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Sept. 5, 2018 - Project Camelot

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UPDATES WITH MILES JOHNSTON AND CAROLINE STEPHENS

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	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm very happy to be here today.
	We've had all kinds of craziness go on.
	I guess my website is under attack.
	I don't know if it's because they think we're gonna talk about something so fascinating that they need to attack me or it's my latest releases.
	You never know with them, but whatever.
	So hopefully my webmaster will get that going again shortly.
	Today I have Carolyn Stevens and Miles Johnston with me.
	And they've had some challenges at their end as well, from what I understand.
	Going to bring them on the screen here for you.
	And hi, Miles and Carolyn.
	You guys look great.
	Say hello to everyone.
	Hi everybody across the ponds.
	Exactly.
	It's evening here.
	This is Brexit campaigner and new host for the BASIS project Stepping Stones to Awareness because Caroline you see is the name of Radio Caroline and Radio Caroline was loving awareness.
	I mean I can't call her loving awareness so it's stepping stones to bring Normal, sort of everyday normal type people, not the kind of nut jobs that you and I are, Kerry, but we're conspiracy theorists.
	Here we have Mrs.
	Sensible from Yorkshire, which means she's right, and anybody in Texas who thinks they're right, she's right-er.
	Okay, all right.
	Well, thank you, Miles, for introducing your partner there in crime, so to speak.
	By the way, she's got a beautiful tan.
	She really is beautifully tanned.
	You wouldn't think so with this bright light.
	Just return from Italy.
	All right.
	And yes, we're going to get into that.
	I do want to get into that.
	So just briefly want to say just one second here that for those that aren't familiar, Miles Johnston has his own channel and is a former BBC journalist, broadcaster, and he has gone on his own for many, many years and is really well known.
	For 30, 20 years?
	20, 22.
	Okay.
	And because Miles and I do the same kind of a job, he's ready to sort of take it away right here.
	So I'm going to let you go ahead, Miles, and give yourself a brief introduction.
	And Caroline, I'd like you to also introduce yourself with some background.
	Just for people that haven't seen you guys before on my channel, and it's lovely to have both of you here.
	So, Miles, you first.
	Very short...
	Well, very briefly, I'm from Northern Ireland, and I had a UFO group there way back in the 70s, so I've been in the business of UFO stuff for years.
	I built the biggest pirate stations broadcast.
	I think there was one in Italy which managed to transmit from Italy through Austria to Germany, but we put a huge...
	It's a pirate station called Kiss FM on the Irish border way back in 1988.
	And we noticed a number of other things happening.
	We followed it up with another one called Energy 106.
	And the guy running up where we ran it, there was strange goings on.
	In fact, you were there last year, of course, Patrick's chairing well.
	So we have a situation very quickly where the pirate situation in England, the British Isles, the only way you've got independent broadcasting was to go on the air without a license.
	And Radio Caroline, that the lovely Caroline here is actually named after, the only way we got pop music like seven days a week was for an Irish team of publishers run by Ronan O'Reilly to go and take a ship into the Into the Irish Sea and the English Channel and actually go on and do it from offshore.
	So that should indicate the control aspects of what's really going on with what's happening with society and what the BBC is really all about.
	And I was in there for five years.
	So I mean, I've been in both sides of the camera.
	I've also had a number of documentaries made since I left Sky, even at Sky.
	And at the moment, we're planning a sort of a project to hopefully take bases onto a different level.
	In the last six months, there's been a huge, eight months, nine months, there's been a huge attack on a lot of people in our position.
	Peter Padgett being the most recent one, I'm currently under severe attack.
	That's right.
	Yes.
	Wait one second.
	Miles, wait one second.
	Yeah, just briefly to give some time to the Peter Padgett story.
	He was run off the road and then Caroline, also we understand, had a recent uh mishap in if you want to call it that uh and we'll get the details here in uh in italy so uh so perhaps uh we should have caroline start off there and then we'll we'll go back to we'll circle back and explain what happened to peter padgett well caroline we met at the alternative u9 conference which is run by a brilliant man called enr
	crane then i discovered that um caroline Has got certain verbal and publicity skills and she's a meek mouse of a woman.
	From Yorkshire.
	From Yorkshire and for anybody outside the world or any other part of the universe the only place on earth which is right is Yorkshire and don't argue about it.
	That's God's own country by the way.
	God built Yorkshire before anything else happened right and so Here we have the lovely Caroline.
	Hello, the lovely Caroline.
	It's so good to see you.
	Am I going to get a word in edge?
	Well, now, Caroline, the show's yours.
	I'll just be quiet.
	Do you know, Carrie, when I was at school, I was very, very quiet until I got to about 15, 16.
	And then, you know, I looked at the world in a different way.
	And I thought, if I don't open my mouth, I'll never get anywhere in life.
	It hasn't stopped since.
	So basically, as Miles said, we met at the AV9 Alternative View Conference at the beginning of May.
	I mean, that was how many months ago?
	Four months ago?
	It feels like four years ago now.
	And so I've got a Brexit background.
	I was in finance, was in teaching, and then I went into politics and stood for Parliament in 2015.
	Because I just realised that the EU was a bad place for the great British people.
	And so, since that moment of joining a political party, standing for Parliament, then I worked for a couple of the Leave groups that I travelled around the country, 24-7 it felt like, working with the British people to secure the Leave votes on the 23rd of June 2016.
	So from my perspective, I've been watching the government.
	We've had David Cameron, who was the Prime Minister at that point, replaced by Theresa May.
	And I just thought, oh dear, nothing's going to happen.
	Sorry, I'm going to break in here for you.
	You know, our audience is going to be well familiar with that background, so we want to kind of skip ahead a little.
	What I want you to do is talk about what happened to you in Italy, if you don't mind, because I understand that there was some kind of an accident.
	You were on vacation with your family.
	You've been a very vocal campaigner for Brexit.
	Well, I think just before you start on that, You were told you've got to take self-defense classes.
	Yeah.
	She was warned that she's got to take self-defense classes and how those people find out that you needed self-defense classes so they would tell you that is a whole different story.
	So you physically need to defend herself from attack.
	So the word seems to be out on the street to get Caroline.
	But, you know, we literally parked up for less than half an hour on the way back to the airport.
	We had all our luggage secure, hidden in the boot for half an hour.
	That was the only time we left our luggage unattended.
	And in that half an hour, we basically got broken into Straight through the back seats, pulled down, luggage out.
	Car alarm would have been going off, and away they went.
	Of course, we had our mobile phones on our person, so they wouldn't be able to track us wherever we were.
	So yeah, it was a solitary tale.
	Came back and was picked up at the airport to get back to our secured car parking.
	And of course, the driver said, well, where's your luggage?
	And we explained what happened.
	And he was just saying how crime was now so rife in London, the police are out there every week.
	So whether we were targeted, I don't know.
	But it was, you know, as a mathematician, the probability of it happening in half an hour at one o'clock in the afternoon in an open air car park, With people wandering around, it is a little bit strange.
	Okay, let me ask you, what airport, wasn't this in Italy where this happened?
	Yeah, it was a shopping center within about 10-12 miles from Rome Airport.
	Okay, so you weren't actually at the airport when the break-in occurred.
	This is very interesting because, you know, many years ago we went to interview Lucas Gantamberlo who was Talking to a journalist called Cristofaro Babato about Planet X, and he was in touch with an escapee supposedly from the SIS. The Secret Service of the Vatican and supposedly was given a videotape of Planet X. So our car was parked at the Milan airport in Italy,
	where again, the same thing, it's guarded, gates are locked, you know, there are people everywhere and our car was broken into and the lock broken in the door and so on and so forth.
	This has a precedent, what happened to you.
	It is interesting.
	The Italian police seem to be rivaling the mafia and perhaps they're under orders from the mafia or whatever because this kind of thing happened to us as well.
	They didn't do our luggage.
	They just rifled through the car thinking we'd been given this videotape, I suppose.
	Oh, wow.
	Well, of course, Kerry, you might say that sort of thing, but of course, I couldn't possibly agree with that kind of dreadful slur on the...
	Right.
	The thing you want to mention, though, was that there was a car you'd seen that was watching you.
	And we sort of got some feedback that they were followed the whole holiday and as soon as it was opportune they got what they wanted.
	Did it just give you a lot of trouble?
	Oh it was weird.
	I mean there was a black car parked at a slight angle next to us and that car had gone within that space of half an hour.
	So they would have used that car as a shield.
	Right.
	So no one was hurt, in other words.
	You're saying it happened when you were away from your car.
	Did they take your luggage or did they just rifle through it?
	They took the whole lot, yeah.
	I mean, you're talking about the entire luggage for 16-day holiday for four people.
	Wow.
	Okay, so they took it all, meaning that, you know, that actually, I have to say, I'm not even sure that that was an Italian operation.
	Sounds a bit British, you know.
	Yes, exactly.
	That's exactly my point.
	Yeah, very interesting.
	I was going to, if you were a guy called, at the same sort of time, I was recommending a guy for Caroline to interview because he's done this for years.
	A wonderful gentleman called Dave Starbuck, who did these things on cassette tape called Revelation Tapes, which in his later years ended up on CD. He was the first person to interview people like James Kasbold, He interviewed a gentleman called Dean Warwick,
	Gene Warwick I think it was, and he was a New Zealand army veteran from the 70s and while he was in the army in the UK, the allied army, they were given demonstration by the Russians Of how the Russians had an acoustic or an energy wave system to completely destroy a large block of flats.
	He just sort of switched this thing on in front of these observers and the whole thing collapsed.
	And he was able to give that interview to Dave Starbuck.
	And ten days later he was at the probe conference in St.
	Anselm C, which I was due to speak at in another ten days.
	And on that stage in the YMCA in St.
	Ames-on-Sea, which is on the west coast of England, just near Blackpool, he got up on stage for about 90 seconds into his presentation.
	He simply gasped and collapsed and died.
	He did mention nervously in the lift before he went to the organizers that he was under a target.
	So that's the kind of person that Dave Starbuck would be interviewing and things.
	So he's 83 now and he's retired.
	But the whole point about stepping stones for awareness is so that ordinary people can get some kind of basic information as to what's going on in the background.
	So Dave Starbuck would have been a really good guy to sort of explain that to her from a perspective of the longevity.
	Conspiracy and what's really going on behind the scenes, long before you and I ever came on the scene.
	Right.
	We're talking about 40 years.
	Yeah, okay, Miles, when was this that the man died?
	That's a heart attack weapon, by the way, for the viewers, which, of course, they're familiar with.
	This is about seven or eight years ago.
	Right.
	Okay, well, we were all around.
	We were around then.
	You were around then.
	No, but Dave Starbuck has been doing this for like 40 years.
	He reported his early things on a dictaphone.
	And held it up to the phone, and we'd phone people like that.
	It was very, very simple, but he has a huge library.
	But essentially, he was going to be interviewed by Caroline, and Caroline's a new kid on the block.
	She's just started, so no possible threat there.
	Yet this individual was visited physically by the old school, the boys' network.
	And when was this?
	Was this before Caroline's car was broken into?
	Quite the same time.
	Right.
	So this is also in between when Peter Padgett was run off the road.
	Peter Padgett had a black BMW and a white BMW. One went round counter to the other so they could basically Take him in the middle.
	He was able to maneuver his car, so they, I think, hit each other.
	And he got away.
	Which is brilliant.
	Peter has to be, you know, for those who you should watch my interviews with Peter Padgett, but that's quite a sophisticated maneuver for someone who's under attack to be able to do so quickly to save themselves.
	That's quite astonishing that he managed that.
	But now he has gone to ground, more or less.
	He was told that that was an official hit.
	Yes.
	And they were out to get him.
	And he claims it's because he spoke at my Awake and Aware conference.
	That's what he claims.
	Well, we were all under threat at that conference.
	Yes.
	And it seems unconnected that we should be all under threat.
	Certain individuals have made public threats to shoot me.
	But I don't believe that's a serious threat from that individual, but it could be from others, because I've had about five attempts on me in the last 18 months.
	But the thing is that, likewise, what happened after that BMW incident, Peter seems to have received what's called a deflected hit.
	In other words, it's some kind of energetic targeting, which he was able to deflect from himself, but it hit close relatives his personal family and at that point he's completely pulled out.
	Now what's happened with myself in the last week bank holiday Monday night that's literally eight days ago there was a major car accident here in Devizes involving four young people the two young men The bank holiday Monday and Monday night means the end of the summer.
	A lot of people are happy.
	There's a fair in town in Carnival.
	It's very happy.
	So it turns out that two girls were in the car at the back.
	One died on the scene because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt.
	The two boys in the front who were arguing furiously with each other over something.
	One had drunk on and one was drugged.
	I think one of them was drunk.
	But they ended up driving down a road which is notorious because there's a hard left hand right angle, there's a hard 90 degree turn to take a bridge.
	And there have been accidents where people go straight through the wall and then onto this canal system which is one of the longest lock races in Europe.
	It's about 12 locks going down a hill.
	So there's quite a deep bit of water there and their car went over the that landed on the other side the girl died instantly but that girl is actually connected very closely to a friend of mine in my local pub here the sister of his daughter and that's a very close hit on that side but also the other girl I worked with I actually physically worked with her in the company I'm working
	for under contract at the moment so she she has received a broken back Oh no!
	And she's in hospital.
	Now the thing about the broken back problem is that one of the key people I mentioned about the James Kasbold story that I think I mentioned this at the conference this guy with this creature in his back that mirrors another colleague of mine who's also now very quite ill with a serious back problem but may need an operation and then this girl breaks her back so I discussed this with the grid keeper And he agreed it wasn't a coincidence.
	So that accident could also be a deflected hit on me again.
	But I don't like bringing this directly to myself.
	But also, as I find out doing some research, my sister terminated herself earlier this year.
	And it's interesting that I found an email dated November where an Israeli source says, take your watch out for your sister.
	So in November last year, I had somebody in Israel said, oh, Miles, do take care of your sister.
	My sister was going through a bit of a rough time.
	But it's nice of somebody in Israel to be kind and nurturing that my sister's health might be at risk.
	And then three months later, she's dead.
	Okay, it's a very serious series of attacks.
	Let me also say that...
	We are not the only ones.
	Certain other people that were speaking at my conference were under attack as well.
	Simon Parks, for one.
	And others, I'm not sure.
	I think Tony Topping was having a hard time.
	Yes, he was.
	And maybe even, you know, we had some very important things said at a conference.
	But you know what's strange is that Peter Padgett has been out on the circuit talking now for a while.
	I don't know if this is payback for other conferences he spoke at.
	No, he hasn't actually been talking for a while.
	Peter Padgett Was speaking at the UFO Congress way back in the early 90s.
	And he was speaking about his book, The Welsh Triangle, which was basically pulled by the M.O.D. He's only come back on the circuit in the last, I think, two years when he spoke for the first time really in any kind of public way at the 50th anniversary of the Warminster thing.
	Warminster, which is a Again, a location of some ancient hills, but it's also the location of one of Wiltshire's secret military bases.
	And there was a huge amount of UFO activity there in the 1960s.
	And there's UFO activity there to this day.
	I mean, witnesses called me quite recently about seeing all sorts of lights and objects flying around there.
	So he was actually in charge of that operation until about the early 1970s.
	When he then moved on to other things so he was called back to give that to give a major presentation at that conference and that ended up as a basis I was basically told Miles do drop by you've got a free ticket do bring your cameras and I says oh I'm not going to bring my cameras I'm not going to do this for nothing and then I realized oh bloody hell I should have had me so we did we did four hours there with with uh Peter and Peter I really did regard as this is the first time the British I've technically disclosed major UFO events
	with major NATO bases, and the whole thing's real.
	Well, yes, you know, there's a lot of confusion about Peter's background and a lot of disinfo out there, so let me make that clear, because we've got people in the chat that are chatting about a supposed welfare fraud, which will not be...
	This was in the Daily Mail, and he gave a...
	An adequate explanation for that, twice at my conference, I think he said at your conference, but one year he said that basically Peter has got MS, he was abroad, living abroad for quite some time, and they changed the benefits rules while he was away.
	He was holed up on about 15 charges, all of which he was able to dismiss.
	And then at the last minute, an extra charge was put in, which stuck And technically he was found guilty of deception, fraud, benefit fraud.
	That was published by the Daily Mail and that's a typical way of blackening the name.
	Now, Matthew Williams made a big issue of this.
	Matthew Williams is a colleague of mine.
	He's a circle maker, a former circle maker.
	He's actually been prosecuted for making crop circles, so he's officially a circle maker, and he can only make crop circles when the permission is there and the cameras and all that.
	And he's a well insider.
	Now, it turns out there was a major exchange of extremely hostile emails between Matthew Williams and Peter Padgett, and a lot of them came through my desk, so I was included in the loop.
	It turns out then, as things got a bit nasty in that little exchange, Peter Padgett then said that he was Matthew Williams' case officer.
	So Matthew Williams' boss up the tree was Peter Padgett.
	And Matthew Williams was being deliberately portrayed as the person nobody would ever go near because he's obviously a rebel.
	Like myself, Matthew Williams was creatively fired from the tax office in Wales.
	He was a good man at the computers and he was set up where he was asked to do something technical on the computer system.
	I think it was like create an icon on a sub-program involving some kind of easier way to do something, which he did quite easily.
	He was then found to Having a violation of certain regulations that he should not have done that and it was forbidden, which basically was used to get him fired from the tax office.
	So that got Matthew chucked out of the office and basically launched into the sort of scurrilous world of crop circles and people you shouldn't be seeing on the street with, that kind of a thing.
	Which would set up a story.
	Well, okay, but to get back, I mean, just because people won't necessarily follow that whole trail.
	It means that to finish that off, Peter Padgett made a claim that he stopped the termination of Matthew Williams.
	So Matthew Williams was slated for termination.
	Okay.
	And Padgett is saying he stopped it.
	So There's an argument, essentially now identifying Matthew Williams as an agent within the crop server community.
	God forbid, watch that.
	And that's never happened before, people being accused of being part of a government agency in this type of thing.
	But in other words, that's a pretty raw nerve between both of them.
	I understand, but Peter Padgett...
	I'm not supporting Peter, I'm just saying there's dirt both ways.
	There is, perhaps, but the crux of it is also that Peter Padgett has written a book all about his time working for Her Majesty's government as a spy.
	And so these charges against him are actually attacks that To discredit him, which are purposeful, and they hold no truth.
	Now, that's important for the viewers to kind of get the gist of what's really going on.
	In other words, it's the agency doing it dirty on people, and they do that.
	In the same way that Michael Shrimpton has been completely hauled out to dry.
	He was here, did a show with...
	With Caroline in the last couple of days.
	And, you know, he held us on.
	Well, now, do I get a word in edgeways that much?
	Yeah, you can now talk.
	So basically we had Michael Shrimpton.
	I think you were part of the email circuit, Kerry.
	We'd had Michael on at the beginning of August.
	Had a good show, very interesting, very witty.
	And for anybody at home who doesn't know who Michael Shrimpton is, he was a qualified barrister.
	He writes for Veterans Today.
	He writes for UKIP, although he appears to be a strong, staunch Tory, friend of Jacob Rees-Mogg.
	And he's written his book called, was it Spy Hunter?
	Spy Hunter.
	So I did two interviews back-to-back with him on Sunday.
	I asked him some questions, normal questions, about trading and leaving the EU. Will we leave?
	And then the second interview was me producing some evidence about EU military unification and the trade deals that the government is doing behind closed doors.
	And it was quite a revelation.
	So for anybody at home, it was only a 30 minute interview.
	And just to show that basically I don't trust the government.
	Brexiteers don't trust the government.
	And producing evidence to strongly suggest that we are not leaving.
	We're going to have, well, they say it's about Brexit in name only.
	But for many people now, we're talking about closer integration with the EU. So what's happening in the UK now that I've been back from Italy?
	You know, all the Bruxiteers, the protesters are basically taking to the streets.
	We had a little demonstration in London last Friday over a lady Who's been incarcerated called Melanie Shaw.
	This was my t-shirt.
	I don't know if everybody can see that.
	Free Melanie Shaw.
	Right.
	Yes, we can see that.
	Okay.
	And this was a girl who was living in a children's home.
	Have you worn this t-shirt?
	Yes, I have.
	I want to hold it.
	So basically, this girl, she was living in a children's home, having been abused by her family, then abused at a children's home.
	She was aware of Paedophilia links with judges and with the MPs.
	And so she had a file of evidence and she has herself been incarcerated in prison.
	She was due to be released on the 2nd of June of this year.
	And now she faces charges again of allegations of arson.
	So you just have to ask yourself, this is the British system today.
	I'm sure a lot of you viewers will think we have the best judicial system in the world.
	But when you are a whistleblower, you know, Kerry, that all the rules are thrown out the window and basically you can be incarcerated.
	I mean, Tommy Robinson came.
	It was very prominent, I'm sure, worldwide.
	And yeah, Melanie Shaw hasn't got that following, but, you know, she is incarcerated.
	The thing about Tommy Robinson, I've had this discussion with Caroline.
	Tommy Romance is another one of these high-profile people that people put a lot of energy in.
	And it doesn't matter whether you've broken a window at the local supermarket or whether you've stolen the crime jewels.
	The initial crime is really irrelevant.
	It's just something designed to get you into the police station.
	And I'm very close to that situation myself at the moment.
	What he then did, he did contempt of court.
	And once you do contempt report, it doesn't matter what you've done, you've insulted the basic structure of the law, and he was maneuvered into that.
	It's a no-win situation.
	He's screwed.
	And he's a complete waste of time on this now.
	But the difference between him and Melanie Shaw is there is a report, an inquiry going ahead in October.
	And if she remains in prison, she won't be able to give evidence at that inquiry.
	Yeah, but what is the evidence about?
	Well, the other thing that's just been released, I don't know if you've seen it, you must have seen it, but the previous Home Secretary and the Prime Minister have both officially, I understand both officially, covered up massive paedophilia and satanic ritual abuse killings for reasons of national security.
	Very good, yes.
	Well, let's get straight on what is this charge against Melanie Shaw anyway.
	Well, she did set fire to somebody's garden shed.
	Yeah, but that's where she was incarcerated before.
	But she was due to be released on the 2nd of June, and they had a couple of charges of her having committed arson in prison, which is quite interesting because She's been living in solitary confinement for much of her time.
	She's been transferred from prison to prison.
	So it's been very hard for people to actually get to see her.
	And sometimes, you know, people will send presents to her and sometimes she doesn't get them.
	So she has been treated abysmally and she's had conditions worse than perhaps Third world countries, to be honest.
	Okay, so the crux of the matter here is that she is reporting in her own life abuses, I don't know, pedophilia, she was a child, so on.
	And then also she is now reporting the pedophilia in the upper levels of the British government.
	Is this the gist of it?
	And I don't understand where the arson comes in, if you don't mind.
	Because she set fire to her prison cell.
	Okay.
	When she's living in solitary confinement, how did she get matches three times?
	Well, that sounds impossible.
	But the original charge, why would she set fire to someone's shed?
	That seems an odd thing to do.
	Well, I mean, the thing is...
	It's difficult to get a definitive answer to that sort of question because relating to the children's home, the abuse survivors were given £5,000, as little as £5,000 each as compensation.
	And so there's question marks over money.
	She didn't accept any money herself.
	But now even we're getting trolled on the Basis Project because I've done some shows relating to Melanie Shaw.
	And obviously I was at the protest on Friday.
	And now we're getting vindictive people coming on and sort of Speaking is ill of us.
	And then we do the investigations and they're connected with trolls who want to see Melanie Shaw stay in prison.
	Right, obviously there's a vested interest in not allowing her testimony.
	Why is she in a position to know who in the British upper level?
	Was she part of those pedophilia rings as a victim?
	What is her access?
	She's actually very intelligent and she has a photographic memory and she had a memory of the number plates when the MPs and judges turned up at the children's home.
	Now the police did do a minor investigation apparently but then very shortly after that brief investigation they closed the children's home and raised the building to the ground and I believe now houses are built on it.
	So it's really quite difficult, actually, keeping track of all the misdemeanors, if you like, of our parliament, because whilst we've got that bubbling up in one corner, we've got, I mean, when I was interviewing Michael Shrimpton on Sunday, I said, look, we when I was interviewing Michael Shrimpton on Sunday, I said, look, we are in I said, look, we are not leaving the European Union.
	How come the civil service are in part of one of their exit agreements signing us up totally to the permanent structured cooperation, which is basically full integration into the EU military?
	And no, he said, no, no, it's not happening.
	And what happens the day after I do that interview is pictures on the Internet of our British troops visiting Bosnia with an EU flag on their arms.
	And this is now, you know, I launched the PescoGate campaign, the military integration campaign, to be against it with people like Carol Hellyer and Dave Ellis of Strategic Defence Initiatives.
	We started that off last October when we could see the writing on the wall that most of the other EU countries were basically signing to integrate, basically throw their military in, budgets in, and You know, we are there or thereabouts now, you know, to actually have an EU flag on the arm.
	That doesn't really sound as if we're leaving, does it, Kerry?
	No, extraordinary.
	Well, there's also rumblings of, I guess, articles recently that were in, I think might have been The Telegraph, talking about supposed individuals who've now changed their mind about leaving Europe.
	The EU in populations.
	Now, how they did that survey and whether the survey is even accurate, I don't know.
	But it was something like 2 or 3 million.
	And then I asked, well, what's the population of Britain?
	And it's more like 70 million, if that's accurate, if I understand.
	So that's not such a large portion, even if it were true.
	But it looks like the writing's on the wall.
	You're playing a double game for all They were shocked by the level of actual voting on the Leave It campaign.
	The British public are quite surprised that 20 to 25% of the votes are actually postal votes.
	At one time we could vote using a postal system and not turn up to a polling station.
	Only if you were ill, you were away.
	There had to be really good reasons why you could use the postal vote system.
	But over the years, that number has increased to 20 to 25% of the vote.
	So I was a counting agent on the referendum day, and I'd see the people on the run-up, because the postal votes come back up to the date of the referendum.
	They go out a couple of weeks beforehand.
	And we go in every day and see them opening the envelopes.
	But you don't actually see how those people have voted.
	So it's literally, you just, you just verify they've opened envelopes.
	So that's not, there's a big question mark over the actual numbers that really did vote to leave in the first place.
	We think it's so much larger.
	In Ireland, we have, in Northern Ireland we have an expression called a vote Vote early and vote often because you normally have three or four identities and you can vote about four or five times in the day.
	A lot of them, whatever, which is a bit of a joke.
	It used to happen in the old days.
	But what they did with the EU, well, the major EU referendums in Ireland was they said no.
	So they kept having reruns of the referendum until people said yes.
	And then the last one, there were Voting boxes followed and they were kept in vehicles rather than going straight back to the polling stations or the counting stations overnight and just abused.
	So I don't want to name too many names but the bottom line is that the proper procedures were not followed for the final referendum which of course then finally voted for Ireland to leave or stay or whatever the vote was.
	And so that's what they do.
	Again, about the Brexit thing.
	Michael Strington was basically saying the technical Article 50 or whatever it is has been operated.
	We will leave in March or whatever it is.
	That's happening.
	It's a legal thing.
	There's nothing they can do about it.
	And it's happening.
	That's his position.
	But everybody I've been talking to said that there was no way they will ever let Britain leave the EU. So whatever is going to happen, come hell or high water, Whatever gerrymandering is going to happen, this country is going to be stopped from its democratic voice and we're going to be stuck in what the EU is.
	And as Michael has pointed out in his book, the whole European Union was actually planned for post-war continued German domination as an empire Over this part of the world.
	So, whilst the German people were bombed to hell, and eight million plus were massacred after the war, and there was a huge genocide of German people, as it were, millions across Europe, and this country bombed as well.
	The actual people don't really matter.
	Those in charge are simply going to maintain governance and control.
	Britain will not be leaving the EU. They'll be punished for daring not to.
	And the British forces will join a European sector army because we're being reorganised into different population subgroups here, which means they will probably allow a certain amount of regional so-called separation and independence in the British Isles.
	My contacts in Northern Ireland are saying that there's already a hard border In terms of the reality, one of the points about the whole British Isles thing is Britain leaving the EU, is that the border with Northern Ireland, which is in the United Kingdom, and the Irish Republic, which is staying in the EU, has to be a hard border to check goods and services, so that Northern Ireland isn't then used as a soft route for smuggling into Great Britain.
	Great Britain is the land mass of England, Scotland and Wales, So Northern Ireland and the government there, run by the Democratic Unionist Party, has got the May government, has control of the May government because they're keeping May in power because May is running effectively a minority government.
	So the Ulster Unionists have got control, they think, of the British government and they'll do whatever they say because if you don't do that, I mean, Northern Ireland has already been bought off with a billion pounds to sort of pay them to say whatever Westminster says.
	But what the Ulster Unionists don't understand is that they're just being told what they want to hear.
	There's a hard border de facto on all the important sources like food and all sorts of other things in Scotland, the way that the goods and services are checked when they land in Scotland.
	In fact, Northern Ireland is essentially already zoned as a united Ireland in terms of the EU. So what will probably happen is there will be a southeastern region in England.
	Already the sub-state of London and the city of London is effectively a sub-state And so the regions of England outside that are going to be poisoned with fracking and all sorts of things.
	So there will only be a number of smaller zones within Great Britain which will be habitable.
	But Kerry, can I just interrupt?
	Because basically Britain, for years now, part of the plan has been to split up the UK into 12 regions.
	So that would fit and that's why they've been pushing for the northern powerhouse and having all these mayoral systems and there is the possibility of us being still answering directly.
	These areas will answer eventually directly to Brussels.
	So will there be a parliament in the future?
	So time is running out.
	I mean this article 50 is totally unconstitutional anyway.
	The government could have actually just repealed, annulled The European Communities Act, which took us in in the first place, 1972.
	And it wouldn't have caused any problems whatsoever.
	So what they did was trigger Article 50 at the latest possible time.
	And you just knew that we weren't going to leave.
	So then they're talking about transition periods where they're extending the deadline for coming out.
	Now it could be indefinite.
	Let me ask you both this.
	It seems to me as though, I was told from a whistleblower back channel a while during the whole leave Brexit thing, leave the European Union, that the City of London had no intentions of leaving.
	That as a matter of fact, they were staying and they were planning to have the rest of The British Isles leave or appear to leave for a period of time.
	Now, I think you need to look back, like, take a step back into the bigger picture of the world scene and see what is...
	This is a, you know, because a lot of this is for, you know, what you'd say is the public consumption.
	In other words, it's kind of a dog and pony show that doesn't really have any real...
	Sort of bite to it because it's really just drama on the streets.
	But what's really going on is what's going on with the dark magicians and what we call the Illuminati who are led by the dark magicians.
	This gets into, you know, the European dark magicians, okay?
	And it also gets into some interesting area having to do with the relationship behind the scenes with the secret space program and Britain, Russia, and this alliance with the US, you know, and Australia, and I think they call it the Five Eyes, whatever it is.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So there's a dance going on, I guess, in what I'm saying.
	And we do know this alternative three, whatever you want to call it, alternative whatever, that has to do with, at the moment, actually turning the land in the United States back into sort of a natural zone where people are gone from it.
	And then we've got a lot of evidence coming forward of a planned Triggering of the Yellowstone volcano to basically make a good portion of the United States uninhabitable.
	I mean, there are plans afoot that I think the Brexit thing plays into.
	Please reply to that.
	Talking about dark magicians, Tim Reefat, the timelines have been changed.
	There were five timelines of which four the Rothschilds would win.
	We're now on the fourth timeline, which is why a lot of people who said they predicted things and all that.
	That's a lot of things that just changed in the last eight weeks.
	What's now predicted or set in stone is the Rothschilds are going to be wiped out within 10 years.
	That stage is now in progress.
	The Rothschilds and the power elite have been gating dark matter souls, soul energetics, into what we call Western Europe for a very long time to the extent that 80% of human soul energetics are dark matter souls, even down to blades of grass, animals, the lot.
	In order to rebalance that, all of that has to be reset So the Canary Islands, volcanic islands, and these islands are effectively, the way these volcano islands work is that the lava keeps coming down, hits the sea, and basically stops.
	So basically, these are like big mushrooms.
	And the same scenario is predicted for Hawaii.
	But basically, what's now going to happen is you've got your Yellowstone, that's Central America, Central North America, The main threat is in the Atlantic of the Canary Islands.
	When this island is destabilized, the tsunami will wipe out everything on the Eastern seaboard of the United States.
	It will wipe out everything on the Western European seaboard.
	And as far as this company's concerned, we're talking about a 25 to 30 meter wave coming up the Atlantic Ocean to hit the British Isles on the Southwest Now, where we are here,
	there's a thing called the Bristol Boar, where basically when the tide comes in, just the ordinary high tide, when it comes in down the River Severn, the Bristol Channel, that rises up to a fast-moving mini tsunami every time the tide comes in.
	And people surf up and they do all sorts of things.
	That's just a slight rise in the tide.
	So if you've got a 100-foot wave coming down the same amount of water, and you've got a 100-foot wave entering into the English Channel, but you're talking about 100 feet rising to about 300 feet.
	Now, where we're sitting right now, we'll probably get our feet wet.
	But in terms of the British Isles and the low countries in Europe, you're talking total wipeout.
	So, London, all of that is gone and that is going to happen within the next 10 years to basically reset the toxic solar energetics of Western Europe.
	Basically, Western Europe is going to be wiped out.
	So, in order to maintain the balance, the Chinese are now going to take control.
	The number of predictions in terms of continental United States is I heard the minimum was going to be a 70% wipeout, approaching 100%.
	Okay?
	But it is interesting, though, because you mentioned the Ross Childs.
	But the point is about your black magicians that you mentioned, the keys to the reality of existence are now held by Tim Riefeld.
	Well, I have to disagree with that.
	You have to disagree with that.
	I appreciate his ego involvement here, but, you know, I think he has to...
	Terry, can I say something?
	I can't tell you how many people...
	So basically, you've got MPs in Parliament that are basically there just for power and influence, They've got their investments with the Rothschilds.
	So if there is going to be serious impact, I would be seriously worried about some of those MPs.
	I mean, we have got a system which does not work for the British people.
	And I know this has been happening for years and years and years, but it has come to the stage where you've now got the law courts presiding over our parliament and saying the parliament is sovereign as opposed to the people.
	That's completely wrong.
	This is huge conflict here.
	The latest judgements now are that it's corporate law, corporacy.
	This is a corporate state.
	The laws of the corporation override sovereign parliaments, governments, everything.
	Well, this has been going on.
	This is worldwide.
	Countries are an illusion.
	I'm sorry, you know, with all due respect.
	Countries are actually and borders are an illusion as far as if you're on the upper levels of the ruling class, whatever you want to call that.
	The Luminati, for lack of a better word for them, but there are a lot of worse words you could use.
	So you know what I'm saying?
	In other words, there's one thing to look from feet on the ground.
	It's a completely different picture.
	When you're looking from, you know, a higher level, if you want to call it high, you know, another vantage point which has to do with the dark magicians, as we're saying, but also, you know, with all due respect to Rifat, he doesn't have that kind of control.
	I don't care how high a magician he is.
	And I can't tell you how many people come to Camelot and tell me they're running the show.
	So, you know, everyone has their own point of view on this.
	Humans, for some reason, have a proclivity To be really, especially male humans, to take over, have their ego completely take them over and lose all perspective.
	But we have some unseen beings.
	Didn't women used to rule the earth anyway, Kerry?
	I think we should never return to those days.
	In fact, actually talking about who is the most powerful...
	You know, I mean, you probably have some people watching who believe in the Creator.
	And we've got, I don't know if you've ever heard of a guy called David Hathaway.
	He's the son of a British minister.
	And he was a guy who used to smuggle the Bibles into the Ukraine for years and years.
	Because Ukraine, if you remember, was a very communist country.
	So a habit of possessing a Bible was a heinous crime.
	So he smuggled them in and he did that for about seven years successfully.
	And then he got caught and he was put in prison for ten years, solitary confinement.
	So he basically prayed and within a year Harold Wilson, the MP, the Prime Minister in fact of the time, he actually flew in and took David Hathaway home.
	So now he's been arranging last September, this March and this very Saturday National prayer days in the UK. We got a letter from him a few days ago and he basically says we've got two months to save Great Britain.
	I don't know if any of you viewers have ever heard of him but he wrote this book called The Rape of Europe and it's about the formation of the EU. Okay, well, we know that this was a plan that Hitler was involved in, was the creation of the EU. That's the whole point.
	In reality...
	We're still under a war situation.
	Yeah, I mean...
	Where do we get this from?
	We get this from office at eurovision.org.uk.
	All right.
	Michael Shrimpton is, you know, very aware and put a lot of details, a lot of actually background into the story of how the British, I mean, the German Secret Intelligence Service, the DVD, as he calls it, that came from basically the The time of the Abwehr back in Germany.
	And of course we know about the paperclip scientists that infiltrated NASA and took over our secret space program which is still being run by them.
	They also took over our health service here.
	Right.
	So I mean there is a German overlay to a lot of what goes on.
	Of course the things in Antarctica are notorious.
	We have You know, leaders going down there to have secret meetings with certain beings, etc.
	So there's a much bigger story here that we obviously can't cover everything here in this very fascinating talk of ours here.
	But what I'd like to do is talk a little bit more about the future of Britain.
	What are you hearing, aside from this sort of whether you're in Brexit or out of Brexit, In other words, the immigration into Britain has been massive.
	And so you've got a whole change in the population.
	You've got a lot of, I don't know what you call white Anglo-Saxons, almost an evacuation going on.
	This is going on in Europe as well.
	And, you know, because this changes the complex of the countries themselves.
	The customs, etc., and what's going on.
	It does look like some of our key people are leaving the planet in preparation for something that's, in other words, you're talking about Britain, we're talking about the United States.
	Yeah, what would you say about all that?
	Both of you, one after the other.
	What's happening is the Russians have gone about 40 years ahead of us in terms of certain technologies, and there is another World that people are going to.
	There's something I noticed with a couple of individuals who I don't want to mention, that they seem to not live here anymore.
	And there are gateways to this other world.
	And this world is essentially being abandoned.
	As I say, the Russians are well ahead on that.
	Well, you've got to keep in mind, Miles, there's the surface story and there's the secret space program story.
	This isn't a physical world in the 3D of what we know.
	I think it's some kind of a physical domain in a different matrix construct.
	Well, you may be talking about parallel Earth.
	Yeah, but I don't want to use those sort of words, but there's something going on in that regard that As in Alternative 3, the symbology of people just leaving, you know, cars abandoned at airports.
	This is something I noticed a lot when I used to work near Sky Television.
	There would be people, I noticed there were cars abandoned, but they were abandoned in a particular way that there were stuff in it that they would have been needing.
	They would have been using it.
	There was stuff that they were expecting to come back to.
	And I mean I'm talking maybe half a dozen cars, two or three cars and just a couple of streets I would walk along almost every two or three days and then eventually they'll be moved and taken away.
	These were good cars but just there's a lot of abandoned cars.
	Can I give a perspective of perhaps The 3D reality that I see.
	If you've been following the mainstream media news, you'd be thinking Is Britain going to leave without a deal, deal or no deal?
	That's been on the news all the time.
	Will we be able to do trade with other countries whilst we're being held to ransom by the EU? But this has all been, you know, you were saying about the black magicians and the person you spoke to about what's really happening behind the curtains.
	And you see, after the referendum, what actually happened was, do you remember the T-tip?
	Say no to TTIP and that was a trade deal that was being with your country and the EU. TTIP was America and the EU and basically do you remember people took to the streets in Europe in particular and said we protest we do not want this because this gives undue power to the global corporations but in actual fact what they were doing they were covering Another scenario because they actually were also
	pushing ahead with a deal called the Comprehensive Economic Trade Deal and that was basically with Canada and the EU. So it looked as if the TTIP was going to fall to one side but you probably know Kerry that you've got 42,000 American subsidiaries with a base in Canada.
	So can you see it's gone across the border and that deal Almost an identical deal with the TTIP has happened already, and it all went through in October 2016.
	Now, bearing in mind we voted to leave in June 2016, a sort of sane normal person would start questioning, well, how come that Britain is still part of this Overall deal.
	If we're leaving, surely our government should start planning to leave now.
	And we signed up.
	I could see it going through onto the parliamentary books.
	And you see, what happens in Parliament?
	They just have the legislation placed on the books.
	They keep the books open for something like 21 else, 28 days.
	And then it's shut and away you go.
	And it wasn't actually debated until February of the following year.
	You know, what do we debate in Parliament?
	You'd think we'd be debating the military unification.
	Not really.
	Would you think we were talking about why we're doing a trade deal with the other 27 EU countries?
	So all this Pantomime of, oh, will we leave with no deal?
	No, the deals have already been done.
	Everything is being signed up.
	And I struggle to understand why, before the referendum, all the Brexiteers would say, you know, we talked about the BBC earlier.
	We call it the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation.
	You control your country's media with a set message.
	You're indoctrinating that country.
	And we would say, well, you don't listen to a word that BBC says.
	But now people say, oh yeah, do we leave with a deal or no deal?
	Well, just look at the parliamentary records and understand that these deals are being done.
	And we have Brexit MPs that are pushing ahead, saying we want these trade deals.
	Everybody says, oh yeah, trade deal, trade deal.
	But they're not really doing what the small print's about.
	You know, the global corporations will be able to sue the national governments.
	They will still be able to bring in cheap labour in various clauses.
	And, you know, there's talk about even if we did leave, which we're not, then we'll do the similar deals, pre-trade deals with the Commonwealth.
	So we'll actually have free movement Within all the Commonwealth countries, that's something to look forward to.
	All right, well, let me ask you though, both of you, with all this background that you have in terms of the Brexit and the...
	The machinations going on behind the scenes and then the dog and pony show on the front, you know, for the people.
	What I wonder is going to be the final outcome, because how are they going to really back off of leaving, so-called leaving Brexit while staying in it at the same time?
	How is this going to manifest in the next, I don't know, two years there in Britain, in your opinion?
	The existing Rudy Elite is over and we've got an opportunity in the next couple of years or so to if we wake up to essentially take control of this planet back and stop this whole place going off the rails that's denying the position the the relevant permissions of all the so-called contracts which we've acquiesced to and That is going to need a lot of people
	getting aware very quickly and getting their act together very quickly and doing so without the use of the technology we're using now because the scale of tracking, thought tracking, computer technology is an artificial intelligence.
	Our mutual friend Tim Reefat, which I know you don't take any account of, has accessed the ADA artificial intelligence and their mutual consciousnesses are combined.
	Well, no, don't get me wrong.
	This whole aspect of AI is the element of the room and is the next thing to take over.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I wouldn't say that.
	Wait one second.
	Let me just clarify something here.
	Don't get me wrong with regard to ReFAT.
	Actually, I'm a serious fan of his.
	You know, he's been working for a very long time as a dark magician and actually skirting from the light to the dark and doing magic on both sides of that spectrum.
	So I would say...
	Sorry, I would say that he is, you know, he's a very concerned individual.
	He is working, I believe, to the light for the most part, although I think he does use the dark graphs.
	The interviews that I've done with him are not for our personal consumption.
	He's talking to the Rothschilds on that.
	Well, I'm one magician to another.
	Keep in mind, though, that the Rothschilds are only...
	They're called the shield, the red shield, for a reason.
	They're only the surface.
	I mean, so you've got to go way behind the Rothschilds to get to the real...
	Yeah, if you can see them, then it's not...
	They're not the controllers.
	We can see the Rothschilds.
	That's right.
	We can see those individuals.
	So they're only...
	They're only the levers of control, they're not the actual...
	But Kerry, from my perspective, from an earthly perspective...
	3D. 3D perspective.
	You know, at the moment we've got one of our contacts, a guy called Mark Steele, who's received an injunction from Gateshead City Council because he wants to challenge the council In their rollout of 5G. And I know you're very familiar with 5G. It leads on to mind control.
	It leads to dementia.
	Well, it's a neurological weapon system.
	Dementia, cancer, and death.
	Yes.
	And it's smart weapon systems.
	And so, you know...
	Well, actually, let me let you know, in case you're not aware, and this is a good opportunity to talk about this.
	Actually, I'm having my second interview with...
	Her name is Sister Carrie Burser.
	And she is testifying.
	She's a former nun.
	And she has been testifying involved with the whole pedophilia in the United States and the Vatican and that cause.
	But at the same time, she was targeted with nanotech that she was able to get in touch with certain doctors who actually did tests on her.
	That verified that not only is she a targeted individual at this point, but what she's been targeted with is basically having her entire body She's also tried to get rid of it using certain methods.
	And my interview with her, which just happened actually less than a week ago or maybe exactly a week ago, she's coming on again tonight to continue the discussion.
	Her revelations are really Quite extraordinary, and I urge both of you to watch that interview.
	It's a groundbreaking information.
	I would say very much that Anotech is old tech.
	This is down to Peasotech.
	There is a key link up though with 5G and with the chemtrails and what's happening to all of us.
	5G is not for humans or any living technology.
	5G is only there for the synthetics and the Well, it's going to affect, look, it's a link-up.
	If you look into all of this various tech, and I've got, we're talking quantum, when we get really high level.
	There is another person that we're going to be interviewing very soon, and he's a very, very well-advanced thinker on all this, Dr.
	Graham Downing.
	Dr.
	Graham Downing has spoken at the Alternative View about four to five times on this topic.
	This stuff is targeting the microchondrial DNA in every living cell.
	The licensed frequencies that are being licensed to this country by Ofcom, who was a treacherous traitor in this regard, 60 gigs, 100 gigs.
	This stuff attacks oxygen molecules.
	It attacks anything that's got a lot of water in it, like us or any other living life form.
	This stuff is designed to desertify this planet.
	And there is a fine gentleman who we're trying to get, is it Mr.
	Dave Harvey?
	Yeah, agriculture.
	There's a script writer for the BBC Archer's programme who's written a number of books on this.
	He's been analysing the physical processes of the industrialisation and technologies of agriculture across the planet, which was all installed during World War II. And a lot of the processes involving that were initially It has been highlighted by Cathy Morgan of what happened here in World War II in terms of structures and institutions.
	Yes.
	The basic logical process, this is an ordinary analyst who's a script writer for the Archers, which is essentially a BBC soap opera designed to educate people during World War II how to live and all that.
	Anyway, the point is that the fundamental aspects of the technology in farming is to wipe out All the food baskets on the planet to leach some slowly of all nutrition and that's in progress.
	So whatever's going on is a reduce the oxygen, destroy oxygen, destroy any living tissue which is exposed to this technology and to completely de-life this planet.
	So basically our mission at the moment with the stepping stones is basically to highlight the corruption with the governments because you know this is leading to Agenda 2021, Agenda 2030, you know you've got the likes of GM Foods which really restricts food production and so by highlighting all the corruption you know a lot of our MPs allegedly have shell companies linked to Finchley Road All involved in money
	laundering.
	How can you, how can the British people continue to look up to our MPs?
	They're ruling us.
	How many of them are on the Sex Offenders Register?
	On the Sex Offenders Register.
	They've all got conflicts of interest.
	And you know, this is where we now need, and as Deputy Chairman of Democracy 17-4, we're trying now to bring people together They could be a member of a political party, it doesn't matter, but we want them to work together with other like-minded individuals in each constituency to actually say, you know what, it's not going to be the red team or the blue team anymore that we send to Parliament.
	We're going to send an honest person Who actually cares about the people in their constituency?
	Who doesn't want the rollout of 5G? Who doesn't want the global corporations taking over?
	And the trouble is we've got a situation where all these groups all have egos.
	The people in the top have often got egos and they don't want to let go of what they see as their little empire.
	It's human ego and arrogance and pride And, you know, we've got political parties in this country that are effectively controlled opposition, which is not something we've sort of mentioned tonight, but they're basically put in place to take people down a rabbit hole and not awaken the people.
	So that's the reason why we're doing the stepping stones to awareness for however long we managed to keep on air.
	Well, the truth movement's all been hijacked for that in the first place.
	Well, yes and no.
	I mean, we've still got truth tellers out there.
	The trouble is that most people don't have the whole truth.
	They've got pieces of the truth.
	We do the best we can.
	To bring the truth forward in forums such as this.
	So, and I want to thank both of you for participating in this effort because it's really, you know, it's wonderful to have you on board and you've been a strong trooper for many, many years.
	Miles and Caroline, I'm sure you were As well, I didn't know you back in those days, but I can see your personality.
	You stepped in front of the camera in the last six weeks?
	You know, I was sharing platforms with these MPs a couple of years ago, and I saw all these untruths being shared.
	And that's why I just keep going and going, because there's so much disinformation.
	And as you say, you only have to have somebody who falls short of the truth by 3%.
	And say, you know, you're going up, say if you're in the centre of a circle and you're three degrees out from the truth, say the truth is facing north, by the time you get to the circumference of that circle, the difference, you're taken in a totally different direction, aren't you?
	So this is what we're trying to do, and then at the end of each show we say, and you make up your own mind, you do your own research.
	But it's giving people food for thought and it's basically communicating, educating people who perhaps think the government cares about them.
	In the UK, for all the broadcasting we have and all the TV channels we have, de facto, the BBC is 80 to 90% the only source of news and current affairs information that is available For the wider public.
	There are other channels with tiny audiences.
	Sky News is a tiny audience and it's been so heavily watered down.
	Sky's new logo that they're using has been likened to a sucked dry vulture.
	This vulture has been sucked dry of something.
	So, Sky is a sucked dry ethnicity of what we'd hoped all those years ago, having a news force in broadcasting.
	Independent television has got virtually nothing in terms of any credible news service.
	The only source of news people get in this country is basically We've got one state, we've got a state broadcaster, and that's it with tiny audiences on the outside.
	I have an anecdote along those lines.
	I did an interview with, he's called the boy from Mars, And he resided at the time and still does, I believe, in Russia.
	But this interview, for some reason, the British press decided to suddenly sort of glom onto my interview, not give me credit, take my video, put it online, and all the different newspapers did it simultaneously in Britain.
	It was unbelievable.
	And so then I protested, wrote letters to all of them.
	I had to do a bit of research to find out, you know, who was running what and so on and so forth.
	And what happened was there were a couple that actually kind of gave me a twirl and actually replied saying, oh, no, we didn't know this and that.
	But they basically stole my information.
	They stole the video and so on without making sure not to give me credit.
	And they didn't pay for any of the use in their newspapers and online Either.
	And then after being contacted, they all basically circled the wagons and sent me nothing, no money, no nothing.
	And they all were doing the exact same thing.
	So if you want proof that the British press is in the pocket of someone, and it's just like the United States, they all did it.
	It's almost like they were triggered to do this one thing, and they put that interview out there on all their papers, etc., etc., And then basically it disappeared again.
	But they did nothing in terms of rectifying the fact that they're not supposed to be just stealing somebody's work.
	The BBC did it to TVAM. They don't give a down.
	The BBC took an interview with a particular individual from independent breakfast television company TVAM. They put it straight to air.
	from the line feed from TVAM and they just put their graphic over the TVAM graphic just to cover it and put it straight to air and when everybody complained they said, well, you know.
	But we had a Journalism Foundation organisation in this country and it was set up for journalists to get together and when I talked to the head of that organisation which actually had been a former controller of BBC and the BBC World Service He basically says they won't let you.
	Right.
	So we're hoping to do something different soon, but We'll see if we get...
	I think it's an important point that alternative broadcasters such as ourselves are really the lifeline to the truth for most of the population who have no access to the sources, etc.
	and are getting fed lies in the press across the board.
	The reason why Alex Jones was taken off Was because Alex Jones was de facto financed by the Rothschilds.
	So it's interesting that...
	That's a matter of conjecture.
	I mean, I have to say...
	That's the source I'm talking about.
	But it's interesting the way Google...
	It's working both ways.
	...and the main corporate identities.
	We are depending on them to tell them they're nasty people because they're the corporate controllers.
	So we've got an interesting dilemma here that the only way we can get on air to say anything and be that independent source is to depend on the computer technology which is an AI which is accessing our consciousness and creating a matrix reality based on our perception abilities.
	I think they have to keep the illusion that we have more than one voice, that we're living in this illusion of democracy.
	It's not real.
	You know, that we are completely, they are attempting to control everything, every aspect of our lives.
	Everything right down to the last blade of grass.
	Which is back to 5G again.
	Exactly.
	And the Alex Jones story is an interesting one.
	I do have to say there is a real legitimate gripe that he is talking about false flags and we know that that is terrorism by the state.
	And this is the reason why he was taken down, at least the surface reason.
	And my own channel was the one you're talking to me on at this exact moment, basically got two strikes and was on the verge of the third in which I would be...
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I only just come out of copyright oblivion about six weeks ago.
	Exactly.
	And I know that there are journalists also being targeted on Facebook in similar ways.
	There is a crackdown on free speech in many, many areas.
	There is new legislation coming into this country which will basically make it impossible to say anything.
	I'm going to have to have a compliance officer sitting next to you that you can say yes, you know you can't say that.
	Because we're being hammered in this country now with compliance regulations.
	Sharing information is much more difficult.
	It's going to become much more difficult.
	We're going to have to communicate in ways where, I mean, people are able to communicate in countries, you know, word of mouth, With horses and carts.
	So there's got to be a way of...
	Well, it's going to have to be another version of the dark web that gets created.
	I have a former webmaster who said that, you know, they can set up an internet that is independent of the main one.
	How long it would last, I don't know.
	But I can say that there probably are efforts in this direction.
	As long as you use computer servers and computer network systems, which all are dedicated to send every...
	Network packet to two sources.
	One packet is network packet that is meant to switch to in the first place and a second send of that packet goes to a server for certain agencies who will monitor and data mine everything.
	Keep in mind, though, that there is a level at which they may not wish to cross, which has to do with allowing the population to speak because they have to know what we're thinking and actually what we're going to do.
	And also the influencers.
	We are considered what you call influencers.
	So, in other words, they have to...
	Can I just interrupt you about that?
	Because, you know, there's people over here who are so concerned about freedom of speech.
	And we actually have...
	A very small political party who they say they're for freedom of speech.
	But all these marches, they organise the platform of speakers.
	And if a person comes along and wants to talk about something like common law, That person gets pulled from speaking.
	So this is taking me back to the controlled opposition.
	Why is it so important?
	Well, these people are actually removing people off the platform and not allowing them to speak.
	And we're suddenly seeing people who come onto the scene for Brexit, but they've just appeared from nowhere.
	You know, over the past few months, And you know, Brexit, for many people, we spent years and years prior to June 2016.
	Where were those people hiding, do you think?
	Exactly.
	Well, the controlled opposition, what we call a limited hangout, all of this is going on.
	I was banned.
	Initially, they wouldn't allow me to speak at what's called the Bilderberg Fringe.
	And David Icke and Alex Jones were very prevalent there.
	And I actually went on Facebook and said they were preventing me.
	From speaking.
	And they had to come right back to me and invite me.
	I actually did get on stage over there.
	And the rest is history, as they say.
	You can see it on the internet if you're interested at all.
	That was a great, great event.
	Yes, it was a very important event.
	You had women and children, families, standing, thousands of people.
	Not only because they couldn't, they wouldn't allow them inside the gates.
	So they deliberately, there were two police forces there.
	That's right.
	And one police force was They deliberately created a conflict situation where they wanted to keep several thousand people out.
	That's exactly right.
	They wanted them to try and force their way in so they would have a riot.
	It didn't work.
	The people were peacefully waiting for hours and hours outside the gates while they only allowed a thousand inside the gates.
	And they basically kept it like that.
	Tony Gosling, I got an escort from one of the individuals who organized that.
	Very fine lady who organized it all.
	It was interesting to see all the police parked whilst I just followed her.
	But Tony Gosling and another one of his colleagues just went straight through that.
	It was the parting of the Red Sea, except in this case it was Yellow Sea.
	And she had a Bilderberger thing.
	She was a marshal.
	Right.
	But we had sharpshooters in the grass around us aiming guns at us.
	We had men on horses with weapons.
	We had the satellite right there next to us.
	The whole thing was fenced in.
	We were like animals at the base of the Bilderberger conference that was being held in Watford, England.
	Several years ago, and you could see the helicopters flying overhead, all surveilling us like we were going to do something incredibly revolutionary.
	You got the best pictures of that whole thing.
	Yes.
	Matthew Williams.
	Matthew Williams flew over the whole estate about 30 minutes before the NOTAM came into force, and they couldn't do a damn thing about it.
	The NOTAM is a no-fly order.
	And he sold his pictures to Channel 4.
	Right.
	And of course, they said that the real Bilderberger meeting had actually occurred two weeks beforehand.
	Well, there was definitely something going on there because I watched the limos.
	I got there early.
	I watched the limos taking people up to the house.
	And there were quite a few people there, which is why we had the military presence.
	Otherwise, you wouldn't even need it.
	So there is reason to believe that there was a meeting going on, whether it was what ostensibly was Bilderberg or not.
	We never know.
	Of course, you never know who's at what meeting and so on and so forth.
	Although...
	It's interesting, on two points there, a little side story is that we were on the pub and all having a very jolly time and the pub suddenly closed in the middle of the afternoon and it was to stop Alex Jones from being served a beer.
	Alex Jones walked in To ask for a beer.
	And we were all told that we're going to be closing and just to enjoy your beer and shut up.
	Alex Jones then came in and said, sorry, we're closed.
	Well, I mean, this is where you have to separate.
	I think you need to separate the individual from the forces that act behind him and the negative and the positive that's at play.
	It's just a little funny.
	Yeah, because the other thing was that The home secretary who issued a warrant to raid Tim Reefat's flat was fired because she issued that arrest warrant or that warrant to invade Tim Reefat's flat.
	And that's all he's described all out of the Jeff Rents show.
	But it was interesting that that fired and therefore disgraced and not in any kind of a job.
	What's her name?
	Amber Rudd.
	Amber Rudd.
	She was invited to the next Bilderberger meeting.
	She was at the Bilderberger meeting, but of course it was alleged that she lost her job because of the Windrush scandal.
	It was actually because she allowed the raid on Timree Fats.
	And then of course we lost Michael Fallon, who was head of the military side in Parliament just at the time when we were supposedly signing up to PESCO.
	So you know, MPs can be expendable.
	All right.
	Well, they have to see whether Theresa May is...
	But you know, people are saying, well, shall we have Jacob Rees-Mogg or Boris Johnson?
	It won't make any difference at all, will it, Kerry?
	Well, that's a good question.
	In fact, what is going to be the move and if Theresa May is replaced, by whom?
	We've got 75-80% of our MPs that don't want to leave the European Union.
	And out of those 20% remaining, they've got interest in the City of London.
	And as you mentioned, the City of London don't want to leave.
	So there's obviously a big conflict of interest with those Brexit MPs, don't you reckon?
	At least if I think about that.
	I wonder how much it's just lip service for the people.
	You know what I'm saying?
	We had Boris Johnson.
	We had Boris Johnson who had basically, two weeks before the referendum, said he wanted Turkey to join the EU. And he only chose to vote on the Leave side around March the 8th before the June referendum.
	So...
	They always say about politicians, don't they, when they open their mouths, Okay, look, we're going to have to close this down.
	We've been going for a few hours.
	What I want to do, I know we started late.
	I do want to ask if anyone in the chat, we have a very active chat room along here and people are putting in a lot of chat to each other.
	I'm wondering if there's any questions that you would like for our guests.
	If you would like to ask our guests questions, could you put them in all caps?
	And I want to give a A minute or two for people to do that in case they have any burning questions now that we have you here with us and The important thing is that Caroline is one of the finest of the fine and she's got her own Channel and it's called stepping stones for awareness.
	I even made some pink We should see the nice colors here with this camera can't really see it but the She's technically a broadcaster.
	Stepping stones to awareness.
	And it does come up first time now when you do search it on the internet.
	It's only been up as a YouTube site.
	It's piggybacking on the back of my backup basis site on Google.
	It's only been actually there for about six or seven weeks.
	What people don't realize is we go live to Facebook for most of our interviews, which we did with you, and then that's circuited Facebook several thousand times.
	So then when it gets back onto YouTube, it's edited, goes onto YouTube, and of course it goes back to zero again.
	So it looks as if not many people have seen those interviews, but actually on Facebook, We've had thousands and thousands of people, especially cases where David Noakes and the European Arrest Warrant.
	We still have the European Arrest Warrant here.
	This just indicates that we aren't leaving the European Union.
	In terms of what Americans or anybody outside the civilized world, the European Arrest Warrant is based on Napoleonic Law, where basically you are guilty automatically and they just arrest you and throw you in a jail or prison like the Bastille.
	and you lose everything you lose all rights to everything and in about a year or maybe two years when they've decided that they've got enough evidence to actually physically bring you to court and if you haven't killed yourself or died by then or lost all your assets because you know you've just literally taken where you sit them and that's the way the europeans treat their citizens because nothing's really moved on in europe since Napoleon where it's called the the relevant legal safeguards That we had in Great Britain,
	which we fought the French for and the Normans and all that.
	That's all effectively thrown out.
	We lost all our civil rights in this country to corporate law and the European arrest mark, which means if you drop a bit of paper in Italy and they decide to arrest you, they can haul you out of bed, throw you in jail for a year or two, and then decide whether you did throw that bit of paper or not.
	Of course, there are people now being losing their businesses, losing their homes because they decided to sell something which would maybe help cure cancer or do something with that.
	And very courageous business people who've set up and tried to help people save their lives in order for the corporation to survive and keep poisoning us with all these chemicals.
	These people are being, you know, this Europe and our great Prime Minister Theresa May has said, hey, we'll keep this.
	If we get all laws in this country, it doesn't matter.
	Europe and the corporations are the only people that really matter when it comes to law in this part of the world.
	Okay.
	Well, I've just put in the link to your interview with me that is on my site, my YouTube.
	So we had it distributed quite a bit over the web, and that is not counting the people that always steal my material and put it up on their own channel as if it is their own and try to make money off me, which is so prevalent on YouTube.
	It's unbelievable.
	You need to have a staff just going after people like that.
	Yeah, if they had nothing else to do and spent all their time searching for the people that are stealing my business.
	Your lectures at BASIS get more ratings on the stolen versions.
	I know, and that's true of my other stuff as well.
	It's unbelievable.
	Even as foreign languages, I've got somebody pointed out that somebody speaking some amazingly fast European language I couldn't even identify whether it was Spanish, Italian or Portuguese or whatever.
	It's talking all over Harold Cutts' Bela lecture.
	And apparently every time he says something, this individual says something different in their language.
	Well, that's very dangerous stuff.
	Yeah, it's fascinating that we have to endure this.
	You know, YouTube could stop this stealing of people's material.
	They do it over music.
	For some reason, they're like rabid dogs over music.
	That's all data mined.
	I actually had a launch of a space shuttle, which was taken down because it had music on it.
	It had color bars and tone.
	and something in there in between switching from the tone signal to verbal speech sounded like About half a beat of a song.
	And they deleted the whole video because of that.
	Yeah, it's extraordinary.
	But when it comes to stealing, you know, other YouTubers are allowed to steal other YouTubers' work rampantly if it's film.
	And it's the most extraordinary thing.
	They have every ability to stop the stealing, but they allow it to go on.
	They allow people to monetize it.
	On top of it, which actually means they're part of the of the circle because if you understand they if it's monetized they have advertisers that means that YouTube gets their cut so that even somebody is making money on stealing our videos is that is giving a cut to YouTube so it's it's basically It's basically financial fraud that YouTube is committing.
	What are your experiences with DTube, Stevens, this new...
	You know, you've got to understand that we are a global society at this point, that there are certain points at which we convene and whether you like it or you don't like it, these particular points such as YouTube and Facebook have become those centralized sort of, they basically should belong to the people at this point.
	Those other platforms, it's almost impossible to make any money on.
	And at this point, you know, for me, I can barely stay alive as it is.
	I just barely pay my rent using the money I make from YouTube.
	My revenues collapse.
	I'm literally the last, for the next few days, I'm going to be living off my YouTube earnings.
	Have you got any questions there, Carrie?
	Yes.
	So I am scanning the chat to see if we've gotten any questions put in here.
	And so far...
	Now, that's interesting.
	Somebody's asking me.
	There is a filmmaker out there.
	He's actually British.
	We should ask you about this, Miles.
	Somebody's bringing up the fact this guy is going to be making a documentary supporting the killers that went out and did murder and claimed that Mark Richards, one of my top whistleblowers, is guilty, they say.
	And this British individual who's quite well known, Kevin Moore, I guess he has his own channel over in Britain Radio, I think it is.
	I've heard that before.
	Yeah, and so he has been doing a big campaign to try to support basically the alternative story, which has to do with not understanding anything about the Secret Space Program or who Mark Richards really is, etc., So this is the kind of thing out there.
	There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that he's part of an overall British operation.
	Have you had much dealings with Richard D. Hall?
	I mean, he's doing a lot of work.
	He's working very hard.
	He forbids me to say anything nice about him.
	So I'm going to say this about Richard D. Hall.
	I have nothing good to say about you because he told me to say that.
	All right.
	Well, I'm familiar with Richard D. Hall.
	In fact, I did invite him for an interview quite a while ago.
	I'm told he, I guess he doesn't approve of my stuff.
	He wouldn't possibly do that.
	No, no.
	He's far more important than you, Kerry, and really don't follow him.
	I see.
	Well, whatever.
	I'll wave my finger at you in a naughty kind of way.
	You should not do that.
	All right.
	Well, be that as it may.
	So there are lots of people that are sort of afraid of my level of access to information, I think.
	But at any rate, listen, the two of you, it's been wonderful having you here.
	Fascinating discussion.
	I'd like to stay in touch.
	I'd like to keep track of where you go with everything.
	I know you're publishing.
	Caroline, you've got several interviews.
	You're just churning them out, right, on your channel.
	I've got Graham Downing.
	I've got a guy.
	Excuse me.
	Excuse me?
	Well, it's two of you.
	I have nothing to do with it.
	Miles is filming.
	Miles is the machine behind me.
	Miles is filming.
	That's best.
	It's the quietest bit.
	I've got a guy called Dave Ellis who's very knowledgeable about the military unification.
	He's coming on the show on Sunday evening, so this will really blow the establishment's socks off, for sure.
	There's no point having the English military.
	We've got an aircraft carrier that they built two of.
	They can't use the second one because they don't have the money to do anything with it, and they can't even put planes on the first one.
	And the first one's got leaking propeller shafts.
	It's all been purposely done, Kerry.
	We don't have any airplanes left.
	We've got no army.
	It's all been purposely done to dismantle our military.
	I'm going to tell you, I think that's all for show.
	I think it's bullocks.
	And, you know, if you ever read The Art of War, what you have to do...
	Kerry, it's called bollocks.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, the reality is war is on a whole nother level.
	Some of these things are antiquated and they're not going to be used anyway.
	It's 100% an energy psychic warfare at multiple energetic levels.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We're going quantum.
	There are so many aspects to that story, which, of course, the more whistleblowers we can get on that score on what's really going on.
	It's an energy consciousness war.
	And in the last week, I had dealings with an individual who could be a synth who gained access to what I would call an intentional weapon.
	In other words, in the wrong hands, it could be very dangerous.
	That individual and other certain individuals say that if they did try to use it as a consciousness weapon with toxic energetic thoughts, it would rebound and that individual wiped them out.
	We have to see if that happens or not.
	Well, you know, this goes back to the Montauk.
	It's a very dangerous situation on an energetic level happening on multiple harmonics of reality, for want of a better term.
	No doubt about it.
	Well, it goes back to the Montauk project with the monster of Montauk coming from the mine of Duncan Cameron.
	As seen here, that creature has been seen, that type of creature is photographed from many crop circles.
	Here, in where we're around here, these fields here.
	A black shadow fuzzy figure, energetic dark matter creatures.
	Well, this is also something that they can conjure up.
	This is basically bringing, you know, entities from the other side into our dimension.
	That's been happening on multiple levels.
	Well, considering the dark magicians using your crop circles and those energetic ley lines to use energy and such, Riffat will be very familiar with the process.
	As is Richard Allen Miller, by the way, who I did visit and we are about to release our documentary, shot at his home, the home of a magician.
	Richard Allen Miller is a brilliant man.
	He's good fun.
	He's a black project physicist who basically kind of grew a conscience, basically.
	But he's also still working for military, Navy, intel, highly surveilled.
	It's a fascinating story, so we'll be releasing that shortly.
	Listen, it's been great having you on the show.
	Strangely, I'm looking.
	They are not writing any Questions, as I can see here.
	A very strange chat room where we just don't get any good questions.
	It would be nice to get some intelligent questions, but at least so far, nothing in all caps that I can find.
	Unfortunately, for the whole show, we haven't seen you, Terry.
	We just got your icon up, but hopefully that went out elsewhere.
	Oh, all right.
	Well, fine.
	So you're welcome to take this onto your own channel if you would like, Miles, to help yourself gain some...
	Well, I didn't record it, but I'm sure to be kind of...
	No, but I can give you the recording if you like.
	If we can get away with something like that, where you just have to put some extra video tape on there, but they probably won't.
	They probably, you know, you can steal it outright if you like.
	Whatever, but I'll give it to you.
	Anyway, okay, listen.
	Take care, both of you.
	Please stay in touch, and let's see where this all goes.
	See you.
	Thanks, Kerry.
	Thank you, Kerry, and thanks to the great Caroline.
	Thank you.
	Thanks to the audience in the U.S. And worldwide, I guess.
	Absolutely.
	And more will come after we close this down.
	They'll still be watching for hours and hours going into eternity.
	Well, just look out for Great Britain because the world is watching now whether we get Brexit.
	So let's just pray we do.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Bye-bye.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	So that is the end of that show.
	And I just want to say that I'm going to be right back at 7 p.m.
	Pacific time tonight.
	So I'll be back with Carrie.
	And she is, her name is Sister Carrie Burser, I believe is how you say the last name, and she will be back with me at 7pm tonight.
	We'll be talking more about the nano that she has installed in her body and has also found ways of expelling it or at least turning off the circuits that they installed such that she takes control of her body back.
	In the end, Consciousness will supersede any of these artificially intelligent, nano, etc., etc.
	I firmly believe that this is a challenge to the consciousness, the field of consciousness that is humanity to step it up another level.
	And this will make us only stronger in the future.
	So...
	It's not a totally dark story.
	So thanks again for watching.
	Have a great day, and I'll be back at 7 p.m.
	tonight, again, talking about Nano and with Sister Carrie Burser.
	Take care.

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