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Feb. 13, 2018 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY TRUTHSEEKAH

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	I'm not sure how to do that.
	She's not a Christian!
	Give it up, y'all!
	Your portal to the paranormal, esoteric, and all things spiritual.
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	And now, your host, Truthseeker.
	What's up, ladies and gentlemen?
	You heard the man.
	This is the Truth Seeker Podcast.
	I'm your host, Truth Seeker, joined with Carrie Cassidy.
	Tonight is my guest.
	I'm excited to have her on.
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	As I said, Carrie Cassidy has joined me tonight.
	When it comes to people who have inspired me and influenced me to be doing what I'm doing right now, I think that there's people who have come along on my path.
	That have influenced me to the point that I'm doing what I'm doing.
	I'm reaching a lot of people.
	There's a lot of people who resonate with my music.
	I wouldn't be doing a podcast.
	I wouldn't be doing music about the esoteric and spiritual subjects if it wasn't for a handful of people.
	I could definitely count these people on two hands.
	Jordan Maxwell, Manly P. Hall, Michael Tasarian, James Gilliland, and there's a few others.
	But along that list, there comes someone by the name of Carrie Cassidy.
	Thank you so much for coming on the show.
	It's an honor to speak with you again.
	How are you doing, Carrie Cassidy?
	I'm good.
	How are you?
	Thanks for having me.
	Doing great.
	Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
	You have a bunch of fans.
	There's a bunch of people here coming from your channel and from the Facebook and they're hanging out in the chat room as well.
	So let everybody know, if you guys want to call in, we're going to have the phone lines open here towards the end of the show.
	The number's streaming across the top of the platform and along the bottom as well.
	So if anybody wants to call in, you guys feel free to do that.
	I'm excited about this Thank you for having me on your show.
	I was on your show just a couple weeks ago and had a great response from a lot of people who tune in to the Project Camelot Universe.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Thanks.
	When it comes to getting into the stuff that you cover, it is a wide range of topics, usually having to do with spirituality, ET contact, aliens, secret space program, these type of things.
	What got you into that stuff?
	Because I think many of us who are into this type of work, there's something that happened usually when we were children or teenagers.
	We got in, whether it was the paranormal, the occult.
	Seeing UFOs.
	Was there some type of defining moments that you had when you was a kid that got you into this type of work?
	Well, I was abducted.
	I can say that.
	I had a lot of contact in the unseen world, I guess you want to call it.
	And I have various memories that tell me that was going on now when I look back.
	But I can also say that I was...
	I thought reality was kind of boring and so immediately I started reading tons of books and trying to explore the world that way and also I was just really aware of being part of an unseen world.
	So, and then on top of it, I have these memories of having been abducted.
	I have a sort of a nightmare that I had a recurring nightmare up until I was around 12 years old.
	I've said it before, but you know, it was A loud buzzing sound.
	I would be walking out my front door down a pathway to what was a white picket fence, even though we didn't have a white picket fence in front of my house.
	And on the other side of the fence was a guy with a top hat and an overcoat.
	And everything was dark, and I was very terrified.
	And then I would wake up right when I got to the gate.
	And then finally, when I got to be 12 years old, I actually went through the gate at one point, and then the nightmares stopped.
	I used to be afraid of Santa Claus, you know, unlike kids that, you know, because I heard that it came in a sleigh through the sky on a roof and then landed on your roof.
	Well...
	I guess that sounded like an UFO or ET experience to me.
	Although we didn't talk about that back when I was a kid.
	I mean, that wasn't in the literature, really.
	And so, yeah, it was probably that stimulated me.
	I know when I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind that I was like, yes, finally, someone's talking about this and it's real.
	And I was like, it was practically a religious experience for me because That was the first kind of mainstream thing that I remember, at least in my brain.
	I also went to AIMS Research Lab outside.
	I was born in Palo Alto in Moffett Field Hospital, and that's a military hospital.
	I was the only kid in my family born there.
	I seem to have some special abilities as a result of having been dealt with there.
	I also have a really weird birthmark that covers most of my right shoulder.
	That is strange and I don't know where it came from.
	Yeah, so many questions just out of that little bit of stuff, but I can, I mean, I understand if you are into these different topics, that would be the reason why.
	You have these encounters, you have these experiences, nobody's talking about them.
	If you go to school and talk about them, or there's relatives around you talk about them, you're ostracized, you're laughed at at times, or whatever the case is.
	And so to find Podcasts now.
	Everybody's doing this type of work and stuff.
	When I was going through my awakening and having crazy stuff happen and starting to see ships, Project Camelot is where it was.
	It creates a safe haven.
	And judging by all the people watching now, they have somebody to talk to where they don't have to freak out and think that they're the only ones who are seeing this stuff, that I can't talk about it, or people are going to judge me.
	You're probably going to get judged, but at the same time, there's a safe haven, a community, if you will, of people who embrace this stuff and willingly talk about it.
	So whenever you've seen those television shows, Close Encounters, things like that, it lets you know that, first of all, I'm not alone.
	Somebody thought of this movie for one.
	And then two, one of the things I wanted to ask you about from that story, you talk about the men with the top hat.
	Does that have anything to do with people seeing the shadow figures of the men with the top hat in their room wearing the trench coat?
	Is that connected at all?
	Well, I couldn't say.
	I mean, in my dream, that was a real person or whatever.
	It does resemble the man in black scenario.
	So I kind of get it.
	I believe I was my lab.
	And then I had further evidence of that when I met Norm Bergram, who I interviewed regarding the ringmakers of Saturn, the ships around Saturn.
	And he's quite an elderly man when I interviewed him.
	So he was, I think was 83 or 85.
	And then he disappeared completely off the scene.
	And my interview is the only one he ever did.
	At the time, he thought he was going to start going public, but he was going to start also He had been given a new lab by a group of men, and he was very excited.
	And I knew the writing was on the wall right then, that I probably, you know, that he would disappear.
	But he didn't know that.
	He lived in Palo Alto in a big house that he had, I think, built.
	And his wife had passed on.
	He was smart as a whip.
	And he basically talked about working underground in Moffat Field in the secret space program for his whole life.
	And I'm sure they took him back to work for them.
	So what can I say?
	You know, in my experience...
	It all kind of culminated because I got into Project Camelot, because I created Project Camelot.
	I was drawn to investigate these things.
	I actually worked in Hollywood for 20 years, and then I became a...
	And I was trying to make films and break into the sort of, I don't know, the big boys network.
	But I was never kiss ass the way you need to kind of be.
	I grew up in Northern California.
	So I was always a rebel.
	But I did write screenplays and try to shop them around Hollywood and eventually became an independent producer.
	I went to film school.
	And then I reached this glass ceiling where I couldn't go any further.
	I was pitching projects, packaging them, and trying to get them off the ground in Hollywood.
	And then in order to make money, of course, to stay alive, I was working as a contractor to JPL, Jet Propulsion Lab.
	And this was for a few years.
	And I worked in media, and I was very aware on a psychic level that there were a lot of black projects going on there.
	I was investigating nonstop on the internet at that point, and I was also writing sci-fi screenplays on my lunch hour.
	So, you know, in other words, it kind of all built up to me creating Camelot.
	Yeah.
	Everything just kind of reaching a pinnacle for that defining moment to kind of leave your mark on history, if you will, as well.
	When we're talking about dealing with abductions, I don't know much about your story of the abductions, but Especially when you mention MyLab.
	So are we talking about ETs abducting you?
	But when we're talking about the whole MyLab thing, I think the government's involved with that as well.
	Do you want to talk about what type of entities were taking you?
	You know, I don't know.
	I know there was that I had interaction with grays, uh, but I don't, you know, because I have a, um, a dislike for them in general.
	Uh, but, uh, and I also have had dreams in which, um, various ETs, you know, I've had various ETs show up in my dreams.
	So, um, actually quite a gamut.
	Um, So what can I say?
	My lab has to do with Moffat Field, the military hospital, the fact that when I went to Ames Research Lab in Palo Alto as a kid on a field trip, I recognized it.
	There was just all a lot of things going on regarding that, and this is the military side.
	However, if you listen to the interviews I've done with Melinda Leslie, who She has investigated my labs extensively, as well as other kinds of abductions, etc.
	She talks about how there are ETs working with the military on the abductions.
	And I do believe that I was genetically enhanced.
	So whether I was enhanced before I was born was probably the case.
	I tend to think that my birthmark...
	Is the result of them maybe screwing up or doing something to me that made the birthmark?
	I was born with it.
	And then I, you know, I can just say that.
	So it's not just the military.
	The military has been working with ETs for a long time on these genetic programs to enhance humanity and so on.
	You mentioned having a psychic knowing about maybe different situations or just inner intuition.
	I've noticed that with contact comes these heightened senses of awareness.
	I don't know if it comes through the contact or it releases something within you that's already there.
	And so have you had any of those encounters whenever you were younger, like knowing the next song that's going to come on the radio?
	I know that's something small, but it usually starts with some stuff like that.
	Have you had those encounters when you were younger?
	Yeah, I mean, like I say, I was very, very aware of what we call the unseen world.
	I also, you know...
	Would see ghosts and can see ghosts even now.
	I try to screen it out.
	I get visitations and things.
	I know when somebody's remote viewing me, I have prophetic dreams that come true.
	But I also did this thing while I was...
	Right out of college, I went into meditation for a few months at a time and decided to connect all my chakras.
	I had a kundalini awakening.
	Since then, I've had multiple samadhi experiences.
	I would attribute a lot of my psychic ability that's grown, sort of expanded over the years.
	Yeah.
	But I would say abductions do trigger that.
	It also, you know, I can turn lights off as street lights or turn them on or, you know, I have evidence of affecting the TSA scanners.
	I've mentioned that before and in airports.
	And I've also affected some machinery where in front of other people.
	So It wasn't so much that I intended to do that.
	It's kind of started to just manifest.
	I had some weird abilities as I grew up for a long time that I was aware of that other people didn't seem to have.
	Knowing things that I wasn't supposed to know.
	Talking about this stuff openly, I know you were talking about some people can be targeted and things like that.
	I've been having this conversation a lot lately, especially when I chose, I'm in the Bible Belt, I'm in Alabama, right?
	And so I'm talking about psychic abilities, UFO contact, all of this stuff openly in conversation.
	I was working a full-time regular job and I had my Facebook page was public for everybody to see it.
	And all of my friends warned me, dude, don't talk about this stuff.
	They're going to think you crazy.
	I've talked about, you know, psychedelic adventures and things like that that I've had.
	And I said, look, if your boss finds out about this or this person, that person, your mother-in-law, whatever, you're going to be in trouble.
	You want to keep that private.
	But it was always this inward knowing, like if you was privileged to this information, why would you want to to keep it away from everybody and just keep it secretive to yourself?
	Especially when other people are struggling.
	I look at the way I found your work and what it did for me.
	So maybe somebody can find my story and my work and they will feel like they're not alone or feel like they're not crazy or whatever the case is.
	But talk a little bit about that because there's so many people who are still scared to like, yeah, I'm not ready to come out with the information yet.
	I don't...
	You know, they're not ready for the backlash.
	Talk a little bit about speaking about this stuff.
	Especially, you know, I think you come from a place where it wasn't so widely accepted.
	Now, everybody has a podcast.
	You know, you were kind of like a forerunner in many respects.
	So, if you can, talk a little bit about that.
	If we should keep it in.
	If we should...
	Do podcasts and talk about this stuff openly in front of thousands of people?
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, obviously, I'm an advocate of that, of being open about all of it.
	You know, when we started Camelot, in fact, most people didn't even know what a whistleblower was.
	They just thought a whistleblower was somebody, you know, in like big tobacco or something.
	A person in a corporation.
	They didn't understand that there was a...
	Well, I mean, the Matrix movie did come out quite a number of years ago, and I think before Camelot.
	So, you know, it seems like that really kind of told the story about what we're living in.
	I studied Eastern philosophy growing up, and they always talk about Maya and illusion and how this reality is an illusion, etc.
	And the idea that it's a hologram is in keeping with that notion.
	So it never seems strange to me.
	In fact, I always think truth is stranger than fiction.
	And I've sort of lived by that.
	I've also...
	Very fortunate in that I had very unusual parents.
	They were not joiners.
	They didn't follow the neighborhood or any of that stuff.
	And they were just completely individualistic.
	And they did what they wanted and thought what they wanted.
	And they were both very intelligent.
	No, they don't.
	And my father was self-employed and would never work for anyone else.
	And that was completely bizarre back when I was growing up.
	I was not considered normal by any means.
	And my mother would go to James Brown concerts by herself because my father didn't like it.
	No!
	Sorry, I have my cat and daughter.
	I'm going to have to deal with them.
	You can.
	I can take it if you want to go ahead and get them.
	Okay, yeah.
	So anyway, just saying that, you know, being honest about who you are and really, I was just talking to a friend of mine about how it's really more important to change society than it is to change the individual.
	The individuals are where innovation comes from and change, and society is like that square line.
	It's a whole that you want to put a round peg into.
	And so everything to do with therapy and psychology has to do with fitting humans into the square sort of hole and becoming a cog in a machine.
	So that's always been philosophically important.
	I'm against that.
	So I gotta go.
	Hold on a second.
	Okay, yeah.
	No, I mean, the funny thing with that is I've been hearing that a lot lately, especially today.
	I was actually listening to the Joe Rogan podcast today, and they were talking about how should you try to change society or change the individual?
	And Joe had a philosopher and someone who's well-researched in the medical industry and the psychiatric industry as well.
	And he was talking about, you know, one said this, one said that, and Joe was saying that we could have the personal enlightenment.
	We can have the personal revelation of to better yourself in whatever you're dealing with, whatever you're going through.
	And then if enough people have the personal enlightenment and better themselves, then it's going to change us as a collective.
	And then so...
	Should we try to deal with each person where they are or change the laws, change the way that we look at food, change the way that we look at society, or just on the individual level?
	I honestly think it's both.
	I think that we should try to change society.
	As a whole, but then on the personal revelation, the personal journey ourselves, as we change ourselves, we're going to begin to deal with the people that surround us.
	We're going to begin to start podcasts and movements and things like that.
	That's going to touch an actual much wider audience.
	So dealing with the micro and the macro with it all, I think it's all powerful and all comes into play.
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	But it's important to realize that Humanity is living in basically a slave system and on this earth.
	So for the most part, society absolutely change it, but you have to...
	That's my point.
	The individual is going to change themselves and going to evolve and re-evolve back to source.
	That's the journey.
	But in the end of the day, the prison around us are the institutions.
	And the politics, you know, every institution you can think of, religion being a gigantic one.
	So, you know, these are the things that need to change.
	Individuals are bringing gifts with them, and it's very important to allow for that.
	So I'm a big advocate of that.
	I studied social change in college, actually, because I'm all about a change in the world.
	So changing society is really the name of the game there.
	Before we went live, I asked you if any topic was off the table, if there's anything that I shouldn't bring up, I shouldn't mention.
	I don't know if you've addressed this at all.
	I am familiar with your work 100%, but I haven't heard you address this at all, if you have.
	And this was the same thing.
	I had some other friends say, yeah, don't bring that up.
	She may get offended if you bring that up.
	Whatever it can.
	I said, you know what?
	I'm not going to say this to offend her, but I'm going to say this because I'm genuinely curious as a fan of Project Camelot, of somebody who has consumed hours and hours of your work.
	So when I got into ufology, one of the big people I found right off the bat was Dr.
	Stephen Greer.
	And I followed everything he said, hook, line, and sinker.
	I really enjoyed the CE5 initiative and the contact experience and all of that stuff that he brought out.
	Also the work of James Gilliland, which was very similar.
	And then I seen the interview that you did with Stephen Greer, and I really enjoyed his work.
	And you two kind of went at it for maybe an hour and a half or so, just going back and forth.
	Um, about all ETs are good versus you can't just categorize them as all good, even though we would like to believe that, that they were all good.
	And so you, you went back and forth with, with him for a while.
	Um, can you talk a little bit about that at all?
	Have you, have you spoke about that at all?
	Have you, have you come across?
	Oh, sure.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It's no problem.
	Uh, you know, I get interviewed quite a lot and once in a while people do ask me about that interview.
	Um, What happened at the time was, well, we went to the Barcelona conference.
	We were invited to chair a panel that was actually, I guess, a press conference with the speakers.
	And so that was back in the day when Bill Ryan was my partner in Camelot.
	And we also had a witness, Henry Deacon, who came out under his own name about a month before that in another conference that happened in Switzerland.
	And he was invited by the organizers of the Barcelona conference.
	His real name is Arthur Neumann.
	And he had given testimony that Camelot was one of our first major witnesses.
	And he had never shown up in person until this time when he Went to this one conference.
	And so then what happened was he went on stage when Bob Dean was on stage and he announced that he had been working on Mars.
	And basically, you know, said a few things and I went on stage with him for moral support.
	This was just a split second decision on his part.
	But no!
	God, I'm sorry.
	This is just crazy.
	Usually this is not such a problem.
	So I'll try closing that door.
	So anyway, and so we...
	We interviewed...
	Actually, it was Alfred Weber and Bob Dean and Henry Deacon, and we all were backstage doing in this little sort of cubbyhole area where they allowed you to do interviews.
	And we just stopped...
	Finished that interview and Stephen Greer walked in with his entourage and sat down in one of the chairs and just said, I'm ready for my interview.
	Is that how that interview started?
	Yep.
	And I warned him ahead of time.
	I just said, look, we don't get along.
	Because what had happened was he had intimidated a lot of the free energy activists at the conference.
	And some people think there could have been a riot, but there wasn't.
	He also did something strange that Arthur Neumann was not too pleased about.
	And I don't know what transpired.
	I just know something did.
	And then on top of it, he went on stage and lied to the audience.
	And there was about 1500 people there.
	And he said something like one...
	I can't remember.
	It's been many years, but it was something, I think I say it in the interview, but it was, I think it was, all ETs are good or something.
	And then there was another lie that was like another bald-faced lie.
	And, you know, it's important to know that as above, so below, that we live with a number of, well, zillions of races, really, of beings of all kinds and Some are good and some are not.
	There's service to self, service to others.
	Most of them are mixtures of that.
	But some are definitely negatively inclined towards humans.
	And it is very dangerous, in my view, to mislead humans in this way.
	So, you know, I figure that he's lying.
	I know that he works with the CIA. I also know that He is, well, I'm not going to go any further on that.
	So basically, you know, I told him before the interview that I didn't want to interview him.
	Bill wanted to interview him.
	So we decided to, okay, here he is.
	He wants to be interviewed.
	And I'd actually gone on to one of the Facebook or something the night before and actually called him out on his two lies.
	And I think that's what- Yeah, that's what I picked up.
	Yeah.
	Initially, we had invited him for an interview, but he never agreed to it.
	By the time I got to the conference and saw how he behaved, which was quite interesting, I decided I did not want to interview him.
	That's how that started.
	I'd do it again today if I was forced to be in the same room with him and discuss these things.
	You haven't crossed paths with him since then, any conferences or nothing like that?
	No, not face to face.
	I haven't dealt with him at all.
	You said you mentioned that he could be making it all up.
	I don't know if it's...
	No, he's not making it up.
	I mean, we're actually in agreement on many, many things.
	It's just that, number one, he's not educating the CIA or the secret space program.
	And that's, you know, he's got a lot of, you know, he's got a lot of sort of Confusion, let's say, going on in his head.
	And he's also misleading people.
	It's very dangerous, you know, when humans are being abducted and children are being taken off our planet and used as slaves and, you know, eaten and, you know, their fluids being used and genetically, you know, re-engineered, etc., etc.
	I mean, the list just goes on.
	And to tell people, you know, to basically...
	Get them to take down their guard and also to call gray ships in is not a skill, in my opinion.
	So, you know, I don't agree with the way he conducts himself.
	No.
	So dealing with the good and the bad and things like that, the good ETs, the bad ETs, we're seeing ships, all of the stuff's going on.
	I've definitely seen it to where, you know, the ETs or whoever's running the globe right now, kind of like, as you said, they have malicious intent.
	Like I said, the slave systems, and they want us for our energy, and we're like the oil that kind of makes their machine work.
	And we've seen videos in the past of like these ships that are coming in close to the to the planet and there's like plasma beams being shot out at these ships and things like that my and i know this is still making it very simple and making it very abc but the way i see it um is that the bad guys are here running you know the planet everything that we have going on and it seems like the good guys are out there watching over us maybe the angels from from the ancient texts and things like that Is
	that safe to say?
	Or is it just like a warfare?
	It's a little bit of everything that's kind of taking place above our heads.
	The good, the bad, the ETs that are neutral and things like that.
	What is going on, you know?
	Well, it is a war of worlds.
	And I will say a lot of the good ETs do come here, as well as, you know, are involved in safeguarding our planet.
	If you look at the interviews I've done with Ashiana Dean, you'll see she talks about the Guardians.
	And the Guardians...
	Are a group of various races that have all sort of banded together to safeguard the human genome and the human experiment here on planet Earth.
	So they're definitely watching over us and backing us when possible.
	However, they have a policy of non-intervention.
	So in order for them to do something, they have to have a gesture by the dark side, the way it works for them.
	So the dark side does something.
	They are able to then to take a stance at that point.
	And most of the time, they also don't intervene.
	They'd rather work through a human who is, you know, working with them in a conscious way and then counteract the negative, you know, things that go on.
	And You can have something like, for example, we were driving in Switzerland with this old Audi station wagon that Bill had at the time, and we drove to the top of the Alps up a really steep, winding road.
	And we got to the very top, and we pulled into a parking lot, you know, slowed down in the way you drive in a parking lot, you know, going quite slow.
	And all of a sudden, one of our wheels fell off.
	And he had had the car checked out, you know, by a mechanic before we left for Switzerland, etc.
	And it had been sliced through, the mechanic said it was just sliced through.
	And so, you know, that was sabotage, I guess you could call it.
	But had it happened when we were on the cliffs on the way up, I don't know.
	How would I be here today?
	I really don't know.
	But you see, what happens is I would say there's an intervention.
	So we still get some of the, you know, negativity that happened.
	But at the same time, it's like most of it just goes by the wayside.
	So I think this is a lot of times the way they intervene.
	And I've seen other evidence of this as well.
	They do lots of really interesting things to deal with the dark side.
	And it's an interesting balance.
	Unseen beings here as well all the time besides ETs.
	There's a vested interest in having this genome, this seeding, as we call it, of humanity make it through.
	And we've already become an ascension planet since 2012.
	So this is an ongoing game, if you want to call it.
	It's definitely a war of worlds, for all intents and purposes.
	How can we know that the interaction that we're having, like individuals, you know, we're talking about the Disclosure Project, all of this stuff.
	I personally believe that Disclosure is going to start just with people having encounters and experiences and kind of waking up to the truth of who they are and having this knowledge of things that's happened to them as a kid, whether it's suppressed information or dreams or whatever the case is.
	But When we're out there, I've had a lot of sightings, and I felt like I've connected with the ships.
	They've stopped, they've blinked, they've shot beams.
	Just insane stuff, just to let you know that they know that you know.
	That's the information, whether it's communicating.
	Telepathically or whatever, you feel like you're in touch with the divine.
	You feel like you're in touch with something angelic.
	You leave with a sense of creativity, of bliss, of awe and wonder.
	You want to create, you want to write a song, whatever the case is.
	And so this is how it actually inspired me and impacted me.
	But how do we know that we're in touch with the ETs or the angelic beings or whatever that have our best interest in mind?
	Is there a checklist?
	Do we just set that good intention when we go out there?
	Should we even be doing that?
	What would you say to that?
	Well, I wouldn't necessarily invite the ships in, as a lot of these people like to do, because they're mostly greys.
	You know, it's important to know that, you know, a lot of the ETs, and especially the negative side, are what we call 4D beings.
	They don't necessarily go beyond that dimension, and they do use craft.
	A lot of the more developed, six-dimensional and above, will come.
	A lot of them have left bodies behind, so they no longer have a physical body.
	So they'll manifest as light beings.
	That can be deceptive as well, because greys and reptilians have learned to camouflage themselves and look like Nordics, etc.
	So there's a lot of deception out there.
	You know, you have to understand that you're a spirit, you're a soul spirit, That has come into this sort of dimension to play this game, to be part of it, to contribute what your gifts are, you know, and to suss out truth from falsity.
	So it's not served to you on a platter.
	It's basically something that you need to learn discernment.
	That's the game.
	That's the, you know, that's the purpose of being here.
	So it is difficult.
	I can tell you any time a being, regardless of What shape, size, anything they are tells you what to do.
	That's a negative-oriented being.
	Anytime they say, oh, don't worry.
	We're going to come and take care of your president.
	Get rid of him.
	We're going to come and take over your country.
	You know, make everything all better and get rid of war for you.
	And I have to say, if you haven't read Childhood Zen by Arthur C. Clarke, then I highly recommend it because that's telling you what happens when a group of beings from another planet come in and tell you they're going to make everything all right.
	That's a takeover scenario.
	So it's really important to realize that we're not here to be rescued.
	We're going to be saving ourselves.
	That's also the game.
	So, you know, it's kind of things like that.
	And if you're walking around going, oh, I hate it here.
	I can't wait to leave.
	You actually haven't gotten the message of why you came in the first place.
	You need to, you know, backtrack a bit and understand that you as a soul made a very momentous decision to come here.
	You had a reason for coming here.
	Perhaps you wanted to share your truth with others and enhance your own ability to understand truth and falsity and also become a better teacher so that you could go into the other dimensions and move on up in that way.
	And this is a great school.
	I do believe in that philosophy of what Earth is.
	But there's more to it.
	Mm-hmm.
	When it comes to the good and the bad and things like that, and I know that's just so cut and dry.
	Are you good or bad?
	Like there's no, like in between, there's just tons of neutral, like you said, entities and spirits and vibrations, and there's just tons of different beings that are out there that there's a bunch of neutral ones.
	It's not just good or bad, or I want to harm you, or I want to bless you, or whatever the case is.
	So when we're kind of dealing with this idea of When we talk about the term abduction, I don't really hear that term anymore.
	I know when I was a kid back in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, but now everything I'm hearing now is I'm a contactee, I'm an experiencer.
	Is that by deception or is interaction changing?
	Well, there was always, you know, it would depend on which beings you were dealing with, whether you were, you know, sort of abducted or you were sort of a co-party in the situation, whether you were...
	For example, I would have visitations.
	At one point I had...
	I've told this story many times, but for the purposes of demonstration here, I spent all night talking to a little old man.
	He was a very small, short, bald-headed old man who sat by my bed the whole night.
	He didn't abduct me or do anything to me.
	He just sat in a chair next to my bed talking to me.
	And when I woke up, right before I woke up, I said, Oh, wait a minute.
	Where are you from?
	And I was really happy.
	I remembered to ask him, and he said, Andromeda.
	So, you know, that was, you know, a contact experience or kind of thing.
	On the other hand, like I said, I did have what I think are abduction-like scenarios going on.
	So, you know, it's, I think it's being politically, you know, whitewashed in a certain sense a lot.
	Yeah.
	And I think that's dangerous.
	I think that, well, I know that there's no doubt whatsoever that the Greys, certain rogue, as they call rogue groups of Greys, definitely abduct humans, and they have in massive quantities.
	It didn't stop.
	Some people think it stopped.
	It's still going on.
	Yeah.
	You know, in the end, I am a believer that we are not victims.
	As souls, we agree to participate in certain things.
	They may be positive or negative.
	And there's a learning experience to be had there.
	There's also sometimes a gift that comes through the negative experience that you'll be able to share and understand other people's pain.
	You know, and so it's that kind of thing.
	I don't see it as a one-way street when you have a negative experience.
	You talked about the little being like a little old man.
	Maybe that's just the way it appeared to you in the dream, but how tall was the little old man?
	I want to know that because I've had some weird encounters I haven't really talked about too much.
	Well, I don't know, but I know that when I heard Alex Collier talk about He was visited by a little old man, bald-headed old man, and a very large, tall guy, and they were both from Andromeda.
	The little old man sounded just like the little old man that visited me, and this was before Camelot.
	So, but I don't know exactly how tall he is.
	I mean, I think he might have been like four feet tall or less, but I really don't know.
	He was, you know, sitting down.
	I just saw him as a little old man.
	Now, I was disappointed at the time because when he told me he was from Andromeda, I was thinking, you know, damn, he just looks so normal.
	I just like a person.
	I was hoping for some exotic, bizarre, you know, being type thing.
	And in that case, it wasn't that way.
	We talked a little bit about, you know, what do you feel about Stephen Greer?
	And there's a lot of people out there that I feel are muddying the waters.
	There's so much fake YouTube stories and people share it for clickbait and fake videos that are 100% CGI and people are just sharing it and stuff like that.
	And then there's all of these new people on the scene and stuff like that.
	Where do you...
	How do you feel?
	Do you pick up when you see somebody all over the place and they're like the new UFO guy and you can read through them?
	Are you picking up any of that stuff as well?
	Oh yeah, sure.
	It's interesting.
	We were just talking, a friend of mine and me, about Tom DeLonge and that whole effort.
	He's a new guy on the scene and he had no interest in You know, contacting the people who actually spent their lives investigating this story.
	Never got an email from Tom DeLonge?
	Sorry?
	You never got an email from Tom DeLonge?
	No, he won't speak to me.
	Actually, I have invited him to meet with a producer, but no answer.
	You know, so, I mean, I have no ill will towards these people, but I do know when they're doing things that are nefarious, etc.
	And the sighting that they talked about on his, you know, Go to the Stars video or whatever that was, was...
	According to some of my sources, it was actually one of ours.
	Actually, there were several ships.
	I think there were like 20 ships or something, and it went on for a number of days, etc.
	And I know there's some interesting information out there that suddenly thinks that this was a...
	I mean, that's just mudding the waters further.
	But I can tell you that after, you know, like Rich Dolan is only dedicated his life and has like three, you know, very thick volumes of very well researched sightings and encounters and so on with military, you know, being involved with, you know, policemen and Large crowds, etc.
	Very well documented.
	I mean, there's zillions and zillions of sightings.
	To choose one and then for that one to be so questionable and to have happened 13 years ago is so fucking, sorry, is just like so amazingly superficial and, I don't know, convenient.
	And then to find out, at least according to my sources, which are usually pretty right on, That this actually was a managed event and that they used that and that it wasn't even actually, you know, some of the footage was, looks like it was CGI indeed and, you know, so on.
	And so what are they doing?
	More lies to the public, you know, under and sort of Mudding the waters and making it harder for those of us who've really dedicated our lives to the subject.
	So, yeah, it's not welcome the way they're approaching it.
	Now, I know those people know exactly what they're talking about.
	I know they are from Black Projects.
	I know those people are part of the Secret Space Program and so on.
	You know, again, I wrote to them.
	I basically, you know, I've actually made videos in which I did a commentary.
	I've written articles about it.
	It's all on my website.
	You know, it's on my YouTube channel.
	So you can, you know, just put DeLong into the search and you'll find these things.
	So, you know, I've been commenting on that.
	Other people, you know, that have been in the part of the sector...
	That I don't agree with.
	That's okay.
	I don't have to agree with other people.
	I don't mind.
	You know, I think it's good that we disagree.
	But I think that there's a lot of dishonesty.
	I know there's a lot of people that appear to be working for the crowd and they're actually working for the CIA and part of the deception and so on.
	So what can I tell you?
	It's that kind of a playing field.
	I don't...
	I don't know if I just...
	I don't want to...
	Because I'm kind of...
	I have a lot of different guests on the show.
	I try not to...
	I mean, I have my own opinions.
	And so I try not to just say, hey, watch out for this guy type deal.
	Because I don't know 100% for sure that this guy is making it up.
	But I have my inklings about certain people that I'm just like, man, I see right through it.
	And I don't...
	I wouldn't...
	I don't know if I should call their name.
	If I'm the Truth Seeker podcast, maybe we should...
	Well, because the law was so public and because that particular sighting was questionable, I don't mind mentioning it.
	Again, I don't mind that he's joined the playing field.
	I don't mind that he wants to.
	He does seem like he wants to get the truth out.
	Now, whether he's used and abused or doesn't know one sighting from another and has been told, you know, oh, don't touch the people that are out there.
	They're You know, jaded or they're whatever.
	You know, in other words, you never know what side, what kind of disinfo he's been dead as well.
	But, you know, in that case, generally speaking, unless somebody really is, I don't know, doing something extremely negative to the public, I'm not going to mention them.
	I don't think, you know, having I'm not interested in this interview.
	In naming names, you know, perpetrators of various things.
	But I think, you know, word to the wise in terms of if you're going to make a big splash and you're going to bring a bunch of scientists and Yeah, definitely.
	Especially when I see him kind of come onto the scene.
	This is somebody I've been listening to his music since I was, you know, 11 years old or so.
	So to hear somebody you've been listening to their music and now they're coming out into the same type of field that you're interested in.
	It's kind of cool, but then you see the information that he's bringing and the people he's working with and it just kind of it kind of draws up a red flag.
	Let me ask you this, though.
	Is this the same Tom DeLonge that's been working with Coast to Coast AM? Like, at the very end of Coast to Coast AM, when it goes off, they tell you the producers and the underwriters, and they always name Tom DeLonge.
	They've been doing it for years.
	I know he's been into this.
	We're talking about Tom Danheiser.
	Tom Danheiser.
	Okay, so it's Tom Danheiser and Tom...
	Okay.
	I'm just making sure.
	For some reason, I know he's been on Coast to Coast AM, Tom DeLonge, back in the day.
	Yeah, before he came out and did his big thing, what he did and all that stuff.
	But yeah, I've definitely been into...
	Yeah, Coast to Coast won't talk to me.
	They told me, first of all, I was too much competition.
	Then they let me on accidentally for less than 15 minutes and hung up on me.
	Yeah, when they found out it was you.
	That's the weird thing.
	You would think that there would be more unity in the field, right?
	And there is a lot of unity, don't get me wrong, but you'd think that there would be more if there was like a common interest and an invested interest, but we find out that I think a lot of people are making it up.
	I think that other people have book deals and publishing deals, and they're making it up as we go.
	I've had a lot of contact experiences and And it's just mind-blowing, mind-boggling that I've dedicated my life to this stuff.
	And I don't have half of the information that these people are talking about.
	Most of this stuff is muddy when you're coming out of those realms or you're waking up in a dream and you felt something.
	In your room and you're having all these encounters or whatever, but then these people have it down to a T. I think we're doing good to question.
	I don't think we should follow anybody's teaching or books, hook, line, and sinker.
	I think we should question it all and what remains.
	And once we take these other pieces of the puzzle and put them together, let me take Carrie Cassidy's piece.
	Let me take Steven Greer's piece, let me take Maxwell, everybody, put it together, and eventually it starts to make a little bit more sense.
	And some of the people who are making it up, they're kind of falling to the wayside, or they're focusing on other things at the moment, and they've kind of lost their interest or passion in it or whatever.
	I appreciate you being here and doing what you're doing, and you've been someone who has stood the test of time over threats and trolls and all of this stuff that you get by talking about this stuff early on.
	Do you want to talk about that a little bit?
	Because we're talking about encouraging people to speak out about your experiences, but it kind of does come with a price, right?
	Sure.
	But, you know, I mean, I was sort of geared to be a public person because I simply knew I would when I was a very young person.
	And I also studied acting in New York City for four years.
	And, you know, I came back to Hollywood to be an actress, actually, and a director.
	My path didn't quite go for I didn't spend a long time doing both of those things.
	I may return to it at a certain point.
	So, you know, I was ready.
	I studied journalism.
	You know, I was a journalist.
	So I have a background that sort of supports the kind of work I do.
	And that's been very valuable.
	Sure, you know, I understand absolutely from past life experience as well, what it means to be a public person.
	So I was totally ready for what might come along.
	Some of the things, though, were kind of shocking.
	Like I wasn't quite prepared to have people who I interviewed turn on me like a couple of weeks later and suddenly call me names and do all kinds of stuff when I'd been nothing but kind to them.
	And that has happened to a lot, you know, has happened a lot actually over the years.
	And that's been very bizarre.
	I've also been threatened by some of my witnesses.
	And, you know, so those are things that were a little bit more advanced than just worrying about the public bad-mouthing you.
	I mean, we know that the CIA and these NSA are paying trolls to really inundate my channel, which is why I don't have comments.
	The trolls are just rampant, and they're really vicious.
	Some of them are just out of their minds vicious.
	Some of them really are freaking crazy.
	100%.
	This sector does encourage crazies.
	And also people get triggered.
	So even people that are relatively normal, when they hear someone talking about things that they're trying to bury and that they may have some very bad memories around, That can kind of, you know, make them go crazy, I guess, or something.
	So, you know, it's kind of a dangerous game that we're part of, but it's important.
	It's a life and death struggle to get, you know, keep humanity going, to get the truth out.
	So...
	You basically...
	I mean, who cares whether somebody calls you names or lies about you and all that kind of crap?
	I mean, it's just...
	You kind of have to roll with the punches.
	You got to get used to it because it doesn't stop.
	Yeah, it doesn't stop.
	It's their deal.
	It's not you.
	It's not your world.
	It's their world.
	You know, they have an image of you in their head.
	That image is not you.
	So it's a very interesting dynamic.
	And it's also...
	You know, it's great to learn the kind of discernment against self-control, understanding, even, you know, sort of patience and love with, you know, these kids, these babies that are like no idea what's going on and think that, you know.
	I mean, the naivete is just deep.
	It's really deep.
	I mean, the whole YouTube comment thing is outrageous.
	And I think I kind of like to silence their voice when they think that they can come upon your platform and use your platform to voice their opinion or whatever the case is from...
	You know what I'm saying?
	Dealing with the comments and things like that.
	I had a pastor comment on one of my videos the other day and he just was kind of shooting me down or whatever.
	But I just responded like, why did the pastor feel the need to come on my channel and not show self-control and actually want to come on and make his voice heard?
	He's like a pastor of a church, but he had to come to my channel and voice his opinion.
	I was like, you didn't show self-control.
	You need to practice that.
	But it shows you, man.
	People want to get that last word in.
	Yeah, it's just their problem.
	There's a lot of disturbed people.
	I mean, it's understandable living like we do.
	People are being lied to by their governments constantly.
	I mean, you know, a big hurdle I've said in the past is, you know, if a person isn't ready to accept the notion that their government is lying to them on a regular basis, then there's no way in hell they're going to, you know, understand stuff that we're talking about.
	You know, that's a first hurdle.
	You have to understand that the people around you in these institutions Have been fed lies their whole lives as well.
	And their sense of self, their sense of security is lodged in those institutions.
	So they're gonna lie to you because it's their life and death struggle to just, you know, keep their ego intact, I suppose.
	You know, there's a lot of steps on the road to awakening.
	And enlightenment, actually.
	So this is what we're on, a road to enlightenment.
	And this is all part of it.
	I agree, Carrie.
	I'm going to go through the phone lines here.
	We do have a caller here.
	Caller from California.
	Who are we speaking with?
	Caller from California.
	Can you hear me?
	Okay.
	Maybe not.
	Anyway, if anybody wants to call in, the phone lines are open.
	We got a few minutes left.
	So if you have a question and you want to join the chat, make sure you go ahead and do that.
	Talking about the ETs and all of this stuff.
	And so you say you don't recommend people going out there and trying to make contact, right?
	Don't do that.
	Well, what I'm saying is that if you try to call ships down, literally, the ships are often gray ETs, and the grays are, a lot of them are very service to self.
	Now, there are some positive, more positive, even recovering grays, I guess, but it's going to be a few and far between.
	So, you know, if it's like First of all, a lot of the beings that are on the positive side that will try to contact you will contact you because you're ready and you have an openness.
	It's not like you have to sit there and pray for them to show up.
	They'll just be there.
	It's kind of like understanding that communication is a two-way street.
	And you don't have to, you know, I don't know.
	It's kind of like you don't have to...
	Do anything.
	You just have to be.
	And these things will come into your midst.
	It's more difficult to stop communication with the various beings and ETs and ghosts and you name it than it is to initiate it.
	Because we're part of this incredible...
	You know, it's just...
	We're communicators.
	It's all about communication.
	We're telepathic.
	We're psychic.
	It's all out there.
	It's right here.
	It's not, you know, miles away.
	It's not called down a ship because, you know, to have them come visit you because why?
	You know, so you can walk on a ship and say you did.
	It's not about that.
	You know, it's not a...
	You know, like going on a Ferris wheel or a roller coaster.
	It's not about that.
	You know, it's a much more normal thing.
	And, you know, if you are for, you know, if you are a Leo line, you know, then the cat beings will be attracted and you will be already part of a cat being network.
	And, you know, so on and so forth.
	And if you're related to the rays, well, yeah, they're going to probably show up somewhere or somehow.
	And, you know, if your family line has been infiltrated and so on and so forth, if you volunteered, you know, and don't remember that you did to be messed with.
	You know, in the end, as far as I'm concerned, whether it's AI or it's another being or whatever it is, our spirit, our soul is being given the challenge of understanding that we can surmount all of it.
	It doesn't matter if they enhance you.
	In the end of the day, you're still going to be your consciousness, and your consciousness is going to interact with whatever that package is.
	It may have more difficulty making direct contact with you.
	You may be more interfered with.
	But again, this will be a choice.
	What we need to do, in my view, is understand the power of spirit and the power of soul to transform Really, to transcend all of it.
	So that's kind of what it's all about.
	It's like educating yourself.
	You know, I think of like Quentin Tarantino and all his movies and a lot of these super violent movies where they just are killing people over and over again and all this kind of stuff.
	They're like children that want to believe that death is the end.
	They want to prove to themselves that death is not the end, so they just kill people over and over and over again.
	Humans are kind of like that in their movies and in their lives in some ways.
	You can't kill the soul.
	It's eternal.
	You can't kill the spirit.
	It's part of the creator.
	We're all part of that.
	You can't kill it.
	When humans realize you can't kill it, it's just going to Take another form and come back again.
	They'll stop killing each other.
	They'll stop killing anything because it's not going to work.
	It doesn't work.
	That's good.
	That's a good way to look at that, man.
	And, you know, the Kill Bill franchises and all the death and destruction out there.
	They're almost trying to cope with their own mortality, essentially.
	What they feel to be trapped in that body and this fear of death and fear of dying.
	A couple more calls here.
	We'll jump to, we got a caller calling from Michigan.
	Who we speaking with?
	This is all it is from Michigan.
	What's up, Truth Seeker?
	Hi, Kerry.
	Hey, what's going on, brother?
	Hey, man, I want to say nice video, brother.
	Your new video was awesome, bro.
	Thank you so much.
	I had to take this synchronicity that seems to be happening and take a chance to call in and say hi to Carrie, who is one of my biggest influences in just this area.
	Thank you so much, Carrie, for everything you do.
	You truly are a warrior for this community.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate that.
	The only question I had was just on bringing it back a little bit to Greer and the abductions and stuff like that.
	Of course, nothing's all positive, nothing's all negative.
	But does she think that some of the abductions are from the secret space program or branches of that, and if that continues, and that some of the abductions that are accounted for could be the secret space program?
	And yeah, I was just curious about her thoughts on that.
	Well, yeah, actually, that's what a MyLab is.
	A military abduction would be the secret space program abducting you, and absolutely.
	It gets pretty interesting when we start talking about that with the MyLab.
	For anybody who's never heard that term, it's military-induced abductions, right?
	Is that the correct terminology?
	Sounds about right.
	Close enough.
	Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
	So, brother, thanks for calling All It Is.
	I have a song coming out with him shortly.
	It's going to be on his next project.
	So, yeah, man, thanks for checking in with me.
	Got another caller here from Central Coastal California.
	Who are we speaking with?
	I'm going to go by the name of Michael on this call, if that's okay.
	That's fine.
	What's going on, Michael?
	Yeah, I just want to say hi to Carrie.
	I got the opportunity to meet Carrie in person in Cottonwood several months ago at a conference.
	She was one of the first people that I followed several years ago when I first started doing my own personal research.
	I just want to say that I support Carrie 100%.
	We've never actually had a sit-down conversation.
	I hope to actually meet her and talk to her possibly even tomorrow because I'm in Los Angeles right now.
	I just finished with the Conscious Life Expo.
	I just want to make a comment that anyone's listening that I have a lot of compassion and empathy for Carrie because I'm a researcher, and I see the political situation.
	I see where certain people's information is suppressed, I'll say.
	You're not invited to the party unless you're bringing the same Kool-Aid that everybody else is drinking.
	If you have a Kool-Aid that's just a little too intense for maybe certain people to deal with, or maybe there's an organization out there, I don't know what three letters we want to apply to them, but there are definitely, and I'm 100% confident about this, there are groups out there That are spreading disinformation and trying to suppress the real truth because they want to give us this disclosure.
	But in my opinion, it's kind of a fake disclosure.
	And what I mean by that is there's much more important information other than just flying saucers flying in the air.
	So they want to feed us this little flying saucer scenario.
	But what Carrie's discovered, and she's traveled the world, she's talked to people that actually, when I listened to her interviews, It helps me immensely because it helps put the puzzle together, so I suggest strongly anybody that's doing their own research, you need to include Carrie Cassidy's words in your portfolio of research.
	Yep, 100%.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, Michael, you have a question?
	Is there any possibility before I hang up here?
	Carrie, I've been tweeting with you, but I didn't have a chance to follow up.
	But if I'll send you a tweet after this conversation, if there's any chance I can meet with you while I'm here in Los Angeles, I'm going to go to the UFO Congress in a day or two.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay, it's possible.
	We'll see.
	We can talk, but I understand that you're very busy and you've got to be careful who you spend your time with.
	I totally respect that.
	Okay, thank you.
	All right, Michael, thanks for calling, brother, as you'll be known on this phone call.
	Another caller from Central Colorado.
	Who are we speaking with?
	Hey, what's up, True Seeker family?
	This is Matty.
	Matty, what's going on?
	Hey, how's it going, brother?
	I just wanted to come out, reach out to Carrie Cassidy, and thank her so much for being part of this community.
	We need more people that are like-minded and open-minded and can make their own decisions.
	I had a quick question for her.
	It's considering back when Project Camelot first came out, she had a thing on there where she was interviewing a lot of super soldiers from all over the country.
	It was about Ten years, maybe seven years ago.
	And I had a question about a gentleman named Max Spizer.
	I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing his last name right, but from what I've gathered, this guy was a super soldier and he disappeared recently.
	And people are speculating that he got murdered.
	So I kind of wanted a little bit more information from her, especially since she interviewed him and I get a little bit more depth on that.
	Sure.
	You know, I've done a lot of videos about him, actually about his death and interviewed Miles Johnston.
	I also did a lot of research and was in touch with the filmmaker who filmed his last, I think, you know, video and Was literally on the phone with him, and on the other line was the woman that witnessed his death, who died on her couch, Monica.
	And so I did some of my own research in that area.
	Max Spears was apparently quite a smart guy, and he had sort of moved from being a super soldier to being more of a whistleblower towards the end of his life.
	I think that, you know, he was killed.
	Absolutely.
	There's no doubt about it.
	There were some very nefarious things that went on with all of it.
	But the best thing to do would be to search his name on my YouTube channel to get a lot of the information on videos.
	It goes on quite extensively and I'm not the only one who researched this and so the one thing I can say that's very sad is that the woman who actually owns several magazines and I forget which I think it was I forget whether it was Poland or Czechoslovakia one of those where he was in her mansion and died she never came out and Did what she said she would do, which is say what happened.
	Now, I don't know if she'd tell the truth anyway, but it's, you know, this is, it's a mystery, definite mystery.
	And I think his mother...
	Well, it sounds like, it sounds like he did get assassinated.
	But a follow up question that real quick is I know you've, you've interviewed a couple super soldiers in your past.
	And I've also heard speculations that some of them have been faking it or maybe creating an illusion that they were super soldiers and it actually came out that they weren't.
	As far as you know, do you have any information on any of those people that Project Hemlock did interview that might possibly be faked?
	No, the people I interviewed were real.
	A lot of people misunderstand the term super soldier.
	They don't understand.
	It's kind of a slang for a soldier that's more or less altered.
	And you can be, you know, enhanced psychically.
	You can have implants in your body.
	You can be, you know, it's a transhuman sort of spectrum.
	So there can be all kinds of investments going on, etc.
	But the super soldiers I've interviewed are legitimate.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	One last question for you.
	As far as Trump's administration goes and where this country is going, what do you foresee in the near future as far as things happening in the global realm?
	I know there's a lot of people who come out and said that there will be a fake alien invasion after there's global unrest.
	I just wanted to give your quick input and opinion on that, and I'll drop call.
	Okay.
	Well, Project Bluebeam has been talked about for many, many years.
	Actually, I think it's less and less likely as time goes on, simply because, well, the ETs are here.
	I always think of it as, you know, If you're going to throw a play and, you know, all the people are already there and you're going to, you know, it's like they're not going to just sit quietly while this goes on.
	So there are so many various races visiting us and, you know, walking among us, so to speak, like Bob Dean would say, the Anunnaki walking in the halls of the Pentagon, etc.
	So I don't think it's going to be that easy for them to do a Project Bluebeam.
	You'd need a more naive project.
	I think a good thing about Camelot and a lot of the people that are out there, like Truthseeker and various people, that, you know, it's...
	If you don't know that ET is real at this point, you know, you've had your head in the sand for God knows how long.
	So, I mean, this is my perspective, you know, but Spielberg's Close Encounters was ages ago.
	So, all I can tell you is, you know, that...
	They may fake it, but it's going to be real anyway.
	So it's kind of like we don't live in an isolated bubble.
	We actually have a lot of comings and goings, and any kind of barrier to entry has been removed.
	We are really now...
	Space forward and part of this community out there.
	And it's like a free-for-all for all intents and purposes here on planet Earth and off the planet.
	So, you know, see my interviews with Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards, of the Secret Space Program to get more of just how incredible and complex this whole game is.
	But, you know, that's my...
	Okay.
	Well, thank you very much for your input, Kerry.
	I really appreciate that.
	You've been an inspiration for me since even before 2012, when I've just started waking up.
	So I appreciate that you're on with True Seeker, and you guys have a great night.
	Awesome, brother.
	Thanks for calling in.
	A pre-2012-er.
	Thanks for calling, brother.
	That's Matty calling in from the top of Pinecrest, as it says here.
	Thanks for calling in, brother.
	Alright, I'm going to try to go back to this call in California.
	Carl from California, are you with us?
	Yes, I am.
	Can you hear me?
	Yes.
	You have a question for Kerry?
	Hello?
	Um, I'm actually, no, I'm just listening right now.
	Thank you though.
	Alright, yeah man, thanks for listening.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Awesome.
	It's all, I can't lie, I always get scared of taking the calls because I don't have a call screener anymore, but it's always like you get the people calling in, cursing, and screaming.
	So we've been lucky tonight.
	Maybe that's the last call.
	I think we're good.
	So there's a question in the chat from a good friend of mine who watches the show.
	He's a supporter.
	Adam Starseed Bay.
	And he's trying to call.
	He's having some problems calling.
	But he says, ask her what she knows.
	And this is always his go-to question for a lot of guests.
	He wants to get to the bottom of this.
	Ask her what she knows about Antarctica and why it is such a protected and sacred place.
	Well, I know lots of bits and pieces about Antarctica.
	Probably no one knows the full story except the people that are running the place.
	I can say that I have been told by a deep source that Antarctica is what it is in part because it is kind of impossible to get there without Going certain ways and through New Zealand, etc., etc.
	So you can be tracked and it's also a very forbidding kind of environment, at least on the surface.
	You know, you don't get into the sort of natural part of it if you don't go sort of under the ice and so on.
	And so it's like the perfect place to go, I'm told, for ETs and humans to meet where they won't be surveilled by any Enemies of that group that is running that place.
	So it's also apparently tracking incoming objects from the South Pole, if I understand it.
	The telescopes down there have a good view of our solar system and incoming and outgoing traffic.
	So Solar Warden, I'm sure, is orchestrated in large part from there.
	Yeah, it's a huge mixed bag.
	I mean, watch my interview with William Tompkins to get the 411 on a lot of what's going on in Antarctica, how it factored in the secret space program from day one.
	We had also a witness who was an escapee from New Berlin down there, and he was talking about the crazy stuff going on down there.
	You know, and so on.
	So, like I said, it's just another good secret place for them to have.
	I mean, there's so many of them.
	But there does seem to be some kind of command and control center down there.
	Can't say exactly, you know, much more about it than that.
	But, you know, it seems to be the case.
	And I think it's run by an off-planet civilization for the most part.
	I do think that...
	John Kerry went to report down there and various other leaders have done so at strategic moments in our history.
	One person I found out recently that was involved in the Kennedy assassination, for example, went down there during that time.
	So this has been going on quite a long time.
	And of course, the Nazis were very involved and have a base down there and so on.
	Has Carrie Cassidy got into Flat Earth?
	Well, I have written something about it, so I guess if you search under Flat Earth on my website, you can find it.
	But I'll basically say my philosophy about that, which is that, in a sense, we live in a hologram anyway, and we are 3D moving into 4D. My dog is saying hello.
	Oh, he's beautiful.
	I finally get a chance to see him.
	Yeah, someone said I should show my dog because she's a puppy, but she's learning.
	So anyway, and so what was I saying?
	Flat Earth.
	Flat Earth.
	And so it's, you know, even Ashayana Dean talks about these plates and I use the word plan net.
	So a planet is a plane and it's a net.
	It captures people.
	It captures you.
	You're captured on by the plan that you live on.
	And it's a plan.
	It's a net with a plan and it's a plane.
	So anyway, there's this aspect of 4D coming into 3D at this time.
	And 4D is a horizontal, endless plane.
	It's the way it's visualized.
	And so...
	This is what we're moving into.
	We're moving out of 3D, in my view, and very much into 4D more and more.
	And that's why we're dealing with so many of the beings from 4D. And 4D is all about group-to-group interaction.
	So I think what's happening is that people are kind of, you know, we live in a hologram anyway.
	Nothing is really solid here.
	We are spirit first, material second.
	So it's important to understand that what appears physically, you know, solid, like a table, this table, if you can vibrate at the right speed, you can go in between these and actually, you know, go through the table.
	So, you know, it's like men who stare at goats, etc.
	So I understand all the weird stuff that goes on.
	You know, I have heard about it and looked into it.
	And even this latest thing with Elon Musk in the car and how bizarre everything looks and they're showing the earth.
	And, you know, why is it circling constantly?
	I thought it was on the way to Mars.
	Why doesn't it just drive there straight?
	And, you know, there are so many weird things that they lie to us about.
	I'm with everyone on that.
	And I can say that one of the things is, you know, when they show you, like in Antarctica, they show you a flag that's supposed to go every so often and then all of a sudden the camera breaks and then they don't show you anymore.
	I mean, this goes on constantly.
	So yes, they're hiding stuff.
	Do we live in a flat earth?
	No.
	I believe that the spiral, you know, the circle, the sort of the dimensional, in this dimension, we live on a round circle, a globe, so to speak.
	And, you know, our head is a globe.
	We're You know, this is kind of how it works.
	There are the basics, the platonic solids, etc.
	So I don't think flat Earth is exactly what it is.
	You know, but I do think that there are lies about what's being shown to us and what isn't and why we can't see certain things in space and why you never see the stars, you know, when you're in a spaceship and All this kind of weird stuff.
	My answer to that is, of course, that there are ET craft, gigantic ones, that we are so not alone, etc.
	But I see it in a more dimensional way, I think would be the best way to explain it.
	I don't see it as...
	You know, as far as I'm concerned, these walls and everything around us is an illusion anyway.
	You know, I'm very much a believer in the sort of, I guess you'd call it, you know, the Eastern philosophy.
	Yeah, hermetic principles, vibration, things like that.
	And who cares, you know, in the end?
	I mean, you know, I realize that.
	Marginalize your fan base over flat earth.
	No, it's a game.
	If it It works for you to think of it that way, to kind of get into the 4D mindset and to think of it that way.
	I think that's what's happening to people's minds.
	I really do.
	That's why it's come back to the 4.
	I do too.
	Love it.
	There's another question here, and this is kind of a two-part question, one for this person, one for me.
	It says, ask if the aliens that people see on hallucinogenic trips are real.
	Serious question.
	Like you take in tribal ceremony.
	So my question is, are these entities that people are interacting with, do you think they're real?
	Number two, have you had a ayahuasca ceremony or psilocybin mushroom encounter?
	Yes, I think they're real.
	Well, I can say that I can't go into a lot of detail, but I did live in Woodstock, New York, for a little while and got involved in the music business there when I was quite young.
	And I was staying in a caretaking a house on a hill in the town of Woodstock, the real Woodstock.
	And Sky, stop it.
	So, and something visited me there.
	And I had been given a, I think it was some kind of peyote button thing.
	And, you know, I don't do, I haven't done a lot of drugs in my life, but that was one time when someone said I would try it.
	You know, when I was young, I tried it.
	And there was this really kind of horrible green bean that I woke up and was like trying to You know, get on top of me or something.
	And I like screamed and, you know, it disappeared.
	So I think they're real.
	You know, I think these...
	You know, it's reptilians.
	There are a lot of reptilians are totally interdimensional beings.
	They're going into the fourth dimension, you know, and they're coming here.
	They can only be here temporarily.
	On the other hand, some of them have been, you know, going in and out of this dimension forever.
	And, you know, and I think if you look at the work at Graham Hancock, you'll see that he was very much into ayahuasca and had visitation and so on.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they're as real as anything else.
	They're as real as we are.
	What does that mean?
	I like that.
	What kind of dog do you have?
	Oh, she's called a Swiss Shepherd, and I researched to decide what kind of dog to get.
	And she's like a shepherd, but not as heavily built.
	Bone structure, and she's often used in police work in the UK. They're very beautiful and lovely and extremely intelligent.
	I have a wolf and husky mix and it looks a lot similar to yours.
	And it was funny because you said her name was Sky, right?
	Mine's named Star.
	So it's actually Hoshi, which is Chinese for Star.
	So that's interesting.
	Looks a lot like them.
	So, well, I should probably get going.
	You said this is drawing to close?
	Yes, yes.
	One last question.
	What does the Jaguar mean to you?
	We always see the iconic Project Camelot Jaguar.
	What does that mean to you?
	I used to write poetry and rock and roll songs and Jaguar is a song that I wrote and co-produced with one of my ex-husband, actually, who's a rock and roller.
	Let's see.
	What can I tell you?
	The Jaguar, I didn't even know it when I wrote the lyrics.
	I hadn't really researched it.
	It came to me sort of in a vision, and I got the whole set of lyrics all together and everything.
	So if you listen.
	But it's basically an interdimensional portal, and it symbolizes that to the South American culture.
	Yes, yes.
	Wow.
	Yeah, definitely.
	And especially when it's dealing with, like we're talking about the ayahuasca, they talk about going into those realms and encountering the jaguar beings.
	And I love big cats, so.
	Yeah, beautiful.
	Well, Carrie Cassidy, thank you so much.
	I enjoyed spending this time with you.
	We have to do it again sometime soon.
	My hat's off to you.
	Thank you so much.
	If you want to plug your work for, if there's anybody out there who have no idea who you are, if you want to plug your work where people can check out Project Camelot in your work, You can go to projectcamelotportal.com, projectcamelot.tv, or projectcamelot.org.
	We've had to have more than one URL because in some countries we're being blocked.
	We specialize with whistleblowers from above top secret and secret space.
	So visit my website and watch my videos.
	I've got like 600 or it's closer to 700 videos now on YouTube.
	I've got a massive channel, 56 million or 57 million viewers, unique views.
	And I think my subscribers are somewhere around 186 or 7,000.
	Good stuff, Keri.
	Quick question.
	Is your channel backed up?
	Do you have your videos on an external hard drive or somewhere saved?
	Of course.
	Yes.
	Awesome.
	Thanks for hanging out with me, Keri.
	I appreciate you.
	All right.
	I appreciate you and take care.
	Thank you so much.
	Have a good night.
	Thanks.
	All right.
	Bye-bye.
	Yes.
	Carrie Cassidy, ladies and gentlemen.
	The Carrie Cassidy.
	I enjoyed being a guest on her show.
	She had me on.
	If you guys have not seen that episode, go to her channel and watch the video.
	Type in True Seeker on her search and you'll see that interview that we did there.
	Enjoyed talking to her.
	Like I said, there's a few people, and if you want me to go down the list, I probably can, but there's probably 10 people who are just I'm influential in my life and I'm doing what I'm doing now.
	The music and the podcast and the research and have given my life to pursue this work and this material.
	Carrie Cassidy is one of them.
	She is definitely one of them.
	Project Camelot.
	Many of you guys who are hanging out now in the chat room, you guys know because she has made an impact on your life.
	So with that being said, there wouldn't be a True Seeker podcast.
	There wouldn't be many other little shows popping up and people speaking with confidence on these type of subjects if there wasn't a Project Camelot.
	As far as I'm concerned, you know, David Wilcock and many of these people who...
	They kind of used Project Camelot to be propelled with their careers, essentially, to where they are now.
	Because that was just a huge platform when there wasn't a whole plethora of shows to watch.
	Now, if you're watching this on YouTube, there's probably a ton of videos going down the side, you guys watching this live, of different videos you can watch concerning spirituality and aliens.
	And everybody's an expert on the subject.
	But I'm telling you, just a few years ago, there wasn't many people doing it.
	Carrie Cassidy was one of them.
	My hat is off to her.
	Thank her and Bill Ryan for the work that they've contributed and the work that she is still doing.
	She's still going.
	It's not over yet.
	So, Carrie Cassidy, thank you.
	One thing she was talking about, the Elon Musk thing and seeing the SpaceX or whatever in that car.
	That thing looks like CGI and it's not good at all.
	And I think he released a statement and he says that...
	The reason it looks fake is because it's real.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Because it looks fake, therefore, that must mean that it's real.
	Because they could have did a better job, right?
	With better CGI and better stuff like that.
	I don't know.
	That's insane if you haven't seen it.
	It doesn't look real.
	I'll say that.
	But it is interesting to note.
	Now, I know I'm going to mess this up, but one of the Apollo missions where they were supposed to pan back and film the Earth through the window...
	It's interesting to note and there's extra footage that shows this and they admitted it but instead of pointing the camera out the window and filming the earth as they're leaving the earth supposedly, they hold up a cardboard with a hole cut in the center of it and they put that up against the window and they film the cardboard To show this perfect circle in the middle and it looked like it was the earth,
	but then at the end you can see them move the cameras away and pull the cardboard away and supposedly they admitted it.
	This is interesting.
	It's interesting.
	Why would they do these things?
	Something's going on.
	Like I said, you guys aren't an hour and 30 minutes into this podcast, into this episode if you didn't know that something was happening.
	I don't claim to be an expert.
	I don't trust many people who do, put it that way, to be an expert.
	But we know we have something.
	We have something to bring to the table.
	Kerry Cassidy has something to bring.
	I think Jordan Maxwell.
	I think Stephen Greer.
	I think all these people have something to bring to the table.
	A piece of the puzzle.
	And as we put it together, it begins to formulate a picture.
	So...
	All of this stuff interests me.
	I've had my own experiences and this is what we do.
	Truth Seeker Podcast.
	Thank you guys for hanging out with me.
	Thank you guys for supporting my work over there on Patreon.
	Every Thursday night, we are doing the roundtable discussion on the School of the Mystics.
	So anybody who's looking for community, anybody who's looking to get plugged in with what we're doing, those who are supporting on Patreon, you get access to the School of the Mystics as well.
	anywhere from a dollar a month um any to whatever you're you're supporting at you get access there so thursday nights school of the mystics 7 p.m uh if you head on over to patreon.com backslash true seeker you also get extra podcast you get my full discography
	it's like 10 plus albums of hip-hop music and esoteric spirituality everything that essentially what i've been learning from those type of research and podcasts and stuff and having in my own encounters articulating it and putting it into a song That's what I do music about.
	It's so cool that a lot of people who listen to my podcast now, there's so many new people coming on, they don't even know that I do music.
	So it's cool now that, like I said, at the beginning it was people who...
	We're fans of my music.
	They would in turn listen to the podcast just because they like the music and they like what I'm about or whatever.
	But now there's a lot of new people coming into my work and what I do simply because of the podcast.
	So all of you guys, I'm saying shalom, peace, welcome to the fold, welcome to the podcast.
	Click that subscribe button if you're on YouTube.
	Uh, also in the description, we do, uh, the podcast is on iTunes.
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	Make sure you subscribe to my channel there.
	So patreon.com backslash true secret to support.
	Um, there's a bunch of ways to support in the, um, in the description.
	And so I couldn't do this without you guys.
	I go as far to say that I wouldn't do this without you guys.
	Thank you guys for the support.
	2018 is off to a great start, man.
	We're doing big things and I appreciate each and every one of you guys With that, I'm going to say goodnight and shalom.
	Thank you for everybody hanging out in the chat room.
	All of my regular people over there, people checking us out.
	Jim Gerard, what's up, my brother?
	Yeah, I just interviewed him the other day.
	If you guys haven't seen that interview, go listen to that one.
	Christy Lee, Matty Jui, Matty, everybody over there.
	Adam Starseed, Catherine Marsh, Lil T, No Leon.
	Man, all of these familiar names holding it down for me in the chat room.
	And what's really cool is when you know you got family.
	When I was able to be interviewed on her podcast, all of you guys were in the chat over there holding it down for me on Project Camelot as well.
	So with that, I'm going to say thank you.
	Peace and shalom.
	I love each and every one of you guys with that.
	We're going to do it again.
	A lot more coming.

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