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May 11, 2017 - Project Camelot
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JO ANN RICHARDS : SPACE COMMAND - RE MARK RICHARDS
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Hi, everyone. everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am here today, or tonight, with Joanne Richards, and she is the wife of Captain Mark Richards of the Secret Space Program.
And I'm very happy to have her on the show here.
It's going to be, I'm sure, a fascinating discussion, and I'm going to get her online here so that you can say hello.
And Joanne, say hello to everyone.
Hello, everyone.
Thanks for being here.
And Joanne has been doing, well, she was doing weekly shows on my network, on my PCTV, which is my other Camelot YouTube channel.
I have two, in case some people don't know.
And it's actually been an uphill battle with that channel.
I think, Joanne, you haven't been doing a show for a while now, due to the fact that we don't have a producer on hand.
Right.
Yeah, just one of those kind of necessary items that we just don't have.
We can't afford to pay anyone and so on.
So if anyone wants to volunteer to produce your shows in the future, I'm sure you might be glad to come back on the show, right?
Definitely, definitely.
All right.
And producing isn't that hard, really.
It just requires somebody to man the controls, so to speak.
Push the buttons.
Yeah, and it's actually pretty simple.
Yeah.
For example, I'm doing it here.
Such as it is.
Okay, so, Joanne, actually, you know, other than I think you're an accountant on the side, you have a background in journalism, I know, and you are married to a very important individual, in my view.
And I think that you've also been on the circuit now Basically talking about his information and publishing it and putting it on a very interesting website called Earth Defense Headquarters and and and why don't you give yourself your own introduction?
Just you know to let people know a little bit more about you before we kind of launch into everything here All right, thank you.
Okay, so let's see.
Where do I start?
I grew up in Southern California basically and And my family moved up.
I live north of San Francisco now, but my family moved up to the San Francisco Bay Area when I was in high school.
So I finished high school there, went to college in Utah for a while, married a few different guys, um, move back to California and became a bookkeeper.
And I've been doing bookkeeping for, you know, private clients and also for different, I was an employee for a while off and on for 35 years.
Um, I have, A grown daughter and three wonderful grandchildren and they live up in Portland in Washington.
So I'm actually going to see them for Mother's Day and then next week I'll be up there working and babysitting.
So that'll be fun.
And I've been married to Mark 14 and a half years.
We've known each other since late 1997 is when we met.
And we courted for five years and then we got married.
So we've been married like 14 and a half years.
Time just flies when you're having fun.
And basically, you know, people ask me how I got into this stuff all the time.
So I grew up watching Martian movies and the sci-fi movies.
And, you know, that was all well and good and that was fun.
But never thinking, you know, I just thought that was all pretend and never thought much about it.
Then I met Mark and he started introducing me to some new information and then he started sharing with me some of the stuff that he did for the military and all of a sudden it wasn't just pretend and this is what you know real people did without everybody else knowing about it and it's like wow and then you read about this man you adore almost getting killed over and over and over again and then fighting aliens and People that aren't people.
Just a lot of weird stuff, but also learning about all kinds of wonderful topics along the way.
That's what we've been doing for 20 years.
Yeah.
Wow.
You know, he introduced me to the concept of, you know, I met psychics.
I got into the paranormal.
I know a lot now about elementals in the fairy realm.
And, you know, one day he said, why don't you go to this UFO conference?
It's down in the Bay Area.
It's like, oh, all right.
You know, let's see if anybody's talking about reptilians.
And, okay.
Yeah.
And lo and behold, you know, I heard all these fascinating speakers.
I met Richard Dolan for the first time.
And the very next year I had a booth for my nonprofit there at the conference.
And, you know, then the radio interview started and I started going to England to speak and speaking here.
So it's just kind of taken off from there.
Wonderful.
Okay, so at the moment, what I want to do is really delve into the stuff that you kind of have been covering on my channel in sort of an overview so that we can direct people to watch those shows because they're still there.
And it would be, you know, a lot of fun for them to You know, see you in action for a longer period than here, you know, where I'm going to have you, obviously, talking with me, but she's also very capable of hosting her own show, and...
And so I think that would be helpful.
So just to start out with, can you talk about what you've covered and also what you haven't covered, if you don't mind sort of detailing that very briefly, and then we can kind of try to delve into some of those topics.
In the interim and see where things are going with everything.
And also, well, we'll go from there.
But at this moment, just to keep things simple, talk about the shows that you have done and how you feel about what you've been able to put out there.
And before we get into that, can I just make a little...
I know you just put out your interview, the last interview you did with Mark, and if I could just make two comments to correct just one couple of little things that were wrong that will actually get him in trouble.
Number one, you said that he's at Vacaville Prison, which he's not.
He's at California State Prison at Solano, which is in Vacaville.
But in Vacaville, there's another prison next door, which is the hospital.
All right.
It's for people who are psychos and, you know, pedophiles and, you know, just other types of inmates, especially with a lot of mental problems.
And if people associate him with being over there, it could get him killed.
Right.
Oh, okay.
I've been talking about that for a while now.
So maybe you just noticed it.
I don't recall you letting me know that before.
So sorry for that.
We'll definitely correct that on the record.
And I know we don't know.
He is going to get moved, and we don't know if it's going to be, like, right at the same place he's at, like in one of the other yards or not.
So we're waiting to find out.
But it was more the whole Vacaville thing, because he does not reside at the hospital prison.
Yeah, well, the word hospital is not written anywhere, so perhaps there's a misconception about that.
Yeah, but it's...
Okay.
Yeah, so anyway, just a little minor thing.
No, absolutely, very important.
Okay, good enough.
So what shows have I covered?
All right, I've covered...
Pretty much anything I've gone and traveled and done and talked about, I've covered.
So we have interstellar treaty conferences.
There's two of them.
One that Mark attended as a child in 1961 in southern England.
Another one was 10 years later in 1971 in Iran.
He was actually a young adult by then.
He was on a security, he was like part of the security team that was working that conference.
And at those conferences, you have the aliens and the humans talking and discussing, do we let humans out in space?
How much technology are we going to allow them to have?
How many people can we kidnap?
How many spaceships can we sell you?
And just all communication issues and things like that.
So the first one, he was a child, and there were hundreds of species there.
The second one in Iran, there were even more species.
So just imagine the movie Men in Black and that cool, like that UN building where, you know, there were different species coming and going.
I just imagine that being somewhere, and there have been buildings like that, but...
You have a conference where you've got politicians and royalties and military leaders coming together and discussing important issues between the aliens and the humans.
So he's been at two big ones of that.
I talked about alien species...
Many different kinds, friendly and non-friendly.
I prefer to talk about the friendly ones that he's seen ever since he was a child and then the different kinds that he's been involved with in military actions and some that he's had a first contact with.
I know he's had a first contact with a particular cat species and a cute little bug species.
And I talk about, you know, why are they coming to Earth?
What are their agendas?
You know, maybe where they're from, if he's told me, you know, what their society is like, that kind of stuff.
I've also talked about, I talk about the raptors, which is one type of reptilian species that they originated here on Earth, and we talk about them a lot because he's really close to them, and They've known his dad since the early 50s, and so Mark's been around them since he was a baby.
You could say they're like a second family to him.
He's kind of like a blood brother to them.
His best friend for the longest time was a raptor that was approximately his age or a little older, but he died in combat.
Like I said, he's been around them a lot.
I know a lot about their culture and their society and how they raise their kids.
Just listening to him talk about them, you would almost, and I don't want to insult them by calling them people, but you would almost feel like you're sitting in the living room with your best friend, best human friend, sitting there just having an evening together.
But he's got some great stories, and they're great lawyers, and they're great, you know, they believe in education, and they're spiritual, and, you know, they have a vast...
A vast vampire out in space and at this time period they are our allies so it's great you know they help fund movies to get the idea that you know aliens certain aliens aren't all that bad and you know let's get to know more about the aliens and you know there are movies that they've funded in the past and there's movies that they're coming out this summer that they've helped fund so I love to talk about the raptors, obviously.
What else do I talk about?
I've talked about the elementals and the fairy realm quite a bit because it all ties together.
There's many aliens that have their own elementals.
And because my non-profit...
It encompasses many topics, so it's not just about space and the military and aliens.
We talk about cryptozoology and environmental issues and magical arts and different things that you're not going to hear about in school.
And in the mainstream media.
So we cover, and it just so happens that, you know, magical arts and science and witchcraft and paranormal and elementals have a lot to do with the aliens.
So it all makes sense for me to just have them all be important to me.
So I like talking about them all.
Oh, we've talked about several space missions that Mark's been on.
Especially, he was really active between 1976 and 1982, so I have reports of different missions that he was on, on and off planet.
Some were recovering spacecraft, but some were downright battles with invading fleets of aliens that were trying to invade the planet.
It just runs the gamut, but you also learn with him, as you've learned, Kerry, he could talk a long time about a specific topic, but his reports tend to be long and full of information about the history and the science,
so he really gets into the science of what space is like, what it's like to You know the fabric of space because it's not just flat and void out there and how to navigate in space because it isn't easy things are moving and how do you get back to back from where you started and how do you actually navigate through a wormhole and how do you go through that vertex to get into the wormhole and it's just fascinating The complexities of,
you know, having to be out in space and get safely back.
So, you know, he just brings all that to the table.
And then I always say, there's so much more he could share, but he's bound by certain military secrecy else, so he never breaks those.
But fortunately, he was under orders for different agencies and different militaries and so other groups used him and that's what he talks about or maybe he'll talk about something he was involved with but maybe not his involvement maybe he'll talk about his dad's involvement or the raptors involvement you know he will have used the raptors logs from their ships or somebody else's report so he's not he's never breaking his u.s military oaths which is fabulous I
know some people think he's crazy because he just doesn't tell all after being in prison this long, but he's a very honorable officer as you have noticed and you have commented on.
There you go.
Absolutely.
Well, that's actually a great overview.
I think that people can, you know, be fascinated by that and the thought of actually going over to my PCTV channel, which if you go to my website, you just click on channels.
I think it's a It's at the top, you know, and I have different channels.
I have two YouTube and I have two websites and so on.
So this one where Joanne was appearing is called Project Camelot TV Network.
As opposed to the normal Project Camelot TV channel, which I am broadcasting from right this minute.
So that's what's going on with that.
So in terms of what's going on with Mark right now and also your latest visit, I don't know when you saw him recently or whether he had gotten the book.
I just sent him a new book and I'm asking him to comment on certain things.
So did you happen to know whether he got that book yet?
He didn't mention it.
So I will ask him.
I'll see him Saturday before I head out of town.
Because we saw you a few weeks ago and then like...
You know, a couple weeks ago, you know, we had like less than two hours, and last week we had just shortly over two hours.
But I will ask him if he got the book, because I know you said you did send it, so I will definitely ask him if he didn't mention it.
Okay.
Mail is slow getting there, as you probably know.
Yes, plus they have to look at everything, right?
They do, they do.
Okay.
He will appreciate it.
In terms of the Secret Space Program and your understanding about what's going on, has he ever talked to you about the current events such as what's going on in North Korea, for example?
Yeah.
Yes we do because I you know I hear things and then I'll ask him and you know we were talking a lot about Syria and you know now the heat is on North Korea so I just point blank you know say well is there something somebody that's guiding what's his name in North Korea and he'll say yes and I go are the reptiles involved there and he said yes So just like Syria and Isis,
you have the reptoid stirring up trouble with the North Korea guy.
So, um, so it could get, could get hairy.
Okay, well...
Whatever you want to call it.
Yeah, no, I mean, that's really valid.
And, you know, Mark is such a great resource that, you know, it's so fun.
And a lot of people ask me the same question, so I'm going to ask you what you want to say about it.
But a lot of people cannot or they don't seem to be able to wrap their mind around the fact that he actually stays in touch with the world and that he...
You know, has intel that comes through to him and so on and so forth.
Do you want to address that?
Sure.
Number one, I mean, if you took away the fact that he still has contacts in the military, He's a voracious reader.
He has several newspaper and magazine subscriptions.
He watches the BBC News or anything that's on public, you know, the PBS stations.
I doubt he watches a lot about local news, but he really stays...
I'm in touch and listens to a lot of news.
He also has family members that live overseas, so they keep him in touch with just current events, obviously.
But what I love is he still is in contact with people active in the intelligence industry.
And no, he's not giving me names, and that's fine because they're active.
So I don't know who writes him or what, but I do know that over the years he has mentioned that he'll get letters from somebody in the Pentagon and it's sealed and the prison people are very upset.
Pissy, excuse my language, but pissy because, you know, he's getting a sealed letter that they cannot open even.
And that's like about the only thing that they can't open unless it's legal mail.
But if it's sealed from the Pentagon, they're not allowed to open it.
But he does have communications, live communications with people in the know and who are still active.
And I remember when he wrote a report about the Zagros Mountains.
And there's like a quote in there, you know, somebody's interviewing the Kurdish villagers who are coming out of the mountains, and that wasn't even an area supposedly we were fighting in.
And they were talking about the monsters, you know, raiding their villages and things like that, and then a lot of issues going on.
And I was talking about the Kurdish leaders, and I go, Mark, where did you get this information?
How do you get a quote from a Kurdish villager?
He goes, well, I know the Kurdish military person who was there involved with it.
But, oh, okay, and you're still talking.
So, you know, he has interesting friends all over the place.
I don't know who he talks to half the time.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Well, you know, he must have a fascinating correspondence, list of correspondence.
And, well, what you haven't touched on, which I am very aware of, and I'm sure you are, is, you know, his raptor friends and his contacts within that, as well as other beings that he is getting information from.
And also, if he is, you know, he is quite psychic.
And so he is...
Tapping into things going on around the planet and being aware of things, getting downloads like many of us do.
So whether you're at home in your house and getting a download or you're in a correctional institute, so to speak, or whatever you want to call that, this is the stuff that can come through to you anywhere.
So he's also getting that sort of thing.
Yeah, and I don't know how that works.
I mean, I don't know how he knows so much about what they might or might not be involved with these days.
And if I knew and I wasn't supposed to tell you, I'm not going to tell you.
Sure.
Just know I'm a really good military wife.
But there's a lot of things that he does or knows that I don't know.
And a lot of that is because he can't tell me and is to keep me safe.
You know, I know he knows, because he's the one who tells me, well, they funded such and such movies.
Like, okay.
And actually, you know, when I went and saw Jurassic World, for example, I loved that movie.
But if you look at the credits, I mean, a lot of it is Malaysian or whatever, but if you read very carefully in some of the credits, there are some weird names that are kind of human names, and they're not really Malaysian names, but it's You can just tell a raptor has tried to, you know, come up with a human name.
Because it's kind of a funny name.
But it's not a Malaysian name.
It's like, oh, look at there!
That must be one of your friends.
So I don't really know how he knows what the raptors might or might not be up to.
But, you know...
It's not for me to know, apparently.
Okay, yeah, absolutely.
And you yourself are quite intuitive as well.
And you're also, you know, I don't know, have you done any shows on the Elementals?
I did a few, yes.
And sometimes they just pop into the topic.
They're involved with some of the missions and other reports.
Like when I talked about the Iran conference, for example, the Elementals were very...
They had to open up a vortex so that the guy...
There was like a...
There was a neutron star, a neutron bomb coming towards the planet.
So the security guys had to go out and get it, either destroy it or move it another direction.
So the Elementals got together at Gobekli Tepe Opened up the portal, or one of them that's there, you know, the old portal that's there, and there was some kind of alien species that helped them, like, attach the wormhole, so everybody's working together, and then the guys in their aircraft, you know, they fly towards that vortex.
Well, the vortex is, like, right over the ground.
I don't know, feet, inches, I don't know.
But it's like, in your head when you're reading this, it's like, oh my gosh, they're just going to crash their planes into the ground and then that's it.
But they go into a vortex and go out the wormhole and go, you know...
And play military heroes.
But so the elementals do help in a lot of the missions and conference things that I did report on.
So that's kind of fun to always bring them in.
Okay.
Now, in terms of the way, what Mark is hearing on the grapevine, is he hearing that He could be released in the future, in the not-so-distant future.
Is he hearing...
Because, you know, we had that thing where Simon Parks was talking about it and so on.
But I'm curious whether Mark himself, on his grapevine, does he ever get that?
You know, there's a couple of aspects of that.
One, if you think about what Simon said...
The thing is to have a huge disclosure because I think you said Simon thought maybe there would be something that would happen between March and June that would Create or whatever, there'd be this huge disclosure project and somehow that would enable MI5 or 6 to help get Mark out.
But to have a disclosure incident that huge where you just couldn't help the aliens, maybe they have to come help us or something...
I mean, that would be huge and violent.
Yeah, no, I don't think, that isn't what Simon Parks was saying.
My understanding, anyway, my understanding was, at least when he talked to me, now he could have revised that, you know, subsequently, and I wouldn't know about it, but what he said to me was simply that there would be some kind of disclosure, and I don't know if the window has now been changed from, you know, June to But initially he said if there is whatever this kind of disclosure was, which I don't know what it was going to be, then Mark would be released.
But the indicator from that is not so much that it would actually necessarily happen.
You know, it's important to understand who are also Simon Parks' contacts.
And on the one he's got his own downloads and contact with certainly the The mantid beings, but on top of it, he has his, what you might say, contacts within the Illuminati who are telling him information.
Now, if they tell him wrong information, then he gets wrong information.
But for whatever reason, he volunteered this information to me.
I certainly didn't expect him to say that to me.
But, you know, so it was an unexpected, interesting piece of information.
And It was it was also a vote of confidence in the direction of Mark because just to say that just to say that means that he's being taken seriously and that you know that is a validation of who he is you know and that Simon is getting that kind of information coming to him specifically about Mark is important and you know it's important to certainly people that are following Mark story as well as yourself obviously
And, you know, Mark himself and so on.
And there are these kinds of validations like I got, as I mentioned, on my recent interview with Jack Sarfati, saying, out of the blue, you know, all I just said was, you know, you're aware of Mark Richards and his story.
And he basically said...
Oh, yes, he's a political prisoner, isn't he?
I mean, that was his answer, you know.
And so that indicates that Jack Sarfati is, you know, quite a well-known business, for those who don't know.
And that was a great validation as well.
So there's little ripples out there, I would say.
I would say that somehow the word is getting around.
Whatever Mark has done, however he's conducted himself, And you and me, somehow this kind of a wave of recognition is starting to go and to roll around Mark's name.
And whereas initially when I started interviewing him, you know...
Yeah, and people would act like, you know, like I was out of my mind, basically, for interviewing this person.
But I think more and more he's getting some respect out there, which is great to know and hear.
So, you know, that's exciting.
And to know that the one time I did meet Simon, a couple of trips to England back, he...
I mean, he knew exactly who we were.
It's like, wow, I've never talked to you before.
That's pretty cool that you know who I am.
So that was fascinating that he knew.
And I think it was you who pointed me to an article in Veterans Today.
That Preston James had written, and there's a couple of mentions about Mark in there.
Yes, that's right.
That's exactly right.
And, you know, he didn't go into any real detail there, but it was still valuable, and Preston James is a very good guy and very well-meaning.
So he's been writing articles on this subject for a long time for Veterans Today.
And Veterans Today reaches a huge audience, even a mainstream audience, that you and I don't reach at the moment.
And so that's, you know, a good thing as well.
So...
So I was going to say, the one thing that...
I guess there's two mentions of Mark in that article, and I only read one so far, but in the one...
It's in the same paragraph as Corey Goode has mentioned.
And then there's like a line about either their memories getting washed or whatever.
And I do want to point out, to my knowledge, there's only been one time where Mark has had his...
He's done the mind wash and that was when he was a kid after that England conference.
He's not one to let people do that to him.
He doesn't let you hypnotize him.
He's not going to be hypnotized and he's not going to be mind controlled.
He's not going to let you mind wash him.
Yeah, he's quite, you know, he's, well, first of all, he's a captain.
I think that there's some weight that goes with that as well.
But he's also the kind of guy that you don't want to mess with.
So, which is, you know, very interesting in and of itself.
So, in terms of The interaction with the raptors.
Have you ever seen a raptor?
Because he talks about they're going to be on tour here in this Jurassic...
I don't know if it's called Jurassic World or what it's called.
It's T-Rex World.
Oh, yeah.
And I don't know if they're actively hiding themselves among the models or whatever.
But there are certainly raptors in that show.
And then I think they were involved with a couple of years back.
They were in another big production and it might have been like dinosaur walking dinosaurs or whatever.
But it was I went inside like it was used to be called the Arco Arena up in Sacramento.
I don't know if it's still called that, but it was cool.
It was like going through history, the dinosaur history through the ages, and it was fascinating, but I kept thinking that there would actually be some raptors in the raptor suits, but I think they might have been nearby.
You couldn't tell that they were actually in the actors' suits that day, but I think they were probably hanging out nearby.
So you just never know.
I mean, I know a few of them were in Jurassic World, in some of, like, the running scenes and stuff.
But, you know, again, we have these treaties where there's not supposed to be open communication with civilians, so they really try not to be seen by people.
But, you know, they do, like...
They do like to go to big conferences or big like Comic Con and science type of conferences where a lot of people are in costumes and a lot of different aliens do that.
They'll either wear a hooded outfit or maybe if they're humanoid and they're tall they just look like they fit in.
But you know sometimes they'll go to these fun type conferences or events and people think their costume is fabulous.
Okay, well, you know, I still think that being a raptor is very hard to hide.
I do too.
And no, I've never seen one in person.
Okay.
But I'd love to sit down and have tea with some of Mark's friends.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I have a kind of a strange question for you.
Okay.
Now, we know, you know, I'm going to kind of treat you like Mark, and then if you don't know the answer, obviously you can get out of it because you're not him.
But nonetheless, this is something I actually have not asked him, and it occurs to me that What we're talking about here are reptilians are what they call expert geneticists and I am wondering if the raptors have continued to be geneticists because they are related to the Draco and the reptilians in essence and the original dinosaurs and all of that.
So did they continue with a program of You know, genetically engineering even their own race, but also trying to, you know, work with humans to create a sort of a raptor slash human type thing.
Do you know anything about that, or has Mark ever talked about that?
No, he's never talked about it.
No, I don't know, but I, you know, I always say they're very proud to be dinosaurs, and there are only 20 genetic markers from us anyway, so...
The more elite of them will have operations on their voice box so they can speak human languages, but he's never really talked about them going through any genetic modification To any great detail.
I don't know if they do to make them stronger warriors or whatever.
That kind of thing.
So we've never really discussed that.
They're just naturally, because the raptors that he knows originated here on this planet.
The Dracos did not.
They originated in space.
The Reptoids used to be raptors after the big asteroid 65 million years ago.
Some of the raptors that stayed behind, you know, survived and evolved into the more human-looking raptoids.
But most of the ones out in space that originated there, I don't know that they're related to our dinosaurs, but the raptors do have an extensive empire out in space now.
Okay, well, I guess...
That's a good question.
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah, it wasn't so much...
One of the things that the various races do, of course, is they have trouble maintaining contact with 3D, with Earth.
And so they are working on creating what are in essence bodies or vehicles that they can then inhabit that are more conducive to this environment.
And that's one part of that story.
And the other part has to do with the fact that they also, according to Mark at least, and I find this a little bit Kind of hard to understand has to do with a lot of the ET races we're dealing with are able to go what we call interdimensional and that is a trait with the reptoid certainly and Therefore,
they're not always here, here, and therefore they can hide very easily from humans.
And so there's this sort of this thing.
Now, in my experience with Mark, he has said that the raptors are actually here, here, and they don't go interdimensional.
And that just seems a little strange to me.
But if it's true, it's true.
And yet, at the same time, the only way they can hide from us, because they have relatively large bodies, and, you know, it would have to be a mind-wiping scenario with humans.
Well, actually, you know, they're not that huge.
Because if you look at...
If you look at, like, the Jurassic Park Velociraptors, and even the one in Jurassic World, they were pretty big.
But they're not, like, big like a Tyrannosaurus Rex, or they're not, you know, huge.
No, no, no, they're not like that.
But still, you know, they're bigger than dogs.
True, true.
But if they're running in their T-shape, At the height of their hip, it might not be more than like three or four feet.
So, you know, they're not necessarily much taller than Mark.
I mean, they would be if they stood up on all, not all fours, if they stood up upright, they would be pretty tall.
But they are here here.
They are here in their physical sense.
They just don't live above ground when they're here.
There are treaties, so they're not supposed to be openly interacting with us.
So they're not running around during the day necessarily shopping.
If they want to go shopping, they'll rent the mall for the night after everybody's closed, after everybody's left.
And they will do that, but they don't openly go out where there's a lot of humans.
But they are definitely here, here.
So...
Okay, so not long ago you...
Well, I'm not sure how long ago it was actually now because time flies when you're having fun and I'm traveling all the time on and off and so are you.
But I know you went to England not that long ago.
Last fall.
Okay, and when you're there, did you have any interaction, any, number one, that you're able to tell us about, number one, with any of his family members, and or were you approached and warned in any way when you were in England in any, you know, have they tried to mess with you at all, I guess is the question.
No, I have not had any interaction with his family members.
I do think that...
When I go to speak, either at Probe or at UFO Academy, they're in Watford.
I think people that are associated with his family come to hear me speak, but they don't introduce themselves.
But he hears about it.
And they're not always happy with everything I'm saying, but, you know, it is what it is.
Nobody has openly threatened me there, but one year I came back, and after I'd been speaking at Probe, and he said, oh, you know, there was an Interpol agent there checking on you.
I go, oh, who was that?
It was the geeky French guy.
I go, well, you know, Jill might have known who that was because she was kind of stacking my booth and paying attention.
I was just concentrating on when it was time to give my talk type of thing.
And one of the times I was there, my friend and I went to the Glastonbury tour, And we hiked up the tour, and it was wonderful, and you could experience the vortex there, and that's all very wonderful.
And all of a sudden, I noticed there was this guy who intuitively I knew was out of place, but very handsome, kind of older guy like me, all black, like black jeans, black pullover, you know, nice touristy camera, very nice-looking.
But he was by himself, and all of a sudden my weird radar just went, eh, gotta go.
And I told my friends, if my time on the hill is done, I've gotta leave now.
And I wasn't, he didn't threaten me, but you could just tell sometimes, you know, when the person, they're checking on you.
So we left.
And that was fine.
I have been to England and we've seen UFOs and that's always been fun.
And when I'm with my my one very psychic friend, she's a trans medium.
We always have wonderful elemental experiences.
So it and paranormal experiences.
So it's.
It's fabulous when she and I can, you know, run around and play together because we do have some great experiences.
Well, you would be a riot to come on our tour.
We're doing a small, me and Maria Wheatley are doing a tour for eight days of the show.
Ancient sites in England in the beginning of June, and I'm hoping for warm weather.
Maybe a false hope in England, but nonetheless.
And so, yeah, you would be a lot of fun to have along on that.
Wish we could fly you over there.
But I also remember that you were told, I guess I can say this, I don't think it's against the rules to say, you were told this year not to go to England, correct?
Mark felt it would be better that I did not travel abroad this year.
Yes.
So I don't know what that might mean for people.
I don't know and it might be something as simple as he and I need to work on his case more and if I'm running around traveling we can't do that.
So and to answer a question you were talking about asking about his release earlier and Who knows?
There's legislation that's slowly being passed here that might make it possible for him to reduce his sentence down to life without parole.
And this would just affect a lot of guys, so there might be a point where we could just get a life sentence and then maybe be eligible for parole hearings.
There's things that are slowly moving towards that direction.
I know he wants to work more on his case.
You know, we come and go.
We ebb and flow working on his case.
And there's people behind the scenes, other family members who are working, you know, helping us with that a little bit.
But there's people doing research on what's possible and what's doable.
Because, you know, we can't, it would cost millions of dollars to, like, just try and go back to court.
Just for a retrial or whatever.
And you have to have loopholes in the case.
It's very complicated.
So we're hoping and trying that, you know, just the political situation here in California with everything being so crowded and the prisons being really crowded, we're just hoping things will move just in a natural order so that it just would make sense to the government here to let some of the old guys out.
So, in your travels, though, you are not, correct me if I'm wrong, you are not approached by military people, I take it.
You know, nobody is really overt with you.
No, no.
Yeah, that's very interesting how they kind of keep away.
Yeah, I have had people say, oh, you know, I used to be in military intelligence.
Like, oh, okay.
And usually if they were once, sometimes they still are.
And you know that every time there's a conference going on, there's usually somebody there.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody, you know, and it's fun to kind of figure out who that is.
But I've been very fortunate.
I mean, over the years, when I've done research or I've gone to different places to film things or just do research, little errands he sent me on, there's often somebody showing up that I know is there to check on me, even though they act like they're just a tourist and they're taking pictures, that kind of thing.
And, like, one of my very first trips to England, yeah, my first trip, I went to an old air base that he used to fly in and out of and now it's just an industrial park and they've got a cute little museum and I had to write ahead and get permission to you know make an appointment to go to the museum and of course the day I went there it was pouring down rain and the the parking lot was starting to flood okay I had to have an appointment and all of a sudden you know while I'm there you know about to watch a film this other guy showed up And,
you know, oh, I used to be stationed here.
My wife and I are here on vacation.
I just want to come.
It's like, huh, no, you're not.
And again, my weird radar went up.
And that's before it was better than it is now.
Or that's before it was as good as it is now.
But, you know, just these weird little things.
But thankfully, nobody overtly has come and gotten in my face.
But, you know, I always feel very protected.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
Good to know.
Now, in terms of the information that Mark's putting out right now, have you been hearing any things, like even, you know, when we're talking and so on, that really sort of stick out in your mind that you're thinking, well, we really should get more information on that?
Oh, yeah.
Let me throw something at you.
Maybe make it a little easier.
For example, artificial intelligence.
You know, he seems quite reticent to want to talk in detail about artificial intelligence.
And I know some of the reasons for that.
But, you know, have you...
I guess in your own travels and the way you approach him, obviously, you know, you're trying to...
On the one hand, you're his wife.
On the other hand, you are now out on the sector as sort of a spokesperson.
And so, do you try to, like, get information out of him?
You know, on your own?
And again, if it's not something he's supposed to be talking about, he won't tell me.
Okay.
And there are people behind the scenes who he stays in touch with who will tell him, no, don't go down that path or you can't talk about that yet.
But there's a couple of his reports where he talks a lot about artificial intelligence in general.
Or I remember we have a report about the raptors renting a castle in Scotland for the holidays in, let's just say, 1970 or 71.
I can't remember which year it was.
But, you know, he never just talks about the holiday celebration.
He's talking about, well, what aliens are in the area and what are they doing there?
And, oh, by the way, at this now inactive secret airbase in a rocket base in Scotland.
Oh, in one of the old hangars or one of the old whatever.
We'll just call it a hanger.
You know, there's this cool artificial intelligence being that is like, oh my gosh!
So he brings up all these things, and I'm pretty sure in the Iran conference report, it gets into a lot about artificial intelligence.
But I mean, you and he really went into it pretty deeply.
so he we haven't really talked about how that how what you know what's happening with that today but I think I don't know if it was with you or not and it might be you know with him and I discussing the Iran thing it's like yeah I think it was the Iran thing because there's a lot of species out there that are artificial intelligence and they do go around a at least they did, I'm sure they still do, they go around and attack other species.
So, you know, other species out there were worried about some of these artificial intelligence species.
It's not, you know, I'm not totally up to speed on all of that yet, but because he brings up new stuff in each report.
But that is fascinating.
I tend to like, you know, OK, is there anything about current events that I need to know or is there anything specific about what I'm going to talk about that I need to know that maybe you haven't told me or if I didn't read every little thing of that report?
Okay, well, along the lines of the reports, the way you work it on your website is, it doesn't look, correct me if I'm wrong, you can't download the reports anymore.
You used to have it that way, I thought.
No, no, never.
No?
No.
In fact, in the early days, they were all, they're all typed, most of them are typed, but they're all typed, and you would have to order a hard copy from me.
Over the years, you know, with scanning and stuff, and then with a lot of my clients are overseas, and I would either, like, scan something and maybe send them a CD with the PDF on it, and now, thankfully, I can just have it in Dropbox, they can order it, and I'll send them the PDF through Dropbox.
So that works wonderful, but I haven't, my website is not sophisticated enough yet to have them download it, because they are really long reports.
And, you know, adding a really secure shopping cart and all that technology.
I just haven't gotten there yet, but eventually I will.
And there's still a couple of reports that in the early days he hand-wrote, and we're going to have to use, like, dictation software because I don't want to type them.
They're, you know, like a thousand pages each.
And now his stuff is so long, like his Iran report...
He's working on part six, and each part is at least a thousand pages long, so everything is either online or it's going on a CD, because I don't make hard copies of those, I'll tell you.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Just because some people might be wondering about that.
So, in terms of Antarctica, have you talked to him about Antarctica on your own, with all the news that's coming out about it?
Because I talked to him briefly in our last interview, but...
As you remember, we did have some limited time there.
So is there anything you can add to the Antarctica discussion that you might have come across or even talked to him about recently?
Well, I've known about the Nazi base there for a long time because he's written about it.
I've had that information for quite a while.
I've always known about that part.
I'm sure we've told you his dad was part of Admiral Byrd's Operation High Jump.
They were down there in the 40s and dealing with the alien activity in Antarctica.
Somebody pointed out to me an article, or maybe it was a video, some Russian scientists had gone down there and they were going through the ice and they discovered some giant octopus thing.
And several of their people died and whatever.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's weird species down there.
And I think somebody has said, I don't know if there's a spaceship frozen in the ice or whatever, but there is alien activity in that area.
But the one thing he said, currently, all these people are going down there.
Why are all these government people going down there?
He said, that's one place that people can still have a secret meeting And you can't necessarily bug them or overhear them or, you know, you can't infiltrate that meeting.
Right.
That's one of the reasons why so many politicians are going down there because you can have a private meeting with humans and non-humans and that's one of the places where not everybody's going to be there with a camera.
Yes, and actually I did cover that in my report.
Now, as far as what's going on in this very recent sort of Dynamic with North Korea.
You're saying that has to do with the reptoids and you know Mark has also indicated that there are some beings that are working with the Chinese and that are different.
They're not necessarily reptoids.
Do you know is it the spider, what are called the spider beings?
I don't know troggs.
Is it the troggs or is it some other race?
I think he told me, but it's been a while, so I will have to ask him again.
And sometimes the alien group that you're working with changes, I think.
Right.
So I will have to ask him again.
But yeah, the Chinese have been working with somebody.
Right.
And a while back, not only Mark, but another whistleblower of mine had told me that, you know, there was a new group on the block that a lot of people were not real happy with.
Got to hide the phone.
It's all good.
So I will ask him about that because I'm not sure who that is.
Okay, this is kind of a strange question, but Mark married a...
Well, he told me that he was married to a Pleiadian woman and that he had two kids at least.
Who?
Okay.
Number one...
I and another Californian are the only ones that he's been married to, but he has lots of partners.
He's had lots of partners.
I know about one She was from the Aryan race.
So if there's a Pleiadian, I'm going to have to ask you.
No, no.
Maybe he meant Nordic.
Maybe I just remembered it as Pleiadian.
So don't quote me.
I won't quote you, but nothing surprises me because it took him a while to tell me about all the women and all the children.
Okay.
But there was a Nordic princess who he does have a child with, yes.
Okay, and the child is here on Earth?
Oh no, some, you know, out in their empire.
I see, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
She comes up with a couple of the reports.
Have you ever had any contact with Minerva?
No.
Okay.
She's going to talk about her fondly.
Okay, yeah.
Now, he recently told me that other people have been able to fly her.
Originally, he was one of the only pilots, and then he said more people have been able to fly her lately.
So, I just wondered if you knew any updates about Minerva and her whereabouts.
I must have been fetching food for him when he said that.
No, I'll have to ask him.
I don't remember him saying that.
But that doesn't mean he didn't fit.
I only know, you know, from what I know, he's been the only one.
And I know he's maybe said that other people have flown things like her.
Right.
But I don't think she's the only one of that.
Because there are other people out there who talk about having kind of a mind phase, you know, a mental ability and communication with other types of ships.
So I don't think she's the only ship that's kind of like herself.
But...
But I don't know if anybody else has flown her.
So if he said that to you, I must not have been...
Yeah, it was just lately, just recently.
Now, there's another question which has to do with Mark's actual age of dealing in the secret space program and then the age that he actually ended up in prison.
Just to refresh my memory, do you remember or do you know offhand his exact age when he entered the prison?
He was 29.
Well, he was 29 when he was arrested.
All right.
So there was July of 1982.
The trial was actually not till, like, spring of 84.
So he was convicted, you know, spring.
I think he went to actual prison-prison in June of 84.
Right.
Just incredible.
Right.
So he's now been in prison longer than he was free.
Right.
In, you know, in life, in this life.
Now, has he ever told you about his, like a vision of his life in the future or your life in the future or any of that sort of thing?
No.
No.
I mean, you know, we have talked over the years about In general, it is like, you know, it'd be great.
I would love to be out teaching and whatever.
And we talk about, you know, it would be great to to, you know, see the grandchildren and stuff like that.
And, you know, where his kids would like to put him so he could be around his grandchildren.
Things like that.
And, you know, my vision, and I'm very open about it, it's like my vision is for us to have some, and I found the ideal property, even though I didn't go visit it, but I found the ideal property online and in pictures when I was in Norfolk.
England last fall.
It's like this beautiful old like Edwardian house on five and a half acres.
Lots of fields like overlooking fields.
It's got a horse paddock.
It's got a separate cottage.
You know it's got plenty of room to land things on and grow vegetables.
It's like I want a place where all his alien friends can come visit.
All the grandchildren can come visit.
Everybody just has a grand time and we're just left alone to teach and communicate and live happily ever after with our alien friends.
Okay, sounds lovely.
Well, we'll put the wish out in the universe, and if there's any, you know, beneficials that are, or officials, or benefactors is the word I'm looking for, that want to show up and try to help you guys out, then they've got a heads up on that.
So, in terms of his English background, and his father, and his And then, you know, his lineage.
So can you tell us a little bit more about the Dutchman and why, like, what happened to the Dutchman when Mark ended up in prison?
Was the Dutchman very active in the military?
Like, you know, when his son went to prison, he was unable to get him out, right?
But he didn't go to prison.
And his mother didn't go to, you know, his mother must also been in a state.
So can you describe any of that?
Sure.
I mean, his lineage on his father's side, they're from Germany, the Rhineland in Germany.
So, hold up.
German princes, you know, that's a real thing there still.
So, he's like fourth generation away from being a German prince on his...
On his father's mom's side, some very prominent British families.
I know he's from the Stewart line.
He's from a Peacock line.
On his mom's side, there's definitely very special Celtic bloodlines.
And his mom's mom was related to Williams, the first governor of, I'm hoping it's Rhode Island, if I'm remembering correctly.
And, you know, like...
His grandparents were both involved with think tanks and Nikola Tesla and local politics and Grandpa Taylor on his mom's side was one of Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders and he was one of the original like Secret Service men and black type people and just powerful.
There isn't a bad bloodline anywhere in Mark.
You know, I think his mom kept telling me, and we're also related to Pocahontas.
I mean, Mark's done all the genealogy, and he likes to say, back to God.
But he's done his genealogy way, way back.
So his dad's side of the family is the House of Massa and the House of Orange.
So that's tied to, like, current royal families.
Like in the Netherlands and stuff.
And I'm not sure why his dad's called the Dutchman unless it's for that reason.
But his dad was in active Air Force until 1966 when Admiral Nimitz died and he was in charge of the International Security Agency.
So Mark's dad took that over and that was just what it sounded like.
An International Security Agency where while we were publicly at Cold War when there was a threat to the planet, Several countries came together and worked together to save humanity.
And his dad was in charge of that for 30 years until he died.
And he was active behind the scenes probably right up until he died.
Do you know why?
He seemed to be a person of note and somebody who had a fair amount of power.
So why is it he was unable to get Mark out of prison?
Mark told me!
You know, Mark was off on a mission the day that murder happened.
And that's all he will tell me.
Because I figured that much out.
And he can't tell me where he went or who he was with.
And those people can't come forward and say, this is what he was with us that day.
And the US government military is not going to say, oh, he was working for us that day.
Because then they would have to say what top secret thing they were working on.
And his dad point-blank told him, you're not going to break your oath, even to basically save your, and this is not a direct quote, but it's like basically, you're not going to break your military oath and tell the top secret thing you were doing, even if it means that would save your life or keep you out of prison.
It's like, you know what your duty is, and your duty is to keep quiet.
Okay.
Because they also thought that the lawyer they had working on at the time was a really good lawyer.
He was a well-known lawyer.
Um, but they, cause he can say, Oh, we're doing okay.
We're doing okay.
No, we don't need to object to that.
Nobody did, you know?
And so he, he didn't present a very good defense and they, he kind of had the family going along thinking, Oh, they're doing okay.
He's going to get him off and whatever.
And he did.
Um, but, Yeah.
And again, we don't know if this was all set up from the very beginning or if it just turned into a very convenient way to get Mark out of their hair.
And Mark's dad was murdered in six months before he and I met.
So early 1997, I think it was.
And I mean, he was already ill and he was already in a nursing home, but somebody went in and poisoned him.
But his mom was conveniently not there.
Okay.
I didn't remember that piece of information.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So what I'm going to do now is, you know, it's great to have you here and, you know, ask you kind of these random questions that are kind of going all over the place.
And I don't know if you had anything you wanted to present today, but if you do, certainly go right ahead.
But in the meanwhile, if you don't, then we could actually open it up to the chat because there may be people that want to ask you things that they've been, you know, they've seen my reports, in theory, if they're even on this show, you know, watching.
Let me share the latest thing I gave a talk on, which was a lot of fun, was...
Mark, when he was still in high school, he went to England and was part of Raptor military training.
They had a whole training facility at Bamberg Castle they were using at the time, and he was part of their whole...
He and other humans, including Dean Martin's son...
Went through this rigorous raptor military training and then they had like a war game type space mission which turned into an actual rescue mission but they had to do a little battle out there but it was it was delightful because again it talked about you know what the raptor military is like.
And, you know, talking more about the Raptors and how in the scene in Jurassic World, which I love, there's the guy on the motorcycle racing along with the Raptors.
Well, Mark is that guy.
I have the leather jacket.
He did race his motorcycles with the Raptors when they were running and training and stuff.
So it's kind of funny how the movie parallels my suite.
So that's a lot of fun.
And if I could just plug a couple things I'm going to be doing in the near future.
Sure.
Let's see.
May 21st, which is a Sunday coming up, in West Sacramento, there's Intergalactic Expo, which used to be a Star Trek convention, and now it's just a family-friendly thing about space for people to come and learn more about space and stuff.
So I'm going to have a booth there and give a little talk.
It's a fundraiser for children's cancer.
July, 4th of July weekend, or that weekend or before July, I'm speaking at a Dulce conference in Dulce, New Mexico.
I'm going to be having a booth at the MUFON Symposium in Las Vegas later in July, and mid-August I'll be down in Southern California speaking for the MUFON meeting.
So that's what's coming up this summer.
So there we are.
All right, very good.
Have you ever been to Bamberg Castle?
No, I haven't because it's way up north on the east side of England, right up by Scotland.
So, like one of these trips, I'll get farther up north.
I've never been farther north than where the probe conference is, which is just near Blackpool, but it's on the west coast.
And I love going to Norfolk, so North is another trip.
Yeah, no, it looks fascinating.
I just looked it up.
I thought I was wondering if I had been there, but I don't think I have either.
So, yeah, it looks fascinating.
So, at this moment, I'm going to open this up to questions from the audience, but let's see.
And I need serious questions here.
Someone's saying they're a raptor.
That's not going to really fly.
fly I'm sorry unless his name is brak brak
Our other high dimensional positive beings here, maybe this person is referring to the chat rather than the world, but yeah, I know there's a lot of crazies on this chat.
I'm sorry.
So, okay.
What about the mantis beings?
Have you ever had any interactions with them?
No, I would say the only thing I've had a somewhat interaction with, there may be the elementals, but Mark, Met Samantha's when he was in England as a kid at that England Exeter conference.
So he was very fascinated with a princess moonlight, moonbeam, something, moon something.
I think it was princess moonlight.
Yeah.
She was a teenager at that point.
So she went on a lot of field trips with them.
And so, you know, what he loved, he was fascinated with her face and her jaw, of course, and, you know, Just that she could be looking at a million things and it's just very fascinating and that the things that could chomp a human or any kind of enemy like right and two.
So he was very fascinated with them and then there was a group of mantis that were kind of like I guess there was some, I don't know if it was revolution is the right word, but some rebels or whatever, outlaws is what they were called, were actually meeting with Mark's dad and Prince Naga, the raptor, and his contingency there.
But I don't know a lot about them, but I know they have been, you know, our allies at different times, and I don't know if they're always allies with the raptors, but it seems like certainly at certain times they must be.
Okay, the reptoids that we're talking about, that Mark is always talking about the reptoids, but sometimes I get the feeling that there's more than one race of reptoids, you know?
Well, you have the raptors, which still look like the velociraptor dinosaurs that they came from.
The reptoids are their...
They evolved from the raptors, so they look more human and they stand uprightly and don't usually have a tail anymore.
But if you're in close hand-to-hand combat, they're still going to have their sharp teeth and claws.
And they're basically mortal enemies now.
Even though they're distant relatives, they're mortal enemies.
And then there are several reptilian species that originated out in space.
And the Dracos are the only ones I know about, but I know there's some others, and some of them are very friendly.
Because I've met people here, you know, human people here who believe that that's, you know, who their starseed family was.
Okay.
He does not speak fondly of the Dracos or the Reptoids.
The raptors, you know, are his friends, so he loves them to pieces.
Okay, what about the beings from Aldebaran and possibly being...
I understand they're humanoid, but my understanding is they're also related to the reptoids, maybe by bloodlines and that there may be some mixtures in there.
Do you know anything about that?
I don't.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes, please do put your questions in the chat in all caps.
We've addressed the getting out of prison question, so we're not going to go back into that.
Maybe you missed that, the person who wrote that.
We got the mantis thing.
What is the acronym for MINERVA? Uh-oh.
Multi-interdimensional blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'd have to look it up.
I know multi-interdimensional, multi-dimensional...
That's all I know, because it's very long and it's very scientific.
If someone could email that to me, I will look it up, and I can email that back to them.
All right.
Yeah, I'm not seeing any...
Hold on a second.
Okay.
What about abductions?
Who's conducting them and why?
Well, of course, genetic modification is part of the abduction phenomena, in case you don't know that.
But do you want to address anything about the abductions?
Mark was involved in the Battle of Dulce.
Let me say that much.
And we did cover that.
And you, I'm sure, have covered this.
But go right ahead.
Okay.
He said, well, there are greys.
I think the zeta reticula, they work for numerous alien species.
They kind of will work for whoever, and they are involved with a lot of abductions.
The reptoids are guilty of the majority of abductions going on now.
And the troggs that we've talked about, some nasty insect being, they're like black marketeers.
So they do come and raid the planet for humans and then sell them off to whoever out in space.
And why are they doing this?
For meat, for reproduction, for sex, you name it, it's nothing good.
And there would be other species that probably do kidnappings.
Those are the three that I know the most.
Okay.
Someone here wants to know, it's a hard question for me to believe they're asking, but nonetheless, why isn't there any hard proof?
Of what?
Of the, you know, alien visitation to Earth, I guess is what they're trying to say.
Well, if you could get into the Vatican archives, there's plenty of proof.
That's true.
Also, there's ancient sites all over the world, including in Malta, that show evidence of being constructed by other than humans.
And after that, you can look at the temples in Egypt.
Right, and the Gobekli Tepe, there's carvings all over that that show that it was a spaceport for different alien species, and there's cave carvings, cave drawings all over the world.
And then there's the reptoids that are running the country that you could pay attention to there as well.
So they're here, whether you like it or not, and they are us as well.
A couple of other things, and I've shown pictures of these in my various talks, is I think in Peru, there were giant cat claws that were almost ceramic.
Cat claws.
It was almost like a cat's hand or paw.
And then there's a wonderful stone carving of an upright cat that was found that would have been carved thousands of years ago and it was found in a cave in Germany.
And it's Pretty much an exact likeness of our panther friends that come here very peacefully, and they're scientists and artists and things that come here to explore.
But, you know, there are, if you look carefully, there are evidences of, and I mean, England is Full of dinosaur evidence.
And, you know, the raptors, Naga's family, that's where they're from.
So they love visiting different places in England to see where their family was from.
Well, they're carving rock carvings all over the world as well.
There's also the longheads and giants.
You should look into the work of Hugh Newman if you want to see it.
The incredible number of giants that they've discovered and various longheads.
And again, those are considered to be different than a human species.
And another thing, and I never got there because it's really hot there, but in California...
Okay, I think it's down by China Lake.
If you head from Bakersfield up over towards Lancaster, China Lake is in that area somewhere.
That's right.
Navy base or whatever.
There is a little museum there and you can go like in a tour on certain times of the year down into like the valley to just see different things and there is like drawings and evidence that reptilians and things were visiting that area.
They're also all over Turkey in all the temples, etc.
So, I mean, reptilian drawings and churches have the gargoyles, etc.
These are all evidence of reptilian beings and they're everywhere in the religious symbolism.
A lot of places in South America are definitely, you know, there were raptor areas and things like that.
Now, somebody wants to know if you've met a Nephilim.
Sorry.
I met a guy at the recent UFO con who says that that's what he is, or has been at one time.
So I guess I could say I've met one.
Okay.
He says that he was a Nephilim, and I'm not sure if he said he's been a Martian or if it was some kind of clone, but Martian and Nephilim were the two terms that I heard, so...
All right, and let's see.
Someone wants to know, do you work with the Elementals personally for protection?
Yes, I do.
Right.
Mark, someone wants to know, has Mark talked about super soldiers?
And the answer is yes, and augmented humans.
So we've talked about that in the interviews I've done with him.
Do you want to talk about what you know about that?
Um, most of it you've already covered, but he hasn't really gotten into a ton of detail with me on, you know, how people might be augmented.
Um, you know, we tend to talk recently about the other guys who are coming forward.
I mean, I've met several super soldiers at the conferences that Laurie and Fenton's put on and some of them had actually remembered him helping to rescue them as young children.
But, um, He didn't know, and one of them, they've still heard about him over the years, even though they're way younger than he, they wouldn't have been actively working with him.
Well, I can say, I'll say one thing and then you can add to it.
One thing that Mark said is that their objective is to build a race of what he called passive super soldiers.
That's, in essence, humanity, what we would call 3.0.
So he's talked about it in those terms.
Okay.
Which kind of sums the whole thing up.
And that means they're going to be augmented by, you know, bio, by robotics, by nanotech, by artificial intelligence, etc., etc.
And transhumanism is, you know, is also, you know, basically demonstrating that sort of that trend, I guess you might call it.
Cool.
Okay, I'm just scanning here, and I won't keep here for that much longer.
I know we've had you for a while here.
That's okay.
I have to pay somebody's payroll taxes before 9 o'clock.
All right.
Well, then we're going to really have to cut this short.
Let's just do one question.
Let's see.
It says, Blue Avians, you know, people are constantly talking about this because I guess Corey Goode is talking about this.
I have never had that discussion with Mark.
Do you have any opinion, I guess the person wants to know, about Blue Avians?
I don't.
And Mark and I have never talked about them.
And one of the reasons why I'm going to the MUFON Symposium is because their whole theme is the secret space program.
And they didn't ask me to speak.
No, but I want to hear what...
No, that's not...
I mean, they didn't ask me to speak, but I'm happy to go there and have a booth and share what I know.
But Corey Goode's going to be there.
Bill Tompkins is going to be there.
Other speakers that I'm interested in hearing what they have to say.
So, you know, it's okay that I'm not speaking.
I'm just, I'm happy to be there and hear some of the stuff they have to say and share what I know.
Because obviously our, you know, what Mark has shared with all of us is a different perspective than what a lot of people talk about.
Absolutely.
And he's been on the sector, well, now for a while.
Yeah.
And so on.
So, okay, well, you know, it's wonderful to have you here.
I want everyone to go onto my PCTV channel, the other YouTube channel, and watch your shows because they're wonderful.
Each one is, as I recall, an hour show.
And she really gets into a lot of stuff there.
So that augments all of the stuff that I've tried to cover.
And, you know, it's a huge amount.
Yeah, there is.
I had somebody email me not too long ago saying, you know, could you tell me everything you know about aliens and UFOs?
And I said, well, that would take days.
But if you want to get me, you know, bring me to where you live, we'll do a little mini something.
But you can't go on the, you know, Project Camelot TV. And see all my shows, and that's free, and you wouldn't have to pay me to come visit you.
You wouldn't have to pay my way to come down for a private audience.
So hopefully they did that, because yes, we have shared a wealth of information on that show, and hopefully in the near future we will develop some new shows, because as you know, he's always sharing new stuff with us.
Absolutely.
And fascinating stuff all the time.
So, well, it's like I said, great to have you here.
Thanks so much.
Do you want to give your website so that everyone knows where to go?
And it's also on the front page of Camelot in case you lose it.
You know, there's a big banner.
Yeah, thank you.
That's a lovely banner, but it stands for Earth Defense Headquarters.
It's E-D as in dog, H as in Harry, C-A for California dot org.
E-D-H-C-A dot org.
My phone number's on there.
My email's on there.
I'm happy to chat with people, email, whatever.
Wonderful.
Thank you so much for having me on the show.
And Carrie, we do appreciate all your support.
Oh, well, it's a pleasure.
And, you know, we're just all working for the same cause as far as I'm concerned.
So it's all good.
You're a family.
Yep.
That's the way it is.
So thank you very much, Joanne.
And I'll say goodnight to you.
and have a great night and thanks everyone for watching as always and have a great weekend I just want to say that I've got a part three of John Lear that's coming out probably late tonight or tomorrow so if you're watching our John Lear interviews it's called John Lear Revisited and we went there a couple weeks ago spent about five hours interviewing him it was really a marathon And that editing job
is pretty humongous.
And we now have a part three, which is, you know, you have part one, part two, and part three.
Those are the main hours of the interview.
And there are some outtakes that we may be able to put out there subsequently, but those are not ready yet.
So, I encourage you to watch all of the recent shows I've been doing.
I did a show earlier today, in case you don't know, and I recommend that you watch that.
That was with Keith Hunter, and he was talking about North Korea and a theory that he has about the scalar weapons that North Korea may be using.
You know, working on getting and experimenting with that could end up to affect our troops and our ships and so on.
And a recent article that was out in the, it was the Daily Mail, the British Daily Mail.
So that was another show today that's on my website.
It's on my YouTube channel.
There's so many shows.
It's just extraordinary.
And then Len Kasten and his book, Alien World Order, I guess is the name of it, all about the reptilian influence on humans, was an interview last night, and that's on YouTube.
And prior to that, I had Richard Allen Miller, and I've edited that for sound, so that's now available.
And, well, the list just goes on.
And we are working on a Michael Schradt interview.
Also, putting that out, we actually did an in-person interview with him about a week ago or so.
So, just doing more and more interviews, and I hope everyone's enjoying them.
And please do donate to Camelot, however...
Small amount you can.
And I appreciate your help and appreciate you keeping us working and on the air.
So thank you.
Have a great weekend.
Take care.
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