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May 11, 2017 - Project Camelot
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JOHN LEAR - REVISITED PART THREE OF THREE
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Transcription by CastingWords and he says the entire Vietnam War had nothing to do with communism.
It was because there was a re-invasion of a species of ET. I believe it.
I figured out the connection with Vietnam and that being the only way about It can't be more than a month ago.
The Bentwaters incident led me to Benowitz, led me to something else, led me to Bob Lazar, led me to...
You know, each one gets deeper and deeper into the real thing.
We'll say, well, how bad could they be?
And are they worse than the aliens on Alien 1?
Yeah, worse.
And, uh...
Because I think being here in person, you know, you get to find these wonderful things like your maps and memorabilia that triggers your memory, so...
Did you see or read Lou Baldwin's book, Mars and the Lost Planet Man?
No.
He writes the story about, you know where the asteroid belt is between Jupiter and Mars?
Right.
That was a planet twice as big as theirs was.
The hundred billion humans on it that was blown up by the ETs because it didn't fit into their program.
And it took one and a half seconds to completely obliterate it.
Nothing remained.
And that's what causes the different, what do you call them, showers every year.
Oh yeah?
Where does he get his information?
Two ways.
Number one is starting when he was five years old.
He lived in Italy.
His father was in the U.S. Army.
And he got picked up.
Regularly by ETs and taken to different parts of the universe and shown different things and told different things.
And then he'd meet with people who told him more stuff.
And then he says specific dates where he was given an information dump.
And that would give him more information.
And what I was specifically interested in is, if you're telling me about living our lives with integrity and without envy or greed, I thought we weren't supposed to know this stuff.
He says, you aren't, but just telling you and the people you can reach is not very many people compared to how many people there are on the planet.
Seven billion.
So he said, it's okay.
He said, you can pass it to anybody you want.
As a matter of fact, we prefer you pass it.
Right.
Well, I think, you know, the yogis and various people...
It's called enlightenment.
You know, that's another word for what you're talking about.
He was on a team, U.S. Army team, based in Okinawa, that would be sent to Vietnam when they found...
Real live monsters.
And they were hidden.
The monsters would hide themselves in holes or caves that the Vietnamese had dug themselves.
And the monsters were seven feet tall, had wings that didn't move, but they could fly.
And He said he was only attacked once and he felt a twitching on his neck, but he got away.
Okay, well that's interesting, because I was going to ask you, I just talked to Mark Richards about Vietnam, and he says the entire Vietnam War had nothing to do with communism.
It was because there was a re-invasion of a species of E.T. I believe it.
I believe that to be absolutely unadulterable.
They're actually spider beings.
It's really horrible.
He said they're the size of a VW, like, you know, those VW bugs, and that they demolished what's called Angkor Wat many, many, I think, you know, thousands of years before this.
This place called Angkor Wat, he said, was filled with portals.
And that during, I guess it was World War II, they took their attention away from that area of the east, you know, far east.
And that during that time, they started to reinvest through Vietnam, come up through Laos and Vietnam and then that area.
And that's what they were battling.
And they've got no idea, he said most of the soldiers, etc., had no idea what they were really fighting.
And, yeah, it's fascinating that you got this from Lou Baldwin and you also.
I figured out the connection with Vietnam and that being the only way about...
It can't be more than a month ago.
Wow.
Because I've always looked for the reason why, you know, we attacked Vietnam.
It can't be, you know...
For the bullshit we used to hear, you know, saving the...
The dominoes that we're going to all call.
The domino theory and just all kinds of crap.
But the monster makes real, real good sense.
Now he says we were successful, actually.
So we may not have won the war in Vietnam according to what they think out there, but the reality is I guess they beat back this alien race successfully.
I guess.
And you know chemtrails, right?
That's when they started the spraying program.
Are the chemtrails for the monsters?
I guess.
They were spraying all kinds of chemicals through the jungle and demolishing it.
I knew this was going to happen.
And what he said happened in Angkor Wat is they actually, I guess they're highly intelligent, and they had some kind of electronic, I don't even know, microwave machine, and they demolished something like in two and a half hours, and the entire population of that, all of that area of Southeast Asia or whatever you want to call it, around Angkor Wat, these beings came in and then they ate them all.
They demolished it, they killed them all, killed them all, and then they ate them all.
And so there's no bodies, no bones.
That is absolutely fantastic.
That is so cool.
Like I said, starting with What's his name in Las Vegas in 1985?
The Bentwaters incident led me to Benowitz, led me to something else, led me to Bob Lazar, led me to...
You know, each one gets deeper and deeper into the real thing.
Incredible stuff.
This stuff that you just told me, Yeah.
And actually he says that, okay, this gets into Antarctica and I wanted to ask you about this because a lot of people are going to want to know what you think.
So we know that, you know, John Kerry went down there during the election of all things, right?
A lot of people are apparently, you know, heads of state are trying to go by way of New Zealand down to Antarctica.
They've been told stop.
Stop.
Don't come down here.
There's something they want to see.
There's some sign of part of Atlantis that actually really didn't sink, but just actually shifted down to that part of the globe and has left a piece of land.
You know, it's part of really Antarctica.
And that, you know, there's some beings down there.
And Marx says that actually, yes, That there are a lot of ET races down there that they have meetings with, and they can't meet anywhere else in the globe because the surveillance technology, you know, that humans even have, is so pervasive, but it hasn't penetrated down there.
So that's one thing he said.
I'm not sure, you know...
He can't always be honest with me.
He says he reports to Bobby Ray Inman.
He says that Bobby Ray Inman knows more than most humans about the whole E.T. story.
I don't know if you've heard this, but it also may be that the Navy is responsible for getting Trump in power.
The Navy is very instrumental.
Now, the Navy is split.
There's one side that, you know, is not on board.
But anyway, so the thing is that he says there's a race of beings down there.
And he used this as an example.
It's really interesting.
He said, they're poisonous to us.
They're poisonous to us.
So they can come visit us.
They want to talk to us or whatever.
They're energy beings, he said.
But there are things like they spit acid and the acid just demolishes us and all this kind of thing.
And then he said, there are many invading races or something of that nature.
But he said, there are certain ones that have more priority that people don't realize.
You know, they think, you know, I don't know, the Anunnaki and this one and that one.
But he said...
There are certain ones that are high priority, that are ones that they have to watch out for.
And I guess these spider beings are also, I've gotten this from another witness, are a high priority, invading, still invading, you know, potentially invading race.
That's so cool.
I mean, your last ten minutes made this whole thing worth it.
I mean, it's really interesting.
It is.
And the interesting thing is no one wants to say that.
No one wants to talk about that.
Yeah, just like it went click, click, click, click, click.
Because, you know, Lou has been telling us for years that we'll say, well, how bad could they be?
And are they worse than the aliens on Alien 1?
Yeah, worse.
And...
But nobody can get him to say anything.
It's really cool.
Really cool.
Okay, let's get on with your stuff because I want to be sure you're satisfied.
Alright, well, other than that, you know, is there anything else about the moon?
Because I know you wanted to say, you know, that you think we didn't go there, but I've been told we went there, we'd had help.
You know, we know about the astronauts, we know their brains were wiped, you know, their memories.
I mean, you heard about Buzz Aldrin down in Antarctica recently, right?
You didn't hear about that?
Well, he, I mean, Buzz Aldrin, right, of all people, is down there supposedly hiking around in Antarctica.
This is a story.
And he had a heart attack, or almost did, and had to be shipped out.
He said, I saw, the word is, they tweeted, I saw the face of evil.
I'm paraphrasing.
And then that's it.
And the tweet has disappeared off his Twitter.
So nobody, you know, some people say it's true, some people say it's false.
He's been interviewed since and doesn't say anything about it.
But of course, he was shipped out by the, you know, military in the hospital.
He could easily have had his mind wiped since then.
He looks like a troubled guy, I gotta say.
You know.
This is the kind of thing we're talking about.
What is the face of evil, you know?
And you know about the Nazis in Antarctica and all that.
The what way?
The Nazis.
The Nazi bases down in...
You know, they call them fascists.
The beings from Aldebaran that helped the Nazis during World War II and came over to the United States helped with their space program.
A lot of this stuff is coming out now.
So I don't know if you've heard anything along these lines.
Yeah, the guy that wrote the book that I'm telling you about, the plutonium.
Right.
You had a meeting, I don't know if you want me to say this publicly, so if you don't, we don't have to, but you said, okay, so we traded plutonium for, what was the trade?
They gave us plutonium.
The trade was for Operation Paperclip.
So to get the Nazis in for free, you know, to not be prosecuted, basically.
Yeah, to let them off the hook, and they gave us their plutonium.
So that's a piece of information we don't have.
Who are you saying is saying that?
I just think it's behind this, you know, the people behind Operation Playbook were John Foster Dulles, who was Secretary of State.
The other Dulles, who was head of the CIA.
And Eleanor Dulles, who was head of the Berlin desk in Berlin.
And they're the three people that made Operation Paperclip.
Okay, and that checks out with my information as well.
I was told, again, by Michael Shrimpton that the Dulles brothers were basically Nazi agents.
Were Nazi agents?
Yeah.
Well, yes, I believe that, and I believe that it's a lot further than people think.
I think this is the Fourth Reich.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I'll tell you why I think so.
It is because, number one...
When they killed Gus Grissom, I mean, that was a warning to everybody.
Do not fuck with us.
And, you know, the day before, Gus had said, and this was January 27th, 1967, the day before that, he had said, this thing ain't going to the moon in two years.
And before that, he had said that he had hung the banana or the lemon on the Apollo spacecraft.
So his son was given the little piece of material from the cockpit that was the igniter for the oxygen.
And it'd be sure interesting to...
To have that tape, what they said for the 10 or 15 seconds they had to live.
I don't think they lived more than that, but the interesting thing about all of that is the fact that the fourth person in there was from the secret astronaut corps.
And the reason was, is Joe Shea, the head of the Apollo program, had to go to New York for a Meeting a party, not a meeting, not a meeting, a party of the Apollo program.
And the reason that there's a 45 minute lapse and delay of information from the time the fire went out until the time the NASA crews were let in to recover the bodies.
What happened during that 45 minutes?
Why?
What happened?
Well, what happened was they had to get the fourth guy out and the fourth guy was the secret astronaut and I have his name and if ever it pops up I know that I've not given that name to anybody, and if it pops up, I'll know that that is him.
And his son, the astronaut that was killed with Grissom, White and Chaffee, is a current astronaut now.
And I have his name, and it'll be interesting to see if it comes out before I croak.
But if you believe we're in the Fourth Reich, you're right.
You're right.
Absolutely.
Certainly, Joseph Farrell and Jim Mars.
Jim Mars wrote a book, The Fourth Reich, all about this.
I mean, yeah, I'm sure of this.
Based on every piece of evidence we've gotten, According to William Tompkins, who is this guy who's come out, and I wish you would watch my interview with him, fascinating guy, and again, he's brought forward by Bobby Ray Inman and the Navy,
and he is talking about how the Apollo program, he worked on the Apollo program, he talked about how he came in and redesigned all of it, how he dealt with the Nordic beings who are helping our space program, All through the days of RAND Institute, Douglas Aerospace, early days of Skunk Works.
He redesigned it.
But why?
Because it wasn't going to go anywhere.
Because, just like they said, he said it was a mess.
And, in essence, the Nordic beings helped us.
A certain group of Nordics, of Pleiadians.
And that there are Nazis who tried to sabotage our space program.
Who did?
The Nazis.
The ones who came over from Paperclip.
They were under orders from the reptilians not to let us succeed.
You know, I guess it was three months ago there was a huge article on Angkor Wat in National Geographic.
Really?
That's interesting.
Well, if there was a portal system back, you know, he said lots of portals in that particular area of the world.
Those portals are likely still there.
I mean, they don't go away, portals.
And nobody wiped them out.
And you know that, of course, Mark also talks about the portals in the mountains, in the mountains between Iraq and Iran.
Really?
They're moving, yeah, they're shifting gates, he says, and they have to guard them.
They're never going to leave that area.
They're there for, you know...
Between Iraq and Iran, there's gates?
Gates in the mountains.
And the gates?
Where, you know, beings can come in and out and bring equipment in and out.
From where?
From other dimensions, other places, other planets.
Because I have a friend that is over there all the time and he hasn't...
You know, I told you about the guys that used to be down at the gate here and also guys used to come to the door and tell my wife, I'd like to talk to your husband.
Yeah.
And in 1990, it all stopped like this.
Nobody...
Showed up ever again.
And none of those guys You know, and I've heard that there is a huge facility in the middle of the test site, brand new, and it's a prison for guys who talk.
And if they talk, they're going in that place and they're never coming out.
Now, they used to keep them at Lovelock, the federal prison up there.
Well, off in 95, we saw there's two, like, they look very new and they're covered.
They've got lights and barbed wire, just like, you know, a Nazi Germany kind of place.
And there's two prisons up on that ridge now.
Whereabouts?
Coming down the 95, past Pahrump.
It's between Pahrump and Vegas.
Past Pahrump.
If you come south towards Vegas, it's on the right-hand side.
There are two prisons.
You can look it up on a Google map.
I'm sure they're marked.
But they're prisons.
And we were joking that that's where the people who talk go.
I don't know if that's the same kind of place.
Well, that's...
There's a correctional facility they call one of them, and one they say it's an outright prison of some kind.
Yeah.
Yeah, they've been there a long time, but the prison right in the middle of the test site, and a friend of mine goes up there occasionally.
His job is some bullshit deal, but anyway, he says, I wondered what that was, and he said, I finally figured it out.
It's a prison.
And I have a friend that used to give me information on a monthly basis, just as regular as you can be, and I haven't heard a thing.
Now, we know that the first question on the lie detector test that everybody was taking every 90 days was, do you know John Lear and what is your relationship with him?
Right straight from the horse's mouth.
Incredible.
What happened is the friend that I had that was giving me information, he said, John, you want to be very careful because the security that they had going for Groom Lake is now good for the entire Nevada desert site.
So, everybody...
And I'm sure I'm part of it because I would give information that I had for five years, but they probably thought was recent.
You know, where the fuck did he get that, you know?
And they have effectively really closed it down, and that's just straight out of the Nazi handbook, you know?
Right.
And...
Well, you know, we were at a conference here in Vegas, and we were approached by a guy at the very end of the conference.
Everybody had left.
And he basically said, he worked at Groom, you know, underground at Groom Lake, and he said...
They come down, they pile the tables with cocaine and give them everything they can possibly want.
And he was just going on about this stuff.
And he was not a dummy, this guy, okay?
He didn't look like some shifty, anything like that, you know what I mean?
And he was just there talking to people, whoever would listen to him, like he came down there.
And I guess, you know...
He said they have cocaine?
He said they give people that work there everything they could possibly want.
Drugs, women, you name it.
But they can't talk about it, right?
And for some reason he came to the conference and he just wanted to talk to a few of us.
And I think, you know, some people didn't listen.
Some people did.
I was there.
I'm not going to name a couple other people who heard him say this.
And then I guess he just disappeared, you know.
The guy that was the medical guy, his website is Area 51, 1 and 2, or something like that.
But anyway...
I was the one that got him totally involved in this stuff in the beginning.
And he supposedly was the guy that found the doctor that was doing the injections of the alien that lived in this subterranean thing in S4 that would go up and down.
You don't mean Dan Beerish.
Yeah.
He didn't die.
I didn't hear he died.
No.
The guy that found Dan Burick.
That found Dan Beerish?
Yeah.
A medical guy that found Dan...
No, no.
Dan Beerish is a medical guy.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
The other guy, I'm trying to remember his name.
I can't remember it.
He's the one that told me that...
Bill Hamilton?
No.
He's the one that told me that the head of MJ-1 was Mike McConnell.
That's right, yeah.
And Mike McConnell is the one that engineered hiring Bob Ozar because he knew that Bob Ozar would come directly to me and that I would spread the information and from that they could tell how it was going to be received.
And he was also, I think, the head, defense intelligence, head of the DIA. Now, have you heard a story like that, like I just said?
Yeah, that's Dan Beerish's information.
Mike McConnell, he considers Mike McConnell his father.
Okay, but that he hired Bob to give information to me?
No, I didn't hear about that side.
Interesting.
I mean, it doesn't surprise me.
I think they're always doing that.
They're always bird-dogging information, tracking it to see who talks to who.
Because the first night that Bob came in and sat down and said, I saw a disc today, and I said, what?
I saw a disc today.
I said, theirs or ours?
He said, theirs.
I said, what are you doing here?
Why don't you go and work for a couple of months to find out?
He said, well, I just feel that you've taken so much crap over this that I've seen it, I touched it, it's real, and people deserve to know that.
But I never heard the Mike McConnell story until the guy that just passed away told it to me.
Wow, I wonder which guy that was.
Now, you'll know his name as soon as I come over.
I'm sure I'm going to know it, yeah.
Now, do you believe Dan Burke's story?
I believe a lot of what viewers says, yeah.
I do too.
I just can't understand why George Knapp is so down on that guy.
Well, a lot of people are.
Why?
They made a lot of enemies.
Well, you know, they've also done some stuff to people.
You know, it's a crazy thing.
I think purposefully they've got a lot of disinfo, confusion around their story.
And people don't want to believe it.
I can tell you I do.
I was even visited by Kaiella.
Who?
The ET that Dan Burish interviewed.
Did the skin sampling and helped him.
Kiela is the name of the E.T. I don't know that guy.
Yeah.
And he actually helped him escape, the story goes, through a pyramid.
Through the pyramid, the gate.
Oh, okay.
But what was his other name?
Kiela.
No, but his other name.
They called him over there for him.
I don't remember.
That's what I remember.
Kiela.
There might have been another name, but I don't remember it.
I just remember Kaella.
Anyway, he came and said hello to me after the interview, strangely.
Well, I just can't understand why George Knapp doesn't believe Dan Burke when he believed me about Bob Lazar.
Ned Day blew me off.
I mean, Ned and I were friends for years, and I gave him some good information.
And, uh, When I told him about this, I had all my files and everything, and Ned Day, after I got through, I said, no, John, it's not possible.
I said, why not?
He said, I would have known.
Now, how could anybody be so fucking arrogantly stupid as to say, I would have known, especially Ned Day?
Tell me that.
How could he?
I thought you were saying, so it wasn't George Knapp that said that, it was Ned Day.
Ned Day that originally said that, now George Knapp is saying the identical thing about Dan Burick.
Well, Dan Burick came back to me a few years ago and they turned against us.
We got threatened by them.
A short time after, Henry Deacon went on stage and said he'd worked on Mars.
We were threatened by them in a sort of backhanded way.
But at any rate, he took over for MJ-1.
Who did?
Dan Beerish.
That's what he told me.
Really?
Take it or leave it.
Who told you that?
Dan Beerish himself.
Is that right?
Where is he now?
I have no idea.
But, you know, they were always in Vegas.
I don't know where they are now.
Okay, that's as many stories as I can absorb.
Let's go and do your stuff.
Okay, what else is there?
You know, I'm actually...
You know, we need to wrap this up.
Okay, I don't want to wrap it up.
It's too much to talk about.
I wanted to show you one thing.
I just wanted to show you that these...
Are the pages with a guy who was a technician on Apollo 1 and as much as ordered to fake the material, to just forget it, forget what was coming out and make it pass.
And before I forget it, a lot of people say there couldn't have been a fourth guy in the cockpit, it's just too small.
That's bullshit because If they sat with their head on the console and their feet into where the rocks were, there's plenty of room there.
You're agreeing with me?
I have no idea.
You know, I've seen that capsule thing.
It doesn't look very big.
I don't even understand how anybody would go anywhere in that stuff.
Those things do not look...
Do what?
They don't look flight-worthy.
But if you're using free energy and you're wrapping them, I mean, if you put it, you know, inside something else, who knows?
Put what inside?
The capsules.
I'm just saying, you know, we were told years ago, we went to the moon, but we had help.
And now we've got William Tompkins talking about how they dealt with Apollo and how much help they did have, which is serious help.
And I don't think he's revealing the whole story.
I think he's, you know, giving us bits and pieces, as always.
I think it's too much for them to admit.
That they faked it.
No, they've got a fake story that was filmed by Stanley Kubrick.
But, you know, and Jay Widener is like an expert on this.
He's writing a book right now about the fake...
He was here the other day.
Was he?
Yeah.
So they were filming it.
Yeah.
All right.
He's writing a book about this, more about Stanley Kubrick and this whole, you know, fake...
That was a backup story.
They had to have that because they couldn't show what was really on the moon.
We know all that, right?
So there's two stories.
There's the real one.
There's the engineered fake one, which they definitely did do and hired him to do.
And he's got even more information about Stanley Kubrick now, indicating that he was in on it and he believes possibly may not even be dead.
Really?
Yeah.
Maybe he took a ticket to Mars.
Look, I've got people who've told me...
I've got a physicist right now, Richard Allen Miller.
Have you heard of him?
I interviewed him a number of times.
He's out on the circuit.
He's a brilliant guy.
Right now he's writing about time travel.
He writes...
He's got written like 10, 12 books.
And he says he has what he calls a get-out-of-jail-free card to go to Mars.
If things go south here...
To go there.
So, you know, this is something that, you know, people have been talking about for a long time, of course.
Well, you know, the one good thing that Oglin said in his book was that he didn't say, but somebody else said, but quoted him saying, the lie is different at every level.
Yes.
And it is, man.
It's like an onion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Famous quote.
He repeated it, but he didn't make it up.
No.
Who made it up?
I don't know.
Apparently, from what I understand, some guy who worked out at one of the places who told Hoagland that, and Hoagland always remembered it.
So, you gave me a list.
I don't know what else you want to cover.
I'll just go through quickly a list of the things that I cover on the radio and you can say not interested not interested interested we'll do it another time Cold War didn't exist It was a cover for the UFO problem.
Yeah.
Let me throw this at you.
You know, nuclear, whenever...
This is what I was told.
Whenever you hear the word nuclear...
What they're really saying is it's the ET story.
So nuclear, if they say, oh, it's a nuclear explosion or it's a nuclear this, nuclear that, nothing to do with nuclear.
It's all to do with some ET thing.
It's a cover, like similar to what you're talking about.
Universe evolved from a single atom.
I used to believe that, but I don't anymore.
It's ridiculous.
The universe is so big...
There's no way to explain to people like you and me who live in the three dimension and, you know, we can see this and that and we hear 19 billion years as far as the Hubble can see.
And you know there's two Hubble's, right?
Or is there three?
That's a good one.
Okay.
No, I haven't heard that, but it makes perfect sense.
Why would there only be one?
Well, they sent one, and when they sent two, one was going to be the civilian one.
But then they figured they could see it stereoscopically with two.
So they told the public that one was put together wrong, and they had to send it back for the two years that they were using it stereoscopically.
And Everybody was making money.
The people who built the thing and didn't screw up, you know, everybody was coming out on that deal.
But no, there was nothing wrong with that.
David Adair is out on the circuit talking about how he's upset over the retirement of the space shuttles.
But that's a cover story as well.
I mean, anytime in anything they want to go black, they say it's done, it's a mistake, it's trash, or whatever.
Absolutely.
And it's always going black.
Yeah, this is happening constantly.
Anytime they got a good idea, they take it black.
Right.
Fukushima?
I believe that it's Israelis setting off an atomic weapon.
Yeah, it was triggered.
Absolutely.
And the reason was, was because the Japanese were selling high-grade plutonium to Iran.
Yeah, I know.
I heard that story as well.
Apparently there's an ET side to that.
The Japanese are working with the reptoids, and we're at war with them.
So it's much more about that and terraforming the planet.
They're terraforming the planet.
The radiation causes...
We're talking about genetic...
And we're talking about an X-Men scenario.
That's what they're looking for in the newborns.
They're looking for ways to change the human genome and to upgrade us into, you know, basically what I call robotic Superman that involves nano and biotech and all of this to create a humanity 3.0.
Okay, so that would be completely different than...
Us being down here to learn how to live with integrity and without envy.
Yours is the good advice.
I'm talking about the dark side, what they're planning.
Right.
And the reason it couldn't have been a tsunami or an earthquake was because you don't see anything shaking.
And the reason it got so bad is because the Israelis won the contract to be the guards.
For the nuclear stuff so that when it started going bad, they didn't throw the right valves.
Stuxnet?
Yeah.
Yeah, Jim Stone is the one who broke that story.
Excellent reporter who's from the NSA on the run down in Mexico somewhere.
Jim Stone?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
No wonder I can't find any stuff that he's in.
Yeah, he's got a website.
You know, you report stuff, but he's really hard to get a hold of.
I try to interview him.
He's not available.
That makes sense.
I was wondering about that because I was going to talk about the MH370 story.
Okay, well, what do you have on that?
What Jim Stone said is that they took 370, flew it to Israel, Modified it to be able to fly radio control.
Then they faked MH17, put in 370, shot it down, and the doctors, any of the doctors now say that the people were dead at least three weeks.
Yes.
And people are there saying, no, they couldn't be.
Well, I heard they shot him up with some kind of...
It was headed to crash in Russia to create a 9-11 type of event.
Putin had it shot down because it was basically turned into a dirty bomb type of thing.
I thought that the reason they hijacked it was to get rid of the other four engineers Who...
Okay, now you're talking about 370 and the flight that disappeared with...
Yeah, those...
Why?
What were you talking about?
Oh, I was talking about when the plane went to Israel and was repainted and then went over Russia.
It's the same story.
Is it?
Okay, yeah, but there was the portion between the flight...
It was redirected to Diego Garcia first.
And possibly from there, we don't know, might have gone to Israel.
But the story was that there was a bunch of these engineers from Fremantle, this company.
They're like super nerds.
The four engineers that owned four-fifths of...
The company they were trying to get control of.
Yeah, a division of Motorola called Fremantle.
I think it's called Fremantle or Free something.
Anyway, yeah, okay, so they wanted to own the whole company, so they had to get rid of the four engineers who were on that plane.
Yes, I heard that, yes.
Yuri Gagarin never got higher than the ladder he was on when they took the picture of him.
In his astronaut suit and capsule, Yuri Gagarin never went into space.
Okay.
The higher he got was on the ladder when they took the picture.
What's that?
William Tompkins said, you know, they saw reptilians on the moon that Neil Armstrong said was actually heard on an audio recording and that he was there On the scene in an underground base near...
It's in Southern California, kind of near Boeing and that area of Southern California, El Segundo, somewhere south of there.
Anyway, during that whole...
And he was there, he heard live, I guess it was Neil Armstrong saying, you know, we're here and they're telling us to leave.
And that he showed these craft where all the reptilian craft were up on the ledge.
Someone made a drawing of it.
Actually, I guess Will William Tompkins made a drawing of it.
It's all my interview.
I want you to watch my interview and then I'd love to talk to you about it.
Okay, I don't believe it.
You don't believe it?
Okay, well this is apparently what he's saying.
He's not the only one who's told this story.
I'm trying to save you.
Dinosaurs friendly with man in South America.
According to the stones of Dr.
Javier Cabrera, found in the Andes.
Mark Richards talks about a race called the Raptors.
They're highly intelligent and they're working with our Air Force and our military right now.
They used to eat us, but now they've changed sides and they're highly intelligent, they have space travel, etc.
So it's very possible that this guy is telling the truth.
The Albuquerque Tramway was built because they needed a way to get all the material for the Joint US ET Base up there.
You know about that one?
The Joint ET Base where?
On the top of the Sandia Mountains.
At the top of where the tramway is.
Okay, that makes perfect sense.
We know that HAARP guided the type of hurricane into New Orleans, right?
There's no doubt about that, right?
Yeah, I mean, a lot of these, you know, there's a guy out who's reporting a lot of the storms that are...
Look, we have this thing called weather wars.
You agree with that?
They're guiding all kinds of...
They're causing...
There's a tectonic weapon causing earthquakes.
They're fighting using those weapons.
When we hear about an earthquake in Iran, obviously it's being hit.
Recent earthquakes in Italy, middle of Italy, demolishing towns, coming out of nowhere.
Earthquakes?
Yeah.
These are wars.
I mean, these are between countries, but also, I think, from what I understand from Mark Richards, there are also attacks on ETs, underground bases, stuff like that.
Okay.
How many rockets do you think we have that are man-approved?
In other words, we can put men in them.
I think rockets are pretty old-fashioned technology, so I don't know.
I think Delta IV, Thor, Sea Launch.
And they used the Ronald Reagan launch facility to launch those guys and they launched at least One every day to do all the work they've got to do up in space.
Okay, here's the names of the NASA resignations I have who resigned on the day that Apollo 11 returned in July 1969.
Bill Hess, Chief NASA Scientist at Houston, Elbert King, Geologist, Curator of Lunar Samples in the Lunar Receiving Laboratory, P.R. Bell, Chief of Lunar Receiving Laboratory, and Donald Weiss, National Academy of Sciences.
NASA changed the dates of their resignation so they didn't occur all on that date.
Okay, and they resigned as a result of what?
Finding out it was faked.
Sorry?
Finding out that it was faked.
Oh, alright.
And that was what date?
Would be July, would have been what, the 23rd or 24th?
Of what year?
Of 69 when they went to the moon.
The day that Apollo, they brought the stuff to the Lunar Receiving Laboratory.
That's when they found out it was fake.
And those are the four guys that resigned.
Okay, well, I don't know.
It's crazy.
We've got so many witnesses now talking about, you know, our bases on the Moon and Mars.
Yeah, because that's what they want to sell.
All right.
Okay, just a second.
Osama bin Laden died in Kuwait in 2001.
That's at least one.
I mean, there's no doubt about it.
He was dead by the time the SEAL team supposedly went after a fake Osama bin Laden.
Glad we agreed on that.
We know that TWA 800 was shot down by a U.S. submarine, right?
No doubt about that, right?
Okay, fair enough.
That coincides with the fact that it was shot down, yes.
Right.
Yeah, I didn't know necessarily where it was shot down from, but I knew it was shot down.
Arrow Air, Gander, Douglas DC-8, that crash you probably wouldn't know anything about.
But the public was told it was a ice, icing.
They were bringing U.S. soldiers back.
And there was a bomb planted in it, in Cairo, set to go off on the takeoff from Gander where they had to refuel.
And I think it was Bush who was present there.
He said, bury the airplane, which they did.
And it was a terrorist bomb that knocked the Aero Air out of the air.
Not sure about that one.
I am.
Okay.
United Airlines 585, Boeing 737 Colorado Springs, and US Air 427, Boeing 737 out of Pittsburgh, both pilot suicides.
In the United Airlines one, and both of them, that directly affected me because they were claiming that the yaw damper...
Oh, no, no, that was the TW-800.
In both of these, they were claiming that the yaw damper created a hard-over on the rudder that the pilot was unable to control.
That's bullshit because...
I've done heart over chest and it only takes 80 pounds and you can do 80 pounds with your little finger.
What happened in the United Airlines one is the pilot and co-pilot or girlfriend and boyfriend When they showed up at the airplane that morning, the girl had told him, the captain, that she found out that he had been with another girl the other night, and that was the end of them.
They argued all the way down to Colorado Springs, a 20-minute flight, and when they got on short final, He said, well, if I can't have you, nobody's going to have you.
And he took the controls and put the airplane into a half roll like that and then pulled it straight in.
And she exerted so much power going to the other side, she actually twisted that metal wheel 40 degrees around before they crashed it.
U.S. 427, the Boeing 737, same thing about the yacht amper.
It's just pure bullshit, cannot happen, would not happen.
All right, well, what about Jack John, you know, Jack, you know, the son, Kennedy, the Kennedy who was in the airline accident with his wife?
What about it?
That was shot down.
Pardon?
It was shot down.
It was?
Yeah.
That's what I heard.
He was killed.
They took him out.
I believe that that's certainly possible.
He was an expert pilot.
There was no pilot error.
Oh, I didn't believe in an expert pilot.
So we'll have to go over that one.
Okay, so anyway, Silk Air 185, Boeing 737 on Malaysia.
There's no doubt about that because it was investigated by Malaysia.
They admitted it was a pilot suicide.
Those three suicides are there.
American Airlines 1524 out of LaGuardia claiming that The airplane was upset by the 747 taking off in front of them, and the co-pilot overreacted and knocked the tail off.
The American Airlines plane.
Absolute bullshit.
Cannot happen.
Did not happen.
Yeah, it sounds like that.
And not only that, but there's pictures of cameras along that route that saw the explosion from the bomb in the AF cargo.
Ballard was the agreement with the Navy on the search for the Azores.
Siegfried and Roy...
I'll bet you don't know that one.
Okay, give it a try.
Go ahead.
Roy died of some disease, and between Steve Wynn and some other powerful people in Las Vegas, they got Roy's second cousin, Underwent plastic surgery.
He looked like Roy anyway, but underwent the plastic surgery and taught him how to handle animals to keep the act going because there was just too much money involved.
And they couldn't afford to let that just drop.
So they hired the second cousin, and that's why he got bit.
Fascinating.
All right.
Fair enough.
Jesus never lived religious fantasy.
we know that.
The shuttle...
Number one.
Challenger.
The one that the school teacher got called in.
The reason and they hired what's-his-name at Los Alamos to check that.
The reason that that thing blew up Was one of the hold down, there's four hold on clamps that hold the rocket down as they fired the ignition, so that all the ignitions are going and everything is cool, then these snap shut.
And one of them was sabotaged not to open.
And that's what tore the side of the...
Okay.
But you want to know that I have a guy who died, who I interviewed, who was on a Navy ship that was right in the vicinity, that the capsule hit the sea, that the people were seen inside of it, they were still alive, they were on their way to rescue it, and someone...
NASA told them not to.
The ship was turned away.
They died.
And I can't remember why.
It's Ed.
His first name's Ed, and it's on my website.
You can listen to him.
He got a phone call shortly after he did the interview with me, not long after.
He was investigating the Kennedy assassination and the Challenger disaster because he was on the side of the Kennedy, the Challenger disaster.
A lot of the people that were on the boat were given promotions and early retirement, all kinds of packages not to say anything about seeing the capsule there and all of that.
Anyway, he reported this story.
He picked up the phone.
His wife was there.
He received a phone call, and he fell dead.
They sent a pulse through the phone and killed him.
And his wife was scared to death.
She ran out of the house.
That's what happened.
And he's somebody I interviewed.
Fascinating.
The only thing I would say to that is, how would they live after hitting the water so hard in the capsule?
Well, there's a parachute.
You know, the capsule comes down with, I guess, a parachute, I think, as I understand.
There was no parachute.
I don't know what it is.
He said, this is what they said.
They even saw that they were alive.
Oh, I see.
Okay, thanks.
I'll check on that.
I mean, I don't know if all of them were, but I believe the woman was alive.
There's no way he would lie.
Guaranteed.
So Perry Spalter, in her book that you're going to buy, Gravity, Force, and the Sun, not only proves that Newton's universal law of gravitation is wrong, but then that makes wrong the Einstein's theory of relativity, because that's based on Newton's law of gravitation.
Yeah, and I've heard, of course, that's wrong.
The color of the sky on the moon is saffron yellow.
Not sure I've heard that one.
I know you talked in my prior interview, you might have mentioned that.
A black hole is a car wash for suns.
In other words, when the sun starts to burn out, they roll it into a black hole, and it comes out already new to do its thing, which is to produce planets.
Okay.
I have been hearing that there is some cleansing aspect to black holes.
There is what?
A cleansing aspect.
Actually, one of my witnesses, Cameron, who went to ground, he used to say that.
Do you know anything about the F-19 or the F-117A? It's been a while.
You know, I need more than that, more than the plane number to remember the story.
The F-19 was going to be the next airplane in line, but either the story that some of us put out about the F-19 had to be squashed, so they named the...
Another airplane called the F-117A, the stealth fighter, and the 64 F-19s went to Israel.
And the reason they went to Israel is because the guy that took over from Kelly Johnson, Ben Rich, He was actually Jewish, born in the Philippines, to a very wealthy Jewish family, was inserted into Lockheed, and he was the highest ranking Mossad agent west of the Mississippi.
Head of Lockheed.
And the way they got the F-19 through was to build the 117A and ordered twice the amount of parts because it used the same gear, same engine, same...
Well, I have heard, I think it's the F-35, which is just a black hole for, in essence, a lot of money going into the black budget on purpose.
I believe so.
That it could have been, you know...
Yeah, there's a cover up there, definitely.
Cold fusion is true.
We find so many people that they killed over trying to prove it's true, but it is true.
Cold fusion.
Absolutely.
What?
Yes.
And also the power for Navy ships is not fission, it's now fusion.
And we're told that fusion can't be developed yet.
But in fact, it's powering most of the Navy ships.
Well, this is what David Adair works on.
And I'm going to be interviewing David Adair again.
He just called me while we were here.
So that's what he worked on.
He created a fusion engine.
And he was brought to Area 51 when he was 17 years old.
Shown an ET craft that was conscious.
He climbed all over it.
It let him turn it on.
And he connected with it in some powerful way.
And he basically was told it was a fusion.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but I don't believe anything that Adair says.
Why?
Well, because he says he went to Area 51...
In 1972, and he flew over it, and he knew it was Area 51 because they had two runways, two massive runways.
They didn't build the second runway until the late 80s.
They didn't have to because...
The original runway was built not knowing that there was so much underground stuff there, and it caved in.
And that's when the F-170s started flying out.
And they couldn't fly it as often as they wanted to because they could only use part of it because of this cave-in.
And that's when they designed and built the second runway.
Okay.
And the second runway was built in, what are you saying?
What year?
I'll get you an exact date.
It's the late 80s.
Fair enough.
We can ask him.
There's no such thing as hadrons, Higgs boson.
You don't think so?
The CERN experiments is complete bullshit.
ET had to shut it down or else it was going to make a big blow up.
Okay, I've been told something different.
I've been told that it is, CERN is basically, they're building an interdimensional portal that goes to the Draco system, which allows the reptoids, what are called the reptoids, to bring in large equipment, and that they have to keep that gate open, and that's mainly what they're doing at CERN. Okay, don't believe it.
Stonehenge rocks were moved around to prevent...
Figuring out what they meant.
April Glaspy was the one that assured Saddam Hussein that the US would take no action if he attacked Kuwait.
Do you remember her?
Yes, I remember that story.
The Speed of Sound was broken by Slick Goodland, who worked for Bell, not Chuck Yeager.
And those of us that know that get pissed off every time we see Chuck Yeager taking the credit for that when it was Slick.
And those tapes are hidden in the NASA files.
We gave NASA an SR-71 in 1990, and the deal was They told Gorbachev that if he would not supply any help to Saddam Hussein, including personnel, weapons, ammunition, everything, that they would give him an SR-71, support it for five years, and teach their people to fly it.
And I have a person that saw it there, there's no doubt.
All right.
Clones are real.
Absolutely.
You know I interviewed Norm Bergram based on your recommendation, and then he disappeared.
You know that?
No.
I knew that What's-Her-Name interviewed him, and the tape, when she got home, had gone bad.
I'm the only one who's interviewed him.
Was the tape okay?
Yeah, it's online.
I want you to watch it.
He disappeared right after I interviewed him.
They took him back to go to work.
He said, I've got a team.
They're taking me back to work.
They're building me a whole lab.
He was like 85?
Yeah, I know.
Or whatever it was.
Yeah.
We went there because of you.
Because you told us about the ringmakers of Saturn.
He's a brilliant man.
Right.
We had a fabulous interview.
There was nothing wrong with our tape.
Okay, so it was somebody else.
I don't know who that is.
Your age, your type.
She has a radio show.
The Rainmaker.
I don't know who she is.
Anyway, he disappeared.
So maybe she was there before me.
I don't know.
But he disappeared.
But you need to watch the interview.
You'd love it.
Sun has 40 ET civilizations living inside it.
Fascinating.
That's all I got.
Okay, closing statement?
Closing statement.
What?
Like what?
Just say, you know, it's been great talking to you, John, and we've loved being here, and can you say some closing statement about what it's like to have been investigating this story for this long?
Are you frustrated?
Are you happy?
Are you finding new things every day?
What would you say?
That it's really interesting to have you here and telling me the nice things that you said about me tonight.
I really appreciate that.
I needed that.
I needed that, Gary.
So let me tell you that everybody wants to know what we're doing on Earth.
All you have to know is you need to live your life with integrity and without envy, hate, and greed.
And you remember Steve Jobs, when he passed away, his family was standing around his bed, and what did he say just 30 seconds before he died?
He said, Oh, wow.
Oh, wow!
Oh, wow!
And what he was seeing was the entrance place to the fourth dimension, and that's where you meet all the people you knew in your previous lives, and then you go to the life review, and they show you everything that ever happened to you in 3D, and you better have been good, because it's there.
All right.
Can you tell me, have you enjoyed being an investigator in this subject?
It's been interesting.
Sometimes it's exciting.
Sometimes it's frustrating.
Sometimes you'll meet with somebody who you think really has it together, and they won't agree with something you say, and that's hard to take.
But not many.
Okay.
Well, it's a joy for us to see you again.
And I hope we can have you on the show and do this long distance as well and get into even more stuff.
I've got questions for you that's based on some of the stuff I've been hearing.
And I'd love to get your take on things.
We didn't have time today.
We really delved into what you've got.
But I'd love to get your take on things as they come along because you've got a huge backlog of information and knowledge that you've built over the years.
Okay, Carrie, it's been great, I'm telling you.
I really enjoyed having you up here.
Thank you.
And I know people really love you.
Of all my interviews, they always say, we love your John Lear interviews.
So, thank you very much.
And thank you for your service to humanity.
Great.
Thank you.
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