FRIDAY 1PM PT: MAXINE TAYLOR RE ASTROLOGY TRUMP & ELECTORAL COLLEGE
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Thank you.
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am here today with Maxine Taylor, a renowned astrologer, and I'm going to be talking with her about the Trump Astrology Institute.
his astrology chart, and also upcoming events that are starting to crop up in the astrology that we're seeing, and also the Electoral College vote.
That is on, I believe, the 20th and how that may affect things as well as his inauguration date and so on.
So these are the kinds of things we'll be looking at and I want to welcome Maxine Taylor to the show.
I'm going to give her a short bio and bring her on the screen here.
So Maxine, go ahead and say hello to everyone.
Everybody, I'm so glad that you're here with Me and Carrie today, there's so much going on.
I'm sure you can feel that Mercury's getting ready to go retrograde.
So Carrie and I have a lot to talk about.
Wonderful.
And just in terms of your short bio, I'm going to say you're based in Atlanta.
You're a true visionary with over 45 years of experience in spiritual work.
She's an internationally known astrologer, energy healer, spiritual coach, teacher, speaker, and published author.
One of her greatest gifts is the ability to awaken people to the truth of who they are and empower them to transform their lives.
And it is her mission to uncover spiritual truth and apply it to the practical aspects of living.
Mm-hmm.
And she has been doing this, as it says, for over 45 years.
And that's a lovely bio, and I'm taking that from your website there.
So, Maxine, back to you.
Let's launch into this and tell me what you want me to look at, because I've got some charts you sent me, and we're going to put those on the screen in order of however you'd like to do this.
Thank you, Carrie.
And, of course, I know that you have...
Wonderful astrological insight because every time we've been on the air together you have added so much to the ongoing conversation so please jump in at any point.
Thank you.
That's very kind of you.
But we're here to hear from you so go right ahead.
Well I'd like to start first of all with a chart that you may have in your file that we've looked at a zillion times.
But I'd like to bring everybody up on it.
This is what we call a diurnal chart.
This is the chart that I use to predict the outcome of an election or what's really going on on a particular day.
And this is Donald Trump's diurnal for the inauguration.
And I have to back up and say that when I did this diurnal and the diurnals for all of the candidates for whom I had birth times, We had an approximate birth time for Hillary, had one for Jeb Bush,
had one for Bernie Sanders, for Tim McCain, McCain, I forget his last name, something, and it tells us exactly what is going on in a person's life.
Now, I compared the current diurnals to President Obama's diurnals and you could see that first of all the birth time has to be right on the money for the diurnal to be accurate and Obama's birth time is absolutely on the money because if you will recall each one of those diurnals was absolutely on point and what I look for traditionally in the diurnal particularly if somebody who's running for president of the United States It's
something up there at the midheaven, at the top of the chart, where the career is.
And as you can see, there's nothing in Donald Trump's chart up there.
But there is Mars, action, energy, shoot from the hip, right there at the ascendant, which is the most personal point in the chart.
Mars is what we throw ourselves into.
The ascendant is on the cusp of the first house, which is the me first chart.
House rather and so Mars is 24 Pisces the ascendant is 24 Pisces this is transiting Mars and when I looked at this chart I At first said I don't believe he's going to be president because it's such a me me me chart.
It's not a Yes, my career has clicked into place as time went by I realized that this really represents Trump and so I changed my opinion and And said, while I don't have an exact time for Hillary, I do have this time and I feel like, you know, this is going to be a very interesting inauguration.
So, needless to say, Kerry, I sent you two inauguration charts because we can't, as you know, we can't pin Trump down to anything.
He's got that Southern Uranus conjunction in his 10th house and traditionally The inauguration, the actual putting the left hand on the Bible, raising the right hand, and taking the oath of office, occurs somewhere after the half hour.
At first, I did a chart which I sent you, Kerry, for 12-15.
I thought, well, Trump will take 15 minutes and then he'll have 45.
But we don't know that because of his unpredictability.
I sent you two charts, which you have, and I'm kind of thinking that it's...
Well, I'm thinking that we're going to have to wait until we sit there with a stopwatch and actually time when he takes office.
But the two charts, which we can talk about because they are so fascinating.
One is for $1,215, and the other...
Hang on, I'm getting...
Here we go.
Here are the inauguration charts.
Okay.
Carrie, I don't know if you're going to be able to put them up on the screen so everybody can see them, so I'm going to hold both of these up as a comparison.
This is a very simplified chart, and as you look at these charts, you can see that in a 15-minute time period, The only planet that changes houses is the yellow planet, which is the Sun.
Now, the Sun is the ego.
It's the giver of life.
It is the center of our world.
If Trump is inaugurated at approximately 1215, which is very possible.
Very, very possible.
Let me see.
Yes.
Let me go with this one.
We have a 10th house son.
The son is the power.
The 10th house is the top position.
This would fit along with his birth chart.
Okay.
And we can talk about it.
However, if he lets the other people do some talking, a little more talking, if they have a choir, a prayer, If Pence takes the oath of office first, it might go to 1230 p.m., in which case the Sun moves from the 10th house into the 9th.
Now the 10th house is the authority.
It's the power.
The 9th house is a foreign travel.
It's expanding our borders.
It's principles.
It's ideas.
Big picture ideas.
However, with the Sun, Behind the midheaven, the sun is in zero degrees of Aquarius, so it's an entirely new sign.
And Aquarius, as you know, Carrie, from your studies of astrology, and those of you who study astrology or practice astrology know that when you deal with an Aquarian, you know that they broke the mold when they designed the Aquarian nature, because no two Aquarians are alike.
They do their own thing.
They march to their own drumbeat.
And so this is the nature of Trump's presidency.
It's a new start, a new beginning, but with the sun behind the midheaven, he is the power behind the throne.
So my question then is, who is or what is the power?
And this is why I'm feeling that it's more than likely the 1215 chart, simply because Trump is the power.
When we look at his birth chart, Trump is the power.
So, Carrie, if you'd like, I can go through the inauguration chart.
Well, actually, what I would like to do is get to the Electoral College.
Now, I don't know if you made any kind of chart.
I know you sent me a USA chart, but I'm not sure what kind of chart you can do for that day.
We don't have...
Unfortunately, we don't have birth data on the Electoral College.
We would need the exact minute, of course, to get an accurate chart.
What I did, though, was I looked at the United States chart and at Trump's chart because on the 19th, which is when the Electoral College votes, that is the day that Mercury officially Oh, very interesting.
Okay, that's fascinating.
You know, we have a situation where whoever is watching this will have known and been watching the whole, you know, Russia affected the election, supposedly, even though there's no direct evidence of that, especially in terms of the election itself.
What they're saying is Prior to the election, there was some Russian hacking, if that's even true.
So this is a very controversial area.
I can say that it is interesting that there is, in the media at least, sort of a gearing up for something.
Even stories being planted in the media to try to create some kind of Issue around, I believe, the Electoral College vote that day.
So that if the Electoral College vote should end up being surprising, this is what we really want to see.
Because then they will have plans to move on something.
And there could be all kinds of chaos.
Now, in theory...
That won't happen.
And things will just go along as they are.
But this is worth looking at.
Which is, you know, partially why you're here today.
Is to kind of see what is in Trump's chart.
What does it look for?
Even if you...
I don't know if you did a progress chart for the entire year.
Or you have anything like that.
But I've got a lot of different things here from you.
So I'm trying to kind of shuffle between them.
And...
And it is interesting, Sun in Aquarius.
Are you saying the Sun is going to actually change degrees during the time when he's inaugurated?
Not during the time.
It's a zero degree.
It's a whole new start.
And when you have a zero degree, you start with like a baby.
You start at the very, very beginning.
In Aquarius, it is the unpredictable, the unusual.
Which I think fits him to a T. It does match his birth chart.
So you've got his own birth chart having sort of, well, an air sign.
He's got Gemini on the 10th house, I see.
Torus on midheaven.
Sorry?
Torus on midheaven, but he has three planets in Gemini in the 10th house.
Yes.
Right.
So what would be happening there is...
It's sort of a compatibility, in essence, between the air signs.
So his energy and the energy of the day will, to some degree, be matched.
It is interesting, though, in terms of you're saying Mercury retrograde.
Mercury goes retrograde in what sign on the 20th?
Mercury goes retrograde in 15 degrees of Capricorn.
And in Trump's chart, that's his fifth house of Gambling and children and fun and taking a chance and enjoying himself.
As you know, with Mercury retrograde, it's hurry up and wait.
And when I first saw that Mercury went retrograde on the day of the electoral vote, it occurred to me that there might be a recount or a redo, something that has to be redone, involved with everybody on that day because of the Mercury retrograde that means you and me and all of us I did my own chart Because my own diurnal chart,
you know the diurnal chart is what I use to pinpoint things and you can see the Mars on his ascendant and his diurnal inaugural chart is right on the money I couldn't do a diurnal on the 19th for him because I don't know where he's going to be and On the 19th,
if he's going to be out thanking everybody around the country, if he's going to be in New York, if he's going to be in D.C. So there was no way I could do an actual chart, a diurnal chart.
However, on the 19th, his fifth house of creativity and fun and games is triggered, but he's got the moon in the first house.
Now you might say, well, what does that mean?
Well, it means the emphasis is on himself.
And this can go either way for them.
I'm looking right now in the ephemeris.
I don't know.
Mars is in zero of Pisces that day.
There is nothing indicating a yay or an aye, so I'm gonna say business as usual.
Okay.
Business as usual.
I know that a couple of people, or at least one person, in the Electoral College said that he or she was going to vote their conscience, but without a birth chart on the Electoral College, we can't say.
So, looking at that is one thing.
Then, I looked at the United States chart for the 19th as well, because I've got all these charts here, Carrie, bear with me.
Again, there is nothing yay or nay.
I'm looking at it right here just to triple check.
Mercury goes retrograde in the 8th house of the Treasury, of secrets, of other people's money, but that doesn't mean the Electoral College per se.
So again, there is nothing except And here's the thing that looks so interesting.
Venus is on the Midheaven, the very top of the United States chart, which it will be there that evening.
Okay, the evening of the inauguration or the Electoral College?
The Electoral College.
The day Mercury goes retrograde, Venus is on the United States Midheaven.
It blesses the presidency.
It blesses The office of president.
All right.
And so you might say, well, what does that mean?
I'm going to go with business as usual because it's a blessing.
Now, with Mercury retrograde, will they have a recap?
This whole thing has been so different, as we know, from any presidential race that we've ever had, any election we've ever had.
So it is truly Difficult to predict.
However, with Venus on the Midheaven, the presidency is blessed.
Our current president is blessed.
The incoming president will be taken under Venus' wing because Trump is already acting like he's president.
So I'm going to include him in that and say no news is good news and we just move forward.
Now I've got more to say about Trump's forecast.
And the United States forecast in detail when we finished trying to look at this as microscopically, microcosmically.
Sure.
Going on in both charts, which are very interesting.
And what is so interesting, there's something here I wanted to mention to you while I'm thinking of it, Carrie, because it's here we go.
As an astrologer, I've got charts all over the place, you can imagine.
Okay, I'm going to step out on a limb and say that in April of 2017, when Mars sits on Trump's mid-heaven, at the same time that Mercury is retrograde, Venus is retrograde, Jupiter is retrograde, Saturn is retrograde, and Pluto is retrograde.
Five of the ten are retrograde.
This is when he's going to Move upward, take more command.
With the retrogrades there, it's probably a sense of redoing something that has already been done.
We'll have to wait and see in what area this takes place.
But that's what's going to be happening in April, so we've got to give him the first quarter.
No, he's not going to be sitting there doing nothing, but he's not going to assert himself.
And the office of president the way he will starting in April.
And I'm also, once he takes office, I'm going to be doing regular reports on him on my YouTube channel, Maxine Taylor Astrologer, to keep everybody posted on what is triggered in his chart so that we'll have the roadmap.
We have no idea how he's going to use it.
Remember, he has a Sun-Uranus conjunction, and that means he's a showman.
He's a rebel.
He's going to do it his way.
He's not going to listen to other people's suggestions.
He's going to do it his way.
We've come to see that.
We've come to know it.
But I will keep everybody abreast of what is going on in his chart.
I have not done that before, but I'll do this now.
And I think we're going to start seeing a pattern.
I hope we're going to start seeing it better.
So, April.
April.
And I haven't told anybody that.
I'm telling you that.
All right.
Okay.
Well, that goes over the air here.
So, in essence, with regard to what's happening, the inauguration, you know, the difference between, you were just saying, you know, where the son is, when he's inaugurated, etc.
How big of a difference is that going to make?
It's going to make...
A very interesting difference, and I'll tell you why.
Wherever the Sun is, that's the center of your world, the center of your life, okay?
Now we know that in Trump's birth chart, and I've got all my charts here in one big plump.
In his birth chart, He has the son in the 10th house.
That's why he is the leader wherever he goes.
He insists on being the leader.
It would make sense that his inauguration chart would also carry the ego.
That's the son is the ego.
Carry the ego into the 10th house as the leader.
This is the position that he claims innately.
He has Leo rising and Leo rules by divine worth.
They are worthy of being king or queen.
And so it's innate to him.
If the inauguration goes later than that and the son is in the ninth house, he is not so much the leader as he is the person who goes out to other countries, to other people, and expands our borders, expands our The reach of his reach, the reach of the United States.
It is a much broader picture.
Let me throw something out in regard to this.
Because my understanding of the Ninth House is, as you say, it's international.
It's world travel.
And it's also going into sort of delving into, you know, deeper thought.
You know, understanding the world in much deeper ways.
Is it possible that there will be some extenuating circumstances, should there be the later inauguration, that have to do with world events?
In other words, something of a focus at the time where the focus is a bit split.
On the one hand, he's being inaugurated.
On the other hand, there's something on the world scene that is taking a lot of attention.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And he will be involved in it because this is his chart.
Sure.
And I can tell you the minute I get my hands on that moment that he is inaugurated, that chart's going up, I'm going to be recording it and I'll be doing it in detail.
And I'll share it with you at that point because now it's It's a question of speculation on that area.
But the rest of the chart holds.
The rest of the chart.
Now, you know, in his birth chart, there is a great deal of 12th house power.
And so there'll be many things going on behind the scenes, as there logically would be.
You don't present everything that you're doing out to the world for obvious reasons.
That will come into play Big time as well.
And I have to agree with you that that ninth house activity could absolutely be going on at the time.
Things are happening so quickly.
Like I said, I can't even keep up.
Absolutely.
Now, there is more to look at in terms of his birth chart that I'm going to try to bring on the screen here and see if we can kind of look at that.
I'd love to do that.
I'd love to do that.
Because there will be people listening and watching this show who have not seen what you've had before, what we discussed in the past.
And so why don't we kind of go over the chart, maybe at least go over it, you know, with broad strokes, I guess you might say.
I would love to.
I think that's a great idea.
I'm holding up a very simplified version of the chart.
Carrie, do you already have it up?
I have his detailed one up.
Do you want to go with that one or do you want another one?
I sent you the...
I thought, I hope...
Gee, I hope I sent you this very simple one of his chart.
Okay, no.
I've got the colorful one, basically.
Okay, cool.
Is that accurate?
Oh, yes.
I simplified it because...
The colorful one has the aspect lines and there's a lot going on.
I have an idea.
You keep the colorful one up and I'm just going to keep the simple one up and we'll cover our bases that way.
Sure.
Okay, when we look at Donald Trump's chart, we see that he has a 29 degree Leo ascendant.
Leo rules by divine right.
29th degree means he's finishing up the lesson of kingship, which fits so perfectly.
The ruler of his ascendant is the Sun.
And when we look at his tenth house, the tenth house is the public image, it's the career, it's what the world sees of you.
First we have Uranus up there.
Uranus says that his whole public image, his whole public persona is unpredictable and rebellious and he's going to do it his way.
The north node up there says it's a new Game for him in this incarnation.
He's really enjoying it.
And the son there says, I am the chief.
I'm it.
And he was, he, in other words, was born to be an unpredictable leader.
That's a brushstroke and it tells it.
Looking at his 11th house of friends and group activities, whenever we have 11th house planets, This shows us that the person is a disguised Aquarian, just as his 10th house planets say that he is a disguised Capricorn.
Capricorn works hard and climbs to the top of the mountain where there's only room for one and where the view is magnificent.
He lives on a mountaintop.
He lives in Trump Tower in the penthouse, for goodness sake.
And so here we have the 11th house.
He has Mercury In Cancer, in the 11th, Mercury is our conscious mind.
In Cancer, it's a very self-protective sign.
He is.
He's very sensitive.
He tweets like crazy anytime he feels attacked.
So there is a sensitivity there.
Saturn is where we have our responsibility.
We respond to our ability.
And this is what he feels with groups.
Saturn is the leader.
And so Saturn is the should, And ought to plan it.
This is the message given to him by the older authority figures in his life when he was growing up.
So he should be the leader in groups.
And of course, we see this even now.
He loves being with groups.
He's doing his thank you tour around the United States where he's still the leader and still with his groups.
Venus, which is beauty and love, It's next to Saturn also.
So wherever Venus is, is what we love.
So there is a love of humanity.
There is a love of people.
Some people might say, well, Saturn is fear.
Well, it can be fear, but I don't think he's afraid of people.
I think he knows how to be the leader with people.
He knows how to handle them.
Now, this 12th house, very, very The 12th house deals with our subconscious.
It also deals, mundanely, with behind-the-scenes activities.
Anybody with 12th house planets knows that they need privacy and solitude at least once a day, and that there's a lot that goes on that other people don't see.
Well, what is going on that other people don't see?
Pluto, the planet of control and transformation, Mars, the planet of war, it's in his 12th house, but it's conjunct the ascendant.
When it's next to or conjunct the ascendant, it affects the personality.
And we can see that Donald Trump is a pugilist.
He loves to fight.
I mean, even in the debates, he adored fighting.
Look at The Apprentice.
I mean, he set people against each other and enjoyed watching them.
He played them against each other.
Like a game of chess, and he was the ultimate leader in the 10th house.
You know, you're fired, or with one person, you're hired.
But with Pluto in the 12th house, Pluto is behind-the-scenes control.
Pluto can be behind-the-scenes manipulation, and this is just part of what goes on.
So we have two powerful planets.
Taking place behind the scenes.
A lot of people said after the election that Trump changed his public image.
When he met with Obama the first time, he was a very different Trump.
He was relaxed.
He was impressed with the importance of the job.
I would even say, watching the news, he seemed humbled and wanted to get with President Obama on a regular basis.
Well, he hadn't done that.
And that's just how it is, because he has this great need to be out front.
With this 12th house activity, there's a lot going on behind the scenes that we will not be privy to, and that's just how it is.
Now look at his second house of money.
He has Neptune there, which is the dream, and so he's got great visions of how to create money, and he has!
He has.
Absolutely.
He has put his visions into operation and it's got Jupiter there.
Jupiter is the great benefic.
So it gives a great deal of money.
Now Neptune can also dissolve money.
So you can make it with one hand and it dissolves, so to speak.
It's also the deceiver, though.
And it also rules illusion.
It also rules the movie business, by the way.
Which, in theory, he might have been a financer of movies if he didn't get into it.
Into being a president at this time.
So I do think that there is, just to back up a little bit, Pluto, where Pluto is, can also be where there's some dark stuff going on.
So he may have some dark relationships in the past.
That is also, the 12th house has to do with prisons, isolation, retreating from the world, so to speak.
Meditation, if you will, but going deep.
It also governs atomic energy, if I recall.
And so there's those aspects.
So I just wanted to bring that back to the 12th.
But in terms of the second house, the money, the material things, yeah, I mean, it makes perfect sense in a certain sense that he would have Jupiter and Neptune right there because he is a dreamer and yet he makes dreams come true.
Yeah.
There's something around his financial success, I would say, that people are often mystified by him in a funny way.
I find it fascinating that all during this time, nobody has been able to say what he's going to do.
He is a person who his actions...
are not known and I think that the chart actually does reflect this so those that may be skeptical about astrology may be interested to know that at least from my point of view when I first saw his chart I thought you know he's a Gemini in the tenth house he's got a lot of humor but he's got a lot of sort of trickster elements And then he's got the Neptune in the second.
There is a sort of a layer of deception going on there.
And it has to do with the material world, I would say.
So he's something maybe of a magician in that sense.
Kind of, as again, a showman must be.
So it's not all bad, but it is worth noting.
There's something else I'd like to say about Pluto and Mars in the 12th.
And I hesitated to bring this up, but Pluto rules sex.
Mars rules sex.
They both rule Scorpio, and I'm not casting aspersions on a sign or on a person, but in light of what came out during the campaign about his sexual exploits,
I feel like there's so much that was hidden and that bus, that video of the bus, showed the tip of the iceberg that that can be what we're looking at here too.
However, what is motivating Trump subconsciously is control, power, Okay, fair enough.
I would say also, there's something, you know, Mars in the 12th also has to do with bringing forth secrets.
In other words, a real push to find out the truth.
Because you're looking, the Mars going the forward energy and the 12th house has to do with the hidden, you know, darkness.
Going into the darkness to find out the truth.
So there can be, for example, I would even think that was a good Placement for an investigator.
The 8th house is more that, although I hear what you're saying, what I find is that, you know, what happens in the 12th house stays in the 12th house.
That, because it rules the subconscious, we don't see the 12th house clearly.
We don't see our own 12th house clearly.
It's back here.
And so, yes, there can be a lot of detective work But it's not the same as the 8th house that digs for it.
Although I must say, Pluto...
Well, with an outgoing personality coupled with going deep into the 12th house, you may actually have the truth coming out.
You see?
And then the Uranian sort of sun conjunction.
In other words, these things working together.
I don't know.
You know, it looks like, wouldn't he have a square between Mars and the sun in the 10th?
No, he has a sextile between Mars and the Sun.
The Sun is 22, Gemini, Mars is 26.
All right, so that's a compatibility.
So again, that indicates flow.
So getting something in the dark and bringing it out into the public.
Possibly.
He's also got quite an active 11th house, which is the public arena.
So this is not a guy who stays hidden, in my opinion.
He's got hidden things.
Possibly also the 12th house has to do with hidden things from the past.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And as I said, I hesitated to bring that up.
But as an astrologer, I have to tell it because there it is.
Because we have...
People watching this show who know astrology, and they would say, well, why didn't you talk about Pluto and Mars in the 12th that way?
So this is simply to balance.
Now, look at this fourth.
Look at the fourth house.
South node conjunct the moon.
Wherever the moon is, his moon is in Sagittarius.
Sag exaggerates.
They don't lie, but they do exaggerate for effect.
The Sun conjunct Uranus says things for shock value.
But the moon here, wherever the moon is, is what we are instinctively drawn to.
And the fourth house is home and family.
And so this message comes from Mani.
Mani's message is indicated by the moon.
And wherever the moon is, is where Mani told us to look for our emotional security.
And so it's in home, family, Real estate, there it is right there.
And this is something he brought forth from a past life, because the South Node is that which we have mastered in past lives.
And we want to use the North Node in order to balance it.
And we all have a North Node and a South Node, so you can see this.
Very interesting.
And he's very tied to his family.
Good grief, they're going to be part of his, I won't say his administration, But it could be part of his administration.
His son-in-law was one of the first people that came to light about who might be involved in his election process, the actual running of the government.
And look at groups here.
This is his cabinet and his friends.
He's going to turn to his friends, of course.
But some of the people he has named To his cabinet position are not necessarily his friends, but they're married to friends or their friends are friends.
So friends are very important to him.
And with three planets in cancer in the 11th house, loyalty is very important to him.
We've seen that.
If you cross him, look out.
That Mars-Pluto thing is going to say, I won't get angry, I'll get eaten.
Yeah, I think that that's a real possibility.
Now, what is his rising again?
I'm not seeing it right there.
29 Leo.
Okay.
29 Leo, the last go-round of I rule by divine right.
And what's so interesting, if we have time, I'll go over the eclipse patterns that are in his chart, because they're active right now.
His home is very important, and You know, moving into the White House and leaving the penthouse.
Well, we know that his wife and son are gonna stay in the penthouse till school is out.
And there, for the first time, the family, the entire family, will not be moving into the White House.
You know, all bets are off, all rules are broken.
Yeah, that is interesting.
Now, what is in the fifth house?
Because on your chart, it's hard to read.
It's the vertex.
The vertex is our karmic role in life.
And this is gambling.
It's children.
It's sex.
It's fun.
It's theater.
It's everything that's enjoyable.
So life is a game.
He wants you to play it.
And that's the Leo ascendant.
Leo says life is a game.
Just play it.
But...
With the sensitivity he brings to the table, if he feels attacked or loses, cancer, he has three plants and cancer, is a crab and it will snap.
It will get back.
Anybody tweets something he doesn't like, he responds immediately.
So we have...
There's that Sun Uranus.
We have a very unique president coming in.
That's for sure.
Now, one thing I wanted to ask you, you sent me a USA chart.
What was that chart for?
That was to be able to look at it.
That was a simplified chart.
I've done the eclipse patterns for the United States.
What I did was I looked at the forecast from today.
Till the inauguration, because so much is happening, as you know, Carrie, on a day-to-day basis to go into the whole year would be exhausting.
So I sent you that chart in case we had time for me to go over what's going on in the U.S. chart between now and And the inauguration.
Well, let's do that.
I think we should take a little time and do that.
I know we want to keep this to around an hour, but that's too tantalizing to just let go.
So if you don't mind.
Not at all.
And I also have Trump's forecast from now.
Oh, all right.
Well, your work is cut out for you then.
I don't want you to go until you tell us what you have to say.
Okay, sweetheart.
Since we're talking about Trump, let me start with Trump.
I know I sent you the birth chart and a simplified chart.
Let me see if I've got it here.
Let me just start talking, otherwise there's dead air.
Every time we have an eclipse, We feel it about a week before it occurs, and they usually occur in pairs, and we feel them until the next pair come along.
But they're strong as three to four months after they occur.
Well, guess what, kids?
We had an eclipse in August, and we had two in September, and they're at their peak right now.
So, let me see.
Oh, here's Trump's natal chart.
Darling, I think I sent you the natal chart that I just used.
The simplified one.
Okay.
But you go ahead.
We're seeing the chart that you're holding up fine.
Excellent.
Okay.
I'm going to describe what those eclipses are triggering in Trump's chart.
This will give you an idea of the way I'm going to be reporting it for the next four years.
Okay.
The August 18th eclipse fell in his sixth house.
This is work Health and service.
It triggered, because it was right behind the seventh cusp, it triggered his Mars and ascendant.
And so he was, you might say, well, if it's behind the seventh house cusp, he was dealing privately with our open enemies.
Yes, he was.
Okay, hindsight being 20-20.
And it triggered his impatience.
It triggered the Mars, the action.
It did beautiful things to his tenth house planets, and so his career looks awesome.
However, he's coming into conflict with authority figures because it's squaring as midheaven.
This is what's going on right now.
That's the first eclipse.
The second eclipse was September 1.
And it fell in his first house.
So this is the me, me, me.
He's doing his thing, his way, no negative aspects, just enjoying the trip, enjoying expressing himself.
The last eclipse, September 16, sat right on his eighth house cusp.
Now, the eighth house is other people's money.
The eighth house cusps.
It deals with secrets.
It deals with sex.
We've already been over that.
This was triggered.
It deals with, well, in light of his businesses and his contracts and divesting his interests in these businesses, which we certainly hope he will do, but we don't know if he's going to or not.
That's the eighth house of other people's money.
You can see that all of this is going on I'm going to talk about something a little advanced.
There is a T cross formed between the eclipse, the tenth house and the fourth house, and the empty arm of that T cross is the second house.
Wherever you have an empty arm of the T cross, that is the focus of the eclipse.
The focus of the eclipse is his own money.
Okay, where do you get that from the third house?
Because the third house, I thought, had to do with communications.
It's not the third house.
It's the eighth house cusp.
Squaring the tenth house.
Okay.
Squaring the fourth.
So you've got a T-cross formed this way.
It empties into the second house.
Oh, the second house.
Okay.
Second house is money.
Yes.
Okay.
I could do volumes on that, but I think it's pretty self-explanatory what's going on right now.
Okay, let's look at that one more way, because I want to know, what you're talking about is sort of him on a personal level in a certain way, and because he's now a public figure who could be Or is going to be our president.
The interesting thing about what you say, this is looking at what's going to happen for him from now to the inauguration.
Am I right?
Correct.
So what is also being triggered in terms of the politics, in terms of, you know, he is doing some, he's choosing his cabinet.
He's also making connections with world leaders.
He's made some statements about China, for example, that are Very interesting.
Could lead to war.
He's also dealing with Obama behind the scenes.
My understanding is to some degree he was shirking I think some of the The national security meetings or something like that, sending, you know, someone else to take them.
In other words, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
That might mean he's more hip than he appears at first glance.
You know, in the sense that they're going to, you've got to understand what goes, you know, behind the scenes politics is not, it's not glad handling.
It can be some very dark stuff.
And again, this gets back to his 12th house.
We also have to deal with the fact that he's owned hotels around the world and you deal with the mob when you're in that kind of situation.
So he can't avoid it.
He can't have avoided it.
There's also a lot about Russia that's being talked about with regard to the people in his administration.
I think the Secretary of State that he's choosing has some Russian ties or background or something.
And is also very linked with oil, you know, and oil and gas, which is very retro, unfortunately, and somewhat suspect in terms of a secretary of state who's supposed to go out, you know, into the international community and deal with them.
We're talking big oil.
That's very old school in my view.
So this is what I'm kind of looking at.
And I'm wondering, can you elaborate, knowing my focus is a little more in that arena?
Yes, absolutely.
Eighth house, let me bottom line for you.
Eighth house is other people's money.
He's making deals.
Okay.
That's what's going on that come into his income.
Right.
All right.
Well, that's interesting.
Neptune rules oil.
Neptune rules oil.
Yeah.
Well, it is interesting in the sense that he is also something, I don't know if you would call him a homebody, but he's definitely focused on home.
Now, when he moves into the White House, that is his home.
Well, it's very interesting because Saturn is on his moon right now.
Saturn is reality.
And remember, his home is his haven.
It's also restriction.
There is an aspect to being president that I find interesting in terms of it's a lot like being an entertainer, a famous entertainer.
In a certain sense, you get restricted.
You have access to the world out there and to the audience and so on, but they see you at select times and places, and then you aren't able to go out In a freeway among society without bodyguards, you know, galore, et cetera, et cetera.
So there's a restrictive element to the home.
There is.
But do you remember, was it last month?
He eluded his bodyguards and went to New York City and went to a restaurant where he met some friends.
Unexpectedly, he showed up and all the diners were excited to see him.
And I thought, dude, Well, no, you know, that's definitely with his personality, especially a Gemini.
You know, the disappearing act.
The sun Uranus up there.
It's got to have the limelight.
It's got to thumb its nose at restriction.
It's got to thumb its nose at authority.
He is the authority.
My God.
Anyway, I'm sure his bodyguards are just, you know, On pins and needles all the time because you never know what he's going to do.
Yeah, I'll drink to that, so to speak.
So what about the USA chart between now and the inauguration?
And then we're going to let you go because, you know, I know I'm overstaying the amount of time you really had for this.
Well, you know, when you and I get to going, there are really four of us.
I always say that.
We could go on forever.
So let me get the United States.
Here we go.
All right.
This is the United States chart.
I'm sure I sent this.
I thought I sent this.
Yes, I have this here.
Oh, thank goodness.
Thank goodness.
Let's talk about the eclipse patterns in the U.S. chart because that is interesting.
Now, the house rulerships are a little different.
In a mundane chart than they are in somebody's birth chart.
So I'm going to interpret this a little bit mundane.
The first eclipse in August, August 18, fell in our 10th house.
The 10th house is the president.
It didn't sit on the moon, but this emphasized the president and in this case the presidency.
It's the public image It's our public image, the United States public image, as well as the outgoing president, the incoming president, and I know President Obama is enjoying the end of his position and has been going out doing some very interesting things.
And of course, there's Trump also doing some very interesting things, but in a different way.
There's our public image to the world.
The emphasis, there is a yacht, and that's formed with two quincunxes.
I'll just say that empties into the fourth house of the United States chart.
So this fourth house deals with a party out of power, domestic affairs, real estate, the land, Farmers, crops, even the weather.
So that while we've got this public image, we're focused on domestic issues.
And I do think that this is what Trump was telling people he was going to be working on.
He was going to be working on domestic issues.
So that would fit.
September 1st eclipse fell in that fourth house of Domestic activity, home, family, real estate, domestic affairs, farmers, and that's what's triggered.
However, September 16th eclipse fell in our 11th house.
And there are a lot of aspects going on, but let me just talk about the houses because in a mundane chart, you're dealing with so many different areas.
The 11th house deals with Congress.
With Congressmen, with legislation, with the Treasury, and with our friends.
Now, these are not our open enemies versus our private enemies, but our friends, our allies.
And that's what's being triggered now.
Okay, when you say something's triggered, though, for the sake of the audience as well...
It's activated.
It's activated, okay.
But is it activated from an...
Okay, in an eclipse, is it activated in a positive way or a negative way or what?
Well, it's activated.
It activates the different planets.
And so if you've got a chart, if it activates the positive...
Planets that are beautifully aspected natally, that's what we're looking at.
If not, for example, we have Saturn in opposition to our Mars in the United States chart, and that is trying to squelch.
Our open enemies are trying to squelch our fervent energy, our action, our passion.
So, there's a positive and a negative on everything.
The first eclipse, the August 18th eclipse, triggered our passion very positively.
The September 1st eclipse, and I've got something I want to say that's not an eclipse that I think you'll find very interesting.
Our September 1st eclipse triggered our rebellion, rioting, rebellion of all types.
And we have this going on regularly now.
It started with a silent march after the election, which ended up in front of Trump power, and then it was followed.
Well, at the same time, there were silent protests around the country, and then they escalated.
That fits perfectly with the rebellion going on.
Our money, by the way, is looking more positive.
There are opportunities for making money as a result of this eclipse.
The September 16th eclipse Triggered our Mars.
And it's like, okay, now we're fighting.
Now we're getting out there.
And it could be because we have a common foe.
Who knows?
But that's what's triggered, what is activated.
There is an aspect that I saw that I found fascinating.
I know that you're very involved in whistleblowers.
You're very involved in looking beneath the surface at what is really going on.
At conspiracies.
At cover-ups.
Yes.
What is so interesting to me, I'm going to give you an aspect here.
Neptune has been in our tenth house for a while.
Neptune moves very slowly.
Neptune dissolves what it touches.
It also fulfills the dream.
It makes a picture that is larger than life.
It is too good to be true sometimes.
It's been in our tenth house of the president.
The president is supposed to fulfill our dream.
Neptune has been squaring our ascendant and our Uranus.
When you have Neptune squaring your ascendant, you can be deceived.
I'm happy to say that Neptune is moving out of range of that square.
It's still hovering a little bit, but it's going to be moving out of range, and after 2017, the scales will be lifted from our eyes.
In other words, there is still a certain amount of deception that's going to be going on through 2017, and the people will not know it.
And when it is known, I say in two years it will be gone and we'll be seeing much more clearly.
I hope I'm making myself clear because I'm talking about Neptune.
Absolutely.
So that's very interesting.
You say it leaves the 10th house but it moves into the 11th.
So what are we talking there?
Congress, legislation, Group activities of every kind.
And as you say, friends.
So a certain Neptunian aspect to who is our friend.
Not being able to tell the difference between friend and foe necessarily.
That kind of thing, perhaps.
Or it can be, I have seen, I've experienced, I'm sure a lot of people have, Neptune fulfills the dreams.
If it seems too good to be true, it's probably Neptune.
But I've had it give me the fulfillment of what I've asked for.
And I think it's because of where I was coming from.
Neptune is non-materialistic.
Neptune is spiritual.
So when you come from truly letting go, moving into the flow of things without fighting them, you're led, divinely led.
In a mundane chart, not so much.
There are millions of people involved.
Right.
But the 11th house, nonetheless, which is also your hopes and dreams.
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is, Carrie.
As I said, we will have to wait and see.
I don't know how often I'm going to be doing a report on President Trump on my YouTube channel.
It may be weekly.
It will certainly be monthly.
I will have new moons and full moons and There was something I wanted to share before I let it go.
The full moon that we just had fell in Trump's 10th house on his son.
And he's on this thank you tour.
He's just loving being in the limelight.
I think, Kerry, when it actually gets down to the nitty gritty, well, that son Uranus in the 10th house will be there.
That's who he is, of course.
It'll be less about being the showman, and he's got to get down to business.
Okay, fair enough.
Absolutely.
Well, you know, he does have Capricorn, doesn't he?
Somewhere in a very specific house.
It's on his fifth cusp, sweetheart.
I've got to look at my...
Yeah, I'm going to grab this.
Here we go.
I got it here.
It's intercepted in his fifth house, but he is vulnerable.
I'll tell you where his vulnerability lies.
He is very sensitive and he reacts.
He retaliates.
And he can be flattered.
You remember when Putin first said nice things about him and he said, Putin says nice things about me.
Say nice things about him.
I know a great deal of what he did was an act.
He was told what to say.
He was told how to say it.
We understand that now.
And with all that Leo and all that the son in the 10th house, he is very vulnerable to compliments.
And to loyalty.
So...
Right.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, a bit of the mafia boss, sort of that kind of temperament, I think.
All right.
Thank you so much, Maxine.
It's been a joy, as always, to have you on the show, and I'm sure everyone will enjoy watching this and the people who've been watching live as well.
I don't think I see...
I'm afraid we don't have much time for questions, and I don't know if there are any burning questions out there in the chat.
Let me see if there was.
I didn't see questions coming up.
I saw people seem to be chatting, but they're not really asking questions.
They can contact me if they have questions.
All right.
That's fair enough.
Let's give out your main information.
My website is MaxineTaylor.com.
You can go to my website and shoot me an email, and I'll be glad to give you whatever information I can.
We all just have to wait and see what happens.
It's day by day, kids.
Day by day.
As always.
All right.
Well, thank you so much, Maxine, again.
And take care, everyone.
Maxine, I'm going to let you go and then just close everything down over here.
So again, thanks very much.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Okay, so that's Maxine Taylor and she's a very interesting astrologer.
We've done several shows over the years and this one was really to kind of zero in on the controversy around the Electoral College as well as what kind of President Trump may end up being and some of the things going on astrologically right now.
So I hope you enjoyed it and Please do watch my recent release of my interview with William Tompkins.
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So go to myprojectcamelotportal.com or just stay on this YouTube channel and go to the front main part of it.
You'll see it's very recently released in two parts.
And part two has some very important information.
So I would stress, don't just stop after part one.
You've got to see part two.
So, that's what's going on.
We're going to try to get William Tompkins back, for those of you who've already seen it, and we're getting a lot of positive reaction to that interview.
Walter Bosley, an investigator from a former Air Force OSI agent who has written a book about his father's encounter with some ETs or humanoids underground.
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No, today is Friday.
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A stellar researcher, a fascinating book, and a very interesting story.
So stay tuned to Project Camelot.
We'll have more coming up in the very near future.
I am flying to England.
I am going to be interviewing a very important barrister who is quite well known in England.
His name is Michael Shrimpton and we're going to do an in-person interview.
It's all scheduled.
He is releasing a lot of information that came to him over the years and he's been involved in In secret negotiations as a barrister and I guess in other legal capacities as well as in essence getting access to a lot of information that tells the real truth on what went on with the London train bombing and things going on in the
United States.
He has his own take on all of it.
It's fascinating.
He has evidence and he is also revealing what is in essence a German secret service called the DVD that is instrumental apparently behind the scenes in influencing certainly the British government but also the United States and other incidents around the world.
They have been pretty much secret and not emphasized over time.
This is going to be a real expose on that.
And that coincides perfectly, let me say, with the William Tompkins disclosures about the reptilians and Dracos and the influence of Germany on the world scene and their history.
So this is a very, very important line of inquiry to follow.