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June 12, 2015 - Project Camelot
17:08
PROJECT CAMELOT: POSSIBLE EMP IN TEXAS - INTERVIEW WITH DALE LEWIS
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Thank you.
Thank you.
2015?
Yes, ma'am.
And I contacted you because you posted something on Facebook as, I guess, a comment to something someone else posted.
I'm not sure how you did it, but I don't have you listed as one of my Facebook friends, as they call them.
But at the same time, I have a friend, and I can't say the name of my friend, but that friend gave me this information.
A friend of mine sent it to me.
Okay?
Yes, ma'am.
And so I thought it was important enough to post on my website.
I'm a well-known alternative journalist.
All right?
Yes, ma'am.
And so, my question, one question I have for you is, could you describe, we know what you wrote in the post, but could you describe it in your own words again, what happened?
Um, just, basically what happened is, I got the exact same message that you have, and then I got a follow-up message from my friend, and, uh, I can just keep this confidential and not mention his name, but what he told me was he would not post this because he couldn't verify the soldier.
He couldn't prove it.
The man was a soldier.
So he wouldn't even go there to post it.
He only posted it to me as a heads up for myself.
And after thinking on it an entire night, I decided that I needed to release it to the public because I felt it was very important.
And I knew that I would get attacked, and I did.
And finally the attacks have slackened some.
Okay, in what way, when you say you were attacked, you mean...
Yes, ma'am.
How were you attacked?
You know how it is when you post something on...
Social media, you have people saying, well, you have to prove this.
Well, in what I posted, if you'll read the entire post, it even states, it says, look, you know, this is just, in case it does happen, here is prior proof of it.
The friend was, I can tell you this, the friend was very upset in the second message that I received.
The friend is preparing as if it will happen, and he is...
Pretty distraught as well as me and some of my friends here I've shared it with personally.
He feels that the soldiers seem credible.
The soldier actually presented him some papers showing the area of an EMP. He did not show, my friend did not tell me the area.
He just said there were some documentations relating to the EMP. Here again, I can't read words that aren't there.
Whether or not it did show the area or not, I don't know.
What we do know is, he said that the paperwork related to the EMP, and my friend said he couldn't verify the documents.
The man walked him up just out of the blue, and as in the statement that was posted, do you know anything about Jade Helm?
And you know the following conversation.
Okay, and the soldier, he didn't approach you, he approached your friend, is that correct?
No, my friend was the one that actually, my friend actually got approached by this man.
Okay, and is your friend a soldier?
No.
My friend is the person that sent the message to me.
The soldier is the X Factor, is what I call it.
He's the man that approached my friend.
Okay.
And did he have a uniform on?
That he didn't say.
It seems to be, just from what he said in his second post, that no.
Because he said he couldn't verify.
He was a soldier.
He just stated that he was.
So we can imply that no, he was not in uniform.
And he did state that he was going AWOL. And my friend said he looked very, very disturbed.
And the man said he was running and...
And going into hiding, going off the grid.
Okay.
And he wanted to at least tell someone about this in his move to get off the grid.
And then my friend told me.
And he said, you know, I'm not going to post this deal because I know what's going to happen.
People are going to ask me, how can I prove this?
And he didn't want to deal with it.
At the same time, he was greatly distraught over it.
So I did it.
I took the hits for it.
And so be it.
If it doesn't happen, thank God.
I don't want it to happen, but I feel that everyone needed to have a heads up about it.
Okay, and this happened in Austin, Texas.
Is that correct?
That's right.
Yes, ma'am.
Okay.
And I was just wondering, you're not a soldier either.
Is that correct?
No, ma'am.
Never have been.
Okay.
Has Jade Helm shown up?
In other words, are there troops showing up in Austin, Texas at this time?
I've had some other reports from friends I know that do say that yes, they have seen activity down there out of the ordinary.
There's been activity here out of the ordinary leading up to Jade Helm.
I didn't put on social media because it's very close to us.
So if I did that, that would expose friends that saw it in person and that wouldn't be good.
Okay.
But we're talking lots of training exercises just out of view of the public involving lots of equipment This enormous amount of personnel.
Okay.
Can you say, do you happen to know what service was this soldier in?
Do you know which of the, was he Army, Navy, SEALs, Special Forces, any of that stuff?
I don't have the original message in front of me.
But I just assumed he was probably Army, but that's an assumption unless it's stated in the original post.
If not, then he was just a serviceman.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm skimming it right now.
I have it right in front of me here.
I'm just looking to see if there was any reference to the exact service that he was part of.
It just says AWOL. Right.
I don't know.
That makes me think Army, but, you know.
Well, since he said soldier...
Yeah.
He said soldiers, so that would be, the only soldiers would be armed.
Okay.
You have airmen, and the Navy have the sailors, whatnot.
But yeah, I would lead to believe that it was probably an Army soldier.
Just implying from what we know.
And like I said, we can also infer that the man was out of uniform because he did say he was going off the grid.
And he produced papers.
That's what really raises an eyebrow is he posted some papers, looked very nervous, and then that was the last of this man.
He disappeared.
Okay.
Why do you think you approach your friend?
Is your friend a very approachable guy, or any particular reason, do you think?
My friend is an approachable guy.
He's pretty outgoing, but on something like this, it really kind of shook him to the core, as you might expect.
If someone was to walk up to me in bright daylight and do that to me, I think I would be pretty rattled myself.
Okay, did you or your friend consider the possibility that this was part of the operation, that they might be trying to do a test to see what kind of panic might set in and that kind of thing, just a test?
It's funny you mention that.
Just today, I was having lunch with my wife and I said, you know...
I wonder if this is just a lead-up to Jade Helm, that it is part of a psy-op to see how we would react.
But even if, I mean, something this big, I couldn't in good conscience sit on it, because I pictured myself...
With that happening, and not saying anything, and I said, I just can't do that.
I'm just going to have to put it out there, and what happens, happens.
Yeah, I understand.
Well, I feel the same way as a journalist.
Since I came across it, it didn't even show up on my Facebook.
It was someone else who sent it to me, like I said.
But once they sent it to me, and once I read it, I thought, well...
In good conscience, if something like that were to happen, and I didn't raise the word about it, I would feel terrible.
So, you know, I would have to put it out there just in case.
But we don't know.
And that was after sleeping on it an entire night and waking up the next day, and I sat and had my morning coffee, and I said, this is it.
I can't do this.
I have to put this out there.
So I'll just keep him out of it completely and he won't have to deal with it.
Right.
Okay, is there anything else you want to put on the record before I turn my recorder off that might help explain anything or any other details about Jade Helm that you want to make people aware of while we've got this recording going?
Yes ma'am, there is.
On the second part of the message that I didn't post, my friend took it serious enough that he is preparing as if it will happen.
And I could sense the urgency in his post to me on the second part of the message that He's just going to assume it's going to.
It shook him up bad.
So he's already making plans.
And keep in mind, we have ISIS camps that have been reported by Judicial Watch just across the border.
At the same time, the Middle East is on fire.
I mean, it just goes on and on and on.
It's not only Jade Helm, it's everything around it.
Possibility of an economic crash.
I mean, we'll start adding all these things together, and then the possible assassination of John Kerry, that came out.
I mean, the attempted.
Yes.
I would say, you know, someone asked me, on a scale of between 0 and 10, 10 being the most likely of this happening, how would I rate it?
I'm like, well, there's only one way I can rate it.
Because it's such a big event we're talking about, to give it anything less than a 10, my conscience couldn't handle it.
So yes, the way my friend reacted, and he's got a good level head on his shoulders.
He's a very smart fellow.
The way my friend reacted, this guy sold the idea to him.
But he did say, you know, I can't prove it, therefore I'm not posting it.
So, I mean, that's the crux of the matter.
It all falls on that soldier, his credibility.
And, you know, I want folks to keep in mind that there are things that, when brought to light, either get delayed or stop altogether.
That's right.
That's right.
So, that was part of my intent, too.
Hopefully, if enough people know about it, it won't happen.
Yep.
I agree with you.
That's a good possibility, and I hope that, in this case, that, you know, us putting this out there It hasn't gotten a lot of notice on my site just yet.
I'm having problems with my website.
I have put it on my Facebook.
That's why I wanted to do this recording with you so that there'll be a person behind the name.
Your name's on it.
So that people will realize that you're a real person, that this isn't just a hoax and all that kind of thing.
Oh, absolutely.
I've been having people contact me out of the blue since this happened, asking me.
And I've had to address these questions without going into the second part.
Right.
And the second part I will not post because if I did, it would show the identity of my friend and I'm not going to do it.
Right.
Okay, that's cool.
So we're going to wrap this part of our conversation up, but we're not going to hang up.
We're just going to close the recorder.
And as far as people getting in touch with you, do you want people to get in touch with you over this, or would you rather they don't?
You know, I do not mind at all.
Folks want to know Go ahead, contact me.
I don't mind one bit.
Okay, so you want to give your email address out?
My Facebook is out there.
It should be easy to find.
The icon, are you there?
I'm here.
Hello?
Yeah.
Okay.
The icon I have is a blue flag with a white star that says Texas around it, in between each little point.
That's my icon on Facebook.
I guess I can give you my email.
That's fine, too.
Are you ready?
Yep.
Okay.
All this is just...
No caps.
It's H-E-T-Z-E-R-1-2-1 at U-W-mail.com.
Okay.
That's fine.
Thank you very much.
And we're going to post this on my website.
I'll send it out over social media as well.
This short interview with you.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
And I want to thank you very much for your taking the time, having the conscience, To put something out even though it's getting, you know, it's very controversial and obviously you're putting yourself on the line.
If you hear anything else that you think the public should know, I hope you'll contact me and let me know.
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