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Sept. 17, 2025 - Owen Shroyer Live
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Marine Sniper Zeb Boykin Breaks Down Charlie Kirk Assassination Cover Up
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owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Ladies and gentlemen, Owen Schroyer here.
We are live with a friend of mine, actually.
Had the pleasure of meeting him in South Carolina some time ago.
A great man, a great American, a great patriot, and a man with vast experience when it comes to sniping.
He was a Marine sniper, ballistics, weapons, all the expertise you need to get a really good breakdown of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Zeb Boykin has been a great source.
And Zeb, I would start it like this.
You know, you did a breakdown, maybe the most complete breakdown that I've seen on your channel, and it went massively viral.
So let's just start it with this.
What was it like kind of compiling all that, putting all that together, getting that viral video and kind of the aftermath of it?
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I was looking.
I was running through Twitter just like everybody else.
I don't think there was much there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Except they can't hear Owen.
unidentified
They can't hear Owen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
All right.
unidentified
Give me one second, Owen, if you don't mind.
Can you mind giving me a test one time?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Mike check one too.
Mike check.
unidentified
By the way, Zeb is running.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
All right.
You're good to go.
unidentified
Zeb is apologize for that.
Yeah, I was rolling through Twitter like everyone else, and it was just, I'm not going to say bad takes, but it's just simply wrong.
And that's just the way it was.
And I noticed what I believe most other people should have noticed that primarily that the exit wound was out of the front, right?
If the exit wound is entry wound is in the front and it looks like a slug, the back wall should be painted.
That's just the way it is.
I hate to be blunt, but I think that's what's necessary, especially with a lot of the bad takes going around.
Like, seriously.
That being said, very much the I try not to hurt anybody's feelings here, but I guess it's just since you bring that up.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Let me address this real quick because, you know, I've been, I've been, I've been doing the controversial media game for quite a long time, Zeb.
So let me try to just do this for you.
Guys, we're having a conversation.
Okay.
We're having a conversation.
I'm not claiming to have all the answers here.
And Zeb isn't either.
And if you go and you watch his video that's gone viral now, you'll see he says, hey, this is what it looks like, but I'm open to other ideas.
Nobody's trying to own.
Nobody's trying to own this information.
Nobody is trying to claim that we have a final conclusion and you're right or you're wrong.
We are all doing this together.
I don't trust my government.
Most people don't trust the government.
We the people, we have a First Amendment right.
The government works for us.
We're having open conversations, open observations, open debates.
This is not to be personal.
This is us all as Americans trying to figure out what happened with the biggest assassination of most of our lives.
I wasn't here for MLK.
I wasn't here for JFK.
This is the biggest political assassination in America in my life.
And I don't think we're getting the full story.
And I found your breakdown to be the best.
So we all need to come together here.
There's no personal attacks.
If you have a different opinion, whatever, I'm open-minded to everything.
We need to be able to have these conversations.
And if it's a disagreement, then that's perfectly healthy too.
So you shouldn't even have to explain that, but I've seen the attacks against you.
I mean, obviously, I can vouch for your character, your background.
But guys, let's not take anything too personally here.
We're all just trying to get the truth.
And that's what needs to be the focus.
So I just felt like, because I've seen the attacks that you've come under, and I'm saying, guys, we're all coming from the right place here.
We just want to know what happened.
unidentified
Yeah, real quick, I don't know if y'all could turn audio up on y'all's in, but that would be fantastic just a little bit.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I just boosted.
Yeah, I just boosted it a little bit.
Hope that helps.
unidentified
All right, it might have helped a little bit.
But yeah, yeah, we are having a conversation.
We're trying to figure things out.
I may be wrong on one or two things.
I may be wrong on a few, but I don't think I'm wrong overall.
And like I said, I'm perfectly willing to accept any type of retort that's coming.
I just try to make it make sense.
First of all, second of all, we can run through, if you want to run through some of what I did a second ago.
That way it's on your stream and we all have it moving forward.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Sure.
I was going to pull up your ex account, but if you want to do that, if you want to go find his X account or his YouTube channel where he did the viral video breakdown, it's a very excellent breakdown.
It's very sober too.
It's very sober.
It's very well-rounded.
And that's why I think it's a very important watch.
And for me, I was already kind of leaning in a lot of the same directions that you were leaning, but then your coverage was able to give me a little more clarity.
And then there's actually something I noticed that I think that you didn't that I'd like to present to you.
But why don't you get into your latest?
unidentified
Yeah, so we jump into the latest.
My chat can't really hear you, which is fine.
I mean, they can turn it.
You can turn it up if they need to, but I guess what I'm going to present is just going to be fine.
Could you possibly give me full screen on your end?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, let me see if I can do that.
There you go.
You're full screen.
unidentified
All right.
It's going to be backwards, but it's fine.
Excuse me.
So what I have is this is one of the high definition angles that somebody sent me.
And you just got this.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
This is a better high-definition angle that you just got.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, this is this, it's, it's too good, to be honest with you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, this is the best.
This is the best, most clear video we're going to get, I think, from this angle.
unidentified
And because of that, we catch everything, right?
So we're trying to run through everything fairly quick and we can have a conversation on the back end.
But so we go frame by frame.
Obviously, Charlie Kerr gets hit.
This is a reaction.
So it's going to take, I don't know, one or two frames to get the temporary cavity and for everything to react.
What I want you to note up here is this little white dot.
And I know we mentioned that same thing that was from a different angle on the shirt of this guy.
It's just a little white dot.
You know, it's nothing.
It's nothing there.
But the problem is the frame before it's right here.
So we're looking at a double frame, a two-frame here coming from this direction.
You say exit out of the front, and I would agree with you.
I would agree that it exits out of the front.
But the problem is we have an angle of exit.
There's a lot of stuff floating around here.
It's floating in a different way.
I don't know really how to explain that, but it just is.
And so what we would expect is, at least from given the first video, that it entered a lot of people are saying enter the base of the neck.
I mean, even if I grant that, I don't.
I think it's a little bit more of an angle.
So it's inner probably lower ear.
I'm going to stick with that right now until somebody can show me differently.
We're going to roll into this.
Like I said, you have this, you have this, and we would expect it to have ricocheted off of here into off of his neck, out of his neck.
And so we're going to roll into this.
So we see possibly something would end up up here.
That's just the direction that it would be going.
And then we have cleanup.
We have cleanup, which is questionably quick.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, I would expand on that.
The cleanup is not just quick.
It's like, quite frankly, illegal.
I talked to a police officer earlier today.
He's never seen a crime scene handled like this.
In fact, if a police officer handled a crime like this, then they would probably be fired.
Is it a problem with my face not being connected?
unidentified
Maybe I'm going to kill it.
Hold on one second.
Give me a half a second.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I want to.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
Testing one, two.
I don't know what's going on.
Audio is absolutely horrible on my end, but it's fine.
They'll get over it.
Where are we at?
You tested with me one time.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, everything.
All the audio.
unidentified
That's it.
That's it.
We fixed it.
Fixed it.
Fixed it.
Appreciate it.
Wow.
Apologies.
Apologies.
All right, chat.
Y'all can settle down now.
This is extremely quick.
And we're going to get into the video.
I know you have the, you've probably seen the tempering video.
We're going to get into that real quick.
And we are going to look at some of that also that everybody missed.
Everybody missed.
Again, we're expecting the bullet to be up here.
We're rolling here.
Okay.
We have cleanup.
The question that I will probably get from this, the problem is everybody, everything everybody sends me, I already thought about it.
I would prefer you send me something that I have it.
That would be great.
Anyway, the entire wall of Windows had this on it.
This is, I don't know why they're ripping this off of the glass.
This image is really the only one that I've seen that has this, the guy in this spot where we would expect the bullet to be.
So, you know, we're looking at bullet recovery possibly.
I would argue yes.
The question is, why are we ripping all of it down?
And I would argue that it probably broke glass.
And I'm not saying it shattered it.
I'm saying it probably broke it.
It sent through.
It's probably not moving fast enough to go entirely through.
It might have cracked it or whatever.
Anyway, that being said, they have to replace the glass.
I would like to see if anybody saw glass replacement.
And the reason they would be ripping this down is because they wouldn't be able to replace the glass.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Why are they dealing with that glass?
What does that glass have to do with anything?
Seems out of the possibility for any shot.
unidentified
Well, you would think so.
You would think so.
But again, it would be that they can't print off fast enough or an exact match of what would need to go here if they replaced the glass.
So they rip all of it.
That's my assumption.
You could maybe argue, hey, you could maybe argue that let me find this image that this image is that they wanted to do this memorial and not have UVU stuff in the background, but okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, I'll tell you what, let me let me know that you're moving forward in your linear timeline, but bear with me because I want to go back to what you covered before for my audience, because I think that this is the most important thing.
And let's just get like the basic stuff here because, again, this is where people are kind of like getting upset if you reach a different conclusion.
Like, was it an entry wound, an exit wound?
Did he have a vest on?
Did he not?
I mean, to me, there's no doubt there is zero bulletproof vest.
I mean, to me, zero chance there's a bulletproof vest.
I think that that's totally proven.
It's proven that it was an earpiece with a wire.
I showed a very video that would have me completely determine that to be a fact earlier today.
You can see the earpiece.
So, so what the conclusion that I've reached is that the bullet comes in, it jolts his earpiece, and I think you've reached the same conclusion.
And then the earpiece wire flings up.
That's when we see the shirt anomaly.
That's when the microphone goes flying off, and then and then the exit wound in the front.
So, I guess I would just ask you this: how confident are you that that is an exit wound and why?
unidentified
Uh, extremely confident that it's an exit wound.
This is the uh, this is what you're talking about here with the earpiece.
So, when I initially saw this, I assumed it was blood, right?
So, if we're shooting from the front, we have an entry wound here, we have blood out the back.
It would, it would probably be a lot more than that, but that's what we have.
But the problem is when it's out here, it comes back, and so that's that's what kind of made me question what's actually going on here.
And then we got to the uh the side.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Um, I had another side angle, yeah, yeah, there's another side angle.
I might be able to find another side angle that it is like complete, it completely shows that it's an earpiece.
unidentified
I don't know if it's the same one you have, but you can, and that being said, I mean, we have uh, like I said, we have this one, but the problem is that if it's an entry wound, anybody can Google this.
Any amateur hunter knows what an entry wound looks like.
I mean, you can Google an entry versus exit wound and say, oh, okay, that's quite literally obviously that it's anybody saying it's entry is dumb, right?
So, if you have a slug-sized entry, what does the exit look like, right?
I mean, if the entry wound looks like a slug, Charlie shouldn't have a head anymore.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Hey, let me let me show this video.
I don't know if you've seen this angle yet.
It's a, it's uh, to me, this is the most determinative angle that it is indeed an earpiece.
If, if you look at this, this is uh, this is right before impact.
Now, just so, just so people get the full explainer here, and you explain this in your video.
He has an earpiece in, the wire wraps around his ear, it goes around the back of his neck to this side.
The wire then goes here, wraps around the front, and this is where he clips the mic to his wire.
That's a common stabilization thing that people will do in media, and then the wire goes down here to whatever the source feed is.
So, what you're going to see in this spot here, I don't know if you've seen this yet.
To me, it's the most conclusive of the earpiece.
All right, so here's the first, here's the first, the moment of impact.
You can see the earpiece comes out, right?
Here's here's the earpiece that comes out.
I think it was an entry right here that forced and jolted the earpiece.
So, now it's out.
So, you have your first moment where the wire is jilted.
Okay, second frame.
Now, the earpiece is farther out of his ear, and the wire is lifting up the shirt more.
And it looks like even the microphone that's been clipped has actually come off of the shirt.
But this is the same wire.
Um, and that, and then obviously, the earpiece is out of frame now.
Uh, then you see the wound hole here, and it looks like the wire has basically snapped back into a resting position after this point.
unidentified
Yeah, so excuse me.
Um, let me go full again real quick with final cup.
All right, so yeah, so I want to show you something else too, really fast on that same exact video.
You can see the earlobe move right here.
It's his hair, but his earlobe also creases in.
And this kind of a lot of people are saying here, I guess, because you're getting a shadow from the shirt.
I don't think so.
I think it's from the ear.
You can see it from the other angle too.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, I also think that that could possibly just be from the earpiece, just the force of the earpiece.
But you have another angle.
You have another angle.
And if you go back to the original video, when you were breaking down and you got into the lines and how maybe things don't really add up with the muzzle flash and the distance, but you were saying you're open-minded.
You're not, you don't know, but you're saying you're pointing all this out.
There's an angle where to me, and you didn't, you didn't say this in your stream.
And I don't know if you didn't see it or it didn't convince you of anything, but there's a moment in camera angle.
Pull that.
Yeah, pull that diagram back up.
I think it's camera.
I think it's camera.
I think it's camera four.
There's actually a moment in one of those frames where it looks like to me, you can actually see the moment of impact and you can see the concave happening.
You can see that first wave of entry and it's just like just in his hairline.
So you wouldn't be able to necessarily see it because it's in his hairline, but you can actually kind of see the concave in that moment.
I think that that might be the video, right, that you have on the screen, but it does appear like you can see the moment where something impacts the back of his neck.
unidentified
Yeah, you definitely can.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You see what I'm saying?
unidentified
The shirt pulls up.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah.
You see what I'm saying right there?
If you really focus on that hairline, it looks like there is something hitting there.
unidentified
Possibly.
That's so hard to.
The footage is just bad.
It's just bad footage.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
And you explained because it's being compressed over and over and screenshotted and re-downloaded.
And unless you have the original source footage, it's hard to get high quality.
Plus, a lot of people were streaming it live.
So that's not good quality.
But even from this angle, Zeb, don't you think that you would see an exit wound?
unidentified
Yes.
I mean, like I said, if it is an entry wound on the front, then it should just blow out the back.
I mean, nothing makes an entry wound that large.
And they say, I mean, the problem is they're assuming the entry wound is because of a recoach off of body armor, but I think I've easily proven that there is no body.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
There is no body armor.
Look, I don't see where anybody has any proof of body armor.
You can see him walking around before the event.
You can see his chest.
You can see his nipples.
You can see his shirt moving.
It's a light shirt.
unidentified
I mean, there's high quality footage before he starts that basically proves that there's no body armor, even beyond me explaining that the shock wave you see from the body armor is not that.
It is his wire.
So that's where I'm at.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You're claiming 30-odd 6.
What are your thoughts on that?
unidentified
I think it would do more damage.
It would just do more damage.
It would sound that the audio doesn't sound like 30 alt 6.
It sounds, I mean, you could maybe get away with like a 308.762.
I think it sounds like a 556.
I mean, I've shot plenty of both, but the problem is it's on cell phone footage.
And so the audio is give or take.
I just don't know.
Another issue is you're sitting in a bowl of concrete.
And I'm not saying it would change up the report and the sound of the shot itself and timing, but I don't see the audio.
If somebody wants to take all of the camera angles, see, I tried this and I just don't, I don't have the audio software to do it.
Right.
I do video.
That's that's what I'm doing now.
It just, I just happen to be in this middle of the Venn diagram of video ballistics and politics.
So here we are.
But if anybody has an audio, I mean, there's, there's eight, nine, ten videos where you can triangulate exactly, I mean, exactly where it was if anybody wants to actually do it and quit running with a single audio video saying 143.
At some point, you have to recognize that you got to do a little bit more work.
You can't keep blocking people that are trying to actually get answers.
Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
And I don't know why people just won't come together.
Even if you disagree on conclusions, it's like we should all be kind of cross-referencing our conclusions with each other's in my mind.
unidentified
You would think so.
You would think so, Owen.
there's a gatekeeping going on if you will and like I said in my stream is no it's his feed is my feed they're asking you to put you on your stream I can split screen it again if you want to go back that's fine, that's fine, y'all got a full sorry, that's my apologies
but yeah like I said the problem is I don't see anything coming from the gun tubers like nothing, like you have some of the truthers that are sending some stuff out you have You have some on the very, very fringe edge of it.
I mean, like I said, add me to the group chat.
I don't know what's going on.
Add me to the group chat.
I mean, I'm obviously being off radar.
Everybody's kind of not touching this whatsoever.
This is a problem across the board.
I mean, no, no shade towards Brandon Herrera.
I like him.
I like his work.
But quite frankly, you are the gun guy, right?
You do the recreation.
So the question is, what are we waiting on?
And I think the obvious answer is somebody got a call.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You know, I would think it's more innocent.
I think people are.
unidentified
I would hope so.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
My opinion on that is I think people are afraid to go against the narrative because it's the Trump administration.
unidentified
Can I caveat that?
We did a stream.
Me and Josh have done a stream specifically on Brandon Herrera and his fight with AIPAC, if you will, and the funding of that and how he lost his, I believe it was congressional seat by like 400 votes where they spent something north of $4 million against him.
I have no animosity towards Brandon Herrera.
I think that he means well.
I think he's an honest guy.
The question is, you have a duty.
You put yourself in this position.
You are that guy to answer this exact question that everybody is asking.
If I had the equipment to do it, I would, but I just don't.
And so I can't.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
And I think, too, you know, again, like I said, to me, this is a community effort.
And I'm not going to hear these voices that tell me to shut up.
I'm not going to hear these voices that tell me to trust the government.
I don't.
I don't trust the government.
And I think that, you know, if the government wants to earn my trust back with this story, then perhaps they can do that in the future.
But to me, the biggest smoking gun, no pun intended, but the biggest smoking gun is the footage that they're withholding from us.
That camera right behind Charlie, I counted at least three HD cameras that were filming.
So not live streaming, but filming 4K.
So, I mean, you're going to see everything in 4K.
Master frame rate, like you can actually see it all go down in 4K in live time.
And we have not seen any of that footage.
But specifically, the camera right behind Charlie, that would be the one that tells the whole story.
I mean, that would be the one that would be the most conclusive.
And yet we don't get any of that footage.
And guess what?
When they raided the crime scene immediately after, that was the first thing they took down.
unidentified
The very first thing they took was the SD card out of that camera.
Or something to that effect.
I mean, I have that footage right here.
I showed it a second ago.
The question is, what is Homeboy doing?
I don't think the camera is.
I don't think it's rigged.
I just don't.
Again, I think the shot came in from Charlie's right side, exit out the bottom left of his neck.
I mean, the more I sit on it, the higher I think the shooter probably was.
And a lot of these guys that are doing the audio breakdowns are saying they're at like 140 to 200 yards.
And I would, if, if that is a muzzle flash in the window, I would affirm that given the frame rate at 30 frames, that it would put it in about the same ballpark.
And I'm not even, I'm not sure that that's the muzzle flash, but it is consistent and it simply makes sense.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Have you been able, let me, because I had a hard time trying to determine the muzzle flash.
Is that, were you able to determine, did that come from an open air or was that behind a window?
unidentified
I couldn't tell.
It's just an anomaly in that in that one single frame.
I tried to look for it throughout the rest of the video and it just wasn't there.
There's too many coincidences.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
It times perfectly with the shot.
I mean, there's no denying that it times perfectly with the shot.
You could say that that doesn't conclude anything, but yet that's a pretty significant timing.
unidentified
A lot of people were asking me if you want to pull up here.
Let me pull this up.
If a lot of people were asking me basically where I thought it was, if you can go full screen for me real quick.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yep.
unidentified
I think this shot can be made a little bit further back in between this gap, but it would have to be like pre, you would have to be there before the crowd got there.
If that is the muzzle flash.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
And take that shot.
Somebody on those stairs.
Unless it was like a fully silenced weapon, somebody on those stairs would have known.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know if you know Frank Turk.
Frank Turk is the guy in the white hat right here.
He put out a statement immediately after, basically, because people were accusing him of doing signs.
Do you know who Frank Turk is, I would assume, loosely?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I don't really, I don't really, I'm not really into those theories about the signs or.
unidentified
Well, Frank Turk is a, he's a Christian apologist, does amazing work.
Please go check out his stuff.
It's cross-examined.org.
But he does amazing work.
And they're accusing him of doing a sign.
He's on FaceTime right now.
And so they don't have that recording, which Apple may.
And then this guy was being accused of signs.
I'm just no.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Of all the things to look at, I'm probably the least curious about those.
unidentified
Right.
And so I get it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Hey, look, I understand.
Everything is weird, right?
Like, I understand it's all weird.
It's all suspicious.
We're looking at all the angles.
But to me, that's on my, that's way lower down my scale, my scope than some of the things that we're discussing.
And I even think that the one police officer that was to Charlie Kirk's front left that does the this motion, I even think that that's debunked because the timing is a little off.
Again, really weird, really suspicious.
I understand people looking at it.
But if you actually go frame by frame, Kirk, the impact hits Kirk before the guy squeezes his hand when he's pulling up his shirt.
And by the way, that's a police officer.
That's a police officer who jumped the fence and ran to Charlie's aid immediately after that.
unidentified
I would also like to mention in this instance is that this isn't a shot you take, right?
This is a non, like you don't hip fire an assassination on number two MAGA.
You know what I mean?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I think that that's debunked.
unidentified
This is this is so deluded.
There's no recoil.
I mean, if the guy did do it, one, there would be recoil and two, there would be enough recoil to cause that entry wound, the slug-sized entry wound.
And it's just not.
It's just, it's just not.
Like, I don't know how else to explain that to you.
But yeah, I don't think, I don't think it's him.
A lot of people are pointing at this guy right here with the hands.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
That is another weird one.
That is another weird one.
We don't have any answers on that.
That is another weird one, though.
unidentified
Another, I mean, I would also say again, I mean, you don't hip fire something like this one.
And two, I don't, there's not enough recoil there to do the damage that they, that, that is being done.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I would say I'm not willing to say that one is debunked.
I wouldn't say that one is debunked from my perspective.
I'm, you know, that one's still curious to me, but I, again, I'm looking at more of the, to me, I'm convinced that that is an exit wound and we're not getting the truth about the bullet or even maybe where the shot came from is kind of kind of kind of where I'm at.
unidentified
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
I mean, I guess just to touch on the guy in the white shirt again, like I said, one, it's a hip fire and two, he's shaking and then he fires.
It's like you don't risk that shot not hitting.
Like not like that.
Like if you're going to, and a lot of people want to say, oh, they were flying around a drone and they shot him from a drone.
It's like these, these types of, I'm not in the industry, never been associated with Blackwater, but these types of assassinations are conventional assassinations.
You don't take risk that you don't need.
And so what you do is you set up prior to everything, you have everything lined up, your shot lined up, everything else, and then you wait.
It's essentially running security, running counter security for the event.
And then you take your shot and then it's over.
If you're high, if you're good enough, you can hide long enough and then escape that way and no need to even try to run away.
But there were reports of that behind that building behind the stairwell is under construction, but I can't confirm any of that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I will say I noticed that that side where the muzzle flash was, there had been something done there.
It looked like they added some drain pipes or some other stuff.
Because when I was trying to compare videos and images to try to exact pinpoint locate where that muzzle flash is, it became extremely difficult to do because they did do something there.
It looks like they added some electrical piping or some drainage piping or something.
And so it kind of changes to try to figure out where it came from.
So it's hard to really determine where it came from as is it a reflection in a window or was it open air?
unidentified
I mean, I think it was a reflection in the window and it possibly could have been a multi-reflection.
The problem is with reflection is it's an IQ test.
People don't understand reflection.
I don't know if you remember the viral videos that were going around of people putting a paper towel or a piece of paper and then putting an object on the other end and not understanding how mirrors work.
Now, reflection is an IQ test and anybody that doesn't understand it just needs to kind of sit it out.
But the reflection is, yeah, I think it would be outside of the window that it was reflected on.
Again, I'm not sold on the muzzle flash, but.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
So let me ask you this then.
I'm about to jump on redacted news.
You're still live on your streams.
You're going to stay live here for people that want to continue to watch your coverage.
Here's where I'm at.
Here's the conclusions that I'm willing to reach right now.
And then maybe you can fire back if you disagree or if you want to fire back with conclusions that you've reached.
No body armor.
The police officer to the front left was not involved.
The wound that we see is an exit wound, not an entry wound.
And then this is the one that I think is the most, you know, this is the one that's the biggest elephant in the room.
You could argue the rest of it's debatable, but this one is not.
We're not getting the full story from the government.
That's just the truth.
We are just, we are not getting the full story.
Key elements of the narrative that they're painting are not being presented to us.
They could shut the whole thing down by delivering the HD video.
And maybe they will.
Maybe.
unidentified
Well, they can't now.
They can't do it.
Were they going to admit that they did a cover-up?
It would never happen.
Yeah.
I don't even think the shot was ever fired from the building.
I don't think a shot was ever fired from there.
Because Frank Turk, the guy I pointed out on video, said it sounded like it was right close to me in his video.
He did like an hour and 30-minute video.
He said it sounded close.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Which would back up that the entry wound was on the back of Charlie Kirk's head and that the wound we see there in that gruesome footage was the exit wound.
Now, I'm not, and just to be clear with everybody here, and I don't know if you're going to take this further with your live stream as I'm about to go join redacted news.
I'm not even ready to go forward with where this goes next, which was obviously, okay, well, there was a guy on the roof and maybe he was up there with a gun and maybe he did intend to take a shot.
Did somebody know that?
Did somebody have that prior information and decide that they were going to take the shot first to make sure the job got done and then have him as a Patsy?
So, okay, that's me kind of teasing it.
I'm not even, I'm not even, I'm not going there yet.
I'm not ready to go there yet.
I'm just looking at the things that I can look at and trying to reach the conclusions that I can reach.
And to me, these are the conclusions that we can reach.
I think you've done a great job explaining why you've reached the conclusions that you've reached.
But I think, you know, we're in this predicament now where even if even if the government was being honest, nobody's going to trust them, Zeb.
Nobody's going to trust.
Nobody trusts the government anymore.
And why would we?
unidentified
Well, didn't we get all of the Epsom files that we were promised?
Didn't we get the 9-11 file?
Didn't we get everything that we were promised?
Oh, yeah.
And the blank folders, the photo op.
I mean, what are we doing?
I mean, the Trump administration has been an absolute failure across the board.
I mean, we wanted a wall in 2015.
Do we, do we have a wall?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
It's been a decade.
We do have a wall.
There's a wall between us and the truth.
unidentified
Yeah, and they are gatekeeping it.
I mean, give me the keys.
The boomers are holding the keys to everything.
They're holding the keys to the truth.
They're holding the keys to the elites.
They're holding the keys to the country.
They're holding the keys to the future.
Give me the keys before we crash the car.
I mean, we got a bus full of people over here, full of Americans that want to save this country.
And we can't.
We can't save the country unless you relinquish the power that you are stealing from us, quite frankly.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Very well said.
Zeb Boykin, former Marine sniper.
Well, always a Marine, once a Marine, doing some of the best analysis on this.
Zeb, I'm about to jump over to Redacted News.
Where can people follow you?
unidentified
You can find me on Twitter or X now, Zeb Boykins, E-B-B-O-Y-K-I-N.
Or you can find me on YouTube outside the Overton.
And then from there in the description, you can find anything else you need.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Zeb, let's follow up later when you've done more work on this.
Let's follow up later, okay?
unidentified
I appreciate it, Owen.
Thank you so much.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
God bless.
Godspeed, brother.
Guys, I'm jumping over to Redacted News.
I'll see you over there shortly.
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