Owen Shroyer’s OSL 112 scrutinizes the Trump administration’s handling of the Epstein files, accusing delays of serving foreign interests—especially Israel’s—while Fox News pivots to pro-Trump propaganda. Callers debate corruption, from CIA Director Ratcliffe’s alleged ties to Epstein to Susie Wiles’ perceived incompetence, framing Trump’s silence as either complicity or failure. Shroyer rejects blind loyalty, warning supporters risk losing credibility if Trump abandons "America first" principles amid systemic manipulation and media suppression. [Automatically generated summary]
What, if anything, is the Trump administration and the Department of Justice hiding?
What are you hiding?
If you're not hiding anything, prove that to the American people.
And if you are trying to hide something, as many of Donald Trump's MAGA supporters apparently believe, then the Congress should actually work hard to try to uncover the truth for the American people.
The Democrats are obviously only doing this for political reasons.
All right, let's just be perfectly honest.
They could have demanded these files when Biden was president.
They could have demanded these files in Trump's first term.
So this is all political for the Democrats, but it's a major political victory.
So you can see now Trump's foreign policy, controlled by Netanyahu or influenced by Netanyahu, has cost Republicans big time, and it's given the Democrats ground to stand on.
The Democrats had no ground to stand on.
Now you've given them the anti-war ground to stand on, which they will.
And now you have the Democrats coming out here demanding the Epstein files, pretending like they're the people that are about Epstein transparency and the list and everything.
So this is just total politics.
But let's also say a lot of Democrats are clearing their names right now by demanding the Epstein files.
So, okay, we've got that process going on.
I think if you're demanding the files, then you're probably not in them.
I think it'd be fair to say.
Now, could ultimately the Democrats get these files?
If Bondi is not willing to relinquish them, then I don't know anybody that's going to be able to get them.
Now, you have to consider, again, from Trump's perspective, maybe he wants to wait for the files to come out for some other strategic reason, or maybe he's decided he's going to bury the files at the request of the intelligence agencies, or maybe he thinks they'll do too much damage, whatever it is.
It's either a cover-up or it's an influence issue.
So either somebody's influencing Trump to not do it and tell people to move on, or it's already been done, and they really don't have anything, or he's waiting to get a new attorney general, perhaps, before it happens.
But now the Democrats are making political moves to get the Epstein files out.
Crazy.
Why would you even let the Democrats, why would you give the Democrats this air to breathe?
I just don't understand when you could bury them and suffocate them politically and end them politically.
Instead, now you're giving them air to breathe by supporting Israel and what they're doing in the Gaza Strip that the whole world is disgusted by.
And now you're giving them air to breathe on the Epstein files.
You're going to let them own the Epstein files.
Crazy.
Crazy.
Or maybe Trump's being threatened or his family is being threatened because of the power behind the Epstein files.
But live by the Epstein files, die by the Epstein files.
All right, what else does Barack Obama want to have to say here?
Option one, Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, and the MAGA extremists intentionally lied to the American people for years about the Jeffrey Epstein situation.
That's option one.
Option two is that, in fact, there's reason for the American people to be concerned as it relates to what information has not been released that could be damaging to the Trump administration and the friends and family of the Trump administration and their billionaire corrupt supporters.
And so they're actively engaging in a cover-up.
Option one, they lied for years.
Option two, they're engaging in a cover-up.
At this point, it seems reasonable that can only be one of the two things.
And so it's Congress's responsibility in a bipartisan.
Now, aside from me just telling you this as a media critique, this is why it's significant.
This is the same Fox News that platformed never Trumpers.
This is the same Fox News that called the election for Joe Biden before anybody else.
So what happened?
Why all of a sudden did Fox News decide to become the water carriers for the Trump administration?
They've never done this before.
They got rid of Tucker Carlson because he was critical of the 2020 election results.
So this is not an insignificant development.
Why is Fox News now the pro-Trump propaganda network?
That's never been the case before.
Why now?
Why now?
Same thing you could say with the Epstein files.
Now, I would say, put aside the potential that there's something good coming from the Epstein files, because it's a very small potential.
Maybe you believe that.
I'll open up the phone lines.
If you believe that, you can call in.
I think the most likely odds is that Trump is not covering up for any individual or group of individuals.
I don't think that that's what this is about, or even himself.
Personally, I don't think that that's what this is about.
I think this is about Trump has now gone all in with Israel.
And if it comes out that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent, which it basically is out, then that's an extremely embarrassing moment for Donald Trump.
But he should have known that all along, which is so strange, which is why that doesn't even make sense.
So really, none of it makes any sense.
Like, why would you endorse Lindsey Graham?
That doesn't make any sense.
But you know, it is funny watching people that are now selling out totally, selling out completely.
By the way, guess who's on Fox right now?
Lindsey Graham.
him and sean hannity might start making out so oh we're not getting the epstein files Move on.
Oh, all of a sudden, Fox News is just propaganda for Trump 24-7.
What the hell is going on?
Oh, no new wars.
Never mind.
We'll start a war for Israel in Iran.
Oh, we're going to stop the Ukraine war overnight.
Never mind.
We're going to send more weapons to Ukraine.
What the hell is going on?
None of this is MAGA.
None of this was the Trump platform.
And you know what is the craziest part of it all?
The voices for years that have mostly been screaming into oblivion, the voices for years that have mostly been screaming into an empty room that Israel is behind everything.
Now all of a sudden their voices have a lot more weight, a lot more legitimacy, and a lot larger of an audience.
These things are undeniable.
And I think it's pathetic watching the people that have sold their souls for this that will attack anybody who's critical of Trump or attack anybody who's critical of Israel or attack anybody that just wants to remain consistent on their principles and values and they expect the same thing from Trump or anybody else.
And you have to consider this.
You really have to consider this.
And you could argue that we're still in the first quarter of this presidency.
So I hear that.
But keep in mind at halftime, the House right now is likely to flip for the Democrats.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
The Iran strikes and now the Epstein files.
The Democrats right now are your favorites to take the House.
Absolutely.
And then, you know, everything that comes next, but it's, it's wild to watch people try to make excuses or engage in the excuses or the coverup, however you want to call it.
because it's only making things worse.
And at the end of the day, politics is mostly a numbers game.
It really is.
And you have to be honest because numbers don't lie.
If this trend continues, and by the way, I have no excitement.
Oh, there's new investigations on the Epstein files.
Oh, we're going to get down to the bottom of all the people that have been swatted.
We've got it.
Nope, that didn't happen.
So all these things that they promised that are going to happen, none of them have happened.
So I'm not buying anything is going to happen.
I'm not buying any Epstein stuff is happening.
Oh, whoa, whoa, they see the backlash now and they're going to give you something.
They're not going to give you jack crap.
We're going to go after the Biden crime family.
They didn't do jack crap.
We're going to go after the Autopen scandal.
They're not going to do anything.
So they're really just not doing anything.
So, no, I don't have any faith about, oh, we're going to give you something now.
No, they're not.
No, they're not.
Honestly, if Trump wanted to do true damage control, he would come out and he'd give some sort of a reasoning why we can't get the list, whatever reason, because there's too many powerful people.
It'll be bad for reason X, Y, or Z. You know, we're still trying to sort it all out, whatever.
Or even, you know, even if you wanted to come out and say, well, because this happens all the time, you know, some of these bastards travel to countries where the age of consent is 14.
It's a very well-known thing for rich men, specifically rich gay men.
They like to go to Prague because the age of consent is 14.
You learn some stuff when you're in a federal prison, folks.
You learn some stuff.
So it's very well known that rich men, rich gay men, but rich men specifically like to go to countries.
They'll travel to countries where the age of consent is 14 and they can have sex with 14-year-old sex slaves.
They can have sex with 14-year-old hookers.
And they do.
And then they'll get caught up in something in the U.S. system, and prosecutors will try to bring up the fact that they go to these different parts of the world to go have sex with minors and America, what would-be miners in America, and they have to toss it out.
So they could say, hey, whatever they were doing on Epstein Island, it's not under America's laws.
I don't know.
I'm just saying he could come out and find some way to kind of smooth it over.
And he has to come out, and this is what he has to say.
This has to be the closing statement.
He has to say this.
Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset.
And because he was an intelligence asset for multiple different agencies around the world, we have to handle this thing extremely delicately.
We have to root out a lot of rot and a lot of corruption, and we have to handle it delicately.
But yes, Jeffrey Epstein was indeed an intelligence asset.
Or you talk about Maxwell, and you say, maybe Maxwell is the route we go down now.
Maxwell's father was a Mossad agent, very famous.
Maxwell was bringing in the young girls.
Maxwell knows more than anybody else, probably alive, what was going on, so maybe it's time to bring her in.
But they didn't do any of that.
They just told you to stop talking about it.
The worst possible thing.
But now the Democrats are talking about it.
Now CNN is talking about it.
Now MSNBC is talking about it.
Now the Democrats are demanding the Epstein files be released.
Okay, give it to them.
Now CNN, MSNBC demanding transparency when it comes to Epstein.
His partner, his girlfriend, his pimpette, Gee Lane Maxwell, was the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a known Mossad agent.
Multiple Israeli prime ministers had known relations with Jeffrey Epstein.
There's no evidence.
Why are people such liars?
And these are people on the right.
You're hurting the MAGA movement.
You're destroying the MAGA movement.
You are probably just as guilty of destroying the MAGA movement as Trump is.
At least people can look at President Trump and say, well, he's the president.
You're just a bottom feeder.
You're just a pathetic bottom feeder sellout covering for pedophiles, covering for the deep state.
At least I can look at Trump and say, okay, he's the president.
He's got his own reasoning.
There's nothing I can do.
He's going to be the president for the next four years.
I can be critical, but okay, he's the president.
Anybody on the internet that's saying, no, no evidence of Mossad agent.
Oh, it's all conspiracy theory.
What are you doing?
You're doing more damage to the MAGA movement than Trump is.
You're doing more damage to the MAGA movement than anybody in the Trump administration is.
You're making us all look like idiots.
And it's so embarrassing that nobody wants to be affiliated with you.
You're such an embarrassment.
You're such a despicable fake news media.
That's what you are now.
You're fake news media.
You're such establishment hacks now that nobody wants to be associated with you.
Like at least with Trump, it's like, that's the president.
That's the guy I voted for.
It's still Donald Trump.
Gonna be in the White House.
So it's like, okay, that's what it is.
You're just some bottom feeder nothing on social media that is selling out.
What do you want him?
What is it that you want?
Do you want more money from the Trump packs?
Is that what it is?
Do you want more money for social media posts?
Is that what it is?
You know, your time is running thin because once Trump is gone, you'll have nothing?
Is that what it is?
Why have you done this?
Why have you made yourself such an embarrassment?
Why have you destroyed any credibility that the MAGA movement had?
People want nothing to do with you now.
You're pathetic.
You're shills.
You're worse than Trump.
People will still associate with Trump, even if he goes sideways and does things that we don't like.
People will still associate with Trump.
He's still Donald Trump.
He's still the president.
You're just a bottom feeder MAGA tard.
And nobody wants associated with MAGA now because of you.
Because of you.
And how many people now, after this whole debacle, how many people now can say, I didn't cover for pedophiles or I didn't promote foreign countries' agendas.
How many people can say that now?
Not too many.
Not too many voices in the media can say they didn't sell out for a foreign country's interests and they didn't sell out to protect the Epstein client list.
Not too many people can say that.
Not too many, folks.
And it all just happened in a month.
And we knew it.
We saw things going sideways during the Iran strikes.
We saw them going even more sideways with the Big Beautiful Bill negotiations.
And now, don't talk about Epstein.
Now we're off the tracks.
Now we're just totally off the tracks.
Now, I don't want to think the worst.
I guess the worst would be that they've compromised Trump.
I don't want to think that's the case.
I really don't think that's the case.
But we have to be realistic.
We have to consider all possibilities here.
Just like we could consider that maybe this is, maybe this is some other bigger plan and we're waiting to see the final phase.
I'm not saying I believe that.
I'm looking at all different potentials.
I think this thing has just gone sideways.
I think the voices that are influencing Trump are not the real MAGA voices.
I think the people that are getting access to Trump are not real MAGA either.
I don't think they're America first.
I think foreign interests and I think special interests have taken over this administration, just like almost every administration, if not every administration of my life.
And just ask Barack Obama voters in 2008 that then voted for Trump in 2016.
And like I said before, this is all numbers, folks.
This is all numbers.
If this continues, Trump will be as unpopular as Barack Obama.
He will be the right-wing Barack Obama.
People voted Barack Obama in for reasons, and then he gave them something else entirely.
So they voted for Donald Trump.
People voted Donald Trump in for reasons, and now he's giving us something else entirely.
It's all a numbers game.
So the left is going to continue to hate Donald Trump.
But guess what?
Now you start to see a similar sentiment rising on the right.
You can't be denying this, are you?
And if you are, you're just not living in reality.
And I think a lot of this is denial.
I think we're seeing a denial phase from a lot of people out there.
And that's why there's so much coping going on.
And that's why there's so much attacking of the people that can be independent and still have principles.
It's a jealousy thing.
They're jealous that you could still have principles when they've sold out.
They're jealous that you can still exist and be relevant without being like a dog for Donald Trump, begging at the water bowl, begging at the feeding bowl.
So they're jealous, but they're still also in denial.
But right now, Trump is going the way of Barack Obama fast, and you hate to see it.
And I think it's the MAGA tard sycophants that are giving him the fuel to do it.
If we were all saying, hey, stop selling out to Israel, stop funding Ukraine more, stop burying the Epstein client list, then he wouldn't do it.
But because he can go and see the MAGA sycophants saying, oh, yes, Trump, whatever you do, it's great.
Oh, bury the Epstein list.
Oh, perfect.
He wasn't a Mossad asset.
Yes, Donald Trump.
Oh, yes.
Go strike Iran.
Oh, yes.
Let Israel just bomb the hell out of Gaza.
Now they're going to move him into France.
Now they're going to move him into Syria, just like every other war in the Middle East on Israel's behalf.
We're going to relocate all the Muslims into Western countries.
We're going to relocate all the Muslims into European and American countries.
But Israel gets what it wants.
And then Europe and the West get flooded with immigrants that hate them and collapse their society.
So it's really just unfortunate that this stuff got off the rails so fast.
But it has.
Now, the good news is, the good news is it's going to actually expose a lot of deep state stuff.
So we're not going to drain the swamp, but we're going to expose the swamp and what it's up to.
Israel has never been less popular in a modern American history.
So Israel controlling our foreign policy and everything else that they do to stop America from thriving, that's going to come to an end.
The issue with foreign aid, all the money we send all over the world, now more to Ukraine for foreign aid, that's going to become a major political issue.
So now in 2016 and 2028, more importantly, these will be the top issues.
These will be the top issues.
Stopping all foreign aid, keeping our money here, and stopping the White House from putting foreign interests and foreign countries ahead of our own country's interest.
That will be the top issue in 2028.
So might not get any of that from Trump like we had hoped, but now it will become a permanent issue in American politics.
Totally undeniable.
Now, the question becomes: How desperate is Israel?
And I think we all see it.
We all see how desperate it is.
And I think that's why you're seeing the major shift at Fox News.
I think that's why you're seeing Netanyahu in Washington, D.C. so often.
I think that's why you're seeing all the Israeli assets and propaganda going on to cable news and to social media, the likes of which you've never seen before.
They've gone way too far in the Gaza Strip.
They've gone way too far in their propaganda in the West.
And so they can never go back.
But because Israel is so desperate now, it also makes it now the most dangerous time.
They will do anything, folks.
Israel will do anything to protect its own land.
I mean, if we're being honest, you actually have to admire it.
I wish American Christians cared about America as Israeli Jews care about Israel.
The average American Jew cares more about Israel than the average American cares about America.
So that's our problem.
That's us.
We did that.
That we're to blame for that.
If we had any sense of urgency or sense of nationalism or pride or sense of survival that the Israelis have, then we wouldn't be in this problem.
So yeah, we can complain about Israel's influence and APAC and everything else.
It's totally legitimate.
But then at the same time, you have to admire and you have to say, boy, oh boy, if we had the pride and the sense of survival that the Israelis have, we wouldn't be in this problem.
And Israel wouldn't be having its influence over our foreign and domestic policy as it does if we acted as Israelis do or as American Jews do in loyalty to Israel.
on a second by the way the whole reason and i posted this video on my x account i'm not going to go to it now I'm just going to go to the phone calls now, but you can find it on my X account.
The whole reason the Israeli prime minister came out and stated the obvious lie, the obvious gaslighting, was because people realized that Epstein was either a Mossad agent himself or unwittingly working for Mossad, or Maxwell was the Mossad agent, and Epstein was just like her pimp or something.
Or maybe Epstein was just handling all the money, but he also, you know, he was into the young girls and he was into that stuff.
So he was like, hey, I'll handle the money.
You handle the sex slaves.
But the only reason why the prime minister came out and said, oh, there is no connection to Epstein and Mossad when there clearly is.
Anybody telling you there's not is just being completely dishonest or is totally brainwashed.
He did that.
It's a digital cover-up, folks.
Because if you used to search Epstein Mossad, you'd see stories like the headline from the Daily Wire or the Daily Mail.
Yeah, the Daily Wire.
Yeah, right.
You'd see headlines from the Daily Mail saying Epstein was a Mossad agent.
Epstein claimed to be a Mossad agent.
But now, because the former prime minister came out and said, oh, Epstein never worked for Mossad.
Now, when you put it into a search engine, that's all you see.
Epstein was not Mossad.
So if you searched Epstein Mossad three days ago, all you found was articles about how Epstein was working with Mossad.
If you search Epstein Mossad now, all you see is articles saying Epstein was never Mossad.
I really was excited in 2020 and 2024 for everything to kind of turn out a lot better here.
But honestly, after the assassination that happened, the attempt that happened this past summer, it really did seem like God was trying to protect Trump for something big.
And you look at the prophecies from like these Greek monks who are saying that Israel won't last 80 years.
It seems like this is exactly what Trump's role was supposed to be to embolden this country, honestly, to its own destruction.
Well, I called that out about a month ago, but it's just the truth.
And now other Israelis and other American Jews are saying the same thing.
The number one threat to the future of Israel is Netanyahu.
And that's why it's so disgusting to see him running around Washington, D.C. and watching all these sycophants that are totally bought and paid for by the Israeli lobby.
It's just disgusting to watch them.
They're disgusting, corrupt people.
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Oh, yeah, no, most assuredly.
It's quite apparent with, I mean, gosh, how many times has Netanyahu changed his names and how many different watch lists was he on before he left the United States?
The litany amount of people who are involved with kitty diddling and all this kind of shit is just, excuse me for swearing.
I know this is probably live here, but it's terrifying.
It really, it should shock you.
But not enough people need, not enough people do know.
Not enough people want to know.
They want to go on their own lives.
They want to, you know.
So, I mean, that's all I kind of got to say on this thing.
So I actually wanted to offer a different perspective because, you know, the Net Yahoo says we need to support him because they're God's chosen people.
Well, I'm an Orthodox Christian, and no, they're not God's chosen people.
The Orthodox Church is God's chosen people.
The Christians are the true Israel.
And then, as far as Trump, I really want to trust him, but I'm 28 years old.
I don't want any new wars.
The Epstein stuff's really bad.
So I'm at like a 50-50 right now.
I'll give him a couple more days, but it's looking pretty bad on my end.
Hey, so yeah, this is all, this is all disgusting, to be honest with you.
You know, on your show today, it was interesting.
It was the first time I agree with what you said in terms of, you know, Trump was speaking, and it wasn't even worth turning on.
You know, it wasn't even worth giving it.
You know, you did eventually turn it on, but honestly, I had the exact same sentiment.
I didn't even care what he was saying, you know?
So this whole thing is just disgusting.
So my question to you is: do you believe that Trump is naive enough to believe that if he doesn't prosecute anybody and he doesn't go after any of these people that he knows damn well are guilty of these crimes, that they're going to extend that to his family when he is, you know, gone?
Like the mafia, you know, you know, you know, criminals have a very set code of rule that they live by, right?
So, you know, it may not even be a spoken deal.
I mean, he might be rolling the dice on this, that if he sweeps this stuff under the rug, he does good by them in the eyes of complete criminal scum pieces of shit, Democrats, mostly, but even also on the Republican side, you know, he's overlooking a lot of that stuff on that side, too.
You know, he really actually, I do believe, thinks that this is going to pave the golden road for him and his family to be left alone.
And maybe, too, just to add a little extra, maybe, too, he's like, hey, I'm going to get off your back.
I'm going to try to get the American people off your back.
Now you get off ours, right?
So it's like, it's not just about.
But here's the problem.
Because I see where you're going with this.
And I think it's, you know, in the reality, in the realm of reality.
But the problem is we're not even getting the America first agenda.
So it'd be one thing if he was doing all of this stuff and we got the America first agenda, but we didn't.
We got the Israel first agenda.
We got the Ukraine first agenda.
We got the NATO first agenda.
We've got everything but America first.
And on top of it, we're told to stop talking about Epstein.
So I'd say maybe that would be a potential, except we haven't seen any other factors that would lead me to believe that's what's going on.
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Absolutely.
So I'll tell you what, everybody's always looking for the silver lining.
So how does he pull this back on the rails?
If he goes America first, full tilt, he start, I mean, you know, I mean, they can sweep the Epstein thing under the rug, perhaps, but they better start putting money in our pockets.
They better start playing games.
They better start getting some numbers on the board here.
I mean, that is the only thing.
I'm telling you straight up, I'm not even voting midterms.
I want them to feel it.
They're going to feel it.
Why am I going to go vote in the midterms?
And again, hey, I'm a Trump 2015 guy, you know, wearing a Trump hat, taking shit the whole time for the last 10 years.
Why am I going to go vote again?
You know what I mean?
So it's just like, they're not even giving us anything, Owen.
Well, if he did, if he did make that agreement somehow, some way, he didn't do it so far.
At least the evidence would say he didn't do it to help our country.
He did it to help himself, if that's the case.
Which, hey, you know what?
As a potential, I guess you could say if your family was being threatened, if you or your family was being threatened and you knew that releasing the Epstein files or calling out Mossad for what they've done, that that could potentially bring harm to you or your family, would you do it?
And, you know, we should be just as upset, I don't know, at the fact our, you know, Epstein was probably working with the CIA too, so our own government screws us.
But that's what Drain the Swamp is, man.
In Trump's first inaugural address, I'll never forget it.
He said, I'm going to give the country back to you, the people.
Far from it, Donald.
Far from it.
Now, you've still got about three quarters to go to fulfill that ultimate dream, that ultimate promise to give our country back to Americans, but you've not done it.
Not even close.
And how do people feel?
This pisses me off when they do these victory laps.
Oh, it's the greatest economy ever.
No, it's not.
What are you talking about?
Our economy has not recovered.
Is it going the right way?
Yeah, if anything, I think we'll get a good economy out of this administration.
Other than that, though, we're not getting anything, but we're not even there yet.
Gas prices aren't way down.
Grocery bill prices aren't way down.
Energy prices aren't way down.
Interest rates aren't way down.
The price of living isn't way down.
The tax cuts aren't going to be that big of a deal.
And they're saying greatest economy ever.
Oh, another victory for Trump.
You're just rubbing it in our face.
Now you're just insulting us.
We're already injured.
Now you're just insulting us.
But yeah, the two things I was going to say, and the caller, I said this the other day, like it used to be a month or two ago, Trump goes live.
Everybody wants to know what's going on.
Now Trump goes live.
People just kind of roll their eyes and say, eh.
And by the way, folks, you can go back on my broadcast after October 7th.
And I talked about this for about a week.
And I said, you are now going to see foreign flags flying all over your country.
And you're now going to see the hatred for Jews and the hatred for Muslims in your front yard, in your backyard, and soon it'll be in your kitchen.
And now here we are.
And I'm just sick of it, man.
I just want to live in America.
I want to live in America.
I want to live in a Christian country.
I want to live in a high trust society.
I want Americans to run the American government.
I want Americans to control America's foreign policy.
And I want Americans to come first.
And I want Americans to be the only people on the list of beneficiaries of the U.S. government.
People are already done with MAGA, so they're moving on to America first.
I'm already done with America first.
I want America only.
How about America only?
Oh, you don't want to be an isolationist.
That's literal propaganda from Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin to get us into a war in Afghanistan in Iraq.
Go back and read the stories.
That's what they called people that were against those wars.
The same Israeli lobbyists, Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin, pretending to be Americans, pretending to be flag-waving American patriots.
We got Pete Hegset, Laura Ingram, Mike Huckabee, Maria Bartiromo, Dan Bongino, Mark Levin, Monica Crowley, Tammy Bruce, Sarah Carter, Sean Duffy, Harmie Dylan.
Like, you know how they talk about Baal and Moloch and all like blah, blah, blah.
But there's actually like Kabbalahism, whereas like the foot soldiers, like Freemasons, the foot soldiers basically are the foot soldiers for the cabal.
And these are like the deep hearted root, evil Zionist, fake Jews that basically are running like 95% of our American politicians and so on and so forth.
Like Madonna follows it, possibly Oprah and like all like the big.
like how we're looking at the Jeffrey Epstein list and stuff like that.
And now there's supposedly no list.
I was just, I called the other day and I kind of got shitted on by Chase and I didn't like that.
But it is what it is.
Because he thinks I'm an inbred because my name is Ahmed and I can't have an intellectual debate with him.
But it's sad because that's what the InfoWars platform is used for, is for intellectual debate on both sides of the end.
And then we come and reconciliate and find the actual goal, a common ground and actually solutions between both sides of the aisle.
Because that's what American politics is really about.
But it's unfortunate we can't have that.
That's a different subject.
I was just saying that Kabalicism basically is the root of our old ancient history a little before this is like medieval times, even possibly like first or second century recorded after Jesus Christ after he passed away.
These are like basically the foot soldiers for Lucifer and Baal and Satan and all that stuff.
And these are what, unfortunately, the Freemasons are following and they are listening to these people or whatever they are.
And it's like the six chakras and they follow the Talmud and all this stuff.
And you can't have this debate with people and it's unhealthy.
Whoever's listening and you're part of the cabal, it's unhealthy because the Americans are not stupid.
Civilians are not stupid.
Trump has woken up people.
They're raising the alarms.
Whether or not Trump is a Mason, it doesn't matter.
It's just creating the conversation and having the questions out there so we can find answers because that's what the Masons ultimately made this ground for and this whole country for is to make it a better place for the name of God.
It's all just it's all just I mean, look at Ukraine, a giant money laundering operation, a giant weapons laundering operation, and they're just sending the Ukrainians to the slaughter, folks.
It's disgusting what NATO is doing, what the EU is doing, what America is doing, sending Ukrainians to the slaughter so they can launder money and weapons through the corrupt state of Ukraine.
And then blowing up tens of thousands of people, blowing up an entire nation of people in the Gaza Strip because your soldiers don't want to go in on the ground.
They'd rather climb over the rubble and the carcasses of the dead bodies they just brutally blew up.
I just really quick, for everything from the Epstein list to Ukraine to everything, just look at it through the prism of Occam's razor, which, you know, if you don't know, I'm pretty sure it's you.
And look, there's a part of me that, I mean, I can't help it.
It's just there's a part, it's a part of me, right?
That I want to have hope.
Like, I want to believe we did, we got Trump in and we're going to get what we voted for.
I want to believe we're going to drain the swamp.
I want to believe Trump is the maverick and the rogue and the renegade that we voted for.
I want to believe that.
I do.
I want to believe it.
But there's no evidence, folks.
There's no evidence.
And I see it.
And I saw it for four years.
I saw it for four years in the first Trump administration.
And I saw Sean Hannity go on his show every night and say, TikTok, TikTok, TikTok, indictments are coming.
No indictments came.
So I'm not playing this game anymore.
I'm not playing this game.
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And the thing is, is that this is really a line in the stand because, you know, I'm not trying to hammer on the FC list, but it amounts to, you know, I don't care about the economy.
I don't care if we have the best economy or any of that.
There are children that were hurt or victims and there are predators who preyed upon them.
The thing is, is that this is a line you're just saying, you know, I don't care about any of the promise, the golden age, or any of that.
The fact that our leaders, not just Trump, but everybody just goes at that, you know, hey, you know what?
You have to answer to God.
He said it's better to wrap a millstone around your neck and throw it into the ocean than to hurry the child.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what the ultimate thing is, all these people's hands and people like you and me.
And thank you so much for what you do and bringing awareness to this stuff and giving us a platform to talk because, you know, we're pariahs amongst our own people because a lot of people are like, you just not going blindly with the plane.
And anybody that went down that rabbit hole with us, including a couple big names that were in mainstream media at the time, they're not anymore because they covered it.
We had them, folks.
We had them even more than we realize.
And they shut us up, and they shut it down.
But it's just like, how are we going to act like Barack Obama didn't order $65,000 worth of hot dogs?
How are we going to act like Marina Abramovich wasn't the talk of the Democrat Party with her spirit cookings?
How are we going to act like we didn't see pizza-related maps?
How are we going to act like we didn't see the symbology everywhere we looked that led us right to the target?
How are we going to act like they didn't have in their emails they were going to put little kids in the hot tub for your entertainment?
How are we going to pretend we didn't see the Podesta art?
But I can't do it.
It's too heavy.
But you start bringing up the kids and I just, man.
We had them, man.
But, you know, the real challenge is, you know, from my experience in life, I can have a very distasteful, even, debate with somebody.
I can get very heated and in an argument over politics with somebody, but you know what?
When we put the politics down, we find we have more in common than we do different.
And it's why I always hated politics growing up because I found it to be filled with hate and division, and I'm not that kind of a guy.
I love life, and I love bringing people together and everybody having a good time.
How do you, how do you, because the government is the problem.
I don't care what country you're in.
The government is the problem.
The only government in the world that might not be the problem is El Salvador.
That might literally be it.
Maybe Argentina, but they're still dealing with crap, too.
But it's like, yeah, I'll have political debates.
We'll get really heated.
And then I can put it down and I can clink my glass and I can talk about anything else and we'll be just fine.
What do we, the people of planet Earth, do about these corrupt, unnecessary governments?
Because that's what it is.
It's unnecessary.
And that's what the American Revolution proved.
That's what the shot heard around the world was all about.
That's what the Declaration of Independence was all about.
You don't need a government.
You don't.
And you don't want one either.
And 99% of the governments on this planet are completely corrupt and work against you.
But then they use it to divide us.
They use government.
They use religion.
They use class.
They use race.
And they use all of these things to divide us so that we can never come together and throw this cancerous government, this evil, satanic, wicked beast that we call government off our back.
And I don't care what part of the planet you're on.
I don't care what country you're from.
Your government is your problem.
That's the ultimate challenge.
And yeah, most governments are now centralized.
Most governments are now under the same influence as everybody else, whatever that is.
Most leaders are probably compromised in some way, shape, or form.
And most people want nothing to do with their government.
But I guess that's American Revolution 2.0 worldwide.
You know, looking back at that cabinet meeting where Pam Bondi wanted to answer the question about whether Epstein was part of the intelligence community, sitting at the same table was CIA Director John Ratcliffe.
No, and actually, did you see the clip where Trump announced the new military aid for Ukraine, and you can see Pete Hegzeth's soul leaves his body, and it looks like Ratcliffe has an orgasm?
And I noticed a lot of other people started talking about her too.
So people got a problem with Susie Wiles.
I'm going to leave it at that for now.
I don't want to overstep my boundaries and I'd like things to be handled internally.
But if the people protecting Susie Wiles don't stop and call her out to remain consistent with everything else they do, then I will take it to the next level.
If I haven't been stuck in this same damn seat for five years, then I might put some faith into that, but I have no reason to believe any of that other than just hope.
You know, as this Epstein debacle unfolds, I just thought back to when Trump hosted that Sound of Freedom screening at Mar-a-Lago, which kind of gave everyone the impression he was serious business about this.
So that seems like it was a sham And just very disappointing that he doesn't take the child trafficking as serious as he claimed.
So I just kind of thought about that.
And just one other thing.
It's like, I'm sure you've seen Braveheart before, but there's this one scene where they're gathered in a meeting and the nobles are like, no, we're not going to go fight the king.
And William Wallace is like, you know, if you're a Scotsman, then I'm ashamed to call myself one.
So if we're Americans tolerating, you know, sex abuse of children, then I'm ashamed to call myself an American.
It was the Phantom, I believe it was Phantom F-12.
So send me automatic.
And it was the American flag.
But, brother, I just want to say I so appreciate you.
And I know you don't want to hear that, but you are a man of integrity and character, and you're doing everything in your ability to stand up against evil.
And we can't ask more from you than that.
So thank you.
I think honestly, the spirit of 1776, the nature that exists within us to simply say no to evil.
I do think it's time for most of us to consider peacefully resisting non-compliance, whatever we want to call it, but in a way to where we actually remove ourselves from the system and we just no longer participate.
You know, we could have had the opportunity and they took it from us and Trump didn't do anything about it.
We could have done it.
When they cut the taxes on tips and overtime, that could have been our path to freedom because every American could have just worked for tips and that's it.
Every American could have worked for tips and we would have never paid the federal government another dime, another dime.
But you know what?
They capped it.
They said if you make more than 25,000, then you still get taxed on tips.
So they didn't even give us no tax on tips.
So they lied about that too.
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Of course they did.
And I exaggerate you not as someone who functions in this capacity as a consultant.
I literally asked for all my payments to be marked as tips in the anticipation that maybe Trump would deliver.
But here's what I'm realizing.
And it happened in the fourth year of Trump's first term.
How many times did we hear this damn story about the snake?
You know, this poem about the snake.
And it just hit me harder and harder and harder every time I'd have to listen to that story.
I can hear it's like a struggle to even talk about it.
So I hear it in your voice.
But I mean, you know what's even crazier?
You want to know what's even, what's even more difficult to say, but it's undeniably, observably true.
He had a snake's tongue on him the day he was shot in Butler.
Literally, the blood made a snake tongue on him.
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Dude, I just, you know, I never bought into the QAnon stuff.
I always, you know, I've been listening to Alex for forever.
You know, I'm 38 years old.
I've been listening to him as long as I can recall.
Been listening to you every day as long as I can recall.
And I genuinely like, I know you guys' spirit is in the right place to try to move things forward because of righteousness, because of the right things.
And then you just have to sit here and observe.
You know, it's in business, there's a principle.
We always say, you know, trust only motion, never only trust talk.
And I do my best to live a principled life and to consider things, you know, the principles, the things you can't argue with, the things that if you're trying to argue with them, you feel like you're a retard because you know they're undefeated.
Okay.
Principles are undefeated.
And every time I look at Trump, I have to ask myself: is he a part of the evil or is he simply the most incompetent man we have ever witnessed to hold this office?
And I just know we have this satanic cabal sucking on our necks.
And we have a demon that's climbed and lurched itself on our backs.
And I just want to free us.
So whether it's because I'm some sort of like moral person or because I'm just selfish and I want to be free of this demon like everybody else, it's just to me, there's no other way.
There's just no other way to me.
And, you know, to the people, I don't know, there's the Q people and then there's the trust Trump with everything people.
It's like, oh, oh, you're going to regret it.
You're going to regret not supporting Trump 100% all the time.
Oh, you're going to come running back to Trump.
Like, what does that even mean?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I have principles that I will stick to.
I have an audience of people that I have to maintain.
I have to remain consistent in my logic.
I have to remain consistent in my principles.
And again, it's not even like an effort thing.
It's just, I don't, I don't get people that don't live like this.
This is just natural for me.
It's like, yeah, I want to be, it's like, sure, I do want to be the best person I can possibly be because I want you to be able to look at me and say, okay, this guy cares about his health.
He cares about his mind.
He cares about his audience.
He cares about his legacy.
He cares about his country.
Yeah, I'd like to be a standard for that, but I'm not trying to win some moral Olympics here.
To me, it's just, I don't know who wouldn't want to live like that.
So it's like, yeah, some fat slob wants to attack me about health.
Yeah, I'm going to say, look at you.
You're a fat slob.
Shut up.
Why would people listen to you?
Some bloated, propagandized, political ignoramus wants to attack me or debate me.
I'm like, okay, go ahead.
Show who you really are compared to me.
So if I fill some role as like a role model or something, then that's just not what I'm trying to do.
But you get into these people.
Oh, you're going to regret not supporting Trump.
Okay, well, let me just explain.
Let me explain things from a pragmatic point right now of somebody that says, I'm going to support Trump no matter what, and somebody like me that's been critical lately.
You have lost all credibility.
You're a loser now.
You will forever be a loser.
And you might.
Maybe you'll get a hat signed by Trump mailed to you.
Maybe you might keep getting paid.
You might keep getting your social media money after Trump is out of the White House, but you might not.
And then you're going to be there empty-handed, empty-minded, and soulless.
Not me.
And then I think, well, what if Trump does turn out to let's just go all the way?
Let's say Trump is Q or Trump turns out to get everything back and does everything we want, everything's great.
Well, I still win because I maintained my integrity and Trump saves the country.