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owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, Owen Schroyer Live, episode 113.
		It's been a minute.
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		DHS caught putting a loyalty to Israel pledge in the disaster relief aid program.
		And then they tried to deny it.
		But we have the documents.
		So what is this really all about?
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		Owen Schroyer Live, episode 113.
		DHS caught forcing disaster relief recipients to pledge loyalty to Israel.
		And then they tried to act like it didn't happen, even though we have the documents.
		That's odd.
		So we'll be addressing this.
		And it's a pattern of behavior from this Trump administration that really breaks our heart.
		It's a pattern of behavior from this administration that has cost them a lot of trust, some of which will never come back.
		I think we have to be honest about that.
		Some of which will never be back.
		And now it feels like politics as usual.
		It doesn't feel like the Trump of 2015 and 16 and then the people and the battles we were fighting then.
		It feels like the swamp has taken over.
		It feels like politics as usual.
		It feels like they try to appease us with a bunch of red meat, but very little delivery.
		And that's because we wanted something different.
		We didn't want just a right-wing administration.
		We didn't want just a Republican administration.
		We wanted an administration that was going to change the world, like, I mean, drastically.
		And I could sit here and give the Trump administration and President Trump credit where it's due.
		The world has been changed in a good way, I think, mostly.
		Globalism is on its deathbed.
		Right now, the liberal left in America is spiraling, but they're about to make a soft landing on the ground that has been given them by this administration on war, on Israel, and probably a couple other issues.
		We'll wait and see what happens, but definitely those two right now, even the Epstein list, you could say, but perhaps there's still time on the clock for these things.
		But, you know, these laws are not new.
		And I remember this was a story in Texas, and these laws exist, I believe, in 22 states, and they say anti-discrimination laws, but then they, unlike anything else, they directly state that you have to pledge loyalty.
		You have to be loyal to Israel.
		You can't boycott Israel or any Israel product or Israel organization or entity, or you can't get disaster relief aid.
		And this happened in Texas after Hurricane Harvey.
		And you just kind of shake your head and say, well, why?
		That doesn't exist for any other state.
		That doesn't exist for any other country.
		You can boycott America.
		You can boycott American companies.
		You can boycott other states' companies.
		Still get the foreign aid, but not Israel.
		Well, why is that?
		Because, of course, we know Israel doesn't control our government.
		Israel doesn't have any influence at all.
		So why would that be in there?
		So it's just more proof of the total control that Israel has over certain sectors of our government, certain sectors of this administration, foreign policy being the most obvious.
		But, you know, you have to sit here and wonder where this is all going and why this is all happening now.
		And I see some potentials.
		You know, arrogance is always a human trait.
		And so could this just be Israeli arrogance, which in many ways has translated to American Jewish arrogance with people like Randy Fine.
		And they're just rubbing it in your face.
		They're just rubbing it in your face that America's fallen, America's weak.
		Israel can dictate your foreign policy.
		Israel can dictate domestic movements and culture.
	Is it just an arrogance thing?
	Like, yeah, we did it, haha.
	And I got some clips that would lead to that conclusion of other American Jews basically saying that, being like, oh, well, if you don't like the fact that we run everything, then get over it.
	Make your own thing.
	Of course, what happens?
	You try to make your own thing.
	You're told you can't do that.
	You get debanked.
	You get defunded.
	You get attacked.
	You get censored.
	So you have that.
	Could it be some weird defense mechanism where there's like this paranoia that's going on where they do constantly feel a victimhood or they do constantly feel threatened or attacked?
	So they kind of have to bow up.
	They kind of have to do a confidence game because they see that Israel is becoming less popular worldwide.
	Specifically, they see that Israel is less popular in America than ever in a modern American history.
	Maybe ever in American history, the anti-Israel rhetoric.
	And, you know, this does translate.
	I don't like to make it about Jews.
	And that's a common thing for people to do is to just make it about Jews.
	And I don't think that I can separate a Jewish individual from Israel.
	And it's not that I do that to pander or placate.
	I think that that's right because there's plenty of left-wing Jews that are not fan of Israel, that are not fans of Israel.
	There's plenty of Jews, Israeli Jews, that are protesting Benjamin Netanyahu every day, protesting him in the streets.
	And there's American Jews that don't talk about Israel at all, don't feel any loyalty to Israel.
	But there's no doubt there's a phenomenon there.
	If you do go with the Jewish angle, which I don't, I separate Israel from Jews.
	I separate Israelis from American Jews.
	But if you do go with that angle, there's no doubt that there is a loyalty issue.
	And I have this discussion with some of the American Jews that I'm friends with that I like to debate politics with.
	And we'll have added on this.
	And it's, yeah, I have no loyalties to Israel.
	Why would I?
	But if you're an American Jew and you're an Israeli citizen or you're constantly traveling to Israel or you're taught that that's your holy land, of course, of course you feel a loyalty to Israel.
	And you can deny it.
	You can deny it publicly.
	You can deny it privately.
	You can deny it internally.
	But yeah, I could understand that.
	Maybe this is a trivial, superficial example, but it's like I'm from St. Louis, Missouri.
	Now, I can go to a Texas Rangers game, but I'm still wearing my St. Louis Cardinals hat.
	I can go to a Round Rock Express baseball game here right down the street.
	I'm still wearing my St. Louis Cardinals shirt.
	So somebody can go and be like, what are you doing here?
	This is Round Rock Express.
	It's like, what are you wearing a Cardinal shirt?
	Well, I'm from St. Louis.
	I like the Cardinals.
	This is a Texas Rangers game.
	We're Rangers fans here.
	I'm like, no, I'm from St. Louis.
	I'm a Cardinals fan.
	So it's always going to be there.
	That loyalty is always going to be there.
	And it's not even inherently bad.
	It's not a bad thing, but it's become a big political issue.
	And the vast majority of Americans don't have a loyalty to Israel.
	They don't.
	Now, many older generations have been taught a loyalty to Israel.
	Many Christians kind of buy into the Zionist propaganda or belief system.
	And I don't even want to get into the religious angle because I have a different interpretation of the New Testament and the new covenant and Jesus.
	I do take it offensively, though, I will say, I do take it offensively where they say, but, you know, you worship a Jew.
	Jesus was a Jew and Mary was a Jew.
	And this whole thing is like, no, you're still in our cult.
	It's like, no, you're still in our religious sect, which then leads credence to the people that claim even Christianity is a Jewish psyop.
	But I look at the New Testament differently.
	I look at the new covenant differently, where at that time in that specific region of the world where Jews were trying to leverage political power and argue that they were the chosen people, Jesus came in and said, no, you are not the chosen people.
	You are not the church.
	The chosen people is anybody who gives their life to God.
	The chosen people are all of God's people.
	And the new church is the followers of the new covenant.
	So to me, that Jesus, from my religious perspective, my interpretation is Jesus ended Jewish supremacy.
	And then in his final act, in Jesus Christ's final act of defiance and final act of proof, he gave his life.
	He let them kill him.
	He said, this is what you will do.
	Do you want to know who really runs things?
	It's not the Romans.
	It's not Pontius Pilate.
	It's not you.
	Do you want to know who really runs things?
	Watch.
	I will stand up to political power and I will be killed for it.
	But it was really religious power.
	It's really Jewish power.
	Now, this is all Old Testament stuff, but I'm just saying for the sake of this debate, this is my interpretation of the New Testament.
	So I take it personally when people say, oh, you're a Christian, so you're actually under Jewish control, or you're a Christian, so you actually worship Jews and Jesus was a Jew and so you should worship all Jews.
	So that I do take a little personally.
	The politics stuff, not so much.
	But when you get into that religious angle, then all of a sudden you have to wonder where this idea of, oh, Judeo-Christianity, or somehow Jews and Christians, they're the allies.
	They're the natural allies and not Christians and Muslims who actually have virtually the same religious document.
	That's why I find it so strange when these people talk about the Quran.
	They've clearly never read the Quran.
	The Quran is like the New Testament.
	It's almost virtually the same.
	In many, it's chapter and verse, the exact same as the New Testament.
	But see, I don't like to go down that angle because what I see happening, and I don't like it, I don't like it.
	But what I see happening is, yeah, now you can get to the angle of anti-Semitism.
	Now you can get into the angle of Jew hate, which is happening, and that's why I separate Israel from Jews because there is a difference.
	Now, you can talk about Israeli loyalty or loyalty to Israel, and that's a separate issue, which American Jews exhibit, and so do American Christians.
	Doesn't mean I hate them, but that's a realistic thing that you can observe and report on.
	No, what I see happening now is American Jews are basically being forced into this corner, and many have already made up their minds that they're just going to go all out for Israel.
	Now, it really shouldn't even be, it really shouldn't even be an option.
	It really shouldn't even be an issue.
	But because of Israel's influence and because of people like Randy Fine and others who want you to know that Israel is more important, who want you to know that their loyalty and their priority will always be Israel first, now they've created this paradox where they don't want a Jewish person to be separated from Israel.
	So it's like those are the most evil people when it comes to this.
	They are trying to drag all Jews into this like a human shield and force you to attack all Jews when not all Jews think the same way.
	Jews are diverse just like every other group on earth.
	It's like, oh my gosh, look, Trump won with Hispanics.
	Hispanics are very diverse.
	Oh my gosh, Trump's winning the black vote.
	Black people think differently.
	White people, everybody.
	Chinese people, everybody has a very diverse group of thought.
	Just because of your skin color doesn't determine how you think and how you feel.
	Now, that's what they would like you to do, but it's not working.
	But what people like Randy Fine are doing is they're forcing every single Jew into this category because they want that as like a buffer.
	So they don't want you to identify actual Israeli loyalists or actual Israeli operatives or even point out somebody like Netanyahu specifically, who's done more damage to Jews on planet Earth than any other person I've ever seen.
	And that's the truth of it.
	It's not Nick Fuentes causing anti-Semitism.
	It's not Tucker Carlson causing anti-Semitism.
	It's Mark Levin.
	It's Benjamin Netanyahu.
	That's what it is.
	But they're forcing every Jew to make this decision.
	It's like, oh, no, you're either going to be on Team Israel or look, everyone's going to hate you.
	And it's not fair to do that.
	So I'm not going to do that.
	Now, I do understand the loyalty issue, and that's a separate conversation, but I'm not going to sit here and let people like Randy Fine drag every Jewish American as like a buffer.
	No, you're the son of a bitch, Randy.
	No, you're the disgusting demon Netanyahu.
	No, you're the foreign agent Mark Levin.
	You're not going to sit here and act like all Jews think the same and then sit here like every single Jew is part of some monolith and the evil that you represent doesn't represent them, but you want to make it all about all the Jews so that you can cry anti-Semitism and then you can put stuff into DHS disaster relief bills like, hey, you're either loyal to Israel or you don't get disaster relief aid.
	And then what does that do?
	That causes hatred for all Jews because they think all Jews think like Levin or Fine or Netanyahu and they can't separate.
	They can't find the space between and then they just become anti-Semites.
	And then when that happens, then they have the grounds to pass all the legislation and force you to commit loyalty to Israel.
	So that's what's happening.
	And it's totally undeniable.
	But to get back to the Trump administration, and I've got this up on the screen here.
	So earlier today, and folks, this is ridiculous from the Department of Homeland Security.
	And look, Christy Noam is an Israeli loyalist.
	I don't think she's Jewish.
	She's just another politician bought and paid for by Israel.
	That's all it is.
	Most of our politicians are bought and paid for by Israel.
	Most of our politicians have been bought and paid for by a bunch of different lobbying groups, bought and paid for by Big Pharma, bought and paid for by the military-industrial complex.
	So, I mean, there's plenty of, there's plenty of umbrella lobbying groups that own our government, own our politicians.
	Israel happens to be one of them, and it happens to be the hottest topic right now because it's the most obvious.
	It's the most in your face.
	And people are so sick of what's going on in the Gaza Strip.
	I mean, literally sickened by it, that it's now such a disgusting issue that it becomes the top issue.
	So they come out with this, and they say, oh, so we have the documents.
	States that boycott Israeli companies will lose disaster relief fund, DHS says.
	So Homeland Security under Noam comes out and says there is no FEMA requirement tied to Israel in any current NOFO.
	No states have lost funding and no new conditions have been imposed.
	FEMA grants remain governed by existing law and policy and not political litmus tests.
	DHS will enforce all anti-discriminatory laws and policies, including as it relates to the BDS movement, which I believe it's 23 or 22 states have these laws in their states on their states' books, folks, including Texas, where you can't get disaster relief aid in Texas unless you're loyal to Israel.
	So now they just took it nationwide with Homeland Security.
	But so they say it didn't exist, except we literally have it right here.
	I mean, you can see the quartering is sharing it.
	Luke Radkowski is sharing it.
	I mean, everybody has it, folks.
	Everybody has this.
	Even Steve Bannon shared this and said Israel first.
	So, I mean, here's the actual document right here that they say doesn't exist.
	Discriminatory, prohibited boycott means refusal to deal, cutting commercial relations or otherwise limiting commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies or companies doing business in or with Israel or authorized by, licensed by, or organized under the laws of Israel to do business.
	There is not another single country mentioned in this, not even an American.
	You can boycott an American company, no problem.
	You can boycott an American state, no problem.
	So this was in there.
	And this was new as of this administration, which is the most pro-Israel administration in the history of the country.
	So they put this in there January 29th, 2025.
	And then they're saying, oh, it doesn't exist as if you can't read, as if you're a retard, as if you're an illiterate retard that can't read the document that says it.
	They say, oh, no, it doesn't exist, but we're getting rid of it.
	So even though it doesn't exist, they're getting rid of this part of the DHS disaster relief fund package.
	They're getting rid of this literature.
	They're getting rid of this text, even though it doesn't exist.
	And there is no Israeli influence over your government.
	So this is the big lie.
	And we're now used to this administration lying to us.
	Trump says he didn't even know Epstein.
	It's like, dude, why are you lying?
	I don't know of any other person that's in more videos and photos with Epstein, except maybe Maxwell, than you.
	I don't regret voting for you.
	I don't think you did anything illegal.
	Doesn't bother me one bit.
	But then you say you didn't know the guy.
	So whatever.
	So now there's dozens of states that have these same laws for disaster relief, including Texas and Florida.
	And they had to, there was such backlash from this today.
	And maybe this administration still thinks that we live in the stone age of political news and commentary where basically four networks can control the narrative and control what you see and hear.
	No, that ain't the case anymore.
	That ain't the case anymore.
	And I've been dealing with this Israel debate so much.
	Like I am tired of it.
	So it's not even that I won't engage in the debate.
	I still will.
	It's just like the debate is already over.
	I've already had the debate a hundred times.
	There's no point in having it again.
	And it goes like this.
	Anybody that's had this debate knows exactly how it goes.
	It's basically a three, it's basically a three-part process.
	You say Israel has too much influence over our politics.
	No, they don't.
	You say, well, okay, explain why they get the most foreign aid and explain our foreign policy there.
	They say, they don't get the most foreign aid.
	Look at all these other countries that get the foreign aid.
	Look at all these other FARA registers.
	Well, Israel doesn't have to register FARA.
	And the last president that tried to make them register under Farah got his head blown off.
	So Well, the other countries, though, okay, fine.
	Well, do other countries have our politicians going there and kissing the wall nearly every single one?
	Does any other country have their flags all over our Congress every single day?
	Just Israel, right?
	And then the conclusion of the argument, which is what they believe the whole time, which is, well, yeah, but that's because Israel is the best.
	And so there it is.
	So I'm done having the debate.
	I'm done being treated like a retard.
	I'm done being lied to.
	If that's what you think, then just say it.
	Don't make us go through all these extra steps.
	It's like all these extra steps for communism that we have here.
	It's like, don't make me go through all these extra steps because you think Israel is the best country on earth.
	Good for you.
	Go ahead and move there if you really believe that.
	So that's all it is.
	You have true America first patriots that don't have any loyalty to Israel, that aren't interested in any loyalty to Israel.
	They're not buying the Zionist propaganda.
	Even when you try to say, yeah, but what about Jerusalem?
	What about Jerusalem?
	It's not going to work.
	America is our holy land.
	America is our holy land promised by God, manifest destiny.
	We need to save America.
	But now notice what has happened because this is what happens in life, politics and anything else.
	The more you consume something, the more you become it.
	It's like you are what you eat.
	So now we have to build a golden dome.
	So what is the biggest debate?
	The biggest debate now is Israel and Palestine.
	And oh, I got Laura Loomer saying the Muslim Brotherhood has the most influence in our Congress.
	I mean, Laura, you are just, you're laughable with this stuff.
	I can't believe Laura Loomer, who's built up this reputation of a feisty American patriot who has now gone, she calls herself a feisty Jewess and has gone full Israel first.
	And maybe that's just because she thinks that's how she gets access to the Trump administration.
	And that's what's happened.
	Notice how they all blackballed her, and then she became Israel first and protecting and promoting Israel every day.
	Now she gets access.
	Now she's back in.
	She won't go after Susie Wiles because that's probably her source of being in, even though everybody else is sick of Susie, Netanyahu's campaign manager.
	I don't even think Laura's been to Israel.
	I don't know.
	So I don't even think it's a loyalty thing.
	I think it's just she wants access and this is so she knows go Israel first.
	That's how you get access.
	And she's right.
	She's smart.
	She figured it out.
	She said, gee, I do all this great work on the streets.
	I do all this investigative journalism.
	Hell, some of my journalism might have helped kept Trump out of jail.
	I've exposed all these corrupt judges.
	I mean, I go into the weeds for this administration, but I get blacklisted.
	They kick me off Air Force One.
	They try to gatekeep me.
	What am I doing wrong?
	Oh, I should go Israel first.
	I should pledge support for Israel.
	I should go against the Muslim Brotherhood.
	I should do whatever Israel will want me to do as if I'm an agent of Israel.
	And then I'll get back in.
	And then bing, she gets back in.
	So she's just smart.
	She just figured out which way the wind blows.
	So somebody like me who's been through hell, who will never sell out for a foreign country, I'll never get the access.
	And I'm okay with that.
	I really don't want it, to be honest.
	It's like the ring of Mordor or something.
	So I'm not interested anyway.
	But you are what you eat.
	So now that we've just been, or you are what eats you, it's really either way.
	You are what eats you.
	You are what you eat.
	It can go either way.
	So now that we've eaten up Israel to this degree or Israel has eaten up us to this degree, guess what?
	Now we need a golden dome.
	So now, what's engulfing the American political discourse?
	What is becoming the top debate conversation in American political discourse?
	Like today, somebody brings up the popularity of Nick Fuentes.
	And I say, there's no doubt Nick is a great broadcaster.
	As somebody that recognizes broadcast talent, Nick is a great broadcaster, and he's very well spoken on the issues.
	But the truth is, there's a lot of people that are well spoken on these issues.
	Now, to get attention and popular, you have to be a great broadcaster.
	But this isn't to slight Nick.
	I'll be complimentary of Nick, but what is really, what has really been the rate?
	What has really been the rise of Nick Fuentes?
	Why has Nick Fuentes come of age?
	Because the things that he's been talking about now for almost 10 years, it's all now the top topic.
	So He's like the go-to guy.
	So they labeled him the Israel guy.
	They labeled him the anti-Semite guy.
	They labeled him the Jew guy.
	But now that it's, oh, it's all Israel all day long and Jews all day long, it's like, oh, that's Nick Fuenez.
	He's the guy.
	He's that guy.
	So it's like, that's where people are going for it now.
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owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		It's like anybody who wants to grift, and Nick has been doing it, so I'm not calling him a grifter.
		Let's be clear.
		But anybody who wants to grift, this is the grift now.
		You either go full pro-Israel and you grift off that, or you go full anti-Israel and you grift off that.
		Or you could do pro-Palestine angle, whatever.
		But it's like, that's the grift.
		So the Trump grift phenomenon is over.
		So now the people that have decided they're going to grift off of Trump, that's permanent now.
		They can't get out.
		They're done.
		And that's why they're so pissed at people like me, who are truly organic, truly independent, true American patriots, true freedom fighters.
		The Trump grifters hate me because I expose them.
		But that grift is done.
		So the people that are going to grift off Trump, they've got four more years.
		They're going to milk it for all it's worth, and that'll be over.
		Now the big thing is Israel-Palestine.
		And you got all the grifters going on with that.
		And there's a lot of money in that, by the way.
		A lot of money, probably coming from both sides.
		But way easier to access on the pro-Israel side.
		Way easier to access.
		Way easier to get in and access that.
		So somebody's like, man, you know, Nick Fuenez is really popular.
		Well, he's now considered the expert on the biggest political issue in American political discourse at this point.
		Aside from being a talented broadcaster and great geopolitical analysis, I'll give him credit where it's due.
		And I like Nick.
		I've met him many times.
		Always a great discussion.
		Always a happy guy from my experience.
		And by the way, I'll just say this.
		The attack by Tucker Carlson, I think, is K-Fob, as they say.
		I predict within five years, Tucker Carlson will retract that statement and talk about how smart Nick is.
		Now, that's probably a long-term, but I think with Tucker, it's going to be like 9-11.
		It's going to be like the war in the Middle East where he comes out on the wrong side of it, whether he actually believes it or not, I don't know, or he's playing a long game because Tucker's not dumb.
		And Tucker's well connected.
		But Tucker sees what everybody else sees.
		So I'd say within five years, Tucker will come out and say, oh, no, I had Nick Fuenez wrong.
		He's actually very smart.
		He's very talented.
		I think he's doing this now to get more attention to Nick and drive more people to Nick and in Nick's defense.
		And then he'll come back and say, oh, yeah, I had it wrong.
		So that's what he did with the Middle East wars.
		That's what he did with 9-11.
		So Tucker's known for doing that.
		And it really doesn't cost him anything.
		So I'd say that's a pretty safe prediction.
		But getting back to the point, you are what you eat or you are what eats you.
		So now that the whole Jew versus Muslim and Israel versus the rest of the Middle East, now that this has eaten us or we've eaten it, now we've become the Middle East.
		You notice this?
		Now we have become the Middle East.
		And so now we do with, now we have to deal with Jewish propaganda all day long.

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