Owen Shroyer dissects Trump DOJ’s abrupt closure of the Jeffrey Epstein case, calling it a betrayal of "America First" promises after allies like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel pivoted. Callers accuse the administration of Mossad blackmail, organ trafficking cover-ups, and prioritizing $14B in foreign aid to Israel/Ukraine over domestic crises—mass shootings, infrastructure collapse, and even weather manipulation via cloud seeding. Epstein’s suspicious death and missing Jewish victims fuel distrust, with Jefferson from Virginia exposing inconsistencies among Trump’s supporters. Shroyer warns younger conservatives must reclaim politics before institutional rot erases their movement entirely. [Automatically generated summary]
Trump Department of Justice says Epstein file is closed.
Nothing to see here.
And there's a bunch of other stuff surrounding this now that we're going to be commenting on.
But I really just want to take calls tonight and get your response to all of this.
I didn't have time to take calls on the InfoWars war room today with a loaded news desk.
So I figured I'd come on here and take calls tonight and just get everybody's response to that.
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Now, as we get the audience caught up here on Rumble and on X, before I open the phone lines, there's a lot of things that we just kind of sit here and wonder what the hell is going on.
And I think it makes it even harder because we didn't really deal with this in the first Trump administration.
And that is Trump pro-Trump propaganda.
And so now we're kind of wading through all of this.
And you have the pro-Trump propaganda that's beyond just the White House.
They've got all their message carriers and standard bearers, water bearers, and I'm being kind here that carry water and do pro-Trump propaganda on X to try to keep the sheep in line and keep everybody supporting everything he does, which is a cult.
That's what it is.
It's a cult.
So you now have a Trump cult.
And I understand why it happens at a personal level.
People want to make money.
They're getting paid to do it.
They want the X payouts.
They've created an entire brand, an entire personality off Trump off of MAGA.
And if so, that goes sideways or if that goes wrong or if that loses popularity, they don't know what they're going to do.
And so it kind of makes it a little confusing to see people on your same team, but then attacking you for having a disagreement or attacking you for not liking a policy.
And in this case, with the Epstein files, there's really no defense, which makes it even more difficult.
At least with the Iran strikes, you can sit there and understand there's an appetite.
People hate Muslims, okay, so they want to just bomb Muslims.
People like the military, so they like a military success story going over there with the bombers and doing this incredible mission.
They don't like Iran.
There's the historical issues with Iran blowing up their nuclear facilities.
So despite my foreign policy issues and anti-war stance, I understand there's an appetite for that.
And you can have a geopolitical debate and discussion about the potentials and everything that happens.
But now the bombs have stopped dropping and you say, okay, it's good.
Well, they've stopped dropping one way.
Israel's still bombing at least three countries as of the ceasefire.
But that's just Israel.
And so covering up the Epstein case and the Epstein files, there is no appetite for that.
There is no excuse for that.
And then to see the administration doubling and tripling down and now Dan Bongino doubling and tripling down, it's extremely confusing because these are our guys.
These are the guys that are on our team.
These are the guys that we're rooting for.
And releasing the Epstein files was a campaign promise from not just Trump, but from Patel and Bongino as well.
And you could say, well, they didn't know they were going to be a part of the administration.
Okay, that's fine.
But they are now and they all talked about it.
And here we are.
And now they just say case closed, nothing to see here.
How the hell does that happen?
How the hell does that happen?
It doesn't make any sense.
So we're all just caught here reeling like, what the hell just happened?
Doesn't make any sense.
And all of this as Netanyahu is coming into the United States of America to meet with Trump.
And so, of course, Israel's going to get more funding.
It turns out now we're continuing to fund Israel every day for their missile defense systems.
Now we're funding Israel even more money so that they can build more military bases.
It's insane.
And obviously, Epstein was a Mossad agent.
He also probably worked for the CIA.
Who knows how many intelligence agencies he was working with?
He was an asset for, but he was working with Mossad.
It was a handoff from Maxwell, Elaine Maxwell's father.
It was a handoff.
And maybe it's been handed off again.
But now it's just, oh, case closed, nothing to see here.
So Pam Bondi talking about all the tapes and all the footage and all the clients.
Oh, forget about that.
Dan Bongino saying, never drop this, never give it up.
Oh, forget about that.
Cash Patel talking about how corrupt it is and how we're going to shut down the FBI and everything.
Oh, forget about that.
So I just, you know, I think we're all a bit reeling here, and we don't know what to do overall with the administration.
We don't know how to respond to it with all the different stuff that's going on with this administration now.
And they're attempting the mass deportations, which is obviously a tough thing, but they're at least attempting it.
But then they tell you, after they can give hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, hundreds of billions of dollars to Israel, no resistance, no questions asked, no oversight.
But then they tell you they're going to hold you, the American people, hostage and say, if you want mass deportations, which you voted for, you have to pass this big beautiful bill.
So we can't get basic law enforcement.
We can't get invasion response unless we pass the big beautiful bill.
And, you know, I'll hold out too much judgment on that and say, we'll see.
But it looks like that thing's going to be a flop, too.
I'm sorry to say.
It just looks like it's going to be a flop.
It looks like a big brother, big tech, big spending bill.
And even the tax cuts now have caps and different little weird tweaks to them that really will see if they even deliver tax cuts, folks.
So we're just sitting here reeling after being held hostage for the big beautiful bill when foreign countries and foreign conflicts can get aid without any resistance or oversight, but we can't even get basic law enforcement.
And now, right before Netanyahu comes to town, we're told, oh, Epstein file is closed, nothing to see here.
So ignoring Israel's involvement in our politics is impossible at this point.
Anybody denying it is being intellectually dishonest or has blinders on at this point.
It's the big elephant in the room.
And so now we're just sitting here.
We don't know what to think about this administration.
The cultists don't know what to think about this administration.
The people that have supported Trump since day one and been through hell like myself, we don't know what to think about this administration.
Now, I have no problem being critical of an administration and still cheering for it and supporting it.
But at a certain point in time, you wonder: okay, is this really the administration that we elected?
Is this really the administration that we thought we were getting or has something else happened here?
And I think that's the deeper question that we're asking.
Aside from the Epstein situation, aside from the Iran strikes, aside from the big beautiful bill, aside from the Elon Musk fallout and everything else, I think we're really doing some soul searching here.
And we're just wondering what is it now?
What are we really getting with this administration?
How do we properly respond to it?
How do we try to navigate through it?
Or how do we try to get it back on track?
Or is it totally lost?
Is it totally gone?
I think we're all kind of soul searching and struggling with this now.
And I get it.
I get it from all angles.
Like I said, I get it from somebody like me who's been there since day one, been through hell.
I get it from the other Americans who I believe are good people and good patriots, but they've created a whole Trump MAGA brand.
They can't abandon it.
They need it.
It's literally their personality now.
So they can't turn on Trump.
So they have to support him no matter what.
So we're all just kind of sitting here soul searching, wondering what the hell is going on.
And then we have to ask, What are we even getting?
What has this administration delivered for the American people?
And you say, okay, tax cuts.
Well, have we really seen the tax cuts yet?
You say, oh, well, the economy is getting better.
Okay, it's getting better, and I think it will get better.
But even there, you're still at a will-see moment.
But I think, yeah, I think we'll do good on the economy.
Mass deportations, that's basic law enforcement.
I shouldn't be celebrating basic law enforcement.
I didn't want to get involved in the Middle East.
Now I'm back involved in the Middle East.
I wanted to get rid of all the foreign aid and foreign entanglements, and now we're continuing it.
Shutting down the USAID, that might be the best thing that we've gotten.
I think shutting down USAID is probably the best thing we've gotten.
RFK Jr. has done some good things with Maha, but that comes down to a freedom of choice thing.
We need to shut down the welfare state entirely.
There's no deep state arrests.
So at this point, what are we doing?
What are we dealing with here?
Is it time to turn up the pressure on the administration?
Is it time to just kind of back off and let them deal with the backlash that they're getting?
I think we're all kind of just soul searching and wondering, what is it that we really have?
What is this administration really going to be doing for us?
And I don't even know if it's worth talking about on this stream, but, you know, I got attacked.
I was called fake MAGA and the panic and all this other stuff.
And now all of those people are pissed off about the Epstein list.
And I'm just sitting here saying, you know, this has been the direction that it's been going.
You are insulting us for calling it out and trying to stop it.
And now we're here.
And the biggest attack was, because I used to break down how the MAGA coalition was being split.
Well, now it's worse than ever.
Now it's worse than ever.
Musk is going to start a third party.
People already abandoned over Israel.
Now people are going to be abandoning over the Epstein list.
It's cooked.
It's totally cooked.
And you just report on this neutrally.
You just report the facts and then you get attacked.
And that doesn't turn anybody on either.
That turns people off.
So that's where we're at here.
And now you've got to wonder what the political future really looks like.
And I got to say, there's just weird stuff going on.
Caroline Levitt usually wears a cross, a crucifix when she does her press conference.
She didn't have it today.
Maybe that's insignificant.
We've had relative silence from the FBI and the DOJ.
Bongino made a post saying they're stronger than ever or something like that.
Imagine Netanyahu comes to the White House and he delivers Trump a letter.
This just happened.
And he delivers Trump a letter and he says, Israel and I, Netanyahu, we have nominated you for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Excuse me, Benjamin Netanyahu is like the most wanted war criminal in the world right now.
And Israel is killing more people than any other country in the world right now.
So Donald Trump just got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by the most warmongering country in the world and by the top war criminal in the world.
What is that?
Right after they spike the Jeffrey Epstein client list and say nothing to see here.
right after they strike Iran for the Israelis.
It's not good.
It's not a good direction and it's going the wrong direction spiraling fast.
Fast.
Of course, we just saw Maureen Comey spike the Diddy case as well.
He didn't blackmail anybody.
He wasn't recording anybody.
He just hired some hookers.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
Maxwell and Epstein were trafficking a bunch of young girls and underage sex slaves to nobody, to nobody.
Epstein kills himself in jail.
Jean-Luc Brunel kills himself in jail.
Multiple Epstein victims that were speaking out in the public, they die, killed themselves too.
Yeah.
So what's going on?
Is the Trump administration being blackmailed?
Is the Trump administration being death-threated?
these are the questions.
And for all these disenfranchised Republicans that complain every time Republicans win and then nothing gets done, Elon Musk is now your biggest voice and your biggest representation.
There's a total separation between Trump and his base now.
It's like alien.
We've never really felt like this before.
it feels like something entirely different.
So now you just think about the political future.
And you understand where Elon Musk is coming from.
He's now seen behind the curtains.
He's now seen how the sausage is made.
He knows it's disgusting.
He was expecting things to be changed.
Nothing happens.
He gets boosted out in contempt and he says, okay, fine.
Fuck you.
I'll create my own party then.
If you guys aren't serious about saving the country, if you guys aren't serious about draining the swamp, if you guys aren't serious about cutting all the waste, fraud, and abuse, then I'll just do it.
And while a third party is generally speaking a bad idea strategically, at this point, it's like you have to do it because doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity.
And if we can't get different results from this administration, if we can't get different results from the Trump administration, folks, then it's over.
It's done.
There is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
Now, obviously, that's not entirely fair to say.
There are differences, and the Trump administration is light years better than the Biden administration.
But when they start engaging in stuff like this, you start to realize: well, what is the difference at the end of the day?
So you have to start wondering then, what do you do?
Now, I would rather continue with the hostile takeover of the Republican Party.
And I think it starts at the House and works its way up to the Senate.
We thought with Donald Trump, we were going to get the massive reform, massive change candidate to president.
Now I think we're wondering about that.
It's fair to be skeptical about that.
But is an America Party candidate now the best option that you have for real reform in Washington, D.C.?
Somebody leaks an FBI memo from who knows who, from who knows when.
Somebody leaks it to Axios.
And the White House that complains about leakers all the time and the Trump administration that tries to crack down on leakers all the time, they don't even say anything about it.
They're acting like it didn't even happen.
Who leaked this to Axios on 4th of July weekend?
They didn't even deny it.
They could have easily denied it.
And they could have said, oh, that's fake and try to run cover on this and not have this absolute disaster.
Instead, they say, oh, yeah, it's real.
Nothing to see here.
Case closed after a leak.
No press conference.
No official press release.
Still no public statements from anybody at the DOJ or the FBI.
I don't count a post on social media for that.
It's one of the biggest campaign issues.
It's one of the biggest stories of modern-day America.
And they just do a leak to Axios and then say, case closed, that's it.
And then Netanyahu comes to town and it's just like, oh, yeah, totally normal.
It's not good.
It's not good.
So with that, and I've already played all the clips of Patel and Bongino and Bondi and Trump and Alina Haba and J.D. Vance.
We've never dealt with this from a Trump administration before.
We've never dealt with this.
And even through all the different press secretaries that he had in his first four years and the first six months of Caroline Levitt, we've never dealt with this before.
And it started with the Iran strikes.
But ever since the Iran strikes, they've been dishonest with us.
And that's just a fact.
And I'm not even talking about did the bunker busters destroy the nuclear facilities or not.
I'm not even talking about that.
They knew that's not what America wanted.
They knew striking Iran was getting involved in Israel's war.
It's not what America wanted.
So they had to present it as something else.
They had to present it as America first.
They had to present it as pro-America.
But we all saw what happened.
So between not doing the doge cuts and getting rid of Musk, striking Iran, and now the Epstein files, we're in a different world now.
We're in a different world with the Trump administration that we've never been in before.
We're getting propagandized.
We're getting lied to, and we just don't know what to do.
Faith has been eroded.
Trust has been eroded.
The DOJ, the FBI, they've all been discredited.
And then Trump is up here as the MAGA base is fracturing, as Trump supporters are reeling.
We're up here embracing Netanyahu, celebrating Netanyahu, the biggest war criminal on the planet.
Israel just bombing people for fun, literally.
And that's all we get.
It's not good.
It's not good.
But you can't deny it's true.
You can't deny that's what's going on.
And at this point, it's like the only people that are just doing it for personal reasons because they want to continue to get the access or they want to continue to get paid on social media to promote the propaganda.
But that's pretty much it.
That's pretty much it.
So with that, we open the phone lines.
747-255-60, 747-255-60.
And I just want to get your thoughts.
I just want to get your thoughts on this Epstein debacle.
I didn't have time to take calls today because there was too much news on the desk.
So we will take calls tonight.
All right.
Now, this is how it goes.
We are line to line.
So I pick up.
I ask you your name and where you're from, and you're on the air.
Maybe you can maybe you can send in his office a message and see how he feels about that.
Lankford is not, he's not the worst.
He's not the best either.
He kind of just falls in the middle of the pack.
He's done some good things, some bad things.
But, you know, here's another reality that some people are in denial of.
Trump's political capital is losing its value fast.
I mean, it's tanking.
And you're almost reaching a point where Bernie Sanders and even Elon Musk have more political capital than Trump.
And people will be shocked to hear this.
They might not want to believe it, but I'm telling you, it's true.
Do not doubt me on this, folks.
Trump coming out.
I mean, Trump endorses Randy Fine and tries to throw Thomas Massey under the bus.
Are you kidding me?
Randy Fine is a psychotic that belongs in a mental institution.
And Thomas Massey is one of the last principled conservatives left in Congress.
So Trump's endorsement, you know, this whole idea that Trumpism and MAGA is going to continue through multiple election cycles.
I'm sorry.
It's slowly withering away and dying with every passing day that we don't get deep state arrests.
And it's like, I don't want to sit here and do this whole, I don't want to sit here and do this whole Middle East game all day long about Muslims and Jews and Israel.
It's like, I don't want to do this.
I don't want to care about it.
I don't want to cover it.
I want to be talking about deep state arrests.
I want to be talking about American politicians that are corrupted and that need to be arrested.
I want to talk about the people that spied on Donald Trump getting arrested.
I want to talk about the people that ran the Autopen in the Biden years getting arrested.
I want to talk about the people that facilitated the invasion of our country getting arrested.
I want to talk about the people that were Epstein's clients that were raping little girls getting arrested.
That's what I want to be talking about.
But it's like, oh, no, now I have to sit here and debate about Israel.
Now I have to sit here and debate about Muslims and Jews.
And I'm damn sick of it, man.
It shouldn't have anything to do with my politics.
The Middle East shouldn't have anything to do with this administration.
And now it's dominated it.
Now it's the number one thing in this administration.
Now it's the number one thing in political commentary is Israel and the Middle East.
And it shouldn't have anything to do with this.
We should be focused on America first and America only right now.
But no, it's just, oh, Israel all day, Ukraine all day, and on Sunday too.
It's just everybody but America.
Middle East, Middle East, Iran, Iran, Israel, all fucking day.
Meanwhile, 4th of July weekend, Philadelphia, mass shooting.
Chicago, mass shooting.
Floods in North Carolina.
Floods in Texas.
Hawaii is back on fire.
And is anybody talking about that?
No, you're talking about Epstein, a damn pedophile, sex trafficker, mosad agent, and Netanyahu back in town convincing Trump to do another regime change war in Iran.
First thing I wanted to do, because I haven't had a chance to call in since the whole drama about you being fake MAGA and getting hate on X and that.
I remember I posted on one of the things.
I just wanted to say that, you know, until you've actually spent an, you know, I would say a day, but until you spend an hour in a jail cell for ultimately your support over Donald Trump, I don't want to, I will not hear anything from anybody about saying that Owen is fake MAGA or he or he fell off the,
you know, fell off the cliff or, you know, whatever you want to say about it because Owen was MAGA before any of these clowns was MAGA.
And it's funny now because the same people who will criticize you for saying something against Trump were the same ones back in 2016, I guarantee it, that would get, that would criticize you for saying something that was pro-Trump.
These were the same people that said, that said Trump didn't have a chance to win and everything.
But you know, what you're saying is true, actually.
And I didn't even think about that extra little addition that you made there because, yeah, I noticed, because this is what's happened with me.
In 2015 and 2016, when I was supporting Trump since day one, out on the streets, everything, I was attacked by right-wingers.
And the addition you made there was exactly that.
It said, oh, supporting Trump is going to cost us the election.
If you support Trump, a Democrat will win the election.
You can't support Trump.
You're giving it to Hillary.
Well, I guess none of them ended up thanking me for getting Trump in and supporting him the whole time.
That's fine.
We didn't do it for that.
We didn't do it for Trump.
We did it for the country.
And it was obviously the right decision.
And he ultimately won.
They were wrong.
We were right.
So, yeah.
So I was dealing with, I was being attacked by the right in 2015 and 2016.
Then I was attacked from the left in 2017 to 2024.
Now I'm being attacked by the right again.
And it just tells me I'm being consistent.
And it just shows how everybody else just kind of moves and changes their mindset and their politics and everything else, depending on who's in power and what.
And they really don't have any base to stand on.
They really don't have any foundation.
But other than to just deal with the attacks that don't really bother me, I've been dealing with ever I started in politics.
It really just comes down to I'm right.
Okay?
I was right about the Iran strikes damaging Trump's base.
I was right about turning on Elon Musk, now hurting Republicans.
And now you're looking at a situation where even the people that attacked me are panicking and freaking out about how the coalition is done and the Democrats are going to win the midterms.
I said that a month ago and you attacked me for it.
So it's just like, I'm just reporting facts.
I'm just doing political play-by-play, calling it as I see it on the field.
It's like if I'm sitting in a booth, if I'm sitting in a sports booth and a guy fumbles the ball, the home team fumbles the ball and I said, oh, the ball is fumbled and the opposing team gets it.
He didn't fumble the ball.
That wasn't a fumble.
How dare you call it a fumble?
And then here comes the other team running out on the field with their quarterback about to score.
And it's like, see, there's this.
There's a fumble.
So it's just weird, man.
It's just we're in this hyper speed zone where the political landscape is changing like a like a like a tsunami, like a flood just hit it.
But I wanted to give my take on the whole situation that you were talking about with, you know, the Epstein and Israel and everything.
And my take on it, you know, may not be, you may or may not agree with it.
A lot of this audience may or may not agree with it.
But what I feel is to get mad at somebody like Bongino or Patel or Levitt is just pointless because they're just useful idiots.
And it's not so much that Trump or America, you know what I mean?
To ask if they're being blackmailed is like to ask if the sun's going to come up in the morning.
Of course they're being blackmailed.
Now, Epstein, Maxwell, the ties to Massaud are obvious.
I mean, Delaine Maxwell's dad was a known Massaud agent over in Europe.
And I believe that ultimately, if you want to understand why, you know, is politics as usual, why it's always Israel, why it's always, it's because they're the ones.
It's not so much to say that, like, I understand on the surface, you can look and say, we don't need Israel.
Israel needs us.
But in all reality, I believe it's that Israel owns us.
Now, like I said, I might have a more extreme opinion about that.
But the other thing I think people are missing the point on, you know, we're being fed this, you know, I see a lot even from the normie right, you know, of the anti-Muslim stuff, whatever, you know, and that's all fine and good.
I don't want Muslims coming in this country either.
Well, you see, I believe the Muslims are just simply, I guess you could put it in like to paraphrase it or to frame it or whatever.
The Muslims are just simply the bullet that's being put into the gun that's ultimately being fired by Israel.
This all goes back to Israel and the Zog.
Basically, this all goes back to Zog, the Zionist-occupied government.
And it's not just America.
It's every free Western civilization.
Well, quote, free Western civilization.
Look at the invasions in Europe.
Look at the invasions in Canada.
Look at the invasions here.
Look at the invasions in Australia, New Zealand.
It goes on.
All the majority white countries are being invaded by non-white migrants that are, you know, taking jobs from the economy, causing violence in the streets.
But the only thing we're destroying our culture is that the Muslims.
Yeah, well, I always kind of figured most of the people, if they were judging it, were just going to judge it upon their own belief system.
And I think it's a generational line where, you know, baby boomers and up feel Dinesh D'Souza was right about everything, and probably Gen X and down would be more in favor of Nick Fuenes' worldview.
But I think the reason why Fuentes won the debate is because that generation, which has been stuck in the same propaganda loop for their entire lives, as I said earlier, they just view everything as, oh, it's Democrat, it's Republican.
That's why Dinesh started calling Nick Fuenes a Democrat, which is obviously not, because they just look at everything like that.
It's like, oh, if you don't support Israel, you're just a leftist liberal Democrat.
Well, no, it's way more complex than that.
But I think the reason why Fuentes ends up winning, and it's the same reason why Ted Cruz really got embarrassed by Tucker Carlson, they have never been forced to defend their stance on Israel.
They've never been forced to defend it.
All they've ever had to say was, oh, and when they're actually forced to defend their stance on the issues, they don't know what to do because they can't just say, oh, you sound like a Democrat or you're an anti-Semite.
It doesn't work anymore.
So I think that that's kind of the issue that Dinesh ran into.
And either way, though, I think it comes back down to the same thing.
We are just done.
We're done with the Middle East.
I'm sick of hearing about it.
I'm sick of the Israelis everywhere on social media.
I'm sick of the Israelis everywhere over the White House, all over this administration, continuing to manipulate our foreign policy.
Yeah, no, I, yeah, I think, you know, it's hard to express in words, right?
It's hard to express in words.
You're finding your way to express it here.
Don, the first caller, had his way of expressing it.
I'm trying to express it in my way.
But I guess, you know, boil it down.
Yeah, we feel like we've been kicked in the balls.
We feel like a part of our soul has just been sucked from our bodies.
And we're just like, hey, what the hell is going on here?
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Yeah, no, it's just kind of like any combat zone you've been in, and when you get back is, and then all of a sudden you really realize what happened over there and you were there.
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It's just like, oh, I'll go because you're 35.
So you're more analyzed with the Afghanistan war.
So all of a sudden you find out you're this guy over there fighting for freedom and you're garden poppy fields.
And even the guy that killed Bin Laden is starting to get really more public about questioning the intent of the war and who's who's it really for Israel or America.
So even Robert O'Neill, I believe is the name, who's a great guy, by the way.
Even he is starting to sit here and kind of get more public about this.
But how could you not?
How could you ignore this?
It's so obvious.
It's so in our face.
And, you know, I think another issue of it, too, is the pushback, right?
I mean, it'd be one thing if it was kind of like political conversations or debate is normal, but the pushback you get for just saying, hey, you know, maybe our term with Israel and our Middle East allies is up, or hey, maybe this partnership with Israel hasn't benefited us.
Hey, maybe our foreign policy in the Middle East has been detrimental.
It's just like, oh my God, anti-Semite.
Oh, my God.
You don't get it.
Oh, my God.
You're a terrorist sympathizer.
Oh, my God.
You love the Muslims.
Oh, my God.
You love the Moo.
It's like, what?
Nobody even said that.
So then that just pushes you even further to the other side of the aisle.
And I, I well, you know, you know, you know, have you seen those?
Have you seen those images?
Musk used to share this all the time: how it's a guy standing in the center, and the left keeps going farther to the left, and then eventually you're like on the right because he keeps going so far to the left.
Have you seen these?
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No, I haven't.
You just reminded me of my sheep dog when I was a kid.
My parents would throw a lavish party.
And the next thing you know, we were all standing in the middle of the center of the living room.
I was just saying it like this, and I thank you for the call.
That's what's happened with the Israel issue.
So it's like, I mean, really, because I was a neutral.
I was a neutral, maybe even a positive on Israel.
I was probably neutral, positive on Israel.
But it's, but it's the same phenomenon like the left-right.
It's like somebody standing in the middle, and then the left goes so far to the left that now they're standing on the right.
I was like neutral, positive on Israel, but now the Israel, the Israel lobby, the Israel supporters, and everything, now it's gone so far extreme to Israel first that now I'm anti-Israel.
So it's like, it's the same phenomenon with the left and the right.
Hey, I'm kind of disappointed as like everyone is with Epstein revelations going on right now.
But like, honestly, you know, you've been doing this for so long and it's kind of unfortunate.
But I don't know.
I really kind of expected it because I think it's just so horrible and that they can't release it.
That people's brains, you know, you saw what happened during COVID.
I think people's brains would just fracture and break, you know, when they saw the industrial use, the intelligence operations with the CIA and Mossad, you know, organ harvesting and adrenochrome, all that stuff is just too taboo.
And I think, I think you're totally right that, you know, it's up to the people to push the administration to kind of force them to do what they want.
It's one thing to have leadership, but like, you know, if they're not going to solve the case, you know, there are other ways to do it.
Like in, for example, you know, in Serbia, they had 17 people die because a train station collapsed.
And there was like 200,000 people on the street in the weekend.
We don't see that here for Epstein.
And then, like, how you saw yourself when J6 happened, they clamped down on crazy like crazy on any people who form a group that is a legitimate threat to the power structure.
But with Epstein, it's a crazy case because obviously, you know, Harrison mentioned it, but and you were mentioning with Israel, you know, but they had like a strict rule of there weren't they weren't allowing any Jewish victims.
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And I think that's a big, touchy subject with uh pardon.
You know, let me, let me, let me respond to that shortly here because this is something that I kind of try to tread lightly on while covering it.
It's one of the most difficult things to cover because of how sensitive it is.
But I mean, if there's, if there is a group of people that is actually exhibiting supremac beliefs, it is Jews, and it is mostly Israeli Jews.
And I would say the Israeli Jews, not the Orthodox Jews, are the most entitled brats in the world today.
They are the most entitled, petulant, spoiled, arrogant brats in the world today.
And the world is sick.
The world is sick.
And the reason why this is so hard to talk about, because I hate what's been done to just the average Jewish person in America now that gets villainized and demonized that has nothing to do with this.
You know, I was just on a friend of mine's podcast who's he's Jewish, and he was telling me how he's really, you know, he's been grinding really hard in the media game for a long time.
And, you know, he's just kind of asked me, like, hey, you know, how do you make it?
How do you get big?
I've been grinding at it, grinding at it, but I just can't seem to get any growth.
Like, what do I do?
And yet, because he's Jewish, people just say, oh, you don't know anything.
Like, oh, you're, you know, Jewish supremacists.
Like, no, he's not.
I grew up around Jewish people in St. Louis, always had a good time with them.
So it's like, but it's like you can't even really talk about it without being labeled on one extreme side or the other.
So it's just like, if I just say the word Jewish supremacist, now all of a sudden I'm an anti-Semite.
But can you not deny that that is their teaching?
Can you not deny that that is their religious doctrine?
It's like, I don't even care.
I don't even care if some Jewish person thinks he's superior to me.
It shouldn't affect me.
It shouldn't make a difference to me because I live in my own independent country and I'm my own independent sovereign citizen.
But then when everything I do pays for what Israel wants to do and all the Israelis are celebrating this Trump administration more than I am, well, now it becomes a little bit of a personal issue for me.
So that's kind of, it's a tough thing to walk on.
It's like walking on grass.
It's like walking on glass because it's like, no, we're not anti-Semites, but we're sick of the Israeli influence and maybe just outright control of our government and our foreign policy.
And I'm sick of these Israeli agents that have penetrated America's social networks, pretending to be America first, when we all know they're just agents of Mossad or the IDF.
Yeah, they're going to play dirty, but like, you know, what people fail to talk about is like, you do remember for sure how they were just not going nonstop with the Nazi stuff.
Hey, let me ask you if you think this is a coincidence.
The New York Post just published a story a couple hours ago.
The world is still not recovered, or the Jewish world has still not recovered from the Holocaust, how Jews are still suffering from the results of the Holocaust.
Yeah, well, New York, New York is a failed state, but I'm glad you brought up New York because that's crucial.
I think with the Epstein saga, he had Zora Ranch, but I think a lot of it was going on in New York.
As you saw how he was able to get out, everyone remembers that morning of where he apparently died.
There was like an armored vehicle that just like booked it from the jail, caught on Twitter at the time from the jail to the private airfield, and the private jet went right away to Tel Aviv.
And people always say, like, okay, well, if Epstein's alive and he had a body double, who was the body in the pictures?
And I believe, I know what's kind of out there, it's kind of a wild conspiracy theory, but I think they had Anthony Bourdain as the body double, that he signed a deal that he would live this life of luxury and be able to travel the world.
But when the time came, they could switch him out with Epstein.
You can see the face structure is nearly spot on, even without any plastic surgery and the timing of his death.
And then I'm supposed to be scared to talk like this because I might be an anti-Semite?
I'm supposed to be scared to talk like this because what?
Because I might offend a Jewish person?
But hey, you can go online all day long and every Muslim is a terrorist.
You can go online all day long and everybody that is in the religion of Islam is an extremist and a radical and going to blow you up.
And so that's commonplace to associate Islam with terrorism.
But don't you dare associate anybody with Israel or with the Jewish faith.
Don't you dare.
Don't you dare.
So shut up, white man.
Shut up, white man.
You don't like Israel controlling your foreign policy?
Shut up, white man.
You don't like us spiking the Epstein case?
Shut up, white man, the Holocaust.
Shut up, white man, the Holocaust.
Oh, you think it's a coincidence that they published that today?
Are you kidding me?
So that's what I'm saying.
It's like, but oh, oh, but now I'm an anti-Semite, probably.
Oh, oh, oh, now, now, help Schroyer's full anti-Semite.
Look out.
It's a joke, man.
And then, and then what happens?
Just like the left-right paradigm, just like the left-right paradigm, you just, you just force everybody into this realm of anti-Semitism.
So, so it's just like the right.
It's like people that were centrists and even leftist, now they're considered on the right.
It's like, oh, somebody that has nothing, has nothing against Jewish people or Israel at all.
But now we just get criticized all day long for wanting to have our own country, wanting to have a Christian nationalist sovereign country, wanting to control America again.
Yeah, that's what gets so obnoxious about this, too.
It's like, I don't have any problem.
If the Israelis are run by Jews or the Jews run Israel or that's their state, I have no problem with that.
I don't even care what they do in the Middle East.
Israel can be its own sovereign nation state and the Jews can run it however they want, whether it's the Orthodox Jews or whether it's the modern day Jews.
I don't give a damn.
It's not my problem.
You guys can run your country.
I want to run my country now.
unidentified
That's not my problem.
It's not my problem.
Settle your own fucking affairs on your own fucking nation land.
I have nothing to do with it.
You will never have nothing to do with it.
And you know what?
For me to give my money to support your call, I don't see none of y'all putting nothing back in the coffins over here.
I'm gonna look, I'm gonna put it to you like this: from where we sit at over here, all we're wanting him to do is put everything, all the policies in place, and get the fuck out the way.
After that, it's our turn, it's over with.
When I was telling you about young people coming up, we're getting it out the way.
That's why now you're seeing a lot of push for a term limit on these people now.
That's why you're saying that.
We have to get these old folks out the way.
This is old, this is old guard shit.
They got to go.
Yeah, they got to go.
You won't be sitting here for 40, 50 years.
We had enough with Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi being in office for over 50 years.
Dude, we're done.
We're done with that.
You have a minimum of 20 years.
That's it.
Any other job, 20 years, you're gone.
That's it.
We're not playing with this no more.
We're not about to sit back and relax.
Everybody, get on board with this.
Support term limits for anybody in government.
And you know what?
I'm going to go a step further.
Anybody in the CIA, FBI, and everything like that, you have 10 years.
You need to be replaced as well.
Everybody needs to be held accountable.
Everybody needs to be held in check.
It's time for a turn off.
When I say turnout, that means that you got to go.
Thank you for your service.
Say you bye.
Go do something else, but you're not going to continue to do this for a career.
There's no more career politicians, no more career people at all.
That's one of the best Dennis rants we've had in years, guys.
I've been talking to Dennis for years, and that he hasn't been on a rant like that in a long time.
That is a Dennis rant for the books right there.
Great call, Dennis.
Thank you for the call.
And this is why when I talk about the rise of AOC or Zoron Mamdani, I don't support their policies.
I don't support their politics.
I would never vote for them.
I'm just simply saying I like the fact that younger people are finally getting into the point where they can run for office and win because it has to happen, folks.
It has to happen because I believe that at least the radical left communists, I believe they're trying to reach the same place as us, which is fixing the country.
I do believe that.
But the people that they have a different means of getting there, they think the government is the solution.
The young right-wingers think the government is the problem.
So this is the real debate.
The people that are running politics now, all the boomers and all the geriatrics, they don't give a damn about this country.
They don't seem to give a damn about the country that they're leaving for us.
They don't seem to give a damn about anything, really, other than themselves.
So they have to go.
So it's time for younger generations to get involved.
I looked at Donald Trump as the boomers' last gasp to try to avenge or get redemption for the country that they're about to leave us, but it looks like we're not even going to get that.
Now, I will say this too: you know, Trump still has plenty of time to get things right.
And Trump still has plenty of time to fix the wrongs that have been done.
And Trump still, before he leaves office, could do world-changing things to save the country.
But I think to sit here and act like the direction things are going and what we've gotten so far from this administration has been America first or what we voted for.
I just, I don't think anybody that thinks that that's the case, I don't think they're being intellectually honest, and I think they have blinders on.
It's something like Q. But what I'm saying is, even if that is or is not true, Caroline Levitt today, when Ducey was trying to say to her about the list, not the files, just the list of who the clients' customers blackmailed people were, she kept wanting to talk about the graphic files.
And he doesn't care about the files.
I don't care about the files.
What I care about is the list of people that are supposed to be defendants at this point and should be under indictment.
Whether we can make the case and get a conviction doesn't really matter to me.
It almost looked like it was scripted between the two of them until he tried to capture her by saying, well, I have the transcript of what John Roberts actually said to her.
And it wasn't about the files.
It was about the list itself.
The list is a different thing from the files.
But you can't have hundreds of secret of FBI agents looking at porn and not taking down notes as to who the perpetrator of the child rape is.
That's the whole point of having them look at it is not to say how bad the rape is of the child.
They're there to figure out who the person is that.
But is Trump waiting until just before the midterms to drop the hammer and the indictments and all these people that are going to be running for office so that they can't take office?
They can't even run for election or re-election in Congress when he has them over the coals of being on the Epstein list, you know, dropping that the last second, kind of like the Hunter laptop revelation was too late to have any effect because they lied about it.
But I'm just saying, I think he's holding this in reserve, sort of as blackmail for now, and then he can drop indictments late enough to destroy our worries about the midterm elections.
I just want to say, like, what do you think on the perspective?
Like, the lost call kind of got into it.
Like, the information, the files, would it, like, that information would just be too detrimental to the national security, like, if it was put out.
You know, I understand that it's like a demonic cabal that is right and left that are probably involved in this or for sure are involved in this.
But, you know, I think Trump is very focused on getting us to be, you know, he always says it like, everyone says we're hot right now.
We're hot right now.
He thinks that, you know, even if we were to release all information, like on an international world scale, like not only would that make us look like, you know, absolutely crazy, like what the hell's going on over there, but you know, it's a national security issue.
When they find out, like, the people that, you know, if the public were to find out, like, some of these people that were have so much control were so compromised, you know, I think that could open a lot of doors that we were not even looking at yet, but it could really upset the population here.
The national security threat is having blackmailed politicians running our country.
That's the national security threat.
Not exposing them.
Exposing them ends the national security threat.
So I just don't buy that.
I understand wanting to cover ass and save face because it's going to be so embarrassing for our country that a bunch of pedophiles run it, a bunch of blackmailed perverts run it.
But no, the national security threat is allowing them to run it.
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I agree.
No, I 100% agree.
But yeah, I think he's just trying to give us the best look on the international stage.
And I don't think there's a situation where that comes out and we look good unless they arrested everybody that same day, which, you know, Pan Bondi hasn't been done nothing yet.
So, you know, I don't think she's going to, they're going to make it all a move in a day and get all these guys taken care of.
But yeah, no, it's very, it's a very embarrassing situation for our country.
I don't think he wants to be associated with that.
I don't know if he just wants to put it on pause until the next person gets in.
Well, there's no doubt that MAGA morale is lower probably than it's ever been.
Maybe, maybe lower than after they stole the election, even because at least then we were unified and in a fighting stance.
Now we're shattered and in shambles and don't even know who we are as MAGA anymore.
And there's no doubt the Trump administration is well aware of this.
They are well aware of it.
And as much as they try to save face, that's the look.
When you are already hurting your base and when you are already killing morale, and then you come out and say more aid for Israel, more aid for Ukraine, shutting down Epstein client lists, striking Iran, you're just driving a dagger into your base that's already that's already weakened.
unidentified
Yeah, they should have held off on Netanyahu coming for at least a month.
I mean, that makes it look everything look so sketchy, especially like you guys pointed out earlier, how they're already talking about they're posting stories that we should be even more sympathizing for the people in the Holocaust.
And it's like, now they're saying that the Holocaust survivors' children are affected somehow.
You, the United States of America, that sent men to die in World War II that you probably shouldn't even have been involved in.
You know, you need to be guilt tripped for this.
You need to pay that price.
You need to pay for the suffering.
unidentified
I just want to ask you one last question.
If we listen to our forefathers and we really looked out at international entanglements and, you know, like heeded that warning from our forefathers to be aware of international entanglements.
If we never got involved in World War I, two, three, or whatever, where do you think we would be at?
I mean, we would surpass like the Middle East by far.
We'd be somewhere in a cross between China and, let's say, the UAE infrastructure-wise, except we'd be richer and we'd have our Bill of Rights and Constitution.
So we'd be, I mean, we'd be unbelievable.
And that's what's so frustrating for me.
It's such a great point.
I have this thing where I can see potential.
I don't know how else to explain it.
I can literally see potential.
And so it drives me nuts.
It drives me nuts at a local level when I have friends or family and I see their potential and they're ruining it.
It drives me crazy when I see unhealthy people.
It drives me crazy when I see homeless people because I see potential.
I literally see potential and I see them not getting it.
And it drives me nuts because I'm like, you could be so much better.
But whatever at a personal level, you make your own life.
So, okay.
But I think about the country, and I think about the potential, folks.
And we just have no idea how we've been robbed and how our potential has been stolen and our future has been stolen.
We would have better, bigger infrastructure than China and the UAE, and we'd have more money, and we'd still be a free country.
And we just squandered it all away, and now we've become a third world country.
And you can deny it as much as you want, but the signs are all in front of you, folks.
$40 trillion in debt, homelessness everywhere, poverty everywhere, degradation everywhere, drug abuse everywhere, infrastructure collapsing everywhere.
Can't even get a basic highway project done.
Can't even rebuild the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
Our future's been stolen, folks.
It's been stolen.
And that potential is still there.
That potential is still there.
We can still bring it back, but our politicians have sold us out to the highest bidder.
And we've been so distracted with sports and entertainment and all the other fun cultural things that we have going on that we've just let it happen.
And I just wonder if it's too late.
I hope not.
I guess I don't think so because I'm still here doing what I do.
I haven't given up the fight, so I'm not going to say it's too late.
I just got on the show right now, and I just want to chime in on all the stuff that's going on with MAGA and the Epstein file and how disappointing this whole situation has been.
I'm not going to lie to you, man.
It sucks.
Stuck in 198900:02:52
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Me growing up, you know, I was always like, I always believed that this country was like the best ever.
And, you know, we were the shining star on the hill.
And as I've gotten older, I'm 45 years old now.
It's just like everything we've ever been taught just practically turning out to all be a lie.
This whole situation with the file, it's like they did all this stuff, all this switching off, Pam with the files and all this stuff.
You know, saying we're going to put it out, we're going to put it out.
And then what sucks is that everyone is so preoccupied and everyone has such a short attention span now because of social media, because of apps like TikTok and stuff like that, that, you know, we're on to the next thing.
Everyone's pissed off about this today.
Next week is going to be something else.
You know, so it's just like, it's frustrating.
I kind of sometimes wish I could go back to like being naive like everyone else that doesn't really realize what's going on.
Great movie if you want to sit down and watch it with the kiddos.
But the reason I bring this up is this isn't really a spoiler alert, but there's a character in the movie who was a video game champion in, I think it was like 1989 or something, whatever.
He was like the hottest thing going when he was 18 years old and he won all the video game titles and he got all the endorsement deals.
And, you know, he was the best and he was the most popular and everything.
And so this character in the movie, he's like stuck in 1989, even though it's like 20 years later.
He's a grown man and he's not even good anymore.
Nobody knows who he is.
He's lost all of it, but he's like stuck there, right?
He's like stuck in 1989, where he's still the video game champion.
And he's stuck in 1989, where he's still the, you know, the talk of the town.
And he's stuck in 1989 when he's still the king of the world.
But reality is, he's not popular.
He's falling apart.
His life is in shambles.
He doesn't like, so it's just like, I feel like that's where it's at.
It's like everybody, a lot of people here, maybe specifically the older generations, they're like stuck in this, they're stuck in Neverland.
It's like they're stuck in the America of the past.
They're stuck in the America that they grew up in.
They're stuck in the America of the high trust society.
They're stuck in the America of actually being the greatest and having the best and going to the moon and winning two world wars and all of that stuff.
And it's like, dude, we're not in that America anymore.
And so it's like they don't have this.
It's like, that's not, I never even got to experience that America.
My whole life, I've subsidized the entire rest of the planet.
My whole life, my tax dollars, my blood, sweat, and tears working in this country has subsidized the entire planet.
Meanwhile, the entire planet sends its third world dregs and it's sick and it's weak and it's needy into my country.
And then I have to subsidize them too.
So I don't get the high trust society.
I don't get to keep my money.
I don't get to declare victory over my enemies.
But it's like all the older generations, they're like stuck in the past.
They're stuck in this old world where it's like, oh, yeah, America no matter what.
And it's like, no, we've never experienced that.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's funny you say that because let me tell you something.
You know what I found out recently, all this stuff coming out?
That a lot of these countries that we give all these money to, they all have, they all take care of their citizens on our dime.
Like, I just found out recently that the healthcare is free in Israel.
I didn't even know that shit.
I'm like, wow, are we the only ones that are getting the shoulder in the stick?
I mean, look, Israel is the hottest topic right now, but, you know, and they've benefited the most from U.S. foreign aid and everything else.
But they're not the only country.
I mean, you look at Ukraine.
I mean, look at all these foreign countries, folks.
We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars all over the world.
I mean, just look at Central America.
We have been spending billions of dollars in Central America to help them fight communism and rebuild infrastructure so their people aren't starving and all this other stuff.
And then what happens?
30% in my life, 30% of Central America has migrated to the United States of America.
So not only am I sending my money to Central America to try to save their hellholes, they're sending their poor, their hungry, and their sick into my country, and I have to take care of them too.
So the whole world is stealing our money.
And it's all because our politicians have sold us out.
So we could go all sorts or go down all sorts of rabbit holes about Israel and all that.
I mean, if you look at it, World War II, I mean, they were welcome into Palestine, and then they started slaughtering them.
And every conflict that we've been involved in in the Middle East, they've drug us in.
So that's kind of obvious.
But if we want to worry about U.S. first, what about all these natural, so-called natural disasters that are happening here recently throughout our country when they're doing all sorts of cloud seating and things like that?
At least there's no America first that has enough power, influence, and leverage to actually redirect our care, concern, and attention inward to our failing and falling apart country.
unidentified
I mean, look at Texas.
I mean, there was reports of seating flights on July 2nd, right over the area that just got flooded the shit out of.
I just wanted to get that out there that look at all the shit that is happening in our country with weather and people just ignore it or people are like, oh, yeah, that doesn't exist.
And by the way, on that note, and I appreciate the call because we, you know, we are not, we're not, look, I'm not a negative person.
I'm really not.
I'm actually a very positive person.
I love life.
I enjoy life.
And I'm not a black pillar either.
I'm a realist, though.
I'm a realist and I do political play-by-play.
That's what I do.
So it's just like if I'm calling a game and the home team is losing, I'm going to say, yeah, the home team is losing.
I'm not going to sit here when the home team is down 10 points and say the home team is winning.
So no, the home team is losing.
But, you know, here's a silver lining to all of it.
You know, this is just going to spur the awakening and this is just going to spur the intensity of what could be, call it America first, call it America only, however you want to dice it, call it the America Party.
It's only going to spur that and energize that in ways that we couldn't even imagine.
Now, whether that equates to political victories or not in the future, you know, that's still too early to say.
But I mean, just look at the cloud seating issue.
My family used to think I was nuts.
Okay.
They used to think I was insane when I used to tell them about cloud seating.
Now they send me videos and stories and pictures of the cloud seating.
So aside from the political play-by-play that we're dealing with here, if I just look at my journey through the awakening and let's say it started 15 years ago, it's probably like 13 years ago, I'd say, when I shifted into politics from sports.
And I just look at the awakening that's happened in my 13 years, which is just a tiny little blink of an eye overall.
It gives me hope.
It gives me hope.
But it's just a matter of what are we going to have left?
You know, what is America going to have left if it takes another two election cycles to really change this country's destiny and take it back?
What are we even going to have left?
That's the big question.
And at 40 trillion in debt and going up, I don't know.
But I mean, the money's fake.
So who even knows?
All right, next caller.
How long have we been on here?
About an hour and a half.
We'll keep going for at least another 30 minutes.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Hey, Owen, this is Stacy from The Disgraced California.
Hey, yeah, there's like the whole theme should just be right now.
I'm so tired of Congress and them seemingly to do nothing.
I've watched a couple of things on C-SPAN where it's just a bunch of gotchas or bringing up stuff that has no relevance to the committee that they're on.
That's just been super frustrating.
I think Carolyn Levitt coming out not wearing her cross is very telling to her coming out and lying.
I think she may show the lie.
So I think you bringing that up kind of opened my eyes on that.
And I'm wondering if this is just kind of a stall with the whole Ed Span thing and if he was a CIA agent or if he is doing something for Netanyahu, if maybe they're waiting to charge somebody else.
And that's the hope at least, because I don't want to lose faith in Trump.
There is stuff that he's doing, like the whole perfume or cologne line, the phone thing is kind of yeah, it's yeah, it's very distasteful in my eyes.
Well, I just wanted to call first time call a long time listener, and I really appreciate you staying in the fight and everything that you do and for going to war for us every day.
I kind of had my fit about all of this last night when everything came out.
And today, I'm, I guess, I'm kind of just numb from it all.
But my point of view is we don't really have time to rage about this.
We really need to think about the next move ahead.
I mean, kind of like, I mean, you always like to talk about ball games.
If you're in the middle of a ball game and something unexpected happens to one of the players in the other team, or even on your own team, and you have to, you know, renegotiate, figure things out.
You're knocked off your feet.
You've got to get up and think your way through it.
I feel like that's where we are now.
And while, yeah, it's nice to get, you know, to blow off steam and, oh, oh, blame Trump.
Oh, blame Elon.
Oh, blame Pam Bondi.
It doesn't really, it's not going to move us forward.
No, no, but I mean, maybe it's because I wasn't expecting as much as everyone else was.
And the reason for that is for the last four years, pretty much every preconceived notion I have had has been blown out of the water.
I mean, It's, I always had inklings about things, but once once the pandemic hit and I started really learning the truth about things, I mean, everything.
You want to talk about assassinations.
You want to talk about Israel.
You want to talk about viruses.
It's crazy.
And as a result, I don't have any trust anymore.
I really don't.
I mean, I do, I trust InfoWars.
You're pretty much all that I'm watching right now is the Info.
I've pretty much dropped everyone else because I just, I get more meat and potatoes, like real news.
It's, I mean, I used to watch Steven Crowder and he made me laugh.
I used to watch Dan Bongino.
I believed in him, my brother from Queens.
I don't know what the hell happened to him.
I mean, he is just, he's a ghost of himself.
But still in all, we have to figure out where to go from here.
And people that are saying, oh, you know, kick Trump to the curb.
He's done.
We're done with him.
Well, no, we're not.
We still have three years with him, and we still have a year before the midterms.
And now is not the time to give up.
Now is the time to try and figure out, well, can we see what the play is here?
Can we see where they're heading with this?
Is there a way that we can quietly make our position known?
You know, here's, here's, here's, let me, let me try to communicate this.
Can we, it's like, what, what happens in this, in this phase?
And we've kind of been through it before, but never like this.
What happens in this phase where MAGA morale is at an all-time low and much of Trump's base, as you described it, is really ready to throw him overboard?
Where I look at it as trying to correct course or trying to do like a shock motivational speech.
Like, what's the movie?
Some guy, it's like a baseball movie.
I think some guy comes to the mound, the pitcher's like all out of whack, and the guy comes to the mound.
He's like screaming at him.
He's like, get your fucking head right.
And then pitch like, whoa, whoa, and he's like, boom.
And then he like strikes the guy out.
So it's like, it's like, do we shock MAGA back onto the right course?
It's like, do we, do we shock Trump back onto the right course?
Or does Trump get resentful?
Does Trump get resentful?
And does Trump think, oh, these people are going to throw me overboard?
Well, screw them.
I'll throw them overboard.
Well, we already feel like we've been thrown overboard.
So then does it become this new game where it's like Trump is trying to like hurt MAGA?
I don't know.
Because I see what's been done with Elon and I'm just like, not a good look.
Not a good vibe.
Not a good aura.
So it's like, what happens now?
What happens now that MAGA is losing morale?
What happens now that Trump is being criticized on the right more than ever before?
Does he get resentful?
Does he get cold?
Or does he like shock back into 2016 Trump?
And it's like, whoa, okay, wait.
Oh, all right.
I got to get back on path here.
So it's like, what is going to be the net effect of all of this happening?
Is it going to be positive?
Is it going to be negative?
That's kind of, that's kind of my big worry about it.
It's like trying to like, how do you decommission an atom bomb without it blowing you up?
We're stuck with this administration as it is for at least the near future.
We'll see if people start getting fired or leaving.
And then maybe there's some new adjustments or things we can analyze with that.
But as far as we know right now, this is the administration.
It's staying this way.
Trump isn't going anywhere, and that's fine.
I still think Trump's a better option than anybody else for president right now.
But you talk about the American Party with Elon Musk.
Normally, a third party is a bad idea and totally ineffectual.
I think the recent developments with MAGA morale going down and just the power and influence of Elon Musk.
I think now a third party could become significant.
It could actually be more viable than ever.
I think it's too early to say, though, right now, I think the best thing to look forward to is in the midterms, new faces and young people getting involved.
I'd say for the near future, it's getting younger people involved.
If you want to put an age on it, I'd say 40 and under.
The more people 40 and under we get, the better, I believe.
I think that that's where things, I think that that's where things are going.
We have to have a new young leadership.
We have to have new ideas, new blood in there.
We just have to totally upend this table of the geriatrics and the boomers and everybody that's run our country into the ground.
Everybody agrees that's the case.
I'm not attacking boomers.
It's just the truth.
I don't think anybody denies it at this point.
And so I think that that's where we look first is to say, okay, what kind of new leadership, what kind of young leadership, what kind of new ideas, new communicators can we get in there and maybe start to get a serious change in Washington, D.C. Because at this point, hey, look, we'll see.
Trump is in charge of his own legacy, but I think most people have determined that we're not going to get serious change.
We're not going to get serious institutional change.
We're not going to get draining the swamp and all of this other stuff.
I think most people have kind of given up hope on that.
Trump can still do some great things, and I hope he does, but I don't think we're getting this generational change.
I don't think we're getting this institutional change, all this change that we wanted.
I don't think we're getting that.
So now you say, okay, what can we get from younger generations?
What can we get from new conservatives?
I mean, again, I wouldn't vote for any young Democrats either, but it's like, okay, well, what can we get from them?
What are they going to bring to the table?
You're already seeing a little bit of that.
They're going full communist.
I don't support communists.
I never would vote for a communist.
But it's like, at least they see the same problems that we see.
At least they see that we spend a trillion dollars a war on foreign aid, but people will go into debt and get buried from a medical bill.
Like, that's just not right.
So, you know, I think we see the same issues.
We just have a different path of getting there.
So I would say in the near future, it's just looking for younger leadership.
And then, you know, once we get closer to the presidential election cycle, then you can kind of analyze whether or not the America Party is going to be a thing or viable or not.
But Musk has a lot of political capital in his hand.
He obviously has a lot of money in his wallet.
So, you know, it could seriously shake some things up.
Go hang out with your family, friends, whatever, grandkids, whoever it is you got in life.
Enjoy life.
If politics is ever bringing you down, and by the way, this is hurting myself because I want people to tune into my show every day, right?
I want my ratings to be high.
Okay.
But if it's costing you your livelihood, if it's costing you your life, if it's costing you joy and happiness, then, you know, maybe it's time to just say, hey, this is getting toxic and poisonous for me.
your name where you're from hey there Owen it's Willie California you know everyone in the cabinet had to pledge some form of allegiance I understand to Israel before they could even get in and I don't think the only foreign operative in the administration was Mike Waltz at a recent APAC convention the chairman stated that that
they were actually several that they were very proud of that they had groomed including Radcliffe and Rubio etc but uh but more questions surrounding Susie Wiles and her staff reportedly responsible for excluding DNI Tulsi and her deputy Joe Kent from the meetings you know uh and by the way Cash we actually caught him lying to Congress about Stu Peters do you remember that
no yeah Cash was uh grilled by um oh gosh one of the Democrats I forget and he kept denying that he even knew Stu Peters and I saw him on Stu Peters like three or four times he was on Stu Peters show yes no I wasn't aware of that I don't know maybe I was but I don't I can't recall it right now yeah well you know
and Susie Wiles I didn't realize this that it came out the other day I'm not positive it's true I should double check it but I was told that she uh worked for BB briefly back in 2020 with a campaign until they couldn't afford her anymore I'm not familiar with that either I mean look I'd have to go look at it all for myself I've been on people's shows I've been on so many shows I've done so many interviews it's very I mean there's people I've forgotten about there's interviews I've forgotten
about so I mean I don't know I might give I might give Patel the benefit of the doubt on that I don't know if you could really forget going on Stu Peters show um but again I I just don't have I don't have that knowledge available to really comment on that
yeah well I saw him on it I I happened to be watching back in those days I I did watch his show and I I saw Cash I saw the clips also well I think there's definitely turmoil I I think there's definitely turmoil in inside of the administration I think there has been since day one quite frankly um since the signal gate fallout since the leaks uh since the Tulsi Gabbard uh getting kind of uh stiff armed out uh so yeah I I think there's there's definitely turmoil
inside of this administration I don't think I don't think everybody's on the same page I think you're right I think you're right anyway it was I enjoyed your show this afternoon and tonight by the way we love your show thank you appreciate that all you got to do is be America first and be consistent that's it that's all you got to do it's like it's so hard to ask crazy next caller what's your name where you're from
little trippy from a classified location did you say uh Dominic Michael trippy from a classified location yes indeed I did surging on x right now let me just tell you something the last caller did they say something about Tash Patel appearing on Stu Peters that's what the last caller said
well I can confirm that he didn't just appear one two or three times he appeared eight total times when when uh when when was that when when was uh when were these appearances uh in between I believe 2001 and 2023 or four two thousand two thousand one yes excuse me 2021 I apologize oh oh okay yeah I think probably
They talked about all, you know, at this point in sort of the conservative, you know, where the narrative was at at the time, they spoke a lot about just government corruption, election.
I don't think they ever spoke about Epstein in detail, but they certainly spoke about the same exact things regarding government corruption.
So, but yeah, they were on eight times together.
And I mean, very clearly, Cash knew who he was.
But my main question, Owen, was just: look, I think that for all intents and purposes, the MAGA movement is essentially considered dead based off of the new division over Israel and also, you know, this Epstein thing and more of just this generalized establishment shift from Trump.
I don't think that we can put the toothpaste back in the tube.
I think the damage that was done to the MAGA movement after the Iran strikes was significant but repairable.
And that was more, that was more of an ideological crossroads and intersection.
Burying the Epstein story and tell us nothing to see here.
I don't even think we can analyze this crash yet, to be honest.
I think it's still too fresh of a scene to really analyze the damage yet.
And maybe we'll get a better idea.
This is the type of thing that the damage is so bad, it'll probably take days, if not even weeks, to really do a full spectrum analysis of just how bad the damage is from this crash.
But yeah, if the Iran crash intersection was repairable, I think it looks like this crash intersection, I think we're looking at permanent damage.
I think the body shop is probably telling us, hey, this is borderline, a total vehicle.
We may have some creative solutions on how to get this beast back on the road, but definitely looking pretty rough.
Looking more demolition than just a light scrape.
But yeah, I also wanted to throw in quickly: you know, this whole Epstein debacle has surely been a bad look for the administration today.
But how about at the end where they threw in, you know, not only another Netanyahu meeting, but a commitment to more foreign aid to Ukraine.
And then you actually discovered this, but it looks like the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers revealed in new documents that the U.S. is providing hundreds of millions to Israel in new military aid to build IDF air forces or air bases and facilities.
And these freaks, man, these warmongers that just can't seem to figure out how to have peace.
And Netanyahu might be the worst of all of them.
They just can't figure it out.
They can't put down the weapons.
They can't put down the hate.
And I just feel like they just have, they're just hell-bent on blowing up the planet before they hand it off.
They're just hell-bent on seeing all the weapons that they've made up and seeing all the nukes and just destroying their enemies and just hating their heart, hating their eyes.
That's my only concern is that this older generation is going to blow up the planet before they hand it over.
Yeah, I think all my faith in Trump is pretty much lost at this point, honestly.
I voted for him both times, but something's real sketchy about that whole Epstein just covering that up is ridiculous, in my opinion.
I don't really know what else to say other than that.
I mean, Elon Musk comes out and says that he's on the list, which we all knew, but I mean, to what extent?
And, you know, the fact that he covered, he's the one to cover it up after, you know, Democrats weren't in power for how many years and they didn't cover it up, but Trump did it in how many days didn't take him very long.
You know, they'll spray these things in the sky and everybody sees them.
The lines in the sky, totally unnatural.
And you say, look, they're cloud seed.
Oh, that's a conspiracy theorist.
It's like, well, what are you talking about?
You can literally see it.
Okay.
Well, I can just talk about in Texas.
Texas Weather Modification Program.
It's an official government entity.
They have a website.
They have public documents.
They show you where they're doing the cloud seating.
They explain the chemicals they're using in the cloud seeding.
They do public hearings where you can go ask questions and they talk about the results.
It's all public.
It's all real.
You say, hey, they do cloud seeding.
You call a conspiracy theorist.
So that day and age is coming to an end.
Everybody knows it's cloud seeding.
So now when do we cross the next threshold, which is, okay, stop telling me about man-made climate change if you're not going to stop the literal man-made weather engineering.
Because they want to control you.
They want to control the planet.
They want to tax you for carbon because you cause climate change when, which is a lie, when literally the government is there spraying all kinds of chemicals into the atmosphere, literally engaging in climate change.
So the government wants to tax you for climate change while they actually engage in climate change.
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So ridiculous, man.
I just wanted to thank you again for having me up, man.
I've been trying, you know, since you went on air.