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OSL 111 - Trump DOJ Says Epstien File Is Closed, Nothing To See Here
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, here we are live, Owen Schroer Live, episode 111.
Trump Department of Justice says Epstein File is closed.
Nothing to see here.
And there's a bunch of other stuff surrounding this now that we're going to be commenting on, but I really just want to take calls tonight and get your response to all of this.
I didn't have time to take calls on the InfoWars War Room today with a loaded news desk.
So I figured I'd come on here and take calls tonight and just get everybody's response to that.
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Now as we get the audience caught up here on Rumble and on X. Before I open the phone lines, there's a lot of things that we just kind of sit here and wonder what the hell is going on.
And I think it makes it even harder because we didn't really deal with this in the first Trump administration.
And that is Trump pro-Trump propaganda.
And so now we're kind of wading through all of this.
And you have the pro-Trump propaganda that's beyond just the White House.
They've got all their message carriers and standard bearers, water bearers, and I'm being kind here that uh carry water and and do pro-Trump propaganda on X to try to keep the sheep in line and keep everybody supporting everything he does, which is a cult.
That's what it is.
It's a cult.
So you now have a Trump cult.
And I, and I understand why it happens at a personal level.
People want to make money, they're getting paid to do it.
They want the X payouts.
They've in they've created an entire brand, an entire personality off Trump off of MAGA.
And if so that goes sideways, or if that goes wrong, or if that loses popularity, they don't know what they're going to do.
And so it kind of makes it a little confusing to see people on your same team, but then attacking you for having a disagreement or attacking you for not liking a policy.
And in this case with the Epstein files, there's really no defense, which makes it even more difficult.
At least with the Iran strikes, you can sit there and understand there's an appetite.
People hate Muslims, okay, so they want to just bomb Muslims.
Uh people like the military, so they like a military success story going over there with the bombers and doing this incredible mission.
They don't like Iran.
There's the historical issues with Iran blowing up their nuclear facilities.
So despite my foreign policy issues and anti-war stance, I understand there's an appetite for that.
And you can have a geopolitical debate and discussion about the potentials and everything that happens, but now the bombs have stopped dropping, and you say, okay, it's good.
Well, they've stopped dropping one way.
Israel's still bombing at least three countries as of the ceasefire.
But that's just Israel.
And so covering up the Epstein case and the Epstein files, there is no appetite for that.
There is no excuse for that.
And then to see the administration doubling and tripling down, and now Dan Bongino doubling and tripling down.
It's extremely confusing because these are our guys.
These are the guys that are on our team.
These are the guys that we're rooting for.
And releasing the Epstein files was a campaign promise from not just Trump, but from Patel and Bangino as well.
And you could say, well, they didn't know they were going to be a part of the administration.
Okay, that's fine, but they are now, and they all talked about it.
And here we are, and now they just say case glows, nothing to see here.
How the hell does that happen?
How the hell does that happen?
It doesn't make any sense.
So we're all just caught here reeling like what the hell just happened.
Doesn't make any sense.
And all of this, as Netanyahu is coming into the United States of America to meet with Trump.
And so, of course, Israel's going to get more funding.
It turns out now we're continuing to fund Israel every day for their missile defense systems.
Now we're funding Israel even more money so that they can build more military bases.
It's insane.
And obviously, Epstein was a Mossad agent.
He also probably worked for the CIA.
Who knows how many intelligence agencies he was working with?
He was an asset for, but he was working with Massad.
It was a handoff from Maxwell, Ghilain Maxwell's father.
It was a handoff.
And maybe it's been handed off again.
But now it's just, oh, case closed, nothing to see here.
So Pam Bondi talking about all the tapes and all the footage and all the clients.
Oh, forget about that.
Dan Bangino saying never drop this, never give it up.
Oh, forget about that.
Cash Patel talking about how corrupt it is and how we're going to, you know, shut down the FBI and everything.
Oh, forget about that.
So I just, you know, I think we're all a bit reeling here.
And we don't know what to do overall with the administration.
We don't know how to respond to it with all the different stuff that's going on with this administration now.
And they're attempting the mass deportations, which is obviously a tough, a tough thing, but they're at least attempting it.
But then they tell you after they can give hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, hundreds of billions of dollars to Israel, no resistance, no questions asked, no oversight.
But then they tell you they're going to hold you, the American people, hostage, and say, if you want mass deportations, which you voted for, you have to pass this big beautiful bill.
So we can't get basic law enforcement, we can't get invasion response unless we pass the big beautiful bill.
And, you know, I I'll I'll hold out too much judgment on that and to say, we'll see.
But it looks like that thing's going to be a flop, too.
I'm sorry to say, it just looks like it's going to be a flop.
It looks like a big brother, big tech, big spending bill.
And even the tax cuts now have caps and different little weird tweaks to them that really we'll see if they even deliver tax cuts, folks.
So we're just sitting here reeling after being held hostage for the big beautiful bill when foreign countries and foreign conflicts can get aid without any resistance or oversight, but we can't even get basic law enforcement.
And now, right before Netanyahu comes to town, we're told, oh, Epstein file is closed, nothing to see here.
So ignoring Israel's involvement in our politics is impossible at this point.
Anyone denying it is being intellectually dishonest or has blinders on at this point.
It's the big elephant in the room.
And so now we're just sitting here, we don't know what to think about this administration.
The cultists don't know what to think about this administration.
The people that have supported Trump since day one and been through hell like myself, we don't know what to think about this administration.
Now, I have no problem being critical of an administration and still cheering for it and supporting it.
But at a certain point in time, you wonder, okay, is this really the administration that we elected?
Is this really the administration that we thought we were getting or has something else happened here?
And I think that's the deeper question that we're asking.
Aside from the Epstein situation, aside from the Iran strikes, aside from the big beautiful bill, aside from the Elon Musk fallout and everything else.
I think we're really doing some soul searching here.
And we're just wondering what is it now?
What are we really getting with this administration?
How do we properly respond to it?
How do we try to try to navigate through it?
Or how do we try to get it back on track, or is it totally lost?
Is it totally gone?
I think I think we're all kind of soul searching and struggling with this now.
And I get it.
I get it from all angles.
Like I said, I get it from somebody like me, who's been there since day one, been through hell.
I get it from the other Americans who I believe are good people and good patriots, but they've created a whole Trump MAGA brand.
They can't, they can't abandon it.
They need it.
They they It's literally their personality now.
So they can't, they can't turn on Trump, so they have to support him no matter what.
So we're all just kind of sitting here soul searching, wondering what the hell is going on.
And then and then we have to ask, what are we even getting?
What has this administration delivered for the American people?
And you say, okay, tax cuts.
Well, have we really seen the tax cuts yet?
You say, oh, well, um, the economy is getting better.
Okay, it's getting better, and I think it will get better.
But even there, you're still at a will see moment.
But I think, yeah, I think we'll do good on the economy.
Mass deportations.
That's basic law enforcement.
I shouldn't be celebrating basic law enforcement.
I didn't want to get involved in the Middle East.
Now I'm back involved in the Middle East.
I wanted to get rid of all the foreign aid and foreign entanglements, and now we're continuing it.
Shutting down the USAID, that might be the best thing that we've gotten.
I think shutting down USAID is probably the best thing we've gotten.
RFK Jr. has done some good things with Maha, but that comes down to a freedom of choice thing.
We need to shut down the welfare state entirely.
There's no deep state arrests.
So at this point, what are we doing?
What are we dealing with here?
Is it is it time to turn up the pressure on the administration?
Is it time to just kind of back off and let them deal with the backlash that they're getting?
I think we're all kind of just soul searching and wondering what is it that we really have?
What is this administration really going to be doing for us?
And I don't even know if it's worth talking about on this stream, but you know, I I got attacked.
I was called fake MAGA and the panicking and all this other stuff, and now all of those people are pissed off about the Epstein list, and I'm just sitting here saying, you know, this has been the direction that it's been going.
You are insulting us for calling it out and trying to stop it, and now we're here.
And the biggest attack was because I used to break down how the MAGA coalition was being split.
Well, now it's it's worse than ever.
Now it's worse than ever.
Musk is going to start a third party.
People already abandoned over Israel.
Now people are going to be abandoning over the Epstein list.
It's cooked.
It's totally cooked.
And you just report on this neutrally, you just report the facts, and then you get attacked, and that doesn't turn anybody on either.
that turns people off.
So that's where we're at here.
And now you've got to wonder what the political future really looks like.
And I gotta say, there's just weird stuff going on.
Caroline Levitt usually wears a cross, a crucifix when she does her press conference.
She didn't have it today.
Maybe that's insignificant.
We've had relative silence from the FBI and the DOJ.
Bon Gino made a post saying they're stronger than ever or something like that.
He says, Oh, we're better than ever.
What?
Because now the Trump administration is just being dishonest.
Oh, there's no Epstein client list.
What?
Imagine Netanyahu comes to the White House and he and he delivers Trump a letter.
This just happened.
And he delivers Trump a letter, and he says, Israel and and I, Netanyahu, we have nominated you for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Excuse me.
Benjamin Netanyahu is like the most wanted war criminal in the world right now.
And Israel is killing more people than any other country in the world right now.
So Donald Trump just got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by the most warmongering country in the world and by the top war criminal in the world.
What is that?
Right after they spike the Jeffrey Epstein client list and say nothing to see here.
right after they strike Iran for the Israelis.
Thank you.
It's not good.
It's not a good direction, and it's going the wrong direction spiraling fast.
Fast.
Of course, we just saw Maureen Comey spike the Diddy case as well.
He didn't blackmail anybody.
He wasn't recording anybody.
He just hired some hookers.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
Maxwell and Epstein were trafficking a bunch of young girls and underage sex slaves to nobody.
To nobody.
Epstein kills himself in jail.
John Luke Brunell kills himself in jail.
Multiple Epstein victims that were speaking out in the public, they die, killed themselves too.
Yeah.
So what's going on?
Is the Trump administration being blackmailed?
Is the Trump administration being death-threaded?
These are the questions.
And for all these disenfranchised Republicans that complain every time Republicans win and then nothing gets done, Elon Musk is now your biggest voice and your biggest representation.
And they're bitching at him, and it's just like, I get it.
I get it.
Here, I mean, they didn't even do the doge cuts.
Where are the doge arrests?
Where are the doge forensic audits?
All the crimes are getting covered up.
We're not getting deep state arrests.
We're getting crimes covered up.
Criminals aren't being arrested.
They're getting protected.
So it's like, how do we get this back on track?
Is it already gone?
Can we get it back on track?
What do we, what do we even do?
There's a total separation between Trump and his base now.
It's like alien.
We've never really felt like this before.
It feels like something entirely different.
Thank you.
So now you just think about the political future.
And you understand where Elon Musk is coming from.
He's now seen behind the curtains.
He's now seen how the sausage is made.
He knows it's disgusting.
He was expected things to be changed.
Nothing happens.
He gets boosted out in contempt and he says, okay, fine.
Fuck you.
I'll create my own party then.
If you guys aren't serious about saving the country, if you guys aren't serious about draining the swamp, if you guys aren't serious about cutting all the waste, fraud, and abuse, then I'll just do it.
And while a third party is generally speaking a bad idea strategically, at this point, it's like you have to do it.
Because doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity.
And if and if we can't get different results from this administration, if we can't get different results from the Trump administration, folks, then it's then it's over.
It's done.
There is no, there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
Now, obviously, that's not entirely fair to say there are differences, and the Trump administration is light years better than the Biden administration.
But when they start engaging in stuff like this, you start to realize, well, what is the difference at the end of the day?
So you have to start wondering then.
What do you do?
Now, I I would rather continue with the hostile takeover of the Republican Party, and I think it starts at the House and works its way up to the Senate.
We thought with Donald Trump we were going to get the massive reform, massive change candidate to president.
Now I think we're wondering about that.
It's fair to be skeptical about that.
But isn't America Party candidate now the best option that you have for real reform in Washington, D.C. You know?
You start to wonder.
But imagine what an absolute disaster this is.
And they're trying to act like it didn't happen.
Somebody leaks an FBI memo from who knows who, from who knows when somebody leaks it to Axios.
And the White House that complains about leakers all the time.
And the Trump administration that tries to crack down on leakers all the time, they don't even say anything about it.
They're acting like it was like it didn't even happen.
Who leaked this to Axios on 4th of July weekend?
They didn't even deny it.
They could have easily denied it.
And they could have said, oh, that's fake and try to and try to run cover on this and not have this absolute disaster.
Instead, they say, oh, yeah, it's real, nothing to see here, case closed.
After a leak, no press conference, no official press release, still no public statements from anybody at the DOJ or the FBI.
I don't count a post on social media for that.
It's one of the biggest campaign issues.
It's one of the biggest stories of modern day America.
And they just do a leak to Axios and then say case closed, that's it.
And then Netanyahu comes to town, and it's just like, oh yeah, totally normal.
It's not good.
It's not good.
So with that.
And I've already I've already played all the clips of Patel and Bon Gino and Bondy and Trump and Alina Haba and JD Vance, everybody was, oh, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein files, Epstein files, Epstein files, Epstein files.
And then oh, never mind.
No Epstein files.
What changed?
What happened?
And to me, look.
This is this is why it's so alien.
We've never dealt with this from a Trump administration before.
We've never dealt with this.
And even through all the different press secretaries that he had in his first four years and the first six months of Caroline Levitt, we've we've never dealt with this before.
And it started with the Iran strikes, but ever since the Iran strikes, they've been dishonest with us.
And that's just a fact.
And I'm not even talking about did the did the bunker busters destroy the nuclear facilities or not.
I'm not even talking about that.
They knew that's not what America wanted.
They knew striking Iran was getting involved in Israel's war.
It's not what America wanted.
So they had to present it as something else.
They had to present it as America first.
They had to present it as pro-America.
But we all saw what happened.
So between not doing the Doge cuts and getting rid of Musk, striking Iran, and now the Epstein files, we're in a different world now.
We're in a different world with the Trump administration that we've never been in before.
We're getting propagandized, we're getting, we're getting lied to, and we just don't know what to do.
Faith has been eroded, trust has been eroded, the DOJ, the FBI, they've all been discredited.
And then Trump is up here as as the MAGA base is fracturing, as Trump supporters are reeling.
We're up here embracing Netanyahu, celebrating Netanyahu, the biggest war criminal on the planet.
Israel just bombing people for fun, literally.
And that's all we get.
It's not good.
It's not good.
Thank you.
But you can't deny it's true.
You can't deny that's what's going on.
And at this point, it's like the only people that are just doing it for personal reasons.
Because they want to continue to get the access or they want to continue to get paid on social media to promote the propaganda.
But that's pretty much it.
That's pretty much it.
So with that, we open the phone lines.
747-255-60.
747-255-60.
deep.
And uh, I just want to get your thoughts.
I just want to get your thoughts on this Epstein debacle.
I didn't have time to take calls today.
Because there was too much news on the desk.
So we will take calls tonight.
All right.
Now this is how it goes.
We are line to line.
So I pick up.
I ask you your name and where you're from, and you're on the air.
All right.
Line to line.
I pick up, you're on the air.
First caller of the night.
What's your name where you're from?
Uh Don, Oklahoma.
What's up, Don?
Hey, uh, wow.
What a uh what a mess we find ourselves in with uh uh Trump just completely selling us out with this Israeli bullshit.
And uh yeah, it's okay to cut on this show a little bit, ain't it?
Yeah, we don't have any censors here.
Okay.
Uh well I I'm totally disgusted with the damn Arab Muslim lunatics and the uh Jewish lunatics, and then they come out to see them go, yeah, we've got to kill Christians.
These are Islamic or Jewish uh creeps and go, fooling the terrorists, or uh Torah, you're uh idlist or some sort of idolatry, yeah.
Idolatry.
Yeah.
Well, they don't believe in Jesus, so yeah.
Well, we gotta we gotta uh just stop ourselves and go, you know, screw Trump.
Screw the son of a bitch.
He's the one self-parailed, it's not us.
And I'm sick of it because I'm I'm getting up there a few years, and I fought long and hard to get somebody in there that could do something.
And I tried, you know, starting with ran uh Ron Paul, but uh he just couldn't make the cut because he wasn't flamboyant enough.
Well, it's fucking New York City piece of punk, muck, whatever I don't know what they call him in New York.
Other no good cocksucker traitors to this country, and he needs to be told his uh people that got him in there.
I'm not supporting him.
Uh, you know, if he's he's wrong on something, and I already been trying to do what I could with local politicians in the world.
Well, well, Trump is done.
I mean, he doesn't have to run again.
So it really, you know, he's he's done.
Yeah, but he's got he's got uh people like we got James Langford as senator, and he's coming up for uh re-election, and I don't know.
He just uh uh happened to run some sort of uh Baptist children's home.
I wonder what he thinks about all the fucking pedophilia shit.
Uh well I don't know.
Maybe you can uh maybe you can send him a uh maybe you can send in his office a message and uh see how he feels about that.
Lankford is not he's not the worst, he's not the best either.
He kind of just falls in the middle of the pack, he's done some good things, some bad things.
But you know, here's another reality that that some people are in denial of.
Trump's political capital is losing its value fast.
I mean, it's tanking.
And you're almost reaching a point where Bernie Sanders and even Elon Musk have more political capital than Trump.
And people will be shocked to hear this.
They might not want to believe it, but I'm telling you, it's true.
Do not doubt me on this, folks.
Trump coming out.
I mean, Trump endorses Randy Fine and tries to throw Thomas Massey under the bus.
Are you kidding me?
Randy Fine is a psychotic that belongs in a mental institution.
And Thomas Massey is one of the last principled conservatives left in Congress.
So Trump's endorsement, you know, this whole idea that that Trump ism and MAGA is going to continue through multiple election cycles.
I'm sorry, it's slowly withering away and dying with every passing day that we don't get deep state arrests.
And it's like I don't want to sit here and do this whole I I don't want to sit here and do this whole Middle East game all day long about Muslims and Jews and Israel and the air.
It's like I don't want to do this.
I I don't I don't want to care about it.
I don't want to cover it.
I want to be talking about deep state arrests.
I want to be talking about American politicians that are corrupted and that need to be arrested.
I want to talk about the people that spied on Donald Trump getting arrested.
I want to talk about the people that ran the autopen in the Biden years getting arrested.
I want to talk about the people that facilitated the invasion of our country getting arrested.
I want to talk about the people that were Epstein's clients that were raping little girls getting arrested.
That's what I want to be talking about.
But it's like, oh no, now I have to sit here and debate about Israel.
Now I have to sit here and debate about Muslims and Jews.
And I'm damn sick of it, man.
It shouldn't have anything to do with my politics.
The Middle East shouldn't have anything to do with this administration.
And now it's dominated it.
Now it's the number one thing in this administration.
Now it's the number one thing in political commentary is Israel in the Middle East, and it shouldn't have anything to do with this.
We should be focused on America first and America only right now.
But no, it's just, oh, Israel all day, Ukraine all day, and on Sunday too.
Just everybody but America.
Middle East, Middle East, Iran, Iran, Israel all fucking day.
Meanwhile, Fourth of July weekend, Philadelphia, mass shooting.
Chicago, mass shooting.
Floods in North Carolina, floods in Texas.
Hawaii is back on fire.
And is anybody talking about that?
No, you're talking about Epstein, uh a damn pedophile, sex trafficker, Mossad agent, and Netanyahu back in town convincing Trump to do another regime change war in Iran.
And we're just sick of it.
So yeah.
You wanna, you want to you want to destroy all your political capital?
And maybe Trump doesn't care.
I mean, I think we have to, I think we have to we have to negotiate.
Does Trump even care anymore?
Trump might not care.
Trump might be done with politics, his family might be done with politics, and he's making other deals to preserve his life and preserve his legacy and his family into the future.
He might not give a damn about his political capital.
He could be, he could be using up all of his political capital right now, including the Epstein list to leverage himself and his family into the future.
So, hey, if that's fine if Trump wants to do that, certainly he's earned it.
But now you have to say, okay, where do we go from here?
And if we're gonna have a new party, which I think is gonna happen.
Can it cross a threshold of relevance is another question.
Maybe Musk can do that.
But this is what it's gonna be about.
We're done in the Middle East.
We're done with waste fraud and abuse.
We're done with these intelligence agencies and these federal bureaucracies that are lying to us every day.
We're done.
We're shutting it all down.
We're shutting it all down.
And we're reinvesting everything in America, and we're repurposing everything in America and American citizens, and we're and that's what we're talking about, and that's what we're gonna do, and that's what we're gonna focus on.
That's what this country needs desperately, and we're not getting it.
And Musk knows it.
And it couldn't be more obvious.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from.
Yeah, this is Albert from uh Pennsylvania.
What's up, Albert?
Oh, not a whole lot, Owen.
Not a whole lot.
I should actually say, you know, I'm gonna change it now.
I'm from Yensylvania, not Pennsylvania.
You know, I I you know, I don't want to be affiliated with Philly and that.
This is still our country over here.
You know, and I mean that's definitely.
Yeah, Philly's basically New York anyway.
Right, right, right.
Uh first thing I wanted to do, uh, because I haven't had a chance to call in since the whole drama about you being fake MAGA and getting hate on X and that.
Uh, I remember I post on one of the things I just wanted to say that, you know, until you've actually spent an you know, I would say a day, but until you spend an hour in a jail cell for ultimately your support over Donald Trump, I don't want to,
I will not hear anything from anybody about saying that Owen is fake MAGA or he or he fell off the, you know, fell off the cliff, or you know, whatever you want to say about it, because Owen was MAGA before any of these clowns was MAGA,
and it's funny now because the same People who will criticize you for saying something against Trump were the same ones back in 2016, I guarantee it that would get that would criticize you for saying something that was pro-Trump.
These were the same people that said that said Trump didn't have a chance to win and everything.
So they're no longer the neo-cons.
They're the neo-mag.
You know what I mean?
That's what I'm gonna call them.
That's hilarious.
I could I could tell you what other people are calling them Magatards, cultists.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But you know, it what it what you're saying is true, actually.
And I didn't even think about that extra little addition that you made there.
Because yeah, I I noticed, because this is what's happened with me.
In 2015 and 2016, when I was supporting Trump since day one, out on the streets, everything, I was attacked by right wingers, and and the addition you made there was exactly that.
It said, oh, supporting Trump is gonna cost us the election.
If you support Trump, a Democrat will win the election.
You can't support Trump, you're giving it to Hillary.
Um, I guess uh none of them ended up thanking me for getting Trump in and supporting him the whole time.
That's fine.
We didn't do it for that.
We didn't do it for Trump, we did it for the country, and it was obviously the right decision, and he ultimately won.
They were wrong, we were right.
So, yeah, so I was dealing with uh I was being attacked by the right in 2015 and 2016.
Then I was attacked from the left in 2017 to 2024.
Now I'm being attacked by the right again.
And it just tells me I'm being consistent, and it just shows how everybody else just kind of moves and changes their mindset and their politics and everything else, depending on who's in power and what, and they really don't have any base to stand on, they really don't have any foundation.
Um but other than then to just deal with with the attacks that don't really bother me.
It's I've been dealing with ever I started in politics.
It really just comes down to I'm right.
Okay.
I was right about the Iran strikes damaging Trump's base.
I was right about turning on Elon Musk now hurting Republicans.
And now you're looking at a situation where even the people that attacked me are panicking and freaking out about how the coalition is done and the Democrats are going to win the midterms.
I said that a month ago and you attacked me for it.
So it's just like I'm just reporting facts.
I'm just doing political play-by-play, calling it as I see it on the field.
It's like if I'm sitting in a booth, if I'm sitting in a sports booth and a guy fumbles the ball, the home team fumbles the ball, and I said, Oh, the ball is fumbled, and the opposing team gets it.
He didn't fumble the ball.
That wasn't a fumble.
How dare you call it a fumble?
And then here comes the other team running out on the field with their quarterback about to score.
And it's like, see, there it is, there's a fumble.
So it's just weird, man.
It's just uh we're in this hyper speed zone where the political landscape is changing like a like a like a tsunami, like a flood just hit it, and it's just wild to see.
No, no, for sure, Owen, for sure.
But I wanted to give my take on the whole situation that you were talking about with you know the Epstein and Israel and everything.
And my take on it, you know, may not be you may or may not agree with it.
A lot of this audience may or may not agree with it.
But what I feel is to get mad at somebody like Bon Gino or Patel or Levitt is just pointless because they're you they're just useful idiots.
And it's not so much that um that Trump or America, you know what I mean, to ask if they're being blackmailed is like to ask if the sun's gonna come up in the morning.
Of course they're being blackmailed.
Now, Epstein, Maxwell, the the ties to Mossad are obvious.
I mean, Jelane Maxwell's dad was a known Massad agent over in Europe.
And I believe that ultimately if you want, if you want to understand why, you know, it's politics as usual, why it's always Israel, why it's like it's because they're the ones, it's not so much to say that like I understand on the surface, you can look and say we don't need Israel, Israel needs us.
But in all reality, I believe it's that Israel owns us.
Now, like I said, I might have a more extreme opinion about that.
Well, well, they they own our politicians.
I I would say if there, if there's if there's any dynamic here that ties into the Epstein situation, it's our politicians are blackmailed probably by Israel.
Who knows who else?
And how could you deny?
I mean, Israel has the most penetrative surveillance and and spy apparatus in the world.
I mean, look what they were able to do to Hamas with the pagers.
Look what they were able to do with Iranians' leadership, um, spying on them.
Look what they were able to do just in the body of Iran.
Imagine what they're able to do here.
Well, no, and I think that people not to mention they have all of their agents, they have all these agents all over social media, too.
Oh, no, for sure, Owen.
But I the the other thing, I think people are missing missing the point on, you know, we're being fed this, you know.
I see a lot, even from the normie right, you know, of the anti-Muslim stuff, uh, whatever, you know, and that's all fine and good.
I don't want Muslims coming in this country either.
But a lot of people, they're just stuck in this loop of everything is Democrat versus Republican, and Islam is your enemy.
They're just stuck in the loop.
That's their comfort zone.
They can't leave that comfort zone.
It's all they've known.
And so that's all that is.
Right.
Well, you see, I believe the Muslims are just simply, I guess you could to put it in like to paraphrase it or to frame it or whatever.
The Muslims are just simply the bullet that's being put into the gun that's ultimately being fired by Israel.
This all goes back to Israel and the uh it's dog.
Basically, this all goes back to Zog, the Zionist occupied government.
And it's not just America, it's every free Western civilization.
Well, quote, free Western civilization.
Look at the invasions in Europe, look at the invasions in Canada, look at the invasions here, look at the invasions in Australia, New Zealand.
It goes on.
All the majority white countries are being invaded by non-white uh migrants that are you know taking taking jobs from the economy, causing violence in the streets, but the only thing or we're gonna be able to do that.
Destroying our culture is that the Muslims.
Yeah, destroying our culture.
And by the way, and uh it's good to hear from you again.
Thanks for calling tonight.
By the way, I don't know if you saw this, but uh now Israel is claiming that the West is dead, so they've successfully killed the host.
The parasite has successfully killed the host, and now they're looking to latch on to Asia now.
It's just unbelievable.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Robert?
All right, Robert, what's up?
Oh gosh, you got to go quick.
Hey, I knew there was something off in the aura.
I listened to the Dinesha and um Nick Fluentes debate, and I sat down as a gambler and said, Oh, Dinesh is gonna destroy this guy.
And I sat and I watched it, and when it was all over as neutral, I said, uh Nick Flint has just won this debate.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, well, I I always kind of figured most of the people, if they were judging it, we're just gonna judge it upon their own belief system.
And I think it's a generational line where um, you know, baby boomers and up feel Dinesh D'Souza was right about everything, and probably Gen X and down would be more uh in favor of Nick Fuentes' worldview.
But I but I think the reason why Fuentes won the debate is because that that generation, which has been stuck in the same propaganda loop for their entire lives, uh, as I said earlier, they just view everything as, oh, it's Democrat, it's Republican.
That's why uh Dinesh started calling Nick Fuentes a Democrat, which is obviously not, because they just they just look at everything like that.
It's like, oh, if you don't support Israel, you're just a leftist liberal Democrat.
Well, no, it's it's way more complex than that.
But I think the reason why Fuentes ends up winning, and it's the same reason why Ted Cruz really got embarrassed by Tucker Carlson.
They have never been forced to defend their stance on Israel.
They've never been forced to defend it.
All they've ever had to say was, oh and when they're actually forced to defend their stance on the issues, They they don't know what to do because they can't just say, oh, you sound like a Democrat or you're an anti-Semite.
It doesn't work anymore.
Um, so I think that that's kind of the issue that Dinesh ran into.
And um, either way, though, I think I think it comes back down to the same thing.
We are just done.
We're done with the Middle East.
I'm sick of hearing about it.
I'm sick of the Israelis everywhere on social media.
I'm sick of the Israelis, everywhere over the White House, all over this administration, continuing to manipulate our foreign policy.
I'm just I'm done with it.
Owen.
Owen.
I'm 55.
Hello?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, I'm 55.
And I I call in one day say, I don't even want to hear about Nick Fuentes anymore.
And just to even sit down and have a clear head and listen to that, I was like, wow.
And I was like, I was scratching like because I would have lost money in Vegas.
I would have taken the money line and take easy money to Ness to win it.
Yeah.
I would have lost.
He was he was probably the favorite.
I don't know, depending on who you ask.
It's probably it was close.
Oh, okay.
So that's uh going with, but also with everything going on now.
I I live on the nice little beaches of uh Florida here.
I'm about done, about where you just go to the Ozarks or over to some little mountains in Tennessee and just call it a career.
I mean, this is that that's how bad I feel.
I've been kicked in the ball.
That makes sense.
Yeah, no, I I I yeah, I I think, you know, it's it's it's it's it's hard to express in words, right?
It's hard to express in words.
You're you're finding your way to express it here.
Don, the first caller had his way of expressing it.
I'm I'm trying to express it in my way.
But I guess, you know, boil it down.
I've yeah, we feel like we've been kicked in the balls.
Uh we feel like uh part of our soul has has just been sucked from our bodies, and we're just like, hey, what what the hell is going on here?
Yeah, no, it it's just kind of like any combat zone you've been in, and when you get back, is and then all of a sudden you really realize what happened over there and you were there.
It's just like, oh, I'll go 35, so you're you more uh analyzed with the Afghanistan war.
So all of a sudden you find out you're this guy over there fighting for freedom and you're guarding poppy fields.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, and and even the guy that killed bin Laden is starting to get really more public um about questioning the intent of the war and who's who's it really for, uh Israel or America.
So even um uh Robert O'Neill, I believe is the name, uh, who's a great guy, by the way.
Uh even he is starting to sit here and kind of get more public about this.
But how could you not?
How could you ignore this?
It's it's so it's so obvious.
It's so in our face.
And and you know, I think another issue of it too is the the pushback, right?
I mean, it'd be one thing if it was kind of like political conversations or debate is normal, but the pushback you get for just saying, hey, you know, uh maybe our term with uh Israel and uh our Middle East ally is is up, or hey, maybe this this partnership with Israel hasn't benefited us, or hey, maybe our foreign policy in the Middle East has been detrimental.
It's just like, oh my god, anti-Semite, oh my god, you don't get it.
Oh my god, you're a terrorist sympathizer.
Oh my god, you love the Muslims.
Oh my god, you love the Moolah.
It's like what?
Nobody even said that.
So then that just pushes you even further to the other side of the aisle.
I I'm not arguing with you.
No, I know.
I'm just trying to express it in another way.
It's kind of like trying to figure out how to argue with you right now.
And I can't.
Well, you know, you know, you know, have you seen those?
Have you seen those images?
Musk used to share this all the time.
How it's a guy standing in the center, and the left keeps going farther to the left, and then eventually you're like on the right because he keeps going so far to the left.
Have you seen these?
No, I haven't.
I you just reminded me of my sheepdog when I was a kid.
My parents would throw a lavish party, and the next thing you know, we were all standing in the middle of the center of the living room.
Does that make sense?
Did you have a uh what what kind of sheepdog did you have?
Australian.
Okay.
Those are great dogs if you can train them.
Oh, uh, yeah.
Tough to train, but tough to train.
But if you can Yeah.
Well, I was just saying it like this.
Uh I was just saying it like this, and I thank you for the call.
That's what's happened with the Israel issue.
So it's like, I mean, really, because I'm I was a neutral.
I was I was a neutral, maybe even a positive on Israel.
I was probably neutral positive on Israel.
Uh, but it's but it's if it's the same phenomenon like the left right.
It's like somebody's standing in the middle, and then the left goes so far to the left that now they're standing on the right.
I was like neutral positive on Israel, but but now the Israel, the is the Israel lobby, the Israel supporters and everything, now it's gone so far extreme to Israel first that now I'm anti-Israel.
So it's like it's the same phenomenon with the left and the right.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Hey, uh Max from Wisconsin.
What's up, Max?
Hey, uh, I'm kind of disappointed as like everyone is with uh um Epstein uh revelations going on right now.
But like honestly, you know, you've been doing this for so long and it's kind of unfortunate, but um, I don't know, I I really kind of expected it because I think it's just so horrible and that they can't release it that people's brains, you know, you saw what happened during COVID.
I think people's brains would just fracture and break, you know, when they saw the industrial youth, uh, intelligence operations with the CIA and Mossad, you know, uh organ harvesting and adrenochrome, all that stuff is just too taboo.
And I think I think you're totally right that you know it's up to the people to push the administration to kind of force them to do what they want, you know.
Well, so I guess I guess the question is, I guess the question is then do you want to be treated like a baby?
Exactly.
No.
No, they then they're babying us.
Yeah, you know, yeah.
Uh it's one thing to lead have leadership, but like, you know, if they're not gonna solve the case, you know, there's other ways to do it.
Like in, for example, you you know, in Serbia, they had 17 people die because a train station collapsed, and there was like 200,000 people on the street in the weekend.
We don't see that here for Epstein.
And then, like how you saw yourself when J six happened, they clamped down on cra like crazy on any people who form a group that is a legitimate threat to the power structure.
But with Epstein, it's a crazy case because obviously uh, you know, Harrison mentioned it, but and you were mentioning with uh Israel, you know, but they had like a strict rule of there weren't they weren't allowing any Jewish victims.
And I think that's a big touchy subject.
With uh with Epstein Pardon?
What you're talking about the Epstein victims?
One of the Epstein victims, she said that they had a rule that they didn't allow any Jewish children to be violated or Jewish.
I hadn't I hadn't heard that L escort.
Ask Harrison about it.
You know, I mean people always say, like, who's the body?
You know, who's the body they had?
You know, let me let me let me respond to that shortly here because this is something that I I I kind of try to tread lightly on while while covering it.
It's one of the most difficult things to cover because of how sensitive it is.
But I I mean, if there's if there is a group of people that is actually exhibiting supremac beliefs, it is it is Jews, and it is mostly Israeli Jews.
And and I would say the Israeli Jews, not the Orthodox Jews, are the most entitled brats in the world today.
They are the most entitled, petulant, spoiled, arrogant brats in the world today.
And the world is sick, the world is sick.
And and the reason why this is so hard to talk about because I I hate what's been done to just the average Jewish person in America now that gets villainized and demonized that has nothing to do with this.
You know, I was just on a friend of mine's podcast who's who's he's Jewish, and he was telling me how he's really, you know, he's been grinding really hard in the media game for a long time, and you know, he's just kind of asked me, like, hey, you know, how do you make it?
How do you get big?
I've been grinding at it, grinding at it, but I just can't seem to get any growth.
Like, what do I do?
And yet, because he's Jewish, people just say, Oh, you don't know anything, like, oh, you're you know, Jewish supremacists, like, no, he's not.
Uh I I grew up around Jewish people in St. Louis, always had a good time with them.
So it's like, but it's like you can't even really talk about it with without being labeled on one extreme side of the other.
Uh so it's just like If I just say the word Jewish supremacist, now all of a sudden I'm an anti-Semite.
Um, but can you not deny that that is their teaching?
Can you not deny that that is their religious doctrine?
It's like, I don't even care.
I don't even care if some Jewish person thinks he's superior to me.
It shouldn't affect me.
It shouldn't make a difference to me because I live in my own independent country and I'm my own independent sovereign citizen.
But then when everything I do pays for what Israel wants to do, and all the Israelis are celebrating this Trump administration more than I am.
Well, now it becomes a little bit of a personal issue for me.
So that's kind of it's it's a it's a tough thing to walk on.
It's like walking on grass, it's like walking on glass, because it's like, no, we're not anti-Semites.
Um, but we're sick of the Israeli influence and maybe just outright control of our government and our foreign policy.
And I and I'm sick of these Israeli agents that have that have penetrated America's social networks, pretending to be America first, when we all know they're just agents of Mossad or the IDF.
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna play dirty, but like, you know, the what people fail to talk about is like they you do remember for sure how they were just not uh um going nonstop with the Nazi stuff.
Everything was about the Holocaust and Nazis.
Oh, they did it again.
The New York Post, hey, listen to this into being Nazis.
Hey, let me ask you if you think this is a coincidence.
The New York Post just published a story a couple hours ago.
The world is still not recovered, or the the Jewish world has still not recovered from the Holocaust, how Jews are still suffering from the results of the Holocaust.
They published that headline an hour ago.
I'll pull it up for you.
Yeah, well, New York, New York is a failed state, but you know, I'm glad you brought up New York because you know that's crucial.
I think with the Epstein saga, he had Zora Ranch, but a lot, I think a lot of it was going on in New York.
As you saw how he was able to get out, everyone remembers that morning of where he apparently died.
There was like an armored vehicle that just like booked it from the jail, caught on Twitter at the time from the jail to the private airfield, and the uh private jet went right away to Tel Aviv.
And uh people always say, like, okay, well, if if Epstein's alive and he had a body double, who was the body in the pictures?
And I'm I I believe I know it's kind of out there, it's kind of a wild conspiracy theory, but I think uh they had Anthony Bourdain as the body double that he had signed a deal that he would live this low life of luxury and be able to travel the world, but when the time came, they could switch him out with Epstein.
You can see the face structure is nearly spot on, even without recon plastic surgery and the timing of his death.
Bourdain died like about a year before.
And if you look at the last episodes of Bourdain's show, they're super weird art level stuff, just like what uh Epstein was into.
Yeah, I remember seeing some of that.
That's that's a bit out there.
I'd never heard that one before.
But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
New York Post, world's Jewish population still hasn't recovered from the Holocaust.
Shocking analysis shows reminder of how many people we lost.
Again, so it just shows you Israel is losing support, and they know it.
All the Israel firsters in the media and in politics know it.
So here we go with oh, the Holocaust, the Holocaust, support us again.
Americans are suffering.
White Americans are on a decline, okay?
White Americans are becoming a minority in their own country.
And so, okay, white Americans are now in the process of taking their country back, taking their political system back, taking their institutions back, and then here we go again.
Another war in the Middle East for Israel.
And then here we go again.
The Epstein blackmail ring for Israel.
Shut.
And now here we go again.
The Holocaust white man, the Holocaust.
Well, I got news for you.
83 million white Christian men died in World War II.
That is a fact.
I don't know how many Jews were killed in the Holocaust.
It was too many, however many it was.
But more white Christian men died to save them, and nobody talks about them.
And now here you are again reminded.
No, no, no, white man, no, You're not the victim here.
So people are sick of it.
And then what?
And then I'm supposed to be scared to talk like this because I might be an anti-Semite.
I'm supposed to be scared to talk like this?
Because what?
Because I might offend a Jewish person.
But hey, you can go online all day long, and every every Muslim is a terrorist.
You can go online all day long.
And everybody that is in the religion of Islam is an extremist and a radical and gonna blow you up.
And so that's commonplace to associate Islam with terrorism.
But don't you dare associate anybody with Israel or with the Jewish faith.
Don't you dare?
Don't you dare.
So shut up, white man.
Shut up, white man.
You don't like Israel controlling your foreign policy?
Shut up, white man.
You don't like us spiking the Epstein case?
Shut up, white man, the Holocaust.
Shut up, white man, the Holocaust.
Oh, you think it's a coincidence that they published that today?
Are you kidding me?
So that's what I'm saying.
It's like, but oh, oh, but now I'm an anti-Semite, probably.
Oh, oh, oh, now, now, oh, Shreyer's full anti-Semite.
Look out.
It's a joke, man.
And then, and then what happens?
Just like the left-right paradigm.
Just like the left-right paradigm, you just you just force everybody into this realm of anti-Semitism.
So, so it's just like the right.
It's like people that were centrists and even leftist.
Now they're considered on the right.
It's like, oh, somebody that has nothing, that's nothing against Jewish people or Israel at all.
But now we just get criticized all day long for wanting to have our own country, wanting to have a Christian nationalist sovereign country, wanting to control America again, and it's oh, you're anti-Semite.
It's like, what the hell happened?
It's crazy.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
What's going on?
Dennis from Kentucky.
Oh, Dennis gets through.
What's up, man?
Nothing much, man.
Um we're we're at that stage.
We're at that pinnacle.
You you said it best, and we up there talking to that guy on the world room on your show, and it's it's it's just apparent to all of us, man.
We're tired of being the police of the world.
I'm tired of my money going to all these places.
It's over with.
Let them people do what they do.
If that's what they want to do, let them do it.
Let him do it.
Yeah, and by the way, that's why that's what gets so obnoxious about this, too.
It's like, I don't, I don't have any problem.
If if if the if the Israelis are run by Jews or the Jews run Israel, or that's their state, I have no problem with that.
I don't even care what they do in the Middle East.
Whether it's the Orthodox Jews or whether it's the modern-day Jews, I don't give a damn.
It's not my problem.
You guys can run your country.
I want to run my country now.
It's not my problem.
Settle your own fucking affairs on your own fucking nation land.
I have nothing to do with it.
You will never have nothing to do with it.
And you know what?
For me to give my money to support your call, I don't see none of y'all putting nothing back in the coffers over here.
Oh no, it only goes one way.
It only goes one way.
How much aid, how much aid are we gonna get from Israel to fix Hawaii?
How much aid are we gonna get from Israel to fix North Carolina?
How much aid are we gonna get from Israel to fix Texas?
Not a goddamn thing.
You know what you're gonna do?
You know what you're gonna get?
You won't even get a fucking audit out of needle.
Where's the Ukraine audit?
Oh no, no, no, they're getting more support.
They're getting more support.
I'm tired of this shit.
I'm tired of this shit, man.
This has got to stop.
Anybody that's supporting this bullshit, hey, you know what?
I got on your show and I said Elon shouldn't do XYZ123.
At this point, I'm like this.
You know what?
You're not going to defeat Massey at all.
I'm telling you right now.
No.
I'm telling you right now, it's not gonna happen.
That isn't that so strange.
Isn't that such a strange thing?
Because I mean, does Trump really believe that he can beat Massey?
Like, does MAGA really buy this stuff?
Like, since when did MAGA get so retarded?
Hey, if he believes that, apparently the man has hey, you have a better shot at Brashir before you have Matt.
You better shoot at Brashir.
Oh no, no, no, they want to they want to run the guy that lost to Brashir Against Massey.
They want to run the loser.
Good luck with that.
I mean, literally, good luck with that.
Because guess what?
Here, here, that man goes and he goes and knocks on doors.
He goes and knocks.
Massey Massey will never win a house race.
He'll never lose, excuse me.
He will never lose a house race in that district.
He will never, he can run forever.
He can run for the rest of his life.
Never.
If anybody, if anybody wants to put their money against Massey, you're a fucking fool.
Who do you think you he would?
I bet you he'd beat Trump.
I bet Massey would beat Trump in his district.
I'm gonna look, I'm gonna put it to you like this.
From where we sit at over here, all we're wanting him to do is put everything, all the policies in place and get the fuck out the way.
After that, it's our turn.
It's over with.
When I was telling you about young people coming up, we're getting it out the way.
That's why now you're seeing a lot of push for a term limit on these people now.
That's why you're saying that.
We have to get these old folks out the way.
This is oh, this is old guard shit.
They gotta go.
Yeah, they gotta go.
You won't be sitting here for 40, 50 years.
We had enough with Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi being in office for over 50 fucking years.
Dude, we're done.
We're done with that.
You have a minimum of 20 years.
That's it.
Any other job, 20 years, you're gone.
That's it.
We're not playing with this no more.
We're not about to sit back and relax.
Everybody get on board with this.
Support term limit for anybody in government.
Hey, you know what?
I'm gonna go a step further.
Anybody in the CIA FBI and everything like that, you have 10 years.
You need to be replaced as well.
Everybody needs to be held accountable.
Everybody needs to be held in check.
It's time for a turn off.
When I say turn out, that means that you gotta go.
Thank you for your service.
See you bye.
Go do something else.
But you're not gonna continue to do this for a career.
There is no more career politicians, no more career people at all.
That's got to stop.
Man, I'm done.
I'm done.
Let's go, Owen.
That's one of the best Dennis rants we've had in years, guys.
I've been talking to Dennis for years, and that he hasn't been on a rant like that in a long time.
That is a Dennis rant for the books right there.
Great call, Dennis.
Thank you for the call.
And and and this is why when I talk about the rise of AOC or Zoran Mamdani, I don't support their policies.
I don't support their politics.
I would never vote for them.
I'm just simply saying I like the fact that younger people are finally getting into the point where they can run for office and win because it has to happen, folks.
It has to happen because I believe that at least the radical left communists, I believe they're trying to reach the same place as us, which is fixing the country.
I do believe that.
But the people that they have a different means of getting there, they think the government is the solution.
The young right-wingers think the government is the problem.
So this is the real debate.
The people that are running politics now, all the all the boomers and all the geriatrics, they don't give a damn about this country.
They don't seem to give a damn about the country that they're leaving for us.
They don't seem to give a damn about any uh anything really, other than themselves.
So they have to go.
So it's time for younger generations to get involved.
I looked at Donald Trump as the boomers last gasp to try to avenge or get redemption for the country that they're about to leave us, but it looks like we're not even gonna get that.
Now, I I will say this too.
You know, Trump still has plenty of time to get things right, and and Trump still has plenty of time to fix the wrongs that have been done.
And Trump still, before he leaves office, could do uh world-changing things to save the country.
But I think to sit here and act like the direction things are going and what we've gotten so far from this administration has been America first or or or what we voted for.
I I just I don't think anybody that thinks that um that that's the case, I don't think they're being intellectually honest, and I think they have blinders on.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from.
Hey, it's Jefferson, Virginia.
It's F bomb Monday.
Everybody gets to throw the People are pissed, man.
People are pissed.
Well, they should be annoyed with uh Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.
If if what they're doing is is what they actually feel they need to do for national security purposes.
It's just lie to us about the Epstein debacle.
But you know, it was funny.
Caroline Levitt was clearly uncomfortable today acting like Karine Jean-Pierre and misunderstanding Ducy's question.
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'm sorry, I gotta pause you right there because you just pa you just brought this back into my mind.
You're so this is so right.
Folks, just look at the body language.
I don't know.
Maybe with Trump, he's not he's not done near as many public appearances since the Iran strike, and maybe this is why.
But look at the body language of Patel.
Look at the body language of Bongino.
Look at the body language of Levitt now.
Look at the body language of Bondy.
These are not the same people.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it's because they're just uncomfortable misrepresenting what's happening or straight up lying.
I don't know if it's something else that's making them uncomfortable.
But just look at the body language.
It tells the story.
Something is wrong in DC.
Something is wrong in this administration.
Well, allegedly they're they're protecting some sort of RICO investigation that's being conducted by the military, so they have to lie about what's going on.
What is that?
Is that a is that a Q thing?
It's something like Q. But what I'm saying is, even if that is or is not true.
I'm Caroline Levitt today when when Deucy was trying to say to her about the list, not the files, just the list of who the clients' customers, blackmailed people were.
She kept wanting to talk about the graphic files.
And he doesn't care about the files.
I don't care about the files.
What I care about is the list of people that are supposed to be defendants at this point and should be under indictment.
Whether we can make the case and get a conviction doesn't really matter to me.
I just want the names on the list of the case.
Well, she had her little she had her little she had her canned response ready to go.
You could tell that was just a totally canned response from her.
But it almost it almost looked like it was scripted between the two of them until he tried to capture her by saying, Well, I have the transcript of what John Roberts actually said to her, and it wasn't about the files, it was about the list itself.
The list is a different thing from the files.
But you can't have a hundreds of secret of uh FBI agents looking at porn and not taking down notes as to who the perpetrator of the child rape is.
That's the whole point of having them look at it, is not to say how bad the rape is of the child.
They're there to figure out who the person is that the case is.
So yeah, so so then we're supposed to believe that Epstein was the only person on those tapes, which is outrageous.
So what he's just recording himself doing this?
I mean, come on.
That's that's just that's ridiculous to try to sell us that lie.
And then if they say, oh, well, it's for national security purposes, so what does that mean?
So so so because people in our government or what?
So so because people that run our country or run other countries, because they're on these tapes, that's for national security, so we have to protect them.
So we have to protect pedophiles because they're in power?
I mean, there is no way that this is a good thing.
There is no way that they can declare victory here.
This is a loss, no matter how you try to slice it.
But is Trump waiting until just before the midterms to drop the hammer and the indictments and all these people that are going to be running for office so that they can't take office, they can't even run for election or re-election in Congress when he has them over the the coals of of being on the Epstein list, you know, dropping that at the last second, kind of like the uh Hunter Laptop uh revelation was too late to have any effect because they lied about it.
But I'm just saying, I think he's holding this in reserve, sort of his blackmail for now, and then he can drop indictments late enough to destroy the our worries about the midterm elections.
I hope you're right.
I hope you're right.
That's that's the only silver lining I can come up with right now.
Well, no, I mean look, it's fine to look for hope in all this.
It's fine to look at all the different angles, and that's certainly an angle that I think is potential.
Um, but right now I just don't see it.
That's a long shot.
Yeah, it's a long shot.
But that's just you know that's my two cents.
I'm out.
Thanks.
There goes Jefferson.
People are pissed, man.
This is this is there was an appetite for Iran strikes.
There's no appetite for covering up the Epstein client list.
None.
This is the most angry the MAGA base has ever been.
I don't know if there's coming back from this one, to be honest.
It's different now.
It's lost its luster.
But hey guys, we're gonna have a UFC fight in front of the White House lawn.
Total bread and circus.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Joey from Henderson, Nevada.
How are you doing?
Go ahead, Joey.
I'm good.
Thank you.
Um I just want to say, like, what do you think on the perspective like that kind of the last call kind of got into it?
Like uh the information, the files would it like that that information would just be too detrimental to the national security, like if it was put out, you know.
I I'm I understand that it's like uh demonic cabal that is right and left that are probably involved in this, um, or for sure are involved in this, but you know, the I I think Trump is very focused on getting us to be uh, you know, he always says it like everyone says we're hot right now.
We're hot right now.
And he thinks that, you know, even if we were to release all the information, like on an international world scale, like not only would that make us look like you know, absolutely crazy, uh, like what the hell's going on over there, but you know, it's a national security issue.
When they find out like the people that, you know, if the public were to find out, like some of these people that were have so much control or so uh compromised, you know.
I I think that could that could open a lot of doors uh that we were not even looking at yet, but it it could really uh upset the the population here and not just.
I I I disagree.
I disagree, and here's why.
The national security threat is having blackmailed politicians running our country.
That's the national security threat.
Not exposing them, exposing them ends the national security threat.
So I I just don't buy that.
I understand wanting to cover ass and save face because it's gonna be so embarrassing for our country that a bunch of pedophiles run it, a bunch of blackmailed perverts run it.
Um, but no, the national security threat is allowing them to run it.
I agree.
No, I a hundred percent agree.
Um but yeah, I think I think he's just trying to give us the best look on the international stage, and uh I don't think there's a situation uh, you know, where that comes out and you know, we look good, unless they they arrested everybody that same day,
which you know uh Pan Bondy hasn't done that since yet, so you know I don't think she's gonna they're gonna make it all a move in a day and get all these guys taken care of, but yeah, no, it's it's uh very it is a very embarrassing situation for a country.
I don't think he wants to be associated with that.
I don't know if he just wants to put it on pause until you know the next person gets in.
Uh I don't know if it's because of his involvement, but well, there's no doubt that MAGA morale is lower, probably than it's ever been.
Maybe maybe lower than after they stole the election, even because at least then we were unified and in a fighting stance.
Now we're shattered and in shambles and don't even know who we are as MAGA anymore.
And there's no doubt the Trump administration is well aware of this.
They are they are well aware of it, and as much as they try to save face, that's the look.
When you when you are already hurting your base, and when you are already killing morale, and then you come out and say more aid for Israel, more aid for Ukraine, shutting down Epstein client lists, striking Iran, you're just you're driving a dagger into your base that's already that's already weakened.
Yeah, they should have held off on Metanyahu coming for at least a month.
I mean, they that that makes it like everything looks so sketchy, especially like you guys pointed out earlier, how uh you know, they're already talking about they're posting stories that we should be even more sympathizing for the people in the Holocaust, and it's like now they're saying that the the Holocaust um ch survivors children are affected somehow.
Of course.
Like I don't know if you've heard that one.
And this is and you are you you need to be held responsible for this.
You need to be guilt tripped for this, okay?
You, the United States of America that sent men to die in World War II that you probably shouldn't even have been involved in.
You know, you need to be guilt-tripped for this.
You need to pay that price.
You need to pay for the suffering.
I just want to ask you one last question.
If if we listen to our forefathers and we really looked out at na uh international entanglements, and you know, like uh he did that warning from our forefathers to be aware of international entanglements.
If we never got involved in World War One, two, three, or whatever, uh where do you think we would be at?
You think I mean we would surpass like the Middle East by far.
We would have to do that.
Yeah, we would be we would be crystal country.
Yeah, we would be somewhere gold cities.
We'd be somewhere in a cross between China and uh let's say the UAE infrastructure wise, except we'd be richer and we'd have our Bill of Rights and Constitution.
So we'd be, I mean, we'd be un it'd be unbelievable.
And that's what's so frustrating for me.
It's such a great point.
I don't I have this thing where I can see potential.
I don't know how else to explain it.
I can literally see potential.
And so it drives me nuts.
It drives me nuts at a local level when I have friends or family and I see their potential and they're ruining it.
It drives me crazy when when I see unhealthy people.
It drives me crazy when I see homeless people because I see potential.
I literally see potential.
And I see them not getting it, and it drives me nuts because I'm like, you could be so much better.
But whatever at a personal level, you make your own, you make your own life.
So okay.
But I think about the country and I think about the potential, folks, and and we just have no idea how we've been robbed and and how our potential has been stolen and our future has been stolen.
We would have better, bigger infrastructure than China and the and the UAE, and we'd have more money, and we'd still be a free country.
And we s and we just it and we just squandered it all away, and now we've become a third world country.
And you can deny it as much as you want, but the signs are all in front of you, folks.
40 trillion in debt, homelessness everywhere, poverty everywhere, degradation everywhere, drug abuse everywhere, infrastructure collapsing everywhere, can't even get a basic highway project done, can't even rebuild the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
Our future's been stolen, folks.
It's been stolen.
And that potential is still there.
That potential is still there.
We can still bring it back.
But our politicians have sold us out to the highest bidder.
And we've been so distracted with sports and entertainment and all the other fun cultural things that we have going on that we've just we've just let it happen.
And I just wonder if it's too late.
I hope not.
I guess I don't think so because I'm still here doing what I do.
I haven't given up the fight, so I'm not gonna say it's too late.
But maybe the belief that this is all gonna happen with MAGA, maybe that is maybe that's dead.
I don't know.
That's what we're debating.
Next caller, what's your name?
from Next caller, are you there?
Okay, no caller.
Let's take the next one.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Let's try one more time.
That's two duds in a row.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Hey, this is Alvin Devane.
I'm from Austin, and I just wanted to say that this is the off-ramp you guys have needed for a decade.
So do with it what you will.
An off-ramp for what?
An off-ramp from Trump, man.
All right.
Well, uh, I don't want an off-ramp from Trump, but um if that's where this administration is gonna go, I don't I don't I don't view anything in a single lens.
So I don't think everything is about Trump or not about Trump or everything is about Israel or not about Israel.
I think things are complex.
Uh and I still would like to believe that we can save the country under Trump, and he's gonna be the president for the next three and a half years, so that's not gonna change.
So I believe he can still write these wrongs, and I hope he will.
But like I said, I just do political play by play, folks.
That's all I do.
Like I'm calling a football game or like I'm calling a basketball game or whatever.
I just call it as I see it on the field.
And this is what I see happening.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from.
Hi, my name is Marcos.
I'm calling from New York.
All right, Marcos.
Uh I I I just uh I just got on the show right now, and um, I just want to chime in on all the stuff that's going on with uh MAGA and the FC file and and how um how disappointing this whole situation has been.
I'm not gonna lie to you, man.
It sucks.
Uh me growing up, you know, I was always like uh I always believed that this country was like the best ever, and and and you know, we were the shining star on the hill, and as I've gotten older, I'm 45 years old now.
It's just like everything we've ever been taught is practically turning out to all be a lie.
This whole situation with the file, it's like they did all this stuff, all this switching off hand with the files and all this stuff, uh, you know, saying we're gonna put it out, we're gonna put it out.
And then what sucks is that everyone is so preoccupied and everyone has such a short attention span now because of social media, because of apps like TikTok and stuff like that, that you know, we're on to the next thing.
Everyone's pissed off about this today.
Next week is gonna be something else.
You know?
So it's just like it's it's it's frustrating to I kind of sometimes wish I could go back to like being naive like everyone else that doesn't really realize what's going on.
No, yeah, I understand where you're coming from, but no, we don't want that.
Uh let me ask you a question.
Uh just uh I'm gonna make a there's a reason I'm asking this.
Have you seen the new Minecraft movie by any chance?
No, no, no, no, I have not.
So uh it's actually it's actually uh a nice little movie.
I'll I'll give it four out of five stars.
Um probably really great for kids.
I'd say kids like it.
Great movie if you want to sit down and watch it with the kiddos.
But the reason I bring this up is uh this isn't really a spoiler alert, but there's uh there's a character in the movie who was uh he was a video game champion in I think it was like 1989 or something, whatever.
He was like the hottest thing going when he was 18 years old and he won all the video game titles and he got all the endorsement deals, and you know, he was he was the best, and he was the most popular and everything.
And so this character in the movie, he's like stuck in 1989, even though it's like 20 years later, he's a grown man, and uh, you know, he he doesn't, he's not even good anymore, nobody knows who he is.
He's lost all of it, but he's like stuck there, right?
He's like stuck in 1989 where he's still the video game champion, and he's stuck in 1989 where he's still the the you know the talk of the town, and he's stuck in 1989 when he's still the king of the world.
But reality is he's not popular, he's falling apart, his life is in shambles.
He doesn't like so it's just like I feel like that's where it's at.
It's like everybody, a lot of people here, maybe specifically the older generations, they're like stuck in this, they're stuck in Neverland.
It's like they're stuck, they're stuck in the America of the past.
They're stuck in the America that they grew up in.
They're stuck in the America of the high trust society.
They're they're stuck in the America of actually being the greatest and having the best and going to the moon and winning two world wars and all of that stuff, and it's like, dude, we're not in that America anymore.
And and so it's like they don't have this, it's like that's not I never even got to experience that America.
My whole life I've subsidized the entire rest of the planet.
My whole life, my my tax dollars, my blood, sweat, and tears working in this country has subsidized the entire planet.
Meanwhile, the entire planet sends its third world dregs and it's sick and it's weak and it's needy into my country, and then I have to subsidize them too.
So I don't get the high trust society.
I don't get to keep my money, I don't get to declare victory over my enemies, but it's like all the older generations.
They're like stuck in the past, they're stuck in this old world where it's like, oh yeah, America no matter what.
And it's like, no, we've never experienced that.
Yeah.
It's funny you say that because let me tell you something.
You know what I found out recently, all this stuff coming out?
That a lot of these countries that we give all these these, you know, money to they all have they all take care of their citizens on our time.
Like I just found out recently that that the healthcare's free in Israel.
I didn't even know that shit.
I'm like, wow, are we the only ones that that are getting the shoulder in the stick?
Like everyone else is being taken care of.
Everyone else is looking out of the world.
Well, I now hold on.
You ask the evangelical, the Jews are God's chosen people.
If Pastor Lock told me you have to serve them.
That's a whole other story.
I don't want to get into that.
I know.
It's just like, oh my God.
Yeah, but no, but you're right.
You're right.
Yeah, thank you for the call, Margos.
I mean, look, Israel's the hottest topic right now, but you know, and they've benefited the most from uh U.S. foreign aid and everything else, but they're not the only country.
I mean, you look at Ukraine.
I mean, look at the look at all these foreign countries, folks.
We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars all over the world.
I mean, just look at Central America.
We have been spending billions of dollars in Central America to help them fight communism and rebuild infrastructure so their people aren't starving and all this other stuff.
And then what happens?
30% in my life, 30% of Central America has migrated to the United States of America.
So not only am I sending my money to Central America to try to save their hell holes, they're sending their poor, their hungry, and they're sick into my country, and I have to take care of them too.
So the whole world is stealing our money.
And it's all because our politicians have sold us out.
To put it simply.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
Uh Kendall.
Um from South Carolina.
All right, Ken, go ahead.
Yep, go ahead.
Uh what do you mean?
What do you mean?
Go ahead.
I thought I was like kind of waiting on what you tell me what I want to talk about, or what?
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Jeremy, Indiana.
All right, Jeremy, go ahead.
Hey, Ellen.
Um, so we could go all sorts or go down all sorts of rabbit holes about Israel and all that.
I mean, if you look at it, World War II.
I mean they were welcome into Palestine, and then they started slaughtering them.
And every conflict that we've been involved in in the Middle East, they've drug us in.
So that's kind of obvious.
If we want to worry about um US first, what about all these natural this so-called natural disasters that are happening here recently throughout our country when they're doing all sorts of cloud seeding and things like that.
Why don't we worry about that shit?
It's a great question.
I uh that's because there is no America first.
That's why.
There is no America first.
At least there's no America first that has enough power, influence, and leverage to actually redirect our care concern and attention inward to our to our failing and falling apart country.
I mean, look at look at Texas.
I mean, there was reports of seeding flights on July 2nd, right over the area that just got flooded the shit out of.
Yep.
Uh same thing with Carolina, Hawaii.
There were so many places that were so hit and miss, just burnt to a crisp or not touch it all.
That kind of sounds like a D uh direct energy weapon.
Just saying, but people don't talk about that shit.
Yep.
And yet again, you know, as these Americans will suffer to get aid, Ukraine will get as much as they want.
Just announced today.
Oh, yeah, more for Ukraine.
So Americans are suffering more for Ukraine.
And and and you can't even, and you can't even get anything.
You have to sit here and and get held hostage over a big beautiful bill, but then oh, Ukraine needs money?
Done.
A big beautiful bill that they slid in fuck tons of little changes to last second, the day it was being passed.
That is not anything that any of us was hoping it was gonna be.
Yeah, and I'm and I'm wondering if these tax cuts are even going to be everything they're built up to be too.
I don't think they're I think it's all fucking fireworks show, man.
To be honest with you, right now, it's all just a big media production.
I think it's bullshit, and I'm fucking I'm like you.
I've backed Trump from the start, but goddamn, dude.
He's I'm really starting to have questions.
Either he's being held hostage or he pulled the fucking big wool over our eyes.
Well, you're not alone in that boat.
Well, I appreciate man.
I'm first time caller.
I love your I love your stuff though.
So I thank you, man.
I just wanted to get that out there that look at all the shit that is happening in our country with weather, and people just ignore it, or people are like, oh yeah, that doesn't exist.
Fucking cloud seating's existed since the 1940s.
Yeah, and by the way, on that note, and I appreciate the call because we you know we are not we're not look, I'm not a negative person.
I'm really not.
I'm actually a very positive person.
I love life.
I enjoy life.
Um, and I'm not a black pillar either.
I'm a realist, though.
I'm a realist and I do political play by play.
That's what I do.
So it's just like if I'm calling a game and the home team is losing, I'm gonna say, yeah, the home team is losing.
I'm not gonna sit here when the home team is down ten points and say the home team is winning.
So no, um, the home team is losing.
But you know, here's here's a silver lining to all of it.
You know, this is just gonna spur the awakening, and this is just gonna spur the intensity of what could be call it America first, call it America only, however you want to dice it, call it the America Party.
Uh, it's only gonna spur that and energize that in ways that we couldn't even imagine.
Now, whether that equates to political victories or not in the future, you know, I that's still too early to say.
But I mean, just look at the cloud seating issue.
My family used to think I was nuts.
Okay.
They used to think I was insane when I used to tell them about cloud seeding.
Now they send me videos and stories and pictures of the cloud seeding.
So aside from the political play-by-play that we're dealing with here, if I just look at my journey through the awakening and and let's say it started 15 years ago.
It's probably like 13 years ago, I'd say, when I when I shifted into politics.
Um, from sports.
And I just look at the awakening that's happened in my 13 years, which is just a tiny little blink of an eye overall, it gives me hope.
It gives me hope.
But it's just a matter of what are we gonna have left.
You know, what what what is America gonna have left if it takes another two election cycles to to really change this country's destiny and and take it back?
What are we even gonna have left?
That's the big question.
And at 40 trillion in debt and going up, I don't know, but I mean the money's fake.
So who even knows?
All right, next caller.
How long have we been on here?
About an hour and a half.
We'll keep going for at least another 30 minutes.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
But I mean, the money is fake.
Hey, Owen, this is Stacey from the Disgraced California.
It's good to talk to you.
Hi, Stacey.
Hey, um, yeah, uh, there's like the whole theme should just be uh right now.
Um I'm so tired of Congress and then seemingly to do nothing.
I've watched a couple of things on C-span where it's just a bunch of gotchas are bringing up stuff that has no relevance to the committee that they're on.
Um that's just been super frustrating.
I think Killen Levy coming out not wearing her cross is very telling to um her coming out and lying.
I think she shed a life.
I think you bringing that up.
Kind of open my eyes on that.
And I'm wondering if um if this is just kind of a stall with uh with the whole edge thing thing, um, and if he was a CIA agent or if he is doing something for Netanyahu.
Um, if maybe they're waiting to charge somebody else.
I and that's the hope at least, because I don't want to leave faith in Trump.
There is stuff that he's doing, like the whole perfume, the cologne line, the phone thing.
It's kind of yeah, it's yeah, it's very distasteful in my eyes.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, wait till you're wait till you're out of office before you start peddling sense and and all the other Trump brand stuff but he has been doing it forever so I mean I guess I get it yeah and and you mentioned earlier on your show how him um he gets real flustered with this whole Elon thing and I think you're hitting the nail on the head um Elon seems to really get under his skin you know I wish I knew what that was all about nobody's gotten under his skin like Elon Elon is the only person that's thrown Trump off yeah exactly
Well, I just wanted to call a long-time listener, and I really appreciate you staying in the fight and everything that you do and for going to war for us every day.
You make me laugh every day, so I really appreciate that.
Well, that's great.
I'm glad I can make you laugh, you know.
Maybe, you know, we listen to some good music here.
We have some fun.
You know, we have a laugh.
We have serious talk.
We try to do it all.
We're multidimensional and extra-universal here.
Or are we multidimensional and extra-dimensional?
Either way, probably both.
Thank you for the call.
Next caller, what's your name, where you're from?
Hey, Owen, it's Cynthia in Hollywood, Florida.
How are you?
Hi, Cynthia.
Hi.
You know, it's funny.
I kind of had my fit about all of this last night when everything came out.
Today, I guess I'm kind of just numb from it all.
But my point of view is we don't really have time to rage about this.
We really need to think about the next move ahead.
I mean, kind of like, I mean, you always like to talk about ballgames.
If you're in the middle of a ballgame and something unexpected happens to one of the players in the other team, or even on your own team, and you have to, you know, renegotiate, figure things out.
You're knocked off your feet.
You've got to get up and think your way through it.
I feel like that's where we are now.
And while, yeah, it's nice to get, you know, to blow off steam and, oh, blame Trump.
Oh, blame Elon.
Oh, blame Pam Bondi.
It doesn't really, it's not going to move us forward.
And I feel like, well, you just named, I mean, you just named every player on the team.
So it's like, what do we get?
Every player on the team is down with an injury.
What are we going to do?
No, no, but I mean, maybe it's because I wasn't expecting as much as everyone else was.
And the reason for that is for the last four years, pretty much every preconceived notion I have had has been blown out of the water.
I mean, it's, I always had inklings about things, but once, once the pandemic hit and, and I started really learning the truth about things.
I mean, everything you want to, you want to talk about assassinations.
You want to talk about Israel.
You want to talk about viruses.
It's, it's crazy.
And as a result, I don't have any trust anymore.
I really don't.
I mean, I, I, I do, I, I trust Infowars.
You're pretty much all that I'm watching right now is the info.
I pretty much dropped everyone else because I just, I, I get more neat and.
and potatoes like real news it's I mean I used to watch Steven Crowder and he made me laugh I used to watch Dan Bongino I I believed in him my brother from Queens I don't know what the hell happened to him.
I mean he is just he's a ghost of himself but still in all we have to figure out where to go from here and people that are saying oh you know kick Trump to the curb he's he's done we're done with him well no we're not we still have three years with him And we still have a year before the midterms.
And now is not the time to give up.
Now is the time to try and figure out.
Well, can we can we see what the play is here?
Can we see where they're heading with this?
Is there a way that we can quietly make our position known?
You know, here's, here's, here's, let me, let me try to communicate this.
Can we, it's like, what what happens in this in this phase?
And we've kind of been through it before, but never like this.
What happens in this phase where MAGA morale is at an all-time low, and much of Trump's base, as you described it, is really ready to throw him overboard.
Where I look at it as trying to correct course or or trying to do like a shock motivational speech.
Like what's the movie?
Some guy, it's like a baseball movie.
I think some guy comes to the mound, the pitcher's like all out of whack, and the guy comes to the mound, he's like screaming at him.
He's like, get your fucking head right.
What the fuck?
And then the pitcher's like, whoa, whoa.
And you're like, boom.
And then he like strikes the guy out.
So it's like it's like, do we shock MAGA back onto the right course?
It's like, do we do we shock Trump back onto the right course?
Or does Trump get resentful?
Does Trump get resentful?
And does Trump think, oh, these people are gonna throw me overboard?
Well, screw them, I'll throw them overboard.
Well, we already feel like we've been thrown overboard.
So then does it become this new game where it's like Trump is trying to like hurt MAGA?
I I I I don't know.
Because I see what's been done with Elon, and I'm just like not a good look, not a good vibe, not a good aura.
So it's like, what happens now?
What happens now that MAGA is losing morale?
What happens now that Trump is being criticized on the right more than ever before?
Does does he get resentful?
Does he get cold?
Or does he like shock back into 2016 Trump and it's like, whoa, okay, wait, oh, all right, I gotta get back on path here.
So it's like, what is gonna be the net effect of all of this happening?
Is it gonna be positive?
Is it gonna be negative?
That's kind of that's kind of my big worry about it.
It's like trying to like, how do you decommission an atom bomb without it blowing you up?
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
Owen?
Yes.
Hi, uh, I'm a fan.
Um, I'm just really bummed out about Trump and where he's going right now.
And I don't know where to turn.
And I'm wondering if you think that the Elon Party is the party that we should be gearing towards, which I don't feel that, but what do you think about that?
I respect your opinion.
Well, it's too early to say.
Um, you know, we're we're stuck with this.
We're stuck with this administration at his as it is for at least the near future.
We'll see if people start getting fired or leaving, and then and then maybe there's some new adjustments or things we can analyze with that.
But as far as we know right now, this is the administration, it's staying this way.
Uh Trump isn't going anywhere, and that's fine.
I still think Trump's a better option than anybody else for president right now.
Um, but you talk about the America Party with Elon Musk.
Normally a third party is a bad idea and and totally ineffectual.
I think I think the recent developments with um MAGA morale going down and just the the power and influence of Elon Musk, I think now a third party could become significant.
It it could actually be more viable than ever.
Uh I think it's too early to say though, right now.
I I think the best thing to look forward to is in the midterms new faces and young people getting involved.
I I'd say for the near future, it's it's getting younger people involved.
If you want to put an age on it, I'd say 40 and under.
The more people 40 and under we get, the better, I believe.
I think that that's where things, I think that that's where things are going.
We have to have we have to have a new young leadership.
We have to have new new new ideas, new blood in there.
It just we have to totally uh we just have to totally up into this table of the geriatrics and the boomers and everybody that's run our country into the ground.
Everybody agrees that's the case.
It's not a it's I'm not attacking boomers, it's just the truth.
I don't think anybody denies it at this point.
And so I think that that's where we look first is to say, okay, what kind of new leadership, what kind of young leadership, what kind of new ideas, new communicators.
Um, can we can we get in there and maybe start to get a serious change in Washington, D.C. Because at this point, hey, look, we'll see.
Trump is in charge of his own legacy, but I think most people have determined that we're not going to get serious change.
We're not going to get serious institutional change.
We're not going to get um draining the swamp and all of this other stuff.
I think most people have kind of given up hope on that.
Trump can still do some great things, and I hope he does, but I don't think we're getting this generational change.
And I don't think we're getting this institutional change, all this change that we wanted.
I don't, I don't think we're getting that.
So now you say, okay, what can we get from younger generations?
What can we get from from new conservatives?
I mean, again, I wouldn't vote for any young Democrats either, but it's like, okay, well, what can we get from them?
What are they going to bring to the table?
You're already seeing a little bit of that.
They're going full communist.
I don't support communists.
I never would vote for a communist.
But it's like at least they see the same problems that we see.
At least they see that we spend a trillion dollars of war on foreign aid, but people will go into debt and get buried from a medical bill.
Like that's just not right.
So I, you know, I think we see the same issues.
We just have a different path of getting there.
So I would say in the near future, it's just looking for younger leadership.
And then, you know, once once we get closer to the presidential election cycle, then you can kind of analyze whether or not the America Party is going to be a thing or or uh viable or not.
Uh, but Musk has a lot of political capital in his hand.
He obviously has a lot of money in his wallet.
So, you know, it can it could seriously shake some things up.
What about Pam Bondi?
Do you think she's going to go?
Uh, she's just a disaster.
I don't know.
Uh the fact that she hasn't been fired yet is um I I mean I just doing a great job.
Yo, she's great.
Oh, we love Pam.
Look at her right there on Fox News again.
500th time on Fox News.
No, no deep state arrests, but another Fox News interview.
Thank you so much, Pam.
You look great.
Wow, what a jab.
Uh yeah, so I don't know.
I I don't get that.
I thought I don't think Trump, I don't think Trump wants to fire anybody yet because I think it's a bad look.
Yep.
So he may just ask somebody to resign or a couple people to resign eventually.
But I don't see how the administration that is stays.
I just don't see it.
It's way too unpopular.
People are losing faith fast.
Approval ratings are dropping fast.
Uh, and so I just don't see how I don't I don't see how everybody remains uh for the entire administration.
I doubt that.
I agree, Ellen.
All right, thank you so much for your time.
Hey, but let me just say this though, before you go, all right.
Don't let politics ruin your life.
All right.
Enjoy life.
Life is beautiful, God is good.
We live in a beautiful country.
There's so much greatness out there.
Don't let politics ruin your life.
And if it gets to that point, then you know what?
Just step away.
Just go to the lake, go to the ocean, go on a mountain, go hang out with your family, friends, whatever, grandkids, whoever it is you got in life.
Enjoy life.
If politics is ever bringing down, and by the way, this is self-this is hurting myself because I want people to tune into my show every day, right?
I want my ratings to be high.
Okay.
Um, but if it's costing you your livelihood, if it's costing you your life, if it's costing you joy and happiness, then you know, maybe it's time to just um just say, hey, this is this is getting getting toxic and poisonous for me.
Take a playoff, take a couple plays off.
We'll still be here for you on the other side, all right.
I agree.
I'm Dr. Marinaro, I'm next.
So I, you know, I'm a fan.
So what you're doing, I went thank you.
I'll always be here for you.
Promise you that.
You want to take some days off and just step away from the news, wouldn't blame you.
I'll be here when you come back.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey there, it's really uh California.
You know, everyone in the cabinet had to pledge some form of allegiance, I understand, to Israel before they could even get in.
And I don't think the only foreign operative in the administration was Mike Waltz.
At a recent APAC convention, the chairman stated that uh that uh they were actually several that they were very proud of that they had groomed, including Radcliffe and Rubio, et cetera.
But uh, but more questions surrounding Susie Wiles and her staff reportedly responsible for excluding DNI Tulsi and her deputy Joe Kent from the meetings.
You know, uh, and by the way, Cash, we actually caught him lying to Congress about Stu Peters.
Do you remember that?
No.
Yeah, Cash was uh grilled by um oh gosh.
One of the Democrats, I forget, and he kept denying that he even knew Stu Peters.
And I saw him on Stu Peters like three or four times.
He was on Stu Peter's show.
Yes.
No, I wasn't aware of that.
Uh I don't know, maybe I was, but I I don't I can't recall it right now.
Yeah.
Well, you know, and and Susie Wiles, I didn't realize this, that uh it came out the other day.
I'm not positive it's true.
I should double check it, but I was told that she uh worked for BB briefly back in 2020 with a campaign until they couldn't afford her anymore.
I'm not familiar with that either.
Uh, I mean, look, I'd have to go look at it all for myself.
I've been on people's shows.
I've been on so many shows, I've done so many interviews.
It's very I I mean, there's people I've forgotten about.
There's interviews I've forgotten about.
So I mean, I don't know.
I might give I might give Patel the benefit of the doubt on that.
I don't know if you could really forget going on Stu Peter's show.
Um, but again, I I just don't have I don't have that knowledge available to really comment on that.
Yeah.
Well, I saw him on it.
I I happened to be watching back in those days.
I I did watch his show and I saw cash.
I saw the clips also.
Well, I think there's definitely turmoil.
I I think there's definitely turmoil in inside of the administration.
I think there has been since day one, quite frankly.
Um, since the signal gate fallout, since the leaks, uh since the Tulsi Gabbard uh getting kind of uh stiff armed out.
Uh so yeah, I I think there's there's definitely turmoil inside of this administration.
I don't think I don't think everybody's on the same page.
I think you're right.
I think you're right.
Anyway, it was an I enjoyed your show this afternoon and tonight, by the way.
We love your show.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
All you gotta do is be America first and be consistent.
That's it.
That's all you gotta do.
It's like it's so hard to ask.
Crazy.
Next caller, what's your name?
you're from?
Bill Chippy from a classified location.
Did you say uh Dominic Michael Trippie?
From a classified location, yes, indeed, I did.
Surging on X right now.
Let me just tell you something.
The last caller, did they say something about Tash Patel appearing on Stu Peters?
That's what the last caller said.
Well, I can confirm that he didn't just appear one, two or three times.
He appeared eight total times.
When when uh when was that?
When when was uh when were these appearances?
Uh in between, I believe 2001 and 2003 or four.
2001.
Yes, excuse me, 2021, I apologize.
Oh, oh, okay.
Yeah, I think probably I I'd say multiple interviews.
You probably know it.
If it was like a one-time deal, then maybe I could forget that.
I could understand that.
I do a bunch of interviews, I don't remember everybody.
But okay.
Eight eight appearances, and they were on a first name basis.
He actually watched what did they talk about?
Uh they talked about all, you know, at this point in sort of the conservative, you know, where the narrative was at at the time, they spoke a lot about just government corruption, election.
Uh I don't think they ever spoke about Epstein in detail, but they certainly spoke about the same exact things regarding government corruption.
So yeah, they were on eight times together, and I mean, very clearly Cash knew who he was, but my main question, Owen, was just uh look, I think that for all intents and purposes, the MAGA movement is essentially considered dead uh based off of the new division over Israel, and also, you know, this Epstein thing and more of just this generalized establishment shifts from Trump.
I don't think that uh we can put the toothpaste back in the tube.
I think a lot of people are walking away.
What's your thoughts?
I think the damage that was done to the MAGA movement after the Iran strikes was significant but repairable.
And that was more that was more of an ideological crossroads and intersection.
Burying the Epstein story and tell us nothing to see here.
I I don't even think we can analyze this crash yet, to be honest.
I think I think it's still too fresh of a scene to really analyze the damage yet, and and maybe we'll get a better idea.
This is this is the type of thing that the damage is so bad it'll probably take days, if not even weeks, to really do a full spectrum analysis of just how bad the damage is from this crash.
Um but yeah, I I if if the Iran crash intersection was repaible, I think it looks like this crash intersection.
I I think I think we're looking at permanent damage.
I think the body shop is probably telling us, hey, this is borderline a total vehicle.
We we may have some creative solutions of how to get this beast back on the road, but definitely looking pretty rough.
Looking more demolition than uh just uh just a light scrape.
But yeah, I also wanted to throw in quickly, you know, this whole Epstein debacle has surely been a bad look for the administration today.
But how about at the end where they threw in, you know, not only another net nyavi meeting, but uh a commitment to more foreign aid to Ukraine, and then you actually discovered this, but it looks like the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers uh revealed in new documents that the U.S. is providing hundreds of millions to Israel in new military aid to build IDF Air Forces or air bases and facilities.
Yeah.
So, you know, we've all been complaining about foreign aid, and we've all been complaining about not putting Americans in America first, and yet we've got two more announcements about foreign aid.
Uh I'd say it's been a pretty bad day.
Yeah, it's a gut blow.
And and and and on the heels of the big beautiful bill struggle session, where it's like we can't even get tax cuts without being held hostage.
We can't even get military funding without being held hostage.
We can't even get deportations without being held hostage.
But oh, Israel needs a hundred million or whatever it is, no problem.
We don't even need a vote.
Oh, Ukraine needs more more military aid, no problem.
We don't even need a vote.
It just tells you Americans don't run our own country, man.
There's no other way to put it.
It's been an ugly revelation.
I mean, I guess you could argue that Trump is doing a good thing by revealing it in such a direct way, but it's clear.
Americans don't run our country.
We do not run our country.
I you could argue who does, but it ain't us.
Well, you've been increasing the velocity lately, man.
You've been going hard.
And I know that uh there's been a pretty positive response from the audience.
Uh keep it up, appreciate you taking the call.
And yeah, let's put America first.
We're fucking tired of this BS.
Man, I tried to uh I I tried to put your X on the screen here, but so I I wasn't gonna say this, but I can't get it on the screen for whatever reason my screen share isn't working again.
I had uh I had almost a near disaster, folks.
We had a we had an almost studio calamity.
Okay.
I've been trying to repair the studio for a couple days now.
We had a near catastrophic studio calamity.
I basically had to rebuild a bunch of stuff.
Uh so far, everything has been good, except now I can't do a screen share.
I'm back to getting the blank screen here.
Um so uh that's a little annoying.
That might be as easy as a plug-in and plug out.
Uh, but I was trying to put your uh X account on the screen, it couldn't do it.
But from having to do, I had to do, folks, I'm telling you, I had to do like a drastic last minute rebuild.
We had some tech issues and then some structural issues.
It was really strange.
Like a ghost came in here and just like started like shoulder checking things.
I don't even know how to explain it.
Uh, but we got everything up and running.
So the only thing I can't get going is the screen share all of a sudden.
It was working at the open.
Uh, so that's just a weird tech bug.
All right, Dominic, good to hear from you.
At D Michael Trippy on X. Give him a follow.
All right.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from.
Hey, Owen, let me just say this.
Hope is not a strategy.
This is out in Pennsylvania in the future, man.
How you doing, man?
Yeah, that's true.
Hope is not a strategy.
It's not.
I just I oh and you know, Owen, look, look, man, I just think you're way too you're way too bullish on this administration, Owen.
And it's just you have to kind of just see things in a holistic standpoint.
You know, it's just it's just not I don't know, brother.
It's just not, it's not, it's not our movement.
It's not our movement, no one, you know, you know, it's just simply not our movement.
Your Albert is getting better.
It's getting better.
I'll give you that.
Well, Owen, look, this is the real Adam from Pennsylvania.
I I keep trying to tell you, Owen, like you just you just don't ever you never listen to me.
And I it just I keep telling you every time I call in.
This is the real album from Pennsylvania.
You got like, it's like you're kind of there's a little Southern drawl, there's a little New York.
You're getting closer.
You're getting closer.
You're almost there, though.
You're keep working at it.
I think I could see a future for you as a as a fake Albert.
Oh, and I gotta I got a question for you, Owen though.
Seriously, though.
Like, where do you see things actually headed in like the future?
You know, I just you know what?
Let me just say it like this.
Let me say it like this.
I just hope that the boomers don't blow up the planet before they hand it over to the younger generations.
That's my hope.
Because I think we could probably recover from a lot of other stuff.
America's gone through financial collapse before.
And we've gone through a lot of things before, and we've come out on the other side.
But if these psychotic freaks blow up the planet, then uh I we don't recover from that.
That's that's generations of recovery.
Not years, not political cycles.
That's generations.
And these freaks, man, these warmongers that just can't seem to figure out how to have peace, and Netanyahu might be the worst of all of them.
They just can't figure it out.
They can't put down the weapons, they can't put down the hate.
And I just feel like they just have they're just hell bent on blowing up the planet before they hand it off.
They're just hell bent on seeing all the weapons that they've made up and seeing all the nukes and just destroying their enemies and just hating their heart, hating their eyes.
That's my only concern is that this this older generation is gonna blow up the planet before they hand it over.
And I just hope they don't.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Nolan, Ohio.
I'm sorry, what was that?
Nolan in Ohio.
Okay, Nolan, go ahead.
Yeah, um, I think my uh all my faith in Trump is pretty much lost at this point, honestly.
Um I voted for him both times, but uh something's real sketchy about that whole Epstein just covering that up is ridiculous in my opinion.
Um I don't really know what else to say other than that.
I mean, Elon Musk comes out and says that he's on the list, and which we all knew, but I mean to what extent.
And uh, you know, the fact that he covered he's the one to cover it up after you know Democrats weren't in power for how many years and they didn't cover it up, but Trump was did it in how many days?
Didn't take him very long.
So I'm oh it was a priority.
I mean, we got we got that.
We got Iran strikes and covering up the Epstein client list before we got any America first policy.
For sure, definitely.
And uh, so I think I'm just my faith in Trump is is done.
Um I hate to say that because I voted for him again, but you know it is the way it is, and that's all I really gotta say on that.
So the PR has been so bad.
Like, they're taking a victory lap.
They're like, oh yeah, Epstein list, nothing to see.
Case closed.
Aren't we great?
Go FBI, go DOJ.
Yay, Bon Gino, yay, Patel, yay, Bondy.
And we're like, what?
How are we taking a victory lap?
This is a gigantic loss.
And you're taking a victory lap.
Like, What?
Yeah.
It's total gaslighting.
Yeah, I it's at this point, it's like, who do you trust?
You know, who do you trust?
Maybe maybe uh DeSantis was the answer, but then again, who knows?
Who do you trust?
That that's my only other option.
I don't trust, I don't trust anybody.
You know what I trust?
I trust myself.
That's it.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you don't know.
Yeah, it's it you can't even trust your own family anymore.
Honestly, you know, you know, they turn on you because you vote for Trump or something like this, and it's just like who do you trust?
Well, you know, I hope that I don't hope that on anybody.
I uh I I love my family.
I don't have any family issues.
I still trust all my family.
Um, but I understand it's not that case for everybody.
So that's that's sad.
That's a tragic development.
I don't have that problem either.
I don't have that problem either, but I am well, actually, there is one family member, I guess I could use that case for, but whatever.
Uh I don't talk to her anyway.
So one more question for you, Alan.
Um, love your show, by the way.
Um, love Alex.
Um, so did you hear about the flood and Japan?
No.
Well, they just had a record the worst flood in history over there.
Okay.
Wow.
Then not and then not a week after they we have like the worst flood, one of the worst floods in Texas ever.
That's a little suspicious.
So I'm thinking maybe some weather wars are going on.
Maybe uh they we hit China because China was hitting somewhere with missiles or nukes or did a deal with someone that would they don't want us to know about, so we hit them with a weather weapon and then they retaliated.
Who knows?
But yeah, that Japan just had a huge, like the worst flood ever on record.
Yeah, there's been some suspicious weather uh all over America and I guess all over the world lately.
Yeah, for sure.
But uh big volcanoes.
That's all I have to say on.
Yeah, thank you for the call.
There was a big volcano uh somewhere recently, too.
Did get got some news.
I want to see if I can bear with me for a second.
All right.
Uh I'm gonna take one more call here, and then I'm gonna see if I can fix something before I sign off.
Uh, but let's take another call.
All right.
Um final caller.
What's your name?
Where you're from.
Kobe, I am currently residing in South Carolina.
All right, what was your name again?
Kobe.
All right, Kobe, go ahead.
Um, so I just wanted to say that uh you kind of introduced me to uh conservative politics.
Uh the Owen Owen Schreuer destroys stupid liberals with facts videos on YouTube are kind of kind of my intro to to politics.
And I just wanted to thank you for that because you know, kind of form my my political views and well, you know, that's awesome.
That's awesome because you know I'm banned from YouTube, so those are just somebody else uploading old videos, making sure people can still get my content on YouTube.
So I'm glad that worked.
Mm-hmm.
Um I'm actually 19, so I'm I'm a younger uh right on you know, political intaker.
That's awesome.
Um, but I just wanted to talk about uh your opinion on because I know another viewer or yeah, another caller brought it up, which was uh um cloud seeding.
It's connection to Vietnam specifically with Operation Popeye.
Well, that was uh that's that's all that's all declassified the weather weapons that they used in uh Vietnam.
So imagine what they have now.
That's that's what I've been saying.
Um specifically, like it's already confirmed that they had they've been using nanotechnology with um cloud seeding.
So just imagine the type of uh military assets that uh you know, dark dark sides of of like the CIA have.
Yeah, for example.
We know they did the whole uh they they they did the whole remake of the Twister movie.
I don't know if you saw it's a decent movie.
It was all right, but the whole concept there is how they can manipulate weather.
So yeah.
I haven't seen the new Twister movie, but now I'm gonna have to watch it.
I remember um I was on TikTok TikTok live last night, and that's where I you know I kind of found out about it for the first time, and it's I didn't look here's an example of it's like here's an example Google information.
You know, pe they they they'll spray these things in the sky, and everybody sees them, the lines in The sky, totally unnatural.
And you say, look, they're cloud seed.
Oh, that's a conspiracy theorist.
It's like, well, what are you talking about?
You can literally see it.
Okay.
Well, I can just talk about in Texas.
Texas weather modification program.
It's an official government entity.
They have a website.
They have public documents.
They show you where they're doing the cloud seating.
They explain the chemicals they're using in the cloud seating.
They do public hearings where you can go ask questions and they talk about the results.
It's all public.
It's all real.
You say, hey, they do cloud seating, you call the conspiracy theorist.
So that day and age is coming to an end.
Everybody knows it's cloud seeding.
So now when do we cross the next threshold, which is okay?
Stop telling me about man-made climate change if you're not going to stop the literal man-made weather engineering.
Because they want to control you.
They want to control the planet.
They want to tax you for carbon because you cause climate change when which is a lie.
When literally the government is there spraying all kinds of chemicals into the atmosphere, literally engaging in climate change.
So the government wants to tax you for climate change while they actually engage in climate change.
So ridiculous, man.
I've been trying, you know, since since you since you went on on air.
It took me like 25 calls to get through.
I'm I I only have one.
I only have one phone line in this studio.
So that's I just got one line.
Yeah.
That's why it's uh that's why it's direct to air.
It's crazy that I'm talking to you because you've done like a like a like a political hero to me for a really long time.
Appreciate that.
That's very cool.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
All right, brother.
I'm not going anywhere.
I've seen your your Twitter all the time.
I'm not have a wonderful night, man.
I'm not going anywhere, man.
Thank you for the call.
That means a lot.
That's awesome.
I love to hear that.
That's a great way to end the show.
I absolutely love that.
Now let's see.
I don't know if you caught that.
There might have been a little glitch in the stream because I was trying to reset my screen share.
Let's see if it worked.
Let's see and hope and pray.
And hey.
You're welcome.
And thank you.
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It's okay.
Wolf and cries of Tampa.
Sing a line in the three.
Forgive me, father, I'm pissed on Your crucifix when I say Justing with the Tyrus Tony Rollin Fell.
They call it the beat and water.
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