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Dec. 5, 2024 - On Brand

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OB #88 - Russell Probably Has COVID

Russell has a 'chest infection', and in between filling time covers the petition drama of 'farmer harmer' Sir Keir Starmer. Support us on Patreon! Buy a magnet handmade by Lauren B!

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	This is Propaganda Live.
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	Extraordinary cultural moment.
	Already iconic.
	Already iconic.
	We love you.
	You're welcome here.
	Where did this guy come from?
	It's like he's been doing it for ages.
	He's very confident.
	Plainly, and this is a matter now of fact and record, I'm right wing.
	I feel that Christ may have had a better vision.
	Is this misinformation or is Vivek Ramaswamy in the lavatory?
	That's a sort of like a poet.
	Is this Eminem?
	Man, if we didn't come together in that stream, I'd say it was just the key.
	Now, these are the kind of conversations, I think, that the legacy media can no longer compete with.
	Win, win, win, win, win, win, win.
	This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one, Russell Brand.
	I'm Al Wirth, and each week I go through an episode of Brand Show with my co-host, Lauren B. That's me!
	I'm Lauren B. And I'm the co-host that gets tied to the back of this truck and dragged into whatever we may encounter.
	I have no idea what we're going into today, but it's usually bad.
	It's almost invariably bad, which is why we do the good thing before the bad thing.
	Lauren, what is your good thing before the bad thing this week?
	Not creative, necessarily.
	Kind of similar as last week in subject matter, but uniquely different and fun.
	An event that we did this past, we did the Holiday Bazaar at Four Hands Brewing that we do every year, and it was really, 10th year, it was really, really fun, and And it was just lovely to see everybody back home and hang out and cut up and have a grand old time.
	And Clownvis was there.
	We had a little chat with Clownvis.
	We vibed on this specific kind of like weird trashy bullshit that St. Louis creates.
	And I was like, we're kind of advertising for each other.
	He's like, oh yeah, totally.
	It was really cool.
	Nice.
	I mean, he's been around for a long time.
	You know, he's a St. Louis staple.
	So, like, you know, we all kind of grew up around the same stuff.
	We got to talk about Hullaboo and Old Venture Store really kind of hit the nail on the head.
	That was a fun conversation.
	And we're going to have another really awesome weekend if you're around the St. Louis area or if you're visiting family, any of that.
	We're going to be at Cherokee Street Print Fair on Saturday, this coming Saturday.
	Date, what's with the 8th?
	I don't know.
	Seventh.
	I didn't write that down.
	That's my bad.
	Yeah.
	So we're going to be at Merlones, which is by STL Style.
	It's close to the corner of like, or like Flowers and Weeds, the corner of Compton and Cherokee streets.
	So if you were around, please come see us.
	It'd be really lovely.
	To see y'all.
	And the snow will probably have melted by then, I hope.
	Because we also got the first snow.
	Yeah, which was like...
	Which was kind of fine to drive through, which was a relief.
	So that's...
	You know, it was really fun, though.
	It's nice.
	And also, you know, me and Mike always have a blast at these events.
	It's an extra bonus to get to see our friends back home.
	Yeah.
	Very nice.
	So, yeah.
	Hi.
	Still stressed out.
	Very...
	Very stressed out little elf, but we're doing it.
	We're surviving.
	And it's cool.
	Yeah.
	So what's your good thing?
	My good thing?
	I had a little bit of a strange week.
	However, my kiddo did come and see me.
	And as it happened, the Christmas lights and everything were being switched on in town.
	So it went down to that, which was nice.
	That's fine!
	Like a nice little Christmassy event.
	There's all the Christmas stalls and everything and the choirs and cover bands doing stuff and there were fireworks and just seeing her little face just light up in sheer awe at the fireworks.
	She's like, Oh my god!
	It was delightful.
	I think it's easy to forget just how excited a four-year-old can get at exploding lights.
	And then you see it and you're like, oh yeah, this is tight.
	This is awesome.
	Cool.
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	You know, we live in such a childless universe over here.
	Not we as in me and Mike, right?
	Yes.
	We're painfully adult.
	And so, yeah, we got to see some, you know, kids and grandkids and stuff.
	And it really kind of brings the fun back to a holiday.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, a little more of the magic.
	A little more of the magic, which is cool, yeah.
	So that was nice, yeah.
	Had some mulled wine, got her some unicorn-like thing that she wanted.
	A great time was had by all.
	It was, yeah, good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	Anyway, we have got a show to do, but first we need to thank a new patron.
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	So, this week, we are in fact going to be dealing with a solo Russell show.
	He did have a couple of guests on, including Michaela Peterson, Jordan Peterson's exclusively meat-eating daughter.
	She was a guest.
	But somehow that conversation devolved into what I can only describe as rapportless therapy for the rich and white.
	And there are things I would rather hear about than how hard life is for Russell and Michaela Peterson.
	Honestly, it was staggeringly boring.
	I'm just like...
	How?
	I'm baffled.
	I'm baffled and annoyed by this continuing to happen.
	But nonetheless, we do have something to discuss.
	Still using boring as a qualifier.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no schadenfreude at all?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I love watching a rich suffer.
	Sure, sure.
	It's not even the suffering, it's more just them whining, and I'm like, oh, you people don't deserve to be able to whine.
	Yeah, it was just, it was, I don't know, a resounding meh of a conversation, basically, which was a shame.
	I was kind of excited for it, but maybe that was the problem.
	Maybe I hyped it up too much in my head.
	Sure.
	Yeah, they don't.
	Like, it's last name Peterson.
	Yep.
	And also, because her last name's Peterson is why anyone gives a shit about what she has to say.
	Yeah, there's a little bit of that.
	And yeah, the Peterson Academy of it all and all of that stuff.
	I'm like, ah, okay.
	Um...
	But anyway, we get to what we will be covering today, which is it's a day of big news, and this is how Russell opens the proceedings.
	Hello there, you awakening wonders.
	Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	And what a day it is to be free.
	I tell you who else is free.
	Trump, Jack Smith drops election case.
	DOJ ends classified docs probe.
	So that's a significant change.
	We'll be talking about that a little later.
	I'll be telling you about that, Trucker Hershey, in ways that it's going to knock your socks off.
	DH Harding, I'm talking to you, all of you in the Rumble stream.
	Are you happy that Dr. Disrespect has joined Rumble about this gaming deal?
	Is that important, guys?
	Remember, I'm not like a gamer, am I? Look at me.
	This is not the look of a gamer, is it?
	Is this the look of a gamer?
	Hello, Awakened Wonders, in the locals chat, like Roger Russell.
	Is that Roger Russell?
	Is that a verb or a noun?
	Let's hope it's just a noun.
	Yeah, so big news that, yep, Jack Smith has dropped the legal cases against Donald Trump, which we'll get to in a bit.
	It doesn't seem like particularly new news to me, but Russell's covering it this last week anyway.
	But also, yeah, this right-wing gamer guy, Dr. Disrespect, has come over to rumble.
	Thrilling times indeed, and what a get this guy is.
	Have you heard of Dr. Disrespect?
	Oh, I'm a huge fan.
	Love Dr. Disrespect.
	I'm so thrilled to be able to access his content on Rumble.com.
	On Rumble, yeah.
	Where I also buy all my dog treats and coffee because I hate saving money or buying things that are worth it.
	But you love freedom, Lauren.
	You love freedom, goddammit.
	And I loathe my own peace of mind, which is why, what, Dr. Destructo?
	What's his fucking- Yeah, Dr. Demento?
	Dr. Disrespect?
	Dr. Disrespect.
	Yeah, so he used to stream on Twitch, but back in 2020, Dr. Disrespect was permanently banned from Twitch for, at the time, undisclosed reasons.
	A long time ago to get banned on Twitch.
	Well, yeah, so these were reasons that were undisclosed until June of this year.
	See, it turns out he was banned from Twitch for sending sexually explicit messages to a minor and continuing to do so after being made aware that this person was a child.
	So, after that, in October 2024, Dr. Disrespect released a line of merchandise with the slogan, Make Gaming Great Again.
	Yeah, savvy pivot.
	And then on November 25th, he announced that he had signed a deal with Rumble that included equity in the company and a role as the head and advisor of its Rumble gaming category.
	He also made a social media post on his X account claiming that he was a victim of cancel culture based on falsehoods.
	Victim of the terms and services I agree to again!
	I'm a victim of the consequences of my own actions.
	Shit.
	Yeah, so Stay Free with Russell Brand has for the last year at least been the sex offender sympathizer show, so it's good to confirm he's on the right platform for it anyway.
	Like, yep, this is all...
	Sticking with the brand so far.
	I'd say a sex offender sympathizer show.
	Yes, yes, yeah.
	One of many.
	One of many on Rumble.
	So now we get to covering some actual news, and specifically Russell wants to talk about Rachel Maddow.
	Let's have a look at Rachel Maddow, though, who used to be a person who defined herself on the basis of integrity and journalism.
	But I would say ever since we saw her participating in that Raytheon-sponsored event, I bet you can find that, Taylor.
	Excuse me, Tyler.
	Like that Rachel Maddow, she appeared at an event, and it was totally sponsored by Lockheed Martin, Boeing, one of those guys.
	If you put Rachel Maddow event sponsored by Military Industrial Complex, you know, that's when I started to think, we can't trust them.
	We cannot trust the legacy media.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Right.
	If we're being consistent in this, we can't trust them.
	They're sponsored by the defense industry, right?
	Beer deal!
	What?
	Pinning that.
	So, it is true, Rachel Maddow did appear and speak at two Lockheed Martin-sponsored events, and one of these is a big smoking gun of Russell's mistrust in her and the legacy media apparently.
	We covered one of them briefly once.
	I don't know if you recall.
	One of them that we covered was a Pride event that was sponsored by Lockheed Martin.
	How dare Rachel Maddow have spoken at that?
	And the other one, that comes up in just a second.
	However, obviously, this is kind of Thin veneer of why Russell's actually mad at Rachel Maddow this week.
	So now to play the actual reason, along with a hastily added-in clip at the end to discredit her.
	Here's Rachel Maddow giving her take on Jay Bacharia becoming NIH director.
	On the heels of Donald Trump picking him to run Medicare and Medicare.
	Right, now I'm not an expert in semiotics.
	Jonathan Pajow is.
	He'll be on the show in a minute.
	But I would say when you have a duck dressed as a doctor, as the logo, you're not about to get some unbiased reporting.
	I would say that the implication is that Jay Bhattacharya is a quack instead of a scientist with integrity who stood up to his opponents at Stanford University that regularly conduct clinical trials funded by a big pharma.
	Of course they do.
	That's how the game works because the game is rigged.
	He is the opposite of a quack.
	He is a scientist and a man of integrity and dignity.
	And if you can't recognize that, it's because it isn't present in you to recognize.
	Medicare and Medicaid in this country.
	We also got news on other health care picks around the CDC. Donald Trump picked a former Republican congressman who for years has crusaded on the false claim that vaccines must be the cause of autism.
	To lead the National Institute of Health, Trump's top candidate endorsed herd immunity.
	As the best way to address the COVID pandemic.
	Just a fancy way of saying let's get everybody sick and see what happens.
	Call the weak.
	Call the elderly.
	Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.
	A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus.
	The virus does not infect them.
	Well, why the fuck does she say that, though?
	It might as well be choreography from the one that I want at the end of Grease.
	You know, like when Rachel Maddow goes, it stops with you.
	I got chills!
	They're multiplying!
	It's probably an adverse event in reaction to that mRNA shot.
	Calling Jay Bhattacharya a quack after you've publicly said that once you get the shot, it stops with you when it was never clinically trialed for transmission.
	Means that the biggest duck out there that's quacking is you.
	Hear that, Rachel Meadow?
	The biggest duck out there that's quacking is you.
	That editing is so tight.
	Also, Russell, you put a bird farting on your own.
	You use a silly bird ripping a fart.
	That's him doing it.
	That's different.
	I'm just saying, glass houses.
	Calm down!
	I completely agree.
	Okay, so a series of things happened here.
	So firstly, Donald Trump just the other day picked Dr. Jay Bhattacharya to be the director of the NIH in the next administration.
	Jay Bhattacharya is an anti-vax, COVID-19 skeptic, advocate for herd immunity and critic of lockdowns during what was a global plague.
	His public health policy on the issue can best be described as, let's fuck around and find out, or the Florida method, you know, where tens of thousands of people died in months, that one.
	Jay Batacharya has been on Russell's show three or four times now, and Russell really likes him.
	So when Rachel Maddow brings the criticisms of Jay Batacharya, Russell takes it personally.
	That's why he's upset.
	Uh, however, Russell knows that addressing her complaints directly is not a good look.
	Like, he can't be seen advocating for the deaths of the elderly and vulnerable that explicitly.
	Um, nor does he want to be tied, like, too directly to, like, the Andrew Wakefield Vaccines Cause Autism crowd.
	So rather than address any of Rachel Maddow's actual complaints directly, Russell immediately plays an edited-in video from March 2021...
	Where Rachel Maddow is claiming that if you get the COVID vaccine, it stops all transmission of COVID-19.
	The aim, of course, being to discredit Rachel Maddow and say, well, you can't trust this lady about anything.
	Look, she got something wrong once.
	Crucially, Rachel Maddow did say the things in that video, albeit without any jaunty music.
	But there is some important context missing.
	So March 2021 is still very much when the vaccine was being rolled out.
	It wasn't available to under-30s yet.
	More specifically, at that exact moment, we were facing a worldwide surge of the Omicron variant of COVID-19.
	And on the day of that broadcast, March 29th, 2021, one of the guests on Rachel Maddow's show was then-director of the CDC, Dr. Rochelle Walensky.
	Within, she expressed optimism and caution, I would say.
	Here is a quote from Dr. Walensky from that very show.
	"I'm so impressed with our ability to vaccinate at a clip of three million vaccinations a day.
	We have 93 million Americans who have gotten their first dose, 51 million who have gotten their second dose, and we have, we can kind of almost see the end.
	We're vaccinating so very fast, our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in the real world data.
	And yet, on the other side, I'm watching the cases tick up.
	I'm watching us have increased numbers of hyper-transmissible variants.
	I'm watching our travel numbers tick up, and the sense is, I have seen what it looks like to anticipate the oncoming surge, and what I really would hate to have happen is to have another oncoming surge just as we're reaching towards getting so many more people vaccinated.
	You know, we're still losing people at a thousand deaths a day, and so I just can't face another surge when there's so much optimism right at our fingertips." That's what she said on the show.
	The information that Dr. Walensky was working with was a CDC study which found the two mRNA vaccines prevented 90% of infections within two weeks after patients received the second of two doses, including asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic infections.
	And following a single dose of either vaccine, the participants' risk of infection dropped by 80%.
	Obviously, we know by now, in 2024, that the vaccines have nowhere near that level of transmission prevention across all variants and forms of COVID-19 and everything else.
	But that was the information that we were working with at that time, on that day, as being reported by the director of the CDC into a camera.
	Accordingly, here's what Rachel Maddow said on that same show.
	We all know already if you get vaccinated, that vaccine will basically prevent you from getting sick with COVID. It will prevent you from going to the hospital with COVID symptoms, prevent you from dying with COVID. Great, good for you.
	But there's a scientific grey area about whether once you're vaccinated you can still get infected.
	It may not be an infection that will give you symptoms, it may not be an infection to send you to the hospital that will kill you, but can you get infected with mild symptoms or no symptoms even if you have been vaccinated?
	That's an important thing to know, right?
	Because even if vaccinated people themselves aren't going to get sick from COVID, the prospect that by getting vaccinated you might protect yourself but you could still potentially get infected, not have symptoms and unknowingly pass it on to other people and be protecting yourself is You would still be a risk to others.
	That prospect has been looming, and that uncertainty has made it woolier and harder to think about how really your life is going to change all that much if you're vaccinated, but you're still potentially a risk to any non-vaccinated person.
	Well, today the CDC reported new data that shows that under real-world conditions, not just in a lab, not just extrapolating from tiny numbers of test subjects, but looking at thousands of frontline health workers and essential workers who have gotten vaccinated to and have since been doing their jobs and living in a real world, Unquote.
	Now again, we know this to not be accurate today.
	And in fact, there was an immediate correction from the CDC to the New York Times, stating, "Dr. Walensky spoke broadly during this interview, it's possible that some people who are fully vaccinated could get COVID-19.
	The evidence isn't clear whether they can spread the virus to others.
	We are continuing to evaluate the evidence." So in short, what we had was an optimistic news anchor reporting on word from an optimistic CDC director within the same show.
	They were wrong.
	It sucks, but it happens.
	And crucially for the record, even though the vaccines were never intended to prevent transmission of COVID-19, they do so anyway to an estimated 40% per household with just a single vaccination.
	And absolutely none of this does anything to change the fact that Jay Bhattacharya is an anti-vaxxer who believes we should have just thrown the vulnerable and the elderly to the fucking wolves during the pandemic.
	So, yeah.
	Well, that also happened.
	Yeah.
	That actually did happen.
	That's the thing.
	His followers are the herd.
	Who Russell is talking to is the herd.
	And they've gotten COVID three, four, five times and can't taste anything anymore.
	It's amazing that that's...
	Why would anybody still say herd immunity if they weren't...
	You have to really construct a mind palace to exist in that is entirely fake to think that herd immunity...
	It isn't chicken pox.
	It isn't a switch that you flip.
	It is obviously not.
	So herd immunity does not work.
	Like, even using the example of the flu, yeah, thousands of people died from the flu every year still before COVID ever came along.
	Why?
	I mean...
	Genuinely, like, I'm glad that CDC members were excited, but I also don't...
	I mean, how much do we blame them for being optimistic about previous...
	And also, like, we have data from previous vaccine rollouts that weren't under Trump and didn't have this kind of, like, supercharged anti-vax pushback that was monetized, lucrative, made Russell a bunch of money, like, made all these lucrative, made Russell a bunch of money, like, made all these guys a bunch of money to push back on this Like, I think that, I mean, you know, you could say, well, they had no idea it would be that the backlash of the vaccine would be this bad.
	So you can't even really, you know, your models are going to be off as far as extrapolating to the larger population.
	But there's also a lot of people that were, like, warning about this since Andrew Wakefield started his little routine.
	So like how much of this could we, you know, could the CDC anticipate this being the like the very like populist vaccine backlash that is motivated and monetized by the algorithms in social media that make these guys a lot could the CDC anticipate this being the like the very like populist So, you know, like it's I wouldn't it's tough.
	I wouldn't have guessed it.
	But when COVID started.
	I kind of went back to history, how I do.
	Y'all know.
	Y'all know how LB do, right?
	And the thing that really mystified me was the flagellants and the plague, right?
	When the black plague got really bad- And kind of spread everywhere.
	There was this religious sect that was walking through towns and flagellating themselves.
	So they were whipping themselves on their own backs in this kind of prostrate, taking on the sins of the world because they think that this is a biblical event.
	Creating open wounds on themselves, essentially.
	And spreading plague.
	Yes.
	And that was always the most baffling and terrifying part of that story for me.
	And as soon as the, even just like anti-mask protests and shit, I was like, oh no!
	That's...
	This is how that happened!
	A portion of humans are so afraid and even just the fear of being confused.
	Not just confusion and then that confusion causes fear and anger and they're like, God's gonna fix it!
	Don't ask us how many are surviving.
	Don't ask about our numbers.
	I'm not going to cite my sources, but God will fix it if I bleed all over the next town.
	One way or the other, God will fix it.
	Literally none of this is unprecedented, unfortunately.
	Genuinely.
	Genuinely.
	And so that's...
	Man.
	Also, the real world, even testing, looked very different in late 2020 and early 2021. But I also...
	In my news sphere, it is baffling because I never heard someone from a position of authority saying what Rachel Maddow said.
	I never heard that.
	I didn't get that version of news.
	So, yeah, it's...
	Hey CDC, if there is another again, if we get a chance for another again, never fucking handle shit like you did.
	Yep.
	Don't ever.
	Let's learn some lessons.
	Maybe that's what we should do.
	You're the science guys.
	We're not doing this again.
	Always and never ain't gonna enter into it.
	People can understand.
	Draw me a diagram.
	People understand.
	Swiss cheese method.
	People understand that.
	There are ways to explain if you trust people.
	Because that's also part of it.
	Not trusting, quote-unquote, the mob, the herd.
	That's evil on any...
	You can do it for evil, or you can accidentally do evil when you're trying to do good.
	So don't do that.
	Just be honest.
	Yes!
	Yeah, yeah.
	I will say as well, Russell is having this entire conversation while still in Florida, and this last week has been very, very sick.
	He's described it as a chest infection.
	Christmas came early, everybody.
	So, hmm.
	Ding dong, the Wicked Witch got COVID! Potentially.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah!
	Welcome to America, bitch!
	I was gonna say, you're in Rhonda Santis' Petri dish now, so...
	Yeah.
	Oh, dear.
	How those amber waves of grain treating you, son.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	So, now Russell...
	He is, yes.
	Now Russell gets to the other Lockheed Martin event featuring Rachel Maddow, and I suspect he should have just left this alone.
	Alright, let me see this.
	MSNBC host Rachel Maddow is an outspoken critic of the bloated defence budget and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party.
	Next month, though, both Raskin and Maddow will headline an event sponsored by defence industry giant Lockheed Martin and Palantir, a $26 billion defence contractor founded and chaired by Peter Thiel, the polarising billionaire and mega-donor to Donald Trump.
	Now, I know Peter Thiel is an investor in Rumble.
	So maybe, man, even I've got skin in the game here.
	And when I saw Peter Thiel on Joe Rogan, I thought he was pretty good.
	But let's see how this plays out.
	The appearances by Raskin and Maddow will come as part of TruCon.
	The conference of the Democratic Party Alliance Truman Center, which runs from blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, describes the conference opportunity to see leaders across government.
	Mark Thompson, a national security analyst at the Project on Government Oversight, says the big question for Raskin and Maddow is whether they hold their tough positions against defense contractors.
	If they don't speak out, Thompson said, it would indicate the sponsors can buy the size of their outspoken critics.
	Now, we know there's been a lot of complexity over at the Intercept.
	Glenn Greenwald left when they started to try and censor him.
	I think in the early part of the pandemic, although I might be wrong about that, Glenn Groomwald is another Rumble creator and we can ask him directly about that.
	But one thing I would say is certain is if you're gonna call Jay Bhattacharya a quack, you better make sure that when you look back, there's not footage of you saying that when you take the vax, it stops with you.
	Then flipping back like Olivia Newton-John confronted with Travolta.
	And there's some stories there, let me tell you.
	But that's just what I think.
	Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
	And yo, Alex and Luke, if you're looking for a short, there's one there.
	And if you're looking for a thumbnail that don't have me in it, get that quack.
	Madow and Jay Bhattacharya, that's your thumbnail title.
	Who's the quack?
	Something like that.
	Try that.
	Bam!
	That's that one done.
	Bam, indeed.
	Okay, so you shouldn't take Rachel Maddow seriously because in 2023 she's spoken at an event sponsored by Peter Thiel, the billionaire defense guy.
	Righto.
	Except, ah, yeah, Peter Thiel is a major investor in Rumble and actually...
	Yeah, his appearance on Rogan was pretty good, wasn't it?
	Ah, shit.
	And of course, so he's just, yeah, just kind of talked himself in circles there.
	And the most important piece of context here is that TrueCon is a conference run by the Truman Project, whose specific aim is to quote...
	Bring together leaders to rethink national security.
	We unite bold thinkers as a community of change, solving challenges and building a strong, safe future.
	In 2005, soon after the re-election of President George W. Bush and two years into the war in Iraq, Rachel Kleinfeld and Matthew Spence founded the Truman National Security Project.
	They understood the need for an organization that brought together people who were interested in US national security and in human rights and rule of law.
	And then in 2013, we launched our sister organization, the Truman Center for National Policy, which is a non-profit research institution.
	The non-partisan Truman Center is devoted to research on our priority areas of climate change, countering disinformation, and improving our national security institutions." So the point of the Truman Project is to advocate for, you know, change in national security and peace-ish, among other things.
	Including, like, Rachel Maddow was also there as a voice of anti-war dissent, specifically, was why Rachel Maddow was at this event.
	And, you know, we can argue, like, the merits and achievements of an organization like the Truman Project and how effective they actually are.
	The broad aim seems to be stuff we largely agree with.
	But the reality is, like, Rachel Maddow was just there to be like, hey, yeah, what sucks?
	And, like, so the full context of this only makes Rachel Maddow look better and Russell look much, much worse.
	Because he's like, hey, Peter Thiel's great.
	You know?
	That's, yeah, alright.
	I mean, what are you, okay.
	Like, we live in a, like, alright, I'm dealing with the reality of, like, we live in a world where I know what anti-war means as an ethos, as a moral choice.
	And that definition is not the commonly accepted definition, kind of by any stretch of the imagination, which disappoints me to the core of my soul.
	But I'm not gonna fix that by bitching about it into this microphone today.
	I think y'all understand.
	Like, listeners, y'all know how I feel.
	And so just saying, like, war sucks.
	War does have to suck all the time.
	But she's still, like...
	I mean, it's the same kind of issue that we had last week.
	It's like, this is a person performing the news on television.
	This is a TV personality.
	It is a very well-informed TV personality who's actually made podcasts I really enjoy, well-researched, also is a journalist and is a reporter.
	But, like, I mean, it sucks that Lockheed Martin's gonna sign on to, like, someone saying war is bad, but that's kind of the nature of content these days.
	And I think Behind the Bastards, honestly, like, handles it great in really cool zone media.
	They're like, yeah, if the ads are fucked up, don't buy anything.
	They're like, if they're...
	Gold ads don't fucking buy the gold.
	Please don't.
	And then they play the ads.
	This is the money that lets us do this.
	And acknowledges that.
	That's very...
	That's kind of...
	That is the, you know, the good place message, the TV show, the good place.
	Like, that's like, well, man, we gotta make compromises in this world of ours.
	And that sucks.
	But I need more than that from Russell.
	Like, this is all very sensational, sensational shit.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	Well, but based on Russell's conception of things like we should be able to write Rachel Maddow off because she appeared at this event that was, you know, propped up by Peter Thiel.
	And it's like, I'm sorry, the platform that you're on is, is, and you, sorry, you were just saying that Peter Thiel seemed like a really good guy on Rogan.
	So, wait, what?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's incredibly incoherent.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you can tell that nobody had properly proofread the material before he was just reading it aloud into the microphone there.
	Tyler had clearly found the article for him.
	Tyler is a new guy, by the way.
	We'll hear a bit more of Tyler in a little bit.
	Tyler is a new guy that's still got the training wheels on, let's put it that way.
	But yeah, maybe a little more prep work.
	Maybe next time.
	And you can avoid little moments like that, Russell.
	He's in a bit of a sing-songy kind of mood.
	I don't know if you noticed.
	He's on his rhyme schemes today.
	And that rears its head properly in the next clip, where we get some CNN anchors debating the lack of information regulation on Twitter compared to news networks.
	And then Russell riffs on that a little bit.
	The n-word, no one's regulating.
	The criticism, no one is regulating how people are treated or the lies.
	How much government regulation of the First Amendment are you for?
	Let me tell you something.
	If I came on here and I just started calling you all kind of names, do you think the bosses would let me continue to do that?
	I mean, it happens to me occasionally.
	I mean, regulate me!
	Why won't you regulate me?
	Well, it doesn't happen to you, but it doesn't happen for me.
	And I know that I wouldn't be able to do that.
	There's a level of professionalism in what we do here, because we are journalists, and we adhere to something, at least morally.
	And there is no moral compass on this thing called ethics.
	There is no moral compass on this thing called X. We need regulation when it comes to life and sex.
	I mean having sex, not what sex is biologically, because in that condition it can be whatever you say that it can be.
	A man can be a woman, a woman can be a man, and you over there on X, you can be whatever I say you can.
	Don't start arguing about indigo, blue, or fuchsia, or violet you see, because whatever color you live in, it's the color That I determine it should be because I work for the system.
	I work for the government.
	I don't even open my eyes without first checking their sentiment on whether I should look around or whether I can feel that sound or whether I should agree with you or what the hell that I should do.
	And when I start my day again, I look right out my window and I say, would this be on CNN or is it just too full of sin though?
	And when I know that Bill Gates pays, then I finally comply.
	And every single night I fall asleep and I ask God, why, why, God, did we kill you in order to replace you with these hideous, insidious Luciferian models?
	And the answer to that is, I'm not sure, but let me know in the comments and chat if you think that there might be a better way through this nightmare.
	Um...
	I think he lost the thread.
	Why did we kill you in order to replace you with Luciferian models?
	You know, there's a part of this show, a little bit, that feels like it's kind of, you know, filling time.
	You know what I mean?
	Apart?
	Apart.
	Now, before we played that clip, I made a little note.
	Mm-hmm.
	About the brain fog of COVID is a real mother...
	Like, long COVID, I think, people understand it better.
	I've been dealing with the delirium of brain fog since I was, like, 12. Because I've been, you know, sick for a long time.
	I know her, oh, very well.
	So, I wrote that down before he ever said the word boo.
	And I knew.
	Because I know, like, yeah, when you're not getting enough oxygen because you have a...
	Chest infection.
	Yeah, it forces you to rely on old bits.
	It brings some stuff up just to be able to get through to your next thought.
	You riff for yourself!
	That's to get to the next thing, you know?
	It's a management tool.
	And listen, y'all have heard me do it.
	I'm like, oh, nope, brain isn't giving me the thing, so what are we saying?
	Oh, back around.
	Okay, yeah.
	I am so intimately familiar with With this.
	Headspace.
	And I'd have sympathy.
	And I do want to state.
	I want to make it very clear.
	I'm going to tap dance on Russell for getting COVID. I do not feel that way about regular folks.
	I genuinely don't.
	This motherfucker had it coming.
	Yes.
	He fucking deserves it.
	And he got it.
	And that's fun.
	And we can all celebrate anything bad because he's a bad person.
	And he has not had comeuppance in any way.
	So it's fucking fine.
	I'm not talking about your grandma.
	I'm talking about Russell.
	Okay?
	So the delirium, truly, is on display.
	That was a lot.
	That was too much.
	Yes, it was.
	That was shower thoughts, not record and put on the internet thoughts.
	That was like mind wander shower time.
	Yeah, just singing in the shower.
	Yeah, yeah, literally.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Instead, he did it into a microphone and then pivoted to what sounded like an Alex Jones impression by the end, basically.
	Edit.
	You're a goddamn professional.
	Put some fucking work in.
	You get paid.
	Yeah.
	Do some goddamn work!
	Tighten it up!
	Okay, so now we move to a UK-based story in which, to those in the know, Russell reveals subtly one of his favored UK pundits.
	Okay, baby.
	Okay, now what's going to happen in the middle of this mental breakdown that we're in the midst of?
	I'm English.
	Did you know that about me?
	I come from England.
	Churchill, Shakespeare, Maggie Thatcher, The Beatles.
	Well, is it under the auspices of woke liberalism and Keir Starmer that the UK is going to go from being one of the furnaces and crucibles of democracy to just the latest colony on the prison planet?
	Keir Starmer, Starmageddon, two-tier Keir, appears to be trying to augment exactly that.
	But the people are turning against him.
	Just months after this WEF stooge erupted into power, apparently after a free and fair election, and I'm sure it was, other than the way that it's systematically designed to ensure that only a certain number of people can ever be elected into positions of power.
	And if anyone radical does ever truly rise up, they...
	Work pretty hard to make sure those people lose their ability to open their bank accounts or communicate openly and they're demonized and are ruined.
	I mean, that country is going to the dogs.
	All of the institutions that we were once proud of, the NHS carved up and sold, the BBC, state propaganda now, all of it requires a radical reckoning.
	Let me know in the comments in the chat if you agree with that.
	Sounds pretty bad over here in Old Blighty.
	You know what he didn't say and I'm mad?
	My new favorite derisive rhyme is Starmer the Farmer Harmer.
	Oh my god!
	Bars!
	Bars!
	We get Democracy Harmer in a minute.
	That's not good.
	It's not as good as the Farmer situation.
	Starmer the Farmer Harmer is one of the...
	I was like, I'm not even...
	Mad at that.
	That's hilarious.
	Someone's a fucking genius.
	Like, come on.
	Oh, great.
	Good, good.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, apparently, the UK is going to be the latest colony in the prison planet, which...
	Yeah, Prison Planet, of course, being Paul Joseph Watson's website and brand, and that is Paul Joseph Watson, formerly of Infowars, who Russell does occasionally reference and mention in passing, so it is definitely a PJ Dubs reference, I'm pretty sure, coming out there.
	He likes a bit of the PJW. And yeah, we're suddenly going to be the latest colony in the prison planet now that Keir Starmer's taken it.
	This wasn't an issue a couple of years ago.
	This wasn't an issue even six months ago.
	But now?
	Well, well.
	Now Russell is complaining about the BBC being state propaganda, which he's only truly been complaining about since they've been reporting on Russell being a shithead.
	Otherwise, he's complaining about the NHS getting carved up and sold.
	And I have to ask, carved up and sold by who, Russell?
	Weirdly, I didn't hear many complaints from him about Boris Johnson or Rishi Sunak, both of which have led governments directly responsible for increased NHS privatisation.
	In fact, Russell barely mentioned Rishi Sunak at all, even in the midst of a general election happening in this country.
	And yet now that Keir Starmer and the Labour Party are in power, all suddenly we have all these critiques of government and a radical reckoning is required.
	Hmm.
	Okay, then.
	He also listed Maggie Thatcher.
	Yes.
	In that little list of, like, important...
	Positives.
	Yes.
	Well, I couldn't tell because, like, I don't think that Russell's, like, into Churchill necessarily.
	Like, I'm sure he'd want to complain about Churchill too, but, like, yeah, it sounded like positives, which intrepid listeners will remember.
	What really, like, stuck with me about Russell was the Emperor's New Clothes documentary where Russell spent an hour...
	Just ripping into Reagan and Thatcher.
	That's what got- I'm like, yeah, yeah, more of that, yeah.
	That's like such a huge heel turn.
	Like that little throwaway is such a heel turn to me.
	Maybe they're just famous.
	Maybe.
	Maybe that's it.
	Maybe it's just icons, yeah.
	But yeah, it feels like positives.
	It feels like a list of things he likes, you know?
	Fucking what?
	Fucking what?
	Yeah.
	So let's look at the actual story and the challenge that Keir Starmer is apparently facing.
	Keir Starmer now is claiming that democracies don't work in accordance with the will of the people, which is literally how democracies are supposed to work, but they work instead on the basis of what he wants.
	What he's, of course, referring to is this petition that's changing the world.
	This has been seen, obviously, by 39 million people.
	It's Elon Musk talking about this new A petition where people are demanding a general election.
	His popularity has dropped to an incredibly low 26 points.
	He's only just gone into power and he is absolutely loathe.
	Mm-hmm.
	So, two and a half million people have signed a petition for there to be another general election in the UK, insisting that Labour have gone back on their word in the five months they've been in office or whatever, right?
	The petition in question provided no evidence supporting this claim, but they didn't have to.
	The right wing and in particular reform MPs like Nigel Farage have been spreading the petition about racist Twitter accounts like Europe invasions that Russell's highlighted here post it to Twitter and then things like that get retweeted by Elon Musk with the words the people of Britain have had enough of a tyrannical police state and then Russell covers it on his show like it's some big deal of a public sentiment.
	In reality, Labour have a massive majority in Parliament.
	But, you know, millions of people still didn't vote for them.
	Of course, that is the system that we have.
	And so, yes, there are millions enough to sign a petition.
	In Labour-held areas, no more than 6% of the local populaces have signed that petition.
	Not enough to make a damn bit of a difference anywhere where it would count.
	And do you know how I know this wouldn't make a fucking difference?
	It's because I have signed petitions to oust David Cameron, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, and Rishi Sunak, and none of them ever came to pass, because it's not how it fucking works, you know?
	Well, but the petition, from what I heard, the reporting around this is like, and I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, somebody, but like, the petition is...
	Is an online petition.
	Yep.
	And it's shared all over X. And then in the comments, they're like, hey, this, like, you have to have, basically, you have to enter a uk address to sign this petition not your ip address on your computer it is part of the form and there are even like there are addresses that are listed in the comments under like in the replies with like use this address use that address like
	so they don't even have to go to google maps and there was research and reporting where a lot of like The IP addresses for a sizable amount of the entrants were from all over the world.
	It's not rigorous.
	Yeah, there are information security concerns around this as to where the petition is actually being signed from and how verifiable that will be given the number of people who have signed it is part of the problem surrounding it.
	I saw one article saying that something like 15,000 people for sure were from outside of the UK.
	There were like four or five people who had signed it from Vatican City, for instance.
	You know, and that kind of thing.
	It's difficult to say concretely at this point because we just don't know.
	But nonetheless, I think it's safe to say- Yeah.
	End of thought.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, but nonetheless, I think it's safe to say over 100,000 British people will have signed it, which is the requirement for it to then be debated in Parliament, which is what will happen.
	This will come up in Parliament as like, "Hey, this has reached this certain amount.
	We need to debate this matter now." And what's going to happen is all of them will look at it and go, "Yes, we're not doing that, because that's not how the system works." Okay, cool, done.
	And we will move along.
	You can vote the next time.
	Yes.
	You can vote the next time.
	That's how democracy works.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Or, like, there are other ways to agitate for that from within the system, like votes of no confidence and that kind of shit, like, that would trigger an earlier general election.
	But, yeah, a petition...
	100,000 is slow, dude.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's not a lot.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's just for it to be debated in Parliament.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, and another big claim that's being made alongside all of this is that Keir Starmer is, you know, doing the worst out of any Prime Minister ever in his first year and that kind of thing.
	He's doing terribly and it's not true.
	During November, Ipsos recorded Sakia holding a net favorability rating of minus 29, while YouGov's research put him on a score of minus 33. This is neither company's lowest ever recorded score for a sitting prime minister.
	In April, Ipsos had Rishi Sunak at a net rating of minus 59, equaling the all-time record low previously set by John Major in 1994. And for YouGov, its polling reached a record during the very brief tenure of Liz Truss, recording a net favorability of minus 70 in the week before she stepped down.
	So I think Liz Truss has set the benchmark for, you know, worst innings as a prime minister.
	Yeah, but the approval rating for produce went through the roof, so...
	This is true.
	This is true.
	Lettuce, very popular for that couple of months.
	So, from here, Russell tries to claim that Keir Starmer is an authoritarian, but again, picks up something he probably should have left very well alone.
	It's known as the Five Eyes Nations.
	It's one of the things that Rachel Maddow is concerned that Trump will break down.
	That's the Anglophonic countries, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, etc.
	All give one another each other's domestic data to bypass laws that prevent governments spying on their domestic population.
	Assange revealed all of this to us, with some credit due to Chelsea Manning and to Edward Snowden.
	Those people were jailed or exiled.
	Now, you want to know what side Keir Starmer is on?
	When asked whether he believed in Westminster, that's our parliament or our Congress or Davos, he without hesitation said Davos.
	This politician is an authoritarian masquerading as a liberal.
	This is the dangerous game that we're playing across the globe when we yield to the haircut politicians like Trudeau or that woman that was in charge of New Zealand for a bit.
	Was she called Jacinda or something?
	I don't know who's running stuff in Australia now, but I know in every nation in the world right now, they're saying we need to protect you.
	So we have to censor you.
	We need to protect you.
	So we have to throw people in jail because of stuff they've said in the Internet.
	You'll be aware that this is happening across my country in part because of the excellent reporting of Winston Marshall out of Mumford and Sons.
	But you may not know that people right now.
	right now are in jail in the UK, whether that's Alison Pearson, who's been investigated by the Essex police for a year old tweet deemed offensive.
	These people are all jailed, yeah?
	That's the specific word I'm using here.
	Lucy Connelly, excuse me, sentenced to 31 months in prison for a social media post, calling for hotels, housing asylum seekers to be sent.
	Like, well, that is actually pretty insane.
	Julie Sweeney received a 15 month prison sentence for posting blow up mosques I mean, these are actually incredibly incendiary comments, but I suppose saying stuff has to be regarded as different from doing stuff.
	I would say this could have done with a bit more chewing before you put that in front of me, my friend.
	And also, perhaps most notably, Tommy Robinson, who's still in prison for contempt of court, but Elon Musk has started posting about that, right?
	And I believe I've got some information to tell you about that now.
	Yeah, let's move on.
	Let's move on quickly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, people keep getting thrown in jail for saying things on the internet, and oh dear, they do seem to be trying to get refugees burned alive, don't they?
	Oh, that's not a great look.
	But saying stuff is different to doing stuff, but also maybe look over this before putting it in front of me next time, yeah?
	That was a little bit of a shabbles.
	Honestly, that's better!
	Than just saying it and being like, yeah, this is...
	Or just...
	I feel like another maybe more adept, more experienced host, shall we say, would have read that and then just glossed over, not actually read the tweet.
	Yes.
	You just name the names.
	Yeah, this person is in jail for a tweet.
	Yes, exactly.
	Don't say what's in the tweet.
	Just say, for a tweet.
	I think we can credit COVID because your brain moves slower when you're...
	It's the brain fog.
	You can read ahead a little bit and then just don't say the thing you definitely shouldn't say because it will ruin your argument.
	Yeah, it kind of destroys the whole- Makes you bad at lying!
	Yeah!
	And here's the thing, I don't blame Tyler, the staffer guy, for putting this in front of Russell.
	It's entirely consistent with the media space that Russell exists in.
	Russell should be saying, hey, incitement to riot and stochastic terrorism is fine, but it's slightly too ugly for Russell's brand, which is what dear old Tyler hadn't realized.
	And so Russell reads all of the awful things these people are trying to incite and goes, oh yeah, that's a bit much, isn't it?
	That's a problem.
	Tyler pranked Ron Burgundy.
	We're back in Ron Burgundy territory.
	Yeah, but on any other alt-right shithead show, that would have fit the bill perfectly.
	You could put that on Crowder, you could put that on anyone, and they would have been like, yes, we should be allowed to say these things.
	But because Russell's slightly softer, you know?
	Well, but even what he was saying before, masquerading as a liberal, not a leftist, a liberal.
	That's wild, right?
	Like, saying masquerading as a liberal, and I know these chunks of talking are difficult to parse, so we gotta go back a little bit.
	Like, Keir Starmer...
	The Farmer Harmer.
	So fun.
	I'm sorry.
	So fun.
	Masquerading as a liberal.
	And then he just described a bunch of like, well, we have to mass incarcerate.
	Well, we have to do war to maintain because we're so important and they're not.
	You just described a regular liberal.
	Not all the like, you know, when he goes further down the line and makes it more extreme and kind of concoct some things.
	Like, sure.
	But like, at the beginning, it's like, yeah, that's, it's just a liberal.
	It's Neoliberal politics.
	Yeah.
	It's not good.
	Yeah.
	What are we doing?
	Yeah.
	So it's not a masquerade.
	Masquerading as a leftist is maybe what you would mean, and then you maybe would have a leg to stand on, but like, no, you're complaining.
	And genuinely, that's kind of what I'm listening for.
	With the brain fog, you go back to the things that you used to rely on, you know?
	Like, these kind of...
	A liberal, you're just complaining about liberal policies, which are bad.
	Agreed.
	Kind of from all sides, really.
	There's a lot of stuff like, yeah, we agree.
	Yeah, seems to be going badly.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	Agreed.
	So, yeah, the other two things from that clip were that when Kier was asked whether, he wasn't asked whether he believes in the government or believes in Davos.
	Of course not.
	It was whether he prefers them.
	And he prefers Davos because it's rich people just doing whatever the shit they want, whereas within Parliament he has to constantly fight to get anything done.
	And I'm like, yeah, that sounds exhausting.
	Also, you shouldn't be saying that into a microphone.
	You're trying to be Prime Minister.
	He was trying to be Prime Minister at this time.
	Oh, I say don't think that.
	That's a bad thought.
	That's a disqualifying thought to me.
	Yeah, it's not great.
	You know, it's definitely not great.
	Like, I understand the perspective, but also don't say that.
	And, you know, work on that.
	That thought, you should have a dark night of the soul.
	Yes, yeah, exactly.
	Not say it into a fucking microphone.
	Have a real moment to sit with yourself as to like...
	Why do I prefer...
	That's the shit that pisses me the fuck off!
	That's the shit I don't like!
	Whenever Russell is like, listen, Russell, you have a complaint.
	I have a complaint that I don't have to think very hard about.
	Listen, maybe it'd be easy.
	Like, you already know, you know this shit.
	Maybe you don't.
	Listen, brain fog hits everybody differently.
	Potentially, you know this stuff, right?
	Like, that's, that's, come on.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and the other thing was that Winston Marshall from Mumford& Sons, formerly of Mumford& Sons, he was the banjo player, is now an alt-right shithead and has been for a few years.
	That's why he left the band in, I want to say 2021?
	He came out as a right dickhead, basically.
	The signs were there back in 2018 when he was broadly supportive of Jordan Peterson, and he's gone full reactionary.
	He's got a podcast and all that stuff these days.
	So yeah.
	That happens.
	You know why?
	These rich white guys align with rich white guys.
	Johnny Ramone yelled, like, God bless George Bush.
	Like, no.
	Guys, these are not your thought leaders.
	No, Mumford and Sons come from rich, white, Christian wealth, specifically.
	They sure do.
	They sure do.
	Knew that the whole time.
	Yep.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	So, yeah, that's what Country Winston is up to these days, anyway.
	I'm just being a terrible piece of shit.
	Okay, so we're going to get to Tommy Robinson in a second.
	But first, with the Keir Starmer issue, Russell wants to play some Australian coverage of this petition issue.
	But firstly, let's have a look at Keir Starmer and a story also from Legacy Media, so be careful on how much you trust it when it comes to these calls for a new election because people are so dissatisfied.
	I want to go to the UK. We've been talking here about farmers speaking out against these inheritance taxes or basically death taxes.
	They say it could threaten food security and the sector.
	But Michael, what's interesting here, there's been a petition.
	Under UK parliamentary rules, if 100,000 people sign a petition, that petition has to be debated on the floor of the Commons.
	This is a petition that says you must call a general election and it's got 2.5 million signatures.
	I don't think we've ever seen a government start so poorly, have we?
	Never.
	I think charging older people on the edge of winter more for their heating is a sign of a Labor Party that's gone mad and lost its touch with reality.
	Now, this petition will result in nothing.
	They've got a huge majority of over 400. It doesn't force them to an election, but it does get them a debate.
	And it confronts us all, Peter, with the issue of...
	Are terms of Parliament in the UK five years, in Victoria's case four years, a good thing, or would it be better to go back to the old system of more flexible terms?
	Yeah, I'm not in love with fixed terms.
	I'm happy with a four-year term.
	I think three's too short and five's too long, but I don't like fixed.
	Coach Ugata, what's interesting here, I mean, he's up against Kevin Badenock, and at the dispatch box, she's pretty strong.
	She is.
	He hasn't come across, on top of the problem with the policies, has And everything else, his communication as well isn't exactly inspirational.
	And I think coming up against her, that's another deficit for him.
	And his approval rating has dropped 43 points from the high with which he came in.
	So he's swimming upstream.
	But for now, I think he's dodging the bullet a little bit with the petition not being enough to call an election.
	But he's not trending in the right direction.
	Yeah, if this perspective sounds ill-informed, it's because it is.
	You want to talk about somebody saying inappropriately wild shit?
	Kemi Badenoch takes the cake, friend!
	Kemi Badenoch, yeah.
	She's a reactionary, bigoted piece of shit, but she happens to be a black woman, and so because she's leading the Tories now, they think that they're going to be able to really hit the Labour Party on culture war issues for the next couple of years.
	Current predictions are that Kemi Badenok is going to be a sacrificial pawn upon the altar and won't be lasting long, by the way.
	She's pretty aggro pawn.
	Like, that's man oh man.
	Yes, yes.
	Very aggro.
	Very aggro.
	She's like, I'm the only black woman that's worth a damn and the rest of you can be thrown on a pyre for that heating bill.
	Like, that's crazy.
	Crazy.
	Lady's got some views, I'm gonna say that!
	Yikes!
	So the coverage of this petition and whatever is such thin gruel that Russell is having to go to the Rupert Murdoch-owned Sky News Australia to...
	Oh!
	Oh, to find the opinions of a couple of Australians and an American to back up his opinions on the matter.
	His logo, the Stay Free logo is covering, like, all I could see was Sky News.
	I can't see the rest of the logo.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, that's Rupert Murdoch that Russell is happily just...
	Well, I mean, that sounds absurd.
	Like, that's...
	All right.
	Yes, yes.
	Yeah, and apparently none of them are crazy about fixed terms, which is fucking wild.
	I've never heard that said out loud on the news before.
	Yeah, maybe we should do away with fixed terms.
	You know, three is too short, five is too long, like they have in the UK. I like four.
	She 100% made her argument for four years and then said she doesn't want fixed terms.
	That on its face is like, whoa, you can't listen to...
	Disqualified.
	Yeah.
	Like, you want to talk about disqualifying a lady on the news?
	Oh, I'm sorry, your brain doesn't work right.
	And you still say shit and you don't think to yourself, wow, I just contradicted myself in two sentences.
	Maybe I shouldn't do that.
	Like, that's, all right, well, now we know.
	Now we know how you feel.
	Yes.
	Yes, indeed.
	Okay, so now we get back to Tommy Robinson.
	I'll just make a point to my viewers.
	We will be back on air from about the 13th of January.
	Certainly Peter Credlin will in the show.
	People are concerned that there are custodial sentences being dealt out for stuff that people said on the internet.
	People are concerned that legislation is being created that enables people to jail political opponents, create laws that are useful to the powerful.
	If what they cared about most of all was the welfare and well-being of ordinary people, surely they'd be interested to see that there is so much disdain and disgust rising up across the nation.
	And perhaps they'd be willing to have an honest, open conversation and whisper it, referendum on what most people think about immigration.
	You know, I might not agree with people's views on migration into the UK or your country, but I do agree with the principle of free speech.
	And I do agree with the principle of democracy.
	So I don't need to do any more thinking on those subjects.
	All I have to do is hand it over to those institutions and hope that those institutions are reliable.
	Pulling the strings is talking about Tommy Robinson.
	Now some of you are saying why is the EDL now the JDL? I don't know about that.
	I don't think Russell does know about that, because otherwise he wouldn't say that question out loud.
	That was someone in his audience asking why the English Defence League is now the Jewish Defence League.
	That's what someone was asking.
	So essentially asking why the old kind of anti-Islam, pro-English nationalism group would have any kind of links or ties or connections to the Jewish Defense League, which is a nationalist terrorist group promoting violence, basically.
	Oh, so ADL means I'm never there.
	Okay, yeah.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	Anti-Defamation League here.
	Yeah, ADL's a different thing.
	EDL. Yeah, the English Defence League is a very...
	It's what Britain First was before Tommy Robinson kind of came to the fore.
	They're very much kind of interlinked.
	The rise of Britain First is connected to kind of the fall of the EDL. Basically, one kind of morphed into the other.
	Gotcha.
	And then Britain First has kind of fallen apart.
	But now they are JDL? That's actually a thing?
	Or someone was just being sassy?
	No, this is someone being sassy.
	And what I would say to us...
	I get it now!
	Yikes again!
	Yikes again!
	Another...
	Tick in the yikes column!
	Yep, COVID brain is coming in strong.
	What I would say to answer the actual question is white people who hate Arabs and want to inflict violence upon them will usually find a reason to do so and a group to do it with.
	And sometimes that is the JDL. And so if you can't do it with the EDL, but the JDL are going to inflict some violence on brown people, well, any port in a storm, apparently.
	Wait.
	Okay, so Britain First is a separate group from JDL? Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	All related.
	Is it British Judaism stuff?
	Is that what that is?
	So the JDL are actually kind of predominantly American, the Jewish Defense League.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	But they have some hooks over here as well.
	With the DLs and whatnot, I'm just trying to make sense, trying to parse it all.
	There's a lot of defending things going on.
	It's a lot.
	It's a lot.
	Well, I mean, I'm just like, I know histories of these things, and I'm trying to figure out where, you know, what fits where.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, the JDL have been around since, I want to say, either the 60s or the 80s.
	They've been around a while anyway.
	But the idea is basically the EDL, the English Defence League, and...
	And Britain First have kind of been on the outs in the last kind of five or six years in a formal kind of sense, and haven't been kind of organizing as actively that much.
	And so basically, if there's going to be a group that's going to be committing violence towards some brown people, then those people are going to lean towards whatever group is doing that.
	Sure.
	I'm just trying to figure out what the actual...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was asking something different, but it's different.
	Yeah, right.
	Okay.
	That also means that's not what we're talking about right now is what I was clarifying.
	Yes, yes.
	Noted?
	Moving on.
	Keep it bumping.
	Let's do it.
	So now Russell gets to his fundamental principles.
	I do know that Elon Musk has been posting a lot, and let's go on to X now, about Tommy Robinson's case.
	Tommy Robinson's a British activist, journalist and nationalist who, no question, when it comes to the subject of Islam, has some pretty, I would say...
	Entrenched views that become perhaps understandable if you watch him on Jordan Peterson with him and Tony Peterson talking about his particular conditions of his biography, origin and upbringing.
	They're certainly not views that I myself endorse because I really truly believe in the possibility of working people to find ways of aligning and allying against real power and real corruption.
	But as I've said to you before, above all else, and perhaps not above all else, but Certainly these are principles that I would be willing to die for.
	I believe in free speech and I believe in people's right to self-determination and governance.
	And when you say that, that means you're going to hear stuff you don't agree with and you're going to end up with systems that don't behave in accordance with your will.
	No.
	No.
	No, Russell.
	You wouldn't die for them.
	You can't even push back for them.
	So, no.
	You don't get to say that, oh, well, theoretically, guys, I would die for these values.
	But in practice, I can't even really complain.
	And I'm not going to push back.
	That's a lot less than dying, Russell.
	Yeah.
	Well, what gets me is that Russell just got finished saying, like, you know, the UK system is corrupt and that Keir Starmer should be, you know, there should be another general election, you know, and Keir Starmer should be maybe stepping down, and now he's up here like, well, when it comes to racists and xenophobes, sometimes the people I disagree with are gonna have the power and the system won't work the way I'd like it to.
	Oh, well, sucks to suck, I guess.
	You know?
	I mean, that's true.
	It doesn't work for me right now.
	It doesn't make me feel good.
	So I'm not gonna try.
	Boo!
	I'm a rich white guy.
	It doesn't actually matter to me.
	Except for this time I got COVID in Florida.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah.
	Well, Tommy Robinson, he basically made the argument that you can grandfather in vehement racism and that's fine.
	Like, oh, well, his personal story, which I know all about Tommy Robinson, get fucked!
	No, no.
	I promise you I know more about Tommy Robinson than Russell does, and I can tell you right now that no.
	Also, there is no excuse.
	There's no excuse for racism.
	You can really not like one guy that did something bad to you.
	That's fine.
	But you cannot extrapolate that into...
	Justifying a vehement, racist agenda of agitation and straight-up, like, dangerous lying.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	And, like, especially, like, the thing is, you can watch Tommy Robinson being interviewed by Jordan and Tammy Peterson.
	You can watch that interview.
	I don't recommend it.
	You can, but, like, you need to be sat there with, like, a fucking fact-checker next to you the entire time because it's just fucking five lies a second coming out from that guy.
	Of course.
	Like, he makes, like, within the first two minutes, he makes the claim of there being, I don't know, something like 40 or 50 mosques or something in Luton, the town where he's from.
	I looked it up.
	No, there's like 25. Like, there's like half the amount that he said.
	And there's like over a hundred and something churches.
	And I'm like, well...
	Yeah, so who gives a shit?
	You don't have to go!
	Like, to even call, like, the concentration of mosques is not a problem!
	Unless everyone in that little room is like, oh, it's a problem!
	You're the fucking problem!
	Like, literally, there is no...
	Like, you can have bad, negative, triggering experiences.
	You can have a personal aversion.
	Listen...
	My lovely dog, I knew from the time that we got him, so there was another dog where my dog was hanging out and we got our dog.
	And he has a little bent ear where his ear was not supposed to be bent.
	And there was a big white dog in the backyard that my partner saw whenever we picked up that dog.
	And my dog was terrified of big white dogs anytime we saw one on a walk.
	Okay?
	Mm-hmm.
	That is reasonable because we can't talk to our dogs about racism.
	Colorism in this instance, right?
	Sure.
	Any amount of Of a bad experience.
	You can have personal feelings you need to deal with.
	Extrapolating that to a group just by dint of being a part of that group is bigotry.
	There is no excuse.
	There's no rationalization.
	That was fucking crazy to hear from Russell.
	Be like, well, I heard him be really mad about Muslims.
	So I get how much he hates Muslims.
	He's done it for a long time, so I feel like that's okay.
	You don't grandfather that in!
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Don't expect that on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	But that's a status quo warrior fucking thing.
	It's like, well, he's too mad to reason with, so we just gotta let him do it.
	Yes, yeah.
	Fuck you.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Fuck that.
	Oh, dear.
	Okay, so now we finally get to the whole Trump-Jack Smith issue, but not before a little bit more chiding of Tyler.
	And let's see if there's anything on here that will help me get through the next little bit of time.
	Oh yeah, Trump charges dropped.
	What was our...
	Remember I asked you yesterday to tell me what we found out and titled around?
	Tell me that at the top of the show.
	Put it on this bit of paper.
	Has that landed this time, my darling man?
	Good.
	So now tell me what have we found out and titled around in case we didn't do it.
	Okay, but always tell me if you would.
	Let's organise our conversations in that manner.
	Oh dear.
	Yeah, what happened there was that Russell very nearly didn't cover the main subject of the show.
	You know, they'd already pre-selected the thumbnail things, and so the darling boy gets chewed out in front of all of us.
	But Russell's not mine.
	That's just laziness.
	Hey, Russell.
	Yeah.
	Your name is on the fucking show.
	If it's not together before you start recording, that's on you, bud.
	That's on you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I used to work in kitchens when I was younger, and the thing that was drummed into me was piss-poor preparation leads to piss-poor performance.
	So do the prep, and you'll be fine.
	And yeah, that's held true for everything else I've done in life as well.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Silly.
	Okay, so yeah, let's actually hear the news about Jack Smith dropping the charges against Trump and what Russell has to say about it.
	Okay, let's have a look at this.
	Donald Trump, all charges dropped against Trump.
	Two years ago, Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed Jack Smith as special counsel to oversee two criminal investigations into former President Trump.
	Well today, three weeks after Trump's election victory, Smith is dropping both cases.
	ABC's Karen Travers reports from Washington.
	Special Counsel Jack Smith today filed motions to drop all charges against President-elect Donald Trump.
	It involves his alleged effort to overturn his 2020 election defeat and promoting false claims of a stolen election in the lead-up to the January 6th attack.
	Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States and obstruction.
	The attack on our nation's capital on January 6th, 2021, was an unprecedented assault on the seat of American democracy.
	It's described in the indictment.
	It was fueled by lies.
	In his filing, Smith said the merits of the prosecution's case has not changed, but the circumstances have.
	Smith saying as a result of the election and DOJ guidelines against prosecuting a sitting president, the case will not go forward.
	More than 1,000 people have been found guilty or pled guilty to participating in the January 6th attack.
	Trump has called them patriots and promised to pardon some of them if he won re-election.
	Smith also removing Trump as a defendant in the classified documents case.
	Trump was accused of mishandling government records, including holding on to classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago and Bedminster, New Jersey properties.
	The judge in the classified documents case, Eileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, dismissed the case this summer on the grounds that Smith was unlawfully appointed as special counsel.
	Smith is now asking to dismiss the appeal of the charges against Trump.
	But allow the appeal to continue for Trump's two co-defendants.
	Trump said during the campaign he would fire Smith on his first day back in the White House.
	Smith was expected to resign before Trump takes office in January.
	The president-elect's office issued a statement this afternoon calling the decision by the DOJ a major victory for the rule of law.
	Karen Travers, ABC News, Washington.
	It sure isn't.
	I'm smarter than the average mayor.
	They still talk like that on the news.
	Yeah, um, weirdly, Russell then just moves on.
	Um, he has nothing actually to say about this.
	Russell has nothing to say about the fact that legitimate charges against a former president are being dropped because he's going to be president again.
	Russell, the anti-establishment voice, the anti-corruption voice, has nothing to say about the fact that the leader of the country he is currently in is seemingly immune from prosecution.
	No, but if you listen to the thing that he just said about Tommy Robinson, well, he's too loud and mean for consequences, so we should just let him be.
	Well, he has been racist a really long time, you know?
	Who else has?
	We know exactly what his position is.
	Like, well, I don't want to upset the apple cart.
	This other white guy is really insistent that he doesn't want to be prosecuted.
	I think we should just let him go.
	And so I do have to ask myself the five fucking words.
	If that was Joe Biden, what would Russell's response have been?
	Like, if that was reversed and it was Joe...
	He would be going fucking berserk right now.
	He would be running stories about this day and night.
	Like, oh, this isn't okay.
	This is just an authoritarian leader and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	But no, Trump, eh, just gonna play the clip and move on.
	Oh, it's incredibly hypocritical.
	He would absolutely make a meal out of it.
	He absolutely would.
	Oh, God.
	Yep.
	Well, but he didn't even, but I think that, like, I mean, he doesn't even say anything.
	He just let that play and then didn't address it.
	Yep.
	Just, oh, they still talk like this on the news and then move along.
	That's what he did.
	Okay, Russell.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Honestly, I'm not fucking thrilled.
	Like, I'm not, I don't think it's great.
	I mean, maybe like, listen, an argument can be made that Jack Smith made the right decision.
	I don't agree with that argument.
	No, no, no, no.
	But it is certainly congruous with how the democratic party who has been blowing up my fucking phone, our phones, our emails talking about how this is the election of this is the most dire election that's ever happened.
	It is so crucial and important.
	And they are at, as soon as the results were in, they changed their tune so fast, it made my head spin.
	They ain't acting like that.
	Oh, at all.
	So yeah, I also think they're liars.
	They are liars who are sensationalizing for their own ends to fundraise.
	Because that's what we heard.
	And then in a day, magically, all that fucking changed.
	Yep.
	All of a sudden happy to just fall over and let it happen.
	It's incredibly fucked up and everyone should be really fucking angry about this.
	Russell should be one of them.
	Like, Russell should be, like, he's stopped there for years being like, I'm anti-establishment.
	And now he's like, well, the establishment gets away with it.
	That's fine.
	I like this guy.
	But Russell also doesn't think that Trump is the establishment.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because he has a baby brain.
	Yes, and COVID baby brain at the moment.
	Oh dear, but yes, we should all be fucking furious.
	Anyway, the show comes to a close immediately after this, because Russell's been scrounging around, and so he scrounges around some more, and it ends less with a bang and more with a whimper.
	I think it's an advert.
	I don't know.
	It might not be.
	Scrolling through X. A chilling video shows the consequences of using the phone at the wheel.
	BBC. Evil propaganda.
	Aftermath of Israeli strikes on Beirut.
	Church continues on Tuesday for missing hiker.
	Tim Pool reposting Chenk.
	I'm going to make my boldest prediction yet.
	I think at least half of Trump's base are actual populists.
	And they will challenge him if he goes awry.
	No one on the left will believe me.
	They think everyone in MAGA is in a cult and will follow Trump.
	Mmm, that's a good point.
	What do you guys think?
	Let me know.
	Let me know, guys.
	Candace Owens there reposting something.
	Picture of a Russian defence system being reposted by BBC. Mental man.
	President-elect Donald Trump may impact investors in these eight market sectors.
	Mmm.
	It's weird, isn't it, when you look at this stuff, when you look at propaganda news.
	This is all propaganda.
	Piers Morgan.
	That's what he's doing, by the way.
	Listeners.
	He's just scrolling through his screen and it's on the screen right now.
	Yep, yep, and he just read out a thing from Piers Morgan.
	He legit spent the last ten minutes of his show scrolling through Twitter and talking bollocks about the people in his feed.
	So this is not a live stream, this is a show?
	Like, this is the edited show that he put out?
	Not a live stream?
	Well, he does live stream the show.
	Right, okay.
	Generally, they'll have all of the assets and everything prepared beforehand, and they'll know what's coming, and they'll do it that way.
	Seemed a bit less prepared today.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	Well, sure, COVID sucks.
	Yeah, sure.
	Who knows who else has COVID in their room?
	Yeah, this is true.
	If Gareth's down and the rest of the team are down, he might be in serious trouble.
	Everybody might be struggling.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Potentially.
	So yeah, he just spends 10 minutes scrolling through his Twitter feed.
	And yeah, shocking news to everyone, by the way, that Cenk of the Young Turks is pivoting massively to the right.
	Who saw it coming?
	You know, It's like, well, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So yeah.
	Who cares?
	Pretty much.
	Pretty much.
	And yeah, Piers Morgan talking about Trump as well.
	The only interesting thing about it for me is like seeing who Russell actually sees information from because he only seems to actually get any of his news from X. That's the only place he actually pays attention to.
	And so like the brief moments where I'm like, who are you getting your information from?
	It's a dire look into the alt-right media.
	Oh, that's the answer.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's pretty much just Elon Musk and those kinds of affiliates.
	We also know that Trump gets all of his news from Fox News and then would call into Fox News to talk about the news he saw on Fox News.
	And that's, buckle up, we're getting it again.
	We are going to get it again.
	How pissed is Tucker?
	Oh, how cranky...
	It's talking that he doesn't get to talk to his little buddy anymore.
	Yeah.
	Update your shots, folks!
	COVID's bad!
	Yes!
	Yeah, I've got mine due on the...
	on next Monday, I think the 9th.
	I think I've got my booster shots coming in.
	Yeah, get them all in, everybody.
	Well, great.
	Please be careful for, like, holiday travel is starting and, you know, like, COVID is not gone.
	As we've just witnessed in no uncertain terms!
	I mean, that's like, you know, this is...
	It's tough.
	It's tough out there.
	You know, wear masks when you can, where you can.
	It genuinely sucks that we're going to have to get back into this, like, we need to mask up again in, you know, spaces where it's required.
	And you can feel it.
	Like, you can...
	It is palpable here that, like...
	You will be targeted if someone wants to target you and take their MAGA ideas or their anti-vax ideas out on you.
	They absolutely will.
	It's really shitty.
	Yeah, you get less of it kind of overtly over here because we just generally have that more kind of the politeness kind of doctrine around here that you just don't say anything, even if you do disagree with someone.
	But yeah, there has been like, I've had to mask up a couple of times, like my mom's immunocompromised and that kind of thing.
	And, like, there has been kind of this more like, oh, well, it's not the pandemic anymore.
	Why are people wearing masks?
	I'm like, oh, you'll find out when you get COVID in a couple of weeks.
	Because it's really, like, it's really doing the rounds in the UK as well.
	Well, and it's, I mean, it's...
	You know, I think we do.
	All right.
	Regardless of all the stuff that people like Russell and people like him say, we do know so much more.
	And vaccines do make a massive difference.
	And thinking about like what...
	The air, genuinely, like the air circulation in a space makes a big difference.
	There's a lot of businesses here that took it upon themselves as soon as this all went down, you know, as soon as COVID started, they updated their filtration systems and they're like moving air around, being outside, going from inside.
	If there's a lot of airflow from inside to outside, it dissipates.
	All that kind of like the threat is And it's not perfect, but there are a lot of the Swiss cheese mitigation systems are already in place.
	Don't take that for granted, especially with travel.
	You, adult listening to me, you do not have an excuse to be surprised that the numbers are going to go up again around holiday travel.
	They already have started.
	It's going to happen again.
	We don't get to be surprised by this shit anymore.
	I'm too old.
	I have no patience for the surprise of this problem that we should expect and plan for.
	And part of that is my own experience with like, baby, I got a plan months before you ever even hear a goddamn word out of my mouth or you see an item on a shelf and that's my business.
	Doesn't mean it ain't happening.
	We all need to do it.
	We all need to plan.
	We all need to prepare.
	And we should have been already.
	And if not, get on it.
	And they got better masks these days.
	The whole reason I even made masks in 2020 was because there was a shortage.
	There isn't anymore.
	We've got it.
	And it sucks to put more of that plastic in the world.
	But that's what we should be using these masks.
	Like, medical devices should be the things that we prioritize.
	Yeah.
	Like, that's a legislation issue.
	Anyway.
	All right.
	Whatever.
	Yeah, man.
	Yeah.
	This was...
	Okay.
	Man.
	Russell seems like he's in a bad spot.
	That's...
	Pretty much.
	Pretty much.
	I mean, yeah, I don't think he's doing much better now.
	Like, this Monday this week, he just aired clips from Break Bread as the main show.
	So I think he's not feeling great, would be my assessment.
	Yeah!
	I bet!
	Yeah!
	He didn't even just get...
	He didn't get British COVID. He got fucking Florida ass COVID. Florida COVID. He got Gator COVID. Yeah.
	Yeah, he might be rethinking some choices about it now.
	I doubt it.
	I doubt it as well.
	Oh dear, oh dear.
	But yeah, everyone take that as a sign to get your shots updated, mask up, all that good stuff, and be safe, please.
	And hey guys, Dr. Disrespect is on Rumble now.
	I know we're all really excited.
	I still don't know anything about the first one.
	I don't know anything, but I bet it's funny that I'm making a fake plug.
	Aren't we all thrilled that Dr. Disrespect is on Rumble?
	Dr. Disrespect, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Dr. Demento is back on Rumble.
	That's crazy.
	Oh dear.
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