This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media assassination episode 1618.
This is no agenda.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
6.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody agrees that perhaps the dumbest and maybe the worst show in the history of television is The Masked Singer.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
In the morning!
In the morning to you!
In the morning to everybody!
Why are you watching The Masked Singer?
I mean... I'm not.
That's what I said.
It's the worst show in the history of television.
Oh, okay.
Just wanted to make sure.
Why does anybody watch it?
I don't know.
It's bad.
Oh, so they watch Jenny McCarthy go, Oh my God!
Which is all she does on the show.
Is she on that show?
Yeah, she's one of the judges.
Oh, man.
You know, that could be me.
That could be my career.
Yeah, and you'd fit right in.
Oh my god!
That's all she does.
Can you imagine, you know, getting old, you know, VJ, there's only people over 45 know who you are, and that's all you got is you're gonna be a judge on some shows.
That would probably be better than what we're getting here.
Especially after this fantastic promotion we did for the Golden Circle or whatever it was.
It was actually, there was something interesting.
You know, Netflix published its numbers They're viewing and, I guess, hours viewed numbers?
Yeah, they do the seconds, billions of seconds viewed.
They have this crazy, the way their system is, it's just nuts.
But they can nail it to the, obviously, the minute.
So, James Cridland, who does Pod News, He does a daily show and he's a numbers guy because, of course, the podcast industrial complex is all about numbers.
Don't worry!
It's all going up!
More ads are coming!
It's going to be great!
And so he put together this calculator because we publish our stats on this thing called OP3s.
That's how we know that we have, you know, eight, nine hundred thousand people a month who listen to the show.
And so he took that and he cross-referenced it with the Netflix numbers.
As it turns out, this show is bigger than 93% of any shows on Netflix.
I wouldn't be surprised.
And Netflix, on average, people pay 53 cents an hour for the content.
If you break it all down into what people are watching and how much they pay per month.
Man, if only!
If only.
We do have some people that do pay that, or contribute that to the show, but it's only 1%, 2% of the total.
If only.
If only everybody did it, it would be great.
Netflix has a model that their goal was to make it even partially work.
Everybody else is struggling with streaming.
We're struggling with streaming.
Yeah.
I think the reason that everyone's struggling with streaming is Netflix got in.
They perfected the model.
They did a good job of taking their customer base and turning it into stream watchers.
Remember, they had DVDs.
Remember?
They were sending DVDs around.
That was cool.
Yeah, it was great.
And the other people are Johnny-come-latelys.
So what are you going to do?
It's one of those few examples in tech, and I would call this tech, in tech where the first, the guy who got in first dominates.
Generally speaking, it's like the second or third guy who perfects things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I was the first in podcasting and no one has perfected it, second or third.
No, you actually have.
You're the first to get it because you did the podcasting.
The podcasting 2.0 is something that should get you a Nobel Peace Prize.
So just since you brought that up, Last night they did the first Value for Value concert and people were using the modern apps and they were streaming Value for Value and I think the artist Ainsley Costello made like $3,000.
Value for Value works.
It really does.
Well, how much would she normally make?
Zero!
What are you talking about?
Zero!
First of all, you can't even do a live streaming concert.
What, is Spotify's going to pay you for that?
No.
No.
Tonight they do it again.
Tonight they're live from Minneapolis.
It's exciting stuff.
It's exciting.
Anyway, this whole, what's popping right now that everyone in my neck of the woods, I said it, neck of the woods, is talking about is these migrants.
And let's just call them asylum seekers, illegal immigrants.
And so now it seems that on social media, people have discovered that they're being flown to other countries, other cities in the country, which we knew this has been going on for years.
Yeah, but now all of a sudden... Those midnight flights have been documented.
People have taken their cameras out and put it on YouTube and shown these flights being filled up with people.
Yeah, but now it's commercial flights.
They're buying seats from Delta and American.
By the way, business class seats.
And people are getting bumped from the flights because there's so many migrants who are getting this premium boarding, premium seating.
I mean, you can have as many asylum seekers and migrants as you want, illegal immigrants in America, but when you start bumping people off of flights, people lose their crap.
This is where Americans draw the line.
Hey, you want to be here illegally?
Whatever.
But you are not taking my seat!
So this is mainly coming from Arizona.
Large, large groups of people.
Tickets typically purchased within 72 hours of departure because whoever buys the tickets needs a name to purchase tickets, making the fares very high.
So these are very profitable for the airlines.
This is why they don't get bounced.
They also did not have to meet normal TSA.
This is costing the American taxpayer.
Oh brother.
And so we got a, we got a note from, this is a good note, boots on the ground.
Might as well just get right into it.
I got a couple clips too.
Telling you this in anonymity, I'm an officer with TSA, San Diego International Airport.
My background with TSA is with the Behavior Detection Program and the Insider Threat Teams.
So this is not just some rando who's yelling at you about your bottled water.
Yeah, this is one of those guys who's looking for you twitching at the wrong point.
Exactly.
Hey, look at that curry guy, man.
He's twitching all over the place.
Pull him over!
I have 10 years of experience with observing and conversing with the traveling public and fought off the vaccine mandate, so I feel like I have earned my stripes to speak on this with some authority.
Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir.
Good for him.
There are hundreds, or her, there are hundreds of illegals slash asylum seekers passing through our airport daily for well over a year now, and recently I've been able to piece together who exactly is assisting with these people.
Christian Family Services and Jewish Family Services have volunteers that guide large groups from the bus drop-off through TSA screening right onto their departing flights.
Two young women that I assume were volunteers caught my eye in the spring and through the summer because of their flirtatious nature with the young male TSOs.
...of the time they spent inside the sterile area without any asylum seekers in their care.
I approached one of the girls that was speaking to a Jewish Family Services volunteer and was able to conclude these two young women are paid, contracted employees with an NGO, non-governmental organization, called IEM.
IEM.com.
Based on what I read of this group, they are well entrenched with assisting the government through many avenues of disaster relief, even the COVID vaccine rollout.
These guys do it all.
I mean, they are a military contractor.
They're big.
Big business.
IEM.com.
This is how it's working.
Asylers seek a bangler.
I trust you will come to your own conclusions.
I think this IAM group, along with many others, take custody of these people when they cross the border.
Keep control of them with housing all the way through, even with even judicial proceedings to support court dates have been confirmed to be well into 2027 and beyond.
This is how it's working.
So all this busing stuff from Texas.
Yeah, sure.
And in fact, Texas is tired of the buses themselves since Chicago has been impounding buses.
Eh, we'll just rent the plane.
It was a private plane that was chartered by Texas Department of Emergency Management that brought 100 migrants here to Chicago Tuesday night.
According to the city, it landed at O'Hare Airport around 7.15.
And on social media, Texas Governor Greg Abbott's administration posted about the plane saying, Because Mayor Johnson is failing to live up to a city's welcoming city ordinance by targeting migrant buses from Texas, we are expanding our operation to include flights to Chicago, like the Biden administration has been doing across the country.
Until President Biden steps up and does his job to secure the border, Texas will continue taking historic action to help our local partners respond to the Biden-made crisis.
Governor Abbott says his administration has bussed nearly 83,000 migrants to sanctuary cities.
Chicago has received more than 24,000 so far.
And during an interview with WTTW, Mayor Brandon Johnson said the governor of Texas is determined to create chaos.
And we also know that the Latino caucus will join others out here downtown later on this morning to demand more help from the federal government, I should say, in handling the migrant crisis here in Chicago.
So everyone's blaming Abbott, of course, and what he did was obviously what we should just call it performative with this Show Me Your Papers bill that he signed.
The Republican governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, signed a sweeping new law today that lets local police arrest migrants who cross the border illegally.
It also lets state judges order them to leave the country.
Opponents say it directly violates federal authority over immigration.
Texas Republicans say the Biden administration isn't doing enough to stop illegal immigration.
So we got Rob, our constitutional lawyer, who immediately is all over this.
So we have a good breakdown of what the law is.
It's actually three bills, it's not just one.
Which is worth breaking down.
Three state law bills.
Three bills.
The first allows Texas law enforcement officers to arrest suspected illegals and judges to deport them summarily.
Critics, of course, calling this the show me your papers law.
The second bill funds the wall, along with stepped up patrols in places like Houston.
And the third bill ups the penalty for being a coyote or running a stash house from two years imprisonment to 10.
And this law was, as you could predict, immediately challenged in court.
The ACLU filed a suit representing Los Americans Immigrant Advocacy Center, American Gateways, and El Paso County.
El Paso, who have been overrun with illegal immigration.
Like, we're suing you!
We love it!
I don't know what's wrong with El Paso.
But of course, they've asked for an injunction.
Injunction precluding Texas from enforcing the law, a declaratory judgment decreeing that the law is unconstitutional, which it probably is.
Plaintiffs have stated they will seek a temporary injunction to tide them over while the case proceeds.
According to our constitutional lawyer, there will probably be a stay and so this will have to play out They need to file a cert petition with the Supreme Court, so this will go to the Supreme Court.
In the meantime, this is going to be the big distraction, so we don't pay attention to Israel, don't pay attention to Hunter Biden, don't pay attention to Joe Biden falling down.
I mean, it's really in competition with the anti-Trump.
He fell down again?
You wouldn't know, because everyone's either talking about Trump or this.
And I have two border clips.
Okay, and then I have a couple of things and a conclusion here.
I have Texas border update.
Texas border update.
Oh, it's one of our favorites.
Oops, there we go.
This is N.T.D.
Biden's deliberate inaction.
...has left Texas to fend for itself.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott on Monday signed a law giving local officials the ability to arrest and deport illegal immigrants.
Multiple civil rights groups are now challenging it, saying Texas unlawfully keeps the federal government from enforcing immigration laws.
This guy sounds a bit like Patrick Bette David, don't you think?
That's funny.
If you get to see this guy, he's a very German looking guy.
He actually doesn't look quite like his voice.
That's interesting.
...from enforcing immigration laws and that it illegally bars immigrants from applying for asylum.
Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador says Mexico is also preparing to challenge the law.
I want to tell our fellow countrymen and migrants we will be defending them.
Texas' governor acts that way because he wants to be the vice president candidate for the Republican Party in the United States.
And with these measures, he wants to gain popularity.
Footage from Eagle Pass, Texas on Wednesday showed thousands of immigrants trying to enter the Lone Star State.
The new law is set to take effect in March.
In other Texas related news, a razor wire fence is allowed to stay up at the state southern border, for now.
A federal appeals court on Tuesday temporarily blocked the Biden administration from removing the fence.
I will point out that it is supposed to take place March 5th, which is the beginning, the date, exact date of the Republican primaries.
So, coincidence?
Probably not.
It's all political.
It's all performative.
And I'm going to read a bill to you, which I think explains what's really going on here.
Back in October, the state sued the Biden administration for cutting almost 30 miles of concertina wire.
Lastly, illegal immigration now affects international trade.
Business groups and train operators are pressing the government to reopen rail bridges in Eagle Pass and El Paso.
Border authorities closed them on Monday because they're understaffed.
The U.S.
Chamber of Commerce says shutting down rail traffic through Eagle Pass and El Paso will inflict significant economic harm.
Oh yeah, it's going to be economic harm, it's going to be horrible.
And I have a couple of short clips here from Democrat representatives who are, I mean, Very interesting how they, I think the American public in general is against this.
Everyone's sick of it.
Everybody, even in the so-called sanctuary cities, they see it.
You can't hide it anymore.
If people haven't been kicked out of their hotels for their wedding parties because migrants, And by the way, the language is asylum seekers, migrants.
There's very little illegal immigrants.
There's none of that being said.
This is Jasmine Crockett.
I'm very concerned because the Republicans have never gotten immigration right.
That's just the fact of it.
There's not very much that the Republicans get right in general.
And so to basically say that issues of national security as it relates to how we're going going to take care of our allies should be tied to this mangled immigration process is absolutely insane.
I mean, when you look at somebody like Greg Abbott, my governor, and his solution, his solution is to basically say, hey, we're going to kill people that are trying to come in.
Like, that's not a solution.
Like, the Republicans don't have the solutions.
They want to continue to defund the aid that is going, not the aid, but they're continuing to defund border security.
Well, I mean, who's going to sign up for this job and you're not paying worth anything?
Okay, she's dumb, alright?
She represents the great state of Texas.
Boy, she is dumb.
She's dumb, she's dumb.
Here's Jayapal, who...
It was very concerned that, you know, because there's work going on.
Now remember, the whole idea is no aid for Ukraine, no aid for Israel.
Aid.
Let's just call it aid.
No bombs for Israel, no bombs for Ukraine until we fix the border!
Well, Joe better not do that!
I have a bad question to get from the left if he does agree to these changes.
He's going to there's going to be a lot.
We have to put together a coalition that is the same coalition we delivered in 2020 for him to win the White House, for us to win the Senate and for us to take back the House.
And that coalition involves a lot of young voters.
It involves a lot of immigrant voters.
It involves a lot of folks of color.
What?
Immigrant voters.
Yes.
Yeah!
What?
Oh, she said the quiet part out loud there, didn't she?
We need immigrant voters.
Almost as stupid as Debbie Dingle.
What a great name.
I like Dingle.
Debbie Dingle.
I mean, she wants slaves!
What is your response when he says that the border is broken under President Biden?
The border's been broken.
It was broken under Donald Trump as well.
Our immigration reform, we need comprehensive immigration reform for Let me also say, you've got small businesses clamoring for people.
We've got caregiving, which is in desperate shape, and we need to bring some of these people.
We don't want illegals.
We don't want other people coming in.
We don't want drugs coming across our border.
We need a balanced, comprehensive immigration policy.
Okay, first of all, whenever someone says comprehensive immigration reform, they're full of crap.
Because all you need to do is just follow the law as it is.
But she literally sits there and says, we need caregivers!
We need Marias to take care of our kids!
Come on!
I mean, gardeners.
Gardeners!
Yes, please, more slaves!
Who's going to clean our toilets?
Yeah!
As one of the ladies on The View said.
Do we still have that clip?
I wonder.
I don't know.
I think it was Sonny Hostin who said that.
I wonder if we have that.
I can't find it offhand.
Anyway, now we have... Oh, this is another gem.
Becca Balance?
Balance?
Balance?
Well, obviously.
It's obvious what's going on here.
So we've got this situation here where Speaker Johnson is not somebody who has seriousness of purpose.
He doesn't understand the stakes.
When you pull out 40,000 feet, you see someone that is essentially doing Putin's bidding.
Oh, he's doing Putin's work.
Okay.
What?
Yes, he's doing Putin's bidding.
Yes, yes.
And she had a good term in here.
So we've got a situation here where Speaker Johnson is not somebody who has seriousness of purpose.
He doesn't have seriousness of purpose.
Whatever that means.
It's DC gobbledygook.
And then, of course, another Democrat representative from the great state of Texas, Joaquin Castro.
I want to speak quickly to the Democrats in the Senate and others who are considering supporting this proposal.
If you do so, you will be surrendering to right-wing racism.
Ah, there it is.
And more than that, you will be enabling it.
Yes, racism.
Oh, enabling it even.
Yes, racism.
Now, this is... Now, I do have an issue myself.
With the idea of show me your papers, because then this has happened to me in Texas.
We discussed it many years ago when I drove from California, when I fled California to Texas.
Within 100 miles of the border, there's checkpoints.
Show me your papers.
It's not cool.
I don't like the idea.
I think that's a bad way to solve this.
Obviously, The federal government needs to not allow people in anymore at these non-approved crossings.
It just has to stop.
The laws are on the books.
Just stop, stop, stop.
I don't understand.
The show me your papers thing obviously didn't work.
Well, no, because, well, it works to some degree, but, you know, it was still, I mean, the catch and release is the policy.
That's what's changed.
It's the policy, not the law.
The law is, no, you can't come in.
And you just can't if you don't have the right paperwork.
And by the way, you also need all kinds of vaccinations to immigrate to, or at least proof of vaccinations to immigrate to America.
But I know this process.
But this racism part, ah, that's the one that's catching fire.
I don't watch sports ball TV, but Stephen A. Smith, I believe he's an ESPN guy?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Well, of course ESPN is where you go to hear about politics.
Greg Abbott, you ever heard of him?
He's the governor for the state of Texas.
On Monday, that governor, Governor Abbott, signed a bill into law that will allow the police to arrest migrants who enter the U.S.
illegally.
This law, which takes effect in March, Allows any Texas law enforcement officer to arrest people who are suspected of entering the country illegally.
That's what we're going to do to our Latino brothers and sisters?
It's racist!
Somebody needs to say it, so I'm gonna say it!
It's a racist ass thing to do!
Suspicion?
Suspect!
Suspected of entering the country illegally.
How can you be suspected of entering the country illegally?
So you're chilling in downtown Dallas.
Or Houston.
You're hanging out with a bunch of folks.
You're speaking Spanish instead of English.
Your clothes might not be a Tom Ford suit or something.
You might not be wearing a Jordan sweatsuit.
You might look a little poor and impoverished, a bit haggardy or haphazard.
Those things might, you might not look the part.
That's a suspicion.
They can literally label that as suspicion to justify arresting you, not questioning you, not asking for an ID.
They literally can arrest you.
What a disgrace.
And to think, I love this state from the standpoint that it's got no state income taxes, you got beautiful cities like Dallas and Houston and Austin, Texas.
I'm looking forward to being in a city like that someday and then I see a governor like this doing this kind of nonsense.
It's a damn disgrace.
It really, really is.
Calm down, calm down.
It's also quite racist to think... Let's make one thing clear, since you don't watch sportsball.
He's a representative of the Walt Disney Company.
Well that's BSPN.
BSPN is owned by Disney.
So thank you Disney for giving us politics in the middle of what we care about, which is sportsball.
He's racist because it's Chinese, it's Africans, it's not just brown people coming across the border, okay?
But, you know, do what you want.
Those days are over.
It is kind of over.
So, now I figured, all of a sudden it hit me, I'm like, so of course this bill is going to be challenged, of course that won't happen.
I can see where they can do the stash houses, yeah, that'll probably stay okay.
But this is all politics and both parties are against you and me, against Americans.
Chuck Schumer is like, yeah, we got to do this.
Yeah, we got to figure this one out.
Yep.
The minute you get Lindsey Graham, who kicked this off saying, no, I'm not going to until we get some border stuff, we got to get the border.
That was a that was a tip off that something is up.
So When I see Chuck Schumer saying, yeah, we got to do this.
So now instead of just saying, adhere to the policy we already have, stop people from coming in.
No, there's a bill.
There's a bill.
And I don't know if this is going to be the final bill, but this is what Chuck Schumer has been working on.
I'm going to read from some papers that he has filed.
He's even put this in previous legislation.
And this is what they really want.
This is why both parties want this somehow magically.
This will prohibit the Secretary of Homeland Security from processing applications for registered provisional immigrant status, this is the RPI, until the Secretary submitted to Congress the notice of commencement of implementation of the Comprehensive Southern Border Security Strategy and the Southern Border Fencing Strategy.
So here we go.
The Comprehensive Southern Border Security Strategy includes the minimum technological requirements specified.
So they're going to do all kinds of... Get ready... Yeah, there's little robots and stuff.
Yeah, get ready for the... Money, money, money, money, money, money.
The Southern Border Fencing Strategy will include no fewer than 700 miles of pedestrian fencing.
Hello, wall.
Thanks, Democrats, for fighting Trump on that.
But here's the one.
A mandatory employment verification system to be used by all employers to prevent unauthorized workers from retaining U.S.
employment.
They've been trying this for years.
This is your universal ID.
This is, everyone has to have one.
You can't work without your papers, without your, show me your official ID!
This is what they want, both parties.
In addition, the mandatory exit data system.
Another thing they've been wanting for decades.
We want to know when you come in.
We want to know when you leave.
We want to stop you from leaving, you slaves.
These people are horrible.
In addition to that, 38,405 new, trained, full-time, active duty U.S.
Border Patrol agents.
Probably for more processing.
They don't care.
They want Slaves to clean your toilet.
They want slaves to look after your kids, to look after their own kids.
They want slaves to come in and vote, Democrat preferably, but Republicans will take it.
They want you to have papers.
They are just making a big deal, big show, and they're abusing these people who have been told, come on to America, it's great!
And they've done the same thing in Europe.
This thing, this is a global issue.
And by the way, it's called the Migration Replacement Strategy.
It was a United Nations strategy.
You can find the document in the show notes.
Implemented in 2000.
Written up.
Everyone's like, okay, this is great.
Replacing people in Western countries with people from other countries.
This has always been the idea, always been the strategy, and the EU, oh yeah, oh, we're all against it, yeah, this is no good, but now, ah, now we have a new deal for the European Union.
The content of this compromise today paves the way for a really reinforcement of the controls at the borders, which means that even families comprising children could be put into closed centers in order for their asylum requests to be processed.
So far, so good.
The other thing is there will now be an EU-wide asylum procedure, putting aside all the national asylum laws which are in effect today.
The other thing is also that there will be, and that is the real stepping stone of this agreement, there will be a common approach on the solidarity in case of a massive influx of migrants.
Go ahead.
Solidarity just in case, just in case there's a massive influx of migrants.
On the off chance it might happen...
They're planning this.
On solidarity, in case of a massive influx of migrants, there will be compulsory solidarity, meaning that EU member states, even those which have no access to an external border of the EU, will have either to taking asylum seekers or to provide with will have either to taking asylum seekers or to provide with a financial contribution, financial agreement is being reached within this
So you will take migrants, every single country in the EU, doesn't matter when they come in, we are the solidarity now, or you got to pay.
We have to pay.
This is crazy.
The whole world has gone nuts.
And that is a main point here.
The other point being, obviously, this is a trade-in, a trade-off.
The other point being that the external borders are going to be heavily reinforced.
So, it's, it's, come on in everybody.
Come on over.
You'll be able to find lots of countries where you will be placed.
This is the elites.
They don't care.
They're not doing this in Asia by any means.
No.
Even though they could because China's having a population issue with the aging public.
So what do they hope to accomplish?
What is the end game here?
Just to replace all whiteys with everything under the sun and enslave them because the The Texas Hill Country folk won't do what they're told?
We go back to the former New York banker.
Every single person they can add, they can print more money.
They want to print more money, they want universal basic income, and yes, they want obedient workers.
Obedient workers!
Of course.
Keep the cost down of everything.
Keep people obedient.
Keep them in limbo for as long as possible.
And we beat China.
We've already castrated our children.
We've scared everybody with climate change.
We have to keep growing, so we might as well get someone in.
The United Nations Office of Immigration has a safe mobility initiative, and they will help you.
And you can sign right up on the website.
We have Cubans, Haitians, Venezuelans in Colombia.
If you want to travel safely and lawfully to the United States, we have a program for that.
Nicaraguan, Venezuelan nationals in Costa Rica, if you got there before June 12th, we can help you move safely into the United States.
Costa Rica, then we have Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, Venezuelans, Colombians in Ecuador on or before October 18th, 2023.
No problem, we'll bring you in.
Guatemalan nationals, if you're in Guatemala, we can help you travel safely and lawfully to the United States.
These are our own people against us.
Yeah, and I know it sounds counterintuitive, but they just see us all as pawns, peons.
You know, as numbers.
So yes, that's the idea.
Well, that's an enlightening report.
It's uplifting for Christmas spirit.
Your Christmas spirit must be flying high.
So, along with this, of course, we have to... My Christmas spirit is very high.
Along with this comes, you know, the obvious.
We have to make everything about the far right.
This whole thing is very irksome.
The far right.
Everything is the far right.
And let me see, the News Agents.
So this was the report in the UK, the News Agents.
I like this podcast.
These are very well-established, very well-known mainstream journalists and they do their own podcasts, very popular.
What's the name of it?
The News Agents.
We've talked about it before.
The News Agents.
It's a huge, very popular podcast.
And they're the people who have interviewed all the heads of state and do kind of like a newsroom type thing.
So now here it is.
The News Agents investigate the rise of the far right!
The News Agents Investigates.
It might come as no surprise, but the far right have won the elections in Italy.
The Prime Minister of Hungary, Viktor Orban, has secured a fourth consecutive landslide election victory.
Europe's nationalist wave has arrived in Spain.
Marine Le Pen has perhaps never been as close to power, the latest polls indicate.
This year's poll has been shaken up by a surge in popularity of the Eurosceptic and far-right Sweden Democrat movement.
Something is stirring across Europe.
Slowly, then quickly.
A tectonic change to our politics.
To where the balance of our politics sits.
From the Netherlands, to Italy, to France, to Germany, to Ireland, the UK, Hungary, beyond.
Radical elements of the right Even far-right, once consigned to the fringes of political life, are growing.
The number in parliaments, in power, are not just formal power, the sort of power you get from winning elections, though they're winning plenty of those, it's the power to shape how we think, the power to channel the online world, the power to move the centre of political debate to the point where they don't even seem extreme anymore, that they've become normal or mainstream when they're neither.
On this episode of the News Agents Investigates, the rise of the far right, the collapse of the center, why liberal democracy is under siege.
Is under siege.
How about this?
How about... How is this a good podcast?
It sounds like a melodramatic piece of crap.
Well, it depends on who's listening to it.
Yeah.
But this is the establishment.
That's what you're hearing.
The establishment is incensed.
They're outraged.
We can't believe the far right is, you know, like normal people who are like, hey, we're sick of this crap.
We're sick of it.
We're sick of it.
We don't want it anymore.
We're sick of all of you.
And then you get the fringe far right.
Yeah.
And they'll fight it every single step of the way, of course.
This just, it's, it's...
You know, these, what was once called useful idiots during the communist era, they're still out there doing the bidding of people that, who's best interest, they're not in the best interest of the people actually doing these sorts of reporting.
In other words, you're selling yourself out for all practical purposes with some of this bullcrap.
And of course, when it comes to immigration, we can't leave out former President Trump Because remember, he is Hitler.
Because it worked so well in 2015 calling him Hitler.
That really stopped people from voting for him.
So let's do it again.
Now we do have a little twist.
Because President Trump is now explaining.
He's explaining what he's meant by poisoning of the blood.
He's changed it to poison the country.
But I mean, come on people!
Former President Trump continues to use fascist language.
Fascist!
That dehumanizes immigrants.
Here's what he said last night in Iowa.
We have no idea who any of them are.
They come from Africa.
They come from Asia.
They come from South America.
And it's true.
They're destroying the blood of our country.
That's what they're doing.
They're destroying our country.
They don't like it when I said that.
And I never read Mein Kampf.
They said, oh, Hitler said that, in a much different way.
No, they're coming from all over the world, people all over the world, we have no idea.
They could be healthy, they could be very unhealthy, they could bring in disease that's gonna catch on in our country, but they do bring in crime.
But they have them coming from all over the world.
And they're destroying the blood of our country, they're destroying the fabric of our country.
And we're going to have to get him out.
Oh, he's a fascist!
Fascist language!
Which, according to Jake Tapper, he's doing something completely different.
What else works so well throughout his entire presidency?
What was another thing that the media did?
Russia?
Was it Russia?
I think it was Russia.
Let's see if we can- I think Russia's involved.
Yeah, I think- Hello, I'm Jake Tapper in Washington, where the state of our union is frankly stunned watching the leading Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump, quote one of our nation's foremost adversaries, Vladimir Putin, as a sort of character witness while on the stump in New Hampshire last night.
Oh no!
Vladimir Putin of Russia says that Biden's, and this is a quote, politically motivated persecution of his political rival is very good for Russia because it shows the rottenness of the American political system, which cannot pretend to teach others about democracy.
One might think such a point need not be made, but What?
What?
What, Jake Tapper?
They say, okay, he's right, but you don't have to say it out loud.
Wow.
One might think such a point need not be made, but Vladimir Putin, a former KGB official with blood on his hands, regularly sides with American He's a war criminal!
...adversaries, both rhetorically and with arms, and who right now has at least two Americans, Evan Grishkovich and Paul Whelan, unjustly detained.
Vladimir Putin is not a credible source of information about American democracy, much less American jurisprudence.
Vladimir Putin seeks to undermine the United States and its allies, whether in Europe or Asia or the Middle East.
Despite this, or maybe by now because of it, I can no longer tell, Mr. Trump stands poised to do very well in the Republican Iowa caucuses on January 15th in less than a month.
He has only expanded his lead.
Oh, unless, unless he gets kicked off of the ballot in Colorado!
This, this really makes us look good internationally.
This is good.
This thing.
People in Colorado, are you not a little mad about this?
They're a bunch of Democrats.
Colorado's ridiculously blue.
I have a mini cut of the Colorado, some people talking heads discussing this.
This is not a crazy thing for a democracy to do.
It's very much like the reasoning of the conservative legal community.
The conservatives on the Supreme Court, who usually go on and on and on about states' rights, are hypocrites.
He was an enemy of the Constitution.
Simply a plain reading of the U.S.
Constitution.
This is not partisan.
This is about applying historic principles.
What do you say to the Republican candidate's argument that the voters should have the say and not the courts?
Why are you standing with Confederates who betrayed this country?
Oh, that's great.
Okay, I got a couple clips here.
This is MSNBC.
Follow-up from the historic Colorado Supreme Court ruling continues this morning.
One day after the panel of judges there ruled that Donald Trump was disqualified from the state's 2024 primary ballot because of his role in the January 6 attack on the Capitol, President Biden made his first remarks about the decision.
In Milwaukee yesterday, the president initially refused to comment, but he did say this when asked if Trump supported an insurrection.
Well, I think it's certainly self-evident.
Self-evident?
You saw it all.
Now, whether the 14th Amendment applies, I'll let the court make that decision.
But he certainly supported an insurrection.
And no question about it.
No question?
None.
Zero.
And, uh, he seems to be doubling down on about everything.
Anyway, I gotta go do this.
Anyway, I gotta go see if I can walk up the steps.
Uh, from our constitutional lawyer.
Uh, technical analysis, which is always handy to have so you can look smart at the wall or cooler.
The Colorado Supreme Court has stayed its decision, i.e.
put it on ice, because it knows Trump will seek certiorari, which I think is something from Star Trek.
The stay lasts through January 4th, 2024, but it automatically extends if Trump files a cert petition, which he has said he will do, Once the petition is on file, it remains in place until the Supreme Court of the US either denies the cert or accepts the case and rules on the merits.
Our constitutional lawyer says, I think Trump is likely to persuade four justices to grant cert.
But who knows, if he does, then the stay will remain in place as long as the case remains pending.
Meanwhile, the Colorado Secretary of State must keep Trump on the primary ballot.
The primary happens March 5th, 2024, so if Trump can run the clock out for two and a half months, and if the Supreme Court of the U.S.
grants the cert, which seems likely, he can render the whole thing moot.
The Colorado Supreme Court justices likely foresaw this and just wanted to get their thoughts on paper.
So again, performative, nothing to worry about, nothing to see here.
But of course we have New York trying to do this, a couple other states.
These people are stupid.
Do they think that this will not only make people more for Trump?
They don't understand the mechanism.
They certainly don't.
But this is kind of the arrogance of the elites in our country.
We know how to do the legal system.
People in America are sick and tired of the legal system.
They're sick and tired of the IRS.
They're sick and tired of being badgered.
Sick and tired of everything.
You're just going to get this guy back in office.
And trust me, the Republicans are going to cheat like crazy this election.
They're going to cheat, cheat, cheat like everyone else does.
Well, everybody, both sides are going to cheat.
Of course they cheat.
And who's the better cheater?
I still think it's the Democrats.
I think they're more competent at it.
They have more machinery.
They have the machine.
They always call it the machine.
When they're talking about the machine in Chicago, for example, always gets Democrats in.
It's a machine, it's literally a machine, it's a mechanism that works to get these votes into play.
Here is, I have two clips here, an expert, an American expert explains the 14th Amendment on France 24.
The 14th Amendment was passed in the wake of the Civil War, which, as everybody more or less knows, was fought between the states in the war succession.
It's literally called, in the French translation of it, because half the country, more or less, the southern states, wanted to secede from the Union Because they objected to, notably, the institution of slavery being banned at the federal level.
So after that, when the North won and the country was reunified, the South was considered traitorous.
They were insurrectionists.
I mean, these very people that were now seeking to come back into public office.
Uh, war had been literally killing Union soldiers and civilians during the war, and they had been proclaiming that there should no longer be a United States, at least that they wanted to be part of, in the way that was envisioned in the Constitution.
So this was a huge issue, and the Congress, uh, led the efforts to pass a constitutional amendment, the 14th Amendment, which has several But the one we're talking about here, Section 3, notably, says, look,
if you have previously been an official in the United States government if you have previously been an official in the United States government and sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution and then violated that Constitution, you cannot return
So, in other words, Jefferson Davis, for example, who was the president of the Confederacy, had he had it in his mind, of course, at the time that would have been considered crazy.
But say he had taken it in his head to become president of the United States and run against Lincoln or Ulysses S. Grant or whoever, he would have been banned by this provision.
And, in fact, several people running for Congress were banned by it.
So this is what we're talking about.
This is the provision of the Constitution that's at issue here.
Actually slightly wrong according to most of the analysis.
Of course it's slightly wrong.
Which says that you can run as a president.
He's not mentioned.
The president is not mentioned.
So what could happen, Jefferson Davis or whoever it was could actually run for presidency.
I have one more.
This is an analysis from Mike Davis.
He is from the Article 3 Project, which, who knew?
Who knew?
All of a sudden there's an article, and he's on Steve Bannon's war room, so says enough.
And they just decreed that President Trump somehow committed an insurrection, and so therefore they're going to throw him off the ballot.
And that is not what the controlling case law says.
It's very clear if you want to disqualify An officer of the United States based upon insurrectional rebellion you have to charge him under the federal criminal statute for insurrectional rebellion passed pursuant to section 3 of the 14th amendment back in 1869.
You have to have a grand jury indict, a jury unanimously convict with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, find guilty with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
The judge has to convict and that conviction has to be upheld on appeal.
That is the only way you can disqualify under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
The Supreme Court of the United States needs to not take Jack Smith's cert before judgment case, which is just complete nonsense, and they need to save room on their docket for this Colorado Supreme Court case.
It's all bullcrap.
It's totally stupid.
None of this will get through.
None of this is going to hold.
Going back to your wonderment...
As to what are these people, are they fooling themselves to think that this isn't going to backfire?
I want to play, I have very short, like 17 second clip, which might give you some indication of where these people are at.
This is Ari Melber.
Ari.
Ari.
Ari Melber.
The news model who quotes hip hop lyrics.
And so just see if you can catch the little indicator within this very short, this is just a clip of a clip, just see if you can catch the indicator in here that these people are delusional.
Vacant.
If past is prologue, then Kevin McCarthy's very recent past shows you both where the Republican Party is headed and, many people think, potentially into a wall if it has no adjustment process for what remains a very unpopular and indicted former president.
I have no idea what he just said.
He's just yacking away about something, but he says, he's talking about the Republican Party's direction, and he says they're hitting a wall because they're backing a very unpopular, listen to it again, he says a very unpopular former president.
Vacant.
If past is prologue.
Then Kevin McCarthy's very recent past shows you both where the Republican Party is headed and, many people think, potentially into a wall if it has no adjustment process for what remains a very unpopular and indicted former president.
And indicted.
You forgot to mention that.
Yeah, I always put that in.
Indicted.
Yes.
Twice impeached.
He missed a whole bunch of stuff.
Well, but it's just this delusional vision of the world that is...
That the entire crew at MSNBC, CNN, and a lot of the news media, the print media in particular, they're all this way.
And now they're coming out of the woodwork.
I should have gotten some clips of this, but they had a classic PBS NewsHour situation where the news media had the editor of The Atlantic, and then to counterbalance him they had New York College in New York.
I can't remember the name of this journal.
Rosen was on.
Jay Rosen?
Jay Rosen.
No balance whatsoever.
And they're both advocating, which I've been seeing tons of on social media.
All these journalists saying it's time, we can't be objective anymore because our democracy is at risk.
We must stop this nonsense of objectivity when democracy is at risk.
We must express our opinion.
We talked about this in the last show a little bit and this has gotten out of control because these people are completely insane.
And that's it.
They come from a place, which was not that long ago, Where, and I would say this is part of the reason for the anger with Elon Musk, they come from a place where they controlled the message.
And they truly, the journalists in particular, they felt they were in control.
We determine what you know.
We, the New York Times.
You can see it in the arrogance of the reporters.
What's that dipshit's name?
Lorenz?
Taylor Lorenz.
The minute someone got on her face, she starts crying.
No, because we are in control of the message.
We know better.
We know better.
We're the elites.
The problem is they're not the elites.
The journalists of this country are anything but the elites.
They're just... They're... Pass-through.
Useful idiots.
Yeah, pass-through stooges.
Stooges?
Yeah, pass-through stooges.
Yeah.
So, you know...
And, but of course, everything's out of control.
I mean, everything's out of control.
There's, there's no one's in charge anymore.
It's every man for himself on X. Everybody's fighting and yelling and everyone knows better.
And it's just because everyone thinks, oh, you know, if, if Trump becomes president, there goes our democracy.
And the other side, if Trump becomes president, he'll fix everything.
Yeah, dream on.
Yeah, but neither will be of course not.
No, of course not.
And then as the big meme, the big meme everybody, the big meme, oh yeah, you know what?
They're all afraid!
We may soon learn the identities of more people connected to Jeffrey Epstein.
The federal judge has ordered the release of more than 150 names which were previously withheld.
They include witnesses and victims in the civil case against Karleen Maxwell, who is currently serving 20 years in prison for being Epstein's accomplice in sex trafficking.
The list also includes some of Epstein's former employees.
Epstein, a wealthy and well-connected financier, was indicted in 2019 for a scheme of involving underage girls.
He later took his own life in jail before he could be tried.
I wonder how many men Michelle is seeing at home right now going, oh, Lord.
And women.
And women, too.
Women as well.
It's a terrible story.
Wow.
Now, that was interesting.
That was interesting that she threw in the women thing.
This is Gail.
You know, because we can probably expect Oprah to be on this list if anything ever gets published, if.
If, if, if, if.
Because Oprah was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein too.
And then so this colleague throws in, and women, Gayle, and women, just so you know.
And what is this list of clients?
What does that mean, clients?
It doesn't mean anything.
I don't know why they don't publish the list.
Let it hit the fan and so what?
It doesn't prove anything.
I mean, this is like the... I'm not one here to... Bill Gates doesn't need my help to defend himself with this latest thing.
Oh, there's a picture of him with some woman.
And so I went back and I said, picture it.
So there was actually an article in a Russian, I think not Sputnik, but one of the Russian magazines with Bill Gates with a bunch of different women, many of them Epstein women.
But it's just like, I don't want to say that he did this or that, and I suspect he probably had some fun with a couple of them, but you can't prove anything.
If you're a celebrity at that level, if you're a multi-billionaire, one of the richest people in the world, people are going to want to have their picture taken with you.
Lots of them.
There's probably thousands of people that Bill couldn't identify in a million years, you know, where he's cozied up next to them.
Women, men, ladies, girls, everything in between.
But you know what?
You know what it shows above all?
Particularly this airplane.
And when I hear RFK Jr., like, yeah, you know, my wife at the time, I think it was Mary, She was friends with Ghislaine, and these people, they're like, hey, oh, you need a ride?
Just take my jet.
When have you gotten that offer?
When's the last time someone said to you, hey, John, oh, you need to go visit?
Just grab my jet, no problem.
They're in a club that we are very far from.
I know people in that club, and I don't know that they do that.
Oh, yeah, there's courtesies, like, because jets are... I think at the high end, if you have a jet, and I have a jet... Yeah, then you swap each other's jets.
It's like the people who go, a friend of mine is involved in one of these kind of circles where people, oh, come on over, come to the mansion out at the Hampsteads, we got a room for you, you can stay for a month.
I'll send the jet.
Yes, jet.
Now that's a little, okay, we're definitely not in that category.
No, we're not in the mansion, stay at the mansion category either.
No, you want to stay at the house maybe for a day, can't you find a hotel or something nearby?
You wouldn't even let me see your office when I came to visit.
No, well the office is off limits.
I don't want anyone putting a bug in this office, that's the reason.
But you don't trust me, your partner, for 16 years?
You gotta draw the line somewhere.
Meanwhile, no one talks about the FDIC's parties.
Have you been following that story?
Which one?
the FDIC under leadership of Chairman Grunberg.
Now, this does go back a couple of years.
But in...
Didn't we talk about FDIC probably some time ago?
Well, new reports of misconduct.
In 2020, the agency's inspector general published a report of sexual harassment that revealed that at least 191 FDIC employees experienced sexual harassment between January of 2015 This included Let me see, I have some of these here.
They had parties, and people would be groping each other.
Don't go to the party!
Yeah, but it's the FDIC!
This is a government agency!
Yeah, I know, it makes no sense.
Well, it's like, you know, the Napolitano's operation, which had a bunch of, you know, sexual harassment for the women.
Against men!
Yeah!
And against the other women.
Yeah, yeah.
These people are bored, let's face it.
Parties invite this sort of behavior.
I hate to tell you.
Meanwhile, X is under investigation.
Elon Musk's social media platform, X, the former Twitter, is now under investigation by the European Union.
The EU says it's focused on whether the company has done enough to stop the spread of illegal content.
It's the first such investigation under new regulations aimed at hate speech and misinformation.
Yes!
Europe is going well, everybody.
Hate speech and misinformation is on deck in Europe.
I gotta get my daughter out of there.
I'm gonna have to talk to her about this.
You really gotta get out of there.
Doesn't she enjoy living in Rotterdam?
It's a, you know, a nice country, a beautiful place.
Oh, you mean where they had terrorists they arrested ready to kill Jews?
That Rotterdam?
They have terrorists arrested ready to kill Jews in this country.
Yeah, well, there you go.
Don't move her to New York, whatever you do.
We should probably talk about that for a second here.
Tonight, the Israeli military says the three hostages who were mistakenly killed by Israeli forces had escaped from Hamas five days earlier after Israeli soldiers killed their captors in a firefight.
The army says they've since analyzed a camera on a military dog at the scene, which recorded the hostages' voices.
On a dog?
What?
They had a camera on a military dog?
Yeah, if I'm working the field and I got a camera on me, I say, where's the dog?
Let's put the camera on the dog.
I don't need to have this camera on me.
Here, Phoebe, you go check it out.
It's a camera on a military dog at the scene.
It recorded the hostage's voices.
They were later mistakenly shot by Israeli soldiers while holding a white flag.
Their deaths increasing the pressure in Israel to pause the fighting and strike a deal to get the rest of the hostages out.
The President today.
We're pushing it.
There's no expectation at this point.
But we are pushing.
Secretary of State Tony Blinken today blaming Hamas.
I hear virtually no one saying, demanding of Hamas that it stop hiding behind civilians.
That it lay down its arms.
That it surrender.
This is over tomorrow.
If Hamas does that.
Prime Minister Netanyahu vowing to continue the war until Hamas is eliminated.
Israel is now allowing aid into Gaza through a second crossing, but the U.S.
and aid groups say it's not nearly enough.
I'm going to give everybody the sad truth of what's happening here.
All this talk about pause and ceasefire and Hamas has to say it.
No.
Israel, the IDF, they're going to rubbleize the entire Gaza, all of it.
And when they're done with that, they're going to go and rubbleize in the north for Hezbollah.
They're not stopping.
All of this is just fodder to keep everybody talking and hoping and walking around with flags, but it's over.
They are not going to stop.
I have lots of acquaintances and friends in Israel.
You know, the parents of those Basically, young men who were killed.
They're out there saying, you know, it's horrible, but we don't blame the IDF.
We understand what happened and you can come to my house and I'll give you dinner at any point.
The people are so fed up with this.
They want what Netanyahu is doing.
They want it.
It's not going to stop.
There's a lot of protesting going on in Israel, so I think there's a divided population as to some want it and some don't.
Political protests.
Yeah.
Against Netanyahu.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well.
Well, let's go to, that brings us, since we're discussing this area, I do want to discuss a little bit about the Houthis.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is, this is heating up.
I'm liking it.
So there's no better, well, and I have my certain complaints, of course.
Yes, obviously.
So I do have a three by three.
Oh, you want to do that first?
Yeah, we're off to bat.
And now it's time for 3x3!
Experiment by Jesse Dean!
Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC!
You know, the funny thing is you can really see the script in this group of three because it's as if they're in the same newsroom.
The big three networks.
This is where we break it down.
We see what the script is and we find out what is bull and what is more bully.
Here we go with the three by three.
You know, the funny thing is you can really see the script in this group of three because it's as if they're in the same newsroom.
The structure of the three stories is almost identical.
It makes no sense.
And let's start with Richard Engel at NBC.
The cargo giant Maersk joined BP in halting traffic through the Red Sea in response to attacks by the Iranian-backed Yemeni militia known as the Houthis, who were hijacked and fired on several ships.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin in Bahrain today, home of the U.S.
5th Fleet, announced the formation of a 10-nation coalition to defend the Red Sea.
But the Houthis vowed to keep attacking ships until Israel ends its blockade of Gaza.
The showdown, sending oil prices up again today.
While the Palestinian Islamic Jihad tonight put out a video of two Israeli men it's holding hostage, yesterday Hamas released a video of three elderly hostages taken under duress.
The Gaza Strip is at a breaking point as Israel attacks Hamas.
Aid groups say 2.3 million Palestinians are paying an unbearable price.
The World Health Organization today described the situation in Gaza's hospitals as beyond belief and unconscionable.
Richard, what do we know about where the ceasefire talks stand right now?
They're fragile, Esther, but advancing with Qatar reporting progress and Malta reports that they'll continue tomorrow in Egypt.
Uh-huh.
Okay, so here's the structure.
We have the Houthis stopping the attacking and just attacking and then screwing up the Red Sea transport.
And then for some reason unknown to me, they jump to the hostages.
Hmm.
And then they finish the story with the discussion of, there's a mishmash report, and in there somewhere there was the Bahrain, I didn't realize that we kept our ships there in Bahrain, so that's a little point that will show up in another report.
So let's go to, let's move on to ABC with I'd say the report from the same newsroom.
Tonight we're also following the new attacks.
Iranian-backed militants taking aim yet again on commercial ships in the Red Sea.
It comes just hours after the U.S.
announced it was now leading an international naval task force with several nations.
Tonight, Iran backed Houthi rebels in Yemen, launching two more attacks on commercial ships in the Red Sea, just as the U.S.
announced a naval task force to counter the threat.
The U.S.
joining nine countries to escort vessels passing through the crucial trade route, after major companies, including oil giant BP, paused operations.
Bottom line is, these attacks have to stop.
If they need to stop, they're unacceptable.
The United States, our allies and our partners, will do what we have to do to counter these threats and to protect these ships.
But the Houthis vowing further attacks in retaliation for Israel's war in Gaza.
And David, another hostage video released tonight.
These images showing Gadi Moses and Elad Katzia, who were kidnapped on October 7th.
And tonight, Prime Minister Netanyahu met with hostage families, saying their release is his highest mission.
Hmm.
So here we go again, the same... Interesting.
...report goes from the Houthis to, oh, why did you stop shooting at us?
To the hostages.
Yeah.
So, okay, whatever.
Well, this is meant to focus you on the... It's like, well, hostages... I don't know what... To be honest about it, it's so unfocused itself, I don't see how I can make anyone focus on anything.
So here we go to...
CBS with another, and they're always a little bit, they always give a little more twist, they got a little more information than the other networks.
Some of the world's biggest shipping and oil companies are now rerouting their vessels away from the Red Sea after brazen attacks like this one by Iranian-backed Houthi rebels.
A dozen ships attacked in just the past month.
The Navy destroyer USS Kearney has been shooting down drones and missiles launched from Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen in support of Palestinians in the Gaza War.
10 to 15 percent of global trade normally passes through, worth an estimated $1 trillion.
Fearing Houthi attacks, ships are turning off transponders, hiring armed guards, and several companies are sailing around Africa, a pain consumers will feel.
We've launched Operation Prosperity Guardian.
In the region, Defense Secretary Lloyd... Hey, who makes up these code names?
This is a dumb one.
Prosperity Guardian.
Call us.
Call us, people.
We'll fix you up.
Consumers will feel.
We've launched Operation Prosperity Guardian.
Can we come up with a better name, John?
But anything but this.
Like, Hell to the Houthis.
You know, Hellfire on Houthis.
Anything but Prosperity Guardian.
We've launched...
Operation Prosperity Guardian.
In the region, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced a new task force to try to stop Houthi attacks.
A 10-country military alliance with the intent to grow.
So far, the only country from the Middle East to sign on is the tiny nation of Bahrain.
In Gaza, Israel's bombardment continues, with nearly 20,000 people now killed, says Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry.
And just hours ago, militants in Gaza released two more videos of hostages, and this is the second such release in two days.
That comes as leaders from both Israel and Hamas are signaling they are open to a new pause and a new hostage release deal.
So we have the same exact structure, all three stories, as if they're all working together.
So there's an overlord telling you how to do these things, obviously.
And they're doing a poor job, by the way.
Wait, you mean the media's corrupt?
And so you have, and there's the mention of Bahrain, which was where we keep our ships.
So yeah, they're going to join in because we give a lot of money to host our Navy.
So they're on board.
But here's a couple of things that crop up.
By the way, I have one more clip.
Here's what shows up in my mind.
One, Bahrain's the only one who joins in with a kind of a program to stop the Houthis.
What about Saudi Arabia?
They're at war with the Houthis.
Why aren't they in on this?
Simple question.
So no, no, we're not.
No, no.
And the second thing is, again, I'll say it again, I said on every show, we have satellites.
There's no clouds over Yemen.
We have satellites right over showing exactly where these missiles are coming from.
We could bomb the crap out of those sites and end it at that because we're bombing Somalia as we speak.
Well, but how about this?
Maybe you want the oil price to go up a little bit.
Do you think that might be part of it?
I have a feeling.
They keep mentioning BP.
Well, the oil price did go up.
Yeah.
It hasn't gone up for any other reason, so there's something, you know, there might be something to that.
They're allowing, in other words, the point is, they're allowing this.
This is being allowed.
There's no way, if they didn't want it to happen, that they would just not bomb the crap out of Yemen.
We bomb everybody else.
Yeah, I know, but no.
Not these guys.
There's two things they can do.
One, they're allowing it.
Two, it's giving some of the destroyers and some of our ships target practice so we can see what it takes to shoot down these drones coming over.
Oh, one of the trolls had a good point.
Get the oil price all jacked up, then have Joe come out and mumble something, and then, you know, let it go down.
Well, it's going to go down anyway.
Yeah, but Joe.
Joe's going to do it.
Joe!
Well, no, he's not, but it's all theater, right?
The idea is he mumbles something.
Yeah, he mumbles something.
And then the social media goes nuts.
Joe saved us!
So I do have one report that kind of is probably more valuable than those three duplicate reports on three exact same networks.
This is the Houthi threat.
This is NTD.
The leader of the Yemeni Houthis vows to retaliate if Washington takes aim at Yemen.
This is as the U.S.
is spearheading a multinational coalition to interrupt Houthi attacks against cargo ships passing through the Red Sea.
Any American targeting our country will be targeted by us, and we will make American battleships, interests, and navigation a target for our missiles, drones, and military operations.
The Iran-backed group has been escalating missile strikes against vessels sailing through the Red Sea in an attempt to show support for Hamas terrorists amid the Israel-Hamas war.
Those strikes are forcing ships to either cancel transit or reroute to Africa, which is causing gas and shipping prices to rise.
The U.S.-led security pact, joined by nine other countries, plans to ramp up patrol in the Red Sea to deter and respond to future Houthi attacks.
So all of these reports include the one name which I've been tracking, which is Iran, or Iran.
And so, you know, what I'm most curious about is, is this going to be the precursor?
Is this, excuse me, time to go and bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran?
And I can tell you no.
And the reason I know is because General Frank McKenzie came on the PBS NewsHour to discuss the Red Sea crisis.
We return now to the conflict in the Middle East and rising tensions in the Red Sea, where about 12% of the world's global trade passes through, and where Houthi militias in Yemen have been attacking ships.
The Houthis say their attacks are in support of the Palestinians.
Yesterday, U.S.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced a new multinational effort to protect ships in the region.
But how will that work?
For that, we turn to former commander of U.S.
forces in the Middle East, retired General Frank McKenzie.
He's now the executive director of the Global and National Security Institute at the University of South Florida.
Yeah, beautiful.
We got a spokeshole, everybody.
The Houthis are a proxy of Iran and they've seized governmental control in a coup in Yemen several years ago.
They've been largely responsible for the mass starvation in the country.
And with Iran, they pursue a policy for the destruction of Israel.
They're not completely under the direct control of Iran, but Iran provides their equipment, provides their resourcing and all their supplies.
But they're not directly at the beck and call of Iran in this matter.
The Houthis have wanted to attack Israel.
It's very hard for them to range Israel proper.
So they've settled on instead trying to cut off communication of maritime shipping in the Babel-Mendeb area down at the southern end of the Red Sea.
So the more I hear these people talk about the Houthis, the more I think they work for us.
I mean, this whole thing stinks to high hell.
Let's talk about the task force.
And as we mentioned, the U.S.
announced this creation of this multinational task force to protect commercial traffic through the Red Sea.
Why is it called a task force?
The fact that they called it a task force is, like, lame.
You know, how about attack force or defense force?
Defense force would be better.
Anything but task force.
That's something the marketing department does in your company.
Yeah, I agree.
We have task force.
How exactly will that work?
And in your estimation, will it be enough to deter future attacks?
The ships will be important.
We will provide ships, our friends and partners will provide ships, and those warships that will be out there shepherding the merchant vessels through will be very important.
But what will be equally important will be the intelligence architecture that we put over the Bab-El-Mendeb.
You need to see what's going on.
You do that through manned patrol aircraft, unmanned aircraft, drones, all kinds of other intelligence gathering systems to actually see what the Houthis are up to.
Money, money, money, money!
And this also has another effect, and we know from many years of dealing with Iran, they don't like to be observed.
It can have a deterring effect.
In 2019, our heavy use of ISR, intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance assets, around the Strait of Hormuz, prevented the Iranians from carrying out nefarious attacks.
May or may not be enough with the Houthis, they tend to be very aggressive.
I think at some point we're probably going to have to consider... What's that?
They've been at war for, I don't know, what is it, 10 years now in Saudi Arabia?
This is bullcrap.
You're right, this is a crock of crap from the get-go, and they're doing this, and by the way, no one's going to talk about this guy, I had a clip of him, I didn't bring it along.
Which is, the price of insurance for the ships going through the Red Sea has gone up tenfold to the point, this never mentioned, to the point where it's actually still super expensive to drive all the way around the African tip, but cheaper to do that than pay for the insurance and so nobody's going through the Red Sea.
This is a set, definitely a way to jack up prices.
Yes.
And to maybe, maybe Orwell with inflation, but that's because of the Houthis.
Something like that.
Yeah, Huthi Inflation.
Huthi Inflation.
Huthi.
No one's going to... That's too hard to sell.
I'm not going to go that far.
Well, they'll call it supply chain.
It's an idiotic name for an organization to begin with.
But they'll call it a supply chain.
Here, what's the future of big business?
BP is now the latest company to announce it's going to be pausing shipments through the Red Sea, as we mentioned, with so much global trade going through that area.
What does that mean for the future of big business?
Well, I think if we're unable to reestablish or reassert the right of free passage here and keep the Houthis from making these attacks, everything's going to slow down.
It's 14 more days to go around Africa to come up either east or west.
And that will tend to exert greater pressure on the market, probably the energy market first, but other markets as well.
So it's in everyone's interest.
Every nation that moves on the global commons actually has an interest in ensuring that the Bab el-Mendeb is going to be open for the right of free passage of ships.
The Houthi price hike.
You never know.
Final clip here.
Talk to us about the region.
I mean, we'd have to understand the region.
What's going on in the region?
As you mentioned, the Houthis are an Iranian proxy.
What does all of this suggest about the potential for Israel's war against Hamas to escalate into a wider regional conflict?
Region!
Sir, I think the odds of the escalation beyond Gaza are actually fairly small right now.
Lebanese Hezbollah has not chosen to enter the fray despite the fact they're exchanging low levels of fire with Israel on its northern border.
Iran has not chosen to directly attack Israel.
Those are important things that have perhaps been overlooked.
Hamas is not getting a lot of support from those two entities.
Now the Houthis are, but again as I said the Houthis have limited ability actually to strike Israel.
They're reduced Okay.
So, no escalation.
It's a scam.
down around the Bab Elmendeb and they are doing that but I believe that's a problem we can solve we may need to be a little more aggressive about it than we've been today but I believe that's a solvable problem but the larger issue is I don't think it leads to escalation okay so no escalation it's a scam Bob obviously yeah you know the idea that the Houthis might be working on our behalf is an interesting one since you know people are getting killed up then right But the shipping has been stopped.
Smart money goes around.
But wouldn't it make sense since we had to sell all the, well, we sold all of that war machine material and we paid for a lot of the defense of Saudi Arabia in Yemen.
Of the Toothies and the Hoothies.
So the Hoothies were hitting our allies, and we need war there so that we can make more war stuff.
And now it's just more war.
It's like, oh, look, there's another opportunity.
So yeah.
It's all an opportunity.
Everything's an opportunity.
Why wouldn't you have those guys be on our payroll?
Hey, crank it up, boys.
And I remain, the minute, when I saw them land on that ship, With the Huthi Banderas?
Yeah, with the GoPros, the body cams, the first person shooter view.
It looks like a stage.
They got the helicopter landing and everyone jumping up.
That was very staged.
That was production.
Edited, nicely put together, put it out there.
Why didn't we do anything about it?
The helicopter flying around by itself, nobody cares?
We got all kinds of gunships and everything in between and it's floating around and a helicopter goes flying through.
The hoothie heli is on the loose.
No worries, let it go.
It doesn't make any sense at all.
And we didn't know, oh, we didn't even see it.
You know, we got satellites all over the place.
Give me a break.
You know, one of Tina's friends, you know, she listens to No Agenda and her, I think, millennial daughter, I have a quote.
My daughter lecturing me about Palestine told me that John and Adam can afford not to take sides because they're old white men.
I'm like, what does that even mean?
I don't understand.
Because we don't have to worry about it?
Uh, you know, but here's something.
Hello, children!
No, that had to, wait, wait, before you finish that thought, that had to be inculcated, because, uh, there has to be some rationale that these kids are fed, because that sounds like something you'd say without thinking.
In other words, you were brainwashed into saying that, so it's like, uh, because there's no thought in a statement like that.
It's part of colonialism, I think.
Okay, well yeah, that's what it is.
I've always been a colonialist.
That's right.
You have a very small colony of sanity in the Berkeley area.
Meanwhile... Yeah, he's having another meeting in February at the Mallard Club.
I'd love to have some protests for what's happening in the Congo.
Well, wait, finish your thought on the girl.
No, that's all the thought I have.
It's stupidity.
It's been indoctrinated.
And so the finishing of the thought is, well, this.
Security and logistical challenges in Congo caused disruptions in today's presidential election.
Almost 44 million people were expected to vote amid chaotic conditions.
Crowds grew agitated after poll openings were delayed for hours in the capital city of Kinshasa.
And smudged ink on voting cards slowed the process.
As a result, balloting will be extended until tomorrow.
So the New York Times has a big article today called The Overlooked Crisis in Congo.
We live in war.
How many people do you think have been killed in the past few years in Congo?
Is this the Democratic Republic of the Congo?
Yes.
I would say how many people in the past year?
No, the past couple of years.
This has been going on for a few years.
I would say, uh, 100,000.
Six million.
Well, where's the protest?
Exactly.
Six million, that's three times the population of Gaza.
Six million.
Now lurching into a volatile new phase.
No one cares, you know why?
They're black.
Racists, that's why.
I bet you no one could identify a Congo flag.
No, but they can, they sure know what a Palestine flag looks like.
Yeah.
That's what gets my goat.
It's like, please, be quiet.
You don't care about people.
You've been programmed to say something.
That's all that's happening.
Yeah, they couldn't identify half these places on a map.
No, there's that.
The Congo is actually pretty easy to find.
It's big.
Just point to the middle of Africa, you pretty much will hit it.
That's about it.
Um, no, I have a couple of, we're on international stuff.
I have to, I've got a new story category.
Oh, okay.
I call WTF News.
We need a jingle.
WTF News refers to, I have two stories today actually, one is not as good as the other, but WTF News, these are stories that you hear them and you wonder, did you know this in the lead?
This is like again from NTD because they will report on stuff that Why isn't this on the networks?
On our networks, you mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
We'll find out as soon as we get to it.
Which story?
Venezuela.
Turning our attention now to South America, Venezuela is freeing 10 jailed Americans in exchange for the release of Colombian businessman Alex Saab.
He was arrested on a U.S.
warrant back in 2020 for funneling some $350 million from a Venezuelan housing program.
Saab is a close ally of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.
U.S.
officials often refer to him as Maduro's bag man.
As for the released Americans, according to the White House, six among the ten were wrongfully detained by the socialist regime.
Venezuela will free at least 20 Venezuelans as well, including political prisoners.
As part of the agreement, Venezuela will also extradite Leonard Francis, a defense contractor known as Fat Leonard, who orchestrated one of the largest bribery schemes in the history of the U.S.
military.
The scandal took down nearly two dozen Navy officials.
Francis fled the U.S.
ahead of his scheduled sentencing last year and has since stayed in South America.
It's interesting, I had this story.
Fat Leonard?
Yeah, I had the Fat Leonard story, and here's the question I have.
And we said we had an exchange.
We exchanged prisoners.
Yeah.
And my question is, why are we giving special preferential treatments to Venezuelan illegal immigrants to give them work permits when we have this Fat Leonard deal going on?
Was that part of the deal?
Hey, you know what?
You give us Fat Leonard and we'll have, you know, we'll give 15,000 Venezuelans who have crossed over illegally, we'll give them work permits.
That has to be part of it.
That deal has to be going on, and I think some of the political prisoners will be coming up here, too.
I'm sure of it.
And this Fat Leonard story, though, about taking down like 20 naval executives, and it was the biggest bribery scandal in the history of the United States.
I never heard of Fat Leonard.
How does that happen with our news media?
It seems to me that Fat Leonard needs to be shut up is what's going on.
We need to get that guy back here so we can like stifle him.
Yeah, I think Fat Leonard's a problem.
Fat Leonard.
Fat Leonard.
Show title.
I'm writing it down as we speak.
Okay.
I have a little bit of AI news which I'd like to share.
I have a follow-up clip.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Because I have some thoughts on AI, too.
Because we're at odds, somewhat, insofar as AI is concerned, even though we have a great AI clip at the end of the show mix.
Mm-hmm.
At least in my opinion.
Oh, yes.
It's not AI.
That's actually one of our guys doing that voice.
Well, it might as well be AI.
No, it's the way I see it.
That is a talented person.
The way I see it.
Yeah, it's a talented person.
Do you have something you want to play?
Well, I want you to play yours first, and then I'll play my one clip.
Well, I have a whole setup.
Oh, okay.
Well, let me just play this.
This was a fake video that I thought was hilarious.
This one got a big scandal.
Oh, I forgot it's NBC or somebody.
You've got to take their suing.
They sued over it.
And the whole thing is a fake video of one of their anchors, Garrett Hawke.
This is good.
And welcome to a special edition of Meet the Press Now, coming to you live from beautiful Miami, Florida, as we count down to the third Republican presidential debate hosted by NBC News.
I'm Garrett Haake, live from our NBC News debate hall spin room, where we are just hours away from five Republican candidates taking the stage.
Tonight, it's arguably a game of survival, as the field faces major questions about the state of their own campaigns and the state of this race, with frontrunner Donald Trump maintaining his commanding lead and once again skipping the contest.
This is Ron DeSantis, an establishment rhino that wears insoles in his boots in order to look taller.
And this is Nikki Haley.
Nobody really gives a shit about Nikki Haley.
This guy is probably just a stagehand.
Who the fuck invited this guy?
And this guy is probably just delivering pizzas.
Anyway, nobody cares about these bullshit Rhino debates.
Especially when you know that Donald Trump is going to kick some ass tonight.
So they have Trump at the end, of course.
That's the payoff.
That's the joke.
I'm seeing this as the way Trump used Twitter in 2016.
He used social media.
I don't know who gives him these ideas, but this is the Trump campaign using AI and doing crazy videos like this.
People can track it down.
Most of the copies have been taken down.
Because NBC is so irked about it, they sued him, and they sued the Trump campaign, and they pulled it.
But it's out there.
And it's funny to watch, because when they say, this guy's delivering pizza, and they show Vivek.
And they show, I don't know who this guy is, like maybe a janitor, and that was Scott.
Very, very insulting and funny.
But this is the whole point, is AI, and you could have done it, I mean, no one knows Garrett Haik really, I mean, they could have done it with a voice actor, but okay, we'll call it AI, fine.
That's the business model, that's all there is.
People are afraid of, oh, AI is going to do all that, people are going to fall for the fake.
No, no, it's used for humor, it's used for comedy.
I agree with you, this is, nobody's falling for this.
No.
And the fact that NBC sued him when you could say it was a parody, you could have countersued and kept it up, but it's better to be sued and take it down.
That's what you want!
That's more publicity so it makes it look better and then people go seek it out because I had to do that and you know it took some time.
I found it and then you get to watch it and you crack up and you know these guys are all freaked out about it.
This is totally, AI is Just for humor, and it's very good at it.
AI is for humor.
And we have some humor coming up.
But first, we need to have some teeth put behind the executive order that President Biden put in place, because AI is so dangerous.
It's dangerous.
It's racist, is what it is.
So we found a case.
Huh!
Boy, I'm so happy we can prove that we need these laws for AI.
Earlier today, big news from the FTC, or Federal Trade Commission, as it banned Rite Aid from using facial recognition technology in its stores for five years.
Why?
Well, according to the FTC... Why?
Don't you hate it when they do that?
Why?
Well, if you leave that out, if you leave the why out, it actually flows better.
No, but it's a thing.
It's like people do that.
Why?
Well, I'm going to educate you.
Well, according to the FTC, the drugstore giant secretly used it for nearly a decade for surveillance purposes, but they wrongly accused many of shoplifting in the process, and they falsely accused the people that they did were more likely to be people of color or women.
In a statement, Rite Aid bragged that, quote, we are pleased to reach an agreement with the FTC and put this matter behind us.
However, we fundamentally disagree with the facial recognition allegations in the agency's complaint.
Let's bring in NBC News technology correspondent Jake Ward.
Jake Ward!
Have you ever come across Jake Ward?
He's the NBC technology correspondent.
Surely you've heard of Jake Ward.
Uh, no.
So Jake Ward's going to explain, he's going to explain to us, and I like this.
I like that, hey, you know what?
Our AI is identifying chicks and blacks.
They are thieving!
Jake, obviously a lot of questions people probably wondering around this like what are the laws that regulate facial recognition?
But also to the point that's being made here in 2019, federal agency found that Asian and black individuals were up to 100 times more likely to be misidentified.
So has the technology also evolved since then?
So this this is the only thing they have on AI.
They're gonna go after Everything they can with this one point.
It's racist.
Because old white men put it together.
It's racist!
Well, Sam, you know, the technology has evolved, but unfortunately the use of it seems to have degraded, at least in Rite Aid's case.
I mean, right, that is the allegation that FTC is basically coming, that's the conclusion.
Is the FTC, are they a judicial agency?
Do they have the right to do this?
I think so.
How many white people are in Rite Aid in Baltimore?
Just a question offhand.
You know, basically, if you walked into a Rite Aid in a large urban center of Baltimore, Philadelphia, San Francisco between 2012 and 2020, you were picked up by this facial recognition system.
And I've been speaking with people.
How many white people are in Rite Aid in Baltimore?
Just a question offhand, you know, it was like Baltimore is pretty black.
It's a very black area.
We're close to this project and they say, you know, initially the idea was that people would then come to you having, you know, matched your photo to a very high-tech database of other repeat shoplifters.
And then the idea was that the staff member would somehow come over and just say, excuse me, sir, may I help you?
And by being kind of greeted in that very polite, high-touch way, you'd be embarrassed and you'd leave.
That was sort of going to be the original idea.
What?
Yeah, you'd be embarrassed and kind of leave.
Like, oh, I didn't steal anything.
You'd be embarrassed.
AI is embarrassing.
You'd be embarrassed by somebody coming over and saying, can I help you?
That happens all the time.
But over the years, Sam, I mean, you know, right, the money paid to retail clerks has stayed the same while their responsibilities have gone up and up and up, right?
Morale, staffing problems, the rest of it mean that in an environment of really, you know, dysfunctional, a really dysfunctional market, you suddenly have employees trying to deal with a Oh, the poor employees!
Oh, the poor employees.
And not in a sensitive way.
And it turns out not in a way where you could rely on the technology.
The FTC says that thousands of people were falsely identified as shoplifting.
What?
This report, he's just rambling.
He's not telling us anything. - Yeah.
Even though, you know, the technology in theory can be better, the people here were not trained, they would haul people out of line, embarrass them in front of their colleagues, their families, their friends, all of it suggesting that, you know, this high-minded ambition that Rite Aid and many other stores seem to have had with facial recognition did not work out such that the FTC has now banned that company from using it for five years.
Meanwhile, the TSA uses that every single day that when you go to the airport, they're scanning your face, they're approving you based upon facial recognition, airlines are checking you in automatically just by looking at a camera.
No report on that, Jake Ward!
So the enforcement, obviously, is a challenge, to put it mildly.
I'm also wondering, Jake, companies like Rite Aid, I mean, we talked about the fact this was done secretly, at least those are the allegations from the FTC.
Do you have to disclose if you're using this kind of technology?
Ah, yes.
You do now, and that is what is so interesting.
I mean, the reason that this is such a big deal in the tech world is this is the FTC.
I've been speaking to sources close to that agency, and they say that this is part of the FTC's effort to try to stop the large-scale practice of essentially experimenting on all of us when it comes to big data.
Except the government wants to do it at the airport.
And that's not just going to be facial recognition systems.
It's going to be things like AI, right?
Up until now, the laws have basically permitted people to collect all kinds of data on all of us and experiment in the wild on the kind of conclusions you can reach using that stuff.
The FTC is saying no more.
In this case, one of the punishments being levied against Rite Aid is they have to delete the database that they had assembled across stores across the nation.
They don't get to just sort of, you know...
Make it back up, then delete it.
Yep.
Try again.
That is a big cost to any kind of tech-driven company.
You know, in addition, they basically say that, you know, this kind of new standard that you're going to have to really prove that this thing works on an ongoing basis is also going to apply.
Get this guy the hook.
All right, he's done.
All right.
Geez, he's on and on and on about nothing.
So what?
All right, now we get to the information, the Info Mavericks.
The Info Mavericks, there was a big Info Maverick meeting at Turning Point USA.
your buddies oh yeah oh yeah the info maverick club the info maverick club in this case at turning point usa on stage a live pool boy podcast with our our hero the pool boy along with tucker carlson charlie kirk james o'keefe i mean this is the creme de la creme of the info mavericks of the mavericks and let's hear how afraid they are of ai and and how A.I.
is going to eat the world!
We may be past the event horizon.
The point at which the pull towards A.I.
is so great, there's no backing away from it.
We're being sucked in faster and faster.
I think you can go into it with these neural nets.
A human that understands the code can go into the system, be in the virtual realm, and reverse-engineer the code.
You can see what's happening and how it's being written in real time.
Oh, brother!
No!
Stay with it, John!
It gets better.
I mean, maybe.
I would just do it with a keyboard, man.
I'm not going into that thing.
But listen, this is, this is Elon Musk's argument.
We must integrate with the machine lest we get a Terminator-like scenario.
Does anyone sincerely think this is going to end well?
I mean, honestly.
No, I admit.
But listen, like, this is the scary thing.
This is what people need to understand about, about the singularity event.
When AI... Alright, hold on.
This is what people need to understand.
I'm the pool boy.
This is what people need to understand.
I'm going to tell you right now what's going to go on.
You need to understand this.
It's very important.
It's very important!
Like, this is the scary thing.
This is what people need to understand about the singularity event.
When AI, when it actually turns on, when we reach artificial general intelligence... We might be there.
And we might be there and just not know it.
It's a point at which the machine itself exponentially improves itself.
So if the rate of growth for the computer systems that we're building is, say, Moore's Law, it doubles every two years.
That's not Moore's Law!
It doubles every two years!
We're building is, say, Moore's Law.
It doubles every two years.
Once we reach the point of AI singularity, or I guess you could call it artificial general intelligence, it's just straight to the top.
Right up to the point of near infinity, where this machine is improving itself, learning faster and faster and calculating faster, and then it's beyond our comprehension.
Yes!
Wow, he saw the movie The Forbin Project, Colossus, The Forbin Project recently.
That's exactly what he described.
Ah, man.
Hell yes, we're all gonna die.
Colossus, The Forbin Project.
Go check it out, people.
We've talked about it.
I've watched it.
You can get it on YouTube.
It's fantastic.
And it's old.
It's from the 60s, I think.
Isn't it?
70s?
Meanwhile, Guys on Emacs doing Lisp rolling their eyes.
Yeah, well my thing in there is you're going to get a neural net which is going to go and kind of disassemble the code somehow.
And then you're going to be able to go in there because you've disassembled the code with a neural net and then you can fool around.
This is nuts.
These people are no good for your mental health.
Nor are the next people.
Now this is, I'm gonna bring in a professor now.
Galloway.
So close, so close.
It is from the Pivot Show, which I might point out is the award-winning technology podcast.
Award-winning.
I've never heard him talk about technology.
It's the award-winning technology podcast.
And they have a bunch of predictions for 2024, and they bring in a Stanford professor of AI!
To predict what is going to happen in 2024.
Okay Scott, now let's hear a prediction from Dr. Fei-Fei Li.
Hi, Tara and Scott.
This is Fei-Fei Li.
I'm a Sequoia professor of computer science at Stanford.
Standing co-director of Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI and the author of the book... Is she AI?
I think she's Asian.
Her name is Fu-Fu or Fa-Fa.
She's obviously AI.
No, she's not.
She's just code.
Then you're playing some code for us.
And I love that she's the Sequoia professor.
You know how that works.
Hi, I'm Mike Morris from Sequoia.
We're going to give you $100 million, but whenever your professor goes on Pivot, an award-winning technology podcast, she has to say, hello, I am the Sequoia professor.
You know, the joke of that is that when I hear the Sequoia professor, I think of a tree.
I don't think of...
Hi, I'm the Pfizer professor.
Listen to her prediction, though.
This is where you know that it's... Okay, I'll shut up.
Now you know it's bull crap.
This is Fei-Fei Li.
I'm a Sequoia professor of computer science at Stanford, standing co-director of Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI, and the author of the book, The Worlds I See.
My prediction for AI in 2024 is that the technology will continue to deepen and widen with a very impressive speed.
We're going to see more multimodal large models beyond language into the domain of perception and world modeling.
We will also see AI continue to Create a lot of discussion among the public and policymakers as we experience the messy impact of AI in our society, in our industry.
Thank you.
Okay.
What?
What was that?
Exactly!
She says, I think the technology will widen and deepen.
Okay.
Bullshit!
Everything's gonna widen and deepen as you dig deeper from this bull, and it will become multimodal.
Nah, I've been following this now.
I'm so irked by this scam.
That I'm following.
Multimodal means it will build large language models with video and images and voice and audio.
So yeah, put our podcast in there, please.
And she predicts World modeling.
This is the new buzz term.
World modeling.
What does that even mean?
Ah, I'm glad you asked.
I'm asking.
From the university I got a quick splainer of world modeling, also known as general world model.
The thing is, LLMs only know about language.
What if we applied this same big data, big model approach to how we generate videos?
Well, that's what we're calling General World Models.
GWMs.
And we believe that they're the next big thing.
Similar to LLMs, general world models are given a large amount of data, but not just text.
It's also given videos, images, and audio, everything you'd need in order to understand how the world works.
And with all this information, the models build out sort of a mental map for themselves.
And this is where my dog comes in.
Hi, Ruben!
Ruben also has an internal model of the world based on things he knows.
And it looks something like this.
He learned that if we go this way, there's a higher chance of us going to the park.
And if we go that way, there's a dog that kind of looks at him funny.
He knows that there's usually sidewalk chicken scraps right here, and that these stores, known as pet stores, that have the treats that he likes.
Once we get to the park, this is where all the butt sniffing happens.
With all of this data, the sights, sounds, relationships of things, Rubin has figured out how to predict certain outcomes and adjust his behaviors, just like the general world model.
So there you have it.
A far cry from the fear mongering from the pool boy and the info mavericks.
The level that they're talking about for 2024 is a dog who knows when you turn right, butt sniffing will happen.
This is, this is the future.
That's from the university.
Yeah, and they would know.
Stanford was big, big, big in the 80s.
Big in butt sniffing.
And they were always big in butt sniffing.
Everybody who's ever been there knows that.
You have to be careful, by the way, when you go.
The butt sniffing could be very bad.
So, it's nothing.
I'm telling you, they're going to pivot to Quantum computing.
No.
They have to.
They have to.
No, there's no logical pivot there.
They're going to pivot.
I'm not going to argue the point.
But the pivot is climate change.
They always do that.
They always pivot from AI.
They did it in the 80s.
They did it in the 50s.
Okay, well, hold on, hold on.
This is a good point.
When in the 50s, neither you or I know, but in the 80s, when they pivoted away, when the AI winter came in the 80s, where did they pivot to?
Well, to all I can tell, well, they pivoted to the internet, I believe.
They bailed on the AI.
And the thing is, the funny thing about the Stanford woman is that Stanford was one of the two main AI areas.
It was Stanford and I think it was MIT.
And I think Carnegie Mellon had something, maybe had their toe in the water.
But when they bailed, they basically destroyed all their research, too.
A lot of the research has been just, they got rid of it because it was too embarrassing.
They had to start over.
The people who dug up some of the old stuff has really got kick-started the new AI movement.
I don't know.
I think you... I don't know.
The reason why I say quantum computers is A, because it's not real.
B... But it's already been there.
We're already...
Past the quantum computing fad.
Okay, this is a headline from The Hill.
If countries are serious about climate change, they better get serious about quantum computing.
And the story goes like this.
Quantum computing uses laws of quantum physics to store and process information and rapidly solve complex problems.
Quantum computers available today require additional maturation to deliver on their full potential.
Then here it is.
Quantum computers will be able to accelerate improvements in batteries which are pivotal to the renewable energy transition.
And they keep going on about, oh, companies like BMW are investigating the use of quantum computers to identify optimal locations to install electric vehicle charging stations.
Why?
You need a quantum computer for that?
How about none?
Daimler partnered with IBM to use quantum simulation to better understand lithium-sulfur batteries and explore how to boost batteries' charge capacity, diminish energy loss via heat, and lower production costs.
Doesn't that sound a lot like AI?
Well, what you're saying...
My interpretation of what you're getting at is that you see such a smokescreen of BS that, well, there's a smokescreen of BS here, so why don't we just move over to the other smokescreen?
Well, it went from blockchain to AI.
I mean, that was smokescreen, smokescreen.
Everybody knew blockchain was crap.
I don't think blockchain was the entry point for AI at all.
Oh no, for the markets, John.
For the markets.
It was crypto and blockchain.
And that was right before, oh now it's AI.
Oh AI.
I don't know, I think it's a separate track.
We need reasons for Nvidia to overcharge for their chips.
Quantum is the next way for that.
Here's the problem with that.
The NVIDIA chips which are more or less perfect for AI because you need so much computing power to do the stupidest stuff including wear a dog and sniff ass.
It's like, yeah, nailed it.
Quantum computing is a different type of computing.
I mean, it's the architecture is totally alien and no one can do it.
I mean, Google claims to have made a quantum computer that solves some problem.
And it's there.
I've never bought into that.
It's bull crap.
These things, this is a joke.
The great article how artists are now sabotaging AI with data poisoning.
Have you heard of this?
No, but this reminds me of what vandals like.
I mean, this is vandalism.
Yes, yes, yes.
And vandals, vandals are out to just like, for example, the driverless cars.
Yeah.
There's a subculture of vandals that like to put like an X on a stop sign or put some word over the word stop on a stop sign or take stop signs out where they belong, even though it's still on the road.
And do stuff to screw up the driverless car.
Yes.
And it doesn't take much, it turns out.
Well, there's a tool called Nightshade, and you run your image through Nightshade, and it alters the pixels in a way that screws up the way the computer, the AI, looks at the image and what it interprets from the image.
So the example they give here is, you need an image of a balloon, you prompt red balloon against the blue sky, but it returns an egg.
I love this.
I love this.
I love these guys.
This is great.
This is fantastic.
It's already becoming just great.
It's just great.
It's fun.
The AI is entertaining and good for our show.
That's pretty much all it's good for.
No, I think AI is, I think the whole key is entertainment.
Yes.
That's all that it's really good for.
It's hardly anything you want to worry yourself sick about.
Yeah.
I mean, it could get tedious at some point.
But we have, in that thing, the pool boy brought up something called dead internet.
And dead internet is this idea that everything on the internet will just be a bot.
And everything, it's probably to some degree there's already a lot of that going on.
And that you'll be, you'll think that you'll be having conversations with people, we just talking with bots all day long.
I think that's kind of, we're already there.
I think some people can be stuck in that mode.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially incels.
Organ incels.
Yeah.
Sadly, sadly.
Look at with this cute female bot.
She loves me.
She says if I send her enough money, she can get, she can leave South Carolina.
Dude, I got... Where she was runner-up to Miss South Carolina, she's gonna move out here with me.
I don't know if it's just me, but the pig butchering is at an all-time high right now.
I am getting so many text messages.
We know how this works, we've discussed it several times.
The pig butchering, where they send you a note.
Let me see, I have one here.
From a 510 Arikote.
How are you?
How's it going?
Okay, so we skipped that one.
There's more creative ones.
Let me see, where was the other one I had?
Hey, I saved your number, but I didn't save your name.
Who are you?
Yeah, no, I'm going to answer that area code 906.
Now, what are they, what are we talking about here?
Pig butchering where you reply and then they send, you know, it's always some hot Asian chick and she sends you an image like, oh, you're kind of cute.
And then eventually you wind up investing in some cryptocurrency and you make money.
You make money because it's a phony fake front.
You make money and then they get you to mortgage your house.
It's a long game.
A long game.
There's a bunch of these phonies on LinkedIn nowadays.
Linda, how soon will you pick me up?
That's a good one.
That's an interesting one.
Are these your phone messages?
Yeah, these are text messages.
Hey, what are you doing?
There's that one.
Yeah, oh, this is rampant.
And it probably comes from Acts Blue.
Are you there?
Question mark.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I have none of these.
You don't even use your phone.
It's in the drawer.
Yeah.
Well, I have to talk about this.
This is one of the things we were going to talk about.
When January 1st comes around, I will have gone one entire year without a cell phone, carrying a cell phone, or having a cell phone, or even having an account for a cell phone, one entire year, and I bring this up to certain people, and like I brought up at the bank the other day, and everybody goes nuts.
How do you do it?
I wish I could do that.
Of course, my response to I wish I could do that is just do it.
Here you go.
How can you do that?
How do you... Way to go, John!
Woo!
How do you do it?
How do you function?
How do you live?
How is it possible?
I mean, do you have a life?
Do you have friends?
Do you have a seeing eye dog?
How can you live without your phone?
It's pretty much the reaction you get from everyone.
And it's like, it was only just before 2007 when people didn't carry these phones around like crazy.
It's not that long ago.
It's less than 20 years and the entire population has been addicted to carrying a phone around.
And like you pointed out to me, which I didn't notice at the time, it was a couple years ago, and I see nothing.
Guys and gals walking around with a phone in their hand.
Yeah.
All the time, wherever they go, there's a phone in their hand.
Two of them.
Two of them.
Sometimes two.
Women sometimes have two phones.
I see that a lot.
One is like work.
Yeah.
It turns out that you don't need that.
You have the phone.
I mean, once in a while you'd be at a store at the store.
Sometimes, you know, one or so and so once.
I mean, I should call.
I said, we want to buy one of these is on sale.
You don't need to do that.
And then while you're in the other response, I guess, hey, you bet you I get text messages from me.
I get tech.
You do have a phone.
You liar.
And it's like, no, I use Google.
Yeah, I use Google Voice.
And which has text message.
We do it on the computer.
I come in and I open it up once every week and find some messages on there.
I send messages out to people who I got to send some information.
Important people.
Important stuff.
You use your text message twice a week for me.
Newsletter.
Please review.
Newsletter.
That's what I get.
Newsletter.
Well, you require it.
I wouldn't normally do that because I send you the newsletter to look at.
Yeah, because I'm not looking at my email all day.
I have to because you're stuck on a phone like everybody else.
I send you the text.
I am not stuck on a phone.
You have a phone?
I have a Graphene OS.
There's a lot of stuff it doesn't do.
No, I agree with you.
I mean, you've done your best.
Yes, I have.
But you haven't gone all the way and just put the phone in a drawer.
Here's the problem with the phone.
Text messaging was kind of useful, but it's been so poisoned now because You know, I have Greg Abbott texting me, I have Kamala Harris texting me, I got Joe Biden texting me, and then they give my number out to all these pig butchers who are texting me.
It's filled, and you have to be careful.
It's like, hey, you know, this is your bank.
Click here for an important message.
And before you know it, you know, your bank account is compromised.
The two-factor authentication... There's nothing useful anymore in communication.
It's just not.
People go, oh, I use Signal, I use Telegrab, I use... It's all crap.
It really has become very useless, all of this.
It used to be, hey, you got my phone, and then there's a couple of people who have my number, and if you really need to get a hold of me, you're important in my life.
You can have that.
No, now everybody is important.
Everybody has my number.
It's just sold over and over and over again.
Yeah, once it gets out there.
I should do what Rogan does.
Rogan just buys a new number every like six months.
I know people that do that.
Yeah, he just gets, and he gets a whole new phone too.
He just gets a new phone and he leaves the other phone in the, you know, at home.
And then, you know, if I send him a message, oh dude, Bill, here's my new number.
Or sometimes he'll tell me if he changes the number.
He keeps the old one for a while and then he gets rid of it.
I know a number of people that do that.
It's a practice a lot of people employ.
But then I know lots of people who have given up their number And they get a new number and then they're getting text messages from someone's old number.
Oh yeah, this is a huge problem.
Because the new number is really somebody else's old number that they gave up to get a new number.
Because they're getting too many messages and now you're stuck with that number getting weird messages from people you never knew.
The only solution really is to go into a system where you pay for the message.
I have the solution.
Leave it in the drawer.
Have no life.
People in the drawer.
I don't need the aggravation.
That's why the other one I told one of the tellers.
I said, what happens?
How do people get a hold of you?
He said, I go home, they can get a hold of me on a landline.
I said, I'm not a doctor.
I don't need to be on call 24-7.
If I was a heart specialist or somebody like that, I would want to carry a phone, sure, but I'm not.
I'm a podcaster.
Nobody needs to get a hold of me.
My friend is a ER doctor, and he doesn't, he literally does not have a phone at dinner.
He did save a little girl's life the other night when we were having dinner.
How'd he find out?
Because she walked by him, she's like seven years old, and he immediately heard something, which was her choking, and he grabbed her and like BAM BAM BAM on her back, whips her head back, looks, still not, BOOM BOOM BOOM!
And it popped right out.
You witnessed this?
Yes, we were having dinner with them.
At a restaurant?
Yes.
I've never seen anyone's training spring into action like that.
He heard it.
The little girl was probably trying to go around the table to get to her mom on the other side and she was just choking.
And he heard that and he immediately knew what to do.
I was impressed.
Does not have a phone with him.
ER doctor.
Well, ER is different than... it's not the same as being an on-call heart doctor.
And the reason why is he doesn't want the hospital to call him and say, you need to come in because it's busy.
That's why he doesn't have a phone.
But I did find out something interesting, of interest.
You know, we have the big solar eclipse coming up.
Oh yeah, the big one.
April 8th.
Um, these are things you don't think about, but the hospital has ordered quite a number of body bags.
They're expecting so many people to come to Fredericksburg.
They expect there to be a number of people, more people than normal, that will die and will need a body bag.
Oh, it's just statistics.
Yes, statistics.
Right, and you gotta be prepared.
You gotta have, you have people that, that, logistics people who work at the hospital that know these things and they would, yeah, we gotta do this, we gotta do that.
It would be great for a local news report so people wouldn't come.
You have a statistical chance of leaving Fredericksburg in a body bag.
Dead!
Please don't come.
Don't visit us.
At all.
Yeah, good luck.
Why do people do this for 15 minutes?
Why are people coming from all around the world?
I don't know.
Ask them when they're there.
Get out there with a microphone and ask them.
Why are you here, dummy?
And believe me, the phones will not work here.
The phones, we barely get service on the weekends.
Oh, you get overloaded.
Yeah, on the weekends, it already overloaded.
All the retailers, they have to go to wired terminals, because the wireless terminals get overloaded on a Saturday, because that works as a cell network.
No, no, no.
It's, stay away.
The end of civilization.
Oh, well, that's a good point.
One of the trolls says the phone companies will bring in the event trucks.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
Oh yeah, they can do that.
They do that.
I'm bringing up my ham radio stuff.
I'm sick of it.
I need to be prepared.
The end is near.
I can tell.
I got a three-parter here with the Chinese election meddling.
Oh, I thought it was only Russia that does that.
No, turns out China does it more than Russia.
Oh, okay.
Part one?
Yeah.
A recent report by the intelligence community finds that the Chinese regime tried to meddle in the 2022 midterm elections.
What?
How does it work and what will happen in the 2024 election?
Joining us now is Dean Baxendell, CEO of China Democracy Fund and Optimum Publishing International.
Baxendell just published a new book, The Mosaic Effect, how the Chinese Communist Party started a hybrid war in America's backyard.
Now, there's a declassified U.S.
intelligence report that says China tried to meddle in the 2022 midterm elections in the U.S.
How seriously should we be taking this?
I think we should be taking this extremely seriously.
The CIA and the intelligence community are doing a great service for America and, quite frankly, for the free world by declassifying and making some of these reports available to the public to understand that malign state governments like Chinese Communist Party, Russia, Iran are all interfering in elections around the world.
So I would say, yes, it's extremely important that this report, this information is coming out.
On that note, the report notes that China, quote, tacitly approved efforts to try to influence a handful of midterm races involving members of both U.S.
political parties.
Those are candidates seen as anti-China.
Now, how is China able to influence elections outside of their own borders?
So, as you know, the Chinese Communist Party uses the United Front Works Department globally.
She brings up kind of an interesting point without even thinking about it.
Both candidates, both sides hate China.
Who are they trying to tip the scales for?
There are candidates who don't have a hatred of China and they don't express it.
They don't threaten China.
You know, the Stooges, the Eric Swalwell types.
Fang Fang.
They don't need to hack him, they just put Fang Fang next to him in bed.
Or any woman, I think.
Yeah, and there's this thing called the United Front.
Sounds sketchy.
Yeah, you can look it up.
It's on Wikipedia.
It's got a story about it.
Here, go to part two.
They're running operations in Canada, the United States, Mexico, the UK.
They have United Front people who ultimately control various media outlets throughout and proxy corporations, especially in Canada, where we have 56 media outlets that are either controlled directly or indirectly by the Chinese Communist Party or proxies that are attached to the United Front.
So they're using their own information within the Chinese community to change votes or persuade Chinese diaspora community members to vote in a certain way or to view a politician in a certain way that might be negative towards China.
And therefore, that is one way they would influence in terms directly in the media.
The next, of course, is social media and their use of trolls and bots around the world that continue to put out disinformation or misinformation or whatever you want to look at it and actually exacerbate points of division both on the left and the right that alienate voters and actually is social media and their use of trolls and bots around the world that continue to put Wait a minute.
it.
Thank you.
The Chinese are using Putin's playbook!
It's Chinese playbook.
No, it's Putin's playbook.
I'm not buying any of this.
This is all bullcrap.
I think we don't need Chinese helping us argue on social media.
Seriously?
Well, it might be one of those things where they're doing stuff because they think it's effective.
And it's really just a joke.
They're just fooling themselves.
Well, that cyber front, whatever it's called.
The United Front.
The United Front.
They're stealing money from the Chinese government.
They don't need any of that.
Just post one word, Trump, and then back away and see what happens.
Trump.
That's all you need.
Yeah, that's actually, that would work.
That does work.
Yeah, I can get paid for that.
All right, you don't need to listen to the last of this.
Are you sure?
I'm enjoying it so much.
Okay, go play.
And in terms of the United Front Work Department, give us a sense of how does this relate to the Chinese Communist Party?
Is this its own little category or is it backed by the government?
So, you know, the United Front actually is a department of the Chinese Communist Party.
There is over, I believe now, there is over close to 40,000 employees, so to speak, around the world that are doing influence operations, both soft power and sharp power operations inside countries around the globe to ensure that China is viewed as a positive and a great nation to do business with.
and to ultimately partner with.
Their propaganda operations, misinformation, disinformation, propaganda is just one of the many tools used by the United Front, you know, throughout the world.
You know, you can look at other elements of the United Front, including, you know, direct political influence operations in terms of bribes and or money that's being donated directly into.
Donated.
For instance, we call them writings here in Canada or directly into constituencies that may influence a politician and how he views a particular issue that may be pro or against the Chinese Communist Party's ambitions.
Donate to no agenda.
Yeah, this is, you know, OK, fine.
fine.
All All of this influence of the internet, no, none of it.
Social media is just a place where you go and yell because you're hooked on it.
Because, yeah, people are hooked on it and it's unhealthy.
It's like they're hooked to their phone.
The phone, same thing.
You know, you brought something up on the last show or the show before that about me stopping smoking weed and how Mimi thought that was great.
And a lot of other people chimed in saying yes.
And what's interesting is I have received at least 10 emails, 10, that say, oh wow, I would like to quit smoking weed too.
How did you do it?
This is an unexpected response from our audience.
Yeah.
So I would like to give a brief overview of how I did it.
I would be interested in myself even though I don't know why I care.
Well, one, I had a small incentive because my periodontist called and said, Adam, we're going to operate on you.
Stop putting fire in your mouth.
It makes it harder for me to operate and harder for you to recover.
So I had an incentive.
I've had lots of incentives in the past.
But I quit cold turkey.
This is the number one.
Quit cold turkey.
Number two.
I vaped.
In fact, not even nicotine, just a vape.
Mainly for the oral fixation, the process of having something in my hand.
I found that to be the hardest.
What am I going to do?
I'm missing that motion.
I also got a Geek Vape, that's a brand, which gives you more to do because you have to build the coil yourself and put the cotton in.
It's like pipes mostly.
Yes, yes, very precisely.
So the part of, for me, weed was the process of rolling.
I could roll a joint with one hand behind my back, I mean, while driving, no problem.
So having the process of doing something.
I also had a project to work on because you become very productive, very quickly, within a day.
And so I set up a Trillium database, just for something to do.
I set up a Trillium Day.
So have something, have a project, and final advice, have a party.
I think ship in a bottle might be more appropriate for most people.
Puzzle, ship in a bottle, have a project.
Lego.
Lego.
Yeah, Lego.
Have a partner to keep you in check.
Because if you're alone, that's the worst.
If you're alone, then the devil will come and get you.
Be like, well, no one's going to see him.
Just have one talk.
And take it one day at a time, then one week and one month.
And now it's been 14 months.
14 months?
I didn't realize it was that long already.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It was Thanksgiving last year.
Huh.
So, yeah.
Longer than I've been off the phone.
Together we're a catch.
We're great guys together.
Alright, sticking with quitting.
Before we take our break here, something very interesting happening for the holiday season.
Yeah, you thought Ozempic was good.
No, it's holiday season!
With the holiday season in full swing, some people who take drugs used for weight loss, such as Ozempic, ...are planning a pause on their prescriptions ahead of celebrations.
Ariel Reshef is back with the details and what to know.
Good morning, Ariel.
Good morning again, Robin.
As we know, many have seen dramatic results taking this class of medications for weight loss, but some say they need a break for the holidays, whether it's for a little indulgence or cost savings.
Doctors caution it's a trade-off.
I found this to be interesting.
Well, I find it to be ridiculous.
I thought the whole idea was you take the assembly so you can you can chow down.
No, no.
I think the reason why people are stopping is because otherwise you're throwing up all day.
You know, it's like you go to have Christmas dinner.
I got to go take a dump.
I got to go puke.
I don't feel good.
It is the season for holiday feasting, and now some using medications like Ozempic, Munjaro, and Wegovy for weight loss say they're taking a vacation from the drugs.
Unpopular opinion in the semaglutide world.
Julie Stolkelly, who lost 38 pounds, says she's forgoing the appetite-suppressing semaglutide in favor of feeling less uncomfortably full and fielding fewer questions during festive meals.
She skipped her dose during Thanksgiving.
What I noticed was I was still able to eat the things that I really wanted to indulge a little bit.
I just had to be really conscious about how I was feeling, what I was eating, how fast I was eating it.
For Kaylee Svensson, who lost 90 pounds on Moonjaro, cutting back this time of year is a financial decision, a trade-off to put presents under the tree.
It's something that is financially extraordinarily expensive for our family to afford because our insurance isn't covering it.
If I can make a box last six weeks instead of four, that will save me a couple hundred.
I think this may be part of the ploy to get this thing on Medicare.
Look at these poor people.
Oh, yeah.
In order to put presents under the tree.
Yeah, they have to sacrifice.
Family to afford because our insurance isn't covering it.
If I can make a box last six weeks instead of four, that'll save me a couple hundred extra dollars.
Kaylee says her prescription cost her more than $1,000 for four single-use doses.
If I can stretch it for 10 days instead of every week, that helps me push off, you know, the expense a little bit.
Doctors caution pausing the treatments can come with some side effects, like nausea, increased appetite, and weight gain.
If a patient skips their medication for one to two weeks, there is a potential for them to have some increased side effects.
They might not see those improvements in their hunger and appetite.
Ah, ah!
Here's another part.
Don't stop taking it!
And so they'll inevitably eat more, and that may contribute to some weight gain.
And with all of the temptations this time of year, doctors say this may not be the ideal time to pause treatment if you're hoping to maintain your progress, but a week or so shouldn't set you too far back.
Guys, and there are temptations this time of year.
Oh my God.
How many people are on this stuff?
So I do have two quick boots on the ground notices important for us to know.
I incorrectly stated that semaglutide is out of patent.
Wrong, says James.
He says, Semaglutide and all other GLP-1 agonists are not generic.
The patent does not expire until July 17, 2026.
The compounded GLP-1 agonists you spoke of are reverse-engineered formulas.
There are no generics of Ozempic, Trulicity, or any other GLP-1 agonists because they are still patented.
The different names of Novo Nordisk products are just branding for the same drug, different doses.
Yes, we got that.
And then a second boots on the ground note, and this is about the cost.
I have a client who's just started taking the compounded versions of semaglutide.
We have a pharmacist in our vast boots on the ground army.
They add vitamin B12 to it, which qualifies it as a new drug.
My client is getting it from a compounding pharmacy in Pennsylvania.
So that's the workaround.
You get the semi-glutide, you throw some B12 in, new drug, it's okay.
The compound inversion comes in a vial and the patient must use a standard syringe to draw it.
That's why people are overdosing, sure.
The compounded version was prescribed by her PCP, primary care physician I guess, and it's only $250 a month instead of the typical $1,000.
The drug sells in every other country in the world for $30.
Yeah!
The main reason for the increased price is the PBMs, Pharmacy Benefit Managers.
Do you remember this term?
Yep.
This is what Trump went after.
Yeah, Trump went after him, and supposedly Biden did something about it, but there's no evidence of it.
Biden talks a big game, but none of this ever happens.
This is like Biden talking a big game about climate change and the rest, and then we have more oil production than ever.
He's just full of crap, this guy.
You know, it's a theme.
All of the pharmacy benefit managers are owned by pharmacies like CVS owns OptumRx.
They approve or disapprove the prescribed drug for coverage, then the PBM jacks up the price to the patient while sharing the profits with the parent company.
Nice.
Ultimately, what a deal!
Yeah, I'm all in.
Ultimately, it's Congress that's to blame and that's not going to change because of all the lobbying.
I mean bribes.
Oh damn, greedy bastards.
Okay, very good.
That's your boots on the ground.
You're screwed.
You're screwed.
And you will be?
Forever.
Forever.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
In the morning, to you, the man who put the C in the cheating machine, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore!
We are well into the Christmas holiday here, Christmas week, which means the trolls will be off and gallivanting about.
Let's have a check anyway.
Oh no!
We are well into the Christmas holiday here, Christmas week, which means the trolls will be off and gallivanting about.
Oh no!
1741.
Let's have a check anyway.
Come on.
Oh, no.
Oh, no. 1741.
This is not good.
This is a very low troll count.
We have low T. That's actually not bad.
We have... I just want to say we have... 1800 is the number we're shoot for on Thursday.
Okay.
We have low T. Today is Thursday.
We have low T, though.
We do have low T. Today's Thursday.
Today's Thursday, I think.
Who knows?
Today's Thursday, so 1750 is fine.
Okay.
Whew!
Thank goodness.
Thank goodness.
Well, you can join the trolls in the troll room, trollroom.io, also known as noagendastream.com.
It's a live stream 24-7.
It's pretty cool.
We've got a lot of podcasts there, a lot of people doing live podcasts, which you can enjoy there with the streaming audio.
We do that on the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged.
Yes.
May I give you props, by the way?
For the Dvorak Horror.
You predicted some kind of weird buyout with, what was it, Disney?
Discovery.
Discovery, yeah.
And the next day, they announced that there's some merger or something.
Yeah, well, no, they're in talks with Paramount.
Yeah, but you called it.
I did, it was astonishing.
You had some weird insider transaction that was like, that was like, there was a screwball one too.
It was weird.
It was very strange.
Yeah.
You have to go back, listen to the show.
So yeah.
So you can hear DH Unplugged on Tuesdays.
Uh, you guys go live what eight o'clock, uh, eight o'clock Eastern, nine o'clock Eastern.
Can't remember what time, what time is it for you when you start?
Seven, it's ten o'clock Eastern.
No, oh yeah, 10 Eastern, there you go.
Yeah, I'm at 7, 7 o'clock.
Yeah, it's fun.
I always love listening to you guys.
You know nothing about Bitcoin, by the way, so stay away from that.
We know nothing about Bitcoin, we just don't like it.
You don't like it, I know, I know, that's very clear.
So you can also, and this is what we recommend, is get a modern podcast app, you can find it at podcastapps.com, because not just for our show, But there are many podcasts that you may like that will suddenly just disappear if you're using Apple or Spotify.
Spotify is taking away podcasts on a daily basis.
They just cancel people.
And I haven't tracked Apple, but they do the same thing.
They get a call, something's not right, whatever.
And you know, this is gone.
And that will not happen with a modern podcast app.
In addition to that, you'll get a notification within 90 seconds of us publishing the show that it's been updated.
We have chapter images, we have transcripts, which you can search in, which is very handy.
It's like, oh, there's something in that show I want to find.
There's all these benefits that you get and it's completely open source and a bunch of cool people make it.
And I want to give a benefit out to one of our longtime producers.
And I don't want to give his email out, but I'm going to do it.
Patrick Maycom.
Sir Patrick Maycom.
$50 every show forever.
And he's in New York, I think.
Sir Patrick Maycom.
Yes.
Note, I got laid off after 10 years from my tech job because he quit.
He quit his donation.
I sent him a note.
I said, what happened?
I got laid off 10 years from my tech job.
I resumed donating again when I get a new gig.
Right before Christmas!
He was there forever!
Last day is early January.
We'll spend the holiday working on my resume.
Let me know if anyone needs someone with 10 plus years of code experience, 20 plus years of front end, plus 8 years of back end development, plus 5 years of blockchain, 3 plus 3 It's of something else I can't figure out what he's talking about.
Yada yada yada.
Keep up the great work!
Email PatrickMacom, P-A-T-R-I-C-K-M-A-C-O-M at gmail.com.
I have two pieces of advice for, and I think he's a sir, is he not?
I think he's Sir Patrick Macom.
Oh yeah, he's probably a baron.
Two pieces of advice, A, put in three years of AI experience, please.
Yeah, just throw it in.
Just do it, just throw it in.
Two, consider ImageMakersInc.com, that's ImageMakersInc with a K, dot com.
I'm not digging my job.
This is a Value for Value podcast.
Speaking of Value for Value, I heard something that you have not promoted yet on this show, which maybe you felt it was out of place, but since the success of TooManyEggs.com, there is now a new book from Gateview Publishing Which I believe is titled the ABCs of Stock Investing?
Yeah, you can get the PDF there at gateviewpublishing.com Which is similar to TooManyEggs.com.
Explain what it is, because I like your projects.
It's just a kid's book.
It's a kid's book with ABCs, and each one of the ABCs is some sort of investment term for kids.
Yeah, with illustrations.
Yeah, illustrations.
No, it's cute.
I like your little publishing empire you guys are putting together over there.
And I would recommend, by the way, since we're actually in negotiations with another publisher for the egg book, for them to take over the distribution rights.
If that happens, I'm pretty sure unless I can talk him out of it, the PDF will end up going away.
So I recommend, which I think is, I have my arguments for why you should PDF all these products.
But you know what, this sounds suspiciously like an exit strategy, John C. Dvorak.
No.
No.
And so it's a, it's a, uh, it's a tax strategy.
Oh.
And so anyway, TooManyEggs.com, the PDF file, grab a copy just for your own good.
That's too bad because I was thinking if, can we not do our value for value book and have that be our exit?
We're going to do it.
It's on the list.
We got to do three books next year.
But can we exit?
Can we then have an exit strategy?
Can I, can I do my, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Can I do my, can I do my, I was an MTV guy book.
Can we do that?
Oh, absolutely!
Held hostage by my hair?
You know, stuff like that?
Oh!
Great title!
Thank you!
I want to exit, John!
We need to be planning for the future!
Just a thought.
Well, with these kind of donations, which, for example, we had this promotion I bitched about earlier in the show.
The promotion was great.
The 16-18, what is it called?
The Golden Ratio.
Golden Ratio.
A total of three donations for $16.18, which is, you know, a little less than, you know, a typical promotion.
Definitely doesn't keep up with the PhD program.
It was, no, but yeah, you know, let's face it, people don't like math.
They don't like the golden ratio.
They don't like the golden ratio.
That's okay.
We've had other flops.
The golden ratio gets no respect.
So we have this whole concept.
I actually went on a Twitter Spaces the other day.
Oh God, that was rough.
You went on what?
I did a Twitter Spaces.
Spaces?
Spaces.
What is Spaces?
It's like a chat room on voice with a whole bunch of people on Twitter.
And then I had to install the app.
That's gotta be dreadful.
Well, you... Yeah, it is.
You have to install the app, you know, then you get called up on stage.
Oh, God.
Anyway, so I was explaining value for value, which is always fun.
I said, we've been doing this for 16 years, so it works, people.
Get with the program.
Listen to our donation segment.
People love us.
Then it's about the feedback loop.
You gotta read the notes.
You gotta tell people.
You gotta thank people.
It's very smart.
Then it's not just money.
It's time, talent, or treasure.
That's the important part.
Because we technically have made more by spending less.
You know, building websites.
Can you imagine if we had to build our own website?
Yeah, exactly.
Or hire artists to do the art?
Well, you let me write to it, or how about a combo of that?
What if you had a guy who built a place where artists could upload, and okay, so sometimes things go wrong and it breaks, but Sir Paul Couture, not only did he fix noagendaartgenerator.com, but he upgraded it.
Can you imagine the meeting we'd have to have with our provider?
Hey, we would like a refresh of noagendaartgenerator.com.
They'd be piling on the bills, look at this, the meetings.
That's a million dollar site.
If it was a government site, it'd be six million dollars.
It has to have meetings, all kinds of horrible things we don't like, and so what do we get?
We get a beautiful new site from Sir Paul Couture.
Well, you know what's interesting about the site?
I'll say this.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, his original site was fine.
Because I'm one of those, it's fine.
Yeah, like a woman.
And so he upgraded it to the headless Drupal, or whatever the last one was, and it was just such an improvement, it was unbelievable.
And so then he goes, I said, oh, what do you got?
Why would you improve that?
Of course, you know me, I'm the one with the Dvorak.org slash NA and I think that's fine.
You have Blink tags and RedBall.gif.
I don't have Blink tags or cats running across the screen, but...
I could imagine.
Yes, close.
So then he upgrades to this ridiculously modern site.
It's like, it's beyond, I mean, this guy should be working for, I don't know who, but IBM or some big money out there.
I mean, it's so modern.
It is, it's very modern.
I mean, the other one was modern and the one before that was modern, but to keep up And make it modern on top of modern.
And if you notice little things like the artist icon is in there.
The artist profile page shows up in the artwork.
It just has all kinds of metadata.
Ooh, that's expensive.
Metadata.
It's phenomenal, and it's a little slow, but I think that's just, you know, optimizing.
He'll be good, he'll optimize.
It has leaderboards, it has all the artist profiles, you load up the page, it shows you how many images, 31.1 thousand images, how many artists, 1,400 artists.
It's just great.
I didn't know we had that many artists.
Yeah.
And thank you, Sir Paul Couture.
We really appreciate it.
If you see Paul, you know, hug him.
Give him a hug.
Give him a big hug.
He needs it.
Give him a hug.
Yeah.
You know, it took him a couple weeks, you know.
He had the crash.
It took him almost a month.
Yeah.
But you know what's beautiful about it?
We just like, oh, okay, that's fine.
Because it's value for value.
It's like, you know, we didn't have to get mad.
I didn't have to be calling John like, you hired the guy.
You fix it.
You fix it.
Yeah, that's actually what happens.
Especially with psychos like you as the boss.
Oh yeah, now they're calling me a psycho.
Okay, there you go.
This reminds me of, this is Adam back in the day at Meteo.
No, whatever, it was Pot Show originally.
Okay, here we go.
He's real casual, smoking dope.
He's just, you know, he's not in the office that much, but he's there once in a while.
He's very lackadaisical.
People should put in a full day's work.
I don't see a big deal about coming in on time.
You just got to get in there, do what you have to do, and then get out.
So one day we decided to go, he decides to go in front of the office as people are coming in late, streaming in late, with him standing there going, ah, I'm glad you could make it.
Smoking dope, I was still smoking dope.
Oh, I'm glad you could make it.
Ah, did you check the time?
What time is it?
Oh, good.
I'm glad you could come in.
I'm glad you came in.
Just giving him grief.
And I was standing there with you.
We would stand there together.
I was flabbergasted.
It got to the point where people just showed up at noon.
I'm like, come on.
Come on, people.
What do we have an office for?
This is not COVID.
It was way before COVID.
Anyway.
By the way, the mention of the art generator.
Brought it to its knees once again.
Of course, of course.
NoahJennerArtGenerator.com, thank you Sir Paul Couture, and thank you to Dame Kenny Benn, who brought us the outstanding artwork for episode 16-17.
We titled that, Twerkin' Russians, which we both thought that was a good title, and the Ho Ho Ho Ho Zempick Santa Claus.
That got lots of traction.
People thought that was hilarious.
It was hilarious.
And it's not often that you get such a compact, beautiful, just a nugget of beauty.
It was a takeoff, it was a parody, it was well illustrated.
The whole thing was professional.
Again, something we could never have afforded.
Can you imagine, hey, we got this title is twerking Russians, can you whip up an image for us that by the way has nothing to do with twerking Russians?
Oh what, you didn't listen to the show?
No, because what our artists do, they're listening to the show and they're doing the stuff on the fly.
It's amazing.
It is a true testament to value for value and we are incredibly grateful to all of our artists.
Someone said, you're being performative!
What does that mean?
In this regard?
On the last show I said, we'd like to thank.
I said, that's performative!
Just say thank you!
That's a good point.
Don't politicians do that?
We'd like to think.
Yeah, if you say it, we'd like to think.
Well, I've got this to say about that.
Yeah, that's another one.
Thank you, artists.
Thank all of you, and especially Dame Kenny Menn.
We appreciate you so much.
Now let's go to the treasure part of the Value for Value model.
This is where we thank our executive and associate executive producers, and everybody who supported us with the monetary donations up to, or down to, $50.
This is really the stuff that keeps us going, and we start off with a, let's see, we have a handwritten note here from Emily Andrews, and she is in Salina, Texas, and it come up with a whopping $14.65.
I'm loading her note, which is handwritten, and she says, Dear John and Adam, I last donated with a shout out, with a short thank you, and you guys seemed It seemed something that the note wasn't longer.
Oh, it seemed down that the note wasn't longer.
Okay, so she decided to write a longer note.
I'm writing the why.
I originally heard about you guys from MoFax.
I really appreciate listening to you guys over COVID, hearing about K&C Cattle and getting some laughs in about the state of affairs instead of agonizing over it.
Yes, that's what we do.
The check is a percentage of my annual bonus from my employer.
Wow, that's some tithing right there.
That's the way to do it.
Ooh, what are we drinking?
Polar seltzer.
Boring.
Bring something good next show.
I consider your show to be a ministry and appreciate your genuine efforts to shepherd the divine flock God has brought to your podcast.
Wow.
For giggles, I listen to podcasts 1 to 20.
That's episode 1 to 20.
Adam, I can hear the evidence of the work God has done in you.
God bless you both, your sister in Christ, Emily Andrews.
He's got the a-hole he was.
That's right.
It's so true.
Notice I don't cuss.
I've stopped that.
Yeah, well that's, yeah.
And in fact, people have noticed that you're cussing more.
I, because I think there's a cuss.
A cuss balance.
A cuss median that we have to achieve to have the proper cuss balance.
You have so, there's so many.
I don't, I didn't cuss on today's show at all.
No, you didn't.
And I usually just cuss for effect.
You cussed as part of your vocabulary.
That was the difference.
Yeah, and I did it a lot actually.
Yeah, I did.
I have people emailing saying, thank you, now I can listen around my kids again.
Except for that clip you brought.
Thank you, Emily.
The kids understand cussing, generally speaking.
Good luck with that.
Europe.
Oh, I'm sorry.
A dude named Ralph comes up next, and he's in with 550, which is nice, in Miami, Florida.
Dear John and Adam, thank you for the outstanding work you do on No Agenda.
The magical combination of you two and the incredible No Agenda producers make this show the best podcast in the universe.
Inspired by something Wise John said, I reviewed my donation history and I happily discovered that the Ph.D.
contribution also qualified me for title of Baron.
I would like to be known as the Baron dude named... By the way, just to stop right here, there's a number of people and there's a list of them on the NoAgendaRings.com site who've gotten their... got the Ph.D.
during the promotion.
This promotion's over.
And they've never sent in the details of where they want the diploma sent or anything else.
Please go and do that.
Before the printer breaks.
Inspired by blah, blah, blah.
I'd like to be known as a barren dude named Ralph of the Suburban South Florida.
I would like mojitos and lechon asado Cuban style roasted pig for the round table.
I got it.
I made two Christmas donations today to share $5.50 from a work bonus.
Again, a work bonus.
Beautiful.
Work bonus, no agenda.
And $16.18 for a show number donation.
I humbly request Jobs Karma to help me.
No, it was for a show number donation and not the magic circle.
I humbly request Jobs Karma to help me as I embark on the next chapter of my career.
Respectfully, dude named Ralph.
Magic Circle.
It's called the Golden Ratio, not the Magic Circle.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
And we got Lacey B. in Lake Mills, Wisconsin.
333-33, favorite donation number.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you, John and Adam, and to your better halves, the back office, your loved ones, and all of Noah Jenner Nation, and jingle bingle to the OBDM crossover crowd.
This donation puts me over the mark to qualify as a Dame.
The title, Dame Lucy, will suffice.
I talk too much in real life, so I keep this note short.
Thank you for your courage, love, and light to all.
Lacey B., Lake Mills, Wisconsin.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, Lacey B. All right, so I have to, I finally, since I hit it just right, I have to take a quick look at the note list.
Yeah, keep talking in the mic, though, because you're dropping out.
I got Tim Turbo. Turbo Tim. Turbo Tim. 333.33 and I don't have a location for him.
But I do have a note which has been Tim Turbo.
A handwritten note that on a piece of three hole punch student paper.
In the morning, John and Adam, I've finally gotten my rear in gear, and here I sent you to some much-deserved treasure.
Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
You've been de-douched.
I just realized that episode 1617 adds up to 33, and I'll be 33 on the 22nd of this month.
I knew it was time!
Nice.
So, that's interesting.
We could have caught that too, 16, 17.
Yeah.
In another way, it wouldn't have made a difference.
Mike, the Woodwatch Guy, introduced me to your show about three years ago.
I worked for a forklift repair company in Detroit for over eight years as a mobile forklift and diesel engine repair technician.
That's a good job.
Yes.
They kept getting on my ass about my mask.
So I wrote in big letters, you're a slave across the front and wore it proudly.
To every customer location as I went from Spark Conversations to Spew Truth.
Good for you, man.
That's ballsy.
I quit after refusing to take the jab and started my own small forklift and diesel truck repair business, then moved to Capic, Michigan.
The plan to go electric is hilarious because our world literally functions because of diesel.
The EPA has had an American... Hold on a minute.
...has a hard on.
Oh, hard on.
For a diesel, but not in other countries.
Anyone who hears DPF, DEF, and engine de-rate will be triggered by this.
It's all the crap they make you put in the engine.
Of course.
Yeah, pig urine.
Yeah, pig urine.
This, yeah, unbelievable.
This is my first start to knighthood, and if I have any questions about the diesel industry, feel free to email me.
That's nice.
I bet you're doing very well in your own company.
John is pronounced K-Pak.
As Adam just told me.
Please send the spark plug.
Oh, he sent two spark plug keychains.
He sent these little trinkets.
I have to say they're pretty cute.
I didn't get mine.
Because I have it.
I have yours.
People send them to me and they have to wait until they accumulate and they'll send you a box.
And so the whole package smelled like a repair garage.
And I sniffed, I said, hey Chase, sniff this.
Wait a minute.
This guy is a repairman, there's no doubt about it.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me give you a little tip.
If John C. Dvorak ever comes up to you and says, hey sniff this, walk away.
Walk away.
Yes.
I thought you'd like that.
Yes.
Well, that's cool, man.
Thank you so much.
And I also want to thank everyone who sent all these beautiful things to the P.O.
Box.
I got fudge.
I got the coffee.
I got the coffee from those... What's that coffee place?
Gigawatt guys.
Yeah, the fudge... Okay, the fudge came... I don't have the note here on the fudge.
I got the fudge.
The fudge came in kind of as a mess, but I have to say this, if you can dig through there and find the peanut butter divinity...
Oh, okay.
It borderline, border, it's borderline unbelievable.
Yeah, I believe it.
It like makes a Reese's peanut butter, you would never have another one.
Yeah, google it.
It's just, they nailed it.
Nailed it.
The rest of the stuff is good, but these, the peanut, whoever did, I'd like to get that recipe.
I got Sir Scoops, I got your big box of, uh, of your, your pirate, uh, your pirate show.
I got, um, You got stuff from Diesel?
No, I didn't get stuff from D's.
I did get some- Death!
Death!
Death the band!
No, I- No- Oh, yes!
Yes!
Yes!
That's who I got it from.
Art.
Yeah, art and stickers and magnets and all kinds of stuff.
And I also got, um, I got a huge pack from the anonymous, uh, air traffic controller.
Oh, goodness.
Oh, goodness.
I don't think you should have sent me that stuff.
These got stuff about C-130s shooting lasers down to the ground.
Really?
Yeah.
At the FAA, you know, send out memos like, hey, you know, if you guys have every right to tell the C-130 with the laser to not shoot the laser.
All right.
Thanks.
I got a pastor who says, thank you for not cussing.
And got Lindsey who says, it's been a joy to listen to the podcast with my 11 year old.
Now it's not as explicit as it used to be.
Thanks, John, for that clip.
Except for the dog butts.
Well, that's funny.
That's funny.
Just so many things.
Thank you all so much.
It was amazing to go to the PO Box.
I couldn't believe all the stuff that everybody has sent.
So nice.
And also thank you to Ryan Powell from Edgewood, Washington.
333.
But wait, one more thing.
I don't know, did we ever thank the guy who sent us the flight, the Air Force One jackets?
I'm sure we did.
It was a long time ago.
That is a dynamite jacket, by the way.
His son got that.
His son got those for us.
Yeah.
Ryan Powell, 333, says, for my wife's 50th birthday on the 18th, so it's a switcheroo.
I'm still a douchebag, but Christmas is coming soon.
Thanks, guys.
So he doesn't want to be deduced.
He just wants it for his wife, and he doesn't give us her name.
So we'll just say Mrs. Powell.
Mrs. Powell.
Mrs. Powell.
So that's what we'll do.
Eric Wilka in Auburn, Alabama.
IATM Citizen Adam and Citizen John.
I just had a pop-up.
Hold on a second.
A pop-up?
Yeah, a pop-up.
Outstanding show, he continues.
Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, Sir Eric.
That's a great note for $333.
How can you- I haven't had a pop-up since 1988.
It's a system pop-up.
Oh.
Time to reboot for more freedom on your computer.
Sir Nick, in Waterford, Michigan, 333-33.
I'm just trying to keep my Delta medallion, so I'm charging this value-for-value donation to my Amex.
Please give this single and ready-to-mingle producer some swazzle-nuff karma and a Trains Good, Planes Bad.
All right, well, we don't actually have a swazzle-nuff, but I did get something together for you.
All aboard, Trains Good, Planes Bad!
69!
69, dude!
You've got karma.
That's the only source of love I know of.
The last executive producer is Ara Dadarian.
We haven't heard from him for a while.
No, Sir Ara.
Sir Ara Dadarian.
And he's in Trabuco Canyon, California at 333 and he's got the best message.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
That's a good one, thank you.
Ivan Babik, or Ivan, but I'll say Ivan, in Astoria, Queens, Astoria, New York, $250, our associate executive producer.
No notes, so he gets a double up.
You've got...
Yack Christmas karma for all.
Transfair in Valparaiso, Indiana, comes in with $223 and says, Boy, he wants to jingles.
He wants Space Force 2 to the head.
Fauci wheeze.
Yak Christmas karma for all.
Merry Christmas, boys.
Please put me on the birthday list for the 21st as I celebrate my 38th trip around the sun.
I figured it would be a good time to become a Baron.
Accounting below, please change my title to Sir Tooth Fairy Baron of the Region.
Thank you for all you do, Sir Tooth Fairy.
Space Force!
You've got...
Karma.
And we have another no-noter, Christopher Burke, St.
Paul, Minnesota, to $12.34.
So, for you, also a Double Up Karma.
You've got... Karma.
$200 for Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
She says jobs karma.
For a remarkable resume that hits people in the mouth, go to enemiesjamakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
That's ImageMakersInc.com or just find Linda Lepatkin under the show's producer list.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs!
Let's vote for jobs!
And our final Associate Executive Producer is from Stormin N. Norman in Trumbull, Connecticut, 200.
Please wish my wife Dame Roundstone a happy 60th coming up December 30th.
Producer Anne Rhonda Pierre.
We met at our radio station in Connecticut in 1985.
Four kids and two grandkids later, we're still growing strong from Stormin and Norman in the morning.
Mornings on WEBE 108.
Oh, hold on.
Hold on a sec.
Stormin Norman!
Stormin Norman Yeah, you got a free jingle out of it, brother.
There you go.
That's our execs and our associate executive producers.
Thank you so much.
We appreciate it.
These credits are real.
Ask Storm and Norman, he knows all about it.
You can use them anywhere credits are recognized.
You can put them on your LinkedIn, put them on your resume, even put them on your IMDB account, which is, you know, the Internet Movie Database.
Oh, I'm sorry, you don't have an account?
You do now, because there's lots of executive and associate executive producers who are listed in there because it's an official title.
And it's good for your life.
Thank you for producing episode 1618.
John's going to take us through the 50s.
Starting with Sir Sean McCune, 170.39, and he is in the Allegheny Valley.
Mark Middleton in Safety Harbor, Florida, 120.
Dan Malley in Fremont, California, right down the street, 113.
Scott LaPierre in South Glastonbury, Connecticut.
1, 1, 2, 3, 5.
Um... I think he needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
1-1-2-3-5 is a Fibonacci donation.
Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas, 88-88.
Sir Brough in Greenfield Park, New York, 88-33.
And he says, please break for a night.
Major jobs karma needed.
We do break for nights.
Both my wife and I are attempting to gain new employment, sell our home and move to the free state of New Hampshire away from New York with a newborn.
Much appreciated, Jensen.
Yes, we'll do that in a moment, Sir Brough.
Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, 8008.
This is a boobs donation.
Boobs are the reason we blush, he writes.
He says the show 1615 small boob donation slogan was missing.
Not that I know of.
Sir Road Dog in Twin Falls, Idaho, 8008.
Aaron Weiberg in Roberts, Wisconsin, 8006, that's lopsided boobs.
Parker Fulce in Roswell, New Mexico, yes, 7777.
Yes.
Marshall Bennett in Hartfield, Virginia, 7545.
He's now a knight.
Yes, and he... Knight Meeser, ball peen the hammer.
And he wants...
Youngling Logger and Sir Berserker's Head.
He's there.
You can grab it yourself.
I'm not gonna rip it off.
Tina Bishop in Mission BC.
Mission BC, Canada.
75.
Needs a couple of de-douchings.
You've been de-douched.
That's one for her, and then we go to Eduardo Bishop, also in Mission BC, $75.
Another de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Kyle Potchiak, Potchiasque, Potchiasque, Potchiasque, I don't know.
Hannibal, Missouri, 70.
Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, our buddy in Chicago, 6-0-0-6, small boobs, with Kevin McLaughlin, 6-0-0-6, with a little jingle, or whatever you want to call this.
Boobs, the eighth wonder of the world.
I don't know about that.
Okay, okay.
Depends on the boobs, I think.
Tony Morrow in Orlando, Florida, 6006.
Axel Paul in Lindeweidel, Deutschland, Lindeweidel, 60.
SirJubJub in Elkton, Florida, uh, 57.
That's a birthday donation.
Dean Roker, 5510.
Herbert Garrett in Raleigh, North Carolina, 5510.
Brian Rogers in Medford, New York.
John, you seem to be an... He writes.
We don't read these notes normally.
John, you seem to be an expert on native ads.
I find it interesting that every time you open a can of polar all-water natural seltzer, you talk about it for exactly 30 seconds!
Coincidence?
I think not.
You taking deals on the side, man?
I wish.
Right?
You have cases of this stuff.
Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois.
50.
These are all 50s now.
We're gonna do 50s name and location.
Starting with Gadget Freak and followed by Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington.
Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia.
Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado.
Scott Lavender, our buddy in Montgomery, Texas.
Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
Fletcher Scaife, or Scaife, in Williston, North Dakota.
Andrew Gusick, or Sir Andrew, to be exact, in Greensboro, North Carolina.
Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey.
Susan Hunt in Leola, Pennsylvania, needs a de-douching on behalf of her dad, Mark Anderson.
You've been de-douched.
It's not on behalf of us.
For her dad's, for her, we can't say.
Nicholas Rudovich in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.
Daniel, Sir Daniel Leboy in Bath, Michigan.
And last on our list, our favorite, Sir Johnny Bananas in Tinley Park, Illinois.
I want to thank all these folks for making the show 1618, the Magic Circle podcast a reality.
And thank you to everyone who came in under $50.
I see you $49.99.
It's the reason we will never read anything below $50.
That is guaranteed anonymity.
Some people require that.
And thank you, those of you who are on our sustaining donations, which are small amounts but are regular automatic donations.
You can make your own up.
Lots of people like $11.11 or $33.33.
You can do it whenever you want.
We really appreciate it.
I have a couple notes to read before we get into our birthdays and our meetups.
Two night notes, because we have some nightings.
This is from Bernie Glynn.
He says, I nearly choked on my mac and cheese recently when I discovered that you clowns would honor a knighthood status if I paid an Australian dollars!
Well, easy with the mac and cheese, man, since I've paid well more than 800 US dollars over the years, which calculates to $1,194.
I hearby claim knighthood status.
Yes, that's correct.
If this makes me a black knight, it doesn't.
I would like to be known as Sir Bastoid of Blairmount.
It's not going to be a black knight.
That's only if we mess it up.
Yes, Sir Bastoid, Knight of Blairmount.
I've set up a regular donation to you guys to ease my guilt.
Please deduce me.
You've been deduced.
At the round table, I only ask that you both be there at my investiture ceremony for the sizzling repartee.
Yes, we'll be there, Bernie Glynn.
And a note from Chris Palmos, who says, thanks for all you do keeping us sane.
I'd like to be anointed Sir Feta of the armpit of Eastern Ontario.
Request, Metaxa Seven Star and a Century Sam blunt.
Thanks from Chris.
Chris.
Chris.
Seven stars not that easy to come by.
Is it Chris or Christ?
Do you think it's Chris Palmos?
Or do you think it goes by Christ?
I think it goes by Chris.
And then a very happy note.
I got this because I listened to the Dorflverse podcast.
Sir TJ the Wrathful has a new human resource on the way.
But here's the kicker, John.
He reversed his vasectomy.
And it worked.
It does work sometimes.
Yeah.
I think he reversed it because, you know, he was afraid of getting the lesbian face.
So thank you all.
Thank you all very much for supporting the No Agenda Show episode 1,618.
We appreciate you, execs and associate execs.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
It's your birthday, birthday.
Ryan Powell wishes his wife a happy birthday.
She turned 50 on the 18th day.
Courtney Scarlett Bee, Chicago Kate, and Gitmo FEMA Region 5 wish Sir Spooky a happy birthday.
Sir Spooky celebrated the 19th.
Jub-Jub celebrated yesterday.
Sir Tooth Fairy turns 38 today.
Tim Turbo will be 33 to, uh, let me see, tomorrow.
Vicon of Hamilton and the Two Penny celebrates on the 23rd.
Stormin and Norman wishes his wife Dame Roundstone a big happy one, turns 60 on the 30th.
And TJ says happy birthday to Sir Chris Adamson.
Happy birthday to everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
As you heard earlier, we have two title changes today.
The title changes go to Sir Tooth Fairy, who becomes Sir Tooth Fairy, Baron of the Region, and Dude Named Ralph becomes Baron Dude Named Ralph of Suburban South Florida, thanks to your additional support in $1,000 to the Best Podcast in the Universe.
We appreciate that.
And I almost forgot the jobs, Karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
We had that emergency jobs, Karma, that our knight and dame needed.
Now we have one dame and three knights to go here, so let's get out your blades.
Here you go, the regular one.
That's a nice one.
I like that jewel on the end there.
It's kind of cool-looking.
Link speed!
Come on up, Bernie Glynn, Chris Palmos, Marshall Bennett, all of you are about to enter that very exclusive club of the Knights and Danes of the Noah Jenner Round Table.
I am very proud to pronounce the K-D as Dame Lacey.
Sir Bastroid, Knight of Blairmount, Sir Feta of the Armpit of Eastern Ontario, and Sir Ball-Peen the Hammer.
For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, we have Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Metaxa, Seven Star and a Century, Sam Blunt, Mojitos and Lechon Asado, Wingling Lager and Sir Berserker's Head.
Along with that, of course, we have Rubinous Women and Rosé, Gayson, Sake, Vodka, Manila Bong, Hinson Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Esports, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Pressed Milk and Pablum, and the Mutton and the Mead!
And while you're being very gluttonous and all of that, go to NoAgendaRings.com.
That's where you can look at the enemy.
Anybody can go there.
You can go there anytime you want.
Take a look at those handsome knight and dame rings.
They are signet rings, which means if you hit someone in the mouth, it'll leave a lasting mark.
Or you could use the wax That we send along with it to seal and make your official correspondence look very official.
I love getting the letters and envelopes in the PO box that are sealed by the night ring, so I get a kick out of that.
And so will your friends and family.
I think you're very cool.
And remember to give us your ring size as a ring sizing guide at noagenderrings.com along with a place for us to send it.
And thank you all for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
We appreciate it.
No agenda meetups.
Hands down, the companion to the podcast is meeting up with your fellow slaves of Gitmo Nation, the human resources all around the world.
You can find them at noagendameetups.com.
They are taking place almost every single day of the week.
As I said, it's a global phenomenon.
You need this because connection is protection.
And that's what they're doing in Los Angeles.
Leo Bravo had Flight of the No Agendas meetup number 46.
Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at Meetup number 47.
Here are some words from our guests.
Hey Adam and John, it's Steve in the morning.
Hey guys, it's Angie from the ranch in the morning.
Hey everybody, it's Pete Izzell.
Have a Merry Christmas.
Yeah, short, sweet, and to the point.
We appreciate that.
Got a written meet-up from the London producers who had their meet-up, which was on the... when was that?
That was yesterday.
They had it at Norfolk Arms.
Gigi, Ryan, Steven, Nasir, and 5am were there.
The group was small but perfectly formed.
Lots of love from us to yourself and John, and sent some lovely pictures.
I'm glad you guys had a good time.
Here's some meetups that are taking place today.
Calling All North Georgia Slaves starts at 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
The Charlotte Thursday Third Thursday begins this evening at 7 p.m.
at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
And tomorrow, the ITM Slaves of Bulgaria and Beyond, 7 o'clock at Canal in Sofia, Bulgaria.
Go join Tal for that and make sure you guys send us a meetup report.
I'm very excited to hear how things are going in Sofia, Bulgaria and how many producers we actually have there.
Lots more to see throughout the end of the year.
Into February, go to noagendameetups.com.
This is where you can find your connection with other producers.
You'll love it!
Guarantee you can take your spouse, you can take your boyfriend, girlfriend, you can take the kids.
There's always a lot.
You can take your dogs if the venue will allow it.
It's a family affair and you'll feel part of the giant No Agenda family.
16 years strong.
Noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start Start one yourself, it's easy and it's loads of fun!
Yes!
It's a giant party.
It's a great party.
with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you want me.
Triggered or held lame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Yes!
It's a giant party.
It's a great party.
It's a no agenda party.
I'm so confident about my ISO for today.
I'm going to let you go first.
I'm only going to play one, and you're going to hands down... Okay, I'm sure you've got a good one, but mine are all offbeat.
Okay, which one do we start with?
Let's start with Decide.
Let the people decide.
Okay, that's offbeat to say the least.
Let's go to Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Okay.
I'm here to save you!
That's pretty good.
And I would say that normally would have won the prize were it not for this one.
Merry Christmas, you filthy perverts.
Come on.
Come on.
That has winner written all over it, don't you think?
I think it's a bad example.
But it is funny.
Come on, it's funny.
It's fantastic.
And now it's time for...
Good news everybody!
John, well, to be more specific, Mimi has scoured the internets finding some good news.
I have to get, I have to sort through them.
So I picked this one.
This is a woman who, this is just one of those heart, this is a good news story about a woman who got graduated and she graduated with her baby with her.
And this was cute.
And it was another special graduation day at Ferris State University over the weekend.
A woman graduated walking across the stage with her newborn baby nestled into her gown.
Grace Chimchak was supposed to have a C-section today, actually.
Instead, baby girl Annabelle came 10 days early.
Grace said she had been working hard at her degree in early childhood education.
She wasn't letting anything stop her from walking on graduation day.
That just meant she had Annabelle strapped into her baby carrier with her the whole time.
And I kind of hope it inspires another mom to like go back to school and like show that she can do it too.
I hope to see her walk across the stage one day too at whichever college or university she chooses without me having to carry her.
And she says baby Annabelle actually did very well and did not fuss the entire ceremony.
Now Grace will be teaching full-time with preschoolers at a Strong Beginnings program in Traverse City.
I really give her a lot of credit.
You talk to her, I mean, it's pretty incredible.
I honestly am just shocked that the newborn baby was calm that entire ceremony because those can be really long ceremonies.
That's very impressive, but what a great memory for them.
Oh, a great memory!
And it's so politically incorrect because, you know, it's a birthing person, not a mom.
I like that about the clip.
I thought that was excellent.
And, you know, it was just that was a wholesome clip.
Very good.
Did Mimi find that one?
Did you find that one?
She found that one.
But there was something in there that to me was disconcerting that may or may or disconcerting.
Disconcerting.
That may or may not be noticeable.
But how she has the baby 10 days before she's scheduled to have a c-section.
I know that's weird, isn't it?
It's like, oh yeah, you're going to have, it looks like this will be your due date.
We're going to give you a C-section.
This is today's modern hospital environment.
They just C-section all the women.
Money!
Money!
There's more money!
Yeah, you get them in, you get them out, it costs more.
Perfect!
Another good news story!
A good news story from JCD.
Happy vibes for you and me.
And we all feel better now he's done his bit.
So back to reality, that's turning to shit.
Good news!
Every single Noah Jenner show, everybody.
Our feet are wrapped in good news.
And we love it that way.
And that concludes our deconstruction date.
Which we love doing for you.
We enjoy it very much, and we thank you for returning value for the value you received.
Makes us feel good, makes us want to show up again, makes us not want to find an exit strategy.
But to be honest, we're always looking.
Some great value from our end-of-show mixers, Jesse Coy Nelson, Shay Z, and Sir Michael Anthony.
That'll be the last one, I guarantee you.
It's not AI, it's just Sir Michael Anthony.
No, he's a talented guy.
That's what I mean.
No AI can rack it up against our talented people.
And that's you.
You are the producers of this podcast.
So go forth, you're commissioned to feel proud and hit people in the mouth.
And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, where we have extra body bags for April 8th.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where it rained yesterday, it's nice today, and it's going to rain tomorrow.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Sunday, which will be Christmas Eve, right after Darren O'Neill's rock and roll pre-Christmas show.
Until then, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
Adios, mofos, hui hui!
And such!
On the twelfth day of Christmas, the legend gave to me twelve years before extinction.
The world is gonna end in twelve years if we don't address climate change.
We're all gonna die!
Eleven jingles jingled.
Someone's getting cornholed today.
Yum!
And her head is gone.
This is a bunch of scumbags.
Can you see that juice?
That's true.
Fact check false.
33, that's a magic number.
9 Trump rotations.
Narcissist.
Mean.
Long ties.
Insane.
Tweets too much.
Small hands.
Small penis.
Big red button.
Criminal.
8 glitches reported.
Glitch.
Glitch, glitch, glitch.
Seven Obamas knowing.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Six foamers foaming.
Oh, my God!
Oh, yeah!
This is beautiful!
Yeah!
I do!
Five emotional support goats.
Four job commas.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Three judge chair squeakings.
Two little grilliers.
Yay!
Yay!
And now a shopping dealer's choice.
Is this Crown Hog Day 2?
Ho, ho, ho.
Merry Christmas.
Adios, mofo.
You know Clinton and Cosby are Kelly and Kobe.
Weinstein and Spacey and Jared from Subway.
But do you recall?
The most famous rapist of all, Jeffrey Edward Epstein, had an island full of kids, filmed them with politicians, for Israeli influence.
All of the deep state assets, We're afraid of his arrest.
They didn't want their sex crimes posted to the internet.
So one moggy New York night, the Clinton cartel came.
The cameras glitched and the guards napped while Jeffrey Epstein's neck was snapped.
Then all the media coverage said it was a mystery.
You're not allowed to protest and we're blaming the Chinese.
Merry Christmas, you filthy animal!
Ho ho ho, global citizens.
This is Santa Claus.
I am checking my list to see who is being naughty or nice according to ESG.
The worst punishment will be for the climate change deniers.
If you are naughty, do not worry.
We will not put a lump of coal in your stocking.
Coal is made of carbon.
And carving is forbidden by ESG.
So we will just take your stocking.
And your other gifts.
You will get nothing and be happy.
Another tradition is the leaving of cookies and milk for Santa.
These cookies must be 100% vegan.
And the milk must be soy milk.
Under ESG, there will be no more cow milk.
And, of course, no more meat.
You may also leave for Santa cookies made with the cricket flour and a glass of cockroach milk.
But even I will not eat this.
You will eat this.
Maybe not this year.
Maybe not next year.
But we still have plenty of time to implement Agenda 2030.
So now is the opportunity for giving the hugs, exchanging the gifts, And eating the ham makes the most of your unsustainable freedom while you still got it!
We at the World Economic Forum wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New World Order!