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1619: Flash to Bang

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	You take him off the ballot to protect a democracy.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Tuesday, December 24th, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Give Our Nation Media assassination episode 1619.
	This is no agenda.
	Making a list, checking it twice, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I've concluded that broadcasting live sports events over streaming services doesn't work.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Ah, that fast action bringing you down, huh?
	Getting that ghosting, getting that trailing, getting that not-so-good picture.
	Thank you.
	No, that's not what happens.
	Oh, what's the problem then?
	It just crashes.
	It crashes?
	What are you watching?
	Is it YouTube TV?
	Let's just quickly.
	Okay.
	The NFL, which is a corrupt organization, the way I see it, they just take whatever, whoever throws money at them.
	Hey, look at Taylor Swift.
	Yes.
	Whoever throws money at them.
	And so the Amazon decided to stream live football on Thursday nights.
	Okay.
	And nobody liked these Thursday night games anyway, so let Amazon do it.
	So their live stream, it doesn't work.
	It doesn't load.
	It says, Oh, go to Amazon and help.
	You can't get your video.
	And then it loads.
	All of a sudden you'll get a bit of it.
	And then it's crashes with a message.
	Something happened.
	Okay.
	And so you have to go back and reload it again and again.
	Wait, doesn't say something went wrong?
	Yes, something went wrong.
	That's what it says.
	That's my favorite message.
	Yes, something poops.
	You've seen that.
	Not during sports ball, but yes, I've seen this.
	Yeah, Amazon is overwhelmed.
	Their Prime video is out of control.
	And yes, you see that message.
	I tried to watch Reacher.
	I had similar problems.
	But when you try to watch the Thursday Night Football game, Uh, except I suppose in some areas.
	Uh, it's almost impossible because it's all going through one small pipe.
	Normally a football game is distributed all around the country through local stations over the air and even on local cable and it's easy.
	It gets distributed.
	It's fine.
	It's not one thin pipe, you know, where everybody has to go to this pipe to get their stuff.
	This is a stupid idea.
	And they're going to promote it even more because I guess they just did a game recently where they streamed a football game on the Peacock Network.
	I don't even know how to get that.
	And nobody watched it.
	This is unbelievable.
	This is unacceptable.
	Wow!
	Twice in a month!
	Start off with a complaint.
	What's going on?
	Well, you know, it's clear what we need to do.
	We need to buy up a whole bunch of those local OTA stations and then start broadcasting live sports.
	I mean, of course, we'll have to be badminton with what we can afford, but it'll be a start.
	We can do it with a fund.
	Everybody, you know, everybody has a TV that'll do- everyone's TV does that, you just gotta get your $12 antenna.
	Don't you think?
	It's a genius idea.
	I think people are flocking to over-the-air.
	Yes, I think we have an exit strategy.
	Wow.
	Do you have an over-the-air connection?
	Yes, of course you know I have that.
	Where are your channels coming from?
	Oh man, all over.
	San Antonio, Austin, Bernie.
	Let's see if there's another one.
	Those are the big ones.
	Oh, I have over 100 stations.
	Beautiful.
	Over the air.
	O-T-A.
	Going O-T-A.
	I'm an O-T-A kind of guy.
	Uh-oh, everybody, stand by.
	It's that time again.
	It's that time of year.
	That's right, it's Christmas.
	When it's Christmas time, what do we do?
	We have to scare people!
	This morning, with three days before Christmas, law enforcement on alert.
	On alert!
	Reporting the most challenging threat environment since 9-11.
	Many of the threats tied to the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas.
	Since October 7th, the FBI has received more than 1,800 reports of threats or other types of tips or leads that are somehow related to or have a nexus to the current conflict in Israel and Gaza.
	The FBI now has 100 active full-scale investigations tied to that Middle East conflict.
	Who is that woman?
	She has that gravelly Lisa Monaco, Susan Rice.
	Lisa Monaco.
	You nailed it.
	That was Lisa Monaco.
	Lisa Monaco.
	And, get this.
	Council on Foreign Relations creep.
	And what is she wearing?
	A red... A funny sweater?
	No.
	A red blazer.
	Because, you know, she's important.
	Go ahead.
	Go out on the street.
	Point to me how many women are walking around with a red blazer on.
	I have never seen one.
	You only see it in Congress and with douchebags.
	And of course, Santa Claus.
	Mrs. Claus.
	Which may be a subliminal message.
	But, you know, women who wear these red jackets, sometimes it's yellow.
	You're right.
	No, it's mostly red.
	It's a power play.
	It's a power play.
	And she's sitting there with Pierre.
	Well, Pierre, we've got some threat vectors, threat environments.
	It's very dangerous.
	1,800 tips.
	And officials also reporting a spike in threats to public officials.
	Agents and police now investigating violent threats against the Colorado Supreme Court after its ruling disqualifying former President Trump from running for office, citing his alleged role in the January 6th insurrection.
	Trump is expected to appeal that ruling to the U.S.
	Supreme Court as soon as next week.
	The Deputy Attorney General telling me in an ABC News exclusive that threats to public officials are at a level they've never seen before.
	What we've seen is an unprecedented rise in threats to public officials across the board.
	Just this week, Pierre, we've had cases involving threats to kill FBI agents, a Supreme Court justice, and three presidential candidates.
	To be clear, Monaco and other top law enforcement officials, including the FBI director, are saying there's no reason to panic, but all of us should be vigilant for the foreseeable future and through the holidays.
	But don't panic.
	No.
	ABC New York took this and went to the streets, their very own streets, because not only do we have Christmas, we also have, you know, New Year's, and we have Trump.
	Let's be honest about it.
	We got all kinds of stuff there.
	Now, let's just listen how the local newscaster starts it off by saying, there's no evidence of anything going on buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu We have covered the holiday weather forecast, the holiday travel situation, now the more troubling angle.
	And yes, there is no confirmed terrorist threat in our area for either the Christmas holiday or New Year's Eve in New York City.
	But, intelligence agencies and security experts believe that with the war and chaos in the Middle East, we are in a kind of danger zone that we can't for a New York Minute ignore.
	You'll find an increased police presence in Times Square this year.
	Both officers you'll see and ones you don't even know are there.
	Wait, wait, stop, stop, stop.
	Is this different than any other New Year's Eve ever?
	Increased police presence?
	Oh, of course it's not different.
	It's exactly the same as it's always been, an increased police presence during New Year's.
	I will say, in 1987, New Year's 1987, when I had just freshly arrived at MTV, my first gig, no, I did something for Halloween for them, but then my first gig was, I was live from Times Square, back when Times Square was not made of rubber, Back when you had this little island between Broadway and 7th Avenue, you could get killed on those streets.
	Yes, it was a good time.
	It was a good time?
	And I had police presence around me?
	It was definitely more dangerous then.
	Just the sheer nature of Times Square.
	You could trip and die.
	Yeah, Times Square was bad.
	A real threat.
	Security experts say police are facing the most challenging threat environment since before 9-11.
	They're receiving more tips.
	What happened to January 7th?
	Come on, people.
	You're messing up your messaging here.
	Working behind the scenes to that demo.
	Social media tips from people.
	They're following all these leads.
	Oh yeah, social media.
	Someone posted on X that something could go on.
	We're following all these leads.
	Then they cut to war footage!
	All these leads.
	The increased threat started on October 7th.
	Is that a machine gun at Times Square?
	Yeah, all of a sudden there's sand in Times Square and machine guns.
	The ongoing war between Israel and Hamas.
	With the pro-Palestinian watches right now, it's sapping a lot of the strength and the energy of the police department.
	Hold on a second.
	It seems the real threat here is the pro-Palestinian marches.
	So that's of course concerning.
	Nationwide, the FBI has investigated more than 1,800 tips since then, and has more than 100 open investigations that are in some way tied to the conflict.
	We've had cases involving threats to kill FBI agents, a Supreme Court justice, and three presidential candidates.
	Five gold rings!
	...is something the director of the FBI testified about in front of Congress earlier this month.
	I've never seen a time where all the threats, or so many of the threats, are all elevated... Red leaking lights!
	Give us more money!
	...all at exactly the same time.
	The biggest concern, lone wolves and small groups taking action with little to no notice.
	It is time to really be concerned about this.
	We will panic, of course, but nonetheless, we're in rare times.
	You look at the hate crime numbers that are up in New York City.
	Hate crime!
	These are extraordinary levels that we haven't seen.
	But the country's largest city is used to threats, and police say they're more than prepared to host the country's largest New Year's Eve celebration safely.
	This is going to be the safest place.
	Cancel it!
	Now listen, listen, all of that, we've got machine guns, we've got, you know, threats to kind of kill everybody, and then, But this will be the safest New Year's Eve ever, everybody.
	His largest New Year's Eve celebration, safely.
	This is going to be the safest place in the country, if not the world.
	The New York City Police Department has the greatest resources, the greatest intelligence, and the greatest... And we smell good!
	...mythical wherewithal to know how to deal with these situations.
	So that was just ABC.
	And get this, in just the past two months, there have been 450 local demonstrations directly connected to the Israel-Hamas war.
	And police are preparing for the possibility that one of those demonstrations could take place in this area on New Year's Eve.
	So that was just ABC.
	But CBS, Face the Nation.
	I mean, they deserve an award.
	What kind of award can we get for bullcrap scaring the public?
	Maybe that's the award we should be giving out every single year.
	Scaring the public.
	We can do that too.
	There's no reason you can't do multiple awards.
	We're in the position to do that.
	I don't know what your reluctance is.
	I can't figure it out.
	You need a plan.
	You need a plan.
	No.
	What?
	That means meetings.
	Forget it.
	Margaret Brennan brought in all of her favorites.
	I mean, I have to give it to them.
	They were working.
	Well, of course, they recorded this yesterday or maybe even Friday.
	They're not sitting there live in the studio on Sunday.
	Not on a Sunday.
	I don't think so.
	Not on Christmas Eve.
	So they brought in the poop guy.
	I'm surprised Margaret was working.
	This must have been really recorded a while ago.
	They got Pegues and Pixie Girl, CIA Stooge Harridge, everybody was in on this because we need to scare everybody about all kinds of stuff.
	Including, including, including...
	It's tradition here at CBS News to- To scare the crap out of you on Christmas Eve!
	Gather our Washington reporters and look forward to the year ahead.
	Oh, yes.
	Catherine and Jeff, I know you talk to a lot of law enforcement sources as well.
	What's the degree of concern about what happens as this plays out in the coming years?
	What's your degree of concern, John?
	What is your degree of concern?
	Uh, a two.
	Already law enforcement across the country is dealing with an uptick in domestic terrorism cases.
	An uptick?
	An uptick in domestic terrorism?
	Where has there been domestic terrorism?
	Where's this?
	Where's the up?
	Where's the tick?
	Dealing with an uptick in domestic terrorism cases.
	Because there is this concern about how will the public react if there is a conviction in any of these cases.
	And already, the number of domestic terrorism cases that they've been investigating at the FBI specifically, compared to the number of international terrorism organizations in those kinds of cases, they're about running even.
	Hold on a second.
	There's no evidence of this.
	There's not been any stories about... What's the most recent domestic terrorism case we've heard of?
	There was a school shooting somewhere.
	A month ago, maybe.
	I mean...
	It doesn't seem to... I don't know.
	You're asking me?
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	What am I... Law enforcement is also very focused on preventing any kind of domestic terrorism.
	We're in this incredibly dynamic threat environment right now.
	Or dynamic threat environment right now.
	Law enforcement's interested in maybe, you know, stopping more than nothing else or more than anything else.
	It's stopping speeding.
	Merry Christmas, domestic threat environment.
	Merry Christmas, everybody.
	We're looking forward to your domestic Terrorism is not what the local law enforcement is doing around here.
	Trying to clean up the homeless encampments.
	I need to help these people out a little bit.
	We're going to add some machine gun fire?
	What are you going to do?
	Catherine, you have this extraordinary job of covering the president's... Oh, I'm sorry, I went too fast.
	We're in this incredibly dynamic... What's extraordinary about it?
	And the focus squarely is on lone actors or lone offenders.
	Lone offenders!
	Individuals who are inspired by events overseas, or they're inspired to act radicalized by domestic events.
	Wait, stop.
	Listen to that sentence again.
	They're inspired to act radicalized.
	Yes.
	Stop, I said that, you know, when Christina was a baby, I said stop acting radicalized, you stupid child.
	Alone offenders, individuals who are inspired by events overseas, or they're inspired to act radicalized by domestic events, and very opportunistic.
	Like what?
	So it talks about car ramming attacks, it talks about weapons, it talks about knives, and a very short, what law enforcement calls flash to bang.
	Flash to bang!
	That period in between wanting to act and then making the decision to act.
	Oh, God.
	Flash 2 Bang!
	Wow, this is a new... I gotta write this down.
	Flash... What do you think it's... Flash... 2 Bang?
	T-A Bang?
	Slash 2 Bang.
	Slash 2 Bang, which is a good show title.
	No, not Slash.
	Flash.
	Oh, flash not slash?
	No, it was flash.
	Flash to bang.
	Oh, flash to bang.
	It was like a flash bang.
	It's like one of those little grenades.
	Yeah, flash bang.
	So she's taking it and parsing it, creating a new term called flash.
	Flash to bang.
	To bang.
	Yes, flash to bang.
	So it's like a flash bang.
	It flashes.
	Yes, and then it bangs.
	And then it bangs.
	Yes, flash to bang.
	It's like a flash in the pan.
	It's like all of a sudden could just fire up.
	Someone is acting radicalized.
	Yeah, but Flash in the Pan has other meanings.
	Catherine, you have this extraordinary job of covering the president's own son and his legal issues.
	Hunter Biden with these indictments, three related to a firearm, felony counts, nine related to tax issues.
	Where does this go?
	Tax issues?
	That's cool.
	Related to tax issues.
	He broke the law.
	If she's going to answer honestly, where is this going to go?
	She should say, if she's going to answer honestly, I don't know if she does or not, because I have never heard this clip, but I'm guessing she'll answer honestly and say, well, it'll lead to a pardon.
	Where does this go?
	2024 is going to be a year of incredible legal exposure for the President's son, and these criminal prosecutions are going to unfold at the same time that his father is running for re-election.
	In January, he will be arraigned in a California court on the tax charges, and I would pay special attention to the California case.
	I had two lawyers look at the 56-page indictment, and they reached the same conclusion, that it is a shot across the bow by the special counsel.
	He identifies Hunter Biden as a lawyer, a consultant, and a lobbyist, and then goes into considerable detail about his business transactions with Ukraine, with China, Romania, and others.
	And they see this as Romania?
	What's the Romania stuff?
	Oh, Romania's always been in play.
	They always talk about it's Ukraine, China, and then they throw in Romania, even though they've never given us any details on this Romania angle.
	Romania on... Merry Christmas, Romania!
	With China, Romania, and others.
	And they see this as an indicator that the special counsel, at the very least, is investigating potential violations of foreign lobbying laws.
	Maybe even a superseding indictment.
	The Logan Act!
	All right, now we're getting down to the nitty-gritty because, you know, we have to get our Christmas message out there, people.
	So we need to start looking forward to 2024.
	Catherine?
	Well, mine's a little dark.
	I just feel a lot of concern that 2024 may be the year of a black swan event.
	This is a national security event with high impact that's very hard to predict.
	There are a number of concerns I have that factor into that.
	And not only this sort of enduring heightened threat level that enduring, enduring heightened threat level.
	Orange.
	Orange man bad.
	And not only this sort of enduring heightened threat level that we're facing, the wars in Israel, also Ukraine.
	And we're so divided in this country in ways that we haven't seen before.
	And I think that just creates fertile ground for our adversaries like North Korea, China, and Iran.
	And that's... What?
	Who?
	That creates fertile ground.
	The North Koreans are going to come in and sow their seed on our fertile ground.
	Maybe the Chinese, maybe the Romanians.
	...seen before.
	North Korea?
	Just creates fertile ground for our adversaries like North Korea, China, and Iran.
	And that's what concerns me most.
	A lot of people.
	Did she have a fee schedule so she'd get the extra $500 if she says North Korea?
	Well, she blew it because she should have thrown Romania in for $1.50.
	Up at night with that concern, Catherine, at least in this town.
	All right, now let's go to the longer predictions here.
	This is going to wrap it all up this segment.
	Here on Face the Nation, we've covered a lot of tough stories this year.
	Tough stories.
	It was a hard year.
	It was so hard for us.
	But let's pat each other on the back because we did a good job, everybody.
	It was hard.
	It was tough stories, but we did it.
	We're CBS.
	Mark Strassman to go back and recap some of the good news.
	Good news!
	The good news!
	Do you think this will be puppies and pancakes and pajamas?
	I think they're stealing our material.
	Yeah, I know, not entirely.
	Ladies first.
	Women headlined all over in 2023.
	Taylor and her jubilant Swifties.
	It's amazing how everybody comes together and we're all dressed up and we all participate.
	Beyonce and the Beehive.
	Both toys generated billions for local economies, mostly from women cheering their heroes.
	No, this is good news.
	Women.
	Heroes.
	Women cheering their heroes.
	Very good.
	I have never been more confident and proud to be in my own skin because of her.
	And Barbie, not just a Hollywood hit, a cultural conversation.
	Barbie is like such a strong and empowered woman.
	She has like 90 jobs.
	Good.
	She has like 90 jobs.
	Wow, that's the clip of the year right there.
	Cultural conversation.
	Barbie is like such a strong and empowered woman.
	She has like 90 jobs.
	Barbie is empowering.
	Yes, yes.
	With the legs that are five times too long from any normal woman.
	With the boobs that are bigger and firmer than any woman.
	And look at that hair!
	Good news, speaking of jobs.
	In 2023, America's rate of working women between 25 and 54 hit a record high.
	Put them to work!
	And the overall economy?
	Inflation's down.
	Recession fears?
	Fading.
	No, they're not.
	They just actually went up, but they don't like to report that.
	It's bullcrap.
	Inflation's coming down.
	Recession fears are fading.
	Nothing to see here.
	Rack up the credit cards, people!
	...hit a record high.
	And the overall economy?
	Inflation's down.
	Recession fears?
	Fading.
	We're seeing inflation making real progress.
	These are the things we've been wanting to see.
	Core inflation's down to 4%.
	Back in January, it was 5.6.
	This is cumulative, people!
	Please explain.
	I'll pause the clip for this.
	Barbie, shut up.
	You're next.
	Okay, so you have an inflation rate, it goes, it went to eight.
	So it goes to eight and then it goes to five.
	That doesn't mean inflation is going down.
	It means you're paying the eight plus the five.
	And then when it goes from four to three, it's still going up.
	In other words, it's cumulative.
	So the inflation, if it went.
	It went up 8% and then it goes up another 4%.
	It's going up another 4% and another 3%.
	It goes up and up and up.
	It's not going, it's not reversing, it's not going back to old prices.
	It's going parabolic, man!
	I mean, it is slowing, there's no doubt about that, but it's the rate of increase that's slowing.
	Yes.
	It's still going up.
	See?
	Core inflation's down to 4%.
	Core?
	Back in January, it was 5.6.
	No justice!
	No jeeps!
	No justice!
	2023 emboldened workers, especially union workers.
	Remember, this is the good news segment.
	On strike, nurses, autoworkers, Hollywood.
	And they all picketed a path to a happy ending on payday.
	We were finally realizing, wait, we know our worth.
	Fans of comeuppance, or just telling the truth, also hit the jackpot.
	Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay millions for lies he told about two Georgia election workers.
	Good news, everybody!
	Good news!
	We got that guy!
	And George Santos, the prince of make-believe.
	We got that guy!
	Good news, everybody!
	Drummed out of Congress.
	In entertainment, Michelle Yeoh became the first Asian woman to win the Best Actress Oscar.
	And a salute to Admiral Lisa Franchetti.
	She's the first ever female member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	In sports, the Buffalo Bills' DeMar Hamlin played again in an NFL game, 10 months after he nearly died from cardiac arrest on the football field.
	Good news everybody, the Vax didn't get that one.
	To be able to still do what I love at the highest level in the world is amazing.
	And Brittany Griner, playing again in the WNBA after languishing for 10 months in Russian custody.
	The love from the fans when I came out was amazing.
	Amazing!
	And finally, 2023 was a great year for 10 Americans released last week from Venezuelan custody and 5 Americans released in September by Iran.
	We got Fat Leonard!
	All in time for the holidays.
	All in time for the holidays.
	They never mentioned that we got Fat Leonard in that report.
	Did you notice?
	No.
	Hey, I got a note about Fat Leonard.
	Yeah, I saw it.
	Should I read that real quick?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Uh, the title of the last show was a sign I needed to donate.
	Oh, he's gonna donate.
	It was a dude named Ben stationed on the USS Blue Ridge for two years.
	My job was to help Comm.
	7th Fleet officers learn how to computer.
	Captain David Haas and Commander Michael Misovic worked in the department that arranged schedules for all ships in the 7th Fleet.
	They seemed like nice enough guys and there wasn't much to tell.
	I got out December 2012 and shortly after this here Fat Leonard story shows up.
	Turns out these officers were among the group that diverted ships to ports where old Lenny was able to scam the U.S.
	government by overcharging for services.
	If these officers had shared their money, hotel rooms, or hookers with me, maybe I could have told them that all of their computer activity was being watched and showed them about this thing called encryption.
	Oh, man.
	So those guys, the biggest scam in history, and they're idiots to boot.
	They're idiots.
	Well, if anyone thinks they're going to get away with anything that involves a computer, yeah, good luck.
	Good luck with that.
	And good luck if you think you know how to stop all the record keeping that's going on in the background.
	Good luck.
	Good luck.
	You're not going to do it.
	Good luck.
	And the reason for these giant hard disks, by the way, big giant double terabytes, 10 terabyte.
	You know, 18 terabyte drives that are 150 bucks now?
	It's to keep your stuff?
	It's to keep all the evidence against you.
	That way you never clean the disk, it's all there.
	So you're done.
	Did I see that there's a 2 terabyte SD card coming out?
	That's small.
	I'm sure there's a 2 terabyte.
	There's been 2 terabyte SD cards.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	I mean, I've seen a 1 terabyte.
	Well, the thing now that's getting to me is these 18, 14 to 18 terabyte drives for 150 bucks.
	Yeah.
	It's ridiculous.
	That's great.
	But again, that way you don't, you never clean, when I was a kid.
	There we go.
	We had like a drive, it was a big deal, it was like 10 megabytes.
	And so it wasn't good for anything, because you had to keep cleaning the disk.
	You had to spend at least one month out of the year clearing out everything and erasing it, because you couldn't keep it anywhere, backing it up to something.
	So everything was, you kept yourself in order, but now, no.
	No.
	No.
	Who knows what's on your disk?
	While we're at it.
	Hey, but before we go into that... Really?
	Hi, today's Teddy K.
	He's an OTG kind of guy.
	Yeah, baby.
	OTG kind of guy.
	Hey, but before we go into that...
	Really?
	You're going to cut me off?
	I want to push that off.
	You can play it again.
	But I think I was very misled by the opening of today's show.
	Because you said at the opening that you have a Christmas, like a classic every year Christmas report, which isn't true.
	It wasn't true.
	I didn't say that.
	I have the report.
	I didn't say that.
	I said, making a list.
	You kind of, it was what I heard.
	Making a list and checking it twice.
	That's what I heard.
	Well, you heard, so you're going to interrupt my OTG segment, which, and I'm looking at the rundown, says right here, It says, uh, 27 minutes, uh, into the show.
	Start the OTG segment.
	You have it.
	You got your call sheet.
	But no, you're going to interrupt.
	That was what I thought was b-block.
	Well, I'll do it in b-block then.
	You're, okay, you're calling an audible.
	I am, because I think that what's the classic... Yes, I am.
	Is that a sports ball term?
	There we go!
	Nailed it!
	So, it's, uh, This is the NBC, this is what, this is the report that everyone has on Christmas.
	This is the NBC News NORAD following Santa report.
	Oh, brother.
	Uh, where is it?
	I can't see it.
	It's under NBC.
	No, it's not under NBC because I'm looking at your clips right now.
	Oh, there it is.
	Yes, I got you.
	Finally tonight, Santa Claus is putting the final touches on his flight plan for Sunday night and once again he'll be counting on members of the U.S.
	and Canadian militaries to make sure he has a clear path as he departs the North Pole.
	Do the Canadians even celebrate Christmas?
	The remote object is far before Trudeau.
	Before Trudeau.
	America's front door, and guarding the sprawling expanse from adversaries, is the job of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD.
	But not every object on NORAD's radar is an intruder, especially when Santa takes flight on Christmas Eve.
	I spoke to Lieutenant General Blaze Frawley to learn more about the critical mission of tracking Santa.
	I know your main job is to protect the North American airspace against intruding aircraft or bad guys.
	Yeah, they want to fly into, like, buildings in New York.
	But how good was that?
	So how do you use that technology to track Santa?
	Our main job at NORAD is to defend North America with the Binational Command, U.S.
	and Canada collectively.
	Balloons!
	We use our systems to track Santa.
	We use our North Warning System.
	As well, we use worldwide global satellites.
	And finally, our fighter aircraft.
	NORAD's Santa tracking mission began in 1955, when a child, trying to reach Santa, instead called an unlisted number for the military's Continental Air Defense Command.
	The commander on duty, realizing what had happened, assured the child they would guarantee Santa a safe journey.
	This sounds like a bunch of bullcrap.
	Is this the genesis of this thing?
	I've never heard the genesis story before.
	I've never heard this.
	I thought it was ham radio guys who track Santa.
	And I'd like to know if these guys are such hot shots, how did they miss that air balloon that came floating over until it got to Montana?
	Military industrial complex weaponizing Santa.
	A promise NORAD has kept every year.
	Throughout the years, many different fighter aircraft have intercepted Santa, and we'll normally give him a wing waggle as we peel off.
	They've intercepted Santa?
	What?
	Wow.
	Thank God they didn't shoot him down.
	Right.
	I just left Curtis down.
	Throughout the years, many different fighter aircraft have intercepted Santa, and we'll normally give him a wing waggle as we peel off after we've intercepted him.
	Would you like to know where Santa is right now?
	Thanks to that technology, millions of kids are able to call in to NORAD's Santa Tracking Hotline, or log on via social media for real-time updates, making sure Santa is indeed on his way.
	You just have to make sure that everybody in your house is sleeping, including moms.
	Merry Christmas!
	Wait a minute.
	Of course I didn't see this.
	Are they taking calls from kids at NORAD?
	Is that what I was hearing?
	Somebody's taking calls.
	Oh, man.
	And they have a website and everything.
	It's pretty interesting.
	It's advanced somewhat since the 50s.
	Yeah, because they need to recruit children now when they're six.
	Because no one wants to work for these jamokes anymore.
	So that's the report I was expecting from you.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I fell down on the job, man.
	So now I want to go to the OTG, which by the way, usually the second half of the show anyway.
	And I don't know, I think you're getting a guilty conscience of the reason you're bringing this OTG up, because you know that I, as of January 1st, will have been with, actually, To be honest about it, since the next Christmas, I will have been without a cell phone in my pocket or any place else for that matter.
	I have not looked at one for an entire year.
	Yeah, you're amazing.
	I am amazing and I've not used... and you know what?
	It didn't make a damn bit of difference in my life.
	Well no, that's right.
	You're just as lonely.
	No one visits you.
	You don't know anybody.
	But besides that... But besides that, you're winning!
	No, I need to bring this up because of that previous note.
	Two people notified me this morning that Prince, Eric Prince, the guy from G Academy, formerly known as Blackwater, you know, he's rebranded three times.
	The Blackwater guy.
	The Blackwater guy.
	We know him.
	He's coming out with a phone.
	And he's out there shilling the phone.
	Oh, what a great idea for him.
	That's an exit strategy for a guy like that.
	Well, this is why I wanted to look at it.
	It's the unplugged phone at unplugged.com.
	Boy, they must have paid a lot for that domain name.
	That's a good one.
	Unplugged.com.
	Yeah, they paid for that.
	Someone paid a lot of money.
	That's a million dollars.
	But you know, it's like, they've got this, so it's an Android derivative, and I need the dude's name, Ben, to weigh in on this thing, because of course I haven't seen it.
	They're using the LibertOS.
	Libert?
	Libert?
	Libertard?
	Libertos.
	LibertardOS.
	Which, you know, it may be a GrapheneOS type deal.
	I don't know.
	They're also selling you, and this is where it gets real sketchy for me... Well, before you continue with what you think is sketchy, I think because of his background in intelligence...
	I'm very skeptical.
	Of course, especially when he's selling you the UP Messenger.
	So you use their special messenger app.
	I don't know what's wrong with Signal.
	Signal seems fine to me.
	And they're selling you a VPN.
	Well, that's a big red flag right there.
	Yeah, let's use Eric Prince's VPN.
	What could go wrong with that?
	So I want the dude's name, Ben, to let me know what they think of this.
	I'd like to know myself, because I am going to start using a phone again next year.
	Why?
	Well, you're lonely.
	You're lonely, I knew it!
	I need to call those girls on the 800 line.
	Boy, there's a dated reference.
	It's 900, 900 line.
	Whatever, some line, I don't know.
	Well, hold on a second.
	I have a clip for you.
	A recent search in general advisory found that lacking social connection can actually increase your risk of death by 60%.
	Pay attention!
	Pay attention now!
	It also raises the chances of dementia, stroke, and heart disease, and it can be the equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes a day.
	The Oreos are as bad as cocaine!
	You have called this one of the defining issues of our time, and usually when a Surgeon General declares something an epidemic, we're talking about... You, John.
	You.
	AIDS, for example.
	Is this that fruity Surgeon General we're dealing with here?
	Yes.
	Hey, who you calling fruity?
	Epidemic.
	We're talking about AIDS, for example, or cigarettes.
	It's like AIDS!
	That is how severe you believe this is for people.
	And what could they be talking about?
	Oh my!
	This is, and you've given me grief, and listening to this, this is all part of a giant scheme to make sure everyone's hooked onto one of these stupid phones so they feel dependent constantly.
	This is creating a giant world of dependent people that they can control with a one world government.
	John C. Dvorak on fire today!
	On fire!
	I had the double hit.
	The double espresso.
	I go to the espresso machine and I look at it and I say, well, do I want to be just regular on the show and have a good time?
	No, today I'm going for the double hit because I know it always brings the best out in me.
	Well, I think one of the things that's really important to recognize is we didn't get here overnight.
	COVID certainly contributed to this loneliness crisis, but it was a problem long before as a result of lesser participation in the community organizations that used to bring us together, rec leagues, churches, synagogues, etc.
	But also the impact of technology and social media has not always been positive.
	It's often diluted.
	The quality of people's relationships, taking them from in-person interactions to online interactions.
	This is about quality of friendships, quality of interactions, not quantity.
	I know the age of social media has convinced us that we need thousands of followers and thousands of friends.
	We do not.
	We just need a few people in our life who see us for who we are, with whom we can be ourselves, and who can show up for us in a crisis, and hopefully we can do the same for them.
	That's such an important message around the holidays.
	Ah, yeah.
	You know, this is, this is why I always say connection is protection.
	The knowage and the meetups.
	Yeah, well, that's a good early plug for the meetups.
	This show is the antidote to this HIV, cigarette cancer they were talking about called loneliness.
	Well, we caught the loneliness trend in the news six months ago.
	It's an op.
	It's an obvious op.
	It's an op, but what's the op designed to do?
	I mean, what's the purpose of the op?
	To make people depressed?
	Yeah, make you feel like crap.
	Yeah, that would be one.
	That would be one.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's a lot of ops playing out right now.
	There's too many in there.
	Some of them are bumping into each other.
	The Taylor Swift op was ratcheted up a notch.
	Oh, this one's getting on my nerves now that you brought that clip up.
	We've talked a lot about how the Taylor Swift effect is changing the NFL.
	If you were to look at the video of Taylor Swift watching now her Kansas City Chiefs, it's very clear that the NFL has radicalized Taylor Swift.
	Ah!
	The NFL has radicalized Taylor Swift!
	She was cursing, she was yelling, she was furious.
	As furious as Patrick Mahomes, who was spiking his helmet on the ground after he threw two picks in this game.
	It was a home game for Taylor Swift.
	I, you know, I have to say that something is wrong with Taylor Swift because her image is not her using the F word so everybody can see it.
	And she's very, she's hyper aware of being on camera.
	Totally.
	So she knows that she's doing this.
	There was something about that that was very, very wrong.
	It broke my heart.
	I like the crack in your voice.
	Good, huh?
	Broke my heart.
	It was good.
	It was very good.
	Yeah.
	There's another part of that loneliness op, is have you been following this beeper, iMessage thing?
	No.
	So, I don't think I have a clip of it.
	You wouldn't know this, but... Thank you.
	Yeah, you wouldn't know this, but there's a social issue, and I even get crap for it, from my adult You know, AARP friends, you're the green bubble in our chat group!
	You're ruining the chat group!
	What?
	Yes, I thought you wouldn't know.
	So, there's a difference between... iPhones, when you're text messaging with an iPhone, you're no longer going through the SMS, short message service system, you're going through iMessage.
	Right.
	I know that.
	With iMessage, you can, you know, you can delete stuff, you can edit stuff, you can add stuff, you can name your group.
	But if you add one person into the group who has a phone that is on the SMS system, i.e.
	Atom with Graphene OS, that ruins all the features.
	Then it breaks.
	And you will show up as a green bubble where everyone else is a blue bubble.
	It's so bad that, you know, there are people who, we've talked about this, people will not date someone who has a green bubble.
	If you've got an Android phone, you're undateable.
	Well, this was years ago we talked about this.
	Well, it's only gotten worse.
	I would guess 10 years ago when somebody sent us an email saying that they wouldn't date anyone.
	I think it was Buzzkill Jr.
	actually who filled us in on this.
	It could have been.
	Yeah, I think so.
	But it was like, if you're at the bar and you pull out anything but an iPhone, you're a loser.
	And so the girls wouldn't date these people.
	But I thought that, by the wayside, with the foldables and all the great other phones that are far superior, I might add, to the iPhone.
	Now this, of course, this could be iPhone public relations.
	Propaganda.
	Propaganda is possible.
	Yeah.
	So this guy came up with an app, then he reverse engineered the iMessage protocol And he released this app, and Apple, of course, lost their crap because there goes the whole reason for getting an iPhone.
	So I actually think that this is Apple propaganda.
	And now the FTC is looking into this guy.
	The FTC should be looking into Apple.
	Of course.
	Well, the EU has now forced Apple's hand and they, in the EU in 2024, and I think it'll be worldwide, they're going to adhere to the RCS standard, Rich Communication Services, I think.
	So, I think they'll let, you know, they'll let the Android people, I think they'll still give you a green bubble.
	If I were Apple, that's what I'd do.
	If I were the horrible people that Apple are, I would give you the functionality.
	Yeah, I would too.
	That's actually the right strategy.
	You'd use the new standard, but you'd have some other, something running underneath that would let you know it was coming from a non-Apple phone.
	A loser.
	From a loser.
	You're a loser.
	It's a green bubble.
	Yeah, that's what I would do.
	Exactly what I would do.
	So, you know, people.
	If this is important in your life, then if they're, and I've given my friends grief about this, is you're a horrible person when you say that.
	You know, my pastor, he's like, we're in a group message with him.
	Like, you're a horrible person, pastor.
	You shouldn't be complaining about my green bubble-ness.
	It's really bad.
	That sounds terrible.
	This also is your, oh, I can, now I see the triggering mechanism here.
	What's the triggering mechanism?
	That your pastor is like, rebuked you.
	Well, he threw in a quick smiley wink emoji, so... Yeah, that's a rebuke from the pastor.
	I knew it was all okay.
	Yeah, sure.
	But this is seriously... Does your pastor listen to this show?
	Oh, absolutely.
	I doubt it.
	Oh, absolutely.
	He loves the show.
	Yes, he loves it.
	This is where we... Then he has to send you an email saying quantum five, which would be the code word I just gave.
	Quantum five, okay.
	Don't repeat it.
	I won't.
	Make sure that he... Here's how I connected with the pastor.
	When he was over at our house for the first time when Phoebe bit his wife, that was cool.
	This is before we sent her away to the boot camp.
	Yeah.
	Did you say bit?
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah, that's when Phoebe went away for three weeks.
	You know, so we didn't really know them.
	And so like, oh, the pastor and his wife coming over for dinner.
	And then we're sitting there and I said, Hey, you know, what I wanted to say is I really loved your service this morning.
	What came out was I really loved your show.
	And he cracked up.
	And then we realized that we actually both are doing shows.
	And there's a lot of similarities between them.
	Pastor John, Huh.
	Just saying.
	Yeah, well, I don't want to be blasphemous.
	So, as far as I'm concerned, we're doing a podcast and that's that.
	Let's be blasphemous for a moment then.
	The European Union is squaring up to porn sites saying some companies have to follow the strictest level of the EU's new digital rulebook.
	That means they'll have to beef up measures aimed at policing illegal content and protecting minors.
	It won't be welcome news for platforms like Pornhub.
	It says it doesn't have enough users to deserve that level of scrutiny.
	The newly listed platforms will follow Elon Musk's The EU is lost, man.
	which Brussels suspects isn't doing enough to clamp down on disinformation.
	After all, if tech firms are found to be in breach of the EU's rules, they could face fines of up to 6% of revenue or be banned from the bloc for repeat offences.
	Brussels is just getting started with enforcement, so we've yet to see just how tough the laws are in practice or what they mean for businesses.
	The European Union says platforms can run from the new rules, but they can't hide.
	The EU is lost, man.
	Lost.
	They have no free speech.
	It's gone.
	I like the way they happen, too.
	They just kind of put up with it.
	They've always been pushovers.
	I mean, that's why there's all those wars that break out every, you know, so often.
	Between France and Germany.
	With one little country beating up the other one and then all hell breaks loose and they're in a world war.
	And it spreads all over the place.
	Those guys are hopeless.
	The worst thing, they don't even realize what's going on.
	They don't even know about the Digital Services Act.
	They don't even know what's going on with them.
	That's the thing.
	It's like, what?
	We can't say that?
	What?
	We have to register for porn?
	By taking a picture of my face?
	What?
	When did that happen?
	Because, you know, Brussels is, people think, well, of course, the UK is different.
	UK has its own issues.
	Yeah, they're still a part of it.
	You know, they only broke away in kind of a fake way, I think the whole thing is.
	Wait until Nigel Farage comes back.
	He's got to run.
	Well, I know he's making a move again.
	He is.
	He is.
	It's hilarious.
	I have a, I have a 3x3.
	Oh, now we know.
	Now it's time for 3x3!
	Woo-hoo!
	Experiment by JCD!
	Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC!
	The never-ending 3x3!
	That's right, John's got 3 stories from 3 networks!
	Let's see what the script is today.
	Are they all the same?
	Did they, are they collusion?
	Did they get their talking points from the White House or from the intelligence agencies?
	It is your 3x3!
	Well, I have to say that... Thank you for the intro.
	You're welcome.
	I have to say that our producer Jones that binds these... Steve, the clip collector.
	Yes.
	Steve, our buddy.
	Yeah.
	It's like...
	Do you know that he's a brother?
	I'm kind of surprised, yes.
	I'm surprised that I stopped doing this myself because it's more apparent than ever that it's like the same newsroom.
	These stories are structured the same.
	These are three networks that are supposedly in competition with each other.
	And the three networks put together the exact, and this is goes on and on.
	That was just one story.
	I mean, he sent, he sends different samples of different examples.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	No wonder I'm getting fewer clips from him.
	He's like, he's like, Oh, this is so much easier to do the three by three for John.
	I can just needle drop on that stuff.
	I just needle drop it.
	Boom.
	There it is.
	Boom.
	There it is.
	Boom.
	There it is.
	I will say, I don't, well, Yeah, I think it's true.
	I think he himself is stunned by the stupidity of these three networks, these major networks worldwide, international.
	These networks are playing us exactly the same story.
	Mm-hmm.
	So somebody else is doing the stories, they're not doing it.
	Let's start with, this is about the SCOTUS denial of the Trump... The trials, yeah.
	Not the files, the... The fast-tracking of the trials.
	Fast-tracking, exactly.
	Let's start with NBC.
	Tonight, the U.S.
	Supreme Court handing Donald Trump the practical victory he wanted, punting for now on a legal issue that could make or break the federal case that accuses him of plotting to overturn the last election.
	The high court declining the special counsel's request to answer right now whether Mr. Trump is immune from prosecution.
	A lower court concluding the presidency doesn't confer a lifelong get-out-of-jail-free pass.
	A decision Mr. Trump had appealed, arguing complete immunity for anything that happened while he was in office.
	That led prosecutors to ask the Supreme Court to step in and quickly resolve the issue now.
	Today's decision, all but guaranteeing the existing trial date set for March, will slip.
	All this as the prosecution's hand is strengthened on a different front.
	The Detroit News reporting it reviewed audio recordings of Mr. Trump pressing two local Republican officials not to certify the 2020 election results in Wayne County, Michigan, telling them, we can't let these people take our country away from us.
	He thanked me for my service.
	Asked me how I was doing.
	NBC News has not heard or verified the audio.
	The Trump campaign maintains the former president was focused on election integrity.
	The call itself only described benignly by one of those local officials at the time.
	Are you saying the president's call had no influence on you recapping your vote?
	Absolutely.
	Wow!
	So there's no story?
	They have no evidence, no call, no one saying it's an outrage.
	They got nothing.
	No, they do have the same quote everyone uses, which is Trump.
	Trump said that we have to take back our country.
	You're going to hear, that was NBC.
	You're going to hear ABC, and this is going to be, I would say, you'd think it was the same exact report.
	They have the same cutaway to this bullcrap recording.
	Everything's in the same order.
	This is unbelievable to me.
	Tonight, a legal victory for former President Donald Trump.
	In a one-sentence order, the U.S.
	Supreme Court says it will stay out of the federal election interference case against him until a lower court decides whether he's immune from prosecution for crimes he allegedly committed while he was in office.
	Special Counsel Jack Smith had asked the justices to move fast and bypass a federal appeals court.
	Today's decision almost certainly means Trump's trial, currently scheduled to begin March 4th, will be delayed.
	Trump faces conspiracy and obstruction charges for plotting to overturn the 2020 election.
	The special counsel said Trump used deceit toward state officials to subvert the legitimate election results.
	And tonight, a new report claiming to show how deeply engaged Trump was in efforts to cling to power.
	The Detroit News reports it reviewed a recording of Trump on the phone with two Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, pressuring them not to certify Joe Biden's victory in Michigan.
	The paper says Trump told the two canvassers, Monica Palmer and William Hartman, they'd look terrible if they signed the certification, and pushed Trump, telling them, we can't let these people take our country away from us.
	Republican Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, who was on the same call, reportedly said, do not sign it.
	We will get you attorneys.
	Trump adding, we'll take care of that.
	ABC News has not independently confirmed the report.
	Neither Trump nor McDaniel disputed the paper's characterization of the call.
	Palmer did not respond to our request for comment.
	Hartman died in 2021.
	The pressure campaign did not work.
	The canvassers ultimately certified the election for Biden.
	Trump's spokesman says the former president's actions were taken in furtherance of his duty as president to ensure election integrity.
	McDaniel said the call reflects her belief there was ample evidence that warranted an audit.
	The call fits a pattern of Trump's strong-arming state officials to change the 2020 election results.
	Like his call to Georgia's Secretary of State.
	I love the pressure.
	Strong arming.
	I mean, what did he say?
	I'm going to shoot you?
	I'm going to arrest you?
	What is this?
	That's mafia.
	That's mafia practices, man.
	It's Hitler.
	Hitler did that.
	You'll notice the structure of that story is identical.
	Exactly the same.
	Exactly the same.
	And how does that happen?
	Almost the same length, John.
	These clips are almost all the same length.
	These have been cut back.
	They were edited down to the same length.
	I tell Jones, you know, hey, we can't go over two minutes.
	These guys, the Joneses, Clip Collector and Clip Custode, you know they have a Discord they share together so they don't overlap clips?
	They're managing us.
	They probably both work for some agency.
	For Poolboy.
	The Jones Brothers.
	So the point is, is that this is ridiculous, these, these reports, and they have the same structure almost.
	I mean, it's just, it's like, how do you, how does that happen on two independent newsrooms?
	It can't happen unless they're being guided by above.
	Now, I will mention that when this first came up, probably a month ago, that there were, that this joker was going to send us to the Supreme Court directly.
	I said on this show that this, they're not going to accept this because the Supreme Court In this case, definitely wants it to go through some lower systems.
	It has to be.
	You just can't go from zero to the Supreme Court.
	I can't take my parking ticket to the Supreme Court because I want to.
	So, this is a foregone conclusion.
	Nobody mentions that.
	Nobody in any of these three reports even discusses the mechanism here, or reads the one terse line saying to send it back.
	They all tell you about the Supreme Court in one sentence, send it back, but they never read us the sentence.
	Here we go, now we go to CBS with Robert Costa, and it's gonna be a little, he changes it up.
	Always, always different.
	They change it up a bit.
	But they don't change it up in this case.
	They don't change it up enough and they don't bring in anything new.
	Today's Supreme Court order could delay the March 2024 start of Trump's trial on charges of interfering in the 2020 presidential election.
	The immunity issue will be heard by an appeals court in the second week of January.
	And now a potentially stunning development.
	The Detroit News reports it has heard a recording of a November 17th, 2020 phone call where Trump pressures two Wayne County officials.
	Hold on, who heard that?
	I'm gonna listen to that again.
	The recording of a November... I'm gonna back it up a second.
	Detroit News.
	Oh, Detroit News.
	It's a newspaper guy.
	Supposedly heard a recording, now I have to say this, CBS is the only one who refuses to say we can't verify.
	The other two networks say we can't verify this recording or that it even exists.
	CBS just passes it through as though it exists for sure.
	Or we could actually say, without evidence.
	Without evidence.
	CBS reported without evidence.
	The Detroit News reports it has heard a recording of a November 17, 2020 phone call where Trump pressures two Wayne County officials, Monica Palmer and William Hartman, to not certify the 2020 election.
	The paper also says Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel was on the call.
	If you go home tonight, do not sign it, the paper reports McDaniel told the officials.
	We will get you attorneys.
	Trump told them to fight.
	Said it would be terrible if they certified.
	Wait, stop, hold on.
	Now, you have to pull it back a little bit.
	I have to say, having listened to this for the umpteenth time, I would say this was new information because what he said was that it was Ronald McDaniels who's the one who pressured them to not sign, not Trump.
	Not Trump, exactly.
	Now this wasn't, this was, okay, well this is interesting.
	So I can continue, sorry.
	Go home tonight, do not sign it, the paper reports McDaniel told the officials.
	We will get you attorneys.
	Trump told them to fight, said it would be terrible if they certified, and said they must not let these people take our country away from us.
	The call was detailed in the House Select Committee.
	Yep, yeah, absolutely, but yeah.
	...and said they must not let these people take our country away from us.
	The call was detailed in the House Select Committee's January 6th report, but the existence of audio was not previously known.
	In the report, Palmer told investigators she could not recall what exactly Trump said, or if he raised election issues.
	Palmer has said she was trying to protect the vote.
	Make sure every vote is counted, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat.
	A Trump spokesman said Trump's actions were within his duty as president and an attempt to ensure election integrity.
	In a statement, McDaniels said that at the time there was ample evidence that warranted an audit.
	Special Counsel Jack Smith has been investigating how Trump worked to throw President Biden's victory into doubt and spark chaos during the congressional certification, often by leaning on Republicans in key states to declare Trump the victor.
	Smith's office declined to comment.
	Huh.
	Weak.
	He declined to comment.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Exactly the same report.
	I mean, this is really, they're reporting on the, what, the Detroit Herald, what was it?
	The Detroit News.
	Detroit News, so they're commenting on something they read online.
	Oh, I see a tweet from the Detroit Herald.
	No, no, they also, all the reports say that they heard the tape.
	The news somehow, I don't know who at the news, they never say, it's not the whole operation obviously, but they say that they heard a tape and that's the breaking news that this tape exists.
	Oh, that's like the P-Tape and all the other tapes they had of Trump.
	Yeah, and if it's such a... Why doesn't the Detroit News post the tape?
	Yeah, exactly.
	How hard can that be?
	They have a website, they could post the tape.
	Well, heard the tape doesn't mean they... Instead it just tells what they heard.
	Yeah, did someone just play it over the phones?
	This is bullcrap!
	Yeah.
	Well, in this vein, with former President Trump being taken off the Colorado ballot, I think it's time to go to our friends.
	You take him off the ballot to protect a democracy.
	Elitist Voices of America.
	This is NPR or PBS.
	It's actually NPR and it is clearly the B team.
	The B team is loose because everyone's off for Christmas holiday so we can just go crazy and we can just say whatever we want.
	Violent rhetoric is raging in some corners of the internet.
	I mean come on.
	When you start a report with violent rhetoric is raging.
	I mean that's good stuff.
	That's script writing.
	The news would be, no violent rhetoric was raging on parts of the internet.
	That would be actual news.
	It's Chad GPT writing their scripts.
	Violent rhetoric is raging in some corners of the internet after this week's episode.
	Some corners of the internet.
	Okay, so what is a corner of the internet?
	Just to be nitpicky about it, what does that mean?
	There is no such thing as a corner of the internet.
	Well, in some corners.
	It's not just a corner, there's some corners.
	There's more than eight corners, maybe multiple corners.
	Well, there can only be four.
	How many corners?
	Technically.
	Yeah, you can only have four.
	No, you can have a, what about you had a hexagonal room?
	Oh, okay, then you got multiple corners.
	You got wedges.
	Violent rhetoric is raging in some corners of the internet after this week's historic ruling from the Colorado Supreme Court.
	Yeah, after judges barred Donald Trump from the state's primary ballot, some supporters of the former president are fuming over the decision.
	Fuming!
	Fuming!
	I'm fuming.
	Oh, fuming!
	...and have begun circulating personal information about Colorado Supreme Court justices who ruled against Trump.
	Some are even calling for civil war.
	Oh, there it is!
	Some are calling for civil war!
	Anything going on in Colorado, really?
	Let me guess.
	This has to be far right!
	It's the far right!
	How far?
	Far!
	Whoa!
	Hold on a second!
	Hold on a second!
	They've been calling for civil war.
	NPR domestic extremism correspondent.
	Whoa, hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	NPR domestic extremism correspondent.
	So how much domestic extremism is this person covering?
	Enough to have a title, enough to get paid to do this on a regular basis.
	That's gotta be a great business card.
	What do you do?
	I'm a domestic extremism correspondent for NPR, your national treasure.
	Wow, nice to meet you.
	Wait until you hear this jabroni.
	Are you even calling for civil war?
	NPR domestic extremism correspondent Odette Youssef is here to tell us more.
	Odette?
	Odette Youssef!
	I was reading some of this, Odette, and I thought, oh, I've seen all this before.
	And then I thought to myself, that's not good.
	That's not good because, you know, because I'm going to editorialize everything because no one's listening.
	Yeah, I mean, and on some of these far right platforms, this kind of talk is far right.
	Hold on.
	Far right platforms.
	That would be Fox.
	I'm thinking X, Rumble.
	Oh, X, X and Rumble.
	Rumble, Brighteon.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And BitChute.
	BitChute.
	Yeah.
	I mean, A, on some of these far-right platforms, this kind of talk is everyday stuff.
	Listen to the editorializing.
	It's everyday stuff.
	It's my job on the far-right corner platform, domestic Terrorist, extremist correspondent.
	It's everyday stuff.
	I have my job.
	So hard.
	Yeah, I mean, A, on some of these far-right platforms, this kind of talk is everyday stuff.
	But when there are events that affect Trump adversely, whether it's an indictment or, say, the search of his property at Mar-a-Lago, it spikes.
	And so this time, you know, we're seeing claims online that this is a Democratic Party conspiracy to interfere in the election.
	We're seeing calls to arm up or to hurt or even kill perceived political foes.
	Arm up!
	You know, so far, people monitoring these spaces say they're not seeing indications of a credible or imminent threat.
	Well, but hold on a second!
	Then what's the story?
	Arm up, Civil War!
	But so far, people monitoring these spaces, isn't that your job, correspondent?
	This is confusing.
	But they also caution that this doesn't mean it should be ignored.
	So yeah, authorities still want to be watchful then.
	Of course.
	I mean, you may recall that after the Mar-a-Lago search, for example, online rhetoric heated up and there was an individual who attacked an FBI field office in Cincinnati.
	So it is important to understand how the baseline threat level is evolving.
	Wasn't that guy a left winger?
	Wasn't there no connection between the field office in Cincinnati?
	What's that got to do with anything in Florida?
	I don't think... Wasn't that some, like, some screwball?
	No, I don't remember even that story.
	I do remember something.
	Somebody, you know, threw a brick through the window or something like that.
	Well, there's a second part to this.
	It just gets better.
	You know, one person I spoke to who's been keeping an eye on this online activity is Daniel J. Jones.
	He's with the non-partisan, non-profit Advanced Democracy.
	Well, there's a front organization if I've ever heard.
	Let's just take a look.
	Advanced Democracy.
	Let's just do this in real time.
	Advanced Democracy, Inc.
	is an independent, nonpartisan, not-for-profit organization that conducts public interest research.
	Yeah, nonpartisan my ass.
	Let's just take a look.
	Let's see.
	Where's their about?
	Where's their boots page?
	They don't even have an Aboot.
	Of course not.
	Please wait.
	Hold on a second.
	Their Aboot is Act Blue.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Now I've gone to their dashboard for advanced democracy.
	Let's see.
	Tracking political donations in the complex U.S.
	campaign finance system.
	That's what they do?
	Search by... Oh man.
	So they're basically just OpenSecrets.org.
	They just take from their stuff.
	This is... Well, this is a lame-looking website.
	This is weak.
	This is weak.
	So, but, I mean... So, how are they a source?
	Yeah.
	I don't understand.
	Let's see.
	They do climate and... It looks like a fake web... These guys don't even look real.
	They have a Climate and Environment Program, Government Accountability Corruption Program, Global Extremism Program.
	That must be it.
	Oh, here it is.
	We work to identify and document the growth, reach, and influence of violent extremist groups as well as political rhetoric in the United States and Europe targeting communities of color, immigrants, the LGBTQ population.
	And religious minorities.
	That's me.
	That has contributed to a... They're protecting me.
	That has contributed to a surge in global hate crimes.
	Hold on.
	Hold on a second.
	Advance... Now, we've got to do this.
	Hold on a second.
	If they're a non-profit, then they have...
	Advanced Democracy, then they have a, let's see, Advanced Democracy.
	Okay, let's see.
	Then they have a, where are they?
	That's funny.
	Advanced Democracy, Inc.
	Okay.
	They yeah, they got $2.3 million in 2022.
	So I'll have to look at their 990 see what they're up to.
	They have $4.85 million in assets.
	Let me tell you, that's more than this show.
	Yep.
	So anyway, let's continue.
	He says he's not just watching the uptick in violent language.
	I think it's equally concerning that we're not seeing pushback against this language.
	We're not seeing pushback against dehumanizing language from presumptive Republican nominee.
	We're not seeing pushback from language from political leaders on the right.
	What do you mean we're not seeing pushback?
	The mainstream media went ape crap over this.
	Oh, he said vermin.
	Oh, he quoted Hitler.
	Oh, he's parroting Putin.
	What do you mean we're not seeing pushback?
	What are you talking about, dude?
	I heard, I was listening to somebody on one of these networks and she actually said that was a quote, which we debunked already and I didn't get the clip, but she says it was a quote from Mein Kampf.
	Yes, we looked at Mein Kampf, we got our own personal copies of it.
	Yeah, you can get it on a PDF and do a search.
	It's not in there.
	I have it here in the bookshelf, right next to it.
	Yeah, but you can search the PDF faster.
	Right next to the manifesto from the Unabomber.
	Come on people, you gotta read all that stuff.
	We're seeing the mainstreaming of this extremism and this encouragement of violence in right-wing media.
	And I, you know, I hear this across the board when I speak to extremism researchers, you know, what they are concerned about is violence from the right.
	And they say... By the way, I stop it again.
	You know, this idea that there's getting no pushback is, is really getting on my nerves because all you get is pushback.
	Trump says the minor, minor thing in an ad-libbing a speech in Iowa, and they jump all over him.
	These people are either living in an unbelievable... What they mean by no pushback, they mean that the entire country doesn't rebuke Trump and his numbers go to zero.
	Yes, correct.
	Correct.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me look at this lady.
	Odette Youssef.
	Here she is.
	Odette Youssef.
	Let me see what her deal is.
	She's a domestic... Oh, there it is.
	NPR.
	She has a page.
	Domestic Extremism Correspondent.
	It says that on there?
	It says that right on her page.
	Odette Youssef is a national security correspondent focusing on extremism.
	Alright, but it says domestic extremism correspondent.
	In her reporting, Youssef aims to explore how extremist ideas break into the mainstream.
	Yeah, on NPR.
	How individuals are radicalized and efforts to counter that.
	Well, so far we haven't heard any of that.
	She comes from WBEZ in Chicago.
	Where she most recently was part of the Race, Class, and Identity team.
	She must have dynamite business cards.
	I'm part of the Race, Class, and Identity team, also known as RCI.
	While there, she was a reporter for Host, and host for Season 3 of WBEZ's investigative podcast, Motive.
	It won the 2021 Edward R. Murrow Award.
	Wow.
	A podcast?
	Yes.
	Explores the emergence and spread of the neo-nazi skinhead movement in the U.S.
	It's been a while since I've seen a skinhead.
	I haven't seen a skinhead probably for 20 years.
	It's been a while since I've seen a skinhead.
	I mean, you see them on TV shows.
	Yeah, those guys at January 6th, the feds, they were skinhead kind of guys.
	They all had the same crew cut, short cut.
	Yeah, those guys.
	Those are the skinheads.
	She was also part of the team that in 2016 won the National Edward R. Moore Award for Best Continuing Coverage and receives a 2018 Studs Terkel Community Media Award.
	She's an award winner.
	She's also on IMDB, by the way.
	Oh, is she not?
	You can go there and she does have the Motive podcast series listed in 2019.
	And that's the only thing she's really got on there.
	But that just shows you that People that executive produce our show can get on here too.
	She's no better than you, people, is what we're saying.
	What they are concerned about is violence from the right, and they say that if high-profile figures would just clearly disavow that violence that some are calling for, it could really help bring the temperature down.
	High-profile figures need to disavow that violent rhetoric that is raging.
	Well, that's all I ever hear.
	What violent rhetoric.
	From Trump.
	Vermin.
	Say vermin and so we have to... Poisoning the blood.
	It's not doing anything.
	Who are they kidding these people?
	But when it comes to this ruling in Colorado, I mean, many are expecting that the ruling from that court may not be the final word on this.
	Any acknowledgment of that?
	No, no!
	Yes.
	In fact, I spoke with Catherine Keneally of another organization, the Institute for Strategic Dialogue.
	Oh, another one!
	Institute... Yeah, here we go.
	I should have done this earlier.
	The Institute for Strategic Dialogue.
	Let's see.
	ISD.
	ISDglobal.org.
	All right.
	Aboot.
	They got an Aboot page.
	Oh, here's their slogan.
	Powering solutions to extremism, hate, and disinformation.
	They got solutions.
	They have solutions!
	Yeah, and I'm noticing that it looks like the code base for this particular website is very similar to the one you just used.
	Yeah, okay, so let me look at the donate page.
	Let's see, what do they have?
	You can donate in U.S.
	dollars.
	Oh, they have, oh, they've got all kinds of, you can donate in Euro.
	This is a big outfit, man.
	No, this outfit is much bigger than that other one.
	That one's a front for this one.
	These are the dudes.
	These are big guys.
	Yeah, these are the guys.
	Let me just see.
	Let's look at their board for a second, just to make sure we can see.
	We got UK board.
	Where's our, oh, UK and Germany.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, in fact, half this website is in German.
	In German, yeah.
	They got, oh man, they got a lot of Germans.
	I don't see any names that we read.
	These are a lot of white women here.
	You know what?
	They're racist.
	They got no black people.
	Oh, there's one.
	Samin Zahra, the Youth Civic Action Coordinator.
	Wow, this is a racist outfit.
	They have no people of color.
	And she said she noticed this.
	We did also see a large number of people post Even absent violence, you know, this is still very concerning to people who care about democracy, right?
	Because, you know, even when... Yeah, so let's take people's name off the ballot.
	A common refrain that I started saying was the use of nothing burger.
	Even absent violence.
	You know, this is still very concerning to people who care about democracy.
	Right.
	Because, you know, even when.
	Yeah.
	So let's take people's name off the ballot.
	That's that spells democracy.
	Even absent violence.
	You know, this is still very concerning to people who care about democracy.
	Because, you know, even when threats of violence against judges, voters, really anyone participating in civic life become normal, that can have a chilling effect.
	You know, obviously, I read the New York Times like all day long, mainly on my iPad app.
	So, Tina, yesterday, she says, you know, I was watching an interview with Whitney Webb, and she's kind of saying the same thing you are.
	I said, nope.
	Nope.
	And so, we sit down to watch it, and she's been making the rounds.
	And, spoiler alert, neither of us like Whitney Webb.
	And so I'm watching this, and she literally talks out of the side of her mouth now.
	This is new.
	It's been developing.
	It wasn't that way.
	Now it's just, she has this continuous smirk.
	And I'm not sure why people are so enamored with it, because she's not really saying anything other than, well, they're gonna bring in the CVDC to control everybody through a cyber event with the banks.
	And it's all planned through the WEF, the WEF.
	And so we're watching and I said, well, let me see what you're looking at.
	And she was on Jimmy Dore, but this was a different one.
	Oh, this was Peter McCormick from what Bitcoin did.
	He's a big Bitcoin guy, a nice guy.
	I've been on the show a couple of times.
	But every five seconds, Whitney's going, right?
	You know, there's gonna be a shy revenge with her wife, right?
	And so I go, right?
	And then Gina says, that's it!
	I'm not watching with you anymore!
	I can't handle how you hate her!
	I don't hate her!
	No, we don't hate her.
	We don't hate her.
	She's derivative.
	She doesn't even live in the United States, and she's making, you know, doing this analysis.
	So she's not in the milieu, so she can't pick up on anything going on.
	And everything she's done, somebody else has done before.
	And when people call her out, and I have a website I keep sending people to, I don't have it handy, that busts her.
	Because it was an old Whitney Webb fan that found that she won't You know, that she's actually ruined people.
	She's not a good person.
	And then she's going on and on about, you know, they want to control us by forcing us to use our real government ID for social media and they want to control you and then you'll sign up for the internet at home and then they'll know everything you're watching.
	Hello, where you been?
	Where have you been?
	It's just like, you know, and I don't want to pick on her, but crikey, man.
	It's like, it's like the redacted people.
	No, I'm not interested in the redacted people either.
	I'm kind of down on all of these info mavericks.
	And there you go again.
	Yes, well, because now people are saying, you're, you're just crapping all over them.
	Who should, who should we listen to?
	You are, you're, you know what?
	I'm a hater.
	I'm a hater.
	They're right.
	You're a hater and you're crapping all over the good people like Whitney Webb and, and, and, and Tim Pool and all the rest of these guys who are just trying to straighten people out.
	They mean well.
	They mean well.
	Well, they do mean well.
	They absolutely mean well.
	I think they do mean well.
	But it's all just, it's like listening to Twitter all day.
	It's like, there's nothing new, it's all... But by the way, do they mean well?
	Or is it part of something bigger?
	And they don't mean well?
	Well, John at Dvorak.org on that one.
	No, of course.
	You're just suggesting the possibility exists.
	No, no one's getting paid.
	You know, like, Whitney Webb comes from a billionaire family.
	She's connected to the Rockefellers.
	Whatever.
	Is she?
	Who cares?
	No one's getting paid to do this.
	Yeah, well they are.
	By the way.
	They're getting paid to keep you afraid and keep you focused on stupid stuff all day long.
	Yes, they're doing a good job of that.
	I would actually unfortunately put your buddy Alex Jones in that category.
	Speaking of, speaking of.
	But before you go there, I want to go back to this, I just stumbled upon this ISD page.
	Yes.
	One of their big things is to push back against, if you remember, the Reichsberger movement.
	Oh, it was Germans, of course.
	That was the... The German attempt to overturn Germany's government by some one guy who happened to be a vet.
	Some 70-year-old guy.
	Some 70-year-old guy.
	And so that's all part of the... So this is a one-world government operation, I'm telling you.
	Well, yes.
	I mean, well, the thing is, you just gotta follow the money.
	If Whitney Webb has a non-profit, then I'll say, okay, she's in on it.
	But she's not.
	But she's, that's like Ava Fondelar, you know, the blonde girl.
	I mean, she's uniquely beautiful to look at.
	Which one?
	Who?
	The Dutch girl, Ava.
	You know, she's married to some guy from PragerU.
	She's in that whole group.
	I don't know.
	I don't know her.
	Yes, you do.
	She was on Tucker.
	Yes, you do.
	And, you know, and so she's at the turning point USA and saying, your rights, you know, are given by God.
	And I was like, oh, she's the best.
	Oh, she's Joan of Arc!
	I think most of these guys, what they're saying is already printed on the dollar bill.
	I mean, it's not like it's new information.
	No, but that's my point.
	Everyone's like, yeah, yeah!
	And all you're doing is sitting around in a circle, jerk going, yeah, yeah!
	You know, go to your local community, run for school board, run for city council, do something productive.
	These people are distracting you.
	I love Alex Jones.
	I always will.
	He taught me a lot.
	He's been right about a lot.
	Before we did this show, I was listening to him.
	But when you put him together with Mike Adams, you get dynamite, dynamite content.
	All of you watching and listening, we're all going to have to become experts at, frankly, killing the Terminator robots that are trying to kill us.
	And by the way, that's the way the world works with survival of the fittest.
	The globalists are going to deploy this and see what happens.
	Yes.
	This is a big contest.
	It's been decided.
	We're going to face the machines.
	They're sabotaging the military with wokeness, getting the humans out so only drones can fight the wars because they'll follow the orders.
	And you're not going to be able to out-shoot a Terminator ballistically because they will have built-in ballistic software.
	They'll be able to out-range you with rifles.
	They'll have, of course, infrared cameras and so on.
	They'll be able to see you at night, so you don't go out at night and try to fight a Terminator.
	What you do is you set traps for it.
	Traps where it can't anticipate what's going to happen.
	There's going to be a whole field of knowledge about how to kill Terminators.
	You're going to have autonomous flying drones making decisions about who to bomb and who to kill.
	You're going to have autonomous dog drones.
	And also, I call them Terminator squirrels, believe it or not, because the size of a squirrel is actually the best size on a battlefield because it can go up in a tree and it can traverse a forest by leaping from tree to tree.
	And it's very hard to stop and it can carry about 100 gram explosive.
	So these Terminator squirrels, I'm not making this up.
	No, that's mainstream.
	Terminator squirrels will be programmed to seek out enemy soldiers to leap into their faces and then detonate in their face.
	A small charge that's enough to kill them, like a small grenade, okay?
	So those are going to be unleashed on the battlefield very, very soon, in the coming few years.
	Squirrel!
	I can't wait!
	It's coming, it's coming soon!
	Holy moly, where'd you get that?
	Um...
	Somebody sent it to you.
	I think the Clip Custodian sent this.
	We have maniacs that listen to this.
	That is, you're right, that's kind of a critical mass of craze.
	Those two together.
	It was on the Jones's Discord, I think.
	That's where that came from.
	But, so, all I'm saying is, They can't even get these autonomous things to go more than a, you know, a few feet before the battery goes dead.
	Did you see Elon Musk's Optimum Version 2?
	It's a robot that walks like it has to take a dump.
	They all have that.
	All the robots, I've seen Sony robots, most of them I've seen have to walk like, they have to keep squatting like they're going to take a dump or they'll fall over.
	Just beware of false idols, people.
	Be careful.
	Be careful with your amygdala.
	Be careful with your mind, because that's the danger.
	All these people are great.
	A squirrel jumping onto your face and then detonating.
	Individually.
	Could you duck it, maybe?
	Could you duck the squirrel?
	Jordan Peterson.
	Individually, these people, they're okay.
	But they get into this like, and everyone gets spun up.
	To just get spun up.
	They're like, easy does it.
	Read a book.
	Now, this is, so now we have the following.
	This is a great, a great hit piece, which was sent to me as, oh, great Nikki Haley supercut, how she's full of crap and she contradicts herself.
	Well, this is clearly from Team MAGA.
	They have hacked, I mean, I'm certainly not a Nikki Haley fan.
	I think it's hilarious that there's this rumor going around that Trump is talking to people, hey, should I should I make her my VP?
	Please.
	Yeah, that'll be the day.
	That's not gonna happen.
	I mean, she would have a knife in his back within two seconds.
	And by the way, before you play this clip, I want to say that I put it in the newsletter and I'm going to use it as a theme for the next year.
	Trump and whoever the geniuses are that work on his campaign will be developing all kinds of, you know, I think this is the reason they came up with all these.
	I think the Democrats know this and we hear a lot about, oh, misinformation, disinformation, AI is going to kill us all.
	AI is going to be used by Trump and his boys and the rest of them and memes included.
	I got the meme alert out to kick ass and it's going to be a year of hilarity because like you said, you agree with me on this one thing about AI, it's funny.
	Oh, but that's the business model.
	What is the business model of AI?
	It's comedy.
	It's hilarious.
	The stuff that they're doing with existing AI, you don't need anything more than what's out there already.
	You know, we can already kind of do video and do voices.
	And, you know, as far as I'm concerned, you can stop the development.
	Although, wow, OpenAI, John, is now in talks to raise funding at a $100 billion valuation.
	But now we see what's really going on.
	You know what the money's for?
	It is to, and so they're raising funding with Abu Dhabi based G42 for a new chip venture.
	That's, we talked about this, that's where the money is.
	Compute.
	Let's make crazy big things to take a lot of processing power, tell people it's great, and then sell the chips that do it.
	Yeah, and then soak the, well, you won't be soaking the investors, you'll be soaking the public when you go public.
	Anyway, back to you.
	Global warming, be damned.
	Anyway, yeah, there's a good point.
	And here's the Nikki Haley hit piece supercut.
	I could not run if President Trump ran.
	I'm Nikki Haley and I'm running for president.
	I will not, not now, not ever, support raising the gas tax.
	Let's increase the gas tax by 10 cents over the next three years.
	A huge issue that I'll deal with as soon as I get there is social media.
	They need to verify every single person on their outlet.
	Because, and I want it by name.
	I never said government should go and require anyone's name.
	That's false.
	I think China's been a really great friend of ours.
	Yes, I view China as an enemy.
	That was not what I intended to say.
	I do not think we need to pull money from the U.N.
	The U.N., the only thing is we would defund the U.N.
	as much as possible.
	When a 12-year-old child in this country assigned female at birth says, actually, I feel more comfortable living as a boy, what should the law allow the response to be?
	I think the law should stay out of it and I think parents should handle it.
	I think there should be federal involvement.
	You should not have any gender altering anything done to a child before the age of 18.
	So I'm just going to defend Nikki Haley a bit here.
	These are clips that are taken out of context.
	Really?
	And if you're really honest, like, she's a liar!
	If you really listen to it, if you really listen to how this was cut, I mean, this is like man-on-the-street stuff.
	Don't be fooled by this.
	Don't be fooled by this.
	This is cut together to make her look worse than she already is.
	Again, would never vote for her.
	If I was going to vote for Trump and she was the VP, I wouldn't vote for Trump.
	I agree with that.
	That's a bad idea.
	So, anyway, it's just, we're being hoodwinked by the internet.
	Well, that's the whole idea.
	Oh, man.
	The Washington Post ran a long article on Sam Altman, and I'm surprised that they don't realize themselves.
	They are hyping this guy up in exactly the same way they did to Sam Bankman Freed.
	I mean, stuff like, here, how Sam Altman took over Silicon Valley from powerful friends to open AI.
	And they say things like, you know, you could drop him on an island of cannibals and within five years he'd be king.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, yeah.
	And he's, and like, you know... Well, who wrote this?
	One of his PR people?
	Well, that's interesting.
	Let me see if there's a byline here.
	Garrett, Garrett, the Vink and Kat Zawarzewski reporting.
	I don't know.
	Two people?
	Two people.
	Yes.
	How does it take two people?
	There's, you know, there's stuff in here like, you know, I had a private meeting with with Sam and, you know, he was on two phones at the same time.
	He's very introverted.
	He throws parties and then he has like an internal clock.
	He knows it's time to retreat to his room.
	He's not a schmoozer.
	To some, Altman could be awkward, even antisocial.
	Even when he throws a party, he retreats into his room pretty quickly.
	He has a timer or social clock where he needs to stop socializing, said investor Lakigroom, a close friend.
	He's not a schmoozer.
	Another close friend, investor Keith Rabois, recalled how when he first met Altman, he spent their first hangout glued to two different phones.
	Oh, he's so introverted.
	He's so smart.
	If you're an introvert, you're not on two phones, let me tell you right now.
	I never met anyone as smart as Sam, said Senator Kyrsten Sinema.
	You're right, this sounds exactly like Bankman Freed.
	This is Kyrsten Sinema.
	You sure you're reading the right thing there?
	Different Sam.
	He's an introvert, and shy, and humble, and all of those...
	are things that are not normal for people on the Hill, but he's very good at forming relationships with people on the Hill, and he can help folks in government understand AI.
	I thought he wasn't a schmoozer.
	Something's up.
	Oh, yes.
	But this is just, I mean, it was dripping with goo, this entire article.
	Well, what's up is they're hyping this.
	They're just hyping it.
	Yeah, but why?
	What's going on?
	There's another op.
	The stock market.
	That's all they got.
	They need a story.
	It was Sam Bankman Freed when it was blockchain.
	This is what I keep telling you.
	Quantum computing is next.
	The pivot is coming.
	No, it's not.
	It's done over.
	When the next thing comes along, we'll both have our eye out for it, and the next big thing, which is a Silicon Valley derisive term used for Silicon Valley, the next big thing, when it comes around, we'll notice it probably within a week or two of it happening, and then we can point to it.
	At this moment, I'm I'm still saying I see little green shoots of quantum computing bullcrap.
	I see it.
	I see it.
	It's trying to survive.
	Then I have a question here for you.
	Two lawmakers filed a bill requiring creators of foundation models, you know, foundation models are I guess something more important than LLMs.
	To disclose sources of training data so copyright holders know their information was taken.
	Here's my question.
	When I write something and I put it on the internet and I publish it on my blog, Mm-hmm.
	The minute I wrote that, I have copyright on that, correct or not?
	Under the new law, yes, and you don't even have to declare it.
	It's automatic.
	So, by definition, unless I've given my rights up to, let's say, X, because when I post on X, I've already agreed that they have an unlimited license to anything I do forever, then they can't use my training data.
	Or my data for training purposes of their foundation models.
	Why?
	Because they're going to have a bill requiring creators of foundation models to disclose sources of training data so copyright holders know their information was taken.
	Was your information actually taken or just read by a machine?
	I read, for example, I'm kind of on the other side of this argument.
	Because I've always been annoyed by the fact that early on in the 70s and then into the 80s, people were talking about all the great things that could happen when all the data is accumulated into some giant library, all the books of the world, and all the knowledge can be accessed.
	And it became a buzz phrase.
	Yes.
	Information at your fingertips.
	Information superhighway.
	Well, the information superhighway is part of that.
	And so you had all this, and then once Google started scanning books, everybody started squealing like stuck pigs about it.
	I scanned my book!
	You know, your out-of-print book from 40 years ago got scanned by Google and you're upset about it because you're going to lose money somehow?
	You're not going to make a nickel anyway.
	And so I noticed that there's this kind of, you know, this back and forth and whether this is good for society or bad for society.
	I personally think it's good for society that everything gets scanned into some giant database.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, then enjoy your AI.
	Your chat GPT is dynamite.
	All good.
	I never said anything about... I never... What you're doing is extrapolating a simple comment by me into something that's got nothing to do with anything.
	That's what I do best.
	I'm not enjoying my chat GPT.
	I don't even use it.
	I don't use GBT.
	Oh, but I love people who send me emails.
	Hey man, you have no idea how good it is at coding.
	Yeah, you're a script guy, you know, and I'm sure, but it's not going to optimize the next, you know, Mac OS for the new chips.
	No, it doesn't.
	JC, who works in this industry, and he's an AI, he says it's nonsense.
	He says you'd still get better code from Pakistan and they do lousy coding.
	He says it's cheaper and better to get real life coders and maybe the AI can clean up some stuff that might be, or might optimize something on the side, but it can't write code from scratch.
	It's no good.
	No, I think your code is going to be the same as it writes English, flowery.
	In an ever-expanding... Yeah, overdone.
	In an ever-expanding world where podcasting... I mean, a comic strip blogger who is, you know, he has a career now in this stuff.
	And he keeps saying, oh, look, look what ChatGPT4 said about podcasting 2.0.
	I'm like, well, you know, a 12-year-old could have written that.
	So what?
	And whenever it's from Grok, I recognize the tweets.
	It's like, oh, this, I recognize that tweet, that tweet, that tweet.
	I recognize, because if it's about me, like, oh, look what Grok said about you.
	I put Grok into funny mode.
	Grok is the worst kind, because it's AI that can't even do humor right.
	So.
	Anyway.
	People will call me a Luddite.
	You are a Luddite!
	Dude, say what you will.
	I'm not afraid of you.
	Use that clip at the beginning, or put it under the list.
	I already clapped.
	I'll do it again, hold on.
	You!
	My frie- nah, never mind.
	I'm gonna ham it up.
	I'm gonna ruin it.
	Nah, just try it one more time.
	No wonder I can't get work.
	And go, and go, and go!
	You're a Luddite!
	Nice, okay.
	I will be sure not to use that.
	Alright.
	Okay, I got some stuff here that we need to talk about.
	Okay, yeah, good.
	Well, first of all, you know I had this thesis about the- No, first of all, first of all, thank you.
	Thank you for joining me today for our Christmas Eve.
	You know, we could be doing lots of things if we work for CBS.
	Yeah, people should need to be reminded of that.
	Here we are, we're warning you, we're helping you, we're spinning you down.
	On Christmas Eve, I should be drinking nog.
	Nog.
	You should be drinking Nog.
	Nog.
	I want to be drinking Nog.
	Yeah.
	No, we're working because it's important work.
	Yes, it is.
	So I had this thing, I'm bitching and moaning about the Houthis and why don't we just, we got satellites, why don't we just bomb.
	Bomb the Houthis.
	The Houthis.
	So I'm not, I'm not convinced that this is all us to sell our, our LPG, our oil, whatever.
	Oh yeah.
	To sell it all to Europe.
	There's actually, I agree with that, but this guy, a book writer, is on NTD, and they're going to discuss, they introduced him so you know his name, who's the discussion about the weak response.
	And I have these clips from NTD, and I thought this guy had it nailed, and he's got kind of a different angle.
	So here we go.
	Thanks for joining me here today, Lee Smith.
	The U.S.' 's response to the Houthi attacks has been called weak by some political and national security analysts.
	What's your assessment of the U.S.' 's response to attacks, and how do you think this response will be interpreted by Iran, which backs the Houthis?
	Well, I certainly agree that it's been a very weak response.
	And the main reason for it, of course, is because the Biden administration wants to renew the nuclear deal with Iran.
	And so the Biden administration is already concerned that Israel is attacking another Iranian asset, Hamas, in Gaza.
	And so the idea that the United States itself would protect itself as well as protecting shipping lanes.
	This is beyond the pale for the Biden administration, because, again, the key foreign policy initiative of the Biden administration is to get back into that nuclear deal.
	That was the key foreign policy initiative of Barack Obama, and so Biden wants to get back into it.
	Huh.
	Wow!
	Well, I just want to remind us that my buddy Lex in Holland, who is married to an Iranian, Fariba, that she visits regularly.
	She's over there.
	And we saw her when we were in Holland, when we went on a trip this summer.
	And she always says, everybody in Iran knows that America and Iran are always working together.
	It's all a show.
	Well, there you have it.
	I think that she might be correct.
	Let's go with part two of this clip.
	And let me ask you this too.
	We know that Iran and the Chinese Communist Party are allies, right?
	And work together to undermine the U.S.
	Is there a role that the CCP could be playing in this?
	Well, I'm sure the CCP couldn't be unhappy about this, that it has, you know, that it's shaken the world's confidence in the United States' ability to protect shipping lanes.
	And remember, the United States has been doing this since the end of World War II.
	This is one of the most important things that the United States does.
	And it's important for the entire world, or certainly for the free world, for Europe, for us and our other allies, And the idea that the Iranians, through the Houthis, have shaken the world's confidence since the United States is not firing back, that weakens not only America's prestige, right?
	But it also is going to cost other countries, it's going to cost industries a lot more to ship these goods around the world.
	This is a scam.
	So it's a scam.
	It's so obvious.
	And so he goes on and on one would analyze this.
	But I just took this last piece just right straight up with a really interesting assertion.
	We will not protect the shipping lanes because we have a we have another chief interest, which is a nuclear deal with Iran that guarantees Iran's nuclear weapons program.
	It doesn't stop it.
	That's a very important understanding.
	It doesn't stop it.
	Rather, it makes it legitimate.
	That's the point of the nuclear deal.
	So the message, the larger message that the Biden administration is sending to the world is, you think things are bad now in shipping lanes around the world?
	Wait until Iran, which backs the Houthis, get a nuclear bomb.
	Then everyone's going to have to be paying off the Iranians And their allies to be able to ship their goods across the world.
	So it's an insanely destructive message that the Biden administration is sending to the world.
	You know, the tip off for me, which I didn't hear a single U.S.
	media or I was expecting at least a BBC report on it, that the French walked away from Operation Prosperity Guardian.
	They said, no, we're not going to participate in this.
	And I think the Greeks said, screw you, we're not going to be a part of this.
	Now, why would the French leave?
	The French.
	Is it time to break out the Freedom Fries again?
	Why would the French leave?
	I think it's because of Total Oil.
	They're like, oh, you guys are screwing us.
	Yeah.
	You're screwing our oil.
	I'd say that's probably true.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Total really is half of France.
	Yeah.
	So, this is, this makes no sense.
	No, Tom Hanks needs to do a movie.
	He already did one about the Somali pirates.
	So, this whole thing... When are they going to have the... It stinks.
	It stinks to high heaven.
	When are they going to have that nuclear bomb?
	Two weeks?
	Is it just around the corner?
	It's always going to be two weeks.
	Just around the corner, I'm sure.
	Well, once they get back on track, I'm sure it'll go a little faster, but after having Trump come in and disrupt everything, that didn't help, and it's not going to help if Trump gets back in office.
	At least it's not through these schemes, these one-world government schemes, the way I see them.
	I mean, now I'm also thinking that whole thing that Trump uncovered, that we're going to attack Iran, that's probably a gambit too.
	All right, now we're going to pretend we're going to attack you guys.
	We're going to do something over here, and then we'll do this, and then, you know.
	Oh, actually, maybe that document implies that.
	Ooh, that would be even better.
	And that's why it's secret.
	He probably buried that with Ivana as well.
	It's in the coffin.
	You just have to dig her up.
	Dig her up?
	Dig her up.
	Now, normally, we have a veto on playing this guy, but I think... Oh, no.
	Yes, yes.
	Can I guess who it is?
	You already know.
	You already know.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Is it John Kerry?
	Of course it is.
	You got it.
	But... Ugh.
	But, is John... You know, I have not... You've been doing this.
	I know.
	Well, because of the COP 28.
	You're in clear violation of the treaty.
	Well, it's COP 28, so, you know, I have a veto in the Security Council.
	In the CLIP Council.
	So we're summing up COP 28 and the big news that came out of COP 28 is we actually, Chad GPT used the line, transition away from fossil fuels, fools.
	And then there's a second part to it, to reach a net zero economy, which is code for carbon credits because Net zero doesn't mean that we're not using fossil fuels.
	It means that we are buying pieces of Africa.
	Then you just call that a carbon sink.
	You know, we plant some trees.
	This kind of stuff.
	But this was the bill.
	This was so, this is fantastic.
	We did our job.
	It took us 28 cops.
	28 cops and we finally did it.
	I'm John Kerry.
	Now the beauty of this is it's Christiane Amanpour.
	Who I'm now convinced is so dumb.
	She has that elitist vibe over her.
	And for years, you know, he's like, oh, you know, she's Christiane Anonpour.
	I'm Christiane Anonpour.
	My poop don't stink.
	Well, she's dumb.
	President Biden's top climate envoy John Kerry says only greed can now get in the way of combating climate change.
	Kerry was right at the centre of the high-stakes deal-making at COP28 in Dubai, where remarkably all 195 nations agreed to transition away from fossil fuels.
	Earlier this week, he and I talked about age, activism, and how hard it was to get to that agreement.
	Because first of all, the whole notion that this was a big deal to transition away from Fossil Fools, I mean, is this not what they've been saying for 15 years?
	Well, here's the other aspect to this.
	They actually wanted, and we had clips, I don't know if we even replayed them, from COP28, where they didn't want, the wording was not transition away, it was eliminate.
	Yes, exactly.
	And the guy was one of the head honchos of one of the big Middle East oil companies.
	He was running the show.
	And he managed to change it from eliminate to transition away from, which is what they've kind of been doing, you know.
	Transition away doesn't mean anything.
	It's meaningless.
	That's what Elon Musk has been helping with.
	That's what it is.
	Transition away from fossil fuels.
	Okay.
	Secretary Kerry, welcome back to the program.
	It's good to be back.
	There was a lot written about how you were able to leverage, if that's the right way, your contacts with the Saudi, with the U.S.
	Remember, isn't his daughter married to, like, some Iranian dude?
	I can't remember the relationships.
	I'm remembering that.
	Anyway, I'm John Kerry.
	I did it all.
	With the Chinese official et al.
	Tell me just what it was like in terms of personal negotiation, getting them to sign on the dotted line.
	Well, it's really tough.
	I mean, this is as tough as any multilateral negotiation gets.
	When you have economic interests and different capacities, different capabilities, different amounts of money, different cultures, different economies, and you bring them all together in a multilateral forum.
	I think people who expect them to all of a sudden, you know, terminate what they're doing are just not operating on the reality of how multilateral governance works.
	It's the hardest kind of all.
	And what happened in... Multilateral governance, New World Order, is the hardest of all.
	But I'm John Kerry.
	is that 195 countries actually came to a consensus.
	Any one of them could have blocked.
	Any one country could have walked away and said, no, we're not doing this.
	They didn't.
	They gathered together and said, time for a transition away from fossil fuels with acceleration in the 2020s, commensurate with net zero 2050, and in keeping with the Paris Agreement, which means keeping 1.5 degrees alive.
	If there's one thing that worries you, what is it?
	Well, what worries me now is greed.
	And procrastination.
	And business as usual.
	And people who just aren't going to step up.
	This is a perfect example of what you zeg ben jezelf met je kop door de helft.
	The greed part?
	That's you!
	That's you, all those people there, they're in it for the greed.
	Oh, I can sell carbon credits.
	Oh, we don't have to be done until 2050.
	John Kerry... Yeah, let's set up an exchange.
	Yeah, John Kerry will be dead in 2050 because he's well into his 80s now, I think, or he's 80.
	I don't know.
	I think so.
	I'm going to check it out.
	Doesn't matter.
	Let's talk about Trump.
	If you're the envoy for President Biden, what happens if Biden doesn't get elected and the climate, you know, I don't even know what to call him, the climate agreement puller-outer.
	The climate agreement puller-outer!
	That is your elitist Christiane Anampour there.
	He's actually 80.
	You're right.
	I don't even know what to call Trump, but a climate agreement puller-outer.
	He's a puller-outer.
	Puller-outer.
	We've known he's a puller-outer.
	He's a puller-outer of the first order.
	Climate, you know, I don't even know what to call him.
	The climate agreement puller-outer of Donald Trump, which he did, you know, after 2015, comes back.
	Yeah, but let me tell you something.
	Let me tell you, even while Donald Trump was President of the United States and he pulled out of the Paris Agreement, 37 governors, Republican and Democrat alike in the states of America, all continued to apply the Paris Agreement, even while Donald Trump was out of the agreement.
	This is a lie!
	What do you mean?
	Did we send money to China?
	Did Texas send money to South America?
	That's the agreement, puller-outer!
	75% of the new electricity in the United States that came online came from renewables.
	Now he probably didn't know it or he tried to stop it, but the bottom line is he now, nobody can stop this now.
	The economies of the world have made this decision.
	I think no one politician anywhere in the world can undo the direction the world is now moving in.
	Particularly the young people who are really there for it and won't allow it to go and die a quiet death.
	The young people are not puller-outers.
	At all.
	At all.
	Alright, now, after this, after this clip, I want you to write this down.
	December 24th, 2023.
	After this clip, I will never play John Kerry again.
	Oh, bullshit!
	Bullcrap!
	You think he's gonna die or something?
	What do you got going on here?
	This is the end.
	He's done his job.
	He has done what no one can do.
	Oh, you think he's retiring?
	He's done.
	He's done.
	He's out.
	He will no longer be around.
	He's already talking about how great he is.
	He'll tell his grandchildren how great he is.
	This is it.
	It's his swan song.
	Sayonara.
	You just celebrated your 80th birthday, still going strong.
	What line can you draw from that, from the young man who came back and told his country that this war is the wrong war, to today, to what you will tell your grandchildren about what's been achieved after this COP28?
	What will you tell them about their future?
	Well, that we can make a difference, that all of us being citizens and being active and being engaged, we have that freedom, that power to make a difference.
	The struggle for us a little bit now in the United States and elsewhere is to make sure that the truth is on the table, that we are ratifying truth, not disinformation, not bad ideology.
	And I think that You know, in so many ways, the journey we traveled, I wrote the title of my autobiography after I left as secretary is, Every Day is Extra.
	That comes from a saying that many of the guys on my crew and many of the people I grew there... My crew?
	Felt that responsibility because we survived and we came back.
	Wait, but wasn't he a traitor?
	Why do I remember that he was a traitor?
	Didn't he throw his medals in the water or something?
	Oh, he threw, uh, but it was a lie.
	Supposedly he, during some protest, I think anti-war protest in Vietnam, he supposedly threw his medals into some, you know, burning heap.
	But then somebody found out that he'd bought some medals at a pawn shop and threw those in.
	That's the rumor.
	It was the Swift Boat thing.
	And then he had the Swift Boat where he'd come out, I'm ready for duty.
	He comes out at the convention, I'm ready for duty!
	And he salutes the crowd and then he has the Swift Boat.
	Then the Swift Boat guys came out and said, he's full of crap, this guy's a phony.
	Yeah, he's a phony baloney, this guy.
	He's always been.
	Yeah, but now he's talking about his crew.
	My crew.
	What, a two-life crew?
	What are you, a hip-hop guy now?
	That comes from a saying that many of the guys on my crew and many of the people I knew there... I run with them, some bad dudes.
	Help that responsibility because we survived and we came back.
	And so you treat every day as extra.
	And when you say to me, you know, I'm 80 years old, I don't think about age.
	Honestly, I don't.
	The other day I said to my friends when we were gathered, I said, you know, at 80, I can do everything I used to do when I was 50.
	But I don't remember what it is.
	Oh, good one.
	On that note, that's not true, by the way.
	OK, good.
	Oh, no, really?
	Yeah, I guess not.
	So it must really tick you off all this stuff about Biden and his age.
	It does.
	I think it's sort of an ageism.
	He's done a brilliant job, I think, as president.
	He's been able to galvanize people around critical values that are at stake in ukraine critical values i don't know what has happened to a lot of people who back away from that now because the cost of not persevering would be just extraordinary for the world and i think he knows how the congress works he knows america and he also knows how the world works and that's what you need today thank you very much thank you yeah
	goodbye john carrey banned forever so you think that you show you Yep, he's done.
	are putting this date down, Christmas 2023, as a swan song.
	Yep, he's done.
	He's out.
	That's bullcrap.
	There's no way a guy like that's out.
	He's done.
	He's done.
	No, he's done.
	He's done on this show.
	There will be no more clips of John Kerry.
	I don't know about that.
	I'm going to bring clips in.
	He might as well be dead to us.
	He's dead to me.
	He's dead to me.
	Now, I will say the one thing that I was absolutely right on was this And it started in the EU, and I said, you watch, this is a thing.
	And it is indeed.
	It's the green hydrogen.
	Hydrogen is all about now.
	We're moving away from wind and solar because that's no good.
	It's all about the hydrogen.
	And hydrogen producers could soon be eligible for billions of dollars in tax credits through the Inflation Protection Act.
	The Biden administration today released its proposal to boost the hydrogen industry as a cleaner alternative to fossil fuels.
	Under the proposal, cleaner energy projects would get the most tax credits.
	Those that use fossil fuels to produce hydrogen would still get them, but in smaller amounts.
	Hydrogen production credits could deliver $140 billion in revenue and 700,000 jobs by the year 2030.
	Mm-hmm.
	Sure.
	How's that hydrogen working for you?
	That has no future.
	I have a climate... What is this climate change mini-clip?
	Well, should we have a listen?
	Yeah.
	50 plus architecture, landscape, architecture and design offices have participated in this exhibition.
	They've come together to creatively design an entire city, which is edible.
	An edible city?
	Yeah, that's that's right.
	They're going to do that.
	Where was that?
	Where was that from?
	That's hilarious.
	This story was about a About climate change, but they decided they're going to do a green gingerbread city designed by the world's top architects.
	Oh.
	And so they designed this thing and it turned out to be edible.
	I thought just that sub clip itself was funny.
	Where's Sir Mark and Dame Astrid when we're designing a gingerbread city?
	Those guys could do it.
	They could do it and they're going to be involved in today's Dame Astrid for sure on today's donation segment.
	I saw it come in.
	She contributed money to us.
	She still listens.
	Are you doing a show on Tuesday with the Horwitz?
	Of course.
	Well, could I?
	It's after Christmas.
	He doesn't care about Christmas.
	I mean, he's Jewish.
	And so the joke is, I always like to chide him about it.
	He totally confirms this.
	Most Jews go and eat Chinese dinners on Christmas.
	And it's like a tradition, which means that they observe Christmas or they wouldn't have a tradition around Christmas.
	And he has no problem saying Merry Christmas to me.
	No, of course not.
	You know what?
	I love him because he's one of those Jews who loves cooking up lobsters.
	He's boasting about it all the time.
	That guy, he knows how to cook.
	It's obvious he's a good cook.
	He knows how to cook.
	Only he's a little bit nuts about it.
	He's way over the... He goes out of control.
	He's out of control.
	He'll cook for 25 people, nobody in their right mind.
	Who knows how to cook well.
	Will cook for 25 people.
	It's just too much work.
	It's ridiculous.
	You get a caterer and have them do it.
	You just don't do it.
	But he'll do it.
	Yeah.
	I love Andrew.
	And Jill.
	They're some very fine people.
	They're very fine people.
	They're very fine people.
	I have a question about how this will work, because what the new President Millet of Argentina said he would do, he has done.
	He re-pegged the peso, the peso's been pegged, and it's not, he promised it would be bad, but it's bad.
	Economic shock treatment is the only solution, according to the new Argentinian president.
	In a televised address, Javier Mele said he would repeal more than 300 laws in a bid to reboot the country's struggling economy.
	Today I've signed a decree of necessity and urgency to begin to unblock the oppressive legal and institutional framework that's destroyed our country.
	Among the announcements made on Wednesday are a reform of labor law, the scrapping of a law regulating rent, and the elimination of rules preventing the privatization of state enterprises.
	But before the measures can take effect, they must first be assessed by a joint committee of lawmakers from both chambers.
	And Malay's far-right party only has 40 seats in the 257-member lower house, and seven senators out of 72.
	Fearing street protests, the government threatened to take away demonstrators' social welfare benefits, which didn't stop these Argentinians marching in Buenos Aires on Wednesday.
	You won't let them take our freedom.
	It costs too much.
	They're taking people off buses, asking for documents and banning protests.
	Is the dictatorship back?
	Is that what those who voted for Malay want?
	On Monday, Argentina's Minister for Human Capital issued a warning via social media.
	Those blocking streets won't be paid.
	The move to discourage protests was declared unconstitutional by opposition MPs.
	In Argentina, one in two citizens receive aid from the state or an organization.
	Okay, so I should mention DH Unplugged every Tuesday.
	It's an hour-long casual conversation between money manager Andrew Horowitz and columnist John C. DeVore.
	And so my question is, how does this mechanism work when you want to stop rampant inflation, you then re-peg, everything becomes 30 to 50% more expensive overnight, half the people from the report It stops inflation pretty quickly.
	handouts.
	I mean, what's the mechanism?
	This is not the first time this has been done.
	How does it work?
	What is I mean, does it last two months, two years?
	How does it work?
	How is this going to help everybody in the end?
	It stops inflation pretty quickly.
	This was done in Brazil.
	This has been done in Argentina, I think a couple of times.
	And once you repeg, yeah, it goes, everything goes up.
	It seems to go up 30%, but it's been going up 15 or 20% a month anyway.
	So if it goes up 30% once and then stops going up, That seems to be a benefit.
	Yeah, okay, things are gonna be a little more expensive for the short term.
	Brazilians did it, they took in, they had these different, first time I went to Brazil, I went during the period of hyperinflation, and I still have a couple of bills, the Crisero's bill, and I have one that's 500,000, and it was worth, originally it was worth like about a dollar, And then it became worth less and less and less and they just got rid of it completely.
	They had two different versions of it.
	They got rid of it and brought in something called the Real, which means real.
	And it was pegged to the dollar one to one.
	And it pretty much stopped inflation.
	And one of the things I think that caused the inflation to stop dead is what Milton Friedman said.
	We had a clip, we played it, where he discusses something in one of the states during the Civil War where they're having this inflation problem and they just stopped printing money and the inflation stopped.
	It was just that simple and that easy and that's exactly what this amounts to.
	Here is the clip, I believe this is the one you're referring to, 40 years ago on inflation's cause.
	Would that be the clip?
	Could be.
	In the modern era, the important next step is to recognize that today governments control the quantity of money.
	So that as a result, Inflation in the United States is made in Washington and nowhere else.
	Of course!
	No government, any more than any one of us, likes to take responsibility for bad things.
	We're all of us human.
	If something bad happens, it wasn't our fault.
	I don't think this is a clip, but I want to play it out.
	Yeah, play it.
	And the government is the same way.
	So it doesn't accept responsibility for inflation.
	If you listen to people in Washington talk, They will tell you that inflation is produced by greedy businessmen.
	Or it's produced by grasping unions.
	Or it's produced by spendthrift consumers.
	Or maybe it's those terrible Arab sheiks who are producing it.
	Yeah, those guys.
	Now, of course, businessmen are greedy.
	Who of us isn't?
	Trade unions are grasping.
	Who of us isn't?
	And there's no doubt that the consumer is a spendthrift.
	At least every man knows that about his wife.
	But none of them produce inflation for the very simple reason that neither the businessman nor the trade union nor the housewife has a printing press in their basement on which they can turn out those green pieces of paper we call money.
	Only Washington has that printing press and therefore only Washington can produce inflation.
	So what do we do with our rampant inflation in the United States, where our debt payments on almost $34 trillion is now $1.7 trillion, which is more than we give to the military-industrial complex?
	Can we peg ourselves to our own dollar?
	Well, we tend to do that, yeah.
	So you pay off the debt with cheaper money.
	But how do we do that?
	What do we do?
	We just devalue the dollar?
	It never happens.
	No, so we don't tend to do that is what you're saying.
	Well, it's always on the table.
	The result of this... Or we can let inflation go nuts.
	If it goes up like crazy like it did in the 70s, it fixes that for a while.
	Well, it seems to me if you look at the lay of the land, Because now, effectively, the whole Suez Canal, Red Sea, the whole thing, all the way down to the Gulf of Aden, where we know the Stargate is.
	Yeah, and you know what comes through that Stargate?
	Yes.
	Fish.
	Yes.
	Only when it's open, then the fish come out.
	Already we're hearing, oh, supply chain, supply chain, which I think could be used to blame inflation on.
	Yeah, code.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, it's the Houthis.
	The Houthi price hike.
	So the answer, which we've been discussing for a long time, is universal basic income.
	And PBS NewsHour had John Yang, I mean, Michael Tubbs.
	I think he's the mayor of Stockton?
	Because this has been one of those experiments in Stockton, where they give people money as a, they don't call it universal basic income, they call it something else.
	Yeah, giving people money.
	It's called giving people money.
	But the people are getting serious about this.
	You want to hear some clips of this?
	Yes, I would like to hear some clips.
	It's not a new idea.
	No strings attached payments to provide people with a financial floor.
	What's called a guaranteed basic income.
	It actually dates back to 16th century England.
	Today it's being tested in dozens of pilot programs.
	Is there any evidence of that?
	Did they use it in the 1500s in England?
	They gave people a universal basic income?
	I'm sure there was some sort of giveaway going on back in the day that has been misinterpreted as such.
	Across the country?
	Don't you think?
	Probably.
	In cities as big as Baltimore and as small as Yellow Springs, Ohio, population about 3,700.
	Some of them use taxpayer funds, others use private contributions or foundation grants.
	Stockton, California, was among the first to launch a pilot program in 2019.
	Earlier, I spoke with Stockton's mayor at the time, Michael Tubbs.
	He's also founder of a group called Mayors for a Guaranteed Income.
	I asked him about the genesis of Stockton's program.
	Guaranteed income, there it is.
	That the crux of all the issues from homelessness to crime to education was this persistent poverty and economic insecurity.
	So, in my first 100 days, I gathered my team in the office and I said, you guys, I want our legacy to be an anti-poverty, a pro-economic security administration.
	So, let's come up with All the ideas for how can we as a government ensure that people have enough to live and survive and eventually thrive.
	And through that, my team came back with this idea of a guaranteed income, citing work that was happening in places like Kenya and in Mexico and in Brazil.
	And I had heard the guaranteed income from studying Dr. King in college, so I was familiar with the idea.
	So I said, well, let's do it.
	I love that we're now on the level of Kenya.
	In Brazil.
	Yeah, that's that's getting pretty bad.
	And there's a whole I think this is possibly a plan for Democrats for 2024.
	And honestly, you know, everyone pays attention when Oh, you're gonna give me money.
	The no strings attached?
	Well, this is a classic potential Democrat promise to the black community, which they never deliver on.
	And they should all remember that welfare reform, which was throwing a lot of money in that direction, was promoted and implemented by Bill Clinton, another Democrat, who pulled all that money back.
	But yeah, it looks like a promise.
	This is not going to happen, at least in the short term.
	Did you say black community?
	I said black community.
	All right, so let's find out.
	What did he find?
	I think I can say the black voter.
	There you go.
	That tends to vote Democrat.
	And as I understand it, the program ran for two years.
	You had 125 participants from neighborhoods where the median income was at or below the city's median, which I think was about $46,000.
	They got $500 a month for two years.
	What did you find?
	This is, by the way, $46,000.
	a month for two years.
	What did you find?
	This is, by the way, $46,000.
	I mean, I know people in New York City who make less than that.
	So people would pay attention.
	Oh, I'd be eligible for something like this.
	So many people said the money would be spent on drugs and alcohol, or that people would stop working, or that people would use that money to commit crimes, etc.
	And what we saw was that people spend money the way you and I and the viewers spend money.
	We saw them be two times less likely to be unemployed.
	We saw them spend the money on things like utilities, on necessities, on food and on their children.
	But we also saw health impacts.
	We saw those with a guaranteed income saw their stress decrease.
	Just a small amount of money was enough, not for people to become millionaires, but for people not to be evicted, for people to take care of their children, for people to be able to pay to get their car fixed, for people to live and contribute to their communities.
	It sounds like this was a raging success.
	No one bought drugs.
	I mean, is that how they use the money?
	So everything you just said sort of contradicts or counters what the critics say.
	Because the critics say that this takes away the incentive to work.
	That this will foster bad spending decisions.
	But it sounds like that's not what you found in Stockton.
	That's not what we found in Stockton, and increasingly, from any of the dozens of pilots happening across this country and this world consistently, which suggests to me, John, that part of the issue is not just a data issue, but a storytelling issue, that we have to get people to see the myths, the lies, the prejudices, the stereotypes, and the biases we have against people who may have less money.
	Yeah, let's go to the myths and the lies because this guy thinks that Social Security is just like a, like a thing that the government's just nicely giving to people.
	Skips the whole point of you pay into Social Security your entire life.
	I think he's setting us up for a, you know, there's not going to be any Social Security because that money, as you've pointed out, John, is gone.
	It's been used.
	Stolen.
	It's stolen.
	So, you know, do some local tax and give people money from that.
	Do you see guaranteed income programs supplementing government assistance programs or replacing government assistance programs?
	I see it as a supplemental.
	I see it really as an extension of the social safety net.
	I see it as our 21st century social security.
	In the Great Depression, we decided that folks who are older deserve to have a little bit of cushion post 65 because they've done so much for our communities and I also think because they've done so much for our communities no because they paid that money in you're supposed to steward it then you didn't you stole it And I also think our current government programs should take note about what makes guaranteed income works.
	Because A, it's the money, but B, it's also the trust.
	That maybe people don't need to do a bunch of paperwork.
	Maybe folks don't need someone to sit down and make them come in and set goals.
	Maybe a lot of folks just need cash.
	And maybe that will make some of the investments we're making as a government that much more efficient.
	They're banking on people not noticing this.
	Oh, it's gone.
	Yeah, I'm sorry, it's just gone.
	This is the final clip.
	Where are we going to get the money from?
	These programs, the pilot programs, some of them use government money, some of them use private donations, some of them use grant money from foundations.
	If you were able to make this permanent across the country, how do you think it should be funded?
	We are able to make this permanent across the country.
	And again, I think the child tax credit is a huge start, which is a guaranteed income, albeit for families with children.
	So state governments, county governments, local governments, we're doing pilots there because those governments can't deficit spend.
	They have to have a balanced budget every year.
	Our federal government can.
	And we do.
	We can also raise revenue.
	We can legalize cannabis nationwide and use the tax revenue for that to pay for guaranteed income.
	We can close the 2017 Trump tax cuts, which gave $2 trillion away to the riches among us.
	And we can close other tax loopholes.
	Bullcrap.
	A guaranteed income.
	There's no shortage of ways of paying for it.
	I really believe the question is how do we build the wheel?
	How do we make it a necessity?
	It's a political question.
	We have to organize and demand of our elected officials that this is what we need and let them know this is not scary.
	This is not an extreme position.
	This is not a utopian position.
	This is a position that Republicans and Democrats alike are both suffering, and that's why some of this anger we see, this raging populism we see, comes from economic anxiety in some ways.
	So this is not a partisan issue, which is a long answer to say it's a political question, but we've been doing the work to build political will, and we'll continue pushing until we get there.
	See, I think it will happen.
	I mean, I think this is the plan.
	And now I'm going to go a little Whitney Webb on you, but this is where you bring in your central bank digital currency.
	This is where you can print your money.
	You could make it all magically appear, put it into people's pocket.
	That would be the way to do it.
	Not this, whatever he was saying, like foundations, grant money, no, no, no.
	And this is on PBS, so it's not obscure, you know, they're working this angle.
	Well, they're going to take it.
	It's going to take a lot more work.
	I'm not going to argue that it's not going to happen eventually, because the way things are set up, it has to happen.
	It's almost inevitable, but what the time frame, basic income, the universal basic income.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's inevitable.
	But the time, especially after robbing the Social Security money.
	Oh.
	And then they've ratcheted everybody down.
	I mean, I make money on Social Security and my wife makes half as much.
	And, you know, it's going to be almost nothing.
	Well, of course, she's a woman.
	Of course.
	Well, there you go.
	I never thought of that.
	They're going to implement this somehow, because it's a necessity, and I don't know how it's going to come out.
	It's not going to be good.
	It's going to be something screwed up about it.
	You know that.
	It's government.
	But maybe we won't be around.
	Maybe it'll take a long time.
	I think it's going to take a long time.
	Maybe we can cruise along for a while.
	First they've got to set up the shanty towns.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	This is good news.
	And I have a shantytown story, kind of.
	It's like a street up here in Novato.
	I didn't know anything about this.
	I was watching this on the news.
	Where's this clip?
	Yeah, good question.
	It's on here.
	Homeless Novato solution.
	Gotcha.
	That would probably be the clip.
	Campers began showing up on Binford Road in rural Novato shortly after the 2017 Tubbs fire made a lot of Sonoma County residents homeless.
	Over the years it's grown thanks to the pandemic, the economy, and high cost of living.
	Dino Montarello moved his trailer here from Sonoma County about eight months ago and says a lot of the stress has been relieved.
	Here, it's nice because you don't have to worry about the sheriffs coming in and making you move and go to another spot and then making you go to another spot and back and forth.
	In Sonoma, that's what we're doing constantly, constantly.
	Shuffling individuals around or moving them from location to location doesn't really solve anything.
	Marin Supervisor Eric Lukin says the county is taking a more practical approach to the RVs on Binford, making the encampment more livable rather than just trying to remove it.
	They supply portable toilets and hand-washing stations and trash pickup three times a week, so you don't see piles of garbage and junk like at other camps.
	But Lucan says there was a necessary first step.
	Number one, we stopped it from growing any larger.
	We physically closed off spaces on Binford Road to stop the growth.
	As soon as a vehicle leaves a fence or earthen berm is put in its place, slowly the number of people living on Binford has been reduced to 101 individuals.
	Just in the last month, we've seen 10 individuals on Binford Road move into a more permanent housing solution.
	You know, the approach we're taking on Binford is we want the next move that anybody on Binford Road has to make, that next move they should make, should be into a house.
	To encourage that, the county is trying something new.
	An idea that worked to clear out many of the unwanted anchor-out boats in Richardson Harbor.
	They're offering to pay people on Binford Road who find permanent housing $175 per linear foot for their old RVs.
	So in standard RV, that might be $4,000 or $5,000.
	These funds could be used for first, last month's rent, security deposit, or a whole variety of things needed when they make that move.
	Yeah, sure.
	Give me the money.
	Yeah, just give me the money, they're gonna get the money.
	Here's what I think the people experiencing homelessness, and we have a few people listening who have been experiencing homelessness.
	Sure, they have to by the numbers we have, we have to have quite a few actually.
	One of our producers actually sent to boots on the ground, he doesn't say he's homeless, he says he is vanlifing.
	Which I think is a great way of vanlifing.
	He's a vanlifer.
	And he gave me a boots on the ground report about Humboldt Park in Chicago.
	These horrible tents that they've put down for migrants that are not waterproof.
	They're trying to throw plastic over them to waterproof them or make them a little bit warmer.
	What kind of a tent is not waterproof?
	Well, they're these orange things that are kind of like geodesic dome tents.
	They're no good.
	And I was thinking, considering all the reports we're seeing about the migration replacement program from the United Nations into mainly the United States, but of course all over Western Europe, is your best bet is to find one of these One of these people who works for these agencies, these NGOs who shuttle illegal immigrants around.
	You can always, you'll know because they have a clipboard or maybe an umbrella or both, and just go over there and say, no ingles!
	And then you'll get a debit card, you'll get a phone, the Obama phone, you can get a piece of paper that you can travel to any city you want.
	This is, people are mad!
	Everybody's seeing this now.
	People are mad about these long lines to get on the plane.
	Paying customers now have to wait while the illegal migrants get on.
	They board first.
	They don't have to show any ID.
	People are mad!
	This is, this is, they've, Biden has screwed this one up.
	They really, you know, oh, well, it's Texas.
	It's Texas.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	They're coming from Arizona.
	They're coming from, and they're, they're getting on flights.
	Oh, it's Texas.
	No, no.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought you said something.
	No, I just mumbled Texas.
	I think I have a migration update.
	It says Miration, but it's actually a migration update on NTD.
	More people are entering the United States illegally this week.
	Fox News on Friday published this video of African men arriving at the southern border, saying only two border agents were on the scene to process all of the people you see here.
	CBP tells the outlet that there have been 45,000 encounters at the border since Monday.
	Able to fill Yankee Stadium in just four days.
	Monday was the highest day of encounters ever recorded with 12,600.
	December is on pace to become the highest month ever.
	Many say they're heading for sanctuary cities.
	New York.
	Chicago.
	Mexico's president on Friday acknowledged the situation is getting worse.
	We will boost as much as we can to help maintain an orderly flow of migrants.
	Recently, there was an abnormal surge of migrants.
	He now says he'll step up efforts on Mexico's southern border with Guatemala and seek agreements to manage higher numbers of immigrants attempting to enter the U.S.
	Higher numbers?
	Oh, well, just manage them.
	Don't worry about it.
	You know, Africa, there are now these so-called travel agencies in Senegal.
	They have websites.
	They have complete packages.
	We'll get you to the U.S.
	Yeah, well the guy in that report, whose voice I love, they showed that mostly Africans coming in.
	That's a lot of Africans.
	But play part two.
	Meanwhile, Texas is now reportedly adding anti-climbing technology to its fences in Brownsville.
	That's by erecting 12 foot tall fences laced with three feet of concertina wire.
	This comes just... I love the anti-climbing technology.
	This comes just days after a court temporarily prohibited the federal government from removing the state's razor wires.
	And lastly, in New York City, the United Federation of Teachers is suing Mayor Eric Adams.
	Back in November, Adams warned of budget cuts for city services.
	It's going to be extremely painful for New Yorkers, and that is why we continue to say we need help.
	The mayor now wants to cut half a billion dollars from education in order to deal with the influx of illegal immigrants.
	Oh, this is great.
	Alright, I have one clip from Chicago, just so we can hear what Chicago has done, because, you know, it's Texas.
	These people, the one you just heard, they're getting on planes flying to Chicago.
	But okay, it's Texas.
	It's that horrible Texans government.
	I can't believe that governor.
	That guy's no good.
	If he wasn't in a wheelchair, I'd beat him up.
	So, they've now put a rule in place in Chicago.
	That if you're coming in with a bus with illegal immigrants, then you have to call up five days ahead of time to get permission.
	Yeah, or they impound the bus.
	Of course, no one's going to, because you're not going to get permission from the sanctuary city.
	So no, no, no.
	So they're just dropping them off anywhere now.
	Bus companies from Texas are dropping off migrants in areas outside Chicago.
	Friday night, Hinsdale became the latest suburb to see migrants dropped off without advance warning.
	City officials say communication has broken down between Chicago and officials along the southern border.
	Buses transporting migrants are avoiding the city's designated landing zone.
	This is in response to tougher penalties for bus owners who violate a new city ordinance.
	This week, migrants were dropped off in areas like Wooddale, Aurora, and Kankakee.
	Kankakee Sheriff Mike Downey says migrants were found walking on Interstate 57.
	They were dropped off Thursday morning at a truck stop.
	They were told they had reached Chicago.
	He says migrants were wrapped in blankets and several children were among them.
	They all came from El Paso, Texas.
	His office is working on tracking down the bus company.
	Meanwhile in Aurora... We didn't turn anyone away and I hope that as you all leave this room today you have that clear.
	Aurora City leaders held a special meeting Friday afternoon to discuss the influx of migrants arriving by bus at the Aurora Transportation Center.
	They say migrants are being encouraged to board Metro trains and head to Chicago.
	They passed an emergency ordinance requiring bus companies to now give a five-day notice to get approval for a drop-off along with a detailed care plan for their passengers.
	It's necessary for us to be responsible and take those steps to protect Not only those individuals that are being dropped off here in Aurora, those migrants, but also protect the residents of Aurora.
	And again, just today migrants were seen boarding trains from Aurora to Chicago.
	That new ordinance in Aurora going into effect tonight.
	Buses in violation will be facing fines and potential forfeiture of their bus.
	This is the single issue that makes Biden unelectable, unreelectable.
	Americans are sick of it.
	They're sick of it because it's not like we don't hate these people.
	But no, just stop.
	This is ridiculous.
	Have you seen the Eagle Pass video?
	Yeah, wow.
	It's like Disneyland lines.
	And we're like Disneyland.
	This is totally crazy.
	So what does Biden do?
	Uh, I'll go talk to Mexico.
	In the town of Eagle Pass, hundreds of people wait in the cold to be processed by U.S.
	border officials.
	In recent weeks, illegal border crossings have seen a surge, straining immigration services.
	President Biden, who is seeking re-election next year, is trying to regain control of the issue.
	He has been under significant political pressure to curb the numbers.
	I had a chance this morning to speak by phone with President López Obrador of Mexico.
	The two leaders agreed that additional enforcement actions are urgently needed so that key ports of entry can be reopened across our shared border.
	President Biden has asked Secretary of State Tony Blinken Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas and White House Homeland Security Advisor Liz Sherwood-Randall to travel to Mexico in coming days.
	The U.S.
	President has been accused by Republicans of being too lax on immigration.
	In recent weeks, border police have been recording almost 10,000 people crossing the border every day.
	This comes as the governor of Texas signed a bill on Monday effectively criminalizing the illegal entry of migrants with penalties ranging from 180 days in jail to 20 years in prison.
	The law, known as SB4, will also give local authorities the power to deport migrants to Mexico and is set to come into force in March.
	I'm also signing Senate Bill 3 from the fourth special session.
	Senate Bill 3 adds $1.54 billion more to build more border barriers and walls like what we have here.
	The Biden administration's takeover comes at a time when parliamentarians in Washington are discussing an agreement on immigration, a condition imposed by the Republicans in order to unblock the financial aid to Ukraine sought by the president.
	There you go.
	Did you know she said the Biden administration's takeover?
	Yeah, I heard that.
	What does that mean?
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure.
	Where was that report from?
	The France 24.
	Hmm.
	All they have to do is just say, no, we're just going to adhere to the law.
	They don't need comprehensive immigration reform.
	No, they don't need anything.
	The law is the law.
	We have a law.
	It's in place.
	We're going to get comprehensive immigration reform, and it will require the ID in order to work.
	Now that, Whitney Webb, that's what's happening.
	That's where your government ID comes in.
	That's where it comes from.
	Not from X.
	All right, let me just, just so we can, just a little bit of Christmas cheer.
	Let's go down under for Christmas cheer.
	We're in for a COVID Christmas this year as cases rise, particularly in children.
	Liz Daniels takes us through the latest data from New South Wales Health.
	Well, school's out and COVID's about.
	The number of emergency department presentations has been climbing steadily over the past three weeks, driven by children and people aged between 17 and 49.
	New South Wales Health sewage surveillance now pointing to Bondi, Liverpool and Quakers Hill as the virus hotspots With new variants including JN1 on the rise.
	There were also increases in the number of influenza and RSV cases both also surging in children.
	The New South Wales Health Advice perhaps the greatest gift you can give your vulnerable loved ones this Christmas is to take them to get the newest updated monovalent booster shot.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	And it's the wastewater.
	We know this because of your poop water.
	That's how we know that COVID's on the rise.
	Yeah, because we know it's on the rise because of the super clip I have.
	No, please don't play it because we played that in 2021.
	It's just a classic.
	How about this?
	How about this?
	How about I play your classic, but I play it from episode 1392, 2021.
	Does that sound good?
	The same one or has it been added two?
	It's the exact same clip.
	Especially the TV broadcasters.
	There is a fabulous supercut that has been doing the rounds, which I shall play for you, that illustrates exactly how much Big Pharma owns the media.
	Brought to you by Pfizer.
	CBS Health Watch.
	Sponsored by Pfizer.
	Anderson Cooper 360.
	Brought to you by Pfizer.
	I'll just, just... Okay, I'll tell you this is not the exact same one, because the first clip in this new one... It's longer, it's the same thing.
	It has a woman passing out, and then every other clip has a woman or a guy falling over.
	CBS This Morning, sponsored by Pfizer.
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	Anderson Cooper 360.
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	ABC's Nightline.
	We're not brought to you by Pfizer, but I would like to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C's in the COVID Christmas, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore!
	Hey.
	Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning, ships in the sea, the boots on the ground, the feet in the air, the subs in the water, and the dames and the knights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Wow, a whole bunch of them ran away.
	I don't even want to tell you what the count is for today.
	It's Christmas.
	It's Christmas.
	It's bad.
	John, it's bad.
	It was the best of times.
	It was the worst of times.
	1393 trolls.
	Nobody's expected to be listening to our show except the ones that are important people out there.
	On a day like it's a holiday when they should be spending time with friends and family.
	1393 trolls.
	Holy moly, that is the record low for a Sunday.
	It's pretty bad.
	That's the record low for a Sunday because that's half of what the audience should be.
	It's low.
	What can I tell you?
	It's just low.
	Maybe the material was no good today.
	The material was dynamite.
	We did nothing but laugh.
	I mean, if we're not laughing, then we didn't do our job.
	Oh, no, no, I think.
	And you know what?
	These are the true trolls.
	These are the hardcore trolls.
	Yeah, hardcore trolls.
	And you can become one of those trolls on Thursdays and Sundays.
	You can do the show live.
	You can do it at work.
	Go to trollroom.io.
	You can just put it in your web browser.
	You can, you know, if someone comes along, you know, alt-tab, alt-tab to the back.
	You bring up that spreadsheet.
	Then pretend like you're doing something.
	But meanwhile, the troll room, and it's great because you can just say whatever you want.
	You can go, well, I'm a troll.
	And you know, it's cool.
	And there's no accountability because it scrolls off.
	It's ephemeral.
	It should be lower next Sunday because that is actually New Year's Eve, New Year's Eve, where people are partying.
	Yes.
	Well, there will be, we have partying trolls.
	There's some trolls who like to party.
	Yeah, it'll be good.
	I'm looking forward to it.
	We don't mind working on these days because... No, we actually enjoy it.
	Yeah, we do.
	I don't know why, but for some reason we enjoy it.
	TrollRoom.io is where you can find us live.
	You can also get one of those.
	All the podcast apps now have new versions.
	Everybody worked really hard.
	So podcastapps.com, get a modern one.
	It'll alert you when we go live with the show.
	It's the same app where you get the show when we publish it.
	And you can also, especially those of you who may...
	Some of you, apparently about 4% of the podcast app market was Google Podcasts.
	They're closing down.
	People are getting their emails now.
	And they say, well, you can export your subscriptions to YouTube Music.
	Don't do that.
	You can export your OPML file.
	That's what they call OPML.
	And you can export it right into any of the new podcast apps, the modern ones.
	So do that.
	PodcastApps.com.
	Value for value is how we have survived through the podcast winter.
	We've been doing it for 16 years.
	There's a big podcast winter coming up right now as advertisers just run away because Spotify failed and all that and a whole bunch of reasons for it.
	But we knew that we would weather the storm if people actually enjoy the outstanding product that we make.
	And you keep telling us that it is an outstanding product, so we're still here.
	When that ends, the show ends.
	It's that simple.
	What was that story you had about that meats shop?
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, so here's the thing.
	So I'm... I like game.
	And there was, you know, reindeer meat is delicious.
	You don't get that here in the United States, but it's delicious.
	Elk, you can get.
	Deer, you can get.
	Moose, by the way, killer.
	And so there's this game shop that was in the peninsula and it was known to have all these crazy meats, including quail and different duck.
	And one year I was going to go down there and get some meat for a special event, and the place had closed down completely.
	It was gone.
	And it left me feeling that, well, maybe myself and others who like eating elk and moose If we had supported the place just for maybe once in a while, instead of waiting five years to go down there, the place would still be in business and be doing a good business, and I could now go down there and get what I wanted.
	No.
	Gone.
	For good.
	That's right.
	Never come, never came back.
	And you're still sad about it.
	I'm still irked about it.
	So don't let that happen to you, people.
	This is what happened to Cranky Geeks, by the way.
	Same thing.
	Oh, really?
	It's never coming back.
	And that's because people didn't support you?
	We couldn't, well, it fell apart.
	But it's the same thing.
	It doesn't come back, that's the point.
	People weren't buying your moose?
	Once it goes away, it never comes back.
	I mean, this reminds us, you and I have been talking about some of these return-to-TV bullcrap shows like, what was the one with...
	Frasier.
	Frasier, no good.
	It's just terrible.
	They lost the plot.
	It's not funny.
	It's not the same writers.
	It's no good.
	And my favorite one, and I have to apologize to you for this one, because you made the comment just out of the blue.
	I'm talking about the Jon Stewart Show.
	Jon Stewart had a show on Apple or something and he said he was fired.
	Yes.
	I said, no, he wasn't fired.
	He agreed to quit.
	I mean, I was making it up.
	I didn't know.
	Until I watched the show.
	And then you're like, no wonder he was fired.
	It was terrible.
	He wasn't funny.
	He was like, you know, knee-jerk liberal stuff that was no good.
	He was butting in on things he shouldn't have anything to do with.
	Didn't have the same writers, obviously.
	And it was no good.
	Yeah, and he got booted off.
	And I think he was fired.
	Yes, he was fired.
	He was fired.
	Out.
	You're fired.
	You're done.
	You're toast.
	Goodbye.
	But this Kelsey Grammer thing is no good.
	That's no good.
	What is good?
	And they did the same thing, by the way, with the show that had... What was the name of this show?
	The guy was the gunslinger, Marshall... It's not called Vengeance, it's called something else.
	McCloud?
	No.
	Oh, God.
	Wasn't it McCloud?
	When Cloud was the show, yes, that's what I'm talking about.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Timothy Olyphant was the main character.
	Somebody might remember what it is.
	Gunsmoke?
	You know, they should try to bring Gunsmoke back.
	I bet you that would really fail fast.
	They should bring back Hogan's Heroes.
	That would be funny.
	Hogan's Heroes.
	Well, you needed Bob Crane to make that work.
	People are saying Justified.
	Justified.
	Justified.
	Yes, exactly.
	Justified.
	They brought it back.
	So here's the show.
	This premise was a guy who was a marshal, but the premise was he was a quick draw artist.
	So he would get into some beef with people and he would just gun them down.
	So he was killing people in the first year, especially.
	Everybody, somebody was getting going down every show.
	So the second they bring it back after a few years of hiatus, they left it and then they brought it back and they left the gunslinger part out, which was the only part that was interesting.
	How dumb is that?
	That's right.
	When we're gone, there's that's it.
	I mean, no agenda.
	It can never be no agenda again.
	And if there is, it'll be like a dud.
	No, it won't.
	It'll be Adam and Moe.
	What are you talking about?
	No, it won't be a dud.
	Yes, but I said.
	What was not a dud was the artwork, although I did have some comments on it.
	You didn't like it at all.
	The artwork, which came from Dame Kenny Ben for episode 1618.
	Of course, we titled that Fat Leonard.
	How could we not?
	And well, Even though the art generator is back up, and thank you so much Sir Paul Couture for resurrecting it, for bringing it back from the dead.
	The artwork, for some reason, John, you wanted to go for a traditional Christmas thing.
	I'm like, no, let's do that on Christmas.
	I wanted the Curry Dvorak swear jars.
	Which I thought was great.
	You were like, meh, this has no dynamics.
	And then you're like, I want the Christmas, the Christmas stockings hung by the fire.
	I'm like, this is boring.
	Pretty much.
	And so there were two choices from Dame Kenny Ben.
	One was just your stocking, my stocking.
	And then she had a second one with M5M under the bag, in a bag of coal.
	But then mine, my stockings in the fire.
	Yeah, this is your complaint.
	You said... Well, yeah.
	And you say, here's the... I'm gonna give a little inside baseball here.
	You also said, okay, we'll take this one, but I'm gonna bitch about it on the next show.
	Yes, because my stocking was in the fire.
	His stocking was in the fire.
	I didn't like it in the fire.
	Yeah.
	I didn't like it.
	It's only a drawing.
	We both kind of like Darren O'Neal's press stooges, but we agreed that the press The badges in their hat band was too small and people might not get it.
	Although the goofy look was pretty good for A.I.
	It's A.I.
	obviously.
	Yeah, it was A.I.
	It was A.I.
	Everyone's going A.I.
	You even tried to pawn off that no weed, no phone thing.
	That was no good.
	That was also damn canny, Ben.
	You tried.
	You were like, oh, that's great.
	No, it's not.
	Did not.
	You did, you tried it.
	And then, what else was there?
	That was kind of it.
	There really wasn't much.
	It looks like people understand for this show, people have caught on.
	There's a lot of traditional Christmas artwork, so I'm excited to look at that when we're done.
	But thank you Dame Kenny, man.
	We really appreciate your time.
	That's two in a row for her.
	That is, yes, that's right.
	So if she gets it again today, then it's the hat trick.
	She gets it.
	That's right.
	So this is pretty rare.
	The competition is on.
	That's right.
	And she'll get on the front page of the Art Generator.
	NoahJenArtGenerator.com.
	You can play along.
	You could actually participate.
	You can upload your own artwork.
	You now get your whole artist profile.
	It's all swanky.
	If you win, you get on the front page.
	There's leaderboards.
	There's all kinds of cool things.
	It's her pocket tour is done.
	And that's another example of time, talent or treasure time and talent, a lot of time and talent to probably put some treasure in there too, just to make this thing work.
	We appreciate it.
	Same with all the producers who help us here.
	It is value for value.
	We provide the value upfront.
	There's no, no paywalls, no Patreon levels, uh, you know, no tricks, no gimmicks, no advertising, no creepy corporate money.
	We just say, hey, if you got any value out of the show, send it back to us.
	Some people don't do it for years, then they do.
	Some people do a little bit every single month for years and years and years, and all of a sudden they're a knight or a dame.
	It doesn't matter.
	We can't determine the value that you receive.
	We can't determine what value you place on that.
	But we do have a number of people who have given us the treasure of the time, talent, and treasure, and we want to thank them right now.
	Starting off with, and there he is, the man who always saves the day at the end of the month, Sironimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
	He always sends it to us in cash.
	It always includes a $2 bill.
	I'm just going to guess there was at least one $2 bill today, or maybe six.
	No, one.
	$4,000.
	$4,012.
	Wow.
	This is massive.
	Massive.
	Thank you.
	That's huge.
	It's one of his biggest donations ever.
	For this end of year, thank you so much.
	And he always has a typewritten note.
	And today's note, interestingly, has a footnote, I noticed.
	He has a little one.
	And there's a footnote.
	Do you see that?
	I'm going to open it now.
	He has a footnote.
	I'm trying to see where the number one... Oh, okay.
	When I hit the footnote, I will read the footnote.
	From Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia.
	Thank you to all producers that always make this such an insightful source of information.
	Deconstruction of the three university presidents' testimony was enlightening and paralleled a discussion with another university president.
	Sironymous gets around.
	She shared the view that the presidents were over-lawyered, which is what I said, and had a 47-word Title IX mindset that no congressperson would understand or appreciate.
	It's what you said.
	So, a fourth university president who was smart enough not to get invited confirmed that we were spot on.
	Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas to the many producers.
	Thank you for your faith.
	Oh, wait.
	The footnote, she shared the view that the presidents were over lawyered and had a 47 word title 9 mindset.
	Now, word I have here, the footnote, no person in the United States shall on the basis of sex be educated, be excluded from participation in You got it right.
	I got it right.
	I'll read it again.
	No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance.
	There you go.
	They can't do it, otherwise money goes away.
	Is that the basic premise here?
	Yeah, the premise is that they would have been violating Title IX by their interpretation at the moment.
	And that's what the lawyers, I think, convinced them of when, in fact, they could have said any number of things.
	They're too rigid.
	These women were not... Smart.
	Well, they probably weren't smart, but they weren't trained in obfuscation and how to talk to agencies properly and how to beat around the bush the proper way.
	Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas to the many producers.
	Thank you for your faith.
	I hope all have a blessed holiday season.
	Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas.
	Aloha Akbar.
	No jingles, no karma.
	And we thank you profusely.
	Sir Animas of Dogpatch on Lower Slobovia.
	Good man.
	Stay onward with an anonymous donation.
	Oh no, I'm sorry.
	Mike and Betty, you get the anonymous one.
	Mike and Betty Kinney.
	Becky, Becky, Becky.
	What did I say?
	You said Benny.
	Benny?
	Yeah.
	Mike and Betty, Benny.
	Mike and Becky Kinney in Katy, Texas.
	Merry Christmas, and they two of them came in with 647.71.
	Merry Christmas to all Gitmo Nation.
	This donation of $648.71 allows both my darling bride, Becky, and myself to baronet and baronetess.
	We met for the first time in 71, oddly enough, on Christmas Eve.
	Today is the 52nd anniversary of that world-changing... Whoa!
	Whoa!
	52 years together and they never had a fight!
	Never.
	Today is the 52nd anniversary of that world-changing meeting, I would have put event.
	Plus 64871 is a prime number, and I thought that would be cool for this special day.
	Mike Kinney, Knight of the Great Katy Prairie, and Becky Dame of the Great Katy Prairie.
	Yes, we shall be upgrading you momentarily.
	Thank you so much for your courage.
	Anonymous is in Rareford, North Carolina.
	$500 and just says Anonymous please, no jingles.
	Well, no jingles, no karma.
	Not even a double up.
	You got it.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Sir Chris in Carmel-by-the-Sea in California.
	Which used to be, the mayor used to be Clint Eastwood.
	That's right.
	Switcheroo!
	Put your pin out.
	You're John and Adam.
	The ITM, very Merry Christmas to you and yours.
	Thanks as always for the excellent media deconstruction over the past year.
	Here's to a happy, healthy, and prosperous new year for the entire No Agenda family.
	Please credit this executive producership to the love of my life and soulmate Dame Kristen of Carmel-by-the-Sea.
	She's celebrating her 29th birthday today.
	Happy birthday, bird!
	Thank you for your courage.
	Cheers, Sir Chris.
	Karma by the sea, and she's on the list, and the switcheroo has been made.
	John Greer is in Enterprise, Alabama.
	333.33, our favorite donation amount.
	Thanks for your hard work.
	Keep it up.
	I'd love some jobs, Karma, for the new year, because jobs, Karma, works.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	Karma.
	William Mountney in Mount Holly, New Jersey, 333.33.
	No note that we can find, nothing else.
	So that means he gets a double up karma, like it or not.
	Yes.
	And his name is actually Bill.
	And he did one of the end of show mixes for today's show.
	So we appreciate that, Bill.
	You've got karma.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Anonymous in Val- Hello?
	Yes, sorry.
	Valati, Valati, Valati, New York.
	I've never heard of that.
	I haven't either.
	33333.
	Merry Christmas.
	This donation is long overdue and done in haste.
	Please keep me anonymous.
	No jingles or karma.
	Done.
	You got it.
	Thank you.
	USA.
	Here comes from Rancho Santa Margarita, California.
	USA toy sales.
	$333.33.
	They got no note whatsoever, so let's give them a double up, Carmen.
	That'll do it.
	You've got...
	Eric Makarowicz is in Socorro, New Mexico, 33333.
	Merry Christmas to you and your two, to you two and your families.
	Thank you.
	Happy holidays to the rest of No Agenda family.
	I need to remember to check, but I might be a baron or a knight by now.
	Well, you should check on that.
	Go check.
	Yeah, go check.
	Let us know.
	Upcoming is Suryogi in West Richland, Washington, 333.33.
	ITM Gents, Sir Yogi here.
	This is a switcheroo to be credited to my better half Dame Janice of the Bombing Range.
	Dame Janice hits the big 65 on December 26th, so please add her to the birthday list.
	We've been tripping around the sun for some 45 years now and still having a good time doing it.
	Happy birthday, sweetie!
	Please give her a goat karma and a little girl yay.
	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of Gitmo Nation!
	Sir Yogi, the Knight of the Carnival Midway.
	Come here, Phoebe.
	Dog Barkmas.
	Yeah, Tina's back with the stepdaughter and her fiancé.
	I like that the dog has an echo in that room.
	That's just perfect.
	I know.
	Well, you're gonna have to enjoy it.
	John from Immediate Casualty Care is in Columbus, Ohio.
	That's John from Immediate Casualty Care is in Columbus, Ohio.
	Hey, babe.
	333, Seasons Greetings, John and Adam.
	I donate today because I've been seeing the magic number 33 literally everywhere and that's the sign to do the voodoo and donate.
	Also, please mention my website, ImmediateCasualtyCare.com.
	So I can write this off as an advertising expense because I'm not giving any more of my rapidly inflating Federal Reserve notes to the big guy than I have to.
	Remember to leave out cricket cookies for Santa Claus Schwab.
	Have a Merry Fourth Turning and a Happy New World Order!
	Peace out!
	John from Immediate Casualty Care.
	Good note.
	Funny.
	Hannah Farley in Cleveland, Ohio.
	3-3-3.
	And Hannah has a switcheroo.
	I'm getting all the switcheroos except the next one.
	A switcheroo on behalf of Benjamin.
	Domzalski.
	Feel free to butcher that name.
	You're Christian.
	You're Christmas.
	I'm butchering everything else.
	Yeah, you are.
	Your Christmas dream of producing the postcast with the most beeps, boops, and jingle jangles has come true!
	Thanks, John and Adam.
	Gee, I like the postcast.
	I think that's a good one.
	Andrew Scalarud.
	Is it Marietta, California?
	333.
	Switcheroo!
	John Adam.
	This is a long-awaited make good for my father, Jesse.
	I wanted to make him an executive producer of 1512, but didn't ask for the switcheroo.
	Better over 100 episodes late than never.
	Love you, dad.
	Oh, jingles.
	Kiss my ring?
	And beautiful, yum!
	You may kiss my ring!
	Beautiful!
	Yum!
	It's a classic.
	Priscilla O'Leary in Ramona, California.
	Ramona. 300.
	Merry Christmas to you and your family and God bless all the New Agenda listeners.
	Kevin and Priscilla O'Leary.
	Bowman.
	Bowman.
	McMahon.
	San Antonio, Texas.
	San Antone!
	First Associate Executive Producer for today.
	270.
	Thanks and Merry Christmas.
	Thank you and Merry Christmas to you.
	Catherine Boudreaux in Carlisle, Massachusetts.
	2.50.
	ITM John and Adam wishing you and the entire No Agenda family a blessed holiday.
	We love listening to you both.
	Thank you for the twice weekly dose of clarity and humor.
	Merry, Merry Christmas from Catherine Boudreau in Carlisle.
	Dylan is in Chilliwack.
	Of course he is.
	Chilliwack, British Columbia, Candanavia, 240, 78.
	My car was totaled in an accident.
	A tire flew through the middle of the highway and landed on my hood.
	To my surprise, I received a good offer from insurance.
	But that didn't stop me from asking them for more!
	Well, wouldn't you know it?
	They sent me a check for an extra $333.40.
	So I... Oh, so he should be... Yeah, he should be bumped up.
	He should be bumped up, yes.
	He will be an executive producer.
	So he's sending us the bonus check for $333.40.
	Yeah, that he asked for.
	Ask and ye shall receive That's right Knock and it will be open So I forward this bonus on to you Please add me to the birthday list It was on December 20th Jingles, Rubbleyzer and the magic number And relationship karma please Merry Christmas, no agenda India, Hangout, Mike Stand by 33, 33, 33 Rubbleyzer out 33 That's the magic number Throwing under
	It's the magic number You've got karma Good Another switcheroo coming up from Sir Drywall in Petrolia, Ontario, Canada.
	On September 13th, I did an instant night donation and commented that if you mention NAUS, N-A-U-S, Drywall of Petrolia, Ontario, that's N-A-U-S, Drywall.
	I could write it off as marketing.
	Well, it worked!
	I got a great house to drywall out of the deal, so here's my follow-up donation.
	And he wants to give a switcheroo to Jamie Forsythe, the contractor who hired me.
	Aw.
	Thanks for working.
	Christmas Eve.
	No jingles, no karma. 22561.
	Oh, nice.
	Then we have a note from Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility with a row of ducks, 2-22-22.
	And he actually asked us to hold this in abeyance.
	He sent it on December 1st.
	That's a very risky thing to do.
	Very risky.
	Very risky, but you got lucky this time.
	In the morning, boys, please accept this shorter row of ducks for the month of December to keep myself current.
	In addition, I would greatly appreciate some jobs karma for our youngest human resource.
	And for my keeper, please play the birthday biscuit jingle for who?
	Uh, to celebrate her 57th trip around the sun.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	Appreciate in advance the karma and the jingle, keeping it brief.
	Sincerely, pursuit of peace and tranquility in the lands of the red clay and the cherry trees.
	And he gives us his accounting, and thank you very much.
	Of course, we'd be more than happy to hand out some jobs, Karma, for your spouse and human resource.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	And here she is, Dame Astrid of Tokyo.
	That's right.
	Good old Dame Astrid.
	She's actually Japan and all the disputed islands.
	Yeah, I mentioned that at the end.
	She's a duchess.
	Duchess Dame Astrid in Tokyo.
	Dear John and Adam, whenever I hear you talking about exit strategy, my alarm bells go off and it's time to donate!
	May this day never come.
	Wishing you and your lovely families a Merry Christmas.
	Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan and all the disputed islands.
	222.22, a row of ducks.
	Thank you, Dame Astrid.
	Love you, Dame Astrid, yes.
	Say hi to Sir Mark for us as well.
	Dave the Broke Air Controller, Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Short row of ducks, 222.22.
	Donation note from Dave the Broke Air Traffic Controller.
	And I just thought I'd mention the last show, but he sent me in the mail, I think I talked about this, he sent me a huge packet of stuff he should not have sent me.
	Yes, you mentioned this.
	Okay, about lasers from C-130s and stuff.
	We appreciate you, brother.
	Thank you very much.
	Have yourself an eggnog with whiskey on the job today.
	I know that's what you guys love.
	Sir Jeremy Chumfati in Oakville, Ontario, Canada.
	We got some Canadians coming in.
	A lot, yeah.
	222.22, another row of ducks.
	ITM John and Adam, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
	Sir Jeremy Chumfati.
	Somehow, I think there's a correlation between our Jewish producers eating Chinese on Christmas and our Canadian producers donating on Christmas.
	I'm not sure why.
	It feels like there's a correlation there.
	Could be.
	Ian Watt, Lawrence, Kansas, $200, no note.
	Double Up Karma for you, Ian.
	You've got Double Up Karma.
	J.S.
	in Madison Heights, Virginia, $200.
	Thanks for all the work, you two, to put the show together and keep us all informed.
	You guys rock!
	Thank you.
	Yes, there's Brandon from Flagstaff, Arizona.
	Brandon Trainique.
	I read his note earlier.
	He is the dude named Ben who was, if only the captain and the commander had given him some of their hotel rooms and bribes and hookers and blow, he would have taught them about How to not get caught in the old Lenny scam.
	How to use passwords.
	Yeah, stuff like that.
	How to use cryptography.
	So, great podcast.
	He says, bring back the stuff about secure phones.
	We actually talked about that earlier.
	I'm due for a new one and it would be nice if it didn't spy on me.
	Well, that's not going to be easy.
	Good luck.
	I would say... I have an idea.
	Yeah, John C. Dvorak's idea.
	Put it in a drawer, don't use a phone.
	No phone.
	That's right.
	You're a no-phoner.
	I'm a no-phoner.
	No phone and no boner.
	Well, I don't know about that.
	That's all right.
	I'll come up with a better phrase.
	Yeah, it should be better.
	You're up.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Oh, and who is it?
	Oh, it's Linda Lepatkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
	Good old Linda.
	She comes in with $200 as usual with a stare down, and she wants jobs, Karma.
	And she says, for a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's Image Makers, Inc.
	with a K. It's like a K. Ink, I-N-K.
	Or just find Linda, uh, Lou Patkin under the show's producer list.
	Merry Christmas!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Wonderful!
	Our Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1619, thank you all so much for supporting us.
	Of course, we appreciate the support that all of you give us, all the way down to the $3 level that I see on today's spreadsheet.
	Of course, we don't mention anybody under 50 for reasons of anonymity, and we always appreciate those of you who are on Sustaining Donations, which you can find at noagendadonations.com or at volrac.org.
	Those things really help out in the slower months and a very Merry Christmas to all of you.
	We appreciate what you've done for us and we continue to provide the value for you since you came back with the value for us.
	John's going to take us through the 50s now.
	Yeah, it's a pretty good list.
	Starting with Nathan Trawick in San Antonio, Texas, $175.57.
	He needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And you'll get some jobs karma at the end.
	Hopefully right at the end.
	Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, New Hampshire, $125.33.
	Chloe A cheer heart in Last Wages, Nevada.
	1-2-2-3-3.
	And this is a switcheroo on behalf of Phil.
	Cheer heart from your loving wife, Chloe.
	Happy Anniversary!
	Morgan Medlock in Fircrest, Washington, 101-01.
	Ian Field, 100.
	And he has under the mistaken belief that he earns a note when it's not absolute.
	No, that's the next one.
	That's EB, that's the next one.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Ian Field says nothing.
	It is EB in Carlsbad, California, that thinks he gets a note here read, but it's too long and it's under 200, so no.
	But, he does get a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	I think he's got a douchebag call out in there, too.
	Yes, for Jameson, who hit him in the mouth, that's his brother.
	Douchebag!
	There you go.
	That'll do it.
	That'll do it.
	Cress Engler in Ancaster, Ontario, Canada, 99999.99.
	Canada, 99999.99.
	With a lewd note, thanks for that.
	Jason Maurer in Vancouver, Washington, 8008.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 8008.
	He does get his little note read, because it only says, boobs are the peanut butter to our jelly.
	Okay.
	Don't eat sandwiches at Kevin's house.
	Sure Boober in Nevada, Iowa.
	8008.
	Oh, he wants his boobies for Christmas.
	Oh, uh, Yard and Karen in, uh, if I'm getting that right.
	Sure and Karen.
	Karen.
	Karen.
	Karen in Nijmegen.
	Karen in Nijmegen. Nijmegen. Holland.
	77.
	Uh...
	TJ of the Side Eye, Clayton, North Carolina, 75.
	Katherine Morton in Charlotte, North Carolina, 75.
	Monica Lansing.
	Oh, Monica Lansing's back in Drayton Valley de Monica, Alberta, 74.
	Baroness, actually.
	Sir Fat Dad of the BMX Icans, BMexicans.
	North Little Rock, Arkansas.
	He's the guy that won.
	As an old dude, he did that whole BMX race and he won.
	Yeah, as a fat guy.
	BMX is a rough go.
	69-69.
	You have to have a strong crotch.
	Sir Doherty in Stevens City, Virginia.
	It's 54-43.
	Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota.
	64-20.
	Nathan Newman.
	Yeah, floating around in an APO box somewhere.
	6006 and it's a switch roof for his wife.
	Rhea in Korea.
	Ah, she needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	He's also on the birthday list.
	Matthew Elwhart in Weatherford, Texas, 6006.
	The small boobs, according to Sir Kevin McLaughlin, who's back from Concord, North Carolina, and he says with 6006, like fine art, boobs are meant to be admired.
	Stephen Shevlin in Southampton, Massachusetts, 6006 also.
	Small boobs.
	Michelle Larson in Ham Lake, Minnesota, 6006.
	Yeah, with a Merry Christmas to her smoking hot husband.
	Ashley.
	Ashley.
	And she says, yes, he is a male and we are not a gay couple.
	Ashley, yeah.
	Good to know.
	And Michelle Larson comes in the second time with the same exact donation.
	Oh, interesting.
	6-0-0-6.
	And we're not sure what's going on there, but thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Banstra, Baron of B&A Nashville, Tennessee, $59.93.
	Dan Pinkerton with a birthday from Chula Vista, California, $57 for his 57th birthday.
	Sherbee Boop, Knight of the Frozen Tundra in New Brighton, Minnesota, $56.78.
	KT Chopper in Livingston, Texas.
	$55.85.
	Marcus Muller in Montebourg, Deutschland.
	$55.22.
	Jimmy Fredericks in McFarland, Wisconsin.
	$55.10.
	Ryan Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina.
	$55.10.
	Surprise!
	Surprise!
	The Knight of Astonishment, Yukon, Oklahoma.
	$54.44.
	Dame Nancy, San Bruno, California. $52.44.
	Baron Henry, Rancho Palos Verdes in California, 5242.
	Amanda West in Red Wing, Minnesota with a birthday, 5222.
	Sir Woody in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, 5120.
	Mike Petrie in Hampton, New Jersey with a switcheroo for his wife, Michelle.
	She loves the show, so she probably needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	That's a $51 donation.
	Sir Sargent Postal in Miami Lakes, Florida, $50.33.
	Forrest Martin, $50.05.
	Parts Unknown.
	Sir Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, $50.05.
	And now we finally get to the $50 donors.
	It's a big list today, sorry.
	Michael Sykora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
	Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
	Greg Huff in Austin, Texas.
	David Perdue in Snow Hill, North Carolina.
	Gaucho Woodworking!
	Go to their website.
	Gaucho Woodworking in Redondo Beach, California.
	They've got some pretty cool stuff.
	They have the cutting boards they specialize in, it seems.
	Kate Haskell in San Rafael, California.
	Alex Delgado in Aptos, California.
	Michael Romano in Sebastopol, California.
	James Farrell in Haverhill, Massachusetts.
	Heather Rose in Lander, Wyoming with a birthday coming up.
	Somebody needs, her husband, her man needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Diego Lopez Crane in Ithaca, New York. 50.
	He's got a note about something.
	Brian Hummel in Wimberley, Texas.
	50.
	He said he's made a lot of sub $50 donations.
	He wants that money to be contributed to the penny jar for future producers.
	So, gotcha.
	Thank you.
	That's nice.
	Brian Hummel, Wimberley, Texas.
	Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas.
	Samuel Cannarday in North Riverside, Illinois.
	Brandon Guzman in Danehague.
	The Hog, New Netherlands.
	Yep.
	Brett Lemons, Mitchell, Indiana.
	Russ Coury in Winter Park, Florida.
	David Hudson, Lombard, Illinois.
	John is right!
	You guys are educating the truck drivers of America!
	Jay Cotaccini in Austin, Texas.
	Stephen Crummey in El Cajon.
	Brian P. Belon in Asbury, New Jersey.
	Patrick Ekstrom in Brick, New Jersey.
	Michael Statham in Parts Unknown.
	And last on our list of a lot of people is Leanne Shipley.
	Damely and in Covington, Washington.
	I want to thank everybody on this list for helping make the, as we wrap the year, a successful show out of 16-19.
	Thank you all so very much.
	Again, thank you to our Executive and Associate Executive Producers.
	We have a baronet note from Nick Ridge, who came in with A Lower Mount.
	Merry Christmas, John and Adam.
	I've been on subscription for nearly five years, and it does add up.
	I'm ready to take the baronet title on my birthday, which is on Christmas Eve, 1619 show.
	Thank you for your show.
	It's the best present.
	Please knight me Baronet Nixter of the High Grove, overlooking the Grand Terrace of the Inland Empire.
	No jingles, no karma.
	I'll forage for food and drink at the round table.
	And we appreciate you and appreciate your note.
	And as requested, a final jobs, karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And remember us, Dvorak.org slash N.A.
	or knowageandthedonations.com.
	Thank you again for supporting us for episode 1619.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	It's world.
	Shut up.
	It's a bad day, bad day.
	Oh, so much.
	Yeah, we got quite the list today, as you heard earlier.
	Dylan celebrated on the 20th.
	Amanda West wishes Adam a happy birthday, and I love you!
	Celebrated on the 22nd.
	Heather Rose wishes Scott a happy one, belated for the 22nd.
	Through the pursuit of peace and tranquility, wishes his keeper a very happy birthday.
	Happy birthday.
	She turns 57 today.
	Sir Chris wishes his soulmate, Dame Kristen of Carmel-by-the-Sea, a very happy one for today as well.
	Nick Ridge is celebrating.
	Dan Pinkerton turns 57 tomorrow.
	Sir Brian turns 65 tomorrow.
	Sir Yogi wishes Dame Janice of the Bombing Range a happy 165 on the second day of Christmas at 26.
	Nathan Newman wishes his wife Rhea in Korea a happy one for January 1st, my sister's birthday as well.
	And TJ of the Side Eyes, or TJ of the Side Eye, wishes his future millionaire soonie a happy birthday.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	And we have the family that know agendas together, Baronets together.
	We have Mike Cheney and Becky Cheney.
	And Mike is the knight of the great Katy Perry.
	And Becky, of course, is the dame of the great Katy Perry.
	They become baron and baronettes today.
	Look at them with those sashes!
	Hey, look wonderful.
	Give him a round of applause, everybody.
	Thank you so much for supporting us.
	We do have one knighting today, and that is our buddy there from the Inland Empire, so let me get our Inland Empire sword.
	Ooh, California sword.
	Nick Ridge, step on up, buddy!
	You are now about to become an official Knight of the Noah-Dinner Roundtable.
	Join all those dames and knights who have supported us in the amount of $1,000 or more, and I'm very proud hereby to pronounce the K-D as Baron baronet, Nickster of the High Grove overlooking the Grand Terrace of the Inland Empire for you.
	We've got hookers and blowers, rent boys and chardonnay.
	You said you'd scourge for food and drink yourself, so we got you covered here.
	Along with that, we have some Rubenes women and rosé.
	We've got some geysas and sake.
	We've got some vodka vanilla bung, it's in bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum, or just the mutton and me.
	You, my friend, can go over to No Agenda Nation, noagendarings.com, actually.
	noagendarings.com, and there you will see the handsome, very handsome knight and dame rings.
	All you have to do is use the handing sizing guide, size your finger, the one you want to wear the ring on, of course, and send that off to us along with the address that you want your ring, which is a Signet ring, and when you hit someone in the mouth, it leaves a lasting impression.
	You can also use it to seal your important correspondence with the accompanying wax that we give you, and of course, our certificate of authenticity.
	Thank you again for supporting over five-year period, the best podcast in the universe.
	Yeah.
	Well, we talked about it earlier.
	You can combat the loneliness op that is going on right now in the country, maybe worldwide, trying to get you to get hooked on more...
	Internet stuff, whatever it is, whatever it's about.
	You're not lonely if you join a No Agenda group for a No Agenda Meetup.
	You'll find out the minute you go to one, it's like eating those potato chips.
	You can't just have one.
	You got to keep going back.
	That's where you get your connection.
	As you know, that is Protection.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	Only one before our next show day, which of course will be...
	Thursday, the 28th.
	Is that right?
	The 28th?
	Yeah, that is right.
	So, on Wednesday, the 27th, the Knoxville Bladed Boxing Day Meetup.
	Doing your British thing.
	5.30 at Buckethead Tavern in Knoxville, Tennessee.
	Oh, NoBere.
	NoBere is hosting that.
	NoBere is big on no agenda social and a douchebag troll in the troll room.
	I saw you today.
	No beret.
	Adam thinks votes count.
	I got you.
	Thanks for hosting the meeting, brother.
	What did he say?
	Adam thinks the votes count.
	What votes?
	I don't know.
	We're talking about voting.
	I said this is why Joe Biden will not be re-elected.
	No, I think the Republicans will cheat better this time.
	Everyone cheats.
	Votes do count because they can be used one way or the other.
	Meetup still on the way.
	Bali, Indonesia on the 28th.
	Let me see, we've got the...
	Virgin Islands, the British Virgin Islands on the January 1st.
	We have Indiana, Wisconsin, Idaho, North Carolina.
	There's too many to mention but we take it all the way through April at this point if you go to look at the at the meetup site where you can find meetups near you.
	NoahJennerMeetups.com.
	If you cannot find one near you, there's a very simple solution.
	Start one yourself.
	Put it up there on noagentomeetups.com.
	Guaranteed always a party.
	You will not regret it.
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You wanna be where you won't be.
	Triggered or held to blame.
	You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Woo!
	Alert the affiliates.
	What happened?
	How did that happen?
	Oh, long donations, I guess.
	That happened.
	I should have realized.
	I didn't realize we had so many 50s.
	That's really nice to see, though.
	It's nice to see.
	Um, ISOs, end of show ISOs.
	Okay, go.
	Oh, I have three.
	Let's lean into love.
	Nice Christmas message.
	You know, you sound underwhelmed.
	Totally.
	Okay, second one.
	But it's true!
	That's a good one for some other day.
	Okay, well, this one may just change your mind about my ISO offerings.
	Why on earth does this stuff make the news?
	Well, I like that one, but I don't think it's... I think I've got the one.
	Well, of course you do.
	But I have a bunch of them, so we can try a few.
	All right, let's try them out.
	Let's start with Festivus.
	Let's try them on for size.
	A Festivus for the rest of us!
	Okay, yeah, that's decent.
	Uh, then, well, let's go to, uh, in the clear.
	We're pretty much in the clear.
	I mean, they're all chopped off.
	They're not good.
	They're chopped off at the end.
	A nutcracker.
	Nutcracker.
	Slash nutcracker.
	Okay, yeah, you got me on that one.
	Okay, now I got the ones that are gonna win.
	Now, it either could be this one.
	Let's start with Merry Christmas 2.
	Okay.
	Merry Christmas, everyone.
	It was like Dracula saying Merry Christmas, but then I would just go to the cut to the chase after Boring us.
	Yeah with the crap one.
	Just get to the good one It's gonna this tomorrow's Christmas, and I don't know how we can't use this one, which is Merry Christmas one Merry Christmas Yeah.
	Clear.
	To the point.
	Not chopped off.
	What I would actually do is, I mean, I'm thinking you could also do a combo.
	Merry Christmas!
	Slash Nutcracker.
	Huh?
	Come on.
	You want to add a little... Yeah, okay.
	I think slash Nutcracker is best.
	Come on, man.
	You can't beat that.
	Now it's time for... Google U of J CD.
	All right, which is the shortest?
	I actually, well the shortest is the one I want to just play as a throwaway.
	So I got two today.
	Okay.
	And one's only eight seconds.
	And you want the shortest, we could start doing ones like this.
	Dahlin returns with his annual segment asking people to share their good news.
	I got a new cat and I learned how to read.
	Okay, hopefully you have another one.
	That was good, that was good.
	I got a new cat and I learned how to read.
	Very good news, almost perfect, but instead we'll play, what is this, Man and Pony?
	Man and Pony.
	Is this something from Mexico, from Tijuana?
	No, no, it's not what you're thinking.
	Finally tonight, it is never too late for your holiday wish to come true.
	Take a look.
	Mr. Burke is 100 years young, and he's always wanted a pony for Christmas.
	He lives at a senior living location in Yuba City, and as you see here, they teamed up with Blue Zones Project to make his dream come true.
	Oh, and as you see here, he was all smiles when he was finally able to pet that cute pony, something that he had wished for when he was a kid.
	I had to keep thinking that I wrote this letter to Santa Claus 90 years ago and never got my pony, but this time I got it, so just don't give up hope and keep wishing.
	Santa Claus will eventually come through.
	Ah, yes he will!
	Mr. Burke's advice to children is to not be surprised if you don't get what you want immediately, but keep wishing and believing, and eventually, as you heard him say, it might indeed come true.
	Awww, good one John!
	That put me in the Christmas spirit.
	It should.
	I said, by the way, anyone out there that starts saying stuff like a hundred years young should be shot.
	A good news story from JCD.
	Happy vibes for you and me.
	And we all feel better now he's done his bit.
	So back to reality, that's turning to shit.
	That's it, everybody!
	That is our show!
	That's it for the Christmas Eve Spectacular!
	Spectacular!
	Here on the No Agenda Show.
	And from the Texas Hill Country, which is located in FEMA Region 6, please remember to thank your mail carrier and your flight attendants.
	They need love this Christmas season.
	My name is Adam Carini.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, my name is John C. Dvorak.
	Mine is the last voice you will ever hear.
	We return, of course, on Thursday the 28th, as we'll get you all geared up for New Year's Eve, and we'll be working New Year's Eve as well, so we appreciate it if you got any value out of our holiday spectacular.
	That you return some value to us.
	So you can remember us for that at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	Hey, John.
	Merry Christmas, my friend.
	And Merry Christmas to you and all yours.
	And all the ships at sea and boots on the ground.
	And boots on the ground and feet in the air.
	Until we meet again on Thursday, Merry Christmas.
	Adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey!
	And such.
	What we have to do, though, is to convince them that we are not easily pushed around.
	If we cave now, the agreement will be unenforgeable, and we're going to have to sign something that's difficult for them.
	And remember, we're going to be around to help our enemies.
	The rationale for the bombing must be the build-up in the north.
	Just say that.
	So we're bombing the north again.
	So we're gonna bomb.
	We'll take the heat right over the Christmas tree, and then it's January 1st.
	They are coming for us.
	To them, we are the infidels.
	My resolution?
	Airstrikes.
	Bomb them.
	Bomb them.
	Keep bombing them.
	Bomb them again and again.
	On this joyous occasion, Hillary and I want to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas.
	The twinkle of a child's eye, the joy of a grandmother's laughter, the love in the hearts of mothers and fathers for their children.
	We came, we saw, he died.
	Did it have anything to do with your visit?
	No.
	I'm sure it did.
	I have two words for you.
	Predator drones.
	You will never see it coming.
	Every nation and every region now has a decision to make.
	Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
	The decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq.
	I mean of Ukraine.
	Iraq.
	Anyway.
	Well, we should have kept the oil while we got out.
	And you know, it's very interesting.
	Had we taken the oil, you wouldn't have ISIS.
	Because they fueled themselves with the oil.
	That's where they got the money.
	So you believe we can go in and take the oil?
	We should have taken the oil.
	When I searched John McCain on YouTube, the biggest thing that comes up is you singing, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb the land.
	744,000 hits, in case you haven't checked it recently.
	Are you proud or embarrassed of that?
	Oh, I'm proud.
	Look.
	When I'm in the company of veterans, which I was, and one of them says to me, when are you going to send a message to Iran, and we're joking around, I'm going to joke around.
	And if someone doesn't like it, my advice to them is to lighten up.
	Do you still stand by your call to have Putin be assassinated?
	Hmm?
	Do you still stand by your call?
	Yeah, I hope he'll be taken out one way or the other.
	I don't care how they take him out.
	How dare you?
	Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow.
	When I was born, I believed in medicine.
	If I was sick I'd tell my dad.
	Then from the doctor we'd get a prescription.
	Open the bottle and I'd be glad.
	But now it's tainted by big pharma business.
	It's not about your health no more.
	Cause now their greed is a horrible sickness.
	And they don't want to find a cure.
	They say, problem is business.
	Give us your money.
	When you are sick, we offer with joy.
	We'll drive you up, so you're no longer sober.
	We want your cash, and our conscience is void.
	You're paying us joy.
	To us from the rich part My brother a little bit Don't get my sister an opioid.
	We don't want to die just to make you more money.
	Don't want our health to be destroyed.
	Timeless business is taking the money.
	When you are sick, we are overjoyed.
	We'll be right back.
	Business.
	We want your money.
	When you are sick, we are overjoyed.
	We'll kick you off your crop, that's our culture.
	We want your cash and our conscience is void.
	Your pen is toyed, to us farmers it's boy.
	Kennedy said about going to the moon.
	He said we're going.
	You know why?
	Because we refuse to postpone!
	Let's not postpone and get out of the rain.
	God bless you all.
	Thank you.
	I took on Putin in terms of Iraq.
	I mean, excuse me, in terms of what was going on in Ukraine.
	I suffered a pressure.
	He wasn't really elected.
	Elected president by acclamation.
	Massive voter fraud was detected.
	It's a right for people that bad to count their... His son's a real creep.
	Broke my leg down.
	The swamp is pretty deep.
	I'm gonna give you the whole load today.
	Why not include members of the Biden transition team as part of this summit that you're hosting today?
	Well, we're going to have to see who the next administration is because we won in the swing states and there was terrible things that went on, so we're going to have to see who the next administration is.
	We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	So I learned about roaches.
	I learned about kids jumping on my lap.
	Why are you texting?
	Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why?
	You're getting nervous, man.
	Today, thousands of President Trump supporters gathered in the nation's capital, CBS's Jeff Pegues was in the crowd.
	Including the recently pardoned former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.
	This is the President's loyal base.
	When you have constipation, unlike hard stools, a soft stool is easy to pass.
	Chewing it and I suffer depression!

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