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	Dig her up!
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	Sunday, December 17, 2023.
	This is your award-winning GiveOnation Media assassination episode 1617.
	This is No Agenda.
	Anarchy on the airwaves.
	And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas real country here in FEMA region number 16.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've noticed Megan Kelly has Ozempic face.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning!
	Wait a minute.
	You noticed that after I told you she had that?
	Come on!
	Come on, man!
	After you told me, I didn't get... I was looking... I wasn't... What can I say?
	It took me a while.
	The one view is, oh my God, this is not good.
	Yeah, I told you.
	I told you.
	You did?
	I am indebted to your accuracy.
	Well, since you brought it up right away, I think we need to look at the script because they're unhinged and out of control.
	The people, the United States media apparatus is controlled by Big Pharma and they do not have your best interest at heart.
	Please believe me when I say this.
	Ugh.
	They, okay.
	So, remember Sanjay Gupta from CNN?
	What I had on the last show, where he was reading the script and it was like... Yeah, he's the guy that Rogan chewed out on his show once, it was hilarious.
	Yeah, for horse paste.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, you know, ivermectin, oh that's horse paste, what are you doing?
	Now, if you're using the generic, because that's what semaglutide is, it's generic, GOP1... Yes, it's just a cheap peptide anyone can get.
	If you're using this and you're getting it from a pharmacy that does compounding, which Big Pharma has hated forever, you are now poisoning yourself.
	Sanjay Gupta said on the last show we had, his script, he rolled it out, There's a 1,500% increase in people overdosing on GLP-1 drugs, but it's not Ozempic and Wegovy!
	No, they have dials that show you so you can't overdose.
	No, it's people using not just compounded versions, not just generic versions.
	Oh no!
	We're improving the script!
	We're calling them knock-offs!
	Yes!
	ABC New York!
	That was some troubling new reporting on all these weight loss drugs that we've been hearing about.
	It's hard to keep tabs on what's going on with which ones every day.
	But this new reporting talks about the poison control centers across the United States.
	They're now reporting an uptick in calls related to accidental overdoses of Semeglutut.
	That's the injection medication used for diabetes and weight loss.
	They've become so popular with these names like Ozempic and Wegovy.
	Yeah, so from January through November, poison centers reported nearly 3,000 calls involving semaglutide, and that is more than a 15-fold increase since 2019.
	Poison control centers say that they believe the dosing issues involve knock-off or compounded versions of the drug, and that is behind many of the calls.
	Knock-offs!
	Knock-offs!
	This is outrageous language!
	Well, let's stop there.
	I have a couple more, so yes, we're pausing.
	And I just want to go to the term knockoff, which stems from the fashion industry.
	Oh, yes.
	And in the fashion industry, because there's no copyright on dress designs, a couture guy, some guy making fancy dresses will go out and show off the current styles, and then the cheap guys will do knockoffs.
	And it implies a cheap copy that's not the same.
	The only thing that is patented for these drugs, certainly for Ozempic, is the dial, is the dosage dial.
	That's their patent.
	The semaglutide is out of patent.
	I don't know if they can re-patent it.
	It's been around.
	But they've repackaged it.
	I'm sure they put some other magic potions in there.
	Let's have a listen here to Good Morning America.
	Since 2019, the percentage of patients receiving a semaglutide prescription has increased well over 900%.
	I didn't feel well.
	led largely by their use helping patients lose weight.
	But more patients means more accidents and misapplications, particularly with injecting improper doses.
	Charles McPherson has been taking Ozempic since April to manage his diabetes, but says he initially took the wrong dosage.
	Oh, no.
	I didn't feel well.
	It's like I had the flu or something.
	I didn't feel well.
	I didn't feel well for a couple days so I went into the emergency room.
	Can you stop for a second?
	How did he take, are you injecting yourself with this stuff?
	There's no instructions?
	How do you take the wrong dosage of something like this when it's an injectable and you only take it once a week?
	They're going to insinuate that people are morons.
	People are idiots, and certainly the idiots who get, you know, just plain old GLP-1 drugs from a compounding pharmacy.
	You're idiots.
	You're morons.
	You don't know what you're doing.
	Don't worry, we're getting to it all.
	It's important that you take note of the horrible side effects of overdosing.
	I didn't feel well.
	It's like I had the flu or something.
	I still didn't feel well for a couple days, so I went into the emergency room.
	And with those major brand names so highly sought after, many people are turning to imitation or compounded drugs.
	Imitation!
	Dr. Lamson says that's where he's seen dosing errors.
	The manufactured product comes in a pen that has pre-filled doses.
	And so it's less likely for patients to give the wrong dose.
	Whereas a lot of the compounded formulations, they're dispensed in vials with needles and syringes.
	And it's up to the patients to draw out the correct amount of medication to administer to themselves.
	Yes.
	Oh, we can't leave that up to those people.
	People have been injecting themselves with drugs for centuries, probably.
	Well, not centuries.
	For decades.
	CBS, though, has a different slant on it.
	They're gonna take it somewhere that we couldn't even take it with COVID vaccines.
	The FDA has issued a new warning about some of the popular diabetes drugs being used for weight loss.
	The agency says it has, quote, received adverse event reports after patients used compound... Wait a minute!
	Did they check the VAERS database now all of a sudden?
	Because they have adverse event reports?
	Oh, goodness.
	I thought you never looked at that.
	I thought it wasn't reliable.
	Semaglutide, that's the generic name for medications like Ozempic and Wacovi.
	People tend to purchase compounded or off-brand versions of drugs online, or when prices run out.
	The FDA says this often happens when certain medications, like those weight loss drugs, are in high demand.
	Thanks for the commentary.
	So, this last news clip, I'm going to include the whole script, because these two Arizona NBC affiliate ladies did a great... I mean, bonus for you ladies!
	Bonus, bonus, bonus!
	Because there's two parts to the script.
	One is that we have a 15-fold increase in people overdosing.
	And that is, of course, because of the knockoffs, imitation, the compounded, lame-o, non-special cartridge dial versions.
	The second part of the script Is, and they all had the same script, is what you feel like when you've overdosed on your fake knockoff version.
	The symptoms of overdosing are exactly the same as the side effects that you can possibly have.
	Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, slow colon action from Mattel.
	They are exactly the same.
	So part of this script is to say, you know, and I think they're doing this to move people's focus away from the side effects, which suck.
	Ask Sharon Osbourne, you know, I wish you could ask Megyn Kelly.
	She'll never ask me back on again, but if she did, I'd say, hey, were you pooping your guts out during this thing?
	Oh, jeez, you wouldn't do that.
	Yeah, I would.
	Big talker.
	So that's part of the expected and possible side effects.
	I think what they're now doing is that if you have these side effects, then they will call your doctor, of course, and you say, hey, am I overdosing?
	Well, you should probably lower your dose or whatever.
	They're trying to minimize The actual side effects by calling them effects of overdosing or taking too much.
	Listen to these two ladies from NBC, Arizona.
	They did a great job.
	It's believed knockoff versions of the drugs are behind many of the calls.
	So let's talk about it.
	Joining me now is Dr. Sonal Harder with Dignity Health Medical Group.
	This is astonishing, Sonal.
	I cannot believe the huge spike.
	Why are we seeing so many overdoses?
	So first of all, the prescriptions, percent prescriptions have gone up about 900% since 2019.
	So we all know that semaglutide is very widely used now for diabetes as well as obesity.
	But here's the other thing.
	It is actually dosing errors is what we are noticing in all these poisoning calls.
	Number one, so the prescription FDA approved medication comes in a pre-filled syringe.
	Approved!
	Notice this?
	The approved medication.
	The approved medication comes in a pre-filled syringe, which is easier to use.
	However, patients still have to dial in a number for the dose.
	Now, if you're not properly educated on how to do this, you could dial in a wrong number.
	For example, there was a patient who was supposed to take about 0.1 milliliters of the dose, and she injected one milliliter, which is 10 times more.
	Woah!
	liters of the dose and she injected one.
	- Actually the better line would be, oh that must be twice as much.
	- Milliliters of the dose and she injected one milliliter which is 10 times higher.
	And these medications hang around for one week when you inject them.
	There is no antidote to these medications, meaning you really have to take care of the symptoms while your body clears the medications.
	Okay, and when you're talking about the symptoms and the complications, I mean what are we talking about here?
	Nausea, vomiting, GI symptoms like diarrhea, constipation, also paralysis of your colon at times in extreme cases, but very low sugars, seizures, those are some extreme fatigue and shaking.
	These are some common symptoms that patients can have with overdose of these medications.
	That is frightening.
	Okay, so what do you do?
	I mean, you just gotta wait it out and go through all the symptoms for a week?
	So, communicate with your health provider at all times, even if they're mild symptoms, because you might get some guidance on how to combat that.
	If you have severe symptoms, emergency room, IV fluids, something for vomiting, something to obviously discontinuing these medications at that point.
	And pay attention to the dosage.
	Absolutely.
	And learn from the providers how to actually dose and how to take these medications.
	Very important.
	Okay.
	Excellent advice, Sonal.
	Thank you.
	I know we're going to talk to you in a couple of minutes.
	That's right.
	We're going to do it all over again.
	And they did it again.
	They did another report.
	So everybody's on the take.
	Everyone is on the take and I have some evidence to back that up.
	But let's not forget America's favorite conservative doctor from Fox News, Doc Siegel.
	Oh, he was all in on the COVID shots.
	Remember him on Tucker Carlson?
	Oh yeah, Tucker.
	And he hates marijuana.
	Oh, Tucker, marijuana no good.
	But this stuff, this is the tits!
	You know, Lorne, we've been talking all about people using Ozempic for weight loss.
	But many of the users report a decrease in anxiety and depression since they started using the Ozempic.
	You feel better because you lost weight?
	Decreased anxiety, that's what they say.
	Doc Siegel is going to straighten it all out for us.
	He's with us right now.
	Weight loss drugs like Azempic, they're treating binge eating disorders as well.
	Is this a new, all-purpose class of drugs, doctor?
	You know, Stuart, it may be.
	I'll tell you, I say maybe because what we can't prove yet is whether these effects are the benefits of looking down and saying, hey, where'd my gut go, right?
	So you feel better, you look better, and maybe that decreases your depression.
	Increasing studies are showing a very positive effect of Ozembic and Wegovy and Majuro on the brain.
	What are they doing?
	They're stabilizing neurons in the brain.
	They're decreasing that surge of dopamine that you get right after you eat that causes more eating.
	It's addictive eating!
	When it tastes good, you get the hormone and this is actually blocking it.
	What does Ozembic do, by the way?
	It's a real finding.
	Yeah, Doc.
	It's a real finding.
	From a breakthrough study in Korea.
	delayed emptying of the gut and and this is the key and a big study in south korea is showing this it works on the hormones in the brain it causes the brain hormones to change so you don't feel hungry and you also don't feel anxious so i'm buying this i think that this is this is a real finding it's a real finding yeah doc it's a real finding from a breakthrough study in korea yeah sure
	so reuters did a huge article on doctors getting paid as consultants By the way, anyone remember the Sacklers?
	Everyone remember how that went with the opioids?
	Everyone getting paid?
	Yeah, just double the dose.
	So, one of the doctors, according to this report from Reuters, which I'll just have to say, we're gonna have to take that as fact, Who's been accepting money from Novo Nordisk.
	And by the way, you'll hear that the script is only for Rugovi and Ozempic.
	What they're not talking about is any of the other brands.
	Certainly not Manjaro or Deathbound.
	So one of the doctors accepting the money is Dr. Anya Jasterboff of Yale University's Center for Weight Management.
	And she has received $130,000 as a consultant to this company in Denmark, who I guess needs her services.
	But there's a list.
	This must be a 3,000-word article.
	Oh, and wouldn't you know it?
	Here she is on her own little YouTube channel.
	Somaglutide, like other medications that are used for obesity treatment, have to be taken long-term.
	Just as for any other chronic disease, if a medication is stopped for any reason, the disease is no longer being treated.
	So, for example, if somebody is taking a medication for hypertension, if you stop that antihypertensive medication, the blood pressure goes up and we're not surprised.
	In the same way, if someone is taking a medication for obesity treatment, when it is stopped, weight gain occurs or weight regain occurs more accurately.
	Why is this?
	So, obesity is a chronic disease.
	It's a neurometabolic disease.
	What?
	It's a neuro-metabolic disease.
	This is part of the changing of the truth.
	Yeah.
	No, they've been working on this one for a while.
	And she's paid to confuse you with language into telling you, you have a disease.
	Meaning that our body and our brain talk to each other.
	What happens is our body is very, very smart.
	It wants to carry a certain amount of fuel.
	And the way that our body does this is by carrying fat.
	And our body does not want to carry too little fat because then we would starve.
	And our body also doesn't want to carry too much fat because then we would not be able to do the things that we need to do and have our body function well.
	And so there's a sweet spot.
	And we call that sweet spot the defended fat mass set point.
	The defended fat mass set point.
	I like the idea of a fat mass.
	And so it's basically the amount of fuel or the amount of fat that your body wants to carry.
	Now within the context of our current obesogenic environment.
	Obesogenic environment!
	Woo!
	I like that one too.
	Obesogenic.
	How do they come up with this stuff?
	Obesogenic environment.
	Environment with all of these highly palatable... Say what?
	For a show title, obesogenic.
	Although fat mass, I wonder if fat mass is anything like a fat law.
	We'll get into that later.
	He wants to carry.
	Now, within the context of our current obesogenic environment, so an environment with all of these highly palatable, highly processed foods, the lack of sleep, the lack of mood.
	Oh, an obesogenic environment is basically when you live at McDonald's.
	...ment and physical activity.
	Did she say lack of sleep?
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Lack of sleep.
	That's part of your obesogenic environment.
	Highly palatable, highly processed... Highly palatable?
	What does that mean in this context?
	It means it's tasty.
	They put a bunch of salt and fat.
	Mmm, yum.
	Sugar.
	Mmm.
	All of these highly palatable, highly processed foods.
	The lack of sleep, the lack of movement and physical activity.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	That makes sense!
	Podcast life!
	Podcast life!
	I try to stand sometimes during the podcast.
	Lack of movement and physical activity, stress, all these different things in our obesogenic environment.
	That has pushed up the defended fat mass set point on a population level.
	Oh, beautifully.
	Well said.
	Here's your check.
	Here's your check.
	Boy, I'll tell you, I'd pay her, too.
	Straight to hell she's going, I'm telling you.
	She's good.
	So this came up in the Senate.
	And, I mean, Bernie Sanders, everyone's all in.
	And it's, of course, our obesogenic environment.
	It's really, it's the food guys.
	The food guys.
	It's their fault because they're creating an obesogenic environment.
	They need to put a Senate committee together with Nadler.
	Luckily, at the end, there's one little kicker of sanity from the doctor.
	I should probably say, this again is about trying to get this stuff onto Medicare.
	$113 billion.
	I should probably say this again is about trying to get this stuff onto Medicare.
	They desperately want it to be paid for by the rest of America.
	Senators say last year the U.S.
	spent nearly $413 billion treating the millions in the U.S.
	with diabetes.
	That's up 27% over the past six years.
	Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders says it's only expected to get worse.
	The number of children in America with type 2 diabetes is estimated to skyrocket by nearly 700% over the next 40 years.
	Number one!
	Thursday, Dr. Keisha Lipska told senators on the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee that rising insulin prices put some of her patients' health in jeopardy.
	What happens is that patients cannot afford those medications, and so they go without.
	Senators say with many Americans turning to drugs like Ozempic to improve other conditions like obesity, it's harder for their constituents to even access the diabetes drug.
	How can Congress ensure that all populations that can benefit from this medication have access to it?
	The supply issue is important, but there's also really important shortages because of the price.
	And Sanders says Congress also needs to address how to prevent obesity in the first place.
	A good place to start Would be to ban junk food ads targeted to children.
	Keep the pharma ads!
	Ban the junk food ads!
	Dr. Lipska says Congress needs to do more to hold both the food and drug industries accountable.
	We have a food industry that profits from making people sick and a drug industry that profits from treating them.
	Thank you, doctor.
	There you go.
	Give that lady a check.
	That is exactly what's going on.
	The food companies keep you sick, and the pharmaceutical industry gives you drugs to keep you just healthy enough.
	Alive enough to go buy more crappy food.
	Yes, to push the button, fill out the form, buy more food, eat some meats, people.
	Eat some meat.
	It's unbelievable.
	This is, this is an all-out assault.
	An assault on people.
	Oh, don't worry about it.
	You can just, you know, where do you live?
	Oh, oh, you're in an obesogenic environment.
	No problem.
	We got this special, don't take, don't take the cheap one.
	Uh-uh, because that'll make you poop.
	No!
	You want this one with the dial on it.
	Ah!
	Protect your children, please.
	It's unbelievable, these people.
	Anyway, that was my Big Pharma report.
	Congratulations, everybody!
	Yes, I expect two or three more of these.
	Well, this was the script.
	I don't know if they're going to come up with another angle.
	I could have clipped five more locals and morning shows.
	You know what I expect next?
	Heaven forbids giving us any news, world news, or anything important.
	No, no, no.
	Here's what I expect.
	I expect, before the year is out, we will see a morning news person self-injecting on camera, just to show how easy it is with the dial.
	Well, I'm not going to condemn you for predicting the obvious.
	Well, I just want to see it happen.
	But I agree.
	You're probably right.
	Some idiot, one of these people are going to... Who will it be?
	Who's fat?
	Who's fat?
	I think it should be Al Roker.
	No, Al Roker, he lost all the weight.
	Yeah, I know, but he's still kind of fat.
	How about Whoopi?
	Whoopi?
	No, she won't do it.
	No, she's too smart.
	She's got too much pride.
	Who else do we have?
	Who would do it?
	It has to be one of the women that aren't... It would be something like Savannah who's kind of like, you know... No, she's not... How about Gayle?
	Gayle still has a little punch to her.
	Gayle won't do it.
	No?
	Well, Oprah did it.
	Oprah admitted that she did it.
	Yeah, that's fine, but she was not gonna do it.
	The ones that'll do it on camera have to be the most shameless of the mourning people.
	Yeah.
	That's why I think Savannah would do it.
	But you're right, she probably shouldn't do it.
	People will condemn her for, you're already thin, why are you doing it?
	Yeah, we need someone who's, you know, clearly obesogenic.
	Okay, how about this?
	They do a cattle call and they bring in an anchor from one of the outlying stations.
	Local station, local anchor.
	And they bring her onto the network because this might be her big chance.
	Convince her agent that she should come to New York at her expense.
	Hey, listen, I got some great news for you.
	You're gonna go national, baby!
	You're gonna be on the network!
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, all you gotta do is inject yourself.
	Well, it has to be somebody already taking it, so they won't even be shy about doing it.
	Well, that could be any morning disc jockey.
	That would also... The morning disc jockeys, you know, they always used to... Hey!
	Hey, John!
	How are you doing on the Nutrisystem diet?
	I'm still retaining water, but I'm down to 240 pounds!
	I've been on so many morning... Morning show guys live an obesogenic life.
	They really do.
	They're jolly.
	They're jolly, yes.
	It's just so disturbing that they're calling for, oh, we should outlaw advertising of fast food.
	Keep the drugs going, though.
	Keep them going.
	That was a good one.
	That's actually the best part of that whole series.
	Yes, well that's why I played it last, man.
	I've been doing this for 45 years.
	45 years I've been doing this stuff.
	Sorry, I was rolling into the next bit.
	Roll!
	And now it's time for 3x3!
	Experiment 5JCD!
	Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC!
	That's right!
	He has three network reports, all scripts, all the same stuff.
	Who knows?
	It's always interesting to hear what is going on in JCD's 3x3.
	Well this is an interesting, this leads into my more extensive Hamas report.
	Which will be revealing what I consider to be the scam of this entire conflagration in the Middle East.
	And I'm not sure where this goes except for some clip I have that follows us of Jake Tapper discussing things.
	But let's go at the three by three discussing the conflagration in the Middle East with ABC.
	ABC to start it off.
	Tonight, that high-stakes meeting in Israel.
	Thank you for your support.
	National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to scale back the most intense fighting amid the soaring civilian death toll in Gaza.
	He did talk about possible transitioning from what we would call high-intensity operations, which is what we're seeing them do now, to lower-intensity operations sometime, you know, in the near future.
	A U.S.
	official confirming a report in the New York Times that a lower-intensity operation may involve the use of smaller groups of elite Israeli forces that would carry out more precise missions to find and kill Hamas leaders, rescue hostages, and destroy tunnels.
	President Biden weighing in.
	I want them to be focused on how to save Civilian lives.
	Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful.
	Tonight, a U.S.
	official confirming that nearly half the air-to-ground munitions that Israel has used in Gaza have been unguided.
	So-called dumb bombs.
	Experts say dropping those bombs from Hamas' parachutes, which a Pentagon official claims Israel is doing, can boost their precision.
	And Netanyahu defiant, saying Israel is more determined than ever to continue fighting until Hamas is eliminated.
	The Israeli military is releasing this video showing dozens of men with their hands up surrendering, claiming they're Hamas militants who were operating inside a hospital.
	For the Gazans living under Israel's relentless bombardment, desperation and fear.
	Nowhere is safe.
	And after 69 days of fighting, concern for the more than 100 hostages who are still in the hands of Hamas.
	The Biden administration wants Israel to move to a more tactical, targeted operation as soon as possible.
	But they also want a plan for the future of Gaza, not just the end of Hamas.
	Okay, so let me see if I understood correctly.
	We're calling for some bullcrap measure going from high intensity to low intensity.
	Stop with the dumb bombs!
	And be more focused, be more precise.
	I'm missing the word, I'm missing the word surgical.
	They're missing it too.
	And what's your strategy?
	Is that what I'm hearing?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	And then my favorite thing about these bomb things, when all of a sudden we, smart bombs, dumb bombs.
	Remember the barrel bomb?
	Yeah.
	What ever happened to the barrel bomb?
	From the helicopters.
	Those were the best.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Well, it turns out all of that was phony and fake.
	You think?
	So let's go.
	That was what?
	That was ABC.
	Let's go to NBC.
	Same report, only this time we got a Richard Engel.
	No.
	The Spook.
	NBC Spook.
	As Israel's war on Hamas devastates the Gaza Strip, President Biden was asked if Israel needs to tone down its military operation.
	I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives, not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful.
	National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan.
	Same exact clip.
	Yep, same clip.
	Be more careful.
	Hey, kill carefully.
	Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful.
	National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan meeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today.
	Two U.S.
	officials familiar with the discussion tell NBC News Sullivan told the Israeli government the administration wants Israel to end its large-scale ground campaign in Gaza and transition to a more targeted phase of its war against Hamas.
	But that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this.
	Israeli military officials tell NBC News... What was that?
	Someone in the back room stepped over some cords, knocked the mic over.
	There was supposed to be a bomb explosion there, but instead they did this.
	That's wrong.
	Hey, editor, Nat Pops, okay?
	...but that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this.
	Israeli military officials tell NBC News tonight.
	We should fix that for them.
	I mean, they just didn't do that right.
	Hold on, so let me see.
	I agree.
	Okay, hold on, let me see.
	I think machine gun fire, that's what I like best.
	You want machine gun, machine gun?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I got some good machine gun stuff.
	Okay, I got something here, hold on.
	Should we do an AK-47?
	Hey, why don't I have AK-47?
	Oh, there we go.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	Let's fix it for him.
	We'll fix it.
	...of its war against Hamas, but that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this.
	Israeli military officials tell NBC News tonight they anticipate a long military campaign, but recognize they are under pressure because of Palestinian casualties and the humanitarian collapse in Gaza.
	Our crew filmed the aftermath of Israeli strikes today and followed the victims to a hospital.
	This was in southern Gaza, where Palestinians have been ordered to go.
	Israel says its war is more than justified, after Hamas massacred at least 1,200 Israelis and took 240 hostages on October 7th.
	Richard, I want to go back to this new U.S.
	intelligence assessment about the bombs Israel has been using in Gaza.
	What's the significance of that report?
	Well, the assessment says that about 40 to 45 percent of the air-to-ground munitions, 29,000 air-to-ground munitions that Israel has dropped on Gaza since October 7th, are unguided.
	But you're far less precise.
	Dumb!
	Oh, unguided!
	A different word for dumb.
	Okay.
	Unguided, unguided.
	All right, so we're being set up for something here.
	Not sure what, except I have some ideas which will follow.
	But let's start with the, let's finish this up with our, the one that always is the best at the end is CBS.
	Always, yep, the CIA broadcasting systems.
	Here we go.
	Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.
	Good start boys, good start.
	Very good.
	In a shattered school, Israel's military said it killed many militants in intense fighting in the past day, hailing the surrender of about 70 alleged Hamas fighters.
	In the south, Israeli strikes leveled homes and killed dozens in Rafah and Khan Yunis.
	One survivor said they're children.
	Today's deaths, adding to the more than 18,000 killed, according to Gaza's health ministry run by Hamas.
	President Biden weighed in.
	I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives.
	Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful.
	Be more careful.
	U.S.
	National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan in Israel today pressed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a timeline.
	Two U.S.
	officials tell CBS News Israel's current phase of its offensive should be completed in two to three weeks, followed by lower levels of bombing for several months.
	Lower levels?
	On Israeli TV, Mr. Netanyahu said, I told our American friends, we're more determined than ever until Hamas is eliminated.
	He's playing a game, a political game.
	Look at me, I'm standing up to American pressure.
	Alon Pincus is Israel's former Consul General in New York.
	What future pressure will the U.S.
	apply?
	Refrain from a veto vote at the U.N.
	Security Council.
	There are several courses of pressure that the U.S.
	can apply.
	One of those are these frequent visits.
	As Israel's president in Tel Aviv marked the last night of this year's Festival of Lights, the country still hopes for a miracle.
	The return of more than 100 hostages still held in captivity.
	And while the U.S.
	and Israel are working together towards another phase of hostage releases, the two do not agree on who will govern Gaza after this war is over.
	Well, at least they gave a better timeline.
	They had the same clip of Biden, of course, kill carefully.
	Exactly the same clip, which usually all three networks don't have the exact same clip cut exactly the same.
	So how does that happen?
	Do they call each other up?
	No, they got their marching orders.
	Do they get one clip from the White House and say, use this?
	They send out a vinyl like we used to get back in the day.
	That big, big special vinyl you could only play five times.
	16-inch transcription disc is what it's called.
	Thank you.
	Yes.
	Look that up, people.
	Transcription disc.
	And you take the clip from there.
	That's all they got.
	Yeah, of course.
	People are busy in the newsrooms.
	They don't have time to be looking for clips.
	They don't have no agenda producers looking for clips for everybody.
	No.
	No.
	They are busy.
	They're busy.
	Especially around the holidays.
	This is the B team.
	Everybody's out.
	Oh, we got a war.
	Yeah, but you promised me two weeks of vacation at Christmas time, but we got two wars.
	Yeah, I don't care.
	Bring in Bob.
	Bob works at, uh, in Idaho.
	He can do it.
	Bring in the affiliate boys.
	Yeah, there is an element of that for sure.
	Um, so I want to continue this because I have a thesis that, of course the thesis is not new to the show.
	And it's not new to our analysis of the Middle East.
	Then why even bother?
	Let's just go straight to Taylor Swift news.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	By the way, you know the incognigro who writes me every so often?
	Really?
	He's still around?
	He doesn't write much?
	Yeah, he sends me clips.
	And he sent me a clip of a, I should, I should, I'll send it to you and you should put it on the show notes.
	It's a clip of a guy doing an analysis of Taylor Swift's Lame Music.
	And it's, she uses the same four chords in the same progression on almost every song she does.
	It's MK Ultra.
	Yeah, well I think you might be on to something with that.
	Hey, does Incognigro not like me?
	Do I recall something and he hated me for some reason?
	You're a racist.
	Oh, that was it.
	You're making up for it by being buddies with Moe.
	My best friend happens to be black.
	I get to say that.
	I have a friend who's black.
	Who happens to be black.
	You gotta say it right.
	He happens to be black.
	Right, I gotta get the wording down correctly.
	Gotta get it right.
	So let's go to NTD and I want to play this.
	This is the Israeli Jake Sullivan NTD.
	This is N.T.D.
	National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan is in Israel to reaffirm U.S.
	support.
	He's meeting with top officials pushing to move to war into its next phase.
	The U.S.
	wants more intelligence-based raids and precise targeting of Hamas leadership.
	We are now in the middle of a high-intensity phase with ongoing ground operations, military operations.
	Hold on a second.
	Is this our war?
	Exactly.
	What's going on here?
	Oh, send Jake in.
	Hey man, we want it done differently.
	You're not killing right.
	So if you listen to that carefully, and it reiterates in the next half of this clip, he says we.
	Yes, we.
	As if it's our USA, our war.
	It's not a we situation, but he says we as though it's we.
	So let's listen to the second half of this.
	We are now in the middle of a high-intensity phase with ongoing ground operations, military operations, in both the northern half and the southern half of Gaza.
	But there will be a transition to another phase of this war, one that is focused in more precise ways on targeting the leadership and Sullivan today also met with Israeli President Isaac Herzog in Tel Aviv.
	The two discussed efforts to secure the release of the hostages held in Gaza.
	Nah, I don't like any of this.
	What are we doing?
	Yeah, what are we doing?
	Meanwhile, just as a little interesting kind of in the side, which got me off the track into what I'm thinking, which is this clip.
	Hamas operatives in the EU.
	Oh, yeah, I know.
	Also today, two suspected Hamas members arrived at a federal court in Germany.
	German authorities transported them using a helicopter.
	They're accused of planning attacks on Jewish institutions in Europe.
	Authorities arrested three men in Germany yesterday.
	Prosecutors alleged they were tasked with finding a previously set up underground Hamas weapons cache in Europe.
	The weapons were allegedly due to be taken to Berlin.
	There, they'd be kept in a state of readiness for potential terrorist attacks.
	Another suspected Hamas operative was arrested in the Dutch city of Rotterdam.
	And also yesterday, three alleged terrorists were arrested in Denmark in a separate case.
	Oh yeah?
	Well, this is... this is come due.
	Yeah, well... Yes, I mean, this is... oh boy!
	This is unexpected!
	This is as phony as ISIS and Al Qaeda.
	And it's actually brought together of all places.
	Mark Levin has a show on the weekends.
	And he brings in Alan Dershowitz.
	And the two of them...
	Outline kind of what I think is, I don't know what agency, who's doing this.
	It's obvious to me now that Dersh, Dersh, our buddy Dersh.
	He's an asset?
	He's an asset.
	He's, and you can tell because he's 80.
	I can discuss this if, maybe later, on how much you can write as you get older.
	He's 85 and he's just finished his second book.
	Oh, he's writing too much.
	That's a giveaway.
	It's a giveaway.
	It's like the guy who did the Steve Jobs biography, who was the head of the Aspen Institute at the time.
	Eisenberg.
	Isaacson.
	Isaacson, that guy.
	My favorite example is... He just did the Elon Musk book, too.
	Yeah, he's cranking these books out.
	Who's doing these books?
	Well, somebody's doing the books.
	I've done big books.
	I know what it takes to do big books.
	There's nothing you can just crank out like that without a team of people.
	I like big books and I cannot lie.
	Yes.
	I like big books and I cannot lie.
	Let's go with this.
	Let's start with the Hamas, Levin, and Dersh.
	To protect Jewish students on college campuses, to daily beat the drums about what's taking place in this country.
	Every time they mention, when they do mention anti-Semitism, they feel the need to mention... I gotta mention something.
	Levin's voice, the older he gets, his voice is less powerful.
	It's frail.
	I agree.
	You know what I mean?
	He's missing something.
	I worry about that for myself.
	My powerful voice.
	No, you're sounding good.
	You have nothing to worry about.
	It's becoming frail.
	Don't worry.
	Because I can't say borrower.
	Yeah, don't worry.
	I'll put the balls on you on my end.
	Yeah, put the balls on me!
	Islamophobia.
	There is no Islamophobia in America, as I've said before.
	Islamophobia is in the Middle East.
	Islamophobia!
	Where Muslims are slaughtering Muslims.
	That's not going on in this country.
	And Muslims are not running to their dorm rooms and locking themselves in, or the lunch rooms, or the attics.
	They're not afraid to go to class, and so forth and so on.
	And I could go on and on and on, but why should I when I have a guest like Alan Dershowitz here?
	What do you make of all this?
	Well, you're 100% right.
	This is an attack against the world.
	We just learned that now Hamas is expanding its scope and it wants to attack Jewish entities in Europe.
	It's coming to a theater near you!
	If Hamas is not stopped in the Middle East, It will spread all over the world.
	It will start with Jewish institutions, as it often does, but it will spread to Christian institutions, it will spread to other institutions, and we'll be in a global war with Hamas as we were with ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
	And we must do to Hamas What the American troops under Roosevelt and under Churchill did to Japan and Germany.
	Bomb them!
	Total unconditional surrender.
	Total war.
	Total defeat.
	We must wipe out Hamas.
	And people say, you can't wipe out an ideology.
	Nonsense!
	We wiped out Nazism!
	Oh, what a gem!
	This is good.
	Oh yeah.
	What, they're going to be shooting up churches?
	Is that what I'm understanding from Dershowitz?
	Yeah, any minute.
	Yeah, bring it on.
	Now we know that Hezbollah is a huge, highly funded operation.
	Hamas are a bunch of two-bit jerk-offs in Palestine running the place.
	Oh, say JV team.
	That would be funny.
	And so we have, but now all of a sudden they're in the same league as Al Qaeda, a creation of our CIA.
	Or ISIS, the creation of the Obama administration.
	And Israel, possibly.
	And, but they're not going to take over the place.
	And Pakistan.
	And Pakistan.
	So these operate, now Hamas is going to become this somehow.
	And we heard from that other clip that they're already being arrested left and right in Europe.
	In Europe?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so here we go.
	Now we're going to hear the... It gets better.
	Professor... I'm sorry.
	Wait, I'm just going to... I have to give a disclaimer.
	I think this next clip is over time by a couple of seconds, and I'm sorry about that, but it's too good.
	I forgive you.
	It's okay.
	Professor Dershowitz, I'd like your opinion.
	We keep hearing about the Palestinian civilians that they don't want any of this.
	There's two surveys done in the last three and a half weeks.
	One is by the Arab World for Research and Development.
	That doesn't sound like an American Jewish front group to me.
	And it's not.
	And what are they right?
	Taken as a whole, the results indicate that an overwhelming percent of Palestinians support the October 7 massacre, 75%.
	Reject coexistence with Israel, 86%.
	Are committed to the restoration of historical Palestine, which means the elimination of Israel.
	As a final solution, 71%.
	They support the creation of a Palestinian state from the river to the sea, the annihilation of Israel, 75% as the end of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
	These are Palestinians who were surveyed in Gaza and Judea and Samaria.
	They said the Palestinian positive perception of terror organizations remains high, despite their role in carrying out the massacre and disastrous results.
	76% believe that Hamas plays a somewhat to very positive role.
	84% believe that the Palestinian Islamic Jihad plays a somewhat to very positive role.
	80% believe that Fatah's terror wing, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, plays a somewhat to very positive role.
	And 88.6% believe that Hamas' armed wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, plays a somewhat very positive function.
	So why do the media keep telling us there's this tremendous distinction, this great distance between Hamas and other terrorist groups and the people who elect them and support them?
	Why do they keep telling us that?
	Well, it's a lie.
	We know that not only do the vast majority of people in Gaza and on the West Bank support the Hamas atrocities, in Gaza many of them helped it.
	Remember when Hamas broke through the fence and start killing Israelis, Gazan civilians followed them.
	They participated in the rapes, the beheadings, the murders.
	Gazan civilians Help them by having tunnels under their homes, by having command centers, by having rockets being fired from schools and from mosques.
	So look, we all have to be sympathetic to the babies and the children who are used as human shields, by the way, by Hamas.
	And every single one of these babies who were killed is the responsibility of Hamas.
	But I'm far less sympathetic to the adults who aggressively support Hamas.
	You know, if they were in America, they'd be tried for crimes because you can't, under American law, provide material support for a terrorist group.
	And these Gazans are providing material support for Hamas, which is a terrorist group.
	All right.
	So I'm obviously on board with your thesis.
	It's a long-standing no agenda thesis.
	Do you think that this is intended just to create a state of fear, a tension strategy amongst the United States and Western Europe?
	Well, I think, as this continues, I have maybe three more clips that might add to this.
	So, it's a known fact, at least it's been a known fact, and it's discussed in some forums here and there, that there's 1.4 trillion cubic feet of gas right under Gaza.
	There's over 3 billion barrels of oil right off the coast at Gaza.
	They are, they have, I think that this was a deal where they decided some time ago they're going to let them develop this.
	They cut Gaza loose.
	There's not an occupied territory.
	The Israelis left it and left it to the Palestinians to develop and do their own thing and then maybe do some split deals, maybe who knows what.
	But that was going to be a developed oil field and gas field.
	And they dropped the ball.
	They didn't do their job.
	And now they're going to be rousted out of Gaza.
	They're just going to get rid of all the Palestinians.
	Let's put shit like this in.
	Discuss the fact that the Palestinians are bad people, which is what you just heard in that clip.
	And who cares what happens to them?
	And we're going to hear more and more of this kind of thing.
	It's going to be Slanted that way so we can get to those gas and oil wells.
	And the fact we have to always remember a couple of things that in the background is that Biden and the Democrats are phonies.
	And the Democrats in particular like to string people along like they've done with the black population in this country and promising them stuff.
	And they're doing with the environmentalists as the Biden administration has more has done more for the oil business than Trump ever would do.
	Just look at the price of Exxon stock from the day that Biden got in.
	We are pumping more oil than ever before.
	The whole Burisma thing is an oil thing.
	People say, why the crude oil prices?
	They haven't done anything with this Middle East action.
	They usually go up.
	No, they've gone down because we are going to pump more oil out of this area.
	This is about oil.
	We're going to rouse these Palestinians to hell with them.
	Get them out of there.
	If they won't pump the oil because they're too stupid, we'll do it.
	Woo!
	It's been a while, been a while.
	Well, this explains why they can't bomb them.
	We can't really bomb it.
	That would be no good.
	And that may also explain why these Hamas guys are in Qatar.
	They know a bit about gas and oil.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	In fact, Cutter probably has dropped the ball on this deal, too.
	Somebody dropped the ball somewhere, because these oil fields were known, especially the gas field underneath Gaza itself.
	Let's go to clip three.
	And as I say, it's coming to America.
	It's coming to Europe.
	Hamas is not going to stop.
	If it prevails in the Middle East, it's going to continue just the way al-Qaeda and other groups have continued.
	So we have to stop it in the interest of America.
	And when I say bomb though, I mean like big bombs.
	Like mother of all bombs.
	Like bombs to exterminate.
	No, you can't do that.
	No, you can't do that.
	You just gotta rouse them.
	You gotta clear these people out.
	And here is the clip 4.
	And Israel should be a bipartisan issue.
	All sides should support Israel without regard to what parties they belong to.
	And there's been a rise in popularity of Hamas in the United States as well.
	On October 8th, the day after these horrors that occurred on September 7th, students at Harvard supported Hamas.
	The National Lawyers Guild supported Hamas.
	I document all of this.
	I wrote a book right after the events in question.
	I started writing it on October 7th, the war against the Jews.
	And in it, I document how increased support for Hamas...
	Hamas occurred among the hard left.
	The hard left has become the enemy of justice, of decency, of academia, and we have to continue our fight not only against Hamas, but against Hamas supporters in the United States that can become easily a fifth column.
	Remember in the 1970s when the weathermen started blowing up universities, trying to blow up Fort Dix.
	That's going to happen here.
	We have a fifth column of hard left Hamas supporters, many of them Muslim, many of them not Muslim, many of them hard left kids, our friends' children are marching with Hamas.
	And that's why it's so dangerous to Americans and to the world, and why we have to fight back.
	Ideologically, we have a combination on our college campuses and beyond of an Islamist and a Marxist ideology, because they both support the same thing, the destruction of the Enlightenment, the destruction of Western culture, and they are genocidal.
	Your book, The War Against the Jews, How to End Hamas Barbarism, let me tell you what's fascinating about your book, among other things.
	How you wrote it as quickly as you did, how you got it published as quickly as you did, and it's not only prescient, it's up-to-date on everything that's going on in this country, which is why I wanted to have you on.
	You can get this on Amazon.com, any major bookstore.
	Wow!
	So he banged that out in two months?
	And published.
	Anyone who's ever been in the publishing business knows... No.
	No, no, no.
	That's not even close to being possible.
	He banged it out and has it edited, copy-edited, design, typeset, everything published in 60 days.
	Now the other thing, which is just a little sidelight here, which I'm starting to notice, and you start thinking about this as just an oil play, and you start looking back at all the complaining, all this fear-mongering about, oh the southern border, Hamas is coming up the southern border.
	Hamas!
	They've gone from this two-bit operation in Gaza to this world threat overnight, and we just lap it up.
	Both sides, especially the right, the right-wingers lap this stuff up.
	But here's the thing that's been going on, because I caught two of these and I have one of them, I clipped one of them, and this is the Cuomo.
	The first one I heard, which I didn't clip, which was on the Pierce Morgan Show, and one of his correspondents was pretty much saying what Cuomo is saying here about they're starting to show the tapes of the atrocities.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Now, I'm very concerned about this because of the of the wag the dog idea.
	It's not an idea, it's a plan.
	Two and a half months after the event.
	Two and a half months is a lot of time to do whatever you want to do.
	You can fake a moon landing.
	Now you're talking.
	Welcome to the dark side.
	That'd liven you up so you'd put up with these clips.
	Let's listen to Hamas Cuomo revelation.
	Today has been a heavy day around here.
	Why?
	Well, many of us have seen portions of video of the October 7th massacre.
	What Hamas terrorists did mostly to innocent Israelis.
	Now is he going to mention that this was what the IDF compiled and they showed it to the international news media in a theater?
	for 45 minutes they showed that and this is and you know I'm really starting to think you're onto something here because the thing that I noticed immediately it's all body cam it's all first-person shooter like stuff it's all it's all and you know which is easy to intermingle with with with game footage but there are things that you have not seen because they were never posted or made public and the reality of them
	Hits hard.
	Oh, tell me he saw the the chopping off babies heads.
	Very hard.
	I know because I was shown a good amount of it today.
	47 minutes worth.
	That's a lot of one type of terror footage.
	And I now understand something that Hamas was doing and that Israel is responding to that I did not fully appreciate before.
	Now, I still think you should see what I saw.
	But to be honest, the shock of today is a little fresh, and I'm not as adamant about that as I was before I went to the viewing.
	So I'll try to convey what hit me about it.
	And at some point, it's always better if you get to see and decide for yourself.
	All right?
	But what I'm going to talk to you about is going to inform why Israel is not anxious to agree to what seems obvious to many, including the United States, its most powerful, influential ally.
	The bombing has to stop.
	And before the end of the year.
	That's what President Biden is saying.
	Suggesting deadlines and clearly criticizing Israel's tactics.
	And it is raising a question.
	Could the United States withdraw support from its main ally in the Middle East?
	Hmm.
	I'm always surprised how we as humans can put different levels of death into, like, this is worse death than that death.
	Yes, I know.
	You know, whether you bomb someone to death or chop their head off to death or burn them to death, it's death.
	You know, it's just, it's death, it's not cool.
	No matter what.
	But this is where we work on the psyche of people.
	And the 47 minutes, I believe, is the entire IDF compendium.
	I think it is, but you don't even know if it's the same one, because they're showing it again to certain select journalists like him.
	I mean, is this any different from anything we've already seen on Telegram?
	Is it all of that stuff?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	All I know is that this whole thing looks like we're being played.
	And we're being played by both sides, and the oil companies are somehow involved.
	And the military industrial complex.
	That's all I can conclude.
	And they're good at it.
	And these protests, you have to wonder, what's really triggering those?
	Is it environmental groups?
	Is it lefties?
	And now you're into my territory.
	Well, I have some protest clips from South Africa.
	They're protesting in Pakistan.
	They're protesting everywhere for no reason.
	Why are they protesting this Palestinian situation in South Africa?
	Allow me to start with some political protests.
	As we saw the trade unions in America come together.
	The UAW, the United Auto Workers.
	Who had a very successful strike, I would say, against the car manufacturers.
	Yeah, if you want to lose your job.
	And the UEW, the United Electrical Workers, and they had their statement.
	The world's seen enough slaughter and devastation.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	I just want to stop you there.
	The what workers?
	I thought the electrical workers were the IBEW.
	Who are these guys?
	I don't know.
	It said, it said UEW.
	Let me see.
	UEW?
	Maybe, let's make sure I'm right.
	UEW.
	Hold on.
	UEW.
	Who is the UEW?
	W?
	University of Education, Winnetoba?
	No. Maybe I should add union.
	I'm just doing Book of Knowledge here.
	Let's see.
	UAW.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Does it even exist?
	The video literally had UEW and said United Electrical Workers.
	I don't know of such.
	I was actually, for a very short time, was a member of the IBEW, and that's a very famous huge union for electrical workers.
	Uh, Unite Electrical Radio Machine Workers?
	That's what you're talking about, right?
	With the IBEW?
	International Brotherhood of Electrical Organized Electricians?
	No, here I have... Unite Electrical.
	That's the U-E.
	I don't know.
	I'll have to go back.
	This clip is from Turkish radio television, so take it with that grain of salt, but these are union people who are in America.
	I'm pretty sure that's correct.
	The world's seen enough slaughter and devastation.
	Peace is the only path forward.
	This is the time for workers to leverage our labor power and electoral power, to stand in uncompromising solidarity with the cause of Palestinian freedom.
	While we call for a ceasefire, We also condemn anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, all of which are growing in our nation at this moment and must be stopped.
	The right-wing government of Israel.
	is taking the lasting trauma of Israeli Jews from the Holocaust and is using it to traumatize generations of Palestinians whose trauma will inevitably result in a new generation of resistance occupation.
	We can't accept that.
	Now that guy sounds like a union worker.
	I like that guy.
	That guy was good.
	Yeah, actually he does.
	But, you know, union workers, we know who backs them.
	It's all political.
	This one, though, was kind of surprising.
	This is the Google employees.
	I am here in opposition to Israel's system of apartheid that curtails Palestinian rights and ends Palestinian lives.
	A system that my employer materially supports through its involvement with Project Nimbus.
	Follow on Google to drop the project.
	So that was big.
	It was a very big protest at Google, and they're protesting Project Nimbus, which I looked up, which is a cloud computing project of the Israeli government.
	This is what Google does.
	They do cloud computing.
	Yeah, that's their thing.
	Yeah, they're basically saying don't do business for Israel, which I found to be quite surprising.
	Then we have, and then, you know, after these two, which is weird because Israel is also, we should always remember that Israel is a tech hub for the United States.
	It's one of our development areas, especially in Haifa.
	Oh yeah.
	I mean, Intel, I'd say most of their processors are Or every other processor is designed from Israel.
	Good point.
	We're going to ban Intel machines.
	Intel outside.
	Watch.
	Netanyahu, he's got, this is very political, he's got all the protests happening in his front yard.
	Israel's military says it has accidentally killed three of the hostages kidnapped by Hamas during its October 7 terror attacks.
	The three Israelis were reportedly shot after being mistaken as a threat by soldiers pursuing Palestinian militants in Gaza City.
	The loved ones of those kidnapped are demanding immediate return of the remaining hostages and say their safety must be prioritized over the fighting.
	News of the hostage killings galvanized demonstrators in Tel Aviv.
	Roads were blocked as hundreds demanded the safe return of those still in Gaza ten weeks after they were kidnapped.
	With much of the anger directed at Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
	I would say that he is responsible for everything that is happening, that happened, and is still happening.
	He has blood, a lot of blood on his hands, and he should resign now.
	There you go.
	They're calling for his head.
	He must resign.
	It's all his fault.
	And he has a response.
	His response is a giant clock.
	Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that the relentless bombing campaign could help push Hamas back to the negotiating table.
	A possibility he revealed as the head of the Israeli spy agency has been in talks with the Prime Minister of Qatar.
	Without the military pressure, we would not have been able to create a deal to release more than 100 hostages.
	And only further military pressure will lead to the return of all of our hostages.
	Netanyahu said the accidental killings of three Israeli hostages by the military, even as they had been waving a white flag, broke his heart and the nation's heart.
	But he committed to the military campaign in Gaza until, he said, Hamas was dismantled.
	In Tel Aviv, as the large clock continues to count the seconds since the hostages were taken by Hamas on October 7th, families turned up the heat on the government to get hostage talks back on track.
	And a senior member of Hamas weighed in.
	Saying the three hostage deaths at the hands of the Israeli military proved Israel's campaign was a strategic and technical failure.
	I tell those Israeli prisoners' relatives who set a clock in Tel Aviv counting the time until their loved ones come back, this clock of yours could go forever.
	If the Israeli want the hostages and the prisoners to come back alive, this won't happen unless there is a complete cessation of Israeli aggression There you go.
	Big clock.
	Big clock.
	That'll show you.
	She brought up the hostages that were shot.
	I have this funny clip from RT.
	Only a few of these outlets, I would say Democracy Now, RT and the others, discuss the details of these guys getting shot.
	This clip is hostages shot.
	Seems clear enough.
	Reported details from the IDF's investigation have sparked a wave of discontent in Tel Aviv with new intensity.
	They say that the hostages who were killed were actually waving a makeshift white flag.
	In later comments, the IDF was quoted as saying that Hamas militants have previously used white flags to lure Israeli soldiers into ambushes.
	Now one of the killed hostages was reportedly shouting for help in Hebrew right before he was shot dead.
	The IDF spokesman or spokesperson says that the army identified them as a threat, while Israel's Army Chief of General Staff stated that the troops are responsible.
	Firing at the hostages was against the army's instructions for opening fire.
	It is prohibited to shoot at people holding a white flag and attempting to surrender, but this shooting was done during fighting and under pressure.
	The patients of the relatives of the families of the hostages...
	...are ending.
	They demand the Israeli government now to do more, and they are saying that Israeli Prime Minister and his war cabinet are not committed enough, and it is not their first priority to bring back the hostages, about 130 Israelis that are still in the captivity of the terrorists of Hamas, and some of them are elderly women, children, and their relatives of those hostages You know, I had to cut that off.
	Let me just say one thing.
	Your assertion here about the oil and gas, I would have said, yeah, maybe, because, you know, there's a lot offshore at Lebanon.
	We know about the Leviathan Field.
	We know that Israel had a big... Yeah, but that's north.
	No, I know.
	Bear with me.
	I'm with you.
	I'm agreeing with you.
	The reason why I think you're really on to something is because you and Horowitz, you track these prices.
	And everything we've seen in the past, when there was a Middle East skirmish, oil prices go up.
	And it's just not the case.
	It's going down.
	Yes.
	Actually going way down.
	That means that there is knowledge.
	There is knowledge that this is all for good.
	And how much longer do they have to bomb before there's just nobody left?
	I don't think it can be that much longer.
	I don't know.
	This is the tough part.
	But I'm going to go back to that clip I just played.
	So in other reports of these guys, they came out shirtless waving a white flag.
	Yeah.
	And then the report in that RT report was interesting because they said, well, that white flag doesn't mean that much because they've been ambushed numerous times by Hamas guys waving a white flag and then they get ambushed.
	Isn't that a war crime?
	Isn't that a war crime?
	And the other thing is that walking around in civilian, without even having uniforms, just as a military group amongst civilians, pretending to be civilians, isn't that a war crime?
	I love rules of war.
	I'm just saying they always bring it up that this this is a war crime, that's a war crime, this is a war, but they never bring this stuff up when it comes to Hamas.
	They never say that they're committing war crimes.
	Who's they?
	They talk about the massacre, the one-day massacre.
	Who's they?
	Who's they?
	The mainstream media.
	Oh, okay.
	And in fact I would say the RT, Russian media, which is part of the mainstream, in my opinion.
	Wait a minute, this makes no sense.
	So the Media, which we know is run by Jews, they're not bringing that up.
	Yeah, the joke is what kind of Jews are running the media?
	If they're not bringing that up.
	There's a bunch of, this is, there's too many anomalies.
	It's, it's rife.
	And so I'm more, every time, and these, these contradictory issues, like not saying, you know, oh, we can't confirm it, but we can, we will, we'll confirm this, we won't confirm that.
	The, everything is, stinks to high heaven.
	We're also missing a lot of key elements of, uh, Of traditional war crimes.
	We're missing the Captagon.
	What is it?
	What is the cheap meth drug?
	We haven't had Hamas taking that.
	We haven't had them taking Viagra to rape.
	We're missing some key elements that are typical for this type of operation.
	So this is different.
	Now, if we're going to talk about gas fields, who are the people that would be vying for control of these gas fields?
	And that's, I think, who's behind the protests, these left-wing protests.
	I think Russia's got something to do with this.
	Because Putin just did his, and I'm going to say that for this reason, this is a stretch and I can't prove a word of it, of a supposition like this, but Putin just did his 10 hour long, his classic yearly press conference.
	His annual show.
	None of this came up that I know of.
	It just seems that this is something you could chide people.
	Oh, you know, they're just after the oil and gas.
	I think they've got a lot to do with this.
	And all these Palestinian protests in the United States here, and everybody falling in line, and all these flags.
	Who's making these flags?
	I mean, the whole thing is just stinks.
	It stinks.
	If that's true, if that's true, you know, as part of the end times and revelation, if Russia is literally involved in this, that's bad.
	That's really bad.
	That's the one thing you don't want to see is Russia being involved in this one.
	That's biblical.
	It's the gas.
	1.4 trillion cubic feet.
	Natural gas under Gaza.
	Not in the ocean.
	The oil's in the ocean.
	The gas is right there.
	Can't you side drill?
	Do you need to go straight down?
	Can't you just sit on the sidelines and drill from the side?
	There's a bunch of international law about that.
	Oh, we're back to law.
	By the way, I will mention this, this 1.4 trillion cubic feet, this is why this thing's been dragging on so long.
	It was in 2000 that two wells drilled by British gas discovered there's a reserve of 1.4 trillion cubic feet of natural gas under there.
	All right, well, so, uh, this would be the reason why we need to kill carefully.
	Kill carefully?
	Let's slow down on the big bombs.
	I think the whole idea is to roust them.
	They started at the north, and they said, you got to get out of here, and they, because there's tunnels.
	You got to, you got to get out of there, because the tunnels, there's all, there's all these command centers under the hospitals.
	Get out!
	So they moved them south, and they started bombing.
	They're trying to get them out, and they're trying to get Egypt to accept them.
	Egypt's got to be part of this deal.
	Well, but they're not.
	Egypt has the border closed.
	No, Egypt has said, no, we've got nothing to do with this.
	Right.
	But the public at large doesn't know what the hell's going on.
	This whole thing stinks.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Well, I think you've covered it.
	I don't know, maybe.
	I think you have.
	I think you've covered it.
	I do want to play one more of these clips from South Africa.
	I just think they're too funny.
	Okay.
	This is really South Africa protests.
	And in South Africa, Reconciliation Day has taken on a new form, as hundreds there also gathered for a pro-Palestine march, knowing first-hand what genocide and forced displacement looks like.
	Local journalist Katlegum Somi told us more in this report.
	Well, this doesn't make much sense if Russia's in on it.
	I, believe me, none of it makes sense.
	But I'm just, that's why I can't prove anything about the Russians.
	But this idea that... This is part of the apartheid.
	Now if I'm not mistaken, wasn't South Africa first populated by the Afrikaners out of Holland?
	And there was nothing there except a few Bantus.
	There was really no...
	There was no genocide or forced evacuations back whenever that year was.
	Irrelevant.
	Colonialism.
	That's what it is.
	Colonialism.
	So we're lying a new history is what we're managing to do with these protests.
	And South Africa protesting about Palestine is ludicrous.
	But okay.
	In fact, I don't even want to play any more of the clips.
	Oh, goodness.
	You're mad.
	You're mad!
	All right, well then let me bring it stateside for a moment.
	Because we are ratcheting up tension.
	We are, and it's all political, obviously.
	We just had the Obama connected movie about, you know, the cyber attack.
	The hackers were all gonna die.
	Throw in some racial stuff.
	But now, the M5M is coming out with a new one, because we of course now need to talk about civil war.
	And I can tell you that there's not going to be a civil war in America.
	Just isn't.
	Do you have any feeling there's going to be an all-out civil war, John?
	Have you ever considered that there's even an inkling of that happening?
	No, it's an obvious talking point from the mainstream and Fox talking heads that have to talk about something and this is pretty exciting.
	And I'm going to add to that one of the info mavericks, the new M5M.
	I'm calling Tim Pool out as that.
	So there's a new movie, you might have seen the trailer, it's called Civil War.
	Yeah, it's called Civil War.
	I've seen the trailer.
	Yes, 15 states secede from the Union and create an army and they go to, and funny enough, it's Texas and California because now, of course, we love each other.
	Yeah, that's the joke of it.
	In fact, I think, to be honest about it, I think that's the code.
	That is not even within the realm of possibilities.
	So you do that as a wink wink nudge nudge to the people that are laughing up their sleeves about this movie.
	Yes, but Tim Pool is all in on it and he's a part of it.
	It's the moment you've all been waiting for.
	You're playing a Tim Pool clip?
	I am, because he's part of this new info maverick elite.
	He's a part of it.
	And he's proud of it.
	It's the moment you've all been waiting for.
	News dropped that a new film is coming out in 2024 called Civil War.
	What is it about?
	Oh man, you better believe I'm excited.
	It is a film about a civil war in the United States.
	And I gotta say, based on the trailer, I'm gonna go, meh.
	It is funny that this trailer drops and I get all these people tweeting at me being like, Tim Pool, what do you think?
	Yo, let me start by saying this.
	The reason the movie exists has nothing to do with me.
	The reason I talk about Civil War is the same reason someone made a movie about it.
	It's the same reason Stephen Marsh wrote a book about it.
	It's the same reason why numerous news outlets have written the same thing.
	We're all looking at an ever-expanding culture war, division among states, and many people advocating for national divorce, including elected members of Congress.
	So, you may watch my show and think Tim Pool talks about this a lot, but I gotta be honest, I probably talk about it less than many in the corporate press.
	As a large brand, several of these news outlets have way more articles about civil war than videos I produce.
	I'm a single person.
	But if you only watch my show, or you mostly watch it, you'll see stories about Civil War pop up or the conversation happen.
	Somebody invested a lot of money into making a movie about Civil War.
	Why?
	It's on the American mind.
	It's in the media.
	No.
	It's in books.
	It's coming from the mouths of Princeton professors.
	And that resulted in me saying, hey guys, I think this might be right.
	Bullshit!
	Get out of town.
	Can I mention something he did that Cuomo does too?
	Cuomo did it.
	He just did it.
	Where you ask a question and then throw the word why.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh, they all do that.
	They all do that.
	You say, well, why do you think this is a why?
	You know, you make a statement and say why, and you say why, and then you answer the question you asked yourself.
	Yeah.
	You may only watch my show.
	Come on.
	That was good.
	I like that.
	Well, he knows how to promote.
	Well, yeah, but he's promoting it.
	I have to say, you know, I like his sound.
	You like his sound?
	I do.
	I think it has a certain clarity.
	It's not like your sound, but I think he's got it.
	I think his sound is... You heathen.
	I really like his sound.
	I think he's got a nice sound for his voice.
	I think it's got an... What can I say?
	Yeah, you didn't have to say it at all, really.
	I didn't, you're right.
	It was completely unnecessary roughness.
	But you're going to play the clip.
	You deserve it.
	But this is what's not good for anybody.
	This is the new mainstream is starting to show itself.
	And it's like Twitter talking.
	It's led, you know, where the old mainstream has New York Times and the new mainstream has Elon Musk, basically.
	And whatever he wants to have happen on X. And there's a lot, it's dumb.
	There's a lot of dumbness flooding through and people are thinking, this is great, freedom of speech.
	These people, they know what they're talking about.
	Yeah, civil war.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	You're being played here.
	And Tim Poole may not be, he's not a conscious participant, probably.
	But it's just this, it's wrong.
	A lot of these guys are getting a memo and, you know, okay, do this, do that.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like the script, you know, the script kiddies, or the kiddies, the script readers on the mainstream.
	I'm gonna go back, I'll say it again.
	What the New York Times was doing and still does for mainstream, M5M, that's what X and Musk is doing for this new, these info mavericks.
	And it's not healthy.
	And I'm, we have to, we have to go against it.
	We gotta call him out, man!
	We call him out.
	We gotta call him out!
	That's what we gotta do.
	Meanwhile, I will say that the best news that came off of X, which of course, we've got all the videos on X for this one, this is just mind-boggling.
	The United States Senate is being rocked by a sex scandal.
	U.S.
	Capitol Police are investigating after a sex tape surfaced online.
	It showed two men engaged in sex acts inside room 216 of the Harris Senate office building.
	That's a famous hearing room where U.S.
	senators have grilled high-profile presidential nominees.
	By the way, I like your script.
	Very funny.
	Grilled.
	Very funny.
	U.S.
	Senators have grilled high-profile presidential nominees, including Supreme Court justices.
	It's unclear if the tape will be considered criminal conduct, but it may have violated Senate ethics rules.
	I mean, this was disgusting.
	And it's just posted everywhere.
	What is going on?
	How does this happen?
	It's the funniest thing I've seen for a while.
	And it is disgusting.
	One guy looks identifiable.
	Oh no, everyone knows who he is.
	He's known now.
	Okay, well who is he?
	Oh, I didn't even write it down.
	Are you kidding me?
	Are you kidding me?
	I'm not gonna write that down.
	He's, and they know who's, he's from a Democrat Senator's office, he's a staffer.
	There's another picture of him on whatever gay sex website, and he's naked in what he calls the work showers with his butt in the air, and he says, I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham.
	So I don't know.
	This is some very deep op that I'm... There's something going on.
	We don't know what it is.
	We'll figure it out if it continues because these things are not that complicated.
	So meanwhile, you were talking about Taylor Swift.
	I hate to say it, but...
	And now, back to Real News.
	Taylor Swift, the op, continues.
	A resolution recognizing the year 2023 as the Taylor Swift era in Pennsylvania.
	Will the House agree to the resolution?
	House resolutions are not legislation, and their consideration should not be a function of our government.
	I urge a no vote on this resolution and suggest we get back to actually governing.
	Thank you, Madam Speaker.
	For the members information, House resolutions are legislation.
	And apparently the haters are going to hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
	So I rise to wish Taylor Swift and all my birthday twins a very happy birthday, especially Representatives Madden and Major.
	I know I've had the best day with you, and I don't know how it gets better than this.
	Everyone standing around us singing happy birthday to you.
	This resolution is a love story, so baby, let's just say yes.
	The clerk will record the vote on the resolution.
	The yeas are 103, the nays are 100.
	The resolution is adopted.
	Fantastic.
	Phantaz is Pennsylvania.
	But we should mention that we spotted the Taylor Swift op.
	In 2009.
	Or before.
	The clips came out of this.
	She was being highlighted as a superstar back in... 2008 maybe. 2008.
	And we had some clips of her, you know, they're talking about her.
	She was just a kid.
	I think she was 17 at the time.
	Noodling.
	And she's the next big thing.
	And she was, she was talking to the band about doodling.
	And she was showing them how to put together songs.
	We have the clip somewhere.
	I don't know where they are.
	Her music works.
	Okay.
	So I know a little bit about how, how music and the business works.
	And her music is... but you can't sing but five of her songs.
	I'm not talking about the Swifties who are all in and completely mind-controlled.
	Because that's what it is.
	But these work at a psychological level, as you mentioned earlier, four chords.
	These are all riffs and songs that have been done before.
	It's hits.
	As long as you repeat a song over and over again, it becomes a hit.
	That's just how it works.
	As long as it's not off-key and junk, you can make anything a hit as long as you repeat it.
	And Spotify's, Algo's, everything, it's all, and she'll be unleashed.
	The op has not yet been unleashed, but it will be, and it will be for the 2024 election.
	I was kind of skeptical of that thesis at the start, but after listening to this guy discuss her music and some other things that are going on, including her being man of the year for Time Magazine, I used that term because that's what it was originally.
	You know, there's a lot of people out there saying that Taylor Swift is a man, which is a funny meme.
	Yeah, I don't buy it.
	No, I don't buy into it either.
	Please don't email me.
	Don't email me with your proof.
	But this has been going on for a long time and she has been And her concerts and the meet up with Jason Kelsey, or Travis Kelsey, sorry.
	From now on known as Jason Kelsey.
	But it could be Jason.
	I think Jason's his brother, so that might not work out.
	But this is nothing new.
	Artists have been abused for political reasons forever.
	Forever.
	You know, and Hillary, the last kind of attempt was Hillary with Beyonce, and it didn't really work.
	I don't think this will work either, to be honest about it.
	There's memes out there that are already contradicting the possibility.
	The fact that Kara Swisher was all in on Taylor Swift tells me it's an op.
	She's all jacked about Taylor Swift.
	She predicted Taylor Swift would be... What's there to be jacked about?
	She's a... She predicted that Taylor Swift would be Time Magazine's Person of the Year, which means she was in on it because... That's not a prediction you can make unless you know.
	That, let's face it, because Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn?
	Is it LinkedIn or is it Salesforce?
	No, Reid Hoffman, I think, is LinkedIn.
	Which I thought was sold to Microsoft.
	Anyway, he's a very rich, incredibly liberal dude.
	He owns Time Magazine.
	We know how these things go.
	You have a quick meeting.
	Who are we going to make Time Magazine Person of the Year?
	Well, let's call in to DC.
	Well, you'd also want to put some feelers.
	You want to put some test feelers out there.
	You have somebody, a stooge, a useful idiot, come out and say, yeah, I'm going to predict that Taylor Swift will be the first of the year.
	And if people don't throw stuff at you and call you an idiot, oh, that's not a bad idea.
	Then OK, we'll go ahead with it.
	It could have been just a test marketing.
	All right, let's go to some more PSYOP because there's a really fun one.
	That seems to be all we talk about.
	Yes, there's a fun one.
	And because we just talked about him, he had time to leave the shower and go to meet the press.
	Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.
	And, you know, Trump had a, oh man, Trump had a horrible, horrible speech.
	He said some horrible, horrible things.
	Actually, before I go to him, I'll play Let me play the, it's the same topic, CBS Face the Nation, Margaret Brennan with Chris Coons.
	Some of your fellow Democrats like Bob Menendez have said it's shameful and selling out migrants and asylum seekers.
	Why is he wrong?
	I understand Senator Mineta's passion on the part of making sure that our immigration system is safe, legal, and humane.
	But as I've often said in talking about the campaign for 24, President Biden needs to be compared not to the Almighty, not to a perfect alternative, but to the actual alternative.
	And you just played for Congressman Gonzalez the stunning, hateful, fascist rhetoric of former President Trump when he's talking about poisoning the blood of our nation.
	The former president would bring in place not these modest changes to asylum policy but radical and dramatic changes to immigration policy.
	We need to take seriously that there is a border security crisis and we need to take responsible steps that reflect our values.
	Okay, so this is the op.
	The op is poisoning the blood of Americans.
	Let's go back with the previous guest.
	I want to bring up something that we discussed with our last guest, which was a remark from Donald Trump yesterday.
	And I want to play it here, because I know you have endorsed Mr. Trump for president.
	They're poisoning the blood of our country.
	That's what they've done.
	They've poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world.
	They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.
	Do you endorse the sentiment that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country?
	I think immigrants are the lifeblood of our country, and it's important that we have it.
	The Republican from Texas.
	Immigrants.
	I've been a proponent of legal immigration, and what this open border crisis has done is put a- Wait, hold on, stop!
	There is a- we have a process called legal immigration.
	We'll get to that.
	So now all of a sudden he's a proponent like it's something new?
	Now, screw these guys.
	The point- we're still on the poisoning the blood.
	Okay, I'm sorry, but these little- Poisoning the blood.
	Yeah, I know.
	these little things.
	- Poisoning the blood. - And what this open border crisis has done, it's put legal immigrants to the back of the line.
	And it's encouraged illegal immigration.
	And it's created this rhetoric, and it's created this anger.
	And it's not just former President Trump.
	I mean, in my district, people are angry, Margaret.
	All throughout the country, people are angry and seeing all this chaos.
	It's why it's so important that the House, the Senate, and the President come together and find a real solution.
	A national security package that takes care of our allies, also protects us at home, not only from foreign threats but also internal threats because the anger is very real.
	I realize that, and we need to acknowledge it, but that phrasing, poisoning the blood, is reminiscent of language the White House says Hitler used, which is why I wanted to get you to specifically respond to that.
	Yes.
	So she only, what, she has a script from the White House?
	Is that what she just told us?
	Yes, yes.
	And this is the headline.
	The headline everywhere is Trump takes, Trump, Donald Trump paraphrases Adolf Hitler by telling Raleigh that migrants are poisoning the blood of our country.
	Phrase first appeared in Fuhrer book Mein Kampf.
	So I got my copy out.
	Good.
	Of Mein Kampf?
	We all have copies of Mein Kampf.
	Everybody should have a copy.
	It's a good read.
	It's like you gotta read the Unabomber Manifesto.
	You should read the Bible.
	You should read Mein Kampf.
	You should read a lot of books.
	And there is no phrase poisoning the blood.
	Of America or Germans.
	The word poisoning.
	Poisoning the blood is what you're.
	Poisoning the blood.
	Is you do a PDF search?
	That's what I would do.
	That's what I'm doing.
	I'm doing a search.
	I'm going to have it right now.
	Wholesale poisoning of the public mind.
	Poisoning of the public mind.
	Poisoning of our sexual blood.
	Poisoning of, I'm sorry, not sexual blood.
	What did he say here?
	Let me go back.
	Sexual life.
	Poisoning of the sound instincts?
	Poisoning of our sexual life?
	What the hell is he talking about?
	Well, let me go back, let me see what he was talking about.
	These are the doleful and tragic witnesses to the steadily increasing scourge that is poisoning our sexual life.
	Well, in Hitler's days, there was a lot of transgenderism, a lot of gay stuff going on.
	you know, there were a lot of gay stuff going on.
	That's what the cabaret is about.
	Yeah, the movie cabaret.
	Yes.
	So, their sufferings are the visible results of parental vice.
	So he's not saying that they're poisoning the blood.
	Poisoning of the sound instincts of our people.
	Poisoning the popular mind.
	So you use the word poisoning as though poison is a synonymous.
	Okay, I get it.
	So this is a lie.
	So they're full of shit is what you're telling us.
	This is a lie.
	It's a lie.
	It's a lie.
	And look, it wasn't that hard.
	For me to bring up the PDF and do a little search.
	Wasn't hard.
	Here's a good morning, America.
	Overnight, former President Donald Trump facing swift backlash for his attacks on immigrants.
	Former President Donald Trump campaigning in New Hampshire, sounding as confident as ever.
	Whatever happened to the bounce?
	You know, with Nikki, they talk about the surge.
	Mocking his GOP primary opponents, who he called backstabbing establishment losers, for trailing in the polls.
	His speech peppered with personal insults.
	At one point, calling New Hampshire's popular Republican governor a, quote, spoiled brat.
	Governor Kristen Nunez this week endorsing Nikki Haley, saying she can not only win his state, but deliver a Republican landslide.
	Beyond his rivals, Trump also upped his attacks on immigrants with highly offensive white nationalist rhetoric, evoking similar language to Nazi propaganda about the purity of this country's, quote, blood.
	We've gotten everybody first except America.
	Trump's crowd full of fervent fans.
	Does President Trump have your vote?
	Yes.
	Did you consider any of the other candidates?
	No.
	Also in the state this weekend, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who brushed off any idea of joining a Trump ticket.
	You know, I'd rather be governor than vice president, no question.
	Adding he thinks Trump will try to delegitimize any results in early states if he does not win.
	If Trump loses, he will say it's stolen no matter what.
	Okay, all right.
	So there it is.
	It's Nazism.
	And now everyone who's a Trump fan, you can't be a supporter.
	You're a fan.
	You're a fan.
	You're a Nazi.
	But now we'll play the bit with Lindy Hop Greyhab, who had a reasonably appropriate response.
	Before I let you go, I do want to get your reaction to something that former President Trump said overnight.
	He was in New Hampshire.
	He was talking about the need to keep immigrants out of this country.
	Here's what he said.
	I'll get your response.
	They're poisoning the blood of our country.
	That's what they've done.
	They poison mental institutions.
	Now what do you think he means?
	Let's just stop for a second.
	Because he says that, you have to listen to the whole Trump thing.
	He says they're poisoning the blood of our country.
	They're poisoning mental institutions.
	What exactly is he really talking about?
	Immigrants here?
	What does he mean?
	Well I think, and I think for one thing he's Yes.
	He does that.
	He rambles.
	What mental institutions?
	What's he talking about?
	I think he's talking about immigrants coming in and kind of upsetting the mechanism of state.
	I think he says overloading is what I think he means.
	Overloading.
	Yeah, overloading.
	I think that would be overloading.
	Overloading.
	But, you know, because the word is poisoning, the blood, and oh, they're not pure Aryan race.
	No, the word poisoning and the word blood, obviously Nazi.
	Aryan race, white nationalists.
	To keep immigrants out of this country.
	Here's what he said, I'll get your response.
	They're poisoning the blood of our country.
	That's what they've done.
	They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world.
	They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.
	The Biden campaign has accused former President Trump of, quote, parroting Adolf Hitler.
	Interesting.
	Instead of the White House, she says the Biden campaign.
	So at least she's a little more honest about it, but it's coming from the White House.
	What is your reaction?
	Are the President's comments representative of how you and other Republicans feel?
	76% of the American people, not Donald Trump, believe the border is broken.
	They're worried about fentanyl coming over and killing their kids.
	But what about his language, Senator?
	Just that language, that poisoning the blood.
	I'm worried about an outcome.
	He is right.
	He had the border secured, the lowest in 40 years in December of 2020.
	To the Biden administration, you're talking about Donald Trump's language as you sit on the sidelines and allow the country to be invaded.
	172 people on the terrorist watch list have come on your watch.
	Fentanyl is killing more Americans than any time in history.
	Senator, just on the language, just on the language.
	Just get to the Nazi part.
	So I want to get your response.
	You have endorsed former President Trump.
	Hold on, stop.
	What show is this and who is that woman?
	This is Kristen Welker.
	This is the new... Oh, Welker.
	She's terrible.
	It's the new face of the press nation.
	She doesn't listen.
	I never thought... She had her own little show on NBC.
	They all have these test shows.
	People don't know it.
	NBC has like 10 new shows.
	They're all exactly the same with the same stories, but they're all done by different people.
	Tom Yamas has one.
	Kristen Welkum had one.
	She happens to be black.
	She's more brown.
	She's multi-culti looking.
	Yeah.
	But she was okay reading, you know, teleprompter.
	She was fine.
	But this is an example of someone who doesn't listen.
	No, her job is to press this sentence.
	That's why you hear her going... She's no good.
	I didn't think she was going to be good when she took this job.
	He just wants, specifically, poisoning the blood.
	Sir, is that not in Mein Kampf?
	Is that not Nazi talk right there?
	Is he not the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler himself, sir?
	S-s-s-s-senator?
	Invaded, 172 people on the terrorist watch lift have come on your watch.
	Fentanyl is killing more.
	You hear a s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s- ...and allowed the country to be invaded.
	172 people on the terrorist watch list have come on your watch.
	Fentanyl's killing more Americans than any time in history.
	Senator, just on the language, just on the language, though, I want to get your response.
	You have endorsed former President Trump.
	Are you comfortable... Do you endorse a Nazi?
	...with him using words like that.
	Hitler!
	Man, this is so old.
	This is... Hello, 2015!
	We're talking about language?
	I could care less what language people use as long as we get it right.
	I believe in legal immigration.
	I have no animosity toward people trying to come to our country.
	I have animosity against terrorists and against drug dealers, but I understand why people want to come to America.
	But we have chaos and we need to create order.
	If you think you're going to win the debate on illegal immigration by picking a line out of the Trump speech, most Americans understand the game has to change, that we're under threat, that we're going to get attacked, that our border has completely been obliterated.
	So if you're talking about the language Trump uses rather than trying to fix it, that's a losing strategy for the Biden administration.
	Now, I have the.
	Wow.
	Hey, he's good.
	Let's face it, as much as we'd like to mock him, he's an old pro that is not going to be bullied by Kristen Welker who's an idiot.
	No, it's time for a shower.
	Now, I have a minute of the Trump speech and I have an issue with his language because we know what the problem is.
	The problem is This administration has told the Department of Homeland Security, catch him or release, let him go.
	It's policy.
	It is not, I repeat, it is not the wall.
	It is, it doesn't matter how big the wall is or how high the fence is, if people can come in and they have either an app that says you're good to go, which is how they're coming in through airports, Yep.
	There's no way to put an entire big beautiful wall that keeps everybody out.
	Once you get in, if there's no repercussion, people will keep coming.
	I got a shot.
	And of course our own people who now run the International Office of Immigration at the United Nations are You know, giving the prepaid debit cards, you got the buses.
	You just gotta cross the Rio Grande that last bit, you'll get wet, don't worry about it.
	And you can see it, people are showing up, they've got clean clothes, everything's good to go.
	Nice backpack.
	Backpack, you just gotta get in.
	And once you're in, it's a policy issue.
	You're in, you're in!
	It's about parole.
	It's like the disco.
	But Trump, see this is my issue with Trump.
	I don't understand why he doesn't call out what it is.
	This actually, this speech, because that's the gross offense here.
	He's treating people like they're morons.
	We've got a lot of work to do.
	You know, when they let, I think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country when they do that.
	We've got a lot of work to do.
	They're poisoning the blood of our country.
	That's what they've done.
	They've poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world.
	They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.
	They're pouring into our country.
	Nobody's even looking at them.
	They just come in.
	The crime is going to be tremendous.
	The terrorism is going to be... Terrorism is going to be... And we built a tremendous piece of the wall, and then we're going to build more.
	And the election was rigged, and we didn't do it, but I figured they'd just throw it up.
	Would've taken three weeks.
	It was all built.
	It was all ready to be just hoisted up.
	The exact wall that the Border Patrol, who are incredible, Brandon, Judd, and all of the people at Border Patrol, that's exactly what they designed.
	They had the anti-climb bars.
	They had everything.
	And you know what they did?
	They didn't want it to go up.
	They sold it for 5 cents on the dollar.
	Can you believe it?
	All of that stuff.
	It's very sad.
	It's just irrelevant.
	That's not the problem.
	People know they can come because you're good to go.
	You're not going to get in trouble.
	It's not the wall.
	I'm a little sick of that.
	He needs to change that message.
	Come on, there are smarter people in America.
	Well, at least he dropped a Mexico is going to pay for it.
	Yeah, that was also dumb.
	That was a loser.
	Meanwhile, something we missed in the National Defense Authorization Act.
	I'm sure there's more than something.
	Oh, it's all coming out now.
	We missed a big one.
	Congress approving a bill preventing any U.S.
	president from withdrawing from NATO without approval from the Senate or an act of Congress.
	Measures included in the recently passed National Defense Authorization Act.
	Democratic Senator Tim Kaine and Republican Senator Marco Rubio spearheaded that bill, which marks Congress's commitment to the NATO alliance.
	Big miss.
	Okay, thanks Rubio.
	Wow, you know what that tells me?
	Trump's going to be our next president.
	Well, pretty sure part of the overall, you know, they're, they're lining stuff up.
	Yep.
	That's the word I want.
	Okay.
	He's going to be president.
	Uh, we're going to, you know, we're going to see.
	Oh, by the way, I got a note from one of our, uh, producers who sent a dollar bill with it.
	Oh, Taking part in my game, which is who's picked the vice president, and I thought he had a good one.
	Ben Carson.
	No.
	No.
	I like the idea of Ben Carson.
	I'm staying with the... He was loyal to Trump.
	He never quit.
	He didn't backstab him.
	He didn't write a book.
	He's smart and he was once a presidential candidate himself.
	I like Ben Carson as a vice VP.
	He's not even on the list!
	Yet.
	I'm sticking with Elyse.
	I think she's high up.
	Elyse?
	Yeah.
	The New York... Your stepdaughter?
	No, the only way I can remember her name.
	From New York, no, the one who jacked up the... Oh, it's the panic.
	Yeah, the one who jacked up the university presidents.
	Yeah, she's still doing good work.
	She's in play, she's in play.
	There's another thing that's in play.
	Yeah, she is, kinda.
	Now, C-SPAN, we have...
	One of our producers, he loyally sends in every single between shows, he sends in C-span callers.
	Which used to be my beat, I might add.
	Well, you know, you don't treat people with kindness.
	And, you know, you block them.
	And they go away.
	So they come to me.
	Of course, they also think I'm your assistant, your intern, you know.
	Tell John this!
	This is a new conspiracy launched from the Democrat line.
	I love this conspiracy.
	Next up, let's hear from Kathy in Satellite Beach, Florida, on our Democratic line.
	Yes, I have a question about the binder of raw Russian data that's been missing since Trump left office.
	It's about 10 inches thick, full of all the raw data.
	that America has collected on sources and methods and everything.
	And the reason I bring it up is because I've always wondered why Ivana Trump's casket had pin pallbearers when Princess Diana's lead-lined casket Only had six.
	I mean that casket had to have been hugely heavy and with all the missing boxes of secret documents that everybody keeps talking about, I think that they need to go to the golf course where Trump had her buried and just take a look-see.
	Just out of curiosity, I want to know where that binder of raw Russian, excuse me, information went.
	Okay, Alton is- I love it!
	Dig her up!
	Dig her up!
	This is the best.
	Trump buried this- They're gonna do it too eventually, you watch.
	Oh, it's coming.
	Trump, this is it.
	Trump buried the Russian documents that show all the collusion.
	Buried it with Ivanka.
	Dig her up.
	Meanwhile, the real news is this.
	Former top FBI counterintelligence official faces five years in prison after pleading guilty to working with a Russian oligarch he once investigated.
	Charles McConigle admitted he accepted more than $17,000 from Oleg Diproska.
	McConigle led the FBI's counterintelligence division between 2016 and 2018.
	2016 and 2018.
	$17,000?
	Oh, $17,000.
	Are you kidding me?
	That's nothing.
	I know, but he... From an oligarch?
	I know, but you know... But no, this guy was a part of Operation Crossfire.
	This guy was a part of it.
	The guys who were accusing Trump of being in collusion... Yeah, he was in collusion.
	This guy was completely in collusion.
	Completely.
	Some people think he's basically just a Russian spy and that 17,000 is a bullshit number anyway.
	All that's in there so that we don't talk about it.
	Go away, go away news.
	Hey, dig up, dig her up!
	You watch, dig her up.
	It's gonna be a chant.
	Dig her up!
	Yeah.
	Alright, NPR is very upset.
	I love this lady.
	I love this lady.
	She's very upset about how the media is covering Trump.
	They're not doing it right, you're doing it all wrong.
	This has been a theme amongst journalists that we're not doing it, we're doing it all wrong, we're gonna help him win again.
	I'm Aisha Roscoe and this is a Sunday Story.
	In the fourth and final Republican debate on December 6th, Governor Chris Christie addressed the elephant in the room.
	Him!
	He warned Americans of what may come if Donald Trump gets re-elected president.
	Let me make it clear.
	His conduct is unacceptable.
	He's unfit.
	And be careful of what you're going to get.
	If you ever got another Donald Trump term, he's letting you know, I am your retribution.
	Thank you.
	He will only be, Elizabeth, he will only be his own retribution.
	He doesn't care for the American people.
	It's Donald Trump first.
	How to cover Trump is a... I think you're right.
	I think that was a dig by saying the elephant in the room for Chris Christie.
	I think that was one of those intellectual jokes.
	Yeah, one of those little journalistic puns, those little jokes that they snip in now and again.
	That's fat shame!
	Retribution.
	He doesn't care for the American people.
	It's Donald Trump's fault.
	And by the way, hold on.
	What was the elephant?
	Was there no elephant in the room?
	The Trump wasn't there.
	That was the elephant in the room.
	Well, that's an elephant not in the room.
	How to cover Trump is a question that's haunted the media since Trump's surprise win in 2016.
	Haunted the media?
	Oh, the media is haunted.
	We're journalists.
	We're trained at J-School.
	We're haunted.
	We don't know how to do it.
	A 2018 study showed that... Hold on a second.
	I need to do this.
	No, I love it.
	I love it.
	But it just seems to me that this is like a rebuke of journalism.
	Why should they be haunted about anything?
	They're reporters.
	They're supposed to report the news, not be in the news.
	They're not supposed to be the news.
	They shouldn't be haunted by the results of their reporting.
	Perhaps you should take another J-School course and see what they're teaching these journalists.
	I'll bet you they're teaching something I'm unfamiliar with.
	How to cover Trump is a question that's haunted the media since Trump's surprise win in 2016.
	Surprise win?
	A 2018 study showed that Trump received around $2 billion in free media and got substantially more coverage than his opponents aiding his campaign.
	Now Trump is dominating headlines again as he faces federal indictments and civil lawsuits while campaigning at the same time.
	This is, by the way, this is a great edit.
	I did not do this, but they pan left and right with all of his crazy talk.
	I'm making every executive branch employee fireable by the president!
	As I said, I will keep men out of women's sports and I will sign a law prohibiting child Sexual mutilation.
	We will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.
	We'll carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.
	And my other job is host of Weekend Edition Sunday.
	I did an interview recently that really made me think about Trump and how we cover him as journalist.
	I wanted to share- As journalist.
	You're missing an S, darling.
	Journalist.
	I wanted to share it with you.
	I spoke with two people who believe the media is failing in the way it's reporting on Trump and warn these failures put our democracy at risk.
	Our democracy got destroyed with the Patriot Act, lady.
	Here we go.
	This was a 25-minute program.
	I just pulled two other clips.
	Here's a douche who writes for The Atlantic, and this is his view of what we should do.
	Yeah, I've got a pretty pessimistic outlook on this because I think that what's happening with Trump is that a lot of the things that he's doing, both in terms of what he's posting on Truth Social, his social media network, and what he's saying at rallies, is not cutting through to the ordinary voter.
	And that's important because some of the stuff he's saying is the most extreme rhetoric of any presidential candidate in the last four, five, six decades.
	So I'll give you an example of this.
	There was a rally in October where Trump floated the idea of shooting shoplifters on sight.
	So anyone who commits a petty crime gets killed.
	It's an extradition killing that the leading contender for the Republican nomination floated.
	And right after that, he floated the idea of joking about Paul Pelosi being nearly beaten to death with a hammer.
	And there was no coverage of this for three days in the New York Times, at which point it appeared on page 14.
	So here he is complaining about the broken elite messaging system, the New York Times.
	And New York Times is doing it wrong.
	And I think what the press is doing is it's thinking, people know Trump says crazy stuff lots of the time, and that's fine, but it's still very important that they see it.
	Because, you know, there's another bit of rhetoric he recently posted on Truth Social, where he effectively implied that the former top general of the United States, Mark Milley, deserved to be executed.
	And, you know, that is one of the most unbelievable things that a presidential candidate could say, one of the most extreme things.
	It was not covered in most of the press.
	And I think that is a real failing where we're not understanding the scale of the threat that Trump poses because it's been baked in as sort of what I call the banality of crazy, that it's so routine that it's not generating headlines.
	This guy is giving them the exact wrong advice.
	I agree.
	He's saying the opposite of what should be done.
	So now he wants to go back to just giving Trump whatever crazy thing Trump says.
	Let's push it.
	This is so dumb.
	Okay, then we have a Douchette from The Guardian.
	So I think that newsroom leaders need to be, and maybe they're doing this, you know, maybe some... Newsroom leaders?
	Leaders?
	Is that called the editor?
	Is that called the editor?
	I guess.
	I think that newsroom leaders need to be, and maybe they're doing this, you know, maybe some of them are doing it and maybe they're doing it a little, but I think they need to get together with their politics staffs and their staffs in general and talk about...
	What I wrote my column about, the public is not getting the importance of this election.
	They're not getting what the stakes and the consequences are.
	They don't get it.
	You're stupid.
	You don't get it, people.
	You don't understand.
	You don't get it.
	You're not listening to us.
	We've got to ratchet it up.
	You don't get it.
	You don't get it.
	How can we go about changing that?
	How can we get across the extreme nature of this?
	By just reporting!
	And, you know, it has to do with emphasis.
	It has to do with where you put stories, what kind of articles you do, what the headlines are.
	But we're still sort of stuck in an old way of covering both sides, trying very hard to make sure that no one ever says that we're partisan.
	Time to be partisan!
	It calls for a rethinking in newsrooms of how to communicate to our readers and viewers.
	I'd like to comment on this.
	Yes, please.
	Now, historically, reporting was always partisan.
	Yes!
	That's why you had, like, a newspaper in Santa Rosa, The Press Democrat.
	The Oakland Tribune used to be a Republican newspaper.
	There's a one up in New Hampshire that's notoriously a Republican or was a notoriously Republican newsletter or newspaper.
	I'm sorry, newsletter.
	Newspaper.
	And these newspapers were very partisan and they took a perspective and a point of view.
	And that's why journalism schools appeared, because it was getting to the point where somebody decided that's not a good thing.
	So they went to, you know, teaching people how to do that.
	It has to have three people quoted.
	You gotta have both sides of the story.
	You gotta do this, you gotta do that.
	And it just naturally gravitates because I can...
	find mastodon tweets or toots whatever they're called of all kinds of journalists that have all scampered away from twitter and they've gone to their own little hovels and they're all talking about we can't let trump win we have to do this we have to do that and you if you remember that journos journos uh little room or i don't know It gravitates right back toward it.
	And there is nobody that's on the Republican side except for Fox News.
	And they're not even good Republicans, they're phonies.
	where the Democrat journalists would all get together and grouse.
	That was supposed to be eliminated.
	It gravitates right back toward it.
	And there is nobody that's on the Republican side except for Fox News.
	And they're not even good Republicans.
	They're run by Democrats.
	Yeah.
	But the whole system's broken.
	It doesn't work anymore.
	People like this.
	They want TikTok.
	They want, you know, quick hits.
	They want to see this.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	You know, we're all highly malleable.
	Give me some dopamine.
	Give me something.
	I want to own the libs.
	I'm going to post some memes.
	I know.
	I see it.
	This is what's happening.
	This is what's happening.
	People are out of control.
	By the way, there's so much talk about Trump, you know, if he is re-elected, oh my goodness.
	I mean, that will be the end of democracy.
	The end.
	End of the world as we know it.
	No, democracy.
	Where democracy's done.
	Of course, we have a republic, and we have a very interesting system.
	Yes, it's a republic, let's get that straight.
	We have a very interesting system when it comes to the presidential election, which is the electoral college.
	And we've discussed this many times on the show.
	I'll play this clip of Bill and Hillary Clinton, and then we should probably just run through one more time what the Electoral College is for, why it was put in place, and why it is important.
	But first, let's listen to those bastions of democracy, Bill and Hillary Clinton.
	You know what's funny?
	I saw them on stage together.
	This is at a Bloomberg conference about a month and a half ago.
	And it took me, it took me like 20 minutes before I remembered, oh yeah, they're married.
	It was just like two separate people.
	I don't even connect them as a couple anymore.
	It's very weird.
	It starts off with Bill.
	Do you think direct election of the president, popular vote, would be preferable to the electoral college method?
	We adopted the electoral college when we were 13 states, but it also helped to load up the electoral votes of the southern states that had slaves.
	Now we know that the effect of the Electoral College is to give about, oh, 36 extra votes to the most culturally conservative and farthest right American states.
	And I have no objection to them voting.
	I want them all to vote.
	I would not, unlike some of them, I'd never try to make it harder for them to vote.
	I'd make it easier for them to vote.
	I want the votes counted.
	And I want them all to count.
	But I just don't think you can justify that today.
	I assume you prefer direct election as well.
	Oh, I definitely prefer direct election.
	So, they're anti-constitutionalists?
	Yeah.
	And I think we should, because they did a very poor job.
	They said, oh, it's because, you know, the Republicans or, you know, the conservative states, of course, you know, that's switched.
	But no, it's the states in the South, those racists, they had slaves and they were going to win because they counted the slaves, that's why it was the Electoral College.
	Is that the truth, our constitutional expert John C. Dvorak?
	I mean, you can make that, I think that argument can be made, but I don't think that's the real argument that the reason the Electoral College was put together.
	It was to prevent the big states, the overpopulated states, the New Yorks.
	And California.
	Which nobody liked at the time, and the Phillies.
	New Yorkers were hated because they were Dutch, I think, is the reason.
	You gotta hate those guys.
	And so they didn't run roughshod over the little states like Rhode Island and Delaware and Vermont and the rest of them.
	So they tried to create an even footing because the big states were corrupt.
	They had the corrupt policies, they had corrupt politicians, and the idea was, you know, once in a while you're going to get a situation where the majority of people are going to vote for the corrupt guy, and this will keep that person from getting in office.
	Hillary being the best example of that recently.
	Yes, and exactly.
	It was an escape hatch in case some nutjob was about to come to power.
	Yeah, I think that rationale is more accurate than the other one.
	And the other thing is, and I've written this up, and you can go to Dvorak.substack.com and read my article about this.
	I've said that over time, The Electoral College has to go because it does not fairly distribute advertising dollars throughout the country during presidential elections.
	The only states that get the advertising dollars are the swing states that are going to determine who wins in the Electoral College.
	And this is unfair to the media outlets in California and places like New York that don't get any money because they're going to vote Democrat.
	So why are we going to give them any money to do advertising?
	In fact, when you're out here, during the presidential campaigning, you see no ads.
	There's not even an event.
	And so because of that, I think that the media will continue to promote the idea of abolishing it.
	Yes.
	But that's a completely, that's an outlier position that I've taken and I still believe it to be.
	No, I'm with you.
	I like that explanation.
	That's why the media keeps promoting it.
	Because otherwise why would they care?
	You had a clip this past Veterans Day, actually it was a twofer clip.
	It was President Biden speaking on Veterans Day.
	Do you remember these clips?
	If I hear him, I probably would.
	You'll remember this one, this 44 second clip, you'll remember it.
	The Biden administration on Friday announcing three steps to improve the life of America's veterans ahead of Saturday's Veterans Day.
	First, it's expanding no-cost health care to all living World War II veterans.
	Eligible vets will be able to claim those benefits starting this month.
	This includes nursing home care.
	Some veterans who suffer from Parkinson's disease will also be eligible for free health care.
	So this report, and the president did say that, he said we will have free care for World War II veterans.
	There's only about 250,000 of them left.
	Amazing it's that many.
	And we got a boots on the ground report from one of our producers.
	Who says a few weeks ago my family was excited to hear on your show that President Biden had announced free nursing home care for all World War II veterans.
	My wife's 96-year-old grandfather is a World War II veteran who landed in Nagasaki about two weeks after the bomb dropped.
	He is currently in a facility that's not so great and we were excited the prospect of him moving into better care despite his limited funds.
	After he was put on a wait list for the local five-star VA facility, I decided to do more research.
	That's when I found out it's all a lie.
	The VA secretly updated the announcement to say that only certain World War II veterans were eligible.
	My wife's grandfather is not one of them.
	So they indeed, they updated this to say, update to the release, nursing home care is free for nearly all World War II veterans who were eligible for nursing home services at VA, including, one, anyone in need of such care for a service-connected disability, and two, anyone in need of such care who also has a service-connected disability rated at 70% or more.
	That is such... I mean, that's low.
	Even for Biden, that's low.
	I mean, come on.
	It's a quarter of a million dudes.
	And you're going to do that?
	I thought that was just... That's disgusting.
	It broke my heart.
	It broke my heart.
	Disgusting.
	How long is it going to be?
	A year?
	Two years?
	Really?
	How long is it going to last?
	So I just... That's the sort of thing that we're getting from these guys, and that's why I brought it, bitched and moaned earlier about the fact that we're pumping more oil than ever before and making it seem that, oh no, they were very environmentally conscious.
	Oh yeah, the COP 28, blah, blah, blah.
	And then Trump, who doesn't, blah blah blah.
	And so Trump, you know, is, well I'm gonna drill, drill, drill.
	That's what we're doing, but nobody, Democrats are just terrible people.
	It's a terrible team.
	They may be okay people, they're just in a bad environment.
	You gotta love them.
	You can't just, dig her up!
	That's all I got to say.
	Tinker up.
	That's what I mean.
	That's a good example.
	Before we take the break, a fun little moment happened on The View.
	It's always funny when these things take place.
	Of course, they are running interference for President Biden.
	You know, he's just a good dad.
	He just has a crappy son.
	Come on.
	Stop already.
	And Anna Navarro, well, she drops a canard of epic proportion.
	Hunter Biden, yes, I think he's engaged in corruption.
	I do think that the charges against him by the Department of Justice are very serious.
	I have not seen one shred of evidence that it's tied to Joe Biden.
	That's what it comes down to to me.
	And by the way, someone who's no Joe Biden fan, Steve Doocy on Fox News has been hammering James Comey.
	Give me one thing, one piece of evidence, otherwise it's a waste of taxpayer dollars.
	Joe Biden's crime is being Hunter Biden's father.
	And being Hunter Biden's very loving father, very good father, very supportive father.
	A good father.
	Did Hunter Biden influence Petal on his last name?
	Yes, he did.
	So did half of Washington.
	People sitting at this table did it.
	Did Hunter Biden Did Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes?
	Yes, he did.
	Actually, who at this table peddled on their last name?
	I didn't.
	I'm not talking about currently.
	We just wanted to clear our names.
	I was like, oh my God, do I have a claim to fame that I'm not using?
	Sorry, continue, Anna.
	Can I go back to my point, please?
	Yes, yes.
	Not that we've cleared it up.
	Yeah, it took a while.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Did he use his last name?
	Did he monetize on Joe Biden's last name?
	Yes, he did.
	That's not a crime.
	Did Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes?
	Yes, he did.
	He has admitted it.
	He paid it back.
	He paid it back with $600,000 penalty.
	I just love it when the truth comes out.
	It always wants to come out.
	Influence peddlers, those ladies!
	Yeah.
	Big use of the overtime horn or whatever that is.
	It's the Ooga horn.
	Game over to hockey game.
	I love it.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage, saying good morning to you, the man who put two C's in the obesogenic environment.
	Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora!
	In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning to the Trolls in the Troll Room.
	Trolls, hands out, let me count some of them.
	Trolls, look at you go, look at you go.
	They're so tiny, it's hard to count them all.
	I count 2,037 Trolls today in the Troll Room.
	How is that?
	Is that, that's okay.
	400 low.
	Yeah, you say that, but this, just get ready to, it's the new normal.
	Well, I think it's the time that we do the count.
	I think people do slowly move away.
	They move away onto what?
	Bigger and better things?
	To maybe eat breakfast?
	No, please.
	Take a drive, go to the store, do some shopping.
	It's Christmas shopping season, everyone's out shopping.
	The traffic is jammed up, people are driving around like maniacs.
	They're shopping, they're shopping, shopping, shopping.
	You'd think the economy is great, there's nothing wrong, there's nothing going on, but people must be loading up their credit cards.
	How can it be anything else?
	Who has money?
	The prices are too high.
	The rent's too high.
	It's impossible.
	It's impossible.
	Anyway, we do love our trolls.
	This is a great opportunity for you to let it all hang out.
	Just join us live if you can on show days, Thursdays and Sundays.
	We do it live.
	We start at 1 p.m.
	Central Time.
	That's 2 Eastern.
	And you can go to trollroom.io.
	It's just a simple old chat room.
	It's an IRC-based chat room.
	You can stay logged in all the time.
	A lot of people do that because, of course, no agenda stream rolls out and people are responding to that.
	So we have lots of live shows.
	Darren O'Neal does the show.
	Did you listen to Darren's show this morning?
	No, I missed it today.
	How was it?
	Was it terrible as usual?
	Yeah, it was just so bad.
	He didn't play any Taylor Swift.
	He's got all these drops of you saying, Darren O'Neal sucks.
	He's got all that stuff.
	He's using those?
	Oh yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Darren O'Neal is the best.
	Oh, he did play Taylor Swift, apparently.
	Ah, he stinks.
	So yeah, go to trollroom.io or noagendastream.com or if you're using one of those swanky modern podcast apps, it'll let you know when we go live.
	The new podcast apps are great.
	First of all, if, you know, if you get thrown off, if any of your favorite podcasts get thrown off of one of the legacy apps, I'm talking Apple.
	Which will happen.
	You know that Spotify kicks three, four, five shows a day off of Spotify?
	Really?
	Why?
	What's their rationale for this?
	Dangerous speech?
	I don't know.
	They don't really give reasons.
	There's a whole system.
	Most podcast hosting companies, you can automatically, when you post, even when you start your account, it'll set you up on Spotify.
	They have an agreement.
	Excuse me.
	When Spotify kicks someone off, then they automatically ping the podcast hosting company and say, we kicked these guys off.
	But they don't give a reason.
	They just tell them so that when people call up the hosting company and say, hey, I'm not on Spotify, that they can say, yeah, they kicked you off and you have to take it up with them.
	It's horrible, really.
	It's horrible.
	So that happens.
	I'll tell you something that's not horrible.
	The new No Agenda artwork site is unbelievable.
	Is it up?
	Yep.
	You're a little early.
	I'm not quite done with the promotion yet.
	No, sorry.
	I'm just... You're excited.
	I understand.
	I'm jacked up.
	I understand.
	Me too.
	So besides the fact that when we post the show, any show, You'll be notified within 90 seconds the show is good to go.
	You know, on some of these legacy apps, it takes hours, hours before you find out, before they're updated.
	Now, one other thing I want to mention, Value for Value, which we're going to talk about in a minute, has this concept that we've been running for 16 years, has... What, huh?
	What?
	What?
	What do you mean, what, huh?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I was looking at a piece and I looked at the artist.
	Oh, you're not even listening to me.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I'm listening.
	You don't have to listen.
	I'm sorry that I'm so close to the mic that I exhaled and it caught your attention.
	I'll wake you up.
	Value for Value has taken off so big that now people are running away from Spotify and they're putting their music up On the podcast apps that are value for value, the modern podcast apps.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	Yes.
	Yes, because it's no different from a podcast.
	An album, you've got a feed, you put in instead of episodes, it's tracks.
	And because we have this live system that we've been pioneering, we've been pioneering for a long time, but now it works in all the modern apps.
	December 20th, December 21st, live from Minneapolis, from First Avenue, that's Prince's old venue.
	Ainsley Costello and Just Loud are going to do a live concert, value for value, video and audio, modernpodcastapps.com or I think ainsleycostello.com, you can learn more about it.
	I mean, it's going to be fantastic because it's completely independent of all these stupid legacy systems.
	Well, that's a plus.
	Yeah!
	Well, it is totally the feature.
	So now we're talking about value for value.
	Yes, indeed.
	Time, talent, treasure.
	You can contribute to this show in many ways.
	You heard of Boots on the Ground Report.
	That is a great way to support us.
	The 3x3.
	Many clips are sent to us by the Clip Custodian, the Clip Collector.
	Dave Ackerman sends me a daily news briefing almost.
	We've got Sarah in the UK who sends me compendiums.
	This is all very helpful.
	And please, whenever you think, eh, they probably already know this.
	No!
	No, we probably don't.
	I'd rather delete 15 emails that are doubles instead of missing something.
	So, you know, please continue to reach out to us.
	People do websites.
	Let's talk about it right now.
	Our artists have been creating artwork, a new one for every single show, for 12, 13 years.
	I can't remember how long it's been going on.
	It's been going on for a long time.
	And we love Using fresh artwork.
	It gives people something to talk about.
	It looks great on social media.
	It looks great just everywhere.
	It's, you know, in your podcast app, like, oh, what is that?
	Oh, this is different.
	Oh, it's no agenda, of course.
	So we want to thank Nestworks for the artwork for episode 1616.
	We titled that one, Buying Quiet.
	And this was really the best one that there was, I think.
	We looked at a couple of pieces.
	This is the AI winter is coming.
	As I proclaimed, the AI winter is on the way.
	We had other pieces.
	I'm going now to noagendaartgenerator.com.
	This is, it's taking a long time to load, John.
	This is the brand new, revamped, after it was down, crashed, and destroyed for several weeks.
	It's still not loading for me.
	Well, that's because I'm probably my one... You can have one other user as me.
	One person at a time?
	Is that the...
	One person at a time.
	Well, he says, no, it's still working out some bugs.
	And then he's got some, it's not finished, but it's just a new service.
	Yeah.
	Sir Paul Couture, who has been maintaining this thing for over a decade.
	Um, you know, we'd had some horrible hardware crash.
	What I'm thinking right now is that probably everyone went to know gender heart generator.
	Cause I said it.
	Cause you mentioned it like it got flooded.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, it makes sense.
	So it's still not loading for me.
	So I can't really talk about any of the artwork after you have to walk me through it was there until it loads for me.
	Well, he doesn't have those pieces.
	Shoot.
	It's I got a gateway timeout.
	Oh, crap.
	Well, he doesn't have those pieces up from last show.
	Well, then we can just say everything sucked but this one from Nessworks.
	No, there were some good pieces.
	I thought all the pieces were usable, but Nessworks I thought was the best because it just had everything we wanted.
	And it was AI, obviously.
	No, it was totally AI.
	Everything.
	We were kind of resigned, even though I know you were going to reject all AI forever!
	It's not possible.
	It's not possible.
	No, that's the point.
	It's not possible.
	It's become a pretty good tool.
	And it's futility.
	It's futile.
	It's become a pretty good tool for artists who know how to use it.
	And that's really... I agree.
	At the end of the day, and I said it on purpose, AI will only benefit the No Agenda show.
	It will do nothing for humanity.
	It'll do nothing for business.
	It'll do nothing for your spam.
	It'll only benefit the No Agenda artists.
	That's the whole point and I'm happy that there's a hundred billion dollar industry just working for us.
	Good to know.
	So I'm still trying.
	I ended up with a gateway timeout while looking at these artworks.
	We crashed it.
	Well, the trolls are saying, oh, oops.
	Yeah, I'm guilty of that.
	Yeah, we crashed it.
	We crashed it.
	It was my fault for saying anything.
	I wasn't thinking clearly.
	Yeah, I know what probably happened because he's still copying over like 300 gigabytes of artwork.
	And that's probably taxing the system.
	So while we keep reloading that, trolls, please stop.
	Why don't we go to the final T of the trifecta, which is treasure, and thank our executive and associate executive producers.
	Short list today, but we are very happy to acknowledge our first executive producer, Mike Rauch.
	Mike Rauch!
	I said it!
	Now, Mike Rauch, by the way, he's getting a PhD as late, but this was long in coming.
	I just love that his name is Mike Roch.
	I mean, really?
	On the bank check, his name is Mike Roch.
	Wow.
	So we're looking at, Jay and I are looking, and I said, holy mackerel.
	I said, his parents must have been a couple of characters.
	It's funny.
	Hey, I know.
	My last name is Roch.
	Let's call him Mike.
	Dr. Sir Mike Roach.
	You can just imagine what the Hunch family thinks.
	Powder Springs, Georgia.
	And he comes in with two checks.
	One boobs, 800.85, and then a 211.
	And he says, hey N.A., folder here.
	Which means he goes back to daily source code days.
	Thank you, thank you brother.
	Don't castigate me for operating within the outlined late rules.
	211 goes towards double Richards on the big boobs of 800.85.
	Now to be known as double Dr. Sir Mike Roach.
	Baron Bull of the lifestyle.
	MD, medical doctorate.
	MD, media deconstruction.
	Ha ha ha.
	So he might actually be a doctor.
	Could be.
	That's even funnier.
	Mike Roach, OBGNY.
	Nice.
	Requesting Eiffel Towers with high fives and twerking Russians for backroom festivities of the roundtable.
	You got it.
	I'm guessing he's a urologist with that name.
	We love guys like that.
	Mike, you got it.
	You shall be the Baron Bull of the lifestyle.
	There's a lot of guys, and I would do this.
	You take the No Agenda Diploma, which looks exactly like a classic diploma.
	Because it is.
	Because it is.
	And it's modeled after some dynamite ones that took a while to fine-tune it.
	And, uh, you'd put it up there on the wall with the other diplomas and let people see what happens.
	That's what I'd do.
	I think lots of good things will come your way.
	Yeah, people will go, oh, in the morning.
	Yes, indeed.
	Sir Spooky's up next, unless you've got something to play on.
	No, no, that's all we had to do.
	That's all we had to do, nothing.
	Yes, they're spookies in Western Springs, Illinois.
	333.33.
	Dear Adam and John, I want to celebrate my 33rd birthday on Tuesday as an executive producer for the best podcast in the universe.
	Plus, the 16 and 17 of this episode number equals 33.
	Ah, who knew?
	I cannot ignore such a cosmic calling.
	Please give us your strongest goat karma for peace and harmony in 2024.
	Your media deconstruction will be needed more than ever.
	I'm deeply grateful for all you do.
	Thank you and Merry Christmas, love and fright, Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets.
	You've got karma.
	Loving the 333.33s.
	Trenton Scovel, Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Short and sweet.
	Merry Christmas, gents!
	Thank you for the value.
	And thank you for the value you sent back.
	By the way, a reminder, you can send any amount you want.
	A lot of people like the numerology stuff, but as long as it represents the value you got from the show, that's all we ask for.
	Thank you, Trenton.
	Rita Harrington, Sparks, Nevada, also 333.33.
	Merry Christmas, John and Adam.
	Thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
	Your sense of humor is just right.
	Please give me a shout out as it's my 66th trip around the sun on 1220.
	Thanks.
	Reminder from Logan 5 that the next episode is the Golden Ratio number.
	16-18.
	Ooh.
	Yes.
	Is that right?
	Can you write that down?
	Can you write that down?
	I'm writing it down now.
	And I'll continue with Chap Williams who, from what I can see here, came in with two checks possibly?
	Of 333.33.
	He's here.
	He's listed double.
	Looks like these are checks.
	Can you verify?
	They are checks.
	They came in.
	Looks like two of them came in.
	And he did not have a note, which means he gets a double up karma.
	Thank you, chap!
	You've got double up karma.
	Of course.
	The golden ratio is 1.618.
	Of course.
	That's the golden ratio.
	1618.
	1.618.
	So everyone should give $1.61 and we'll be good to go.
	So everyone should give $1.61 and we'll be good to go.
	If everyone did, yes.
	David Mertens in Edmond, Oklahoma.
	That'll be the day.
	If everyone, if every single person gives a $1.68, we're done for the rest of the year.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	David Mertens in Edmond, Oklahoma.
	333.
	This is for the best podcast in the universe in celebration of the best papa in the universe.
	DJ and Thatcher are so lucky.
	Oh, that sounds like a good papa.
	There you go.
	And I'll continue to the end here because there's only one associate executive producer and it just so happens to be, guess who?
	Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado, who's still at it with her jobs, Carmen.
	She wants to tell you that for a remarkable resume that hits people in the mouth, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc.com.
	Or just find Linda Lou Patkin under the show's producer list and she continues with her Showdown here with this particular Announcement that she does jobs jobs jobs and jobs Thank you all executive and associate executive producers.
	I told you it was gonna be short and sweet today We appreciate that and not only does this mean that you have supported the show, but you also can use this credit Which is completely legal according to the show business Bible You can use this anywhere credits are recognized because we are an official show.
	You can go ahead, go to imdb.com.
	You'll see hundreds, almost a thousand executive or associate executive producers of the Noah Jenner Show.
	You'll recognize some big names in there as well.
	You can always put it on your LinkedIn or... Whoa!
	What are you drinking today?
	Yes, you can't.
	Well, you've got this microphone.
	I'm actually drinking your favorite, a Topo Chico mineral water.
	Yes, Topo Chico.
	That is the drink of Texas.
	Everybody loves the Topo.
	Is it a bottle or a can?
	It must be a bottle.
	It's a bottle and they have them at Costco at a really good price.
	I heard that the Costco Bordeaux is back.
	Yeah, somebody sent some pictures of it in.
	I will say this, that 2021 is not a good vintage and I'm really doubtful that this wine is going to be that great.
	But when I see it, I'll try it.
	Topo Chico with the yellow cap.
	You can recognize the yellow cap recognized anywhere.
	So you can, as I said, these credits can also put them on your LinkedIn or on your resume.
	It's great.
	It's good.
	It's valid forever.
	And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch for you.
	And John's going to take us through to the 50s, and we'll get into our meetups and our nightings.
	Karen Wiley starts us off from Arvada, Colorado, and she is going to ask for Jobs Karma for her daughter, Kate.
	She came in with $150.
	We'll give her the Jobs Karma at the end.
	Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico.
	Yes!
	$100.
	Tony Pace in Houston, Texas. $100.
	Dame Patricia Worthington from Miami is here with 100.
	James Watson in Mentor, Ohio, 100.
	Bingo!
	Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 8008.
	Boobs don't judge, they just love unconditionally.
	Sir GK in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 7373.
	73's!
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 6996.
	Always good to hear from him.
	Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke of Luna, is back.
	6006 small boobs and he says, boobs, they're not just for men anymore.
	You know, I have to say, besides the fact that he's been donating for months, I think over a year, his writing is creative.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Well, he's the best.
	Speaking of writing.
	Scott Schreiber and Madrid Merrill.
	Speaking of writing, we were expecting to have some kind of write-off in the newsletter.
	Tina was all excited about it, and then you bogued out.
	It was a handwriting comparison test?
	Yeah, I have to get back to the other woman.
	We're going to have a showdown.
	Here's where it's going to go, because I've got grandiose plans.
	It's going to be those two showdown, and then the winner takes on the next person who thinks they've got good handwriting, and we go until we get a winner at the end who will be crowned handwriting champion of the No Agenda Show.
	And we're the judges, right?
	Yeah, you and me.
	Yeah, cool.
	Okay.
	All right, carry on.
	As opposed to who?
	I just want to make sure we're doing it the way these things are always done.
	The way Taylor Swift for shows.
	After we get this done, that will give us the stretching exercises necessary to do the podcasting awards.
	Scott Schreiber is up next.
	He's in Madrid, Maryland, 60.
	Oh, and actually, he's in Madrid.
	It says Madrid.
	Oh, no.
	No, Spain.
	It says Spain.
	MD, no, I'm wrong.
	He's in Madrid, Spain.
	España.
	Which is nice.
	A Baron of BNA in Nashville, Tennessee, 59, 93.
	Sir B. Boop, we haven't heard from him for a while, in New Brighton, Minnesota, 5678.
	He's in the frozen tundra.
	Ola Osipov in Ormond Beach, Florida, 5555.
	James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510.
	Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.
	Go to Gigawatt Coffee Roasters.
	You gotta put that at the beginning so we can read it.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, yes, go to Gigawatt Coffee Wars.
	I'm going through their, I'm going to have, tell you what their best one is.
	And they'll give you an ITM 20, you get 20% off.
	51, 5510.
	Sir Tom Darian, DeForest, Wisconsin, 5510.
	5510. Sir Tom Darian, DeForest, Wisconsin, 5510. Jairus Corporation, Arlington, Virginia, 53. Sir Anonymous Cop in Redwood City, California, 5150.
	Christine Hines in Manchester, New Hampshire, $51.23.
	Viscount Sir Economic Hitman in Tombow, Texas, $50.01.
	Kelly McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas, $50.
	Oops!
	We're already to the $50s.
	This is a small list.
	But let's do a name and location.
	Kevin McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas.
	Michelle Parrott in Salem, Oregon.
	Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut!
	Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	Michael Thompson, New Brownsvilles, Texas.
	Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky.
	Joan Poles in Hernando Beach, Florida.
	Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee.
	Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
	Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California.
	Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia.
	Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	Walker Phillips in San Rafael.
	Tony Helfs in Fort Worth, Texas.
	William Dolgage in Bristolville, Ohio.
	Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach.
	And last but not least, our buddy Aichi Kitagawa in San Francisco.
	Thank you, people, for helping us out on Show 1617, I think.
	Yes.
	And we've got 1618 coming up, which is the Golden Ratio.
	We've got to come up with some good ideas here for that donation.
	And before we continue, Karen Wiley won a Jobs Karma for her daughter Kat, and Sir Chris Abram of the Pike, not a spook of Arlington, also needs Jobs Karma.
	I'm a TPP for you guys. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.
	You've got karma.
	Ah, the art generator just loaded.
	Beautiful.
	And again, thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers for supporting us here for episode 16, 17.
	We appreciate that.
	We especially want to thank everyone who came in under $50.
	You are appreciated.
	You are seen.
	Of course, we don't read anything.
	Under the $50 amount for reasons of anonymity, that's where you're guaranteed to stay anonymous.
	But we really love the sustaining donations which you can make yourself, you can come up with them, it can be special dollar amounts, you can determine the frequency yourself.
	They are very important to us for the slower days and if you want to learn more you can go to noagendadonations.com or vorac.org.
	And thank you once again for supporting us here at the best podcast in the universe, 1617!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, Slade!
	Order Shut up, Slade Shut up, Slade It's your birthday, birthday I'm so much out of here And just like the donation shortlist today Carolyn Hafner will be 50 tomorrow Your hubby sent that in at the last moment.
	Give him an extra hug because that was quite the mission he went through to get that happening.
	Spooky turns 33 on the 19th and Rita Harrington will be 66 on the 20th.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	We congratulate Mike Roach, who becomes a doctor, a PhD in media deconstruction today.
	Mike will go to noagendarings.com to pick up his PhD.
	And that means we also have one-nighting to do.
	I've got my one-nighting sword right here and I know what I like.
	And Mike Roach!
	I want to meet your parents, Mike Roch.
	Thank you very much for your super donation, and I am very proud to pronounce the KU as Double Doctor Sir Mike Roch, Baron Bull of the Lifestyle, sir, for you.
	And only for you, we have Eiffel Towers with high-fives and twerking Russians.
	We've got hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay in case you want them.
	We've got some redheads and rise.
	We've got some beer and blunts.
	We have cowgirls and coffin varnished.
	Rubenes, rumen and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka, manila, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, fresh milk and pablum.
	And of course, to go with your Twerking Russians, some mutton and meat.
	So you're probably already over at noagendarings.com.
	Thank you very much.
	Congratulations.
	I like the twerking Russians.
	That's a good one.
	Have we ever seen twerking Russians?
	I'll bet you they could.
	No.
	Look out, Russian dashboard cam coming.
	Could be the latest, newest thing.
	Could be the new thing.
	Mike, congratulations on your knighthood and your PhD, and thank you so much.
	We really appreciate the support.
	You have offered value for value.
	We don't mess around.
	There's no paywalls, no secret levels, no premium content.
	No, we give all the premium stuff right up front.
	Do with it what you want, but if at some point you're thinking, you know, that's pretty valuable, send it back to us.
	Time, talent, or treasure.
	No Agenda Meetups!
	That's right, the No Agenda Meetups.
	This is what you need.
	No Agenda Meetups.
	It is the perfect companion to the podcast.
	It's also a great way to pick up some COVID.
	It's perfect.
	If you want to get some illness, go to a meetup because sharing is caring and connection is protection.
	You really need to join your community.
	I'm not kidding about this.
	It's great to be a part of the in-person No Agenda community.
	Lots of great meetups happening all around the world.
	We have two reports.
	This one's from Epping, New Hampshire.
	In the morning, this is the Epping, New Hampshire, Center of the Universe, No Agenda Meetup.
	Here we are.
	I am not a douchebag.
	My name is Dave, and I just recently got my official podcasting license.
	In the morning, this is Sir Pokey.
	First night of the 42.
	I love both you guys, and John, I'm still so sorry.
	You probably didn't get my email.
	I apologize because you blocked me, but I'm so sorry for hurting your feelings.
	Love you both.
	In the morning, this is Daniel.
	Sir Daniel.
	Oh no, I'm not a sir yet.
	Um, that's all I got.
	Thank you for your courage.
	This is Dame Lydia.
	In the morning, this is Angelica.
	You know, I think there should be some kind of a special group of people who you've blocked.
	You know, there should be like... The Block Club.
	Yes, the JCD No Agenda Block Club.
	I think, you know, someone should start that.
	And you have to prove by showing your email?
	Let me say this.
	Let me say this.
	Let me say this before we continue.
	Why don't you say something?
	I'm gonna say this.
	This is bullcrap.
	Most of the people that think they've been blocked are not blocked.
	It's the Blockies!
	There you go.
	This is your award show.
	The Blockies.
	The Blockies!
	The No Agenda Blockies Award Show!
	Come on down, Blockies!
	What do you mean, they're blocked?
	No, they're not.
	The number of people that are blocked are very... No.
	Half of these people that claim they're blocked, they're not blocked.
	Well then what are they talking about?
	I have no idea.
	I know what it is.
	Your spam, if you put the word ass, even douchebag may get kicked back.
	Your filters there are really tight.
	It's tighter than Mike Rocha's.
	Your filters are so tight.
	I'm sure of that.
	They're so tight.
	Anyway, I would like to know, I think y'all should start a club.
	Hashtag the blockies on No Agenda Social.
	Hashtag the blockies.
	And post a screenshot with the error message that shows that you were blocked.
	It doesn't count if you use a lewd or lascivious language.
	And now for the Meetup Report from Brooklyn.
	I expected no less but a full-on dynamite in-your-face report.
	Now we're getting people from all over the globe coming to New York City.
	This issue will destroy New York City.
	This is Gitmo Nation's favorite shape-shifting Jew.
	Correct the record.
	Passing the phone around.
	Sir Spoonmaker here.
	Train's good.
	Plane's bad.
	This is Sir Boris of the Web 5 in New York.
	This is Micah Rock and Roll from the Brooklyn meetup.
	Great time.
	Everyone's super chill.
	Road to New York.
	We need more weirdos.
	Destroy New York City.
	17-year anniversary.
	Cut the meetup short for me.
	We never had a fight.
	ITM.
	This is David from Brooklyn in the morning.
	Bergus 33 here.
	Pretty sure a spoon maker uses spoons.
	This is Dan from New Jersey in the morning.
	Hi, this is Marilyn.
	There weren't any only dudes here.
	Hi, this is Tanya.
	I'm trapped in a tent with 13 strange men.
	I now know how it feels to get banned from the internet.
	The city we knew.
	We're about to lose.
	Thank you, Brooklyn!
	Brooklyn does not disappoint.
	Love that.
	Meetups taking place today.
	The SXM Salt and Soda Water Meetup that is underway now.
	Oh, yes, St.
	Martin is probably underway now.
	Fat Tony's Smokehouse.
	Send a report, people.
	I want to know how that went.
	We have Longview's lively, laugh-loaded, mid-month monthly meetup.
	Thanks.
	That'll be in Longview, Texas.
	Just started 20 minutes ago, Rotolo's Pizzeria.
	You can still make it.
	On Wednesday, the London Christmas Party.
	5 o'clock at Norfolk Arms in London.
	Wee Gee Gee is hosting that.
	Send a report.
	I want to hear how our London producers are doing.
	And the next show day, Thursday, Calling on North Georgia Slaves, 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia, and also on Thursday, the Charlotte Thirsty Third Thursday, 7 o'clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	There's many more on the list, including Sofia Bulgaria, Lombok, which is next to Bali in Indonesia, Tortola Virgin Islands, the British Virgin Islands, there's even some Texas, Albany, California, February 3rd!
	That's the Get JCD Out of the House Meetup.
	There's plenty more.
	All you need to do is go to noagentomeetups.com.
	Thank you, Sir Daniel, for your time and talent on keeping that website up and running.
	It's so good.
	It's so efficient for people to organize meetups and every Everybody is welcome.
	Everybody is welcome at a No Agenda Meetup.
	Go ahead, say hi to some people.
	You'll be surprised.
	You'll love it.
	It's like eating potato chips.
	You can't stop once you do.
	On NoAgendaMeetups.com, if you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
	It's easy.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want to be.
	Like a party Oh I'm gonna have to do my isos first.
	I'm over iso'd.
	I'm over iso'd.
	What do you have?
	I got too many.
	About too many.
	I'm over iso'd.
	I'm over iso'd.
	Alright, hit it.
	Alright.
	Those bodies are all stupid!
	Cute.
	Cute, yes.
	Cute is exactly the right term.
	That means that's their ass.
	Okay.
	Uh... Right?
	Right, yes.
	Loved it.
	Uh-huh.
	Feels so deja vu-y.
	I kinda like that one.
	And... I hate this!
	Uh-huh.
	Of that, I think the best is, uh... I feel so deja vu-y.
	I like that one.
	Deja vu.
	Feels so deja vu-y.
	Because it's kind of different.
	Mine are more direct.
	Okay.
	I mean, they're designed to actually be used.
	Oh, please.
	Let's start with good.
	The podcast is so good.
	Did she say podcast is so good?
	Yeah.
	Say it again.
	A little muddy.
	It's too bad.
	It was a little muddy.
	The podcast is so good.
	Alright, let's go with laughs and giggles.
	And everyone laughs and everyone giggles.
	Okay, that's a good one.
	I like that one.
	Yes, I like it.
	And then the one that's the obvious one is the good job.
	Wow, good job.
	We have a winner!
	We have a winner.
	We have a winner.
	I hope you don't mind, but I think I have the story today.
	You're talking about a good story?
	Yeah, a good news story.
	I think I have one.
	I think I have a good news story.
	Well, we can do a good news story showdown.
	I don't know if you're gonna beat mine because mine is a tearjerker.
	Alright, we'll start with mine.
	We go to Nashville.
	This is what's left of the room where Sydney Moore was laying on top of her one-year-old, shielding him from the tornado as her four-month-old baby got sucked away and her mobile home demolished.
	Towering over the rubble of her mobile home and shadowing her crushed car, Sydney's kid's playpen is wrapped around a tree.
	A jarring reminder of how easily the tornado tossed their four-month-old baby to the wind.
	The roof came off first, the tip of the tornado came down and picked up the bassinet with my baby Lord in it.
	And he was the first thing to go up.
	In his attempt to keep the bassinet inside, her boyfriend and father of her children was sucked up with it.
	At the same time, in the back bedroom, Sydney threw her body on top of their one-year-old son, shielding him.
	Literally, the moment I jumped on him, the walls collapsed.
	I was being really crushed.
	Like, I couldn't breathe.
	The couple frantically searched through the rubble and the pouring rain for the infant.
	I thought he was dead.
	I was pretty sure he was dead and we weren't going to be able to find him.
	Then, a miracle.
	They found baby Lord alive with just a cut on his face.
	And it looked like a little tree cradle.
	He was just laying there.
	The entire family survived.
	Now, as she walks back down to where her home used to be, Sidney's recalling how she thought this would never happen to her family.
	Everything could be taken like that.
	The kids that she risked her life to save, sleeping peacefully tonight.
	Like, those kids are what saved me.
	Like, they saved me from everything, and I don't know what I would have done without them.
	Okay, I think when you have a story of a baby getting sucked up by a tornado, the dad getting sucked up by the tornado... What happened to him, by the way?
	Did he end up in a tree?
	We didn't know the baby did.
	The kid's name is Lord...
	I mean, this has good news written all over it, and it was one minute and 30 seconds.
	Yeah, well, I like the time.
	Mine's too long, but mine's more of a tear... Also, it not only has good news written all over it, it has hoax written all over it.
	It wouldn't have said that if the baby was the Lord in there.
	That was the me checkmark, folks.
	What do you want?
	Good news.
	When do you want it?
	Now, please.
	Hidden in the crevices of a Canyon County ridge, a missing woman's life was left up to Eddie.
	Now we're doing this.
	And Chase.
	Yeah, dude, it's crazy.
	We're partners and hunters.
	We don't come out here in the winter.
	There's no reason for us to asides to look.
	And they couldn't believe what?
	There's a car down here.
	Or who?
	Right down in the little crevice.
	They'd found.
	In the corner, in the tumbleweeds.
	And we climbed down, a little investigation in the car, and that's when we found Penny's information.
	I put Penny's name, Penny K. Clark, in on Facebook.
	And that's when it popped up.
	A 72-year-old woman having no recent contact with her family.
	Kenyon County Sheriff Kieran Donahue had already been looking for Penny.
	No one would have looked here, really.
	There'd be no reason to look here.
	No reason to be there at all.
	So we were, I mean, out under those clouds and we decided to just make a random turn and get out, come back out this way.
	And this is where we ended up.
	Eddie and Chase called 911, explaining the car, the crash.
	The scene.
	And then one of the officers looks past the car with the binoculars and sees part of her and sees her moving her extremities.
	You know, me and Chase were in the truck filling out reports and one of the cops yelled, Penny!
	Good Lord, not only have we found her, she's still alive.
	With help from Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue, they trekked Penny off the ridge and flew her to a nearby hospital.
	No broken bones.
	You know, she was just cold, hungry, and tired.
	And I can't say enough what a miracle that is, you know?
	In my experience, this is a less than 1% chance of surviving this.
	God had a different plan.
	Multiple agencies coordinated the rescue, but the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in the county knows where to direct praise.
	They're the true heroes here.
	They really are.
	They're the ones that saved this woman's life.
	But Eddie and Chase?
	They don't need the credit.
	I don't know.
	I'm kind of lost for words.
	They already got the payment of a lifetime.
	And Penny's daughter arrived on scene when Penny got down to the ambulance.
	She said, I never thought listening to my mom snore in a hospital bed would be the best Christmas present, you know, to receive.
	And I hope your Christmas is just as special as this.
	It really hit home.
	All right, you get a point for the Christmas message.
	The length is too long.
	It's disqualified.
	Disqualified!
	It disqualifies... I have... Too long.
	It was 240.
	I couldn't cut it any... I tried to get under two.
	It was aegis.
	I agree, it's too long, but it had... It flowed so well with this... Lost penny.
	These two doofuses, yes?
	This is a hoax.
	They just happen to be out there... It's not a hoax!
	Yours is a hoax!
	They're hiking with a helicopter.
	Sure.
	Yeah, that's what I do.
	Oh, let's hop in the chopper.
	It's Aegis 72.
	Well, you're not dead at 72.
	Like, oh, she's 72.
	Okay, alright.
	You can, we'll just call it a draw.
	No!
	No!
	You're not getting a win for that, Morgz.
	Nor is Lorde.
	From JCD.
	Happy vibes for you and me.
	And we all feel better now he's done his bit.
	So back to reality, that's turning to shit.
	Alright, we'll call it no winner.
	No winner.
	Although I think getting sucked up by a tornado, your kid's name, if they had thrown a Christmas vibe in there, like, just in time for Christmas, baby lord is safe, that would have been a winner.
	I mean, there's just, there's no two ways about it.
	I reserve judgment on the sucked-up-by-a-tornado story.
	And the husband, too, I guess.
	Up there he goes.
	We never heard from him again.
	He's still in the sky.
	It's iffy what happened there.
	By the way, you know, people who've ever been in a tornado, where they've been actually outside, they've all reported kind of the same thing.
	You are Head-to-toe covered with splinters.
	Yeah, it could be, yeah.
	Well, Baby Lord only had a scratch.
	It was amazing.
	Yeah, only had a scratch.
	There's another thing that bothers me.
	Um, I have two AI clips, if you want, that we could end with.
	Or do you have something that you'd like to end with?
	No, I guess this stuff can be moved.
	I don't have anything that's critical.
	AI is great.
	We haven't talked about AI for weeks.
	Yeah, I was missing my AI stories.
	Well, this was on CNN.
	It was rather peculiar because they're anti-AI.
	Um, I don't really... As well they should be with Channel 1.ai coming down the pike.
	Maybe that's why they did this particular story.
	It's not ready for deployment.
	Georgia Tech professor and researcher Matthew Gombele.
	- It's not ready for deployment.
	It's not a product yet. - So do you think it should be used by police departments?
	Certainly not.
	A report by Georgetown Law estimates that as of 2016, one in two American adults is in a law enforcement face recognition network.
	And it can happen without your consent or knowledge.
	This technology is not accurate for the way it's being used.
	When you ask a question like, does this person's face match up with a fugitive, You can have a 99.7% accuracy rate.
	That sounds really good.
	But what if you ask that same question 300 million times?
	You deploy these things at scale, at a population level, you're going to get a tremendous number of false positives.
	Depending on your race, that accuracy drops even more.
	A 2019 U.S.
	government study of 200 facial recognition algorithms found some of them up to a hundred times more likely to misidentify people of color compared to white people.
	We will see what happens.
	Using pictures of CNN journalists, plus these Georgia Tech researchers, he created a virtual lineup and told the AI to identify my face.
	It works.
	Some of the time, though, it says no face.
	Some of it, like here, it just thought that you were Victor Blackwell.
	It thought that I was Victor Blackwell?
	Yes.
	Victor Blackwell's a black man.
	Yes.
	What does that say that says that these algorithms are not ready for prime time?
	In building the algorithm, you can teach the AI to be racist?
	Yes.
	You can absolutely teach the algorithm to be racist.
	The algorithm doesn't care.
	The algorithm just wants to do a good job at the task you've given it.
	And in this case, You're telling it that if you're black, you're more likely to have committed the crime.
	Yes.
	That's the data that you fit in.
	That's the part that I liked about the story.
	Oh, what bullcrap.
	Of course it's bullcrap.
	They're like, you can teach the AI to be racist.
	Oh, yeah.
	So, it showed a black man because he's more likely to have committed the crime?
	I mean, I'm anti-AI, but even I'm not buying that bullcrap.
	No, this is bad.
	That was a bad report.
	It was a great report!
	What are you talking about?
	It shows that this is all bullcrap.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Alright.
	Do you have anything better?
	I can tell you this.
	I mean, I went through these facial recognition systems years ago.
	I know.
	Over 12 years ago.
	It's not even AI.
	And they worked great.
	And they had nothing to do with AI.
	No.
	They don't.
	I got someone telling me, AI can't do math because it's a large language model.
	Well, dude, someone needs to work on the marketing because these things are being sold as the next best thing since sliced bread, and they're not.
	AI winter's coming!
	It's coming!
	At least you stick to your thesis.
	That's good.
	AI winter is coming.
	Billions of dollars.
	It's next up.
	We all know what it's going to be.
	Quantum computing.
	It happened before quantum computing is a dead end.
	Yeah, well, they need something to prop up the stock market.
	Coming up next on NoAgendaStream.com, we have, oh, the airline pilot guy.
	We haven't heard from him in a while.
	No, that's good.
	That's a good show.
	No, it's a very good show.
	It's one of the better aviation podcasts out there.
	And if you're at TrollRoom.io, you can listen in, use the Modern Podcast app as well.
	I have a Christmas end of show mix for you.
	You'll love it.
	We have Leona... Actually, the end of show mix, which you played earlier, is dynamite.
	We have Sir Chris Wilson and Matty J. And this will get you in the mood for Christmas, I guarantee you.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, in FEMA Region No.
	6, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's raining, it's about time.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Thursday, which will be the 21st, counting down to Christmas.
	We'll be working on Christmas Eve as well.
	We love it!
	It's what we do.
	Time, talent, treasure.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash N.A.
	Until Thursday, everybody, adios mofos, ahooey hooey, and such!
	A debate about the gender of Santa Claus has now broke out on Facebook after a mother in England that she had been shamed for not using a gender-neutral name for Santa Claus.
	The mother claimed in the viral post that she had been attacked for using the name Father Christmas to describe the bearded character.
	This caused everybody in the Facebook group to completely erupt and explode on her.
	How dare you refer to Santa Claus as Father Christmas?
	How dare you?
	Because they think a big, fat man with a long, white, curly beard might be a chick.
	They might want to date that chick.
	You have stolen my childhood!
	Father Christmas is not being very nice to me!
	Punch him!
	Punch his penis!
	Purse and Christmas are what they're suggesting.
	But he's a bloke.
	What are we going to do with Mother Nature?
	How about Father Time?
	Well, it needs work.
	I have to go.
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	Here he comes now, the big ham. - Yeah.
	Christmas 1941, in the weeks after Pearl Harbor, Franklin Delano Roosevelt hosted Luther Churchill in this White House.
	Together, they planned the most terrible year of years, the year of assassination and riot, of war and chaos.
	Still today, in our own time, our own lives, So this Christmas, let's spread a little poison.
	The pandemic has taken so much from us.
	We've lost hope, love, peace, and joy.
	No peace at all.
	I hope this Christmas season marks a fresh start.
	Our nation has infected our politics and set us against one another.
	We see each other as enemies, not as neighbors.
	As Democrats and Republicans, not as fellow Americans.
	So angry.
	So mean.
	So partisan.
	Great pain and terrible loneliness all across the country.
	Over a million lives lost in America alone.
	Whether a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist.
	That's a million empty chairs.
	You know, I believe Christmas is a season of breaking hearts and homes all across the country.
	He's Mr. Snow at Pride.
	There's hundreds.
	There's hundreds.
	Smoking anything that remotely resembles crack cocaine.
	Thirteen days without sleeping with crack cocaine.
	Too much!
	Ha ha!
	Too much!
	Don't trust China!
	China is asshole!
	Don't trust China!
	China is asshole!
	China won.
	For Christmas.
	The United States.
	The United States.
	China is asshole!
	Why would I be talking about Winnie the Pooh so much?
	Winnie the Pooh is constantly being banned in China.
	And that's because the leader, Xi Jinping, is very sensitive.
	And he doesn't like the fact that people compare him to Winnie the Pooh.
	China is asshole.
	China wants for Christmas the United States.
	The United States.
	China is asshole. - Wow!
	China?
	Why?
	For Christmas.
	The United States.
	The United States!
	The United States!
	Don't trust China!
	China is asshole!
	Don't trust China!
	China, China is asshole.
	China, China, China. China.
	Adios, mofo.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A.

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