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	Could you imagine a massive fight breaking out of Coachella?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, August 21st, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 957.
	This is no agenda.
	Standing tall and proud to be anti-fob.
	And coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet in downtown Austin, Tejas, Camel of the Drone, Star State, in the Cludio, in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the politics are alt-douchebag, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It took a while to work on that one.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, I thought mine was better.
	What did you say?
	I'm anti-fob.
	Oh, anti-fob.
	Yes.
	Anti-fob is what I am.
	Well, I'm...
	And I mean it.
	And I mean it.
	I am anti-fob.
	We need to stop this.
	What is it?
	I'm against fobs.
	I'm against the use of fobs.
	Like he-fob?
	Yes, I'm against it.
	Why?
	Because they're very bad.
	In an event of power outage, you were stuck.
	Oh, I thought...
	Oh, you mean you're talking about the...
	Yes, you're talking about the...
	Anti-fob.
	The ones that are near field or whatever.
	Yeah, of course.
	The induction.
	Of course I'm against that.
	It's a very bad idea.
	We need keys.
	We need to go back to keys.
	It's keys.
	I'd be happy with the keys.
	I can do a combo lock.
	I feel that way with cars.
	I think these cars are just asking to be stolen.
	Well, yeah, they are.
	That's another issue.
	In fact, my old Lexus, the 93 Lexus SC400, has a key with a little button on it that opens the doors and closes them.
	No!
	And there's a little switch inside to turn that function off, which I always kept it on for about a year until I ran into somebody, a year or two, and I ran into somebody who had this exact same car and she told me that her car was stolen.
	Because they had these devices in the early days.
	You can sniff them.
	You push a button, you unlock every car in the parking lot.
	Those are the good ones, yeah, back in the day.
	Yeah.
	And so I turned this function off and never used it since.
	Well, I've been trying, you know, you know that I cloned the RFID cards for the building here, and I've been trying to do the garage door.
	The garage door is a little more challenging, the garage door opener, because it uses, you know, like, the fob has to be known to the opener, to the system.
	Oh, I see.
	Doesn't it also have an actual radio in it?
	Yeah, it does.
	But here's the funny thing.
	I look it up online.
	It's a LiftMaster.
	And you can buy the fobs.
	You can buy as many fobs as you want that look exactly the same as the building's fob.
	All you have to do is reach up to the LiftMaster, press the learn button, hit your fob, and you're in.
	So have you done that?
	I'm waiting for the fobs.
	The minute the fobs are here.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	But this is bad security.
	Yes, it's security theater.
	Theater, yes.
	Theater, as we say.
	Yes, it is indeed.
	And we've got some algo issues.
	It's going nuts now, John.
	Silicon Valley is out of control.
	In this rental, everyone has...
	It's unhinged.
	It is.
	Everyone has a nest in their unit.
	And my nest, all of a sudden, popped up a message.
	Yeah?
	I didn't know it had this capability.
	Well, here's the message.
	It said, it's an eclipse.
	Get involved.
	Join the solar eclipse rush hour.
	And then you have three choices.
	You can select count me in, no thanks, or tell me more.
	Should we hit tell me more?
	What?
	Should we hit tell me more?
	Yeah, of course.
	On August 21st, the solar eclipse will cause a dip in the energy supplied by over 100 million solar panels across America.
	Nest will adjust the temperature to help use less energy during the rush hours.
	How long is this eclipse going to last?
	10 days?
	This is all a precursor, you know.
	This is just a precursor to your nest.
	Because what they're doing is, the nest is going to control my temperature.
	We control the vertical.
	We control the horizontal.
	Yes.
	Of course I opted in.
	I want to see how it works.
	I want to see what's going on.
	But this is just, you know, the next bit is just advertising they're going to pop up.
	You know that.
	You've predicted it, and you're right.
	They're already just messaging me, like, hey, come on.
	So, because the solar panels, which supply so much energy...
	Oh, yeah, tons.
	...won't be used for 10 minutes, therefore we have to all conserve energy, and the Nest is all...
	Google is all in on that?
	That's very odd.
	Yeah, well, it's...
	I bet a lot of people go, oh, how nice!
	No, most people appreciate this kind of thing.
	Oh, that's great.
	That's so fabulous.
	Well, I've been learning a lot.
	I've been learning a lot.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, you've been learning a lot.
	What have you learned?
	Well, I've learned...
	What have you learned, Adam?
	What am I learning?
	I've learned...
	We have a lot of producers who sent me very thoughtful notes on all sides of the anti-fascist Nazi debate.
	Oh, the big debate.
	Our producer, Ed LeBoutiller, Sir Ed...
	Yes, or Ed?
	He has wrote quite extensively for decades about white nationalism, identitarianism.
	He believes that he was one of the first people to coin the phrase white nationalist from his writings.
	What year was this?
	Well, let me see.
	And he said, you can put my note, you can put everything in the show notes.
	This was Arthur E. LeBoutier.
	Does it have a date on it?
	Uh...
	This does not...
	What would it have to be?
	1994.
	How about that?
	94.
	I think it predates that, but I'll give him credit.
	He's one of our guys.
	Yes, he's one of our guys.
	And a very thoughtful explanation of what the anger is with the Jews.
	And it's really quite mind-boggling.
	And I find that once you just listen to people and listen to what they have to say, you can understand some things.
	I mean, I'd agree with everything, but I tell you...
	But then you start having anger with the Jews all of a sudden.
	Well, in case you missed it, over the weekend, this whole Nazi Antifa kerfuffle switched from blacks and slavery to Jews.
	Oh, you didn't catch this?
	Well, I mean, I caught it locally because there was some Jewish...
	I do have a clip, as a matter of fact, of a Jewish synagogue that had its window broken, and they made a huge deal out of it around here, including some woman who brought in a meme, which I might as well play this clip.
	This is the KTVU clip, I think.
	I don't have my...
	I'm not looking at this thing right now, but let me take a look.
	Yeah, Spanish Connection?
	That?
	No, no, no.
	The Spanish Connection is a series of clips.
	Oh, that's the only KTVU. Oh.
	Oh, no, that's another one.
	Let's see.
	Synagogue window broken.
	Try that.
	Okay.
	Video in detail.
	Process some more evidence.
	And we are treating this as a hit crime.
	Right on!
	Woo!
	Right on!
	That validation is something this teenager needs to hear.
	A victim herself, she says, of anti-Semitism at Alameda High School, targeted with slurs and texts.
	Saying Hitler should have finished off the job and finished off your family.
	Jews belong in the ovens.
	Jews are all kikes.
	I believe that anti-Semitism is taken a lot more lightly.
	I believe it's because lots of people consider Jews to be white and assume us to have white privilege.
	Return to where you are.
	Whether the vandalism was inspired by events in Charlottesville, no one can say.
	Everything's Charlottesville.
	So this white thing came up again.
	Yes.
	So this is a meme that I would credit Horowitz for spotting first.
	Right.
	And I don't know what there is to it, but there's something to it.
	Well, I can read you what our producer sent us, if you're interested, regarding this specifically.
	Okay, go.
	Hold on.
	It's a long note.
	I gotta scroll down here.
	You don't have it printed out?
	Give me a break.
	Hold on a second.
	I got every...
	Okay, anti-Jewishness in white power.
	Here we go.
	There's a weird, almost religious anti-Semitism that exists historically in Europe, Canada, and the U.S. It pervades the, quote, old white power movement.
	I'm not personally anti-Jewish.
	Some don't believe me, but whatever.
	When I associated with the Klansmen and Nazis, Neo and Paleo, I couldn't believe the hatred, fantastical viewpoint these people had against Jews.
	I still don't.
	You guys giggle at the shape-shifting Jew song, but some of the old white movement has views that really coincide with that kind of belief about Jews.
	Wow.
	That's where we got it from.
	Yes.
	I've joked with them that they almost treat Jews like they're the master race with magical tricks.
	I think it stems from the Spartacus Uprising.
	The Spartacus Uprising, I'm not familiar with that, but there's a wiki page.
	Germans felt very cheated by Jewish involvement.
	That's the I am Spartacus thing.
	You know about it.
	Yeah, now you say that I do.
	But I know it precedes that too.
	Eastern Europeans that I've met with have even more deep-seated dislike.
	So the idea is that the Jews are taking over Europe, which the white nationalists and identitarians perceive to be their homeland, and they feel it's a hijack.
	This is the way I deconstruct what I'm being told.
	And, you know, this is...
	What are you going to do?
	I mean, the one thing, the takeaway that I got from all of this is that...
	And we've been talking about it.
	We almost had it right.
	We said there's a war on men.
	We've been saying this for six, seven, eight years maybe.
	Maybe the whole show.
	Can you recall how long we've been tracking that?
	It's been a while is all I know.
	You know, men look stupid on TV. They're dumb in commercials.
	It's been going on for a while.
	Going on for a while.
	But we know that if you're a male, especially if you're an older white male, if you're straight, and most importantly, if you're white, you are the problem.
	You are the patriarchy.
	Everything is your fault, indirectly.
	So, you know, white men are being marginalized.
	And it's been going on for a long time.
	And when people don't have a lot of...
	Smarts, maybe?
	You know, this frustration, this frustration.
	In fact, I got a great example of this.
	You remember that douchebag from the Vice documentary?
	Which one of many douchebags, or alt douchebags?
	I'll play it for you.
	The Christopher Cantwell guy.
	This guy.
	So when did you get into, as you said, the racial stuff?
	When the Trayvon Martin case happened, you know, Michael Brown and Tamir Rice and all these different things happened, Every single case, it's some little black asshole behaving like a savage, and he gets himself in trouble, shockingly enough.
	Whatever problems I might have with my fellow white people, they generally are not inclined to such behavior, and you've got to kind of take that into consideration when you're thinking about how to organize your society.
	In Oklahoma City.
	Okay, so exactly.
	You have to go back to Oklahoma.
	You remember this guy, and then he went on to say that he's much more racist than Donald Trump because he would never give his daughter to a Jew.
	Yes, that guy.
	So this guy shows up on a YouTube video he released over the weekend.
	Apparently, there may be a warrant out for his arrest.
	And I knew it.
	Ben, this is the case with many, many bullies and people like this.
	He actually is just a very frustrated, sad, you know...
	Very frustrated young man who's crying about, you know, well, just listen to this.
	I contacted the local police.
	I called the Charlottesville Police Department, and I asked them, I said, I have been told that there's a warrant out for my arrest.
	You can already hear it's emotional here.
	They said that they wouldn't confirm it, but that I could find this out if I, excuse me, That I could find this out if I wanted to go to a local magistrate or something like that.
	But with everything that's happening, I don't think it's wise for me to...
	This isn't new.
	What?
	This clip.
	This clip.
	I've heard this clip a couple weeks ago.
	How can it be?
	Charlottesville wasn't a couple of weeks ago.
	I'm telling you, I heard this before.
	Does he mention Charlottesville in this clip?
	Yes, he just mentioned it.
	No, you didn't.
	Okay.
	Well, listen again.
	Tell me where he says it.
	Okay.
	I contacted the local police.
	I called the Charlottesville Police Department.
	Charlottesville Police Department.
	Does that count?
	Well, I guess it has to.
	...department.
	And I asked them, I said, I have been told that there's a warrant out for my arrest.
	And they said that they wouldn't confirm it, but that I could find this out if I... Excuse me.
	That I could find this out.
	The first thing, I have to stop this.
	I don't really want to hear it.
	Why not?
	Because I don't believe this is the truth.
	For one thing, I don't like these guys going on YouTube and crying.
	It makes me itch.
	And I think it's fake.
	I just don't buy any of these.
	I'm really getting tired of Stefan Molyneux and all the rest of them that come on one-on-one with their own camera in a bucket, and they're yacking away about something.
	And this guy, why is he doing this?
	Why would anybody do this?
	Well, do you want to listen to it and then come up with your thesis?
	Or do you just want to just...
	I just want to gripe.
	Play it.
	...to go to a local magistrate or something like that.
	But with everything that's happening, I don't think it's wise for me to be, you know, going anywhere.
	There's a state of emergency.
	The National Guard is here.
	You know, so I don't think it's a good idea for me to go there, frankly.
	And I don't know what to do.
	I've emailed Stephen Tenney of the King Police Department.
	I'm sorry.
	I have emailed Stephen Tenney of the King Police Department.
	He's one of the cops who came there.
	He's one of the cops who saved my ass when I had to pull my gun in Keene.
	And I emailed him and I said, I don't know what to do.
	I need guidance.
	I want to be peaceful.
	I want to be law-abiding.
	That was the whole entire point of this.
	And I'm watching CNN talk about this as violent white nationalist protests.
	We have done everything in our power to keep this peaceful.
	You know?
	I know we talk a lot of shit on the internet, but literally, Jason Kessler applied for a permit months ago for this.
	When they yanked our permit, we went to the ACLU and we went to court and we won!
	We've been coordinating with law enforcement the entire time.
	Every step of the way, we've tried to do the right thing.
	And they just won't stop.
	We have done everything in our power.
	We have used every peaceful and lawful means by which to redress our grievances.
	And our enemies just will not stop.
	We've been fucking assaulted.
	They are threatening us all over the place.
	We are trying to make this peaceful.
	We are trying to be law-abiding.
	And our enemies will not stop.
	What options do we have left?
	If somebody would like to inform me of that, then I will be grateful to you.
	I really will.
	Now, the reason why I played this, John...
	Was only to point out that just like...
	This was supposedly the toughest guy on the block that was highlighted as...
	He's trying to get tougher.
	As the...
	Well, if you see the video...
	That's what he said on Vice.
	He says he wants to get tougher.
	I know, but this is not Vice.
	I'm playing you something different.
	I know that.
	I'm just saying on Vice, he made a point that he's going to be tougher.
	Yes, we're going to get tougher.
	I'm just backing up your point.
	I got you.
	I got you.
	Okay.
	What I'm seeing here is LARPing on all sides.
	This guy's a LARPer.
	He's a LARPer with a gun.
	Which I doubt he would actually use.
	This is all LARPers.
	These are very, very sad children who are confused by a lot of different things.
	And I have some compassion for the douche.
	I have no compassion for him.
	And I think that, for one thing, besides kind of being a LARPer, live-action role-player...
	He's also exhibiting, by this sad crying bit, he's exhibiting something that people turned up years ago with people who would show up on Maury Povich and what's the other, the real horrible one?
	Well, Maury Povich.
	That guy's show.
	They would go up there and then when they were interviewed after all their experiences and stuff, they actually hoped they would get a job in television as actors or actresses.
	That could be.
	That could be.
	And I think this guy is showing his acting chops.
	Okay.
	Well, Jerry Springer is what you're thinking of.
	Springer, yeah.
	The worst.
	It could be.
	It could be, John.
	Could absolutely be.
	I don't understand why he would do this.
	He's showing his range, so here I am as the douchebag is going to get worse, and here I am in my sensitive role.
	Is that what you're thinking?
	Absolutely.
	You're giving this guy a lot of credit.
	A lot of credit.
	Okay, I'll give him credit for this reason.
	The fact that he could be featured on the Vice documentary and then featured in a couple of the CBS reports because he was shown wandering around.
	I mean, this guy's managed to get himself on the air, and now he's doing this bit, which is a little different than his other tough guy bit, I think is absolutely an actor trying to get a part.
	What part?
	What's he auditioning for?
	Most people who want to get a job in Hollywood or want to be in the movies, they don't give a crap what job it is.
	They just want a job.
	I can act.
	I can show you my range.
	Well, okay.
	Then this is not an example that works.
	It might work for everybody, but it doesn't work for me.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But, here's an example I was given, which is, you know, I'm sure someone could call it a false equivalency.
	But, and this meme has been going around the interwebs.
	If you look up in the Wikipedia, there's black pride, gay pride, and white pride.
	They all have very different descriptions.
	Black pride is, you know, pride for being black.
	Gay pride is pride for being white.
	White pride, Nazi!
	Think about it.
	That's it in a nutshell, for sure.
	That's kind of what it is.
	So you should have no white pride unless you're a Nazi.
	Otherwise, no.
	Just sit down and shut up.
	White privilege.
	And last night we had the millennials over.
	And I didn't get into deep stuff with him.
	It was supposed to be a fun dinner.
	But at a certain point, like I said, you need to explain intersectionality to me.
	So I got an explanation on intersectionality.
	And after this explanation, I said, so basically, it means you have two disadvantages.
	You have a color disadvantage and a gender disadvantage.
	I said, yeah, exactly.
	So lesbians...
	It would be a lesbian intersectionality would including black lesbians in the group.
	And it sounds weird, but I'm pretty sure that this is what they explained to me.
	And then I said, well, what if you have a white feminist?
	Yeah, no, they're not intersectional because they've been running everything for all these centuries.
	And that was it.
	And these are white kids.
	And that was it.
	White has been running the show, so instead of, hey, let's share the show or whatever it is, you're out and it's just done.
	And I don't understand it.
	I don't.
	I don't understand.
	Where is the logic?
	What's there to understand?
	It's crazy.
	Where's the logic that everybody can have their own identity and culture unless you're white and male?
	What do you expect you're going to get?
	You get these sad, sad boys who are sad.
	I'm not going to take this.
	I'm taking the stance he's not acting.
	Even if he is, that's sad too.
	The guy's a podcast.
	That's about all he is.
	A podcast.
	I know, that's even worse.
	What's worse, white nationalists or podcasters?
	I'm not sure where we are on the scale.
	So, you know, the fact that no one is talking to these people, and no one is actually putting their grievances out there, we've got to get back to the Jew thing, because I've got to read this Facebook thing that's been going around.
	Hold on a second, where is it?
	You haven't seen this, obviously.
	Here we go.
	It's being copy-pasted.
	Who wrote this originally?
	Some guy in Berkeley.
	No, it doesn't matter.
	Copy-paste and help spread this real news.
	As opposed to what comes out of the mouth of the fake news president.
	Please read.
	Written by Lisa Moore, Charlottesville.
	In response...
	Wait, is this the one?
	Hold on a second.
	Shoot!
	This is not the one I wanted.
	This is a different one.
	Oh my God.
	Hold on, John.
	I'm sorry.
	I'd almost want to stop the show just to find it, but now the face bag has booted me away from the thing.
	Play a clip for me so I can get this.
	All right, well, if I play a clip, unfortunately all my clips are kind of interconnected, but I can play something simple.
	Let's just play this.
	There's a one-off.
	Mueller loses lawyer.
	I don't know what it means.
	I'm looking into it.
	Back here at home tonight, into the sudden shake-up in the Russia investigation.
	Special Counsel Robert Mueller losing one of his top investigators, Peter Stroke, after only a few weeks on the job.
	There's no word why tonight.
	Mueller working with nearly two dozen lawyers, administrators, and a federal grand jury now investigating Russia's meddling in the U.S. presidential election and any possible collusion.
	Boom.
	Okay, so what is that because?
	Yeah, explain that.
	I can't explain it.
	I think this whole thing's falling apart on him.
	And the guy just quit.
	He says, you know, there's nothing here.
	I'm out of here.
	I also understood that there's all kinds of rules and regulations that are being thrown up into Mueller's team about some of his lawyers, including himself, who have relationships and thus possibly collusion with Clinton.
	Yes, they're all related to the Clinton Foundation.
	Right.
	Well, we've heard this, but maybe that's why the guy resigned.
	I don't know.
	Okay, here's another clip while you're still looking.
	This is a good one.
	So Milo was on C-SPAN. Oh.
	And one part of the reason was to moan and groan about the fact that nobody ever interviews him.
	And actually, you watch him on C-SPAN discussing his woes for about an hour.
	You see why nobody interviews him.
	You know, he actually sounds good in audio, but when you watch him, he's mugging, he's throwing his head around, he's flipping his wrist.
	I mean, it's just too much.
	And it's really hard to take him.
	And he has these crazy ideas.
	This one here is my favorite, and I clipped it specifically because I know you might know about this.
	Okay.
	And this is Milo is Madonna.
	Right.
	To be honest with you, I don't think this is too hubristic.
	I think this is true.
	If you imagine Madonna in the 90s, her videos being banned by MTV, and it created this sense that it was irresistible.
	Everybody wanted to see the video.
	And because the video was also great, and the music was also great, MTV was banning it for reasons that everybody under 40 thought was stupid.
	That's really what turned her into a megastar.
	Well, who's the closest to that today?
	It's me.
	Sounds familiar.
	It's me.
	Right.
	What's that?
	That sounds like it's right.
	I think it is.
	I think it's true.
	I think I'm the Madonna in the 90s, you know?
	Like, no, this is the, this is, I mean, you know, C-Span is for a particular audience, but it's not a major, it's not a major mainstream media broadcast.
	I haven't been interviewed once.
	Not once.
	I, you know, Barnes& Noble, we had to fight them to get my books, even in stock, you know?
	And they had these grayed out buttons where the staff couldn't even order it, you know?
	Some real shady stuff was going on over there, right?
	Absolutely.
	Simon Schuster dropped it.
	The book hasn't been reviewed.
	But you can turn that into great media.
	People do respond to that.
	And of course I did.
	And of course you did.
	They know, by the way, that I have a very interesting phone call I recorded that I made to their vice president of public affairs, which I will drop if they keep misbehaving.
	And yes, that is a threat.
	I have, you know...
	Okay.
	Yeah, he's a Madonna.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	So he goes on and bitches and moans a lot in this interview.
	And it's funny that he's being interviewed.
	This is one of those things where they take an author and they just, somebody else in the same field grills him or discusses with him.
	In this case, it was the publisher of Regnery, the big conservative publishing house, who I guess didn't pick up his book when they had the chance.
	And he self-published it.
	And she couldn't get a word in edgewise.
	He just plows over everybody.
	I can see why he doesn't get it on any of these talk shows.
	Yeah, I wouldn't put him on.
	I mean, the best he's done so far has been with Alex Jones, and it was more of him interviewing Jones, so it was a little less of him and more of Jones.
	Anyway.
	That's Milo.
	Yeah, well, I wish I could read this thing to you, but somehow I've not been able to find this at all, and the chat room's not helpful.
	This is very strange.
	Well, can I say something?
	Please.
	About this?
	Yeah.
	I guess maybe...
	You also can't save stuff from Facebook in a normal way.
	This is part of the problem.
	That's great.
	I'm just saying printouts.
	Yeah, that's what I should do.
	I think you're right.
	But yes, you were going to say?
	Printouts.
	That's what I was going to say.
	Oh, that's what you were going to say?
	Well, this is really annoying.
	It was written by some guy in Berkeley.
	I think it might have been a professor.
	And I just don't have it anywhere.
	Oh, well.
	But you'll get it.
	You'll find it and put it on the next show, but this time print it out.
	I always print my stuff out and then...
	Well, it was kind of seminal to the point I was making, but, you know, all right.
	Yeah, well, I guess the point is lost.
	Well, what has happened, though...
	It was a good try, though.
	Yes, thanks.
	Well, you can summarize.
	I'm going to summarize.
	That's exactly what I was going to do.
	I'm summarizing it.
	The summary is, it is an outrage what Donald Trump has done Because he has sympathized...
	Key words in this thing, that's why I want to find it.
	Sympathized with the Nazis, and therefore all Jews must stand against him.
	There's a whole bunch of Yiddish words that are thrown in.
	And then, you know, Kushner, you have one day to get out and leave...
	And what's happening is you're seeing, especially Jewish business leaders, everybody has to step away from the president because once you get the Jews out saying this guy's no good, it's over.
	I mean, you can't even have a discussion.
	What I just said even can be deemed as severely anti-Semitic.
	Did I tell you that when I was like 20?
	Did I tell you that when someone asked me on Dutch radio?
	Like, do you think the Jews control Hollywood?
	And stupid me.
	You said yes?
	No.
	I said, I don't know.
	I see a lot of Jewish names on the credits.
	Boom!
	I had to apologize.
	The Dutch Anti-Defamation League was, you know, like shaming me.
	Like, holy crap.
	Well, you were right, but you should have said it doesn't mean the Jews.
	I mean, it's not as though you've got ten guys running ten studios, all have Jewish names and might be part of a synagogue or two.
	That doesn't mean that they're in collusion in such a way that they're running Hollywood.
	Well, here's the letter.
	They're competing with each other, as a matter of fact, and probably in a very nasty way.
	I have the letter, believe it or not.
	Thank you, Greg Davies.
	Here we go.
	I'm glad I can read this.
	This is an open letter to our fellow Jews.
	Please copy-paste everywhere on the face bag.
	To our fellow Jews, and this is everywhere, except now I can't find it.
	I don't know how that works.
	To our fellow Jews in the United States, in Israel, and around the world.
	It was probably banned.
	I bet you that thing was put aside.
	Oh, I don't think so.
	I mean, that must have just happened then.
	We know that up to now, some of you have made an effort to reserve judgment on the question of whether or not President Donald Trump is an anti-Semite, and to give him the benefit of the doubt.
	Some of you voted for him last November, some of you have found employment in his service, or have involved yourself with him in private business deals or in diplomatic ties.
	You have counted carefully as each appointment to his administration of a white supremacist, anti-Semite, neo-Nazi, or crypto-fascist appeared to be counter...
	What is a crypto-fascist?
	It's a fascist.
	Who uses Bitcoin?
	No, a crypto-fascist is someone that doesn't say they're a fascist, but if you deconstruct them, they are fascists.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, then.
	Crypto-fascists appeared to be counterbalanced by the appointment of a fellow Jew and reassured yourself that most troubling of those hires would be cumulatively outweighed by the presence in his own family and circle of closest advisors of a Jewish son-in-law and daughter.
	You've given your support to the President's long and appalling record of racist statements, at worst assenting to them, at best dismissing them as the empty blandishments of a huckster at work, and have chosen to see the warm reception that his rhetoric found among the hood wearers, weekend stormtroopers, and militias of hate as proof of the gullibility of a bunch of patsies, however distasteful.
	I guess better.
	You have viewed him as a potential friend to Israel or a reliable enemy of Israel's enemies.
	You've tried to ally or dismiss your fears with the knowledge that most of the president's hateful words and actions, along with those of his appointees, have targeted other people, immigrants, black people, Muslims, taking hollow consolation in how open and shameless his hate has been, as if that openness and shamelessness guaranteed the absence taking hollow consolation in how open and shameless his hate has been, as if that openness and shamelessness guaranteed the absence in his The president has no filter, no self-control, you've told yourself.
	If you were an anti-Semite, a Nazi sympathizer, a friend of Jew-hating clan, we would know by now.
	But now he would surely have told us.
	No?
	Well, yesterday, in a long and ragged off-the-cuff address to the press corps, President Trump told us for sure.
	During a moment that white supremacist godfather Steve Bannon...
	Wow!
	White supremacist godfather Steve Bannon has apparently described as defining for his administration.
	The president expressed admiration and sympathy for a group of white supremacist demonstrators who march through the streets of Charlottesville, flaunting swastikas and openly chanting along with vile racist slogans, Jews will not replace us.
	Among those demonstrators, according to Trump, were, quote, a lot of innocent and very fine people.
	So now you know.
	First he went after immigrants, the poor, Muslims, trans people, and people of color, and you did nothing.
	You contributed to his campaign, you voted for him, you accepted positions on his staff and his council.
	Nobody reading that voted for him.
	You entered into negotiations, cut deals, made contracts with him and his government.
	Now he's coming after you.
	The question is, what are you going to do about it?
	If you don't feel or can't show any concern, pain, or understanding for the persecution and demonization of others, at least show a little self-interest.
	At least show a little sechel.
	And sechel is Yiddish, I believe it's...
	Like backbone, I think.
	That's accept the truth and make the world a better place when you leave this world.
	At the very least, show a little self-respect.
	To Steve Mnuchin, Gary Cohn and other fellow Jews currently serving under this odious regime...
	We call upon you to resign, and to the president's lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, fire your client.
	To Sheldon Adelson and other fellow Jews still engaged in making the repugnant calculation that a hater of Arabs must be a lover of Jews, or that money trumps hate, or that a million dollars worth of access can protect you from one boot heel at the door, wise up.
	The government of Israel and our fellow Jews living there, wise up.
	To Jared Kushner, I'll sit Shiva for you.
	Try it out on your father.
	See how it goes.
	Among all the bleak and violent truths that found confirmation or came slouching into view amid the torchlight of Charlottesville is this.
	Any Jew, anywhere, who does not act to oppose President Donald Trump and his administration acts in favor of anti-Semitism.
	Any Jew who does not condemn the President directly and by name for his racism, white supremacism, intolerance, and Jew hatred condones all of those things.
	To our fellow Jews in North America and in Israel and around the world, what side are you on?
	Well, that was a bigoted, racist screed.
	And it's captured the attention from Black Lives Matter, basically.
	So that may be a plus.
	It's detracting it.
	Well, you know, we got problems with the Jews and the blacks.
	They got problems, too.
	Problems with that Jew.
	Sorry?
	Sorry.
	I said, there may be problems with that guy, that Jew.
	Of course.
	It's bullshit.
	I'm generalizing.
	People like this are ridiculous.
	I mean, they're divisive.
	That's a very divisive letter.
	That guy should be ashamed of himself for putting that out there.
	Sure.
	And let's take a look at Bannon.
	Bannon, for example.
	I have, now we know...
	There's a book that came out called Devil's Bargain by Joshua Green.
	It's supposedly one of the reasons, which I'll get into later, why Bannon was kicked out, even though I don't believe that's the case.
	Let's see.
	I have a thing here.
	Joshua Green on Bannon.
	I have one too many clips.
	Okay, this is a Bannon rundown.
	Bannon, Bannon, Bannon.
	Now this whole show is going to be like this.
	Steve Bannon in a nutshell.
	Now this is Josh Green who wrote the book, Devil's Bargain, which is subtitled Steve Bannon, Donald Trump and the Storming of the Presidency.
	He made a lot of assertions, but he talks a little bit about some of it on Charlie Rose.
	I caught this...kind of summary of Bannon I thought was really interesting.
	...power that Andrew Breitbart has.
	I can shape the world in a direction that will advance my political goals.
	And his political goal then was?
	His political goal has always been the same.
	It's to push for a kind of...
	It's a hard-right populist nationalism that is very much distinct from ordinary orthodox movement conservatism.
	Bannon's critique of that kind of conservatism essentially is that it's globalist, his great pejorative phrase.
	That it serves the interest of a kind of global financial class that is more interested in making money and sort of erasing national borders, tearing down cultural identities, than it is in serving the kind of ordinary, working class, blue-collar people that Bannon thinks is the backbone of the country and ought to be at the center of our politics.
	And Bannon's Prescription for how to do that essentially is to tear down the global free trade system, to close America's borders, to deport people who are here illegally, and to curb legal immigration as a way of privileging American citizens and reasserting a kind of a cultural identity.
	Is this different from what Pat Buchanan argued way back when in the A's?
	You know, I talked to Bennett about this.
	Six months, a year ago.
	I said, isn't he really your intellectual forebear?
	He said, well, yes and no.
	Yes, in the sense that he had kind of caught into the power of this kind of populism.
	And that Buchanan, like Steve Bannon, is a deeply traditional Catholic.
	But he said, the big difference is that Buchanan isn't enough of a Zionist.
	That's where he goes wrong.
	I am a big Zionist, and therefore, we really don't see eye to eye on those kinds of things.
	How does that fit in with this bull crap?
	He says he's a Zionist?
	A major league Zionist.
	That's why they cozied up to Netanyahu to an extreme.
	So Zionist is all about Israel.
	Zionism.
	Yeah.
	So how's this guy, this guy from Berkeley?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	And let me throw something else in which I've never been able to develop for this show, but I've been working on it, and then I dropped the ball.
	I never did it.
	It's like one of those many things I do that with.
	And one of them is that a BuzzFeed article that ran in, I think, around December of last year was a guy, one of the writers who discovered something and brought it up with some scandal he mentions in the article, and he's one of the staffers there, that Trump's a Jew.
	And if you start looking into the family, it's a good possibility that the Trump family was Jewish.
	Hey, you know what he should do?
	He should do a 23andMe swab and then come out and say, look at me!
	Look at me!
	I'm Askenazi Jew!
	Because that's always in there.
	There's always Askenazi Jew in there.
	Everybody's Askenazi Jew.
	He should do that.
	It goes right along with his tweeting yesterday.
	So the whole thing is these guys on Facebook are pathetic.
	I think more pathetic than that guy crying on his, which again, you know, why would you put a camera on yourself when you're just falling apart and you're trying to be a tough guy?
	Well, these are guys don't cry.
	These are different times from when we were growing up, John.
	Everyone puts everything on face bag these days.
	It doesn't matter what it is.
	If you can put your stupid breakfast on it, I don't know.
	But I'm telling you right now, we're in very dangerous waters now.
	This to me is much worse than we've had black and white issues in America from day one.
	Then I think we'll figure that out.
	But when the Jew card is being played this heavy-handed, and Mnuchin, oh my god, Mnuchin, here's what he wrote this morning.
	And this one I do have.
	He says, here we go, where's his letter?
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, you know, today's preparation is brought to you by something that's not working.
	Shit.
	Anyway, I'll get that too.
	Mnuchin says, hey, I stand by the president, and this is bullcrap.
	You don't have face bag, but just go take a look, or even on Twitter.
	Just search for Mnuchin.
	The hate is unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	He says, I find it hard to mention you don't run into it.
	I find it hard to believe I should have to defend myself on this or the president.
	I feel compelled to let you know the president in no way, shape or form believes that neo-Nazis and other hate groups who endorse violence are equivalent to groups who protest in peaceful and lawful ways.
	And then he goes on to say he's familiar with the culture wars being fought in our country and it's more complicated.
	We have been led to believe by the mass media.
	And Trump deserves the opportunity to propose his agenda without distraction.
	Of course, it's partially Mnuchin's agenda because he's the secretary.
	But I've seen some of this go down.
	John, this is where we're in a real danger zone.
	I don't think so.
	Oh, man.
	I suppose if you're hanging out on Facebag, you'd probably think that way, but...
	No, it has nothing to do with that.
	It seems to.
	Well, you're really in an interesting mood today.
	Because I've been catching memes and this kind of propaganda stuff...
	That is, I think, a little more sinister than this rant about Jews all should quit the Trump administration, like any of them will.
	Hey, John, I'm just bringing it to your attention.
	I'm not trying to be anything.
	I'm sorry, you're...
	Your shit's better.
	Well, hurry up then.
	No, no, it's not better.
	You say that and then you get so sullen.
	You go, oh my God, this is worse than anything I've ever seen.
	We're all in big trouble.
	That's not just bringing it to my attention.
	That's having an opinion about where it's leading.
	Okay.
	That's more than bringing it to my attention.
	That's for sure.
	Okay.
	You did this two shows ago too, by the way.
	Okay.
	Oh, last show you didn't.
	Are you keeping track?
	Yes.
	Yeah?
	You got a little check mark on every time I fuck up according to you?
	Carvings.
	Carvings.
	Very good.
	I have a knife and I carve it right into the wall here.
	All right.
	That's the...
	You hear the wall.
	Well, you know what, John?
	I'm just a little more in touch with reality and I'm sorry if sometimes it affects me.
	Then I have...
	You're in touch with Facebook.
	And I have an opinion.
	I have an opinion.
	Is that...
	Everything you've told me so far today on this show as we begin it has been reflections of Facebag.
	No, it's not reflections.
	You don't have Facebag.
	I read it and I'm telling you this is what is being written.
	This was posted on Facebag, not written on Facebag.
	And you yourself said it's a horrible screed.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	Right.
	But by that, I also mean I don't see it having a massive impact on the culture, and it's going to trigger a race war.
	Let me tell you something, John.
	Let me tell you something.
	You've never been targeted by, quote, the Jews for something you said.
	You fucking wait until it happens to you.
	Well, so now what is that supposed to mean?
	Because that's what happened to me.
	And I'm saying this is very bad, particularly with the way today's media is orchestrated or operates.
	You know, I'm telling you that this is not going to make things very good.
	And I can predict maybe what's going to happen, but it doesn't matter.
	Okay.
	No, it's okay.
	I'm affected by face bag.
	Fine.
	Let's see what you have to say for today.
	Well, it's got nothing to do with face bag.
	That's for sure.
	No, sure you don't.
	Okay, well, if you're going to let me change topics?
	Absolutely.
	Why talk about anything that doesn't seem like it's going to be bad?
	Let's move on to something fun.
	None of this is fun.
	I have to make a transition so it makes some sense.
	How about the ACLU member quits plus lecture and mayor of town?
	Okay.
	But as the deadly events in Charlottesville showed us, there's sometimes a thin line between permitting free speech and inciting violence.
	Today, Charlottesville's mayor said for the first time this Robert E. Lee statue should be removed, and he wants to ban people from carrying weapons at future rallies.
	I think we need to strike a new balance in this country between the First Amendment and public safety.
	Even the American Civil Liberties Union is grappling with its own role.
	Long known for siding with progressive causes, the group has also defended far-right groups in court, including the white nationalist protesters in Charlottesville.
	But a Virginia board member just resigned, tweeting, I won't be a fig leaf for Nazis.
	We believe that freedom of speech attaches to everyone in the U.S., to peacefully and lawfully assemble and to protest, even to groups we hate.
	Well, the lack of the Constitution in this conversation has been very apparent from day one.
	This story, which ran on network news, made it seem as though the ACLU is knuckling under to something or other.
	In fact, the ACLU, when I was a kid and throughout my entire life, were always condemned.
	Every so often, I remember when the Ku Klux Klan wanted to march through Skokie, which is a Jewish part of the Chicago area.
	And they had a permit to do it, and then they said, no, no, you can't do it.
	The ACLU came to their defense, and the Ku Klux Klan marched through Skokie.
	Of course, there was no counter-protest like there are today, so they just marched through, and then they left, and that was the end of it.
	Which is how it used to go.
	You just laugh at them.
	That's what we used to do.
	You laugh at them and let them walk around.
	That was always more effective, but that wasn't getting the coverage you're looking for.
	But the ACLU has been doing this forever.
	And this one guy who quit is just a weenie.
	And there was a discussion about the ACLU and how the older, the people that really run the ACLU are very established with the First Amendment rights.
	And it's the younger, young lawyers that come in and kind of work You know, part-time or whatever they do.
	They all have an agenda.
	It's always a left-wing agenda.
	And it's no surprise that one of them would quit over this, which is ludicrous because the ACLU does what it does.
	It's the American Civil Liberties Union.
	It's for civil liberties.
	And they take both sides of the argument all the time.
	Most of the time, and there goes the Zephyr, by the way, late.
	Very late.
	Most of the time, they take the size of progressives that, you know, are troublemakers and they...
	People try to keep them from marching or doing whatever they do.
	And so it looks like a liberal organization.
	It's not.
	Well, the only thing I know about ACLU... By the way, they're taking on Milo.
	The ACLU... I want to hear that in a minute.
	These are the people that called me.
	I think we played some of it on the show.
	Right before the show, and I recorded it.
	And that was anything but a balanced organization.
	It was anti-Trump all the way.
	You were talking to one of the low-level guys.
	Oh, sure.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's just a guy in a call center, but that is their missive.
	They're on the street.
	There's nothing.
	If you have that clip, you can play it again.
	No, but yes, that's what the debate is going on within the ACLU, because all these young little hot shots that come in, and they're the guys at the call centers.
	Yeah, sure, they hate Trump.
	I got it.
	Yes, I do.
	Oh, hold on.
	What is this?
	Who's calling me?
	Oh, this is good.
	Okay, let's do this.
	This happens all the time.
	Hello?
	I don't care.
	Who's calling?
	Who's calling?
	My name is Watashi.
	My name is Watashi Davis calling from Donor Services Group.
	We're calling on behalf of the ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union.
	Oh, I see what's happening.
	Notice Donor Services Group is not the ACLU. Did you hear that?
	Yeah.
	This is some other group that was doing it.
	There's a guy named Ratashi.
	Well, he's in India.
	We want to say thank you, first of all, for your support Yeah, I'm very disappointed with what I'm saying.
	I didn't expect ACLU to be such douchebags.
	I didn't expect you to do what you did with the...
	Oh, that was when they organized the protests at the airports?
	Right.
	You organized protests.
	No, we're not getting protests against our civil liberties.
	Okay, Trump wants to undermine all our progress that we've made, so we're out there trying to protest against that.
	Yeah, but I don't like the ACLU organizing protests at airports.
	That's not cool.
	Well, they're trying to take away a lot of different liberties that we have.
	And just went downhill from there.
	But, yeah, okay, so they're just contracting.
	That's why.
	But that's, yeah.
	Of course, they're just a bunch of lawyers, and they're doing what they're supposed to do, I think.
	Well, they've been doing this for a long time now.
	Apparently, they've contacted Milo.
	I don't have that.
	I had a clip.
	I didn't make a clip.
	Sorry.
	They contacted Milo about some...
	Something about his book or the fact that they wouldn't put it somewhere else.
	Well, we already had a virtual book burning with Milo, didn't we?
	His book just kind of got cancelled.
	Yes, by Simon& Schuster and then he self-published it.
	Now it's a number three bestseller or something like that on the New York Times list.
	Oh, that's fantastic.
	I didn't realize that.
	Yes, it's making money hand over fist.
	No.
	Yes.
	Damn.
	Well, particularly if he's self-published, I guess.
	You make a lot of extra money if you're self-published.
	You only have to sell half as many books.
	And he, of course, he claims he made a million dollars in the first month, which I doubt.
	I doubt that, yeah.
	But whatever the case, he has been blackballed.
	And so the ACLU apparently contacted him for some legal action activity.
	And he's very...
	On this little interview that went on forever, he says that he doesn't like the ACLU, but in this case, he likes them.
	Which, of course, is different.
	Makes sense.
	Well, we also have, John, I'll just interject this, we have the Southern Poverty Law Center, who have also, they've interjected themselves into this.
	It was almost, my mouth was agape when Chris Matthews started to question Alicia Brooks from the Southern Poverty Law Center about Antifa and When we're talking about the Antifa crowd, what are they really?
	I know their name is anti-fascist.
	Do they only go after fascists or do they go after anybody, say, in the global economic community they don't like?
	No.
	They are strictly principled anti-fascists.
	And what they see in the Trump administration and what they see happening in this country, they see the neo-fascism that we see.
	And they've taken a principled stand to stand against white supremacists and white nationalists wherever they may show up.
	I'd like to point out that Antifa at Charlottesville protected peaceful protesters.
	I don't know what President Trump was talking about.
	Who are waving the clubs on that side?
	They were protecting themselves.
	Well, there was one group that was jumping in and punching the...
	I couldn't believe...
	Matthews is going to wind up on RT if he continues this kind of talk.
	This is not acceptable.
	This is not the narrative, Chris.
	Punching the Nazi types.
	I've seen a lot of pictures like you have, and I've seen people reaching and slugging them.
	Who are those people?
	Yes, but...
	They may have been part of Antifa.
	I think they're opposed to globalization as well.
	I couldn't say I'm not an expert on Antifa's.
	Let me also say, because I think it has to be said, that Antifa would not be there if it weren't for the white supremacists calling that out.
	Antifa doesn't engage in Occupy-type behavior against global meetings, for example, business leaders.
	They don't go after institutions that are not fascist.
	They were in Charlottesville to stand against white supremacists.
	But that's not what we're talking about, Chris.
	No, I'm talking about this.
	I want to I'm trying to get the truth here.
	I predict a very short career from Mr.
	Matthews with this.
	Did you hear the comment where she said that they were calling for the race war?
	No, I didn't hear that.
	Shoot.
	Was it right in that last bit there where they were talking?
	It was probably...
	I was going to stop it, but then it went on a lot longer, so it's about halfway through.
	Okay, let's listen again.
	That's good.
	Charlottesville protected peaceful protesters.
	I don't know what President Trump was talking about.
	Who were waving the clubs on that side?
	I mean, I looked at pictures of people jumping in.
	Well, there was one group that was jumping in and punching the Nazi types.
	I've seen a lot of pictures like you have, and I've seen people reaching and slugging them.
	Who are those people?
	They may have been part of Antifa.
	I think they're opposed to globalization as well.
	I couldn't say I'm not an expert on Antifa's.
	Let me also say, because I think it has to be said, that Antifa would not be there if it weren't for the white supremacists calling that rally.
	So Antifa never goes to Antifa.
	Calling for the race war?
	Is that what she said?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	The race war.
	So that's in her head.
	So apparently that meet-up was calling for the race war.
	Not a race war, but the race war.
	Then it's in your mind.
	Then you're already all over that.
	Good catch.
	That's very disturbing.
	Southern Poverty Law Center.
	If they didn't have so much money, I'd laugh at them.
	But holy crap are they funded.
	Hundreds of millions of dollars they've got.
	That's really quite incredible.
	I didn't clip it, but you probably saw it.
	Tucker had some guy on who was organizing some alt-right speech thing, and he was brown.
	And yet Nancy Pelosi said, oh, we've got to cancel this rally because it's white supremacists.
	Well, there's a couple of things going on that I picked up on.
	A meme.
	In particular, the meme that Trump doesn't like to be upstaged.
	This is fairly new, but it's showing up everywhere, and they're doing a pretty good job of promoting it.
	And the other meme that I picked up on is that That was started, I thought it was just a joke, and the right-wing talkers were all over.
	This is where Wolf Blitzer says that the event in...
	I have the clip.
	Oh, please play it.
	Yeah, hold on a second.
	It was under...
	Yes, here we go.
	Where's Brolf?
	Let me just look up Brolf.
	And by the way, I will say that there was two people on CNN. Well, it was Jim Sciuto was the guy who says more.
	of it.
	Brolf got the brunt of the blame, but it was really Sciuto, whatever his name is, who said it.
	Not just Spanish authorities, but US authorities have been aware of it.
	The final point I would make, Wolf, is just this note.
	In light of the uproar of the last couple days, five days apart, you have white supremacists in Charlottesville using a vehicle to kill, and here you have attackers, at least following the modus operandi of terrorists, using vehicles, apparently, to kill as well.
	And those shared tactics that should be alarming.
	Yeah, and there will be questions about copycats.
	There will be questions if what happened in Barcelona was at all, at all, a copycat version of what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia, even though there may be different characters, different political ambitions.
	They use the same killing device, a vehicle going at high speed into a group, a large group of pedestrians.
	And as the local police are saying, at least...
	Sorry, yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm glad you got that clip because I didn't get that clip in time.
	I didn't discover the meme in time to get that clip.
	Yeah, it's Trump's fault.
	It's all Trump's fault.
	That's the idea.
	No, that's not what the meme is.
	It's some sort of transference.
	And it's CIA-based because Fran Townsend has something to say about it.
	But let's go back and watch the genesis of this.
	First, this crazy discussion that you heard, and you copied, luckily, started the right-wing talkers all went crazy.
	Really?
	Yeah, they're all over this.
	Oh, this is terrible.
	This guy's an idiot.
	And you're right, they were targeting Blitzer more than anybody.
	They hate him.
	And so they're going after him.
	And so then I'm thinking, oh, this is crazy.
	This is dumb.
	That's what my first initial thing was.
	Then I realized it's some sort of it's some sort of a message from the intelligence community that they're trying to get.
	And I say that because Fran Townsend, who we know, and she was actually working for Flynn under the Trump administration.
	She's like a spooky type woman.
	And she was on Charlie Rose.
	And before I play this this clip, I want to mention something about her style.
	Can you imagine us doing the show where every time I say anything, it's Adam.
	I was I got this clip.
	And I'll tell you what, Adam, I did this, and you know what else, Adam?
	Well, I know that you dislike it very much when I say John.
	Yes.
	I know you do.
	Because who else are you talking to?
	I mean, is there somebody else in the room?
	But she does it with Charlie like it's like, well, Charlie, the way I see it, Charlie, the thing is, Charlie, I've gotten this Charlie, and it's just like, it's like hypnotic, and I find it to be extremely annoying.
	Now, she does it to an extreme, and you don't hear so much because this is a short clip, but this is the clip that triggered me.
	To start listening for something's up.
	This is the Spanish connection.
	Aaron Townsend, not the two.
	Somebody's picked up the weapon to stop them.
	Why has the United States been successful?
	How have they been successful in avoiding significant attacks like this in our cities and in our concert halls?
	You know, it's interesting, Charlie.
	Look, there's no doubt in my mind that Charlottesville is domestic terrorism.
	I think if you're prepared to label Barcelona, where a non-government actor targets a civilian population with violence for a political aim, if you're willing to label Barcelona as terrorism, then we ought to be willing to confront the fact that when a white supremacist or neo-Nazi does the exact same thing, that's terrorism, too.
	Okay, well, I know what's going on, then.
	That's easy.
	You can impeach the president if he's colluding with terrorists, foreign or domestic, as high crimes and misdemeanor.
	Yeah, well, they're not going to get anywhere with that argument.
	But let's go on.
	They can roll with it until 2018.
	I don't think it's going to have any legs.
	I just find it interesting that they're trying to do something like this.
	Because, I mean, the blowback that Wolf Blitzer got from the right-wing talkers is unbelievable.
	And I'm sure that if these guys would listen to this stuff, they would feel the same way.
	But I have one more example of it.
	But before we do that, and what makes me pretty confused, I'm convinced that this was planted, and I think Charlie even asked the question to get this response.
	And when Charlie asked the question, he put something in there, which I thought was like, you know, he said concert halls.
	I think that's like a clue that we're going to see that.
	We have a rock concert.
	Coachella, which seems like probably a good place to do.
	Oh my God, could you imagine a massive fight breaking out at Coachella?
	Yeah.
	I can already see the drone footage.
	Epic!
	It would be great.
	Anyway, so now Fran was...
	I'm sorry, you need to put that in the book, my friend.
	Okay, I'll put it in the book.
	Fight at Coachella.
	Yeah.
	Which is also a good name for a novel.
	Anyway, so let's get back to this.
	So now Fran, I believe, was told to drop this bomb on Charlie's show.
	And this show that we're talking about, this is his interview, but he promotes this on this show called This Week.
	It's an hour-long piece of propaganda that runs on PBS, and I'll point out some more propagandistic stuff that came out that really got to me.
	But...
	I want you to listen to this is the end of that last clip and then continuing when she tries to explain herself even more.
	And she manages to worm her way out of the explanation into some other topic because she really has no legs to stand on with this argument that the one crazy guy was probably insane that drove the car into the crowd.
	Is the same as a group of kids in Barcelona who plan to blow up the place and drive and kill people with advanced knowledge.
	There's no comparison between the two.
	So she's going to try to explain it and watch the way she worms her way out of it.
	We confront the fact that when a white supremacist or neo-Nazi does the exact same thing, that's terrorism too.
	Mostly in the context of the United States, when you have these sorts of protests, you give a permit to one group and then a counter group wants a permit.
	Here in New York, for example, the police take precautions to keep them separate.
	They put barricades up between them to try and prevent that sort of violence.
	I don't have any doubt that authorities in Charlottesville are going to look back and say, were there things we could have or should have done to prevent it?
	But do most people in your field say it is surprising that we have not had an attack in the United States?
	Oh, man.
	Damn it.
	You know, I also saw that the president was going to be in Camp David and Pence cut his trip short by a day.
	All of that spells bad news to me.
	How about, um, is, uh, what's the stupid thing in the desert called?
	Uh...
	Coachella.
	No, no, no, the other one.
	Oh, Burning Man.
	Burning Man.
	That's this week, isn't it?
	I don't know when it is.
	No, that wouldn't be good.
	That wouldn't be good.
	And there's no...
	No, no, no.
	I got the one final clip that just closed the deal for me.
	This is local news Fox, KTVU. And they're talking about the Spanish...
	I want you to...
	You can listen to this clip straight up.
	And this is the clip called...
	Spanish Connection.
	Spanish Connection, KTVU. You can listen to this clip straight up and you'll spot this.
	And I think only you'll spot this because we've been talking about it.
	You'll spot it.
	And I don't know how many people who actually watched this spotted it.
	But just listen to this clip and tell me what's wrong with this picture.
	Suspects have been arrested.
	Five terror suspects who could have also been linked to those attacks died in a shootout with police.
	Now today, protesters packed the streets of Las Ramblas.
	Videos showing one man getting punched in the face, his nose dripping with blood.
	Tensions between the far-right activists and the anti-fascist marchers were so high that police in riot gear had to separate the groups as violence escalated.
	They're completely putting the two together, just like Charlottesville, even though it's two separate incidents, completely separate incidents.
	There's no Antifa in Barcelona.
	There's no...
	What was the other one she said that was the other side of the group, protesters?
	It's bullcrap.
	And there was nobody, and they showed no indication that the police were separating two groups.
	It was some guy punching some guy.
	For some reason, we don't know.
	Yeah.
	But what is that about?
	This is from Press TV. Of course, pay for our show.
	No, that's Iranian.
	I'm sorry, I thought it was Russian.
	Rival protesters argue amid counter-demonstrations in Barcelona August 18.
	Scuffles broke out between far-right anti-Islam protesters.
	And that wasn't mentioned in the American report.
	There was no anti-Islam anything.
	No, no.
	And this is...
	Well, yeah, press TV, so take from it what you want.
	Far-right anti-Islam protesters and anti-fascist activists during counter-demonstrations held in the Spanish city of Barcelona.
	That may have happened.
	But I think it's questionable.
	It wasn't like there was some crazy protester who hopped in the van and then went to kill everybody.
	Absolutely not.
	No, I agree.
	This is very, very nefarious.
	It's nefarious.
	That's the perfect word.
	This is very nefarious.
	Yeah.
	And here's another one.
	Last one.
	I have one more Spanish clip since we're there.
	This was kind of interesting.
	And I will say, by the way, Antifa is everywhere now.
	They're in the Netherlands doing the same thing.
	Being a-holes.
	Being total a-holes.
	Does Soros come to mind?
	Of course he comes to mind.
	It's paid for.
	They got signs.
	Before you move on...
	Because I think it passed by in the chat room, where does the name Southern Poverty Law Center come from?
	We never really talked about that.
	And that's not even their original name.
	It used to be the Student Press Law Center.
	How about that?
	I didn't know this.
	But in their own documents, they don't explain the name change.
	Well, it's about southern poverty.
	Please, please.
	They were a book outfit.
	Now they're about poverty?
	Okay.
	Fine.
	This is another one.
	There was a couple of reports that showed up about the Barcelona situation that said, oh, this was in the makings for 10 years.
	Did you catch this one?
	No.
	What is this?
	Well, this is annoying to me because it couldn't have been in the process for 10 years because one of the kids was 17.
	These were a bunch of youths.
	Youths?
	Youths.
	And here's the Spain Attacks Youth Show.
	This is NBC, I believe.
	Las Ramblas briefly shows the van careening by, even slowed down.
	It gives a sense of the speed at which it was traveling.
	Were you surprised that an attack like this could happen in Spain?
	No.
	Why not?
	Because it's very easy to do this attack.
	And Tony Sayura, an international affairs professor at the University of Barcelona, was taken aback by something else.
	There is one 17 years old.
	This is a baby.
	That 17-year-old is Moussa Ocabir, seen in a leaked police document which reveals the other suspected babyfaces of terror in Spain.
	Despite saying they were making progress on the investigation and determining not to raise the threat level, today Spain's interior minister said that they would be stepping up security at sensitive sites and places popular with tourists.
	No, no.
	Yes.
	I have a question since the media is all over this supposedly.
	How come they haven't tracked down the parents of these kids?
	Very good.
	Very good question.
	They track down the parents of everybody, usually.
	I mean, you have the crying parents of the dead person, you have the parents of the terrorists here and there.
	There's no mention of the parents of these four living, the four of the guys they caught alive, which they think is one of the reasons they caught that other event that took place down further south.
	But where's the parents?
	Where's the parents of any of these kids?
	They're all identified.
	Well, Forget that.
	If you just look at the US media, I don't think there was a single report about the knife terror attack in Finland.
	No, there was.
	NBC Nightly News had it.
	Very little.
	Was it?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I didn't watch that.
	Yeah, it was not just a quick report.
	It was they went there and they had a man on the street and they talked about it.
	You know what the answer is?
	They didn't do the one about the Siberian stabbing.
	No, no, didn't do that one.
	But you know what the answer is for Finland?
	You know what their leader has said?
	I have it here.
	I already know it's going to be funny.
	This is the Turku victims.
	Yeah, no, it's very obvious.
	We need more surveillance.
	We need more surveillance of the internet.
	That was his answer.
	Even though this was a whacked out migrant from Morocco.
	Yeah.
	He was frustrated, obviously.
	He was completely frustrated.
	Whatever happened, whatever went wrong, and then he was shouting, I'll do a snack bar, and then going and stabbing people.
	This is problematic.
	I got a meme from the other side that these are the things that never, ever, ever, ever work.
	It doesn't work, people, to say...
	Well, you know, but when Obama was president, when Bush was president, none of that works.
	It's lame.
	But the latest is, you know, is really trying to bring to the forefront the friendship between the Clintons and the KKK. And this is very good.
	So this is the three sequence of clips you'll see posted everywhere.
	First, we need to remind everybody Hillary is good friends with...
	Was he...
	Robert Byrd.
	Yes.
	Was he a senator?
	He was a senator from West Virginia.
	So here's the first one.
	Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Byrd.
	Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility.
	Robert C. Byrd left such a legacy.
	Yes.
	And C stands for Klan.
	Or as Bill Clinton says, Klu Klux Klan, because you'll hear that in a moment.
	Here's Robert Byrd on the interview that kind of put him on the map as a Klansman.
	Race relations.
	They're much, much better than they've ever been in my lifetime.
	I think we, this is my personal opinion, I think we talk about race too much.
	My old mom told me, Robert, You can't go to heaven if you hate anybody.
	We practice that.
	There are white niggers.
	I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time.
	I'm going to use that word.
	We just need to work together to make our country better.
	I'm not quite sure what he meant by there are white niggers.
	Do you know in historical context what the heck he's talking about?
	I have no idea what he's talking about.
	There's all kinds of crazy things he said that you can find on the YouTubes.
	But this is the best then.
	So this is Bill Clinton's eulogy for Hillary Clinton's mentor, the guy who knows lots of white niggers.
	There are a lot of people who wrote these eulogies for Senator Burr in the newspapers, and I read a bunch of them, and they mentioned that he once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan, and what does that mean?
	I'll tell you what it means.
	He was a country boy from the hills and hollows of West Virginia.
	He was trying to get elected.
	And maybe he did something he shouldn't have done, and he spent the rest of his life making it up.
	And that's what a good person does.
	There are no perfect people.
	There are certainly no perfect politicians.
	Yes, yes, wise words, Bill.
	Died.
	Huh?
	He died in 2010.
	He died in 2010.
	That's when that took place.
	Yes.
	All along, I believe, if we listen to...
	That didn't come up in the conversation when Hillary was given the eulogy.
	It was brought into it.
	Just off the top of my head, I think you'd agree with this.
	It is that all along, since it was known that Hillary was going to run, Bill has been sabotaging her.
	Hmm.
	I think that was a sabotage move, just to make it so she, you know, because she goes on and on.
	So really, what you're saying, Bill is reaching out for help?
	Bill never wanted her to be president.
	Wow.
	He'd be the first man.
	It's kind of a demeaning role.
	It's just like, it's just, he never wanted her to be president.
	I think he, I think we could, if we sat down and started documenting it, we could make the point that he was sabotaging her all the way.
	That's an interesting point.
	Yeah, I think that's an interesting point.
	But I noticed also that if you just put the name news after your show, you can be a source for NBC. And I think we should consider this.
	Well, Jackson, who's next?
	Washington?
	Jefferson?
	So foolish.
	I think there's blame on both sides.
	The country's only Republican African-American senator interviewed by Vice News about the president's performance this week.
	Vice News.
	Ha ha ha.
	We need to call ourselves No Agenda Show News.
	Yeah.
	I think you need to stick in news after that.
	You, more than me, have talked about the idea of doing just one study, you know, and associating with it, and then passing it around as fact.
	See what happens.
	Well, so I got another...
	The other meme I was kind of caught...
	Is this upstage meme, which I've never heard.
	I don't know that you've heard it.
	Maybe you have.
	I don't notice.
	Trump doesn't like being upstaged.
	Yeah, we always knew he had a thin skin, which I thought would still work.
	I thought that was an invention, I believe, of Warren, Elizabeth Warren, or someone, but she picked it up and she did the best job of harping on it.
	I don't think that the Democrats have done a very good job of using that, because it's really...
	To me, I think it's one of the really great insults that you can throw at somebody.
	It means they can't, you know, they can put it out, but they can dish it out, but they can't take it.
	Right, right, right.
	That's what it says.
	But they dropped the ball on that.
	Now they've got this new meme, which they're trying to promote.
	And I just picked up on it because they're trying to promote it, and it's like...
	I have a series of clips about Bannon, and we can either take a break now.
	Well, yeah.
	Can you finish this, and we'll go into Bannon after the break?
	I think we can go into Bannon after the break.
	Okay, well then let's do a little intermezzo.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	Seek and say that he's KKK, and he shouts and seek hail with it.
	Wow.
	That, by the way, I think is one of the best ones we have at the moment.
	That's gold!
	We also have the Summer of Resistance, if you're interested.
	I'm always interested.
	It's a little...
	Yeah, here we go.
	I think you might enjoy this.
	Here we go.
	Summer of resistance in America.
	Riots between alt-right and antifa.
	It's from the No Agenda musical, which I'll be playing later for you.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. I had no C stands for today.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also, it's the ships of the sea and the buns in the air and the feet in the air and the subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to everybody in the chat room and, of course, everybody who helps us out at the No Agenda Art Generator.
	I want to thank our artist for episode 9 or 5, 6.
	Identitarian, the title of that.
	Very good piece of art.
	This was done by Gaston Garcia.
	This is the road signs, exit alt left, exit alt right.
	There were people from my past who don't listen to the show.
	Believe me, they don't listen to the show.
	Who were like, wow, that's a great piece of art.
	Because it posted on Twitter and Facebook.
	I always post the artwork.
	This one hit a nerve.
	People liked it.
	Especially with the scream emoji in the middle.
	It was very good.
	We appreciate that, Gaston, and thank you to all of our artists.
	Noagentartjournal.com is where you can upload.
	We always choose right after the show.
	And we have a couple of people to think.
	I saw your newsletter go out, giving people an opportunity to become an executive producer for today's show.
	Yes, that was effective for two people.
	Okay.
	Which was actually better than no people.
	Yes.
	Because we weren't getting any...
	Executive producers recently, we didn't get any, except for we went to the train museum.
	I mean, that kind of made it look twisted, but generally speaking, we've been doing not as well as we should in that regard.
	And the instant nights, we did kind of dry it up.
	Oh, okay.
	So I did that.
	But we do have two.
	Sir Roger Boots at the top of the list from Mechanicsville, Iowa, $333.
	It just says Sir Roger Boots here.
	I wonder if he sent an email in.
	I don't recall anything coming in.
	Let's go Boots.
	He's Boots on the ground, by the way.
	Yes, he is.
	No, I have nothing for Mr.
	Boots.
	Boots.
	Boots is also a chain of...
	Stores in England.
	Drug stores.
	Yes.
	Which I think, but now partner with Walgreen or something.
	I think they own them.
	David Vaughn.
	Anyway, Sir Roger, thanks.
	We'll give him a...
	Well, I'm going to give him a Karma.
	Even though he's a Karma.
	We don't know what he wanted.
	We'll give him that.
	You've got Karma.
	David Van Sunder in Pacific Grove, California, 333 is our other executive producer.
	I wanted to thank you both for the No Agenda Karma you gave me back in November when we were both faced with being forced to move our physical therapy clinic.
	It paid off.
	We ended up with a much better, bigger place and the best location in town.
	Plus, the karma ended a drought of good job conditions that allowed us to hire two great new people to join our team.
	They are awesome.
	Now that things are firing on all cylinders, I want to thank you both for the karma and the continued doses of sanity amidst the insanity permeating our country right now.
	Here's a small example.
	My wife was called to jury duty on Monday when she went in.
	The judge told everyone that, quote, with this administration, it is more important than ever that they serve.
	Whatever that means.
	Apparently, she would have been able to write to write some great injustice perpetrated by Trump at the Monterey County level.
	Wow.
	Luckily she was left off.
	And the judge said that?
	Yeah, this is really bad.
	This judge can't preside over a case then?
	I think the judge should quit.
	Gee.
	Obviously, in advance of this donation, I've been meaning to make.
	Luckily, she was left off, obviously, in advance of this donation.
	Okay.
	I've got a karma.
	More karma.
	It seems like it works for them.
	You've got karma.
	Hand it out.
	We're dishing it out today.
	Sir Fish, $201.50 will be our associate executive producer.
	He says, more amygdala references each day.
	Heard it first on No Agenda.
	Good work, boys.
	What's new today?
	Sir Fish.
	Mark Halb.
	$201, I'm sorry, $200.31 is in Cedar Rapids, and I believe he probably does have a mail.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	M-H-E-L-B-E. You know, some of the searches are weird in, okay, here it is, in squirrel mail.
	You don't say.
	Yeah, the searches in squirrel mail aren't that great anymore compared to modern technology.
	Yeah.
	John, I make this donation because he means John and Adam, but he sent it to me.
	I make this donation as a birthday greeting to my fantastic conservative son, Michael Helby.
	John screwed it up last time.
	I won't screw it up again, Helby.
	Not sure where he is with his knighthood.
	I'll let him figure that out.
	Okay, so this is a birthday thing.
	I guess it would be Michael's donation.
	He celebrates his 31st birthday tomorrow.
	He's been a long-time supporter of Noah Jennings.
	I'm thankful to both of you for your hard work and unique format that provides deconstructed news that allows him to think for himself.
	He's the best son on earth.
	Please start a no agenda.
	This, by the way, is not the first guy who said this.
	We tried to make the meetups kind of like this, but it's not, you know, I don't know if we can go any further.
	Please start a no agenda dating service so he can find a nice conservative girl.
	Not enough well-informed millennial ladies to choose from.
	I'm an overbearing father and I want him to get married and provide me with more grandchildren.
	Please wish him a happy birthday from mom and dad.
	Well, why don't you send a picture and we'll see if he qualifies for our dating club.
	We have very strict rules to admission.
	You've got to have something very wrong with you.
	Tourette's helps.
	You know, disfigured, disformed.
	Anything odd would be perfect.
	Yeah, small head.
	Small head.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Send a picture.
	So I guess we can give him, what do you think, some karma?
	Karma, of course, and he's on the birthday list, so we'll get to that in a moment later on.
	You've got karma.
	And on our list, we got the last, our last, we don't have a lot today.
	Our last associate executive producer is, I actually have a note from him, he's $200 even.
	And if I can just open the right, click on the right thing.
	Rick Ren.
	Oh, it says something very different.
	Yeah, it's got some crazy Japanese name.
	And he has sent two notes, actually.
	Let me open one of them, and then I'll open the other one.
	In separate tabs.
	Hey John and Adam, not sure how this works, but I donated $200 for the first time through PayPal and couldn't find a place to leave my message.
	So here it is.
	If you get this message, then great.
	A proper dedouching is in order.
	And we have it.
	You've been dedouched.
	Having listened to the show for about six months, I find your show to be the lighthouse in the perilous sea of M5M monsters.
	As a Chinese-born transplant in the great state of Florida, I grew up under state propaganda, dreaming about a free press when I arrived in the States years ago, only to find it even worse and more deceptive under the guise of objectivity.
	And I'm assuming he means by comparison to the Chinese media.
	Holy crap.
	Your show provides very valuable analysis into their techniques, and I got a beauty coming up, by the way, to which this connoisseur of fine propaganda greatly appreciates.
	However, I still cross-check sources just like I did before.
	In other words, you're not trusting us.
	If you don't know about this, there has been a huge, huge supporter base in China for Trump.
	Really?
	I didn't know this.
	I remember the Wall Street Journal even wrote about this.
	We Chinese folks all know about state propaganda too well and really admire Trump's outspokenness.
	Interesting.
	Yes.
	I will agree.
	The president says one thing consistently, and it's the reason for this show.
	I think we agree that the media, M5M, is the true enemy of the state.
	They are the enemy.
	I'm not going to make the argument, although we did pick up on it before Trump got here.
	No, because 10 years ago, this is what we started doing.
	This is the whole point.
	You know, the more I think about it, looking back on things, I think we could have done this 20 years ago.
	At any time, probably.
	I don't think it is...
	Well, this is a good point, because Tina said to me yesterday, when I had my girls, I wasn't paying attention.
	I'd watch the Today Show.
	I wanted my girls to be safe, and I wanted them to grow up to be outstanding women.
	And now she has more time.
	Sad for her.
	She's with me.
	Then you get, of course, exposed to all this stuff.
	He says it wasn't like this.
	He says, yeah, it's always been this way.
	This goes back to, well, from what I know, you know better than I, but yellow journalism.
	We had, you know, people like the Jeff Bezos of the day who had all the newspapers and would write there, you know, to their...
	So he got into Spanish-American War, got from Hearst.
	That's why we attacked Puerto Rico.
	Was that Hearst because he needed the paper or something?
	The actual paper stock?
	No, there was some reason.
	Did it have to do with the Mexicans are all crazy on weed?
	Or is that a different period?
	No, that's a different one.
	That had to do with...
	With Pulp.
	Pulp, yeah, okay, wrong time.
	That's a different one, but all the news media guys have been like this.
	It was a little more balanced, maybe, but maybe not.
	I remember, all I know is when the TV, it's really the TV networks that started killing the newspapers.
	Yeah, that changed it all.
	And when those guys came in and they were promoting, if you start looking back on it, the Today Show or any of these shows, you didn't see it as much as you do today, where all they're doing is promoting entertainment.
	Yeah, other entertainment products that they own, yeah.
	Yeah, they own the entertainment products, so they promote those.
	And they want everyone to be happy and go to Disneyland.
	Spend a lot of money.
	You'll be happy.
	Go to Disneyland.
	Spend money.
	Go to a movie.
	There's a lot of movies out there.
	All good.
	Go watch one.
	Netflix has tons of great comedy specials.
	Just watch all that.
	It'll be okay.
	Yeah.
	So they're not doing their job is the only way to summarize it.
	Correct, correct, correct.
	Anyway, I get back to his note.
	I hope this donation signifies a good start of a good relationship and probably in the future.
	Too bad I can't come to the meet-up in Sacramento.
	I have been to the Railroad Museum in 08 and loved it.
	Lastly, as a polyglot, of course, I find Adam's occasional Dutch sentences very interesting.
	Hmm.
	Dutch mini lessons.
	If I'm eligible for jingles, I'm going to let you get you guys amakase it.
	What?
	I'm going to let you guys amakase.
	It looks like A-M-A-K-A-S-E. Something is in italic, so it's in Chinese.
	I don't know.
	Amakase?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Oh, and by the way, then he said the second note just says, I forgot to ask for job karma.
	Okay.
	That we can do.
	Jobs, karma is no problem.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And that concludes our...
	I do have a make good for one of our people.
	I want to read it.
	Sarah?
	Yeah, you've got the Sarah note.
	Okay, I'm going to read it.
	I'm resending this note.
	It's supposed to be read of the executive producer from 817.
	I really like the relationship karma, so we can do that.
	Could you please read on the next show?
	Thank you for nearly 10 years of sanity, saving content and sanity saving.
	Thank you for...
	Way to go.
	My cold reads.
	It's an art.
	It does diminish.
	It's not...
	Well...
	Thank you for nearly 10 years of sanity-saving content and entertainment.
	I've been listening since the first episode with my estimations.
	This brings me to Baroness.
	I am a poor archivist and PayPal only goes back to 2014.
	If possible, I'd like to request a protectorate of Sonoma County.
	And she needs a very strong dose of relationship karma.
	I am really ready to meet a keeper.
	Oh, I get it.
	Could you and Adam pull a couple of old jingles from the vault that we haven't played in a while?
	Just grab some random ones from the vault.
	Oh, I thought she had a list of stuff.
	No.
	Oh, just old?
	Okay.
	Just a couple of old ones that we haven't heard.
	All right, so what I'll do is I'll just do no search term, and let's go back.
	This will be totally random.
	It's never going to work.
	No, I don't know what they all are.
	Just play one.
	Just click it.
	Yeah, but when you do that, there's a lot of different stuff that is clips and it's not necessarily a jingle.
	I don't know exactly, but okay, I'll try one.
	Well, wait.
	Can I ask you to give you another variable?
	Okay.
	It would generally be very small in size.
	Yes.
	Yeah, let me just grep that, John.
	Hold on.
	Let me grep to find out exactly what I need to do here.
	We can do this one.
	You are fake news.
	You've got karma.
	I just did something.
	I forgot the nyet nyet one.
	Nyet nyet nyet nyet.
	What was that from?
	That's Rosie O'Donnell.
	Oh, right.
	But we have the nyet with music, with the groove, with Hitler.
	We got the whole thing.
	I love that one, too.
	It's so, so violent.
	We got one more make good note I'm going to read.
	This is from Derby Dyke.
	Oh.
	Now, just last show, it looks like I got my donation.
	Did not get to note our local cactus is the cigarro.
	I would like to...
	My name changed.
	I don't know if it's on the list.
	I may have put it on there.
	Derby Dyke, Sir Warro of the Southwest.
	Now, he makes a point.
	He says, I'm a guy.
	You keep calling me a woman.
	I was thinking about that because nobody knows what the name Derby, D-E-R-B-E. I think it's because his last name is Dyke.
	Ah, yes.
	It's subtle.
	It's associative.
	You associate.
	And so the first thing you think of is a woman because you don't see too many men dykes.
	I personally feel it's a microaggression to call us out like that because if you have a preferred pronoun and a preferred gender, you need to tell us that.
	You have responsibility too.
	He probably has.
	Probably many times.
	Many times.
	I'm a dude!
	And we're just like, what?
	I'm a dude.
	Whatever.
	All right.
	Well, thank you all very much.
	And thank you, John, for bringing those little make goods in here that's absolutely deserved.
	These are our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	A short list today.
	Luckily, we have people to thank later up coming on when we do our second donation segment.
	And remember, these credits are to be used anywhere.
	Credits are accepted.
	And we have another show coming up on Thursday.
	Please remember us at Dvorak.org.
	Slash N-A. If you're going out there for your freedom of speech rally, try the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	No service for you!
	Shut up!
	Shut up!
	There we go.
	I just want to play just two little fun clips, John, just from crazy stuff that I picked up off of.
	See, one is from Fox and one is from CNN. Angela Rye on CNN. She is not on board with the Jew meme or the all-terrorist acts with vans are Trump's fault meme.
	It's a good one, though.
	She really is all about the statues, of course.
	Yes, this is it.
	You remember Angela Rice?
	She was a staffer for the Black Caucus.
	George Washington was a slave owner, and we need to call slave owners out for what they are.
	Whether we think they were protecting American freedom or not, he wasn't protecting my freedom.
	I wasn't someone who my ancestors weren't deemed human beings to him.
	And so to me, I don't care if it's a George Washington statue or a Thomas Jefferson statue or a Robert E. Lee statue.
	They all need to come down.
	She omits Lincoln, though, and I find that odd.
	Yeah.
	I think I mentioned this.
	No, no, no.
	I'll tell you.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You had the line of the decade after the show about the Lincoln Memorial.
	Because I told you, I said, I think that thing's going to get defaced or something's going to happen.
	And you had a great idea.
	Yeah.
	In fact, I tweeted it.
	You put a Hitler mustache on it.
	Yes.
	With a magic wand.
	You have to climb up there.
	You can get up there.
	With a can of spray paint.
	No, how about just a Sharpie?
	Can't you just do it with a Sharpie?
	A Sharpie.
	Sharpie's much better.
	And it also, the worst part is it'll stain the marble and kind of ruin it.
	I think that is a great idea.
	A little Hitler mustache on Abe Lincoln.
	But he had slaves, I think.
	Didn't Lincoln have slaves?
	No.
	Well, then it'll never happen.
	We can always put a mustache on George Washington.
	I don't think any of the Republicans in that era had slaves.
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	George Washington and Jefferson and Adams and those guys, they're susceptible to this sort of complaint.
	Yeah.
	Although it's dubious.
	But I'm pretty sure that all this call for all these multiple memorials, it's going to stop.
	This won't continue.
	I just don't see that happening.
	Personally, I've said this, I think the memorials should all come down, all the Confederate ones.
	I've discussed this with other people.
	They're all part of a Jim Crow thing, and it was all part of a women's movement at the time.
	It was a group of women out of the South that thought it was a beautification movement in the country in the early 1900s to put these monuments up.
	And because there were Southern women, they tend to pick these.
	I didn't know that.
	This I didn't know.
	It was part of a beautification project?
	Yeah, but it's a beautification of the country, so we want to put these monuments up.
	And they put a bunch of these Confederate guys up all over the place, including places where they're just inappropriate.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Like most of the places.
	And these arguments about Confederate memorials have been going on for 20 years, 25 years in some places.
	Yeah, I think it's got to a head.
	And I think they should be brought down and put in museums.
	They are art.
	And I feel bad about the one that was wrecked by those kids who just jerked it down.
	It was just a random soldier.
	But they are art.
	I can challenge you to make one of these things at home.
	It takes a lot of work, and you have to know what you're doing, and they're art, and so they belong in museums.
	We can get rid of...
	The thing about the Confederate soldiers is that this was a war between the states, one side won and one side lost, and typically the side that wins gets to put their memorials up.
	They get to write history.
	And they get to write history, and there's no reason to put the losing side.
	In fact, Robert E. Lee never wanted a statue of himself.
	He made a big point of it.
	And the statues of the southern guys should never have been put up.
	This is like, to me, we had a war, World War II. Did we put up Hitler and Himmler and Goebbels statues?
	Let's have a statue of Himmler.
	We have Stalin in Seattle.
	Stalin, no, it's Lenin, I believe.
	Is it Lenin or Stalin?
	I think it's Lenin.
	Nobody has a statue of Stalin.
	It's Lenin.
	And Lenin should probably, but we never had a, they were our allies, so that actually makes some sense.
	It's not like we beat Russia in a war.
	I think the Lenin statue is appropriate.
	But we don't have Himmler, which I think would be good.
	And what do you think about the grave sites?
	They're removing grave sites now.
	No, they should be untouched.
	You can't desecrate a grave.
	Oh, well, you're going to have a fight there.
	There's people moving graves, digging them up to move them out.
	I think it's sick.
	That is sick.
	Yeah, that's happening too.
	And books?
	And there's no reason for it.
	They're dead.
	And books?
	What about books?
	Well, I mean, can we just have these books?
	Because the books are filled with bad history.
	No, books have to stay.
	Books aren't the same.
	There's no war.
	It wasn't like there's books.
	Most of the books published were all published by the Yankees anyway.
	No.
	No, just those monuments.
	That's the way I see them.
	And Mount Rushmore?
	I'm not arguing.
	I'm asking.
	I'm not arguing.
	Mount Rushmore?
	Bring it down?
	No.
	They're the winners.
	They're on the winning side of the battles.
	Why would you bring it down?
	Slave owners?
	Slave owners?
	Teddy Roosevelt was not a slave owner.
	No, but we can bring some of them down.
	Lincoln was not a slave owner.
	There's only two of them that may have been slave owners.
	Washington and Jefferson, I believe, are the two.
	Well, if you listen to Angela Rye...
	Well, Angela Rye is insane.
	Okay, well, this is true.
	She should not be allowed to speak.
	Well, two black Americans who were allowed to speak, although I only know the one guy.
	Republican strategist, no less.
	Gianno Caldwell, I think.
	How many Republican and Democrat strategists exist in the world?
	There must be thousands of them.
	I don't know.
	And what do they do if you're a strategist?
	They go on shows.
	Can we just go to Washington and say, hey, I'm a strategist, and you get work?
	I think, well, I don't know if you get work, but you get on a talk show.
	Hmm.
	Well, they had these two people on, and they were crying.
	They were crying openly on television about the racism of the president.
	It was on Fox.
	It was on Fox and Friends, even.
	Fox has turned on the president.
	Well, it doesn't matter, but, you know, well, listen to it.
	John, do you, I mean, sorry, Giano, do you agree with that?
	Shit, I filtered this, but I filtered it wrong.
	You'll deal with it.
	Do you think, I mean, they're good people on both sides of this debate.
	We talk about keeping these statues up.
	People that I've talked to say, this is about history.
	How do we move forward?
	How do we learn from those mistakes if we just tear everything down?
	You know, I come today with a very heavy heart.
	Last night I couldn't sleep at all because President Trump has literally betrayed the conscience of our country.
	The very moral fabric in which we've made progress when it comes to race relations in America.
	He's failed us.
	And it's very unfortunate that our president would say things like he did in that press conference yesterday when he says, well, there's good people on the side of the Nazis.
	They weren't all Nazis.
	They weren't all white supremacists.
	Mr.
	President...
	People, good people, don't pile around with Nazis and white supremacists.
	Maybe they don't consider themselves white supremacists and Nazis, but certainly they hold those views.
	This has become very troubling.
	And for anyone to come on any network and defend what President Trump did and said at their press conference yesterday is completely lost and the potential to be morally bankrupt.
	I am so...
	Oh, man.
	He's another actor trying to get a job.
	The SJW say wah, wah, wah.
	Wah, wah, wah.
	Wah, wah, wah.
	The SJW say wah, wah, wah.
	All the way back to their mom's basement.
	I love it when you abuse your kids for the show.
	I've said it many times.
	We really appreciate that.
	Terrible.
	The Black Hammer Bunch.
	Hey kids, I got something fun to do.
	Come on down to Dad's studio.
	Wow.
	You know, you could be very right.
	You could be very right.
	They both were just crying.
	These people have been terrorized.
	If they're not acting as you claim, then they've been terrorized to a horrible degree.
	Alright, let's go to Bannon.
	Banyan.
	Banyan.
	Well, you predicted it.
	He had to leave and you were ahead of the times.
	Gorka's next.
	And Miller.
	And Cohn.
	No, Cohn's not going.
	No, Cohn's not going anywhere.
	I had dinner with the former New York banker.
	Okay.
	And he gave me a couple of little things.
	First of all, very...
	For the first time, I've never really heard him so super negative about Trump.
	He was really like, listen, he's a builder.
	He didn't really even build.
	These guys are incompetent.
	He doesn't know what he's doing.
	Cohen has to go.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	He said, Cohen has got to go.
	Cohen has to leave.
	Tell me more.
	Well, he didn't...
	He said there's...
	You know, he's in the banking world there, and he's like, if Cohen doesn't go, and although my friend is not a Jew, I have a feeling it has something to do with he'll be excoriated by the Jews.
	But he did not say that to me per se.
	I did learn two other things.
	One, the Mooch, his tax scam failed.
	Because if you sell your company, you can sell it tax-free if you join the government.
	There is a minimum time that you have to have served before you can do the tax scam.
	It's like 45 days or something.
	So the Mooch failed on that.
	I haven't heard anyone reporting on it.
	Well, the Mooch isn't stupid.
	He'll come up with something else.
	Now, I've got the...
	You finished the Cohen thought.
	No, well, the Cohen thought is, that's all I have.
	There was another thing about if you want to sue and you want to win, if you ever get fired if you're over 40, because he says this is what happened with the banks now, because all the banks are purging because there's no more banking business, really.
	And anyone over 40, probably about 80% or 90% of all these bankers who he even thought were nice people, nice guys, immediately turn around and are suing for age discrimination and winning.
	Good!
	Yeah, and it says the magic number is 40.
	If you get let go and you're over 40, regardless of industry, just say, okay, define me because I'm old, and it's ageism, and you will win, or you'll get a settlement.
	It's just a handy tip from the No Agenda show.
	We do it every show.
	There's a handy tip.
	There's a handy tip.
	So back to the Cohen thing, I believe it's because he's excoriated with the New York banking circles.
	Your guy's saying he has to go.
	He's not Jewish.
	Why would he be saying that?
	Cohen's not Jewish?
	No, your guy, as you said, is not Jewish.
	Why would he say Cohen has to go?
	Because he's still in the New York banking scene.
	That's why.
	And he hears what people are saying.
	There's got to be more to it than that.
	Is he incompetent?
	Is he giving bad advice?
	No, he's hanging out with the Nazis.
	End of story.
	Well, Gorka's the next one to go.
	And maybe his wife.
	What is she doing?
	She's responsible for...
	She works for the government doing something.
	She's the one that failed to give money to one of the...
	Oh, yeah.
	I remember that.
	She doles out money.
	She's in one of the departments.
	Okay.
	So let's start with this.
	This is Kuttner.
	You brought this to our attention in the last show or the show before where the progressive magazine that Kuttner is the editor, I believe, of had...
	Gotten a call from Bannon.
	You mean Kushner?
	Kuttner?
	Kuttner is the guy, he was a progressive, you know, that magazine article that you cited, where Bannon came on and...
	Oh, okay, yes, the progressive journalist, I got you, Kuttner, yes.
	Yeah, he's the guy.
	He's the guy that published this conversation with Bannon, which was the idea.
	And the thing was supposedly this sunk Bannon.
	Now, I didn't think about this right away, but I've come to the conclusion that this whole thing was a scheme.
	By Trump and Banyan?
	And Scaramucci.
	Oh, well, wait a minute.
	Did I not say all these guys were in cahoots to pull off some scam?
	Yes, you did.
	And you've got it.
	I think here's what the scam looks like.
	Scaramucci did the same thing with the New Yorker.
	For one thing, let's look at it from maybe a higher ground, a meta, and look down on it.
	At 50,000 foot view.
	Scaramucci comes in to do one job, get rid of a couple guys, including Priebus.
	He's a hit man.
	You've worked in business.
	There's professionals that come in.
	They're hatchet men.
	Yes, and they're consultants typically, but yeah.
	And they come in and they catch somebody and they leave.
	So this was a short-term job.
	And Scaramucci, I don't know who dreamed this idea, but he decides to make this crazy phone call.
	Knowing he's out, makes this crazy phone call to the New Yorker.
	And he spills his guts about a bunch of stuff and it gets a lot of attention.
	A lot of attention.
	Great scheme.
	Banyan does the exact same thing again with a counter...
	It's a progressive magazine.
	It's got nothing to do...
	In other words, they're not giving these scoops to right-wingers that nobody's going to read.
	It's to left-wingers.
	These guys take the bait and they write it all up thinking they got some sort of a scoop.
	I believe you're going to see this again and again until somebody gets a clue.
	Second part of this...
	Well, can I ask you a question?
	Of what Banyan said...
	What was the virus he was unleashing by doing this?
	I don't know.
	I think it's just his globalist view of things.
	Just to get it out there, because the left never hears any of this stuff.
	And maybe there'll be somebody out there, oh, that's interesting.
	I kind of believe that, too.
	That's all I think it goes.
	But here's the other part of this I think you're going to see also repeat itself.
	Scaramucci, who may be the guy to dream this idea up, shows up on Colbert.
	Uh-huh.
	Banyan's going to show up on Colbert, unless Colbert gets a clue.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	It would be fantastic.
	But only Colbert?
	I mean, well, I guess that's the formula.
	The shows would be fine.
	Yeah.
	But how about Rachel?
	No, that's not a...
	No, no, no.
	It has to be one of the late night talk shows where you can do jokey stuff.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, gotcha.
	So, they're going to show up on Rachel any time they want.
	So, I think that we may start seeing a trend where these guys...
	Because Banyan knew that he was out, according to this guy, Kuttner, who couldn't make heads or tails of him.
	He said, why is he inviting me to the White House when he quit two weeks ago?
	Right.
	And he was befuddled.
	Kuttner's an idiot, and he's befuddled.
	So, here's...
	What Kuttner, it was on Fox, Kuttner tries to analyze this in his progressive way, somewhat befuddled by the fact that he's been had.
	Of the last straws, if you will, for the president when it came to Bannon, did you get the sense at the time that what Bannon was telling you could bring him down?
	Well, I got the sense of somebody who was very full of himself, who was very reckless.
	First of all, reckless in thinking that he could call an editor of a well-known liberal publication and talk almost as if we were having a private strategy conversation, not bother to even say whether this was off the record.
	And somehow think that this would play to his advantage.
	The other thing that's really bizarre, I mean, Maggie broke the story that there had been a resignation letter two weeks ago, and here Bannon is talking with me, inviting me to the White House after Labor Day and talking as if he's still going to be in charge of trade policy.
	Both things can't be true.
	And I certainly trust Maggie's reporting on this.
	So you wonder if Bannon is giving this kind of a last hurrah, pretending that he's still going to be there, knowing that he's going to be out, or if he knows that he's going down in flames and what the hell, he might as well say what he thinks.
	And I think this kind of hubris, this kind of grandiosity, may not serve Bannon well as he tries to jam the president in his reinstated role as chairman of Breitbart, because you can't really have it both ways.
	He can either continue to be the president's confidant, where the president calls him at two o'clock in the morning and talks strategy about How far to go with neo-Nazis and nationalist extremists and Breitbart isn't...
	I mean, Bannon isn't in, but he's still Trump's confidant.
	Or you can have Bannon at Breitbart kicking the president in the shins.
	It's kind of hard to imagine that he can do both things.
	And I think the single thing that annoyed Trump more than anything else...
	It's being upstaged by staff.
	We saw this with Scaramucci.
	There's room for only one Trump at the White House.
	It's one thing for Bannon to advise Trump.
	It's another thing for Bannon to think that he is Trump, to have the same kind of grandiosity that his boss has.
	So Bannon, trying to have it both ways, I think is playing a very risky role here.
	As we would say at NPR, there's a lot to unpack here.
	So this guy who's been waltzed down Primrose Lane doesn't see anything.
	I mean, but the thing that triggered me to think that this was some sort of a trick was when he talked about the off-the-record, on-the-record commentary.
	Yes.
	The way he described it, it was exactly the way the New Yorker writer described his meeting with Scaramucci.
	Hmm.
	On the phone.
	Phone call.
	He says, the guy, I don't know if I was off the record, he mentioned the same thing.
	It was like a carbon copy of the Scaramucci move, only Scaramucci cussed a lot.
	That was the main difference.
	These guys are so blinded.
	I mean, and very honest, this is a fantastic thesis, and I'm really, I have no argument against it, because it's the only thing that makes sense.
	But how can the two dudes on a podcast be smarter than these elites?
	Because we're the two great, we're in the greatest podcast in the universe.
	Okay.
	That's the reason.
	I just wanted to spike the ball.
	Now, let's play.
	Well, hold on.
	I want to take this further.
	Okay, so Colbert would be a good one.
	But who would the next person be to do this?
	Oh, you mean, well, who's going to be out next?
	Gorka, Gorka, Gorka, right.
	And Gorka is a big talker.
	He's very good on talk shows.
	But who should he target?
	Which gullible idiot is he going to grab from the written press?
	If your thesis is true, I like this.
	So he'll do the same thing.
	You can't do it with the same reporter each time.
	No, no.
	It's got to be a different guy every time.
	And there's plenty to choose from.
	I'm thinking someone from Rolling Stone.
	How about that?
	Maybe.
	It's a little more circumspect than these guys.
	These guys are jumping at the chance for a scoop.
	Whatever happens, it will surprise us.
	And they're going to say the same thing.
	Oh, Gorka's upstaged the president and that's why he's out.
	So it's really a twofer.
	Because they get to run with the meme that he's upstaged the president and that's how you get out.
	Or that's how you get thrown out.
	Now, we'll see.
	We'll see what unfolds.
	I mean, Gorka might end up on the nightly news.
	I mean, with a confession to make there.
	I have no idea.
	All I know is that I'm seeing a pattern, and I think I'm legit.
	There's only two points in a graph.
	I agree, it's not enough.
	But, boom, Scaramucci did the exact same thing that this guy did.
	So, So there's something to it.
	Go ahead.
	Let's listen to the Banyan rundown.
	This is the Banyan rundown on CBS, which discusses, and I'll point out some interesting things as we do this.
	And I do want to say to people who are new to the program, when you think We're mispronouncing the name.
	It's you who was wrong.
	It's Banyan.
	White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said that Chief of Staff John Kelly and strategist Steve Bannon mutually agreed on his exit.
	But sources tell us that the president had grown frustrated by Bannon's rising profile.
	Wait, this is CBS? Sources?
	They can't even say sources within the White House?
	Why don't they just say sources?
	Just don't even say sources where.
	It has to do with his profile.
	The president had grown frustrated by Bannon's rising profile and recent publications describing him as the mastermind behind Mr.
	Trump's campaign.
	The president's irritation was clear during Tuesday's explosive press conference.
	Mr.
	Bannon came on very late.
	You know that.
	I went through 17 senators, governors, and I won all the primaries.
	Mr.
	Bannon came on very much later than that.
	Bannon was one of the first White House staff members hired, and he arrived with a nationalist agenda, playing a key role in the controversial travel ban.
	Shortly after the president's inauguration, he described himself as part of a new political order.
	If you think they're going to give you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken.
	Every day, every day it is going to be a fight.
	His prior work at Breitbart News, which has lent editorial support to the white supremacist movement, made him a lightning rod for criticism.
	Even, what's the authority on journalism?
	What are those guys called?
	There's a lot of them.
	Pointer?
	Pointer, yeah.
	They analyzed Breitbart and said, no way this is alt-right, no way this is a racist publication.
	Poynter said that, yeah.
	Your work at Breitbart News, which has lent editorial support to the white supremacist movement, made him a mighty...
	Editorial support to the...
	I love that term, though.
	It's one thing to sympathize with Nazis, but when you're providing editorial support, my friend, now you've gone too far.
	His prior work at Breitbart News, which has lent editorial support to the white supremacist movement, made him a lightning rod for criticism.
	If we're going to have a wall, it's going to be a great wall.
	On Breitbart Radio in 2015, Bannon interviewed Mr.
	Trump about immigration and described himself as having more hard-line views.
	We're the know-nothing Bulgarians, so we always got to be to the right of you on this.
	Bannon was unafraid to feud with other White House officials, particularly the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, economic advisor Gary Cohn, and national security advisor H.R. McMaster.
	Just this week, Bannon seemed to undermine Trump administration foreign policy when he said in an interview, there's no military solution to North Korea.
	Yeah.
	Now, I want to mention that.
	Yeah.
	Because they made a big fuss about the no military.
	There is none.
	No.
	No.
	Unless you want to kill 10 million people in Seoul, Korea.
	Yeah.
	And, by the way, today there's video all over the tweeters.
	It's very funny.
	Of Chinese and Indian troops fighting in the Bhutan region, which we know is what a lot of this North Korea stuff is about.
	But John, fighting, it looks like Charlottesville, except it's on a beach, and they're throwing bottles at each other.
	They're not shooting.
	They're full military garb, and they're throwing rocks and bottles.
	What?
	Yes!
	And pushing guys down.
	It's the oddest thing.
	It's just really strange.
	I mean, if that's what it is, I mean, it could be fake, but it looked pretty real to me.
	It looked like it was authentic.
	It's from our sources, so you've got to believe me.
	Yeah, sources.
	It's from sources.
	So we move on to the weekend.
	He said one other thing that they kept carping on.
	I think it was, this presidency is over.
	Yeah, I saw that quote, and I never heard him say it.
	Didn't he write that?
	Wasn't that in the article?
	In the Kuttner article?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	I think it was.
	I think it may have...
	I don't know.
	It's possibly taken out of context.
	But what possibly are they thinking?
	What is the goal?
	What is the goal?
	The goal is just to establish a new meme.
	No, no.
	I'm sorry.
	What is the goal of this gambit that Trump is...
	Oh, I'll tell you what the goal is.
	The goal is that the...
	And I think Trump's aware of this, is that a bunch of Democrats have taken over the White House.
	And they're irresistible.
	They apparently can't.
	McMaster, as far as I can tell, is a Democrat.
	He's got no creds otherwise.
	The chief of staff.
	So why are these guys going out and calling reporters and leaving?
	How does that game work?
	Well, they're calling reporters just to get the message.
	Get the message out.
	Also to show that they're human and get on these shows.
	And they all want to be actors.
	There you go.
	They might want to be actors.
	That's a possibility.
	And then I think at this point, Bannon is going to go after the, is going to start writing very critical stuff of some of these guys that are in there.
	I just realized.
	I think Bannon was only in there for a year so he could get the lay of the land and see what the hell was going on in the swamp.
	Imagine this.
	Imagine you're Trump.
	Imagine you have a daughter, Ivanka, and she's been your right-hand man.
	And she's, you know, part for PR, but, you know, she's the apple of your eye.
	And then whether you're an anti-Semite or not, she winds up marrying a Democrat.
	And she's like, Dad, come on, we can do good stuff and I'll do for the women.
	And Jared, you like Jared?
	And maybe he is trying to figure out a way to get Jared out.
	Yes, this would be a good strategy.
	That might be true.
	And that's what Banyan could go start writing about and start attacking Kushner to force him to get out.
	But it can't be for the Jew reason.
	It has to be a different reason.
	Well, the Democrat reason is reason enough.
	Yeah, but that'll never work.
	I mean, for the public eye, it can...
	Well, it depends.
	They might have some goods on him, too.
	I mean, maybe Banyan was just making...
	Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
	How about that?
	How about a royal divorce?
	Well, I don't think that's going to happen.
	Okay.
	But Bannon can take pot shots now.
	He couldn't do that before.
	And he was having trouble with that guy.
	Right.
	So we keep our eye on Jared and Ivanka.
	Yeah.
	So let's go to the weekend update.
	It's more about Bannon.
	And this is the upstage meme plus a twist.
	Okie dokie.
	He agreed upon between him and Chief of Staff John Kelly.
	But recent statements to the press in which Bannon contradicted the president on North Korea and openly disparaged those in the administration did not help.
	President Trump was also said to be irritated by Joshua Green's book Devil's Bargain, in which Bannon is credited for the election win.
	He characterized it as amicable.
	Bannon spoke to Green about his plans now that he is back at Breitbart.
	Bannon told me he's going to war for Trump, not against Trump, for Trump, against his enemies on Capitol Hill.
	And in a further sign of difficulties for the president, today the White House announced that he and the First Lady will not attend the Kennedy Center Honors.
	Some honorees are planning to boycott the White House reception of the event because of what they describe as divisive rhetoric from the president.
	Yeah, this is really good.
	I love it when that happens.
	Man, where's my award show?
	We'll talk about that later.
	But meanwhile, the CBS managed to do...
	Every time CBS does anything that's more than a minute long, and by the way, I'm really disappointed in you.
	In me?
	Yes, for not complaining about this guy and his British accent.
	That is typically my thing, yes.
	But I've been so...
	The tidal wave of British authoritative voices is just too much.
	I don't even hear it anymore.
	It's horrible.
	Whenever you need to do something with absolute authority, and we need a couple of jingles like that.
	So we need some proper British people saying, you are listening to the best podcast in the universe.
	We need that.
	That's when people will believe it.
	Alright, so here's the example.
	This is the Bannon CBS Weekend update ISO. I want you to listen to this and I can make my typical CBS complaint.
	Trump was also said to be irritated by Joshua Green's book Devil's Bargain, in which Bannon is credited for the election win.
	He characterized it as amicable.
	All right.
	What does that even mean?
	This is that classic situation where they say Trump was irritated.
	He's shaking his fist.
	He hated the guy.
	Then they bring in a thing that's got nothing to do with that.
	They use a backup clip.
	You're already worked up about it.
	And they use a, apparently you can say anything in the backup.
	So you say something and then to back it up, you put a quote in or you say something or you bring somebody else in, which has nothing.
	It's not backing up anything.
	It's almost like a non sequitur.
	Play it one more time with that concept.
	That's very interesting.
	Trump was also said to be irritated by Joshua Green's book Devil's Bargain, in which Bannon is credited for the election win.
	He characterized it as amicable.
	You know, when I first heard it, in my mind I figured, well, maybe it was something you had to see to understand the context of why that clip was there.
	Because I also heard they popped in a little bit, I'm going to build a wall!
	They just threw that in for no reason.
	Yes, I heard it.
	That was a good one.
	They just threw that in.
	Total non sequitur.
	Just threw it in.
	CBS does this more than any other network.
	And it's done well.
	This is not just a bunch of producers who happen to, you know, like, oh, I'll do this.
	No, these are people who are thinking about it when they're putting it together.
	Somebody's thinking about it.
	Yeah.
	Well...
	So Charlie Rose, who works for CBS, does this thing called This Week on PBS, which is nothing more than a bunch of clips of his own interviews and CBS reports.
	So CBS is actually in on PBS now.
	And they pulled this thing in here, which I have to deconstruct in a very unusual way and stuff you will never have heard of before.
	But this, I'm going to play...
	This is the Banyan bench, Banyan conflation on this week with Charlie Rose.
	This is...
	I'm not playing the whole thing.
	I'm just playing the part where there's a transition.
	This is unedited.
	I want you to just listen to this unedited and try to figure out and explain to me what they're doing.
	Just this week, Bannon seemed to undermine Trump administration foreign policy when he said in an interview, there's no military solution to North Korea.
	More arrests were made today to jeers from onlookers.
	And all four suspects have been detained following the twin vehicle attacks.
	One down a busy Barcelona street, the second 75 miles south in the beach town of Cambrils.
	Okay, here's how I read that from a television production perspective.
	Trump can't keep you safe, is what I thought of first, right off the bat.
	Well, that might be one of the messages.
	I found it to be the most peculiar, and they did this, the whole, what they do is that they did it.
	It wasn't just this.
	There's, play part two of this clip, and then you'll see, I think it's a good one.
	So this wasn't a transition to another story?
	This was part of...
	This is the way they played the story.
	They played the Banyan story and then they cut right to the Barcelona story as though it was the same story.
	A waiter near the scene told us he saw terrorists wearing what looked like explosive belts.
	The suicide vests were fakes, but did manage to instill fear.
	We continue with Ashley Parker of the Washington Post.
	Early on in the administration, Bannon faced some trouble with the president when he appeared on the cover of Time magazine.
	That is the worst thing you can do if you're a White House staffer.
	And then he participated in this book by Josh Green, The Devil's Bargain.
	And the president was unhappy about that.
	He felt that Bannon was taking too much credit for his own electoral victory.
	And Mike Allen of Axios.
	As you know, this president does not like to be outshone.
	This president does not like other people crowding his spotlight.
	And the book that came out last month from Bloomberg Businessweek's Josh Green, the great book inside this White House on the cover showing Steve Bannon and President Trump as equals.
	And Charlie, we know the president saw that book and he did Okay, so this program, this clip program, is just a meme launcher, is what it is.
	I believe so.
	Yeah, just pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
	But the way they did it, if you notice that last clip you played started off at the Barcelona.
	Mm-hmm.
	And they made some little conclusion, and Charlie says, and we'll continue with, and then they went right to a Banyan story.
	This actually rotated back and forth between Banyan and Barcelona in a very creative way, and I immediately decided that this is a ring structure, and I'm going to explain that to people out there who like to read essays.
	I've written a number of these things.
	And there's a book on this that you can order.
	Mary Douglas, called Thinking in Circles.
	It explains the ring structure in literature.
	And the ring structure has a number of interesting characteristics.
	And J.C. Buskill Jr., I discussed this quite a bit when he first discovered Mary Douglas' book.
	This was a number of years back.
	You told me about this several years ago, and I read the book.
	Yes.
	And there's one interesting little gotcha.
	Let me explain what a ring structure is.
	By the way, for people who like the show Mad Men...
	The entire series was a long arc ring structure that began and ended pretty much the same way it began.
	If you look at the first episode and the last episode, all the elements of the last episode are in the first episode.
	And then every individual season was a ring, which is very common in long form.
	So you have a ring.
	And the idea of a ring is that it actually instills a sense of confidence in a reader or a viewer or anybody.
	And it stems back, as far as I can tell, to this idea you've heard it in school.
	It's a stupid, simplistic idea that you'll hear.
	Writers don't employ this unless they're doing a ring.
	But you hear it a lot when you're in high school and other places that are trying to teach you how to write.
	They say, tell them what you're going to tell them.
	Tell them, then tell them what you told them.
	That is a ring.
	So you tell them what you're going to tell them, tell them, and then tell them what you told them.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Now, that is what they always tell you to do, and nobody writes like that.
	Why not?
	But if you're going to do a ring...
	Because it's dumb.
	If I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do, I'm telling you how many times you need to be told.
	Isn't this just how television news works?
	Like, I'm going to tell you about this horrible thing that happened, I'm going to tell you, and then here's this horrible thing that happened.
	A minute ago I told you about that horrible thing that happened.
	Well, actually, that last part they don't normally do.
	The minute ago I told you this.
	But it's beside the point.
	It is a ring to do things that way.
	But the way the ring works is usually more elaborate.
	And the ring goes like this.
	It's like, for example, a ring-structured essay.
	And I've done plenty of them.
	I do them once in a while for two reasons.
	One, it's because I want to do one.
	I feel like it.
	Or two, I got an essay.
	I can't finish it.
	I'm halfway through.
	Well, I can ring myself out backwards.
	Because what a ring works like is that it goes like this.
	A, B, C, D. D, C, B, A. So you walk in...
	That's all the chords the Rolling Stones knows.
	That's fantastic.
	So you can do that.
	That's the classic ring structure.
	But it turns out there's one little element, and that was going on with Charlie Rose.
	On this show, which is this nonsense with this girl who comes on and she says, oh, you know, Trump doesn't like to be upstaged.
	And then another guy comes on, oh, he hates being upstaged.
	That's why Bannon is out.
	Well, the structure goes like this.
	A, B, and by the way, this is easy for me to say.
	You'd have to be given an example to show how it works, but it does work.
	A, B, C, D, E. D, C, B, A. So there's an odd number in the middle.
	In other words, it's not balanced.
	You don't have A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A. You have A, B, C, D, E. And then it goes backwards.
	So that E part has got nothing to do with the structure per se.
	It doesn't relate.
	It's just something you throw in there like, I'm going to build a wall!
	In the middle.
	And it's got no balancing side.
	There's no B to match a B. There's no C to match a C. It's just there.
	That element is always used to slip in some crazy stuff.
	Something that people will remember.
	The E chord.
	The E, yes, the E. The E shouldn't, it's got no matching, it's in the middle, people don't pay much attention to it because they're kind of hypnotized by the structure.
	That's what's going on here, when they start throwing these memes, and they made it very clear in this particular thing, if you play that last clip at the end, where the girl comes in and she, it's got nothing to do with anything, and then this guy from Axion, a new news organization, can't figure out who's funding that, backs her up.
	We've never heard this meme before that Trump doesn't like to be upstage.
	When he's running for office, he's always bringing people up to the stage to let them upstage him.
	He was talking about Rance Priebus being a superstar.
	He's going to come into his own.
	This is a new meme.
	You nailed it, John, and you're so right.
	The...
	The thin-skinned has been, and I think whoever is doing this, if it's Trump or Banyan, whoever's coming up with these strategies, that has pretty much gone away.
	It'll actually be the opposite.
	But that's gone away.
	The only people who use that are people on Reddit.
	Like, oh, you're so thin-skinned.
	So it's just been overused.
	By the way, I said it earlier before I came up with this.
	I thought thin-skinned, they could have really done a better job of beating that to death.
	They didn't.
	They dropped it.
	This has to be a strategy.
	Somebody had to come up with this.
	Oh, he doesn't like to be upstaged.
	Nobody ever said that during the campaign.
	This is very new.
	But what's behind it?
	What are they going to do?
	He doesn't like to be upstaged.
	I mean, if they're launching this meme, if they're doing it to destroy him or make him look bad until the elections, which is what it's all about, then what is the next move?
	Okay, he doesn't like being upstaged.
	Hmm...
	That's where this whole thing falls apart, because I don't have a clue.
	I'm looking at this saying, well, I identified the meme, and I can see that maybe it makes him look like an a-hole, or he's all by himself.
	He's got all these superstars, but all these actual...
	Washington, D.C. types that are in there now working for him.
	They don't have a chance because he's an egomaniac.
	I think it plays on the old egomaniac because we haven't heard enough of that recently.
	If you remember, that was like a big meme.
	Oh, he's an egomaniac, redheaded clown.
	You know that.
	I think it's just a rewrite of the older complaints.
	Hmm.
	Just looking for a new one, then, I guess.
	Maybe they felt the pool was just thinning out too much.
	You know, nothing was really catching anymore.
	That's possible.
	Well, this one looks like it could catch.
	We went through Manchild.
	We went through Fatso.
	We went through...
	You know, by the way...
	We should make a list of these memes.
	Yes, we should.
	Thinking of being, you know, thin-skinned...
	I mean, I will say that...
	I can imagine if for about two years you're being called Hitler, racist, asshole, misogynist.
	Oh, and then shit comes out that you're not proud of that's really horrible.
	And just, it's on and on.
	I mean, just every day, you're Nazi.
	The Jews are afraid of you.
	The blacks are afraid of you.
	The Muslims are afraid of you.
	You're a horrible man.
	Yeah, I think maybe I would get a little irked.
	Well, this happened to Clinton, by the way.
	I get irked from stuff on Twitter, let alone this.
	Clinton got a lot of grief like this for a long time, and he just did his job.
	Who knows how Trump's going to handle it?
	Not very well, obviously.
	Well, we don't know that.
	I mean, he might be handling it fine.
	I mean, he seems to be...
	I don't see the thin-skinned-ness so much.
	I mean, he likes to be combative.
	He likes to argue with the press.
	I think that's what he should stop doing.
	The press is not his friend.
	No!
	No!
	I think it is getting to him.
	He's slipping.
	Look, he slipped up.
	Obviously he was trying to make everybody happy and also a faction of people that voted for him because I think he has a deeper understanding of what white nationalism may be out there.
	I think he understands Nazism too or actual hate.
	I think he gets that.
	But he slipped up and he screwed it up really bad.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	I'm not completely buying it.
	I mean, that's the media's take on things.
	No, but that's the point.
	No, no.
	This is not the media's take or facebag's take.
	This is what has propagated.
	People are stupid, John.
	No one reads beyond the headline.
	People who send me articles don't even read beyond.
	They say, oh, this looks like something for Adam.
	I'll send it to him.
	People are dumb.
	They're not thinking at all.
	So all you have to hear is you just need to hear a thousand times whatever the president is this week, and you believe it.
	He doesn't like to have a spotlight shared.
	Yes.
	I'm just thinking, okay, where will this come out?
	We'll find out.
	I'll tell you why.
	Why it's interesting.
	It's very easy to use the thin skin or the small hands or the fat soap or any of that stuff.
	I gotta make the list.
	Let's do a list of the real time.
	Okay.
	Well, then I'll write down the list.
	We're on a roll.
	I got two.
	Small hands, thin-skinned.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Small dick, small pecker.
	Small hands, small dick, thin-skinned chatroom.
	Clown.
	Round?
	Orange clown.
	Orange clown.
	Yeah, clown.
	Bad hair.
	Yes, bad hair.
	Wig as a wig.
	Wig.
	Bat.
	Fatso.
	Did we do fatso?
	Fatso.
	Yes, we've done a couple of those.
	What else do we have?
	Now it needs spotlight.
	Well, we also...
	Nazi.
	Hold on, let's do everything.
	Nazi.
	White supremacist.
	Hate woman misogynist.
	Misogynist.
	He's also child rapist.
	Child rapist.
	Remember the whole clip of him saying, I would date my daughter.
	No, I should say incest.
	Let's just say incest.
	Incest prone.
	Incest prone.
	Yes, okay.
	Very good.
	Pig.
	Pig is a good one.
	I've heard pig a lot.
	The Islamophobe.
	Islamophobe.
	That never got anywhere.
	No, okay, but xenophobe.
	Xenophobe was big.
	Xenophobe was big.
	It was very big.
	Russian spy.
	Well, spy is not the right word.
	Russian stooge.
	Stooge.
	Stooge.
	Or dupe.
	Yeah, collaborateur.
	Yeah.
	Collaborateur.
	Anti-Semite.
	Yeah, anti-Semites knew.
	Yeah, but it's in there.
	Yeah, it's on the list.
	Yeah.
	What else...
	You know, germaphobe.
	That's where the chat room could kind of...
	No, but they're not doing a good job.
	Racists, of course, racists.
	We didn't really put racists in there, per se.
	Racists.
	Hmm.
	That's quite a list, actually.
	Let me see what we have here.
	We've got one, two, three, four.
	I'll read them.
	We've got small hands, small dick, thin-skinned, orange clown, bad hair, wig, fatso, Nazi, white supremacist, misogynist, sexist.
	Hold on.
	Sexist needs to be in there.
	Sexist.
	Sexist.
	The incest-prone pig.
	Oh, golden showers.
	Golden showers.
	Got to put golden showers in there.
	Right?
	Narcissist.
	Narcissist.
	Oh, Narcissist.
	Narcissist.
	My goodness, I can't believe we're forgetting these.
	Golfer.
	That's a bad...
	I hate to be called a golfer.
	That's bad.
	Islamophobe.
	You get that, yeah.
	Xenophobe.
	Russian stooge.
	Collaborateur.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Science denier.
	Science denier.
	Populist.
	That's a good one.
	I like populist.
	That's good.
	Birther.
	Oh my goodness.
	Birther.
	Did we call him Hitler yet?
	Make sure we put Hitler in there.
	Okay.
	These are very good.
	Very, very good.
	Creepy.
	Creepy.
	A lot of creepy.
	Creepy.
	Yeah, creepy.
	Creepy.
	Jeez.
	Yeah, that's our president.
	Oh, how about junk food?
	Something about...
	I don't know, that never really stuck as a meme.
	No, it didn't really catch anything.
	Con man!
	Con man!
	Hello, con man.
	Con man.
	Con man.
	Demagogue.
	Holy crap!
	Yeah, Demagogue's a good one.
	That's why I wanted to do this now, because we're going to start forgetting these.
	Yeah, we're going to have this.
	Carnival Barker.
	Did that really catch the Carnival Barker?
	No, no.
	It was in the beginning there was a bit of that.
	P.T. Barnum, they call him P.T. Barnum.
	Well, maybe.
	Yeah.
	Tax, tax cheat.
	Tax cheat.
	Oh, yes.
	Tax cheat.
	Tax cheat.
	Yes, man baby.
	Bankrupt.
	This list is fantastic.
	Man baby.
	Man baby, man child.
	Man child.
	Man child, I think, is more appropriate.
	Not My President.
	How about that?
	That was a good one.
	Draft Dodger.
	Yeah, that didn't get anywhere, but I think it should be on the list.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Deplorable.
	I mean, you could put that in there, but maybe.
	Failed businessman.
	We put that in there.
	Reality TV star.
	Oh, that's the main one.
	That's still used.
	Reality TV star.
	So-called president.
	Yeah, that's what LeBron James called him.
	Well, there's a lot of so-called president stuff out there.
	Putin's cock holster.
	That didn't really catch on the other shows.
	Oh, Clinically Insane?
	John Oliver, I believe.
	Clinically Insane?
	Ah!
	Yeah, Clinically Insane.
	Yeah, Insane meme is great.
	Do we have Homophobe?
	We didn't put Homophobe in there either, did we?
	I don't remember coming up as a Homophobe.
	Well, yeah, he hates the trans people.
	What are you talking about?
	I just don't remember this.
	Okay.
	How about just celebrity?
	Isn't that a bad word by itself?
	Yeah, but that's not a meme.
	Okay.
	We got the bankrupt.
	I think that's a pretty good list.
	Unhinged?
	Unhinged.
	Unfit for office.
	Unfit for office.
	Man, they've done quite a lot on this.
	They've got a number on this guy.
	Neo-Nazis.
	See, this is the problem.
	They're not focusing.
	Conspiracy theorists.
	Yes.
	Is that true?
	Yeah.
	They always talk about him being a conspiracy theorist.
	Yeah.
	Okay, we'll take it off.
	I'm going to put it on there with a question mark.
	Unqualified?
	Unqualified is a good one.
	Yeah.
	See how much fun this is?
	He's qualified.
	If you look in the Constitution, he's more than qualified.
	What else has he been accused of?
	We want people out there to send us some email, like with our words project.
	Anything that we missed.
	Alright, we can move on.
	He's also been called a Democrat.
	Remember that for a while?
	Quitter?
	Quitter?
	When did he quit?
	No, that he was going to quit.
	He's going to quit.
	Oh, yeah.
	Going to quit any minute.
	But I don't think that's...
	That's not a meme.
	I don't know what that is.
	How about Cheater?
	Cheating on his wives?
	Anything like that?
	No.
	No, I think this is a pretty good list.
	So far.
	Let me just, yeah, let me see.
	We have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 15, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 15, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 15, 14, 15, 15, 15, 15, 16, 17, 17, 18, 18, 19, 19, 19, 19, 20. 47.
	Yeah.
	Liar.
	Liar needs to be on there.
	Liar is a good one.
	Liar.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, now that you mentioned that he's anti-science.
	Yes.
	I do have a clip.
	Okay.
	I want you to play, this is NPR 1.
	This is W... One of our producers sent this to me from WNYC, New York.
	Also called NPR One, the number one NPR... Of course, they only play local stuff, but this is a special some woman's putting together on...
	We're all going to die.
	And I want you to start by introducing a guy who comes on, and then I'm going to play clip two, and you're going to have to tell me where he's maybe wrong about his whole thing, since he's such an expert.
	This is NPR One Day.
	I am David Biello, and I'm the science curator at TED Talks, as well as the author of The Unnatural World.
	And are you still contributing to Scientific American?
	And I am a contributing editor at Scientific American.
	You've got all my titles now.
	I have them all.
	Awesome.
	Okay, so here's what we know, and this is why we've gotten you in here.
	We know that the world is warming up.
	We know that if it continues on like this, we humans are not going to be able to live or deal with the effects of rising seas and rising temperatures.
	You might die!
	So you have this premise, and so he's going to tell us, don't forget, he's the science curator for TED Talks.
	Oh, so he determines who's going to be on the stage.
	He's on the, well, no, I don't know what that's got to do with it, but he's got, it's just a guy, you know, seems to have some credibility.
	I don't know, he's got a book out.
	But, so I want you to play NPR1 CADGAF, tell LED story clip, and you listen to this and tell me what's wrong with what he says.
	I've seen these things called CFCs, refrigerants and in hairspray.
	Oh, no.
	Yes.
	And it was like you felt guilty every time you used hairspray because you were putting a hole in the ozone.
	I remember that.
	Exactly.
	And everybody came together and said, that's not a great idea, and we don't necessarily need hairsprays that use CFCs.
	Let's stop that.
	And so that's what Reagan helped do.
	And as a result, the ozone hole is healing.
	We could do something similar with climate change.
	So the replacements for those CFCs turn out to be super greenhouse gases.
	So think of a...
	molecule that's a thousand or more times better than CO2 at trapping heat.
	And those are basically the molecules we're using in our air conditioners and refrigerators.
	And the irony is we need them more than ever because of the rising heat.
	We need to shift to yet another suite of molecules, One of them is actually carbon dioxide that we could use in our air conditioners and as a refrigerant.
	But we can also make our air conditioners much more efficient.
	New technologies such as computer-assisted design, which some folks like to overhype by calling it artificial intelligence.
	Could enable us to find even more efficient engines that will enable these air conditioners to run with less energy.
	You reduce the energy cost, you get more cooling, and less CO2. Will I be able to buy this anytime soon?
	You will be.
	Yeah, it'll come with your nest.
	So he says in there, since you missed it, I think, Play the ISO and you can hear it again.
	I'm pretty sure I heard it.
	New technologies such as computer-assisted design, which some folks like to overhype by calling it artificial intelligence.
	Well, I'm in agreement with him in this case because I think every single time I hear the word artificial intelligence or machine learning, I puke.
	Well, puking is one thing, but calling CAD a new technology...
	Which says CAD has been around since the 70s.
	Yeah, was it one of the first applications of personal computers?
	No, it was pre-personal computer.
	It was pre-personal computer.
	It was running on many computers.
	When Autodesk, I think, put CAD on the small machines in the early 80s, 1980s.
	Wait, he's calling it artificial intelligence, or people were calling it artificial intelligence because it knew how to draw a line between two points?
	No, he's just full of crap.
	Nobody was calling CAD artificial intelligence ever.
	No.
	No.
	It's just like this show, the No Agenda Show News, filled with artificial intelligence and machine learning.
	Hey, you can drop that in.
	So I have to assume this guy doesn't know what he's...
	Nobody would say that.
	That CAD, computers, is artificial intelligence.
	No.
	Let's play that ISO one more time so people can really appreciate this comment.
	New technologies such as computer-assisted design, which some folks like to overhype by calling it artificial intelligence.
	Yeah.
	This may be a trend because I saw an article talking.
	I think it maybe was a UK article that the intelligence services...
	No, it wasn't.
	Someone was going to use cryptography for something.
	I had to look it up.
	And the headline was, Based on Nazi technology!
	Which, you know, refers to the...
	The Enigma machine.
	The Enigma machine, yes.
	And so, you know, this cryptography...
	Right, because before the Enigma machine, there was no such thing.
	No, we didn't have any crypto.
	No, not at all.
	But it may be something weird like that.
	Like...
	I don't know, I mean, why that guy would say that, besides that he otherwise has no idea what he's talking about?
	But he said more weird stuff in there, John.
	He says that we need, did he say we need to run our air conditioners on CO2? Yes, he said, no, the whole thing was weird.
	How does that work?
	And she was, and she, I don't know, maybe she had a crush on the guy, but all she, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, what do you say?
	Well, before we take our little break then, let me do a science clip.
	Because we have the big eclipse coming.
	Everyone's all jacked up.
	Does it seem to you like people are more jacked up about this eclipse than previous eclipse eyes?
	Well, they've done a good job of promoting it because it's the first eclipse in 100 years that covers the entire United States.
	It starts up in Oregon, goes down to, I guess, Georgia or Alabama.
	Well, and it enters Oregon, the 33rd state, then passes along the 33rd parallel.
	Yeah, kind of.
	Yeah.
	Well, people are real jacked up about it.
	Oh, everyone's jacked up, but there's already apparently traffic jams up in Oregon where there's a bunch of people that have set up shop to soak the tourists who come in there for their one minute of glory.
	Yeah, well, you know, and of course, the glasses, and then I guess it was Amazon who handily played into that, and, you know, there was a shortage of glasses, and everyone's getting to get their glasses.
	Well, they also sent out bad glasses.
	Mimi got some bad glasses.
	Bad glasses.
	Woo!
	Yeah.
	Bad glasses.
	Well...
	By the way, you can usually look through it.
	There's certain CDs that you get to test them, but a lot of CDs, because they have a silver kind of a...
	It's not silver, but whatever it's coated with inside.
	I think it's silver, maybe.
	But anyway, you can hold a CD up, and you can look through the CD, unless it's got a, you know, painted on one side, and you can see this, look at the sun safely.
	Well, I mean, I always figure that all of this is bullcrap, and that they're just saying this so you don't look So you can actually see, you know, all of the universe will be revealed, you know, expanding earth, flat earth, something that they don't want us to look at, obviously.
	Whatever it is, don't look.
	Don't look at the sun.
	We don't want you to see it.
	I like the flat earthers and their comment about how an eclipse works.
	It's actually quite funny.
	All right, anyway, there's more we need to be worried about, John.
	Okay, so some viewers out there have been asking, how can you protect your pets during the eclipse?
	Well, vets say it's pretty simple.
	Avoiding eye contact with the sun is natural for animals, but just in case, let's try to keep them inside or even in the shade.
	The main thing is keep them from looking directly at the sun, which you can't tell them not to do that, so they should hopefully not do that in general.
	But if you want to be extra safe, just keep them inside.
	Animals in general probably don't want to necessarily look directly into the sun, so that should be a saving grace for our pets.
	Now, another expert warns the eclipse is a lot like the 4th of July with a lot of commotion happening.
	So, for the eclipse on Monday, keep an eye on your pets.
	To me, this is a tipping point.
	When people are worried that their pets are going to look at the sun and hurt their eyes.
	I think we officially, we're lost now.
	We're like Atlantis.
	We're just gone.
	Well, I can't make an argument against this concept because this is pretty bad.
	And they have doctors.
	Either that or they just too much news time to fill.
	There's really news around the world.
	We do it on our show for three hours.
	We talk about different stories.
	We do sometimes dwell on a story.
	But there's stuff to talk about besides this.
	But how can anyone in their sane mind produce a piece where the insinuation is that a pet might look at the sun during the eclipse and hurt its eyes?
	Because it's so interesting in the eclipse.
	I mean, how does that...
	It's been hearing all the hype.
	Exactly.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Maybe it's just Oregon. .
	I don't know.
	No, it's everywhere.
	Although Oregon is a candidate for the looniest state there is.
	Maybe Florida should win that, but Oregon's right up there.
	And weren't they really a racist state, Oregon?
	Oregon, oh yeah.
	But don't they come from severe racism?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's my cue for you to say, yeah, and here's what it was, because I don't remember, really.
	I don't remember either.
	I just know it's a fact.
	Okay.
	Sources say.
	Sources say.
	Now there's a bunch of hipsters up there, and they're cool.
	They're good with it.
	Jerry Lewis died.
	Oh, Jerry Lewis died?
	Yeah, that's what I'm seeing in the chat room.
	Oh, that's interesting because I do have to make the announcement that Dick Gregory died.
	I saw that too, yeah.
	Yeah, Dick Gregory died like yesterday, I think.
	Dick Gregory, I saw Jerry Lewis too when I was a kid on stage with Dean Martin.
	And I saw Dick Gregory a number of times when he was a stand-up comic.
	Incredibly funny.
	And then he became kind of this, he's the one who, he became kind of political and I think kind of nutty.
	But he's the one who promoted, I think we had a clip of it, promoting the idea of the two Trumps.
	Was that him?
	Yeah, it was Dick Gregory.
	We always had the two Obamas theory, but he's the one who came with two Trumps, and he's the one who said, and that's what I think the clip said, it's the Trump with the red tie that's the real Trump.
	Right.
	And the blue-tied Trump was the phony, fake Trump.
	And it would kind of make some sense, because the way he was working himself to death, giving all these speeches.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, we'll never know.
	But we do know one thing.
	We have a lot of people to thank.
	And I would say that if you look at the eclipse through a CD and your retinas are burned into your skull, please do not sue the No Agenda show.
	We have no money.
	I made it clear you have to test these because not every CD works.
	I know, but you've got to be careful in today's environment.
	Don't even look at the sun.
	Don't even go to the eclipse.
	I think it's just a waste of time.
	Don't go to the eclipse.
	Let it come to you.
	Nonsense.
	I'm protesting.
	I'm not going to watch the eclipse.
	I'm pretty sure everyone who watches the eclipse, something bad is going to happen to you.
	They've been putting these guys on the air, one after another.
	When you see a full eclipse and get to see the corona, it changes your life.
	I'm wondering about those guys.
	I'm not going to be watching it.
	Let's start with Ari Kairagi.
	Kairagi?
	Kairagi, I think.
	Kairagi.
	This donation is for Brian Patrick Mickey for his big 50th birthday on August 19th.
	I believe he's on the list.
	$150.
	Thank you.
	Samuel Lichtenstein in New York City.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles Baron of Spokane Valley.
	And he happens to send a note we have to read because on Federation letterhead.
	Ah, yes.
	Always a necessity.
	So it says, it says, Dear Bob and Ray, twice each week, no agenda provides me with the tools to resist the thought programming by the mainstream media.
	Here is my meager payment for those tools.
	Sir Donald.
	W-A-6-O-M-I. Yeah, 73 is kilo 5, Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	Ivan Wickheim in Oslo, Norway.
	Huh.
	What does our Norwegian friend say to us?
	I've been listening to your great show for years, but being a broke student, for much of it, I haven't contributed much.
	Anybody contributed today?
	$100.
	Thank you very much.
	Sir Abel Kirby, Knight of the...
	Fight or flight.
	Fight or flight.
	That's cute.
	Broomfield, Colorado.
	100.
	Jason Denning.
	Did you see his note?
	Very good idea from Sir Abel Kirby.
	I got a kickback for switching cell service providers.
	Thought I'd pass it on.
	Thank you very much.
	Great idea.
	Thank you.
	Send your kickbacks to the No Agenda show.
	Right.
	Jason Denny, 95.70, he's got a F cancer request.
	You can do it now or later.
	I will do it later.
	Gilles Pavot, one of our few French listeners in Paris, $80.55.
	Bonjour.
	Jason Butler, 808 boob.
	You need some Jobs Karma at the end.
	You can give Jobs Karma.
	Will do.
	Duncan Geldenhoos.
	Wait!
	Stop!
	Felton House.
	He sent his own pronunciation guide.
	Felton House.
	One more time?
	Felton House.
	Felton House.
	He said Hase.
	House.
	Say it.
	Felton House.
	Felton House.
	Sounds like Hase to me.
	Well, we appreciate sending along your own pronunciation guides.
	That is appreciated.
	That does work.
	He's a millennial.
	Yes, he was smart.
	He's got a douchebag call out for somebody.
	It's a long note, so don't worry the whole thing.
	Well, let me see.
	It's interesting.
	Millennial from Queensland here, slowly watching people around me start to suffer from swollen amygdala.
	I've been attentively consuming the show as it comes out here on Friday slash Monday morning.
	The first thing I do before I make a cup of coffee is set the show to download on iTunes.
	I've been really enjoying watching the talks interview done on YouTube.
	I discuss all of this with my dad, who hit me in the mouth a good 60 episodes ago.
	Good man!
	Last night over dinner, having studied the crazies that call themselves my peers for years, I predicted the reason that you pulled out of...
	Oh, you're talking about the Alex Jones show.
	Fully woke millennial.
	Okay, great.
	Thank you very much, Duncan.
	Seth Harper, 77.
	Well, he has a call-out.
	I don't see it.
	I don't see the call-out.
	Oh, here it is.
	Can you call out Chewy and Val?
	Chewy.
	Douchebag.
	And Val.
	Douchebag.
	As douchebags for taking the sweet value for value without contribution.
	There you go.
	Good call.
	Seth Harper, 77, 77.
	Parts unknown.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 69, 96.
	Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington, 67.
	Zohai Zama.
	In Japan, 60...
	Oh, Kohai.
	Kohai.
	Kohai!
	Zama in Jinjuku, Japan.
	6666.
	Sir Bob of the Dude's Name Ben.
	6006 Mini Boobs.
	NC4RG73s.
	Booblets.
	73s.
	Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California.
	Our buddy down there.
	5678.
	He was the star of the last meetup down there.
	Sir Joseph, 55-55.
	Dean Roker, 55-10.
	Christopher Tromp in Sturgis, Michigan.
	Great shows, he says.
	52-32.
	54-32.
	David Wilson in Springs, Australia.
	Springshore.
	Springshore in Queensland, 5167.
	Sir Gray of Gramerica.
	Our Gramerica guys, 51-50.
	Christian Hansen in Bozeman, Montana.
	5150.
	Excellent work, he says.
	Sir Ben of Oakland, 5135.
	John Studebaker, 5005.
	Andrew Benz, St.
	Louis, Missouri, $50.05.
	The following people are $50 donors.
	Name and location, if there is one.
	George G. in Toronto, Ontario, $50.
	Brandon Ellsbury, Orlando, Florida, $50.
	Jessica LaRue in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
	Eric Elan in Murfreesboro, another Murfreesboro dweller.
	Thank you.
	Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, Canada.
	Bill LeClaire, capital L, small a, in Riverdale, Michigan.
	Israel Cazares in the U.S. somewhere.
	Andrew Gusick in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	Kevin Porter in Beaver Creek, Ohio.
	Jason Clegg in San Diego, California.
	And last on the list, Donald Schwartz in Chino Hills.
	And from Pop Money, Kirsten Gleb.
	Got 50 into the bank directly.
	Want to thank all these folks for helping us on 5.
	The show 957, I believe, if I'm not mistaken.
	Helping us produce the show.
	This is very useful.
	Jessica LaRue also had a call-out.
	She's the $50 donor from Gettysburg.
	Want to call out my boyfriend, Wayne, for being a douchebag and not donating yet.
	Douchebag!
	Ah, the relationship will be doing just fine.
	Sure.
	Well, thanks everybody.
	Appreciate that.
	And we will have another program coming up on Thursday.
	That all depends, of course, how many of you look into the sun.
	I got an idea.
	Set your recorders.
	If you're going to go anywhere where the eclipse is taking place in public, I think you should take along your, you know, record this, what I'm about to play here, put it on your little MP3 player, and then, you know, Bluetooth it to your car stereo, and the minute the eclipse starts to happen in your area, You hit it.
	Yeah!
	Thanks, Obama.
	There you go.
	Yes, that will work.
	I think this is a very good idea.
	All right, we had some jobs karma and other and F cancer karma, so let's do that.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And not a very long list today, but we do have Mark Halby saying happy birthday to Michael Halby, turning 31 tomorrow.
	We have Irai Kiragi, happy birthday to Brian Patrick Mickey, turning 50, or turned 50 yesterday.
	Brandon Ellsbury, happy birthday to his smoking hot girlfriend, Kaylee, who turns 21 today.
	And his younger brother, Thomas, who will be 18 on the 24th.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe News.
	And we have...
	Title changes!
	That's right!
	We got a couple of title changes for the following producers, actually our royalty, who have continued to contribute to the No Agenda show, and therefore we congratulate Sir Joseph now of his change being Sir Wack Wack.
	Derby Dyke, now known as Sir Huaro of the Southwest, and Dame Sarah Bradley, Baroness of Sonoma County.
	And we congratulate you and thank you very much.
	And this change will be reflected on the Peerage map at itm.im slash peerage or at devarg.org slash peerage.htm, all caps.
	No.
	Not all caps.
	No knights today.
	No knighting ceremonies.
	None of that today.
	Hey, there was something odd about the Barthelona attack.
	I got this all in...
	I was getting all this in real time, too.
	It was really odd.
	I know so many people around.
	Listen to this.
	They have given brief details to police a short while ago of the main suspects, a man who had a passport identified as Dries Boukabir, a Moroccan national.
	Now, it's not clear if that is the man.
	That is the identity that he had on him.
	And the police investigators are saying this is a bigger operation.
	They don't think there are just these men involved.
	There are other reports coming in that the CIA informed the Spanish authorities two months ago that there could be a risk of an attack on this very stretch of road.
	So as investigation starts, there are also questions about was their intelligence known here and where they go from here tonight.
	I don't know if you heard that, but I heard that almost immediately.
	Whether that was launched immediately or whether it's true, I'm not sure how that comes out so quickly.
	I heard this too.
	Yeah.
	That they're going to have an attack on that very stretch.
	Yeah, very stretch.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	That was kind of odd.
	We have problems now with Erdogan.
	We kind of took our eye off the ball there.
	We have the German elections coming up in September, I believe.
	And he's doing more or less the same thing he did with the Turks residing in the Netherlands.
	He's calling up and saying, hey, you Turks, if you're good Turks, you've got to vote against Merkel.
	Which I think is meddling in the election.
	I think that's what it's called.
	Maybe we should spend some air time on that.
	There's a lot of Turks in Germany.
	That could be a very powerful voting bloc.
	The Turks were the number one, not refugee, but the number one workers that were brought in for decades.
	For a long time, yeah.
	So there's lots of Turks in Germany.
	This is not going to stand well with Angela.
	She will not like this.
	No, it's meddling.
	It is pretty much meddling in the election, but I guess no one's going to talk about that.
	No, it doesn't involve the Russians, so who cares?
	Oh, John, you know, you had such a great idea on, was it the last show or the show before?
	We've been talking about, you know, again, the rise of the concept of people chipping, and we already have some pretty good ideas, you know, insert the chip at birth to track your child so you don't lose your child, can't even be switched at birth, all these horrible stories.
	We can already dream up the PR campaign.
	And we don't have enough of the skill, we don't have enough of the contacts, and quite honestly, we're pretty lazy, so we're not going to do anything to jump on this obvious cash bonanza.
	However, your idea of the Faraday gloves, I think this is a Kickstarter.
	It might be.
	And we already have the jingle.
	When you're hip and chipped, it's not enough to encrypt.
	Buy some Faraday gloves!
	Wow!
	Wow!
	That's a winner?
	Yes.
	So you got the jingle.
	You got the name.
	Let's make this puppy.
	Okay.
	We can make fashionable ones.
	The only missing part of this is that there's nobody getting chipped enough to buy these gloves.
	Yeah, but we got to start.
	We have a very long Kickstarter.
	A 15-year Kickstarter.
	That would work.
	I don't know if that's possible.
	I'll investigate that.
	Yes, investigate.
	Please do.
	If you're hip and chipped, that's right.
	You get your Faraday gloves, everybody.
	Beautiful.
	I'm all in.
	There's a move being made.
	Which I think was...
	Obama maybe started this.
	It's to give U.S. Cyber Command more freedom.
	Operational independence.
	How much freedom do they need?
	Well, the way I'm reading this is more freedom from NSA. So they can operate independently from NSA. And I think this is an important move.
	This may be a counter move in the deep state.
	Because we know the NSA guys, they know everything.
	They should.
	So U.S. Cyber Command, which then I think, they would report, I don't want to see if I can find out if there would be any difference in reporting.
	But anyway, just giving a new unit a whole bunch of more operational independence.
	And certainly if it was something that Obama wanted to do, I'm sure the Obama administration was really afraid of NSA guys.
	They had the goods on everybody.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it took over from the FBI as the number one blackmailing operation.
	Yeah.
	I thought that was kind of an interesting move.
	Again, none of this is really covered very well.
	No, of course not.
	You get a letter in the mail.
	You will not be covering this any longer.
	Let's see.
	Canada sees unsustainable spike in asylum seekers.
	It's now not just Haitians who are trying to get to Canada.
	No, it's Americans.
	It's not just Americans.
	It's illegals in America who are leaving.
	Yeah, well...
	They're going to Canada.
	Canada can't take it anymore.
	Yeah.
	You know, which makes no sense to me because the Northern Territories, which are now called Wanda Land or whatever they call it, I don't even remember.
	Xenia.
	I have no idea.
	I can't remember what they call this area.
	You know, the Northern Territories used to be called the Northern Territories.
	Yeah, that's the way I know them.
	Yeah, no, they got a new name.
	They renamed them about a year or two ago.
	We talked about it on the show.
	It's got some wacky name I can't think of.
	Great Bear or something like that.
	Anyway, somebody in the chat room will pop it up.
	I think I sent them up there.
	There's lots to do.
	I mean, nobody's doing anything up there.
	It's just too cold.
	Well, the Canadians don't like it.
	They say they can't handle it.
	But they're the ones that are big shots about this.
	Oh, we welcome all your huddled masses.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's a big line going into Canada.
	They're global supremacists up there.
	Or something.
	I have a Milo clip, the last one, on what he doesn't like about Donald Trump, and I think it's something we've talked about on the show, and we should make sure we continue to talk about it.
	Wait, oh, okay, I got it here.
	I don't like the fact that Donald Trump clearly doesn't read.
	You know, he doesn't read books, and I don't think he has much of a grasp of policy detail.
	But then again, neither did Reagan.
	But his instincts are great.
	His instincts are fantastic.
	And there are other things that I like about him enough for me to be a fan.
	You know, it's very interesting.
	He plays this very well.
	He was kicked down in the gutter and he got really humble.
	Then everything changed and he became like sad Milo.
	And, you know, good on him.
	That's a good story.
	I didn't realize that he's now number three on the Times bestseller list.
	So he effectively just...
	Smash the system, because the system was certainly out to get him.
	What was his sin again?
	What did he do that got him...
	It was something about children and pedophilia?
	No, first he got kicked out of Berkeley and a big riot took place, and then somebody brought up the fact that he talked casually about Pedophilia, because he was abused as a child.
	Right, that's what it was.
	And so he said something, you know, he's just one of his often- But he got railroaded.
	He got railroaded.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so now he wins.
	Well, he seems dangerous.
	But he's back with, yeah, he's back.
	It's very smug the way he sounds now.
	He's- You could probably go download this from the C-SPAN site.
	He's outrageously smug.
	I found him incredibly annoying.
	He's just full of himself.
	I think he must have made a lot of money on that book.
	I don't know if he made a million dollars in one month, but getting a big hit of money like that and doing your own thing is like Independent Night is responsible.
	Yeah, it does end.
	To a publisher.
	It goes to your head if you're...
	If you don't watch it.
	It's very easy.
	If we were getting like five million dollars a show...
	I think it would ruin us.
	How about a fifth of that?
	Did you say more you than me?
	Is that what you said?
	I didn't say nothing.
	Wow!
	You are a dick.
	It takes you at least six beats.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	There's only one of us flying the show.
	Okay.
	I'm just saying, though.
	I will insult you.
	I do it once.
	I do it maybe once every other show.
	It's a minor insult.
	It's just a joke.
	I'm just kidding.
	But I slip it in and I start to count.
	And sometimes when I feel that I've actually won, it's like a competition.
	Uh-huh.
	You don't get it.
	Yeah.
	You miss it.
	Completely.
	And then you tell me the next show.
	Yeah.
	Because you listen to the shows, I guess.
	Yeah, but someone has to.
	And then you bitch at me.
	He's convention with me about this.
	No, I usually congratulate you on a funny joke.
	That's the truth.
	You're making this up.
	Yes, okay.
	That's what you said.
	That's what you do.
	Especially if I can slip it in.
	Yeah.
	As it were.
	Milo is totally full of himself and I found him very offensive.
	He'll never get an interview.
	He just stepped all over this woman.
	She is the one who runs Regnery, which is the number one publisher of almost every...
	She does the Coulter books.
	They do all the conservative books.
	And she knows a lot.
	And he never let her say anything.
	She tried to compliment him and he'd step all over her.
	Anyway, it was worth watching if you get a chance.
	Hey, I figured out maybe I know why people are so crazy up in Oregon.
	The state of Oregon has made drug possession for personal use a misdemeanor and not a felony.
	Governor Kate Brown signed a bill which reclassifies personal use possession for drugs like heroin, cocaine, and meth.
	Supporters believe people are better served with treatment, not jail.
	The misdemeanor drug law does not apply to people with multiple drug convictions or a previous felony conviction.
	I didn't realize that this was going on.
	I didn't know this either.
	This is news.
	And I think it's pretty big.
	They're taking the Portugal.
	This is Portugal.
	Yeah, well, and all the articles that are coming out say, oh, you know, this has gone horribly wrong everywhere.
	But, yeah, except Portugal, apparently.
	There is a very large backlash to the legalization process of marijuana mainly.
	Right.
	I mean, you hear it all the time.
	The Trump administration is all in on this backlash.
	Nonsense.
	But they're adding meth and heroin and everything's in here.
	Yeah, it should be.
	I think it should be.
	I think it should be exactly the Portuguese model, which has really backed everybody off of drugs.
	So, I don't know.
	I have a...
	You listen to Michael Savage go off on marijuana.
	It's unbelievable.
	He says there's no proof of anything.
	It has no medical benefits.
	This is bullcrap.
	Okay.
	And he goes off the deep end and all you do is ask these old women up in Washington State that you go to one of those stores and the place is filled with old ladies because it eases their aches and pains.
	I got a note from producer Eric Wessel Dyke.
	Adam and John?
	He says Adam, but I'll just add that in for form.
	On the last couple of shows, you brought up the various millennials that you know say that they feel a need to speak out against racism, bigotry, etc., unless they want to be seen as enabling it.
	I am an older millennial, born in 1986, and I think I figured out where it comes from in my own case.
	So I thought I should share this, John.
	When I was in elementary and middle school, we had multiple anti-bullying campaigns and they usually included a time of discussion where we parsed out who was to blame in the scenario.
	There was always blame assigned to the bystanders who did nothing to stop the bullying, teaching us that we always have a responsibility to speak up.
	It's the application of the principle supposedly learned from the Kitty Genovese murder, which is problematic by itself if I recall.
	The campaigns were trying to override the bystander effect.
	These campaigns, interestingly he calls them campaigns, also gave us the idea that if someone tells the bully to stop that he will.
	When you learn something like that as a kid and don't have a life experience to disabuse you of the notion, it sticks with you.
	I think that is one reason why so many millennials feel compelled to speak out on Facebook, Twitter, etc.
	whenever something bad happens.
	They've been convinced by their teachers that bad things can be stopped by enough people speaking out against it, which convinces them that they're actually helping the situation by posting statuses and tweeting.
	Finally, when we were kids, nearly everything and everyone told us that we could change the world.
	Bill Nye said it in every show.
	Captain Planet inspired us to save the world by recycling, and our egos were inflated by Mr.
	Rogers telling us that we were special, just the way you are.
	We were told we could be whatever we wanted to be, and the sky was the limit.
	If you keep telling people that long enough, they eventually will believe it.
	I think the world cares, and I think that the world cares about what they have to say.
	I think that this, combined with the overt attempt to program kids to override the bystander effect, has made many of us think that we need to speak up whenever we see something bad happening.
	I think that's a decent analysis.
	Sounds reasonable.
	There's more to it, but yeah, definitely.
	Definitely.
	I appreciate that.
	Millennial morals.
	Now, we're always...
	We love the millennials.
	We have so many millennials that listen to the show.
	I said that the meetup in Sacramento was half millennials.
	It's the grandfather effect.
	It's the Bernie effect.
	It must be.
	Well, I think it's just they like the show.
	I don't think there's a grandfather element involved.
	But thanks anyway, ageist.
	I was talking about both of us, not about you.
	But if the shoe fits, by all means, put it on.
	So let's talk a little bit about the Kennedy Center Honors Boycott.
	Yes, this is very exciting to me, because this is very elitist, this Kennedy Center Honors.
	Do they air this on TV all the time?
	Oh, yes, of course, on PBS. C-SPAN as well, or just PBS? No, no, no, PBS usually, but let's play this clip.
	This is the big elite thing, right?
	Oh, total.
	This is harder to get a ticket to than the Video Music Awards.
	Today, the White House announced that he and the First Lady will not attend the Kennedy Center Honors.
	Some honorees are planning to boycott the White House reception of the event because of what they describe as divisive rhetoric from the president.
	Marina?
	All right, so I have a couple of thoughts on this.
	One, for one thing, it is a total elitist event where they handpick a few Hollywood people.
	Like LL Cool J is going to get the award.
	This is for Lifetime Achievement.
	LL Cool J is getting a Lifetime Achievement Award?
	Yeah, for a contribution to American culture.
	Let me tell you about LL Cool J. Because when Judy McGrath was president at MTV Networks, she, I don't know, she might have been blowing him.
	I mean, this is literally how people at MTV are like, what is this?
	Is LL Cool J up hanging out with Judy McGrath again?
	He would hang around the MTV executives just hanging around.
	He'd be sitting in the office.
	He'd be over in the corner.
	It was just...
	Hey, LL, how are you doing?
	LL Cool J would be like, wow, that's LL Cool J. And it just got to be the point where he's like, eh, there's him again.
	As far as I could say, I remember being surprised, Mr.
	Don't call it a comeback!
	He's just sucking up to get on TV. He seems like a real suck-up to me, just from my personal experience.
	Well, he sucked himself up enough to get an award as being a lifetime achievement for contributions to American culture.
	Good on him.
	And most of them are like, this year's award winners include, the people who are going to boycott, the Cool J didn't say anything, but with this old choreographer, Carmen something, I can't even pronounce her last name, and she was, she's 86, she didn't want to go to anything.
	And Norman Lear, and I want to, and Norman Lear, I'm not going to, he's the one who's really the instigator, it seems to me.
	And I want to remind people that, we talked about this before, I'm going to talk about it again, maybe my last contribution to today's show.
	Norman Lear is the one who did All in the Family.
	And All in the Family portrayed a guy who was bullcrap.
	The main character, Archie Bunker, was a classic Democrat working class guy with all the opinions of a classic Democrat who would always vote straight ticket.
	My dad was like this.
	Straight ticket, all Democrats, all working party, big fan of Roosevelt.
	Talked about Roosevelt all the time.
	That's the guy that Archie Bunker is supposed to be.
	But no, because he didn't like the narrative, he twisted Archie Bunker to becoming a Republican.
	And there's no way in hell that that character existed in real life.
	It was a Hollywood creation, and it was just done to slam the Republicans.
	And very, very, very successful.
	Very, very successful.
	Extremely successful.
	But everyone who watched it, including myself, knew that guy was really a Democrat.
	There's no Republican in the world at that time that had those thoughts and opinions.
	And I thought that was probably the beginning of why I'm doing this show.
	I saw the bullcrap early.
	I saw the bullcrap early.
	I like that you said that he's probably the instigator of this boycott.
	As we know, he is the Norman Lear Foundation.
	They're the ones that write all the messaging into the script.
	Right.
	What is it?
	Modern Family examples.
	Let's finish the show with that clip.
	Okay, let me just see.
	Which one?
	It was the Numbers, I think.
	I think it was Norman Lear.
	Lear Foundation.
	Let me see.
	Numbers.
	Was it the Lear Foundation?
	Well, it was only one of two guys.
	I think it was Lear, yeah.
	Pretty sure.
	Because now, of course, it's not showing up.
	It would be great to end the show with that, but it's been quite a poor show for finding stuff.
	Yeah, well, it happens.
	Not a smooth show, let's put it that way.
	Norman Lear...
	We will not get the A the last show got.
	But then again, I gave the last show an A to the family.
	He goes, what grade do you give it?
	I gave it an A. What do we get?
	We got C donations.
	Yes, that's the point I was going to make.
	We do an A show and we get C donations.
	This show will probably do much better in donations.
	Really?
	Because we're sloppy.
	Okay, I have it here.
	It's Hollywood Health and Society, Martin Kaplan on behalf of the Norman Lear Foundation.
	So in the course of our work, this is in the two years, 11 to 13, 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired.
	We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years, 91 different television shows.
	There you go.
	That's the power of the Lear Foundation.
	Yeah, they go in there, write scripts for these guys, and they get edited here and there, but they're probably well-written scripts, but they had an agenda.
	Yep.
	Well, the machine is all-powerful, ladies and gentlemen.
	Be sure that you're not too affected by it.
	It's got a lot of power.
	Don't look at the sun.
	Do not look at the sun, for sure.
	I'm telling you, there's some Illuminati idea, something going on.
	All right, everybody.
	We will return on Thursday.
	Until then, remember us at thevorak.org slash NA. And coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, in the common law condo here in the Cludio, five by nine.
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	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley...
	Where this politics is alt-douchebag.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Antifob for me.
	And we will return on Thursday.
	Right here on No Agenda, you know.
	We always say.
	Adios, mofos!
	When you're hip and chipped, it's not enough to encrypt.
	Buy some Faraday gloves!
	All right, all left, let's pronounce Antifa.
	This is summer resistance, resistance, summer.
	Up there.
	This is summer resistance, resistance, summer.
	Antifa.
	What you say, being yourself, you're the hell.
	Any means, that's the start.
	Any means, that's the start.
	All right speeches have now been canceled.
	I did the right thing.
	Not only was it right, it was just...
	This is Mind Control.
	We are all slaves of Gitmo Nation.
	We are all slaves.
	All slaves.
	All right.
	All left.
	It's pronounced Antifa.
	People are no longer listening.
	It's like la-la-la-la-la-la.
	But you say to be yourself and you go to the house.
	But you say to be yourself and you go to the house.
	We are all slaves.
	All slaves.
	Every Confederate statue and every vestige of white supremacy has to go.
	Hey, how about the NBA? What about Thomas Jefferson?
	Define all right to me.
	You define me.
	He's attacking us.
	Give his daughter to a Jew.
	Give his daughter to a Jew.
	Anything's necessary.
	That statue is where it belongs.
	The statue is a symbol of nationalism.
	People are no longer listening.
	Nationalist is something different than racism.
	This is a slave revolt on all sides.
	Fah, bah, Antifa, bah, bah, Antifa.
	I don't need this hassle in my life.
	There are a pretty pathetic bunch of losers in general calling each other names everywhere.
	Someone's getting cornholed today.
	Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
	Right.
	Right.
	And the sun, the resistance, the summer.
	Right.
	Right.
	This is about summer, resistance, resistance, summer.
	Right.
	Right.
	And the sun, the resistance, the summer.
	Right.
	Right.
	This is about summer, resistance, resistance, summer.
	Right.
	Right.
	Antifa.
	Right.
	Antifa.
	Right. Antifa.
	Right. Antifa.
	Right.
	That's an enemy to humanity that needs to be stopped by enemies necessary.
	Right.
	We need to be able to come up with a way to say, how can we make sure never again?
	Anything's necessary.
	This can never happen again.
	It's pronounced Antifa.
	Antifa.
	That's an enemy to humanity that needs to be stopped by anything's necessary.
	Right?
	Right?
	We need to be able to come up with a way to say, how can we make sure never again?
	Right?
	Right?
	On anything necessary, this can never happen again.
	Right?
	Right?
	Antifa, of course, is short for anti-fascism. It's pronounced Antifa. Antifa. Antifa.
	Antifa.
	An enemy to humanity that needs to be stopped by anything that's necessary.
	Antifa.

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