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	ISIS is actually coming across the border, John!
	Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, August 24, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 958.
	This is No Agenda.
	Protecting your amygdala from embiggenments and coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet in downtown Austin Tejas, capital of the Drone Star State in the Cludeo.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the Zephyr was on time today, I think, I'm John C. DeVore.
	Ah, yes, always the standard Zephyr.
	Perfect.
	So I'm learning what a Cludeo is all about.
	As in Clu-Clu-Clu-Dio?
	As in Clu-Clu-Clu-Clu-Dio, yes.
	Christina's visiting from the lowlands with a girlfriend.
	And the Clu-Dio is the closet right off the guest bedroom.
	Man, girls bring a lot of stuff.
	She's not one of the light packers.
	No, she actually is, but it's amazing how much came out of these suitcases, and I'm just engulfed.
	I've got to take a picture of it.
	I'm engulfed in clothes here.
	There's no place to move.
	The only closet in the house?
	Well, it's the one where the studio is.
	Why would they use that?
	Well, actually, probably it helps the sound.
	Oh, the sound is beautiful.
	It's just I can barely open the door.
	Anyway, it's all good.
	We are on the air everywhere, sir.
	Good.
	So, she brought a girlfriend?
	Yeah.
	Is she hot?
	Yeah, totally.
	That's sick.
	You asked me.
	I only did it because you're always saying that to me, so I figured I'd turn the tables.
	Well done.
	Hey, the most emailed clip and song, I must have at least five different versions that came in.
	And Tina actually called it.
	We were watching TV. She's like, oh my god, that's an ISO. Antifa!
	I gotta say.
	We got another one here.
	Antifa!
	It just goes on and on and on.
	Everybody caught it.
	And it's so perfect.
	It's right in the rhythm.
	Antifa!
	Right in the rhythm.
	Very funny.
	There's another song that came in that cracked me up when I heard it.
	Oh, yeah, I know what you...
	Oh, well, yeah, we can actually play it now because it'll be in the end of show, but it's very fun.
	It's kind of in the line...
	It's funny because of the...
	Because it's...
	It's just funny because of the way it's structured.
	Yes.
	Pull those statues down and then we'll burn all of the books.
	Let me see what life is like without historical crooks.
	In other words, rewrite the timeline.
	In other words, kill the white man.
	Yeah!
	Dean the Fat Nerd.
	Very good, Dean.
	He's on a roll with his little songs here.
	So I guess he does Crosby.
	I'm sorry, Sinatra.
	Sinatra, yeah.
	So he can just do a Sinatra song.
	So that opens up a lot of possibilities.
	Once you have Sinatra or Bennett, you can do any of the American Songbook, then that stuff writes itself.
	Yeah.
	And, of course, it continues, even in my backyard here, downtown, actually just a little north of downtown Austin.
	Well, the decision was made by a group of people, according to the university president, but he did give the order to take those statues down.
	Take those statues down?
	At UT Austin, then you'll notice that things look quite different this morning.
	All along the campus, you will see blank slabs of granite just like that one.
	Now, I wish I could tell you who was on top of that granite, which statue was there, but they have all of the names covered up.
	I have no idea!
	There's a black piece of paper, a black piece of tape there, and there are four of them that have been removed.
	They include all military or political leaders of the Confederacy, General Robert E. Lee, former Texas Governor James Stephen Hogg, Albert Sidney Johnston, and John H. Reagan.
	Racists, all of them.
	Earlier this morning or late last night, however you want to look at it, they did bring in cranes here to start removing those statues.
	If we understand there were a handful of people gathered here watching, also discussing what was going on, but no trouble as we've seen in other parts of the country.
	Now, I did find a copy of the letter from the university president, Greg Fendis, on the school's website.
	It says that he had formed a task force back in 2015...
	After the church shootings in Charleston, South Carolina, they began discussing the impact of these statues on different people throughout the community.
	But then, after what happened last weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia, that is when he met again with students, faculty and alumni and decided to remove these statues and then relocate them.
	From what we understand, the statues of Lee, Johnston and Reagan are all being moved to the Briscoe Center for American History.
	The statue of former Governor Hogg will be relocated, and they haven't decided where, but they may put that somewhere else on this campus.
	Ooh, good.
	Some controversy in our future.
	That's nice.
	Yeah, moving it to somewhere else.
	I think another target I think you should get ready for.
	I think they should tear down the Alamo.
	Wow.
	Well, you know, the cool thing about the Alamo in San Antonio, the only original piece is the door.
	I didn't know it was rebuilt to that extreme.
	I'm pretty sure it's just the door.
	I haven't heard that.
	Did you have that?
	Somebody verify that.
	Because the place is really beat up.
	Oh yeah, it's a little disappointing when you go there.
	You think, oh, there's nothing to it.
	Yeah, there really isn't.
	Alamo, that's a good one.
	Which would be fine.
	They should get rid of it because it really is an insult to the Mexicans.
	I'm sure you heard about the ESPN announcer, the play-by-play guy, Robert Lee.
	Chinese guy named Robert Lee.
	It's not Robert E. Lee, it's just Robert Lee.
	I have a little clip just for the kicker at the end.
	ESPN pulling an Asian-American announcer from its upcoming broadcast of a University of Virginia football game all because of his name.
	Because his name happens to be Robert Lee.
	And unfortunately for him, he happens to share the same name as the Confederate Civil War General, Robert E. Lee.
	And you know, ESPN is all worried that somehow this guy's name itself Where did this alternate universe story come from?
	Came from the alternate universe.
	That's right.
	It is the alternative universe.
	Did you read the Scott Adams piece on hallucinations?
	No, no, I didn't.
	Was it good?
	It's his latest blog thing.
	Yes, it's quite good.
	In fact, it was my wife who read it and told me to read it.
	Uh-huh.
	And it's a version of the alternate universe theory.
	But he brings up...
	He brings up a...
	Number of interesting points, and I want to reiterate one of them.
	And it's about the alternate universe.
	If your side wins, then you're all in.
	And if your side loses, you dream all this crazy stuff up, which we've seen to an extreme this time because it's never really gone this far.
	As it has.
	But I want to remind people of a classic example of this, which began, it didn't, that I know, it didn't begin with Reagan, because Reagan was, you know, kind of old.
	When he left office, he was not going to run again for a third term.
	But it began with Clinton in earnest.
	And if you remember, everybody's talking about Bill Clinton.
	He's going to run for a third term.
	Well, they said that about Obama, too.
	They said it about Bush.
	Oh, well, I think with Bush, it was, they're going to, he was going to declare martial, it's always the same, really, martial law, martial law, yeah, martial law, and then we'll have a third term.
	No, it started with Clinton, and it went to Bush, and Bush did the same, the same thing, oh, he's going to run for a third term, he's going to be king, and all the rest of it.
	Yes, I remember now.
	Yeah.
	And then they did the same thing with Obama.
	Obama gets in.
	And he's going to, oh, he's going to declare martial law at the end.
	He's going to run for a third term and become king and wreck the country.
	Yes.
	And we can expect, unless they manage to somehow get Trump not to run for the second term, which is, he's going to be the oldest president ever.
	And so he might just drop out and give it to Pence.
	But...
	If he runs, but he's already collecting money to run in 2020, so he would get a second term, then everyone would freak out and start making up the same bull crap that he's going to run for a third term, even though he'd be like 90.
	I mean, it's a very funny article by Scott Adams, and it's well worth reading.
	You know, I kind of stopped reading Scott Adams, and the reason really is because I have Periscope on my phone, and there's only one account that I follow, if that's him.
	I condemned him for this.
	Yeah, he should be condemned.
	It's too much.
	It's too much.
	And the Pope had...
	I didn't get that.
	I've only...
	I have not watched...
	You're talking about his videos.
	Yeah, well, that's the Periscope is his videos.
	Yeah, Periscope videos.
	And so he's got the camera one inch from his face, and it's like he looks like somebody from 1984.
	Yeah, I don't care about that.
	It's just too much.
	He's like four or five times a day.
	It's too much.
	I'm not interested about that.
	And then you start...
	Get a show, Scott.
	Get a show.
	Yeah.
	Well, the pull the statues down has propagated, as I'm sure it will, all over the world.
	There's all kinds of statues that are going to be coming down.
	I can certainly see a lot of perceived war memorials and all kinds of stuff in Europe.
	I think this is great.
	Yeah, well, here's Scandinavia, our neighbors.
	The decision to remove the name of Hector Langevin from the Prime Minister's office building has now sparked a debate about other buildings in this country.
	Now, some teachers in Ontario are raising concerns over schools named after Canada's first Prime Minister, Sir John A. Macdonald.
	The Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario has now approved a motion that, quote, calls upon all I love that he was the architect of the genocide of indigenous peoples,
	which means we, I mean, just wait for the Redskins.
	This is going to come to such a brewing point.
	Well, you know, now that you mention the Redskins, it's possible that all this that we're witnessing has always been about the Redskins because that's one place where the Liberals have dropped the ball.
	They cannot get these guys to change the name of that team.
	Now, this guy, he's also on the, I think, the $10 bill in Scandinavia?
	$5 or $10 bill?
	Should be.
	Which, of course, we have to watch out for as well, because if you see anybody who's against these races, you should tell them to burn their money.
	Hey, you got a no agenda show.
	No, just burn it.
	It's much more fun.
	Anyway, here's the president of the teachers union.
	His name is on schools and is on money and is in other places in this country for those reasons, is it not?
	And what is wrong with honoring that part of his legacy?
	Well, I think there's a difference between honoring that part of his legacy on a highway or on a dollar bill or on a $10 bill.
	Really?
	But when you have his name on a public school where, you know, arguably, and I don't think this is arguable, I think it's an absolute, that all of our children need to be able to be safe and feel inclusive.
	Safe?
	And feel like the name that is on that building...
	Is the sign going to fall on him?
	They don't feel safe.
	I'm glad you picked up on it.
	Yeah, they don't feel safe because of the name.
	To be able to be safe and feel inclusive and to feel like the name that is on that building represents the values that we have as a society.
	And, you know, the Truth and Reconciliation was very clear about the treatment of our Indigenous populations.
	And I think those are the reasons behind this.
	So I don't think at this point there's any conversation around changing the name of the McDonald-Cartier Highway or getting his face off the $10 bill.
	But our schools, our public schools, are something vastly different.
	Oh!
	Yeah, he thinks so.
	If you're going to take his name off to school because the kids don't feel safe, it's even worse to have a $10 bill or whatever bill it is that he's on.
	The kid's not going to feel safe holding the bill.
	No!
	Very unsafe.
	Or he's going to be on a freeway named after the guy.
	You can't drive on that.
	Daddy, don't go so fast.
	You're going to kill us on this horrible freeway.
	Meanwhile, a lot of people sent me the following.
	I must be making the rounds on the social medias.
	The picture of the Lincoln Memorial, which we had discussed, will be defaced.
	And so it's a piece of the memorial, which has an inscription, and then underneath it, there's a little...
	I'm going to read this.
	So the inscription is, My enemies pretend that I am now carrying on the war for the sole purpose of abolition.
	So long as I am president, it shall be carried on for the sole purpose of restoring the Union.
	And then underneath it says, Interview with Alexander Randall, Washington, D.C., August 19, 1864.
	Lincoln had issued the Emancipation Proclamation two years earlier, but he was still working to convince people in the North that the Civil War was being fought for the principle of Union, not the abolition of slavery.
	Get your Sharpies, because this has to go.
	Oh, yeah.
	This has to go.
	You know, I was thinking about this the other day.
	Does this not settle the dispute once and for all?
	I didn't even know this.
	I'm very surprised.
	Yes.
	I was thinking about this, and people were saying, well, the whole war was about slavery and slavery and slavery.
	And I have to recall some of them, because I studied that period.
	They're almost arguing that the North...
	The North was actually worse than the South in terms of being racist.
	I mean, they didn't even want Blacks in the North at all, and the few that got up there, you know, they were kind of like shunned.
	I would, I just, anyway, the argument can go on, but I keep recommending this Kenneth Stamp book when people want to, you can read about all the different arguments that took place during that era about what this war was about.
	And the war between the states is what it should be called.
	The war between, and we're going to say that, the war between the states, because this, what we're witnessing now, is an actual civil war.
	Much more like a civil war.
	In a police state like we were in, and it's not going to get that far.
	Oh yes, and again, what you're seeing, people pulling down statues of oppressors, is because people feel oppressed themselves right now.
	It's a way to vent, and it's very understandable, but there's a lot more we could pull down.
	I've got some obelisks in mind.
	I did think it was Mark's...
	Oh, a big obelisk.
	Mark Stein had a...
	How about that giant Washington Memorial, the monster?
	You would pull him down?
	The big one.
	Oh, bad idea.
	Isn't that that giant thing in the middle of the mall?
	Yeah, it's huge.
	That's the Washington Memorial, right?
	Isn't that the name of it?
	I believe so.
	Washington Monument.
	Well, it's got to go.
	Washington Monument, a memorial.
	Monument.
	Washington Monument, right.
	Yeah.
	Mark Stein sometimes fills in for Tucker, and I guess he filled in for Rush Limbaugh.
	He used to fill in for Rush Limbaugh all the time.
	I never listened to that.
	But he had a funny take on Antifa and the statues and Black Lives Matter.
	And so half these young white people, the ones toppling the statue of Johnny Reb, the Civil War guy...
	In Durham, North Carolina, most of them are pasty-faced white, young white people who've decided to check out of being white people, and they're effectively doing a sort of identity politics minstrel show.
	It's the 21st century version of a 19th century minstrel show.
	But they don't actually put on the boot polish anymore, but they're still saying, oh, I really wish I was black, so here I'll topple this Civil War statue.
	And on the other side, you've got these dress-up Nazis.
	Again, they're basically like the edgier version of the Civil War re-enactors.
	Camping around with their ticky corches, pretending to be stormtroopers, because for as long as they can remember, they've been told that white people are Nazis anyway.
	If you tell Mitt Romney he's a Nazi, if you tell Donald Trump, most of whose family are now Jewish and orthodox observant Jews...
	If you tell all these people they're Nazis, why would he be surprised that a few of these young white guys don't think, hey, this Nazi thing sounds pretty cool.
	LARPing is what it is.
	LARPing.
	Well, nailed it.
	Very good.
	LARPing and cosplay.
	Yes, and there's lots of virtue signaling from Hollywood, and of course, George and Amal couldn't be left out.
	In response to protests in Charlottesville, Virginia earlier this month, George Clooney and his humanitarian lawyer wife, Amal Clooney, have donated $1 million to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a U.S. non-profit that monitors extremists and domestic hate groups.
	The couple, who recently became parents after their twins Ella and Alexander were born in June, released a joint statement about the incident which saw a woman die while protesting against white nationals.
	They said, what happened in Charlottesville and what is happening in communities across our country demands our collective engagement to stand up to hate.
	The donation comes from the Clooney Foundation for Justice, which the couple established in 2016 to promote justice in classrooms and courtrooms around the world.
	Ah, very good, George.
	By the way, Amal.
	Did they name one of their kids, hey, did they name one of their kids Allah?
	Allah?
	No, I don't know.
	Well, they said the kid's name.
	Oh, we'll have to go back.
	Was it the end there?
	No, it was at the beginning.
	Oh.
	No, no.
	Her name is Amal.
	Maybe you got confused.
	No, they named the two kids, and I thought he said Amal.
	In response to protests in Charlottesville, Virginia earlier this month, George Clooney and his humanitarian lawyer wife, Amal Clooney, have donated $1 million to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a U.S. non-profit that monitors extremists and domestic hate groups.
	The couple who recently became parents after their twins Ella and Alexander were born...
	Yes, Aloh Snakbar is his name.
	Aloh Snakbar!
	Yeah, I guess.
	So I really wanted to find something from Southern Poverty Law Center, you know, because this group interests me, and they certainly don't need their million dollars.
	They have about half a billion in the bank.
	Just go look up their 990.
	They do 300 million a year.
	It's really crazy how much money they bring in.
	They've done a good job.
	But I did find, and this was beautiful on C-SPAN, I found a guy from ProPublica.
	And ProPublica is, you know, we've had our eye on this outfit.
	His name is A.C. Thompson, and they are doing a project called Documenting Hate.
	It's very similar to the Southern Poverty Law Center's heat map of hate groups, which has the most—it's like Girl Scout troops on it and stuff.
	Not really, but there's definitely borderline groups on it that really—I mean, you can call anything a hate group, I guess.
	And I pulled a couple of clips because I thought it was rather interesting.
	Here's his intro explaining ProPublica, which we've always wanted to know a bit more about.
	You're meeting A.C. Thompson.
	He's with ProPublica, the publication and one of the main people behind their documenting hate project.
	Joining us first a little bit about ProPublica.
	Tell our viewers what that is.
	So ProPublica is a nine-year-old non-profit investigative newsroom.
	We have about 75 employees.
	Most of them are reporters.
	And we have won the Pulitzer Prize, I believe, four times now.
	And so who backs your publication?
	Who supports it?
	You know, a lot of different folks do.
	Big philanthropic foundations, individual donors.
	Increasingly we're trying to actually develop some businesses and bring in some money, but basically we give our stories away for free to sort of fill the breach in the news media that's developed over the last 15 years where there's fewer and fewer investigative reporters out there.
	So if you're a news outlet and you want to run a ProPublica story, you are absolutely able to do that for free.
	One is, well, three things, really starting with the last.
	So he's advocating that their journalism can be used by anybody because their journalism is right journalism because they don't have any commercial interests.
	Except, it sounded like they're working on, he said, business to try and get some money in.
	It sounded like they're on the cusp of doing some commercial stuff.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, which would break their model.
	But more interesting...
	I don't know if it would...
	I mean, what if...
	It's like us taking commercial money.
	Of course that would change it.
	Well, I don't...
	Their model is not...
	Our model is we can't take commercial money because it would hurt our product.
	That's what I thought their model was, too.
	I didn't hear that.
	No, but they're non-profit.
	Well, just because they're non-profit doesn't mean that they...
	Give a crap about, you know...
	Believe me.
	Of course I know that.
	I think they're pro-propaganda.
	They should change their name.
	Ah, well that's a different...
	But, and I'm jumping ahead here, the first call that came in was this question.
	AC Thompson with us from California.
	First call for you comes from Mike.
	He's in Maryland, Republican line.
	You're on with the guest.
	Go ahead, Mike.
	Hi, AC. Who's your largest private funder?
	What's his name?
	I have no idea.
	It's Soros!
	Everybody knows that.
	I have no idea.
	He's a liar.
	Yes.
	I have no idea.
	And then it's just done.
	The call's done.
	Of course he's a liar.
	Then the whole wind-up, yeah, we got, you know, philanthropic people, we got rich donors, but we don't, I don't know.
	When they started business, they got Soros.
	Soros must be, they must fear something about Soros.
	He's going to pull the plug.
	Well, I believe that we're going to do some business stuff to get some money and may have been a veiled message saying, hey, we're hard up here.
	You better, hey, George, cut a check, please.
	I would like to know what their numbers are.
	Their numbers are in the millions.
	It's not that much, though.
	It's like in the 10, 10 a year.
	10 million?
	Yeah, for 75 people, though.
	Oh, well, they overstaffed.
	Well, it's free money.
	Okay, now we move on.
	Why the hate project?
	What led to the creation of this project?
	Yeah, there was a sort of interest in our newsroom from two different camps.
	So my friends in the nerd side, the data folks, they were interested because...
	By the way, that's so condescending.
	We need to stop that.
	I'm against this.
	Nerds, the nerd folks, the data folks.
	It's very degrading.
	You know, the funny thing is, I'm going to have to throw this in.
	A lot of nerds, especially the women, don't find it degrading at all.
	They think of it as a compliment.
	I think women want to be called geeks, not nerds.
	There's a difference.
	Okay, well, I can't...
	When I had my...
	I had to brush up a dust-up with Veronica Belmont.
	Yes.
	Over this.
	Yes.
	And I can't remember what was the term, nerd or geek.
	I've kind of kept track of it, and I think the girls love to be called geeks.
	I'm a geek.
	Okay, well, we'll let it slide.
	I don't care.
	But it doesn't matter.
	It's degrading.
	It's not nice.
	You talk folks, like those folks over there, that folksy stuff.
	When it comes down to it, you're going to want your dude named Ben to save your ass, Broseph.
	What led to the creation of this project?
	Yeah, there was a sort of interest in our newsroom from two different camps.
	So my friends in the nerd side, the data folks, they were interested because they realized that there was a paucity of accurate data about hate crimes in the U.S. The federal statistics are frankly a joke, and the federal government will tell you that.
	They're compiled by the FBI. Oh, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	The FBI's numbers are a joke and they'll tell you that?
	They will?
	Well, I want to see that.
	Hate crime has been something that has been tracked for a while now.
	We've been tracking the tracking.
	And now to say the federal government numbers are crap?
	You've got to believe our numbers?
	The FBI keeps tracking them, but they're crap?
	Okay.
	The federal statistics are frankly a joke, and the federal government will tell you that.
	They're compiled by the FBI. And about 20% of the law enforcement agencies in the country don't participate in the hate crimes program.
	And then a lot of the ones that do nominally participate don't submit good data.
	So the folks in our data shop were fascinated by that.
	For me, I was fascinated by the stories that we were seeing around the election time and in the buildup to the election of what seemed to be a new wave of racist violence and bigotry that had political overtones.
	And so I was interested in the narratives of We got together and we said, hey, what we're going to do is create a platform where anyone who believes they've been the victim of a bias incident or a hate crime can submit their story to us.
	We will build a coalition of newsrooms, and we will go out and investigate and vet those stories, and that's what we've done.
	And we have collected more than 3,000 incidents so far.
	Woo!
	3,000!
	Boy, that'll really knock out the FBI's records.
	Correct.
	So let me get this straight.
	So they think that the government data is shit, probably because it's not showing what they want to see.
	Not high enough.
	Not high enough.
	Whatever they want to see.
	More of a hateful country than the FBI wants to admit.
	Exactly.
	So we need to create our own data.
	And the way we do it is we go to people and say, tell us your story.
	Because, yeah, that is very trustworthy.
	Right.
	The...
	So how does he do this?
	Well, they verify.
	They verify it.
	Oh, and you know where this is going.
	I mean, obviously.
	Do you know that all of this project is for one thing and one thing only?
	To destroy the country.
	Well, no, that's the outcome.
	No, this is all about Trump.
	Hello?
	Oh, yeah.
	Hello, pro-pro-propaganda.
	They get paid from donors to do this, and they have new results, and of course we know what's going on.
	This is why we need to do this project now!
	What we have are all these accounts, and we go out and we verify the accounts, and if they look suspicious, we...
	I understand that he's using the term account as an incident, and someone's...
	Recalling of the incident, an account.
	But when you say the word account and verified in the same breath, it's weird.
	It makes me think of Twitter verified.
	It's unusual usage, yes.
	It's interesting, isn't it?
	What we have are all these accounts.
	Maybe you're going to get a little blue checkmark on your jacket if you've been verified, if you have a verified hate crime account.
	That's a great idea.
	Right?
	Like, verified victim of hate crime.
	That could be cool.
	What we have are all these accounts.
	And we go out and we verify the accounts.
	And if they look suspicious, we throw them out of our database.
	But when we verify these accounts, we find sort of three major trends.
	And one is what seems to be a surge in anti-Semitism.
	The second is what is clear.
	Do you hear what he has?
	Listen, he's doing data.
	The data folks.
	The data shop.
	But why does he use these words?
	We find sort of three major trends.
	And one is what seems to be...
	Seems to be.
	Is the report incomplete?
	Do you have doubts?
	Seems to be.
	Major trends.
	Seems to be is wrong.
	Yeah, well, not if you don't have an answer.
	Trends.
	And one is what seems to be a surge in anti-Semitism.
	The second is...
	A surge should be purely obvious.
	There shouldn't be a seems to be a surge.
	Surges mean there's like a big thing happening.
	It's happening.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	A surge could be a big surge, a small surge.
	It seems to be a trend.
	Yeah.
	Eh.
	Yeah, exactly.
	...surge in anti-Semitism.
	The second is what is clearly a rash of anti-immigrant sentiments.
	A rash.
	This is very scientific.
	Is that a technical term?
	Very scientific, this study.
	A rash.
	A rash.
	How do you use rash as a...
	Well, we'll be checking on it.
	We need to do something.
	But it would be worth looking up.
	Yeah, because a rash, it is a...
	Let's see if it's a...
	Okay.
	Rash.
	Here we go.
	Characterized by or showing too great haste or lack of consideration, acting or tending too hastily.
	Hmm.
	Merriam-Webster, maybe.
	Let's see.
	Archaic use is in a rash manner.
	Hmm...
	I mean, I understand it, but I've...
	I've heard the word used this way, but I'm...
	It's old.
	...a rash of something, meaning a rash of something.
	Yeah, but rash, isn't a rash just something that you get a little ointment and it's gone?
	So it's not that bad, or...
	Yeah, I think it means it's not that bad.
	Or a rash that's spreading.
	It implies not that bad.
	Or a rash.
	It's just a rash.
	It's a rash of violence.
	How about a rash that, a rash spreads, a spreading rash.
	How about that?
	He didn't say that.
	No, but I'm making it up for him because he's so unclear.
	It's rashest.
	A rash of anti-immigrant sentiments.
	So this is people saying, get out of my country.
	You don't belong here.
	This isn't your country.
	That sort of thing.
	And then the third thing is people who are behaving in a racist manner, and they are basically attributing their racism or connecting it to President Trump in some way.
	There we go.
	Get out of my country.
	President Trump doesn't want you here.
	Or they're saying, you know, I'm going to spray paint a swastika and I'm going to spray paint Vote for Trump next to it.
	You know, something like that.
	Yeah, beautiful.
	That's not going to be rigged.
	Well, we're going to see it now.
	There's no way an agent provocateur would ever do that.
	No.
	So that's what this is all about.
	And we know where the money's coming from to fund this.
	And this one throwaway clip here is the definition of a hate crime.
	And so when it comes to defining how you put stories out there, particularly because of hate crimes, how do you define a hate crime then?
	And what makes it something that be worth a story for the website?
	Thank you.
	You know, so...
	For hate crimes, we use basically the federal definition, and so that is going to be a crime motivated by bias against somebody because of their identity, whether it's religious, whether it's ethnic, whether it's their sexual orientation, etc.
	But we also are looking at lower-level incidents of harassment and bigotry that are the kind of things that don't get tracked in the data at all, in the crime data.
	So now we're tracking hate...
	But we're attaching hate to crime.
	Because hate is out there.
	Sure, there's tons of hate.
	There's always been hate.
	But now, hate is now going to be tracked separately.
	As harassment.
	Yes.
	They're the kind of things that don't get tracked in the data at all, in the crime data.
	Because they're not necessarily crimes, but they're incredibly disheartening and disruptive to people.
	It's not a crime.
	Well, but I think what he was, yeah, he's conflating it, and that's the whole point.
	There is a federal statute, there's a federal code about a hate crime, and it does indeed say if it's motivated by bias against gender, race, religion, etc., and there are minimum term limits.
	I have to stop this for a second.
	Yes, we do.
	No, I'm going to have to stop this for a reason of the point of information.
	You use the word conflate.
	I've used the word conflate numerous times on this show, but neither one of us would have used the word conflate a year or two years ago.
	This is a new word that's come into the lexicon, and we've adopted it for some reason, even though I keep hearing it mostly from the liberals.
	Mostly from the news media.
	The news media started saying conflate, conflate, conflate, referring to two things being brought together as one.
	And I'm not complaining that you used it because I use it.
	I like the word.
	I just thought I'd throw that out there so people would...
	So I'm just pointing this out to people to show that we're self-aware.
	Ben, thank you for pointing that out.
	I concur.
	I found it as soon as you said it.
	I said, that's interesting.
	He used that word.
	I'm sure I'm not immune to being indoctrinated.
	I think it is a good word.
	I think that this is a word that's been recently introduced into the lexicon of the United States of Americans.
	And I like it.
	It's a word that works.
	Yeah, it works for me too.
	I'm worried about it because I know where it came from and I'm worried that it's something else that's going on that we might not be aware of.
	So I'm just saying we have to be self-aware.
	Go on.
	Sorry.
	Back to the show.
	That's very good.
	We're always looking to improve our speech.
	Always.
	Back to the show.
	Back to the show.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, so the hate crime, and it still remains a very odd topic for me.
	If you commit a crime against somebody, isn't there, well, if it's a violent crime, that must mean there's some hate.
	And if you steal something, I guess if you go, I'm going to rob that faggot, that would probably be declassified as a hate crime, even though it should be, I'm going to rob him because he's a faggot.
	But it's just, it's very, very, very...
	Right, you've always been...
	Very against this, yes.
	You have been kind of...
	Concerned about this getting out of control where everything is a hate crime.
	And it started with bullying.
	We tracked bullying.
	You go back in the show notes, go back five, six, seven years, you'll see that bullying was an actual headline topic in the show notes, and that slowly changed to where we are today with the hate crimes.
	And as we know, in the UK, even speaking hatefully is illegal if you do that on social media.
	Right.
	It's...
	We're on the path.
	We're right behind you.
	I think we've concluded this is a First Amendment thing.
	Yes.
	An attempt to stifle free speech.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	And that is, I think, about all I have...
	We'll have to keep an eye on these guys.
	Other than the UK now, just going back to the statues, there's now talk of, this is from the Guardian, of having this statue devoted to Admiral Nelson.
	Yeah, pull it down.
	Pull it down, yeah.
	Yeah, pull it down.
	Yeah, take all your famous heroes and pull those statues down and shoot those lions.
	Blow those lion statues up.
	They're representative of something bad.
	It's fantastic.
	I actually find this to be hilarious.
	Well, maybe, you know, of course, my thinking is a lot of this stuff should have been pulled down a while ago and put in museums because it's art.
	Yeah.
	I feel bad about that one that was ruined by this jerk-off statue of a little anonymous kid and they pull it down and it got all bent and ruined.
	Somebody put some effort in that.
	They should be in a museum.
	Yeah, I agree.
	So we can put up some new stuff.
	I mean, there's a statue of Che Guevara, I believe, run in the Bay Area, but that's okay.
	Even though if you look into him, you'll find he's kind of a creep.
	And creeps are okay.
	Creeps are fine.
	Creeps are fine.
	We like the creeps.
	I want to thank everybody for helping us fill up our list of nicknames for the president, things he's been accused of.
	It's really been quite phenomenal.
	It's a nice list.
	It's a great list.
	We have, what was added recently?
	Racist Orange Cheeto, Fascist, Literally Hitler, Mango Mussolini.
	These are very, very good names.
	So I watched...
	The speech in Phoenix and then the VFW follow-up.
	Oh, good.
	They're two different speeches, but they were handled by the media.
	And I think the media has decided that they didn't get away with anything, so they're going to just say what they want to say.
	Right.
	And they just excoriated the president.
	And then even Matt Taibbi tweeted about this most unhinged speech.
	Oh, I've seen.
	And I watched...
	I watched the Phoenix speech.
	Phoenix was not a speech to the nation, but the media presented it as such.
	It was a Hitler rally.
	A Hitler-Ugend rally, yes.
	So, I watched it, and you and I both have watched entire, and you went to one of them.
	them.
	Yes, I did.
	Entire Trump speeches, stump speeches.
	And he would do these, you know, get these a lot of people.
	When he first started out, I observed that he really only had 20 minutes of material.
	And then he ended up with about an hour's worth.
	And he would tell it pretty much a variation of the exact same material time and time again.
	This speech was not only no different than a classic Trump rally speech.
	It was probably a little more sedate, except for the, I think about an eight-minute rant he did on the media.
	About the media, yeah.
	Quoting himself, mostly, and saying that they're full of crap.
	I said that!
	I said that!
	These are my words!
	Yeah, and he'd read his stuff, he'd read it exactly, and the media was there, supposedly.
	This was not a great hall, this was not like a university, it was like a flat, and I don't know why anyone would even go to this.
	And then there's, I guess the media was in the back, you couldn't see them when they actually did show the crowd, and then he would talk about all the red lights are going off as he excoriates them.
	He goes on and on.
	But to listen to the reporting of this, which was the thing.
	And I got to stop this clip that I'm going to play or want to play here, which is this one.
	This is the NBC.
	NBC was really on him here.
	This is the NBC summary of the Trump speeches.
	Healer or antagonist.
	The answer may depend upon which Donald Trump you heard over the last 24 hours.
	After casting himself as the victim of bad news coverage at a fired up rally in Phoenix last night, blasting everyone from the media to fellow Republicans, the president appeared in Nevada today, where he returned to a call for unity based on common values.
	The head-snapping change of tones comes as the nation's former intelligence boss offers a troubling assessment of the commander-in-chief.
	Our national correspondent, Peter Alexander, has more.
	Tonight, more White House whiplash at the American Legion National Convention in Reno, a declaration of unity.
	It is time to heal the wounds that divide us.
	A presidential 180 from last night's unbridled defenses in Arizona.
	Repeal and replace!
	Repeatedly taking aim at the media.
	The very dishonest media, and they're bad people.
	They don't like our country.
	I really believe that.
	President Trump abandoning the discipline displayed just 24 hours earlier, his scripted Afghanistan speech.
	Instead, accusing the press of misrepresenting his highly criticized response to Charlottesville.
	They don't want to report.
	That I spoke out forcefully against hatred, bigotry and violence and strongly condemned the neo-Nazis, the white supremacists and the KKK. But Mr.
	Trump omitted his own most controversial words.
	Hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides.
	On many sides.
	You also had people that were...
	Very fine people on both sides.
	Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who briefed the President during his transition, now questioning his fitness for office.
	I worry about, frankly, you know, the access to nuclear codes.
	On stage, playing to the crowd like an aging rocker, delivering riff after riff.
	Antifa!
	May I have the piece of Clapper?
	It's a little longer.
	Can I play that now?
	Yeah, play it.
	I don't know when I've listened and watched...
	By the way, he was on with Don Lemon, the overnight sensation.
	Something like this from a president that I found more disturbing.
	Having some understanding of the levers of power that are available to a president if he chooses to exercise them.
	I found this downright scary and disturbing.
	It's interesting to contrast last night's teleprompter Trump performance versus...
	Teleprompter Trump.
	That's a good one.
	He didn't write that.
	He didn't write that.
	Someone whispered that.
	No, it's floating around.
	Teleprompter Trump.
	Good one.
	Teleprompter Trump performance versus tonight, which is, of course, the real Trump.
	Just as it was in the unglued press conference.
	Unglued.
	That's a new one.
	I just find this extremely disturbing.
	Disturbing.
	Questioning his fitness?
	Yes, I do.
	The question is fitness.
	I really question his ability to, his fitness to be in this office.
	And I also am beginning to wonder about his motivation for it.
	Maybe he is looking for a way out.
	Is he a threat to national security, the president?
	Well, he certainly could be.
	Again, having some understanding of the levers that a president can exercise, I worry about, frankly, access to nuclear codes.
	If he's in a fitted peak, he decides to do something about Kim Jong-un, there's actually very little to stop him.
	Yeah, you know, they tried this.
	They tried the nuclear codes thing.
	It didn't really play out.
	They tried it in the primaries, and Hillary Clinton was talking about it all the time.
	Yeah, it didn't work, and it's not going to work now.
	No, I don't see why.
	Let me play you an ISO, one of the ISOs, but this is the one that's probably the best.
	This is the NBC summary of ISO, Jeff Flick, from that same speech you heard earlier.
	Him giving.
	This is NBC. They do this report and this is just plain...
	I'm going to play this.
	It's inaccurate.
	And I'm going to say how it could have been fixed and I don't understand why they didn't do it properly but this is again the kind of I don't know if it's just the editors at these networks or what, but they're just doing this sort of thing, and it gets on your nerves after a while.
	Let's play this NBC summary, ISO Jeff Flake.
	Even antagonizing members of his own party, like Senator Jeff Flake.
	Who's weak on borders, weak on crime.
	House speaker.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Now, the problem with that report is that he never mentioned Jeff Flake.
	Not by name, no.
	He made a point of not mentioning Flake or McCain.
	He made a big deal about it.
	He said, I'm not going to mention anybody's names, but...
	And then he kind of beat around the bush, and he threw that in there, kind of implying it was Jeff.
	It was implying...
	They have to...
	When they make this report, they have to make that clear.
	They did not do that with this ISO. Why?
	You mean, journalistically speaking, they need to do that?
	Yes.
	He never said this was...
	They play the quote of him doing the Jeff Flake thing.
	Yeah.
	Jeff Flake.
	But he's not talking about Jeff Flake.
	This is inaccurate.
	Yes.
	And these networks do this all the time.
	Yes, it probably was talking about Jeff Flake.
	Probably.
	But he never said it.
	He never said Jeff Flake.
	Let me hear it again.
	Even antagonizing members of his own party, like Senator Jeff Flake.
	He never did that.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	Boy.
	And so this kind of inaccuracy starts to build up after a while.
	And the worst part is people start to notice it.
	I mean, we notice this constantly.
	Yeah, but that's because it's in your alt-right talking points.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	Which is what we read every show, the alt-right talking points before we start to make sure we're on the right track.
	And the thing is to clean it up.
	I mean, yeah, okay, maybe this is, you know, their version of, well, we're just kind of making it clear because that's what he was talking about, even though he never said that.
	No, you can't do that.
	That's like taking, that's taking advantage of, that's just kind of like fictionalizing the thing.
	He never said that was Jeff Flake.
	He just implied it was Jeff Flake.
	But they made it sound like he said specifically about Jeff Flake.
	And this is constant with the networks.
	They constantly do this.
	Well, the public's too stupid, so we just do it this way.
	No, you just have to do it.
	If you do it the right way, it's still...
	I mean, they did another thing in that longer clip where he says...
	Repeal and replace.
	And they had Trump screaming that repeal and replace.
	Trump was doing a character when he did that.
	I mean, you could take these quotes.
	They're just taking this out of context.
	He's clippable.
	He's highly, highly clippable.
	He's very clippable, especially out of context when he's screaming something.
	Yeah, but there's no context left in our text-based universe.
	This is one of my gripes.
	I see it all the time, people texting back and forth and receiving the information through the filters they have running, and then, oh, I'm pissed off, and I'm going to send something back pissed off, and the other person's like, hey, I'm super, what is this?
	We have no context.
	It's very sad.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	We have emojis.
	There you go.
	Good work.
	Well, they need more of these emojis on these network shows.
	They should be popping up when they say, like, and even, you know, just a little ding, a little emoji with a halo, or ding, a little winking emoji.
	Like, it's a little joke.
	We're all in on it.
	I also caught something that I wanted to discuss.
	I don't know if I want to talk about it now or later, but this, well, actually, maybe we should.
	It's kind of interesting, but first, before we do that, I want to play this clip.
	This is the right-hand man clip.
	I was trying to get a clip that CBS showed on, or CBS or ABC, one of the two.
	They showed it on their little list of where they do their online stuff now.
	They have a kind of a clip list, and it goes from one to the other to the other.
	And there was a clip on here about a lawsuit that's going on that is underreported.
	And this lawsuit has to do with...
	This Russian guy.
	Let's see if I can find it.
	Magnitsky again?
	Magnitsky again?
	No, no, no.
	This is another guy that you never heard of.
	It's a gruesome or some crazy name.
	He's got a kind of a silly name.
	And he's suing BuzzFeed for slander.
	And it has to do with this report that, you know, the dossier.
	Ah, the Trump Golden Shower dossier.
	The Golden Shower Dossier.
	Anyway, let's play this clip, though.
	Because this clip kept coming up over and over.
	Every time I tried to play the dossier clip, this clip would come up.
	And then I noticed something within the clip.
	And I went back and I looked at the clip again to see what it was.
	Maybe it was a blip in the internet or something.
	And then I looked.
	I watched her and watched her.
	This is...
	Play this right-hand man clip and just listen to where the...
	The woman who is talking about the Trump secretary, how she refers to her and then kind of like chokes on a term she just refuses to say.
	And David Wright joins us now from near the president's New Jersey estate.
	David Ronagraph has been called the president's right hand.
	President Trump notoriously does not use email.
	She's been known to print emails for him.
	So what are investigators looking for here?
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	You watch her and she actually says she's been called the president's, she has been called the president's right hand And then she chokes because she can't say the word man.
	Let's hear it again.
	And David Wright joins us now from near the president's New Jersey estate.
	David Ronagraph has been called the president's right hand.
	President Trump notoriously...
	Can't even cover it up with anything.
	But this is what's going on.
	This is how the milieu, as you would say, works in news media right now.
	These people all have filters.
	This is exactly the opposite of what I said a minute ago.
	They have filters running...
	All the time.
	Tons of them.
	All of these things they can't say, that they're worried about.
	I mean, there was some fake email spoof that went around.
	CNN's like, we're not even going to mention what was said about Ivanka Trump.
	Or whatever it was.
	And the only thing I could find is that somehow someone claimed at Breitbart that Jared was a real cuckold.
	For real.
	In other words, meaning that he watches other men have sex with Ivanka.
	And they can't say that.
	It's true, he says.
	Well, we know it's a fact.
	But they can at least say it.
	Just say it.
	It can't say anything anymore.
	Well, so this guy is suing BuzzFeed for saying that he is a spammer and a scammer, and he runs a, I'll get his name, it's somewhere around here, he runs a web services operation out of Texas, where he does websites of different sorts, but he's not doing this stuff, but they accused him of it in this fabulous dossier where Trump has the women peeing on the bed that Obama slept in, supposedly.
	Right.
	Well, they're bringing this back.
	I had no idea.
	Well, they might as well.
	They're bringing back the nuclear coats.
	It's just rinse and repeat.
	We're just going through the whole thing again.
	You can predict what's next.
	Well, here's the clip from them bringing it back, and I've got to figure out which clip this is.
	Dossier is back, I'm guessing.
	Dossier?
	That would be it.
	It's one thing you have heard rumors in advance about what was in that intelligence dossier.
	Oh, man.
	For someone who gripes at me about bringing Rachel Maddow to the show.
	Uh-huh.
	Wow.
	You went there.
	It's one thing you have heard.
	Hold on a second.
	Before I'm condemned for this.
	And I know that you feel the same way when you bring a Rachel Maddow clip.
	Yeah.
	I'm flipping around and then there she is talking about the dossier and I'm thinking, oh my god, are you kidding me?
	And she is dead serious because apparently the group that was hired had said, this dossier is legitimate.
	They won't talk about the guy suing BuzzFeed for libel.
	And in fact, BuzzFeed has had to take the section of the just accurate dossier and remove this guy's name, thinking that would end a lawsuit.
	But no, the lawsuit is going on.
	It's going on in Miami.
	Nobody's talking about it.
	And as far as I'm concerned, if the lawsuit goes through and this guy wins a slander libel suit, the dossier is full of crap, obviously.
	But let's listen to what Rachel has to say, because as far as she's concerned, it's all true.
	It's one thing to have heard rumors in advance about what was in that intelligence dossier about Trump and Russia.
	Those rumors started about a year ago.
	It's another thing to have seen all that stuff in black and white once BuzzFeed published it in January.
	But the people who commissioned it say now publicly that it's true.
	That what's in that dossier is real and can be backed up.
	It's real!
	And that case looks like it may soon go public, which is a big deal because if the dossier really is right, what it has to say about Trump is not just compromise by a foreign government.
	It is overt and knowing collusion in the Russian attack.
	Joining us now is Rick Wilson, a Republican strategist.
	The Russian attack, John.
	Attack!
	We've been attacked.
	We've been attacked.
	These words, man.
	Words.
	A foreign government.
	It is overt and knowing collusion in the Russian attack.
	Joining us now is Rick Wilson, a Republican strategist who worked for a super PAC supporting Marco Rubio in 2016 and who was the star of my opening anecdote this evening.
	Rick, thank you very much for being with us tonight.
	It's nice to have you here.
	Thanks for having me, Rachel.
	So I wanted to get your reaction to this tonight, this news overall, just your reaction as a Republican.
	But I was also hoping you could talk a little bit, you could shed a little light for us on how people in politics first started hearing about the dossier before it ever got published.
	Well, sure.
	I mean, first off, I think the fact that the guys from Fusion today gave this extensive testimony and are willing to have that put out there in the public record and turned over 40,000 pages of documents should absolutely terrify Donald Trump's attorneys and the sort of constellation of media who have been denying and denying and denying that anything in the dossier is true and that anything the intelligence community has gathered on this guy is true.
	That 40,000 pages is what Oppo always has, and Intel always has a gigantic iceberg of information underneath the tip that you see above the ocean.
	And so this sort of thing has been swirling around for a long time, even before I got that phone call last summer.
	There have been rumors of Trump business entanglements and Trump financial entanglements with a variety of Russian oligarchs and Russian interests.
	And the Russian oligarchs and the Russian intelligence service and the Russian government are all basically tied together as the same entity.
	And those things have been floating around.
	We've been running some of that stuff down.
	As the individual accusations started to be made clear inside the political community, inside the sort of consultant world and folks who have some interesting overlaps between politics and intelligence and government, those things started to burble up more and more.
	We didn't know the exact source.
	We knew there was something out there, a package floating around out there of information.
	I didn't know it was from Christopher Steele or Fusion proper until January when the BuzzFeed document rolled out, but the information was certainly circulating.
	This guy goes on and on and on.
	Now, there's another interesting point about the slander suit that nobody's reporting on, which is a circuit court has determined that Christopher Steele, because of the slander suit, Can be forced to come from England, where he is.
	Extradition?
	And we can do an extradition for that?
	Because the British, and you probably know that the British have this thing about slander and libel that is so strong.
	You've got to be very careful.
	Yes, you've got to be very careful.
	And so apparently, according to the way it looks, is that the British will extradite him to testify.
	Yeah, in Britain, celebrities win big lawsuits all the time.
	All the time.
	Yeah, like a million, millions sometimes.
	Lots of money.
	And so they may extradite him.
	And once he shows up in the United States, it's assumed that he's going to be grabbed by Mueller.
	And brought in to testify about the dossier and its legitimacy and where he got this information and all the rest of it.
	So this guy's going to show up.
	I think he's going to come over unless BuzzFeed can settle, but I don't think that he can afford it.
	So they're going to try to fight this character, this Texas guy who was slandered in that dossier.
	Interesting.
	And this is turning out to be quite interesting.
	And Rachel, although she's completely clueless about any of this, as far as she's concerned, you know, it's just a...
	It's all bad.
	It's all bad.
	Trump, horrible.
	He's going to be out.
	He's going to be out.
	So I've now changed the show notes topic from the 25th to 25 for 45, which I think is kind of a cool one.
	So 25th Amendment for the 45th President.
	I like that.
	Actually, you could do 25 or 45.
	Maybe not.
	The Beatles song.
	No, that would be Chicago.
	I have two little clippies here, just to wind up this portion of the A Block.
	Donnie Deutsch.
	Was he an advertising executive?
	He was some sort of an executive, and he wanted to be a TV guy.
	I think he was an ad executive.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was like a creative director at BBDO or something like that.
	I could be wrong.
	Anyway, he's on the Morning Joe's.
	That's where he always appears.
	And he's now kicking off this one again.
	Again, it's just rinse and repeat.
	John, you went to Faber College with John Belushi.
	And it dawned on me, you can't analyze this anymore.
	And I did some homework, and there's nothing glib about this.
	I need about 40 seconds.
	How to determine if someone is a sociopath.
	A person, what a sociopath is, a condition that prevents people from adopting to ethical and behavioral standards as a community.
	Sociopaths are usually extremely charming and charismatic.
	Socopers oftentimes entail a certain position.
	kiss You're going to have to make up their mind.
	Is the guy charming and charismatic or a creep?
	Well, what he's...
	Yes.
	He can't be both.
	I agree.
	And when this clip is over, I've got a follow-up clip, just to let you know, in advance.
	Charming and charismatic.
	Social people oftentimes feel entitled to certain positions, people, and things.
	They believe their own beliefs and opinions are the absolute authority and disregard others.
	They're rarely shy and insecure or lost for words.
	They have trouble suppressing emotional responses like anger and patience or annoyance.
	They do bizarre, risky and outrageous things without assessing repercussions.
	They're professional liars.
	They fabricate stories and make outlandish, untruthful statements.
	And they get comfortable with their lying.
	They get bored easily and require constant stimulation.
	Sounds like me.
	Sociopaths are incapable of experiencing guilt or shame for their actions.
	That was a good one.
	They're manipulative.
	They may try to influence and dominate people to gain positions of leadership.
	They have a hard time dealing with criticism.
	And now we have to go to break.
	No, I mean, and you start, and I'm not being glib here, because we're trying to...
	Analyze this intelligently or rationally or the left brain, and there is none.
	And then you start to say, coming off of Clapper, coming off of Corker, what is wrong with this man?
	And it's interesting, so many of the traits of a sociopath this man is displaying.
	I'm adding it to the list.
	Sociopath.
	That's a very nice one.
	You could use that same exact...
	If you took that whole little spiel and ran it in 2009 when Obama got in, you could probably get away with the same exact complaint.
	Not on MSNBC, you couldn't.
	No, I mean, somewhere else.
	Not on MSNBC. Yeah.
	Because they were having chills because you won.
	I have a follow-up.
	So you had a follow-up, you said?
	Here's a follow-up.
	This is another thing you got to put on.
	You know, we go back to that list we made.
	You know, every one of these things is on there.
	This is Hillary's getting all kinds of promotion from her book.
	And I don't know why she's kind of reading from the book instead of just saying stuff in an interview, but here's Hillary, this is NBC promoting the Hillary book and also at the same time.
	Stop.
	I'll tell you why she's reading from the book and not just telling a story.
	Because she can't remember any story.
	Because of the plane where I can...
	Well, you could say that, or maybe there was no story.
	Maybe it had to be written so that she could read it, because that's the story.
	This is herstory.
	Wait, wait.
	The way they present this, they also show clips that are shot with different camera angles to kind of exaggerate this problem.
	This happens to be about something they didn't talk much about at the time, which was the second debate when Clinton and...
	Small debate stage, and Clinton and Trump are damn near bumping into each other most of the time.
	But the way she describes it, I thought it was very funny, but at the same time, this was dramatized, and NBC gets twofer.
	It's a twofer.
	Do they have music?
	Creepy music?
	I wish.
	Someday.
	This is a twofer.
	They get to plug her book and slam Trump at the same time.
	It's great.
	It's a beauty.
	Meantime, tonight as President Trump has continued to take aim at Hillary Clinton from time to time so long after the election, she's having her say about the man who she says made her skin crawl during an awkward debate moment.
	Now Clinton also is acknowledging her own mistakes and her devastating defeat.
	Here's NBC's Andrea Mitchell.
	New reporting by NBC News reveals Hillary Clinton's lead over Donald Trump was a lot less certain than previously thought, especially in the last two weeks.
	As we hear the first excerpts from her upcoming book about that tense standoff at their second debate.
	Donald Trump was looming behind me.
	It was incredibly uncomfortable.
	He was literally breathing down my neck.
	My skin crawled.
	They're face off only two days after that Access Hollywood video.
	Grab him by the ****.
	The Trump campaign trying to intimidate her.
	Steve Bannon inviting women accusers from Bill Clinton's past to sit in the front row as Trump circled her on stage.
	Now for the first time publicly, she's wondering should she have stood up to him.
	Do you turn, look him in the eye, and say loudly and clearly, back up.
	Shut up, you creep.
	Get away from me.
	It certainly would have been better TV. Maybe I have overlearned the lesson of staying calm, biting my tongue, digging my fingernails into a clenched fist.
	I can tell, yes.
	It is incredibly, incredibly uncomfortable.
	It very much encapsulated a lot of the discomfort in the race in that moment in time.
	Couldn't capture a cool not wanting to appear weak.
	She is now in a position where she can share doubts that she had, mistakes with things she made, things she might have done differently.
	A moment captured on SNL. A pre-existing condition.
	Number two.
	As NBC News Now reports, that was among the high points for Clinton in the final month.
	Nineteen days later, FBI Director James Comey reopened the email investigation.
	And in the final stretch, a more disciplined Trump going on offense while Clinton fell behind.
	Uh-huh.
	Let's stop here and go back and try to remember this.
	She was kicking his ass in these debates.
	Yep.
	And now they just said it was a high point.
	But if you listen to her, it was a low point because he was breathing down her neck.
	I mean, which is it?
	Can you get these stories so at least the narrative makes some sense with what you're telling us?
	Because there's a lot of discrepant information they throw at us or at the public.
	And it doesn't really work.
	Either she's kicking ass in these debates and it was a high point or this creep was creeping her out and breathing down her neck.
	One of the two.
	There was a bit on CNN, and now I'm sad I didn't clip it.
	It was someone who had been rehearsing with Hillary Clinton for the debates, and they had footage from the debate rehearsal where this guy specifically did what Trump did.
	He was walking around her, walking behind her, and it was all meant to prepare her for him doing that.
	And now she's saying that it was creepy and she was put on the wrong foot or something.
	Oh, that would have been a great clip.
	You're right.
	I just realized I heard it in the car and I completely forgot.
	But I'll find it.
	It was like, wow.
	I mean, if she rehearsed for it.
	This is all bull crap, of course.
	The other thing is that they showed, tried to dramatize as much as they could, a lot of it with a long lens, because you use a long lens, you lose anything over 200 millimeters.
	It brings the foreground and the background together.
	It conflates the two.
	So it looks like you're closer than you are.
	Now, the other thing was they showed one clip, they made a mistake showing one clip where she actually, I think this was a blunder in the edit room, She actually walked over toward him to put herself in a position where he was standing right next to her.
	Or right behind her.
	And she brought that on herself.
	I'm going to have to go back and look at that debate.
	Because I'm sure YouTube has it.
	I remember we talked about it and that indeed the depth of field was a little off.
	But it doesn't matter.
	That's what people saw and that's what they believed.
	So it does not matter.
	It just doesn't matter.
	Speaking of that.
	You know Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs?
	Yeah.
	So he had a Facebook rant against someone who said, you know, Nazis love you, Republicans love your show, you're alt-right, blah, blah.
	And so he writes a very thoughtful piece talking about just how ridiculous this is and that he hasn't really come out with any political stance.
	It's a really thoughtful piece about the cancer on both sides.
	And here's what's interesting.
	Tina shares that on the face bag.
	And she's talking to one of her daughters.
	And her daughter says, oh, mom, so now you're supporting Nazis?
	And this is exactly the problem, is that people don't read.
	She said, did you read it?
	Well, I started to.
	Okay.
	And that's a daughter to her mom.
	And I'm sure she doesn't mean it like that.
	She doesn't understand maybe what she's saying.
	But that's what's happening.
	Yeah, whatever.
	I believe that...
	Oh, that sounds right.
	Okay, but I don't have to read it.
	I don't have to do any investigation.
	But I got some drinking to do.
	This is one of your main points, and I'm going to...
	You bring this up.
	It happened to me just on Twitter.
	I wrote a column this week at PC Magazine saying that phones, because of the people walking into walls and bumping into each other and getting into accidents, because they're using these phones to text and to do all kinds of things they shouldn't be doing while driving.
	Or walking.
	You see them walking up and down the street.
	Or having sex.
	So I made this point that, you know, there's been a bunch of laws.
	You can't text and drive, but nobody's, you know, everybody's still doing it.
	There's nothing you can do about it.
	Made it very clear in the column.
	And my recommendation was that the laws stop applying to people and start applying to the phone.
	So the phone's in motion.
	It just doesn't work.
	And that's pretty much the whole summary of the entire column.
	Some guy tweets me, says...
	He sees the column being retweeted and he says, there's already laws to stop you from doing this.
	Well, he obviously didn't read the column at all because I mentioned that there's laws and the laws don't work.
	And that was the point of the column.
	Yeah.
	So all he read was the headline.
	Yeah, which you didn't write.
	And then jump to conclusions.
	Yeah.
	Because nobody wants to go through the trouble.
	However, you know, Jesus, all 700 words, you know, take a maybe...
	Three minutes to read.
	No.
	It's unbelievable.
	And that's a good example.
	And people should be shamed, it seems to me, for making these leaps of faith.
	I told Tina she should block her daughter.
	She should.
	She's a good kid.
	To me, that's very sad.
	I know she doesn't mean any malice, but it's sad when this happens.
	It's sad.
	This is university's I have one more for this block to round it out.
	Back to 25 for 45.
	Maxine Waters was honored at the BET Awards for the Black Girls Rock Award, I believe.
	Are you allowed to say girls?
	Are you supposed to say black females?
	Is she appropriating younger people's culture?
	No.
	By accepting an award for a girl.
	Oh, I think that's the cultural appropriation on all kinds of levels.
	She should rebuke the award and rebuke BET. No, no, no.
	As we predicted, she's got a vibe going.
	Maxine has a vibe with my Millennials it's that it won't quit sorry I should have put all that on Auntie Maxine.
	There you go.
	Auntie Maxine.
	For your dedication to truth and justice.
	For the way you keep it real all the time.
	For your gospel hit, I'm reclaiming my time.
	Please accept the Black Girls Rock Social Humanitarian Award.
	You rock!
	You rock!
	Black girls.
	Oh, by the way, I cut out most of the applause on this because it was just too long.
	Good evening, everyone.
	To Beverly Bond, the founder of Black Girls Rock, and Deborah Lee, the chairman and CEO of BET, I'm extremely grateful for the recognition that I'm receiving this evening.
	But I want you to know, if it was not for the love and respect shown to me by black women, those right-wing, ultra-conservative, alt-right haters...
	This is not a divisive speech at all.
	I mean, it's really trying to bring the country together.
	Auntie Maxine doing a great job there.
	And respect shown to me by black women, those right-wing, ultra-conservative, alt-right haters in this country.
	They would have me believe I'm too black, I'm too confrontational, I'm too tough, and I'm too disrespectful of them.
	But now, I know I'm simply a strong black woman.
	I am you and you are me.
	Now, that's a bumper sticker.
	I am you and you are me.
	This is the bumper sticker.
	Yeah!
	Auntie Maxine says...
	I am you and you are me.
	We have power, we have influence.
	We can do things that others have told us we can't do.
	I don't care how big you are.
	I don't care how high you think you are.
	If you come for me, I'm coming for you.
	And so, whether it's the President of the United States of America or any of his cabinet, we will say to them, we will resist you.
	We will not allow you to damage this country in the way that you're doing.
	We will not allow you to take us backwards.
	Not only will we resist you, we will impeach you, Mr.
	President!
	Woo!
	Yeah!
	And so, I know that you are as inspired as I am this evening.
	Yes.
	I want you to know that I said, and I'll said over and over again, reclaiming my time.
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	Because that is absolutely racist.
	Stay woke!
	Nice!
	Yes, Maxie!
	Take away from the crackpot.
	Nice!
	Those days are over.
	They called you out on Fox tonight.
	Maxie!
	Take away from the crackpot.
	Maxie!
	My millennials!
	Stay woke!
	Man.
	She's running.
	I hope so.
	Me too!
	I'll vote for her.
	Get her in.
	Keep her in the spotlight.
	Keep her on the show.
	But I love it.
	She's got her catchphrase, reclaiming my time.
	I like that my millennials stay woke better, but I'm okay with reclaiming my time.
	Reclaiming my time is good, but I am you and you are me.
	I am you, you are me.
	But no agenda shop, guys.
	It's a t-shirt, reclaiming my time.
	Get in on it.
	I don't care if it's...
	She is definitely running.
	There's no doubt about it.
	Because you can just imagine, she's just jacked up.
	Yeah.
	She's very jacked up.
	And she looked great, though.
	How old is she?
	She's in her late 70s.
	I think she's 100 and something.
	No.
	Not just being an ageist douche.
	I have a right to be an ageist douche.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	Donald loves Nazis.
	CNN say that he's KKK.
	And he shall sing hail with it.
	Wow.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Classic Slander, Dvorak.
	Thank you.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the names and all the nights out there.
	And in the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Thank you for being here.
	I also want to thank everybody over there.
	Let me see.
	It's Brendel Kidwell, who's made the...
	It's been around for a while.
	I reminded myself to promote it.
	GitmoList.org.
	Which is really a list of all of our sites and things that we talk about.
	And I mean, I go to this because I don't know what we have anymore.
	GitmoList.org.
	Then also, there is a Houston meetup being planned.
	You can find it at meetup.org.com thing, net.
	Link in the show notes.
	But I would like to move that to Austin.
	So if people are interested in doing that meetup, then why don't we move it to Austin?
	People from Houston come here and we'll have a good time.
	Also, in the morning, to Patrick Baus.
	He brought us the artwork for episode 957.
	The title of that was Upstaged!
	And it was just a great piece of Eclipse art.
	It was really, you know, with a woman with the big sunglasses screaming her head off.
	Did you notice any weirdness?
	I have a clip that applies to that artwork coming later in the show.
	Did you notice any weirdness?
	I mean, just people talking about weird things happening after the eclipse?
	Well, the one clip I have was definitely weird.
	It's on the Weather Channel.
	Not the one on the net, but the real one on the television.
	Because the one on the net was a disaster, I thought.
	Oh, yeah, it was.
	So was NASA's feed.
	NASA was also shit.
	There were better ones.
	But this woman, and I don't know whether I should play it in reverse order or front to back, but I'll play it in front to back.
	In other words, the right order.
	This is the prelude.
	This is the Weather Girl.
	And I always thought she was a little...
	She's a little buoyant, and she's also one of these, woo, type chicks.
	Okay.
	And so let's play her at the beginning.
	Okay, we are now a minute and 30, one minute, 36 seconds away from Totality here.
	Are you guys excited?
	Yeah!
	Woo!
	We're getting excited here for Totality.
	I mean, the countdown is on.
	Again, we are going to, I'm sure, hear cheers from the crowd, but we're also going to tap into several different cameras.
	Okay, so now the eclipse takes place and they cut back to her and let her go.
	And this is like, wow!
	Oh, it's emotional!
	I can't explain why, but it is.
	We had tears, we had screams, we had fireworks during totality, but...
	It just took my breath away, the whole thing.
	It's really cool that you can see the corona and you see the sun kind of spewing out from behind the moon.
	It literally took our breath away for a while, so I'm so excited for everyone to experience this.
	And of course, you have to wear the glasses again now that we're out of fatality, but it got really dark down here.
	Just look how spectacular that is on the TV screen.
	The light is starting to come back to us now.
	Wow, that is something that's really special.
	And we're all really fortunate to be alive and where we are today so that we can see.
	But that was really cool.
	I'm sorry, I don't know why I'm so...
	Jim, I'm surprised by my reaction.
	You know, I did scream and got excited.
	I don't know why I'm so overwhelmed by it, but it's very special.
	Wow.
	Well, I'm going to give you a borderline for that.
	That's a pretty good point.
	You know, I attribute this to lack of religion.
	Or some other belief system.
	Yeah, because when this happens, people are looking at this like some outer world godly event.
	And I saw a lot of this.
	NASA's feed, I believe it was NASA's feed, I didn't, it wasn't interesting to listen to per se, not as interesting as this.
	The guy went the other way, he's like, I just can't, I have to go quiet.
	And he was just continuously quiet.
	And, I mean, it's not, okay, it's great, it's a big deal, whatever.
	You know, no, it's not really.
	But it must be some lack of belief in something bigger.
	Well, this woman really lost it.
	I mean, you had to see her.
	She's crying.
	She's crying.
	She's crying like a baby.
	Do you know her name?
	Maybe she was raised religiously and walked away from religion.
	I don't know her name.
	I never got her name, but she's one of the mainstays in the Weather Channel.
	Would you agree, though, this is like some kind of loss in belief?
	I'm not going to argue the point with you because it's possible that you're right.
	Have you ever noticed that whenever you agree with me, you always say you're not going to argue with me?
	Well, there's nothing to argue about.
	It's nicer to say, yes, I agree, Adam.
	Great.
	Well, I have to say I'm not going to argue with you because I think the The listeners, the producers like it when I'm arguing.
	Oh, okay.
	I've heard this.
	I'm giving them a heads up.
	There's no argument coming.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	On to the next topic.
	Wow.
	I am really high.
	Exactly.
	That's how I watch the Eclipse.
	Although all the nerds...
	I'm sorry.
	We got screwed here because we had overcast and the Eclipse was dark in the area.
	And I think there was kind of a funk...
	that took place across the country.
	And I think that woman kind of expressed it a little bit.
	Maybe it ended this lack of religion may have a, that's an interesting element that we should just explore in the show in general. - Yeah. - And it was a very interesting situation.
	Everyone talked about it to excess.
	I watched the Weather Channel and a couple other things online.
	I probably saw the eclipse at least ten times in different parts of the country.
	So you got to watch it over and over and over again.
	There were some parts of the country that had a better eclipse than other parts.
	And I believe that seeing it on the, you know, you're looking through a You know, a welder's goggles or you're looking at it through a pinhole camera, however you see it, you're probably seeing a better version of it on TV. Oh, for sure.
	For sure.
	It's like watching a football game.
	You're probably about not going to the game.
	You know, our building overlooks Silicon Labs here in Austin, downtown Austin.
	They have the Salt-N-Pepa, two buildings.
	Then all of the...
	These are chipped guys, chipped designers.
	They were all up on the roof with chairs, and they had all kinds of interesting filters and gizmos.
	I had my binoculars on it.
	Screw looking at the sun.
	I was looking at these guys.
	They were interesting.
	They had all kinds of sextants, and I don't know what they were sporting.
	Took some pictures of it.
	I'll send it to you.
	Well, apparently in seven years, you guys are going to be right in the middle of the real one.
	April 18th, 2024.
	The whole shebang.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	But I'm going to have to live here until...
	We'll have to do the show until then.
	Hey, let's thank some people, John.
	Yes, we have a few people to thank.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	I did want to say, sorry, Patrick Bous, thank him for the artwork.
	We appreciate what the artists do.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Upload your artwork there.
	Joe 958.
	And this is one, a few people.
	We have a good balance group today.
	Neville Barham.
	Barham.
	North Lampton.
	New South Wales, Australia, $400.
	And he...
	Didn't put a note in here, but he did send an email, which I have.
	Dear John and Adam, I recently donated $400 USD. $524.35 in Australian dollars, which is a lot.
	Yes.
	In both our countries, all politicians seem to have lost the plot and seem to forget why and who elected them.
	For consistency, our lefty media and victimhood activists also blame Trump.
	Of course.
	For all the ills in the world.
	Keep up the good work.
	Just a Putin jingle, don't worry, be happy.
	Thank you, Sir Neville James of Bray Park Hill.
	And does he need some karma to go with that?
	I think so.
	I think we should roll that out for him.
	No problem.
	Don't worry.
	Be happy.
	Don't worry.
	Be hectic.
	You've got karma.
	And by random events, Joe Travis comes in from the United States for $400.
	And he also sent a note in through email.
	John, I'm sending a $400 donation.
	I'd like my son to be the executive producer.
	He's 18 and headed to college next week.
	I want to start his CV outright.
	So please credit Harrison Travis as a producer.
	I'll write that down.
	He'll get the credit.
	I hit him in the mouth about a month ago, and he loves the show.
	He's going back through episodes, and it's given him a lot to talk about.
	Good, good, good.
	Good luck.
	His summer reading assignment is Our Declaration by Danielle Allen.
	The podcast has given him a lot of rebuttals to the book.
	So he'll be starting out right.
	Hopefully he's one millennial that will stay woke.
	I need a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And he says he's been a couple of years since he was a producer.
	Also, a Don't Kill Me Hillary for his son.
	And he also signs off as Dr.
	Joe.
	Yeah, we couldn't really, when we were doing some pre-show stuff, we didn't know.
	We couldn't remember.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	But we didn't have the Don't Kill Me.
	We couldn't remember it.
	And Mike sent it, so I guess this is one of our jingles, and I'll add some karma onto that.
	Don't kill me, Hillary Clinton!
	You've got karma.
	It's not quite as good as the don't eat me.
	No, but it's not very earnest.
	Yes!
	Reality.
	Okay, back to the spreadsheet.
	Onward to Oystenberg.
	Oystenberg in Rotterdam.
	Oystenberg in Rotterdam.
	$333.
	No agenda karma works.
	Please give me some stable long-term relationship karma.
	As always, thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Roger Boots comes in from Mechanicsville, Iowa, 33333, and still no note noted here.
	Thank you very much, Sir Roger.
	James O'Brien drops down to associate executive producer at $246.80.
	And he says, if I can click on this box, 2468, who do we appreciate?
	No agenda, no agenda, yay.
	Yay!
	Stay strong, John and Adam.
	See email.
	Oh.
	That's the one that was sent to you, wasn't it?
	No, Dennis Cruz.
	No, that's the one.
	This is the next one.
	He doesn't say that.
	See email is the next one.
	Sorry.
	They run into each other when you open up those boxes.
	In Libra.
	Anyway, we'll give them a karma.
	Of course we'll give them a karma.
	Oops, sorry.
	You've got karma.
	Now Dennis Cruz in Portland, up there in Portland.
	Yeah, the Den Man.
	The Den Man.
	The Den Man at 201.99, hanging in there in Portland, Oregon.
	And you have his note.
	I do.
	Okay, I made my quarterly donation to the best podcast in the universe, known or otherwise.
	As a founding associate producer, I've enjoyed the show and the break-apart analysis of the media and the events they convey and usually don't.
	Media dissection and information equals...
	Oh, no.
	Media dissection and information equals no agenda, except he has two equal signs next to each other.
	Doesn't that mean it's not equal?
	Maybe it means equals equals.
	Yeah, equals equals.
	Doesn't that mean that it doesn't equal?
	I think the equal sign with the dash through it, or the line through it.
	Anyway, thank you.
	If you want to mention hotcoffee.org and the abundant cannabis information available on that website, please feel free.
	Hotcoffee.org?
	Yeah.
	He posts on No Agenda Social all the time.
	He knows his stuff.
	This is the guy.
	This is our weed guy.
	Okay.
	We'll let him know what to invest in for all of us.
	Yeah.
	Hotcoffee.org.
	Could use some cancer karma.
	A 0.7 inch slice of flesh from my back was removed today.
	So, yes.
	And that Donald loves Nazis is hilarious.
	We just played that one.
	But we'll definitely give you an F cancer.
	F cancer!
	Thank you very much.
	You've got karma.
	Okay, onward with Dennis.
	That's Dennis.
	Russell T. Harper in Bristol, Tennessee.
	$233.
	He sent a card in It's actually a nice card.
	It doesn't say much in it, but he says it's Bristol, Tennessee, a place to live card.
	Good place to live.
	So anyone looking to move to Tennessee, it looks like a nice town.
	Dear John and Adam, please accept this donation for your excellent show.
	Thank you.
	Cordially, Russell Harper.
	Thank you so much.
	Sir Henry, Baron of Outpost West in Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
	And he's...
	He just says, keep up what you guys are doing.
	We need an...
	Whoa.
	Stop the show.
	Whoa.
	You okay?
	What?
	I lost you for a second there.
	You were reading the note and you just completely left.
	Oh.
	You're back.
	Sorry.
	You're back.
	Did you not get the end of it?
	No.
	Just read the note.
	Oh.
	I just did.
	Keep up what you guys are doing.
	We need it and appreciate it.
	Henry Barron of Outpost West.
	Perfect.
	Here's a karma for him.
	You've got karma.
	And last is Ron Pepper, $200, San Francisco.
	He's the guy, this guy is the guy who is one of the early pioneers of HDR photography.
	Really?
	He's the guy who does photomatics.
	Oh.
	If you do HDR, you want to do HDR, you want to play around with HDR, you need a copy of this program.
	But he does other stuff, too, and he's a photographer.
	He's the one who did the 360 stuff.
	And he's woke.
	Apparently.
	I would like to call out for a douchebag check, which is a little different than a douchebag call-out.
	I'll explain because there's a point for anyone who likes or dislikes the donation segment.
	This douchebag check is for the hosts of the Seahawkers podcast.
	Not only have they been listening since I hit them in the mouth, but they have also adopted the value-for-value model demonstrated by No Agenda.
	This is not an amateur show, and they could easily get advertisers.
	Therefore, they should be commended for helping to break the cycle of advertiser-supported shows and for finding their own way of adding perks for those who donate.
	This is the future model for good content.
	When I asked if they have donated to No Agenda, the answer was too vague for my comfort.
	This is why it's a check for possible douchebaggery.
	Finally, if they don't donate soon, I shall have to divert some of my donations from the Seahawkers to the No Agenda show.
	Boom shakalaka.
	Love you all.
	Wow.
	So he, oh he also has one other thing here.
	Also give a birthday shout out.
	Let me slide this down for a second.
	Also give a birthday shout out to my sister Nona.
	I think she's on the list.
	Yes.
	Who listens to the show as long as Taylor Swift's ass doesn't get too much air time.
	Please play me out with a schwozelnuff karma and a Pepper by Fletcher.
	Birthday karma if possible.
	Don't spike check.
	No, don't spike check.
	69! 69, dudes!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Thank you.
	Nice combo.
	Wow.
	I like the douchebag check idea.
	It's an interesting concept.
	It's a good concept.
	We shall keep it in.
	Yeah.
	Is that right?
	Well, you're on your list.
	Okay.
	No, that's it.
	That is our complete associate executive producer and executive producers for show 958.
	I want to thank them for helping get this show off the ground.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Profusely, we thank you.
	These are real credits.
	Please take them and cherish them, as you should, whenever you participate in any kind of media product.
	If you're an executive producer or associate executive producer, it means something.
	You know, I saw...
	I watched the...
	We watched the first two episodes of The Defiant Ones on HBO last night.
	You heard about this?
	This is Jimmy Iovine and Dr.
	Dre?
	No.
	Well, you know who was the executive producer?
	Who?
	Gene Kirkwood.
	Remember him?
	He was the guy that worked for Mevio when they moved to LA. So this is kind of my point.
	It's like, oh, executive producers.
	There's something that is propagated from a guy I haven't seen in six years or longer than that.
	These titles are interesting.
	And now I would consider hiring him for my biopic.
	I'm sorry.
	Never mind.
	The point is, we appreciate that you are supporting the program.
	We'll be thanking more donors later on, $50 and above.
	And we have another show coming up on Sunday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. With the weekend just around the corner, you know it's your obligation to go out and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Don't kill me, Hillary Clinton!
	Shut up, slave.
	You wrote an interesting newsletter.
	You always write an interesting newsletter, but there was something of interest to me, and that was regarding the Afghanistan strategy.
	Yes.
	And I can tell you, it may have been reported by now, but there are thousands of paratroopers on their way to Afghanistan as we speak.
	I have it on high authority.
	So paratroopers usually means people are going to be boots on the ground.
	And I don't know why they could just drive, but okay.
	I know they could just drive there.
	I don't understand why they have to parachute them in.
	It'll make for a good promotional video.
	It's going to look cool.
	It's going to look very, very cool.
	And your takeaway, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but your takeaway is that Trump has been, What's the word?
	Red Inn.
	Red Inn.
	I'm looking for another word.
	Co-opted into the poppies, into the protection of the poppy fields, which is really, as far as we can tell, the main reason for being there at all.
	And if you see all the bases, they're all near the poppy fields.
	And I was reading an article the other day.
	Big crop this year, too.
	Yeah, it's like 10,000 cubic something or other.
	The amount that comes from Afghanistan, so much more that has even grown in Mexico, and taking into account how military transport were used to bring cocaine into it.
	Was it cocaine or heroin?
	The Denzel Washington movie.
	It was heroin.
	Opium, yeah, I'm sorry.
	Sorry, opium.
	You know, in caskets of dead soldiers.
	And this is, you can look this up, this really happened.
	And Denzel Washington made a movie about it, was in a movie about it.
	Great movie.
	And so your feeling was he was read in.
	And I actually had a hopeful thought.
	I know.
	Stupid.
	Why bother?
	Here was my hopeful thought.
	Because of the opioid crisis in the United States, which now by far surpasses vehicular deaths, bypasses gun deaths, including suicides, I don't think it quite...
	Right, it just took way past 33,000, which is the vehicular death number.
	So it's the number one cause of death, outside of, I think, people dying in the hospital itself.
	Ooh, I almost said in hospital.
	In the hospital itself, which is also a very big problem with all the superbugs and MRSA and all that stuff.
	But, of course, it would just be my hopeful thinking that the president who has...
	This was the day of the Antifa kerfuffle...
	Where he screwed up his speech, he was actually talking the first time around about the opioid crisis, and then it just evolved into Charlottesville, etc.
	And I was hoping that maybe, maybe the way to show that we won, because this is what I would just say, you know, maybe you can't do this on a geopolitical scale, but if you want to finish the war and show that we won, which was unclear from his statement or from anything on whitehouse.gov or any policy statement, Maybe go in, burn down the poppy fields, and claim two victories at one time.
	We are stopping the opioid crisis, stopping it here at the root, at the base of the problem.
	We're stopping it right now.
	And we won.
	And then get out.
	Well, I think you could do that.
	It'd be a nice show.
	But I'm beginning to think that the real opioid crisis is now pretty much attached to China.
	I did have a clip.
	I didn't use it, which is the amount of the stuff's now being the fentanyl.
	The fentanyl from China, yeah.
	Which is the artificial synthetic opioid.
	So there's two fronts.
	We could do it there and we could do it in China.
	We could call that another front.
	They did a big crackdown of all the people having it mailed directly.
	Because I don't know if you do enough business with Amazon.
	But if you do, especially when you're getting crazy little things like, for example, a converter.
	So you can use a Nikon lens on an Olympus.
	I tried to order some fentanyl through Amazon, but it came up as an add-on item, so I had to order something else.
	You have to wait.
	You have to wait until I have enough.
	Once you get your humidifier, then they'll ship that.
	I hate that.
	So you get these things, you order some of this stuff, and it always has a weird shipping time, but it's just broad.
	It's like anywhere from October to March, you're going to get this item.
	And it shows up eventually right in your mailbox, and it's shipped directly from China.
	And it's just a little, you know, something you bought.
	And there's a number of these products that are now just being shipped directly from China because they got some sort of special deal.
	I used to, just as an example, I used to bring in, there's a couple art dealers in China and there's one in Vietnam, just as a comparison.
	If you say you buy some 10 or 11 pieces from China, these are reproductions or copies or original.
	And they have a deal with the Federal Express.
	It's just like you get this stuff shipped directly from China air on FedEx.
	And the charge is like $15.
	It seems ridiculously low.
	But they're trying to get a foothold, I believe, because the same art bought from Vietnam.
	It weighs the same, everything the same.
	It's like $85 to have it shipped, and it's not FedEx.
	It's like TNT or one of these other guys.
	TNT. Because they don't have these deals with TNT. Yeah, I want my package with an outfit called TNT. It makes me feel very safe about my package.
	It will.
	Anyway, so, and this stuff's never checked.
	I mean, the last time I had some stuff checked, I bought some shirts directly from a Taiwan store.
	I think it was Taiwan or it was Korean.
	Maybe it was Korean.
	A Korean shirt maker that I've done business with before.
	I'm sounding like a fop.
	You like having your shirts made.
	You used to have them made with a pocket that would fit a floppy.
	I have all those stories.
	They charged me a customs fee for the But this other stuff you're getting from Amazon and every place else, they're just coming right in straight.
	And so they discovered that people were ordering fentanyl from China, and they went to the post office with some dogs, and every other package coming in from China was loaded with this stuff.
	But they can't open it up, correct?
	They were opening it up.
	Really?
	Then it wasn't the post office?
	No, it was coming in some...
	Well, you said the post office.
	I think it was the post office, but it was coming from China Post, and once it was discovered to be contraband by a dog, I think you can open it up.
	Oh, okay.
	Anyway, at least it looked like they were opening up.
	They were carving them open.
	Maybe it's...
	And it's a tonnage, a ton of fentanyl.
	Maybe it's DHL, which stands for Deliver Heroin Lately.
	Chatroom didn't drop that joke.
	Chatroom, yes.
	I can always spot a chatroom gag.
	Maybe I have the clip.
	Let's see what I have.
	Do I have a clip on this?
	China fentanyl?
	Did you have it previously?
	No, I don't see it.
	No, no, this is a new clip.
	We can keep it.
	I dropped the poll.
	That's okay.
	Well, so that would be my idea.
	And if I were a policy advisor, I think it's a pretty good idea.
	And then I really like the, hey, you know, we got the organic stuff.
	We know you want the organic.
	You can throw a Jeff Bezos.
	I'm not going to let Jeff Bezos have any organic heroin at Whole Foods.
	You can throw that in.
	Could be kind of funny.
	And then you could say, and we're stopping the Chinas from doing this.
	I see no downside other than the billions, hundreds of billions of dollars that will, you know, people will get screwed and a lot of people will be angry at them.
	Yeah, this is mostly the CIA. This is part of their black budget.
	This is their money.
	Correct.
	Yeah, it's their money.
	Now, I did pick up something on C-SPAN again.
	I spent a lot of time watching C-SPAN. Got back into the habit of listening to it during the day.
	Good.
	Yeah, there is some dynamite stuff.
	This is something you will never ever see on cable other than on C-SPAN because it is about the pharmaceutical companies.
	And as we know, certainly cable news, but a lot of the advertisements running in big shows, the big shows on the networks, the news, certainly, a lot of it is pharmaceutical advertising.
	Most of it.
	Most of it is pharmaceutical advertising, and there's no way you could start bringing up stories, certainly not in the manner this man discusses it.
	His name is San Quinones.
	He is author of the book, The Opioid Epidemic.
	Dreamland, the True Tale of America's Opioid Epidemic.
	And I have just two clips.
	Fascinating.
	I suggest you watch.
	Actually, C-SPAN did a whole special, a two-hour special about the opioid epidemic.
	Hard to say.
	And needless to say, if this guy ever does get on a mainstream news program...
	And he talks like this, then he needs to avoid the list.
	He'll never get on again.
	Well, no, he needs to avoid small aviation, hot tubs, canoeing in waters near D.C., all this kind of stuff.
	Don't have a gun in your left hand.
	It could be very, very bad for your health.
	The guys who first figured out...
	The heroin traffickers who first figured out that this very aggressive push to promote pain pill prescribing among doctors and doctors buying into that idea would eventually lead to a vast new heroin market.
	And the guys that I write about in my book were the ones who figured that out and saw that first emerging in Columbus, Ohio and the areas around there, various cities around there, Cincinnati, Wheeling, West Virginia, places like that.
	These guys had developed a system by then.
	They developed in the West Coast, where all the markets that they broke into eventually had a static number of addicts.
	And they were all from the same town.
	There was one town in particular, I think played a very important role in this.
	The name of the town is Jalisco.
	It's in the state of Nayarit.
	That's in Mexico.
	And these guys figured out a retail model of selling heroin by the tenth of a gram, very much similar to pizza delivery.
	So you'd call, you'd order, they'd send a driver to deliver hits of heroin to you near where you live.
	These guys, with their model, initially developed it on the western side of the United States, where the number of addicts were static.
	They become master marketers.
	They couldn't kill each other because we're all from the same town.
	They know where each other's mothers live.
	When they compete, they couldn't really eliminate the competition the way people in the underworld traditionally have dating back to Al Capone, really.
	So they had to become master marketers, and that's what they became.
	It was a way of discounting, giving dope away free in front of methadone clinics, giving dope away free to guys who just got out of jail.
	you bring me five new customers, they give you 50 free balloons of heroin, that kind of thing.
	Their key moment comes when- - Multi-level marketing. - Exactly, it's an MLM there, yeah, it's beautiful. - And that kind of thing.
	Their key moment comes when they jump the Mississippi River for the first time, One guy in particular I talked to in the book, jump the Mississippi River, land in Columbus, just as a massive new push is underway by pharmaceutical companies and pain specialists, particularly in the area of southern Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, to promote narcotic painkillers.
	Bicodin, Percocet, OxyContin as the new solution to pain.
	This creates a whole new number, a huge new number of addicts and they are there to then service those addicts once they can no longer afford those pills and are looking for something cheaper.
	So as we were talking about conflating, this author is now conflating the Mexican gang who pioneered this type of sales in the United States in Columbus, Ohio, where this apparently, according to him and his book, is ground zero for the opioid epidemic.
	And this is where the dangerous part for him comes in.
	When Purdue, the pharmaceutical giant, started pushing their opioids in the exact same manner that the Mexican gang did it.
	And you just mentioned it.
	What should viewers know about Purdue Pharma?
	Purdue Pharma was crucial in forming what we have today.
	Primarily, I would say OxyContin was crucial.
	The drug that Purdue Pharma makes was crucial in all this.
	First of all, for two reasons.
	One was that Purdue Pharma used a very aggressive form of marketing to doctors.
	Giveaways very similar to the marketing techniques that the Jalisco boys from Nayarit used to sell their heroin, Purdue Pharma used to convince doctors that these pills were no longer addictive, particularly that OxyContin was no longer addictive, and they'd be fine prescribing it to their patients.
	And they gave away stuff.
	They don't do this anymore, but for seven years of the drug's life, they gave away stuff, trips.
	They gave away a little CD called Swing in the Right Direction with OxyContin, where we've got some swing band tunes.
	It was a very aggressive...
	Constant kind of marketing to doctors to convince them that this was fine to do.
	And then also, OxyContin was a crucial part of this because OxyContin did not contain any abuse deterrent for the first 14 years of his life.
	So it took addicts, people would get addicted, and it would take their tolerance up to very, very high levels.
	And then they would be looking for a cheap, potent alternative.
	And heroin proved to be that.
	Particularly the heroin initially from Jalisco Nayarit proved to be the crucial alternative and all that.
	And this just goes on and on.
	It's very confirming, obviously, for our bias.
	And I don't know if he goes into Afghanistan in his book and the poppies there.
	But there you go.
	I didn't know some of this.
	I didn't know that OxyContin was sold as non-addictive.
	No, but I think he said it differently.
	He said that for the first 14 years it had no addiction.
	No, no.
	Before he said that, which I heard too, before that he says that initially...
	Yes, you're right.
	He does say that.
	Initially non-addictive, yeah.
	But I don't believe that for a second.
	Well, we know it's addictive, but you don't believe that the...
	Oh, no, I believe that.
	No, that part I believe.
	Of course, I don't believe that it's not addictive.
	No, it's obviously addictive.
	I mean, we already know that by now.
	It's the gateway drug.
	So that was FDA then, I guess, who said it was okay and non-addictive?
	I guess they would have to confirm that pitch because you can't just go out and say anything you want.
	Well, let's see if Trump can take on the insurance industry first before he tries the pharmaceutical.
	They will kill anybody in their way.
	There's no doubt about that.
	Yes, they're criminals.
	I do have a Trump clip then that talks about somebody...
	There's a couple new books on Reagan coming out, and so they had on C-SPAN again, they had this discussion, and I thought this was an interesting observation.
	This guy's no Trump fan, but most of these guys are all Reagan fans, and they're arguing details about the way the Reagan operated.
	And this guy is not a big fan of Trump, but he's a fan of Reagan.
	And this is actually kind of an interesting commentary.
	This is Trump versus Reagan, the old folks' home story.
	Maybe if we had been allowed to do some of these interesting policy innovations that apply Reaganite principles to contemporary problems, we would have won over Reagan.
	Some of those people in the Republican Party and not let them grow so frustrated that they drew in with this vast populist enterprise that has no serious connection to anything like mainstream intellectual conservatism.
	And I'll just close with this last point.
	One of the things that made Reagan an incredibly successful president was that the staff knew what the old man believed.
	And that is incredibly empowering to the bureaucracy, to the senior, the political appointees.
	If you know where the old man's coming down on something, you don't have to go ask for permission to do it.
	You basically get to carry the ball forward.
	That, more than anything else, is one of the biggest problems with the Trump presidency so far.
	On any given day, he's like a patient from an old age home wandering off into the snow.
	You never know where he's going to go.
	No one feels empowered to actually follow through on a policy about anything.
	And it makes a lot of serious people unwilling to To enter the administration because they don't feel like he'll get their backs when they need it.
	And that is an enormous problem, and it is a sign that Ronald Reagan was a much smarter administrator and politician who managed to keep the tribes together in a way that Donald Trump simply has no intuitive grasp for.
	And I think that is one of the reasons why historians will not look back and see Donald Trump as much of a comparative figure to Ronald Reagan.
	Thank you.
	That is just a beautiful picture he painted for me.
	It was pretty funny.
	I have my eyes closed.
	I'm seeing Trump in his bathrobe, you know, with the suspenders on his socks, wandering through the snow.
	Now, I think he probably got that right because I get this.
	I've always had this sense.
	It's always bothered me about Trump, which is that Jeff Sessions' little back and forth, I think, was part of this where he just starts slamming Sessions for no apparent reason because he's not doing...
	Whatever Trump wanted at the moment.
	Is that you never get the sense that Trump is like the kind of leader that'll take one for the team.
	Or cover for anybody.
	He's more of the type that...
	You work for these guys.
	Different managers have different styles.
	This guy has the style of letting chaos rule, I believe.
	And I've seen managers that do this and get away with it.
	Who was it that I worked for that was like that?
	I don't know.
	What do you think?
	I don't know.
	There's different people that have this kind of...
	They just don't have any control over the operation.
	Right.
	And it just kind of goes haywire.
	And there's no boss that will take...
	There's no guy that's like, I can count on this...
	I can count on my boss to cover for me, to back me up.
	Oh.
	And there's no sense of anybody backing anybody up in this particular administration.
	I don't see that changing.
	And I think that's...
	Nobody bitches about that.
	Right.
	I mean, it's something to bitch about, it seems to me, if you really don't like the administration.
	But it's not impeachable, I guess.
	So maybe, you know, what's the point of bitching about it?
	And how does that relate to Afghanistan and the poppies?
	I had a connection there.
	You have an Afghan-Trump clip.
	Well, let's play it.
	Afghans will secure and build...
	Okay, stop, stop.
	I have to set this up.
	This is the summary the way I see it.
	And by the way, I think the left dropped the ball.
	I'm going to explain how they dropped the ball after this clip plays.
	This is Trump going on, you know, reading from the prompter.
	He sucks at prompter reading to such an extreme that he should be practicing it more.
	You know, he says stuff like, well, I remember that.
	And that's the way the world works.
	And War II ended.
	I mean, he's just...
	He's not good.
	He really stinks, but he's giving his little...
	But they like it.
	Oh, he's okay.
	He's presidential.
	No, he's not.
	So he reached for the prompter, and I'm going to tell you the bit that the left has dropped the ball on if they want to just condemn Trump for everything he does.
	They should have condemned him for something that you'll hear.
	But just summarize what's going to happen, paratroops or not.
	Afghans will secure and build their own nation and define their own future.
	We want them to succeed.
	But we will no longer use American military might to construct democracies in faraway lands or try to rebuild other countries in our own image.
	Those days are now over.
	Instead, we will work with allies and partners to protect our shared interests.
	We are not asking others to change their way of life, but to pursue common goals that allow our children to live better and safer lives.
	This principled realism will guide our decisions moving forward.
	Military power alone will not bring peace to Afghanistan or stop the terrorist threat arising in that country.
	But strategically applied force aims to create the conditions for a political process To achieve a lasting peace, America will work with the Afghan government as long as we see determination and progress.
	However, our commitment is not unlimited and our support is not a blank check.
	He talked about a political process.
	Here's where the left drops the ball if you really deconstruct what he just said.
	Because he's not going to change their culture.
	Trump's encouraging pedophilia in Afghanistan.
	He's given the green light to pedophilia with boys.
	In the morning.
	In the morning for you there.
	I was wondering where you were going.
	Our show discusses this.
	No.
	This issue.
	But, I mean, it doesn't get discussed a lot in the mainstream media, but this is a problem that you would, from a liberal perspective, you would want to comment on this, and I think they dropped the ball on this, because you can give Trump crap, but then again, you can't.
	I mean, it's just, they're kind of painted into a corner, I guess.
	You know, I read...
	The transcript, and I'm scrambling here to see if I can find it.
	I can't.
	But I recall in the transcript, I thought it was going to be in this piece you played, that he said, as long as we get to be part of the rebuilding process.
	There was something about it.
	Did you catch that at all?
	Could somebody in the chat room please find me?
	There was something minor about that.
	I think it followed the clip I had.
	I thought my clip kind of ended with, you know, blank check.
	I thought it was a good ending.
	And the rest of it was just blah, blah, blah.
	Who cares?
	It was on and on.
	Well, there's two things.
	One, political process, which means, well, regime change is what he's talking about.
	Political process.
	But he keeps talking about the Taliban.
	I mean, he's talking about the Taliban being part of the situation.
	This is not going to work.
	This is nonsense.
	I need, I really need, someone's going to find that for me.
	By the way, it being show day, there's an active shooter, apparently, in Charlottesville, but I'm reading now, the mayor says it's not terrorism, it is just a disgruntled employee, described as a, quote, an older black man.
	Show day.
	Yeah, it's nothing.
	It's nothing.
	Who cares?
	It's nothing.
	Well, yeah, they dropped the ball.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	But no one's listening.
	No one pays attention.
	Now, we're listening and we're paying attention.
	On this show, I told you several episodes ago that there is a problem with Haitian refugees leaving the country going to Scandinavia.
	And the reason for this, I want to explain the reason for this move, is after the Haiti earthquake, Haitians were given a temporary asylum in the United States.
	That was then extended under President Barack Obama.
	And that extension is coming up for expiration.
	I don't know if there's any talk of renewal, but it's coming up for expiration.
	And the Haitians are saying, well, this is probably time to go figure out another place to live.
	And that's what it is.
	And we said, yeah, no problem.
	Come in temporarily.
	You'll have to go back.
	That's just what we said.
	But CNN misrepresented this to such a degree that I had to play this report.
	I cut it down several minutes.
	Yes, there is some mention of some Haitian people, but they have people who have been in the country for 17 years, people from Yemen, Muslims.
	It's all Trump's fault because he's scaring the immigrants.
	And you listen carefully and you tell me if this is not misrepresenting the situation.
	But Trump is scaring the immigrants to move to Canada.
	This border between the United States and Canada is little more than a dirt path across a narrow ditch.
	In the past two months, it has become a highway, with waves of immigrants fleeing the US. Maybe America has a problem for Syrian people or for Muslim people.
	I don't know.
	Have you heard that?
	People have said that there's a problem for Syrians and for Muslims here in America?
	Yeah.
	Uncertainty about what the Trump administration will do and fear in the current climate is driving this exodus.
	Particularly now among Haitians who believe the protected status they've had since the devastating 2010 earthquake will be cancelled.
	Melissa Paul was born in Florida and is a U.S. citizen.
	Her mother decided that after 15 years...
	Cancel is not the same as expired.
	No, of course it isn't.
	And that was it.
	That was the only mention of it, and then they talked to anyone but Haitians.
	Oh, brother.
	2010 earthquake will be canceled.
	Melissa Paul was born in Florida.
	That's a good catch, by the way.
	I didn't even catch the canceled bit.
	Good one.
	Among Haitians who believe the protected status they've had since the devastating 2010 earthquake will be canceled.
	Even saying protective status is wrong.
	Asylum.
	Status as an asylum seeker.
	Protective status?
	Melissa Paul was born in Florida and is a U.S. citizen.
	Her mother decided that after 15 years, it was time to go.
	I know us for the best.
	The Canadian police warn them.
	Ma'am, if you do cross the line, we'll arrest you, like all of the people here.
	That's the goal.
	Get arrested and request asylum.
	Canada says the number of asylum seekers crossing from the U.S. into Quebec is unprecedented.
	3,000 in July, almost 4,000 in just the first half of August.
	Around 250 people every day.
	They're coming so fast, the army has set up tents at the border as they're processed.
	Most are then taken to Montreal, whose temporary housing is overflowing.
	So many beds needed that even the city's Olympic Stadium is a shelter.
	Francine Dupuis helps asylum seekers settle.
	It's not going to be an open door.
	That's definitely not.
	And it's sad because we do think that many of them believe that they are here to stay, which is not necessarily true.
	Did you ever think that you would see people so desperate to get out of the United States?
	Well, the atmosphere has certainly changed recently, because now people are sort of, they don't know what is going to happen, and that creates anxiety.
	Anxiety that Nadal al-Yamani felt living legally in Alabama.
	He's from Yemen, one of the countries on President Trump's travel ban.
	You had a life in the U.S. You were studying, you had a job, and yet you decided to completely uproot and come to Canada and start from zero.
	Because I don't have a future there.
	Why not?
	It's not guaranteed there.
	I love this.
	My future's not guaranteed anymore.
	You're an illegal...
	How did you feel crossing that border into Canada, leaving behind that life that you'd built for more than three years?
	So bad.
	I swear, like, it was the worst one hour for me.
	I really, like, I loved USA, like, USA. And I still love USA. People, as a people, as a community, as everything.
	More and more every day, deciding that this nation of immigrants is no longer a welcome home for immigrants.
	Fleeing with the hope that their next stop will be.
	So I found that to be very disingenuous.
	We know that it's 98%, I'm sorry, 97% of all scientists say it's Haitians who are moving there.
	And yeah, I'm sure you get some people who've been around for 17, 18 years and they want to move.
	And I call out to our Scandinavian producers, I need some boots on the ground reporting.
	What are people saying?
	Do you have Antifa?
	Do you have them saying, oh, you can't turn these people back?
	And what do you feel about your prime minister?
	The United States apparently is frustrated by a lack of information on the would-be refugees who have been crossing into Canada.
	Why isn't Canada's border agency telling the United States more information about who these recent borders crossers are and how they got there?
	I know that it is a very good thing that our Minister of Public Safety, Ralph Goodell, is right now meeting with Homeland Security Secretary Kelly to discuss these and other issues.
	Canada has a strong and rigorous system for processing refugees and immigrants.
	We do not compromise on security.
	We ensure that we know everything there is to know about people arriving to our shores.
	And at the same time, we are also committed to protecting the privacy rights of Canadians and of people in Canada.
	As we move forward in a way that is close collaboration and partnership with our friends and allies, we continue to understand that it is important to defend people's rights.
	Getting that balance right is always a thoughtful and engaged process in which we will continue to work carefully with allies like the United States to ensure that we're both meeting the needs and concerns around security and staying true to respecting our rights.
	Yeah, blah-de-blah-de-blah.
	You can't have it both ways, Mr.
	Trudeau.
	You can't be the open, fun-loving Canada and at the same time be sending these people back.
	Or it sounds to me like they're talking about ramping up surveillance because we have to be mindful of our citizens' privacy.
	I'm not sure why else he would mention that.
	I think he's telegraphing something, doesn't even realize it.
	But I'd like to know, how is this going down in Canada?
	What do people think?
	Are we going to have protests?
	Are we going to have the same thing here?
	Are you worse than we are, Canada?
	I mean, will you have sanctuary cities?
	I need to know.
	I'm very excited.
	Sanctuary city in Canada.
	What's going to happen?
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	Right now they're putting them in the stadium.
	Oh well.
	Oh well.
	Yeah, they're going to have to do good.
	I think maybe this is our scheme all along.
	Send them all to Canada.
	Bro, beautiful.
	Go to Canada.
	It's great.
	And apparently once you're in, you request asylum, then you're in.
	Do it.
	So I picked up, I was watching one of these, you know, American Heroes channel or something.
	One of these, you know, they either play Hitler or Histories or aliens on the moon.
	Yeah, good stuff, good stuff.
	Yeah, but they also did this whole CIA series, which I'm wondering how they, I don't know where they got the permission to do these, but they played the outline of the Guatemalan takeover that the CIA orchestrated in 1954, which is one of the early schemes of When the CIA was really, you know, trying to take over governments and cause revolutions, they're having a lot of fun.
	And I believe that this particular story here, and I've been saving this for about a month, about the Guatemalan takeover in 1954 and the way the CIA orchestrated it, which was mostly through lying to Kind of for a couple of things.
	One, it brought into the schools, which, by the way, doesn't make any sense anymore, but they still talk about it.
	Oh, the first thing you want to do in a revolution is take over the radio station.
	You've heard this.
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, well, this is where it comes from.
	It comes from this particular episode in time in 1954.
	This doesn't work anymore, by the way, as far as I can see.
	But I think that this model that they created is the one they still try to use Even though they try to use it on the public itself, like American public, in their battle against Trump, perhaps.
	But it's a fascinating story because they took over a whole country with more or less nothing but bullcrap.
	Just lies.
	So let's try this.
	Let's listen to this.
	I think it'd be fun.
	Eight days into the CIA-backed coup of Guatemala and rebel leader Castillo Armas still hasn't ousted the Guatemalan president, Jacobo Arbenz, from power.
	Two new fighter planes and psychological warfare have together begun to make their mark.
	And now, the CIA plays its very last trick.
	Right at this critical stage, Phillips introduced what he called his most important big lie.
	The important big lie is the final stage of the fake radio broadcasts, which present an entirely made-up version of the invasion.
	So in some ways there were two invasions.
	There was the real invasion that showed a paltry invasion force, its numbers reduced by half.
	And then there was the map created by Radio Liberacion.
	It suggested the force was having unimpeded progress.
	The CIA radio broadcasts tell of one victory after another.
	An invasion which in reality doesn't exist at all.
	Rebel forces were moving.
	They were moving towards the capital.
	The invasion was successful.
	The uprising was coming.
	It was one tale after another of the inevitable victory of the rebel forces.
	The biggest lie of all is when the radio reports that thousands and thousands of fictitious soldiers are closing in on Guatemala City itself.
	And the lie was the two military columns were advancing on the Capitol, ready to take it over.
	The big lie gamble now pays off.
	Thousands fled the city.
	Car traffic stopped.
	The city itself was slowly becoming paralyzed.
	People ran to the outskirts of the city.
	They were fleeing to safety.
	This conjures up some fascinating ideas, but I'll wait because I know you have a second clip.
	Yeah, this was an interesting...
	By the way, I think it's Denise D'Souza, one of these guys, who just came up with a book called The Big Lie, which is talking about what's going on today.
	But this whole thing, when you watch this, and it's a little longer than what I have, obviously, it's just a fascinating mechanism that worked in 1954.
	And I think that the CIA and some of these other agencies...
	I think they're still using this old playbook, not to much effect, not to good effect, and I think a lot of the failures that took place in stories like The Legacy of Ashes and other books that came out discussing some of their flops, I think it's all because of this huge success.
	That took place as play part two.
	The critical moment of the big lie is when the senior officers turn against the Guatemalan president.
	The big payoff for black psyops comes when several army colonels make clear to Arbenz that they're not going to stand with him.
	They basically tell him, you and your communist friends have got us in trouble with the Americans and now you've got to step down.
	One by one, the officers around Arbenz distance themselves from the isolated president.
	So you're a colonel in the Guatemalan army.
	You're hearing news of military action.
	And you're starting to ask yourself, where am I going to be?
	Where am I going to stand when the dust settles?
	Politically isolated, the pressure on Arbenz surges to dizzying heights.
	Not only does he fear defeat at the hand of Armas, but also the terrifying prospect that America is behind him.
	It's not the issue of us fighting Castillo Armas and his guys.
	It's that the United States is threatening to invade and we'd have to fight them.
	He was sitting in his presidential office, bewildered and unsure what to do.
	He had collapsed internally.
	The CIA had brilliantly undermined them.
	And that was really the end of his brain.
	With the officers turning against him, on June 27th, Arbenz resigns.
	He just couldn't handle it.
	The psychological pressures were too enormous.
	Ten days later, Castillo Armas is sworn in as Guatemala's new president.
	The exiled colonel, who just over a week earlier was a relatively unknown figure, is now the most powerful man in the country.
	In Washington, Operation PB Success goes down as a huge victory.
	By all accounts, this is an operation that should not have succeeded.
	This was made possible by gutsy determination and, in some ways, Crazy abandon.
	Operation PB success was a brilliant deception.
	One of the great artistic achievements of illusion that the CIA ever produced.
	Beautiful theater of the mind.
	I love it.
	Yes, it's great.
	And you know, I think we could teach CIA a lesson because this would still work today.
	But, you know, the whole concept of a radio or television, that's not how you want to do this.
	We could actually do this.
	So here's the scene.
	If you're going to do this on Facebook Live, that's how you're going to do it, with a crappy-ass iPhone.
	If you're going to go down in the dark, and, you know, it's like I'm on the Texas border with Mexico.
	It's like, John, I'm here!
	I'm seeing...
	I think we have ISIS.
	ISIS is actually coming across the border, John.
	Oh, no, John, ISIS is here.
	Look, you can see that.
	And he goes from the background.
	I don't want to step back.
	I don't want to step back.
	I'm telling you, we could freak people out.
	And people would take it seriously.
	I guarantee you people will take it seriously for a little while.
	Well, they took all the bogus reports, remember, during the, I guess, during part of the Syrian conflict where they had this people doing live reports from one of the, not Raqqa, but whatever, Homs or whatever the town was, and there's no proof of any of it.
	The gas attack that Trump took as serious, which seemed pretty sketchy, the Russians denied all this.
	This is being done on a mediocre basis, but if you had some hot shots doing it, somebody that really could do it well, wag the dog level, I think you could have some fun with it.
	Yeah, but they need to do it on Facebook.
	You have to have something you want to accomplish.
	They need to do it on Facebook Live, that's for sure.
	That's the only way to do it.
	They can have multiple reports, whatever you want to do.
	Well, the news media, I mean the big networks, they fall for it because besides the fact that they don't seem to be that bright, they've already fallen for it.
	They've followed Trump's tweets.
	You know, like it's a Word from, you know, Mount Zion or something.
	It's just, oh, Trump tweeted today, and another tweet came here, and a tweet came there, and then they have different analysts come on and...
	Look at the tweets!
	...kind of go on analyzing the tweets.
	What did he mean?
	He's unglued!
	He's unglued.
	Unglued, unhinged, big orange Cheeto.
	I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda In the morning And we do have some people to thank for show 958.
	Yes.
	958.
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	Taylor Cuzella in Alpharetta, Georgia came in with $112.35 with a red note.
	I'm broke, but F it.
	Enjoy the Fibonacci dough.
	$112.35.
	Nice.
	1-1-2-3-5.
	Nice Fibonacci numbers.
	Last episode sucked with you two fighting and nipping at each other.
	My god, Douchebag Callout for the WTC7 won't go away and John's F-bomb of the day, Jingle Creator Sir Rock Spaz and Gmart Loving Me.
	Not sure who that was a douchebag for, but okay.
	Oh, Sir Patrick Coble, the one responsible for the train meetup as far as I'm concerned.
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	Happy birthday to our son, James, as he turns to lucky number seven earlier this week on 8-22.
	Yep, a bit of karma coming up.
	And he is on the list.
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	I didn't have to look for it.
	I know what it is because it's Kevin Johnson, 6, liquid natural gas.
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	That's why I don't want to get a vanity number.
	Yeah, because liquid natural gas is so cool.
	It is.
	It's a big part of the show.
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	I don't have a note.
	I just said, I don't know why I put that.
	Montoya is 5005.
	He's in Bakersfield, California.
	And he came all the way up from Bakersfield to go to Sacramento to look at the train museum.
	I mean, which is a long way.
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	Ron Pepper, happy birthday to his sister, Nona, Sir Patrick Coble, to his son, James, who turned 7 on August 22nd.
	And Megan Richley, who says happy birthday to her husband, Dave.
	He has a note here.
	His birthday is tomorrow.
	He turned me, our 19 and 15 year old sons, on to you guys in the last six months.
	How refreshing it is to listen to some reason in the world.
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	And happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	We have no nights.
	No title changes.
	No nights again.
	We need insta nights.
	No nothing.
	No nothing.
	But I do have a nice little ditty, something we've talked about, that we've talked about extensively.
	I think you kind of turned me on to it, about the jury pool being...
	Being corrupted by TV. Yeah, thinking that everything's like, zoom in, rotate, enhance.
	Yes, we got him.
	Get your DNA back in 15 minutes.
	Yeah, the DNA is what it's...
	And it's finally coming to a head.
	The DNA scam.
	Even the brain professor put a post on the face bag about the headache of the DNA crisis.
	As it turns out, you know, these DNA tests aren't all that great.
	They are not always so incredibly conclusive.
	Then new cases are being opened up and it's just not the way it is in CSI Miami.
	Or New York or any other CSI for that matter.
	Inside Edition of all programs did their own version of proving there's something up by testing identical twins, triplets, and even quadruplets with the commercially available 23andMe and what is it, AncestryDNA.
	I think they tested all of them.
	This is me.
	The commercials run day and night.
	A simple swab of the cheek from Family Tree DNA. Companies offering to unlock the secrets to your ancestry.
	Order your DNA kit for only $99 today.
	Millions of people are buying these home DNA test kits.
	Here we go!
	So we got to wondering, how accurate are they?
	What would happen if, for example, triplets took the tests?
	You'd certainly expect them to have identical ancestry.
	I think they'll be the same.
	I think it'll be the same.
	So we found a set of identical triplets.
	We have done the same DNA. Erica McGraw is the daughter-in-law of Dr.
	Phil McGraw.
	Her husband, Jay, is the executive producer of TV's The Doctors.
	Erica and her sisters used the popular test 23andMe.
	Move your arm out further.
	We also tested the Maynard triplets.
	You may remember them from their appearance on American Idol.
	It's the rain in May.
	We sent their swabs to a test kit company called Family Tree DNA. And these identical triplets from New Jersey used a kit from Ancestry DNA. We even added in this rare set of identical quadruplets.
	There's something that they can all sing, apparently.
	You are all 99% European.
	But the test from 23andMe also showed some surprising differences.
	For example, Nicole, you're 11% French and German.
	But Erica, you're 22.3% French and German.
	Wow, that's weird.
	And Jocelyn, you're 18%.
	Let's see how the Maynard triplets did with their test from Family Tree DNA. According to the kit you took, these are the results.
	They all showed British Isles ancestry, but how is it that the range was so different?
	Erin had 59%, Mandy 66%, and Melissa 70%.
	And how is it possible that Mandy showed 6% Scandinavian ancestry, but her identical sisters showed none?
	We're not to a place yet where you can just spit in a cup and have every single answer that you're looking for.
	I think that that's what people need to be aware of.
	Since our test, Family Tree DNA says they've improved their algorithm and they'll be implementing the new method in the next several weeks.
	23andMe said the results they feature on their website have a 50% confidence level, but if a customer chooses a higher level of confidence, the results will be more generic.
	It's bullcrap.
	It's total bullcrap.
	I'm very disappointed that no one in this group was Askenazi Jew.
	That makes no sense.
	Because everyone's Askenazi Jew according to these tests.
	Well, that reminds me again of the jury pool being corrupted with the idea that what we just witnessed here, which seems to indicate this is nonsense, with my favorite thing.
	And I didn't have to talk to a lab about this.
	I actually have some lab stuff I want to have done with some chemicals I'm looking for.
	Wow.
	What chemicals are you talking about?
	Manganese.
	And so I'm looking at the thing goes like this.
	What are we going to do?
	We haven't got his DNA. He's not going to volunteer to give us a swab.
	I've got the glass he touched.
	Yes.
	He touched the glass.
	We've got him.
	Yeah, okay.
	He left, through his greasy hand, he's left his DNA somehow.
	And by the way, another one I think that they missed out on, an inside edition.
	Because, you know, it's a good show.
	Victoria works there.
	Yeah, we know Vicky.
	And she, anyway, the idea is to do a dog swab.
	I'd put somebody out there.
	Send that and see what the dog swab comes back at.
	Yeah, see what the dog swab is.
	I know what it's going to be.
	Hey, I got a real phrase from the Shays.
	Since you're slacking.
	Yeah, I am slacking.
	I gotta get back on track.
	Here's one.
	Blowing smoke up your ass.
	Okay.
	This is not just a saying.
	This goes back to 1746 when a woman was left unconscious after nearly drowning.
	Her husband allegedly took the suggestion of administering a tobacco enema to revive her, a practice that was rising in popularity at the time as a possible answer to the frequent local instances of drowning.
	With little choice, the man took a tobacco-filled pipe, inserted the stem into his wife's rectum, and blew a bunch of smoke up there.
	As strange as it may sound today, it reportedly worked, the hot embers of the tobacco leaf jolting the wife back into consciousness, and the practice grew quickly from there.
	This is a couple of articles that I put in the show notes.
	And by the late 1700s, the method had become a regularly applied medical procedure, mostly used to revive people thought to be nearly deceased, usually drowning victims.
	The process was so common, in fact, that several major waterways kept the instrument, consisting of bellows and a flexible tube, nearby in case of such emergencies.
	So blowing smoke up my ass has a history.
	Wow.
	How about that?
	I'm stunned.
	Once again.
	I will now go back to work.
	I got a bunch of them backed up of cool phrases that people don't understand.
	It comes up at the dinner with the millennials.
	It's like you say something.
	What?
	What does that mean?
	To explain it in great detail.
	Hey, I see that you got the clip here, so...
	The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	That's right, everybody, it's time for Tech News!
	All the tech hornies, move aside, we got the real tech news for you here!
	Yeah, let's play this clip.
	You gonna tell me what you want to set it up or just play this clip?
	Now to a big consumer headline this evening.
	A shopping showdown as Google and Walmart announced they're teaming up to take on Amazon.
	Stepping up the fight for your money.
	NBC's Joe Fryer now with details.
	In the battle of the retail giants, brick-and-mortar powerhouse Walmart now has an unlikely ally, tech titan Google.
	Two huge companies teaming up to take on the country's biggest online retailer, Amazon.
	This partnership keeps Walmart relevant.
	They've owned the retail space of the past and this partnership with Google can propel them into the future.
	This Google-Walmart partnership starts in late September and will focus on voice-activated shopping.
	Alexa, buy paper towels.
	The top search result for paper towels is Bounty White.
	It's an emerging e-commerce trend that uses these high-tech speakers.
	Alexa, order more dog food.
	Amazon currently dominates the market with a popular gadget called the Echo.
	Shoppers can order products simply by speaking.
	Google's answer to the Echo is the Google Home.
	It links consumers to Google Express, a virtual shopping mall with more than 40 retailers.
	Walmart's the first one letting customers link their store accounts to Google so the tech company can examine their shopping history to reorder items faster and get recommendations.
	Voice ordering is the next frontier many think when it comes to ordering and Walmart wants to make sure that they've put their stake in the ground.
	For Google, analysts say it's a chance to boost sales for Google Home, which lags behind the Echo.
	And for consumers...
	When companies compete, they innovate, and that lowers prices and makes it more convenient for the consumers.
	Giving shoppers...
	Alexa!
	Okay, Google, a voice.
	I would like to remind everybody that several years ago, I tested this device, and I said, if this had an Apple logo on it, people would be losing their crap over it.
	And I was correct.
	And I think I also said correctly, this is the shopping interface of the future.
	And that's what it's for.
	That has always been their intent.
	Ugh.
	I know you don't like it.
	Sonos.
	And by the way, you can link your Walmart account.
	Yeah, great.
	Who has a Walmart account to link?
	You'd be surprised.
	All right, so here's the problem with this.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I mean, you can stop me.
	But you go, order me some paper towels.
	Order me some garbage bags.
	Do you ever get to get out of the house?
	Go shopping.
	Go buy your garbage bags.
	For one thing, I'm not going to be able to get the garbage bags I want.
	The ones I want are just a specific one at Costco.
	I have to go to Costco.
	And when I go to Costco, I might pick up some other things like some, you know, red wine or some lamb chops.
	There's a lot of things you want to do.
	I'm not going to order this stuff with my voice.
	I like some because when I go by the lamb chops, I have an X number of people coming over and I have to count the number of lamb chops in the package.
	And whether they're thick or whether they're all beat up or they're fatty, maybe.
	I look at the meat.
	I say, this meat's too fatty.
	I don't want this meat.
	And I go buy something else.
	I make a change on the spot.
	I make a change on the fly.
	You can't do that with all this kind of bullcrap ordering.
	And I don't know what kind of...
	You know, I like paper towels.
	There's a lot of different kinds of paper towels.
	And I personally like the ones that got prints on them.
	I think they're funny.
	And they look, you know, they're old lady paper towels.
	And you look at, oh, there's paper towels on sale.
	Let me get those.
	Or I go to Target.
	I'll buy some paper towels there.
	I'm just not rigid.
	I'm buying just one thing.
	Oh, I'm going to get lamb chops, whether they're good or bad.
	This is nonsense.
	This is crazy.
	People should, they should refuse to do business with this horrible machine.
	All right.
	I am going to give you my report from the 21st century.
	That I am responsible for the pantry in this household.
	Tina has a real job.
	I, however, am a podcaster.
	And yeah, I really don't get out of the house much.
	I'll be the first to admit that.
	Here is how I do it.
	There are a number of items that I order through Amazon for the household.
	The shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, and I'll order packs of five.
	It's handy.
	It's very handy.
	And most of these come from Amazon.
	Okay, hold on.
	You're ordering shampoo from Amazon using the talking device?
	Yes.
	Do you want me to...
	I'll tell you what I'm doing.
	The talking device.
	Let me write that down.
	The talking stick, John.
	Talking.
	You're using the talking stick?
	Talking stick.
	Yes, I'm using the talking stick, you see.
	Yes, because once you have ordered it through Amazon, yes, it's in my history, then I only have to say, book of knowledge, because as you know, I've changed my name, mine's name.
	I say, book of knowledge, and I say, reorder shampoo.
	And then the talking stick will say, oh, in your history, you have this.
	Do you want me to reorder it?
	I say yes, and it's done, and it's very convenient.
	The other thing I have here in the 21st century is Instacart.
	Austin is a test bed for all of these services, and this is where you pay someone else's child of the same age to go and get your groceries.
	And I do the same thing.
	All the annoying, big, heavy stuff, and I already know what I like, and I can buy from Costco through the app.
	I can order anything from Costco in their Costco sizes through the app, or HEB, or Whole Foods, or whatever.
	And I can order it all mix and match.
	It doesn't have to be from one store.
	And then someone else's child brings it to my door.
	And I'll even say, come on in and put it right here on the kitchen counter.
	And I can put it away.
	And you pay a fee for that, obviously.
	But it's less than the grief you would get from your kids for doing it.
	This, of course, used to take place in the 30s, 40s, and 50s.
	Most grocery stores have this service, and many of them continue to have this service.
	A lot of people just don't realize it.
	I'm actually seeing a resurgence.
	HEB now has its own delivery service and their app, because it's really the convenience of the app and how it tracks.
	So when it's time for me to, you know, maybe twice a week, I go into the app and I see view what I previously ordered, like click, click, click, click.
	Now, every day...
	Almost every day, except show days, around three, I hop in the truck and I drive to the grocery store and I select what I'm going to cook for that evening.
	And I will look at it, because of course I'm not going to have someone, some Instacart shopper or the talking stick, deliver my prime meat or fish or chicken for that matter.
	I don't really eat chicken anymore.
	Really, I need to do that myself.
	And it's very enjoyable, John, because then I don't have to lug around all the other heavy crap.
	I like the bounty paper towel that has the half sheets, but I don't want any gay designs on it.
	And that just comes...
	I resemble that.
	And by the way, most of the paper towels now have half sheets.
	I like the half sheets.
	Well, everybody likes to have sheets.
	Anyway, I will tell you, being from the future, Amazon has a lock on this.
	They were very smart to do it.
	They have a lock on it.
	And yes, all of the privacy concerns, all that's all perfectly valid.
	I'm just saying they have a lock on it.
	And all they need to do is buy Instacart and just say, reorder that, reorder that, I need some of that.
	And then the child will bring it.
	People like this.
	It's a slave.
	Yes!
	Hello!
	Yes, it is.
	But it's a paid slave.
	Well, let's go back.
	Okay, well, that's fine.
	I'm glad that this is working out for you.
	Now, but let's go back to the story.
	What chance do you think Google and what is it even legal?
	Does anyone think Google is like pushing their luck here with antitrust?
	With what they're teaming up with Walmart?
	This isn't a positive thing for society.
	No.
	What do you think of the Google-Walmart deal?
	Yeah, I mean, the privacy concerns is really the issue.
	But...
	You know, look...
	And if they're going to compete with, if Google's teaming up with Walmart, are they going to try to screw over, because Google has the ability to do that, screw over Amazon somehow?
	They're going to try.
	I'm sure they will.
	This is what the battle is about.
	I'm very happy I'm in Austin.
	I do get to try all this stuff.
	And, you know, the same with favor.
	It's another one.
	It's like, you know, on the days that we don't feel like going out or don't feel like cooking, it's like, just have some child bring the food from the actual restaurant we didn't want to go to.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	Yes.
	But meanwhile, to play into your question, Sonos, and I have a Sonos system here, wireless speaker system, they just updated their terms of service saying, okay, here's all the stuff we're going to track, IP addresses, logins, although, of course, we keep your salted hash password, blah, blah, blah, devices you use, I mean, all the typical stuff.
	But if you do not agree to the terms of service, then we cannot guarantee your devices will work.
	So you really have to agree to the terms of service.
	What devices are you talking about?
	The wireless speakers from Sonos.
	That's what you use for Hello Google?
	No, but they're going to implement one.
	So they're going to go in as a third party?
	Are they going to interface with Amazon or Walmart?
	Or do you have any idea?
	My thinking, from what I've read, is that they will try to integrate all of the services.
	They want to be the speakers.
	They don't want to develop their own voice, stick, stick voice.
	They want to be able to incorporate Siri and Google, Cortana, whatever, and Alexa, all of that.
	What are you going to say to it?
	Are you going to say Cortana does Cortana stuff?
	I think so.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Hello, Cortana.
	That's their idea.
	I'm Siri.
	I'm Siri, not Cortana.
	I rebuke Cortana.
	They could be fighting with each other.
	What about if you're using a VPN? How's that working?
	I don't know.
	Now, I'm going to move on to two other quick topics.
	One is Spotify.
	I'm watching this very closely.
	Spotify is gearing up for their initial public offering.
	This company does not make any money.
	They lose money.
	And arguably, the music business is ruined because of this, because of the streaming.
	I think I can argue that point.
	I won't do it now.
	First news we got early in the week is Goldman Sachs already sold a lot of their insider shares before they even got on the roadshow for the IPO. And now, Spotify, I believe, is so desperate, they plan to bypass the IPO and list directly on the New York Stock Exchange without an institutional trading house behind them.
	That's...
	Are they going to do a reverse merger?
	How are they going to do that?
	That's not that doable.
	Well, I can read the article from Bloomberg for you.
	Yes, please.
	Spotify executives have met with U.S. regulators scrutinizing the music company's plan to skip a traditional share sale and list directly on the New York Stock Exchange Senior Spotify executives met with U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission officials last month, said the people who asked not to be identified discussed at private meetings.
	Regulators asked for the meeting to get details on the plan by the world's largest paid music streaming service to do an end run around an initial public offering, the conventional route to listing shares.
	The company has remained in touch with the SEC, and talks are ongoing.
	Well, I'm going to have to ask somebody how this works, because the reason you do the IPO is because you offer a bunch of shares, 20 million shares, and you sell them directly, and you take that money and put it in your coffers.
	If you're going to just dribble it out as though it was already being traded, where's the big pot of money?
	It's not an IPO. And what's the point?
	I don't think they can get an underwriter.
	I think that's the problem.
	I think everyone looked at Spotify and went, I'm not going to underwrite that piece of crap.
	Well, I thought you said Goldman Sachs was going to do it.
	But they sold their shares.
	Well, that's fine.
	You can still be out of it and just underwrite for the basis of the company getting some money.
	Yeah, but underwriting means that you stand guaranteed to buy those shares when it starts trading, and they clearly don't believe in it.
	Lower the price.
	I don't understand.
	I'm going to have to look into this because this makes zero sense to me.
	Spotify is a well-known company.
	People invest in anything.
	It could possibly make money somewhere down the road after destroying the industry.
	That would sound like a horror story.
	The monster that ate Hollywood.
	Talk to Horowitz about it.
	He may know something.
	And then finally, just for me, I just had to chuckle as Volkswagen apparently has announced they are going to build an electric version of the Volkswagen microbus.
	Yes.
	And I wanted to get your take on this because the way I looked and it was, oh, so cool.
	Totally getting want on my Pinterest needed.
	Oh, yes.
	I'm thinking to myself, self, The Volkswagen bus represented the ultimate freedom machine.
	You got your bus, you threw a mattress in it, you were driving across the country to Monterey, baby.
	You were going everywhere through the desert.
	You had freedom!
	How, in Allah's name, does the electric version of that convey the same freedom?
	It doesn't.
	And no one is saying, gee, It's brain damage.
	Global brain damage.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	Electric vehicles.
	Can't wait to get it!
	I'll be free for 150 miles!
	If that...
	I'm free.
	I'm free to go to Whole Foods.
	I'm free to go.
	And hopefully there'll be a charging station.
	Every time the local Whole Foods here in Berkeley, and this is going to be everywhere, the local Whole Foods, you go there, I take my gasoline car, and I go there, and I look at all these charging racks there, and they're all full.
	Yeah, yes!
	There's four of them, and they can have 20 of them.
	They'd be full.
	They're full up.
	And then, yesterday, when I went there to get somewhere yesterday, the day before whenever, recently, I go there, and one of the electrical things is just laying there on the thing where you can roll over it with a shopping guy.
	I think these things are dangerous.
	Yeah, the amperage is quite high on these charging stations.
	They can be dangerous.
	We know that the EMTs and firefighters receive special instructions on what to and what not to do when there's an electric vehicle involved in an incident.
	Or a hybrid.
	Yeah, you can get electrocuted.
	Yeah, easily.
	Yeah.
	Well, you can burn to death in a gasoline car.
	Have you seen the counter-argument?
	The Teslas flame out.
	They can flame.
	Well, we got a note from one of our producers who's bitching.
	He says that no one wants to talk about it because, you know, every time you talk about anything regarding the Tesla, Musk calls you personally and yells at you.
	Is that he says the underside of where the batteries all are is so unprotected that if you...
	And this happens to everybody at least once every few years.
	You'd be driving along and you hit something on the road and it goes under and bangs underneath the car.
	Bottoms out.
	Yeah, bottoms the pan, yeah.
	Or bangs.
	You know, something that goes flying in there.
	Boom!
	He says it happened to him and it wrecked the car.
	Because of just the this, it totaled the car.
	Yeah.
	And he says the insurance was $100,000.
	He had to take all the insurance.
	He lost, ended up losing the car.
	It was a lease thing or something.
	He lost a lot of money by driving this thing around.
	And it was, I don't know, I didn't know.
	I mean, I could read the letter.
	It was a tale of woe.
	Let's put it that way.
	Yeah.
	But I just continue to be amazed.
	The people buy into this idea of freedom, freedom cars and just beautiful, free.
	I'm free finally from big oil.
	Screw those guys.
	They're like tobacco guys lying everywhere.
	Just, I hate Trump.
	I've got my electric vehicle.
	Until the grid goes down.
	Yeah, electric vehicle equals hate Trump.
	That's pretty much it.
	So I had a, I got just a short clip.
	This is a woman that's getting her chance.
	She's on PBS, the national show.
	She's a local from Phoenix.
	She's reporting on the Trump rally.
	Oh, good, good, good, good, good.
	And so she makes a short clip.
	She makes a gaffe.
	And you can just see she's Trying to figure out if she should do anything.
	No.
	She's going to plow through it using the old, maybe nobody will notice.
	Follow him.
	They're still with the president.
	Arizona has been a red conservative state for many, many years, although I do have to mention that in the 2016 election, Hillary Trump was behind Donald Trump just by 3.5%.
	So right now...
	Nobody noticed.
	Honey, you were great.
	No one heard you.
	Don't worry about it.
	You're fantastic.
	You'll do even better next time.
	I'm going to give you a clip of the day.
	I'm generous today.
	Clip of the day.
	I'll give you that one.
	I'll give you that one.
	I'll give you that.
	I was wondering about the genesis of the report that North Korea has miniaturized nukes.
	And I was wondering about this.
	How did this just pop up all of a sudden?
	How did this just come to the forefront?
	Where did it come from?
	This is a podcast.
	Colonel John Antal, I think.
	These retired, I think he lists some of his credits in this clip, and he knows where the report came from.
	That's correct.
	I served seven years in Korea in different tours.
	I commanded a tank battalion consisting of infantry, armor, and artillery.
	There was a task force, actually, Dragon Force, they called it, on the DMZ for two years.
	And also served in high-level staffs in the Combined Forces Command and the United States Forces Korea.
	Plus, I was very involved with the 3rd Armored Corps in the United States at Fort Hood, involving planning for contingencies if we ever went to war in Korea.
	So I've been following it very closely.
	I travel there a lot.
	I know a lot of people in the Korean military and, of course, our U.S. military, and I've been keeping very abreast of the situation and talking with some of the decision makers.
	So it's interesting right now.
	To see where we are.
	Let's talk a little bit about the rocket capability and the news from a DIA report leaked into the American media that they have miniaturized nuclear warheads.
	In other words, they have at least, from a standpoint of pieces on the ground, a complete ICBM weapons system.
	It doesn't look like they've done an all-up test.
	But what are your thoughts on that particular happenstance and the fact that we now know that those miniaturized warheads exist?
	Well, a report came out today saying that President Obama was briefed about that about a year ago.
	Okay.
	It's all bullcrap.
	It's totally all bullcrap.
	I only have the one...
	I want you to play us out, but I have a question.
	Do you remember...
	Liz McCain, she was the BBC reporter who exposed Jimmy Savile and all the pedophilia going on, certainly in show business in the UK. Yeah.
	And she actually quit in 2013 after executives decided to ban her investigation and said, no, no, we can't be reporting on this.
	You remember her?
	Vaguely.
	Well, she's dead.
	52.
	Why would I laugh?
	52.
	There you go.
	She's dead.
	I think that's kind of the point you've always been making.
	Yeah, this is why we don't talk about it too much.
	That's why the...
	Station was burned down, thanks to you.
	Yes!
	Yeah, you start talking about the elites and their pedophilia, and before you know it...
	You're dead.
	You got a number three best-selling book on the New York Times bestseller list.
	Well, let's finish with another screwy story, which is this is the second missile destroyer Yes.
	That was rammed by a tanker and they fired, it's not in this report, but they fired the head of the 7th Fleet, I think yesterday.
	And this is like now, at this point, somebody's got to say, has the Navy been hacked or what?
	Tonight, the Navy has now ordered an investigation looking into the performance of its entire Pacific fleet as it pauses operations worldwide.
	NBC's Janice Mackey-Fryer is in Singapore with more.
	Tonight, once again, a frantic search at sea for missing U.S. sailors.
	Ten unaccounted for after the USS John S. McCain was struck by a tanker, the destroyer gashed, dented, and listing.
	Navy officials now ordering a temporary halt to their entire operations to figure out why two incredibly sophisticated Navy ships have collided with other vessels in just two months.
	The Chief of Naval Operations' broader inquiry will look at all related accidents, incidents at sea.
	It happened in the darkness.
	5.24 a.m.
	local time, the USS McCain passing east of the busy Strait of Malacca, on its way to Singapore, colliding violently with a larger 600-foot oil and chemical tanker.
	The USS McCain taking on water, including flooding inside the rooms where crew members sleep.
	Yes, I have thoughts and information.
	You first.
	I'm interested.
	Well, I truly now believe, in conjunction with what happened in Cuba, with the sonic weapon, I believe we're...
	I have a clip for that if you want to play it.
	Yes, let's play it.
	What is it?
	It is...
	Cuban diplomat fiasco.
	Yeah.
	Okay, good.
	Next tonight, to that diplomatic mystery now deepening, we've reported here on several U.S. officials working in Cuba suffering symptoms so serious they were rushed home for treatment.
	At one point, it was blamed on some sort of sonic device.
	Well, tonight, the State Department is now being asked, did any of the workers suffer from traumatic brain injury?
	ABC's Victor Akendo from Miami tonight.
	Tonight, new details about the mysterious illness that sickened American officials in Cuba.
	This is unprecedented.
	We have not seen this type of activity take place before.
	The State Department revealing today that some of those Americans had to be medically evacuated to Miami for treatment and testing.
	The best equipment is not going to necessarily be on the ground in Cuba.
	We are bringing people to the best medical experts on the mainland in the United States.
	Starting in December of 2016, sources say it appears some officials were exposed to a sonic device in Havana that caused serious health problems and physical symptoms, including hearing loss.
	Now sources are telling our Miami station WPLG those symptoms included memory loss, loss of balance, and vision issues.
	Experts tell ABC News that sound waves above and below the range of human hearing could potentially cause permanent damage.
	The State Department today pressed on a report that some officials were diagnosed with injuries as severe as brain injury.
	I'm not going to confirm the medical status of any U.S. government personnel, but what has happened there is of great concern to the U.S. government.
	The U.S. has responded by expelling two Cuban diplomats earlier this year, the Secretary of State recently calling it an attack and demanding answers.
	We hold the Cuban authorities responsible for finding out who is carrying out these health attacks on not just our diplomats, but as you've seen now, there are other cases with other diplomats as well.
	Yeah, I'm really forming an opinion based on evidence that we see here, or at least, you know, these clips if you want to call it evidence.
	To me, this really started, and while I was listening to this clip, I was looking for one of the clips of, and it happened a couple times in a row, where you had usually an entertainment reporter, and then it was as if they got zapped by something, and they started talking total, utter nonsense.
	Yeah, the babbling.
	Yeah, do you remember what we might have called that clip?
	Babbling, for sure.
	No, that's not it.
	I don't remember, but we probably did about...
	Three, maybe more of those.
	Yeah, I'll have to see if I can find some.
	This is years ago.
	And I think we even asserted then, this could be a test of some kind, see if the system works.
	This is definitely a sonic weapon.
	I mean, look how serious the State Department is taking it.
	There's no poo-pooing.
	We're not really going to comment on the medical condition.
	And you can say sonic weapon, but...
	I would say it's a form of a directed energy weapon.
	It would be a sound wave energy.
	Well, there's two reports.
	One that we played about two or three weeks ago when this first came up from a CIA guy saying, don't jump to conclusions.
	And then WikiLeaks came out with a report that the CIA again is talking about this.
	I think it was a CIA weapon that they were testing.
	And we don't mind testing stuff on our own people.
	Well, this is either a test, or we are under, and I think this is a very scary test, of these ships.
	And as it would be in our production universe, one of our producers, Stepson, was on the McCain.
	And he wrote me a note.
	Because I, of course, said, if you talk to him, he said, yes, I talk to him.
	Yeah, well, you know, hey, I mean, I'm really happy he's safe, but, dude, you've got to mine him for information.
	And so he wrote me a note.
	This is a producer.
	I'm not going to name his last name.
	I don't know if he wants to stay anonymous.
	Producer Greg.
	The only thing of interest he mentioned was that the boat suffered a power failure to critical components.
	Notice he didn't say power failure to everything.
	I'm beginning to wonder if there's some kind of weird experimental directed EMP weapon being tested.
	This is at least the fourth collision in the last 18 months, and most of the reports, if I recall correctly, started with some sort of catastrophic power failure.
	At any rate, I have no clue what actually happened.
	I'm just happy my step's unsafe, alive, and well, but ache for him as I know that he knew the 10 sailors who were missing and most likely dead.
	He has a tough road ahead of him.
	Of course, we're thinking of him as well.
	But this is not supposed to happen.
	failure to critical components.
	This is not something that's going to happen.
	You spend it.
	The Navy spends extra money for hardened components.
	I mean, it's not the kind of stuff you'd even buy if you're building a machine yourself.
	They spend extra money for components that do not are not susceptible to these issues.
	Supposed Supposedly.
	Millspec.
	Millspec, baby.
	This podcast is Millspec.
	We're Millspec.
	That's right.
	Well, we're also out of here.
	Yes, well, we'll have to talk about this a little more, of course.
	We will, because it's going to continue.
	Yes.
	It's stopping anytime soon.
	Well, I'm going to be on the lookout for more entertainment reporters going wacky with their speech.
	I think that was stage one.
	I think that's over.
	Oh, but maybe bring it back just to, you know, throw us off guard.
	Maybe.
	Possibility.
	All right, everybody.
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