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Who are these people?
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, August 17, 2017.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 9 or 5, 6.
This is No Agenda.
No.
It's show day, so you know there's crap going down.
And coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet in downtown Austin Tejas, capital of the drone star state, in the Cludio.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where things are calm around these parts, I'm John C. DeVore.
It's crackball and buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's going down, show day.
This terrorist attack brought to you by the No Agenda Show.
It's unbelievable.
Explain what's going down.
As we begin the show, apparently, there was a terrorist attack in all places.
Barcelona.
Barcelona.
Yeah, so I've got my guys on the ground...
It seems like several hundred people wounded, probably...
They say one dead.
I'm looking at some video.
It doesn't look like just one.
Van.
So they drove a van through the crowd, and then they ran into some shop, and just a minute ago there was reports of...
Who's the they?
The they...
What I've heard is confirmed ISIS. Uh-oh.
Uh-uh.
Yes.
Two suspects.
One is cornered by police in the shop.
They were armed, ran into a restaurant after they stopped the van.
And there was an explosion just heard.
So, yeah.
There you go.
They're watching the American news and saying...
Hey, hey, we're not getting any attention here.
You know, I was thinking about this.
What happened to all the highly-end, the high-end produced ISIS videos?
Why did that stop?
I guess their consulting gig ended.
I love those.
Those were great.
I know, that's a good question.
Why don't we...
We should take our Nazis, and they hate brown people, should go get some ISIS guys.
Yeah.
It seems like confluence makes a lot of sense.
You know, before we go on with anything, I was thinking about this, and this actually, this ISIS attack actually fits in well with this.
I don't want to have a clip or anything, because nobody cares.
Everybody cares about Trump.
And so I'm going to read you a piece from the New Republic.
By the way, that is only in the United States.
In Europe, believe me, they're talking about this.
Well, that's what we have to get.
Just so you know.
But I still harken back on the six-week cycle.
Oh, there is six-week cycle stuff going on.
Listen, why is the FBI, this is from the New Republic, why is the FBI creating extremists instead of catching them?
The events in Charlottesville this week just demonstrated that America is a violent race that's right and is organized, mobilized, and ready to kill.
But instead of going after these already dangerous radicals, the FBI is busy radicalizing people who otherwise might not be bothered with public violence.
This is much evident in the case of Jerry Drake Vanell.
I have a clip.
For the first time, Jerry Varnell's family is speaking out.
They say Varnell is not a domestic terrorist, but rather somebody struggling with mental illness who needs help.
According to the FBI, Varnell is an anti-government extremist who wanted to start a new revolution.
They say he got what he thought was bomb-making materials from a paid FBI informant, drove to the bank first headquarters, and planned to detonate the bomb.
Agents say Varnell even had a bunker on his property he shared with his parents in Sayre that he would use when the government collapsed.
He was picked up after an eight-month investigation.
Now Varnell's parents have released a statement to several media outlets saying their son suffers with schizophrenia and that what truly has us flabbergasted is that the FBI knew he was schizophrenic.
The state of Oklahoma found him mentally incompetent and we, his parents, have legal guardianship over him by the court.
According to the article, the FBI set him up, as usual, pushed him.
They said the bombing that Vanell believed he was playing was entirely fake and concocted by the FBI to entrap him.
What he thought was a bomb was not a bomb.
What he thought was a stolen cargo van was not.
What he thought was a detonator was not.
It goes on and on.
This is the old...
Six-week cycle that I guess has been just under the radar.
Well, here's what I think was going on.
This was very, well, unfortunately planned.
I think it was kind of like, hey, you know, it's the summer of resistance.
We've got to get something going.
We've got to make some people look bad.
We've got to make us look good.
And then Charlottesville happened pretty much simultaneously, and it blew their whole news cycle.
They didn't get anything.
They got no love on this action.
None.
Someone's head needs to roll.
This was not a good gambit this time.
His bunker is like a port-a-cabin.
It's really sad.
This guy's clearly retarded.
I'll use that word.
He has schizophrenia.
He has all kinds of issues.
And they just pick him up and he's under guardianship of his parents.
That's really bad.
They could do better than this.
Yeah, they could.
They could.
Hey, just briefly, I did not do the InfoWars hosting gig yesterday.
And I'll tell you why.
People are not listening right now.
They may be listening, but they're not hearing what you're saying.
And, you know, there is so much name-calling and aggressiveness.
I thought, you know, Sunday night or Monday morning, I was like...
I don't need this hassle in my life.
I don't need this.
I want our show to be our show, and we'll talk about stuff that we need to talk about on our show.
And if anyone's going to stop this show, it'll be us, and it won't be because we're all of a sudden branded as Nazis, which would be very easy by association.
Well, I don't know how easy it would be, I think.
What do you mean?
People are calling Alex Jones a Nazi right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, this is not something the show needs.
I have responsibility towards producers of this show.
Yes.
And you too.
Well, first of all, I listened to that show and I think that was a wise decision.
I would normally like to give you crap for not doing something.
But I couldn't because I listened to the show and that Pincharic guy, whatever his name is.
Pchenik.
Pchenik.
That guy's off the rails.
I mean, it's like, and he just can't stop talking.
It's like...
One of our producers, because I was doing other stuff, one of our producers caught him saying something.
Pchenik is his name.
Pchenik.
Yeah.
That I wanted to play here.
He was talking about Richard Spencer and the other guy, these organizers, and how they're a bunch of pussies, which I think is true.
But he slips a little bit on something.
And I called up my friends, the Conservative Republics in Montana, and they say, this is a brat.
And so he was picked up because he is a brat.
He's easily controlled.
He has nothing to do with Semitism or anti-Semitism.
He's just a jerk who has nothing to do, and he's lazy.
The same thing with Signer.
Signer is a Jewish kid who's a schlep.
He never worked a day in his life.
He was part of the transition group under Obama.
So what happens is the deep state, some of us come in, we pick each one of these guys.
Did you catch it?
Some of us.
He's part of the deep state.
He's admitting it right there.
Some of us come and pick this guy up.
By the way, Alex Jones did call me personally.
He said, I totally get it.
I totally understand.
Not a problem.
He says, best not to make a big deal about it because they'll never leave you alone.
He would know, I guess.
Oh, yeah.
He would know.
Yeah.
Well, see, here's what I'm going to read something.
There's an article I probably should put in the show notes.
It's in Vanity Fair and Lying on the Hive, which is a very humorously written screed by this guy, Wolcott, who writes for Vanity Fair.
Why is the alt-left the problem, too?
A lot of people would deny it even exists, but this guy goes on and on with an alt-left screed.
He was drawn...
To this by Mark Ames, who is bitching about this piece, because he's named in it as a joker.
Who's Mark Ames?
Mark Ames is the writer.
He used to be a pando, but he's actually a guy.
Oh, okay.
I know.
He's the guy who lived in Russia with Ty Eby.
Yes, yes.
Troublemakers.
Troublemakers in Russia, yeah.
Troublemakers in Russia.
I'm just going to read this.
He goes on about these different websites.
He says, Mickey Krause, a former contributor to liberal percolators of ideas and opinions.
I have to read this kind of like Jiminy Glick.
Has Washington Monthly, the New Republic, Harpers and Slate, who migrated sideways and down to the right wing daily, college in a temporary hitch as a columnist for Breitbart, Bug House in 2016, serves as a tweeting defender.
Punchline's coming.
Of Trump's proposal, while other beavers on Twitter include Michael Tracy, Freddie DeBoer, Mark Ames, Conor Kilpatrick, a Jacobin contributor, Jeremy Scahill, and similar fun guys.
Uh-oh.
A progressive congresswoman from Hawaii.
What?
Yes.
Yeah.
You're alt-left.
Don't let anybody kid you.
I love her.
I know.
We all know.
I am alt-left.
Yes.
Well, there you go.
Just give me a descriptor.
I need to go change all my clothes now.
Get my badges changed.
Badges.
My badges, my badges.
Well, we're throwing around a lot of terms.
And they're being conflated very easily.
White supremacists, Nazi, KKK, white nationalists, an important one we'll talk about.
And all of that kind of lumped into alt-right.
Then the president launched or relaunched alt-left.
I mean, we're a pretty pathetic bunch of losers in general calling each other names everywhere.
It's tiring.
It's tiring to do my job.
But I do want to talk, I think people listen to the No Agenda show and help produce it, and they've certainly helped a lot today for me on my end with info and clips and stuff.
People are always looking for a little bit of sanity because the, I mean, I saw things that really only work visually.
You can't, it doesn't really work in audio.
But when I saw Anderson Cooper, I'll call him Cooper for a moment here.
And, you know, he's talking about what the president said, and then he says, now we need to take a look at this rally where the president said, well, this is, you know, there were other people there too.
And he cuts to, it was actually from their newscast, a produced package from Vice.
Which includes scary music.
I want to mention this.
This Vice piece that you're talking about showed up on NBC. Everywhere.
It's everywhere.
It showed up on the Jimmy Kimmel show.
And it showed up all over the place.
And it includes a soundtrack which doesn't really necessarily match what's going on.
And we have to remember that Vice...
I think we've discussed this before.
Vice...
It creates a lot of this.
Absolutely.
And I think this package, this thing with some of the Jews, there's a little jingle that they have that you can see four people singing, but then when they cut away the camera two, because this is very well produced on film, it's either on film or made to look like it's on film.
I think it was a red camera.
That's what it looked like to me.
It could have been.
But, you know, Sony has cameras that do that.
But whatever they had, it was produced.
It was either a one-camera shoot where they had to, okay, stop, stop, stop.
We've got to start again and do this and take another angle.
Or they had more than one camera in the production.
And it was overproduced to an extreme.
There's also a little interview that went with it, which also showed up on NBC. We'll play these things.
Yeah.
I was very disappointed that they would use this.
Well, but to me...
And, you know, there are two things that I noticed.
Tina, of course, works, and, you know, she has a real job, and she comes home, and she says, holy crap, what is the president saying now?
And, you know, because, of course, she's at work, and she's reading headlines, hearing sound bites.
Because she's working, she's doing others, like most people, not like us, like pouring through this stuff continuously.
And I said, well, why don't I show you the C-SPAN version?
And so I played that.
Oh, I got a very different impression.
I thought that this was a press conference.
This was all statements he was making.
So, you know, even the context.
And Trump is so clippable.
I mean, he's just beautifully clippable to just little sound bites, little snippets.
And, you know, without context, you could pretty much turn it into anything you want, good or not good.
And then subsequently, I said, now, because I was watching Pooper, and I see him go to this clip, and he said, now I'm thinking I should have clipped it, but what he did not say is this is a pre-produced package.
He's like, let's just take a look at some footage that Vice shot there on the scene.
And I showed it to her, and she didn't notice it.
Until I said, well, I said, do you see what just happened?
She said, what do you mean?
I said, no, do you see that they just went to...
She said, holy crap, you're right.
This stuff slips in.
I mean, it's very, very subtle and very well done.
Well, no.
What do you mean?
No, it's very well done.
It's propagandistic.
It's cheating.
I think it was very poorly done.
They went from a video, video, video to this movie look, and then it was like this...
No, I didn't mean that.
I mean, pooper going to the video.
That was well done.
That's what I mean.
That was good.
And they have this blood and soil and all these scary things, which, by the way, is what the Ukrainian neo-Nazi slogan was in recent history.
You know, the ones that John McCain hung out with.
Oh, yeah.
It's okay when the Ukrainians do this, by the way.
Now, just to start off, I want to remind us of something their leader, Nancy Pelosi, said.
Let me see.
I have a date stamp on this.
I think it was, oh, this is only June.
Right now, our fight is to defeat the repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
And that's part of the resistance summer.
And so the middle class, which is the backbone of our democracy, really depends on our activism in the resistance summer.
And the public sentiment that we have to channel into the events that the chairman was mentioning under the auspices of many of the groups out there in this...
It was summer resistance, resistance summer.
She's such a moron.
I think she meant the summer of resistance.
That's what she's trying to say.
Then we have it.
We have the resistance summer.
We got it.
We got exactly what we were promised.
And there's a lot of different groups at play here.
And I would say, predominantly, a bunch of kids who have nothing better to do because it's summertime.
And school's out.
And, hey, I got an idea.
Let's go participate in this.
Do you want to first talk about the president, what he said?
I mean, I don't know if there's anything to be said.
Well, let's do a couple background clips if we want to go there.
Yeah, that's probably a good idea.
And I have a lot to pick and choose from, but the...
I'm thinking that the ones that were follow-up clips that were done on NBC, and I have a series of these.
They've got one, two, three, four clips.
There's one of them short, the rest of them are kind of long.
But I think maybe going over this, we give a little idea of what's going on, because this is the NBC follow-up clips where they use Vice.
Mm-hmm.
And this would be NBC follow-up to using Vice's story as evidence against Trump.
Lester.
Hallie Jackson on Fifth Avenue here in New York.
We can hear protesters in the background there.
Thank you.
I want to take a closer look now at what the president said late this afternoon when he blamed, quote, both sides for the violence and what we know about the events that took place over the weekend in Charlottesville.
Do his claims stand up?
Here's NBC's Gabe Gutierrez.
Well, they actually asked the question, though.
That's impressive.
Instead of the normal meme, which is, I can't believe he even said that.
Well, they had this...
You have to take into account that this...
We're beginning here after already about an eight-minute presentation that's going to continue.
There was somebody that documented 70% of all the news over the last four or five days.
Ever since...
I don't remember the exact date of the Charlotte event anymore.
Charlottesville event anymore because...
They just keep playing it day after day after day after day, and it's just clogging the news media with analysis after analysis.
So this is so far down the line, this I think ran on Friday, that it's like at some point, how are we going to couch this once again?
And so I think you're being generous after all the rest of it that's gone on.
Sorry.
Here's NBC's Gabe Gutierrez.
Jews will not replace us!
Jews will not replace us!
They were there to protest.
Excuse me.
You take a look the night before.
They were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.
This was that night.
You had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.
But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?
But many were, and several, such as white nationalist Christopher Cantwell, interviewed by Vice News, advocated violence.
I'm carrying a pistol.
I go to the gym all the time.
I'm trying to make myself more capable of violence.
I'm here to spread ideas, talk, in the hopes that somebody more capable will come along and do that.
Somebody like Donald Trump who does not give his daughter to a Jew.
So Donald Trump, but like more racist.
Yeah, a lot more racist than Donald Trump.
I actually have the longer piece of that for my little presentation later.
Now, of course, this is...
Did you hear there's a little thing in there?
It was like, that was not this night.
Did you hear that?
No, I missed that.
Oh, my goodness.
It was dynamite.
Let me see if I can roll that back here somewhere.
Because they should be condemned.
Sorry?
I'm just going to say, because they go right from this piece that you were complimentary about, right into the vice piece.
By the way, that's a different vice piece.
As I'm watching this, I'm thinking, this has been going on for days now, and where was the news media people with their cameras recording this?
Well, this is an overall question I have, and I want, hold on, let me just find this one piece in the clip, and then I want to ask you that question.
You take a look, the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.
This was that night.
I said this was that night.
I'm sorry, my mistake.
What I've been missing, and that's what I did a little bit of work on today, I've been missing, who are these people?
You get little snippets and little sound bites of people, but who are these Nazis?
I want to know, what is their effing problem?
What do they really want?
It can't be as simple as, just kill the Jews and the blacks.
And what is this, Jews will not replace us?
I had to extrapolate this.
This has to do with the taking down of the Robert E. Lee statue.
So Jews, somehow Jews are responsible for this.
And they're replacing the statue.
But they're not replacing anything.
They're just taking the statue down.
We've got to get to that.
I want to hear these clips.
Okay.
And then I want to get into some stuff.
And also, what is Antifa?
How do you even pronounce it?
Who are these people?
What do they really want?
I have answers.
Okay, well let's finish these four clips.
Okay.
Are you still on the first clip?
No, no, that's done.
Number two?
Does it need to...
Well, let's see if there's anything I need to set up.
No.
The president today did denounce violence, but once again spread the blame to include counter-protesters.
I will tell you something.
I watch those very closely, much more closely than you people.
And I just will take exception again with the continuous moniker counter-protesters.
That is...
Dishonest.
That's dishonest to call them that.
Counter-protesters.
Have you ever heard this term anywhere in any situation?
Yeah, a lot.
Only in America.
I haven't heard this anywhere else.
I've never heard this.
No, this is an American term.
Today did denounce violence, but once again spread the blame to include counter-protesters.
I will tell you something.
I watched those very closely, much more closely than you people watched it.
And you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent.
The Charlottesville police chief, when asked whether one side was more responsible than the other, said it was an alt-right rally.
But witnesses say both sides came prepared for a fight.
We did have mutually combative individuals in the crowd.
But the chief said the white nationalists did not follow the agreed-upon plan and began entering the park from other directions.
The rally's organizers, including Jason Kessler, have said they were following the law and were nonviolent.
Clearly, some were.
I'm not even saying we're non-violent.
I'm not saying that we didn't aggress.
We did not initiate force against anybody.
We're not non-violent.
We'll kill these people if we have to.
I only tell you this.
There are two sides to a story.
I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country.
A horrible moment.
But there are two sides.
Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe just released a written statement calling what happened here an act of domestic terrorism.
This was not both sides, he says.
A public memorial for the woman who was killed at this intersection, Heather Heyer, is scheduled for tomorrow.
So, just back to the Vice piece for a moment, there's some more clips from that in that piece as well.
But if you watch the Vice piece from the 14th, this is from the 15th, I have to comment on this last clip before you go there.
A couple of things.
One, McAuliffe says it was a one-sided thing.
The sheriff of the town said it was two-sided.
I just want to make that certain.
Oh, sure.
And Trump...
Because he was goaded into all this, because he's not that good at what he...
There's a thing I have later with Mooch, who was on the Colbert show, which kind of was a good line by Colbert.
This was an opportunity for Trump to get at McAuliffe, who's the guy who's a huge hill bot, the governor of Virginia.
And he took no advantage of this.
I found it to be very disappointing.
Because he could have blamed the whole thing on Governor McAuliffe, who ended up coming out smelling like a rose.
Made the police stand down.
Yeah.
No, he could have done a lot more than he did.
It was very poorly executed.
Here's what's interesting.
If you watch the Vice piece from the 14th, that's the one that Pooper played.
You will see right off the bat, three instances in this video, you see the counter-protesters starting the violence.
It's on camera.
It's like people don't hear, they don't see.
I mean, it's right in front of Pooper's face.
And you see them starting to attack.
At least in the piece.
I don't know if that's what happened on the ground, but in the piece, three times.
It was very surprising.
Now, regarding the president...
I'm quite sure that he said this because a lot of people in America feel this way.
So in that regard, wait for the hate, I think that was brave of him to say.
But looking at the balance of knowing what the news media does, knowing how people listen or don't listen, I think it was very stupid.
Very, very...
On the president's part.
Yes, very stupid.
Yeah, he walked right into it.
Really?
And I think that a lot of...
He could have come out to do this second press conference.
This is the one where he got ambushed.
And did you say Mnuchin just standing there?
Just standing?
Because they were presenting a transportation bill.
It was really pathetic.
Yeah, and instead of saying, look, we talked about this yesterday, I already gave him a statement, which he did.
He gave that straight statement where he said everybody was a bunch of bad Nazis...
And then they goaded him into this.
It was mostly Holly Berry of NBC, by the way.
She's the one, if I'm not mistaken, is the one who really got it going.
They had a camera on her while she was doing it.
Of course, that was an NBC presentation.
And they got him going.
When he should have said, look, we talked about this.
We're talking about this now.
But no, he's so easy.
I mean, it looks like it anyway.
He should rethink his...
To ease it, which they can goad him into blowing up like this and just falling right into it.
In this case, media wins.
Media beats Trump.
Big time.
But I'll say, big miscalculation on his part.
Because it really, really, really changed the dynamics of all conversations.
At least on the face bag.
But, I mean, people just lost their crap over this.
That he could not anticipate that, I don't know if his emotions got the better of him, but I'm quite sure that he wanted to point this out, because as we know, it's basically true.
Yes, there are good and bad people on all sides.
Yes, and you know what?
Just look at the footage, people.
Look at every single bit of, go to YouTube, anywhere you can.
It was really a small skirmish.
Maybe two, and you know, the torch thing.
I mean, it really wasn't, you know, a couple of pushing, shoving, beating.
Amusing at best.
The other thing is, there's one guy.
There was only a few, there's no footage of anything other than, of course, the horrific automobile.
There's the footage of the one guy, and everybody showed, there's one guy, you can't find a second guy that I know of, wearing kind of a khaki, army green t-shirt, walking around with a Nazi flag.
Yeah.
It's the one guy.
And he's always finding somebody that's walking with a Confederate flag, and he goes and positions himself next to them long enough.
We don't know if he's told to get out of the line.
We don't know.
Because they don't show it.
They just show him walking along with the Confederate guy.
He's got the Nazi flag.
And the Confederate flag guy's looking forward.
He doesn't know this guy's standing next to him.
I think they would have rebuked him.
Yes.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that this guy was out of place.
He looked out of place.
He was too young.
He didn't look like a skinhead.
He looked like a guy who was hired to do this.
And I believe he was.
And FBI admits they had several federal informants on the scene.
Let me see what they said.
The FBI source has said it's unlikely an asset would be charged for stoking violence.
We wouldn't do a solid informant for this.
That's what they said.
They said we had informants there, but we wouldn't.
We've done it before.
Well, they, yeah.
And when we talk about informants, we're talking about sometimes schizophrenic, mentally retarded people who the FBI riles up to do crazy stuff.
How many examples do we have?
20?
Maybe?
We've got 10 years worth.
10 years worth of six-week cycle.
Exactly.
All right, your next clip.
The president's remarks today triggered an instant backlash, not just among his critics, but also within the very Republican Party that he leads.
We get more on this from NBC News Capitol Hill correspondent Casey Hunt.
Even before his stunning press conference ended, the fiery reaction beginning.
Thank you.
Swift condemnation from so many corners of American life, including members of the president's own party.
Republicans upset he doubled down, blaming both sides again for the violence.
Republican Congresswoman Ileana Ross-Layton in tweeting, blaming both sides for Charlottesville?
No.
Back to relativism when dealing with KKK, Nazi sympathizers, white supremacists?
Just no.
Senator Marco Rubio, who lost the Republican nomination, again tweeting the president should call the events in Charlottesville, quote, a terror attack by white supremacists.
Democratic Senator Mark Warner tweeting, no words.
And beyond the beltway, celebrities and sports stars weighing in.
James writing on Twitter, hate has always existed in America.
Yes, we know that.
But Donald Trump just made it fashionable again.
But the president did earn praise from one corner, white supremacists, who took it as a sign of acceptance.
David Duke, the former KKK Grand Wizard, writing, Thank you, President Trump, for your honesty and courage to tell the truth about Charlottesville.
And white nationalist Richard Spencer said the president's remarks were fair and down-to-earth.
But minutes ago, more sharp criticism from AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, saying he'll resign from the president's manufacturing council.
Yeah, you know, that was...
I thought about this, about the resignations from the...
From the manufacturing council and started with the CEO of Merck, who, of course, had to do this because he's black.
So I understand the pressure must have been tremendous.
Oh, yeah.
No, there's no way a black CEO can stay.
And that's his personal stuff.
And then you get, you know, if you look at Under Armour and a couple other companies, here's what's really interesting to me.
All of these companies, Merck is a great example, but because the CEO is black, it doesn't really apply in this case.
But let's take Under Armour.
You know, they advertise...
They are really...
The advertisers are really gods when it comes to everything.
And I'm sure we'll get to that later.
Particularly when it comes to demonetization of my YouTube channel.
You know, you're an idiot.
This has nothing to do with censorship.
You're just an idiot.
Okay?
You know, this is advertisers.
They are God.
I'll repeat.
The advertisers are God.
They determine what happens.
So what's interesting is that you have these companies, and Under Armour does a lot of stuff for consumers, but their biggest client is the Pentagon.
And they spend a lot of money to mind-control you with advertising and through the complicit nature of the relationship with the media, native ads, etc., to buy their products.
And, you know, go to your stupid job and work hard and then go home and watch TV, watch some ads, and like, oh, I need to buy more stuff.
But what the dumb sheeple like ourselves do not realize is that we have tremendous power because these guys are resigning because they're publicly listed companies.
If you have an outrage against Under Armour, your stock will tank.
All kinds of crazy crap will happen.
And so, it's this vicious circle that spins around and around and around, and people don't actually understand that they have tremendous power over all these organizations.
It's mind-boggling when you think about it.
Yes, we do have a lot of power, the public does.
And that's why a lot of pressure groups use the public, they get the public, and they say, here are the advertisers, and we did...
We've done stuff with this before.
Here are the advertisers of Sean Hannity.
Go after them.
And then you hound the advertisers and the advertisers pull their ads and the next thing you know, Sean Hannity's out of a job.
And that's the way the whole system works.
At the end of the day, and I said at the end of the day, but at the end of the day, like you said, it's the public that has all the power.
So you manipulate them, you can get anywhere.
During the day, I'm watching stuff, but I typically have CNBC on.
I really enjoy CNBC because they give you the headlines, but very brief, and it's not, you know, they're just trying to get through their day.
Then CEO after CEO was coming on and talking about, you know, how horrible the president is and how they had given him the benefit of the doubt.
I mean, it was really, I was listening, I was like, holy crap.
I don't know if they're actually going to abandon him.
I doubt it.
But it shows you how far we've gone now with this name-calling, shaming, whatever it is.
And right now it's Nazis.
And again, white nationalism is the word that is continuously being used and interchanged with white supremacists and KKK and alt-right.
And this is one big bucket.
But it's really...
Now we have this...
And I think it's unexpected because these protests are professionally organized and I have evidence that certainly the Democratic Party was a part of this because you just have to look at the signs.
Actually, let me do this right now.
If you just look at the signs that people are carrying, you've got to look at the professional signs because there are always a couple of professional signs.
This is congressofresistance.org, and I'm going to play this little video that they have on their site.
Throughout history, communities across the country have stood up against racism, war, injustice, inequality, poverty wages, and all forms of oppression.
The same spirit that fueled the resistance movements of yesterday continued to fuel the flames of our resistance today.
All across the country, people have been fighting back against the inequality and poverty that oppressed communities across the United States.
Standing Rock galvanized the country, and for a moment, the power of the people stopped the oil mobiles dead in their tracks.
Ferguson and Baltimore youth rose up to say Black Lives Matter and demanded an end to the racist police brutality and mass incarceration across the country.
Immigrants and women went on strike to stand up against Trump's racist and sexist agenda.
It goes beyond Trump.
The whole U.S. Congress, which claims to represent the people, in fact represents corporate lobbyists and is facilitating the wholesale attack on poor and working class communities.
On the other side, it is everyday people who are fighting to defend the rights and programs that our families deserve.
Together, we will write a manifesto to unite our many struggles.
It is we who create change.
Together, we will define the social, economic, and political revolution that we need.
Make your voice heard.
Rise against injustice.
Join the People's Congress of Resistance.
We will be our own representatives, and together, we will become a new power that is capable of challenging the existing power.
There you go.
The new power of the People's Congress.
Now, this is run by an outfit called Nation Builder, which I'm pretty sure we've discussed in the past.
The donations go straight into Nation Builder, and this is a 100% Democratic National Committee outfit.
Board members of NationBuilder, Ben Horowitz from Andreessen Horowitz, Stacey Donahue, partner at Meteor Network, Sean Parker, Napster, and Facebook.
I mean, this is...
It is a Silicon Valley operation.
This is the Silicon Valley operation, which is intended to discredit...
The Republicans, all of them, anybody really, they'll discredit Bernie Sanders, and this is purely for the Democrats they like.
So it's propaganda, and people are being paid to go and hold signs, which is okay, but it needs to be pointed out from time to time.
All right, you got more clips here?
Yeah, let's go on with another one.
That last clip I had mentioned LeBron James.
There's actually LeBron James is actually in this clip, and I think it's kind of telling.
Use that word.
This is taking down monuments in a LeBron James cloak.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You had a fourth...
Oh, I thought you played the fourth.
No, this is the fourth.
Trump could be particularly meaningful because he represents so many of those blue-collar workers who helped Trump to victory in states like Michigan and Wisconsin.
And now there are at least five executives who've resigned from different presidential advisory boards.
There are others who say that they'll stay on.
But also tonight, Lester, the House Speaker, Paul Ryan, tweeting moments ago that white supremacy is repulsive and there can be no moral ambiguity.
All right.
I just have to comment on that particular clip because they mentioned the head of the AFL-CIO as being representative of the Trump supporters.
That makes no sense.
It makes zero sense because I've been in many a union.
I've been in at least four.
And I can tell you from a working class perspective With the authority that the heads of these unions are hated by the rank and file.
They're hated because they're a bunch of, they drive around in limos, they don't do anything for anybody.
As far as they're concerned, that working guy that's, you know, that's supporting them or is paying their salaries is just a jerk beneath them.
That's nonsense.
Just to mention that so people, it's nonsense.
I'm going to get you into the statues, but I have a little path I want to take.
But first, the transition.
Donald loves Nazis.
Donald loves Nazis.
CNN say that he's KKK and he shall sing hail with it.
Wow.
That's how you transition from one topic to the next.
Our producers are the best.
That has to be played more than once.
Yes, that's from Dean the Fat Nerd.
We appreciate it.
Okay, now, so my quest was, who are these people on both sides?
Who is all sides?
What is going on?
Who are they?
I don't know.
Yeah, well, I do.
So we'll start first with, this is the white nationalist speaker from Unite the Right.
And what I think has been snowed under in the story is that Unite the Right was a concept, and I don't know exactly who came with it, or if this is, you know, it could be, I think it's Spencer, but it's a bunch of people who in my mind are iffy in general.
I mean, Spencer...
Richard Spencer, you know, rich kid from Boston.
Very gay tendencies, by the way.
A lot of these guys, which is odd.
Although kind of fits with the Nazi meme.
It totally fits.
It's not odd in the least.
But again, who are these people and what is their problem?
So it was very hard to get anything of value because the news media is not like putting people on.
I don't know why, but if I was running a news station, I'd say, all right, Spencer, come on.
I'd have all these people on.
Who are you?
How did it get to this point?
That would be doing their job.
You don't want that.
Well, I'm going to do their job.
But I'm going to start with the piece from the Vice documentary where this very innocent-looking girl, nice piece, He sits down with Christopher Cantwell, who is an idiot.
The guy is off his rocker.
And he has a podcast.
Are you ready for this?
His podcast is called Radical Agenda.
It's like frightening.
What?
Yes, it's called Radical Agenda.
Yeah, kind of creepy.
So I want you to hear this piece.
It's about a minute.
And I'll give a trigger warning because you could be triggered by some of the things he says.
So when did you get into, as you said, the racial stuff?
When Trayvon Martin case happened, you know, Michael Brown and Tamir Rice and all these different things happen.
Every single case, it's some little black asshole behaving like a savage.
And he gets himself in trouble, shockingly enough.
Whatever whatever whatever problems I might have with my fellow white people, they generally are not inclined to such behavior.
And, you know, you got to kind of take that into consideration when you're when you're thinking about how to organize your society in Oklahoma City.
Okay, so exactly.
You have to go back to Oklahoma City to talk about a white act of terrorism, right?
Elliot Rodger, Dylann Roof.
Okay, so now you've managed to name three people, and I'm pretty sure Elliot Rodger wasn't explicitly white, by the way.
But the thing is, you remember the names of white bombers and mass shooters, okay?
Can you tell me the name of all 19 hijackers on 9-11 off the top of your head?
You can remember Dylann Roof's name.
We were asking whether white people were capable of I didn't say capable.
Of course we're capable.
I'm carrying a pistol.
I go to the gym all the time.
I'm trying to make myself more capable of violence.
I'm here to spread ideas, talk, in the hopes that somebody more capable will come along and do that.
Somebody like Donald Trump who does not give his daughter to a Jew.
So Donald Trump, but, like, more racist.
A lot more racist than Donald Trump.
I don't think that you could feel about race the way I do and watch that Kushner bastard walk around with that beautiful girl, okay?
Can you talk a little bit about the right adopting the politics or the political style of the left?
Because we don't have the camaraderie.
We don't have the trust level that our rivals do.
And that camaraderie and trust is built up through activism, and that is one of the tactics that we're adopting.
Interesting.
So that is the...
Uh-huh.
Well, I gotta say something here.
Yeah.
Did you listen to the last DH Unplugged?
No, I did not.
I'm sorry.
Okay, well, Horowitz got bent out of shape.
And this is something going on from the left side or just the left.
I'm not sure.
But they're trying to recategorize Jews as non-white.
Huh.
Why?
Why?
He doesn't know.
I don't know.
But that's what's going on.
And he was really irked about this because he says, what?
Because look in the mirror.
I mean, he's Jewish, but he's...
You look in the mirror, he's a white guy.
You see him walking down the street, you don't think...
Horowitz?
Horowitz?
Cracker!
Yeah, cracker.
Total cracker.
He's a cracker.
Yeah, totally.
Total cracker.
With Brie.
A cracker with Brie, no less.
And this guy, I believe, is an agent provocateur set up by somebody because he's going on and on about these things, seeming like he's got some, maybe some reasonable explanation to the way he thinks that he throws his Jew thing in.
It's totally off the mark.
There's no reason for him to say that, but he throws it in there just to get points with someone somehow, or to just do it to get a...
I don't know.
Again, it's like, why are...
Why?
Why?
Well, this was not apparent in the video.
At no point did the woman say, why?
Give me the historical issue.
Why are you like this?
Why are you thinking this way?
I can't give you that from this guy, because I agree, agent provocateur-ish for sure.
But I did find an interview on the YouTubes with the poster child.
I thought I was quite lucky to find this.
And when I say poster child, if you saw the Guardian front page when this went down, there's a picture of the torch rally and two neo-Nazis, as they're described in the piece.
And this kid is like, ah!
He's screaming.
He's got kind of like the Hitler-Jugend haircut and everything.
I'm sure you've seen it.
It's a very iconic image.
Very iconic from the torch rally.
And the kid looks scary.
He looks like a freaking Adolf Hitler...
Just insane person yelling.
And, you know, the picture says a thousand words.
So I got an interview with him.
Here we go.
His name is Peter Sventonovic.
And so the question is, are you a white nationalist?
Are you a white supremacist?
Are you KKK? Are you alt-right?
What the hell are you?
I was.
It was mainly after events such as Berkeley and the first Charlottesville that I just wanted to be part of an event.
And with the summertime, there's no school.
I had a lot of free time.
And so to me, distance wasn't really an issue.
In terms of motivation, yeah, I was motivated, but it's just because of my first time to actually be with this political organization.
Man, what the fuck is this?
God damn it.
I cut...
Fuck.
You know what I did.
No, because this is not the piece.
The piece that I wanted to play got left on the cutting room floor.
This is the outtake.
Oh, you pulled a Dvorak.
I did.
Anyway, he calls himself an identitarian.
He sounds terribly gay.
Oh, again, with the gay thing, totally.
Identitarian is what he calls himself.
And now he expands on that.
I identify as an identitarian or as a white nationalist, if you want to use that term.
I prefer identitarian.
I personally believe that...
All cultures and peoples, that includes their languages and their religions and their histories, are under threat with globalism.
And, you know, with the free exchange of peoples is that languages and people will just die out.
And I believe that the white culture in the United States is at threat in its own way.
I want to help defend that, but also, as a white nationalist, I hope to work with the black nationalists so their culture is not wiped away, because they've been around this continent for 400 years, just like whites, and they develop their own culture that's separate and distinct from Africa.
The African-American is its own entity as well, and I hope to work with them as well.
The HOTEPs, I'll gladly work with them, and same with the Native Americans.
I would hope to keep the reservations going.
So, as an identitarian, I want all nations to preserve their culture and their history and their identity.
Tell me, do you identify as a white supremacist?
Do you believe that whites are superior to other races?
I do not at all.
I am not a white supremacist in any sense of the word.
I do not believe that whites are inherently superior in any way to any other race.
I know a lot of stupid whites.
I know a lot of very intelligent Indians and Asians.
So when I see the IQ that I don't believe at all, there's too many factors in what makes an IQ. I know that there are extremes on both ends where there are very intelligent whites.
And they think, oh, this is a superior white person.
In reality, it's just an extreme.
And then on the average of all races, we're the same.
So...
I mean, while we're not identical, there's the beauty in that diversity is that whites should be able to maintain Europe and our place within the world, in North America, South Africa, Australia, and live with the populations that we have an historical imperialistic history with, but we can move forward together on equal footing.
But no, I'm not a white supremacist.
Okay.
Now, this kid who is 18, 17, 18, who had the summer off, he goes down there, and I think I understand where he's coming from.
He feels encroached upon, and he doesn't sound, at least in this interview, like he hates other cultures.
He wants to preserve his own.
And them, too, is some of the sounds of it.
Yes, he wants to preserve everybody's culture, and he feels that, as a white man, we are under attack.
And he says, no, we need to preserve this.
Now he says that we should have Europe, and this, I think, flows into the Defend Europe campaign against the migrants.
And he said, Australia, South Africa.
I'm not so sure about South Africa.
But anyway...
So, he then got his picture on the front page of The Guardian and then the following, and this is how it went down, just to give you an idea of what his life is like right now.
It started Saturday morning.
We were getting breakfast right before we go to the actual rally, and I was told by someone who was in the car, he said, you're on the front page of the Daily Mail.
The Guardian, I'm sorry, The Guardian.
What?
And so I look, and there I am, the front page of The Guardian.
And it just slowly explodes from there.
I see everyone's following it on Twitter, and it's just being retweeted at more and more and more.
And I'm hoping, oh my god, that's me.
I know when I did that, and I got emotional.
And from there, I'm just thinking, Hopefully it doesn't spread as far as it does.
And I just start receiving the basic di-Nazi scum.
And then I get, I'm coming for you.
I get these much longer messages that I know where your university are.
I'm coming for you.
And I found five that I think are in the West Coast.
I feel they're very legitimate.
But I'm going to comb through all the death threats.
But they've been coming nonstop.
And I've literally hundreds of them.
But then I start receiving calls from my sister.
And then my mother.
And then I started using messages from friends.
Then my grandmother.
And then my grandfather, who has the same name as me.
And they're all asking what's going on.
We're receiving these messages.
We were in Charlottesville.
What's going on?
And then as Saturday comes to a close, I'm still...
I'm getting more and more of these.
And I'm being told that my friends are being told, asked where I am.
They're being threatened.
I'm still getting hundreds of death threats.
And it's non-stop ever since then.
Honestly, I don't understand why all the death threats...
I understand the photo is very...
Very bad looking, but I don't believe that you should threaten my family.
Like, to me that's monstrous.
You can call me a Nazi, you can hate my ideology, but I wouldn't threaten anyone.
And yet they're threatening my sister and my mother, my dad, my grandparents.
I love it when you abuse your kids for the show.
Thank you for that.
So, you know, again, very gay kind of vibe around these guys.
And, you know, there's a group who's found each other, and they're clearly unhappy.
I have some thoughts about that.
There's a lot of LARPing going on here, too.
Well, they're all LARPers, really.
They're too young to even have opinions, man.
These are really kids, except for the agent provocateurs.
Now, I went to your beat, and when I saw your clips today, I was happy I didn't see any DN codings in it, because I got some stuff from Democracy Now, because now I want to hear...
So we have two versions.
We got the guy who hates the Jews, and the stupid blacks, and then we got this kid who wants to preserve all cultures, but is worried about his own culture, and then we have the guy who wrote the book on Antifa.
And he was on Democracy Now!
It's Mark Bray.
I think he may be a professor as well.
And he wrote the book, the handbook, the Antifa handbook, which is not released yet, but he got a nice promotion from Democracy Now!
And he's going to give us a little bit of background.
And he would know.
He's all in, but he would know because he wrote the book.
How to pronounce the word, that's important.
I'm happy we finally have that as well as the background of this movement.
Yes, well, it's pronounced antifa.
The emphasis is on the first syllable, and it's pronounced more on than an, so antifa.
Could this just be a war between two factions of gay guys?
It could be like, I've got to go see my aunt, I'm going to go see my aunt.
Seriously, it sounds like all these guys sound gay, don't they?
Well, aunt.
I'm going to go say my aunt.
I'm joining auntie-fa.
Yes, well, it's pronounced auntie-fa.
The emphasis is on the first syllable, and it's pronounced more on than an, so auntie-fa is commonly mispronounced.
Auntie-fa.
Antifa, of course, is short for anti-fascist.
And, you know, President Trump's comments that the quote-unquote alt-left and alt-right are equivalent moral forces is really historically misinformed and morally bankrupt.
The anti-fascist movement has a global history that stretches back about a century.
You can trace them to Italian opposition to Mussolini's black shirts, German opposition to Hitler's brown shirts, anti-fascists from around the world who traveled to Spain to fight in the Spanish Civil War.
More recently, modern Antifa can largely trace its roots to the anti-fascist movement in Britain in the 70s and the post-war period more generally that was responding to a xenophobic backlash against predominantly Caribbean and South Asian migration, also to the German autonomous movement of the 80s, which really, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, had to respond to a really unprecedented neo-Nazi wave, unprecedented in the post-war period, of course.
I just want to stop there for a second.
What do you recall about the riots in the UK, which I thought was about the no jobs and the minors?
No, a lot of it was about student tuition, too.
What is he talking about, then?
He said that there was a fascist movement in Britain.
I don't know what he's talking about.
I don't know what he's talking about when he's discussing 100 years ago when really the fascist movement probably began around 1920.
Almost 100, not quite.
Right, but he's saying that the genesis of this Antifa is the fascist movement in Britain as well as the fascist movement when Germany was reunified.
I didn't know there was a fascist movement when Germany was reunified.
It was a bunch of anti-communist creeps that were in East Germany that were kind of gravitated to a kind of a neo-Nazi movement.
There you go.
Fundamentalism, but fascism specifically is not Nazism either.
No.
Well, we'll get into it.
I mean, true fascism was Mussolini.
I mean, Hitler was a National Socialist.
Yeah.
Although I can see where...
Okay, well, if you want to conjoin the two, for hell with it, you know, fine.
That's what's going on.
The words are being...
Nobody knows their history anymore.
Nobody knows even where the word Nazi comes from.
Well, they don't want to...
They're not going to know any history after they take down all the monuments.
Well, hold on, hold on.
We're going to get to the monuments.
We're getting to the monuments.
Slow down!
Slow down, Bubba!
And then in the United States, we can look at anti-racist action in the 1980s, 1990s, and the early 2000s, which took some of these methods of confronting neo-Nazis and fascists wherever they assemble, shutting down their organizing, and as they said, going where they go.
Today, in an article I wrote for the Washington Post called Who Are the Antifa?
I explain this and show how today's Antifa in the United States are really picking up Okay, so here we know.
Now we understand the background.
And I'm sure people will correct us and tell us what was going on in the UK and Germany so we have a better understanding.
But we have, there it is, the link, of course.
It's all President Trump.
And not just Trump, it's all the Nazis in the White House.
I wanted you to talk, Mark Bray, about the presence of Stephen Bannon and Sebastian Gorka and Stephen Miller in the White House and what that means to Antifa, to the anti-fascist movement.
Right.
Well, the other side of it is it's not just about how many people are part of fascist or neo-Nazi groups.
It's also about the fact that far-right politics have the ability to infiltrate and influence and direct mainstream politics.
And we can see that with the alt-right.
The alt-right is not really actually a lot of people in terms of numbers, but they've had a disproportionate influence on the Trump administration and certain aspects of public discourse.
So the presence of Bannon and Gorka and Miller in the White House really just gives some sort of a hint as to why it is that Trump yesterday basically said there are good people on both sides of this conflict, that Friday night when there were neo-Nazis wielding torches that Friday night when there were neo-Nazis wielding torches in Nazi style and they attacked nonviolent UVA student protesters that he said, oh, well, you know, these are good people.
So part of it is the organized street presence.
But as we saw, by confronting the organized street presence in Charlottesville, this created the question of just how bad these people are.
Because you played earlier, Mitt Romney condemned the fact that there could be blame ascribed to both sides.
Well, prior to Charlottesville, that was the dominant media narrative.
Most mainstream media was saying, oh, well, we have, quote-unquote, violence on both sides.
Hands up.
Who's to say who's right or wrong?
But by confronting this, by putting it in the spotlight, by shining a light on what these people really think, it's shifted the public discourse and pushed back the ability of some of these alt-right figures to try and cloak their fascism.
Okay.
Again, I don't think it's fascism, but that's just a definition.
The meaning of words change over time.
We have to agree to that.
So the final clip here shows you what we can expect from Antifa.
And you already heard a little bit of it there where he says the Antifa.
By the way, he's not saying counter-protesters.
He's calling them Antifa because that's who it was.
And I don't understand why even the democracy now just continues to say anti-protesters when this guy's not around.
They confronted the white supremacists, I think you said, or white nationalists.
They confronted them.
And this is what we're going to see continuously.
The question of how to combat fascism, I think, always needs to come back to discussions of the 1930s and 1940s.
So, clearly we can see that rational discourse and debate was insufficient.
Why?
Why does it have to come back?
Why does it always have to go back to that?
Why?
Well, if he's going to make that argument, then you have to take it back to the origins of fascism, which was an intellectual movement that was begun in the universities.
It was highly adopted by the intellectual class.
I'm sorry.
The universities, you said?
Yeah.
Of course.
Of course.
The question of how to combat fascism, I think, always needs to come back to discussions of the 1930s and 1940s.
So, clearly we can see that rational discourse and debate was insufficient.
Clearly we can see that the mechanisms of parliamentary government were insufficient.
We need to be able to come up with a way to say, how can we make sure never again?
By any means necessary.
That is obviously a throwback to the Holocaust.
So now we've gone from black and white to Jew.
To come up with a way to say, how can we make sure never again?
By any means necessary.
This can never happen again.
And the people back there who witnessed these atrocities committed themselves to that.
So the question is, okay, if you don't think that it's appropriate to physically confront and to stand in front of neo-Nazis who are trying to organize for another genocide now, do you do it after someone...
Do you hear that?
They're trying to organize for another genocide.
I'm not...
Where did you...
Where does this come from?
Well, because he's relating it back to the 30s and 40s.
That's why.
This is the history path that they believe their version of fascism will always lead to, is a genocide.
In front of neo-Nazis who are trying to organize for another genocide now.
Do you do it after someone has died, as they just did?
Do you do it after a dozen people have died?
Do you do it once they're at the footsteps of power?
At what point do you say enough is enough and give up on the liberal notion That what we need to do is essentially create some sort of a regime of rights that allow neo-Nazis and their victims to coexist quote-unquote peacefully and recognize that the neo-Nazis don't want that and that also the anti-fascists are right in not looking at it through that liberal lens but rather seeing fascism not as an opinion that needs to be responded to respectfully but as an enemy to humanity that
needs to be stopped by any means necessary.
And there it is.
They will stop this enemy of humanity by any means necessary, brought to you by the guy who wrote the book on Antifa.
So that is what we can expect.
And the one thing missing from this entire conversation is the constitutional angle.
Watch now as hate speech will suddenly be recognized as something that is not protected by the Constitution.
It's now being conflated with the word incite.
This is my word of the day.
If your word's incite, then it is not protected by free speech.
So carrying a flag could be inciting, and they need to be stopped by any means necessary.
So we can look forward to a lot more fun on television.
Now, I have a conclusion about this, and I'm going to lead you into the monuments after I play two quick clips from Takiyah Thompson.
She is the student who pulled down the Confederate soldier statue in Durham.
The one that crumbled and they all stomped on it.
That's what I'm going to talk about.
Also from Democracy Now!
This is her speech, actually, after...
And it fits right into what you just heard.
I think what we did was the best way...
And not just the best way, but the only way.
Because the state and the Klan and white supremacists have been collaborating, right?
So what we did, not only was it right, it was just.
I did the right thing.
Everyone who was there...
The people did the right thing, and the people will continue to keep making the right choices until every Confederate statue is gone, until white supremacy is gone.
That statue is where it belongs, right?
It needs to be garbage, incinerated.
Like, every Confederate statue and every vestige of white supremacy has to go.
That is a very angry young woman.
But when you think it's only about racism, it's not.
Because she starts to talk a little bit differently about the alt-right, let's just call them that, in her Democracy Now!
interview.
Listen carefully.
Talk about why you engaged in this and exactly what you did.
Okay, I participated in a march and a rally, and I decided to climb to the top of the Confederate soldier's statue and put the rope around its neck and throw the rope down to the crowd, and the crowd could decide if they wanted to pull it down or not.
And I did this because...
The statue is a symbol of nationalism, and it's a symbol of white nationalism.
And the type of white nationalism I'm talking about is the type of white nationalism that is sending me death threats on Facebook.
I'm talking about the type of white nationalist that has killed a woman in a protest.
We're talking about the type of white nationalism that would drive a car at high speeds into a crowd of women and children.
And I think vestiges of that, and I think anything that emboldens those people and anything that gives those people pride, needs to be crushed in the same way that they want to crush black people and the other groups that they target.
All right, so she says nationalist.
Then this is, to me, is a tell that she is...
And if you see the whole interview, it's a little odd.
You know, this is mind control.
This is the no-nations-no-borders crowd who don't want people who are nationalists.
You can call these guys KKK. You can call them, you know, white supremacists.
But when did we come with white nationalists?
No one is...
I mean, this is...
Nationalist is something different than racism.
So we have to be on the lookout because to me this is more a globalist versus nationalist stance.
That's the groups behind these children.
Now, when I saw the footage of this young woman taking down the statue and falling down and bending and crumbling, it was really interesting.
But immediately a white guy comes up, spits on it.
All these white kids are stomping on it.
Then one or two black guys come up and kick it a little bit.
And I thought, what is going on?
And here's just a theory.
What is happening, particularly with, let's just say, non-colored kids.
You can call them white if you wish.
We are all slaves of Gitmo Nation.
These kids, if they're in school, they know that when they get out, there's probably not going to be a job for the stupid degree they got in some social sciences, and they're going to have debt, and they're going to have a student loan to pay off, which is pretty much the definition of slavery.
We have slavery in America right now in our jails, where it doesn't matter what your crime, you're working for 20 cents an hour or a day, I don't know what it is, you're making stuff for commercial corporations like Ikea and others.
We are slaves, and I think somehow we know it.
And these children, who have way too much privilege, who have completely lost their way, have been coddled to death by the same universities that are raping them for their money, they're so frustrated, they feel like they are slaves.
And it's logical.
That you then identify with slavery and your brothers and sisters around you who are black who probably have a better idea of what it's like to be different or perhaps from slave lineage.
And this is a slave revolt on all sides.
I have no other thesis than that they're so frustrated, and some more than others.
And, you know, the Jew thing, what I think, where I think that might come from is the disproportionate representation of Jews in Congress versus the population.
That's an old favorite.
Nah.
I think you're right on all accounts, except the Jew thing.
I think the Jew thing was planted as a distraction.
Okay, we'll take that off the table.
But the slavery thing, I really think there's something to it.
It's the frustration level that is just so incredibly high.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes, there is a frustration level, obviously, and the best example of that was in that video, which is really only fully available on YouTube, of bringing down that statue and then having people stomp on it, was the one girl at the end, one girl with the pigtails.
She comes out and she's wearing mostly black and she is sincerely stomping this thing like it was real and it needed to be killed.
That's real frustration, real anger and not because black lives matter.
I'm telling you.
I know kids.
You got kids.
You know how kids get.
I know how I get.
This is frustration, and it's being ignited over and over again.
And I'm not quite sure what the ultimate goal is other than some kind of societal collapse so George Soros can make money on his put options.
I mean, what else is it?
It is a very, very bad situation.
Yeah.
Well, this happens.
Of course, I poo-poo all these things as a cycle, and this is another one of them.
Can you point to the previous cycle?
I think the slavery concept, I think you're right about that.
I think there is a sense, which is one of the reasons our show works, because we kind of emphasize the slavery aspect of it, of just...
The way it treats people.
Wasn't this just historical thing here?
Wasn't the Weimar Republic very similar?
That people had a lot of time, there was lots of theater, there was lots of gender experimentation going on.
It was a time of abundance.
I don't know about the abundance part.
Well, neither do I now.
I think we should probably, making comparisons is something that long ago.
Well, I'm just trying to find a cycle.
You know, you said cycle.
I'm like, is this a cycle?
Yeah, well, cycles, you know, are not, I'm not equating societal cycles in the United States, which is very singular to anything that ever happens anyplace else.
Okay, fair enough.
All right, well, let's take a look.
So, yeah, just to lead into what you want to talk about, we are now in a position where anything goes, really.
I mean, anything goes.
Anything can be labeled racist.
And, you know, I think probably everybody says racist things.
I don't know if you say racist things, if you hate that race.
But now, you know, we have this issue, and this is what I'm concerned about.
Talking to my millennial who had to stay woke!
The seminal sin amongst younger kids today is to not speak out against racism, genderism, etc.
Except ageism, that's okay.
Ageism is just fine.
Especially when it refers to old white men.
Yes, of the straight variety.
Yeah, straight or right.
We're wrong, man.
We're just wrong.
I lost my train of thought.
Okay, well, let's talk about monuments then.
Damn it, Dvorak.
You'll come up with it.
You'll come up with it in a minute.
And maybe one of these two clips will...
I thought I had it.
No, I don't.
Taking down monuments in LeBron James.
I want you to pay careful attention to what LeBron James says.
Before dawn in Baltimore, Cruz taking down four Confederate monuments to avoid violent protests like those in Charlottesville.
I said, with the climate of this nation, that I think it's very important that we move quickly and quietly.
Workers in Birmingham on the mayor's orders overnight boarding up a Confederate tower.
Here in Leesburg, Virginia, this Confederate statue still fuels deep divisions.
But in the wake of President Trump's controversial comments...
You also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
Zach Richman defends the president's words.
When you have violence, you need to call it on both sides.
You can't just, you know, close one eye and cherry pick from the other side.
Is the president getting a bad rap?
I believe so, yeah.
That outrage blaring from newspaper headlines.
In New York, sympathy for the devils.
In Chicago, fake president.
Definitely makes him less credible as a president to not speak as a leader and bring the country together.
Superstar LeBron James today chiming in.
It's not about the guy that's the so-called president of the United States.
It's about all of us looking in the mirror and saying, what can we do better to help change?
Yeah.
It's not about the so-called president.
He's going to eat shit for that, by the way.
Yeah.
He is.
By the way, in one of the most racist industries in the world, most non-diversified industries in the world.
Yeah, basketball.
I happen to know he's a basketball player.
Yeah, I figured you might have heard of him.
Yeah.
So-called.
Don't ever try bringing that up, by the way, in a conversation.
Yeah.
What?
Don't ever say, how about the NBA? You might as well just go home.
It's just not worth it.
It's just not worth it.
It's still the most entertaining thing there is, at least as far as I'm concerned.
All of football is good.
So let's play the other one.
The statues have to go on NBC. Many other U.S. cities have removed statues or symbols of the Confederacy and now calls are building for more to follow suit.
Let's get more on that angle of the story from NBC's Tom Costello.
Three days after neo-Nazis and white supremacists rallied to protect a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee, the president today suggested removing Confederate monuments, which many believe represent slavery and oppression, may have gone too far.
Are we going to take down statues to judge what?
How about Thomas Jefferson?
But in many cities, there is new momentum to remove the monuments after this weekend's violence.
In Durham, North Carolina, protesters last night tore down a Confederate statue.
The Lexington, Kentucky City Council today took steps to remove two statues.
Maryland's Republican governor today said a statue at the Capitol will come down.
While back in Charlottesville, a court will decide whether the city can remove Robert E. Lee from his pedestal.
In Charlottesville, reaction to the president's comments today.
You would ideally want the president to be supportive of the community, and it feels as if he's attacking us.
Since Dylann Roof massacred nine people in Charleston, 67 Confederate monuments have come down.
But nationwide, there are still 718 monuments to the Confederacy, including eight that stand in the halls of Congress.
It doesn't seem fair that you should take away history.
True, we have things in our history that are not always pleasant, but history is a way of teaching children about the past.
Slavery is at the absolute center of American history.
History professor Edward Ayers says when white nationalists marched with the Nazi flag that Americans died fighting against, any nostalgia for the Confederate flag is tarnished.
Because, in some ways, that devalues that claim to this being a uniquely American heritage of fighting against a strong federal government.
It's reduced to race.
Alt-right speeches have now been canceled in Boston at Texas A&M and in Richmond, Virginia.
The governor of North Carolina said late today he wants to remove all Confederate statues from state property, state grounds.
That'll be a tough order.
Meanwhile, we can tell you as well that right-wing leaders say that they will be back stronger than ever, including back here in Charlottesville.
Lester?
I remembered what I was going to say, and it fits in.
I told you it would.
Yes, the kids today, you can ask any millennial, all of the millennials, all age ranges, if you do not speak up and speak out, then you are enabling and you are just as bad as the racist, genderist, etc., etc., etc.
And so this is driving them crazy.
And I'm not quite sure where it comes from.
I have to speak up.
I have to speak out.
I have to fix the world.
I think part of it is because of climate change.
Part of it, I think, is from the climate change.
Because the kids can't do anything about that.
Make no mistake.
It's terrifying to many people.
Terrifying the way it's presented.
Go watch Gore's movie.
We're all going to die.
So I have to do something.
You can't do much about climate change necessarily, but this inherent need to fix the world to stop it.
And you throw some SSRIs, some SNRIs in there, you got a powder keg!
Well, and then you have the media.
And we have that new jingle that you were playing pre-show with Brian Williams.
It's a highlight.
You might want to pick that out and play it for us for just a little while.
I know it's going to go at the end of the show.
It's quite good.
Of course.
It's a UK PMX. Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death.
Yes, it is!
Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death.
So the talk isn't as free as it is.
To scare.
To scare.
There you go.
Yes, I'll play the rest of that at the end of the show.
And so that would be not helpful.
Not helpful!
Not helpful at all.
As we wrap this up, I do want to have the one thing, because it was discussed on Twitter and then I made a comment, it hasn't happened completely, but it looks like there is the over, the long arch, the big arch, the most important thing is getting rid of people in the Trump administration that you want.
Want to go.
And I have the Bannon, kind of an update.
This is Bannon.
This is the ABC report on Bannon.
Cecilia, the president was also asked about chief strategist Steve Bannon and his future.
The president saying he never spoke to Bannon about how to respond to Charlottesville and about his future.
Here's what the president said.
I like Mr.
Bannon.
He's a friend of mine.
But Mr.
Bannon came on very late.
You know that.
I went through 17 senators, governors, and I won all the primaries.
Mr.
Bannon came on very much later than that.
And I like him.
He's a good man.
He is not a racist.
I can tell you that.
He's a good person.
He actually gets a very unfair press in that regard.
But we'll see what happens with Mr.
Bannon.
But he's a good person, and I think the press treats him, frankly, very unfairly.
Cecilia, the president making no promises about Steve Bannon's future.
Yeah, and he was asked the question of whether he has complete confidence in his controversial chief strategist.
And you could hear the president there.
He didn't actually answer the question.
The president, we know, has grown frustrated with Steve Bannon in recent weeks.
Steve Bannon has openly battled with other aides here in the West Wing.
But, David, as one source tells me, it's only the president's decision As to whether or not Steve Bannon stays or goes at this point.
Don't they know that it's pronounced Banyan?
Are they just out of touch?
Now, the other thing about this is that I know they had to hold back on this because I can just...
So we can't just keep hounding.
We can't nitpick the president forever, although they've been doing a pretty good job of it.
And because the comment he made in that little ditty, which was, I won all the primaries.
Right.
He didn't win all the primaries.
Right.
There was at least two or three of them, I recall, that he didn't win.
And so he didn't win all the primaries, and they could have called him out on that, but...
They didn't know better.
I found that it was like, wow, because you know they could have, and you know they knew that, because I knew it.
And they just couldn't pull the trigger on that one.
Because they're already beating the guy up all show.
Yeah, I'm always looking for places where people can come together and agree on something.
I don't understand.
I mean, Antifa and the counter-protesters and the extreme alt-right nationalists, whatever, supremacists, they all hate Kushner.
Why don't they all get together on that one issue?
They hate Kushner.
One because he's a Jew and the other one because he's a, I don't know, a Jew.
I don't know.
Why can't they get together?
Well, they hate...
I know the right hates him because he's actually a lefty.
He's a Democrat in the White House.
Oh, that's the problem.
That's a big problem.
I think it's a problem.
I don't like Kushner myself.
And...
The other side, the Democrats, I don't know why they don't, but I've gotten into, I did a back and forth with my friends out here, my liberal friends, on Kushner, because they were going after him, and I'm thinking, why?
Good.
I said, good, let him go after him.
He's a Democrat provocateur in the White House.
A Republican White House doesn't need a Democrat liberal in the White House.
And they didn't know what to think of that.
But it was...
What?
Dvorak's agreeing with us.
Something's wrong.
Wait a minute.
We've got to revisit this.
Something must be wrong.
Yeah, they had to change their positions.
Well, anyway, for sure, for sure, for sure, it's divide and conquer.
It always works.
If someone's pulling the strings, then good on you.
You're on track.
You're on point.
And it's working out very well.
But it's going to be...
The last few weeks of summer are going to be interesting.
We have...
Been enjoyable so far.
Yeah, well, the Texas militia are going to do a thing in Austin.
They're saying, bring your guns.
That'll be fun.
We've got 821.
821 is something new.
What's 821?
821 is...
I'm just hearing about this.
That's Nat Turner's...
Is it nothing to do with smoking marijuana?
No, check it out.
Nat Turner's Slave Rebellion, which makes nothing but sense under my thesis.
That the slaves are going to rebel.
They're going to commemorate that, but instead of it being just slaves from Africa, it will be all slaves of Gitmo Nation who are controlled and hate this.
Now the one thing that concerns me, and I'm very fortunate that you are my conversation partner twice a week, What is coming back, and I've seen black leaders say this on television, it's completely into the narrative, and you happen to be, I believe, somewhat of an expert.
What is now being said is the Civil War was about slavery.
Do not listen to people who say it was about states' rights.
That's a lie.
It was about slavery.
John C. Dvorak, you happen to be a Civil War...
Well, actually, there's a book out by Kenneth Stamp...
You should look at it.
It's the reasons for the Civil War.
I think it's available on paper, but I have to get the exact title.
And it explains about 10 different rationales that were used during that era.
And a lot of it had to do with, I think most of it at the time had to do with states' rights.
Slavery was a back reason, was maybe a base reason, because the states wanted to be able to do what they wanted.
And they didn't want to centralize federal government telling them what to do.
And so they started this.
And it used to be, at least in the South, and I'm sure this is foreboding nowadays to call it the war between the states.
It was never considered a civil war.
And civil wars, generally speaking, if you look at any of them that we witnessed, the one in Syria or any that we've ever seen, a civil war is a war that takes place amongst the people within the entire structure of the society.
It's not a group of people on one side of a border.
And another side of a border.
That's different.
Good point.
Than a civil war.
Why is it called the civil war, though?
Because it's convenient.
And it adds to that it was about the slavery.
It's about slaves when, in fact, it was about...
Civil rights.
Yeah, I get it.
Civil.
There is a borderline.
There's a line that was more like a traditional war.
Between one country and another where there's a border that you're fighting over.
Forgive me, John.
What is your background with the Civil War?
Because, you know, people think you're full of crap.
I am full of crap.
So stop listening.
I got a degree in history from Cal and the whole study was about the Civil War.
And pre-Civil War mostly.
But you...
The war between the states is what they call it in the South.
Until recently, I'm sure they're not calling it that anymore.
But that's what it used to be called, and that's what it was.
And just think about, what is a civil war when you see one?
What happened in Russia?
What happened in Charlottesville is a civil war.
That's more of a civil war, like a skirmish.
Anyway, that is...
Civil skirmish, I like it.
Civil skirmish.
It's...
The slavery thing was an element, that's for sure, and it was a major element, but it wasn't the only one, because they were working it out as things went along.
In fact, what would be the point of this?
They were having the abolitionists, we're all in the North, and they're making a big fuss, and they got Lincoln, and Lincoln really is the one who got this thing going when he got in, because, oh my God, because they had sympathizers in the White House, like Buchanan, who was the first.
And Kushner.
Buchanan, who was the president before Lincoln, who was a Democrat, and the first gay president, which people need to remember, and pretty much bankrupted the country.
A lot of people say he sent most of the money to the South to fight an upcoming war.
But once Lincoln got in, then they figured the South figured that the federal government was going to start telling them what to do.
Which is kind of funny.
Who is the absolute authority on civil war, on the war amongst the states?
I don't think there is one.
I think there's about 20.
And do they have consensus about it not necessarily being about slavery?
No, no, no.
There's no consensus about anything amongst historians.
It's almost like science.
Oh boy.
Except for climate change, there's no consensus about anything.
With climate change, there's consensus for some unknown reason.
Yeah.
Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Why the C stands for Civil War Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning to all the ships at the sea, all the subs in the water, the feats in the air, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes, in the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Thanks to the guys in the back office, Bemrose and Void Zero, everyone making sure that we're rolling, everything works.
And I do want to thank Illuminadia, who is female, I found out on the Twitters.
I didn't know.
And she did the artwork for episode 9 or 5-5, Outrage Addiction.
Uh, which is very interesting.
It was the melting crayon with the kind of a stick figure.
It was a nice, it was really a nice piece of art.
And it worked well for the show.
But, you know, this is the kind of thing you could put in a gallery and people would look at it and go, oh, that's, you know, there's a lot going on there.
That's, that was my feeling.
What'd you think?
I liked it.
Yeah, I thought it was good.
Nice piece.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can...
There's something going on right now in the art world with this melted crayons thing.
Really?
Is that just coincidence?
No, it's a big, it's a major thing.
I'm telling you.
Our people are plugged in.
As always.
Yes, noagendaartgenerator.com.
Go ahead and upload your art.
We always choose it right after the show, but it's also great for the No Agenda shop.
The guys there split money with you if they use your art.
We just got such a lovely little community.
Ah, sweet.
Yes.
Well, we do have a few people to thank for show 9, what is it, 956?
9 or 5.6, yes, sir.
Now, in this show, this is going to be a little longer than usual because we included all the people who contributed from the Train Museum event, which was very successful, and I have to give all the credit to its success to Sir Patrick Coble out of Tennessee, Barron.
He's the one who insisted on the train ride and the dates.
Yeah.
Because he wanted to – I don't know for how long.
There's a lot of people that actually mention this in their notes.
They've always – because I've been promising this train museum meetup.
For a couple years.
For about two years, yes, at least.
Maybe longer.
And so I finally did it, and Coble's the one who made it happen.
I want to thank him personally.
And he also contributed in his own way to the event by donating $32 $20 tickets, or $640 worth of tickets to a little train ride that they have there.
It goes out and back along the Sacramento River.
And chugging along in old cars.
And so he bought 32 tickets.
And then he also bought like 20 tickets to the train museum.
And a lot of people got into the museum free.
Yeah.
Because Cole bought them tickets.
And we actually got about 30 people in on that deal.
Nice.
And so I want to thank him for his $830 worth of contributions that went directly to the people that showed up.
Put it right back into the producers.
Put it right back into the producer.
So, thanks, Patrick.
Thank you very much, sir, Patrick Colbert.
And I had a nice write-up with him.
I went up with him on the Zephyr.
He's an interesting fellow.
He's a great guy.
He is a penetration expert.
Oh, so am I. Oh, I'm cyber.
He's the one that actually does computer penetration.
Oh, cyber.
Sorry, sorry.
I misunderstood.
And no meatloafs or anything like you might be.
All right.
Pile jumping now.
And he's so good at it.
He's one of these high-end guys who has to give us lots of indemnification and everything before he's hired to do any of this because he'll actually...
Get to the point where he breaks into a...
What do you call it?
A data center?
A data center.
He'll actually physically break into a data center.
Now, are you allowed to talk about this?
Because, you know, if someone goes and looks him up...
I think he'll see him.
Wait, so he just breaks in like...
And he goes in and...
You know, I bet once you're in...
You can probably get in just by bullshitting your way in.
No, he'll do things like cloning ID cards, and he knows how to do that, and all these very interesting mechanisms.
Remind me to talk about ID card cloning.
Hold on.
So he'll get into it, and he'll do all kinds of different things, but what he does is he finds all the vulnerabilities of an operation, and then he reports back.
He says, everybody's so vulnerable, it's ridiculous.
And one of the things he likes to do, and he does it with his family, and I told him he might want to do a try with us.
Yes, Tina wants in on this deal, too.
Okay.
He'll do spear phishing to see how vulnerable you are to being suckered into clicking a link that is not a good thing to click.
Yeah.
I look forward to that.
We may actually put a club together and have a whole bunch of no agenda lists or see if they can avoid being...
Spot the spear.
Spot the spear.
We'll talk about that later.
But anyway, I want to thank Patrick.
Yeah, thanks Patrick.
And we had a great time on the Zephyr going up and I came back in the car so he had to take a lonely ride back.
Well, there's tons of people on that Zephyr.
Just as an aside, by the way, the starlight or whatever the one is that comes down the coast came by a few minutes ago.
It was very funny.
The Starlights are bigger than the Zephyr.
It's a monster train.
It's got a lot of cars.
And this one had an observation car attached to the end, a private car.
It was being towed back by an old engine in front.
You can see it wasn't a normal engine.
It was some engine.
It was going about five miles an hour.
I guess the thing died, the locomotive.
You know, your train stories just turned me on.
Oh, yeah, that was very fascinating.
Okay, let's start with max power, $600.
Max came in with, he doesn't have really much of a note, but he's going to be knighted today.
And he says, he does have a note.
And he was at the museum.
To the best podcast in the universe, love you guys.
Thanks for the great show.
Please stop with accepting other countries' currency as U.S. dollars.
Have we not learned anything in the last couple of years?
Sell anything but U.S. dollars in your shoe to get droned.
Thanks, guys.
No clips, no karma.
Yeah, we not learned anything.
Good point.
Yeah, it's a very good point.
Thank you.
What does he want, karma?
Does he need karma?
No, he says no clips, no karma.
No clips, no karma.
All right, thank you.
We're obedient servants to that kind of a comment.
Jack Sobot is there, San Jose, California.
$333.33.
Thanks for hosting the Sacramento Meetup today.
Today I learned I'm quite interested in the history of American Rail, which was an unexpected surprise.
Yeah, American Rail.
Who knew?
Yeah, I'm pleased to donate 333 to start my journey toward knighthood is my jingle request.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
We can't, you know, can I just say something?
Because I feel I have to speak up because if I don't say anything, I'm enabling this behavior.
Yeah.
Trains are racist in America because Chinese were forced to build the tracks.
It's racist.
They were only forced to build the tracks from the West Coast.
The East Coast people were Irish.
Well, where do you live?
I live in California.
Yeah, so you're racist.
Okay.
Just letting you know.
Jingle request.
Trains good, planes bad, living the mac and cheese life.
Maxine Waters, my millennials, and in the morning.
All right.
And I'll throw some car main for good measure.
All aboard!
Trains good, planes bad.
Living the mac and cheese life.
Mac and cheese.
My millennials.
Stay woke.
In the morning.
You've got karma.
Alright, now Sarah Bradley's here, Dame Sarah, and she, I'm going to search and see if she has a note, because she's mentioned something on email, so I have to do this real quick.
Bradley, B-R-A-D-L-E-Y. What?
She's been a donor for a long time.
Yeah, I'm just laughing.
Eric Bradley, Harry Potter.
Harry Potter?
Read the Harry Potter note.
New Harry Potter book reveals values and something.
I could read this note.
No, no.
Just get to Dame Sarah Bradley.
All right.
Well, she sent a card, and I don't have a note from her.
But she says she will email her notes.
She may not have done that.
But anyway, $333.
She wants to be...
She says she does have a couple of things.
She wants cheap cheddar melted together.
And, of course, it's her card.
It's a very cute card that has mac and cheese all over it.
This card cracked me up.
I had to share.
Give her a cheap cheddar call-out and some karma.
And some Scott Mackey.
Another one, $333.33.
And I do have a note from him somewhere.
I don't see it.
Of course, why would I expect to find it?
This must be it.
The donation is a birthday present for my son, Mitch Mackey.
I think he's on the list to make him an executive producer.
He has to be executive producer for his birthday on August 26th.
We both need to be de-douched.
All right, here we go.
You've been de-douched.
Yes, Mitch Mackey's on the list.
His cousin needs some F cancer.
His sister needs some good health karma.
Can you give him the scream?
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I should have read this to you earlier.
Those two items.
F cancer and a good health karma.
And then the screaming goat.
Yeah.
Money shot.
And then Maxine Waters.
And no, no, no.
So there's four, which is one too many.
I'm still laughing from the elephant sex rant.
Uh-huh.
I was laughing out loud.
Thanks, John.
And thanks for your good work, Scott.
So I think I got everything.
That's a Shona money shot.
Woo, Jesus!
Woo, Lord!
Look at that!
That's a money shot!
Kenan Conway is a money shot!
Okay, you know what?
... ... ...
Listen, you're in my house.
Drinking the booze.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no. Shame on you. Shame on you.
You've got karma.
Onward.
Sir Fred Hossman put $333 in an envelope with his name on it and no note.
And I don't find a note on email, so Fred, we'll give Fred some karma.
You betcha.
Thanks, Fred.
You've got karma.
And on where we go to, finally, our associate executive producers, beginning with Dame Astrid Klein, who wasn't at the meetup.
She's the Duchess of Japan.
The Duchess of Japan.
270-272, a separate note from Dame.
Did you get a note from her?
I always get notes from her.
Let me see.
Well, did you get a note?
Let me see.
Show note.
A show note.
Let me see.
Astrid.
Here we go.
Well, she sent me...
Hmm, interesting.
Interesting.
I did not.
I got a...
Okay, I got one.
I got it.
I'll tell you what she sent me, because I said, how are you guys doing?
You seem to be really busy.
You know, the very famous architects, her and Sir Mark.
Yes, very much.
And they just finished the open house, a part of Central Embassy at the Park Hyatt in Bangkok.
14 restaurants, bars, cafes, co-working, bookstores, design shop.
This thing is outrageous.
Can we get a discount?
I think we might have an in.
For sure.
For sure.
Alright, well here's her note.
She says, what a great movie Network is.
Oh yeah.
I cannot recall whether you recommend to see this movie or not.
Yes, we do.
Yeah, many times.
Most likely you have, since it so clearly illustrates the points No Agenda is trying to make that M5M is just pandering to the masses.
Go watch it, everybody, so it clearly demonstrates the value of the No Agenda show.
Thank you, John and Adam, Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan, and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.
Yes.
Thank you very much, Dame Astrid.
Highly appreciated.
Very much.
Susan Johnson.
Hold on.
Karma.
Karma.
Are you kidding me?
You've got karma.
Think!
Okay, now we go to...
Okay, this is it.
Sorry about these.
This is going to be slower than usual.
Susan Johnson in Newburgh, Oregon, $270.
She sent a card in.
She becomes Dame Susan of Willamette Valley in birthday call-off for Sir American Carnage.
Yeah.
I'm John and Adam.
My donation today puts me over the top for the Dame-dom.
The donation amount of $2.70 is in honor of my son who hit me in the mouth over a year ago.
He has turned 27 on the 18th, so please include Sir American Carnage on your birthday list.
I would like to be known as Dame Susan of the Willamette Valley.
I'm very excited to join both my sons, both my sons, at the round table.
Thanks for the sanity, she says.
Her son is born on the same day as Christina, 27th of August.
Well, she says he's born on the 18th and turns 27.
Oh, shoot.
I'm sorry.
The jury will disregard that remark.
Reclaiming my time!
Okay.
Sir Dirtbag Jack...
Dirtbag Dave is next.
$260 in California.
Thank you for organizing the meetup.
Train is good, plane is bad.
It closed $260 in old bills.
He said he gave cash.
Oh, cool.
And he gave cash in old bills to my two favorite old guys.
Thank you very much, Dave.
Dirtbag.
All aboard!
Train's good!
I'm looking forward to the next meetup.
Now, I have to give an anecdote.
So, he puts 200 old small head $200 bills and a $50, which is an old $50 bill.
Who's on the $50?
Grant, I think.
He's a small head.
That's Zika.
So I drop these bills off at the bank and the teller looks at the 50 and she just falls in love with this old bill and she decides she's going to buy it for herself.
She collects old bills.
Who knew?
I just found it was interesting.
She was giddy over this bill.
It happens.
Alright, onward.
Um...
Dave Randall Lane in Springfield, Missouri.
JCD has note.
Well, I don't have a note.
I thought I had a note, but I don't.
I don't see it.
It's not here.
Sorry.
I will make up for that in a future show.
I only have one note.
Oh, wait a minute.
I might have it over here.
I don't think so.
I'm just visualizing.
Look at the bottom of the pile.
Well, I got all the lesser notes here.
No, I don't have it.
Okay.
There's a lot of notes that came in, as you can tell.
Sorry, David.
Bama came at 250 from Springfield, Missouri, and I don't know if it was much of a note.
Ralph, I know where it might be, because it's not a note from the meetup.
Ralph Stover in Roseville, California, at 250.
And he also has a note, and I do have it.
ITM, gentlemen, here's the first of four installments towards my knighthood.
Please de-douche me.
Yes, done.
You've been de-douched.
Keep up the great work, and he'd like a job and relationship karma followed by a little girl, yay, which I think you can do.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
You've got karma.
And if I didn't say it, he's from Roseville, California.
Sir Otaku, Baron of Northeast Texas in the Red River.
23456.
ITM, gentlemen, have you ever noticed that the M5M is starting to sound like a couple of little kids in the back seat on a long trip?
President Trump did disavow the alt-right fast enough.
Yes, he did.
No, he didn't.
He did not.
For sure he didn't.
He did not.
Reclaiming my time.
If it wasn't for your show, I probably would have hung myself from the nearest Confederate memorial.
Thanks for helping provide a bit of sanity in this never-ending stream of chaos.
Can I get some JCD mac and cheese karma with a little girl yay?
And it's K5VZ73. You bet.
Seven threes.
Kilo five.
Alpha Charlie Charlie.
Living the mac and cheese life.
Mac and cheese.
By Ayn Rand.
Wow!
You've got karma.
Paul Erskine in Seattle, Washington, 233-37.
And, and, for some reason, I don't know why this is, the mouse fell on the floor.
I don't know how that happened, but it did.
Hey, you guys, I mostly love this show.
I mostly love this show.
Here's my biannual donation to Stay Woke.
I had a bunch of...
And it's $233.337 from Washington.
I had a bunch of witty remarks, but I forgot them all now, so enough said.
Clips!
Clips!
How about an enlarged maligdala, or maligdana, whatever he's got here, in a warning, HPV parody, followed by a thanks, Obama, Side note, while trying to figure out how to spell Meligdana, I still have no idea.
I gave up.
I came across a Wikipedia article on a list of regions in the human brain, and he says, item 321 is white matter.
So I guess everyone has a racist part of their brain.
It's the amygdala.
I had a swollen amygdala.
Maybe my parents didn't know how widespread swollen amygdala is.
While swollen amygdala shrinks for most, that wasn't the case for me.
Maybe they didn't know I would end up a douchebag SJW because of my swollen amygdala.
Maybe if they'd known there's a podcast to help protect me when I was 11 or 12, maybe my parents just didn't know.
Right, Mum?
Dad?
What will you say?
Don't wait.
Log on to your child's podcast app today.
Learn more at youmightdie.org.
Thanks, Obama.
You've got karma.
That is really one of the best pieces ever done.
That is.
It's a Chris Wilson.
John Burns, $202.02 from Salem, Oregon.
He writes in a note on an email.
Thank God for the show.
I'm sitting here watching all my face bag friends lose their crap over recent events and realize it's about time I made another donation.
This show keeps me sane.
Keep up the great work on the best podcasts in the universe.
As one of your older millennial listeners who commutes by bicycle daily, I see a lot of people on bicycles act like complete asshats on the road.
I even yell at people, salmoning, salmoning would be, you know, going like fish up the stream.
Oh, fish.
Hashtag fish.
Hashtag fish.
There is an arrow in the bike lane for a reason.
However, to their defense, I guess it's based on my complaining, there is little or no bicycling education in any state I have lived in.
So this is what we get.
I have an upcoming move to North Chicago in a couple of weeks.
I could use a healthy dose of jobs karma for myself.
Could I get the bicycle song at the end of the show, please?
Oh, the bicycle song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think.
End of the show.
Let me just see if this is it.
Yeah, okay.
For end of show?
Yeah, got it.
Just on the bicycle thing.
Yes, very good point.
Thank you so much.
Coming from a bicycle culture, which is hundreds of years of bicycling culture.
I might, well, hundreds, but over a hundred years of bicycle culture.
When I was growing up in the Netherlands, there were two mandatory classes you had to take.
One was bicycle in traffic.
I think it was called bicycling in traffic, actually.
And swimming.
Because, of course, in the Netherlands there's so much water, you might die!
And you were taught how to behave and how to be a proper bicyclist.
Do they not do that in schools these days?
Nope.
Well, that is wrong.
They didn't do it in my day either.
They didn't do it.
They've never done it.
I'm not as anti-bike as you are, because I understand how it can work, and I understand that it's just education, and that, yeah, the people who are...
Well, hold on.
The people who are...
Go ahead.
Screw it.
Go ahead.
Here's what bothers me.
You don't care what I'm saying.
We all associate it with Holland, what you're talking about.
Yeah.
It's all, look how it works.
It's not the same.
It's not the same.
Ben, it's a hundred years of bicycle culture.
Took a long time for this to work out.
And cars and bikes grew up together.
You're just throwing a bunch of new things onto the street.
And changing the street.
I hit...
There's a right here in downtown Austin.
It's Nueces and I want to say 3rd Street.
And they put this...
Mike Armstrong.
The Mike Armstrong bike path they put in.
And it's even constructed wrong.
Because you go around the corner now to make a left.
And there's this...
You can barely see it.
There's this big bump in the middle of the road.
It's like a curb.
And you hit that like...
I don't know who advised them on this, but it's not being integrated well.
It can definitely work, even in Texas.
But you need to educate kids how to behave in traffic as a bike for themselves and for everyone else who uses the road.
And if we don't do that, then I'm going to talk to the Austin City Council about that.
Well, you can become the head of the steering committee.
I don't think so.
Onward, Taylor Norrish, $202.
By the way, in the Netherlands, they are now removing men's bicycles.
I just did Taylor Norrish.
I'm just saying, men's bicycles are going to be removed because they're dangerous.
What?
Yeah.
So you have a boy's bike has the crossbar and the girl's bike doesn't.
So the authorities are saying that it's dangerous, people hurt themselves, men's bikes have to go.
It's symbolic, but I just wanted to point it.
Where's this?
In the Netherlands.
They're demasculizing the bike?
Most girls don't even like a girl's bike.
Well, in Amsterdam, we call it the grandma bike.
It's very popular, and they are quite easy to ride, and I like them.
Is there a place to put your purse?
Yes, my murse.
Okay, onward.
Sir Tyler Fox, the Baron of the Aviation in Cedar Park, Texas, $200.
In the morning, Defenders of Reality, as always, I thank you for what you do.
The show has been great.
Thank you.
Just throwing my two cents in here.
Adam, you did not look too skinny in the Seed Man show.
I don't let the fat or, um, I mean, corpulent people get to you.
Don't let them get to you.
They just want to feel better about being in bad shape.
Yes.
Also...
A reminder to all, no agenda karma works.
My last karma ask, in a long string of karma successes, landed us the perfect house to rent here in the Austin area.
Now that we're settled, I'll be pushing for another Austin meetup.
Okay.
Well, if you look at the results from this last meetup, I think you should definitely do one.
Lastly, I bend the knee, yet once again requesting karma sweet embrace.
Okay.
I'm awaiting the pre-buy inspection on a 1965 movie.
Oh, I love that aircraft.
Oh, it's one of the best.
I've been in a movie.
They call it the Widowmaker.
They do, because, you know, doctors would get this, and dentists, and, you know, guys.
Oh, yeah, everybody.
Weekend warriors.
Yeah, and then this is the plane they'd buy.
Takes off in 20 feet.
And it goes 180 knots.
I mean, the thing is, it's a rocket.
I don't know about the 65, but it depends on the engine.
But, oh, it's beautiful.
But, yeah, the guys were getting killed.
You've got to have some experience to fly the Mooney.
And I'd love to fly with you, Sir Tyler.
Anyway, he needs an order to escape the hell of commercial airlines while growing my consulting business.
Please give me some karma to help everything go well.
If Adam has any harrowing stories from time in fast single-engine aircraft, he'd love to hear them.
As always, thank you for your courage.
Cheers.
I'll ask one of the...
Pilot podcasters, see if they want to interview me.
I got some stories.
I got some fun stories.
But let's go flying.
He also says he wants to know, should Barron's be referred to as Lord instead of Sir?
The Book of Knowledge says that's the proper form of address.
Oh, really?
Well, I would hate to...
He wants to change his title to Baron of Aviation.
We did that for him, as the previous one's a bit mouthful.
You got it.
And he apologized for the long note, which I appreciate.
Here's some Mooney Karma, man.
You've got karma.
I want to fly that thing.
It's like a jet fighter, almost.
It's a great plane.
Finally, our list is Sir Levin in parts unknown.
I don't know where he's from.
Doesn't say.
200.
Definitely requires some de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
As for reasons of not donating to my favorite podcast, you're Sir Levin, and that's all we got.
All right.
Thank you so much, everybody who was at the train museum, at the meetup.
Everyone who came in with real good support today.
Of course, it was a little bit longer since we had to add all of the meetup donations.
And these are, of course, titles.
Executive producer, associate executive producer, you can use them wherever titles might be appropriate.
And it's really our model, value for value.
And, you know, like Hollywood, we try to give you a little something.
Unlike NPR, we don't have tote bags.
Working on the beanie coins.
And we will have another show on Sunday.
Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah, well, you're cruising around and you're Mooney 20E. Maybe propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Order!
Order!
Shut up, slave!
Shut up, slave!
Just because I wrote it down, I want to talk about the chip, about chipping, people chipping, being chipped.
Two things.
One is, someone suggested to me that the way this is going to happen is it will be inserted at birth.
And we hadn't looked at that angle yet.
And it makes sense, you know...
Well, yeah, because of baby theft.
Yes, exactly.
Track your child.
Make sure your child...
This is the right one.
There's no mix-up in the NICU. Not NICU, but in the recovery room.
Just make sure...
What is it called?
The infirmary.
That's what it's called.
And...
It's like, yeah, we're going to circumcise...
I think so.
I don't know what it's called.
Nursery.
The nursery.
Nursery.
Hey, we circumcise boys, so it's not like that isn't painful and cruel, so we might as well insert a chip.
I learned something.
In this building that we're in, they have done the stupidest...
I've got to find the manufacturer of this elevator bank system.
Stupidest in the world.
Really dumb.
I just have to explain it and I'll get to the shit part.
You have an elevator bank?
Yeah, four elevators.
There's four elevators.
How many actually work?
All of them work, but here's the problem.
The elevator has a very simple interface.
You press the button for up or down, you get in, you press your floor, you're done.
You just wait until ding, you see the light go on and your floor, you get off.
No.
Someone came up with this brilliant idea.
You walk up to a panel.
So you have two elevators on the left, two elevators on the right, numbered 1, 2, 3, 4.
You walk up to a digital panel.
You have to touch your FOB, your RFID identity.
It then goes bleep, and then...
It shows you, you have to make a selection, the top floors, the middle floors, the bottom floors, so it's not like one big panel, no, so that's, now the second action I'm taking is clicking on which cluster, then I click on our floor, you have to actually wait for two seconds because they're all locked, because the fob hasn't processed yet, that it's okay for you to select a floor, so then the lock icon goes away, you click on it, and then you get in and you do nothing.
Which is very odd.
And it isn't until the doors are starting to close.
You also have to remember which elevator, because it'll say, bing, elevator one, or bing, elevator four.
You have to remember.
And see, I just forgot to mention that, because I forget this all the time.
Like, I just want to press the button, elevator comes.
Oh, yeah, what?
Shoot.
So then you go back, you fob it, you click your floor again.
Ah, okay, elevator three, got it.
You get in the elevator, and only then will it go on a little display.
Oh, you're going to go to your floor.
Oh, thank you.
And then you don't do anything.
You go up and it says, you know, level eight, level nine, like in Star Trek or something.
So this is, I cannot believe they've taken something very simple and made it so complicated.
Well, this isn't new.
Ten years ago when the new Hearst, or actually it was before that that they put it in, but the first time I was there in the Hearst building in New York City in Manhattan, they have this exact same system.
And I think it's creepy.
You go through the rigmarole you're talking about, you push the button, and it tells you which elevator to get in.
There's no buttons in this elevator if you want to change your mind, or if you want to go back, or whatever you want to do.
You're stuck in that elevator.
I find it extremely creepy.
It is creepy, and of course, the minute that they put one into manual mode when someone's moving in, the algo completely screws up.
People are waiting for 10 minutes to get on the elevator.
But even more interesting is when we were in New York, Tina and I were staying at the hotel at the airport.
We get in the elevator, we're talking to each other, and then we're like...
Oh, crap.
We're not going anywhere.
Because now we're conditioned.
Now we forgot to push the button.
This is how dumb it is.
I mean, it's really crazy.
But anyway, there's some kind of rule.
We have a nice pool area.
And people were coming in.
There's a million millennials at the pool.
People who don't live here.
So they had to crack down on some stuff.
They only give...
Two keys and two fobs.
And the fob is stuck onto the back of a clicker for the garage.
So these are the people...
I don't know what they were thinking.
You can only have two fob clickers and two keys, and that's it.
You can put someone on the list, and they're downstairs, and then the person who's at the front desk has to walk to the elevator, let them in, either come up and knock on the door, or sometimes if they're on a list, they can get a key.
It's completely ludicrous.
I live here!
Maybe Tina's daughter needs to come by.
Maybe my daughter's going to be here next week, and we need a third system.
And they will not do it.
Security, my friend, security.
Well, it's bull crap, because here's what I did.
For $12.95, I bought an ID reader-writer.
Comes with 50-50 cards.
I couldn't believe how easy it was.
Bloop, bloop, done.
Then I just pressed the fob.
I pressed the record button on the replacement fob.
It records the signals.
Bloop, bloop, done.
And I just went to the key guys and gave me five keys.
Done.
I can print these things.
That's what Patrick Coble does to get busted.
Exactly.
A $12 item and it comes with all the cards.
So imagine.
So how secure is this then?
It's not.
It's completely insecure.
It's theater.
Yes.
Imagine you have an RFID chip in your hand.
All I have to do is brush against you.
I got your ID. I can clone it.
Now, of course, you can go into, oh, yes, it will have all kinds of encryption and keys and all that.
Fine.
Well, that's why I say when they start chipping everybody, I recommend the big business to get into is Faraday gloves.
There you go.
I was very surprised by this.
In fact, I was watching the last Bond movie, Spectre, a part of it.
Did I see this movie?
I didn't realize I had.
But at the beginning, In the movie, they shoot up Bond with some nano devices that go through his whole system and let them be able to track him.
Not like just a tracking little device.
It's a whole body tracker.
And I was thinking it would have been a cool plot twist to have him go to a tailor and get a suit made with Faraday material.
That you could wear, because it's very thin, and you could wear the suit, and now they can't track you anymore, and that would have been better than the way they did it.
Well, you should go to Hollywood and bitch out.
Oh, actually, they do that in Britain.
I go to Hollywood and bitch.
Hey, I know the guy who was part of the Bond production family.
I can tell him about it.
Hey, you know, we're in the middle of renegotiating NAFTA. This is not reported by your M5M. Oh, why would it be reported?
And there's a very specific process.
It's over a three-week period, and they get five hours here, and there must be some kind of name for this process, this negotiation process.
But there was a little speech that I caught.
It was three representatives from Scandinavia, Mexico, and the United States.
And Canada really likes NAFTA. It's pretty good, although she pointed out that we do have a little trade surplus of $7 or $8 billion.
It's all groovy, and now that we're renegotiating, she has some points that she wants to put into the new, new NAFTA agreement.
Trade is about people.
It's about creating the best possible conditions for jobs.
Hold on a second.
You've got to get the clip of the woman who was with PBS, NPR, whatever her name was.
She's still floating around.
She sounds exactly like her.
The woman who says, oh, advertising, you know, blah, blah, blah.
She goes on about that.
Oh, that's not it.
That's not it.
We always go through this, don't we?
No, just recently.
No, no, no.
This one has always been...
Oh, this one is hard to find yet.
This particular clip.
It's the NPR advertising.
Yeah, but that's NPR. That's what I always think, but it is an NPR... Maybe it's a sponsorship...
Yeah, that would be it.
No, that's not it.
If I do advertising, no, that's not it.
Call it what you want, maybe?
Damn.
Yes.
I got it.
Here we go.
Okay.
Okay, moving on to money.
How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
And what about foundation grants?
Two different stories.
Underwriting is down.
It's down for everybody.
I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
Trade is about people.
It's about creating the best part.
She sounds like the first person.
Oh, okay.
I'm sorry.
I didn't realize that.
Okay, move it on to money.
Trade is about people.
Now cut to her.
I already cut to her.
You didn't even hear it.
That's how good it is.
Listen, I'll do it again.
Okay, move it on to money.
Trade is about people.
It's about creating the best.
You nailed it.
I'm glad we got that out of your system.
Yeah, sorry.
Trade is about people.
It's about creating the best possible conditions for jobs, for growth, and for prosperity.
And that's why we are very committed to working hard in the coming weeks and months to modernize NAFTA. Canada's objectives are clear.
We want to protect NAFTA's record as an engine of job creation and economic growth.
We will work to modernize NAFTA to bring it up to date.
We're going to take advantage of this opportunity to cut red tape for businesses and to harmonize regulations.
We're going to work hard with our partners to make NAFTA more progressive, particularly with regard to labor, the environment, gender, and indigenous rights.
What?
What's that got to do with anything?
What does that have to do with a trade agreement?
It's got to be more progressive towards gender?
Come on.
Is this how they're starting the negotiation?
Yes.
I have to say, she's the Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister, Chrystia Freeland.
Very impressive, though.
She does the whole thing in Spanish and then in French right after that.
She's got some chops.
I just thought that was interesting.
NAFTA is being renegotiated and we're talking about progressive measures, progressive genderism stuff.
I can't wait to read it.
I'm very excited about that.
I'm sure the Mexicans will be thrilled.
The two guys next to her did not look thrilled.
Snowed under as well.
Just didn't hit the radar.
And you'd almost think, wow, man, that's pretty much perfectly coordinated.
Is this Diddy?
Yeah, Kim Jong-un certainly stepping back from the brink after a week of bellicose rhetoric that we have heard.
Interesting that he is holding off on those plans that he was threatening to strike Guam with those four intermediate-range missiles with nuclear warheads.
Guam, of course, being a US territory with military bases.
And Kim Jong-un certainly getting America's attention.
But today, through state-based media, KCNA certainly seems to be dialing it back, perhaps heeding the warnings of the President.
More recently, the Defence Secretary, Jim Mattis, as you say, he said if...
If North Korea was to strike US territory, it would be game on.
But Kim Jong-un saying he's going to hold off to wait and see what the foolish and stupid Yankees do, quote unquote.
Obviously making reference to those joint military exercises between the United States and South Korea due to be held as of next week, starting on Monday, which, John, as we know, always antagonise the North Korean regime.
Great reporting, although, of course, you missed everything.
The quote, by the way, I think was misquoted because I don't think he said Yankees.
I think he said Americans.
I'm not sure about that.
Why did he use the word Yankees?
Because that's what he does in Team America in the movie.
Oh, I see him.
He's like, Yankees!
What's really happening is China made a call and said, hey, Broseph, simmer the F down because Trump is launching a trade infringement investigation.
We're all over China right now.
And this is Banyan, I might point out.
Banyan is all about getting the Chiners.
There was an article that came out.
I don't know if I saved this.
He called some left-wing journalist on the record and just started talking.
He never talks to the press.
Shoot, it's in the show notes.
I'll find it for you.
And then this is what he was saying.
This is all about if we don't get these Chinese now, he said, if we don't get them right now, been five or ten years at max, then they'll just be the kings of the world.
I'm paraphrasing.
And so China got a little spooked.
They did not want U.S. troops on their border with North Korea.
And they told him to pull back, proving, proving that this is about something completely different than this bullcrap, he's going to nuke us story.
That would be my guess, too.
Good catch.
Mm-hmm.
And then, one more while I'm on a roll, there's just kind of a little whirl around the world wheel of news.
We've been talking about the NGOs who were picking up refugees Bringing them into the system, into the refugee system of the United States of Europe.
And now Libya.
They're so close to Libya, this is happening.
They've saved tens of thousands of migrants from drowning in the Mediterranean.
But now the rescue ships of three humanitarian organizations are heading back to port.
Médecins Sans Frontières saved the children and Germany's CI all announcing that they are suspending rescue operations because, they say, they feel threatened by Libya's Coast Guard.
That's the sound of shots being fired from a Libyan Coast Guard vessel, according to the NGO that shot this footage.
The Libyan Coast Guard has repeatedly clashed with charity vessels and defends such actions by saying they are necessary to establish control over rescue missions.
But the aid groups say their crews can no longer work safely.
We leave a deadly gap in the Mediterranean, CI's founder Michael Bush Hoyer warned on Facebook.
The charities are also under pressure from the Italian government, which accuses some NGOs of facilitating people smuggling.
Immigration is dominating Italy's political agenda ahead of elections next year.
And public opinion is increasingly hostile to migrants in a country that has received more than 600,000 in the past four years.
Italy is working with Libya to increase its role in intercepting departing migrants and even welcomed MSF's pause in rescue operations.
But aid groups and some Italian politicians warn that migrants caught by the Libyan Coast Guard are taken back to inhumane conditions in detention centres.
The European Union's border agency Frontex said on Monday that the number of African migrants arriving in Italy from Libya has dropped by more than half in July from June.
That was down to bad weather, clashes in Libya, but also an increased presence of the Libyan Coast Guard deterring people smugglers.
Charities have been responsible for a third of rescue operations at sea since the start of this year, whilst more than 13,000 migrants have died trying to make the crossing.
Now, I believe this to be propaganda.
I'm not so sure this is really happening, because I do not understand why the Libyan Coast Guard would be doing this.
Why?
Give me one good reason why.
Why are they shooting at the...
All we have is something from the NGOs, some cell phone video saying, look, they're shooting at us.
I believe this is more oriented towards creating consensus that we need to keep this channel open to bring these refugees slash migrants in.
I don't understand why otherwise the Libyan...
And if the Libyan Coast Guard is shooting at people, why wouldn't this be a UN issue?
Why isn't this being taken up to the highest order?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I didn't cover this at all.
I'm going to have to start looking into this now, apparently.
I know that we talked about before that there's a big backlash against the NGOs.
But it doesn't make a lot of sense that they would be shooting at these guys, grabbing people off their coast, which is a nuisance there in Libya.
Yeah.
Good riddance to you, they'd probably say, go for it.
I mean, I would think if there's anything, there'd be some anti-NGO boats off the coast of Italy.
Yeah, well, they're so close.
That makes more sense.
Yeah, well, you know, the way these NGOs function, this is part of the process.
They do get reallocation fees.
It's a business.
It is a business.
And they're in the business.
And, you know, if you look at the Kalergi plan, you know, there may be more behind it.
You know, it's like we really need to bring these people in.
Although, as I read European press a lot, this headline from the Netherlands...
That they now have huge programs to train migrants and refugees, but they're really talking about migrants in the Netherlands, to do jobs because none of them have a job.
I thought the whole idea was we're getting gray, so let people in and we can put them to work, but everyone's so frustrated because they're not working.
Because they get a bunch of welfare.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, so there's more and more initiatives to help refugees and migrants get work.
There's this one last thing I wanted to read about migrants.
This was a study, and a couple of people sent this to me.
Then, of course, it also shows up in the Daily Mail and the Sun and all that, but there's a real study behind it.
Researchers from the University of Bonn in Deutschland said humans tend to be generally kinder to friends and family than strangers when oxytocin has been enhanced.
It's the oxytocin story.
It's fantastic.
So they actually did a test to see what would happen if you jack up people with oxytocin, because that's already in the body naturally, I believe.
You see, you jack them up with some more.
They become kinder to strangers.
This seems like a perfect punishment.
You were a racist.
You said some bad things.
Take this pill.
Yeah, we actually need to do a little more work on this story because this story cropped up and it's floating around the net and I saw it on and off, this oxytocin story.
It was being floated, but I couldn't put my finger on why it was being floated.
Well, it could just be pharmaceutical promotion and I have yet another example of Maybe just a little bit of evidence that this Narcan story that we have here in the States about the Narcan parties, that it's bullcrap.
It really is bullcrap, and it seems to be pure promotion for this drug, for this anti-drug drug, the counter-drug.
That's what we call it.
I was looking at the Narcan chart, the company that makes it, and it has doubled.
Yeah.
But it was pretty obvious to me before the Narcan party or any of that stuff came up, there was a huge, if you look at the volumes, there was a huge pile of, a lot of heavy, heavy buying, about a week or two before that bullcrap story showed up.
And I get the sense that that was people buying in on some sort of a scheme, knowing that this was going to happen, and then kind of Now, if you look at the volume or the selling versus buying, the selling is high.
In other words, people are getting out.
They're dribbling it out.
You can't just dump it because it'll kill the stock.
So you've got to get out slowly.
And I see that they're sustaining the price and slowly getting rid of their shares, whoever they are.
Oh, yeah.
Well, they will do this.
They are the smart money.
That's who they are.
Yeah, they will do this until the Gantt chart shows that it's time for another round of PR, and then they'll buy back in.
So it's scalping.
It starts low, run it up, sell, wait till it go down again.
That's what they're doing.
Now, we have several junkies who are producers of the No Agenda show.
And by the way, I say junkies because that's how they refer to themselves.
It reminds them.
It keeps them sharp and awake.
So junkies.
You're probably like an alcoholic.
You're always an alcoholic and you're always a junkie.
And they're saying this is absolutely not true.
There is no junkie in the world who would not see this as a party at all, at all.
And remember, this could also be a promotion for the remake of Flatliners.
It could be either way.
Maybe it's a twofer.
I don't know.
Maybe they got in and said, let's do this thing together.
Max it out.
This is from a podcast, the Integrity Restored podcast.
Ex-firefighter DJ Huneman talks about his experience with Narcan.
You know, I used to be a firefighter.
Sorry?
I was going to say, sure it's not Wainimi?
Might be.
You know, I used to be a firefighter, and it was really sad because we would get all these 911 phone calls for heroin overdoses.
And, you know, it was really sad.
A 24-hour shift, usually I would have at least one or two.
And we'd show up, you know, if they were lucky enough.
The person looked like they're dead.
There might be a drug addict there, you know, pumping on their chest.
We'll take that person off.
We'll do real CPR. I'll give them a drug when I start an IV. It's called Narcan.
And that blocks the heroin, right?
Because the heroin goes up and it affects the brain and it knocks out the respiratory drive.
And immediately when I give them this drug Narcan, they wake up.
The respiratory drive kicks back on.
Usually they vomit as a side effect of that medication.
And they look around and they see a whole room filled with firefighters, paramedics, and cops.
And what do you think they do?
Do you think they just look around and say, oh my gosh, you saved my life.
Thank you so much.
I don't know.
What do they say?
No, these people are so angry.
I mean, they're so upset because the drug that I gave them, the Narcan, it takes away their high.
And they don't understand the circumstances that they're in.
Oftentimes, these people are throwing punches.
We have to...
Had the cops there to subdue him.
I remember one time got somebody on the cot, lifting him up into the ambulance, and they tried to run off and flip the cot over.
I remember one time got to the emergency room and, you know, handed him the paperwork over to the doctor, and the patient got up, ran out of the parking lot, ran into the woods, and ran away.
And they do this even after the fact that I tell them that that drug that I gave them, it only lasts for about 20 minutes.
It metabolizes fast in the body.
So after 20 minutes, that heroin might kick back on, your respiratory drive could kick back off, and you could die wherever you are.
You might die!
So I'm thinking this Narcan parties is really, really sketchy as something that is happening.
It wouldn't surprise me.
By the way, you're getting the you can die thing pretty close.
You might die.
Yeah, well, not so much that time, but the last two times.
It's hard for me to do.
Let me see.
You might die.
Close.
Keep working.
So I have, I witnessed a couple of incidents on the televisions.
Oh no, the telescreens.
Mooch was on the Colbert show.
I missed it.
I'm glad you got it.
Yes, the Mooch.
So I have a few clips because there's one, there's one clip that most of it was just bad.
Mooch isn't funny.
As you'll hear in the first clip.
How was Colbert in the audience?
Were they anticipating to be hilarious?
The audience booed him.
When he walked out?
Yeah.
Colbert was a dick.
Okay.
He relaxed a little bit during the middle when he was actually getting good information, but generally speaking, he was an a-hole.
And it was an uncomfortable interview to watch because of Colbert.
He was unsympathetic.
I mean, he seriously hates Trump, which will bring me to the Kimmel clip, which I don't have the...
I'm not going to play the whole thing, but I have a couple of clips from Kimmel, who has decided, along with everybody else, that since Colbert is killing everybody in the numbers, they're all going to be Trump haters now.
And Fallon always opens with three Trump jokes now.
Yes.
And I've switched to watching Fallon, if we watch anything.
I watch him.
Yeah, Fallon is the best of the bunch right now.
Just give me some dumb celebrities who are doing dumb games, like, you know, smoke my weed, like, eh, okay, fine.
I need to relax, too.
Yeah, that's what the idea is.
So let's start with Mooch opens to booze.
I'll pretend those are Mooches and not booze, Steve.
We'll find out later.
Now, thanks for being here.
It's great to be here.
Is it?
I'm like Aria Stock.
I took a list of all your comedy writers.
It's my kill list.
They're all in the back.
I wrote them all down.
So you're comedically threatening to kill people who work for me?
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Just curious.
I'm not allowed to joke anymore.
anymore.
I've learned that.
Listen, I just want to start by saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't get to stop my show.
I stop my show.
No.
No.
Here's the thing, I want you to know, just for the record, this is on the record, this is being recorded right now.
Thank you.
That's a microphone you're wearing right now, so, okay.
I said no gotcha questions, I promise you no gotcha questions, but I'm going to leave with one.
Go ahead.
Nazis, good or bad?
Super bad.
Super bad.
Why do you think the President of the United States, who you called, quote, the most media-savvy person of our times, would shank a softball like that so hard when he should have just come out there and condemned the people who were there to start violence?
Well, I think there's a couple issues there.
He said the all sides thing.
I said yes.
Many sides.
Many sides.
He should have been way harsher on that.
I said that.
Harsher on that?
How?
Well, he should have condemned white supremacism and neo-Nazis.
Why do you think he didn't do that?
Who stopped him from doing that?
Well, I think at the end of the day, it's the president himself, and so I'm not going to blame or point fingers at anybody, but I think he knows that.
Why not the president?
The president, why not blame or point fingers at the president?
He's responsible.
You were asking about someone else in the administration, but I think, you know, listen.
Isn't the new girl Heather, isn't she now the communications director?
No, the communications director is this woman named, her last name is Hope.
Yeah, Henry Hope.
Henry Hope.
Heather Hope.
I think that's her name.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hope is a brunette that's tall, and she's been with Trump forever, and she's a model.
She's 28.
Yeah, she's young.
Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.
No, Heather, you're thinking of Heather.
You said Heather when you referred to Heather, and it's not Heather.
I don't think it's Heather.
Hope Hicks, Hope Hicks.
No, Hope Hicks, that's it.
Hope Hicks.
Heather is the girl at the state department.
So is she running...
Wait a minute, let's get...
Well, my question is, if she's running communications right now, great job!
Hope Hicks?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know about that.
But the point is, is that...
Play this little thing.
Even though this deconstruction mini-clip is not working well, because I listen to it, it's not what I want.
But this is the way this whole interview goes.
And before you play it, this is where, and I clip this down so it only has the pertinent parts.
Colbert says to Mooch, he says, so whose fault was it that Trump...
Who said these things?
Who told him to do this?
And Mooch clearly says Trump made the decision himself.
And then Colbert says, well, why don't you blame Trump?
He's not listening.
He's not listening because he just did blame Trump.
Play a little bit here.
Who stopped him from doing that?
Well, I think at the end of the day, it's the president himself.
I don't want to blame or point fingers to the president.
He says, why don't you blame or point fingers at the president when he just did.
This is how we started the show today.
People are no longer listening.
It's like, la la la la la la.
Well, and it's really bad if you're an interviewer.
It's supposed to be part of the gig.
And so this went on throughout most of this interview.
There was a bunch of this nonless.
Colbert's got his mind made up about stuff, and he's just going to plow through it whether anybody likes it or not.
You know why?
He had to virtue signal throughout the whole thing.
That's why it's uncomfortable, because he's thinking the entire time.
I know how this works now.
Colbert is thinking the whole time, I've got to make sure that I don't mess up, I don't slip up, I can't say anything, I've got to...
Catch him on everything.
Can't let anything slip by.
I bet the guy didn't sleep the night before.
You probably...
Now that you mention it, because we both know how this works, he's in a situation with an audience that hates Trump and hates everybody associated with Trump.
They boo some guy for coming out.
Rudely, I might add.
Boo some guy for coming out to try to just do some exchange.
By the way, after he left, I didn't clip this, he insulted the guy.
Nice.
Mooch.
So that's another.
But he did get one interesting piece of information out of Mooch.
And this one, unfortunately, I have it misspelled.
It's M-E-E-O-C-H. And this is about halfway through.
This thing went 20 minutes.
And this is the only thing that was good.
And...
This is Reince Priebus.
What is going on?
Were you brought in just to get rid of him and Sean Spicer?
I don't want to say it that way.
Was it part of your job?
I would say...
Would you say it?
Say it like the mooch.
Say it like the mooch.
Well, there was no other...
Give me some mooch.
Give me some mooch here.
So the mooch with Long Island would say there was no love lost there.
Obviously, look at the picture.
There's no love lost there.
And so that was caught by a Wall Street Journal photographer before the president did it, which was a great interview with the Wall Street Journal.
The weird thing about my relationship with Reince is we were actually pretty good friends when I was a political donor writing checks to the RNC. But once I became part of the administration or was about to enter the administration, for whatever reason, it was a little more adversarial.
You thought he was one of the leakers?
I did.
Okay.
He's gone, right?
Who's leaking now?
Is it Steve Bannon?
Well, I've said that.
Say it now.
Say it to these people.
Listen, I've been pretty open about that.
Is Steve Bannon a leaker?
Okay, but I said he was.
And I obviously got caught on tape saying he was, so I have no problem saying that.
Okay.
Is he going to be gone in a week?
That's up to the president.
What do you think?
What does the mooch think?
Well, if it was up to me, he would be gone.
Okay.
But it's not up to me.
You said that he's trying to suck his own c**k.
Okay?
Anyway.
So, Banyan is the leaker.
Banyan's a leaker.
If Banyan's the leaker, then he has to go.
Now, the way...
Yeah.
And I think he is going to go the way...
Put that earlier Trump clip together.
Banyan's next, and then there's going to be...
Gorka's going to somehow get...
Oh, Gorka.
Gorka.
He's going to say something, and it's just...
Racist.
Nazi.
Racist.
Nazi.
Something like that.
By the way...
He's going to be done.
Update, John.
13 dead.
So Mooch finished doing...
Mooch was, like, trying to charm...
Colbert and the audience the entire time.
Very stable.
And he actually ended up charmed.
He never charmed Colbert because Colbert insulted him later.
But he charmed the audience and he actually got a round of applause at the end instead of just being constantly booed.
So let's play this.
Moach.
David Duke was at this rally in Charlottesville.
He said that they want to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump.
That is why they, the Klan, voted for Donald Trump.
So, for me...
You have to understand, most people in this audience and perhaps your family and definitely my family has experienced some level of discrimination and so I find it disgusting and reprehensible and I will renounce it every living day of my life.
Do you feel burned by your experience at the White House?
No, no, no.
You're extremely loyal to the president.
Even to this point, like, you know, we're shown the door, as it were.
Do you feel burned or backstabbed?
Not at all.
Really?
Well, let me put it this way.
When you take a job like that, Stephen, you know that your expiration date is coming.
I didn't think I was going to last too long, but I thought I'd last longer than, like, a carton of milk.
I just didn't mess up.
You were like a bag of raw shrimp.
You bought your eggs and you were cooking them the day I got fired.
It was totally fine, right?
My point is that you take that job recognizing that you're serving at the behest and the duty of the President of the United States, and if he doesn't want you there anymore, then you've got to respectfully leave, and you've got to leave with honor.
I've made a lot of mistakes.
I've tried to own up to those mistakes.
But let me tell you something, okay?
You know this, okay?
You can just feel it from me.
I'm an honest person.
Wait a second.
Don't use me as a character witness for you.
I don't know.
I won't use you.
I met you like five minutes ago.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, the mooch.
I'll sign a loan for him.
What are you talking about?
Hey, I'm always good on loans.
I'm like the Lannisters that way.
I'm already historic with the comedy writers.
I'm like the Lannisters the other way.
The mooch always pays his debt.
I try to be...
People that know me know that I'm a straight-up person.
What would you do differently if you could go back?
I've really thought about that, and I would say absolutely nothing.
And I'm going to tell you why.
Because what you don't want to do is you don't want to morph yourself or change yourself.
You just want to be yourself.
And if the good Lord puts you in a direction or a stream where it's going the right way, great things will happen.
And if it doesn't happen, I'm totally okay with it.
I'm totally cool with it.
I mean, this guy's been hitting me for three straight weeks, and I'm sitting here, right?
So it's fine, okay?
At the end of the day, you've got to accept what your fate is, and you've got to do it without any bitterness, and you've got to stay humble.
Well, thank you for being here.
It's a great honor to be here.
Would you recommend to other ex-members of the Trump administration to come on the show?
Was this a nice enough experience for you?
I think it's been great.
I would recommend to the president.
Alright, so a couple things I noticed.
One, this is all about Mooch.
This is all about him.
He's not there representing anybody but himself.
He did a great job.
You heard it there.
A great job of putting himself back on the cultural map as an okay guy.
We can have fun with the Mooch.
He can make fun of himself.
Good job.
Good job.
I thought he did a good job of selling himself because he's a sales guy.
I got a kick out of the one...
Really a faux pas that Colbert made from a comedian's perspective, I believe.
Where Mooch actually had a good line when he says, I thought I'd be there longer than a carton of milk.
Great line.
And then he's getting a laugh, and Colbert tries to slip a topper in.
Yeah, to pile it up.
But unfortunately, the laugh was too loud to hear the topper, but you could hear it in there.
He says, you mean like a bag of shrimp?
It was a totally weak topper.
And it wasn't funny.
And it was like trying to copy the other guy's joke.
And he's lucky it didn't get heard.
But it was in there.
And I thought it was a piss poor interview job, to be honest about it.
Overall, he was combative.
He was mean.
You know, the guy's not a happy guy.
He's a mean person, this Colbert.
Yes, he is.
Well, he's not sleeping.
I'm telling you, he's not sleeping.
He's found his footing, though.
He's kicking everybody's butt.
13 dead, at least.
50 wounded in Spain.
Okay.
Here's what I would recommend our president do.
I think he should come out and talk about terrorism, how horrible it is, so that everybody can lose their shit again because he's not talking about racism.
And that would be the perfect distraction.
It would work.
Yeah, that's what I would...
And who says that this isn't a distraction by itself?
It's a sad one.
Man, Barcelona.
This is a tourist area in Barcelona.
This is really pretty sad.
Pretty sad.
Great town.
Great.
Great little town, that Bartholomew.
It is.
We need to finish up our donation, John.
We are running late.
Tell the affiliates.
I'm going to show my school by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
Just one note to the person asking, how does Colbert have ratings?
He's not funny.
You're missing the point.
It's about the hate.
It's the hate.
It's a unification.
A unification of hate.
And it always works.
Always.
His monologue is just dripping with hate.
And he packs him in because he's getting the entire audience and the other guys are freaked out.
And so I do have a clip from Kimmel.
Although I could...
Put it off, but I think we should play it.
We'll play it now, yeah.
Kimmel decides that he's going to compete with Colbert, and so he's going all in with a very strange monologue that sounded a lot more like Keith Olbermann.
In fact, I didn't put that part in, but I'm going to take an Olbermann rant and put it side by side with Kimmel's, and you're going to see it's the same thing.
It's exactly identical.
It's not funny.
It's just a mean-spirited rant.
But let's thank a few people for this producing show, 956.
Haley Hunzinger in Tigard, Oregon, $178.18, and got a birthday donation for her Sir American Carnage, referenced Friday's show.
We do.
Sir Josh Dale in Monte Rio, California, we have a belated birthday for him.
Yep, got it.
He did send a note in and he wants a...
I think he wanted a dedouching.
You've been dedouched.
A lot of people wanted dedouches that gave us money at the meetup.
Sir Kevin Dills, Baron of Mecklenburg County in Charlotte, North Carolina, 12864.
He's been listening to the show for three years and he's shocked.
At JohnWW2 at the No Agenda Social Network.
That's his handle there.
He has 120 bucks.
This is a douchebag call-out for Freeman Clark Barr Robinson.
Douchebag!
It's on the big island, and also John needs some...
Jobs karma?
Jobs karma, we'll put it at the end.
Sir, West Sacramento Brewers.
$111.11, another dedouching.
Let's open up a brewery there.
Let's open up a brewery in Sacramento.
We need some karma for that.
We'll put that at the end.
Sir, dude named Matt, $111.
Sir, James, I'm sorry, Will James Robinson, Das Palos, California, came up from there for the meetup, $101.
These are all people at the meetup.
Now I get the green on the spreadsheet, duh.
The green on the spreadsheet is for the meetup.
It's a lot of green.
A lot of green.
Stephan Kunath, $100.
Thank you for making my week list insane.
Dame17, Cheryl Scar in Sacramento, California, has a happy birthday call out to Carl Schweikert, August 15th.
And she did send a long-winded...
That's not on the list, I'll put it.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Scar?
Schweikert?
Hmm?
It's a happy birthday to Carl Schweikert.
It's from Dame17.
It should be on the list.
No, it's not on the list.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, it's underbelated.
I'm sorry.
Yes.
And Scar, that's how you pronounce it?
Scar?
S-K-A-R-E. I think it's pronounced Scar.
Not Scare.
No, why would you?
Nobody would want to be called Scare.
I would.
And it's the Scare.
Anyway, she wrote it along in a very kind note.
Best podcast in the universe.
And then she has a neighbor, Carl, who hit me in the mouth years ago.
It's just another reason to love my neighbor the best I know how.
So she's sweet.
John Oman in Sonoma, California, came up for the meetup, $100.
Anonymous, $100.
Robert Stout in Bakersfield, California.
He came up from Bakersfield for the meetup, and I think he took the train.
Wow.
People actually live in Bakersfield.
Yes, they do.
Damn.
And just think of his high-speed rail.
There's a go-kart there.
Go-kart track.
Robert Reif, $100.
He needs an MBA. Karma will get that in the end, but he needs a de-douching.
He wants to do that.
You've been de-douched.
I think it's pretty much most of the meet-up people.
Barron Sir Fudge Fountain in Ann Arbor, Michigan, $88.88.
Andy Kluber in Terre Haute, Indiana.
808 boob.
Sir Kevin McLaughlin, 7373.
Andy Kluber becomes a knight today.
He says, marching to knighthood and sanity.
No note from him?
No note there is.
Sir Kevin McLaughlin, 7373.
That is call number.
I don't see it.
Nope.
Nope.
No call.
Sir Paul from Twickenham in Middlesex, UK. 6666.
Gene Morfis, 5555.
Stephen Smith, 5555.
Michael Sabres, 55.
Double nickels on the dime, 5510.
Gabriel Olinger in Manchester, New Hampshire, 5510.
Sir Kevin Payne in the ass in Richmond, Virginia.
Our buddy there, 5432.
Eric Mackey in Lawrenceville, Georgia.
If $50, even in the rest of these are $50 donors, name a location if there's a location available.
Trevor Hoagland in Portland, Oregon.
Sir Derby Dyke in Tucson, Arizona.
Thanks for the deconstruction, she says.
Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Maryland.
Dulette Zanguzin, I think.
In Bellevue, Washington.
Joel DeRuin.
Parts Unknown.
Angela Castaneda.
Sammy Azar.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
That's Dame Angela, and she sent me a note this morning.
Please let John know that it was an excellent newsletter.
Most concise explanation of the current situation out there.
Well done!
And thank you, Dame Angela.
Sir Angela.
Sir Angela.
Sir.
Somebody wrote a note saying, I don't know why you use David's sexist.
Everyone should be a sir.
No, you're kidding me.
Yes, yes.
What a microaggression.
That's what I thought.
John Haller in Missoula, Montana, 50.
Brian Matthews in Balberg in Ireland.
By the way, the newsletter included the Democrat strategy, which needs explaining more and more and more because we keep forgetting about it, but it includes making a fool out of Trump for as long as you can.
Nicholas, very good newsletter.
She's right.
Brian Matthews in Balbergen.
Nicholas Johnson in Floyd's Knobs, Indiana.
Indiana's got the great town name.
Floyd's Knobs.
I like that.
Floyd's Knobs.
This is the same state that gives you gnaw bone.
Sheila Damodaran.
Damodaran.
Damodaran.
Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
Sir Chris.
Sure, Chris.
Oh, 50 bucks every show, this guy.
Yep.
Thank you, Sir Chris.
Mark Aldrich, 50.
John Camp, Antlers, Oklahoma.
Mika Miller, Bethel, Pennsylvania.
Bruce Schwalm.
Schwalm.
He's got it wrong here.
It's S-A-W-L-M in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
And last but not least, Sir Jerry Wingenroth down there in Sagas, California.
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We want to thank all these folks for helping produce and producing.
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There's so much material.
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Yes, I want to thank him too, because he sent me a bottle also.
It's very funny.
It's very funny.
It's, you know, put it in the guest bathroom and it's like, you know, Putin.
Very nice.
We appreciate that.
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Well, none of the dames so far have demanded we call them sir.
Here's my blade.
Very sexist, by the way.
Phallic symbol.
Where is it?
There it is.
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Dvorak.org slash NA. I just had a...
I do have a couple fun media clips.
Let's do your Kimmel thing.
You want to do the Kimmel thing?
Yeah, let's get the Kimmel thing out of the way.
I knew from the beginning, this is the intro.
When he started, he came out for his monologue, and we were subjected to this.
I want to apologize.
We had so much fun stuff planned for you tonight.
We worked on it all day.
We had a bachelor in paradise, kids going back to school.
We're going to talk about it.
There's a horrible new pair of Uggs we're going to discuss.
I even thought, hey, maybe we won't talk about Donald Trump much tonight.
And then he opened his mouth and all manner of stupid came out.
And I'm not joking when I say I would feel more comfortable if Cersei Lannister was running this country at this point.
This press conference today, I don't know if you saw this.
I know a lot of you were here on vacation.
It started, it was supposed to be a press conference about infrastructure and it ended with our president making an angry and passionate defense of white supremacists.
It was like if your book club meeting turned into a cockfight.
It really was remarkable.
I don't know who decided it would be a good idea to send him out there to talk to reporters today, but whoever did obviously misread his state of mind and the mood in this country right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, not really funny.
I didn't even understand the first joke, what the punchline was.
I don't know what the first joke was, but let's...
And he just gets worse.
And then, by the way, and I left out, he goes on.
This was about almost 15 minutes of this complaining, and...
It ended with a long Obermann-like rant that was just...
In fact, it was so similar.
He's reading it off the prompter.
It sounds like he's out-living.
I will probably come back to that when I can do a side-by-side with an Obermann.
A specific Obermann material that I think...
I would almost be convinced this was stolen from, to be honest about.
But let's play the rest of this little beginning of the whole thing.
I feel like I can say this with reasonable certainty.
The president is completely unhinged.
The wheels are off the wagon and hurtling towards the moon right now.
I have some clips to show you.
And before I do, I want to say, clips are one thing.
You know, they're edited down.
We choose them for content.
But if you get a chance, go online and watch the whole press conference from beginning to end.
It's astonishing.
The only thing I can compare it to is, remember when Mike Tyson bit Evander Holyfield's ear off?
And then he bit his other ear off?
This was the presidential equivalent of that.
Trump wasn't even scheduled to take questions today.
He was supposed to give a brief update on an executive order he signed to boost infrastructure, but reporters wanted to ask about his weak response to what happened in Charlottesville, and things went infrastructure nuts from there.
If the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice.
But unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I'd like to know the facts.
That's right.
Very careful about that.
Like the fact that Ted Cruz's father killed JFK and Obama was born in Kenya.
He's a stickler for the facts.
Okay, so when they got to his statement about putting the blame for the murder and the hate crimes in Charlottesville on many sides, not just the Nazis and Klan members, a statement he tried to soften yesterday by specifically denouncing those groups.
Not only did he go back to his original statement, he doubled down and actually defended their actions.
When you say the alt-right, define alt-right to me.
You define it.
Go ahead.
Define it for me.
Come on, let's go.
Senator McCain defined them as the same groups.
Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt-right?
You know, I know what's going on here.
He's trying to do the Jon Stewart bit, which Colbert can do because he was the anti-Jon Stewart.
Well, unfortunately, I have these two clips, and if you got to hear all of it, you would have heard the John Oliver formula.
Yes.
I mean, I don't know how you picked it up with just these two clips, but in fact, he was doing the John Stewart slash John Oliver formula to a T later in this thing, and then he switches gears and goes into an Obermann Which is different.
So he does what you said.
First he just laments and then he does what you said.
He does that.
And then he goes into the Obermann thing and then he finishes off with we should get rid of this guy.
And then he kind of drops back into a John Oliver style again at the end with some ludicrous idea.
And it was very disappointing because I think he's going to lose audience with this idea.
With this panicky kind of an opening, because it was not called for.
No, and if all he has to do is say, hey, Adam, John, can you help me out?
I need a bit.
I need a bit that is funny.
Donald loves Nazis.
Donald loves Nazis.
CNN say that he's KKK, and he shouts and sing hail with it.
Wow.
I'm telling you.
It's a winner.
It's a winner.
But no one has the balls to do that.
You don't have the balls to do that, Kimmel.
That's never going to happen.
No.
I picked up just a few things that I'd like to share with the group.
And it's angry black people on CNN. And they're going after each other, too.
It's just...
It's really...
It's fascinating to watch.
So we'll start with...
Well, he's an overnight sensation, but he does speak on behalf of black people.
He is Don Lemon.
Can we just stop beating around the bush here?
Let's just be honest.
People who, us New Yorkers, we've known who Donald Trump was for a very long time.
We've known with the Central Park Five.
We've known with the housing discrimination.
We've known with him and pushing the whole birther thing, which is a bunch of bull.
We've known that.
We know now why he's so upset, for those of you who did know, so obsessed with Barack Obama.
Barack Obama was a black president.
Maybe he didn't think that Barack Obama was fit to be in office.
He traded on racial animus and racial BS, and he's been doing it for decades.
And we're going to sit here and pretend that we're surprised?
Why aren't people talking about his, and Carl Bernstein, who's been on CNN for months, talking about his fitness for office and what's going on in his head.
How can anyone defend what the president said yesterday?
It is indefensible.
I can't believe people get up here on CNN and on other networks and defend, actually try to defend, especially African Americans and Jewish people, to try to defend what Donald Trump said yesterday.
There is no defense for what he said yesterday.
What he said yesterday was disgusting.
It was un-American.
And anyone who is an American who believes in this country Oh.
There you go.
We're all complicit.
And black people and Jews, don't you dare speak out.
You are being called out.
And this is how it works.
It's really disturbing.
Paris, what's his last name?
He works for the Trump administration.
Well, all I missed were the words, Uncle Tom.
has not done enough, and I'm ashamed that you, as an African American in Paris, will not say that.
Well, Keith, I don't need you to try to pull my black card.
I am well aware of my blackness and don't need you to try to classify me as being one.
I understand what racism is.
Are you?
Keith, don't go there.
Do not...
That's an Uncle Tom thing right there.
Are you really?
Really?
He's basically calling him Uncle Tom.
It's very disturbing, all of this.
Go there.
I know what it means to be a black man in this country.
I know and I experience racism on a regular basis by being a Trump supporter and by being a proud American who happens to be a Republican.
I get racist comments about my family, about my mother, about my girlfriend, about my character.
Mostly coming from black people, Keith, if you really want to get down to it.
My family's from Georgia.
Keith, let me finish.
My family's from Georgia.
We have members of our family that went missing because of the KKK taking them up.
So don't come to me and tell me about what it means to be a black person in this country.
I fought every day in the George W. Bush White House.
Yes, Keith, let me finish.
Calm down.
Answer the question.
No, no, no.
I won't calm down because I will not be attacked by you about my blackness because I happen to be a Republican and I listen to our president.
Paris, you've really gone off the rails here.
I am going off the rails here.
You have no ground and no respect to attack somebody like this.
You're obviously very sensitive and defensive about this issue, Paris, because you have your own issues and demons to resolve.
Get your guests under control.
Even Keith and Paris, just please, please come in.
Get him out of control because I will not come on the show and be disrespected.
You can disrespect African-Americans every day when you come on the show.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Please, please, please.
And you don't represent them at all.
You don't represent the 8% of the voters.
Guys, guys, guys.
You're the spokesperson.
I'm not their spokesperson, but I happen to be a black person who agrees with this president.
And I'm proud that he stood up there and said what he said, denouncing the Klan, denouncing David Duke like he did in March, and denouncing this hatred and violence.
He wasn't forced to do it.
He was not forced to do it.
Take that conversation, have it off camera.
I really would like to have a substantive conversation about...
Yeah, well, he better watch how he talks about me, too.
I understand.
Paris, shut up, please!
For God's sake, why are you doing this?
So you're going to let me...
It's beautiful to watch.
I mean, it's very disturbing, but I guess that's why I watch it.
And so the one black guy says, shut up, to the other black guy.
And it's kind of glossed over.
But when the white guy said, shut up, to the black woman...
Well, my point of disagreement is that that was an excuse to bring these groups together.
This is the former Attorney General of Virginia.
Local blogger who got the permit to protest the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue then blew this up.
That was an excuse.
Look at how they got the permit.
And can I finish, Simone?
Will you just shut up for a minute and let me finish?
Pardon me, sir.
You don't get to tell me to shut up on national television.
I'm sorry.
Under no circumstances do you get to speak to me in that matter.
You should exhibit some decorum and understand that you are trying to...
You know, CNN adopts this format.
Yes, they do.
I consider it reprehensible.
The format's bad.
They got too many people on at the same time.
I mean, even when Tucker Carlson does one of these things where you get a lot of bitching and moaning, it's just him and one other person.
But when you have a group of people yelling at each other, it's...
Besides being unwatchable, it's very disturbing.
Yes, including the host.
It's very disturbing and it's not good for the public.
No!
It's unhealthy.
It's an unhealthy network.
Yes, well, pretty much all of it is unhealthy.
And then, this is mind-boggling.
Now, I started tracking the acronym LGBT for several years ago as it grew.
The acronym grew.
And it became LGBT. And then I got it down to a science, LGBTQIAAP. And that was pretty much the standard until the United Nations said, no, you're wrong, it's LGBTI. So I was like, okay, we can go back to LGBTI. No.
Now we have the new acronym.
You may have seen this on the tweeters because people are sending me this picture.
It's a picture from Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario, Scandinavian.
And it's a poster for inclusiveness training for the Durham ETFO executive stewards and other interested members featuring a presentation by Dr.
Barb Perry.
And the top of this memo that has the new acronym.
And I'm going to give it to you.
And I kid you not, this is actually on this flyer.
What is demisexual?
You got me.
Wow.
Yeah, okay.
It's gone nuts.
That's nuts.
It is nuts.
Yeah.
It's totally nuts.
It's very funny, though.
And I did want to mention that there's a bill.
And here's what's funny about it.
They actually are serious.
Yeah.
Not like a joke or a gag.
Well, it's everybody because I'm a lied.
I'm an ally.
I'm a lied.
I'm a lied with everybody.
Was a lied even in there?
Yes.
Yes.
Well, then if you're a lied, what's demisexual?
You don't know, do you?
Well, I'm a shitty ally.
You're a crappy ally.
Crap-a-lie.
Cral-a-lie.
I want to bring a bill, House Bill 3364 to everybody's attention.
Section 51, Enhancement of Intergovernmental Cooperation.
This bill is, and we'll do a more in-depth of it, not today, is titled the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, very specifically 51.8, Trend Analysis of Emerging Illicit Finance Threats.
There will be a study, discussion of data regarding trends in illicit finance, including evolving forms of value transfer, such as so-called cryptocurrencies, other methods that are computer telecommunications, or internet-based cybercrime, or any other other methods that are computer telecommunications, or internet-based cybercrime, or any other threats the secretary may choose
But they call out cryptocurrency specifically, and I can guarantee you that the exchange of currency into cryptocurrency will become difficult, and certainly it'll take away the anonymity.
So you're either going to have to be mining, or if you have bitcoins, hold on to them if you want to use them.
This is not how money works when you can't exchange it anonymously to buy something.
Except for server hosting or whatever you can get with Bitcoin.
Don't email me.
I know there's more.
Don't email him anyway.
Thanks.
Well, I've got a couple things where we can push them.
I'm going to push them off.
Okay.
But I do have one important one I want to do is my last clip.
Okay.
Because it's informative.
This is a clip that anyone who listens to the whole show, which is hard to do when it's this long, You get something out of it, some value add, because I'm sure that very few...
It was only played on one network that I know of, but it's a good piece of information.
They kind of hide the important part of it, but it kind of comes through at the end.
This is the robocalls clip.
Next tonight here, your money.
Robocalls infuriate Americans every day, many during the dinner hour.
And tonight, a new class action lawsuit and the potential payout of up to $900 per person if you were called.
ABC's chief business correspondent, Rebecca Jarvis, tonight.
Tonight, a potential payout for those who got calls offering free cruises.
All because of a proposed class action settlement in a lawsuit alleging resort marketing group broke the law when it robocalled consumers offering cruises on Carnival in Royal Caribbean and Norwegian.
The cruise lines all denied that they authorized the robocalls.
Anyone getting those calls from 2009 to 2014 may now be eligible for up to $900 for up to three phone lines.
People can check on the settlement website to see if they received a call by punching in their phone numbers.
They have until November 3 to make a claim.
Robocalls to home and cell phones, the number one consumer complaint.
This is an important message regarding your automotive warranty.
Under the law, telemarketing robocalls require consent.
So the government urging consumers to report unwanted calls and stay on that do not call list.
This is going to get a lot of attention tonight.
Where do you check to see if you're on this list?
You go to the Resort Marketing Group settlement website, and you find out you could be given up to $900 for these calls.
All right.
They infuriate so many.
Rebecca, thank you.
When we come back here, the major medical...
Huh.
I will suggest, since very few people know about this...
Know about this, yeah.
Whatever you get, I would recommend sending half of it to the No Agenda show.
Well done, sir.
Yeah, well done.
I'm on the do not call list and I get calls all the time.
Go check it out and then send half of it.
I will.
All right, everybody.
We'll see what Sunday brings.
Lots of stuff going on in the world.
We're here to provide some sanity.
For ourselves.
Mostly.
I'm a happier man for it.
Thank you very much, everybody.
Remember, another show coming up Sunday, as I said.
Dvorak.org slash NA with your robocall money.
Thank you.
Thank you, Chat Room, NoAgendaStream.com.
Thank you, Artists, NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.
Coming to you from the downtown Austin Tejas in the Common Law Condo in the Cludio.
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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I got to watch a disabled train go by today.
Wow.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
Until then, hug.
Adios, mofos.
Adios, mofos. mofos.
When the street is long And the crowd The crowd gathers round When you think you've had enough Cause you're white
Hold on And don't let yourself go.
Everybody drives.
And everybody hates you sometimes.
At the end of the day, they're backing.
You know, they're backing.
Come on.
At the end of the day.
At the end of the day, John.
If someone wants to get anyone, they can get him.
At the end of the day.
At the end of the day.
It's more important that we have entertainment.
At the end of the day.
So, at the end of the day, who's going to pay for the real loan?
It's going to be taxpayer money.
Because at the end of the day, that's going to be up to Valerie Jarrett.
I mean, at the end of the day, isn't that it?
At the end of the day, all this money is owed to bankers.
At the end of the day, I think it's good.
At the end of the day, as Americans, what we always do is we always say...
So, at the end of the day, it's not actually the healthcare, it's the...
At the end of the day, you can't deny I had to put less gas in...
At the end of the day...
We're all anti-Semites.
At the end of the day, you get, I think it's 4%.
At the end of the day.
Starts to run together at the end of the day.
You kind of forget, right?
At the end of the day.
You know, John, you and I are both in the audience business at the end of the day.
At the end of the day.
And so at the end of the day, she can say, hey, I told you so.
At the end of the day.
At the end of the day.
But I don't say at the end of the day.
I said it once said together.
Donald loves Nazis.
Donald loves Nazis.
CNN say that he's KKK. And he shall sing hail with it.
Wow.
Bicycle!
Something that galls me.
Bicyclist that was killed by a train.
Woo-hoo!
He looks right, he looks left, he sees the train, he decides, screw all these signs, I'm on a bicycle, I can do what I want.
Which, by the way, is the way I believe most bicyclists are.
But you've got these bike paths, they're all over the place.
Nobody's in the bike path, they're just going randomly on the wrong side of the road, up and down the sidewalks, just annoyed with these bicyclists around here.
There is a war between bicyclists and automobilists.
It's a war, and it's really coming from the bike people.
And I'm on a bike.
I'm saving the world.
I'm saving the earth.
I'm healthy.
Get out of my way.
I should be able to do what I want.
All I want to do is I want to ride my bike.
I want to ride it where I like.
Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death.
I'm out.
Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death so the talk isn't as free as it is.
To scare people to death so the talk isn't as free as it is.
Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death. - Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death so the talk isn't as free as it is.
To scare people to death so the talk isn't as free as it is.
Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death.
Thank you.
Bye.
Our job tonight actually is to scare people to death so the talk isn't as free as it is.
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