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844: Witch Hunt
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I believe that.
I'm believing Q&A is very good right now.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Thursday, July 21st, 2016.
Time again for your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 844.
This is no agenda.
Deconstructing the carefully constructed chaos in Cleveland and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I watch TV, I'm John C. Devorak.
Yeah, there was a lot of that going on.
I've been glued to my TV. I do have the thematic clip for the convention.
I think this will be thematic for the Democrat convention, too.
Okay.
It's a clip at the bottom of the Eclipse 2 page, and it says woo-woo-woo.
Woo-woo-woo.
Okay.
We'll give it a shot.
Hold on.
Woo!
Who was that?
I missed that.
It was some...
It was one of the...
They had to cut his mic.
It was one of the guys who was, you know, just from one of the states during the roll call.
And this guy...
And everyone's doing this, by the way.
Hold on.
Woo!
I keep that in the Evergreens.
I do.
The...
So this guy's making this sound, and he's just going out of control, and they cut his mic.
They couldn't take it.
No, it's too much.
And everybody's making this sound, this stupid sound the teenage girls made, and we always used to ridicule, but now it's men.
Grown men.
Grown men going, woo!
Woo!
It's grown men wearing V-neck sweaters, though, so...
It's usually a bad sound.
Making a woo-woo sound.
I do have another Evergreen clip for your consideration.
Oh, yes, please.
It's the one that's...
I think it's...
Damn, it's getting bad.
This is Stewie.
Oh, yeah, I got it.
I got it.
I see it here.
Okay.
Another one for my consideration.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I think we can do something together here.
Let's see.
And then we should start the show.
Woo!
When I say woe, I mean woe.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And that's our coverage of the...
It was Bernie.
You just had Bernie to drop in.
Yeah, I know.
But let's get started.
The board works.
The board works.
We know everything works.
All right, I stayed home pretty much for the past four days just watching everything I could.
Gavel to gavel.
You know, it used to be gavel to gavel coverage back in the day, and it has changed.
Some things have changed, some things have not.
The thing that I noticed the most...
Is, you know, all the news networks had their, you know, their like the CNN grill, you know, the MSNBC, you know, I don't know, Oyster Bar.
They had all these little stands set up where they're broadcasting from.
And every single night, except for last night, Particularly the CNN guys will be grousing about, oh, the timing's all wrong, it should be on for TV now, because they're all tired of talking bullcrap filling up the spaces because they had nothing for primetime.
It was so off, the scheduling of the event, and then the television people forgot that this is not a television show, nor was it really ever intended to be, except for some obvious elements.
This is a throwback.
This was, if you go back into this, I think it was in the 50s, maybe, or the early 60s, when David Brinkley and Chet Huntley, Huntley and Brinkley, they decided to start, I think it was NBC. I'm just making this up from memory.
And I was a little kid, so I don't remember that much.
But they started, the network started to When television came around, they came up with the idea because they needed to fill time.
They started covering the conventions from gavel to gavel on TV, the whole thing.
And then this kept going.
It was like a tradition until maybe in the 70s.
Early 80s then.
Because it kind of ended.
Yeah, and then all of a sudden they said, we're losing our ass on this.
We're not getting any advertising.
This is terrible.
So they stopped doing it.
But C-SPAN... This is what I watch most of the time.
I watch pretty much C-SPAN because C-SPAN had it all.
PBS would come on and they'd yak and yak and yak and poor David Brooks was like pathetic.
He's just pathetic.
He's just, oh, I have a cosmic...
I feel so depressed.
Yeah.
And he doesn't get it.
He doesn't help.
He's not doing anything for the audience.
He's not trying to explain what's going on.
He just talks about himself, and he can't understand the Trump phenomenon, and he's depressed about it.
We don't care.
Also, almost every single news crew, and I think PBS was the worst, the news hour.
They were terrible.
They didn't have their audio together, man.
They were screaming.
They couldn't hear each other.
They had no sound blocking even behind.
So the audio was just horrible.
No, PBS was very pathetic.
Poorly produced.
And I do have two clips from PBS if you want to start doing clips because we got, I'm sure, more than a few.
Well, actually, I'd like to ask you something, which I've been dying to ask you, because there's only one person I know of who has standing to accurately answer this question.
Is that okay?
Huh.
Yeah.
Because that would be you.
That would be me.
I do not know anyone else to turn to to ask how speech writing is done, how it gets shuttled around, how checking is done.
And I have to say, I want to lead into this.
Before I say anything, when I moved out and rebooted my life, To be a podcaster?
Yeah, when I became a full-time podcaster living alone.
Woo!
Woo!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We get it.
We get it.
Yes, so I became a full-time podcaster.
But also, you know, everything opened up for me.
I went into therapy, feeling much better about myself.
I have the candles.
I got the bathtub.
Candles in the bathtub.
Everything's great.
But there's one thing that's happened.
I'm not really a crier.
I've never really been a crier.
But for the past year and a half, I am an achievement crier.
When I see someone achieve something, I can't help it.
I tear up.
Are you getting old?
Yeah, crack for me is like America's Got Talent.
Because you know it's coming.
You know, those shows really, and the voice too.
Yes, exactly.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It's cracked because I know how it's put together, but still, I can't help it.
It just works.
It's designed for that.
So I was, of course it's designed for that.
I know that.
I mean, I can watch, you know, love stories, doesn't really do it for me that much, but, you know, achievement, things of achievement.
Yeah, well, okay.
So, when I was already, you know, for Melania, I'm like, I really wanted her to succeed because it's so hard being a beautiful woman involved in politics.
You know, you get a lot of hate no matter what you do.
And people can deny it, but it's just a fact.
Certainly in America.
And look what happened to Sarah Palin.
I mean, that was...
She has never recovered from that.
Now she's just a loony.
She is.
She's loony.
She's got loony.
She wasn't invited to speak.
I can't figure that out.
She's loony.
That's why.
And so, I was crying.
I was like, oh my god, this is so beautiful.
And everybody, because I was switching all the channels, the networks, seeing what they were saying.
Oh, it was great.
They loved it.
And it took maybe 17 minutes.
And then, you know, this big plagiarism thing hit.
I think we kind of know the background of it.
I don't know if we have to explain it.
But I will play, you know, after three days, we got this explanation.
So, John, the campaign is finally...
By the way, this is breaking news, breaking news.
...coming out and...
Really taking full charge of this situation which has been going on for 48 hours.
They are identifying the person who they said helped Melania with the speech and are putting forward and are saying that she offered her resignation this morning.
This is Meredith MacGyver who helped Donald Trump write a number of his books.
She was someone that Melania had turned to for guidance.
But we are told that Donald Trump did not accept her resignation.
So all of this is just coming into us now, and obviously this will be a way in which the Trump campaign thinks that they can move past this controversy, shift the spotlight off of Melania and the chaos in the campaign, and move on to the rest of the speakers this week.
Okay, so before I go into handing it over to you for a little bit of deconstruction of this, I will say that because we had specifically discussed Michelle Obama's First Lady pitch speech in 2008, I didn't catch it the first time,
but then, you know, oh, we have plagiarism, and I remembered hearing the phrase, my word is my bond, and somehow I remember us a long time ago deconstructing that phrase, which comes from Malcolm X, Black Panthers, the fifth, what was it, the 5%, was that what it was called?
What other black power group was there?
Black Panthers.
No, but there was another one.
I think it was specifically the 5% or something.
So I knew that that was already for Michelle Obama.
It was kind of a messaging that I don't think a lot of people caught because the real etymology of my word is my bond goes back to the Chicago Board of Exchange in Chicago.
But it became a big thing in the 70s.
So...
I mean, I have all kinds of thoughts, but really, you are the guy with standing.
You've dealt with speech writing.
You've written speeches.
You've given speeches.
I think at one point you were a beautiful woman, too, so I think you have standing.
I was.
Yeah, you have standing.
Dynamite.
What about it?
Well, what do you think happened?
It's like, I have a bunch of mixed feelings about what happened.
One, I think it was Kimmel.
I'm going to go through the range of the possibilities.
Carelessness.
Possibly Melania is not likable and the speechwriter did this to her.
Possibly it was a setup.
It was put in on purpose to get a lot of attention.
But I don't think Melania would be aware of that because she's not the type of person, it seems to me, that plays the Donald Trump game.
But Trump is.
And he doesn't mind the publicity.
As far as he's concerned, all publicity is good publicity.
Right.
Which he was condemned for, by the way.
I was watching the guy who was his ghostwriter on his Art of the Deal book.
I will talk about that.
A question about that right off the bat.
Don't you sign an agreement with a ghostwriter that you just can't say certain things?
Or isn't there some kind of...
The publisher sets those up.
I don't think Trump, at the time he was young, knew about how to do these contracts properly.
Most people, when they do book deals, they don't do them right.
They usually sign a dummy contract, and they're off to the races getting ripped off.
Yeah, but I don't think Donald Trump signed a dummy contract, do you think?
I don't know whether he did or didn't, but I do know that.
I doubt if he had the wherewithal to put a gag clause in there at the time.
Okay.
I mean, because he does the kind of contracts he does.
He knows what he's doing, and over time he gets better and better at them.
That's what you do with any kind of contract work.
Yeah.
Now, here's the deal with ghostwriting.
There's one, two, three, or four ways to go with it.
And every one of them has a different fee.
Trump was very generous to give this guy 50% of the royalties.
And it should have been enough for this guy just to shut up.
And it was years ago, so this guy's generalizing from young Donald Trump, who was kind of an oofy guy.
Now, the way you do it, if you write a book, you can have your name on it.
It says, buy Adam Curry.
If you use a ghostwriter, you're going to have one of three different things that can happen.
One, and the most expensive one, and this is where you might give 50% royalties, but usually most of these are fees.
You don't usually pay royalties to the ghostwriter.
You give them an upfront cash out.
Right.
And you take the royalties from then.
Right.
You can still have the book by Adam Curry with no other name on there, but it's not written by you at all.
It's written by this ghostwriter.
That costs the most.
Then you can have Adam Curry with, and when it's with, that means somebody else is actually doing most of the work in writing the book.
And that is a type of ghostwriting where the guy's credit is on the cover, and that's what the art of the deal was.
It was...
Donald Trump with this guy Schwartz.
And then there's the third one, the third possibility, which is the book by Adam Curry and...
So the difference between with and and...
Is a big difference.
And when you say with, that means the guy is a designated ghostwriter.
He's doing a lot of the work.
He's doing a lot of the writing.
But he's not really contributing anything insofar as the base content.
He's not contributing ideas.
He's not contributing the theme of the book.
He's just a guy writing the book.
So that's if you say with...
Generally speaking, with means that you're not really doing, you're writing because you're a writer.
But he's telling you what to write and then you're finding ways to put it into words.
Got it.
That's with.
And, if it says and, not with, it says and, that means he's contributing to the thought process that goes into the book itself.
You're writing the book together.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Now that guy had with on the cover.
Right.
And he was getting half the royalties, and I think that was just Trump being generous, if that's even true.
How can that be?
He's a horrible man.
But he was being very generous, and I guess he wanted the guy to do his best work.
I see nothing, even though there's a New Yorker article about this and there's all this stuff and this guy's out and about on CNN and every place else claiming he wrote the whole book.
And I got into a little debate with Heather Gold, a comedian, on Twitter about this because she's, you know, not a Trump fan.
Careful with female comedians.
Before you know it, you're banned.
I've got to be careful.
And I've been back and forth on this and I couldn't get it across that this guy, if he allowed the word with on the thing and he actually wrote the book from scratch himself the way he claims, there's two things that are missing. if he allowed the word with on the thing and One, why did he go along with the idea of with?
He could have put and if Trump is so generous, he wouldn't mind changing with to and.
Most people don't even know what that even means.
I said I'm explaining it now, but nobody knows this except people in the business.
And the other thing is, where is this going?
This guy wrote Art of the Deal.
Where's all his negotiation seminars?
Where is his follow-up book?
Where's all the stuff?
These guys are genius.
Where's the material that comes after this?
No, I don't know what he does.
He sells trinkets or something.
I'm not sure what.
But it's nothing to do with deals and negotiating.
You can make a lot of money writing books on negotiations.
You'd think he would have done another one if he had written this one.
I don't believe a word of it.
And I'd like to see one of these reporters that keeps interviewing him is ask him and say, is the Democrat Party paying you anything?
To be out and about floating around pounding the tub for Hillary.
I haven't heard that at all.
And now, supposedly, there's a cease and desist out there.
Supposedly, we don't know, but there's one.
I guess they put it online.
They're telling the guy to shut up.
Maybe there was a clause in the agreement.
And they want him to send his royalties back.
Now...
He's very blase about this.
I'm thinking, well, that's because the Democrat Party or somebody, the Democratic Party or somebody is, we'll pick it up.
We'll pick up the tab.
Don't worry about it.
Because this is a phony baloney deal if I've ever seen one.
And it's a complete...
It's ridiculous.
And it's the same as the usual suspects.
New York Magazine, I think is one of them, that wrote this guy up.
Or New York, or one of the two.
But it doesn't make any difference.
They hate Trump.
And it's just outrageous.
Okay, so now back to the speech.
Back to the speechwriters.
Back to the speechwriters.
So we heard the story.
I mean, that is the official story.
It took a little long to get out there.
No, it went through three or four iterations.
The story.
Yeah, the story.
Until they finally came up with this last story, which is this girl who some people now tweet out saying she doesn't exist.
I heard she's a spook.
A ghost doesn't exist, and the ghost is also a registered Democrat.
There's all kinds of stuff out there.
Yeah, the Democrat one was my favorite.
I like that a lot.
Usually there's three different wiki pages, all just a little different, all started in the last 40 hours.
So usually speech writers in a political structure are on the staff, and they're not paid by the speech or the word or anything, they're just paid a salary.
I think that's the situation with this woman because he wouldn't take her resignation, so she's obviously working for a living.
She's actually a wage earner, and that was a giveaway there.
So she's just one of the many.
It looks like he's got about, from what I can tell because people keep coming in and out of the scene, it looks like he's got about five or six speechwriters.
Obviously, he's going to have the speech he gives tonight.
It's going to be written by a group of these people, and he's going to read it from the prompter, and it's going to be very bad.
I don't believe he's going to hit the home run that everyone thinks he has to.
I just want to finish the Melania thing.
You don't know, and obviously it's not that important.
Except to me, because I feel really bad.
I've been vilified for things on the internet.
It's horrible.
It's really horrible.
And I just feel bad for her.
I can't help it.
Well, she wouldn't show up.
She refused to come back to the convention.
Yeah, she's going to have to come back tonight, though, I presume, for his big thing.
This will be interesting to see.
Maybe she won't.
That would be funny.
She doesn't have to.
She doesn't have to be there.
She should be there.
Because at the very end, he's going to have to bring out everybody.
Because that's what, you know, the last number of conventions this thing goes on.
You give your speech...
I don't remember this years and years ago, but now you give your speech and then your family comes out and your relatives and your co, you know, Mike Pence will come out with his family and then the entire Trump clan will show up and it'll wander out there along with Melania and Melania.
I can never remember.
And by the way, I'm not a big fan of hers.
No?
No, I don't like her look.
I like her a lot.
I don't like her look.
I think she's too grim.
She rarely smiles.
She's like a backup Russian or something.
Where's she from?
Somebody described her as Putin's wife.
I like her.
I can't help it.
I don't know the woman, but I like her.
I felt bad that it happened.
Well, I felt bad it happened too, but she's got...
There's been a number of these, you know, she's got a very strange, I know a lot of people, not a lot, but I know a number of people from Slovenia and I've been to Slovenia and I've never heard that accent.
Is there a forest or something where you can go get yourself one of these Melanias, you know, it still has some, you know, some sod attached to it, you just take it home?
I can imagine that's what Trump did.
Well, I guess she was living in...
What was the deal with her?
No, it was his first wife that was living in Canada, and he had to keep going up and down to Canada to get her to get Ivana.
I know there's the second one, this...
Marla Maples, she just put her hooks into him.
He wasn't going after her as much as she was going after her.
Of course, I was on the social networks, and man, the same people who are always saying that the Republicans are anti-women, it was really, really harsh to see what she got.
Gold digger, cocksucker, whore.
It didn't stop.
And from women!
From women, John!
From women!
I actually have to stay away from the Democratic Party threads because they are so hate-filled.
I mean, they're projecting when they point the finger at the Republicans as haters.
And all you have to do is listen to Whoopi Goldberg.
I turned it on the other day on The View.
Oh, yeah.
Whoopi and Joy Behar, the two real strong Hillary supporters, are, I hate to say, they're hate-filled.
Whoopi is hate-filled.
And if anyone comes up with anything that's just a little off the path, she rips into them.
I feel sorry for the people on that show.
She rips into people.
She's a horrible host.
Well, I got one clip from The View.
I really enjoyed watching, you know, the morning, I'd watch The Morning Joe, and I'll go to, what's the little girl's name, who used to be the football player?
Oh, right, that show.
Yeah, with Kathy Lee Gifford.
Yeah, exactly.
Kathy Lee Gifford, only the younger version, but maybe not that young anymore.
And, let me see, I got a couple, actually a couple of things.
That I caught.
Maybe I should play just as a set-up play.
Because, of course, this is being discussed, but not really being played a lot.
The mother of Sean Smith, who I think did a very good job.
I believe there was some teleprompter.
I was really stunned how she stuck to script, because we've heard her say this.
And she, I think, brought a bunch of tears to the eyes of many of the...
Oh, my goodness.
C-SPAN was zooming in.
C-SPAN! C-SPAN had some very good camera work, and they were the pool group, as far as I can tell, for the whole convention, for everyone.
Here's Patricia Smith, mother of Sean Smith.
You've heard her many times on the show before.
The very next day, he was murdered.
By radical Islamic terrorists.
To this day, I don't even know why a computer guy like Sean was sent to Benghazi.
That night, we lost sons, brothers, fathers and husbands.
We lost four brave Americans who made the ultimate sacrifice for the country they chose to serve.
I blame Hillary Clinton.
Well, I don't think I have to play the whole thing because you get the idea.
But here's PBS. I'll get to the view in a moment.
Here's PBS with their response.
They can hear how shitty the audio is.
They could even hear themselves speaking.
Oh, and by the way, I want to stop it right there.
The PBS group is all wearing countrymen.
It's all what?
There was only two people I know.
Oh, Countryman mics.
Yeah, I gotcha.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Countryman mics.
Those are the little ones that hang off your ear and they come around.
I only saw two people wearing those mics properly.
Everybody else had them out there like boom mics.
That's not how you wear them.
And Judy had them right and David Brooke had it worn right.
And the other people should at least find out how to wear them right.
How about the audio guy?
It doesn't mean you're a professional broadcaster.
This is the audio guy.
I'm sorry, what?
The audio guy messed that up.
He's responsible for that.
That's right, it's the audio guy.
The audio guy stunk.
Yeah, no kidding.
We can get through it.
At PBS NewsHour, joint coverage of the Republican National Convention.
Mara Liason, why is it that this Benghazi episode gets so much attention?
Why does it resonate as it is tonight?
Gee, why does it resonate?
This is something that really, for a lot of Republicans and Hillary Clinton opponents, kind of crystallizes the worst thing about her, that she caused the deaths of these soldiers and other personnel.
I don't know if Mark remembers a time when so much intense animus has been directed.
Intense animus?
That's a good one.
This woman, by the way, was from NPR, the one talking.
I watched her without the sound.
She's insane.
What's her name?
Do you remember who she is?
I don't remember her name.
She's with NPR. She's an obvious tub thumper for Hillary.
And the whole NPR. And she's extremely arrogant about it.
I've noticed this with a lot of the public broadcasting people.
And PBS, the NewsHour folks, I thought were...
They did not have any objectivity whatsoever, besides David Brooks, who was just moaning about his own feelings.
They were all in on being extremely critical, and then they brought this little big-nosed girl.
It was a really small little...
I have no idea why she's even on the network.
It's Lisa Desjardins.
Oh, she's their new star.
She's their new political star.
And she has the most interesting face.
She's got a honker that is the size of buffalo.
I call it an interesting...
Let's listen to the intense animus.
...remembers a time when so much intense animus has been directed at the...
This strikes me as being pretty intense.
They don't even know what to do with it.
Because they've never really covered this properly.
Patricia Smith has only been on Fox and, I don't know, you know...
that's about it as far as i can tell uh going back uh good question i mean i mean hillary clinton should be in stripes she deserves prison from the crowd criminal from the crowd and repeated by the speaker the speaker that she was off script not part of her yeah she responded she responded to the crowd and when i said that i noticed that they were looking down and um judy was she was off I guess they had a script.
Someone released that to them or they had that or it's part of the process.
Well, she's off script.
This is not good.
This is not what she was off script.
It was yelling and not heckling, but supporting.
I mean, that was not an organized disciplined activity in the park.
But this is an organized disciplined activity.
Message that is being repeated in a very disciplined way.
Things are bad.
We have no stability.
Donald Trump can fix it.
Hillary Clinton.
They just can't handle it.
They cannot handle what she was saying.
They can't really talk about it.
They don't know what to do.
Here's The View's take on it.
Someone looking at a mom who lost their child, if that were me, all I would be seeking would be answers and the truth.
All I would want is somebody to tell me, how did my son die and why did my son die?
So when I watch that, I can't blame her for how she feels.
You know something, it's inappropriate to put that at a convention, in my opinion.
In 20...
when did Obama come in the first time?
2004, was it?
2008.
2008, okay.
Wow, this woman's an idiot.
When did he come in?
2004?
I don't know.
Gee, woman.
2004, was it?
2008.
2008, okay.
He didn't have a thousand mothers up there who lost their boys in Iraq.
Oh, okay.
And say it's George Bush's fault.
Because the man has class, that's what.
This guy will do anything to get you to sympathize and attack Hillary Clinton.
It's completely inappropriate.
Yeah, but when they want to pass...
That's not fair, though.
You lose a sign, your heart's not fair, though.
It's not about her, it's about Donald Trump.
You know, the funny thing is a false analogy to begin with.
Oh, of course.
Because Obama didn't run against George Bush.
George Bush wasn't the candidate, so what she said doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
He's running against McCain.
Well, she still thinks Obama came in in 2004, so I don't know what's up with that.
That's Behar, but I'm surprised you didn't hear Whoopi screaming at somebody over that whole thing.
I did think it was funny, and I think it was misinterpreted by especially the liberal media.
Oh, it was rude when the audience out of the blue, and they did this over and over every day.
Lock her up.
I actually have the first time that happened, I have that here.
It was with Christie, and it started rumbling, mumbling, and later there were signs.
I think it was Christie.
They invented it on the spot.
Oh, yeah.
Someone invented it.
Here it is.
It's a deal that will lead to a nuclear Iran.
An Israel that will be less safe and secure and a much more dangerous Middle East.
So let's ask it.
Hillary Clinton, as an inept negotiator of the worst nuclear arms deal in American history, is she guilty or not guilty?
Next.
Here's where it starts.
Next.
There it is.
Lock her up.
That was pretty intense.
I thought it was hilarious.
Nobody thought it was funny.
In fact, I heard some analysis saying, oh, it was so rude.
Give me a break.
The second time...
Hold on, let me see.
Lock her up.
When I heard the way everyone was saying, that was actually to me more impactful, was guilty, guilty.
It sounded a lot well here.
Hillary Clinton cared more about protecting her own secrets than she cared about protecting America's secrets.
And then she lied about it over and over and over again.
She said there was no marked classified information on her server.
The FBI director said that's untrue.
She said that she did not email any classified information.
The FBI director says that's untrue.
She said all work-related...
Interesting how he kept saying untrue instead of a lie or false.
He just kept saying, is that, I guess, some kind of legal thing, maybe, that he was doing?
No, no, it was just...
I noticed a couple of speakers.
There was two or three meme styles that I noticed during these speeches, and one of them was kind of this...
There's a name for what he's doing.
And one of the other speakers did it, too.
It wasn't Cruz.
It was one of the other good speakers.
And Christie's a good speaker.
And they used this gimmick.
And it's a gimmick where you keep referring back to this thematic little thing to get the audience worked up.
And it's very hard to pull off.
If you've ever seen Chris Rock...
Do a stand-up routine, a full stand-up routine.
He puts that into his act.
And it's quite powerful.
It's very funny.
So when I heard this guilty thing, I'll play for you what I heard in my head.
Related emails were sent back to the State Department.
The FBI director said, that's not true.
So, as to Hillary Clinton, the charge of putting herself ahead of America, guilty or not guilty...
Speaking of such, man, I screwed it up.
I was going to play my win, lose, or drone there, damn it.
Win, lose, or drone!
If you're going to...
I have one of these bits...
You have one of these bits?
Let's see if I can fail on yours.
What you tried to do.
This is going to be an Ask Adam.
It's about the convention.
They bring in the colors.
Yes, the colors.
My favorite one, though, you've got to play this little one if I can find it.
This is the National Anthem Singer.
This is the level of guys...
That they brought on.
This is kind of the bio of the guy coming out to sing the National Anthem.
Play this.
With liberty and justice for all.
National Anthem singer.
Oh, that's right.
That's where it ended.
You're right.
Sorry.
It's right.
All right.
Please welcome lifelong Browns fan, Dan Polk, who will sing the National Anthem.
Okay, so the guy's claim to fame is he's a Browns fan.
Lifelong, lifelong fan.
On the first day, who was the young woman who's blind and she had a wooden leg?
Almost everything you could have, she had.
And she was great.
I'm crying.
The woman on the third night could not only sing the thing beautifully, they had no bio for her, but she said in the Home of the Free or something, she hit about three octaves over a normal voice.
It was dynamite.
Yeah, some of that was really good.
Now, this is the one that...
Now, I want you to...
This is kind of an Ask Adam.
I want you to tell me what you're going to hear.
I was in the kitchen when they were doing this, and I'm thinking, holy crap!
They're playing one of our jingles!
Do I hit it?
No, this is Retiring of the Colors.
And tell me if you can figure it out.
The voters are retired.
We are rising for our hearts.
The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The.
Okay.
Okay.
Donate to No Agenda.
I knew that's exactly what you were saying.
Donate to No Agenda.
They give us shows week after week.
Donate to No Agenda.
It's a show that's really unique.
Donate to No Agenda.
Listen to John and Adam speak.
Donate to No Agenda.
Science is turning into ugly.
It doesn't match...
It's just reminiscent.
It's reminiscent.
So when I was in the kitchen, I'm hearing it going, why are they playing Donate to No Agenda at the convention?
So it sounded like the retiring of the color sounded like Al-Akbar song from ISIS, is what you're saying.
No, it sounds like Donate to No Agenda.
Which is the Al-Akbar song.
Oh, that's right.
That's quite a stretch, but I like it.
Man.
Well, okay, we've got a couple of memes that I'm sure we'll be hearing.
Here's one.
By standards, how would you gauge?
Oh, this was Bill Maher's doing live shows, so I caught this on the repeat, which is always fun.
This convention's hate.
Hate.
Hate.
It's out of control.
It's a little off the chart.
You have Israelis writing columns comparing what is being said now about Hillary to what was said about Rabin before he was assassinated by an unhinged right-winger.
Woo!
I think that's Dan Savage who is saying that.
In Israel, during an election campaign.
The hate could lead to Hillary being killed, which, by the way, is a scenario we've never discussed.
A presidential election campaign.
Well, yeah, there was a delegate who said she should be shot for treason.
Not a delegate.
He works in the Trump campaign.
He's an official in the Trump campaign.
He's being investigated now.
The guy's being investigated by the FBI for saying that.
I thought it was Secret Service.
And Zika virus, apparently she's responsible for that.
Yeah.
Mitch McConnell.
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
I like it.
Tom, responsible for that, according to Chris Christie.
Lucifer.
What?
She's in league.
With the devil.
That's what Ben Carson said.
She's taking her marching orders from Lucifer.
Which is...
Talk about a third world country.
Which is why you had almost what a lot of people have compared to almost a burn the witch moment.
Ah, there it is.
This is what you're going to see everywhere.
Witch hunt, Salem witch trials, burn the witch, crazy Republicans.
Sorry?
I think this is a huge mistake.
For them to say this?
Yeah, because you have.
Because you're doing association.
It's not the way to do this.
You don't want to associate Hillary Clinton with a witch.
I know!
Because there's pictures out there that make her look like a witch.
This is the dumbest.
These guys are idiots.
Well, here's the quote, one little quote from Ben Carson, which brings up the Lucifer thing, which I think if no one had said anything, no one's going to care who Saul Alinsky is, no one cares, but no, they have to highlight it by saying she's a witch and they're witch hunting.
It's very stupid, I agree.
I have learned about Hillary Clinton is that one of her heroes, her mentors, was Saul Alinsky.
And her senior thesis was about Saul Alinsky.
This was someone that she greatly admired and that affected all of her philosophies subsequently.
Now, interestingly enough, let me tell you something about Saul Alinsky.
He wrote a book called Rules for Radicals.
On the dedication page, it acknowledges Lucifer, the original radical who gained his own kingdom.
Now think about that.
This is a nation where our founding document, the Declaration of Independence, talks about certain inalienable rights that come from our Creator.
So are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges Lucifer?
Think about that!
Think about that!
I do want to say that since 2011, the oldest clip I have, because we used to name the clips that way, we were calling Hillary Clinton Lucifer.
It's like a joke.
We were calling her Lucifer and Clippity Clopper.
Clippity Clopper.
Yeah, exactly.
I was like, wow, you know, that's interesting that that comes back.
We are so from the future.
It's crazy.
Yeah, and we dropped it.
I know.
What are we thinking?
We've got to bring it all back.
I want to go back to that Bill Maher panel for two more clicks.
That's what I find the most interesting.
I just love...
I would switch away from CNN just to see the heads explode on MSNBC. I have no dog in the hunt, but man, that's so fun to watch.
But this Maher thing, and he had on...
Well, he had Michael Moore on.
Boy, when you say Michael Moran, that's kind of strange the way it comes out.
Listen to what he had to say.
It might have sounded crazy to us, but to millions and millions of Americans, this was music to their ears.
And I think one of the things I've been concerned about this week is that we're all sitting, as you refer to, the bubble.
We've been sitting in our bubble, having a good laugh at this total, as you said, shit show.
But the truth is, is that this plays to a lot of people that he has to win to become the next president.
And I have to say, I mean, I'm sorry to have to kind of be the buzzkill here so early on.
Wait a minute.
Who are you choosing?
Are you trying to weasel it on your turf?
Yeah, I see.
They'll have none of that.
The buzzkill here so early on, but I think Trump is going to win.
What?
I'm sorry.
You know what?
Ruh-roh!
I am glad you're saying it.
Everybody should say that.
No, no.
The enemy is complacency.
Say it every day.
Because saying it every day will really help him not get elected.
He certainly could win.
I live in Michigan.
Let me tell you.
A bunch of shamans.
It's fantastic.
There's a guy, unreligious guy, but it's like, oh, don't say that.
It's crazy.
Fantastic!
I love this.
It's going to be the Brexit strategy.
The middle of England is Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.
And Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes.
The total electoral votes of those four states in the Rust Belt, 64.
All he has to do is win those four states.
I'm telling you, I was there during the Michigan primary, and he went there in front of the Ford, and he said, I'm telling you right now, they moved this factory to Mexico.
I'm putting a tear up on the cars, and that's it.
And it was music to people's ears.
And more people in Michigan, in the Michigan primary, voted Republican than Democrat in the primary this year.
So this is, of course, very hard to hear for the bot panel.
And I got the last one here, Shorty, because, of course, Moore's not dumb, and he has some similar theories to us about the vice presidential pick.
Really, the people who are going to be running the country are douchebag bun fuckface Trump.
So he's saying that his kids are going to be running the country, and I guess one of the kids' names is Douchebag Von Fuckface.
Apparently, I didn't know that.
I need one of those, hi, my name is Douchebag Von Fuckface.
That'd be great.
Fuckface Trump.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
Thurston shitbag the third.
Honestly, here's what I think.
Wow, I mean, this is taking the high road, I guess.
Isn't that what it's called?
Taking the high road.
Yeah, they're taking the high road.
Honestly, here's what I think.
I never get tired of calling him that.
This is what's going to happen on inaugural day.
He's going to walk into the White House and go, what a dump.
I'm not going to live in a little house like this.
And he's going to say, you kids live here.
I'm going to go buy an estate out in Fairfax.
And he will.
He'll buy a big mansion with a golf course.
And he'll be out there.
And the kids and Pence, scary Pence, will be running.
Because when he's standing beside him, he looks like the CEO or CFO that he's hired.
And that's exactly what he is.
Exactly.
He nailed it.
And I was explaining this.
Tina and I were having a conversation, but I wasn't explaining.
That would be mansplaining.
You know, the president is often called the chief executive, chief executive officer.
And a chief executive officer who are highly, you know, the big ones, highly paid.
They can bop around from company to company or country to country, if you want to pull the full analogy.
And, you know, they're marketing the face of the company.
They talk to Wall Street.
You know, they do the deals, basically.
And the chief operating officer, that is the guy.
That is what Pence is.
And, of course...
If the chief executive officer should no longer be available due to some mishap or maybe he's going to go live in Fairfax with his golf course, then nothing will change.
The efficient government will continue to run thanks to Pence.
And this is weird.
Brian the Gay Crusader tipped me off to this.
At first I said, nah, that's not going to happen.
But there is a huge concerted effort to turn Pence into the anti-gay guy.
And because he signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana.
Which is, oh!
He hates the gays.
He hates it.
He wants people to discriminate against the gays.
This is crazy.
We can't have any of this.
This guy's an a-hole.
He hates the gays.
And then there's three things.
One is...
That he apparently signed some...
I haven't been able to find this, I just really didn't have the time.
The headline is, he diverted funds from HIV research to conversion therapy.
And I'm going to ask our LGBTQIAP producers out there, this is clearly a Democrat term that is, you know, it's almost like enhanced interrogation, only the other way around.
When you say conversion therapy, is there really some clinic you go to that says conversion therapy on the front door, or is it something else?
I'd like to understand what that is.
Well, conversion therapy, which they put in, the Democrats are all over this, too.
The Democrats are...
Well, they're going after the gay thing.
This is pretty much the same base that they're always going after.
I don't even know why they bother, but they do.
Conversion therapy came in somewhere in the platform, and I haven't found it in there, but it's supposedly...
In the Democrat platform?
It's accepted practice.
Democrat platform or the Republican?
The Republican platform.
Accepted practice.
I want to learn about that.
The thing that is a mistake, although I don't know if it'll make any difference, Mike Pence actually also signed the amendment into law for the Restoration of Religious Freedom Act, or the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
And if you look at the actual text, it does not encourage...
In fact, it specifically forbids discriminating against any group, any race, any gender, any sexual identity, except...
Churches, approved 5013C religious groups, they are permitted to say, hold on, whatever you want to do, we have different religious beliefs, we're not going to do it.
They have protection over their own domain, which I think every religion should have and they shouldn't be forced to do anything.
So there is no discriminatory law.
Regarding religious freedom.
But if you listen to...
I was listening to the Progressive Channel and Channel 127 Sirius.
Just everywhere.
It's like, this guy hates gays.
He wants gays discriminated against.
And they're wrong.
I don't know if they don't know it.
Or if it doesn't matter.
If that'll just stick forever.
No, it doesn't matter.
I think it'll just stick.
But it's...
Yeah, it sticks.
These things stick.
I'm kind of disappointed in the Democrats not sticking with the...
You're focusing a little more on Trump with that, which Scott Adams talked about, the crazy racist.
That's my point, is they should stick to crazy racist, but now you see that there's a shift, and we're also not seeing all the promised protests today could be different.
I think what's happening...
Is it all these people who are all, you know, protests, Black Lives Matter, can't have Trump become president?
I think they look at the news and go, oh shit, man, they're killing cops.
I don't want no part of that.
So I don't think they have the numbers right now to organize a big enough protest.
It just doesn't seem to be happening.
Well, just as a piece of counter-programming, let's play this.
This is the guy who ran pretty much the guy really behind the strategies for Obama.
He's named Ploof.
You've heard of his name?
Yeah, of course, Ploof.
David Ploof.
Didn't he eventually go on to be like a Silicon Valley guy?
I don't know what he's doing.
But he was on one of the shows.
I think it was...
I don't know if it was PBS, whatever.
You can figure it out when you start hearing the voices.
But Plouffe takes a little exception to what, not specifically, but what Moore said about how easy it would be for Trump to win by taking these few states.
Plouffe has a little more, I think, kind of a realistic look at this, at least insofar as they're not being a huge.
I think what's going to determine this election personally is that there's going to be a lot of people who never voted before coming out.
If Trump's going to win, that's how he's going to win.
It's not going to be by just doing what Romney did.
But that again, I think Trump will probably lose a lot of those people if he doesn't get back on his no teleprompter approach.
But let's play what Plouffe had to say.
I think this is interesting.
...state that Romney lost, that Trump should be favored in.
And that's really what they have to focus on.
I don't think so.
I mean, Hillary Clinton's going to...
Ohio?
No.
I mean, we won...
So where we are right now, Cleveland, we won this area by 260,000 votes.
Won the state by almost 200,000.
Pennsylvania...
But if you look at today's polls, because he's not running against Barack Obama.
He's running against Hillary Clinton.
But the reality is, in both the Philadelphia area and the Cleveland area and the suburbs, she's going to walk out of there with big margins.
There's just not enough votes, in my view, for Trump to make up...
So why do the polls show them...
Tied in Pennsylvania.
Tied in Ohio.
I ran a presidential campaign and was responsible for another.
I never paid attention to polls.
What matters is you have a pretty good sense of the presidential campaign who's going to vote.
There's a lot of people who say they're undecided that truly aren't because you have some sense of how they're likely to break based on characteristics.
The real question is there is some true undecided voters and that's where the campaign lies.
Both campaigns do have turnout challenges.
So I think when you look at Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and that's the other thing.
Trump could win Florida, Ohio, and Virginia, and Clinton would still win the presidency if she wins the rest of the Obama states.
So she has her challenges.
I think democratic enthusiasm is not what we need it to be.
She needs to work on that next week, just as Trump needs to do that here in Cleveland.
How do you think the convention is going so far?
What do you make of it?
Well, I think the only thing that matters is Trump's speech.
And if he energizes Republicans, gives them more confidence, and I think particularly provides an economic message that is captivating to true swing moderate voters, it will have been a success.
You don't think the kerfuffle over Christie is anything?
No!
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests that this would reach out to moderate voters, even voters who voted for Obama twice.
But what matters is Trump's speech.
So if he nails that, and I think he's got...
Yeah, anyway, that's his theory.
That's possible.
He has to nail the speech.
I like it because he's a pro.
Yeah, he does consulting now.
He consults.
I picked up a little ditty here.
Of course, there's a lot of talk about, you know, oh, he's been married three times, you know, but it's just all about, oh, how can you be religious?
How can you believe in the sanctity of marriage?
All this stuff is going around, and I have some standing.
Here's Donna Brazile.
And I think she was either high or they're a little punch drunk or just bored out of their minds.
But she let something slip that was interesting to hear.
I want to speak out to the people that have been married more than once.
I think if you've been married more than once, you're the ultimate optimist.
And if he can present...
If he can present...
Whoa!
As somebody who's never been married but have looked around a lot...
You have looked around?
Hell yeah!
I even look around at you sometimes when I'm bored.
Were you able to hear what she said?
Yeah, she's never been married and she looks around.
But I'll play it again.
Listen to what she says right after that.
Hell yeah!
I even look around at you sometimes when I'm bored.
I even look at chicks sometimes when I'm bored.
No, I even look at you sometimes.
Oh, that's not what I heard.
Hell yeah.
I even look around at you sometimes.
Oh, maybe you're right.
Jews?
I look around at you when I'm bored.
Nice, though.
Nice try.
It's not as good when I... It sounded different when I was clipping it.
Damn it.
Damn it.
It's foiled again.
I would like to play just a couple of clips here from some of the speakers.
Very, very heavy on black speakers.
Liked it a lot.
They were all very enthusiastic.
I like Daryl Scott.
He's an Ohio Baptist minister, I believe.
Which, of course, I think Van Jones called them fiery blacks.
It's just like, is that guy racist or what?
I believe, I truly believe that nothing will prevent Donald Trump from doing everything in his power to create an America and to become a president that everyone can be proud of.
And Donald Trump believes, as you believe and I believe, that we can become great again.
But we can only become great again if we have strong leadership.
And I can think of no stronger leader who would place their left hand on a Bible that they believe in, raise their right hand, and solemnly swear to faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and to the best of his ability preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States than Donald J. Trump!
I like it.
Yeah, it was okay.
But I think the better...
Well, you know why I liked it?
Because he said he's going to swear to defend and uphold the Constitution.
Like, finally someone said the right thing.
It wasn't about warmongering, protecting the American people, killing ISIS, locking up Hillary.
It was just, that's the job.
I like it.
This is like, what was that thing that, guys, skip logic.
Every time you bring something up, I have a clip.
Okay, it's alright, good.
Now that you brought that up, you brought that up because you liked it because of that, here's the old Attorney General under the last couple years of Bush, I don't have his name in front of me, talking about this particular topic.
The United States is the only country in the world That was founded based not on blood or a land, but based on a law, the Constitution.
Hillary Clinton is running for an office, the presidency, whose powers and duties are defined by that law.
The most important power that that law gives the president Is to be commander-in-chief of the armed forces to protect the country.
Bomb them!
That law imposes really only one substantive duty on the president.
And that is, as written in the Constitution, to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
That law, the Constitution, Specifically requires that before taking up those powers and duties, the president swear to an oath.
And it's the only oath that's set forth in the Constitution to faithfully execute the office and to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.
Hillary Clinton took a similar oath before she became Secretary of State.
You know what that adds up to?
What that adds up to is that Hillary Clinton is asking the people of this country, the people of the United States, to make her the first president in history to take the constitutional oath of office after already having violated it.
The guy was boring, but it was funny.
That was funny.
Well, I got one for you, speaking of Skiblogic.
Antonio Sabado, who...
Now, was he the real-world guy that he met his wife on The Real World?
An actor?
Did you see him?
I saw him, but I don't know the backstory.
Well, he sat down later with LZ from the ESPN and CNN guy.
I guess they were in it.
Maybe it was an MSN. I think it must have been a CNN or ABC. Booth they had.
And they're talking about, because the guy's very, you know, he's religious, and he's very committed to that.
And here's what came out.
I mean, it says that it...
But it doesn't say which God.
It just says which a God.
Oh, he's talking about, you know, one nation under God, and in God we trust on the money.
I think that's it.
And given by our creator in the Constitution.
There's only one.
That's one God that we know about.
It's not, you believe it's Islam, this country was based on Islam, or you believe that the God that I'm talking about is the one in the Bible.
Do you believe that we could never have a Muslim president or never have a Jewish president?
We had one.
We had a Muslim president for seven and a half years.
You believe that President Obama is a Muslim?
Absolutely.
Is that what you're saying?
Absolutely.
And that is based on what you feel in your heart?
That's what I believe, yeah.
And you know what?
I have the right to believe that, and you have the right to...
Go against that, but I believe it.
We're not necessarily going against it.
He grew up in that world.
That's where he comes from.
That's where he grew up in.
We're just trying to figure out how you can say you love the country and you love the Constitution while openly stating things that seem to go against what the Founding Father stood for, which is separation of church and state.
Well, I believe that he made a lot of wrong choices, and those are my beliefs.
It's interesting.
They don't go against the Muslim thing, just like, well, you know, how can you be against that?
Yeah, that is funny.
You'd think they would call him out on that.
Uh-uh.
I think this meme is just completely out of control.
I'm in.
I know.
Of all people.
Of all people.
Which is why I take that seriously.
That's because I read the essays by Daniel Pipes.
Yeah.
I have a little respite, or just a little, even though I think it'd be nice to take a break, but I have a funny bit here I gotta play.
Yeah, I gotta, I gotta funny bit too.
Alright.
Okay, well, I, this funny bit, this is, I don't want to be called a racist, because this kind of mocks a guy with an Indian accent, and I'm reminded of Ron Bloom over at Mevio, who used to bring up this poor Indian guy and have him speak in front of a group, because it sounds silly.
Shrikant, Shrikant.
Shrikant.
Shrikant.
I believe that, I'm believing Q&A is very good right now.
Now this guy is the spokesperson during the roll call vote for Virginia.
And by the way, we have no Indian donors.
Rarely, sometimes, about once every year somebody comes in, I'm Indian and you can screw off because we call them cheap.
And we know some Indians in India listen to the show.
I'm not talking about Americans that have been here forever and they speak good English.
This is a guy from India.
At some point, I'm sure I can identify a couple words.
Instead of saying vote, he says wart.
He says wart?
Yeah, wart.
He doesn't say woat.
He says wart instead of woat.
Instead of vote.
And he says, at some point he says bunghole in the middle of his little talk here, and I don't know why.
I missed this.
Oh, you missed the best thing then.
This is Indian guy from Virginia giving the votes.
Vote totals out.
Virginia, 49 delegates to the following bound delegates.
17, Trump, 8, Cruz, 16, Rubio, 5, Kasich, 3, Carson.
Namaste, Mr.
Chairman.
The Commonwealth of Virginia is the mother of presidents and the cradle of freedom.
Virginia, where liberty sprouted from the roots of gemstone and where patriots' dreams came true.
Virginia, where a fledgling old dominion grown into a digital dominion.
Virginia is truly a commonwealth of opportunity.
I, Subba Kolla, first Indian American National Delegate from Virginia, I really only understood about 60%, and I'm good at hearing people with accents.
That was tough.
He's the first.
I don't know why they put him up there.
Diversity, man.
Diversity.
They're being magnanimous, and they're overdoing the diversity thing.
The guy can barely speak English.
Here we go.
I am proud to report that Persian to the Republican primary in Virginia history of our delegation cast the following bound votes.
Three votes for Dr.
Ben Carson.
Five votes for Governor John Casey.
Put it on your nose.
Eight votes for Senator Ted Cruz.
Warts.
That's great.
Sixteen votes for Senator Margot Rubio.
Seventeen votes for our next President of United States of America, Mr.
Donald J. Trump.
Trump.
I didn't hear the bunghole.
I didn't hear the bunghole.
Yeah, it was right at the...
Just before he started reading off the votes, he says bunghole.
I did not hear it.
Should I go back?
Yeah, back it up just a little bit.
Virginia Historia!
Our delegation.
Right here?
It's coming up.
Cast the following bone warts.
That's bone warts, I think you said.
You think that's bung holes?
I said bung holes, didn't he?
Following bung holes.
Bone warts.
I don't know what he said.
And then the guy at the very end of the year, just as it fades out, the guy says, well done.
Some guy says, well done.
I like the warts.
I'm going to give you a clip of the day.
That was pretty much it.
Alright, we've got two clippies here.
By the way, if we were doing this, this is not an independent production being produced.
I'm fired for that clip.
I think the hotline is ringing.
That's right.
Curry, Dvorak, you're fired.
Exactly.
MSNBC had a lot of problems, mainly because Brian Williams, who is on air almost all the time, of course, with Rachel Maddow, I think she hates him, just looking at how they work together.
And, of course, he has to ask guests about, well, what do you think about her integrity and Hillary's lying?
He's the biggest liar of all.
It's very uncomfortable for him to say, well, what do you think about her integrity?
How about yours, Brian?
It's very sad to see it.
But there was a big...
Not just Rachel, but also Chris Hayes.
They made the buttons.
The buttons at the convention.
They had segment after segment about the buttons.
Well, I didn't watch MSNBC much.
I did see some of it.
And I didn't know any of this.
I didn't know they were doing...
Why?
Well, okay, so in the show notes I'll have a picture.
See, here are the buttons.
So they show on screen.
Life's a bitch.
Don't vote for one.
Hillary for prison.
Vote no to Monica's ex-boyfriend's wife.
And KFC, Hillary's special, two fat thighs, two small breasts, left wing.
Which is horrible.
These are horrible buttons.
Yeah, it's horrible, but these are all internet memes.
And they had to do not one, but two pieces on it.
I want to show you a little something that we shot earlier today.
I will tell you that some of our viewers, you're not going to find this offensive.
You may find it uncomfortable.
And so you may not want to look at this stuff.
Oh, don't watch because you might get triggered.
Oh, don't watch.
It might hurt your feelings.
You might get triggered.
These are some of the pins that are being sold at the venue, at the RNC venue in Cleveland.
And, you know, you always...
Are you buying these pins?
I'm sorry?
I'd buy these pins.
Of course you'd buy these pins.
You're an archivist.
Very important.
In conventions, you always get sharp-edged stuff, particularly the merchandisers tend to compete with each other to see what they can produce that will one-up one another.
But from calling Hillary Clinton a bitch to...
The KFC special referring to her breasts and thighs and her left wing and all of those other things.
That's part of the merchandise of the RNC. We've also seen pre-printed signs saying Hillary Clinton for prison.
We've seen calls from the stage that she ought to be in stripes, that she ought to be locked up.
That's been a chant throughout the convention proceedings thus far.
We expect to see more of this tonight.
Yeah, you'll see a lot more.
Now, were they showing the button?
Yes, yeah, they showed it while she was saying, oh, bitch.
What are they thinking?
This is, again, I think, a huge mistake.
I agree.
Well, listen to Chris Hayes, and then we can discuss it.
Obviously, Hillary Clinton's not popular in that hall.
Oh, he's talking to Republican Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn outside, who was very even-keeled about this.
Obviously, Hillary Clinton's not popular in that hall, and she's the...
I understand that.
But I wonder, like, when you see shirts around here with buttons that, like, use the word B-I-T-C-H to describe her...
Oh, he has to say B-I-T-C-H because, oh my gosh, you know, there may be children listening who, you know, luckily the children who watch MSNBC can't spell, so they don't know the word is bitch.
Have you ever noticed how he gets his voice?
Whee!
We're B-I-T-C-H. B-I-T-C-H. The degree of that, that's like Trump shirts, Trump that, you know, like does that, how do you feel about that?
Have you read my Twitter feed?
Or my Facebook page?
You know, it kind of comes with the territory.
Exactly.
And you just have to shake it off.
So you sort of feel like...
Being a woman in the public sphere comes with that kind of invective.
You wouldn't believe what all I've been called and what's been said to me in my career, whether it was in the private sector or in the public sector.
You know, go read my Twitter feed.
I will.
I mean, I'm sure it's unspeakably ugly.
You wouldn't believe how liberals just stay on my case all day long every day.
We have people that are liberals that they're paid to come out and protest me.
Let me ask you a more straightforward question then.
Do you feel that some of the invective directed towards Hillary Clinton is misogyny, is about her being a woman?
I think what it is about is people don't agree with her principles and her experience or lack thereof.
I really liked another good word, invective.
These are some dynamite words that I don't think half the audience understands.
Invective.
Yeah.
I never heard that one.
I liked it.
Well, final thing then, I believe, although we have more, you know, election stuff.
Ted Cruz comes out.
Wait, wait.
We didn't get to discuss this.
You said we're going to discuss this.
I'm sorry.
The uses of these images on MSNBC, which is a supportive network for Hillary.
I just think this is bad form.
I think all this is doing is an injecting into the mind.
Again, I'll fall back on the hypnotic stuff.
Yeah, Scott Adams, sure.
It's just suggestive stuff.
I think the brain says, why do they keep saying lock Hillary up?
Why do they put her in jail?
Why do they put Hillary for prison?
Why are they...
Why are they calling her that?
It's what goes on when you keep seeing all this negative stuff.
They should be talking what they should be doing if they're doing their job.
And I'm assuming that they're supposed to be promoting the Democrats.
That's what I'm assuming because they're all Democrats.
Why are they putting this into the brains of the public?
They should be putting negative stuff about Trump.
They're dumb.
They are dumb.
They're trying to show hate, misogyny, invective.
Invective.
They're trying to show all this stuff.
What I thought was dynamite, though, and I'll just move on to this, is last night Ted Cruz, he has his, and Cruz had everybody.
He had everybody going.
They were like, okay, all right.
He said, congratulations, Donald Trump.
Had everybody going.
And then pretty soon, you know, people realized, wait a minute, this guy's not going to, Honor his pledge.
He won't honor his pledge.
I actually have a clip of the end of the speech.
Okay.
Where they start booing him.
Which one is that?
Just Ted Cruz?
Yeah, just Ted Cruz.
And soar and make her daddy proud.
We must make the most of our moments to fight for freedom.
He's lost the crowd.
Yeah, big time.
...of those with whom we don't agree, so that when we are old and gray...
We can't listen to the whole thing.
Is there something about the whole thing you want to play?
He just keeps digging worse and worse.
What was beautiful, as he's winding up his speech, it's clear he's not going to give Trump his endorsement or do anything of the kind.
And so then Trump is in the back of the hall...
He's standing there, and I was saying to Tina, I said, what would be beautiful for the Republicans is if Cruz said, hey, you know what, I'm in on the party, I'll support Donald Trump, I've made a pledge, I promise he didn't.
Trump, I'm sure, would have bounded up and hugged him on the stage and made him feel all good and put him on the Supreme Court.
But instead, I think Cruz did something.
Well, I have another take on this.
Because this thing, for one thing, it dragged on and they said it went 23 minutes or something way over time.
Somebody said it was like a filibuster.
He talked very slow.
The analysts went on about it.
But Trump did the ultimate move.
It was perfect.
Like, alright, I'm just going to come in so everyone's going to be happy.
They'll be screaming.
They said that's because Trump was sick of waiting.
try to diffuse it a little bit but i think this is all theater i think that this is i'm put in the red book cruz is going to come out for trump near the end of the campaign oh i like that look like an independent this thing was fake they had the speech in advance that's what gingrich said he said that everyone had this speech two hours they knew he wasn't going to say anything this thing was rigged it's It's a phony deal.
Everyone's bought into it.
And listening to Rachel Maddow's analysis was, why would they let him speak if they knew this speech?
It makes no sense.
They're incompetent.
Do you have a clip of that?
Do you have a clip of that?
I don't.
I did have a clip, but my battery went dead on my little recorder, so I didn't get it.
I can get that clip.
I still have it.
But it was like, as soon as Rachel said that, because she was like a deer in the headlights, sitting next to Williams, and she's going, I don't understand.
I don't understand.
I don't understand why they do this.
Why would they let him speak if he was going to not do what they hoped he was going to do?
And as soon as she said this, ah, there's the dummy in the room.
Now I know what's going on.
The whole thing is a setup.
And Cruz...
It's just acting a part.
And he'll probably still get his Supreme Court thing because he's going to do it at the end when he can get some more news.
This is all for coverage.
And Trump knows that down the road somewhere, coverage is going to slack off.
And that's when Cruz can come out and do his thing and say, I've decided, blah, blah, blah.
And he's going to...
Trump's got to send a lot of flowers to his wife, but this whole thing is rigged.
For an alternative deconstruction, we turn now to the oracle known as The View.
No, this is not The View.
This is...
I had that, actually.
I think this is...
Back to Meyer's thing.
This is Joy Reid again about what she called the power move.
What did you think of Ted Cruz and then Donald Trump walking into the hall?
What did you think of that?
You know, my father was from the Congo.
I thought third world dictatorship because you had this sort of gangster move by Ted Cruz.
Gangster move.
Instead of doing what he was brought there to do, he decides to turn the whole thing around and say, vote your conscience, which is the theme of the Never Trump movement, which was the theme of the first day uprising.
Right.
He gets booed.
Did you hear that?
The first day uprising.
That was the code name or something?
I have no idea what she's talking about.
Well, when they tried to do a roll call vote and make you lose your bet, which you did not, of course, in 20 seconds.
First day uprising.
He gets booed.
The Trump kids are in the front looking surly.
And then Donald Trump is almost like he's going to rush the stage.
Donald Trump makes a move to come in, too.
It was...
And then to contrast that with Marco Rubio, not only completely capitulating, but not even showing up to do it in person, doing it on video.
Yeah, so I think they fell for the trick.
They fell for it.
They fell for it.
And the best analysis of this, I thought, and he was also beside himself, and I never heard Chris Matthews before actually say anything that would be kind of complimentary or say anything that was pro- Republican, but he also fell for it, and he analyzed it.
I think he analyzed it correctly, if it wasn't what I think, which is bullcrap.
But this is Chris Matthews on Cruise, and what he had to say I thought was very good.
A comment like Chris Christie was throwing a death stare up to the stage as well.
What did it feel like on the floor?
Well, I think it's what it felt like watching it.
This is bad behavior by a political figure.
Ted Cruz has a reputation for being unpleasant, but this is going into someone's party and dumping on it.
This is very bad behavior.
The only time in his speech...
Ted Cruz gave there, which he obviously prepared verbatim, was mentioning Donald Trump once and then saying, vote your conscience.
That is political language for I'm releasing you not to vote for their party.
I mean, he was saying to people in the Republican convention, you don't have to vote Republican this time.
It was an incredible, I think, outrageous misuse of his time, but they gave him the time.
It was extraordinary, guys.
Back to you, Brian.
That kind of wrapped it up for me.
Well, two more things.
Actually, one more thing.
Of course, the most exciting moment was when Trump came out with the great lighting effect stage to announce Melania.
And, of course, they're playing We Are the Champions by Queen.
Oh, my God.
The No Agenda producers know how this works.
But everywhere, all over the face bag, Screw these guys.
They should ask permission.
They're stealing it.
They have no permission.
Rolling Stone wrote a whole article about how Queen is, quote, frustrated by Donald Trump after RNC song usage.
Queen posts, we have not given any explicit permission to do so.
Here's CBS. Love him or hate him, you've got to admit, the guy knows how to make an entrance.
But it wasn't the sight of Donald Trump that set the Twittersphere on fire last night.
On fire!
As much as the sounds that accompanied him.
The moment Trump made Freddie Mercury roll over in his grave was one tweet, referencing the contradiction that the nominee of a party whose platform is anti-same-sex marriage would choose a song written and sung by a gay man who died from AIDS. The Rolling Stones, Adele, and R.E.M.'s Michael Stite have all voiced their displeasure at Trump using their songs, but on a night that raised the issue of unauthorized use.
That your worth is your bond.
The Trump campaign's choice of music made for the perfect soundtrack.
CBS is just CIA. Yeah, the CIA Broadcasting Network.
They are not letting up.
I just want to say about this.
For the last time, Donald Trump, he has venues.
He understands how this works.
You get a blanket license from BMI. You get a blanket license from ASCAP. You look at the list.
You say, we're going to play this, and that is completely licensed and legal.
There's nothing, nothing anyone can do about it unless it's seen as an endorsement, which could be confusing to the consumer under the Lanham Act, or if it's libelous.
I mean, it's nothing to do with the rights of the music, but musicians, the Rolling Stone!
Rolling effing stone!
Oh, they have no permission!
Nobody understands the music business.
They do not know how it works.
And of course, Queen is like, well, we're looking at all of our options.
You have no options.
You have no options.
Why are they feeding the public this nonsense?
It doesn't take a genius to know this.
I mean, you just summarized it probably as quickly in 12 seconds that these guys are going on and on.
Luckily, the Washington Post...
I put out an outstanding article which explains exactly that there's no recourse, which shuts a lot of people up because, oh, it's the Washington Post.
It's not Adam.
No, it's the Washington Post.
But it's meant to...
I mean, you heard it.
Like, what?
Freddie Mercury turning over in his grave, this anti-gay party and this hate monger.
He stole the music from the gay guy!
And then CBS... Puts in that little sub-clip of Melania.
Yeah, of course, of course.
Just a pounded home, even though I think it was too subtle for most viewers.
I have a CBS. Here's CBS's report on what I thought was bad.
But this CBS blasts attendance.
Now they're blasting the dollars.
Nobody showed up.
Outside the arena, protests resulted in at least 10 arrests as mounted police moved in on flags burning and other demonstrations just outside the security perimeter.
Scott, one police officer suffered a minor injury and we are told that number of arrests could well rise.
Major Garrett, thanks.
Those protests have been quite a bit smaller and less violent than had been feared at the beginning.
Major Garrett, on the floor of the convention.
You know, you may have noticed there seem to be a lot of empty seats here.
This is the arena in the final half hour last night when the speakers included Dr.
Ben Carson.
Well, this is four years ago.
Again, second night of the convention, last half hour, Chris Christie speaking.
Here it is in 2008, when Senator Joe Lieberman addressed the convention.
And in 2004, when First Lady Laura Bush was speaking.
All of those stadiums held about 20,000 people.
It's not just inside the arena.
Turns out the crowds outside are thin, too.
Here's Juliana Goldman.
The few blocks around the security perimeter feel like a typical convention.
Hats, buttons, and charts!
Vendors selling swag, restaurants crowded with delegates, media, and Republican officials.
But across the rest of this town, it's a different story.
Several blocks away, employees at newly opened Coastal Taco say the supposed RNC economic boon has been a bust.
Okay.
Republicans suck.
They suck, I tell you.
They suck.
Well, what I really missed, and I think this is where we'll be analyzing this all the way through November, is they really did not do enough, the networks, to hammer the crazy racist.
And part of that is...
It has to be just what's the Black Lives Matters.
We talked about it before.
The imagery is just not good now.
Now it looks like they're Black Panthers.
I think people are saying, what's going on with this?
This is a little weird.
We get cops getting shot.
So I think they need to rekindle that if they want to really make any impact.
Because now, and I'm surprised, I'm really surprised they're throwing this all on the they hate gays.
I got two quick...
Then we'll take a break.
This is, again, from the Bill Maher show.
It's just...
It's a wealth of grooviness.
My favorite little story of the convention, there was an outbreak of norovirus.
The one they get at cruise ships.
At the convention, they said, avoid shaking hands.
So if you see the Trump boys, just zig high and walk right on back.
No, marginalized black Republicans and marginalized gay Republicans have to come together and form a new group called the Uncle Tom's Log Cabin Republicans.
Wow, he's calling the black Republicans Uncle Tom's.
That's great.
And, of course, the Log Cabin Republicans are the gay Republicans.
And here's the last one, just on the gay thing, but this is about Mike Pence.
It's about Mike Pence.
I almost forgot about Mike Pence.
Trump announced on Twitter, Mike Pence is his vice presidential choice.
I first heard about this guy a couple of years ago when he came out for religious freedom laws.
These are the laws that allow restaurants not to feed gay people as Jesus would have wanted.
Now, that law does not exist.
It's just not true.
The Restoration of Religious Freedom Act was unnecessary to start with.
We talked about this.
We read the bill.
It's really just a reiteration of the religious freedom.
It was unnecessary.
It was really like, ooh, we got it in there.
It was...
Dumb.
But they then made that even clearer by saying you cannot refuse to feed gay people.
So it's just a lie.
He may be dumb, he may not know it, but it's just a lie.
He hates all the right things.
He's a total climate denier.
Climate change denier.
That's not happening.
Really bad on abortion.
Hates the poor.
What does that mean, really bad on abortion?
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means.
It's just really bad.
Super hates gay people.
Super hates gay people.
He's here for gay conversion therapy, you know, where you pray away the gay, because that works.
Pray away the gay.
He says kids from a heterosexual family with two heterosexual parents come out healthier and more stable, like the healthy stable guy at the top of the ticket.
And against gay marriage, against don't ask, don't tell in the military, he's gay, right?
I mean, nobody who is this anti-gay has ever...
We shouldn't be playing so many clips.
Let's move on then.
I do want to say he did miss the opportunity to say when he condemned Trump for being a bad family man, which nobody's buying that.
He could have dropped in the crazy racist.
They didn't miss it.
I don't know.
I think they're also afraid to do it.
No, I think you're wrong.
Oh.
They don't know this.
Scott Adams seems to be the one who picked it up and nobody reads him.
That's incredible, isn't it?
Well, the thing that we've picked up on the most probably is they are, and that may also not be, it's probably not intentional, but the pro-Hillary networks, they're all showing the memes that associate in your brain that she's a witch, she's a liar, she should be in prison, and they keep showing it.
I know.
The witch thing is ridiculous.
They shouldn't even bring it up.
You don't hear the pro-Trump people talking about him being a crazy racist.
It's unbelievable.
I'm very excited about the Democratic Convention next week.
I cannot wait.
That's going to be a gem.
I think it's going to be fabulous.
Cannot wait to see what they come up with.
I think they're going to try and take the high road, which will be boring.
No, they can't do that.
They're going to have to...
Hillary's going to come out with her screaming.
She screams like...
I have this one last clip.
This is Hillary on jobs.
Just play this clip.
And there she is yelling again.
Okay.
We're going to have a lot of jobs.
Jobs from building infrastructure to...
Coding!
To coding!
I'm not quite sure what it is, but coding!
We're going to bring jobs, building jobs, and coding!
Let me tell you, that is such an insult to software developers, or anyone who is a developer, a software developer.
It's an insult.
Coding!
Learn to code!
Hour of code!
Yeah, I think so too.
She has no idea what she's talking about.
You have to take an hour to code.
Code every day for an hour.
That's right.
We can all be coding.
Well, with that for now, I'd like to thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C with the C stands for Convention Pundit Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feed the air subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to everybody in the chat room.
Of course, that's noagendastream.com.
Good to see you all there.
And in the morning to our artists.
Today, we would like to thank Scuba Steve, who created the album artwork for episode 843 today.
Title of that was Save the Date.
And this was a nice one.
This was the to-do list.
This was for Erdogan's so-called coup.
Check boxes.
Arrest the president.
Cut electricity.
Shut down the internet.
It would fit in perfectly.
Made us laugh.
And we encourage everyone to go to knowagendaartgenerator.com.
Check it out.
Fun stuff.
Submit something if you want to.
It's really appreciated.
I saw people like that one so much there was at least two variations I saw on Twitter where they took the thing and then added different memes to the checkbox.
Yeah, like to-do list, flat earth, Mandela effect.
Thanks.
Yeah, good stuff.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
We do have an insta-night.
Oh!
Which is nice, Pamela.
Insta-dame.
I'm sorry, Instadame.
Pamela Hogg, I guess, H-A-G-G, in Allegheny, New York, $1,000.
I'd like to thank you for your deconstruction of the media.
I have to say that since I was hit in the mouth, my life has changed for the better.
We hear this a lot.
I was on the extreme liberal, so we got a liberal to come over.
Come over to...
We're not even in the middle.
We're in a different dimension.
That's right.
I was on the extreme liberal side and was turning into a basket case.
Oh, no.
It happens.
It happens.
I have friends like this.
I feel they lose bets to me easily.
Have you talked to Markov from the New York Times?
They both know.
We've been going back and forth on the text messaging.
And then I see upcoming new bets to make.
I'm going to just double down.
I think this is a new career for you.
Every four years I make good money.
No, it should be more like betting against the Obots!
It's just a thought.
Anyway, I feel a sense of resolve I haven't felt in years, she writes.
I would like to thank my friend Christy Muckensturm.
For turning me on to the show.
Please send a little karma her way while she travels with her young children from Texas to visit me and my family in New York.
Absolutely.
She'd like to be known simply as Dame Pamela if it hasn't already been taken.
I don't think I've heard anyone by that name.
I don't think so either.
I don't think so either.
I look forward to the ceremony.
You've got karma.
Thank you very much, Pamela.
Nice.
That actually saved us today.
Yeah, it did.
It was good.
I appreciate it.
Ethan Smith in Lexington, Kentucky, 333.33.
I apologize for my douchebaggery.
Over the last year, first of all, I must request jobs karma for Princess Lou this Friday.
I've been waiting until I could donate 333.33 and bring my total contributions to 666.66.
I listen to each voice, a minimum of four, each voice, each show.
I listen to each show a minimum of four times.
I'm going to read that again.
That's 12 hours dedicated to each show.
I listen to each show a minimum of four times.
You probably would get a lot out of it if you listen more than once because we have a lot of subtleties.
A lot of people listen at work when they're just doing stuff and then they do go back and listen again to certain things.
I've heard this.
At least one show a day, I'll never be able to truly give you the value to give me.
Adam, you are like my cool uncle who's always down to smoke.
Hey!
Hey!
Hey, man!
I'm down to smoke!
Hey, man!
Pass the doobie, dude!
John, you are the grandfather I never had.
And you will never have one like it.
I thank you both for your courage.
I'm a broke college dropout trying to make it worth it.
Jeez, I don't know why I can't read this.
I think it's because of the background.
Make it with my photography and stand-up comedy.
We've got a comedian in the audience.
Excellent.
I have three douchebags to call out.
Okay.
One of which...
Is a confirmed man overboard?
Oh no.
Douchebag Liam Darby.
Douchebag!
Then we have Ryan Lee.
Okay.
Douchebag!
And Jay Hamilton.
Douchebag!
And he's the man overboard.
I've also been saving this combo for a while.
A John yeah yeah yeah man followed by a whoopee get out of my vagina followed by another John yeah yeah yeah man.
Is it yeah, yeah, yeah, man?
I don't know what that...
I think there's something I vaguely remember about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Hmm.
No, no, no.
Yeah, I don't think that's the one she means exactly.
No, I think she means...
Or she...
Ethan.
Oh, Ethan.
Yeah.
I think it's the yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he's hearing a man in there that wasn't one.
Okay.
And a Jobs?
Is that...
No, followed by a whoopee.
Get out of my vagina, then another yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Get out of my vagina!
yeah yeah yeah yeah you've got karma - There you go.
He's been waiting for that, and now he's sorely disappointed.
I hope not, but now what can you do?
Mike Merva in Youngstown, Ohio, drops down to 23456 and becomes an associate executive producer for show 3844.
We start with three, you notice that?
844.
844, I've not donated in a while and since I received two different signs in the same week that he feels obliged to donate.
The first one being our Cracker Barrel dinner bill coming out to $33.33.
And by the way, they're serving something at Cracker Barrel that amounts to this because we have had this going out to us before.
Remember?
Yeah.
And it was Cracker Barrel.
It's like the Pikachu of No Agenda.
Coming out to $33.33 and my new eyeglass purchase was $333.33.
That was more than enough to tell me to pony up to the TBPITU with the summer of chaos in full swing.
I cannot thank you both enough with your deconstructions and analysis.
It feels like you've given me the gift of sanity.
The gift of sanity.
I kindly ask you please accept my donation and keep up the outstanding work.
Yeah, we will make it so.
I kindly request the following.
J.C.D. Peeve for his constant gripes about the low donations.
A de-douching and some jobs karma.
Alright, here we go.
John C. Devorak's pet peeve of the day.
You've been de-douched.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
Alright, nice.
And then we drop down to...
Okay, I don't know.
Just a little intermediate.
Did you get a note or a check from Sir Chris Back of the No Agenda Brewers Guild?
Uh...
I'll tell you why.
Yeah, I believe so.
For 3-3-3-3-3?
Uh...
Well, I'll tell you why.
So I received yesterday, and this was interesting.
There was a package, it was a U.S. Postal Service package, and it was wrapped in kind of like a whitish, almost, but a little clear through, garbage bag.
And it was sitting in the package room here at the crackpot condo.
So I get that out, and immediately I know what's going on, because it was bottles of beer of which, as I opened it up, turned out two had broken in transit.
So this box was just dripping with beer.
I mean, yay for the postal service.
I mean, they could have easily thrown it out, you know, sent a summons to our good night there, the No Agenda Brewers Guild, because you can't send alcohol through the mail.
But they didn't.
They just put it into a bag, let it leak out.
I was like, that's kind of cool.
At least I got it.
Yeah, the post office is good.
But there's a lot.
He had a note, and it was completely dripping wet.
And it's no agenda beers.
It's fantastic.
Homebrew with no agenda labels on it.
And he said, I hope this beer will help when things get too tense.
Can you give us all some karma?
And it was all stuck together.
But maybe this was a check, but it no longer looks like a check because it's all wet.
FYI, a similar box and check for $33.33 was sent to John.
So you may just not have received it yet, I guess.
If it was sent to the box, people should ask for my home address for stuff like this.
And the reason why he knew he had to donate is he said, I was cooking a spatchcock smoked chicken for the 4th of July, then later heard your spatchcock episode.
Karma was speaking to me.
Yeah.
So I'm going to give him Karma, even though we don't know.
Well, we'll wait for it to come in.
I just want to let him know.
You've got Karma.
Four of the six beers arrived.
That's appreciated.
Onward.
That was Mike Merva.
Merva.
Gordon Ulig in Pioneer, California, $211.11.
And he says, I love the show.
Give me some boom shakalaka.
Maybe a whoop-em with the Constitution from the 95666, which is, I guess, a zip code.
Oh, that's it?
Yeah, that's all we got.
Okay.
What was that?
That's a Manning, isn't it?
Yeah, Manning with a whoop-um-whoop-um-whoop-um.
Let's see, we can first play this one.
Sorry, I wasn't reading ahead close enough there.
Here we go.
Dingo.
Boom. Boom. Chagalack. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Chagalack. Boom. Boom. Boom. Get out there. Whooping. Whooping. Whooping. Whooping. Whooping. Whooping. Whooping. Whooping.
What the Constitution.
Down.
Bam!
There you go.
Thea Bachman in, let Noakesville?
Noakesville, Virginia.
$200.
We got a happy birthday to my husband, Nicholas.
Samaras of Noakesville, Virginia.
Please put this towards his knighthood as he's an avid listener.
I believe he would like to be known as Sir Douche Baggins.
Once he achieves this spectacular goal, please play a Don't Eat Me, Hillary, and then this cuts off.
So maybe a karma?
I'll just put a karma in it.
Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
You've got karma.
And then finally we have Ronald Beavis in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
$200.
And I looked and looked and looked and looked and looked and there's no note, so I assume he just sent it to $200.
I'll double check.
We do have another one, the last one there.
Well, next we have Joshua Milos.
Yeah, you're right.
That $200 in Hayward, right down the street from me, actually.
Actually.
I used to bowl at the Holiday Bowl.
It's been a year since, which I think it's still there.
My last donation, July 4th, 2015.
And once again, I'm passing along my meager spot bonus from my employer to the show.
Oh, thank you.
That's a small thank you for the hours of entertainment you provide.
Please keep up the good work.
And he likes a jingle of dealer's choice.
Feel free to pick on my behalf.
I'm always amazed at the other producers' creativity and would be embarrassed with what other selection I might provide.
Why don't you give it a go?
Tell me what you like.
You know what I like?
Hug and share a secret, which is going to be next week.
All next week.
You mean the Democratic convention?
Yeah, okay.
And I'll do a little, I'll just do a jobs karma as well.
I don't know if people are looking forward or not.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
Nice!
Bingo, boom!
And that's it.
Yeah, that's it.
Okay.
Which is good.
Like the well-wishers.
Yes, like the well-wishers.
Love the incident.
Thank all of our executive producers and associate executive producers for stepping up today.
Really appreciate that.
Of course, I'll be thanking everybody later on in the second segment, $50 or above.
And again, thank you for allowing us to do this.
My ass is flat.
That's how long I've been just sitting, watching multiple screens.
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I just need to move to something completely different just to clear the air a little bit.
Well, I mean, you want to stop talking about the convention?
I only have one clip that's really important to play.
Oh, if it's really important, then we shall play it.
Yeah, this is the idiot from Nevada clip.
Does it need setup?
You'll hear it.
Well, you might, for people out there that don't know, that the capital of Nevada, and this guy's the head of the GOP in Nevada, the capital of Nevada, for anyone who wants to know, is Carson City.
It's not Las Vegas, that's for sure.
Introducing Chairman Michael J. McDonald.
Woo!
Mr.
Chairman, thank you.
From the gray state of Nevada, where blue lives matter!
Woo!
We are battle-born, brought in by the first Republican president in 1864.
We're very proud of our nation.
From the great shores of Lake Tahoe to the most entertaining capital city, Las Vegas, Nevada.
This time, what's said in Las Vegas, will not stay in Las Vegas.
We are here to cast our votes.
Your warts, cast your warts.
From the capital of Nevada.
That's sad.
That's very sad.
It is sad.
Yeah.
28 Pages, of course, was released right at the beginning of all of this, so this has been completely snowed under.
Not a lot of talk about the 28 Pages.
I have never seen such a smart move in my life.
They were just waiting.
These 28 Pages are scandalous, and everybody knew they were going to be scandalous, and everybody wanted them to come.
So they brought them out and just played it beautifully.
RT has been, of course, paying attention to what's happening.
They got an interview or a soundbite with Senator Bob Graham, who was on the 9-11 Commission, although when you hear him talk, it sounds like he's talking about something he had no involvement in.
And just to be clear, the 28 pages were part of the report, not 28 pages removed from the final 9-11 Commission report, but from the 800 pages they received.
And it is indeed quite damning.
But here's Bob Graham.
There are several theories as to why the Bush administration would have wanted to have classified and kept from public view information that might have been...
Somewhere between embarrassing and the cause of reassessment of our relationship with Saudi Arabia.
And you remember that both Bush and Cheney testified not under oath and in a closed session.
And here's Graham just saying, I was really strange, I have no idea.
Please, you lying sack.
And then the kind of analysis you'd expect, although this guy was...
He's kind of like a Bill Nye-type guy.
This is a lawyer who...
He was only introduced by his first name, Lionel.
He may not have a last name.
Lionel is actually one of the last guys in the country.
This was a popular...
Thing that was done, 70s, 80s, I'm not sure.
We had a couple of guys in the Bay Area that did this.
They would, at the end of the news hour, they would come out and do an editorial.
And it started with the station managers.
They used to come out and do an editorial at the end of the news hour.
And we think that we should put in more pools for the kids.
And then they brought a comedian in, or a kind of comedian, who could do kind of editorials with a punchline.
And Lionel is the guy from one of the stations, one of the last stations that still does this.
Nobody does it on the West Coast that I know of.
And he does it for one of the New York stations.
I'm not sure which one, WNY or some, I don't know which station, or WABC, I'm not sure.
But Lionel is still doing this bit.
And somehow Russia Today, maybe they got fired, maybe he doesn't do it anymore, but Russia Today dug him up and they use him.
The first hurdle will be the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act of 1976, which provides that citizens of the United States can sue foreign countries, foreign governments, in certain circumstances.
Now, let's assume, arguendo for the sake of argument, that there is enough of a connection there.
Saudi Arabia could say this proves nothing, but let's assume there is.
The question then is, can they sue?
Can they sue Saudi Arabia?
Not only that, the insurance companies, first responders, just imagine this list of individuals who would have a claim.
The question then would be, would the United States be able to, or a federal court, be able to seize Saudi assets prior to To the conclusion of the lawsuit.
Then we get into litigation.
Let's assume further that Saudi Arabia says, are you sure you really want to get into facts that might be embarrassing?
Now, in May of this year, there was a bill that was passed in the Senate that would provide American citizens the ability to secure Funds, liability from Saudi Arabia.
That will probably be vetoed by the President.
It also has a lot of loopholes where it can be stopped if anybody claims that this is a matter of national security.
But Ed, this is what's really the most important.
We're going to see a change from warfare to lawfare.
And what happens then if another country says, you know, U.S., you've inspired us.
I represent a Yemeni family who was hit by one of your drones.
I represent families, and we're going to use this same legal apparatus to go after you.
He's not a comedian anymore, but he did explain one aspect of it.
The aspect he should be talking about is who needs to go to jail, the criminal court.
Right.
But for some reason, they're not quite on that tip yet.
Oh, John, something horrible happened last night.
Okay.
Helen Thomas passed away.
Yes, she did.
Helen Thomas.
92.
Bad timing, because there's no one around to make packages.
And she was thrown out.
Thrown out of the White House press corps.
She'd been there since JFK, I believe.
No, no, before that.
Really?
She goes way back.
I think she goes back to Eisenhower.
Eisenhower?
It could be Eisenhower.
And if you recall, when President Obama and the Obama administration came in, and she was always front row, front seat, very critical of...
I mean, every president was...
Do you remember how he was kind of like, she was kind of forced to resign, and she was asking a whole bunch of really uncomfortable questions when President Obama first got in, and then she got railroaded with some guy who stuck a camera in her face, and this went viral.
This is how she lost her job, or what made her retire.
Any advice for these young people over here for starting out in the press corps?
Go for it.
They'll never be unhappy.
You'll always keep people informed and you'll always keep learning.
That's the greatest thing of the profession.
Never stop learning.
Today they're covering the Jewish Heritage Month.
Any comments on Israel?
- Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine.
- Ooh.
- Ooh. - Any comments? - Remember, these people are occupied.
And it's their land.
It's not German, it's not Poland.
So where should they go?
Where should they go?
They go home.
Where's the home?
Poland.
Germany.
So the Jews go back to Poland and Germany?
And America and everywhere else.
Why push people out of there who have lived there for centuries?
Now, are you familiar with the history of that region?
Very much.
I'm a Arab background.
I see.
And that was the end of her career.
Boom, done.
She had to resign.
And it was at a time when there was a lot of, hey, let's not, don't make any trouble with Muslims, you know, Jews.
This is not a conversation we want to have right now.
It was very like, oh, man.
Um...
I think Judy did a wrap-up, if you want to hear that, of her death.
Sure.
Helen Thomas issued a statement saying, quote, I'm sorry, this is not her death.
This was the analysis after she resigned.
So this was seven or eight years ago.
Helen Thomas issued a statement saying, quote, I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians.
They do not reflect my heartfelt belief that peace will come to the Middle East or Only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance may that day come soon, she wrote.
By Monday morning, Helen Thomas had been dropped by her public speaking agency.
At his daily news briefing, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs condemned the comments, calling them offensive and reprehensible.
Helen Thomas, who had a front row seat in the briefing room for many years, was not present.
Shortly afterwards, Hearst newspapers announced Helen Thomas was retiring, effective immediately.
They wrote, quote, It's pretty amazing that today you can say that and you won't get fired.
I think.
You might be right.
Well, check this out.
This is something I just noticed.
And I noticed it...
This is MSNBC. I noticed it when...
Rachel Maddow was on Jimmy Fallon.
And I actually stayed up and wanted to see it.
And she's a dick.
I mean, she comes out and she's like...
She's on drugs.
So she's completely tripping out, all fast-talking.
And then she said something about the Nice terror attack, which got my attention.
I have a lot to discuss with you.
A lot going on.
There's a lot going on.
I mean, the awful terrorist attack, obviously, in France.
Do we know any new news from that?
No.
Not really.
I mean, the main thing that everybody was thinking about initially was, was it one person acting alone?
And as far as we know, at this point, we still think it was one person acting alone.
At least they haven't named other people.
They also want to know if he was either directed by or inspired by some terrorist group.
They know of, at least thus far in the investigation, they haven't talked about any connections like that or any signs that he was radicalized.
His dad says he was a little nuts, said had some mental health issues.
So, I mean, honestly, we don't know much about the perpetrator.
Maybe that's not important.
I mean, maybe the most important thing is how many people lost their lives.
So this maybe it's not important where she goes through, you know, 40, 45 seconds of, well, you know, he might have been not.
But what she did not say is, well, it seems like he was a terrorist attack.
But maybe it's not important.
We don't really know what he was thinking, except for the reports of what he did and what he said.
But we don't really know.
It's interesting you caught that.
Well, wait for this.
This is a collage of two different collages stuck together.
All MSNBC that you're hearing, the people you hear are either with CARE, there's Muslimas, it's all about...
Muslim terror, and just listen to this collage.
Good job, happy family, just recently got married.
We're all waiting for the results of the investigation to know what the real motives are.
What would have made someone snap like that?
At this point, we really don't know what their motives are.
Even though you don't know what the motive was on this attack, has there been any discussion about increasing security?
There have been calls by ISIS to increase its activity, increase its presence in Bangladesh.
So again, we don't know the motivation of this attack.
Motivation is just somebody whose life was kind of out of control and took it out on everybody?
But we've seen examples of that.
San Bernardino may in fact have been a hybrid act of terrorism slash workplace violence.
Our kids are hearing this rhetoric.
We have people, mosques being vandalized, kids being executed.
The future leadership of our country potentially can be people who think that they can mass murder civilians across the world.
To try to understand this current cycle of violence, one of the reasons Palestinians will always say is the humiliation and frustration that these young people are experiencing.
We are disgustingly biased when it comes to this issue.
Look at how many air time Netanyahu and his folks have on air.
Why is it that Muslims and other immigrants in Belgium have such a problem integrating with local society?
Why is it that they do not feel like they are Belgian?
Why is it that they are ghettoized into these communities?
What's a greater threat?
To civilization, Christian extremism, Jewish extremism, or Muslim extremism?
I would not say any of those.
I would not say radical Islam is the greatest threat to civilization today.
Again, you're looking at a very specific time in the history of humanity.
What about when the Crusades were taking place, invading the world?
What people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims as he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment.
Wait, but it's killing sprees.
When Chris Kyle was going on killing sprees?
So whatever it is, we don't know the motivation.
This is just crazy people.
And by the way, white crazy people or Christians are crazier.
This is MSNBC. Yeah, Comcast should be ashamed of itself for supporting this bogus network.
I think so.
That's really quite egregious.
Yeah.
The Apologist Network.
I don't know.
But whatever it is, we really don't know the motivation.
Well, again, it's like, what kind of analysis is this?
It's zero analysis.
Zero.
From them.
I did find one more clip from the convention that I want to play.
I collected funny stuff.
I got a few.
Maybe.
This is like one of Trump's buddies.
That nominated him.
I don't have his name in front of me.
But I just thought this was the way to go.
If you're going to do material when you're up there, and I think more people should have been funny or they could have made some...
I noticed this.
Like one of the Trump kids, they knocked it out of the park.
The kids were very good public speakers.
Donald Trump Jr.
is...
Future president.
That's exactly right.
The new Camelot.
It's Camelot.
Future president.
The next person comes out, and they make no acknowledgement.
They just start blabbing.
They don't say, well, that was a great speech, or what I would have said with a couple of these, I would have said, holy mackerel, I have to follow that?
Say something.
They said nothing.
Nobody seemed to be able to ad lib a gag.
Now, this is the funny guy nominating Trump.
I am so happy to be here.
With you, I asked Peggy, my wife, if she had ever in her wildest dreams seen me standing here nominating Donald Trump for president.
And Peggy said, and I quote, I hate to tell you, but I've never seen you in any of my wildest dreams.
I just thought that was cute.
That was interesting.
Oh, funny guy.
Let's see.
I mean, everyone was on location, so a lot of this stuff is, you know, a lot of stuff I have was based in and around pretty much the convention.
And it kind of ruined the news flow for the whole week.
It did.
Just to show you one example of something that would have, I thought...
Would have gotten all kinds of coverage, but seemed to only show up on Russia today.
This story, this one here, Syrian allies cut off a kid's head.
Yes.
Yeah, this is a good one.
For now, the U.S. may reconsider its support for Syrian rebels after members from an Aleppo-based group called Nur al-Din al-Zenki recorded themselves beheading a 10-year-old Palestinian child.
The State Department has vowed, quote, consequences if the gruesome videos are proven.
The videos are too disturbing to be shown.
It is disturbing.
I, of course, have seen it, and that is, for all I can see, a real beheading on one of these...
It's like a real beheading with a cell phone camera and...
It's nuts.
And that did come up in the state...
Sorry?
There's the follow-up clip, which is the State Department comment.
Ah, you have this very good...
Where is it?
Syrian...
Oh, Kirby, Kirby, Kirby, got it.
If we can prove that this was indeed what happened and this group was involved in it, I think it would certainly give us pause.
It would give you pause?
It would give us pause about any assistance or, frankly, any further involvement with this group.
Washington's reaction comes in response to two videos that emerged online showing the brutal beheading of a little boy who the rebels said was an Assad spy.
Anur al-Din al-Zanghi is one of the so-called moderate opposition groups that enjoy U.S. support, despite widespread human rights concerns.
Yeah, give it to us, RT. Yeah, they're really not going to do much with that.
They're laying back.
You know, let me see.
There were a couple other things we had.
Hillary was on Charlie Rose during the convention, which, of course, is what everyone who is interested in her will have switched over.
And we should mention, right in the middle of the convention, CBS again.
Yep.
Cuts away and goes to this interview with Hillary.
Please!
Here's a little snippet from it.
You believe Donald Trump is dangerous?
You believe Donald Trump is not fit to be president?
I think he has shown that he is dangerous.
In what way?
I saw in an article, a long article.
That Donald Trump being near the nuclear code would pose a danger to civilization.
This whole sentence is great.
Being near the nuclear code.
It used to be a finger on the button, now it's near the nuclear code.
Get your metaphor straight, people.
that Donald Trump being near the nuclear code would pose a danger to civilization.
And you agree with that.
And I do agree with that, Charlie.
And I don't look, I don't say that lightly and I don't say it with any satisfaction.
Donald Trump with his finger on a nuclear bomb would be.
Now it's his finger on a nuclear bomb.
Just the tip.
I'm just touching the tip.
Donald Trump with his finger on a nuclear bomb would be a threat to civilization.
What he has laid out is the most dangerous, reckless approach to being president than I think we've ever seen.
And I say that knowing...
The most dangerous man ever to run for president of the United States.
I believe that.
Oh, yeah.
The most dangerous man ever!
Ever to run!
Yeah, to the establishment, perhaps.
Again, they're blowing it without focusing on one thing.
Now, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, of course, you know, she's fun to look at.
She's fun.
I like looking at her when she's all flustered.
She was on Fox Business with the original Money Honey Maria Bartiromo.
And Maria just plowing ahead.
The trustworthiness obviously has been an issue for Hillary Clinton.
She did lie to Congress when she said that she sent all the emails.
We know the 30,000 emails.
Jim Comey told us that she in fact lied to Congress.
So that's one issue.
Did she lie to the face of the fatalities?
Did she lie to the families of those people who died in Benghazi?
Did she lie to their face?
First of all, she did not lie to Congress.
She released 55,000 pages of emails and has been utterly transparent.
Jim Comey said she didn't release them all.
Well, there's certainly a difference of opinion, and that certainly doesn't lead to declaring, as you just did, that there was a pattern of factual inaccuracies.
The bottom line is, you look at what Ambassador Stevens' sister said.
I mean, his own family member said that there was nothing...
Nice you can't even remember the name of the ambassador who was killed.
Nice to see you.
His own family member said that there was nothing that she felt that Hillary Clinton did that could have changed the situation or really laid blame at the feet of anyone other than a dangerous situation, which Ambassador Stevens knew and probably would have gone into even if...
Yeah, sure.
I'm sure.
She's still running it.
I think it's great how they just go all out.
Well, she's going to be great to watch, because she's the chairman.
Yeah, of course.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun to watch her.
Flustered, yes.
But going back to the CBS thing, with bringing in a Hillary interview right in the middle of the convention, they also had some coverage, and the thing you want to watch when you watch CBS is just watch Nora O'Donnell, who's a very attractive female, but she...
She's actually worse than Gwen Ifill, who is a geographer for Obama, so she's all in as a Democrat.
But O'Donnell is just, she just gets herself all worked up.
Meanwhile, because I do this analysis trying to figure out what network's doing what, ABC, there was an interview, a private interview with Trump and Stephanopoulos.
And Stephanopoulos, who is a Clinton operative, Never liked Clinton, and he said nasty things about him being a sociopath.
You mean he never liked Clinton or never liked Trump?
He never liked Clinton.
He's the one that came out and said all kinds of really mean-spirited stuff.
Stephanopoulos?
Yes!
You can have to dig it up, but there's a bunch of good quotes on him talking about Bill being a sociopath.
But he still works for them somehow, or worked with them.
And he was charmed by Trump because he came back to the set with just glowing.
Apparently Trump can, you know, if you're off camera, it's supposed to be funny.
I've never seen any evidence of that, but it's possible.
So I think there's ABC is slowly going into the Trump camp.
CBS says the CIA is firmly in the Hillary camp.
And meanwhile...
CBS has taken a clue, I think, from ABC, and talk about being disingenuous.
They're doing native ads, and I have two examples.
I could be wrong.
Which one do you want first for clue?
Well, let's do the first ad.
This is a CBS, what I believe to be a native ad for clue.
Nobody else covered this story, by the way.
...a suit, a parachute, and a bag with $200,000.
Some of the money was found, but he never was.
And there's a development tonight in another long-running mystery.
Who committed the murder in the mansion in the popular board game Clue?
For the first time since Clue was introduced in 1949, Hasbro is replacing one of the suspects.
Mrs.
White is out.
Dr.
Orchid is in.
She is a biologist with a Ph.D. in plant toxicology.
Certainly sounds guilty.
And we'll be right back.
Yeah, that's definitely...
Do you think they got paid for it, or was it just a bumper just to throw it out there?
At this point, I don't believe these networks are doing anything without getting paid for it.
Anything for free.
No, I agree.
Why would you do it?
This was an obvious promotion, and they went overboard.
Now, they did another one.
This was when I believe the real...
the beneficiary of this particular story was Netflix, but it's possible that there's other...
You don't know who's...
This may be one of these things, and I've seen this happen...
I was out with one of the publishers I know, and he was on a sales call.
And this was with Computer Shopper, I believe.
And I was in the room, and I was watching him do his pitch.
And one of the things he did, which I thought was very interesting, because I've never seen anyone do it quite like this, but I believe this is being done by the network's.
He'd go to a guy who's going to sell him some space.
He brings the magazine in front of him and he flips through and he says, here's what your competition is doing.
And he has all these things.
They got a two-page thing.
Then here's your other competition.
They got a two-page.
Here's your other competition.
They got a three-page spread.
And right one after the other, he shows them, this is what these guys are doing.
What do you want to do?
And here's what we can do for you.
And then he has all these ideas.
And so you would do that.
It would be selling one against the other.
It was fantastic.
It was sold.
He sold a big pile of ads with this pitch.
And so I had the first thing that came to mind when I heard this particular clip coming up.
This is the CBS, and I believe it's for Netflix, but it could be for all of them.
Well, shutters went through the Internet world today on word that people who share their passwords for subscription services might be prosecuted.
But it turned out this had come from a federal judge who was expressing only his opinion in a criminal appeal.
Folks who share passwords for Netflix can relax.
CEO Reed Hastings said back in January, we love people sharing Netflix.
Wow, that would be a very smart...
That would be a good one, actually, if that was an ad.
Because Netflix, yeah, you can set up accounts for the kids, your different logins.
A lot of people don't know you can share accounts in a family.
Well, you can.
Well, it could be a native ad.
Well, I know this is a more sketchy one.
I have a follow-up, not today, but a follow-up to this particular news item just to show you...
Another element to both native advertising and lying on television.
Well, something else happened amidst all of the commotion that is the political arena.
And I believe it ties into the Clintons.
And I'm not sure why it's happening now.
Here's the report.
Two people familiar with the matter say a senior manager at HSBC was arrested in New York for his role in a conspiracy to rig currency benchmarks.
For more, we're joined by Bloomberg Legal and Financial Regulation Executive Editor Winnie O'Kelly.
Winnie, this is breaking really in the last 30 minutes or so.
Let's just start from the top.
What have we learned?
So we know Mark Johnson, who was the head of the Global FX at HSBC, was flying into JFK last night.
John F. Kennedy, he was apprehended and arrested.
We're expecting charges shortly.
We understand it's going to be wire fraud.
And it is related to the Forex currency investigation that the Department of Justice has been working on for at least three years now.
It's been really hard to bring charges against individuals.
Of course, the big banks they settled with.
HSBC was not part of that settlement.
At the moment, I don't know.
But one of my questions is, of course, did he have any idea he was being targeted?
That's what we're looking to find out.
The next question really is how widespread this is and how much further we have to go.
These kind of issues take a long, long time to play out.
We've had a few settlements.
Now we've got some personal ones as well.
How long do you think this takes from here?
Well, it's a good question.
I mean, one of the questions has been just how much effort the Department of Justice is going to put into this.
Bringing charges against people who were foreign traders is really hard in the U.S. Gathering evidence is difficult, bringing that evidence back to the U.S. This guy was working out of London.
And in London, prosecutors have a very hard time making cases and making them sticks against individuals.
So what's going to happen here?
We're not really sure.
We're curious to know how many more are to come.
That's still very much up in the air.
But just this week, the not...
The prosecutors, but the Fed barred someone else, Matthew Gardner, UBS, from ever working in banking again because of his role in these activities.
Winnie, the company, the stock, dropped initially on the back of the news and then it snapped back.
Is there a sense that we're at a stage in an investigation where it's less about the company and more about individuals from here?
That's generally what's been true, yes.
Okay.
Now, here's the stuff we need to know.
So in 2012, and this report came out a month ago or so, there was no way to prosecute HSBC at the time because, and this is from the, I believe, the Treasury.
Well, we couldn't do that because if we had prosecuted HSBC, then the entire economy would have fallen apart.
We couldn't do it.
And now it looks like they're doing something.
Of course, Comey is involved.
It's FBI who is doing this.
Now, the backdrop to this is that HSBC had Jim Comey as a board member.
And he came in after the money laundering scandals, but I think around the same time as a lot.
We had the 4X, we had the LIBOR, or the URIBOR, both actually.
All being faked by traitors and other bad actors, mainly inside HSBC. What's interesting is there's a lot of research coming to the top now that money was funneled from HSBC into the Clinton Foundation.
So a couple things could be happening.
One, this is Comey continuing with what he will not admit to, which is perhaps there is a Clinton Foundation investigation.
And, you know, kind of under the radar, but bring somebody in.
Or it could be exactly the opposite, of course.
It could be to take the bad actors out so that they can eliminate any connection between HSBC and the Clinton Foundation.
But it's of note that this happened.
It's kind of quiet.
I haven't seen a complaint yet from the FBI. We have to understand what's going on.
But there's moves and something is up.
We do not throw bankers in jail.
No.
So for this to happen all of a sudden, something's up.
Well, if Hillary gets in, it's not going to be a problem.
Yeah, but I don't know if that's going to happen.
So while we're talking about any of this, we should at least, because I promised I'd discuss it, at least on the Twitter feed, Hillary's VP selection.
Yes, yes, which will be announced tomorrow, I believe.
I think if she was smart, she'd announce it today.
I said this because it would overshadow Trump's speech.
Yeah, so again, I think they're fouling up.
I saw one of the Castro brothers here in Texas in an interview doing an audition.
Let's talk about Donald Trump.
This is Jorge talking to Julian Castro.
The Democrats in Austin love these brothers.
Let's talk about Donald Trump.
Are you afraid that he might win?
I'm not.
More and more Americans are seeing what kind of a fraud Donald Trump is, and he's shown himself in this campaign not to be somebody that unites Americans, but somebody that divides them.
Somebody who has called for a religious litmus test, a ban on Muslims, obviously has insulted immigrants, has Mocked the disabled.
He has scoffed at POWs.
So it's very clear that Americans understand that he's just not fit to be president.
In fact, I saw a poll the other day that said over 60% of Americans believe that he's unqualified to be president.
I think he's throwing his hat in the ring and he's a possibility to come out of left field, but you have other thoughts, I believe.
Well, I'm looking at all the people.
I'm trying to come up with a list, which I had on my other machine.
One thing's for sure.
It's not going to be Elizabeth Warren.
Everyone can get that out of their head.
That's not going to happen.
Yeah, no, that's not going to be.
There's a bunch of guys.
Cory Booker's one of them.
Yeah, yeah.
This guy, this character's one of them.
Here's what I'm looking at.
Let me ask you a question.
We know what Trump is looking for, and I think he got it.
He wants an operator.
It's how he runs business.
He's going to be the CEO. He will need someone to operate.
What is Hillary looking for?
Well, she says she's looking at someone that could take her place at the drop of a hat as though she's going to have a heart attack as soon as she gets elected.
That's what she said.
Right.
But that could be just Hillary saying whatever she feels like because I think she's, you know, I don't know what she's looking for.
I think she's looking for balance on the ticket.
Now, the way I see it, I'm looking at everybody on all the tickets I've seen and there's all kinds of reasons you might not pick this guy or that guy.
Here's what I think her problem is.
Everybody, except for one guy, Gavin Newsom.
Is he the mayor of San Francisco?
No, no, he was the mayor of San Francisco.
He's been the lieutenant governor of California for the last couple of terms.
He's been there for a while.
And I met this guy.
He is the slickest, and he also looks a little like...
Treat Williams, kind of.
He's got that slick.
Yeah, handsome.
Handsome, handsome dude.
Handsome, slick.
He was married to Guilfoyle, the leggy.
Really?
Yeah, that was, I think, his first wife.
Oh, man.
And then he was having an affair with some other hottie, and he's got hotties.
Hillary knows this kind of guy.
She knows how to handle him.
Yeah, definitely.
And he is very slick.
And he has, when I met him, he was, I was having lunch actually with somebody.
And he comes by and he says hi to chat about, because it's when he's running for mayor and he's When you saw him, when you first meet the guy, you go, ah, president.
I mean, this guy is just a politician, a smooth talker, good-looking guy, but greasy.
He's got a greasy, sleazy quality with that hair.
If Hillary, of all the people that you see on any of these lists, and you'll see a bunch of them out there, they're all non-white old men.
Put a ticket for the Democrat party to take a chance.
It's risky.
You can do it.
Can we take it like a booker?
To take a booker.
A booker's probably the best guy.
But to take anybody who's not a white male of the old order.
Right, right.
It risks getting every whitey in the country, which is a lot of people, to vote against that ticket.
It would be the first time in American history where there wasn't one of these WASPs, white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, Either as president or vice president.
It just never happened.
I mean, even Obama brought in one of the waspiest of the wasps, Joe Biden, to be his VP. So I believe Hillary's got the same problem, because for all practical purposes, she's not a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant male.
She's a female.
Well, we're not sure.
Well, we don't know.
Whatever the case, and I said that purposely...
She has to pick a white dude, I believe, to win the election.
And the only guy that's on the list, the short list that I've seen, I mean, there's a couple boring guys that nobody's ever heard of.
No, she wants someone who's energized.
So she doesn't have to do all the energizing.
She wants a...
Yeah, she needs a guy like this.
He's very political, and he's also handsome.
And there's an old rule that I've been told a number of times about.
Why do they keep putting in Dan Quayle?
I asked somebody in Washington, D.C. about this specifically, and he said, because it's believed that women, and this is a sexist thing they say, but as he said, women always vote for the most handsome, and the guy with the best hair...
And there's always been this theory about the best hair.
How about that suffrage vote, huh?
Yes, exactly.
Ooh, he's so pretty!
This guy's hair is outrageous.
And he's handsome.
So he is the vice president pick.
Okay.
I think it would be a big surprise.
I don't think people are expecting that.
It will be met with bewilderment.
You heard it here first.
Yes, I agree.
And I think he's a bonehead, personally.
I don't think he's got, you know, if something happened to her and he became president, it would be hilarious.
He's perfect.
But we'll see.
Something else is happening, which we're not hearing about.
I have here a copy of the civil docket for Case 116CV04642RA. This is Jane Doe against defendant Donald J. Trump and defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein.
Yeah, this is old.
Well, this was filed June 30th.
It's not that old.
Yeah, it's been floating around, but she filed that same exact suit in Los Angeles six months earlier.
Well, let me just tell you what it is and what she's asking for and what I think is going on.
So she's claiming rape, sexual misconduct, criminal sexual acts, sexual abuse, forcible touching, assault, battery, intentional and reckless infliction of emotional distress and duress and false imprisonment.
And she goes into quite some detail, or the brief goes into quite some detail about what happened.
As Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with plaintiff at four different parties, on the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied plaintiff to a bed, exposed himself to plaintiff, then proceeded to forcibly rape plaintiff.
During the course of this savage sexual attack, plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop, but with no effect.
Defendant Trump responded to plaintiff's pleas by violently striking plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming he would do whatever he wanted.
And it just goes on and on and on.
Now, hold on a second.
I'm going to do a little backstory on this.
People have been, every once in a while, bringing this thing up and saying, well, I don't understand, you know, we're Democrat robots.
I don't understand why people don't make a bigger fuss out of this.
Why doesn't the news media pick this up?
Well, we know why.
We know why.
Because Bill Clinton made more trips to the sex island with Epstein than anybody.
And there's documented evidence.
And the other thing is, in the news media, I can assure you, when this thing came up, especially with the fact that she tried this before, this woman, it doesn't hold up.
And it does draw attention to Bill Clinton.
And it doesn't hold up.
It sounds like a bullet.
If you read it, I mean, I read it.
It's like people say, why didn't the news media pick it up?
Because the news media is bad enough.
Well, the thing you want to read is prayer for relief.
So what is she asking for as relief for this heinous crime she claims has been committed against her?
Plaintiff prays for judgment against defendants for the following relief.
That judgment be entered against defendants for special damages, compensatory damages, and punitive damages, an amount which shall be shown to be reasonable and just by the evidence, and in excess of $75,000.
So she's really looking for $75,000, at least.
That's not a lot for a Donald Trump lawsuit.
Rape.
Rape.
So this is...
Maybe it's just a tactic to move the attention away from Epstein and Bill.
I didn't think of that, but that's a possibility.
But I don't see how that works, because most people don't know who Epstein is, and you start looking into him, and you say, oh, this is the...
I mean, the guy was this party animal of epic proportions with his own island.
And then I guess Bill is...
And I never knew that Trump...
Trump knew the guy, but it doesn't seem like he's a guy who hangs out with, because Trump seems to only hang out with the guys who do real estate deals.
It never held water.
The whole thing's just a fake.
I think you're right.
I think you're right.
Let's talk about Turkey for a moment, as I continue to receive sometimes hourly messages.
Nothing is over in Turkey.
IEDs were exploding near the presidential palace this morning, and this video, I put it in the show notes, huge, like a sizable IED. The base is still without power.
This is by no means over, although the reporting has stopped on it pretty much completely.
And, of course, what the story now is, which I think has kind of slipped in enough to the lexicon that people who are trained to listen to the media and believe what they hear, it's like, oh, he started himself, he's doing it for himself.
But then there's also this annoying cleric, which we have...
No in-depth reporting on besides, oh, he's a nice cleric.
The old man Gulen.
The old man lives in the Poconos.
And the only person who is going around doing interviews, if he can get him, is Mark Holm trying to explain, hey, you know, whatever this guy is doing, look at the money he's getting, $500 million a year, taxpayer money, with these schools, with bogus educators.
No one wants to hear it because...
Like MSNBC, I'm sure, most of the scholastic executives, tons, certainly in Texas, of legislators have been going on junkets, trips to Turkey, hanging out, buying some rugs, as we all know, get some rugs, what you do.
But Erdogan has said, oh, you have to extradite him.
And here is the State Department's official response brought to you by Mark Toner.
And we, the United States, would welcome a formal extradition request with the evidence that we believe or that they would offer.
Man, he fucked that up.
We believe, I mean, what they would offer.
I wonder what he believes.
I wonder what he really thinks.
That it won't be sufficient?
Or that it is sufficient?
We believe, or that they would offer.
I don't know what he was thinking, why he said that.
I mean, it could have gone either way.
We believe it's bullshit.
We believe there's something about this guy.
I can't believe they don't, I can't believe that they don't I think this guy is a bad actor.
They know who he is.
State Department has arranged for it with CIA. The extradition for Gulen.
As you know, the extradition process is not something we talk about openly or publicly.
I didn't know that.
Is that all secret?
Is that secret?
Why not?
I don't know.
There's treaties, there's laws.
Why don't you talk about it?
Well, he's going to explain this.
That's something we talk about openly or publicly.
And in fact, we don't often address publicly extradition requests.
In this case, we've made an exception, given the level of public rhetoric back and forth.
To say that we haven't yet received a formal request.
But we do have an extradition treaty in effect with Turkey.
And again, we would welcome such a request from them with the evidence that they believe shows that Gulen is involved in this coup attempt.
Sounds like they don't want to be very forthcoming about it, and please just stop asking about him.
I think that there's another thing going on here, which is that Erdogan made the announcement that if they don't cough this guy up, even though, like he says, they haven't even filed any paperwork, they're going to tear up the extradition treaty with the United States.
That's what he said.
And that says to me that what his long game is, is that he's giving...
I believe this is just a theory.
He's given up on the idea of really getting in the European Union.
He sees the thing falling apart already.
He's not going to get in anyway.
They've been stringing him along.
Here's what I don't understand.
Why doesn't he threaten to let all the refugees out of the camp?
That's coming.
I think you're right.
And the next thing is that he's been cozying up with ISIS. He knows they're causing trouble in his country.
He's going to have to get in bed with them to the point where there's no fooling around.
He wants to be the sultan.
He wants to be the caliphate guy.
Yeah, he built that palace.
Yeah, and so he's going to be to the point where they're going to have a bunch of these ISIS creeps in Turkey, and we won't be able to extradite them.
Hmm.
Because he's going to tear up the extradition treaty.
And, hey, you guys wouldn't give us Ghoul and we tore up the treaty, so you can't have these people.
This guy is a problem.
There was another article about the Clinton Foundation and Ghoulin.
Yes, I heard this too, yeah.
Yeah, and this of course is the Uma Abedin connection, how Hillary spoke at the Turkish Cultural Center, and the money that was flowing, so who knows if that's going to be involved in it, I'm getting as much information as possible.
The egregious thing though, and this is what Erdogan is doing, You can't lock up or send your civil servants home and lock up the judiciary and cops and expect it to be calm.
I mean, in big cities, this does not end well.
And as we can see, now we have IEDs popping off.
But the most egregious thing, Turkey has revoked 3,213 ham radio licenses.
What?
The hams have been foreboden to transmit.
Oh, that's interesting.
Now, you know hams, of course.
We're all scoping out the QRP signals.
It's interesting.
I haven't heard anything yet, but you can...
If it's true that hams will save the world, then...
See if they can save turkey.
Save the world?
You can't even save turkey.
Interesting, though, isn't it?
Yeah, that's a tidbit you only hear on no agenda.
Yeah, and so for the first time, he's like, hey, maybe hams could be, maybe Erdogan's going like, hey, there's no agenda, guys.
You know, they keep talking about hams saving the world.
We should probably get rid of those guys.
Clamp down.
Clamp down on them, exactly.
Now here we have ham radio, guys.
Ham radio is the public service network of last resort.
When the apocalypse comes, we're the guys who are going to save the world, right?
I don't know if you did.
Oh, they took away my license.
So I'll be listening.
I will report back.
And then two incidents in Europe, one in France.
Mother and her daughters knifed by a, well, we don't know his motivation, except he yelled, I'm going to kill y'all.
And Germany was particularly bad.
ISIS is now taking responsibility for a bloody attack in Germany.
Officials in Bavaria say a 17-year-old asylum seeker from Afghanistan struck train passengers with an axe and a knife, injuring five people before he was shot dead by police last night.
And today, a video now surfacing, allegedly showing the attacker threatening further ISIS attacks.
So Merkel is under a lot of pressure now for this, mainly because Germany is realizing that only 0.25% of the million migrants they have have any kind of paperwork.
And this guy, they don't know where they're from.
And so Germany is saying, well, we're not quite sure if he came from Pakistan or Afghanistan.
We're not quite sure.
Yeah, they stepped in it.
And I was looking over some documents.
And this is something the Europeans should know.
Because in the European Union documents, I'm going to tell you what document this was specifically.
Let me see.
It's from 2009.
So it's all around the time of the Lisbon Treaty.
And I'm translating this from Dutch on the fly.
But they talk about legal migration, how migration is necessary.
And I don't know if this was ever...
Discussed when the EU was really coming together.
But by 2050, the European Commission estimates that there must be 60, 6-0 million migrant workers in the EU member states.
And it is necessary to do this, otherwise the population is getting too old.
I think there's other ways to solve the population is getting too old.
But I'd never heard the 60 million quota that they apparently have to reach by 2050.
They're well on their way, but dang.
Computer model.
Could be, but it's in the paperwork.
They were running late.
Okay.
Oh, and before we go, thank some people.
Putin has come out and has said...
Putin's come out?
He's come out.
Putin has come out.
And he said he is going to ban Pokemon Go from Russia.
Because he says, and this of course is a translation, why would I allow CIA to have our young people doing their work for them, roaming around taking pictures and sending back GPS data and information, and God knows what else is going on with that game.
Like, alright, alright, nice one.
That's funny.
I think he's right.
I think he has a very good point.
Yeah.
Maybe that was the idea, because this thing is rolling out worldwide.
And it came out of Google.
Maybe that was the idea, and we're all looking at our own data.
Yeah, they're not interested in you stupid Americans.
You stupid millennials running around with that.
We don't care about that.
No.
No, we want to get other people roaming around so we can activate, because you can activate anything.
You can activate GPS pings.
It'll alert you.
Oh, let me turn on my camera.
Boom.
It could be a great spy device if you really think about it, but not for U.S. citizens, but for the rest of the world.
Yeah.
Well, it's rolled out in Germany recently, so there you go.
Go Putin!
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Disturbing news report came out today.
Very disturbing, although it fits right.
It's from Australia.
You thought we were the only ones who are nuts.
A school in Sydney, a primary school, has introduced a few new ways for the children to interact with each other and how their conduct in class.
The Eleanora Heights Public School, which is on Sydney's northern beaches, announced the new policy in its latest school letter.
Children are no longer allowed to clap.
Instead, they will perform silent cheering, pulling excited faces, and punching in the air to respect students who are sensitive to noise.
How about that?
On some TV sitcom where somebody came out and you can't do this because she can't hear clapping because it's...
Yeah, yeah, loud noises.
There's a lot of these millennials who are...
Noise freaks them out.
Chewing freaks them out.
There's a lot of...
So you can't clap in school, silent cheering, pull an excited face, and punch in the air.
There you go, kids.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
Wow.
That's borderline clip of the day.
Please clap.
Oops.
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I didn't have it.
Well, I'll take the borderline, even though it's not a clip.
I'll have one thing I want to roll out because I've been putting it off.
And this is, because we don't talk about this enough, and we should talk about it even though we have very little support.
Is it about millennials?
Because I was kind of on a millennial tip.
No, if you want to do another millennial tip.
This is on Puerto Rico.
Yeah, no, I'd like to do two millennial things.
Just because I know how much you love it.
There's something new.
Be on the lookout.
Pay attention to Jay.
You never know what she's up to.
A disturbing trend is on the rise at college campuses throughout the country.
It's called drunkorexia.
CBS News medical contributor, Dr.
Tara Narula, is a cardiologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, and she's here to explain what the researchers have found out.
So, drunkorexia.
It sounds like a silly name, but it's sort of serious.
What is it?
So, drunkorexia is a complex pattern of drinking-related behaviors that occurs before, during, and after drinking.
And the idea is basically to prevent weight gain from the calories that come from alcohol and to get a faster buzz.
So what many young people will do is to skip meals before drinking, to exercise heavily before or after drinking, or to use things like diuretics or laxatives or even vomiting and purging after drinking.
That's what the kids are up to.
I'm finding this one hard to believe.
I think it's bullcrap.
Oh, no.
They're doing crazy.
They're doing crazy stuff.
And the toast?
How many emails and tweets have you received about toast?
Actually, only a couple.
Oh!
Oh, my goodness.
I had no idea.
There's toast places all over Austin.
Oh, yeah.
It's ridiculous.
Can't wait to go to Irene's and get some toast.
Let's go get some toast.
Hey, honey, would you like to go out for some toast?
Yeah.
I gotta tell you, I'm only pissed that we didn't come up with this obvious scam.
What a genius idea.
What could be next?
What could possibly be next?
I already told you, bread and water.
And Gruul.
I think a restaurant called Gruul.
I think Gruul, we could rebrand Gruul.
I think you're right.
I think we could do this.
I can make Gruul taste good.
I can.
Before you go into the next bit, we just have to bring up, briefly, the unsurprising event of Milo Jeffenafelublas being thrown off of Twitter.
Yeah.
And, whoa!
I mean, this was...
What an interesting way this happened.
He got kicked off Twitter.
Jack Dorsey did it himself, and this is all about...
I can't wait to see this new Ghostbusters movie, because it sounds like it's a social justice warrior screw men type deal.
Based on the genesis of this argument on Twitter about a horrible review Milo had written about the movie for Breitbart.
And, well, here's a little wrap-up just of how it eventually came down, of course.
The bullying is so, so sad.
The tweets were so heinous, they prompted a usually happy Jones to tweet this.
I leave Twitter tonight with tears and a very sad heart.
All this because I did a movie.
You can hate the movie, but the stuff I got today?
Wrong.
Kate Lunau, a social media expert with Motherboard, says this type of abuse happens too often.
Of course, I checked out this social media expert at Motherboard.
She has 2,300 followers, so I guess she's really big.
She's an expert.
2,300 followers, she must be an expert.
Well, listen to her.
She knows what she's talking about.
What Leslie Jones went through is totally horrific, but it happens to users of I was going to ask you, because you are the blocking king, and I wonder, why is this deemed not effective?
I thought it worked, the blocking.
It does.
It works great.
Then why is she saying this?
I was thinking about this.
I know what it is.
I've noticed this before.
Blocking works because then people just get tired of it.
And they start whining that you blocked them.
But if they're harassing you or they're saying stuff you just don't want to hear it, you just block them.
Because I have reasons I use Twitter and there's certain things I just don't want to deal with and so I just block people.
And so you block them, block them, block them, and then they just figure you're just like a dead man.
They don't care.
And that's what happens when you have people harassing you.
Unless they can harass you, you block them.
So then they can't harass you.
So then they say, I have to harass her, so let me set up another account.
So you go through the trouble of setting up an account, which takes your time, and then you say something, and they block you again.
So I've got to get back at her.
And so you can do this until you're blue in the face and you just get blocked and blocked.
I do not understand why these celebrities that have all these Number of followers.
Just don't block people left and right.
I would say one of the things to do is just hire an intern or get somebody in there and have them monitor your feed and just block, block, block, block.
I think that's the complaint.
Because, of course, when Milo got into it with her, that's when people went crazy on Twitter, of course, and they were sending her pictures of gorillas and racist things.
But there's so much, you can't just sit there, block, block, block, and these people who are into these, they're ill.
I mean, this whole, it's an illness.
These social networks are not good.
And you can see, I mean, she implodes, everyone's imploding, Milo gets kicked off.
Yeah, if you look at the terms of service, of course you can, I mean, they can kick you off for anything, and they're going to do it, and it's not surprising.
I'm mad as hell!
Oops.
This is really effective.
Jones and her followers did both of those, but they couldn't keep up with the onslaught of hate.
Onslaught of hate!
Jones even tweeted, I feel like I'm in personal hell.
I didn't do anything to deserve this.
It's just too much.
It shouldn't be like this.
So hurt right now.
So hurt right now.
Shouldn't comedians...
Is she a comedian who knows how to handle hecklers?
I thought she was a comedian.
I thought she was a comedian.
I mean, this makes no sense.
I think it hurts your career when you do this, being heckled or whatever.
I mean, come on.
Twitter said that it has taken action on many of the accounts reported to them.
But Lunau says the actions have to go further.
The point is, right now, it doesn't look like they're doing much.
They've said they're addressing these concerns, but we don't really see a lot happening yet.
She says Twitter...
I have an idea.
What's that?
Don't go on Twitter.
But we don't really see a lot.
If you don't have to kill your account, go to your account later.
Just stay off for a month and then go back and start using it again.
They've said they're addressing these concerns, but we don't really see a lot happening yet.
She says Twitter can easily help to halt hate just by strengthening its own tools.
For starters, if you block someone, they might not be able to see your tweets when they're logged in, but they could go through a third party or just stay not logged in and still see what you're doing.
You can still see them in your mentions.
If you report them, it can take quite a bit of time for that to actually go through, and even then there's not any guarantee that the report will be flagged.
So improving those tools is really important.
Improving the tools.
Do you think...
It's just bullcrap.
Do you think that she actually gets more...
Or less hate for this period of time during the movies.
I don't know what this movie's about, but it's about Ghostbusters with women.
Do you think she gets more or less hate than Hillary or Donald Trump?
Less.
Yes, I would think so.
Yeah, much less.
But of course there's also a real problem, which is why I find this all a bit suspect, particularly coming from a comedian.
The movie's a flop.
The movie is not taken off.
It's not doing what they wanted it to do.
And this was, as evidenced, by Dan Aykroyd.
Dan Aykroyd, he's a producer, executive producer on the movie, but he doesn't really do a lot of media.
But he showed up on Entertainment Tonight to try and rescue this, and this guy is clueless.
A man as hell!
An all-out attack by racist internet trolls.
Last night, Leslie Jones announces she's had it with the offensive remarks she's all too familiar with receiving on Twitter and asks this of the site.
Twitter, I understand you got free speech.
I get it.
But there has to be some guidelines when you let spread like that.
You can see on the profiles that some of these people are crazy sick.
It's not enough to freeze a count.
They should be reported.
These people, first of all, they're insignificant gnats.
They're losers.
They have no lives of their own.
They can probably barely pay for the Wi-Fi they're using.
Probably no jobs.
I would say you're looking at obese people.
White men between 50 and 60 who are active Klan members are members of the Aryan nation, and there are millions of them.
Yeah, that describes Milo to the T. Fat, old, white guy.
Are you kidding me?
I hate to give you this, but that is another Clip of the Day.
Clip of the Day.
It happened so good.
He doesn't even know what's going on.
You have to play it again.
It's too ridiculous.
I'll just play the aggroid bit.
It's fantastic.
Some of these people are crazy sick.
It's not enough to freeze a count.
They should be reported.
These people, first of all, they're insignificant gnats.
They're losers.
They have no lives of their own.
They can probably barely pay for the Wi-Fi they're using.
Probably no jobs.
I would say you're looking at obese white men between 50 and 60 who are active Klan members or members of the Aryan nation.
And there are millions of them.
That's right.
That's Milo.
Active Klan member.
Obese.
Obese.
Wow.
No, I gotta say...
Not a good play.
So they got problems with the movie.
This could all just be to hype it up.
Leslie Jones doesn't seem like someone who gets offended that quickly.
No, I think this was a hype maneuver.
Although it tends to focus more on her than the movie.
So it's not a very good promotion.
But Aykroyd is out there.
He's pushing it.
He's not in the movie.
Let me see what it did.
Box office.
Well, let's see what it did.
Let's take a look at Tomatoes.
I thought it was highly rated.
I was looking forward to it.
Oh, this is Ghostbusters.
What's it called?
Ghostbusters.
Ghostbusters 10 or something.
Three.
$45 million opening, which is...
That's reasonable.
Well, I don't know what it costs to make the movie.
We can look it up.
For action adventure, it's reasonable.
It's not...
Okay, here's the final opening.
Okay, final opening figure for the Ghostbusters with female spin, $46 million.
That has almost not changed since yesterday.
Let me see.
The majority of executives in town think it's a lackluster result, particularly for a movie with steep price tag.
Uh-oh.
Uh-huh.
Ghostbusters is predicted to fall 50% to 55% in revenue this coming weekend.
Many don't think it will have the wildly high multiples that come with Fague and Melissa McCarthy vehicles because those openings are 100 million plus.
So, it's in trouble.
You know, you got to recoup.
Someone's got to recoup.
Well, you get a 73% rating from tomatoes.
But the audience score, this is always a bad sign.
What you want to make really serious money is you get a 75% on tomatoes and the audience goes up to 90%.
This is 73% tomatoes on the tomato meter, and the audience score is 58.
So that means it's got a bad, something about it is bothering people, it didn't bother the critics.
So, don't know.
And now I want to see it.
One more non-clip related story, which I think is important, because in the past we've brought up the cabal of the lightbulb industry, who years ago determined planned obsolescence into their lightbulbs.
This is not discussed very much anymore, but I think we brought it up once because there is a light bulb that's in the fire department garage in Livermore, California, which has been on pretty much consistently for the past 115 years.
Wow.
And it has not expired, it has not burned out.
They keep it kind of low, but it's like you're on a dimmer.
But it's still rolling.
And there's a consortium of lightbulb makers, and they decided...
Sorry?
I should mention my car.
Well, I want you to mention that after I get into the full story.
So they decided in 1924, and it was Phillips, Osram, General Electric, who took over Shelby Electric in 1912.
They met in Switzerland and they formed Phoebus.
And we've talked about this on the show.
Which, of course, was the first global cartel.
And they decided light bulbs will only last so long.
And if you look at the light bulbs, oh, it'll go for a thousand hours.
And then after about a thousand hours, it just breaks because they're meant to break that way because otherwise they would have, you know, there's no incentive to give you great light bulbs.
But now, check it out, the LED manufacturers are now planning a 10,000 hour cycle, which is down from 40,000 in some cases.
And they'll probably lower it even more.
LEDs.
They should go forever.
Of course they should.
They are now going to put in planned obsolescence into LED bulbs.
Or LED, yeah, LED light bulbs.
Well, anyone in the right mind who sells these things should eschew this idea and just sell bulbs that last forever.
There's always other problems, and this is...
This is technology at work.
Philips, who has, of course, the Hue lighting system, they have now pushed out firmware updates, and I have the Hue system, so that you can no longer use the unofficial lights.
So, you know, the protocol is kind of known, and people have, oh, you can use my light instead of the Hue lights.
No, Philips said, you know, now they're checking it.
And you can't even break the code that checks it because that's a DMCA violation.
Light bulbs are going to be incompatible.
That's disgusting.
Yes!
And, you know, yes.
That's all I can say.
Yes.
And then finally, just for the Red Book, to round that out, parents of the boy killed by alligator, although it should be two alligators, that doesn't come up anymore, will not be suing Disney.
Gee.
Yeah, I found that peculiar.
Yeah, well, you know my stance on it.
This was a distraction.
Yeah, it was a distraction to get the press away from Orlando, from the Pulse, so that they could clean up the bodies that were shot by the cops.
Yep.
Yeah, somebody wrote me a tweet, sent me a tweet saying, you know, this proves that this was real.
You guys said it was not.
Not I had anything to do with it.
Oh, we've seen nothing.
We heard nothing, seen nothing.
No.
Yeah, now they're not going to sue for some reason.
I'd be suing.
I mean, why wouldn't you sue?
It doesn't make sense.
That's the question.
You just get a cash payout.
I mean, it's like slipping on a lettuce leaf at the grocery store.
Well, I'm sure they got a cash payout no matter what happened and what is true or not.
They got a cash payout, but this seems like a very odd way to end this.
Yeah, I agree.
Without any video of anything or anything, just anything.
All right, you had something else you wanted to bring up.
I'm going to put it off to Sunday.
Really?
Well then, I have two more things.
Just some White House stuff.
Put it off to Sunday.
You know how over time we are?
It's outrageous.
That's no way to end a show.
I know it's not, but...
That's no way to end a show.
Unless you got something funny.
No, it's Black Lives Matter stuff.
That's never funny.
That's never funny.
Okay, I did find one thing.
This will be nice just to mull over until the weekend.
You remember the white boy privilege poem that we discussed?
Oh, God.
And I was going to play that clip again from CBS. White boy privilege was an entry in a school poetry contest.
To be honest, I'm scared of what it would be like if I wasn't on the top rung, if the tables were turned and I didn't have my white boy privilege safety blankie to protect me.
Royce Mann's message was a plea from a 14-year-old white male going to a private school in Atlanta.
Let everyone share his privileges.
I'm just trying to be truthful about how I wouldn't trade places with somebody and that I think a lot of people sometimes aren't so truthful about that.
Now, this is not the clip I was hoping it was.
You recall that he said he first learned about white privilege in the gender and race class at school?
At the new school he was going to?
Yeah, the school, yeah.
The school is the Paeda school.
And this is what I did.
This is a thing.
Paeda schools.
It actually started in...
It's big now in Sweden.
And Barbara Spector is...
That would make sense.
Yes.
Barbara Spector is the person who is promoting this Paeda Schools, and the reason is made evident in this clip.
How do you spell that?
I think it's P-A-I-D-E-I-A. Paeda Schools.
And just one last question.
Last week, political...
Oh, sorry, that's the wrong one.
Here it is.
So this is Barbara Spector.
As we heard, there are people in Sweden who support Israel and have a deep sense of the injustice of the present situation.
It's these people who give hope to those who still believe that things will get better here.
One of them is Barbara Spector, a former American who made Aliyah and then, ten years ago, with the help of the government of Sweden, Set up a non-denominational institute of Jewish learning with the Greek name of Paideia here in Stockholm.
She believes the current wave of anti-Semitism in Sweden will pass, and that Jews have an important role to play in a country undergoing profound change.
I think there's a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time, Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural.
And I think we're going to be part of the throes of that transfer.
Transformation, which must take place.
Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century.
Jews are going to be at the center of that.
It's a huge transformation for Europe to make.
They are now going into a multicultural mode.
And Jews will be resented because of our leading role.
But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.
This, I thought, was very interesting.
Thank you.
So these schools are put together so that Jews will help shepherd in, because they're the only ones that can do it, the multicultural society in Europe, which as far as I know, everyone in Europe, including the EU, has said failed.
And they need to do this because otherwise Jews will be blamed if it fails.
This is some heavy stuff going on here.
And here's what they're being taught.
You have white privilege, white guilt.
I'd never heard of these Paeda schools, but apparently they're around.
I wonder what somebody in the Ozarks or Appalachian Mountains living in a shack, a white, think about this white privilege idea.
What their thoughts are.
I'm sure they have lots of questions.
Um...
Well, I have some comments on the Jewish angle and the anti-Semitism on the next show.
Ah!
Okay.
It's actually major.
It'll knock your socks off.
Can't wait.
But we will have to wait, because that's coming on Sunday.
And we will continue our quest to deconstruct everything that's taking place.
Tonight, of course, will be the Trump speech, and then we have...
The VP pick for Friday and whatever comes, we'll deal with it accordingly.
But just remember, we do it so you don't have to.
I think the Trump speech is going to be a dud to the people who thought Trump was exciting because it's not going to be exciting.
It's going to be read and it's going to be presidential and all the pundits because it's always a great speech.
The pundits who want him to fail by being and not who he is.
And that's what you're going to see.
I think if he went up there and says, I'm not going to run the prompters, I'm going to just talk, it would be fantastic, but that's not what's going to happen.
I believe he has something in store for us.
No.
Okay.
Maybe I'm just hopeful.
Please put Melania back on stage so I can cry again.
Well, the question is, will she even show up?
That's a good question.
We will.
We'll show up on Sunday.
Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in downtown Austin, Tejas, FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it looks like nap time, I'm John C. Dvorak.
And as promised, the Gitmo Nation National Anthem at the end of the show.
Adios, mofos!
Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem.
In the morning, Gitmo Nation, we are all charged up to beat.
Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea.
From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond.
We are happy and distracted slaves.
Hear our giftful nation song In the morning Can I see something?
See something.
If we turn against each other based on divisions of the big race, of the big religion, of the big...
If we fall for...
If we fall...
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Just because it sounds funnier.
The tweets are boxed.
The Freaker. The Freaker.
The visions, race, or religion.
This is Hillary Clinton. - Whoa.
The American people.
Yes or no.
In fact, we came, we saw, we died.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Not now, son.
I'm making toast.
We wanted to create a really good toast.
We've been promising it, but it took us a while to kind of reformulate it.
We didn't want to do an ordinary toast.
Toast.
We wanted to create really good toast.
Toast.
Toast.
I brought a few loaves, a bed that I baked at Mission Pie, and my toaster from home.
We wanted to create really good toast.
We wanted to create really good toast.
We've been promising it, but it took us a while to kind of reformulate.
We didn't want to do an ordinary toast.
Toad, toast, toast, toast, toast, toast, toast, toast, toast, toast.
I'm sick of this shit.
What have I done myself in two?
Amen.
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