It's Sunday, July 24, 2016, and it's your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination, episode 845.
This is no agenda.
Waiting through WikiLeaks emails so you don't have to, and because it's fun.
And broadcasting live from the capital of Drone Star State here in FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
And I'm up.
Well, inspiring, John.
Right.
I nailed it.
Yeah.
For sure.
Nailed it.
I was going to do a thing on the WikiLeaks, and then you took it.
Oh, then I did.
I'm sorry.
Well, again, it shows.
And so then I got flat.
Here I am sitting here flat-footed.
Flat-footed.
Flat-footed.
And so I just went through it.
Oh, man.
Well, it's been another fun couple of days.
Oh, fantastic.
You can't lose during this period.
Do you have an actual life?
I don't.
I do watching TV. Hey baby, come on over.
I'll cook and we'll watch TV. C-span.
C-span.
Wow.
Riveting stuff.
Riveting stuff.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot going on in the world because it's just one after another now.
Yes, and they're really stringing them.
They're putting them together for us.
Yeah, they certainly are.
They're putting them together for Trump.
Yeah.
They're putting them together for somebody.
Okay.
What do you want to start with?
I can do a little reminiscing, but I don't think people want to hear me read yet.
But I have a good story to read.
Okay, we'll keep that right.
Let me just ask you, just to start off, what did you think of the Trump speech?
That's what everyone wants to know.
That's one good thing to talk about.
Well...
Wait a minute.
You had it on your paper, on the rundown, to talk about it.
Yes.
Yes, very good.
Well, a couple things.
One, it was long.
Yes.
And even though they're, oh, well, there's a lot of clapping.
I mean, I think there was a great bit.
It was almost like it was staged.
Oh, well, the only reason it was long is because all the clapping, which, you know, indicates that people were clapping, which is a good thing.
Yeah.
It was long because Trump knows how to milk it when he's on primetime on CBS, ABC, and NBC. Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And so instead of doing like a 45-minute speech, which would be typical, he did an hour and 15.
So he went at least 15 minutes over what they expect.
They have to start bumping stuff.
And I just thought that was genius.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Why did you think it was genius?
I think it was genius because he knows how to get free publicity.
And he moved into the 10 o'clock hour for news.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
So that's what I was always doing.
Now, the speech itself, you know, I thought it was a good speech.
It seemed to get the job done.
I think everybody's analysis of it was completely bullcrap.
They said, well, you know, it's dark.
Let me start this off.
Before we got all the dark stuff, I'm going to have some of that, too.
Oh, it's dark.
The first response I saw was...
Oh, I'm sorry.
You know what?
Let's do it this way.
Here, I have three quickies.
I have...
Let's see.
I have the CBS right after the speech.
AFC... This is...
ABC and then NBC. Just quick how they actually...
After you're done with that, I would like to run Amy Goodman at you.
I am your voice.
Trump said...
It was a loud voice, more vengeful than hopeful, more hyperbole than detail.
Okay, that was CBS. That was Scott Pelley.
That was Scott Pelley.
Here is ABC. We're all afraid for our safety.
Hold on a second.
He said that he labeled Hillary the candidate of death?
Yeah, listen to it again.
Said Martha Reddison, pretty dark speech, labeled Hillary Clinton the candidate of death, destruction, terrorism, weakness, and mass law.
Lady McDuff.
I didn't hear that in the speech.
Yeah, if Americans are not scared for their safety before tonight, they are tonight.
And then NBC... People in this hall see him as a man on a white horse who will lead them to some kind of a sanctuary and then pull the drawbridge up behind them.
Others looking in are going to see someone they'll only think of as a demagogue of some kind.
Okay, I'm going to hold on to my favorite one because we're going to play your Amy Goodman first, which is...
Okay, but first I do want to make a couple of observations before I forget.
One of them is that I, you know, people say, well...
No, I'll do it after.
You better play the Goodman stuff.
It's a part two.
This is the Trump speech rundown from Amy?
Yeah.
Why is it not loading?
Yeah, there we go.
And the violence, and to stop the drugs from pouring into our communities!
Donald Trump's speech included multiple factual inaccuracies.
According to the Washington Post, the speech was, quote, a compendium of doomsday stats that fall apart upon close scrutiny.
Numbers are taken out of context, data is manipulated, and sometimes the facts are wrong, they wrote.
Many criticized Trump's speech, saying it had undertones of fear-mongering and demagoguery.
In a piece entitled, Donald Trump, the Candidate of the Apocalypse, the Washington Post editorial board said Trump's speech embodied a wishful demagogic brand, writing, quote, Mr.
Trump took real challenges and recast them in terms that were not only exaggerated but also apocalyptic.
Co-founder of Black Lives Matter Alicia Garza tweeted, quote, I don't know what I'm watching right now, but I imagine this is the kind of speech Hitler would make.
Hashtag freedom now.
We're all going to die. - This is what I imagine Hitler would do.
I thought the Hitler thing was bad enough she throws that in.
Why is this Black Lives Matter woman used as a source?
Well, I'll tell you why.
Because the Black Lives Matter people are apparently on the payroll.
They are, according to the other state.
So I thought that was taking it to the limit.
But no, let's just add a little icing on the cake.
But Trump's speech did receive praise from former head of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke, who tweeted, quote, Great Trump speech.
America first.
Stop wars.
Defeat the corrupt elites.
Protect our borders.
Fair trade.
Couldn't have said it better.
Okay, now if you listen to what Duke wrote, how would Amy disagree with any of that?
Stop war, you know, shut down the elites, all the stuff that the left-wing progressives are supposed to be all for, but because it came from David Duke, she derides it mockingly.
It just...
Well, just...
This is the, what is the Democrat, the Democratic Party, all of a sudden, the war party?
When did that happen?
So...
Just like the, and this is a meme going around, you probably saw it, every single news outlet used the word dark to describe Trump's speech.
There's actually a poster somebody made.
Yes, and so this David Duke thing also popped up, which of course makes you immediately wonder if, you know, hey, someone said, hey, Duke, man, would you do this right after the speech?
Could you just post this?
We'll hook you up.
Rachel Maddow had her comment on it.
One thing that's getting a lot of traction on social media is the response to Donald Trump's speech from David Duke, the former Klan leader, who is running for Congress again or running for some elected office again.
He says, great Trump speech, America first, stop wars, defeat the corrupt elites, protect our borders, fair trade.
Couldn't have said it better, meaning couldn't have said it better myself.
And a lot of people who I think are critical of Donald Trump generally look at praise like that from somebody like Donald Duke and wonder if he is Did you hear it?
Did you hear it?
No, you didn't hear it.
No, I'll tell you why I didn't hear it.
Okay.
Because I'm thinking, as she rattles this off, that I'm just kind of in a loop about this.
What is she, the grammar police all of a sudden?
Well, listen, if she's the grammar police, she makes a huge boo-boo.
Listen.
Look at a phrase like that from somebody like Donald Duke.
Did you hear it?
Praise like that from somebody like Donald Duke.
Yeah, it's David Duke.
But all of a sudden, this is good.
In her head, she's already connected David Duke to Donald Trump.
It's like completely, it's in there.
Praise like that from somebody like Donald Duke and wonder if he is a gateway drug.
That's a great catch.
I'll give you a lower line clip of the day for that.
No, I'll take it.
The clip's not even over.
You ran it by me.
Clip of the day.
It's not even over yet.
There is something beyond Donald Trump himself that means a much greater transformation of the Republican Party into something that is going to be new to mainstream politics.
Look, David Duke is a disgusting figure.
He's a racist and a bigot.
He's a cancer-on-the-body politic.
Okay, we don't need to hear the rest of this guy.
But I like what she's saying.
It's a gateway drug to the KKK. Trump's speech.
A gateway drug to the KKK. So what Duke said, that's just...
Instead of character assassin, let's just assume we don't even know who this guy is.
Okay, gotcha.
Oh, okay, that's a good point.
If you did know who this guy was...
Let's just...
No, for argument's sake, we'll just say, John, could you read that tweet that Adam Curry sent out about the speech?
Okay, and then I read exactly that.
I don't have it in front of me.
Good work.
Well, I mean, you're throwing this at me.
I don't have that David Duke thing in front of me.
Oh, I thought you had his whole tweet.
Okay.
No, I'm just saying that what he said was, which was anti-war.
Anti-war.
Anti-elites.
Bad, bad, bad.
All bad.
How is that bad?
I mean, and this is coming from Rachel Maddow.
I thought these guys were supposed to be anti-war, but no, apparently they're all pro-war, and Hillary's a war candidate.
We know that much.
Everybody had the Duke thing, so everybody was on that.
Yeah, well, Ku Klux Klan.
Ku Klux Klan.
But my favorite response...
Right after was on CNN from Van Jones.
It was just a relentlessly dark speech.
He was describing some Mad Max America.
I work in some of the toughest neighborhoods and some of the toughest communities in this country, and I don't know what he's talking about when he describes the country he's talking about.
And there was some schizophrenic, psychopathic attempt to pull apart the Obama coalition Actually, I've never felt this way in my life.
I have read in history, being in moments where there's some big authoritarian movement and some leader that's rising up, and I felt that way tonight, and it was terrifying for me.
This speech divided the country.
You're either inspired by this or you're terrified by it.
I'm terrified by it.
I'm terrified by it.
What?
He's terrified, that guy.
That's why I'm terrifying you more.
Contradiction is true.
Those are the facts of this world.
And you will all surrender to them.
You pigs in human clothing.
He's a dictator.
I'm afraid you're either inspired or terrified is what you're saying.
Van Jones.
And starting right off with the dark mean.
Yeah, well, he's an old pro.
So I ran into the one analysis I thought was good.
Oh, okay, good.
And it was more objective, I think.
And it involved a guy who's...
You've probably seen him.
I haven't seen him for a while.
He used to be a regular on Beck when Beck was on Fox.
And the guy's name is Pat Cadell.
And Pat Goodell was the campaign guy, he's one of these campaign guys, a high-level campaign guy, who did the Jimmy Carter campaign when he lost against Reagan.
And then he switched over to kind of a Republican strategist.
He's noteworthy because he wears one of the cheapest wigs anyone...
Oh, now I know who you're talking about.
Yeah, of course.
There you go.
I got him.
I got him.
He's got this cheap wig.
So I thought he actually analyzed this thing absolutely perfectly.
And I think I've always liked this guy.
Even when he was with Beck, he was outstanding.
And by the way, the Beck people are so beside themselves.
And before playing Pat Cadell, can we just play Dana?
Dana is the good-looking brunette who comes on, but she's all in with Beck and hating on Trump.
Certain individuals, particularly those that focus on trade.
And that's something that we will be recapping when we are back with you on Monday.
But the media for now is still focusing on what Ted Cruz didn't say last night.
But let's take a look at what he did say, though.
He came out and he congratulated the nominee.
He urged everyone to go to the polls.
He specifically said, do not stay home this November.
He said, we have to beat Hillary Clinton.
And then he encouraged people to vote your conscience.
Now, I don't know why anybody would boo if someone says, if something in your conscience is imploring you to boo when someone says, vote what you're thinking, vote what's in your heart, then I'm wondering kind of what's in your head and heart.
Darkness.
Darkness, John.
Dark.
This is the most disingenuous thing.
For one thing, this is Hillary Clinton's gag.
I saw Hillary deliver it.
It was quite funny when she did it.
Even Hillary knew this was bogus.
People were not booing because he said, vote your conscience.
Which is what she implies.
She's a liar.
I have to, then, before you go into Pat, I need to, this was a really outrageous lie that I just wanted to, there were two things really that, but this was CBS, of course, we know who CBS's side, what side they're on.
Yes.
And this was about Ivanka's speech, which I liked very much.
I mean, come on.
This is...
I thought it was outstanding.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is CBS on Ivanka's speech.
There we go.
Equal pay for equal work.
Ivanka Trump's speech, the Clinton camp noted, sounded a lot like their candidate.
Equal pay for the work legal.
They argued Trump does not share his daughter's concern for working women.
This video...
There, CBS took a piece from Ivanka's speech where she said, we have to have equal pay for women.
And they said, wow, it's just like Hillary's speech.
It's exactly what Hillary's saying.
But that is a big, big lie.
And I just want to play what she actually said.
Women represent 46% of the total U.S. labor force.
And 40% of American households have female primary breadwinners.
In 2014, women made 83 cents for every dollar earned by a man.
Single women without children earned 94 cents for each dollar earned by a man, whereas married mothers made only 77 cents.
As researchers have noted, gender is no longer the factor creating the greatest wage discrepancy in this country.
Motherhood is.
She goes on to explain.
Absolutely great catch, and that shows you the, again, disingenuous CBS. Well, that's not disingenuous.
They didn't bring any of that up.
That is lying.
That's lying.
It's taking stuff out of context and then associating it with somebody else to use it to slam the person, when in fact, her real point, which you played, because she did go on.
Oh, she went on and on about how...
And what Trump is going to do is create affordable childcare so that women with children can get to work like they want to do.
That is his solution.
Well, that makes a lot of sense.
Just on Ivanka, briefly, we can move on.
On the face bag, because of course, this was...
I mean, I had to get my hazmat suit on and everything to go into this.
Women, women are posting...
Wow!
Well, yeah, with their $820,000 plastic surgery.
I mean, that's seriously a comment.
$820,000 worth of plastic surgery.
And then, what?
Well, she's horrible.
She was shilling her dress.
And the girl's wearing a $135 dress from her own clothing line.
$135 dress.
And she looks dynamite.
And she's very inspirational with her clothing line and all that.
But oh no.
Oh no.
She's horrible.
She's trying to sell her dresses during the convention.
But the hate of how she looks, it's Sarah Palin all over again.
Now, Ivanka didn't really say anything dumb or come across stupid, but it doesn't matter.
You're pretty?
Fuck you.
Can't have that.
Unbelievable.
All right.
ABC, since you went on to that topic, I have this clip, Ivanka follow-up sales address.
ABC actually took that and ran with it in almost a native advertising way and gave her props.
ABC, by the way, I believe is on the Trump's campaign.
Oh, okay.
Tom Yamas joined us live tonight.
Tom, you and I were both in that convention hall last night.
A lot of high marks also for Ivanka Trump, her effort to reach out to women in particular.
But ever the businesswoman, she had another pitch after.
That's right, David.
This morning, Ivanka Trump sending out a tweet selling a dress almost identical to the one she wore last night at the Republican convention.
It's from her own fashion line.
It cost $138, and David, apparently it's a big hit.
We checked tonight.
It's already sold out at Macy's.
All right, selling her father and selling a few dresses at the same time.
Tom, thank you.
We move on.
That's right.
How dare you?
How very dare you?
A little lighter, lighter tone, lighter touch than these other guys who were freaked out.
Now we can understand a little bit about the freak out if we listen to Pat Cadell.
I think he largely succeeded.
Pat, you faced, as Jimmy Carter's poster 1980, you faced Ronald Reagan.
Did you tonight hear Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump or Barry Goldwater?
Oh, You know what?
We keep trying to go back to elections that don't fit.
This is a new paradigm election.
When I hear people, when Doug says, and I heard the other commentators in the other networks talking about, which is true, that 67% of the country is on the wrong track.
The same percentage don't think they're not only on the wrong track, that the country is in decline.
What he did tonight was speak truth, the vast majority, Democrats, Republicans, and independents believe, about a rigged system, about the idea that the country's going backwards, the concern and anxiety, the larger questions at the same time trying to satisfy his base.
And I thought he pulled it off Really well.
And I think the other thing he did, and if you think of some of the arguments, he is the first American politician I can think of to stand as a nominee and use the word corruption, which is what a giant percentage of Americans believe Washington is about.
He talked about the powerless.
He talked about he was reaching to themes that, and I'll tell you, you could see it in the other response networks.
These people are panicked.
The people who do not understand, they have not understood this election, or why he's standing on that podium, or what is going on this year.
If you want, I have the ISO of Trump about the corruption, which is kind of fun.
I don't think a lot of people heard the whole speech.
You want to play that?
Yeah, play the little ISO. And when a Secretary of State illegally stores her emails on a private server, deletes 33,000 of them so the authorities can't see her crime...
Puts our country at risk, lies about it in every different form and faces no consequence.
I know that corruption has reached a level like never ever before in our country.
That I thought was really well structured.
That was well put together.
Yeah, I thought that was well done, too.
I don't like the fact that he's screaming at the top of his lungs the whole story.
Then I need to say something.
Because when I watch this speech, and I'm getting pretty good at it, I'm more than ever convinced...
In quantum theory, there's multiple dimensions, and probably half of America is in a different dimension, and they see the same speech I saw, and they receive it really differently.
But here's the main thing, and this is why it's interesting you brought it up.
People who say they felt that Trump was screaming usually do not agree with what he said, or are...
Against him.
People who said he was passionate, or even angry, but the screaming thing is very specific.
When people say, I don't like he was screaming, then you probably received it in a different way than other people, which would mean you.
It's a possibility.
He was screaming, though.
Now...
Now, one of the things I've noticed, and this came up out of the Hitler-esque thing, and I have to say, and I'm wondering what kind of appeal this has, because I do know that Mussolini was extremely popular in Italy.
Very, people loved him.
And Mussolini did a rather good job of straightening out a lot of the problems the Italians had, besides making the trains run on time.
It was when he got hooked up with Hitler that everything started to decline.
Right.
Now, Trump, he made so many Mussolini moves.
He profiled himself.
He put himself in profile during the speech.
He did it over and over again, mostly turning to the left and then putting himself in profile and then very slightly lifting his chin.
That is a complete Mussolini move.
Yes, yes, you're right.
Yes.
You're right.
I saw that.
I saw it.
Now, Mussolini way, he took his chin way up.
Yeah.
I mean, he brought his head way up.
So he's looking almost 45 degrees up.
Trump did not do that.
He did not go that much.
Not far, no.
But I'm waiting.
I wasn't waiting.
He just never did.
But it was a Mussolini thing, and he did it a number of times.
And I don't know whether he was doing it on purpose.
The way he did it, I believe it was done on purpose to elicit some sort of something.
This guy is more of a manipulator than...
I mean, I think that's what Scott Adams kind of claims, too.
You know what I paid attention to?
And I've watched it probably four times now.
I spent one time watching most of the speech just paying attention to his right arm.
It looks like three, but he really has two moves.
The right hand goes up, and he has his finger in the air and his thumb back, almost like he would be shooting a toy gun in the air.
But then he will change it, and he'll put his forefinger to his thumb, and then the other three fingers come up, and then he does an okay sign, which sometimes, when he takes his arm down completely horizontally, it's like he's crooking his index finger back, So it's really, it's the okay sign, except it's held horizontally.
And he uses this to accentuate things he wants you to remember.
And I don't, I'm not a body language study student.
You know, I wish they'd bring that body language.
O'Reilly had this body language.
Yeah, she's always good.
I haven't, is she on recently?
I think they've nixed her because she's too good.
Because they're run by the Democrats.
That's why.
Well, anyway, she's not on anymore, but he does that.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
And he does that finger thing.
And it's a big, a major, and I think it's almost like if you look at him as a magician.
A conductor.
I look more like a conductor.
Okay, I can dig that.
Groovy, man!
Can you dig that, John?
I grok it too, baby.
Oh, wow, I said that.
I think of him as a magician, so he's doing sleight of hand and he's distracting you because you can't...
I'm always looking at that hand.
Yeah.
Maybe he could be, you know, doing something else.
Well, you know what?
There's someone out in our intelligence network who knows about this stuff.
I'm sure someone will get back to us.
It's a huge contrast to Hillary.
Hillary's main move is to have her palm facing inwards and her hand horizontal and she makes a chopping move.
She makes a chopping move with her hand.
Hey, I just realized something.
You know how for a long...
Bill Clinton, that's how I just thought of it.
Bill Clinton, when he's talking, and a lot of politicians do this, they will hold their fist closed with their thumb over the top of their forefinger and will be kind of going up and down like Trump would do, but with their thumb pointing towards you, with their thumb on top of the...
Yes.
Clinton's main move is that thumb thing.
And then he'll bite his lip once in a while.
Now, if you were to put your hand down and you put the thumb over your finger and then you switch to the Trump move, which is the three fingers out and the one finger crossed over held by the thumb, it is almost the antithesis of what the other politicians are doing.
It is a completely different signal.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
God, I wish I had gone to college.
Yeah, well, I'm glad you didn't.
So let's go on with the Cadell.
This is the follow-up.
This is clip one.
And this is actually John Boutelier, who's a real Republican hack, who was sitting there discussing this with Cadell and a representative Democrat strategist.
And unlike, and I will give Fox credit for this, unlike the other networks, especially CNN, they do not beat up The Democrat.
CNN beats up any Republican that comes out.
What that prick Don Lemon did to Kelly Conway or Kellyanne Conway was unbelievable when I watched it.
Wait a minute.
I don't think I saw that.
Yeah, we discussed it a couple of shows back.
All right.
Anyway, Pat Cadell.
Alright, here we go.
John, you're an old-line Republican.
What do you think?
You know, if you look back in the last hundred years, we've had three presidents who were rich and therefore independent.
Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy.
And each one of them got on the side of the little guy.
And when you're rich and the little guy embraces you, you can't be beaten because none of the normal stuff applies.
You can't say he's corrupt.
You can't say he's going to be bought off.
He's on our side.
Trump is getting on the side of 40-some-odd percent.
He needs more.
Tonight was, I think, a good step to get more of him.
He's like a bulldog.
Blue-collar billionaire.
By the way, by the way, Romney, who was rich, never got on the other side.
He was seen as prissy.
Plutocratic.
Yeah, and he talked down to people.
With no empathy whatsoever.
Right.
He talked down to them, and that 47% thing killed him.
I thought that was good.
I thought it was good.
I like that.
What network was this on again?
This was on Fox.
Okay, gotcha.
But it was a special team.
I've never seen these guys before.
But I think there's going to be a lot of changes.
Fox Team 6.
There's going to be a lot of changes at Fox.
So let's play the end of this.
This is Pat Cadell's final kind of Wrap up.
It's a devastating thing what happened to her with the emails and the FBI. It is really hurting.
But they have no more understanding of America.
And as I said before, Donald Trump threatens the political order that is failing the country.
That's how voters view it.
And that's why this speech was a success.
And he almost got where we've wanted him, Pat.
Close.
To this argument, which is...
The country, the system is corrupt.
The government and the economy is...
He did say it's rigged.
Corrupt is the key word.
Do you want to put a corrupt person in charge of a corrupt system?
Or do you want to send me an outsider to come clean it up?
And he almost used those words tonight.
The message was there.
If he does say that and sticks with it, he will win the election.
And what you will see from Secretary Clinton next week...
It's a different view of the world, but attacks on Donald Trump, saying he is unqualified, unprepared, with a view of the world that is out of step with our global challenges.
It was in the Podesta thing that Eric read, or Heather, when Podesta said Trump is temperamentally unsuited to be president.
All week, next week in Philadelphia.
All they're going to do is try to say he's a whack job who can't be trusted.
And that's what's unqualified and is a risk to our well-being and stability.
That's what you'll hear.
Well, they're going to say it in a lot tougher terms than the Republicans who are more closer to accurate about lock her up, lock her up.
And glad we addressed that issue tonight.
Now, just one follow-up clip.
I have this, and it follows up to what they are predicting for the Democratic Convention, which I agree with.
Because all I've heard from Hillary is pretty much the same thing, and those are all outlined in the WikiLeaks material.
Yeah, we'll get to that.
Yeah, we'll get to that next.
But let's listen to the idealistic, off of the PBS News, our Mark Shields.
Who's going to predict what's going to happen.
He saw the Republican convention as a bunch of negative stuff all slamming Hillary.
And the Democrats will never do anything like that.
And I'm keeping this clip because I'd like to see Shields say the same thing in a week.
But this is Mark Shields talking about...
What the Democrats will do, it's all going to be love and light.
Yeah, Democrats, if they're smart and they're not brain-dead, are doing two things right now.
They have a self-deprecating humor written for them.
So there was no humor in Cleveland.
And they're not making this a Donald Trump punch at the horn.
Bashing convention.
Mark Shields.
Yeah, that's a good one to keep around, Evergreen.
I'm keeping that one.
He's full of it.
I wanted to bring something up which ties into stuff I've learned from you.
This was the post-speech discussion on the Today Show.
I don't think he broadened his appeal here a little bit.
It was a very...
I don't know how many people, I think there are some people that wake up and say, wow, the country is deteriorating.
But I think a lot of people didn't recognize that country that he described either.
So I think it's a very polarizing speech.
On your point, this wasn't the shining city on the hill.
This wasn't morning in America.
He sounded like a wartime president last night.
This is very dark.
Dark.
Now, the wartime president, but really the, this was no morning in America speech, is continuously rolled out to show that whatever Donald Trump wants, he can never be like Ronald Reagan.
But when I went to look at this, and I did put the morning in America speech YouTube, you can watch it in the show notes, 845.noagendanotes.com.
The Morning in America speech was his re-election speech.
That was his second time around, not his initial go vote for me.
And, of course, we had prosperity for his second term.
And what I've learned from your cycle book, which I have a copy of here, is that we should have had the Ronald Reagan-like president in four years from now.
But I think Donald Trump is so enamored by Reagan that he thinks he's going to do the same, really the same trajectory, because when Reagan first came in, it was not great.
We had problems in the country.
It was the end of the cycle, and Jimmy Carter, who wasn't really as bad as they'd like everyone to believe, was just incompetent during that era.
He ended the 10-year downturn, which began in 1969.
It actually got rolling in 70.
Right.
And it was a decade, and Nixon was in there.
Nobody could fix anything, because you can't really fix anything during the cycle's downturn.
You can't do anything.
You can fool around.
I mean, that's what Obama's done.
He's fooled around.
He hasn't fixed anything.
There's no unemployment.
It's terrible.
Just take a look at shadow stats.
Right.
So what can happen is that if you can get...
So the cusp of greatness, and you look at every president who was great, or considered great, and you'll find that they're all on this 40-year cusp.
You've got...
Ronald Reagan, and 40 years earlier, in 1940, it was Roosevelt.
And 40 years earlier, I forgot, I think it was Teddy Roosevelt.
Anyway, you'll find those are the guys who are all the great presidents.
Usually the guys who fall short of getting elected that year, like the year before, like Jimmy Carter, they consider some of the worst presidents.
So whoever gets elected in this cycle...
Gets the down round.
You should get the down round, but this has happened, and this happened with Roosevelt.
Always an exception to the cycle.
That's on page 736.
It's actually not an exception.
It's just the way the cycle works.
If you're lucky enough to be Roosevelt when you could be re-elected for a third and a fourth term eventually, you can jump over.
The barrier that would be 1939, and now you're the president in 1940, and that cycle, that means you're automatically a great president, because that's part of the 40-year cycle.
So what Trump has to do, if he wins, if Hillary wins, I don't think she has the wherewithal to get past it, because people want her to fail.
They hate her.
Nobody likes the woman.
So if she gets elected, we're going to have a downturn.
We're going to have a collapse of some sort.
It's always a...
It could be really bad.
It's going to be bad.
And I would like to say I had a birthday dinner at the former New York banker's house.
And there's unanimous agreement, certainly in the city of Austin, that it's going to be very bad here.
We have these condos up everywhere, completely sold out, but these are all people who want to flip it.
These are not people who want to live in it.
They're investors and they're going to get screwed.
And we have restaurants going out of business now?
Yeah, you can see in some parts of the country you can always see a beginning.
How does a Mexican restaurant go out of business in Texas?
I don't know.
They must have lousy food.
So what can happen, like what happened with Roosevelt, he got over and he got elected for the upcycle.
And so he is now considered a great president.
If he was not, if he did not win that last election, or the third election where he got in, so he was there in 1940, and somebody, I don't know who ran against him, I'd have to look.
But somebody, if that other guy would have beat him, He'd have become, he'd be the superstar, and Roosevelt would have been seen as a flop, because he really didn't do anything during the Depression.
He created some sort of civilian conservation corps and things like that, which I think would still be a good idea.
Nobody's done.
So what Trump, so what happens if Hillary gets in, she won't get us past it because she just doesn't, nobody's rooting for her.
And they'll just vote somebody else in for the 2020.
But Trump is a business guy and he can, and he's a good, he does hyperbole well and he is a demagogue, which means he appeals to the popular taste.
That's all that means.
Yeah, it's not a bad thing.
We're demagogues.
We're demagogues.
We just fail at it.
That's all.
And so he might be able to push himself into a re-election campaign that would get him re-elected.
Then he would be considered this great guy.
Right, right, right.
I think that he thinks that far ahead and he sees the cycle and he must know the cycle or some of the cycles.
I think a lot of people know this cycle.
This cycle is not something I invented.
Well, come on, let's be easy.
I just promote it more than anybody else.
We have a book to sell here, so...
Yeah.
I'd like to play, I think I have three or four short clips from Trump's speech, which I thought were, which just to me were highlights that I think speak to people and who are like him for this.
And the first thing he did now, of course, all these speeches come out, you know, like a half hour before they're going to be delivered and it's under embargo.
But right away, all news media was, we have a leaked copy.
We have a leaked copy.
It wasn't a leaked copy.
They gave the copy away.
It wasn't leaked.
Of course it wasn't leaked.
That's what I'm saying.
But Trump did put a number of things into his speech, which he did not give in his embargoed pre-speech copy.
Two things.
He did wander off every so often.
You could tell when he did it because his voice changed.
Well, this was in the prompter because I went back and watched.
It was not in the script, in the original script that everyone had.
Many news ads are still saying, here's the full transcript.
But I'm looking for a particular word.
I can't find.
This must not be the right transcript.
So this was not an ad lib, but it was something that was put in.
To me, it was almost like a binary.
You have something, you put something in people's head early on, and then you're going to pay it off.
And it was also maybe a bit out of frustration, but this was completely unknown, and it wasn't really discussed in the context of this inserted piece in the speech.
Recently, I have said that NATO was obsolete because it did not properly cover terror.
And also, that many of the member countries were not paying their fair share.
As usual, the United States has been picking up the cost.
Shortly thereafter, it was announced that NATO will be setting up a new program in order to combat terrorism.
A true step in the right direction.
The overall meme, which is repeated everywhere, and it was actually, it was kind of, it was a little, I didn't feel good about it.
I was having dinner with Tina and one of her daughters, and, you know, she's, I don't know if she's majoring in political science, it goes back and forth, but she had done a paper and said, out of the blue, she says, well, you know, Trump says we're going to abandon NATO. I said, no, no, that's not true.
Yeah, and she got I'm upset because she, you know, had done a paper on this and she had all these sources and I'm sure her professor corroborated it.
But even if you go back to Trump's original foreign policy speech, which of course didn't get the same amount of attention as he wanted, he speaks of the obsolescence, which now he, that's the binary part.
Right after I did my foreign policy speech, I said, you know, we should really start to look at terror.
So, not only is this continually being lied about, because I cannot find anywhere where he said we're going to pull out of NATO. It's been very consistent.
And Obama went to the Balkans and said, hey, you guys need to pay up!
He was there for days, you remember?
Big stage, and hey, you need to pay up, you're 2% GDP, because of course we have gun sales, we have weapon sales to do.
So I thought that was very good that he put that in there.
And then the other part, which was most definitely not in the speech, was an ad lib.
Most definitely.
Most definitely.
Most completely definitely for sure not in the speech.
As your president...
I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ citizens from the violence and oppression of a hateful foreign ideology.
When I looked at all the transcripts, it said LGBT. So, obviously, someone very smart said, add the Q. And what I like so much about Trump is you can tell he's in his head.
You know, the guy's 70.
I know people who are, you know, in this age bracket, and, you know, they're all fine, love and light, but, you know, I don't care too much.
And this LGBT, or as we see, LGBTQIAP, It borders on ridiculous.
And you can see him going, whatever this means.
LGBTQ? Q? Which in this case means questioning.
Although that's up for debate because often LGBTQ is equated to queer.
But I believe it's questioning.
And I like just seeing him go, I don't know what the fuck is up with these people, but I'll protect you.
Whatever.
Whatever letter of the alphabet you want, I'll protect you.
I'll take care of you.
I'll take care of you.
I like that a lot.
And that made me laugh.
That really did.
And that it was put in later, someone, probably one of his kids.
He did.
He also did this thing about, I'm glad the evangelicals liked me, and then he does this thing, puts his hand over his heart.
I don't really deserve your support.
Yeah, I didn't deserve it.
He was very contrite.
And I thought that was good, and I was convinced that that was ad-libbed.
I think it was.
It was not in the scripts that I saw, so I believe that it is.
Yeah.
So he had a few things on there to keep the thing smooth.
I have another one.
And he had to do this.
I was actually surprised the speech was as good as it was.
I know.
Because you thought it was going to be boring.
It wasn't all that bad.
I thought it was going to be a complete dud.
It was going to be like that other speech that he read from a prompter.
No, no, no.
He had a good mix this time.
Yes, he had the mix down.
Which I think he knew he could do all along, probably.
Well, I just wondered if he was going to.
Yes.
Here's another highlight, which, of course, stuff we talk about all the time on the show regarding, you just mentioned about 10 minutes ago, the real unemployment numbers.
What about our economy?
Again, I will tell you the plain facts that have been edited out of your nightly news and your morning newspaper.
Nearly four in ten African-American children are living in poverty, while 58% of African-American youth are now not employed.
Two million more Latinos are in poverty today than when President Obama took his oath of office less than eight years ago.
Another 14 million people have left the workforce entirely.
Household incomes are down more than $4,000 since the year 2000.
That's 16 years ago.
If someone is poor and they heard this part of the speech, which is doubtful...
Very doubtful.
Very doubtful.
Although it was on primetime.
Yeah, but...
Yeah, nobody's...
The amount of people that I saw in the face bag, whether they're lying or not, saying, I'm not even going to watch.
But maybe some poor people saw it.
And Hillary said she wasn't going to watch.
Yeah.
Which makes zero sense, but okay.
She wants to be that way.
Now, this, of course, is...
I think this is what scared people like Van Jones.
And this is where I realized...
Yes, you could interpret this completely differently, and that is only based upon your programming that's in your head, and it doesn't make it invalid for anybody who sees this as scary dictator talk.
In this race for the White House, I am the law and order candidate.
I totally agree with that.
People, oh my god, he's going to be horrible!
Yeah, he's going to be a...
Mussolini.
Now, the last little bit, which I think was good.
Every day, I wake up determined to deliver a better life for the people all across this nation.
That was one of the few times he said this nation instead of our nation or our country.
It was pretty consistent.
I thought he said it quite a few times.
This instead of our?
No, it was consistently R, but he did a couple of decisions.
That have been ignored, neglected, and abandoned.
I have visited the laid-off factory workers and the communities crushed by our horrible and unfair trade deals.
These are the forgotten men and women of our country, and they are forgotten, but they're not going to be forgotten long.
Even though grammatically it didn't come off well, I don't like the way he ended that.
He dropped a lot of stuff grammatically.
But people who feel forgotten, which are in the so-called flyover states, I live in one, they understand this language.
They really understand this language.
Now, if you want, his final pitch, kind of the wind-up, which is two minutes, I chopped out a lot of the applause.
You want to hear that, just so we can get the final pitch piece?
Or do you feel that we've done enough there?
I don't know if we've done enough.
You might have to play it, and then we can kill it.
I have had a truly great life in business.
But now, my sole and exclusive mission is to go to work for our country, to go to work for you.
It's time to deliver a victory for the American people.
We don't win anymore, but we are going to start winning again.
But to do that, we must break free from the petty politics of the past.
America is a nation of believers, dreamers, and strivers.
I love that.
It's been so long since I heard someone say that.
And how is that dark?
It's been a long time since I heard that.
That is being led by a group of censors, critics, and cynics.
Also, very good.
Remember.
All of the people telling you you can't have the country you want are the same people that wouldn't stand.
I mean, they said Trump doesn't have a chance of being here tonight.
Not a chance.
The same people.
Always good to make a comparison to the people who guessed it wrong.
Oh, we love defeating those people, don't we?
No longer can we rely on those same people in the media and politics who will say anything to keep our rigged system in place.
Instead, we must choose to believe in America.
History is watching us now.
This was interesting.
I had never really...
Is this a common phrase, history is watching us?
I don't know how common it is.
I've heard it before.
Well, what it's typically is, you know, we want to be on the right side of history.
Oh, it's a variation of that.
Yeah, but it's a better one, I think.
I think it's because the right side of history is...
I don't like the right side of history commentary.
It's just...
You know, I mean, maybe it's better for that, but...
It's okay.
I thought he did a good job with the history of watching.
We don't have much time.
No time.
But history is watching.
It's waiting to see if we will rise to the occasion.
History waits for no man.
History is sitting there going, dude, you guys are effed.
And if we will show the whole world that America is still free and independent and strong.
Another thing I haven't heard in ages.
How's that dark?
That's what I like to know.
I am your voice.
That's big.
That's really good there.
That's what all the critics hated when he said that.
By the way, I can understand where they're coming from when he said something like that.
Because again, I don't think half these guys who were critical of the speech noticed the Mussolini thing that he did.
And they never brought it up.
Hitler?
It's nothing like Hitler.
I think they just did a crappy job.
I'm kind of done with this.
What I would like to play, though, is two more responses.
Now, this was...
People were so happy.
They were so happy.
Jon Stewart came on Stephen Colbert.
If you look at the face bags throughout the convention...
There was a consistent cry for, oh, oh, if only we had Jon Stewart!
We need Jon Stewart to make sense of it!
Where's Jon?
Every Obama bot I know, including the artist.
Oh boy, this is a time when we need Jon Stewart, Jon Stewart, Jon Stewart.
I saw this, by the way.
I don't know if you've witnessed it.
Of course I did.
Oh, okay.
I have a clip from it, that's why.
This was a Thursday night after, this was the second show they did on Thursday.
Colbert does what Letterman used to do, which is do two shows on Thursday and run the second one on Friday.
So he'd take the day off, he'd get a three-day weekend.
And Letterman used to do this because he liked to fly out to Montana to his ranch, and it gave him an extra day.
So they did this show, and so when Stuart, so they're yakking away about, it was a very lackluster show, generally speaking, but Stuart crops up from under the desk.
And when I saw him, I said, this guy looks like a bum off the streets.
How does anybody take him seriously?
He's wearing a t-shirt.
He's doing a Clooney.
This is a Clooney.
He's got the beard, he's dressed down, he's all for America, and he's superior, and he's here to save the day.
Like Clooney does!
Clooney saves everybody.
I've never seen Clooney in a t-shirt.
Well, you've seen Clooney when he started doing the beard.
Yeah, Clooney has t-shirts on all the time.
It's a dressed down Clooney look.
I am a follower of fashion.
So now as I watch this...
Follower of fashion.
Yes, me and Ray Davies.
Um...
As I'm watching this, pretty much the whole bit is about Sean Hannity, who Jon Stewart calls Lumpy.
Which, you know, no one cares about Sean Hannity.
In fact, Sean Hannity cares so little about Sean Hannity that SeanHannity.com directs the NoAgendaShow.com.
And he has for eight years.
No one cares about Sean Hannity.
But he's all pissed off about the people he has on and things he's saying.
It's just not...
You're right.
He's obsessive about Sean Hannity.
You're right.
Who cares?
And to wrap it up...
He's revealed his true reason for being there, which is actually quite honorable, but completely the wrong message for this audience, for his audience who just want to hear him say, Donald Trump sucks and is not going to win and here's why, and that's all they wanted, but he did not do a good job.
Listen, last minute.
Let's just say it for real.
Here's where we are.
Now, remember the things Trump said about America?
We're dreamers.
We aspire to things.
We try to get things done.
We're free and independent.
Either Lumpy and his friends are lying about being bothered by thin-skinned, authoritarian, less-than-Christian readers of Prompter being president.
Which he just read off the Prompter, which is kind of interesting.
Or they don't care.
Yeah, ironic.
As long as it's their thin-skinned, Prompter authoritarian tyrant narcissist.
You just want that person to give you your country back because you feel that you're this country's rightful owners.
There's only one problem with that.
This country isn't yours.
You don't own it.
It never was.
There is no real America.
There is no real America?
And people are cheering?
If you don't own it?
I mean, I know he's insinuating racism, I believe.
Saying, you white people.
You know, I saw that baffled.
I never came to any conclusion whatsoever.
Never thought to clip it.
I think you did a good job there because now I listen to it.
Yeah, it should have been clipped.
But listen.
I was just, what's he talking about?
Well, he wraps it up.
Play that thing from scratch again.
Scratch it is.
So let's just say it for real.
Here's where we are.
For real.
For real.
Either Lumpy and his friends are lying about being bothered by thin-skinned, authoritarian, less-than-Christian readers of Prompt are being president, or they don't care.
As long as it's their thin-skinned...
Hold on a second.
Stop, stop, stop.
Lumpy's not bothered by him becoming president.
He wants him to become president.
Did you notice that little twist?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But the funny thing is...
So first what he does is he says, he does that and there's no real American.
No one can own it.
There's no real American.
It's very disturbing.
But just listen to his...
...readers of Prompter being president, or they don't care.
As long as it's their thin-skinned, Prompter authoritarian tyrant narcissist.
You just want that person to give you your country back.
Because you feel that you're this country's rightful owners.
There's only one problem.
Is it not true, John?
I've always felt ownership of America.
Not like I own it, but I take ownership from my country.
I've always been proud of my country.
Even when we do dumb shit, you know.
But ownership, isn't that kind of the core of any citizen of any country?
You have ownership?
I mean, I finance part of the country.
Yeah, we pay into this.
Yeah, we pay into this deal.
Big time.
There's only one problem with that.
This country isn't yours.
You don't own it.
It never was.
There is no real America.
You don't own it.
You don't own patriotism.
You don't own Christianity.
You sure as hell don't own respect for the bravery and sacrifice of military, police, and firefighters.
Trust me.
I saw a lot of people.
I saw a lot of people on the convention floor in Cleveland with their Blue Lives Matter rhetoric who either remained silent or actively fought against the 9-11 first responders bill reauthorization.
I see you.
That was his real message.
And after that he wound up and Colbert came back and air horns and whatever.
But he has been lobbying for a couple years now for the reauthorization of the First Responders Act to continue to pay medical costs, etc.
for people who have become very ill after 9-11.
And I really appreciate that he's doing that.
But that was his only message.
He came there to do that.
I think he missed the mark.
I'd say.
By criticizing Sean Hannity.
I mean, he criticized Trump.
That's what I think he was there for.
But he did this whole Sean Hannity thing, and the payoff was, you don't care about our police like I do, which is what he's saying.
And he does care about them and our first responders.
So I think he completely missed the mark.
I think he screwed up.
Well, he's lost his touch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably true.
Now, on...
I think it was, you know, as the guy at the desk there, instead of Colbert, I think he's a little...
Colbert just still, to me, I think he's got good material, but he just seems like a phony.
He's just this personality...
No, he's an identity crisis.
He has a professional identity crisis because he doesn't want to be the guy that he was.
But he is.
Exactly.
He's still that same phony guy that he was on his original show.
Yeah.
Kind of, you know, he's got that dumb smile and it's just, the ill-fitting suits are very, they make him look like, it's like Brooks Brothers.
He looks like a banker more than he does anything else he does.
It's not funny.
Yeah.
It was great for that other show where he could play that character and he played it to the hilt, but he can't seem to get out of that character.
As far as I can tell, I watch the show all the time.
I still have my personal ratings.
I think Kimmel's show is the best.
I think Fallon's show is maybe the most creative, but I think it's tedious because of all the games.
He likes to play games with the guests.
You know, beer pong and whatever.
It just kind of gets old fast.
But I think he attracts a much younger audience.
Fallon is probably the best produced show.
Kimmel's, I think, the best show.
I agree.
I watch Kimmel more often.
And Colbert just, you know, falls through the cracks.
I think he's a good interviewer.
She picked up from the other show.
Colbert had Elizabeth Warren on.
And, uh, she said something, well, a couple of things, but she, this woman is odd.
She does odd things, and, you know, she reminds me so much of the Obot artist, it's not funny.
Oh, she even looks like her.
And she does.
And a lot of people have the Rachel Maddow cadence.
But she said something really interesting in this bit, Uncle Bear.
The Democrats, Hillary Clinton, are going to be fighting Donald Trump for the presidency.
Do you think the Democrats are underestimating Donald Trump?
Yes.
I think everyone is underestimating Donald Trump.
He is one dangerous man, and we need to take him really seriously.
Take him out now.
Did you hear that?
Take him out now.
Take him out now.
What does that mean?
Shoot him, I guess.
What else could it mean?
Take him out now.
He's the Republican nominee.
Take him out now?
How do you take him out now?
The election's not until November.
Take him out now.
That's odd.
Good catch.
Here's her strategy.
I think the Secret Service should have a talk with her.
I agree.
They've talked to other people saying weird stuff.
Here's her strategy.
Donald Trump, you're nothing but a thin-skinned bully.
Are you a bully?
He's asked, based upon all the tweets that she's been...
And I thought Colbert was good in this interview because he pushed back, but whenever he made a little counterpoint, it was drowned out by applause.
But I appreciated what he was doing.
And so he said, hey, you're tweeting all this stuff to Trump.
Are you a bully?
Trump, you're nothing but a thin-skinned bully.
Are you a bully?
Are you bullying him here?
Aren't you stooping to his level?
Are you kidding?
I mean, Marco Rubio.
Oh, that poor little billionaire.
Did I hurt his feelings?
Apparently, if you have money, then bullying doesn't matter.
I'm just pointing that out.
If you're a billionaire, then bullying is not an issue.
Boo-hoo.
Then it's not an issue.
Bye.
By talking about his policies that he doesn't have?
Well, clearly she's never looked at his website.
That's just a lie.
No, that's a great lie.
I like that lie.
You may not agree with his policies, but he certainly has them.
They like to do that.
All the time.
Hillary pushes that the most.
All the time.
And Hillary, I've never heard her have a solution for anything.
I mean, come on, give me a break here.
This is a guy who just went on national television and said basically to all of America, be afraid of each other.
I didn't hear the be afraid of each other.
I heard united, unify, we're dreamers, we can do it.
...of each other.
And you listen to a speech like that, and I don't know how there's anybody left in America who isn't afraid of Donald Trump.
And this is the big thing.
It's the dangerous, be afraid of him.
That's also in the WikiLeaks.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Dangerous Donald, which never took off.
That was trying to counter Crooked Hillary with Dangerous Donald.
That did take off.
Quick one here.
This was...
Oh, this is CNBC Joe Kernan, and he was talking to the Clinton Cash author of the book, which, as you saw, Breitbart...
Breitbart was actually interesting how this worked.
You had Breitbart...
No, first you had Anonymous promoting this 19-minute Clinton Crimes, which was a setup to the WikiLeaks release.
Then we have the WikiLeaks release.
Breitbart, in complete concert, releases for a limited time for free only, which is always a beautiful way to do it.
You had to register for it and all this stuff.
You could see the hour-long Clinton Cash documentary.
Which, I have to say, in watching that, and it was fun watching Tina watch it, because you forget so much when you think about Travelgate.
Of course, Whitewater, everyone knows that.
And really, Monica Lewinsky was such a huge distraction from all these other things.
Yeah.
But here is Kernan, and this is kind of slipping into mainstream, CNBC not really mainstream, the marginalized financial television channel.
But he does say something interesting.
So here's what happens.
Laureate Education hires Bill Clinton as the honorary chancellor.
He gets $16 million.
The head of Laureate Education, a guy named Douglas Becker, also runs a non-profit called the International Youth Foundation, which is less than a mile away in terms of where the Laureate offices are.
The State Department sends $55 million to the International Youth Foundation, which then does joint projects with Laureate Education.
That, to me, is something that warrants serious investigation.
Well, maybe there is something going on.
Did you see Laura Ingraham's speech at the convention?
At the end, she pointed up to all the media booths at the very top and said, when do you finally go and look at phonies and hypocrites and when do you do your job?
When will that happen?
Where's Woodward and Bernstein on any of this?
Is that you?
Are you both?
It's a great question.
Well, it's a great question.
That's not a great question!
I mean, you know, I have to say, the investigative news at the New York Times, Washington Post...
I heard you ramping up for it, but I had already set it up.
ABC News have done very good work in this area.
The most shocking thing to me is, all this stuff has come out last year, a front-page story in New York Times, Washington Post...
In all the debates, in all the interviews that Hillary Clinton has done with the mainstream media, she has not been asked one question by the media on these topics, which to me is shocking.
I think any other political figure in America with a 4,000-word front-page investigative piece in the New York Times alleging money from the Russian government, the transfer of uranium, would at least warrant one question from the mainstream media in terms of a political debate, and it's never happened.
It's really shocking to me.
Yeah, I agree.
Oh, it's so shocking.
I've never seen...
I'm shocked!
I'm shocked!
Someone sent me a clip from, I think a month ago, from Daryl, Congressman Daryl Issa.
And this, of course, must have been on Fox, but I hadn't heard this before.
I might point something out that has nothing to do with today but has everything to do with tomorrow.
There's an ongoing investigation of the Clinton Foundation and of the cash that flowed in from sources in Russia and around the world.
That ongoing investigation includes the President of the United States and how he would essentially recruit this money and Hillary Clinton would do things that were beneficial to these companies, these countries in some case.
That is still ongoing, and so that maybe is troubling, is why was he on the airplane when, in fact, he may have been guilty of wrongdoing himself in another investigation going on that the FBI director has not been willing to talk about?
There is definitely something going on still.
The Clinton Foundation isn't, you know, something, nothing may come of it, but there is investigations going on for sure.
Maybe just...
I think we should probably take a break and then move...
I'd like to talk about the WikiLeaks DNC and of course about the Tim Kaine.
I think we should talk about that.
Yeah, Tim Kaine.
I'll just end it with Chris Matthews, who, of course, did not at all like the Republican Convention.
Everybody was pretty tired.
I was listening to a number of the Sirius channels, because they were all live, the POTUS channel, which I just call the gay channel.
It's crazy.
This progressive channel has no straight voices on it anymore.
I feel alienated.
But Matthews, you really nailed it.
This is really what they all care about.
We'll see you in Philadelphia.
Philadelphia's going to be fun.
I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
A lot more celebrities, a lot more Hollywood, a lot more bold print.
A lot less intrigue.
Maybe less anger.
Celebrities.
Celebrities.
The city of brotherly love and sisterly affection.
Oh, yes.
Don't forget, it's the city of brotherly love and sisterly affection.
Which means...
They added that?
Yeah.
Oh, brother.
Yeah, listen.
That's a good one.
Listen, the guy in there goes...
Listen, that's funny.
Here we go.
Less intrigue.
Maybe less anger.
I've got to back a little further.
There it is.
We'll see you in Philadelphia.
Philly's going to be fun.
I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
A lot more celebrities, a lot more Hollywood, a lot more bold print.
A lot less intrigue.
Maybe less anger.
Maybe less anger.
There'll be no anger at Philly.
It's the city of brotherly love and sisterly affection.
No!
Don't forget it.
So it's a lesbian town now?
Yeah, he's saying it's gay and lesbian.
That's exactly what he's saying.
But you'll see, the lesbians, just like LGBTQ, they will want to have the L first, so it will be sisterly affection and brotherly love.
You just watch, you can wait for it to happen.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Convention Watcher Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Kerr.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air subs in the water, all the damies and knights out there.
Yes.
In the morning to everybody in the chat room.
Almost everybody in the chat room.
Noagendastream.com.
We appreciate you showing up.
In the morning to the artists for episode 844.
That was the witch hunt episode.
And we say in the morning to Jay Young, who had...
The Pokemon Go artwork, I like the most.
What we like most is how he had done the No Agenda font in the Pokemon font.
I don't know if that's existing.
You can probably get that out there, I guess.
The font's probably available.
But it was very good.
It was not easy to find.
The art we wanted.
There was multiple good pieces.
There was a lot of good pieces, and we had a couple at the base, and then we always have this thing, people should, artists should know this.
That's why you shouldn't give up.
There's a number of pieces, I think at least two in that batch, that were, the conversation goes like this.
Well, we can use this because it's very specific to what we talked about.
This is kind of specific to what we talked about, but we're going to talk about it again.
It might be a good evergreen piece.
Right.
And so then we push it off.
So some pieces that are...
So then we go for what we consider the best art per se.
Yeah.
And it's just...
We spend a good...
One or two minutes on this.
20 minutes sometimes?
Well, actually, sometimes it does drag on.
But...
Then when we have to go to the Evergreen, it says, oh my...
We just keep plowing through them.
Anyway.
But the appreciation we have...
For the artists doing this is very, very high.
It's why we always talk about the artists, even before we thank people who've donated funds.
So we do appreciate it.
Yes.
Yes.
It adds a dimensionality to the podcast that no other show has.
Yes.
All right.
Well, let's thank a few people, starting with Sir David Rose in Clarkston, Michigan.
He came in with $800.85 cents.
Mmm.
008s and Hacksore.
A proper boobs donation for the best podcast in the universe.
I truly appreciate the time and effort you two put into the show in terms of quality content and entertainment value.
It's unmatched.
Please accept this humble donation from a loyal black knight.
Thank you, sir.
For jingles, I request that Adam choose his favorite, Obama No No No remix, and John's favorite Manning clip, along with Karma for all the No Agenda listeners.
Okay, what is your favorite Manning clip?
Well, I think, I guess, you can find any Mac Daddy clip.
Yeah, I probably can.
Let's see if we can give this a shot.
This is my favorite No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No remix. No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No.
Hey! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hey, listen.
Hey, you're in my house.
Hey.
Shame on you.
He's a Mac Daddy!
There we go.
You've got karma.
And thank you very much.
Black Knights of David Rosa.
Mercy Buckets.
Mercy Buckets.
Sorry, Duke Nussbaum.
Yes.
In Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Living the good life.
34567.
Greetings from Forest City, North Carolina.
Because it's not in Virginia Beach.
Woo!
Woo!
Beautiful town, Forest City.
I had Duke Nussbaum here working away at the Facebook Data Center.
Please, more three-hour shows.
No jingles required.
Yeah, so he lives in Virginia Beach, Virginia, but he actually sent me...
He's working at the Data Center.
Nuff said.
We'll never mention that again because it's good for us.
Now...
What he's referring to is the mailing I sent out on Saturday, where, because we had very little money coming in on the PayPal account, I bitched about, I think, you hate our show, and it's too long.
And I do complain, you know, the show's supposed to be two hours and 45 minutes.
Let me say, the number one thing we talk about after the show is, was it too long?
Yes, this is true.
We always talk about it.
And I'm mostly, and I'm grousing more than he, than Adam does.
Well, and you're grousing because you don't, it's just technically not possible for you to really have control over that, and I try to have control, but I am out of control, so it's always my fault.
Yes, this is true, because you are the producer, so when the show goes long, it's because you let it go long.
So when I see your newsletter, of course I feel personally responsible, and I agree.
I totally agree with you.
I don't think I've worked as many hours in a day for these shows, really the past month, Ever in the entire history of the show.
And we've gone long.
We've gone 3.09 on one of the shows, and then this one, which I tried to put the kibosh on by bitching about it during the show.
We went 3.02, or still over 3.
And I liked it.
If it was under 3, at least it's okay.
Well, at least it's under 3.
Because less is more.
I mean, this is just programming.
This is how you program your show.
Yeah, that's right.
Less is more.
And here's one of the things that we want to avoid, which is running out of steam at the end of the show.
And people say, well, okay.
Instead of what you really want to do when you do these shows is you want people to want more.
Yes.
I mean, that's just an old way of doing things.
I wish the show was longer.
Exactly.
So when you see donations, support for the show, low, then we know we failed one way or the other.
There was clearly not enough demand at the end of the show for more show.
I get it.
And I feel more responsible than you should, actually.
Well, you can feel responsible, but it's beside the point.
It just happens.
We've been doing this for a while.
We know how this works.
Now, we have a bunch of people that donated because I sent this thing in complaining.
And, you know, it gets people, oh, okay, well, I'll donate finally.
A lot of people, first-timers.
But they all say, no, I like it long.
There's not one person that says, you're right, John.
Yeah, I did.
Yes, except Adam.
So, you know.
It has been quarter three almost every night that I get to bed and 7.30 awake.
It's insane.
See, if we hired a producer, then it wouldn't work because we can't afford to hire a producer.
So we do it ourselves, which is also a big benefit because you're doing it yourself.
You get to do exactly what you want to do.
You don't have to explain, go back and say, oh, this is no good.
But I'm just saying physically tiring.
That's all.
I'm just saying physically tiring right now.
Well, these conventions are rough.
And it chews up a lot of the show.
Yeah, but it's not just conventions, John.
No, screw that.
We had a coup in Turkey.
We had a shooting.
There was two more people killed today in Germany.
With a guy with a machete.
Another machete?
Yes!
You sure it's not the same old machete?
No, this is in Rötlingen, which is right near Stuttgart.
Let me see.
How many people?
Oh, man killed one person.
Woman wounded two others.
I mean, so, you know, I can't leave that alone after the show.
I got to go look into that.
My phone is already blowing up.
I get pictures, everything.
The media, you can't trust them.
You can't rely on them.
They don't have to have anything for you.
Well, we have to vet it first.
Yeah, well, I don't need to vet the guy bleeding on the street that comes from our intelligence network.
I get it.
Kevin Rosenberg comes in with $337.23.
He's in Albuquerque, New Mexico, 33723, and all he says is his note is, Kevin Rosenberg, Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Hello, Kevin Rosenberg.
Thank you for your courage.
Maybe he's got some.
I didn't see any email, but maybe...
I'll check while you move on.
Okay.
And we will get him some karma, whatever the case.
Yeah, I'll do it right now, in fact.
You've got karma.
No, I got nothing on Rosenberg.
Another, this has no known, I did look in the email to find something.
Jason Lewis came in from Macon, Georgia.
33333.
Macon, Georgia, by the way, I've been through.
I find this to be one of the most fascinating towns in Georgia.
It is so old-fashioned.
It's an old-fashioned town.
It's still alive.
It's not like a dead town.
It's a very...
I liked Macon, Georgia.
I think it was really great.
I was driving through.
I'm hanging out.
I think I spent the night there, and I... Is this the...
I think I've been...
In Macon, do they have the trolleys still driving through their seat mainly for tourists now, but it's trolleys, and you have...
I don't remember that.
Tree-lined streets, and it's very...
Well, this is not that picturesque.
Oh.
But there was one thing I said, this is a town I think a lot of people could easily live in.
It's very comfortable.
The people are very nice.
Until then, I went to get gas, and I was kind of nixed on the town as any sort of place you'd want to live.
Because?
Because at the gas station, on every pillar, there was one of these electric bug zappers, and there was piles of bugs that was at least three feet high.
That's it.
And all you heard was...
Millions of bugs.
Yeah, but there's no Zika in Macon.
Yeah.
You're right.
I was thinking of Savannah.
I'm mistaken.
Oh, Savannah.
It's dynamite.
Thank you.
Savannah and Charleston, for people who want to travel to the United States, two of the most picturesque towns in the world.
Thank you.
But anyway, Macon's got a lot of bugs.
DJ the Millennial came in.
DJ the Millennial!
DJ Torezzo!
33333 from Cambridge, Massachusetts.
I'm so grateful to you both for what you do.
I often listen to each show multiple times and have hit several of my friends and my boss in the mouth over the last few years after reading the newsletter.
I realize that it's time to step up and start my path to knighthood.
Hopefully, fellow listeners will also step up so that the show can always be over there, over three hours long.
Okay, sure.
I would like to request a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
He says, I want you to continue to be awesome.
Do what you do best.
Deconstruct the news and protest reality.
Protect reality.
I hate reality.
One other, just briefly.
Thank you, DJ the Millennial.
How about Ivanka saying, I'm a millennial?
Because they put a different face on millennials for me.
Yes, she did say that.
I thought that was very interesting.
I liked it a lot.
Of course, it's to appeal to the Bernie voters.
I get it.
But it was well done.
And also, like, yeah, if all millennials were like her, what a wonderful world this would be.
If it's not too much to ask, and if no one else has a title, I'd like to request the title, Sir Valance, Be Saved from My Eventual Knighthood, Love and Light.
DJ The Millennium from Massachusetts, you've got no requests here for sound, so we'll give him a karma and move to the associate execs.
You've got karma.
John Height in Folsom, California, up here by the prison.
250 bucks.
I visited that prison once during the era when it was a maximum security place.
Folsom's Prison Blues.
And it had Manson in it.
They've lowered their security rating.
He says one thing.
The shows are not too long.
I enjoy three-plus-hour shows.
We should have an intermission, maybe.
But also just record the intermission.
Just have, you know, for like 10 minutes and I can go to the bathroom.
Yeah, music.
I have some of the clips and some of the stuff, some of the mixes people send us.
Yeah, just do an intermission and then come back and then...
Anyway, that's John Heide.
He's 250 bucks from Folsom.
Give him a karma as we move along.
Absolutely.
Thank you very much, sir.
You've got karma.
Keith Gibson in Holly Springs, North Carolina, $250.
Outstanding work.
Keep it up.
He'll take a karma.
Of course he'll receive a karma.
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
Christoph, was it Pythode?
Pythode?
Pythode.
Pythode.
Pythode, yeah.
That's P-Y-T-H-O-U-D in Sun City, Arizona.
3-2-3-4-5-6, one of my favorite donations, since donations are low, he says.
I thought this would be the perfect opportunity to get my first associate executive producership and claim my place in the No Agenda Roundtable.
So he'd become a knight, apparently.
Is he on the list, I think?
Yes, he is on the list.
The guy saved my life, or at least my sanity.
I moved to the U.S. in 2013 from Switzerland.
Gitmo Nation cheese?
No, that would be Holland as Gitmo Nation cheese.
That's Lowlands.
That's Lowlands.
I don't know.
Banks.
As a result of marrying the love of my life...
Gitmo Nation fondue.
Oh, I like it.
That's what it'll be.
Fondue.
Probably high cuisine.
As I settled down, wanting to be informed about what was going on in my new country, I started exposing myself to the mainstream media.
To put it mildly, it felt very wrong from the outset.
Like it would slowly but surely render me insane or stupid.
This is the transition from one dimension to the other.
Where you hear the same information, you just process it differently.
You've been listening to David Icke?
No, I have not.
And I'll talk about it later.
I was working on one of our other projects, which we'll talk about eventually, with the programming and programming of...
You know, like you have broadcast programming.
Top of the hour of the news.
Easy.
Programming top 40 radio.
First of all, it really starts at 46 past the hour because that's when you come out of commercials.
You want to be first out of commercials with a huge hit.
Then you're going to play two more top 40s, then you get top of the hour, then you get a recurrent, then you get a golden old, then you go to a top 10 hit.
That's programming.
But programming, of course, is also, and it's two sides of the same coin, it's like code.
You can have code that runs a computer, you can have code that runs your brain and makes you feel good about certain things, the order of songs.
So that's why I came up with it.
It's...
I'm sorry I asked.
You'll be even more sorry later then.
Uh-oh.
Fortunately, I'm a long-time fan of John since the Golan days when PC Magazine was a five-pound paper presentation.
It was.
Yeah, it was.
And even...
Those were the good old days.
And even the ads were interesting.
Yes, yes.
Yes, that's true.
And I would always read John's column first.
So I decided to check out No Agenda Show John kept mentioning.
Boy, do I regret not doing that sooner.
The first podcast I listened to opened my eyes on what was really going on in Ukraine in late 2013 and shattered my worldview.
I also became an instant fan of the smart and authentic Adam McCurry.
Since...
Since then, I've been hooked.
Hooked, I tell you.
And converted all my subscriptions to dishonest publications like Newsweek.
Or converted.
It means canceled.
The Washington Post, Economist, Wired, etc.
into donations.
Oh, it converted into donations to the show.
I wish every free-rolling douchebag out there would do the same so that you guys could go on for a very long time.
Very nice.
So he will be knighted as Sir Christoph the Cantankerous, a name suggested by his beloved Gitmo Nation fondue Lady Christine.
Supposedly, that reflects his personality.
No jingle request to compensate for the long note, just some home building and startup karma.
Of course we can give that to you.
You've got karma.
Oh, John, I forgot to clip it.
Did you notice, Ivanka, how she would have this slight little giggle when she was in between sentences?
No.
Oh, crap, now I'm mad I didn't clip it.
She had this, the cutest thing, she went...
You know, like Comey has that kind of guttural thing.
She has...
I'll dig it up for Thursday.
Very cute.
Anyway, I don't worry.
Yeah, she's everybody's sweetheart.
$820,000 worth of plastic surgery can get you...
I don't know.
I saw her when she was a little kid.
What plastic surgery did she get?
What was interesting about that post, if someone edits their post, you can see what the previous edit was.
And I swear to God.
So the post was, yeah, this is really easy with $820,000 worth of plastic surgery.
The previous post was $520,000 worth of plastic surgery.
I guess you didn't think it was enough and added another $300,000 on top of it.
These people are dumb and insane and sick.
No, they're not dumb.
They're sick.
Well, no.
They're sick.
Yeah, they're insane.
They have different programming.
It's okay.
Sir Haggis in Brandington, Florida.
23456, one of my favorites.
Says, the show has been phenomenal.
Thank you.
Could I get a Pelosi-Trump jobs karma for my...
My review at work.
Sorry.
Obama, no, no, no.
Karma, thanks.
Thanks, chums.
Keep up the great work.
The rest of you, stop being so fucking cheap.
Now, we only do this by request.
Because we're not sure if the Pelosi-Trump job karma works.
If it really works.
So, please let us know if that works.
It's very important for...
Yeah, it's very important for us to know.
And what did he want?
He wanted a...
Here we go.
Jobs.
Jobs.
And jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
I've been watching you.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Come on, where was I?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Hey, listen, I wasn't sat you saying.
You've got karma.
Josh, Josh Hastings in Chicago, Illinois, $200.33.
Attention, drunk donation.
So I guess I'll...
Hey, finally.
It's been too long since my last donation.
I'm not overboard, just broke.
I love every show I listen to.
I need a favor.
My last donation, I asked for job karma and it worked!
I got the promotion, except I regret it now, so I need more job karma to make my life easier.
I'm going to hit the bowl and sleep now.
I can't wait for MSM deconstruction.
Be well.
P.S., can you throw a feeler out for a Chicago meetup?
Yeah, there's the Chicago meetups all the time.
Yeah, there is, I think so.
He needs a karma.
Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
Karma for you, sir.
Enjoy the bowl.
You've got karma.
Adam, uh, Adam Jake, Jake-weez.
Jake-weez.
Jake-weez.
How about Jacques?
Oh, no, it's Jake-weez.
He has a pronunciation guy.
He's got a thing right in there.
What the hell is that?
Jake-weez.
Jake-weez Woodworth, Louisiana.
I never knew there was a town called Woodworth.
$200.02.
Hey, John, I submitted a first-time donation for Sunday's show for $200.02.
Sorry if you get three copies of my note.
Just wanted to make sure you received one copy.
I hope this donation finds you well.
I've been listening without donating for a long...
over two years.
While only feeling a small amount of guilt.
However, the recent lack of donations has compelled me to step up to the plate at least once.
I'm an automation tech on an oil and gas production platform in the Gulf of Mexico.
With layoffs happening around me and the price of oil down, my purse strings have been a little tight lately.
If applicable, I'd like a dedouching.
You've been de-douched.
And then living the mac and cheese life with some job karma.
Love the show.
Keep it up.
Living the mac and cheese life.
Mac and cheese.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
And finally, last but not least, is Steve Marchi in San Jose, California.
$200.
ITM, gents, thank you for your courage.
The shows have been fantastic as usual, and I'm sorry that donations have been down.
I'm kicking a little extra over my subscription to show my trio of douchebags.
Uh-huh.
And here they are.
Pete.
Douchebag.
Jack.
Douchebag.
And Rob.
Douchebag.
That is time to donate more.
Okay.
Right.
For that.
Yeah, definitely.
You've got karma.
And that does conclude our executive, associate executive producer group of well-wishers, and we want to thank them profusely.
We only had one.
When I sent that newsletter out, I have to say, we had one, and it was an associate executive producership.
I don't remember which one of this group.
And then we got all the rest of them that came in within the six, seven-hour period that followed the newsletter, which I'm glad everyone responded positively.
I know now that We didn't screw up the last show.
Not too badly, but we still need to keep the time in check.
I think we do need to be careful.
We don't want to run on esteem.
That's exactly it.
Well, thank you, executive producers and associate executive producers.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I feel a lot better about the work that's gone into it.
Because the value for value, it works on all sides, obviously.
That's how it does come together.
These are real credits.
Use them wherever credits are accepted and valid because they are just as valid as any other movie or Hollywood credit.
Just don't get the hookers.
And, of course, we'll be thanking everybody at the $50 level or above later on in the program.
And please, please, please remember we have another show coming up on Thursday.
Yeah, you may think we're your guardians of reality.
You may think all kinds of them.
But you definitely need to propagate us.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Before we get into heavy clips or anything, I think we should...
I want to say that I also read...
I've now read both platforms.
Now, of course, the party platform, Republican or Democrat, doesn't necessarily mean that that's what their nominee is going to fight for, but it should be.
The thing that I heard most often about the Republican platform was pretty much went as following.
Most LGBT unfriendly in history!
Well, then you want to play my clip of Peter Thiel.
Here we go, Peter Thiel.
I am proud to be gay.
I am proud to be a Republican.
But most of all, I am proud to be an American.
Lock him up.
Lock him up.
I don't pretend to agree with every plank in our party's platform, but fake culture wars only distract us from our economic decline.
And nobody in this race is being honest about it except Donald Trump.
Now, the thing, and I didn't get this clip for a whole bunch of reasons, but most response from the media who wanted to really rip him to shreds, and he was a pretty short speech, and most, of course, were saying, this is the asshole, the billionaire who's trying to kill free speech by suing Gawker out of existence.
I want to point out That the reason why Peter Thiel is angry is because they outed him.
And I believe this is actually his real coming out.
I don't think he has ever said anywhere, I'm gay.
Did he actually come out anywhere even after Gawker did that?
So there is a place to come out at the Republican National Convention.
And I thought that was genius.
No one picked up on that.
Or they didn't want to.
You have a standing ovation for that.
Yeah, no, I'm talking media.
I don't care about the people there.
Media, media, media.
Everyone's...
Just, you know, pounding.
Sorry, bad, bad word.
But yeah, I think he came out at the Republican National Convention.
That needs to be commended.
You know, these guys, I thought most of the speakers, I liked the religious, the preacher was great.
I mean, there's a lot of these people that gave speeches.
Yeah.
I thought it was a good group of people.
I don't know why I was voting about it.
Now, what we need to talk about as we move into the WikiLeaks DNC hashtag is two things.
One, well, we have Twitter.
It's hard to see, but I could say arguably they were definitely...
trending of these WikiLeaks but Facebook really did something quite extraordinary oh yeah and even if you wanted to post a link in a post that that contained a link to now I don't know if it's just WikiLeaks org if it's the full URL to the to the DNC hacked emails but you get a warning that says sorry this this could possibly contain malicious code This is not safe.
You know, you can't post this.
Now, this is so crazy that Facebook is doing this.
One thing you should note.
I want to just make this point clear.
They put the link there in the warning.
Yes.
So they said, you cannot post this link, and then they put the link.
So if somebody wanted to cut and paste it to see what the hell they're talking about.
No, no.
Yeah, true.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
First it was when you tried to click on the link from a post, it would say warning.
But then when you wanted to post onto Facebook, it would not allow you to post if it had those links.
You see the difference?
I do see the difference, but the one I saw was the one that blocked you.
I understand, but you're not on Facebook.
So if you go onto Facebook, which you're not, and you want to make a post, hi friends, look at this great link, and you post a link to the WikiLeaks DNC, you get a warning saying we can't post this because it has dangerous content.
That's the morning one that I retweeted that somebody posted on Twitter, and it does have the link in there.
Oh my god.
You're not understanding.
Not the link.
They don't have a link.
John, I understand what you're saying, but I... It's not true.
Okay.
So, people had posted this link.
Okay.
Then Facebook said, hey, this link is dangerous and it has the link.
You can copy and paste it.
But after that, if you wanted to make a post about the WikiLeaks, it would not let you make the post.
So there was two levels of escalation.
Ah, okay.
Now, what Facebook and Twitter are doing is not only dumb, it is incredibly dangerous.
And let me just explain it briefly.
Okay.
And this, of course, is from my mind influenced by the great work of Professor Theodore.
So we talked earlier about programming, the media term.
It's also the action of putting instructions into something.
So these really come together, particularly in TV. As long as we've had television, and we don't bring it up enough anymore, I think, on the show...
TV programming is solely meant to sell you advertising.
I don't care what anyone else says.
It used to be different with news.
It used to be different with news, right?
It was a lost leader.
I think with pure news, yes.
It used to be that way.
Yeah.
But now news is also a profit center.
Drug companies own it.
Yes.
Okay, so drug companies.
Then we'll say, all programming on television ultimately is meant for you to see ads and buy products, and enough of you to come in so that they can tell the advertisers, your increase in products is because of our advertising.
But what this does is it creates a cycle.
It's a fear cycle.
And we've talked about this, too.
You don't buy this car, you'll never get laid.
You don't have this beer, you're certainly never going to get laid.
If you don't take this medication, your family's going to fall apart, you're going to wind up in a depression hole, and you'll have anal leakage.
All of this stuff.
So we have this cycle.
And of course, now you're in this, oh, I have to buy this, you can't afford it, so you get into debt.
And the frustration happens.
And I think the frustration was really growing to a pretty big proportion.
And then we got social media.
And what I think, now I'm really understanding it, social media was so great because the unheard people, not everyone has the voice, everyone wants to be heard, and this is what comments are about, etc.
If you just want to say, no, I believe in this, and someone comes in, you argue, and it's quite safe to do this, back and forth.
You can call each other names, you can do whatever you want.
But it's a way to vent your frustrations.
And of course, some of it's an echo chamber, but really, what you want is, and I can show you example after example, post something, someone from the counterpoint comes in, 15 pages of argument ensues, but people are getting some of their aggression out.
If you remove that, if you remove the opposition...
There will be no one left to argue with and to be angry about and this is going to make it spill onto the streets.
It is the most dangerous thing for them to do.
I think that we would have had riots and problems, certainly in the United States, years ago if it were not for social media.
Of course, it started with blogs and then comments, and from comments we went to the shorter form and the Facebook form, which is really an interactive.
You can't even paste inline links and stuff.
Facebook is meant to keep you there, but it's all about the discourse.
You take that away, the trouble is going to come.
And it's because there's no more outlet.
And then, by the way, all you need is one guy to say this.
I am your voice!
And that's all you need.
It's genius, but I think it's very, very dangerous what's happening.
And Facebook, they need, and Twitter, they need to be aware of this.
Okay, a couple things.
I like this theory, and I think you're correct.
And in fact, since I'm the cycle guy, we have missed somehow a cycle of black riots, besides the one in Ferguson, where the towns burnt to the ground.
Well, Ferguson pretty much was it, but you didn't see much more than that, like you did in the 60s, where Detroit was burnt to the ground, and Los Angeles was burnt to the ground.
Watts riots and those sorts of things, major, major things.
Right.
And it wasn't the kind of triggering mechanism.
It was just frustration.
Here's the only thing I would take issue with.
These guys are true believers.
Zuckerberg and Dorsey, they are Democrats.
Like every other billionaire, which these guys are both, every other billionaire in the country, they're Democrats.
And we talk about this a lot.
The rich are Democrats.
They're not Republicans.
The Republicans typically are upper middle class, maybe some upper class, but not as much as the Democrats.
Buffett's a Democrat.
Gates is a Democrat.
Balmer's a Democrat.
All these guys are Democrats.
And Peter Thiel's the only one of the few Republicans in the group.
And who's, you know, a Republican.
Milo, Milo.
Milo.
And then, so what you have is these guys think they're doing the party a favor.
They don't give a hoot about what you just said.
No, I know they don't.
Of course they don't give a hoot about it.
And in fact, I expect, and there's another throwback, I expect Facebook soon to be using a new version of the Bozo filter.
I think that's where they're going to go.
The Bozo filter is a fabulous idea.
And I'm sad that the Bozo filter went away.
Perhaps you should just code.
Explain the Bozo filter for our younger listeners.
We actually used to use the Bozo filter on the early PC Magazine online forums.
And what it is, and I call for it every once in a while, what a Bozo filter is is that it creates a piece of code that you are identified as Bozo, Eric B, and you're making trouble in the forums.
You're just making a fuss, and nobody likes you.
Excuse me, by the way, Void Zero, Mountain Vortex, listen up.
Thank you.
So you are a jerk in the forums and you've got to be controlled, but you can't be just bounced all the time or you end up like, you know, there's a certain podcast that you keep bouncing people and they get ridiculed for it.
And the guys come in with different names, they do all these different things, they become subversive.
The Bozo filter just is like a flag on your name.
So you keep posting.
There's no evidence that you're going to be bounced.
You look like you're still there.
So you're posting, but nobody sees it.
But you do.
So you look at the thread, and you see your post, but no one's responding.
You see the rest of the forum.
Everything looks normal, except your posts.
Are actually not going on the forum, the big forum.
It just goes on kind of a fake version of the forum that you're seeing.
So you see your own.
Oh, I posted.
Well, I don't understand why nobody's saying anything to me.
And you go on and pretty soon you realize you're a bozo.
In fact, I would recommend, certainly to Twitter, if you want to block somebody, instead of...
The block function, the way it works now, is when you block, you don't see anything.
That person doesn't know you're blocked, they know they're blocked because they continue to see you, but you never, no one who is mentioned in the tweets, well, no one except you will see your response to it.
And so you just keep thinking that you're a part of it.
They did add the mute filter.
Right.
And the mute filter is kind of like a bozo filter because you don't appear to be blocked even though you're blocked.
Yeah, but it's funnier if you're then muted, you're bozoed for the whole network, not just for one person.
It's funnier if you're just posting and posting and you'll eventually go, oh man, this thing sucks.
Ah, go away.
No, that is true.
It's better if you're the bozo for the...
So we should have that in the chat room.
No more banning or kicking.
Just someone put them in the bozo filter so they think they're making all these funny comments, but no one sees it but them.
Why does this not exist in our chat room already?
It's called Shun, actually.
Thank you, Mountain Vortex.
Yeah, put that in, man.
That's cool.
I like that.
Well, bozo's funnier than Shun.
Well, that's just what it's called in IRC land, but we'll call it bozo.
Alright, well I guess that's enough.
Okay, where were you?
Oh, okay.
So now back to the, I think we should talk about, oh, actually about the platforms.
I read both platforms.
Okay.
And this idea that the most LGBT, or actually the quote is, most anti-LGBT platform in history.
And you remember I told you about the conversion therapy?
Yeah.
We all know about that.
Yeah, but it's not in the platform.
In fact, the acronym LGBT is not even in the platform.
Now, they do talk about interesting, very tricky language.
Children are best suited by two parents.
They don't necessarily say two of the same parents, which I thought was interesting.
They don't say, you know, opposite-sex parents.
And the conversion therapy has come from a portion about medical care, and of course it could be used for this, no doubt, where the platform says parents should have the right to determine what kind of therapy their children get.
That's it?
That's it.
So that's what everyone's interpreting as conversion therapy, a big promotion?
I was under the impression, not having read this, knowing you would, I was under the impression that it was in there.
You can do conversion therapy on these crazy gays!
It's just not in there.
The acronym is not even in there.
So LGBT whatever is not in there at all?
No.
No, the platform talks about all people universally, which I think is why Trump didn't have any other mention, really, of, you know, racism, etc.
Because their idea is, and I don't know if that's playing yet, but their idea is, we don't care.
And I think Trump kind of tried to say that, but I don't give a shit what acronym you have, you know, I want to protect you.
Yeah, well, that's not going to fly with you.
I know, I know, I know.
But...
There is nothing in here.
Now, you can construe it that way, and maybe it was put in with that language to do that.
And even so, I have to agree.
I don't agree with the practice, but if you want to put your kid in some kind of therapy for whatever reason...
Versus necessarily drugging them up, which is the preferred method, you should have that right.
I'm not quite sure if that's in there as code, but there is nothing, nothing in here.
The only reason why it can be called the most anti-LGB platform in history is because it doesn't specifically say what they're going to do for LGBT. And if you look at the Democrat Party platform, they have a very different approach to Even if you just read the table of contents, you can almost look at this and say, okay, let me see.
Raise incomes and restore economic security for the middle class.
That's not me.
I don't care.
Create good-paying jobs.
I might read that.
Fight for economic fairness.
Yeah, okay.
Bring Americans together and remove barriers to opportunities.
Ending systemic racism, closing the racial wealth gap, reforming our criminal justice system, guaranteeing civil rights, guaranteeing women's rights, guaranteeing lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender rights, guaranteeing rights for people with disabilities.
So what you do is, what are they going to do for me?
Let me go to women's rights, let me go to civil rights.
They break it down specifically by every individual group, which I think might be a mistake.
Just, you know, because that's all you...
I don't know, I just...
It doesn't really matter that much, but I did want to say that...
Okay, well, I'm glad you did that, because I didn't know.
Absolutely.
And, yeah, well, I read these things, you know, I like that.
Now, the WikiLeaks, this has been a lot of fun.
I think we both picked up some stuff.
I think the most egregious ones were paying people, the Democratic National Committee paying people to protest.
Yeah, and if you can't get enough people, send out the interns.
Send the interns.
I don't want to go out there!
Now, the one that I thought was, we already kind of knew some of this, but the fundraiser by the Washington Post for Hillary Clinton, are you kidding me?
The Washington Post hosted a fundraiser?
It's unbelievable.
I said this, if you remember, a number of weeks ago.
I said the Washington Post cannot be trusted, and I only came to that conclusion based on the way they were acting.
I didn't know any of these details, but that's outrageous, but not a surprise.
No, not a surprise.
So, you know, what is great about this is just there's tons of stuff.
And I'm sure if you hacked into the RNC server, you're going to get the same stuff in the other direction.
There's no doubt about it.
But they have, you know, they frame the talking points, the dangerous Donald meme.
Let's see.
The journalist from the New York Times offering to spin coverage for the DNC in exchange for a Hillary quote.
I mean, this is paying for access, quid pro quo.
Which you're not supposed to do.
If you're a journalist, you might want to consider not doing it.
I mean, that's what they criticize the National Enquirer for doing all the time.
And that, to me, sounds like just a version of the same thing.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, of course.
Now, she is not going to be speaking at the convention.
Which is a big deal.
I mean, you might as well just be fired, I guess.
You know, they can't deal with that.
They're trying to do whatever they can for the fallout.
Isn't she going to come out and at least gavel the thing?
I don't.
I don't.
She may.
She may gavel, but she won't apparently speak.
And this, of course, was going to be a very important speech for her.
She is so corrupt, which is the perfect word.
Most of these...
Leaked memos or emails are about how to screw over Bernie.
Yeah, yeah.
And that is now, and so we had the hashtag, Bernie must, what is it?
Denounce, devolve, what is the hashtag?
It started last night.
So what they all want is Bernie to run as an independent.
Which, of course, is the funniest thing because I believe the numbers will show that if anyone, particularly Bernie Sanders, tries to run for as an independent, that that would split the vote and I think Trump would win.
Oh yeah, easily.
So he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, which is just an amazing place to be.
Particularly when it's so obvious how he got screwed.
Yeah, let's call him a Jew.
Let's call him an atheist.
That'll play well in Kentucky.
One of the memos goes, oh, West Virginia and Kentucky, they'll be susceptible if we Jew him out.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
Actually, here, I have a clip about Debbie Wasserman.
I think the buzz in Washington is that this is not the way Democrats wanted to get started.
No.
The party continues to make concessions to the Bernie Sanders camp, hoping to keep the peace.
The Rules Committee, we know, agreed on what sounds like a task force or whatever to try to reduce the number of convention superdelegates.
That's something Sanders has been pushing for.
Sources in the party leadership widely acknowledging, though, how awkward.
Where the situation is right now, thanks to WikiLeaks, the decision not to have Debbie Wasserman Schultz speak is more than just the chair of the party sacrificing herself for the good of the process.
DNC chair was criticized by the Bernie Sanders campaign as showing favoritism toward Hillary Clinton, and though she and other top Democrats denied it, the leaked emails are evidence of the bad blood that was boiling behind the scenes.
So you have that email from May, Debbie Wasserman Schultz appearing to be very upset with public statements by Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver criticizing the Nevada Democratic Party after protests.
She writes, damn liar, particularly scummy, that he barely acknowledges the violent and threatening behavior that occurred.
And then you have that email quoting Weaver as saying, I think we should go to the convention with Wasserman Schultz saying, He's an ass.
So, I mean, it's very tough language and very frank language, the kind of language you hear in politics all the time, that these are Democrats talking about each other, and it just sort of plays into the narrative that the Bernie Sanders people have been pushing for some time, Christy.
Okay.
The thing to note is that the Republicans and the Democrats, even though the Republicans had a bunch of protesters, they were all obviously bought and sold by the DNC, which was going on during the Trump campaign, too.
The Democrats have real protesters.
Yes.
Because the youth of the Democrat Party, which tends to be a little more liberal than the mainstream of the party...
They're progressive, if not communists.
They can be incredibly violent.
This is not a rigged thing.
I mean, the Republicans aren't buying people to go to protest.
This could be a get-out-of-hand kind of a mess in Philadelphia.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
And I think it will be.
And we know that the Summer of Chaos was also targeting the DNC, not just the RNC. But we have the new term from Code Pink.
It was so fun to see.
What's her name?
Medina?
Is that the lady from Code Pink?
Who was the protester during Trump's speech?
The lone protester.
Yeah.
So that's Code Pink, and it's Medina.
You can tell it by the hairdo immediately.
So they are calling it the...
Raising a ruckus is their slogan.
We're going to raise a ruckus, but they're going to raise quite a ruckus at the DNC as well.
They have a list of protests that they're scheduling.
About 15 different venues where they're going to show up and protest.
There's going to be a lot of protest.
And I think, also, man, what happened to the summer of chaos?
What happened to all the death and destruction with the crazy Republicans and the KKK and the white supremacists and the cops and everybody killing each other?
No!
Do you know who actually did a lot of the blocking and calming down of the crowd?
You're not going to believe this.
Vermin Supreme.
You know the guy with the boot on his head?
Yeah, what about him?
So Vermin Supreme.
Now, if you've never seen him, and I vote independent so that we can keep our country from being a two-party system, so you can run as an independent.
Yeah, you can be a kook with a boot on your head.
And he's the guy that says, when I'm president, everyone gets a pony, which I think is a great campaign slogan.
So he was out there, and the minute there were a couple people and started to get angry, he'd start walking in front of them, in between them and the cops with his megaphone, Just saying crazy shit, but funny.
And people started to laugh.
The cops started to laugh.
I can't play a clip because it's too much noise going on.
It's just not audible enough.
But even Black Lives Matter.
People are like, hey, these people are crazy, narcissistic, a-holes.
They're drunk.
They're nuts.
And Vermin Supreme comes in.
I can see one clip of this.
Yeah, right.
And Vermin Supreme comes in.
Hey, this is my base.
This is my voters, the crazy drunk people.
Come on over here.
It was beautiful to see.
And also there just weren't enough people.
And I said before, I believe that the fire ran out when a lot of people started getting killed, cops getting killed.
I think people just said, screw that noise, I'm not going.
And probably a lot of the Bernie people are not voting, not doing anything, staying home, done, they don't care, they switched off.
Pokemon Go!
Yeah.
Hmm.
Which, I'm sure you saw this, but I'll just play it.
This is the State Department.
John Kirby interrupts his reading of a tab.
Working Group renewed its commitment to launching innovative international campaigns and expanding regional and global networks and accelerating global efforts to confront them in the information space.
As the Secretary said earlier today, though, and I think it's an important reminder, you're playing the Pokemon thing right there, aren't you?
Yeah.
It's an important reminder.
So the guy is playing Pokemon.
This is part of the State Department press pool.
And he says, well, I'm just checking out the room, seeing if there's anything here.
Don't be easy.
We recognize it's a challenge, and we're clear-eyed about the work we still have to do.
This is why we convene this important ministerial, and we'll continue to work with our coalition partners to defeat Dash.
Did you get one?
No, the signal's not very good.
I'm sorry about that.
Did you get one?
He says, no, the signal's not strong enough here.
That's your press corps right there, ladies and gentlemen.
You played Pokemon.
Pokemon.
That's pathetic.
So play this.
We should talk a little bit about Tim Kaine.
I got a couple clips I want you to listen to.
Okay.
Let's just start with the Cain Saunders and the DNC WikiLeaks clip.
Latinos, Cain also proving he has what it takes to be the attack dog.
Do you want a trash-talking president or a bridge-building president?
Trump lashing out on Twitter.
The Bernie Sanders supporters are furious with the choice of Tim Kaine, who represents the opposite of what Bernie stands for.
That dig, a reference to some Democrats who argue Cain isn't a true progressive.
Tim also has a backbone of steel.
Just ask the NRA. So, here's how Hillary and I are going to continue that work with a strong, progressive agenda.
But today, another potential hurdle.
A trove of emails hacked from the Democratic National Committee and posted on WikiLeaks last night has created fresh scrutiny about whether the DNC was pushing for Clinton.
Including this one, dated May 5th, in which one party official seems to raise questions about Sanders' faith.
Writing to the DNC communications director, does he believe in a God?
I think I read he is an atheist.
Sanders supporters speaking out tonight.
I'm outraged.
As a Democrat, I am outraged because the DNC is supposed to be a neutral arbiter.
Now, it was just kind of an establishing clip, but the beginning of that clip is interesting because this was a classic mainstream media report where it's the words they use.
She says, Trump just did some tweet.
It was like, well, this is not what Bernie would want.
That's pretty much what he said.
But she prefaces it with Trump lashing out.
Ha ha!
How is this lashing out?
I didn't catch that.
And then she uses the word dig as in...
A slam.
A pounding.
A slam.
A pounding.
It lashes out.
So I got only one...
I think Kane's just a dud.
A lot of people have identified that he's probably had a vasectomy.
He's got that look.
Oh, I hadn't even considered that.
He does have that kind of shiny look, doesn't he?
He's got that look.
I also, and I wouldn't know, this is a good example of what we can do on this show, but you can't do it anyplace else.
He seems gay to me.
And I would like one of our gay producers to do a gaydar thing, because I never sell the guy in person, but he just seems gay to me.
But he did this.
He gave this speech.
This is his opening speech.
And he...
He went, he did a lot of Spanish, but in the middle of this little chat here, he throws in what sounds like Latin.
I think he's either talking in tongues, or he, or I would like somebody in the chat room, this is my opportunity to ask the chat room for something.
Well, hold on, we have some feedback.
Sam Hyde says, I'm a fag, he is a fag.
Okay, so that's a good start.
We have...
We have confirmation.
Regardless of their race or economic status, regardless of their religion or their gender, regardless of their sexual orientation or where they're from, we've got this beautiful country that should be a country of welcome, that should be a country of inclusion, And I know that that is a fundamental value that Hillary Clinton shares.
You know, soy católico.
Soy católico.
I'm a Catholic.
And Hillary is a Methodist, but I tell you, her creed is the same as mine.
Do all the good you can.
I didn't really hear the...
It was hard to hear for me.
I have the ISO. Oh, okay.
Is this it?
There we go.
Soy católico.
Soy católico.
I'm a Catholic.
Soy católico.
I'm a Catholic.
Is that Latin?
I don't know.
It sounds like Latin.
Soy cattolico.
No, the soy would be Spanish.
It doesn't sound Spanish because when he speaks Spanish, he speaks very fluently.
Soy cattolico.
Soy cattolico.
I am Catholic.
Soy cattolico.
Soy cattolico.
I'm a Catholic.
Soy cattolico.
Oh, okay.
That's what he's saying.
You're right.
I'm a Catholic.
I'm a Catholic.
Okay, fine.
Hey, you know what?
I think the slogan for this campaign, you know, I like alliteration.
I like that a lot, even if it's not actually the same letters, but so the Clinton and Cain, I like that.
How about this?
Yeah, I do too.
How about this?
Cankles and Cain.
Cain and unable.
Oh, now you're talking.
That's writing.
Thank you.
Hours of work.
Cain and unable.
Cain and unable.
That could catch on.
It's really unfriendly that I would never say it out of this one show, but Cankles and Cain just tickles me.
I don't know why.
It's funny.
It's not as deep as Cain and unable.
That is dynamite.
This just in, the knifing or machete or knifing near Stuttgart, a German citizen stopped this guy who was a Syrian refugee, apparently, who did this, by running over him in his BMW. So, there you go.
Deutschland.
Good work.
Yeah, I think that's great.
Who needs guns?
You can knife people and we'll take care of you.
We'll protect you with our BMWs.
Fantastic.
We can make a little transition here, which has already helped.
We were helped very much by the mainstream.
We would like to go from, you know, talk a little bit about terrorism and what's been going on.
Here is Richard Engel, the documented liar filled with kudos and awards from the journalistic industry.
But we have uncovered his reporting as really, really false.
And listen to what he does.
This is about the Munich attack.
Do you draw a straight line?
I mean, do you draw a straight line from basically the Syrian refugee crisis to Brexit to what we're seeing in Germany, France?
I think you can draw a straight line.
A lot of the Brexit anger was actually about internal European migration.
The people in the UK were famously angry at the polls because they were taking so many of the blue-collar jobs.
So there was that anger that things had already changed, that British society had already changed because of immigration.
And then there was the fear, somewhat unrealistic, but there was this fear that now all the Syrians and all the Middle Easterners are coming.
We've had the polls first, and now we have to—what more is on its way?
It's fundamentally un-British.
We're losing our identity, and these people went for that option.
But I do think it's having a major impact, and there's talk of other countries following suit, and fences are going up.
Okay, so it's because of Brexit and because of the hate of the polls.
Well, that's very simplistic, what you're saying there, sir.
But MSNBC, the same organization, they took it to where it needs to go.
You know, I think, Brian, one of the things that people need to keep in mind about this is we listen again and again and we talk again and again.
This guy sounds like Henry McCracken, doesn't he?
You know, I think that sometimes...
You hear that?
Keep in mind about this as we listen again and again and we talk again and again about terrorism, about mass killings, about all these horrible things that are happening, is how few people actually are involved in carrying them out.
Because what we're looking at now in Europe, and to some extent at the Republican Convention and in the discourse in the United States, is a lot of talk about war.
As if we're talking about a massive operation, huge fifth columns, enormous numbers of people.
Even when we're talking about countries that have had a number of people go to Syria and train with ISIS and perhaps come back, we're talking about a few hundred here and there.
Yet we're often talking as if we're going to go to war with a billion Muslims.
And I think we need to be very, very careful about that.
You are very careful.
NBC is very careful about that.
But the broader discourse is really kind of hysterical because the reaction that we all feel is that we want a simple solution.
We want to be safe again.
And we don't want this to happen anymore.
And so, of course, it is all about Brexit, which equals Republicans, equals Trump.
And you just don't want all this bullshit in your country.
Don't vote for Trump, whatever you do.
I find the biggest irony to this whole thing in terms of the Trump Trump popularity is that he all he's doing is playing on the memes and the imagery and the fear mongering and the fear porn of the media who sides with Hillary.
yes Thank you.
And there's just a, you know, oh, things aren't that bad.
Well, you're the one that just told us it was.
Yeah.
Oh, the whole country's racist and all these things are going on.
Oh, where'd that come from?
Okay.
I mean, they've created a, this is reminding me, this whole election cycle is reminding me of the movie Forbidden Planet.
What was that again?
The guy was there with his pretty daughter, Ivanka, the same looking woman.
And so this scientist is stuck on this planet and he says, you guys can go away, we can live fine without your help.
And he had discovered there was some sort of a civilization there before that had magnified its brain ability to such an extent that they could literally create a monster.
Just by thinking about it.
And so everybody amplified their brains with this huge machine that was buried in the ground.
And everyone dreamed up these monsters and they killed each other.
There wasn't anybody left.
This is what the media's been doing.
Sounds like a feel-good movie.
And so the guy, this one last guy, went down and said, what the hell is this thing?
Puts it on his head.
Now he has the power.
Now there's a monster roaming around, and when the interlopers come in and one of them falls in love with the daughter, the monster shows up.
And the monster's trying to kill them all, and eventually they had to sacrifice themselves to kill the monster, because it was really his brain creating this.
Again, this is what the media's done.
The media itself has created a monster called Donald Trump.
Yep.
Yep.
They got nobody to blame but themselves.
In fact, let's listen to a little more of this hate by this Andrea Mitchell little quote.
Andrea Mitchell, the elite extraordinaire.
MSNBC. MSNBC. This was NBC. And she is, of course, married to Alan Greenspan.
Former elitist chair of the Federal Reserve.
...dog and also validator of Hillary Clinton, that he spoke so much about her, that she spoke so much about him, and it was so different than the rollout of the Mike Pence vice presidential ticket just a week ago, with Donald Trump walking off stage and not talking about Mike Pence, but talking about himself.
They think that this was really a home run.
This is a lie.
It was just a lie, because when he actually was with Pence, which was recently, he's standing on the stage the whole time.
He doesn't have a problem talking about himself and walking off the stage.
What they're talking about is when he was at the convention, Pence was giving a speech.
What is Trump supposed to be up there?
He knows how dumb it looks.
See Chris Christie.
He knows not to do that, of course.
Yeah, but that's not the way Andrea Mitchell sees it.
I'm going to mention one thing here that you're talking about risks on Twitter and Facebook because of their attitude.
I think there's a huge risk Whether Trump holds a grudge or not, but if I was Comcast, and I had this bull crap that MSNBC and NBC keeps rolling out, just pounding, tub-thumping for Hillary, and not even trying to be objective, like just shown with this Andrea Mitchell clip.
They're not even trying.
If you listen to NBC, the nightly news, it is just one-sided.
I don't see how a corporation that is under pretty much federal rules, like Comcast...
Are they, though?
Are they under federal broadcast rules?
Some.
FTC rules?
Some.
Some.
Yes.
Cable kind of doesn't have its rules that way, I don't think.
Well, there are FTC issues.
There's monopoly issues.
There's all sorts of things that if you wanted to harass the company, make their lives miserable, I think it's very doable.
And I don't know why they're inviting it.
They are inviting it.
And I would mention anybody who's a shareholder in Comcast to maybe bring this up as a topic of conversation at a shareholders meeting.
I just think it's a bad idea.
And what's the difference?
Why don't you just be objective?
You know what?
Again, these people believe they're objective.
They truly believe it.
Just like people who...
Everyone receives and processes information based upon their own...
Programming and filters and how they were raised and really what you've been indoctrinated with.
It's a virus of the mind, but I can't invalidate how someone else feels about something they see.
Who am I? So I understand.
I'm more interested in what is it exactly that makes you feel that way.
And I think it's very superficial things.
It's imagery.
You know, like the Mussolini strut.
The chin strut.
It's the perception of shouting.
There's a lot of different things that really...
And once that's triggered, I don't think you can even change it.
I think you go...
And so I don't think these people are stupid.
I don't think...
On both sides.
It's just how it is.
But today we can share that quicker so it's easier to see it.
But I don't think the media is necessarily lying.
They're in the milieu of complete...
You walk down the hallway.
Hey, there's Rachel Maddow.
Boy, Trump's a dick.
What are you going to say?
That's your programming.
That's how it goes.
That's how it works.
Yeah, okay.
I'm sorry.
Which is why people always talk about feeling so healthy when they listen to our show, because they get different viewpoints.
Well, they get analysis.
Analysis, yes.
That makes sense.
But I still think Comcast is making a mistake.
Yeah.
So let's talk a little bit about the Munich thing, because I just have one little thing I want to do.
I want to play a clip from one of the mainstream media things that has a little kicker on it.
Then I want to read this story about a terror attack in San Francisco.
Okay.
And what is this clip?
The clip would be ABC Munich.
Americans should shelter in place.
In the meantime, to the other breaking headline at this hour, the terrifying moments overseas.
There had been an urgent manhunt for the gunman, and now word coming in at this hour of the suspect found dead.
Authorities say he killed himself, an 18-year-old Iranian.
It comes amid that warning for Americans in Munich to shelter in place and to contact loved ones.
Several dead, and the number growing all afternoon in these shootings.
Okay.
Now, I think it's about time we called out the media for this.
Our government.
And then you're talking about Trump and his gloom and doom and whatever it is.
Dark.
When you have reports like this, so I'm in Munich, which has got millions of people, and some part of town, some maniac pulls out a Glock 17.
I had to find out what the gun was because I heard 16 shots.
It's interesting you say that.
I was like...
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Wow, that was 16 shots?
That must be an extended mag?
Or there's multiple shooters?
Lock 17 holds 17 shots.
Yeah.
And he was on the roof and took a shot.
I think that was bullet number one.
Then he went through the clip.
Yeah.
It's a magazine, John.
Yeah, magazine.
Please.
Please.
Anyway, so let's all shelter in place and sit around like scared little animals.
Yeah, in Munich.
Shelter in place.
And call your relatives.
And please don't post anything on social media.
You're only helping the perpetrators.
Plural.
Alright, so here we go.
Here's the headline.
This is from a hundred years ago.
One hundred years ago.
And this is what publication?
This is in the San Francisco Chronicle.
And they revisited the story.
The deadliest terror attack in San Francisco happened 100 years ago today.
As members of the Grand Army of the Republic assembled at the Ferry Building, awaiting the start of the San Francisco Lavish Preparedness Day Parade, getting ready for World War I. Mm-hmm.
One elderly veteran fainted.
I'm sorry.
We used to have parades before going to war?
Yeah.
Damn, man, we need to bring that back!
Just as an elderly veteran fainted, just as an ambulance reached the fallen man, an explosion shook Market Street.
When the dust settled, a bloody scene painted the street.
The sidewalks ran red, and all around, bodies of men and women almost stripped of their clothes.
By the way, when you have these...
These explosions, which was just another bomb, it rips people's clothes off.
It's something we haven't seen.
Yeah, it's compression.
Yeah, it's a shockwave.
They lay in the horrible, grotesque heaps, wrote the Chronicle.
It remains the only terrorist attack in San Francisco history.
The day began as a great celebration, but was not without controversy.
The parade was the biggest in city history.
It had over 51,000 marchers.
This meant to celebrate the city's preparedness for World War I. The city was already at war with itself, however.
Labor unions were locked in an all-out fight with business owners.
Anarchists and anti-war demonstrators joined the voices against World War I and the Nationalistic Preparedness Day Parade.
Days before the parade, hundreds of business and individuals received a strange postcard in the mail.
It was written in pencil with many of the words underlined boldly.
And it goes on in the letters saying you guys are going to be...
We're going to bomb the place.
Right.
Despite the shocking blast...
Now this is the thing that...
Compare this to...
Cover and hold yourself at the corner like a little rabbit.
Right.
Despite the shocking blast, the parade went on as scheduled.
Oh, man.
Bodies were still on the street when the parade continued on over the broken, bloody ground.
Wow.
Among the rubble, police found the bomb and stewarded in market a suitcase packed.
This is another interesting thing.
A suitcase packed with bullets and shrapnel and set off a timed explosion.
Set off by a timed explosion.
Without a scrap of evidence, they knew who was to blame, and then they framed some poor bastard for the thingy.
And it turned out that when investigations were done by the precursor to the FBI, it turned out that the guy was framed, and he had to be pardoned like 25 years later.
And it's just a crazy story.
How many people died in this?
Ten.
With 40 injured.
Right.
I think it was interesting.
It was packed with bullets.
Something we haven't heard.
No, I like that everyone said, screw it.
Parade onward with the parade.
No snowcower in place.
Just go.
Dead guys.
Yeah, that's...
A pair marching over the dead guys after the explosion, taking the whole thing.
Well, there you go.
The anarchists were doing this stuff all the time.
They never did find it.
The real bomber, by the way.
And they just march over.
We got to get this parade going to hell with it.
Okay, get those bodies out of here.
Right.
Well, Part of that, of course, is because we've been promised eternal life almost.
And I was watching some George Carlin for inspiration and euphemisms and how we've softened everything.
We went from shell-shocked in the First World War to battle fatigue.
Right, I remember this bit.
To eventually what we have today, which is post-traumatic stress disorder, which removes the human element and actually the violence from it.
It just removes everything.
So we've become desensitized and think that we also just can live forever.
It's part of the promise.
You know, we can send your kids to school, retire with dignity.
That's the American dream according to President Obama.
Who did say something funny after the coup in Turkey.
And obviously we can't discount how scary and shaken Not just the Turkish government is, but Turkish society is.
Imagine if you had some rump group of military officials here in the United States who started flying off with F-16s or other artillery and were taking shots at government buildings and people were killed and injured.
People would be scared, and rightfully so.
I don't know.
We might be on the side of the military.
I'm not so sure about that.
That's an odd thing to say.
That was very strange.
He was also interviewed by John Dickerson, who I've kind of admired as a CBS guy working for the Central Intelligence Agency Broadcasting System.
Because Dickerson, I think he goes a little bit off-script.
Oh.
Or he's got some other agenda other than the normal agenda of CBS? Because he actually, there's a good clip of him, he's talking, this is actually taking place on Today on Face the Nation, but this is an excerpt from it, and he actually follows up Oh no!
When somebody says something stupid, and in this case he's talking to Obama, who I really doubt will talk to him again in the future.
Mr.
President, when Donald Trump spoke to his convention, he talked about the security threats.
He painted a very dark picture.
Now there's been a terrorist attack in Germany.
You still have respect for him when he just did the whole dark thing?
There's been a terrorist attack in Germany.
Doesn't that suggest he's right about the darkness?
No, it doesn't.
Terrorism is a real threat, and nobody knows that better than me.
One of the best ways of preventing it is making sure that we don't divide our own country.
That we don't succumb to fear.
One of the best ways to prevent terrorism is to make sure we don't divide our own country.
What?
Yeah.
What has that got to do with anything?
Well, you know, because I guess he considers terrorism only if it's lone wolf domestic white guys.
I don't know what he's thinking.
One of the best ways of preventing it is making sure that we don't divide our own country, that we don't succumb to fear, that we don't sacrifice our values, and that we send a very strong signal to The world and to every American citizen that we're in this together.
Explain how we would sacrifice our values specifically by being divided.
Well, look, if we start engaging in the kinds of proposals that we've heard from Mr.
Trump or some of the surrogates like Mr.
Gingrich, Where we start suggesting that we would apply religious tests to who could come in here, that we are screening Muslim Americans differently than we would others, then we are betraying that very thing that makes America exceptional.
I have two words for you, predator drones.
There you go.
Yeah, of course, Jimmy Carter did that when the Iranians took hostages.
They prevented Muslims from coming in exactly the same way.
Of course.
That's okay.
Just don't bother with history.
Don't.
He's just ad-libbing.
I think the guy's on his...
Talk out of school.
He is coasting.
He's coasting his way out.
He's giving up.
Just a couple things on Munich.
Now, I read German, and we have people in Germany getting a lot of good information.
There's a lot of conflicting reports.
The one thing that's interesting is not a peep anywhere about guns here in the United States, about a guy shooting.
Not a peep.
Not a peep about guns.
You can buy guns.
Hold on.
There was one peep.
Do you have a peep clip?
No, I don't.
But it's a peep that in Germany, where they have these very strict rules, you know, that are just onerous.
They said they should make them stricter.
Wow.
It's not easy to get.
You can get weapons in Germany.
But of course, the Glock that he had, had the serial number filed down, according to reports.
And what difference does it make at this point?
So some reports say it was his teenager who was being pestered and bullied by Turks.
Some say he was inspired by the far-right terrorist Andrus Breivik, who, of course, five years ago to the date, went off and killed all those children, who would be the next generation of socialists.
And by the way, the next generation of socialists is obviously hanging out at McDonald's at the mall.
So it must be Breivik.
And the media is all about, you know, Breivik had a manifesto!
No, he had a compendium, which is something very different, and I read the whole thing.
And we even discussed it.
We talked about his compendium, which is a collection.
No, it's not a manifesto at all.
The only thing I felt odd is, or that was odd, if this guy was a Muslim, which I guess now he is, but we're still not really sure...
The one thing I found of note is that he's left-handed.
And depending on what kind of Muslim you are and where you were raised and your parents, you may not be encouraged to use your left hand for a lot of things, because we've discussed this.
There's issues with left and right hands, particularly in Muslim nations.
So this guy was a lefty, the shooter.
At least he was shooting with left.
I'll also say he was a bad shot.
Man, the people at McDonald's, he just missed half of them.
If not all of them.
But he was a lefty, and I just point to throwing that out there.
Well, that's one of those little obscure tidbits where you get on the No Agenda show and nowhere else.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
And I'm going to ruin it by saying what you just heard is two professionals who know how to cue each other.
You do this all the time.
I can't help it.
Instead of relaxing on your laurels, you nail it and then you have to stand there with your Mussolini look.
How good was that?
I just want to point out to people how it works, and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You should be sorry, because they can understand how it works when they have it happen.
They go, it's too subtle.
It's too subtle.
Gee, it's not too subtle.
Okay, well, let's thank a few people for helping us.
Starting with Jared Meisner, I guess it's Meisner Misner, in Bellevue, Washington.
Seeing that there's a lack of producers, he gave us a small donation, he says.
And hopefully the donations will pick up some steam soon.
Yeah, we were hoping for that too.
Joe Ulmer, and this is a good name for a town.
Dingman's Ferry.
A hundred bucks.
You can take a look at his notes, see if he's got anything in there.
It's a lot of writing.
He's turned on to the show by my best friend and started listing around show 800.
I have yet to donate but feel compelled to do so now.
He actually says finances are tight as I'm in the field of social work.
He's a social worker helping us out.
But honestly, he says there's no price that can be put on sanity.
Thank you very much, Joe.
Another sanity, successful saving sanity guy.
John Ananda in Santa Rosa, California.
$100 now.
Okay, I have to stop.
This is the healthy surprise guy.
Wow!
Is that...
Well, I don't remember this being his name.
That's not his name.
No, but he's got the Healthy Surprise logo.
I got a box with some stuff in it.
And he's got the Healthy Surprise logo.
It's written on the Healthy Surprise logo.
I thought it was Joe.
You know, I think his name was Joe, actually.
Well, maybe Joe.
J-O-H-G. No, Joe Winky.
Joseph Winky.
But I think he sold it.
Okay, well, he sold it to this guy then.
Yeah.
Now the guy is making edibles.
That's what Joe is doing.
Well, there's probably...
I don't know what's going on.
I do have a note on Healthy Surprise Letterhead.
Did you get edibles from him?
I got some stuff from him.
Oh, man.
All right.
Thank you for your persevering so long with...
Okay, let me try to read this.
It's written in a printed handwriting that's not the best.
Probably for good reason.
That's a joke that he'll get.
Thank you for persevering so long with no agenda.
I've come to take almost for granted the show with this last spate of...
Horrible news and violence.
I don't want to go near Reddit.com, let alone MSM, and be bombarded with death news porn.
No agenda is a way to stay up to date, which is true, and sane.
Thank you.
I listened to a recent show, and you discussed CBD and THD, and he talks about what we discussed on the show about the benefits of medical marijuana.
Right.
He says, and he goes on with some more interesting stuff, which I'll send you a copy.
Now, he wants us to call out some people.
Okay.
Okay, just one guy.
He wants to call Jeff, I guess it's Jeff Marcy as a douchebag.
Anyway, I think he's part of the scene that's going on.
There's a lot of stuff happening.
I'm going to go up to Washington in the next couple days or next week, I guess.
And I'm going to go start visiting some of these places that sell all this stuff.
Good.
Because when they first opened, I will say this little story.
Seattle had a...
Washington took longer to put their law into effect than Colorado did.
And when they did...
There was a bunch of these shops.
There's one in Seattle, I remember.
I took pictures of it with a line a mile long.
And all the little shops in Port Angeles, which were only open for like a couple hours a day, were all got the huge lines that go forever.
And I think it was just panic.
They were just like, oh God, this is not going to last.
Now that everyone's relaxed into it and nobody's really propagandizing the way they were.
I mean, they're still doing it, but it's not as bad.
Mimi says the shops are, you know, you just walk in, there's a few old ladies in there and everyone's looking around and she says everything's overpriced, but it's like there's no line.
You just go in.
Right.
So things are changing.
This is a major deal.
I agree.
I totally agree.
Okay, onward.
Just one thing, he mentioned about the, he said porn.
I just needed to bring it up so you can pay attention to it.
The Republican platform says, online pornography is a public health crisis.
And this is being universally laughed at, not scorned, not disproved, laughed at by the media.
Laughed at.
And I tend to agree.
Oh, I totally agree.
This is a public health crisis.
That's for another show.
I just wanted to throw that in so people can pick up clips of this meme going on.
Because Democrats are all for...
Really, it's...
And I'm just telling you from women I know, who at later stage in life have divorced, separated, and they date...
Younger people, more millennials, and to the T, every single one says, when did sex get so rough?
It's a little rougher than it used to be.
It's a little more aggressive.
The change is real, and it's not necessarily good.
Okay.
I wouldn't argue with you.
Different topic.
Not that porn is amusing.
No, I'm not saying that at all.
But yeah, I agree.
If we didn't have it, it wouldn't be missed, as far as I'm concerned.
It shouldn't be so easily obtained.
John, let's do it a different time.
You want to be done under three hours.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Now you called me out.
Machinsky's M-A-T-C-H-I-N-S-K-Y home construction in Evanston, Wyoming.
So if you're going to move to Wyoming, get a hold of these guys.
They build houses.
99.99.
I think that's what he wanted to do.
Jared Meisner in Seattle, Washington.
84.40.
And he had a long note, too.
You can read it.
James Zuckel in Beverly Hills, California.
Boobs.
80.08.
Andrew Holmes in Auckland, Australia.
80 or New Zealand.
It's his first donation.
80-08.
So he saw the boobs, too.
And that was, of course, one of the clips.
One of the photos that was in the newsletter.
Holy crap, look at all the boobs we got.
Daniel Baxter in Cape Coral, Florida.
Eon Larson, more boobs.
Riverhead in New Zealand.
Well, the New Zealanders are into this.
Alan Bowes in Langley, British Columbia, 808, boobs.
He says, a pair for a pair.
Keep up the wonderful analysis.
Ralph Massaro, boobs in Kirkland, Washington.
Sir Joel, the battle-born knight in Sparks, Nevada.
Also boobs.
Jeffrey Schwab in Olympia, Washington.
More boobs.
Christopher Gray, Grand Blanc, Michigan.
Christopher Gray, yeah.
More boobs.
Zachary Gilbreck in Cordova, Indiana.
80-08.
I'm telling you, I was stunned by this.
I didn't expect it.
Did we have an Easter egg?
Did you have a boobs Easter egg?
Yeah.
What was it?
I had a picture of Hillary looking at boobs.
Oh, right.
Boobs.
Boobs.
She was staring at him, too.
Zachary Gilbrecht in Cordova, Tennessee.
Miles Comer in Walnut, California.
Also boobs.
And usually there's two or three people pick up on the Easter egg.
Christopher Baylor in Grafton, Wisconsin.
Boobs.
Daniel Smith in Dayton, Ohio.
Boobs.
I think we get more pictures of Hillary.
That came out well.
Onward to...
Oh, Brian Blessing is the last boob in...
Herblast Boobs in Surrey Hills, New South Australia, New South Wales.
And I don't mean, and he's anything but a boob.
Let me just say that.
Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City came with 75 bucks.
Mm-hmm.
Pauli Rikama in Helsinki, Finland, 66.66.
Black Knights are inside jobs out of Seattle, 66.66.
It's the first time we have two of those in a row.
Jacqueline Clay in Malden, Essex, Great Britain, UK, 69.63.
We're going to put some karma for your exams at the end.
Yeah, karma karma.
That's what she wanted.
Kyle Clanny in Fort Collins, Colorado, 60.
Brian McFadden in Hampton, Virginia, 55, 10.
Double nickels on the dime.
Also Christopher Weitz in Atlanta, Georgia, same thing.
Sir Eric VM in Van Nuys, California, 54, 55.
Escalating Donation Excitement.
Rick Labanca in Hope, Rhode Island, 54-42.
Caleb Fru in Crete, Nebraska, 54-32. 54-42, 32, whatever.
So now we have $50 donors in the state.
I'm going to name them off one at a time.
City and name.
Brandon Mink in Tempe, Arizona, $50.
Jason Daniels, parts unknown.
Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia.
Michael Reardon in San Diego, California.
Sam Godwin in San Jose, California.
Christine Williams in Dallas, Texas.
Derek Neese in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Trent Wabas in Elwood, Victoria, Australia.
Jonathan...
Petrucini in Brook Park, Ohio.
Brandon Hedger in Mansfield, Texas.
Richard Garrett in LaGrange.
LaGrange.
Capital L, small G. Kentucky.
Eric Sinkmeyer, I think.
I'm guessing.
And Fort Gratiot.
Fort Gratiot.
There's some pronunciation.
I don't have it.
It's a short swim from Canada.
I know that.
Michigan.
Gary Wiley in Squim, Washington.
Joe Schwartzbauer in Florissant, Missouri.
A good number of people.
Sir, is it Patrick May comes to you, sir?
I think so.
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
Yeah, Sir Patrick in New York City.
And last but not least, Sir David Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois.
Plus, Joshua Defabo in San Francisco.
Hello.
Hello, and thank you all so much.
Also, people who came in with under $50, often for reasons of anonymity or on our subscriptions.
And I need a special relationship karma going out to one of our knights who requested that.
Just putting that in there.
And, man, we had to tell you where we were at, but thank you very much.
I feel much better about the work that we're putting into it.
And we will have, of course, another show on Thursday.
Who knows what will be happening by then, but we will be on the case, your guardians of reality.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Karma for everybody who needs it and deserves it.
You've got karma.com.
And before we move on, John, you're more local on the ground, although still quite a bit north.
The fire, the sand fire in Los Angeles?
Yeah, you mean 400 miles south of me?
Yeah, that one?
Yeah.
Do we need to do some rain stick for these people?
Oh, just a thought.
Yeah?
I mean, it's 100 degrees plus every day here in Austin.
I don't mind.
Yeah, and most of this country is overheated, so let's do it.
All right.
All right, let's do it.
Outstanding.
On John Hill in July 7.
I'm sorry, I was right on target.
In the middle of July, I don't know if it's going to do much good.
There's an example where I hit the jingle and you start talking over.
That's where we messed it up.
Oh, yeah, I noticed.
Yeah.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I'm so hurt, yeah.
And we start with a related birthday...
Alex Bortok congratulates his 10-year-old daughter, Paulina, celebrated.
Sorry we missed that one.
Brian McFadden celebrating today.
Aaron Heath turns 29 on Tuesday.
And Kyle Clanny says happy birthday to his father, Norman, turning 60th on July 26th.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
Two nightings for today.
Let me see.
Yes.
One, two, one, two.
There's my blade.
I need your blade, sir.
Here it comes.
Nice.
Gotcha.
Ah, Christopher Pitord and Kyle Clanny, please step forward to the podium.
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And, of course, that is because you have supported us in the work in the amount of $1,000 or more.
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The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
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It's time for the Tech Horny to move out of the way as we bring you the true tech news.
John, I think you have something.
I do.
In fact, I thought, hey, you got a brand name.
Your name's Ed Snowden.
Everybody knows who you are worldwide.
Do a product.
And NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has helped design a mobile phone case he says will alert a user when their phone is potentially being surveilled.
Speaking via video link to an event at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Snowden and his co-designer Andrew Bunny Huang showed how the external device could automatically shut a phone down if electronic eavesdropping is detected.
Snowden also said, while most people assume it's impossible for phones to be listened to while in airplane mode, governments possess the technology to eavesdrop even when people think they're safe.
You know, when Obama was in town, we've talked about this on the show, my son was in the vicinity of the hotel he was staying at.
Ah, Viper.
Well, actually, it was something beyond Viper.
Was it Viper?
It's not Viper.
No, it's not Viper.
It's a mosquito or something.
Stingray.
Stingray.
Killer orca.
Killer whale.
Stingray.
We got it.
And he says that all the phones were surveilled and they were drained.
There was no battery life left.
Right, right.
Here's my question.
How can you, that MIT, work with a felon, or a suspected felon, or an alleged felon, but someone who was on the...
I mean, you're not allowed to even send PayPal and put the word Allah Akbar in the description.
How can you be involved in selling phone cases with a guy who is arguably one of the most wanted guys to return to the United States for prosecution?
Is that legal?
Can you do it?
Is it ethical?
I think, well, as far as I'm concerned, it's fine.
But whether it's legal, probably, there's probably some thing.
He's been on a lot of video links with a lot of different people over the years, so I don't see that anyone's being prosecuted.
And ethical?
Well, they want to sell a product.
I don't know.
How is it unethical?
And what if you agree with the guy?
You know, he's a patriot, not a traitor.
Wait a minute.
Well, we have lots of people in government saying he's a traitor.
Yeah.
And people who want him prosecuted.
Yes.
Should they then not say, hey, MIT, not while he's not been prosecuted or not?
Or they just let it go because it's cool and it's a limited hangout and whatever, we talk about it, but it's just bullshit.
Well, I think everything you said is part of the...
Plausible.
Plausible.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
The Washington Post actually did this whole article about Bran Snowden, which we have talked about since the minute we...
It was a coincidence they did that article and then this thing comes out.
No, this article was about this thing coming out.
Oh, I didn't know that because I never read the article.
Edward Snowden, comma, the brand.
I don't trust the Washington Post.
I've said it before.
No, it's hard to.
But, you know, this, like, wow, who gives a crap?
It's like it's a phone case that, you know, when it detects RF, it'll light up.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't know.
It has to detect a certain kind of RF. I guess it has to be within our frequency range.
That's fair.
Because RF is we're being bombarded by RF. Yeah, I agree.
Yes, true.
It would have to be very, very close proximity, low power, and maybe they can filter in some frequency ranges.
Yeah, you could do a bandpass filter and just pick out specific signals.
That shouldn't be a problem.
My God, why do I even know this crap?
Because I studied.
That's why.
Because you're a ham.
I'm a ham.
That's right.
You're going to save the world.
One day.
You're going to save the world, my friend.
My phone, my phone.
My phone.
Hey, the only thing I have...
Whoa, thank you.
That was it for Tech News for today.
There's nothing else you need to know.
I have two quick packages.
I wouldn't mind getting one out of the way.
I'll let you choose.
Black Lives Matter or Americans Killing Syrians.
Oh, Americans Killing Syrians.
Americans Killing Syrians.
I'm glad you chose that because this is a report packaged up, and I've put little pieces together here, of the RT hottie.
Her name is Chaya, I believe.
Chaya.
Yeah.
Chaya.
And she is the nemesis, the arch-nemesis of John Kirby, who cannot handle this woman.
And it shows.
And it's very unprofessional what he's doing, and I think it makes him and the State Department look bad, and it makes you look suspicious and like a douche.
We now have the report, which this started back in, I think, January, that the U.S. targeted certain targets in Syria, and they had to make a calculus about the possibility of civilians also being killed.
And it turns out that this strike they did killed about 50 civilians.
And so Shia brought this up with Kirby.
The U.S. strike that reportedly killed around 20 civilians in the ISIL-held city of Monbij in Syria.
Was it a mistake?
On Monday.
That's another great accusatory question you've asked here.
No other military works as hard as ours.
None.
No other military in the world to prevent civilian casualties.
And when they happen, again, I'll say it again because apparently it didn't sink in the first time.
When it happens, we investigate it fully and completely.
And then we're transparent about it.
And then we take the lessons learned and we try to prevent it from happening again.
Oh, okay.
By the way, this guy must...
I don't know who this guy's wife is.
And again, this is a typical...
Navy type guy who would say something like, well, I guess it didn't sink in the first time.
This guy has got to be the worst husband in the world.
I want the women out there to listen to this guy.
You know men like this?
Oh, I guess it didn't sink in the first time, you idiot.
He totally mansplained her.
Yeah, totally.
He mansplained her.
It was rude.
The guy is a horrible douchebag.
Why is he representing our country?
Here's part two.
Just to be clear, one is one too many.
And we take each and every single instance seriously.
So it's not about the number.
And don't for a minute think that we take any particular number more seriously than any other.
I'm going to go back in time with you for a moment.
Man, I should have had my little harp sound that always makes it so much more authentic.
We're going back in time to January of 2016 to Barbara Starr of CNN reporting on this calculus risk.
One official telling CNN the U.S. was willing to risk up to 50 civilian casualties in this area to get the building, to destroy the building.
That was the report.
And that's significant, not just for the fact of what it is, like, yeah, we did a calculation.
We want this particular piece here.
We may kill 50 civilians.
It turns out, according to Chaya, it was 20.
Yeah, we can do that.
Sounds like a good plan.
And, of course, she is not relenting, but she gets shut down.
The policy is not zero tolerance for civilian casualties.
This is true.
The policy is not.
She is telling the truth.
The policy is we make a calculus how many civilians, which, what do we call them?
Collateral damage.
Or, actually, we categorize them as hostile people, something.
It's all kinds of little names.
She's right.
The policy is, we'll calculate how many of them we'll kill.
She is right.
The policy is not zero tolerance for civilian casualties, is it, at this point?
I've already explained to you our policy and our approach to civilian casualties.
I don't think I need to explain it any further.
Yes, sir.
In Brazil today.
Yes, sir.
Go ahead, please.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Go ahead, please.
Hold on a second.
Douchebag.
What a dick.
The guy's the worst.
Unbelievable.
I don't know why he even got that job.
He was an admiral in the Navy.
This job is so beneath him.
Well, he was the spokeshole for DOD, for the Pentagon, so this is what he was doing.
Except he was doing it for defense, and he got kicked out, you remember.
It's a sucker state to take him, that's for sure.
He's no good.
You're right.
Put the women back in this job.
Ha ha ha.
Hi, anything you want to wind up with, sir?
Yes, I do.
I want to get this out of the way once and for all.
We've talked about this, the way the post office was treated, and the fact that they've been screwed over and everyone thinks they're a bunch of lazy a-holes, and they're going broke when in fact none of this is true, as we've discussed.
Puerto Rico, we've talked about this a little bit, but I want to get this out of the way.
Puerto Rico is a target of the...
The banks?
IMF? The banks?
No, the hitmen, the economic hitmen.
And I think it's a test to see if we can do this to other states, to screw them, to screw the states, or in this case a territory, with an onerous banking system.
Tricks.
Try to start with the Puerto Rico payday loans.
By Sakibati, director of the Refund America Project and a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute.
He's co-author of the new report, Puerto Rico's Payday Loans.
Carlos Guesa and Sakibati, we welcome you both to Democracy Now!
Sakeep, I'd like to start with you and your report.
If you could lay out for us some of the main findings of your study.
Well, Juan, as you mentioned earlier, what we found was that basically a very large portion of Puerto Rico's debt is actually not debt at all.
It's actually interest on a payday loan, on a series of payday loans, in fact, where the island will be paying...
The island borrowed $4.3 billion and will pay back $33.5 billion in interest.
That's an effective interest rate of 785%.
And what we're finding is that this is actually just the tip of the iceberg.
There's actually a lot of the debt that Puerto Rico has entered into that is either legally or morally illegitimate.
And so my organization, the Reefined America Project, we're actually going to be releasing a series of reports over the next couple of months That will look at the different ways in which Wall Street banks really targeted Puerto Rico with predatory deals and really calling on the Permissive Control Board to be put in the interests of the people of Puerto Rico first to cancel the illegitimate debt so that we can properly fund services.
Saqib, name names.
What are the banks and how are they responsible for this debt?
Yeah, so basically, I mean, there were a series of banks, including Citigroup, Merrill Lynch, now under Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, UBS, Banco Santander.
They were the lead underwriters on these deals that really targeted Puerto Rico for these immense interest rates.
So these payday loans are called capital appreciation bonds.
And the way these bonds work is very much like a payday loan, where because you're not allowed to pay back the principal or the interest for many years, and over time the interest keeps compounding, you end up with these astronomical interest rates.
And so what happened over there was because you had the situation where Puerto Rico is a colonial economy and not in charge of its own finances at the end of the day, there's so much pressures coming from the outside because those issues couldn't be resolved in the same way that a cash-strapped family trying to put food on the table might go to a payday lender because they have to to make ends meet.
You had, you know, Puerto Rico trying to put food on the table, you know, provide basic services, needing to find ways to make ends meet, and banks swooped in, banks succeeded to group Goldman Sachs and said, hey, here's a deal, even though they knew that these deals would be really bad and Puerto Rico would never be able to pay them in the long run.
Wow.
I'm going to give you borderline for that one.
We'll take it.
I had no idea.
This is great.
Good stuff.
And part two, if we kind of wrap it up, and you look at this and you realize that this was, I think, a test run for what they're going to try to do.
With all payday loans, all states.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Holy moly.
I think that's the point that they had to know, the underwriters had to know that there was no way that Puerto Rico would be able to pay these loans back.
I want to put it, if we can, on the screen for the television viewers.
And for radio listeners, by the way, you can go to democracynow.org.
Oh, Jesus.
Why throw that in there, you doofus?
That's dumb.
That's dumb.
Anyway, sorry.
I'd like to put on, these are some of the names of the companies that you see there.
Goldman Sachs, AG Edwards, Bear Stearns, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, UBS Investment, Lehman Brothers, Santander Securities, Popular Securities.
But I want to show also the chart of one of the bonds that were issued.
This is the 2007 sales tax bonds.
Where it shows, for instance, that Puerto Rico borrowed several tranches of bonds, but one was for $98 million that was supposed to be paid back in 2054.
That means for 47 years, the banks agreed you don't pay us any principal and you don't pay us any interest.
For 47 years.
And at the end of the 47 years, that $97 million becomes $1 billion that Puerto Rico has to pay back.
That's a thousand times what the original loan was.
So the banks had to know that there was no way that Puerto Rico could pay this back, but yet they continued to issue these bonds.
Fantastic!
Capital appreciation loans has got to be my favorite quote.
It's unbelievable.
Loan sharking has now become capital appreciation loans.
Yeah, and these are the banks that we're going to end up having to deal with more and more with the bankers that are taking all their efforts to push in Hillary.
And if they don't get Hillary and they get Trump, the bank's going to pull the plug on the economy and they're going to try to sink this guy.
These bankers are out of control.
Well, actually, they're in control.
That's the problem.
Yes, true.
Yes, what am I thinking?
These bankers are in control.
They own you.
Well, everybody, I had some fun on this.
And who knows?
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And thanks, John.
Had fun.
Good.
That was good.
Good.
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No.
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