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	Open up, Saturday police.
	Open up, open the door.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, July 17th, 2016, and time for your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 843.
	This is No Agenda.
	Being from the future can really suck sometimes.
	As we continue to broadcast live from the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where being from the past can really suck.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
	Woo!
	Well, I figured it was reflecting on the weather that was ruining the bit.
	We're all good.
	We're all good.
	As we start off today's program, very sad to say that the intelligence we receive from our network about what possibly could happen in Baton Rouge happened.
	There's not a lot of information, so there's not much we can say about it on this particular program, but apparently three cops have been killed in Baton Rouge by a lone shooter.
	And actually, I was going to play this today, but now I think it's a good time to play it.
	You'll recall that we had received hacked documents, text messages, tweets, direct messages, and emails.
	from one of the founders of Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, and that there was going to be a Dallas-style attack on cops in Baton Rouge.
	And I was going to play this clip to accentuate that that had been mentioned and that the police force knew about it.
	Good evening, I'm Erin Burnett.
	Out front tonight, the breaking news, an alleged plot to murder police.
	A manhunt on tonight for a suspect who officials say may be conspiring to kill police.
	Authorities in Baton Rouge, Louisiana are already arresting three people in connection to a possible plot.
	Police say at least eight guns were stolen from a pawn shop over the weekend.
	One of the suspects, at least one of them, telling police they were going to use them to kill law enforcement officers.
	The Baton Rouge Police Department is on high alert tonight.
	We took this as a very viable threat.
	We have been questioned repeatedly over the last several days about our show of force and why we have the tactics that we have.
	Well, this is the reason.
	Because we had credible threats against the lives of law enforcement in this city.
	And as law enforcement officers that are charged with the protection of this community, and in that community is our law enforcement officers.
	There you go.
	That was yesterday.
	Yeah, well, there you have it.
	And this happens today.
	So this is very disturbing.
	And the Black Lives Matter guy has got a book deal in the way.
	I can just see it coming.
	You mean DeRay Meckeson?
	Yeah, you gotta arrest him.
	Make a big scene.
	Just as a little extra bit of information that came out a couple days ago.
	This DeRay McKesson lives in a house which is owned by James and Robin Wood in Baltimore, Maryland.
	But the same address is used for the Baltimore chapter of the Open Society Institute.
	Just wanted to point that out.
	It's the Open Society Institute.
	That's George Soros' deal.
	Oh.
	He's living in a house paid for by Soros, just to put a little perspective into it.
	Somebody's got to pick up the Soros thread since Glenn Beck stopped doing it.
	And I didn't get a lot of sleep.
	I got to tell you, these two things...
	Well, actually, three things happened in succession.
	We had 28 pages come out right around...
	It was...
	Was this...
	Well, you have to play the Nothing to See Here then.
	Don't look over here!
	Nothing to see here!
	It came out right after all this mayhem took place in Nice.
	So there's almost no mention of that.
	Of course, we'll discuss it today.
	Well, actually, there was a couple of mentions, more than a few.
	Oh, really?
	Yes, and I want to play these.
	I think we should go right into that.
	Let's do it.
	You read the document.
	I did.
	I read the document.
	I'm sure you did.
	Well, it's because it was short.
	And were you surprised by anything in said document?
	Yeah, a couple of things.
	Because they named names.
	Bandahar, whatever that guy is, who used to be on TV all the time, who seems to be a bad actor.
	And it was a very, it seemed to me, when I read it, I came away with the following thought.
	Hold on, do we need to just set up what this is for people who don't?
	Oh yes, please set it up.
	Maybe somebody doesn't know because they sure wouldn't find out listening to the news.
	The 9-11 commission report, which was kind of destined to fail with underfunding and delays and delays, and finally in 2003 this thing came out, and we all know pretty much what it said.
	But there were pages omitted, the legendary 28 pages, and these pages, as we learned about them, and now we're what?
	We're now 15 years later.
	We figured out pretty much what was in there was implication that a lot of the hijackers, doing air quotes, had close ties to Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia, the consulate, And, you know, this was omitted and had been shoveled away and classified.
	Classified as top secret.
	Yes, top secret.
	So that we would not mess, and that's what the document actually states, because of the relationship with the United States and Saudi Arabia that was not prudent to let the public see that.
	And as the tale continued, a number of congressmen saw it, and they said it should be released, and they were shaking their fists at Saudi Arabia.
	And Saudi Arabia obviously had somebody see it.
	And they said, if we reveal it, it will be the end of our relationship.
	They're going to pull their bonds out, and they're going to do all this and that and the other thing.
	Yeah.
	Oh my!
	Very close.
	They're going to do all these things, and then the next thing you know, there's enough pressure to get the document released.
	And so, you and I both read it.
	I look at it, I think it was an incredible indictment of Saudi Arabia.
	I completely agree.
	If you read the document, and it's linked in the last newsletter, an actual PDF of the full document.
	And that is in the show notes.
	It's in the show notes today as well.
	There's not that much redacted.
	There's enough that it's annoying.
	True.
	But, with or without the redactions, which took some people's names out, they left other names in.
	I don't know who did this, but it was poorly done.
	Yeah.
	It sounds to me as though Saudi Arabia financed the whole damn thing.
	And I also read, the way I perceived it, CIA was holding back a lot of information from FBI. They were not transparent, or they were not open with information they had.
	In fact, I think CIA lied to FBI, just from the way I read some piece of the document.
	I think you could easily say that.
	Now, with that in mind...
	What you just heard from us, I want you to play the clips, the way the media handled this.
	So let's start.
	Now what you just heard from us, now play, here's how CBS handled it.
	This is the 1128 pages on CBS. Today Congress made public 28 formerly top secret pages from its investigation into 9-11.
	The pages detail suspicions at the time of links between the hijackers and the Saudi government.
	Though 15 hijackers were Saudis, two investigations have found no evidence that the Saudi government supported them.
	That's pretty funny.
	So don't look at all the other ones that were completely tied into Saudi Arabia.
	Just mention the two that weren't.
	And don't look at the 28 pages.
	They say that 28 pages were released and a bunch of people were hot Saudis, but two other investigations said there was nothing to it, so don't look over here.
	Let's do that again.
	Don't look over here.
	Nothing to see here.
	Ooh, look at that!
	Entire Central Intelligence Agency broadcasting system, CBS. That was their fantastic report.
	Good work, boys.
	Now, I figure, well, you know, maybe there's a shot.
	Because, believe me, democracy now didn't do much better, but they'll bring somebody who's an expert on eventually, but it'll be meaningless.
	So PBS, I figure, well, they're going to do a little better job.
	They'll do better.
	You had hope.
	You had hope for PBS, yes.
	Yeah, I'd say, well, that was a cover-up.
	It was a horrible report.
	They should be ashamed of themselves at CBS for doing that, because, again, you read it, I read it.
	It was an indictment of Saudi Arabia, no question about it.
	And anyone who reads it will come back with the same thing, but they don't want you reading it.
	So let's listen to PBS and its fantastic in-depth report.
	In the day's other news, Congress released a long classified section of its report on the 9-11 attacks.
	It details possible links between the hijackers and officials in Saudi Arabia.
	But it also notes that subsequent investigations found no such links.
	White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said today the information does not change the fundamental facts.
	They didn't find any evidence that the Saudi government is an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded al-Qaeda.
	That's the definitive word of the outside experts who took an unvarnished look at this particular situation, and that conclusion is unchanged.
	The Saudi ambassador to the U.S. said today the released information, quote, absolutely exonerates his government.
	I love the kicker.
	That is great.
	Hey, clearly you read the 28 pages.
	As you can tell, we did nothing wrong.
	Now, there's a number of crazy things.
	Wait, wait, just stop.
	I'm going to give you a double shot just because you deserve it for those two.
	No, those are great.
	That's fantastic.
	Now, this particular clip from PBS had a number of interesting things.
	It almost implies that the 28 pages talks about the future reports that will be written.
	It was slipped in there in a very odd way of putting it, she says.
	It just was a very strange report.
	It made it sound as though the 28 pages referred forward to something that would be done in the future.
	And then Ernest comes on and he says, well there's no evidence that there was an institutional evidence.
	He uses the word government institutionalist as though there was some agency set up just to blow up the towers.
	So he kind of weaseled his way out of that one.
	And then, I don't know whose idea it was to put in the kicker, which was telling us that the Saudi government says they're exonerated.
	That is corruption at the highest level.
	And it's got to be one of the people that sponsors the news hour.
	This is the problem with sponsored underwritten crap like this.
	Looking through the redacted parts, trying to guess what the black lines matter.
	Ooh, I just made up a new one.
	That's pretty good.
	I think there's implications of Israel in there, too.
	Well, maybe, but like you said, it wasn't enough redacted.
	It wasn't very powerful, if that's true.
	Maybe in some hints.
	Yeah.
	But I actually doubt that.
	I think this is referring to some...
	They have some crazy stuff in there.
	It was a crazy, crazy thing to read, and it was...
	And to listen to these reports from the media...
	Downplaying it.
	Just lying.
	Blatantly lying about it.
	Hoping that nobody really pays any attention.
	I'll just pick a random page, random paragraph.
	A former assistant special agent in charge in San Diego testified that FBI received numerous, I would say half a dozen reports, quotes, from individuals who believe that al-Buyutumi was a Saudi intelligence officer.
	The FBI's November 18th response said, Is inconsistent as to whether FBI currently is designating him as a suspected Saudi intelligence officer.
	In its response, FBI notes that he blacklined until after September 11th, but the response also states there was no evidence to conclude that he was a Saudi intelligence officer.
	So, I mean, yeah, I can write reports like this.
	It's the reverse of what the New York Times does.
	You know, this can happen.
	This can happen at the end of the report.
	We'll see what happens.
	I mean, this is exactly the same thing.
	Hey, looks like he was an intelligence officer, but we don't really have the evidence.
	Come on.
	They did have the evidence on a lot of people.
	Absolutely.
	But even that's the softest one.
	That's the softest one.
	Yeah, that's the softest accusation.
	People should read this thing and tell me what you just heard from the media, especially CBS, is accurate.
	And you'll determine it's not.
	And I guess they managed to brush it.
	Maybe the whole thing was a...
	I don't know who pressured who to just not say much about it.
	But it's there if you want to read it.
	I guess nobody in the media wants to read it.
	So, okay.
	That's just the way it is.
	It was very frustrating.
	As the 28 pages come out, And Nice happened.
	And at a certain point, the only news that had any kind of information was Sky News, which you can get on YouTube on one of their live channels.
	Of course, I have BBC World, which is total crap.
	BBC, we can't report anything because we don't know if it's true yet.
	Okay, so they had nothing.
	How does that stop anyone?
	as CNN, MSNBC, Fox, they were all set up at the convention in Ohio.
	So they had no resources.
	In fact, Fox at some, at a certain point was just, just put on, of course, the Murdoch property, just put on the, uh, uh, just streamed sky news live.
	Yeah, that's handy.
	So it was extremely difficult to get any information.
	But what happened on my end is my, I got to use the phrase that the millennials like saying, I've never used it before.
	My phone was blowing up.
	I'd like to tell you.
	My phone was blowing up.
	And through the app that I was using, I was actually able to transpose that Into an outline with time stamps exactly of what the information I was getting in real time as it was coming in.
	And there's so much we did not hear about.
	So much.
	It's really...
	Paris, in Paris itself, two guys were apprehended with a van full of explosives trying to blow up the Eiffel Tower.
	Wow, I didn't hear that either.
	There was a guy in Nice who was apprehended with a machete.
	There was another truck with two guys apprehended.
	A lot of stuff was going on.
	A lot of things.
	And, of course, we heard none of that.
	None of that.
	Let me see.
	I do have a couple of clips.
	And both of them have nothing to do with any of the good stuff, but I think they're interesting clips.
	One of them is the ICE is taking responsibility way after the fact for this, even though it's possible that...
	It did have something to do with it, but we don't know.
	Well, the ISIS... And to be fair, ISIS taking responsibility once again came from Rita Katz.
	Oh, is this...
	And this last one was a Rita Katz thing?
	Yes.
	But Rita didn't have one for the Istanbul airport a couple weeks ago.
	Okay.
	Just out of interest.
	There's something crazy about this, but it sounds bogus anyway, so let's play this ISIS claims niece...
	The Islamic State has claimed responsibility for Thursday night's terrorist atrocity in the French city of Nice.
	In a statement, it said the attacker was one of its soldiers who answered the call to target citizens of states fighting the terror group.
	The man responsible for the massacre was a Tunisian-born heavy goods driver from Nice.
	He was known to police but had no record with either the French or Tunisian intelligence services.
	There are reports his behavior had changed dramatically prior to the attack.
	He became aggressive Now the only reason I like this clip is because of this somehow, this new idea of radicalizing overnight.
	Well, I can back this up a little bit as, of course, what his father said in some interview was he was mentally unstable, he was taking meds.
	Yes, I actually have that clip too.
	Oh, I want you to play that and then I have one to...
	Okay, play Maniac in Nice.
	A little bit more light was shed on this tragedy today, Scott, when Mohamed Bilal's father gave an interview in Tunisia where he lives and he did confirm that his son had a history of mental illness and had in fact suffered several breakdowns in the past.
	Liz Palmer in East Forest tonight.
	Thanks, Liz.
	So you'll recall on Thursday's show, I played a clip from Richard Stengel, Undersecretary of State for Public Affairs.
	This was the guy who was saying, well, you know, sometimes ISIS has a positive message, the digital caliphate is waning, so here's what's going on.
	I think now, because the digital caliphate is shrinking, they are looking for people who have mental health issues, who are psychotic, and they're trying to pinpoint those.
	That's why I made that clip, because we did play that.
	Lockstep.
	Lockstep?
	Again.
	Again, we're ahead of it.
	Uh-huh.
	Sadly.
	Now, okay, so before going into an analysis of what we think is going on, a couple of key points.
	Actually, Megyn Kelly, I have to say, had a couple.
	She did an hour-long show, and she had a lot of We're good to go.
	And so she kind of sets the tone and tells us, you know, what's up and what we need to believe about this particular attack.
	A U.S. government official tells Fox News that the Homeland Security Secretary, Jay Johnson, is receiving regular updates on the attack.
	The official said, given the indicators, a soft target in a major economic tourist hub on the French national holiday, it all points to terrorism and ISIS. That has become more brazen in its targets and plots.
	The official said they are, quote, starting with terrorism and then working back.
	The official said a threat stream for trucks used as killing machines or laden with explosives was not in today's intelligence brief nor in recent days and described the attack in Nice as, quote, a surprise that they were in fact blindsided.
	Tonight, two sources, including one that tracks jihadist social media, report that ISIS accounts are, quote, I like that.
	These are not leadership accounts.
	This is not a claim of responsibility.
	But it all came from Rita Katz.
	That's where these messages came from.
	This is not a claim of responsibility, and these are not leadership accounts, but it gives us a flavor of the attack's immediate impact.
	And a former senior intelligence official is drawing our attention tonight to Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and this fall 2010 edition of its propaganda magazine, Inspire.
	It calls on followers to use trucks as killing machines to mow down civilians.
	Al-Qaeda and ISIS share the same tactics, but Al-Qaeda has really been the one to champion these styles of plots with trucks, Megan.
	Catherine, thank you.
	You're welcome.
	So, at first I thought, well, this is just a little spy pixie girl just pulling something out to make a report interesting, to reach back to a 2010 Inspire magazine written by Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula about using trucks and vehicles, which, by the way, the Palestinians have been doing this for years.
	This is nothing new.
	But then she brings on the same...
	A couple minutes later...
	Former speechwriter for George W. Bush.
	So, you know, that guy knows something.
	And here's what he had to say.
	When I saw this attack and the news unfolding, I immediately recalled a series of articles in the Al-Qaeda and the Arabian Peninsula magazine Inspire called Open Source Jihad, which were published in 2010.
	And one of those articles...
	Described exactly what happened in Paris today.
	This was the magazine that was published by Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, who are two American-born al-Qaeda terrorists.
	And this article, The Ultimate Mowing Machine.
	Let me just read you this, because this is exactly what happened.
	The Ultimate Mowing Machine.
	I like the fact that he says Paris instead of Nice.
	Oh yeah.
	But the guy is...
	First of all, I'd be saying, oh, I remembered all of a sudden this 2010...
	The guy probably wrote it.
	He probably wrote it.
	American-born Al-Qaeda terrorists.
	In this article, The Ultimate Mowing Machine, let me just read you this because this is exactly what happened.
	The idea is to use a pickup truck as a mowing machine, not to mow grass, but to mow down the enemies of Allah.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	He said this is exactly what happened.
	And it's not.
	At all.
	It's not a pickup truck.
	No, it's not at all.
	For one thing, there's no pickup truck involved.
	Oh, no.
	The ultimate mowing machine.
	Let me just read you this, because this is exactly what happened.
	The idea is to use a pickup truck as a mowing machine, not to mow grass, but to mow down the enemies of Allah.
	Pick your location and timing carefully.
	Go for the most crowded locations.
	To achieve maximum carnage, you need to pick up as much speed as you can while still retaining good control of your vehicle in order to strike as many people as possible in your first run.
	The ideal location Is a place where there are maximum number of pedestrians and the least number of vehicles.
	If you can get through the pedestrian-only areas that exist in some downtown city areas, that would be fabulous.
	And finally, this is the kicker.
	If you have access to firearms, carry them with you so that you may use them to finish off your work if your vehicle gets grounded during the attack.
	The idea would be to implement it in countries like Israel, the U.S., Britain, Canada, Australia, and France.
	That is exactly what happened tonight.
	Al-Qaeda published it in 2010 in their magazine Inspire.
	This is back to the Ammar al-Awlaki writings, which remain on long past his death, which some criticized in the drone program.
	Did you hear what she did there?
	I thought that was interesting.
	What she did...
	She said, well, actually...
	This is Herridge again.
	No, this is Kelly.
	That was Kelly, not Herridge?
	Yeah.
	Oh, listen to the whole bit at the end here.
	...past his death, which some criticized in the drone program, and people continue to find inspiration from that magazine.
	Unfortunately, Mark, there's not much we can do about it.
	What she's saying is President Obama is the one who gave the kill order for Anwar Al-Awlaki.
	What I hear her saying is, well, this, of course, now we have all this crap coming because this guy has been martyred.
	He's a hero.
	People are getting inspiration from his writings in Inspire magazine, this whole inspired by thing.
	So indirectly, indirectly blaming President Obama for...
	That would be...
	It's very coy.
	It's coy, but I think it's intentional, and I think there's more behind it.
	Now, Kelly had this guy.
	I've seen him before.
	Former radical fundamentalist, who now is wearing the suit and is an analyst.
	Yes, I know who this guy gets around.
	I know who it is.
	I thought he had...
	I have two little bits from him here.
	I thought his explanation of what happened in Nice, from an Occam's Razor perspective, what is the simplest explanation?
	I think he nailed it in a minute.
	Joining us now from London, Majid Nawaz, who's a former Islamic fundamentalist who now leads a counter-extremist think tank.
	Majid, thank you for being here with us.
	Here we are again, France, with its third major terror attack in a year.
	Why?
	Let's be clear, I mean, these sorts of attacks are not unexpected, at least they shouldn't have been.
	Hamas has for years been encouraging its followers to use vehicles to drive up on pavements and to kill Israeli citizens.
	Megan, in 2010, Al-Qaeda announced to the world that it wanted its followers to do the same.
	And only two years ago, in 2014, ISIS spokesperson Adnani not only encouraged their followers in ISIS, To get into vehicles and to mow people down on the streets, he specifically said, especially in France.
	There are a number of reasons jihadists are angry with France.
	One of them, among many others, as we know, is the tragic attack on the Charlie Hebdo offices and their stance on free speech was a laudable, praiseworthy stance.
	And the second is the ban on face veils.
	So jihadists have taken it upon themselves to attack France as a symbolic gesture Very good messaging from him.
	Very good messaging.
	I think a lot of people will buy into that lock, stock and barrel.
	Now, this is the next part.
	I like his wording here, his verbiage.
	What do you think the odds are that this really was a lone wolf?
	I don't use that phrase.
	I use the phrase self-starter, because these days, people are inspired online and offline by all forms of networks, by relatives, by people they've been listening to on videos online, or by other attacks that they've seen.
	So they're certainly inspired by the jihadist ideology, whether they start...
	The operation themselves or are taking command directly from ISIS headquarters.
	You know, we've looked into this.
	Very, very few people, if any, are lone wolves in the literal sense of that word.
	Okay.
	She's picked up to this habit of Amy has, which is...
	Actually, Amy's mostly...
	That's why I'm leaving it in, because she goes...
	Yeah, leave it in.
	Final clip from this show, which I thought...
	It really was fun to watch.
	She did a good job.
	Before whatever...
	It's funny, because I have a Megan clip where she didn't do...
	Didn't do such a good job.
	Oh, I'll play it right after this.
	Of course, when you have all these issues cropping up, you need to bring in someone to represent the Muslim community.
	And Megan brought in Dr.
	Zudi Jasser, who is the co-founder and CEO of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
	And he did something very interesting.
	You know, the big problem here in the United States is we cannot, the government will not say radical Islamic terrorism has been obfuscated from all the training materials.
	We have to be politically correct.
	You can't use these terms.
	So this guy comes in and sets us up in his one or two sentences for the new term he would like us to use.
	As a Muslim, I'll tell you, who loves my country and loves freedom is about defeating political Islam.
	It's about defeating the Sharia state.
	And yes, you know, I agree with the Jair that we need a leader to do it because they're drinking from the same drug, the intoxicant of theocratic Islam, their Sharia state.
	So what we need to land on is is develop a strategy that we call the enemy and declare war, just like we did in the Cold War against communism, declare war against political, theocratic Islam.
	laughs So it should be political theocratic Islam.
	I have a feeling that may get legs.
	No.
	Yeah, it will.
	It's so dumb.
	I'll put five bucks on it.
	You're not going to hear it again.
	Done.
	Five bucks.
	Done.
	Five bucks.
	Yeah, it's so nutty that I think, oh, this is a good way to explain it.
	It's too long.
	Well, it's shorter than radical Islam.
	PLDR, I mean, come on.
	Now, a couple of things I noticed that happened very early on.
	One, President Hollande made a statement saying, hey, we were going to stop the security threat on the 26th of July.
	We're extending it for another three months, which is, you know, a big deal.
	So it was handy for him.
	I'm sure he wanted that.
	Remember, he is also in a re-election, what would you call it, in a re-election cycle.
	Yeah, that's a campaign.
	A campaign.
	Yeah, thank you.
	He's not that popular anymore.
	Well, no.
	Of course not.
	His biggest worry, I'm sure, is not about citizens.
	I'm sure his biggest worry is, how am I going to get re-elected to Le Pen if someone's going to get this?
	Because people are freaking out.
	Yeah, this is perfect for Le Pen.
	Yeah.
	So what happened here, this quickly radicalized thing, is of course the key.
	And how that happened, or who radicalized him, or just how he got into this frame of mind, we'll probably never know.
	But there's a lot of ways and a lot of actors who could make that happen.
	But the result, of course, I get lots of boots-on-the-ground reports from people who...
	Even the FBI, when they get some guy who's like one of these characters, and they take him down the primrose path to pushing a button, it takes them really six months to nine months to a year sometimes to get these guys to commit.
	This quick radicalization thing is very sketchy.
	It certainly is.
	And just how it all went down.
	I mean, we really have just sketchy reports.
	But man, this was...
	A game changer.
	I think it was a real game changer in what's happening.
	And I hate to be from the future, but I would keep July 23rd in mind as a date.
	If we're looking at, if this is the new normal, I love saying that.
	If this is the new normal, the killing, and killing people with vehicles is not new.
	I mean, this has happened all over Europe and in the Middle East.
	This is not a new thing.
	It happened with a bus in San Francisco by accident.
	This was really, this was a big one.
	July 23rd will be Gay Pride Day, simultaneously celebrated in Amsterdam and Berlin.
	You know, my theory has always been if you want to get attention, you've got to start killing gays.
	Now, Amsterdam, it's the canal gay pride, which logistically is difficult, I think, to...
	Well, you're not going to drive a truck into the canal.
	But if you look at the...
	Drive a truck.
	If you look at the Strasser in Berlin, where this is being held...
	I actually have a picture for it.
	You know, it's like a 12-lane road, and straight is narrow, and it's going to be filled with people.
	I'm just saying it.
	Yeah, it would be an interesting target.
	The Germans, I think they gave their act together enough to prevent it, but we'll see.
	We'll see.
	We will see.
	Back to this clip I have of Kelly losing it.
	This was about...
	Oh, yes.
	Everybody save the date, everybody.
	July 23rd.
	Save the date.
	So, you mentioned Sharia and all this, and there's a big discussion about it because of what Newt Gingrich did, which was, in fact, I think it's in this clip.
	Newt Gingrich comes out and says that someone who believes in Sharia should be deported from the U.S. Everybody brought it up as a talking point.
	Gingrich, of course, taking any pressure off of Trump for saying crazy stuff.
	And Kelly, she drops the clip, and then she decides to bring on three people to discuss Sharia law and the clip.
	And she brings on two...
	Imams from the same cult.
	It's like not even normal Shia, Sunni, Islam.
	It's these other guys.
	It's some other group.
	I think they're the same group that they persecute in Pakistan.
	And they're both from this group.
	And they don't know what they're talking about.
	They can't say anything.
	They're just babbling.
	And one guy just babbles away.
	And it confuses her so much that she starts to blah, blah.
	And then she ends.
	I didn't put the whole thing in there because it gets worse.
	But let's just play this clip.
	ISIS-affiliated groups are promising that the violence we saw in Nice, France, is likely to continue across the globe.
	And Newt Gingrich is taking some heat tonight for suggesting that American Muslims who subscribe to Sharia law should actually be deported.
	Here's what Gingrich told Sean Hannity last night.
	Western civilization is in a war.
	We should, frankly, test every person from here who is of a Muslim background, and if they believe in Sharia, they should be deported.
	Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.
	Azam Akram is Imam of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community in Chicago.
	Brigitte Gabriel is a New York Times bestselling author and president of Act for America.
	And Sheikh Ahmed Salman is Imam of the Dar es Salaam mosque in San Francisco.
	Thank you all so much for being here.
	Ahmed, let me start with you on this and your thoughts on Newt's proposal to potentially deport American Muslims who follow Sharia law.
	First of all, thank you, Megan, for having me.
	That's fine.
	That's for Achmed, sorry.
	To begin with, Kelly, I think Newet Gingrich does not know anything about you.
	Did he just call her Kelly?
	Instead of Megan?
	Hey, Kelly.
	I think so, and he says Newet.
	Newet.
	Newet instead of Newet.
	First of all, thank you.
	And by the way, it starts off bad with the two guys talking over each other because she called out the wrong guy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's what threw her off, I think.
	That got her a little frazzled.
	American Muslims who follow Sharia law.
	First of all, thank you, Megan, for having us on.
	That's for Ahmed, sorry.
	To begin with, Kelly, I think Newet Gingrich does not know anything about Sharia.
	Before he understands Sharia, if we talk about Sharia, it stands totally on the basis of justice.
	What we see in the United States as the Constitution, it is on the basis of justice, and the Holy Quran teaches that we have to obey by the law of the land.
	So this is what Sharia is.
	Now, in order for Gingrich to know more about this, you can come to my mosque in Darussalam Mosque, House of Peace, where we can talk more about Sharia on that matter.
	But, Brigitte, what about...
	I mean, I don't know if it's Sharia, but Islamism is, you know, considered problematic by...
	She's just blowing it.
	Now she's just completely...
	Because the guy said nothing.
	No.
	He said...
	And then he plugs his mosque.
	The other guy pretty much says the same thing and plugs his mosque.
	I think he throws a website out there.
	There's these two jokers...
	Should have never been booked in the first place.
	And it got her all frustrated.
	And then meanwhile, this woman that was there who's been on before, she's just like a, you know, just goes nuts about these guys being full of crap.
	And neither one of them representative of anything.
	And it was just, the whole segment was just like a jaw-dropping disaster.
	Yeah.
	And then he calls her Kelly.
	Kelly.
	That's pretty good.
	Well, on Sharia, just to tie into it, the new Prime Minister of Britain, Theresa May, she made, this is like a short clip, but it's a statement about Sharia in the UK and what she's going to do about it to investigate what's going on.
	But just listen to the words, and maybe I misunderstood, I'm reading too much into it, but let's listen.
	For too long, I think politicians in this country refused...
	Notice she uses my favorite word, which is in this country.
	She don't love her country.
	You don't love your country, lady.
	For too long, I think politicians in this country refused to look at the issue of Sharia law and just allowed this to continue without any question.
	So far, so good.
	I've been the politician who's been willing to say, no, I'm concerned that Sharia law is operating in a way that could discriminate against women and that could be counter to what is our single rule of law that we have in the UK. So there is one rule of law in the UK, but that's why I've set up the...
	Review that I have, chaired by Professor Mona Siddiqui, and that will be looking at the operation of Sharia law and whether it is actually operating discriminate against women and counter to our overall rule of law.
	So here she mentions that same Siddiqui guy who we heard on...
	No, that's a different guy.
	I'm sorry.
	Siddiqui.
	But what I hear her say is it's operating in Britain, and we know about it, and we're just going to check and make sure if it's compatible with our laws.
	Is that what you heard?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, that's an outrage.
	Well...
	There should be no...
	There's only one rule of law.
	And she's saying, but we'll check it.
	But let me just listen to it.
	Okay.
	But that's why I've set up the review that I have, chaired by Professor Mona Siddiqui, and that will be looking at the operation of Sharia law and whether it is actually operating discriminate against women and counter to our overall rule of law.
	So it's okay.
	It's operating.
	It's going on.
	We're just going to make sure it's okay.
	Come on!
	Well, what are you concluding here?
	That it's going on and she's not really going to do much about it.
	Well, how is it different?
	From a men's club that has its rules, and if you're a member of that club and you have some dispute, the club makes decisions that may or may not be discriminatory because you've ascribed to the rules of the club.
	How is it any different than Sharia?
	In Great Britain, they have all these Sharia centers.
	They're all over the place, where people, they have a dispute.
	The guy's wife isn't...
	Given him enough sex, he goes in there and then they chop her hand off.
	But they don't do the chopping in any of these places.
	They don't do anything like that.
	They just give you, they give rulings, but they don't do any of the stonings or choppings or anything really bad.
	I don't see it any different than the Commonwealth Club or the Olympic Club in San Francisco or the Century Club in New York.
	You can't just do anything and not have the club within the club's rules and not be punished.
	So what's the difference?
	Well, you got me, John.
	It's okay.
	We should probably have it here, too.
	Just have the Sharia Club.
	Good to go.
	I'm just saying.
	I know.
	I hear you.
	It acts as a club.
	Unless you want to start cracking down on all these clubs.
	I'm fine with that.
	We crack down on clubs all the time for racism, for exclusionary practices, for anti-Semitism.
	We crack down on them all the time.
	You don't crack down on all of them.
	No.
	Not the Sharia clubs.
	No.
	So, to me...
	What she should have said, what the British people want to hear is, there's one rule of law.
	We're going to make sure that if a crime takes place...
	Because they're, you know, like adultery, you know, considered a crime by Christian values.
	We will make sure that if something needs to be, just a quick example, something that it will be prosecuted by British law.
	And you can't have your own little courts.
	Okay, there's no law against adultery in Britain that I know of.
	I'm not so sure about that.
	I don't think there is.
	I mean, people have affairs all the time.
	Okay, let's take Texas.
	Texas has adultery laws.
	That is a divorceable offense.
	Let's take California where there's no adultery laws that I know of.
	And so you commit adultery.
	And that's okay.
	You're fine.
	You're good to go.
	But because you've subscribed to the Sharia system and you're a Muslim and you feel obliged to go to the Sharia guys tell you, no, you can't do this.
	But what are you going to do?
	You're going to kill the guy?
	You can't do that because that is against the law.
	So they're abiding the law.
	They're within the legal system because the Sharia system in England, they're not executing anybody.
	You know, I don't have a reply for you there.
	I just think that that is not the message the British people want to hear.
	Well, what I'm saying is nobody wants to hear.
	Right.
	Okay.
	There's other issues with Sharia that you have to deal with, which is it wants to supersede when you get that situation where it wants to take over.
	We should have Sharia law, the whole thing, the law of the land.
	That's the issue.
	These bullshit Sharia clubs, as I call them, I think are beside the point.
	I think they're distraction.
	In fact, they lead to my argument.
	Okay.
	Which is not really the point.
	My argument's not the point.
	The point is?
	The point is that these countries that have subscribed to Sharia and make it the law of the land, where they can impose the entire system, which includes killing you for different things, like adultery, that's different.
	John, in a country where you cannot even tweet...
	Something negative about migrants without being arrested for hate speech.
	It's a little odd!
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The French Prime Minister came out and he said some very annoying things.
	The French did not like this.
	Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism.
	We should learn to live with terrorism, he says.
	Times have changed.
	Well, let's just move to Israel.
	Yeah, if you don't want any terrorism.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And then was it the same foreign minister, I think, who came out and he said, let me see if I have a clip of that.
	I may not, but he said, we're going to respond with full force.
	And that was rather underreported.
	But he was very clear.
	We are going to go full force.
	At the same time, the intelligence official, intelligence chief for France, what's his name here?
	Patrick Calabar.
	He said, another terrorist attack could spark a civil war in France.
	I mean, these are things not to say in the heat of the moment.
	Let's see how that's possible.
	Well, hey, the French are no strangers to, you know, mixing it up.
	Better excuse than a couple of maniacs.
	And I don't...
	You know, I've talked to...
	A lot of French who are sympathetic with the Muslims in their country.
	And they can...
	I got into an argument with one of them.
	And they said that the situation was poverty.
	It was that they couldn't get work.
	It was jobs.
	It was a jobs poverty related thing.
	It's got nothing to do with anything.
	I'm not buying that, by the way.
	But...
	Well, there is ghetto.
	I don't see the seas of a civil war.
	Well, there's lots of ghettoization.
	I mean, we're on the brink of a civil war here ourselves.
	You know, a form of...
	You know, it's not going to be North versus South.
	But we have a black versus white thing happening right now.
	Those are all different.
	And civil wars is where, you know, civil wars are different.
	They're bigger.
	They're massive.
	They're huge.
	They're the ones that are overthrowing the government, burning down the White House, the Congress, the Senate, how everything goes.
	I mean, it gets...
	Is there a save the date?
	Is there a save the date for that?
	For burning down the White House?
	Save the date.
	Save the date, everybody.
	So I think this is just a lot of blather.
	Well, so now we transition.
	Unless you have more specifically on niece.
	I'm done with niece.
	Okay.
	Transition.
	Judge Judy Janine.
	Judge Janine.
	That's what it is.
	Judge Janine.
	Your favorite.
	Now, again, everyone's on location in Ohio because that's where all the bloodshed is going to flow.
	Everyone's ready for that.
	We'll get to that later.
	Bring your Band-Aids.
	Especially after today.
	Bring your Band-Aids.
	On there, the most elitist douche we know, John Bolton, former ambassador to the United Nations.
	And Judge Jeanine loves him.
	Yeah.
	It's good TV. And he brought out a story that I've been following for a couple of days now.
	That you may have heard about, and I have a lot of questions about.
	Here we go.
	You know, this is France three times.
	They had Charlie Hebdo, the Bataclons, and now Nice.
	Why is this happening in France?
	What is unique about France?
	Why France as opposed to the other countries?
	Between France and Belgium, they are magnets for people from the Middle East speaking French, former French colonies.
	And I think they're particularly vulnerable.
	You know, I was in Paris the weekend before the attack on Nice.
	There were armed, uniformed military all over the center of Paris, apparently not in Nice and some of the other cities.
	And just revealed earlier this week, to show what the mentality of the French government is, A testimony about the torture that the victims of the Bataclan killing suffered before they died, that you can't even repeat on this newscast, that the French government suppressed, not telling, not treating the citizens of France like adults to let them know what criminals these terrorists are.
	Why?
	I think because they share, the President Hollande de France shares with President Obama a fear that when people learn the real terrorist threat, that in their minds we will overreact, meaning we'll defend ourselves.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Now, have you read this torture report from the Bataclan?
	I have not.
	Okay.
	Now, I have issues.
	I have issues with the information we already have about Bataclan.
	It was supposed to be three people.
	Two of them blew themselves up.
	You know, we know about the death toll.
	So this started circulating probably Thursday as well.
	And it is a French government committee...
	Who has heard testimony, which is being claimed to be suppressed by the French government.
	You heard Bolton right there say, it's so horrible that we can't even mention it on the air.
	Well, of course, because it's Fox, but no agenda show can mention it on the air.
	So here is...
	Okay, this is a question and answer, because that's what this report is.
	It's in French.
	There's many translations of it.
	For the information of the Commission of Inquiry, can you tell us how you learned that there had been acts of barbarism within the Bataclan?
	And the investigator says, after the assault, we were with colleagues at the passage of Pierre Amelot, and I saw a weeping from one of our colleagues who came outside to vomit.
	He told us what he had seen.
	Acts of torture on the second floor.
	And the bodies had not been presented to family members because of the following things that apparently happened.
	People were disemboweled.
	Women had their genitals stabbed.
	Some men had their testicles cut off and shoved into their mouth.
	Eyes were gouged out with a knife punctured in the eye and sliced down the right-hand side of someone's face.
	So, somehow, this is the problem I have with this, if it really was only three terrorists, two of which detonated themselves, how exactly did this happen?
	Did one of them go upstairs to the second floor to gouge everybody's eyes out and cut off testicles and stuff them into people's mouths while one other guy was watching a hundred people?
	I mean, even the timeline is very odd.
	But it is an official government committee testimony, so it's just testimony, and apparently Daesh, as they call it, took photos and videos of this with the intent to use it in future propaganda films.
	Now, this is interesting to me because there was another report that came out about ISIL. And it was like, I don't know where this was floating around.
	I didn't really pick up on it.
	But it was a similar report about what they're doing behind the scenes.
	And it included eye gouging.
	So I believe eye gouging is going to be some sort of a meme.
	Well, I like the testicles in the mouth thing.
	Made famous, of course, by the Mexicans.
	I guess they're members of the Italian mafia?
	Is that what that tries to imply?
	Or the Mexican drug lords?
	They do that.
	I think the Mexican drug lords do the testicles.
	Mafia does penis.
	Okay.
	There's code.
	There's code of conduct.
	We do things differently in the mob.
	But what you're saying is because it was a hectic situation, who had time to do this?
	Yeah, but if you read the report of Bataclan, and this has not been mentioned by any survivors, it's missing...
	Photos and video apparently exist.
	We haven't seen it yet, but it's supposed to be used in the future.
	And why would the French government suppress this, yet it leaks out?
	And here we have John Bolton, who is a douche of the highest order.
	We know he's a douche, douche of the highest order.
	You know, propagating this and it's, oh, it's so horrible, we can't even talk about it on this network.
	It didn't sound like it was something you couldn't talk about.
	I agree.
	Why didn't they talk about it?
	Why are you talking about it?
	Why didn't they talk about it?
	It wasn't like a bunch of...
	It wasn't crazy.
	So you never heard anything like that before?
	Well, he's only using it as a propagandistic tool to say how crazy these people are.
	I find the report very, very difficult to believe.
	Yeah.
	But it's there.
	It's there.
	So Bolton then transitioned into what I thought was a decent backgrounder on what happened in Turkey.
	And we can get into that now.
	The Turkish state that we made a NATO ally was the outcome of the country that rose out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire after World War I. Mustafa Kemal wanted a Europe-oriented, secular, Muslim, but secular government.
	No established religion.
	He abolished the last Islamic caliphate.
	That's why Osama bin Laden and ISIS are so intent on creating another one.
	I just thought it was interesting that he uses the present tense for Osama bin Laden.
	It may just be a mistake, but, you know, as if he's still alive.
	Europe-oriented, secular, Muslim, but secular government.
	No established religion.
	He abolished the last...
	Can I stop for a second?
	Just on that thought.
	If he was still alive, Bolt would be the last guy to know.
	True.
	It's just a matter of form.
	...established religion.
	He abolished the last Islamic caliphate.
	That's why Osama bin Laden and ISIS are so intent on creating another one.
	And Mustafa Kemal thought if we could...
	Was Osama bin Laden intent on creating a new caliphate in the Islamic State?
	I don't think that was ever his messaging.
	I don't think so either.
	And the reason I say that is because the ISIS people, when they declared their caliphate, were doing it because the Osama's group weren't interested in that sort of thing.
	They didn't want to establish a political base.
	They wanted to be this movement that's a movement, not a state.
	They didn't want a state.
	So that's bullcrap.
	...are so intent on creating another one.
	And Mustafa Kemal thought if we couldn't break free of this Islamic hold, we would never make Turkey a modern country.
	So for a hundred years, the military was the guarantee against establishing Islam as the state religion.
	Erdogan has been clearing that away.
	So I believe this coup was kind of a last-ditch, last-gasp effort by the pro-secular military forces.
	It's been crushed, there's no doubt about it.
	But what's interesting, Ambassador, is that it worked in Egypt, where the Egyptians said, no, we don't want, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood, we don't want to go radical Islam.
	But the same thing, the military coup didn't work in Turkey.
	It's a very important It's a very important comparison because for the past 10 years or more, Erdogan has been systematically purging the upper reaches of the Turkish military of pro-secular generals and admirals.
	He's put in personal loyalists and Islamicists.
	He's done one other thing.
	He's been purging the judiciary.
	Yes.
	Which was kind of a co-guarantor of the secular nature of the state.
	And I'll just give you a small example.
	Today, in New York, the U.N. Security Council was considering a presidential statement, it's called, by the president of the Security Council, supporting the Erdogan government blocked by Egypt.
	Which said, you cannot say that the Erdogan government is democratic.
	So the El-Sisi government in Egypt, picking up exactly on your point, sees what's happening.
	I think this is a very disturbing moment for the United States.
	It could mean the loss of Turkey as an ally.
	I think Erdogan will use the failed coup now as an excuse to move.
	To crack down, he's arrested thousands of people already.
	Power was turned off at an important U.S. airbase in Turkey.
	That was our base.
	Our base.
	Now, Erdogan is also demanding, in effect, the extradition of the cleric in Pennsylvania.
	Is that going to happen?
	Well, we need to know whether, in fact, Gulen did have any involvement in this.
	We have U.S. laws against that sort of thing.
	Extradition.
	But on the other hand, I think if he's extradited, he'll never see the light of day again.
	So we have to be very careful about bowing to Erdogan's demand here.
	Well, he certainly is going to be acting quite differently now.
	He doesn't need to be as moderate as he was.
	It's very disturbing.
	You can't really calculate just how bad this is at the moment.
	This is bad.
	Just being on all the social networks is the amount of No Agenda producers who were tweeting and posting saying, holy crap, we know who this guy is.
	We know Fethullah Gulen.
	I saw that too.
	We've been hearing this on the No Agenda show for years.
	For years.
	So I like that a lot.
	Before we move on to anything else, a quick ditty from General Wesley Clark.
	Of course, he is the guy who's always...
	Giving us inside info and slipping up, and we have the Wes Clark 7.
	And he came on Anderson Pooper with just a little ditty that, well, listen.
	General Clark, what do you make of what you have been witnessing over these last several hours?
	Lots of mistakes by the coup executors, and we don't know who they really are yet.
	They're not identified.
	Mistakes such as?
	Not arresting the president, not shutting down the Internet, not being able to block the social media, not having sufficient troops with sufficient power to intimidate protesters.
	The thing about these coups, and certainly we're not encouraging it, we're discouraging it, but history shows that if you're going to execute one of these coups, you have to really mean it.
	Yes, you have to really mean it.
	I don't think it was meant.
	Oh, you didn't play the rest of that.
	Oh, you have the rest?
	Yeah, you should play Mike, because there's an anecdote he throws in at the end of that, that I just thought was funny.
	It really had nothing to do with Turkey, but the anecdote itself was funny.
	Which clip is it?
	The Under Coup?
	Wesley Clark, got it.
	Yeah, I didn't receive it.
	This is all of the clip I had, so I'm glad you have the rest.
	General Clark, what do you make of what you have been witnessing over these last several hours?
	Lots of mistakes by the coup executors and we don't know who they really are yet.
	They're not identified.
	Mistakes such as?
	Not arresting the president, not shutting down the internet, not being able to block the social media, not having sufficient troops with sufficient power to intimidate protesters.
	The thing about These coups, and certainly we're not encouraging it, we're discouraging it, but history shows that if you're going to execute one of these coups, you have to really mean it.
	I mean, going back to Panama in 1989, when a man walked in on dictator Noriega, and after a couple of hours, Noriega talked him into giving up the pistol, and then they shot him, because the guy who executed the coup didn't really mean it.
	So in this case, I think All the indicators, to me, look like it's not successful.
	He didn't really mean it.
	Some guy walks in, give me your gun, okay, boom, without thinking, just shoots him immediately.
	Which is what the guy should have done to Noriega if he wanted to have a coup.
	Wait, before you go any further, I want to give you, I have some stuff for us, a little package of stuff that is handy as we go through this.
	Okay, well, before you do that, then, play my secondary clip, which is part of that save package.
	No, no, no, no.
	I want to open this, and then we can go into your clip.
	It's just a nice thing to have open while we're talking about this.
	Go to 843.grumpyradio.com.
	843.grumpyradio.com 843.grumpy.com Those of you at home can play along.
	.com Okay, so you have your live notes?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Actually, just at the top there, you see Berlin Street.
	Just click on that, and you can see the street I was talking about, the Strasse, where the gay pride will be held.
	Yes, that would be...
	You could run down hundreds of people.
	Yeah, it'd be great.
	Now, Turkey.
	This is the most important map that I think...
	I love maps.
	This is Turkey, and it shows you the NATO... Bases, the U.S. military presence slash bases, and, of course, the Navy.
	Just look at this.
	Istanbul, Rapid Deployable Corps, Ankara, U.S. Office of Defense Corporation, Partnership for Peace Training Center, Center of Excellence Defense Against Terrorism.
	We have Allied Land Command, NATO Patriot Missile Batteries.
	We have a missile defense radar.
	I mean, who is in charge of this country, really, when you look at it?
	NATO and the U.S. are in charge.
	Well, Erdogan doesn't probably care for that.
	No, of course he doesn't care for it, but it's important to have this...
	In the back of your mind.
	And what you see on this page is just a whole bunch of supporting material about what happened and just some things that I don't think...
	I've not been able to find any other screen grab of Erdogan talking on FaceTime, which must piss off Zuckerberg to no end, that he's not using FaceBag Live.
	That was the weirdest thing to see, because on the FaceTime thing, and then some woman holding his head...
	In her hand.
	In her hand.
	Yeah.
	Like that is very strange.
	In fact, if you saw that on a movie...
	Actually, JC pointed this out.
	If you saw that on a movie before you actually saw it in real life, you'd think this was really contrived.
	Yeah, it's something from Mr.
	Robot almost.
	And it's like very...
	Yes, exactly.
	And...
	Well, anyway, I mean, I think we've probably come to the same conclusion that this whole thing was phony.
	Well, but the question is, who did the phony?
	Erdogan.
	I don't think so.
	Okay, well, you can tell me why later, but let's play this clip.
	This is the follow-up clip to Wesley Clark, who said, and the reason I'm...
	That Clark clip, I think, is the most important one.
	Because there are a number of...
	You can buy...
	There's two major books out there that you can buy.
	Correct.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the other one is Coup d'Etat, which is also available on Amazon.
	And there's a couple of other books that are less important.
	But those two books are the outline.
	They outline exactly how to do it.
	And when Clark came out and made his comment that they botched this thing because they didn't capture the president, who was conveniently out of town.
	Well, hold on.
	Just if you look at my map, at my page, you'll see I have the flight radar track of Erdogan's plane where he was down in the south.
	There's a hotel.
	That has houses, and he has a house there, and that's where he was.
	You'll see further down, you'll see that there was a shootout there, and he escaped that location via helicopter to get onto his Gulfstream 4, and you can see the tracking.
	You can see that he wanted to go land in Istanbul, and he was put into a holding pattern for quite a while, because he was told that if he lands, then he'll be captured, shot, etc., And you believe all this?
	I'm going to listen to you.
	I just want to say, right below that, just for your benefit, the first propaganda cartoon showing Erdogan, it was like, coup in Turkey, fact or fiction, portraying him as an actor who was making this up with this popularity soaring.
	I just want to point out that that is done by Carlos Latouf.
	Who's a guy in Brazil, but he is always...
	In fact, he always does political cartoons very, very quickly.
	And I think he's an asset by propagating these things.
	I wouldn't be surprised.
	And I would say that there was a little bit too much.
	In fact, I have a clip.
	Let me see what my clip list looks like.
	I have to put my glasses on constantly.
	I'm sorry.
	That's okay.
	But have you considered a chain?
	It's a funny idea.
	It's a horrible idea.
	This is on RT. And RT was very...
	It was interesting because RT didn't want to listen to what this woman had to say.
	This is their normal...
	This is Coop.
	Coop.
	Coop RT. Weird Twitter report.
	...of a potentially failed military coup in Turkey.
	My colleague Emily Su here.
	You're monitoring all the social apps right now.
	The latest feeds you're getting from Twitter.
	Yeah.
	Well, Rory, now the question everybody on Twitter is asking, what's going to come next?
	What is President Erdogan going to do following this attempted failed coup?
	And now everybody is saying that there's possibly going to be a purge coming up.
	And there's even conspiracy theories coming up saying that this could have been a coup that Erdogan staged in order to have an excuse to crack down on the military and stage a coup.
	But of course, this is just some people's opinions on Twitter and conspiracy theories not confirmed.
	But this is the sense we're getting on.
	Twitter and online.
	Well, that's already begun.
	So maybe your people you're following on Twitter are clairvoyant in some degree or they're well up to date on what's exactly going on because the purge has already started.
	Alright, now let's take that and deconstruct what went on there.
	When she says this thing, and it bothers me that there's so many people with this conspiracy theory, which I think weakens the idea, but there's too many people coming out.
	A good one of these things, if it was executed well, this would never happen.
	She says that there's a conspiracy theory that Erdogan did this on his own, and he, the guy who's the RT guy in Moscow, he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, trying to get her off that.
	Yeah.
	And why is he...
	What difference does it make to him whether or not they're going to discuss that part of the conversation?
	It just...
	I found it very weird that they would do that unless Russia's got some messaging going on and they don't want that message in the pipeline.
	That's the only thing I could think of the way that was handled.
	And meanwhile, there's this...
	There was a second clip from that same where Wesley Clark comes out and says it was botched.
	So immediately I think it was done that way on purpose because there are these ways of doing things.
	And of course you would have to say that Erdogan was attacked because they tried to grab him or something and it failed.
	That was pretty lame, it seems to me.
	But let's play.
	This is another little tidbit.
	This is part two TV station.
	It's a very short clip.
	Well, you know, the first apparent target, one of the first targets of the coup plotters was to go after state television, TRT, which frankly is not terribly popular in Turkey, and we've since learned that that has since gone back into the hands of the government.
	What didn't make sense was the fact that the coup plotters did not go after private television news networks, like our sister network, CNN Turk, like NTV. So that was another indication that this was, maybe the guys were just incompetent boneheads.
	Well, everyone I spoke to unanimously said a lot of the internet and networks were not shut down.
	They just weren't shut down.
	Now, this is something that Erdogan typically has under control.
	I mean, hey, look at what he was able to use an iPhone with FaceTime.
	I mean, there was a lot of stuff that just was left open, and it seems like that was left open on purpose.
	Was he on the ground or still flying around in that pattern when he was on FaceTime?
	No, he was in the hotel room, and the hotel is...
	I have it here...
	The Hotel Grand Yaziki Club in Turban.
	And the photos that I have on that notes page show...
	These are tourists, actually Dutch tourists, who took pictures of him.
	You can see the shells on the ground.
	You can see military around the hotel.
	But, you know, there was a firefight, but he got in a helicopter.
	And the helicopter was shooting down at the troops on the ground.
	So there was definitely stuff going on.
	I mean, you can stage a lot of things.
	I'm not going to disagree.
	But I want to hear you make the case that this was an Erdogan organized operation, i.e. a false flag for him to gain more power.
	I'd love to hear how you...
	I don't have any more proof to it.
	I mean, I'm not over there to prove this.
	No, I'm just asking.
	I'm just asking.
	It just seems to me that if you look at the results and who benefits...
	Yeah.
	And all the rest of it.
	It all benefits everyone and the whole thing.
	You know, okay, you got a bunch of shell casings all over the place.
	That's fantastic.
	Okay.
	Then can I make a case why I believe that this was a NATO CIA operation meant as a warning to Well, that has actually come up in the conversation.
	It was minor, but I did hear one of the analysts go, well, this is at least putting him in his place and getting him back on track for the westernization that's been going on or not going on.
	And, okay, I think it's a much better idea.
	And I believe that, you know, I'm always thinking we're behind all this stuff.
	And we did have Newland show up.
	Well, hold on a second.
	There in the world is Victoria Kagan Noodleman.
	Okay, this is where I want to go and I have a package for you.
	I got a package.
	So on the 14th, on the day that this all took place, not only do we have Victoria Noodleman Noodleman In Moscow, she's with John Kerry and Joe Biden.
	All three sitting down with Putin.
	All three of them.
	And the reason for this, and this is where we're going to go to the State Department and to the White House to get a little clarity, is a so-called proposal that was, as far as I can tell, made public or summarily made public the end of June.
	And the proposal was nothing really new.
	We've heard about, hey, we'd love to have Russia involved as long as you're not killing our guys, killing the guys that we're funding against Assad.
	And the trifecta went to meet with Putin on the very day that this all goes down.
	And, you know, it's not like they're sitting there going, oh, well, you know, it's just coincidence that we're here.
	No, that's suspicious.
	Very suspicious.
	Well...
	I like the explanation of why Biden had anything to do with it.
	For Ukraine.
	Because it's a deal.
	Biden is in charge of Ukraine.
	His son runs huge shit.
	Ukraine was part of the negotiation.
	However, this trip, this proposal, has been denied by the White House and the State Department.
	In the oddest way, of course, they brought the wrong one out.
	They brought Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau out to answer questions.
	So I have a couple of clips here from the State Department briefing.
	Matt Lee, of course, is the guy who points out the elephant in the room about this incident.
	If this is indeed the proposal, which is being denied that there's any proposal, strangely, he said, well, if you're doing this now, why couldn't you have done it a couple months ago with obvious results?
	The kind of proposal that's being presented or that has been presented Is being presented now, why couldn't it have been presented far earlier?
	Is it wrong to think that had this proposal been made earlier, a lot of lives could have been saved?
	I would dispute the view that our position has moved.
	Our position has been consistent, which is Assad must go.
	That there must be space to have discussions to create that area for a political transition to move.
	We have long said that we would welcome Russia's increased focus.
	On ISIL, on Al Qaeda in Syria, our common view is that these groups pose a threat to not only the people of Syria, but to both our nations.
	You know, on your question on timing, you know, again, I'm not going to get ahead of discussions that may be happening in Moscow.
	Discussions that may be happening in Moscow.
	She can't even admit that it's going on.
	Well, everybody knows it's happening.
	We have live video of Carrie and Noodleman.
	I love how Lavrov will not look at her.
	He will not look at her.
	He hates her.
	So fun to watch.
	Okay, Matt continues because he's correct.
	Why couldn't we have put this proposal together months ago and saved thousands of lives?
	If you really think that this is going to salvage the ceasefire and lead to transition talks, I think it has a chance to.
	Why didn't you do it earlier?
	I mean, thousands of people have died in the interim.
	We are absolutely aware of that.
	You know, we have been consistent.
	And calling not only for the cessation of hostilities to continue in Syria, but also to push Russia to exert its influence on the Syrian regime to make that possible.
	The mere fact that you're considering doing it is a shift.
	Yeah, I would dispute that.
	What?
	He almost said it like you.
	What?
	Shades of John C. Dvorak in the State Department.
	Considering doing it is a shift.
	Yeah, I would dispute that.
	What?
	How can you possibly dispute that?
	It has been the position of the administration that you would not, that you would deconflict.
	As soon as the Russians sent their planes and people in, back in last September...
	The position up until now has been nothing other than just this deconfliction exercise.
	Now you are considering, have proposed, or willing to consider Russian proposal.
	But that in itself is a shift.
	It is not consistent with your position.
	He was so disgusted he gave up on her.
	Just gave up.
	But luckily, some British chick jumps in.
	Just to be clear, is this proposal coming from the Secretary, or is it an interagency proposal?
	So, again, I'm not going to comment on specifics of any proposal.
	Would you say that the Secretary's trip is the full backing of the White House and of President Obama?
	You know, I'm not going to characterize that for the White House, but I would say that the Secretary is going to present and to have discussions about, You see, she messed it up there.
	Because she flubbed.
	The Secretary is going to present...
	I mean, have discussions.
	He's presenting a proposal, but apparently the White House has not signed off on it.
	...to present and to have discussions in Moscow that...
	Present the administration's views.
	I am not going to get ahead of those discussions right now.
	Because, I mean, it's usually when a Secretary of State goes with a proposal like this, it has the backing of the White House, but the White House has not specifically said that.
	Because I think the awkward thing is none of us are talking about any proposal right now.
	What we're talking about is there's going to be discussions that happen.
	So here's what she said.
	The awkward thing is that none of us are talking about a proposal right now.
	Why is that awkward?
	So she's...
	Well, they're not talking about a proposal and he's presenting, but it's not a proposal.
	But it's awkward.
	She's very troubled as not getting out of this easy.
	Right now, what we're talking about is there's going to be discussions that happen.
	They start tonight when the secretary meets with President Putin.
	They'll continue tomorrow.
	He meets with Foreign Minister Lavrov.
	Let's see where they go.
	Okay, so now we have to go over to the White House to finish up this confusion about this trip.
	We have the Vice President.
	Did they all travel on the same plane?
	Talk about a national security disaster.
	Did they all fly separately?
	I mean, that's pretty big to have the Secretary of State and the Vice President and the largest neocon shill in the universe, Noodleman.
	And Josh Ernst was asked this question in the White House briefing.
	There are reports about the U.S. offering Russia some sort of military deal to go after the Islamic State group and al-Qaeda in Syria.
	Is that something you can comment on, or is...
	At present, the United States is not conducting or coordinating military operations with Russia.
	I know there's some speculation that an agreement may be reached to do so, but it's not clear that that will happen.
	Since that time, we have seen the security situation and stability erode, and that has dealt a setback to efforts to reach a political agreement.
	As it relates to our Military coordination.
	We've always made clear that we would welcome a contribution, a military contribution from Russia, as long as they were focused on ISIL and al-Qaeda's presence in Syria.
	Unfortunately, we've seen them devote too much of their attention to using their military might to prop up the Assad regime.
	So the situation that we find ourselves in now is Russia is at a crossroads.
	Russia has to decide for themselves if they're prepared to take the kinds of actions that we've been hoping they would take for quite some time now.
	And the consequences for Russia are quite grave.
	So we have Josh Earnest presenting the case that we're going over with some kind of fait accompli, which makes zero sense to go over and say, hey, shape up.
	We're here in your office.
	Shape up or, you know, there's going to be trouble.
	Makes no sense.
	No, we wouldn't do that.
	Now, you might have heard Ernest's...
	Not with that group.
	No.
	You might have heard Ernest's Cadence, and that is because I chop out...
	I usually have to chop out all the silences that Kerry and Ernest and, of course, the president, because it just takes too long.
	We don't have enough hours in the day.
	But in this case, I want to play you a bit of what he just said, unedited, And if you have time, and the video's in the show notes, if you have time to go take a look at it, we know he has these displays on his lectern.
	There's two iPad-sized displays.
	And while he's answering the question, and you're going to hear it in real time now, he is looking down, and then will look up and pretty much recite the line he just memorized.
	And it's really evident in this piece of audio.
	We've always made clear that we would welcome a contribution, a military contribution from Russia, as long as they were focused on ISIL and al-Qaeda's presence in Syria.
	You can just hear someone typing.
	Holy mackerel, that's a great clip of the day.
	Gets better, gets better.
	Unfortunately, we've seen them devote too much of their attention to using their military might to prop up the Assad regime.
	So the situation that we find ourselves in now is Russia is at a crossroads.
	Russia has to decide for themselves if they're prepared to take the kinds of actions that we've been hoping they would take for quite some time now.
	And the consequences for Russia are quite great.
	I think you made the point.
	So he's reading this as it's being typed up.
	As it's being typed up, yes.
	And why don't they...
	Well, first of all, I'm going to take it first of all.
	I'm going to take it first of all.
	I'm going to take it.
	Clip of the day.
	I'm taking it.
	You said it, I'm taking it.
	Clip of the day.
	But it seems to me that this guy was...
	They've got to find a different kind of spokesman.
	The guys that can handle the IFB. Yeah, which he did.
	He wasn't wearing.
	There was no IFB. No, they never wear an IFB. But they should have the IFB and then they can take it in real time.
	Because I've seen guys do it.
	I can almost do it.
	I can do it.
	Where the guy talks to you and you talk exactly what he's saying in real time so you don't have these long pauses.
	That was ridiculous.
	It was pretty obvious.
	And you can see him looking down and just memorizing.
	And then it just says a line, which is like, what's the point?
	Why don't you just give us the iPad?
	We can read it for ourselves.
	Just put it on the screens behind him.
	Just type it up there.
	Okay, so as I make my case here.
	Well, you made what case?
	As I'm going to make my case here, I'm going to make it now.
	I'm waiting.
	Yeah, just chill.
	Don't be so dank.
	It's not that what you got hasn't been entertaining.
	Okay, thank you.
	I'm just waiting for the connection.
	That's what I'm here for.
	So we know that Syria can be pretty much resolved if the United States and Russia make a deal about what is going to happen.
	This was always intended to be a Libya operation.
	We're in.
	We're out.
	We kill the fucker.
	We get rid of him.
	He runs away.
	whatever the people do to them is not our problem.
	We're good to go.
	We can continue our pipeline with our friends in Qatar, and it can go right up through Syria.
	Of course, that is the main issue with Syria because we had on the other side, we have Assad with his supplier and his friends, the Russians, saying, no, no, no, we want to have a pipeline from Iran through Iraq and then into our port, and then we can send all kinds of groovy stuff to Europe and around the world.
	And this is what the fundamental issue has always been.
	Now, if we can fish or cut bait, and we've got to stop this because it's out of control, Everyone knows that this is just going nowhere.
	This is not what it was supposed to be like.
	We can cut a deal with Putin, and we'll give him something in Ukraine.
	And these people showing up when this happens, to me, says, particularly when you take this into account, this is the CNN backgrounder of Fethullah Gulen...
	The Turkish president, Erdogan, wants the man he says he believes is responsible.
	This is who that is.
	A popular cleric who leads a religious movement from his place of self-exile.
	You see him right there on your screen.
	The problem for Turkey is that place is the United States.
	Fethullah Gulen lives in Pennsylvania, of all places.
	He lives in the Poconos.
	Turkish President Erdogan calling on President Obama to arrest and extradite him and hand him over.
	Keep in mind, many American families are very close to the unrest this weekend.
	Turkey is a NATO ally.
	Hundreds of U.S. service members and their families are stationed in Turkey.
	And right now, the air bases are secure.
	Everyone is reported safe.
	And all military operations, though, in and out of those air bases are on hold.
	Okay, so Fethullah Gulen is the bad guy, and of course, we know historically that the Gulenists and the Hizmet movement has been the problem for Erdogan inside Turkey because the Gulenists were in the legislature, they're in the military, they're in the police force, and he has been systematically getting rid of them.
	We, of course, also know that Gulen is a CIA operative.
	He was put there by the CIA. The CIA and the State Department arranged his paperwork.
	And CNN, of course, in all their wisdom, categorized him as a very popular, friendly guy.
	And they show a video of him just smiling, kind of an old guy.
	Don't mention that he controls $25 billion, has madrasas and charter schools, and is indoctrinating the entire world with his version of Islam.
	And it makes nothing but sense that we sit with Putin and say, listen, Vlad.
	Actually, it's Vol.
	What we're going to do here is we're going to show you what we can do with Turkey.
	And we're going to take this opportunity to push Erdogan into a corner because we don't like the fact that he offered our base to you.
	We don't like that because we have 40 nukes on that base.
	You'll see that in my notes page that I put up.
	You can see pictures of the nuclear weapons.
	We control Turkey.
	And we're going to make a deal with you.
	And of course, I don't know exactly what the deal is.
	And we're putting Erdogan on notice.
	This is the first shoe.
	We can go in and we can take over this whole place in a heartbeat.
	We're pulling back.
	We're not going to make it a big deal.
	We're not killing him.
	We're not arresting him.
	But this is the warning shot.
	Because it is Erdogan who is screwing everything up.
	He is the one that is, on his own initiative, is funding terrorist groups, killing Kurds.
	In Syria and in Iraq, his son is the one taking the oil.
	The guy's a bad actor.
	He's a super bad actor.
	And now we have, I think we have cut a deal with Putin, and I believe there will be a follow-on coup, and it will be a real one, when perhaps Gulen, we don't know, someone is going, the way the US media is talking about him, he'd be great, he would say everything, he's friendly, he's popular.
	That, I think, is what happened here.
	Of course, Erdogan says, oh, well, look.
	Look what I did.
	Now I have more power.
	Well, that would be the opposite of what we really want.
	We want to show this guy as a dick.
	And we're going to take him out and it will be a full-on...
	The other shoe will drop.
	That is the only way I see this.
	Because...
	If we really wanted to do it, we could do it.
	Look at how our bases are.
	We could do this in a heartbeat.
	It would be not a problem at all.
	If we didn't have the meeting in Moscow, I would think differently.
	But this is just not a coincidence that this happens at this very moment.
	I like the thesis.
	It makes more sense than Erdogan trying to put on a show, which is what the other thesis would be.
	Quite a show.
	There's no thesis that I know of that actually this was an actual coup.
	Did you see the pictures of Parliament?
	No, I did not.
	If you scroll down, first you'll see some of the propaganda where television was showing Morocco, not Turkey, with people on the street.
	I have the list of all the so-called bad actors there.
	You have the base.
	Then you have Erdogan on CNN Turk.
	I'm saying Gulen is the guy.
	Then you have pictures of him at the hotel.
	Then if you...
	Let me see.
	It's in between...
	Where is it?
	These soldiers?
	These soldiers by the blue water?
	Go up.
	Go up.
	So above the air force base you see bombed parliament pics.
	It's an expandable node.
	I don't see this.
	Okay, do you see all the so-called...
	Let's start with the coup in Turkey cartoon.
	Okay.
	Underneath that, you have Istanbul propaganda photo.
	Everyone knows that one.
	Okay.
	And then underneath that, bombed parliament pics.
	Click on that.
	Oh, okay.
	Click on that.
	Okay.
	This shows you...
	This was not...
	And there's video.
	They were in parliament when the first strike hit.
	This is some real damage.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That doesn't confirm anything to me.
	No, it doesn't.
	But if you're putting on a show, there's a number of things you could do.
	I can't buy the show bit because the show was shitty for him.
	It wasn't a great show.
	Well, I'll say this, that what bothers me most about the show theory, and I like the other theory a little better because I like the fact that Noodleman had visited Turkey and we've already seen the connection between anytime she shows up, and she was there within the last six months.
	Every time she shows up, all hell breaks loose in the place and that's where she went.
	Yeah.
	And what I really don't like about the Erdogan show is that too many people on social media picked up on it.
	And very quickly, and I think that that cartoon is where it started.
	That guy, he did all the Arab Spring cartoons.
	He's quick.
	He's known as the fastest cartoonist.
	Well, that means he's getting free.
	He's getting early.
	I mean, although we can see our artists that can do stuff within an hour of the show finishing.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	I mean, when the show finishes, there's art.
	Right.
	So this guy could do that, but...
	And they do it under a value-for-value proposition.
	What's this guy's value?
	He's just putting it on WordPress blogs.
	Where is he getting his money from to do all this great stuff?
	I mean, I haven't looked that deeply into him.
	I think we need to now.
	I looked at his wiki page.
	That was just the first thing that struck me.
	He's like, Rio.
	Yeah.
	This is propaganda.
	And I'm, you know...
	I'm not going to argue that it's not a...
	Now listen to Wesley Clark saying, well, obviously this is a failed coup.
	This is no good because we didn't do this, this, and this, and this.
	Correct.
	But I don't think it was meant to be a full-on coup.
	We now need to see what comes back, how the State Department and White House are going to justify this meeting, how they're going to explain it, what the deal was, and how we move forward.
	But I think this...
	I'm telling you, my feeling is this was the first shoe.
	The second shoe is still to drop.
	It would be a dynamite kicker bonus if somehow Gülen got to run Turkey.
	I don't think that's going to happen.
	But was he responsible for a lot of this?
	Yeah, he just puts out one bat signal and all his people do whatever they want.
	The Turkish military who are flying F-16s, who are flying Cobras...
	Who have full-on support from US military personnel to maintain these aircraft.
	They don't take a crap without talking to the US military.
	We've carefully, carefully put that together over decades.
	And we're the coup people!
	Come on!
	This is what we do.
	This is what we do.
	Regime change is us.
	We can't do it in Syria because Russia is not going to allow it.
	But Russia will certainly allow us to do that in Turkey.
	Okay, Cry, tell me what you think then.
	I'm just talking to the chat room.
	Alright.
	I think we can move on with that as our base.
	Let me just see.
	And it is the Russians.
	Can't do anything without the Russians.
	Let me just see if I had anything else here in my notes, because I took a lot of notes.
	Oh, so the way I left it with the intelligence network, it was blowing up my phone.
	Was that it appears that the encirclic Air Force Base is under a form of siege.
	People cannot leave as far as no flights are landing or taking off.
	And it appears that Erdogan is trying to use some blackmail or hostage-type situation to say, you have to deliver Gülen to me.
	I want him extradited, which he asked for three days before this failed coup took place.
	Well, he's asking for it constantly.
	But he filed paperwork.
	And the Air Force Base, they've been flipping off the power, which doesn't affect us that much.
	But based on all this, here's the one message I have.
	The 82nd Airborne has an unscheduled emergency deployment readiness exercise coming this week, but...
	They have another term.
	I'm just looking for the military terms.
	They have another team on standby.
	We're kind of sitting around waiting for something to happen, to do something if necessary.
	We have...
	We're on high alert preparedness.
	But TSK, the Turkish military, is flying over the base, you know, at...
	Sonic boom speed.
	Would that indicate that Turkish intelligence is picked up on this thesis of yours?
	I would say so, yes.
	Yeah, I would say so.
	Just a side interesting note that almost to the day, the plot to kill Hitler took place, which resulted in my favorite, Operation Valkyrie, which of course is our pre-stream tune.
	Just one of those things elites like to do, you know, put it into, you know, it was very similar.
	They tried to blow up Hitler.
	It didn't work.
	And then Hitler implemented the Valkyrie operation and, you know, nothing good came of it.
	Well, nothing good came of any of that.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I'll let you slide on this.
	It's much better than...
	Yeah, I'm letting you slide.
	You can have the thesis.
	In other words, I'm not going to argue against it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Anything else on these two?
	I think that's a ghoul and out.
	With that, I'd like to thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Coup d'etat Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam McCurry.
	In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to our artists in particular, I'd like to say...
	I love that.
	I love your little accompaniment.
	I'd like to say...
	In the morning to...
	Let's see.
	It was...
	Who was our artist for this show?
	Mark G., who brought us the artwork for CanMed.
	That was episode 842.
	It was fun.
	Little name badge.
	Hello, my name is Douchebag.
	It was just a fun little piece of art.
	Looked nice.
	Yeah, nothing else really stuck.
	No.
	It was one of those things where you go, what are we going to do?
	Well, this is pretty.
	Let's use this.
	Well, we appreciate all the work that our artists do, and you can see all of the submissions at noagendaartgenerator.com, and thank you so much, Mark G., for putting that together.
	Also, in the warning to you chat room, noagendastream.com, good to see everybody there with their own opinions, which usually is false flag!
	We want to thank a few people.
	Let's start with our executive producers.
	We've got three of them today, including a big Instanite.
	Yeah.
	Scott Lonergan in North Pole, Alaska.
	$100,000.
	I noticed this last couple of weeks have been disgraceful on the value for value and decided to take this time to lessen my boner status and send in an Instanite donation.
	I say lessen because I've been listening since...
	About show 120.
	Wow.
	And this is my first donation.
	Wow.
	Fantastic.
	Now I'm a knight.
	I figure an 1111 subscription will put me on my path to baronship.
	Did you say $100,000?
	No, I said $1,000.
	Did I say $100?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I don't think so.
	Well, I said $1,000.
	I wish it was $100,000.
	That would be great.
	Yeah.
	It took you a long time to hear that.
	I find that peculiar.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, he says, I want to thank you both for all you do and pledge to do better on my part for the Value for Value model.
	I would like to be known as Sir Scott First Knight of the North Pole.
	Nice.
	As I live in North Pole, Alaska, about two blocks from Santa's house.
	Nice.
	Keep up the good work and congrats on the award.
	It's long overdue.
	This guy needs to be a ham radio operator.
	If he's up there, absolutely.
	Yeah, that'd be great.
	I'm going to...
	Now, he has a request for the full Gitmo Nation anthem at the end of the show.
	Yeah.
	We'll do that.
	I'm going to give him a dedouching and a well-deserved karma.
	We've really appreciated this, Scott.
	You've been dedouched.
	Looking forward to your ceremony later in today's program.
	You've got karma.
	Another social executive producer of $333.33 is Anthony Farmer from Lost Wages, Nevada.
	$333.33.
	2016 has been rough for my family and has been a rock as it has been for rock and roll stars.
	But this should get me back.
	What does that mean?
	I'm not sure.
	A bunch of guys dead?
	Let me see what he says.
	Yeah, we lost Prince.
	We lost a lot of people.
	What are you talking about?
	We.
	We, the Americans.
	We should get me back on the great karma zone and over halfway to knighthood.
	Persistence.
	My one producer note, more dismantling of the white privilege and penis privilege religions.
	Those people are despicable, and if they're brainwashing our kids, they need to be exposed slash stopped.
	Jingle request, mac and cheese for now, job karma for the future.
	All right.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Alright, thank you.
	And now we have Sir Cravato of Zabok, Croatia.
	Excuse me, $333 even.
	And he has a note.
	Dear, and it's handwritten in longhand, so I'm going to go through this.
	Go for it.
	Dear Guardians of Reality, I must apologize, and it has a little bit of that French style, which makes it difficult to read.
	I must apologize for it has been a while since my last donation.
	After a gig in Suriname last winter, I ended up in western Quebec.
	Only to find myself at the corner of Texas and Arkansas at the moment.
	Now he's in Texarkana.
	You can say I've been living in the exile for the last eight months.
	Please dedouche me.
	This guy sounds like Yeah, going from...
	Where was he first before he went to...
	He was in Croatia, then he went to Suriname, then he went to Quebec, and now he's in Texarkana, which I don't know what's going on there.
	We need to follow him.
	He says, after numerous failed attempts to end...
	I'll send you money.
	The Nazis of PayPal could not understand my going from a Croatian credit card to a Scandinavian debit card.
	When I saw the cartoon above, and he's got a cartoon copied on the sheet above, I immediately thought of you two.
	It's about people abandoning the EU. It put a smile on my face.
	I hope it puts one on yours.
	Keep up the good work and long live the BPITU. Yours truly, Sir Crovados of Zabok, Croatia.
	No request will give him a karma, of course.
	Absolutely.
	It is...
	You've got karma.
	And he sealed his note with our signet ring.
	Ah.
	So that was cool.
	Beautiful.
	Sir Blake, meanwhile, dropped his associate executive producer.
	Sir Blake, night of procrastination from Los Angeles, California, $227.50.
	It's been way too long, he writes, since my last donation.
	Please de-douche me.
	Hold on.
	You've been de-douched.
	There you go.
	I humbly put forth the amount of 227.50 as the half-ass donation, like boob, who is 808.
	In 1337 speak.
	Leet speak.
	Leet.
	Yeah, leet.
	Yeah, leet speak.
	Ass is 455.
	I can't quite afford that, so here's half of 455 or half ass.
	I like it.
	Let's keep up the great analysis.
	That's funny.
	Well, let's see if anybody bites on that and likes it.
	Please give me all the slaves out there some mac and cheese.
	Another mac and cheese.
	This is random numbers again.
	No reason out of the blue for people requesting mac and cheese karma.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	You've got karma.
	Before you move on, since we're always looking for signs of the depression, and of course the mac and cheese is your original, based on the grilled cheese depression food.
	Depression food.
	Yes, we've been tracking mac and cheese as depression food.
	It started off as kind of a gourmet thing, and then it just, you know, it's like, oh, we can have gourmet mac and cheese, and now it's just mac and cheese.
	Kraft is...
	Coming up with mac and cheese days and they're selling their cheap cheddar and macaroni melted together crap for like 50 cents.
	I know, some of these.
	I've tweeted photos of the mac and cheese dinners you can buy at Grocery Outlet, 39 cents.
	Well, I have a clip here of possibly the next version of depression food, which as always starts off as something cool and hip.
	And I wanted to play a clip.
	It's one of the simplest foods around.
	Everyone's had it.
	Anyone with a little bread, butter, and jam can make it.
	In San Francisco, artisanal shops have turned it into the trend of the moment.
	I never thought I'd look to a crusty piece of warm bread to illustrate greater truths, but it seems that's just what diners in the city are doing.
	From what I know about it, it was first presented at a cafe, an artisan cafe on Divisagero.
	The mill, at least that's where it got its reputation.
	I brought a few loaves of bread that I baked at Mission Pie and my toaster from home and started making toaster people and people really loved it.
	It's a comfort food, it tastes good and it's...
	Quick to prepare and simple.
	We wanted to create really good toast.
	We've been promising it, but it took us a while to kind of reformulate it.
	We didn't want to do an ordinary toast.
	There was a line that snaked out the door, and the toasters were filled with toasting slices of bread.
	And I was just like, holy shit, what have I gotten myself into?
	There you go, John.
	The new slave depression food is toast.
	Holy crap!
	You gotta give yourself a borderline clip of the day.
	Toast!
	Toast!
	I missed the boat on this.
	This is absolutely idiotic.
	What about bread and water?
	Let's have a restaurant with bread and water.
	While you're chained to your seat.
	The gruel restaurant.
	With a ball.
	You slaves can eat toast warmed over gluten.
	And the guy's falling all over himself.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's selling the toast currently for $4 a slice, so no wonder he's falling all over.
	Holy crap.
	But this is how mac and cheese started.
	It was like $8.
	Now restaurants have it for $15, $20 for all their...
	But the bottom line is, it's like fashion.
	You have your haute couture, you're ready to wear, then you have your lines, etc.
	And all the way down at the bottom, you've got the Old Navy.
	And it's based on the same stylings as what's on the runway, but it's slave stuff.
	It's slave threads.
	Toast!
	Toast, John!
	Toast!
	Yeah, toast.
	That's pretty pathetic.
	Alright.
	Good catch.
	Onward.
	Alright, serendipity in Coimbra.
	There's probably a better pronunciation.
	I'm sure it's in Portugal.
	20160.
	This is 201.6 donation to hear John saying Força Portugal on the air.
	Okay, you have to say it like you really mean it, though.
	Oh, yeah.
	Força Portugal!
	Força Portugal!
	Drop the mic, grab the popcorn.
	Even though he doesn't care about soccer at all, we are the European champions, followed by little girl Ye.
	For the audience to have your vacations in Portugal, we need the money.
	Yay!
	They do need the money.
	And it's the best place to go.
	Go to Portugal and have a great time.
	And drugs are legal.
	Yay!
	Prostitution legal.
	Yay!
	Great place to be.
	Thank you for the effort you guys have put into the last few shows.
	They've been sensational.
	Douchebag, call out to Philippe A. Douchebag!
	And karma for everyone.
	All right.
	You've got karma.
	Yay!
	And finally, in Wooddale, Illinois, 200 bucks from Sir Jojo, the network chimp.
	What?
	Guys, Sir Jojo, the network chimp here, I'm working my way towards something, something wonderful.
	All he has to say is very cryptic.
	Nice.
	I like it.
	Cryptic, cryptic, cryptic.
	And that concludes our group of well-wishers and executive and associate executive producers for show 843.
	Or 4-4.
	Yes, and thank you.
	These credits are real.
	You can use them anywhere credits are accepted.
	And then IMDB works.
	Your LinkedIn page seems to get you a lot of attention.
	Of course, we'll be thanking everyone else later on in our full-on segment above $50 or more.
	And another show coming up on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. So whatever you're doing, you probably should be out there propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	I was thinking about all of this that's going on, that's happening, and I just wanted to share a thought.
	As you know, I'm a big fan of Industrial Society and its Future, which is a manuscript by Mr.
	Theodore Kaczynski.
	Now, just in reflection of these recent events, the past week, and I'm going to actually do two weeks, Dallas, I now believe that this is exactly what Ted was trying to warn us about in his manuscript.
	If you think about it, the internet is pretty much at the nexus of all the world's shit right now.
	Because people are able to understand that governments are covering up poverty and joblessness with misleading data.
	We have jobs themselves being replaced by better tools with technology.
	Entire industries are being hijacked so workers can continue to...
	Robots.
	Yeah, well no, hijacked...
	By new owners, so these people who work in industries can continue to eat, like the music business, the news business.
	These are all hijacked industries because the distribution model is broken.
	terrorist acts always include a huge social media element.
	And of course, this started back in the Iraq war when someone, hey, I'm going to go blow something up, run back home, and then look on CNN via satellite and see how it did.
	So now you can actually watch, you can stream yourself live.
	It's even better.
	All of this has been enhanced with live streaming online video.
	So I conclude that the network itself is causing our problems because we, or most humans, are not equipped to deal with this information, not the speed of it, not the quantity or the signal to noise ratio.
	Now, of course, a lot of people are able to cope.
	I think the No Agenda producers are in that group.
	Yeah, I think so.
	So, just be aware that...
	That this is happening, and the internet is not our friend.
	And I think a lot of people wind up very hurt because of it, and just because they're not prepared to deal with what is happening.
	Well, that brings us to Pokemon!
	Woohoo!
	Yes?
	So I'm getting...
	I went to the post office to pick up the mail from the well-wishers.
	People who send in checks to Bucks339, El Cerrito, California, 94530.
	By the way, I forgot to round up my little spiel there with...
	We're all gonna die!
	That's what I missed, man.
	And, you know, I had a long conversation with Mimi because, you know, she's resisting getting the Pokemon thing because she has an addictive personality.
	Oh.
	And so everybody seems to have an addictive personality if you look at it.
	So I go to get some gas at this little bitty gas station.
	This woman parks in the next pump over.
	And so she's pumping her gas.
	She's done.
	She gets a receipt and she's just about to get in the car.
	She's looking at her phone and she runs off.
	She just runs out of the gas station.
	She runs up down the street.
	And she stops over by a...
	I already get it.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, you know what happened.
	I was watching her.
	And so she runs, she just leaves her car with the door open, runs down the street as fast as she can, goes up the street to a running path, which is underneath the BART station in El Cerrito.
	And she stops and she's got her phone in her hand and she's doing something with the phone.
	And then she casually walks back to her car.
	Mm-hmm.
	So that, she ran after a Pokemon of some sort.
	Yeah.
	Now, there is a thing on the internet right now showing literally thousands of people because there was some special...
	Time in Central Park.
	Yes, because there was some special monster, a Velocipede, or some very special monster that showed up in Central Park, and all these people rushed over to grab it.
	It's like watching an episode of The Walking Dead.
	It's unbelievable!
	So Mimi says that she's going to probably end up succumbing because Jay and JC, Buzzkill Jr., have both succumbed.
	I'm so sorry to hear this, John.
	I'm sorry about your family.
	They were really nice.
	And I said to her, I said, and I finally got a compliment.
	I said, I have no, zero desire to download or play this game.
	None.
	None.
	And I don't think Adam does either.
	And she says you're not an addictive personality.
	Well, that's not entirely true.
	Oh, you're playing it?
	No, I don't have an addictive personality because I can stop whatever the addiction is.
	I had it for a while with Second Life.
	That was going on for a little bit.
	Now she mentioned you were in second life.
	I lost respect for you for the day.
	It was research.
	So she sent me this article called Five Signs You Have an Addictive Personality.
	I'd like to read from it.
	And this is for everyone out there.
	Can I do the test?
	There's no test.
	It's just a list.
	And I just want to mention this because I said to her, it sounds like half the world must have an addictive personality.
	And this ties in nicely with your commentary about the internet screwing us up.
	Because everybody's playing this game.
	Well, not everybody.
	No, I'm not playing it.
	I'm not playing it.
	And you're not playing it.
	Absolutely not.
	Okay, here it is.
	This is according to Stephen Moss, an article published in Psychology Today.
	The question is hard to answer.
	Apparently, 10 to 15% of the population have an addictive personality.
	But if you read these features, I think it's worse now with the internet.
	One, inability to control impulse behavior.
	Absolutely.
	Your phone goes ding, it vibrates, you can't control it.
	Right.
	And there's a lot of people out there with impulse control problems, which is encouraged by the internet.
	That's why these groups form like perverts, and you can't not go to the thing.
	You can't go look at the photos.
	You can't not look at a photo.
	You can't not do something because of the impulse control.
	And this is very common today.
	Number two.
	Weak commitment.
	This is what I found interesting.
	Weak, and this I think probably applies to no agenda people because I think they don't have this problem.
	Weak commitment to personal goals and values.
	Those of you who identify with impulse behavior probably know that the logical follow-up is a trait that is a weak overall commitment to personal goals and values.
	This might apply to me a little bit because I've yet to clean up my office.
	That is my personal goal.
	And that is due to your addiction for archiving things.
	Well, there's that.
	That may account for it.
	Number three.
	This one, I think, is the internet.
	Constant stress and anxiety.
	Now, what's interesting here is if you look at...
	There's two forms of studies, and of course, you know, fuck science, but...
	One study says that the internet and the way we use it has increased people's anxiety level without them really knowing it to a much higher level because you can't stop the stream of shit that's coming in.
	What you saw on television was nothing.
	Everyone, I'm sure, has seen the video of Nice where you see the real bodies uncovered, mangled.
	That increases anxiety level.
	On the other hand, there's studies out there that say people have become desensitized.
	Now, it could be either one.
	It could be a combination, but multiple things could be happening.
	Yes, I agree.
	And television does it, too.
	And all this fear...
	In fact, there's a new...
	They're talking about the new studies that have shown.
	Actually, I'll play this clip later, but it shows that they're bringing him back to George Bush style of of getting people to vote for the Republicans, you know, scare them.
	Oh, of course.
	Number four, recurring themes of social alienation.
	Another major sign that you're fighting an addictive personality comes in the form of social alienation and loneliness.
	Now, this theme I've heard, oh, the kids at least are getting out.
	Well, that means they weren't getting out.
	They weren't getting out before.
	Now they're getting out.
	That means they were alienated and they were, you know, lonely.
	You hear about this, oh, it's a great dating app.
	It's all, you know, part of this, okay?
	I like that.
	And finally, the number five, the last one.
	This is the indictment as far as I'm concerned.
	Mood swings and negative self-worth.
	Which I would categorize with a term as ethnomasochism.
	Okay.
	Certainly for white people.
	Yeah, yeah, white self-loathing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, self-loathing.
	Ethnomasacism.
	Which is caused by everyone telling you that you're a white privilege.
	You're no good.
	Yeah, you're no good whitey.
	So the whole thing all adds up to a huge boom for this crummy game.
	What I found interesting about it is, as I look into Niantic a little bit more, the company that produced it, they also did the game Ingress.
	Do you remember this?
	No.
	I probably do, but I'm saying no because it doesn't come to mind quickly.
	Now, I have not played either, but from what I've read...
	It appears it's the same engine, only Ingress was, you played, the way I understand it, I've not played it.
	You played it with teams, it was augmented reality, and it was a couple years ago, and people were crazy about it, but it never really caught on fire the way Pokemon has, because it was, I guess, too complicated.
	Because really, and of course I've seen videos, I have not loaded this thing, will not load it, I don't want to play it.
	But Pokemon, it's pretty simple.
	You are in a zombified state.
	You just walk around like...
	It's like an Easter egg hunt.
	It's really an Easter egg hunt.
	That's what it is.
	It's not very complicated.
	No, it's not.
	Although there's all these advanced strategies.
	Well, I think they can bring back...
	No, no.
	Ingress was not very popular.
	Not when you compare...
	I was just responding.
	Not when you compare it to Pokemon.
	Ingress was very popular amongst Silicon Valley tech nerds, etc.
	Not with general population, who just are the people you see walking like zombies.
	But it's possible they could bring that back, and who knows where we go from there.
	This augmented reality is a hit.
	And sell stock in anyone in virtual reality.
	It's not going to be the big hit.
	We've seen this happen so many times, John.
	There's no question that this is a huge hit.
	It's bringing the servers down.
	Women are running away from their car.
	I could have stolen her car.
	It's unbelievable when I witnessed this.
	And she was like middle-aged.
	Yeah, it's a health crisis.
	It's a mental health crisis we are witnessing before our eyes.
	Yeah, and nobody sees it as such.
	They just laugh it off.
	You watch the news, guys.
	Oh, you're playing it yet?
	It's just like happy news.
	Yeah, it's great.
	It reminds me of one of the Star Trek Next Generation episodes where they all got addicted to some game.
	If somebody could get me the name of that episode, I'd appreciate it.
	Anyway, alright, that was my Pokemon.
	Yes, your experience with Pokemon, very good.
	Oh, but just, we're not doing tech news, but I have a question.
	Now, this is not for you, but I just have a question in general.
	I've noticed this a couple times.
	Well, two things.
	One, I keep noticing this flash bug that it keeps freezing up, and it looks like it's in the encoding.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I don't understand why, but it's odd, and it happens with YouTube videos all the time.
	That's still happening.
	Here's the thing that I noticed.
	It started happening two days ago, and I've seen this happen with some regularity, where, particularly on the iPhone, autocorrect is the number one way that, you know, this is kind of the genius of what the iPhone did.
	You remember the first conversations were, I don't want a virtual keyboard.
	That's horrible.
	I can't feel the keys.
	I want my BlackBerry.
	That was the big controversy.
	But what Apple was able to do, and I think Steve Jobs even categorized it, is like magic.
	When you're typing, it's going online, it is doing autocorrect in a number of ways.
	And I think what they're doing from time to time, whether it's for individuals, I don't think so, but more generally...
	They change the algorithm or something and you wind up with a day or two of all these crazy replacement words that show up that you normally have no problem with.
	And I think they're refreshing something or they change the algorithm and it screwed me up over the past 48 hours big time with just dumb mistakes with words that I've never used before being substituted for things that would be pretty obvious what I mean in a sentence structure.
	Huh.
	I'm interested if anyone else has felt that.
	Now, you don't use iOS, so you certainly don't.
	No, I use Android, and I don't even use the keypad.
	I tend to talk into it.
	Yeah.
	I do that too.
	If I have to use the keyboard, I have to do a lot of messaging, I do it on the computer using Google Voice.
	I don't even go to the phone.
	I don't use the phone at all.
	I just thought that was something I wanted to mention.
	Yeah, it's a pet peeve, it sounds like.
	It's happened so many times.
	Borderline pet peeve of the day.
	Borderline pet peeve of the day.
	Alright, so the last big news item that fit into this whole thing was the idiotic choice of Pence.
	Yes, I have some thoughts on that.
	Good, I have one clip, just so you know this, if you don't know this particular thing, which is that the...
	Let's see if I have it here.
	I'm looking for it.
	Is there anything on Pence?
	Yeah, I have a Pence fiasco.
	Yeah, this is a minor clip taken from, I think, Fox.
	It's the Pence fiasco.
	This is Megan with some guy who's one of their really good political analysts.
	And I thought this, I didn't know this because I wasn't paying that much attention.
	I didn't care about Pence, but this is interesting.
	What was up with the weird, I'm announcing him on Friday morning, wait, I'm not announcing him on Friday morning because we had a terror attack in Nice.
	Oh, but wait, I'm going to make other announcements, and then I'm going to announce it via Twitter, and there he is, and here's our logo.
	Yeah.
	Well, the logo was not exactly a smash hit, but the Trump campaign vehemently denied any wish on the part of the presidential nominee to ditch Pence at the last minute.
	But one could understand why he would have wanted to, given the fact that the leaks came out of Indianapolis and blew the story that Trump was getting ready for the big reveal, and there was a feeling that maybe Pence was trying to jam Trump.
	And prevent him from switching at the end.
	But the reports from other outlets were that Trump was looking even late into the night to try to find a way to ditch Pence.
	And then today, Pence is the guy, but he doesn't get the ceremony.
	And then tomorrow, they take it to Chris Christie's home state, I guess rub his nose in it, but take it to his home state to say Pence is the guy, announce it in New Jersey.
	Oh, wow.
	It's like an arranged marriage that it's getting off to a rocky start.
	Before you deconstruct that, this started, well, right after you announced and after, I guess, most mainstream in America lost interest in Nice and in Turkey.
	And I was listening to my favorite channel, Progressive 127, on Sirius Satellite to Michelangelo Signorelli.
	And it appears that the reporter from Slate started this, and he came on, I don't have a clip, but he came on the show and he said, well, you know, I have an off-the-wall theory, and that's that Trump really used, the asshole Trump used the terrorist attack to try and get rid of Pence.
	To do something different.
	And Michelangelo Signorelli, in the next segment, he was like, well, we all know what Trump did.
	He wanted to get out of the deal, and he was a horrible man.
	He used the terrorist attack to try and get out of the deal.
	This is an actual conspiracy theory from the left that is, I think, demonstrable to be as such.
	Now, I have thoughts about Pence.
	I'd love to hear yours.
	Well, I think he's just a classic douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Who, you know, he seems...
	There's good and bad.
	His positions on things are the worst.
	And he's got all these douchebag qualities.
	He seems like a really pleasant person, and people have reported that.
	He's really just a good guy to hang around with.
	He has a...
	He's good...
	Somebody was criticizing for this, but I think...
	And he was on Democracy Now!
	This analyst from Indiana.
	He says that once Pence became governor, he says he was much better as a congressman and much better working in Washington because when he became governor, he couldn't really – he'd decide on two talking points.
	And no matter how much you hounded him, he would never answer the question.
	He would just stick with the talking points.
	And I saw him do this a couple of times when – before he was chosen, they would hound him and it was CBS or Tom Yamas on ABC hounding him about, well, you said this and you said Trump was a douchebag.
	And the guy says, well, no.
	I said, well, I think he's a great guy and he's a good family man.
	He's a great guy, he's a good family man, I love the guy.
	He never could be budged.
	I think this maybe is his, if he has anything good going on from Trump's perspective, he's good at sticking to a point and shutting up to allow Trump to do his own thing.
	I don't think he's a great choice at all, and I think he's the kind of guy that you might want to see the Republicans shoot Trump so they can get this guy in as president.
	Well, you nailed it.
	Stop, stop.
	You nailed it.
	That is exactly the way I see it.
	I think this is a horrible choice.
	The reason, I believe, why he is the choice is mainly...
	Koch brothers!
	Koch brothers!
	You'll recall all the Koch brothers talk.
	This is the guy who has received a lot of money from the Koch brothers.
	This is the Koch brothers butt boy right here.
	This is him.
	And it is my belief that this is certainly a possible plan for That you're looking at the next president of the United States.
	I have a very bad feeling about this.
	A very bad feeling.
	That all you have to do, you take Trump out and here's your new president.
	I think Trump just appointed the next president.
	Well, that's a pretty grim view.
	It's very grim and I don't like saying it, but...
	Well, that's one of the reasons our listeners support it, so we can actually say stuff like this as theory and discuss it openly where no network could possibly discuss this.
	I want to remind people of that.
	Now, here's what I saw after the whole thing went down and Pence was kind of shoehorned into this deal.
	I think he'd be a good vice president from the perspective that he won't do anything.
	I mean, he won't do anything.
	He won't mess things up.
	He knows how to work with Congress, and he's rigid in his...
	With his talking points, he's not going to go off the reservation.
	Unlike Biden.
	So I think that's one positive thing.
	But when I saw the two of them, when they first got together and they're going to the Trump Tower, I saw Trump walking ahead of him like somebody with a very old wife.
	You know, men always walk ahead of their wives in a funny kind of a way that you see, there they are, the old married couple.
	Or the wife just doesn't want to walk.
	You're welcome!
	I'm looking too fast!
	Only if they're holding plastic bags and wearing comfortable shoes.
	Anyway, you have this situation, and Trump was, and I've seen Trump with other people that he's buddies with, and he's always hanging next to him, and he's always buddying, palling around with him, kind of, so they're together.
	No, no, no.
	This was like the two old, the old married couple with the husband way in front and Pence trying to keep up.
	I mean, all that was missing was yelling, hey, what?
	Or anything like that.
	So I'm thinking this is not...
	This is something's amiss with this.
	This is not right.
	I stand by my theory and I don't like it.
	Okay.
	So I was not a fan of this character.
	No.
	No, me neither for that very reason.
	I don't think it's going to make a difference in the election because I've been noticing some...
	No.
	But it would make a difference in the future.
	I do have...
	Just a follow-up on the whole Ginsburg thing.
	Well, it's not very often you hear a Supreme Court Justice apologize, but that appears to be what Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is doing.
	She released a statement this morning saying she regrets comments she made about Donald Trump in which she called him a faker.
	Well, Trump turned around and called those comments dumb and said Ginsburg should resign.
	This morning, Ginsburg said judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office.
	I haven't heard Trump say it.
	Maybe I just missed it.
	There was a lot going on.
	But doesn't this episode confirm that a judge can have a bias against him and therefore should not be...
	It should recuse themselves.
	And of course, now I'm talking about the Mexican judge.
	Isn't this proof?
	Isn't this proof that one of the highest judges in the land comes out with a huge bias?
	Yeah.
	Doesn't that prove what he was saying?
	That's probably why she's supposed to shut up.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think they have every right in the world to say whatever they want because there's no reason that they can't.
	But they don't for that reason.
	And I think that's, yeah, you've proven a point.
	You've proven Trump's point.
	He hasn't brought that up as far.
	I don't know if he's discovered it or thought about it.
	If anyone from the Trump campaign, I'm sure somebody in the campaign listens to this show, they should pass the word along and see what happens.
	Did you see the open letter from technology sector leaders?
	Did you see this?
	I remember seeing something about it.
	So it's signed by, I don't know, 150 different people.
	We are inventors, entrepreneurs, engineers, investors.
	Any names you can throw in there?
	Well, I'm going to get to that.
	Okay, good.
	We are inventors, entrepreneurs, engineers, investors, researchers, and business leaders working in the technology sector.
	We are proud that American innovation is the envy of the world, a source of widely shared prosperity and a hallmark of our global leadership.
	We believe in an inclusive country that fosters opportunity, creativity, and a level playing field.
	Donald Trump does not.
	He campaigns on anger, bigotry, fear of new ideas and new people, and a fundamental belief that America is weak and in decline.
	We have listened to Donald Trump over the past year and we have concluded Trump would be a disaster for innovation.
	His vision stands against the open exchange of ideas, free movement of people, and productive engagement with the outside world that is critical to our economy and that provide the foundation for innovation and growth.
	And they go on and on and on.
	At the end, here we go.
	Finally, we believe the government plays an important role in the technology economy by investing in infrastructure, education, and scientific research.
	Donald Trump articulates few policies beyond erratic and contradictory pronouncements.
	His reckless disregard for our legal and political institutions threatens to upend what attracts companies to start and scale in America.
	He risks distorting markets, reducing exports, and slowing job creation.
	We stand against Donald Trump's divisive candidacy and want a candidate who embraces the ideals that built America's technology industry.
	Freedom of expression, openness to newcomers, equality of opportunity, public investments in research and infrastructure, and respect for the rule of law.
	We embrace an optimistic vision for a more inclusive country where American innovation continues to fuel opportunity, prosperity, and leadership.
	And then they have 150 names, of which none work for Google.
	Former Google people who have little startups, of which none include the top VC firms.
	There's only one Kleiner Perkins person in here, who is low-level.
	There's no Sequoia Capital on here.
	This is not...
	It's a lot of names.
	I'm sure you could put Ev Williams in there, but he's not the technology leader.
	These guys are douchebags, and they're seeing the opportunity that is taking place before them, where technology, as we discussed earlier, is taking over the world.
	Silicon Valley is able to put thousands of people into Central Park.
	They do not want anyone rocking their boat.
	No wonder they don't want Trump.
	But notice that the big names are not there.
	The big names aren't stupid.
	Of course they're not stupid.
	Of course not.
	Ev Williams is on the list?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of douchebags.
	I forgot to play this on Thursday.
	This is kind of funny.
	Where Breonna Keillor is reporting on Hillary Clinton.
	And she goes off the reservation and, well...
	I'll do the sound effects in the control room.
	But largely Hillary Clinton's comments here today, John, were based around the recent violence that we have seen.
	The police involved shootings of black men in Minnesota, in Louisiana, and then the killing of white police officers by a black gunman in Dallas.
	That was really what she based her comments on around today.
	Hillary Clinton has some vulnerabilities herself, even if she calls it criminal justice reform because of her support in the 1990s for anti-crime legislation to ultimately help contribute to this era of mass incarceration that she now speaks out again.
	We just lost Breonna Keeler, who was in Springfield, Illinois, where Hillary Clinton just spoke.
	Yes, 10 points for you, my friend.
	Exactly what happened.
	I love that.
	Hey, why don't we take a break and then we come back to more Black Lives Matter stuff we need to talk about.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	And we do have a few people to thank for show 844.
	Is that right?
	Correct, 843 is the actual number.
	843 is what I'm on.
	Oh, okay.
	It says 843 on here, too.
	So it must be 843.
	Well, the next show, then, I thought...
	It will be 844, yeah.
	So it'd be two 4s and an 8, which 4 plus 4 is 8.
	It's more magic numbers.
	8 plus 8 is 16.
	6 plus...
	It's 7.
	Lucky 7.
	Woo-hoo!
	All right.
	That'd be great.
	Sean Fincham in Modesto, California, comes in with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	He's going to become a knight, so we might as well read his note for him.
	Given the amount of douchebaggery occurring in the world lately, I figure there's no better time right now to complete my knighthood and show my support for the best podcast.
	In the universe, you guys are truly the saviors of sanity.
	That's a good one.
	Saviors of sanity!
	Huh?
	I like it.
	It has a ring to it.
	I'll have more of a ring to it if I do it like this.
	Saviors of sanity!
	Ha!
	It's a ringtone for you.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	I like it.
	Yes, I like it.
	I would probably be walking face first into street signs looking for Pokemon if it wasn't for you guys.
	And I've seen it happen.
	I like the title of Sir Finch Nasty, Night of the Bachelor Butt.
	B-U-T-T-E. What is it?
	Bachelor Butte.
	Oh, I was going to say.
	Okay.
	Bachelor Butte.
	And some good old-fashioned hookers and blowers suffice in the round table.
	If you have the time, I'd love to hear a Marachi Obama.
	We can put that at the end if you want.
	By Boom Shakalaka.
	And thank you for all you do.
	Nighthood accounting is below.
	That was very good.
	Alright.
	Onward.
	Joachim.
	It's from Switzerland.
	Joachim.
	Oh, okay.
	Fornalaz.
	Wow, this guy's got a million ways to pronounce his name.
	1-2-3-4-5 from Zurich.
	By the way, Sean was 1-2-3-4-5 also.
	Nice, nice.
	And we need more Swiss listeners, so however you pronounce Fornalaz's name.
	Thanks.
	Garrett Ivester in Murrieta, California.
	111.11.
	You can read the notes and see if there's anything worth talking about.
	Eppostell in Dusseldorf, Deutschland.
	Eppostell, S-E-T-E-L, $100.
	Sir Don from Uwa Beach, Hawaii, $100.
	He actually sent a note in, a short note.
	It's worth reading.
	He says, here's a contribution to help the show.
	Since the political drama started, I listened half-heartedly.
	The level of BS is phenomenal.
	It's so bad the grains of truth are spoken is covered over with their crap.
	He's talking about the mainstream media.
	Thankfully, you listen much better than I do.
	Lately, things are heating up with the Brexit and Hillary evading prosecution.
	This is interesting.
	Thank you both for keeping us well-informed.
	And may you both be well now and in the future.
	I guess the note wasn't as exciting as I hoped.
	Chad Syker in Owensville, Missouri, $90.
	Max Myers in Henrico, Virginia, 8008.
	He got the boobs.
	Yeah, I saw that one.
	I liked it.
	It was a very good little Easter egg you put together for boobs.
	Yeah, boobs.
	What was the picture again?
	It was a picture of Clinton ogling some woman.
	Ogling.
	And I saw it like boobs, click.
	Oh yeah, there it is.
	It was a good one.
	It was a good one.
	John, I have some thoughts on some of these images I'm starting to see.
	Especially, I was really taken aback by that picture of Bill with Lewinsky and signed by Bill, Happy Christmas or whatever it was.
	I've never seen that picture before.
	Now, you said something in the newsletter.
	Maybe it was just a typo, because we always try to help each other out with proofreading, but you never send the captions.
	Let me just see where your newsletter was.
	You had something very...
	Okay, here it is.
	At the very bottom, it was...
	Here, of Clinton.
	An unusual establing shot?
	Did you mean establishing shot?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because I was like, this is a word I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I like a stabling.
	It's a new word.
	It's a new word.
	It's what it is.
	It's exactly what I meant.
	Well, I was unsure, so I wanted to make sure.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm glad you asked.
	Sorry.
	Sean, it was an unusual establishing shot.
	Yeah, that's how I read it, actually.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	And I'm looking at that picture.
	I'm looking at other pictures.
	I'm starting to see these things, and I want people to do the following for me.
	If you're listening, start to look for, because you're going to see this a lot, start to look for screwball websites that have screwball pictures of Hillary and send me the websites.
	Because I believe this is all part of a fantastic scheme today.
	By the Trump social media folks, just in the background, just to humiliate Hillary with some of these photos and things.
	I've never seen a lot of these before.
	I know that one of Bill's ogling the breasts of that woman did get around before, and there's been other examples.
	But stuff is starting to show up in strange places, and lots of it.
	Right.
	Believe me, I follow the images because I like to find them and Photoshop them and do stuff.
	And I'm looking at images I have never seen cropping up.
	You're an archivist of the...
	And I'm an archivist.
	I would notice this.
	Yes, it's what you do.
	All right, onward.
	Old cars, old Hillary.
	It's all stuff you collect.
	Old cars.
	John Opper in Osteen, Florida.
	Boobs, 8008.
	Joe Reynoso in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin.
	He yells, go podcasting.
	He also has boobs, so he also found the Easter egg.
	John said, the show is good medicine.
	I'm sure you two are helping listeners to live longer lives by removing the stress of fear from our minds.
	Yes, I think we are.
	Yeah, I hope so.
	Frank Pugh in Tallahassee, Florida, $75.
	Anonymous is $75 from Parts Unknown.
	That came in as a check.
	Gilles Cavour.
	Yes.
	Bonjour, Jean et Adam.
	Long time, no donation.
	Here's a donation for Le 14.
	Juliette, merci pour votre courage et passion.
	Gilles.
	Merci, Gilles.
	And he is in for $71.40, which is the...
	Bastille Day.
	Sir Sander from Zandam in Zandam, Netherlands, 7140.
	Baron of the Alps.
	Baron of the Alps.
	Gabriel Romero in Burbank, California, 7140.
	Sir John Horner in Water Valley, Mississippi.
	Do you have a note about this for a birthday?
	69, 69.
	Yeah, there's a birthday thing called, I think it's on the list.
	He has 6993, actually.
	6993, very strange.
	He never says it yet.
	So call out to his wife, Sarah.
	You have it on the list.
	Doesn't say why.
	Not much.
	All right.
	Sir Kevin Laughlin in Locust, North Carolina.
	McLaughlin.
	McLaughlin.
	Did I say Laughlin?
	I said Laughlin.
	It's okay.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina.
	How do you get a name of a town?
	Locust.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 69-33.
	Sir Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina, 64-32.
	Those are our regulars.
	James Moore in San Pablo, California, up the hill, 63-33.
	April Beerig in Amboy, Minnesota Nuts.
	And she has a little note.
	She says, thank you for all your courage.
	She always puts a little heart.
	That's why I have to read these notes.
	You two are much more than producers.
	You are both sanity police.
	Ooh, another good one.
	Sanity police.
	The sanity police.
	Open up.
	Sanity police.
	Open up.
	Open the door.
	Sanity police.
	Keep up the good fight, she says.
	Sanity.
	Sanity, please.
	I like it.
	Instead of tasers, we have, I don't know, like, toilet brush?
	Dwight Chick in Burlington, Ontario, 5678.
	Paul Levy in Grinnell, Iowa, 5560.
	Nick Johannes, 5333, somewhere in the United States.
	Anonymous Millennial, 5333.
	Nick Johannes said...
	The only reason I have any context on Gulen at all is no agenda.
	Thank you.
	Yes.
	And we have to thank Mark Hall.
	If you have not seen his documentary, Killing Ed, it's on DVD. I think it's going to be on streaming video soon.
	You must see this documentary.
	We'll fill in a lot of the blanks.
	Yes.
	outstanding product.
	Anonymous Millennial, Fort Walton Beach, Florida, 5333.
	Chris Sluwinski in Sherwood Park, Alberta, 50.
	These are all $50 donors.
	I'm going to list them as name and location.
	David Ritchie in Mentor, Ohio, 50.
	Ben Doran in Millersport, Ohio.
	Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia.
	John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	Chris Perry in Silver Springs, Maryland.
	Brian Noni in Smyrna, Georgia.
	Michael Dennis, Parts Unknown.
	Looking forward to show 843, he writes.
	Shane Rozdilski, we have a complicated knighting coming up because Shane apparently was never knighted and we've been calling him Sir.
	It was his brother.
	Oh.
	So he scolds us.
	Oh.
	So he's going to fix that today.
	He's going to become a knight, so it's not going to be a problem.
	And he's in Saskatoon.
	And he also says, I'd like you to send some marriage, Carmen, to my friends, Kurti and Kish, who were married yesterday, July 16th, and are the reason I am with my wonderful girlfriend, Sarah.
	Also, I'd like you to send out a birthday wish to Sir Chasen Rosdilsky, who turns 26 on July 22nd, and one for me on the 28th.
	Okay, finally, if possible, I have more Kale jingle.
	Thanks, and keep up the best podcast in the universe.
	Let me just give him the Kale thing, because, you know, this cock-up.
	Is that okay?
	No.
	So, have more kale.
	Have more kale.
	Have more kale. Have more kale.
	Have more kale.
	Have more kale.
	You will obey. You will obey. You will obey. You will obey. Have more kale. Have more kale. Have more kale. You will obey.
	You've got karma. - It is a favorite.
	Onward with the 50s.
	Paul Rudkin, parts unknown.
	Matthew Mongan in Baltimore, Maryland, 50.
	Joel Daroon, parts unknown.
	Ellen Murray in Missoula, Montana.
	Robert Gus Gusick, or Gus, it's got to be Gusick, in High Point, North Carolina.
	Simon Horne in Manly, Queensland.
	We should go to North Carolina.
	It'd be a great place to have a meetup.
	Gerald Wingenroth in Saugus.
	California.
	Sir Mark Tanner, of course, in Whittier, California, always helping us.
	Benjamin Wilson in Huddlestown, Pennsylvania.
	Tim Nonymous, 50 bucks.
	And finally, last but not least, Dame Melody Man in Ringgold, Louisiana, 50.
	I want to thank all these folks for helping us with show 843.
	You have a show coming up on Thursday.
	Yeah, we got a really big show coming up, and we appreciate everything that everyone does for us.
	I maybe got four hours of sleep last night.
	It wasn't much before then.
	Actually, I'm going to...
	I believe the rundown, because it's all the names have changed, etc., and I've taken out personally identifiable information.
	I have the full rundown of my chats with the intelligence guys who are part of our intelligence network.
	There's people to read through the timestamps, kind of fun to look at.
	And all of this is possible because of people supporting the program.
	Also under $50, of course, with the subscriptions.
	John's always asking you to think about getting a subscription.
	It's a good idea, frankly.
	And we appreciate all of the support that you give us, not just financially, but of course, with jingles, with stories, with clips.
	It's really fun to do this.
	I really love it.
	Thank you.
	And we need a little John's Karma for everybody.
	Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	All righty then.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so much.
	And here we go.
	We've got Sir John Horner saying happy birthday to Sarah Cozy, celebrating on the 22nd.
	An anonymous millennial, happy birthday to her brother's girlfriend.
	We have Shane Rosdilsky saying happy birthday to his brother, Sir Jason Rosdilsky, who turns 26 on July 22nd.
	And also himself, who is turning 28 tomorrow on the 18th of July.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Okay, three nights today.
	Good to see this happening for once.
	I brought my blade.
	Yeah, I got it.
	I've got it right here.
	Very good.
	Scott Lonergan, Sean Fincham, and Shane Rosdilsky, step on up to the podium here at the lectern, please.
	Thank you very much, gentlemen.
	All three of you have contributed to the best podcast in the university.
	The amount of $1,000 or more, that earns you a coveted spot at the round table of the Knights and the Dames.
	And I'm very proud to pronounce-icate thee, Sir Scott!
	First night of the Nerf Pole, Sean Fincham becomes Sir Finch Nasty, and then we of course say hello to Sir Shane Rodilski.
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	Also, noagendanation.com, you can find the full archive of all MP3s of the show.
	If you want to go back and listen to number one.
	When did you start doing the nighting with your left hand?
	Is your shoulder bad or something?
	Yeah, just a little.
	I had a massage in Vegas.
	I bet you did.
	I have a note from a guy in the army.
	Okay.
	It's kind of a long note, but I'm going to mention it.
	He's all anonymous.
	He wouldn't put his name anywhere.
	It came in unwritten.
	I'm a fellow knight, but for this contribution, I chose to remain anonymous.
	I'm also a member of the Armed Forces.
	I thought I'd share an excerpt from a recent Alaract.
	Like a regulation.
	But this is A-L-A-R-A-C-T. All Army something or other notices.
	Just notices you're supposed to follow.
	You can look it up.
	A-L-A-R-A-C-T. See what it means.
	It came within my unit.
	New rules over social media.
	New rules.
	New rules.
	Previously noted active duty members and further restricted civilian employees are prohibited from participating in partisan political activity.
	Therefore, while these employees may follow or friend or like a political party or candidate running for political office, they will not post links to share or retweet comments or tweets from Facebook pages of a political party or candidate running for partisan office such as an activity is such activities deemed to constitute a participation in political activities.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	He goes on to say, this is interesting.
	He says, members of the Army, now our contact is writing.
	Members of the Army should be aware that we cannot show up to political events in uniform or identify ourselves as such, but this took it to a new level, he says.
	I thought the timing of this was very coincidental with President's endorsement of Hillary...
	Yeah, Obama's endorsement of Hillary, among other things, and I believe the true purpose of this is to silence members of the military.
	Anecdotal for sure, but I don't know a single service member who likes Hillary.
	I'm not saying they're rooting for Trump either, but many, if not all, were very furious in his platoon, I guess, with the FBI's results.
	Many of the soldiers were joking that we shouldn't have to do any more OPSEC courses after the news broke.
	Yeah.
	And, of course, these rules expire at inauguration, which means we aren't supposed to say anything negative about whomever does become president, for that is disrespecting the chain of command.
	If nothing else, I thought you'd like to hear what the retweet is now officially part of military lexicon.
	Wow.
	The retweet.
	So, shut up.
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up!
	Shut up.
	I got a lot of feedback on the Harvard study and the way the MSNBC crew responded to it.
	They said, hey, we need a qualitative analysis.
	And you and I struggled a little bit about that.
	First, the study was...
	Reiterated on CNN the other day.
	But it turns out, at least according to a new Harvard study, that scenes like these are not the norm.
	The study looked at more than 1,000 shootings in 10 major police departments in Texas, Florida, and California.
	Plus, stop-and-frisk policing in New York City.
	When it comes to more extreme force, officer-involved shootings, the study found no racial difference at all.
	In fact, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked if the suspects were white, weakening the argument for racial bias in the use of lethal force.
	Nineteen-year-old Zachary Hammond, who was white, was shot to death by police in South Carolina.
	Stop, stop, stop!
	I want you to get up and out!
	As he drove away from a drug sting.
	John Gere, who was also white, was gunned down by police standing in the doorway of his Virginia home.
	In Houston, the study found that in cases where lethal force might be justified, officers were about 24% less likely to shoot a black suspect.
	Okay, so that is the report.
	And the pushback that came mainly from MSNBC was, well, we need to see a qualitative analysis.
	And a lot of people sent very similar responses about surveys, about analysis and reports and studies, and all of them have standing in the academic field.
	So here's one.
	In the example discussed on the show, Dr.
	Frey used quantitative data numbers to show that blacks were less likely to be shot, but were more likely to experience other forms of violence.
	If we were to do a qualitative analysis on the same subject, we might tell a descriptive story of a few individuals that experience police violence.
	As you might notice, qualitative analysis is often what journalists do.
	They focus on an individual story while ignoring larger quantitative trends.
	The reason why I decided to write is because John's explanation prevented you from drawing the obvious conclusion that the reporter in your clip is an idiot.
	Well, I think we both knew that, John.
	It is pointless to suggest the use of qualitative data to refute the significance of quantitative data analysis.
	Assuming the statistics are done properly, which of course is a huge caveat, there's nothing to refute.
	You could question methodology, like sampling method, chosen statistics, etc., but performing a qualitative analysis will tell you absolutely nothing.
	Well, if you want to do that, then there's only one guy who will do that kind of stuff in media today, and he is a friend of the show.
	His name is...
	...Thom Hartman.
	Are you ready?
	I'm always ready.
	This was seven minutes, but I just took the best.
	Joining us.
	So you write that this report actually provides, and quoting you, further evidence of anti-black bias and casual day-to-day brutality by the country's cops.
	What are you seeing here that the right wing and others are missing?
	So what his guest is about to say is the report actually proves a lot more bias, racial bias.
	You have my attention, Thom.
	Well, I mean, where the right-wing hate mongers and hate media are dancing on the graves of black folks killed by the police.
	Gotta love that.
	Is that what they do?
	They dance on the graves?
	They dance on the graves.
	Yeah, they dance on the graves.
	What are you seeing here that the right-wing and others are missing?
	Well, I mean, where the right-wing hate mongers and hate media are dancing on the graves of black folks killed by the police, I don't think they actually read the article.
	Because the article also includes damning and devastating information that should be familiar to any person of color in this country that police officers are significantly more likely to beat upon, throw on the ground, mace, and otherwise assault black folks, all other variables being controlled for.
	Notice the use of the word folks, who would be dummies.
	And even the researcher himself is a starred researcher and economist, one of the youngest economists at Harvard, winner of tons of awards, even said, yes, the findings are surprising, but in social science, the work is iterative, meaning other folks have to go and follow it up, and it has to be reconciled with all the other data, plus our common sense.
	Oh, oh, oh!
	We need to just throw in common sense, John.
	That's what we need to do.
	The survey is wrong because we didn't put any common sense into it.
	Huh.
	And it has to be reconciled with all the other data, plus our common sense, plus the videos.
	Videos?
	Well, this is the problem.
	We discussed this.
	It's the focus of the videos.
	You don't see the white people being killed by the cops.
	You only see the black people.
	So he is actually saying, well, you need to take the videos into account.
	You need to take all these other things into account.
	Plus the videos that show us that police officers are much more likely to use lethal force against African Americans and other people of color.
	It occurred to me that, in fact we did an op-ed about this, that he looked at ten fairly large cities and when you look at where some of the most egregious stuff has happened recently, it's been in small towns, Ferguson, Missouri, it's been in suburbs, it's been in smaller police departments.
	Smaller police departments that might not have the budget for good training or high standards or hiring better police officers, something like that.
	Do you think that that, you know, is this an example?
	Yeah, it's dumb Barney Fife Hicks, Wyatt Hicks who out there in small towns.
	Matt Rouge, he's calling a small town.
	Baltimore, I'm not sure.
	Yes, small towns, small towns.
	Oh.
	As a reminder, if you recall that the report of the Dallas shooter that he wrote the letters RB in his blood on the wall?
	Yeah, which I never believed.
	What if it was BR? As in Baton Rouge.
	Example of garbage in, garbage out?
	Well, I mean, the other angle we have to pursue here is that the statistics we have about police violence and murder are reported by the police.
	They're notoriously unreliable.
	And the other question here is, what is selection bias?
	And again, sort of thinking about who would actually submit the data?
	So if you're a police department that knows you have rampant problems with police abuse, are you actually going to respond to somebody requesting your data?
	So this gets back to having public accountability for America's police.
	Okay, now wait a minute.
	If he's going to talk about selection bias and accountability and all these things that he's kind of hinting at, he has to do a methodology study himself to disprove this.
	You just can't sit there.
	I mean, I can see it's possible to do a methodology study to show that this survey is bullcrap.
	You could do it.
	Of course.
	But just saying, it's this bull, it's no good.
	Why is it no good?
	The guy's got no proof whatsoever.
	Right.
	Because it doesn't fit the entire narrative, and it's coming from Harvard.
	They have a narrative going.
	This is that left-wing narrative you keep hearing when you listen to that horrible, serious station.
	Oh, no, that's much worse.
	They're just lying.
	They're just lying.
	That's not a bias.
	No.
	It's entertainment is what it is.
	Well, entertainment is what it is.
	I think it's entertainment.
	It's good stuff.
	Just staying with Black Lives Matter for a moment.
	Did you know that they were active up in Scandinavia?
	Yes, I did know that, as a matter of fact.
	I did.
	And they're very well received by Trudeau.
	Yeah, well, not so well received by all Canadians, certainly because they interrupted the Toronto Pride Day.
	And here's a Canadian gay.
	The conflict that went down at the Toronto Pride Parade last week, let's hear your thoughts on that.
	So the gay community are getting a really big red pill right now.
	Last week in Toronto, Black Lives Matter...
	What does that even mean?
	What, red pill?
	Yeah.
	Oh, they're getting a dose of reality, like red pill, blue pill, the Matrix.
	I thought the blue pill was reality.
	Well, if that's the one you took, no wonder.
	It explains a lot.
	I prayed last week.
	Let's hear you.
	Did you take the blue pill?
	I don't know what pill you're talking about.
	You took the wrong pill.
	Have you seen The Matrix?
	I've seen The Matrix.
	I saw all The Matrix scenes and I paid no attention to them.
	I know there was a pill.
	Here, take the pill.
	It was the corniest idea ever.
	Take the pill.
	Somebody took the pill.
	Is it the red pill?
	Is it the blue pill?
	I don't know.
	The conflict that went down at the Toronto Pride Parade last week.
	Let's hear your thoughts on that.
	So the gay community are getting a really big red pill right now.
	Last week in Toronto, Black Lives Matter shut down the Pride Parade, with a list of demands, one of which included removing the police float from the parade.
	And this is quite insulting for a number of reasons.
	Firstly, there are lots of gay police officers working in Toronto.
	Secondly, there are also lots of black police officers.
	And in fact, the head of the Toronto Police Department is a black man, so I don't understand how they reconcile this.
	And also, after what happened in Orlando, where 49 gay people were killed, it seems quite insulting to expect us to remove police presence, as they did in San Francisco, from pride parades, making us even weaker targets to terrorism.
	And so is there a problem with Toronto's black police officers killing white Scandinavians?
	So then it's not just an American crazy-ass thing.
	It's a very different culture.
	But apparently it's the same?
	How can this be?
	This makes no sense.
	What is Soros up to?
	It's a worldwide takeover.
	It's not taking over anything, though.
	It's just making certain groups cower.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'll take that.
	Cower.
	Oh no, what did we do wrong?
	Why are they picking on us?
	What did we do wrong?
	Why are they picking on us?
	We have black people.
	I know a black man.
	Ridiculous.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
	Yeah.
	Where's the money?
	1.9 billion dollars.
	Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
	Yeah.
	Where's the money?
	Two reports.
	Small heads are coming.
	You're going to do it.
	You watch.
	Two reports came out.
	Interesting.
	The Zika.
	Of course, it's a little on the back burner, but they're still trying to get the $1.9 billion slush fund to all their buddies.
	So we have New York City with a suspected female-to-male transmission of Zika virus.
	This is very interesting.
	Female-to-male sexual transmission of the Zika virus.
	And they say that...
	This woman, who was in her 20s, reported she had engaged in a single event of condomless vaginal intercourse with a male partner.
	And somehow, the male partner now also has the Zika virus.
	This is not a very traditional way of...
	It doesn't sound right.
	No.
	I mean, if there was cunnilingus performed, okay, I can believe that, but she doesn't say that, and the report is an official report.
	Well, I would have to assume that's what happened.
	I would think so, but she's embarrassed to say it, right?
	I don't know.
	No, maybe the media just won't say that.
	Well, yeah, a lot of things don't fit.
	Researchers at Imperial College London indicate the ongoing Zika academic in parts of Latin America will likely burn itself out within three years, according to their computer models.
	And this was published in Science, and it concludes the Zika epidemic will largely come to an end in about two to three years.
	And the next large-scale epidemic is unlikely to emerge for at least another ten years.
	That puts a damper on everything.
	I love those computer models.
	They're so good.
	I love it, but it puts a damper on things, doesn't it?
	It puts a damper on something.
	Alright, let's go to the free speech issue.
	Okay.
	This is probably the hardest I've ever seen the hate speech notions pushed on network TV. This is a hate speech diatribe on CBS. CBS! With these massacres, including Nice, Dallas, and Orlando, coming so rapidly now, we wondered what's changed.
	Well, Mark Strassman found one factor in the growth of hate online.
	Woo!
	The night five police officers were gunned down in Dallas, an extremist group called the African American Defense League posted this message online.
	We must kill white police officers across the country.
	One of the group's followers was Micah Johnson, the Dallas gunman.
	People just have much more access to hate and people also feel more emboldened to project their hate.
	Oren Siegel tracks extremist groups online.
	The internet sort of breaks down some of these normal sort of codes of conduct that we have.
	And so in some ways we see quite a bit of a spike in hate speech because of the internet.
	The internet can be a community of hate.
	Extremist organizations with web pages looking for followers.
	Dylan Roof, who murdered nine black churchgoers in Charleston last June, said the Council of Conservative Citizens, an online white supremacist group, shaped his racial views.
	And Tashfeen Malik, one of two terrorists who killed 14 people in San Bernardino, spread her radicalized views with her Facebook friends.
	The most impactful type of activity online by extremists is really on social media.
	Because social media is a whole different sort of feeling.
	It's an ability for you to engage with somebody, create a community, feel like you have like-minded people who are interested in you.
	Siegel said the challenge comes in fighting hate speech without violating people's right to free speech.
	Give me that community of hate again.
	I liked it.
	Community of hate.
	That's a ringtone right there.
	So, community of hate.
	So there's a kicker if you want to play part two.
	Of course you want to play a kicker.
	This is dynamite stuff.
	I love it.
	The Simon Wiesenthal Center tracks online networks that involve extremist groups.
	Two years ago, it had identified 30,000 of them and stopped counting.
	Then gave up.
	Too much, too much hate.
	We've had enough of this hate.
	We've stopped counting.
	Well, that just fits right into my thesis from earlier.
	It makes nothing but sense.
	Just hate.
	Just hate.
	Hate, hate, hate.
	That's right.
	We're not prepared for it.
	Okay.
	I have two more things.
	What do you got?
	Anything else?
	I've got a little bit on the setup at the convention.
	All the work there.
	They're making a big fuss.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	And they're really just everyone.
	Everyone is saying it's going to be a bloodbath.
	It's going to be horrible.
	We have groups coming from all over the world.
	Then I'd say this clip would be the one you want, which is Convention Security CBS with the kicker.
	Okay.
	Omar Villafranca in Lakeway for us tonight.
	Omar, thanks.
	Correspondent Jeff Pegues says that France is on the minds of those protecting next week's Republican convention.
	Yeah, they'd rather be in France.
	What?
	I said they'd rather be in Paris.
	Protecting next week's on the minds.
	It was so interesting to see in France that...
	It's summertime, so everyone's on vacation, but most of the news people were on vacation in France.
	You see Brooke Baldwin completely tanned, looking all beautiful.
	They're all hanging out there.
	And by the way, I want to ask this question.
	I forgot to mention this when we did the Istanbul report.
	How did all these anchors, these people be there instantly?
	They had Williams, that girl that works for Holly Williams, the girl that works for CBS.
	And she also doesn't work for Sky News, apparently.
	She was right there while it was happening.
	They were vacationing.
	These are the elites.
	These are the elites vacationing in the south of France.
	Well, she was in Istanbul.
	These are the elites vacationing in Istanbul.
	It could make sense.
	It is a hot spot to vacation in.
	And you'd think, based upon no agenda logic, you know, you have a big terrorist attack at the airport in Istanbul.
	Best time to go is now.
	Yeah, it is.
	I'm glad we didn't say that.
	They took our advice.
	Yeah.
	Omar Villafranca and Lakeway for us tonight.
	Omar, thanks.
	And Lakeway, of course, is right up the road from me.
	This is the father and son who were killed in Nice.
	Very sad.
	Correspondent Jeff Pegay says that France is on the minds of those protecting next week's Republican convention.
	It's Jeff the Gay, everybody.
	We keep hearing this gay word.
	Is it us?
	He said, here's Jeff the Gay.
	Omar Villafranca in Lakeway for us tonight, Omar.
	Thanks.
	Correspondent Jeff Pegay says that France is on the minds of those protecting next week's Republican convention.
	Barricades and jersey walls line the streets, machines are in place to detect a potential chemical attack, and police surveillance is ramped up.
	Still, stopping a me-style copycat attack is difficult.
	Ron Hosko is a former assistant director of the FBI. There's a real risk that someone who is inspired to action, whether criminal or terrorist, sees this as a success.
	And they try to replicate it.
	50,000 people will attend the convention and thousands of protesters are expected.
	4,000 local police will be supplemented by thousands of federal officials.
	So what is this?
	The secure zone has been mapped out by the Secret Service to allow agents to quickly cover miles and seconds in case of a disturbance.
	It's not easy.
	Secret Service Director Joseph Clancy.
	Plan's never finished.
	You have to constantly be ready to adapt, be flexible to whatever may occur.
	Scott, it's about remaining vigilant.
	Officials say there is no specific or credible threat against the convention.
	No credible threat.
	There's no nothing.
	No credible threat, huh?
	And then the other thing is they cover miles in seconds.
	How do you cover miles?
	Can you do a mile in one second?
	I don't know.
	I don't think it's possible.
	I think they're full of crap.
	Well, this is going to be quite a show, obviously.
	It starts tomorrow.
	Yeah, it's going to be quite the show.
	It actually kind of starts tonight with some pre-crap.
	Everybody knows that there's 6,000 people being bussed in, groups from all over the country, there specifically to just make trouble.
	Yeah.
	They should make it so only locals can be in the city.
	They should do lots of stuff, but...
	Something interesting came up in the United Nations when it comes to strife in countries and uprisings.
	Samantha Power, United States, announced its support for a set of principles that give a green light for United Nations peacekeeping troops and police to use force to protect civilians in armed conflicts.
	U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Samantha Power, told a high-level U.N. meeting Wednesday, focusing on the responsibility to protect civilians, we're here for your protection, civilian, that the United States was proud and humbled to join 28 other countries that have pledged to abide by the 18 pledges.
	Is this, do I read this, that if necessary, we could have United Nations peacekeepers, the blue helmets, in America?
	It'd be great.
	This is New World Order stuff, man.
	Of course.
	You've got something against the New World Order?
	Yeah, I'm a little belligerent, I would have to say.
	Arrest him.
	What else do I have here?
	I got a clip that kind of got me.
	I forgot, you know, play this Cuba embargo clip.
	Cuba...
	Cuba embargo.
	The NGO Oxfam has issued a call to lift the U.S. embargo on Cuba.
	Oxfam Executive Director Winnie Baima said the group had previously avoided taking up the issue but will now campaign to have it removed sooner rather than later.
	In March, President Obama became the first sitting president in 88 years to visit Cuba as diplomatic relations were restored and the U.S. embassy there reopened.
	However, the more than half-century-old embargo remains in place.
	When I heard this, I said, wait a minute.
	I thought the embargo was already lifted, but apparently not.
	Or it's the Mandela effect.
	Oh, that would be it.
	That's my guess.
	Alright, well a couple of things in Europe.
	Migrants, first of all, there's been a massive migrant camp set up right next to George Clooney's Italian mansion.
	That's just beautiful.
	This is a beautiful thing.
	This is a funny, yeah.
	This is very funny.
	I like that a lot.
	Survey has revealed that Germany's top companies employ a total of 54.
	Wow, that's really good.
	What a great ratio.
	A million or something that's in Germany?
	That's a great ratio.
	And this was on...
	Now what was this?
	This was on...
	What show was this?
	This is Yanis Varoufakis, the former Greek finance minister.
	And he's blowing the whistle and calling himself a whistleblower while doing it.
	There's a long lead into this, but what he starts off in this interview is saying, I wish that when I was in the EU Council, now you know the EU Council meetings are done in secret.
	This is where the laws are made and then we hand it over to the Parliament and Parliament can go say, well...
	Or issue a yellow card or whatever is necessary.
	Yeah, they don't get anywhere.
	And he said something happened, which he'll explain in a moment, with the German, with the German, who was it then?
	We'll find out who it is, as you mentioned in the clip.
	Something happened during one of these top secret meetings, and he said, oh, I wish I could just press the button and have it live stream.
	You say it's easy in the sense that you just press a button, but in terms of changing the mindset of politicians and institutions, that's not so easy, is it?
	Well, you know, pressing that button would go a long way towards that.
	When I attended my first Eurogroup and I heard, to my dismay, the German finance minister, in all seriousness, saying that elections cannot be allowed to change economic policy.
	At that moment, I thought, if only the world could see this and could hear this, if only our citizens, both in Germany and in Greece, but also in Britain, France, everywhere else, could actually hear that, that would change the debate.
	But in a sense, that has been heard, and that has changed the debate, hasn't it?
	And that's why we're having people saying, look, the European Union might have had some great ideals, but it's fundamentally undemocratic.
	Well, the only reason why you've heard it is because I told you, because I operated as something of a whistleblower.
	It is remarkable that for all those years nobody else has done that, really.
	And it shouldn't be down to a particular person and a particular whistleblowing minister to offer this degree of transparency.
	And you're right.
	The fact that whistleblowing is essential in order to bring this news out in the open...
	Yeah, so he brought it out in the open.
	No one will care, but it's nice for us.
	We like it.
	Yeah.
	We like hearing those things.
	And it makes nothing but sense.
	I played this one out of order.
	I wanted to play this right after the Blue Helmets story.
	This is Ben Hodges, Commanding General, United States Army, Europe.
	I don't think that's the exact title.
	And he's on BBC Hard Talk.
	And he brings up a term which we may be hearing more of.
	Are you worried right now?
	The thing I worry about the most is freedom of movement.
	The Russians are able to move huge formations and lots of equipment a long distance very fast.
	20,000 troops, a lot of equipment shows up on the border of NATO country or maybe somebody like Georgia or Ukraine.
	That is concerning.
	The Russians have what we call freedom of movement on interior lines.
	They can move anywhere inside Russia as fast as they want.
	In order for our political leaders to have options other than a liberation campaign, we need to match that same speed inside NATO that would say, we see what you're thinking about doing.
	Don't do it.
	We're prepared.
	You don't have that speed today.
	No.
	We need what I would call a military Schengen zone that would allow the military to move inside.
	A British convoy, an American convoy, a German convoy should be able to go anywhere inside NATO in order to have the same freedom of movement.
	And I'm talking about three days.
	Three days notification.
	We ought to be able to do that.
	We absolutely don't have that right now.
	I love the sound of it.
	Oh, God.
	Military Schengen zone.
	Nice, nice.
	You know, I'm glad we're alive during this period, John.
	It's a good time to do a show.
	It is.
	Why don't you play this clip?
	I don't know what this clip is, but it may be the one I was looking for.
	Try this push report on terror at the election.
	What's interesting, David, is that after what happened in Nice, I think more and more Americans are thinking about the fact that terrorism might affect not just us over here, but someone in their family.
	How does that play into the party and the candidate?
	You hit on a very important point for this election.
	Every week when there is a new attack, it makes voters think more and more about their personal security.
	And recently, Pew Research, that has been tracking this well before 9-11, but came out with its newest findings, that 51% of Americans now think they or a member of their family will be a victim of terrorism.
	And as those numbers stay that high, or hopefully they don't, but could get higher, it only makes foreign policy and terrorism more of an issue.
	And on this issue, look, there couldn't be a bigger difference.
	You have Hillary Clinton, who allowed four Americans to die in Benghazi and who was part of every major foreign policy decision that has helped get us to this point in our in where we are in the fight on terrorism versus Donald Trump, who says we're going to close down our who allowed four Americans to die in Benghazi and who was part of every major foreign policy decision that has We're going to close down our borders to make sure we know who's coming in here.
	We're going to get out people who have committed crimes and want to do harm to America.
	We're going to get them out.
	And we're going to get tough on terrorists.
	Now, that's a pretty easy choice for most Americans about who they're going to vote for.
	Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again.
	That was kind of an interesting thing, this 51%, which is ludicrous if you think about it.
	Do you think that one of your relatives or family members or yourself, just asking you, are going to get killed by a terrorist?
	I don't think that.
	But I can imagine that the public at large, they're being scared to death.
	Probably a lot of them do believe that.
	But 51% of the American public, are you kidding me?
	Yeah, you don't think so?
	You think that's...
	No, I do believe it, but I don't believe that anyone could actually think that way.
	I mean, it doesn't surprise me, but to think that way, if you look at the statistical analysis of being killed by a terrorist, what the likelihood is, it's so remote that I think the public at large is being bamboozled, and I also think that they're basically stupid because they never consider this stuff.
	They don't Consider the numbers.
	You're telling me that there's propaganda and lying going on?
	I'm shocked!
	Alright, that's the clip I was looking for actually from earlier.
	I like it.
	You know, I think that's about all I have for today.
	I'm good.
	I got some stuff I'm going to move forward.
	We could continue for a while, obviously.
	But we're going to have lots more on Thursday because, of course...
	The way things are going, there will be an event today.
	Well, the event happened already.
	Right, right.
	Three cops killed.
	Today's event happened.
	That happens on show day.
	Then there's going to be the convention, which will be hilarious.
	And there's going to be some action there, so there's going to be some event there.
	There'll probably be three or four events.
	This is unbelievable.
	It's a bonanza of events.
	It really is a bonanza of events.
	And it's always on show days, which is just uncanny.
	Uncanny.
	Not quite sure...
	What to do with it, but...
	There it is.
	There it is, indeed.
	Well, thank you very much for supporting the work.
	It's great when we have support, because we're doing a lot of it.
	And we'll continue.
	It's like double time on the spin bike now.
	Just cranking it out.
	Trying to keep up.
	These are times when it would be nice to have some staff, but honestly, I'm glad we do it all together.
	A spin bike metaphor.
	Yes.
	We've sunk to a new low.
	Ha!
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	That content, that by content, that stuff should not have been transmitted.
	Even if she's...
	To me, this isn't quite an issue.
	But even if she's the problem...
	Which is it?
	This is what she might have gotten.
	This is the problem.
	When I say whoa, I mean whoa.
	This thing can get much uglier.
	It is real and it's brewing.
	They can bring out airplanes.
	It may well be a very hot summer.
	We don't know what ramifications will come.
	Mental incapacity.
	Criminal thoughts?
	That could happen in front of a ball game, a church, a theater.
	The theater is real and it's brewing.
	What we do know is that there will be more people killed by guns.
	The agenda.
	Joining a gang is like having a family.
	The agenda.
	It's feeling like you're part of something bigger than yourself.
	So we're either going to have gangs that murder and rob and Do the things that are so destructive to the gang members and to the community.
	Or we're going to have positive gangs.
	We're going to have positive alternatives for young people.
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