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	Where's my book?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, February 10th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 486.
	This is no agenda.
	Preparing for the Illuminati music sacrifices tonight in the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin Tejas.
	Good morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, without further ado, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	Nailed it!
	That's right, baby.
	Tonight, Illuminati sacrifices.
	I can't wait.
	What's going on?
	At the Grammys.
	Oh, the Grammys.
	Oh, God.
	Thanks for reminding me.
	Was it one year ago already that Whitney Houston died?
	Was that a year ago already?
	You've got to be kidding me.
	That was two years ago.
	That's horrible.
	Sure?
	Sure was a year ago, not two years ago?
	No.
	Are you absolutely sure?
	No, I'm not absolutely sure.
	To the point where you put money on it.
	Yeah, I'll put money on it.
	It was one year ago.
	Oh, you looked it up.
	No, it was one year ago.
	Let's find out.
	Who dies this year?
	That's the theme of this show.
	Who dies this year?
	I think we're too late.
	You're supposed to die during Clive's party.
	That was last night.
	It's too late for the dying.
	We don't know.
	They may find a body in the basement or something.
	Here's the homework.
	Everyone has homework.
	Of course, the Grammys will come on after the show, and I always appreciate it.
	I like watching the Grammys.
	I like seeing it.
	Whatever happened, remember when live award shows were exciting, and they were exciting really for one reason, because you'd wait for who's it going to be this year, who's the guy that's going to say...
	Hey, stop this lunacy.
	Stop killing people.
	Let's just stop this craziness.
	And would call out political leaders.
	That never happens anymore.
	Ever.
	The last time it happened was with Michael Moore.
	Michael Moore.
	That's right.
	And how long ago was that?
	Because he's still just kind of an initiate.
	He was banned from ever winning another award, although it's unspoken.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And they started to say, no, during the Bush administration, they just cracked down on this crap.
	Yeah, no more.
	And now we have Obama in, who's supported by Hollywood.
	You mean George W. Obama?
	George Obama.
	George Obama.
	I like the George.
	Well, maybe we should do George Obama.
	You know, it's funny.
	How about George Wobama?
	Yeah.
	I was reading that Malcolm X's, I think it was, let me just see, was it his grandson, I think, hold on, was on his way to Tehran.
	Ah, no, crap, how come I can't find this?
	He was on his way to Tehran for, there's this conference, apparently, and I got it here, and this is like, I don't know, it's like the third or fourth year they're holding this conference, and what is it called here?
	It is the, you know, ever since I stopped smoking, like, I really can't see anymore with my glasses.
	This is a real problem.
	I have an idea.
	Get new glasses?
	Yes.
	Well, it's like there's a focal point.
	I don't think it'll work.
	The problem is with the monitors.
	There's a certain comfortable distance for a monitor.
	I'm sure you have an opinion on this.
	And this comfortable distance for the monitor is no longer within the focal point for my eyes.
	It's right outside the range with the glasses, but it's also outside the range without the glasses because I'm nearsighted.
	So my nearsightedness is I'd have to get too close to the monitor for it to actually be comfortable or healthy probably.
	You know what I mean?
	I know exactly what you mean.
	So...
	Just get new glasses.
	I don't think it's that simple.
	No, you can get glasses specifically.
	Tell your optometrist, ophthalmologist, or whatever you want.
	Whatever advertising, I don't care what you call them.
	Obstetrician.
	Tell him that you need to wear glasses that will see a monitor at whatever comfortable.
	Say it's three feet, usually, what most people seem to like.
	Three feet?
	No.
	I'm like two feet, maybe.
	Tops.
	Two feet?
	Why don't you just stick your nose on the monitor?
	Well, I might have to.
	Okay, say you like two feet.
	Whatever the case is, they'll make a pair of glasses specifically for your monitor.
	But will it work for driving then?
	No.
	See, this is the problem.
	Then I have to have different glasses for a regular show.
	Well, you can get bifold.
	It doesn't look like an old fart.
	I mean, you can do that.
	But I would suspect that maybe there's these new correcting ones, these crazy ones that change or something when you move around.
	I don't even know how they work.
	You think that really works?
	You think that's for real?
	Yeah, because I tried them at one of these trade shows.
	And they changed the focal thing somehow.
	The focal point?
	They got something going on inside.
	I actually was going to write about it and follow up and learn something about the technology, and then I just dropped the ball.
	You mean basically get some free glasses.
	Is that what you're saying?
	That's usually your OA. That would probably be a methodology for doing that, but I dropped the ball.
	It's just like, you know, I haven't got time for this.
	Alright, so this is going on right now.
	It is indeed the third.
	The third international Hollywoodism conference in Tehran, Iran.
	Have you ever heard of this?
	No, I know they have a lot of strange conferences in Tehran, but I never heard of the Hollywoodism.
	Yeah, and there's a lot of Hollywood people there.
	Yeah, the FBI.
	Well, I'm going to hit the play button in a minute.
	The FBI arrested Malcolm X's grandson, who was on his way to Iran.
	I think there might be an issue just as an American to go to Iran.
	I'm not sure.
	You can't just go, can you?
	I think if you're a journalist you can go.
	Right, right.
	But I don't think...
	You still have to have State Department stuff.
	But I think you can still get in there if you go roundabout.
	Right.
	So here is from Press TV. Of course, this is Iranian TV, which is propaganda.
	But there's a nice little symposium, and they have the guy, the janitor from the World Trade Center.
	Remember this guy's story?
	Rosie O'Donnell was hyping him for a little bit.
	He's the janitor from the World Trade Center who heard the explosions from the garage, went down there, saw people coming up all blown to shreds from the explosions in the garage during the 9-11, which of course was only airplanes hijacked by dudes with box cutters.
	And this guy, I thought he was dead, quite honestly.
	I had no idea.
	He might as well be dead.
	Who was dead?
	This guy, this janitor who has this unbelievable story about bombs on 9-11, that no one will take him seriously.
	A lot of people apparently take him seriously.
	Yeah, but not...
	When you say no one, you're just talking about, what, the media?
	Mainstream media, yes.
	Yeah, like officials.
	Officials.
	Okay.
	That's different.
	Okay.
	Yes, I take them seriously.
	Of course I take them seriously.
	Hollywood discussed and dissected, but from a very different angle.
	Intellectuals from around the world wrapped up a four-day conference on Hollywoodism.
	Hold on a second.
	Intellectuals from around the world?
	John, did you check your mail?
	It may have gotten by, maybe in the spam box.
	It's in the spam filter.
	Is this a robot talking, by the way?
	I don't know.
	This is the third year that Iran is holding this forum to address the massive impact of the U.S. film industry on popular culture and political attitudes.
	By the way, as conferences go, I'm looking at the video.
	They need help.
	They really need help.
	It looks so boring.
	And the tables are in a U-shape.
	This is so wrong.
	This is not how you do a conference, people.
	The participants believe they can make a difference.
	A march of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
	This is a former Marine Corps officer.
	We're making multiple steps here.
	I believe it's important in terms of dealing with the international and all-pervasive influence of Hollywood.
	A conference like this is a major development, and I'm very glad to be here and to be dealing with many others who are of similar mind.
	Ten separate meetings were held as participants took turns to express their views on how Hollywood propagates certain ideas through its productions.
	Okay, so here's the janitor guy.
	I guess he actually had a little PowerPoint presentation, it looks like.
	Oh, please, a janitor with PowerPoint has the world sunk that low.
	How they manipulate an image, how they don't allow the certain truth to come out.
	The reason that I'm here mainly also is because my story, I am the last survivor of the World Trade Center, and my story was edited and manipulated by the media in the United States.
	They didn't want my story to come out.
	Meanwhile, the role of independent media was highlighted.
	Here's from the best podcast in the universe, John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry, never seen together in the same room, but they were here at the third International Hollywoodism Conference.
	Unfortunately, no.
	We see some woman in a burka.
	Speaking French.
	It's important for us to care about the effects of Hollywood and its products.
	We don't care, lady.
	How's this guy the last survivor of the World Trade Center collapsed?
	William Rodriguez is his name.
	He has a very interesting story.
	Yeah, including that he's the last survivor.
	Yes.
	Come on, it's a translation thing.
	You know he means well.
	He means well.
	He got a free trip to Tehran, by the way.
	Apparently a beautiful place for tourism.
	Seriously.
	Well, I know.
	I know this because one of my good friends is married to a...
	I'm sorry.
	He's living with an Iranian girl, and she goes back all the time.
	And he went with her, and they had a mullah.
	Did I tell you the story that he had a mullah marry them so they could stay in the same room?
	But you know how this goes?
	So you go to a mullah, a mullah, what do you call it?
	A mullah?
	You call it mullah, I call it mullah.
	In Amsterdam.
	You know, to get the official blessing so they could actually stay.
	And the paperwork is the paperwork they're interested in.
	Right, paperwork.
	And so at a certain point, the guy said, you know, the mullah says, all right, so, you know, what's the, what is the wedding bounty?
	What is the, what do you call it?
	What are you going to pay me, dudes?
	No, no, no.
	No, no, the payment thing, that's pretty clear what that is.
	The dowry.
	Yeah, the dowry, exactly.
	And he hadn't thought, he was like, oh, crap.
	He said, oh, well, I just gave her a car.
	And he was like, oh, very good, very good.
	What kind of car?
	He was like, BMW 3 Series.
	Oh, okay, yes, very good, very good.
	He's just like, this was acceptable as a dowry, a BMW 3 Series.
	Two goats.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, someone who is not going to the Hollywoodism conference is Philip Marshall.
	I don't know if you heard about this.
	Philip Marshall, former pilot.
	He was a member of the organization I'm a member of, PilotsFor911Truth.org.
	But he's written a lot of, I think, books that have been published, but a lot, all about 9-11.
	And this is quite an amazing story.
	He suicided himself, his two kids, and the dog.
	And to me, that's always such a slap in the face.
	So the guys who came in to assassinate him, they had to kill his dog first?
	I mean, it's like we already know that he didn't kill himself.
	Do you really have to kill the dog to send us the message?
	They had to kill the dog to get in.
	Oh, you think that's what it was to get in?
	I think it was a reverse order.
	First you shoot the dog.
	I mean, when they shot Weaver up there in the Idaho woods, they had to kill the dog.
	Oh, you're right.
	Randy.
	Kill the dog first, somehow.
	And then go in there and wipe out it.
	Oh, the damn kids are here.
	What are you going to do?
	Well, we've got to kill them.
	Take them out.
	They usually don't kill the kids.
	Let me see what kind of dog it was.
	I mean, you look at this guy like, this is not the kind of guy who's going to commit suicide.
	So he wrote one too many books or he got some documents probably was what's going to happen to you, by the way.
	Somebody sent him some documents he shouldn't have had access to.
	Hey, oh, by the way, that means you'll be out of his job.
	I don't know if you care.
	No, I'm going to do a high-end tribute.
	Forever.
	Just keep on going.
	Like Yoko Ono.
	Believe me, I can do clip shows for at least a year.
	That'll get me at least out of the hole.
	Yoko Ono.
	You're just going to be living off of me for the next century.
	It'll work.
	It's what Adam would have wanted.
	Misunderstood.
	Rehearse after me.
	Repeat after me.
	It's what Adam would have wanted.
	It's what Adam would have wanted, the poor guy.
	Poor bastard.
	Poor bastard.
	Why did they have to kill the dog?
	So they kill the dog and then they kill everybody.
	So this guy is probably, that's my guess.
	I mean, most people who are going to kill their kids and then kill themselves unless they're nuts.
	Yeah, don't kill the dog.
	And they usually wouldn't kill the dog.
	I mean, if they're depressed, they're not going to be shooting up the place.
	It doesn't make sense.
	But this is the whole thing.
	As he needed his kids.
	Yeah, but they just call them nuts.
	You know, they just say nuts, and that's how they explain it away.
	This, I think, has CSS written all over it.
	What do you say?
	I don't know what CSS has ever done.
	I think it could be just something to scare the public.
	I do have some interesting, a couple of clips here that I think we should get into.
	Chris Hedges, you know, sued the government on behalf of a couple of lawyers that hired him.
	Who's Chris Hedges again?
	Chris Hedges is a writer, a foreign correspondent, used to work for the New York Times, very credible.
	Wait, is this the guy who's on MSNBC? He's not on MSNBC. No, he doesn't like MSNBC. I don't think he's ever been on MSNBC. Whatever the case, and I have some clips that need to be listened to.
	He was part of a lawsuit against the NDAA, and he actually got an injunction against his use.
	And there's a number of very interesting things that have come.
	The only people that will cover this is Russia Today, and Hedges has a bunch of things to complain about.
	Now, was his lawsuit, was that the one that the ACLU was involved in as well, where the judge came out and said, well, you know, it's all legal what we're doing here, but I can't tell you why, because, you know...
	No, no.
	I don't think that's the same suit, because that's not the way this went down.
	This was not covered by anybody but the New York Times.
	Play the clip.
	Hedges NDAQ. That it won't harm the power interests that it serves.
	So the NDA case was never mentioned on MSNBC, because the primary purpose of MSNBC was to re-elect Barack Obama.
	And the NDA case would not make Obama look good.
	It wasn't mentioned on Fox because this section of the NDA has bipartisan support.
	It's interesting, I worked for the New York Times for 15 years, that the only established news organization that responsibly covered the case was the New York Times.
	And when Judge Forrest issued a ruling, the New York Times ran an editorial supporting her decision.
	Because the Times still...
	I mean, it's an elitist organization, and I have my critiques of the Times.
	But nevertheless, it still understands what is news and what is not.
	But that, for me, was a kind of frightening moment, because I realized how...
	How deteriorated our systems of information have become.
	Oh.
	And he gets paid to figure this out all of a sudden?
	Hello?
	Well, apparently he didn't think it was his...
	Well, you know, he doesn't listen to our show.
	No.
	I mean, most people believe the way he does.
	You can get news if you want to listen to Brian Williams.
	He's going to talk about some of this stuff.
	But nobody talked about this case.
	But here's the one.
	There's kind of an explanation for it.
	The clip is this one.
	I actually didn't even know.
	I took this clip and then it took me a couple of listens before I realized what he's actually saying, which is kind of frightening.
	This is the killer clip.
	It's a little long, but it's very interesting to me.
	So for people who are just tuning in, the NDAA, we do have to revisit once in a while.
	It's the National Defense Authorization Act.
	After we read the bill, which we always do on this program, we immediately identified that there were two main issues.
	One, you can kill Americans.
	The president, not just the president, the government can kill Americans without process.
	Because we're good at killing Americans even if you do get a trial, especially in Texas.
	And then the second part is you can just be black-bagged off the street and taken into indefinite detention.
	These are the main issues, besides the half a trillion dollars of funding of the war machine.
	...in the Southern District Court of New York, that this was essentially not extending the powers of the government, but...
	Reinforcing existing powers.
	Now, I've read the AUMF several times.
	It's very clear that this is a vast extension of government authority, allowing government to detain U.S. citizens or use the military to detain U.S. citizens, strip them of due process, hold them in military facilities.
	And definitely that is just not in the AUMF. And I think that we're seeing, and we just saw the release of a memo, a 16-page white paper on drone attacks, which looks like it was written by a first-year law student.
	I mean, you know, I can't stand John Yoo, but at least he could write a coherent legal brief for the Bush administration justifying torture.
	I mean, it's wrong, of course, but the amaturnish of this, you know, it's a completely amateur argument.
	And I think what we're seeing in this case, in this memo, is an attempt by the Obama administration to justify activities that they've already carried out, which include the assassination of American citizens, the Yemeni cleric, Anwar al-Awaki, his 16-year-old son two weeks later.
	It was not on anybody's terrorism list.
	And I think there's strong...
	I have a strong suspicion, and the lawyers have a strong suspicion, that they are already using Section 1021 of the NDAA. Because when Judge Forrest issued her ruling in September, the government attorneys, the day of the ruling, went to Judge Forrest and asked for a temporary stay.
	Meaning, put this law back on the books until it is heard in the Second Circuit or the Appellate Court.
	Now Judge Forrest refused.
	They then demanded an emergency hearing, this was a Friday, at 9 a.m.
	the next Monday morning at the Second Circuit, which they got.
	And they asked the judges on the Second Circuit, in the name of national security, to put this law back into effect, to override Judge Forrest's injunction.
	Now the Second Circuit agreed.
	We always knew the Obama administration would appeal.
	That was not an issue.
	They lost.
	We did not expect them to respond so aggressively.
	And I think that it's fair to conclude that they responded with that kind of aggressivity because they're already using the law, probably against U.S.-Pakistani dual nationals in places like Bagram.
	If Judge Forrest's injunction was allowed to stand, i.e.
	the law was invalid, and they were holding American citizens and denying them due process, then of course they would be in contempt of court.
	So this is a steady march forward in terms of stripping away our most basic civil liberties.
	I would say the NDAA, this case, is the last thin line of defense between what's left of our anemic democracy and our transformation into a military state.
	That's good.
	So, um, uh, he should write a book, you know?
	Yeah.
	Great.
	I mean, yeah.
	So he's saying, did you hear what he's saying?
	Of course I heard, well, the, the, just, so the judge, by the way, this is the judge who deemed the NDAA, particularly Section 1021, unconstitutional and block, and was trying to block it.
	That's, that's the, the, now I know what he's talking about.
	She did block it.
	She did, yes.
	But they raced back, and he claims that they raced back with such ferocity.
	Because they already, they already have people.
	In other words, they have already locked up Americans in one form or another using the NDAA as an excuse.
	Yes.
	Although it's really nice that this New York Times elitist has figured it out.
	Duh!
	The thing is, the joke is, is that his only venue is a book that no one's going to read, and Russia Today.
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	Which means nobody is even quite, there's not even one, nobody's brought this up at all.
	The MSNBC doesn't bring it up, the Fox doesn't bring it up.
	Well, hold on.
	All right, then let me get right into it.
	Here's what MSNBC is doing.
	Here's what PBS is doing.
	Now I get to play a couple clips.
	Here we go.
	Let's start first with...
	Oh, I don't know.
	Let's start with MSNBC. Now, the narrative now has changed.
	So instead of like this guy...
	Chris Hedges, instead of saying, hey, we're on the edge of our democratic republic being completely turned into a military police state, which, by the way, 15 years of the New York Times, I guess it takes a little longer to be birthed and woken up, like, hello, Chris, welcome to the universe.
	So instead of discussing that, no, we're going to propagate something that we already identified.
	And here it is.
	We only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative...
	So first, let me get a few things out of the way on drones.
	In general, I think drones can be a useful and effective tool of war.
	If there's a bad guy, a senior leader of Al-Qaeda, let's say.
	Hey, let's say there's a bad guy?
	He's like leader of Al-Qaeda?
	I mean, we should be able to drone him, don't you think so, John?
	I think we should be able to drone him.
	This is the entire it's okay motion.
	And most Americans agree with it.
	that this is what it is. - It can take out with a drone strike.
	I say we do it.
	I am, however, bothered by the secrecy, lack of transparency.
	- Ah, and this is the next piece.
	As long as it's just like the FISA courts, okay, as long as we have a special judge who can look at it and say, all in secrecy, obviously, yeah, I think you can drone that American citizen, then it's okay with these idiots.
	The lack of oversight of the drone program.
	The process by which we determine targets should be detailed and codified.
	The people who are killed, civilian and militant, should be public information or at least known by Congress so that we can study the overall impact of our drone policy on radicalizing civilian populations.
	And there should be some sort of judicial branch oversight such as special courts or the threat of lost suits after the fact perhaps.
	So to sum it up, I'm okay with drones in general but not satisfied with the current way the program is being handled.
	Okay, so we're doing pretty good on this.
	Doing pretty good on the drugs.
	This is a great clip.
	Oh, no, wait.
	It gets better.
	This woman?
	Who is this woman?
	Her name is Crystal Ball.
	I know.
	Oh, not Crystal Ball.
	Yeah, it's Crystal Ball.
	Oh, God, yeah.
	Crystal Ball.
	She's a ditz.
	Well, I'm going to come back.
	She's on MSNBC. She's on with Touré a lot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I'm going to come back to her because it gets better with her.
	But first, let's go to my other favorite Obama podcast.
	By the way, stop.
	What kind of a fucking name is Crystal Ball?
	I know.
	It's like the worst DJ name in the world.
	Hey, it's Bubba the Love Sponge here with Crystal Ball.
	I mean, come on.
	The parents are like, I know.
	Our last name is Ball.
	I've got a great idea.
	Let's call her Crystal with a K. So here's Eleanor, the douchette from Newsweek.
	On the McLaughlin Group, which, by the way, when I die, I want you to take over that show.
	You'd be perfect.
	Because McLaughlin and I will go at the same time.
	Now, what's his signature thing?
	He's always like, When we come back!
	All right.
	So the main topic, drones.
	Now, what does Eleanor think?
	First of all, drones are here to stay.
	They are the 21st century modern tool of war.
	What?
	And in many ways, they are a blessing.
	A blessing!
	They are a blessing, I tell you.
	Much better than bombers, because they can be more effective and targeted than bomber planes.
	The hubris of this woman!
	It's much better than bombs from planes.
	It's a plane with a bomb, Eleanor!
	Raining bombs down.
	It's raining bombs!
	with an enemy that is harbored in various places in countries where we are not at war with the country it's the only way you can really get at them short of invading that country which we did and discovered that isn't so hot so so i love this there's She's saying, drones are good because we don't want to be like George Bush.
	Because, you know, we don't want to invade a country, because that's like George Bush.
	That would be really bad.
	No, no.
	We're just going to kill people from the air.
	I would say they are a blessing.
	A blessing!
	But they bring all sorts of ethical and moral concerns, and there should be some sort of judicial review, and the program that appears to be the most troubling is the one run by the CIA. So do you hear this?
	Again, they want, just like the FISA courts, Which is the warrantless wiretapping on Americans.
	They just want to have some judge somewhere.
	Oh, yeah, okay.
	Yeah, some judge in the pocket of whoever.
	Yeah, that seems like the right guy.
	The rubber stamping stuff.
	He's a rubber stamp judge.
	That's what he's going to be.
	Let's face it.
	They're not going to have any judge saying no to anything.
	Really?
	I mean, give me a break.
	Why would they have it?
	I mean, what's the point?
	And there's also kind of this...
	She doesn't like the CIA's involvement for some reason.
	This sounds like talking points because both Crystal Ball, if that is indeed her real name, and Eleanor essentially said the same thing.
	You want to hear more Crystal Ball?
	Oh, yeah.
	I do.
	Because now Crystal Ball is going to compare our president's great drone program to everything.
	So she's going to do a good and evil.
	And this of course is good and everything else everyone else does is evil.
	It was just astounding to me.
	There is something about this drone debate though that is driving me nuts.
	That's obvious.
	That's obvious, Crystal.
	You're driving me nuts!
	That's obvious.
	And that is the charge, mostly by Republicans, that if you feel any different about the drone program under President Obama than you would have under George W. Bush, you are an utter, hopeless hypocrite.
	So this is...
	I was waiting for this.
	Because of course you're an utter, hopeless hypocrite.
	Obviously.
	So, you know, now how are we going to explain this away?
	How are we going to say that if this, when the drone program started under George W. Bush, only it's been accelerated to the nth degree by George W. Obama, why is the media so complacent and so happy with it?
	Let me ask you a question.
	How would you feel about a Madeleine Albright panel on women and body image?
	What does that mean?
	What kind of a weird insult was that?
	It gets better.
	Hey, now how do you feel about the Larry Flint panel on women and body image?
	How do you feel about your kid and Dr.
	Ruth sex ed class versus Todd Akin?
	Do you feel different about Warren Buffet penning standards for financial ethics versus Bernie Madoff?
	Of course you do, because you're normal.
	But according to the Republican logic used during this drone debate, if you feel any different about the Madeleine Albright and Larry Flint panels, you are a hypocrite.
	So I guess someone wrote this.
	Yeah, so someone wrote this.
	She's having a hard time reading it.
	I don't even know if she read it right.
	No, no.
	And she's going to...
	I want you to listen to her stumble through the rest, because she really is...
	She doesn't understand what she's saying.
	But someone wrote and essentially said, well, you know, this is the difference.
	It's like...
	Obama and Bush, I guess, is what they're saying, is like Bernie Madoff to Buffett, is like Madeleine Albright, fat, ugly woman, versus Larry Flint, fat, ugly woman.
	I mean, it's like, you know, pornographer.
	I guess he's bad.
	I guess he's a horrible, horrible man because he publishes pornography.
	And it's not even porn.
	Penthouse is not porn.
	No, it's softcore.
	Yeah, it's sexy.
	So her point...
	Well, let's listen to some more.
	Maybe we'll understand the point.
	It's an interesting...
	What she's trying to do is an interesting attempt to make a point, but it's really lame.
	Yeah, it gets lamer.
	Look, I voted for President Obama because I trust his values and his judgment.
	And I believe that he's a fundamentally responsible actor.
	Get on the train!
	You're first!
	He's an actor?
	Yes!
	He's a responsible actor, John.
	She must be talking about the second Obama.
	Because I trust his values and his judgment.
	And I believe that he's a fundamentally responsible actor.
	He should have an Academy Award, I feel.
	I'm telling you, first on the train, Crystal Ball.
	Without gratuitously slamming next President Bush, I think he displayed extraordinary lapses in judgment in executing his primary responsibility as Commander-in-Chief and put troops in harm's way imprudently.
	President Obama would have exercised better judgment and he has exercised better judgment.
	The way it stands now, the drone program is exclusively within the domain of the executive.
	Their protocol, their judgment.
	So yeah, I feel a whole lot better about the program when the decider, so to speak, is President Obama.
	It's not to say that, again, the process shouldn't be codified, that there shouldn't be oversight.
	But really, is our standard so low that we would only grant powers to the executive that we would trust in the hands of a man who misled the nation to get us into a war we never should have been involved in?
	What would George W. Bush do?
	That's our standard?
	We would never allow a power to the presidency that we wouldn't feel comfortable giving to George W. Bush?
	I think we can raise the bar a bit from that.
	And just for a little perspective, let's keep in mind that the President does have the unilateral power to drop nuclear bombs and destroy the entire planet.
	Do you feel the same about George W. Bush having the nuclear codes as you do about President Obama?
	Call me a hypocrite, but I sure don't.
	I mean, to me...
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Mind-blowing.
	Hold on, stop.
	Mind-blowing.
	Stop.
	In the name of love.
	Clip of the day.
	Really?
	Wow, that's so kind of you.
	Although, I was expecting this.
	Clip of the day.
	You know, I don't mind that MSNBC has one true agenda.
	She should be ashamed of herself.
	And General Electric should be ashamed of itself for having this station on the air.
	No, she should not be.
	She should be happy and proud.
	She did a great job.
	She got through it without too many uhs or ahs.
	I think she did pretty good.
	She was a terrible read.
	No.
	It was.
	It wasn't very good at all.
	It wasn't sincere.
	She sounds like a sorority girl from USC. No offense to you USC listeners, but you know what I'm talking about.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	It's just horrible.
	Horrible, horrible person.
	And by the way, that is an actual television term when we say, yeah, that was a horrible read.
	That's literally how you say it in television.
	That was a great read.
	Because most people on television are reading.
	She's reading from a prompter, I would assume.
	I don't think she's reading from a sheet.
	She had a hard time.
	It was a horrible read.
	It was a very hard time getting through it.
	So, yes, the talking points are obvious, but the only thing I need to point out, and this is important because this is what's going to make you, as an eavesdropper on this conversation, feel much better.
	This is going to come pounding at you continuously.
	Most Americans agree.
	We like the drones.
	They're a blessing.
	That's my favorite.
	They're a blessing.
	Hey, at least it's President Obama who's got his finger on the button.
	At least it's him.
	He's a responsible actor.
	This is the pounding you're about to get.
	So you can now immunize yourself and be prepared for the onslaught when it's coming, mainly so that you as a no-agenda producer or listener don't get incredibly pissed off.
	You have to zen yourself because it's coming.
	It's going to be really, really big.
	This is going to be coming in from every which way.
	Might as well wrap it up with my last, which is the journalist, Hedges, talks about the journalists are actually probably, could be, would be, and they're definitely not exempt from being targeted by Section 1021.
	Right.
	Well, Bruce and Carl, the lawyers, approached me to be the plaintiff because, as a foreign correspondent for 20 years, I spent time, we counted him up, with either 17 individuals or groups that are on the State Department terrorism list, including al-Qaeda.
	And there's no exemption in this provision for journalists.
	So I have literally sat in vehicles with al-Qaeda members who are now spending the rest of their lives in prison.
	Number one, of course, that means, given the current state of drone attacks, I could have been incinerated.
	And number two, if I am printing, as I was, articles that present the viewpoint of groups that are deeply hostile to the United States, Have I substantially supported, this is the language of 1021, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or what they call associated forces?
	That's completely open to interpretation.
	and people who have a kind of hostility to the role of a free press, which is to prevent or present viewpoints that are inimical to our own, certainly would not shrink from branding me as a fifth columnist or a certainly would not shrink from branding me as a fifth columnist or a closet And I speak from experience.
	I covered the civil war in El Salvador and Nicaragua for five years during the Reagan administration.
	And because we were traveling frequently with the FMLN rebels in El Salvador or the Sandinistas in the battle against the Contras in Nicaragua, we had numerous officials within Washington denouncing us as fifth columnists, as supporters of terrorists.
	So I've already heard the rhetoric.
	I already know how it goes down.
	But this essentially goes beyond rhetoric and empowers the state not only to brand you linguistically a terrorist, but treat you legally as a terrorist.
	Yeah.
	Well, hello and welcome to 2013, my friend.
	I mean, do you have to go to Harvard to understand this stuff after 15 years of working at the New York Times, that you're screwed, that this is where we are?
	Well, I think what's interesting is that he finally came to this conclusion after getting involved in this lawsuit, which nobody covered.
	Well, we certainly covered.
	And nobody wants to cover.
	Nobody will cover.
	Nobody's going to cover this.
	Nobody's going to pay any attention to what this guy said.
	Nobody's going to even notice, and they're just going to go along on their merry way.
	And people will start disappearing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Hey, what happened to Brian Williams?
	Yeah.
	How come he's not coming in?
	I called him at home, man.
	I called his cell.
	And he wasn't picking up.
	What am I supposed to do?
	What are we going to do?
	Get the other guy in here.
	Get that crystal ball in.
	Let her take the banker.
	She's on our side.
	She's a good girl.
	Hold on.
	Here's our president.
	This is the only time that the press covered the drones.
	I have two words for you.
	Predator drones.
	That's right.
	When it was about...
	What band was it that he was threatening again with Predator drones?
	Some.
	The Boys on the Block or who knows who.
	It's just some place.
	The Backstreet Boys?
	Yes.
	Whatever.
	Hey, the only way, Nick, the only way that you're going to be safe from drones is when you are a celebrity judge.
	Win, lose, or drone!
	That's right, Chris Hentges, why don't you come on down?
	You can be our celebrity judge!
	You are immune, my friend, as it's time for us to play Win, Lose, or Drone!
	Win, Lose, or Drone!
	That's how you'll be immune.
	You've got to get on the game show, buddy.
	That's how it's going to go down.
	Meanwhile, if you're a kid and if you are just, you know, mucking around and you make up a kill list of your own because, you know, that's what the president has.
	6.38 p.m.
	Around dinnertime, Friday night, all it took was a phone call for parents to lose their appetite.
	Today, a reporter It was a recording by the Eatonville Middle School principal informing them a student wrote a kill list targeting 10 others.
	I think we need one too.
	He's a kill list.
	I don't know a kid, a five-year-old.
	He's got a kill list.
	And assuring parents like Crystal Nickra their kids were safe.
	Yeah, it was scary, but I think they covered it really well.
	It's big news.
	Such a small town, you know.
	The principal asked parents to keep their kids off social media.
	I've just been mentioning here and there.
	But many can't help it.
	Thirteen-year-old boys don't have the best judgment in the world, but our officer felt that it was serious enough that we needed to follow through.
	A thirteen-year-old kid.
	Some thirteen-year-old kid who's having issues because he's a teenager and hates a bunch of people, including some girls.
	I've got a kill list!
	Wrote a kill list because it seemed like a good idea at the time because it would be fun.
	Yeah.
	And of course the president doesn't.
	Yeah.
	If the president does it, why can't I do it?
	I mean, I got the little drone model, the predator drone off the Amazon site.
	I mean, come on!
	You need a kill list to go with that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's been a bunch of weird...
	News stories about these high school and middle school kids are going crazy.
	Oh, I know.
	I know.
	And it's one to the other.
	It's just, you know, the kid's got a little bubble gun that shoots, you know, soap bubbles and aimed at it.
	Yeah, well, of course.
	What happened to the days, of course, I harp on this, when they used to have rifle clubs.
	Kids used to learn how to shoot.
	They learned gun safety in high school, which is a good time to learn gun safety.
	Because that's when kids, if they get a hold of a gun, they mishandle them.
	And people accidentally get shot.
	So gun safety is a good thing to teach in schools.
	But no, we can't teach gun safety because guns, by definition, are horrible.
	No, they're not.
	This is what we do.
	They're only horrible in the wrong hands when they look scary.
	Yeah, it's, you know, Miss Mickey is so sweet.
	You know, she did something really sweet, but at the same time very tricky.
	So she's cleaning out the office, because we're moving in eight days, and she finds some note I wrote to her.
	Was it a kill list she found?
	She found my kill list.
	And she says, I love you so much, I'm going to give you your Valentine's gift now.
	I'm like, what?
	She bought me, not only did she buy me a great gift, but now I have to do something for Valentine's Day.
	It's a trick.
	Oh, these women.
	It's so sweet and I love her so much.
	But she tricked me!
	Of course, now I'm like, oh crap, how many days do I have?
	Four?
	Three, really.
	What did she get you?
	I'm not going to tell you because you'll only ridicule.
	It's a beautiful gift.
	Is it up for ridicule?
	You're shy about telling me because you know I'm going to laugh?
	Here's the deal.
	I will say nothing.
	Promise?
	Promise.
	I will say nothing.
	The reason why is because you are the most insensitive, unromantic dude I know.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Is that your setup?
	No, that's why I know you would just ridicule my gift.
	I consider myself a normal male.
	And this is what's wrong with America, ladies and gentlemen.
	This is exactly it.
	I'll take a picture of it.
	I'll show you later.
	It's an art piece.
	It's a beautiful art piece.
	You can't describe art.
	No, it's not a photo.
	She should take photos and give those away.
	It's a physical art piece.
	It's a beautiful piece of art.
	It's a giant dildo.
	See?
	This is what I mean.
	This is exactly what I mean.
	There's something romantic.
	There's something beautiful.
	John's like, dildo.
	I didn't laugh.
	I just said I was a dildo.
	Tell me I'm wrong.
	No, you're wrong.
	It's not a dildo.
	Why would you even think this?
	You're a disgusting man.
	So, talking about thinking weird stuff, what is the point?
	I was just watching C-SPAN again.
	In fact, I probably have a clip of it.
	Here.
	She actually drops the bomb at the end here, and I went and looked all this stuff up, and I'll be darned.
	She's right.
	Play Sigtark.
	SIGTARP. Here's what I'm going to recommend to you, Charles.
	One of the things that you can start to track, who we are investigating where there's been something public, like a criminal charge and arrest, someone that has actually been convicted and going to jail.
	And we put out press releases on all of those.
	And I'll encourage you to go to our website, www.sigtarp.gov, and look at that.
	And what you can do is you can actually sign up to receive our press releases so that you can see each time we do this.
	And like we said, 120 people have already been criminally charged as a result of our investigations.
	SIGTARP, Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program.
	And you go down to press releases, there are tons, tons, I'm telling you, of bankers who have been arrested and are in jail, and this has been going on for years.
	Since 2011, I've got a banker right here that's in jail.
	Wow!
	And why are we given the meme that no banker has gone to jail?
	Well, let's see.
	So February 1st, we've sent a chairman of debt collection agency sentenced to five years in prison.
	Yeah, but he's not a banker.
	There's bankers on this list.
	When you go down to press releases, there's all kinds of them.
	Okay.
	Former United Commercial Bank officials charged with securities fraud.
	Former Buffalo Housing.
	Unfortunately, they've got everybody in here, so you have to separate the bankers.
	Wait a minute, so are they the ones?
	Former Colonial Bank Senior Vice President, sentenced to eight years in prison.
	Nice.
	I mean, it goes on and on.
	So I'm looking at this, and she was on talking about what she does.
	She's the inspector general.
	This is Christy Romero?
	Yeah.
	And she's talking about all the, she mentioned, what, 180 arrests?
	It's like, why is the meme, and this is for years, why is the meme out there?
	No bankers have ever gone to jail after the collapse.
	Now, a lot of this wasn't because of the collapse.
	This was because of TARP when they saved.
	But the original TARP, I think, was during the collapse.
	There are bankers in jail.
	Let's start with that.
	I think what they would like to see is the guy that's the head of Goldman Sachs in jail, but that's not going to happen.
	Hey, Christy Romero is kind of cute.
	Yes.
	Yeah, she's a little serious.
	One eye is a little...
	Lazy is a lazy eye.
	It's looking a little off-center there.
	She's kind of cute.
	Yeah, well...
	I like my...
	You like your investigators to be cute.
	Yeah, I want it to be like CSI. Come on, I want them to be hot-looking.
	Okay, but she's also taking credit for the $1 billion fine against the Bank of America.
	Is that also this outfit?
	Is she doing that as well?
	Really?
	Interesting.
	What's her story?
	She was actually in a bunch of different...
	She's a government hack, essentially.
	Lifetime?
	Lifetime.
	I think she's a lifer.
	Hold on a second.
	What's going on?
	We've got to take a look.
	I'm surprised you don't already have a link ready for me about her.
	Does she have her own wiki entry?
	Yes, she does.
	No, she doesn't.
	What the hell is this?
	She doesn't have her own page?
	Well, she's not a big, she's not a high profiler.
	In fact, obviously, we think there's no bankers that have ever been arrested and put in jail.
	The public relations aspect of SIGTARP is, I think this is, you know how every time there's some wire fraud that's done by a computer hacker, this is a known fact amongst the computer community, especially the high-end guys.
	Yeah.
	and somebody steals like, you know, $100 million from the system and then gets away with it.
	Yeah.
	Never gets publicized.
	Right.
	No, because it will encourage people to, you know, take a look at the possibilities here.
	I think this has been, I think this is purposely covered up, not because it will scare bankers or keep people out of the business or make people look...
	If you see all these bankers getting thrown in jail, you'll think less...
	You'll have not pleasant thoughts about your own banker.
	I think this is a complete reverse publicity stunt that took place right under our noses and nobody's picked up on it.
	Well, but honestly, it's not like they've done a great job No, but it is ongoing.
	I mean, by the time this is done, there could be a thousand people thrown in the slammer.
	And by the way...
	Oh, never mind.
	What?
	I was...
	What?
	I noticed that you didn't find this woman in the Wikipedia, but I think Crystal Ball is...
	Gee, I wasn't looking at Crystal Ball.
	I was looking at Miss Romero here.
	She's very...
	Very interesting.
	She's very low-key.
	Very low-key.
	So Crystal Ball...
	No, screw Crystal Ball.
	Crystal Romero is more my type.
	She's a businesswoman, it says.
	Crystal Ball?
	No, I'm looking at...
	Maybe there's a...
	Here, the Special Inspector General.
	There must be some kind of...
	Here we go.
	Special Inspector General nominated Specialist.
	Prior to being sworn in, she was positioned to as Deputy Special Inspector.
	Okay, got it.
	She served as Chief of Staff.
	Okay, what did she do before then?
	Oh, she was at the SEC, eh?
	Right, yes, she was working as a lawyer.
	Okay, so she picks and chooses her targets.
	Come on, John.
	She's no hero.
	I never said she was.
	I'm just telling you that there's bankers that have been arrested.
	That was my point.
	Okay.
	Yeah, there's bankers that have been arrested, but only the guys who are troublemakers.
	It's like, play along with the gang.
	There have been bankers who have been arrested, and the meme is bankers have not been, no banker's gone to jail.
	You saw the movies.
	Correct.
	Right at the end, no banker's ever gone to jail.
	Yeah, this is incorrect.
	That's what I'm pointing at.
	I don't care about this woman.
	She's just another government hack.
	That's what I said.
	She's a permanent, she's a lifer in the government.
	She comes and goes from here to there and whatever.
	Okay, so I've got it.
	I'm in agreement.
	Step back.
	So, I don't like your analysis of why.
	This is what I want to work on.
	Because, you know, the movie, I saw the movie, too.
	I thought the documentary was great.
	The thing that bothered me, Matt Damon was doing the voiceover.
	That, to me, right there says, this cannot be a clean documentary.
	I would agree with that.
	And, obviously, it's an Obama bot.
	Big time.
	So, let's step back for a second.
	Why is the meme being propagated?
	I'll tell you one part.
	The media is stupid.
	That's one.
	But our show establishes this.
	Yes, but that's why it's like, no bankers gone to Geneva!
	But how come Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone, who is apparently the hero of revealing all that is wrong, I think that it is meant to keep us busy, keep our wheels spinning.
	And at the same time, you've got to throw some guys in jail.
	Because they were obviously, even if you're on the bad side, the mob kills their own all the time.
	It's like, hey, why take the risk, right?
	You've got to off some guys.
	Why take a chance?
	You've got to off the guy once in a while.
	You've just got to take care of some business.
	But I think that this is one of these successful memes that was launched and the media just, they're stupid.
	It just shows you how lame it is.
	All it is is crystal balls reading teleprompter.
	That's what the news is.
	So, yeah, well, this is a very good find.
	And do they have an RSS feed?
	Can we subscribe to their...
	I don't know, maybe.
	Let me try.
	Go to this website.
	You know, it's one of those $8 million websites.
	No, no feed.
	But every time they do anything, they send out a press release, and nobody apparently gives a crap because nobody picks up on any of these press releases.
	Yeah, but I wanted to see there's no...
	Fuck, I can't believe there's no RSS feed of their press releases.
	You know...
	Why can't we get a gig in D.C.? We'd be so good at just a couple of these things.
	Can you imagine the two of us consulting on this sort of thing in D.C. and what we'd turn into?
	Rich!
	Well, that, yeah.
	Rich!
	Beyond our wildest dreams!
	That's true.
	But again...
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Hey, John, I'm in the Maybach.
	Partial douchebags, that would push us over the top.
	Listen, John.
	Listen, John.
	When I'm calling you from the Maybach, okay?
	Then we'll worry about what we've become.
	Have you watched House of Cards, by the way?
	Are you familiar with this phenomenon?
	I don't know about it.
	It's all been released.
	I have not downloaded an episode yet.
	This is a Netflix show.
	Yes, yes.
	First show they've ever done.
	It's got Kevin Spacey, who's, I guess, one of the producers, and he decided to act in it so he could get somebody to watch the thing.
	Let me tell you something.
	Kevin Spacey is an interesting guy because he does all kinds of experimental stuff.
	And I think this show, besides the fact that it's a very, very well-written show, well-produced, I'm totally into it.
	I think Netflix is genius for releasing the whole series in one go.
	Screw it, do whatever.
	This is definitely going to frighten Hollywood, this stuff.
	It really is.
	It's fantastic what is happening.
	Of course, the only problem is I'm still getting my internet through Time Warner Cable.
	That's problematic.
	But it's really, really good.
	Genius.
	But you need to see this because I think it depicts Washington with the lobbyists and the dealing...
	It is exactly what you would want to see from one of these political shows that you can't get from the compromised West Wing, Aaron Sorkin, bull crap.
	What was that HBO series with Jeff Daniels?
	That's all bull.
	The newsroom.
	The newsroom.
	Veep.
	Shit is bad.
	I think this is really credible.
	I mean, it comes pretty close to just the a-hole crap that goes on.
	It has nothing to do with the shittisonry at all.
	You should give it a try.
	I wasn't not going to give it a try.
	I intend to watch it.
	Yes.
	I just haven't...
	I haven't got the Netflix thing working through the system.
	It's so complicated.
	The Netflix thing.
	It's a lot of work.
	I gotta...
	Oh, a wire.
	It requires a wire.
	Really, John?
	What, is it an antenna?
	What are you doing?
	No, I've got to plug in the Netflix.
	I've got a Roku box, which I use.
	No, actually, I'm using a Wii U, and the Netflix is running on that.
	I don't actually have an account.
	JC's got one.
	It's $5 a month.
	How many accounts does one family need?
	We've got two.
	So I just haven't gotten around to it.
	I'm going to watch the thing in its entirety.
	That's so funny.
	Or maybe I'll just watch two of them.
	It's like Portlandia.
	Yeah, you don't have to watch the whole thing.
	Which is an outstanding show, but it's like two episodes.
	You're done.
	Yeah, but this is what's so great.
	You don't have to do a marathon.
	You just watch one or two, and then you go back the next day when you're feeling like it.
	You know, when you're drinking some of that moonshine.
	I've never sat down with any member of this particular family.
	No, that would be because...
	When they start one of these things, we sit for 24 hours and watch the whole thing.
	Let's watch another episode.
	It's 11 o'clock.
	No, come on.
	It's only going to be 40 minutes.
	Just watch it.
	You know, and it's 3, it's 4 in the morning, and we finally go to bed.
	It's a horrible experience.
	Are you all on Adderall while you're doing this?
	Are you all, like, popping pills and, like...
	No, green tea, my friend.
	Green tea.
	Now, do you sit at your house in San Francisco and you watch, do you start simultaneously?
	No, no, I'm in Washington when we go through these marathons.
	I don't like watching television.
	I go on C-SPAN all the time and anyone's around, you know, they go, oh God.
	So, when you're together, then what you guys do is watch movies?
	You don't like go, you know, skeet shooting?
	No, we don't go skeet shooting.
	Or nature walks?
	Have nature walks?
	Do you call me Biff?
	Yeah, Biff.
	Biff?
	Yeah, it's your new name.
	Bring Daphne.
	We're going to be shooting the shotgun today.
	Biff?
	I take it.
	I shall wear it with pride.
	Biff.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	All right, then.
	Skeet shooting.
	I don't know.
	Doing something outdoorsy.
	Nature walk.
	It's cold out.
	Shell hunting.
	I don't know.
	It's cold out.
	Hey, how far are we into the show and we haven't thanked our executive?
	Do we even have an executive producer?
	We have two, actually.
	It's kind of the highlight of the donation segment, which is not up to par.
	No.
	We've got two good executive producers.
	Not okay.
	No associate executive producers at all, but David Foley from Los Gatos, California.
	I want to thank him for coming in with $518.33.
	It's $4.85 for show 85, although it's show 86.
	We got this four plus thirty three thirty three for a podcast license.
	Please check.
	But I believe this gets me to knighthood.
	Recently had the good fortune of huge gains in my stock portfolio.
	All right.
	Sharing the wealth with the best podcast in the unfortunately he says world.
	Wow.
	Hey, you know...
	Universe, my friend.
	So first of all, thank you very much for sharing your good fortune with us.
	As you know, this is your choice.
	You don't have to donate.
	We really appreciate that you're doing that.
	You might want to also just sell all your stock now.
	I have a feeling that now might be a good time.
	Actually, I have an interesting new theory.
	Should we do our second exact before we get into your theory?
	I'll remember.
	Sir Thomas Pugliard...
	In Jafar, I guess.
	Oh, in Manamana.
	He's Manamana.
	Manamana.
	Last two shows have been great.
	Especially 484 with JC doing lots of strange voices and sarcasm.
	Huh.
	I should work on my sarcasm.
	Yeah, and calling me names like Biff.
	Let me start by saying every time I hear a donation from El Cid...
	In Sepulpa, Oklahoma, I have to chuckle.
	My last visit to Sepulpa was for a party that lasted too long and culminated with painful consequences back in 1988.
	Those czars and drones back then, I would...
	Tasers.
	Oh, tasers.
	I'm thinking czars.
	No tasers and drones.
	I would like to have my university student daughter, Heidi, added to the birthday shout-out list.
	She turns 20 on Monday.
	I will also mention she is studying journalism.
	Well, she's taking the vow of poverty then, that's for sure.
	If she's going to be a real journalist.
	With this donation, 3333, which is what it was, this will be the second knighthood in less than one year.
	If I may please pass my second knighthood onward to my daughter, Heidi.
	And she should be known as Dame Heidi of Bulgaria.
	Wait a minute.
	She gets the whole country of Bulgaria?
	No, she's Dame Heidi of Bulgaria.
	Oh, of Bulgaria.
	She refers to her origins.
	Okay, let me write that down.
	Dame Heidi of Bulgaria.
	I need to write that in, otherwise I don't want to do the daming incorrectly.
	No.
	And he needs the Don't Look Over Here, You Will Obey, JCD version, and Job Karma, Top Off, 73s and 88s.
	Yo, same to you, my friend.
	Don't look over here.
	Nothing to see here.
	Ooh, look at that.
	You will obey.
	You've got karma.
	He's the...
	Sir Thomas is the guy in Bahrain.
	Bahrain, yeah.
	Who every once in a while writes us and says, you know that riot that showed on the news under CNN? He says, I was there shopping.
	There wasn't anybody there.
	I was shopping.
	He says, there was nobody there.
	All these riots and these reports from Bahrain are bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	With that change, he'll let us know.
	And as a PR mention, I want to announce that the first compilation CD has arrived at noagendacd.com.
	By train.
	Yes, arrived by train.
	So you can download the actual binary CD files and burn these CD discs.
	They're ISO files. ISO, yep.
	But also downloadable MP3 files.
	So he's created compilation CD.
	And this, we find, is really a fantastic way to hit people in the mouth.
	It even has artwork that you can print out and paste on the CD.
	The January 2012 Alpha Disc is the full intelligence panel Zero Dark Thirty review critique.
	Which, of course, we received the movie as a preview.
	The Beta CD discusses the EU's media pluralism, a great piece of work, if I don't mind saying so myself.
	Actually, great commentary by Daphne Dvorak.
	And the Gamma CD for January 2013 is our conversation on defining the middle class.
	So they've made interesting choices, John.
	Well, that's good because outside editing is useful.
	You see things from a different perspective and you put it together because it's important to you.
	And these will become great evergreen episodes for us to go on vacation.
	Yeah.
	Very, very happy about this.
	Yeah.
	Well, once we get enough of them, we'll definitely go on vacation.
	We don't want too many because that's the easier it is to kill me.
	Don't give John too much to run on.
	Daphne Yoko Dvorak.
	I think Dead Dead Does It would be good.
	Alright, so noagendaCD.com, and of course, thank you very much to our executive producers.
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	This is the choice.
	It is your choice, which is really nice.
	It's completely free.
	If you want to support us...
	We don't do the show and charge you before you listen to the show like the movie industry does.
	Can you imagine if the movie industry had the model that we use, which was free will, and you go see the movie, and if you thought it was any good, you give them money.
	I'm sure Avatar would have still raked in a ton of money.
	But there's plenty of movies.
	That movie sucked!
	I just threw away $20, $40 for the family, $50 with the crappy popcorn.
	I threw away $50 for this movie.
	They're locking you in.
	It's actually very unfair, I think, to the market.
	And they make you do it in a dark room with other people who smell bad.
	I mean, think about the value we give you.
	You get to sit in your own smell, all by yourself, whatever you're doing, however you feel comfortable.
	Well, most people are in trucks.
	Yeah, with gun racks.
	Hey, howdy.
	Welcome to the show.
	Thank you, David Foley, soon to be Sir David.
	And thank you, Thomas Pugliard, who has passed on his night to his daughter.
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	Well, before we move on, we have to mention Dvorak.org slash NA. I'm an idiot.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. That is your only necessary port of entry.
	Is it point of entry?
	Port of entry.
	I think it's port.
	Yeah, it's being port.
	I'm sorry.
	We did that great lineup.
	Port of entry.
	Literally, it was like I had the foreplay and then I forgot to put it in.
	Am I stupid or what?
	No.
	Just forgetful.
	You just forget.
	We do this show in real time on the fly.
	It's very difficult.
	There's not that many superstar professionals that could do this.
	And there's no prompter.
	And there's no prompter.
	So remember we had the conversation about the Dutch politician who said you should save money by peeing in the shower?
	Do you remember?
	Yeah, the goyim.
	I don't know if he was going, but something interesting happened, and I just want to ask the audience, and be honest, and maybe you will too, maybe.
	I think because we had that conversation kind of out there, and it was discussed, and I'm pretty sure everybody pees in the shower anyway, do you feel less guilty about it?
	The other day, I asked...
	Do you actually mull it over at that level?
	Well, Mickey made a joke which made me think about something.
	Because I said, did you take a shower, hon?
	She said, yes, I peed and I blew my nose in the shower.
	And for her to say that...
	That's kind of gross.
	I was like, I wonder if somehow some taboo was broken...
	Where we just now openly discuss what we're doing in the shower.
	I don't think it's something that should be discussed.
	Well, it's not something you'd normally discuss, but because it came up in a political slant.
	And I just think that maybe...
	I was just wondering if other people are listening.
	The audience will answer that question.
	It didn't change my attitude toward peeing in the shower.
	You still do it, I presume.
	You haven't stopped.
	Well, now I put a target up.
	In the morning.
	Right.
	I have a little fun.
	Actually, those little birds that spin when you hit them.
	I forgot to mention artwork on the previous show, episode 485 by Thorin.
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	And a grouse from Dame Cathy.
	Hey, listening to Thursday's show where John said women never donate the show number amount.
	Hello, episode 482.
	I did just that.
	I was mistaken.
	Yes, you were.
	At least we got to hear from Dame Cathy.
	Can we talk Manhunt for a moment?
	Manhunt.
	Manhunt!
	Ha ha ha!
	So, well, here it is.
	Finally, we have what this current administration wanted.
	We have exactly the kind of guy we want on the loose.
	Yeah, that guy.
	I'm telling you, it's exactly right.
	So, of course...
	Well, hold on a second.
	I'm assuming you're probably going the same direction.
	This is the entertainment value of this administration.
	This is better than a TV show.
	Well, I'm expecting Woody Harrelson to pop up at any moment to be the A-hole LAPD cop.
	I mean, this is a Woody Harrelson script.
	Totally Woody Harrelson.
	But what do I love about it?
	There's a manifesto!
	I get hard on this, you know me.
	Just a background to people that don't know what the heck you're talking about.
	Okay.
	So the background is...
	Well, you give the background.
	I got the analysis.
	I read the manifesto.
	Some guy, some character.
	What's his name?
	Do you have his name?
	Yes, I do.
	His name is Chris Dorner.
	Yeah, Dorner.
	This guy, Dorner, was kind of a, I guess he's a mixed-race guy that was in the L.A. Police Department.
	He's black, John.
	He's black.
	He's not mixed-race.
	He's black.
	Well, he looks mixed race.
	Anyway, so is he, was he Sheriff's Department or LA? LAPD. Okay, LAPD. Was fired and he thinks it was like two years ago, 2008 or something.
	2009.
	2009, fired.
	Hey, so far you're doing, so far, you're doing great.
	I'm working it out.
	This is the way we do it.
	So this guy gets fired.
	He thinks it was bullcrap that he got fired for some reason.
	And by the way, they're reopening the case on him.
	By the way, I have all the...
	Just give us the background.
	I've got the story.
	And the guy decided to lay in wait and he killed a cop and some other people and his daughter of the chief of police.
	Then he went on the lam and then he burned up his truck and ran into the jungle.
	John, you know, if I had known any better, I think you're just sitting at home with your hand in your pants like Al Bundy watching CNN because you nailed it.
	That is exactly what has happened.
	Okay, so he, but of course he left a manifesto.
	And you know me, I love me a good manifesto.
	And you like reading them manifestos.
	Oh, I love reading a manifesto.
	And of course, generally speaking on this show, we seldom believe that the manifesto was actually written by the person, and if he's killed before he can explain himself, then we know it probably was written by somebody else, and to show that it was nuts so we could kill him.
	And if it was written by him, I'd be surprised.
	My analysis in this case is this was written by two people.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	And one, I think it was totally written by Chris Dorner.
	And the second part that is so obviously written by someone else, it's hilarious.
	And it comes so out of left field.
	So I don't want to...
	It's only 16 pages, so you can read the thing for yourself.
	But I can give you the gist.
	And what's interesting to me is what is not being discussed...
	In general on the news and how this guy is being portrayed.
	So if we take his manifesto at its face value, this guy sounds like he was a pretty decent guy.
	And he sees an L.A. police officer.
	And by the way, I've received so many emails from former police officers, current police officers who are saying, what this guy wrote makes total sense.
	LAPD, bunch of criminal, sadistic a-holes.
	Generalizing, of course.
	But, you know, he saw one of his fellow officers kick a witness in the face, and he reported him.
	And he said, you know, that was not okay.
	It was totally uncalled for.
	And, of course, you know, and this is the whole Woody Harrelson thing, so you can totally see Woody Harrelson doing that.
	And so then he got bullied, I would say, which kind of fits in the whole thing.
	He got bullied by the force and then eventually got kicked off.
	But they called him nigger, but they kept doing that just to mess with him.
	And then he has this whole story about the lesbian faction of the LAPD and that they're really frightening and that they're so evil to men.
	And just like the whole...
	It fits the image exactly of what you would think.
	In addition, he says, And this is all in the manifesto, which Anderson Cooper, by the way, received a DVD of with some of the video of testimony, because he obviously thought Anderson Cooper was a straight-up guy, or that he would report on something, keeping him honest, whatever.
	Big mistake there.
	And he's like...
	He said, it's so unconscionable what these people are doing.
	He says, the only thing I can do is I cannot fix it through the legal system, and I'm paraphrasing.
	I cannot fix it by doing the right thing.
	The only way I can fix it is by killing these people because they're evil, and I have to rid the earth of them.
	That's really what's in his manifesto.
	Now, here's where it gets crazy.
	Because all of a sudden, in the middle of this manifesto, which I'm reading, I'm like, oh my God, this is an American hero.
	He's trying to rid, which is exactly what the Obama administration wants.
	What a great story.
	It's got a racial angle.
	It's got a vigilante, homegrown terrorist angle.
	But the only thing that was missing was, oh, and it was written in there.
	He literally says, there's no reason why I should have assault weapons.
	Right.
	This is crazy that I can have a 50...
	Yes!
	In his manifesto!
	He's like, this is crazy that I can have a...
	Can you change the topic just to throw this little piece of publicity, a little piece of propaganda in the middle of it?
	Right in the middle.
	And they expect nobody to notice this is bogus?
	I mean, it's almost...
	It was almost like written in different handwriting with different ink.
	That's how different it is and how it jumps off the page.
	I'm like, oh my god, this makes no sense.
	And then he goes into how beautiful Michelle Obama is and I really love her...
	Her knee bangs.
	Yes, I'm telling you, it's crazy.
	While we're writing this part here, Bill, what do you think?
	We're going to put a plug in for the missus.
	Let me just, what?
	A shell?
	No, listen to this.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	I don't think it's hilarious.
	Listen to this for a second.
	I just have to...
	So this is like halfway through, and he's gone through this whole thing about how evil these guys are and that he's going to take care of it, and he's just got to rid the world of these a-hole cops, and unless they completely come clean on everything and send people to jail, he's just going to keep killing, and he knows he's a dead man walking, but he's like, I can't live with myself.
	This is what I've chosen for.
	This will be justice well served.
	And then...
	If you had a well-regulated assault weapon ban, this would not happen.
	The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives.
	Why does any sportsman need a 30-round magazine for hunting?
	Why does anyone need a suppressor?
	Why does anyone need an AR-15 rifle?
	I mean, seriously.
	And then, Mia Farrow said it best, gun control is no longer debatable.
	It's not a conversation.
	It's a moral mandate.
	Senator Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the reinstitution of a national assault weapons ban.
	And then, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Then right after that...
	He's talking about racism.
	No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat towards the president.
	He's talking about Romney.
	You call his wife a wookie.
	Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs.
	Obama.
	A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent first wives.
	You call his supporters whether black, brown, yellow, or white leeches.
	Now he's talking about the racism against the president.
	So...
	I'm sorry.
	This was written by at least two people.
	And what's crazy is the whole first thing.
	And these cops are freaked out.
	So they see a car.
	They think it's him.
	They riddle this car with 60 bullets.
	It's some woman and her daughter going shopping.
	They're like machine gunning this thing.
	This is how freaked out they are.
	And just imagine Woody Harrelson trying to kill all the cops.
	You know it's not going to end well, but he's going to pick off a couple for sure.
	Well, you know, you'll probably find that he did burn some of his own gear when he burned down his own truck.
	He probably is going to resort to a couple of things.
	One, he could just disappear.
	If he spent over two years, maybe three, he spent at least three years, he obviously dreamed up an escape path.
	Can I just say something?
	Okay.
	Now, this is an African American.
	I have lived, and I am half African American.
	My ass is so black.
	I have lived with African Americans.
	I have lived in the culture.
	And this is not a white dude.
	White dudes burn their...
	This is why that was bogative.
	White dudes burn the truck, go in the mountains, through the snow.
	No, no, no.
	Not the black man, John.
	He's sitting in his barco lounger watching this thing on TV. He's chilling, drinking a beer, waiting for his next opportunity.
	The black man is smart.
	He is not like the idiot redneck who's going to go run around in the woods waiting for the drone to come catch him.
	Not how this was working.
	Running around the woods, that's where he disappeared.
	I think it's fine that you know a black man, but I think more importantly...
	I know more than one black man.
	This guy, I don't believe he went to some barca lounge and he's sitting around drinking beer.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I think he's had a complete plan.
	He was an educated man, an escape route, and he is not anywhere to be found.
	He might be sitting on a Barker lounger, but it's not in the L.A. basin.
	Yes, it is.
	Yes, it is.
	He is right in the zone.
	He's waiting.
	He's right in the zone.
	This guy, first of all, he can't go anywhere.
	The guy's 250 pounds.
	Everyone knows what he looks like.
	He's not going to be walking around.
	He's chilling out.
	He's waiting.
	And he's going to strike.
	And the cops know it.
	And they know he's right, by the way.
	I'm generalizing, but I'm pretty sure we can say with some authority that the LAPD is a cesspool of corruption and poor anger management and hurting people.
	And I would say most of my black brothers and sisters in L.A. will be the first ones to attest to that.
	I've lived in Los Angeles.
	I've lived in Los Angeles.
	It's crap.
	And I'm getting emails from police officers.
	Of course there's good cops.
	Of course.
	Obviously I'm generalizing.
	But wow.
	The LAPD specifically.
	Specifically.
	So, I think the guy's a hero.
	I don't like the way he's doing it, but, you know, he has the right idea.
	This is what's going to happen.
	This is how the Civil War starts.
	This is not an insignificant moment, this guy.
	This is not an insignificant moment.
	And that they try and spin this with, you know, the assault weapons ban.
	Oh, well, okay, that was well written, well played.
	Unfortunately, the mayor is not even bringing that up properly.
	Where is it here?
	This is a very sick individual, as we can see by the three people he's already killed, the one seriously injured.
	See, he's already saying he did it.
	You know, the news media is not even saying that.
	The news media is saying allegedly.
	He's right.
	He's in it.
	Villagoso is just saying he did it.
	And the threats that he's made to everybody else.
	I give no credence whatsoever to anything this man says.
	Yeah, especially the part about, you know, the Rodney King cops having made captain and running the show.
	It sounds right.
	And as you already said earlier, they're reopening the case.
	Chief Beck has directed that the Los Angeles Police Department reopen the investigation into the allegations that Officer Dorner made while he was on the department, those allegations that resulted in him being terminated.
	So what do you think?
	Is that sincere, or are they just doing that just to really somehow say the guy is off his rock or even what he wrote in the manifesto?
	What do you think?
	I think they're sincere about investigating.
	What do you think?
	They're going to come out with some reports saying it's all bullcrap.
	The guy was nuts.
	He had mental problems.
	He was checked into a psych ward.
	It was a known fact.
	He was violent in the locker room.
	Nobody liked him because he was a nutball.
	And there's going to be a whitewash or a blackwash, as it were.
	And he's not going to find anything.
	Not if what everyone says is true, that the whole place is just rife with corruption.
	That would mean even the investigation is going to be corrupt, so it's not going to happen.
	I mean, we could put money on it, but I'm pretty sure that's what's going to be the case.
	Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work day in, day out with the sole intent of attempting to prove you're mis...
	misandrist?
	Mis...
	misogynist?
	No, he says misandrist.
	Well, he spelled it wrong.
	Misandrist authority to degrade male officers, you are a high-value target.
	That's right.
	Shoot the lesbians!
	Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned, other officers participating in on a daily basis, but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing.
	Why?
	Because of your usual saying, I don't like conflict.
	you are a high value target as well those of you who go along to get along have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage you are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct you are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore citizens non-combatants do not render medical aid to downed officers enemy combatants they would not do the same for you They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers.
	They had a 187 caper the other day and can't wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas.
	As they always say, that's the paramedic's job, not mine.
	Let the balance of loss of life take place.
	Sometimes a reset needs to occur.
	This is a good read.
	It is something you should read.
	Are you going to have it in the show notes?
	Of course.
	It's jarring to read this, but when you read that cops let you bleed out because they know they're going to get paid overtime because it's more paperwork.
	And by the way, I know some paramedics who will tell me the truth if cops are like that, not just in L.A., but in other places.
	And by the way, they're just human beings who become completely enslaved to the corrupt system.
	Well, cops do.
	They're basically enslaved to overtime, that's for sure.
	You want to see a bunch of cops get irked to take away all overtime for police officers.
	I feel really horrible about this because I have friends who are law officers.
	I have friends who are in all forms of government.
	So the generalization is where you go wrong.
	But holy moly, it really has gotten pretty bad.
	Well, we just never heard anything good about the Los Angeles Police Department.
	And where did that come from?
	How did that happen?
	How does that happen specifically?
	Well, you go back to those old movies.
	I mean, they used to portray the L.A. Police Department as correct in between.
	Because of the movies?
	It happened in the movies?
	No, I'm just saying.
	You can go back to those old movies.
	I think those are mostly pretty much documenting the problem with the L.A. Police Department.
	It goes back to the founding of L.A. L.A. is a corrupt place.
	It's logical that it would have a corrupt police department.
	It's corrupt in all kinds of different ways.
	I always get the biggest kick out of talking about the way people are in L.A. and they can't tell the truth for more than a couple of minutes.
	Do you know someone who can tell the truth for a couple of minutes in L.A.? Okay, you're right.
	I couldn't find anyone.
	Who is that?
	I'm hopeful.
	Yeah.
	So this whole thing...
	This is...
	It's kind of a Red Book thing.
	This is not insignificant.
	This is the start of something that we're going to see more of.
	I think they're putting all their efforts into tracking this guy down and killing him before...
	Before it catches on.
	Before, you know, their t-shirts and people are like, go, man, go!
	Because he's black, dude.
	The black community is probably going, yeah!
	Do you know what this kindles in a place like Los Angeles is?
	Los Angeles is a tinderbox.
	Yeah.
	That's what it does.
	And this is what they've been practicing for with their military crap and their helicopters and their shooting and shooting over cities.
	This is exactly what it's for.
	For the manhunt.
	It's for the freaking manhunt, dude.
	Did I say dude?
	Yeah, I didn't comment on it.
	You know why?
	I'll tell you why.
	We had an interesting guest over Friday night.
	It's a Friday night?
	Yeah, Friday night.
	A couple of friends came over for our last little dinner party here at the house, because we're leaving the house.
	And it's one of these where, you know, it's like, yeah, we're bringing along, you know, my boyfriend or whatever.
	I'm like, I'm a private person.
	And I said to Mickey, I said, what?
	You're a private person, you said?
	Yeah.
	But you don't mind talking about peeing in the bathroom?
	The bathtub.
	But in my house, I don't just want anyone in my space.
	Oh, okay.
	Go on.
	You know me.
	You know that I'm kind of like you.
	I like to archive.
	I like to scrapbook.
	I'm an archivist.
	I'm an archivist.
	I like to scrapbook and be left alone.
	And so, you know, the guy comes over, and he seems like a nice enough guy, and we're talking, and I say, what's with the tattoos?
	And he says, oh yeah, that's Tesla.
	And he has Tesla's face tattooed on his arm, but like really beautiful.
	And then Gandhi...
	And Elvis.
	Was he dating Tesla?
	How old is this guy?
	No, he wasn't dating Tesla.
	And I'm like, oh, this is interesting.
	So I'm like, oh, Tesla.
	And so we're talking, because of course Tesla is the unsung hero of radio, of true forms of energy, of wireless electricity, all kinds of great stuff.
	But particularly the radio stuff is very, very interesting.
	And I said, what do you do?
	He says, well, you know, documentary, filmmaker.
	I'm like, okay.
	Don't you love it?
	Documentary, filmmaker.
	I'm like, okay, Mia Farrow, what are you doing?
	He did the DMT, the spirit molecule.
	A Deafening Silence.
	This was a very successful documentary.
	I've never heard of it.
	So his name is Mitch Schultz.
	And there was a book called The Spirit Molecule.
	And he went on this quest and in five years did this documentary.
	You know what DMT is, obviously.
	Dimethyltryptamine, to be exact.
	Correct.
	And have you ever done dimethyltryptamine?
	I don't discuss drug usage on the show, but I can say with honesty that I've never actually used DMT. Okay, I have.
	Yeah, I know.
	You brag about it.
	Well, I'm not bragging about it, but it's the only other drug that I've done outside of marijuana.
	It qualifies as pretty much everything else.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, if you did DMT, from all descriptions, it's pretty much like everything.
	I mean, it's like a massive...
	It's like doing mushrooms on top of acid, on top of mescaline, on top of peyote mushrooms.
	No, so you don't know anything.
	So you could probably do anything.
	You could probably, right now, you could be stoned for all, I know.
	In fact, I smoked some DMT just before the show.
	But this...
	And Rogan is in this.
	Rogan kind of...
	Joe Rogan.
	Joe Rogan?
	Yeah.
	Is the name of the drug?
	No, the podcaster.
	He talks about DMT? Yeah, he's in it.
	You'll like it.
	You will like this documentary.
	Get on with the story.
	Well, that's how we got into this whole dude thing, because the audience knows what I'm talking about, and you haven't seen this.
	If you have ever taken DMT, which I highly recommend you do, John, this will change your outlook on the universe in general.
	Okay.
	Are you writing drug use?
	Are you writing it down?
	Memo to self.
	Smoke some DMT. Clean up office.
	Smoke DMT. Take some DMT. I would just say, yeah, I am...
	By the way, you don't get synthesized stuff.
	It comes from a plant, so I'm perfectly okay promoting the smoking of weed.
	I'm perfectly okay with eating mushrooms, although I've never done it.
	It's a natural thing.
	Do whatever you want.
	I'm just saying, every person in their life should have at least once experienced DMT. I did it three times in my life, and I have no...
	Urge to go and do it again because I know that I am on DMT all the time.
	That's the whole point of the documentary.
	It's very deep stuff.
	And this is why I never tell you anything personal or with feeling or romance because you ridicule.
	No, I don't.
	You're ridiculing right now.
	But this is very, very important.
	Yes!
	This is very, very important.
	So this guy...
	No, I can't say this for sure.
	He's on LinkedIn, so I'm looking at him.
	So I see he's got tattoos all over his arms, and he's bald.
	Yes.
	He's a writer, director, culture architect.
	Well, it's funny because he said that we laughed about it.
	He said, I used to suck corporate cock for a living.
	I said, oh, that was my job too.
	And he had all this agency.
	He's done a lot of agency stuff.
	But he gave up to do this documentary.
	And now he's doing documentary on Tibet.
	And he made money on this.
	He gave 40% back to his investors.
	How's his style?
	His style?
	Yeah, his documentary style.
	Is it any good?
	It's very good.
	It's very good.
	No, you'll like it.
	I wouldn't recommend it to you if it wasn't good.
	He's gotten 40% back to his investors?
	Profit.
	Yeah.
	That's not bad.
	Yeah.
	He's a very interesting guy.
	But that's why I said dude.
	But anyway...
	Does he drink wine?
	He does.
	Indeed.
	He was very interested in the No Agenda Moonshine, which I offered to him.
	Did you give them a straight shot of it?
	No, I cut it with water, mainly because I'm just stingy, because I'm out.
	No, no, you'd kill us.
	You'd kill somebody giving them 180 proof.
	I'm out.
	I need another bottle.
	I haven't heard.
	Have you heard from our distiller?
	From our moonshiner?
	From our distiller?
	Have you heard from the distillery recently, John?
	No, no, Biff.
	But I expect you shortly.
	Biff, listen, Daphne, I will have none of this.
	So anyway, yes.
	Whether you decide to experiment in it or not, I would recommend watching this documentary and reading the book that it was based on, which is not his book.
	The documentary will give you all you need to know.
	It's really good.
	Okay.
	Fine.
	Would you do some DMT with me?
	No, never.
	Really?
	No, not in a million years.
	You'd never do it or just not with me?
	I wouldn't do...
	I don't know.
	Why would I do it with you?
	What are we going to do?
	Kiss?
	Find somebody else.
	Mitch, maybe.
	It's your new boyfriend.
	You're really, really misunderstanding DMT. It's not ecstasy.
	It's not like, hey, John, let's do some E together.
	No!
	No!
	I love you, man.
	I really love you.
	In fact, next time, and I'll get off the topic, next time you're up with the family, instead of watching...
	What is it you watch?
	Parks and Recreation or whatever you're watching with the family?
	Yeah, that's it.
	Try to watch all of the Parks and Recreation because this show is so compelling.
	Instead of watching that, just do DMT with the whole family.
	I'm telling you, you've homeschooled your kids.
	Come on, you can add this.
	This is great.
	Okay.
	So anyway, onward.
	Onward with maybe some topics that people care about.
	I think people really care about this.
	It's like you're finally getting your thing, you stopped smoking the pot and now you're reminiscing about old drug days?
	You know, it's great.
	Everyone should use it.
	I heard that about the University of California.
	Not one drug in the world has never had one of these acolytes.
	It's not about how great it is.
	Everyone should take it.
	The world would be a better place.
	You're misunderstanding what I'm saying, so I'm going to just say it one more time.
	Once you understand, and I think you will even understand from viewing the documentary, that your consciousness is the only thing that keeps you from seeing through the matrix that has been created around us.
	I know you were already there because you do this freaking show with me twice a week.
	I disagree because the No Agenda show accomplishes the same thing.
	Yeah, but DMT only lasts 20 minutes.
	This fucking thing goes on forever.
	So we talked about the last show.
	Yeah.
	The Bond Collapse.
	Yes.
	I'm very curious because I'm reading...
	And now, it's got a name.
	Oh, yes.
	I can play it.
	Don't say it.
	I can play it.
	Clients to get ready for the Bondpocalypse.
	The Bondpocalypse!
	UBS is planning a mass mailing to many of its brokerage clients, alerting them that they have been reclassified as aggressive investors following a recent change in its market outlook that some people inside the firm say reflects growing bearishness in the bond market, particularly over the long term.
	So, Max, why are they reclassifying clients as aggressive?
	If you were a client or if you were the broker sending out this letter, what is going on here?
	Right.
	Well, when you open an account at a brokerage firm, per the laws of, going back to 33 and 34, the know-your-customer rules, you have to...
	Fill out what the profile of the customer is, whether they're conservative, whether they're aggressive.
	And typically, if they are conservative, then they would migrate over to the bond market, which are perceived to be conservative investments.
	However, now that we've had round after round of quantitative easing, and you've created this enormous bond bubble here in the U.K. and in the United States and around the world, the sovereign bond bubble, UBS knows that the bond apocalypse is upon us, that bond prices like in 1994 will drop not that bond prices like in 1994 will drop not just 25%, but 50%, 60%, 70%.
	So they're preemptively going in and they're reclassifying all their customers who have checked conservative bond investor.
	They've just, without really having a discussion with those customers, they should be telling those customers to get out of bonds.
	But instead, they're just changing the classification of those customers from conservative to high risk.
	So that when the bonds collapse, as they most certainly will, then they can claim, well, the customers indicated they were for risky investments.
	So they're preactively making a legal maneuver ahead of the lawsuits that are coming their way because they put them into bonds knowingly that they will collapse.
	It's amazing that the bank is treating their customers again.
	This is another mis-selling scandal.
	This is the mis-selling scandal of 2014.
	This is the PPI scandal of 2014.
	This is the, you know, name the scandal of this year.
	Interest rate swap selling.
	The interest rate swap scandal of 2014.
	This is a huge scandal.
	We're seeing the birth of a massive scandal right now.
	UBS, a crooked bank in a crooked country with crooked bankers, committed crooked fraud once again.
	So...
	So, bondpocalypse.
	What happened to Venezuela's bonds with the devaluation of their peso?
	I don't know what happened.
	Or shekel.
	Well, they devalued 43%.
	Yeah.
	So does that do anything to the Bonds?
	I mean, I'm...
	Oh, now you brought up another topic.
	Well, should we start with...
	Let's stay with Bondpocalypse.
	My problem with this clip is Max Keiser yells too much at me.
	Actually, Max Keiser has gotten into...
	Here's what I think is going on with this guy.
	Yeah.
	I think he's on a lot of trends, and I think he's right in pointing out that there's criminal activity going on.
	But the shouting thing, I'm absolutely convinced, comes from Jim Cramer.
	Jim Cramer makes more money on CNBC shouting and going berserk on his show, whatever it is.
	I forget the name of it.
	But anyway, Cramer yells the whole time, and he does so well, and he's so popular, and people really love watching him go crazy, that I think Max Keiser's trying to be Jim Cramer.
	Right.
	And it's ruining him, because it's not his personality, and he's...
	He's actually more of a cynical guy than Kramer.
	Kramer's just a stock nerd.
	Well, I like his general message, I like, but then when he starts yelling and yelling, it's much cooler in his case, because he's a mainstream whore.
	I mean, he goes on all the mainstream shows.
	So that's always suspicious to me.
	It's just suspicious to me.
	And I'm still waiting for the huge...
	It's like Max Keiser's like, oh, J.P. Morgan, they can't deliver the physical silver, the physical silver, the physical silver.
	It's going to go to 80.
	I'm still waiting for that.
	Yeah, he's...
	Well, he's a gold bug.
	And he sells gold and silver on his website.
	Yeah, he's a gold bug.
	That's strike two.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I'm not saying that this is not...
	I'm not going to argue against any of these points.
	I agree.
	He shouldn't be shouting like he does because he's ineffective.
	If he was an effective shouter, that would be okay, but he's not.
	He's an ineffective shouter trying to be like Jim Cramer.
	It's obvious to me.
	And I don't like gold bugs telling me what to do because they have a vested interest.
	I mean, that's one of the things about our show.
	If you go on and on about gold, it's not because we're selling gold.
	We don't have anything.
	We're not selling anything.
	We're selling the show.
	I am selling some DMT, by the way, after the show in the foyer.
	He's got bottles of it.
	Bottles, yeah.
	Straws.
	Anyway, yeah, what's strike three then?
	Well, there's no strike three.
	I still like him.
	I still like him.
	No, you actually, strike three would be that he shows up on too many mainstream media shows.
	That was two.
	That was two.
	No, that was one.
	No, I thought you had three, because you had shouting.
	Well, no, that's not a strike.
	You had gold, and you had showing up on too many TV shows.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Even Time Warner gives you six stripes these days.
	So I'm just going to say, the shouting is okay.
	It's the showing up on the mainstream TV shows all the time, like Alex Jones, which then you are being used, willingly or not, you're being used as a puppet to show that alternative media are idiots.
	Actually, we are the mainstream, of course, now, but that's a little secret.
	So doing that, you're only doing it for your own ego and maybe to sell some more.
	You might be doing it to sell a book.
	Or some golden shekels.
	Yeah, exactly.
	To sell a book.
	Exactly.
	I mean, that's one of the things.
	Well, I should do this.
	People always ask me, I had somebody telling me I should do TED. I worked my way, because I know Chris Anderson.
	Yeah.
	But...
	I said, why?
	What would I bring to the party?
	An 18-minute crummy speech?
	I got nothing to sell.
	Where's my book?
	Should I tell you something funny?
	No, no, no.
	I want to tell you something funny.
	I was at Halcyon yesterday with Mike and Jane who listened to the show, producers, and they're talking about doing a Kickstarter to help John get a book published, any book.
	Just print something!
	Just print something!
	They're like, we'll do a Kickstarter, just whatever.
	We don't care.
	Because they're waiting.
	They're like, where's the egg book?
	Where's the salt book?
	Where's the book with no agenda art?
	Where's the cycles book?
	They're excited.
	They want to do a Kickstarter, crowdfunded, to have you publish any book.
	Any book whatsoever.
	I'll get back on the stick.
	Okay.
	I thought it was very cute.
	I got all these great things in the can.
	But I'm just saying, people love you so much.
	They have such deep respect for you that they're willing to go raise...
	It's like, you're not homeless.
	They're willing to go raise money to help you publish the book because they know that there's obviously some mental issue.
	I believe that's true.
	I have some mental issues I can't resolve.
	No amount of drugs or psychotherapy seem to help.
	Anyway, I would participate in that.
	I'd be like, man, this is a great Kickstarter.
	Okay, so let's go back to the psychotherapy you were supposed to remind me about.
	Onward.
	Let me see.
	There's one other thing here.
	Well, so the Bonpocalypse, which you say is possibly coming in October, because that's a good time for it to happen.
	October would be good, and March of 2014 would be good, too.
	Both of those are great months for crashes.
	Because I had listened and you said, you know, more multimillionaires and billionaires are going to be created in this bond collapse.
	But, you know, then I hear Max Keiser and I immediately get heebie-jeebies like, oh, now I don't feel like I want to invest in some downward spiral, all of my $100.
	Well, the funny thing is, you know, logically, I think anybody who's been in the market for very long knows that it's a bubble because you cannot...
	The bonds can't go any higher because right now they're paying such low interest.
	Right.
	The only way they can go higher is by paying lower interest, but they're almost at zero.
	Yeah.
	You have to start collecting interest.
	Like, hey, you got that bond, you owe me.
	No, really.
	If you go any higher, that means you have to be constantly giving them money.
	Yeah.
	Instead of them paying you dividends, you have to pay to own the...
	Well, you know, your subscription needs another renewal fee here, buddy.
	It's like, what?
	You got to pay some more.
	It's like an extortion scheme.
	So that's not going to happen.
	And we do know that real inflation, according to the ShadowStats guys, around 10% is not being reflected in the bond market.
	And so once it gets reflected, it would say to me that bonds could collapse up to 90%.
	Question, question, question.
	So let's say in theory, let's say that I wanted to get a mortgage, which I can't, which they won't give me.
	But let's say in theory, would this be a good time to get a mortgage or a bad time to get a mortgage?
	I think it would be a great time to get a mortgage if you could get one.
	Which is why they won't give it to me.
	Banks all know this is coming.
	That's why they're not loaning money.
	Right.
	Interest rates are the lowest ever.
	Yes, try to get some of that cheap money.
	You can't do it because the banks won't give it to you.
	Because they know that when everything falls to crap that they're going to lose out all this money on those loans.
	Yeah, they're going to not collect, because they can collect maybe 6, 7, 8, 9, 10% on loans if they give them after the bond collapse.
	So they're going to just sit on the money, and they don't care.
	Just sit on it.
	Because the only time in my life when I had a mortgage in the late 80s and 90s, I think I was paying 10% back in those days.
	This is how smart I was.
	So I bought the house for $400,000 MTV days with a $20,000, because I didn't have enough money, $20,000 balloon payment from the owner, which I did pay off.
	And then he died like a year later.
	I'm like, crap, that was dumb.
	And I sold the house for $450,000, I think, in 1999.
	That house today, before the collapse...
	It was like almost $2 million.
	Yeah, that's pretty typical.
	$2 million.
	Now it's still $700,000, $800,000.
	This is me.
	This is my financial prowess.
	Yeah, well, you're like a lifer renter.
	You're a renter.
	And I don't think that's so bad because I get to deduct half of the rent.
	No, you like it.
	You feel much more comfortable.
	Yeah, you're using it mostly as an office, so you can deduct part of the fees, which you can do with the house, too, by the way.
	I know I'm going to wind up eating cat food.
	I know where it's headed.
	Everyone will.
	Yeah.
	You and I are groaned.
	I'll be eating cat food in your house, which you'll own.
	So what?
	So, well, we have extra properties.
	We can put you up in one of them.
	Oh, thank you.
	You're so kind.
	So, while we're on this stuff, Kaiser had a guest on who was going to talk about, apparently, Bill Gates, who I'm now believing he's going to...
	Because Buffett is really his mentor now.
	Yeah.
	He's been hanging around with Buffett for so long that he's starting to...
	And I think he's pulling away from the vaccinations and all the other crap.
	And he's pulling toward...
	The game of financial manipulation.
	I mean, at some point, Buffett looks like he's having more fun than Bill.
	And so he's made the observation that there's all kinds of problems ahead, potential trade wars and some other currency.
	People are starting to devalue the currencies, their own currencies.
	The Japanese are trying their best to devalue their success.
	And before we get to the clip, why do you devalue your currency?
	And how do you do that?
	Because people just talk like so easy.
	I'd love to know...
	Why do you do it and how do you do it?
	Well, how you do it is problematic because you try to do it.
	You don't necessarily accomplish it.
	But you do it by selling your own security short against some other currency.
	So you buy a lot of euros and sell a lot of dollars on the currency exchanges.
	And that would force the euro up and your currency down.
	If you did it, but sometimes they fight on the other side, they do the same thing and nothing happens.
	You just waste a lot of time.
	Right, so the currency war, this is actually, this is the nuclear war.
	In fact, in Venezuela, it's called the nuclear option.
	Once you get into a currency war, then it's literally like...
	Computers, this is how.
	These are computers fighting against each other.
	Because it's not like buying pieces of paper, truck pallets of dollars.
	This is computers, right?
	This is one computer against the other trying to hit the trades at the right moment.
	It's high frequency, big money game.
	Am I correct?
	The way you do currency trading is beyond me.
	It's for the expert experts and it's usually done by governments.
	With computers.
	Yeah, I know, but I don't know if they do high frequency.
	I don't know what their methodology is, but this is what you want to do.
	You want to try to sink your own currency.
	Now, this guy talks about how the Brits are trying to sink theirs.
	They've already done it once.
	And the reason you do it is because if you're in this global economy where you have to, you know, so Caterpillar has to sell tractors to China and China has to buy or sell tractors to us.
	So a Chinese tractor comes over here and a Caterpillar tractor goes over there and it's paid for in whatever currency.
	If your currency is weaker, your prices are lower.
	Right, of course.
	So you have more exports and your economy goes better.
	Right.
	And the local people, just because your currency is weak doesn't mean I'm paying more for a loaf of bread because the loaf of bread price goes down and I got less money so it evens out at the local level but on the international level is where it's fundamentally different.
	But more importantly, do hookers start to look better?
	They start to look better when the economy starts to collapse.
	Okay, so this is not what we want then?
	Well, depends.
	Take me into the clip.
	So this is trade wars and how this could all fall apart because it's not necessarily...
	The way this all works always is a downward spiral and ends up just kind of screwing up all the multinationals.
	It screws everybody except the bankers.
	Is that basically the system?
	That might be true.
	Yeah, trade wars, trade tariffs, quotas, all kinds of surreptitious taxes creeping in around the margin.
	And if you're a complex modern multinational whose operations are highly leveraged and structured to each individual country's advantages, and of course the exchange rates, and of course the trade policies and regimes, guess what happens if all of a sudden these barriers start springing up?
	An efficient multinational becomes an inefficient, unprofitable disaster if the currency wars morph into trade wars.
	and Gates may be sensing just how dangerous this phase is becoming.
	But moving home to the UK, this is a country that devalued very dramatically in 2008, and arguably it needed to.
	This is a financial hub, London.
	The UK's economy is hugely dependent on it.
	When the global financial system faced a crisis, it was only natural that sterling would get whacked and fell about 25% in trade-weighted terms.
	But even that has not prevented stagnation.
	Even that has not led to any real recovery in the UK. The UK is failing to recover.
	They're going to need to devalue again.
	They have every excuse now that Japan and other countries are also doing it.
	It's only a matter of time, and if the current government wants to get re-elected, they'll probably get on with it to try and create some jobs sooner rather than later.
	Well, okay.
	Yeah, I see.
	But there's a different problem there.
	Just from where I stand, the UK makes nothing.
	They make nothing.
	They make financial products, so that's why it's not going well.
	There's people walking around with nothing to do.
	They make the rover.
	Don't get me started.
	You know what I'm saying.
	It's like 60 million people on that island.
	They pretty much don't make enough.
	Well...
	They figure that maybe they'll start making stuff if they...
	But they go on.
	This thing lasted forever, and I can just summarize a couple of points.
	One of them is that they've already tried to devalue and it didn't do any good.
	And both these guys came to the conclusion that, you know, well, it didn't work that time.
	Let's devalue more.
	You know, it's just like this crazy, you know...
	Keep doing it!
	Keep doing it.
	And it doesn't work ever, is what the point is being made, is that these things don't work.
	You can't...
	Control things as much as you'd like to.
	Whatever the case is, it's all going to lead to no good.
	But I did come up with a new thing on my cycles that you were going to remind me about.
	Hey, John, let's talk about that thing about cycles I was going to remind you about.
	It's possible that we won't have a collapse until 2017.
	What?!
	Well, no wonder you didn't release the book.
	You would look pretty stupid.
	No, this is in there.
	This is in the book.
	I do have this element.
	This is the scenario, but I never thought about it.
	I wasn't thinking clearly.
	This is the scenario from 1850 to 1860.
	When we had gold, something to the equivalent of $30 trillion in today's money of gold into the economy, keeping it from collapsing like it should have collapsed.
	Yeah, but hold on a second because that created a whole bunch of jobs because it was physical labor.
	There was that too.
	No, you got jobs and you got wealth.
	And the wealth came out of the blue.
	So it buoyed the economy.
	The natural gas fields in North Dakota and the big one off of the Monterey Peninsula and all the other ones and all the shale oil and all the shale gas and all the crap we're doing today is the exact same equivalent of the gold rush.
	Except...
	In other words, we're getting free money, which is the gas coming out of the ground.
	Essentially free money.
	It puts a lot of people to work to grab that free money, which comes into the economy and bolsters it to the point where we may be energy independent if we just combine Canada and ourselves within the next...
	Ten years, for sure.
	No, I don't think so, John.
	Well, let me finish.
	There's no dream.
	This free money, which is the same as gold for all practical purposes, should keep the economy from collapsing completely until 2017, when it collapsed during the gold rush, too.
	Okay.
	As your publisher, I'd like to say there's a couple things wrong with your thesis.
	You have to go back and rewrite this for the second printing.
	One, I can't believe you actually said gold is like free money.
	I mean, wow, that was just mind-boggling to hear you say gold is money at all.
	Those two words next to each other.
	But gold, at least you could take...
	Well, gold was the standard of the monetary exchange during that era.
	You could take a pan and go...
	Centro dollars is kind of what the standard is today.
	Right, but you could take a pan and go to the stream and find some gold.
	Yeah, free money.
	Yeah, but that is not with gas.
	This is fracking.
	It's a very expensive process.
	The other one was...
	Well, let's face it.
	When gold really started getting pulled out of the ground, there were big operations.
	They were grinding up all the ore, and they were running through sluices that no one guy was going to do.
	I also think that you need to go back and look at how the oil industry really started.
	This was also...
	You could stick a pipe in the ground...
	And oil would come out.
	There was a lot of bonanza.
	We've raped all of that.
	The shale oil is just not as simple.
	It's not a one-guy operation.
	So I have to disagree that that is not, and there's regulation, and Mia Farrow is being complicated, and what's her name?
	Daryl Hannah.
	No, I think you can recall that.
	Right.
	No, those are all barriers.
	And gold, everyone was like, everyone thinks gold is good.
	Let's go get some gold.
	Westward.
	The gold rush.
	The 49ers.
	I don't think thinking it's good or bad really has much to do with the wealth aspect.
	We're not going to have a football team named after the bonanza of shale oil.
	The shale oils.
	The Edmonton Oilers.
	The hockey team.
	What do you think they're named after?
	Donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	Mine and foil.
	In the morning.
	Remember, it's just a choice.
	The Edmonton Oilers.
	Right.
	What is their name from?
	Oil.
	In Canada.
	Well, they get more oil up there, maybe.
	Short list today.
	Yeah.
	Patrick Mackum in Mount Vernon, New York.
	Did he send me an email?
	It's going to be kind of interesting because I don't have the email thing opened.
	Patrick, if you send some, send it again.
	We'll talk about it next week.
	Or next show.
	Lori Swim in Marysville, Kansas.
	$100.
	Thanks for everything.
	ITM from a fellow ham.
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	KG6GZV. I've had a license for over seven or ten years and I'm still haven't made a single contact.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	Did you go to the John C. Dvorak School of Broadcasting?
	I'm contacting you from the oil fields west of Gitmo Nation, Bakersfield.
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	First time donor, I've been a douchebag.
	Is this Lori?
	No!
	No, this is Timothy's email.
	Oh, I'm okay.
	Lori, I don't have.
	Just thanks for everything from Lori.
	I'm reading this.
	I'm befuddled because this is actually from Timothy McCuznick.
	Yeah.
	It's just the way the spreadsheet looks.
	I'm sorry.
	He's in Bakersfield at 8888.
	Anyway.
	And what he needs is an 8888 gets a ham thing.
	That's what the hams want.
	There you go.
	That's the 8888 donation signal.
	Anyway, he's a new donor.
	Lori's been around.
	I've been a douchebag since last year when I got punched in the mouth by Adam during an appearance on Twit when he shocked all the guests by having the nerve to show everyone his gun.
	What nerve that took!
	Then he also pulled out his pistol.
	After that, I just had to check out No Agenda and only missed a couple of episodes since my youngest human resource, Morgan12, likes it so much.
	That's nice.
	Can I get...
	Is Morgan a woman or a boy?
	Is a boy or a girl?
	We don't know.
	You don't know?
	Can I get a Please Don't Eat Me Hillary and a Little Girl Yay for her as a girl?
	Yeah.
	And a woman in...
	You know, Morgan is Jay's middle name.
	Oh, that's fascinating info.
	And a woman in labor karma shot for my oldest human resource, Sydney, who's expecting her first human resource around the 16th.
	Awesome.
	Tim from Biggers.
	All right, Tim.
	Give me a shout-out on 20 meters.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
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	Already I miss her.
	Hillary.
	Oh, I got some inside information from one of our...
	Hitman, economic hitman.
	Oh, okay.
	Who knows her chief of staff.
	Yeah, Uma.
	Huma.
	Couple of things.
	One, she's 5'7".
	She's 5'7", and that should be put into Wikipedia.
	That should be in the Wikipedia.
	5'7 is not very tall.
	No, that's pretty average height.
	I know it's not small, but she apparently looks taller.
	She's taller than she looks.
	She looks like she's 5'5".
	Anyway, she is going to take a long hiatus.
	Yes, that figures.
	For about three or four months, and I think it's going to be mostly to strategize how they're going to put a team together to run her.
	So you probably will miss her because she's going to disappear from the scene for...
	Probably the rest of it.
	But when she comes back, her hair is going to be dynamite.
	You know it's going to be dynamite.
	Should be trim, slim.
	She's going to look...
	It's a Hillary update.
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	Two of twelve.
	Two of twelve.
	I like that.
	That is the kind of...
	It's a code.
	You know it's always saying something very different.
	I guess.
	Brendan Von Stolk in New Westminster, B.C., $70.
	Say my first name only.
	I know the donation says Canada, but it's actually Sushi's in Japan, where public teachers work six days and 12 hours a day.
	No wonder our schools are screwed up.
	They're out working us.
	And where the nightly news is in a tizzy about China having...
	Oh, yeah.
	We didn't talk about this on the show.
	This really got everybody's worked up on the Asian news.
	Apparently, you know, those islands are fighting over.
	Yeah.
	You know about this, right?
	Yeah, the Galakalukalos.
	Yeah, and I mean, you know about the, we all, we talk about the thing, but you know about this where the Japanese ship is going around there and this Chinese ship came along and locked radar on them?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the Japanese got all bent out of, you're locking the weapon systems on us!
	Well, it does kind of suck when you hear that beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
	But don't you think it went like this?
	The Chinese guys say, hey, I got a great idea.
	Watch this.
	Watch this.
	Of course, we have these preconceived notions, again, Hollywoodism, thank you very much, of Top Gun.
	Goose!
	Goose!
	He's got me on the lock!
	Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep!
	That's exactly what...
	And that's the visual I get.
	Who knows what it is?
	You can just say this.
	I'm just going to say...
	I'm going to have...
	This is a great app to have, by the way, on your phone.
	Just go...
	Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep!
	Crap!
	They've got a drone lock on me!
	Take cover, everybody!
	Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep!
	Yeah, how did the phone go off with the noise?
	They got a drone locked.
	They're locked on.
	Oh, they're locked on target.
	Run!
	This is, by the way, this is how the book Kill Decision from Daniel Suarez kind of starts out.
	It's a great read.
	Time to read that book again, people.
	Read your documentation.
	We'd like some love karma for some better luck with the Japanese boys.
	And if it isn't too greedy, some career karma.
	Keep up the great work on the best podcast in the universe.
	Hold on a second.
	Is Brendan a he or a she?
	I think he's referring to business deals.
	I would love some love life karma for some better luck with the Japanese boys.
	Oh, well, maybe it's a guy and he likes Japanese boys.
	I have no idea.
	I just want to know.
	That's all.
	I just want to know.
	I don't know.
	It's fine with me, obviously.
	You've got karma.
	Yes, we know.
	Hello.
	I am bicurious, you know.
	Thomas Lee's in London, 69.
	Oops, hey, where's this thing?
	Bing, bing.
	69!
	69, dude!
	Damn it!
	I was waiting for you to set me up.
	Thank you for the great show.
	It makes this endless slog of traveling to and from work much easier.
	I'm through the final stage of a three-month interview process for a nuclear industry job.
	So please, can I get some Shut Up at Science job karma?
	Absolutely.
	And we really hope you get that gig because I support the industry.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	Science!
	You've got karma.
	Science!
	Science!
	Nathan Souser in Phoenix, Arizona.
	Greetings from Arizona.
	With drones being in the news lately, I'm sure Sheriff Joe will be announcing his plan for Maricopa County-owned drones.
	I wonder if they will be pink.
	My friend Bryce, who punched me in the mouth, needs some getting laid karma.
	Okay, happy to hand it out.
	It's our specialty.
	You've got karma.
	Jason Block in Brooklyn.
	New York.
	Jason Block here.
	I am the Jeopardy champion with the killer resume who is still unemployed after almost two years.
	Oh yeah, he won a ton of money on that Jeopardy.
	Yeah, like 40 grand or something.
	Last night I was catching up on the February 3rd show and woke up at 3.33 this morning.
	Whoa!
	Hello!
	I saw that as a sign to be a donor and not a boner.
	Please dedouche me.
	I would like some job karma for myself and some fuck cancer karma for Katrina Davidson who is suffering from a rare form of cancer called LCH. She's a fighter and hopefully this will help.
	P.S. Since I have co-opted the bullshit and epic fail buttons for my own podcast on the CLW83.com network...
	Consider this a bit of a payment of royalties.
	Love the show?
	Keep hitting him in the mouth.
	What was that?
	That's the fucking cancer, uh...
	Oh, okay.
	Jerry Howard in Montclair, New Jersey, 66...
	Hey, my old hometown!
	ITM mofos from Montclair, New Jersey, nuts.
	Birthplace of Buzz Aldrin, an unfortunate victim of mind control, who believes he walked on the moon over 40 years ago.
	My donation is in honor of my fiancée, Dawn Rosakis, who turns 33 on the 13th.
	She's the 33.
	At the love of my life and her knowledge and passion for the truth is truly humbling.
	Also, smoking hot.
	Please add her to the birthday list and give her some magic number plus LGY birthday karma.
	Dirty please, that's the magic number.
	Wow!
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	You've got karma.
	I didn't know Buzz Aldrin was from Montclair.
	I lived up there on Glen Road.
	Yo, right past Montclair, Kimberly Academy.
	Dimitri Ferozeyev.
	Fedosyev.
	Fedosyev in London.
	Ah, this segment's over.
	Oh! 60.
	Well...
	What happened?
	I don't know.
	It, like, broke.
	Hold on a second.
	I broke it, honey.
	69!
	69, dude!
	Sorry, I don't know what happened.
	It broke.
	Thank you for the show, guys.
	I've been listening for more than three years now.
	Can I get some karma?
	Of course you can.
	Here you go.
	You've got karma.
	Scott Olson in San Diego, California.
	5633.
	ITM Janice and Asterisk.
	Hmm.
	Salutations and well wishes to the minds behind the best podcasts in the universe.
	Let's have a honored and humbled karma.
	Or if that's not available, I'll take a to the climate gate plus shut up at science karma.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	Shut up already.
	Science.
	You've got karma.
	Ooh, sweet combo.
	That was a goodie.
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	You nailed it.
	Mike Bruno in Beachville, Nova Scotia.
	Greetings from Halifax.
	He's actually where he is, but still Nova Scotia.
	Can I get some karma from my fellow Haligonians who are digging out from under the blizzard of 2013?
	You've got karma.
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	Double nickels on the dime from Kevin Ayers in Broomfield, Colorado.
	I appreciate you too, and keep up the good work.
	You know what's funny?
	Because this blizzard happened, and I'm like, perfect opportunity to go check out the hams.
	I couldn't find anyone saving anybody.
	Isn't that what the hams are supposed to be like all over it?
	Yeah, the hams should have been out in Mass.
	Yeah.
	Gary Wiegand in Noblesville, Indiana, $50.
	Mike Madaloni in Chicago.
	In the morning, John and Adam, and greetings from Gitmo Nation's shooting gallery.
	I'm a long-time boner, first-time donor.
	Please give me a dedouching karma for getting my finances in order so I can finally donate and so I can donate more.
	And an in the morning because I can't get enough of it.
	Thank you for all you do and keep hitting them in the mouth.
	We'll do it in that order, sir.
	You've been dedouched.
	You've got karma.
	In the morning.
	And finally, Jason Normandon in Milford, Massachusetts.
	Nuts.
	$50.
	And if he has a note, send it again, please.
	And that's it.
	Yeah, that's it.
	So, well, I'm not going to complain.
	It's your choice.
	You don't have to.
	This is your choice to donate.
	Everything else is free on the program.
	Free.
	As in beer.
	Literally free like Linux.
	Free.
	Are we like Linux?
	Are we the Linux of podcasting?
	It's getting to look that way.
	Yeah?
	Well, we need our kernel recompiled then.
	From time to time, that's good.
	I've been working on some Linux recently.
	You have?
	Yes, I got a Raspberry Pi and I got an Odroid.
	Are you familiar with these products?
	No.
	Really?
	You don't know about the Raspberry Pi?
	I had Raspberry Pi about two months ago.
	You get some great raspberries up in Port Angeles.
	Wow, I hope you're on Twit today and you'll fit right in with that crowd.
	Go on.
	Tell us your story about your little devices.
	Never mind.
	That's fine.
	Hey, I'm a little tired of the cynicism and the little devices.
	We know you're gay.
	We know you're drug dealer.
	Why don't you go find someone else to do the show with, okay?
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	All right.
	All right.
	I got it.
	Dr.
	Kiki.
	Great.
	Great.
	I think that'd be a great show.
	Pack them in.
	I would listen for sure.
	Yeah, I know you would.
	I'd be all over that show.
	And then I can finally do my tech show with Molly Wood.
	You know, life will be great.
	Which is what you've always wanted to do.
	Well, she's lucky she didn't do it with me.
	But yeah, I'd love to do a tech show with her.
	She didn't do what with you?
	I was trying to get her to do a tech show with me.
	Oh, I thought you meant something else.
	Oh, please.
	No, I like her too much.
	Mickey, did you hear that?
	Mickey knows.
	Mickey knows.
	We like Molly too much.
	No, Molly is my dude friend.
	I'm telling you.
	She calls Mickey up about girly stuff and they eat ice cream and cry and whatever.
	What a generality.
	They eat ice cream and cry.
	Then Molly calls me up and says, see that Meek's auto auction lately?
	Oh man, I love that big block.
	This is Molly.
	She's awesome.
	She is the perfect friend.
	Have you ever watched the meet-room auctions?
	Yes, of course I do.
	I love those.
	I think you've got to watch them.
	I can't stand them.
	Oh, really?
	No, I like watching them.
	That's cool.
	I watch them, and then I say, oh, man, I can't make more money.
	I can buy that Corvette.
	That's what I do, too.
	Like, wow, why can't I make more money and buy that?
	It's only $70,000.
	It's a steal.
	Actually, they have cars going off at $30,000 that are just unbelievably nice.
	30 grand!
	Hello!
	30 grand!
	You got 30 grand laying around?
	You know, screw you.
	Go do your show with Kiki.
	30 grand.
	Oh, please.
	I'm not buying anything.
	I'm driving around a 20-year-old car.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah, me too.
	And I got a nail in the tire now.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah, I know.
	You can't pull it out because, you know...
	Yeah, it just goes flat.
	You've got to take it in.
	I know.
	I know.
	It's one of those deals.
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	Dvorak.org slash NA. A couple of birthdays have run down today.
	Sir Thomas Bolliard says happy birthday to his daughter Heidi.
	She turns 20 tomorrow.
	Matthew Stevens congratulates himself.
	He'll be celebrating on the 13th.
	Jerry Howard's fiancé, Dawn Rosakis, turns 33 on the 13th.
	And Sir Devin Ostendorf congratulates himself celebrating on the 12th of February.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	Best podcast in universe.
	Universe.
	And now we get to do a knighting and a damehood.
	She's 20, so she is, well, you can't, is it 21 now everywhere to drink?
	I believe so, yeah.
	Well, not at the No Agenda Night Table.
	Heidi Pulliard, step forward.
	David Foley, step forward.
	Both of you are about to join the illustrious collection here of Knights and Dames at the No Agenda Round Table because of the donations in your name or personally in the amount of $1,000 or more.
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	Knight and Dame of the Noah General Roundtable come on down for you.
	We've got hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay, hot pants and boos, winches and beer, ruminesse women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and mead.
	And I would suggest, Dame Heidi, the red boys and chardonnay might be nice for you this time.
	You don't have to be 21 here at the roundtable.
	I'm sure your dad will agree.
	We'll find out in an email in the future.
	In a further email.
	Further email.
	Hey, Curry, man.
	It was really not cool what you did there.
	That was, like, really not okay, man.
	So I did a little C-SPAN work for y'all, and I just wanted to, because, you know, it's almost like we've covered the Benghazi thing front to back.
	We know it was supposed to be...
	A kidnapping was ironically supposed to help President Obama clench the election to wrap it up, put a bow around it, and of course, unfortunately, oh crap, you know, they killed him.
	Now, a couple of things you need to know.
	This was really a CIA operation.
	There were weapons involved, which of course had been sent to Syria.
	They're sent all over the Arab world, of course.
	This is the true nature of the Obama administration, running drugs everywhere to light stuff on fire so that we can benefit from that economically, financially, and privately.
	Not for you and I, citizens, by the way.
	So just to add to our thesis, I have three quick clips just to prove that this was completely set up and no one gave a crap and they were just letting it play out as it was supposed to play out.
	First question and answer from John McCain, who I guess is just doing it just for fun.
	Because he's complicit in all this stuff, he is the military-industrial complex poster boy, is asking Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, if there was any support requested for Dempsey.
	They keep referring it to a consulate, but you can go look at the State Department website.
	There is no, nor has there ever been, an embassy or a consulate in Benghazi.
	It's a house.
	It's a house next door to the CIA place.
	Did you ever get the message that said they could not withstand a sustained attack on the consulate?
	I was tracking that intelligence.
	I was tracking through General Hand.
	Did you receive that information?
	I did, and I saw it.
	So it didn't bother you?
	It bothered me a great deal, but why didn't you put forces in place to be ready to respond?
	Because we never received a request to do so, number one.
	And number two...
	You've never heard of Ambassador Stevens' repeated warnings about the lack of security.
	I had, sir, through General Hamm.
	But we never received a request for support from the state.
	And by the way, after General Hamm mentioned that, what happened to General Hamm?
	Out!
	Fired!
	...the State Department, which would have allowed us to put forces on the government's fault.
	I'm not blaming the State Department.
	I'm sure they had their own...
	Who would you blame?
	Sorry, sir?
	Who is responsible then?
	Well, it's clear that an assessment was made that they could not withstand a sustained attack on the consulate with it being September 11th and many other indications.
	Now listen to this.
	Listen to what he's about to say.
	That are on that board over there of various attacks that have already taken place.
	I stand by the report of the Accountability Review Board, but I would also say, Senator, I was also concerned at that time with Sana'a in Yemen, Khartoum, Islamabad, Peshawar, Kabul, Baghdad.
	We had some pretty significant intel threat streams against it.
	Are we awesome or what?
	Do you hear all the places that we're messing up people's lives?
	How awesome is that?
	Hey, listen, man.
	I was really busy on September 11th.
	This is like Christmas for me, okay?
	You know, I got like Kabul.
	I've got Yemen.
	I've got Islamabad.
	I've got, you know, hey, I'm a busy guy on September 11th.
	You know, I'm like Santa Claus, all right?
	So I got a rain terror from the sky.
	And I just missed Benghazi.
	Sue me!
	So how about Hillary?
	Was she involved in, you know, of course, we had not one, but two drones with cameras watching this was going on.
	Seven hours, two attacks over the seven hour period.
	You know, we saw both the president and the secretary of state.
	In tears and distraught as the coffins came off the C-17, which we never see for servicemen and servicewomen, but only, of course, for civilians, or I should call them diplomats, and crying.
	It was so horrible.
	Oh, my God.
	In between 9.42 p.m.
	Benghazi time, when the first attack started, and 5.15 a.m., when Mr.
	Dougherty and Mr.
	Woods lost their lives, What conversations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton?
	We did not have any conversations with Secretary Clinton.
	And General Dempsey, the same is true for you?
	Yeah.
	No, sorry.
	She was having her hair done.
	He had no time.
	She didn't give a crap.
	Oh, and how about the President?
	I mean, with his Rose Garden speech, you'd think that he was like up all night, had that blue jacket on with the blue jeans.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	You sit there in the situation room.
	Yeah, the situation room, you know, it's like, ah.
	So he didn't ask you what ability we had in the area and what we could do?
	No, I think he relied on both myself as Secretary and on General Dempsey's capabilities.
	He knows generally what we've deployed into the region.
	We've presented that to him in other briefings, so he knew generally what was deployed out there.
	But as to specifics about time, etc., etc., no, he just left that up to us.
	Did you have any further communications with him that night?
	No.
	He went to bed.
	Okay?
	He went to bed.
	Did you have any other further communications?
	Did he ever call you that night to say, how are things going?
	What's going on?
	Where's the consulate?
	No, but...
	No, no.
	No, no.
	No, not really, no.
	We were aware that as we were getting information on what was taking place there, particularly when we got information that the ambassador...
	His life had been lost.
	We were aware that that information went to the White House.
	Did you communicate with anyone else at the White House that night?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	No.
	I love when I say...
	Because the whole thing was supposed to be a scripted deal, and why would they be calling them all the time?
	Worried.
	But then when he found out his life had been lost, which is what kind of...
	I mean, is it so hard for a man who has been the Secretary of Defense and a man who has been in charge of the CIA, is it so hard to say he was killed?
	Life has been lost.
	Oh, it's not like you lose your wallet.
	Life has been lost.
	Sorry.
	No one else calls you to say, how are things going?
	Well, maybe they can find it.
	No, because they all knew what it was supposed to be, but then it's like, oh, I went wrong, man.
	I've got to tell the press.
	Well, we called the White House, but everyone went to bed because they knew it was going to be a bogative kidnapping.
	Since then, has the President asked you, why weren't we able to get, in light of the second attack that occurred seven hours later, armed assets there in order to help those who were left and attacked in the annex?
	The President has made very clear to both myself and General Dempsey that with regards to future threats, we have got to be able to deploy forces in a position where we can more rapidly respond.
	But just to be clear, that night he didn't ask you what assets we had available and how quickly they could respond and what we could do to help those individuals.
	I think the biggest problem that night, Senator, was that nobody knew really what was going on there.
	Except they did know that the ambassador had lost his life.
	They had all those drones in the air.
	They were carefully monitoring the whole thing.
	Why are we the only show that even has this theory?
	I have yet to hear anybody deal with this theory and all we do on this show is back up the theory.
	We don't do it as much as we used to, but every time we bring something into the show about this theory, all it does is back up the theory.
	And nobody even considers, oh, it's crazy.
	It's a conspiracy talk.
	You're nuts.
	You're crazy, you two.
	Well, that's why people don't do it.
	Because of exactly that.
	They don't like the, yeah.
	Have you noticed, someone, I don't know if this was a blog post or where I picked this up, but the term now is common sense, you see.
	Common sense is a very interesting history, but the President is using it all the time.
	It's common sense.
	So we do not have common sense to be thinking this way.
	There's a study, a number of people have sent this to me.
	It is, hold on a second...
	False memories.
	Let me just bring it up here.
	I gotta adjust my glasses for my blindness.
	I will go to see my obstetrician, by the way.
	The study is titled, False Memories of Fabricated Political Events.
	A study done by University of, let's see, Stephen Frenda, University of California, Irvine, Department of Psychology and Social Behavior, University of California, Irvine.
	Is this a good, a credible university?
	Is this a good institution?
	Actually, it is for certain kinds of research.
	Okay.
	I'll just read you the abstract.
	It's eight pages in total.
	In the largest false memory study to date, 5,269 participants were asked about their memories for three true and one of five fabricated political events.
	Each fabricated event was accompanied by a photographic image purportedly depicting that event.
	Approximately half the participants falsely remembered the false event happened, with 27% remembering that they saw the events happen on the news!
	Political orientation appeared to influence the formation of false memories, not unimportant, with conservatives more likely to falsely remember seeing Barack Obama shaking hands with the president of Iran and liberals more likely to remember George W. Bush vacationing with a baseball celebrity during Hurricane with conservatives more likely to falsely remember seeing Barack Obama shaking hands
	A follow-up study supported the explanation that events are more easily implanted in memory when they are congruent with a person's pre-existing attitudes and evaluations, in part because attitude congruent false events promote feelings of recognition and familiarity, which in turn in part because attitude congruent false events promote feelings of recognition and familiarity, which
	This is exactly why both Fox and MSNBC and NBC and CNN are pretty much run by the same people, They're just giving different versions of the bull crap because you will believe anything.
	It doesn't matter what side you're on.
	As long as they just say it, you'll believe it.
	It's beautiful.
	Great study.
	Something you should...
	Look into, at the very least.
	And this is what I mean with this whole, you know, it's all around us, the whole...
	Yeah, no, we're screwed.
	Now, you know, I don't like bringing up Sandy Hook, unless there's something I got, because we might just call it crazy conspiracy nutjobs.
	Nutjobs, I tell you.
	So, these kids are being pimped out everywhere.
	Now we have one of the kids on the Dr.
	Oz show.
	Because, you know, Dr.
	Oz is a whore!
	He's got to use the kids to get more ratings, and they're wearing green ribbons, by the way.
	This is the Sandy Hook green ribbon.
	And he asked the kid a question, and I want you to listen to the answer.
	The video is great, because you see the parent, like, kneeing the kid, elbowing the kid, because he fucks up.
	He's shaking his head.
	Oh, he's in third grade.
	Thank you, Louie.
	I asked all the kids what questions they want me to ask, because obviously this is a sensitive topic.
	So first of all, in other words, the questions were prepared.
	So it's not a journalistic interview.
	It's like I asked all the kids, and of course it's not the kids, the handlers, sometimes known as parents, are saying, here's what you can ask my child.
	My child has been programmed to answer this question.
	Louie, you wanted me to ask you what you remembered from that day?
	Yes.
	I remember that a lot, a lot of policemen were in the school.
	Well, a lot, I was like, like, hiding under, when we were having a drill, we were hiding under, like...
	Did you hear it?
	We're having a drill.
	And then we were hiding under the desk.
	And now the parent is like elbowing the kid and he just completely loses it.
	Take your time.
	There's no hurry.
	Go ahead.
	Take your time.
	Now remember how we rehearsed this.
	I'm Dr.
	Oz.
	What would you like to say to your teachers about Friday?
	Well, I didn't...
	I don't know.
	So the kids lost it.
	Kids screwed it up.
	We were having a drill.
	I didn't know, but did they have any drill on the day?
	Am I missing some information here?
	Well, I think the litany would be that they told the kids it was a drill because they were trying to keep them safe from the mad gunman.
	Ah, okay.
	Right.
	That would be the way I would do it.
	That's right.
	There you go.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	Anyway, I have an interesting little tidbit because you know how you're always promoting people going valet and all this other bull crap when they hit the TSA lines.
	Well, excuse me.
	It's not bull crap.
	It is a very enjoyable process.
	I think it's a really good way to go.
	I do it.
	I never get x-rayed.
	And I talk to the guys, have a good conversation.
	I always ask them some pertinent question.
	I learn something.
	Well, this is interesting.
	I didn't know that you could get in through the lines, and apparently, according to the website, you can, with a Costco card.
	Now, I'm recommending to top your thing, to only use your Costco card...
	To go through the TSA line, here's part of the report.
	A surprising way to get through Bay Area checkpoints.
	You just need a Costco card.
	Alan Martin with the undercover investigation you'll only see right here on KPIX 5.
	Whether you travel for business or pleasure, getting on an airplane can be a hassle.
	Navigating all the scanners and metal detectors.
	They've always got some new sign up.
	Even grandmas and kids don't get an easy pass.
	I'm about as vanilla as can be.
	Giants pitcher Sergio Romo had a run-in with security in Las Vegas after failing to show proper ID, according to the TSA. And while most of us travel with a passport or a driver's license, it turns out you don't need either.
	If you don't have an ID, you can still fly.
	KPIX 5 went undercover to each of the Bay Area's major airports.
	I don't have my driver's license.
	At SFO, our producer got through with a student ID and a couple of personal credit cards.
	TSA agents said they'd accept a Costco card.
	Yeah, so a couple things with this report.
	First of all, you do not need identification to travel.
	You have the freedom of movement.
	You will, of course, be investigated and stripped and scanned and searched.
	But there is no law whatsoever.
	This is true.
	This is absolutely true.
	You do not...
	I mean, you have to be a good slave, which is why people show it anyway.
	Of course, this is also a very pathetic...
	Attempt at PR for Costco.
	And clearly the Costco card is the mark of the beast.
	It is obviously, you know, the chip that we all have.
	Well, I thought you'd get a kick out of it because you hate Costco.
	I don't hate.
	Yeah, I do.
	Because, yes, I do hate Costco.
	I know, yeah, I guess so.
	Yeah, I do.
	I do hate Costco.
	You love Costco.
	And you know why I hate Costco?
	You remember why I hate Costco?
	I know exactly why you hate Costco.
	Why do I hate Costco?
	I know why you hate Costco.
	Why do I hate Costco?
	Because they would not take your money.
	That's correct.
	That's why I found it highly amusing.
	That's correct.
	The whole moment.
	I was there.
	It was your idea.
	That's why you were there.
	It was your idea.
	No, he's a total Costco hater.
	Ah, yes I am.
	And literally, it would not take its money.
	It was very funny to watch.
	But this report is so, it's irksome, this report, because this is not about, I mean, it's submitting even more into the machine.
	It's by saying, you know, as long as you have something to prove, this is, you know, Well, actually, to be honest about it, just to be fair to the report, because I only clipped it, at the very end of the report, they indicated you did not need anything at all to get on a plane, but you would be questioned.
	Yeah.
	And to make sure that they'd ask you if you knew anything about it.
	For example...
	I think it was like if you were in a Stalag during World War II, they will grill the new prisoners insofar as what baseball team, supposedly the way the movies play it.
	Who won the World Series?
	The TSA does the same thing.
	So that means you would never get on a plane.
	Because you don't know anything about baseball.
	Yeah, right.
	Okay, now here's a clip.
	I can assemble my AR-15 with my eyes closed, okay?
	Here's another...
	This is a more interesting clip.
	This is Steny Hoyer, who is a douchebag par excellence, introducing Bill Clinton and admitting that they tried to pass a law in Congress to allow Clinton to run for a third term.
	I thought you might be interested in a little story.
	I have...
	He supported a constitutional amendment, introduced a constitutional amendment, many, many Congresses, to repeal the 22nd Amendment, which says that the people can't re-elect a president for a third term.
	Henry Hyde, who some of you remember, was chairman of the Judiciary Committee, co-sponsored that with me.
	He was an opponent of term limits.
	So in 2005, I went up to him after the election and said, Henry, I'm going to put that bill in again.
	He said, fine.
	This is a Thursday.
	He said, fine.
	So I put his name in.
	We're going to introduce the bill the coming Tuesday.
	On Tuesday, we came back, Nancy.
	Henry was sitting on one of the seats, called me over and said, Steny, I don't want you to put my name on that bill.
	I said, Henry, you've co-sponsored this for about five Congress.
	He said, yes.
	But I went back, discussed it with my staff, and they say if we pass that amendment, Bill Clinton may be re-elected.
	A few days later, as I said, he asked me to take his name off that bill.
	When I asked him why, he told me.
	It was a reflection of the respect and, to some degree, the fear, certainly in the Republican Party, they have about Bill Clinton.
	Bill Clinton, of course, after his presidency, has continued to set his sights on service.
	Right, servicing the interns...
	Now, this is a...
	You know, I mean, they're always trying to do this.
	They're trying to eliminate that 22nd Amendment, which is like...
	I don't know why, because you're never going to get any of these guys out of office.
	It's known fact that they would keep voting in Obama until hell freezes over.
	And he's a young man, so that's what we don't need.
	But you can be sure they're going to try it again.
	But here's...
	While listening to this, I came to this interesting kind of a red book prediction.
	Okay.
	Bill Clinton...
	Will not be alive if Hillary Clinton runs for president.
	Either before she starts her run or during her run, which would actually be better.
	Something's going to happen to him for two reasons.
	One, it would get her in because people would be so sentimental about good old Bill.
	So she'll win easily.
	Oh, I can just see the speeches already.
	In the tradition of the great President Bill Clinton carrying the torch...
	And more importantly, the Clinton Library, everybody is pretty sure it is so corrupt and rife with donations from Saudi people and there's just a lot of sketchy money in there.
	And in fact, all of his organizations have a lot of problems if they were investigated during a Hillary run.
	That will cut that off.
	He's done.
	He's gone.
	We've got nothing to do with me.
	And so she could divorce herself, not from Bill, but from all these organizations that people are very suspicious of.
	And that's what she needs to do.
	She can't be associated with the Clinton Library.
	In fact, this was what everybody said during the last run.
	They said, why don't they start looking at the Clinton Library that's going to get Hillary in trouble?
	Ah, shit.
	The stream is breaking up.
	Oh, I know why.
	I'm sorry, I was downloading porn.
	Anyway, so that's a red book for me.
	So we have, it'll be 2015 to 20, you know, that little period where he has to be.
	If I was him, I wouldn't be anywhere near the U.S. of A. I'd be on the road.
	All right.
	Then let me lay something on you, boy.
	This is a twofer.
	Twofer here at the end of the show.
	You ready for a twofer?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	This is Agenda 21.
	You know what that is, right?
	Agenda 21 is the global United Nations indoctrination campaign to think about all things green and sustainable.
	And the best way to do that, of course, is to eat people.
	That is the best way.
	And what comes into the Agenda 21 conversation is climate change.
	And climate change is pretty much responsible for everything.
	Well, back to our top story, the blizzard.
	Every time we see a storm like this lately, the first question to pop into a lot of people's minds is whether or not global warming is to blame.
	I'll talk to Bill Nye.
	So, whenever I see a blizzard...
	Wait a minute, they're bringing in Bill Nye?
	Oh yeah, that's part two of the clip.
	So, whenever there's a blizzard, the first thing that pops into my mind, the first question is...
	Am I going to be safe?
	Who's going to dig out the car?
	No.
	According to the prestitute at CNN, the first question is, is this climate change and global warming?
	God knows we've never seen a blizzard in our lifetime.
	Now let's continue with the same prostitute with another question.
	We want to bring in our science guy, Bill Nye, and talk about something else that's falling from the sky.
	And that is an asteroid.
	What's coming our way?
	Is this an effect of perhaps global warming, or is this just some meteoric...
	Oh man, if I had known that clip was there, you would have gotten Clip of the Day for that one.
	I'm telling you...
	Warming in an asteroid?
	And you know, people are like, yeah, that makes sense.
	Fuck, man.
	Stop driving your car.
	How does Bill Nye get on the air is my question.
	That jabroni doesn't need to be on the air either.
	It's Mickey Mouse television.
	What did he say to that?
	You're nuts, lady?
	I have this thing on the asteroid if you want.
	We're going to bring in our science guy, Bill Nye, and talk about something else that's falling.
	That's the wrong one.
	I don't know if I have his exact answer to that.
	As the one that created what's called the Tunguska event in Siberia in 1908, if such a meteor were to hit...
	Atlanta, or New York City, or Boston.
	That would be it for those municipalities.
	The thing with about 2,000 square kilometers, 1,200 square miles.
	Is it kilometers or kilometers?
	I'm always suspicious of people who say kilometers.
	I think kilometers is...
	Kilometers is the way I think it should be pronounced, but I think kilometers...
	Is that more like a science way?
	No, no, no.
	Like celebrities?
	No.
	You would be like Celebrities.
	Celebrities, kilometers.
	No, I don't know.
	Kilometers is a way it should be pronounced by science.
	That destroyed, flattened, ruined.
	But that's not going to happen.
	Let's make sure our viewers don't get nervous.
	Oh, don't get nervous, viewers.
	That's not going to happen.
	We're not going to get tealed by the asteroid from global warming.
	The meteor is sort of going up and above the planet Earth, right?
	That's a meteor.
	Yeah, get nervous, but not about this one.
	This one will miss us by about 15 minutes.
	I love the 15 minutes.
	It's like the bus.
	This woman misses by 15 minutes.
	Hey, bus drivers!
	I opened the door!
	It will miss us by 15 minutes.
	Oh boy, I wish I was on Twit today.
	Oh God, please Leo, I beg you, let me back on to talk about this stuff.
	Because you need me.
	The world needs me to talk about this now.
	You can't have the guy with the...
	I'll put on the bow tie.
	Will that make a difference?
	If I put on a bow tie?
	He's not going to talk about this topic.
	Of course he is.
	It's science.
	15 minutes difference and that's it.
	There are about a hundred...
	I'll bet you one silver coin.
	One silver coin.
	This topic, the 15 minutes, is discussed on Twit today.
	So, okay, so what has to be discussed...
	Now hopefully some, well see the problem is the chat room will go into that chat room and try to get it, but I'll say this, I'll bet you the silver coin that this topic, and the term 15 minutes has to be used as we just missed it by 15 minutes.
	Yeah, I'm in on the bet.
	15 minutes, so you think it won't happen?
	I'm saying no.
	They won't discuss it.
	It's got nothing to do with anything.
	And winner gets to choose which silver coin.
	Now you're adding to.
	I'm just giving you an ounce of silver.
	Yes, I already know.
	That's it.
	I'm not choosing coins.
	You're not going to come rummaging around the house.
	Oh, look at this.
	I'm taking this one.
	No.
	Not going to happen.
	Make the bet or not.
	I'm in on the bet.
	I'm going to win this bet.
	Rummaging around the house.
	And then I have a clue for you.
	Because you keep mistaking John O. Brennan for Paul Bremer.
	Yeah, John O. Brennan, the guy who used to run Ear Rock.
	Ear Rock, that's right.
	So Ear Rock was Paul Bremer.
	Oh, that's right.
	Not John O. Brennan.
	I knew this.
	So he got shooed the other day in Britain.
	A dude came in and threw...
	He got shooed?
	Bremmer?
	Yes!
	Good!
	I got the audio.
	It was very funny.
	So I'll tell you what happens because, of course, it's an Iraqi guy and he stands up and the video is hilarious.
	And he's like, hey, Bremen, I got two presents for you.
	One from Saddam Hussein, the other one from the Iraqi people whose country you fucked up.
	And he throws these shoes at him.
	And Bremen actually tries to catch one of them.
	My name is Yasser Samurai.
	I was more in London by Iraq and Iraq.
	And I came to London in 2005 after the Iraq war.
	After we destroyed the country.
	I'm just...
	Now listen to the response of the crowd.
	That's the thing that's most interesting to me, is how people respond to what in the Arab world is one of the largest...
	It's like your mother wears army boots, only to the max.
	Showing someone your heel or throwing a shoe is a huge insult.
	I'm from Saddam Hussein, ex-president.
	I want it from the Irish people.
	This is a message.
	Come on.
	You fucked up the country.
	You fucked up the country.
	You destroyed the country.
	Fuck you.
	Fuck you!
	Fuck your democracy!
	And here's the British people.
	He threw a shoe.
	And then Bremmer, at the end...
	The audio's a little crappy.
	He says, you know, if we hadn't kicked Saddam Hussein out, you wouldn't be able to say that in Iraq.
	You'd be a dead man right now.
	It's unbelievable.
	I love it.
	I love it when...
	Ahmadinejad also got a shoe the other day.
	At least one protester has been arrested for throwing a shoe at the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
	A shoe?
	He was throwing a shoe.
	Oh, my goodness.
	This is very weird, the way they throw shoes.
	That was during a visit to a mosque in the Egyptian capital, Cairo.
	The shoe did not appear to hit Mr.
	Ahmadinejad, but the president made a hasty retreat, showing the sole of a shoe is a grave insult in the Arab world.
	The Brits don't get it.
	Of course not.
	The guy threw his shoes.
	What a waste of a shoe.
	Idiots.
	This is idiocy.
	He threw his shoe.
	He threw his shoe.
	The guy was...
	Anyway.
	We're done.
	Now we're done with this.
	What week are we?
	How many weeks has this new year been going on?
	Oh, uh, four?
	No.
	Three?
	Are we?
	No.
	Six?
	Sixth week.
	We're in the sixth week.
	What happens every six weeks?
	What?
	Come on!
	You know, we've talked about this on the frickin' show.
	What?
	Oh, shoot, that's the wrong one.
	Nice punchline.
	The FBI! Oh yeah, no, they always set some guy up.
	You're right, it's a six-week cycle.
	Six-week cycle.
	Here's what we have to do.
	Next show, the show we do before it marks six weeks, we have to make the prediction.
	But you heard about this.
	The FBI got the Sam Jose guy.
	By the way, try to find a photo of this guy.
	I think I found one.
	The guy looks like a complete moron.
	And I think he's like a homeless guy or something, and they just, hey buddy, would you like to, hey, you want to bomb a place?
	Yeah?
	I'll bomb a place, sure.
	And you've got some guy, some idiot, and they talked him into it, and then he had him dial the phone a couple of times to blow up the Bank of America over here in Oakland.
	Matthew Aaron Lanza of San Jose.
	Three names, another earmark.
	Of course.
	But it's six weeks!
	It's like six weeks!
	It's like clockwork.
	They look at the calendar like, oh yeah.
	What is six weeks from now?
	I think that's when we have our 50th anniversary, our 500 shows.
	That's on the 30th?
	Let me just see.
	Let me just check.
	February is 1, 2, 3 is the first week of March.
	And then 4, 5.
	It's just before the 500th.
	So that'll be our earmark.
	We'll remember around the 500th episode.
	Right, there should be another event.
	It takes apparently six weeks to set these things up.
	Probably a very small team of FBI people.
	Yeah, no, it's not the setup.
	The setup sometimes takes months, but the announcement cycle is every six weeks.
	Oh yeah, there's probably three or four of these in play as we speak.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They're holding off.
	Of course.
	Hey, Bill, this is getting boring.
	What are we going to do?
	I'm ready with this guy.
	No, no, no.
	This guy, by the way, is suicidal anyway.
	What are we going to do if he kills himself?
	Can we give this guy the cell phone yet?
	Come on, man.
	I want to give him the cell phone.
	It's time.
	It's time.
	No, it's not besides the cell phone.
	It's always the same thing.
	Yeah, how come it's always a cell phone in the backpack?
	Come on.
	It's getting boring.
	They've got to spice it up a little bit.
	Well, this guy, the idea they had was that he was trying to blow up the bank, blame it on right-wing Republicans to start a civil war.
	That was his genius idea.
	All made logical sense.
	That was his genius idea.
	He's going to start a civil war by blowing up the Bank of America, which would upset nobody, by the way.
	And then blame it on the Republicans who'd probably get more votes, to be honest about it, than they did last election.
	And then a civil war would begin for some unknown reason.
	What an idiot.
	And this all makes sense.
	Oh, the FBI busted another guy.
	Yay!
	Yay for the FBI. I think a lot of people are catching on to this scam, by the way, on the internets.
	So the 500th episode, that'll be pretty big.
	Do we have a special donation thing for like 500 pennies?
	Yeah, 500 pennies.
	That's five bucks.
	I'll work on something this week.
	I ended up.
	But not the 500 times.
	500 times, maybe.
	Have you been receiving all the emails I've been forwarding to you regarding designs for the night pins?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm looking at them now.
	Okay.
	Please, people, you can CC me, but don't email them to me alone and put John first in the to address because this is not my responsibility on the show.
	Right?
	I just want to make it clear.
	I don't know why they're sending anything to you.
	And kudos to spamhouse.org.
	They've changed something.
	You know, zen.spamhouse.org or whatever it is, it's the biggest email blacklist service that everyone looks at.
	So I run my own mail server, and all of a sudden people are like, Hey man, your email's bouncing back!
	You're bouncing back!
	And of course the first question I always ask is, Did you read what the bounce message said?
	No, I deleted it!
	I like the way, I like your character.
	Well, this is exactly what people do.
	There is information in that message.
	This is the Adam Curry hater guy.
	There's information in the bounce back email that will help you understand what happened.
	And so they've refined, and it even kicked the email back to Miss Mickey.
	And I'm like, and of course I said to Mickey, do you have the email?
	She said, of course I saved the email.
	What do you think I am?
	Some idiot?
	So I go look at the bounce message, and she had sent me an email that just said, subject line contact.
	I'm like, I love this.
	This is how good Spam House has become.
	Because, you know, contact is like the number one dating site bullcrap spam email you get.
	Contact, dot, dot, dot.
	And so it's bouncing.
	And she comes in from a.Mac address.
	So it's bouncing that back.
	So something has changed and they're getting really good.
	And I find it very enjoyable that you have to now figure out how to get through my spam filter.
	And this is a product, John, that I'm now developing.
	Because what's the problem with this process?
	The problem is the bounce message sucks.
	So instead of a bounce message that has headers and all this crap, it's going to be, your email was not smart enough to get through to me.
	Think about how cool that is, that people then have to take time to create a subject line that makes sense in order to get through the spam filter.
	Do you think it would cut back on dumb communication?
	Maybe.
	Maybe not.
	I have no idea.
	Forwards?
	If it says FWD, colon, blocks.
	No more forwards.
	Don't just forward crap to me.
	You want to communicate something to me?
	Do some work.
	What do you think?
	Well, I forward stuff to you all the time.
	You forward stuff to me all the time.
	Yeah, but this is...
	I love you.
	You had me on the whitelist.
	Yeah, of course I have to have a whitelist, but this forwarding that people do?
	Well, here's my other favorite.
	You've got to listen to this show.
	It's great.
	It's only five hours long.
	You'll love it.
	Great clips.
	This is not a helpful email, people.
	I have a life.
	I have work.
	No agenda producer up there.
	You got your pet peeve out of the way before the show ended.
	Yeah, well, I've got to do something.
	Hey, people donate, I'll work more.
	No Agenda Producer Update is coming up live on the streams.
	It's been a while since we've had one of those.
	So Mr. Oil, Sir Gitmo Slave, I don't know if Void Zero is on there.
	I don't know if he participates in the show.
	He should.
	Go on there and tell these guys how great they are.
	They're keeping all of this stuff running for us.
	I don't know what happened.
	Some of the stream was buffering.
	I'm not sure why.
	That's probably anticipation of the move.
	Hey, folks, 1021.
	What?
	What?
	Snatched.
	Snatched?
	1021.
	What the hell are you talking about?
	NDAA. Oh, section 1021.
	Yeah.
	So we'll be back on Thursday, and we'll be back with another doozy of a show here to protect your sanity.
	Actually, it's good for your physical health as well, knowing that it's bullcrap, and that's what we cut through.
	Coming to you from Austin, Texas, home of South by Southwest, in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, and without further ado, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	The best podcast in the universe!

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