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Eat prunes, that's my advice.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, December 30th, 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 265.
This is No Agenda.
Watching the mud slide down the hilltop.
Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
Give my nation rest here in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning.
I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where it's Christmas week and nobody's working and it shows.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, lazy asses there.
In the morning to you, John.
In the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea and foot on the ground.
Okay, we'll try that again.
It's ships at sea and boots on the ground.
Boots.
Wings in the skies.
Hams on the air.
And human resources in the chat room with noagendachat.net.
They are completely charged up and ready to go the way their government loves them.
You know, it seems to me if you're going to run down that line, you should say...
Hams on the air and human resources everywhere.
Oh, to do like a rhyme?
It would have a nice little rhyming end.
Okay, like a haiku.
Well, haikus don't necessarily rhyme.
No, I know.
Every...
I'm changing it now in the script.
So we always have it correct now.
But can you maybe remember for once that it's boots on the ground and not feet on the ground?
I'm talking about the feet that keep washing up on shore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey John, last show of 2010.
Oh, that's right.
This is the last show of 2010.
That's right.
How was your Christmas?
Christmas was good.
What did you receive?
Did you receive anything, any gifts outside of pure love from your family?
Uh, I got a few things.
This and that.
Like, what'd you get?
Nothing, nothing.
I wouldn't know.
Well, I got a, uh, uh, it's just, you know, a lot of...
Come on, man.
Just say it.
What's wrong?
You ashamed?
I got a pile of all kinds of stuff.
You don't remember, do you?
That's the problem.
I do remember.
I mean, the most important thing is not really a gift.
It was some sort of work done for me, so...
Oh, really?
Like one of those gift certificates?
Like, hey, dear dad.
Those don't work, by the way.
They suck.
I used to do those once in a while for my parents.
Yeah, I'll wash the car.
Yeah, thanks.
I still have one of those from my wife from about 15 years ago.
To wash the car?
That I pull out every once in a while.
To wash the car?
Hey, what about this?
Ah, screw ya.
But was it to wash the car?
No, it was like all kinds of stuff.
You know, to clean the office, to scratch my back.
It was a huge pile.
It was a big, giant bundle.
Really?
It says, scratch my back.
Yeah!
And it was like, within a month...
How romantic!
You and Mimi, I gotta tell you, you guys are just killing me.
So it's like, within...
Oh!
Oh, no!
Hello, John?
Hello?
Oh, that was weird.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
So, for some reason, you went on hold.
It must have been my fault.
I say, you know, within a month, you know, scratch your own back, and then the next year, you gave me a back scratcher, and that was the end of that.
I got some cool gifts.
Oh, so I get it.
You want to talk about your gifts.
No.
What was the coolest one?
The coolest one was from my daughter.
She gave me a USB record player.
Which I thought was so awesome because, you know, it's like when I was...
Shoot, man.
When I was five, I think I had a plastic...
It's made of plastic, of course.
I had a plastic record player with, you know, like a little suitcase, blue, and you open it up and the top was the speaker.
And then you could...
And I put my Peter and the Wolf record on.
And this thing is pretty amazing.
It's like, you know, it's a record player and you plug it in.
It has stereo outs as well, but you can plug it into your computer.
It also has a little transmitter in it.
You can...
Curiously, my wife gave me the exact same gift about two Christmases ago, but it doesn't have the transmitter.
It's the original, older version.
Right.
The transmitter part is pretty cool, because it's portable.
But on the daily source code, tomorrow, last one of the year, I'm going to play some vinyl.
That I've got laying around.
Yeah, man.
Well, wait until you see what I've got laying around in vinyl.
That's what's really cool.
It's not just the fact that it sounds scratchy.
You'll have to listen tomorrow.
Come on, tell me.
No, listen tomorrow.
Just tell me one.
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.
The message.
The 12-inch.
That I asked.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we have a couple, one executive producer, one associate executive producer, might as well get him out of the way, to like the 40 listeners who apparently are working during the week.
And we do have a, at the break we have a bunch of make goods apparently.
We missed some people in the previous episodes?
In the long episode version, we did.
Oh, the long episode version.
What was that?
The one where we had the...
Technical problems and everything?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, yeah, our executive producer for this show, who contributed 33333 from Toronto, Ontario, Sam...
It's either Leung or Long or Lung.
It depends on...
I think Lung.
Lung.
I always thought it was Leung, but okay.
Dear John and Adam in the morning, the both of you, hopefully this tiny donation will help dig you guys out of the hole from the coin challenge.
I also wanted to refill the karma jar and should complete my knighthood after surviving vacation.
According to this, he is a knight as of this.
Yes, I see the little knight logo next to his name on the spreadsheet, which is Sir Sam.
I also want to let you know that I sat in the lobby of the UN leeching off their free Wi-Fi to download No Agenda 264.
Excellent, excellent, excellent.
I thought you might enjoy that.
Happy New Year.
May there be more No Agendas in 2011.
We assume so.
Sam from Great Nation, Great White North, which is Canada.
And then our associate executive producer for this week, who donated $213.37, is Troy Rudder.
Isn't Troy a sir by now as well?
I don't know.
Maybe Eric will look his numbers up.
He's in Ames, Iowa.
The fabulous Ames, Iowa.
No real message.
Just keep spreading the awesome.
We will.
We'll do our best to spread some awesome.
And we appreciate that coming at the end of the year with some nice giving levels.
That's highly appreciated.
I got a couple of quick PR mentions.
One from noagendanovels.com.
Scott, you remember who wrote the book One Day in Gitmo Nation?
Yeah.
Of which a portion of the proceeds goes to support the show.
He says, a very nice gentleman by the name of Brendan Kidwell bought a download copy of One Day in Gitmo Nation and proceeded to turn it into an EPUB format, so I have now made that version available for download as well.
That means human resources with iPads, iPhones, Nooks, and other e-readers can read it in the right format.
It saved me a lot of time and money.
I'm sending him a signed copy of the book to say thanks.
You can get the book for free by downloading it.
Hold on, I've got to take off my jacket.
It's a little warm here.
What?
I got to take off my hoodie.
It got a little warm.
A hoodie?
Yeah.
Dude, it was like 45 degrees here last night.
I know.
Oh, the horrors.
The horrors of 45 degrees.
So go check out NoAgendaNovels.com.
And just a quick note from Mitch Bidron, who says, Hey, you guys never have to worry about stuff like the explicit tag on iTunes.
Instead, you probably just want to post a warning about the true danger of your show.
My 11-year-old daughter Valerie has a new hobby.
Reading magazines specifically to see the side effects of advertised medications.
I'll be sending you my remaining knighthood money for show 270, but I want to let you know some of the good that you are doing.
We appreciate that, Mitch.
Yeah, we were up in a Big Bear, actually.
Oh, yeah, you went to Big Bear.
That's really interesting.
Before we talk about that, though, let's mention the fact that the people who give us, at a certain level, will get their executive producer credits.
They can use them as credits, and you can do that by going to noagendashow.com or devorek.org slash na.
Okay, then let's do it officially.
And thanks, Sir Sam Lung.
L-E-U-N-G. And Troy Rudder.
Still not sure.
No, he's still about $263.37 short of knighthood.
Give or take a penny.
But Troy is our associate executive producer.
Thank you very much.
Unlike those phonies in Hollywood, we'll actually vouch for your credit.
Everyone else out there, you must go out and go forth with the propagation of the message.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Three!
Two!
One!
All out!
Stand with me now, Lon Brown!
Shut up!
By the way, our...
The spokesperson for that clip got fired.
Yeah, I read about that.
So that's good.
So maybe we can get him to do a new version for us.
He needs a gig.
He's looking for a gig, and we're it.
We're it for him right now.
Now, Big Bear is kind of interesting.
Went up there to the snow.
So the way it's advertised, if you live in LA, here's the way you say it.
Big Bear, man, it's great.
It's only two hours away.
Now, when you actually drive it, it's three and a half hours.
I'm surprised it's that short.
Yeah.
And we had like a snowstorm up there.
It was pretty cool.
It didn't stay long enough, I would have to say, but we didn't want to risk getting stuck up there and not being able to do the show.
I swear to God.
We've got to come back well on time Wednesday evening so we don't mess up the show.
That's good.
Although there was a fine and dandy high-speed internet available, so I could have done the show from there.
In fact, as most people do, I was up there and you look around and you go, huh, well, I could buy a plot of land and we could just park a trailer on it while we're building the house.
No.
That's the beginning of the end.
You know that's how it starts, right?
I know.
I know people who've done it.
I know lots of people who've done it.
And it's always the beginning of the end.
What is the end?
The end is they break up with whoever they're with because they get trailer fever.
They get cabin fever, right?
And they either don't finish the house or they go broke building the house and have to sell it at a loss.
Yeah.
It's just a...
Don't do it!
Don't do it!
The number of successful people...
The number of successes with that model is so...
It does happen.
I've ran into somebody who actually managed to get through it.
But is it only for mountain living?
Or how about people who...
How about for people who go to an island?
It's the same thing.
You go to some tropical paradise.
Like, oh, I love it here so much.
How we're going to live here, honey.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
It's the beginning of the end.
Just do not do it.
Just don't even think about it.
But anyway, of course, it's been the coldest and rainiest weather on record for Gitmo Nation West, for the Republic of California.
I know it's been that way for Southern California.
No, it's been miserable up here.
Of course, around the world, around the globe, we have climate change abound.
We can't say global warming, because let's face it, it ain't getting warmer.
But let's call it climate change, or as some like to say, Something funny, though, in the Gitmo Nation East, United Kingdom, they had a scheme, as they call it, over there.
I guess it was like four or five years ago, and the scheme was you would get a 400-pound, I guess, tax break or rebate if you installed one of the extremely environmentally global warming, climate change-friendly boilers.
So basically there were 8 million households, according to the Daily Mail, 8 million households that basically threw out perfectly good boilers, which is what makes your water hot.
And I think it's not just for the water, but it's for heating as well in a lot of the British homes.
Threw away perfectly good boilers, bought these new ones, except it's a small problem.
The way they work is unlike a conventional boiler because this essentially takes the 25% heat that normally goes out of the vent and exhaust pipe, as it should, And it tries to pipe it back down into the system.
So that means there's a cold pipe running along the back of the boiler.
And of course, these are all freezing up during this horrible weather they're having.
So at least 60,000 people have called in so far saying, my new boiler doesn't work.
I'm freezing my ass off.
So good job, everybody.
Way to go.
Well, you know, if you're going to be suckered into some of these initiatives, maybe you deserve a little lesson.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it could happen anywhere.
I just thought it was kind of interesting.
I know, I'm just saying.
Yeah, yeah.
There was a number of articles that are starting to come out of all the newspapers in England now about the climate change and the predictions in the year 2000, and more recently a book that came out in 2004, saying, oh, the children will never see snow again.
They'll never see snow again.
And now they're starting to dig up this nonsense.
I mean, you dug it up on the show last week.
Right, the article from 2000.
2000 saying that it'll be, you know, the poor kids, you know...
They only have virtual snow on the internet.
Yeah.
They won't know what a snowman is.
I told my daughter that.
She's like, what?
Because she lived through the past two winters in London.
She said, virtual?
What?
She said, I've never been colder in my life.
Yeah, and London would be a very miserable place to be.
It's cold anyway.
What happens, because they're so unprepared for this, is people wind up having to sleep in their cars on the highways.
I mean, it's really bad.
Yes, in fact, and they probably don't know the basic rules about stuff like that.
Like if you live in Colorado, you're taught since you were raised as a kid to never let your gas tank go anywhere near like half empty.
Yeah, and half empty is already, you're already risking your life.
Because you could end up in your car for days, you know, and extremely cold weather, you have to keep the engine running or you're going to basically freeze the day.
Yeah, you're going to die.
Wow.
I didn't know that, but of course I haven't been raised in Colorado.
But I didn't know that.
But yeah, keep your gas tank above a half full always.
Should we start the show off with something kind of light and funny?
Huh.
A little, in fact, it kind of qualifies as real news.
It's not really news, but it was Oprah.
You know, Oprah is starting her new channel.
You know, the funny thing is, didn't Oprah already start a channel some years back, back in the late 90s, called O? Remember that channel?
It was on cable.
Wasn't that just a magazine?
No, she did a magazine, too, but she had a cable channel called O. Because I remember that's when I was working on the cable channel.
When you were a cable mogul.
I was a cable, no, I was a cable lackey.
Big difference.
And as a lackey, I would look at the other channels.
And there was this Oprah channel that I think Paul Allen had invested in.
Really?
Well, then that explains it.
That's why it's gone.
He invested in it.
The judge threw out his claims.
Remember he was going after everyone except Microsoft for patent infringement?
The court threw it all out, which kind of solidifies my theory that he was just doing it to prove that these lawsuits are frivolous and to get frivolous lawsuits off the system.
He'll have to go back in appeals, but no one has mentioned this, I don't think.
But his entire lawsuit was dismissed.
Anyway, let's play the jingle then while we're at it.
And now, back to Real News.
So, uh, Oprah gets roasted at the Kennedy Honors, and she's up there, I swear to God, it's Oprah, uh, Michelle, and Barack.
I mean, holy moly, up there in the...
Oh, I'm sorry.
Oprah, Paul McCartney, Michelle Obama, Barack Obama.
Ooh, the elites.
Totally, totally.
So, by the way, kind of funny, because wasn't it Paul McCartney was on stage with John Lennon when the Queen was up there in the box and John Lennon said, other people up there, just rattle your jewelry.
So now he is the elite.
But Chris Rock, who of course panders to the elite, roasted Oprah.
He's one of the elite jesters.
Yes, court jester of the elite.
He did a pretty funny routine about Oprah, and I thought it would be fun to listen to it this morning.
Just to get into the vibe of where you're not this holiday season.
You're not at the Kennedy Center being honored and roasted like Oprah.
Queen Oprah.
I walk in this room and it's just an amazing feeling to look up and see the most powerful person in the world and right next to her, Barack Obama!
Now, what was funny about this is that the camera cut to Michelle, who was actually sitting next to Barack Obama, and she made this like, that's right, bitches, that's me!
But of course, Chris Rock was talking about Oprah.
But it was kind of funny to see, and she has like these wire-framed glasses on.
It's unbelievable.
Elitist.
But she thought it was about her, and then of course Chris launches straight into Oprah.
Ah!
He didn't get her a job, she got him a job!
True.
Completely true.
No one deserves this award more than Oprah Winfrey.
But no one needs it less!
That's good, right?
Oprah Winfrey is so rich!
She's so rich, China owes her money!
At this point, Barack's like, he's turning around, that's really funny.
Oprah Winfrey's so rich!
He's so rich, if Oprah and Paul McCartney had sex, the SEC would have to approve it.
That's a good joke.
Eh.
Eh, it was alright.
I thought it was pretty funny.
I'm sure the rock is hilarious, but all that's missing is the court jester outfit with the crazy hat and the striped shirt and the whole thing.
Hey, John, something just happened that hasn't happened in a long time.
By the way, it was the Oxygen channel that Oprah owned.
Something just happened that hasn't happened in a long time.
What?
You went up an octave on Skype.
I did?
Yeah.
You're on the Helium Skype.
Oh.
That hasn't happened for a while, so I wish I had something I could read.
It's okay.
Just be yourself.
It's really good.
Do a review of something.
Give me some of that CES. I'm choking.
I don't know what to do now that I've got this voice.
Come on.
You could do it.
Read a story.
I've been drinking Helium.
Come on, man.
Read a story.
Hello, John and Adam.
Please accept my double nickels on the dime donation as the last show was totally epic.
My friends and family all think this is a crackpot thing.
I'm a crackpot and I love it.
I have two email requests for you or two small requests.
I have two brothers so it works out.
Please call my brother Matt...
A douchebag.
All right, hold on.
You know what?
I think I'm just going to call you back just to...
No.
Oh, bummer.
The chat room was going, aw, shucks.
It was so cool.
Let me call you back, man.
It'll be well worth it, eh?
All right.
As funny as it is, I think we should have John in his full glory.
How am I doing?
Do I still sound funny?
You're doing good.
So, um...
Well, what about Matt?
He's a douchebag.
Douchebag!
We'll get to Craig's letter later.
So there's this story that's been running rampant about kids doing bath salts as a new form of drug.
Epsom salts?
Bath salts.
Not Epsom.
Bath salts.
What's the bath salt besides salt?
Well, there's a number of things.
So there's two things kids are now doing.
Ingesting bath salts and smoking potpourri.
Hey kids, eventually anything you smoke will make you high.
I mean, put a carpet in there and smoke it.
There's a lack of oxygen in the smoke.
Put a carpet in there and you will get high, alright?
Alright.
So, police say it's a drug problem and they can't do anything about it.
Ingesting bath salts and smoking potpourri have gained what police call a cult-like following in recent months.
Drug problem.
Yeah, well, here's what happened.
Because, of course, it's really bad stuff.
Police had a Kansas University student, Elijah Taylor, home on winter break, threw himself in front of highway traffic last week.
He said it's after he snorted the bath salts.
So apparently there is some chemical in the bath salt that can make you high.
Or make you nuts.
Let me see if I can find the...
Oh, by the way, it is the...
Oh, okay, here we go.
Uh...
Wow.
Hospital emergency rooms in every region of Louisiana have treated 84 people for paranoia, hallucinations, Tachycardia?
What is that, like heart palpitations?
Louisiana Poison Center now receiving four to five calls a day.
There's just a whole Google page filled with stories about this.
What's wrong with these kids?
It's sold under brand names Ivory Wave, Ocean Charged, White Lightning, Scarface, Hurricane Charlie, Red Dove, Cloud Nine, White Dove.
And these are labeled bath salts.
And products are labeled not for human consumption.
Hello, hint.
In other words, these aren't salts.
These are actually homebrew drugs that are sold as bath salts.
I think so, yeah.
So the chemicals within the products sold as bath salts are mephedrone, Does that ring a bell with you, John?
Methadrone?
I don't know what methadrone is.
And methylenodeoxyprovolerone.
MDPV. You can mock me for pronouncing names poorly, but your pronunciation of chemical names is hilarious.
So do you know what that is?
No.
Well, how do you know I'm mispronouncing it?
I know you're mispronouncing it because I can hear what the words are within what you're trying to say.
Let's have the MAC... Hold on.
Let's see if the Mac can pronounce it.
I don't know if I can do that actually through this.
Let me see.
Sure you can.
No, I can't.
I can't.
Not the way I've got it set up today.
Oh, that's too bad.
Yeah.
So what is that?
Methylenodeoxyprovolone?
I don't know.
Okay.
Well, anyway, kids...
Well, I got the Merck index.
Hold on a second.
It's right over here by the other...
It's MDPV and kids are snorting it along with smoking the potpourri.
And this is a problem.
All right, finally.
Don't forget, we've got the Merck Index here on the show.
Spell that for me.
It's methyl something?
Yeah, M-E-T-H-Y-L. Wait, wait, wait.
This is a big book.
Hold on.
I've got to get to the M's.
Right.
No, this is really the methyl what?
Is this going to be worth it?
It's probably soap is what it is.
No, no, no.
Methyl what?
Methyl, E-N-E-D. Methyl, E-N-E-D. I-O-X. Wait, wait.
What?
Methyl E. I told you, we made a big stink about this.
About having the book, right?
Yeah.
Can I just spell the whole word for you?
Yeah, then I can look it up on the side.
M-E-T-H-Y-L-E-N-E-D-I-O-X-P-Y-R-O-V-A-L-E-R-O-N-E. Jeez.
Methylenideox...
It's bath salt.
I'm telling you, it's going to turn out to be bath salt.
Crazy.
So this apparently started in Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom as you're looking that up.
It's the new legal high.
Ivory Wave.
It's sweeping Britain.
This is a story from 2009.
Ivory Wave?
Yeah, that's the brand name of these bath salts that the kids are snorting in England.
I've got to get me some of this.
Let's see.
Gitmo Nation Down Under.
Gitmo Nation Down Under.
It's happening there.
Aussies snort.
Super addictive.
Ivory Wave.
Ivory Wave.
Got to get me some.
Worse than cocaine.
Illegal.
Illegal.
And cheaper.
Fox 2 found stores pushing the potentially dangerous drug.
So have you figured out what it is?
No, because the spelling you gave me is a little dubious.
I'm going to look it up.
Okay.
I just thought it was entertaining.
Yeah, let's outlaw that stuff.
Let's get the kids off of it, off the ivory wave.
Get them on a marijuana or something.
You've got to legalize these things.
Get them on a real drug.
This is stupid.
I agree.
Get them on a real drug.
This is no good.
No, this is just poisoning the youth.
Yeah, ivory wave.
Nuts.
Yeah, well, there it is.
You can look it up for yourself in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com.
The former cocaine user who says he's been clean for years told us he tried snorting Ivory Wave.
How clean is he?
He tried snorting Ivory Wave.
I'm clean, but I want to snort some Ivory Wave.
I'd say it's ten times more powerful than cocaine and lasts ten times longer.
And your teeth are mighty clean.
It's too powerful for me, says the cocaine user, and I'm a grown-up man.
I'm a grown-up.
Huh.
Wow.
Okay, well, that's not good.
As we look back on 2010, it's been...
We should do a retrospective show on Sunday.
Yeah, and that'll be the second.
Everyone's going to be talking about the new year.
No one will care anymore about...
Oh, that'll go.
The retrospectives go on for weeks.
Really?
Well, there's a retrospective that...
I'm going to play you the promo, actually.
It's something that we were all over from the beginning, and of course it's completely gone away.
No one talks about it.
It's a Dutch production from Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
And you can watch it online.
You'll find the link to the YouTube video series, since it's four parts, so YouTube only lets you upload like 10 minutes or whatever, under Gitmo Nation Zloty.
And it's about Poland.
And, well, I'll play this promo for a second, which is kind of the opening of this piece, because the piece is in Polish with English narrator and English subtitles, translated subtitles.
But it's about something that happened this year that has just been kind of forgotten.
Hello, friends.
I write you this letter from Krakow, Poland.
Most likely, after you will have read my letter, you will conclude that I'm crazy.
Or at least that everything in this letter is preposterous.
And you know what?
I even hope that you are right.
And this is just a hallucination, or at worst, a nightmare.
Nevertheless, at this moment, I myself and most of my countrymen are deeply concerned and uncertain.
Maybe history will prove that our anxieties are false, that we have a natural tendency to paranoia as a part of Polish soul.
Maybe.
I hope so.
But for now, let me tell you about my worries.
They start on April 10th.
So, do you remember what happened April 10th, John?
Wasn't that the guy from Yo Agenda?
I know it sounds like comic strip blogger, who is from Poland, by the way.
No, but this is about half of the elites, half of the government was wiped out in one plane crash in Russia.
Yeah, we discussed this, including the gunshots that took place to kill the rest of the ones that didn't die in the plane.
Exactly.
And so this is an outstanding, outstanding piece of video, I have to say, produced with government money in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
And just really, really good.
It's called A Letter from Poland.
And, you know, when you look at where Poland is on the map, I encourage you to do that from time to time.
Just pull out.
We have the thing called Google Earth.
And you'll see that there's a reason why they have skepticism and, what did he say?
A part of the Polish soul?
Well, they're worried.
Yeah, I would think.
They're perpetually worried about stuff.
Yeah, well they are.
I don't blame them.
So, just something great to watch if you want to kind of wrap up the year.
Feel real good about yourself.
Actually, I have kind of a retrospective show in a way.
By the way, it's pronounced methylene-dioxy-pyrovalerone.
And what is it?
I don't know.
I can't find it in the book.
Well, how do you know how to pronounce it?
It's not in the book.
Of course not, because it's in Johnson& Johnson's stable of cleaning products.
It's not a drug.
It's soap.
It's soap, John.
It's soap.
Get with it.
So I've been continuing to follow what's going on in Haiti.
And I have a reason for that.
Because, of course, who was it who did the big benefit for Haiti, John?
Who was that guy?
There was a couple of guys.
Very, very big, big guys.
Yeah, who was that guy?
Well, there was a guy named Clinton.
Yes, that's one guy.
He was a former president of the United States.
Yes, who was the special envoy to the United Nations.
I believe he was president after President Humphrey.
And then there was another president who was involved, Bush, who was helping.
Bush, Bush, Bush, yes, correct.
And what did they say?
Uh, just send us your cash.
Now right now, all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, we just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
So they had, uh, there's another guy.
Who did the big benefit?
Who was that, John?
The big benefit.
You know, the big one with all the stars.
No, with all the stars.
It wasn't Bono.
Was it Paul McCartney?
Who was it?
Clooney.
Clooney.
George Clooney.
Right.
He's the number one guy.
He's the go-to man.
He's the go-to guy.
We'll be talking about him later today.
So, Haiti had elections.
And they were disputed.
By the way, no Anderson, Vanderbilt, Cooper.
No one's on the ground.
No boots on the ground.
No one walking around.
No more live reports about all the billions of dollars that have not showed up and people still live in tented areas, as Clinton calls it.
But because the elections were disputed, the results have to be reviewed by the OAS. Do you know what that is?
The OAS? The Office of Animals and Shelters.
You're not being serious today.
It is the Organization of American States.
Oh yeah, right.
Wasn't the United States kicked out of that group?
Well, what's interesting is there was a guy who was kicked out of the OAS, kind of a high-ranking official, a Brazilian diplomat, He's actually been kicked out of the OAS. He's been kicked out of Haiti altogether because he was criticizing what happened during these elections publicly in Swedish publications.
By the way, the Swedes, by the way, are really doing a pretty good job of reporting on the atrocities that's going on there.
And there's a huge article linked in the show notes.
And what I found from this was a report from...
Our Canadian friends at CBC who actually did a very good job of reporting on the elections in Haiti and I feel compelled to share that with the group since this is, you know, remember what we got here in the United States and in Britain and in the Netherlands and Germany and all these places where we send all of our money, we texted our $10, oh I feel so much better now.
And so a year later, everyone's still in tents.
We're pooping out everything because we're poopitout.com full of cholera brought in by the UN. And here's how the election sounded.
This is a retrospective report from CBC in Canada.
...consider today's presidential election critical for the country, but it was rife with problems and widespread allegations of fraud.
The CBC's Paul Hunter is in Haiti to cover the election.
Paul...
Now, this was reported, by the way, about fraud, right?
So what do you think that means, John?
When you think, oh, there's some fraud.
I mean, do you think...
Well, I would think that it means somebody is stealing money.
When it comes to an election...
Oh, when it comes to election, it would mean that people were getting credit for votes that didn't take place, or there was some people being paid to vote, or the whole thing was rigged.
Here we go.
Well, tell us what you saw today.
I saw ballot stuffing, Wendy.
I saw ballots torn from the ballot boxes.
I saw angry election officials, angry candidates, angry voters.
I saw the kind of election people here hoped this would not be.
Hey, where's Anderson Cooper with that report?
Hold on a second.
Wait a minute.
Where's Anderson?
Where's anybody?
I never heard this.
This was in what country was playing this report?
Well, what's wrong with the U.S. of A? How come we're not developing these sorts of stories?
Because we don't want anyone to know about this, because this is going to be our...
Oh, because we're the suckers who gave Clinton all that money.
Yes, exactly.
And we've got to build our hotels there.
I get it.
And take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.
Get in line, he's saying, at this downtown polling station.
But they've been in line for hours and not a single ballot has been handed out.
It's a government trick, he says.
The government doesn't want us to vote.
Outside, tensions ratchet up.
Voters shout at UN soldiers, including Canadians.
Across town, at a pole in the Citi Soleil slum, a different kind of problem.
To get your ballots here, you can do one of two things.
You can get them the proper way from election officials and mark them and put them in there, or you can pick up as many ballots as you want from any of the variety of people we've seen just handing them out to anyone again and again and again.
So you really have to see this video, which I'm amazed is not on CNN. I'm missing Anderson.
You see they've got these ballot boxes which are basically plastic aquaria with a little slot on top and there's nothing in it.
A guy walks up with a fistful and stuffs a whole bunch in.
And the report goes on for five minutes.
Just about rampant.
You even see the ballot boxes lying in the gutter.
Let me play a little bit more.
It's so crazy that this is not being reported on at all.
But we're about to go through exactly the same thing, and that's why I'm bringing this up.
Carefully at the bottom of the screen as ballots are handed off so voters can vote again.
How many times has this man voted, we asked?
Many times, he said.
These people tried to stop us from videotaping it.
But we saw ballot stuffing nonetheless.
That hand has a wad of ballots so thick it can hardly fit in the box, and there are more ballots in his other hand.
Okay.
So let's just go through the genesis of this.
So almost a year ago, we had this huge earthquake, right?
Yeah.
And just by coincidence, everyone was doing training exercises right in that area.
Remember that?
Yep.
That was really coincidental, right?
Yeah.
So then we pulled all our guys out, we had like 30,000 US troops, and then we had our huge benefit shows, and everyone's like, oh, we are the world, we are the children, everyone's sending billions of dollars, Clinton and Bush, and now we fast forward a year later, and all we're waiting for is for the shill government to be put in place, which is Jude Celestine.
And he will essentially hand over control to the United States government.
No, no, he's handing it over to Clinton, not the U.S. government.
I'm sorry, you're right.
You're right.
To Clinton.
To Clinton, who then will subsequently build his hotels, his tax haven.
It's his favorite place.
Yeah, it's going to be awesome.
It's where they had their honeymoon.
We have to remember some of the back story.
Yes.
You can still stay at that wonderful hotel, by the way.
Yeah, it's still open for business.
So we're about to see something very, very similar.
And it's important to see the players.
So we caught this about a month or two ago, George Clooney hanging out with President Barack Obama.
And it's about Sudan and Darfur.
And we, of course, being the suspicious guys that we are, say, oh, wait a minute, what's happening here?
And I think you were the one that came up with his dad looking like a spook.
Are you with me, John?
Yes, his dad does look like a spook.
Okay, well, I'm waiting for you to chime in at any moment and help me with the story.
You're on a roll.
You're kind of moving it along.
Okay, all right, good.
I'm letting you go.
All right, so then we find out, of course, that his dad is part of the American University, and that's the whole media shill system is there.
In fact, you even told us that...
The famous speech by...
Was it Roosevelt?
No.
Eisenhower.
Eisenhower about the military-industrial complex.
Initially was the military-industrial academic complex.
So we connected all those dots.
So now it's time for Clooney to sell it.
Because he's got to sell it.
Something's going on in Sudan.
Something's going on in Darfur.
And Clooney's the man.
He's got to go in and sell this thing.
And so, did you get this article emailed to you, John?
Maybe a couple times?
Take it.
About George Clooney teaming up with Google and several other celebrities.
They are going to be watching through satellite technology movements of what is happening in Sudan.
And he has a website for this.
It's called Not on Our Watch.
You can find it at notonourwatchproject.org.
And here it is.
Board member George Clooney, the world is watching.
New satellite Sentinel project aims to deter war in Sudan.
A new human rights project initiated by Not on Our Watch board member George Clooney will combine satellite imagery analysis and field reports with Google's Mapmaker technology to deter the resumption of war between North and South Sudan.
Launched today, the Satellite Sentinel Project will use satellite imagery analysis and crowdsourced mapping to monitor the tense border between North and South Sudan.
Okay, so what does all this mean?
First of all, it sounds really high-tech, like George has got some kind of amazing shit going on, and he's going to be looking at everything, and he's our man in the sky.
He's the eye in the sky.
George Clooney is going to make sure that there's no bad stuff going on.
How many people have been killed in Sudan and Darfur?
Oh, lots.
Millions.
Two and a half million.
But why?
What is it about?
What is going on in Sudan?
If we were to guess what it's about, what is the fractal that we've been doing on this show, probably since its inception, and one of the easiest ones, is you look up the name of the country, and then you use the two words in Google, oil near.
That's right.
So, Sudan is basically, it's one big oil pit with sand on top of it.
And the thing is, is that most of the good oil is in the southern part.
And now there's a referendum to split the country in half because, well, there's evil Muslims up in the north.
Who harbored bin Laden, by the way.
They're terrorists up there.
Terrorists.
Terrorist bin Laden to hold them pirates.
And they're controlling the oil in the south of these poor peaceful people.
And so we must split the country in half and we're going to monitor it with Google satellites just to scare the crap out of you just in case you're trying to pull a fast one.
And we're going to split the country in half with a referendum of people who probably never voted in their life.
January 11th referendum.
Let me guess.
That's the point you're making about the Haiti election.
This is going to be very similar.
I'm getting it.
I'm getting it.
It's falling into place.
Ka-ching!
And then the money will be flowing.
Right.
And it's just amazing when you see...
Because what, of course, is needed is, as this is taking place, this referendum was set up in 2005 as part of the comprehensive peace agreement, big joke, which was decided by the elites in The Hague.
This is how it works.
Like, you get a bunch of Africans in Sudan that didn't even have heard of The Hague.
And then The Hague is like, oh, we have a peace agreement here.
And then January 11, 2011...
Love that, by the way.
1-1-1-1.
The elites laughing in your face once again.
They're going to hold this referendum, which, of course, it's going to kill tons of people.
Oh yeah, but a lot of people are going to die on this.
But in order to sell it, in order to sell it to the slaves, the stupid slaves like us, we've got to get our guy Clooney in.
And he's the go-to guy.
He's the go-to guy.
He's also hanging around some creepy guy that we discussed before.
Well, I got it here.
So he's got, first of all, on this NotOnOurWatchProject.org, he brought in Don Cheadle, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Jerry Weintraub.
Actually, let's play a little game, John.
Let's play a little game.
Which name does not belong in this list?
George Clooney, Don Cheadle, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Jerry Weintraub, or David Pressman?
Who the hell is David Pressman?
Bada-bing!
Right off the bat, John.
Great!
David Pressman is an American human rights lawyer, according to Wikipedia.
Former aide to Secretary of State Madeline Albright.
He advises a number of highly visible individuals on foreign policy and related advocacy strategies.
And he served as an advisor to Secretary Lucy Napolitano and chief of staff to Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security.
Recently, he was appointed by President Barack Obama to serve as director for war crimes and atrocities at the National Security Council at the White House.
And he will coordinate the government's efforts to prevent and respond to mass atrocities, genocide, and war crimes.
Yeah, he's the handler.
He's the handler.
Exactly.
And so, of course, there's nothing at all on this website about, you know, you can donate.
But why do they need donations?
I'm looking at the stats.
Sudan, which is the third largest oil producer behind Nigeria and Angola.
And by the way, this is never mentioned in any of the stores.
Once in a while it comes up.
But they're producing without our help.
I mean, in other words, we do have some, obviously, foreign oil companies there, but they're not obviously cranking it up to the max.
Right now, they're producing 490,000 barrels a day, which is $100 a barrel, is $40 million a day in oil.
Yeah, exactly.
$40 million a day in oil, so you're going to donate to this group, to the Sudanese, when they're making $40 million a day in what they can pump out of the ground?
Exactly.
Watch the fractal.
Watch what will happen.
It will come around 1-1, 1-1-1-1, which is just unbelievable that they have this referendum on the 11th of January, 2011.
There's going to be huge killing going on.
Huge killing of innocent people.
And then we're going to have like, oh my god, we need a, what should we do?
Oh, let's have a little telethon for them.
Let's send them some money.
So we all feel good about the elites killing black people for oil.
Actually, the notion that everything is, you know, the reason that a lot of charities work is not to really do any good, but it's to make the charitable person feel good.
Feel good.
It's to make you feel good.
It's exactly what it's for.
So you don't have to think about it.
Well, I did my part.
I sent him a hundred bucks.
Those of you in Gitmo Nation lowlands who have been following this...
Every single year, there's a bunch of DJs.
Wacky DJ stunt.
They get in something called the Glass House.
And it's a house made of glass.
And they broadcast for like a week non-stop.
And they don't sleep or eat or whatever it is.
And people egg them on by donating money for Darfur.
It's been going on for years, this.
For at least...
At least four years that I can recall.
Maybe even longer.
You need all that money so you can fly Clooney around in a private jet.
Yeah, along with Brad and Matt Damon.
Those things are expensive.
Yes, it's like $6,000 an hour.
But if you look at the links in the show notes, and I've assembled quite a number for you, you'll see the CIA activity in the Sudan been going on since the 80s.
Of course, because there's oil there.
Well, it's worse than that.
I mean, the real reason, by the way, that they're bringing in the heavy hitters, in my opinion.
It's because China is theirs.
China's coming in for the oil.
China is now nosing around.
Oh yeah, they're handing out guns.
Yeah.
They say, hey, give us your oil, and here you have some Chinese guns.
Yeah, that's why.
Because this is what's happening in Pakistan.
it's the same thing the chinese come in with like a 25 billion dollar package and all we've got is like oh seven billion yeah we don't need to assuage i mean the chinese don't need to assuage their public like we do we have to come up with a bunch of you know cover stories and all this other cluny and all these other things to make everybody feel like that something important is happening that's why we're throwing money at it where the chinese don't have to do that they don't care.
They just go do what they have to do and the public over there doesn't pay any attention.
They're more concerned about local politics.
And that Jabroni thing, Network for Good, there on the back end of this once again.
These are the guys that we saw on the last...
What was that thing we were looking at, that other fundraising thing?
I don't know.
Oh, yeah, yeah, with the knighthoods and all that.
Oh, right, that thing with the knighthoods.
Right, Network for Good.
They stole our knighthood concept.
Yeah, groundspring.org, Network for Good.
These are the guys that are doing all the transactions.
And they say that they return $25 to the sector for every $1 invested in Network for Good.
Sounds bogus.
Well, that depends on your definition of the sector.
Exactly.
Raised over $270 million in online donations.
Boy, that makes us look like a couple of chumps.
Jabronis.
Total losers.
So there's a couple of, you know, of course, Google's in on this.
The UN is in on this.
Because they have to be.
Because we're going to have to send more UN people in to make it look good.
Google can't not do it because they're, you know, the good guys.
Yeah, they're the math guys.
They were strong-armed into it.
I don't believe for a minute that they came up and volunteered for this job.
No, no.
But they love it, though.
It's a great PR moment.
We asked Google to help us and they wouldn't.
So they're letting the Africans die a miserable death, those Google horrible and do-no-evil Googlers.
But you hit it right on the nose there, John.
The whole idea is...
So, just so you know, and if we had known about the earthquake machine hitting Haiti, we would have been able to call that one as well.
It's not about the people.
The people are there to die, and they have to...
Yeah, thank you, darling.
And they have to die because we have to get the oil and we've got to clean these pesky people out of the way because they're living on the oil.
Go away, you slaves!
Go away!
So we have to kill them.
And it's unfortunate, but that's the way the word works.
Where are these people?
They're living on the oil.
Rouse them!
Yes!
Take in some bad news Muslims and kill them and blame it on them.
Well, that's what they're going to do.
Because there's already the Al-Qaeda on the Sudanese Peninsula.
You watch Al-Qaeda in Darfur.
Which one will it be, John?
Will it be Al-Qaeda in Sudan or Al-Qaeda in Darfur?
I think it's already been named.
I think it already is.
Oh, it is Al-Qaeda in Darfur?
No, I think it's Al-Qaeda in Sudan.
No.
I don't know.
That's not catchy, though.
I have to go back and look at the list.
That's not as catchy as Arabian Peninsula.
The Arabian Peninsula is the best one.
Yeah, they need some more marketing.
I mean, that's set the stage for the rest of them.
But you can just watch, you can watch, and then you'll laugh later as all the stupid human resources in the non-African world helps to make them feel good about the death that is going to take place so that we can drive our cars.
Beep, beep.
George Clooney will put together a couple of initiatives and a couple of benefits, and all the entertainers will come in, and we'll all feel good as we text some money to these other guys.
That is how it works.
And I think that in 2011 we'll see this happen a number of times and we'll probably have talking points about it eventually.
It's very complicated because it's hard for people to understand what it's about.
It's always about the oil.
Because there's money involved.
Yeah, how many times have you heard about Darfur?
Like, oh yeah, wow, this really sucks me.
Yeah, there's like warlords and stuff going on there.
And why are they running these people out of the country?
No one ever asks the question.
It's because the Muslims hate these people.
I don't know.
The whole thing, the thing that's bothering me the most about this is that somebody, this is obviously studied, and somebody is tightening up the cycle.
The cycle of doing these benefits used to be a long one.
They used to be, you know, the...
USA for Africa.
USA for Africa.
These different concerts that they throw.
Hands Across America was my whole time favorite.
It was going to end homelessness.
This was in the 80s, I believe.
And everyone was going to grab hands.
And all across the entire country, you're going to hold hands.
But there was all kinds of holes because you couldn't get over the Rockies.
And there was all these issues.
They never did do the thing right, but they claimed they did.
And this was all going to end homelessness.
It didn't end anything.
And homelessness with the guy who put it on.
But the cycle between these things has been moved closer and closer almost so they can have a weekly event.
Yeah.
But we need that.
I guess they figured out that the public doesn't...
They're stupid snookered so much that they don't even care anymore.
They just, you know, they get to get a guilty conscience and they throw money at it by texting.
No, but it's getting better now because now as a part of all banking and as a part of credit cards, they're doing this in the UK.
They're trying to roll this out nationally where every purchase you make, every purchase you make a piece of that will go to the good cause.
So they can have this rolling.
This is what Bob Geldof is all about.
And apparently there was some great documentary in the UK. It was on the BBC. And I can't get it on their iPlayer.
But it was like, it's all about Bob Geldof and the other guy.
I forget his name.
And how they really started this rolling.
These guys, they are so in.
And meanwhile, it's like, oh, Sir Bob or St.
Bob or whatever.
But you're right.
They've tightened it up and it's just going round and round and now we're actually going to take money out of every purchase you make to keep that thing going, which is the feel-good foundation.
If you want to feel good, send us some money.
Yeah, we're the ones that are broke.
Yeah, well, not quite broke, but yeah, two weeks of no agenda away from being broke.
We're not getting $200 million like these other guys are getting from all these, you know, Whoever's donating, I have no idea.
I mean, I'm sure that most of the people that donate to our show are not donating to these other initiatives because they, you know...
They might.
They might.
Well, maybe they would.
I mean, every once in a while I hear something, I go, well, that's a pretty good idea.
You know, I feel like donating to something and I have to look into it.
I mean, most people don't do that.
That's the problem.
So Geldof was in the Boomtown Rats?
Is that this guy?
Yes, he did I Don't Like Mondays was his number one hit.
His only hit, I think, the Boomtown Rats.
And so did he take a page from Bono, or what's the deal with these guys?
They're both kind of from the same region.
But I think Bob has been around longer than Bono.
You know, Bob's got his thing.
Bob's doing his watch commercials with Jimmy Wales.
So he's spinning his goodness out.
That's okay.
The guy's got to eat.
I mean, if you really want to look into all of Live Aid and USA for Africa, the whole joke of it is we were going to end all this horrible stuff in Africa with the first Live Aid, which, by the way, was a spectacular media event.
Well, so is Hands Across America.
Don't kid yourself.
Handjobs Across America.
Now, there you go.
The chat room was already organizing that one.
Live Aid was held on 13th of July.
This is how long ago.
This is when it began.
1983, I think, wasn't it?
1985.
1985, right.
It was organized by Bob Geldof and Midge Urie.
Midge Ure of the Ultravox.
To raise funds for the relief of the ongoing Ethiopian famine.
Right.
Which, by the way, the Ethiopians are now well-fed by Monsanto.
Hey!
That's right!
Still has the global juke.
By the way, so they're not hungry anymore, they're just malnourished, which is kind of the irony of Ethiopia.
Yeah, they're doing groovy now.
Billed as the Global Jukebox, the event was held simultaneously in Wembley Stadium in London and the John F. Kennedy Stadium in Philadelphia.
Do you know that there are some listeners of this show who were not alive and did not witness Live Aid?
That's how long ago it was?
Yeah, it's a long time ago.
It's 25 years ago.
26 almost.
Then we had USA for Africa, We Are the World, we had Band-Aid, and it all includes the same people over and over again.
And I think we've mentioned this before.
And every time they do it, the money gets moved over somewhere.
They make a bunch of money on the album.
Somebody makes a fortune.
Just so you know, because I think we've mentioned this before, but We Are the World, which was written by Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, a couple other people.
But most of these big benefits, the money from the rights only goes to the cause for like three years.
Then it reverts back to the artist, or to the author, the composer and the author.
It's not in perpetuity by all means.
But there's always complaining after the fact that where did the money go and we need some accounting and they never get it.
Of course not.
Shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.
Listen to the performers that got into this.
Do you remember Phil Collins got on the Concorde?
He started in Wembley, and then they flew him on Concorde to Philadelphia, and he played.
It was amazing at the time.
We're like, wow!
He was in England, in London, and he played there, and then he got on this really fast plane, and he flew all the way to America, and he played there again in the same day.
It was amazing!
We had no internet.
We had no cell phones back then.
Man, they had everybody.
Mick Jagger, Crosby, Stills and Young, Madonna, Tom Petty.
I mean, you name them.
Sade.
Yeah, it was awesome.
David Bowie, The Who, Elton John, Paul McCartney.
Let's not get off track, you groupies.
So, maybe we should just thank some people who are making themselves feel good by supporting us.
Are we halfway through the show?
Yeah, we're halfway through the show.
No, we talked about one thing.
No, we talked about a whole bunch of...
Well, this was a big one.
This is a huge, huge thing.
It's a huge scam.
At least people are going to get it.
Wait a minute.
Let me just see what Clooney is saying, what you can do.
Maybe we can learn something for the pitch.
Clooney says, you can make a difference.
Stay informed.
Call on your elected representatives to take action.
Educate your community.
Make a donation to support emergency and life-saving programs.
There we go, John.
That's it.
John, I would like people listening to the show to make a donation to support emergency and life-saving programs, namely ours.
Yes.
Seriously?
No, I think people should, and stay informed.
He's actually plugging our show.
Thanks, Georgie.
Oh, my goodness.
Unbelievable.
Okay, so we can just wait for it.
We can just wait for the atrocity to take place, and then we'll have the big benefit.
And I wonder who's going to be headlining the big benefit this year.
Who can headline a Darfur benefit?
I don't know.
We've got to have some African vibe.
Maybe that guy from Haiti will even be a thing.
Oh, man, maybe.
So anyway, let's thank some people.
Look up the Cohen letters.
There's two of them that I was reading earlier, but I blew off my browser.
The what letters?
The letters from, if you look at Eric's second note, or his first note, one of the two.
He, one of our donors, who is...
I don't know what you're talking about.
Craig Cohen.
Go look up Craig Cohen.
He's got two emails that he sent for his donation.
They're not in the spreadsheet.
I can go look him up.
I'm going now.
Because you can do it in an instant with whatever it is you've got there.
Well, not in an instant, but it does go pretty fast.
So let's thank a few people, including Lois Whitman Hess.
Lois Whitman is actually a major PR person in New York City.
She gave us $111.11.
I want to thank her.
Todd McGreevy, she's actually one of the great PR women that actually worked today.
If she was in Hollywood, they'd probably try to kill her.
Hey, I got it.
Todd McGreevy, Davenport, Iowa, $111.11.
Thank you guys for your commitment and discipline to inform and entertain so we loyal listeners in the May live semi-sane.
I don't know what that means.
Anyway, now let's go out and propagate the formula.
Just like a missing word.
I got Craig Cohen's email.
Okay, we're going to get right.
We'll get to him shortly.
There should be two letters from Cohen.
There's two of them.
One of them is interesting because he mentions the fact that he had to do a report on something we discussed.
No, I don't have that one.
Oh, well, he used our documentation because our show notes are so extensive.
And they are.
And students out there who listen to this show should, every once in a while, if you need to do a report or something, go back, if you can find the show that we did something, or take notes, and you will find all the research done for you that will allow you to do some pretty spectacular stuff.
It's all part of the package that we deliver to you.
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Mm-hmm.
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I can get that one.
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That's so nice.
Let me give him some karma there first.
I haven't done any karma yet.
You've got karma.
He deserves that.
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I think it's Leif.
Wouldn't that be Leif?
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By the way, my name is pronounced with a very long A, not like Leaf.
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I hope I can get some karma.
There you go.
I was working on a few goals with him in the new year.
You've got karma.
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Make sure you read the note there, John.
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I do.
You just looked it up.
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Isn't this the one you read?
My friends and family all think I'm crackpotted.
I think you just read this, didn't you?
Well, I was reading it as...
Oh, then it went away.
Okay, okay.
I have two brothers.
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He needs to listen, but he does not.
Douchebag!
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We're having a huge bash at his place, and I'd love him to hear this.
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UK, I thought we mentioned last year, but it's a donation for working over Christmas, $50.
And also we have a lesser donation, but it was interesting, from Jeff Wheeler, which is the proceeds from an eBay auction for his breathalyzer.
Right.
He gave us $33.66 from the auction.
Thank you so much.
So he should make sure that...
He wants to encourage everybody to give us more, which I second.
Okay, then we have a couple of make goods.
Not quite sure how we...
This was when we had the big technical issue, I think.
Yeah.
A couple shows back.
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Thank you for your $55.55 double nickels on the double nickels donation.
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Double nickels on the dime.
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The new Spook Central, Colorado, also double nickels on the dime.
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And then I believe, John, we have to sharpen up our knives.
Do you have yours?
Hold on.
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You know what you can enjoy.
It's over here.
It's Rent Boys, Cabernet, Hookers and Bloch.
It's all in one place.
And we really appreciate you supporting the show in that manner.
I mean, think about it.
You could have given money to Haiti and have it do no good.
Well, it would do some good for Clinton.
He needs the, you know, it's expensive flying around in a G5. Yeah, it is.
Well, he takes that from his Chinese donations to his library.
And by the way, people who are wondering, I get a lot of email about that.
It's MailSteward is the program I'm using for that rapid recall of emails.
MailSteward.
It's really quite an amazing little program.
Steward?
As in, yeah, Steward.
Not in John Stewart, but Steward.
Okay.
And it stores all your email.
Is it only on a Mac?
Yeah.
Sure?
Yep.
You're absolutely positive.
Yes, and it stores all your email in a SQL database and the retrieval is smoking.
There's got to be an equivalent on the PC. You know, I can't even...
No, it is not because the reason why is it is extremely inefficient to store your email in a database if you're more than one person.
If it's just one guy and it's your own database, it's amazing.
So there's no scale to it.
But this guy who's a listener who listens to the show, by the way, after I paid him, You paid him to listen?
That's not right.
No, I paid him for the software.
Oh.
Because you can try it on a free version.
He actually did hook me up, I have to say.
I bought the pro version.
He said, no, no, no, I'll send you that money back.
So I did wind up paying him at least for some of it, thank God.
But he's now listening to the show.
He's like, oh my god, you guys are amazing.
But go check out his software, MailSteward.
It actually works.
It's better than Google.
It's just it doesn't scale to a huge amount of email like Google does.
And it's only on the Mac, as far as I know.
But the concept can easily be ported to Windows, and it's just someone has to do it, and he did the work.
That's what I like about it.
It's a search algorithm.
Yeah, well, it's a sequel.
That's all it is.
So, you know, I'm so convinced now that someone in the White House listens to this show.
Hello, by the way.
Welcome to the program in the morning to you there at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
We know you're listening because no sooner do I start bitching about the president not being able to stop smoking.
After Robert Gibbs, on the Robert Gibbs show in the morning, said that the president was not proud of his smoking just three weeks ago.
We played that sound clip on the air, because it's been a little over three weeks since Mickey and I have stopped smoking.
Now it's like, you know, it's like, oh, this is a big deal.
We've got to tell everyone the president stops smoking.
And Gibbs is out there lying, lying, because you know he hasn't stopped smoking.
But now...
On the last show, I played the sound clip.
We're going, well, I haven't seen any evidence of him smoking for nine months.
So, of course, we call him on that.
Now, finally, he comes out.
Now, he just gives us the bold-faced lie.
So, there's a tweet today.
Something to announce about the president and his maybe past smoking habit.
I love this.
Robert Gibbs was tweeting.
No, I got to tweet this.
Those damn guys from No Agenda.
I was asked, I was doing some questions on Twitter.
I was doing some questions on Twitter and people were saying, hey, I know agenda.
They say the president's a pussy.
What are you going to do about that, Gibbsy?
This morning I was asked whether the president was still smoking and I can report that it's been probably about nine months.
Probably about nine months.
You know what?
I know exactly the date that I stopped smoking.
Anyone who stopped smoking can tell you to the day, to the minute, to the second when they stopped smoking.
True or not?
I don't know.
Oh, please.
He last smoked a cigarette.
He has done enormously well in quitting.
He's done enormously well in quitting.
What does that say to you, John?
That he's still smoking.
That means he has failed.
It's a commitment that...
You quit or you don't quit.
You don't do enormously well.
No.
He's done enormously well.
The guy just can't help himself lying here.
He's letting it be known that he hasn't stopped.
Well, listen to him.
Listen to him.
...well in quitting.
It was a commitment that I think he made to himself at the end of health care and with his two daughters in mind.
He hasn't quit.
Have him come out and say it.
Say, I, Barack Obama, have quit smoking.
Then I'll believe it.
Yeah, that would be the way to go.
Because right now, Gibbs, they're at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
In the morning.
I'm sorry.
I should actually...
The language you understand there...
That's what you guys...
You speak Chinese.
Chinese.
You know, you do his pandering to the Chinese.
Hey, I'm Barack Obama!
We should play more of that.
Maybe we can get some guns from the Chinese.
We got a letter from a guy in China.
Yeah, that's true.
He says it's almost impossible to get a PayPal payment out of China or send money out of China if you're over there.
He says it's a nightmare.
We find that to be a problem with a lot of our foreign contributors.
Yeah.
Hey, man, you haven't played one single one of your clips.
You haven't asked.
John, do you have any clips for today?
No, I've got none.
You've got nothing at all.
I have a couple of interesting things.
If you don't mind saying so yourself.
You want to play the new 2011 Shantix ad?
Oh!
Yes!
Now they're playing it the same, you know, they're lightening it up a little bit.
They got a Boston-sounding woman, so she sounds down to her.
She's very pretty, but she's got that annoying Boston accent that makes her sound like she's a housewife.
Is she of MILF quality?
Yeah, definitely.
Well, you would think she's dying.
She's definitely that 10-point MILF-er by your standards, and I know what they are.
I'm not It's just interesting.
Can we just remind people about Shantix?
Yes.
Before we play this, by the way, this is not an ad for the show, obviously.
Shantix is an extremely dangerous product that is on the market to keep people from smoking, and they soft-pedal it on these ads, even though the disclaimers are all in there.
We have plenty of documentation, including Mickey there at the Watchtower Command Center, who has tried this stuff, and it's not to be used.
It can make you crazy.
It can make you kill.
It can make you kill yourself, kill others.
You will wake up naked in your neighbor's backyard not knowing what happened, not knowing how you got there.
That's the only good thing that can happen.
And so it says you might...
I'm just guessing that they'll say you might have some crazy dreams.
Oh, yeah, the dreams are ready.
And the only way to get off this stuff is to start smoking again.
So if you are smoking this...
If you're smoking...
If you're smoking...
It's better to snort bath salts, okay?
They have changed the pitch a little bit, I have to say, because I was listening.
They've changed the pitch where now, apparently, I don't know, if I'm not mistaken, the old way was you took the Shantix and you stopped wanting to smoke and you stopped immediately.
This new pitch wants you to keep smoking.
Oh, even better.
While you're taking Shantix and then ease yourself off.
Now, I think the original Shantix had a similar system, but you wouldn't want to smoke.
No matter what.
Play it, play it, play it.
That part works.
Anyway, please, if you're on this stuff, get off it now.
Light up a cigarette and then just...
And by the way, I have some stop-smoking things to talk about after this.
I do remember sitting down with my boys, but I'm like, I promise mommy you'll never ever pick up a cigarette.
I had to quit.
My doctor gave me a prescription for Chantix, a medication I could take and still smoke while it built up in my system.
Chantix is a non-nicotine pill proven to help people quit smoking.
It reduces the urge to smoke.
Some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping Chantix.
If you notice any of these symptoms or behaviors, stop taking...
If you see something, say something!
Mel Gibson, get off the Shantix!
Take Shantix and call your doctor right away.
Tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which could get worse while taking Shantix.
If you develop serious allergic or skin reactions, stop taking Shantix and see your doctor right away, as some of these can be life-threatening.
Don't take Shantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it.
Dosing may be different if you have kidney problems.
Until you know how Shantix affects you, use caution when driving or operating machinery.
Common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping, and unusual dreams.
My Benjamin, he helped me with the countdown.
Ben, how many days has it been?
Five days, Mom.
Ten days, Mom.
I think after 30 days he got tired of counting.
It's a new year, so ask your doctor about Chantix.
And find out how you could save money on your prescription.
Go to Chantix.com to learn more and get terms and conditions.
Yeah, this of course is the bonanza period for guys like doing the Chantix.
Because the first of January is when everyone wants to quit.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's a dynamite marketing scheme.
These guys are, I mean, the product is what it is, but the marketing people are just on it.
It's amazing.
You know, Mickey and I quit cold turkey.
We are now, in fact, Sunday it'll be one month since we've been smoke-free.
You know what the only issue is, and I'll just speak for myself because I don't speak about women like this, but you get really bloated and constipated.
If you've been smoking for a long, long time, like I... Yes, 30 years of smoking, and I've been looking online, and this is a common problem, because your whole body is kind of in this mode of the nicotine is processing everything, then all of a sudden you don't produce as many, I don't know, gall or whatever the hell it is, and it's just, it's been atrocious.
You've got plenty of gall.
Yeah.
Whatever you call it.
Stuff in your stomach.
And it was really, really, really bad.
Finally, stuff is starting to work great.
Yeah, but this has been a month.
And I've read some people...
That's funny, because I never knew that.
And I've read stories of people...
Never discussed.
Well, no, because it's kind of...
Who wants to say that I can't poop?
And let's be honest, anyone who listens to this show knows that I'm a regular pooper.
And I pride myself on my pooping.
And now it's like, this has been a real...
You go for like three days?
That's horrible.
Your stomach gets all bloated and then go into some mouth.
That's my advice.
It doesn't matter what you do.
Nothing helps.
I've been reading stories of people who actually started smoking again.
It got so bad.
So they can poop?
So they can poop again, yeah.
Wow.
But you never read anything about this.
At all.
Unless you start looking for it.
But anyway.
That's an interesting tidbit I learned on that No Agenda show.
I think I shall donate to them.
I think they should.
And by the way, we forgot to mention that to donate, you go to Dvorak.org slash NA, ChannelDvorak.com slash NA, or TheNoAgendaShow.com, and help us out, because it's a short week, a short week in terms of nobody's listening to the show, so our donations are down.
So let's pick up the pace for next year.
Now...
And thanks to everybody who came in at under the $50 mention level.
All of our $5 a month subscribers, our lucky $30, our 33-33 boarding pass donors.
Thank you to all of you.
Our five by one, that's a big one for us for this year.
And after the show today, the stream is going into maintenance mode.
People have already noticed some differences.
For 2011, this stream at noagendastream.com, besides it being actually possible to listen to it because we've had severe issues in the past couple weeks, I think we're doing a little bit better today.
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Daily Source Code, by the way, also financed by your donations to Dvorak.org slash NA for the No Agenda Show.
All of that, it's what we do for you.
And we're happy to bring it to you.
Yes.
So after I got that commercial, I ran into an interesting situation, which I think may evolve.
There is a, I ran into another commercial for an over-the-counter drug product, sold like Chantix and all these other, you know, with all the disclaimers, except the disclaimers in this case is more of a sales pitch.
But they've decided that this model of a long, boring commercial, in this case it's talking about discomforts, Which is like, I never heard of the word used like this before.
But discomfort is like, not being able to poop is one discomfort.
This may be actually about your problem.
And it's a commercial called, which you can see we will play, which is fashioned after the prescription drug model.
And I found it fascinating that someone would try to pull this.
That's like doing a Bayer aspirin commercial.
You know, done as though it was a dangerous drug.
Nice.
I began to have several discomforts with my digestive system, like gas and bloating.
This is me!
Thank you, John!
That's what I said!
This is great!
The Shantix thing and the whole...
This is perfect!
It all fits together.
Here we go.
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So it's clinically proven, but it's not an actual drug because there's no disclaimers.
Right.
So it's just poopitout.com stuff.
Yeah, it's just basically a prune ad.
Ha!
But the way they played it, instead of the...
No, no, I like it.
They had this bubbly guy.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Discomforts is very...
That is a very interesting use of the...
Because discomfort, if you have discomfort, but this discomforts means you have more than one poop problem.
It's just some sort of...
Adam, do you have discomforts?
I have massive discomforts, although it's getting somewhat better without the help of any type of medication.
It's just your diet.
You've got to adjust your diet.
Fruit.
Fruit.
Fiber.
And we all know on this show, John, you care about my fiber.
I've always cared about your fiber.
I'm worried for you.
Thank you.
I feel pretty good, though.
I just was a little bloated for a month.
Bloated?
For a month.
For a month, I'm telling you.
For a whole month.
I have an end-of-show clip, by the way, which I'd like to play at the end of the show.
Which is?
John Young of Cryptome.
Yeah, what about him?
So he actually, in this clip which aired on Russia Today, it's an interview.
Let me see how long it is.
Russia Today.
That's a long clip, John.
Shit.
It's really worth it, though.
He basically explains how leaks work.
He was one of the founders of WikiLeaks.
With Julian Assange.
So did you read the article?
Yeah, well, it sounds like something I want to listen to.
Did you read the article about somebody who did an analysis in one of the big newspapers about leaks that get into the media and that WikiLeaks, if you took all the leaks they've ever done, it's only like less than 10% or something like that?
Well, there's a couple things that I read.
One is the Ministry of Truth, NPR, actually came out with a statement, which I thought was interesting.
I'm citing from this December 28th.
In recent weeks, NPR hosts, reporters, and guests have incorrectly said or implied that WikiLeaks recently has disclosed or released roughly 250,000 U.S. diplomatic cables.
Although the website has vowed to publish 251,287 leaked United States Embassy cables as of December 28th, 2010, only 1,942 of the cables has been released.
So, I thought that was good that they did that, but it shows you.
What we need next from them is, many NPR host reporters and guests have incorrectly stated that Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been repealed.
That's the next thing I'm waiting for them to say.
Well, that ain't gonna happen.
No, it ain't gonna.
Even Joe Biden was sending out emails to everyone.
Hey, now that we've repealed Don't Ask, Don't Tell!
Lying sack.
So, no, I didn't read that.
I did read Haiku Leaks.
Oh?
Yes, haiku leaks.
Someone's gone through the trouble of making haikus of 1830 cables.
Would you like a sampling?
Yeah, might as well.
King Hamad flatly stated that Bahrain is not happy with Qatar.
That's a haiku.
Yeah, it's a haiku.
They are being seen as barometers for next year's nationwide vote.
So, there's a link in the show notes to the haiku leaks.
But no, I didn't see whatever you were talking about.
So, there's a clip I got on here called Helicopter Parents that we played.
The house was abuzz as I was making clips last night over this particular...
We have the weekend crew doing most of the stuff on MSNBC, CNBC, all the talking heads alphabet soup channels.
It's all the substitutes.
And actually some of the shows are now better.
Because their substitutes are trying to show off.
Oh, yeah, right, right.
But sometimes they don't have the good technical staff, so it kind of falls apart.
These guys, during the week, because on the weekends, yeah, the staff, they're not always working on weekends, but during the week when the substitutes take over, they're actually improving the shows mostly.
But anyway, there's just a report about what Ford's doing and how it got everybody abuzz about the fact that the next generation, not the generation, the millennials that we're dealing with now, where there seems to be no interest in working or actually doing anything other than reading and sitting around,
But the generation after that, which may be developing into a group that is dominated by helicopter parents, my daughter was mentioning that her high school that she goes to, the group coming up behind her, which is all helicopter parents' children, are just basically right now which is all helicopter parents' children, are just basically right now in the school system, in a lot of school areas, there's more The irony of this, of course, is that we've always said, oh, the parents should be more involved.
They should be in the PTA.
They should be doing this and that.
Now they are, and it's ruining.
The kids can't make decisions.
The parents are all over everything.
It's all part of a system change that's been taking place.
And this little report on a new Ford initiative kind of highlights where this is headed.
Remember driving your first car, the open road, cruising around with your teenage friends?
Your choice of tunes playing on the radio.
Well, forget that.
Ford Motor Company now not only allowing parents to control the keys, but the car radio as well.
The automaker announcing today a new feature that will allow mom or dad to block 16 channels on Sirius satellite radio deemed too mature for teenagers.
It means no more Howard Stern or Hip Hop Nation for teen years.
The censorship feature already allows parents to limit the car's top speed and audio volume.
It even keeps music on mute until that seatbelt is buckled.
All of which sounds okay for safety, but had us wondering what's next.
Will Ford give parents webcams for the backseat to make sure there's no hanky-panky at the drive-in?
That shit's un-American, John.
That shit's un-American.
So we basically got everybody chatting about this phenomenon of helicopter parents who are hovering over their kids all the time.
And my wife predicts, and everybody is in agreement with her, that by the time these kids get out of college, they won't be able to make any decision on their own.
They'll be just basically the worst kind of slave.
I mean, hopeless.
They won't be able to...
No, I think you're right.
And there's a lot of evidence to back that claim up.
And there's things happening on the other end.
As of January 1, 2011, 10,000 baby boomers a day will be entering Social Security.
10,000 a day.
Yeah, well, that's going to be interesting.
Is that what you were going to say?
Well, it's going to break the bank, that's for sure.
Now, while we're on this topic of these helicopter parents and the kids, I was watching one of the Dylan Rattigan show this week.
We had a substitute guy named Matt something.
They never said his name.
I got him clip after clip from this character.
Very good host, actually, except for his voice being a little high-pitched, and he doesn't listen very well compared to some people.
But there was this thing about the play the No Child Left Behind clip and they're going over predictions for the next couple of years.
So this guy comes on this show on MSNBC and he's making these predictions and he's progressive, the network's progressive.
He mentions that no child left behind is one of the things that's got to go because it's been a disaster.
It hasn't done anything and it's just kind of ruined the lives of a lot of teachers and it hasn't improved any students' abilities to think for themselves or to think better or to analyze things.
It's also put us in this testing mode so kids are only trained to take tests.
Meanwhile, of course, the guy, because he's trying to get a job at MSNBC because he's the substitute, kind of just almost like shorts out and tells the guy pretty much to be quiet.
So we've got six things that we know are going to happen.
Well, we think.
There's a problem with two of them.
No one pays attention to the president's budget.
No one ever has and no one ever should.
It's Congress's job to do the budget.
And then the second thing is No Child Left Behind is the worst piece of legislation ever passed by Congress of all time.
Why do you say that?
Because it did nothing to make our kids smarter.
Well, can the federal government really do that?
It did.
Do some things like...
Ask incoming speaker John Boehner who wrote it.
John Boehner?
John Boehner who wrote it.
Why would he go and do that?
Oops.
What is this?
Got a million things happening at the same time, John.
Help me.
Push the reboot.
Hit the control-alt-delete.
I don't want to reboot.
Try...
So, wait a minute.
Who is...
It's gone crazy.
It's just starting to play by itself.
I don't hear anything.
Yeah, no, you don't hear it, but I do.
You don't hear that?
Well, you're very low.
Your levels are weird.
Ah, shoot.
I can't stop this thing.
It's out of control.
I can't stop it.
This, kids, is why you shouldn't try to do podcasting.
It's too complicated.
It really is.
Okay.
So, you can hear the clip, though, right?
You heard the clip?
No, I only heard the beginning, and then when you started moaning and groaning, I stopped hearing it.
I'll just play it again just to make sure.
You can hear that?
Yeah.
Okay.
Here we go.
So we've got six things that we know are going to happen.
Well, we think.
There's a problem with two of them.
No one pays attention to the president's budget.
No one ever has, and no one ever should.
It's Congress's job to do the budget.
And then the second thing is No Child Left Behind is the worst piece of legislation ever passed by Congress of all time.
Why do you say that?
Because it did nothing to make our kids smarter.
Well, can the federal government really do that?
It did.
Do some things like...
Ask the incoming speaker, John Boehner, who wrote it.
John Boehner, who wrote it and asked Ted Kennedy...
That's so childish when someone makes a mistake like that to make fun of it.
No, I agree.
This is the guy trying to get this guy off this track.
That's really childish, but okay.
Fortunately, he has since moved on.
Well, the one thing I'd say though on No Child Left Behind, it doesn't do anything that really gets us where we need to go on education, but I give George W. Bush credit for unpacking the test scores of Hispanic and African American kids, because troubled schools or schools that weren't failing in total used to hide all the test scores of those kids, and now that's exposed to the light of day, which at least gives reformers at the grassroots level some teeth politically.
To be able to move on on this.
Well, these predictions, I'm sure, will be good for at least a couple of hours after we've announced them.
I think they'll be infallible, and we'll be looking forward to this.
Jimmy Williams.
I don't like that guy.
I don't like the guy at all.
No, no, you're talking about the host that jumped on this guy with the Baker.
Now, I agree 100%.
The funny thing is, you'd never do that.
I mean, you can do that if the guy makes a mistake and he drives it home.
He says, John Baker, and he keeps talking.
But he corrected himself immediately.
And then the guy jumped on him for making the faux pas.
And it wasn't funny.
I mean, if it was something funny, you could play off.
So the guy's a dick.
And he has issues.
That's a problem.
I agree.
I mean, when you say a good instead of well, you don't correct yourself.
I correct you.
That's the difference.
But I do it on purpose just to irk you.
Yeah, you say that.
I mean, well, if you said that, then I wouldn't say anything.
I mean, so that was a dickish thing to do.
So he's a host that – but you could tell that he was like, oh, wait a minute.
This is not part of our checklist, progressive checklist.
No Child Left Behind is actually a good thing.
One of the few things Bush did that was any good.
Yeah.
But it's bogus.
And one of these days, and when I really lace into this, the whole no child left behind is bull crap.
The entire charter school thing is bull crap.
All this stuff is bull crap.
The education system in this country stinks.
And that's one of the reasons that it came up in the conversation when we're talking about helicopter parents.
Anyway, that's a clip.
Just need to check one thing here, John.
Yeah, that part works.
You want more stuff?
Or have you got something?
I got a couple things.
So, I got a lot of emails from people who...
Well, it's the same basics link that I kept getting.
Three very large objects in space flying will crash into Earth in 2012.
Kind of around December.
From the Examiner.
Giant spaceships to attack.
Yeah.
And of course, you know, I'm like, hey, that's kind of interesting.
I think I will look into that.
And so it has been very well debunked.
I mean, there's a lot of things wrong with the story.
And I'm the first guy who wants to believe there's three blue ships flying towards Earth.
You know I desperately want to believe that.
Yes, most listeners know this.
Yeah.
You desperately want to believe.
Oh, yes.
Well, I do.
I mean, I believe.
I believe no matter what.
But I want these things to be true.
But this obviously was not.
It was actually a very good debunking, which I put in the show notes.
It is actually an anomaly on the lens.
And I really buy it because, you know, there's no guy at SETI named this way.
The whole thing is wrong.
But a lot of people like emailing that around.
However, it's important that these stories come out now because we have, on the way in 2011, Skyline, the Battle of Los Angeles 2011, Super 8 and Falling Skies, all great in alien invasion movies and shows.
V, of course, also...
On the way in the new TV season.
All coming out.
So that's why we have to have these stories in the media.
And this was actually sent by Josiah Thomas, a producer at No Agenda, who is very alert and says, oh wait a minute, when these stories start to hit, that's usually because there's some kind of great movie coming out.
So we've got five of them on the way.
There is one link, however, I'd like to mention.
And this is a photo that was found, of course, through excellent sleuthing on the interwebs, of the Mars Exploration Rover.
Which actually has been dead.
They're starting to remove pictures from the NASA site, which is always suspicious.
And they apparently can't reach the rover anymore.
But there's this one picture.
It's the rear Hascam Sol 2169.
And I swear to God, you can see a base sitting there on the surface of Mars.
I'm telling you.
This is the Spirit front cam.
And there's a base.
You can literally see the base sitting right there.
There's a base on Mars.
And now they're removing these pictures from the NASA website.
So, not believing these flying saucers going to hit the Earth in December 2012, definitely thinking there's something going on with the base on Mars, which the Spirit rover photographed, and these pictures are now being pulled off of the NASA website.
Why else would they pull these pictures off?
I don't know.
It doesn't make any sense.
Exactly.
That's my point exactly, John.
Maketh no senseth.
Well, I got a transitionary clip.
Okay.
Play French guy babbling.
Alrighty, here we go.
French guy babbling.
Nicolas Sarkozy himself and his deputy were very critics against the two journalists, Hervé and Stéphane, saying they took too many...
What the hell is this guy saying?
Where is this from?
It's from democracy now.
That's excellent.
I love it.
...risk.
So we have the feeling it was not a priority for the French authorities to secure their release.
And this is the reason why we're so angry today and why the family of the two stages is so angry as well.
Huh?
Yeah, that's what I said.
Huh?
That goes out to all the two French...
Folks, neither of which live in France that I recall, who've donated the show over the last two years.
I think we just ridicule the French constantly because of that.
Well, they're in their own world, you know.
They are, which is good.
I mean, it's a nice place to visit.
We have Sarkozy out there saying once again, oh, I think we should implement the SDR. Yeah, Sarkozy's off on the deep end with this, you know, let's dump the dollar.
And I think he's up for being, I think he's putting his life at risk.
And I'm putting on the no agenda predictions that Sarkozy's either going to be out of office or something bad's going to happen.
Really?
He can't do that.
Wow.
We're not going to, only during this economic crisis.
When we can print money, and since the dollar is the currency, the reserve currency for the world, allows us to control the economies of everybody, we cannot move from the dollar to anything else, and anyone who suggests it or promotes it or anything else is up for us.
But that's not entirely true because this has been part of the G20 initiative for a while.
That's only just lip service, but there's nobody serious about it.
Well, but like Sarkozy, I mean, he's obviously, it's lip service from him, too.
Yeah, but I think it's not approved lip service.
I think there's a difference.
Oh, really?
You think he's just shooting his mouth off?
Yeah, big shot.
Oh.
That's what I'm thinking.
I'm just thinking, because this is not a time that we can do anything like this.
I've got a couple of other clips we might be interested in.
One thing, there's a series of Robert Reich clips, which are kind of interesting.
Now, where do I know this name from?
He's the ex-Secretary of Labor under Clinton.
He's now a professor at the University of California at Berkeley.
He's that real short little guy who actually gives very entertaining speeches.
But he falls into the trap of accusing corporations...
A wrongdoing in a way that is too obvious and it all leads to his concept and many progressives think this way.
That the only way out of this mess that we have with all these politicos that have sold out to large corporations is to do campaign finance reform, which misses the entire point.
That's never going to happen because the media is the beneficiary of these extremely expensive campaigns.
And the media, what are they going to do?
Shoot themselves in the foot?
They don't make enough money as it is.
And the media is the one who eventually will pull the plug on anybody who talks about campaign finance reform.
But let's play these Robert Reich clips and we can get kind of into what he's currently promoting.
Cenk, one of the problems, and I don't want to tar all Democrats with this, but at least some Democrats, with regard to campaign donations, are drinking at the same trough as Republicans.
They're going to big corporations.
Earlier this year, the Supreme Court, you remember, said in one of the worst Supreme Court decisions in history in Citizens United against the Fair Election Commission, that corporations are people.
And they're entitled to provide as much money to campaigns and to politicians as they want.
Otherwise, their First Amendment rights would be a breach.
Well, you can't have it both ways.
You said earlier, and I agree with you, that corporations are not people.
They are just machines.
They are just designed to maximize profits.
If we actually treat them as people and say that they have First Amendment rights to undermine and corrupt our politicians and our political process, then we're really in trouble because they don't really represent America and Americans.
Well, they keep calling them American companies or even corporate America, but do these so-called American companies have any obligation to America?
Hmm.
Okay, well, we've heard this before.
Yeah, and I don't want to hear it again.
Let's change the topic.
I made my point earlier.
Here's one that's interesting.
This is the Germans who are having a big debate in Germany.
I got this off of Deutsche Welle.
Which you listen to all the time, of course.
What?
You listen to Deutsche Welle all the time.
So you don't have to.
Yes, of course.
And this is the laughable profiling debate in Germany clip.
And it talks about what's going on there.
They're having real serious debates in Germany about trying to speed up their – they have a TSA problem there too.
And they want to take the Israeli approach or some people have suggested it.
But everyone says no, no, no.
And it's never going to happen in Germany because it would hurt somebody's feelings – Essentially, they're worse off than we are.
And I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they're still guilt-ridden over what they did to the Jews in World War II. No, that's not true.
Not anymore.
Play the clip.
Hello and welcome.
Germany's justice minister has rejected a proposal for airports in the country to introduce passenger profiling as a way of making air travel more secure.
Sabine Leuthäuser-Schnallenberger says she thinks the idea contravenes German and European laws on equality.
The proposal would see passengers screened according to risk groups and limit rigorous checks to those thought to pose a threat.
The German Airports Association argues similar checks are already in use at Israeli airports and would speed up passage through security if critics have blasted the method as both ineffective and discriminatory.
Well now our correspondent John Berwick is standing by at our parliamentary studios.
John, where did these proposals and these demands come from and just why are they so controversial?
Well, security has been stepped up at public buildings in Germany, including, of course, airports in recent weeks, since the intelligence services here received information of a concrete terrorist threat.
That was some weeks before Christmas.
And, of course, that's involved the airports in further delays.
I say further delays because, of course, the snow here has caused already chaos in air traffic.
But it's also involved them, of course, in additional costs.
And that's presumably why they've made the suggestion to create profiles and to concentrate on the more likely suspects.
Now, John, have these ideas yet found support?
No, they haven't.
On the contrary, they've been quite vehemently rejected and I think there's very little chance that they'll be adopted for two reasons.
Firstly, the terrorist organizations can in fact use the system of profiles to their own advantage simply by choosing recruiting people who do not fulfill the criteria of the profile.
Secondly, you'll remember earlier this year we had a very heated debate here in Germany about the problems of integrating ethnic minorities.
And there is a strong feeling that if you create a profile, a terrorist profile, that involves criteria such as ethnicity, age, and gender, that you're going to make certain sections of the German population feel discriminated against.
Worse still, perhaps, some people would argue that it would be in violation of the German constitution.
Are they just like six months behind or something?
Yeah, at least.
But let's go over a couple of memes that are in here.
Yeah, for sure.
One...
The terrorist organizations are going to, the reason this won't work, by the way, although it still works in Israel, but that's beside the point, is because the terrorists are geniuses and they're going to reverse engineer what the profiling is and they're going to quote-unquote recruit people who do not meet the profile.
In other words, cheerleaders, donut makers, people that obviously are not Middle Eastern terrorists.
Because they have a recruiting arm, and they go out and go, well, there's somebody that doesn't look like one of them, so let's get them to join our cause.
This is bullcrap.
I mean, the fact that the only guys that they have, you have to be a Muslim Islamist extremist in the first place, but they're apparently out recruiting people, which is essentially...
terrorist issue that we have here, which is a bogus issue.
The other thing that's kind of interesting to me is they talked about the intelligence found concrete, they used the word concrete, terrorist threats for Christmas, which, by the way, there was an actual Christmas attack, which was not reported except in, you know, I think they reported which was not reported except in, you know, I think they reported on some foreign broadcasts of some out of the And you can play it.
Christmas bombings did take place, and it was completely, nobody wanted to talk about it for various reasons that are obvious.
But play the Christmas bombing report, and you'll know what happened.
Yeah.
And staying in Africa, a radical Islamist sect in Nigeria has claimed responsibility for the Christmas Eve bombings and attacks on churches in the country, which left at least 86 people dead.
In a statement on the group's website, the sect Boko Haram said it carried out the attacks.
Police say the bombings and subsequent clashes between armed Muslim and Christian groups in the central city of Joz killed 80 people and wounded more than 100.
Six others died when two churches in northeastern Nigeria were firebombed on Friday.
Yeah, I of course did see this report and did notice it.
Weird stuff going on in Nigeria in general.
But of course the only reporting we get on Nigeria here, as I heard, I think it was even on NPR last night.
I was in the car and I heard him talking about someone getting scammed thinking they were going to get $23 million from some Nigerian princess.
That's all we get, yeah.
Well, there's been definitely a suppression of any Islamist versus Christian news worldwide.
So they kill 90 people or 96 or whatever with additional dead people because they're bombing churches.
And it doesn't get covered at all.
But meanwhile, we crank up the security here and in Germany and I guess elsewhere because they got wind of something that was going to happen.
Concrete.
Maybe it was concrete, but it took place in Nigeria and then they never reported on it.
I find this distressing.
In what way?
Well, in the same way that it's been distressing since we started doing this show, where the news is selectively – news selection is based on just finding ways to suppress the public, not giving them any follow-up information – Maybe this was the concrete terrorist threat in Nigeria and Africa.
I mean, are we always jumping to conclusions that everything's going to be in our backyard when we hear something over the chatter that's going on on the Internet?
It's the chatter.
I tell you, it's the chatter that's going on.
Did you hear the new GX2 track, by the way, called Tidal Chatter?
No.
Yeah, no.
Once I get everything fixed.
Play that after the long clip.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Now that everything's broken, I'll be sure to be playing all of it.
Oh, you won't be playing anything.
And now, back to real news.
I know you've got a real news clip.
Yeah.
Why don't we do that one, and then I've got a couple real news thingies for you.
So, I just got this.
Apparently, the Spider-Man show is, you know, which is financed by Bono, your buddy.
Oh, really?
And Edge.
The Edge.
The Edge.
They're financing the Spider-Man movie?
The Spider-Man play in Manhattan is to the tune of $65 million.
Wow.
Set it up, but it looks like it may have to close because they can't see...
No, because it probably does suck.
But because one guy's been seriously injured and now the main lead actress got a concussion.
What are they doing?
It's a play!
They're swinging around on ropes and they're doing all kinds of fancy shit that apparently was designed mostly by Hollywood stuntmen who couldn't go and do any of the work in New York because of the unions.
Which is under-reported, by the way.
A lot of people say that this show is so high-tech and so weird that the people that could actually operate all the equipment were told to get lost because they're not in the union.
Oh, okay.
And so the union guys are doing all of this, and nobody really wants to...
How about sabotage, eh?
You think there may be some sabotage?
Well, there could be, and they may be trying to bust the union.
It could be just the opposite of what I'm thinking.
I mean, you never know with these things.
But apparently...
It's at the verge of closing, but this report is kind of funny because the guy who reports it actually contradicts his own...
You can play it.
It's quite funny at the end.
Spider-Man.
And the show on Broadway seems like it is just star-crossed and now star-left.
I mean, Natalie Mendoza, yes, she's just leaving it.
Yes, the lead actress who plays the villainous in the show, who is considered one of the highlights of the show, is leaving.
You know, she had a mild concussion from an accident.
There's already been so many accidents, including the actor who was badly injured last week.
Why do they always have to get the guy who does the theater reviews to be so overtly gay-sounding?
It's offensive to me at this point.
It's like, are we so stupid that we don't know you're a theater expert, but you have to sound that way?
It's always the same.
You know, it's even worse than that.
You know, I was in Florida recently.
There's a couple of really good channels, radio stations that have really good morning zoos in Florida.
Hey everybody, how you doing?
Yay, yay, yay!
Good morning!
It wakes you up.
Yeah.
And the guy they bring on to do the reviews of anything is this incredibly outwardly flaming gay.
It's insane.
It's a stereotype that's got to go.
It's a stereotype that is insulting.
I'm sure it's insulting to gay people.
Oh, I'm sure it is.
It's just insult.
It's like, oh, please.
You know what?
If you actually knew something about theater, then I'd respect you for it.
But now it's like, all right, let's finish this report.
It just keeps going down and down and down.
This is a show that just can't get off the ground.
Her last performance was on Monday, December 20th.
The production said she's been on vocal rest since then under doctor's orders.
But, of course, she was shaken as well by watching her fellow castmate get hurt then last week.
She wrote on her Facebook page that she's grateful to be down to two nausea tablets and four painkillers per day to cope with a concussion.
I don't know.
Do you think that anybody would want to go buy tickets now to see the show that keeps having problems?
Well, it's interesting because some people, in a very sick, twisted turn to all of this, say that they want to see it to see what's going to happen.
It's almost like going to an equestrian show and wanting to see who's going to fall off the horse.
Wow.
I mean, of all the things you could say, like how about going to NASCAR to see a crash?
No, he got the horse, but here's the funny thing.
He's bitching about people being sick.
Now listen to how he finishes when she says that nobody does that.
Listen.
A little sick, but there are people that have said that.
I never go to see the horse show to see that.
Okay, Reese Witherspoon.
When I was a kid, that was the best part.
Oh, really?
It's like hockey.
You want to see the fights?
I got it.
Exactly.
Reese Witherspoon engaged.
It's just good.
Big Us Weekly Scoop.
Thank you very much.
Yes, absolutely.
Kill it.
Wow.
Anyway.
No, he says that you have to be sick, and then he says that's the best part.
In my real news, a TV program brought to you by Discovery Communications, that would be the Discovery Channel, titled Michael Jackson Autopsy.
Like the alien autopsy.
What really killed Michael Jackson is exactly what it is.
What really killed Michael Jackson is so sickening.
I mean, can we make any more money off of this poor guy?
He's not poor anymore.
He's dead.
You know what I saw?
We were visiting some friends for Christmas Eve for dinner.
And they have young kids and they've got this adorable little boy.
He's like four, maybe five, and he's completely nuts about Michael Jackson.
He can do all the dances and everything.
There's actually a game for the Wii called Dance Like Michael Jackson.
Wow.
Yeah, and so they've taken his videos and tons of his hits, and then you hold the controller in your hand and you have to do all the dancing.
I mean, all of this stuff just comes out.
They're making so much money on his death.
Well, he was the leading moneymaker last year.
Yeah, I know.
Dead.
Yes, dead.
Makes more money dead than alive.
That should be a clue for you.
And I have an update on our Hollywood Whackers.
Ronnie Chasen, i.e.
Ronnie Cohen, former Soviet spy.
This is from a new website, which I encourage you to look at, called Wikispooks.
And there's yet a new theory on why this PR lady was killed.
Sources close to the art museum community in Los Angeles County believe Chason was murdered because of some sort of involvement in or knowledge of a scheme by police officers with access to federal fusion center intelligence to steal artwork from museums and extort money from donors and owners.
These same sources, and this is actually what I heard, note her involvement with her client, German film score composer Hans Zimmer, who has been named as a victim of illegal U.S. espionage efforts against German citizens.
So this is going deep now.
Geez, this is getting crazy.
It's getting good.
It could be a smoke screen.
Well, I like the idea of police officers trying to steal artwork.
Well, it makes some sense because the guy that was the bicyclist that supposedly shot her, who was killed or committed suicide.
Yes, one of those.
The police were involved in that investigation.
And it was quite likely.
And there's been movies on the police in Los Angeles.
They've always had a sketchy...
A character about him.
I live here.
They're great.
They're great.
I live here, man.
Are you out of your mind?
These guys will kill me in a second.
Yeah, he was running away from the scene of the crime.
He had, you know, it was a fugitive.
Curry, we got him.
Damn, man, don't do that.
Just saying, right?
Yeah, no, I don't blame you for being concerned.
I am very concerned.
To wrap it up here, unbelievable, this article, that there's a Belgian Catholic priest, that should set off alarms right there, who is a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize this year.
Has now come out and admitted child abuse 40 years ago.
He abused an 8 year old when he was a priest.
And he's still a nominee for the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize.
He won't get it.
We won't get it, but how about we lock him up or throw him in a loony bin or do something?
I mean, Belgium, this is the home of Dutroux.
This is the epicenter of the pedophile pedo-bear networks.
So what do you expect?
It's just horrible.
Is this a shock to you?
You're stunned.
Yeah, I'm stunned that he's nominated and still a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize.
It's not a fact that he won't win.
You know what?
Crazier, he will win.
Let me tell you that.
He's going to win.
That's how in their face they are about this stuff.
Hey, watch this.
We'll have him win.
You sound like Bush.
Yeah, well, he's part of that whole plan.
It's part of it.
It's sickening.
So the Afghan war, according to one of these talking heads, I think we knew this number, but it's $2 billion a week.
It's costing the American taxpayers.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, that's a lot of baby boomers we could provide with Medicare.
Two billion dollars a week.
And whose numbers are these?
Isn't this the war that Obama was going to get?
Wasn't he elected to extricate us from these wars by all these liberal Democrats who want to end these wars and he wanted to get us out?
And so they voted him in to do that and then he just increased it and made it worse?
No.
I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do.
I will get our troops home.
We will bring an end to this war.
You can take that to the bank.
You can take that to the bank.
Just taking it to the bank.
And wasn't he going to, wasn't he, the first thing he was going to do when he got in office was closed Gitmo, wasn't he?
Wasn't that something he promised to get all these people to vote for him?
You can take that to the bank.
You can take that to the bank.
I'm just wondering.
I mean, I'm just asking a theoretical question.
You're just asking questions.
No, no, no.
Instead, we get the food safety bill passed, S-510, and I have to say, very nice of the, I think this is, what is the name of this site?
Naturalnews.com.
Remember I told you that this thing was filled with all kinds of shenanigans and was really, really bad.
They've gone through more of the bill, and there's just one little bit that I hadn't mentioned to you.
About our food safety.
And here it is.
Food safety modernization.
Didn't they throw the word modernization in it?
Yeah, of course.
It's the...
Yes.
Modernization.
There's another Zation thing in there.
Um...
Here it is.
Recommendations on whether and how to harmonize requirements under the Codex Alimentarius.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, yeah.
It's right in the bill.
You and that Codex.
Yeah, well, we started on that early, right?
We knew all about it.
Well, one of the first things we did when we started doing this show four years ago.
So that means just like in Europe, dietary supplements will be outlawed.
You won't be able to have any vitamin D, vitamin C. It's all going to go away.
You know, the dietary supplement thing is interesting because I think there's a secondary intended consequence.
To make people sick.
No, I think it's also to get right-wing talk show guys off the radio.
If you go, we were trying to sell a radio show to somebody some years ago, and the guy said, look, the way it works nowadays, the guy said, you're not going to get anywhere.
He says, you can't get syndicated.
He says, the whole business is being held up by people selling weird, phony baloney snake oil on the radio.
Right, like colloidal silver and stuff like that.
Yeah, or now it's a lot of gold that's a rip-off, and not going out and really buying ingots, but subscribing to some service.
And now, of course, the thing that's really caught on is this food.
Storable foods, yeah, storable foods.
Storable food will last 25 years.
Why do I want to buy a bunch of food that I want to last 25 years and spend my money on this?
I mean, you know, come on.
And jump in the car and drive to some place where there's food.
Keep your gas tank more than half full and you should get out of the area.
That's it.
Keep some seeds.
I think the seeds is still a good idea so you can grow some food.
Yeah, have some seeds around.
But apparently this bill is just the most onerous thing and it's going to shut down a lot of small farms.
Oh, it's already doing that.
Organic farms is going to shut down.
The organic people who are all liberals should be up in arms about this because it's a Democrat that put this in.
But, you know, who's paying attention to that?
It's going to shut down organic milk and raw milk for sure.
Those guys have got...
That's already done.
Yeah, that's already done.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
So Monsanto can be force-fed crap.
Well, there's actually really interesting news on the Monsanto front.
Neotame, which of course is the aspartame product, has now been approved for use as a sweetener, and it goes under a new name, Sweetos.
How did I come up with it?
A sweetener for cattle feed.
What?
Yes, well, molasses apparently is used as a feed sweetener to, of course, mask the taste of the crap that we're feeding to the cattle.
You know, because cattle are not stupid.
They're like, what is this crap?
Yo, Mo!
How am I going to eat this?
Ooh, nice and sweet.
It tastes like molasses.
So now Neotame, under the brand name Sweetos, has been approved as a cattle feed sweetener.
Yay!
20% cheaper than molasses.
Yeah, 20% cheaper than molasses.
It's available in both powder and liquid form.
And it's good for you.
So now that's going right into the cattle.
This is just more reason to find somebody, get to it, find a farmer, find somebody that grows their own meat, and throw money at them.
We grow meat here.
We just bought a bunch of, we just bought a half a cow, and it's like, you pay, like, the total price is like a buck fifty.
I mean, it's really a lot, it's really a way to save money and get a quality, you know, some quality food, because it's an organic field, you know, the thing's just grass-fed, and there's not...
They're not screwing with it.
And anybody that's got some access to the rural America, you can eat like this and you eat cheaper and better and you don't have to worry about being poisoned.
It's terrible.
Well, guess what?
That doesn't include us.
We're just going to get poisoned.
I ain't got any of that down here.
I got no farmers around here.
There's farmers down there.
Yeah, well, Google one for me.
I'll go visit them.
All right.
I'm sure there's somebody right now, there's one of our listeners saying, are you kidding me?
Out here in Visalia, we got two guys that grow meat.
I would love nothing more than to get me a half a cow.
Ah, frozen.
Will they chop it up for me as well in bits?
No, they cut it for you.
What do you think?
You're not a butcher?
No, that's correct.
It goes to a professional butcher.
You tell them what kind of cuts you want because you can orient it toward French cuts or you want more of this or you want more bones.
I mean, you have to tell them what you want.
And then they cut the thing up and then they wrap it and then they...
Oops.
You have to have a big freezer.
You have to buy one.
And then you throw the meat in there, and then you pull out stuff as you need it.
Oh, here's a couple of filet mignons.
I'll pull those out.
Nice.
How long can you keep that frozen?
Forever?
A couple of years.
Easy.
Oh, okay.
Good.
All right.
I think I'm going to do that.
You should.
Somebody down there must have a clue.
It is possible.
If you can drive to Big Bear once a year, you can drive out to your farmer once a year.
I'd be happy to.
All I need is someone to tell me where to go.
I'm going to go get me half a cow.
$1.50 you said?
Is that all it costs?
$2.50 max.
For half a cow?
Yeah, you get a lot of scraps and stuff in there, but believe me, it's cheap.
It's way cheaper than what you're paying.
The cheapest meat you can typically buy is like at Costco, where there's a lot of $1.99, $2.99 stuff.
It's cheaper.
It's just cheaper.
Mickey just said, if I want to poop, I shouldn't be eating meat at all.
That makes no sense.
That makes no sense, Mickey.
Yeah.
Anyway, there's somebody in there, one of our producers in Southern California has, knows, has access, they have the...
I think I've just been denied the meat.
I think soy, I'll be eating soy.
Soy, my brain will be shrinking.
Oh, great.
Shrunken brain.
Shrunken brain.
We'll be doing this show mostly babbling.
Yeah.
As opposed to...
Right.
So, end of show clip will be John Young, co-founder of WikiLeaks, who of course split off after he published a whole bunch of emails about WikiLeaks and their fundraising.
He didn't like it.
But it's really...
This is from Russia Today.
It's a very interesting insight into the leaking industry.
And it's a long clip, 11 minutes, so if you don't want to listen to it, you can always fast forward or just stop the show.
But I think it's highly entertaining.
I think, John, you will like it.
Normally you go, ah, it's too long!
But it's a very good clip.
And it's just him talking in an interview situation, so that's nice.
And I guess we won't see or talk to anyone until the new year, 2011, so keep those donations coming.
The 5x1 donations, which of course will be on the same day as the death and destruction in Darfur, which is great.
So we'll keep our eye on that, along with George Clooney and his eye in the sky.
And any New Year's resolutions, John?
Anything you want to share?
No, I'm going to lose another 15 pounds.
Wow.
Well, that's a lot.
Yeah, well, I've got a year.
Right, okay.
And my resolution is to get everything on the stream all set up and not have stuff crashing.
I was almost good today.
Almost.
Because I've got a lot of plans for NoAgendaStream.com for 2011.
And, once again, we'll have two shows a week throughout the entire year.
Who knows?
We might even get that primer done one of these days.
Yeah, we've got to do that.
That's the second New Year's resolution.
Lose 15 pounds, get half a cow, and do the primer show.
There you go.
Well, John, if I don't talk to you by then, which of course is likely to be the case, have a very Happy New Year, my friend.
And Happy New Year to everybody who listens to the NOGEN. All the producers out there, we want to thank you for supporting us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And next year should be a beauty.
I agree.
Because we're in a growth market.
Pissed off people is a growth market.
Totally.
Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the last show for 2010.
In the morning, everybody, I am Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where the traffic's backed up for some unknown reason, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back in the new year on Sunday for early morning service right here on No Agenda.
Please join us.
Before there was ever WikiLeaks, there was Cryptome.
The website Cryptome.org has been publishing information prohibited by governments.
This includes classified and secret documents on U.S. soil since 1996.
Now, the co-founder of that site joins me now to tell us more.
John Young, I want to thank you so much for joining us.
As I said, Cryptome.org has been in the business of making government secrets public long before WikiLeaks was.
Tell us a little bit about the history and philosophy of your website.
The site was set up principally to publish information about communication security, which is the fundamental technology for keeping secrets.
And it grew out of my participation in a group called Cypherpunks.
Which was also a group where Juliet Assange learned his skills.
And so this group was composed of very highly educated engineers, scientists, and technicians who were mostly working for corporations and government on the technology of communication security.
And they knew that this was going to come into the private market as the Cold War wound down, and they wanted to get information out to the public about what was coming.
So we set up this site to make that information available from people who had access to it but did not want to be identified as a source.
Now, in all of the time that you've been doing this, it's attracted the attention of the FBI. I've read that you've said that FBI agents have come to visit you.
What do you think their surveillance is about?
They use our site to see what's going on, and so it's something that we've learned about sites like ours.
They're left in place in order to watch who comes there and see what kind of information we put up.
Government authorities run these sites of their own, and they watch other sites like ours.
We've learned this over time, is that the reason we haven't been shut down is we're useful to them to see What kind of attention is paid to this material?
We think they actually feed us material to put up as they're feeding information to WikiLeaks and many other sites that operate the same way.
But in terms of their being able to see everything we're doing, we know that we cannot keep any secrets about our site and we tell our readers, you should not expect us to protect you because we're being watched and every other site is being watched just like WikiLeaks is being watched.
So there is no secrecy on the Internet, and we make that clear.
That's the lesson we've learned, and we now try to spread that, that you have to be very aware of the Internet, which is a very large-scale spying machine.
What really, really motivates you, though, to expose these secrets?
Why is this your vocation?
Why do you feel strongly that this needs to happen?
Well, because secrecy is the biggest enemy of democracy.
And it's way overdone.
And so threats to democracy are coming from the inside, from the secret keepers.
And that they need to be exposed.
It has become a huge industry.
It's extremely expensive.
And you can't criticize it.
You can't get access to it.
Because those who go inside that world are sworn to lifetime secrecy about it.
And they can never talk about it.
And I'm saying that's a system that is anti-democratic.
And it's a big business now.
Thousands of firms have been drawn into it since 9-1-1 because it's very lucrative.
And so we need to have less secrecy in Congress, less secrecy in the presidency, less secrecy in all forms of government.
Let me ask you this, though.
Some of your criticism is about not vetting information.
The addresses, for example, home addresses of CIA agents or detailed maps of government facilities saying that this is endangering people's lives, this is welcoming attacks and giving people, you know, details on how to commit them and that there needs to be some kind of distinction between what's acceptable to put out there for the public and what's not.
What do you say to those critics?
Well, I say to those critics that you're pulling the authoritative trick, acting like they know better.
We don't pull that trick.
We don't think we know better than ordinary people about how to judge information.
But we know that authoritative are always saying things like you just said.
You're going too far.
You're putting lies at risk.
There's blood on your hands.
Are you?
No.
Are you putting lives at risk by publishing the addresses of a CIA agent at home?
This has been going on for years and they always pull this.
We've been told by former spies, these are just standard reactions to this, to get sympathy for them.
They, in fact, will leak that kind of information themselves.
You should know that governments leak more information than all the rest of us put together for their own purposes.
Like what?
Give us an example.
Well, as they leak secrets, they get lax.
They run operations to leak secrets to test their own system.
Their own disgruntled employees are encouraged to leak secrets, and let's see what happens.
They leave laptops around as they're left behind by a drunk.
They leave papers around.
They put stuff on WikiLeaks.
These are all well-known techniques to alarm the public, create sympathy, and get more funding.
So this is a business.
And so we would like to say, well, why don't we talk about that?
Is there a better way to do that than to deceive the public about this?
Why don't we just own up to it?
For example, the U.S. military loses more secrets than another single organization, but they never admit it because they say that would aid the enemy.
We want to be candid about that, that your systems are leaking.
Talking about how the government will leak information purposely to test their systems or to garner more support.
Do you have an example of that?
Well, I can only say that there are schools to train people like Bradley Manning and doing just that on the Internet.
It's at Fort Huachucum.
This is one of their training syllabuses that we publish.
They actually teach young people how to run these sting operations by leaking information to test the system.
They have something called A-teams and B-teams.
that do combat on the internet by leaking this stuff.
They've hired hackers to do that.
Hackers, in fact, are favorite employees now of such groups.
And so this is talked about at hacker conferences about how you get in on this.
You can pick up good money by one, being an informant.
Two, is running these test systems, infiltrating systems, sending out false information.
But this is not new.
This has been going on ever since there has been a spy world.
And so I'll just say it's now, the internet is now used for that purpose.
What does it achieve though?
Well, it achieves, one, funding.
If you don't have threats, you don't need the system.
So leaking threats, so then people say, oh no, this is scary, this information that has randomly, surprisingly gotten out, so we need to go support whatever our government is saying it needs in terms of ramping up Homeland Security funding or, you know, breaching civil liberties in the name of protecting against terrorism, that sort of thing?
Is that what you're...
That's correct.
In fact, there's the latest one that perfectly matches WikiLeaks is called Cybersecurity.
We have a brand new Cyber Command that's just been given a huge amount of money.
It's been in the works, though, ever since the internet popped up.
Cyber security.
And so if Weeek Leaks hadn't invented itself, let's assume that it did, it would have been invented.
Because this is a gold mine for people who deal in cyber security.
And don't forget, most of this work is handed out to contractors and universities and research institutions.
And so it's a widely based money flow.
And so without that, we would have no Defense Department.
We'd have no national security apparatus.
We'd have less need for a president or a Congress.
So one of the things that's important to keep in mind here is that this is a deeply entrenched approach.
Now, it turns out I'm not anti-government.
I'm anti-secret government.
But aren't there some things that, you know, for national security reasons, it's better for the public to not know?
No.
You don't think there's any?
No, I'm saying that needs to be more openly discussed.
Right now, it's a knee-jerk reaction.
I see far too many sensible people saying that.
And then we need to talk more about what the Internet threat is and what is cyber threat.
Can you give us an example?
And why are so many leaks coming from inside these security systems rather than outside?
And why is that happening?
Why are your systems so poorly secured that you can't control your own system?
Now, that's out there as documentation.
And one of the ways, though, you cover up your own faults is to raise a new threat and blame other people.
And that's what we see coming with WikiLeaks.
It's going to be blamed for the State Department's own failure to protect its own material.
More importantly, the military is trying to deflect attention for how did Bradley Manning, or whoever it was, did this?
And we don't know for sure if it was Bradley Manning.
How did this happen?
This is supposed to be the most powerful, most adept, well-funded military system in the world.
How did it happen?
Well, first thing, it's a sting operation.
It didn't happen the way it said.
It has all the earmarks of one.
What are those for an average person like myself who wouldn't know?
Well, some low-level employee was able to get access to a classified system, and he just had this bright idea to take it and give it off to someone.
That's almost a joke in the cybersecurity world, because that's exactly what you do to test the system.
But mainly you've got the health and credibility that it's a real thing.
And so it's almost as though it was a plot to do exactly this.
Who benefits in that scenario?
CyberCon does.
They just got a huge funding.
They were having trouble getting it on his feet.
And so now they got a huge fund.
They got a huge contractor handing out.
The conference I mentioned where NSA admitted that it can't secure networks was a business conference to contractors who want contracts to help secure the Internet in response to the WikiLeaks threat and others like it.
Clarify, what is CyberCon?
CyberCon is a PR stunt by the Defense Department.
The NSA is extremely adept.
It's been doing exactly what CyberCon does for many, many years.
But because the Internet is a very popular topic, they have broken out a new thing called CyberCommand, which will deal with cyber threats.
But it's still run by NSA. It's housed at NSA. The head of it is the head of NSA. And so it's just a marketing stunt.
And so I think that cyber threats will probably eventually replace terrorist threats.
You know, there's been this claim that terrorists are using the Internet to plot attacks on us, so it's a kind of wedding of the two.
And so these kind of accusations of these knee-jerk congressional people about WikiLeaks being a terrorist is exactly part of that pattern.
It's a repeat of the Red Menace and all these other kinds of...
Fabricated menaces, and so now they've got a fabulous opportunity to say, well, the enemy is already inside the U.S., and they're on the Internet.
Because we set it up, it's ours, and they've infiltrated us.
What about people that would listen to your take on that and say, that just sounds like a conspiracy theory?
Well, conspiracy theory was invented by the spies.
No one does more conspiracy theory than spies do.
The national security apparatus cooks up conspiracy theories all the time, but they put out the story that it's just conspiracy theory.
As though it's contemptible, but in fact, they're the ones who cook up the threats that are far more complex and bizarre than anything we ordinary people could ever cook up, and they get billions to fight it.
So they're almost diabolically conspiratorially.
So let me call myself a skeptic, and I'm willing to learn.
Welcome criticism.
I don't mind these terms of being a distant conspiracy theorist.
Those are all throwaway terms, as Obama says, off my shoulder.
Don't be fooled by that.
There are much worse terms coming.
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