Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 260.
This is No Agenda.
Avoiding nutmeg and black dog leashes here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
Get my nation west in your people's Republic of Southern California.
Yay, in the morning.
I'm the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where there's no such thing as kettling that's spelled with a K and a T. I'm John C. DeVore.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
But I think you guys do have ketamine.
We do?
Of course you do.
We have Katmandu.
In the morning to you, my friend John.
In the morning to you, Adam, and to all ships at sea.
And to the boots on the ground, and to the wings in the skies.
We've added a wrinkle.
There's nobody listening on the screen.
Yes, there are!
The sky?
Totally.
Hey, look, how many emails did you get this week from ships at sea?
I got like four or five.
I got one.
Okay, well, people don't even know your email.
They always send it to me.
I couldn't find John's email address, which always...
You know, if you just look at the return address to all those emailings that we sent out, it's got it on there.
You can use that.
And of course, I'd like to hand out a big in the morning to all of our human resources who are all charged up and ready to go in the chat room at noagendachat.net.
Charged up at 98%, maybe even niner-niner, because that's the way your government wants you.
Filled with energy that we can sap from you.
Sap away!
There's a lot of energy sapping news this week.
Well, before we start, a part personal note, but it really was triggered by something that happened in the Robert Gibbs show.
We still don't have a jingle for him.
Robert Gibbs, of course, is the spokeshole for the White House.
And he was asked about...
Because, you know, there was this news that came out, John.
I don't know if you saw it or heard it.
It was hard to miss.
I don't know if it was WebMD or Surgeon General.
I don't know if there's a difference.
They came out and they said, you know...
Secondhand smoke is so bad that if you even read the word secondhand smoke on a piece of paper, you will die.
That was essentially how bad secondhand smoke was.
Did you catch this news?
No, I don't know why they're going back to this old bromide.
It was like a new study, and it was about secondhand smoke.
Well, of course, we have to outlaw it completely, because that's just the start, right?
We take away your cigarettes, and we take away your alcohol, and then we take away everything else.
And of course, it was really everywhere.
It was like secondhand smoke.
If you even say secondhand smoke, you are starting to die just from saying it.
And so, of course, at the press conference, someone says, hey, so how's our president doing with that smoking thing?
With smoking, many people say it could be linked to pressure, or it could be something to relax.
Relax the person.
What did you see the president do?
What was the time frame?
How did it happen?
What was he involved in at that time when he was smoking, when you last saw him smoking?
So this is a whole question about the president smoking.
And I just want you to listen to the reasoning why the president actually smokes.
Someone hawking up a lung in the background.
I like the guy coughing in the background.
And that's a smoker's cough, too.
I can't remember the last time...
I mean, I don't remember the individual setting.
I don't know that I would disagree.
I don't know that I would disagree.
I'm not a smoker.
But I think if you asked him, he would likely say that for both...
And again, I hesitate to do this on camera.
I hate to say this on camera, but it's both for...
What?
Say it!
Why does he smoke?
Just in terms of...
For both...
For enjoyment and for some relaxation from the pressure that you mentioned.
Again, I hate to...
Okay.
Enjoyment and some relaxation.
Why doesn't he say he's addicted to it?
A. Or he likes smoking?
B. Or who cares?
Whose business is it of anyone's?
And the fact of the matter is this is going on for so long.
Why doesn't Obama just be honest with the public and come out and smoke one of these babies right in public?
Okay.
So I'm listening to this.
And John, you know I haven't made mention of it.
But this is day seven.
Miss Mickey and I have completed one week of not smoking.
Day 7!
And we gave it up cold turkey.
Now, I have given up marijuana after a 10-year habit of smoking.
From the moment I woke up, Known as the Wake and Bake.
Wake and Bake.
It's true.
It's Wake and Bake.
Everybody, Wake and Bake.
To the moment I went to bed.
And I would smoke.
Literally, I'd take a couple drags and then go to bed.
And can I interrupt you here?
Mm-hmm.
So, and you've brought this up a few times.
Every once in a while, you kind of ask me, have you noticed the difference?
Yeah.
Have you noticed the difference, John?
And I always say the same thing because it's a fact.
No!
I have noticed no difference between the pre-dope-smoking, wake-and-baked Adam Curry and the current Adam Curry.
Right.
It really had very little effect on your personality, as far as I could tell.
You weren't going around like, oh, man.
Whoa!
Whoa, dude.
But anyway...
By the way, let me interrupt again.
I'm not noticing a difference in the seven days, or as I would put it, seven days of your stopping smoking.
You're not irritable.
Well, maybe you are at home, but you're not irritable on the show, and it's not noticeable.
Like you said, you haven't brought it up, and I don't think anyone would have picked up on it.
But go ahead.
Go on with your story.
Well, what I was going to say is that quitting marijuana was easy.
Quitting nicotine is hard.
It is really, really hard.
And if it were not for Mickey and I doing it together, I probably would have buckled.
Because even as recent as yesterday, there are these moments during your quitting process where you go, ah!
I really need a...
And it's like a physical...
I'm like freaking out I want a cigarette.
And imagine, the internet was down for six hours on Thursday night.
I had no porn because, oh, my porn is online.
I didn't know what to do with myself.
And I was like, I was so close to smoking.
Now the thing that is motivating me is that I am stronger than our pussy-ass president of the United States of America.
I challenge Barack Obama to quit smoking for relaxation from the stress of the job.
Bull crap.
Quit that and you're a real man.
A real man, I tell you.
He's so weak, he's so weak, he can't stop smoking.
If you're president...
If you're President of the United States of America, and you've got all this stuff going on around you, and you have to...
I mean, you can do crack for all I care, but the smoking thing, you really...
If you can't get beyond that...
And you can't.
Everyone's laughing about it.
It's now a national joke.
Our president is hooked on cigarettes.
If he can't quit that, then he is too weak to hold the office.
Well, let me go back to my point.
Either...
If he doesn't want, let's say this, he doesn't want to quit.
I mean, maybe he does.
I didn't want to quit either.
Well, that's true.
But let's just go back.
What is the point of being so secretive?
What does he do?
Run off into the back, outside the back of the White House?
I understand that the room next to the Oval Office, known as the Clinton Room, where he used to put cigars and interns, I believe that is now a full-time smoking lounge for the President.
And he slips in there.
That's what I've heard.
Okay, well, that's fine.
But, you know, why does he hide it from the public?
Why doesn't he come out and light up?
I mean, everybody watches Mad Men.
We know how it works.
We know what it looks like.
We know what it looks like.
It's not a...
What is he doing?
What is that weird thing he's sticking in his mouth?
He's lighting it.
Oh, my God.
Where's the Secret Service?
The president is on fire.
He's got a flame in his face.
And which Obama is the smoker, by the way?
Do you think there's one that doesn't smoke and they roll him out?
Yeah, I think Obama number two.
And talking about Obama, does Michelle smoke?
Do we know anything about this possibility?
I don't know, but she's...
Generally couples smoke.
Yeah, the good ones.
The lasting relationships smoke together.
But it's beyond the point, because I'm not going to be one of those ex-smokers who's a total dick about people smoking.
That is the thing I've always hated.
You said like the ex-drinker.
Yeah.
I'm five years sober.
You take somebody out to a bar.
You're out there hanging around.
If they don't want to drink something, fine.
I don't care.
Shut up.
Why don't you just say, no, I'm going to have a Coke or I don't feel like drinking.
Instead of, I'm five years sober.
So what?
You want something to drink?
I don't care if you're five years sober.
You want a Coke?
You want a good glass of soda water with a lime in it?
I don't need the five years sober answer.
I have never coughed as much, by the way.
Your lungs are trying to clear up.
My lungs are trying to escape through my oral cavity.
Trying to run away from me.
It's amazing.
I'm feeling really good though.
I guess the physical addiction is gone by now, right?
No!
How long does it take?
It takes a couple months.
Really?
That long?
And then the problem is the socialization problem.
That's the real gotcha.
It's not really because...
Well, you haven't had the pressure.
No, but I live in Los Angeles, man.
It's like you want to smoke.
It's like you have to go stand in the gutter.
That's where you're allowed to smoke.
In the olden days, you'd go to a party.
Everybody would be smoking up a storm and offering cigarettes to everybody.
Next thing you know, you're smoking again.
Exactly.
No, no, no.
No, no.
But it's because we're doing...
Go stand in the gutter.
Go stand in the cesspool.
Literally.
Go to the outhouse and crap while you're smoking.
It's literally true.
But because we're doing it together, and here was my mistake, because Mickey's like, I really, because she really wanted to stop.
I'm like, hey, baby, I'm the stupid dick I am.
Hey, baby, whenever you're ready, I'm there with you.
I'll stop with you.
Oh, you made the mistake of agreeing.
Yeah, and then she's like, oh, I think I have to do, like, I'll need hypnotization.
I'm like, that's bull crap.
Just stop.
And then she stopped.
I'm like, oh, crap.
Oh, no!
And I had to have that one last one, because I'm like, well, you stopped before I was ready.
That's a bad thing.
I had the one last one.
But anyway, I challenged the president, and I think everyone else would challenge the president, because if you can't quit that, which is hard, it's hard.
I think it's like heroin hard.
I don't know if I want a president strung out trying to quit tobacco in office.
Oh man, this is like bad.
Let me push this red button.
Oh please.
That's what I mean.
I mean, if he can't even handle that pressure, how about some real pressure?
Anyway.
So the president is now motivated.
So you're now holier than thou and you're calling out the president.
No, I'm calling out the president because he's weak.
Not because he smokes.
I don't care what he does, but he's weak.
I'm just the opposite of this.
I think he should be smoking in public.
Anyway, just to prove that he's weak, completely weak, here's what blew me away, ladies and gentlemen, as we are watching the White House press room.
It was a slow news day, so I brought the other guy in.
You know, he's starting to sound more and more like Elvis in Las Vegas.
It's actually a combination of Elvis and George Bush.
He sounds like Bush.
Folks, I brought the other guy in.
Slow news day.
And he pushes...
Just listen to this.
Obviously, there's a big debate going on about taxes and about the need to grow the economy and to create jobs.
And just about every day this week, I've been making an argument as to why the agreement that we've struck...
I've got to go have a smoke break right now, so I'm going to let Billy Boy take over.
I've got to go smoke!
I've got to go smoke!
Did you see this?
Did you see this thing?
Oh, it's terrible.
Clinton is an insufferable bore at this point.
And by the way, did you see him getting out of his limo to come to that meeting?
No, no, I didn't see that.
The guy looks like he's a walking dead man.
He does, doesn't he?
If he lives another five years, it's going to be a miracle.
He's gone on a vegan diet.
Which makes him look really gray and ashen.
He's totally gray and ashen and he's skinny.
And he can barely walk.
He looks like he's barely able to, you know, just staggering.
He's not getting enough protein.
His system's not used to this sort of thing.
And he's looking like Steve Jobs.
I mean, it's just not a healthy look.
I agree.
He doesn't look good.
So here's the funny thing.
He wraps up.
He's only supposed to do some little ditty.
And then Obama's trying to interrupt him.
Because he wants to leave.
It was just incredibly funny to me seeing this slapstick unfold before my eyes.
To follow up, you mentioned the Republican Congress taking office in January.
What was your advice to President Obama today about how to deal with the Congress from the opposition party?
I have a general rule, which is that if whatever he asks me about my advice...
Obama's standing next to him, by the way, and this is now going on for 10, 12 minutes.
Whatever I say should become public only if he decides to make it public.
He can say whatever he wants.
Here's what I'll say is I've been keeping the first lady waiting for about half an hour, so I'm going to take off.
I don't want to make her mad.
Please go.
You're in good hands.
And Gibbs will call last question.
Thank you.
Amazing!
Amazing!
Gibbs will call last question.
You know what?
I've had this done to me by CEOs of companies.
Fuck it, I'll say it.
Ron Bloom would do this from time to time.
It'd be like a big meeting and he just wouldn't find it important enough.
And then like, alright, Adam's going to answer these questions and I'll be back.
And he'd just walk away.
It's like the worst thing you can do to anybody.
And then because he has to go to a Christmas party?
It's really weird.
Very, very weird.
Well, the whole thing was, first of all, Clinton is so out of it and he's so dingy that he, you know, in a daze, he's like in a drug stupor.
He doesn't even know he's up there, it seems to me, and he's up yakking away forever.
He must be a horrible, boring guy now at a dinner party.
I paid $100,000 for that douchebag to bore me to tears at my party?
Well, I mean, he was just in San Francisco giving a speech, like, Thursday.
Yeah.
And it was a, you know, I've got reports.
I actually could have gone to the thing and decided, you know, that I've got better things to do with my time, because you can always get the things on tape.
And by the way, I think that's true with most trade shows nowadays.
You can usually get the tape, or you can get a nice video version of it.
You're not going to go up and get any better than the video.
No, you don't have to actually go anymore.
You don't really have to go to anything anymore.
Let me just finish this up.
Just one thing the guy said that was kind of funny, which was completely inappropriate about Clinton.
Just to get past it, then we should do our executive producers.
It was bothering me so much that Obama had to go smoke with his wife.
Got to go smoke at the Christmas party so, Billy Boy, you can finish it up here because no one believes me.
No one believes me.
No one believes me when I say it's a good deal.
He's totally irked about the whole thing.
The Democrats actually got...
Here's the opportunity for the...
They always say, oh, the Republicans are the party of no, no, no.
And the Republicans gave in on this.
Actually, most observers think they gave in more than the Democrats did.
And then these liberal...
The most liberal of the Democrats are all bitching and moaning.
But of course, you know, Hillary's been under such fire from WikiLeaks.
We needed diversion, so Bill had to go in there.
But listen to the metaphor he uses for now being in the spotlight at the White House.
Mr.
President, I get the feeling that you're happier to be here commenting and giving advice than governing.
Oh, I had quite a good time governing.
I am happy to be here, I suppose, when the bullets that are fired are unlikely to hit me, unless they're just ricocheting.
What kind of message is that?
What the hell was that?
I didn't remember that one.
Wow.
Yeah, I'm happy to be here when the bullets aren't being fired at me.
I might just get hit by a ricochet.
How inappropriate is that?
I'd say the Secret Service should investigate that guy.
Yeah.
All right.
I noticed that PayPal was a little bit better than last week, but not much.
No, but it was noticeably.
We're back up to par, you think?
No, no, we're not up to par.
We're about two-thirds to three-quarters of the way.
This is the thing, is that this attack on PayPal really does make a difference.
It really does slow things down.
I mean, so, you know, people will say, I think I'm going to donate.
They hit the button, nothing happens, and then they say, I'll do it next.
I'll do it in an hour.
They never do it.
Yeah.
And it really does hurt business.
So, yeah, if the idea was to hurt PayPal, great, it worked.
I'm sure they're losing millions.
Yeah.
I'm sure they're losing.
Can't imagine.
Yeah, I'm sure it really hurt them, but it's hurting other people, too.
Yeah, well, that's the way it is.
All right, Steven Pelsmacher.
We have three executive producers.
Oh, three?
Wow.
Three.
We're going to, well, I mean, technically we could just give it to Pelsmacher because he's ahead of the other two guys, but we actually have three people that donated the 260 to become members of the exclusive 260, which will never be, you can't join it after this.
That's it.
Three guys.
That's right.
And Pelsmacher's at $2.60.33 added $0.33 for good karma.
And he got it.
He got it.
Now, he's not officially a member of the $2.60 club if he doesn't do the exact amount, but we're going to let him slide, I guess.
Yeah, I think you're going to have to hit the number.
Do the $0.33 as a separate donation.
Sean Connolly, or actually Sir Sean Connolly, so we have two of our knights stepping up from Napperville.
Of course.
It's always the same people.
It's rarely anyone new.
Well, no, that's not true this week.
Aaron Ramroth from Amsterdam, the third executive producer at 260, came in, and he's new.
So we have Steve Pelsmacher, Steven Pels, Sir Steven, Sir Sean, and Aaron Ramroth from Amsterdam.
What does he have in his notes?
What does he want?
He says, Good day, John and Adam.
I'm a longtime total douchebag listener since the start.
I only decided to give after not being able to cope with the fact that I've been mooching for so long.
You guys keep me informed and entertained on my daily commute from Amsterdam to Den Haag.
Den Haag.
An American expat living here for 12 years, hence Dvorak can pronounce my name.
Now that I'm donating, I'd love to hear any of my friends around the world who are also listening and will admit it.
Here's 260 for show 260 more coming if you play the MILF jingle more.
MILF?
That's one mother I'd like to.
Cracks him up, he says.
Right on.
Well, thank you very much.
That's outstanding, Aaron, from Amsterdam.
Right, and Sir Sean mentions that he's working on a damehood for his daughter, number one, and also he also has a second daughter.
So it's good news for us, he says.
And Pelsmarker's got a few extra things coming up later in the show.
Yeah, Baron Von Pelsmarkers.
Baron Von Pelsmarkers.
Baron Von Pelsmarkers.
Okay, so no associate execs?
No, just those three guys.
So we're still hurting a bit.
In the morning, Adam and John, could you please mention the PR section that owing to a no-agenda Christmas miracle...
It's a Christmas miracle, John.
The red no agenda dice arrived from the manufacturer three weeks ahead of schedule.
All orders have been shipped, including several pairs for yourselves, the no agenda patriarchs.
Be sure to substitute them in any and all holiday board game playing.
That's a good point.
That's a great line.
It's true.
I never thought about it.
But yeah, people, they all have these board games that sound like hotcakes.
Exactly.
It's beautiful.
I've got one, actually.
I've got a clip for one of them for everyone out there who's looking for a really interesting board game.
There's the advertisement clip in there.
You can find it.
You want me to do that now?
It's the honeybees or the ladybug.
Yeah, play it.
Ladybug game?
Okay, let's...
All right, here we go.
A little ladybug game for you, everybody.
Why is it taking so long to open?
What's going on?
Well, so much for our timing.
Let me try it one more time.
Timing is everything.
The Ladybug game.
Available at Target and Barnes and Noble.
We're...
So I've been, so apparently, if you haven't noticed, I've been looking for clips on children's programming.
Oh, well let me give you one on children's programming then.
This is in Gitmo Nation East.
Brand new show coming to televisions everywhere just in time for Christmas, ladies and gentlemen.
We interrupt this transmission for a newsflash.
My name is Dr.
Morris Burgs, and I'm on my way to Lapland to discover why Christmas 2010 is in crisis.
Follow my journey at green-santa.com.
Now, what do you think that could be about, huh?
The Green Santa Show.
Didn't we go over this last year when they had all these Santa Claus shows, Santa Claus is dead, Santa Claus...
There's no snow in the North Pole, and what are we going to do?
They do it every single year.
This is a new show.
It's like a new tradition.
It's terrible.
It's the Green Santa.
And Christmas is in peril because your parents are destroying the world.
You must police your parents, you little slaves.
There will be no Christmas for you.
And the helper elf is sitting on the shelf looking at you, making sure you're telling your parents what to do.
And then turn your parents in if they don't do it.
Absolutely.
They're a little bit further there in Gitmo Nation East.
Now, before we get to...
Because I got some news on the Cancun Hagen.
By the way, I just want to remind everybody to go to Dvorak.org slash NA if they want to get in on the action.
And these executive producer titles, by the way, are legit.
Yeah, they are legitimate, absolutely.
And you can get an exclusive one by joining the club by donating the amount of the episode.
And actually, I saw Sir Larry, Sir Larry Lee, who is the only member of the 259er Club.
He's got it right there on his email signature.
Good.
And it looks good, too.
It looks smart.
So, yes, these are official credits.
If you're on IMDb, you can put them there.
You can put them anywhere on a resume.
The big difference is, unlike Hollywood, we'll actually vouch for you.
If you want someone to get a phone call and say, yeah, this guy's really an executive producer, okay, of a real show.
So thanks to Sir Stephen Pelsmackers, Sir Sean Connolly, and Aaron Remroth, I'm pronouncing it correctly, I hope, our executive producers, and three members, the only members, it never comes back, of the very exclusive 260 Club.
Everybody else out there, go out and propagate this formula loud and proud.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New World Order.
All right, say it with me now.
Shut up, Lee.
So speaking of things being the season, John, this report reached me, which I did not know.
And I was actually tempted to do me a little bit, you know, with my non-smoking and everything.
This is from Fox News, particularly around this time of year with the eggnog and everything.
There's a danger lurking in your kitchen, my friend.
It's very, very dangerous.
Well, believe it or not, it is easy access.
Who doesn't have nutmeg in their home?
But know that easy access is tempting teenagers.
Woo!
She said, you know you can get high off of nutmeg.
This 15-year-old Palmdale teen didn't want to share her identity, but she revealed to KTLA how teenagers are now turning to nutmeg to get high.
How does she take it?
She just went, then she's like, cut.
Yes, the popular kitchen spice, if taken in high doses, can actually give your child a marijuana-like buzz.
And in some cases, act like a hallucinogenic.
I'm thinking this is good.
And the worst breath ever.
The first thing I heard was, I don't want to overdose.
And alarms went off in my head.
Just this week, teen's mom says she busted her daughter after her phone was accidentally dialed.
Listening in on the conversation, she heard the two teens discussing a substance and how much to take to catch the buzz.
Oh no.
Oh my.
No, this is not good.
It's a little known spice fact, but after some research, we found teens on YouTube experimenting, even discussing the buzz.
This teen downing the entire bottle.
Many saying the effects take hours to peak.
Nutmeg contains a compound which belongs to the deliriant drug family, hence the high.
The user often taking three to four tablespoons.
I think I should.
Alright.
Hold on a second.
Let's back up.
First of all, this...
It's the evil nut, I tell you.
This thing, this exact same fractal came out in the late 60s.
I was going to say, it must be the 60s.
Late 60s, mid to late 60s.
And it was always called the prisoner's hide back in the day.
Well, Wikipedia actually talks about it being a thing for a prisoner.
Yeah, it was used in prison.
And if the fractal holds true, the next thing that will come along will be a banana peel.
Oh, really?
I can't wait.
That was, in fact, the Donovan song, they call it Mellow Yellow, was a reference to this particular oddball high.
Wait a minute.
Don't you have to, like, burn the banana peel?
Well, you know, I never knew how it was actually...
I always thought it was just a hoax, and I still believe it might be.
But apparently, if I recall, you scrape the inside of the banana peel.
It's not the banana peel.
It's the goop that's between the banana and the banana peel.
Right.
And so you scrape all that crap off, and then I think you cook it down and smoke it, or you eat it.
I don't know what you do with it.
Well, this is very important, John.
I need to experiment.
Well, you can, yeah, I know you do, since you're not smoking now.
But I'm sure YouTube has a video about it, so you can just go look it up.
Honey, buy more bananas.
How about this?
Banana with nutmeg.
Now you're talking.
Now it's a combo.
So if the fractal holds true, then banana peels will be next.
And there's all kinds of other...
I mean, there's a lot of stuff out there.
It was just funny to me that it came out at the same time.
Like, really?
But it is true that the nutmeg, if you eat enough of it...
By the way, you'll probably puke.
But, uh, I guess you can get pretty high from it.
I'm sure you could, but I mean, there's a lot of spices that you can get high from.
I mean, spices, uh...
Oh?
Do tell?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, offhand, but it doesn't take...
You can look it up.
Kid, alright, kid, come out.
Put down the banana.
Put down the banana and the nutmeg, kid.
You're under arrest.
We have the place around it.
You can look it up.
Nowadays, all the information is available if you know how to do a simple Google search.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Hey, Billy Boy did have a little bit to say about Haiti.
Oh, he did?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't even want to play it.
It was so much bull crap.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's like $80 trillion billion.
We've got the...
Actually, I should play that, because I do have some...
I really need to say some things about Haiti, because it's just really nuts over there.
Let's listen to what he says.
And I want us to row.
He gives us a Haiti update.
What?
He gives us a Haiti update.
Haiti update?
Yeah, yeah.
I had a long talk with the Prime Minister today.
The Prime Minister being the Preval.
The douchebag.
The, uh...
Yeah, Preval.
And, um...
Was the Prime Minister of Haiti in Washington?
Is that where he was?
That he had a long talk with him?
Or, you know, how does that work?
He, first of all, has done, I think, a remarkable job of being a loyal Prime Minister but not being involved in the political imbroglio that's going on, except to try to keep calm.
The political imbroglio, is that what he said?
Wow.
That's a $4 word right there.
Imbroglio.
I've never used that word.
I've seen it.
I've seen it too, but I've never.
And I've never used it.
I've never written using it.
I've never said it until just now.
Imbroglio.
But I think, well, words matter.
So, what is the definition of imbroglio?
Are you sure that was he saying imbroglio or was he belching?
He actually does belch during this.
It's really funny.
Excuse me.
Yeah, listen.
Yeah, he says imbroglio.
Imbroglio.
Well, hold on.
Let's look this word up.
What does imbroglio mean?
It means a morass.
Well, no, that can't be the direct definition.
No, I mean, it's just like a morass.
It's a quagmire.
It's a combination of morass, quagmire, and fiasco.
Well, no, I understand, but I want to have the exact...
With violent undertones.
Yeah.
Hold on a second.
I'm telling you, it's like describing wine.
Imbroglio.
Okay.
That's with an I. It's not an imbroglio.
Oh yeah, it's an imbroglio with an I. Imbroglio.
An intricate and confusing interpersonal or political situation.
It's a very proper use of the term.
Yeah, quagmire.
Well, no, but it specifically has to do with a political situation, which I find interesting.
Okay, well, it's fine.
Somebody probably gave him the word.
Hey Clint, you're going to make hay with this one.
You'll get mentioned on some radio show.
Guys will go nuts for this word.
It's a big four dollar word.
A confusion, a heap, a tangle.
Okay.
An entanglement.
Okay.
Except to try to keep calm.
There was a decision made by the Electoral Council to review the vote.
In other words, it turns out that sweet Mickey Martelli...
Is number three on the list.
He's getting blamed for all the violence, by the way.
It's his supporters who are wrecking everything.
You mean the guy who probably won?
No, no, no.
Because actually it's the 70-year-old woman who appears to be winning, but she's not the protege of Preval.
Prime Minister Preval's protege.
So that's why they're doing a recount.
It's because, well, she can't win.
That's not right.
I think she's actually probably on the right track and the people of Haiti actually want her.
Well, listen.
They could be blaming the...
Okay.
I mean, riots could be a combination of ingredients.
No, but they're blaming it on the Martelli crowd.
Right.
They're blaming it on him.
And ask some outside observers to come in.
Outside observers.
Who could those be, John?
Who do you think?
The Clintons?
Well, it's the United Nations, of which...
Well, it's the Clintons, same thing.
Billy Boy is the special envoy.
So it's the outsiders.
Who are not only credible, but knowledgeable.
Knowledgeable, but they probably did that...
That Bush-Gore thing.
They know how to do it.
They will announce exactly how they proposed to do that.
Today was a pretty calm day.
And they expect the weekend to be pretty calm.
We are going to have our commission meeting next week.
Hey, hold on a second.
We may move.
Is this still at that same press conference?
Yes!
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Yes!
I didn't watch the whole thing.
I didn't realize that Clinton actually took over the press conference and started doing Clinton stuff.
Dude, I'm telling you, Barack left to go have a smoke after 15 minutes, and then Clinton went into like 20 minutes of questions.
About everything?
Like, how you doing?
How's your new book?
No, but the START treaty, all kinds of stuff.
Oh, yeah.
He just kept on.
He took over the place.
Totally.
And the crazy thing was, at the end of it, the press was just like, oh, okay.
Because they have like a piece on C-SPAN where they keep rolling the camera.
The press was like, oh, well, that's typical.
You know, whatever.
That's Billy Boyd.
Nothing.
No one's like, what?
What just happened here?
What the hell is this guy doing here?
Listen to a little bit more of this, because it's nuts.
To the Dominican Republic?
We're moving everything to the Dominican Republic.
Because we're afraid of people killing us in Haiti.
But I think one of the best things that we can do for the people of Haiti is to prove that the Haitians on the commission and the donors are still committed to the long-term reconstruction process.
Whoever gets elected president.
Okay, so this is where the big lie comes and he starts touching his nose and stuff.
Now, the dollar amounts confused me for a moment when he talked about these.
Listen to this.
The best thing they can do is everyone understands they had to carry out this election under enormously difficult circumstances.
They had to carry out the election.
I mean, it's like it's the biggest crisis in the country in 90 years.
And no matter what happens, people stay in your tents.
We have to have an election first before anything else.
Just poop in your tent with your cholera.
We have to have the election.
Nothing else goes above the election.
People understand, right, John?
People understand that, right?
Wow.
Even getting the ID cards to everybody is...
Oh, wait!
Stay in your tent!
We have to get you your ID card.
Please, your bracelet will be assembled this evening.
If you're pooping in your tent, it's okay.
It's very important we get your ID bracelets so you can...
We have to vote, no matter what else.
Do you know proved difficult because they were in those tented areas?
Tented areas?
I mean, stay in your tented areas!
Ha ha ha!
I'm so happy I can laugh about it, but it's disgusting.
You know those, what do you call them, John?
Tented areas?
Tented areas.
It's called a camping ground, Mr.
President.
It's a tented area.
But what I can say is it was calmer today.
It appears they are going to try to have a recount procedure, which they hope will acquire more support from across the political spectrum.
Wait a minute.
We're going to have a recount procedure which we hope will have more support from across the political spectrum.
In other words, our guy should win.
That's what that means.
And meanwhile, we want the commission to keep working.
The World Bank just released about $70 billion of the $90 billion in projects we approved four months ago.
Now, have you ever heard this number?
No.
The World Bank just released $70 billion?
He says 70 of the $90 billion.
That can't all be for Haiti.
70 billion?
I'm not understanding where he pulled that one.
Well, let's just listen to it again.
It really confused me.
The World Bank, right, just approved 70 of the 90 billion.
For what?
Approving, but what's the approving?
Yeah, but it's approved.
It doesn't mean anything.
The World Bank just released it back.
No, no, they released.
They released.
Released to who?
Released the funds to the tented area.
Commission to keep working.
The World Bank just released about $70 billion of the $90 billion in projects we approved four months ago.
So that'll go in.
We'll be hiring more people immediately in those projects.
And we're going to approve a lot more projects on the 14th.
And that's my focus now.
I don't know what he's saying, but it sounds like a bunch of bull crap to me.
On the 14th, we got a lot of projects.
70 billion?
You could buy a house for every single one of the people in the tented areas.
Yeah.
70 billion!
That can't be all for Haiti.
It can't be.
No, it's just throwing numbers out.
Anyway, there's good news, John, because the World Health Organization, which is also part of the United Nations, who, as we know, is now confirmed, actually brought cholera into Haiti.
Are now saying, you know what?
It looks like it's the perfect time to start vaccinating everyone against cholera.
Because we've got the vaccine.
Did you know there was a vaccine against COVID? Oh yeah.
If you do a lot of world traveling, especially some areas that are sketchy, you have to get a lot of these shots to even enter the country.
You need papers.
The cholera shot amongst travelers is considered the worst shot you can get.
I've never had one.
It's been around for a long time.
It's apparently an excruciating experience.
Really?
Yeah.
Apparently two brands of cholera vaccine exist today.
Dukoral, made in Sweden, which is WHO approved.
Costs $40 per dose.
Yeah, it's expensive.
Someone's going to make a bundle on that.
Oh, yeah.
And Sanchal introduced last year...
By the way, what were we thinking?
We knew they were going to introduce caller, right?
Of course!
Because caller always shows up in these things.
And you knew somebody's going to have to get...
I didn't think about the vaccination angle.
Anyone who even visits Haiti now is going to have to get one of these very expensive and painful shots.
Well, there is a new shot...
Hey, wait a minute.
Hold on.
And by the way, how come the UN workers don't routinely have this shot?
So how could they bring it in?
Because it sucks!
Because the shot sucks!
You just told us so.
Just saying.
You'd think that if there were UN workers and they had to go to these countries that they would be immunized.
Go ahead.
Well, so it's even more interesting that India's Shantha Biotechnics has a vaccine which is not WHO approved but only costs $6 a dose.
Creating a global stockpile...
Made from curry.
No, but wait, but wait, but wait.
Here it comes.
Made from curry.
With nutmeg.
Creating a global stockpile against future outbreaks...
Oh.
Oh.
Here we go.
Oh, yeah.
Building a global stockpile would be very expensive...
But donor nations like the United States and Canada, foundations and philanthropic groups have raised billions of dollars for vaccines and polio, like polio and other diseases.
We think it's time we build a cholera stockpile.
So there you go.
It's a new way to make some money.
These guys never give up.
They don't.
They just don't.
And then what the hell is Sarah Palin doing in Haiti?
That, like, tripped me out.
Yeah, maybe...
I figured she was tracking a caribou and somehow it took a trip to Haiti.
She had to follow it.
I mean, what is that about?
I mean, she can't be sincere.
She just can't be.
No, I don't know why.
I mean, she's sticking to her...
It's horrible.
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
It's like the new celebrity stop-off.
It's like, you know, if you haven't been to Haiti, then you're not a true celebrity.
I wonder if she got the collar a shot.
So here is something very...
And this will be my last thing on Haiti.
There's a French satellite called the...
Well, it's from the French Space Agency, which is the CNES. The satellite DEMETER, which I think is Demeter...
Which is in orbit 700 kilometers above the Earth's surface.
Check this out.
So someone went looking and it monitors all kinds of different things on Earth.
Demeter spotted a 360% increase in ultra-low frequency radio waves in the ionosphere above Haiti in the month running up to the earthquake.
Hello?
Did I lose you?
Yeah.
No.
Well, you did for a second, but I'm following it.
Okay.
So, again, this satellite measured a 360% increase in ultra-low frequency radio waves in the ionosphere above Haiti in the run-up to the earthquake.
And, of course, the scientists are saying, well, this is very interesting.
You know, so does the Earth, like, start to build up these frequencies?
Aren't we supposed to do this in the second half of the show?
No.
No, I'm on Haiti right now.
This literally happened in Haiti.
You and your agenda to sneak in second half show material into the front of the show is getting transparent.
I'm telling you, there's earthquake machines and they're using them.
And I'm done on the topic.
No need to go into it any further.
Look at the research for yourself.
It's in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
Alright.
So far I'm doing good.
I've got earthquake machines.
You're doing well.
No, I'm doing good.
You're doing well.
I'm just doing good.
You're doing well.
Alright kid, I'm doing well.
Yeah.
My goodness.
So I got a piece of news that just kind of got...
This is just a standalone piece.
Ready?
Yeah.
I got a lot of stuff from the BBC. I actually got two pieces on the BBC. They're standalone.
There's no real story other than what?
The first one is...
Well, let's start with this one.
So, you know, they gave the peace prize, the Nobel Peace Prize, went to the guy that's locked up in China.
And so it's caused a big stink with China.
This was the same peace prize that our peace president Obama received last year.
Yes, and that's why the BBC's chiding Obama.
Listen to this clip.
This is just the beginning of their discussion on the BBC, and this is, I think, BBC World.
Mm-hmm.
Not BBC America, I'm not sure.
It's beside the point, it's the same clip they used on both shows.
But just listen to the little jab they throw in as they begin the package.
So, is Liu a global hero or a common criminal?
The answer, of course, depends on who you ask.
Our coverage begins with the BBC's John Simpson in Norway.
The Nobel Peace Prize has often been a majestic celebration of human rights.
Sometimes, like last year's award to Barack Obama, it's been an embarrassment.
Well, it's got nothing to do with the story.
They just threw it in.
Well, that's part of the agenda.
It's an embarrassment.
It's an embarrassment.
It was Barack Obama.
It's not Barack, by the way.
It's Barack.
It's Barack Obama was an embarrassment.
Embarrassment to Barack.
An embarrassing moment.
Wow.
Why did the Brits continue to say Barack Obama?
Because they're idiots.
Whoa.
Let me just make sure.
Who donated from Gitmo Nation?
No one.
No one?
You sure?
Not a single person?
We get very few contributions to the Noah Jonda show, whatever they call it.
Noah Jonda.
They're the Jonda show from the States.
Hey, but the slaves were uprising in Gitmo Nation.
Yes, we're going to talk about that shortly.
Well, you don't want to do that now?
No, I want to get this last standalone out of the way because it's so stupid.
This is one, and I'm only going to run this because I think it's something that we have to start thinking about what's going on.
It's crazy.
Play the German soldiers in France clip.
The French government has welcomed the first German soldiers to be stationed in the country in peacetime.
The battalion was officially installed on Friday just outside Strasbourg.
France has kept soldiers on German territory since the Second World War, but only now is this reciprocal as Paris and Berlin increase their military operation.
What?
And the way they make it sound as though, well, the French have had the soldiers in Germany.
Yeah, because they lost the war.
There's no reason in the world that there should be any German soldiers.
What are they doing there?
What is the point?
What is the point of German soldiers in France?
Can somebody in France explain this to me?
By the way, the First World War, the Germans flattened the north of France.
It was like a pancake.
They flattened it.
Yeah, no, they did.
And Strasbourg is one of the areas in what used to be part of Germany or the Austria.
Disputed area.
It's a disputed area, which is now French.
And by the way, in the Alsace area, if anybody wants to take some wine touring around the world, Alsace is gorgeous.
But anyway, let's get back.
So why do they have these German soldiers in what was once a German part of the world in France?
They are for your protection.
What's the deal?
They are for your freedom.
We are here for your freedom.
What did the French put up with this?
What do they want German soldiers on their soil for?
What are they going to do there?
Police?
Are they going to pick up litter?
I mean, what are they doing there?
Picking up litter.
That's correct.
Okay, you could pick this litter up.
I don't know, man.
I don't know what they're doing.
It's funny.
Anyway, so I'm keeping an eye on it.
Yeah, I think rightly you should.
It's just a throwaway, too.
It's like, oh, you know, we got some German soldiers here, huh?
That must freak some people out.
Do they still have the same helmets?
With a big point on the top, that one?
No, not with a big point.
No, not the Wilhelm helmets.
Like the SS helmets.
Oh, the ones that got all the big skirt on it?
Yeah, the kind that guys on Harley still wear from time to time.
Yeah, right.
The Nazi helmets.
Yeah, do they still have those helmets or have they upgraded?
No, I don't think so.
I think they still use those.
Wow.
That must be weird for some people to go like, oh shit, I got a flashback.
What the hell are these guys doing here?
They're doing it.
Hey, Pierre!
Pierre!
What is this?
Wow.
They're probably not wearing the helmets.
I'm sure they're wearing berets like everybody else does.
Alright, let's talk about these kids.
These kids in Gitmo Nation.
So, if I understand correctly...
What happened is...
They're rioting.
For people, the Americans don't even know.
Do we get, like, short sheets?
No one knows this.
And I was like, wow, this is amazing.
These are huge riots.
This is a big-ass deal.
This is big.
And it's young slaves, too.
It's 13 and 15, you know, 14, 15-year-olds who basically, you know, of course, what's happening everywhere is now happening in Gitmo Nation East, is the government is saying, well...
You know, everyone got rich on this banking scheme, and we need to take some more, so hey, hey, hey, you slaves, you're going to pay for it.
What?
Play the Riots in London part one so we can get a little BBC feeling for what's going on, because it's not being covered here.
It is completely not being covered.
...traversial plan to triple university tuition fees.
Now, triple...
From like 3,000 pounds to 9,000 pounds.
So unless you want to be working in a coal mine, which, by the way, I think they're opening those up again.
And by the way, the thing is that what's happened over the last 20 or 30 years is that they have privatized student loan systems.
Same as here.
And they put the screws to you.
You have to start paying interest immediately.
Not when I was a kid.
I could get a student loan and I'd just pay it back.
Or you could just get out of it.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can get out of it.
Now, even if you go bankrupt, which you probably will do, you can't get out of these loans because they're exempt from the bankruptcy laws thanks to corrupt government officials that are working in Congress and the bankers.
The bankers have everything to do with this, so they just see how far they can go with it.
Because the idiots in England apparently won't get out of their own way or complain, they figured they could just put the screws to them, but whoa!
Yeah, so, you know, and this has been brewing.
I lived there for five years.
There's so much dissatisfaction and unhappiness that I think what happened is finally everyone looked up from their beer and went, what?
Oh, no, you didn't.
...traversial plan to triple university tuition fees.
Police with riot shields and batons held back demonstrators outside Parliament, where the coalition government faced the biggest crisis of its seven-month history.
At one point, demonstrators attacked the car carrying Prince Charles and his wife Camilla.
A window was broken, but they were unharmed.
Our political editor, Nick Robinson, reports.
Democracy is not meant to work like this.
Tonight, protesters broke into the Treasury Building on Whitehall.
Wait, this is exactly the way democracy is supposed to work.
When you're screwing the people, they rise up.
This is exactly what it's supposed to do.
I know, I cut that meme too.
I thought it was depressing.
It's like, wow, unbelievable.
It's not supposed to work like that.
You're supposed to do as you're told.
You should not have an agenda.
Protesters broke into the Treasury Building on Whitehall.
Freedom!
They chanted, we want our money back.
They smashed windows, they injured police.
They were there in their hundreds to protect the Commons, as MPs voted on tuition fees, just yards down the road.
The eyes to the right, 323.
The nose to the left, 302.
Three quarters of the government's majority have been wiped out.
Shame, Labour MPs cried.
But it was too late.
That vote scraps the current cap on tuition fees of just over £3,000 and from 2012 fees will rocket to at least £6,000 and perhaps as high as £9,000 a year.
That decision, today's vote, was accompanied once again by the invasion of Westminster, by thousands laying siege to Parliament.
Many peaceful, many not.
All this ostensibly provoked by plans to raise the price of a university education.
Secretary Vince Cable.
Inside a packed commons, Vince Cable insisted he'd not cut student numbers or grants or the overall budget for universities.
You know why I think this is happening, John?
It just kind of hit me.
Yeah.
They need the human resources.
They need the human resources to be doing something.
And of course, it's so hard to get a gig in the United Kingdom that most people stay in school as long as they can.
Right.
Well, I don't think your theory is correct because to want riots, especially in a place where it's pent up...
I don't think they expected the riots.
I think they're like, oh shoot, wait a minute, what's up with this?
The kids are like completely doped up and drunk and whacked out on Green Santa...
I don't think they were expecting it.
I think this was really unexpected.
No, I'm absolutely convinced they're not expecting it.
And by the way, I want to, just to push away a few letters, I don't want to start getting mail from some of our listeners with the following meme.
Oh, you know, why should the government be paying for an education for the kids?
They should pay for their own way.
And what, you know, this kind of thing, which is bogus if there ever was, because the fact of the matter is that society relies on an educated population, even though we don't even got one anymore.
Yeah.
So I just don't want to hear that.
You're going to have to play the rest of that clip because it's too long.
But the second one, which is the BBC report, Riots in London BBC report, actually goes into an analysis with one of the guys who was witnessing the whole thing.
And it's actually a little more interesting because he brings up the Kettling thing, which is what...
This is what they started with the G20 riots, this kettling where you basically surround people and force them into one area from both ends.
Right, you surround them, it's like a military operation.
You surround them with police, and so they're going in one direction, and then the police are there, so they start their head in another direction, but they can't because the cops are there too.
And so they decided to retreat and go around, but they can't because the cops are behind them.
And then they just hold them in that area throughout the event, and then they let them go later.
And that's why it's interesting to listen to the 15-year-old who came on because he talked about the kettling thing.
And then it's interesting to listen to this report because apparently the kettling's been bypassed.
And that's the reason that Prince Charles was attacked because all these people were roaming around aimlessly.
And then they saw him and went after him.
He wasn't anywhere near the place.
And apparently they were freaked by this.
And I'm sure they should be.
I have a different opinion on the Charles or Camilla thing.
Now, will this explain how these riots really started?
I mean, who was the instigator?
Do they have any analysis in this BBC report on that?
No, they're just...
I don't know.
It's hard to...
No, they don't get to that.
I mean, they can't say there's a person.
Could have been that 15-year-old kid you have the clip of.
But just play this to get a little bit of...
I just want to give people a feeling for what's going on.
...of extra-parliamentary violence, destruction, and anger.
Incredible.
And just after he filed that report, I spoke to Nick from Westminster.
Nick, seeing from the other side of the Atlantic, those scenes in London today are really just unbelievable, quite extraordinary.
Are they reflective of a general disquiet in Britain, or is it specific to this one issue of the votes for student fees?
So far, it's specific to that.
Oh my God!
What a lie!
That's unbelievable!
Well, he gets out of it.
Oh, okay.
...to many, many people in the United Kingdom, and yet this is now the third time that the streets of London have lit up to demonstrations.
Demonstrations that are still relatively small, but it seems that the police are quite incapable of controlling, no matter how many people they have.
As I left here at the heart of the British Parliament and went onto the streets, there were dozens of police vans, hundreds of police in riot gear, but they couldn't stop those protesters.
Attacking and breaking into the Treasury Building a few hundred yards away, up Whitehall, the key street in Westminster.
And, of course, they couldn't stop that attack on the car of the heir to the throne, Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla.
That car travelling right into the middle of the rioters.
I mean, I have to ask, what were the security forces thinking letting the heir to the throne get so close to that kind of violence?
Well, the truth is he wasn't that close to here in Westminster.
He was elsewhere in London's West End.
But everyone was aware that he was going there.
He was going to a Royal Variety performance in London's West End.
And what happened is those protests, those riots spread across London.
In the previous confrontations we've had between police and protesters, the police have adopted the tactic of so-called kettling.
In other words, literally corralling protesters in, locking them in for many hours between lines of policemen.
This time, knowing that was the case, they spread out attacking shops in Oxford Street, the main high street in London, and also, as we discovered, reaching the place where the heir to the throne was due to attend.
And describe what happened there, Nick, because I saw one picture which did show him and his wife Camilla looking very shocked by it.
And describe what happened there, Nick, because I saw one picture which did show him and his wife Camilla looking very shocked by it.
They looked shocked because they were attacked in their official, their state car.
Paint was thrown at the car and one of the windows was smashed.
Not so that the glass went through, but that so it was damaged.
Now, this really will seem extraordinary to people because, of course, we know that the heir to the throne, let alone politicians like the Prime Minister, are heavily protected.
They're surrounded by police on motorcycles, outriders, of course, to protect them from attacks, assassination or indeed from terrorism.
And yet somehow they were not protected from this attack.
OK, Nick Robinson there.
You know, I'm going to I'm going to call BS on that.
I saw the video of the so-called attack on Prince Charles' car.
First of all, why is he driving around in an unprotected Bentley?
It's not bulletproof.
His windows were rolled down.
You can see on the video, his window was rolled down.
He's like waving to the people.
I don't think it was all that.
It's not the video I saw.
What video did you see?
I saw one of the student videos and it was just, you know, people were...
I got a student video too.
Well, yeah, and I didn't see that the windows were rolled down.
Yeah, it's cracked.
It's like, I don't know, about eight inches.
No, it is.
About six inches.
I don't know.
I'm not going to buy the whole...
I mean, it could be, but what would be the point of it?
I don't see what the endgame is if you were going to fake an attack on this car.
Well, I think that's very simple.
The endgame is total clampdown.
They're almost there.
It's almost there.
Total clampdown on the slaves.
I think the observation that the police can't do anything, and I think there's some sympathy support by the police because they're getting screwed in this deal too, and they have kids.
I don't think that this clampdown is going to work if that's the case.
They're already, well, at the end of the day, if all the people rise up, no, then no clampdown works, which is where, of course, it has to go, which is where we have to go everywhere in Gitmo Nation.
You have the kids, Cliff, because I think the kid that was one of the, I don't want to say he was an instigator, but he came before a group of people and gave this speech that I thought for a 15-year-old was ludicrously advanced.
Yes.
Which, of course, makes you wonder, you know, who wrote this thing.
But it's possible, I suppose, although I have never run into a 15-year-old that could go off like this.
I have to say when I heard this kid speak, I'm like, that's kind of like John's kids.
Well, I might be in detention a week and the school might not be very happy, but we sure showed something much bigger last Wednesday.
Thank you.
Okay, sorry.
You know, this was meant to be the first post-ideological generation, right?
This was meant to be the generation that- Right there, I'm already like, what?
Who is the post-ideological generation?
This would be something one of these kids would say because they have their own lingo and they're very introspective.
You were talking about this generation that's coming up.
They're very introspective and self-assured and they have a certain kind of a weird ego and you get the feeling that at some point they're not going to put up with the status quo by any means.
But they want to be left alone.
That's for sure.
I never thought of anything bigger than our Facebook profiles and our TV screens.
This was meant to be the generation where the only thing that Saturday night meant was X Factor.
I think now that claim is quite ridiculous.
I think now we've shown that we are as ideological as ever before.
Now we've shown that solidarity and comradeship and all those things that used to be associated with students are as relevant now as they've ever been.
Thank you.
You know, the most incredible thing that happened on Wednesday, I went down, I thought I was going to go down in lunch break and then get back in time for lessons.
Perhaps I should have known they put the guy in charge, the G20 in charge.
Perhaps I should have been more concerned for my life than for whether I was going to get down for lessons.
But when I tried to get out and I was told it was a sterile area by police officers standing and not letting anyone out, I thought, well, that's why we need a university education.
If we don't get one, we end up in police uniforms.
That was a good line.
Yeah, it does.
That's a really good line.
You know, when I was kettled in there, I was with thousands and thousands of school students who'd come down with their ties around their heads in their school uniforms, and yeah, they were cold.
who'd come down, who'd never been on a protest before, who'd never joined a political party or been involved in a political movement before, who didn't have any economic knowledge or political degrees, but they were there because they believed in something.
They were there because they believed in something bigger, and they were there because they knew that either...
You know, there weren't a million choices, there were two choices.
Either they laid down and took whatever the government threw at them, or they stood up and fought back.
And so those school students who'd never been involved in anything before stood up and they fought back.
And when they were in that kettle, being kettled in by police, you know that the word went round as we were sitting, huddling around fires, sharing out what little food we had, and the word went round, people said, we know what they're up to.
We know that they don't think we're a danger to the public.
I'm 15 years old, people there were as young as 13, we know they don't think we're going to run riot through the streets of London.
We know what they're up to.
They think that if they kettle us now, we're not going to come on a demonstration ever again.
Well, let the word go out from today, people said.
Let the word go out about next Tuesday.
Let the word go out about next week and next month and next year.
That they can't stop us demonstrating.
They can't stop us fighting back.
And however much they try to imprison us in the streets of London, those are our streets, and we will always be there to demonstrate.
We will always be there to fight.
People who had always thought that the police were just those people at the other end of the telephone line to help if there was a burglary.
People who had always thought that the media were just those friendly newspaper men who were there to give them that unbalanced picture of the facts.
People learned a lot last Wednesday.
People learned a lot.
I think this kid is actually 27, and he's a midget.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, this is a very, very good speech.
And why is he the spokesperson?
There's no background on this speech, but he came up and decided, I guess he's one of these very erudite kids that can apparently describe the situation.
But one of the things that he did bring up in this little talk was the fact that...
The kids, you know, you get involved in something like this, and you're there in it, taking part in some way, shape, or form, and then you go home after this thing breaks up, and then you watch the news reports, which lie.
Right, right, right.
That is an extremely, that's what he's talking about, about the lessons.
Right.
You get a lesson in the whole...
In how it works.
In how it works, and it doesn't make it any better, that's for sure.
Is that the end of the guy?
No, I mean, there's another minute.
Want to listen to the rest?
Yeah, you might as well listen to the rest.
As they huddled round fires and then emerged from that kettle to see headlines like vandals on the evening standard that afternoon.
People learned a lot when a police van was left in the middle of the road so that the police could tow it away and show the whole public, look what vandals these people are.
People learned a lot.
So the message that goes out from last Wednesday is very clear.
We are no longer that post-ideological generation.
We are no longer that generation that doesn't care.
We are no longer that generation that's prepared to sit back and take whatever they give us.
We are now the generation at the heart of the fight back.
We are now the generation that will stand with everyone who's fighting back.
The most inspiring thing, I think, was that just after Wednesday...
Hundreds of people joined a Facebook group, school students joined a Facebook group in solidarity with RMT members on strike.
Those are people who previously thought, those are people who previously thought tube strikes were something annoying because they stopped getting into school, now they think they've got to link arms and fight back with everyone.
So we want to show solidarity with everyone who's fighting back.
We hope you'll show solidarity with us and send a strong message to this government that they can't throw their cuts at us.
We're going to stand up and we're going to fight back.
Well, hell yeah!
You know what?
I'm liking that.
Yeah.
I'm really, really liking that.
And this reminds me of the 70s.
You know, you had that thin English guy with a shovel running down the street telling him he's going to chop Margaret Thatcher's head off.
This is good, except these kids need a little direction.
They need to understand that it's actually the banking cartel that is screwing them, and the government are just puppets.
But it's good.
This is a very, very good start.
I'm very happy, and I think that we should be ashamed here in Gitmo Nation West that we don't have this kind of movement, that we're not on the streets.
We're still watching the frickin' Kardashians.
Right.
Well, the bankers are getting billions of dollars in bailouts and they will give out no loans and all the rest of it.
And they've snuck the...
We had a little situation at the University of California where they're going to double fees or add a couple of...
They've basically been jacking up I think 30% last year.
They've been jacking up the tuitions at the University of California system.
There was a small riot.
It didn't go anywhere.
Because essentially the University of California has turned into a school specifically for overseas students where they can soak them for as much money as possible.
It's basically kind of a variation on the University of Phoenix.
Charge a lot of money.
Bring everybody over from China.
Educate them here.
A lot of Indian, Chinese students.
I think over half of the students are more than 50% either from China or India.
And from overseas.
And they don't, you know, they're just...
They're just getting soaked.
So they come over here.
They spend a billion dollars on an education.
They might as well be like the College of Arts and Crafts in San Francisco.
It's exactly what it is.
And by the way...
A real estate scheme.
You know what you should do?
While you're at it, have a fly around that area of the bay in a private airplane.
There's nothing but Asians, I'm talking about East Chinese, on the radio learning how to fly.
Because they come for their education and their pilot's license.
And they can't fly for shit, and they sure can't communicate for shit either.
But it's laughable when you hear the skies, because it's so impossible to get your pilot's license in China.
You can't.
That's right.
So they get it over here, and then there's a way to convert.
But literally, you're on the radio like...
And I'm looking at my instructor I was flying with.
What the hell is that?
I said, I don't know, man.
He said, just keep your eyes open.
Keep your eyes open.
Just keep your eyes open.
We've given up.
So yeah, it's just soaking.
These institutions are soaking them.
They're taking up.
Yeah, but then they're not doing the American public any good.
We're not getting educated.
No, because then they leave.
They go right back home with their U.S. education.
Anyway, the point is that you can't get a critical mass of protests in this country anymore because everything has been co-opted.
But we already went through a series of these issues and everybody on the other side, on the bad side, have learned all the tricks.
And the major trick is what you said.
It's the Kardashians.
Mm-hmm.
By the way, Sunday nights, we've got Kendra, who is just awesome.
Kendra with Hank, you know that Hank is the football player.
Then we have Married to Rock, which is the wives of rock stars.
And then we have this new show, John, which you really must watch, called Bridalplasty.
And Bridalplasty is an elimination-based reality show where the winner not only gets the wedding of her dreams, but full-on plastic surgery.
And as the show progresses, they get little procedures that are on their list.
So you'll literally see, you know, they have to complete some kind of puzzle or quiz, like, you know, answer what color is the White House.
And there's five contestants, but there's only four syringes of Botox on the table.
No, this is bull.
Is this right?
No, no, no.
It's called bridoplasty.
And you look at this and it's like...
Who dreams this stuff up?
And it shows you everything that is wrong with the United States of America.
And then you see these women like...
And they're holding onto the syringe, shaking like...
Oh, I've been dreaming about this Botox injection.
And of course, the chick who doesn't get it, you know...
And it's always the one who actually wanted the breast job, but she had some cancer removed, so her breasts were actually a little deformed.
She's the one that gets voted off.
The one who actually needs the fucking surgery.
It's unbelievable.
This is what we're watching.
This is why we're being destroyed.
We're being destroyed by...
We're not in 1984.
1984 is what's happening in the United Kingdom.
We're over here in the other book.
We're in some other book.
Play...
Talking about reality shows?
Yeah.
Play Palin on Skinning One.
Oh, please.
You're hurt.
Every time I hunt with Dad, I learn something new.
I learn something new, skinning the animal today, a different way that he had learned from one of our fishing partners.
I would never have known that had I not been out there today.
So anyway, so they go out and shoot a caribou, and then on TV, I'm like grimacing watching this.
You can play the second part, which is them actually skinning the animal on television as they show all the guts coming out.
It was just like, I couldn't, you know, I have nothing against this, but it's like, why do you have to show it?
I feel a lot better now.
Well, I'm always really happy when I do get an animal because usually my dad is by my side when I'm hunting.
And it's like, see dad, I did it.
I listened to what you said and I learned something and we accomplished it together.
So that's a really nice viewing too.
I want you to take each leg like this, about right there.
Is this knife good?
No, use this one.
I'm not going to gut this.
We're going to quarter it and take him home so I don't gut him.
You'll see as we take the quarters off.
This is educational, John.
This is actually quite good because, imagine, this is a skill that we still should have.
They still have it in Alaska, and apparently it's like folklore, too.
You exchange, like, oh no, that's not the way you should skin an elk.
I got a better idea, or a better technique.
It's a caribou, not an elk, a caribou.
Yeah, it was a caribou.
Which, by the way, there's plenty of caribou up there.
Oh, it's like reindeer in Sweden and Finland.
There's millions of them and they eat them.
But think about how twisted society has become, really, John, when you think about it, that we cringe at the skinning of an animal which is being skinned for food, which is a skill that you might actually need again one day, yet we have no problem looking at plastic surgery procedures and women actually fighting for plastic surgery procedures.
Does this not show you how...
No wonder we're crap here.
It's back ass words.
Oh my god.
Well, since we're going to talk about that kind of deeper thing, play the clip I have here, which is, there was a, it's called Winning and Sharing.
There was a special on ESPN. No, I'm sorry.
It was on HBO called Lombardi.
And I actually ended up watching it because it was very interesting.
I didn't know.
This was like the most influential football coach in the history of American football.
And he had him quoting about, talking about winning and how the society is, you know, in America in particular because we kind of lose our...
Or direction when we don't?
Just play this clip and I added a little kicker to it.
Winning, I think it's only natural that anyone would think that to win is important.
That's the reason you're in this business.
If you have any kind of pride or any kind of dedication or any kind of backbone or spunk to you, you should try to be the best in your own profession regardless of what it is.
Anybody who has the idea that just to play or just to take part, and that's all that's necessary, I think he's in the wrong business.
I think he's in the wrong country, let me put it that way.
I think one of the things that made America great is to try to be the best in everything that they do.
And the best, again, is signified by winning.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, we've turned everyone into pussies here.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
I just love that clip.
Yeah.
Now, let's all hold hands and tell each other a secret.
Yeah.
Anyway, I'm very proud of the Young Human Resources of Gitmo Nation East.
Those of you who are there, you have to teach your young that it's not just about the school thing.
Have them look at every single street corner, how they're being observed.
Look at the complete police state that they are living in, how they're being searched at random anywhere they go.
Have them look at that.
And please, get ready for 2012.
I have a link in the show notes to a magazine, and it's published in the United Kingdom.
It's called Counterterror Business, and Volume 4 is out for 2010.
This is complete police state porn, and it's a PDF, and it's a pretty big file, actually.
And when you see the stuff that they've got, you know, the fencing and the portable X-ray machine It blows your mind when you see...
And this is not for government.
This is for business.
This is just what's going to be normal.
It's out of control.
So please have a look at this and see where your kids are headed and tell them to fight against that too.
Who knows?
Maybe there's some Guy Fawkes left in everybody yet.
It would be great.
And I hope it catches fire everywhere.
And I'm convinced, the older I get and the more I see, that the only way out of this is we have to riot.
We have to.
I don't think there's any other way.
It's worked in the past, I think.
A couple of places.
Maybe.
I like the fact that they were yelling off with their heads.
Yeah, I love the off with their heads thing.
And the other one, give us our money back, was another one.
That's also good.
I like off with their heads better because that's actually a French term from the French Revolution, is it not?
Yeah, as far as I know.
Off with their heads.
Or it was from the Alice in Wonderland story.
Is there a difference?
And I'll say it right here.
The elitist, the queen of the Netherlands, the queen of United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East, that's where your problem is right there.
These are not just ceremonial people.
These are evil people.
These are the ones you have to go after.
I'm just waiting for the knock at the door.
It won't take too long.
Curry, come out with your hands up!
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
Alrighty.
So we have a few donors this week we want to thank.
A couple of checks came in.
One from Monica Goldsmith.
Her and her husband, Nathan, sent us a check for $60.
And also Stephen, and they're in Tucson.
Stephen M. Dean from Naperville, Illinois, $130.
And then on our regular donor conduit, PayPal, dvorak.org slash NA. Daniel Hutner, who's given before out of Murphy's, California, $110.20.
In the morning, in the early Christmas morning, John and Adam, I've been burning the candle spreading holiday cheer for the three-lettered brown machine.
I'm sending you both an early gift of double nickels on the dime for the both of you.
You should guys help.
What is the three-lettered brown machine?
I'm not sure.
Is that the TSA? I must be.
Maybe.
Or any three-letter population.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm sending you, you know, brown shirts, three letters, I don't know.
I'm sending you guys both an early gifted double nickels on the dime.
You guys helped during the long days.
I also wanted to point out that you withheld a happy Kwanzaa from the holiday greetings in the last newsletter, which, by the way, everyone should have read by now.
It's got the TSA... This is a good point, John.
I did leave out Kwanzaa.
We made such a stink about it on the show, I didn't even notice that you left it out of the talking points memo.
It's not good, my friend.
It was the letter to the talking points.
It's UPS, by the way, the brown trucks.
Oh, the brown machine, right.
Thank you, chat room.
Now, the second one I got from Andrew Glenn, a newcomer, Andy Glenn from Buckham, from UK. Oh, this is the one guy that we don't have.
I'm sorry?
You said we have no support from Gitmo Nation East, and here he is.
Here's the guy.
Yeah, but his name is Andrew Glenn.
He's a good guy.
At the beginning on my spreadsheet, for some reason, and I don't know why it is, I don't know if you can see it, I don't have the first two lines of his note.
John and Adam, I've been listening for a while from Gitmo Nation East and thought at time I contributed, especially as it's my birthday on Monday, please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
I live in the lovely Chilton Hills, just north of London, officially an area of outstanding natural beauty, but which is scheduled soon to be desecrated by a 100-yard-wide scar called High Speed 2!
This new rail promises to cut 30 minutes off the 110-mile journey from London to Birmingham.
And given that our only current high-speed line, the Eurostar to Paris, requires a minimum of 30-minute check-in, including airport-type security scanning, which is true now, our existing regular trains don't require that.
That equates to a whole zero time saved.
There you go.
That's actually amazing because most of these high-speed schemes, there's no time saved.
It actually costs you time.
Yeah.
But...
And I actually, I bet you when the calculation is finally done, it won't be zero.
It will be a minus.
I especially enjoy your coverage of the mysterious workings of the EU Starfleet Command, which receive hardly any space in the media here at all.
A cause of out of sight, out of mind perhaps, or maybe it's judges being unimportant.
That much of our lawmaking is guided by an unelected elite to keep up the good work.
Well, Yes.
That's $100 from Andy Glenn.
Now, I want to mention that there's an article that ran in the Daily Mail.
Did you see that thing that showed all of EU laws being implemented in the UK and nobody even knows about?
No, but I'm sure it's there.
Anyway, and then we have a $99.99 call-out, which you have a special letter about, because apparently Baron von Pelsmacher has decided to do a retrospective on a call-out that was from World War II. Yeah, this is like...
He's recording this, you know.
It's airman porn.
Okay, so it's a...
Niner, niner, niner, niner from Baron von Pelsmacher.
Here's the handover, over, andover, over, dover, over.
It's like airman porn.
Actually, if you're handing over the Andover over Dover, that would be to Manston.
Manston is right over Dover, and Manston is the big crash pad.
If you're ever flying to the United Kingdom, and your plane has no gear, or if you're going to crash, you're going to crash at Manston.
And say hi to them there.
Tell them I said hey.
They have the largest runway and the broadest runway in the United Kingdom, and it's right on the cliffs of Dover.
And it's put there, in fact, in World War II, so the guys who came limping back, you know, with their planes all shot up, they basically crashed there.
Because it's like one big skid crash track.
It's huge.
It's absolutely huge.
You can crash a 747 there and probably make it out alive.
Huh.
Just so you know.
Anyway.
Good information on this show.
Yes.
Just so you know.
Jordan Brown, Hanford, California, 7282.
Jordan Brown, Hanford, armpit of the hilltop watchtower in the Buzzkill bunker.
ITM, Adam and John.
I'm recently unemployed.
24-year-old.
I showed up at work on Thursday, December 2nd, to have the owner tell me that the place I was the manager of was closing its doors, emptying my PayPal account in hopes of some karma.
Oh, well, we got a little bit of that for you.
You've got karma.
I'd like to call out my brother Matt for being a douchebag.
Douchebag!
I'd also like to mention my family has a dairy in farms and they've been growing Monsanto crops for years.
They've been waiting for the drought-resistant gene in the corn to finally be introduced, but I'm sure they're still trying to perfect it for the poppies in Afghanistan first.
Well, at least he's got the right idea.
Yeah, I saw this thing on the Weather Channel about the Dust Bowl of 1832.
Do you know about this?
Well, there's a Dust Bowl of 1932.
Maybe it was...
No, I thought it was 1830.
No, no, it's a 1932 Dust Bowl.
But that was...
Okay, the 19...
1813, whatever.
But that was the...
It was like now, right?
It's like all of a sudden there was...
Except they didn't call it global warming.
They just called it really dry.
And they had, like, no water in the plains.
No water.
And it's a cycle.
It's like a 10-year cycle, and it comes back, and we're heading into it again, coincidentally.
So now it's called global warming.
Patrick Gardner, Davidsonville, Maryland, $63.
Hey, John and Adam, my girlfriend got me into the show about a year ago, and I'm hooked!
Looking for some karma for my LSAT. Keep up the good work.
Oh, we got a little bit of that for you.
No problem.
Happy to do it.
You've got karma.
And we are...
We are keeping the karma down to donations over $62.
Yeah, we have to do that.
There was a reason for that.
It was a calculation.
Oh, yeah, there was a cosmic karmic calculation.
I forget what it was, but there's a reason for it, yeah.
Wayne Hyman, St.
Petersburg, Florida, 55-55 in the morning, John and Abby.
Everyone born in 1955 turns 55 this year, including me on December 15th, so here's my donation to 55-55.
That's interesting.
Oh, Good work.
So everyone born 55, give us a donation.
Give us a call.
I'm not a douchebag.
I'm a human resource.
Thanks for watching C-SPAN so I don't have to.
It's our pleasure, man.
We love doing it.
Robert Stokes, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Double nickels on the dime.
5510.
You guys are great.
I wish I could send more of my baby.
Slaves gotta eat.
You guys are the pros, but I had a show idea.
Proclaim a douchebag of the week.
It's too much like Obermann.
Yeah, we don't want a worse person.
None of this by the week stuff.
And that would mean we have an agenda.
I don't like that.
Yeah, I can't do it.
Sorry.
But it's a good idea.
We appreciate the idea.
I encourage listeners to donate to D-D-O-S-H, the D-O-T-W. I don't know.
The douchebag of the week.
Douchebag of the week.
We can't go there.
We have enough gimmicks already that chews up a lot of time.
Andrew, we do have an interesting donation idea coming up, which I'll get to when we finish the last couple of guys.
If you ever get to it...
Andrew Sawyer, Vancouver, BC, 50 bucks.
Lisa Lang, Nighthood Layaway.
George Scanlon, Carpentersville, Illinois, $50.
And finally, Kim White in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, new listener.
Not sure why I'm giving money.
About 70% of the show is insane.
And Adam's very sexist about women.
That's one mother I'd like to say.
When they are bogus, their looks are always mentioned.
Don't you understand that the whole point of me saying, is she hot, is that it's a joke, Kim.
And the whole joke is because that is why these women are on television, is so that you don't actually get the information.
Because men, I'm actually being sexist against men, because men seem to only be able to think with their penis.
So it's, I'm actually on your side.
Boy, it's amazing how that doesn't...
Oh, there's a lot of people who misunderstand the show.
It's a very easy show to misunderstand.
I misunderstood!
Ready?
So here's an idea.
This came in from our old pal, Luke Vanderhelm.
Oh, Luke Vanderhelm.
Yes.
And he says, forget, and we're going to do this.
I'm going to put it on the website tonight, and it's going to be available at dvork.org slash any.
When you contribute, you can do this.
And I just told him, look, just the whole idea was good.
We're going to do it full cloth.
In other words, exactly what he says here.
He says, forget Sinterklaas, forget Christmas and the New Year.
How about a no-agenda New Year promotion, which we do need, by the way.
Yeah.
1-11.
1-11-11.
Two of them.
There's two of them coming up in the same month.
1-11-11 and 1-11-11.
The year's full of possibilities.
So we can do with $1.11 or 20.11 in month euros.
$111.11 or $20.11.
2011, for rich bastards like...
Well, he mentions a lot of our...
He's not rich, but anyway.
You get a governorship of Gitmo Nation, for instance.
Anyway, so there's a deal here.
We're going to work it out.
It's all numerology.
We love the numbers.
We love the numerology, so people seem to get off on it.
Now, here's the deal.
I've thought about this, and we'll discuss this.
Adam and I will discuss this off-channel.
Oh, we're going to have a meeting!
We're going to have a meeting.
We have one in 20 years.
This will be our 19-2011 meeting.
I'm excited.
This will be the meeting.
We are going to sell baronies.
Wow.
John, you have not discussed it.
Where was the meeting when we decided to talk about this in the meeting?
Well, you can veto it if you want to, but I think that we can divide up the world.
Oh, into actual districts.
Yeah.
So when the whole place falls apart, people will have some paperwork.
And they can say, I'm Baron von Pelsmacher of Antwerp.
I own Belgium.
And here's proof!
And I have a coin!
And I think they should have a hat.
Well, we might get him a hat, too.
Whatever the case is, we're going to figure out what it's going to...
I think it's a couple thousand bucks you can get a bear.
I don't know why.
We're giving him Belgium.
He can have the whole place.
That's right.
And he gets the Walloon part and he gets the Flanders part.
He can figure out the war between those two later on.
He can divide it up amongst his kids.
He can subdivide.
He's got a granddaughter.
She can take part of it.
Whatever the case is, we figure most countries, like England, I think we could probably give...
There's about 40 baronies in there, maybe.
The United States, of course, we have probably two or three per state.
But these things can't be cheap, John.
This has got to be like, this is serious business.
If we're actually dividing up the world, and this will be an official piece of paper.
Yeah.
It's not the world, it's Gitmo Nation is what we're called.
And actually, so if someone gets a barony of Ireland, it will actually say Baron of Gitmo Nation Leprechaun.
Right?
That's cool, man.
Well, we could do that.
I think it's cool.
And then we have to have some longitudes and latitudes put on it so they know what part they have.
I think Ireland is at least two baronies.
So we'll have a meeting about this.
This is a good idea.
All right.
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He celebrated his, actually he celebrates his birthday today on the 12th of December 2010.
Happy birthday everybody.
Happy birthday.
And we might as well rock this out immediately, John.
Let's get our swords out there.
You got it?
Wait.
There it is.
All right, Baron Van Pelsmacher's Baron of Gitmo Nation Sprouts.
We've still got to work on that one.
Has successfully completed payments for Damehood for his godchild Ruby.
So Ruby, we now welcome you as Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
Please enjoy your Gerbers and Pampers.
How old is his godchild, Ruby?
Not very.
That's cool, man.
So we have a dame, dame Ruby.
Yeah, that's just the way it goes with this sort of monarchy.
And you know what?
There's nothing wrong with us making our new monarchy.
Congratulations.
I don't see any problem, personally.
No, not at all.
I think it's a great idea.
Okay, I got just a couple things that I got to get off my chest, John.
First of all...
Following the biodiversity so you don't have to, the talks in Cancun, Mexico wrapped up.
This was COP16. Of course, we had huge attention for COP15 in Copenhagen.
And everyone was all over it.
And what's going on?
What are we going to do with Global...
Of course, we had ClimateGate exploding at the time of that.
And I'm very happy to report that the Cancun talks ended as if nothing had changed.
As if climate...
They plow right through it.
Nothing right now.
Now, so I have linked to the agreement, because the way it works, of course, this is all part of the United Nations, and the IPCC is a part of the United Nations, the lying bastards about the so-called science being in on everything.
So the way it works is they move it ahead every single year.
So the next one's going to be in South Africa, another place where we can't check on anyone.
Junket!
Yeah, it's another junket.
But every single time they move the agenda a little bit further.
And so what I was looking for specifically...
It was the geoengineering stuff, because we know that last week the word came out, look, if we can't really get anything going, then we have to go to Plan B, which is geoengineering.
I've read through the COP16 agreement.
Now, this is the advanced unedited version.
It's the outcome of the work of the ad hoc working group on long-term cooperative action under the convention.
This is about 30 pages.
John, mind-boggling.
It is unreadable.
And they could be saying stuff in here.
They could be saying that I have to cut off my testicles and hand it to them, and I wouldn't be able to read the language.
It is so complicated.
I do know that what I see is the red R-E-D-D. This is the...
What's the...
What does the acronym stand for?
Let me just look it up here.
R-E-D-D is the...
Reducing emissions from deforestation and degradation.
Like the way that sounds?
Basically, that means we're taking your land, slave.
You there in a poor country, you don't know how to take care of your land.
We're taking it from you.
Now, everywhere in this document, carbon credits, trading of credits, it's like it doesn't even exist.
Derivatives of credits.
Not a problem.
It's all in here.
Now, how is this being run?
They are setting up something called the...
Let me just make sure I quote it properly.
The Green Climate Fund.
Okay?
Okay.
Wow!
And they needed a trustee because, of course, the trustee has to oversee this money and make sure it's spent wisely.
A hundred billion dollars.
Seems like you need more than one guy.
Well, they found the perfect entity to oversee this as trustee for the next three years.
Who would you choose, John?
If you wanted the most trustworthy entity in the world to oversee the hundred billion dollars that the human resources of the world are going to put into the pot, apparently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The World Bank.
I know.
The World Bank.
Oh, I thought it was going to be Clinton.
Yeah.
That would have been even better.
Now, the World Bank.
We think the World Bank will be great.
The World Bank will be great at doing that.
So, you know, help me read through this.
People got to go back and read the book again.
You know, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
Yeah, you really have to.
It's a big joke.
Luckily, I couldn't really find any...
I'll tell you something.
If you want to make money, because where's that $100 billion going to?
It's going to research.
It's going to promotion of global warming and climate change agendas.
That's what this whole document is.
And that's when we heard on the previous show, Ms.
Hedegaard is talking about, you know, investors really want to know that this is long-term because everyone is going to be jumping on this $100 billion.
This is money in the bank.
All you got to do is you got to suck the right penis and have the right proposal and you can get this money.
It's just making money for elitist pricks.
It has nothing to do with saving your earth.
How do you really feel?
Oh, it angers me to read this.
It angers me.
And then the funniest thing...
I get this email from...
Let me see if I can find him.
Uh...
I get this email from Al.
It says, I thought you'd like this.
I was talking to my sister about Christmas stuff and my three-year-old niece says, hey, why don't you just charge it?
She hands me a pretend credit card.
And I'm putting this picture in the show notes.
The credit card, it looks just like a MasterCard.
It's got a little expiration date on there.
It's got a little, it doesn't have a name or anything.
The card is from the World Bank.
Nah!
Ha ha!
I said, I emailed Al back, I said, dude, where did she get this?
I need to know where she, this must have been a part of some game or something.
I want to know where the kid got this from.
It's amazing.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, one other thing, and then I'll be done, and then you can do whatever you want to do.
I only got one other thing I want to discuss.
Well, okay, I've got one, which is, everyone's sending the most emailed emails.
A story this week.
Two to the head!
Two to the head for Martin Madoff.
Let me tell you something, people.
This is not two to the head.
Don't make me laugh.
This is what happened.
And by the way, it's really in the story, if you read it.
So Mark Madoff is a 46-year-old who had nothing to lose.
He's living it up.
Everything's great.
He's got a billion dollars offshore.
He's got a new wife.
He's got two young kids.
Oh, no, and now he has to hang himself with the dog leash.
No.
No, no, no.
How creative.
Let me tell you.
The dog leash is symbolic, by the way.
Of course it is.
By the way, who discovers him?
Well, his wife, who happens to be in their Florida pad with their other child, calls up her stepfather, who is an incredibly powerful lawyer.
He goes, apparently he's got a key, he goes over to the Soho luxury loft, finds him, And I love this story, the way they report it.
A police officer stood guard in the lobby of Madoff's 12-story luxury loft apartment in Soho Saturday morning.
An official from the medical examiner's office arrived in a van Saturday morning.
So here's how it works.
Look, there's all kinds of lawsuits being geared up against me, and I don't know what my old man is doing, but I'm getting out.
I'm checking out.
I'm going to Paraguay.
It's like, I'm going to pretend I'm dead.
This is a complete fake suicide.
The guy gets rolled out into the medical examiner's van.
The guy's in Paraguay by now, living it up.
Hookers and blow, baby, with all the money.
This guy didn't commit suicide.
Bull crap.
I'll give you that one.
I mean, if he is dead, which is, you know, we don't know, of course, one way or the other, he would have been executed by somebody who, I mean, he knows where the money is.
Of course he does.
Of course he knows what the money is.
They're afraid he's going to talk, but if he's in a 12...
First of all, let's back up to it.
Did it actually say 12-story high loft?
Yes.
Which is Jon Bon Jovi's building, by the way.
But it literally says...
So, first of all, when they...
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Do you realize how valuable a 12-story loft in Manhattan?
Yeah.
Duh.
That has got to...
I mean, I know people that live in lofts.
And there's a lot of people that...
Famous people that live in lofts.
But nobody has a 12-story one.
Well, I don't know if it's actually...
If it's all his...
But the tip offs are here.
The tip offs are That his wife, who was in Florida with their other young son, was concerned when he sent an email to her saying, oh, you know, whatever.
Yeah.
And then she sends her stepfather, who is a very...
He's a high-profile, high-up-there lawyer, to go and check on him at 7.30 in the morning.
Like, the guy's got a key.
They're weird.
Yeah, yeah.
He finds him hung...
With a dog leash.
Let me tell you, that's not easy to hang yourself with a dog leash.
I don't think, you know, it's like there's no note.
Right, now here's the kicker.
It seems to me if he's going to fake his own death that he would leave a note.
Well, that's what the email is.
The email is supposed to be like some form of note.
But it's so clear when you have a police officer standing guard.
Why does a police officer have to stand guard?
And why is it reported that way?
Why?
Because they don't want anybody seeing the body.
And then an official from the medical examiners, and I looked at all the pictures, it's laughable, arrives in a van Saturday morning.
Why?
A van.
They literally, and you see the picture of a body bag.
You don't know who's in there.
It could be the guy.
It could not be the guy.
Could be his collection of porn.
But they literally roll him into a van.
It's not like an ambulance or anything.
It's like a van.
Doors are closed and who knows where he's off to.
I'm saying the guy faked his death.
Okay.
You know, it seems to me, since the Madoff thing went down, it's been a year or more, hasn't it?
Two years, two years.
You've got plenty of time.
Oh, yeah, by the way, two years to the day that his dad got arrested.
Oh.
Yeah, another little tip off there.
Okay, well, you've got two years.
You've still got your money.
You're somehow off the hooks, who knows why, whoever you bribed.
You had to bribe your way to get that far.
So you go down and you explore South America.
Do we have any evidence that he's ever left the country or done anything?
We don't know.
We don't know anything because the reporters never covered this stuff.
Well, the first thing I did is I started looking at flights leaving from Teterboro.
It was very hard to see.
I figured that's what I would do.
I'd have myself shipped over to Teterboro and I'd fly out maybe up who knows which way.
There's a couple of flights that went to, like, Dominican Republic and some other stuff.
But once you get out of the country, you can do whatever you want.
You can fly to Mexico and then go anywhere.
Or Canada, for that matter.
But anyway, so you go to Canada, you go to Toronto, and you jump on a plane to...
Now, you watch his wife, right?
His second wife.
You watch.
She's going to be so distraught, she's going to move to, I don't know, South America.
You watch.
If she moves to South America, then it's a done deal.
You watch.
Keep your eye on her.
Where's she going?
I'm telling you, I don't believe this for a second.
Yeah, I'm not for a second.
I'll take the...
And his brother's probably pissed.
Like, Fucking son of a bitch.
We were supposed to do it next year.
We were supposed to do it together.
That guy jumped the gun, the bastard.
I can't believe that shit.
And he bets he gets cremated.
It'll be cremated too, by the way.
Right.
Of course, cremation is the best.
Quick cremation.
They can still drop an empty casket in the ground.
It doesn't make any difference.
But whatever the case is, yeah.
And that's where you'd go.
You go to Paraguay, typically.
Yeah, that's where you want to be.
I think most of the countries down there don't have good extradition.
I think you can go to Venezuela.
You can go to Argentina.
Argentina's fun.
But you'd probably be less likely to have some paparazzi who'll catch you in Argentina.
Nobody in Paraguay.
Your paparazzi in Paraguay, they shoot you.
Then I finally want to talk about Veronica Cohen.
Do you know who Veronica Cohen is?
I've heard of a Cohen.
Veronica Cohen, real name of Ronnie Chasen.
Oh yeah, right.
Veronica Cullen, a Russian immigrant.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh yes, and there's a reason that I'm bringing that up.
So she changed her name to Ronnie Chasen when she moved out to Hollyweird and became a PR publicist.
A very well-known one.
So, of course, we know that the Beverly Hills Police Department is covering something up because the whole thing is so sketchy and so laughable.
We don't have to go through all the laughable parts of it, but here's what I have been told by my insiders.
Extra, extra.
And you're in the milieu.
I am in the milieu.
And I've asked specifically some people to sniff around, and I got a call two days ago.
And what I'm hearing is that this was a Russian mob hit, and the reason was she put together a deal which my sources say had more to do with music than with film.
And they got screwed on the deal and they killed her as a message to the rest.
And this guy who didn't do the hit but who set it up, he was so freaked out that he would rather kill himself than have these guys apparently kill him painfully and slowly.
But that this is a music-based deal that the Russian mob got screwed on that she set up and they killed her to send a message and there's other people out there who still have to make good on this deal.
Well, there's a couple things that we should do as background.
One, the Russian mob is huge in Southern California.
Yeah.
Big time.
In fact, there's a couple of small towns, I believe in the Valley, that are literally owned by the Russian mob.
Yeah.
I can't remember that.
I saw a 60 Minutes special on one of them once in this.
So basically, it's a town that is just, it's all Russians, all mob.
Oh, yeah.
And that's Southern California.
So there's a lot of deals.
And the Russian mob is notorious for...
For torturing people like the guy who they obviously killed himself.
But they're also of the type that if somebody was involved or knows something, they'd kill him, make it look like a suicide.
And then the third element that I think is worth noting is the...
The tipster.
I think if you track...
They're not going to tell you who that is.
Came into America's Most Wanted, you mean.
Some tipster told about the guy on the bicycle who killed himself, supposedly, after killing her for no apparent reason, in the middle of Beverly Hills on a bicycle.
And picking up the shell casings.
Well, it could have been a revolver, but typically those guys don't use revolvers.
They use 9mm, and supposedly it's a 9mm, and there's no revolver like that.
So the shell casings are an issue, it seems to me, but now they're saying, well, it was a revolver.
Well, maybe.
Yeah, whatever.
So anyway, the point is that it's sketchy.
It makes a lot of sense that it could be a mobbed-up deal.
Now that I know she's Russian, that changes things.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
I didn't know that.
And then what's just kind of funny, because the whole interest that John and I have in this...
And by the way, wait, stop.
One more thing just came to mind.
The mob always has, by anybody that's mobbed up on any way, there's always, they love puns, which is some people consider the highest and some people consider it the lowest form of humor.
I mean, we had a mob guy in the witness protection program out here who started a company called White Front.
Yeah.
It was a huge retail operation.
I still think Target makes me wonder.
But her name, Ronnie Chasen.
I'm Chasen.
Chasen, yeah.
It's funny.
Classic.
Yeah, it is all classic.
All right.
But I really first got interested in this when people started laughing at Randy Quaid, who was literally saying, Russian mob.
He started this.
He said, Russian mob, it's all messed up.
They're out there.
They're taking people's money.
They're killing people.
And of course, if you look at Extra Extra or Entertainment Tonight or E! or whatever, idiots.
They're total idiots.
But when you look at the business of making money off of dead people, George Lucas now.
It's putting dead actors back into movies.
I got a whole story on him that's in the show notes.
And of course, we really got to get in on the act.
Who is now jumping in?
Dog the Bounty Hunter is now going after the Quades.
He's tweeting about it.
Like, I'm going to come and get you, Randy Quaid.
You can't run from me, Randy Quaid.
Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon.
It's so dog-eat-dog, this whole business.
That business is bad.
That if the Russians aren't out to kill you, then Dog the Bounty Hunter is going to come and get you in Canada.
I think the Canadians have a very rigid law.
Dog the Bounty Hunter, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, could wind up with a long prison sentence if he thinks he's going into Canada to pull that crap.
Oh yeah, the Canadians don't mess around.
They will totally throw you in jail.
But what's interesting, it's just one little thing that I want people to look at.
So I'm looking at Dog the Bounty Hunter's tweets, and I see that he has this background on his Twitter page for something called SoAct.net.
And I'm like, what is SoAct.net?
And it's this social network that is bulletin board listed, over-the-counter, OTCBB. And it's some guy, and he's got, like, Andy Rooney.
He's got, well, of course, he's got Bill Shatner.
And all these people have joined up to this network, and it's some kind of sketchy public company.
I don't know.
It's weird.
It's something really weird.
Danny Glover.
And they're all saying, oh, the So Act is a social network where people get together and make a difference.
And it's scary.
Soact.net.
You should take a look at it.
I put a link in the show notes.
I couldn't quite understand what it was.
This guy is like a midget who walks around.
He's like one of these freaky people who takes pictures with celebrities.
And literally, he's a midget because you can tell he's standing next to people.
He's coming up to their belly button.
And nothing against midgets.
I was married to one.
But it's just like...
It's freaky.
Really, really freaky.
He's got all these people on his website.
And I don't know.
And Dog the Bounty Hunter is promoting it.
So, you know...
I don't know.
Maybe that's the secret club.
There may be a clue within this.
Could be.
I don't know.
I'm looking at the SOAC website.
It's just Mickey Mouseville.
Right.
But he's got public money.
HTML, you know, 1997.
I know.
But it's kind of scary, right?
Well, how scary it is.
It's just weird.
Okay, I'm tired now.
What do you got?
I got nothing.
I was just going to go on and on about the Madoff thing.
You're just going to go on and on and on about the Madoff thing forever.
I guess...
Do you have an update on WikiLeaks?
I mean, it's now so tiring that everyone is talking about it.
Everywhere, on every single station, across Gitmo Nation.
Are they?
Yeah, they're still talking about it.
Now it's like...
Now, it's funny because now everyone is saying, oh, you know, there's got to be CIA. I'm like, does everyone listen to this show and not donate?
Well, you know, I'm now thinking, my current thing is maybe it's not CIA because there's too many CIA memes cropping up.
Everyone's pointing the finger at the CIA because the CIA, in fact, even my son, JC, sent a note about, you know, the one, oh, it turns out that one of the WikiLeaks mirrors is a honeypot for the CIA. I got that from a ton of people as well.
And, you know, now people, and then I ran into two or three analysis pieces that went on with basically our analysis about the CIA's possible involvement and how it would benefit them.
And, you know, we have our theory based on the fact that they're out to get Hillary or they're out to get Obama or there's a fight going on or whatever.
And so now I'm thinking, well, maybe it's not the CIA, maybe it's a disinformation channel set up by somebody else to make it look like the CIA, but there's obviously an intelligence agency involved, or we wouldn't get the kind of coverage we're getting, we wouldn't get the kind of disinformation we're getting, we wouldn't get the look over here thing happening every which way about the WikiLeaks, look over here, look over there.
So I don't know.
I'm wondering whether or not this could be a different intelligence agency or even NSA for all you know.
I think it's purely the Ministry of Defense.
I think it's 100% Pentagon.
They are not the CIA. I think they have every reason to mess with the CIA if they can.
I think that all the money points towards the Pentagon and the military-industrial complex.
This will be used.
I mean, they have the Cyber Command Center.
Why have they not attacked WikiLeaks?
Because it's much better to let all kinds of crazy stuff happen and then say, okay, now we've got to ramp it up.
Now we've got to go in and we've got to shut down the Internet.
We've got to shut this down, shut that down.
And they can just build up all of these.
It's a money game.
Well, it's always about money.
The one thing is always overlooked when we start analyzing stuff.
Always money.
And when people start looking at things, they always forget the money.
Because it's always about money.
So my thinking with the WikiLeaks thing is we have to start seeing who benefits money-wise.
I mean, there's money and power too, but generally speaking, the way it's been going of late, it's only money because the power can come and go.
So who's going to make out on this deal in terms of...
The securite industry.
Yeah, well, they're definitely going to.
The scanners and all the rest of these jokers.
So I have, you know, I'm now looking at it from only, I'm only looking at the WikiLeaks things from a meta perspective.
The stories that are coming out are interesting.
Every once in a while, we're going to have to comment on one or two because it'll be too funny.
There's going to be a lot of humor, you know, a lot of crazy memos that will be released, and there's still going to be complaining.
You get to see who's on what side of the freedom movement, if there is such a thing.
I mean, when you see, you know, you have Newt Gingrich, you know, calling for the guy's head, and we should shut it down, and people sitting there wringing their hands over, God, it's going to ruin our relations with the world and all the rest of it, and Gates himself doesn't even think so, and it's just, you know, it's and Gates himself doesn't even think so, and it's just, you know, it's allowing people to, at least if nothing else, we're able to see whose side people are on regarding Right.
You know, some people are on one side of the argument and some people are on the other.
And it's the people that are on the other side of the argument that are really the enemy.
Yeah, mark it down.
Write some of these names down for sure.
You'll need that later when we do the test.
Yeah.
There were just a couple of disturbing things.
We had Gitmo Nation rancid meatballs.
We had a terrorist attack.
Complete fractal.
Complete, right down to an artist depicting Muhammad at all, in whatever light.
Guy blows himself up.
Of course, he only blows himself up.
It's like, whoops.
He literally only blew himself up in Stockholm during shopping season.
So, congratulations, Gitmo Nation rancid meatballs.
By the way, you were about to have your entire constitution changed to that of the EU. Well, now you really got it.
Completely set in.
Another fractal, in fact, I should be playing the jingle.
You actually called that one, John, the Portugal fractal?
Oh, yeah.
You want to explain that one?
Well, the Portugal fractal, which happened, of course, in Ireland, and I think the fractal began in Greece, which is the, we got no problem!
We got no problem.
We don't need your help.
We don't need the IMF. We don't want the IMF coming and taking over the place.
And then, of course, one thing leads to another, and the next thing you know, you're getting help whether you like it or not, and the IMF is in there, and there's a bunch of other intermediate steps in this fractal.
But it appears that this is the one that Ireland just used.
Now, Portugal is using the exact same one, and then Spain will be next with the same.
We don't need any help.
And it's just like, can't they come up with a different script?
No, because I think if it works, it works.
You know, it's like Shakespeare.
And the public doesn't seem to notice.
No, it's like...
It's like this exact same thing, step by step, and people go, oh, okay.
I mean, how dumb is everybody?
Yeah, unfortunately.
So I have one little clip that we could play if you want to share something I think is just kind of...
I don't know.
I found it...
It's nice that people are generous.
General Mills has, you know, cares enough that they give money or whatever.
But there's something, I don't know, oddly...
I don't know.
I wouldn't say it was sick.
It's just disconcerting that we have...
This program underway.
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Isn't Hamburger Helper sawdust?
I'm just saying.
I'm sure there's a lot of, you know, whatever that, you know, wood, they have a wood ingredient.
It isn't actually food, is it?
It's a helper.
No one understands.
You have to explain Hamburger Helper to our listening public outside of Gitmo Nation proper.
Hamburger Helper is usually like, it's essentially like, it's got pasta and all these other things mixed in, and it's a way to stretch.
What little protein you might get.
So you take like a pound of burger and you fry it up and you mix in Hamburger Helper and you got, you know, five pounds of food.
We got five pounds of food now.
You know, it's sad, but Soylent Green is someone in the chat room.
That's what it is.
It's exactly what it is.
It's people!
It's just people.
Have you ever seen that movie yet?
No, I still haven't seen it.
Oh, you've got to see it.
I know, I know, I know.
It's like I'm going through the list of things to see.
There's a lot to do.
I'm watching too much C-SPAN. I'm sure it's on Netflix.
Yeah.
Or it should be.
Anyway, 10 dead in Britain as H1N1 has returned.
No?
Really?
Yeah.
How come, wait a minute, hold on a second, let me ask you a question here, a technical question.
With every flu that comes and goes, they have a different shot and they get the shot that year.
And then the next year, there's new flus because it recombines every year to make three new flus.
And it dies off after the flu season is over.
It's done.
You don't get that flu again.
How come this flu is sticking around?
How come all the other flus come and go and come and go and come and go?
How come this one flu doesn't come and go like the rest of them?
You got me, John.
You really got me.
Let me see what they're saying.
Small proportion, 500 deaths, die, the children, you're screwed, take the shot, bend over, slave.
For most people, flu is not life-threatening and usually lasts 7 to 10 days.
However, it can be far more dangerous for those in at-risk groups, such as elderly, pregnant, patients with heart problems, diabetes, lung, liver, or...
Renal diseases.
What's a renal disease?
Liver.
Kidney.
Liver.
Kidney.
That's kidney.
Kidney.
Death.
The seasonal flu jab protects against the dominant strays.
This year it protects against three types of flu, including the type known as swine flu.
It's amazing, John.
It is amazing.
My understanding was they were going to make their seasonal flu shot, which always contains three types of flu, that are guessed.
By the way, they guess at what they're going to be.
And then they added the H1N1 to that mix of three.
Yeah.
Which would mean four.
It doesn't matter.
We're all going to die of cholera.
But the question I have to ask, besides the fact that why didn't this flu go away like all the rest of them, the question number two is why did we hear at the beginning of the swine flu epidemic you needed two shots and you couldn't mix it with the other flu shot?
Now, you don't need two shots, and it's mixed.
It's mixed in.
They're giving us, like, they need a talking points memo so they don't change their story constantly.
It's the hamburger helper of flu shot.
I'm telling you, it's amazing what they've got done for us.
I'm quite happy.
I feel that they are looking out for our best interest, John.
Anyway, we did have our talking points.
We went out.
Everybody was happy with it.
We're going to do another one.
I think the next one will be on high-speed rail.
These things are one page long.
They're no longer.
And they just have points that you can use at a cocktail party.
And you should get on the mailing list if you want to get them.
Or you donate, which is the way most people get on the mailing list are donors.
And you'll get these every time we can put one together.
We have about two or three backed up.
And I think that the trains one is really good because it's a tricky one as well because you don't want to be...
I mean, all of these are very, very tricky.
That's why we have these talking points memos that we send out.
But it is a way that you can peaceably...
Fight the elitist takeover of bullcrap in our world by changing people's views one person at a time.
And I'd say this is a very, very hard one.
It's a really tough one because everyone has been so indoctrinated so perfectly well about trains being great.
Yeah, I came up with a new one on this because I was talking to somebody the other day throwing what I thought the memo points would be.
And one of them is like...
You know, we have to modernize our transportation system.
How more modern can you be than flying in a jet?
Yeah, at 500 miles an hour.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Pretty much it's number one talking point.
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