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	Let me stroke my white pussy for a moment.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, December 16th, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 261.
	This is no agenda.
	Finding the foots in a sea of disinformation.
	From the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, and the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the sun is shining while the rest of the country bathes in snow, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	And in the morning to you, my friend John.
	Good morning to you, Adam, and to all ships at sea.
	And to the boots on the ground and the wings in the skies.
	They are plenty, and they are tuned in, listening, and, of course, our human resources in the chat room at noagendachat.net, all charged up and ready to go the way your government loves you.
	That's the way it's wanted, it's needed.
	So we have our first victim of see something, say something.
	No, really?
	You're kidding me.
	This can't be true.
	I'm going to blog this probably.
	I should have blogged it a couple days ago.
	It happened two days ago in Long Beach.
	Some guy is in his backyard fiddling with his...
	You know, the nozzles that you can buy for your hose that look, you know, the gun nozzle, you squeeze it and it shoots out the...
	Yeah, it's called the spray nozzle.
	Spray nozzle.
	The guy's dicking around with the spray nozzle.
	One of his neighbors calls the cops saying, this guy's in the backyard playing with a gun.
	Oh, of course.
	The cops come over, kind of surround the place and just unceremoniously kill the guy.
	No!
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	I didn't see any of this reporting.
	Oh, of course not.
	Why would you see anything?
	Wait, they killed the guy?
	They just shot him without even saying anything.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah.
	People out there are going to look it up.
	Long Beach, California, a man shot in the backyard.
	Oh, no.
	By the police.
	And, of course, Long Beach has got a bad reputation anyway for its miserable police department.
	And, of course, what's going to happen, the family's going to sue for wrongful death.
	The Long Beach City will pay, you know, $10 million or something.
	Come right out of the taxpayers' coffers.
	Exactly.
	Then I'll be like, hey, Mickey, can you just fiddle with the spray nozzle?
	The point I'm making here, nobody gets fired.
	The cops go on probation or something, and they'll have some bogus...
	Well, he was holding a gun, we thought.
	Nobody gets fired.
	Nothing happens.
	The taxpayers are out $10 million, and we go on to the next episode of stupidity.
	And, of course, this...
	The neighbor, of course, is at fault as much as the cops.
	Yeah, because this is the whole rat on your neighbor thing and everyone starts freaking out and starts calling everybody about everyone being a terrorist.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, you know, so Janet, I'm sorry, Lucy Napolitano, we've changed her name, if anything, just to piss her off.
	Well, she looks more like Lucy.
	She looks like a Lucy, I agree.
	She looks like a Lucy.
	So Lucy Napolitano was on our National Treasure on NPR, and NPR did a nice little ditty.
	And we can play some of it because it's amazing to hear the human resources of these Gitmo nation-states talking about the See Something, Say Something campaign and how incredibly great they think it is.
	What?
	Oh yeah, of course.
	Why would anybody think this is great?
	This is like Cuba in the 60s.
	Well, that does come up in the piece.
	And that's when Lucy just goes into, she starts laughing, and it's just hilarious.
	The NPR montage of the slaves on the streets is very interesting, because you do hear some people say, like, well, you know, why would I want to ask a Walmart employee, you know, to help me?
	But listen to a little bit of this.
	I just found it very curious, and a real piece of, yeah, propaganda, really, from NPR. Yeah.
	For the last few years, commuters in cities like New York and Washington, D.C. could count on hearing this message ring out in the subway tunnels.
	You heard right.
	That's the voice of Janet Napolitano.
	Lucy.
	Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, telling people, if you see something, say something.
	But before we even go further, John, I mean, you've worked in media, I've worked in media, we're still kind of in some form of media industry.
	Is Janet Napolitano, is she really the right person to communicate?
	Does she have the right voice to communicate such an important message?
	Or should they have some kind of professional voiceover artist?
	Or is this an egotistical thing?
	Before you finish your clip, now this is going to be different.
	We're going to have a clip interrupting a clip.
	Before you finish your clip, play the Napolitano on Napolitano clip, because Judge Napolitano, who's no relation, he says that this woman is a...
	Well, just play that clip.
	I think it's in a group.
	To see her face reminds me of Emanuel Goldstein, big brother in 1984.
	It's a novel, but you saw his face everywhere.
	So she's saying, if you see something, say something.
	Tell us whatever you see.
	You know what will come next?
	They will make it a crime if we see something and don't say something.
	And then we are East Germany and North Korea.
	Well, on that happy note, Merry Christmas!
	Ho, ho, ho!
	Was he on Beck's program?
	Yeah, he was on Beck's program.
	This is Beck running interference.
	This is Beck trying to protect his own turf, by the way.
	That and also Beck trying to protect that line of thought because Fox has two lines of thoughts that are contradicting each other.
	We've pointed this out a million times.
	And the Napolitano-Beck line of thought, which is that this is all bad, is one line of thought.
	And the other one that says, well, you know, we've got to save the country.
	And Assange is a bad guy, too.
	Let's finish this off.
	Your clip interrupted the clip, and this is Cliptus Interruptus.
	And starting this week, the anti-terrorism public awareness campaign is expanding in a big way to your local checkout line.
	If you see something suspicious in the parking lot or in the store, say something immediately.
	Customers in more than 500 Walmart stores across the country will see Napolitano in this video.
	Report suspicious activity to your local police or sheriff.
	If you need help, ask a Walmart manager for assistance.
	This comes just as the Department of Homeland Security is looking to drop the color-coded terror alert system.
	This is also something weird that I've been hearing going around.
	Yeah, we're going to stop the color-coded system.
	I just keep it at a permanent spiked red, I guess.
	No, orange.
	Oh, is that what it is?
	Permanent orange?
	Yeah, it's been printed as a poster in orange.
	I know, I know, I know.
	It's non-movable.
	It's non-movable.
	It's just orange.
	What's the point?
	Well, okay, someone finally caught on.
	We'll see if they actually do that.
	And after air travelers cried foul over new airport pat-down procedures.
	Oh, I'm crying foul, John.
	Have you cried foul?
	Oh, foul, foul.
	Foul!
	2.5!
	In the penalty box, you foul!
	This was NPR? Oh yeah, of course!
	Foul!
	I think we called a little more than foul, okay?
	Called foul.
	Body scanners.
	And as the head of the Justice Department, Eric Holder, defends undercover stings that in one case involved a man flagged over a Facebook posting.
	So today's cover story?
	Our role in our security.
	Yes.
	We'll start with Walmart.
	Okay.
	Shoppers at one store outside Nashville told our producer...
	I noticed...
	You had a little laugh in her voice, didn't you?
	Wait until...
	Yeah.
	Hey, one guy's over at Walmart.
	You know what I'm saying.
	And we went to Nashville.
	That's where the stupidest slaves are.
	Kim Green, what they think about the Homeland Security messages echoing over the aisles.
	What do I think about it?
	I think we ought to be 24-7, 365, aware of what's going on around us.
	That's kind of wild right there.
	I think that's a little unnecessary.
	Do you hear how they've mixed it all together?
	This is like a mega mash now.
	So they're just taking little bits and pieces, and when it flows, and I won't interrupt it, It's really, it messes with your brain.
	For shoppers in Walmart?
	Yeah, especially in small city like Nashville.
	I don't think someone like that would be shopping at Walmart.
	It doesn't make me feel really happy to walk around that and then think, oh gosh, I even need to look over my shoulder while I'm grocery shopping.
	I guess it don't hurt, you know.
	I don't see the bad in it, I don't guess.
	What do you think suspicious means in this case?
	If you saw something, what would you think of as suspicious and would you report it?
	I guess that's a matter of opinion, you know?
	I don't know what I would consider to be suspicious.
	I guess 9-1-1 is going to get overloaded now.
	A piece of people in one area.
	Wingering around.
	Behind the stores, side of the store.
	Wow!
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	This is unbelievable.
	I mean, whoever the audio editor is, he's really come up with a new idea.
	It sounds like a conversation.
	Yes, and he's mixing it back and forth.
	He's going from one back.
	I mean, this took some work, actually.
	This took some real work.
	It definitely took work.
	Let's keep going.
	Picking out goods to purchase.
	I probably would report something, but then I probably don't trust the people here that I would report it to.
	I don't think they would care either way, so.
	And do you think there's any danger that people might sort of profile their other people?
	I'm sure.
	I am absolutely sure.
	Do you hear that?
	Profile other...
	I'm sure.
	It's unbelievable.
	And this is audio.
	And this is so good.
	There's an opportunity for that to happen.
	You see the way that people look at certain people, the way they're dressed.
	I mean, I saw some people in Walmart...
	You know, dress.
	The dress of people.
	Every country and people kind of look at them funny.
	Good grief.
	Walmart, usually a person at Walmart is on a mission to buy something but not blow it up, I don't think.
	And if that's what their purpose is, I don't know if they have clues that they're going to hit Walmart next.
	I don't know.
	The voices of Walmart shoppers outside Nashville.
	Okay.
	Okay, wait, hold on.
	First of all, to anybody out there who, and I would challenge anybody out there who's a journalist professor or anything else, I think this is an ethically deplorable approach to clips.
	Agreed.
	Absolutely agreed.
	It is a complete distortion of the facts that they gathered on the ground.
	Right.
	Unless those people were all standing next to each other and actually having that conversation.
	Having the conversation, yeah.
	Which they weren't because they were stepping up.
	It was just not what was going on.
	It's a deplorable ethical breach by NPR to put that clip together that way.
	I totally agree.
	Unless, you know, unless they come and say, here, we've got a piece of propaganda here we want to play for you.
	And play it.
	Well, I think that what happened is like, hello, we'd like Lucy to come on the show.
	Don't worry, we'll do a good job.
	We'll make sure we set it up properly for her.
	Because, of course, Lucy...
	Lucy comes on the show.
	Tennessee.
	I talked with Secretary Napolitano this week and asked her, why Walmart?
	We are expanding See Something, Say Something.
	Now, something you said to me the other day, off air, John, is, um, and, and, you know, obviously, neither you or I have an issue with, uh, with sexuality.
	As far as I know, I certainly don't.
	But you said, you know, it's really interesting how Janet slash Lucy Napolitano speaks in a lesbian milieu way, which is through the teeth.
	And you said that, I think it was after the show.
	I'm like, what are you talking about?
	And then I started paying attention.
	And this is indeed, you know, well, you have sometimes very outrageous male gay behavior.
	Oh, girlfriend, honey, whatever.
	We have one of those clips coming up later.
	Okay.
	So, but listen to Napolitano.
	I mean, and it's really, it's like she's talking like this little truth, man.
	It's almost like annoying.
	A number of venues.
	It's Walmart.
	It's Mall of America.
	It's different sports and sporting arenas.
	It's transit systems.
	And as the slogan says, if you see something, say something.
	As the slogan says, if you see something, say something.
	Well, yeah, you twist it a little bit toward the upper crust, you know, New England foppish preppy.
	But it's actually, it's a little more subtle than that.
	And it's pretty straightforward, but it's a little talking between the teeth.
	It's a little bit.
	It's just subtle.
	Jodie Foster does it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Holly Hunter, I think, has that.
	And if you listen to most of the women that are outed lesbians, with the exception of professional voices like Ellen DeGeneres, which I have never noticed that with her.
	But generally speaking, you'll hear that.
	And it's only, I think, it's a subgroup, but it's a...
	Well, I mean, I don't think there's any question that Janet Napolitano is a lesbian.
	But it doesn't pertain to the story at all, but it's just like, you know, this is audio, right?
	And I'm listening to it, and I'm like, wow, she does have a very weird way of speaking.
	And she is the spokesperson for See Something, Say Something.
	What are you hoping to accomplish with this expansion?
	Fear.
	Shut up, slaves.
	Getting more tips specifically or general awareness?
	Both.
	Not only tips, but general awareness.
	People being what we call situationally aware.
	But time and time again, we have seen that even suspected terrorist plots have been foiled by alert citizens who report something that really seems out of the ordinary.
	You know, and I'll just insert it right now.
	The real reason why this See Something, Say Something has been started now is the whole idea is to look over there and not over here.
	You've got to be looking at your neighbor with his spray nozzle.
	You've got to be looking at suspicious people in Walmart.
	Please, whatever you do, don't look at Janet Napolitano.
	Please don't look at government.
	Don't look at what the actual security state is doing to you.
	And look at your peers.
	Look at your neighbors.
	That's what this is about.
	Complete distraction.
	Now, this program isn't new.
	I know I've heard your voice a number of times.
	Wow.
	John.
	I'm staying on the platform here, the metro subway system in Washington.
	And obviously it began in New York City after 9-11.
	But, you know, the New York Times reported that there weren't a lot of useful tips coming in.
	Well, part of it is tips, but part of it is just having people be aware.
	There was a recent study that said that 80% of the foiled terrorist plots in the last, I think, five years have been the results of citizen tips or citizen information.
	Can you give an example of that?
	Well, I can give several.
	One of the most graphic, of course.
	What the hell is this?
	Don't tell me this is my system going wacky again.
	Do you hear that?
	New cables.
	Let me just see.
	Hello and welcome to Inside...
	Frig me.
	It's that thing again.
	Yeah, you need some...
	You have a cabling issue.
	You gotta get some new cables.
	No, it's not a cabling issue.
	Well, you said you fixed it last time by wiggling something.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	But it's like...
	Hold on a second.
	Let me try this.
	It's really weird.
	Because I started everything up fresh this morning, as I do.
	And it should work perfectly.
	Let me see.
	This is the Times Square.
	Damn.
	It is odd.
	Yeah, hold on a second.
	It'll just be worth it just to start it up.
	Well, we can go over the executive producers if you want.
	Well, but I'm getting to like the punchline here.
	This is the worst part.
	Yeah, oh, yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	We'll actually probably, I'll probably even edit this out for once.
	How annoying is that?
	It's actually kind of interesting.
	I'm sorry?
	It's not uninteresting to watch you struggle with your...
	What a machine...
	I forgot.
	What are you running again?
	You running what?
	It's a Macintosh, I tell you.
	Oh, a Macintosh!
	It's a Macintosh.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me just restart this.
	That's really very interesting why that's happening.
	Let's reboot the whole thing.
	No, I don't.
	It sure sounds like a wire, though, doesn't it?
	No, well, it's a virtual wire, in essence.
	Well, maybe a virtual wire needs to be...
	Right.
	Some new virtual wires.
	That's exactly what I'm doing.
	I've got a bad connection on this virtual wire.
	Cold solder joint.
	It's unfair because I get up extra early just to set up all of the routing and everything to make sure it all works.
	And then, you know, it works fine for weeks and then all of a sudden you get this.
	Hold on a second.
	It's almost restarted.
	But what do you have to restart?
	I'm just curious.
	Okay, so I have to restart the virtual router.
	That's really somewhere the problem is...
	But how can you be on the air doing all this?
	Oh, well, I set up a fail-safe system so that at least we can be on the air when this happens.
	That's good, right?
	Yeah!
	The only thing is you can't play any clips.
	Our show has become dependent on clips.
	I think this is something we need to discuss.
	We clearly have an agenda.
	I was looking at my clip collection because I'm putting together...
	I'm going to kind of tease it in advance because it's going to take me months and months to do this.
	Please, don't threaten.
	I'm putting together a two-hour clip show.
	John, you promised this last December.
	It's taking me...
	I'm still working on it.
	It's not easy.
	These clips are very long.
	Alright, I think we can go back to Lucy.
	I think we're ready now.
	Let's have a listen.
	A bomber where you had a street vendor notice a vehicle parked with smoke coming out of it and immediately reported that to a New York City policeman and we went from that cold report to apprehending Faisal Shahzad within 53 hours.
	Of a fabulous job within 53 hours.
	Remember that whole false flag thing they set up at Times Square?
	That's what she's out touted.
	That's what she should say.
	In fact, it took us a lot longer than we planned.
	It reminds me of the kind of citizen surveillance system in East Germany.
	I love the laughing.
	What is she laughing about constantly?
	I have the feeling that they had a pre-interview.
	And because she keeps laughing and she's like...
	Well, maybe Lucy's a laugh riot in private.
	Well, Lucy's about to laugh too.
	And the whole front thing is she's like, it sounds like...
	I mean, it's so ridiculous.
	It sounds like East Germany.
	I can just see the meeting before, like, okay, listen, I think you should bring up the East German thing.
	Oh, yes, that would be very funny.
	Okay, here we go.
	There was smoke coming out of it, and immediately reported that to a New York City policeman, and we went from that cold report to apprehending Faisal Shahzad within 53 hours.
	It reminds me of the kind of citizen surveillance system in East Germany.
	I mean, essentially you're asking people to keep an eye on each other.
	I think that's a little extreme.
	What we're asking is to do what citizens in this country have been asked to do a lot of different times.
	Right on your neighbors.
	Which is to be aware, to report things that seem awry.
	Out of the ordinary, report them to appropriate security forces.
	John, you've been around in this nation longer than I have.
	Well, here it comes.
	At the same time, I mean, you're also putting that definition in the hands of everyone as well.
	I mean, the definition of what's suspicious, what's out of the ordinary.
	I mean, in a lot of communities, that can mean different things and lead to, you know, bad tips.
	Law enforcement who are trained, and we have been doing this program in pilot phases since 9-11.
	And it's worked very, very well.
	And so some of the things you're pointing out now really haven't been issues or problems.
	And what education will there be around what people should look for?
	It is the unattended package.
	Ew, John, my package.
	It's the car with smoke coming out of it.
	Oh no, there's a car with smoke coming out of it!
	...left unattended.
	That's a polluter.
	And all we're asking that be done is to report to security personnel to law enforcement.
	Let them do the follow-up.
	And lastly, I have to ask you, is there anything a little bit strange or big brother-ish in seeing your own image?
	Oh, John!
	This girl's talking through her teeth, too, if you haven't noticed.
	Uh-huh, uh-huh.
	But listen, she's like, this is the ego question.
	This is kind of strange.
	Don't you, like, love it when you see yourself and, you know, you being the big sister of all things security?
	Yeah.
	Or big brotherish in seeing your own image and hearing your own voice everywhere issuing these warnings?
	Let me stroke my white pussy for a moment!
	Brotherish in seeing your own image and hearing your own voice everywhere issuing these warnings?
	I wouldn't look at it that way, but all I would say is look.
	Look!
	I will say this.
	Look!
	Look, look, slaves!
	That way, but all I would say is look.
	This is very straightforward, easy to remember, and we rely on the common sense and judgment and the community involvement of the American people.
	All right, enough of that.
	You heard it, though.
	You heard it.
	She's evil.
	I mean, come on.
	That's not even funny anymore, the way she laughed.
	I am everywhere.
	It's about right.
	By the way, the bull crap about the Times Square bomber, if that guy had done his job right, of course, it was a false flag, so it wasn't going to happen.
	But let's say it was a real terrorist in a real situation.
	The guy had blown up that car.
	What's that got to do with anything?
	Because they caught the guy after whatever he was going to do was done was when they caught him.
	They didn't catch him beforehand.
	So what is the program?
	He was on the airplane.
	It was on the airplane!
	52 hours after what would have been a huge bomb.
	After what didn't blow up because it didn't work.
	They could do that because they had the car.
	The car was intact.
	I mean, come on.
	I get to hear the light.
	I wouldn't look at it.
	You should flip that out and just use it occasionally.
	Occasionally, it's going to be my ringtone.
	You're actually pretty close to her.
	I'm everywhere.
	Why is that girl laughing constantly?
	Because she gets to follow up.
	And lastly, I have to ask you, is there anything a little bit strange or big brother-ish in seeing your own image and hearing your own voice everywhere issuing these warnings?
	It wasn't a whoop.
	I wouldn't look at it.
	I wouldn't look at it.
	Look at me, Steve.
	I think we got enough out of that.
	Hey, why don't we thank some people who would make this fine program possible.
	Does anyone still listen?
	They're probably going to turn us in.
	Are we not pretty suspicious about these two guys?
	Probably.
	What do you mean probably?
	It's like they're dialing now.
	It's like, hey man, these two guys are laughing at Janet, Lucy, whatever.
	Oh my goodness.
	Wow, wow, wow, wow.
	So we've got one executive producer and two associate executive producers for this show.
	Nice, nice, nice.
	Our executive producer is Will Lysak from Happy Valley, Oregon.
	He had to send in his pronunciation because I don't know anyone in...
	I don't know, but his name is spelled L-I-S-A-C, which you'd think would be Lysak.
	Or Lysak.
	What is it?
	It's Lysick.
	Lysick.
	Okay.
	Well, whatever.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, it's fine with me.
	But he did have to explain.
	It seems to be unusual.
	He must be, throughout his life, must have his name mispronounced more than me.
	Yeah.
	This is our first installment of 3333 for one of our donated knighthoods.
	- Depends, we'll donate a knighthood in the name of a lucky random producer.
	Coin holder for every $1,000 rain from the sales of Gitmo Nation Challenge Coins at noagendachallengecoin.com, which is another challenge coin.
	We're going to have two or three people making these things now.
	And by the way, we are no longer...
	Actually, Eric the shill has gotten all the coins from Paul Couture that he never shipped.
	And we're going to have to make some more coins.
	Adam and I are taking out of our funds.
	We are spending the money and we have to cough up a little more for some international...
	Let me say that all said and done...
	With the money we did not receive, this thing is costing us $10,000 minimum.
	So we are now absolving ourselves.
	And you can go to Will's site, which is noagendachallengecoins.com.
	But we have nothing to do with it.
	And he's going to donate to us.
	But if Will doesn't ship coins, you have to take it up with him.
	We totally overpromoted it.
	And so we feel responsible, so we're going to take the hit.
	Yes.
	So everyone, I think, everything's been sent out.
	By the way, thank you, Eric.
	Except the foreign guys.
	The foreign guys is coming.
	Thank you very much, Eric the Shill, for all the work you've done on that.
	Luckily, Eric the Shill, by coincidence, has been in the mail order.
	Him and his wife used to do a big eBay business, and he's done that stuff, so he can do it.
	He's a mail order bride.
	He can do it.
	I mean, so it's like we're not worried about Eric.
	Well, speak for yourself.
	I mean, we'll see.
	Well, what's he going to do?
	I can go down and turn off his power.
	I mean...
	Snip!
	Eric is my stepson.
	Wait a minute.
	Did I just hear you say, you will turn off his power?
	No, I said I could.
	I mean, but Eric is reliable, so what can I say?
	He's a very reliable person.
	He actually enjoys...
	I don't want to...
	He enjoys it when you...
	I don't know if this is a compliment or not, but he actually enjoys...
	Because I think he worked in a couple of companies where he did customer service.
	He actually enjoys customer service.
	It's like, okay, nobody else in the family does.
	Let's put it that way.
	Myself included.
	I hate it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no, it's not for me either.
	Anyway, let's move on with the associates.
	John Smith from Alpharetta, Georgia, $200.
	Special thanks to Mimi and Miss Mickey for letting you guys work on Thanksgiving.
	Add a little bonus this month, $100 more for the listeners.
	While Adam and John watch C-SPAN so you don't have to, I don't give so you don't have to.
	If you are listening, be a donor, not a boner.
	That's what he's telling all the people out there.
	There's another jingle we need.
	Michael Hager in St.
	Louis, Missouri.
	$200.
	Really love the show.
	Nobody does a better job of getting the truth out.
	And those are our executive producers for today's show.
	Well, we certainly do our best.
	And I would like to mention a couple of PR initiatives.
	The Shill, Eric The Shill, amongst all of the coin shipping he's been doing, he has also totally revamped NoAgendaNation.com.
	Have you seen this thing, John?
	Yeah, it's pretty good.
	He's a map nut.
	But why do we even bother doing any site?
	I mean, this is what No Agenda show should be, it almost looks like.
	I mean, he's got the episodes there.
	He's got the donation stuff.
	I mean, it's good.
	We should be linking to it.
	Well, we're definitely going to link to it.
	Anyway...
	Yeah, go to check out No Agenda Nation.
	His long-term scheme, which he wants us to mention eventually, is to get anyone who's a big donor, the Knights especially, they can have their businesses listed along with their location and all the rest of it.
	So No Agenda, so the fan base around the world can, you know, if you happen to be in St.
	Louis, you can go to that bar or Indianapolis.
	Right, right.
	So our community is also tangible, and you can reach out.
	Yeah, so people can go and say hi to another night, for example.
	I don't think it's going to be for everybody, but I think all the nights in particular, because we have over 100, can at least say hi to each other.
	It's a good idea, and when the caca hits the fan, it may be even better.
	Print out those maps, by the way, because if we have no internet...
	You'll want to know where everybody is.
	You won't have any.
	Print out stuff once in a while.
	Print it out from time to not.
	All right.
	A shout out to Sir Larry Lee, who had his ex-radio taken off the air by the Federalists.
	Oh, yeah.
	Which sucks.
	The FCC finally cracked down.
	The FCC finally cracked down on his radio station there.
	And where was he again?
	He was in some interesting place.
	I thought it was in Texas or Wisconsin.
	I think it's Texas.
	Well, anyway, I guess he had some harmonic frequencies that transmit...
	Well, he says it's bullcrap.
	Well, no, no, no.
	He sent off an email this morning.
	Oh, he did?
	Sometime during the day on Monday the 13th, the inline harmonic frequency filters failed.
	I hate it when that happens.
	At that point, harmonic frequencies were transmitted that included the aviation spectrum.
	A pilot somewhere reported spurious transmissions to air traffic control.
	The incident was reported to the FCC. Of course, he didn't mean to do that.
	But anyway, he was operating kind of some heated up stuff anyway.
	I asked him whether he's going to try to get a low-frequency license or a low-power license, and he's going to try.
	But apparently, they haven't been issuing them as much as promised.
	Then we have a new network, the NoAgendaNewsNetwork.com, which is yet another site filled with news and with some advertising that perhaps will help the show in the future.
	We're not quite sure, but I appreciate the PR initiative.
	And then the one that I'm quite excited about is NoAgendaNovels.com as one of our...
	Welcome to my show!
	Welcome to my show!
	He says he will be sending some of that to us.
	Whether he does that or not, I think it's a funny book.
	I like the fact that we get credit on the back.
	The show gets credit.
	You read this book, it's like you're reading a No Agenda show.
	It's funny.
	Even though it's not meant to be funny, you read it and you're like, oh my god, this is great.
	So, Scott McKenzie with NoAgendaNovels.com.
	And, of course, we want to thank...
	Our producers for keeping us on the air.
	Dvorak.org.na is the only way that we can keep the program running.
	And we need a little bit of extra help now for the holidays.
	Particularly because the anonymous attacks on PayPal slowed us down.
	And we had all these extra expenditures at the end of the year.
	It's kind of like we had to put Tiny Tim had to have an operation.
	He did.
	So we would not cry.
	Our bank account is known as Tiny Tim.
	It's very descriptive.
	Will Lysick, our executive producer of episode 261, along with associate executive producers John Smith and Michael Hager.
	You can put this on your resume.
	It's a real credit.
	Unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, we'll vouch for you.
	Everybody else out there, please go out.
	Help us by propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New World Order!
	Say it with me, everybody, now.
	Shut up!
	I gotta clip that out, that Napolitano laugh.
	It's funny.
	Did you hear the...
	I played a song this morning.
	I just gotta play this, because it's very short.
	I guess it was from some TV show that...
	Well, I'll just play it for you.
	Slaves!
	Builds the pyramids.
	Slaves! Builds the Parthenon.
	Slaves! Builds America.
	Slaves!
	This is your song.
	Thank you.
	Slaves!
	Yeah, I heard that this morning.
	I like it.
	Who is it?
	Thank you.
	Thank you, slaves.
	Slaves!
	This is your song, thank you.
	It's some kind of like a TV show that doesn't exist anymore.
	It went off the air, but they did stuff like this.
	It's kind of like a Sesame Street on acid.
	Ha!
	I'll have to find out.
	I love it.
	Well, you know, it reminds me of a show that they took off the air years ago, which was done by Jim Henson when he was still alive, I think.
	What was it called?
	What?
	What was it called?
	It was called Dinosaurs.
	Oh, okay.
	And it was only on for like, I think it was on for about three seasons.
	It was on obscure stations.
	It was syndicated.
	And it was these guys in these huge dinosaur costumes, and all the material was Gitmo Nation type material.
	Yeah.
	And Jim Henson did that, huh?
	Yeah, and it's a great kid's show.
	It was designed as a kid's show, and that's where the line, I'm the baby, you gotta love me, came from, and some of these other little one-liners that float around the internet, but if anyone wants to go rent something hilarious because of its Gitmo Nation nature, you know, there's like a big brother on the TV all the time, the news guys come on, they say, this is the news that they're We're told to give you and all this kind of thing.
	It's very subversive, actually, for a show for kids.
	Yeah, the chat room's going nuts.
	They all remember it.
	They all are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was awesome.
	I think we should start with just a quick update, John, on the two to the head.
	We don't play the jingle, but we don't have to.
	Because, of course, I had a thesis on the last program about Mark Madoff, which, by the way, I ran it by a lawyer, like a huge, extremely wealthy Gitmo Nation entertainment lawyer, and he was immediately, oh yeah, right on.
	Mark Madoff, of course, he apparently committed suicide.
	And now they've secretly burned him.
	Right.
	Well, you immediately said, oh, watch for the cremation.
	And by the way, I believe that the Jewish tradition is not to burn people.
	Right, it's Jewish.
	You don't cremation.
	You don't burn.
	That's the joke of it.
	Because we got a lot of email.
	Everybody in the world wrote us and twittered us, oh, you called it, you called it, you called it.
	But, you know, the thing is, there's still some breakdown that we need to do, because I came up with a couple more thoughts on this.
	Let me give you one extra one that I forgot on the last show, is that his wife, and she was at Disneyland with their other child, she actually legally changed her name from Madoff to Morgan a year ago, which, of course, is what you need to do.
	And you've got to do it way in advance.
	I mean, this is a two-year scheme.
	Of course, of course.
	It doesn't just happen.
	And the...
	His father-in-law, which is his wife's stepfather, this guy, I mean, he is connected to so much Gitmo Nation stuff.
	I got some links in the show notes.
	You can just go take a look at it.
	He was completely complicit.
	He's a part of the deal.
	No doubt about it.
	I would assume there's a lot of people part of the deal.
	But I was thinking about a couple of things that were anomalies that also fit into this puzzle.
	One is that you have to remember that Bernie Madoff was one of the groups he invested for was the Russian mob.
	This came out early in the discussion, and they always say, oh, the Russian mob's going to kill him now.
	But we don't know that the Russian mob didn't get their money back, and we don't know that he wasn't working with the Russian mob.
	The money wasn't going partly to them, because we knew some of it was going to Israel.
	So he was involved with a mobbed-up group...
	One of the nastiest there is, with connections everywhere, and they could have been responsible for setting up the whole scheme, A, and there's also the Israeli intelligence, which he is supposedly involved with, which was also a group that could set this kind of thing up easily.
	So, I mean, it wasn't...
	It wasn't an impossibility.
	I was looking at the Yahoo story comments because sometimes in the comments, especially on today's internet, you get a lot of people who have insight or comments that are like, oh, this is a good idea.
	And there was two or three people that picked up on the, oh, he's not dead thing.
	And then one guy went on and on about how he's now having a meeting with Ken Lay.
	But anyway, he changed his name to Lee Kanner.
	I forgot he's got some information in there that may or may not be true.
	And he also says that Madoff is probably in Israel sorting out the bank accounts as we speak to the kid.
	But somebody pointed out that that funeral home where he was cremated, I looked it up and tried to find something in the background that was sketchy.
	And somebody did have something.
	Was this the same funeral home that took the dead comic and was supposed to announce a funeral for him and then they haven't done anything in four months?
	I don't know.
	I don't know anything about that.
	But I think that there's probably a connection between the funeral home and some past other weirdness, because these guys have to be reliable.
	Just go look at any mob-based movie.
	They're always in the funeral home.
	That's where they have their meetings.
	They're always in the back standing around somebody having a meeting.
	And what's so funny about this particular thing, nobody in the mainstream media, of course, ever would bring such a crazy idea up.
	No.
	And the fact that the public doesn't bring it up is actually more surprising because there are so many movies, TV plots, you know.
	I mean, you have seen this phony, I mean, the movie, the Sherlock Holmes film is one of these.
	So here's a crazy thing.
	So, at Mickey's Big Expo, which was Sunday, the art club in Los Angeles, which was a huge success, by the way, she had a lot of art buyers.
	And this one guy, I got called over by his wife.
	I had not met him.
	He's a very high-powered lawyer in Los Angeles.
	That's why he was there.
	Like, we'll sell this guy some art.
	And he says, hey, I hear you don't like the scanners.
	I'm like, uh-oh, I'm being set up here.
	He said, well, you know, I said, well, you know, so I start...
	You had the talking points memo in your head, I hope.
	I had the talking points, right?
	And I lay in about dosimeters.
	He says, well, you know, I can actually, I think I can probably prove to you that these are safe.
	I'm like, wow, this is going the wrong direction.
	And I said, um, really?
	He says, yeah, because I represent RapaScan.
	Actually, I represented them in a $129 million lawsuit against L3 Communications.
	And so now I'm like, oh really?
	That's quite interesting.
	Why don't you tell me?
	You okay?
	I sound like you fell over.
	No, the thing fell off the shelf.
	And so apparently, remember I tracked down those patents?
	So together they bought that company that had the patent for Backscatter.
	And they had divided up the market.
	But then L3 decided to just ignore the agreement they had.
	And so then Rapscan sued them for $129 million and won.
	And I'm like, wow, this is pretty interesting.
	And I said, well, you know, and then I started in the Michael Chertoff thing, and he said, yeah, you know who the CEO is?
	I said, yeah, I know he's the guy, Deepak Chopra, but not the Deepak Chopra, the healing guy, but he's the guy that went to India with Obama, and so now I've got some credibility.
	Now I've got to get the guy out of whatever he's talking about, because I've got to sell him some art.
	I don't want to argue about these scanners, if they're good or not.
	And then I said, hey, let me tell you something else, man.
	That Mark Madoff, he didn't commit no suicide.
	He's sitting there laughing in Paraguay right now.
	And the guy looks at me straight in the face and says, you're absolutely right.
	I'm like, wow.
	He said, you're absolutely right.
	I'm like, okay.
	So these guys know.
	That stepfather, by the way, his father-in-law, London is his name, he represented Spiro Agnew when he faced criminal charges.
	Wow.
	That's a good one.
	Attorney for Jackie Onassis when she had to restrain that crazy photographer.
	The guy's been around.
	He's been around, he's been around, he's been around.
	Anyway, so yeah, it's...
	No one does that kind of analysis.
	You're absolutely right.
	No one does it.
	And it doesn't really matter other than that I look at some of the comments and I'm like, oh, it's so sad.
	So sad for him and for his family.
	They're laughing at you.
	They're laughing at you in Paraguay.
	And she's probably already down there now.
	Oh, watch for this.
	I want to be left alone and I need to go on a vacation in South America with my children and just we have to collect our thoughts.
	They're going to collect the cash is what they're going to do.
	Collect our thoughts.
	That's the way the idea that he's in Israel right now sorting out the bank account so he can tap some of that money over to Paraguay.
	And it's billions.
	It will be.
	Paraguay is the target for these guys.
	Yeah, that's where Bush has the ranch and everything.
	Yeah.
	Because there's a big aquifer.
	So they're messing with our stream today, John.
	I mean, I'm not even telling you about it.
	I mean, there's nothing I can do with it.
	I'm not coming through?
	No, no, no.
	We're fine, and the recording is fine, but they're messing with our stream.
	Everyone has problems with the stream.
	I've restarted the server four times.
	Oh, the stream.
	Yeah.
	I've restarted the server five times.
	It's, yeah.
	Obviously, we're getting good.
	And there's a lot of stuff that's happening with the Internet in general, which is very, very interesting.
	Now I'm really getting some inside dirt from people.
	Well, this internet's got to be stopped.
	Well, it has to be stopped, but this is happening at a DNS, but also at a BGP level.
	I got a note from, well, Anonymous, obviously, although I know who my sources are, that Level 3, Level 3 is, they are probably the largest tier one backbone provider in Certainly in the United States, but they do a lot in Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe, that they have been broadcasting some false routes to network segments that at least...
	But who knows?
	And when you're doing border gateway protocol, I know a little bit about it.
	You know, stuff is copied and propagated.
	And if you actually want to change a route, you have to go in, you have to do it manually.
	And it's very hard to track down, and a lot of tracing has to happen.
	But Level 3, which, by the way, is headquartered in Colorado, that'll give you any idea.
	I don't trust these guys.
	And I think that what we're seeing is...
	What's the thing with Level 3?
	Who is suing them?
	Comcast?
	No, that was Comcast and Netflix.
	That's different.
	But Level 3 was in the middle of that because they passed off the transit.
	Level 3 was what did the deal with Netflix.
	Right.
	And then they sued Comcast for...
	But that's about peering.
	But this is actual announcing faulty routes so that you can't get to a site.
	Or you can get to it, but then it really slows it down because you get routed around stuff.
	I mean, BGP is amazing stuff, and that's what the true network engineers really understand, that they're geniuses.
	Well, there's a...
	Another thing going...
	Well, go ahead.
	Well, so I was just saying that, you know, there's a lot of different things happening.
	I also got information on the inside from PayPal.
	Because, you know, obviously we were hurt by the so-called DDoS attacks.
	So what happened is the distributed denial of service attacks did not necessarily slow down PayPal servers.
	But what PayPal did is they started denying access from network segments that were doing that.
	So they were literally shutting off entire network segments so people couldn't even get to us even if they wanted to.
	Because PayPal just turned it off, just denied the entire network segment.
	So if you had someone who was part of an attack, and by the way, I have a hard time believing that it's a group of anonymous people.
	I think it's bot networks that are set up by Russians.
	There's a whole bunch of shit going on we don't know about.
	It's too easy to say, oh yeah, it's these 4chan people.
	Nah.
	Yeah, 4chan has its power, but there's something else going on here.
	So what happens is, you get someone in a network segment like Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles, and they start throwing packets at PayPal, and PayPal says, well, shit, we'll just turn that whole network segment off and we'll deal with it later.
	But that means someone in that network segment could not reach us, could not reach PayPal to support the show.
	So, there's a lot of stuff going on, and it's all at the router level, and this is where I make my plea to the sysadmins of the world, do what you have to, but make sure you route us through.
	Whatever you do, help us.
	Because you are the only ones, and the last men standing are the network admins and the sysadmins.
	You're my only hope.
	It's bad.
	It's really, really bad.
	And now, it's crazy.
	Now we've got all these new leaking sites coming out.
	We've got Indoleaks.
	Yeah, this looks like a smoke screen approach.
	Oh, yeah.
	Brussels leaks, Balkan leaks, Open leaks.
	The idea is you overwhelm us with leak sites, so they're all marginalized.
	So I did something, and this is really the only real big thing I did.
	It's what we do, so you don't have to.
	C-SPAN.
	So there was a forum on C-SPAN, and I watched the entire thing and pulled a couple of clips.
	Have you ever heard of the Schieffer School of Journalism, John?
	Is that something Bob Schieffer set up at some college?
	Yeah, Bob Schieffer has the Schieffer School of Journalism.
	By the way, this is a big trend nowadays.
	There's a new thing opening up.
	I'd love to get a position in one of the colleges or universities with this title, which is a professor of practice.
	Ooh, that's like entrepreneur in residence.
	Professor of practice are these guys who actually did something for a living, and now they're teaching about it or coordinating a department.
	And they get paid for it.
	Yeah, you get paid for it, and you get health insurance.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And these are cropping up everywhere because the university system is turning very mercantile.
	So Bob, we're going to see a lot of this.
	We're going to see the Geraldo Rivera Department of Journalism at the University of South Texas.
	Oh yeah, well this is actually TCU. There you go, Texas Christian.
	Texas Christian University.
	So you have the Bob Schieffer School of Journalism.
	And Bob on this forum has a woman from the New York Times, Karen DeYoung from the Washington Post.
	He has Scott Shane from the New York Times, which is just amazing.
	And they're talking about WikiLeaks.
	And also some guy from the government who I guess he was like the token guy from the government had to be in there.
	And so I'm watching this and the whole thing is about WikiLeaks.
	Is it journalism?
	But really what happens is Scott Shane from the New York Times starts explaining how it works.
	And I'll just say it up front.
	WikiLeaks is not leaking documents to the public on the internet.
	They're just not.
	And these people will confirm what I'm saying here.
	They have an entire system, agreements with the New York Times, with The Guardian, Le Monde, Le Pays, Das Bild.
	That is Der Spiegel, isn't it?
	I'm sorry, Der Spiegel.
	You're right.
	They have all these agreements.
	They were preset.
	They have release schedules.
	WikiLeaks is mainstream media.
	It is a mainstream media organization and you will hear these people actually say they don't even leak 2% of the documents to the public.
	And by the way...
	They have the ability to do public relations better than most mainstream media outlets.
	Yes.
	Here's Scott Shea.
	So here you are at the New York Times, and this stuff comes to you.
	What happened after that?
	How did you make a decision, the editors at the Times, to accept it?
	And what did you do with it after you got it?
	What happened between that time and when we first began to see a show off in the New York Times?
	Okay, so now he's...
	So this is Bob Sheever of CBS News.
	And so they got the documents before WikiLeaks put them on the internet.
	They gave them to the New York Times with some caveats.
	We'll get to that in a minute.
	Well, as you recall, there were three sort of batches of documents that the Times got.
	From WikiLeaks, the first two directly, the third because the founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, apparently had taken offense at a profile that we've published of him.
	He didn't want to give us the third group of documents, which were the State Department cables.
	I found that very interesting.
	That Julian Assange is going, you're not getting that, New York Times, because you wrote something nasty about me.
	You're not getting that.
	That's old-fashioned, isn't it?
	Well, listen to this.
	So what did he do with the Washington Post?
	They didn't get any documents from WikiLeaks.
	Well, let me go now to Karen.
	Now, the Post did not get any of these.
	Let me just ask you, why?
	And listen to the room laugh, by the way.
	This is a room full of shills and journalists.
	And why didn't you get it?
	What's wrong with you?
	Why didn't you get it?
	They were giving it to everybody.
	Why didn't you get it?
	Yeah.
	And what would you have done if you had gotten something?
	Like the Times were told with the early releases, you know, there was the release of Afghanistan documents and Iraq documents, military documents earlier.
	And we were told by WikiLeaks that we had published something about Julian Assange that they didn't feel was to their liking.
	And we were told specifically that they were not going to deal with us.
	Well, now, what is that about?
	Out.
	What is wrong with this guy?
	Does he really want to get the word out, or is he more concerned about his image?
	Well, this is old-fashioned.
	Like I said, this is the way it always used to be, which indicates your thesis that it's mainstream media in a different, you know, packaging.
	Yes.
	You know, old wine, same, new label, old wine, whatever that old saying is, I can't remember.
	But anyway...
	Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss.
	Yeah, this is like bogus that he would...
	I mean, he shouldn't have any...
	I mean, you either leak it or you don't.
	You don't, you know, say, well, you get it, you don't.
	You get it.
	I mean, playing favorites, you know, and all this sort of thing seems to be against what you were talking about.
	I mean, what we're envisioning as the WikiLeaks model seems to be violating it with this kind of thing.
	But if it's all bogus...
	It is totally bogus because what they're doing is...
	And by the way, just on Assange's side, if they are arresting Julian Assange, they need to pick these guys up right away.
	Because he's just taking stolen documents and giving them to the New York Times before he's putting anything online.
	And the New York Times actually does the redacting with the State Department, with the Pentagon, and sends the documents back to WikiLeaks for them to then release online.
	I think we have discussed this process on this show from the beginning.
	But this is...
	But this is now, they're saying it.
	This is coming straight from the horse's mouth.
	They were always saying it.
	If you went out and pieced it together, you could add two and two.
	You knew this was going on.
	Was this a shock to you?
	Well, here it is in a very simplified form.
	Simplified, yes.
	We've not done that here, but one is a flawed government employee who acted independently.
	So this is the government guy saying, well, you know, this is a flawed employee, that never should have happened.
	Violation of his pledge.
	And a government that engineered very poorly a security system.
	That's the first.
	Second are these cyber anarchists.
	That do not have a rationale other than just a capacity to create chaos.
	And then we have the story of responsible journalists struggling with information bridging across the two.
	To me, it's why I'm so worried about the collapse of professional journalism.
	Go!
	No!
	The collapse of professional journalism.
	What he's really saying, I'm so worried that our shills, our government spokesholes, all the rest, the whole system that we had put in place that keeps this crap from happening so we could abuse the citizenry and tax them and screw with them is now falling apart.
	What are we going to do?
	But it's actually not true because they are completely playing together under the same hat.
	Because we've had the discipline of editorial observation...
	Ooh!
	Ooh!
	Did he say restriction?
	And did he correct himself?
	Play it again.
	We've had the discipline of editorial...
	I mean...
	Hold on, let me roll it back a little bit more.
	Here we go.
	Because we've had the discipline of editorial observation...
	Whoa!
	Whoa!
	Editorial restriction?
	So he's a State Department guy?
	Oh, yeah.
	Editorial restraint.
	How long do you think we're going to stay on the air revealing these horrible facts?
	People, help us out so we can at least stay on the air a little bit.
	So we get some money out of this thing.
	Hey, you're not following the guidelines.
	...journalism.
	Because we've had the discipline of editorial observation that has given us a sense of what is and is not news.
	What is and is not news?
	Oh my God, this is even better!
	We have restriction, observation, what is and is not news by our spokesholes.
	By the way, that's why for some reason that story in Long Beach where the guy was gunned down in his own backyard, in his own property by the cops.
	Because of this, you know, say something, see something, say something thing.
	It was not reported anywhere except in a couple local papers.
	No, that's not part of the deal.
	It's not on the list.
	It's not news.
	You know, there's a lot of guys, Rush Limbaugh talked about this, but a lot of people that worked in mainstream radio talk about this, because most of this is usually a clip job when they do the news.
	They don't really have much of a news staff.
	But both radio and television and to a large extent most of the newspapers, the cues all come from the New York Times.
	They're the official conduit for what is news and what's not.
	Totally.
	And so you take and you look at the New York Times, is it in the New York Times?
	No.
	We were reporting, oh no, if it's not in the New York Times, we can't go with it.
	It's a very common thing that was heard, or is heard, still heard, around various newsrooms.
	It's like the New York Times calls the shots.
	Well, let's just continue for a little bit, and I'll get off of it.
	It's important that people hear this from someone other than you and I....putting out for the world to see, and what responsible journalists are struggling...
	Responsible journalists.
	...to manage.
	We may not like it.
	I frankly...
	Don't like anything about this.
	But I respect the fact that you've wrestled with it, and you did a very responsible job within the boundaries of how you saw your duties.
	This is the State Department guy complimenting the New York Times and the Washington Post, complimenting them on doing such a responsible job.
	I really do respect that.
	We're going to deeply regret losing that as being the foundation of journalism.
	No kidding.
	And that's what's in front of us is a world of these cyber anarchists.
	What is ground truth in cyberspace?
	And that's a problem.
	What was that like?
	What is ground truth, as in ground zero, ground truth in cyberspace?
	Ground truth?
	Ground truth is what he said.
	Wow.
	In cyberspace.
	Yeah, that's a meme.
	Could be a meme.
	Could be a launch here.
	Let's continue.
	One of the most interesting things to me in this whole episode...
	This is the New York Times guy, Scott Shane.
	...and something that's sometimes gotten lost in the reporting.
	You often heard on the radio or TV, WikiLeaks, the organization that released 250,000 secret diplomatic cables.
	In a limited sense, that's true.
	They released them, actually, initially to a number of European publications.
	I just want you all to understand what's going on.
	Okay?
	The media is making it look like WikiLeaks are these tremendously great guys.
	But it's all just mainstream media.
	And the best way to get false information into people's heads is to say it was leaked.
	This is like the oldest tactic in the world.
	As far as we know, they got these.
	I don't have any inside knowledge, but it appears they got them in May or June.
	If they were really living up to the cyber-anarchist creed that everything should be public all the time, they could have, in an instant, dumped 250,000 unredacted cables online.
	Which is the way it was kind of presented to us, John, wasn't it?
	I mean, this is, oh, you've got to get the torrent, you know, this, all these cables, 250,000 things.
	But then once we deconstructed the fact that these were redacted and they were only being dribbled out, it seems as though the general public still thinks that that's what's happened.
	Nobody's ever...
	I mean, I get the biggest kick out of people, well, this is terrible.
	Meanwhile...
	Really, it's terrible.
	These pundits, the Newt Gingrichs of the world.
	And you could say, did you download the 250,000 documents yourself?
	Do you know that they exist?
	They don't.
	They just come out with, oh, this is terrible.
	The New York Times, I'm not going to play that clip, actually had enough time between when they received, they received all the documents, they set up a whole database, Yeah?
	They set up a whole database of all the documents, and then they started searching the database, doing, like, you know, searches for Afghanistan and, you know, et cetera.
	Hillary, exactly.
	And so they've had this for months!
	And WikiLeaks is not revolutionary.
	They're not...
	Woo!
	And it would have been, you know, much more of a title wave...
	And this guy's actually, like, proud of it.
	He's like, yeah!
	And by the way, people on the chat...
	We have a very good streaming provider.
	We're being messed with, okay?
	The net splits in the IRC channel, you're being messed with, okay?
	Stop with the, you know, we pay a lot of money for the stream.
	It's your money.
	We're getting messed with.
	End of.
	Whether people would have really been able to make their way through it, who knows.
	But either because they felt burned over the Afghanistan documents, where they took a lot of heat for failing to redact out some names of Afghan informants who were presumably put in danger, They retreated.
	With the Iraq document dump, they actually ended up redacting with computers and stripping names out of them.
	And the documents they put up were more severely redacted than the ones we put up.
	Blown away.
	Blown away.
	Now, the New York Times received the documents.
	They are actually the...
	They determine what gets leaked on the internet.
	And Bob Shriver asks if there are any documents they didn't put out there.
	Even government officials or military officials whose lives might be...
	Who's lives or, you know, probably in most cases perhaps their freedom or their careers or something would be in jeopardy.
	You know, in Russia, in China, in Libya, in any number of other places, if you spoke sort of out of school to American diplomats, you could get in a heap of trouble.
	Did you withhold any documents at the request of the State Department?
	No.
	We withheld a couple of documents that news-wise, they were certainly interesting, we would have published.
	We didn't post them at all because there was a strong case that they would damage, in the case of one that I'm thinking of, a sensitive intelligence cooperation program involving another country.
	What?!
	The New York Times has something newsworthy they're withholding because the State Department asked them to, and WikiLeaks did not put the document online because the New York Times said they shouldn't?
	What is this?
	That's it.
	You just summarized the whole issue.
	What is this, Scott Shane?
	Is he a Soviet spy?
	And one other small point is, and this is a fairly extreme example, obviously, but I spent a few years living in the Soviet Union.
	Oh, okay.
	I just wanted to make sure.
	Of course.
	Listen to this guy.
	And they used to have an agency called Glovelit, which was essentially the official censorship agency.
	And they had a big, thick book.
	Of everything that was banned.
	The guy is a Russian spy!
	He learned in the Soviet Union where he lived and worked for the Ministry of Truth.
	Alright, I'll wind it up with one final clip.
	Wait, what did he say about this big giant book?
	Finish it.
	Screw the book!
	Come on, I want to hear the rest of that clip.
	Really?
	Oh, that's kind of cool.
	Yeah, they had this big giant book.
	Okay.
	Thick book.
	Of everything that was banned.
	And government had sort of the upper hand in that society, so the fisheries ministry put in there that dumping fish into the ocean waste was a state secret, and pretty much everything got to be a state secret after a while.
	So when you ask, should the bureaucrat That's enough.
	We've heard enough.
	He's basically saying that you can forget about getting any kind of real information from today's media.
	But how long has that been going on?
	So wait a minute.
	So here's the final clip, and then I'm done with this, and then I think I've made my point.
	So the final question, which is a good one from the audience, is...
	Hey, did anyone, you know, did anyone, like, pay WikiLeaks for this information?
	Any of these pre-approved, uh, oh, we like you enough to give you some of the information, but don't write nasty about Julian Assange, otherwise we won't give you any more information.
	Did anyone pay for that?
	Three related questions.
	One, did any of the publications pay WikiLeaks?
	Now listen to the fumble.
	For any of the material.
	Secondly...
	Let's just answer.
	Is that true?
	Well, to my knowledge, the answer's no.
	To my knowledge, the answer's no.
	To my knowledge...
	I don't think any of the ones we've been dealing with have...
	I don't think...
	Hey, there was...
	The Wall Street Journal, I believe, reported that they were once offered a deal where if they broke an embargo on the documents, they would have to pay WikiLeaks $100,000, and they refused to enter into it.
	It wasn't exactly an upfront payment, but it was some kind of scheme where they'd pay if they published the documents before a particular date.
	But that was never, I don't think, part of our deal...
	I don't think it was part of our deal.
	Well, you had a deal.
	He never said no, part of our deal.
	Part of our deal.
	Well, there was a deal.
	Yeah, of course there was a deal, because of no follow-up douchebag.
	I think part of our deal, and so we've never entered into any kind of, you know, monetary agreement with WikiLeaks.
	Right, all right.
	So, there you have it.
	So, to summarize, my friends, and this goes for everybody who's interested in this, WikiLeaks is...
	Gives information to the mainstream media.
	The mainstream media goes to the government and says, hey, how about this one?
	No, not that one.
	How about this one?
	Cross off those names.
	Okay.
	Then they publish it.
	You have to admit it's kind of amusing that they said when Hillary came up, yeah, yeah, you can go with that.
	Yeah, of course.
	Well, Hillary, go ahead.
	Now, I will say one thing about redacting.
	Redacting is actually worse than not redacting.
	Because it tells the person who was redacted, play along, slave, or we're going to reveal your name.
	It's much worse than redacting.
	It really is.
	No, it's much worse than non-redacting.
	Non-redactivity, I'm sorry.
	It's a form of blackmail over all of these people.
	The whole thing may be a blackmail scheme for all you know.
	Totally.
	But whatever it is, it's not the heroes of WikiLeaks coming out and going, yay, look what we're doing!
	Because they're just not.
	They're not dumping big documents.
	They're not.
	They're just not doing it.
	They're not.
	And of course, give it to the Guardian, because they know they're going to play it up.
	Of course.
	The Guardian, they take everything so seriously.
	Well, they're very important.
	Very important.
	Oh, look at this.
	Look at that.
	We are so incredibly important, I tell you.
	That's who we are.
	We are the Guardian.
	And remember the slaves?
	You tell everybody.
	Listen to me, Hatcher.
	You gotta tell them.
	Silent Breed is people!
	Did you finally watch the movie?
	Yeah, yeah.
	A million people sent me the links.
	Of course I watched it.
	It was great.
	It was great.
	It's one of the best movies ever.
	It's great.
	Silent Red and Silent Blue and Silent Green.
	Yes.
	And Southern Green is so delicious.
	So we have to get into our donation segment, but I want to kick it off with something that was brought to our attention.
	I don't know if you actually really keyed into it, John, about Jimmy Wales.
	He needs a shave.
	That's all I know.
	Well, so Jimmy Wales is, although they've spread it out a little bit, he's out there going like, I need some money for Wikipedia.
	Donate.
	We have no agenda.
	Give us some money.
	Well, they have an agenda.
	Well, of course they have an agenda.
	But I would like to bring your attention to Jimmy Wales, who is featured in an entire advertising campaign for Swiss watches, Maurice Lacroix.
	And it's okay if it's Jimmy Wales, but he's using Wikipedia in his pitch.
	And so you'll see, some people call it impossible, Jimmy Wales called it Wikipedia.
	So Wikipedia is being used for commercial gain for Jimmy Wales.
	The guy can stand around and say, look, I'm a fantastic guy.
	I'm awesome.
	Go buy this watch.
	You can do that.
	But when you are in the middle of a pitch for Wikipedia for people to donate money and you're using the name Wikipedia in the SwissWatch commercial, I think that's wrong.
	What do you think, John?
	I don't really care.
	Well, but let me play the commercial.
	This is really cool.
	Here it is, Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales.
	This is the Maurice Lacroix commercial.
	Hi, I'm Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia and ambassador for Maurice Lacroix.
	He's an ambassador!
	He's an ambassador for Maurice Lacroix!
	I'm founder of Wikipedia and I'm ambassador.
	Authenticity to me means just being who you are.
	Yeah, it's like a money-grubbing whore.
	You know, very simply, you know, follow your convictions.
	And now it's like the photo shoot, and he's looking cool, and it's awesome.
	...in the people that appear in the advertising, because they've got to be people that have a depth to their personality.
	They've got to have substance.
	Say, for example, someone like Jimmy Wales, he's always stuck with his convictions, and he is the man who he is today, because he's done that.
	He's amazing, I tell you.
	Jimmy Wales is fantastic, and therefore you must buy this watch.
	Now, who else in the money-begging community do you think is also featured in these fine commercials?
	Bono.
	Close, close, close, close.
	Very close.
	I'll give you...
	Here he comes, ladies and gentlemen.
	Stand by.
	Who could it be?
	Who could it be?
	You know, I'm interested in whatever I become involved in.
	Like, that's the truth, but...
	And, you know, they showed me the watches which I thought were beautiful and cool, you know.
	There you go.
	Sir Bob Geldof.
	Of course!
	Who's Bob Geldof?
	Sorry?
	I don't know who this guy is.
	You don't know Bob Geldof?
	No, I don't know Bob Geldof.
	Bob Geldof is the guy always sitting next to Bono at USA for Africa.
	Oh, that guy?
	Yeah, that guy.
	Why didn't they get Bono?
	Bono doesn't need the money.
	Bob and Jimmy need the money.
	Let me guess.
	It's unbelievable.
	Well, I got close, didn't I, when I hit the Bono guess?
	That's why I said you were amazingly close.
	Yeah.
	The Jimmy Wales...
	You know what?
	Hey, if I could get the Maurice Lacroix gig, I'd take it.
	Well, then what are you complaining about?
	I'm not getting it.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I'm not getting it either, so let's thank some listeners.
	Let's thank some people who are helping us with our own Swiss watch commercial.
	So, what we'll do is, I will give you the time, 10.24 a.m.
	So, we've got a new listener, our new donor, $100 from London, UK, Pavel Abdolkin.
	Might be Pavel, don't you think?
	I knew a guy in the year named Pavel, and he called himself Pavel.
	Well, I knew a girl named Pavel.
	Well, I don't know if this is a guy or a girl.
	He's a PhD student, whatever the case, in Gitmo Nation East.
	Been a douchebag for about 20 episodes now, but could no longer resist starting my knighthood layaway after you called the Queen of England evil.
	The following is long and potentially useless.
	Don't read out loud unless you feel it's of any use.
	If you ask me, the U.K. government realized a long time ago that it does not have to spend the taxpayers' money on educating the young slaves, the benefits of the society, sure.
	But in the long run, no.
	In the short run, all the research can be done by foreigners.
	And Pavel is a Russian writer.
	We got a jingoist here, but that's okay.
	He's a good guy.
	I can't give you the exact ratios across the country.
	Not now, but at Cambridge and Oxford, there's at least three foreign PhD students for one Englishman.
	By the way, University of California is the same way.
	Most people are from China, per se.
	Oh, yeah.
	Anyway, it goes on and on.
	Well, yeah, you don't want to...
	People start to rebel.
	That's a problem.
	Did you see the riots in Rome?
	Yeah.
	It's about time.
	Well, yeah.
	It was unbelievable that Berlusconi got a vote of no confidence.
	He got a vote of confidence.
	They were voting on a vote of no confidence.
	Right.
	But he owns everything and everybody and is like, no, it's okay.
	We love you.
	He barely inched through and then the public rioted.
	It's like, what?
	What?
	I love it.
	Keep rioting, slaves.
	Good job.
	It's the young people who have to do this, by the way.
	We're too old.
	No, it always has been, always will be.
	It has to be.
	We're too old.
	We can't do anything.
	We have houses.
	We've got responsibilities.
	I don't have any responsibilities.
	We have a few guns, but we won't shoot them at anyone.
	No, we're not going to shoot anybody.
	And you might get shot in the backyard if you even show the damn thing.
	Listen, we have to watch C-SPAN. The young children out there have to go out and protest and burn stuff.
	Yeah, you know, just the way it always is.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Just checking.
	Luckily, they're doing something, because until the riots in London, like somebody said, I was watching another show on the BBC, said, I didn't think these kids had it in them.
	Well, it doesn't look like we have it here in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	We've been, and when we get to a segment coming up, which on Real News, I show you some of the reasons.
	But you know why it is, right?
	It's like...
	Wow, that really sucks.
	That's really interesting that your machine is falling apart like that.
	I don't understand why, though.
	Gilfroy, you're going to have to figure it out, because that's no good.
	Gilfroy in New Haven, Connecticut, 99, 98.
	My MacBook keyboard started to have issues with Macintosh.
	Then my Dell disk failed.
	Well, there's another...
	Then my Lenovo PC. Instead of paying $99.98 for a new keyboard, I decided to get some Karma.
	I can live without a shift key, but not without Karma.
	Yeah, well, I can't play you no Karma right now because the Karma bell is broken.
	Wow.
	Okay, Gil, we're going to get you Karma when we can.
	We gots no karma.
	Matthew Becker, another new donor.
	Endicott, New York.
	$75 on behalf of his brother Nick, who introduced me to the show, requesting karma.
	Another one is planning to go back to school.
	Nick needs karma because he needs to better his career.
	Just keep track of the names.
	By the time we're done with the segment, I'll have karma.
	Eric will be doing that, I hope.
	He's probably not even listening anymore.
	What's Eric going to do?
	I was hoping he'd do it so I don't have to...
	He'd do what?
	Keep track of the names.
	Just remember three names, John.
	Can you do that for a second?
	There's 40 people so far.
	No.
	Matthew Becker, another new donor.
	Endicott, New York, $75.
	Robert Pinder, Oh, by the way, Becker, that was in behalf of his brother Nick.
	Right.
	I'm sorry I'm behind you.
	You're confusing me.
	I'm trying to read off this thing.
	Robert Pinder, Madison, Virginia, 6666.
	Edward Berth...
	Beerthausen.
	Beerthausen.
	What does that mean?
	That must mean something.
	No, not really.
	But he's from Amstelfein, where I lived.
	Yeah, doesn't Beerthausen mean beer house?
	No.
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay, you two gave us double nipples on the dime.
	I'm sorry, I don't think it means beer house, no.
	That's what I would have guessed.
	No, no, no.
	It's a good guess, but no.
	Keep it up, guys.
	You two keep me sane during my daily commute.
	Loves the show, of course.
	Thank you very much.
	This is the best show on the interwebs.
	What do you expect?
	No, it is the best show on the internet.
	There's no doubt about it.
	In fact, it may be the best show being broadcast today in terms of it being both enlightening and educational.
	Timothy Nudd, or Nude, be Nudd.
	And good for you.
	It would have to be Nudd.
	Oh, brother.
	I would say nud.
	I would say, I'm talking about the name of his town, and it's in Pennsylvania.
	Now, Timothy drives a big rig.
	Does he, huh?
	Yeah, he drives an 18-wheeler.
	Why a loosing?
	Why a loosing Pennsylvania?
	It's the best I can do.
	It's 5261 in the morning.
	John and Adam really enjoy the show.
	It provides me many hours of entertainment as I drive an 18-wheeler all over the USA and Canada, but I also need a de-douching, which you're going to get later, as this is the first time I... You've been de-douched.
	Well, there you have it.
	Yep.
	Can I do the karma while we're at it?
	All right, let's go back a couple and give a couple karmas out.
	We got one for Gilfoyne.
	You've got karma.
	Right.
	And we need a Matthew Becker karma for his brother Nick.
	You've got karma.
	Okay.
	Good.
	Good job.
	Back to the 18-wheeler.
	Good job.
	He also wants to call out a douchebag.
	And who would that be?
	Well, that's a good question because I've got to refine this thing as I have to go back.
	Oh, there it is.
	I'm way down too far.
	Mike Reed.
	He was my trainer when I started driving for Maverick Transportation.
	He got me into listening to the show, but as of yet, he has not donated.
	What a dick.
	I don't have enough to give $2.61 as the episode number, so I'm donating $2.61 plus $0.50.
	As more becomes available, I'll be donating more in hopes of becoming a knight one day.
	You guys do a great job.
	Highly appreciated.
	greatest podcast.
	Anthony Benson, Ride New South Wales, 5188, Quakers Hill, New South Wales again, actually.
	Earthquake machine capital of the world.
	I figure most of the listeners would be shelling out for gifts and you guys would be short.
	So he's got that right.
	Here's a donation to see you through.
	I don't care about the political correctness.
	So Merry Christmas to you both.
	I hope no agenda gets bigger and better in 2011.
	Can Keep up the good work.
	If you consider an ultimate donation category for next year when you record an extra show for the week with a sole executive producer or a show sponsor or something like that.
	Donation site needs to match the cost of production.
	Of course, I don't think the show length should be about a half an hour based on what we're getting.
	Oh, you mean money-wise?
	Yeah, based on what we're getting, the show should be a half an hour.
	John Tirada, Pasadena, California, $50.
	Jason Dozier in Kansas City, Kansas.
	That's a $50 donation from him.
	Different from Kansas City, Missouri, by the way.
	Nigel Ewan, Columbus, Ohio, $50.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	It's my last day of first semester at Columbus College of Art and Design, so here's some money to celebrate.
	Do us an album cover while you're in Art and Design.
	Obviously, I'm a poor college student, but here's what I can afford to part with.
	Which is 50 bucks.
	Merry Christmas.
	Keep up the good work.
	Nigel Ewan.
	E-W-A-Ewan.
	You got it wrong last time, bonehead, he says to me.
	Chris Slowinski, Sherwood Park, $50.
	Tristan Baynard.
	It's B-E-S-N-A-R-D. It's got to be Benard, I think.
	Benard?
	Benard.
	French, he's in the Ile-de-France.
	Well, isn't there an S in there?
	Yeah, but it would not pronounce it.
	You would not pronounce it.
	I agree.
	I wouldn't think so.
	Maybe he can correct us.
	He had no idea the 10-10-10 coin debacle actually cost you money, so I'm doubling the cost of my coin with this donation and urge all coin buyers to do the same.
	By the way, everybody who bought a coin and got screwed, which is being rectified by Eric DeShill, stopped donating after that, by the way.
	So that's one of the reasons we don't like this kind of thing to happen.
	Feel free to forget about my coin.
	Now you're getting your coin.
	Keep the money if it's too much trouble.
	Speaking of coins, what about silver and gold?
	No agenda coins.
	It would be great.
	Yeah.
	Rolling gold.
	That would do it.
	Yay!
	Anyway, vive la France.
	Jason Burke, Richmond, Texas.
	$50.
	Anonymous poll.
	Scottsdale, Arizona.
	And actually, that's not even to be mentioned.
	So we won't even talk about it.
	So we're...
	That's it for this week's donors and producers.
	Thanks, everyone.
	And we want to thank the people who also take out a $33.33 subscription if you can.
	That's going to be the big winner.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	I'm distracted by two chicks making out in front of me.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	They're just doing it to distract me.
	Oh, they're in the house?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Look over here.
	Don't look over there.
	Thanks.
	They work for the government?
	What are they doing there?
	One of them does.
	All right, anyway.
	Get back to the show.
	Get your mind back in the game.
	I'm back here.
	I'm also rebooting servers.
	There's all kinds of stuff going on.
	We're being messed with today.
	We are being messed with.
	I think there's something else going on.
	Anyway, so I want to thank everybody who donated.
	And go to norgendashow.com.
	Dvorak.org slash NA for the donation page.
	Also, channeldvorak.com if you can't get to that, which is possible.
	Channeldvorak.com.
	Sorry, it's ChannelDevork.com slash NA and help us out for the next show.
	And don't forget, if you donate the show value, you get a member of an exclusive club that never exists again.
	This week we didn't get a 261 donation.
	Well, actually, we didn't do too well.
	The past four shows have, I'm sorry, been way down on donations.
	Yeah, we've been down about 10K in the size of the spreadsheet per show.
	Yeah.
	But it should be relaxed by now.
	I think one of our producers who said that there's people who are buying gifts for their family and we're getting short-sheeted.
	Yeah.
	Well, part of that is the PayPal issue that people just couldn't get to the site.
	That's part of it.
	It's just Tiny Tim, man.
	We've been Tiny Timmed.
	All right.
	Anyway, well, whatever.
	Appreciate it.
	Merry Christmas to y'all.
	Happy Hanukkah.
	Happy Kwanzaa.
	Enjoy it all.
	Kwanzaa.
	Kwanzaa's important, man.
	All right.
	Do we have a video to close out the donation segment?
	I don't remember.
	No, we can always do that.
	I've been talking a lot this show, so I'm going to save my stuff for when you run out of things to say.
	Well, you're going to be screwed then, because you're just going to go non-stop.
	No, I'm not going to go non-stop, but I think we should at least begin with a real news segment and a pet peevish thing.
	Okay, we can do all that.
	And now, back to real news.
	Real news, everybody.
	So let's catch up with the extra things so we at least know the basics.
	Oh, jeez, I'm sorry.
	You're not paying attention.
	Tell those girls to get into the bedroom.
	Yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	I need to meld these two together because that'll sound really hot.
	Hold on a second.
	And now, back to real movies.
	It's the same!
	Extra!
	Extra!
	Elan's new man.
	She's getting over Tiger with a hot new romance.
	So, who is he?
	Breaking news, Oprah's mid-air scare in Sydney.
	Just as we're reaching the summit, the helicopter runs out of gas.
	New Pig Sandra's weekend with baby Louie, how they're spending their first Christmas as a family.
	Nicole Richie's weekend wedding, three different dresses, the glue in the wedding cake, the elephant.
	Ah!
	New video inside Elizabeth Edwards Memorial.
	John Edwards wearing his wedding band, The Secret Kate Edwards Told Her Mother Right Before She Died.
	Our Simon exclusive in London breaking giant news about his return to American TV. Odie for Terry, an extra.
	And Gwyneth's eating marathon to gain weight for her new role.
	What did you eat or what did you get really, like, addicted to?
	Plus, extra fun with the fuckers.
	You got the tongue, Barbara.
	And she seemed startled every single time.
	What's up, everyone?
	Mario!
	So what is the deal, by the way, with this?
	You know, Oprah comes on.
	She's looking.
	Besides crying...
	Beautiful money!
	Sorry.
	What?
	She's crying on her show with the interview with Barbara Walters.
	And then on this, she says, and then the helicopter ran out of gas just before, as we reached the summit.
	So you're watching this, and she's like crying about the helicopter running out of gas when she reached the summit.
	So let's back it up and see.
	What summit?
	Okay.
	She's walking on a bridge, walking with a bunch of people to get to the top of the bridge, It's like it's a looping thing, right?
	This is in Australia.
	Yeah, in Australia.
	When you had a bunch of letters from people saying she's, you know, just wasting everyone's time down there.
	Right.
	So she said that just before they got there, there was a helicopter, I guess, taking a movie or something.
	She wasn't in the helicopter.
	What was she sobbing about?
	She's sobbing about the fact that her whole network is going to fail.
	I think the whole thing is ridiculous.
	She's out there getting attention.
	She needs attention because she's about to launch the OWN. Forget that part.
	What is all this public sobbing thing?
	We had John Boehner on 60 Minutes crying at the drop of a hat like a psycho.
	He always cries.
	Do you have a clip of him crying?
	No, I don't care.
	The guy's just in tears all the time.
	If you were a little smart, maybe you would understand that this is how people make tons of money.
	We're not doing it the right way.
	Yeah, we should be crying more.
	What am I going to do?
	People call me gay.
	So there's a new show.
	This is the reality segment.
	There's a new show.
	People should try to check this show out.
	It is the worst thing.
	There's a producer in Hollywood who's been around forever, and he does some of the most modern.
	Every time once in a while I see one of his shows, they're always little syndicated shows.
	The guy's name is Byron Allen.
	Oh, gosh.
	That guy.
	That guy.
	He's a black guy who's always wanted to be Arsenio Hall.
	He was always on Channel 9 in New York or whatever.
	He's all over the place.
	He produces stuff.
	He uses a lot of modern techniques.
	He had a talk show at one point, even.
	His own talk show.
	That's how he started.
	He wanted to be Arsenio and he never knew.
	And let's face it, even Arsenio couldn't be Arsenio.
	Exactly.
	But whatever the case is, he's always experimenting.
	So what he's done is he's created possibly the worst show in the history of television by deconstructing and then reconstructing The View.
	So he's taking the characters from the view.
	First he's got, and here's the, it's called Gossip Queens.
	And it actually includes a queen in terms of one gay guy who's ridiculously gay.
	Of course.
	And he's the queen.
	That's what we need on this show, John.
	We need one of us to be gay.
	Then it'll be, go for it.
	I can't wait for this segment, John!
	So anyway, so we got a black woman who makes all kinds of snide and dirty remarks.
	Big fat black woman.
	She's one of the characters.
	The dumb blonde who rarely says anything and she's very, you know, but she's kind of quiet.
	Wow, I can play two roles.
	She's the dumb blonde.
	I can play the dumb blonde.
	Elizabeth Hasselbeck person.
	I'll be the dumb gay blonde.
	Let me finish the deconstruction.
	Then the gay guy who's a little short Asian gay.
	We can't just be gay.
	He's got to be Asian gay.
	Oh, there it goes.
	Whose voice is a woman, so when you hear the clip, you can't really tell when it's him.
	And then some burly kind of a Rosie O'Donnell type character who's either, you know, who's I guess a pretend lesbian or something.
	And she talks with a really deep voice.
	Does she talk to her teeth like Janet?
	No, which makes me wonder, but she just talks with a deep voice.
	What is this on?
	What network?
	It's all over the place.
	It's on NBC around here.
	What?!
	This is like a real show.
	Someone put real money into this.
	It's a Byron Allen syndicated show.
	It's syndicated, I'm sure.
	So these four people are on the outside.
	You know, black woman, dumb blonde, gay guy, burly woman.
	And then in the middle, they bring the guests on.
	And all the guests do, every one of them, is bring up gossip.
	Oh, you know what?
	Should I tell you something?
	It just hit me.
	I was asked to be on the pilot of this show.
	Why?
	Because they couldn't get anyone else to do it, I guess.
	I said no, but...
	You were going to be on the pilot.
	What was your role in it?
	As a guest.
	As a guest.
	To talk about...
	Okay, well...
	Yeah.
	I'm just...
	I just hit...
	I have to find the email.
	I bet you I can find the email.
	Can I play the clip while I look for the email?
	You're going to play the clip, which is...
	Let's see.
	What's it called?
	Is it called Rumor Queen or Gossip Queen?
	It's called Gossip...
	No, it's called Gossip Queens.
	I said Rumor Queens on the clip thing.
	Gossip Queens.
	All right.
	Can we roll this?
	Not the whoever.
	There's two of them.
	Be careful.
	This is the worst show in history.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Play it.
	Joining us now from RadarOnline.com, the lovely and talented Alexis Tereszczuk.
	Well, tell us the latest with the Jersey kids.
	What are they up to?
	Oh my gosh.
	So, I have the biggest scoop about Jersey Shore.
	This summer, while they were down in Miami filming the second season, Snooki had so much to drink, she got taken to the hospital and had her stomach pumped for alcohol poisoning.
	Wow!
	That's amazing!
	Why am I listening to this again, John?
	The real news segment is leading up to something.
	I love this girl.
	They brought her out.
	She's the gossip for the segment.
	And she says, oh my gosh.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's just unbelievable.
	She just sounds like a stereotype.
	It's hilarious.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's just like pickle jars.
	An old hostess fruit pie wrapper from the third grade.
	I could go there, but I ain't gonna go there.
	Because you know what I'm thinking.
	Okay, you know.
	How much do you have to drink in order to get your stomach pumped?
	I mean, how many body shots is that?
	It's a lot, but she's only 4'9".
	A little taller than me.
	That's the Asian gay guy?
	Yeah.
	And she's about 110 pounds, so she had to have a lot to drink.
	Wait, hold on, stop it.
	She's 110 pounds, so she had to have a lot?
	What is she, 45 pounds?
	110 pounds is not needing a lot.
	You get drunk pretty quickly.
	I think she meant kilos.
	How much more?
	I knew you couldn't handle it.
	It's like, why?
	You can play with the New York Times guy until hell freezes over my cliff.
	Four airplane vodka bottles.
	For nine, she doesn't have like two cups.
	She's done.
	But this is something that everybody in the Jersey Shore is really worried about.
	She has so much to drink all the time.
	Her partying is non-stop.
	But here's the thing.
	After she went to the hospital, she had her stomach pumped.
	She went right back out the next night to do it again.
	So the whole thing, of course, the big joke is, it's so incredibly funny, is that, oh, well, did they find sperm when they pumped her stomach?
	Oh, yeah, that was the joke of the black people.
	That was the big joke.
	Well, very, very funny.
	This is the whole reason, along with some fluoridation of your water, that our young people can't actually get up off their asses and protest their government killing them.
	Yeah, this is good.
	Now, so here's the kicker.
	Here's the kicker.
	By the way, there was about seven or eight clips I could have used.
	That one we didn't finish.
	We're not going to finish.
	I've got the one.
	This is the first time I've ever seen this advertised in my life.
	This is who advertises on this show, which is pretty much like, what?
	Play?
	Yeah.
	You're a free man.
	Thanks a lot.
	Be back.
	If you've never had to arrange for a bail bond before, it can seem pretty scary, not to mention expensive.
	I had no idea what to do.
	My friend told me to call Aladdin.
	It's the best call I ever made.
	Aladdin made it simple.
	They helped me with a payment plan so I could make monthly payments and continue to pay my other bills.
	Because Aladdin worked with me, I was able to get out quickly and my commitment to make my payments.
	And it's all behind me now.
	Thanks to Aladdin.
	Aladdin Bail Bonds.
	We get you out.
	We get you through it.
	Hey, baby.
	Hey, baby.
	Listen, I was just watching the TV. And I was just watching...
	You know the show, baby.
	You know the show, baby?
	They're talking about Snooki with a sperm in their stomach.
	Hey, baby.
	I was just watching the show on the TV. And he can get you a loan to get me out, baby.
	Come on, baby.
	You can get me out, baby.
	I know you can do it, baby.
	And we can still pay all the rest of our bills, baby.
	Come on.
	I mean, people out there who listen to our show, you have to realize, and by the way, a good reason that we don't have advertisers, I don't know who it would be.
	But anyway, the point is that the advertising on television tends to be aimed at the audience as best it can be.
	So when you watch, for example, the nightly news with Brian Williams, every, I'd say, 80% of the ads that you'll see on that show are for some pill or another that has to do with being, you know...
	And typically with your penis.
	Well, there's a lot of that.
	In fact, I have a Cialis ad here right from the Brian Williams show.
	Well, why don't we play that since we're doing it anyway?
	Do you mind?
	Wait, wait.
	There's a kicker to this.
	There is a...
	This ad...
	Let's see.
	I think this is the one.
	Anyway, at the end of this ad...
	This was actually off of TBS, I believe.
	And at the end of the ad, there's a little thing.
	They segwayed into something else which makes it kind of ludicrous.
	One look can turn the everyday into romantic.
	An accidental touch can turn ordinary into something more.
	Oh, don't touch it.
	Moments can change any time, just like that.
	Accidental touch.
	It's like the TSA could do an accidental touch, and if I'm taking Cialis, I'm like...
	One look can turn the everyday...
	Just one look, John.
	This shit is so good, one look can get you a super...
	Into romantic...
	An accidental touch can turn ordinary into something more.
	Moments can change anytime, just like that.
	And when they do, men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with Cialis for Daily Use.
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	Don't drink alcohol in excess with Cialis.
	Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache, or muscle ache.
	To avoid long-term injuries, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours.
	If you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, stop taking Cialis and call your doctor right away.
	Ask your doctor if Cialis for daily use is right for you.
	For a 30-tablet free trial offer, go to Cialis.com.
	Ready, Sensei?
	What is that?
	What is it?
	The bit there?
	You cut your step on it.
	I'm sorry.
	Let me listen again.
	Here we go.
	Cialis.com.
	Ready, Sensei?
	I can't understand it.
	It was something about ready set something.
	Cialis.com.
	Ready, Sensei?
	Ready, sensei?
	Yeah.
	I have another ad.
	Can I just say one thing about the Cialis?
	Well, wait a minute.
	Let me say something first, which is, why would you be telling your doctor about your medical condition?
	Doesn't he tell you about your medical condition?
	That doesn't make sense.
	Well, how about ask your doctor if you're healthy enough to have sex?
	What?
	That's crazy.
	Ask your doctor if you're healthy enough to have sex.
	And what this is...
	What's he going to say to you?
	No.
	No, you're going to die.
	What's he going to say?
	I mean, sex is like the only thing all humans actually are supposed to do.
	That's like the only thing we're built for is to have sex.
	I'm not healthy.
	Excuse me, honey.
	I'm not healthy.
	I'm not healthy enough.
	Let me find that piece in the clip.
	That was amazing.
	It's clinically proven.
	I'm going to tell you what this is for in a minute because you've got to be ready at any time.
	The moment is right.
	Tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity.
	Excuse me, John.
	Am I healthy enough for sexual activity?
	No.
	Don't tell me, doctor!
	No, you're not!
	Don't tell me I'm not healthy enough.
	Lose some weight.
	Stop drinking.
	Stop smoking.
	So what this is, all right, is this is part of the slavery system.
	Because the way the media works, all right, if you don't look the way the magazines look and the way women are portrayed, then your man does not get a hard-on anymore.
	And that's in combination with the fluoride and all the stuff they're spraying in the air.
	You're completely zonked out.
	Look at that sound.
	So the one thing that everyone has to do, otherwise you die, is you have to have sex.
	You need sexual activity in your life.
	It's like eating, breathing, pooping.
	You need sexual activity.
	And because you're now turned off by your mates, male, female, whatever it is, because they don't have that look that is being portrayed, we have to keep our slaves healthy enough, so we'll give you this thing where...
	Drag them.
	Yeah, and then you just touch it and boing, boing, oh, it works.
	And you take it in combination with some other stuff and you're hallucinating or whatever.
	And look at the commercials!
	Because guys can't get hard anymore looking at their...
	Spouse.
	They only show men and women, but I'm sure it's the same for homosexual couples.
	Because we're portrayed in a certain way.
	It's sad.
	It's so sad.
	But even sadder is I have to ask my doctor if I'm healthy enough for sexual activity.
	I bet you better start asking.
	Alright, so we got that.
	Well, I have another drug pill that has something quite amusing at the end of it.
	That other one didn't work out.
	But this one here, you'll clearly hear.
	That one was from, I think, the Nightly News.
	This is the one from TBS. This is the ridiculous birth control pill that kills your periods.
	Seasonic.
	Seasonic!
	And at the end, they put somebody...
	I've worked in enough back...
	I've seen these guys operate.
	Somebody slipped this in on purpose.
	They have a very little clip, a little TBS promo for something, and it just says a little...
	One word is like a one-liner at the end of this ad, and then they cut to another ad.
	But there's this thing that's dropped in and it's like somebody did this on purpose.
	Who says all birth control pills have to be the same?
	Birth control pills don't have to mean 12 periods a year.
	When you're on a birth control pill, there's no medical need to have a monthly period.
	Really?
	Is that true?
	There's no need.
	No medical need.
	So what are you waiting for?
	We punctuate your life with fewer periods.
	Like other birth control pills, Seasonic is 99% effective.
	But instead of getting your period every month, you get it every three months.
	That's four periods a year.
	Oh!
	That's awesome!
	Hold on a second.
	You know, one of the things that I... I don't know this for a fact, but it seems to me that this is just another birth control pill that was developed, and when they were testing it, they said, Hey, crap.
	These women aren't having any periods.
	They're going to freak out.
	Right.
	That's like the post-it notes where it was a mistake.
	Yeah, they're going to freak out.
	The groove didn't work.
	And you have your genius in the room saying, No, they're not.
	I've got an idea.
	Let's sell that as the feature.
	Yeah.
	My doctor told me I'm more likely to have bleeding or spotting between periods.
	This can be slight to a flow like a regular period and should decrease over time.
	Like other birth control pills, prescription Seasonic has serious risks including blood clots, stroke, and heart attacks.
	Smoking increases these risks, especially if you're over 35.
	If you've ever had any of these conditions, certain cancers, or if you could be pregnant, you should not take the pill.
	The pill does not protect against HIV or STDs.
	Get all the facts at Seasonic.com.
	Get what you want from a birth control pill.
	Starting now.
	We punctuate your life with fewer periods.
	Ask your doctor for seasoning.
	Alright, so I think that...
	You stepped on the end.
	No, you can't hear anything in your stupid end clips.
	Treat your life with fewer periods.
	Ask your doctor for seasoning.
	Very funny.
	You can't...
	You didn't hear him say very funny?
	It's hard to hear.
	Well, how would you know that you didn't play it?
	Treat your life with fewer periods.
	Ask your doctor for seasoning.
	Very funny.
	Right, whatever.
	You have to understand, John, you saw it, you heard the clip, but your mind is tuned to it.
	You cut it off before you played it, before you made your value judgment.
	Yeah, I'm sick and tired of...
	I've seen this commercial for 10 years.
	You're just seeing this now?
	No, they've changed the commercial.
	Now all the women who are doing all those disclaimers have a big grin on their face.
	Okay, good point.
	They're happy.
	They're not bleeding.
	No, they got a big grin when they say you can get cancer.
	They got a big grin.
	You can get cancer.
	You can get cancer.
	Awesome.
	Let's talk about Richard Holbrook.
	I have a Richard Holbrook tribute on the clip list, but you could do yours.
	Oh, the only thing I wanted to mention is the, and I don't know if this is true, of course, but apparently his dying words were, you've got to stop this war in Afghanistan, as they wheeled him into the Pakistani...
	Oh, for shit.
	Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure he didn't say that.
	But, you know...
	Richard Holbrook, he was the guy, now he basically ran the whole Bosnia operation, but he was the guy who, Cardizic, was that the guy's name?
	The crazy guy they found, who's been on perpetual trial in The Hague?
	He was the murderer of something or other...
	No, what's his name?
	It's a different name.
	You got his name wrong.
	Kardizic.
	Kardizic.
	Something like...
	No, no, no.
	Kardizic?
	Kardizic?
	Just go on.
	It's something like Kardizic.
	I had it, but the way you come up with that name now, it's boggled my mind.
	I've lost it.
	Go ahead.
	Slobodan Milosevic.
	No, no, no, no.
	Not Slobodan Milosevic.
	It's the guy they found a couple years ago who was...
	Oh, the guy that was leading a normal life.
	Yes, hiding in plain sight as a doctor.
	Yeah.
	And he said, hey, wait a minute, Holbrook promised me complete immunity.
	He made a deal with me and he showed the papers that Holbrook made to deal with him and they'd screwed the guy anyway.
	Yeah, no, and there's a story on this clip.
	I have to say democracy now of all, which was kind of surprising because Holbrook is associated with the Democrats and Holbrook came into business during the Vietnam War, during the Democrat era.
	He did the Johnson thing.
	That's when he started getting trained.
	Then he was the Carter guy who was responsible for bombing the crap and basically a genocide in East Timor.
	Some people say it's Karadik.
	Others say it's Kardashian.
	Just keep it with Karajic.
	He's the one responsible for East Timor, which is something that we don't study in school.
	I'm still sketchy about, but it seems to be a genocide that we had something to do with.
	And then he's the guy, apparently, what he did in the Bosnian thing, according to some reports, well, he's also responsible for going to the head of North Vietnam when he was visiting New York, so they were going to try to, during the Carter administration, they were going to end the embargo, and he promised the guy, we're going to stop this, it's bad, and he told and he promised the guy, we're going to stop this, it's bad, and he told the guy to wait for a phone call, Went back to Vietnam, and that was the end of it.
	And he also apparently...
	Went to Milosevic, and there's a movie of a meeting with him, and told Milosevic, he says, look, he did an economic hitman thing, he says, you got an issue here, we have to come in, so he wants you to turn over this and that.
	I think Holbrook was the messenger of death.
	And Milosevic said, no way.
	And then Clinton started bombing the place.
	Bombing him.
	Yep.
	And that was always a mystery.
	And Holbrook was responsible.
	Anyway, you can play my clip, which has some of this in there.
	But I was amazed it was on Democracy Now!
	Because this guy is a Democrat, only associated with Democratic administrations, even though they kind of pass a little bit off.
	They could blame Bush a little bit.
	But the fact of the matter is that the progressives don't like to admit that they're worse than the Republicans.
	And this is the ode to Holbrook.
	Yeah.
	While tributes have been pouring in for Richard Holbrook, little attention has been paid to his role in implementing and backing U.S. policies that killed thousands of civilians.
	As Assistant Secretary of State in the Carter administration, Holbrook oversaw weapon shipments to the Indonesian military as it killed a third of East Timor's population.
	In 80, he played a key role in the Carter administration's support for a South Korean military crackdown in a pro-democracy uprising in the city of Gwangju that killed hundreds of people.
	Details of Holbrook's role in East Timor and Korea have been entirely ignored by the corporate media since his death, hardly covered before as well.
	Richard Holbrook was also a prominent Democratic backer of the Bush administration's decision to attack Iraq in 2003.
	The idea that Saddam posed a threat with weapons of mass destruction, Richard Holbrook.
	But during the Clinton administration, there were the most ruthless economic sanctions in history imposed by the Democrats on the government, or rather the people of Iraq, that just targeted the civilian population, denied food and medicine, turned the hospitals of Iraq,
	and John Pilger knows about this better than anyone because he did the definitive film on it, We're good to go.
	Having someone like Richard Holbrook support it is the embodiment of the continuity of U.S. foreign policy in Iraq.
	Clinton started the war on Iraq in full after George H.W. Bush invaded and attacked Iraq during the 1991 Gulf War.
	And it's been consistent U.S. policy.
	And Richard Holbrook has been a staple of that policy.
	It was a staple of that policy.
	I wanted to go back in time.
	That's good.
	You know...
	I have some deconstruction on what's happening with this.
	Some serious deconstruction.
	Because what was Holbrook really doing?
	He was doing his usual trick in Afghanistan this time around, which of course is really Pakistan.
	You and I have discussed this ad nauseum that the whole Afghanistan thing is really about Pakistan to start with.
	Now, I do want to point out that Holbrook's death, his aorta ruptured in a meeting with Hillary Clinton.
	Yeah.
	This just adds to the nefarious body count that surrounds the Clintons.
	How does your aorta actually rupture?
	You have to get your blood pressure up through the ceiling, I would assume.
	Or maybe someone just karate chops you or something?
	I mean, who knows?
	So he's having a meeting with Hillary Clinton, basically drops dead.
	I mean, they try to rescue him and they do some...
	And this happened in Pakistan, did it not?
	I don't know where it happened.
	But I understood that it happened while she was in a meeting with him.
	I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong.
	So...
	Yeah.
	Well, you look that up while I'm going to deconstruct.
	This is with some help from Eric from Portland, by the way.
	He did a pretty good job.
	So he was basically the guy running the show in Pakistan.
	So he is now out.
	And there's basically a vacuum now in the power structure in Pakistan because we have a president there known as Mr.
	Ten Percent, Zadari, who is weak, corrupt.
	I mean, the whole place, it's all completely lame.
	But now you've got, what's his name, Musharraf, who of course is military, and he was ousted.
	He's piping up going, hey, I'm taking care of everything.
	Pakistan has to be protected.
	I'm here.
	I'm on the scene.
	So with Holbrook out of the way, I think there is a benefit to him being out of the way.
	And this came out yesterday.
	China's ambassador to Pakistan will be in Pakistan from December 17th to the 19th and is expected to sign 20 agreements and memoranda of understanding.
	This, of course, is about the 100 plus Chinese energy projects that are taking place.
	And I think that whether intentional or not, it would be horrible to think that it's intentional.
	But with Holbrooke out of the way, Pakistan is now destabilized and they're trying to cut off China moving in and bringing more Middle East oil to China.
	I mean, you always have to boil it back to the oil.
	But having Holbrooke gone, I think, is a huge deal.
	I think it's a big-ass problem.
	From the sounds of his history...
	Yeah, no, she was, they were having a meeting.
	I'm just not finding where the meeting took place.
	So, it could have been in Pakistan.
	It would make sense it was in Pakistan.
	She's never home.
	And there was something, she's never home.
	You know, Bill says the same thing.
	Bitch, she's never home.
	There was something else that was really weird.
	It's funny that in this report from Pakistan, Senator Hillary Clinton confirmed the death of Richard Holm.
	What is she doing confirming it?
	Well, she's an official.
	Well, she's his boss, I guess, in some way.
	I don't know where I put this link, but...
	There was, in Pakistan, and this was in the, oh man, I can't believe I can't find this.
	I'm going to see if I can find it while you're doing your next thing here.
	Why don't you play, you can play the, I have this other clip on Holbrook where you're looking, the Holbrook in East Timor.
	East Timor?
	Okay, I'll play that.
	Yeah, that's good, yeah.
	You were the Assistant Secretary of State in the Carter administration at the height of the genocide in Timor.
	This is a question and answer with Holbrooke.
	This is obviously not done yesterday.
	No, this was done in 97.
	This is a question and answer at one of the universities by some investigative reporter grilling Holbrooke out of the blue.
	He didn't expect this guy to be there.
	77, 78, 79.
	When the killing rose to a peak...
	And you were the Carter administration's point man on Timor policy.
	You handled the testimony before Congress and so on.
	And it was under your watch that the U.S. sent in the OV-10 Bronco planes, the low-flying planes, which were used to bomb and strafe the Timorese out of the hills.
	Testimony from Catholic Church sources, reports from Amnesty International and others, indicated that hundreds of thousands of East Timorese were killed during this period.
	And during this period, not only was the U.S. sending in these weapons, which were used to kill the Temerese, but it was also blocking the U.N. Security Council from taking enforcement action on the two resolutions, which called on Indonesia to withdraw its troops without delay.
	We know this because Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., wrote about it in his memoirs.
	That was the policy that started under Ford and Kissinger.
	Okay, and you continued that policy.
	So I have two questions.
	The first is...
	Would you be willing to facilitate the full declassification of documents regarding what the Carter administration, your administration, did in East Timor by granting away...
	Now, I want to mention something here.
	He goes on and on about how the Carter administration keeps coming up in the mix as a bunch of basic genocidal maniacs because of Holbrook.
	And as I was listening to all these tributes and the rest of it and the Carter administration thing kept coming up, I began to think to myself...
	Why is Jimmy Carter out there pounding nails and building houses and doing all these things that seem to be based on some guilt-ridden conscience that he may well be exhibiting?
	I mean, he's the only president ever that has been, that is like, obviously, you know, he's got something wrong with him.
	I mean, not that people shouldn't be out there helping people build houses, but a former president doing this is almost bizarre.
	I think he's got a guilty conscience.
	I think this East Timor thing, we have to look into it a little more.
	We've seen that everyone's dropped the ball on it.
	Okay, you do that, and then I'll look into the following story.
	This is from the Daily Telegraph in Gitmo Nation East.
	Members of Ms.
	Bhutto's Pakistan's People Party, remember she was assassinated, She was on track to become the Presidente of Pakistan.
	I love this.
	They are saying that she was not killed by an assassin's bullet.
	Remember she had her head out of the moonroof of the car and she was waving to everybody?
	And then a bomb exploded and they said, well, because of the compression of the bomb, her head snapped against the sunroof and she died.
	Remember that?
	No, but go on.
	Okay, well now they're saying she was not killed by an assassin's bullet, nor by the compression from the explosion.
	That was all cover.
	She was actually killed by sophisticated laser beam technology.
	Why?
	You got a gunman, you got a bomber, you got all this stuff.
	Why do you need to go to some crazy, outrageous way?
	You know, it's not that hard to kill somebody when you're bombing them.
	This sounds like bullcrap.
	Well, this is the Interior Minister Hamid Nawaz who was saying this.
	And he says, look, it's just the facts.
	Nothing more, nothing less.
	I'm just like, that's pretty cool.
	I mean, it's not cool that she got killed, but, you know, it's like laser beam technology?
	Yeah.
	I'm liking that.
	That's awesome.
	Sounds like he's...
	I don't know what the point of that is.
	Well, anyway, there's a lot of...
	Maybe it's to scare people thinking there's some sort of a ray beam gun.
	If you don't shut up, you'll get you too.
	But regardless, wherever Holbrook went, bad stuff happened later.
	He was the head of the Jackals.
	Yeah, yeah, completely.
	It was pretty obvious.
	And why is, you know, he's being, you know, oh, poor guy, we lost one of our own.
	Oh, yeah, well, of course.
	Now what are you going to do?
	I think he took one for the team, quite honestly.
	He was going off script or something, and they had to...
	Well, maybe he did have something.
	Maybe he was to turn down the Afghani thing and say, look, this is crap.
	And what was interesting the other day was, I think it was either yesterday or the day before, I was watching CBS News with Katie Couric.
	And so I could get some...
	The only reason you watch these shows again is to get clips for, you know, drugs.
	To actually go and buy some.
	They had this really weird piece of propaganda on where they had four soldiers from Afghanistan.
	All of them lost their legs.
	They're just four legless guys and two marines, two troops and two officers, a lieutenant and a major, I think.
	And they were going on and on about how it was worth it to lose our legs.
	It was so important that we're there.
	And it would be all for nothing if we left prematurely.
	We have to stay there until the job is done.
	How disgusting is that?
	It was four of them.
	And they were all in total agreement.
	Oh, man.
	It was like, what a piece of...
	This is ridiculous.
	That's really, really, really horrible to do that.
	It was actually kind of...
	So, speaking of economic hitman, update on Haiti.
	So, the AFP, Agent France Place, there's a couple of, actually there's also an AP report, where they're looking at, they've reviewed some of the money that went to Haiti.
	Now remember, you know who was in charge of all this?
	Bill Clinton, he's the UN envoy.
	Remember we had all those celebrities, and we did that big fundraising, and we all were going to help the poor people of Haiti, and they're all still in the...
	They're all still in the tented areas, as Bill Clinton calls it, the tented areas.
	1.3 million people.
	They're puking their guts out from cholera.
	They have nothing.
	They've been screwed.
	Brought in by the UN. Brought in by the UN. So the AP Associated Press, and I'm not quite sure how they got this one out, Focused on contracts from the U.S. government which spent an immediate $1.1 billion in U.S. humanitarian assistance after the earthquake and promised another $1.15 billion for reconstruction.
	In November, the first $120 million of the pledged reconstruction funds were transferred to the World Bank.
	And the whole point of the article is that for every $100 that was spent on aid to Haiti, $1.60 was given to a Haitian company.
	See, this is how the economic hitmen work.
	They say, okay, Haiti, we're going to hook the brother up.
	We're going to give you a billion dollars, but this billion dollars will be spent on American companies coming in to help you, and you're still going to owe that billion dollars at the end of the road, and that's why we're going to own your ass.
	Only what happened this time is a billion dollars went to all these companies who did F all with it.
	Nothing.
	Except, well, I'm sorry, they did do something.
	They started to set up the hotels.
	But now it gets even better.
	Even better!
	The United States and Canada signaled on Monday mounting impatience with the leaders of Haiti, warning them to make greater efforts to resolve their nation's problems or risk an aid freeze!
	Yes, and unfortunately I don't have any audio of it, but U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said there was, quote, growing frustration, and that's when we're approaching the one-year anniversary of this Haitian earthquake, and there hasn't been the kind of coordinated, coherent response from the government of Haiti that it's called for.
	We're going to cut you off, bitches!
	It literally turns my stomach.
	And we've got Bill Clinton on the UN side and Hillary Clinton, who is in charge of USAID. These people are evil, I tell you.
	The two of them are evil.
	Evil!
	And they've taken your money, and you idiot, stupid slave human resources, I'm sorry to say it, you just state, oh, here's our money, oh, we've got some celebrities, oh, John Bon Jovi's singing for Haiti, let me give you some money, let me text you some money.
	You should be so outraged, so angry right now about this.
	I think you've made this point before.
	I have to do it because people forget.
	We move on.
	Well, there's a cycle involved with this.
	I've noticed it.
	I haven't pinpointed what it is, but there'll be another forget period of, I don't know, is it four years, three years?
	I don't know what it is.
	I mean, there was Hands Across America.
	It was a farm...
	Actually, farm aid seems to actually give money to people, but the comic relief, there's a whole bunch of...
	What was the one, the big giant one that was heavily documented how they got soaked?
	All these celebrities.
	And these things, you know, they have these, you know, there's a cycle of them.
	I don't know if they can push them together too tightly, but they, you know, they have some disaster.
	Everybody gets on the TV. Networks give up, you know, hours of time, which costs them money.
	They can't be too pleased with it.
	But they have to, otherwise they look like, you know, creeps.
	And it's unbelievable.
	It's a good business.
	Oh, it's a fantastic...
	Well, this is the business that Bob Geldof is in.
	That's what he does.
	It's a good business.
	That's what he does.
	And he gets good gigs out of it.
	Cool gigs.
	Yeah, he also gets an ad for the free watch.
	Yeah, he gets more than the free watch for doing the ad because he's Saint Bob.
	You know, they call him...
	He is a sir.
	He was knighted.
	Yeah, he's Sir Bob.
	Yeah, Sir Bob Geldof.
	But he...
	He got better knights than he did.
	But people call him Saint Bob.
	Saint Bob.
	I'm telling you.
	And I know he's...
	Look...
	I don't want to get any personal stuff, but I know a lot about Bob Geldof, and he's not a great guy.
	All right, so let's shift gears, or should I say shift tracks, which is a cue for one of our things.
	Shift tracks, get it?
	No, I'm not getting...
	Oh, you mean shift...
	Oh, oh, oh, John, do you mean shift tracks?
	All aboard!
	Train's good, plane's bad.
	Woo-hoo!
	So the left-wing MSNBC is making a big point out of trying to attack these couple of states, Ohio and Wisconsin, who say, screw you, high-speed rail is a scam.
	And the real reason, by the way, when you hear the full pitch of these guys, is that the government's going to give us a bunch of money and maybe create a few jobs, 5,500 in the case of Wisconsin, which Olbermann bitches and moans about.
	But the fact of the matter is the long-term maintenance is going to be up to the states and we can't afford it.
	Which is really the reason you don't want high-speed rail.
	But there was a new piece of information on this Obermann clip that I have that kind of redefines high-speed rail.
	See if you can figure it out.
	During his campaign to become governor of Wisconsin, Tea Party Republican Scott Walker pledged to add 250,000 jobs in his state by 2015.
	He's yet to take office and already his job creation tally is at negative 5,500 at least.
	In our third story, two Tea Party Republican governors-elect have turned up their noses at federal money for high-speed rail lines as their state's unemployed twist in the wind.
	The decision to rescind the high-speed rail money finally came down last Thursday.
	Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announcing that Wisconsin and Ohio would forfeit $1.2 billion that had been allocated to build high-speed rail lines in those states.
	The money, which did not require any state matching funds, was requested under Democratic governors.
	During their campaigns, Tea Party Republicans Walker and John Kasich of Ohio each promised to kill the rail projects.
	I want to tell you, I'm governor.
	The 39 mile an hour high speed passenger train is dead.
	Fox News governor had his facts wrong, of course.
	The train travels up to 79 miles an hour, averaging over 50.
	Before the $400 million in high speed rail money for Ohio was pulled, outgoing Democrat Ted Strickland unsuccessfully begged Governor-elect Kasich to reconsider.
	Wow!
	79 miles an hour!
	Yeah!
	Wow!
	When it's hitting, when it's full throttle.
	Wow!
	That's awesome!
	The average is 50.
	I think the 39 is actually the average.
	That's why he said 39.
	Yeah, no, that's why he said 39.
	But none of this is high-speed rail.
	It has nothing to do with it.
	It's just bullcrap.
	They're not even putting high-speed...
	Obviously, they're not putting high-speed tracks up there.
	No.
	This is like...
	No.
	That's not even, that's not even, that's like inner city.
	In Europe, they have the stuff that the one notch you have, for example, you have the high speed rail, then you have an inner city rail, which is called different things in different parts of different countries.
	That's what we call a high speed Saab, baby.
	That's the speed of my Saab.
	The high speed rail in Europe, so maybe 200 miles an hour, the inner city stuff is about 100 or 120.
	Sometimes the average is probably 80 or 90.
	Minimum.
	Minimum.
	This is like 39.50.
	Well, there's a coverage.
	And then Olbermann's arrogant about it.
	The high-speed rail goes up to 79 miles an hour and it averages 50.
	I have the facts right here!
	By the way, we're doing another Talking Points memo, and it will be about high-speed rail this time, and that's coming out at the end of this month, John?
	It's coming out as soon as I can finish it, but now I've got this new information.
	As soon as I can finish it.
	Well, there's something to add.
	There is now this huge Al Jazeera.
	Boy, Hill and Knowlton did a great job on this.
	Did an hour-long special titled, On a Wing and a Prayer.
	And it's based around these whistleblowers from Boeing who have uncovered the possibility of a catastrophic event.
	That the 737, the workhorse of Boeing, by the way.
	It is.
	That it is unsound.
	It's the Southwest jet of choice because it's never had a fatal accident.
	Well...
	It's never had a fatal accident to do with the aircraft.
	Correct.
	It's always been pilot error.
	But now they're saying, well, when it impacts the ground, it breaks up.
	Well, because...
	Really?
	Let me write that down.
	Let me write that down.
	Now, the plane is hitting the ground at what speed?
	It's beyond the point.
	But they did an hour-long special on Al Jazeera.
	And there's a lot of stuff going on here.
	But I think Hill and Nolton really pulled this one in.
	Because the 737, I think it's one of the most common...
	Passenger aircraft that's used.
	Oh yeah, they make all their money on that.
	And there's all kinds of, oh, I'm afraid to fly.
	I don't want to fly now.
	Just be afraid, slave.
	Be afraid to fly.
	Take the train.
	There's 85 million flights a year that go...
	Take off and land.
	There's 85 million takeoffs and 85 million landings a year.
	Where is the danger?
	Listen to this clip from Fox.
	The travel expert comes on, and she's going to talk about travel deals for the holiday season.
	Or you want to go on to Bing.com slash travel, and that is an airfare predictor.
	I went and looked for a flight over the holidays in Sarasota, Florida, and it actually told me last night, wait, because there is a 73% chance that you are going to get a better fare.
	So this is like cheap flights from Bing, great.
	Great.
	Okay.
	That's seven days.
	And I really like that.
	And the fare was around $600.
	So I'm going to go back and check it and see if it really pays off.
	I'm just testing it.
	I'm not going there.
	I'm driving.
	I hit the road over the holidays.
	I like to stay away.
	Most everybody does.
	Most everybody just driving or taking the train is what she's saying.
	You can't really hear it that well, I don't think.
	Would you use a microphone on that clip?
	Nah, someone sent the clip in as a mic.
	Oh, come on, guys.
	It's not that hard to...
	But it's actually quite a funny clip because she...
	And it's linked in the show notes, noagendershow.com.
	She says, you know, everyone's driving and taking the train.
	That's what she says.
	Nobody's taking the train.
	She said, everyone, John.
	I'm going to take the train.
	I'm going to go in this...
	You know, I'm going to go in the next couple weeks.
	I'll probably do it.
	Maybe I'll do it next week.
	I'm going to go down to Berkeley, jump on the train to Sacramento because I wanted to visit the train museum up there, which is a couple blocks away from the Amtrak.
	And I'm going to take my little camera and I'm going to shoot a little movie showing you how popular the train is and how long it takes.
	There's two ways I can go.
	I already calculated this out.
	It's like 50 bucks a ride.
	It's going to cost me $100, which is more than it would cost me in gasoline.
	I'm going to go up there.
	I'm not going to have a car.
	It would take me about the same amount of time to take the train and end up without a car, and it will cost me more, but I'm going to do it anyway.
	In that clip, she actually says, you can rent a car for $19.
	I'm like, yeah.
	Yeah, where?
	Yeah, before you get to the taxes and the insurance and all of that, $19.
	I would like to see an invoice from anybody at Fox showing me $19 a day total.
	Don't take it too seriously, John.
	It's bull crap.
	John?
	I think we need to pass on a very serious message right now.
	Can I interrupt the trains, good, planes, bad segment?
	I think we're done with it.
	And here we are again talking about a potential, a possible Al-Qaeda threat.
	Why does Al-Qaeda raise its head seemingly every holiday season?
	Okay, this is season to be jolly.
	And this is now everywhere.
	This is from CNN. Al-Qaeda is planning attacks this Christmas because they do it during the Christmas season because they hate Christ.
	Right.
	That's why.
	Listen to this.
	This is the Pentagon reporter from CNN. And they're going to attack.
	And by the way, it's Al-Qaeda in Iraq now, just so you know.
	I got a topper to that.
	You've seen their office, right?
	Here it is.
	Well, they are trying to cause disruption, and they know they can do it at the holiday season.
	Yes.
	This is great.
	When so many people are out and about, what do we know about this?
	Well, U.S. officials say they have received information from Iraqi authorities.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	I'm Iraqi Al-Qaeda and Iraqi.
	I'm telling you we're coming to disrupt you.
	You're shopping.
	You're out and about.
	Call it a season.
	Fuck Christmas!
	Who have talked to captured insurgents, interrogated them, and those people say Al-Qaeda in Iraq is planning attacks possibly against the U.S. or Europe at this holiday season.
	As you know, very close together, America or Europe doesn't matter.
	We're coming one way or the other.
	We're coming to get you.
	They say that there's no specific target or timing or specific location.
	Nothing.
	We got nothing.
	And we're not going to tell you when we're going to do it.
	It's like, what are you expecting?
	Hello, this is Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
	We're going to come to Bloomingdale's in Union Square at 12.05 p.m.
	Pass on the word.
	Target or timing or specific location associated with it.
	We're coming to Mall of America and Walmart.
	In Baghdad gave CNN this following statement.
	Let me read it.
	John, here it comes.
	Here's the statement.
	He says, quote, We are aware of the announcement by officials within the government of Iraq yesterday regarding alleged terrorist plans for attacks against the U.S. and Europe.
	How come we don't have video of that press conference?
	I mean, they did an announcement.
	The officials did an announcement.
	They said, hey, we're going to attack.
	Just so you know, we're attacking.
	The U.S. mission in Iraq will work closely with the government of Iraq and our interagency partners to help determine the extent of any potential threat.
	This is great.
	You have to understand.
	So they're taking it seriously.
	They're looking into it.
	But right now, nothing specific in terms of a location or a specific plan.
	We got the point.
	I love the fact that they're planning on attacking us.
	How many times is she going to say we don't know anything?
	I love that, though.
	It's so great.
	And why does she say that we're down?
	How does she know any of it?
	This is all bull crap.
	All right, looking into it, but is there anything or any talk?
	I know this is early, and I'm sorry.
	This is Don Lemon, by the way.
	This is why I play this clip.
	Don Lemon.
	Listen to his voice intonation as he's mocking, mocking this.
	Sorry if I'm even putting you on the spot here, but any talk about doing anything any differently at this point as we head for the holidays, more people heading to the airports as well, whether or not they're possibly going to be asking Americans once again to even step up their vigilance, if we can step it up any more than we already have.
	Well, you know, I think you just hit the question right there.
	Can it be stepped up reasonably any more than it already is?
	This is all part of see something, say something.
	It's like, oh, we're going to the airport.
	You've got to step it up.
	You've got to be vigilant.
	No indication at this point that U.S. authorities are planning any step up.
	But let's remind ourselves, vigilance in Europe is also very high.
	Just a few days ago, that car...
	Hey, stop this clip.
	It's driving me crazy.
	Vigilance?
	Vigilance is very high in Europe because a guy blew himself up.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You know, they're getting nowhere with this crap.
	We're not in the middle of World War II, for God's sake.
	But they're trying.
	It's gone worse than you think, as a matter of fact.
	Oh.
	With the new moniker that's showing up, AQUSA. Oh no.
	Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula in America?
	Is that what it is?
	And Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula based out of Yemen.
	And in fact, the current director of the Central Intelligence Agency has said that these two entities have become as threatening, if not more threatening, than Al-Qaeda Central.
	So that alone, I think, is evidence of the viability of the Al-Qaeda message and the resonance that it continues to have.
	Who is this?
	It's a professor at Georgetown named Hoffman.
	This is what they're teaching in school?
	Yep, and it gets worse because now he has this list of all these Al-Qaeda operations supposedly around the world.
	Al-Qaeda Central, Al-Qaeda Eurasian Peninsula, Al-Qaeda Yemen.
	And Al-AQ USA, Al-Qaeda USA. Let's hear it, let's hear it, let's do it.
	About the world.
	We see expansion as well with Al-Qaeda returning to the Sudan, establishing at least an embryonic operation in Khartoum, that's Al-Qaeda in the two Niles.
	I think we've got names for everything.
	We need t-shirts, hoodies, we need everything, people.
	Let's get on this bandwagon.
	And then, even more astonishingly, one has to say that al-Qaeda has put into place a very small, a minuscule, perhaps, but nonetheless, a viable means Of recruiting and radicalizing individuals, American citizens and American residents in this country.
	Now, it's rather bold, I have to say, to put up there on the slide Al-Qaeda in the USA as one of these networks.
	But I feel on fairly solid ground because when General Petraeus was in Washington last April and gave a public address at the Woodrow Wilson Center, he has his own slide that he calls it a star slide that has the Al-Qaeda networks throughout the world.
	And General Petraeus had AQUSA on it.
	So if General Petraeus says it, I have to say...
	This is amazing!
	Can I get the star slide?
	A-Q-U-S-A! A-Q-U-S-A! We're number one!
	We're number one!
	A-Q-U-S-A! I'm going to have a soccer game between these different groups.
	They've got a league.
	They've got a whole league.
	This list is a mile long.
	This guy is a dork!
	Who is he teaching?
	Kids?
	This was a lecture at one of the institutes, but the fact is he is a teacher of this information.
	He teaches public policy.
	I can't believe it.
	I just can't believe what I'm hearing.
	AQ USA. It's a very small fraction.
	So far, just now.
	The theme is Al-Qaeda's got a resonant message.
	So what they're trying to do, and I know you can just see where this comes from.
	It comes from the State Department, because everybody that's alive today pretty much has been raised on the notion that the country has to have an enemy.
	And there was always the red communists.
	And there was a communist under every bed, and we had to investigate the communists.
	And we had all this communism crap going on, and they were going to kill us.
	Yeah, commies.
	Once the Soviet Union collapsed into Russia and a few other things, we didn't have an enemy anymore.
	And nothing was showing up like we were expecting from Iran or some of these other countries.
	And so we created this al-Qaeda situation.
	And so now the al-Qaeda thing is not panning out enough because we don't have the communists under every bed analogy.
	So we've got to bring the al-Qaeda into our country.
	You know what?
	They're going to be in the movie business.
	And so that's why we have See Something, Say Something.
	That's why we have AQUSA as a new meme.
	Everything is about finding Al-Qaeda.
	They're in there under the bed.
	This is exactly what it was like in the 50s.
	So that's what we call a fractal.
	It's a total fractal.
	And it's a classic.
	And so we're going to be seeing more, not less.
	Well, I can take this one step further.
	By the way, before you take it a step further, I want you to do that.
	There are no Al-Qaeda in the USA, except some traveler, perhaps.
	Yeah, there are.
	They're at the Pentagon, the guys who set it all up.
	The CIA is Al-Qaeda.
	Well, take your one-step thing further.
	All right.
	So, in Gitmo Nation East, in the United Kingdom, Pauline Neville-Jones, she is, I believe, the minister of...
	I think she's the new Minister of Defense.
	It could be Homeland Security, whatever.
	She is now talking about this exact same fractal about radicalized al-Qaeda.
	I don't know if she says al-Qaeda, but people who are radicalized in the United Kingdom.
	And she has some ideas on what to do about that.
	But what they do, of course, is deadly.
	And so we have to bring about systems whereby intervention can take place with these individuals.
	But at what stage, then, is this money meant to be intervening?
	What is it paying for?
	We need, obviously, the cooperation of local community.
	We won't do it without being able to signal to us, here is an individual who looks as though he's getting into trouble.
	And that involves the local community being willing to tell Say, the police or the local authority.
	There's somebody here who needs help.
	And how does the money assist with that, then?
	Well, there are councillors, there are members of the local community who can go in and help, but all of that needs funding.
	So you actually do it.
	This is a very one-to-one, very nitty-gritty process.
	She actually says pre-crime.
	I'm sorry.
	Somehow I didn't get the right piece here.
	But do you believe at the moment that Muslim communities around this country do enough themselves, never mind the money and the prevent strategy etc, but do they do enough at the moment to provide the kinds of warnings that need to be provided?
	I think two things.
	One is, I think that it's variable.
	Secondly, I think that there's much greater awareness.
	I think one of the problems we face at the moment is awareness in the community actually getting to the people who also need to know about it, which is either the local police or the local police.
	Crap, I can't find that.
	I'm sorry about that.
	That totally Well, go re-dig it up and use it on the next show.
	But she actually says at a certain point, she says, we have to get to the pre-thought of when people are thinking.
	That's when we have to nip it in the bud is the pre-thought.
	So what this leads towards is pre-crime.
	That's what this all leads to.
	Yeah, but this is something we've been noticing all over the place.
	Duh.
	I'm glad that they're finally catching up to us.
	But you're right, John.
	You are so right.
	And of course, I think you've witnessed some of...
	No, maybe you haven't.
	You're too young for that.
	You weren't around when the communist thing was going, were you?
	I was around, but I was a little kid toddling around.
	I wasn't paying much attention to it.
	But it's been repeated forever, especially in the Berkeley area.
	We're never-ending reminders of the House Un-American Activities Committee, and of course Hollywood still irked about being called to the carpet.
	There's a whole series now on the moguls on the TCM Turner Classic movies that talks a lot about this.
	But the fact of the matter is this is what we're looking at.
	This is just the same old frack that we've got to get.
	But the thing that was always missing is you can't have a communist under every bed.
	With Al-Qaeda being in Sudan.
	No, no.
	AQUSA. We're number one.
	AQUSA. AQUSA. AQUSA. What?
	As if there's Al-Qaeda here.
	If I was in the Muslim community, and most Muslims in the United States are kind of liberal Muslims, they're not maniacs, they're not demanding that we have a Muslim scream and stuff so many times a day to prayer and all the rest of it.
	Most of them just run businesses.
	I would be livid.
	I would be living, because they are the targets.
	Yeah, but you have to understand that if you stand up and say, hey, this is bull crap, you are AQ USA, then you get it immediately.
	You're getting two to the head right then and there.
	And in fact, you're going to be great because you're going to make some noise, and then we can do a story about you, and then, hey, I saw something, I got to say something.
	Yeah.
	It's going real fast now, John, it really is.
	I feel kind of...
	Well, the guy in the backyard is the key to this whole thing as far as I'm concerned.
	He's a guy playing with his hoes and they gun him down.
	Check it out.
	It's in Long Beach.
	Look up Long Beach murder, killing, police, you know, hoes on Google.
	And go to NoAgendaShow.com, Dvorak.org, slash NA, and ChannelDvorak.com, slash NA, and help us keep digging into this stuff.
	In fact, we left a lot of stuff on the table.
	We'll bring it on us.
	Tons of stuff.
	On Sunday's show, there's a bunch of stuff.
	I got a very funny Assange thing, which is unusual, a new tax meme, and some other ideas.
	You're right.
	You know what?
	I had tons of stuff, too, but we're way over now.
	Can I do an end-of-show clip?
	Do you mind if I do that?
	What is it?
	It's our friend Nigel Farage.
	Oh yeah, anything with Farage is good to go.
	You don't even have to ask.
	He's berating Barrasso, the president.
	It's funny, as usual.
	It's just hilarious.
	He's our go-to guy for anything good.
	Okay, everybody, be on the lookout for Al-Qaeda.
	They will be in your school.
	They will be at the Walmart.
	They will be at the mall.
	If you see anything that looks like Al-Qaeda, recognized by a towel on their head and a beard, please report that to your Walmart manager.
	Immediately.
	Yeah, he's not working for the government.
	Be very, very afraid of Al-Qaeda USA. AQ USA all the way.
	Where's my hoodie?
	Come on.
	We're number one.
	And for those of you visiting Gitmo Nation, United States, I apologize for such idiots here.
	Coming to you from Gipno Nation West in the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	Actually, the countries they're coming from are probably worse in many cases, especially if it's the EU. I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And we will talk to you again on Sunday, of course, right here for early morning service on No Agenda.
	Mr.
	Barroso, the recent WikiLeaks storm has led to mixed feelings, with some people saying, well, transparency is good, and others saying, perhaps they'll damage international diplomacy.
	But I was particularly amused by the references to you in WikiLeaks, where it talked about your trip to Russia.
	And the fact that you were ignored and excluded, and the Russian view from upon high that you were nothing more than a glorified international civil servant.
	Well, Mr.
	Brose, remember, we've discussed this before here, and I've pointed out to you again and again that you have not been directly elected by the people, and you therefore have no real legitimacy.
	Is it?
	That the fact you're unelected is the reason why you don't command more respect on the global stage and why increasingly the peoples of Europe are holding you and the entire Commission in contempt.
	Thank you, Mr.
	President.
	I would not expect you to find a common line with the Russians.
	Because that's what you are suggesting, that you agree with them.
	Frankly, I mean, I was elected by this parliament.
	By secret vote.
	So I think I deserve the respect of this parliament from all members of the parliament.
	And I think in the European Union of Democracies, 27 democracies, it's a reasonable way to elect a president of the commission because we are not a state, precisely, and I'm sure you will not be in favor of a European unified state.
	Since we are not a unified state, it's not a direct election of a president of the European Union.
	We don't have that.
	We have a president of the commission.
	You may like it or not.
	I like him more than you.
	But in fact, I have been elected by this parliament and there is a president of the European Council that was designated by the heads of state and government.
	This is the way we are.
	I think it's a democratic way of handling the diversity of the European Union.
	And I think that if others do not respect our institutions, at least I hope the members of the European Parliament will respect the institutions we have in the European Union.
	Additional question?
	Well, Mr.
	Barroso, I enjoyed that enormously.
	The fact that you can stand up and boast about the fact that you were elected in secret and that somehow this gives you democratic legitimacy is the most bizarre concept I've come across in my entire life.
	The fact is, it is the commission.
	Builds the pyramids, slaves!
	Builds the Parthenon, slaves!
	Builds America, slaves!
	This is your song.
	Thank you.
	Slaves.
	Thank you.
	Slaves.
	Thank you. Slaves. Slaves.
	This is your song.
	Thank you.

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