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	Inventing the wheel in advance in case we have to.
	Huh?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, December 2nd, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 257.
	This is No Agenda.
	This is No Agenda.
	Looking over here while you look over there, and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, and the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm the man wanted by Interpol.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm also known as KJ6LNG, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	KJ6LNG. Oh, man.
	In the morning to you, Ham.
	In the morning to you and all ships at sea.
	And all of our boots on the ground.
	And of course our human resources in the chat room at noagendachat.net.
	All charges up ready to go the way their government loves them and needs them.
	We need you human resources.
	Hey, John.
	So there's some news this week.
	You know, it's funny.
	I got up my usual 5.30 this morning.
	350 individual stories that I tagged that I kind of had to go through and remember them and look at things.
	I spent three hours last night trying to look at things other than WikiLeaks.
	Oh, I thought the big news was that Michael Douglas is playing Liberace.
	Yeah, I'll give you one.
	No, because I'm seeing every single news channel, WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, Interpol WikiLeaks, Julian Assange WikiLeaks, Interpol, kill him, arrest him.
	And I'm like, something is going on.
	And there was so much going on.
	I have a bunch of clips, but what I got out of it was the fact that the reaction to this is more interesting than the actual event.
	Well, indeed, because the first thing you and I are kind of trained to do is to go look at the leak, to go look at the papers.
	And I'm like, oh, brother, how boring is this?
	It's like, first of all, lots of stuff in there that we've been talking about for six months.
	None of it deemed top secret.
	It's all classified or do not, you know.
	It's all bogus.
	It's like memos.
	It's like little notes to the teacher.
	They're cables.
	Cables?
	What the hell's a cable?
	I still don't get that.
	I think a cable is like, it goes through a secure cable, I guess.
	It's kind of like a cable.
	It's a cable.
	It's a telex.
	Cable is synonymous with telex.
	Remember the telex machines?
	Yeah, those days are over.
	They don't do cables anymore, do they?
	Don't they email the stuff around?
	No, apparently they do cables.
	Cables.
	They have some kind of internal system.
	Yeah, it's called a computer network.
	Who are they kidding with this cable nonsense?
	Well, that's what they call it still, a cable.
	Dude, confidential cable came in.
	Take me a break.
	Grow up.
	Get with the program.
	Check the calendar.
	2010's calling.
	You gotta get your emails.
	Yeah.
	Why don't we thank our...
	Do we have producers?
	Yeah, we got a couple.
	Let's thank them first, and then we'll dive into this.
	And there's lots of other stuff, because as I said, I was looking over there while you were all looking here.
	We've got one executive producer and four associates.
	Okay.
	And our executive producer is Sir Mike Menzies from Eltham North, Victoria, Australia.
	Hey, my birthday was on the 27th of November and he...
	We'd like to celebrate by offering you some cash.
	He gave us $250.
	I haven't listened for a while, but I have the episodes downloaded and waiting.
	You're falling behind.
	And I also know you to work your butts off, which is true.
	I feel I have a moral obligation to keep the show afloat.
	Also, I'd like to have my night ring by now.
	Well, we're going to have that coming shortly.
	We have some good news on the 101010 coins.
	At least we have them in hand now.
	Then we have the one, two, three, four associate executive producers, Paul Palchik in Camberwell, West Victoria, Australia, which is interesting.
	Our top people are from Australia this week.
	Well, I do have some Australian news.
	There's always something interesting going on down there.
	Oh, this place is crazy.
	His annual subscription is $1 times four hours times 52 weeks, which is $208.
	So he's basically given us the year's worth of last year's or this year's worth of shows by a buck apiece.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you very much.
	Yes, thank you.
	Which is a good idea.
	I agree.
	We should put that on there as a $208 one-time thing.
	That's not a bad idea.
	We may do that.
	And then we have our old buddy tiptopwebsite.com.
	Who wants to be plugged as such?
	Cocoa Beach, Florida.
	$200.
	No, Jen, the strip show.
	Keep up the good work, guys.
	And by the way, if anyone wants to put up a website, tip-top websites is one way to do it.
	Easy.
	Donations should put me about halfway to knighthood.
	Funny, when I talked last year on the phone, you said I should put my company on a TV commercial one year later while on This Week in Stardom.
	Adam said the same thing.
	That's because we unfortunately think alike.
	It's a curse, I tell you.
	It's a curse.
	They've played over 900 times nationally in the history channels and so on and so forth.
	He's done quite well.
	Tiptopwebsite.com.
	And then, as I scroll down the large message...
	Hans Hofner in Berlin, Deutschland.
	Really nice town.
	If anybody wants to travel, go there in the morning.
	John and Adam's spreadsheet may or may not show.
	I'm a douchebag for not sticking to my word of when I would support the show.
	Be that as it may, here's the rest of the money I was gonna send a couple of weeks ago.
	Very rare a German would use the word gonna.
	Better late than never.
	I am a film composer and if anybody wants to connect and perhaps have me work on their film, I'd be glad to get in touch with either creative people who work The way you guys do, the way you guys think, and so on.
	If you could put a link to my site in the show notes.
	Yeah, we'll do that for sure.
	It would be handy there.
	It is soundcloud.com.
	So we'll put a link on the show.
	Hey, John, you know, you just dropped down to AM quality.
	That's how bad the Skype connection is.
	Well, this is why I've got my call letters now.
	Yeah, you passed your test, and no sooner had you done that than it sounds like you're on the shortwave.
	And then $200 from Matthew Lacey, who...
	Send us an email to go along with this, and I'll look up the email, and we'll discuss what he had to say during the break, or donation break.
	A couple of, actually only one PR mention, but something, actually I hadn't thought about this, and I thought it was quite interesting.
	Remember we did that thing for noagendaip.com?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it turned out quite funny.
	If you go to noagendaip.com, John and I will read out your slave IP address.
	It's cool.
	It's a great little, you know, it's like you use this all the time, particularly sysadmins.
	Like, what's the public IP address?
	And I think what a lot of people used to use is what'smyip.com.
	So now I just use noagendaip.com.
	It gives it to you in digits right there on the page, but then you can choose either my voice or John's voice telling you, slave.
	In fact, that's how it starts off, slave, what your IP address is.
	So the guy who runs this is, of course, our vajazzling friend who did vajazzling.com.
	Ah, the vajazzler.
	Yeah, the vajazzler.
	Okay.
	And so he was looking through the logs.
	I'm very proud to announce that noagendaip.com in the past week was accessed by the Weather Channel internally, which I think is great, and uscourts.gov, which may not be so great for us.
	It may not bode well.
	Maybe they're violating some law doing this.
	And I think if you have a no agenda based website, take a look at the logs from time to time and see who's accessing it.
	I think uscourts.gov is an interesting development.
	But again, I don't...
	U.S. courts.gov, what is it?
	It's the U.S. court system.
	The whole system?
	The whole system is looking at us.
	I don't know.
	Apparently at least one person inside the United States court system at uscourts.gov is looking at our sites.
	Probably just to get their IP address, but you never know.
	So I think people who are running a no-agenda-based site should check it out.
	It's kind of cool.
	Yeah, check your logs.
	Because I think what it really means, we've got people on the inside.
	This is good.
	And the emails I received this week proved that once again.
	So special thanks to our executive producer for episode 257 of the No Agenda Show, Sir Mike Menzies, and our associate executive producers Paul Palczek, TipTopWebsite.com, Hans Hoffner, and Matthew Lacey.
	As some of you on this list already know, this is an official credit, and you're building up these credits.
	I see people with...
	Email signatures that are getting lengthier as they are, yet again, a producer or an executive producer or associate of an individual episode.
	It's highly appreciated because this is the only way that we can finance the show.
	And we've chosen the difficult path, but one we feel is righteous.
	Everybody else out there, well, you've got to go out and do this very important thing, which is propagate our formula.
	It is extremely simple.
	Listen up.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New world order.
	Say it with me now.
	Shut up, slave.
	Stupid slave.
	You dumb, dumb, dumb slave.
	So to reframe what we were talking about earlier, John, I spent most of my time looking at anything that the WikiLeaks extravaganza could be distracting from, and I found quite a few...
	Well, you want to talk about the WikiLeaks extravaganza first?
	Because it is kind of a bonanza for people that like to probe the news.
	Yeah, I think...
	Well, you sent me a...
	Excuse me.
	You okay?
	I almost puked.
	I'm all worked up about the Skype quality.
	It pisses me off.
	You sent me a Skype message earlier in the week, and you asked me a question.
	You're like, I don't want to tip my hat.
	So I figured you were working on an angle, and I wouldn't mind hearing what it is.
	I couldn't find it.
	Wait, you couldn't find an angle at all?
	No.
	No, no, I found a bunch of angles, but I never really...
	Here's what happened.
	Now, people who want to follow the WikiLeaks thing, the first thing you want to do is you want to go give up on the American media.
	Right.
	Although that's not entirely true because I have two clips that I found that I think it was on accident, but I think it actually tells us a lot about what's going on.
	But okay.
	For starters, let's begin this extravaganza into the WikiLeaks issue with a couple.
	I'm going to first give you a premise.
	And then I want to just get some of the clips out of the way so we can discuss this in more detail after we hear the clips.
	First of all, I was aghast.
	At the reaction to the Wikiclips thing, especially from the media.
	I mean, what's wrong with these people?
	You know, I saw it as, wow, this is a bonanza.
	This is what the fourth estate is supposed to be doing, you know, digging into the government and what they're up to and all the machinations, the duplicity, the creepiness, all that stuff.
	But instead of that, we're hearing people, well, let's play a couple of these clips and see what we're talking about here.
	Play the Dennis Miller clip that was on the O'Reilly Factor.
	Okay, Dennis Miller on the O'Reilly Factor.
	Hold on.
	Here we go.
	And then the last revelation was a no shock to me, that Kucinich is indeed from the planet Uranus.
	So this time through, I think we all knew this stuff.
	The last time through, when they revealed names in our effort in the war on terror, yeah, I think if this kid keeps this up, this is the reason the poison tip bumper shoots were invented.
	And if they're not going to do that, I at least say we sentence him to three hours on a tanning bed with Snooki.
	Do you want him punished?
	Yeah, I think they should off him just because he's a pale dweeb.
	Listen, I assume that somewhere in the bowels of Langley, there's an old CIA guy like Alfred Molina and the company.
	One of these old-style Eastern Bloc spooks.
	And I guarantee you, if this guy gets anywhere near anything that's really going to compromise this country, I assume they off him.
	But he understands that.
	I don't think so.
	Not anymore.
	I mean, after the first round in July, they should have charged him with espionage.
	I didn't do anything about it.
	You know, I saw all this stuff.
	It was just so annoying to me.
	It's sickening, to be honest about it.
	I mean, he's actually, Miller, is actually advocating killing this guy.
	Well, a lot of people were advocating killing him.
	A bunch of people were advocating killing the guy for what?
	For bringing out a bunch of catty memos?
	I mean, here, play the Jon Stewart take one.
	Okay.
	You're a little fast on me today, Jon.
	Sorry.
	I'm telling the candid conversations between high-level ambassadors.
	Statecraft.
	Laid bare.
	This is going to be a national embarrassment.
	French President Sarkozy, described as thin-skinned and an emperor with no clothes.
	Muammar Gaddafi, inseparable from a voluptuous blonde, referred to officially as his senior Ukrainian nurse.
	And North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il, a flabby old chap.
	Who put Perez Hilton in charge of our diplomatic corps?
	Hey, Columbia, is that your army or did Minuto just get back together?
	Real!
	Real!
	So now that's what a comedian would tell.
	And even that wasn't all that funny.
	It wasn't that funny, but he's not advocating killing the guy.
	Now the one that was interesting to me was Carl Bernstein, Woodward's buddy, who I never thought was part of the agency like Woodward is, part of some agency.
	And he actually, I think, had the...
	He only showed up in, of all things, the Joy Behar show.
	Nobody...
	Which is ludicrous, because this guy is like a, you know, a guy, a true investigative reporter who appreciates...
	Well, he's got to speak, this is where you go speak to the slaves!
	But he at least appreciates what's going on.
	Play the Bernstein clip.
	Pardon me, Michael.
	Secret information always carries a risk, and we have to be very careful about how we use that information.
	Okay, Michael, what did you want to say?
	I agree, and I think Secretary of Gates came out yesterday and said, hey, basically, this is not a big deal, which raises another question.
	Well, if these disclosures aren't a big deal, then why are we spending so much time trying to classify all this secret information?
	Well, actually, most of it's low-classification information, right?
	Weren't you interested in the fact that the Arab world would like us to bomb the nuclear reactor in Iran?
	I mean, I thought that was fascinating.
	I'm saying they're a great story.
	That's a good point.
	That's fascinating!
	That's exactly what I said.
	It's a terrific story.
	There are lots of terrific stories in here.
	And sure, the State Department doesn't want that disclosed because it comes through there.
	Also, many of the things that came...
	The point is he recognizes the fact that this is a cache of good material that could be useful for writers.
	So why would you trash...
	I mean, what is Fox's problem?
	They're the ones who are all over this thing as some sort of a...
	You know, we should find him for espionage.
	Hey, he's not an American citizen.
	I heard a guy saying he should be arrested for treason.
	He's not an American.
	How can he be...
	How does this even work?
	That was that idiot, what's his name, the Baptist minister who's running for president.
	I don't know.
	The rent's too damn high guy?
	You know, what's his name?
	You know, Hucklebee.
	Okay, I've got to stop you on this.
	Because I found a couple of clips which I think do kind of explain what's going on.
	So first, our assertion is WikiLeaks is a front for the CIA or other intelligence organizations, and it's used to embarrass people, to start to stir up crap, and clearly there was embarrassment targeted against Hillary Clinton.
	Yeah, and by the way, that is our assertion.
	It always has been.
	And all that this shows, besides that, you know, I agree that, you know, what this shows is that this is really a good control one because they got stuff in there that's obviously meant to be leaked out for some reason.
	In fact, Putin actually said that.
	He believes the whole thing in a lot of these.
	He thinks some of the memos are fake.
	All these guys say it's fake.
	They all say it's the U.S. government trying to control the...
	Right, and I think that they're probably right.
	Yeah.
	But that's not what bothers me.
	What bothers me is the media itself turning on this batch of information, which is just a bunch of resource material that you should be happy is out there.
	Well, it's their job to do that.
	It's their job to make a big story out of it that doesn't actually go into the details of the cables.
	Well, that's the American media.
	But if you go and, like, I recommend people do, which I was going to say before I was cut off, is that if you want to actually read some good stuff, some good analysis, some funny material, you have to go to the communist paper, the Guardian in the UK. Yeah.
	They're loaded with stuff.
	Well, The Guardian, of course, this is another tip-off.
	For a site that leaks things, again, they're leaking to mainstream media first, giving The Guardian...
	I guess they didn't give The New York Times anything up front.
	No, I think The New York Times did get something.
	Oh, they did?
	I think.
	And the funniest thing, of course, is...
	You know, you saw the stock price of a Bank of America vary with about 5% to 7%.
	Yeah, Bank of America looks like that.
	Oh, a bank is next!
	They were like, Bank of America, Bank of America, which of course was targeted with, you know, they targeted 30 plus of the Bank of America employees by landing the jet in the Hudson River.
	This is not the first time Bank of America has been threatened by some evil group.
	That's my assertion.
	I'm not going to argue with it because it's just too many coincidences and too much good stuff.
	I don't want to push my clips, but I've got one more which, to me, triggered the whole thought.
	That the whole thing is rigged, is that immediately after the notes were leaked, PBS, the National Treasure, it immediately had Secretary Gates, ex-CIA, Defense Department guy carried over from the Bush administration because obviously you take him or get shot.
	And he makes a comment.
	This is like on Monday.
	Without looking at one memo, which means he looked at him before, says it's no big deal with kind of a sly smirk on his face if you want to play the Gates on WikiLeaks clip.
	...to powerful people.
	WikiLeaks began releasing 250,000 State Department documents over the weekend, but today, Defense Secretary Robert Gates played down the overall effect.
	The fact is, governments deal with the United States because it's in their interest.
	Not because they like us, not because they trust us, and not because they believe we can keep secrets.
	Because otherwise we'll go out and we'll kick their ass!
	Many governments, some governments deal with us because they fear us, some because they respect us, most because they need us.
	We are still, essentially, as has been said before, the indispensable nation.
	Also today, the State Department cut off the U.S. military.
	All right, so there's a couple of players here.
	We have the, so Gates is Defense Secretary, right?
	Right.
	So he's Pentagon.
	Right.
	Now, does the CIA fall under Pentagon?
	No, no, no.
	Okay, so I believe that the warring fractions, because this is clearly done for internal political motives, and the person I see hurt the most, who responded the most, and you doth protest too much, I think, is Hillary Clinton.
	And who, of course, is without a doubt, you know, the talk about her possibly becoming president.
	And vice president.
	At the same time, actually.
	She could do it.
	That's a winner of a ticket.
	Is heating up.
	Right?
	That was heating up just before this release, actually.
	She's out there.
	She's really making the move.
	She's making the rounds.
	Then I think we have the CIA faction, who probably control the entire WikiLeaks organization.
	And then we have the Pentagon, who are downplaying it and saying, ah, well, you know, whatever.
	And actually probably...
	themselves, in a way, at war with the CIA. I mean, there's a whole bunch of different players here.
	So...
	I think they may have teamed up on this one because...
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Let me just...
	There are two reports that I found, and one is a report.
	The other one actually has the spokeshole for the Pentagon speaking on Fox, which I found to be really an outstanding interview.
	But listen to this first, because this is, I think, kind of what it boils down to here, besides screwing Hillary Clinton.
	Mitchell joins us now.
	Andrew, as we reported, the State Department worked feverishly to try to stop these leaks, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
	So what is the reaction there tonight?
	Oh, you can imagine.
	This is a nightmare, Natalie, a nightmare for U.S. diplomats.
	It's a nightmare!
	It's a nightmare!
	Who is calling a political meltdown for U.S. foreign policy.
	Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spent the weekend basically speed dialing her counterparts in China and Germany, Great Britain, Canada, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, France, and Afghanistan, just to name a few.
	I can totally imagine her doing that, by the way.
	This is bullshit.
	This is these cocksuckers.
	You know she talks like that.
	No, she talks like a truck driver, apparently.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Trying to limit the damage.
	But if you've ever had a friend learn that you've said unflattering things about them behind their back, you can imagine the reaction.
	John, how pissed would you be if I told people that you were a douchebag behind your back?
	I mean, you can just imagine what that would mean.
	I would be steamed.
	You would be really angry.
	You would be speed dialing everybody.
	Talking about the most sensitive issues of foreign policy, like U.S. concerns over Pakistan's nuclear arsenal, as Mick reported, or Saudi King Abdullah's desire for the U.S. to attack Iran, or Clinton's suspicions about Vladimir Putin's business dealings with Italy's Prime Minister Berlusconi.
	By the way, duh!
	Duh, please.
	They'll tell me that they have changed the State Department computer system to better protect diplomatic secrets from Pentagon access.
	Okay, now listen carefully to what's being said here.
	So now they're changing the internal computer systems.
	This because officials point out that the Pentagon is the suspect for the original source of this leak.
	Okay, so that's nice.
	Officials point out, I have no quote, of course, but are saying the Pentagon is the source.
	That's interesting.
	That's good.
	And I'm also told that this will now cause a government-wide re-examination of those post-9-11 reforms.
	Ah!
	Very interesting.
	This was the sharing information between...
	Oh, yeah.
	Right?
	So now it's like, oh, now we're not going to share any information.
	So now we're making it even more compartmentalized.
	Requiring agencies to share their intelligence with each other.
	So, Andrew, the real question, I guess, is in this age of war and terror, what really is the potential fallout?
	Could this then be a game-changer?
	Okay, so I took that, and I'm like, oh, that's interesting, because that's basically the Patriot Act.
	You know, there's all kinds of stuff in there.
	Well, I think it's even more than that, because remember when Obama first came in, and he put this Uber guy in?
	Yes, exactly.
	And we guys got to talk to each other more.
	Yep, exactly.
	Now, this is the report from Fox, where the hot chick...
	She talks to this spokesman for the Pentagon who plays down this whole thing.
	She actually comes out with a couple of good questions.
	The one that immediately was on my mind is, hey, if WikiLeaks is such a tremendous, you know, if Hassan should be killed, and he should be probably just for being annoying.
	But if he should be killed, why don't we just do what we did over Thanksgiving weekend and just change the DNS? Just route around it.
	It was so easy to take down all these 70 or 80 websites by changing the DNS entry and seizing them, now confirmed by Department of Homeland Security.
	By ICE. Confirmed.
	Confirmed that they did that, which is of course a bad thing.
	How come they didn't do that now?
	What about the big cyber team that the Pentagon has?
	So this report and what this guy says will actually, in my mind, legitimize the claim that the leaks came from the Pentagon.
	And this is a Fox News alert.
	A top U.S. diplomat is now warning that Julian Assange's latest document dumped through his website WikiLeaks has substantially hurt U.S. diplomatic efforts.
	This, as more questions arise about why the Pentagon did not stop WikiLeaks from publishing these embarrassing documents to begin with.
	The Pentagon Press Secretary, Jeff Morrell, who is the Chief Spokesman for Defense Secretary Robert Gates, is my guest now.
	Jeff, thanks so much for being back with us.
	We appreciate it.
	My pleasure, Megan.
	Thanks for having me.
	I want to ask you about this cyber command, okay?
	Because I don't think a lot of our viewers have ever even heard of this thing.
	But it's basically something that's been recently implemented at the Pentagon to protect us from cyber attacks and computer hacking and that kind of thing.
	And Major General Bob Scales, who's a Fox News military analyst, was on Fox News this weekend.
	And he said this, Jeff, take a listen.
	This is a wake-up call for Keith Alexander and the guys in Cyber Command.
	I don't think anyone questions the fact that we've not done all we could offensively to take the fight, in this case, to the enemy.
	We've spent most of our time trying to defend ourselves within the Department of Defense.
	But you remember, Greg, war is a two-sided endeavor, offense and defense.
	And until we get our act together in attacking these sources, the enemy will always have the initiative and the advantage.
	So why didn't we use Cyber Command to shut down WikiLeaks before they released these documents?
	Well, you know, Megan, I think Major General Scales is correct, that there is an offensive and a defensive component.
	Listen how he's not going to answer the question, but he will actually kind of allude to what's going on.
	...to our work in the cybersphere.
	Cybersphere, John.
	It's the cybersphere.
	We have never danced around that.
	The fact is that we are really trying to focus on beefing up our defensive capabilities because it is becoming an increasing threat.
	But we also clearly have offensive capabilities.
	But it is, at the end of the day, the determination of those who are charged with such things.
	In other words, the boss said, no, leave it up.
	That's the whole point.
	The decision was made not to proceed with any sort of aggressive action of that sort in this case.
	So right there, whether the Pentagon released it or not, there was a decision made at high level saying, yeah, of course, Gates.
	We're not going to stop it.
	We're not going to stop this.
	This is great!
	Ha!
	I'm sure they were laughing.
	I would be.
	Should we do it like, Hey, Cyber Command, it's Gates here.
	Gates, hey.
	Don't touch that wiki thing, man.
	It was just deemed not appropriate for us to consider such a thing.
	Not appropriate!
	It wasn't.
	No, but it's so funny that he's basically just saying it.
	Why is that?
	What is wrong with her?
	She's hot.
	I mean, was she supposed to be a newswoman?
	Why aren't we shutting stuff down?
	Why aren't we censoring everything?
	Why is this stuff coming out?
	What kind of news organization is Fox?
	They're terrible.
	She's hot.
	It doesn't matter what she says.
	She's not that hot.
	She's hot enough.
	Please!
	Everybody knows they've come out with leaks before.
	Some would argue that they weren't quite as damaging as the latest leaks, but I'll leave that to the viewers to decide.
	Why not go after them when you know their history?
	I think this is a capability that is reserved for threats of much higher consequence than this would have been.
	At the end of the day, as you heard from the Secretary of Defense yesterday, Megan, this creates some awkward and embarrassing situations for the United States government.
	It clearly puts those who cooperate with us, even some of our diplomats, in difficult positions, hopefully not endangered positions.
	But at the end of the day, it does not adversely, or at least over the long term, adversely impact America's power or prestige.
	Secretary Gates just does not buy into that.
	Senator Gates, there it is!
	Why did he say senator, by the way?
	I don't know.
	That's interesting.
	Did he say that?
	Maybe he said secretary.
	Maybe I just misunderstood.
	Over the long term, adversely impact America's power or prestige.
	Secretary Gates just does not buy into that.
	So Gates called this, clearly.
	Yeah, of course.
	You know, people don't do business with America necessarily because they like us.
	There's the line.
	There's the line.
	There it is.
	People don't do business because they like us because you should be afraid of us.
	Here it is.
	America necessarily because they like us or even trust us.
	They do business with us because they must.
	We are the last one remaining indispensable power.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	How awesome is that?
	Yeah.
	You need to shut up, everybody, because we will come there.
	Look, hey, seen Iraq, bitches?
	You seen Afghanistan, bitches?
	Seen Pakistan?
	Seen Yemen?
	We're going to come to your...
	What, you want to complain?
	Want to complain?
	Did I hear you complain?
	And by the way, if you're going to be duplicitous and say one thing and do another...
	Ah, maybe it gets out once in a while.
	Yeah, so, you know, it's the way it goes.
	And that's basically all that was going on here, was just a bunch of stuff going on behind the scenes that needed to get out.
	It got out, and assholes like the Fox News Network that were against it, they want to censor the news?
	What is with these people?
	I mean, that woman should be ashamed of herself to be a newscaster.
	She's obviously just a bimbo.
	You know, and I went through the documents that were released.
	Because, of course, not everything's been released, right?
	It's coming out piece of the...
	Yeah, but, you know, I read it.
	It's like, so what?
	You know, it's nothing that we haven't discussed on this show.
	I got a couple things, though, that are kind of interesting.
	And I want to finish, since we're on this topic...
	Since you brought Hillary up and the fact that she's obviously a douchebag.
	She's a target.
	She's a total, total chem.
	Not a chemtrail.
	Now you have to play the Jon Stewart on WikiLeaks thing, which does mention her, again, lighthearted way, but it is pretty funny.
	What has Assange bin Dyson wrought?
	Cables that reportedly show Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice before her ordered U.S. embassies and intelligence services to gather private information on U.N. leaders and diplomats.
	Yemen's President Saleh telling General David Petraeus about strikes in Yemen will continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours.
	German Chancellor Merkel avoids risk and is rarely creative.
	Afghan President Karzai is driven by paranoia.
	Dmitry Medvedev plays Robin to Mr.
	Putin's Batman.
	Ahmadinejad is Hitler.
	Italy's foreign minister is calling this leak a diplomatic 9-11.
	Well, then he's a f***ing idiot.
	I mean, not for nothing!
	But if this is the diplomatic 9-11, sack up!
	I'll give you its diplomatic mischief night, maybe.
	But most of the s*** in there is non-policy chit-chat and things we already knew.
	And quite frankly, Ahmadinejad is Hitler?
	I think he might take that as a compliment.
	A peace offering towards a detente.
	I mean, transparency is a good thing.
	Government wrongdoing should be ferreted out.
	Although, just because something secret doesn't necessarily mean it's nefarious.
	How's Secretary of State Hillary Clinton dealing with the blowback?
	Madam Secretary, are you embarrassed by these leaks personally, professionally?
	Is she embarrassed?
	Were you alive in the 90s?
	Do you have any idea who you're dealing with?
	You know she's married to this guy, right?
	Yeah, alright.
	Okay, so let me just sum it up.
	With the following.
	So, clearly, Pentagon released this, clearly to achieve a number of goals.
	One, embarrass Secretary of State.
	Maybe she's not doing a good sales job on rockets and crap we've got to put everywhere.
	Might not be selling enough missiles.
	Yeah, with the START treaty and all that.
	Maybe she has her own agenda.
	But definitely...
	Without a doubt, the military-industrial complex is out there saying, hey, you may not like us, but screw you, because you've got to deal with us, because we are the power.
	And that's literally what the guy is saying.
	What Gates said, too.
	Gates said it.
	The Pentagon spokeshole is saying it.
	So it's clearly...
	Everybody's saying it but Fox.
	Yeah.
	Well, the guy is saying it on Fox, so that's kind of good.
	The thing that made me laugh the loudest, though, is, of course, Julian Assange.
	So there's an Interpol red...
	Alert.
	Which means nothing, by the way.
	Interpol can't make any country arrest him.
	Sweden asked Interpol to put him on the list.
	And only countries that have an extradition with Sweden, which I'm sure is a lot.
	I haven't looked it up.
	Only they can actually arrest him and then extradite him.
	So it's not like Interpol is hunting him down with agents.
	And this is still about molestation charges, not rape charges.
	So that's totally bogus.
	That's just to give the guy some credibility, I guess.
	But the funny thing was, Christine Assange, his mom, is worried about her son's well-being.
	As Australia's government joined the United States in launching an investigation, do you know what she does, his mom?
	No, but this I'm sure is a good one.
	She runs a puppet theater.
	Wow.
	I'm like, okay.
	Could it get any better than that?
	Yeah, symbolic.
	It's a fractal.
	But regarding the media, John, I think the memo went out.
	Everyone's like, you play this up.
	We've got to make this a big deal.
	And they didn't do any of this the first time around.
	When they released all the Iraq documents, it wasn't that big.
	I think this is definitely leading up to the bank memos, which is going to shake.
	Oh, yes, exactly.
	And people made a lot of money on just the news.
	And then when Bank of America came out and said, no, we've had no contact at all with Assange.
	Then all of a sudden the stock price went up again.
	And people made some money there just on that little blip.
	However, there is a link in the show notes at noagendashow.com under the Ministry of Truth and the subheading WikiLeaks.
	You should go look at the murals at the Bank of America.
	They're in North Carolina, their headquarters.
	It could not be more creepy.
	They've got all kinds of burning bushes, people hanging on puppet strings, all kinds of 33rd degree Mason symbolism.
	In fact, it reminds me a lot of the Denver airport stuff.
	It's really creepy.
	That was the company that took over the Bank of America, which actually was a San Francisco based company.
	It took for years.
	Oh, really?
	Originally the Bank of Italy turned into the Bank of America.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	World's largest bank for a while, while in San Francisco, while headquartered.
	And then this scam artist, I would say, mainly because they ruined the Bank of America and they changed the colors and the logo and everything in between.
	Out of North Carolina and...
	They're kind of like the way, you know, the old AT&T was re-pieced together by Southwestern Bell.
	Or not, by SBC. And, yeah, I guess that's Southwestern Bell.
	And they, you know, they bought up Pacific Telephone and Telegraph.
	They bought up all these little companies all over the country and then renamed themselves AT&T. Right.
	So they could keep that building in San Francisco, which is a CIA building.
	You know, building of some sort.
	You think?
	Some sort.
	So this has been going on, but the Bank of America became a crappy bank when these guys...
	I mean, a crappy bank.
	I refused to do business with them.
	Once they were taken over by this group in South Carolina, the customer service is not there anymore.
	It's a mess.
	And it doesn't surprise me.
	There's something fishy about it.
	One of the things I want to do, again, to get a few clips out of the way...
	If nothing else, we did learn a few weird little tidbits which have been confirming what we've been saying on the show all along.
	And the one clip that I played earlier, the first Jon Stewart clip, you may have missed it, but they did have a quickie in there about Yemen.
	Yeah.
	Where the guy said, you know, we'll take credit for the bombs.
	You know, we'll say we dropped the bombs.
	I did hear that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Our bombs in Yemen.
	And we talked about this bombing of Yemen by the U.S. and the invasion by the United States already about, what, six months ago?
	Yeah.
	Remember when Yemen was first started coming up in the conversation before they even came up with the Al-Qaeda thing?
	We had people documenting the fact that we were there doing something up north?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So that's kind of documented.
	The other weird thing that took place was I think the BBC report on Putin and Russia where they dug out of the WikiLeaks thing was worth listening to because it resulted in Putin coming on the Larry King show last night.
	Yeah, I started to watch that, and I'd already done my three hours of congressional hearings, which I'll get into later.
	It was very annoying to me, because you get the split screen.
	They've clearly post-edited this to take out all the interpretation stuff.
	You can't hear Putin.
	You get this horrible translator.
	No, the translator's the worst.
	And I just couldn't watch it.
	But I'm glad you did, so I didn't have to.
	Yeah.
	Well, there was a couple of things that came out of it, but first, if we could play these two, I'll be, you know, the second half of the show doesn't give you a lot of your clips, but first I want to play the WikiLeaks BBC take on Russia, which I thought was very interesting.
	Again, nothing that we don't really know, but it's interesting the way it's presented.
	The world's biggest country and Europe's major energy supplier.
	The candid assessment by Spanish judge and mafia expert Jose Grinder-Gonzalez is quoted in a cable from the U.S. Embassy in Madrid released by The Guardian tonight.
	The judge claims that Russia has become a virtual mafia state so that one can't differentiate between the activities of the government and organized crime groups.
	And the strategy is to use OC, or organized crime groups, to do whatever the government can't acceptably do as a government.
	The judge cites, without elaborating, the mysterious case of the Russian cargo ship Arctic Sea, which went astray last year, as a clear example of arms trafficking, an allegation Russia has always fiercely rejected.
	And he describes as accurate the thesis of the poison spy, Alexander Litvinenko, of links between Russian intelligence and the mafia.
	But to the key question, the judge reportedly has no answer.
	The extent to which Russian Prime Minister Putin is implicated in the Russian mafia and whether he controls them.
	Mr Putin himself has been clear of his verdict so far on WikiLeaks.
	Slander.
	No doubt these latest allegations will reinforce that.
	There are plenty of rumours about the Russian state and organised crime.
	It's another thing to prove it and these cables don't do A long-awaited report on ways to pass the United States.
	Kill, kill.
	Yeah, okay, so, um...
	So then Putin comes on, and he goes on, and blah, blah, blah.
	He's very boring, I have to say.
	Well, Larry King is boring.
	Well, now, Mr.
	Putin.
	So, uh, Mr.
	Prime Minister.
	Mr.
	Prime Minister.
	Okay, now I only have one thing there.
	I got a couple of clips.
	There's only one that's important because it was like...
	Well, you want the teaser first?
	Oh, the teaser's good.
	Now, by the way, within this teaser is the real reason Putin was on.
	We'll ask the Prime Minister about Afghanistan and other things.
	Ask him about George Bush's new book.
	Ask him as well about whether the World Cup might come to Moscow in 2018.
	Oh, there it is.
	It's the only thing that counted was the World Cup, which they got.
	He spent one-third of the interview discussing this.
	And they got it.
	It was announced this morning.
	They got it.
	Well, there you have it.
	It was Larry King that put it over.
	They totally got it.
	That's amazing.
	We went on and on about how it is so bad that FIFA is being maligned.
	These people are good people.
	Did you read the story about FIFA? The Federation of International Football Associations.
	This huge scandal where all these guys on the inside were paid tens of millions of pounds.
	According to Putin, it was just all lies.
	It's all lies, I tell you.
	So he goes on about it's all lies.
	They get the thing the next day.
	The next day, literally.
	Good work, Larry King.
	Larry's going to be up front and center, man.
	He's got some good seats for that thing.
	He's got some great seats.
	The only one that was interesting is that I think, because I'm always listening to this stuff going, yeah, yeah, we know this.
	But then once in a while somebody says something, it's like, well, I didn't know that.
	Did you know this?
	Play the Putin bomb on Afghanistan and tell me you knew this.
	Well, you know, I would think that the international coalition in Afghanistan today is carrying out an important and positive mission.
	We cannot and shall not be present there militarily ourselves, but we've been rendering assistance both to the American partners and other partners of the international coalition in Afghanistan in various ways and means.
	We have agreed to ensure transit, and we've been doing that, including Not only by air, but also by surface.
	Relating important, pertinent information, including we have got it through our special services, which you have mentioned a few minutes earlier.
	This could be related to an absolute positive side of our interaction.
	There were instances when our helicopter flyers Took out American and Dutch military stuff.
	From the battlefield being fired on by the enemy.
	And there are other means to support the international efforts in Afghanistan.
	For example, assisting the government in office and the armed forces of Afghanistan.
	This is a whole set, a big set of joint work there.
	We count on the fact that this effort will bear positive fruit.
	Let's discuss the former...
	Let's discuss something else.
	So, that's interesting.
	I didn't know that the Russians were helping us to that degree.
	I didn't either.
	This was all news to me.
	Of course, nobody in the mainstream media picked up any of it.
	I didn't read anything afterwards.
	I just thought it was weird.
	Breaking from the BBC, Swedish authorities have issued a fresh arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange following a procedural error with the first one.
	Hey, you know why this is going to heat up?
	They should have never let it drop the bomb about the banks.
	Those guys are serious.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, they will kill you.
	Yeah.
	They will totally kill you.
	Yeah.
	No, that's...
	There's a good movie, by the way.
	You might want to put it on the list of movie guys.
	There's an alert here.
	Uh...
	It's about international banking called The International.
	Yeah, no, I saw this.
	Yeah, it's not a great film.
	It's the one with Clive Owens.
	Yeah, but it's about this.
	It's a good film, and there's mafia in there as well, but it really shows you how the banks, really all they do is finance and traffic money for weapons.
	That's what they're there for.
	It was based on a true story, I think, actually.
	Wasn't it based on the BCI or whatever?
	Could be.
	Yeah, I think part of it was based on a true story.
	The bank commerce internet.
	Remember the big scandal?
	Yeah, I think it was BCI. These bankers are serious.
	I mean, this is huge.
	Billions and billions of dollars involved here.
	And they don't want to be, you know, you're messing with some nasty guys.
	I mean, the State Department is one thing.
	You don't want to mess with the banks, man.
	You're not pulling out any CIA secrets anyway, or anything that's important.
	And even if it was, it's already over.
	I mean, the book Legacy of Ashes has all that stuff.
	Hey, man, that's just not funny about us, man.
	Nobody cares that much.
	The bankers are doing it now.
	They don't need this aggravation.
	Alright, so I think that's enough about WikiLeaks.
	God, yes.
	Yeah, I'm kind of done with it.
	So I was out there, John, looking for anything else that could be going on.
	And there are a couple things.
	One is the passing in the Senate of the HR 501, which, of course, is the food safety law.
	Now, obviously, putting...
	The protection of our food squarely at the feet of homeland security, where food belongs.
	Let's be honest.
	So this is huge.
	This means they get to raid everybody, you know, organic.
	They're doing that now anyway.
	Right, but now the bill is passed in the Senate, although the House may block this over some procedural error.
	So I guess there are some good guys on the inside trying to turn that back.
	But look at S-510, Senate Bill 510, the food safety bill.
	We saw this coming.
	We saw it with the...
	Oh, all of a sudden, eggs are going to kill you.
	Oh, we've got salmonella everywhere.
	Oh, we have to protect the slaves.
	Oh, this would be very, very afraid.
	Oh, we need to protect you Americans.
	Oh, so now, Department of...
	By the way, make a note, that's the opening clip.
	Okay.
	But it's sickening that the Department of Homeland Security, which did not exist a few years ago, is now in charge of our food.
	This is the biggest overhaul of food in 70 years.
	What section does it give them any powers whatsoever?
	I thought it was all going to the FDA. Oh, no.
	No, no, no.
	It clearly states Department of Homeland Security.
	Oh, this is about our security.
	It's all about it.
	This is how it's being sold to you.
	It's not only the safety that, of course, this crap that is passed off as food is actually produced properly, which probably is a necessary evil at this point, but it's about someone putting poison into our food.
	Oh, no.
	It's Department of Homeland Security.
	And if you pull up S510 and just search for DHS, you'll see it.
	And we've been over this many times.
	So that was one.
	And by the way, plenty of links in the show notes.
	Noagendashow.com.
	So you can go follow up on that.
	A couple other things happening.
	And I'll get into this one later.
	The climate conference kicking off in Cancun, Mexico.
	Yeah, party town.
	Yeah, I want to keep that as a separate topic for a second half of the show.
	The one that bothered me the most was the report and the vote was supposed to come yesterday.
	In fact, it was a mandate on the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.
	It was a mandate that they had to have a vote by Wednesday, December 1st.
	And they, well, we're not quite ready.
	We'll do it on Friday, whatever.
	It's funny because if you go to the website, it still states, you know, no later than December 1st, you will have a report.
	So they released their report.
	And it was very, very boring.
	In fact, they had zero sound clips.
	But their report is fascinating.
	It's about 47 pages long.
	And this is, in fact, I think they did a very smart thing.
	Unlike Greece, unlike Ireland, unlike what is still to come, which is Portugal and Spain, and probably Germany and the United Kingdom and all of Europe, they didn't have government officials come out and say,''All right, slaves, listen up.
	Here's what we're going to do.
	You're all going to get screwed.'' No, instead, they had a bipartisan commission, which I pulled a couple of bios just for us to laugh at, a bipartisan commission who were installed as the sales guys to sell in what they call, and literally the report, John, is titled, The Moment of Truth.
	It could not get any funnier.
	And these are the austerity measures that are going to be put upon the American people.
	In fact, in the actual conversations which were televised on C-SPAN, which I watched in its entirety, sometimes they misspoke and would say, this bill instead of this report.
	Because this is the bill.
	They will take this report.
	They need 14 of the 18 members of the committee.
	14 votes.
	If they have the 14 votes, it gets introduced into Congress.
	And of course, it'll go back and forth.
	It'll change.
	It'll morph.
	They start at 47 pages.
	Watch it grow to 2,000.
	And in this thing, John, it's unbelievable.
	15 cent extra tax per gallon on gasoline.
	Well, you know, we know that government energy sources have to be sold at cost to the human resources.
	Well, we can't do that anymore.
	We're just going to have to charge more money for energy...
	I mean, and of course, the whole thing is clouded under this lie of, well, you know, we have to fix the social security, which is inherently broken.
	So, you'll work until you're 69.
	By the way, that's not you, John.
	This is the entire elitist...
	Fraction of the world, who is your actual generation, the baby boomers, covering their own ass so that they get out, and when they're sick and old and ill, they'll be taken care of, and people like me and my child will get screwed.
	Well, Mimi always likes to say that she's right on the wrong side of the line that's going to be drawn.
	Well, I certainly am.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're fucked.
	Yeah.
	But now let's...
	Yeah, totally.
	Thank you so much.
	But now let's just look at this...
	You can find it at fiscalcommission.gov.
	The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.
	And, you know, you can look there at the mandate.
	And it's all lies.
	Like, you know, there will be a report.
	There will be a vote.
	Which, you know, they just delayed it.
	Ah, we're not ready for the vote yet.
	Because they don't have all the votes, see?
	Because there's one or two people on there who are not completely with the program.
	So then I'm like, let me look at these members.
	Because, you know, this is supposed to be a bipartisan thing.
	So we've got Bacchus on there.
	We've got Tom Coburn, I think, is probably the guy who I like the most.
	And they went around the table at the final thing last night.
	And, you know, they're all congratulating each other.
	Your leadership is so great.
	You know, I'm like, you can have a bucket.
	Yeah, they overdo that.
	No, your leadership, your leadership.
	I want to thank you for your great, wonderful leadership and your pretty, too.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But listen to a couple of them.
	So they had not just all politicians on there, but on this committee, we had the true Minister of Defense, David Cody.
	Do you know who he is?
	No.
	Now you got me.
	He is the Chairman and CEO of Honeywell International.
	Who ran TRW as well.
	So this is the true Minister of Defense.
	So he's in there protecting the military-industrial complex's interests.
	Because it's all about the money.
	Whatever we do, let's not cut military spending.
	Yeah, we're going to cut security spending.
	Yeah, right, whatever.
	And now military spending is about...
	How many X times?
	I know it's more than twice as much as it was when we were fighting Russia.
	It's everything.
	If we just brought everyone home and stopped that bullshit, we wouldn't have a problem.
	Then we have Ann Fudge.
	Ann Fudge.
	What?
	Ann Fudge.
	Her name is Ann Fudge?
	Yes.
	And even funnier, she's African American, just to make it funnier.
	Ann Fudge, former CEO of Young and Rubicam.
	So she, of course, is the Ministry of Truth.
	She's the PR person.
	She's got to advise...
	Young and Rubicam, an accounting firm?
	No, Young and Rubicam is advertising.
	No, no, no.
	And she comes from a long line of Gitmo...
	She's the PR girl.
	GMO snacks.
	She comes from craft food.
	And she's also on the board of General Electric.
	I wonder if Ann Fudge is friends with Faith Popcorn.
	They should be.
	But she's on the board of General Electric.
	That makes sense.
	Of course.
	Then we've got...
	They're all interlinked.
	That's actually a good connection right there.
	That's the whole thing.
	Alice Rivlin, Senior Fellow of the Brookings Institute.
	Okay, nice.
	Then we've got Andrew Stern, the President Emeritus of the Service Employees International Union, the SEIU, a proven thief...
	And he, of course, is in charge of the Ministry of Slaves.
	And then I look at him, so I'm like, okay, so they've got all their shields in there.
	But then I'm like, you know, why don't I look at a couple of these other people?
	So we've got Senator, let me see, I think his name is, yes, Senator Mike Crapo.
	He is...
	Oh, Crapo.
	Crapo.
	Do you know who Mike Crapo is?
	I think we may have talked about him in the past.
	I don't, now off the top of my head, I don't recall him.
	Well, he is a direct descendant of the founders of General Motors.
	Direct descendant of the Crapo brothers who started General Motors.
	Okay, do you think there's any conflict of interest there?
	Nah.
	Nah.
	Then we've got one of the co-chairs.
	This guy was the funniest one.
	Erskine Bowles.
	Erskine Bowles.
	Nice name.
	And I'd never heard of this guy before.
	He was the chief of staff to President Clinton.
	Back in the day.
	By the way, he's from North Carolina, so there's a Bank of America connection there.
	And he's from Morgan Stanley, and as I said, he worked for Clinton, and he is a member of the Board of Directors of General Motors!
	Oh my gosh, it's amazing how can this be, this bipartisan commission?
	And then there's Alan K. Simpson.
	So much for Obama's boys not being all intertwined with the military-industrial complex and big business.
	Completely.
	Completely.
	So all you progressives out there, pay attention.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so the whole thing was filled with shills, and they come out with a report which is literally called The Moment of Truth, and it is exactly what Greece got.
	It's exactly what Ireland got.
	We're going to sell off our land, by the way.
	We're going to sell off our federal bill.
	It's the same thing.
	And I'm listening to this.
	And they're talking about all this money we owe.
	Actually, I saw Dennis Miller on...
	He had like a Thanksgiving Day thing.
	It was like an hour-long thing on HBO. It was a special.
	And he said something which I thought was kind of funny.
	He said, you know, we owe this money to people.
	Why don't we just say fuck him and just not pay him?
	That was kind of funny.
	And I'm thinking that because everyone talks about, you know, we owe the most money to China.
	We owe China the most money.
	It turns out that of the $9 trillion we owe, not even $4 million is owed to China.
	Or a trillion.
	A trillion, I'm sorry.
	Million.
	Trillion.
	So yeah, they are the biggest creditor.
	But it's not even half.
	And so who do we owe the rest to?
	Well, all these other foreign countries.
	But then everyone's like, all these countries are in trouble.
	I'm thinking, well, wait a minute.
	If everyone's in debt to everybody else, and now apparently China is also in financial problems, who actually lent us all this money?
	And the answer is quite simple.
	It is the international banks.
	And the banks are holding us hostage.
	And I think we should take a cue from Dennis Miller and say, fuck them.
	You're not getting your money.
	We don't owe it to China.
	We owe it to banks in China.
	We owe it to banks in Europe.
	We owe it to banks.
	Banks!
	The banks who run the...
	That is not going to happen, of course.
	No, of course not.
	Because we are the bank...
	We're also the bank.
	That's what's kind of overlooked in the equation of just saying no to the debt.
	We want to keep that debt because it's just money in somebody's pockets, many of whom are rich Americans.
	I mean, the fix is in on this deal.
	The problem is that the debt's not the issue.
	The issue is that we've got nobody working.
	The whole economy's in the toilet.
	It's going to stay that way for the next 10 years.
	They say so.
	They admit it more often than not.
	With the moment of truth memo, yes, it'll stay in the toilet for the next 10 years.
	Yeah, that's what they want.
	They're going to fire hundreds of thousands of government employees.
	Fire them, literally.
	Well, how's that going to help?
	I mean, I'm all for downsizing government, but that's going to help?
	They're not going to implement this thing anyway.
	No, of course they're not good.
	They're going to bitch about it forever.
	I will say that the Federal Reserve, and this, by the way, was the information that a Bloomberg reporter was killed over.
	I think, by the way, what I think you're going to discuss, which is the huge amount of money we've been giving overseas, is really one of the main things that was covered up by the WikiLeaks memo.
	Exactly.
	And it's over three trillion dollars.
	I heard it was nine.
	I mean, who knows what's true, right?
	This is the Wall Street Journal.
	But we gave it to Dexia AG, a Belgian bank.
	We gave it to Commerce Bank AG, a German bank.
	We gave it to Barclay PLC, the British Bank.
	We, John, you and I gave this money to foreign bankers.
	So is this not exactly the problem?
	This is exactly it.
	And I just want people, if you take away anything from this show, the illusion is being created that the boogeyman is out there and if we don't pay back the debt, we're going to get clobbered by him.
	Now, if we said to China, screw you, we're not paying you back, China's not going to come and invade us.
	They need us to buy their iPhones.
	You have to see it in a much larger perspective.
	But the banking system, these guys, and the system in general, which includes the Federal Reserve, which includes all central banks, they are really holding us hostage.
	You just need to keep that in mind, because that is the true problem of what's happening right now, is the monetary system.
	Gold, by the way, about to hit $1,400 once again today.
	Everything's relative.
	You could make more money investing in lead.
	I did get a nice note from, we have like three listeners in Get My Nation Stinky Cheese in France.
	And our buddy Tristan, because you know the soccer, the former soccer star said, hey let's do a bank run on December 7th.
	So Christine Lagarde, who looks like an elitist bitch, was interviewed in France.
	I put the link in the show notes so you can watch it if you understand French.
	But she basically said, he does his job, I do mine.
	I don't play soccer, I won't take the risk to try.
	It's not his first provocation.
	He is a great soccer player, that's not the reason to follow his every suggestion.
	Shut up, you slave!
	And everyone's all...
	That's not bad.
	Yeah, I'm pretty good.
	You should do the French again more often.
	Yeah, I'll try.
	I'll try.
	So, anyway, that's a lot of the stuff that was going on while everyone else was watching the WikiLeaks coverage.
	We were totally getting screwed, and the sales team is out there to sell you...
	Again, it was too boring to play, because no one talked for less than six minutes.
	But if you listen to how these guys are talking, it's like...
	You know, the American dream is not a Chevrolet or Cadillac.
	The American dream is not owning your own house.
	The American dream is passing on a better America to our children.
	Save the children.
	It's hard choices we've got to make now.
	We've been like, hey, we've got to stop this.
	We can't keep borrowing money to go kill brown people in other countries, which is disgust.
	No.
	Instead, Social Security has to change.
	We have to raise taxes, indirect taxes, by the way.
	We have to lower corporate taxes.
	Which makes sense.
	But we're going to raise the cost of living everywhere.
	That is what's hidden in this The Moment of Truth memo.
	Please go read this.
	Because this is what you'll be...
	If you're not going to deal with it, your kids will deal with it.
	And it was just disgusting to watch and all the back-slapping and the whole thing filled with shills and corporate interests made me nauseous.
	Well, don't forget the other overlooked story here, which...
	I actually have a clip on this, kind of.
	Which is our guy in Oregon.
	The patsy set up as the Al-Qaeda, you know, the bonehead, the idiot that was, like, worked by the FBI. Yeah.
	And that story is still developing.
	You got a clip?
	Well, I got the Judge Napolitano.
	Judge Napolitano, by the way, on Fox, is going to be...
	I don't know why.
	They put him on...
	Fox Business right across from O'Reilly.
	And they get on each other's shows, which is kind of odd.
	It's almost like they're competing with each other.
	They took him from the weekend to a daily show.
	It's just basically all about the Constitution and illegal, this and unconstitutional, that.
	And he has a lot of documentation to show that almost everything we're doing is essentially against the Constitution, unconstitutional, against the law, whatever.
	Right, right, right.
	And so he gets into these arguments, and he starts off with a clip from the O'Reilly show on this guy, where he's defending the guy, because the guy's been set up.
	And O'Reilly is just promoting, again like the rest of Fox, promoting thought crimes as an actual, you know, an instrument of justice.
	But just play the Napolitano.
	It's not the proper role of government.
	Because if government can do this to him...
	It can do it to anyone.
	If it is apparent, and I believe it will be, because I don't think Holder, a very liberal guy, the Attorney General, is going to put his neck on the line, alright, and saying, we didn't, we gave him out.
	But you still, and I believe you were telling the truth, you still, because you are a stubborn guy, would vote to acquit the man, even if the tape showed he wanted to kill these people, or a child molester wanted to rape the kids.
	I think I can add some color here because the attorney for this kid is saying, hey, you know, it's well known that the first contact you make with, certainly with someone who's 19 years old, the first contact is really important what's said there because you kind of lay the groundwork and that first contact Is where the recording equipment failed and now the attorney is asking the judge to mandate that the faulty recording equipment be brought in and examined what exactly
	went wrong.
	And I think that's what this conversation is about.
	Back it up just a little bit.
	Well, he goes on to say, I think Napolitano makes the point that what we're talking about here are thought crimes that O'Reilly's promoting as a good thing.
	If you are a stubborn guy, would vote to acquit the man, even if the tape showed he wanted to kill these people, or a child molester wanted to rape the kid.
	Wanting to do evil is not a crime.
	It is a thought.
	We don't punish them.
	The Supreme Court has ruled you wrong on it.
	Because you read half the quote.
	The rest of the quote is, if the government planted the seed in his mind, he's not guilty.
	You know what he is?
	He's the new Beck.
	Beck has to go because Beck has become crazy.
	He is crazy.
	Yeah, no, and I think this is the new Beck.
	That's why he's on.
	He's taking Beck's slot on O'Reilly, by the way.
	And this is all meant to just confuse your little brain.
	Well, it does that for sure, but the problem is he's on Fox Business, which nobody watches.
	And to replace Beck is so far down the road, I don't think he's going to be long for the network.
	No.
	Well, this is a two-part play.
	It's on the list of predictions.
	You now think that Napolitano is actually going to move up?
	Yes, I think he's going to move up.
	I think he's going to move out.
	I think, first of all, Fox Business News could use the ratings, so they need to cross-promote him.
	That's always important.
	But I watch Judge Napolitano from time to time, and I think he's the new Beck.
	I think he is the new guy.
	He has better credibility.
	Beck is played out.
	He's done.
	He's wasted.
	It's over.
	It's just, you know, he's published all his books.
	And he's repetitious.
	Completely.
	He's got too much money.
	And he's not a judge.
	He's not a judge.
	No, he's not even a college grad.
	Now, former representative Bob Barr.
	Bob, welcome.
	Do you want that?
	Do you want Bob Barr?
	Yeah, no, this is good, too.
	You know, Bob Barr's the guy who ran as the libertarian guy.
	He was an ex-congressman.
	He is kind of in the same camp as Ron Paul in terms of his thoughts.
	And you remember him.
	If you saw him, he's a very dull person, unfortunately.
	He's independent, right?
	Yeah, he's an independent.
	But he's a libertarian classic.
	One of the few guys that makes any sense at all.
	I like the guy.
	He makes sense here too.
	The Freedom Watch.
	You are not only a former member of Congress.
	You are the former United States Attorney for the District of Georgia.
	You are the former Chief Federal Prosecutor for the State of Georgia.
	You were also a prosecutor in President Clinton's impeachment trial.
	Question, Mr.
	Former Prosecutor, lover of the Constitution, how does the government decide who to target when it wants to set somebody up?
	Just interjecting here, John, because I liked your whole theme about thought crimes and that O'Reilly is basically propagating that.
	There is an actual thought crime department within DHS, Department of Homeland Security.
	Did you know this?
	Yeah, I think we talked about it before.
	I have a little bit of the commercial for their thought crime machine.
	Why don't you interrupt what we're doing and play it?
	This is their commercial.
	This is not Jeff Smith's commercial.
	No.
	Under the Future Attribute Screening Technologies, or FAST program, the Department of Homeland Security is developing innovative physiological and behavioral screening technologies to streamline the screening process at security checkpoints.
	Yay!
	This sounds good, doesn't it, Johnny Boy?
	I like it.
	Behavioral at checkpoints.
	In support of this program, Battelle has partnered with industry leaders, Farber Specialty Vehicles, and Draper Laboratories...
	Invest in those guys.
	...to design and develop a portable research facility for the development and demonstration of innovative security screening technologies.
	The Fast Demonstration Laboratory.
	The mobility of the fast demonstration laboratory allows security officials to quickly and efficiently establish security boundaries at any location, making it useful for everything from large sporting events, border crossings, or airports.
	Isn't this exactly what we predicted?
	The only thing that they're leaving out is school?
	Yeah, school's got to go in there, too.
	We need this at school.
	The screening mobile module provides a checkpoint to establish or supplement security facilities at points of entry.
	At special events, attendees pass...
	Special events.
	Special events, John.
	Like conferences.
	Super Bowl, too.
	Yeah, Super Bowl, sure.
	...through the screening mobile module.
	The unique low-floor trailer design ensures accessibility for all...
	So you can watch the whole video.
	What do you think this thing costs?
	Oh, it's going to cost tons.
	But it's not just for the government.
	It's for special events.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's for special events.
	You know, I was talking to a...
	We haven't had an incident for nine years.
	Not one crummy incident.
	In World War II, millions of people were killed.
	We didn't have this kind of crackdown on liberty.
	Millions.
	But it's not seen as a crackdown on liberty.
	It's seen as a boost up on revenues.
	I guess I'm just interpreting it.
	It's a boost up on revenues.
	It's how we're going to make tons of money.
	That's what it's about.
	It's this and the identity management industry.
	And by the way, that's what that whole moment of truth memo is about.
	Everyone was in there protecting their interests.
	Hey, okay, so let's make sure we don't mess with any of our weapons programs.
	Okay, that's good.
	Now let's just make sure that whatever we do, we just take the money from the slaves.
	That's all that's important.
	U.S. Embassy in Kuala Lumpur is now taking biometrics for people who apply for visas with palm scans.
	So that just kind of ups the ante.
	Ups the ante, yep.
	What I found fascinating is I got a picture emailed to me from the Department of Homeland Security.
	And it's someone's green card.
	They mail the green card in a Faraday cage envelope lined with, I guess, aluminum foil.
	And it actually says, we recommend use of this envelope to protect your new card and to prevent wireless communication with it.
	So there's proof that the Department of Homeland Security is using RFID technology to track people who have this card on them.
	And literally the envelope is, you can see the picture of the envelope.
	It's a picture with foil on the inside.
	And I know you should use this envelope to protect your new card, to prevent wireless communication with it.
	Until, of course, it's time for us to take a look at it, you stupid slave.
	Interesting.
	So, it's just rampant.
	It's just rampant.
	And of course, if we can have thought crime machines out there, John, which is what this, back to your clip, that's all the better.
	That's all the better.
	We just need more ways to make money on this.
	It's not even, people doing this don't even realize that they're infringing on basic human rights because they're exempt from it.
	They don't care.
	It's just about making money, tons of money.
	You want to go back to your clip?
	Yeah, I'll finish it off.
	Well, it's a complex issue, but one that the Supreme Court really needs to come to grips with, Judge, which is why I'm delighted that you've raised this very thorny issue, where you have a situation in which the government itself controls basically the entire scenario in which a would-be terrorist, or rather would-be criminal, is operating, and therefore the government...
	then they trumpet they found somebody and they thwarted this plot and so forth it defies logic they haven't thwarted anything they have simply given a press conference or news release about somebody that is entirely within their control where is the crime there well i agree with you i I mean, the actual charge against him, Bob, is attempting to ignite or explode a weapon of mass destruction.
	In fact, the truck that he thought he was going to explode was filled with something like sawdust.
	So it was not a weapon of mass destruction.
	It was actually, literally, physically impossible for him to have done what the FBI claims he thought he was going to do.
	So if you define crime as harm, and if there is no harm, why is Why is this guy in jail?
	For two reasons, essentially.
	One is because the war against mind-altering drugs has simply gotten out of control, and a lot of the laws, a lot of the cases that have allowed the entrapment defense to be essentially gutted are because of our zeal to prosecute drug cases over the years.
	Secondly, it's because of the hysteria that has gripped this nation, Judge, since 9-11, in which we seem to have a citizenry, by and large, and a compliant government that says basically anything that we do to protect you, the American people, anything that we do to get rid of terrorists the American people, anything that we do to get rid of terrorists
	So we wind up having essentially one set of constitutional concerns for terrorism cases in which the Constitution means nothing and another for other cases except for drug Here's where it really troubles me, and I said it to Bill O'Reilly last night, and we ran some of the incendiary parts of the interview in which Bill and I were going back and forth on this.
	The government targets people it hates, targets people it fears, or it targets an easy mark.
	But in all cases, it targets someone who causes no harm.
	Stated differently, if it could target this guy, it could target Bill O'Reilly or Bob Barr or almost anybody.
	Or John C. Dvorak, for that matter.
	Or Adam Curry.
	Yep.
	But that's okay, because I'm the crackpot.
	I'm already deemed crazy.
	And I'm going to go crazy on your ass in the second half of the show, just to prove it.
	Because that's the only way that I'm guaranteed to stay alive and not be arrested for trying to detonate some sawdust.
	These targets, the government induces them into their criminal activity over a course of years.
	It doesn't happen overnight.
	Why should the government be able to do this?
	Aren't there better things for the FBI to be doing to protect our freedoms?
	Yeah.
	I totally agree.
	And you watch Napolitano's rise?
	He's a rising star.
	I know media, John.
	This is how it works.
	He's a rising star.
	He's not...
	He might be, but I don't see him being a rising star on Fox, the way Fox is headed.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	He could be dropped over someplace else.
	I mean...
	I think he's a rising star.
	I think he is too, but I just don't see Fox's current thinking, the direction they're headed.
	You had that Megan clip, and the rest of it, they're just on the wrong side of the issues.
	Beck, notwithstanding, Beck is like his own animal, and he's just...
	Whatever he is.
	But he's wrong half the time or kind of nutty about stuff.
	I think it's time we should take our break.
	Well, so leading into that, you asked early on, you know, what is the deal with the media and why are they also on board?
	And I just had a...
	There was a very interesting article that I read titled, Does the CIA Control NPR and Other, Quote, Alternative Media?
	Yeah.
	And it's a very interesting read, and it's in the show notes, noagendashow.com.
	It talks about specifically NPR, your national treasure, with shows like Democracy Now!
	and publications like Mother Jones.
	And they lead a lot of this back to the financing of these organizations.
	And, of course, we focus mainly on how, certainly NPR and PBS are basically commercial entities and run commercials for huge organizations which have no business talking to the consumer, i.e.
	General Electric or Honeywell or, you know, who cares?
	Anyone watching those shows is not going to go out and buy a General Electric fridge.
	In fact, they're not promoting fridges.
	They're saying, hey, look at us.
	We're great.
	We never forget about who we're really working for.
	Which is to insinuate that they're working for you, the American people, but of course it's not.
	They're working for the elitist of the world.
	And then I come across one of the, you know who funds by far the most, and the government is just a little piece of NPR and PBS's funding.
	Do you know who is a huge donor?
	To PBS? To the National Treasure?
	Yeah.
	Who?
	The Ford Foundation.
	Oh yeah, no, the Ford Foundation is...
	That's a little weird.
	We have to actually, before you go talk about them too much, I want you to do a little research on them because they're a weird left-wing organization.
	Very weird.
	Very, very weird.
	And you have to wonder what their agenda is and how they're related to the corporate superstructure that runs everything.
	Because it's vague.
	They've got tons of money and they do have a lot of influence.
	I think it's like maybe it's a nothing to see here operation.
	I'm not sure.
	No, because I look at their board of directors, and they've got nothing but lobbyists in there.
	The Rock Creek Group from Washington, D.C. We've got the Vice Chair for Academic Affairs.
	We've got the Sonic Corporation.
	Who else do we have in here?
	Oh, Senior Director Goldman Sachs.
	These are all board members of Infosys.
	Okay, beautiful.
	East End Advisors LLC, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Known Eugenicists.
	So the whole board is filled with people who have deep, deep, deep connections to the workings of the country and certainly Washington.
	But when you go into their grants database at the Ford Foundation, and you just type in, you can search, you just type in radio.
	But you have to check the little box down at the bottom which says include non-initiative grants.
	I have no idea what that means.
	But when you click that, that's when, boom!
	It's like $3 million here, $4 million there, all to NPR, all to Association of Public Broadcasting Stations.
	There's page after page after page of hundreds of thousands, in some cases, here, National Public Radio, $3 million.
	This is just in this past year.
	Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars going into funding your national treasure.
	And they have some good tools there, John.
	We could follow the rules and apply for a grant.
	I'd take the money.
	They wouldn't give it to us in a million years.
	No, you wouldn't.
	You wouldn't take the money.
	I would.
	You really wouldn't.
	No, you wouldn't.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Because we have people who support this show out of the goodness of their heart and because we've really changed their lives.
	You realize one grant from these guys would be 10 years of the kind of money we're getting.
	Yeah, but then we'd be talking about this and it'd be like...
	Hey, Curry.
	I'm from the Ford Foundation.
	Yeah, let's just have a little chat here.
	We just want to talk to you for a few minutes about...
	Yeah.
	You know that story you guys were talking about?
	Yeah.
	The folks up at the office, they really feel that maybe you guys should just not be talking about that.
	It's just better for everybody that way.
	You know what I mean?
	Nice house you got here.
	You're renting, right?
	Yeah.
	It would be pretty unfortunate if you couldn't afford the rent anymore.
	Yeah.
	That would kind of suck.
	So no, John.
	So no, that's not it.
	You got it.
	You are the guy.
	Donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	I want to start off by bringing back into the picture Matt Lacey, who donated.
	He's one of the associate producers.
	He sent an email in.
	And what he wants to do is he wants to call out Chris Mayle for being a douchebag.
	Oh, wow.
	Douchebag!
	Hell yeah.
	Hopefully make him crack up during the takeoff landing procedures and get in trouble or something.
	If I get the Chinese ITM, I'll be in your debt.
	Oh, okay.
	There you go.
	You're in debt now.
	Session Wu, everybody!
	Session Wu.
	Okay, so, and he also has a few other things going.
	He's going to be in town at the cloud conference that's going on.
	I think it's coming up this coming week.
	The cloud conference.
	I should be out there with a cardboard sign.
	It's like, get off the cloud, you slaves!
	The cloud is evil.
	The end is nigh.
	John 16.
	John 16.
	We have a donation from Chris Engler, one of our regulars, from Milton, Ontario.
	John, this is 100% of the profits from the Red No Agenda Dice.
	Oh, great.
	100% of the profits.
	That's beautiful.
	$114 of dice.
	Kindly announced this batch has been ordered and should ship for January 2011 delivery.
	No Agenda Dice will be offering a third set in a different color.
	And those dice are great.
	They are nice.
	They're pretty.
	I think they should be cracked, though.
	I mean, they shouldn't be proper dice.
	It has the wrong numbers on it.
	Yeah, that would be funnier.
	Have one that's just all fives.
	All threes and all sixes.
	You chose seven every time.
	We had an anonymous donation of $100 from Madison, New Jersey.
	Christopher Collins, Tokyo, Japan.
	Hello, Tokyo.
	Second donation, thank you for the non-stop infotainment.
	Please send a birthday shout-out to my son, Tumble.
	Yeah, we got that.
	Is he on the list?
	Yeah, he's on the list.
	Jonathan Whitfield, San Francisco, California, first-time donor, apparently 55-55.
	Great show.
	It's depressing.
	No, it's not.
	It's not depressing.
	It's the height of humor.
	It's high humor.
	Yeah.
	But he says it's also entertaining, informative, and downright addictive.
	Plus, hearing Adam Curry laugh always makes me giggle, too.
	That's because it's genuine, because I'm really laughing.
	And I'm only 46.
	Imagine when I'm John's age.
	Daniel Hutner, Murphys, California.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	On Sunday, November 28th, my girlfriend and I took the BART train from Dublin-Pleasanton to Oakland to attend a Raider game.
	When I exited the train, I noticed three DHS, Department of Homeland Security, police.
	That's a new one.
	There's so many police agencies in the Bay Area, it's ridiculous.
	That's my commenting.
	Anyway, he says he was watching them with the crowd pass by.
	He asked the BART cop, another police agency, why there were Department of Homeland Security police in their jurisdiction.
	The answer I got was it was a condition of receiving federal funding.
	Wow.
	Huh?
	I said, wow.
	I said, wow.
	That makes total sense.
	It makes total sense.
	And anyway, Daniel's from Murphy's, California.
	Did you see that YouTube video of, I think it was Florida, of TSA doing checks at the bus station?
	No.
	I'll play that later.
	You'll love it.
	It's funny.
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	Rapid City, South Dakota.
	$55.
	I think I'm going to start another knighthood.
	I'm only 23 and want to start 2011 with the copious amount of karma.
	Well, let me get you started there, my friend.
	You've got karma.
	That's a little bit of extra.
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	Mean it.
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	Durden?
	I don't know.
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	He's still in the nighthood layaways on the fast track.
	And, whoops, I just clicked on something and I went to a different street.
	There we go.
	Where was I? There we are.
	You're at Kohei.
	And then we have Kohei, pronounced Kohei.
	Yes, Kohei.
	In Tokyo, Tokyo.
	Hello, Tokyo.
	He says, you mentioned, curiously, we have two donations from Tokyo this week.
	I had John and Adam, and you mentioned there's zero donors from Tokyo.
	I mentioned a couple of people, Americans in Tokyo.
	But I subscribe monthly, 3333, which I began in July from Tokyo.
	I just wanted to make sure my donation wasn't funding some wrong guy.
	Hey, you know, your sumo thing paid off, John.
	You mentioned sumo in the last show.
	Sumo in Japan is pretty much a corrupt sport, like the EU soccer, you guys told me.
	No kidding!
	Yeah, same thing.
	There isn't the huge money involved, since it's not an Olympic game, but it should be, by the way.
	But it's known history.
	Sumo industry is deeply tied in with the Japanese Yakuza, and there was a recent gambling scandal.
	We know most of this.
	If you follow sumo, we follow it religiously.
	I do, actually.
	We used to follow sumo quite closely.
	Sumo Association must take more severe action against the scandals, and pretty much the Yakuza runs every gambling gig in Japan, and most of the gambling facilities are owned by immigrants from North Korea.
	All right.
	What, there's gambling going on over there?
	I understand so, yes.
	And the families send whatever they make here in Japan to their relatives in North Korea.
	I didn't know about the North Korean connection, so we'll have to...
	It says some of the banks are controlled by the North Korean government.
	No.
	No.
	Say it ain't so.
	And that's it for this week's donors.
	I just want to thank everyone.
	All right.
	Happy birthday to Michael Menzies.
	His birthday was on the 27th, and Christopher Collins wishes his son Tomomi, turning 10, on the 5th of December a very happy birthday.
	And, of course, the same from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	And before you continue with the pitch, in the morning, Adam, I was associate executive producer for episode 255.
	I am in need of both dedouching and karma, please.
	I guess John missed it.
	I moved from Norway to Australia for a job.
	Then 11 weeks in, they have retrenched me.
	As they say, they cannot afford my position.
	So I am up shit creek, total paddleless, totally paddleless, philiphanous.
	Philip Smith.
	Anyway, love the show.
	It keeps me sane.
	So we're going to give him a little bit of karma.
	There we go.
	It's all fine.
	You've got karma.
	So I don't know if you actually missed it or not, but I want to make sure we...
	I think I missed where he moved to and maybe that story.
	I want to mention just a $10 donation that came in because it's kind of interesting.
	I think people should pick up on this from Steam and Sauna, Inc.
	in Kennesaw, Georgia.
	He got a refund from the Clinton Haiti Fund.
	What?
	And he's giving it to you.
	You'll do more good with it than the scumbags will.
	How did he get a refund?
	I guess he asked for it.
	He must have done it through his credit card or something.
	I don't know.
	Interesting.
	I guess you can get refunds for everyone out there who donated.
	Get a refund.
	Yeah.
	Hell yeah.
	Oh man, that's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, thank you so much.
	We appreciate it.
	It's been a long time coming, John, but I need you to draw your blade here for a second.
	Here it comes.
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	We deconstruct the news and we deconstruct people who deconstruct the news and we're always one step ahead.
	And we're still one step ahead.
	And without a doubt, once you learn how to do it, you can't just go to a cocktail party and say, Hey man, the Kim's trailing us with aluminum!
	It doesn't quite work that way.
	Well, you could do that.
	You sound like the tech grouch.
	Well, you've got to be subtle about it.
	First, you've got to change...
	You've got to change your ringtone.
	Oh, excuse me.
	I have an important call.
	Oh, it's my ringtone.
	You've got to kind of ease people into it.
	But since Haiti was brought up, I do want to...
	There's a couple links, of course, in the show notes at noagindashow.com.
	Of course, the elections in Haiti, which are now between three people...
	They voted on Sunday.
	They have until, like, December...
	I think, no, January to count the votes.
	But there was, you know, people were, like, really angry.
	And, of course, no one's there.
	Anderson, Vanderbilt, Cooper, not there to talk about the elections.
	No, we've got to be quiet.
	Let's not talk about the elections.
	Because we have Jude...
	Judas, who is Preval's protege, as the news continues to call him.
	Outgoing President Preval's protege, Jude.
	He's the front row.
	He, of course, is the guy that's going to get it.
	Then we have sweet Nikki Martelli, who was just a shill thrown in there.
	And we've got some 70-year-old woman who's probably the real candidate.
	Oh!
	Yeah, yeah.
	Someone else popped up.
	I missed this.
	Yeah, let me bring up the story for you.
	It's kind of interesting because I had not seen her name anywhere in any of the documentation.
	I'm like, oh, wait a minute.
	Who is this person?
	And I think that that's why they delayed the election results.
	But, of course, the U.N. peacekeepers who are now officiating the election say, hey, we give the green light.
	Everything's good.
	Yeah, it's all set.
	Don't worry about it.
	We've taken care of everything.
	Of course, the place is gripped by cholera, traumatized by the earthquake.
	Amazing earthquake, first time in 90 years that's ever happened.
	So it's Jude Celestine.
	And every single news report, you'll see this meme, the protege.
	What does that mean, protege?
	He's not a ballerina.
	No, no.
	Your protege is anybody, it could be anybody, that models themselves after you.
	You could have a couple of proteges, for all you know, that you maybe mentor or maybe you don't.
	They just model themselves after you.
	And so there's somebody that likes what Adam Curry does and they want to be the next Adam Curry.
	That's a protege.
	Right.
	Celestine, who was plucked from obscurity by Prevel to run the government road construction entity after the earthquake, so this guy didn't even show up until after they flipped on the earthquake machine, enjoyed the full use of the powerful Ignite Party machine during the campaign, so that makes sense.
	But then we have Martelli, who's a 49-year-old.
	I'm reading the Times...
	Now, a popular performer of Haitian Kampa music.
	He's been running third, apparently, in the polls because there is this woman, Manigat, who is 70 years old, and I think she's the true candidate.
	Of course, she has not a chance in hell of winning.
	But the peacekeepers out there, they say, hey, you know what?
	We checked everything.
	And even though no one has ID cards and we've got a million people in tents here who, you know, they got no money.
	They got no clothing.
	They got no food.
	They got no water.
	They got water filled with cholera.
	But all that cash went to Clinton and Bush.
	Don't worry.
	It's all taken care of because it's all good.
	Just shut up.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Don't look over here.
	WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks.
	Go look at something else.
	Actually, I have a clip from a guy from the Red Cross who's on the ground there.
	Yeah, it's really difficult, John.
	It's really difficult rebuilding Haiti.
	There's all kinds of problems there.
	I think in the context of how difficult it is to secure land, and then to secure land that you can actually build on.
	Listen, to secure land.
	No, listen carefully, John.
	You'll get this.
	To secure land that you can actually build on.
	There is a sense that here we are happy with what's been achieved, but it barely scratches the surface in terms of the needs in this city.
	I mean, you've seen it.
	You've driven around.
	You've seen the fact that most people are still living in tents.
	How can that be?
	How can most people still be in the tents?
	Didn't we have a whole benefit, John?
	Didn't we have, like...
	Didn't we send billions of dollars over there?
	One of the major reasons...
	Behind that is that finding land to actually build shelters on has proven to be incredibly complicated.
	Why is that?
	Very good question.
	Why is it very complicated?
	Be serious with me now.
	Why is it difficult to find land to build on, John?
	Because the UN took over most of it.
	Thank you.
	Difficult.
	There are issues over the fact that, well, first of all, this is a very congested city.
	This city built up dramatically over the last 25 years and is riddled with slums.
	I mean, let's call it what it is.
	So there's not much land available.
	It's very difficult to prove ownership of land.
	Oh!
	Oh, really?
	Oh, I see.
	It's difficult to prove ownership of land because all the hotels and casinos are being built on that land.
	That's why.
	They don't need any slaves living on the land.
	This land, for example, we've been negotiating really since almost...
	Who were you negotiating with?
	The first couple of months after the earthquake.
	With the mayor to secure land to build shelters here.
	Right.
	About a month ago, it becomes clear to us that it's actually not owned by the local mayor or the municipality.
	But why did he say that earlier to you?
	He didn't know?
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	I'm just from the Red Cross.
	Who knows?
	Well, wait a minute.
	They cut him off when you say it's owned by, and then they cut him off.
	What's the sentence?
	It doesn't come.
	Wait.
	Who knows?
	You don't know why.
	The government can say, like, well, you know, enough with the bickering, let's just grab this land and just build.
	Why don't they just build?
	That's a better question.
	I'm sorry, I don't mean to be evasive, but that's a better question to ask to the government or to the industry.
	The very first step you have to take in any construction process anywhere in the world, be it the Netherlands, be it Australia, be it Haiti, is to have some kind of legal assurance that you're doing something that can continue for the years that this is needed.
	So can you believe what is going on now?
	Now this is the reason, according to the Red Cross, who of course took all that money and put it in their pockets and have great offices, beautiful limousines, it's all perfectly taken care of.
	Yeah, your mind does not go directly through the Red Cross into Haiti.
	Well, we can't actually build anything because we can't figure out who owns the land.
	So, well, screw them.
	How can it take a year to figure out where to build something?
	They have 12, no, 20,000 UN peacekeepers there.
	Can't they just, like, take a piece of land and say, well, for now, we're just hijacking this because people got to have pretty water?
	Well, you know, in this country, which we have all kinds of backstop mechanisms, including title insurance, to own land and to make sure that you can buy and sell it so you don't have a problem with, you know, like you do in third world countries of actually owning anything, which has always been seen as one of the reasons countries can't develop is because nobody can really have ownership of anything.
	If you can take property like you can do here for the public good, you can just go grab some property as a state entity.
	Of course.
	Why can't you just grab all of it in Haiti and just start doling it out to these people?
	Because it's owned by the hotels and casinos that are being built there.
	That's why.
	The guy's not going to say it, but that's why.
	You've got to ask.
	So is this an average home here?
	Yeah, this is the units that we're building here.
	The transitional shelters that we're building here.
	Yeah, three rooms.
	It's about 18 meters square.
	As you can see, it's secured against hurricanes.
	People looking at this, they gave their money and they're frustrated.
	What would you say to them?
	This just takes time.
	Yeah, and you know what?
	We understand the frustration, and the frustration is shared by the Red Cross, by Oxfam, by MSF, by all agencies.
	The frustration is acutely felt, but our frustration doesn't compare with the frustration of people living outside in camps.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Duh!
	Anyway, so it's a land ownership issue.
	So Oxfam gets $100 million and then they use it for administrative costs where they try to work this out.
	And then all of a sudden they spend it all 10 years later.
	So, you know, now that Clinton released his numbers, I'm now keeping a very close eye on the Clinton-Bush-Haiti fund.
	Which you can find at ClintonBushHaitifund.org because they are a 5013C and they will have to release information.
	But if you look at their website, it is pathetic.
	Absolutely pathetic.
	The lack of information they put on that site.
	Especially if you go to the FAQs.
	And here it is.
	How much money has been donated so far to the Clinton-Bush-Haiti Fund?
	How much do you think, John, as of September 30, 2010?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Just take a wild guess.
	How much?
	$10 million.
	$52 million.
	Do you believe that?
	Does anyone actually believe that's all the money?
	I mean, the Netherlands alone raised $100 million.
	So I think people should ask for refunds and send us the money.
	Yeah.
	We're doing more for Haiti than anyone else is.
	Well, at least we're complaining about it.
	That's for sure.
	All right, let me roll out this TSA checkpoint at the bus station report, which is hilarious because, of course, you always got to bring in one guy who's taken the bus, and what do you think his opinion is of the TSA? Can I guess?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Well, you know, if it means you're going to be safer, it's just one of those things you're going to have to put up with.
	Not even close.
	Not even close.
	It's much better than that.
	Let's listen to the report, John.
	Our Tampa police and federal government agencies are teaming up to keep your family safe.
	They unveiled a new plan that could stop a potential terror threat where hundreds of people pass through each day.
	Bill Logan was there for a first-hand look.
	So this will be your first one, Tom?
	It's the sort of security we've seen a lot of since 9-11 at places like airports and seaports and major sporting events, now here at the bus station.
	To sort of invent the wheel in advance in case we have to.
	Inventing the wheel in advance in case we have to.
	Huh?
	This is the TSA guy.
	We're inventing the wheel in advance so we don't have to something or other, I don't know, terrorism, blow-up, safety, children, fear.
	If there ever is specific intelligence requiring us to be here, this way us and our partners are ready to move in at a moment's notice.
	What we're looking for are threats to national security as well as immigration violators.
	We're also looking at one of our main initiatives, which is bulk cash.
	Oh, okay.
	We're also looking for people smuggling cash on the bus.
	Okay.
	What?
	Yeah, didn't you hear him say that?
	Yeah, but why?
	Because you can't have cash, man.
	You can't have cash.
	Smuggling cash on the bus?
	Smuggling cash on the bus.
	Stop smuggling cash, John.
	Also looking at one of our main initiatives, which is bulk cash smuggling.
	And so passengers ready to head toward Orlando, Jacksonville, and Points North had to go through a series of checks while Susu from the Tampa Airport Police...
	Susu is the dog.
	Department gave the bus his sniff test.
	It's all part of what Homeland Security calls Viper for visible...
	Ah, Viper!
	Viper!
	I love it.
	We have another acronym.
	Viper.
	The Viper's out to get you.
	The Viper's going to snap at you.
	For visible intermodal prevention and response.
	I can't even spell.
	That's Viper.
	What?
	It's Viper.
	That's Viper.
	It's Viper.
	Yeah, they're big on initials.
	In this team effort between TSA, ICE, CBP, and TPD. This is ongoing for us.
	We do this every day.
	And for the folks who travel...
	All right, here it comes, John.
	You weren't even close.
	Listen to the folks who travel...
	Like this, day in, day out, it's a comfort in troubled times.
	I feel safe knowing that I get on the bus and I'm not going to blow up.
	What an idiot.
	I'll feel safe.
	That's your American man on the street.
	The bus is going to blow up.
	This is our educational system at work.
	I don't want the bus to blow up.
	It's not like this sort of security is going to be on display at every bus terminal every time.
	But the message here is, it could be...
	Adam, stop, stop.
	How many buses have been blown up in the United States in the last 50 years?
	I don't know, man, but I feel safe that my bus ain't going to blow up.
	Like my Christmas tree.
	Makes sense.
	Yeah, you know.
	I just don't want anything to blow up.
	Alright, so what is probably taking place right now, which was probably the most emailed article, was NASA setting up a news conference, and this is the next distraction.
	I'm sure people in the chat room have their eye on it.
	They're like, oh, NASA's going to announce that there's intelligent life forms out there!
	Yeah.
	Another dumb move.
	Meanwhile...
	It's the face on Mars all over again.
	The true news is happening in my favorite spot, John.
	In Yemen.
	Yemen.
	Yemen.
	Yep.
	I've been telling you about the Stargate, and after all of the earthquakes...
	Ooh, Stargate's back.
	Yeah, after all the earthquakes, now there is a vortex...
	There is a vortex that is so severe it is actually disturbing the jet stream.
	Would you listen to me for a second?
	I'm very serious about this.
	I'm listening.
	There is now a vortex.
	Okay, okay.
	Do you know that...
	Let me tell you what navies are in the Gulf of Aden.
	The Royal Australian Navy.
	The Belgian Navy.
	The Belgian Navy?
	Yeah, I guess they found the coal.
	They bring the rowboat?
	I mean, what?
	The Bulgarian Navy, Canadian Navy, People's Liberation Navy, that's China, the Royal Danish Navy, the French Navy, the German Navy, Greek Navy, Indian Navy, Islamic Republic of Iran's Navy, Italian Navy, Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, Republic of Korea,
	South Korea's Navy, Royal Malaysian Navy, Royal Dutch Marines in their Navy, Pakistani Navy, Portuguese Navy, Royal Saudi Navy, Russian Navy, Republic of Singapore, Sweden, Spain, Thailand, Turkey, the British Royal Navy, and the United States.
	Wow!
	It sounds like a party!
	It is!
	And they've been there for months under the guise of pirates.
	I mean, if I was a pirate, I'd be pooping right now.
	There's no pirates going to go.
	And if you see the pictures of all these, they've got subs, they've got aircraft carriers, they've got ships, because they know that the Stargate is opening up.
	And we had those 60 earthquakes in the Gulf of Aden.
	Now we have the vortex, which is literally coming from out of the Gulf, is disturbing the jet stream, and the proof is in the pudding.
	Look at Europe.
	Completely snowed under.
	It's pandemonium once again.
	Britain, snowed under.
	Gitmo Nation Lowlands, snowed under.
	The biggest traffic jams in history.
	Because the jet stream has been disturbed by this vortex.
	Severe, severe weather, which, by the way, is not moving the way that the biodiversité people have been telling us.
	It's not getting warmer, it's getting colder.
	You're just met with this kind of thing.
	You're right.
	I'm the one that's going to be set up.
	Totally.
	I have to come up with something wackier.
	Well, it's not wacky.
	I think there is something going on there.
	And by the way, you know what happens when that Stargate opens up?
	You know what comes out?
	Tell me, John.
	Fish.
	Well, we could do with some good fish.
	We could totally do with it.
	Alright, so the Climate Change Conference is another thing obfuscated by the WikiLeaks.
	Scandal!
	And this, of course, falls under the heading...
	Biodiversité!
	Hey!
	Remember to say it loud and proud.
	It's Biodiversité.
	And two reports.
	The most important one, as reported by the Telegraph from the United Kingdom, who, of course, in great harmony with the...
	Royal Academy, was it the Royal Society?
	This is the mouthpiece.
	Whenever something important comes out for the slaves, the Royal Society, oh, it's the Royal Society, they've told us.
	John, if the Royal Society says, then it must be completely true.
	Scientists call for rationing in the developed world at the Cancun Climate Change Summit.
	Why?
	Well, I will explain.
	Because the Royal Society has told us.
	In a series of papers published by the Royal Society, No, no, no.
	What do we have to do?
	Well, in one paper, Professor Kevin Anderson, director of the Tyndall Center for Climate Change Research...
	The what?
	The Tyndall.
	Oh, there's a tingle.
	Might as well be.
	He said the only way to reduce global emissions enough while allowing the poor nations to continue to grow is to halt economic growth in the rich world over the next 20 years.
	This would mean a drastic change in lifestyles for many people in countries like Britain, as everyone will have to buy less carbon-intensive goods and services, such as long-haul flights and fuel-hungry cars.
	I think you should take the train, Sleif.
	That's a good idea.
	Now, Professor Anderson admitted it would not be easy to persuade people to reduce their consumption of goods.
	He said politicians should consider a rationing system similar to the one introduced during the last time of crisis, which was the 30s and the 40s.
	This could mean, attention, Gitmo Nation East.
	Attention, attention, slaves.
	Here it comes.
	A limit on electricity, so people are forced to turn the heating down.
	This is exactly what we've been predicting with the smart grid technology.
	In this weather?
	Yes, you have to turn it down, turn off the lights, replace old electrical goods like huge fridges with more efficient models, and food that has traveled from abroad may be limited, and goods that require a lot of energy to manufacture.
	This is what is coming.
	Your electricity is going to be limited.
	You're going to be rationed.
	That's why they're putting those smart meters in.
	That's exactly why it is.
	That's exactly why it is.
	But I think there was a quote here somewhere that was funny.
	I can't seem to find it.
	I think the guy said, you know, we'll just put on a jumper.
	Wear a sweater.
	Hey, slave, shut up and wear a sweater.
	Where are more layers?
	And then the experts say global warming could double food prices by 2000.
	It all kind of fits together with Codex Alimentarius, with what we have here in the United States.
	How is global warming going to make food go higher prices?
	It seems it's going to make more land arable.
	This doesn't make any logical sense.
	Well, would you like me to read the report for you?
	No, I don't want to hear any more.
	Oh, come on.
	Even if we stop spewing global warming gases today, the world would face a steady rise in food prices this century.
	But of course it will, because you've got all these regulations we now have to adhere to.
	You've got the Department of Homeland Security checking to make sure you're doing it right.
	So of course the prices are going to rise.
	On our current emissions path, climate change becomes the threat multiplier, this is a nice meme, that could double grain prices by 2050 and leave millions more children malnourished.
	This is what they reported on Wednesday, the global food experts in Cancun, Mexico.
	So remember how much focus there was on Copenhagen?
	And there's none of it now.
	And I think this is another thing that WikiLeaks is distracting from.
	Harrison Ford, by the way, was not in Cancun.
	They have a, apparently, a number of people that showed up for the second event, the one in Cancun, is way down, because I think they've lost a lot of their mojo.
	Especially, and they had to have it in Cancun, of course, because the last time they had this stupid event...
	It snowed.
	It was snowing.
	The global warming event was snowed out.
	Yeah.
	Hey, man, let's move that shit to Mexico, man, where it's like hot.
	There's no chance of snow there.
	And that's it this week for our...
	Keeping our eye on the biodiversity so you don't have to, hey.
	I've got real news.
	Oh, well, hold on a second.
	It's Thursday.
	Hold on.
	And now, back to real news.
	Can I just go straight into it, John?
	As you know, go.
	Extra, extra.
	Extra, extra.
	Extra exclusive Mariah's first interview seems confirming she's pregnant.
	He's going to find out before the girl.
	Her cravings, the pregnancy power.
	I can't even get this written off if I try.
	And why she's dripping in diamonds.
	New video that could wipe the smile off Tigra's face.
	On order, the tiger scandal.
	Who winds up murdered?
	Michael Douglas as Liberace.
	Michael's new interview about his next movie, his health, and battling his ex over millions.
	Extras in Paris with Brangelina.
	Brad rocking leather pants, the star he wants to babysit his kids.
	A huge, huge hit in my house.
	And Johnny Depp on the Angelina you don't know.
	Very perverse sense of humor.
	Plus, Natalie Portman on that early Oscar buzz and that same-sex kiss.
	You say, okay, let's just have a couple of glasses of wine and get it over with.
	Woo!
	Woo!
	John!
	You know, you just take one random teaser from any of these shows and you got it.
	You're caught up.
	You're up to date.
	Well, not quite, John, because I have been tracking the Hollywood Whacker story.
	Ah, the Hollywood Whacker story gets more interesting.
	It does get more interesting, and I've spoken to a few PR folks here in Los Angeles, in these hills of Hollywood.
	So first of all, I'm sorry.
	And before you go, did you get, you know, Randy Quaid has chimed in on this.
	Yes, I was going to start with Randy Quaid in Vanity Fair.
	Oh, I'm sorry, you have a clip?
	No, I got no clip.
	Randy Quaid, he and his wife Evie, are in Vanity Fair, and they say, you know what, they've figured all of this out.
	They predict they'll be hanged, stabbed, or drugged with Demerol.
	I think this was in Esquire.
	No, Vanity Fair.
	I have it from Vanity Fair.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	No, you're right.
	I'm sorry.
	It's Vanity Fair and Esquire.
	You're right.
	The Quades outlined for Esquire three scenarios.
	Randy would be drugged in his sleep, Evie would be stabbed to death, and the knife would be placed in Randy's hands.
	They'll be found in their car dead from lethal doses of Demerol or they would be hanged together from the rafters of a garage.
	All very valid.
	I am not laughing at this.
	I don't think it's funny at all.
	I totally believe that Randy Quaid is worth more dead than alive.
	He won't get a movie at all at this point.
	No, he's toast.
	But he's an Oscar winner.
	He's won several awards, and he's made over $41 million, and he has huge trust set up, which is former manager, agent, set up.
	And I see no reason why it will be beyond the realm of possibility, as Evie overheard a cell phone conversation.
	That if she were killed and Randy was killed, there'd be a lot of money in it.
	Because all these trusts are set up and will flow through to people who set them up.
	That's what they're claiming, and I don't think it's that crazy.
	This is what Michael Jackson went through.
	He said, if they kill me, it'll be for my catalog.
	They killed him.
	And they got the catalog.
	They got the catalog.
	Beatles on iTunes, new Michael Jackson album out, everything's rocking and rolling.
	And so what happens when...
	Biggest moneymaker last year totaled $275 million, dead.
	So I think I'll actually go for the last option on the board, Alex.
	I'll say hang together from the rafters of the garage.
	I think that they'll be...
	Suffering from depression.
	Yeah, depression, and they will kill themselves, and that will be the end of it.
	Suicide note found.
	Yep.
	Now, regarding the public, and I put a whole list of links in the Hollywood Whackers file at the show notes, noagendershow.com.
	I totally believe, first of all, mafia.
	No doubt about it.
	In fact, someone showed me the Urban Dictionary entry for Mozambique, which is apparently what she was.
	Two to the chest, one to the head is that you were Mozambique-ed.
	And, of course, she got, I think, three to the chest, one to the head.
	So I would say that was a double Mozambique.
	But definitely, I think everyone agrees that Ronnie Chasen, publicist for many, many years in Los Angeles, was killed.
	The question is, who to what end?
	Now, the whole thing is being covered up.
	It had to be covered up by the news that came out late last night that the police were investigating a, quote, person of interest.
	In a sleazebag hotel.
	There's not even a sleazebag hotel.
	It's rooms for $675 a month.
	That's not completely sleazebaggy, I'll have to say.
	It's not the worst you can get in California, in Los Angeles.
	And they came in with a search warrant.
	The guy immediately shot himself in the head.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that sounds right.
	Well, so here is, I'm going to read verbatim.
	And by the way, if he shot himself in the head, and he's dead now, and it was a suicide, they say, why are they not releasing his name?
	Who is it?
	What is the point of keeping the name quiet?
	What exactly?
	Well, the reason why it's being kept quiet is because this needs to go away.
	It needs to go away because mafia is involved.
	Now, I've spoken to several publicists here in Los Angeles, and the general whisper word out there is that Ronnie Chasen, who is old school Hollywood, she's been around for a long time, that she had very, quote, dark connections with the mafia.
	And this was some kind of payback or some kind of mess-up, screw-up, and it was just the way the mafia does business.
	What?
	You're not going to play?
	Boom.
	You're dead.
	We'll kill you.
	What is interesting is she was doing the promotion for Burlesque, right?
	And Burlesque is being...
	And she was shot on the day of that roll-up party.
	Yeah, the premiere party.
	So, the director on this is, what's his name?
	Anton.
	Let me just get his first name here.
	Director, Anton.
	I don't recall his first name.
	Well, let's look it up.
	Okay.
	Everything's a little slow here today.
	Stephen Anton.
	Okay.
	Now, Stephen Anton is a rookie.
	This is his first huge, huge...
	In fact, although not a very big hit, and this I'm sure has something to do with it, Burlesque was a very expensive movie to make.
	Has Cher in it, Christina Aguilera.
	And he got this gig, one of the most expensive films in the history of Screen Gems.
	And The Hollywood Reporter came out With the entire story.
	So how did Steven Anton get this gig?
	Well, he is the boyfriend of Clint Culpepper.
	Who is another Hollywood legend and was brought back to run Screen Gems.
	And apparently, and this is what the Hollywood Reporter wrote, they had huge fights, like cat fights, like bitch fights on the set.
	Angry, like there was all kinds of craziness going on.
	And of course the movie goes on to flop.
	It's pretty much, you know, it was number five I think on the opening weekend.
	Harry Potter killed everything.
	It flopped and the word is that Ronnie Chasen leaked the information about this cat fighting and crap going on covering her ass because she knew that the movie was a dog and it was essentially, and here it is, a gay mafia hit.
	This is getting good.
	And that Culpepper had her killed purely out of spite.
	He was just pissed off.
	And of course, it's a huge black mark on his career.
	The most expensive movie in Screen Gems history.
	His boyfriend, who he ushered in to direct it.
	Huge flop, and I guess she's getting blamed.
	She literally took the fall for it, but apparently she was the one that started to cover her ass by leaking the information about, hey, this thing is a dog, even though I'm hired to do it, but she leaked to the Hollywood Reporter.
	And this is inside from PR agents in Hollywood.
	The people you're hanging out with now.
	I don't hang out with them.
	So, he did one other movie in 2006, a direct-to-video film that has a 5.5 out of a 10 rating called Glass House, The Good Mother, which I guess was another, with Angie Harmon as a star, and we haven't heard anything about her since.
	And other than that, he apparently was an actor, and he's been in a jillion NYPD blue back in the 90s.
	Oh, he's a pretty man, I'm sure.
	And the rest of it's pretty sketchy.
	I mean, it's not like I would give him a director's job in the most expensive movie that he ever did.
	Not a conservative choice, let's put it that way.
	So, of course, the news coming out about a person of interest killing themselves in front of the cops who were looking for him, that doesn't jive at all with what I've been hearing.
	So I have no idea where that's coming from.
	I don't know what it's about, and I don't understand it.
	Well, maybe they're looking for a fall guy, and they haven't gotten their story together yet.
	Well, the guy killed himself for a reason, that's for sure.
	Maybe nobody killed themselves.
	Maybe that's the setup.
	Now we've got to figure out who to kill and then make a story around it.
	Right.
	I mean, it's possible.
	But I am not laughing at the Quades.
	I feel for them.
	I think it's horrible.
	I called Michael Jackson.
	I called his death a murder.
	Mainstream media hung up on me.
	By the way, this guy was also the boyfriend of David Geffen.
	Yep, exactly.
	Geffen, known gay mafia.
	David Geffen's pretty ruthless.
	Well, he gets the job done.
	I just think the idea of gay mafia is like, take that bitch!
	Snap!
	Snap!
	Yeah.
	Mr.
	Curry?
	Are you Adam Curry?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Adam's not here, man.
	He's not here.
	I promised one more two to the head story.
	We talked about it last week.
	Got no coverage whatsoever.
	But the actual BP executive who was in charge of all operations in the Gulf was killed in a small plane crash off the Florida coast now over a week and a half ago.
	And he was the guy in charge of the recovery.
	Oh, really?
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, I vaguely remember that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, you just got to, it's unfortunate, and I have not looked into, of course, no one has looked into what happened, how did the accident take place, you know, it was just, killed in a crash, small plane.
	It's a small plane.
	John, no need to, are you a journalist?
	It's a small plane.
	Oh, small plane crash.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	I just didn't have the time to dig into it and see what the cause was.
	But it is the favorite means of killing people.
	Oh, small plane.
	You know how it goes.
	You can't trust those small planes, can you, John?
	No, they're dangerous.
	Completely dangerous.
	Especially if somebody's trying to kill you.
	Yeah.
	There was another funny story in the...
	Maybe I should play the jingle, actually.
	I don't know where the jingle is.
	We haven't played the Trains Good, Planes Bad in so long that I can't find it here.
	All aboard!
	Trains Good, Planes Bad!
	Woo-hoo!
	I thought the funniest joke was about the aircraft that went into a nosedive and taken for total truth is that, well, the captain, the pilot as some would call him, went to the restroom and the co-pilot was adjusting his seat and hit the steering column and it went into a 26,000 foot nosedive.
	God!
	Please!
	Well, yeah, here's what happened.
	He wasn't hooked up to the seatbelt.
	He pushed the thing forward.
	The plane dropped.
	The nose dropped down.
	He fell onto the controls and couldn't get up.
	Actually, I'm sorry.
	It was 37,000 feet.
	He fell for 37,000 feet.
	He couldn't get up.
	He was just stuck on these things.
	Of course, everybody rolled into the cabin and fell on top of him.
	And so he was jammed on top of the steering mechanism down, which dives the plane.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Not a pretty sight.
	It's total bull crap.
	These things are on autopilot up there.
	And I don't know the specific configuration of this aircraft, but I'm pretty sure when autopilot is on and you push it, it will correct.
	It doesn't just go, oh, disengaging!
	No, you have to physically...
	Every autopilot I've flown with, you can push it down, you can override it manually, and then you let go, and then it corrects itself.
	But no, we hit an air pocket, was what apparently the pilot said.
	But no, no, no, no, let's change that.
	The co-pilot was adjusting his seat.
	So, another reason not to travel by airplane.
	Or, just so you know, John, as we have the bird flu on the way, H5N1, where are you most likely to pick up bird flu?
	Yeah, from a bird.
	Yeah, in a bird, actually.
	Oh, in an airplane.
	Yes, according to the director of immunization services at the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.
	That means you better get a shot.
	Oh, wait.
	Of course, this is part of the CDC. The quote is basically, it's just a plane ride away.
	That's great.
	That's a good one.
	I'll give you another point.
	You're ahead two to nothing.
	I think these guys, Hill and Knowlton, they're doing a fantastic job.
	They're really, really rocking it.
	We're talking about birds, breaking news.
	Uh-oh.
	It looks like pollution causes homosexuality in birds.
	No, no, it's not just pollution.
	It's mercury specifically, isn't it?
	Specifically birds becoming gay because of mercury.
	So how good is it when that's in your vaccine?
	I don't know.
	Maybe the vaccine makes you gay.
	Yeah.
	What is this story?
	I saw it briefly.
	I was like, oh my gosh.
	It's all over the place.
	Fox has it.
	It's mostly overseas.
	I think it came out of the Telegraph or the BBC News.
	Mercury turns birds homosexual.
	I think it's anti-fish eating maybe because there's so much mercury in fish nowadays they don't want to eat sushi.
	I have no idea.
	There's a story behind this we're going to have to deconstruct later.
	Just broke today.
	Or maybe it's a plug for Angry Birds.
	Yeah, Angry Birds.
	The Christmas edition is out.
	There you go.
	That's it.
	Angry Gay Birds.
	I was at Whole Foods last week.
	Sorry.
	No, no, no.
	There's some good stuff there.
	And I like buying my fish there.
	They have a pretty good fish department.
	They have a good meat department.
	Yeah.
	And I like getting the Dover sole, which is really cheap.
	Dover sole now is like six bucks a pound or whatever.
	Wasn't sole at one point really expensive?
	Not that I know of.
	Okay, and it's a beautiful fish, and it's like nature's fast food.
	You throw that in the pan, it's done, it tastes great, there's almost no bones.
	I'm talking to a guy about saying, I really love your Dover sole because it's really a cost-effective meal.
	He's like, yeah, it's great, there's no bones, and there's much less mercury.
	I'm like, what?
	Oh yeah, there's almost no mercury in this.
	But in the rest of the fish here, there's mercury?
	And you're like, uh...
	I was just amazed that the guy at Whole Foods would say, oh, there's almost no mercury in the Dover sole.
	What is it in?
	Is it in the salmon?
	It's in everything.
	There's mercury in all fish.
	Dear Adam and John, I work for one of the largest hospitals in San Francisco in the People's Republic of the Bay Area.
	They've always offered flu vaccines to employees and have said that they require them if you work in a patient care area, but you can simply sign a declination to get out of it.
	This year, they've drastically changed the policy.
	If you get the flu shot, you have to have a sticker on your badge indicating that you did.
	I'm thinking a six-pointed star.
	If you opt out and therefore do not have the sticker, you are required to wear a mask at all times.
	This applies to everyone.
	Clinical staff, clerical workers, janitors, food service workers, etc.
	And he actually sent me a copy of this.
	Is there something going around that we don't know about?
	That they need to wear these masks?
	Is everybody sick?
	I haven't heard about anything.
	You have to start wearing the mask if you don't get the shot by December 15th.
	Are they going to spray us with a crop duster with some disease in the next week or two?
	I mean, I don't get this.
	I'll tell you, man.
	Looking at Monday Sky, no sooner had you and I talked about it, and we'd had three glorious days of blue skies.
	It was the exact same temperature Monday morning.
	The dew point was the same.
	I took pictures.
	I Twittered the pictures.
	I put them on my Flickr account.
	I got pictures from all over Gitmo Nation.
	We had chemtrails up the wazoo.
	They're called contrails, and they were due to the fact that the dew point may have been what it was at ground level, but the upper atmosphere has changed constantly.
	Okay.
	Well, these weren't at 28,000 feet, John.
	Go ahead and take a look at my pictures.
	They were pretty low.
	Alright, put them on the show notes.
	A couple thousand feet at best, and they were there all day.
	I mean, contrails dissipate.
	Not these.
	They just hung there all day, and they started to gradually turn into one big, milky...
	Well, they're poisoning you, obviously, which is...
	Yeah, they are.
	Yes, they are.
	And they're poisoning you, too, except you're just...
	There's nothing going on here.
	No.
	Okay.
	So, uh...
	So...
	As we finish off this wonderful show, and we're not too depressing, as I was going to play, you know we were talking about how the extra show jams everything into one or two teasers.
	I don't know if you've watched Hell's Kitchen recently, but the show has deteriorated.
	Gee, John, I was watching the Moment of Truth memo presentation on C-SPAN 3.
	Yeah, well, I was watching Hell's Kitchen.
	Sorry, I missed Hell's Kitchen.
	Actually, I couldn't watch too much of it, because, I mean, it's so bad now, so artificial.
	Didn't they have, like, a...
	Department of Homeland Security guy on recently?
	They might have.
	I don't watch it that much.
	But whatever the case is, I do have the Hell's Kitchen Torment clip, which is actually kind of long, but it's the teaser.
	And all you have to do, I don't know how much of this you can take.
	Because it's so crappy.
	I mean, and the show has turned into such a, just a screaming, a phony screaming match.
	Everyone's screaming at each other for no reason.
	It makes you not, it's going to, I'm telling you, the way the show's going, it used to be very educational for people because they say, well, this is what I can expect from my food when I go to a good restaurant.
	But now it's going to, I don't think anyone would want to work in food service if they saw that this was going on.
	I mean, it's short of shooting.
	In fact, one guy threatened to kill another guy.
	It's ridiculous, but you play this and see what I'm talking about.
	Next time on Hell's Kitchen, listen carefully.
	Chef Ramsay starts the day with a bombshell.
	Two of you are going home this evening.
	I have got to step it up.
	I'm just going to take control.
	I'm ready to kick some ass.
	This is my chance to lead, my chance to show what I'm made of.
	The final four are in for the most intense dinner service of the season.
	Listen to me!
	It's not good enough!
	You're not going to f***ing screw me!
	Not just because Chef Ramsay is all over them.
	You do the sides first, and we're forgetting the entrees!
	John, this is hurting my ears.
	You've gone far enough.
	It goes on.
	This is the longest, you know, teaser clip I have ever seen.
	It's almost two minutes.
	Oh.
	And meanwhile, they have these segments in between trying to make this thing.
	I don't know who this is appealing to, the Jerry Springer show, but play the Hell's Kitchen sentimental crap.
	They go and they talk to one of the chefs who they bring all their family in because I guess they keep them prisoners while they're doing the show.
	Well, yeah, and they get them liquored up and they don't feed them.
	That way they're more emotional.
	That's a known trick.
	So they bring a child to this woman who's, I guess, her daughter or son.
	Oh my god, that's my baby!
	That's my baby boy!
	And he's just like such a big boy now, I can't even take it!
	It just affirms the reason why I'm here.
	You know, I'm doing this for my family.
	I'm doing this for that little monkey face.
	Mwah, there you go!
	He's just absolutely everything to me.
	I'm so sorry.
	It's time to say goodbye.
	This is stupid.
	It's unbelievably dumb.
	Waste my time.
	She sounds like she hasn't seen the kids since she got out of the concentration camp.
	Apparently the kid looks like a monkey.
	He doesn't look like a normal little one-year-old.
	While we're just on the kid thing, I just want to bring in a quick TSA thing that is very, very disturbing.
	So there's reports out now.
	Of course, you know, we've got to feel up your kids, right?
	This is very important.
	And the TSA, I'm trying to find, I'd love to have an audio quote of someone actually saying this.
	The TSA is saying, for children that are a bit traumatized by being felt up by big men and women with rubber gloves, parents should teach them it's a game.
	Is this the kind of game the shrink used to tell the kids to bust poor bastards who were set up on molestation charges?
	That kind of game?
	That's exactly what it is.
	And it's really disturbing to me.
	I would think.
	This is from Raw Story, who have this link, but, I mean, I'm...
	Let's get some documentation.
	Addressing the controversy over pat-down, TSA Regional Security Director James Marchand told the press that TSA was working on new practices to make children more comfortable during the pat-down process.
	Here's the quote.
	You try to make it as best you can for that child to come through.
	If you can come up with some kind of game to play with a child, it makes it a lot easier, said Marchand, promising to make it part of TSA training.
	This is abhorrent.
	This is unbelievable.
	I'm just surprised that the American public puts up with this crap and lets their children be fondled by strangers like this in broad daylight.
	It's amazing to me that we still have people making excuses for the TSA. We've never had an incident.
	They've never caught anybody.
	And they've upped the ante on security for no apparent reason.
	We haven't changed the security levels whatsoever.
	And everybody still, and the media, finds these people and they go, oh, I'm glad we're feeling so much secure.
	I don't want to see the bus blow up while I'm on.
	I don't want to see the plane blow up.
	What plane has blown up in the last 100 million flights?
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	Not to mention the hours I spent watching C-SPAN. I was lucky this week because Mickey was out.
	She's been working on the Supper Club opening.
	And you still didn't get a clip.
	I couldn't.
	I didn't get a clip.
	It was so horrible.
	I've watched those meetings.
	I've done the same thing.
	I've gone through them.
	I just go, my God, there's no clip here.
	It's moderately interesting, but there's never a clip because they never say...
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	Read, under the austerity heading, please read the moment of truth memo because this is what's coming down on you.
	At least in Gitmo Nation, United States of America.
	And the sales team is out there and they are selling it to you and it is being snowed under by bullcrap.
	Bullcrap like WikiLeaks and bullcrap like the NASA fake announcement of whatever.
	Aliens.
	Aliens.
	I mean, and by the way, one of the services we provide, and I get this based on the feedback we get from listeners who do contribute, is that we help you.
	You know, a lot of people go out there and they watch the news and they see what we're seeing.
	It doesn't get deconstructed much and then they get pounded by other news sources and they come away thinking, gee, this doesn't make any sense to me, but it must be true.
	And what we've done is we've tried to make you realize that your original thoughts are correct, that it's bogus.
	And we do the best job we can of that, and a lot of people appreciate it.
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	And just horrible information at worst.
	And they come away, I think, a little more secure in their own beliefs.
	I mean, it's like wine tasting.
	When you get a palate and you know what you're doing, you don't have to read Robert Parker telling you to buy this wine when you can taste for yourself that it's either good or not.
	Well, that's an interesting analogy.
	It is.
	Oh, and then just on a high note, John, I purchased the book 18 Acres.
	Yesterday.
	And?
	It's a very good book.
	About what?
	18 Acres is written by a former White House press secretary.
	She's kind of hot.
	She was on Fox.
	That's where I saw it.
	Oh, that's what's her name?
	Yeah, what's her name?
	She was the one who got into the beef with Palin.
	Yeah, whatever.
	But she wrote a novel about the 45th president of the United States.
	Right, a woman president.
	Yeah, she's been all over the place with that book.
	It's a really good...
	It's sexy.
	It's a good book, and of course the president...
	Chicklet.
	Yeah, and of course the president, the female president, her husband is cheating on her.
	It's like Hillary Clinton, except...
	It's about Hillary Clinton, yeah.
	Except this one is hot.
	It's a really good book, so I'll let you know how it ends.
	I'll spoil it for you on Sunday's show.
	All right.
	Well, yeah, I always just read the last page and I'm done with it.
	That's one way of doing it.
	I'm actually reading through it.
	I mean, I had to read that nullification book and I had enough of...
	Stuff to do.
	Yeah.
	My brain is so fried.
	Apparently, yes, you're done.
	So much stuff to do.
	Oh boy.
	Alright, so anyway, we do appreciate your support of the show and please continue that.
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