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	Hey, I'll tell you something.
	These girls aren't underdeveloped.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, November 28th, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 256.
	This is no agenda.
	Protecting the human resources from the wrath of ice and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I only have ice for you, I'm John C. Devorak.
	And in the morning to you, John.
	In the morning to you all, in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground.
	You're so, like, happy to get that out before I can that you're, like, stumbling over yourself.
	And in the morning...
	I know, I blew it.
	In the morning to all the human resources in the chat room with no agenda chat.net as we roll it out live on this Sunday the 28th.
	And I hope you're all happy and distracted slaves charged up human resources the way your government loves you.
	Because that's what you need to be.
	More and more and more these days.
	So we begin with some bogus...
	Has this story ever been resolved, whether this is a bogus hoax or a...
	No, I did a little bit of research on it.
	I presume you're talking about the so-called Department of Homeland Security's ICE unit taking over the torrent dash...
	What was it?
	Torrent Freak or something like that.
	No, no, no, it wasn't Torrent Freak.
	Torn search.
	Actually, like 70 websites, apparently.
	Supposedly.
	Supposedly.
	And it's kind of weird because it's probably the most emailed article, and I immediately dove into, all right, what's behind this?
	So the first thing you do is when you see this website that has this really cheesy, you've been seized picture on it, is you do a view source, and And immediately you see all these Google Analytics and all kinds of tracking stuff.
	And that right there is like, okay, that's weird.
	Red flag.
	Big red flag.
	So then, of course, you do a Whois, and this is what's kind of interesting.
	You see that the registration, of course, it's masked, but the servers, the domain servers that has now been remapped, which is kind of the way the DNS system works, because it's not like this site is off the air.
	It's just the domain name now resolves to this page.
	And it's ns1.seizedservers.com and ns2.seizedservers.com.
	Bogus.
	Well, no, because I looked that up, and I get the registration from that, and it goes to the IMIX Group, I-M-M-I-X, and they're very happy and proud to talk about their multi-million dollar, in fact, here it is, press release, May 17th, McLean, Virginia.
	Of course, fine spook outfit there in Virginia.
	Leading provider of enterprise technology and services, public sector, blah, blah, blah.
	Announced today its IT Solutions division has been awarded a contract...
	With the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that's ICE, and Cybercrime Center, worth up to $7.8 million.
	Under this new contract, Image Group will provide information technology, operational services, and support implementation and maintenance.
	So that is the connection to the spooks.
	Yeah, but my problem, of course, is that the ICE itself, which has a publicity department that...
	Waste no time to publicize every little mediocre bust that they make.
	It says nothing.
	Well, the New York Times quotes...
	But the quote is dubious.
	If you got called, the quote says nothing.
	And they did do a bust in June.
	It could be confused.
	I mean, it could be confused.
	If you read that quote, what does that quote say?
	It doesn't say anything.
	It doesn't say they did anything.
	Hmm...
	No, but it was like a confirmation.
	It wasn't a confirmation.
	It didn't confirm anything in that quote.
	Read the quote to me.
	I'm looking for it.
	I'm looking for it.
	I'm not completely opposed to what you're saying here.
	Because I immediately had suspicions too.
	I was like, this doesn't sound right, man.
	Seized site.
	Seizedserver.com.
	Why wouldn't it be.gov?
	That was my immediate question.
	Hold on a second, I'll pull it up now.
	What we're talking about for people out there who are completely unaware is that Drudge and the New York Times both reported that the ICE people, the Homeland Security, has cracked down on a bunch of sites and taken them over based on copyright violations.
	But not taken them over.
	This is an interesting change.
	They have diverted the DNS.
	Yeah, they will.
	So if you type in the name of this site, it no longer goes to that site.
	It goes to a site which is hosted at Karo Hosting, which is another red flag.
	I've got the Times thing.
	Hold on.
	Anyway, to continue, and this has become a big cause celeb all over the net.
	Oh, these guys, they're just terrible, the Homeland Security.
	I've noticed a bunch of interesting propaganda that's targeting homeland security, which, I mean, maybe if you're going to target somebody, they may be a good...
	But I wonder whether some of this stuff is just...
	Okay, here's the quote.
	New York Times...
	That's exactly correct.
	Court ordered seizure warrants against the number of domain names.
	That sounds like a true statement to me.
	It doesn't sound like a quote.
	It's in quotes.
	I'm just saying it's the New York Times.
	So, you know, this is the Ministry of Truth newspaper, the paper of record for these United States.
	The New York Times, I agree with that, but they're getting pretty sloppy.
	I'm just saying that Corey W. Bassett, you can Google her.
	She's all over the web as a spokeswoman for ICE. So, you know...
	This does seem to be what...
	So it's torrent-finder.com.
	That's it.
	And then OnSmash.com and RapGodfathers.com.
	But it would kind of come at an opportune moment because there were a number of counterfeit product seizures in the same time span by ICE, which is what they do, essentially.
	Well, I'll mention this.
	They do it this time of year.
	Yeah, of course.
	Just when you've ordered that fake Chanel to give to your loved one is when that shit gets nabbed.
	I noticed that for people who are connoisseurs of the Rolex watch, especially the Canal Street version that you can obtain in New York City if you go to the right side of the street, for anywhere from $12 for a cheap copy to $40 for a very good copy,
	around Christmas time, Wow, John, we're not doing well today on The Connection.
	Are you there?
	Hello?
	I know, maybe because somebody's surfing the internet over here and chewing up my bandwidth.
	It's possible.
	Could you ask maybe your producer to stop downloading porn?
	Mimi?
	Mimi?
	Yeah.
	She's not on anything that's active.
	So I'm told.
	So anyway, the point is that they always crack down around this time of year, and you can't get those fake watches.
	By the time March frame rolls around, although nobody uses watches anymore, so I don't think that business is much...
	I will say that this whole idea of taking away the DNS, which is kind of a funny exercise because it's the one thing that U.S. officials can actually enforce.
	It's hard to take down servers in other countries, etc., But if you look around the net, you've got Nominet in the United States of Gitmo Nation East where they are pretty much planning the same thing to allow the police to take down any website based upon the DNS at the request of the serious organized crime agency.
	So essentially the same system.
	And if this is actually happening, it sounds like it's Part of ACTA, which is exactly what this is supposed to do.
	Yeah, no, I know.
	And I know Nominet is another scandalous thing.
	Yeah, and then we've got...
	And this was actually a little more disturbing.
	Because, of course, people are all over the DNS. But DNS is really the foundation of how the simple Internet works.
	The web, in particular.
	Well, it's not just the web.
	Remember when we used to have to remember phone numbers?
	Well, imagine remembering a phone number.
	We don't have to do that anymore, so imagine remembering a phone number for every website you want to get to.
	That's quite painful.
	It's not just the web.
	It's not used in, you know, I mean, you can get around it, but it came from, if it wasn't for the web, the DNS system wouldn't be what it is today.
	I don't know if I agree with that statement.
	The DNS system was so that we didn't have to remember IP addresses.
	That predates the web by years.
	Years, I tell you.
	When were we using dot-coms?
	It's not about the dot-coms.
	It's about not having to...
	We were using DNS from almost the inception of the internet.
	Well, I know, but I'm just saying it was never something we chatted about.
	It wasn't, like, discussed in the...
	Yeah, but when I was using Gopher, pre-web, it wasn't entering IP addresses.
	It was domain names.
	Granted, it was.net and.mil for the CIA fact book and all that important stuff we looked at.
	But, no, DNS is pretty fundamental.
	So, you know, there's this open DNS, which...
	It was set up a couple of years ago, maybe four or five years ago.
	And an immediate hit, people love the whole idea of having this open DNS system, which is now being blocked because this can happen at network level.
	So, for instance, Verizon Wireless is blocking open DNS domain name resolution, and they can redirect stuff.
	And they are, in fact, actively.
	Even Time Warner Cable does that.
	If you enter certain sites or if you misspell something, it's not like you get a does not exist.
	You go to a spam page from Time Warner Cable that tries to sell you on some other places to click.
	So it's the marketing tool of the Internet, is what I'd say.
	What, DNS or what?
	DNS, yeah, DNS. Well, yeah, if it wasn't for DNS, everything had to be typed in.
	All the number, all the IP addresses, and some of them won't resolve anyway.
	Right.
	Especially with IPv6, where the number will be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 numbers and a letter in there somewhere.
	So I think unresolved.
	Although the New York Times would have to take it at its face value, the New York Times has a quote from this...
	Well, I know.
	I'm just saying.
	From this Corey W. Bassett.
	It's a really great quote.
	And I can imagine Corey getting a call from some reporter saying, are you doing takedowns, blah, blah, blah?
	And she would say yes.
	Hell yeah!
	That's what we do.
	Thinking that they're referring to the June takedowns that did take place.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	Well, it's one of those things that...
	Which is an ongoing investigation.
	Yeah.
	When it happens on a long holiday weekend and they're not prepared for it, you have to really put some question marks around that.
	I was watching CNN a bit this weekend, so you don't have to.
	Oh my god.
	They had like the B-minus-minus crew and the teleprompter was continuously messing up and the tapes weren't queued up.
	The holiday weekends on CNN are painful.
	It's hilarious to watch.
	It's like, wow.
	I love it.
	All right, John.
	Let's thank some producers before we get into the crux of things.
	Yes, let's do that.
	We've got two executive producers, two associate executive producers this week, beginning with Mac Matthew Schauer, S-C-H-A-U-E-R, in Winthrop, Minnesota.
	And he sent an email in, plugging, besides, he says that this show has changed his life, at least the way he thinks.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	John, we are the life changers.
	Exactly.
	We've got to get business cards.
	What do you do?
	I'm a life changer.
	A life coach.
	And he wants to plug GuideCraft.com, which is a children's furniture company and small schools and homeschooling.
	G-U-I-D-E-C-R-A-F-T.com.
	And I looked at their stuff.
	It looks like pretty good stuff.
	I would buy some...
	Is it wooden stuff?
	Yeah, it's all wooden.
	I love that, yeah.
	Stuff that's pretty cool.
	John...
	I guess it's Groomling in Aspen, up there in the mountains.
	He's also with Reddy Kilowatt in the chat room.
	Reddy Kilowatt, your buddy.
	My buddy is at home with Reddy Kilowatt, but apparently Aspen, Colorado is.
	And he gave $333.33, as did Matt.
	And I think they're building up to knighthood.
	And then we have two associate producers, executive producers, including Sir...
	Kelly Spongberg.
	Yay.
	Who is getting another knighthood for one of his relatives.
	This is a crack to seal on the earthquake machine donations.
	I love the show Marcus Couch is doing.
	It supports no agenda.
	Also goes toward another knighthood for my family, specifically my son Dallas.
	Have Eric let me know how much further money we need to get the knighthood.
	Also, thank you for letting us know the status of the rings and on.
	He's actually a black knight.
	Yeah.
	I think Eric can actually do your tax return if you want, Sir Kelly.
	We're a full-service organization here.
	We'll take care of you.
	Noah Cutler, and Kelly gave us $300.
	Noah Cutler of Austin, Texas, 222-22.
	Plug his brother-in-law's new History Channel TV show, Brad Meltzer's Decoded.
	Hmm.
	It airs Thursdays at 10 Eastern Standard on the History Channel and hits the secret history of symbols and codes in the mouth.
	Cool.
	He'll be doing shows on the White House Cornerstone, John Wilkes Booth, and the Bohemian Grove, among other things.
	NA listeners will dig it.
	Really?
	Well, how come they should interview us for that show?
	I think the show's probably been produced and in the can for a year.
	So we'll look forward to that.
	In fact, I'll check it out.
	And that's it for this week.
	Okay, well, and no one showed up for the created by credit that we talked about last week.
	Yeah, isn't that interesting?
	Well, I guess it didn't go over.
	Yeah, good idea.
	We'll strike that one from the meeting notes.
	Hey, I want to give a big shout out to Bubba Martin, literally back from the dead, and he's back on the cage match over there at Dvorak.org slash blog.
	Good to have him back again.
	Actually, it's Dvorak.org slash cage match.
	Cage match, I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	I want to say hi to our producer, Alan, who purchased gitmonation.org a while back and has been redirecting it to noagenda.com.
	That's great for our SEO. I appreciate that.
	And he says, if you ever come up with any great project, I'll let you know.
	But in the meantime, that's just great to have that forwarding to us.
	And then regarding the rings, which I think pretty much everyone knows that we've had an issue with a night down on the 101010 rings, but also some people appear not to have received their original rings.
	Now, this is kind of the...
	You mean coins.
	Coins, I'm sorry.
	This is kind of the downside of the model that we've chosen, is that anyone can go out and do anything they want and choose to send us a portion of the proceeds, if they so choose.
	So far it's worked very well.
	This one's definitely got a bump.
	So we want to do everything we can to resolve it.
	The number one thing we need to know as we're awaiting delivery of the coins so that we can send them out, and Eric the Shield will be doing that, We need to know who has not received what.
	So if you'd please, don't email John or myself, even though I've been keeping pretty good track of it.
	Send your email to shill, S-H-I-L-L, at noagendanation.com.
	And try to keep the email short and just say, here's what I ordered, here's what I didn't get, or whatever.
	shill at noagendanation.com.
	And we're trying to resolve everything.
	And I really want to thank Matthew Schauer and John Grumling for being this episode's executive producers, associate executive producers, Sir Kelly Spongberg and Noah Cutler.
	You guys know the deal because, well, some of you are returning, although I don't think we've seen Matthew and John.
	They seem to be brand new, but very appreciative of your support.
	That is the model we've chosen.
	No commercial interruptions, but we do allow for the Hollywood standard of people supporting us and receiving credit for that.
	It's a real one.
	All the rest of you out there, you've got to go out and do this.
	Please propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	World!
	Order!
	All right, everybody, say it loud and proud.
	Shut up, slave!
	Before we start, John, last night I was at a surprise birthday party for Rudy Sarzo, who has played in D.O. and Quiet Riot and Whitesnake and tons of other bands, bass player.
	And his wife had said, you know, you guys should come.
	And I said, do you sing or play an instrument?
	I was like, no.
	She said, well, what can you do?
	I said, I got a cowbell.
	She said, perfect, bring the cowbell.
	Dude, I was on stage with band members from ACDC, Guns N' Roses, Michael Schenker Group, D.O., playing cowbell to classics like Honky Tonk Woman and ACDC and this video, and I'm so excited.
	I did the dishes last night.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, I'm living that Hollywood lifestyle, Johnny Boy.
	Oh, speaking of which, I've got to tell you, there's an update on the Hollywood Whacker story.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, and of course, this is Ronnie Chasen, who was a very well-known publicist in Hollywood, known for getting buzz going for Oscar movies that often would then win the nomination.
	Yeah.
	And I've always...
	I don't want to bring her into any discredit or anything, but I've always questioned how this works.
	And I think all of Hollywood...
	Unless they win, of course, then it's like, oh yeah, it's honest voting.
	But when they don't win, everyone's always like, I don't know, man, that was kind of weird.
	I don't know why that guy won.
	So she was killed by...
	Now, there's a lot of...
	It's not quite sure if there was three shots or five shots, but now part of the coroner report has leaked out.
	Apparently, she was shot with hollow-point bullets.
	And they're making a big deal out of this.
	So that sounds like it would be a...
	Is that more likely to be an assassination attempt?
	A true two to the head if it's hollow points?
	I don't know.
	I'm not an assassin.
	I have no idea.
	I mean, I don't see what difference it makes.
	I mean, I know one of the techniques they like to use are these.22 caliber pistols and they shoot you right in the head and the bullet can't exit your skull and you get a...
	Yeah, this was a 9mm hollow point.
	Yeah, it sounds like, I don't know.
	It sounds like someone meant it, is what it sounds like.
	Well, they definitely, I mean, she was meant to be killed by someone.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	But why?
	I mean, that's what we haven't boiled down.
	Well, the only thing is, you know, they continue to talk about, you know, this is the CNN report, Chasen's work for three decades earned her a reputation as a publicist who could help create Oscar buzz for clients, which many times ended with Academy Awards.
	I mean, the only thing I can think of is that you wouldn't take somebody as a client for whatever reason.
	I mean, if that's the case, of course, they should be able to reverse engineer the problem.
	But I don't know.
	I just think the whole thing is weird.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, that's the update on the Hollywood whacking scene.
	We do have...
	No, I got nothing.
	I do have a bunch of...
	Good night.
	I have some clips from...
	I finally...
	I just had one more two-to-the-head story, which I don't want to overlook.
	The co-founder of the Libertarian Party.
	What was this?
	This was over the weekend.
	I didn't know this.
	Yes, David F. Nolan, who co-founded the National Libertarian Party and helped guide it for four decades while remaining active in politics as a candidate, including a recent run for the U.S. Senate, has died.
	66 years old, Nolan died Sunday in Tucson, where he lived, according to a statement released Friday by the party.
	His vehicle was found off the side of a roadway on Saturday evening, and emergency crews had to break in to help free him.
	He died in hospital the next day of unknown causes.
	Does it say in the report he died in hospital?
	He died in a hospital, it actually says, the next day of unknown causes.
	They could have said, of the car crash.
	Yeah.
	But no.
	I mean, they had to use the jaws of life, apparently, but no.
	If you have to use the jaws of life, you were in a car crash.
	Yeah, but it's unknown causes.
	That's CBS News reporting that.
	It could have been a traffic wreck.
	I don't know.
	And then, we are now the third largest political party in America, says Mark Hinkle, who is the chairman of the Libertarian Party.
	So it could be a classic two to the head.
	The guy was only 66.
	Yeah, but if he's in a car wreck, I mean, come on.
	Well, why don't they just say car wreck?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I didn't write the story.
	I don't know.
	But it's everywhere.
	They're incompetent nowadays.
	Well, if you look anywhere about this story, no one's saying anything other than unknown causes.
	You know, more logical would be he died in a car crash.
	But it's just not that way.
	I don't know.
	It could be like an editor saying, well, he died in a car crash.
	Well, what caused the death?
	Well, I don't know.
	He's in a car crash.
	Well, I don't know.
	It doesn't sound right.
	Blunt force trauma would be an easy one.
	Simple.
	Anyway, of course our thoughts go out to the family.
	I don't want to be insensitive or anything, but wow.
	When I read that kind of stuff, I'm like, mm-hmm, okay.
	Political deaths are...
	You know, weird.
	I think there was also a...
	The guy who was running the golf operations for BP also died over the past couple days in a small airplane crash, the way they love it.
	Ooh, now that sounds like a two to the head.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'll look that story up for some reason.
	I don't have it on hand.
	But also, no media attention at all.
	Sorry?
	No media attention at all for that guy.
	Yeah, and you think you get some.
	Yes, anyway.
	So I have just, you know, I noticed I was looking at the No Agenda Nation maps, which show everybody who's, after a certain amount of money, I guess $50 or so, they show up on this map at noagendamaps.com, or noagendanation.com, I'm sorry.
	Noagendanation.com.
	Hey, there's a map for that.
	There's a map for that.
	So I noticed that we got nothing in Japan.
	Except for you, we have a couple of people, you know, a couple of architects that are knights and a couple of other Americans who happen to be living in Japan.
	But I think, generally speaking, we have very low turnout.
	So I wanted to, I have a clip Of the most recent, at least part of the most recent sumo results.
	I'd like you to play that and maybe that'll help.
	Sumo results.
	Results.
	Sumo results.
	I know.
	Of the ongoing tournament.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I was unawares.
	Miyabiyama over Juryo man Toyozakura.
	Tochino Nada and Shotenro winners.
	Toyo Hibiki closing in on the Juryo title.
	His stablemate Goedo with a fabulous basho.
	Tosun Yutaka slams down Okinoumi.
	Koryu clinches his first winning tournament ever in the top division.
	Thanks.
	I'm up to speed.
	Yeah.
	I thought people that might get us some more donations at devorak.com slash NA. It's so simple.
	That's all we have to do.
	It works like a charm.
	Or maybe we should get into this LCIA CADA thing that happened up in Portland.
	This was laughable to me.
	You know, when that story broke, the first thing I did is I looked up the intel.
	If you remember in 2002, 2003, some guy that was an engineer at Intel was busted with his buddies because apparently the group of them...
	Him and about five or six of his pals, after 9-11, decided on a lark to go over to, I guess, Pakistan or Afghanistan to see what was what.
	See what was going on.
	Yeah, like a little field trip.
	Yeah, they went out there and came back and got immediately arrested by the FBI and then all found guilty.
	And thrown in jail, and apparently the one guy was just the Intel guy, as Intel Semiconductor, was released recently.
	He was in jail all that time?
	He was in the slammer?
	Yeah, he was in the slammer.
	And there's no story at follow-up or anything.
	Of course not.
	I have his name somewhere.
	But every time Oregon comes up, I'm thinking, why does anybody do anything In Oregon.
	And then, of course, the rationale is...
	If it can happen in Oregon, it can happen anywhere is what it sounds like to me.
	Yeah, and the bonehead that was involved in this fiasco...
	First of all, why do they always pick 19-year-old kids?
	Because they're dumb.
	I mean, my daughter is 20 and I could turn her into a...
	It would be easy.
	Give me six months...
	And I have her dial in a number.
	It's not that hard.
	She can convince kids of anything.
	And if you read the...
	So, again, for those of you who don't know, and the way it was reported was hilarious.
	Yeah, why don't you give everybody a background?
	Okay.
	So the news breaks that the FBI has foiled a plot to blow up a Christmas tree lighting in Portland, Oregon.
	And if you just listen to headlines, it's what 99% of the human resources in the world do.
	It's like, oh my gosh, I'm so happy the FBI saved us.
	The guy was going to blow everybody to smithereens.
	And then, of course, when you look a little bit further, these FBI agents, and why it's FBI and not CIA, I think, is a part of the story.
	Well, CIA is not supposed to do anything in the country, right?
	Yeah, but this guy is communicating...
	Why wasn't it Homeland Security is the question on my mind.
	Well, exactly.
	So we've got the FBI pretending to be operatives overseas.
	By the way, Google happily gave them email information.
	If you read the...
	What is it called?
	The affidavit, which is about 38 pages long.
	It's hysterically funny to read with six months to get this kid to finally, like, I'm going to go blow it all up.
	In fact, they met with him, and they recorded this meeting This is from the New York Times.
	Undercover agents in Mr.
	Mohamed's case offered him several non-fatal ways that he could serve his cause, including just praying.
	But he told the agents he wanted to be operational and perhaps execute a car bombing.
	That meeting was unfortunately not recorded due to a technical difficulty.
	I mean, please.
	Please.
	What a coincidence?
	I think not!
	Coincidence?
	I think not!
	It's just unbelievable that they actually have the gall to say that.
	So then, I guess they help him blow up a backpack somewhere out in the sticks.
	Like, that was cool.
	Hey, you want to do a really big one, son?
	You want to do a really big one?
	Yeah, man, I want to do a really big one.
	Alright, we're going to set it up for you.
	And he's pretending to, you know, it's total mind control.
	Six months of working on this kid.
	Who, by the way, was...
	You could probably...
	10% of the public in the United States is feeble-minded enough.
	I mean, you can tell by polling them.
	That you could probably...
	If you could get a hold of one of these guys, if you were a couple of intelligence guys, and you could start to work them, I think within six months you could get most of these feeble-minded people.
	To do anything!
	And all the kid had to do was think that there was a bomb...
	So, you know, there was nothing planted.
	The FBI told them that there was something that was, you know, oh, okay, we got the bomb ready to go.
	All you have to do is dial the number on your cell phone.
	And so, you know, so the kid dials whatever number they tell him to, and of course nothing happens, and he gets arrested.
	And then it's a big story about how we foiled the plot, and we had the mayor of Portland on television all weekend.
	Oh, this is so awesome.
	This is great.
	Just so you know, you know, our enemies are everywhere.
	It's just not true.
	And this kid was like a rapper.
	He was into fitness, in fact.
	And this is the thing that you have to get, and I put a link in the show notes.
	He apparently contributed an article about how to work out without going to the horrible gym where women expose themselves.
	Which, of course, I have to say, it's intimidating to me.
	I don't go to the gym because, you know, look at these dudes.
	Like, I look like a schmuck.
	And the chicks look hot.
	It's like, why would I want to go there and say, hey, look at me, I'm a dick.
	Hi.
	So, of course, you know, I mean, I get it.
	Anyway, so we wrote an article about how to work out without weights and not being in the evil gym in this web publication, which is now being referenced everywhere, called Jihad Recollections.
	And it's a PDF. John, it is the funniest thing you've ever seen.
	Oops, I don't know what happened there.
	Sorry.
	I mean, you must get a copy of this.
	You can download it.
	It's actually hosted at archive.org, of all places, which is quite cool.
	Hold on a second.
	I know what happened there.
	Somehow that preview thingy came on.
	Are you still with me, John?
	Yes, hello!
	Something like froze up here for a second.
	Okay, there we go.
	Here we go.
	I've got it now.
	This is fabulous, Mac.
	It's hurting.
	Okay, Jihad Recollections.
	This is the fourth issue, which was released on September 11, 2009.
	They love to choose their dates.
	And it's a full-color brochure, man.
	This thing is absolutely stunning.
	Right out of Langley.
	The men behind 9-11 and the motives that bound them.
	Let's just look at the cover here and look at a couple of the...
	A couple of the cover stories that we might want to read.
	The last moments before the world changed as narrated by Lawrence Wright.
	I mean, it's like, there's not Muslim people writing this.
	It's like spooks.
	Like, the whole thing is like a spook propaganda to suck you in.
	FBI's John O'Neill, quote, the great revival of Osama killed on 9-11 by Abu Risas, letter from Michael Scheuer to Osama bin Laden, hidden reasons for 9-11, U.S. foreign policy in the Islamic world by Abu Bakr, blinded by 9-11.
	I mean, it's 30, 40 pages long, and it's got layout, it's got editorials, it's got letters to the editor.
	It's crazy.
	Well, who's it purported to be written by, and who's it purported to be written for?
	Who's it for?
	What is the point of it?
	I don't know.
	Are they trying to make it look like they're, you know, is this like a terrorist, trying to make it look like a bunch of terrorists have a newsletter, or what?
	Well, the way I read it, and I read most of it, is, you know, it's like 9-11 and global financial crisis.
	I guess what this thing is trying to do is trying to say, all the ways of the West are evil.
	Really?
	It's funny because our views are not very far separated.
	And so they're using Western art directors?
	Oh yeah, totally.
	I don't know if anybody out there...
	We should probably dig a few of these up if they come and go.
	If you've ever looked at a true jihadist site...
	It is the worst piece of crap ever.
	It's been a while.
	Well, you should look at this because a lot of what they're saying is what you and I talk about.
	I'm telling you, this is what's kind of funky and weird about it, is a lot of the opinions here are, well, you know, the bankers are screwing everyone over.
	I'm like, yeah, okay, I agree with that.
	You know what?
	I think I'm...
	The jihadists don't care about the bankers.
	But that's what this publication is doing.
	We have to deconstruct this thing and figure out what they're up to.
	Well, there's a link in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com.
	I'll take a look at it.
	You definitely must look at that.
	And also have a look at the affidavit.
	It's just funny.
	The lengths these guys go to.
	For six months, they were just totally making this kid crazy.
	One thing, it shouldn't take six man months, times how many agents are involved, I don't know, a dozen, to make this sort of a bust.
	It's just a waste of the taxpayer's money.
	If they got some guy like this on the hook, just bust him.
	Right.
	Well, the probable cause is, of course, you know, they had to create the probable cause.
	A 19-year-old kid.
	My kid's 20.
	These kids are morons.
	Come on, John, you know what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, especially with today's educational system.
	Thank you.
	But it all started with this kid's email at gmail.com.
	That's how it all started.
	And right there in the affidavit, you know, well, we acquired his email.
	Okay, thanks, Google.
	There's a reason why I'm gone.
	Before you know it, I got some guy emailing me like, you know, hey, bankers bad.
	I'm like, yeah, bankers bad.
	Like, hey, call this number.
	You know what I mean?
	What?
	We hate the bankers, too.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But you must deconstruct this jihad recollection.
	And we had a meeting with Mr.
	Curry who said that he wanted to blow up the bank.
	The bank, yeah.
	We did lose the recording, but in other instances, we know he said this a couple of times.
	But we lost the recording of him saying it, but he did say it.
	And we also...
	Look at his email.
	He says he hates bankers.
	Now listen to the part of this podcast.
	There he is again.
	Yeah, there he is.
	He's saying it again.
	I'm telling you, it'll be so easy.
	But you'll bust me out, won't you, John?
	And I'll take over the show.
	Finally.
	It's all mine.
	So, okay.
	All right.
	Anyway, so Ministry of Truth.
	Great.
	Good job, guys.
	Happy about that.
	I wanted to follow up on something.
	We had a couple of things we wanted to clear up.
	We mentioned the crazy guy from Executive Intelligence, who was apparently a Lyndon LaRouche stooge.
	Now, was this the guy who said that all the kids in Afghanistan would be dead in 20 days?
	Yeah.
	No, no, that's the former congressman.
	I'm talking about the guy who came up and they wouldn't answer.
	Oh, he was talking about the British Opium War.
	Right.
	Right.
	And that is all, apparently, it's a plug for a dope ink, a Lyndon LaRouche book.
	Which has been re-released.
	It was released in 1978.
	Since 1978, it first came out, I guess.
	And it's just a classic Lyndon LaRouche product, which is eye roller.
	Well, the funny thing is, though, because I read the original, there's a PDF floating around, and the whole introduction is thanking the fine men and women of the U.S. intelligence services for helping them put the book together.
	Like, huh?
	So, well, yeah, of course they're going to say, oh, the Brits are doing it.
	Yeah, I think you made a good point there.
	But anyway, we can take some of that with a grain of salt and go back to our original thesis that the CIA is involved in something.
	By the way, I want to mention to people out there something that Eric just pointed out in the back channel, which is that we are having some issues with the 10-10-10 coins, and if anyone's ordered them through PayPal, you should probably ask for a refund because the 90 days is kind of running out and PayPal won't do anything after that.
	And also, if you ordered 10-10-10 coins on American Express, you can just tell them to give your money back.
	Well, don't we want to see if we can ship them out first?
	Well, I think we should get the, if anybody wants to cancel their order...
	Oh, then they should do it now.
	They should do it now, otherwise they're not going to be able to.
	If they did a PayPal deal.
	I'm still very hopeful that these things will show up at Eric's.
	Fine, but there's nothing wrong with being conservative and you can always reorder them if and when they show up.
	Okay.
	So, anyone out there listening, which you've got a few days, usually.
	So, this week I did something I ended up chewing up a lot of time with.
	Last month, Bob Woodward...
	I've now kind of changed my opinion of him, even though there's a lot of indication that he's either CIA... Oh, now you're telling me he's a Russian spy?
	No, I think it's straight up military intelligence.
	Okay.
	He was on C-SPAN, and I watched this thing, and believe me, you should donate even more money, having to put me through this.
	It's what we do, C-SPAN. He was on for an unbelievable amount of time, and within his chat with the kind of the cute little perky interviewer about his book, Obama's Wars.
	Let's talk about her.
	What's her name?
	He dropped bomb after bomb.
	In many instances, some of them was just jaw-dropping weirdness But I want to play a few of these clips.
	And by the way, I have one, two, three, four, five clips.
	I could have had 50.
	Okay.
	And I've cut these down as much as I can.
	But first of all, I want to start off by setting the stage for some of these clips by doing the Bob Woodward odd double talk clip.
	This is a very short clip.
	I want you to spot the double talk.
	At a pretty important crossroads of history.
	Will you tell me more?
	Yes, because this war has been going on since 2001.
	Longest war ever for this country.
	Right now, it's in trouble.
	This report released by Congress this week shows that it's not.
	And if you take in the back of the book...
	Hmm.
	Did you catch it?
	What I thought I heard was this war is in trouble, this report from Congress shows that it's not.
	Yeah.
	What was he saying there?
	He was saying that the war, you know, there's a lot of antagonism toward the Afghanistan war, and everybody knows it's in trouble, and this report, he shows that it is, but he says he shows that it's not.
	It's just so confusing that the war is in trouble and this report confirms it by showing that it's not.
	And then if you notice the timing between when he says the word not and the next word, he just jams it in there.
	Play it again and see how quickly he gets off of the not.
	At a pretty important crossroads of history.
	Will you tell me more?
	Yes, because this war has been going on since 2001.
	Longest war ever for this country.
	Right now, it's in trouble.
	This report released by Congress this week shows that it's not.
	And if you take in the back of the book...
	Okay.
	The whole thing is...
	You don't think he just didn't finish his...
	He was going to say that it's not like working out or something?
	Is that what he was trying to say?
	You know, I would have thought that, except this goes on.
	This happens on and on and on.
	And apparently he's got a history of it.
	And listen to this one.
	This is Woodwork...
	Well, Woodwork.
	Which is at Guidecraft.com.
	Yeah.
	This is Woodward on Clinton Gore.
	Now what she did was she got a clip from him in 93 or 94.
	Talking about the relationship between Clinton and Gore.
	And again, there's some double talk in here.
	And this goes way back.
	I don't think it's double talk.
	I think it's NLP. I think it's neuro-linguistic programming.
	Because he just confuses you to listen to him talk.
	And he talks with a weird, not a stammer, but a herky-jerk kind of way.
	We should try that.
	I think it might work not.
	The relationship between Vice President Gore and Bill Clinton.
	Let's listen.
	Vice President Gore, I think very much to his credit and to Clinton's credit, but I was surprised to hear that Gore, in a moment of frustration, when Clinton asked him, what do I do about selling and making the decisions on this economic plan, Gore said to him, you get with the goddamn program.
	That's frank and candid talk from anyone.
	I've never heard of a vice president speaking that frankly to the president.
	And as I say, it's frank and direct at the same time.
	It's to Clinton's credit that he will let people talk to him candidly because the president needs somebody who will speak the truth.
	You get with the program, Billy Boy!
	Now, here's the question that immediately comes to mind.
	He apparently, I guess Gore was relaying something from someone, says, look, get with the program.
	Yeah.
	Now, telling somebody to get with the program means there's a program.
	It's not speaking the truth.
	What truth?
	No, it's just getting with the program.
	Oh, this is a great thing that Clinton lets people speak the truth.
	What truth are we talking about here?
	No, it's just...
	If I say to you, hey, hey, Adam, get with the program.
	Yeah.
	What truth am I referring to?
	The one that the Rothschilds have set forth.
	There's no truth involved.
	This is like nonsense.
	And this is the kind of thing that Woodward does.
	I don't have a number of the clips where he talks about it's as though the White House is bugged.
	Do you think?
	What do you mean?
	As though?
	Of course it's bugged.
	They record everything.
	There's a couple quotes I'll put on.
	I have to dig them out.
	But I found the next show where he talks about, well, Obama sends out a secret memo that says this, that, and the other.
	And then he said a secret this and a secret that.
	Why isn't this guy in jail?
	I mean, if anybody else was revealing these secret this and secret that, you'd think they'd be busted.
	But anyway, let's go on.
	This is fun.
	Here's another one that's kind of weird.
	I've only got the weird ones, not the kind of creepy ones.
	But listen to this one.
	Bob Woodward in Obama office with Bull.
	The dogs of war, once they are unleashed, they're hard to control, sees his job as imposing clarity on the chaos of war.
	I showed him a quote from one of the great World War II books written by a friend of mine, Rick Atkinson, Day of War, about the Italy-Italian campaign.
	And in it, Atkinson, who probably understands the military and military history better than anyone, just waxed eloquent in a paragraph about how war corrupts everyone.
	And no heart goes unstained, so I handed this to President Obama and said, what do you think of this?
	And he read it, and he said, I'm sympathetic to this view.
	Go back and read my Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech.
	I ran home and dug it out, and there Obama says, sometimes war is necessary, but it is never glorious, and it is a manifestation of human folly.
	Spoken like a true peace prize winner.
	Okay.
	So what he's telling me here is he goes to visit Obama to talk about, you know, whatever.
	Yeah, he went in July to get the book ready.
	He had an interview with the president.
	And he's carrying a book bag with him?
	I mean, he says, I go out and visit the president, so I pulled this book out, which I guess I was carrying with me, and he had him read a quote from it.
	And then he ran home to go dig up the Peace Prize acceptance speech.
	Does this make any sense to anybody?
	Oh, by the way, now I'm having an interview with you.
	Here, read this quote from this book.
	Well, I mean, are you trying to tell me that this was, like, this is a setup, this whole Obama Wars thing?
	Duh.
	Bob, now here's another one.
	Now this one here, that actually JC, I have to say, caught this.
	And I didn't realize it, but we've got a new meme here that I think Woodward was playing with.
	A weather balloon.
	He was testing it.
	He was testing this to see if it will catch.
	I think it's one, when you hear it, I think you'll identify it's something we should be using.
	It's on the disconnect, I presume?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	General Petraeus, who through much of the book was the central commander in charge of Afghanistan and Iraq, is now, after McChrystal was fired, just the Afghan commander.
	And he says to Rahm Emanuel, the chief of staff, let me be, I'll be your lead sled dog on this.
	Emmanuel says, yeah, yeah, yeah, but there's never that team building where the generals are included, or some of the generals, some of the military, in the inner circle in a way that all the cards get turned up.
	Face up so everyone knows where everyone stands.
	This is done at a certain distance now.
	On the other hand, in fairness to President Obama, on the intellectual level, these strategic reviews are a masterpiece of Professor Obama considering all of the issues, debating them, hearing people out.
	Mind to mind, in terms of substance, it is a terrific job.
	On the personal level, which is often more important, there is this curtain that comes down and stays down.
	Professor Obama!
	You got it.
	Professor Obama!
	Isn't that great?
	That's a beautiful one.
	I love it.
	Professor John, you're a PhD, aren't you, John?
	Dr.
	Dvorak.
	Dr.
	Dvorak.
	Yes, I'm making you talk.
	Professor Obama.
	So it has, it's the point where he was a professor, we forget that, and it has a demeaning, it has a demeaning aspect to it.
	Yeah, it means like you stupid academic.
	Professor Obama.
	So he slips that in.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	So it is a complete hit piece on Obama, but what you're saying is he's not CIA, he's military-industrial complex.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay.
	Difference?
	Less heroin.
	I think there's heroin.
	That's the difference.
	The difference is the heroin.
	So now the only one I want to play now, just the last one, and we can do some more some other time.
	This is good, though.
	I should give you more than my half of the money for sitting through all this crap.
	So wait, this is the one that is a jaw...
	This next one is a jaw-dropper.
	I am stunned that the media hasn't picked up on this maniac.
	Just for this particular little...
	Diddy that he has to say.
	There's actually two things in here I want to discuss, but you have to hear the whole thing out.
	Bob Woodward on his voting.
	If you're telling, are you a Democrat or a Republican?
	And number two, I'd like to find out how you voted.
	I think it was in 68 and 72 when Nixon was elected.
	Being voted on?
	A fair and good question.
	Because I live in the District of Columbia, which is so predominantly Democratic.
	I am a registered Democrat, but I am an avowed neutral.
	And to put that into practice, I take my young daughter into the voting booth, and she votes for me.
	She's now 14.
	We've been doing this since she was about age 4.
	She's now quite...
	She's informed and they let you bring a child with you in the voting booth and she actually makes the selections.
	She does my lotto numbers too, by the way.
	Since she was four.
	Now, besides this being a bullcrap story, if ever there was, that's not to mention, maybe he does do this, but it's unbelievable that he can say it.
	Pedobear, man.
	He's taking her in the booth.
	This is bad.
	The other thing that I thought was a little piece of NLP just kind of slipped in, because I live in D.C., which is predominantly Democrat, I'm a registered Democrat.
	What is that saying?
	Yeah.
	You don't have to be a registered Democrat.
	Why don't you register as an independent in D.C.? Do they mug you?
	No, because you have no work in D.C. if you're not with the program, Professor Dvorak.
	That's what he's saying.
	It's like, if you live in D.C., which means you work in D.C., which means you have a vocation, it only works if you're on board with the program.
	That's what I took away from it.
	Well, I took away from it that he's an idiot.
	Okay.
	All right, let me just change the mood a little bit.
	Gitmo Nation, Great White North, they've got a lot of hockey games.
	And this is a commercial that's been running on the Gitmo channel up there.
	This is their national news organization, a commercial for The National, which is their big news program, their big government run.
	I guess it's government run, right, CBC? Yes.
	Yep.
	Government Ministry of Truth.
	Listen to their commercial and tell me which word they're missing.
	So, what's in a good story?
	Hypocrisy?
	Absolutely.
	Anger?
	Anger.
	Laws?
	Sorrow?
	Joy.
	Suffering?
	Reward?
	Humor and consequence?
	The things we fear?
	The things we desire?
	Human weakness?
	Human decency?
	Those are the things we look for.
	And we know where to look for them.
	Don't look for us.
	Every night.
	Seven nights a week.
	On CBC News.
	On CBC News.
	The National.
	All right, that's The National.
	So this is what they think a good story consists of.
	What word did you miss there, John?
	Well, news would be one of them.
	Or how about truth?
	It's like, it's got to be emotional, human, scary, frightening.
	Good catch.
	Yeah, truth.
	Yeah, let me do this one more time.
	It's really good.
	Hypocrisy?
	Absolutely.
	Hypocrisy?
	Anger.
	Anger.
	Laws.
	Sorrow.
	Sorrow.
	Joy.
	Suffering.
	War.
	And consequences.
	Consequences.
	Fear.
	Slave.
	Weakness.
	Desire.
	Weakness.
	Indecency.
	Shut up, slave.
	We know where to look for them.
	We know where to get that.
	So look for us.
	Amazing, isn't it?
	I think Entertainment Tonight would have the same list.
	They should!
	At least they're honest about what they're doing.
	I like that.
	But wow, we should have commercials like that for all news.
	The word facts was all news.
	Facts, yeah, another one.
	Facts and truth, forget it.
	Facts and truth and news.
	Hey, the slaves up there in Gitmo Nation, Great White North.
	Good work.
	Yeah, that's from one of our producers.
	He caught that, which was great.
	He said it ran 30 times during the hockey game.
	It was driving me nuts.
	I like it, though.
	I think that's very, very funny.
	Hey, today, by the way, they're voting in Haiti, John.
	No.
	Yes, today is the long-anticipated election in Haiti.
	Preval, of course, no longer eligible for re-election.
	Of course, you know, Wyclef Jean was kicked out.
	But the main contender now, I hate to say it, but it seems like I have a crystal ball here.
	Let me guess.
	Clinton.
	No.
	Sweet Mickey Martelli.
	Don't you remember Sweet Mickey?
	No.
	Yeah, we talked about him.
	He's a musician, and he also was on White Class John.
	They're like rivals.
	They became rivals artificially.
	Sweet Mickey Martelli is poised.
	So it's him, essentially.
	All of a sudden, he comes out of nowhere, and he's the guy.
	And Jude Celestine, who is a protege of Preval, who's getting moved out, So I would have to say Celestan is probably going to win, because I guess if he's a Preval guy, then he's in, right?
	So they drum up this sweet Mickey Martelli after...
	I think here's what happened.
	Maybe...
	So first, you know, it was obvious we needed a takeover.
	There's now 12,000 peacekeepers in Haiti.
	12,000.
	And they're keeping the peace by shooting people with cholera.
	I think what happened is, first, we need this place.
	We've got to set up our hotels.
	Clinton wants the Clinton Casino Way.
	We need our offshore bank.
	They've been trying this for decades.
	Okay, finally, we've got it.
	Oh, unfortunate earthquake in a place that hasn't had an earthquake for 90 years and all of a sudden devastation.
	And then we throw some cholera in there now, which has been admitted, was brought in by the UN Peacekeeping Force.
	They brought the cholera in.
	Inadvertently or not, they brought it in.
	They're admitting to it, because there has not been cholera there.
	How do you do it inadvertently?
	What do they have, a bunch of cholera, some guy in the hospital with, hey, can you wear this blue hat?
	I mean, how did they get...
	Could you poop in the river, please?
	How did this happen?
	It makes no sense to me.
	Well, that someone who was with the UN peacekeeping...
	This is what they're saying themselves now.
	Someone who was with the UN peacekeeping force...
	I'm sorry, peacekeeping...
	Had cholera and introduced it into the population by pooping in the river.
	And they didn't fly?
	I mean, how did this happen?
	This whole thing is bogus.
	I mean, cholera is not something you could walk around like, you know, typhoid Mary with no symptoms.
	I'm just telling you what the Ministry of Truth prints.
	That's all.
	Alright.
	So I think what happened is they needed a shill.
	They needed a popular shill to go up against the protégé, Préval's protégé, Jude Celestine.
	By the way, Etou Brutus and You Judas.
	Nice name, Jude.
	And so they tried Wyclef Jean, but his head got too big.
	I think that's what happened.
	Wyclef Jean was like, hey, I'm actually going to do some shit here.
	Oh, I can do this.
	And of course he can.
	He can actually do some work.
	Yeah, I'm actually going to do something.
	And then, you know, but then he got...
	Whoa!
	Hold on there, son!
	That's not what you're supposed to do.
	And then he was like on the jet, on the Clinton oil jet, and he's like got his suits on.
	They're like, wait a minute, this guy actually might like, no, no, this is no good.
	Hey, who was that douche who played?
	He put it on his record.
	Yeah, sweet Mickey Martelli.
	Yeah, good name, by the way.
	Sweet Mickey Martelli.
	And now he, all of a sudden, is the frontrunner.
	Like, out of nowhere.
	So I think it's pretty obvious what is happening there in...
	Rigged elections.
	Do you think?
	By the way, there should be no problem with the people not being able to show up to vote because, let me see, they're dying.
	They're puking their guts out of cholera and no one's helping them.
	I swear to God, you know, you've said it before, John.
	Why don't they just go shoot them?
	Just shoot the people of Haiti.
	And by the way...
	I think they're doing that.
	I think that's going on.
	Yeah, they're doing that too.
	But it's not massive enough.
	It's just one at a time.
	And where's the video of all this?
	We had tons of video.
	Oh, we've saved another baby from the rubble.
	But now when the people are puking their guts out and dying of cholera and being shot by peacekeepers...
	Where's the video?
	Where are you, CNN? Hey, Anderson Cooper, how come you're not there, douchebag?
	Pisses me off.
	Anyway, so you watch.
	That'll be the outcome there.
	And then Haiti will be saved.
	We'll sweep all of the bodies under the rug.
	And in five years from now, John, I will invite you on a fine vacation.
	North Shore.
	North Shore.
	The Clinton Casino.
	The Clinton Casino on Bill and Hillary Way.
	Maybe it'll be Avenue.
	Maybe they'll get an Avenue out of it.
	And it'll be great.
	It'll be fantastic.
	And everyone who donated money and is just sitting at home going, huh?
	You should be ashamed of yourself.
	Ashamed that you're not, like, up in arms and you're not protesting Anderson, Vanderbilt, Cooper's tent house.
	Especially the blind donations to your cell phone.
	Yeah, they're still shilling for that on USAID.gov.
	You can still say, oh, and the money's going to go to the Red Cross, and the money's going to go to the BushClintonFoundation.org.
	Haven't seen their numbers either, by the way.
	Still looking for their numbers to come out.
	They barely have a website.
	Anyway, so that is actually my pet peeve of the day.
	It's almost good.
	Play it.
	No, no, no.
	I hate my jingle.
	Your jingle is good.
	My jingle is lame.
	That doesn't rhyme.
	Mine doesn't either.
	So I got a couple of things.
	Just to clear up some more of the stories that we did in the last few days.
	Last few shows.
	I want to play the North Korea.
	We talked about this.
	You have some input from an exposed source saying that the South Koreans fired the North Koreans and that's why they returned fire.
	Yeah, they were doing an exercise.
	And so the NHK, Japanese news service, took the feed from the North Korean news service and reported it.
	And the North Koreans said the exact same thing, so I want to play this clip, to just confirm the fact that they were exchanging volleys between the North and the South.
	It wasn't a one-way deal.
	The North Korean Central News Agency said in an editorial on Saturday that any civilian deaths were very regrettable.
	However, the editorial accuses South Korea of using civilians as human shields by bringing them into military facilities.
	On Yonpyeon Island, two civilians were reportedly found dead near a South Korean military facility on Wednesday.
	The North's editorial also placed blame on the United States and said it plotted the exchange of artillery fire between the two Koreas.
	Yeah, so I'll reiterate that South Korea was doing an exercise, and they said, hey, we're going to do an exercise over here, so we're going to be shooting kind of across the border there.
	North Korea sent a fax.
	Hey, don't do that.
	Then South Korea fired and North Korea fired back.
	But what I said was it was to try and distract from this legendary exchange between Russia and China, where apparently they've decided to use the euro as their monetary unit of exchange for gas and other energy sources, which will be completely circumventing not only the United which will be completely circumventing not only the United States, but the United States currency.
	And if it's true that they're actually going to use the euro, then whoa, look out.
	Well, we'll see.
	Luckily, they've got the euro pumped up.
	We can just turn that around.
	Talking about the euro, I might as well play a clip I have here of John Bolton slamming the EU, even though he does this routinely.
	It's a point, I think, that we should reiterate, which is the EU is really a fascist dictatorship.
	The parliament that they have there doesn't do anything.
	Now, who is John Bolton again?
	John Bolton is an ex-UN ambassador who was always considered a big douchebag when Bush hired him, but we played clips from him before, and his analysis of international stuff is quite good and straightforward.
	You know, we still in many states vote for judges and vote to recall judges.
	I think that's a good thing.
	I could see a little of that at the federal level as an experiment from time to time.
	The Europeans are horrified that we vote for judges.
	So starting from what I think is a different basis in many respects, now look at the phenomenon of the European Union.
	Which encompasses virtually all of the domestic policy decisions of the member governments conducted in Brussels in mass meetings of diplomats and bureaucrats from around the European Union with next to no transparency or visibility.
	And many of them not even elected.
	Certainly next to no democratic accountability on the part of the people who actually live in the European Union.
	The figures were compiled in Britain some time back, and they're absolutely shocking.
	They vary a little bit depending on who you're listening to, but something like between two-thirds and 90% of all the legislation that Parliament passes today is simply enacting into UK law decisions that have already been made in Brussels.
	That is phenomenal.
	And in other countries, I'm sure the percentage is roughly the same.
	That's why in Europe today they talk about the democratic deficit, because none of the members of the so-called executive of the European Union are elected by anybody other than other government bureaucrats.
	The European Parliament is, if I may say so, a joke that has virtually no influence over the workings of the European Union.
	It doesn't look like that's going to change.
	Can I just jump in here, John?
	I'm so glad you bring this up.
	So two things I want to kind of jump into here.
	So one is that, what do you say, like an astounding 90% of all laws are basically made at Starfleet Command, and then they're just kind of taken...
	Rubber stamped by these various countries.
	So let me give you one right now, which came out on Friday.
	Scientists give all clear for meat and milk from cloned cattle.
	It's now safe.
	And this, of course, has been approved by Brussels, is that everyone in Britain, in Gitmo Nation East, can now drink milk.
	And eat meat from genetically modified beasts.
	Well, these aren't genetically, I guess they would be.
	If you're a clone, what do you mean?
	A clone is not the same as modified, it's just a clone.
	Yeah, modified to be not new and individual, but to be the same.
	So, come on, that's modification.
	Alright, it's freaky, let's put it that way.
	And then Barroso is in...
	And why?
	Why?
	Because...
	I mean, wait a minute.
	I mean, it's so easy for a cow to create cows.
	Why would you go through this rigmarole to clone cattle and then legalize the milk?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	I mean, it's stupid.
	Well, let's read...
	It's obviously to benefit some cloning company.
	Well, let's read what the article says.
	So, first of all, Andrew Wage, chief scientist at the Food Standards Agency.
	The committee has confirmed that meat and milk from cloned cattle and offspring shows no substantial difference.
	Oh, wow.
	Words matter.
	No substantial is not the same as no.
	Right.
	No substantial difference to conventionally produced meat and milk, therefore, is unlikely to present a food...
	Unlikely.
	That's great.
	Let's see if they say why this is good.
	Yeah, why is this good?
	I'm looking at it.
	I'm speed reading through the article.
	I'm telling you, this operation, this EU operation, invites so much corruption.
	Oh, yeah.
	That it's just mind-boggling.
	And the fact that the public of Europe is putting up with this, although I wonder how much they are putting up with it.
	But the thing is, it doesn't even have to be labeled.
	This is happening in this country, too.
	Well, they tried to do a thing with BST, this bovine, whatever it is.
	Yeah, but there's still no labeling requirement.
	We could be eating that for all we know.
	Because there's no labeling requirement.
	Yeah, there should be.
	You know, what's weird about that is that the EU is all hung up on labeling.
	Yeah, well, not when it comes to this.
	Nowadays, you can't label.
	They make a big deal.
	Like the Swedes and some of the Scandinavian Nordic countries, they do jams and jellies from some of these exotic berries that they grow beautifully because berries grow better in these cold climates.
	I mean, a...
	A raspberry from Washington State will be better, generally speaking, than one front.
	But I think, just thinking logically, even though they're not going to tell us human resources why it's good to have cloned beasts, it's because it's cheaper and easier to raise one in a jar.
	Isn't that the simple answer?
	I wouldn't see how that could be.
	It doesn't make any sense to me.
	Well, of course it is.
	No, because they'll eat dirt.
	You know, they eat...
	Dirt doesn't cost anything to feed him.
	Here, cow has some dirt.
	I'm made to like dirt.
	It's like a bunch of really dumb looking cows.
	It's not that that cow's not dumb already.
	There you go.
	It can't be anything different.
	This is to benefit some company that's doing this.
	Well, everything's to benefit some company that someone's in bed with.
	Well, that's again, let me get back to the labeling thing.
	So the Swedes now, and they always used to put a little Swedish flag on their jellies, the EU says, no, we're trying to get away from these country, these nationalists, the crap, so you cannot put the Swedish flag on jelly.
	Or jams.
	And it has to be with the rest of them.
	We all have to be competing equally.
	And it's just like, this is to benefit some jam makers who make inferior products.
	Well, of course.
	Of course.
	Everyone's got an...
	I got some clips coming up after we thank some donors.
	But just a quick 30-second clip here from the commander of Starfleet Command, Barroso.
	Barroso.
	And he lays it out.
	I mean, he is now confirming what John Bolton just said.
	Complete confirmation of what the United States of Europe is really all about.
	The important thing is that we in Europe continue to identify now the right reforms and that we carry those reforms through with one shared goal, making sure that all our citizens will benefit from a smart, sustainable, inclusive growth on our continent.
	We believe that without fiscal consolidation, we will not have growth.
	For a very simple reason.
	Without fiscal consolidation, there will be no confidence.
	Without confidence, no investment.
	Without investment, no growth and no employment.
	So, to put the public finances in order is an absolute prerequisite for growth and for social commitment.
	Precisely because we want in Europe to keep what we generally call a social market economy.
	We want to keep a welfare state.
	There you go.
	So, that means you have to give up your money.
	Give up a part of your paycheck.
	That's called social commitment.
	That's a great meme.
	Social commitment, everybody.
	Like it.
	Yeah, so we can keep the...
	So we can keep the welfare state going.
	And just to that point, I got a very nice email that I just want to read from Gitmo Nation Leprechaun.
	Adam and John, thanks for your value for value.
	We're looking forward to our donation once we can again this Christmas as one of us is a government employee, and we are now down 25% of one wage in Ireland, and servants like us are being asked to cut services from old people as the snow covers the island.
	The country is falling apart here, man.
	I personally work for a medical device company, an American one, in Ireland, that I know are selling defective product when the market is selling at a great price.
	I have seen this.
	We are a lake region medical company, and I also believe it will go public in the next 18 months.
	Yes.
	It's like, oh man, I feel so bad.
	I feel really, really, really horrible.
	And there's Barroso, like, hey, it's the welfare state.
	You give up your money to the rich.
	That's how it works here.
	Unbelievable.
	Have some meat.
	And some milk.
	Have some fake milk and some, God knows, carcinogenic meat.
	Ah, anyway.
	Wow.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	So we didn't get a lot of donations this week, but we got enough to get by.
	Kind of our welfare state.
	It's a welfare state, I tell you.
	Let's begin with a couple of 99.99ers, which requires Adam to actually jump in.
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	Niner, niner, niner, niner to Corey Watlow, LLC. He's enjoyed Sunday's show, one of the better ones in his opinion.
	And this includes a boarding pass subscription.
	And he's thankful that we do this show.
	He's made him sound...
	For one, he likes to break down on the Clinton Foundation.
	He also wants to thank us for making him sound smart in his social circles.
	He drops bombs once in a while.
	Yeah, we're getting him laid, I'm telling you.
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	So you give a douche...
	Douchebag!
	33.33 for some cloud karma.
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	Happy Thanksgiving.
	A little bit of cloud karma.
	Hold on a second.
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	Yes, in the morning to you.
	Delivering the mail.
	We've got a mail, man.
	You mean a postal worker.
	A postal resource.
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	Double nickels on the dime.
	Long overdue contribution for keeping John and Adam from becoming the crazies on corners with cardboard conspiracies.
	We're so close.
	We're borderline already.
	We're one donation week away.
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	I received a promotion at work after being told by the upper echelon that I'm a valuable resource.
	Oh, yes.
	In the morning.
	You know, we just want to tell you that we here at Acme Inc.
	feel that you're a very valuable resource.
	Thanks, boss.
	How could you just sit there and go...
	You're kidding me, right?
	A resource?
	I'm a resource!
	Well, congratulations.
	We're happy for your karma.
	And thank you for the support, of course.
	A couple of nighthood layaways continuing, dui-help.com, and Barry Wilson from New South Wales, Sir Barry, actually, and Sir Joshua.
	And finally, Michael Proctor of New South, another one from New South Wales, $50, and Mark Fusco, which is just a great name, San Antonio, Texas, $50.
	Hi, John and Adam, finally sending a donation and looking for some karma.
	You've got karma.
	He's trying to become a sommelier at a restaurant.
	Hopefully I'll know this coming week.
	I'll let you know how it goes.
	If it goes well, first bottle on me.
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	We do it no matter what the holiday is, because most of them are fake anyway.
	We are here, and we...
	Assassinate the media as best as possible for you.
	And please continue to propagate the message, get more people to listen, and they eventually will want to even out the douchebag ratio and support the show.
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	Right, and no fake, you know, ersatz commercials where we claim it's not a commercial, and then we play a commercial like they do on the national...
	Treasure NPR and PBS. So there was a...
	I went down my own rabbit hole this weekend.
	As a story came out of Florida, the Sunshine State.
	Now, five years ago, a bill passed in Congress and the Senate.
	I guess the bill passed, period.
	The Real ID Act of, I think, 2005.
	And the whole idea behind this Real ID Act is essentially to get us all to carry papers.
	Which is something that traditionally, for Europeans, it's like, oh, what's your problem, right?
	Because you guys have a history of showing your papers to the authorities.
	But we don't have to do that in the United States.
	We don't have to give you our social security number.
	We don't have to give that to the authorities, I don't think, John.
	I don't think we can give your social security number to anybody if you don't want to, although it's asked for all the time.
	And so now they want to have an official approved identification mark of the beast, which would include, well, and this is the rabbit hole I went down.
	Of course, everyone's afraid it's going to include biometrics, RFID chips, all kinds of stuff.
	And Florida kind of kicked it off in the Sunshine State with the following report.
	I'll play, it's like four minutes, a little bit too long, but I'll be able to stop it after the pertinent information comes out.
	An IT investigation now that sounds a bit like grade school.
	Get a gold star on your Florida driver's license and you'll be allowed to board an airplane.
	No gold star?
	You could be out of luck.
	It's all part of the Real ID Act, passed by Congress five years ago to help make travel safer.
	But as IT investigator Stephen Stock has discovered...
	Safer.
	Now, by the way, remember I promised I was going to play some clips that pertain to how everyone is just making money off of everything, and wait until you hear the douchebag who's involved in this scam.
	What's really being beefed up are the profits for the identity management industry.
	Never!
	Ever, ever, ever.
	Oscar Perez can't ever remember being asked for a social security card in order to get a driver's license.
	Alex Hernandez has the same gripe.
	Over the phone I was just told maybe a couple bills, something with my name, my address, and that should be it.
	Now apparently they want that plus the social as well.
	Providing an authentic Social Security card is just one of a list of new requirements for what's become known as the National ID Program, named Real ID. The 9-11 Commission found that the hijackers were gaming the driver's license system.
	Wisconsin Congressman James Sensenbrenner sponsored the Real ID law.
	The states that refuse to cooperate are going to end up forcing their residents to get a form of federally approved ID. Under the law, beginning in 2014, people without a gold star on a driver's license or ID card will not be allowed to board a commercial airplane, enter a federal building, or a nuclear facility.
	I just had an idea, John.
	Why don't we sew a gold star onto our clothing?
	There you go.
	That's an idea.
	It should be a six-pointed star.
	Yeah, a six-pointed star on my vest.
	It just hit me.
	What a great idea.
	Only a passport that costs more than $100 will be used as an acceptable substitute.
	First of all, we set up a system where a state DMV would have to check against other states.
	Now wait for it.
	Wait for it.
	You're going to love this.
	...databases.
	And secondly, they restricted driver's licenses only to people who are legally present in the United States.
	This is an attempt at standardizing all 50 states' driver's licenses.
	Florida Senator Bill Nelson supports the concept of Real ID while acknowledging its personal privacy concerns.
	That will help when you're checking somebody's ID to see if they are who they say they are.
	There's just one problem.
	Only 15 states have met this year's deadline to adopt Real ID. 27 of the states have passed laws or resolutions against Real ID. Eight more states have done nothing.
	It becomes like a permission slip from school.
	Chris Calabrese serves as legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union in Washington, D.C. Where things you used to be able to do as a free American, like vote and work, now suddenly you've got to get permission from the government to do those things through a national ID card.
	But it's not the federal government.
	It's individual states that are collecting your personal information.
	And for the most part, those states are relying on private corporations to collect the data.
	Does that raise even more troubling issues?
	It does.
	I mean, for the private corporations, this is like surveillance on steroids.
	Because they use it to make money.
	And we're talking big money.
	The Department of Homeland Security estimates it will eventually cost nearly $10 billion to implement Real ID nationwide.
	According to the U.S. Senate Office of Public Records, the list of private companies wanting to participate in Real ID skyrocketed from 15 in 2001 to nearly 900 last year.
	Now, who could be a part of this?
	One of the leading companies benefiting from all this is L1 Identity Solutions.
	We're suggesting by putting this card in front of someone that we are who we claim to be.
	Former Coast Guard Commandant and Homeland Security Deputy Secretary James Loy was the first director of TSA. Loy now serves on L1's Board of Directors.
	Oh, I love this.
	It took me like a couple minutes to get to the beauty part, but here he is, a former Homeland Security officer, Gitmo Nation, shut up, slave worker.
	And I think after six months, he left to serve on the board of this company that's now turning around and selling shit to us slaves.
	Now listen to his clarification and his reasoning behind how cool and okay it is to do this.
	Our challenge is to make certain that in this public utilization of that data, it is protected.
	Six months after the Real ID Act was signed into law, Loy left the government.
	And now, as an L-1 board member, makes money off the very program he helped create.
	That's absolutely perfectly legitimate, and if I can help them do that, and the shareholders of the company are beneficiaries as a result, so be it.
	That's part of a good American economic way of doing business.
	That's right.
	Capitalism at its best.
	That's capitalism for you.
	Play the douchebag thing.
	It's unbelievable.
	Douchebag!
	Unbelievable.
	So I'm like, L1, huh?
	Sounds a lot like L3, doesn't it?
	So I figure I'd go look at L1. What is this company all about?
	Because, of course, this is where the news breaks down.
	The news ain't going to go any further than that.
	We've got to move on to some drama and some blood and local...
	Miley Cyrus.
	There you go.
	Who had a horrible dress on, according to the fashion police.
	Just dreadful.
	Just dreadful, yes.
	Oh, by the way, Sarah Jessica Parker.
	Just horrible shoes.
	So then the Biometrics Task Force.
	There's like a porn gathering.
	Which is, the government is there, and it's just, this website, which is linked in the show notes, knowagendershow.com, it's just unbelievable when you see all, I mean, there's video, there's all kinds of different companies selling stuff, and here's this woman, I think on behalf of Elle, she must be part of the Well, let's listen to the clip.
	I'm not going to play all of it, but you'll get the idea as to what the actual plan is.
	Now, you've just heard the way they do it is they set it up.
	We set up some ideas in government.
	We'll pass a couple of laws.
	Then we leave to go help out the company and shepherd the contracts in and make a bundle.
	It's all about money, not about your safety, your security, or mine.
	By the way, this is a promotional video for L1. I'm telling you, L1 is great!
	They're going to track your every single move.
	Your face, your palm, your ass.
	We've got it all.
	And I've got to tell you, L1 Communications, they are the future!
	Ah, shit.
	The intro was longer than I expected.
	Sorry.
	Hi, this is Zach Martin, editor of Regarding ID Magazine and ThirdFactor.com at the Biometric Consortium Conference in Tampa.
	Today we spoke with Lisa Swan of the Biometric Task Force about how the DOD is using biometrics in theater in Iraq and Afghanistan.
	So again, you've just got to wait for a minute as she talks about, yeah, theater, Iraq, Afghanistan, but then all of a sudden the monkey comes out of the sleeve, as we say in the Netherlands.
	Event and hide, again, are two of the systems that we're using, and they are the most prevalent systems in theater.
	Both can be used for verification.
	For identification, typically when we're enrolling someone, we will use something like the bat has more capability.
	The bat.
	And they have this logo of a bat, John.
	It's awesome.
	And by the way, this is for enrollment.
	Notice the fine use of the word enrollment.
	I like that.
	Yeah, very good.
	It just takes effort.
	Yeah, because you can enroll someone into prison, but you can enroll them into school or Boy Scouts, for all I care.
	However, Hyde also can be used.
	Hyde.
	H-I-I-D-E. The hide, the difference with the hide is that it is a handheld.
	It can be taken a lot of places that the bat really isn't practical.
	The downside is the hide has to plug into the bat to download its records and to upload its watch listing capabilities.
	So both can be used for both applications.
	It just depends really on what you're trying to do and where in terms of which you would choose.
	And actually, hide and bat the biometrics automated toolset are...
	Biometrics automated toolset, John.
	This is what it's all about.
	We've got to get our biometrics.
	And by the way, there's a reason, I believe, when you're in the scanner, that you have to face one certain way and hold your hands up with your palms out against the scanner.
	I believe that they're taking your palm biometrics.
	There's no other reason for you to have to do that, is there?
	I can't think of any.
	And we know that there's some reports of them saving facial pictures.
	Of course, they could just take a picture of you, but no.
	I think that biometrics are being tracked in these scanners.
	The two most prevalent systems that we're using in theater today.
	But there are other systems.
	It's in theater, but that's about to change.
	As well.
	And we use them for a variety of applications.
	We use them for taking biometrics from detainees, for example, to record their information so we can tell if we have encountered these people before.
	We also use biometrics to verify the identity of individuals.
	Is this person who they claim to be?
	And an example of that would be for someone who is a non-U.S. citizen but working on a U.S. facility.
	Their biometric credential says, yes, this person is who they claim to be.
	We know them, they're vetted, and they're okay to be in this place.
	So those are two examples.
	We also use biometrics for, I'm sorry, not detaining operations, but...
	Standby!
	Checkpoints!
	Checkpoints!
	As someone is entering an area, perhaps...
	Sounds a lot like those TSA checkpoints!
	Random checks.
	Again, it's, do we know this person?
	Have we encountered them before?
	Or is this person who they claim to be?
	Just a verification.
	As you know, biometrics have been around for a long time.
	And fingerprints have been the...
	Oh, yeah.
	You know that.
	Hey, slave, you know that.
	It's been around for a long time.
	Shut up, slave.
	You know this.
	It's nothing new.
	The method of choice, if you will.
	Who is this woman?
	She's with the Department of Defense.
	She's with the military.
	But listen to what she's about to say.
	She's about to blow your mind.
	...into other modalities.
	We're now certainly using a lot of iris.
	We're using palm, facial, moving toward DNA. And so we'll continue to...
	It's all the things that are being introduced into the civilian life right now.
	Palm, fingerprints, DNA, all that, checkpoints.
	This is words that we use today in our civilian securite.
	Explore and embrace new modalities and also to look at biometrics at a distance.
	How can we do things further away?
	How can we do things less intrusively?
	How can we do them?
	Less intrusive.
	It's all the same stuff.
	Cheaper.
	How can we do them faster?
	You know, the old adage of faster, better, cheaper.
	But it really plays a play.
	As funding starts to come down, the systems have to be more cost effective.
	And also, they have to be able to scale to handle a very large population.
	A very large population, John.
	We're not talking about prisons here, I don't think.
	Do you?
	A very large population.
	Where could that population be?
	So I think you'll see us moving in that direction in terms of the technology and also the policy to allow us to use biometrics across a variety of fronts.
	Ah, ah, the technology and the legal framework here to use this technology across a variety of fronts.
	Ooh, I'm getting chills!
	Our focus to date has been mostly on the military application side, but I believe where we're headed for the future is on the friendly side, using biometrics to support services, to enable applications like access to financial records.
	Oh, right, of course.
	Friendly.
	Access to financial records.
	Access to medical services.
	Oh, medical services, like the Obama health care bill.
	For our U.S. population.
	Our U.S. population.
	Thank you.
	Three minutes and 33 seconds to get to that point, but there it is.
	Our U.S. population.
	Thank you very much.
	That's what it's all about.
	Well, congratulations to the 27 states who are resisting this so far.
	Yeah, California, unfortunately, not one of them.
	California's in on the game.
	It's stupid.
	Well, it's a bunch of Democrats.
	What do you expect?
	Anyway, so then there's...
	When the Democrats become these pushovers for government intrusion, they actually...
	You know, did I mention the Sinclair Lewis story last show?
	I don't think so.
	Sinclair Lewis was a very famous writer who wrote The Jungle and everybody has to read that book at least once in their life.
	The Jungle?
	Yeah, The Jungle.
	It's about the meatpacking industry in Chicago.
	Oh, okay.
	This is one for the book club.
	This is one for the book club.
	I have not read this.
	The Jungle.
	Yes, The Jungle.
	So, Sinclair Lewis is a socialist, and he self-published a lot of books, and he's a very interesting character, and he ran for governor of California, almost one, and the special that's now on TCM, Moguls in Hollywood, talk about the fact that it was actually the Hollywood folks that derailed his campaign because he was on his way to becoming governor of California, and his main focus was to repeal the state sales tax.
	So I'm wondering how the Democrats, Socialists, Progressives or whatever went from being this anti-taxation, freedom of speech, freedom of this, freedom of that, liberty, the whole thing, to being...
	If you talk to a Democrat today, they will tell you, if you ask them, that we should increase the taxes.
	We want more taxes.
	I mean, who does that?
	I mean, how did the Democrats go from becoming or being very libertarian in their outlook against taxes to being pro-taxation, going along with the program with stuff like this?
	I can answer that question.
	What the hell happened?
	It's real easy, because they know all they have to do is get the taxes, raise the money, then leave the government, go to a private organization, and go get the money that they just raised.
	That's what's happening.
	Don't you see that?
	The Republicans do that too.
	Of course they do that too.
	They all do it.
	They all do it.
	It's a bunch of corrupt crooks.
	is just peopled with these jokers.
	And the fact that this guy would be going for, and then to rationalize, yeah, I was in L1, I helped pass a lot, and I went over, and nobody thinks that, and there's no corruption investigation over this.
	And then meanwhile, we have Chris Matthews jumping all over this woman on the last show, I would recommend listening to it again, who just came out to mention that Chertoff is involved with this same kind of scam, being on one side of the story, pushing a certain agenda, and then jumping ship and going over.
	And then he bitches about it?
	At least Chertoff waited a year and is only consulting.
	This guy, literally, he was responsible for the legislation, leaves after six months, and is on the board of a company and actually is proud of it.
	That's the American way.
	That's the capitalist system at its best.
	That's what he says.
	It's absolutely not true.
	It's the capitalist system at its worst.
	That's unbelievable.
	Okay.
	Anyway, John, I got some great news for you.
	The science is in!
	There's a website.
	There's a website for us.
	There's a website.
	And, you know, science has come under severe distress recently.
	By the way, back up a second.
	I said Upton Sinclair, didn't I? Or did I say Sinclair Lewis?
	Sinclair Lewis.
	It's Upton Sinclair.
	I'm sorry.
	I always confuse those two names.
	I'll go back up.
	It's Upton Sinclair who ran for governor.
	And Upton Sinclair who wrote the jungle.
	Sorry.
	Upton Sinclair.
	We will strike that from the record.
	Yeah, it's embarrassing.
	Not as embarrassing as the website ScienceCheerleader.com I suggest you surf to that right now.
	ScienceCheerleader.com Because, of course, science has a bad rap.
	Really, really bad rap.
	Because science is now, of course, equated to guys who lie and make up shit to pretend that the world is overheating.
	And now we've got hot chicks to take over from them.
	Woo! Science! Go Science! Go Science!
	I cheered for the Houston Texans in 2005, 6, and 7.
	I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Aerospace Engineering from Wichita State University, and I currently work at NASA's Johnson Space Center as an engineer.
	So this website is nothing but hot chicks who are all scientists.
	It is awesome!
	I'm telling you.
	Listen, a couple more.
	And by the way...
	You sound like a dipshit.
	They're hot, they're great, they're cheerleaders, and they're smart.
	Hi, Jesus!
	I come from a family of science.
	My dad was a chemist.
	Oh, I just remember being a little girl, and my parents asked me what I wanted for Christmas, and I said, a microscope set.
	A microscope set.
	From a little girl, I remember my mom, she was a registered nurse.
	She really made a difference in the lives of the patients, and I knew from right then that I wanted to work in healthcare.
	Notice how they moved from science to healthcare.
	I am a former Washington Redskins cheerleader.
	I got an undergrad degree in molecular biology.
	I worked at the NIH for a couple years.
	Then I went to law school at Georgetown University.
	I was a patent attorney.
	And after that, I went to medical school at George Washington University.
	Yay!
	And I'm hot!
	And I moved to Houston, Texas and did an internship in general surgery.
	And now I'm an emergency medicine doctor in Houston, Texas.
	Science!
	Well, I could go on and on.
	Unbelievable.
	I mean, for one thing, I like to know who these people are so I can avoid them.
	I sure don't want her as my doctor.
	Were you kidding me?
	I'm like, oh, excuse me, I have to take my pants off.
	Well, yeah, maybe she's going to give you an exam if you know what I mean, but beside the point, I mean, she's just a fast talk and she sounds stupid.
	These people are...
	They're scientists.
	We're breaking through the stereotypes here, John.
	That's the message.
	So scientists should be fast-talking and talking like this?
	Yeah, with big boobs.
	That's the way it is.
	I'm a scientist.
	I've gotten a degree.
	I've gotten a degree right here.
	That's one mother I'd like to.
	They're hot.
	Yeah, I'm sure they are hot.
	Why would they put them on if they weren't?
	Well, they're here to help you understand that science is not just a bunch of losers who hide out and write emails about how to cover up their non-discoveries.
	They're actually hot chicks.
	So, uh?
	I mean, it works for me.
	I'm like, Scooby-Doo!
	Okay.
	Science is good!
	Science!
	Science!
	Hey, baby, can you bring your science over here?
	I need to check something.
	I love it.
	ScienceCheerleaders.com.
	I'm going to make that my homepage.
	You sure this just isn't bull crap?
	No, man.
	This is a huge...
	Look at the website.
	This is a huge movement.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me check this out.
	ScienceCheerleaders.com.
	Science policy in the news.
	NPR did a whole story on them.
	Oh, then it must be true.
	Then it's official.
	You know that.
	More diversité science engineering.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Meet Marcy, Pro Bowl Cardinals cheerleader and electrical engineer.
	Oh, baby.
	I got some wires I need uncrossing.
	ScienceCheerleaders.com?
	I'm not getting it.
	Yeah, www.
	Is there a dash in there or something?
	No, no.
	Cheerleader.com, sorry.
	ScienceCheerleader.com.
	Well, you'd think if they were that smart, they would have gotten the other domain names.
	It's a babe fest.
	I'm totally loving it.
	I like the girl with the big horn standing at him.
	They're awesome.
	This is such bullcrap.
	It's awesome.
	I'm convinced.
	And whenever someone says the science is in, I'm like, if she's saying it, it is.
	I'm in, too.
	I'm in.
	You've convinced me.
	It worked.
	Science.
	We'll do that little rap at the end.
	It's kind of cute here.
	stereotype.
	Go science! Go science! Go science!
	Let's go science!
	The science is in!
	I love me some science.
	I wanted a microscope.
	A microscope kid or set.
	She couldn't even say microscope.
	It was a microscope kid.
	A microscope.
	Microscope.
	Meet Allison, dual degrees and bio and chem, former captain of the Eagles.
	Oh, yes.
	Thanks.
	Well, there's a reason for this, of course, because I predict these science cheerleaders will be on a national tour promoting the benefits of influenza vaccination.
	I don't even have to write that down.
	You're absolutely correct.
	This is going to be one of these.
	This is a setup for...
	It's like Donald Trump is behind the whole thing.
	I hope so.
	So there's huge PR opportunities.
	Actually, we're stupid, John, because we could be raking in the dough.
	The Rand Corporation just published a report about the concern, as the CDC commissioned this report, very, very concerned that there's no public acceptance for the science of vaccinations.
	And I've read the report, so you don't have to.
	I will read the pertinent paragraph from the Rand Corporation, by the way, a big part of the military-industrial complex.
	These guys, they think it up and then everyone in Congress does it.
	Despite the importance of public acceptance, the science, science, I just had a vision, science, that would clarify the best way of informing and motivating the public is severely underdeveloped.
	It's the science that's underdeveloped.
	Well, how can indifferent or negative attitudes towards vaccination be changed?
	Hey, I'll tell you something.
	These girls aren't underdeveloped.
	In the morning.
	A quick look at publicly funded research on the topic of influenza and influenza vaccination made possible by the Research Portfolio online reporting tool from the National Institutes of Health indicates that over the past decade, more than 95% of the funding has been devoted to biomedical topics rather than to social and behavioral science.
	The science is in!
	I would say these national, the science cheerleaders, they're on the cutting edge because they're going to rake in the dough because listen to this.
	The Rand Corporation says clearly cutting edge laboratory science to enhance the safety and effectiveness of vaccines is vital to public health, but it is equally important to understand the forces that shape public views about the risks and benefits of vaccination.
	Without this knowledge, it will be impossible to translate biomedical advances into effective action.
	So we need to get us some hot chicks with big boobs to tell you that science is good.
	Investments that enhance public acceptance of vaccination will yield substantial returns.
	Sounds like an investment strategy to me, John.
	In the form of reduced...
	The connection...
	Sorry?
	Did I lose you?
	The connection dropped down.
	Don't worry, I was talking about boobs.
	Investments that enhance public acceptance of vaccination will yield substantial returns in the form of reduced incidence and severity of disease, as well as enhance pandemic preparedness.
	A more balanced research portfolio is likely to be more successful than one that is heavily weighted towards biomedical research alone.
	We are fortunate the pandemic that just passed was milder than expected.
	Next time, we may not be so lucky.
	So here's the Rand Corporation, who are very important in policy in these United States of Gitmo Nation, saying we need to put a lot of money into, what do they call it here?
	Social and behavioral science.
	So I think that some smart guy, probably like the guy who started...
	MySpace.
	It sounds like that guy would do this.
	Has said, you know what?
	I need to get me some of that money.
	I'm going to go get some hot babes and promote science.
	Yeah, and have them give the vaccinations, too.
	Oh, I'm lined up.
	You know what?
	You know what?
	It won't hurt.
	I think that might be...
	Put that in the prediction book.
	Telling you.
	And look at...
	Everyone's in on the game.
	Just look at me.
	Just look at me.
	Here it comes.
	Citibank is now offering a flu care card to companies that will enable each of the human resources in possession of said card to get a flu vaccination at more than 17,000 pharmacies and retail clinics.
	You know, Citibank is not doing this out of the goodness of their heart, okay?
	They're doing it for money.
	Everyone is in on this, John.
	Except us.
	The more I do this show, the more stupid I think we are.
	We think we're making people smart.
	We're pointing out how dumb we are.
	We should be out there doing some scam.
	Like the government guys or PBS or NPR or all the rest of them are these cheerleaders.
	I mean, come on.
	I mean, how much of this can we stand in this country?
	Well, luckily neither you or I have young kids anymore, otherwise we'd be freaking out.
	Adam from Grand Rapids, Michigan says, in the morning, Adam and John, my wife said my four-year-old was playing a game on PBS's website and heard some messed up stuff.
	There's a game called Super Duper Antibodies on the PBS Sid the Science Kid page.
	Go to the page, play the game.
	It will take you about 15 seconds to get to the end and there is a payoff.
	And I swear to God, John, if you look at this pbskids.org slash sid slash games dot html, I swear to God, there's Sid the Science Douche.
	And there's this little Super Duper Antibodies.
	Here we go.
	We're going to play Super Duper Antibodies.
	And we click on that.
	And then here's Sid with a giant hypodermic needle.
	Boys, that is arm.
	Come on, Sid.
	Talk to me.
	Hold on.
	It's the memes to get people to use heroin.
	Apparently.
	Hold on.
	It's loading up.
	This is a little ladybug.
	This vaccination is a teeny tiny bit of the flu virus.
	It'll teach your body how to fight the flu virus.
	Oh, and then you click on the...
	Let's fight the flu virus!
	Now we click on the hypodermic needle, which is as big as Sid's head, and it goes, ooh, it's injecting him!
	Mmm, yum!
	You have the evil virus thingies!
	Ooh!
	Anyway, then you gotta, like, get some...
	Now, what, this is an NPR... PBS! PBS! Thank you very much.
	PBS. Wow.
	Yeah, it's unbelievable.
	It's just every show we do.
	It's just one thing after another.
	We can't win.
	Not only can we not win, we're stupid.
	We can't win and we're stupid.
	Although I think that we could probably get in on the hot chicks dishing out flu shots.
	We could probably still get in on that one.
	I like that.
	I'm liking that.
	So before you go to your last bits...
	I do have one last thing.
	I want to get this one clip out of the way because I was going to play it last week.
	But this is just for the people out there who are following the Afghanistan thing and what's going on in the background.
	I just found this clip to be slightly amusing.
	It's about what's going on in terms of negotiations, not the fake negotiator from the Taliban, but what's generally going on with the negotiations in Afghanistan.
	Play hack to death.
	...actions of the Taliban when we were in Afghanistan, and some of them are still loyal to Mullah Mohammed Omar.
	Others are members of the Haqqani Network, which is backed by Pakistan and the ISI spy agency there.
	And then you have people that are sort of freelancers.
	You know, one of the most disturbing things we heard is that Mullah Omar, the emir of the Taliban, the Afghan Taliban, Sent an envoy to meet with a new Taliban commander who was replacing an old school Taliban guy, and they hacked to death Mullah Omar's envoy.
	These guys are a much more radical generation.
	So when the U.S. is killing these Taliban commanders, and we read about it every day, what the Taliban, the old school guys are telling us is, look, this new generation of guys, they won't negotiate with you the way that we would.
	We actually ran a government.
	You may think it was a horrible government, but we at least have some semblance of knowledge about diplomacy.
	Do you think they have a 401k plan at Al-Qaeda?
	Hey, that's the guy to death.
	So they say, he sends an envoy, hey, I want you to go meet with these guys.
	This is a new group I'd ever heard of, a bunch of young punks.
	Okay, I'll go.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, what's going on?
	Here's a message for you.
	Oh my God.
	We laugh, but we're not really happy about it.
	No.
	You know, when you're just a few years older than me, John, but don't you just get, like, dismayed?
	Well, actually, at some point it becomes high comedy.
	I mean, I'm already at the high comedy stage.
	Maybe I'm just old at heart.
	But this is the only way I can...
	And I think that's my message to the human resources who listen to this show who sometimes get bummed out.
	You have to see the humor in all of this.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	I mean...
	Yeah, it's actually borderline hilarious.
	Yeah, but how come not really?
	How come this is little thing?
	It's sick humor.
	Let me ask you another question.
	So, President Obama got elbowed.
	Yeah, I wonder about this story myself.
	Twelve stitches.
	That's quite an elbow, by the way.
	Before you go on with your theory, let me say what I think.
	Just off the top of my head.
	I played pickup basketball when I was working for the government.
	It's one of the things you do when you're a government worker.
	That's the only thing you do.
	What do you say?
	Well, you should.
	That's what you should be doing.
	So you pull over and you go play some games and you meet a lot of different kinds of personalities when you play pickup basketball or even with your friends.
	Your friends are worse.
	And there's certain obnoxious...
	Excuse me, let me interrupt.
	What is pickup basketball?
	Pick a basketball where there's a bunch of basketball courts all over the country, and there's a bunch of guys standing around shooting basketball or playing basketball.
	And generally speaking, when a critical mass forms, somebody says, let's have a game, and two captains are chosen, and then they pick sides.
	You're on this side, you're on that side, and you go, and you play a game until you get bored of it.
	And usually full court, which is really the most...
	Grueling thing you can imagine doing.
	Good exercise.
	But there's these people that play this dirty basketball.
	They step on your foot if you're trying to jump.
	They elbow you when they're inside.
	They're dirty players.
	And the only way you can get hit with an elbow is when two dirty players are bumping up against each other.
	And Obama sounds to me, and he loves this game, it's the only thing he plays...
	That's not true.
	He plays golf.
	That's not true.
	Oh, that's right.
	He plays golf.
	But I bet you Bucky's a dirty player.
	He's one of those guys that bumps into you.
	Yeah, I'm the president.
	Shut up, slave!
	I'm going for the layout.
	And somebody jumped up and then gave him the elbow right in the face.
	Not somebody.
	Not somebody.
	It was the guy from the Hispanic caucus.
	Well, he didn't like it.
	So my question is, do they have to rough up the other Obama as well?
	Because we know we have two.
	Yeah, and they're going to have this other Obama...
	Hey, Bill.
	Hey, I got bad news for you, man.
	I thought it wasn't neat until we do the Korean trip.
	No, no, give me a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Hey, look over there.
	Boom!
	Somebody raps him one.
	Sorry, man.
	Twelve stitches, though.
	That's a lot.
	That is a lot.
	It kind of reminds me of, remember when Bush choked on the pretzel?
	That was another one of those stories that, mm-hmm.
	My favorite all-time presidential story was the original Bush puking all over the Japanese premiere.
	I think my uncle was at that dinner.
	He said it was not pretty.
	Oh, man.
	It was not pretty.
	Yeah, so I wondered about that.
	The only thing I picked up, which I thought was just interesting, is Sheila C. Baer, B-A-I-R, who is the woman who runs the FDIC and the Federal Deposit Insurance.
	Is it a corporation?
	I think it is, right?
	Yep.
	So these are the folks that say they guarantee the money in the bank.
	And I think that she did an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, and I think that she is, this is a huge CYA, as we call it in the United States of Gitmo Nation, as in cover your ass.
	And she has a lot of ass to cover, apparently.
	A pertinent quote from her opinion that she penned in the Wall Street Journal.
	The quiet confidence of the American public in the FDIC's deposit insurance guarantee was one of the bulwarks.
	Good word, by the way.
	Bulwark.
	What is a bulwark?
	You know, bull is like one of the pillars, the most stable thing, one of the most important things.
	Word of the day, I'd say.
	Bull work.
	B-U-L-W-A-R-K-S. The bull work that helped to stem the tide in the recent crisis and avert even greater economic calamity.
	I presume what she means is because there was no bank run.
	Right?
	But we must never take public or investor confidence for granted.
	In the end, that confidence is only as great as the resolve shown by our government in identifying emerging risks and taking concerted action to head them off.
	Excessive government borrowing poses a clear danger to our long-term financial stability.
	All of us must work together now as Americans, look beyond our narrow partisan interests, and show the world that we are prepared to act boldly to secure our economic future.
	To me, she's saying, hey, slaves, you're fucked!
	I don't know.
	I don't know that I agree 100% with that, but it's possible.
	What she's saying is the confidence...
	What she's suggesting is that, hey, what's gone so far may not happen in the future.
	She's not saying the big stack of Cash I've got here in the FDIC. Oh, they're broke.
	Yeah, of course.
	Totally broke.
	The quiet confidence of the American...
	The words matter, John.
	The quiet confidence of the American public in the FDIC's Deposit Insurance Guarantee.
	It's one of the bulwarks.
	So the quiet confidence.
	What the hell does that mean?
	Quiet confidence.
	It means get your money out.
	Yes.
	This is actually a warning.
	It is.
	Thank you.
	Message.
	Move your money to someplace other than the bank.
	This is exactly what it is.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for agreeing with me, because that's the way I read it, too.
	I'm like, whoa, you've got to be kidding me.
	It's a hidden message.
	Uh-huh.
	You have a few months.
	Don't worry about it, or maybe not.
	Ha, ha.
	Well, I think 65% of next year's money is going to just Medicare and Social Security, right?
	And then the other 65% is going to the war, and then the other 65% is going to Chertoff and those guys.
	Crooks.
	Isn't that kind of the way it goes?
	Yep.
	Well, okay, I think we did a good show this week.
	I want to remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. Or NoAgendaShow.com.
	And click on the link there.
	And make sure to get some people to listen.
	We want to thank all the $5 subscribers.
	We need to get a few more of you out there.
	And we'll be set for a couple weeks.
	2,000 more.
	Yeah, that'd be nice.
	That would be phenomenal.
	So please, if you're listening to this show and you have not supported us and you found some value in what you heard today, if only just to drop a bomb at a cocktail party.
	And we also, from time to time, teach you how to do that without getting hit in the mouth.
	Without being Obama'd.
	Obama.
	Professor Obama to you.
	I'm so sorry.
	Sorry, Dr.
	Dvorak.
	What am I thinking?
	All right.
	I appreciate everyone showing up in the chat room and on the stream.
	And we will be here again Thursday.
	Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the Great People's Republic of Southern California, where I soon will have a star on my driver's license.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'd rather have a Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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