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I told her she was spewing old propaganda.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, December 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 258.
This is no agenda.
Tracking the persistent jet contrails here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Get My Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning.
I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where it looks like the weather is taking a turn for the worse.
Well, maybe not.
I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Alright, I'm not quite sure what that was.
I don't know, I didn't plan anything.
I have to actually write stuff down.
That was like a really bad zoo opening.
Well, maybe not.
The weather's taking a turn for the worse, everybody!
Our opening is a bad zoo opening.
Hey, in the morning to you, John.
In the morning to you, Adam, and all ships at sea.
And all boots on the ground and our human resources who are in the chat room right now as we do the show live at noagendachat.net.
Charged up and ready to go exactly the way their government loves them because we're collecting body parts.
Do you realize we've probably spent more time with that little ditty on the one sailor who actually listens to this show and the two guys that happen to be in a trench somewhere?
You know, I wouldn't be so cavalier about it.
I have a feeling that we've got a lot of boots on the ground, and I think we have more ships at sea than you realize.
Everyone in the Gulf of Aden is like, Yo!
Yo, it's on!
You can stop, you can stop.
Get your fishing nets out!
The Stargate is opening, they're on again!
Here come the fish.
Yeah, exactly.
Somebody's got to restock the fish.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Oh, my goodness.
Everything's beeping here.
We have quite a few executive producers for today's show, so I want to get those out of the way so we can get to the meat of the show.
Well, this is a good thing.
Yeah, well, it is a good thing for us.
Okay.
So, first of all, we want to thank our old pal, the Sir, our number one patron, as a matter of fact, Stephen Pelsmacher from Awans, Belgium.
From where in Belgium?
I don't know.
Alwans.
I thought it was from Antwerp.
Oh, Alwans?
That's what it says on this thing.
Who knows?
I mean, somebody's moaning about the PayPal being inaccurate with everything.
But anyway, Sir Pelsmarkers gave 6-12-10, and he has a note that you're going to read part of, which explains it.
Okay.
Sinterklaas Kapoentje, leg wat in hun schoentje, leg wat in hun laarsjes, want Adam and John zijn hele goeie baasjes.
Stop!
So today, December 4th, is traditionally in Gitmo Nation lowlands, the day when all children put their boots outside for the good St.
Nicholas to drop presents.
Steal their boots on the ground.
USA, that's what would happen.
Steal their boots off the ground.
No, the Good Sint, Nicholas.
Now, this is actually kind of interesting because I think it's today the 4th or the 5th?
No, it's the 4th, right?
Today is actually the 5th.
Yesterday was the 4th.
Is today the 5th?
Well, then I screwed it all up, didn't I? How did you screw it up?
I said December 4th.
It's December 5th.
Oh, you mean at the opening of the show?
Yes.
Oh, how about that?
Yeah.
Gee, what a surprise.
So December 5th is traditionally the day when the kids put their boots on the ground outside.
And then the good Saint Nick who rides a white horse and he arrives on a steamship from Spain with his black peats, which now has become incredibly politically incorrect.
He no longer has black peats.
I think they've written them out of the script.
But they used to be just Black Peets.
What's a Black Pete?
Well, he's a black dude.
You got like the Head Pete.
His name is Pete, so they're called Peets, Black Peets.
And you got the Head Pete, and he's in charge of all the other Peets.
And they run around and they terrorize the children.
So if you've been bad, then they hit you with sticks and shove you in a burlap bag.
This is a terrible story.
This is what it is.
But it's a big party.
Yeah, with all the kids out of the way, the parents just go drinking.
Yeah, it's a big drinking party for parents.
Now you got it.
But that's their version of Santa Claus, because they don't really have a Santa Claus.
We have the Sinterklaas who comes on the steamship from Spain with his black piece.
Why is he coming from Spain?
Because Spain used to rule all of the world.
It's a throwback.
It's crazy.
It's totally crazy, believe me.
And, of course, now we basically have Christmas in the lowlands.
They've probably got Santa Claus walking around, too.
Well, you know, the funniest thing with you when you were discussing that sort of thing is if you go down to Rio in December and you're floating around Brazil, which is the middle, this is like the hottest time of the year.
It is boiling.
It's like 100 degrees.
And there's all these Santa Claus's.
With the reindeer and the trees.
Well, that is kind of like Los Angeles is weird that way, too.
And it turns out we're in one of those streets where we have two neighbors at war.
Oh, House Wars?
With the light stuff?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's great.
We saw it happen.
We saw, because of course, this is our first Christmas here, and we saw one side like, wow, this guy's got some lights going, and then on the other side, and now I said to Mickey, yes, he said, I think our house is perfect for, I think we can do a sleigh.
And it went reindeer on the roof.
And Mickey says, I'm totally fucking up the sync story.
Well, what am I doing wrong?
She just texted me.
She's listening?
Yeah, of course she's listening.
She's in the car.
She's on the way to a meeting.
A meeting?
Yeah.
Sunday, for God's sake.
Yeah, she works hard, man.
But, alright, so I guess I took all the romance out of the story.
Well, you could add, we could tell the story next week when we get closer to Chris.
Or I guess it would be farther away from December 2nd, which is, I guess, when, or the 3rd or the 5th.
No, the 5th.
And then, I don't know, man, I'm from America.
We always thought it was...
And by the way, this Sinterklaas, he also wears like a red robe.
He's got a...
Robe?
Oh yeah, pedo.
Hey kids!
He's got a pointy hat.
And he's got a big stick.
A big staff.
I got a stick for you.
I got a big staff for you, kids.
But he's very thin.
He's not fat like Santa Claus.
He's a skinny guy.
That's more like it.
He has pant legs taped to just the bottom of some pants taped to his legs.
But it's cute.
Actually, what the family tradition is, and this is kind of nice, is you all draw...
The big family comes together, usually not just household family, and then you'll draw lots before, like a couple weeks before, you'll draw a name out of the hat, and then you get the name on a piece of paper, and then you have to go buy something for that person and turn it into a surprise.
With a poem, which is about that person.
But you don't ever really say, oh, this is from me.
Yeah, this is what you do.
This is an office.
This has been transposed into an American tradition of doing that in the office where they don't want everybody buying everybody else gifts.
Right, right, right.
Grab bag.
And somebody invariably gets a box of candies that they don't want.
Well, the funny thing is there's always some joker who puts together a huge box Right?
And then you get this huge box as a present, and then you have to go through, like, wood chips, and molasses, and all kinds of weird crap in there.
It's hilarious.
And then at the bottom, there's, like, a gift certificate.
Yeah, right.
But I'm sure all the listeners in Gitmo Nation Lowlands are very disappointed with my explanation.
However, in the true spirit of the Sinterklaas faced and giving, Sir Stephen Pelsmacher has supported the show with $612.60.
And that is in honor of December 6, 210 written European style, which is also simultaneously the first down payment on a damehood for his godchild, Ruby.
Oh, good.
And Stephen, as far as I'm concerned, you are Sinterklaas, my friend.
He could be.
Who knows?
I mean, we've run the numbers.
He is without a doubt the top supporter of the show.
He is the George Soros of No Agenda.
And he's never, ever asked us to do anything for him.
Ever.
I don't think.
No, he hasn't even asked for a de-douching.
She's long beyond needing one.
Yeah, let me hand him a...
He needs a massive de-douche.
Oops, sorry, wrong one.
You've been de-douched.
That did nothing.
He gave a douche and a de-douche.
There's a de-douche.
There's a de-douche.
And I'm going to hand out some karma to him at the same time.
You've got karma.
Well, talking about douchebags, our next executive, we have two.
Thank you, sir.
Sir Stephen, by the way.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Goes without saying.
By the way, he would be a standalone executive producer along with Taylor Stewart who gave us 42424 from Calabasas, California.
And he says he's been a douchebag for way too long despite good intentions.
He's not gone around.
He loves the show.
His girlfriend and him love the combination of lightheartedness and on and on.
But he says he needs karma for his girlfriend.
She had a horrific run-in with the police.
Oh, no.
In Los Angeles, and we all know that they're one of the worst police departments around.
No, they're terrible.
They're one of the worst police departments around.
Where do you live again, Adam?
It was scary as hell, and it's a perfect story to demonstrate the extent to which the public servants have been brainwashed to believe we law-abiding citizens are the enemy.
What happened?
I want to tell the whole story after the case is won.
He's apparently in court here.
We're talking about some big money.
This is typical of these municipalities.
People run rampant.
They get sued.
They don't care because it's the taxpayers' money.
There will be some huge settlement, and it's too bad.
Nobody gets fired.
Nobody gets called on the carpet.
Nobody cares because the taxpayers eat it, and they don't care because they can't keep track of this stuff.
What happened?
He didn't say he won't tell us for a while.
But he's going to make his donation in two parts.
The 120.31 is significant to the court case.
You can probably look it up.
And the 30393, when added to the first donation, equals 42424.
I don't know.
We'll find out later.
So do we need to do a douchebag for the Los Angeles police?
No, he needs a karma thing for his girlfriend.
Oh, okay.
There you go.
Karma.
Coming at you.
You've got karma.
Wow.
Well, I'm going to have to look up what 120.31 means.
Wow.
Geez.
Anyway, so that's one of our listeners that's got his girlfriends in trouble or got in trouble and is suing.
Good.
Good.
Good for her.
Mark Koolin.
Now we've got a couple of associate executive producers.
I think it's Koolin.
Koolin.
Mark Koolin.
Koolin.
Fenhausen.
Fenhausen.
Another one.
Another Dutchman.
258.
He's in the 258 Club.
We have three this week.
Oh, wow.
Hello, AC and John.
Let me be your Sinterklaas.
Let me be your Sinterklaas.
Your life changers, indeed.
Keep it up.
Long-time producer here.
Dollar a show on the top of a monthly five bucks subscription.
So we're putting him in, is he an associate executive and in the 258 Club?
Is that how we run this?
Yeah, he's going to be an associate producer.
Associate executive producer.
And he's in the 258 Club.
Yeah, and there's only three members in the 258 Club, and there will only be three members ever.
He, by the way, he has something genetically unmodified.
Seeds, go to seedcare.com.
Charles Jordan from Milwaukee.
Sir Charles, I believe.
Sir Charles.
I'm sorry, Sir Charles.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 258.
Happy birthday to Dame Carol.
We'll get to that later.
He's the world famous Mai Tai's waiting at FoundationBar.com.
And by the way, there is a...
I don't want to tell people how to make drinks, but there is a weird Okali Howe, I think is the name of it, it's called Okali Howe.
It is a...
A weird liqueur made from tea leaves, but not the tea that you drink leaves.
It's a Ti, which is some unedible thing.
And it's a Hawaiian beverage that will knock your head off if you actually drank it.
And it's used as the secret ingredient in a lot of Mai Tais.
So take a look for it.
It's got a weird label.
It's called Okali How.
I can send you a picture if you want.
I think you should think about adding this little tidbit.
Another tip from your friends at No Agenda for getting hammered.
Uh, 258 from Captain Underpants in Lake Forest, Illinois.
It's his daughter's favorite series of books.
Finally, see how...
Wait a minute, there's a book series called Captain Underpants?
Apparently.
For little girls?
I don't know.
I'm putting the finishing touches on a new bomb detector I'll be selling to the TSA. It uses body cavity, anus, and sinus.
Holography to extract crystal clear imagery of bombs in the body.
Nice.
Hey, we're in.
We're totally in.
Must know if we want to invest.
He's currently negotiating with the current TSA director, John Pistoli, to represent us in Congress.
We won't even need him to resign from his current position.
We'll just provide him with a separate cell phone so he can call his own office from outside of the building.
Obviously, Captain Underpants has been drinking the old Coley alcohol.
He's all over that.
And that's actually it for today's executive and associate executive producers.
They all came in at a high number.
Okay.
A couple of brief PR mentions before we move on.
I would like to thank Kirk, producer Kirk from Dayton, Tennessee, now PR associate, who has been able to get the Media Assassin logo on WikiLeaks for about an hour.
Somehow he sent a screenshot.
I guess he got some ads rotating.
I didn't know they did ads.
Oh, it was the Facebook version.
Okay.
Facebook show.
The Facebook something version of WikiLeaks or whatever.
So that was good.
He sent a screenshot, and I think that certainly in these days that works.
Along those lines, our friend from Vajazzling.com has done outstanding work and has created banners for the No Agenda show in the stylings of Jimmy Wales.
And they are currently running on noagendaip.com.
They're great, by the way.
You've seen them, John?
Yeah.
Yeah, I want to use one on my blog.
It's like we're there for a personal appeal.
And we're going to get laid out of it, too.
I guarantee you.
Yeah.
I got a nice picture from Sir Randy Asher.
He has a box filled with the boarding pass lanyards.
They are in, so I guess the official boarding passes will be forthcoming soon, which is good.
And by the way, we have the two 101010 coins.
Eric now has them, and he will be shipping them out to everyone who ordered one.
And we also are going to make good on our own dime.
We are?
Okay, what are we making good?
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yeah, say it again.
There's about 20 or 30 people that did not get the original coin.
Oh, which of course no longer exists.
Well, yes.
Well, it's possible that we can have a few more made.
Okay.
Because we're asking them...
Eric is doing this, by the way.
You should thank him profusely.
Thank you, Eric.
He's been asking the people what they want.
Do they want a refund?
Do you want a refund?
You've got to do something.
Or do you still want the coin?
And almost everybody still wants the coin.
Because this coin is awesome.
So we're going to maybe have another...
They still keep it within the total number of coins.
In other words, you're not going to run more coins...
It's just the coins these guys ordered.
They didn't get.
We're going to have to have them made.
Special thanks to PR associate Sean Maysack, who wrote a very nice article about us on examiner.com.
I don't know if you saw that, John.
Nope.
Title, No Agenda Makes Podcasting Relevant and Profitable.
I don't know about the last part.
Well, he does talk about our value-for-value proposition in the piece, which is really nice.
I thought one line was really nice here.
Here it is.
Karin Dvorak may be the first professional podcasters to make a living.
It should have been, in quotes or in parentheses, although a very sparse one.
Doing a show that is truly independent, insightful, and listener-supported.
He does get into the whole fact that there's no one yanking our chain because we don't take money from commercial entities.
So I thought that was very nice.
Then, finally...
And by the way, people should realize that it does make a difference.
Oh, hello.
I mean, it really makes a huge difference.
I mean, there's certain things you just can't do when you're getting money from somebody.
Precisely.
Because you're their slave.
Yeah.
And then I'd like to say hi and thanks to Sigma, producer Sigma, who has created a bat signal for Linux machines.
And I will place a link to his GitHub project in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com.
The app uses HTTPS to connect to Twitter, so it's secure in that sense and should be stable, no bugs.
He's a full-time college student.
Finals are near.
So he says, hey, it's a simplistic little thing, but it works.
So essentially, when I send out the bat signal, now everyone running Ubuntu or any other form of Linux will also receive the bat signal on their Linux device, which is cool.
I like that.
The more people hook into this, the better, I think.
So we highly appreciate that.
And of course, thanks to our executive producer, standalone executive producer for this episode, Sir Stephen Pelsmackers, Taylor Stewart, Sir Charles Jordan, and Kat Munderpants, this episode's associate executive producer.
I'm sorry, Taylor, I messed it up, Taylor Stewart.
Did I get it all right?
Yeah, I did.
They're also in the 258 Club.
And Mark Cullen, there we go.
That's the one I was missing.
Of course, this is an official credit, and you can put it anywhere.
Official credits are accepted, with the only difference being, unlike Hollywood, we will actually vouch for you when you call up, and you won't have to just talk to our secretary.
Everybody else out there, you can support us by doing this simple thing, propagating our formula.
Our goal is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New world order.
All right, everybody say it loud and proud now.
Shut up, slave!
And that's it for today's show.
We'll be back again next week.
Oh, no, not really.
I got plenty of stuff for today.
It was a good week.
I had, you know, Kevin the Blade, the intern that I've been able to hire, thanks to the support of people on the show, has been working on the Big App Show, so I had a lot of time to do stuff, and I think it's going to pay off.
Well, I didn't get that much accomplished.
I mean, I ended up watching a lot of C-SPAN, followed a very good exposition on the Arab lobby, which brought up to...
Unfortunately, the guy gave a long hour of speech.
I only got a couple of clips that are worth...
I mean, I could condense down.
But it just confirmed our normal beliefs that we have here on this show as part of our...
I guess our generalized theses about certain people like Bill Clinton, for example.
And, in fact, I don't know if you want to get into that now or later, if you have something that's really hot.
I mean, the one thing I do want to mention at the top of the show, which is the fact that Ron Paul came out in support of WikiLeaks, saying that the truth is the way people should be oriented toward the truth, and he can't understand why everybody's upset about this.
Well, the...
There's one thing I want to say about that.
And which contrasts with Huckabee and Palin.
By the way, I want to mention to everybody out there that when surveys are done with the original Tea Party group and they said who should be president, they all said Ron Paul.
And then nobody ever heard of Palin having anything to do with the Tea Party.
Now she's taking it over.
Hijacked.
And she said the poor guy, Assange, should be tried for treason.
He's not even an American.
So, first of all, and I think Congressman Paul is absolutely right.
However, what I took a little bit of offense towards is the way the message has been changed in blogs and articles is Ron Paul takes a stand and supports Julian Assange.
That is not exactly what he did.
He did not say Assange is a good guy.
He said the truth is always good to get out there.
He said something very, very different.
But every single email I received about it is, oh, you know, the titles literally are.
Let me see if I can find one of these titles.
Literally, Ron Paul supports Julian Assange, backs him up.
That's true.
He was more or less supporting the concept.
Yes, exactly.
I don't think he's ever met Julian Assange.
No.
You know, well, let's just stay on this for just a second, if you don't mind, the Ministry of Truth, because it's a very difficult...
topic for our listening group because the whole idea of someone taking government documents putting them out there uh leaking the documents and there's obviously some interesting stuff in there not much that i don't think we've discussed or at least uh presumed on this program and has turned out to be pretty much confirmed from these leaks uh
but when we come down on uh wiki leaks and julia and assange and say well you know the guy is clearly being is a front for either cia or military industrial complex people get uh confused uh And I want to see if I can put this into some context and I actually have some audio that may help a little bit.
The first thing is, when we say that someone is a front, I don't think it's actually like Julian Assange meets on the park bench with the guy with the newspaper handing him his...
Although, it could be.
It could be.
It could be.
But it's more like SimCity.
Okay?
So, there are people who play the real game of SimCity or FarmVille.
Maybe that's an even better example for you.
And, you know, you plant stuff, you put your sprouts in, you do your thing, and then people do things as behaviors, and the model of SimCity, you know, says, well, you may have too many small businesses, therefore your economy won't grow fast enough, you need some big businesses, and you need to borrow money.
And they play this, and they play people, and they do it in a number of ways.
And I was listening to an interview with Julian Assange.
He was interviewed by The Economist, and this was an on-camera interview.
Of course, the interview was completely chopped up and has been edited, so, you know, who the hell knows?
That's always, you've got to be very careful with those things.
But this was right after the first round of leaks, the Iraq videos and all the documents about 19,000 more people, servicemen and women being killed in foreign wars and was reported.
And so what they do with the economists is they have this tea time, and they sit down, they have tea with someone.
It's their little cutesy way of interviewing.
It's time to sit down and have some tea.
And I want you to listen very, very carefully.
I have three clips here.
And it really shows you how it works and what WikiLeaks is all about.
And then after you've heard this, you'll start realizing that all is not what it seems to be.
And you can easily be hoodwinked by what you think is a purely good move by a group who really stands for freedom of press, etc.
So the first thing, and this is an amazing piece of audio...
And I'm sure his mission has not changed in the past few months since the first release.
Listen to what he says about how these documents are actually leaked, and words do matter in this.
How would you characterize the response to the publication, and has it had the impact that you anticipated?
We can look at two kinds of response.
We can look at the media response and then the response by governments and other people.
I think it's still a bit too early to look at the second in detail.
It's still coming out.
But for the media response, our initial publishing group of guys...
Now, did you hear what he just said?
Boy, it's hard to understand him.
He says, our initial media publishing group, he's speaking of the mainstream media who actually, and you'll find this out in a moment, who are actually the true recipients of the leaks.
He speaks of them as his editorial, and he, by the way, is the editor.
Everything's about edit, edit, edit.
But he says the media group, his media group.
That's the one that, in this case, he's referring to the Guardian.
Yeah, he'll actually say it.
Listen to this.
And listen to how proud he is of his media group.
Our initial publishing group, the Guardian, New York Times, and the Spiegel, pushed very strongly on this.
Our initial media group pushed very strongly on this.
So he's very proud of his initial publishing group.
And I just think that the words matter in this one.
It's like, okay, so what does that mean, Initial Publishing Group?
Is that the group that you selected?
Is it the group that you've been in cahoots with?
And he actually answers it when he talks about what their true mission is.
Their true mission now.
This is Julia Assange, and I think this is really important.
Where did you get this?
Again, this is from an economist interview.
I did the whole lead-in.
Where were you?
Were you like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know, but where was it?
I don't see audio on the Economist's website.
Oh, well, I have the link in the show notes, noagendashow.com.
You can look at it yourself.
It's about ten minutes.
And it's edited, but this is directly from him.
So listen to this.
I understand that when you first launched WikiLeaks, or when it first began, that the idea was that you put stuff out there and it would be raw material for people to comment on and bloggers would seize upon it because they didn't have their own people on the ground in Afghanistan or Baghdad.
But that didn't work.
And that you've had to do this other thing instead of taking your material and releasing it to mainstream media organizations.
Do you hear this?
Yeah, I'm listening.
This is probably the clearest example of that.
So we still need people to go through it and do the sifting and make a story out of this.
You can't just do dumping of data online.
That's right.
That has been our experience.
We see actually that the professional press has a nose for what a story will be.
Now, this goes against everything I ever thought WikiLeaks was trying to propagate.
So what I'm understanding now, and he continues in a moment, is we tried just doing raw data dumps and have people sift through it and come up with stuff.
That didn't work, apparently.
So they changed course, and they decided to leak it to the press, to their publishing group, because they seem to have a nose for what a story will be.
And who is this guy working for?
He's admitting, literally, that he works with the press to come up with the story.
Okay.
The general public becomes involved once there is a story, once there is an issue of the day, and then can come forward and help mine the material.
But they're not incentivized to do that until they see what the story is.
And our goal is, of course, not to just have people reading documents.
Our goal is to achieve political reforms.
Ah, political reform.
They're a political group.
Am I just hearing this the wrong way, John?
Well, when he says our goal is to achieve political reforms...
That sounds to me like he's a political group.
Yeah.
Okay.
...release of suppressed information.
And we make a promise to the sources who come to us.
Firstly, we'll protect them through legal, political, and technical means.
Secondly, we'll try and get the greatest possible impact for their material.
You talk about your goal being political reform.
Critics say that releasing this sort of information helps the Taliban, that the Mullahs are the winners here, and so forth.
With critics.
This is a criticism of what you're doing online.
Columnists are saying this.
Some journalists are saying this.
You have to be careful, because are we talking about Nobel Prize winners, or are we talking about right-wing bloggers?
Well, whoever they are...
So now he's like, you know, who said that?
You know, some right-wing blogger or Nobel Prize winner?
Very confusing to me.
But it all becomes very, very clear when it turns out that they actually edit these documents, they edit them, then give them to the mainstream media.
Yeah, no, I think that's...
Well, yeah, but then he says something else that's really weird.
The White House, that this is a threat to security, and then other analysts are saying that actually there's nothing that new here, and that if you've been following this at all, that you won't be surprised by this.
There's just a lot more detail.
What do you think about that?
No, this is just typical nonsense from analysts who can't actually be bothered to read the material.
How do they know there's nothing new there?
91,000 reports.
Did they read 91,000 reports?
Even our journalistic team only read in detail around 2,000 reports.
And the stories that you're seeing come from that.
We just see the Canadian press...
So they don't actually read all the reports, is what I'm hearing there.
Which contradicts the idea that they blue-lined stuff.
Well, here it is.
...political, historical, ethical significance, and was not self-authored.
Provided it meets that criteria, it will then go through a harmonization process.
Oh, a harmonization process.
Oh, it goes through a harmonization process.
Self-authored.
Provided it meets that criteria, it will then go through a harm minimization process to make sure that the outcome of it is not to cause harm, but is in fact likely to cause a good effect.
Once that is done, we publish the entire material.
I don't know.
I found this very disturbing that they edit it, they take out stuff that may be harmful to people.
What's the point?
And then they hand it off to mainstream media.
I just don't understand how it's supposed to work.
It doesn't sound like this is a big dump of data.
It just doesn't.
And then, you know, you get these reports coming out, which was actually kind of funny.
This report hit the wires today.
U.S. considered arresting noted CIA asset Ahmet Wali Karzai for drug running.
And, of course, we've been talking about Karzai's brother for a long time, that he's the biggest drug runner.
He owns the Toyota dealership and the plant and all that stuff.
But then you read the actual cable that this came from.
It doesn't say that at all.
It just doesn't.
It just says, you know, well, we should sanction people who might be involved in drug running like Karzai by not taking pictures with him with officials.
Like, please...
That's it?
That's arresting noted CIA asset?
I mean, what you're reading in the mainstream media is not necessarily a direct translation of what is in these supposed WikiLeaks.
It's just not.
And you can look at it.
I put all the source material, all the links in the show notes.
And by the way, I should remind students out there that they should use our show notes to write papers.
Yeah, and a paper should be written about this.
And then everyone's bitching about the government this, the government that.
But meanwhile, it is the commercial companies like Amazon who are trying to shut these guys down.
The government's not shutting them down.
It's commercial companies that you deal with and buy from every single day.
Where's the outrage against that?
So I'm concerned about one aspect of the last clip.
And I'm trying to make the association as I was doing some typing.
If I'm not mistaken, the concept of harmonization is an intelligence agency concept.
Thank you.
Because I don't think anyone would use that word out of the blue.
I agree.
I mean, have you ever used it?
I tried to harmonize Mickey the other day.
Yeah, well that's another story.
Didn't work out too well.
I'm sticking with our thesis that he's either a front man or an agent or something.
It could be MI6. And the only reason I say that is because he sounds like a guy that doesn't sound like an Australian.
I mean, he still has the basic Australian accent, but he's picking up that British kind of mumbling style of speech that is very unusual in Australia.
I mean, maybe the Australian listeners, we have quite a few of them when we wanted to talk about that in a little while, Can disagree with me on this, but this kind of hard to understand mumbling beneath your breath is extremely British, which makes me wonder, because we always say everything CIA, CIA, CIA could not be doing half of anything, because MI6 is extremely active.
As is the ISSI, the Pakistani Secret Service?
ISI? ISI. And the Indian secret intelligence agency in India is extremely active, more so than the Pakistanis, and they don't get talked up at all.
And then there's the KGB, or whoever they're now called.
They've got a new name.
Now, do you know the background of Assange?
You know, Assange, apparently, what I've been able to read, and there's actually, I put a link into the...
Oh, my mic is a little weird today.
I put a link into the Complete Idiot's Guide to WikiLeaks' latest document dump, which is kind of an interesting document.
So, apparently, this guy was raised in a cult-like atmosphere where...
Do you hear that?
I'm like...
I'm crapping out here.
Hold on.
Like some cult-like family.
Oh!
Yeah, where his stepfather...
In northern Sonoma County.
No, no.
Hello?
Nah, I lost you.
Something's very wrong.
Hold on.
What the fuck?
Hello?
Now I can barely hear you.
Yeah, I... Sounds like you're, uh...
I'm breaking up, John.
I'm breaking up.
I'm breaking up.
I'm over Hawaii.
Hello?
Yeah, you have a loose wire.
No kidding.
That's not a Skype breakup.
You may need a new cable.
No, it's something else.
Okay, well, make a note.
Sounds like a post-production issue coming up.
It sounds like dust in a meter somewhere.
Now you're okay.
We'll see if it works now.
Scratch in the pot.
This cult place, his stepfather would give LSD to the kids and then lock them in a dark room.
Yeah, you haven't heard about this?
Oh!
No, yeah.
This is terrible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can I recommend people out there listening to this show?
You do not give kids LSD and lock them in a dark room.
It's not a good policy, I tell you.
It's not the thing you want to do.
No, this is a very well-known story from Australia.
Well, it wasn't that well-known to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Was he one of the kids locked in a dark room?
Apparently.
And then you see old pictures of these kids, and they all have these weird fishbowl-like haircuts, which he kind of still has.
I don't know much, but locking your kids in a dark room after giving them LSD could disrupt them later in life.
Anyway, I actually tweeted this yesterday.
He keeps insisting there's no 9-11 conspiracy.
The 9-11 truth movement is just a distraction.
Who says this?
Assange.
What has he got to do with it?
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
Of course, all the stuff we really want to know about, there's not a single cable about at all.
Cable.
Cable.
This turns out to be basically a closed internet that the government uses.
Yeah, no, they've shut it down too, by the way.
Well, they did, because that was one of the main things Robert Gates said.
It's like, oh, well, we can't share information.
Let's shut it all down.
Yeah.
After all the work they went through to share information.
If you're going to share information, what difference does it make?
These cables, you know, all it says to me is that these people should be more circumspect when they do these memos.
Yeah.
I mean, if you think everything's wide open, I mean, anyone who's ever been in a court case and has said discovery...
Knows that, you know, anything you write down is a part of the record.
It's going to be found out by lawyers, and it's just going to be stumbled upon.
It's going to be exposed to everyone, and this happens with the Microsoft cases over the years.
You know, all kinds of documents were uncovered that Microsoft would rather have not had seen the light of day, but they got out.
Including them banning me, by the way, from something.
The chat room says, by the way, they heard him say harm minimization and not harmonization.
They say harm minimization.
That's what the chat room heard.
Harm minimization.
Yeah, instead of...
Okay, well that could be.
That could be.
I'll give you that.
Well, let's move on then.
Let me move on to another member of the Shadow Puppet Theater, which popped up this week, completely just flies under the radar.
Who would you say in any news organization is the most important person, John?
In any news organization, I would say the executive producer is actually in a news organization.
Like ABC? They just named a new president of news.
Yeah, that'd be a good one.
So would you say that the president of the news staff is kind of the guy who determines what happens?
Well, he'd be the guy who would tell the editor-in-chief what to do.
Yeah, he'd be overseeing everything.
He wouldn't be doing day-to-day, but he'd be bringing people into the office when things went astray.
Right.
So news comes out, and of course no one heard about this, that Ann Sweeney, who's the group president of Disney ABC Television, named Ben Sherwood the new president of ABC News.
I'm like, well, that's interesting because having worked at a big media organization, the president is kind of the guy, you know, he's they.
When someone says, Adam, listen, they really don't like what you're doing right now.
They'd like you to change a little bit and just don't say that because they don't like it, right?
So I look into Ben Sherwood, who is my age, born February 12, 1964.
He's an American author, journalist, entrepreneur.
And here's what's kind of interesting.
Ben Sherwood, born in Los Angeles, California, son of Dorothy and Richard Sherwood.
His mom is a homemaker and arts volunteer.
His late father was a prominent lawyer, civic leader, and patron of the arts.
His older sister, Dr.
Elizabeth Sherwood Randall, is special assistant to President Barack Obama.
And Senior Director of European Affairs on the National Security Council.
How does that work?
Just a coincidence.
I think not.
Coincidence?
I think not!
And if you think for one minute that that is just a coincidence, you're out of your skull.
I agree.
People have to get it together.
It is not a coincidence.
What is special assistant?
She's probably one of the go-betweens that works between the National Security Council.
Is NSC? Yeah, NSC. Okay, so a special assistant would be somebody, I'm guessing, somebody could correct me, but generally speaking, it would be somebody I think that's a go-between.
So she'd be taking the documents from the CIA and the NSA back and forth to the NSC meetings.
But he also...
I can find out for sure.
He's also, I think he set this thing up called the Survivors Club.
Which is, I don't know, is this for people who survived like horrible...
It's not one of those food things, is it?
No, I think it's like addictions and stuff like that.
It's, let me see.
Survive crime, survive molestation, survive something like any of those things could be a possibility.
Here it is.
I think it's a book.
January 2009, his first non-fiction book, The Survivor's Club, The Secrets and Science that could save your life, was published by Grand Central Publishing.
This is for survivors, survivalists.
Yeah, The Survivor Club explores human survival in all its forms.
It was a New York Times bestseller.
Yeah, this is a survivalist book.
This is nuts.
Yeah, I think Glenn Beck talks about this book a lot, actually.
Well, you know, one of the reasons all the right-wing talkers are now talking about survivalism is because the new sponsors that have come down the road, you know, it's always been a well-known fact that the only reason that...
That talk radio exists the way it exists.
Oh, it's because of the gold sellers and seed banks.
Yeah, vitamin pills.
Vitamin pills, HGH and all that.
Now it became gold and then it's moved on to these food programs.
Yeah.
You take a bunch of paranoid people and you put them on this food program.
Oh, you buy this kit and you'll have food for the next two years.
Storable food.
Storable food.
Exactly.
Restore the food forever and you won't have to worry when the bomb hits or when whatever bad happens, happens.
Of course, nothing ever comes of it.
By the way, my tip to people out there, there are mailing lists available.
You can get the mailing list because you maybe want to sell to, like Mormons, for example, all keep one year's of food, which were the food in their basements by some...
Edict.
And then there you have these guys.
So you rent these two mailing lists and if all hell breaks loose, you just grab the mailing list and you just check off.
You go find these people and shoot them and steal their food.
Hey man, give me some food.
That would be the smart money.
Sick concept, but it would work.
Anyway, so I just thought it was very interesting.
With very little research done, by the way.
All I had to do was look at Jimmy Wales' face and I knew that this guy was a complete insider with his sister being special assistant to the president.
And on the National Security Council.
Hello!
So we can assume ABC News is now in the bag.
Yeah, totally.
Well, we already knew NBC News is in the bag because they're owned by GE. Or were.
That's no longer true, right?
Well, is that deal done?
I think the Comcast deal is done.
That's part of what this whole net neutrality thing is about, is they have to figure that out.
Whatever the case is, people are still in place, so they're still firing people.
CBS is kind of the one up in the air.
I'm sure there's a connection, but I haven't found one.
So you might get real news from them.
I don't know.
You're not getting real news from anybody.
You're barely getting real news from us.
What am I thinking?
Anyway, you just got to be aware of who's doing what and who's saying what and how things are being released and how they're being talked about and how they're being changed in front of your very eyes.
It brings me to Clinton.
Okay, yeah, Clinton.
What you got?
So this guy, where's his name?
I'm nuts.
I didn't bring the right pad with me.
Conway?
The guy wrote, look up the book, it's called The Arab Lobby.
And this guy was on C-SPAN yakking away about his book.
And he made a couple of interesting points.
And one of them we've talked about on this show, we know it to be a fact.
And it's come up in the conversation a lot when Hillary was running for president.
A lot of people analyzed and said, look, the problem Hillary's going to have is the Clinton Library.
The thing has got like $300-400 million.
Nobody knows where this money came from.
Well, we also know that they took $0 from admissions in 2009.
Right, they didn't get 10 cents, but they got hundreds of millions of dollars.
So play the clip, Coy Way of Corrupting America.
This is about a minute and a half, but it really kind of tells us everything we need to know, and I have a little post-analysis of this commentary coming up.
The Arab lobby has done, and this is particularly true of the Saudis, is to take a top-down approach to lobbying as opposed to a bottom-up.
That is, the pro-Israel community has always prided itself on being a grassroots movement, to mobilize the masses, to influence Muslims.
The Saudis and the Arab lobby in general take just the opposite approach because they don't have a means to reach the grassroots.
They don't have the numbers.
They don't have the public support.
They try to go directly to the decision makers, influence the few who have power over the many.
And so one of the reasons why the...
The pro-Israel lobby is very transparent, and we know a lot about what they do, because you see them out there lobbying Congress in a very visible way, and the records are all public.
Whereas the Arab lobby does most of its work behind the scenes, that you have Saudi government officials, diplomats, the ambassador, the king in particular, going directly to the White House.
To talk to the president or talking to the secretary of state.
And often we don't know that these talks are going on.
You had Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador for more than 20 years who used to play racquetball and tennis with Colin Powell and David Jones and the top decision makers in our government.
And it was something that the average person would never know about.
Do you think he'd let him win, John?
Think that was his plan?
I wonder about that.
That was his plan?
Hey, Bandar, man, you can't beat me.
That's no good.
You gotta lose, bitch.
Otherwise, I won't do anything for you.
That's a good question.
Now, Bandar also was quite candid in explaining the whole Saudi approach to influencing American policy.
He said, basically, what we want to do is take care of people when they leave office, because if you do that, you'd be surprised how nice they are to you when they are in office.
So they have the reputation over the years of taking very good care of former government officials who end up in very cushy consulting jobs with the Saudis who work in the defense industry, who work in various think tanks, and end up making a very comfortable living, thanks in large part and end up making a very comfortable living, thanks in large part to the fact that they were very pro-Saudi while they were in And this is a very bipartisan approach by the Saudis, by the way.
They do the same thing with every president.
They give money to their presidential libraries.
They support the First Lady's causes.
Sometimes they do it before the president.
It becomes the president.
Sometimes it's after.
In the hope of showing government leaders, our presidents even, that there is a good reason for them to be pro-Saudi.
And one of my favorite examples...
It was the case of Bill Clinton, where you had, at one point, this obscure southern governor went to the Saudis and said, I'd like you to fund a Middle East Studies Center at the University of Arkansas.
The Saudis probably looked at him and thought, where's Arkansas?
Where do I write this?
Where do I send the check to?
And told him, no.
Then, not too long afterwards, this obscure southern governor suddenly is the Democratic candidate for president.
And what do you know?
Suddenly, the University of Arkansas gets $3.5 million for Middle East studies.
Then, that obscure governor is elected president of the United States, of course, and shortly after he's inaugurated, the University of Arkansas miraculously gets a check for $20 million for the study of the Middle East.
So, This is one of the ways that the Arab lobby operates and has been very successful.
Right.
So I'm thinking.
Really?
Is that how it works?
Hmm.
Huh.
Really?
Yeah, that's why.
So this, by the way, is the worst form of corruption in this country.
I mean, essentially, and once the word gets out, well, once you get out of office, you're going to be set for life.
You know, that's where we have all of a sudden, you know, presidents going in worth $2 million and coming out worth a half a billion.
How does that happen?
Oh, they had a lot of donors to the Clinton Library or whatever.
Yeah, right.
So I'm thinking, with Hillary, and the fact of the matter is they've got so much money from the Saudis by now that Hillary really, if anybody did some bookkeeping, she's never going to become president.
That's why she just said, she said, this is going to be my last public office.
She was over there.
Where the hell was she?
Yeah, but she said that, but you know that she's not saying that to the Saudis.
You never bite the hand that feeds you.
Knowing that they're going to be able to, and I believe Clinton is something of a shyster, and he knows that he's basically gouging them.
For more money.
Well, you know, Hillary could become the next president.
You might want to consider this.
You might want to throw some more money in the library.
Yeah, you never know what could happen there.
My foundation needs a few bucks.
So she's going to stay in the game in some way, shape, or form because they're basically soaking these guys.
But at the same time, this is like the worst kind of corruption for public officials.
And this guy goes on and on with all kinds of other examples.
I mean, it's just a very interesting book.
It should be on our book club reading list.
The guy's name is Michael Bard.
The book is called The Arab Lobby.
And it's a very corrupt situation.
There's a couple other things that they're doing which are a little more disturbing.
You might want to play...
I got two more clips.
Get this out of the way.
You might want to play the Saudi-funded schools, which is kind of interesting.
Oh, yes.
I can tie right into this.
Of even greater concern, I think, is that they are trying to spread some of these values that they have in their own educational system into our education system.
For example, in one school, there was a map on the wall of the Middle East that was missing just one country.
Can you guess which one?
Israel.
And they had a...
Textbook that taught that the Jews were conspiring against Islam.
And in their 12th grade textbook, it said that on the day of judgment, the trees will speak to the Muslims and say, O Muslim, O servant of God, the Jews are hiding here behind me.
Come and kill them.
And it's not just about Jews.
They also quote from another part of the Quran in which it said, the apes are the people of the Sabbath, the Jews are swine, the unbelievers of Jesus' table, the Christians.
Jews are apes, Christians are pigs.
These are some of the teachings that are very common in Saudi textbooks.
They're finding their way into the United States and that particular school that I'm talking about is not a madrasa in Pakistan or a Taliban school in Afghanistan.
It's actually a Saudi-funded school in Fairfax, Virginia.
Oh, wait a minute.
Is that the American University?
I don't know.
He never says.
Well, this ties into something else.
I didn't know if you were going to bring it up, but I did some research on the American University.
They just moved to 555 Pennsylvania Avenue, but they were based in Virginia.
And the reason why I looked it up is because you said that George Clooney was on, what was he on, 60 Minutes?
No.
No, he was on, I think it was 2020.
2020, with his dad, right?
Yeah.
And you texted me, and I wasn't at home, so I couldn't take a look at it.
You said, hey, you know, Clooney's dad looks like a total spook, and we kind of went back and forth for a few, it was like our only contact in between shows.
And we're like, hey, that's kind of interesting.
People rarely talk about his dad.
They're always talking about Rosemary, which is his aunt.
And so I look up his dad.
And he just received a...
He's now on the board, I believe, of Newseum.
The Newseum.
So, what is this Newseum thing?
So, the Newseum is a part of the American University, and the Newseum is a museum of news.
It's truly the temple of the Ministry of Truth.
And it's completely funded by American University and something called FreedomForum.org.
Have you ever heard of the Freedom Forum?
Yeah, actually I have.
By the way, I think the school that he's talking about is like a K-12 school in Fairfax, according to most of the literature.
It's a private Islamic school.
Okay, well, I think that the point that I want to make here is that in the United States, the school that you go to, when I say school, I'm talking about university, really determines your future, certainly amongst the elite.
And if you look at the American university...
John, I mean, have you ever just taken a small gander at the American University?
I mean, this is a university that has a billion dollar in endowments.
A billion dollars.
And then you've got to kind of look at, you know, who's been funding this.
So, in 1986...
They started building the sports and convocation center, financed by Adnan Khashoggi, a fine Saudi trustee, trustee of the American University.
You, of course, have heard the name Khashoggi.
Oh, yeah.
He's an arms dealer.
He's a known arms dealer.
And then you start to look at...
All the people that are involved and have been to the School of Communication, which is a part of the American University, and this is really what Clooney's dad is now, you know, he's like a bigwig over there, and you start to understand how easy it is for messages to get put into the media, because it's all the alumni.
Listen to this list of people who have attended the American University School of Communication from government.
I don't even want to do government because that's too easy.
But let's look at some senators.
Why don't we look at some people in the media?
Okay?
Yeah, go.
Neil Cavuto.
David Gregory.
Who is now very influential on Meet the Press.
Interestingly enough, Alex Albrecht of Dignation.
Oh, that's interesting.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Star Jones, Barry Levinson.
I mean, I put all the links in the show notes.
And then you look at the speakers.
I mean, every single president has spoken there.
The list is endless of senators and representatives who have attended American University.
I mean, this is the hub.
And then you look at freedomforum.org, who is apparently funding a lot of, essentially, the news portion, the Newseum and the American University and the School of Communications.
And this Freedom Forum is completely run and owned by Gannett.
Completely, from beginning to end, which of course owns USA Today, they own tons of newspapers, advertising, and they're not a 501c3, and so they don't publish numbers, but they have given over three quarters of a billion dollars to the school.
I mean, this is where my heart just sinks.
I'm like, well, there's no way we can fight this.
No, of course not.
Everyone's completely in everybody's pocket.
Everyone's in the bag.
Everyone's in the bag.
And then you get Bernie Sanders, who reports on...
It wasn't Bernie Sanders.
I got a different report here.
Senator Kerry owns stock in L3 Communications.
Who do the body scanners?
I mean, it's just fucking rampant.
Everywhere you turn, every single thing you look at, there's some kind of money flowing from one guy to the other, and the Saudis are absolutely right.
That's the best way to do it.
Go straight to the guys who want the money.
You put money in their campaign fund?
And we're talking like $200,000, $300,000, $400,000, $500,000.
That'd pop.
Yeah.
I'm speechless.
I'm literally speechless.
And I actually get a little dismayed.
There's no way we can ever...
We can't fight this.
You can't fight that.
It's no wonder that Clooney gets roped into doing this stuff.
And he gets pushed around, and we've got to go do something about Darfur, Sudan.
Get Georgia over there.
You can really sell it.
And it goes straight through all the family connections.
We truly have our own version of dynasties here.
And they all run through universities.
Well, you know, Eisenhower, when he said we have to be wary of the military-industrial complex, a lot of people don't realize, it's very well documented, that originally in the speech, and he thought better of it, was we have to be aware of the military-industrial academic complex.
Oh, did he really say that?
Did he say academic?
No, he never said that.
That was in the written speech that he was going to say.
Oh, really?
I didn't know that.
He pulled academic out at the last second thinking, well, maybe I shouldn't say that because I'm going to get, you know, there's lots of reasons it was a politically correct thing to do.
But in fact, it was military-industrial-academic complex.
Wow.
No, that's news to me.
But it makes so much sense because I just start looking at this stuff and I see all these names.
I'm like, oh, well, forget about it.
Forget about it.
And you make a great name like freedomforum.org and I'm like, I'll take a look at their numbers.
Their net, their balance sheet, they are worth over a billion dollars.
And about us, top line, we have nothing to do with the Gannett publishing empire except that it was founded by him.
Everyone in it who's running it is former Gannett Everyone is from Gannett.
The whole thing is a setup.
It's like, huh?
And you know, these are all the people who go to the Bilderberg conference and don't report on it, where the true agenda is laid out, and that's how it works.
It's back to my SimCity example.
You just got to have enough people with enough money flowing left and right, and then you can actually determine the agenda.
You can actually do it.
Well, we have no agenda.
No, you're breaking up again with that connection.
Okay, there we go.
Got it?
Yeah, I've got to replay it.
What do you think it is?
It appears to be...
What?
I can't talk!
If it's broken, I can't get up!
Hold on!
With wiggling things, you might be better off.
Put your pants on.
There's like dust in something.
I don't know.
It's annoying.
Alright.
So I have a third clip.
Okay.
Which is just, this changes the topic a little bit, but he talks about how the Saudis are actually, you know, they bitch and moan about the Israelis or Israel constantly, but he says their real concern is Iran.
So play the Saudi nuke clip.
And the other Gulf states are petrified of the Iranians, much more than the Israelis in many ways, because they're a lot closer.
And the Iranians make no pretense about their designs on parts of the Gulf.
In fact, they occupy one of the islands, I believe, owned by Bahrain.
They're constantly having border disputes.
And so the Saudis are scared to death of the Iranians.
But the Saudis also are very scared of how they are dealt with.
That if they don't think the United States will take action against the Iranians, then they will likely do one of two things.
And actually, they've already done both.
And that is to try to buy off the Iranians.
They've gone and had meetings with Iran in the past few years to try to appease them.
And at the same time, they have signed nuclear cooperation agreements.
And they are likely to pursue a nuclear weapon.
In fact, maybe you'll want to talk about the Iranian issue more generally, but one of the biggest dangers of the Iranian issue isn't Iran getting the bomb, but the fact that if they get the bomb, all the other Arab states are going to want it to protect themselves from Iran, and Saudi's first among them.
Wow.
Is it possible for...
So, really?
That's interesting.
That does kind of back up what at least some of the media is reporting about the WikiLeaks cables.
I downloaded that whole archive and it's like you can't open it.
Is there some trick to opening the archive?
There's something about the whole thing is fishy.
I couldn't even download it.
I got the torrent.
I was able to download it.
I never got the torrent.
It said the torrent couldn't be had.
I'm thinking, wait a minute.
Torrents always...
We're too busy.
I'm thinking, wait, wait, wait.
The architecture of torrents is the busier you are...
The better it is.
The better they work.
Well, I got the torrent within seconds.
That was no problem.
But then it's like in this weird format.
It's not a zip file.
I mean, there must be some way to open it or something.
Somebody will know.
Yeah.
So anyway, yeah.
So the thing, he talks about the fact that the Saudis have always, are really big.
I mean, they're the number one financiers of all terrorism.
Yeah.
And he says that they disveiled threats.
He says it's possible that the fact that everybody was a Saudi in the 9-11 situation, that the Saudis were literally not just behind it in a kind of oddball way, but actually behind it.
Because they do this.
If you don't do what they want, because after all, they've given you hundreds of millions of dollars for whatever your library or whatever you're doing.
Right, right.
Oh, really, son?
I let you win at racquetball, and now you do this?
Oh, okay, son.
We'll show you what we can do.
So the Saudis are bad actors, generally speaking, in this regard.
And by the way, that's not the people of Saudi Arabia.
No, it's the royal family.
The people took over.
They're asking for nothing but trouble.
They've created this offshoot Wahhabism amongst their Muslim population, which is extremely rigid.
It's like many of the precepts.
Or like, you know, you don't want to own anything that's expensive.
Right.
Because that's bad.
So, you know, they try to keep the people like, oh, you have a painting?
No, no, no.
You don't want to own a painting.
You don't want to have anything.
It's just pretentious.
So, you know, they get the people in some situations.
But it's so strict and rigid that people obviously see what the royal family is.
They're spending like crazy.
They've got private jets.
They don't wear the babushka all the time.
So one of these days it's going to be a mess over there.
Apparently the file is stored in 7-zip format, which I've not heard of.
7-zip?
7-zip.
You familiar with that?
Nope.
Okay, well at least I guess I can figure it out now.
Sure you can figure it out.
Yeah, because I got time.
I read all this stuff.
Yeah, let us know what you find.
Because apparently, according to Assange, he releases all this stuff and nobody gives a crap.
Right.
I do.
I love it.
But of course it may be...
Months.
So anyway, so all this money rolling around through the School of Communication, the Saudis into Capitol Hill, and meanwhile, oh, by the way, I might want to point out George Soros just did a generous donation of $1.8 million to our national treasure, NPR, who gladly took the money, of course, and he actually stipulated it was to hire 100 journalists.
I wonder if he handed a list, and here they are.
And here's the journalist you might want to consider.
More fine, which of course no one's up in arms about.
So besides Amazon shutting off your beloved WikiLeaks, PayPal is now refusing to pass on money.
So how long before we get screwed, John?
How long before PayPal shuts us off?
We're still under the radar.
If we had the kind of profile that WikiLeaks had, for one thing, we'd get so much money right off the bat that we probably could coast.
We'd be coasting, mother!
Just coasting along.
There's no coasting going on at the moment.
No.
As a reminder, I want to mention to people, in fact, we should probably discuss it.
I think we're at the point where we need to talk about people who donated.
Mm-hmm.
The donation address is Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA, or check out the NoAgendaShow.com where there's a link.
And we have a few donors that helped us out this week for this week's show, including...
Stephen Bowe of Clear Lake, Wisconsin, who gave us $150 and said he's a long-time supporter of Minuteman plus $5 a month subscriber, $150 donation in honor of JCD's amateur radio licensing.
Hey, breaker breaker, good buddy.
That's CB. I know.
I'm going to get mine too now.
Well, it says right here, there's more.
You gave us $150.
Where that came from, if you get yours, Adam.
Oh, I'm there, man.
I'm going to do it.
I am totally going to get it.
Now with this license that you got, this is like level one, what can you do?
Can you actually like, can you turn up the heater?
Can you blast out some watts?
How many watts can you do?
How many watts?
I think one of the bands I can do 1,500 if I wanted to.
I think it's going to be flowing around 50.
I would have to mention something.
It's like expensive to get a 1,000 watt transmitter.
It's not something I could just find on the street.
Turn up your heater, good buddy.
Not going to happen.
Yeah, so, but is this all you need, or do you have to go for, I mean, is this the base level?
No, what you want to do, you want to move up to the general, because that gives you almost all the ham frequencies.
You can use almost all of them, and that includes those long wave radio waves that go around the world.
But can you do the 802.11n thing now?
No.
See, this is one of the things that...
You get your license and we'll talk about it.
We'll do a show dedicated to get more people involved because I think that the government is kind of suppressing the ham movement, generally speaking.
Yeah, whereas it's our true backstop.
It's the real backstop that we have.
Yeah, it's the real deal.
It's very important.
And the reason I kind of got involved is because there's a friend of mine...
I'm paranoid.
It wasn't for that.
It's a good hobby.
It's something I want to learn about.
It's something I want to be able to do in all sorts of different ways.
I also see opportunities to complain.
And as anyone knows me, I'm a complainer, and I think there's things to complain about, and I think a lot of it has to do with the government.
And I think they're short-sheeting the ham people, generally speaking.
A lot of them do complain, but, you know, they have different audiences.
You and I single-handedly could bring back...
Complain.
Yeah, we could just sit there and complain.
Hey, KLNG, November Gulf, I'm pissed off.
How about you?
Over.
Actually, saying pissed off is against the law.
Oh, there's rules.
I don't like it that much.
You can't say pissed off on the handband?
I think so.
Hello, LNG.
Ist pay off a.
No, that's not...
Oh, no, no.
I'm sorry.
We have to...
I got my Roger beep on.
We'll talk about the details later.
But, yeah, you should get...
Getting the first license is rather easy.
Hams.com is a suggestion from the chat room.
There's a lot of online tests that people can take, and you can bring yourself up to speed.
All right.
Let's move on.
We have a lot more New World Order to find.
Boris Sloth Marinov, Sir Marinov to you.
Yes.
From Aliso Viejo, California, has a birthday coming up.
One, two, three, six, nine.
Got his knighthood two months back.
Got a lot of karma.
Now he needs some good karma.
Oh, okay.
This is a good kind.
You've got karma.
Actually, this is for a son.
Because the Kaiser Permanente canceled his surgery because Cobra takes a while to show that he has coverage.
I hope no one takes his spot until Tuesday and hopefully the documents don't get lost between Cobra and the Kaiser.
By the way, my last name is pronounced Marinoff.
I think I said that.
Like Marino.
Marinoff?
Marinoff.
Okay, Marinoff.
Marinoff, yeah.
Don't pronounce it Mary.
Yeah, don't do what you just did, basically.
Whatever.
PS12369 is my birthday.
I was hoping to get that donation on my birthday, but PayPal messed me up.
This guy's got some nice karma.
Speaking of karma for just a minute, producer Craig, who is the inventor of the Quad Niner donation meme, manager of No Agenda PR, and a college friend of Martha Quinn, he said, look, I was executive producer for episode 250.
I requested some karma to help expand my business.
When I requested, I was hoping just to land a new client.
That didn't happen, so I thought karma, well, that's BS. But since then...
I'm involved in a probable new business partnership that could be huge for 2011.
I landed two new clients for 2011, equivalent to about 50% of my 2010 income.
Two previous clients called out of the blue for new work.
A recent client who ended a four-month project may turn into a major ongoing client in 2011.
The lesson?
Karma works, so donate now, all you douchebags.
Rest assured, once my new client fee checks start rolling in, my path to knighthood checks will subsequently be rolling your way.
Meanwhile, I have a new donation meme.
He says, look, karma should not be cheap.
You shouldn't be handing out karma left and right.
Two, according to the Karmic Debt...
There are four karmic debt numbers.
The numbers are 13, 14, 16, and 19.
If you add up the karmic debt numbers, you get $62.
So, you should not be handing out karma unless someone donates the minimum of $62.
Sounds reasonable.
I think it's very reasonable.
I mean, he's right.
We're pretty easy on the karma.
Yeah, well, you got the button.
Okay, if it's not 62 or more, no karma.
That's my new rule.
Rudy at Upstart Ventures wants to give a call-out, a niner, niner, niner, dot niner, niner call-out.
Rudy at Upstart Ventures, niner, niner!
Wait, wait, stop!
It's for his stepfather, Max Zocco.
Max Zocco, niner, niner, niner, niner from Rudy at Upstart Ventures.
There you go.
And I think there's a birthday involved.
We'll get to that later.
And then your buddy, Schnorristein.
Stain.
Stain.
Who is Gitmo Nation North Pole.
Yeah, get more attention, North Pole.
He is.
He's at the North Pole.
Yeah, you got the pictures.
You never sent them to me.
Yeah, I did.
I sent you the pictures of him with his snowmobiles and his rifle on his back.
We have to go there.
The guy is living the life, and he says there's a rule of thumb.
Never snowmobile further than you'd like to walk home.
I've been going in a circle.
I've learned the hard way.
A small circle around the house.
It sucks pushing the snowmobile with a rifle strapped to your back.
Okay.
Snorting his wife up there.
I think all they do is just have sex and ride snowmobiles.
You know, 80 kilometers an hour is the maximum speed allowed for a snowmobile outside our village.
I've done at least 81.
Ha!
Good job.
He has a birthday call to his father.
By the way, I've snowmobiled in northern Finland, and what's interesting about those speed limits is that they have a small freeway for snowmobiles, and there are cops on snowmobiles with red lights and sirens positioned along the way.
Behind signs.
Alright, moving along.
Daniel Rondé in your neck of the woods.
Oh man, Netherlands.
This was actually a request from some of our supporters from the Netherlands.
You know, in the Second World War, if they wanted to see if someone was a German spy, they made them say the following things.
Scheveningen, Enschede, And there was one more that I can't remember now.
So if you couldn't say that properly, then you were clearly not Dutch.
Ja, you could have been an American.
But they'd think you were a German spy, they'd shoot you.
Yeah, exactly.
Anonymous in Sweden gave us $64.
Don't even have to mention the note.
He's so anonymous.
Okay, sorry to mention it.
Justin Burley in Rescue, California.
It's Bowerly, I think it is.
It could be.
55-55 to my Geology 300 class.
The teacher just devoted a whole month to global warming.
A whole month.
So I asked her about biodiversity in front of the class and she didn't even know what it was.
I told her she was spewing old propaganda.
She was pissed.
He wants a climate gate jingle.
Oh, well, the new one is the biodiversite.
I don't even know if I have the climate gate jingle.
The gate, the gate, the climate gate.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
I think it's just...
Sorry?
Give him one of the last karmas that we're going to get for under $62.
Okay.
You've got karma.
Sir Howard Hill, double nickels on a dime from Akron, Ohio.
Before he slips from night to douchebag, he says.
Well, you can't.
Not really.
Now I can get a spiffy Minutemen patch.
I also did not scribble down the email address of the 101010coins.
That's shill at noagendanation.com.
Bradley Sweeney, Saskatoon, the Paris of Canada.
Double nickels on the dime.
And then we have some knighthood layaways for Tristan Lennon, Travis Wynn from...
And Tristan, by the way, is from Wagga Wagga.
Travis Lynn from Hemet and Mike Westerfield, also 50 from Wesley Ball, Sherman Oaks, California, in the spirit of the C-SPAN segments.
And Judy Schwartz from Boehm, Texas.
And finally, Ryan...
bones and Mark Vaughn from Melbourne, Pennsylvania and Austintown, Ohio.
Alright, I got a couple of them for today.
First of all, make good birthday for Bob Majors, who had his birthday on the 2nd of December.
Happy birthday there, Bob.
Sir Charles Jordan says happy birthday to his wife, Dame Carol Jordan.
Also, this past 2nd of December, Sir Charles Jordan himself yesterday.
Rudy, as we discussed earlier, says happy birthday to his stepfather, Max Zucco, with a niner, niner, niner, niner shout-out.
Snorstain to his dad, Ann Anonymous.
And Borislav Marinov turned 47 on the third.
Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
And please remember to keep supporting this show at Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA, or go to NoAgendaShow.com and click on one of the many donation links.
Also, keep propagating the formula, the No Agenda Shots at NoAgendaShots.com is great.
There's a couple new initiatives on the way that I just want to take a look at before we start promoting them, but...
I also want to re-mention the NoAgendaStickers.com.
Please put stickers up at the toll booths of your local bridges.
Right.
We don't get enough of that.
So, um...
I got three things.
Four things, really.
So one, I'm putting in the show notes a link to the Food Safety Act, S510, because we talked about it last week, and you said, well, I thought it was all the FDA. Dude, if you open it up in a PDF reader and search for Homeland Security, every single paragraph says...
The Secretary of Agriculture and Department of Homeland Security.
It's like they're married now.
They are one.
I was looking at listening to old clips.
And in fact, I have a couple of old clips I want to play because one or two of them are quite interesting.
You go back and you hear some of this stuff a year later and it's like, oh...
I have a clip that I didn't recapture, but it mentions that Homeland Security, you know what the size of the active people in the field that are actually doing law enforcement?
300,000.
It's the same as the U.S. Marine Corps.
Well, isn't that what Obama promised?
Didn't he promise we would have a...
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Obama promised a secret police or a domestic police, government police.
I think the quote is, a security force as large as our armed forces.
And the TSA... Is quite possibly the new brown shirts.
They're certainly dumb enough.
Quite possibly.
They are the new brown shirts.
They're just, you know, nobody's complaining about it.
Of course, you know, we haven't seen them start to kill people.
Although, you know, molesting them.
When they start handing out guns to the TSA, the badges were first.
When they start handing out guns, then you know we're really in trouble.
Yeah, the badges are bad enough because they're not really law enforcement people.
The police departments around the country, and this is another reason why that nullification book is so important.
These states have got to show some backbone because they're just letting the federal government run roughshod over them.
And essentially it's a disservice to the public of your states.
To let this continue.
I mean, the only safe states now are just a few like Wyoming.
You know, the president met with the Council of Governors.
Remember, I found that executive order where he put together the Council of Governors.
And it's not just a drinking club.
Okay?
This is...
It's something that we don't quite understand.
A lot of the conspiracy groups online, of which I'm a member of many, said, oh, this is it.
You know, martial law is coming.
So they met with the president.
There's actually video of him and Biden, you know, talking to him.
But governor-elect, because I guess they all go into office at the beginning of the year, Bill Haslam.
And where is he of...
Where's Haslam from?
I can't find it.
He made a statement.
Oh, I guess he's from Tennessee.
He made a statement to the Tennessean, which I would say is a fine publication.
And he said, well, it was a very interesting day.
He said there were many presentations, amongst them Secretary of Health, And Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, who we're not a big fan of, Education Secretary Arnie Duncan, and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
Now, I do not have this quote anywhere, even though I scoured the C-SPAN library, could not find it.
According to Haslam, governor-elect of Tennessee, she said, quote, count on something happening while you are governor.
What is that supposed to mean?
Well, this is what I'd like to know.
I don't like it.
It doesn't sound very fun.
Huh.
Count on something happening while you are governor.
I mean, is that like just a foregone conclusion?
Like, hey, there's always something going on?
Maybe she's going to get some money from the Saudis.
Or do we have something planned?
I'm sure they've got something planned.
In fact, something planned is kind of interesting because it leads into, if you're kind of finished with that thought, I have the something planned thing.
There's a couple of clips I found in the library that I want to play.
And there's two of them.
There's one called Mass Destruction, if you play that.
Okay, and where's this from?
Do you need to set it up or go right into it?
Well, the second one I'm going to set up, but this one here, this was after, remember the Christmas bomber?
There was a whole bunch of Senate hearings and all the rest of it right after, during the month of January of this year, which is almost a year ago now.
This is the kind of news story that was playing.
Mass destruction is one of them.
Thank you for being here.
Great to be here.
Let's start with your assessment actually 14 months ago.
Is there any doubt in your mind, and I'll begin with you, Senator Graham, but either of you, that the threat remains as you assessed it then, that within the next four years, it is likely or more likely than not that some terrorists somewhere in the world will use a weapon of mass destruction?
If anything, the odds that we gave a year ago, which was more likely than not, have probably gone up in the past 14 months.
That is, it is higher than just a straight, slightly more than 50-50.
I love all the numbers.
I love 14 months, the odds, 50-50.
Isn't that great?
And by the way, we have to remember that they've redefined now weapons of mass destruction to include just about anything short of a cherry bomb.
I think it includes my ass.
I mean, I think that includes...
No, I mean, they had this guy in Oregon, this crazy thing that happened in Oregon.
It's weapons of mass destruction.
Sawdust.
I mean, everything's a weapon of mass destruction.
If something could blow up a cat, it's a weapon of mass destruction.
That someplace on Earth, a terrorist group would use a weapon of mass destruction.
Dude, I can predict that.
Hey, something's going to happen.
All right, okay, stop the clip.
Stop the clip.
So let's take it to another level then, to the second, which is the homeland attack clip.
This was done at the Senate.
These are our leaders in the end of January, the very first part of February, almost a year ago.
These are our leaders predicting the future.
Not with a bunch of vagaries, but these are like the head of the CIA, Panetta, the head of the military intelligence, the head of the Joint Chiefs, and that intelligence go-between guy.
The whole group is being grilled by Dianne Feinstein, and they are telling us exactly, definitively, these are our leaders telling us what's going to happen and when it's going to happen.
Play it.
Intelligence to the head of the CIA, they were all in agreement.
Listen.
What is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack on the U.S. homeland in the next three to six months?
High or low?
Director Blair?
An attempted attack, the priority is certain, I would say.
Mr.
Panetta?
I would agree with that.
Mr.
Mueller?
Agree.
General Burgess?
Yes, ma'am.
Agree.
Mr.
Dinger?
Yes.
Why do we have all these guys?
They're just all pointing to the one guy.
I agree with him.
Hey, what he said.
By the way, great leaders of our country.
Hinterland.
What happened?
Yeah, well, we had the toner attack.
Ah, stop.
No, that didn't count.
It was certain that within six months, three to six actually, it definitely would have a horrible attack on the country.
The homeland.
It was totally certain.
Where is it?
It was three months ago.
It should have happened.
Hey, we're disappointed.
I'm just wondering who these guys...
Why are we paying these people?
I love it when you get pissed off.
That's kind of funny.
No, seriously.
They're getting hundreds of thousands of dollars to give us bad information?
Why are we paying them?
To give us bad information!
Don't you understand?
Yeah, that's our leadership.
You know what was kind of funny?
It's certain.
I agree with him.
Yes.
What he said.
So, has there ever in your memory, John, been a time when the president of these United Gitmo states did not do the weekly radio address himself personally?
Well, I mean, the weekly radio address, of course, is something.
No, I mean, it's either they don't do it at all, or why would somebody else do it?
That makes no sense.
Hi, this is Joe Biden.
I'm filling in for President Obama this weekend.
What is this?
What is this?
The Leno show?
It literally, literally, it is.
He's like, hey, everybody, I'm Joe Biden.
I'm filling in.
He said, I'm filling in for President Barack Obama.
I saw this this morning.
I love watching our president's show.
It's now known as the YouTube show.
Which, by the way, I mean, is it that hard to hold up a camera with a teleprompter in Afghanistan?
Is it impossible to do?
I'm worried about the security and safety of our president right now because he didn't show up.
And he's done this thing in Louisiana on location.
He's done it in Chroma Key Studios.
He does it all over the place, but now all of a sudden he can't do it, and then we get the weekend crew from CNN. Hi, this is Joe Biden.
I'm filling in for President Obama this weekend because he's on his way back from Afghanistan, where he was spending some time with the brave men.
And then he goes on, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Which was just like, wow, that to me was weird.
Weird that he was filling it.
But then he winds it up because he knows he's not going to get the slot anymore because it's just a temporary slot.
And let's see if I can cue it up more or less to what he said here.
Economic growth by preserving tax cuts.
Then he goes, it's a whole tax cut.
You know, it's important that he, like, tax cuts for the rich, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Representatives voted to do just that.
Let me just move ahead here.
Folks, there's no doubt these are tough times.
Oh, here it is.
The same.
Look, folks, there's no doubt these are tough times.
Hey, folks.
Hey, folks.
Folks.
Folks.
Hey, folks, these are tough times.
We are slowly but surely fighting our way back, moving forward.
And we're going to keep fighting to grow the economy, to strengthen the middle class, and to restore the American dream.
Now, here it comes.
That's my pledge to you.
And hey, one last thing.
And hey, hey, hey, hey, slave, one last thing.
Since the President will be back to record this message next week.
Since I'm only a fill-in.
This is ridiculous.
Let me take this chance to say from my family to yours, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, have a great holiday season, and an even better New Year.
And a happy Kwanzaa.
I'm insulted.
What happened to Kwanzaa?
I'm insulted he didn't mention Kwanzaa.
I'm so insulted.
And Festivus.
He didn't mention that either.
Festivus.
And the Solstice.
You know, he slighted me, man.
He slighted the pagans.
He slighted the bull crappers and everybody in between.
And now here's a clip from the Gitmo Nation jewelry category about this judge in Texas.
And I'm only going to play a little bit of it.
The whole clip is actually quite interesting.
I'm contemplating it being an end-of-show clip.
You'll want to hear it.
I believe this may even be from our national treasure.
Well, we also discussed other ways education officials are trying to keep kids in school.
The Toronto District School Board, for example, is studying the idea of paying low-income children if they come to school and get good grades.
This is good.
This is a good thing, John.
I'm in.
Yeah.
I want to go back to school all of a sudden.
Using a carrot instead of a stick, so to speak.
David Kobos has a very different approach.
He's a judge in Midland, Texas, and he sometimes orders students to wear a GPS anklet.
Yay!
This is good!
This is...
Oh, this is Texas.
All you Texans should be so proud of yourselves.
Let's listen in.
The kind used to track parolees.
Judge Kobos is in mid...
From the BIA Corporation, of course.
They're expanding.
Expanding into...
They're actually going to have their annual report.
Shareholders, this year we expanded into education.
Good morning.
How did you get this idea of sentencing truant teenagers with ankle monitors?
Well, in Texas there are laws, compulsory school attendance laws which require I'm just doing what I'm told.
I'm just doing what the law tells me to do.
The law is structured that gives me some discretion in what is reasonable to insure.
This is reasonable, John.
These things cost a fortune.
It's not reasonable in any monetary sense.
Who's paying for that?
You know this guy has got to be on the take.
He's got to be on the take for BI. There's just no way.
I mean, how else did he come up with this?
This is a very expensive program.
That the orders of the court and state law are being followed.
We do have an attorney general opinion who has confirmed that the use of ankle monitors in failure to attend cases is reasonable.
It's reasonable!
By the way, this guy was investigated by the FBI as part of a corruptions probe in 2007.
So mark my words, this guy.
Mark my words.
But it's reasonable.
So this has been approved by lawmakers.
I have to assume that whoever was interviewing him knew this and they would have brought this up.
No, please.
It's our national treasure.
And I started using him before our state attorney general was asked.
My wife.
Whether that was reasonable, because as a judge I determined that it was.
And how I got the idea is we have a pretrial office here, which if an individual is unable to bond out of jail because they don't have the financial means, the county has a program whereby they will put up the bond at a reduced rate for the defendant to bond out, so therefore we're not overcrowding our jails.
I'm sorry, it's CBC, not NPR. Well, another Gitmo Nation station.
It's the Canadian version.
Canadian version.
And they use GPS monitors.
And so I just got together with the pretrial people, asked them if I could borrow a couple of those monitors.
Hey, hey, you got some of them bracelets?
You got some jewelry for me?
I want to borrow a couple.
...for a test, and I installed them on a couple of young people's homes.
I installed them.
I installed them on a couple of punks.
We're having problems at home, running away.
They're running away, so they run away.
Yeah, they're being beat up at home.
I'm not going to school.
You know, now you must have made sure they stay there.
Yeah.
And it worked.
It's success!
And so what does the monitor actually do?
Well...
This is journalism in Canada.
So, what does the GPS anchor bracelet monitor actually do?
Well, it tells us their location.
For example, if a person is chronically skipping school, then we place a monitor on them.
For example, if they're at home and they're supposed to be at school between 7.30 and 3, then we get another...
7.30 and 3?
7.30?
Really?
Early?
Where are the parents in all of this?
Where's the outrage about this?
This is nutball.
...that they're outside of the prescribed zone, and therefore we can hone in.
The zone?
The zone.
Ah, the zone.
The Gitmo zone.
...or send the troops, the constable.
The troops!
The troops!
Send in the troops!
Alright, I'm saving this for end of show clip.
This is too good.
It just goes on and on.
The guy is phenomenal.
The troops.
I'm sending in the troops.
Oh my goodness.
Alright, now I have something very serious to discuss.
Because I have been doing my research, and in the opening of the show, where I misstated that today is December 4th, you know, that part, where it's actually December 5th, there's a, and I'm not a...
By the way, wait, stop.
You can go back and do a post-production that says, I'm Adam Curry, today is December 5th.
No, I'm not going to do that.
We don't edit the show.
That's the beauty of it.
Otherwise, you might as well just call us The Economist.
Uh, so, um, not a huge fan of, uh, of the Alex Jones organization, although I do listen quite frequently because, uh, I love the guests that he has on.
Um, however, there's this guy, this Alex Berman, Bermas, I think his name is, he's, I think he did, uh, He's done a couple of the movies for Alex Jones.
And he interviewed...
And so that's why I actually wanted to see this.
I'm just going to bring this up.
He interviewed Roslyn Peterson.
And Roslyn Peterson, who, by the way, does not speak of chemtrails, but speaks of persistent jet contrails.
She has her own watchdog group called California Skywatch, but she was a certified USDA Farm Service Agency crop loss adjuster, which I think means, and she actually explains it in this interview, she would go out and evaluate if a farmer was entitled to compensation for crop loss.
Weren't you kind of in this area of air pollution, stuff like that, John, when you worked for the government?
Yeah, but not crop loss.
No, no, no.
But you measured air pollution, correct?
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, I didn't go out personally and measure.
The engineers did that.
I was out there enforcing the law.
Yeah, with the troops and the monitors.
With the troops.
So, she goes into great detail, and I, of course, put a link in the show notes to this interview.
It's about an hour, and I think you really should watch it.
Because she has a well-backed, well-researched theory about what some would call chemtrails, And right off the bat in this documentary, she says, you can't call these things chemtrails.
If you do that, immediately you're deemed a crackpot.
Chemtrails!
She says they are in government even known, and this is a government term known as persistent jet contrails.
And I have a couple of clips that I pulled from this.
That I thought were pertinent to the show, because I'm all over it.
I think we all agree that something is going on.
And according to this interview, and she seems like a very, very smart woman.
She seems well put together.
She has a lot of government background, understands how things work.
And she did the research, and it's all at this California Skywatch website.
And actually, I sent you the U.S. Air Force weather modification document.
Did you have a chance to look at that?
Yeah, I looked at it and then I backtracked on many of the citations to see where this all began and some of the details from the past to see exactly where it's headed.
And I have some thoughts on it.
Okay.
Well, let's just go briefly into this because she says, her assertion, spoiler alert, what she says is these are geoengineering projects which are funded...
By private corporations done mainly by the military and she has all the flight paths and she really did a lot of the work.
And she attended a meeting of geoengineering scientists who were actually conducting many of these experiments and here's some of what she learned.
Let me go back to 2006 in November.
NASA Ames in California had a meeting of geoengineers from all over the world.
It was a big meeting.
It went on for a week, and it was not open to the public.
During the course of this meeting, they were talking about these different geoengineering projects that they were studying.
These were university professors, different people, and there were many proposals that were put forward at this meeting.
I was lucky enough to be present at the one-day public event that they had on this meeting where several of the scientists and college professors spoke at this meeting with regard to geoengineering.
One of the things we have on tape...
because it was allowed to be videotaped is that they were talking about the word geoengineering and many of the geoengineering people in 2006 said that they had kept the word out of the public realm because they knew that if the public would find out about some of their schemes of putting chemicals into the air to shooting salt into the air all kinds of different experiments that the public might say no So they
actually admitted that they kept the word geoengineering out of text and out of...
You can't find it in a lot of college textbooks at any lower level.
So I thought that was...
right there was very interesting that they would actually admit to that and uh i would uh ask all of our uh younger listeners to explore their textbooks and see if that is indeed true if they can find any mention of jim i'm sure there's no mention of it whatsoever i I mean, the one thing I turned up when I was looking at this material, with a more skeptical eye than you, I'm sure...
The fact that the concept of weather modification goes back to World War II. But the thing that should be emphasized, and the one thing that keeps turning up over and over again, and she even says it herself, they're experimenting.
And their experimentation is so...
Crazy.
For example, there was a hurricane that was moving nicely along the coastline in 1947, and so these weather modification guys from the government decided to drop a couple hundred pounds of dry ice into the hurricane.
They took one of those bomber planes that could fly into the hurricane, into the island.
I guess in the way in or the way out, they dropped all this dry ice, and the hurricane took an immediate left turn and slammed into Savannah, Georgia, doing massive damage.
Whoops!
And...
The government had to keep this quiet, and I think the reason they want to keep all this quiet is the reason that, A, it's very experimental, and B, and it was said in the documents when it was finally revealed that this happened, they're worried sick that the Savannah people were going to sue the crap out of the government who had caused this problem, they believe, and they would have been liable.
So the government, experimenting in the public domain with all these crazy ideas, they just basically don't want to get sued when they kill you.
So here's a good thank you.
I'm going to skip ahead to the next clip.
She talks about the funding for this, where it comes from.
And this, of course, kind of tracks back to my dismay about all of the money.
And this runs completely parallel with the global warming scam, etc.
The underlying cause of all of this and some of the funding is military funding.
Because the military wants to be able to control the weather.
The military has got an agenda.
That if they control the weather, they can control any country to make it do whatever they want.
And many documents, Owning the Weather 2025...
Yeah, you should read this document.
I've linked to it in the show notes.
It's from the Air Force.
It's actually the af.mil website, this PDF. We're good to go.
Such a capability offers the warfighter tools to shape the battle space in ways never before possible.
It provides opportunities to impact operations across the full spectrum of conflict and is pertinent to all possible futures.
The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of future weather modification systems to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical roadmap.
And it just goes on and on and on about how awesome this is going to be.
It's just awesome.
It's great.
We need it.
There's several documents in which they talk about how rather than having some weapons of mass destruction, in other words, bombs or something, if they could control the weather in a country, they could actually force them and say, look, we will put you in drought.
We will put you in floods.
Sound familiar, Pakistan?
Experiments with the weather modification and other things that the geoengineers are doing would mean that it would be a military application, and a lot of money comes from the military sector for this.
I've looked at some of the universities and I've looked at the funding chain.
In other words, who's funding these?
Because it has to be public and we know that the military is also initiating programs and paying for funding.
So when you look at the funding stream, you can see that it's private corporations, you can see that it's the military.
So there's a lot of funding in there that's not coming from you and I because we couldn't afford it.
And the big military budget is where there's a lot of extra money for experimentation.
So that's where a lot of the funding...
From these experiments going in and will produce whatever is needed to do these experiments.
So that funding is coming in.
It's like the CRESS program, the CRRES. When they were sending up these canisters loaded with chemicals to superheat, well, that was a NASA budget, that's the U.S. Air Force budget, and then they do ionospheric testing.
Well, how do we know what impact that had on the environment that protects us around the Earth?
So she goes into quite a lot of detail because her job was actually to look at crops and trees and other foliage and stuff.
And this would actually be homework for you, although I think she's probably done most of the work.
She went back and she studied all of the...
Actually, I'm not even going to play this clip.
But she studied all of the drinking water reports, which some of them date back to, I think, 1970.
And it turns out that there were these spikes...
In certain chemicals being in California, in the drinking water in California.
And she said it's not so crazy that you have a spike from time to time, because it can be from a lot of different things, but to have a simultaneous spike in magnamese, aluminum, barium...
Probably manganese.
Manganese, I'm sorry.
All at the same time is, of course, quite spectacular.
And so you can just order the CD, and it's like 18 megabytes of data, And she grafted it all out.
And these spikes are, of course, you know, this is what's happening.
They are spraying stuff in the air.
It's all a part of experiments.
And here's the final clip I'll play.
And it, of course, is to save the children, John, obviously.
And they readily admitted that.
That was one.
Two, they want to be able to continue with their work, because that's job security for a lot of university professors.
Three, several of them have stated, well, you know, the public, we're going to be who the world turns to when global warming becomes this big problem.
They're going to ask us to save the world.
We're going to be the new stewards of the environment, and our programs are going to be the ones that will be initiated to save the world from global warming or whatever catastrophe.
So therefore, we have to experiment now, get the funding and experiment now, or continue our experiments so that we are ready to be the new stewards of the environment.
But the problem is, when you start putting up chemicals and you start doing atmospheric experiments, you start to impact agriculture, food supplies, watersheds.
You start to impact everything that we depend upon for...
Life on Earth.
And what happens if their programs go awry?
And when they were asked this, they said, well, it's just an experimental program.
Well, if someone gets hurt or harmed, well, so what?
Their attitude was very cavalier about this.
And Professor Benford actually wrote a program about the Arctic, and they said, in his article, he even said, well, if something goes wrong, why, it will wash out eventually in the long term, and if you have to sacrifice a few people or an area like the Arctic, then that's okay, because it's all in the realm of scientific study.
The science is in!
So I think that's pretty conclusive.
And I encourage everyone to go see that and stop using the chemtrails word because it just deems you as an idiot.
And I've certainly been at the forefront of that.
But persistent jet contrails, I think, is without a doubt what we're seeing in the skies above us.
And we're being experimented on.
Well, the one thing that did turn up quite a bit in the literature, especially in the 60s, and then much later, it turns out, which is possibly the way you could create flooding in certain areas, it turns out that the cheapest way to get clouds to form is using carbon particulate in the atmosphere.
And the absolute easiest way to get the carbon particulate up there is to take a regular jet fighter and turn on the afterburners and go at subsonic speeds And it just throws a bunch of dirt in the air.
Yeah, those are the black cloud.
No, she actually said she studied that.
That's the black persistent jet contrails.
She has all kinds of different words for it.
The only way you can get that black smoke out of a jet is by turning on the afterburners at speeds that don't support its use.
It's like burning shit up.
It's just, no, it's like a bad, you know, it's like when you don't get enough oxygen to a flame and it's all sooty.
Yeah, it gets all smoky, exactly.
Well, not just smoke, but soot smoke, which is a specific type of smoke.
Anyway, so, well, I find, I mean, it's not just, for me, it's not just, oh, well, we'll follow it, because...
I think I'm going to just, oh, well, we'll follow it and move to Paraguay.
Well, you know, it's happening everywhere.
This is the thing.
It's like when I throw up a picture of a persistent jet contrail over the house here, which is right over the Hollywood water reservoir, you know, I get pictures from everywhere.
And it is new.
It is something that's been happening since...
Around 1992.
And these are experiments.
We're being experimented on and no one is being honest about it.
We should at least have a vote.
If we all say, okay, alright, it's a good idea, then at least we voted about it and we had some honest information.
This is not a democracy.
No.
But it's not a democracy.
It's a republic.
Our leaders, our great leaders, the one who told us that we're going to have an attack in three months back in January.
Something will happen.
Our great leaders make these decisions for us.
Great leaders.
Anyway.
Hey, I found that clip.
Which one is that?
Well, this is a clip that we were going to save and then I lost.
And it was the laundry list.
You know, we're talking about the battle between the White House and the CIA. Oh, right, right, right, right.
I just want to play this clip.
This is the laundry list of the things that Obama has done right off the bat, because this clip is a year old, to the CIA to create part of the bad blood.
These are the actions Obama took which signaled to the CIA to back off.
One, he restricted the CIA's use of renditions to preempt terrorism.
Two, he closed secret CIA interrogation centers abroad.
Three, he banned waterboarding.
Four, he's closing Guantanamo.
Five, he ordered captured unlawful combatants to be read Miranda Rice.
Six, he is trying KSM. Khali Sheikh Mohammed and other terrorists like Abdul Muttalab in civil courts with full constitutional rights.
Seven, he ordered holders to reopen criminal probes and prosecute CIA officers for harsh interrogations.
Eight, he issued no diplomatic demash or protest against Italy for convicting 23 U.S. CIA and military officials in absentia for rendition.
Our guys.
And eight, nine rather, finally, he unleashed Holder to prosecute Bush policymakers like John Yu for their counterterrorism policy.
You want to speak to that?
Hold on, Ellen.
Yeah, well, of course, he didn't close Guantanamo Bay.
No, and I'm sure he backed off on more than a few of those things.
But that would be enough to piss off the CIA. Yeah, seems like a good little laundry list.
Yeah, yeah.
So, a few things about Haiti.
Well, before we do that, let's do something light.
I have a light clip.
I want to get it out of here.
Oh.
Something light.
You know how we talk about, you know, the cop shows and then they take the one pixel relation of the license plate and push a button and then you can see it clearly?
Zoom in.
Rotate.
Look in the reflection in the mirror.
Ah, it's our man.
There's a new one.
No, please don't tell me.
Yes, this is all new.
This is a new video trick, another new impossible video trick.
This is a beauty.
See if you can catch it.
This is from the TV show Blue Bloods.
Okay, hold on, here we go.
Actually, the shooter's out of frame there.
Where were you again?
I'm right over there.
Do you have any other cameras without an angle?
Can't see a bunch of anything here.
Well, we're going to need to take this for evidence.
You know, Tarun can enhance the video, maybe expand the view.
Yeah.
What can you tell us about this guy, King?
He's out of frame, but somehow we can magically expand the view.
Isn't that a gem?
Oh, this is great.
Hey, why don't we do that for the 9-11 attack of the Pentagon?
Yes, expand the view.
Just expand the view.
We should be able to see it, no problem.
That would be perfect.
Ha, ha, ha.
Oh, man.
Well, meanwhile, Haiti is gone completely.
It's complete chaos.
And so as we uncovered on the previous program, a lot of the problem is about the land ownership.
And this is really coming to a head because I think, John, you and I presume that what's happening is the Clintons are moving in and saying, hey, this is a nice spot.
You know, we've had beauty queens and all kinds of important beautiful women taking pictures of happy people, but really they're just doing land surveying.
And so there's all these camps, and now they've got the rude boys, which of course are the thugs, showing up and telling people, you've got to get off this land or else.
And we're talking 1.3 million people in tents are now being kicked off the land because this land is now to be developed by, well, the United Nations, obviously.
Is protecting the interests...
Well, who's representing the United Nations as the envoy?
That would be, let me think...
Oh, Bill Clinton!
Oh, okay.
Right.
So...
In this report from the Guardian, a shortage of funds has been compounded by the delay.
So what they're saying now is, well, the money has been delayed because the people are on land they don't own.
It's like, what happened to the emergency of all this?
So in this article it literally states, of the pledge $6 billion, only $2 billion has been committed, of which only $732 million, and not a penny more, has been spent mostly trying to put the government back on its feet.
So what does that mean?
Putting the government back on its feet.
Well, yeah, putting it back on its feet means getting the right guy elected.
Now, on the 7th, that will be Tuesday, is when they will announce the winner of the recent elections, of which, and I have tons of reports here, 90% of the people did not show up to vote.
In fact, there's video from...
Al Jazeera, which I've also linked to, of Haitians ripping down posters of Jude Celestine, the protege of outgoing President Preval, the PPP, protege President Preval, ripping it down, burning all kinds of propaganda that's been plastered all over the city.
And now...
Pandemonium is broken out.
The Haitians are killing people who they claim are propagating the formula being the cholera.
They've lynched 15 people.
Who they say were trying to spread more cholera.
They say, well of course this is kind of crazy.
A dozen people accused of importing cholera to a region that was spared were killed with machetes and stones and their corpses were burned in the streets.
They were accused of witchcraft related to cholera.
So when this happens then everything's out of control.
People are completely just freaking out.
Now, why is Haiti so important?
A couple of things.
Do you know what something in America that we use every single day, it's kind of out of season right now, but every day we use this article in these United States, and it's pretty unique to these United States, and it's made in Haiti.
Do you know what that is, John?
I actually heard this before, but I'd forgotten about it.
Baseballs.
All baseballs are pretty much all made in Haiti.
I thought they were made in the Dominican Republic.
Well, close enough, right?
Apparently they're all made in Haiti.
Now this Jude Celestine, who of course should be the winner because he is the protege of President Preval.
He and his mistress...
Tanya Shishimi has long-standing connections with the cocaine trafficking through Haiti.
This is the thing I was kind of looking for.
What drug is it?
And it turns out that it really is the cocaine industry that's being run through there.
And so this is why Haiti is a very important...
Isn't cocaine the...
Was the drug of choice running through MENA, Arkansas?
Yes.
Let me think.
Who again is the envoy?
Bill Clinton.
You see, it all comes back to Clinton.
Every single piece of this.
So Jude Celestine is, of course, the protege of Rene Preval, outgoing president.
He, his friend, his best friend, Reynald Bonafiel, was arrested during the Aristide presidency with 53 kilos of cocaine in his car and like 200 grand in cash.
And everything I can find points to billions of dollars of cocaine running through Haiti.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would explain a lot.
It does, doesn't it?
And by the way, where's the media?
Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper, where are you on all this?
Well, after they loaded his plane filled with cocaine and shipped it back, unbeknownst to him.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, why would he have anything to do with it?
But, you know, all those private jets going back and forth must have been...
That's not a bad way to move stuff out.
So the girls in the...
So these are American companies, by the way, that make the baseballs.
The girls there are paid $1.40 a day.
And making baseballs is not a good business.
It can hurt children making them.
Also, bauxite, sugar.
What's sisal?
Bauxite.
What's bauxite and what's sisal?
Bauxite is the progenitor to making aluminum.
Ooh.
Bauxite is aluminum ore.
Do you know what also is made in Haiti?
No.
The Disney clothes.
Oh.
Yes, that's right.
Disney clothes...
In fact, this is a good little thing here.
The factory girls get eight cents an hour.
And Walmart sells the Pocahontas pajamas for $11.97.
So it probably takes them like two seconds to make one.
Yeah.
Fabric's nothing.
Yeah, that's a good profit.
And it's good to know that Walmart's doing stuff other than just buying from China.
Yeah, that's good.
At least it's American companies.
Because China, they pay too much anyway.
They're up to 20 cents or something like that.
It's way too much.
It's way too much.
United States of Europe, of course.
And this is my last theory for the day, and then I'm done.
Angela Merkel warned that Germany could abandon the Euro.
This is the meme spreading across Gitmo Nation Europe.
Yeah, I like this meme.
Yeah, I like it too.
It's a little too convenient for our show.
Well, this is why I was a little bit suspicious, but how's this for a theory?
So, first of all, we give WikiLeaks a lot of credibility, right, with all these cables, and then we know that Assange has threatened to come out with news about a bank.
What if this bank is either A... Not an American bank, but it could be a central bank, it could be a European bank.
So what happened in 2008?
The bank screwed up, and then Cheney and Bernanke, they went to Congress with one paragraph and said, here's the new law you're going to pass, you're going to give us a couple trillion dollars, if not, there will be pandemonium, martial law, and we're all going to die.
Right?
Was that kind of the way it went?
Yeah, kind of.
I don't know about Cheney.
I guess he was involved somehow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they had all those secret meetings and people recused themselves.
Yeah, but they did say all hell is going to break loose if they didn't do this.
Martial law.
They literally threatened some of the congressmen with martial law.
Okay.
FEMA camps.
So now, if you are a bank and it's all messed up and it's all screwed up, but you basically want to do one last big mega massive crazy ass grab the money, The only way that could really work is if there was a bank run, and everyone went nuts and wanted to take their money, and of course there is no money, because the banks through the fractional banking system hold about what, like 1% now is actually in cash, if that?
Everything else is just digital.
Everyone runs to the bank and says, I want it.
Now, two weeks ago, we had Sheila Baer of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation say, well, you know, yeah, we insure all your accounts, but, you know, it may not be there forever.
And, you know, kind of like, remember the cover your ass memo?
Yeah, it's kind of like, well, we got money, but we don't can't, you know, yeah, they beat around the bush.
So if the euro actually collapses because of some unbelievable information that WikiLeaks put out there...
I think that there would be a massive bank run in all nations, all around the world, everyone running saying, I want my money, there is no money, and that would be the bailout of all mother of bailouts.
And that would be the fine, just everything implodes upon itself and the bankers make off with whatever is left.
That's an interesting theory.
It could be a huge setup.
I mean, I'm waiting.
All this stuff from WikiLeaks, we've talked about almost every single thing that comes out.
Whatever.
Gee, big news.
I'm actually thinking right now, yeah, I mean, it's a possibility.
I'm not saying it's like, I don't think that's what's going to happen.
First of all, I think it's going to be, I think the WikiLeaks folks are going to realize that they have some great blackmail material.
I mean, that's what this really amounts to.
And nobody's brought up the blackmail concept, which is that if you got it, say you have the goods on the bank, say it's the Bank of America, or say it's the Bundesbank, or whatever the German bank's called, Deutsche Bank, or whatever, you know, And you've got the goods.
You've got all these memos.
I mean, you know, it might be a wise thing to stave off the release of these memos with a little contribution, if you know what I'm saying.
It's not beyond these organizations to ask for a contribution now and again.
I mean, Jesse Jackson is known for, you know, coming out with kind of a, you know, we don't like the way you're hiring at your company, you know, and we might want to make a stink about it.
But then again, you know, our organization needs a little cash.
Yeah, you might want to hook us up now that our PayPal has been turned off.
That kind of thing.
I mean, they haven't done it that I know of, but it seems the logical next step.
Not that people are thinking, not that everybody's corrupt, but, you know, it's a corrupt world.
They know it is, and they have the evidence.
So what am I supposed to say?
Eh, maybe.
But, you know, this bank run thing, you know, it'll be very interesting to see.
I mean, I think something may come down this week.
I don't think so.
I don't think anything's going to happen.
There's supposed to be something happening.
There's a prediction for the 11th or something like that.
December 10th is when the bank run has been called for.
It's already been set up by the soccer star from Keep My Nation Stinky Cheese.
But, you know, if you really want to do something massive, you need, again, I'm back to SimCity, you need a couple of things in place.
You need some credible form of information, some credible source, so that could be WikiLeaks coming out with, oh, these guys are all out of money.
You need people like Merkel saying, we're just going to give up on this euro.
I mean, you know, I don't know.
Here's what I'd like to find out.
I'd like to find out if the Germans are printing Marx's.
Hmm, interesting.
You can't just drop the currency and then not have anything to replace it.
Everything ready to go, right.
Right, right.
And somebody knows.
I mean, these printing presses, they don't crank up a bunch of money without somebody knowing about it because the people that run the printing presses are all usually union people and they're, you know, they're chatty.
I'm sure they don't understand what a non-disclosure is.
And they could just say, yeah, we're printing marks.
I mean, you know.
Or you go straight to a cashless society.
That would be a perfect way to do it.
I think right now it's too hard to do that.
I think it would be very difficult to pull that off without causing a huge disruption.
They have to be printing marks.
They're printing them now.
If you looked around the areas where the printing presses are located, and there's just specific areas you wouldn't know if you lived in Germany, I'm sure, that the economy in that local area, somehow there's a buzz going on or something like that.
That means the presses are up and running.
Well, this is a call-out, then, to our producers, and I think we have a night or two, don't we, in Gitmo Nation Deutschland?
Maybe.
Mm-hmm.
It would be very interesting.
Just keep an eye out.
To wrap things up, a little update on the Hollywood Whackers.
I'm sure you heard that the police went after this guy of interest, person of interest, who then shot himself.
This is in the publicist's slaying of Ronnie Chasen.
You heard about that, John?
Yeah, we talked about it on the last show about the guy shooting.
Well, the police say, well, he probably wasn't connected.
Yeah.
No, he just shot him.
As soon as the cops showed up, he just shot himself for no apparent reason.
Yeah, but he wasn't really connected.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing going on whatsoever.
Today, also really interesting, there's a new book out, which I don't think is actually, it certainly hasn't hit my Kindle for the iPhone or the iBook store.
This is about Mark David Chapman killing John Lennon.
Yeah.
And so this book is, of course, that, you know, this is all about the catcher in their eye situation, and this guy was apparently a CIA asset, and they wanted to get rid of John Lennon because he was, you know, he was preaching peace, and that was not a good thing at the time.
That's lame.
I don't know.
He's preaching peace.
Like, he's the only guy who's ever done that.
No, but...
He was already marginalized as kind of a nutcase.
Well, he was the guy that, he was buying billboards.
I mean, he would...
So what?
Yeah, well, back in the day of Billboard, we didn't have internet and stuff.
I'm not buying that in the least.
Okay.
I think he's just a nutball.
I mean, he may have been assassinated, but I don't think it'd be for that.
And then the last thing from Gitmo Nation Deutschland was just kind of a light-ass topic.
But German scientists say the science is now in.
Kids should definitely be chewing chewing gum at school.
It's very good for you.
What?
Yes, it stimulates the brain.
What?
They're just trying to poison the public?
Yes, the Ministry of Aspartame.
The positive effect of chewing probably lies in the fact that part of the brain is in the brain stem that keeps us alert and is constantly stimulated, as a result of which the attention level rises, as does the flow of blood to the brain, and with it the ability to learn, says Siegfried Lerl, head of the Society of Brain Training and a scientist at the University of Erlangen.
Especially the sugar-free variety.
No.
Yes, he says sugar-free...
It gets so good.
How transparent is this bull crap?
Sugar-free gum has an added health benefit that it keeps your teeth clean during meals.
Yeah, and poisons you with aspartame.
I mean, no agenda says do not, repeat, do not chew gum with aspartame.
Do not.
It is poison for you.
And talking about that sort of thing, we do have a talking points memo coming out on Wednesday.
I'm going to send it to everybody on the mailing list.
Get on the mailing list today or tomorrow.
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And that will be out Wednesday.
And it's going to be about, by your suggestion, it's going to be about the TSA and the talking points that you need to use if you get into an argument with people.
Concentrating mostly on the fact that the machines are dangerous.
Yeah, and these are just little things you can use.
And again, you want to be very slow and cautious.
And you'll learn.
You'll strike out a couple of times.
But do not get angry.
But we've got some really good talking points in there.
These are the same.
This is the way the political parties operate.
If you watch the Jon Stewart show, and he does the deconstruction of a million people on those morning talk shows, you put 40 Republicans up there, and they all spew the exact same talking point because that's what these political parties do.
The Republicans do it.
These are actual little buzzwords, buzz terms, you know, little things you throw out there time and time and time again.
You just pound these home and then they become memes in the public domain.
And that's what we're doing.
We're going to produce.
And you can take it or leave it.
Some people would say, well, this is bad.
We think the TSA is great.
They're helping protect us.
If you believe that, you don't need the Talking Points memo.
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Right.
But you will use these with great enjoyment, I'm sure.
The one that always works for me is the dosimeters.
When you say, you know, it's really weird, but...
This is just a practice run, right?
It's really weird, but I read that the TSA guys were not allowed to wear dosimeters.
You know, that's what your doctor and your dentist wears, that little thing, and at the end of the week they hand it in...
They check in to see if they've had too much radiation because it's cumulative.
You know, it builds up over time.
And they're not allowed to wear those.
That's really weird, isn't it?
And you kind of question that, and you watch.
You watch people go, really?
And then you've got them hooked.
And then you've got 15 more you can unload.
These x-ray machines, which people go into, aren't run by radiologists.
Yeah, that's really...
Isn't that weird?
That's kind of interesting, the way that works, yeah.
And do you think that they'll show up at sporting events and banks and schools and...
And even if it's a small amount, will all those little amounts add up to one big amount over time if you have to go through scanners all the time?
I know.
It's just stuff I ask myself.
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Well, we also discussed other ways education officials are trying to keep kids in school.
The Toronto District School Board, for example, is studying the idea of paying low-income children if they come to school to get and get good grades, using a carrot instead of a stick, so to speak.
David Kobos has a very different approach.
He's a judge in Midland, Texas, and he sometimes orders students to wear a GPS anklet, the kind used to track parolees.
Judge Kobos is in Midland, Texas.
Good morning.
Good morning.
How did you get this idea of sentencing truant teenagers with ankle monitors?
Well, in Texas there are laws, compulsory school attendance laws, which require students to attend school from kindergarten up to their 18th birthday.
Compulsory school attendance laws.
And simply what I'm doing is...
I'm fulfilling my duties as a judge to enforce those particular laws, and the law is structured that gives me some discretion in what is reasonable to ensure that the orders of the court and state law are being followed.
We do have an attorney general opinion who has confirmed that the use of ankle monitors in failure to attend cases is reasonable.
And I started using them before our state attorney general was asked whether that was reasonable, because as a judge I determined that it was.
And how I got the idea is we have a pre-trial process.
I have an office here, which if an individual is unable to bond out of jail because they don't have the financial means, the county has a program whereby they will put up the bond at a reduced rate for the defendant to bond out, so therefore we're not overcrowding our jails.
And they use GPS monitors.
And so I just got together with the pretrial people, asked them if I could borrow a couple of those monitors for a test.
I installed them on a couple of young people that were having problems at home, running away, not going to school, and it worked.
What does the monitor actually do?
It tells us their location.
For example, if a person is chronically skipping school, Then we place a monitor on them.
For example, if they're at home and they're supposed to be at school between 7.30 and 3, then we get an alert that they're outside of the prescribed zone, and therefore we can hone in or send the troops, the constable, and I have a staff of four people.
I've essentially created a probation department within my court.
Then we can pinpoint the offender.
Some would say that's pretty extreme.
What kind of a reaction has there been to this approach?
Well, I haven't had the ACLU contact me yet.
Parents are appreciative.
The young people, believe it or not, are appreciative.
I've had some come in and ask to be fitted with a monitor, and I'll ask them, why?
And they'll say, because it will help me.
So it kind of serves an electronic conscience as well.
So under what circumstances would you sentence a student to wear such a GPS if they don't ask?
Well, it depends on the circumstances.
Number one, we may have a student that continually runs away from home or leaves the house, doesn't come back until 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning.
We may have a student that is involved in drug activity or alcohol activity or is just constantly, chronically skipping school.
For example, I use what I call the three-strike rule.
Once they get filed on to come to court, that's strike one.
If they violate the court's order, they're brought back to court and cautioned about it.
And the consequences of violating the court order.
The third time could include some sanctions such as suspension of their driver's license.
It could be 48-hour confinement in a juvenile lock-up facility for the weekend.
It could be placement of a GPS monitor.
So what are the causes of truancy as you see it?
Well, there's a lot of factors.
I mean, it could be a lack of motivation on the student's part.
It could be uninvolved parents because we know that a child's success or failure in school is directly related to parental involvement.
The more a parent or guardian are involved, we see statistically that the children have better attendance.
Better behavior and a better educational experience.
On the other hand, parents who aren't involved, we see behavior issues, we see attendance issues, and we see academic issues as well.
So drug use, learning disabilities, lack of resources, there's a number of reasons why Why kids don't think that school's important.
There's even complaints that the school system isn't the best in the world.
And people say, well, you're ordering kids to go to a crappy school.
Well, you know...
The law doesn't give me authority over a crappy school or a crappy teacher.
I tell parents, look, you've got an elected school board.
The school is yours.
You pay taxes.
It is your school.
So I suggest you get involved at the campus level.
You get involved with the school board.
And you do whatever you think you need to do on that part to enhance the school.
I don't want to go.
You talk about uninvolved parents.
Have you thought about putting ankle bracelets on them, making them spend time with their kids?
Yes, I have.
And what I do occasionally, more often than not, is I will order parents to go to school, to spend time with their child in school, to bring me proof that they're doing that.
Yes, I do.
Do you do that?
Does that work?
Sure it does.
Sure it does.
And the ACLU hasn't gone after you on that one, either the Civil Liberties Union?
Nope.
I've ordered parents, look, you're going to walk little Johnny to class, you're going to sit in little Johnny's class for an hour, and you're going to get the teacher and the principal to sign off, and you're going to bring me that proof.
If you fail to bring me the proof, you're in violation of the court order.
And since you're an adult, then we'll have a contempt hearing, and I can confine you in jail for 72 hours plus hours.
Issue a monetary fine if you violate the order of the court.
But we're not talking about criminal charges here.
How much leeway do you have as a judge to deal?
No, we're not talking about criminal charges.
It is a criminal offense.
It is a class C misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed $500 plus court cost for a conviction of failure to attend school or parent contributing to truancy.
So how do you measure success?
Do you have numbers that show if this is working?
Yes, we measure success based on the daily average attendance of the school We measure success by each individual student's attendance, looking at their attendance prior to, looking at their attendance while they're under the court order, and their attendance following their experience in court.
I've been doing this for 12 years now, and I started out with a 95% noncompliance rate.
Twelve years later, we have about a 90% to 95% compliance rate.
So we've turned it upside down.
And academically, how do students who come through your court perform once they're back in school?
It seems that the majority of them, once they go to school and they make the effort, then it looks like their grades are increasing at least one grade level.
And what level are we talking?
We're talking from F to D to C's and B's and A's.
And what grades?
We're talking from kindergarten up to the 12th grade.
Oh, you wouldn't do this to a kindergarten kid, would you?
I'd do it to a parent.
The parent has to make sure that the child is on time.
I order them to walk the child to class.
I may order them to sit in class if we have a behavior issue.
And they have to bring me proof, updated attendance reports.
They may have to get a teacher to sign off on the fact that they've walked little Johnny to class every morning like I've ordered them to.
And if they don't, and I tell them up front, there are consequences to violating the order of the court.
Okay, well, Judge Kobus, we have to leave it there, but thank you for sharing your thoughts on how to deal with this with us.
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