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	Your ass is radioactive!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, November 25th, 2010.
	Time for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 255.
	This is no agenda.
	Well, Turkey is an appropriate symbol for us as I come to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, and the People's Republic of Southern California.
	People turning into turkeys.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, the home of Ready Kilowatt, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	And in the morning to you, my friend, John.
	In the morning to you, and in the morning to all ships at sea.
	And all boots on the ground and to all our human resources in the chat room on this Thanksgiving day at noagendachat.net where the party is always happening, where everyone is a good human resource, charged up and ready to go the way your government loves you.
	The home of the what did you say there in Silicon Valley?
	The home of Reddy Kilowatt.
	What's Reddy Kilowatt?
	He's the guy who is the mascot for Pacific Gas and Electric.
	He's a very rich guy, because I know he takes all of my money.
	Well, whatever the case is, he's anorexic.
	He's a vegan.
	Reddy Kilowatt is a vegan, I'm telling you.
	Happy Thanksgiving to you, John.
	Happy Thanksgiving to everybody out in the open.
	And I want to mention, go to the blog.
	Actually, there's a link on the first picture of the turkey in the bikini.
	To link to the bottom thing so we understand the facts about Thanksgiving, which have nothing to do with pilgrims and Indians, but a resolution...
	Made by Abraham Lincoln in 1861 to commemorate the death of the soldiers in the Civil War, the first year of the Civil War.
	You know, Mickey was...
	That's a very funny picture, by the way.
	Mickey was telling me she was in her class.
	Now, this is an advanced class of actors.
	I'm sorry, just receiving the bat signal there.
	And so it's people from all over the world, and the guy who runs this is Eric Morris.
	And he was explaining the Thanksgiving celebration to the children from foreign lands.
	Yeah, it was the crock of crap, I'm sure.
	And he literally laid down the...
	Because, you know, Mickey knows the story, because I've told her, of course, the true story, like you just told it.
	And he laid down the, well, you know, after we could finally harvest something ourselves, we sat down with the Indians and we had a big feast.
	And then one of the foreign kids says, well, didn't you guys like murder all the Indians?
	So in fact, wasn't that like celebrating the Holocaust?
	Eric Morris being quite Jewish was very upset.
	No, this is not true!
	But I think we should celebrate the Holocaust of the Native American Indian.
	I think that's a perfect way to celebrate.
	Yeah, well, that goes to what two Indian viewers or listeners we have.
	What do you mean?
	I'm actually giving the Native American Indians props.
	We don't celebrate it.
	I mean, it's not like, yay!
	No, but it's obviously meant as a, what do you call it?
	Cynicism.
	Cynicism.
	That's what it is.
	So anyway, so Thanksgiving, as we know, it really didn't begin until the 1860s.
	And then it still took a while to determine when to actually have the celebration.
	And then the cock and bull story came up, like, I don't know, in the 40s or 30s.
	I don't know even when that began.
	I haven't yet to track down the day that that was invented.
	And then, of course, it really has just turned into a day of shopping experience.
	Or a pre-shopping.
	The pre-shopping.
	Nobody goes shopping.
	Why didn't people just go shopping on Wednesday?
	No, no, no.
	Let me tell you.
	I had to pick up a tuxedo.
	As you know, I rent them.
	Yeah.
	And I'm glad I do because now I have to have a white one.
	So it would be kind of lame if I had a black tuxedo and I had to go to this white party.
	What, are they racist?
	Yeah, it's a blackface, of course.
	No, you douchebag.
	It's the opening of the supper club, and so the dress code is silver on white.
	You should have a silver tux.
	Yeah, of course.
	Every man should have a silver tux, but I don't.
	So he went to the Glendale Galleria Mall.
	Oh, my God.
	In rented clothes.
	No, I went to rent the clothes there.
	Oh my god, John.
	It was packed.
	Everybody was already in there, because they do have pre-Black Friday sales going on.
	Yeah, they're trying to move it up to July.
	Yeah, the whole thing is just a crazy-ass shopping experience.
	You know what I thought was peculiar, because I went shopping on Wednesday for the Thanksgiving vegetables and potatoes and all the things you need to have with the turkey, and I did get a kosher valley.
	Somebody recommended getting a kosher turkey, because I mentioned before that our heirloom birds are dead from the farm that we were going to get them from.
	So somebody said, get a kosher turkey because it's been pre-brined and it's usually a free range.
	The kosher has certain rules.
	So I got this kosher turkey from Kosher Valley and then I went shopping yesterday and I said, okay, I put it off until about 3 o'clock and said, okay, I'm going to have to do it.
	I'm going to have to get into the vegetable place and Monterey Foods in this case and go shopping.
	It's going to be a madhouse.
	Dead empty.
	You know, I went to do my shopping yesterday.
	It was a madhouse.
	It was not dead empty.
	Dead empty.
	It was a madhouse.
	Hey, you know what I got?
	I got Brussels sprouts on the vine.
	Yeah.
	That's cool.
	You just have to chop them off the vine, so what's the point?
	It looks like a medieval club.
	It's decorative, yes.
	It's cool.
	And it's like, oh, that's how they grow.
	Okay.
	Kids don't know that.
	If you said to somebody, hey, grab me a stick of those, they'd be like, oh, daddy, I don't want to eat that.
	What is that?
	Has Brussels sprouts on a stick, child.
	Yeah, I decided to go with the chard.
	Yeah, I'm cooking too, and I am starting at 1 o'clock.
	We've got a turkey that's way too big for the amount of people coming.
	How big did you get?
	16 pounds.
	It's only going to be like 5 people.
	16?
	You're going to have a lot of turkey sandwiches.
	I know.
	That's Miss Mickey, though.
	Why don't you just buy a loaf of bread, make a lot of turkey sandwiches with the leftovers, and then go out.
	And hand them out.
	Yeah, hand them out to the homeless.
	Yeah, I think we will.
	I think that's exactly what we...
	In fact, we discussed that very thing.
	Yeah, why not?
	Yeah, I think that's exactly what we're doing.
	There's plenty down in L.A. Yep, they're out sunning today.
	They're tanning.
	They are.
	They lie on the street, and they're, like, rolling over and tanning.
	No, I'm not kidding.
	I see this all the time.
	It's nuts.
	Anyway, so as per usual, we are here doing a show.
	As the U.S. Postal Service would say, neither rain nor sleep nor snow or some other crap.
	Gloom of night.
	Gloom of night.
	We are here and it doesn't matter what day...
	The fake holidays fall on because we really don't recognize them because they're fake.
	And that's why we're here with No Agenda, bringing you the show.
	So let's give a few shout-outs to today's executive producers.
	We've got one executive producer and four associate executives.
	Okay.
	Two of them being new people.
	Starting with Norman McDonough in Kirchner, Ontario.
	345.67, pronounced McDonough.
	Good job.
	Norman McDonough.
	Nice numerology there.
	3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
	Nice.
	Thank you very much.
	You were close last time.
	No, I wasn't.
	Happy Thanksgiving and keep up the great work.
	And he says in memoriam to Cranky Beats, the famous podcast.
	I think you should send all of your guests a dollar.
	A what?
	All of your guests who are on Cranky Geeks, you should send a dollar now.
	I'd be out to $250,000.
	Right.
	Christopher, or five bucks, one of the two.
	Christopher Scalenda, Boulder, Colorado, Associate Executive Producer.
	Hey, it's my man.
	256 to help the extra, which is today's show.
	Every week I hope somebody gives us the exact amount of the show number.
	Oh, that's a great idea actually.
	Yeah, 256 to help buy an extra bit you'll need to store episode.
	Because, right, explain the bits and the binaries, because episode 256, that's our final bit, right?
	Yeah, right, then you go to another, something rolls over.
	Another K of memory.
	Who knows?
	Chris Galenda, by the way, the engineering genius behind the Big App Show on Android.
	And he's obviously talented and smart and generous.
	And loving, yes.
	Simon Bennett, Ipswich, Suffolk, UK, 255.
	Jonas Astrum, Vindelin, someplace, which makes a mess on my screen.
	Sweden.
	It's Vensterbotten, I think.
	Vensterbotten.
	$200.
	Greetings, Adam and John, from a snowy someplace.
	If I could get in the morning and a...
	He'd be a happy camper.
	A toot on your train whistle.
	He wanted a toot.
	He wanted a toot.
	That would be great.
	And he wants a Lumberg.
	Great.
	Can you come in on those TPS reports?
	Can you come in on that?
	Yeah.
	Phillip Smith, Frankston, Victoria, Australia, $200.
	And those are our associate executive producers for this show.
	And I want to thank all of them.
	And Adam will tell you what it means.
	Yeah, before I get to that, though, a couple of quick PR mentions.
	A reminder that the red No Agenda Dice are available until November 30th for your pre-order at noagendadice.com.
	And a shout-out to Will, who, for some reason the picture showed up sideways in my show note thingy here.
	Who is really propagating the formula.
	John, did you see this email where there was a sign on campus at his college and it said, Interested in becoming an ecologist, naturalist, teacher, field scientist, extension agent?
	There's a new course, Biodiversité, Causes, Consequences, and Conservation.
	And that'll be offered through winter 2011 at the OSU eCampus.
	And he posted a sign underneath it, right underneath it, and he took a picture of it.
	It says, tired of being another slave amongst all the human resources?
	The science is in!
	Biodiversité!
	Money, hysteria, and global governance.
	Learn all you need about biodiversité.
	And he spelled it with the A accent, A accent.
	And more at NoAgendaShow.com, live in the morning, Sunday and Thursday at 9 a.m.
	I think that that is a very fine example of a local PR executive who gets it.
	That is the way to do it.
	Yeah, I mean, that's total, you know, total grassroots cool stuff.
	It's to what kind of subversion we're looking for.
	Exactly.
	Keep it up.
	Come on, kids.
	Bring up your game.
	Yeah, really.
	We are corrupting the youth of America, and we're proud of it.
	So, Norman McDonough, our executive producer for episode 255, associate executive producers, Christopher Scalenda, Simon Bennett, Jonas Asterman, Philip Smith, thank you all so much for your support of the No Agenda Show.
	The only way we keep this show running is through your support and loving giving levels.
	And you can do that at Dvorak.org slash NA. Of course, you now receive an official credit.
	It is good.
	And you can put it on the IMDB. You can put it in your email signature, on your resume.
	And unlike Hollywood, we actually will vote for you.
	Everybody else, just like Will, you've got to go out and propagate the formula, people.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Real.
	World. Order.
	Everybody say it loud and proud now!
	Shut up, slave!
	And actually, I do want to mention it was Simon Bennett, who did give the exact 255.
	Chris did it for next week's show, but hopefully somebody else will follow up.
	So you were wrong, and I was wrong by agreeing with you.
	Well, you know, as I thought about it...
	Duh!
	How stupid are we?
	Yeah, because it makes more logical sense to exactly what they did, which was, you know, the opportunity for positive PR for the TSA. We did suggest the possibility that this would happen.
	Yeah, but no, but we predicted incorrectly, and I think we have to say it.
	And when I started reading...
	All the messaging and I started seeing what they were doing.
	I was like, of course it makes so much sense.
	It makes more sense.
	So for people who have not heard it, we said, well, they're probably going to slow it down.
	Planes will take off half empty.
	It's going to be a madhouse.
	No, quite the opposite.
	And like, duh, of course it makes so much sense to do it that way.
	They were passing people by the naked body scanners, putting them only through...
	Rushing them through.
	Rushing them through, making it really easy, really friendly.
	They had TSA PR people at all the major airports doing live shots, because I checked around the dial.
	Live shots on the morning show, so they had a different guy everywhere, really friendly.
	And, of course, the mainstream media is way buying into this.
	Way buying into it.
	And it was interesting because...
	Pistol Pete there, the administrator of the PSA, Pistoli, you spell it Pistoli, but I guess it's Pistol.
	I got a note from one of our producers who works at Mainstream Media, and it was a forward from the White House that he was doing a telephone conference, press conference.
	And it had the number to dial in and everything.
	I'm like, yeah, great, I got a question for him.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	And in fact, my question was going to be, it was very simple.
	You're already telling us it wasn't answered.
	Of course it wasn't answered.
	Huh.
	I was going to say, in the morning, Mr.
	Pistol, two questions.
	I was so looking forward to that.
	I was going to say, although Johns Hopkins has deemed certain low levels of backscatter x-rays safe for the traveling public, it is unknown if all AIT machines adhere to the proposed ANSI standard.
	In regards to the amount of radiation emitted from the backscatter AIT machines, when can the public expect to have detailed information on the testing of each manufacturer's machines to be posted on the TSA.gov website, and why are TSA agents not allowed to wear dosimeters?
	I thought that was going to be a good question, right?
	Oh, yeah, right.
	So I call in, you know, I get the...
	Now, first of all, I call in and I say, you know, so you've got to do first name.
	Someone actually live answers.
	You know, Adam Curry, spell it.
	What's the outlet of you from?
	No agenda.
	Could you spell that?
	Yeah.
	N-O-A-G-E-N-D-A. Where are you calling from?
	Los Angeles.
	Okay.
	And then I'm on, you know, it's like I'm on before the call and you have to press star one to ask a question.
	I press star one, like three seconds later, click, I'm disconnected.
	So, you know, I dial back in, go through the little rigmarole and then I can't ask questions anymore.
	The star one doesn't work.
	And there was all kinds of like, hey John, how you doing?
	It was almost like one of those where analysts call for a quarterly...
	Yeah, everybody's chummy.
	They always say, hey, great quarter, y'all.
	Great cue.
	Yeah, I really loved your numbers.
	Great quarter.
	It's like, hey John, how you doing?
	There were a couple of questions which I think...
	May have still been set up, but there was something I did learn, and it came from the following question.
	There's a press release from CARE, one of the Muslim groups in the U.S. here, that says that you guys will allow some people to pat down themselves.
	Is that true?
	To pat down themselves.
	Interesting question, right?
	So let's listen to his initial answer.
	So we allow a private screening if somebody requests that in terms of whether it's the pat-down, if they opt out of the IT. So that's always an option.
	But in terms of...
	You can just see people like scrambling around, right?
	Get the care press release!
	Where the hell is this?
	We've got to figure this one out.
	We just do that with our standard protocol for those people who want to go see their loved ones.
	Okay, so now I spliced that a little too tight.
	So now he's answering a different question.
	And he comes back to the self-patdown.
	Very interesting piece of information.
	If I can just go back, I'm not sure I had the full question on the, for example, the religious headwear things.
	We do allow a self, for example, somebody could pat down their own headwear, if you will, and then we do explosive trace detection of the hand on there to make sure that that person, if there's not exposed it in the headwear, it could be concealed or something.
	So just to clarify that.
	I found that very interesting.
	So if you can pat down your headgear, where you can hide enough PETN to blow your head off, why can't you pat down your own crotch and say, here, smell my finger?
	Yeah, smell my finger.
	Pull my finger.
	Swipe my finger.
	That makes a lot more sense.
	In fact, it makes a lot more sense than this groping.
	Doesn't it?
	I mean, isn't it the whole naked body scanner is to see suspicious packages other than the huge ones we have, John, you and I, is to see suspicious packages which could contain non-metallic explosives.
	I mean, don't you want to be wiping people and stuff down and can't you just do a self-pat down?
	Well, you know, they can do a swab of you, too.
	I mean, but the point is, is they have an issue with the Muslims who are going to be wearing stuff that they can't be touched.
	But it's ridiculous.
	No, the whole thing's ridiculous.
	The whole thing is idiotic.
	And let's go over.
	I want to get this out of the way.
	Let me get a couple of clips done.
	And yes.
	I'm completely irked by the story and the fact that what they pulled, the stunt they pulled on Thanksgiving by rushing everybody through the magnetometers and then coming out and saying, oh, see, there was no protest.
	Things actually went better than usual.
	Nobody cares.
	They all, you know, and then they start citing this Washington Post poll, which, by the way, if you look at it, you know, that ABC News Washington Post poll, 64% of the American public support this.
	Every time they show this poll, they do show the sample size.
	What do you think the sample size is?
	1,000 people.
	514.
	Even less.
	It's like I got that many people at the house for Thanksgiving tonight.
	We have at least that many listeners.
	So it's a bogus poll and the media's all over it.
	It's not a polling of people who are actually flying.
	And then when they go and start asking people at the airport, you get a bunch of...
	The shills.
	I'm going to play this clip.
	You got a kid.
	This is the clip of Stooges at airport.
	You got a kid who's got a speech defect.
	Hey, no laughing at people with defects.
	He's got one.
	And then there's a guy who's like some, you know, he says it's all bullcrap.
	And then there's a guy who says, I think it's great.
	And you look at this guy, I'm telling you, he's a pervert.
	I think it's worth it.
	I'm sorry.
	And then somebody else.
	But just play this.
	This is what the media...
	Hmm.
	You still there?
	Hold on.
	Oh, that was weird.
	Hold on.
	You there?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	I'm sorry.
	Something happened.
	Just say, this is where the media what?
	This is what the media feeds us.
	I think it's worth it to keep safe.
	To get patted down?
	Well, I'd rather not do it, but to be safe.
	It's worth it.
	I mean, what else?
	Can you do?
	I think it's unnecessary, personally.
	I don't like it.
	But I didn't feel unsafe.
	But I didn't feel like it made me any safer.
	Had the pat-down this morning in Tallahassee, and it was no problem whatsoever.
	I was not offended in the least.
	Earlier today, we spoke...
	Amazing they couldn't find one person who didn't like it.
	It's just amazing how that works.
	You know, Napolitano was on...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	They start off as Sylvester the Cat, then they go to Cleveland from the Cleveland show.
	Around the globe!
	Napolitano was on Charlie Rose, and she rolled out the meme.
	There is a meme for the securite in America and around Gitmo Nation.
	Here it comes.
	And what I say is look.
	First of all, look.
	Look.
	You stupid slave.
	I want you to look.
	Look.
	And what I say is look.
	Look.
	Look.
	The threat is real.
	We know that from last Christmas.
	So, first of all, John, the threat is real.
	We know that from last Christmas.
	A year ago.
	Yeah, yeah, but we know that.
	It's real.
	Outers or liquids or gels onto a plane to use as an explosive.
	The new machines give us a much better chance of finding those kinds of things.
	And the revised pat-down procedure helps us to make sure that if something appears as an anomaly, that the screener really can't tell what it is, that we can't resolve that anomaly.
	In the end result, what it means is that you are safer getting on the plane and you can have greater confidence that the other people on the plane with you have been properly screened.
	So that is really the new meme, and this is what Pistol Pete was propagating, is you want to know that the people around you have been scanned.
	It's not about you, it's about you want to make sure the other guy is scanned.
	And this is a very dangerous precedent because you are turning the people against themselves.
	And this is an ongoing theme, which we call a meme.
	And just wait for it continuously.
	This was the, don't you want to be in an airplane where you know everyone else has been screened?
	Yeah, you're right.
	We should have spotted this a couple shows ago.
	Yeah.
	I'm actually surprised.
	It's so subtle that we didn't spot it earlier.
	Because Pete was doing this.
	Well, it's not about you.
	It's about making sure you're safe.
	Because all these creeps around you.
	All the public, all your fellow citizens are a bunch of criminals, and you want to make sure that they've been scammed.
	Exactly.
	Now, she said something really interesting, which you could interpret two ways.
	Guess which way I interpreted it.
	Are they more of them?
	Are they using people who have a U.S. passport?
	You know, all that.
	Right.
	Well, a couple of things.
	I think we can say that the big long-term conspiracy involving lots of players who were in on the conspiracy, like 9-11.
	I mean, so how do you read that?
	I read it quite clearly.
	But wait, there's more.
	That has changed.
	Why?
	Because our adversaries have figured out that we've gotten pretty good.
	Two guys in a cave.
	But she says it so incredibly.
	She says the conspiracy has changed.
	All the people were in it.
	Why?
	Because the other guys.
	She literally says the other people who are not necessarily the conspiracy.
	I mean, words matter, right?
	To me, they really matter.
	Just listen to the transition where she says, why has the conspiracy changed?
	Listen to it.
	Why?
	Because our adversaries have...
	The adversaries, that's the other guys.
	Am I reading this wrong?
	I mean, she probably didn't mean it that way, but it sounds a lot like a Freudian slip to me.
	...have figured out that we've gotten pretty good at finding large conspiracies.
	So the kinds of attacks that are planned or that are being contemplated are one person, two person, not high tech, but low tech.
	That sounds like this show.
	We're not high-tech.
	We're low-tech.
	We're not one person.
	We're two persons.
	We are the adversaries, John.
	We are.
	I don't think we're low-tech.
	One more from Janet.
	This woman is dangerous.
	Hell yeah.
	And here's what's coming next.
	By the way, 300 individual emails.
	All different.
	All varying just a little bit with links to stories and stuff.
	Well, I think they're going to continue to probe the system and try to find a way through it.
	I think the tighter we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about going on to mass transit with the trains.
	This is all over the news.
	So what do we need to be talking about?
	I just wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
	Yeah!
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Oh, no, you didn't.
	Oh, no, you didn't call for the Obama clip when I wasn't ready for it.
	Hold on.
	The Obama clip.
	Yeah, here it is.
	Obama about trains.
	What we're talking about is a vision for high-speed rail in America.
	Imagine boarding a train in the center of a city.
	No racing to an airport and across the terminal.
	No delays.
	No sitting on the tarmac.
	No lost luggage.
	No taking off your shoes.
	I think the tighter we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about going on to mass transit or to trains or maritime.
	Maritime.
	That's an expensive word for boats.
	What do we need to be doing to strengthen our protections?
	Yeah, and then public buses will be next.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, that's because they've got to sell these damn machines.
	Well, so let me just reiterate what we're saying is, of course, what has happened now, and we are turkeys.
	You can call us sheeple, but we're turkeys.
	We're like, Oh, okay, whatever.
	I want to make sure the guy next to me has been screened.
	And pat-downs, well, just go through the scanner.
	And they continue to lie about the radiation.
	No radiation.
	That's the proper amount, is none.
	They never talk about radiation.
	Never.
	We have letter after letter coming out of the woodwork from radiologists that say they would never walk through this thing.
	Right.
	And Johns Hopkins has not approved these machines.
	They have come out and said, well, you know, a little bit of radiation is okay.
	Did you see, by the way, the...
	I think it was...
	Let me see.
	I think it was CBS. This was an amazing report.
	And they said...
	Hold on.
	Let me just find it here.
	It's Radiation Truths and Lies.
	That's what it is.
	And it is a CBS News online special report.
	And they are essentially telling us that the scanners, according to Johns Hopkins, which is not true, by the way.
	You can look it up and I've put those links in the show notes again.
	Johns Hopkins has not evaluated the machines.
	They have come out with a report regarding amounts of radiation.
	And so here we have a little slideshow, and there's also the Health Physics Society, which is a professional organization.
	And so here's the truth.
	This is literally how the airport scanners and 12 must-know radiation risks.
	Are airport scanners dangerous?
	The Transportation Safety Administration says absolutely not.
	But travelers have expressed their doubts, fearing that submitting to the scans will expose them to hazardous radiation.
	What's the truth?
	Well, CBS News, the Ministry of Truth, asked leading radiation safety experts from MIT and Respected Health Physics Society for the real scoop.
	Real scoop on radiation levels from the new scanners and 12 other everyday radiation sources, many of which you probably never thought about.
	So they've got 12 truths, John.
	This is truth.
	Okay?
	So one scan from a typical backscatter security scanner might deliver 0.005 to 0.01 millirem.
	By the way, that's a fluctuation of 100%, which I don't think is good for any calibrated machine.
	No, and by the way, these machines are not run by radiologists.
	They're not checked daily.
	They can be out of kilter and zapping the crap out of them, for all you know.
	And everybody also says that since they target the skin, it's an overdose on the skin itself.
	You're going to get skin cancer cases all over the country.
	So MIT, Dr.
	Francis Mara, says there is no known risk from being scanned.
	It's never been demonstrated.
	Well, yeah, because it's never been researched.
	That's why there's no known risk.
	I mean, no known risk doesn't mean there's no risk.
	Okay, so what are the other sources of radiation, John?
	Radioactive water.
	Did you know that drinking three glasses of water a day for a year might give you a cumulative exposure of about 0.045 millirems?
	That's at least five times more than the dose from an airport scanner.
	Did you know that, John?
	Well, obviously the scanners have nothing going on.
	No.
	They don't even work.
	Let's look at the next one.
	Some buildings are made with stone known to emit tiny amounts of radiation.
	Unbelievable.
	Case in point, New York's landmark train station Grand Central Terminal.
	Wait for your train for an hour there and you might be exposed to about 0.06 millirem, at least six times more than an airport scanner.
	Wow.
	I didn't know that.
	They're coming up with a million excuses.
	Power plants are permitted to emit tiny quantities of radiation.
	People living within 50 miles, like the Simpsons...
	Can be exposed up to 0.1 millirem daily.
	My gosh, John, that's like 10 times more than being naked body scanned.
	And coal contains traces of radioactive substances.
	Living 50 miles away from a coal...
	I mean, you're screwed if you live near a nuclear reactor.
	You might as well just shoot yourself now.
	No matter where you live, in fact, you're exposed to low levels of background radiation.
	Notice how they put the background there in quotes because it's backscatter background.
	This is unbelievable.
	That's a connection.
	From air, soil, water, and cosmic radiation that bombards the Earth from outer space.
	I thought I was the crackpot.
	Oh, my God.
	As a break, play the Apologist Stooges medley, which is a bunch of people on MSNBC and other stations, you know, with their crap.
	And the very end is Matt Lauer.
	Okay, let's listen.
	There's this minor inconvenience that people are having to go through.
	It's not ideal.
	We should fix it.
	But I just, I think that people are getting very upset about something that's not that big a deal.
	I mean, this has to be done.
	I mean, I'm sorry that it's intrusive, and I'm very sorry that people are insulted, but, you know, the alternative is that we risk something.
	What does it say about us as a culture that we get more bent out of shape about this issue than we do about massive unemployment?
	I hate to even think of what happens if the government caves in on this and relaxes these procedures, and someone manages to get something on board a plane and kill us all!
	Unbelievable.
	John, did you know that the human body emits radiation?
	Oh, well, just walking around.
	Why don't I just x-ray myself?
	No way.
	Let me just wrap myself in some film.
	One year of spooning with your spouse might expose you to two millirems, at least 200 times the dose from an airport scanner.
	Mickey, your ass is radioactive!
	Unbelievable.
	These guys never let up.
	We cannot win.
	This battle cannot be won.
	Honey, your ass is apparently radioactive.
	All we can do is tell people to stay out of the machine and get the groping and get it over with and know that in some areas, the cops, by the way, so I got a story off, I was doing, I can't deny you to say who.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	What?
	What?
	Your ass is radioactive.
	How?
	Trust me.
	Have you seen that thing?
	My ass.
	Yeah.
	Hey, the joke is over.
	Yeah, the joke is over, John says.
	All right.
	She came in, you know.
	It's like when she comes into the room, I got to respond.
	All right.
	What do you have, John?
	Guy is apparently a policeman in a local jurisdiction area where apparently I guess they can arrest the TSA for doing certain things.
	In other words, if they grope you and somebody files charges, the cops actually, there's some local cops, and I think this takes place around the country if you think about it.
	So local cops love to come in and arrest TSA people.
	Yeah, of course they do.
	And apparently a situation that occurred in an airport, the guy comes in, happily cuffs the TSA guy, and makes sure to walk him past the line of people waiting to go in, and he gets a round of applause.
	Of course.
	From all the passengers.
	The TSA has a serious, serious problem if this ever happens.
	And apparently it does.
	And the cops just relish the idea, because they have to travel once in a while and know what a bunch of...
	Well, they also...
	Cops...
	Because of the badges.
	Cops actually earn their badge, and these TSA people were handed them to...
	They had, like, merit badges, Boy Scout badges, and to give them some semblance of authority, they were given real badges.
	And I'm sure that pissed cops off.
	It's about the badge, you know?
	It really is.
	Yeah, no, the badge is important.
	It's not to be marginalized by a bunch of, you know, these phonies.
	Okay, so let's move off this topic unless you've got something more.
	I do.
	I want to do the one last thing, which is the Matthews douchebag clip.
	Matthews had a...
	Who's a...
	Chris Matthews?
	Yeah, Chris Matthews, who is a...
	Oh, he's a douchebag.
	That's it.
	He's a stooge for the TSA in this regard, and he thinks that the scanners are great.
	So he has on this Ginger McCall, who is actually the lawyer for Epic, and they're suing the TSA, and he puts her on and makes her the but...
	Of an attack.
	He tries to shout her down.
	He eventually insults her, puts words in her mouth, claims that she's calling...
	He claims he knows nothing about the Chertoff thing.
	The whole interview with her trying to defend herself is a catastrophe.
	And he is a total douchebag in this regard.
	If you play this clip by the end, you will be disgusted the way it ends up.
	National Security Theater.
	It makes people feel better.
	What do you mean a lot of money changes?
	$170,000 each for these machines.
	$2.4 billion in the GAO report.
	So, I'm following you.
	What about the money changing hands?
	Who's getting this money you're talking about?
	Probably the same revolving door people that get money on these projects.
	So our government, there's dirty business here.
	Well, there's a problem with a revolving door, people going from agencies into corporations.
	You're saying we're buying faulty equipment because somebody is getting the money who has influence.
	Yes, there's an influence.
	Who are you accusing here, specifically?
	Well, Michael Chertoff has been shown to have ties to these companies, but it's not specific to him.
	Okay, so Michael Chertoff is what, in the tank with some businesses?
	They're doing business with the government, you're saying?
	Yes.
	Okay, how about Ray LaHood?
	I'm not familiar.
	Well, he's the head of Transportation Safety.
	I mean, he's the head of Transportation.
	Is he part of this problem?
	I can't really speak to that.
	But you're saying we have machinery now because a Republican in the past administration had some sweetheart deal with some suppliers, some vendors.
	It's not just Chertoff.
	TSA has a history of this.
	Who else is involved in buying these faulty machines?
	I'm not going to name names for you.
	I can talk about the machines and their capabilities and their lack of capability.
	See, we're finally getting to the bottom of it.
	You believe the United States government is using faulty machinery because of corrupt deals.
	Dude, does he not read USA Today?
	I mean, USA Today published a list of people who were involved in this.
	Well, not only that, but she's being actually, you know, she's just kind of, you know, explaining what she sees as going on from the perspective of Epic.
	And he's going on putting words in her mouth constantly, and then he makes a weird accusation at the end.
	The whole thing is ridiculous.
	I think that this machinery, I know that this machinery is not effective at detecting that.
	And you're saying because Michael Chertoff was head of transportation safety.
	No, he wasn't.
	He was Homeland Security, not Transportation Security.
	Right.
	The head of Homeland Security was involved in this.
	That's the only reason that I can see for the United States spending $2.4 billion on technology that's not effective at picking up the powdered explosives that it is.
	Do you know anything about this, Earl?
	Do you have any reason to believe that our government's corrupt when it comes to Homeland Security and protecting us?
	There's gambling going on over there, Earl!
	What's happening?
	At airports?
	I want to believe that the American security apparatus is acting in the best interest of keeping Americans safe.
	And that the administration, meaning the TSA at this point, has acted with whatever information they have that rose to the level of scrutiny that we have now.
	I think at the end of the day, we all want the right thing, which is for people to be safe and secure in traveling about the country and the world.
	Well, I want to have Michael Chertoff, if you're watching, I want you on this show to defend yourself.
	That's a serious charge.
	That's how I book all my guests.
	Hey, Michael Chertoff, if you're watching this piece of crap show, I want you on.
	You're accusing him of corruption.
	I am not accusing him of corruption.
	You're accusing him of buying folding equipment because the deals are made.
	I'm saying that TSA has a history.
	TSA has a history.
	Why doesn't she just say, yeah, that's what I'm accusing him of.
	Why doesn't she just say, yeah, yeah, that's right.
	She's a lawyer.
	Wow, okay.
	Hey, Chris Matthews, if you're listening to this show, I want to be on your show.
	I'll say it.
	Yeah, that's exactly what I'm accusing him of.
	And by the way, he was saying, oh, we shouldn't profile.
	This is another one of those things that's just coming out.
	We shouldn't profile people.
	No, that's not American.
	We shouldn't profile.
	We need scanners.
	When he was director of Homeland Security, he was saying that.
	...of buying equipment before they've actually demonstrated the effectiveness of this equipment.
	Why have they done it in this case?
	You said it because of a sweetheart arrangement with vendors.
	That would be speculation.
	Well, you're admitting you're speculating.
	Well, I can say that Chertoff is connected.
	That came out last year with the developers and the manufacturers of this technology.
	Therefore, he made a deal he shouldn't have had on behalf of the U.S. government.
	Again, that's not really what I'm here to speak about.
	I can tell you about the fact that these machines are not effective.
	Well, you're on the record, Ginger McCall, with accusing Michael Chertoff of dirty business on behalf of the United States.
	Well, I think that I'd probably not be alone in that, and I think that he himself has admitted that he has ties to these companies.
	You've made a serious charge.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for coming on.
	If it's true, it's a serious charge.
	I don't think it is, but we'll see.
	Thank you, Earl.
	Thank you, Ginger McCall.
	That's a real journalist.
	I don't think it is.
	I don't think it is.
	Yeah, it's a serious charge.
	I don't think it is.
	I don't think it's true.
	But what Epic fails to see...
	Who is he working for?
	Ministry of Truth.
	Unbelievable.
	But what people fail to recognize is that the airport and the TSA is just the tiny tip of the spear.
	Because, you know, what's $2 billion?
	Whatever.
	$170,000 per machine.
	That's what you've got to look at.
	So you've got to sell a lot of machines.
	I mean, this is pure business.
	And you have to keep selling them.
	You just can't sell them to the airports and then close shop.
	Yeah, not just to the government.
	You've got to sell them to sports arenas.
	You've got to sell them to movie theaters, schools.
	You've got to sell them to everyone who...
	That's why the fix is in to keep people from talking about the radiation and if they talk about it, you marginalize it with all this bogus crap that Mickey's got a radioactive butt that's worse than the scanner and all the rest of it.
	I'll walk through that scanner.
	By the way, you're in trouble for saying she has a radioactive butt.
	I'll walk through your scanner if you spoon her butt.
	She's my new free pass.
	She's going to be irked.
	Anyway, there's a lot of research that I've done which you might be interested in.
	It warrants some research about the patents behind the naked body scanner.
	The patent actually was registered by a firm called IRT who went in an astounding bankruptcy case, sold all their assets for $6.8 million in cash, which is pretty much the value of the desks and the computers.
	Including their patents to Thermo Instrument Systems Inc.
	Who, oh, did about $2 billion last year.
	Huh, how does that work?
	And so they own the patents to this.
	And it's a very nefarious, weird company.
	It's a publicly listed company, by the way.
	I'm sorry, $2 billion in the last quarter.
	Not the last year, the last quarter.
	What's the name of this company again?
	Thermo Instrument Systems Inc.
	Thermo or Thermo?
	Thermo.
	Thermo.
	T-H-E-R-M-O. And here's the New York Times report.
	Yeah, so they did revenue...
	Wait, that's the wrong report.
	And now, of course, my Safari browser is frozen.
	There it is.
	What's that?
	NASDAQ? No, I'm looking at the...
	I haven't found the symbol.
	Hold on a second.
	I've got their 10K here.
	SEC.info.
	Their symbol is...
	How come they don't have their symbol here?
	Look it up.
	Thermo Instrument Systems, Inc.
	I have their filing here.
	And...
	They have a ton of subsidiaries.
	I think it's more of a holding company, really.
	And everything else is stowed away in a little...
	I think they're a subsidy of some place.
	Thermo Fisher Scientific.
	Oh, they're part of Fisher.
	That's interesting.
	They must have been bought out recently.
	Yeah, I think they were.
	So, very interesting that the original patent was basically bought out of a bankruptcy...
	And it's so easy to make someone go bankrupt, really.
	Just be a big client and then pull the plug.
	Right.
	Be a big government client.
	For example.
	There was some guy on some talk show recently who was talking about how the government, they signed a contract with the government and they had to pay every 30 days and they decided to all of a sudden not pay and then put it off for six months.
	He says he'll be out of business.
	This just in, John.
	If you eat a Hot Pocket, you get at least five micro-REMS of radioactivity.
	Hot Pockets!
	That's really bad.
	It's actually particularly bad because even the smallest amount of radiation from the inside out, from the inside the protective epidermis, is very...
	You mean the epidermis of the hot pocket?
	A couple of notes from our producers out there.
	Another physician, says Jeff, that I work for, informing his relative at the National Institute of Health I read a memo circulated that states the government is not saving the entire body scans from the airport scanners, just the face portion.
	Makes you wonder about facial recognition technology.
	He swears this guy is not a conspiracy theorist, but was taken aback by this memo.
	So there's clearly stuff that needs to be looked at.
	And of course the...
	Won't they just take a photo?
	Speaking of...
	Let's sneak them through this device and they won't know what we're really up to.
	Speaking of interesting bankruptcies and returning from the dead, the CLEAR program comes back, miraculously, along with IQ. There's money to be made.
	Which is pure money.
	All it is is a separate line.
	It is the first class slave line.
	And you pay $169 a year.
	They have a special on, by the way, $119 if you're at Indianapolis.
	And you still get scanned and groped.
	Well, then what good is it?
	Well, it's a special line.
	It's first class slavery.
	This is good.
	You can be a slave, but you can be a first class slave.
	So that is just wonderful.
	Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.
	I don't think I had anything else.
	I have the clear program, but we don't need to listen to that.
	Oh, well, yeah.
	You know, I hate this topic.
	Yeah, me too.
	Hillary Clinton was all cranky about it.
	But wait a minute, but wait a minute.
	I've got to segue.
	Okay.
	So you were talking about, you know, Freudian slips.
	Yes, yes.
	So I got a Freudian slip in here that I picked up on.
	I listened to this.
	It's one of these things where you take a clip, and this was taken because this was a guy, ex-Congressman douchebag, Duncan Hunter.
	I think Duncan D. Hunter.
	Anyway, they created a special...
	You know, one of these districts out of the blue and he got put into it and he took it over and then he gave it to his son.
	So basically it's an inherited, it's a barony.
	It's like peerage.
	Yeah, it's a peerage job.
	So this guy's now out and his son is in and he doesn't say he's working as a consultant or anything, but he was always the head of the Armed Services Committee when the Republicans were in power.
	And so he's on, I think it's Hannity's show, and he's talking about, oh, you know, we need the scanners.
	He's pro-scanner.
	He's an asshole.
	He's pro-scanner.
	But he drops a little nugget in here that I only picked up on after I took the quote.
	You know, I was actually making my clips.
	I said, wait a minute.
	What is this all about?
	Is this a Freudian slip?
	Is there some information here?
	Do we now have to write it down on our little list and track it?
	Play the Duncan Hunter clip.
	I don't see a Duncan Hunter clip, unfortunately.
	Oh, well, that's my mistake.
	I probably named it something stupid.
	20 days?
	20 days!
	Okay, here we go.
	I believe in justice.
	I believe in our constitution.
	You do have to have a way to detect explosive.
	I mean, that's the key.
	No one's against that.
	You've got to detect enough explosive, the kind of explosive that could rupture the whole of it.
	How about dogs?
	I'm sure there's ways they can do this, but, you know, there's a little bit.
	I think it's done very unprofessionally.
	What we've seen, the horror stories, the bad stuff.
	You've got to remember, while we're sitting here, there's people fighting in Afghanistan right now.
	Some of those young guys in Helmland Province will be dead in 20 days because there's heavy firefights going on.
	We're Americans, and we're asked to endure some inconveniences.
	Wow!
	And this was said when?
	This was said, I think, either last night or the night before.
	It was before the Thanksgiving, or probably Tuesday.
	Wow.
	May have been Wednesday.
	In 20 days, they'll be dead.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	So, let's paint a date on it.
	He dropped a bomb.
	What is this?
	So, that would be around December 15th?
	Now, he's saying this, yeah, just before Christmas.
	Yeah, December 20th, the 20th, the 20th.
	They'll be dead.
	Wow.
	Well, actually, before the 20th, I think, what's the date today?
	But anyway, it's coming up.
	We'll be still doing our show.
	20 days, they'll be dead.
	So, yeah, the 15th.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, the 15th.
	Wow.
	So, in 20 days, they'll be dead.
	You specifically dropped the bomb 20 days.
	Why 20 days?
	Why would you say that out of the blue unless you weren't thinking it?
	Who is he again?
	This is Duncan Hunter, former head of the Armed Services Committee, retired congressman.
	I don't know why.
	He ran for president, supported by Ann Coulter, of all people.
	He must be in a think tank or something.
	That's what I'm guessing.
	He must know something.
	Yeah, and he had this at the top of his head.
	Because you get on these shows, you just babble because you don't have a lot of time.
	Let me wiki this guy.
	So it's...
	Hold on a second.
	I've got to wiki this guy now.
	I wikied him, and he doesn't show what he's doing currently, but I'm sure he's a part of it.
	I mean, these guys never...
	But did you see Jimmy Wales at the top of the page?
	Yeah, there he is again.
	It's fascinating to keep showing up.
	Do you see there's a Chrome extension so you can have Jimmy Wales on every page you visit?
	Yeah, I saw it.
	It's hilarious.
	So, okay, so now we have a note.
	20 days.
	The 15th of December, they'll all be dead.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Yeah, they'll be dead.
	Yeah, that's really nice.
	So some phone is being set up.
	False fly.
	He knows about it.
	He stupidly said the 20 days.
	They may have to abort it now that we're talking about it.
	You know, and whatever the case is, something bull crap is coming out.
	Which brings me around the corner to General Jones.
	Oh, boy.
	The guy who was dismissed.
	Oh, boy.
	Actually, I was looking him up because we had that great quote from last week.
	You might want to play it again if you can find it.
	And Joan, with a question from the audience that was never answered at a spook conference, General Jones was in the National Security Council in the Obama White House.
	Do you remember what that was called again?
	It was called question something.
	Question from audience?
	Yeah.
	Let's listen to it again.
	Thank you.
	Mike Billington from Executive Intelligence Review.
	None of you have mentioned the narco side of narco-terrorism.
	And yet, as I'm sure you know, the Russians have, especially Viktor Ivanov, their drug czar, has declared Afghanistan to be essentially a second British opium war with the massive flow of drugs out of Afghanistan.
	I want you to move to the question.
	Very quick.
	The problem is that the US administration under Obama has basically said we shouldn't take on the drug issue, we want to focus on terrorism.
	General Jones, just two days before he was fired or resigned, gave a very powerful speech in Russia Fully endorsing the Russian call for a global collaborative effort on fighting drugs, fighting international crime, and the sophisticated interface with international business.
	So I'd very much like to hear your comments on that.
	Thank you.
	So before you move on, John, just a second, you said that you'd been watching this conference in the bunker there at the Congress, four levels down, and that everyone was talking about this book, Cutting the Fuse?
	No, I think the book was...
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	Was it Cutting the Fuse?
	I got it right here.
	Because I bought the book.
	Hold on a second.
	Is this the book that was written by?
	Everyone was quoting the book.
	Yeah.
	Everyone was quoting this book.
	And so I bought it.
	Hold on.
	Let me open it.
	I bought it on...
	I think I had it either on iBooks or I had it on Amazon.
	You've got to get both now.
	You've got to get Amazon.
	Is this the Feldman book?
	Because it's the Feldman book they kept talking about.
	Hold on.
	It's whatever you Skyped me.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	It's just a little slow to start up.
	Anyway, so I bought this book, which I'll find the name of in a moment.
	What a piece of crap!
	If this is like the Bible that all these guys are quoting from...
	Yeah, Cutting the Fuse.
	It's an unbelievable piece of crap.
	I mean, the whole thing is like Ministry of Truth.
	Yeah, well, you know, Bin Laden, he did this, he's still alive.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's like everything we hate about all these lies is in this...
	The whole premise of this book is based on...
	Yeah, here it is, Cutting the Fuse.
	The explanation for whatever.
	The explosion of global suicide terrorism and how to stop it.
	Yeah, it's all about suicide terrorism.
	That's what it is.
	I went to the first chapter and then I emailed you.
	What a piece of crap!
	Well, I'm glad I didn't buy it now.
	Thank you very much for helping.
	If this is the Bible for these guys, you will no wonder we're nuts.
	But, yeah, okay, anyway, so General Jones was fired because he said, hey, we're shipping poppies and the banks on Wall Street are making money off of it.
	I'm paraphrasing.
	Yeah, well, actually, let me read a little section here from one of the – there's a bunch of websites to talk.
	People can go out there and look up General Jones fired Afghanistan, and you read stuff like – this is just a typical – one of the typical postings you'll run into.
	Three days before a sudden resignation of NSA, General James Jones was in Sochi, Russia, speaking at an international security conference hosted by his Russian counterpart, Nikolai Petrushev.
	I guess.
	In his remarks, Jones delivered a scathing attack on the nexus of international organized crime, international dope trafficking, international terrorism, and international money laundering.
	It was tantamount to a direct indictment of Britain's Dope, Inc., and was delivered in the context of a call for an alliance with Russia and other participating nations to wipe out the scourge.
	So then he's done.
	He's out.
	Hey, don't you know about me in Arizona, man?
	You don't talk that way in public, man.
	First rule about fight club is you don't talk about it.
	You're out.
	And so now the question remains, when you start reading this stuff, a lot of it, by the way, comes from Lyndon LaRouche's crazy crowd.
	Right.
	But that doesn't mean they're wrong.
	Anyway, you start reading between the lines, and it seems as if there is a disconnect between those who believe that England is behind all the drug smuggling out of Afghanistan, because they've always been behind the drug smuggling out of Afghanistan.
	And they're the ones that are still fighting the Afghanis from 100 years ago.
	And all we're doing is being their proxies.
	We're their stooges, and that's why we're in Afghanistan.
	And Dope Inc., this thing out of the UK, is behind the whole thing.
	So we're actually the lapdog of Gitmo Nation East, according to the one theory.
	The other theory, which is the one that we push, which is the, not to use the word push in that regard, but the we push, which is the CIA is really the big drug smuggler, which there's a lot of evidence for that.
	I mean, the San Jose Mercury guys, the Iran-Contra era, the cocaine connections and all the rest of it.
	And it's got nothing to do with England.
	But this new theory, This thought is kind of interesting because you can see it from a historical perspective that, yeah, the Brits were always, you know, they have still been fighting this Afghanistan thing since they, you know, forever.
	They're still irked about the fact that when they were a great power, they couldn't do anything in Afghanistan as neither could the Russians.
	And the Russians, of course, are, you know...
	They're smart.
	They're also irked about the Afghanistan thing.
	I mean, Afghanistan is the nexus of a lot of irkdom.
	Well, there's a very interesting article that came out earlier this week from The Guardian, the communist rag.
	Heroin shortage in UK is putting lives at risk.
	Hospitals are treating a growing number, and this is great reporting by the way, hospitals are treating a growing number, growing from what, of drug users who have overdosed on heroin mixed with other substances by dealers because of a huge shortage of the opiate across the UK. This is like, whew, one of the most severe heroin droughts for five years has been reported in eras across the UK, including London, Lancashire, Surrey, And Stockton on Tees, which apparently is where all the heroin addicts hang out.
	The shortage has been linked not to seizures of the drug by law enforcement agencies, but to a fungus that has blighted this year's poppy crop in Afghanistan, reducing it by half.
	So not only are these guys bringing it in...
	They can't even keep their crops right.
	They've got to call Monsanto and get some...
	Monsanto's got to come up with some hot poppies after they do the trick.
	Ooh, that's it.
	Hot poppies.
	Yeah, we need that.
	Hot poppies.
	That's our new snack.
	It's a tasty snack.
	Available all across Gitmo Nation Leprechaun.
	Hot poppies.
	Have them kids are good for ya.
	Oh, man.
	And then there's this other story I found.
	Has Ivanov's pressure on the U.S. finally produced results?
	And this is a very long article.
	But apparently at a joint Russian-U.S. press conference in Moscow, Viktor Ivanov, head of Russia's Federal Anti-Narcotics Committee, announced that over 932 kilos, almost a ton of heroin, had been seized.
	The Russian news agency Novosti reported this.
	More importantly, three heroin labs and one morphine lab, all produced for a long-established drug trafficking route into Pakistan, worth an estimated $1 billion of the drug trade, was also seized.
	You know, I think the CIA is going to get pissed off at these guys.
	They've got to stop doing that.
	It's like our stuff.
	Hey, man, get off our stuff.
	Well, something's up.
	Sure.
	This whole thing is depressing.
	I mean, nobody wants to talk about it.
	Obama's in on the scam.
	Or just out of the loop, which is probably more likely.
	Yeah, I think it's probably worse.
	I think you're right.
	That's why he's always out of the country.
	In fact, he commented on the TSA. I didn't know.
	I wasn't there.
	I wasn't there.
	He's commenting on the TSA thing from Lisbon.
	He's in Portugal.
	I didn't know.
	How could I know I wasn't there?
	I wasn't there.
	I don't know what the pat-down's like.
	I wasn't there.
	I'm sorry, man.
	I'm the president.
	I get to travel on my plane.
	He said something similar to that, actually.
	I'm the president, man.
	I don't know what the pat-down's like.
	He's going to put more miles on that plane than any president, probably any two presidents in history.
	Let's be honest, John.
	If you and I were president and first lady, We'd be in that chopper every day.
	We'd be like, hey, John!
	Well, no.
	If we knew what we talk about on this show to be true, we'd definitely be out of the country.
	I'd be on that chopper off the Air Force One.
	There's probably two or three rifles targeting the president at any given time if he makes a false move.
	So get the hell out.
	I don't blame him.
	Oh, my goodness.
	That's great.
	You want to talk about Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe for a moment?
	Because there's a lot of interesting stuff coming down.
	The wheels seem to be kind of coming off the puppy.
	Have you been following this?
	Oh yeah, we're waiting for the collapse.
	Yeah, we kind of are.
	So Ireland, after we had the audio of the Minister of European Parliament, oh, we don't need a bailout.
	Oh, let's have a bailout.
	By the way, the bailout, which of course, austerity, and this is from the IMF, which is like some magical force that comes from the moon or something.
	No, it's bankers.
	It's bankers and other countries who are the IMF, the International Monetary Fund.
	But no one ever really talks.
	Oh, the IMF. Oh, of course, the IMF. It's like the saviors, you know.
	Hey, John, if you can't pay your mortgage, call the IMF. It's all taken care of.
	Of course, these are the two economic hitmen, and they go in and they announce austerity measures.
	The minimum wage, I'll just mention one.
	The minimum wage is dropping by a full euro.
	In Ireland?
	In Ireland.
	A full euro.
	And the minimum wage is only like seven euros and some change.
	You know, that's like huge, man.
	That's like 15, 16 percent.
	Goodbye.
	Ah!
	I didn't put two and two together right away, but I'm coming to this conclusion.
	If we use the economic hitman as kind of an example, Ireland is a tax haven for American corporations.
	There's a flat rate, 12% income tax for corporate income tax, as opposed to ours.
	Which is 33-35%, something like that.
	It's really high.
	We're the highest in the world.
	Generally speaking, in every aspect of taxation, no matter what anyone would like you to believe, we're the highest in the world.
	And so the way to get these American companies to get back here is to screw the Irish because, first of all, the Irish set up this 12% debt.
	It's in the plan.
	Corporate tax rates have to rise.
	It's in the plan.
	What are these Irish trying to do to us?
	They're screwing us.
	Microsoft, Dell, HP is in Ireland.
	They're all over there scamming the U.S. government out of the much needed tax money.
	Let's just be careful.
	The Gitmo Nation leprechaun slaves are of course our friends.
	They've been screwed for a long, long time.
	Yeah, but the point is now that they've pulled that stunt, it's like, okay, let's put them high on the list for making them stop doing that.
	Let's listen to an all-time favorite of the No Agenda show from the UK Independent Party in the European Parliament.
	The Tower of Babel is speaking in front of Starfleet Command.
	We have Nigel Farage addressing Herr Präsident Haiku Hermann von Rompuy.
	In case you are listening from the United States of Europe, you have a president.
	You didn't elect him, but he is the president of the United States of Europe.
	And here is Nigel Farage speaking with him.
	With some fine European music.
	Mr.
	Co-President Nigel Farage.
	Freedom and democracy.
	Well, good morning, Mr.
	Van Rompuy.
	You've been in office for one year.
	And in that time, the whole edifice is beginning to crumble.
	There's chaos.
	The money's running out.
	I should thank you.
	You should perhaps be the pin-up boy of the Eurosceptic movement.
	But just look around this chamber this morning.
	Just look at these faces.
	Look at the fear.
	Look at the anger.
	Poor old Barroso here looks like he's seen a ghost.
	You know, they're beginning to understand that the game is up.
	And yet in their desperation to preserve their dream, they want to remove any remaining traces of democracy from the system.
	And it's pretty clear that none of you have learnt anything.
	You know, when you yourself, Mr Van Rompuy, say that the Euro has brought us stability, I suppose I could applaud you for having a sense of humour, but isn't this really just the bunker mentality?
	You know, your fanaticism is out in the open.
	You talked about the fact that it was a lie to believe that the nation-state could exist in a 21st century globalized world.
	Well, that may be true in the case of Belgium, who haven't had a government for six months, but for the rest of us.
	Right across every member state in this union, and perhaps this is why we see the fear in the faces, increasingly people are saying, we don't want that flag, we don't want the anthem, we don't want this political class, we want the whole thing consigned to the dustbin of history.
	And we had the Greek tragedy earlier on this year, and now we have the situation in Ireland.
	Now I know...
	That the stupidity and greed of Irish politicians has a lot to do with this.
	They should never, ever have joined the Euro.
	They suffered with low interest rates, a false boom and a massive bust.
	But look at your response to them.
	What they're being told, as their government's collapsing, is that it would be inappropriate For them to have a general election.
	In fact, Commissioner Wren here said they had to agree their budget first before they'd be allowed to have a general election.
	Just who the hell do you think you people are?
	You are very, very dangerous people indeed.
	Your obsession with creating this euro state means that you're happy to destroy democracy.
	You appear to be happy for millions and millions of people to be unemployed and to be poor.
	Untold millions must suffer so that your Euro dream can continue.
	Well, it won't work.
	Because it's Portugal next.
	With their debt levels of 325% of GDP, they're the next ones on the list.
	And after that, I suspect it'll be Spain.
	And the bailout for Spain would be seven times the size of Ireland.
	And at that moment, all of the bailout money has gone.
	There won't be any more.
	But it's even more serious than economics.
	Because if you rob people of their identity, if you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence.
	I can only hope and pray that the Euro project is destroyed by the markets before that really happens.
	I just love Nigel Farage.
	I just love...
	Well, I think we should have a Deadpool on him.
	No, no, no.
	You know what?
	I disagree because they need guys like this to vilify.
	In fact, this exact same thing happened, and I have some audio of this.
	So we've got Schultz there from Gitmo Nation Deutschland.
	And unfortunately, you know, the way they do this on these broadcasts is everything has to be in English or in French or some other language.
	They've got live translators.
	So if you listen to the English version, and I actually can understand, Jeremy, when Schultz starts talking, then you're like...
	What we are saying, Mr.
	President, then you get like some boots bag sitting in the, you know, hopefully translating.
	You can't even hear the original audio track.
	And so you don't hear the floor.
	But what happened is, Minister of European Parliament Bloom, who is also from, I believe, the UK Independent Party or the Freedom and Liberty, whatever it is, He stood up and said, one people, one nation, one Fuhrer, or something of that ilk.
	And it set everybody off, and it's really funny to listen to how they deal with this at the Tower of Babel.
	I'll try to continue as best I can.
	So this was after the interruption, which of course we didn't hear because he's speaking in German.
	I've got the English translation.
	It's horrible.
	Despite the interruptions, as Mr.
	Schechter can participate.
	Yes, I won't be long, Mr.
	President.
	Please, I don't have very much speaking time, but I just have one more point to make.
	I don't know if people heard that.
	A nation, an empire, a fuhrer.
	That's what that man over there said.
	A nation, an empire, a fuhrer is what he said.
	He was yelling it from up in Starfleet Command there.
	And this starts off a fracas, which is really amazing to watch.
	Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer were his exact words.
	Mr.
	Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, I won't be long.
	When a man like that traipses through this chamber chanting...
	Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer.
	There were people in Germany who said that, and I fight that spirit.
	Really?
	Do you remember that, John?
	Were there people in Germany who ever said that?
	Well, I think in the 30s.
	Everything I do, but I'm not sure he does.
	President, I cannot.
	Okay, so now we have...
	Wait, let's stop a second.
	I'm getting confused.
	Okay, I... All right.
	Wait, I just want you to...
	I want to get the players straight.
	Now, who is the guy who said Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer?
	That was Godfrey Bloom of the...
	From where?
	From the UK. Europe of Freedom and Democracy group, and he's a member of...
	What was he doing there?
	He's a member of European Parliament.
	He sits right behind Nigel Farage.
	Okay, and he said that, and then who was his last guy that was being translated?
	Okay, so Schultz was speaking.
	He's the co-president of the socialist group.
	He's from Germany.
	And while he was speaking, Godfrey Bloom says, Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer.
	He yells that, which of course we didn't catch on audio.
	So then Schultz is like, dude.
	Right in the middle of Sergeant Schultz's speech?
	Sergeant Schultz.
	So Sergeant Schultz is talking and then Godfrey Bloom goes, Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer!
	Which is reminiscent of the Nazis, of course.
	And then we get everybody's all abuzz.
	Now I think Jerzy Buzek, who was the president of the European Parliament, the French guy gets up and says, hold on a second, hold on, we've got to do something here.
	Accept what you have just said, sir.
	We are in a democracy, this is a democratic era, and I would ask you to apologize.
	I would ask you to make an official apology.
	Otherwise, we are going to lodge a complaint.
	No, no, no.
	It's all right.
	Hold on.
	I'm always surprised you didn't add, and we'll add concentration camps to the equation.
	A king, a folk, a warrior and a concentration camp.
	Settle the problem that way.
	Dear colleagues, we must go ahead.
	Moment, moment, moment.
	I will take it into account.
	I will take it into account.
	We have ways of making him talk.
	Do not worry.
	Take it into account.
	I will read you.
	I will take it into account.
	The President...
	...shall call to order any member who disrupts the smooth conduct of the proceedings or whose conduct fails to comply with the relevant provisions of Rule 9.
	Ah, they have a rule book.
	They pulled out the rule book, John.
	Rule 9.
	Rule 9, provision 152.
	And 9 means no in German.
	I ask you, colleague, to apologize.
	You have to apologize to your mother!
	This is exactly what this sounds like.
	You insulted your mother, and I want you to apologize to her right now.
	Whether you mean it or not, I want you to apologize right now.
	The whole thing is about an apology.
	So it's not about what he said anymore, because, of course, he's probably right.
	The whole thing is about you have to apologize.
	It's right here in the rule book.
	It says you must apologize.
	It's the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard.
	It's December.
	News expressed by Herr Schultz.
	Meet the case.
	So that's Bloom again.
	He stands up and he says, no, the guy, what he said is exactly what I meant.
	Expressed by Herr Schultz.
	Meet the case.
	He is an undemocratic fascist.
	What kind of an apology is this?
	Well, listen, exactly.
	Here comes the answer to that.
	Well, colleagues, we expected something quite different.
	That was not the apology we expected from you.
	Because we wouldn't like our discussion to be disturbed in such a way.
	So I will call you, colleague, to the meeting with me and we must take decision for the next steps.
	Right.
	So now they have to go in a closed-door meeting.
	So they break, everyone goes away, and they come back.
	Punishment.
	No, we have to come back now and continue this.
	So they actually close the session right there?
	Yeah, we have to.
	They whip him to the back room and beat him with a tire iron?
	Not hard enough.
	Thank you.
	The incident referred to...
	Wait, wait, wait, stop.
	This is the...
	Now we're back in the afternoon and Nigel Farage has given the floor to speak about the incident.
	...cassion to be disturbed in such a way.
	Hold on, I rewind a little too far.
	So I will call you, colleague, to the meeting with me and we must take decision...
	I must take your pants down and spank you bristle-side down.
	The incident referred to...
	Was a protest by Mr.
	Bloom in which he made wartime allusions of Mr.
	Schultz.
	And the President said this was unacceptable and invited Mr.
	Bloom to apologize.
	Got it.
	Check.
	Mr.
	Bloom did not apologize.
	No!
	Then, and I call on him now to do so.
	And if he does not do so, he must leave the chamber.
	Mr.
	Bloom...
	I'm sorry, that's not Nigel Farage, my mistake.
	That is Edward McMillan.
	He's the Scottish member of European Parliament.
	And so he says, you know, we had a little talk.
	We said, yo, dude, you got to apologize.
	Why is he now the spokesman for the whole thing?
	He's the vice president of...
	Oh, okay.
	Go on.
	There's a whole bunch of guys.
	You've got to keep track of him.
	It's hard to follow.
	I know, but he's the vice president of Starfleet Command.
	So I think Bloom gets up again now.
	Apparently, they love what he just said, Mr. McIntyre.
	McMahon.
	All right, Bloomy!
	Yet again, yet again, there is one rule for Herr Schultz and one rule for everybody else.
	This is a disgrace.
	I have been elected, re-elected, to vote in this chamber by the people of Yorkshire, your own constituency, I might add, with a democratic mandate, which you do not enjoy, Mr President, yourself, because you switched parties and they voted for the Conservatives.
	I have no intention of apologising.
	I have no intention of leaving this chamber.
	Yes!
	You shall have me escorted out!
	I will not have it!
	It's like Congress during the Civil War.
	It's heating up!
	Alright, now what to do?
	What do we have to do now?
	Group leader of this group.
	So now, they say, alright, one statement can be made by Nigel Farage, who of course is the guy with the clear thinking, and he lays it down.
	He lays it down correctly.
	Mr.
	President, the reason for the anger and the noise is because we're not actually applying the rules of this place evenly.
	Mr.
	Schultz has repeatedly thrown insults, not just at me, but at many members of this House.
	He said that the Eurosceptics, the no-voters, opened the door to fascism.
	We've had Danny Cohn-Bendit calling us mentally ill.
	Can we, Mr.
	President?
	If the rules are that something is deemed to be an insult, a member is asked to leave, that's fair enough.
	But the anger, and I share that anger, is these rules are not applied evenly.
	Mr.
	Schultz regularly calls other people fascists, and when he's called one, the member in question is asked to leave.
	That isn't right.
	That isn't fair.
	Anyway, so then it goes on and on and on.
	And then they actually hold a vote.
	Who thinks he should be thrown out?
	They hold a vote.
	Show me your hands.
	And that drags on forever.
	It's like, well, it's pretty clear.
	Everyone wants you out, dude.
	They threw him out?
	well Farragh, I don't want to prolong this, I don't want to prolong this, but can I just make the observation that this is incorrect.
	What Mr.
	Bloom said in two interventions, one from the floor and one from his place, both were heard by many people.
	And both are unacceptable in parliamentary terms.
	The House wants Mr.
	Bloom to leave.
	That's its expression.
	If he does not do so, people will infer from that his attitude towards the democratic process.
	Mr.
	Bloom, I'm going to invoke Rule 152.
	Well, invoking Rule 152...
	If you will not leave, I'll have you removed.
	I've discussed this with the President, and I have his support for this.
	So anyway, he gets tossed out.
	A guy comes down who has like a coat and tails on and he has a chain, very much like a mayor's chain, like you'd see in like Disney cartoons.
	And he apparently is some official of the European Parliament and escorts him out.
	He's out of here, out of the game.
	So anyway, we've got your unelected officials, some elected, but many unelected positions, calling each other fascists, Nazis, and the wheels are coming off the wagon, my friends, in Gitmo Nation, Europe.
	And you should be aware.
	Somehow I don't think this made the news in most of the countries around the EU. Meanwhile, in the...
	And why should it?
	Right.
	Meanwhile, we have Jose Manuel Barroso, who was cheered in the European Parliament, I don't have the audio of that, on Tuesday, when he outlined plans to publish an official proposal on EU self-funding.
	Before the end of June 2011.
	Do you know what that means?
	EU self-funding, John?
	Well, I would think it's just a euphemism for taxing all the member nations.
	Exactly.
	A European tax, which is one of the things that everyone was guaranteed would not happen.
	So we're going to tax you.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	They were guaranteed it wouldn't happen?
	Yeah, everyone.
	Everyone got a guarantee.
	They were guaranteed?
	Well, then why is it happening?
	It doesn't make sense.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Meanwhile, as we move over to Gitmo Nation, rancid meatballs...
	Which is, as our producer who sent me this article self-titles his own country of Sweden, it looks like there's a proposal on the table, very good chance of passing, of changing the Swedish constitution to reflect the Lisbon Treaty.
	Oh, those crazy Swedes.
	Here, the Riksdag, which is their parliament, they shall vote about the prime minister after every election, so that's a kind of standard possibility to proclaim extra election, okay.
	The fraction of all, the Swedish membership with the EU becomes part of the constitution.
	There you go.
	They're going to change their constitution, everybody.
	It's going to happen here too.
	Don't kid yourself.
	One of the guys behind it, but actually let's get to our, thank some of our listeners before I go into my rant about this crap.
	We had some support and I'm very happy for it.
	Thankful for it, I think, is actually what I wanted to say.
	It is Thanksgiving and we thank everyone for supporting us.
	I think you have a little theme that we play before we do this.
	I have a theme.
	Indeed I do.
	I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda In the morning And that, of course, is a tribute to the Apple Beatles collection.
	Have you purchased them on iTunes?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	You know the reason I purchased them?
	Because I haven't heard enough Beatles songs in my life.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Adam Kolb.
	Menasha, Wisconsin.
	$125.
	It's a value for value.
	The show keeps my wife and I entertained and informed.
	I also want to wish my son Evan a happy first.
	We'll put him on the list for birthday call-outs in a second.
	He's actually not on the list.
	Let me add him to the list.
	Yes, I noticed.
	Okay, I'm putting that to his...
	Evan...
	Okay, go ahead.
	And now we have like one, two, three, four call-outs, which will be Adam doing his transmission of niner, niner, niner, niner.
	These are people that gave $99.99, and here they go.
	I'm going to do them in order, and then I'll read some of their messages.
	So when do I do my niner, niner, niner?
	I'll give the name of the person and where they're from, and then you do the Niner Niner, and then re-mention their name, in this case, Corey Wadlow.
	Niner Niner Niner Niner, Corey Wadlow, LLC. Well, I was going to mention where they're from first, but he's in North Tustin.
	Christopher Pusateri, I guess, Pusateri, or Pusateri, depending on if you have an Italian pronunciation or not, in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania.
	Niner, niner, niner, niner for Christopher Pusateri of Pusateri.
	This is the dumbest thing we've ever done, by the way.
	Stephen Shirk in Menashe, Wisconsin.
	Niner, niner, niner, niner, Stephen Shirk.
	And John Harrison, finally.
	Last but not least, Pinehurst, North Carolina.
	Niner, niner, niner, niner.
	John Harrison.
	I love the little Adam head next to these on the spreadsheet.
	Good work, Eric.
	I like it.
	Thank you.
	It's kind of scary.
	So Adam, I'm sorry, Corey says he really enjoyed Sunday's show.
	I guess last Sunday, one of the better ones in his opinion.
	Top of the monthly $33 a month boarding pass subscription.
	Sending this niner, niner, niner your way for fantastic research presented about Clinton's foundation.
	By the way, I have to say, I just don't want to interrupt these thank yous, but Clinton obviously has filed everything now, so everything's clean, right?
	Oh yeah, everything's clean.
	In fact, it's so clean that the Gitmo Nation, Great White North, has now approved the Clinton Foundation for tax money from Canada.
	Oh, great.
	We can soak the Canadians and Clinton gets the money.
	You can't ask more than that.
	All you have to do is just send them your cash.
	Right now, all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, we just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Ah, screw that.
	Just send your cash.
	Anyway, he wants to thank us for helping him in his social circles because essentially our talking points we do on the show, we will be sending out talking points in the email shortly.
	Christopher Pusateri, hey John and Adam, trying to decrease the douchebag ratio of the show.
	Thank you.
	And he wants to show us thanks for such a great show.
	By the way, this is probably the best podcast in the world.
	Please use my first name only.
	Well, we didn't do that, did we?
	Of course, I couldn't pronounce his last name, so who cares?
	Every week this happens.
	I hope this isn't a honeypot so they know where to come and show me.
	Don't worry about it.
	I was hoping to get some karma.
	Yeah, we got a little bit of that for you, buddy.
	No problem.
	You've got karma.
	And he plans on starting a $5 a month thing.
	And then finally, of course, John Harrison just says we do a great show and wants to thank us, and that's why he did the Niner thing.
	We also have on the list a new donor, Roman Ad...
	Andrusco.
	I think it's Andrusco.
	Andrusco.
	Andrusco, I think.
	Oh, no, it's okay.
	Andrusco.
	Yep, you're right.
	I think it's Andrusco.
	Bradford, Ontario, 66.66.
	It's a good one.
	Trey Small, Huntersville, North Carolina, $58.
	Jeffrey Walzo, Nealberg, Saskatchewan, one of the really great provinces in the world, 55.19.
	Add my name of list of producers who have not received their original challenge coins that we're going to...
	Hopefully resolve that within the next seven days.
	Jerome Darden, Altus, Oklahoma, 5510, double nickels on the dime.
	He needs karma because he's got a new contract at work.
	You've got karma.
	Keep up the great work.
	Donors, not boners, he says.
	I don't know what that means.
	Christopher Advent, Winnipeg, Manitoba.
	Hello, Manitoba.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Another donation to hold us from Karma for a job interview today.
	You've got Karma.
	Jeez.
	And here's a toughie.
	Let's see.
	Ite...
	Seskeli.
	Seskeli?
	Seskeli, probably.
	Zakeli.
	Ite Zakeli.
	Anyway, he's in Tustin, California.
	There's an artist down there named Dustin.
	Hello, guys.
	Here's my first donation.
	I've recently come aboard and don't want to become a douchebag.
	Hopefully there'll be more.
	That's if our overlord's here at Israel.
	Oh, he's in Tucson, California.
	Israel, it says.
	That makes no sense.
	No.
	He's in Israel.
	I know we have a special relationship, but it's not quite that special.
	Yeah.
	We have not merged that well.
	He's in Israel, and that's that.
	And then Rabbi Bob, in the morning, John and Adam, last year I donated an MP3 player full of No Agenda shows to my brother for his birthday, and he's been a contributing producer ever since, including donating to No Agenda for his birthday.
	This year I'd like to wish him a birthday.
	We've got that lined up.
	And send him a little karma, also box he uses.
	That's not lined up either.
	Oh, we got another one missing.
	Hold on, so it's Rabbi...
	Oh, man.
	So this would be Andrew Bean.
	To Andrew Bean?
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	Boxy users can check out the alpha version of the No Agenda Boxy app.
	Hey, we got an app.
	I love that.
	I got to put that in the show notes.
	Yeah, at RabbiBob.com, R-A-B-B-I-B-O-B.com, slash A, slash Boxy.
	B-O-X-E-E. Right.
	Cool.
	Double nickels on the dime from Patrick Kading, San Francisco.
	In the morning, you both thought you guys might be interested in this documentary that was released, and we'll put this on the show notes.
	It's too long to read.
	He is also...
	It deconstructs the security theater thing.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'll put that in the show notes.
	Something we'll definitely look at.
	Yeah, I'll put it in the show notes for sure.
	Double nickels on the dime from Okuntu Woodworking in St.
	Catharines, Ontario.
	A long note...
	You might want to look that over.
	Well, just like others send you money that would have been spent on their ex-girlfriends, I'm now sending you money from the company that I'm in the process of shutting down.
	There you go.
	I wish this was leftover money.
	But I'd rather give it to you before the taxman takes it all.
	Wow.
	The company was a good old-school kind of business making wooden toy building blocks in an honest, hard-working kind of way.
	It's not a growth business, my friend.
	Honest wooden toys.
	Yeah, well...
	No agenda provided me with countless hours of entertainment during the long and mundane hours of my work at...
	What is it?
	Okunto.com.
	U-K-O-O-N-T-O dot com.
	Not to mention an awakening of some sort.
	Would you mind plugging U-K-O-N-T-O dot com?
	I'm selling off the last sets of building blocks right now.
	That's sad.
	That's sad.
	But this is happening all over the place, unfortunately.
	Yeah.
	We wish you some good karma, everyone else who's working there.
	U-K-O-N-T-O woodworking.
	U-K-O-N-T-O. U-K-O-O-N-T-O dot com.
	Steve Bottoms, Reno 5150 from Chile, Icy Reno.
	Ara Dadarian, birthday call out there coming up.
	Trabuco Canyon, another $50 one-time donation.
	And John Lake...
	Sacramento Knighthood coming up.
	Alan Martin, another $50.
	It's time for Turkey Day, sending best wishes to us.
	Also, thank you, Carmen, for his brother's CD, Physical Jazz.
	We have a link here that we'll put on the show notes.
	Arthur Kessler, another Knighthood layaway in Calgary, and that's it for this week.
	It's your birthday, birthday on No Agenda.
	Aaron Darian says happy birthday to daughter Grace who turns 14 tomorrow.
	Evan Colby, Colb, says happy first, gets a happy first birthday from Papa and Mama Colb.
	And Rabbi Bob says happy birthday to Andrew Bean and of course happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda show.
	It's your birthday, yeah.
	And I think it's actually time perhaps for a new credit, John.
	Well, before we do that, I want to mention everybody to help us out here, to keep the show going, to keep this information.
	The best podcast in the world alive, you want to go to dvorak.org slash NA and contribute.
	Also, you can contribute at channeldvorak.com slash NA. If you can't get there, apparently in Korea, you can't get to dvorak.org anymore.
	And for some reason...
	It's okay.
	Pretty soon, there won't be a Korea left.
	Don't worry.
	And then, of course, the NoAgendaShow.com has a link.
	And go to any of those and help us for the next show.
	So I've been watching some TV. They have this other credit, which is a Created By credit, which I think is kind of cool.
	Have you ever seen that credit?
	Yeah, Created By is the person who designed the show.
	Right.
	So if someone donates the exact amount of the episode of the show, shouldn't they just get a Created By credit?
	Created by is a credit for something that exists in the past.
	In other words, the first show.
	Right.
	So that's my point.
	You can't do any more.
	Just work with me, John.
	All right?
	I'm thinking about it.
	I'm just trying to see how we could make it.
	If it's a show created by, maybe.
	But I still think the executive...
	Well, I don't know.
	Where would it show up in the list of credits?
	Would it be below associate?
	Well, typically a created by comes at the end of the show.
	So it would be at the end of the credits, I think.
	So it would be after associate executive producer.
	So if someone donates 256 for a Sunday show, then they get show created by.
	Because you can only do that donation once and have it created by.
	It's a stretch, I know, but I think it's another...
	Well, I'm just wondering, if I was donating 256, would I rather have an executive producer or associate executive producer credit?
	There's nothing precluding you from having both.
	You can have both.
	I'm just wondering if...
	Okay, well, let me...
	It could be an extra bonus.
	It could be an extra bonus.
	Chat room likes it.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, I actually...
	Let's think about it because I like the idea of having an extra title.
	I'm just not...
	I'm not sure it's created by...
	It might be created by a producer or something like that.
	Okay, well...
	All right, so it's Dvorak.org slash NA, ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. We really appreciate it, especially the ever-growing list of $5 a month.
	There's $33.33.
	That is, of course, for the mothership.
	We've got our lucky 30 and, of course, our $1 an hour.
	Go to the donation support giving page at Dvorak.org slash NA. It really keeps us going, keeps us motivated, but keeps the lights on, more importantly.
	We use it to pay bills here, so really appreciate it.
	You know, John, we had a...
	Pretty interesting conversation last week.
	And it was about chemtrailing.
	And there's a documentary which, it took me a while to get around to it, to watch it.
	Two reasons.
	One, apparently it's only available on BitTorrent.
	So first thing, you know, it's one of those things like, I'm screwing with my mail server.
	I don't want to go find a torrent.
	Okay, so I finally download this thing.
	It even started off a little bit like too many...
	It's the kind of thing that would turn you off in a second if you saw the first 20 minutes of it.
	It's about an hour and a half, but then it gets...
	Usually the first five minutes turns me off.
	Yeah, it could.
	It's called What on Earth Are They Spraying?
	I like the double entendre of it.
	Oh, that is good.
	Right.
	But then they actually get into the scientific end of it with former USDA people.
	And there's one disturbing...
	Okay, I can tell you the documentary in a nutshell is we don't know exactly who is spraying us globally, but the belief is that geoengineering is in place and aluminium or aluminum and barium are being but the belief is that geoengineering is in place and aluminium or aluminum and barium are being sprayed into the atmosphere to This is clearly not being done with our consent.
	And the proof that this is happening, and this whole documentary plays out mainly in California, They go to Mount Shasta and they go to different places.
	They measure how much aluminum is in the air.
	Now, the alarm level in the state of California...
	And Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of, is 1,000 parts per million.
	If there is more than 1,000 parts per million in the air in California, then the alarm bell should go off.
	I don't know if you knew that, John.
	I think you were, didn't you test air at one point in your illustrious career?
	I was an air pollution inspector, yes.
	Does that sound about right?
	For the government.
	Does that sound right, about 1,000 parts per million?
	Seems high.
	Well, that's the alarm level.
	So if it's more than 1,000 parts per million, then all alarms should go off.
	The levels measured in California, and I guess I'm going to have to go measure my own air, 63,000 parts per million currently.
	How do you know this?
	Well, this is the testing they show in this documentary.
	So I have not done my own testing or anything like that.
	But they show the test, multiple tests.
	The one that was most interesting was Mount Shasta because the guy was also looking at the acidity of the soil.
	And to add on to that, which I thought was very interesting, aluminum, of course, is an accelerant.
	And it can make fires burn quicker, faster, and maybe even hotter.
	In the presence of oxygen, perhaps.
	Yes, of course.
	But it is interesting to point out that the wildfires over the past few years have consistently gotten worse and harder to combat because everything just fires up so quickly because of the aluminum that settles on the trees.
	Nah.
	Nah?
	Okay.
	Nah, the parts for millions is incidental to that.
	No way.
	But 63,000 parts for millions.
	But in terms of you breathing it, I don't care, but the fire thing is bogus.
	I think, though, the possibility of you inhaling...
	That level of aluminum constantly and then also using aluminum cookware possibly has health effects.
	Dangerous to your health.
	So, the conclusion, and they do go around the globe on this, the conclusion is that someone is spraying, and it appears to be aluminum, and the belief is amongst the chemtrailers, which of course we might want to change the name now just to make it a little more acceptable because chemtrail sounds like, you know, just wacky kooky.
	It's kooky.
	Yeah, it's kooky.
	Is that the atmosphere is being geoengineered for our convenience, and of course when we find out, or maybe it'll come into play, it'll be like under the biodiversity, they'll say, you know what, we're just doing it all for you, and we're just trying to protect you, and don't worry about it.
	Of course, they're actually killing us.
	I did do some research on C-SPAN, so that you don't have to.
	I picked up a clip from John Holdren.
	Who, of course, is the shill brought in to the Obama administration.
	And what he says is concerning at best.
	Reduce emissions and build up soil carbon.
	And there are some things we might decide to do, still quite controversial.
	One would be geoengineering to create cooling effects offsetting greenhouse.
	Right.
	Geoengineering.
	We just might decide to do that.
	Every time I hear this, I shudder.
	You cringe, right?
	Yeah, we just might decide to do that.
	And we just might not tell you about it.
	Shut up, slave.
	What are you questioning?
	I'm telling you, they're out to make a global cooling scenario to kill people.
	You're worse than I am.
	I've always felt this.
	Roll that by me again.
	I like that.
	The idea is to create a false panic over global warming.
	We already saw the global cooling panic in the 70s.
	That ended because it wasn't getting any traction.
	Or maybe it was the facts because there are still some people that say that's happening.
	Because we have these ice ages.
	That's what the globe does.
	And if we can initiate a new ice age, it's going to kill off a lot of people.
	And that'll get the population down by these population control guys.
	And so throwing a bunch of crap in the air is one damn good way of starting it.
	To cool everything down, yeah.
	Just get the ice age started again.
	It'll come down, wipe out the British, by the way, and get rid of carriage.
	And it'll take care of a lot of the population issues that we have.
	It'll freeze people to death.
	Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency Saturday for San Bernardino County, where the water supply for the city of Barstow...
	Was found to be contaminated with...
	Prochlorate.
	Barstow.
	Barstow.
	Interesting.
	Well, there's another article somebody sent in about citizen concern lingers over aluminum and water.
	Well, of course.
	Yeah, it drops.
	Yeah.
	Well, what happens is the hikers, of course, drink the snow water.
	I mean, this Mount Shasta is snow, right?
	And people drink that water that comes.
	It's supposed to be clean, clear water, and it's filled with aluminum.
	But these levels are outrageously concerning.
	How do I test for aluminum?
	Can I get a 101 science kit test from the toy store and test aluminum in my air?
	In the olden days you probably could, but nowadays you'd have to first look up the tests.
	There's always a variety of tests that would do this.
	It's a parts per million test, so it would take some skills, literally, to be able to do it with accuracy.
	You'd need a bunch of gear that you don't have.
	You forget.
	Forget it.
	You're not going to be able to do it.
	You're going to have to take a sample to a lab and tell them what you want.
	Actually, I would do two labs because I don't know how many of these labs are that great.
	When I was a chemist at Union Oil, there used to be a competition.
	In fact, I think all labs do this.
	There was about five or six of these competitions a year, but the one that I took part in was how much lead is in the gasoline test.
	And there'd be a common sample in every oil refinery.
	Standard Oil, Chevron, Shell is over there in Martinez and there's a bunch of these places.
	I guess Shell's across the water, whatever.
	There's about eight refineries in the area.
	And we'd all test the same exact gasoline sample and all eight labs would have a different answer.
	Science!
	Science is in.
	Science, I tell you.
	But I think if people are measuring 63,000 parts per million, it can vary a little bit.
	But if you yourself said more than 1,000 parts per million seems high, what this does, aluminum, is it actually, this is why it's in some vaccines, it activates your own immune system.
	It's like an adjuvant.
	Yes, it is.
	Barium is used for the same reason.
	Now, you can get baritosis.
	But essentially, this all affects your respiratory system.
	And I don't really know if I'm just...
	I'm sure my smoking is probably the main reason for my respiratory congestion.
	But I'm seeing this.
	I'm hearing coughing and wheezing.
	Of course, we have a whooping cough epidemic.
	So it may not be that it's used expressly to kill us.
	But it's not good for us.
	And something is happening.
	We're not being told about it.
	There's a great iPhone app, by the way.
	Which is the Plane Finder iPhone app.
	I don't think it's available yet on Android.
	And it uses the new, I want to say, ABD system.
	I think it's ABD system.
	So when you point it at a plane in the sky, it immediately gives you, you see the camera, you see the plane, and it immediately gives you all the details.
	The tail number, the speed, the altitude, etc., So if you see something that might look a little weird as a contrail, you can immediately see the altitude.
	So if it's flying at like 10,000 feet, that's not a contrail.
	Because that doesn't happen until above like 25,000, 28,000 feet.
	And you can get the tail number and you can then find out some more.
	You can just Google tail numbers.
	That'd be kind of cool.
	Yeah, so people are doing this.
	Paranoid freaks out there.
	Yeah, you can make light of it, but I'm very concerned about the level of aluminum.
	I would have had the number 63,000 parts per million in my backyard.
	Well, you might.
	You might.
	How do you know you don't?
	I don't know.
	I don't care.
	I'm too old.
	I'm too old to care.
	Well, that's why I'm here, John.
	I still care.
	I'm still young.
	Sarkozy had an interesting moment, which he's denying.
	This is the president of Gitmo Nation's Stinky Cheese.
	There was an informal press briefing and he was outraged by more questions about the bribery and the campaigns.
	Remember that was going on a while ago?
	Yeah.
	So he says to the journalist, and he's denying this, by the way, and all tapes had to be wiped and everyone was being locked down.
	He said this in French, I presume.
	Not a single one of you believes that I organize kickbacks for submarines in Pakistan.
	It's incredible, and still it gets on television, he declared in a 10-minute outburst at Friday's briefing.
	And then turning to a journalist, he said...
	You!
	I've got nothing against you.
	Apparently you're a pedophile.
	Who told me?
	Well, I'm convinced.
	Can you explain yourself?
	And then as he left...
	Is this guy sitting in the audience just some poor guy?
	Journalist, yeah, because the point Sarkozy's trying to make is like, oh, you can just call me whatever I want.
	You're a pedophile.
	And then as he leaves, he says, see you tomorrow, my pedophile friends.
	That's the best thing you can do?
	That's how you combat the press?
	By calling them pedophiles?
	Oh, that's going to go over.
	That is dumb.
	Well, he's denying it, of course.
	The press either saw it or they didn't.
	Yeah, but they're all afraid.
	They've got to get their access.
	They're afraid.
	Well, you know, they should do that to the White House press corps because they're the same kind of wimps.
	They're afraid they're going to have their credentials pulled.
	The briefing was recorded on the internal recording system of the summit according to L'Express magazine, which says that presidential aides insisted the tapes be wiped on the grounds that the briefing was off the record.
	And of course the presidential palace, where all elites live, denies that he made those comments at all.
	But I thought that was spectacular.
	Tom DeLay...
	Convicted of money laundering.
	Could go to jail for life.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, that'll be the day.
	At least they got one.
	How come that's not in the news?
	It is.
	Not a lot.
	Is it?
	No, it wasn't played up very much.
	No.
	Probably in Texas a little bit.
	And then I think, John, we have a situation on our hands, which is a word I was not familiar with.
	Sinoasia.
	Is that how you pronounce it?
	S-I-N-O? Sinoasia?
	Either Sino-Asia.
	Sino-Asia, yeah.
	Well, this is kind of the area that, I guess, when the Korean War broke out before I was born, this is where all the troubles were going on.
	So here's the way I saw recent events.
	Of course, completely obfuscated by the non-opt-out news that, oh, everyone loves the TSA. China and Russia...
	Cut a deal.
	Putin and Ti-Hung-Yong, what's his name?
	I don't know.
	Now, I already mentioned this when they first talked about this energy deal.
	I think it was a couple months ago, actually.
	Maybe almost two months ago.
	Now China and Russia have decided to use their own currencies for bilateral trade.
	Yeah, this got so little play, it's actually kind of astonishing.
	Premier Wen Jiabo.
	They rebuke the U.S. dollar.
	Yeah, well, so here's the way I see it.
	They rebuke the U.S. dollar, which of course is bad for our dollar, for the dollar as the reserve currency of the world.
	And then all of a sudden we've got a kerfuffle between North and South Korea.
	The dollar pops up.
	And why does the dollar pop up?
	Because, hey, if there's some crap going on in Korea, that means Korea will be buying our shit.
	That means our money will be worth something.
	Is that far from possibility there?
	I think, no.
	I think you're kind of going in the right direction, but I don't think that that's going to account for enough to make the dollar go up.
	It did, but it did.
	I saw the jump.
	Yeah, I know, but I think there's more to it because I think you can account for the dollar going up with the Irish situation and the other crap that's going on in the EU. You can make that the reason with more logic, I think, than this Korean...
	Okay, maybe.
	Well, it was South Korea who shot first, by the way.
	Make no mistake.
	This is a whole...
	We're not given the story.
	I've already concluded that we have no idea about any of this.
	This is all government propaganda.
	Well, I do...
	Maybe there wasn't even an explosion for all we know.
	Well, I know who does know, and I'm making a call.
	Oh, okay.
	I know who you're talking about then.
	Yeah, of course.
	Now, I do want to mention...
	Yeah, well, that makes sense.
	Yeah, they probably did something, and the North Koreans said, screw you.
	Screw you.
	Yeah, they flew a bomb over.
	That's interesting.
	Well, that's very interesting, actually.
	Yeah, no, no.
	Because I think it was the show long enough knows who you're talking about.
	Yeah.
	Well, South Korea was doing an exercise.
	Right.
	And the North Korea apparently sent a fax...
	What's this?
	What?
	We're out of paper!
	There's a machine over in the corner.
	What are you doing?
	Our machine ran out of paper.
	Shoot!
	I don't know.
	And then South Korea goes, oh, we're training.
	Don't worry about it.
	Nothing to see here.
	North Korea goes, oh, yeah.
	So, I wanted to talk about a couple of topics before I get into a little...
	Can I just finish this up?
	I just need to...
	This does wind up into two other emails that I received regarding the missile.
	Because, you know, there was speculation.
	Did we shoot something?
	You're talking about the missile off of L.A.? Yeah, which we all know was a real missile.
	It was a missile.
	Yeah, it was a missile.
	Okay.
	So what?
	Yeah.
	All right, well, I just, you know, you're not hearing about this anywhere else on the news, so, you know, I've got some information from our producers, and I just want to share it with you.
	Because, you know, was it a Chinese missile?
	Was it our missile?
	A China?
	Whatever.
	Okay, in the morning, says an anonymous source who will be kept anonymous.
	So I was having dinner last Thursday night with some friends when talking about work.
	The missile launch came up in conversation.
	One of the dinner guests works as an engineer that analyzes large missile trajectories.
	And while this person was very coy and guarded, this much I could gather.
	One, it was not an airplane or any such nonsense.
	Two, it was ours, not the Chinese or Russian.
	Three, it was unplanned.
	Four, it was not launched off of land.
	That was all I could get out of this person.
	It was probably more than he or she could disclose.
	Alcohol was such a great uninhibitor.
	Though I thought I would pass it along.
	Then we have...
	In the morning, Adam and John, I was on active duty in the submarine force.
	Thank you for your service.
	Spent eight years watching missile launches.
	I'm also certified to launch high-powered rockets.
	See, this is the people we need listening to the show.
	We have these people.
	I know.
	We've got nuclear sub-guys.
	We've got guys who are certified to launch high-powered rockets.
	There's a credit that is hard to beat.
	I mean, you know, it's like, hey, what do you do?
	Well, I'm certified to launch high-powered rockets.
	Let me suck you.
	You're awesome.
	This, he says, was clearly a rocket launch.
	I doubt the Chinese missile theory a bit.
	My bet is on a fire control technician's mistake during a routine submarine drill.
	Yeah, that would be two votes for the mistake.
	And this guy is deep on the inside, and he has taken the amazing...
	Although NORAD, of course, is more for aviation.
	He is taking...
	I've given him all the information on the missing navigation page.
	So at first there was a nav warning for ships saying, hey, we're testing missiles over here.
	We could be shooting from submarines.
	Then the missile goes off and that whole page is removed and now has a big Microsoft...
	SharePoint error.
	In fact, the whole week...
	Yeah, SharePoint.
	May have not been removed.
	Yeah, really.
	Vivek Kundra loves SharePoint.
	And then the only other thing I'd like to say is the chat room is adamant about this, and I think it is very important.
	There is a bank run planned on...
	I think it's December...
	December 7th or December 10th?
	Hold on a second.
	Just in time for that 20-day incident.
	Ooh, to cover it up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, actually, it might be on the same day.
	I mean, you have some crazy incident in 20 days, and then to cover it up, you have a bank.
	Or it triggers the bank run.
	Ooh, very good.
	I'm thinking, though, it was December 10th.
	Someone in the chat room will tell me.
	You know, the 20 days thing, we don't know the original.
	That 20 days, he'd be stuck in his head from days earlier.
	December 7th.
	December 7th is the bank run in Gitmo Nation Leprechaun, Gitmo Nation Castanets.
	I think they're trying to build it out all over Gitmo Nation.
	And there's a website, which I believe is bank...
	Bankrun2010.com.
	Let me just double check that.
	See if that is correct.
	You should tell people to get their money out now.
	Don't wait.
	Bankrun2010.
	Yeah, let me grab the English version.
	Yeah, this is an old soccer guy, actually.
	I don't know if he's an old soccer guy.
	But he's spearheading this, which I find fascinating.
	Soccer player.
	Here's December the 7th, 2010.
	Let's withdraw our money.
	Cantona is the guy's name.
	Dear Media, for a short time, the International Repress reported the call for a bank run that we launched on Facebook to invite all those who wish to follow us to withdraw their money from their accounts on the 7th of December, 2010.
	Why have we launched this action?
	Well, to screw the bankers.
	You know, Max Kaiser is doing something interesting.
	Have you followed what he's doing?
	No.
	So, you like Max Keiser, right?
	I don't follow him.
	With varying degrees.
	I don't follow him either, but he wants to bankrupt J.P. Morgan, which I think is funny.
	It's an interesting idea.
	Yeah, well, this is a guy who doesn't know a lot about exchanges and trading.
	He built the Hollywood Exchange, I think, right?
	Which was how you could do...
	Put options on movies and hedge the financing of your movie and he sold it for a lot of money.
	He lives over there in Paris.
	And so he's saying that JP Morgan is selling silver short, billions of dollars worth, silver they don't actually have, so they can't cover the bet.
	And what he's asking is for every slave in Gitmo Nation to buy one ounce of silver, physical silver, which I guess, I don't know how much you'd have to actually have, but that seems like you need a lot.
	It wouldn't work.
	Yeah, well, so he's trying...
	He can't organize anything like that.
	I mean, this is...
	People have tried to do things...
	I mean, when Bunker Hunt tried to corner the market on silver, he was unsuccessful.
	Is that Mike's brother, Bunker?
	Yeah.
	He had more clout than Kaiser.
	So this is just...
	People are just going to put them...
	Who was Bunker Hunt?
	Who was Bunker Hunt?
	Bunker High was H.L. Hunt, who at one point, the world's richest man, one of his dumb sons, who took billions of dollars that the old man had accumulated and squandered it on crazy speculations, including the attempt to, I believe it was in the 70s or the 80s, I think it was in the 70s, to try to corner the market on silver.
	And he was running the price up and you were making a fortune on silver and just because this market is so big it's impossible to either corner or control, it collapsed and it basically broke the guy.
	I will say that I am going to buy silver myself.
	You know, I bought gold at $850 an ounce.
	Some of it wound up in other hands.
	But I still have some.
	So you actually ended up with gold at $400.
	At $1,600 an ounce.
	If you look at it that way, yeah, I'm taking a bath.
	That was a bad investment.
	If you look at it that way.
	But I don't because I have love and a radiating butt.
	So let's just say I bought 850.
	It's ticked up to over 1400.
	It's down around 1330 now.
	And I still predict 1500 by the end of the year.
	But I am now personally going to buy some silver.
	You can get these nice bags for like a thousand bucks.
	You get a big bag of silver coins.
	It's pretty cool.
	It's a nice Christmas present.
	I think the train left the station on silver already.
	What do you mean?
	No, no, no.
	I think it can really, really keep going up.
	It doesn't matter.
	If you're going to invest in something, I would invest in palladium or platinum.
	Screw silver.
	I'm going for silver.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So we have to at least mention before the show's over, and I also want to do a little thing here about Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.
	As we predicted, of course, they're trying to steal it.
	The fake Taliban negotiator, I mean, we have to say something about this guy being with a genius...
	I don't know anything about that.
	Oh, you missed this story.
	It broke like two or three days ago.
	I did.
	In fact, there was a bid on Letterman last night where somebody did this.
	The guy that the U.S. government and Karzai's boys were negotiating with, who was supposedly the Taliban's representative, soaked them for two or three million dollars because he needed the money for one thing or another.
	And he was a Pakistani shopkeeper.
	Wait a minute.
	So a guy shows up and he says, am I here on behalf of the Taliban?
	And I'm here to negotiate with you.
	What were they negotiating for?
	Peace?
	Some sort of true, some peace, some arrangement with the Taliban.
	And they went, yeah, come on, right?
	You look, yeah, great.
	Show me your papers.
	Yeah, he looks right.
	You missed the story because the U.S. media downplayed that crap out of it because it's so humiliating.
	But it was played by the right-wing media and also Letterman was on the gag.
	Wow.
	Had some teenage kid come in claiming to be the head of the Taliban.
	Yeah.
	With a business card.
	Cool.
	So anyway, that story needs to be explored a little bit because it's too funny.
	It shows you how we're not vetting anything.
	Apparently, we don't know what we're doing over there.
	So that's kind of interesting.
	The other thing is that it's interesting to me that Pat Buchanan, the weird conservative, and he's a conservative of his own creation, is now really an MSNBC shill.
	And he's over there as...
	Sorry?
	Guy needs to eat.
	Well, he needs to eat, but the idea is that because Fox is always bringing on these supposed left-wing people like Alan Combs, and they always harp on it, especially O'Reilly.
	We always have balanced people.
	We have left-wingers on our show.
	MSNBC would never do such a thing.
	And so MSNBC knuckled under, and they made Buchanan.
	He's on a lot of stuff.
	But he's essentially over there, and what's weird about it, he's shilling...
	For either Huckabee or Palin to be running for president, play the Buchanan MSNBC shill clip.
	This is when Nixon won in 16.
	I think it's Newt.
	I think Newt's going to try.
	Newt?
	No way.
	Let me say.
	Watch this.
	No way.
	Newt thinks.
	Chris, Chris, 1980, the real, the sensible choice was George H.W. Bush because people wanted to get rid of Carter and he was safe.
	Instead, Republicans went for Newt.
	Now, that's the danger.
	But Reagan was a heavyweight.
	Well, Reagan was also somebody about whom there were enormous questions right to the end of the campaign.
	See, you've got to keep quiet, keep quiet, would you?
	Just for a second.
	Shut up, slave.
	You don't account for people who respond to the heart.
	I mean, don't sit down there.
	Just do not get to the heart.
	Oh, here's the thing.
	No.
	No.
	And people...
	Who else gets to the Republican heart besides Sarah Pelley?
	Huckabee's got a following.
	So you see this is a battle.
	Bob Buchanan, Patrick J. Buchanan, we're on the line here.
	You think this is a battle for the heart of the Republican Party, the conservative movement, and the battle at large here, the big battle...
	I say the big battle is between three.
	I think Romney's the establishment of that.
	How can he appeal to the heart?
	Are you?
	It takes the establishment end of the...
	Okay, you can kill us.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	I can't take it.
	Yeah, it's pretty bad.
	So, I mean, it's the worst thing I've ever seen.
	But anyway, Buchanan is promoting the idea that Huckabee or Palin are the only two people that, you know, and they show up well in the polls or some crap.
	He's trying to validate these two idiots who have no chance in hell of ever beating Obama in a million years.
	Palin is a dummy.
	She gave up on her.
	She couldn't even be governor for four years.
	I don't care what all the Palin fans out there.
	And Huckabee still thinks that, you know, the earth began 6,000 years ago.
	And he's a preacher for a Baptist preacher.
	We don't need that as president.
	So the point is, but the interesting point is that they're starting to slip in, especially on MSNBC, is the equation...
	That Palin is like Reagan.
	She's just like Reagan because he wasn't expected to be the president.
	When the fact of the matter is Ronald Reagan went back, he was a union organizer and a democrat.
	He was an actor!
	And they poisoned him.
	He formed the Screen Actors Guild.
	He's responsible for all sorts of political stuff since the 30s, actor or not.
	He was always politically active.
	He was governor of California two terms, as I recall.
	He was always doing something.
	He was almost going to run for president in 76.
	And he said he was bumped out by his opponents.
	You know what, John?
	You know what this is?
	There's no connection between Palin and Reagan, is my point.
	I have to disagree.
	What?
	You're telling me that a one-half-term Alaskan governor who's dumb...
	I know you're a big fan of hers.
	I knew I'd get into a debate about this.
	...can be equated with essentially a lifetime politician whose job happened to be acting?
	You're saying that's the same?
	I am saying this is a fractal, and the fractal goes as follows.
	Every 30, 40 years or so, we have to change the perception that politics is show business for ugly people, and we have to bring in someone handsome.
	That's the entire extent of the fractal.
	It has nothing to do with the political background or what they've done.
	It's like we've got to get a cute person in there.
	That's what it's about.
	You're a handsome against handsome, then, because Obama's a good-looking guy.
	Right, so there you go.
	It's a megafractal.
	It's called Obama.
	Have you seen everybody else?
	Everybody else is hideous.
	Yes, I know.
	I'm just saying you might be right with your theory about the handsome thing being necessary every so often, but we've got that.
	It's called Obama.
	He's the handsome one.
	Right, right.
	Nothing but handsome.
	Everybody has to be good looking now.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Thank you very much.
	That's the whole point.
	Everyone who's the president has to be good looking.
	It has to be good looking.
	And by the way, Romney's not a bad looking guy.
	He looks like Treat Williams, the actor.
	Well, there you go.
	All you're doing is solidifying my point.
	Whoever it is, whoever it is...
	You're obviously missing my point, which is just to say, the simplicity of it, Palin is not a good candidate.
	Duh!
	Here, here's Barbara Bush on Palin.
	Okay.
	What's your read about Sarah Palin?
	I'm almost done here.
	I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Done.
	End of clip.
	That's it.
	And I think she's very happy in Alaska, and I hope she'll stay there.
	She's beautiful.
	This is the whole point.
	Yeah, okay.
	John, I'm sorry.
	That's fine.
	I'm just saying, if you want to run this woman and if you want to support her, that's great.
	I'm not going to support her.
	I'm not going to support her.
	Don't misread me.
	It's too brutus.
	No way.
	I'm just saying that the only qualification for president of these United States of Gitmo Nation is you are beautiful.
	That's all.
	Done.
	You look good.
	You're not going to look good.
	You're a good-looking black man.
	You're in.
	You're a good-looking lady.
	You're fantastic.
	This is great.
	That's one mother I'd like to find.
	That's all that counts.
	We needed a milk.
	Where did that horn come from?
	I don't know.
	I'm going to change the pace then.
	Every week I like to play a bad acting clip.
	And here's Sarah Palin once again.
	This won't be Palin.
	Again, I've decided to make the bad acting clips all from the same show constantly.
	Because it's the worst show on television, I think.
	The Hawaii Five-0.
	Just play this and tell me what you think of the acting here.
	You got that extra pint of blood pumping through your veins.
	Give me that big boost.
	Is this about the doping?
	No, it's about jacking an arm in car and shooting three people.
	Your fingerprints.
	They're on a blood bag at the doctor's office.
	Look, my girlfriend does housekeeping for that building.
	Dr.
	Kinker travels a lot, so I use the office sometimes to supply doping equipment to the triathletes.
	Help them draw blood!
	You might have found one of my bags, but I don't know anything about it.
	You're going to need a name, guy.
	I mean, before, see what you can remember.
	There's a woman.
	Sabrina something.
	It's local.
	You know, I listen to that and I'm longing for a commercial.
	I need a commercial.
	It's the worst.
	You know, one of our producers recommended to me that I watch The Kill Point, I think is what it's called.
	And I thought it was a movie.
	I don't know that show.
	I thought, yeah, I thought it was a movie.
	Was it a movie?
	No.
	So Mickey ordered it through Netflix.
	And by the way, Disc 1 and I guess Disc 2 is coming after we send back Disc 1.
	Thank you, Netflix.
	Yeah.
	And it turns out it's a TV series that ran on...
	I forget.
	Probably USA Network.
	Yeah, something like The Fuse or something.
	And Donnie Wahlberg stars in it.
	A son of a son.
	Older brother of Mark Wahlberg, of course, of Entourage.
	And Donnie Wahlberg was the lead singer in New Kids on the Block.
	So I know him well.
	And he's gotten a little pudgy.
	And...
	So I'm watching this thing, and by the way, John Leguizamo, he's an amazing actor, and we're watching, and it's like, Mickey, this is a bad television show we're watching.
	And then it ends, and I'm like, oh my god, and then episode two comes on, and three, and we wind up watching four episodes before we finally quit.
	But what was amazing is it was really bad acting, but as we watched, and we probably watched for about two hours, we got sucked in.
	And the bad acting just kind of went away.
	There are some really good actors in it, but the majority is just really, really poorly done.
	But it's interesting because they keep breaking away for commercial, but there's no commercial because it's a DVD and it just goes kind of fades to black and then comes back.
	But very interesting.
	Yeah, but very interesting how this poor acting can still suck you in somehow.
	It's mostly with the visuals and the music.
	That's why you pointed this out originally.
	It is.
	You pull that out.
	You pull the visuals out.
	You can't pull out the music.
	And you just listen to it, and it's terrible.
	Oh yeah, and the visuals are good.
	There's actually some good stuff in that series.
	Some interesting stuff.
	Hey, you know how whenever we...
	Okay, so here's my assertion, which I think you kind of agree with.
	Whenever we're going to go kill some people for oil or something else, we've got to bring in our guy, right?
	To make everyone feel good.
	And that would be either George Clooney or Harrison Ford or someone else.
	Harrison Ford is not doing the job.
	No, he's no Clooney.
	So, we're going to go kill people in Sudan again, because we've got to go get that oil out of there.
	And then we bring in Clooney, goes to the White House, and we set him up, and he's working.
	He's a good guy.
	Because even the elites feel bad.
	I mean, we've got to get this oil out of Sudan, but we've got to kill some people.
	I feel bad about that.
	Yeah, me too.
	Hey, call Clooney.
	Hey, George, how are you doing?
	So, Clooney comes over, and he'll do a benefit or whatever, like we did for Haiti.
	But Russia is now taking a cue.
	And you know who they have?
	The Russian spy girl?
	No!
	Leonardo DiCaprio!
	He's working for the Russians?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, he's half Russian, apparently.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, he had a whole meeting with Putin.
	Oh, brother.
	Yeah, he had a whole meeting.
	Is he registered as a foreign agent?
	He has to be.
	I don't think so, but there he is.
	If he comes out and says one thing that has anything to do with the Russians, he has to register as a foreign agent.
	He's over there sitting with Putin on the couch, and DiCaprio revealed that two of his late grandparents were Russian.
	And he always wanted to bring his grandmother to St.
	Petersburg.
	I guess that was a little too late.
	Then he called himself half Russian, as the Novosti News Agency reports here.
	And so there you go.
	Russian agent, former Soviet spy, Leonardo DiCaprio.
	Interesting.
	Well, we'll be hearing from him on behalf of the regime.
	You watch!
	I'm calling it right now.
	The Russians are going to go kill some people somewhere.
	Let me think.
	I'll just take one.
	Georgia.
	There's a couple other ones.
	And then Leonardo is going to do a benefit.
	Chechnya.
	Chechnya, you don't bring this guy out of the woodwork, out of the blue.
	You have to start small.
	So it's going to have to be Chechnya, which we're slightly sympathetic with because they're terrorists.
	So DiCaprio can come out and say something about that, and we're all going to agree with him.
	Yeah.
	Oh, Leonardo.
	I got to tell you, handsome man.
	Another handsome man.
	Leonardo DiCaprio.
	Just a handsome devil.
	I'll give you that one.
	Because I will agree with it.
	If you're at all, we'll just watch.
	I mean, we can put it on the prediction list, but it's going to probably happen sooner than later.
	Maybe happen in 20 days, for all we know.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I'm still freaked out about that.
	Let me just play that one more time, that clip.
	Set it up one more time for us, John, because that's a great clip.
	Yeah, this is the guy who was the ex-Congressman who was always the head of the Armed Forces Committee, Duncan.
	And he was on Hannity defending the TSA with, you know, the typical bull crap that these, Duncan Hunter is his name.
	You can look him up on Wikipedia.
	Which is, you know, what you do because you have to.
	And then he just drops a bomb in the middle of nowhere.
	As though it was on his mind.
	Here we go.
	I believe in justice.
	I believe in our constitution.
	You do have to have a way to detect explosive.
	I mean, that's the key.
	No one's against that.
	You've got to detect enough explosive, the kind of explosive that could rupture the whole of it.
	How about dogs?
	I'm sure there's ways they can do this, but there's a little bit.
	I think it's done very unprofessionally.
	What we've seen, the horror stories, the bad stuff.
	You've got to remember, while we're sitting here, there's people fighting in Afghanistan right now.
	Some of those young guys in Helmland Province will be dead in 20 days because there's heavy firefights going on.
	We're Americans, and we're asked to endure some inconveniences.
	unbelievable well we'll keep our eye on that one 20 days.
	We're on December 15th, right after the bank run in Europe.
	Should be interesting.
	And I'm always wondering, you know, you have somebody like, is Hannity so disconnected from the people there that he's just lathering?
	No.
	Oh, the Democrats and the Democrats.
	He never hears this stuff?
	Because if you're hosting and if you're interviewing and this guy says something like that, why don't you pounce on it?
	What do you mean in 20 days?
	Because he's an MKUltra subject.
	If I ever seen an MKUltra, it's Hannity.
	And he's of the right age.
	He's MKUltra.
	Yeah, he's MKUltra.
	Absolutely.
	All right, Johnny.
	Boy, I think we can kind of wrap it up.
	I do want to say, and I'm probably going to do a Daily Source Code tomorrow, the Black Friday edition.
	I have now completely migrated my email off of Gmail.
	I am using GNU PGP. I think I mentioned this in the last episode.
	But I also, for those of you using Macs, this is the outrageously cool thing I've got set up, John.
	And it actually helped on today's program enormously.
	There's this program called Mail Steward.
	And what it does is it goes into your email program.
	It sucks out your email and stores it in a MySQL database.
	And then you can search your email.
	It is almost instantaneous.
	I am beating Google by three, four, five, a factor of five times in speed on searching my email.
	It's like, boom!
	Immediately you get it.
	And I got like 300,000 emails in the database now.
	Well, that's the difference between the cloud and local.
	Right, but it's amazing that...
	I mean, the thing is with these SQL databases is that it doesn't really scale for a lot of users, so what I'm doing here really only kind of works if you're doing it yourself.
	But it wasn't all that hard to set...
	I mean, it wasn't trivial, but it wasn't all that hard to set up.
	And screw the cloud, man.
	I'm loving it.
	And the guy who made...
	This program, Mail Steward, you know, he'd charge like 49 bucks or whatever.
	So I PayPal him.
	And then I get a note from him.
	It's like, oh my god, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak said I followed you two guys for years and you're doing a show together?
	Here's your 49 bucks back.
	Hmm.
	But it's a great program, and it's cool.
	I've actually set it up over the network, so it's running on my OSX server, and I can access it from anywhere.
	You could even use, what do you call it, PHP My Admin?
	I'm loving this stuff.
	We need more of this.
	You need more people coming up with ideas to suck your email out of your email program and put it into a SQL database.
	You have not lived life until you've searched your email in a MySQL database.
	You would love it, John.
	You really would.
	I would, because right now the situation is crap.
	It's out of control.
	I mean, the cloud is useless.
	I mean, you try to search within the context of the text.
	You know, in other words, not the subject lines, which you can find mostly.
	Right.
	You can't find it.
	It takes forever.
	It just kills.
	It just dies in the spot.
	Right.
	No, I can do the entire...
	In fact, I can do the search on the raw email itself.
	So if I just want to find Dvorak and Kripes, you know, within seconds, I've got every single email you sent to me which had the word Kripes in it.
	Which is about half of it.
	That's a long list.
	It's a very long list.
	Alright, everybody.
	Well, I'm starting in about an hour and a half from now with my turkey.
	I've got the Brussels sprouts on the stick.
	I've got the yams.
	I'm going to do your yam recipe, John.
	I've got the bourbon.
	And I'm doing mashed potatoes.
	I'm doing corn on the cob.
	And what else was I doing?
	Something like that.
	Yeah, and Christina's coming over.
	She's going to bake a cake.
	Sounds like you're going to have a nice mess on your hands.
	I'm very excited about it.
	It's kind of freaky for me because I've never cooked this big before.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, start at one and we'll be able to take a couple breaks.
	I need karma.
	It's mostly getting the turkey and then sitting around for three or four hours and then starting the rest of the stuff.
	Yeah, it's all about timing.
	And you?
	You got the family over?
	Everybody's here and they're all looking forward to the fantastic kosher turkey that I'll be cooking shortly.
	Well, say hi, said my love.
	And coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California, in the morning I'm the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, the home of Ready Kilowatt, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.

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