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	You're taking our opium wherever they got it from and you're going to use that and we're going to take your tea.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, November 21st, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 254.
	This is No Agenda.
	USA officially closed for business.
	Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower area, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West and the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Buzzkill Bunker here in northern Silicon Valley where there was thunder and lightning, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Yeah, in the morning to you, John.
	In the morning to you.
	And all ships at sea, boots on the ground.
	And the human resources.
	Yes, in the chat room at noagendachat.net, all charged up and ready to go the way their government loves them.
	And boy, it was 5.30 this morning I got up.
	Buckets.
	It was coming out of the sky in buckets, I tell you.
	Really?
	Did you put the buckets aside?
	You know you can recycle those.
	No, that water is not actually ours.
	We don't own it anymore.
	Your government owns the water.
	I think the United Nations owns it.
	That's right.
	United Nations.
	Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.
	Well, John, what a week it's been.
	So you think there's some interesting news?
	Well, I think that you and I have to be very, very careful because what has now, of course, what we were talking about for...
	Months, if not years, has now turned into the national distraction, and there's all kinds of things happening that we're not paying attention to.
	I think we're probably paying attention to it, but the TSA opt-out and naked body scanners is now officially being used as a distraction.
	Yeah, well, I thought it was the last show we did.
	I think it already jumped the shark and became a distraction.
	It continues.
	A lot of good stories.
	We've got some great clips and things, you know, that have a little to do with it, just showing how stupid it's gotten.
	The thing that annoys me the most, of course, is these constant references.
	And you hear it on, I heard it on KCBS News Talk yesterday, as a matter of fact, and Well, you know, they're not that big of a deal because four out of five Americans, according to a CBS poll...
	Yeah, that was a really good poll, but it wasn't a poll of people who had just stood in line and gone through.
	No, and it wasn't a poll of necessarily people who ever go through an airport.
	No, it was just a poll.
	And the question was, do you think it's a good idea to have enhanced security pat-downs and scanners?
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, duh, that's easy to conduct a poll like that.
	Yeah.
	Very simple.
	Mickey actually had a very astute observation this morning.
	She said, this whole thing is about politics now.
	I said, what do you mean?
	He said, well, who's the number one party of securite?
	I said, well, the Republican Party.
	He said, yeah, so that's why you see all the Democrats now and even MSNBC and Keith Olbermann jumping on board, because this will weaken the Republican stance in the elections.
	Because if Republicans say, oh, well, you know, we need to up that funding to Chertoff's group there and RAPISCAN and L3 systems, etc., then that weakens their entire position.
	And I thought that was a pretty good observation.
	Well, the problem with the observation is that the right-wing talk shows don't verify it.
	They're all dead against us and they're trying to outdo the Democrats with their personal...
	But either way, the Republican Party...
	I don't think the Republican Party loses this one for the following reason.
	It's the Obama administration that put this in.
	It's Janet Napolitano that put this in and she's the one that won't walk through the scanners.
	I think it's just the opposite.
	I think the Democrats can be attacked.
	That's why I think they're so defensive.
	Okay.
	Well, you know what?
	The good thing is people are thinking about it and thinking about more than just the blatant violation of Yeah, I know.
	The problem is it's a lost cause until, well, let's see what happens on Wednesday.
	Well, I got a couple things we should probably touch on, and I think you may have a few things.
	I'm sure we just can't avoid it.
	It's important to continue to talk about it.
	I need it to be distressing personally regarding this show that we have to talk about.
	I thought that we could kill it last show and not even do much, and then we've been unable to do this.
	This is one of the great distractions we've ever encountered.
	We have to actually, it's affecting the show negatively.
	That's right.
	Drat it.
	They're screwing with us again, Johnny boy.
	We've got to stay on top of it.
	Let's thank some producers before we move on, though.
	Do we have some today?
	We just have one.
	And as an executive producer, we have David Montoya from Dunedin, Florida, who gave us $500.
	He'll be the executive producer of this show.
	Halfway to knighthood, by the way.
	I got a new job while I was listening to DSC Live on November 19th, keeping the karma going.
	Long-time listener of DSC and no agenda.
	I go by The Ottoman in the chat room.
	Okay, yeah, he's in the chat room right now, in fact.
	Hey, Ottoman.
	Hey, The Ottoman.
	Hey, The Ottoman.
	The Ottoman.
	Right on.
	Well, thank you so much.
	Wow, that's...
	It's good we have one.
	I did three hours and fifty minutes of daily source code on Friday.
	At least someone appreciated it.
	Hmm.
	Food for thought.
	I think this came in before that.
	Food for thought.
	On the PR front, not a lot.
	You were bored.
	No, it's hard work, man.
	It's four hours of ear bleeding music pumping.
	Now you have to imagine what these radio guys that do three hours a day, five days a week.
	No way, because they've got commercials every five minutes.
	They have a lot of commercials, but they still have to be sitting there, and then most of them, in fact, none of them, there's not an exception to this that I know of, then they go off and do a, well, yeah, Rush Limbaugh is the only exception.
	They go off and do a TV show.
	Yeah, but they've got producers.
	Yeah, they've got a lot of producers.
	They've got drivers.
	Here's what I'd like to know.
	How does Sean Hannity...
	But they also have vacations, John.
	Do three?
	Yeah, fine.
	They don't do anything on their vacations.
	Three hours a day, five days a week, then go do an hour TV show and then write a book.
	Please!
	Yeah.
	Do you think he has help?
	Hmm.
	So, as I was about to say, no real PR initiatives to mention.
	However, some people are working on some interesting initiatives.
	The paperclip kid is working hard on getting the hit-em-in-the-mouth paperclip figures and the Gitmo jewelry figures.
	This is art.
	Yeah, no, it's totally art.
	And he's got the whole family involved now.
	His brother is working on the website, and so I'm trying to shepherd that along.
	I received an interesting note from Miss Debbie in Nashville, Tennessee, who said, Dear Mr.
	Adam, do you have Noah Jenner t-shirts that I could give my husband as a Christmas present?
	He really enjoys the show.
	First of all, it's beautiful when you have a spouse who notices what their spouse really likes, and she reached out and said, Well, look, we don't really sell anything directly.
	So you can, you know, Google around and here's some places you could look.
	But I think we still have the Amazon knighthood on wish list item.
	Is that now up on the donation page?
	It's not on the donation page yet.
	But what about No Agenda Stuff?
	Aren't there t-shirts in there?
	Well, yeah, noagendastuff.com.
	That's where I sent her.
	But also, in general, I mean, you can give the gift that keeps on giving and make a donation in someone else's name.
	This is very typical around this time of the year.
	Yeah, that's a really good idea.
	You give someone a beautifully printed card and you say, you know, I've made a donation in your name to support the No Agenda show.
	Your favorite show.
	Your favorite show.
	And we'll call those out and we'll do that.
	What day does Christmas fall on this year, by the way?
	Well, let me take a look.
	Why don't you have a look for that?
	Of course, Thanksgiving, the fake Thanksgiving holiday is coming up this Thursday.
	We'll be working in the morning, as usual.
	Whether you'll be there or not, it'll certainly be available for you as a podcast.
	And it's a great family activity.
	At the end of the Thanksgiving dinner, the end of the day, you know, you could sit down and watch some commercial junk on television.
	You could start making up your list for Black Friday, or you could just all sit down and huddle around the wireless and listen to that day's episode of No Agenda, and I'm sure we'll have a great program for you.
	Christmas falls on what day this year?
	I'm looking at my calendar.
	I just misspelled calendar.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that Google Calendar would notice that you're trying to reach calendar and you're a doob?
	Yeah.
	So Christmas is on a nice Saturday, so that's...
	Okay, well, so the day after Christmas, that'll be nice.
	Another perfect wireless moment.
	And John, before we move on, I have to say, we have a night down.
	Oh, we do.
	Yeah, we have a night down, and this has been building up over the past few weeks, and I was finally able to get a hold of Sir Paul Couture, knight in the order of the mint.
	Whoops, that was interesting.
	And there's been a big issue with people not having received their 10-10-10 coins.
	Some people have not received their original coins.
	I have now had a very long conversation with Sir Paul, and I take the knighthood stuff really seriously.
	It's not just like, hey, thanks, we'll take your $1,000 or whatever, and here's a virtual seat at the virtual table.
	These are people who really help out the show and support us.
	And he's run into a number of personal things that are pretty messed up.
	And so I am working with him personally on sorting all of this out.
	I would just ask everyone to have patience, please, as this is a night of the No Agenda Roundtable and deserves a fair shot at making everything right.
	And it's not entirely within his control, some of the stuff that's happened, but that I am now personally working on this, and we're going to figure it out one way or the other.
	Thank you.
	Is that okay?
	Yep.
	I'm glad you got a hold of him because I was unable.
	Well, the first thing I thought about was something is desperately wrong, and I was pretty much right.
	But what has happened is people have not received what they've paid for, and that is not right, and so we're going to figure out how to correct that and what steps need to be taken.
	But he needs help, and so the host of this program will certainly be there for him to figure out how he can work it out.
	So, big thanks today to David Montoya, the Ottoman in the chat room, as he's known, being our executive producer, the only producer on board, but that does mean that indeed he's halfway to his knighthood, and of course that's an official credit which he can put on his resume.
	And all the rest of you out there, there's something you've got to do.
	You need to go out and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New world.
	Pull it up.
	Stay with me, everybody, now.
	Shut up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	Well, thanks for coming, everybody.
	Okay, we don't have any material this week.
	Yeah, no, no.
	There was really nothing to talk about.
	There was a couple of interesting things that did happen this week.
	I can run a couple of things I picked up on.
	Well, let's just get the TSA thing out of the way right now.
	Oh, the TSA. Okay, well, let's start by running this stupid...
	You heard of the show Wait, Wait, Don't...
	Whatever it's called, it's called...
	Yeah, this is actually...
	It's on our national treasure in PR. And it is actually a take-off of a British show And someone in the chat room will know, which I think is on BBC, I want to say 4, and it's kind of like they get a whole bunch of politicians, comedians mostly.
	They sit around a round table before a live studio audience.
	It's a very, very popular show.
	And it's kind of like a quiz.
	Gosh, someone in the chat room, please tell me what this is called.
	It's someone in Get My Nation East will know.
	It's actually on the second set of clips.
	I got the name of it right on the clip name.
	Wait, wait, don't tell me.
	But I think it's called something else.
	It's called Mock the Week in Gitmo Nation East.
	Mock the Week?
	Mock the Week, yeah.
	Wait, wait, don't tell me is the stupidest name I've ever heard for a show.
	Well, because I don't think they're paying any rights to the BBC. Obviously.
	So they say, "Hey, let's do this, but we'll call it Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me." And Garrison Keillor's been doing a live show on NPR for, I don't know, 25 years called, you know, the Prairie Home Companion or whatever it is.
	And everybody and their sisters say, "Ooh, that's so cool that he does that." We have a local guy, Sedge, somebody or other, who decided to do an exact copy of the Garrison Keillor show locally, and he does it in...
	In a studio with a live studio audience and it's not funny.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And this is like another version of the same thing that's kind of got a twist to it because it's a panel.
	It's not like a variety show like Keillor's show.
	But it's still, you know, lame.
	These guys are playing to the audience.
	It's kind of old-time radio-y because, you know, that's the way it used to be in the olden days before, you know, television came along.
	And I find the whole thing to be pretentious.
	Well, let's have a listen.
	Our national treasure.
	Well, welcome to the show, Chad.
	Let me introduce you to our panel this week.
	First, a contributor to CBS Sunday Morning, Ms.
	By the way, I love you talking like that.
	That's incredible.
	Faith Saley.
	Hello, Chad.
	Hi, Faith.
	Faith, by the way, is the biggest dummy.
	She's the biggest dummy of the three.
	Where is she from?
	CBS News?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Next, a writer for HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, Mr.
	Adam Felber.
	He's sucking his you-know-what.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's like, oh, maybe one day when I get off NPR that I can get a job at that great show with Bill Maher.
	Howdy, Chad.
	Hi, Adam.
	And lastly, a comedian performing at the Hemans Cultural Center in Elgin, Illinois on December 3rd, it's Paula Poundstone.
	Wow, they really couldn't get any guests, I guess.
	Welcome to the show, Chad.
	You're going to start us off with who's Carl this time.
	Carl Castle right here is going to read you three quotes from this week's news.
	If you can correctly identify or explain just two of them, you'll win our prize.
	Carl's voice on your home answering device.
	Ready to go.
	Isn't that a prize to really want?
	Yeah, on your home answering device.
	Nobody uses home answering devices anymore.
	That's so stupid.
	Sounds good.
	Let's do it.
	Here's your first question.
	By the way, some of your tax dollars goes towards this.
	Enjoy.
	If you touch my junk, I'm going to have you arrested.
	Let's get to the quote now, Carl.
	Let's get to the quote now, Carl.
	That's how elitists think about you, by the way.
	No!
	Yeah, you're an idiot.
	We laughed at you.
	John Tyner.
	And he has become the face of a new grassroots protest amongst air travelers against what?
	Those full-body scanners.
	Exactly.
	Also the pat-downs that go with them.
	Yes!
	Very good!
	He's become the crotch!
	Yes!
	You are such a good slave.
	You know your instructions.
	He has more than the face.
	Yes, he has.
	He has become the veritable crotch of this new movement.
	I had, you know, in LAX, where we fly out of, they have the full-body scanners.
	They do.
	Who's this, Paula Poundstone?
	John?
	Yeah, I'm still hearing it.
	It's breaking up for some reason.
	It's creepy.
	The lady that was...
	Okay, the person that was doing mine asked me to moan, and I was uncomfortable with it.
	I thought it was part of the...
	Yeah, it's not.
	It's...
	It's patriotic.
	Here's an interesting detail, though.
	And Paula and I traveled together, so I discovered something.
	That if you submit to the scanner, they won't give you the pat-down.
	Were you disappointed?
	Yes, to Adam's disappointment.
	I asked for both, and I mistakenly went through the scanner first.
	What is the big objection to these see-through scanners?
	Who is this?
	This is the woman from CBS. I don't get it.
	People know what you look like in clothes.
	I mean, it's not showing...
	I have nothing to hide.
	Someone explain this to me.
	Is it people being modest?
	If you're fat, we can tell you're fat in clothes.
	LAUGHTER I'll tell you one of the problems.
	Well, she's sensitive.
	Oh, yeah.
	And, of course, nobody brings up x-rays during this whole discussion amongst the geniuses.
	No, why would you?
	If the TSA gets to see naked pictures of you, then other places are going to start claiming that it's not safe there.
	Like, for example, 7-Eleven employees are going to start to say, you know, how do we know for sure that she doesn't have a bomb?
	We need naked scanners.
	I think that they are.
	This is good.
	I'm going to do that at the house.
	So when anyone comes over, I'm sorry, you have to go through my naked scanning device before we can enter because it's for national security.
	That's an outstanding idea.
	Are completely underestimating the vanity of Americans.
	I think they should take a queue from theme parks instead of a booth on the other side of security.
	So by the time you get through, they've got all the pictures displayed.
	Yeah.
	You find your own fuzzy junk.
	You pay 20 bucks for a framed coffee.
	Bingo!
	You got your first souvenir of the trip right there.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	There it is.
	This is about as shallow and lame as you can get.
	This is, by the way, what people are contributing to the NPR group.
	Additional treasures!
	There's not one mention of...
	I mean, the whole thing is completely sidetracking their x-ray issues.
	By the way, these people that run these things are not radiologists.
	I always thought it was a law.
	If you ran an x-ray machine, you had to be a radiologist, but I guess I'm wrong.
	But that question is never mentioned.
	It's the skinny chick from CBS talking about, you know, I got a nice figure.
	Yeah, if you're fat, we know you're fat.
	If you're fat, we know you're fat with clothes on.
	I don't worry about that.
	What are people all upset about?
	She is a...
	Idiot.
	But is she hot?
	That's the question.
	How can you tell?
	It's on NPR. What was her name?
	Back it up and go back and get the introductions and let's look her up.
	Oh, man.
	Wasn't it Faith something or other?
	Welcome to the show, Chad.
	Let me introduce you to our panel this week.
	First, a contributor to CBS Sunday Morning is Faith Saley.
	Faith Saley.
	Faith Saley.
	I don't even know how you spell that.
	Let's try it and see if Google knows.
	S-A-L-I-E, they say.
	I've got to look her up now, too.
	She's a SAG-AFTRA blah, blah, blah.
	She looks like a...
	She's pretty, but she's one of those...
	She's got like a butt chin, and she usually looks at her images as...
	A butt chin?
	You should look at her images because she's got this one picture that shows right up.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, she has a cleft chin is what that's called.
	Oh, I thought it was called a butt chin.
	Look at that picture of her licking someone's ear.
	That's kind of weird.
	That's weird.
	Face salient, Herschel...
	She's an actress.
	She's an actress.
	Oh, well then she's totally stupid.
	She's an actress.
	Okay, so just a couple things I want to say and then I'll be done with it.
	So first of all, there's a whole bunch of links once again in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	Please take a look at them because everything you want to know is in these show notes.
	Take it from me.
	So, first of all, the connection with the money.
	We know about the Chertoff Group.
	But there's an interesting Obama connection, which I actually blogged.
	And I'll read this verbatim from curry.com.
	Oops, hold on a second.
	I opened up the wrong link there.
	Where was it?
	Anyway, so the CEO of OSI Systems who make RAPISCAN is a guy named Deepak Chopra.
	Now, it is not the Deepak Chopra that you immediately think of, the holistic healing dude.
	This is another dude with the same name.
	And so first of all, he was selected to accompany Barack Obama to Mumbai to attend the U.S.-India Business Entrepreneurship Meeting.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yes.
	That's a good catch.
	I like that.
	I'll give you points.
	And he fully supported Obama during his presidential bid with the maximum amount allotted by law.
	Who knows how many of his employees he got to donate.
	Oh, yeah.
	All of them.
	So, you know, that seems to me to be kind of a...
	A conflict of interest.
	Oh, really?
	Worth an invest finish.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Totally worth an investigation.
	So that is just...
	And by the way, Pistol Pete there, who is the director of the Transportation Security Administration, is a personal friend of Barack Obama.
	I think there was a couple people who declined the invitation to even take the job.
	Oh yeah, nobody in their right mind wants that job.
	No one wanted that, and this guy is a friend of Barack's.
	Barack's buddy.
	How can that guy be a friend of anybody's, let alone Barack's?
	I'm just saying.
	That's the news reporting that I get.
	And I want to reiterate that...
	So when it comes to the...
	The radiation issue.
	Here is the pat answer.
	And you can look at it at the TSA blog because, unfortunately, it was blogger Bob, I think, who blogs for the TSA blogger.
	The TSA blogger.
	He says, look, man, like Johns Hopkins and the National Association of Radiologists, Cardiologists, they all say it's all safe.
	Now, let me just reiterate.
	That yes, there is a standard, and the standard has been approved by Johns Hopkins University College, College of Medicine, what do they call it?
	Johns Hopkins.
	Whenever you say Johns Hopkins, like, well, you're going to fight against Johns Hopkins?
	Are you crazy?
	Are you stupid?
	So, while it is true, and all of these links are in the show notes, while it is true that they have said, at this certain standard of 0.2 radiocatons, whatever they are, that that is deemed safe, None of the manufacturers in their marketing material on their websites actually say how much they emit or if they adhere to the standard.
	And if you read carefully what Pistoli says and everyone else says, they don't say these machines are safe.
	They say no.
	Johns Hopkins has determined that at low doses of radiation it is safe for people.
	But no one actually makes the connection to these machines.
	And these machines have not been...
	Tested.
	Tested, thank you.
	They have just not been tested.
	No, and they're run by people that don't know how to calibrate them.
	Who knows what the maintenance is like on one of these machines.
	It could be killing you.
	You could be walking in and get a lethal dose of x-rays for all you know.
	Now, unfortunately, what you're hearing, and then we'll get off the topic, but I just have to reiterate what you're hearing is a very strong push because everyone is really talking about the pat-downs.
	That's where all the outrage is coming from.
	For as good and well-intended as it may be, opt-out day is actually pushing people through the scanners because there's very little information known about that.
	There's very little talk going on about it.
	Yeah, the only thing they're talking about is are you being seen naked or not?
	That's the only thing that's being discussed.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	Well, you just tell with that woman and the rest of these people on NPR, that's all they talked about.
	They never mentioned x-rays once.
	They don't even let you know there was x-rays involved.
	It's just some magical machine.
	Yeah, it is.
	You walk in and you come out naked.
	Yeah.
	It's like a magic act.
	Like those x-ray glasses we used to buy from the back of the comic books.
	X-ray specs.
	X-ray specs.
	That's right.
	99 cents.
	They're amazing.
	Yeah.
	So I had an interesting dinner on Friday night.
	Mickey's friend, Frank Karachi, you know who he is?
	Frank Caracci is the director who basically did all the first comedies and movies with Adam Sandler.
	They're like friends from back east.
	So he did Waterboy and Around the World in 80 Days.
	And so Mickey knows him really well.
	And this guy, although he's kind of switched on, you know, he's definitely in Hollywood.
	And, you know, I was really...
	Because Mickey's friend, right?
	So I don't want to come across like, oh, there's Mickey in that dick.
	Okay.
	That douchebag.
	What boat did he get on?
	Who hates everything and everybody.
	So I figured I'd see if I could get him to start asking me questions.
	He's like, what's the show?
	What do you do?
	Just a little show.
	No agenda show.
	Whatever.
	I'm just kind of laying low.
	I think he or his lovely girlfriend, by the way, brought up, because they had just traveled back from Italy, And I said, you know, it's really, it's interesting how any, you know, dentists, nurses, doctors, they all have to wear a dosimeter.
	You know what a dosimeter is?
	You'll see a doctor has it in their pocket.
	It's like a little, you know, maybe a clip-on pen or something.
	And at the end of the week, they hand that in.
	It's mainly for insurance purposes to make sure that they haven't received too much radiation in that week.
	Did you know that the TSA is forbidden to use them?
	And then you could just see the wheels turn.
	It was great.
	He's like, oh, really?
	Well, why is that?
	I said, I don't know, man.
	So I know that they're paying the lowest level paid guy there is like $90,000.
	And he made the connection.
	He said, oh, well, yeah, of course.
	You've been getting paid lots of money to be radiated.
	I said, uh-huh.
	Yeah, there you go.
	That's how it works.
	So, you know, it's waking people up in Hollywood slowly.
	Slowly.
	Very, very slowly.
	One at a time.
	One at a time.
	Anyway, tons of information again in the links at noagendashow.com.
	Was there anything else that you wanted to touch on regarding that?
	I mean, Saturday Night Live, of course, had the same jokes.
	And it's all about not getting groped by the TSA and not questioning anything else.
	You know, ah, naked body scanner.
	Okay, well, that falls under the I-have-nothing-to-hide meme.
	Yeah, I got nothing to hide.
	I got nothing to hide.
	You got something to hide?
	I got nothing to hide.
	I got nothing to hide.
	It's great.
	Got nothing to hide.
	More cameras.
	It's great.
	Of course, it's like Mimi pointed out a couple of things.
	What about people who have a colostomy bag?
	Well, you know that just happened, right?
	A 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor.
	I had to go through a pat-down and he has like a hole in his stomach essentially and it comes out of there and goes into the bag and whatever went wrong went wrong and essentially his bladder bag burst all over him.
	He's soaked in his own pee.
	Right in front of everybody.
	Oh yeah, it's total.
	And then there was a woman with the breast cancer survivor who said, take out your prosthesis.
	Yeah, and now we're going to have to re-evaluate it.
	Everyone bitched about it.
	We're going to re-evaluate our procedures.
	Everyone's always going to be re-evaluating the procedure.
	We've got to re-evaluate the procedure.
	We did nothing wrong.
	Right, and if you haven't seen the YouTube video of the TSA strip-searching a kid, this boy, have you seen that one?
	Were the kids screaming?
	Yeah.
	Well, no, no.
	This is a little boy.
	I didn't see that one.
	They're strip searching him.
	They're making him take his shirt off.
	Oh, yeah.
	And everybody puts up with this.
	By the way, one thing that we've failed to mention, I ran into on a Desi site, an Indian news site.
	The Indians, this is what makes the whole thing so stupid.
	And people out there should think about this.
	In India, they refuse to install these machines because the public refuses to put up with them.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So in other words, if you want to bomb something, if these machines protect you so well, just go take a flight from Bombay non-stop into New York or San Francisco or Los Angeles.
	There's no machines in India, and there won't be because the Indian public says, no, screw you.
	Screw you.
	We're not putting up with this.
	The Americans, meanwhile, like the sheep that they apparently are, which is pathetic.
	You know, the great American individualism, the individualistic great country of the United States.
	Of course, we've been de-educating people, so everyone's kind of dumb now.
	Oh, okay, four out of five people say that it's okay.
	Well, then it must be okay.
	It's so pathetic to witness this that it's sickening, and I hope people would help us...
	We need more donations at Dvorak.org slash NA just to mention it.
	So the one thing that really disturbed me though, because we heard about, this is the story of the San Diego Don't Touch My Junk guy, who then left the airport and is being threatened with a $10,000 fine.
	Yeah.
	So there is indeed, and I have the document here.
	There has to be a lawsuit on that.
	I mean, this case...
	Well, hold on a second, because I have here in front of me, and it's from the Department of Homeland Security, and there's a link in the show notes, enforcement sanctioned guideline policy.
	Introduction here.
	On November 19, 2001, Congress enacted the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, the ATSA, which created TSA, which transferred authority for enforcement of civil aviation security requirements from the Federal Aviation Administration to the TSA. On July 21,
	2009, John, we missed this one, I guess, TSA's investigative and enforcement procedures, including the maximum civil monetary penalty amounts for violations of TSA security regulations, were amended to conform the implementing recommendations of the 9-11 Commission Act of 2007.
	The current civil penalty monetary amounts became effective on August 20, 2009.
	And indeed, there are a whole bunch of guidelines here.
	Aggravating and mitigating factors.
	A general matter TSA considers the following aggravating and mitigating factors.
	And they have everything laid out very clearly what the fines are.
	So significance or degree of the security risk created by the violation.
	So this is all where they get to do whatever they want, right?
	The nature of the violation.
	It can determine what we're going to do with that.
	Past violation history.
	Violator's level of experience.
	Oh, I'm a very experienced violator.
	The attitude of the violator.
	Hey, you've got a bad attitude.
	We're charging you more.
	Criminal sanctions already paid for, paid for the same incident, artful concealment, fraud, intentional...
	Fraud?
	Yeah, intentional...
	How's fraud come into it?
	If you, like, doctor your papers.
	So a lot of it is for aviation companies, you know, all the way down to, like, you're not wearing your safety vest.
	I swear to God.
	I mean, this is no joke.
	But then if you go down to individuals, which is at the very bottom of the document, this is an official document, by the way.
	It blew me away.
	I'd never seen this.
	Okay, so security violations by individuals for prohibited items.
	So if you have a loaded firearm, you can get a $3,000 to $7,500 penalty plus criminal referral.
	And you get a referral out of it.
	That's kind of like a cool credit.
	Unloaded firearm, 1500 to 3000.
	BB pallet, compressed air gun flare, starter pistols, realistic replicas, including gun lighters.
	Permanently inert firearms, spear guns, stun guns, cattle prods, or other shocking devices, up to a $1,500 fine.
	So if you have a, or one of those joke, I mean, it's not a good idea, I understand, but if you have a replica, a realistic replica of a firearm, which could be a toy, you can get a $1,500 fine.
	But then also for sharp objects, you know, $1,500.
	Club-like items, which could be a dildo for all I care.
	You know, that could be a club-like item.
	Depends.
	Incendiaries, which can include lighter fluids.
	I didn't know this.
	I didn't know they can actually fine you.
	And then, indeed, for entering the sterile area without submitting to screening, up to $3,000, entering or being present, it's just improper use of airport access medium, whatever that means.
	And then there's a little asterisk way down at the bottom.
	Violations not listed above are subject to the regulatory civil penalty maximum of $11,000.
	So anything else except for these, you can get up to $11,000.
	I didn't know any of this.
	These guys had some actual power.
	No, they slipped this one by us as usual.
	We were asleep at the wheel!
	Well, you know, we're pretty...
	I think we have a lot of...
	We keep up on this stuff and the fact that this snuck by us, you know, last year and has been sitting there lingering.
	Of course, it came to the fore because of the Don't Touch My Junk guy.
	And, of course, they will find him.
	Although he did submit to the touching.
	I mean, it's not like he didn't do it.
	No, but leaving the area after you've...
	They made him leave.
	Well, there's some confusion there, but I think according to the law, the way I read it, or the way it was written up, they can actually find him.
	Well, then why don't they find the pilot?
	Yeah, look, I'm just saying it's another little piece that is just outrageous in this whole conversation about the powers these goons have.
	And the fact that the public puts up with it.
	Why don't we just turn over the government to whoever the fascists, the big fascists are.
	Just put GM on the White House and we're done with it.
	This is a General Motors division right here.
	Oh, by the way, John, speaking of such, so...
	I think as we asserted at the beginning of the show, a lot of this is now being used as cover-up.
	So did not General Motors go public on Wednesday?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	When all of this really hit, right?
	Pretty much.
	At the same time, pretty much.
	So I would like to go to the White House Whiteboard, which is now a...
	It's its own show.
	It has its own RSS feed.
	And it's a show.
	It's a podcast, actually.
	It's Goolsbee.
	I'm glad somebody's picking up on this podcast idea.
	Yeah, they got the right idea over at the White House.
	And I won't play the whole thing, but I just want you to hear the cavalierness of how he basically explains to you how your money is winding up in the hands of rich people.
	And then I think in like 30 seconds I can explain how it really works.
	But what he's doing here is total ministry of truth work.
	He stands in front of the white board, and he has a chart over the past ten years.
	Is Obama?
	No, this is Goolsby, his new chair of the Economic Advisory Board.
	Remember, this is the guy who does stand-up and won the soliloquy.
	He's a talker.
	He's a mouthpiece.
	It's not an official position.
	He's on the Economic Board of Advisors, but he gets to be on the White House website.
	They should post our show on the White House website as some balance.
	Yeah, they should.
	So you've got the past 10 years, and he has something called market value of GM. Have you ever heard of an actual statistic called market value, John?
	Well, there's market cap, which is market value, supposedly, but I guess he's made something else up new.
	Yes, because, of course, market capitalization is all the outstanding shares.
	It's the market value.
	Right, but it's all the outstanding shares and their price.
	That's your market capitalization is market value, correct?
	That's exactly, yeah.
	There's also something called, another one that's very common is called enterprise value, which calculates into that first number the debt of the company.
	Right.
	So what he's done is he's taken market capitalization, which he shows at less than a billion dollars in 2009.
	Do you think that's true?
	Has GM really been down to that?
	Probably, because the stock was in the tank, and it's possible.
	I mean, it doesn't mean you could buy the company for that.
	So none of this has to do with profits, directly with profits, but the way he talks about it, Because what he's about to do is to tell you...
	Wait, wait, hold on a second.
	I think the word you're looking for is that he's, let me just guess, out of the blue, he's misleading the public?
	Yeah, that would be correct, John.
	Exactly, exactly.
	So the economic advisors.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I missed his introduction.
	It's the top of his show.
	He needs a jingle.
	Goolsbee's Minute.
	Hi, I'm Austin Goolsbee from the Council of Economic Advisors.
	And today I wanted to talk a little bit about a major milestone hit by General Motors.
	It's a hit, everybody.
	We got a number one hit with a bullet.
	And by the way, listeners out there who are familiar with Monday Night Football know that this is the voice of John Gruden.
	Oh, really?
	Is that what he's doing?
	No, that is the way he sounds exactly like him.
	You know, like a football analyst.
	Here we go.
	The last you heard about General Motors, they were supposed to have been on their last legs and about to die.
	But that's not quite how it worked out.
	Now this is very interesting because I want everyone to understand there's a difference between market value and revenue and profits.
	There's a huge difference between all of that.
	The story really goes back more than 10 years.
	GM had become a manufacturing dinosaur that wasn't competitive internationally.
	They were bloated with debt.
	They had higher costs than other manufacturers.
	They were making models played with quality problems that people weren't willing to buy.
	Sounds a bit like the U.S., doesn't it?
	Bloated with debt?
	Making shit people don't want to buy.
	It's an analogy.
	It's an analogy.
	And what I've plotted here is the market value of General Motors going from 1999 up through the past several years.
	And what you see is that it was trending downward.
	They were losing market share, they were losing customers, and they were definitely losing money.
	In the four years up to their bankruptcy, General Motors lost more than $80 billion.
	They lost more than $30 billion just in the year 2008.
	And so when the deep recession hit, they were really on their last breath.
	So the president comes into office in January of 2009.
	The economy's in free fall.
	General Motors is about to collapse.
	And the president has a series of very tough decisions that he has to make.
	I don't think that was actually true.
	The economy was not in free fall when he came into office.
	It happened after he was in office, correct?
	No, it was when he came into office.
	The president decides, over the voices of many of the critics...
	That would be us, John.
	We're voices of the critics here.
	...not to just let them liquidate in an uncontrolled manner, but instead to make a $49 billion investment in the company and to force them to restructure to make themselves competitive.
	Now, of course, here's where the...
	So that's messing with a...
	A non-government organization.
	By the way, with an administration, the Obama administration, that has the lowest number of people who have ever worked in the private sector, in other words, had a job in the private sector, in the history of the United States, no other administration has had so few.
	There's like two or three guys total.
	The rest of everybody else is a government worker or some academic person, but mostly government workers.
	Including this guy.
	Yeah, including this guy.
	He's never had a job.
	No, he's not.
	Now, critics said that they couldn't do it.
	They were going to die anyway, and we'd never get a dime out of that.
	But we learned from Ford and from others that big American manufacturing companies, when they make themselves competitive, they can be successful.
	And so the president launched them on a massive restructuring effort.
	And that involved very tough conditions.
	Firing the CEO. This is pretty amazing though, right?
	It's like, hey, we're going to fire your CEO. Replacing a third of the management.
	Kick all your management out.
	Put in some shills.
	It had to be a shared sacrifice.
	Workers had to sacrifice, dealers, suppliers, management.
	So all the slaves had to sacrifice.
	Everybody.
	And by the way, when they started knocking the dealers off, they took a careful look at who contributed to the Obama campaign.
	Oh yeah, we haven't forgotten that.
	And who contributed to the McCain campaign.
	If you were a dealer that contributed to the McCain campaign...
	Your dealership got cut.
	You're out.
	You're done.
	Yep.
	It was the only way to make that company competitive so that they could grow out of their problems.
	Which is bullcrap, because the only way to be competitive is to make competitive products at competitive prices.
	It has nothing to do with that directly.
	But they did it, and it did work.
	Okay, now here's where it gets interesting.
	It worked.
	John, it worked!
	It got their costs down.
	People around the country started buying their cars again.
	And for the first...
	Which is...
	Patently not true.
	They started buying their cars because we had a car bailout, the cash for clunkers, on top of that.
	Can I just remind everybody?
	We had a cash for clunkers program, which was only for U.S.-made cars.
	Please remember that.
	That's why it worked.
	Air quotes.
	First time in years, General Motors actually turned a profit.
	Again, we covered this on no agenda.
	That profit was completely based upon cash for clunkers.
	Or was that a billion dollars, John?
	A billion?
	Oh, it was like ridiculous.
	And the whole thing is, this is a scam.
	Well, hold on.
	I'm going to tell you the scam in a second.
	I just want him to say that it was great.
	And now General Motors begins selling shares again to the public.
	To the...
	Really?
	Really?
	John, did you get in on that IPO? No, they wouldn't give me any IPO stock, but I can buy it now in the open market.
	Oh, yeah.
	From somebody who got it cheaper.
	But where are all the billionaires made?
	They're made at the IPO. You get in pre-IPO, and that's where you make the money.
	Because you buy the shares at maybe $5.
	They go public at $33.
	Nice number.
	And then you dump it.
	Of course.
	Well, then you sell it to the public.
	That's what you do.
	Then you turn around and sell it to the public.
	Initial public offering that was one of the biggest in history.
	So this is where you're supposed to be impressed.
	Wow, this is great.
	They had the biggest initial public, which is basically borrowing money.
	It's borrowing money from the investors.
	It's not like a huge business win.
	IPOs make founders and people on the inside of the financing rich, which, I have to say, includes the U.S. government.
	So let's follow that for a second.
	The value of the company...
	Market value of the company.
	See, now he's changed it from market capitalization to market value to the value of the company, which is really open to interpretation.
	...is now more than $50 billion...
	And investors gave them a major vote of confidence.
	Okay, so here's how it works.
	Let me explain.
	We had something called...
	It used to be called printing money.
	It's now called quantitative easing.
	When you see...
	If you happen to see it on the news, they talk about QE2... And it's the second round of quantitative easing, which is an expensive word for printing money.
	And of course they use that word because most people understand, hey, when they're printing money, doesn't that bring us inflation?
	Isn't that bad?
	So the way it works is they print money so the Federal Reserve can give money, that fake invented money, to the banks.
	The banks are supposed to lend that money to the public.
	But the banks didn't lend that money to the public.
	They are not lending it.
	We all know that.
	The president continuously reminds us the banks are doing that.
	No, they're not lending it to the public.
	They've invested it in the stock market.
	That's why you see stocks going up.
	I mean, what is the stock market, John?
	What's the doubt?
	What's the doubt?
	11,000 still?
	Yeah, as far as I can remember.
	So the banks, and these aren't banks like Citibank necessarily, or Bank of America.
	This is like Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, etc.
	They invested in shares.
	And guess what they invested in?
	In General Motors, in the IPO. So then it went public.
	These guys made billions...
	And put it in their pocket.
	And you didn't get anything.
	It was your money to start with because we're going to pay for it with inflationary measures.
	The first thing that happens is fuel goes up and oil is rising.
	So all the commodities start to rise and eventually food prices will go up.
	That's just the way it goes.
	It takes a year before that happens, but you'll see it.
	So this whole scam, the Goolsby goon, is explaining how we got ripped off and how our money, our money, which was printed in our name, wound up in the hands of the people who really didn't need any more.
	And to me it's despicable this guy stands up in front of the White House whiteboard and explains it away like this.
	It's disgusting.
	Excuse me, let me do the one.
	I'm done.
	I'm done with him, with Goolsby.
	So let's take a look at some international politics where we have a shot at it.
	Good idea.
	Uh, so I'm watching a, uh, in fact, over the weekend, there was a, especially in the morning and some of the off hours on one of the off C-SPAN stations.
	It was fascinating, but it was very difficult to get clips.
	I have a couple, uh, on, on terrorism and the future of terrorism and U.S. policy.
	And it was a bunch of these segments.
	It was done in the alternate white, in the alternate, uh, um, House of Representatives' room, which is buried underground, and apparently the bunker for a bomb attack.
	Really?
	And the guys were talking about, yeah, this is where they would be.
	It's like a giant theater.
	It's really interesting.
	Was there a scheduling conflict on the conference rooms or something?
	This was like a bunch of seminars, and it was all these policy wonks.
	The CIA and the intelligence agencies don't have the only analysts in the world, and anybody who completely watches this show Rubicon realizes that most of these people are in private companies doing this kind of work.
	Which is why Rubicon has been taken off the air because it hit too close to home.
	It was pretty interesting.
	But there's all these companies out there.
	You wonder why they're so big.
	And you wonder what they do.
	There's always some sort of institute.
	Yes.
	Think tank.
	Think tank.
	Or think tank.
	But the term think tank is out and institutes are in.
	And this is the New America Foundation putting this on in conjunction with the Chicago Project or something.
	And they had all these independent wonks come out that work for various people.
	Well, one of them, the first woman that's on there is Corey Shockey, who just goes on about a little thing.
	I want to introduce you to the droning that goes on.
	I've cut these way down because I just want to bring it to an interesting point.
	But I'm going to play a couple of clips and then give you a little background on what they're thinking and what they're trying to promote to policymakers.
	But play the woman.
	Policy Wonk One?
	No, it's another one.
	I have to open up my mail.
	Okay, I've got Doomsday, E4B, Hoover Institute.
	Hoover Institute.
	Okay, here we go.
	The third point I would make is that the strategy of offshore balancing is...
	Oh, that's an MKUltra experiment if I've ever heard one.
	A parallel in some ways.
	to the strategy of extended deterrence that we and the Europeans debated for the better part of the Cold War.
	For those of you who don't study transatlantic politics, the nature of that debate was that the countries that felt threatened wanted American soldiers there because that was the most binding guarantee that the United States would actually engage in the fight the nature of that debate was that the countries that felt threatened wanted American
	And for about, oh, 55 years or so, Germans wrung their hands about whether the United States would really be committed to the defense of Germany if there were not U.S. troops there.
	It is what is gruesomely called the buckets of blood strategy.
	So, if I understand correctly, the Germans wanted us to have the bases all over Germany, which are still there?
	Early on, yeah.
	I think it remains to be seen whether that's still true.
	But anyway, she makes the point that the only reason we're all over the place is because these countries don't believe that we'd help them at all.
	Unless we had a stake in it by putting our people, our boots on the ground.
	Yeah, which makes some sense.
	But the point I want to make here is that this is the kind of...
	I had to listen to this droning of this deep policy crap for, I don't know, two or three hours to get to this one thing that I'm going to make a point with.
	The next guy who comes up, which is policy wonk number one, was a character who was a total independent analyst.
	Extremely boring, but he makes a bunch of interesting points about how screwed up our policies are regarding Hamas and Hezbollah, saying that we can't do any of the things we want to do unless we bring them to the table.
	We can't continue with this idea of not discussing anything with terrorists.
	And we have to really – and his real target is Iran – We've got to bring Iran back in.
	We have to be friends with them, which of course nobody's going to do.
	But play policy wonk one, then two, then I'll get to the point.
	I think it is indispensable that the United States realigns its relations with the Islamic Republic of Iran as fundamentally and comprehensively as it realigned its relations with the People's Republic of China in the early 1970s.
	I won't belabor this point right now.
	We can talk about it in the Q&A if you'd like.
	But I will simply underscore that at this point the United States cannot achieve Any of its own stated high-priority policy objectives in the Middle East, in Arab-Israeli peacemaking, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, elsewhere.
	We can't do it, absent a more positive and productive strategic relationship with the Islamic Republic.
	That's really interesting.
	Haven't our banks, like Goldman and J.P. Morgan, just opened up offices in Tehran?
	Didn't we cover that?
	I mean, what is the problem?
	I thought everything's over now.
	No, we're still saber-rattling.
	But anyway, he makes an interesting point.
	This is the last one.
	There's a little point, policy wonk number two, where he discusses the fact that apparently we were in bed with Iran during the early part of the Afghan thing, and now we've changed our policies.
	Iran's telling us we're full of crap.
	We don't know what we're doing.
	And I just wanted to get that out of the way before I get to the real meat of this thing.
	The United States needs to pursue a genuinely regional strategy for post-conflict stabilization in Afghanistan.
	This means more than just a professed willingness to talk with Iran and others about Afghanistan based on what is frankly a simple-minded proposition that because the Iranians cooperated with us in Afghanistan after 9-11, they would unreflectively do so again.
	I say this proposition is simple-minded because it overlooks an important reality.
	The Iranians think that the U.S. strategy in Afghanistan has shifted away from the strategy initially pursued there in coordination with them during 2001 to 2003.
	The U.S. strategy that has emerged in Afghanistan is interpreted by the Iranians as either fundamentally incoherent, Or to the extent that it has some coherence, is aimed deliberately at important Iranian interests.
	More specifically, the Iranians think that the Obama administration's gradual embrace of engagement with the Taliban is dangerous nonsense.
	As one senior Iranian official put it to me, if the United States wants to strike a deal with the Taliban, why did it invade Afghanistan in the first place?
	All right.
	Okay.
	So there's a bunch of these things going on.
	And by the way, the overall thesis, it seems to me, is that we're doing everything wrong, which is fine.
	So then we went on, and I got quite a bit out of it.
	And then they pulled a trick, and I've seen this done before.
	This is going on more and more, and I've seen it in tech conferences, and I saw it on this thing where they...
	Have a shill in the audience.
	No, no.
	That's the problem.
	So to avoid the shill or the guy with the good question, Everyone who goes to conferences is going to start to see this, because this is the trick.
	At the end of all these long speeches about this and that, this guy who's the host, he goes on and says, okay, we're going to take a few questions, but what we want to do is I want you to ask a question, and then we're going to take all the questions at once, and then the panel will answer the questions.
	Oh, what a horrible way of doing it.
	Have you ever seen this?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	And it's so non-interactive.
	Why don't you submit it in writing?
	Which they do as well, right?
	Yeah, they do that too, and then you can go through them.
	So they have a whole bunch of people ask questions.
	They had about ten people ask a question.
	They answered like two of them.
	But the one they definitely didn't answer.
	This question comes up out of the blue.
	From a guy who runs a magazine that's for analysts, I guess, called Executive Intelligence.
	And he asked this question.
	This is the question from the audience.
	I just went, oh, we've got to follow up on this one.
	And they didn't even touch us with a 10-foot pole.
	Thank you.
	Mike Billington from Executive Intelligence Review.
	None of you have mentioned the narco side of narco-terrorism.
	And yet, as I'm sure you know, the Russians have, especially Viktor Ivanov, their drug czar, has declared Afghanistan to be essentially a second British opium war with the massive flow of drugs out of the British-controlled area of Afghanistan until recently.
	I want you to move to the question.
	Very quick.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't be too smart there.
	Move it along, will you?
	Shut up.
	The problem is that the U.S. administration under Obama has basically said we shouldn't take on the drug issue.
	We want to focus on terrorism.
	General Jones, just two days before he was fired or resigned, gave a very powerful speech in Russia fully endorsing the Russian call for a global collaborative effort on fighting drugs, fighting international crime, and the sophisticated interface with international business.
	So I'd very much like to hear your comments on that.
	Wow!
	Thank you.
	Wow, the sophisticated interface with international business.
	I love it.
	General Jones was fired shortly after giving a speech to the Russians saying, yeah, you guys are right.
	So what's that all about?
	So does that kind of bring up our incessant harping on the fact that we're protecting the poppy fields?
	Only it brings in two other issues.
	It brings in, who's this General Jones guy I've never heard about?
	And what has this got to do?
	Why is it in the British section?
	As in the British Opium War.
	Interesting.
	So apparently there's more dimensions to this than our simple, you know, it's the CIA moving a bunch of money out, or a bunch of opium out, or heroin as it were, because they've got the processing facilities there too, we would assume.
	But the fact they would not talk...
	This was no.
	Wow.
	He didn't even want them asking the question, let alone discussing it in public.
	I'm sure that it didn't...
	See, this was a public C-span event.
	Yeah, hold on one second, John, because everyone needs to know.
	It's what we do, so you don't have to.
	C-spin.
	So you don't have to.
	Yeah, in fact, it took me forever.
	When this happened, I said, oh, finally I got something I can use.
	Yeah.
	Because I couldn't...
	You couldn't play these little lectures, these people.
	I mean, it was interesting.
	You sit there and record...
	I mean, we have to record over the Kardashians, over Chelsea Lately.
	We got to record over everything just to have enough space on the DVR to get to anything.
	So anyway, so this was the jam, and I think it's got enough little tidbits in it because, you know, he was trying...
	Ooh.
	The C-SPAN, you know, when you watch this thing, which is a bunch of policy wonks going on and on about various things from an analyst's perspective, an intelligence analyst, you're not going to get the really great stuff because this is on C-SPAN. The guy kept reminding everybody this was on C-SPAN, so they're going to be slightly circumspect.
	About what they talk about, right.
	Right.
	The audience was filled with various intelligence agency people.
	You could tell by looking at it.
	Spooks.
	Spooks.
	The place was filled with spooks and wannabe spooks and independents.
	Oh, spook groupies.
	Brookings Foundation.
	All these different people were in.
	There was a big audience.
	Huge.
	Packed.
	And they had panel after panel of these people.
	But they would not address this particular topic.
	It never went toward it.
	Every time it was just derailed.
	No wonder it was in the bunker of the house.
	No wonder.
	These are the real guys.
	The real guys.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yeah, so you couldn't bomb.
	It was just kind of a joke.
	They said they couldn't get any other space.
	No.
	That's the place you could put them where they could all be protected.
	Yeah, because one bomb in that place would get rid of the entire system.
	Yeah, so they put him in the bunker of the House of Representatives, and that's where the conference took place.
	Wow.
	So did anyone answer the question?
	No, that question was never addressed.
	There you go.
	That was the answer.
	Wow.
	So we thought we were outrageous with saying that the poppies in the CIA and bring it in on military flights and that a lot of it is being used, whitewashed through Wall Street.
	Even though we know for a fact this was done during the Vietnam War.
	Yes, and go watch American Gangster.
	Yep.
	Which is basically more of a documentary than a non-fiction piece.
	Yeah, with a hot actor.
	You know, Benzel Washington, really hot.
	Women love him.
	But there's so much more to it.
	The British part really freaked me out there for a second, though.
	Because I thought it was just U.S., but I guess the...
	What was the first...
	Because he says it's the second British opium war.
	What was the first?
	That was the one in China where they said, you guys are taking tea and we're taking the opium.
	No, I'm sorry, it was the other way around.
	They said, you're taking our opium wherever they got it from and you're going to use that and we're going to take your tea.
	Give us your tea!
	And so the first opium one, there was actually a little war over this because the Chinese were, we don't want opium, it's going to kill our people.
	Too bad!
	Right, but now it's killing the Russian people.
	Right.
	And that's why the Russians are so upset about what's going on.
	And so then one of our guys, General Jones, goes over there and says, yeah, you're right.
	I don't know what we're going to do about it.
	Boom.
	He's fired.
	You're out, dude.
	Shut up.
	I mean, come on.
	I mean, geez.
	What further can we take this?
	You know, I mean, it shows up this guy from Executive Intelligence, the magazine, I'm sure.
	You're right.
	Yeah.
	It's like, you know, did you read that document that you were supposed to sign before we were on C-SPAN? Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, ladies and gentlemen, once again, the TSA Naked Body Scanners.
	The distraction of the week.
	Hey.
	On the agenda.
	Look over there.
	Wow.
	Good catch, John.
	Good one.
	I give you max points for that.
	And thank you for watching that.
	Thank you.
	I do know a lot more than I knew, but I mean, it's like, okay.
	Well, you know what?
	We've got low friends in high places.
	And by the way, my email now is I installed GNU PGP. Which is a new version of PGP. It's actually pretty simple to install now.
	I could do it in like 15 minutes.
	And so you can send me encrypted email and documents.
	It's really safe now.
	And I encourage everyone else who has something to say.
	To talk about encrypted email documents, what do you think the deal is with the Swedes deciding to...
	To arrest if they can find him.
	Oh, Assange?
	Julian Assange?
	Yeah, that guy.
	Yeah, well, I think, as we predicted, it's time for two to the head for the guy.
	Well, maybe he's gone off the reservation.
	Forget that.
	What is the deal with Jimmy Wales' head on every Wikipedia page?
	From different angles.
	Is he trying to look like a sad little child from Malawi?
	No, he thinks he's a hunk, to be honest about it.
	Now, let me tell you something that a lot of people don't realize.
	Wales is kind of...
	He's always kind of puffed up when you run into him.
	And he's got that funny-looking...
	It's a short crop beard thing.
	You need a special razor to cut.
	And he has his business card.
	The Don Johnson razor.
	Right.
	He has a business card and on his business card there is a picture of him.
	Oh, that's what I have on my business card.
	A picture.
	No, he's got a picture on the business card.
	He's got his name and his picture.
	And if you turn the business card over, it's a full picture.
	Oh, wow.
	It's a porno card.
	So he has a card that, which is just like, I've never seen anyone do this, but he has a picture on the front and a full picture.
	The whole back of a card is his face.
	One of those pictures that you see on the wiki page.
	And I just think it's a pickup card.
	Hey, look at me.
	You won't forget this face.
	I'm looking at, you know, so...
	You know, there's good and bad about Wikipedia.
	Bad is, kids are being taught to use it in school as absolute truth.
	Yeah, which is bad.
	This is really bad.
	But good, because for general information, there's some validity to it.
	Yeah, it's just for the big chunks.
	Every single page has his picture on it.
	Like, we need money.
	But why his picture?
	I think he's trying to get laid.
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	Thank you.
	It's mystery solved.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	Just trying to get laid.
	I got a lot of flack from some of our producers and listeners, which of course is the same thing, from Gitmo Nation Leprechaun, or also known as Gitmo Nation Shamrock, Gitmo Nation Broke Ass, Ireland.
	And I played that clip from the Minister of Finance.
	On the BBC on Thursday's show, and people are like, hey, that guy's actually a dork.
	He's a total dick, and he's part of the problem.
	And of course, I know very little about Ireland other than U2 is from there.
	And I have been to Ireland once, and it's, of course, a stunningly beautiful country.
	But there's this video...
	More colors of green there than anywhere.
	It's beautiful.
	But there's a clip.
	It's called The Irish Crisis in 30 Seconds.
	The clip lasts two minutes, interestingly enough.
	But I do want to play it because it does indeed explain...
	It's exactly the problem.
	But listen to it because it really...
	And a lot of people say, this is the guy you want to listen to.
	Here's the information.
	This is what really happened and why Ireland is in a bind.
	The ailing Irish economy is still afloat.
	That's the message from the country's leaders as they insist they don't need bailing out.
	For many people outside Ireland, the swift decline of the Celtic tiger economy is somewhat baffling.
	David McWilliams, a leading Irish economist, says he can explain it in 30 seconds.
	It's very simple.
	We misdiagnosed a large overdraft from Germany as an economic miracle.
	The Germans lent money to the Irish banks, who lent money to the Irish people.
	And then when that money started to run out, or when the Germans wanted their money back about two years ago, we didn't have it.
	That's exactly what happened.
	And the reason we didn't have it is we spent it all on houses, and our balance sheet looks like this.
	Houses on one side, debts on the other, house prices are falling, and the cost of debt is rising.
	Well, there you go.
	So, I didn't know that.
	It was the German banks who lent to the Irish banks, and then the Gitmo Nation Deutschland said, hey...
	We're calling in their loans.
	We're calling in the marker.
	Yeah, we're calling in the marker, dude.
	Send it back.
	Why'd you give it to us in the first place?
	We're not prepared to give it back to you yet.
	What's that all about?
	But that's not the way Europe is supposed to work, is it?
	I mean, two years ago.
	Well, I have no idea how Europe is supposed to work.
	I don't know that it works.
	So, anyway.
	No, I don't really think it does work.
	But very interesting analysis to understand how.
	And of course what's happening now, and I won't play the rest of the report, but you can see for yourself it's in the show notes, is that all the new Irish workforce, they're all preparing, even in school, they interview a couple kids at school, they're preparing to go to New York, to London, Hong Kong, anywhere.
	Everyone's leaving the country.
	En masse.
	And when everyone leaves the country, that's when guys like the IMF and the other economic hitmen come in and buy pieces of the country.
	Okay, I'll take this.
	That's mine.
	It's all about land at the end of the day.
	I think we should buy some land ourselves.
	We should get some Irish land.
	Some leprechaun land.
	If we wait long enough, we might be able to afford it.
	Yeah, well, not at the rate we're going.
	But let's talk about some of that.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	So, we've got a few people we want to thank this week for helping us out, helping us produce this show on this fine Sunday.
	Sir John Smith of Alpharetta, Georgia, $100.
	And he says, come on, guys, we have a DBI, which is interesting, a douchebag index of 99%.
	If not for John and Adam, you could at least find $5 or $10.
	For guys like Pelsmacher, Couture, and others who keep the show going, John Smith being one of them, be a donor, not a boner.
	Hey!
	I'll give him a little...
	In the morning!
	Good one.
	I like that.
	We got a check in the mail also from, and I've got the mailing address on the Dvorak.org slash NA site for people who want to mail a check in.
	Just send us some cash.
	We prefer that because PayPal gets nothing.
	In fact, Stephen Dean, sounds like Stephen Dean, he says, founder of Dean Co.
	IT Services.
	My contribution to keep you going on a daily basis breaks down like this $50 for a dedouching or douching.
	De-douching?
	Okay.
	You've been de-douched.
	Needs $50 for karma for his fledgling Chicago area home-based business computer repair company pronounced like James Dean Co.
	Services at ITServices.DeanCo.com.
	You've got karma.
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	Screw PayPal, he says.
	He says our show is the greatest show in the world.
	Well, thank you.
	We think so, too.
	Carl Ransom, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand.
	$100.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	Wanted to send some support for the recent good work on TSA abuses.
	Can I also get a mention of my app, Thinking Rock, which is the iPhone companion for popular getting things done?
	Desktop app of the same name.
	And he's got a trgt.com.au.
	No, it's trgtd.
	I'll take a look at that.
	Is that an iPhone app?
	Yeah, for the iPhone.
	Oh, cool.
	I'll take a look.
	I'm a fan of getting things done.
	It works.
	Yeah, good luck.
	Michael Kearns.
	We know you don't use it.
	That's for sure.
	Maybe I need it.
	I should get an iPhone.
	Flat City, Missouri.
	6969 ITM. John Adam.
	Most don't know.
	There's a Kansas City, Missouri and a Kansas City, Kansas.
	I know.
	I mentioned it last week.
	And because you did, oh, that's me, I'm rolling out a new website next week developed by interns that need some karma.
	Does he have a website address for that?
	Not yet, apparently.
	Okay.
	You've got karma.
	John Snyder, Sir John Snyder, Chicago, Illinois, $67, donating to remind everybody to brine their turkeys.
	Ah, what is the process of brining?
	It's taking the bird, first you need a huge pot, and then you take the bird, and there's a solution, you can look it up on the internet, of water, some spices, and salt, lots of salt.
	Oh, of course, brine.
	Yeah, brine would make sense.
	And you dump the turkey in there for, like, 24 to 48 hours, something like that.
	And then it soaks up some of this stuff.
	Hey, I might try that.
	I'm doing the turkey this year.
	It makes a juicier bird.
	Really?
	So brine.
	Okay.
	Look at brining turkeys.
	And anyone who is skeptical, I don't do it.
	I do it with chickens once in a while.
	Brine chickens are quite good.
	Well, if you're skeptical, then...
	Then I may not want to do it.
	No, no, I'm only skeptical because I don't have a problem cooking turkey properly, so I don't believe I need to brine my turkey.
	Is it easier to brine?
	Is that the whole idea?
	Well, it makes the bird less likely to dry out the bird.
	A lot of people, they overcook their turkey.
	You know that this brining will, of course, cause heart attacks and early coronary disease.
	Well, yeah.
	According to the survey shows.
	Yeah, according to the American public at CBS. I'm also going to do candied yams, so I need a good recipe for candied yams.
	I've got a great recipe for yams.
	We'll do it right now.
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	Now, this I got from Emeril, and I've tried it a couple times.
	It's fantastic.
	Well, it's not your recipe, then.
	It's from Emeril.
	No, no.
	All recipes are not my recipe.
	Oh, okay.
	But believe me, you wanted a good recipe.
	Yeah, I wanted a good recipe.
	You bake how many yams you're going to get.
	Get some garnet yams.
	Those are the sweetest.
	Garnet yams?
	Garnet yams are good.
	So you get some garnet yams, and you may be about three or four of them, or five, depending on the...
	You want the big ones.
	You've got to cook them in the oven.
	You have to bake them in the oven so they get kind of sweet.
	But it's going to take you an hour and 15 minutes to do this.
	And you wait until the...
	And put them over a foil because there's ooze, goops out of the ends.
	Right.
	And then you take and you pull them out and then you split them open and you scrape out all the insides, including the stuff along the skin if you can.
	And then you mix it in with butter.
	And you can figure out the proportions as you do it.
	Butter, cream, and bourbon.
	Ooh, bourbon, right.
	And I'm telling you.
	But how does it get candyized?
	It's the candy ice takes place during the baking process.
	They're actually kind of candy.
	What people do is they put in honey and things like that to make them a little sweeter.
	You can put a little honey in if you want to.
	Just get the garnet yams though.
	That's the best.
	To this recipe.
	But it's the bourbon.
	Bourbon and cream.
	I love it.
	Anyone out there can experiment with the proportions.
	Ed Chavez, New York, New York, 6610.
	Might be better suited for a DHM plug, but have you heard of the new treaty Japan has with Mongolia for rare earth minerals?
	We'll do that on DHM plug.
	And he's a native San Franciscan.
	Thrilled to realize that once I started donating to No Agenda, the Giants finally won a World Series.
	There you have it.
	It's proof.
	It works.
	I knew it.
	I knew something accounted for it.
	John Martinez, Gilroy, California, 5555.
	Martin Osterhoot.
	Osterhout.
	Osterhout in Albany, New York, 5555.
	Born in 55.
	Turned 55 this Sunday.
	We'll celebrate by listening to his 55th podcast.
	We wish.
	Favorite podcast.
	He liked to challenge all the douchebags who haven't donated to match his donation.
	If he can afford it with his college food service worker salary...
	They should be able to cough up a few bucks.
	And I get laid off.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I think he means I got laid off.
	No, no.
	I get laid off for four months a year.
	Right.
	Because there's no school.
	Right.
	And he can afford it.
	And he can afford it.
	Well, thank you very much, Martin.
	We really appreciate that.
	Big deal for us.
	Kevin Deusling, or like to call it Kevin Deucebag Deusling, donating his money on behalf of my friend Justin Caldwell, who celebrated his 25th birthday.
	We'll call out in a second.
	Again, he needs some karma.
	Okay, we can give him that.
	Oops, sorry.
	You've got karma.
	I like the name Deucebag.
	Ted Howard, 5510, Dallas, Texas.
	Happy 32nd birthday.
	That's coming up.
	Nicholas.
	Just Nicholas.
	In Warsaw, Poland.
	That's nice.
	5510.
	Planning to mention my name.
	Just use Nicholas from Warsaw.
	Not my real name.
	It works.
	Thank you, Eric Schill.
	Hi, John.
	I've been listening to the show for a few months.
	I've been listening to the show for a few months and absolutely love it.
	Great job.
	Looking for some major karma.
	I need to find a good job.
	The present one is total crap hole.
	Wow, extra karma for you.
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	Crap hole.
	Wow, that's bad.
	That's bad mojo right there, man.
	Richard Nossel, Davidson, North Carolina, $50.
	Ricky Pierce, continuing his knighthood layaway, $50.
	Joseph Costello, Pittston, Pennsylvania.
	Last time he asked for help with disgusting hotel rooms.
	Your karma really works.
	Three perfect rooms in a row.
	No bed bugs.
	Right on, right on.
	Please send some karma to my wife and her friend Mary.
	We'll do that one more time.
	You've got karma.
	George Van Der Horst.
	Katzhovel.
	Katzhovel.
	Yeah, very good.
	Katzhovel.
	And finally, Craig Jones in Danville, Pennsylvania.
	Which means Bounce Hill, by the way.
	Bounce Hill?
	Yeah, Bounce Hill.
	Katzhovel.
	I wonder what the reference is to.
	Those Dutch men, I tell you.
	Meanwhile, Craig Jones is a 21-year-old college student from Danville, PA. Love the show.
	Send my old college roommate, N.A. Minuteman, Andrew Schmidt, a birthday shout-out.
	Okay, we've got some birthdays.
	And he wanted some karma as well, so we'll give him that for a second.
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	Enough karma dished out today.
	Today, you've got to be careful with that karma back.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, watch and go.
	Kevin Dusling says to his buddy Justin Caldwell, turned 25th yesterday.
	Ted Howard says happy 32nd birthday to Josh Gertson.
	And Craig Jones wishes No Agenda Minuteman Andrew Schmidt a happy birthday.
	He turns 23 on the 24th.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	It's your birthday!
	NoagendaShow.com, Dvorak.org slash NA. Help us out for the next show.
	We need more producers.
	And ChannelDvorak.com if you can't get to Dvorak.org slash NA. And we have the new initiative on there for $1 an hour, which you should read about.
	The idea is that you get more than a dollar an hour's worth of entertainment compared to what you pay for a movie.
	Hell yeah.
	Which is, what, ten bucks an hour.
	And you can't listen to it over and over, which you can do with our show.
	And we also have the niner, niner, niner thing.
	Yeah, we had no niner, niner, niners today.
	Yeah, I found that distressing.
	Yeah, that is a little distressing.
	It's a brand new promotion and goes right down the drain.
	Yeah, well, these things, you know, they're all experimental.
	You never know what sticks.
	Now, do we want to talk about some of the new initiatives we're working on, you and I? We're going to do a talking points memo, which I think is valuable.
	I've come to the conclusion, and Adam and I have discussed this, which is that...
	On email only, by the way.
	We haven't actually talked.
	Well, we talk kind of on email.
	We try not to talk.
	We try not to talk, yeah.
	It ruins the show because we'll talk about stuff and it never goes on the show, so we have to be careful.
	And four hours a week is enough.
	And by the way, the other thing is, like I talked to him in email, I said, I know what I've got.
	I've got a good thing for this show.
	I'll bet you Adam's got the same one.
	And so we always, there's a slight competition here, which is, this show is not rehearsed.
	No.
	It's rehearsed by the individual.
	I mean, we think of the stuff we're going to do, but we don't work together.
	We work off of each other.
	Yes, independently.
	It's just organized.
	And that's why we can't do the show in the same studio, either.
	No, because, you know, what a distraction that would be.
	Yeah, I mean, like when I work with Leo Laporte, you know, we've worked together before in the same room, and we actually work better because, you know, we know all our cues, but that would ruin this show because we'd be cueing off each other, and it'd become more of a comedy act.
	Yeah.
	And let's face it, we're no comedians.
	Yeah, and...
	Alright, so we've got the talking points memo.
	That will go out to everyone who has donated?
	Is that how that works?
	Well, it's going to go out to everyone who's on the mailing list.
	So we can encourage people to get on the mailing list.
	You can see it when you go to No Agenda Show.
	There's a link to it.
	There's a link on curry.com and there's a link on dvorak.org when I post the show.
	And if you get on that mailing list, you'll get the talking points memo.
	And the talking points memo is going to be a short summary, like on the TSA thing, of real succinct points.
	Because this is what political parties do and candidates.
	Everybody uses this because what you can do is if you know what the...
	And there's going to be a few of them.
	You don't have a lot of them.
	You just have strong little points.
	Like when Adam had his little discussion with his producer friend at the dinner the other night in Hollywood...
	Those were kind of talking points that he was addressing.
	And if you have these, you can derail usually people who are argumentative.
	Or you can just get them thinking about something.
	I mean, what I personally like is if you can throw a talking point out there, then they start asking you questions.
	Once you've got someone asking you questions, then you're golden.
	Yeah, you're in charge.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, then it's like, oh, go ahead, ask me.
	I've got some answers for you.
	That's the magic that you want to do.
	When can we get this first one out, John?
	Can we get this one out before Thanksgiving?
	Well, I'm going to use it to...
	That's a no.
	I want to get a mailing out to announce the talking points to people, and then maybe I can get one out before Christmas.
	I wanted to do the first one in January, but I can probably do one in a few weeks.
	That would be good.
	I want to let people join up so they can get it, because I don't want to send them out over and over again, and I don't want to post them.
	But anyway.
	No, no.
	It's exclusive.
	Exclusive for people who are on the mailing list.
	And it's very important you support this show.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. The $5 supporters, the Lucky 33, the $30, the boarding pass.
	Everybody, we appreciate it so much.
	We really do.
	Keep telling more people, particularly this holiday season coming up, and you're certainly going to be able to say, I knew all this was coming down, all this TSA crap.
	How do you know?
	Well, I've been listening to this show called No Agenda.
	I knew about this a half year ago.
	I knew about all this.
	I knew it was happening.
	It's a part of something bigger.
	And you certainly, by now, you can easily talk about the money, where the money's going, what the real push is for the scanners.
	You can talk about the radiation.
	You don't need no talking points.
	You've been listening to the show for two weeks.
	You've got enough talking points for Thanksgiving.
	And don't be a dick about it.
	Just be calm.
	Because people always want to be on the inside.
	Really?
	You knew about all this?
	Oh yeah, I knew this was coming.
	Well, you don't get it on real television.
	You get it on like C-Span.
	C-Span?
	You watch C-Span?
	No, these two guys.
	Who wants to watch C-Span?
	No, you don't have to because these two guys, they do it so you don't have to.
	It's really cool.
	You should check it out.
	Right.
	So, that's pretty much it.
	That's talking points for the show.
	We'll do one of those, too.
	Listen to the show.
	And I did want to mention, it was at Soho House, where we had the dinner with Frank Karachin.
	Soho?
	South of Houston?
	Yeah, the Soho House originated in London.
	It's like all the Hollywood elite.
	Are members of the Soho Club.
	And you can't use your cell phone.
	It's like a club.
	And you can't take pictures.
	And so all the big directors and stars hang out there.
	And you have to be a member.
	And you get blackballed and all this stuff.
	It was a...
	It was the club?
	It's the club, yeah.
	Oh, and you got invited?
	Yeah, the second time, actually.
	Is the food any good?
	Yes, I was going to mention that because they had on the menu a brand new item for dessert, persimmons pudding bread.
	That should have been delicious.
	It was amazing.
	And I actually called it.
	I said, hey, and Frank, by the way, I think he likes to eat.
	And I said, dude, you totally want...
	I'm just like...
	This is like I used your talking point.
	I'm like, oh, persimmons bread, man.
	You're going to love this.
	I've never had it in my life, right?
	It can't go wrong with persimmons bread.
	It's this Native American fruit.
	It's back in vogue.
	Everyone's talking about it.
	And he attacked it.
	Like, oh, my God.
	This is great.
	You're so right.
	Another win for no agenda.
	Not just on the political front.
	But you can also say...
	I could have said, well, you know, I learned about this on no agenda.
	I've got a quiz for you, John, because you know you've really made it.
	You know you're really in.
	You know that you are there.
	That you are at the top.
	You are in the public discourse.
	You are a part of the conversation when you are the clue to a question on Jeopardy.
	Would you agree with me?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Here we go, John.
	This is from the College Jeopardy.
	It's the finals.
	It's the final Jeopardy.
	It's the final question, November 19th, 2010.
	Yale against Boston and some other college.
	The guy wasn't wearing a sweatshirt with his college on it.
	Douche.
	Of course, the Boston chick wins.
	The Yalie guy has...
	It doesn't matter.
	Listen to the final question for Final Jeopardy.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I invite your attention to this.
	Yay!
	Excellent.
	Rated E for everyone.
	Our Living Planet is the category for final today, and here is the clue that will determine, help determine our champion.
	Several species appear in the logo of the UN's International Year of this 12-letter word, vital to the health of life on Earth.
	Thirty seconds, players.
	Good luck.
	Ah, John.
	Um, what could it be?
	Hold on.
	I'm betting it all.
	Betting it all.
	Wait, all your money?
	You can't seriously be betting all of it.
	You know what?
	Why don't we listen to the answer and then we'll look at your card and see if you're right.
	Okay?
	You write it down.
	We'll see if you're right.
	We'll begin with you.
	You were in third place with an impressive 13,800.
	Did you come up with the correct 12-letter word?
	You said, what is conservation?
	Oh!
	Sorry.
	It will cost you how much?
	2,999.
	That drops you down to 10,801.
	You had no money yesterday, so you remain with that title.
	Let's go to Sam Spaulding.
	14,800.
	Which 12-letter word did he think of?
	of what is biodiversity.
	There you go, everybody.
	That's what I got.
	Yeah, of course you had it.
	Biodiversité.
	Which, how many letters in that?
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, actually, in biodiversité, because you have two E's at the end, with the accent on the first one.
	So the Jeopardy question was actually incorrect.
	It's 13 letters.
	But listen, this was even funnier, because the girl who won, because she didn't bet a lot of money, listen to her answer.
	That is the correct word.
	The wager.
	So that's this guy.
	Now listen to the girl who wins, what her answer was.
	I mean, she was looking for 12 letters.
	A two-day total of 27,601.
	Erin has her eyes closed because what did she write down?
	What is diversity?
	What kind of idiot are you?
	If you have to have 12 letters and you write down diversity, she's got the diversity part, how can she mess up the bio part?
	I don't understand how that works.
	Anyway.
	She wasn't brainwashed to death to the point where she would come to her.
	What was the school that that kid who got it right?
	Yale.
	Yale.
	Typical.
	Yeah, of course.
	There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
	gentlemen, it is now an official final Jeopardy answer.
	Biodiversité.
	Remember you say it loud and proud.
	When everyone's talking about it, you say, excuse me, it's pronounced biodiversité.
	Tay.
	All right.
	I got to move to a new Plavix ad.
	Oh yeah, let's do that.
	What does Plavix do again?
	I forget.
	It's just another one of those things that will kill you.
	But the point is that this one's interesting because this is another one of those ads where one of your kids is lecturing you.
	Oh yeah, you're stupid.
	It must be for heart attack then.
	You're stupid.
	And so what's really interesting about this one is that, yeah, they're making the kids younger.
	This is like a young girl.
	She's probably about 12.
	And she's got an iPhone, and she's lecturing her mom based on the search that she does on the iPhone and reads from the Wikipedia and everything else.
	Oh, and look, there's a picture of Jimmy Wales.
	It's just like, give me a break.
	Hit it.
	Mom, new shoes?
	Old legs.
	P.A.D., the doctor said.
	P.A.D. P.A.D.? Pad?
	P.A.D.? P.A.D. isn't just poor circulation in your legs causing you pain.
	It more than doubles your risk of a heart attack or stroke.
	I was gonna tell you.
	If you have PAD, Plavix can help protect you from a heart attack or stroke.
	Plavix helps keep blood platelets from sticking together and forming clots.
	The cause of most heart attacks and strokes.
	Call the doctor about Plavix, please.
	I will.
	Certain genetic factors and some medicines such as Prilosec reduce the effect of Plavix, leaving you at greater risk for heart attack and stroke.
	Your doctor may use genetic tests to determine treatment.
	Don't stop taking Plavix without talking to your doctor, as your risk of heart attack or stroke may increase.
	People with stomach ulcers or conditions that cause bleeding should not use Plavix.
	Taking Plavix alone or with some other medicines, including aspirin, may increase bleeding risk.
	So tell your doctor when planning surgery.
	Tell your doctor all medicines you take, including aspirin, especially if you've had a stroke.
	If fever, unexplained weakness, or confusion develops, tell your doctor promptly.
	These may be signs of TTP, a rare but potentially life-threatening condition reported sometimes less than two weeks after starting Plavix.
	Other rare but serious side effects may occur.
	Talk to your doctor about Plavix.
	So very interesting, and I have a follow-on to this, but if you Google P-A-D, which you almost expect Google to say, did you mean iPad?
	No.
	You Google P-A-D, pad, a word that's been around for a long time, ever since it's been frogs, you immediately get peripheral artery disease.
	It's right there.
	Peripheral artery disease.
	Actually, you have two ads on my Google.
	I have one ad.
	I have two ads and two on the side, so I have four ads.
	And then one, two, and then the top two hit.
	So I got one, two, three, four things at the top and two on the side.
	Huh.
	That's pretty amazing.
	Right after that comes legal pad.
	Now, I'm signed in.
	I don't even get legal pad.
	I've got Wikipedia.
	Yeah, but you're probably not signed in.
	You can bet on that, my friend.
	So I'll sign out.
	I don't get pad outdoor.
	That's the eighth hit.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I was signed out.
	Let me sign in.
	And then after they get pad thai, then I start to get some other pad.
	See, this is the problem with blue light.
	Speaker Boehner avoids airport pad down.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	Yeah, now it's a Mayo Clinic, heart.org.
	So, this is actually interesting you bring this up, John.
	Do you know what was finally released today?
	Outlight?
	Yeah, I only saw it this morning on the ClintonFoundation.org, so I haven't had a...
	Oh, wait a minute, stop!
	So you went to theclintonfoundation.org and you found they finally filed their paperwork.
	Yes, they have filed their Form 990.
	Great.
	That's correct.
	And so they do two documents.
	One is the IRS Form 990.
	This is for 2009, by the way, so this does not include any Haitian relief.
	We'll have to wait for another year to find out what happened to that money.
	But you know what?
	I have a feeling I won't forget.
	And then they do a little analysis, which of course is the report from BKDLLP CPAs and advisors, who are the auditors, who of course say, hey, these numbers are right, and we trust in all this.
	So again, $30 million in salaries in general.
	The same disclaimer, just the top of the line stuff, right?
	I have to look at more.
	The same disclaimers that they have not actually formalized any procedures for retaining their top officers and managers, but they are working on this.
	So they said the same thing in last year's report.
	Which basically means, hey, you know, we're giving these people incentives to stay, but we haven't done anything official yet.
	So it's kind of ad hoc and whatever.
	So, you know, take it for what it is.
	Here's what's interesting.
	On their balance sheet, they have just shy of $120 million of property and equipment.
	Which I find to be an astounding amount of money.
	$120 million of property.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	$30 million in salaries.
	And then the actual money coming in from public donations is like $5 million.
	Do you know where $122 million a year comes from?
	Nowhere.
	From the government.
	What?
	Yes, from government grants.
	It's like $122 million a year, which is their largest item on the balance sheet on the income side, comes from government.
	What a scam!
	Wasn't this guy just working for the government?
	Well, wait until you hear the real scam.
	So then I look at the other...
	And for some reason, I'm actually pretty good at finding weird things in annual reports.
	I've always been able to do this.
	I was an officer of a publicly listed company, and I was not well-loved amongst the management because they'd send around the report for shareholders, and I'd be like, what's that?
	Shut up, slave.
	Be quiet.
	This is fine.
	Arthur Anderson loves us.
	But the largest...
	On the expenditure side...
	It's just shy of $102 million, so almost evening out the $122 million coming in.
	So basically, the money that comes in from the government, $120 million, let's say a lot of that goes towards salaries, right?
	$20, $30 million, give or take, who's counting?
	Oh, by the way, funny, $11 million in travel.
	I'm telling you, those jets are expensive.
	Yeah, when you rent a jet.
	You're not traveling on an airplane.
	You're traveling on a private jet.
	On the expense side, the largest expense, $101 and some change, million dollars, pharmaceuticals.
	What?
	Pharmaceuticals.
	It's literally, it's it, pharmaceuticals.
	What, is that referring to cocaine or what?
	No, I guess that's drugs.
	So the Clinton's like a middleman.
	Oh, that they give away.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So we get $120 million from the people, from the government.
	That's your money and my money.
	We give that to Clinton.
	He takes 30 mil for himself for the operating expenses and passes the rest on to the pharmaceuticals.
	Huh.
	Interesting how that works, huh?
	And by the way, every expenditure is listed under climate and health, climate and health, climate and health.
	Everything is climate and health.
	And then they have all these big wire transfers that go to individual countries.
	I'm talking $500,000, $1 million, $2 million.
	But the recipients are redacted in the Form 990.
	They're blocked out, so you can't see who actually got that money.
	Other than a couple million to the Boston Clinic organization, Boston Health, I should say, another non-profit.
	So it's like a big scam.
	It's like the money comes from us, goes to Clinton, he sends it to the pharma companies, and he travels around and he's got his expenses, which also they have no formal procedure for expenses yet, according to the Form 990.
	And then he hands it out to other non-profits and buddies and whatever.
	Buddies?
	Yeah, and I'm sure it's doing great work.
	I'm sure.
	I'm sure it's all great.
	Forced inoculations of people, children in other lands.
	By the way, zero money collected for admissions at the Clinton Library this year.
	No one went.
	That's very funny.
	Zero.
	It literally says zero.
	Yeah, nobody goes.
	No one went to the library.
	Yeah, I got the Clinton library.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	What's the admission?
	Five bucks?
	How much did you do last year?
	Nothing.
	And there's like, I love, on the Form 90, it's like, did you give any money to lobbyists?
	Zero.
	This is a big zero.
	No money to lobbyists.
	Uh-huh.
	Right.
	Why would they?
	They are a lobbyist.
	They are the lobbyists.
	Of course they are.
	But just really interesting.
	I'm sure everything adds up, and I'm sure all the numbers are correct, but it just kind of blew me away when the biggest expenditure, almost equal to, if you add the salaries, equal to what the American public is giving to the Clinton Foundation, is going to the pharmaceutical industry.
	Screw that.
	Don't we have USAID and all these other organizations?
	Why does Clinton have to be in the middle of it?
	We're just paying for his jet.
	And by the way, the Clinton Global Initiative cost $6 million just to do that conference.
	Nice.
	Yeah, nice work if you can get it.
	Yeah, for real.
	We're in the wrong business, Johnny Boy, that's for sure.
	Yeah, no, we are in the wrong business, but we're stuck.
	Proves it once again.
	But luckily, very few of the human resources themselves are actually handing out money.
	It's very little money from other people.
	Very, very little.
	Well, no, all of them are.
	Because tax dollars go to the government.
	They tax the crap out of us in this country, 70% generally speaking.
	You really start to look at all the taxes you pay and fees that are really taxes.
	And it goes into the government and then they give it to Clinton.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So we're getting screwed.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Meanwhile in Haiti, where in a year from now we'll be able to see what happened to all the money that you texted into him.
	What now began as a rumor...
	That farmers saw waste from a UN peacekeeping base flow into a river is now mounting circumstantial evidence and perhaps real hard proof that the cholera epidemic in Haiti was brought on by UN peacekeepers who had come in from Nepal.
	That's right.
	Yeah, we heard that.
	The UN brought cholera into the place, and now there's over a thousand dead, and it's spread to Florida and Dominican Republic thanks to the UN peacekeepers, who also shot a guy the other day.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, there's also another report.
	Cholera protests ebb in Haiti, but anger remains.
	They're angry.
	They're angry.
	It's some great reporting.
	Hey, you know, they protest, because the guys are either dead or shot.
	Yeah, but they're angry, man.
	Why are we even in the UN? Well, isn't our president the uber-führer of the Security Council?
	I don't know.
	Is he?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He is.
	Anyway, good job, everybody.
	Hey, I can't wait to have another benefit show.
	Yeah, text your $10 to Clinton directly.
	Let's just remind you how that went one more time.
	Now right now, all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, we just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	Just send your cash.
	Thanks, guys.
	Just send your cash.
	On the Hollywood Whackers front, as I continue to keep my eye on the hills of Hollywood...
	Yeah, and you have some information about the dead publicist?
	No new information other than it appears that she had not five, but three shots to the head and chest.
	Now, this is very disconcerting for the Hollywood elite, as our friend Frank there, he says, man, we now live in the hood.
	So what it's being sold as here is gang initiation.
	To which I laughed heartily.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	When you're getting initiated into a gang, what they say is you've got to go to Hollywood and you've got to go whack someone important.
	Yeah, that's how you get into a gang these days.
	I don't think so.
	So you become a made man in the mafia, but I don't think this is...
	Well, who knows?
	There's usually a reason they kill someone.
	You know, you bring something up there.
	If we're on that kind of level of Hollywood mob, then why wouldn't it be...
	Someone had to be made.
	Well, yeah, that's a possibility, but there has to still be some rationale for this particular woman getting murdered.
	Well, PR runs the world.
	We know that.
	Yeah, but they just don't say, well, there's one.
	For one thing, you have to know who it is because she has a car and she's got a license plate.
	I mean, it was a planned hit for a reason.
	I mean, was she like Randy Quaid?
	Was she being ripped off?
	I don't have the reason.
	I do have more information, though.
	Which is real information, but it's sketchy.
	November 7th, five casting directors in the Los Angeles area received death threats at their office telephones.
	The recipients reached out to their union authorities who represent casting directors were encouraged by the union to alert security personnel at the studios.
	Representative Ed Duffy, who confirmed that the threats had occurred, sent a mass email to members of the Los Angeles casting community warning them of the phone calls, encouraging anyone else who's been threatened to come forward.
	And a sixth casting director contacted him on November 15th.
	Here's a quote.
	Pretty low blow to do something like that to these casting directors.
	By the way, there's probably five million actors who would be suspect in these death threats.
	But, of course, names or workplaces or what the actual threats were or why have not been revealed yet.
	But I've got my ear to the ground.
	But I thought that was interesting, just along the lines of there's some weird shit going on here in Hollywood.
	Have we heard from Randy Quaid recently?
	No, we have not.
	We have not heard from him.
	We have heard from Wesley Snipes, who was going to the big house, although I don't think he's actually entered yet.
	And you'll remember that he didn't file his taxes, which is kind of scary.
	Because, you know, it's one thing to say, I'm not going to pay.
	It's another thing if you didn't file, and maybe like, oh, hey, dude, I'll work it off.
	You know, I think he owed a lot of money.
	He didn't file, didn't pay.
	But he's going to jail for three years.
	The Atlanta judge said, hey, look, you've appealed time enough now.
	It's time for you to start serving.
	You've got to go to jail.
	Yeah, well, the IRS does this every so often.
	They find the highest profile guy they can.
	They did it to James Brown, as you recall.
	Wow, I do remember that, yeah.
	And they do that.
	They find a guy high profile and make a big deal about sending him to jail.
	So everybody, all the slaves out there go, oh my God, if they could send Wesley Snipes to jail, what's going to happen to me?
	Exactly.
	Well, let me send Wesley a little bit of karma for a second here.
	You've got karma.
	He did go off the track a little bit, but he does everyone.
	Why do you send somebody to jail if they owe money?
	They can't pay it off in jail.
	This is like a pauper's prison.
	I thought they were outlawed, but the IRS seems to think this.
	They have argued that, well, no, it's better because it's a deterrent for other people because they see this guy go to jail.
	We're not sending everybody to jail.
	We can't afford to do that, but we're going to send him to jail.
	I agree with you completely.
	It makes no sense.
	The guy could be out there making...
	He could be working for the Ministry of Truth.
	He could do movies that say government's great, the feds are the best.
	They could use it for so many things.
	So many good things, positive.
	Now it's going to cost us...
	You get a celebrity like that, it's not $40,000 a year.
	It's going to be $200,000 a year because of all kinds of special stuff when he gets transported and PR and all that.
	It's going to cost a lot of money.
	It makes no sense.
	He can be a very productive member of society.
	Well, they think it's worth it.
	Speaking of such, I got a recommendation here from producer Jamie.
	I don't know if Jamie's a guy or a girl, but it says, In the morning, here's a line from the first chapter of a book, which is an old book from 1928, which I feel should be on the No Agenda Book List.
	So no agenda book club site producers take notes.
	Here's the opening line.
	The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.
	Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
	What book was that from, John?
	Power Elite, I don't know.
	Propaganda, written by Edward L. Bernays.
	Oh, another propaganda book.
	Yeah, 1928.
	The book is Propaganda, and I shall...
	Well, Bernays, that guy, is famous for being one of the fathers, if not the father, of modern public relations.
	Exactly.
	So what he's saying there is, if you can control the minds of the slaves through PR, Hill and Knowlton, we're on to you, then you are the true government.
	So I think this book warrants reading.
	I've actually run into PR people that...
	Who act like they're the government?
	Yeah.
	I mean, they actually, well, you know, people do what we tell them to, and I mean, it's just like, okay.
	That's great.
	I mean, we're just basically flies in the ointment, the two of us on our show.
	And I'm glad it wakes a lot of people up out there who are generous enough to help us continue doing this show.
	But the fact of the matter is, all you have to do is turn on the radio and you hear the four out of five, according to a CBS survey, don't think that the scanner's a big deal.
	Right.
	Well, you know, I see things happening and I think we are...
	We have forward motion.
	We have positive influence.
	Even people who strongly disagree with language often used on this program, in particular by me, are listening, enjoy it, feel better for it, and I think in combination with our talking points, we're actually going to...
	We will make some difference.
	Hey, if it has to go one human resource at a time, then that's what it'll take.
	Then we'll do it.
	As long as people keep supporting us, we'll do it.
	I think you've...
	I think generally speaking, even though somebody sent us a note in the other day about how depressed they were after they listened to the show all the time, the fact of the matter is the truth will set you free or even an angle on the truth or at least some free thinking is a good thing because it will improve your general, I think, your attitude overall because you'll see through a lot of things and you won't be distracted and attracted to like crap.
	And you'll also be able to, you know, because when you think for yourself on all levels, your job and creativity and job performance always increases.
	It's always a good thing for a personal, it's just a personal thing.
	I mean, you're better off is the point.
	I think you said it right at the top there.
	The truth shall set thee free.
	So talking about the truth, I've got a couple clips here that are kind of interesting.
	Okay.
	Are you familiar with the E-4B? E-4B? Boeing made four of them.
	Oh, it's an aircraft.
	No, I don't.
	Well, play the clip.
	E-4B doomsday plane.
	Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska.
	A highly trained crew races to battle stations aboard this militarized 747. 747.
	It looks like Air Force One, but it's not.
	It's called the E-4B. It's protected against nuclear blasts and can stay in the air for days.
	Armed security forces guard the plane 24-7.
	These pilots are some of the most experienced in the Air Force.
	Their only job right now is to get the E-4B off the ground as quickly as possible.
	This drill is called an alert response.
	They practice it at least once a week because every second counts.
	This is America's doomsday plane.
	It's the flying fortress from which the president could run the country and direct U.S. forces in the national emergency.
	Scrambling the E-4B is one critical part of the plans that kick into gear if America faces a doomsday scenario.
	We've done the math ahead of time so we know that they're going to roll out three miles ahead of us.
	These plans are shrouded in secrecy.
	Doomsday plans are among the most closely held secrets of the U.S. government.
	John, are you watching military porn again?
	Now, isn't this interesting?
	What channel do you think that was on?
	I would wager the military channel.
	National Geographic.
	Really?!
	We gotta scramble.
	We gotta scramble.
	Doomsday machine.
	And I like the guy's voice.
	The Doomsday machine.
	Play the Doomsday playbook and then we can go...
	The Doomsday.
	The Doomsday machine.
	What?
	The Doomsday playbook.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I didn't notice you had another...
	Oh, yeah.
	More military porn.
	I love it.
	...what the government should do in case of a Soviet nuclear attack.
	Every U.S. president since Dwight Eisenhower has contributed to them.
	The plans have evolved over the years to account for new threats, but the goal remains the same.
	Survival of the federal government.
	Doomsday plans ensure that we would be able to ride out any sort of crisis, not just a nuclear attack, but terrorist incidents.
	Otherwise, you've got just complete chaos after whatever event this is.
	It's the government's ultimate playbook.
	We've got the football.
	Hit on the doomsday machine.
	Alright, we're ready to go.
	Enable evil one.
	So yeah, chaos won't happen with the president flying around this thing.
	It's a 747 with anti-radiation paint, essentially.
	Well, they got other things.
	It's got a bunch of weird vents and things sticking out of it, and apparently a bunch of really old-fashioned computers that can't be taken up by EMPs.
	With punch cards.
	Pretty much.
	Cool.
	Speaking of EMPs, I just want to revisit...
	There's been a couple of interesting postings about the missile that was sent off that immediately, of course, was deemed a...
	It was like, oh, that's not a missile, that's a contrail.
	Actually, there was a contrail that flew across the New York skyline a day later, which was immediately deemed a contrail.
	But now there are other experts who are coming out and saying, this is contrary to what I thought, they're saying it was actually a Chinese missile.
	Which I think is an interesting spin.
	Yeah, this is Glenn Beck is the one who's promoting this idea, too.
	But the fact of the matter is, when we had the memos from the Navy saying there's going to be some, you know, stay out of the area ships...
	Well, it's interesting you bring that up because...
	What, were they doing it for the Chinese benefit?
	Well, one of our producers followed the link on the show notes from two shows ago to go to the equivalent, you know, the military site, the dot mill site, which...
	It posts the notice to the ships at sea, which is very much, I'm not quite sure what it's called, but we call them NOTAMs, Notice to Airmen for Aviation.
	And the link has been removed.
	The link to the report for that, actually the entire week has been removed from the military site.
	This is not typical, that you remove a notice to navigators.
	I've never seen it happen in aviation.
	You can go back years and find the exact weather conditions, the exact conditions of airfields, what was working wasn't what was.
	It's like critical evidence.
	Particularly in mishaps, that's immediately.
	It's like, hey, was there a report?
	Did we know about this?
	Well, how about this?
	So they remove all this and try to get rid of all the evidence and then let people like Glenn Beck go on and on about the Chinese so this has become a false flag exercise.
	Yeah, I'm down with that.
	I'm down with that.
	I'm totally down with that.
	What are the Chinese?
	Let's go over here and launch a missile.
	Please.
	Oh, nobody knows what it is?
	They'd go red alert.
	Well, one thing we know, it was not a contrail and we're being lied to.
	Because it just wasn't.
	In fact, the footage pictures have been cropped and changed.
	That the government is...
	I have a whole bunch of links about this.
	Oh, so they can get the little flame off the back of it off?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Oh, there's that little flame coming out of the back of it.
	How irritating.
	How irritating.
	Let's take that off.
	That's not right.
	Let's Photoshop that off.
	Let's remove that.
	Well, the whole thing is sketchy.
	And then there was something really weird that happened down under just the other day.
	I mean, like, really, really frickin' weird, which may not be related, but certainly worth mentioning.
	Something was in the air along the southeast Queensland coast early today.
	It showed up on the radar and turned the sky orange, but exactly what it was has everyone baffled.
	First Light and Byron Bay locals were the first to see their own UFO, an unidentified floating object.
	The sky was just completely orange, almost like misty.
	Just noticed like a smoky haze on the horizon.
	It was different from the normal salt haze that we get.
	Shown here on the Weather Bureau radar as a blue and purple smudge, it was first detected off the Sunshine Coast.
	We saw what looked to be a couple of showers forming off the Fraser Island coast at about 9pm last night and then in a very unweather-like pattern they started to spread out into a long stream.
	By dawn it was off Cape Byron so we decided to give chase in our chopper.
	We've been flying in the area for some time but we're no closer to solving the mystery.
	We simply can't find whatever it is out there.
	Early speculation suggested it could have been metallic particles known as chaff blasted into the air by RAAF jets to confuse radars.
	Confused Byron locals say military planes have been active in the area.
	Don't know whether they're Hornets or F-11s, but going straight past the lighthouse, so very quick and at eye level.
	The Defence Force confirmed Super Hornets were operating north of Brisbane last night, but say chaff wasn't used.
	You wouldn't get a body of chaff remain together and move for a very long period.
	It would be dispersed by the wind.
	Still, it's given those living across the border something to talk about.
	I woke up this morning and my room was just like bright orange.
	It was amazing.
	It was beautiful.
	Yeah, it was beautiful.
	So, of course, there's no other questioning about this.
	I mean, when the sky turns orange and it's visible on the radar as a cloud of orange, I think there would be some cause for concern.
	I always wonder about...
	You know what?
	Maybe the...
	I don't know.
	Unless the government...
	Sorry?
	What was that?
	Oh.
	You want to hear it again?
	Stay there's a ball.
	It's not much of a trail.
	It didn't fall into the ground.
	So, yes.
	After our show on Thursday...
	And I know we have a difference of opinion, but there were trails all over the house.
	All over the house?
	Yes, and they floated down.
	Inside?
	Yes, they floated down onto the house.
	I stood there and literally watched these contrails float down onto the house here, John.
	Did it relax you?
	I have a sore throat.
	No, and you know I wouldn't lie about this.
	So, what looks like a contrail.
	Maybe somebody, you sure they weren't just dumping fuel and you just happened to get it?
	That would give you a sore throat in a minute.
	Well, so they did it.
	I took a picture.
	Did it smell like JP, whatever they're using now, JP5, 6, whatever?
	No, you don't really smell anything.
	It didn't smell like kerosene.
	No, I took a picture.
	I know what kerosene smells like.
	I took a picture.
	There's two trails going parallel to each other, and then one weaves in and out between the other two, like the plane was doing a slalom.
	And then those three trails just floated down from the 26,000 feet where contrails are created, as anti-chem trailers will have you believe.
	And they floated all the way down to the ground.
	So I don't know what it is.
	Were you on LSD at the time?
	No.
	Come on.
	I'm serious here for a second.
	You do have photos you're going to put on the show notes.
	No, I'll put them in the show notes, but I already tweeted it.
	I blogged it.
	It's on my Flickr site.
	And another person who lives in the hills...
	Send me a link right now.
	Okay.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on.
	I will send you a link.
	And you tell me what you think it is.
	Hold on.
	Eric had a funny line about making, you know, instead of brining turkey, make turkey sous vide.
	What's sous vide?
	That's that slow cooking thing I bitched and moaned about in the whole show.
	Oh, right.
	Tepid water.
	Bacterial nightmare.
	That sounds not so good.
	Okay, hold on.
	So let me go to my Flickr site.
	Okay, and this is good.
	I actually do want you to take a look at this, and you tell me what you think this is.
	Wait, that's not the one I wanted.
	I think I only tweeted about it.
	Maybe I didn't put it on my...
	Yeah, I probably only tweeted about it.
	You don't have the photos.
	Yeah, I do.
	Just go to Twitter.
	I actually failed myself here.
	Go to Twitter.
	Go to Twitter slash Adam Curry.
	Yeah, no, let's do it.
	I mean, I'm very serious about this, okay?
	Twitter.com slash Adam Curry.
	Right, and go down a little bit.
	Adam Curry, live now, no agenda.
	And we go down.
	Picture of the day?
	No, we want to go to the 18th of November.
	I guess we hit some sore spots on no agenda today in the morning.
	And then you click on that and it's a twit pic.
	And you tell me what this is.
	18th of November.
	Oh, that one.
	Yeah.
	Now take a look at that picture.
	And you tell me.
	And you can see the hill across the way.
	So you can see how low these actually are.
	And you can see that it's kind of...
	That looks like a missile.
	Well, no, but you see, they disperse these contrails.
	They disperse, and look at it, it's in a curve.
	Yeah, it's weird.
	What is that?
	And look at the sky above it.
	It's all like trails of gunk and stuff, man.
	And that floated down onto the house.
	Now, we're at 823 feet here, so I'm estimating the picture you're seeing here is about 3,000 feet above sea level.
	Okay, I thought you had pictures of it floating down to the house that was visible.
	This is almost floating.
	The one that is dispersed here, that's probably only a thousand feet above me.
	I mean, I can take pictures as it comes all the way down.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea what that is.
	It looks weird.
	It doesn't look right.
	And maybe, yeah, maybe they're spraying you with insecticide for all I know.
	Well, I'm not too happy about it.
	I wouldn't be if that stuff was falling on my house.
	No, but it actually floats down and falls on the house, so it can't be a contrail.
	No, it has to be some sort of gunk.
	Not liking it.
	Anyway.
	Well, yeah, but what would it be specifically?
	Chemtrails!
	I'm saying specifically.
	Chemtrails is a generality.
	What do you think it is?
	Salt?
	Salt?
	No, barium, aluminium.
	What is that going to do to you?
	Make it crap?
	I don't know.
	Is barium good for you?
	Is aluminium good for you?
	I'm sure nothing is good for you.
	Is aluminium good for you?
	Because that's what people have measured in this stuff, is barium and aluminium.
	I don't know what aluminum does to you.
	It's controversial.
	A lot of people think aluminum has all kinds of negative effects on the body, but yet they still keep selling aluminum cookware.
	I'll tell you something.
	I don't use deodorant anymore.
	I use a healthy form of it, because otherwise I smell.
	But I don't use spray-on deodorant because it actually sprays aluminum right into your armpit, very sensitive area, and it goes into your body.
	I don't use it anymore.
	I don't use toothpaste with fluoride, and I feel pretty good.
	But when they're dropping stuff on my house, I'm not too happy about it.
	You're on the...
	Like a memo comes out.
	Yes.
	This guy stopped using perspirant and antiperspirant, and I noticed he stopped buying fluoride toothpaste.
	All right, well, just bomb him with the stuff.
	Well, you can make light of it, but I'm getting reports from everywhere around Gitmo Nation, and people are aware of this, and I've been watching the sky since I was a little boy, and I know the difference between the contrails.
	Okay, so what is it doing to you?
	You yourself say that it's still calming down.
	I don't see any evidence of that.
	We both have very sore throats.
	Well, that's not good.
	No, it's not good.
	Mickey has nodules in her throat, and I don't want to freak her out, but I think it is possibly from stuff that is being dropped.
	And by the way, we have the entire Hollywood water reservoir next to our house, which I'm sure it's not like they're like, let's get that bastard.
	I'm sure it's not me, but the water reservoir, yeah, I think that's a possibility.
	It's literally next to our house.
	Yeah, but why would you have to go through all that rigmarole and you can just send somebody down with a tanker truck and dump the stuff directly in?
	I don't have the answer.
	I don't have the answer.
	But I do know I get up at 5.30 in the morning, twice a week, and there's always a beautiful blue sky, except for this morning, of course.
	Beautiful blue sky, and I'll see nothing but streaks across the sky and they're just floating down to earth.
	That's all I know.
	I agree with you.
	It's a weird looking photo.
	It doesn't make any sense unless somebody launched a missile from the middle of the Hollywood Hills, which seems highly unlikely.
	No, because it didn't travel in that type of trajectory.
	Well, the thicker part of the thing is at the bottom, which indicates it would have been something that was launched.
	No, that's just as it dissipates, because it floats down, and then it starts to spread out.
	Yeah, but the part that's dissipating is the part where it began.
	No, no, no, that's just a piece in the middle.
	Oh, well, it looks like where it began.
	Well, it's very hard to capture.
	It's like capturing the Grand Canyon.
	You can't really understand it from the picture unless you're looking right at it.
	I try to take panorama pictures.
	It's very hard to really depict it.
	You can't show distance, you can't show altitude.
	I had one over the house that was similar to that some months back that I took a couple pictures of.
	It was impossible because the thing was like a mile wide and it just looked like, you know, it didn't look like, you couldn't, but you could see it was some sort of a...
	But it wasn't a contrail is all I want to hear.
	No, it was like something from a rocket.
	Right.
	Smoke.
	Okay.
	Hey, good news!
	It's about time.
	Bird flu was back.
	First time in seven years, human case.
	Hey, everybody.
	Where?
	In Hong Kong.
	Oh, great.
	Yep, first case of human bird flu.
	They're definitely trying to kill us with this bird flu.
	They just can't seem to get it into the wild yet.
	Well, you know, now that we have it in people again, that's the good news.
	So, you know, I think we need to up the TSA and we need to have the bird flu scanner for avian influenza.
	Cho came out again, your favorite girlfriend.
	Cho from the World Health Organization.
	Ugh, that idiot.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Let me bring up her quote here.
	I think she was in Time, the True Ministry of Truth.
	Hong Kong confirmed.
	Let's see.
	Here we go.
	Health Secretary.
	It doesn't even say of the World Health Organization.
	How good is time?
	Health Secretary York Chow.
	Is she the woman?
	No, it's Margaret something.
	Huh.
	Maybe they're related.
	This is, I think, one of our locals.
	It says, Hong Kong has confirmed its first case of human bird flu in seven years.
	I presume that would be the Hong Kong health secretary, York Chow.
	That could be.
	Probably brother of Margaret.
	Said late Wednesday, a 59-year-old woman had tested positive for H5N1 bird flu.
	So now we all know what H1N1. I tell you, H5 sounds a lot worse.
	With the announcement, the government raised the bird flu alert to Sirius, meaning there's a risk of contracting the disease within the territory.
	Chow said Hong Kong officials were meeting Thursday, would determine whether additional measures were needed to safeguard local residents.
	The bird flu first struck Hong Kong, 1997.
	You'll recall I was in Europe at the time of the avian bird flu, and wow, man, they were killing birds.
	Yeah.
	Everywhere.
	In fact, I lived on grounds that had tons of birds, and it came within two kilometers, the zone that had to be culled.
	And we were very worried that they would come on, guys in hazmat suits would come onto our territory and start killing our swans and stuff like that.
	And it was very, very frightening.
	So I do think, though, there's a possibility the media will jump on this because people are going to get very tired of the TSA talk.
	That's going to end.
	And this is how media works.
	And whenever someone says, what do you do?
	I say, I'm a media assassin.
	Nice to meet you.
	And usually people, by the way, say, oh, that's cool.
	We need more of you.
	Whatever you do, that sounds good.
	I believe that they will probably latch on to something like this.
	We need another scare.
	We need another distraction.
	And there's a good chance that the avian bird flu, the H5N1, will crop up this week in the media.
	So be on the alert for that.
	Yeah, we'll follow that.
	That is a bad one.
	No, it's definitely not fun.
	No, at 80% kill rate.
	Mm-hmm.
	Anything else you'd like?
	You've got some Stossel stuff.
	We want to do anything with that?
	Yeah, the Stossel stuff's kind of off the wall.
	We can do that next show.
	It's not that interesting.
	I think we're wrapping up here, aren't we?
	Yeah, I think we are.
	Is there anything else that was happening this week that was of...
	I mean, we didn't talk about the Carnival ship.
	Well, there's no news about it.
	No one's following it.
	Well, they took it and they put it in dry dock.
	It's going to stay there because of the fire for, what, months and months?
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, it needs a lot of repairs.
	That fire was so incredibly bad.
	I will say, by the way, some people did come out with their cell phones, so the EMP did.
	If you're inside of a ship and it's an outboard EMP, it might not penetrate the hull.
	Whatever the case was, there's a lot of people that still had their cell phones.
	Those things finally showed up on the net.
	Uh, photos of people yacking at themselves and showing the smoke.
	It was just basically black smoke coming off the stack and a little blue smoke coming out of a window.
	It was really minor.
	It doesn't seem like you'd have to keep the ship in the dock there.
	And where?
	San Diego, by any chance?
	Yeah, San Diego, of course, where the military action is taking place.
	So there's something still fishy about the story, and it's been completely...
	Talk about something disappearing off the front page news.
	It's gone.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yep, totally gone from the conversation, as is the rocket.
	Yeah.
	Well, the rocket's not completely gone because Beck went off the deep end this week about it, and he brought it back into the conversation, but even though it's just crazy...
	You know he's a cruising for one.
	Well, I don't know what it is.
	He's out of his way.
	Well, not when he's saying it's the Chinese thing.
	I mean, he may be actually...
	Delivering the message they want.
	Could be.
	You know, they hear them, scare them, the Chinese, all these Chinese, you're going to kill us, kind of thing.
	There's a lot of anti-Chinese stuff going on because of the trade war, that subtle trade war that's beginning.
	Oh, is this an actor thing?
	Well, there's a bunch of stuff going on, mostly about the monetary, the fact that no matter what we do...
	Yeah, that we've stolen their money by devaluing our currency.
	Yeah, that's one of the things.
	They're trying to make that claim.
	I don't know.
	It's a long story.
	Okay, we'll prepare for that.
	Two other things I'd like to mention.
	The GSMA on the tech front, that's the GSM Association, has now launched an initiative to remove the entire concept of SIM cards for future phones.
	What?
	Oh, yeah.
	No more SIM cards.
	Well, that's a disaster.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And of course there's two reasons for it.
	One is of course we don't want you, we want to tie you into our phones and service.
	That's essentially melding the two together.
	And the other one is you can't just buy a prepaid SIM card anymore.
	No more SIM card for you.
	So you have to buy a whole phone.
	So when I go to Germany with my GSM phone, and I want to get a local GSM card so I don't have to pay roaming charges that are just...
	I think you've experienced it, and other people have, that just happen to get...
	Keep their old SIM card running and they come back home and it's a $10,000 phone bill.
	I want to go to the post office and grab a German SIM card from Deutsche whoever and put it in there and it cost me like $40 and I can make local calls.
	I can't do that anymore because...
	No service for you!
	Interesting.
	And then I'm so happy to read this article, which is in the Register.
	Outstanding publication, by the way.
	I think the Register is generally pretty good.
	They have an article here about what companies in the cloud, which I have now pretty much successfully migrated off of, except for, obviously, file hosting.
	But certainly my email is now off the cloud.
	What companies charge for government surveillance.
	Google charges $25 per user.
	And of course, everyone's just focused on the money.
	And Microsoft is even more interested.
	They charge nothing.
	They're just like, yeah, here it is.
	What do you want?
	And that's for wiretaps, pen registers.
	It's a big moneymaker for these guys.
	The money in the cloud is by selling the information to the feds.
	$25, Google gets.
	Yahoo charges $29.
	And there are millions of these.
	Millions!
	No wonder the cloud's so popular.
	Yeah.
	And what's wrong with Microsoft?
	Do they get their heads up their butts?
	They don't know how to make easy money?
	I don't know.
	I don't understand why they're not charging.
	It's crazy.
	They should get on that train, man.
	You guys nuts or something?
	But it just goes to show that these companies are more than willing to hand over your email for anything.
	They get a subpoena, they've got a whole process, there's been plenty of articles about it, and they, oh, there's another 28, if you're Yahoo, well, Yahoo Mail, everybody, there's another 29 bucks.
	Oh yeah, what, Mr.
	Fed, you want the email?
	Oh, here it is.
	Here, take the email.
	No problem.
	So I'm resurrecting my use of PGP. Feel free to send me encrypted emails.
	Even if it's just to say hi, it's not a problem anymore.
	It's really easy.
	Well, that's good.
	Yeah, well, I'm doing my best.
	All right, well, I'll send you a PGP encrypted message one of these days.
	Just a thought, John.
	I mean, most of our messages back and forth, hey, did you see this?
	Oh, no.
	Look at this link.
	That secret C-SPAN program I was watching.
	Says that all comes out on the show.
	Well, all my chemtrail pictures I'm going to encrypt when I send them to you, though.
	I don't want that getting out of anywhere.
	And by the way, your ISP is not immune from this.
	Oh yeah, I know.
	Okay, I'm just saying.
	So anyone who sends me something encrypted, it's as safe as can be.
	And next step, I'm going to encrypt my hard drive, which I'm very worried about, but okay, we'll just have to go for it.
	It shouldn't be too hard.
	No, no, but if it messes up, it's bad.
	Well, back everything up and run a drive crypt is the program everyone uses.
	Okay.
	Although they took a couple of the methods off, which is kind of annoying.
	All right.
	All right, everybody.
	We will be back Thursday, Thanksgiving morning.
	And as usual, coming to you from the Chemtrailed Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the Buzzkill Bunker here in northern Silicon Valley, where there was thunder and lightning, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back here on Thursday on No Agenda.

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