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May 12, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Tidal wave of lawsuits coming against dangerous vaccine mandates - Thomas Renz interviewed by Mike A
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I mean, you've got a revolving door between the people working at the CDC, BHHS, and pharmaceutical companies.
You know, they go from one to the other.
They make all sorts of money.
And, you know, there's apparently no problem with that.
Just look the other way.
It is one of the most corrupt and sickening industries.
Two years ago, I thought, Mike, I'm going to apologize to you.
I apologize to Sherry Tenpenny.
Two years ago, I thought you all were crazy anti-vaxxers.
I've dug into this.
I have dug and dug and dug.
Still, two years later, I cannot fathom the corruption I found in this.
It is the most sickening thing in the world.
Welcome, everyone, to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, and today we have a first-time guest, but you've probably seen his videos on Brighteon.
His name is Thomas Renz, and he's with Renz Law, and the website is renz-law.com, and he is, in fact, doing what I believe to be some of the most important legal work of our time in countering the vaccine agenda,
the extermination agenda, I call it, Thank you, Thomas.
Thank you, Thomas.
Sir, to have you on, I think you're doing extremely important work.
How about, I mean, where do we begin?
Can you give people an overview of the big case you're working on right now?
So the big one that everybody's talking about at the moment is the frontline doctor's case.
And we're suing the DHHS for the injunction against their EUA. EUA stands for Emergency Use Authorization.
And basically, there are rules and guidelines that you've got to follow when you issue an emergency use authorization.
They didn't follow them.
I don't know how else to say it.
I mean, just, yeah, the speed limit's 55, they've 170.
So they broke the law.
It's very clear.
There's no question.
So we're suing them and we're saying that, listen, the EUAs need to be revoked until such time as they actually follow the law and, uh, That's the big thing.
Can you be specific about what they violated in terms of issuing the emergency authorization?
Well, they violated a lot, to be honest.
So we focus on a few different things.
One being informed consent.
There is no informed consent.
There actually can't be informed consent right now.
The government's got, we believe, about 12 different mechanisms by which they collect information about injuries and deaths related to this vaccine.
They keep them all hidden except for one, VAERS. Now VAERS, we know, only reports between 1% and 10%.
Of the actual injuries that occurred.
So the question would be, how can you give informed consent if you don't know how dangerous this drug is?
Now, they have the information, and the question I would ask is, if you don't have anything to hide, why are you hiding it?
Why are you telling it's safe and effective, but you're not actually sharing the information?
Well, and also, wait a second.
There's not even a mechanism that's being used to give people informed consent at injection sites.
I've talked to many people.
They said there was no paper with an explanation.
They didn't have to sign any list of possible side effects.
Nothing like that.
It's just not even happening.
No, not at all.
I mean, listen, they have a legal obligation, in every sense of the word, to make sure that people have it.
And they have not just skirted this, they've just egregiously broken this law.
It's insane.
We actually, so a while back, and I'm sure it needs updated, but I worked with a couple of doctors and we put together what informed consent should look like.
We posted it on my website.
That includes discussion about the fact that this is experimental.
It's not truly approved, it's only authorized.
You know, you could die, you could become impotent, you could have, you know, all sorts of neurological issues, all these different things.
It isn't happening.
No one in their right mind would get it.
What about the conflating of the term, quote, approved?
Because we see the president, his wife, the mainstream media repeatedly referring to all of these vaccines as being approved by the FDA. But they're not.
No, no.
They're not even sort of approved.
They aren't even close.
And in fact, They're breaking their own guidelines and rules by continuing to expand the authorization.
The authorization is something where, you know, if there's a real crisis, a real emergency, they can push a drug through, right?
But in a very limited way, with all sorts of protections, because it's not tested, it's not safe, it's not effective, we don't know what it is, it's just there.
There's been no long-term studies on this, we don't know what it is.
But they keep flouting this.
And here's the secret, right?
The politicians are saying it because they're trying to hide behind government immunity.
If Pfizer or Moderna advertised or said the things that Biden or Fauci or these others are saying, they would be sued immediately for just incalculable damages.
Speaking of that, a whistleblower came to you alleging that the government has evidence that at least 45,000 people have already died from these vaccines.
There are multiple databases that feed into the VAERS system.
And we saw about a week ago, I think 6,000 deaths were just deleted from VAERS. And they said, oh, it was the wrong data.
So they had to remove the 6,000.
But could you give us any update or maybe just an overview of what this 45,000 number is all about and where it came from?
Yeah, so I mean, there's some of it we've got to keep very secret because we're very much trying to protect the identity of our whistleblower.
I mean, she'll definitely face retaliation.
But what I can tell you is she has access to the CMS servers.
and data and based on that access she attested under penalty of perjury that she believes that there has been over 45,000 deaths.
Now breaking news for today, I had a conversation this morning with another data analyst and he said that he would attest in public record under penalty of perjury that the only thing wrong with her declaration is that it's probably a lot higher.
So we haven't filed that yet, but I think it's safe to say we did our due diligence.
That number is a very conservative number.
But just to be clear, that number is not an extrapolation of some other number.
Let's say the number in the database is really 4,500 theoretically.
It's not just extrapolating and saying, well, it only represents 1 out of 10.
You're saying that this 45,000 number is a hard recorded number of deaths.
Is that correct?
So, I'm going to dodge this a little bit.
I'm always real honest about things.
I'm dodging it a little bit because I don't want to talk too much about the details because I don't want anybody figuring out or reverse engineering where she came from.
Right.
We don't want to expose her at all.
What I'll tell you about that is we were very careful.
She was involved in writing that declaration, and the language used was that.
I will also tell you that that data and her information was double-checked by a number of people.
We have a number of people who believe that 45,000 is correct or low.
And who would attest to that in court?
So what I will do is I will say that I will absolutely stand behind that number as being, if anything, on the conservative side.
I will tell you that it is based on the experts that I've spoken to and everyone else, that the actual number is probably 100,000 or more.
That's interesting you say that because I've interviewed, you know, many, many doctors and health professionals and so on.
A hundred thousand is the lowest number that I hear when I ask them the question of where we are in terms of deaths.
Some are estimating as many as half a million right now with the number climbing.
Now, of course, we can't know for sure what that number is.
And there are efforts to obfuscate that number, as you've alluded to, by the government itself.
And people who are speaking out against this may have legitimate reason to fear for their safety and even their lives.
Because it seems like people are not just having their livelihoods destroyed, but there have also been some rather mysterious deaths, executions, perhaps, obfuscations.
I mean, who knows?
But you do need to keep your clients safe.
I'm glad you're doing that.
But this is serious business because there are powerful interests at play here right now.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, I mean, listen, you've got people.
So here's what we know.
We know that last winter, according to CDC statistics, At least 250,000 people who were called COVID deaths had influenza and pneumonia.
We know that influenza is indistinguishable from COVID. So they were probably mischaracterized or miscategorized people who actually came in and had the flu.
They came in, they had the flu, they didn't get treatment.
The reason they didn't get treatment is because you got more money for the COVID diagnosis than you did the flu.
So these people, instead of being treated for something that's a perfectly treatable disease, We're allowed to get worse, develop pneumonia, and die, which is the exact same pathology you have for COVID-19.
So if we've got people who are willing to let 250,000 people die from a treatable disease for money, power, whatever their motive is, yeah, I think that we do have to be careful.
We do have to be cautious.
You said something there that I think is key.
You said that symptoms of influenza may be indistinguishable from what they're calling COVID. Now, the recent revoking of a PCR test protocol by the CDC just announced on their website A couple of days ago, they said on December 31, coming up of this year, that assay PCR test will be revoked.
And then they said in their explanation that future tests need to, and I'm paraphrasing, they need to do a better job of distinguishing between influenza and COVID. Did you see that announcement?
Did you catch that language?
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm aware of that.
So we have one of our cases that doesn't quite get as much press but is really important is challenging PCR and data.
And we're challenging it directly.
I mean we know COVID is a disease.
It's a collection of symptoms, right?
The PCR testing can't test for that.
The only thing PCR testing can test for is the presence of some pieces of SARS-CoV-2.
But pieces of SARS-CoV-2 does not necessarily mean you have or had or will ever have COVID-19.
So it doesn't work.
It just doesn't work at all.
We know that.
It's established.
It's science.
It's fact.
So, you know, the idea that That we can distinguish between COVID and the flu based on PCR is nonsense.
And since the symptoms, as laid out by the CDC, are almost identical, you can't do it by diagnosis either.
So they just miscategorized a lot of flu deaths and let people die.
Well, again, you've just hit on something just massive here.
The PCR tests are a fraud.
We have a case-demic of fraudulent, really a hoax.
And, you know, Thomas, this is the first time you and I have ever talked.
So I don't know if you know that I own and run an ISO-accredited science lab.
Where we do analytical quantitative testing for food science or food contaminants.
We use triple-quad mass spec instruments, ICP-MS, and so on.
And in all of that testing, we're able to derive quantitative measurements, such as how many micrograms of glyphosate are present in a gram of the original food sample.
So we'll get micrograms per gram or micrograms per milliliter, for example.
These are quantitative results.
I met with Thermo Fisher PCR representatives many months, it was last year actually, and we were trying to purchase their PCR equipment for food science testing to test foods for the genetic fingerprint of food contaminant pathogens, okay?
And they told me on the record, I've since confirmed this, PCR cannot provide any quantitative results whatsoever.
It is not a quantitative test.
Can't tell you how much of anything is in anything.
It can only tell you if there's one or more fragments.
It could be a trillion, it could be one, could be two.
If someone's carrying one fragment of COVID, that's nothing.
We're all carrying one fragment of probably everything.
And you have a molecule of glyphosate in you.
You have a molecule of alcohol while you're driving down the highway.
Doesn't mean you're a drunk driver, right?
Right.
I mean, that's absolutely correct.
And, you know, that's the reason...
That they have to run these things at 45 cycles, even though they know it gives a 97% false positive rate or more.
Plus, isn't it odd?
We run these for COVID tests at 45 cycles, these PCR tests, cycles being times of amplification, whereas for breakthrough cases, we're only running at 28 cycles.
I wonder why that is.
Well, right, but I have a question for you.
I mean, you're obviously a very intelligent person.
People tend to think of, say, doctors and lawyers as being high IQ people, and they typically are.
The doctors and the lab technicians running the PCR instruments, Thomas, they must know what I just explained.
They have to know that these are fraudulent diagnoses.
You can't calculate a viral load based off a PCR positive.
How can they be in on it?
So many of them in on it.
How can they abandon all science to push this fraud?
Well, I mean, it's been done on a very broad scale.
The problem is, is when they do speak out, they're censored.
I mean, they get fired and they're censored.
That's kind of a universal thing.
So I'll tell you how I really think this shook out.
We passed Obamacare, okay?
And Obamacare consolidated and removed private practitioners from the world of medicine.
So if you work in healthcare now, except for a few, you know, unique situations, you work for a major hospital system.
And if you work for that hospital system and don't want to get blackballed from every other system, you do it, you tote the line.
So these guys, you know, this has really been a top-down thing.
When you consolidate healthcare and that kind of power into a few hands, It becomes a lot easier to manipulate and control.
So when people have spoken out, you know, I mean, AFLDS, Simone, you know, she spoke out, she got fired.
You know, you talk about these doctors all over the country, when they've spoken out, they get fired.
That's what happens.
So, you know, then they're discredited, the media covers them up, Facebook throws them off, and there's no way to get the message out.
So this has really been a combination of I guess I can't stress the importance of censorship in this whole scheme, because but for the censorship, none of this happens.
Yeah, that's a really good point, because doctors used to be trained to be independent thinkers and to look at each patient as an individual.
And also to apply local context and perhaps cultural issues in the local community that might be affecting people, such as knowing that farmers may have different medical challenges versus sedentary city dwellers, things like that.
But today, it's a one-size-fits-all, and today the vaccine is a must for everyone, no exceptions, and nothing other than the vaccine is acceptable.
So doctors aren't allowed to talk about vitamin D or zinc or quercetin or, you know, God forbid, ivermectin.
You know, it's beyond insane, but this isn't medicine anymore.
It's some kind of weird obedience camp, like a medical fascist dictatorship training operation.
That's not medicine.
No, no, it's not.
And let me tell you a little bit more about this, you know?
The hospital CEOs and leadership run the show.
Well, there's not many of those now because it's all consolidated.
And so let's look at what's happening here.
We've got the federal government that doesn't have any money, so they print more money, right?
They print the money and they hand it to Big Pharma.
Big Pharma provides kickbacks to the government that just printed the money through, you know, sweetheart deals with family members and campaign donations and other things like that.
I mean, pharma is the biggest lobby in the world.
And then at the same time, they provide kickbacks to the hospital systems for pushing their wares.
So you've got both sides covered by the money that we're printing.
And meanwhile, no one's bothering to read the law or complaining about the law because at the same time, the government includes a sweet little deal where everybody gets $2,000 to sell their freedom and say thank you for the bill.
It's really a sick thing.
You also said something else super important, Mike.
You mentioned the one-size-fit-all.
Well, you know, I'm sure you know this.
I don't know if the audience knows this.
These big hospital systems, they've hired operations managers, Six Sigma people, people who look at you, a patient, as a product.
You're not a patient, you're a product.
Doctor, you've got 15 minutes with this product.
And we expect you to sell the following wares.
And when you look at the computer and you type in what's wrong, it's gonna spit out, here's what you can do for it.
And you'll follow those guidelines or you'll be fired.
And those guidelines are gonna be based not on the best outcome for the patient, but on the best profit for the hospital.
Exactly.
Exactly.
No, you've nailed it.
But really what you've described here, with the money printing, government paying now tens of billions of dollars to the vaccine companies that are offering kickbacks to the government through lobbying and campaign contributions, I mean, come on.
This is racketeering organized crime and money laundering operations.
That's what this is.
Yeah.
There should be criminal prosecutions or investigations underway, obviously, but there's no willingness of any DA, it seems, or certainly not the DOJ. They're all in the pocket of Big Pharma, but there's no willingness to go after these companies for their criminal purposes.
And one last thought is most of these vaccine manufacturers have a history of admitting to criminal felony crimes in settlements with the DOJ and state attorneys general as well.
They've all admitted to being criminal operations.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, our best hope is finding a state AG that has the courage to do something because the feds aren't going to do anything and they're all trying to hide behind immunity.
I mean, I'm going to sue everybody.
I'm just going to keep suing everybody, you know, forever.
But yeah, it just takes time and there aren't enough people doing this.
Well, I'm glad to hear you say that.
And by the way, you're an inspiration to so many people out there because there's this sense that, my God, humanity is just being attacked and suffocated and there's this lawlessness and everything.
But people like you are fighting back.
But let me ask you a skeptical question.
I think it's important on the record.
Who funds your efforts?
You have staff costs and so on.
How are you getting funded to do this?
Well, the media told me I'm getting rich off of it.
I missed that.
I got to be honest with you, I kind of missed that.
If anybody wants to make me rich off of it, I'm happy.
But, you know, if you gave me a million dollars, I'd hire more attorneys to help me with this.
And that's kind of what we need to do.
Funding is generally from we the people.
I mean, people donating to my partners who pay me.
I just started here with a couple of partners.
We just started for GodFamilyCountry.org, which is a charity that we're hoping will allow us to fund more legal fights.
Make Americans Free Again and Frontline Doctors are clients.
I got clients that pay me some money.
But, you know, to be real honest with you, I'd get laughed at if I told you what I make off of this.
I can assure you it's just not real good and the net on it is not great.
Well, yeah, and it's interesting.
The media, I've seen, they've run hit pieces on various people who are making, like selling supplements or what have you, but they never talk about how much money the tens of billions going to Big Pharma for their unproven, you know, proven deadly experimental injections.
You know, I mean, you want to talk about the real money being made.
It's the vaccine manufacturers, and then they're granted legal immunity.
And by the way, I don't mean to get into firearms necessarily, but I think it was, it might have been Schumer or Cuomo or somebody who said, they said that, oh, the gun industry is the only industry where they have liability for their products and you can't sue them.
I was thinking, are you kidding me?
Have you looked at big pharma lately?
Yeah, I mean, we created a system where, listen, you can make a product and no matter how dangerous or how bad it is, you can't be sued for it.
And so what's the incentive for them to make good products?
Why?
I mean, you make the cheapest crap you can.
Stick some antifreeze in a needle, call it a vaccine, and then, you know, you get paid for it.
And so what if someone dies from it?
Who cares?
And that's really the attitude here.
I mean, and plus, look at this.
So, meantime, you've got co-ownership of intellectual property rights by Fauci, who's supposed to be protecting us.
How does that work?
I mean, you've got a revolving door between the people working at the CDC, DHHS, and pharmaceutical companies.
You know, they go from one to the other.
They make all sorts of money.
And, you know, there's apparently no problem with that.
Just look the other way.
It is one of the most corrupt and sickening industries.
Two years ago, I thought, Mike, I'm going to apologize to you.
I apologize to Sherry Kenpenny.
Two years ago, I thought you all were crazy anti-vaxxers.
I've dug into this.
I have dug and dug and dug.
Still, two years later, I cannot fathom the corruption I found in this.
It is the most sickening thing in the world.
Oh, so you followed the white rabbit down the hole.
Well, that's interesting.
Yeah, because any rational person who looks at the evidence of what's going on would probably share your current conclusion, which is that it's incredibly criminal and corrupt.
The problem is Big Pharma, you know, I could say owns the media.
What I mean is they provide the majority of the advertising revenue to the media.
But that even goes back to 1997 when the FDA legalized direct-to-consumer drug advertising, which allowed the media to then receive all this funding from Big Pharma.
So then from that day forward, Big Pharma controlled the narrative because it was always about profits.
So the corruption's gone back, you know, a generation now.
And how do we get out from under this when pharma funds the legislature, pharma funds big tech with advertising money, and then they protect the big pharma narrative.
Pharma runs the med schools, controls the doctors, controls the science journals, the medical journals, which fabricate fake studies to attack ivermectin, for example, in order to clear the way for vaccine mandates.
And so, you know, how this is a dangerous, not just a monopoly, it's domination, right?
It certainly is.
And you forgot PDUFA, the Prescription Drug User Fee Act, passed in the 90s.
You know, the pay-to-play system, so not only could they pay off the elected officials, but now they can pay off the administrative officials.
I mean, the swamp is deep.
Listen, there is one thing that these people all fear, and that's we the people.
And I'm going to tell you the most important thing that I can tell you about me.
I am nobody important.
I am a single guy.
I was answering my own phone until a few months ago.
I am a solo practitioner from a tiny town in Ohio.
I am a nobody.
I want everybody hearing this to understand.
I am a nobody.
The reason that you hear about me is that I fought.
I had the courage and the backbone to fight.
And you know, that's what we need.
Because guess what?
If 10, 20, 30% of our country wakes up and actually says no, hell no, We win this big.
That's how we break the monopoly.
That's how we break the backbone.
Because ultimately, the thing that these bad guys fear is we the people.
That's why they've been attacking the United part of the United States so badly for the last couple years.
Because if they can turn us against each other, if they can hide the truth and make you suspicious of your brother and sister Americans, they can destroy us.
And that's really what's going on.
Well, I want to bring something in on this because a lot of other insiders that I talk to and with off-the-record type of comments, I'm told that the reason the administration and the governments around the world are accelerating their push for mass vaccination right now is because they know the window of obedience Will be slammed shut the minute the wave of post vaccination deaths really kicks in,
which many people believe in the northern hemisphere will happen during the flu season, January, February of next year.
But that's just a guess.
Nobody knows for sure.
But what what they're telling me is that that this mad rush is Literally, and I'm not saying that you share this view, but they're saying that this is an agenda to mass exterminate as many people as possible because dead people don't protest, because dead people don't sue.
So if they can kill as many as possible, they can really limit the backlash that they know is coming anyway.
What would your thoughts be on that kind of accusation or theory?
Yeah, I'm an evidence guy, right?
And I've seen evidence that I prefer to have not seen.
I kind of wish I could unswallow the red pill at some point.
I'd swallow it again.
That's what I do.
No, they can give you a blue pill and insert you back into the matrix.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think it'll work.
I'll end up swallowing it again.
But, you know, here's the thing.
Yes, on a lot of that.
I don't have any smoking gun evidence I can use for the depopulation theory, but what I can tell you is this.
I agree wholeheartedly that there is a window, and once all the vaccinated people start dying, you can only cover this up so long, right?
So my scientists are telling me that they think that the true number of vaccinated in America is around 30%.
That low?
Yeah, we can't find any data supporting a higher number than that.
I mean, if they've got it, they're hiding it.
And, you know, maybe they do.
We can't prove that.
But just based on the data we've seen, it looks to be around that 30 percent number.
So what's going to happen this fall when cold and flu season?
Well, everybody's going to get re-exposed.
Everybody's going to start dying.
But it's only going to be the people who are vaccinated.
No matter how much they covered up in the media, when everyone that you talk to, hey, your cousin's in the hospital dying from COVID, wasn't he vaccinated?
Yeah.
You weren't vaccinated.
Why are you okay?
Because I wasn't vaccinated.
Eventually, this is going to come out, right?
So I think that one of the things I've heard, so we went pretty viral with that 45,000 number.
On kind of a global level, and by the way, you know, hashtag 45k, get it out there.
Keep pushing it.
But one of the things that we were told is that this was always the plan for the fall, right?
I've been talking for a while.
We'll see this vaccine variant really rearing its head in the fall.
They're going to try and say it's a new, more dangerous variant.
It's not.
It's just the vaccine.
And they're going to lie about it and try and scare people into submission.
That was always the plan.
We've been told, we've heard rumors that when we came out with that 45k, it really shook things up and that they essentially kind of panicked and have expedited things.
So last week we announced the 45k, this week You see this massive push and this and that and the other.
So, you know, I don't know if that's an accurate portrayal of what's going on or not.
That's just what we've been told.
What I'll tell you is the truth is coming out.
I got a whole bunch more coming in the near future.
My team has a ton more.
And by the way, I'm not suicidal.
I love life.
So, you know, P.S., if you abstain me, please investigate.
We have a lot more coming, and they can't keep this covered up forever.
It's going to come down, and as it does, heads are going to roll, and they're just hoping they can get this in as many arms as possible ahead of time.
Well, I think you're absolutely right.
That's actually really quite a relief to hear from you that there's more coming.
But it brings in mind, you know, battlefield tactics of what they're doing.
So they, the vaccine engineers and pushers and who I would call the depopulation anti-humanists, But those are my words, not yours, obviously.
But they are willing to risk the entire future of the reputation of science, medicine, vaccines, public health, government, everything, in order to jab and perhaps kill as many people as possible right now.
So what does that tell you, you know, by inference?
They are willing to throw the credibility of every institution under the bus in order to get as many people as possible injected.
What does that tell you?
I mean, just by inference, they fear something bigger than losing all credibility.
And I've been trying to get my head around this.
What is it that they fear that's even worse to them than seeing the total destruction of the public trust of all their institutions?
I don't know the answer, but that's clearly what they fear.
Well, you know, I'm going to tell you, a lot of the stuff that I've seen and know, and like I said, this is crazy from some guy from Ohio.
I've seen stuff and know stuff now that, frankly, I'm never going to make it public.
I would lose all credibility.
You'd think I was nuts, but I've seen the pictures.
I've seen the documents.
And, you know, that stuff...
There's more going on here than what people know.
Yeah, you don't have to elaborate.
I kind of get a sense of what you've seen because this is deep.
This is deep.
This is good and evil, man.
We win or we lose it all.
And that's why I'm fighting.
Well said.
You know, on that note, by the way, if people want to support your efforts, what are the best organizations they could donate to that are supporting your staff and your costs?
Well, you can donate.
Let me tell you what the first thing you can do is.
I'm a Christian guy.
I'm Catholic.
First thing you can do, don't touch me on my Pope.
He's not mine.
The first thing you can do is you can pray.
That's the first thing.
The second thing, if you want to donate, you can donate at ForGodFamilyCountry.org.
You can donate to Make Americans Free Again.
You can donate to America's Frontline Doctors.
If you're in Ohio, Ohio stands up.
But let me tell you what's really, really important here.
You've got to get active.
REMS-Law.com, we've got a lot of information there.
Get active, right?
And this is local, right?
We've got to take our cities, our counties, our towns back.
The fight has to start at the bottom and work its way up.
So you've got people like me who are running around in our suits trying to be important and do our big things, and maybe that works, maybe it doesn't.
It's a tough fight.
I'll tell you it's an uphill battle.
But the important thing is that people get active and they start fighting from the ground up.
If people start from the ground up and we're fighting from the top down, let's meet in the middle, right?
Pincer movement, right?
And that's it.
Trust God, trust family, trust country, fight for it.
Well, I completely agree with you.
And in my own analysis of the tipping point of when that happens, we're not quite there yet because I think that, I don't know if it's just human nature, but most people only learn through pain and suffering.
And so it's going to take until the day that the mass deaths really kick in, and then a lot of people will be in the streets peacefully protesting and so on.
But until that day comes, I've been shocked at how obedient the sheeple are.
In fact, I think we have a story with a headline.
COVID has proven, or COVID obedience has been 49% effective.
I can't believe people go along with all this.
No, it's terrifying.
I don't understand it, so I'm going to tell you, for me personally, I don't care if you hate my guts.
The only thing, I care more about respect than what I think about you, right?
And I cannot respect a coward.
If you're watching this, if you're too afraid to speak out, if you're too afraid to tell someone what you think, I don't mean being rude.
You don't have to be obnoxious, but if you don't stand for something, if you're watching this and you're aware of what's going on and you're too afraid to tell your neighbor, you're too afraid to call your congressman or your state rep or your local rep, if you're too afraid to get involved, you're a coward.
You've got to stand for something.
We've got to stand.
This is the time for us to fight.
You know, listen, I'm sorry.
I know this is difficult.
But if there's ever gonna be something that we gotta stand for, it's this.
It's this.
I mean, if you don't control your body, if you don't have freedom and autonomy over your own health, what do you have freedom over?
You are a prisoner.
Well, on that point, Thomas, as we were talking, a piece of news just came in here.
CNN has now broadcast a demand, I think it was Don Lamon, broadcast a demand that unvaccinated people should not be allowed to shop for food.
I mean, think about the human rights violations of that, but that's now on CNN and probably will be picked up by Biden, that you're going to be forced to starve to death if you don't take the vaccine.
I mean, how is this not an act of war against the American people?
Well, I mean, go ahead and try and stop me, because I can tell you I'm not going to get the shot, and I can tell you I'm not going to stop shopping for food, and I'm going to tell you that if Don Lemon thinks that the vaccines made him safe, why is he worried about what other I've got it or not?
I think he should go get three more boosters, and, you know, we'll watch his head spin around and fall off, and then everything will be fine.
You know, I don't care.
You know, these people are so stupid and sick, and they think that the people of America are this stupid.
It's a vaccine, right?
A vaccine vaccinates you against and inoculates you against catching whatever it is it inoculates you against.
Not this one.
This is the vaccine that makes you more likely to get it.
By the way, I heard a report.
It's unconfirmed yet in my mind, but I saw a report.
100% I'm sorry, a British aircraft carrier was vaccinated.
We covered that.
And they have the highest percentage of outbreak of COVID of anyone anywhere.
How's that possible if it's unvaccinated spreading it?
These people are stupid and or liars.
I'm not, you know, like I said, Don, please.
You go get seven more vaccination booster shots.
I can't wait.
You let me know how that goes for you.
You'll save humanity by calling the herd a bit.
Speaking about the boosters that you just mentioned, that reminded me, Walensky of the CDC, the director, had said in the media, on the record, that something like, quote, we are just one or two mutations away from the original vaccines being useless or obsolete against the new variants.
Now, that's a paraphrase.
It's not an exact quote, but it's very, very close.
She is saying publicly now that the people who took the original vaccine, to whom all of these promises were made, that you will be free.
You will be safe.
Biden says it works 100%.
But the CDC director is now saying that all of that was for nothing because the virus is going to out-mutate that original vaccine.
You're going to have to go back to masks and social distancing.
Isn't that an admission that they have utterly failed?
They have no tools against this.
Yeah, so she's a liar and a fraud.
I don't know what else to say about it.
I mean, you know, I kind of like this analogy.
You know how when you're playing poker, some people have tells, you know, hey, I got a real winner here, so it'll itch your ear or something?
And the analogy I use is you can tell if the DHS people, particularly Fauci, you can tell if they're lying because they always have a tell.
And it's that their mouth is open, right?
If their mouth is open, they're lying.
So that's how you tell.
That's what you want to look at.
Yeah, no kidding.
No kidding.
But, you know, it makes me wonder, again, back to the sheeple question, how much of this will the American people tolerate?
Because, oh, now it's back to masks.
And now they're masking children who have virtually zero risk of any kind of hospitalization, injury, or death from COVID, whatever that turns out to actually be.
Are the American people just going to, I mean, 10 years down the road, we go, oh, it's mask version 10!
You know, I mean, oh, and booster number 75 for those of us still living.
How much will they put up with?
Well, I mean, you know, I think that we're hitting that point right now.
I think this stuff, I think they've gone way overboard this week.
I think next week they'll end up walking a lot of this back.
You know, I saw...
Walking what back?
What do you mean?
Well, I think that there's going to be such a strong backlash to these overstatements this week and we're going to force this.
I mean, listen, go ahead, DeWine.
You force every civil employee in the federal government to have to get this vaccine.
By the way, I've got a recording of a DHHS employee, I'm not going to tell you which department, lamenting how dangerous this vaccine is and the fact that You know, people don't know about it, and they don't understand it, and they have no idea how deadly it is.
The HHS employee, go ahead.
Go ahead.
You keep pushing this, and you go ahead and try that one, because guess what?
You have a constitutional interest in your job if you're a federal employee, and I can tell you there's probably a good number of lawyers just waiting for them to do something that stupid.
So I think you're going to have to see some of this walk back.
Well, actually, that's a question I want to ask you.
Aren't there, I mean, I don't know if you hear this from other attorneys, but Biden's about to announce the vaccine mandate for all federal employees.
Aren't there going to be like 5,000 lawsuits immediately of federal employees who say, wait a second, you can't force me to take this.
It's experimental.
I absolutely think that's the case.
I mean, I think it's about as clear as nay.
Especially in light of the potential for religious issues.
I mean, every one of these vaccines includes aborted fetal cell lines.
I don't see any way on the planet.
The argument for private employers is a lot more tricky than federal employers.
For federal employers particularly, I think that is a tough, tough, tough one.
I don't I think that's just a really bad idea, unless they're just looking to lose the case.
But it seems like they...
What's happened in our government now is just a complete abandonment of any...
Adherence to the rule of law or even, you know, fairness, ethics, morality.
I mean, look, I mean, even the American Medical Association, I have their handbook here, a big book, and they have a whole section on informed consent.
And if you read it, they're blatantly violating that because they issued an announcement with dozens of other health agencies or health organizations saying that all doctors, nurses and health care workers should be forced vaccinated.
They said that in violation of their own freaking manual.
So are there any standards anymore?
Well, the AMA standard is based on the kickbacks from the pharmaceutical industry.
I mean, look at their funding.
Look at the AMA. I mean, look at their members' funding.
I mean, what do you think they're going to do?
AMA is...
It's part of the problem here, right?
The licensing structure is part of the problem.
When you exclude people from being able to practice medicine because they don't tote the line, or you allow people to lose their license to practice medicine because they don't tote the line, that means you have control over the doctors.
And if you have control over the doctors, you have control over healthcare, and if you have control over healthcare, you control everything because when it comes down to saving a person's, you know, saving your own life, you're going to do what it takes, right?
So, you know, there is no greater control than the control over one's health.
You know, why is it that Gates is out there buying all the farmland?
Well, that's not hard to understand.
Look at all the big investors.
Where are they investing?
They're investing in necessities.
Farmland, drugs, healthcare.
These are things that people will always buy and will always need.
And so you've got to understand that what's happening is our oligarchy, our billionaires, That now, you know, transcend the power of nations are out there and they're buying these industries, they're controlling these industries that are necessities for life, and then they're using the fact that they control them to consolidate and expand their power in the future.
Right.
That's exactly right.
That's what this is.
Again, cartel behavior, beyond monopolistic behavior, just total domination of society at any cost, no matter how many lives they put at risk.
Well, we've already covered a huge array of information, and I want to be sensitive to your time, but what have we not covered here that you think is critical for people to know?
Well, I mean, honestly, I can and do talk about this endlessly.
There's so much that people need to know.
The biggest thing that I want to tell people right now, and we've touched on it, but I want to remind them If you don't take action now, we're going to be in trouble.
The lockdowns, the masking.
We were told, we had a very strong report from another whistleblower last week, using the words of the Washington official, we've tried the carrot and the stick.
The carrot's not working, so now we're going to use the stick.
They plan on beating us into submission.
They're gonna push lockdowns.
They're gonna push masking.
Nevada and California are talking about it right now, lockdowns.
Nevada's crook of a governor just said he was gonna push masks.
Ohio's governor, poor Mike DeWine, he was really sad yesterday because we passed SB22 over his override, and so he can't re-mask the entire state, but thank God we did that because otherwise that tyrant would be back at it.
We've got to pass stronger legislation to make sure that he can't force the vaccines on us because that's next.
And, you know, I just can't stress to you guys, Your freedom, you think that masks off, it's all good.
Wrong.
Wrong.
They're coming back with a vengeance and you either say, hell no, Or you live with the consequences.
And there is no truly safe zone, even in America.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis pushed vaccines aggressively the other day.
The Texas governor, I don't know what he said publicly, but I know he has a pro-vaccine stance, although he's done a lot of other really great work.
I like Ken Paxton, the AG of Texas, who's done some pretty amazing work, but I don't know, would he be willing to criminally go after Big Pharma?
Probably not.
They're too powerful.
But at least in places like the red states, I doubt they're going to aggressively push Door-to-door gunpoint vaccine mandates, although I think my opinion, Thomas, is that that's coming to cities like Los Angeles and cities in Connecticut and blue cities and blue states.
I think they're going to go door-to-door at gunpoint.
In fact, I've been told that's coming.
Well, so, I mean, this isn't hard to predict.
Right now, they're working on a legal argument.
They want to thread a needle with Jacobson.
Jacobson's been overturned, but they want to thread a needle with that case and say that they can force it in a locality.
And so you're right.
That's exactly what they're going to do.
They're going to try and mandate it in cities and counties.
And if you're in a population center, Particularly a blue-leaning population center.
Get ready.
Get your arm out.
It's coming.
So you either fight now or get ready because, you know, there's no in-between here.
We win this or we lose it big.
Well, and it seems like fight now peacefully with protests so that you don't have to fight later.
There's a group called the JPFO, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
They're a nonprofit that says we can never allow the Nazi soldiers to come and take us when we're disarmed ever again.
We can't let that happen ever again.
And I don't know how these people plan, you know, the vaccine pushers.
I don't know how they plan to have teams go door to door and, frankly, survive that long.
I mean, really, what do they expect people to do?
I mean, self-defense, man.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, the Second Amendment is the reason I don't think they're going to go door to door with guns.
And I'm going to be honest, I thank God for that amendment every day.
And our court has upheld it properly.
You know, I mean, that's critical.
But...
Yeah, you need the peaceful fighting and the peaceful protesting and the peaceful this.
I mean, we've got to do that now.
You can't wait.
You've got to get off Facebook.
You've got to listen to Brighteon.
You've got to listen to shows like this so you can get real news.
Get on CloudHub.
That's the one I'm using right now.
Get on some of these other places where you can get free information without censorship.
And for God's sakes, share these videos.
Everybody in the country needs to hear this.
You can't argue with this.
You go ahead.
Look up my lawsuits.
Look up the citations on them.
You check everything in them.
Go ahead.
Triple check it.
I challenge you.
And I'm going to challenge you one more thing.
I'm going to tell you, Anthony Fauci, Joe Biden, Pelosi, I don't care who you are.
You want to discredit me?
Here's how you do it.
You release the raw data.
The raw data from those 12 government systems that allow us to determine how many deaths and how many injuries from the vaccines, you release those, you discredit me, and you can make me go away real quick.
If you got nothing to hide, why are you hiding it?
Well said.
Exactly.
Well, Thomas, it's an honor to have you on.
God bless you for your work and your efforts.
And for those watching, they can visit your website at wrens-law.com.
We'll put it on screen for people.
I want to thank you and also invite you back anytime you've got something else to announce.
We'd love to have you back on.
Thanks so much, Mike.
All right.
Thank you, Thomas.
And again, for those of you watching, heed his advice.
We've got to peacefully resist right now while we still have a chance.
Share this video everywhere you can and maybe make your own videos and upload your own videos to Brighton as well.
So thank you so much, all of you, for watching.
And again, thank you, Thomas, for joining.
Thank you.
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