EPISODE 74: GUN ACTUALLY PT. II (SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025)
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My name is Byron, and I'll be short and kind of sweet.
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Hmm.
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Here's part two.
So I just want to squash this.
I don't, what he said there is like the dumbest fucking thing that I could imagine.
And the reason why I think that is because I think the Republican media apparatus is like one of the most powerful ones that we have in the national guy.
Like it's so fucking sophisticated.
Here's a fucking quote from Felix Biederman on it even.
When every person of varying degrees of idiocy makes the exact same prediction, you start to wonder, how does that work?
Right.
And this is really like a shout to him.
Like the reason why I'm like, it's somewhat recent to me is because Felix put out a series called Seeking a Friend for the End of the World.
Oh yeah, you were telling me about that.
Originally, actually, which is kind of interesting, is that he he's he was seeking to do a miniseries about our boy, Stephen.
And after going through that, I sued him.
Yeah, we sued his fucking money.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Back off, buddy.
That's our beat.
And so, and possibly maybe we had something to do with it.
I don't know.
I don't want to think of anything.
Went into like a pretty deep series about the Republican media apparatus.
And I think that it's kind of like worth going over.
You know, it goes all the way back to the fucking 70s, which what Steven is trying to say in that clip, before we get too far away from it, Johnny Carson, you don't know Johnny Carson's politics, right?
He kept it out of it.
And that's why now in this phase of liberal culture, that like everyone who's on TV, your Colberts, your Kimmels, these are all liberals.
You know where they stand on these things.
And that's been a big tide in the conversation.
So the fact that you can't be any of these things, you can't create music or they can't play your music on radio, et cetera, et cetera, which is, and I should say this is like a two-pronged.
This is like my thesis for like the other one, right?
Like they don't create culture.
Republicans don't create culture, but there's no Republican TV.
He says all of these things.
There's no echo chamber on the Republican side.
And it's that's not true, but they don't create culture.
And that's why there's not TV and music and things like that.
Like Tom McDonald's not popular for a reason.
Well, he's on top in the billboard chart.
If we go back to like 1970s, we have somebody named Paul Weyrich.
Are you guys familiar with this person?
I'm not.
No, Paul is like the fucking fabric of like the this man's involvement in the Republican Party put them on a course, basically.
Did he co-found the Heritage Foundation?
He did.
Okay.
With the DeVos funding, right?
Yeah.
That's, I mean, we could just really just jump right to that.
Like, Paul did, he's mostly known for the Heritage Foundation, for the moral majority.
He essentially was the person who said, like, the think tank is important to like the Republican culture, and we're going to use the think tank as like how we're going to test things for senators, for house members, local politicians, just everything on the right.
But it has to be legitimate, like the Brookings Institute is.
So that's where they come up with the Heritage Foundation.
Richard DeVos gives them this fucking blank check that puts them in a position of we can basically operate however we'd like.
He goes and he puts on like the American Legislative Exchange Council.
And these are things that are like if you're a public sector worker, if you go to like union organize, they can kill you for that.
You probably know this one, the Castle Doctrine.
That was theirs.
Classic.
Kind of that was like a, it turned Florida into like this, the first stand-your ground state.
Yeah, but that's all just because you want to have violent defense.
Instant violence.
You just want blood.
And these are also around the same time where he's like pushing forward this legislation that's, I forget what the bill is, but it's like if you were living with your parents or whatever and you were trying to seek out getting like contraception, like they would contact your parents for that.
They would tell your parents that you were trying to like get a condom or whatever.
Which is fucking rubber.
Yeah.
I would just like to call and leave a message for you and say that you're your son.
Your son Jimmy.
He's got a Jimmy.
He's got a got the Jimmy cover.
I'm trying to think of any there's got to be funnier names.
I haven't used one in years.
High five.
My man.
That's just good.
You got to be safe out there.
Everyone's got to be safe out there.
I haven't used one.
Yeah, we'll talk about that more later, actually, which is like kind of interesting.
Oh, but essentially like my mom listens to this.
Oh, yeah.
Well, your mom.
Okay, keep going.
Yeah, yeah.
She likes good information.
Yeah, yeah.
He's the co-founder of the Council for National Policy, which is also a very big deal.
And what they essentially are trying to do is they're trying to get Christians and Catholics to join the Republican Party.
That's like their big thing.
In 1978, he gets like all these church leaders to organize around this media blitz against the Bob Jones University.
Or I'm sorry, in support of Bob Jones University, who is getting targeted by the IRS because there was a they were going after the tax exemption of these private schools.
Yeah, and they were a segregated private school and they're trying to end their exemption.
So then this our friend here, Way Rich, he goes in and he organizes against the IRS for Bob Jones University.
They reverse this.
They back off.
He gets in line with Jerry Falwell and James Robinson.
They do a coalition called the Moral Majority, which is like probably what he's doing.
Yeah, with Sam Cedar.
Yeah, exactly.
Moral Majority report.
Moral majority report indeed.
Let's confuse people with that.
Yeah, let's go.
He and his buddy Roger Stone do NC PAC.
basically like this leads them to the reagan administration where way rich threatens george bush who's about to be the vice president for reagan and he's saying paul paul ended up hanging out with roger stone and then they partake in the pineapple lifestyle together right i I'm sure, probably so.
Yeah, they probably got matching Nicks and tattoos.
Of course.
When they put the tips together, it's his little face.
Oh, no.
It's the fingers and the peace sign.
Yeah, exactly.
Good call.
I have to get a little bit troped here.
Okay.
Sorry.
I did that.
I started that riff.
So then he threatens George Bush's political career, and he's like, there'll be death to your political career if you don't follow the hard right.
You know, that's where he was going.
Anyway, that year with Reagan, there was a bunch of these Dems.
These incubant dumps, 24, 12 of them get knocked off.
He says this is just the beginning.
When he gets pressed about, like, did you really mean that about George Bush?
Are you guys mad about George Bush?
He's like, we care about principle, not people, baby.
And so Way Rich goes on and he starts in the national empowerment of television, and it failed because he just dumped a bunch of money down the drain.
All of his funders, they couldn't keep him floating.
But that was kind of our first glimpse at televised Republican media on cable television anyhow.
Like Pat Robinson kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
700 clubs.
The fun one that I remember is he led a Christian boycott of the U.S. military.
What?
Yeah, yeah, because there was all the Wiccan Covens in Fort Hood.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so he's like one of those guys, just generally not very likable.
In the report, there's like a whole part on there about Pat Buchanan, and they kind of like talk about him as like being the sort of proto-Trump and that.
But I'm going to skip over him to go to James Dodson here because I think that he's like more important.
But do you, you know, you guys know Dobson?
James Dobson?
No.
I know Dobby the house health.
Dobby the house health.
the only dog I know.
He's also important, but just like a different...
He's focused on the family.
Yeah, focus on the family.
So that's right.
Basically, he was...
Yeah, you've seen him.
He's, like, been way out there and actually, like...
Oh, he looks like the NRA guy.
Who's the NR?
Wayne LaPierre.
LaPierre, yeah.
He looks just like him.
That's who I thought it was.
But it's probably just old white names.
I think it's just a white guy thing.
Yeah.
James Dobson, he was a psychologist under a eugenicist named Paul Pompano.
Paul Pompano was most known for, he was an advocate for sterilizing the mentally ill and the mentally disabled.
He sparked what was called the social hygiene movement, which kind of like in some ways it seemed like kind of fine.
It just sort of seemed like what country you were in, it got adopted like all over the world was kind of a big thing.
But under his tutelage, James Dobson went on to like write essentially great books.
These really great books that explain that like spanking and like hitting kids with switches was like the proper way to do it.
Dare to discipline is the name of the book.
They were beating their kids' asses and then like they were going and doing the daddy-daughter dating so that like daughters could know like what a proper gentleman was.
And of course this led to things like the purity ball and purity balls, I guess.
And that that was from his followers were the people that put that together.
Sure.
So lots of lots of other choice things in there.
But Dobson was like obsessed with media.
Like he was a fucking, you know, he was constantly like rallying against you don't put police chases on TV, not on TV shows, no fighting on TV, like all these things, like just being very like, he's pressing all of these people for capitulation with like what he wants, right?
He's writing to the networks.
And he gets with Richard Davos also, who we know from earlier from the Heritage Foundation.
And Amway and Orlando Magic.
Are his things the also the Council for National Policy, which is also a big one of those think tanks that we love so much.
But with Focus on the Family, Dobson did a lot of this abstinence-only sex ed.
So, if you ever had to deal with that in school, that was like primarily like you have been touched by James Dobson.
And he was also, because of the conversations he was having in the 80s, talking about homeschooling, it was like a huge leverage to this guy named Jim Werner.
Jim Werner went on to basically get like another media blitz, Echo Chamber, to basically jam up all of the lines at Congress or what have you.
They melted the switchboard with how many millions of people called in to say that, like, actually, we want to do homeschooling and we think homeschooling is very cool.
Later on, Dobson would then interview.
Do you remember this one, Byron, Ted Bundy?
Uh, no, and uh, we the serial killer, Ted Bundy, yes, yes, also part of the RNC, right?
Yeah, and so, like, Dobson interviews him and basically like makes Bundy draw a line in his murder saying that, like, basically seeing Hustler magazine as a child, uh, got him so horny that he was so ready to kill.
Oh, no, yeah, and so Ted Bunny went on to kill, and so then Dobson got absolutely fucking dragged by what was then like maybe like a more like moral right who said that this is actually fucked up that you're doing this.
They made him donate a large sum of money.
Um, I'm not sure where, but uh, he had to donate some of that cash back because they weren't so uh red-pilled at the time.
Great, there's a great interview with Ted Bundy talking about how paperback porno made him kill.
Yeah, it's one of his last before he was the day before he was executed, or just like hours before.
This is like these weird like cultural moments.
So, like, we're kind of like the Ted Bundy stuff coupled with like the uh, where you know, where we are right now with the Charlie Kirk murder and who is doing what, and like trying to like draw these conclusions.
This is all like what is happening right now.
This is the fucking playbook, this is where it started from with five million listeners.
Dobson, like, he goes in and he to these like purple states and he like stops a bunch of like anti-gay discrimination.
He just gets these people on board to essentially do his bidding like that.
Wait, wait, wait.
You're telling me that the author of the book, Straight Talk to Men from 1997, would be anti-gay?
Yeah, it sounds quite like it, yeah.
Weird, okay.
And then, just like lastly, here, I've been long in the tooth, I apologize, but the last person I think that's like really important here is Roger Ailes.
The reason why I bring him up is maybe obvious, but he basically turned on like the television money machine for the Republican Party.
He did this through his work on the Mike Douglas show in Cleveland, Ohio, which is owned by Tenga because that is important now.
This station, people need to know these things.
KYW-TV, that's where he started out at.
And in I want to say, yeah, 1967, he's having a discussion with Richard Nixon on the air.
Basically, Nixon's position was that like TV was a gimmick and it's bullshit, and like people shouldn't be paying attention to it because the real ground's on the street.
It's with me, I'm here.
And I believe it was 1962, he had a failed run for presidency.
I think in 67, he says that TV's bullshit, don't pay attention to TV, it sucks.
And then in 1968, he comes back to Ailes and he says, Hey, actually, will you be the executive producer of television on my presidential campaign?
He says, Of course, he will.
They go on to get Nixon elected for 1969, whatever that election was, 1969, 1970.
They go on, he works on Reagan's re-election campaign, and then he goes on to get essentially George Bush elected, which was...
Wait, Ailes had nothing to do with the Frost-Nixon disaster, though, right?
He got out.
No, no.
I always want to say Spiro Agnew because he has such a good name.
But like, no, it wasn't Agnew.
It was who was running against George Bush in 1990.
Dukakis.
Yeah, Dukakis.
That's right.
They were saying that essentially like the same media apparatus that he had devised for Nixon, he used for Bush Sr. that put him on.
He won, essentially.
People credit him a lot to that.
After getting George Bush elected, he goes on and creates a little network called CNBC.
You've heard of it?
Heard of it.
And then he goes and makes another one called The America's Talking Channel.
Never heard of it.
No, that's not real.
That's what's not real because it got bought out pretty quickly by a little thing called MSNBC.
Ailes is working for himself at MSNBC and he's like, isn't things going so nice here?
And at the time, David Zaslov is working for NBC.
And if you can believe it, Ailes is believed to have called Zaslov a little Jew prick.
That starts Ailes' departure from MSNBC, though it's not said that that's actually why he was fired or that.
No, he chose to leave.
Yeah, he chose to leave.
So he resigns from MSNBC and he goes and he takes all this knowledge that he had created over there and he sets up a little thing called 20th Century, aka Fox Entertainment, which is Fox News.
And he grabs Rupert Murdoch and he puts him on a CEO in 1996.
Puts himself as the chair of all of the Fox television stations around the United States.
That happened in 2005.
He cancels some shows.
He brings some new shows in, and he hires a former Viacom exec, Dennis Swanson, as the president.
And then he produces the first Fox News show called The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet.
Fox News didn't become, I think, until 2005.
It was 96.
Yeah, 96.
Yeah, I apologize.
96.
Hopefully, they put that show out.
I just put it, I put that in my news back there.
So then in, let's see, in January 2011, we've got guys like Glenn Beck coming and going.
Ailes calling the people at NPR Nazis because they fired Juan Williams for making anti-Muslim comments post-9-11 on the Bill O'Reilly show.
Well, everyone was doing that.
Then he somehow got like 10,000 sexual abuse allegations, including one against Megan Kelly.
You got to be running through the halls of a busy stadium to touch inappropriate.
You're having people line up for it.
Or you just show your dick to a huge crowd of people.
That's cool.
I'm like a jumbotron.
That's a very smooth move.
And then so after that, after he gets let go from his like fourth fucking company that he started, media conglomerate that this one man started.
He then goes on in 2016 to then join President Donald J. Trump's election campaign where he wins, of course, and ruins our lives for a decade.
Yeah.
It just makes it this every day of my life.
Yeah.
So when you say that there, and I'm sorry, still going, when you say that there's not a fucking media apparatus at all or an echo chamber at all or any of this or like, or why the quote makes sense when you say every person of varying degrees of idiocy makes the same prediction.
Yeah, it does make you start to wonder.
Where is that media apparatus?
How does it exist?
And like, are you not an arm of it?
Or like, how does this work, Steven?
So here's the thing.
Stephen asked everyone he knows if there was an echo chamber and they all said no.
So things were cut and dry.
Wasn't Veggie Tales on like a network?
I don't know.
I only saw it in like Sunday school.
I feel like it was.
Listen.
But yeah, that's absolutely insane that it's all like that trace backable, of course.
Well, it's deeply ingrained in our culture.
But there's definitely an echo chamber on the right.
There's one on the left, too.
And just because just because they're bad at entertainment doesn't mean that there's an echo chamber, right?
Like it just means that sometimes your corny beliefs make it hard to have fun.
And there's only so many movies that Sylvester Stallone can be in in a year.
Yeah.
And to like a side point, in this episode, do they talk about any of the people talking at the turning point?
Trump talking or Stephen Miller talking?
I don't think so.
I think that this was before that.
We might not go into that.
Well, I only will say, just like to Stephen Miller's point at that thing, if anyone's heard it out there who's hearing this, is that like he just complains about exactly that, that like they don't create anything.
They just make everything worse.
And he's talking about the left or whatever, right?
And of course, they, the ones that are Kelly Kirk.
Yeah, and they make everything bad and there's nothing good.
And it's all because of them.
We create everything.
Like we are, we are culture.
And it's like, this is the thing, is that like you are not culture.
You can't buy culture.
You can kind of, but like you can't quantify cool.
And that's like, that's their problem.
That's what they're upset about.
That's all of this is about is that they have every arm, they have every finger, every fist clenched for them in power, but they can't control culture.
Stephen's right when they say that they can't make television or music or anything that's like worth talking about.
I mean, they're trying though, right?
Like, I mean, it would be, it would be wrong to say that Donald isn't creating Yellowstone.
Like, what do they got?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every day, entertainment, though, right?
Like, Stephen, Steve, well, not Steven, but it's not the kind of entertainment that we actually like.
Like, it feels like we're on a roller coaster, but you're sitting still the whole time.
And fundamentally, like, your material conditions just get worse.
Like, they deteriorate as the time goes on.
Like, that's the roller coaster is you're watching your wallet fall apart.
Whereas people more appreciate a Joe Biden presidency because they're not so inundated with like distraction.
Yeah, like having to watch it.
I'm just telling walking around checking my seat belt on my roller coaster ride.
Yeah.
Shaking it up and down.
What is the harness like?
Getting too close to my thigh and schooling, man.
It's buckled.
This reminds me of how in Monsters Inc they realize they can get more energy from laughs instead of screams.
That's how this ends?
That's how this feels with entertainment.
And, you know, we're being harvested.
They would have to get Rob Schneider to sit still for like 20 minutes to like knock it out at the ballpark.
True.
If Rob Schneider was president, this would all be solvable because we have comedy.
He's like number two opportunistic at this point.
Like there's Steven Crowder, then there's Rob Schneider right now.
Yeah, somehow.
Jared, one, I appreciate you really thoroughly pointing out how this falsehood of a non-existent right-wing media zone bubble bubble.
Echo chamber.
Echo chamber.
Thank you.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Speech bubble.
Yeah, I think that it's super important to notice that because, God, these guys who used to complain about the left being victims all the time.
I have just never in my life experienced a group of people in the last month claim to be the victim of all things around them more than the current right-wing.
It's aggressive.
It's really aggressive.
And sure, people on the left can be like, dude, I mean, there's some babies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's next level, like, little baby behavior.
Get off the floor, guys.
Come on.
In other words, someone can go through this world.
If they have liberal parents, okay, they go to public school, they go to university, they tune into ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, even Fox News to a degree.
They can set their favorite tabs on their computer.
They can go to Facebook and never be challenged on meta and YouTube, never be challenged because they're shown the kind of content that they want.
The left today can be in an echo chamber.
For proof, you can see how vitriolic they are, how hateful they are by going to Reddit or these places.
It is not possible to be in a right-wing echo chamber in 2025 or 2005.
Look at your fucking chat, Stephen.
Listen, my guy.
We can send you screenshots.
I've got a lot of them.
Don't look at your chat.
It's traumatic.
The right can't be in an echo chamber.
I don't want your eyes to see this.
And here's the thing to think about, Steven.
Conservative parents do not always raise conservative kids.
Just ask Tyler Robinson.
Echo chambers exist everywhere, and you are in one, Steven.
We're in one.
The only reason we aren't is because we're reaching out to listen to shit like you're showing, like Matt Walsh and all that stuff.
Well, I mean, I made an intentional decision following the original Trump presidency once Hillary lost.
I wasn't terribly political, but I wanted to understand what was outside of my echo chamber.
And that's when I started listening to Ben Shapiro, people like Steven Crowder and Gavin McGinnis, who's back on Twitter, by the way.
I recently had a moment where I showed my phone screen to like a client, and then I accidentally scrolled weird on it and it pulled up my recently listened podcast and Matt Walsh was there.
Oh, no.
And I was like, it's research.
I hate him.
I saw this joke earlier, like a joke, you know, fucking real or whatever.
And the guy's like, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And sort of the same thing.
His friends, like, what's on your home screen there?
Because it keeps like popping up.
Is that Jeffrey Epstein?
And he's like, no, no, no, no.
That's Anthony Bourdain.
I love Anthony Bourdain.
No reservations.
Best TV show.
He's like, no, no, no.
Open it up again.
And he shows him it's Jeffrey Epstein.
And his friends like, show him what Anthony Bourdain looks like.
And they like put them next to each other.
And the guy's like, oh my God, that's why I got kicked out of that job interview.
I mean, they do look kind of close.
Head size is a little bit, yeah.
Yeah, dimensional, a little bit different.
But yeah, no, I just say that all because like when I started listening to Ben Shapiro, I wasn't listening to it because I was trying to like do what Steven does when he turns on CNN, where he's like, this is fucking hilarious.
Well, I think it's important to understand what other people are engaging with.
Exactly.
And the thing that I think that's shown, or I've seen most about Steven in the last couple of weeks and seeing his Piers Morgan thing with Joe Walsh and this, of course, is that Steven does not think he has biases at all.
Maybe it's because of the echo chamber that he grew up in.
Like he doesn't believe that he does.
At least he doesn't talk about them.
That's the part that's crazy.
He's like, I have biases.
Of course.
And I'm not an impartial person.
Could you milk me?
I am.
I'm a nipple-falker.
I have biases.
So here's the recent poll that shows the results of this.
A YouGov online poll survey asked people what political affiliation the shooter had.
Okay.
So 21% said Democrat.
40% said not sure.
24% said Republican.
24% of people polled online by YouGov believe that this shooter, this trans radicalized leftist shooter, or sleeping with trans.
I guess we have to be careful, right?
With that caveat, which let's just gay.
Gay.
You're gay.
24% believe that this shooter was a radicalized Republican.
Okay.
This was September 14th, five days after.
And like a day and a half after he was caught.
Yeah.
All right.
I just, I don't see that.
I'm impressed to see 40% said not sure and that 15% said neither, which I don't know where you would get that.
That's kind of yeah.
And also, it's possible people were like, man, it's a tragedy and they paid no attention after that.
So I don't know.
They might have guessed.
Yeah.
And this was, again, only 2,355 people.
That's a pretty standard sample size for any sort of poll, but I just, I don't think that this matters.
What's the difference between 21 and 24 Democrat-Republican split?
Like, that seems like if you're arguing that one site is more or less irresponsible, I think it would need to be wider than 3%, which could be like the margin of error in a poll like this.
So fucking cool it, Steven.
Yeah, well, I mean, and I want to be right.
I want you to put me in the Zoltar box and then shock me.
Ooh, okay.
Give me a card at the end.
It can't be my card.
It's ridiculous.
Key fact number one.
Oh, we've got key facts.
Oh, I love key facts.
Nice.
Key fact number one.
Robinson is very clearly a leftist.
Okay.
Just to be clear, the governor confirmed it, that it was different from the family.
And I believe this clip is a roommate or is a neighbor?
No, this isn't the neighborhood.
Let's talk governor's thing.
Just grab me the.
All right.
The neighbor that saw them.
Yeah.
Well, let's just go to this.
This is the governor first.
Okay, sorry.
We're still kind of flying by the seat of our pants here a little bit because we're double-checking all the information for the future.
I thought we were a fact owner who has been a disappointment to many, but Spencer Cox was very, very clear that this shooter is a leftist.
It's confirmed.
So he thinks that it is confirmed because Spencer Cox, the governor of Utah, said that he's a leftist.
Yeah.
It sounds like he's like Charlie Kirk speaking out the side of his neck.
And I'll let you have that one.
And saying two things at the same time here.
And right?
Like he's saying this doesn't exist, but it exists at the same time.
Yeah.
It doesn't exist, but it happens to exist.
Well, I think the cool thing is that...
It's Schrodinger's echo chamber, dude.
That's funny.
That's a good episode title, too.
Fuck.
How are we going to figure this one out?
I don't know.
I like that one more.
Things are fucked up in the studio because they're double-checking their facts.
Great experience.
We're flying by the seat of our pants, but these are facts.
Maybe you should not be doing the show.
You had all weekend.
You know, I listened to an episode of Matt Walsh.
Yeah.
Hearing his take on it was absolutely insane because it was very much like the person was like, well, we don't know much about the person.
We just caught them.
We don't know their motives.
And we want to make sure that we're Spencer Cox, the governor of Utah?
I don't know if it was.
Okay.
But then Matt Walsh was like, why are they lying to us?
No, no, it's because they're just being responsible people.
Yeah, fucking chill.
Like, you don't know what to do.
You can be mad once you know.
Just like the situation that's developed over, I guess it was a couple days ago in Dallas, a sniper attack at the ICE facility, which they still don't know the political ideology.
I think they just announced that it's undetermined or left.
I asked Stephen.
Yeah.
I asked Matt Walsh.
I guarantee you that they're saying it's left for some.
I guarantee it because I haven't heard that episode yet.
I just know.
It's a spectrum as well, which they kind of refuse to acknowledge.
The shooter who shot Charlie Kirk may have said, well, I think they actually bring that up here.
Yeah.
Also, there was confirmation that Robinson said to family members that Kirk was, quote, full of hate, was spreading hate.
And the slogans on the bullet casings, the round casings, hey, fascists, catch, Bella Chow, which is an Italian anti-fascist slogan.
And then there was the notices bulge comment.
And the reason this is important is because we had the internal memo that was leaked from someone there under the umbrella of DOJ ATF.
We brought that to you early on.
And some people now are trying to say, well, that wasn't because the, well, yeah, it has the anti-fascist stuff, which no one could have known had we not brought you that leak.
And I still, again, Jay is the best to ever do it, our undercover journalists, send your tips, continue to, all of them have been protected.
Fascist, obviously correct.
If you want to argue the minutiae that notices bulge and the gay stuff wasn't outwardly trans, okay, that's still the memo that was circulated.
And again, it matters because at that point in time, you had no information and the shooter was still out there.
So knowing that this shooter shares the ideology, could be a part of Antifa and has a radicalized leftist ideology at that point in time was not only something of value, it was necessary because many of you were about to go to church.
Many of you were going to be in public settings.
Many of you were still on the menu, to be clear.
Okay.
He said a lot here.
He said a whole bunch.
So I want to back up and say that it was clear the shooter is left-wing because he said that Charlie Kirk is full of hate.
You can feel that way and be right like that.
I think that there's plenty of people who are conservative, or even plenty of religious Democrats.
There's people who say they just don't like the behavior of certain people.
Yeah, Israelis, Benny, people.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
There is no reason to believe that that is evidence just because he didn't like Charlie Kirk that he wouldn't be a conservative.
No, there's no fucking good ones here.
Byron, do you own a gun?
I'm not going to say.
Okay.
So that's what a fucking leftist says.
You're leftist, obviously.
Okay.
You probably get abortions all the time.
Well, yeah.
You probably are trans because you have to be.
Of course.
Or else, you know, your parents will hit you.
Dennis, get a look at his genitals real quick.
Well, take him out.
Go to the bathroom real fist.
Do official.
Can we do like an unzip noise and then like a thud on the table kind of a thing?
No, it's not.
Come on.
I'm not.
Come on, guys.
Well, that's part of the echo chamber.
And it's like, people think that there is no spectrum of politics at all.
They think that, all right, cool.
If you're on the left, here are your beliefs.
It's like you pick them up.
You're born, and then you pick them up.
You go to a high school.
A gay teacher kisses you and gives you your packet of beliefs.
Now you're playing Dream Daddy on Steam.
Yeah, it's a fun game.
I've never actually played it.
I've gotten close.
It's not that fucking simple, man.
No.
But for folks who tune into Steven, I don't think that his listeners are that simply.
Some of them are.
Sure.
But I do believe that his show is that.
It's dumbed down.
Thing happens.
I know what he's going to say.
Always.
Well, I love that he is trying to walk this back and then also say it didn't matter because you were on the menu.
I love this.
Straight up published this ATF memo that said that the casings had transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
And during the three-hour broadcast that he live streamed immediately after someone that he, you know, respected or at least respects publicly now, even though he probably privately was thinking Charlie Kirk stole my change my mind thing and did it way better than I did.
It could be I was wrong about the transgender stuff, but that doesn't matter because I was alerting conservatives that they were going to be hunted by this person.
So it doesn't matter.
That I think is one of the more disgusting pieces of all this stuff I've heard is that they're telling everyday people, like, hey, listen up.
You know your liberal neighbor?
Yeah, they're going to fucking kill you.
Yeah, you are now the target, and you better be ready for defensive violence.
Immediate defensive violence.
Yeah.
Really gross.
And it wasn't necessary, Steven.
What else was he?
Was he just left?
Well, he had cop sunglasses.
Oh, yeah.
Not only was he a leftist, he was gay and entrenched in the LGBTQAIP.
Plus, they want us to say that unironically, see how far we've gone.
Subculture.
So Governor Cox told the media that this was the case, and it was confirmed by this probably most awesome ever neighbor.
There's some published reports out there that this individual, the roommate, may have been transitioning.
And did that correlate with what you saw?
Yeah, definitely.
And they were kissing.
Yeah.
Where did you see them kissing?
Just coming out.
I was riding with my bike, so I didn't see the whole thing, but yeah, I saw them.
But you were sure that they were a couple, but you only seen them together once.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the way, I mean, random guys don't hold hands and definitely don't kiss.
That's correct, awesome neighbor.
Yeah, he had to tell the female reporter how men operate.
Yeah, exactly.
You had no idea.
But that's the whole thing, right?
That's how far we've gone.
They hold you to a different standard, right?
24%, meaning more people, according to the YouGov poll, believe this shooter was Republican than Democrat, or don't know, or neither.
Wait, you see, he's saying the shooter couldn't have been Republican because he was a gay guy.
Yeah, well, yeah, Byron.
He said that he saw Tyler and then he saw a gay roommate go into a tree together.
I don't know if you heard that or not.
Oh, no.
And they were doing AASSING.
I and G.
Yeah.
Listen, this couple kissed?
And do you know what comes after that is love?
And then it's marriage.
Then domestic.
No, no, no.
Domestic partnership.
Then comes domestic partnership.
Domestic partnership.
And then comes adopting a child in another state and moving back to Kentucky.
Jesus.
But is he trying to say that they were gay so they aren't trustworthy?
Well, no.
Why is he bringing it up at all?
You have to know.
Okay.
You have to know.
See, because if someone dies, if someone came and shot my family, I would say, do you suck, dude?
I would need to know the killer.
I need to know if I need to behave you or not.
I love about these clips, though, is that that one's read a lot like that John Mulaney joke with the, I am gay, I have AIDS, I'm new in town.
That's the exact same energy the way he reads that.
Classic.
You're denying their existence.
No, no.
I'm not denying the existence of what it is you claim to want to be.
I'm acknowledging the existence of cock and balls right there right now.
Yes, and crazy up in the head.
Why do you deny the existence of the wiener and balls?
It's true.
Why?
Why are you denying the existence of the penis?
So they'll tell you why you're obsessed with it.
Yeah, why are you obsessed with it?
Why are you obsessed with my gender too?
Because you told me that it was a woman and I see a penis.
Confused.
Yeah, it seems to me like you place too much emphasis.
No, no, no, because you said it's not fair and it is there.
And actually, what was there?
Was Tyler and Rifle sitting in a bush, up, down, up, down, push, push, push?
Okay.
Jesus.
It's been a while since you've seen it.
That's what he also wrote that on the fucking bullet casing.
Up, down, up, down, push, push, push.
Was the fascist cash one?
Yeah.
I think that at some point, you just have to let him say that for himself and look foolish, right?
Like, you don't see people's penises all the time out in the open.
No.
Well, I've never seen the rifle, I guess.
Yeah.
Okay.
I've never seen someone and been like, man, I bet they got great balls.
Or you're pissed off that they have a lot of people.
They bet they've got a dick.
I bet they've got a dick.
I've never thought.
I just don't care about it.
Yeah, come on, what that hog look like.
I'm always wondering that.
It's Friday night.
I must be wondering what that hog look like.
Okay, that's the beginning of your hog chasers series on YouTube.
That's right.
No, it's just, it's, I just, I just don't, I just don't get it, I guess.
And I would be really curious to know, like, hold a belly back, let me see the hog.
Jesus.
I don't know.
Josh.
I don't have a better way of asking the same question that I want to ask, which is like, why does it matter?
Well, it's a catchphrase, and it's let me see the hog.
Okay, well.
Well, that's the part that's just so gross and weird to me.
He's literally thinking about this person's balls and dick more than I've ever.
Do you think he's worried that he would get tricked by someone?
Is that his concern?
I wouldn't be surprised.
That is the concern of all of these people a thousand times.
Yeah.
It's legit like, oh, they're getting too good at this.
You know, like, it's like they're fucking waiting for somebody to like pull the goddamn like mask off and their face warps.
You know, it's like it's a CGI face or whatever.
The reptilian shapeshifter, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe there is some amount of that like going on too.
The worry of the worry of a you know apocalypse and a world takeover from a from and if they don't transvestigate, they're gonna get fucking got, you know, and like that's it.
It's just sort of like every time that I like hear these people talk this talk, there's just like underlying tone of just like, well, what if I end up pulling my dick out and one of these fucking trans people sucking my thing?
Yeah.
And it's like, I don't know, you probably just come, dog.
Like, it's, you could, you, you could also just come, dog.
All right.
It's like not that serious.
And it does feel like there's some amount of fear of being got, like, getting called out.
Or like Josh is going to be like, hey, your data has an Adams apple.
What's going on?
Well, he did call out one of the Emmy-nominated actresses lying that they may be transgender.
And I was like, dude, like.
But then they were like, it actually just might be a burly woman.
We don't know.
And it's like, do you see like what you're doing here?
You're just playing like, would you?
All of it.
It's just like they're just window shopping and they're saying, hey, like this burly one, like we know that we wouldn't do that, right?
But maybe because it's a dude, but the one that like, maybe there's like a secret one in there that we don't know that I'm saying is attractive and I don't is Hunter Schaefer here?
Do I know what Hunter Schaefer looks like?
Am I horny for guys?
Am I horny for trans people?
What do I like?
And these are not questions that these people are like really answering.
Well, Stephen did, remember, when the bisexual beast came out of him?
Oh, yeah.
We haven't addressed that in a while.
No, but it's something that, like, it is canon for him.
And it is something that, like, he has apparently experienced the bisexual monster that is, like, something that he claims to have to have put away to be in the position he's in right now.
Do you think when Steven's hooking up with somebody, he starts undressing by taking their pants off first?
Guys, we got so many clips.
You think he starts at the bottom?
Is that the question?
Yeah, just to be sure.
He Donald ducks him first.
What did that little oak look like?
Pants is him like he's in middle school.
And then he goes, all right, let's go.
All right, we're good, actually.
We can go to dinner now.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Key fact number three.
Oh, yeah.
Here's key fact number three, because the left, and this is important, because Charlie Kirk was a moderate by most.
I wouldn't say moderate.
I would say he was consistently conservative, but in his form of rhetoric compared to others, compared to people here, we definitely are a little more overzealous, you would say, more aggressive.
They took his life anyway.
They took his life anyway.
I hope you guys are understanding that.
So in order to try and distance themselves, the left, their ideology, which has bred this cancerous evil that needs to be cut out of this country.
And I mean that.
They try and convince you.
No, no, well, actually, this shooter, the reason he's so hateful is that he's more right than Charlie Kirk.
This was actually the work of the Groipers.
All right.
This is where Steven decides to bring up the Groiper.
I don't even know what we call it.
Conspiracy?
It was like just brought up conversationally for like three days.
Yeah, the rumor.
It's just not that big of a deal, except that it did mainstream Nick Fuentes to the point where he is getting fan cam posts on Twitter by e-girls, which is kind of frustrating.
But I will say that I called this about three or four years ago.
I did say Nick Fuentes is the number one most dangerous person on the right that we need to watch out for.
I said Nick Fuentes could be president three years ago, and I'm getting more and more scared every day that that is the direction things are going.
At least we have time.
He's young.
Well, yeah, he's got time.
He could be, he could probably do four, five, six terms.
He's 20, 20.
Well, I'm saying we got like 12 years of working.
Oh, yeah, because he has to be 36, but that doesn't matter.
It gives him a lot of time, a lot of runway.
How is he?
27.
Sorry.
Oh, wow.
So he's closer than I thought.
I don't know.
I don't really care about the whole thing.
That's just online rumors.
They get to do trans rumors.
Now they're mad that someone's like, he's a Groyper.
That becomes your number three point.
Yeah, which is pretty inconsistent.
It is, yeah.
And Charlie Kirk, I mean, I guess he's kind of moderate because he didn't publicly say the N-word.
He's not moderate.
He's super right-leaning.
I mean, no, he's right, but I think they're saying inside of conservatism, he's yeah.
If you're looking at the four corner political map and you're just looking from the center to the far right, he's like a middle version of that.
He's like a 50% guy.
He was a sellable conservative, I guess.
Here's key fact number three.
Whoops, we already heard that.
I don't know.
I guess he earned this, right?
He did come up with Change My Mind.
So he gets to do, I guess, stolen valor in terms of his experiences with the Groipers personally, right?
Now, let me be clear because I can tell you this firsthand.
I have had first-hand experience with the Groipers.
So Groipers is a fan group that was, at least as far as I know, led by Nick Fuentes.
And they are Christian white nationalists.
You would see them and immediately think they're radically anti-Semitic.
Yeah, they're right wing in the sense they're anti-LGBTQ.
I actually, they would follow us to not just change my minds, but events if I was even doing stand-up, and they would try and show up for Q ⁇ A's and try and sort of get you, try and sort of swarm you with a gotcha, entrap you.
And they took us off their hit list once they were embarrassed a long time ago.
They are far worse than Nick Fuentes himself, I will say.
I don't hold Nick Fuentes responsible for everything that the Groupers do.
But there's a reason a lot of people don't want to host Nick Fuentes because if you do, you get swatted, you get doxxed because these people are very unstable, this fan base.
They are very radical.
And I don't even necessarily know that they're right wing so much as they simply want to be rabble rousers.
Wow.
Okay.
I love this.
Don't align yourself with them, Steven.
Let's like, let's, yeah, let's not make, let's not, let's not make sense of this.
I think this is probably one of my favorite clips of the night.
First of all, he's not going to criticize a 27-year-old Nick Fuentes because he wants to be on his good side.
He's like, listen, he's scared of his ass.
I think he truly is.
Yeah.
He is scared of it.
These kids used to follow me around a little bit.
Well, and that's the craziest thing.
So basically, he is stealing the entire storyline of the Groyper War.
You remember this?
Yeah, I don't.
Oh, 2019, Nick declared war on Charlie Kirk, specifically Turning Point USA.
They were doing a tour called Turning Point USA's Culture War College Tour, where the Groupers would get in the Q ⁇ A line and ask questions, basically, like ask like the Jewish question or like basically in an attempt to make Charlie Kirk say things that would, I don't know, lean more towards their Christian nationalist beliefs.
It would make him like take insane positions.
Yeah, they're not going to be able to do that.
And they're recorded.
And so then they could just point to these things and being like, look how fucking stupid this asshole is.
Yeah, the intention was to make a fool of Charlie Kirk every night.
Discredit him.
It was really interesting.
They ended up ending, I think, the tour early.
I think John Dauntrump Jr. was a guest at one of them because the Groipers were heckling so much that they ended up shutting down early.
But again, this is just Stephen claiming to have had the same intentions.
It's stolen valor of the Groyper Wars.
God, that's a good episode title too.
We're stacking them.
I don't believe that Steven Crowder, first of all, he acts as if he did a change my mind every week for four years.
He did like over a dozen, maybe.
Not that many, though.
They were not following him around to his comedy shows.
Groupers did not go to Steven Crowder events and they did not do the same stuff that they did to Charlie Kirk because Steven Crowder isn't as important as Charlie Kirk was.
He was too busy doing that himself to fucking sink and shit.
Exactly.
Yeah, and that's the other point is that Steven is just so foolish in like how he listen.
Yeah, it doesn't.
You go listen to that episode, the South by South mass episode.
That's Steven Crowder.
He's embarrassing.
Fucking goofy goofball.
But who am I, right?
A dishonest liberal.
Yeah, yeah, the enemy.
They're still lying now.
Because guess what?
If they get right there, you have a quarter of the country.
And you have a huge portion who say, I don't know.
So let's round this out.
By the end of this, you might have 30, you might have 35% of the country who believe that the shooter was a radicalized right-wing extremist.
Well, the reason that matters is because this is the manifestation.
This is not a byproduct.
This is the perfect soldier as molded and engineered by the left.
And I have been here.
I have been on YouTube since 2008 doing at least outwardly political content.
Several years before that, just doing random sketches and comedy.
I have seen the grooming.
I have seen the radical ideology.
I have seen the calls to action.
This is the direct result.
And so if they can convince a portion of the country that the monster they created is actually a byproduct of the right of MAGA, of President Trump, then they can continue to justify more violence against you.
Why?
Because they've convinced a portion of this country that even this horrible, life-altering act of violence was the fault of the right wing.
Just like they said, hey, the genocide, the racism, the cops hunting young black men is that's actually the net result of people like Charlie Kirk, of people like you and me.
They're still pushing the lie so that they can set the stage to justify more violence moving forward, and then they will blame it on you.
Are you starting to get the picture?
They will blame you anyway.
Stephen literally was setting the stage for more violence earlier.
Uh-huh.
Literally.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he's still doing it, right?
Yeah.
Are you mad?
Well, I mean, obviously I'm always angry at Stephen.
Steven Crowder.
it's just it's it's crazy to me that he's implying that in this situation the left is always to blame for everything well and i i don't care about like we don't care about your left right in this situation but it's like oh he said that if it was someone on the right that the left would say that his death was justified which i don't even know how to square that I've never said his death was justified.
I'm just not mourning him.
I don't have to.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
That's okay.
I can say I don't want it from the shadows.
Stephen Miller.
You're not mourning enough.
I can say that I don't want this to happen, and I don't like that it did happen.
And also, I would not say that if it was someone on the right, that it's justified.
I don't know how he's even getting to that.
I would also say that he needs to invest in some soundproofing on the studio.
You did hear that airplane.
And I would like to say that it is a live show, and that we could probably, with the sound of that airplane and looking at the clock, we could determine where the studio is.
That'd be really tough.
I think we could figure it out.
It would be really interesting, though, don't you think?
Because all flight patterns are public.
So I think you'd be able to, you know, track the flight.
You could determine where.
And also, I would like to also point out that I do not believe that this shooter is the perfect soldier.
I don't think he's a mean kid.
Yeah, has Cheeseburger Kid is our perfect soldier?
He's still.
What are you talking about?
We've brought out here the most advanced soldier of all time.
He loves the gun.
Yeah, fuck it.
The rifle is enormous.
And if the video is true and it's just like down his pants, it's like, this kid's maybe they're not setting their brightest.
He's the perfect soldier.
No, I'm sorry, guys.
He's wearing cop sunglasses and he's got an American Eagle on his shirt.
And I guess that's like all you need to be getting a movie made after you directed by Dirty Harry himself.
Yes.
Yes.
Clint.
Yes.
And I'm glad that he's not the perfect soldier.
I'm glad that he got caught.
morally uh politically incoherent people who have access to guns is maybe just more of the same story that we just keep hearing it's like yeah it's the same thing that happened in dallas Yeah.
Just a couple days ago.
That's Dallas.
Do you like mixed metaphors?
I love them.
Yeah.
They will round you up like cattle.
Okay.
They'll put you like fish in a barrel so that they can take all of you out, as many of you as possible, and then they'll say that you were the one who pulled the trigger.
Don't allow them to round you up.
Fight right away.
Just like with the mugger, we've told you, hey, someone wants your wallet.
Someone wants your watch, give it to them.
If they tell you to get on your knees, you fight right now.
If they tell you to get out of a public place and go into an alley, you fight right now.
You have to do that with the left.
If they just want to say, you suck, I hate you, fine.
But if they start to escalate, they start to ask you to get to your knees.
If it's raising their voice, calling you a fascist, calling you a Nazi, fomenting hatred to the gang of people there, we see how that ends up.
Put a stop to it now.
I am advocating for lawful, protective violence.
Oh, that's right.
It's lawful violence, not defensive violence.
It's like shooting beef in a barrel.
Wait, excuse me?
And then they'll tell you that you shot them.
And they'll tell you, you shot yourself.
What?
Fool.
Excuse me?
If they're just saying you suck, that's fine.
But if they call you a fascist, that's when you need to shoot them.
Yeah, exactly.
With a furry bullet.
Wait, excuse me?
An enchanted furry bullet.
You know, I've been like waking up in a cold sweat every night this last couple of weeks.
Just have had this nightmare and it doesn't stop.
Oh, do you want me to cut this from the show?
I don't know.
Maybe somebody, maybe, maybe there's somebody to answer.
Maybe somebody can answer this out there.
They can tell me what it means.
And I think, you know, it's obviously he gets shot with the furry bullet.
It's enchanted by a furry bullet.
Yeah.
It goes through his neck and it takes his life from him.
And this is awful.
But then he goes to heaven and he's just like a big blue dog.
And he's trying to get into the fucking gates, you know?
And they're like, he gets to the front of the line and he's like, I'm ready to go.
And they turned him away because dog heaven is separate from human heaven.
Oh no, he's in some sort of like middle.
He's not, he can't go to animal heaven and also can't go to human heaven.
Yeah, yeah, he's stuck.
So they got, well, well, that they got to send him to dog heaven.
He waited so long to get into human heaven that they got to send him dog heaven.
Well, if it was a purple cat suit, then he would be in purgatory.
Right?
Meows.
Thank you.
Okay.
All right.
Key fact number four.
this shooter, this gay, radical, liberal, homo, will never have a chance to refinance his home.
No, no, make me come back here.
I said, come back here.
You know what it is.
Josh, where's my money?
American finance.
You restructured that loan.
You're supposed to be handing me my money.
It's an American Finance ad that they do.
Based on the, I think, the film American Gangster.
Okay.
And they imply that Steven Crowder is going to get in blackface using shoe polish to play Denzel Washington.
Great.
Great.
I love his accent.
He's a really great accent.
He's pretty good.
They made him dial it back for the.
Hey, we're getting paid for this one.
You can't do the 70s pimp thing that you're constantly known for.
I'm not really into this American finance company, if I'm being honest.
But, you know, if that's who they want to hire to do their stuff, that's fine.
Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's not the first time, so I'm sure that they're aware of the content of the show.
Yeah, and then we return for a commercial break.
Yes.
That's right.
There's a segue.
Hey, Toolman, if I want to do something right now, can you just hit numbers like one, two, three, four?
Just as I just follow me as I go.
Yeah, the uh no, I'm just gonna have been hitting or yeah, but just start back at one, two, three, four.
Okay, so look, I want to be really clear.
Sometimes people, it's it's tough to come up with solutions.
Uh, I'm gonna give you the solution to this problem.
Steven got an idea during the break, yeah.
And hearing Toolman so casually be like, you mean it's like the ones I've been pushing like just like casual, like training a new hire how to use a POS?
Well, like I don't think Tim is supposed to be running sound overlays, I think that they've officially lost another sound guy.
Oh, dang, yeah, anyways, what happens?
Oh, okay, we're going to get to people saying, tone down the rhetoric, and we're going to get to the educators who are encouraging children to watch this video and to believe that Charlie Kirk or you are a fascist.
All right, here's how you deal with this.
Okay.
Number one.
Number one: set your mind to protection, including violence.
I don't want to see any more of you physically harmed.
And I don't even mean shot dead.
I don't want to see any more of you harmed.
I don't want to see any more of you hit with rocks, milkshakes, concrete, or strawberry vanilla.
Don't care.
Okay.
I'll take a strawberry one now, actually.
It sounds really good.
What could Charlie Kirk have done to if he had set his mind to violence?
Okay, you just put your hands up to your neck, right?
Did you do a sound overlay?
You should have seen it.
He actually, yeah, he did, but he crossed his hands almost in like a Wolverine stance.
But he had his hands over his neck.
Yeah.
Are we healing?
We're like making jokes about this man now.
You know, don't camel me.
I don't think we're making jokes about him.
Here's the thing: we're making fun of fucking Steven.
Yeah.
Like, that's, I think, the clearest thing is all this is like, I'm not making fun of Charlie Kirk's death.
I'm making fun of Stephen's.
People podcast just took us out.
Of thinking there was something that he could do.
Yeah.
There's nothing you could do.
And that's also why gun control needs to be a thing.
Because it was instant, just done.
Yeah.
Preventable.
Could have been preventable.
Yeah.
Just like any of these.
And you're right.
That shit was fucking crazy how fast it was over for this man.
There's just one of those things where it's like, and unfortunately, we've all seen it like we were talking about earlier, but it's just like, you know that there's nothing that they can do for you at that point.
Yeah.
Yep.
The moment I saw that.
You just thank God that that spine stopped the bullet.
I cannot believe that's what people were saying.
That his spine stopped the bullet.
Oh, that was his pastor or his doctor said that.
Yeah, his doctor.
Was it his doctor?
Yeah.
He said, thank God his spine protected anyone else who could have been hit by that bullet.
Yeah, 30 ought six.
If you remember to look at a 30 ought six bullet going through a watermelon at a further distance, a miracle that his spine could stop that trajectory.
All right.
I mean, whatever you need to get through the day, I guess.
Watermelon everywhere.
Number two, this is how you.
What do you say?
Is this a solution?
Is that what he said?
Number two, we need to petition our representatives, those in government, to label Antifa, Black Lives Matter, terrorist organizations.
I have been championing this since 2019.
Okay, they need to be recognized as domestic terror threats.
If the left wants you to believe that white guys, period, just white guys.
That's the only qualifier.
White men in this country are domestic terrorists.
Okay, certainly those who actively take part in leftist organizations.
Let's start with Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
Crowder called it, guys.
He's old-tart this one.
He did.
Yeah, September 22nd, executive order from Donald Trump designating Antifa a domestic terror organization.
I hate the way he says Antifa.
Antifa?
Antifa.
Oh.
I feel like I've been there before.
Yeah, but he has a show.
Yeah, it's true.
I'm trying to think, though, how do I say it?
Antifa.
Antifa.
I just try to trump it.
I don't know.
Yeah, of course.
Antifa.
Maybe I hit the Antifa.
Do you want Antifa folks to be labeled?
Like a scarlet letter style?
I think we want my guess.
You're in DSA.
You're walking old women across the street.
Maybe you're doing Boy Scout adjacent activities.
You are a terrorist.
And I'm going to do violence against you.
Yeah, if you have a friend who comes out as trans and you do anything other than just run away.
Do violence against them yourself.
Instant protective violence.
Oh, my freaking eyes.
I got really close to, I looked at your cleavage and I saw your bulge.
Shit.
Oh, I thought they were doing the larry curly mo again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Boying me.
Yeah, Antifa does recruit, train, and radicalize young Americans.
It's two hands over the nose.
You got to protect yourself.
I mean, the strangest thing about this is like saying Antifa, which of course stands for anti-fascist, is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States government.
Like, you're the fascist then, right?
Like, yeah, it's like, it's just, it's more of just saying like the quiet part out loud.
They say they're Antifa, which you know is the left.
Yeah.
And it's like, okay.
So the right is fascists.
Uh-huh.
With that logic.
Yeah.
It's just kind of.
Ask any of these dipshits what their favorite thing to learn about in history class growing up, and they'd all tell you it's World War II.
Yeah, of course.
Was it secretly that they just like, well, the fucking like Nazi foot soldiers are like pretty tight, and I could see myself doing that.
Was that secretly the thing the whole time?
Yeah, yeah.
Fashion and school is fucked.
They don't even give a fuck about fashion.
They wear cargo shorts.
Can you imagine if not?
I mean, the current Nazis do kind of do that, I guess.
But it's kind of interesting, huh?
Antifa anti-fi, more like anti-fashion.
Okay.
Yeah.
What number are we on?
Number three.
Have a family.
Coach your family.
Teach your family.
Have these conversations at the dinner table.
If you can, get them out of public school, homeschool them, get them in private school by any means necessary.
Keep them as far away from the propagandizing institutions as humanly possible.
Wait, so indoctrinate your children.
That's right.
Procreate.
Didn't I just penetrate?
Bloviate for fucking 15 minutes or whatever about goddamn homeschool.
Do you think he's butting heads with Hillary about how to raise these kids at this point?
Yes, sure.
Do you think so?
I do believe so.
Wow.
Yep.
I believe that she's going to end up going farther left than he ever expected.
I'd be really interested to see that.
I don't think she'll ever be left.
I don't even think she'll ever really be center right, you know, but maybe.
I don't know.
That's bizarre to say have a family and then talk about this stuff at the dinner table.
That's right.
So what?
You want your children to be violent?
Like you want to have children so they can be violent.
Daddy daughter dates.
That's a fucking dark, weird way to look at things.
My dream has always been kids to do my bidding.
Since the beginning of my life, I said I want to grow up.
I want to have kids.
Meet the love of my life.
And I want to sing with my children the ballad of Tyler Robinson.
Wait, what?
Yep.
I want to.
He used to you Tyler Robinson.
I want to pass that song down to my children.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
As kind of like a hymn, a modern-day hymn.
A folk legend.
Yeah, folk.
You guys know folk legend Steven Crowder?
Oh, my God.
Do you know Fallout Boy cover legend Steven Crowder?
It's just like, I'm sorry.
Like, what a, what, okay.
What a weird thing to want, to desire.
Yeah, what's number five?
Four.
Four.
Identify those whose minds you can change.
Okay.
Talk with them.
This is a real opportunity.
I hate to even say that, but right now I've seen a lot of people.
I've had a lot of friends say, I have friends I'll never speak with again.
Because they were justifying the Charlie Kirk death.
People who don't talk to me about politics have said, you know what?
I went off on my friend the other day.
He said, well, if Charlie Kirk wasn't spewing hate, I just lost my crap and I hung up on him.
Good.
Good.
Learn the minds and hearts that you can shape, you can influence, and cut those who are evil and seek to do evil out of your life.
This has a good opportunity, I think, to talk to Steven about the.
If he understands that Charlie Kirk should not have been killed, he should be able to use this logic to understand that she was dressed in a certain way is not a defense.
Interesting.
I didn't, I had never considered the parallels.
You can't get mad and say Charlie wasn't asking for it and then also imply that women who have cleavage are asking for it.
Yeah.
You know, I'm not saying Stephen does that, but I'm saying like, I hope that someone can kind of recognize that like the way that we feel about the killing is that it is bad regardless of what happened.
But I'm not surprised.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm not surprised.
But also, I would say you can't say, oh, he was asking for it, just like you can't say she was asking for it because she dressed however she wanted or whatever.
It's a gross thing to, it's just gross.
That's all.
Yeah.
Just gross.
But having experienced this firsthand many times and some really close calls, I have been telling you since at least 2019 that Antifa, Black Lives Matter, they need to be designated as terrorist organizations.
I think now, those of you who agreed, they're finally going to hear you.
Does Antifa fit this definition?
Absolutely.
Not only do they fit the definition, keep in mind, terrorism, you don't necessarily have to commit violence.
You have to instill terror.
Antifa obviously does that, and then they go one step further and actually commit acts of violence.
So they're terrorist.
They're a terrorist organization plus plus.
We're wrapped for right now.
That's gonna get too dangerous.
Yep.
I'm sorry.
I got scared.
Apparently, an Antifa member was revving their motorcycle in front of his Change My Mind boy.
And he was just killing him.
Nope.
No, they weren't.
Just revisiting.
It was a lightly revving.
I thought it was like the violence, you know, the violence people that were coming for the trees around him with chainsaws.
They were cutting down trees.
Oh, sorry.
And they were doing violence against nature, I guess.
He cares about nature in this instance.
Or the violence against, I guess, like the windows and doors of government institutions, I suppose.
You know, when I first moved to Austin, these people firebombed the fucking governor's mansion.
Oh, geez.
Okay, really?
Yeah.
Rick Perry was not in there.
Thank goodness.
But then he spent a bunch of taxpayer money living out in West Austin for the rest of his tenure.
Anyway, it was a whole lot of hot man.
If the Steven of today was there back then, he would have shot that person.
I'm just saying it's like their idea of violence is not some human dying by the hand of like, yeah, I guess like sure.
Charlie Kirk is violence, but also like a glass getting broken is violence.
And a glass in a restaurant falls off of a fucking plate.
That's violence also.
If they disagree with the person ideologically, the waiter dropped it, but she has like a Ron Paul tattoo, a revolution tattoo.
You tried to kill me.
He tried to kill me.
Yeah, so it was violence.
Well, I don't know.
Have you been seeing the response to Donald Trump's escalator issue?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I saw Jesse Waters' bitch ass called it an insurrection.
Yeah.
He did.
I think Benny Johnson, and it isn't Benny Johnson.
I apologize, Benny, and don't take this too.
Please don't.
Sue us.
You see that Will Summer fucking quote from Benny Johnson earlier?
And he's talking about, he said, Charlie Kirk saved me from alcoholism and degeneracy.
And it's like, what are you talking about?
In addition to alcoholism, dot, dot, dot, degeneracy.
That was degeneracy.
Yeah.
What do you mean by that, you little fucking freak?
Benny Johnson said, well, no, I think Jesse Waters was the one that said that they should blow up the UN building.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think Benny Johnson said that it was an assassination attempt, that they left him exposed on the escalator.
It was like a videographer who hit the button accidentally.
It was somebody who worked for the White House.
Yeah.
Part of his team stopped it.
Guys, the teleprompter, too.
The teleprompter didn't work, but he went off the cuff, which like he's famously going off the cuff.
Yeah.
He was not exposed.
He was inside of a building.
This was not an assassination attempt.
He just had to walk upstairs.
He just like this?
I saw one of them go, like, but what about Melania?
Like, she could have like died on the stairs.
No, that, like, she can't climb.
Her legs don't work good because she's a woman.
They said Trump would have gotten up, but Melania could have been hurt.
And I said, what?
Trump's like 80.
Yes.
Like, Melania is like a fit person.
She could handle a fall on an escalator.
Not that I would ever wish that on her, you know, but like that's ridiculous.
Embarrassing behavior.
Just snowflake.
Melania's 55.
It's so early for this amount of snowfall, guys.
Yeah.
Big chance of snow, dude.
You guys know how much I love when Gerald gets to finally let loose at the end of these segments.
Yeah, really, really.
I love when it's like Jerry Springer's final thoughts.
Well, kind of.
It's Gerald's final solution.
So going to the both sides conversation.
This is not both sides.
No.
This is not both sides.
This is targeted violence against an ideology.
And they're saying, okay, well, what about what happened in Minneapolis?
We sat here and said, that is horrific what happened in Minneapolis.
There's evidence on both sides for what this guy could have believed.
I have no idea why it happened.
You didn't see Republicans cheering the death of these people.
That did not happen.
Didn't happen here.
What happens when we allow both sides is there's only one side that when we give in, they get everything they want.
They get open borders.
They get child trafficking numbers that just would boggle the mind.
300 plus thousand children going missing, being sold into sex slavery most likely, or just being forced into indentured servitude.
When they get everything they want, you get all economic policies, and you're like, oh, maybe that's good, maybe that's bad.
Well, when it breaks a country, it's pretty bad.
Yep.
They are just blind, man.
They're just totally blind.
They live in a different world, that's for sure.
Gerald believes in QAnon-style conspiracy theories about missing children.
Yep.
Being sold into 45,000 children go missing a day, Byron.
Okay.
And if that, and if you do the math on that, we're never going to see another child again in like five years.
Well, until we release them from underneath the Getty Museum.
True.
Holy fuck.
I will say that's where I saw Chrissy Teigen and I saw John Legend there.
And they said hello to me.
And they're saying hello to me.
Yeah, but they did the Illuminati gesture.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I was getting to it.
When their fucking eyes blinked the other direction from left to right.
Get out of here.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's too bad.
It was cool seeing a celebrity in LA, though.
A real debutante moment for me.
And he's just saying that quite part loud.
He's like, listen, we can't meet in the middle here because then they'll get what they want.
So we're going to have to just do defensive violence until every liberal's dead.
No, yeah, we will have to kill them.
Yes.
I can't wrap my head around it.
Well, he's not done, I guess.
So I'll give you some time to think.
What they want, because we back down, it's men and women's sports.
It's children being trans.
It's children being removed from their parents' arms because they don't agree with the trans ideology and setting up a trans safety zone for them in Minneapolis.
That's what happens.
This is not both sides of this situation.
I don't want to have to go and jump in the streets and get violent.
And neither do any of my friends here.
But at some point, they want the opposite of this country.
And so we have to push back.
This is Gerald's Civil War reenactment fantasy.
Yeah, it is.
I'm going to fight side by side.
Hello, every weekend at Laser Tag.
Gerald Morgan's going to fight you.
Gerald, come on.
Listen, you're not that guy, buddy.
I'm not that guy.
He's rolling up the sleeves.
He's got his little fucking...
I'm going to set down this Chick-fil-A bag and come kick your ass, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Hank Hill.
All right.
All right.
Really explicit.
Anti-trans Hank Hill.
Okay.
Josh stands up and his shoes untied.
Like, what are we talking about?
His fucking lemon party shirt, a fucking button.
Whoa.
This is the front line.
Like Avengers Assemble with CBS team.
Come on.
We got five foot two Tim.
Yeah, yeah.
He jumps.
He jumps down from his chair.
Oh, they do.
They do kind of, they've set it up.
You know, he's like, if I stand like a little bit closer to the camera, it's going to look a little bit more correct.
You know, got the Apple box.
I'm sorry.
This is, it's really.
Yeah, it's like Jeff Crowder falls out the closet.
He's got half of his costume on.
It reminds me of the internet meme.
Are we doing this?
It reminds me of the internet meme of the forgive me, I must go all out just this once.
I don't know that one.
Oh, it's so good.
Maybe I asked for a meme correspondent.
I think you might be the guy.
Dude, I'm here.
I'll talk about Skibdali all the time.
All right.
Listen, I guess we walked past his everyone's being trans fear, but I mean, I don't know.
You're trying to take my dick.
I don't want to take my dick.
Don't touch my dick.
This is a fight for dicks across the street.
And this is a meme.
It's the kid with like, he's got his arms crossed with like the blades.
Blades.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Forgive me, Trump.
I must go out.
Go all out.
Just this one.
All right.
So, Steve, I think he gives an ex this is maybe why he was unable to compose himself to the degree that he should have to have had a prepared show today.
This is worse than normal?
Well, kind of.
I mean, I guess we've talked about three hours about this, so maybe it is more dense than I initially thought.
Hey, before we get off the subject too far, I just want to say that for the last image of this, we got our five guys walking into like, you know, with the sun in the background, you know, our mug club assemble.
Yeah.
But underneath the fucking skyline looking down on them, furry Kirk.
He's stuck in purge.
All right.
Stephen had a tough day at church.
Oh, buddy.
I'll tell you the truth.
I went to church this Sunday and I left early.
And I'm never going to misuse this where people say panic attack.
I've had three panic attacks in my life.
I can tell you when I had them.
People often misuse it.
But there was a creeping anxiety with people coming in and seeing people at the pulpit, seeing people exposed, knowing that you're in a crowded place that you can't control.
I went through this.
And, you know, of course, what happens if you're a public figure?
People may try and tell you that you're paranoid or you're agoraphobic.
No, it's a legitimate fear.
And I'm going to have to work on that.
I know that a lot of us are.
But I'll tell you this: you can't take away the fear.
The left has been effective with that.
They have been effective with that.
They have made you afraid to speak your mind.
You need to speak.
You need to be a disciple anyway.
You can't take away the fear.
But you can make them just as afraid.
They can make you just as scared of the knockout game as we are.
Listen, okay.
And this is where I could.
That's such dork-ass shit.
Yeah.
Get him a poster.
Can we ship him a poster?
That says what?
Exactly what he just said.
Yeah, okay.
Make them more afraid.
Ship him that with a picture of him like sitting in like a dark room.
With the blades, dude.
We'll just send him with the fucking blades.
Guys, I could see how this, like, because I watched the reaction from a handful of streamers to this.
Like, people from Hassan to Destiny to even like some of the people who were there, like Parker, the guy who does TikTok debates.
Sure.
This is a really dangerous time to have a public political presence, right?
Sure.
And I understand why Steven would be super anxious around this.
You know, he's said a lot of really inflammatory stuff from behind a desk.
And on occasion, a plane will fly over.
There'll be a certain time.
The publication is live.
That was not my intention in pointing that out.
No, no, no, no.
I didn't get that either.
I get it.
I get this, though.
I understand why he's scared.
And I don't think that I don't think anyone should have to be scared.
I feel horrible.
People like Hassan.
Hassan was supposed to have a debate with Charlie Kirk in the middle.
Yeah, this weekend.
He has to now change his life and worry that he's now a target.
Totally.
And that is not how anyone should be feeling.
We only debate in Europe for moving.
No.
All American debates happen in Europe.
Is that how it goes now?
No guns, they just stab him instead.
Yeah, and we got to get a bunch of these blade kids to protect them.
Yeah, a whole like army of them at the front.
Yeah, like I just a lot of fedoras.
I just think it's it's really sad, like, because I understand why he's feeling this way.
I mean, in to a certain degree, um, you know, I hope that he rethinks his presence in public, you know, reflects on some of the stuff that he said that may have caused the turning up of the temperature, right?
Of course, yeah, yeah, which brings me to today's episode of the podcast where Steven isn't there.
Gerald is there, though.
Okay.
I uh I was gonna cover this episode, but I saw Gerald, of course, and I fled, but not before I learned this.
Yeah, listen, we are not gonna surrender this space.
The left wants us silenced and off of college campuses.
We refuse to let that happen, and that is why Change My Mind is coming back.
So, get ready.
Whoa, yeah.
So, we're gonna go back and reclaim the crown, he said.
Yeah, at this point, there's gonna be this new Game of Thrones style battle for power, this vacuum that exists between people like Steven Crowder and Nick Fuente.
It is kind of interesting that he's doing this, uh, gives us something to take a little bit of time.
Has he done a change my mind since Sam Cedar thing?
Nope.
Oh, man, Sam Cedar's gotta crash one.
Uh, I'm trying to think.
When has it?
I don't know.
It's been over, it's been about over three years since Steven Crowder has done a change my mind.
I really want Sam Cedar to crash it.
Wouldn't that be wonderful?
That'd be great.
Oh, no.
Sam Cedar, what a fucking nightmare.
What a fucking nightmare.
Oh, oh, no.
Whoa, what a fucking nightmare.
That's the one.
Yeah.
And that's all I can handle for this week.
Oh.
This one really made me mad, man.
I cannot stand Steven.
I mean, I can't stand Steven General.
Yeah.
But this is so inflammatory.
This is so like, listen up.
This Thanksgiving, stab your brother-in-law with a knife.
Yeah, if he takes the dark meat or says anything about Native Americans.
Hey, uncles.
Hey, collective uncles that listen to my show and your liberal nieces and nephews.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who's the audience listening to?
It's definitely the uncles for sure.
Of course it's us.
Hey, did your niece go to college and become indoctrinated?
Liberal arts degree?
Does she have one?
I think it's time to waterboard lives until they turn conservative.
With the gravy.
Yeah.
Well, if you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
Written review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Guys, listen, we avoided, we avoided heavy topics for weeks.
Far back.
I think one of the most interesting things, the delayed release of the last two episodes, was the one we're like, oh man, the last episode that was released, we're like, what a week.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, and I was like, we didn't just record that.
No, no.
We were talking about the shooting at that Catholic school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I felt the same feeling.
I was like, what the fuck?
What a week.
And then the next episode, what a week.
What a fucking week.
Even worse, huh?
All right.
That's crazy.
If you want to talk about the week, you know, find us on X or blue sky at Dan Crowder, louderthancrowder.com, wokeyoutube.com.
Pardon me.
I was going to say louder with Crowder.net FlipperZero is written here.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Flipper Zero.
Absolutely bought one of those.
Don't say that yet.
I did get a response from FlipperZero.
Whoops.
They didn't care about our pitch.
No?
No.
What did they say?
They're not interested in supporting the show.
Okay, well, fuck them.
I'm going to give a Flipper 2.
Flipper 1.
What's up for Flipper Zero?
I'm going to get a Flopper Jiro.
All right.
It's going to be fucking hearty as hell, dude.
Fucking lamb and beef, bitch.
Fuck you guys.
I'm not sure what the next episode's going to look like.
But hopefully next week we don't say what a fucking week.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just thought of that.
That'd be cool.
But at this rate, you know, with the public right-wing extremism research that was removed immediately following the shooting here, it was somewhere between September 12th and 16th.
Yeah.
All of that research was removed from the DOJ's website.
We've got Antifa becoming a terror organization.
And then I don't know if you saw just a couple hours ago, James Comey.
Indicted, baby.
For being the leader of Antifa or what?
Yeah, they said that he actually was paying, him and George Soros were paying for all of this.
That's right.
Very cool.
And they actually kidnapped all the Israeli people who were.
I bet it was probably Richard DeVos.
Yeah.
Really cool stuff.
You put your goddamn niece or whatever, Betty DeVos, in there.
Ruin education for everybody.
Remember when we thought that was as bad as it could get?
Oh, yeah.
And then Linda McMahon took over.
The same job.
Did you guys see there's going to be a DOC fight at the White House?
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Cool as hell, huh?
It's really cool.
I like you guys a lot.
Yeah, thanks for supporting our little program here.
Again, I don't have a job.
Shrug.club.
More time coming.
Yeah, really excited for the future here.
I think it's going to be a lot more double saluting.
So put your hands to your forehead, both of them.
Start lifting so you can get your hands up.
And until next time, I'm Byron.
I'm Dinner.
And I am Jared.
Good night.
And take care.
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