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Oct. 25, 2025 - Louder Than Crowder
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EPISODE 73: LAWFUL VIOLENCE DEFENSIVELY PT. I (SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025)

This week...we talk about a horrifying, shocking act, and how Steven is looking to make this about himself while escalating and advocating violence.  This is not a fun show.  "THE BOYS" shirts are available NOW! Like what we're doing?  Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub  Theme music by DJ Danarchy

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This is an AudioWool original.
Counting or not counting gang violence.
This is an AudioWool original.
Well, no Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast louder with Crowder.
My name's Byron.
Joined tonight across from me in a t-shirt.
Is that Salomon?
That's not even a t-shirt.
It's a button.
Oh, well, it is short sleeves.
I would say it's Salmon.
It's got some grease stains on there for Dennis Dennis is here.
Hey, what up?
And our lone star brother in Occupied Texas, it's Jared.
Greetings, fellow Shargars.
It is Slur Nation.
This is not going to be a fun episode.
Yeah.
Come on.
Well, we can do our best, I guess.
In the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk on September 1st.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
On September 10th.
A day where a comedian, Stephen Crowder, in the fog of the offense decided to live stream for about three hours, maybe a little bit more, to an audience that again resumed their synchronized, frenzied chanting and fist slamming in the chat.
Where's the manifesto?
And another transgender, along with a lot of other stuff, I think.
Terrible thing.
We pulled so many.
Yes.
It was Slur Nation.
It was Slur Nation.
Hello.
Slur Nation.
Let's get weird in the comments.
And this was all before a suspect was even identified.
I'm not going to drag us through that day.
I actually have no idea how long it's been.
Two weeks?
Two weeks ago.
Two weeks.
Okay, it feels like a million years.
But yeah, we are going to be covering the September 15th episode of Flutter with Crowder.
So we are going to be going back to it a little bit.
And I was thinking that maybe if we give Steve and the boys the weekend to breathe and kind of get their heads on straight, that they would return a little bit more rational.
I don't think so.
Maybe even lower the temperature.
I think he like sat and smoked a cigar and like just yelled, Gerald, start the stream!
I think he's a big fan of making sure there's no windows around him.
Yeah.
Guy's scared, huh?
Oh, yeah, the episode is called It Isn't Both Sides.
They crossed the Rubicon when they killed Charlie.
I want to say a couple of things.
Last week, some words I think could be taken out of context.
And I want to be really, really clear, especially while we're at this boiling point in our country where people may take some clips and tell you that Stephen Crowder is irresponsible.
He advocated violence.
That's right.
I am.
Cooler heads are not prevailing.
Steven has returned, clarifying his statement that he wants people to be more violent with a doubling down.
I've only watched a little bit of Steven since this happened.
It made me so angry when he was on Piers Morgan.
That clip you sent him.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I watched the whole thing.
He's angry, but he's almost like jealous of the attention.
Well, we'll get into that a little bit more.
Didn't me on Piers Morgan say something like he's the reason Charlie Kirk even started doing what he's doing?
He at least implied that.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little bit.
It's just so weird.
He is jealous.
That's so weird.
He also wants to be.
I want to be crystal clear about that.
I am advocating for lawful violence defensively that has been abandoned for years, and I want it to replace where grace was afforded before.
So I want to be clear, I'm not calling for anyone to go out in the street and commit random acts of violence or even targeted acts of violence.
That is not what I am calling for.
But I am calling for lawful violence to protect you and your own where you afforded grace to the left before.
We need escalated self-defense.
Steven what the fuck does that mean Well we want unreasonable irrational response To Alright guys listen up I'm calling right now, as a nation, we need to come together and do self-defense.
Okay.
Against.
We need to do proactive self-defense.
Hmm.
And what are they going to be doing when we're doing this to them?
Violence.
Okay, so they got to do violence first, but we're going to answer with violence.
Yes, exactly.
Sure.
Okay.
They've been so graceful up until now.
But he didn't say that, I guess.
We said that for him.
Now, what do I mean by that?
Okay.
Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't have gotten anything other than a pat in the back and good shooting as a comment for what he did if all of us had been acting in self-preservation the right way.
What?
Well, I mean, Kyle Rittenhouse, one of the biggest examples of lawful violence.
He wants that to be normal.
It seems like that's what he's saying.
He's saying, yeah, Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn't be a standout.
Lawful violence is in like you drive to a different state with a big-ass fucking rifle.
Yes, God.
High-five some cops.
And a car dealership that you don't own or have any affiliation.
Yes.
Yeah, I don't know these people, but like it's my duty to protect the vehicle.
What?
What if Bumblebee's in there and they're going to sell him to me?
It's ShylaBuff's like, hop in.
I feel like here are phrases that you can say to get people riled around.
Here's how you can trick someone into assaulting.
Say something, you think.
You're going to hit me, little bitch.
Here's the legalities of we're going to do some entrapment training classes.
There we go.
Wonderful.
I mean, he's talking about protecting yourself and also property.
Kind of like what Kyle Rittenhouse did, right?
The McCloskeys, I believe was their name.
Remember them in Missouri?
Protecting their own property with their own guns on their own porch.
And they had to go through years of legal battles.
That shouldn't be an outlier.
It shouldn't be an outlier.
It should be the norm.
Okay.
It should be normal to go on your porch with an AR-15 and a pistol and point them at protest.
Point of it protests.
We were just walking by your house.
Yeah.
Mark and Patricia McClowski, they're a St. Louis couple who pointed AR-15s and handguns at protesters outside their home in June 2020.
They were like the opposite Adams family, like just like the dumbs family.
Like in my head, they're just like they're wearing like all white and they kind of like, what's the groove from the minions?
It is a little bit like that.
It's like two grew with he was actually wearing a pink short sleeve button-up, which is a polo.
No, it was just a shirt, but Patricia was wearing what seems to be maybe a faded glory-striped boatneck shirt.
Yeah.
But yeah, they do look really cool holding that machine gun with that pink shirt in front of their nice historic home.
The grip on the gun, I just remember was like historically like her.
Maybe don't point that anyway.
She was like pointing while also pointing the gun.
Yeah.
She gesticulating.
She kind of is, yeah.
So, I mean, yeah, they did have, there was a bit of an extensive legal battle.
When was that?
That was in 2020, in June, during the Black Lives Matter protest.
Yeah.
They were mad because they were going through their private gated community, I guess.
Okay.
Yeah, they were walking through it and they're like, stay off our grass.
They were so afraid.
Behind every blade of this grass, a gun, actually.
So watch out.
That's all right.
So that's my favorite movie, Gun, Actually.
Rom-com.
But yeah, so they argue that they felt threatened and that they were defending their property.
But yeah, they were just pointing guns at protesters and not a good look.
Say something.
Basically, I mean, the interesting thing is she was also charged with tampering with evidence because when they submitted the gun, I think she made it intentionally inoperable, but they were able to later reassemble it and test-fire it.
Okay.
Yeah.
So attempting to make it seem as if it wasn't usable, I guess.
Yeah, but my grandpa gave me this gun when he pointed it at black people back in the 40s.
It's just like a historical heirloom where I like.
This is a racist heirloom for my family.
So basically, I mean, they pled it down.
Fourth-degree assault for Mark because he had that big machine gun at his hands.
Patricia got a harassment charge.
And I think fines were like, I don't know, I'm sure they spent a lot in court fees, but it was like.
Seeing that picture again and how fucking dumb they were.
Wait, how did Mark Mark had to pay $7.50 and Patricia had to pay $2,000?
How much time did they serve any?
None, of course not.
No, but they did have to surrender their firearms.
It's a women's rights issue.
That's like buying a new set of tires for your car.
Well, yeah, and these guys were clearly wealthy.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, if it's a fine, then they didn't have anything.
They had some discomfort from dealing with the fact that they were fucking schmucks.
And wait a second.
This is the violence that Steven's talking about.
We got way far away from that.
He wants lawful violence.
Like, you know, pointing guns at people walking by.
Sure, sure.
Great idea.
You're going to see a highlight reel here that's going to make you really angry of people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk because I think it's important to know who your enemy is.
There is no reasoning with these people.
What I mean is every single time someone threw a would-be or sometimes was concrete milkshake at a change my mind table.
Every time someone picked up a rock and launched it at one of our heads, every time we got sucker punched, every time we got collar dragged, every time we got somebody coming up throwing over the table or trying to tackle someone, it used to be, hey, hey, hey, calm down because a standard for those in the right is perfection as far as nonviolence.
Now, the second someone raises their voice or comes in hot and they are told to knock it off because they're presenting a threat.
I want righteous, lawful violence to replace mercy and grace where that is what existed before.
If a kid is loud at me when I go on a campus and say racist stuff, I want you to point a gun at them.
I'm sick of this.
This is so dumb.
What is he saying?
He's directly calling for violence by just acting like he's not.
Every time that you grab his nose and then bonk your fist with your other hand and act like you fucking took his nose off of his face and you go.
You know, every time that you've tried to like fix a door and someone keeps opening it up and knocking over your paint bucket or whatever.
Or they grab your hand and they're slapping your face and then they're like, why are you keep hitting yourself?
Why you keep hitting yourself?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is political violence.
For years, Jared, when the left has tried to poke your eyes with their two fingers.
He's calling for you to put your hand between your face.
No, no, he's saying enough of that.
He's saying, actually, he's saying put your second hand in front of your first hand that's already on your face, just in case her fingers are a little longer than your four.
Crazy.
Very incendiary, just like it is.
It was the reaction to what he's saying here, which clearly this is baiting.
And every time he does this, Pierce Morgan falls for the bait.
And that's why Steven Crowder was on the Pierce Morgan show defending his, I'm calling for violence quote on Joe Walsh.
Yeah, against Joe Walsh.
Yeah.
Kind of an interesting debate.
Not really, though, because Joe Walsh was just like, dude, you are really sounding like an idiot, right?
Yeah, well, I mean, the simple thing was just, he's like, okay, so you're upset about concrete milkshakes.
And again, there's no evidence that there was a concrete milkshake thrown at Steven Crowder.
Maybe it was a concrete from like Freddy's.
And this is the Joe Walsh from the Eagles.
No, this is a different.
I do get that mixed up sometimes as well.
He's in the Eagles.
No, is that the guy?
The James kids.
It could be.
I have no idea.
He's a talk radio host.
Yeah, he might be.
I don't know.
Stephen was talking basically about like, if I get a concrete milkshake thrown at me, I need to commit my life to saving whoever's getting that thrown at them or something.
Yeah, okay.
It was really odd.
And then, so Joe was just like, okay, what if they throw it at Biden?
Would you do everything you could to stop them?
That would never happen, though.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Is that what he said?
It's basically exactly.
I mean, I get it.
Man, you're such a, like, and Joe's like, yeah, we don't want violence, man.
Like, we don't.
Well, and remember, Joe Walsh was a, he was a Republican until 2020.
Like, yeah.
I mean, at the end of the day, Steven just wants to be violent.
That's what it sounds like.
He wants violence.
I don't think he could do it himself.
I really don't think he could.
He's got to keep making the money.
I don't think he has the stomach for being violent.
But he's saying, I do need a little bit of you guys to give me content so I can make the money.
Exactly.
Every time I've seen him faced with violence.
He runs away from it.
Yeah.
And I'm not blaming him for that.
That's how I would respond as well.
But I think he's talking really big right now.
Oh, he totally is.
Yeah.
He's definitely got his little Joker makeup coming out for sure.
Yeah.
He's trying to get the henchmen out there to do the bidding for him for sure.
See, Steven was ready.
He hit the Zoltar calculation.
Everyone's around the glow of a Zoltar machine.
Oh, man.
With Steven in it.
Do we have a photoshop Steven in the Zoltar?
Can someone get Steven in a Zoltar machine?
Thank you.
Thanks.
I've sat across from, at this point, hundreds of people, and I've always said this, the change my mind, the idea behind it, it's the most important skill set is being able to find out whose minds you can change and who has bought into the lie or who has bought in so much to the narrative that they are willing to perpetuate the lie versus those whose minds can be changed.
And you need to treat them differently.
And now you need to treat those who are perpetuating the lie as the threat that they are.
And that is within your legal right.
I don't need to point this out, but I will.
It's been about three years since Steven Crowder has done a change my mind.
He hasn't done a change my mind since we started the show.
Yeah.
But he continues to pretend like he's not.
If he did, we would go to her.
Clearly, we would be there to debate him.
Just like what if it was Stephen, I think Stephen Monticelli was the last guy.
Journalistic.
I got a new one, and it's called Black and White on the Gray Issues.
Yeah, I'm going to go.
Did he do two Black and White on the Gray issues where he'll trick him into one?
Well, the last Change My Mind, to my knowledge, was with Stephen Monticelli, who's a journalist from Austin, Texas.
He's written for tons of people.
It's just funny to me that the final change my mind, Steven actually had to debate a non-college student.
Fucked him up.
Oh, I bet it did.
I bet it did.
Yeah.
He's like, wait, this doesn't work.
Steven's lying about Change My Mind being, it's not for its namesake, it's It's not trying to.
And he just said that so much, right?
He's like, well, you can't, some minds just can't be changed.
Well, and he says that it exposes the true evil of the person you're sitting across from.
He calls them the enemy.
That is where, and I haven't seen enough Charlie Kirk, what was his called, not convinced me otherwise, which is prove me wrong.
I haven't seen enough of him, but from what I have seen, it did seem like, I mean, while his logic was flawed, he was like actually interested in having like a real debate with other people.
I mean, I think so.
I don't know if he wanted to.
Not even like a direct, you know what I'm saying?
But I think he just was kind of like, he had the empathy of saying, I understand where you're coming from, and I think it's dumb.
Yeah, I think he truly believed what he was saying.
I think Stephen Crowder is looking to embarrass people.
I guess prove himself right, you know, instead.
Change our mind is and always has been, well, not is anymore because it's over, but it's always been this like ego stroke.
You know, he wants content to show him fighting with people.
I think that that's what you're trying to say.
I think that Charlie Kirks were different.
And I'm not saying they were good.
He wanted to grow Turning Point USA.
That was his whole thing.
Yeah.
Stephen did not want to grow anything.
Steven wanted to grow his audience.
And so his audience was grown by content of fights.
Turning point USA was grown by bringing people over to his ideas.
Not saying that they didn't do it for a monetary reason as well, but just different monetary reasons.
But kind of goes into the same thing where it's like, if you're not having your ideological struggle on its face, then what are people grabbing onto if not your wallet for a little while?
Hey, like, we love this guy.
Give him your money until it's just sort of like, where are you leading us?
Yeah.
I think that's like why it's so easy with like Trump or something like that.
And it's not even that they're being led by Trump.
It's that there's like a victory there.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
No, I told you.
Sorry.
I laughed because there was one point where you went, and it was like a weird, like, I sound like a soundbite.
So Byron will pull it when he plays it.
Of course I will.
Yeah.
I played a game the way.
That's what it sounds like.
So this is still the cold open.
This is still the cold open?
Still the cold open, but this is the last part of that.
Yeah.
The McCloskeys shouldn't be in a it shouldn't even be It should be a footnote.
Kyle Rittenhouse, a man shot at him, was raising a gun to him, and he shot his bicep.
That's the kind of John Wick shooting that we don't think exists in the real world.
And he shouldn't have had to wait for it to get that far.
Because you either wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait, or you end up with a situation like Charlie Kirk.
What the fuck is he talking about?
Well, he's saying that Kyle Rittenhouse is an incredible shooter, almost John Wickian.
Stephen also forgets to mention that Kyle Rittenhouse had already killed two other people before a man tried to stop him by pulling out his gun and attempting to disarm Kyle.
Not even shoot Kyle.
This guy was trying to disarm Kyle and Kyle shot him in the bicep.
This 17 year old boy had killed two people at a protest.
Yeah, that was, think about that person pulling the gun.
That's a hero.
A bad guy with a gun.
Let me be the good guy with the gun.
An attempt, but.
Yeah.
Kyle Rittenhouse against everybody.
It's just, you think that Kyle Rittenhouse purposefully shot a man in the bicep?
Or did Kyle Rittenhouse piss his pants, fall on his back, and accidentally shoot someone in the arm?
Yeah.
It was a warning shot just to the bicep.
Is that what that was?
Yeah, yeah.
Do you know that?
Remember that game we used to play for Wii where he could slow down time doing surgery?
Yeah, I love that game.
That's what Rittenhouse does.
He does that with his mind.
Exactly.
So someone's like, he sees the gun and then he draws a star shape in the middle of his screen with the Wii Mote.
Oh, cool.
And it goes, that is a wild poll.
How many people you think are going to get that?
Trauma Center's second opinion?
I know.
Everyone knows Trauma Center's second opinion.
I know what it is because of Dennis.
Because this is not the first time he said that.
I'm a brand ambassador for Trauma Center.
I mean, horrifying to imply that because this person was attempting to arm.
Yeah, the third person to get shot that day by Kyle Rittenhouse's 17-year-old boy with an illegal gun.
What a dark take.
The thing is, regardless, if you look at Kyle Rittenhouse and what happened there, you have to agree that that is things getting out of hand.
100%.
Regardless of what side you're on, things got out of hand and people died.
It goes kind of also into this conversation that I've seen a lot this last couple of weeks here of people saying that like, Charlie Kirk wasn't racist.
You're just taking him out of context.
And, you know, like that whole thing.
And oftentimes, like, the context is sort of just the racism or something like that, right?
Like, the assumption is not necessary.
Yeah, necessarily like the thing that the person is saying.
But I guess like what I'm trying to say is, though, is that like Charlie Kirk did like a really not unique thing where he would couple information.
So it's like he doesn't explicitly say that black people are bad, but he'll give you two bits of information side by side that allow you to draw the conclusion that, oh, that he's talking about black people and black people are bad.
Just to be like to speak the math, right?
So Steven is like just doing the playbook.
He is doing the exact same thing that Charlie Kirk does.
And he's coupling information so that you, the listener, draws the conclusion.
You paint the picture.
It's theater of the mind.
Well, and the people who defend it, I think, are super interesting.
Like, we'll just use the clip where he's saying, if I see a black pilot, I feel uncomfortable.
Right.
Well, it's just because DEI.
And then I'm like, well, that's still racist of you to say that.
Yeah, that's still racist.
So you're taking one step back from the racist thing that Charlie Kirk explicitly said, explaining why he said it.
That wasn't direct racism.
That was veiled racism.
Oh, you're right.
Great point.
But also, like, the question of like, how would you know that that's DEI?
And it just is the answer every time is that it's like because it's because like DEI gives them a reason to have doubt, but that that doubt is like primed because of these things and how they talk about it.
That's sort of, that's the whole thing.
That's what Charlie Kirk did.
That's why people say he's racist because it's like, yeah, he may have not, like I said, said the quiet part out loud.
He just like gave you all the information to draw the conclusion.
Yeah, well, it just reminds me of when you have somebody online or who, you know, in person who says, oh, I'm an immigrant and they're white and someone says, oh, yeah, but you came here the right way without any further question.
It's just, oh, you're white, so you must have come here the right way.
You know what I mean?
And that's the same thing with the DEI thing.
It's just like, oh, I, you know, they want DEI because it gives them a reason to doubt, like you said, oh, it's a black guy.
Cool.
I have a reason to doubt him now.
Great.
Yeah.
You know, that I can say it's not racism.
Yeah.
I have a name for something else that I can use to be racist, but not call it racism.
I'm not going to use the N-word.
I'm going to say DEI instead.
Specifically in this 110-year-old industry that is like commercial flight, certainly there would have had to have been a great black pilot, no?
No.
And it's just like the doubt, like that alone, like forget like World War II and like World War I and like specifically like black armories that went out and like, I don't mean to say armories, but like battalions?
Yeah, infantries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That flew planes and like were bombers themselves.
It's just that there's like this rich history of like, just like this really simple thing, flying planes.
It's not, and I'm not to say that it's simple or something like that, but it's like, and we actually look at like flying planes is this prestigious thing anyway because it's like well, it just requires training that hundreds of hours capable of doing, though.
Yeah, just like it's broad and if you can do it, then you can do it.
And if there's like, you see a commercial pilot, like, what are the chances he came from a military background flying planes?
Like, probably pretty fucking good.
When it comes to flying, the standards are extreme.
Oh, yeah.
You have to do so many hours to be a commercial airline pilot.
So many.
You have to have all these different certifications.
Unless you're black, of course.
Unless you're black.
And then they just let you do it.
Yeah.
DEI, you get like a, it's like when you golf and you have a disability.
That's what DEI gets you.
It's like.
So yeah, if you're black, you need to score a 60 or higher.
If you're white, you need to score a 90 or higher.
That makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
It has nothing to do with passing certifications.
Equal opportunities to go.
Insane.
In very long opening to this show, I think it's time to kick things off.
Let's go, baby.
After I take a second to thank some folks for their support over at Shrug.
Oh my god.
Fuck you.
Shrug Nation.
You entered the Shrugged Union.
Oh, Daddy.
I'm feeling really good about that one.
What a good take, Jerry.
So you're adding a little bit.
It's like almost a Winnamp style.
Yeah, yeah.
You're whipping the llama.
Really whips the llama's ass.
Wonderful.
That one's for the homies.
That one's for the.
That's a classic.
Fuck, I miss Winamp.
All right.
Yeah, I just had a flight.
That was like the first day we hung out.
We hung out with played around with Winamp skins.
We played Winamp skins and played DDR on emulators.
Oh, wow.
Very good.
Dang.
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But Jared and I, I don't know, a couple days after the Charlie Kirk assassination hopped on and did a couple hours kind of talking about our feelings surrounding that.
Appreciate the response to that.
And someone pointed out some corrections to our coverage as well, which is very appreciated.
But you should also know that we did that kind of very quickly in the Have to Admonish something.
I wish I had the admonish, but Steven's probably about to hit us with some correction.
Actually, Stephen Crubber is very kind.
All right.
We'll get to those admonishments later in the show.
But yeah, some folks choose to support us there.
A lot of them do, but some choose to do it financially.
And since I did put in a four weeks' notice at my job, we really do appreciate this.
Bigly.
You quit?
I did.
Dennis's busy season's almost over.
Like, look at this.
Look at you.
Y'all have about 20 years.
You guys just wait.
You guys just wait.
Come Christmas.
Listen.
Come Christmas.
We're your present this year.
Oh, right.
Unwrap me.
What?
Okay.
Give us your Alex Jones, please.
As soon as I'm ready.
As soon as I'm ready, I'll come on you first.
Close.
Ah, thanking some folks here.
Of course, that would be.
Oh, thank you, Big Lee, to Andrew.
And Drew.
Could be two names if your first name was And your middle name is Drew.
And I guess.
Pardon me.
You piece of shit.
Oh, I didn't even say it.
I didn't even say it.
Say it, dude.
Say it.
You guys were talking.
You were giving you space.
So I just wanted to say if you say Andrew, it rhymes very well with thank you.
You piece of shit.
Wonderful.
And also, Lou Sass.
Lou Sass.
Yes.
Oh, what the fuck?
You guys.
Oh, my God.
What?
Did you hear that?
No.
Ring ring.
Answer the phone real quick.
Ring ring.
Hello.
Yeah, I'm looking for Lou.
Last name's ass.
Oh, we got freaking strength.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you for that.
These jokers, these jokers got ass.
What a piece of shit.
If you like what we're doing and want to help, well, I guess if you want us to say your name and want to support us financially so we can do more and be better and live now.
Also, I want to let anyone know that if they put their name, they don't need to disguise it.
They can put their name as like Amanda Huggins.
Big dick and balls, and we'll read it.
Like your social security number and your address or something, also.
Listen, guys, it could be like, my name is 5796-3210-4719.
8-1.
Expiration date is 1128.
The CC to God.
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I said it at the top of the show.
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Yeah, once you are got by loose ass, dude.
I can't believe you're.
Good job to that guy.
I kind of like the idea of them doing those, though.
That's pretty good.
It's pretty sick.
If people want to make us read, yeah, that's a real shrug rat type of shit right there.
I want to be Moed.
We're old people, dude.
We're old people.
They can trick us.
Would you be mad at me if I lied when I said that that was the end of his cold open?
You've lied to me before.
He keeps going.
The left continues to celebrate.
The left continues to inspire more violence.
But even then, they continue to lie.
They want to sow rancor within the conservative community even.
Here's an example.
Just ours, I guess, our experience here.
Someone named Mayo Luna, the apparent, I guess, a CEO of Progress Libs, put out this post over the weekend.
Steven Crowder changed his bio to say number one conservative daily show a day after Charlie was murdered LMFAO.
That didn't happen.
Just to be clear, this is designed to make you think that people are at odds who are not at odds.
My biography on X has said that since August of 2023.
The number one conservative daily show, Monday through Friday, 10 a.m.
Eastern.
Oh, fuck, fine.
I'll put my fucking hand out and you can put your cigar out on my wrist.
Let's not do that.
Chill out, dude.
Admonish.
I mean, this is one of the notes that we got from a Patreon listener, an exceedingly large moose.
Okay.
They pointed out a couple notes to our coverage that we initially stated as, I don't know if we ever said anything was factual.
We were just kind of reporting what was out in the open at the time.
Oh, this is what you talked about on the show.
Yeah, yeah.
This lovely listener of ours had some notes saying the change to Crowder's bio did not occur after Kirk's death.
It was weeks before.
This whole thing reminded me too much of what Donald Trump said after 9-11 about how his building was now like the tallest one.
I don't know if it was the tallest, was it?
It was one of the moved up in ranking.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that that's why you and I, Jared, may have fallen for this.
But also, someone else fell for this as well, which makes it even more interesting.
So this has been making the rounds.
And the problem is, Grok, when asked, gave a very sort of confusing answer.
It said, yes, verified sources confirmed Charlie Kirk was killed.
Crowder's bio changed from the Conservative Daily Show on September 11th as shown in the screenshot.
His current bio still says.
I don't know what that means, but this is something out there.
I want to clarify.
This has been the same thing for a very long time.
This Luna character also tried to write that our reporting last week on the casings was incorrect.
Well, it was.
That it's been debunked when it's been, of course, confirmed.
The ATF report that it had anti-fascist wording and supposed transgender wording, which obviously could have been confusing to the ATF with the noticing bulge.
It sort of references furry culture, but the fuck fascism is pretty clear.
It wasn't clear.
It didn't say fuck fascism, actually.
It was pretty clear.
No, it didn't even say fuck.
No, it said hey, fascist catch, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
And then it had a hell diverse diver code.
I thought it was a reference to that song.
Hey, man, nice shot.
the Bud Dwyer song yeah well I think we actually can we go ahead and take a little filter break No.
now we're not gonna do a filter break we're not we're not owen schroyer listening to fuel you feel he He played the new Linbiscuit song, though, Jared.
Just really.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, just men of taste.
You opened the last live stream with the same thing.
So it's pretty funny.
Hey, man, I miss Chester.
Yeah, we all miss Chester, honestly.
I love that Steven, who, well, we could pull up the post.
He was the one who received the mug club exclusive information.
The one that ended up getting him subpoenaed by the ATF, supposedly.
I don't know if he actually did, but him saying exclusive, this morning my team received an email from an officer at the ATF.
The email included a screenshot from what appears to be an internal message describing a weapon and cartridges located by an ATF and other law enforcement and ATF near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley State University.
Quote, on September 10th, 2025, at approximately 12.24 p.m., conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah.
Mr. Kirk was speaking at the university as part of the American Comeback Tour.
Multiple Salt Lake City one and three agents responded.
I don't know what that means.
Immediately, the suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on the rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus, and surveillance video shows the suspect jumping off and fleeing the area on foot.
I wonder if we can just skip through all this stuff here.
Yeah, because they said that Candace debunked that.
Yeah, I've been watching.
I mean, even David Pachman pointed out a conspiracy theory today that was stating what I initially thought was also true.
To me, it looked like it went in one side of his neck and then out the other.
And they're stating that now, not only was it not possibly an elevated position, more level based on auditory stuff and also different angles, it's possible that it went in one side and not the other, which is when I saw the first time.
But then there's all these other angles where it looks like it comes and clearly goes off the back.
so that there was no exit wound because his spine was so strong that it broke all time and space.
Good thing he wasn't a liberal because they got no spines.
Expectation.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And yeah, he was doing the work for the right wing that day.
Under an angel's left wing.
But the thing that actually mattered, though, was the spent cartridge is still chambered.
In addition to three unspent rounds in a TopFed magazine, all cartridges had engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
So that's what Steven was reporting.
And now, the way he's talking about it, he's saying supposed transgender ideology.
He's like rephrased, stepped back on that part of it while continuing to point out the anti-fascist stuff, which is a little bit more explicit, even though I think for a long time everyone was still juggling with like what exactly the references could be specifically.
I'm fine with saying that I think this is pretty clear left ideology.
I don't know if it's necessarily profoundly believed by the shooter.
Well, there's a couple things I have.
A couple of you should have this.
Number one, this person is still alive.
Yeah.
We'll hear more about their motives as the trial goes on.
Well, if they don't get Jack Rubied or something.
Sure, sure.
But we'll learn more about it.
We're acting like it's like this.
We only have some clues to piece together.
We'll never actually be able to talk to the person ever.
How many days ago?
Two weeks, 14 days.
Yeah.
But also, I think that the reason why a lot of people on the right have a hard time with this is because they think that the left is as like cult-like.
Where's the manifesto?
Yeah.
I'm as like, as cult-like and tribal about it as the right is.
Oh, sure.
If somebody on the left does something dumb, I go, what the fuck is wrong with you, man?
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
I certainly am not starting to make excuses.
Yeah, I'm not going to defend them.
Like, that person, when it happened, I was like, fuck, that's crazy.
Well, we were all talking.
I don't know if we stated this.
I was like, the moment it happened, you said we're fucked.
Yeah, exactly.
Did I say we're fucked?
Yeah, because it's bad.
It's bad.
Like, nothing good is going to come of this.
And, and if it's somebody on the left or the right, I don't give a shit.
I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
Does it play a role in like saying, okay, is there more political violence on the left or the right or whatever?
Yeah, that's something to like discuss and look at.
Like, who's inciting violence?
But at the end of the day, I am not going to be like, oh, shit, he was left-leaning.
Or, oh, shit, he was right-leaning.
Oh, hell yeah.
He was right.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Right-leaning.
It's also not something that you're contributing to.
It's also, you know what I mean?
Well, you are part of they, by the way.
Yeah, yeah.
Or I mean, like, dude did sign.
Yeah.
Dude did sign an executive order for if you're Antifa, you're a terrorist organization.
Oh, we'll talk.
We'll talk about that.
Yeah, welcome all this, I guess.
He may have called it in a couple ways.
But at this point, we should also point out that our coverage initially of the engravings was also incorrect, which I think I falsely or incorrectly paraphrased what Robert Evans from Behind the Bastards was communicating on Blue Sky about the possible engravings being a misinterpretation of the round having the stamp on the back saying T-R-N for Turin, the manufacturer of ammunition.
They've never produced 306 ammo.
You may have said that, but I don't know.
306.
Yeah.
Remember when we played the Tom Waits clip, I think?
Yeah, I just, I think that, I think that they're just clarifying.
We may have misrepresented that at some point.
So I did want to point it out.
Also, Uwu is different than U-W-U.
So we got a correction there.
I thought they were the same thing.
I say, I don't know.
I just think it's funny when you say it, Jared.
You want me one more?
Watch the episode, actually.
Yeah, yeah, go back to that one.
This listener also pointed out that slob squat memes are older than the alt-right and pepe memes, which was the...
Was there a slob squat meme on the thing?
The shooter, alleged shooter, had an image of a, I think it was a Halloween costume where he was assuming a Slav squat.
Just a meme person.
Yeah, I don't remember ever seeing all that.
Well, that was what they were using initially to say that it was possibly a graper thing.
Oh, I see that, yeah.
On Chapo, they had the producers stepping in for Chris Wade.
That was some of the funniest shit I've ever heard in my entire life.
Really good.
The producer coming in and talking about memes.
So whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
It was very good.
Yeah, I don't know anything about the meme culture.
Yeah, the meme kids.
Imagine being like a high school kid as a correspondent on the news to just explain a manifesto of some school bully or something.
I mean, we're getting like, we might need someone to do that.
Like, there needs to be a new character.
Skibbity started back in the history of the ski.
I do need somebody.
We were skibbity correspondent.
We have to write the history of the internet so that we can hand it over to the next group of scholars who can start at skibbity.
We're actually looking for someone to help us understand this subculture.
So if you want to help us out, louderthecrowder at gmail.com.
Wonderful.
Yeah.
But what is this actually, all of this, designed to do?
It's designed to sow doubt.
in your mind.
It's designed to make you feel so confused and shell-shocked that you don't know what is true so that hopefully you go back to trusting those in positions of authority in our institutions, education, three-letter agencies who've never gotten it right.
Like the ATF, of course.
Your source, Steve.
Steve doesn't want us to trust authority, period.
Of course not.
You know, obviously, I have plenty of issues with all this, but one of the big issues is that people want these answers immediately.
The lack of patience for the truth is the issue.
I think it's a large problem.
It's a huge problem.
Yeah.
Like, if we just jump to conclusions, the next day, before the shooter was even caught, it was the left wants war.
And then once the text messages came out, the ones that Ken Klippenstein leaked, plus the ones that were in the indictments, everyone's like, oh, they're fake.
Or they're made up by the FBI, too.
Which.
We sent this shit through an AI detector and it said it was 1,000% AI made up.
I don't know about any of that shit.
So you see it, and then they put it through and it said 100% human written.
Yeah.
I don't believe any of it.
But I'm saying, like, I don't know of any kid his age who would talk like that.
No kid's going to engrave U-Woo notices bulge on a bullet and then be like, greetings, roommate lover.
I have stashed the gun at these quarters.
I mean, it's kind of like a ponytail guy style of talking, though, right?
It is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like t-shirt tucked in.
Sure.
Transitional lenses are flaring up out here.
I don't know if that's attached to internet subculture and comic book guy style behavior, but I don't think it is.
I think.
The bottom line is we will find out.
Yeah.
And the thing is, if we react to our assumptions, then the assumptions become the problem.
When I heard about it and I saw it, my whole thing was like, well, now people are going to fight about it.
Oh, yeah.
Like, that was my worry.
Obviously, like, you know, the death is tragic and violent and gross.
I was immediately being like, well, fuck, now everyone's going to be fighting about this shit.
Turns out that you were right.
When I was actually listening to David Pachman, he brought up a really crazy point that was like, kids were watching this on their phones at lunch, like middle school kids.
Like this is like, this sounds dramatic, but this is like 9-11 for a lot of kids.
It's definitely a mass trauma event.
Yeah.
It's like, it's like a psychic damage event for sure.
Imagine being a dad who was at work all day and couldn't be tuned in.
And like, hey, son, how was school?
And he's like, oh, watch this video.
This guy got shot on the net.
He's blown out everywhere.
Yeah.
And being like, holy fuck.
Yeah, horrific.
You're taking your phone away.
And it's like no fault of his.
No.
You know, which is also something that's like kind of interesting about the Charlie Kirk assassination videos is that these things get flagged immediately in that fucking detection.
Like the things that go on the internet go through like a detection software.
And then the software reports that information to the company.
The company then has sort of like its hands on all of the social media networks like Twitter, Facebook, etc.
And so when that video shows up, it gets pulled.
Right.
And that's like how very regular, like common internet censorship works.
The fact that this didn't get censored, though I'm sure it was immediately put on that list and flagged, we all saw it regardless.
And it doesn't matter who...
And not even that it was so fast, but these things get flagged and they go into effect immediately.
So it's almost as if like, we want you to see this.
We want like they're like, you need to understand that this is like your reality now.
Like sort of like pushing your face in it a little bit.
And it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter who it is if you're on the internet that day, like that fucking Wednesday the 10th, your brain changed probably a little bit forever because he watched a man's whole soul, if you believe that thing, leave his body.
And like this mortal plane.
Horrific.
Yeah.
It fucked me up, man.
It just reminds me.
I was flashing back to when I was in, might have been early high school.
You ever see the drug cartel chainsaw death of two people?
Nope.
Yeah.
I saw a video of that.
And just the fact that I saw that once and it's stuck in my mind.
Yeah, you remember it.
Yeah, like, that does not leave you easily.
Mine was Russian Soldier with the Hatchet.
Russian Soldier with the Hatchet.
Yeah.
Let me look that up real quick.
A different cassaw.
A different lime wire find.
I've seen too many of those kinds of videos.
Yeah.
When you're young and you're stupid, like you don't really realize how fucking much damage that's doing to your brain to see that.
It's really actually very bad.
And that the trauma of these things never really get talked about.
It's just sort of this is like, go fuck yourself.
You have trauma.
Everyone has trauma.
Shut up.
But it's like, these are like, we're talking about like children.
His children will see that video someday.
His wife's probably.
No, see, and that's another thing.
Yeah, that's another those days fake.
A lot of people said that that wasn't true.
His wife and kids weren't there.
But a lot of people still think that they were.
And so, I mean, like, it doesn't make it easier.
That doesn't make it more wrong or right or whatever.
Look, when I said you can't reason with these people and I'm advocating.
Actually, I think you can.
That's a great point.
We're just pure evil.
It's not even worth talking about.
Yeah, we're assholes.
Fuck you.
And look, when I said you can't reason with these people, and I'm advocating for lawful, swift, instant defensive violence where grace has been afforded before because you can't reason with these people.
They hate you everything that you are.
I'm talking about people, well, not just like this, but partially like this.
Let me just say this.
I'm surprised that y'all didn't get rid of him sooner.
So, yeah, we don't need to listen to three minutes and 30-some seconds of TikTok creators saying bad things about Charlie Kirk.
Like, they wish she's dead or surprised it took this long or two.
Did you notice it was all women?
Well, I thought it was interesting that they started out with other people.
I don't know if it was all women.
It was majority women, but I think that's a man, I think.
A person of color is not great considering his track record recently of targeting black women.
Do you think that Steven went through a bunch of these videos and was like, oh, that guy looks too much like me.
I need to know how him on there.
Well, I mean, honestly, I think it's interesting that considering how divisive Charlie Kirk was, that they were only able to play three minutes and 30 seconds of TikTok videos, really.
It just seems kind of light, right?
Like, I know that there was a lot of pretty loud voices.
Or that these are the ones that they pulled.
Yeah.
Like, they're not charging with anything too harshly.
just like the first one being like what did she say it's uh basically i'm surprised it took this long and And I think, I don't know if it was this person or another person talking about how it's going to happen again.
Is that what we're thinking?
Yeah, it's something along the lines of that.
And it's just very, like, it's pretty mild.
You know, they're all saying it's celebrated.
No, but I mean, like, for what she, this woman's just saying, like, to be honest, I'm surprised it took that long.
It's not that shocking of a thing to say, I don't think.
But I also don't think that it's like celebratory or anything like that.
It feels more hyperbolic than anything else to me.
Yeah.
I don't want to go to bat for people saying like, fuck this shit.
But I agree with you.
Yeah.
This is like not the most.
I'm just saying, like, give me the shit that's like, I'm going to bathe in his fucking blood fountain.
Like, I'm just not hearing it.
It's like, it's almost Halloween, baby.
Come on.
Give me some bats and ghouls.
Instant, instant, instant defensive violence.
I don't know what that means.
That's scary.
Yeah.
And following that up by saying they hate you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Couple.
It's such inflammatory stuff.
That's crazy.
You're telling your audience the left, all of them hate you.
And when they do anything towards you that makes you scared, which you are often, then instant defensive violence needs to happen.
Start pulling the trigger.
Yeah, if someone says, like, I'm surprised that didn't happen sooner, it's over.
Clown, that's the A to B right there.
These are the sickos.
And it's like, yeah, Charlie Kirk sucked.
Womp, womp.
And then.
Careful, Jared.
You're going to get.
You're going to have to.
I'm about to attack.
I know one of these fucking clowns are going to be here tomorrow, aren't they?
Release the tapes right now, Byron.
Make sure that.
Yeah, I'll drop this one raw.
Make motherfucking Josh Firestein check in with me before he fucking shows up in my city.
Just give me a second.
I'll give him an introduction because we're still in the cold open.
Got it for God.
That's who you're facing.
And we'll get to some recent polling.
It is not a small contingency.
And in case some of you are maybe shocked, it's been a little bit of a bucket of cold water as far as the advocating of lawful defensive violence.
Some of you may be wondering, hey, this whole thing has been pretty tough on the soul.
And there was a little less levity last week.
Are we still going to be addressing the evil leftism with out of bounds, poor taste, borderline comedy and material?
Well, hit it, on with the show.
Your evil moments are big today.
And your boyfriend's gay.
You're both just gay.
I need to erase the numbers off of my Days Since Bad Parody signs.
Holy shit, it's been a while.
It's been a while.
That one's really bad.
This one's got a little lick about rape, and it's got a little lick about gay sex.
Yeah, yeah, of course, dude.
Cool.
You know what?
Here's what we'll do.
Which was consensual, by the way.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's say, hey, your boyfriend thinks you're gay.
That's only an insult if you're not gay.
Well, I think, I mean, we still don't know exactly what this is.
Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
We don't even need to.
We don't even need to pontificate.
He explains it.
Oh, in the song?
No, no, no, no.
Like, when they go back to the crowder, he just tells you what it means.
He gives you the math on what it means to be gay here.
Oh, believe me, I got that.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
I mean, we're still just the cold open, and we have an hour and three minutes.
All right.
Bad work, but at least the show is starting, right?
Thankfully.
Gerald's there and in third chair.
Cap City Comedy Club in Austin, Texas.
Go see him.
Show him you love him.
Mr. Josh Feierstein.
How are you, sir?
I'm good.
Yep.
I'm good.
Yeah.
Just thinking about violence.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, you know, I don't know if you know this, but our forefathers mostly thought about violence.
Yeah, they thought about it a lot.
They were violent, crazy people.
Yeah.
They were thinking, hey, do we need to use violence to take stuff?
And then once they thought that they no longer needed to, they're going, do we, well, now we need to use violence to make sure people don't take our stuff.
And they can only shoot one shot at a time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, now, before that, we even go to swords.
But yes, when we talk about muskets, yeah, that's give me a bow and arrow in that scenario.
That's true.
Over a musket, I would take the bow and arrow.
Oh my God, he's that kid in school.
Survival kid.
Actually, the crosswall is period.
I would chip a rock and turn it into a knife and use a buckskin for the handle.
What?
Shut up, dude.
Have you seen the Patriot?
Have you seen The Patriot, Mel Gibson?
He's got a hatchet.
I love that.
I only read the hatchet.
I'm sorry, Steven.
I don't know what you're talking about.
That's a great book.
What is that?
Gary Glarson or something?
What's his name?
Gary Paulson, you false idiot.
Jesus.
That's not the far side.
Josh slips a little bit by calling the founding fathers crazy people.
Dude, no.
What did you say?
Well, I mean, what did you say about them?
He said they were mostly violent, and he's like, mostly violent and crazy.
Yeah, mostly violent.
They shot people as often as men of modern day masturbate.
Interesting.
They had a.
I don't know what to say.
That they wore slave teeth also in their mouth.
All right.
They wore slave teeth?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, when they say that George Washington was rocking the wooden teeth, wooden teeth, it was in wooden teeth.
It was slave teeth.
It was somebody else's teeth?
Yeah.
Do you guys ever think about where your teeth are?
Like your old ones?
The tooth fairy.
I got one of them.
I took one of them out.
Yeah, where are they?
Well, they turned into cash.
And my mom got one.
I swallowed them.
You got three or four of them.
We can't bid.
Yeah, but you swallowed them.
You didn't digest your bones, dude.
They're somewhere.
Your teeth are somewhere.
All right.
Oh, my God.
I don't know, dude.
I got a fake one now.
We have an update on the killer, but.
Before we get to that, last night, I know you probably weren't thinking about this, but the left was, it was the 77th Prime Time Emmy Awards.
Yeah, we call them the Emmys, but it's actually officially the Prime Time Emmy Awards.
And as far as I know, there was no mention of Charlie Kirk.
People can correct me if I was wrong here.
That's what's been reported.
You'd think that for a land of artists who are the advocates and fighters for free speech, as beautiful and brave as they are, that they would honor someone who at least embodied it.
But no, they went about as you'd expect.
And that's why we want to ask for a commercial and diplomatic blockage and sunshines on Israel to stop this genocide, free Palestine.
Finally, I just want to say, I just want to say, finally, go birds guys and free Palestine.
Thank you.
I realized that in some ways we were doing a late-night comedy show about loss.
And that's related to love because sometimes you only truly know how much you love something when you get a sense that you might be losing it.
really love bad ratings.
September of 2025, my friends, I have never loved my country more desperately.
Yeah.
I feel like I pulled this just to make fun of Steven for not understanding exactly what the Emmy Awards are.
What?
You mean his direct competitor, Stephen Colbert?
Oh, well, the man that he's operating this mug club to beat.
I've been really annoyed by people focusing on viewership and ratings on network television.
That's been annoying.
And using that as if that's an actual signifier of popularity when most of the people talking about that are YouTube.
Hey, do you remember like Pierce Morgan said something about Jimmy Kimmel's viewership, right?
When we're conservative and then we just use this example all the time for like our friends on iTunes.
And they're like, this is the biggest pro-Trump song that has ever existed.
And here's proof.
It's big on iTunes.
We've got the most popular direct mail piece of mail that's ever hit the city.
It's like just to me, it's like proof of like the lie, like the fucking lie.
It's like you get it, you understand it because you're saying it back with the same context and like a different light.
Well, here's my issue with the ratings is that the ratings ignore what are all ratings doing?
Like are they all going down?
Exactly.
So is he still doing fine compared to others?
And on YouTube, which is the thing that everyone else is using as a metric.
Yeah, yeah.
Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, all of their shows get crazy numbers on YouTube.
Especially John Oliver.
That's what they say is that they like the their like operating wing for like reels and tick tock.
It's all to service like their their fucking YouTube end because that's where it makes the money in the same in the same way that that we watch cartoons to sell us toys growing up.
Yeah.
Sure.
Right.
Absolutely.
It's just insane that YouTubers like Pierce Morgan or rumblers like Steven Crowder.
Say this out loud.
Say like Jimmy Kimmel was getting 200,000 concurrent viewers or something when 10 years ago he was getting 3 million or something like that.
Sure.
But Stephen Colbert is getting on average 3 million views on each monologue on his show on YouTube.
Yeah, but they aren't turning into the TV.
Oh.
And they might watch YouTube on the TV, but they aren't watching it on over-the-air radio broadcast waves.
That makes this easier for me to pretend that these people are failing.
Exactly.
And also, the Primetime Emmy Awards are called the Primetime Emmy Awards because there's other Emmy Awards, like the Daytime Emmy Awards, the Sports Emmy Awards, News and Documentary Emmy Awards, Children's and Family Emmy Awards, Technology and Engineering Emmy Awards, and International Emmy Awards.
Did you know they're named after a part of the TV?
I did.
I did see that.
Can you further elaborate?
I can't remember the name, but I'll look it up.
It's IMMY is what it was actually based on, but I don't know exactly what that is.
What if Steven takes over Crowder?
Sorry, Colbert, I mean to say.
I mean, that would be fair and rational, right?
Because 97% negative coverage.
We got gutfeld on prime time now.
I guess what we really need, right?
Yeah.
Got to put these guys where they belong.
And that's in front of the failing audience that they speak of, I guess.
Steven's just dripping sweat.
His gun slips out of his pants pocket on the monologue.
He shoots Garimo, who's just there.
He needs a job.
He replaced Gerald after the first gun accident.
Gerald Guerrimo?
That would be kind of cool.
Yeah.
We need to get somebody here.
He's the only guy available.
Zach's got to check in with me when he comes to Austin.
That's no good for the brand.
You tell us about this, Dennis, before we move forward.
Sure, yeah.
The Emmy's award names come from Emmy, like you said, which is the nickname for the Image Orthicon tube.
Oh, okay.
That made nighttime TV broadcast possible.
So you couldn't have nighttime before.
It like illuminated the.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
It doesn't matter.
But the image orthogonal too.
Steven, I mean, Stephen didn't really like that whole go birds fuck ice comment from the lead of the TV show Hacks.
Here's the thing.
Okay, listen.
That broad, she just needs to get in her place and talk about Charlie.
Well, and her place might be similar to where Steven is.
So actually, after the award show, Hannah Einbinder, I believe is her name, doubled down on her comments at a table outside.
You see, right there.
Yep.
Well, hey, hey.
Wow.
Wow, well, that's one way to say F-Ice.
More slaves than ever on earth in recorded history.
Over 50 million slaves.
How do you think that happens, open borders?
How do you think it happens?
Because people are free to commit acts of violence and human trafficking unfettered by the rule of law, but these people don't care.
They're surrounded by security that night.
Those people at the Emmys have no idea.
No idea what it is like to sit down at a table surrounded by enemies.
What?
No clue.
A couple things.
On screen, he flashes the Change My Mind meme with Hannah behind the table with the sign saying child trafficking rules.
Change my mind.
Implying that she went outside and then supported child trafficking directly and wanted debates about it.
Yeah, he's saying that she believes this because of her anti-ice stance.
I've heard him say 50 million.
50 million.
Of course, I think Gerald at some point in this episode says that 300,000 children have been brought across the border and are in child sex trafficking now.
That's just the number of children who have come across the border and haven't returned for a hearing.
To assume that that many of them are automatically trafficked instead of just not showing up for an appointment.
Yeah.
It's just a gross misinterpretation of statistics.
And honestly, I think the show Hacks is pretty good.
I haven't seen the couple episodes.
So go check it out.
And honestly, go birds, right?
Go birds, baby.
I don't care if they eat shit when they celebrate.
It's very cool.
Yeah, someone's got to do it.
Well, actually, no.
Someone has to.
I don't think that's true.
Okay, well, yeah, I'll watch it.
Somebody lied to Jared.
He's been in shit for a long time, and someone said it was necessary.
Every game, he's like, I can't actually watch the game today.
I'm not.
My stomach is not right.
It's time for the series updates surrounding the killer.
There's more news coming out over the weekend.
So we do have some updates that as of this morning, and there's news that's still unfolding.
The killer, Charlie Kirk's killer, is refusing to confess.
He's refusing to work with authorities.
But if you want to know where we line up right now today with Tyler Robinson, here it is again.
And that's their big update.
Nice.
And it's not the update on the killer.
And he's saying it started out with the kiss and how did it end up like this.
All right.
It was only a kiss.
It was only a kiss.
I love Stephen's take here that the killer should be like, yeah, I killed him.
Do you guys want me to go to my thing?
I'll show you all my bullets.
I'll show you.
I did a video.
Can we play Fortnite yet?
Yeah.
Like, he's acting like literally every single killer ever in all time, forever, has pled not guilty.
I'm sorry.
I thought that this is the people who are like, don't talk to cops, right?
Like, yeah.
Well, I don't think Stephen would say that.
I don't know if he'd say that explicitly.
He wouldn't say that publicly.
Sure.
But privately, he believes that.
These are people who believe in the rule of law and the process, right?
Yeah, they're like, oh, that's fine.
Yeah, of course I'll.
You can search my car.
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
Yeah, my glove box?
Here's the key.
Of course, here it is.
Yeah.
Clearly, yeah, if you get accused of a murder, you're not going to say.
Well, sometimes you say I did it.
Yeah.
Sometimes you don't.
And that's your right.
Yeah, exactly.
And like, I guarantee whoever he has, like, he has to have somebody on for defenses from the state, I think, I believe.
Yeah.
I'm sure that they weren't like, all right, listen, here's what you do.
Okay.
I should probably admit it all.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, you just told me.
Tell them.
Tell them that, actually.
I recorded it.
If you wanted to just play this clip.
It's easy.
I'm actually.
And yeah, I get to go home early.
Yeah.
Crazy.
I can get home in time for chicken pot pie.
For hacks.
I got to see this show.
The fact that they're talking about this young man, person's roommate who is a biological male who he is in a romantic relationship with, but he's transitioning.
So like, so I guess he's heteronormative.
No, no, no.
You're gay.
You're having sex with a man who wants to, at some point in the future, claim that they're a woman.
You don't get out of this on a I'm not gay in the future IOU.
That's not how it works.
It's gay.
Any other time in history, hey, are you a man?
Yeah.
Your roommate, is that your lover?
Yes.
Is he a man?
Yes.
You're gay.
Good.
Oh, he's not gay.
He's just attracted to feminine penis.
Right.
Exactly.
That's the gaslighting that has been taking place where you've been made to feel crazy, where they want to tell you, no way, you're Nazi.
You're a fascist.
You're a racist.
So actually, you've been fomenting violence.
By the way, this man who has sex with men, if you say that he's gay, that's more hateful than, you know, murder.
Hey, you guys know when like a joke is like really funny and you have to like explain it for three minutes?
Sure, sure.
Yes, yeah.
I love it, dude.
And so the kind.
And so here's to you, Tyler Robinson.
Tyler Robinson.
Yeah.
Huh.
I thought it had explained itself, but I guess his audience has been taking a turn for the worse lately.
Get it?
Get it?
I don't.
Well, actually, I don't get it.
That's not the first thing that I think of during an assassination, any sort of murder, a violent act.
I'm not like, well, who are they?
Who do they fuck?
What kind of person do they fuck?
What if we?
What if we go back and we have a clip of our Melissa Hortman got killed?
Okay, listen, you guys.
Do you think you use lube?
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you think he likes backdoor action?
Well, yeah.
What kind of feminine penis is she working with?
Yeah.
Josh, you're done.
Circumcised or no?
Listen, Josh, you're irredeemable at this point.
I've given you so much slack over the past two and a half years.
Bad take.
Gross guy.
Yeah, yeah.
Not doing well.
I'll say this.
I'll fat shame him.
He's on a weight loss journey.
He gave up after one post.
No, did he really?
Yeah.
Come on, buddy.
Come on.
Cool.
I don't think it's more hateful that you point out that someone's gay.
Murder is clearly worse.
And nobody on the left is going to say, yeah, in two instances, let's see.
Someone was said something homophobic and somebody else got murdered in front of thousands.
I think that the homophobic thing is definitely worse.
That's a worse thing.
That's a worse thing.
You're worse than the killer.
No.
No one's saying that.
They're just saying that you're a killer.
It's weird of you to focus on this.
It's weird.
Yeah, that's a weird thing.
Why are you focused on it?
Like, we don't care about it.
No.
I don't care if a trans person comes near me or a gay person comes near me or does something.
I just don't care about their sexuality at all.
It doesn't really come into the equation.
No.
I don't applaud louder when a trans person does something cool.
Yeah.
And sorry.
Cool shit.
They are so worried about it.
Yeah.
So horny.
Imagine if they found out that the killer was like a straight guy with a trad wife.
But does he have like a gay cousin, though, or something?
Is someone gay there?
Did his mom ever listen to Obama?
Is there anything we can use to remove the fact that some people are just sick?
Well, yeah, of course they're sick.
They're sick because of gay.
Yes.
Got to be a reason for it.
I also want to clarify one thing here, too.
People talk about echo chambers on both sides.
Not only does violence not exist on both sides, anyone who says that people on the right are in an echo chamber is someone who immediately is to be discounted.
It is not possible in the 21st century, at any point in the 21st century, to be in a right-wing echo chamber.
It's not a thing.
It's not possible.
You would have to have no TV.
You would have to have no social media.
You would have to not watch any films, listen to any mainstream bands.
You would have to not attend any university or any public school, in most cases, private school.
Not to mention, if it was an echo chamber, it would be an aggressive echo chamber that challenges your every single word.
Exactly.
It's not the same.
Oh.
Is it not?
You guys haven't heard of the Republican Echo Chamber?
I mean, I feel like it exists.
They're the anti-echo chamber.
Are you listening?
We get our message out so hard, it blasts through the walls of the echo chamber, okay?
Yeah, the back walls.
I'm Superman, you're Lois Lane.
What?
What an absolute.
They're like, that's the most echo chamber-y thing to say.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Okay, well, let's just empty the clip, as it were.
What was the last one that Tyler Robinson had?
Is it Uwu?
Is that the one?
I think that's the one that was spent.
Oh, Uwu is the first one?
Yeah, I think Charlie Kirk died by his family.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't it.
It was, if you read this, you're gay, LOL.
That was the last one.
That was the last one.
Okay.
The first one, was it the hey fascists, catch this?
That was still in the clip.
Like I say, I think the furry one, the, is that like notice is bulge?
Ooh, ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
I think that that's the one that killed Charlie Kirk.
Wow.
So that's really horny.
So I just want to squash this.
What he said there is like the dumbest fucking thing that I could imagine.
Hey, y'all.
It is me, Byron.
And one, apologies that this episode is so late.
I know that with the assassination of Charlie Kirk taking place well over a month ago at this point, that was kind of an important episode that we probably should have prioritized.
But as you've heard over the course of the last few episodes, I am in a career transition that has happened.
And that means good news for you.
There's going to be a lot more Louder Than Crowder coming at a more consistent cadence.
And, you know, Dennis has actually wrapped up his projects as well.
So very exciting stuff to come as well as part two of this episode because it's a big boy.
So I decided that instead of, you know, taking even longer to get it up and edited, you should listen to the first half.
And that's what this is.
And I hope you enjoy it.
And we really appreciate you and your patience as well as all your support at Shrug.club.
That's going to be the place for a lot more coming up soon.
But yeah, until next episode, I hope you are having a lovely transition into the fall.
That you are not dressing up in elaborate costumes of Steven or Gerald for Halloween and that you're actually going to enjoy yourself.
Above all else, make sure that you take care.
You've been listening to an Audio Woll original produced by Byron McCoy.
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