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July 25, 2025 - Louder Than Crowder
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EPISODE 68: MAD ABOUT FICTION (JUNE 26TH, 2025)

This week, the boys talk woke comics, cop erasure, and how they're sicking of feeling bad about being racist guys.  Oh...and Steven uses the word now.  CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE Hat (for folks who like hats).  Like what we're doing?  Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub  Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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I will kill myself.
I will kill myself.
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast, Louder with Crowder.
My name is Byron.
I'm joined tonight remotely by Dennis.
I'm here.
I'm close to you, but I'm not in your building.
Thank God.
I'm here.
And our lone star brother in Occupied Texas, freshly napped, fresh-faced.
It's Jared.
I feel like I'm still dreaming.
Well, it's not going to get fast.
This is such a wonderful moment.
I'm with these two angels right now.
Sweet to say.
Dennis has a fever.
Jared is fever dreaming, and I'm doing just fine.
Oh, yeah, I'm here, though.
I forgot I'd turn up the heat a little bit.
You know, that's what I wanted to do.
Sure.
However, Steven, he's having a hard week.
Well, actually, he worked really hard this week.
So he felt like maybe after producing a show that he called one of his most important episodes ever, where he called out Tucker Carlson.
He's done so many times, right?
I know.
It's pretty much a monthly thing that he uses as marketing.
But yeah, he called out Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, and Dave Smith, of course, offering to host them all on his show.
I bet they all responded.
Not anyone yet.
But the offer stands to debate their dissatisfaction after President Donald Trump, the anti-war candidate, bunker-busted Iran.
Bunker busted.
Bunker busted.
However, we're not covering that episode.
That's good.
Rather, we're tackling the slacker effort presented during today's episode.
Thursday, June 26th.
Daddy's home.
Trump's NATO dominance is breaking brains worldwide.
Calling him Daddy is so gross.
It's really bad.
They're back on it.
Yep.
I remember they tried it pretty hard, and now they're trying it again.
What if we called Biden Daddy?
I thought about that, too.
Biden, Obama.
When his eyes started bleeding and shit?
Oh, daddy.
Daddy Brandon.
It kind of feels like maybe something he would say, though, too.
Dark Daddy Brandon.
He's got the mask energy, you know?
Yeah, it is.
He is smoking, and he does love to P-A-R-T-Y because he's got to.
Steven has got to solidify their narrative up front.
It's funny how news went from absolute insanity to kind of a standstill, but that's because of wins.
It's not about wins.
It's because they didn't want to work hard today.
Wait, never mind.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
He said it, so it's true.
Yeah.
Of course it is.
I know, like, when the Super Bowl's over and like the home team wins where the team's from, it's usually really quiet.
Everyone stays inside.
Sure.
You know, because it's win.
You have to be quiet when you win.
They usually get a mandate where they have to eat horseshits.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's in Philadelphia.
And that's kind of quieting.
I mean, the weirdest thing about that, the most telling thing is if they aren't making fun of something or pointing out where liberals are acting to them out of line, then they can't talk about anything.
Their show can't be positive.
It can't be about actual achievements.
They need something to belittle.
Yeah.
Like, they act like they hate when the left is all high and mighty about shit, but they love it because that is their content.
Of course it is.
Yeah.
That's all they want.
They want more content.
If it's all wins, they don't.
Totally.
Yeah.
And it wasn't all wins because they definitely...
It was obliterated.
They definitely couldn't have talked about all the new appointments to the Homeland Security Advisory Council, people like Rudy Giuliani and Corey Lewandowski.
Or the new aggressive America's mayor?
Operations.
Yeah, the one that has a wheelchair.
Oh, buddy.
Yeah, he physically.
Hot wheels?
No, no, no.
Rudy.
Rudy Judy Judy has.
Oh.
I didn't know that he was wheeling.
Yeah, I think the weight of all his crimes have finally caught up with him.
Maybe that stuff leaking out of his face wasn't hair dye.
It was like oil.
He was just a robot, and the robot's breaking down now.
Yeah, it could have been.
Yeah.
Overheated.
I saw this article like Skirling the other day.
Who directed Slum Dog Million?
Danny Boyle.
Okay, that's what I thought.
It's like, does Danny Boyle know that he looks like Rudy Jr.
I saw him at South by Southwest when he was promoting promoting that movie Trance, and it wasn't very good.
I have so-so on his movies.
Yeah, yeah.
They definitely couldn't have talked about the new ICE operations, the aggressive 3,000 arrest daily quota that they announced.
Do they have a quota?
Yeah, yeah.
They also chose to not talk about Cuomo potentially running as an independence in the wake of that Mondani victory, which congratulations.
Big shout out.
Amazing stuff.
Super sick pull out.
But yeah, they do focus on.
Andrew Cuomo should not run as an independent.
No, Yani needs to not do that.
Eric Adams should also not.
Actually, they both should, and they should just drag themselves further.
Both or none would be good.
Do you remember that weird period where we listen to Andrew Cuomo talk every day?
Yeah, that was interesting because I definitely felt like, oh, this guy is really stepping up to the plate and making me comfortable, you know, during COVID.
Yeah.
And now it turns out.
Sorry, you cut out after the word.
You said make you come?
No.
Okay, well.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
As soon as I'm ready, I'll come on you first.
Come on, guys.
That's enough.
But they do focus a little bit on some timely news.
Yesterday, NATO, we were covering it live.
But turns out we're going to make them pay their fair share, and they're going to do it.
They're going to buy some of what they need for their military from us.
Not really true, but we'll get to it.
That laugh was so fucking dumb.
And they called him daddy.
President Trump Daddy.
Like, This is a good thing.
Today is a fun day.
Everything's good.
Everything's fine.
They're so horny for him.
I don't get it.
Well, he's a hot guy.
He's a hunk.
He has a catheter.
His posture is great.
His neck looks awesome.
His hair only gets better.
His neck is the closest thing they've ever seen to what they want to see.
All right.
They care so much about Trump's pseudo-achievements.
I just want to take a second.
I just looked down at my computer and saw Dennis.
You're wearing a hat that says that bitch, Carol Baskin.
Yeah.
And you have a fleece blanket shroud over you.
Shappa.
Yeah, I got a fever, dude.
Okay, I just.
This is my comfort clothes.
I just want to paint a quick picture for everyone.
That's all.
All right.
A couple more.
I got this at Goodwill for four bucks.
You bought a blanket at Goodwill?
No, the hat.
Okay, good.
The blanket I bought for more than that, obviously.
Yeah, I don't know if I I got to charge you an extra buck.
They pocketed the extra dollar.
Wait, hey, come on now.
Hard working.
It's got to go to somebody.
But yeah, a couple more important topics are going to be tackled tonight.
Don't worry.
If you are pro-America, if you're MAGA, if you want to see this country flourish, we're on the right track in a lot of ways.
There's obviously room for improvement, but it's going to be a good palette cleanse show.
Also, Pinocchio says the N-word, and Iron Man is now lame and gay.
Hot take.
Actually, really hot take.
Happy Pride Month, everyone.
Happy Pride.
We got a couple more days.
And we're still donating two months of Patreon to the Trevor Project as well as whatever social media folks point us to.
We're going to split it between two.
So reach out to us at Fan Crowder.
One for each hand.
Throw salutes to you.
Of course.
But first, let's take a second to thank some folks who are supporting us and who are making those donations possible over at shrug.club.
Yeah.
Hello, Shrug Nation.
You've entered the Shrug Tuition.
Of course.
Shrug, please.
What?
I said Shrug, please.
Oh, okay.
Shrug me down.
All right, daddy.
Listen, it's the home for all the things too hot for the RSS feed.
Ooga!
Double salute.
My eyes are popping out.
Sure, sure.
I'm hitting myself on the head with a hammer right here.
Yeah, your tongue is rolled out like a blind, and it's whipping back in and spinning around.
Shrub plug exclusives, pics of Josh's belly, all for free.
Always will be.
But some folks choose to support us financially, and we bigly appreciate that.
I definitely do.
First, it is the Pennington Man.
The Pennington Man?
Yes.
I'm familiar with him.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Sounds like a man of nightmares.
I don't know the Pennington Man.
Is it bank?
I have no idea.
I'm just fucking around.
Tell me about the Pennington man.
Sounds like they might be A. You.
I didn't get my thank you in.
You.
What?
Thank you more.
What is this?
Sorry, wrong button.
You piece of shit.
Okay.
There it is.
Piece of shit.
And also, AJ.
Just AJ?
Yeah, just AJ.
Not Alex Jones.
I've confirmed it.
Anthony Jr.
Thank you very much.
Thanks, Anthony.
Won't do more.
What does he say?
Well, these are clips of Steven kind of self-censoring the F-word, which is kind of fun.
Yeah, see?
And then...
He cusses like he's got a toddler in the house, you know?
And maybe he does, right?
I think his kids are a little bit more.
It sounds like elementary school Stephen.
Yeah, but actually...
Great.
Thanks, AJ.
Really appreciate you.
If you like what we're doing and want to support us financially, you can do that and we will give you more and be better.
I promise.
Visit shrug.club.
That's where everything is.
Again, it's free, but you can take a peek at all that stuff guilt-free if you am a shrug club or join shrug nation and also become a piece of shit.
Let's do more.
I love that.
It's so great.
Let's do more.
You more.
And of course, we start with a sip and a familiar flub.
Hmm, I've missed this.
Glad to be with you.
Today is definitely one of those.
Oh, I got to turn up my headphones here a little bit.
Speaker's off, right?
There's no snare in those things?
Need more snare.
M ⁇ M?
I don't know.
I don't know which M ⁇ M song.
Okay, so they had the Wicca-Wicka Wicka ready to go.
So clearly that was part of their run-through.
I didn't care about M ⁇ M, though.
That's fine.
He does a bit where he is too low in his own headphones.
So they can make an M ⁇ M turn me up in my headphones joke.
And then hit the waka-waka.
And then hit the waka-waka, which is really interesting.
I think that they're setting up something because Gerald's there.
Josh is there too.
But someone is missing.
Comedy.
Well, that one's always missing.
We're introduced to a new face in his absence.
His, of course, because everyone that works on screen talent is a man at this show.
Yes.
Toolman, we wish you the best.
He's not here.
He's going through some stuff right now.
And so please, in the comments, show him you love him.
We do have Applejack in his place, who will hopefully be better today.
So, not holding my breath.
He might speak.
It's an abusive work environment.
It is a little bit.
Yeah, by many accounts, that's true, Gerald.
Toxic, abusive, sexual misconduct, emotionally abusive, volatile outbursts, unreasonable demands, micromanagement, endless baked potatoes, and ball sacks.
And also, what is Tim at the airport hotel?
Is that what's going on?
I got bad news about Tim the Tool Man.
Yeah, so, you know, he had a bit of a Minecraft accident while he was...
And he said, which son?
I said, this son's name is Applejack.
So Applejack's back, Jack.
I got to say, Jack.
Your Biden isn't the best one I've heard.
What does he sound like?
I don't remember what word he was.
He was doing Joe Biden.
Is it Biden?
Is it Biden?
I don't remember what he sounds like.
In my head, I'm like, he's really fucking up RFK right now.
No, no, yeah.
He's like wispy, right?
I did that.
No.
You know how to say South Africa to get into South Africa to do Biden.
You go, I did that.
Or whatever.
I did that.
Yeah, I guess like my, I was like, as soon as I started talking, I was like, it's kind of just doing RFK.
It was RFK in Bill Clinton a little, but maybe that's the recipe, though.
Maybe that's the recipe for Joke Biden.
Hey, Jack, I'll tell you.
You got to say Jack a lot.
Jack is good.
Jack.
Hey, Jack.
Jack, let me go.
Jack, Jack.
I called Corn Pop on the phone.
I said, Corn Pop, you got to send me your son.
I say we should work this out more right now.
Does that sound like a good idea?
Thoughts are with you, Tim.
Hope things are fine.
Does Tim gone through a breakup?
That's what it sounded like.
Yeah, it did sound like that, didn't it?
He's going through something, you know.
Her fault.
Of course it's her fault.
But yeah, I'm going to say something now, and let me be clear.
Stephen is a racist.
What?
Now, I just want to be clear.
Some of you are going to accuse us in this program today of being racist.
There's nothing new there.
He's right about that.
I want to be clear when we're criticizing someone like Jamal Bohemia.
If at any point you people appears or a generalization, we're not talking about all black people.
We are talking specifically about the black men who believe the kind of crap that you are about to hear the professional fire alarm puller discuss.
Victim for every, responsible for nothing, victim on all fronts.
Jamal Bowman wants you to know the root cause as to why blacks suffer statistically from all kinds of ailments, diseases like increased diabetes and heart disease.
Your colleagues in the Republican Party do not hold each other accountable when it comes to the racism that comes from the party on a consistent basis.
Congressman, I mean, where are you on?
You can't be calm about this.
I'm a black man in America.
The reason why heart disease...
I'm white, I can't comment on that.
The reason why heart disease and cancer and obesity and diabetes are bigger in the black community is because of the stress we carry from having to deal with being called the N-word directly or indirectly every day.
If you listen and try to learn and engage and grow and stop being so hateful, we could have a better country.
Jamal.
But unfortunately, we're still here.
Jamal hates.
Yeah.
Fact check.
When we invented that word, you were all quite a bit slimmer.
And a little more in shape.
By the way, he watched the Tarantino film, had to amputate a leg.
So just Tupac.
To be clear, he does kind of have a point on some of this.
Oh, geez.
Debbie's got a secret.
That's right.
For people on audio, that's worth the watch.
For people on our audio, I can tell you it's not.
But I did send the screen cap of what they're showing on screen to Jared and Dennis.
Yeah, so at first it was zoomed in on the top left of that box, and then it pulls back to reveal that little Debbie is part of the KKK and the logo, and it's a package of Swiss rolls.
You can see that there.
A big pack.
Can you tell me about how to reduce excessive swelling?
I can as well.
I thought that it would be good to screen cap the full image from Rumble, which shows a pop-up ad on the right side about how to reduce excessive swelling using what appears to be two wrapped feet, AI generated, standing on maybe a purple flower.
Yeah, of course.
Stephen is such a piece of shit.
One of the worst.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, this is horrendous.
When we invented the word, he said.
Yeah, that was really gross.
So we're talking about ex-New York rep Jamal Bowman was on CNN News Nights.
I think it was yesterday, June 25th.
And he was talking about how America's original sin and its disease of hate and racism affect black and brown people physically.
And Steven decided to be an awful gross guy, right?
Yeah, that's it.
Well, I mean, that's not real, man.
Wait, what?
Listen, physical, like, stress on your body doesn't actually cause any damage.
Well, it's interesting you say that.
Bowman's comments about increased diabetes, obesity, and heart disease in black people being due to racial stress actually is supported by studies, Dennis.
If you can believe it.
Yeah, liberal studies, right?
I don't know.
Racism, including both interpersonal and structural forms, actually contributes to higher rates of diabetes and chronic disease in black folks.
The stress can disrupt bodily systems, increasing inflammation and directly contributing to these outcomes.
And then, of course, there's the structural part of that.
Residential segregation, discriminatory policies and systemic inequalities.
Healthcare quality.
Yes, linked directly to diabetes prevalence in worse clinical outcomes, higher blood pressure, higher blood sugar, poor self-care behaviors.
It runs all the way down.
And it's all backed up by studies.
Like you were asking liberal studies.
I don't know.
I'm just fucking around.
I would imagine the black woman's health study would be not one that Stephen would consider legitimate, but it found that women...
Yeah, and Rasmussen's, of course, going to talk about black people and the effects of racism, you know, in a post-racial world, of course.
Yeah, they found that women with the highest exposure to everyday racism actually had a 31% increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes, which is fucking wild.
That is wild.
Yeah.
31%.
I mean, it's clear that if you're stressed out because of shit That other people don't deal with, you're going to experience problems that are related to more stress in your life.
It's just that simple.
Then another source that Stephen probably doesn't give a shit about is the CDC.
And I guess a handful of other public health authorities have said that racism is a serious public health threat, emphasizing that it creates social detriments of health that have lifelong negative effects on both mental and physical health, including increased risk from diabetes, heart disease, etc.
So, of course, Steven either didn't look into this or doesn't give a shit.
I mean, he did both of those things.
Yeah.
I really hated when they laughed about indirectly calling someone the N-word.
Yeah, and that was from the show.
That's basically what they do all of the time on their show.
Oh, I mean, they go in a huge riff about it saying, like, oh, so-and-so was late all week.
And then if you point it out, then they're saying you are saying the N-word.
They're beeping noise.
Like everything they do is saying the N-word indirectly.
They're fucking Swiss roles, KKK shit.
Yeah.
You were skinnier back then.
Go fuck yourself so hard.
Jesus, that's so terrible.
Why was that, Steven?
He knows.
Of course he does.
But it's not funny, though.
It's not even fun.
It's not funny at all.
No, no, no.
He's a comedian.
What, Jared?
He's a comedian.
Oh, so it is funny.
This is like someone has to be putting out this type of joke, and it is him.
And, you know, so it's his lane.
And, you know, we're, we're, we aren't getting over.
We're just doing criticism on comedy now.
Yeah, comedy is legal now.
It went all the way up to the Supreme Court, and they did make a ruling.
Comedy's legal.
Someone's got to do it.
Stephen then continues to push the absurdity of it all, and along with that, the misrepresentation of Jamal's words.
Not all black people, but think about this.
No, don't.
Get the fuck out of here.
I'm sorry.
Like, I'm sorry.
This is where I am now.
Because we will go through these, and we always make the references publicly available, right?
Where we go, claim, truth, okay?
Myth, reality.
When someone sets it up, and this is a pathology, when they set it up that, no, no, no, no, no, the reason that the black community has diabetes and heart disease at large is because of you.
And maybe not you, but some person called us the N-word, but maybe didn't call us the N-word, but implied something negative.
And so we're not responsible for any of our own outcomes.
This is my new policy.
Go fucking yourself.
No, go fuck yourself.
What was this policy?
Go fuck yourself, I think is what it was.
He said it like a teenager who didn't want to say fuck.
Go fuck yourself.
You.
Fuck you more.
Yeah.
I don't know what it is.
I think he thinks that it gets around some sort of censorship on YouTube, but he doesn't even go on YouTube anymore, except for this week during his most important announcement ever.
He did stream on YouTube again.
I think he's bailing on the Rumble exclusive thing.
I think he's leaving money on the table and it's starting to catch up with him.
Yeah.
This is just such a shit take.
There's so many people who might even be well-intentioned who think that if you include race in a study, that it's impossible to be about race.
Like I remember a study during COVID about how black people were more likely to die in traffic fatalities during the shutdown because they were more likely to be essential workers and have to go to work.
But people were like, what does that to do with race?
And it's like, it has to do with race.
It has a lot to do with race.
It does.
Sorry, but that's just the situation.
It does.
And you know what?
I don't know what it's like to be a black person in America.
I don't know what it's like to be a woman.
I don't know what it's like to be a person of color.
I don't know what it's like to be an immigrant.
And that's why we're doing a race-swapped version of white chicks.
Are we?
Called Black Guys.
Hell yeah.
Remember that movie?
Campus Boys, part two.
God.
One of the things that is so easy for people to forget is they think that slavery in America was so long ago, but it was like five or six generations ago, right?
Like it wasn't that long ago that it happened.
And we act like the United States is this, you know, super old country that's been around for forever.
But we're just like a shitty teen country that thinks we're all grown up.
And we're not.
And that's what I think is the big issue with stuff like this is like when black people in America share their experience and we say, yeah, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
It's so belittling as if that was a million years ago.
It wasn't.
160 years ago?
Yeah.
159.
It's days like this that Steven has got to miss quarter black Garrett.
He definitely does.
He wants to do black and white on the gray issues.
Yeah.
So he can get some cred.
I just want to highlight that this is like, this is part of Steven's strategy is to take something, leave it, I mean, guess relatively out of context because I think that he knows that his audience isn't actually going to look into the effects of racism physically on black people.
It just reminds me of, remember that holiday party vagina prep thing that they attacked and talked about for like 30 minutes of their show?
I don't remember that.
I mean, thinking you actually might have been out.
Man, I wish I would have.
Something about Christmas parties.
Yeah.
The article was talking about if you drink too much at your holiday party that like you may spike the pH levels in your vagina.
Like you might get a yeast infection.
Yeah, it was just like a throwaway article that they ran with and made it sound like it was women were going to have sex with multiple partners on the same night at holiday parties.
And that this article was like preparing them for that.
Oh my God.
So all of this is, is taking a small fact, ignoring the truth of it, and then elaborating on it and highlighting the absurdity of something that isn't even true.
Sure.
For a lot of people, they use the results of these things and like they use the as like a justification for why we shouldn't consider these valid opinions.
Like for example, they'll say that black people are disproportionately more likely to commit crimes or something like that.
And then they'll act like there's not a reason that that is and they act like it's just because of black people they do crimes.
Yeah, black people do crimes, not because of the horrendous treatment over centuries.
Centuries.
Yeah.
Just part of the matrix, man.
It is part of the matrix.
All right.
Well, you may have missed it.
Well, actually, no, I got this clip here.
Does this man actually come?
Do you think he actually believes that he is obese because someone used a slur?
Because he washed roots?
All right.
That's a dumb thing.
No, no, that's what his exercise bike told him.
Yes, his Peloton is coming.
Peloton, that's what it's like.
Come on, you nit.
Whoa, whoa.
I'm going to go drown myself a little bit.
I got to avoid that bike at all costs.
It's a furnace.
It's like the furnace in Home Alone.
Shut up.
It's everywhere.
It's everywhere.
So you may have missed it, but Steven, he started saying the N-word once and then said it for real, pretending to be the furnace from the film Home Alone.
Oh, no.
I mean, this is exactly as you predicted, Dennis.
His episode where he's talking to Pierce Morgan about using the N-word was nothing more than a gateway into a world where that is okay on his program.
Yeah.
That's so gross.
What an idiot.
You nailed it.
But also, I do want to say real quick before we get too far away from it, I've decided that the fart noise sensor was a bit juvenile.
So what I've started doing is, and this is a little subtle.
You're just going to play him saying the N-word?
No, I put the N-word over every slur now.
No, no, no.
I actually, what you heard was the sound of Steven being punched by those union fellas.
So that's what that is.
That's great.
I'm saying it's kind of fun.
What I hate about this, the particular clip, is how they're talking about how they're saying Jamal Bowman isn't taking responsibility for his obesity, right?
And he's blaming it on the fact that he's a black man in America.
You think that's what he's talking about on CNN?
Definitely.
It's definitely like a body-shaming thing.
No, but no, like your economic conditions absolutely play a role on whether or not you will have a healthy diet.
Yeah.
That's not hard to figure out.
Shit food is cheap food, right?
And also, if you're in a situation where like you're economically not doing well, you might lean more on dopamine from eating because that's what you have to do to deal with it, right?
Small joys in your life when your life is so hard.
Yeah, you can't afford things like fucking massages or like going to play basketball with your friends.
Who is a float tank like Joe Rogan?
Yeah, yeah, right.
You can't afford that kind of shit.
And the way you actually like find joy in your life is going to be different.
And economically, it plays a huge role.
Jamal Bowman's not even like a big guy.
No, I mean, he's probably like medically obese, but you see him in his fucking t-shirt.
The dude's jacked.
Yeah, he's absolutely normal looking guy.
Steven could never get one over on this guy.
Of course.
Nope.
Okay, invite Jamal Bowman on the show.
Yeah, why don't you invite Jamal Bowman on the show?
Do an arm wrestling contest.
We should probably invite Jamal Bowman on our show too.
We should.
Yeah, this is an open invite for Jamal Bowman.
You can come on our show anytime.
I'd also like to extend an offer to, I mean, I guess to pretty much everyone.
Rudy Giuliani, Corey Lundowski, Cuomo, Tucker.
Let's get Trump, too.
Let's be the new Nelk Boy.
Let's get all the Trumps.
Eric, Don Jr., Donald, Baron.
I bet we could get Baron.
Ivanka.
Ivanka can come on the show.
What's the singing one?
Is it Lindsay?
Tiffany?
Tiffany Trump?
I'm not really sure.
Is that a person?
That is a person.
I think that's a got a face, huh?
All right.
So it's time for us to jump topics finally.
We're getting away from this Jamal Bowman stuff.
Let's go.
Let's now apply this to NATO, where assuming everything works out, this is the best result humanly possible, and it's been a big issue, not only for the United States, but the international community at large, right?
This has been looming where they're like, at what point are they going to come and actually collect on the bill?
So let's back up.
In case you've forgotten, according to the experts in the media, when President Trump, then elect, or then, sorry, nominee, or then guy they were trying to put in jail, then sorry, maybe guy they tried to assassinate, they told you that if he ever achieved higher office again, that President Trump was going to disband and abandon our NATO allies.
Here's proof.
One thing that Donald Trump has proven time and time again is something that's not trustworthy when it comes to standing up for our allies.
During his speech in Detroit today, the same one where he insulted Detroit, Donald Trump also bragged before the city's economic club about his willingness to abandon NATO allies in the face of Russian aggression.
You said, so for those of you keeping track, Trump says he will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours.
Putin tells him to go look like a cat leap.
The war is getting worse than ever.
And they play more clips, but I guess it's NATO time.
I think the last time we talked about NATO with Stephen, he was saying that we should pull out of NATO because ally countries weren't paying the appropriate percentages, which most of them weren't.
Sure.
Because I think it was supposed to be 5% of your GDP supposed to go to NATO, but for a lot of people, that's not possible.
Stephen was mad that the United States, for as long as it has, has been paying more than their fair share, but it's also because we have the resources to protect Europe because Europe is an ally that we should consider valuable.
You can save 5% of your income if you don't have to spend it all on bills.
You can save 5%.
Are you like a regular...
Who's the guy?
Dave Ramsey?
Yeah.
I'm Dave Ramsey.
You're Dave Ramsey.
That car is too expensive.
Why the fuck do you own three cars?
Why are Mercedes?
How much are you spending on prayer?
What's the rate on that?
There's a reason why poor families have a hard time saving money.
It's because they spend all their money on stuff they need.
Even though 5% is 5%, it doesn't work out that way.
But also, I don't know much about NATO.
I don't know much about how much we spend on defense of other countries.
But I will say that we have the most to lose.
Yep, that's true.
Yep.
Well, I think we're going to learn a little bit about what happened over the weekend.
Here's where we are now.
Yesterday, NATO summit.
Funniest NATO summit ever, by the way.
As they should be.
In Netherlands.
The NATO allies, most of whom didn't meet their spending at all while we overspent, they agreed.
They agreed to massively increase their spending to 5% of their GDP.
In a very historic milestone this week, the NATO allies committed to dramatically increase their defense spending to that 5% of GDP, something that no one really thought possible.
And they said, you did it, sir, you did it.
Well, I don't know if I did it, but I think I did.
Jeez.
Did you finish?
I don't know if you finished.
I think you did.
I think it'd be impossible not to.
Do they know that Trump's not in the room with them?
Yeah, let me do it.
Like, they don't need to laugh for him.
Quick little, where is it?
Oh, it's not hooked up anymore.
You heard it.
You get the point.
That's they're gross.
It's so gross.
It's so gross.
I just're laughing like it's like a date that they want to take home and fuck.
That's what they're laughing.
They love Donald Trump so much.
What if he hears this?
Oh my God.
Like, think about how much karma that's going to give them from him.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's going to love this shit.
Hell yeah.
Can you imagine?
Ah, man.
This is like same thought, different avenue.
But someone was telling me their boss, he went on this whole thing about, man, I have so many of these ideas on the Cybertruck, and I just can't wait to get them to Elon.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I'm sure Elon would have taken them very serious, these suggestions, right?
It's just sort of that same, the over 40, like, male pick-me energy is so fucking strange, man.
Well, it's called My Dad Didn't Love Me Syndrome, you know?
really or yeah like I it's He's on the show.
He produced all these things for him.
Well, money doesn't equate.
It's gross.
It's stupid.
And like, even for my most admired president, probably Barack Obama, I would have never talked about him like this.
No.
No.
He's a war criminal.
And he is a war criminal.
Very true.
Just to say, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, even before I knew or cared as much about that, when I was a young person who was excited for hope and change.
It sounds like they're chatting with an OnlyFans model.
Yeah.
An AI bot.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, one that's really popular that can tell.
Remember when Steven was talking to AI girlfriend in the truck the other day?
Yeah, when he snuck away to Gronk himself.
Yeah.
This does feel like an extension of that for sure.
Oh, it really does.
And also, talking about the actual meat of what this is.
Let me get to the meat.
About the daddy stuff?
Or do you want to talk about NATO?
No, I'm just talking about these people increasing their spending and Trump taking all the credit for it.
Sure, sure.
There's a couple.
I mean, obviously, Trump could have played a role.
I think it's probably fear more than Trump in general.
What I fear is it's fear from not being able to rely on the United States anymore.
Totally.
Or fear of repercussions for, like harsher repercussions than ever before because of the instability of Donald Trump.
Exactly.
That's what it is.
It's like if your neighbor's house burns down, you might go and buy a fire extinguisher.
And if they took credit for that, it'd be really weird.
Yeah.
I turned the hose on.
Or if your neighbor's juggling fire.
Yeah.
I would say I'm not going to really rely on that guy as much.
They are, dude.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, yeah, this is just the beginning of the conversation surrounding Donald Trump and NATO this week.
The NATO Secretary General, Mark Ruta?
Ruta?
Had called Trump daddy, and that's a win.
They've had it.
They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard.
You know, they fight like hell.
You can't stop them.
Let them fight for about two, three minutes.
Then it's easy to stop them.
And then Daddy has to sometimes use strong language.
You have to use strong language.
Every once in a while, you have to use a certain word.
It would be a lot less creepy if it wasn't that accent.
Daddy has to sometimes use strong language.
I like it when daddy comes home.
And my mother used to say, wait till your daddy gets home.
I get hard.
Sometimes you have to have your daddy spank you.
That's right.
I see daddy pick a cheek.
Which one's been worse?
Left and right, please.
How about both?
That's a reward.
Are we going to cut all those as clips?
I mean, yeah, that's all going on.
Like a four-sound board.
that's going on on the board I'm going to give you Yeah.
And they say daddy.
Well, Mark Root, actually, he wanted to clarify this, and this came out yesterday after the comments regarding the daddy situation.
He said, the daddy thing, I didn't call him daddy.
What I said is that sometimes in Europe, I hear sometimes countries saying, hey, Mark, will the U.S. stay with us?
And I said that sounds a little bit like a small child asking his daddy, hey, are you still staying with the family?
So in that sense, I used daddy.
I wasn't calling President Trump daddy.
Yeah.
And people who have a brain understood that.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, you don't let the word daddy slip on the world stage.
This is the equivalent.
I have a buddy who oftentimes will make a joke where he'll go, dad?
And that's basically what it is.
Yeah, and that's funnier.
Much funnier.
Just this last week, I've seen like four or five guys call him daddy, though.
No, no.
He's selling official merch now on his store, Daddy.
No, he fucking knows.
Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, he did a couple other things.
President Trump addressed it later in the press conference.
And I want you to pay very close attention to usually stoic, straight-faced, most improved Marco Rubio.
Hello.
Deborah Haynes from Sky News.
Mark Ritter, the NATO chief who is your friend, he called you Daddy earlier.
Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children?
No, he likes me.
I think he likes me.
If he doesn't, I'll let you know.
I'll come back and I'll hit him hard, okay?
He did it for me.
Daddy, you're my daddy.
Any hero comes along With a script of the barrier And a cast of business aside Wow.
I'll explain that really quick.
What the fuck happened?
I guess basically they just zoom in on Marco Rubio's face, and Marco is smirking and laughing lightly at the comments surrounding the daddy situation.
And they think that's funny because typically Marco Rubio is fairly straight-faced.
Okay, so they broke him and it's so funny.
And when they said daddy's going to hit them, were they like, please?
Yeah, they did do that.
Yeah, they think this is fun and hot.
Kind of hot.
This is the most pathetic shit I've ever seen.
Yeah, it's lazy.
It's so pathetic.
I've seen lazy shows by them, but this has to be one of the...
I mean, even that audio sting coming in when it did is just...
It was poorly mixed, and the bit wasn't funny.
No, it's really weird, shitty Pick-me energy.
Yeah.
I hate it all.
they did Trump tried to do Call Her Daddy podcast during his campaign trail.
Oh, that's the one Kamala did, though, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to look up some Trump Daddy merch to buy.
Oh, you should.
And you should.
You're going to love this.
Daddy's Home.
Because at first I watched this and I said, wait, they're not taking themselves seriously, are they?
And then as you continue to watch it, you go like, oh, it's just one of the best troll jobs and the funniest White House ever.
They released this hype video.
Just watch it.
I just want to get your attention.
You want to be your pen.
Here it comes!
*music*
It's a pretty good hype video, even though it's a troll.
Yeah, it's well done.
I ain't gotta do a lot of flexing.
Uh-oh.
You already know what it means.
I wonder how Usher feels about it.
Great question.
I did look to see if Usher said anything.
I think he's probably busy.
Spreading herpes.
Oh, does he do that?
I don't know.
I was going to say some pretty nice things about Usher, but maybe I'll just leave it then.
I was just going to say, I know that he's not a Trump guy.
That's all.
He spoke at the Kamala Harris campaign rally in Atlanta, Georgia.
Typical Democrat.
Yeah.
Spreading herpes.
Spreading herpes, of course.
And the content of that video, was posted on the at White House Twitter, and then I just went to there, and it looks like three hours ago they showed the graphic design coming together for the Daddy's Home America's Back t-shirt that is being sold on the website.
Is it this red one or like orangish red shirt with the I'm seeing this one on New York Post that's just like using the mugshot and it says daddy underneath it?
No, no, this is this is this is different, but it also feels kind of illegal to do this.
They're showing a graphic artist working.
It's like a screen cap of probably a stolen version of Adobe Photoshop in 2018 or something.
But I feel like that's illegal.
I don't think that you can promote merchandise using the official at White House Twitter account.
That seems pretty wild.
It may or may not be illegal, but it is absolutely pathetic.
I don't think Usher enjoyed that.
So we'll see in the next couple of days.
And I don't enjoy Steven getting all horny for Trump.
Oh, he's rock hard for Trump.
Under that desk, no pants on, wearing, what is he, Ranger panties like he used to?
The desk isn't even on the ground.
He's ZZ topping the desk.
People think because of the way that he speaks that he's bumbling.
I've never said that Donald Trump is anything other than smart.
He may actually be a genius.
And I think he may actually be a genius because we couldn't have predicted this being as effective as we've seen.
For example, with the border, for example, what we saw with Iran at negotiating.
This is a guy who has done this his entire life, pretty much exclusively.
You know, President Trump, as far as a business person, is usually about brokering, about negotiating deals.
He's not someone who's just running a shop.
And he does seem to have an ability to see the whole field or to see around corners, see pitfalls that other people don't see because now they're going to pay 5%.
Let's ignore the fact that he's been involved in multiple failed businesses like Trump Casino, airline, mortgage company, Trump University, the stakes, vodka.
It doesn't matter, dude.
Really, he's filed bankruptcy six times.
You can't do that.
Kill my boner, bro.
Can you do that for the country?
I guess you kind of can, can't you?
Throw it all on red, spin the dial, throw that nickel that you got left on a slot machine.
Throw that away, too.
Guy's a fucking moron.
He's not a genius.
Complete moron.
Yeah.
Jet sucks.
It's never.
You know, still, I'm waiting on the fucking no-tex on my OT.
That'd be nice.
Let's get started.
It's coming.
It's coming.
It's two weeks away.
Have you ever seen the thing where he says everything is two weeks away now?
No.
That's a really funny compilation.
When I used to work at Apple, they were like, do not say two seconds to anybody before you put them on a hold.
So now I just don't say that anymore.
Oh, good.
Trained it out of me.
Wow.
Give realistic expectations.
That's what we're doing.
I'll be back in seven minutes.
I have to smoke a cigarette.
Oh.
I'll join you.
Can you go on hold for seven minutes, please?
Keep in mind, before President Trump's first term, only 5% of countries were meeting their commitment of 2% of their GDP spending in NATO.
Now, that number is 23 nations.
Wow.
So that's 23 out of 32.
So it is, I mean, a substantial amount of people have started paying more, supposedly.
I don't know how.
That is, dude.
And you know what?
I've been really promoting women to carry pepper spray.
I think it's a really good thing.
I think that it's helpful.
They just don't do it.
Yeah, now it's a lot of fun.
And so I attacked a woman.
And it's amazing.
I attacked a woman.
And now, yeah, everyone, I'm a genius king.
Daddy's home, baby.
Yeah, daddy's home, and I'm so close.
I'm so close.
All right.
For example, they're going to now increase their spending to 5%.
And the UK is going to spend some of that 5% with us buying 12 nuclear-capable F-35s.
And Germany also buying three dozen F-35s.
Excellent.
Nice.
And it's just, it's one of those things where it's a twofer win.
He not only, he, if I, Sticker price.
They're going like hotcakes.
We can't.
I can look, I can't give you a discount.
I'm sorry.
It's full price.
Not wholesale.
Retail.
So, I mean, he's wrong here.
And I'll explain.
It's a little bit more complicated than that.
Yes, we are technically selling some F-35 fighter jets, but it's not exactly that.
The Arms Export Control Act, ever heard of it?
Nope.
No?
Nope.
Other countries can't directly buy F-35s, which are manufactured by Lockheed Martin.
They have to go through the U.S. Foreign Military Sales, the FMS program, which is a government-to-government process.
Basically, it's like indirect commercial sales from Lockheed Martin to other countries.
And they do this because they don't want to have a U.S. company providing weapons to other countries.
I guess it kind of makes sense.
They have to be brokered through the United States.
But the U.S. doesn't make any money really on these.
They charge administrative fees, basically.
Okay.
So what's Trump's commission?
So it's operated at no cost to U.S. taxpayers, and the fees ensure that the government doesn't lose money in the transactions.
That's it, supposedly.
I'm sure that there's some sort of corruption somewhere along the lines because it's such a fucking boner kill, man.
One of the strangest things is like Steven's cheering this on, acting like it's this huge win.
I was like, wait, what does Stephen think about Lockheed Martin?
Oh, I bet he has some thoughts.
I couldn't find any direct thoughts.
But then I looked into Lockheed Martin's ownership breakdown, which institutional investors do make up a majority of the ownership.
But the highest other shareholders here, BlackRock and the Vanguard Group and Stephen.
He loves BlackRock.
State Street Corporation, Charles Schwab, Morgan Sandley.
But we know how Stephen feels about BlackRock.
I'm sure he feels worse about them after he targeted them.
And dropped everything immediately.
Yeah, and I'm sure that there's an active lawsuit against him for the slander that he put out on his show about BlackRock.
I'm not going to go to bat for BlackRock, of course.
I still think that they're probably one of the most evil companies.
Companies?
What would we call BlackRock?
Investment firm.
Investment firm.
Yeah.
It might be one of the reasons that, I mean, probably one of the most evil influences on the United States, let's just say.
But for Steven to be cheerleading the sale of jets from Lockheed Martin to other countries that doesn't benefit the United States directly in any way, other than, I guess, sharing the burden if there was to be some sort of larger conflict between the NATO allied countries and an enemy, quote unquote, it's just stupid.
It's dumb.
It's lazy, and I don't know why he...
Too much winning, dude.
That's the only reason.
So that's that.
I learned something today.
I thought that was kind of fun.
Good.
You guys remember how last time Nick Dipp got distracted by CNN?
Yeah, the ages was...
a moment where he kind of just was zoned off and started talking to himself.
They like to keep CNN on the background kind of as a live...
Yeah, they use CNN as that for proving that they are live to tape.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Because, you know.
Because that's important, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah, of course it is.
Yeah, people are going to accuse us of not being on the spot.
Sure.
Having prepared stingers about Eminem, I guess.
Instead, I'll just say you guys spend three hours every morning doing a run-through of your full show.
Steven makes you get there at 4.30 in the morning.
He doesn't show up till 6.
Does he really?
I guarantee that's probably how he does.
And they do this also.
They don't have to pre-tape.
Just pre-tape.
Just pre-tape, guys.
Save a little bit of time.
It's not worth it.
It's fine.
Like the edit process and them having to look at it back and just be like, man, is this funny?
Do we have to shoot this again?
Having any sort of doubt about what they're doing?
No.
It just does it work in the room right now.
Does it make Gerald laugh?
That's all that matters, dude.
Well, they're never.
As long as Daddy's laughing.
All right, gross.
So this time it's Steven who's distracted by CNN, and boy is he confused and dumb.
Right now, look really quickly on CNN.
Doge cuts could weaken U.S. ability to handle Iran threats.
What threat?
Are you left there with the threat?
Are you seriously Americans?
Are you so combined?
So you guys see it.
It's just get the hell out of here.
That's it.
Oh, so now hold on a second.
The biggest threat.
The biggest threat facing the United States regarding Iran's nuclear capabilities is Doge.
Do I have that right?
I thought Iran wasn't a threat.
Well, that's what they're saying, for one.
They're saying that we've killed the Iran threat, right?
I mean, Iran may have been a threat.
I don't know.
I don't have any true evidence of that, and I feel like it's all kind of in dispute.
But Iran was certainly less of a threat before we bombed them, I guess.
Dropped some bunker busters.
Bunker busters?
Yeah.
I think their reaction to CNN saying that, oh, now we have weakened defenses is completely ridiculous and out of context, considering the fact that maybe before we bombed them, we would have said something like, hey, maybe we shouldn't start a war.
But now that we have, I think that not having the funding because of Doge cuts, that makes sense.
That's a true concern now.
Not only have you done something to antagonize a country, but now we don't have the funding to support.
Whatever will we do?
This is like when your check engine light comes on and you just spent all your money on the new Pokemon deck.
I gotta say, like, you sitting in the dark room.
Dude, that was crazy.
That was wild.
So we're watching Dennis on Zoom, but Dennis has that setting where it follows his face, but it did like a slow zoom on you.
It was like so cinematic.
It was dramatic, and I wish that that was recorded.
Damn.
All right.
We should never be in person, huh?
Other than the fact that Jared's coming to town in two weeks.
That's going to be awesome.
I'm going to make you do that.
Yeah.
Come closer, like that one TikToker.
Come here.
I think it is doing that, Dennis.
Yeah, yeah.
It's going in on you.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
We're having a great time.
Three sleepy sick boys.
Oh, man.
All right.
I'm going to get whatever Steven has.
Is that right?
I'm just kidding.
You should see how tan Steven is.
He's been at the lake house every weekend for the past.
Yeah, he's looking.
I mean, I think of his last year.
Are we approaching the anniversary of when they, they tried to kill Donald Trump?
That was July 13th of 20 last year.
That was when he was out on a boat at the lake house and he was all sunburnt during his first reaction stream of that.
So I think it all tracks.
Yeah, well, his birthday's in a week and a half or so.
Oh, yeah.
Not this Monday, but next Monday.
Oh.
So not this Monday, but next Tuesday.
Yeah, he'll be turning 38.
Welcome to the Next Monday.
Dennis gets to lightly poke that his birthday is coming around pretty soon here, too.
It might be the next day.
That's okay.
All right.
Well, maybe.
He's trying to retire, folks.
Shrug.club.
Shrug.club.
Send me some pics of daddy.
Are you trying to get Venmo stuff again?
Yeah, get Venmo money.
I'm trying to get him Venmo stuff again.
Stop trying to Venmo our audience.
All right.
Well, what I will get you, Dennis, is a username and password for my Disney Plus account.
How's that sounding?
I get it free.
I give you the Paramount.
Plus, I haven't canceled that yet.
I probably should.
There's not really that much on there.
Well, it's time for the surprising centerpiece of our show today.
Remember how Iron Man wasn't filled with?
Remember that?
That was fun.
Which one?
Back in the day.
That was, again, Steven being punched by a union member because of his.
Is that F-Slur?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When he wasn't full of what?
F-Slur tree?
Yeah.
I think it's just a little bit of a full-time.
The biblical version of that, I suppose.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you guys remember that?
That's a long way around to say this stuff that you see from Disney, the propaganda, legacy media, all of the entertainment media industrial complex, it used to work and shape public opinion.
Now, it has become the point of ridicule.
And that is the biggest win of them all.
It's time for Entertainment Minute.
Entertainment Minute.
Entertainment Minute.
Pretty lazy.
Yeah.
I'll get back in character.
I just wanted to.
Wait, wait, you have a character?
I have a character here.
He's debuting a new guy on this show.
We didn't know that.
Apple Jack.
Okay.
Come on, pop.
So, some people here in the office, I didn't have time, watched the first episode last night of this Iron Heart, which is part of the universe for Iron Man.
And of course, it's every progressive woke trope that could be fit in there.
Let's watch.
Trailer.
Tech is the future.
Reread, you can actually help people.
Reread?
Part of the universe for Iron Man.
What is this?
The show called Iron Heart?
Yeah, there's a new Disney Plus series.
It's a Marvel Iron Heart.
That's what it's called.
I'm sorry, how did he describe it?
Just some of the guys are there?
He said it's part of the universe for Iron Man.
Okay.
And listen, I'm feeling a lot of internal tension about this discussion because I am adverse to talking about dork shit.
And I don't want to sit around and talk about Marvel too intensely, but I am going to.
Because I had some experience with this.
I have a friend that I used to go see every Marvel movie with.
I remember one time the first of them I saw was the Avengers.
I think I started with The Avengers 2 in theaters because I wanted to eat movie theater popcorn for lunch.
So I was like, that sounds fun.
I'm going to check that out.
And they're enjoyable films.
Yeah, they're fun.
Don't keep up with them anymore.
Maybe it's the same with Star Wars, you know, the Disney plus location of it.
It's all the woke shit shit.
I don't like the woke shit.
Oh, it's just there's too much and I don't care that much.
I liked when Thandos killed everyone.
Yeah, Thandos and Gronk.
Do you remember that one?
100% of the woke shit's out of here.
He killed half the country.
It was all the libs.
But what's more important is that people can enjoy whatever they want to.
And Steven doesn't need to watch this stuff.
He doesn't need to talk about it.
That's why I feel.
You're promoting the show, Steven.
I didn't know about this show until you told me so.
I'm going to watch it now.
Yeah, you should check it out.
And I'm going to get horny for the woke show.
Well, you should.
Because this thing is so horrible.
About to snap your fingers.
The main character is Riri Williams.
R-I-R-I.
And of course, they have an issue with that.
Of course.
Riri Williams, it's not like they just made up that name.
It's been a comic since the early 2000s.
There's a lot of reason behind the choices they made back then and the choices they made now for this series.
And I guess we'll talk about it more as they.
The character is called Riri Williams or the person who played the character, yeah.
Portrayed by Dominique Thorne.
Mad about fiction.
Yeah, mad about it.
Fuck.
The trailer continues.
The ocean's 11 of the Sopranos.
What was the difference?
Okay, that's enough.
No, that's enough.
I don't want to do it.
That's enough.
You haven't gotten to the part about the suit being solar-powered yet.
Fine.
It's science.
Fine.
It's solar and wind-powered.
Oh, really?
That's fine, right?
Other than all those fucking dead birds around her.
Seriously, wind-powered.
She doesn't get that much power.
All these birds just at the base of her feet.
She has to crash land in the Hudson.
They're terrible.
Great.
Wonderful.
Stupid.
Dumb critique.
You know what, Steven?
Superman can fly.
Superman can go faster than a bullet and jump over a building.
And you have no issue with that, but because this one happens to be solar, it's an issue?
Yeah, it's annoying and it's bad.
And, well, it also...
There's no long-term solution for solar energy, Dennis.
It's a trap, and it's actually worse for our planet.
Yeah, the batteries are filling up the landfills.
Whatever gasoline energy.
It's the clouds, bro.
Honestly, like a still day is going to knock her out.
yeah.
They're just going to have to wait for a harp to turn on, and then it's over for all of us.
A little bit of weather manipulation talk.
Wonderful.
This is the real reason they want climate change so it gets more sunny.
Well, Steven, I mean, he's a huge fan.
He's seen this whole thing.
He's read all the comics.
Okay, let me guess.
You said you watched it, Josh.
So Iron Man is now basically the new one as a black chick.
Yeah.
Not exactly.
I'm starting to feel a little suspicious about Steven's intake surrounding this project.
Sure.
I don't think that they understand that within the Marvel universe, there are several different people who are kind of like Iron Man, right?
Known for being under his wing, using the suit and the technology that Tony Stark has created.
It doesn't mean that it's an Iron Man.
Iron Man's got a vagina now.
And it's funny because it's just the outside that's interchangeable.
They got a camel toe on the suit.
That's wild.
I can't believe they did that.
Hard-ass nipples on the road.
I was going to go there.
I couldn't find the right way to say it.
Wonderful.
Thank you, Jared.
No, but like, I mean, what about Falcon?
Is that that guy's name in the new Captain America?
Like, taking over for a cap.
Yeah, because he's a black guy.
And they put his dong like all the way down the left side of his pant leg.
I don't know why they say it's Spandex.
They got to watch out for these things, you know?
Yeah.
That's a problem.
I don't know if I recall Steven talking about the, was it the Morales arc of the Into the Spider-verse Spider-Man stuff, where Spider-Man's black, and then there's all these multiple universes with different versions of Spider-Man, including John Mulaney playing a pig version.
I don't know.
I'm sure they had a problem with it if they were aware of it.
Well, I mean, there's been like, there's like War Machine and shit, and War Machine is basically like gray Iron Man.
It's just, it's dumb and reductive to discuss.
Of course it is.
It's a black chick, man.
All right, well.
Black chick's woke.
Why is he, why one, he shouldn't care.
Two, if he's going to talk about it, don't talk out of your ass.
He doesn't care and he doesn't understand.
However, Josh seems to, this is really interesting.
Josh, this is his initial impressions and breakdown of what exactly this show is.
I don't know, man.
I kind of liked it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a black chick, and there's a lot of minority characters, and that's fine.
There's some white ones.
There's not really a lot of white ones.
There's only a few, and they're all like super negative stereotype white people.
Right?
It's like the very beginning, there's a white guy, and he's the dean of MIT, and he's the one who's angrily kicking her out of MIT after she made a bunch of mistakes and caused a lot of damage.
Okay.
Wrongfully kicking her out.
He's angry, gets mad.
He's like, You're out of here.
He has that voice.
He didn't say that, but it's pretty close.
And then you go to that guy that was in there.
He's like, where's your arc reactor?
That guy's like another stereotypical suburban white dude.
You're in his house at one point.
He's got a live, laugh, love sign above him.
Oh, my God.
He's scared of, he's terrified of this little teenage girl.
And he's got live, laugh, love twice in his little office.
And he's got, oh, by the way, there's a fourth live, laugh, love sign he puts to the trash at one point because he's like, oh, she told me to get rid of my dorky white stuff.
And then there's another scene where he steps in the neighbor's dog, little white neighbor's dog poops in his yard and he's like, and she's like the most annoying Karen white chick of all time.
Like the dialogue is terrible.
It seems like it was written by a fucking meme artist.
It's the worst.
Yeah, and then I understand a lot of trans in there too.
Oh, yeah.
There's some that they're supposed to be not.
Like you're supposed to not think that they're trans.
Oh, no, no.
You're supposed to be like, yeah, oh yeah, that's a guy.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like Nick Applejack here knows, he read the comic books, and he was telling me that the blood siblings, they call them in the show, they're actually known as the blood brothers and they're aliens and now they're just people.
Yeah, and then one's a female-to-male trans person who's supposed to just be this Mexican person with a really bad mullet.
And when they fight, they throw security guards across the room.
Well, it's many Mexicans.
And then there's one who's a trans person, and it's this giant black dude with green makeup and green hair and the nails and claps his nails as like a that's right, that's right.
And it's like 6'7 full of testosterone.
And in the comic books, Nick was telling me there's supposed to be like this giant fat guy, fat white guy.
Yeah, we have his whole thing is that he's a big fat white guy and he sits at a computer and does all the tech stuff in half.
That's a weird trans black guy who clips his nails.
Did they say that tech is the future in the start of this?
Was that one of the lenses that said tech is the future?
Like, oh, really?
Hi, 1980s.
Yeah.
Way to kill the momentum, Gerald.
What a stupid joke to wrap that up with.
Yeah.
That's so stupid.
Gerald, you're an idiot.
I'm not feeling Josh so much anymore.
I think that over the past he's really into this stuff.
I mean, he's not wrong about the percentage of casts being white.
Apparently, of the main credited cast, 22% of them are white.
Out of 18, it's only four.
Is this Josh saying that representation matters?
It does seem like he is saying that.
And he's kind of making that they were talking about how they changed the comic, right, to make it more woke.
Sure.
And how all the white people in the show were all like stereotypical white people.
And then they said that the comic had like a stereotypical white guy as like a dorse.
Oh, sure, sure.
Yeah.
It was a fat white guy who was the counter.
You're like, you seem to have no issue with that stereotyping.
That's me.
That's me.
When I read that, that's me.
And when you pull him out and you turn him into a black trans guy, well, that's not me anymore.
That's not me.
I have problems breathing.
I'm doing all the password admin stuff on the back end.
Yeah.
Ask me about your Google Cloud password, Steven.
You never ask me, Steven.
Your dad never stops.
The part that I liked the most there, though, is that he was like, you know, all this like, man, there's not enough white guys.
There's too many black guys.
There's trans clicking their teeth at me or whatever.
But then?
Nails.
Yeah, whatever.
Just sucking their teeth at Josh, probably too.
But that they picked up the security guards and threw him.
I was like, that's cop erasure.
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
I just thought it was annoying.
Oh, that's the vibe they're going for.
It's just like, I'm so mad about all this stuff, but also that they want to beat up cops and the markers represent ICE.
I didn't take that from that, but I'm glad you pointed it out.
I just thought it was silly that they are talking about a world where most people can throw someone across the room because they are superheroes.
They're saying that, oh my God, these small trans people.
Yeah, show me a trans person that can throw a saddle top.
Come on here.
Guys, it's a superhero show.
You don't need to have physical muscles in this world to throw people.
Yeah.
Did I just gerald that moment?
I feel like I geralded that moment.
No, no, you're totally right.
It's literally like...
Oh, wow.
Was it Penn and Teller?
No, I don't remember what it was.
Well, they can do it.
There's some comedian who has a bit where he basically talks about how he's watching Superman and Superman catches bullets with his teeth and the guy next to him goes, pfft, that's bullshit.
Like, that's what he dropped a lot.
That's it, right?
Not the flying part.
Everything else.
No one could fucking do that shit.
Are you kidding me?
You ever seen a gun before?
We should find that comedian.
Quick correction, though.
Riri as a character was introduced in 2016.
I think I said early 2000s.
Okay, yeah, so you're an idiot.
It is woke.
Yeah, I'm wrong.
And that's, if you feel free to convince me, no.
So this is a period of time.
A response to Trump, yeah.
Well, it was a period of time when Marvel was actively expanding its roster with more diverse heroes.
It's always been political and social.
Kamala Khan.
Yeah, Marvel from the beginning was like an anti-war thing, right?
It's the SJW comic series.
There's like one guy at Marvel who like wrote, you know, he's a conservative and he like wrote a lot of villains.
Sure.
And they're all like these like fat old white people.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not Dr. Doom.
Well, it's like the classic Captain America punching a Nazi, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what it is.
That's my dad you're hitting.
This period of time, they also created Kamala Khan, who's Miss Marvel, Miles Morales, like I mentioned earlier, Spider-Man.
And their intention was to reflect a broader range of experiences and identities.
And I don't see anything wrong with that.
Representation for readers and viewers is important.
Comics shouldn't be something that's gatekept by white 50-year-old men, you know?
Yeah.
They don't even fucking read this shit.
None of these dorks read this shit except for Corn Pop.
And it's because fucking...
Did you hear Josh slip three times calling Applejack Nick?
Did he?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's what he said.
Oh, yeah.
So, Nick, I see you.
Speaking of seeing, though.
For you, the only other time I put my foot down was cuties.
I'm like, look, I'm not going to watch it.
Okay.
This is probably worse than cuties, but let's show this.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Okay.
Oh, shit.
Just to let you know.
Your girlfriend be bigger than Jobs.
Right?
Bigger than Gates.
Bigger than Pim.
Right.
Bigger than Stark.
Yeah, come by.
Why are you going to get so big because someone used the N-word?
A couple things there.
Steven admits that he didn't see this.
This is where he draws the line.
He's super offended by this clip of this character of Riri saying that she's going to be bigger than Jobs, Gates, and Stark.
Yeah, it's impossible.
And then, I don't know if you heard it.
Without generational wealth, it's impossible.
Did you hear that in the background there?
No.
I know that you guys are across wires here, but let's play it again.
Oh, they did it.
They did it.
This is indirectly using the N-word.
Smoke detector.
That's a drinking game that we do, but it's like a sad drinking game.
Yeah, I'll take another hit of reefer here.
Yeah.
Ironheart pits technology against magic.
What?
Oh, I know it.
Okay, I get it.
When Riri Williams, a young genius inventor determined to make her mark in the world, returns to her hometown of Chicago.
Her unique take on building iron suits is brilliant, but in pursuit of her ambition, she finds herself wrapped up with mysterious yet charming Parker Robbins, aka the hood.
And here's the thing.
This whole thing is like Josh was just saying.
It's that Re Retarded, as a black woman, just can't get her fair share.
She would be the best bigot in jobs if I wasn't a black woman.
People wasn't racist.
Does Steven not realize that he's the racist here?
Being clearly and openly racist?
And he's trying to say that racism isn't a thing?
We're post-it.
Yeah.
Yeah, post- Is he a fucking idiot?
I think he might be like a dumb guy.
I just get to do it and you don't get to be offended by it.
Yeah, this is the guy who just did the dead battery smoke detector sound effect.
Yeah.
And he had to ask his guys to put it in and turn it up louder.
Yeah, and add like a reverb effect to it.
Yeah.
It's got to play against the background.
Yeah, it was pretty blended back there.
I didn't catch anything last time.
Was like a conversation in the first couple run-throughs.
I can't hear it.
Can we turn it up?
I got no smoke detector in my headphones.
I know that you've already bounced it the first time.
That's a great joke, Dennis.
Honestly, we should open a show with that next time.
I'm going to cut this, and we're going to start next week's show with that joke, okay?
Cool.
It's bad faith.
It's bad faith.
Clearly, this character is sharing their experience.
You know, obviously written their experience, but their character has this experience that is written to highlight the fact that black people in America have a different lived experience.
And it's because of people like fucking Steven Crowder who can't understand.
They do.
Let me tell you about your lived experience.
You don't know what it's like to be you.
Let me tell you.
This is how women get treated in my world, babe.
Come out here.
You touch the dog's ass.
Oh, no.
Okay?
We're bringing it back.
We're doing this.
We're touching dog's ass.
And when you get on your knees, okay, two things.
And a little locker room talk for you, mama.
Jesus.
Okay, next thing we're doing, blowing the cigar smoke in your face.
You are pregnant.
Touch the dog's ass again.
Watch it.
Watch it.
I can't do that either.
No, that doesn't work either.
Yeah, that's what.
Oh my God.
I've heard it so many times.
I'm just turning it into my own thing.
Yeah, it's a guy sucks.
In reality, here's the thing.
The exact opposite is true.
If you are a passable young black woman, there are all kinds of programs and incentives and subsidies to get you in STEM fields.
And then they inevitably fall behind by all the statistics we have available to us.
Well, she was on one.
Right.
So she's on the Tony Stark scholarship program.
Okay.
She got kicked off of it from costing the school like thousands of dollars.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Well, you mean she was a public vandal?
Oh.
In the comic, she attends MIT on a scholarship.
And eventually, I think one of the main plot points of this series is that she reverse engineers the Iron Man armor and takes flight on campus, apparently.
At that point, Tony Stark becomes aware of her talents and then, I don't know, supports her, becomes her, he's her mentor, which Tony is.
Is that why she gets kicked out?
And one of the plot points is that she is falling in with a tough crowd because she needs to make money to build her own suit.
And I think Josh kind of talks a little bit about that here in a second.
Well, after Steven continues to give the rundown.
He's like, I fucking hated this show, but I took notes and.
Well, he didn't watch it, but he is going to talk about DEI and STEM for sure.
Okay.
So a quarter of all TEL grant recipients are black, to be clear.
There's other programs out there.
Black Girls Do STEM.
National Society of Black Engineers.
UNCF STEM Scholars Program.
Now, just imagine, just imagine if any of you, just change it to white.
And look, look, here's the thing.
And it's fine, but everything is trans and everything is black.
I get it.
They're trying to say that there are so many young, black, brilliant mechanical engineers out there.
And I'm going to tell you, I don't think there are that many.
I just don't.
Is he getting tired?
He's exhausted by the level of...
It's been a long week of racism.
He's got Wakanda fever.
He's doing the marathon of racism on this episode.
So I think it's ridiculous to say that capabilities for African-American people, that they don't have the ability to be engineers, genius inventors.
I think that there's been a lot of institutional setbacks in fostering those types of.
Yeah.
Of course.
I mean, I was just listening to Matt Walsh recently, and he was going on some tirade about how a program to help get black women into pilot schools was the worst fucking thing to happen to America.
Why?
because he's an idiot.
But that is...
Oh, they're passable?
Yeah.
Did you hear any of that?
She probably worked.
Like David Dookie kind of stuff.
Oh, it's super gross.
It's gross shit.
Steven, you know, guy who was a child actor on a cartoon, should be one to understand that his hard work did not get him that job.
Not entirely.
Papa Crowder did that.
Darren put you on, bud.
He knew Arthur.
Directly?
He actually knew.
Yeah, he knew the rabbit buster bunny or whatever.
What are you eating, Jared?
I got a cherry in my mouth.
I forgot.
You forgot about your cherry spot.
You got so many cherries.
Yeah, Jared and I, we've been on some serious grazing lately, inspired by the Liver King 2.0.
I was out in my yard just picking through my strawberries this morning, grounding.
I'm going to go have a bungo after this.
Are it a bungo?
No, it's a bungo.
What's that?
A bungo.
It's like a Korean taiaki.
Oh, that's kind of fun.
Nice little chocolate.
It's a smoke and chocolate I got at a Costco.
Bungo.
See, he took the hat off and the blanket's gone, too.
I'm feeling hot now, so I'm going to take my tempen Z if my people run away.
Now, all of that to say, though, this is like obnoxious.
This is a struggle that affects many minorities.
He's reading into it because he probably saw somebody complaining about it on Reddit, and he's like, great, this is perfect.
Mostly Anglican.
Let's be racist.
Let's go.
I love an opportunity to be racist.
Angry, mustachioed feminists and trans lesbian queers intersectionalists.
They can't keep themselves from sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.
And they want you to feel guilty for being a straight white male who's part of a demographic that gave the modern world everything.
You can say that it's because it was oppression of everyone else, but not at this point in 2025.
You don't need to feel guilty.
We don't need to un-whitewash everything, whatever it is, transwash.
It's just designed to make you shut up.
It's okay and kind of fun to see things from other perspectives that aren't just like shows for white people.
How else are you going to understand what those people feel?
Well, he doesn't care to would be the first part of that, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, on this show, right here, we have three white straight guys who don't feel bad about this.
I'm still not going to watch this show, but not because of any of the elements.
I'm going to watch it just because I want to...
I didn't even know about it until he told me.
Well, that's exciting.
I'm glad I want to watch it.
And I gave you the passport.
Yeah, I hate to watch it.
Just be like, I'm so fucking woke right now.
I'm so fucking woke.
Here's what I'm going to do.
I have a long drive ahead of me late at night.
I'm going to watch that show.
As you drive.
Very cool.
To stay woke, dude.
And you'll be doing it across state lines.
Hell yeah.
And so it's like you're spreading the woke disease even further.
I love it.
Hell yeah.
That should be a fun late night Twitch show.
Woke and awake.
Woke and awake.
Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of fun.
I'm watching the most woke content on the internet.
And we're going to stay up all night doing it.
All right.
Lock in.
What was Steven saying, though?
We got to get back to that.
I don't remember.
Just that we should feel guilty for being white men.
Yeah, the purpose of the creation of this show is to make people feel guilty and be indoctrinated into trans, right?
Let's talk about that for a second.
What a narcissistic take.
You.
What?
You.
you more.
Yeah.
How dare you make me feel anything?
Yeah.
Write to us on Blue Sky and Twitter.
Do you feel guilty?
Why are we feeling guilty about any of this?
You don't need to feel guilty about this.
You don't need to watch it either.
Stephen needs to feel guilty for doing what he's fucking doing right now.
Yeah, he should feel deep shame.
Is that, I mean, like, he does feel deep shame.
That's why he feels guilty for this.
He totally does.
Yeah.
It's fucking, but it's like, that's his, like, my comedy makes me feel guilty.
It's just like, then stop doing it, I guess.
I don't know what to fucking tell you.
looking in the mirror and pointing the finger, you're the problem here.
You know, it's just It's a narcissistic take to think it's about him.
He doesn't need to participate.
Yeah.
This guy's just writing this character in 2016.
Like, I can't wait to piss off this fucking big-headed dork.
This gunholster guy is going to get so fucking pissed.
He's going to shoot his TV when he sees Black Iron Man.
Woman Black Iron Man.
Scares the shit out of him when that helmet comes off.
Fucking Elvis.
Yeah, basically.
Iron Heart was always a progressive comic.
For them to be offended that it is continuing in a tradition of growth and progress.
I just, I cannot.
The problem is progressive comics.
Oh, you're right.
That's the entire problem.
They just think that progressive ideas are dumb, and so if you like art that represents them, you're a fucking idiot.
Yeah, this whole comic about Captain America going home with his wife and her making him food and stuff like that for half of the comic, wouldn't that be cool?
Yeah, the second half of Iron Man is just Penny making him coffee.
Is it Penny, right?
There's Pepper.
Apparently like a Superman comic.
I just like hear about this earlier this week.
Heard about this earlier this week rather.
You hear about this?
You got a Superman and he's giving a bunch of hamburgers to Lois Lane and Lois Lane's a big, she's like a big breaker.
Oh, he's like a feeder?
Yeah, yeah, feeder gainer situation.
Is this real?
I think so.
I'll try to see if I can find it.
Hamburger.
What if the death of Superman, like they did it again, but he just has type 2 diabetes or something?
There's the one where he's eating a bunch of hamburgers.
We'll send that over.
All right, let's keep this going.
So here's a quote from Riri.
I need to find a lab so big it won't notice if I finesse a resource here or there.
So since she doesn't, here's the thing.
She doesn't have enough money.
And of course, you assume there are no other white people in her program who might come from impoverished families who don't have enough money and don't steal.
Her answer to everything in this show is to just steal it.
Sometimes when she doesn't even need to, like this bicycle.
Okay, so just so you know, she didn't steal a bicycle in the series.
That was a racial stereotype that Steven's leaning on.
Okay, look at the...
Look at the dictionary.
Yeah, I'm going to buy that poster for sure.
I'm going to send this other one right here.
Oh.
Oh, God.
What's going on?
And this is old.
This is 1975.
Yeah.
Burger eating cover, McDonald's.
Huh.
I sent a picture of the one below.
Yeah.
Superman, he's carrying a big Lois Lane, and he says, pardon my saying so, miss, but you're quite a load.
Puff.
The girl I most often fly with is slender, Lois Lane.
And then she says, I'm Lois Lane, or I was 100 pounds ago.
But Superman must never find out, and she's thinking this, never find out it's me, or I'll have a fat chance of winning his love.
This is real?
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Weird shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's woke.
It is very woke, dude.
Detective comics more like Okay.
Is there a fire outside your house?
What's going on?
I just saw big bright red lights, Jerry.
Yeah, it's a fire outside my house.
All right.
Well, so I do want to say that in Marvel comics, there are poor white characters, and they're usually helped out by white, wealthy characters, which is kind of interesting.
Like Peter Parker and his relationship with Tony Stark.
Peter Parker, for the most part, working-class hero, struggling with money, and he's a student and a freelance photographer, so that makes sense.
But then Tony Stark came in and financed him and his pursuits.
There's Matt Murdoch, who is daredevil.
I haven't seen that series either.
But yeah, struggling in Hell's Kitchen, New York, being raised by a single father who's a struggling boxer.
Guess who helped him?
Iron Fist, a billionaire.
Was it two-ton Superman?
No.
Shows up as this.
I got to turn this off.
Yeah, you're just digging into the Superman fat lore.
Hawkeye was helped by Tony Stark, of course, and he grew up in poverty and was raised in an orphanage.
Sure.
I mean, just none of it matters.
No, but Steve Rogers is rich, too, right?
He supported a guy named D-Man, Dennis Dunphy.
Never heard of that character, but...
And that's not to say that there aren't white wealthy characters in comics that help black people, but it's usually different.
Luke Cage is a working-class guy, but he's like a mercenary.
All of the black characters are usually just like, they're not being financed by these rich people, but they're being paid.
Sure, but I mean, regardless, they would not judge a white character on whether or not they steal something to achieve a goal.
Of course not.
Yeah, they don't care about that.
I mean, and that's also usually part of like the origin story of these characters.
And he got a blind one.
Isn't that pretty woke?
Daredevil, yeah.
I guess Daredevil is kind of woke.
Charles Xavier is in a wheelchair.
Did you know?
Of course he's rich.
He started a school for mutants.
Yeah, but it was because his dad, his dad did something.
Yeah, his dad probably owned slaves.
Was he a Nazi or something?
Dr. Brian Xavier, a wealthy and renowned.
He was a nuclear scientist.
Holocaust denier.
No.
I knew it.
I mean, maybe, kind of.
A nuclear scientist in this.
So that's how Charles Xavier got all his money.
But I guess, yeah, the School for Mutants, that's a situation where there's a little bit more diversity.
It's too woke.
Shut it down.
All right.
Well.
Government, take the money away from it.
What about that blue guy, dude?
Yeah.
I don't even know how to feel about that blue guy.
Night crawler?
Get out of here, right?
Yeah.
I don't get you.
Trump's selling that methylene balloon in the shop right now, so they should actually just pull him into the administration if they knew it was good for him.
That's kind of cool.
Get ahead of that.
I don't know what my thesis is here.
I think that there's clear lingering racism, even from back.
Oh, it's not lingering, bro.
These adjustments that are made like in series like Iron Heart, they make sense.
It's fine.
The time, the art created represents the time.
And he doesn't want it to change at all.
Yeah, there's like four guys that make every comic.
And if we outsource any of this to anyone, there's like other newer white guys that are like doing this shit also.
Didn't Brian Possain just recently stop doing Deadpool or something?
Yeah, he was for a while, yeah.
Scott Ockerman's doing Spider-Man right now.
Really?
Yeah, they have so many fingers going so many different directions, and they have so many people working on these things now that if you really just like have to have the white-centric version of that, you could still get it, Steve.
It's still there, you dumb fuck.
Look into something for two seconds.
There's something for you.
If you want to read comic books, comic books are fucking cool as shit.
I can attest to this myself.
I like some of this stuff, if you can believe that.
You like manga?
I got FLCL.
That's pretty much all.
Any of the nudie ones?
What?
Guys.
No.
I bought a Heathcliff one.
Nice.
That's close.
It's not manga, but it's like same size.
When he pulls that.
That's what determines that fish.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you read it backwards, too, if you're and upside down.
But, you know what I'm saying?
When he pulls the fish bones out of his whole throat, and all you can think is like, where's that gag reflex?
Damn.
Heathcliff.
Da-da-da-damn, Heathcliff.
Where'd you get that gag reflex?
Interesting.
Paul Shearer, Patton Oswald, as well working.
So it does continue to be very white.
So Stephen would be totally fine with this, except he doesn't like the woke comics.
Either way, bottom line.
Stephen is racist.
Yeah.
That's literally it.
He's finding new avenues through different forms of media to be racist towards.
He's pumped this show came out because it gives him some content.
That's all I'm saying.
Well, you know, it sounded like Josh didn't like this show, right?
Yeah, it didn't.
It sounded like he hated it.
Well, he might actually be all right with some parts of it.
No, by the way, she's a genius, right?
She's supposed to be a genius in this show?
She is a genius, yeah.
And I would like to give it a little devil's advocate a little bit, okay?
So the character isn't terrible.
The character's not terrible.
The story's not terrible.
And I can predict where it's going.
It's pretty easy to predict where it's going.
She is trying to get this suit.
She's trying to accomplish something.
She's trying to be great, trying to be remembered and make this great thing because she can, right?
That's the whole thing.
Why are you doing this?
Because I can.
Got it.
You're a genius.
Awesome.
And it looks like she has no resources.
She doesn't have the capabilities.
So she resorts to lesser desirable.
Yes.
Stealing, getting associated with the wrong people to get some money.
And you can see in the show, you can see her character having qualms, like having a conflict, an internal conflict with what she's doing.
There's a security guard shot.
She feels terrible about it.
She keeps asking.
They go, don't worry about it.
And she's with these, you know, undesirables that she's hanging out with.
And it appears that eventually in the series, she's going to, you know, turn from them and fight them.
That's where it says where science beats magic because this guy has a hood.
He gets a magic hood.
The problem is, when they swapped out all the, we're going to get to the gender swaps and the race swaps.
When they did all these things, they did it with the main characters of the show because they're main characters, but they're all bad guys.
Yeah.
So in trying to be less racist and sexist, they have become more racist and sexist.
All the bad people that are stealing are minorities.
Yes.
All the violent people are the gay and the trans.
It's like, you guys missed it.
You're not helping your cause at all.
No.
Is the cause of like pride and things to say that all trans people are good people and all gay people are good people?
Yeah, it should always be positive representation.
Yeah, of course, every time.
Yeah, it's okay to have a gay villain.
And didn't they earlier say that all of the bad guys were white people?
Yeah.
Well, all of the corny people were white, I think.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
I think that that's the thing.
Karen.
Didn't like Powerpuff Girls, like the big baddie on there, him, I think that they call it, but it was like a trans Satan.
Oh, interesting.
You know, I don't recall that.
Something like that?
Yeah.
Huh.
The bad guy.
Drag Satan.
You know what's really fucked up about this character of Riri, though?
Moto Jojo.
Is that they steal, you know, right?
Dude, that's really fucked up.
What an awful fucked up thing.
Not like, what was it?
Or Bucky?
Remember, Bucky was kind of the same thing.
He was brainwashed and became the Winter Soldier.
He was murdering them rails and the manuals.
Yeah, he worked for a Hydra.
And then there's Black Widow.
Black Widow is the KGB trained assassin, right?
Dude, it doesn't fucking matter, bro.
This girl.
She's from this girl.
She steals.
She has dark skin.
Sure.
And she steals things.
Yeah, okay.
Listen, she steals those things, you know, to achieve good, it sounds like.
But still, I mean, it doesn't make sense, man.
If my kid was dying and I had to steal bread to feed them, I would just start looking at life insurance policies so I could cash out when they died.
Jesus Christ.
It's just like, I just think it's a silly thing to hammer, Steven.
Like, most characters, as part of their origin story, remember Peter Parker?
He does like that, like, underground wrestling.
And that was like something.
Yeah, his uncle didn't like that.
He was doing that, right?
And then it ended up being kind of the catalyst for the death of his uncle, spoiler alert, right?
What?
Sorry, man.
I didn't really.
I didn't want you to hear about Uncle Dean.
God damn it.
I'm really sorry.
They're doing a re-release on part two in theater.
Oh, really?
Extended cut.
Yeah, right later.
I can see heaven.
Right?
Remember?
But heaven can't see me.
Oh, I forgot about that.
I'm a little bit more comfortable.
How could he see?
Oh, God.
I was going to release that tonight.
Chad Kroger featuring the guy from Saliva, right?
Oh, damn.
Very cool.
He's just a moron.
All the time.
Okay, so the hood in a comic book, white man.
In this one, it's a Hispanic man in the show.
The Hood's cousin, John King, in the comic, a white man.
In the show, of course, a Hispanic man.
Slug as a character.
In the comic, obese white man.
In the show, ineffeminate-looking black man, maybe trans.
I don't know.
I don't know anymore.
I don't know the rules.
The blood siblings, they're brothers, and they're aliens.
In the show, it's a girl and a female-to-male trans.
Though, that's actually probably accurate.
There are kind of like aliens.
Yeah, that's fair.
This is a new one.
Was Steven this upset when Scarlett Johansson played major in Ghost in the Shell?
Probably not, probably not.
Was he speaking out against the whitewashing of an Asian character?
Interesting, huh?
I don't know if he was.
Okay, cool.
I just was curious if he's racist or cares about representation of people.
The Hood's cousin is also Hispanic.
What the hell?
That's crazy.
I got new frustrated Gerald.
So we have Grossed Out, and now we have Frustrated, which is kind of fun.
That was good.
I love it.
I don't know.
How many more times can we say that they're racist?
And also, I think that all the characters that they are saying are trans.
I'm sure I didn't want to go character by character and look into them.
I don't think that that's the point of this.
Yeah, who gives a shit?
They're actors.
And they make a Disney show.
They're doing better than everyone talking about them.
Exactly.
Who fucking cares?
One of the things is that it's one of the first non-binary characters in the Marvel universe, is one of these characters.
And I think that's fucking wonderful.
Sure, yeah.
Well, it's like when people got mad when The Last of Us 2 came out and there was Abby.
And Abby was just a strong ripped girl.
And they're like, she's a trans.
Yeah.
She's trans.
And they're like, no, she just has fucking muscles.
Yeah, they didn't think that after it went on the boat.
They bet they didn't think that.
No, they didn't think that anymore.
No, they were confused.
They're like, shit, she's trans.
Why, yeah, yawing.
Just a hitting their head on the head with hitting their head with the hammer, their eyes popping out, tongue rolling out.
But there was an actual trans person on that game, but it seems they didn't care about that as much as they cared about a woman with muscles.
Yeah, they really don't like that because it's all this is physically intimidated.
Black people are dumb.
They don't go to MIT.
That's all he wanted to say.
And he had, again, I will remind you, he has not seen this show.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, other people did see this.
So Rotten Tomatoes, the score.
The critics, it's about 69%.
The audience is 65%.
But here's the thing.
The reviews were much, much worse before those bad reviews were just removed.
Just taken off.
The bad reviews were taken off.
So 65% is a lie because Rotten Tomatoes has become aware of this.
Disney has a lot of pull where when you see, and I think all of us at this point, we know, if you see a very high score from the critics and a very low score from fans, you typically know, okay, that means this is something that's designed for the leftist, elitist critics.
And you usually skip over it.
So now they're manipulating that.
That actually prompted this headline.
It said, Iron Heart review bombing proves some comic book fans still can't handle women of color in the spotlight.
What?
That's not.
You're the guy.
Yeah, I was like, wait a minute.
It's about you, Steven.
Didn't we just listen to an hour of this?
From him?
Yeah.
What the hell?
God damn, he's so fucking dense.
He's like, I got a million people that I talk to every day.
It's his dad, his lawyer, and probably Tim, I guess.
Maybe Nick.
I mean, like, his audience.
Oh, those guys, too, yeah.
The parasocial version.
Yeah, yeah.
Imagine having an audience like that where like you know how much of an impact you have in their life and they don't impact your life.
It's kind of fucked up.
Yeah.
I don't really like that at all.
Do you think Steven cries?
I bet he cries.
Steven Kreider.
Nice.
He definitely does.
I cry.
I cry all the time, dude.
I cry at every Coke commercial.
I swear to God.
Hell yeah.
Or that one insurance commercial where the kid died in an accident?
I don't know if I cared about that.
Oh, that's true.
So this review bombing on Rotten Tomatoes.
So hours before it premiered in its first three episodes on Disney Plus, the audience score, the pop corno meter, plummeted to 32%.
Okay.
This is, of course, notable because the show had not aired yet to the general public.
Only critics had early access, and that is counted on the Tomato meter, right?
I think so.
Yeah, yeah.
The negative reviews seemed to be part of an organized campaign, and this has been seen in the past with Ms. Marvel, other sort of, Woke stuff.
I mean, it deserves that.
Of course.
Yes, yes.
So many of the reviews are submitted by people who hadn't seen the show.
And the evidence that was cited by Rotten Tomatoes was timing and volume that they came in.
Sure.
They intervened and deleted the early negative audience reviews that were posted before the show was available to watch, which seems like a reasonable way to maintain the integrity of what you do as a website.
Their website is to show the honest responses of critics and fans to movies.
Well, that's why, like, you know, I mean, I trust the popcorn meter.
And that's why instead of watching Iron Heart, I'm going to watch a show that has 86% on the popcorn meter.
Okay, okay.
That's What is a Woman by Matt Walsh?
Great.
We should actually delete all those reviews.
I mean, definitely the one-star ones.
Those are wrong.
Yeah, those are too woke, also.
Yeah.
Snap my fingers on those ones, too.
Okay.
Well, see, it looks like.
Half of them are gone.
Looks like after the removal of those reviews, the pop cornometer rebounded dramatically, reaching as high as 70 to 71% within 24 hours, but it settled back down.
That sounds closer to what Josh was saying.
Yeah, he says it's not that bad.
63 to 68 percent is kind of more where we're at now.
We're talking about Braveheart, right?
Nope, Iron Heart.
Oh, okay.
I was talking about something else the whole time.
The blue Mel Gibson.
I thought this was like a Mel Gibson conversation.
I always thought you were talking about Dragonheart, the one about the little prince who was given part of the heart of a dragon.
Is that the plot?
I can't remember.
Damn it.
And it's he knows what women want in that one, or is that the beaver puppet?
In a quick correction.
He's talking.
I don't remember.
I know that some Marvel people are fist-clenched, Arthur-memeing right now at me.
It was Captain Marvel, not Miss Marvel.
I apologize.
Oh, yeah, Captain Marvel.
Well, I think that there's some ingrained misogyny in me saying Miss Marvel when there's an actual status attached to Captain Marvel is a different character.
Okay, is that the one that was in the series?
It's a series of Miss Marvel.
Yeah, it's like a young girl named Miss Marvel.
So I forgive myself a little bit, but I just want to make sure.
Yeah, and it's also more current.
It came out like 22 or something.
Oh, sure, sure, sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the tree.
But I know you're talking about Captain Marvel.
The tree and the raccoon.
The tree and the raccoon.
Like Garudu?
I'm not sure, but this person, Sorry, guys.
I really hate to break this to you.
Uh-oh.
Miss Marvel's name.
Let me just confirm this real quick.
Is it an Olson?
I feel like it's Elizabeth Olson plays Miss Marvel.
The fourth incarnation is Kamala Khan.
Oh, well.
And we voted for her, didn't we?
Well, yeah, actually, because I'm coconut-filled for a little bit.
Right.
The Black Little Mermaid was another one of these films on Rotten Tomatoes that got bombed, as well as The Acolyte, which I think was the Star Wars woke one that I think they talked about as well, right?
I can't believe that they actually went with that title, The Black Little Mermaid.
Oh, man.
Am I the bad guy?
Are we the baddies?
We got one more clip.
Sure, and none of this has stopped Disney from reimagining other classics, like our beloved Pinocchio.
And...
And I'm...
I'm real.
I'm a real nigga.
Whoa, Disney.
He's out of line.
And cancer.
Well, now it makes more sense.
The realist.
That's about all I can handle this week.
Because if you recall, they teased that Pinocchio said the N-word, and they just did a skit where they had Pinocchio say the N-word, I guess.
Who's doing it?
Was that Steven?
It was.
It did sound like Steven.
Yeah, it did sound like Steven said the N word.
He's like, my mouth will be the one that does it.
Well, remember, he's a voice.
You gotta get this word out.
I'm going to break through for white people everywhere.
Yeah.
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I don't know what to say about this episode.
Steven's a piece of shit racist.
It feels really unique, though, right?
Like this doesn't.
It's aggressive.
It's really on the face.
It's not even like hiding anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what was the cause of this?
Because they had a day where they didn't have any news to focus on, so they just decided to lean into...
Do you remember what we did a couple weeks ago, you guys?
Well, cracks all of his knuckles.
Yeah.
It's really busy.
It's time to get busy.
Hit the montage, and it's just them writing the N-word on a whiteboard.
It's like Bart Simpson, but it's just the N-word on the chalkboard.
Yeah.
I will say the N-word.
I will say the N-word.
By the end of this episode, I will have said it at least once.
I think the N-word count is three today.
Is that right?
At least three, yeah.
Very cool stuff.
I'm a dumb baby.
Can I just go back to the niche weird things?
Like, I'll go back.
I always want to go back.
Can we go back and see Fun Dip or something?
Yeah, we can cover the Campus Boys episode two.
I realize that we missed the entire month of May of the show, so I feel like we have to stick here in the present for a couple more weeks, unfortunately.
For a little while, yeah.
Then we can go back to May when it's vintage.
I don't know if we're going to go back to May, maybe May 2017 or something.
We'll do a May, like a May season where we do like all May from May over the years kind of thing, like a fun memory from an iPhone.
It would be fun to explore the Blaze TV era.
Sure.
I think that could be cool.
We haven't really touched that.
We could give you an introduction to Dave Lando, a proper one.
That could be fun.
A boy guy.
A boy guy.
Fuck, man.
I don't know what to say about this.
Yeah, it's just gross.
Really gross.
Like from the beginning, like saying, I'm going to start by saying Jamal Bowman is.
He doesn't know how black people live.
Welcome on the show.
Of course.
Welcome on the show.
And then we end up here with Pinocchio saying the N-word after discussing the black lead of a comic book where they were always a person of color.
Sure.
Just the whole, yeah, the whole episode is focused on the race issue that he has in his heart and mind.
Yep.
A little bit of NATO.
I mean, is that really what it is for him, though?
It's that he's trying to give other white people permission just to be openly racist like he is?
Is that like, he's like, it starts with us.
And we have to get people on board.
They have to agree with us about this.
And the more that I say it, the more that I publish myself saying it.
Totally.
I just don't really understand.
Like, his reach isn't what it Used to be.
It's not.
I don't think his audience is going to take the bait, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
You haven't seen the comments, brother.
Well, I think that I don't know.
You think about like a million people of them.
There's going to be some that are like dog shit, like he is.
And maybe he finds, maybe he finds like a new set of people who want to listen to this.
But this is a slippery slope for media in general.
It's very...
I don't know, you start publishing this stuff it kind of gets, uh I hope that he starts losing a lot of people from this.
Looks like we're seeing a 0.02% decrease from May 21st to June 19th of this year.
Sorry, baby steps.
Yeah, I'll take 0.02.
I like that.
Stagnant.
I appreciate that.
One of the strangest things is it looks like the website has risen 52.52%.
Weird.
But it's because every day they're sending out email lists, which is kind of interesting.
Yeah, so I guess that's working.
Other than that, yeah, 0% change in subscribers on YouTube.
Making people remember that there's the lineup.
That's bad.
If you're not growing, you're shrinking.
Yeah.
Wow.
All right, let's pray for that.
I am going to wish you two boys a good night's sleep.
And Dennis, please feel better, my guy.
Thanks for pushing through.
I will.
I'm going to sleep in so good tomorrow.
Sorry about everything with this guy.
He's just bad.
Thanks for listening, I guess.
I hope you had fun.
I was thankful to spend these hours with you guys.
Same.
I got to go to bed.
Listen, Jack.
South Africa.
I already did this.
I can't do it.
I'm trying really hard.
Hey, Joe.
I don't remember what I sound like.
Hey, Jill, let me ask you something.
I don't know.
See, that was the closest right there, actually.
I'm having a hard time remembering who I am.
I've turned 82 years old.
You get closest when you don't say words, which is the saddest.
My heart started bleeding just now.
All right, until next time, I'm Byron.
I'm Dennett.
I'm Jared.
Take care.
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