This week we return...to the beginning of our podcast. (Re)replatforming. Steven's good friend at Sound Investigations tricked someone at the CIA into talking too much about Alex Jones over a salad, and Elon is mad at Brazil, so Steven snakes his way into the situation for attention, possibly courting someone he believed was international to join Mug Club. Business as usual. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast.
Louder with Crowder.
My name is Byron.
I'm joined tonight by Jared.
You are.
And Dennis.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, man, I'm just feeling it.
Good, glad to hear it.
Just vibing.
Yeah, it does feel good to be back.
It does.
Let Stephen's divorcee, donk era, commence.
Is it official?
Yeah, yeah.
He mentioned it was official.
I mean, I just don't believe him.
I wasn't there.
I was.
I was the judge.
Seems like a conflict of interest, if I'm being honest.
Judge Denny.
Huh.
Content-wise, though, this week has been sloppy.
Mm, nice.
I listened to it all, hoping for some sort of gold.
I don't know what's wrong with me.
Just some, uh, some fool's gold.
Well, that's me.
What's that fool's gold called?
What, the record label?
No, the actual mineral.
The mineral that's fool's gold.
What the hell is it?
You're talking pyrite.
Pyrite, dude.
Even though I found something to talk about today, it's mostly pyrite.
Okay.
And that's okay.
I do have some sad news, though.
You're gonna be missing out on someone's tones for a while.
Gerald is out.
Well, that's the, uh, Ahoy guy.
No, fuck.
Oh, nice, Gerald.
Good job, dude.
Yeah, good job.
Bum, bum, bum.
That's IM5 right there.
It's not great, and I hate it.
No, his wife gave birth to their third boy.
Wow.
Yeah, Captain Josh and his shaved face.
I literally thought that they got the logo from the Lemonheads candy to do second chair today.
I was so surprised.
Oh, that's Zach!
That's Josh?
Josh.
Why do I always call him Zach?
I don't know.
I'm writing, I even wrote Zach in the docket, did I not?
I saw that, yeah you did.
Captain Josh shaved his face bare, he's taking over second chair.
Nice.
And in third chair today, and I haven't done this yet, there's a bumper for this panelist that plays ahead of all the episodes that he guests on.
Oh, like a little secret, like he's on the show if you know it's in there?
I guess so, it might be part of a contract.
This one really highlights what his Mug Club programming is all about.
Even the shit like you post, I don't know.
I get all kinds of shit.
Well, actually, that was from my manager.
It was a brawl in some deli in New York, a bodega, and it was these young black kids just tearing up the deli, and there was a thing of bananas on the counter that never got touched.
I just put that up there.
Imagine the bananas in the game.
You know, my manager yanked it down, my wife, and then she started to pack up, got a U-Haul.
I said, you fucking bitch.
No.
He's the OG.
He has his own show here in Mug Club, Monday through Thursday, 5 p.m.
Eastern, Nick DiPaolo.
Wait, what the fuck was that?
Was that supposed to be like a joke in there?
I don't know.
Just some guy shouting New York stuff about delis.
A Boston guy shouting New York stuff about delis.
Who would purposefully cut and edit that together the way that they did?
Yeah, it's like... It didn't tell a story, it didn't say anything, and it wasn't funny.
No, it's like... Nick did it himself.
He's like, this is it.
It would be like if you were listening to one of those things, it was like, all of the best songs of the 90s, and it was just like the fade-outs of each song.
Now that's what I call beginnings of sentences.
Yeah, exactly.
What the fuck was that?
That was terrible.
I have no idea, but yeah, quality, for sure, a great reason to support Mug Club.
Yeah, of course.
You know, if you want to hear ramblings that make no sense and aren't funny, Yeah.
We leave for a week, and I do want to apologize again for that.
We always, we run out for milk a lot on this show.
Sometimes it happens.
We were busy doing another podcast project.
Yeah.
Can't help it.
Sorry it happens.
We leave for one week and suddenly we're back to the beginning.
Look, today is a full house.
Today's theme is about not only re-platforming, but providing a platform to those who have been persecuted politically.
And I don't just say that.
It's not just my opinion.
Re-platforming.
Re-platforming.
Here we are.
One more time.
And it makes me wonder what exactly he's doing on this episode.
Just a theory that we'll talk about maybe at the end.
I can't tease it without talking about it, so I'm not gonna.
Is Jones back?
No.
Well, he is, yes.
But just like the 2003 film starring Sean William Scott in The Rock, Let's bring up the rundown.
We have Alex Jones on the show, some recent hidden camera footage from sound investigations.
We now know definitively that the American government, the FBI, CIA, three-letter agencies, were going after Alex Jones to bankrupt him, even though he didn't actually do what he was accused of doing.
They admit it on camera.
Big guess, big words.
So he got the CIA to get spied on.
He got the CIA to get spied on?
He spied on the CIA.
Flipped that shit around on them.
Oh, interesting.
That's not really exactly what happened.
Yeah, of course it's not.
I just know Stephen Wilhelmsen know that's not.
I mean, we're going to be talking about an old friend that he's bringing back.
Nice.
Not talking about Alex, but there's also someone else.
Paulo Figueiredo on the show.
He is a journalist from Brazil.
I guess that's the length of the clip.
Sorry about that.
Who's this?
He's a Latin American Steven Crowder.
Oh, nice.
For him being that, Steven doesn't seem to know too much about him, but we'll talk about that in a minute.
That's okay, I don't know anything about him either.
Josh, like I said, made a shocking physical transformation.
Muth is a baby's bottom.
Yes, my face is naked.
I feel like a woman without makeup and fake eyelashes and lip filler.
You're a woman without those things or you're a woman with those things?
I never feel like a woman, actually.
I want to take that back.
Yeah.
Shania Twain feels like a woman when she wears men's shirts.
I never understood that song.
Why is that in the lyrics?
Short skirts, men's shirts.
It's a song about being a woman.
He's trying to convince us.
I don't know.
I'm not convinced.
It wouldn't be my go-to.
Going all the way back to 1997.
Yeah, what?
Okay.
That's in the Q zone.
It's refreshing in a way, if I'm being honest.
Yeah.
It's also stupid.
Well, it's really strange that Josh thinks of his beard as makeup.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I have a beard a lot.
It would feel uncomfortable to take it off.
Yeah, it would, but it seems almost like he knows that he looks better with a beard.
Well, he actually doesn't look that bad.
I don't even know what he looks like with a beard or without.
That's true.
I don't ever watch this thing.
But for some reason, I get the sense, you know, after the last episode we did where I showed that musical clip of Steven making Not Gay Jared sing that song about being fired, I get the sense, like, the episode before the one that we're talking about today, which is the Thursday, April 10th episode, Josh had a mustache.
Oh, he did?
And now we're fully clean-shaven.
Okay, cool.
Do you guys want to do a hashtag clean slate for Josh's face?
Hashtag clean face.
Nice, I like that.
I think that this is some sort of a humiliation ritual that Stephen puts his employees through.
A control thing.
He made them shave?
Maybe for a skit or that as an excuse.
Or maybe if you want to be second in command you have to... You have to be clean shaven like Gerald.
No, I think he likes to dominate his employees.
Hmm.
It's like a weird hazing thing.
He's the boss.
Like grazing.
What he's... That's a bad, like, uh, cutting, uh, grazing my face.
Oh, that's a pun there.
Great.
I'm sorry.
Oh yeah, like I said, we spoiled this earlier.
Worst comic I know.
The funniest man alive.
You can see all his dates at nickdip.com.
Mr. DiPaolo, how are you?
Very good, sir.
How are you?
And I like to take that shirt off, Shania.
Hey, now.
Make her feel like a woman again, know what I'm saying?
I'd like to switch up your wardrobe, because you're full Canadian tuxedo today.
Well, for Christ's sake, I'm sitting down.
Oh, you can see my jeans.
I know, I know.
Goddammit.
I thought it would be the shot from here up.
I know, I get hit on by two gay guys at a bus stop on the way here.
It's Nick DiPaolo.
That's the funniest man alive.
Yeah, he's, you know, written all my favorite jokes.
Maybe a funnier guy.
I can't.
I'm just surprised at how flexible Stephen was with how big of a stretch that claim was.
No, he says that a lot.
The funniest man alive.
Yeah, that's a fairly common statement made by Stephen.
About everybody?
Or just Nick?
Just Nick.
He really, truly, well he thinks Norm Macdonald is funnier than Nick DiPaolo, but that's about it.
But rolling into the program, Sheila Jackson Lee, does that name ring a bell?
No.
Democratic U.S.
Representative for Texas 18th Congressional District, I think that's in Houston.
It was great.
been since 1995, two years before Feel Like a Woman came out. She was speaking at Booker R.
Washington High School in Houston before the solar eclipse on Monday. What'd y'all think of that?
It was great. I didn't see it. I didn't see anything.
I was jogging outside.
No change.
It got a little dark.
You just didn't notice.
Maybe.
Jared?
We were in the totality.
Oh, dude, you were in the path of totality.
Yeah, and it got really dark.
All the lights came on outside, which was very strange for that to happen.
And then it felt very strange going back into work as it was like kind of getting brighter outside.
Well, speaking of weird, though, Jared, this lady, Sheila, said some moon facts in a wonky way that Steven excitedly wants to exploit.
Oh, that'd rip her apart.
Sheila Jackson Lee, Democratic congresswoman, she told school children, and here's the thing, there are multiple failure- Yeah, I'll pause right there.
Yeah, Nick just calls her a bitch for, like, literally no reason.
Can we replay?
Because I want to hear exactly what he said.
Sheila Jackson Lee, Democratic Congresswoman, she told... I think stupid?
Something.
Doesn't matter.
It's just like, but remember this is probably the second run through the show so he knows how he should be feeling about this already.
Totally.
Ghoul children.
Here's the thing, there are multiple failure points when she describes the moon to children that she didn't need to insert but she chose to.
Everything is wrong and it's not a misspeak.
It's ongoing.
Sometimes you've heard the word full moon.
Sometimes you need to take the opportunity just to come out and see a full moon is that complete rounded circle.
Which is made up mostly of gases.
Yay for affirmative answers.
The question is why or how could we as humans live on the moon?
That's made of gas.
A gas is such that we could do that.
The sun is a mighty powerful thing.
It's almost impossible to go near the sun.
The moon is more manageable.
In a moment, or not a moment, you'll see in a couple of years that NASA is going back to the moon.
They're going back to the moon, but right now it's got a rocket in its eye.
I've seen it.
I mean, what do we want to discuss?
The bad accent by Steven?
The Rudy Ray Moore, like the blaxploitation accent.
Yeah, jumps right to that, of course.
And Nick talking about a frame of action.
That's always fun.
Let's move past all of that.
In response to an ex comment, which I got to say, Sheila, stay out of the comments at this point.
Nothing good there.
No, no.
No.
In response to her moon is mostly gases comment, she wrote, obviously I misspoke and meant to say the sun, but as usual Republicans are focused on stupid things instead of stuff that really matters.
What can I say though?
Foolish thinkers lust for stupidity.
But then yeah, after that in response folks bid again pointing out that if that was true then what she actually was intending to ask whether or not human beings could live on the sun is even more bizarre than saying that the moon was made of gas.
So Sure, yeah, her correction made it so that what the stuff she said made no sense.
But in response to that, she went on to say that Republicans should focus less on calling her out and more on prenatal care, affordable housing, and reducing student debt, which is not a very well-disguised approach in this situation.
She said a bunch of kind of dumb stuff.
She also said also I care more about these children who would not have experienced the eclipse in an Enthusiastic manner and I care more about protecting the rights of women and children than engaging in this kind of senseless dialogue I'm not gonna defend her her dialogue with senseless It's inconsequential I guess if you like really break down well, you know what she's saying or if one of these kids were like, you know these gases on the moon and Easily corrected.
We don't really have to worry about it that much.
I don't think that there's gonna be that much You know blowback.
Well, yeah, especially since this one-time celestial knowledge whoopsie It was just that one time right we can move on Well Well, this is kinda weird.
While serving on the House Science Committee in 1997, the same year Shania Twain's Feel Like a Woman came out, this committee is now known as the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, which has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development.
More specifically, having complete jurisdiction over NASA, she reportedly asked if the Mars Pathfinder rover had managed to capture images of an American flag planted on the surface of Mars by Neil Armstrong, presumably incorrectly referring to the flag that he put on the moon.
Yeah, Buzz put the one on Mars.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Let's go, Buzz!
So, let's go.
I don't know how to feel about all this.
I mean, other than Like, it's a whoopsie.
It was stupid.
It's a whoopsie, and here's the thing is that I don't know who this person is, and the reason I don't know who this person is is because they haven't inspired me as a leader, because there's plenty of people who have inspired me as a leader, and I think that what I see in this kind of situation is that people like Stephen will point out that, you know, this is just dumb Democrats.
And their skin color.
Yeah, exactly.
And their sex.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's just... Do a silly voice for us.
If the top leaders of our party were making these kind of silly, dumb things, I'd be really worried about the party.
But when I think about the leaders of the Democratic Party and the people who are actually making serious changes, they're well-spoken, thoughtful individuals who know what they're doing.
And if this person was on this committee, I mean, at the end of the day, committees need people on them, and I'm sure that there are people who are not fit for a lot of committees.
Yeah.
Just like Jim Jordan being on a House Ethics Committee or something.
I don't know what he's on, but I think he's on a Judiciary Committee or something.
I can't remember what he's on, but... Didn't our boy Mitt Romney take over the EPA?
Yeah, I mean, all of that.
But regardless... He's also 74, and I think that might be a problem.
Of course, yes, that's a problem in a lot of places, but yeah, I don't know.
I think that it's just... I think that for one of these things happening, I could find a thousand of that one guy who said that rape can shut down pregnancy kind of thing.
Or no global warming because they have a snowball?
Yeah, like, we can find a thousand, and I'm not trying to be like a whataboutist here, but it's just, that was stupid what you said.
Whoops.
Move on.
Yeah.
No one around her, this is someone, I've talked about this before, there aren't enough people around her going, you should shut up.
I don't believe in white supremacy, she makes it very hard.
Funniest man.
It's like that.
And who is it?
Maxine Waters?
Is that her name?
They're the same person.
James Brown?
Yes, they're the same person.
Fucking stupid.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
We're gonna figure it out.
I mean, it's not without its challenges to live on a ball of gas.
It's almost like we fall through.
Such a racist country.
She's a powerful woman.
You gotta be dog-styling me.
You've got to be dog styling me.
Yeah, also cool to point out Nick shortening doggy style.
I kind of like that.
I'm going to start using dog style.
You know, I gotta be dog styling.
What I don't like is him pointing out like another African-American U.S.
Representative.
Completely unrelated to this person.
I don't know what he's doing because he's like literally making commentary about racism while being racist.
Black leaders.
Yikes, man.
You know, I think that Nick should probably take all of this, though, and put it in his new intro.
Oh, yeah.
Cut it up.
Put it on.
Dog style!
That's the funniest thing he said.
And only because he said dog style.
He actually probably did that on accident, right?
I know he probably did.
The funniest thing he did was probably just a stupid mistake.
Ah, damn it.
Josh and Nick have some thoughts on her career path, some further thoughts.
Let's put her in charge of that project.
Yes!
Let's put her to sleep!
The sun is a mighty heat!
It's a mighty heat!
It's like she was describing wings.
Exactly!
Wild wings has a mighty heat!
It's hot!
It's hot!
It's hot as an Asian thing, not quite blazing!
But it's up now!
So!
Stackin' accents, again.
Yeah, he really rolled through a few.
I think he's really happy to have Nick on the show, too.
They're not supposed to be cussing.
Still in the first 15 minutes, and it's also a PG-13 show.
Yeah, yeah, dog style.
That's why he called it doggy as a swear.
Yeah, that's true.
Also, put her to sleep.
Yeah, Jesus, man.
What is wrong with you?
Maybe you just don't understand comedy.
Maybe I don't.
I don't understand the funniest man alive.
Well, the funniest man alive is busy being funny, which means that he is obviously not going to be keeping up with politics.
So he got some homework the night before, which he typically does.
Again, doesn't know anything about politics or the Alex Jones saga.
Have you been following the Alex Jones saga?
I don't know if you guys have been.
I did.
You sent me stuff to read last night, so I'm following.
He's a hero.
He's an absolute hero.
An American treasure.
I know I don't know him that well, but god damn it.
He's the OG, really.
He is.
So there was an undercover report.
Sound investigations.
Go and show them some love.
They're doing some great work.
Is that your guys?
No, they're not our guys.
We've worked with them, but they had their hands on this.
Isn't it beautiful?
Sound investigations.
Remember that?
Sound familiar?
No, but does Nick want to fuck this report?
Well, no, but Stephen might want to do that to Arden Young.
Remember?
No.
Arden Young was the woman that Stephen was openly hitting on sometime last year during the Pornhub investigation.
I don't know any of this.
We've talked about it in episode 17, victim-tive strikes, which is a pun that looks better than it sounds.
But yeah, I think, was Dennis not on that episode?
I don't seem to remember a Pornhub investigation.
I thought you were here.
So it was basically, they were talking to, I guess, undercover... I'll listen to our show and follow up with you next show.
No, you don't need to do that.
Arden, thank you for being with us.
Can you see me, hear me?
Yes, can you see me and hear me?
Uh, yes I can.
Now, uh, I'm saying our viewers like you.
They say you're tasteful, but they think you're cute.
Okay, our audience has good taste and I apologize that you probably have too much of a close-up on here.
All right, so kind of like Project Veritas style secret recording, they were talking to a programmer that had some valid concerns about age verification at Pornhub and then they also called ad sales folks over the phone that weren't, it wasn't even Pornhub, it was the people in charge of selling ads on the website and they kind of pressed on a similar thing.
Yeah, Steven was really creepy towards this person and commented that all the people watching needed to not objectify her while also va-va-vooming her, basically.
You have much too beautiful breasts for people to say these things about you.
I mean, you're actually very attractive and anyone would be very lucky to kiss those sweet lips.
Sugar mama.
I'm tracking this, though.
Sure.
I'll say the only Steven I remember like this is when he was on a local Fox about the Nashville Manifesto and he was being creepy towards that female host.
Remember that?
I don't remember him being creepy to her.
I know that he was treating her like she was dumb.
I just noticed his demeanor was so different.
He talks down to women.
So sound investigations do this style technique like they did against Pornhub, but this time... The CIA contracting officer, I want to make sure I get these names right, Gavin Oblenis, actually on camera, talked about how the agency operates and how it takes down voices that they don't like.
Gavin Oblenis.
Gavin Oblenis.
And he basically talked about how they use these tactics against Alex Jones, the goal was to bankrupt him, and they just sort of get some people to do their bidding.
And I know that people have said this before, and it's easy to put some distance between yourself and someone like Alex because he's a character, and he's incredibly passionate, and sometimes he gets some things wrong, but he's out there taking the hits.
And they can do this to anyone.
If they can do this to Alex Jones, if in Brazil they can do it to Figueredo, of course.
Not only can they do it to you, they are doing it to many of you.
I hope they're doing it to people who are doing wrong things.
Kind of like one of their roles is to...
Gather intelligence?
Yeah, yeah, and if people are... I mean, they're a law enforcement agency, and so if people are breaking the law, like Alex Jones was found to be doing regarding Sandy Hook, they should be appropriately addressing that, no?
Yeah, but that wasn't federal, and I think we'll get into that as well, but... Here's proof.
This is the CIA.
I want to make sure I have his title right, because they could sue for that.
Contracting Officer Gavin Oblenus on Alex Jones.
And this is going to be a longer clip, but before we get into that, maybe I'll talk a little bit about what a contracting officer is at the CIA.
A contracting officer is a professional responsible for managing contracts.
Big surprise.
The procurement process within the CIA, buying stuff, pens.
I don't think it's pens.
Yeah.
Butt pens.
Spy weapons.
Spyro-bound notebooks.
Spyro-bound.
Nice.
They oversee the acquisition of goods and services necessary for the CIA's operations, ensuring compliance and regulations, negotiating contracts, and monitoring contractor performance.
Sure.
Doesn't seem like a terribly active role.
I mean, they probably do a bunch of stuff, but it's probably not like they are actively investigating Alex Jones.
Paper pushing.
Sounds like it.
And here's Gavin.
But he doesn't know he's being recorded.
Trap some of these pro-lifers into doing things that they don't care about.
Yeah.
We call it a nudge.
A nudge.
A nudge.
Who would be like a big influencer that you're after?
You.
Like a... I don't know, like a...
I don't even know these names.
Like a Fox News person, or like a Tucker Carlson, or like... Oh, I'm sure he's in there.
Right.
He always wanted to pick us the loudest.
Like that, what was his name?
The one that said the Sandy Hook didn't happen.
Alex Jones.
Yeah.
So, we were after him.
You are?
Are you still after him?
Yeah.
Why?
Because he's broke.
He got found guilty.
And had to pay like a hundred million dollars.
So what, why are we after him?
We're not anymore.
Just to get the money from him?
Yeah.
So with Alex Jones, you were watching him long before anything ended up happening?
Probably.
He was in my office, but, I mean, we would have been well aware of what he was doing.
And the goal with him was what?
Just to bankrupt him?
Oh, pretty much.
And we let the families do it.
What?
We let the families do it.
Were they encouraged to do that by the Bureau?
Like nudged?
We don't encourage people.
We just say, there's no federal statute being broken.
But you do have the option for a civil, for a civil case.
And it's a pretty good case.
Nice.
In our opinion.
Oh, that makes so much sense.
I have a cousin who's a lawyer.
So that's a lot of these cases, they're kind of encouraged by the FBI?
Yeah, like, there's nothing federally, federal law, we can do.
But civilly, just go at them that way.
Chop his legs off.
And they did?
Yeah.
So the FBI was happy?
They didn't care.
We were like, aww.
Basically, the citizens did your job.
So you can encourage a civil lawsuit?
Not encourage.
But you can.
What can you do with people like Alex Jones now?
Is he still out?
Yeah.
He's still chirping.
He can chirp.
Are you still watching him?
No.
Why?
He did what we wanted.
Which was what?
He took his money away.
Oh.
We shut him up for a while.
You're never going to shut him up, are you?
Unless you put him in prison.
But again, he didn't do anything to go to prison.
Being ignorant is not a crime, though it should be.
I mean, you could bring a nudge.
He did an Inside a Riot like Cheeto.
He did an Inside a Riot like Cheeto.
Oh, so I mean there's a lot to unpack there.
Yeah, I think what stood out to me was when he's like they educate people about Lawsuit like so they don't encourage the edge.
Yeah, and he's like we don't care Yeah, you know which was an interesting comment because this guy keeps poking about that specific thing It sounds almost like what he's talking about in if I'm guessing the context.
It's something they're more so talking about like oh Hey, if somebody comes to you and says this guy should be in jail, I could see them being like, well, he's not criminally liable for anything, but you can sue him if you have grounds for that.
Which I don't think that that's unreasonable.
That doesn't seem beyond any... I don't know, but the thing with all of this is that these are all contextual things, and that's why it's...
That's why these are such hard to trust things. I mean any of this stuff if it comes from the left or the right, right?
If it's a hidden camera, pieced together, cut up, post the whole thing if you think it's truly damaged.
It's so chopped and the version that is available on Twitter or YouTube is only eight minutes, which is still
cut.
And yeah, I mean, I just if any of these companies said, hey, listen, we talked to this person and here is the entire conversation start to finish.
It'd be so much more valuable as far as like a trustworthy.
I don't think I can take this Oblevins guy very seriously, the way he's talking about all this.
It seems like he's almost like trying to get sitting in the restaurant, just like Salting lettuce, it looks like.
It does appear that he's salting lettuce.
Have you ever had just salt and pepper on lettuce?
I'm sure it's fine.
It's good, dude.
He's telling a story as well.
His responses to some of these questions aren't... He's planting statements.
It's like when you walk into one of those Dateline shows and the host is like, you just walked right in.
And the guy's like, I just walked right in.
He's giving him all these phrases to get him to repeat.
Isn't that what the CIA does anyways?
They pepper all of that in?
They pepper all the lettuce.
That's what they call it.
No, but he's making broad statements in a general way to represent all of the CIA as if he has the knowledge.
And I don't think he does.
Yeah, well at one point he's like, yeah, it wasn't my office.
We don't care about Alex anymore.
And I don't think he knows that they care about Alex anymore.
He's just saying what he feels.
And also, I think that we've all worked with people who love the attention Oh, of course.
I mean, this guy might just like the attention that he's getting.
I think he's exaggerating quite a bit.
Yeah, and it's... The importance of his position at the CIA.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely possible.
The whole nudge talk is quite interesting.
Like, nudge... What was the social media where you could nudge somebody?
You could poke people on Facebook.
On Facebook, yeah.
Yeah, you could poke, but there was a nudge, too.
What was the nudge?
I don't remember nudge.
That's not my office.
I think it was like a MSN Messenger or something.
But yeah, you could poke people on Facebook.
Let's bring that back.
Yeah, so there's a big cut, and then the topic shifts.
You said that there were FBI agents in the crowd at J6.
There always are when there's a big protest in D.C.
Just in case it gets out of hand, I guess.
But there wasn't enough to turn that tide.
I mean, I'm talking they maybe had 20.
You needed 1,000 to get rid of that crowd.
So they had, like, just 20?
Yeah, just to go through and see what they could hear.
You know, that kind of thing.
Yeah, definitely.
They needed a thousand leafs.
That's also Capitol Police jurisdiction.
They're in charge.
Why they didn't have more on hand, I don't know.
The Bureau didn't really want people knowing that they were in the crowd.
Because that would be overstepping their bounds.
A little bit.
Did people know that?
Why?
Did people know that the Bureau was in the crowd?
Nope, and probably never will.
You know agents that were there?
Really?
They probably never will.
New rules!
I'm with Bill Marget here.
Yeah.
Start the clock.
What I hate about that at the very end is just Stephen's attitude there.
He thinks he blew something wide open.
It's a celebration.
Honestly, if I was at J6, I would be surprised to know there wasn't FBI in the crowd.
There is obviously FBI at a large political event.
It's like being surprised there's an air marshal on a plane.
What are we, even more so if like someone on the plane was the Cyrus the Virus from Con Air.
Obviously this was a protest that had potential.
Hey guys, we're going to be traveling with a bunch of criminals and surprisingly nobody on the plane.
Can you believe these guys are infiltrating with these groups?
Like, our guys are probably giving them our secrets?
Can we just let O'Blevins eat the salad, though?
He keeps talking.
He keeps asking questions.
Salt that lettuce, man.
I think what's really interesting about these, when I see these kind of clips, is like, how do you get to the point where you're this trusting of this person?
I don't get it.
Because this guy doesn't seem to trust me at all.
Several times.
Or he's just not a serious person.
Yeah, it's also possible.
That's fair.
Who is this guy?
And we know him and we can, we're just, we're just taking Steve's word for it.
That's the name of the game for today's episode, but it's time for my favorite segment.
How can Steve make this about him?
They de-platform and arrest people who insinuate that there are agents in the crowd.
We've had episodes removed here on this channel.
So what they do is they remove people who actually point out the truth, admit behind closed doors.
Well, yeah, that's the truth.
We just remove them though.
There's no crime here.
It's just, oh, we'll have people go after him civilly.
Think about that.
And he also said the exact same things that we have been saying as far as it was under the Capitol Police jurisdiction.
And Nancy Pelosi refused to send more Capitol Police when they were requested.
Everything we have been talking about is confirmed here.
And that's why they targeted Alex Jones.
That's why we have been targeted here.
He's just like taking the pieces of what the guy said and just like, let's take those like poems on your fridge, making a poem.
Word vomit.
Self-preservation salad.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
That guy never said you can do civil litigation about J6 or something.
No, he didn't say that.
Oh wait, what's that?
We got breaking news.
What is it?
It's regarding Blenis Leary.
Oh shit.
And I'm just getting word right now, I just heard this from Mission Control, that, uh, I want to say Dennis O. Blenis, Gavin O. Blenis, Blenis, Blenis Leary, His LinkedIn has now been removed.
There's your before and after.
Excellent.
Think about that for a second.
He just removed it.
Probably because he's getting fucking harassed now.
Of course he is.
Who leaves their LinkedIn open if they're like being publicly... How hard is that to figure out?
It's not a surprise to me.
If I was being harassed on social media... Every single time!
This is like the third or fourth time in a show segment where we've covered somebody's LinkedIn or Facebook going away or their Instagram being removed.
We've seen Spotify take their songs off the internet.
Like we've seen all of this.
That's how it works.
But how relevant is all of this in general?
I don't know.
I don't know if this is admissible.
I don't know how this plays out in the appeals with these cases.
I don't know.
It certainly should be relevant when you're a private citizen up against some of the most
powerful agencies who have a never-ending supply of federal funding and you have a target
on your back.
It seems that you should.
They want to make Alex Jones seem like the big guy.
Biggest lawsuit.
Why?
Because he's a multi-millionaire.
This is the FBI and CIA.
They are the bully.
Alex Jones is a guy with a radio show and a podcast.
No, they're enforcement agencies that target people who do criminal things.
Yeah, that's easy enough.
They're not bullies.
Well, I think that they can be bullies.
Okay, I do want to be safe with that.
Yes, of course they can.
They overreach all the time.
They can be bullies, but let's talk about Venn diagrams here.
They can be bullies does not mean that they are never bullies.
Yeah.
Right?
And that's the thing is that what's happening here is they're acting like Alex Jones is just the most innocent of men.
He wrote a children's book and then the FBI came and arrested him.
When he was reading to children.
Yeah, he was reading to kids who were poor, kids who were murdered at school.
Dead children!
Goats!
You know, S.H. Kids.
Yeah.
S.H. Kids.
He's not a good guy.
No.
Like, objectively, he is really rude and really inconsiderate and disrespectful of these people who are going through
serious pain and struggles.
Uh-huh.
Doing it in a way that it's a civilly liable thing.
It's just, it's the most... call a spade a spade, man.
Yeah, nudge-worthy.
Wait, what's that?
What?
Oh, is there more news?
Yeah, we got more breaking news.
Oh, also, I guess his, uh, you just told me Oblenus' Facebook has been removed, too.
Yep.
Dennis Oblenus.
So, professionally, LinkedIn is gone.
How about his Grindr account?
No, of course not.
I'm willing to bet you that there are a lot of fake accounts.
That guy made Liberace look like Ray Lewis.
Also on his grinder, he plays the piano on a typewriter.
Gross.
Why was he so forthcoming?
Who was interviewing him?
A shirtless Ryan Reynolds?
Yeah, these... Truman Capote.
We arrest everybody.
Can I get some more cheese over here?
And they all think they're so clever.
That's the thing.
What a pompous big girl.
And Donald Trump, Cheeto, I call him Cheeto because orange.
See how I'm clever?
No, we see how you're horny and lonely.
Like to kick him in the snatch.
Guys will literally say anything to get laid.
Yes.
Interesting point, Josh.
What a wild rap up there.
A lot going on there, but I don't want to jump over Josh saying the big thing, which is that guys sometimes lie.
Yes.
They do.
Sometimes, guys.
People sometimes lie.
Let's be honest, guys.
Sometimes we're lying.
Sometimes we're trying to show off.
Let's be honest.
Sometimes we ain't.
Sometimes we like.
How big was the fish?
Also, the Cheeto comment came out of the mouth of the guy who constantly calls Joe Biden former Vice President Joe Biden.
And Diarrhea Joe or something.
Exactly.
So, no room to speak.
The classic, oh he deleted his Facebook.
Because he's being harassed.
Yes.
Oh, but then all the homophobic stuff.
Well, all the homophobia, but surrounded by actually questioning the source.
The validity of the situation, like what are they actually hearing?
Who's this guy talking to?
Like a shirtless Ryan Reynolds or whatever he said?
It's like, Yeah, half of that, half of that, right?
Who is this guy?
Who is he talking to?
Why is he being so forthright with this information?
But you know, Steven just hypnotizes them with this damn bimbo technique, and he lulls them into just agreeing with him.
And it's, you know, when we're on the lip said the Cheeto thing.
Well, I think what's funny is he talks about shirtless Ryan Reynolds there.
Yeah.
I think that Everyone, the entire world, can agree that shirtless Ryan Reynolds is like a hunk.
It's a hunk guy.
Straight up.
Everybody can agree with that.
And I think that shirtless Ryan Reynolds could get a lot of information out of a lot of people regardless of their... Do you think Nick DiPaolo would kiss Ryan Reynolds?
Isn't Ryan Reynolds a freaking billionaire now?
That's a great point.
Is he?
Well yeah, he's Deadpool.
And he's got Mint Mobile.
Let me look it up real quick.
Alright, well while you do that... Oh, we got Alex Jones on the line.
He's a freaking Alex Jones, who's on the line, negative 1.5 billionaire, sounding and looking healthy as ever.
If looking like he made out with an active beehive is healthy, then call me David Freaking Goggins.
Mr. Jones, you're not calling from your studio here today.
Can you see me and hear me, sir?
Yes sir, I can see you.
I've been watching and enjoying the broadcast and I'm in a hotel but I come back to Texas today and so I took a few days off here with the family but as you said I'm going to be back busy putting out those Mug Club reports as soon as I get back and it's great to be here with you.
When he opens up his eyes, it kind of looks like, I don't know, like, what's the Big Muppet, Sweetums?
I don't know, I was not a fan of those.
Sweetums just waking up.
That's a lot of fun.
Imagine being the hotel front desk when Alex Jones arrives.
I'd be like, oh my fucking god, seriously, man?
Did you just kiss a bee?
Most of this call is pretty insufferable.
You know, he just kind of repeats lies about all the awful things he's done, runs down the list of excuses for Sandy Hook and... Reasons.
Yeah, how he's the victim.
Fair, he is.
And even more so after this.
Have I been saying Blevins or Blenis?
I feel like I've been getting it wrong a couple times.
Stephen's trying to confuse us.
His name is Connor O. Blevins.
O. Blevins.
I guess after all of this, you know...
There's this feeling of justification, also feeling of illness, because it seems like he definitely caught COVID-19 on this trip.
We're not gonna listen to most of him talking, but I did make a super cut of his sick noises.
Nice.
Thank you. I was TIA. The essay. No. Yeah. Part where it sounds like he's about to wind up. I love the.
The inhales are so fucking funny, dude.
He's not doing very well, folks.
Alex Jones, master of media.
Yesterday's news today.
Of course he had his finger on the pulse of all this the whole time, yeah?
Yeah, of course.
What was your reaction when you first saw that video?
Was it mixed emotions?
Because you know and we know that you've been railroaded.
Did you feel some kind of elation because it was confirmation?
Or was it mostly just anger because you're seeing someone blatantly admit it?
Well, I actually heard about the video from you guys.
I don't know if you know that.
They've been trying to contact me for a week, and of course it was just going into a black hole.
I have a great crew, but they don't check the tens of thousands of emails we get a day properly.
I don't know how they could.
And then one of your producers called and said, hey, they're trying to get a hold of you.
And I knew who the group was.
was with the folks that exposed pornhub targeting children and also Planned
Parenthood selling you know eight and a half month old aborted baby parts
illegally. Yeah. So it's a very very credible group that kind of split off
Project Veritas very similar to your investigative unit. I mean very similar
to his investigative unit not credible.
Yeah, not at all.
Also, I wanted to mention earlier, Stevens had something along the lines of like, I don't know if this is admissible, meaning he doesn't care if the research he's doing is bringing about actionable change.
Whether or not it's legally admissible doesn't mean it doesn't have like a social Reaction.
Yeah, all Steven wants is a social reaction.
Yeah, I think that's pretty much what he cares about.
He has no respect for the criminal justice system.
Yes, unless it benefits him.
If he uncovered something and then he privately discussed that with, you know, law enforcement of whatever to actually actually save a life of some kind.
Yeah.
He couldn't do it because he wouldn't be able to talk about it.
And he'd have to, he'd want to talk about it so hard.
Yeah, I did listen to Stephen, his second appearance on Piers Morgan as well this week.
And I don't know if it was within that or in an earlier episode this week.
I don't know why I brought up Piers Morgan, but he was talking about how he doesn't believe that he has the right to perform journalism if we're limited by two-party consent recording.
Oh, sure.
He's saying that if you can't secretly record people, then you can't be a journalist.
I think that he's kind of skipping all the stuff in the middle, like the research.
He doesn't know what a journalist is.
Interviewing other people.
Yes, he just doesn't know what a journalist is.
So he thinks that you just have to secretly record someone until they say something that benefits you and then sniff it out.
Did you know there's no news in two parties' consent states?
It doesn't exist.
Dozens, yeah.
My news is just someone doing a transcript of a brief conversation.
Yeah, they described the conversation to me.
But yeah, that's I guess that's how he views all this.
And that's kind of why he considers himself now a journalist with an organization called Mug Club.
Journalist.
Do you find it interesting also that considering all of that, Steven's the one that broke this to him?
Isn't he just like hyper online?
Or is it really true that he did just wake up from several days of sleep?
Well, we're going to get... Before having this conversation.
He emerged from the vending room where the ice thing is.
He fell asleep in there.
Well, the mysterious veil of where Alex is is going to drop eventually, but not quite yet.
Let's review the facts of what this contracting officer confirmed.
He admitted that.
He admitted that there was nothing that you had done that was criminal.
That's what's so scary.
He says, yeah, but we have other ways to damage him.
Let's just bankrupt him.
We've talked about this, right?
There are the courts, which obviously are corrupt very often.
And then there's the court of public opinion, where there's no accountability.
And he was saying, we know, effectively, what I'm seeing is him saying, we know we can influence the courts through abusing the court of public opinion.
Interesting that that's what he took away from that.
Yeah.
Steven doesn't care at all about influencing the public opinion.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not what he's doing here every day.
I'm sorry. You're just coughing cuz he's covered. Yeah, not criminal, huh? It's also interesting how much this plays
into The segment after this one. He's got great programming
instincts today, but it seems like Alex has a grip on all this
Yes, I've talked to several different civil rights law firms and
I've had four conversations with four law firms since this just broke
Well, I was talking to him before it broke. So in the last week, you know, they just broke a day and a half ago
It seems like a million years ago now and so it's a big deal. You know, it's all God
Yeah, you're opening up the mouths of these evil people to then expose themselves
The Bible says the pit they dig for you the pit they will fall into and so absolutely
I don't like taking on the FBI CIA But if somebody's on top of you breaking your nose and
punching your eyeballs out and and gang raping you been running over you
Backing over you. All you can do is fight back And and then punching you again and then and then they're
putting you in a freaking headlock and giving you a big old noogie
No, they'd and then then they do this thing when your heads in the headlock, but they slam it against the bar
And then they drag your head across the bar and they're like knocking all the bottles everywhere like clank clank
clank Yeah, your head that's plowing them out of the way
So what you're saying is that... And then there's like a there's a bartender's door at the end there and he just kind of gets your head there and he starts going clack clack clack like and he says the door is eating my head and I just have to stand there and take it.
So Alex Jones watched Roadhouse.
Is that what we were saying?
Probably.
He definitely did.
Folks, I really gotta say that Jake Gyllenhaal did a bang-up job and Conor McGregor, you know, he had a lot of really good moves out there on the dance floor, if you know what I'm saying.
Another innocent man, of course.
Conor McGregor?
Oh yeah.
Okay.
No, he's not a criminal who also has got domestic abuse charges.
No, that's fine.
That's a couple little smacks.
He did punch an old guy who was sitting on the...
What are you talking about?
He acted like he was planning for this story to break, but then he said that he had never heard about it until Stephen's team had mentioned it to him.
And how long has Stephen's team known about this?
How long has this episode been in the works?
This is on a Thursday.
You know from the history of the way that they release these types of scoops.
It's almost immediate.
Yeah, and I mean, if you got a scoop about somebody on your show, on your network, you would definitely give them a heads up before anything was dropping.
Especially because Stephen seemed like he played a big part in getting this one covered, right?
I mean, Stephen's friend.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I'm saying big part meaning Stephen received this story or whatever.
I guess, yeah.
I've talked to four civil rights lawyers.
Dude, you're not even in your office.
Really?
You're on vacation or something?
And he's only having to talk to four because he has yet to pay the bills for his other ones.
Yeah, who's taking this on?
That's the other thing.
That's the he talked to four.
He probably, like, called four and they're like, Alex Jones?
No.
Bye.
Absolutely not!
What?
That's one, two, count them all.
I did my job.
I'm going back to the pool.
I'm going back to the pool.
And so when I talked to Elon for two and a half hours a few months ago, and I've since obviously talked to him a few other times, I'll leave it at that.
He really gets it now and understands that it was all a psy-op.
And so yes, there's a good chance I'll be doing a Spaces either Friday or Saturday.
I'd love for you to be involved, but that's hopefully the worst you'll ever know.
I was supposed to be on one with him when we were talking to him with Zero Hedge a few months ago, but he had basically a migraine headache.
That's all very interesting.
Tomorrow's Friday.
We'll see if it happens.
Yeah, we'll see.
Zero Hedge did a live debate with Destiny and the Krasenstein brothers and Glenn Greenwald and Alex Jones almost two months ago at this point.
I wonder if that was what they were trying to get Elon Musk involved in.
I don't know if Zero Hedge and Alex are working together on other things, but that's super interesting.
Also, I don't think Alex has talked to Elon since the Twitter spaces when he got reinstated.
I would doubt it.
I don't think Elon likes Alex Jones.
He said some pretty bad things about him in the past and just because he reinstated his account because he is a free speech absolutist, I don't think he likes him.
As long as you don't mention any cisgender on Twitter.
Yes, of course.
Knowledge Fight listeners would know that Alex has been doing more spaces in place of the Collins on his show since he got reinstated.
Oh, like Twitter spaces?
Yeah, just kind of opens the door for people to comment and discuss.
That a user named Adrian Ditman has been calling in who sounds exactly like Elon Musk.
Okay.
Which there was a lot of debate.
Is it AI?
No, it's not.
He really does sound a lot like Elon Musk, whether or not that's because he's a fan of Elon Musk, which he is, or he's just pretending.
It's either absorbed or intentional.
He could be Frank Caliendo.
But I don't believe that it's Elon Musk.
There's been a lot of debate going back and forth, and I don't think it is.
He's been calling in and Alex is basically giving him the floor every time and winking and nodding being like, oh, okay.
This is the guy.
It's Adrian Dittman, the guy who sounds a lot like Elon Musk.
Yeah.
And lets him talk for like 30 minutes or an hour.
Great.
Kind of even like moderate the Q&A while Alex eats sandwiches on the air, which is pretty cool.
Does he ever say what kind of sandwiches he's eating?
Oh no, he usually cuts away when he eats sandwiches, but you can tell.
There's a feeling, a vibe.
There's a feeling of sandwich in the air?
Yeah, it hovers.
So either Alex does believe it's Elon, or he's trying to convince his audience that it is for clout.
Bottom line, I don't think he's talked to Elon.
Yeah, I don't think he has.
Could you imagine listening, like being like a third party on the phone with Elon and Alex talking?
It'd be like the worst podcast.
I mean, I did hear the Twitter spaces, and that was really, really, really tough to listen to.
Yeah, so we'll see if it happens over the weekend.
Oh, it's time for more conservative media call-outs.
The conservative civil war, they're calling it, between Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens.
Lovely.
And Stephen has played a part in this as well.
Sure.
With his criticisms of other people on the right, and he is not shying away from that tonight.
Let me kind of tell you something, Alex, that really bothers me.
And I know you've had to deal with this.
I know that Sound Investigations, I know they were working on this.
And I know that, you know, these kinds of things that, you know, they circulate before they're made public.
And there are a lot of people and outlets who could have.
Which is kind of the same thing he said regarding the Nashville quote-unquote manifesto.
conservative outlets aren't brave enough to be publishing this type of information.
What's happening is Stephen's getting this and then he's shopping it around to these places and they won't pay him
for it and he gets mad.
This is separate from Stephen. This is sound investigations, but I don't believe that a responsible media outlet would
view this type of journalism as newsworthy.
I don't think that they would want to piggyback on this reporting.
Yeah, they just see how reckless it is and they're not going to be associated with it because it'd be liable for some... Because they're journalists.
They're real journalists.
Yeah, but there's one type of conservative relationship that you should never turn your back on.
Any guesses?
No.
And I'll tell you this, this has happened to me.
People have seen it publicly, but for every time they see it publicly, they don't see it privately.
You know, for example, when I've been on Pierce Morgan's show, every time he tries to get me to go on and denounce Alex Jones, and I said, no, I'm not going to.
You're not going to get me to say that I agree with everything that he says, but you're not going to get me to denounce him or condemn him.
Why?
Because he's my friend.
Because he's my friend.
He's my friend.
He's my friend.
That's so nice though, isn't it nice to- I'm not gonna leave him.
I'm never gonna say anything bad about my friend, no matter what bad things they do.
I don't really agree with everything he says, but like, that's my real boy right there, dude.
Pierce, you're not- I don't even like you, Pierce Morgan.
He's my man, dude.
Like, I'm always with him.
I just don't think that that's a reasonable way to respond to when someone does an atrocious act.
Like, if you did something bad... No... I don't know if I'd just not talk poorly about you because you're my friend.
Yeah, I'd be like, what the fuck, really?
You mean, what the fuck, really?
That's my friend, dude.
Saying that's why Jared's my new best friend.
You're accusing him of that?
I like Jared more now.
Why?
He got my back, brother.
Thank you.
So let's point this barrel at the real enemy.
Turn around, look at those red lights turning off.
The liberal fake news.
Remember how Trump's always been saying, Turan, look at all those cameras turning off.
They wouldn't air this.
That's where we should be looking.
Yeah.
Well, the reason they don't people talking to Stephen Crowder or Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson is because we're popular and we're telling the truth and the organic population likes us.
And we have the big audience system. So the media still, the corporate media, the downstream media,
still wants to be the gatekeepers. And so all they're doing is gatekeeping, and that's their
last power. They have almost no viewers. It's a complete joke. And I found that the hit pieces
only create more support. And I'm not going to go to a long story, but just briefly, I'm here in
Hawaii. It's already in the news. I'm here. I'm going to go back there.
Go ahead.
He's in Hawaii again.
Oh.
Back very soon.
He's got his Tommy Bahamas on.
I bet he loves Tommy Bahamas.
He's got his khaki cargoes.
And you know what he did?
You know what he did?
He actually bought a coconut farm and now he's going to be called Coconut Jones.
Oh wow.
Right next door to Roseanne's farm.
That's right.
Did you read Roseanne's new book?
No.
Is it also a kid's book?
No, it's a full-length book called Rose Anarchy.
Is it really?
Yeah.
Holy fuck, man.
That's really cool.
I've been thinking about picking it up.
Wow.
Yep.
But even TMZ said, oh yeah, you know, we snapped a shot of him getting iced tea, by the way, at the bar.
I was down being good.
And people were coming over, shaking his hand, saying good job.
And I'm not bragging.
It's not about me.
It's that Freedom is popular.
I was here in Hawaii.
I like to come here every few years.
I was here in Hawaii like five or six years.
And I shook a lot of hands, but I got yelled at four or five times.
I had to come over and step on my fingers when my hand was out of the hot tub and say, you know, some punk had to call security.
I have literally shook, which I don't mind doing, but I can barely even go to the grocery store or walk down the street or go to the beach.
The police, the people at the hotels, almost everybody.
I mean, I was at the grocery store yesterday and had like 25 people Black, white, Asian, old, young, Hispanic, all listeners.
So, so whatever the globalists have done, they've really, really, really, really screwed up.
Because these people aren't just like, hey, I like your show.
They're like, hey, when are you coming back?
You know, I've seen, uh, you know, Owen's been on the show.
He's great, but where are you?
You know, I happen to know you're here in Hawaii.
And, and I love to say, hey, man, we love Steven Crowder.
Literally, I mean, every day is funny.
He's a gas station.
I love Steven Crowder.
I love you on the show.
We are the media.
And, and, but, but, but, but, Kissing the feet of Steven.
I love that switch.
I imagine how absolutely out of his mind Alex Jones is.
He said that 25 people lined up to shake his hand.
Would you think I was crazy if I told you that he says that absolutely every time he goes anywhere?
I've heard him say that exact same thing of police officers, black, white, Asian, Mexican, people shaking my hand.
He's like that one Will Smith song that says, black, white, Cuban, Haitian.
Everywhere I'm going they're shaking my hand.
The time that I saw Alex Jones... At the Bernie Sanders rally.
Yeah, about four years ago, and he wasn't touching anyone's hand.
The only thing that he had was a bullhorn, and he was talking about the globalists.
And I kept asking him, what?
Can you start over?
I don't understand what you're talking about.
He had a bullhorn and security, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Security, his camera guy.
You just haven't met him, dude, when he's on the island.
Dude, he's at an ABC store.
He's buying some, like, I bet Coconut Jones is actually very cool, and he's eating the Poke Bowl.
Hey, brother, you got to get one of those musubis when you go back in there.
Get a musubi.
He had to call security when someone stepped on his fingies?
Are we serious?
This is the guy who's supposed to be the alpha male, the guy who turned himself red with pills, remember?
This whole thing's embarrassing, especially when he talked about being on TMZ.
The TMZ article wasn't super kind.
to Alex.
Is that the one where he was at the Lucy's Fried Chicken and everyone's just recording it?
No, this is a new one.
Oh no.
This is just from the 5th a couple days ago.
The headline, Alex Jones so chill in Hawaii.
What's this?
Still owes millions to Sandy Hook families.
It's got this really sad picture of him Lookin' like he did get stung by bees, by the way, Jared.
Great observation.
He's just kickin' it at a bar.
He's puffier than P. Diddy, I'll tell you that.
Is he by himself at the bar?
No, he wasn't, but... I had some ladies with him.
Well, he had a lady.
20, 30 ladies shakin' his hand.
Why doesn't he have sunglasses on?
I mean his eyes are just swollen shut.
He just stared at the cliffs.
That could be.
The long one from the bar over here where he's got the upside-down cup and his eyes are just... I mean like it looks like he is either sleeping at the bar or he can no longer open his eyes because they have swollen shut from the aforementioned bee attack.
One time I went to Hawaii and saw a really swollen seal on the beach.
It could have been Alex Jones.
You got a picture of that seal?
I do, I'll send it out.
We'll put that on Twitter, at Van Crowder.
Yeah, I'll send a picture of Alex Jones.
Alex Jones, this is from the article, I guess you can call a TMZ post an article.
I like that it says Aloha right underneath it.
Yeah, it's kind of nice.
Alex Jones is living it up in Hawaii, chilling by the pool and drowned in drinks.
Even though his massive debt to the families of Sandy Hook victims remains unpaid.
Eyewitnesses on the island of Kauai tell TMZ... TMZ?
TMZ!
Canadian all of a sudden?
The controversial podcaster was at a ritzy resort earlier this week with his wife Erica.
Remember Erica Wolf?
You've heard her music before.
Oh.
Also a yoga instructor.
Okay.
Yeah, and they didn't appear to have any other family or friends hanging with them.
Jones was dressed pretty relaxed for his tropical vacay, sticking to t-shirts and shorts while he hung around the pool, hotel, and bar area.
Yeah, they come around with the mortar and pestle and they're just making the guac right at your table.
Guac at the table, wow.
It's worth sticking around a couple weeks.
While he's keeping a pretty low profile, we're told at least one person did recognize Jones and came up to shake his hand and compliment him and his work.
So 25 people.
One or 25?
Well, we're rumored to have at least one person that recognized him.
Well, 25 is at least one.
Yeah, that's interesting.
The article goes on to talk more about the situation with the Sandy Hook families.
Saying, all of this and more is covered in the new HBO documentary, The Truth vs. Alex Jones, which takes viewers through Jones' comments and subsequent trial.
Jones doesn't seem to be sweating the documentary or anything else, though.
He's clearly on island time.
He's an island boy!
He's just kicking it with his Ohana, dude.
Yeah, watch the movie, though.
It's available now.
I wanted to ask.
Truth vs. Alex Jones on HBO Max.
It's wonderful.
You know, Steven and Alex have been doing a lot of talk, and Nick, he wants to give this interview thing a shot.
Obviously good at it, right?
He has to be, I mean, he's the funniest man alive.
He's got to be the most intellectual man alive as well, right?
Nick DiPaolo is here, and he did have a question for you, if you can... First of all, thank you, Alex, for taking the slings and arrows and being the stand-up guy that you are.
And this is only going to make you stronger the same way all the indictments with Trump and stuff.
My question is, When Trump gets elected, uh, how are they going to, um, how long is it going to take to uproot this cancerous deep state?
I mean, uh, you know what I mean?
How long does it take to, he wants to clean house.
I don't know.
Is that logistically possible?
Yeah.
And will he do it?
Oh, his head just dipped underwater.
Nick, Nick, just saluting him.
Hey, first time, long time, Alex.
You guys know that meme of that meme of the guy with his arms out taking all the arrows in the back?
Yeah.
That's all this is.
This is Alex Jones doing that so Nick DiPaolo can tell stupid fucking jokes.
God, that was incredible.
That's why I thank you for your service.
I think we need to get... When I see you I see a real American hero.
You know that clip of that kid?
Did you ever, when you, you know that, if you ask them, you can, if you, that's basically... I was gonna say this had the same vibe of a dad letting his son ask a question of like... Yeah, he has no idea what he's even asking to start either.
Hey, so broadly, the deep state, can we, like, just stop it?
That's a good question.
That's a great question.
So after letting Alex fever ramble for about 30 minutes, clearly sick, he jumps ship.
Steven, that is.
And Alex, I hate to, but we do have this Brazilian journalist who's also experiencing, you know, very similar kind of timeline to what you are.
And for people watching, you can go to a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of He did a lot of Ruth Crowder.
Do you mean .com or .net?
I think .net is probably the right answer most times.
It's renewed.
Did it?
Yeah.
Nice.
How much a month?
Yearly domain registration.
Of course.
Aren't they doing like a $10 off right now?
It's a really good time to get on the ground floor.
It's a great time to get on lotterthecrowder.net.
Yeah.
He had to bounce, which is good.
He kind of pushed him out of there though.
Alex, uh, I got another guy on the phone here.
I gotta The whole interview he would keep saying, huh?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, uh-huh to try to find his way to stop Alex talking Yeah, and he a couple points was like Alex I just need you to give me a quick answer on this one because we don't have this much time and then would ask a question and then Alex would do the same thing he does he gets gallops right through yeah, dude, I It's incredible.
It's a skill.
That's why he was in Hawaii.
He was using coconuts to make galloping noises.
Oh, for fun.
A little foley.
Foley, yes.
So speaking of Elon Musk, Elon has decided to pick a battle with the country of Brazil.
Fairly large.
Okay.
Yeah, that's fine.
Steven and the boys have been talking a little bit about it.
They think that the censorship in Brazil is something that they should focus on, even though they're the ones that are always talking about, you know, America first.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't police the world unless it's... Unless it affects Rumble.
Yeah, exactly.
Because I want to be Rumble's eldest boy.
Yeah, I'll let Stephen kind of recap the situation.
We discussed this yesterday.
We have some updates and we have Mr. Figueiredo coming on, Paulo Figueiredo, Elon Musk, and the Brazilian Supreme Court Judge Alexandre de Moraes.
Is it Moraes?
I hope I'm saying that correctly.
De Moraes.
De Moraes.
They have been going after the timeline here the more we add it up, especially when you look at what's happened with Rumble.
Is alarming, and it's not about what the left does.
Here's what the left would do if they were completely unfettered.
You're kind of seeing that in Brazil right now, where rumble is not even available in Brazil, and this man who's a journalist there has had his passport revoked, his bank account's frozen, he's been deplatformed, and it all can be traced back to the government, and really one key Supreme Court judge, Marias.
He basically thinks he's this guy, the Megamind to take down Musk.
It drives a point home, but it's childish.
How accurate do you think this bio of this Brazilian journalist is?
Seems like he knows a lot about this person, right?
Yeah, it seems like he maybe found a couple talking points that fit his agenda.
Interesting.
I wonder.
We'll find out after he talks about Supreme Court justice in Brazil.
Let's go through this timeline here.
This Supreme Court Chief, sorry Justice, not him, but issued an order allowing the court to open their own investigations.
So they gave themselves permission to run investigations.
The first order was given to Marias, and the first thing that Marias did was order a magazine to retract an article accusing the
Chief Justice of corruption.
We're going to give ourselves the ability to investigate anybody. Okay, great. First order
of business, we are going to order you to stop pointing out corruption. Think about that for a
second. They're not even trying to hide it. What else has happened? This man, Marias, has arrested
or ordered the arrest of eight businessmen for WhatsApp messages.
He's jailed people without trial for social media posts.
He's banned Telegram.
He's tried to, and this is something else too, tried to before X, tried to bully Rumble into removing accounts.
It's almost like Steven should just be celebrating how free America is.
Yeah, I mean, I don't understand why Steven is so anti-policing the world that he's gonna dedicate this part of the show to stuff happening in Brazil, which nobody thinks Brazil is the bastion of free speech.
It's not Denmark for happiness, you know?
Brazil's pretty interesting, right?
Because they have a Enacio Lula da Silva, president of Brazil, and essentially what they have done is tried to offer basically the most progressive agenda to South America.
They like Bolsonaro on the crowder side of things.
Of course they do!
Because he's a real shitheel and You know, they don't appreciate when people want nice things or consequences for actions, things of that nature.
Brazil had a January 6th type of situation last year.
Yeah, it wasn't as crazy, but there was definitely some pushback to the election.
Yeah, there was some pushback.
The Bolstoneristas.
Yeah, there you go.
There's no winning, I guess, if you're a leftist in this situation because... I just don't know why Stephen's focusing on it.
Well, I kind of do, as most U.S.
politics tend to stem from.
Elon Musk.
Okay, yeah.
This journalist wrote an ex to Elon saying, your company has been imposing a draconian ideological censorship of the Brazilian people's right to free speech.
That's a...
This journal is Figueredo.
Figueredo?
He calls them Figueredo, which sounds like figure eight.
Oh, but it's probably like Figueredo.
Figueredo.
Going on to say, we are, we're at a critical moment in history.
What the fuck is going on?
We thought you bought Twitter exactly for this reason.
Rise up and lift censorship now.
Musk replied, I will look into this.
It's pretty cool.
Go fuck yourself!
It turns out Brazil has been requesting censorship of specific people by Twitter, including Bolsonaro, and they didn't list any names of other far-right people.
That's just assumed for that reason.
That's why Steven, I guess, cares.
So it sounds like Elon Musk has this option to block X in Brazil entirely.
Yep.
Or just obey the government's rules because that's how it works if you're not a part of that government.
Yeah.
Okay.
They're basically just stating that, like, we have a particular set of laws here that state if we've banned these people from using these platforms, you must also ban them.
And he's saying, no, no, no, fuck that.
That sounds like if I went to Europe and they said you drive on the other side of the road here.
No, we do it this way.
No, I'm okay.
Elon got involved in a similar thing over in India.
He essentially lost that case and so he backed off of it.
And so basically for India to have X in their country, he has to follow all of their restrictions on it.
and so it's like unless he has like to get his hands dirty in the actual like court rulings of these things and he doesn't take it seriously yeah so it's just sort of like it's it's not a law until like you prove to me that it is or something it's like you don't even fucking live here get out of here For one, we're going to see our own morality as Americans, right?
We're Americans.
Stephen's not, but we are.
We're Americans.
I think technically he is.
I know, I know.
But of course we're going to see it that way.
And we're going to look at those rules and say, well, that's, you know, not rules.
I disagree.
We don't think those are fair.
Yeah, of course.
Stephen can say it isn't fair, but he's not a Brazilian citizen.
So he can't change those rules or affect those rules.
Obviously, he might have some pull in Brazil because people may watch him.
I don't know why they would, but they might.
I don't either.
I think his intention by having this guest on is to, you know, expand his Brazilian audience.
Yeah, maybe.
He goes on to talk a little bit about that.
So you have X, you have Rumble, you have going after a magazine when you're now basically in charge of a new court.
A new court that, I don't know, handles elections that a lot of people think was corrupt and if those people complained that it was corrupt they were accused of rioting.
I don't know if you see those parallels there.
He has also personally ordered I would say witch hunt, political prosecution of our next guest, journalist Paulo Figueiredo.
This man has had his passport revoked, he's had his bank accounts frozen, he's had his social media censored.
All of this for simply having a point of view that is deemed unacceptable in Brazil.
So please, let's welcome our new friend here.
I hope we have him on the line.
I know we're making this call internationally.
Mr. Paulo Figueiredo.
I haven't left that in for a while.
I love his transition into interview music.
It's pretty good.
That's real?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I just picture it was like, hey, how are you doing?
And they just cut to his Zoom and that's just the music and he's like dancing.
Oh, you thought that was Polo tracks?
He was like on Periscope dancing with like a taser.
Polo on the beat.
Yeah, that's cool.
It's time to talk to him.
Did you put that bit in there where he's like, you sounding foreign gives us a little bit more cred?
It might actually show up here.
Mr. Figueredo, can you see me, hear me, sir?
I can hear you and see you perfectly.
If this call was international and I was in Brazil, I would be in jail.
I'm in South Florida, so this is a domestic call.
Well, I apologize.
I wanted it to seem more international because it makes us seem more cultured.
But you still have an accent, so that's nice.
It's not as severe as a lot of Brazilians.
How did that happen?
I went to school here.
I study here in several schools, and I've been here for 10 years.
Otherwise, again, I would be in prison.
Yes, I can imagine!
His fucking blood is just boiling right now, dude.
He just said, you've been here for how long?
The funniest thing is, I did a little bit of research on this guy, which he's actually been really hard.
I can't find much about him.
Yeah, it's pretty tough.
The first video I found he's talking about how he moved here and went to school here.
So Stephen did absolutely no research.
Yeah, but also this guy is an immigrant here.
Yeah.
Stephen hates it.
He's not into it.
Doesn't want to go back to his old home country.
No.
Well he's saying he can't.
I think that's kind of debatable and I think there's other reasons for that if it is true.
But it's okay for him to do it because he's conservative.
He's got shithead tendencies.
He's like looking into the damn mirror right now.
Paulo does have a show on Rumble.
Political in Portuguese.
So, interesting.
Do you think that the guys on Crowder's show can tell the difference between Portuguese and Spanish?
I think Steven might because he's a Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy and he rolls a lot.
Well, yeah, but none of that matters.
It's time to jump into the interview.
No softball questions.
Okay.
A couple of questions before I ask you about some of these details.
What does, uh, esso mean in Brazil?
In jiu-jitsu they always go, ESSO!
I mean, yeah, that's right.
Oh, OK.
Cool.
Did he ask him anything else, sir?
So one quick question for you.
What does the flag look like for Brazil?
He basically asked the question that most eighth graders ask anyone from a foreign country.
They say, like, how do you say shit?
And he tells them, though, he's like, it's not really shit.
It's more that you're telling them about your sperm.
Yeah.
Do farts sound different in Brazil?
We're not joking, though, Dennis.
This is truly what he asked next.
Oh, God.
yeah like 10 minutes of this interview it feels it just goes on for so long he's asking him like hey man what do you think of this like silly accent they actually cut Nick's mic during this because Nick was saying like kind of inappropriate stuff it seems Paulo is an interesting character.
In most interviews that I've seen says that he was one of Brazil's most popular journalists until the Brazilian Supreme Court censored his reporting, canceled his passport, froze his bank accounts, and suspended his social media.
Why would they do that?
So this was more than probably 10 years ago.
So that's the interesting thing is like if you... Fascists.
He lives in the United States so there's no way that they froze his passport until he was already here.
Yeah.
So what is this timeline of being one of Brazil's most popular journalists?
He says that he was on like the equivalent of Fox News.
On some nights even they would have more viewership on his show than on Fox News.
He was Brazil's Tila Tequila.
He had some great bulletins on MySpace.
That's how he's ranking himself.
Okay, I see what you're saying.
No, that's not true.
But I've also found no evidence of him actually being a broadcast journalist, which I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say definitely he wasn't.
They just pulled everything down.
They took his damn... Clean slate, bro.
I don't want to say that it's gonna be shocking when we find out that this guy has been grifting Dennis Prager at PragerU or Steven Crowder here and we're gonna find out that... You think he's just Floridian?
No, I know he's Brazilian and his grandfather was a According to him, the president of Brazil.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's one way to look at it, I guess, huh?
Yeah.
It was just so difficult for me to legitimately fact-check anything that he's saying.
That's fine.
Well, that's because it's been censored, man.
Because you're just a victim, dude.
You're a victim, that's all.
Speaking of victims, one thing I was able to find, well, I know he's also friends with Trump, and that led to kind of an interesting situation.
This is from an article in The Independent from 2019, written by Shasta Darlington.
That's a great name.
Great name.
Brazilian dictator's grandson, who conceived Trump brand hotel, investigated for corruption.
More than 11 million in bribes were paid, says investigators.
That's interesting.
After work began on the Trump Hotel Rio de Janeiro, the businessman, Paulo Figueiredo, Mr. Figueredo, grandson of the last military dictator in the authoritarian government that ran Brazil from 1964 to 1985, displayed a picture of himself with Mr. Trump, Donald, himself at Trump Tower in New York, both men flashing a thumbs up sign.
Quote, he's one of the most recognized businessmen in the world and if anything
we're getting more exposure. Mr. Figueroa told the New York Times and this was in
2015, and so, okay, so 10 years, okay, that makes more sense.
I was like, that guy looked like he aged, like, 25 years.
Kinda, yeah.
But at the end of 2016, the Trump Organization pulled out of the project, and the golden letters with the Trump name were removed from the seaside building.
Now the Brazilian investors who backed the project are engulfed in a growing bribery scandal, and an international arrest warrant is expected to be issued for Mr. Figueiredo.
Federal police in Brazil this week arrested 13 entrepreneurs and bank executives charged with diverting public pension funds into two commercial projects including the former Trump Hotel in exchange for bribes and illegal commissions.
The other project was a sprawling office building.
Investigators did not implicate the Trump Organization in the scheme.
Thank God, honestly.
Thank God.
They got enough on their plate.
Yeah, dude.
Let's go.
I don't know.
overseeing the probe which they called Operation Circus Maximus.
Yeah, dude, let's go.
It said more than 40 million reales. I can't remember the currency in Brazil.
I don't know. I think that's right.
11 million dollars in bribes were paid.
The investments stood to affect hundreds of thousands of pension fund contributors.
And prosecutors said the bribes were frequently paid in cash,
but some were in kind, including VIP tickets to the Rock the Rio Mega concert
and free catering for a wedding party.
Why did you just read me this bullshit propaganda?
Honestly yeah I'm really sorry I did that and I know it has nothing to do what At all with why his passport would have been frozen.
Here's what it is.
Listen, he said.
Yeah.
Hey, maybe don't be so corrupt.
Okay.
And that's that dude.
He's fighting corruption.
I guess that makes sense.
That's it.
Easy, easy.
Has nothing to do with this stuff that happened in 2015.
Probably not.
You know, when he moved to the United States, probably fleeing a situation.
Yeah, right.
You know, the ramping up of an investigation.
Yeah, maybe he's a fugitive on the run.
Yeah.
Man on the run.
At least it does seem like his grandpa was the president.
Yeah, he's not lying about that.
Maybe.
Big maybe there.
It's hard.
It's like, it's kind of hard to understand what the fuck is going on here, but the 30th president of Brazil.
That's what they're saying.
So he's, he's just attached to it.
Like this, that, but that's also, uh, when would this be?
The 1979.
So that's when Bolsonaro was also a military general.
Sure.
Yeah, I mean this is just some like... That's the interesting thing is this person that they're blaming for all of these grand changes in censorship, he didn't come into power until 2019 after Apollo was already like living in the United States.
Yeah, for four years because he was on the run.
Well, I don't know if he was on the run.
Allegedly.
But I find that really weird that he gives a single shit about this, right?
Like, I mean, I guess he had his YouTube and his Twitter.
Yeah, but I mean like that was only like in the last four months.
Like, I think that that happened on December 30th.
Yeah, which is kind of interesting, because technically, I mean, is he a Brazilian citizen living in America?
I don't know what his status is, but... Yeah, I'd be curious.
They're complaining that Lula's government essentially is, like, flexing their... like, how they view speech, and they've removed his, you know, his bullshit off... his lies, essentially, is what they're saying.
The reason why Bolsonaro got so big was because of like the same reason why Trump got big was because of misinformation and basically just like it's really easy to attack minorities and you know put people against them or whatever.
No dude that's all real.
And Bolsonaro was, like, real good at, you know, burning that candle for those people.
Of course.
I'm trying to remember what city it was, but then, like, all of those people that were doing the fucking SIG heil when Bolsonaro lost.
Do you remember seeing that video?
I don't remember that, actually.
I mean, it was like, I don't know, thousands of people.
25,000 people.
I don't know.
It goes for blocks and blocks and blocks as people.
They're all seaguiling and they're singing like the Brazilian national anthem.
They're all there to support Bolsonaro and it's just this this is who you guys are rooting for.
It's very strange.
It's dirty water.
I don't like it.
Yeah, don't don't sip that.
Yeah.
Well, I cut most of this interview because somehow this guy doesn't really say anything.
Okay.
I did pull one clip for a very specific reason.
It's selfishly a Steven reason.
As you properly said, is is Batman banned in Brazil?
They decided to not comply to the rules I wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on that?
Because I know that obviously that's a significant portion of your business, how you make a living.
But I would imagine that on moral grounds, you're supportive of them, you know, rebelling against the Brazilian government.
But what's your overall feeling on that, that Brazilian fans can't watch you unless they maybe have a VPN?
Well, it hurt me tremendously, but I actually talked to them.
They were cautious enough to let me know what they were going to do, and I fully support it, because like Elon Musk said, principles are more important than profit.
And that was the basis, all this started when I tweeted to Elon Musk saying, well, you're saying all these rules are illegal, so why comply?
Locals and Rumble didn't.
And that's when he said he was going to lift all the sanctions in Brazil.
So I fully support it, although I think it's, of course, it hurts my business, right?
Yeah, and I'm sorry to hear that.
Hey, maybe there's a way that Mug Club and what you're doing, Mr. Figueredo, can pair up.
We can put a poll out there.
We probably could use some Brazilian-Portuguese people coming on over, giving them access to more content.
Here we go, boys.
Gotta get those listeners.
Steven's fishing.
I just realized, when this clip was playing, that not only did Steven be surprised he was in Florida, He didn't even know that he was living in Florida for almost 10 years.
No.
No.
He doesn't know anything about this guy yet.
He basically offered him a job.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Stephen's politics are so like, this is the Western audience that I need to speak to.
How can I like relate this to them?
It's just too mislead entirely.
South America is not America.
We have different policies.
Our laws are not the same.
We're just not the same country, but to have to sell that As an entirely different thing to his audiences.
I don't know, he's fascinating to me.
I think that Steven just doesn't know what he's talking about at all right now.
I think that's fair to say.
Good thing this is the last time we'll hear from him tonight.
I was a journalist on the mainstream media, okay?
I was on Primetime.
I used to have sometimes more viewers than Fox News on Primetime in the U.S.
I'm talking about millions of people watching every day on TV, regular cable TV, cable news TV.
The show that I was on was considered the number one political show in the country for a long time.
And one day on December 30th, 2022, so after Lula's election, I woke up with the order of cancellation of my Brazilian passport, which was unheard of.
The ban of all my social media in Brazil.
You can access my social media if you're not in Brazil or if you're using a VPN, not in Brazil.
My YouTube channel had like 1 million people, over 1 million people there.
My Twitter account, 1.4 million people, just to give you an idea, and all other platforms.
And one day I woke with everything blocked and plus all my assets in Brazil, all my assets and bank accounts were frozen.
Plus he issued a fine every time I stated any fake news, which I think, I believe I've never did in my life, but depends on what you think.
Right.
Fake news are.
So that's that's my relationship with him.
And I have been like that for a year and a half now.
I like how he totally understood the assignment, you know, pivoted to this is a job interview now.
I got millions of viewers, biggest TV show hosts in Brazil.
You name it, baby.
I can I can bring it to the club of Mug.
I'm fully open to being corrected on this.
I just don't understand the timeline of what we're working on here.
I'm also curious as to if they communicated to him, like, hey, listen, you can't return to Brazil because you'll be arrested immediately.
I just don't know what that looks like.
And I don't know if we have any extradition agreements with Brazil.
He had a show with more viewers than Fox News.
Which just doesn't make any sense.
Not at all.
And if it happened before 2019, then none of this is relevant.
Yeah.
Like, look at the room that he's doing this out of, though.
It has a very, like, kick streamer sort of atmosphere to it.
Oh, totally.
So, unless that's just what he's doing.
I, again, I'm fully open to being corrected.
It seems like his social media was affected in the last year or so.
Sure.
But I don't quite understand the timeline of him being a journalist on one of the largest network political shows in Brazil, which got more views than Fox News.
To when he came to the United States befriended Ivana Trump Fell into this massive scheme to build buildings also in Brazil in 2015 I just don't I don't like a Trump Tower I think what it shows is that Steven is having a hard time finding people who are on his same situation sure like he wants to have somebody who can be like a Hey look, see they're doing this not only to us, but all these other people too.
And he's having to go to some other country doing it to somebody else rather than focusing on what America has.
Because at the end of the day... Regardless of if it even is accurate.
Totally, yeah.
But at the end of the day, the US is where he lives.
That's where he can affect real change.
It just makes sense to focus here.
Unless it's like...
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, people might disagree with that, but that's how I feel about it.
I would focus on... You're an isolationist.
No, I'm not.
But I'm just saying, like... You're a globalist?
I am a globalist.
No, what I would say is this.
I would say, you know, if you have the ability to affect true change in your own country, that's the best way to go because you can affect that true change.
That's all I can handle this week.
That was a tough one, man.
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Oh nice, I do remember seeing one recently.
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Take a second, you know, push some stars on your phone.
Unfortunately on Spotify, you do have to listen to it a little bit before they let you.
Yeah, that is true.
I guess if you made it this far, it shouldn't be a problem.
This is from Hankin69.
Says this show is racist.
One star.
Oh shit.
These guys are racist.
Nice.
Yeah.
Are we the bad guys?
I'm not sure.
Now I'm all confused.
I'm all confused.
This is from Interpool Mike.
Also said one star the left can't podcast.
Went on to say it's supposed to be a podcast I guess.
Stay away.
Thanks so much.
Was that Mike?
Yeah, it was Interpol Mike.
Nice.
Mike, thank you so much, man.
Comments like that are the reason why we keep going.
We don't do it for us, we do it for that.
This is TeabagGinDragon.
TeabagGinDragon.
Yeah, also said, five stars, doing its job.
Whenever you see a one star review, remember it's from someone who willingly listens to Crowder and thinks he's a cool guy.
That sounds like someone I want to hang out with.
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, that's nice.
Also, I always forget to say this, join the unofficial Reddit.
Yeah.
Reddit.com slash r slash louder underscore than underscore.
Crowder.
We'd love to see what you guys have to say.
Unofficially of course.
Someone put the like a REO Speedwagon link up in there and then I was like oh because I think we made a reference to REO Speedwagon but then it had me thinking what if we had a little Spotify playlist going?
Okay.
Okay, and we put the Arios like just you know songs that get mentioned or played in the background like on this episode We got a Shania Twain feel.
Of course.
Yeah, there's always Reba.
Yeah, we had Reba.
That's true the other week and and then maybe we even put you know, they thought they thought Dolly Parton was Reba as well, you know, it's gonna be a hell of a mix.
Zag.
Wild.
If you real heads, real true ears, we'll tell you that 19-2000 from the Gorillaz played earlier in this episode when our friend was giving away all the CIA secrets.
Oh, interesting.
That was in the background there.
I did hear a song that caught my eye or caught my ear.
Find us on X at Van Crowder.
Louderwithcrowder.net.
Louderwithcrowder.net.
Yep.
And until next time, I'm Jared.
I'm Dennis.
And I'm Byron.
Take care.
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