This week we continue to attempt to connect with a new South American audience, while discussing foreign policy from an interesting perspective. One with selective context. But what would you expect? Also, new third chair guest! Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the My name's Byron.
I'm joined tonight, Occupy Texan, Jared.
Howdy!
And Dennis is here too.
Yes!
And tonight, we've got another global conflict.
Another one!
And another bad take about it on a comedy show?
We'll be discussing the April 15th, 2024 episode of Louder with Crowder, how Iran attacked Israel completely unprovoked.
There's protesters practicing protesting in a way that makes Stephen uncomfortable.
Then we shoehorn a little bit of Brazil talk to keep those new Portuguese viewers interested.
Let's Portugal.
It's Monday.
Of course.
And of course, Stephen is in pain.
pain.
Mmm.
Glad to be with you.
That's the I'm in pain sip, because... But friends, what ails him this week?
Oh, God.
Any guesses, Jared, Dennis?
Uh, grass.
Be quick.
He's got a big sneezy nose disease.
Pops Crowder back there.
Hey, I didn't see you this weekend.
Did you watch the fight?
Smacked my shoulder and It's like smacking a lobster.
So I got a little bit Got a little sunburn.
I'm the Texas Now I know a little bit too much Texas Sun and pops Crowder being a bit too excited to talk about UFC 300 I thought it was just blushing.
Nope full-body burn full-body blush.
Yes.
And Gerald remains a Makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about it. He's on
paternity leave paternity How much paternity leave do you think that they get at the
Crowder business? That's a great question I think it's just standard two weeks when do we want to
take it over under when's Jerry getting?
I wish I could trigger the who wants to be a millionaire music one more time. I
I have no idea.
But filling his shoes in second chair, Zach Fierstein.
Of course I'm joking, it's Josh.
Most of the roster must be busy or unwilling to appear.
Yeah, where have the Hodge twins been?
I don't know, yeah.
Their new studio's done.
Maybe they're big time in Steven after their RFK Jr.
interview.
I can't think of two other guys I'd rather see talk with RFK.
I want them to moderate a CNN debate.
Brian Callen must be, you know, going the way of the brewer, would be my guess.
What's that mean?
Slowly ghosting Steven into the point where he just is not.
I put out your new comedy special!
Jim Brewer?
You've been a part of this show for 28 episodes, right?
Yeah.
Were you on the Jim Brewer episode?
I think you have all these references of the ones I'm not on.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe it's true.
You pull out the deep cuts and make me look like a fool.
No, I won't leave that in, of course, but... I like it.
So we've got someone new.
And in third chair, his first time here in third chair.
You can watch him on X, and of course you can watch him live on Rumble every day.
5.30 Eastern, Jeremy the Quartering.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing well.
Really glad to be here.
Thanks for having me.
I feel comfortable over here.
You feel what?
I feel comfortable.
Oh, I thought you said uncomfortable.
That's usually the response.
Oh, well, that was before the show.
Now I'm comfortable.
Well, I know.
You relieved yourself.
As we all did.
Speaking of relieving himself, he's got a bit of a history with that.
First name Jeremy, last name TheQuartering.
Yes.
Well, it's actually Hambly, known as TheQuartering.
Hambly.
I can see why he changed it.
Yeah.
YouTube commentator.
What's this geeks music?
I couldn't figure it out.
Was that his music?
Or was it him playing music?
No, I imagine it's just a- Stephen's like, what's your- what's a good song?
The whole- I- I gotta say, I just think the whole playing the person on, that when you hear this, you know what that means, songs.
I don't love it.
No, especially not for a first-time guest.
They should do it before each time these guys talk.
Like, uh, Josh, when Josh... I almost called him Zach again.
I swear to God, like, it's so stuck in my head.
Every time that they talk, they should have to hit a button that's like...
Dun dun dun dun dun dun. Yeah. Anyway Steve Let me tell you about this Wizard of Oz joke
It is interesting because I mean it definitely has like some neutral Mel Cotel vibes. Is it Guster? It could be Guster
Jeremy the cornering YouTube commentator who gained prominence for his gaming and pop culture takes he was a big Gamergate
guy I forgot about Gamergate. Yeah, he does look it. He is it
lives it. Human cargo shorts a
Person to be really concerned about the idea of a black Superman or female Ghostbusters
Sure, yeah.
Or female anything.
Fair concerns.
You know, as he gained a following, his commentary shifted to discussions of social and political issues, edgy takes on, I don't know, race, sexuality, gender.
Well, I think that if you're an authority figure in that space, I think it's good to talk about.
Big fan of saying cuck, especially I found this video that got removed from YouTube for harassment It also got him removed from ever attending a Magic the Gathering event again.
Well This is very on-the-nose.
And Steven has this guy on for what reason?
Going into detail a little bit about this situation They got him removed from I guess the Wizards of the Coast produced tabletop gaming.
Yeah It's because he brought his waifu pillow in with him?
No.
And they were like, dude you can't, come on dude, you gotta go.
I guarantee there's more than just this.
That's allowed, yes.
On November 24th, 2017, cosplayer Christine Sprankle tweeted that she was unloading her Magic the Gathering costumes and cosplay gear in the wake of months of harassment.
Sprankle, who has been contracted by the Wizards of the Coast in the past, is considered to be one of the most popular cosplayers in the Magic scene.
She talked about her harassment that she suffered at the hands of Jeremy saying it's been a rough year and I've blocked and not said anything about him because I wanted it to die, but without a doubt MTG headquarters slash Unsleeved Media, which is his Magic the Gathering channel.
He has made my life hell.
This whole year with his unnecessary videos, tweets about me and other members of Magic.
In that deleted video, he was really gross talking about how she was asking for money on Patreon to support her cosplay career, which I feel like, I don't know, this was in 2017, maybe that was less common?
Seems fairly common now?
No, Patreon's been around for a long time.
I think so.
Also said that everyone that was supporting her was just trying to sleep with her.
I think someone might be projecting a bit.
Mmm, interesting.
That wasn't me, I was using Summon Doppelganger!
He's a gross guy, pretty much just a big piece of shit, who also, um, pees in his basement.
You never know.
Maybe I'm gonna pee in my trashcan down here, I don't know.
This is while he's streaming.
My wife went out for pizza without me, and I'm angry about it.
So I'm gonna win this round, and I'm gonna pee.
If I don't win this round, I'm gonna pee in my own basement.
I don't have a toilet down here.
All I have is a drain in the floor.
So he's got a landlord drain.
I feel like we're going to have to use it though.
I feel like we're going to have to use it.
Oh, I'm almost about to pee my pants.
I gotta pee so bad.
I gotta pee so bad.
I want to lose so I can pee, but I don't want to lose.
Oh my god.
I just peed in my basement.
No, not in the kitty litter.
Just, uh, in the drain.
In the drain.
Look, if you want to watch a streamer that wants to pee in the potty, go watch someone else.
But when you're a pro gamer like me... Yeah, I mean, if you're a dude that, if you want to watch a dude that's going to piss in the fucking overflow tank in his basement, that's who I am.
You know?
Welcome to third chair.
How many vodka, Red Bull, monster energy things is this guy drinking that he just can't, he can't go upstairs to take a piss in a toilet.
He's not used to it.
He was trying to get back at his wife because she went to pizza without him.
With someone else, yeah.
So I'm going to piss in the landlord hole, baby.
Was it with somebody else or was it just?
I think it was, yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, sorry to be petty about that.
I don't mean to just be married.
Summon legend, pee in the hole.
Wow.
Yeah, pretty cool guy.
Welcome to the show.
It's okay to be petty because it's definitely... Actually, I think this one's a legendary card called Mind Twist.
Mind Twist?
Yeah, because he's got a twisted mind.
He's also a Crowder mega-fan.
Check out these video titles and tell me if they paint a picture to you.
Steven Crowder hospitalized and Twitter celebrates it.
These people are vile.
Steven Crowder reveals YouTube bias and fights to save Louder With Crowder with epic lawsuit.
Things get way worse for Steven Crowder and they're coming for all of us after Louder With Crowder.
Very SEO to have both Steven Crowder and Louder With Crowder.
Yes.
Steven Crowder just shocked the world.
Louder With Crowder host pulls off the impossible.
Did he do this thing with your thumb where you go like this and he pulls off his thumb?
That is crazy.
You gotta quit doing that.
My mind is getting twisted.
Twisted mind, dude.
Uh oh.
Please clean slate.
Crowder drops dangerous bombshell report and things get weird immediately. I'm worried for him
Stephen Crowder deletes all social media and calls on everyone to make big change, please clean slate
He also is the same lawyer as Stephen half-asian Bill Richman who he hired after he was assaulted at Gen Con
Which is the largest tabletop gaming convention? He said And I don't think anyone should assault anyone.
No, of course not.
Someone bean dipped him, or...?
Well, they socked him and it caused him to have a bad time.
And on Twitter, he said, For those asking, yes, I already have a law firm on retainer,
half-Asian super lawyer Bill Richman, in parenthesis, Steven Crowder's lawyer.
If these clowns think I'm screwing around, perhaps a large war chest would change their mind.
I'm giving them until tomorrow to react and apologize.
This is such a weird post.
Dance for me.
A weird obsession with Stephen Crowder.
Well, that's the cool thing.
If you ride this hard for Stephen for five years, eventually you get to be on his podcast.
Apparently.
Wow.
Pretty cool.
He was going extra hard during the Jared Monroe drama, responding to a video of Tim Pooles saying, Why on earth did Jared insert himself?
Hillary is going to be rich.
Stephen will still be rich.
Jared left five years ago, lied about a lawsuit to crowdfund, violated an NDA he willingly signed, You can hate Crowder if you want, but Jared is screwed.
Did he have a thing for her?
Did he have a thing for her?
That's where the rumor of Jared being interested in Hillary came from.
Drama.
Unnecessary.
The quote not gay Jared lawsuit dropped today and in not one single place is there mention or evidence that Stephen has prevented him from working over the past six years.
We never saw the lawsuit.
It never actually came out.
I imagine that's part of what's going to be inside of the lawsuit.
Yeah, yeah.
That was the entire crux for him raising $100,000, right?
Because Crowder wouldn't let him work.
Now that $100,000 he raised, we'll go to some lawyer.
He has no chance to win this lawsuit.
If I could give him any advice, it would be to first pay taxes on your $100,000 and then use it to launch your own show, etc.
and move on.
He grifted $100,000 from people who hate Crowder or who, quote, believe all women.
And to be honest, impressive.
Go look at the lawsuit yourself, lol, it's hilarious.
Oh, by the way, remember he willingly signed the documents, so... Fun guy!
Welcome again.
Yes, he was a cool, reasonable, level-headed guy.
And I will say, spoiler alert, he came back for a second day, which was today's episode.
Oh, okay.
Sticking around, we'll see if we see more of Jeremy in the future, and if we do, you know that I'm gonna dig into more of this, but... Yeah, of course.
For now, Stephen is wondering something.
Question of the day.
We're going to be talking about this.
It's going to be long form here today, talking about Iran quite a bit.
How do you think President Trump should respond to the latest Iranian aggression?
Some people say former president, some people say sitting president.
I say sitting president.
Okay?
Okay.
Very cool.
I don't know if I care what Donald Trump says about Iran because he's not the president.
He's got like six weeks to hang out in court.
All he did do was repost his stern warning from 2018, just highlighting the take he had five years ago.
Pretty cool.
Such a cool take.
Time to start out with some light lying, if you can believe it.
Well, we're about to get to a union member here who coaches people to actually through, in translation, he's actually teaching people to be bilingually hateful, chant death to America, but it's time for a credit call.
Crowder called it.
What is it?
Crowder called it.
So basically he points to folks in Dearborn were chanting death to America last week.
Okay.
The reaction to that was fairly negative.
Sure.
Pretty universally booed and all of the members of the community came out against that.
Of course Crowder calls it, believes that this little get-together at a union facility in Chicago is just an expansion of this.
He's not telling the truth of course.
And I'm curious if this is ignorance or purposeful deception.
I imagine it's the latter.
Probably.
So I think this is what I said here last week and then we'll go to the new clip.
You have people on the right who have been accused of being anti-Semitic.
I have no idea how my pants got dirty.
They just came out of the wash.
first right they want to sort of divest from Israel because they don't believe
that America the United States should be entangled in foreign interests that's
their position and they're being accused of being anti-semitic the left of course
also hates Israel but for very different it's not America first they hate Israel
because they hate America all right I just realized my pants are dirt I have
no idea how my pants got dirty they just came out of the wash do you have that
with your pants yeah of course all the time sometimes you know Jerry
Go to work?
Like that?
No, that's foul.
What does he eat, you know?
What is it, barbecue sauce, Stephen?
What do you got on there?
Probably BBQ, dude.
Oh, BBQ?
He looks surprised by it, though.
He really caught his eye and he's like, oh no, I look... I would be quiet about it if I found some mystery something on my pants.
Yeah, that's embarrassing.
You're feet from the camera.
You'll be okay.
Oh no, my fly's undone.
I hope nobody notices.
Yeah, well... So that was what we said last week.
Now, a viral video has shown this union member training people how to chant Death to America and Death to Israel in Persian, which is not a pretty language.
So I'm going to teach you a chant in Persian that you can use if you ever encounter those Zionist freaks, whether they be Iranian or whatever, alright?
Now, I don't drink margaritas, but we all know what a margarita is.
Don't you love the virtue signaling before he chants for death?
He's doing it like a rapper.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
They're clapping.
I love how he says, thank you.
And he salutes.
He almost says, that's my time.
Wait, when I say try, you guys say harder.
Try!
Harder!
Try!
Harder!
Thank you.
That's like a rapper does, I guess.
So this was just a group of self-described anti-war activists in Chicago.
Pro-Palestinian folks.
He's supporting this, right?
Because he's very free speech?
Huh, it's weird that you'd say that.
Is he not?
I don't think so.
No, he definitely is.
I don't know if he loves this chant because, well, what's it mean?
I don't know.
It has two meanings, depending on who says it.
It can mean left to or down left.
Can we get a Maribar America?
We can get a Maribar America, yes we can.
Maribar America!
Maribar America!
The good news is he doesn't drink margaritas.
He probably should.
He's saying America wrong.
Yes, America!
Sounds drunk.
Yeah, he does.
He sounds like a terrorist to me.
I'm down with America, though.
Yeah, I'm down with America.
Down with America?
By the way, this was at the Teamsters Union HQ in Chicago, and that's one of the largest unions in the United States, so 1.3 million members.
They have truck drivers, they have warehouse workers.
They're one of the most influential unions as far as elections, too.
They may be.
However, this has nothing to do with them.
What are you doing over there?
It's catchy.
It does have kind of a sing-songy nature to it.
Yep.
And that's actually one of the reasons that it is such a popular chant.
Why the libs love it.
Maybe that's why.
We love Taylor Swift and all that, you know?
Pop music, catchy tunes.
And Persian, yeah.
The guy's right when he says it has two meanings.
Sure.
Death to and down with.
But even that definition of death to just means like a firm, enthusiastic wishing for the end of something.
So it could be like, motherfucker, come on, get Marg Bar the sickness?
Homework.
Right?
I guess.
That was a late night stretch, Dennis.
Wow.
Mark Barr homework.
Sure.
Yeah, that's what a Bart Simpson type would do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.
Because I mean, languages don't have literal like translations that make sense all the time.
Sure.
That makes sense to me.
Well, I mean, it's widely known that it doesn't directly mean that.
Well, I think here's how I feel about it, though.
Either of those phrases are allowed to be said here.
Unless it's a direct threat.
Yeah, if you're saying like, you know, America deserves to fall because America is bad.
You're allowed to say that.
Well, Supreme Leader of Iran, Khamenei, said that the slogan is interpreted as, I guess, in relation to marg barg or marika.
It would mean like down, death to U.S.' 's policies, death to arrogance is his quote.
Hey, let's all shit on the American attitude.
How everyone would say it.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he was specific, down with American leaders like Donald Trump or John Bolton.
Oh, you mean that war hawk, John Bolton, that war criminal?
Yeah, that's the one.
Just like people like that who are like supremely unagreeable.
Jumping back though to them framing this as if it is... Teamsters.
Teamsters.
Union leaders, pro-Palestinian, and one death to America.
Yeah, that's what Union is all about, dude.
It has nothing to do with that, but you know, that's never stopped Steven.
And of course, he's gonna ask a question of his audience.
Rarely leading, super ignorant, and definitely inciting.
Again, my question is, at what point does it become treason?
Like, if you're talking about people, you want to charge them with sedition for going on a walking tour January 6th.
People here chanting, death to Israel, death to America.
It seems to me, and I'm not saying if you don't like America you should get the hell out, but in this case I kind of am because you're shouting death to us.
Just do some research and Dennis I heard your eyes rolling around in your head during that walking tour comment.
Love that.
Super fun.
Nobody died there.
Except for Ashley Babbitt.
Yeah, but she was one of the good ones, man.
She didn't deserve it.
She was murdered.
I'll just say this broadly.
I don't want death to America.
I don't think that these people chanting this want truly death to America.
I think what these people are saying in, you know, a simple phrase is they're just saying that America has serious problems that are really fucking up a lot of the world.
Yeah.
And they want that to stop them.
They want America to get rid of their shitty arrogant attitude.
I also I mean like our occupations and stuff like that it's like get the fuck out of here at a point you know that's like how most people are feeling about that kind of thing.
And also say our arrogant attitudes because it's an American thing.
It's a problem.
Yeah it's like America reminds me of like the 20 year old who's like yeah I'm grown up I'm grown.
Yeah I have a pretty decent bank account.
Yeah.
What does jingoism mean?
Why would you say that to me?
I'm being jingoistic?
Okay, buddy.
We're just young.
We're young and kinda dumb.
Don't say it.
Remember that Paulo Figueiredo talk we had last week?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so they ended up- Hey, can I offer a correction to myself for last week?
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
I said Mitt Romney, EPA.
No, sorry, Rick Perry, EPA.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I thought about that all night after that, and then I was gonna mention it, and then I just totally forgot.
But anyway, sorry.
You woke up in the middle of the night, and you go, It was fuckin' Rick Perry!
I live here!
He was here!
They firebombed his house!
They're kind of the same white guy.
You know that, right?
They are.
They're very similar dudes.
If I saw them both, I'd have to think for a second about which is which.
Yeah.
Before you got their autograph.
Before I got them to sign my war documents.
Which one said their favorite meat was hot dog?
Oh, fuck.
I forgot about Mitt.
That was great.
Okay, yes, it was Mitt, yeah.
Yeah, that would be like a, like he could run on that phrase now.
They ended up republishing that Thursday episode with Portuguese subtitles.
Did you see that?
They did.
I'd be willing to bet that they ran it through an AI translator.
Or paid someone to do it, but probably poorly.
So we gotta keep those... I gotta take my shirt off.
I'm so sweaty from earlier.
I'm just gonna throw this in there.
Take it off, dude.
Dear listener, I'm going shirtless for the rest of this.
It's okay, man.
It's fine.
I just had to take the headphones off so I can't hear you.
Felt bad.
Mark, about to say it, kiss your mother fucker.
Oh, Mark.
Mark, about to say it, miss.
We gotta keep those new Brazilian folks interested.
Here's someone who does know what it's like to be in the third world, Brazil.
Now, I'm not saying that the entire country is a third world country, but a good portion of it is.
Now, after his win here at UFC 300, every now and then there's sort of a cultural moment that kind of transcends what we may discuss here.
This is a Brazilian fighter, his name is Renato Moicano, I hope I'm saying that correctly, I'm probably not, and he didn't, you know, you'll get people who They go up and they thank God, or they'll thank their Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, which is great.
You'll get sometimes people go up and say, hey, I love America.
This guy decided to, with his victory speech, go into, on a micro level, economics.
Basically, supply-side economics.
Here you go.
First of all, I love America.
I love the Constitution.
I love the First Amendment.
I want to carry an arm, f***ing God.
I love property.
And let me tell you something.
If you care about your f***ing country, read Ludwig von Mises and the Six Lessons of the Austrian Economic School, motherf***ers.
Boy, there's one guy in that crowd.
He had read the book.
He's like, yeah!
Yes! Yes!
You've seen it!
Austrian economics!
Tell them about...
Now I don't know too much about Austrian economics.
Yeah, I can add this to it.
Is that what he's referring to is like old world economics?
It's like 1800s.
You guys know who was famous for a lot of economic policies back in the late 30s and 40s, yeah?
Ludwig von Mises started writing about economics in 1912.
And I'm not saying that we should discount all things that come from that.
This has nothing to do with, like, modern politics or from this country.
You know what I mean?
Did he have anything else to say after that?
Von Mises?
Or this UFC fighter?
He has a lot.
It's really good.
I think I have that cliff.
If not, we'll talk about it.
What does Stephen have to say about it?
He says a lot.
We all know Stephen's nickname.
The Earl of Accents.
The Big Ugly, I thought.
The Big Ugly, yeah.
It's also the Man of a Million Voices.
Hey, read Friedman or Keynes, not Hayek.
Only Keynes or Friedman or Locke.
Locke is very good.
I have twelve rules for life.
Georgian, pitch aside.
I fight for you.
You say voodoo economics.
No voodoo economics.
It's supply side economics.
I punch in your face.
He really went in.
And by the way, for those of you who don't know, it's a good recommendation.
He must not be paying them enough, because they are not laughing.
Yeah, no.
The room is not eating them.
They are not.
And was that supposed to be that guy's accent?
Because it wasn't even close.
He's trying to do Brazilian.
It sounded like he was doing, like, a Russian.
Yeah.
And an Eastern European.
Pretty bad.
By a man of a million accents, he means all of them combined at once.
All at once.
Hinato Morikano really likes culture.
He loves America, the Constitution, the First Amendment.
He wants to carry his own fucking guns.
Loves private property.
Classic Bolsonarista, if you will.
I mean it really just talks about economics, free enterprise, you know how the government intervention creates red tape.
It's economic policy, thoughts for today and tomorrow is what you can read there.
It's popular with libertarians.
Ron Paul is a counselor of the Mises Institute.
Cool guys.
Pretty big deal, the book.
Pretty big deal for UFC fighter to talk about this.
Not to be confused with OJ Simpson's upcoming book, Six Ways I Would Have Done It, to be released posthumously, of course.
I guess this is better than that homophobe Sean Strickland or that other weirdo who called Jimmy Kimmel a pedophile.
Remember that?
Yeah.
He also went on to say that he was starting a podcast.
Oh, shit.
Do you think we can get him on?
Well, maybe.
Great minds.
He seemed to come up with the name of the podcast in the moment.
How awesome was it?
Show Me The Money.
Great name for a podcast.
What is it?
Is it a quiz show?
Steven really likes that one, though.
Is it like a show that you tune into to find your Indiegogos you gotta fund?
No idea, because it doesn't exist, but then he's also said that Joe Rogan was gonna be a guest on the show.
First guest.
First guest.
Episode 100, first guest, Joe Rogan.
It's not gonna happen, it wouldn't happen, and if it did it would be bad.
Yes.
Cool.
Thanks, Steven.
I hope you keep the interest of those Portuguese speaking.
Dude, get that viewership up.
I have a feeling that negotiations fell apart with Paulo.
Yeah, maybe they realize he's been living in Florida.
He's also a full-blown liar.
I hope that he found out that him and Steven were like neighbors and they just never talked.
Oh, that'd be kind of cool.
I thought your name was Dave.
Time to get into kind of a scary situation discussed by the last people that I want to hear speak about it.
I guess I should also say I don't know much about foreign policy.
I don't jack shit about it.
I'm gonna do my best to navigate this whole situation.
Don't worry, boys, I'll get us through it.
Thanks, dude.
Yeah, I'm a bit of a maverick with this shit.
First, you know, Saturday launched this massive attack on Israel.
That's the first fact.
You know, 170 explosive drones.
They're known as like the AK-47 of Iran, which I don't really care about, but that's a thing.
120 ballistic missiles, 30 cruise missiles, and according to Israeli officials, 99% of them were intercepted.
The AK-47 of drones and he doesn't care about it?
Yeah, I think he'd love that.
I think he's lying.
Also, it just goes to show that we will use anything but the metric system.
Great point, yeah.
Yeah, I guess let's get into the specifics of these missiles, some missile discourse.
Yeah.
50% of the ballistic missiles actually even failed to launch or they crashed on the way there.
And when you see where Iran bought their munitions, it's obvious why they have such a high rate of failure.
Ah, that explains it.
That and Teemu, I think.
Yes!
Isn't that... Jap... Jap... No, what is that song?
That song is, uh, Turning Japanese.
Turning Japanese?
Turning Japanese.
Interesting.
Yeah.
But it's, um... Yeah, I think I'm turning Japanese.
I think I'm turning Japanese.
I think I'm turning Japanese.
They can't even get their racism right?
What the fuck is that?
That was stupid.
They just did, like, Pan-Asian sound.
Did they mean to say China?
They should have just done a gong.
You know?
I hate to admit that I'm a better racist than they are.
They could have done so many other things.
I love accidentally wrong racism.
That's really something I've never experienced before.
There was a post going around of some guy telling a bunch of Native Americans to go back to their country.
That's basically this happening to a guy who makes millions of dollars doing this for a living.
Damn.
And he can't even get it right.
Do you want to hear something fucked up?
Yeah.
Alright, hang on.
Let me, uh...
Is it related?
Okay, so this is actually called the Oriental Rift.
The Oriental Rift, also known as the East Asian Rift, and the Chinaman Lick, Jesus Christ, is a musical rift or phrase that has often been used in Western culture as a trope to represent the idea of East or Southeast Asia.
The rift is sometimes accompanied by the sound of a gong at the end.
Oh my god.
The history.
The Oriental Riff is a Western creation.
The first known example of a precursor showing similar rhythm, if not yet melody, is the Aladdin Quickstep composed around 1847 and used in an Aladdin stage show named the Grand Chinese Spectacle of Aladdin.
Or The Wonderful Lamp.
Later related tunes included Mama's Chinese Twins, a parenthesis called Oriental Lullaby from 1900.
In the 1930s, a couple of cartoons used a version of the tune specifically to accompany animated stereotypes of East Asians.
Wow.
Okay.
So there's a deep history of that sting.
Yeah.
So it's not that Stephen is bad at being racist.
He's too good at being racist.
He's right on the nose.
He is historically racist.
Wow.
Old school racist.
That's wooden teeth racism right there.
Wow.
But yeah, why on earth did Iran send hundreds of drones and missiles to Israel?
I don't know.
So why did Iran do this?
And I think it's important because what's going to happen is if you say that Israel has a right to defend itself, the left or people who are, I guess, supporters of Iran.
I guess those people still exist, apparently.
Not people in Iran, just to be clear.
The people of Iran hate their government.
They want to wear bikinis again.
I'd love him to do that, too.
It would be nice.
Oh man, it was a good time.
I wasn't alive for it, but it was a good time.
Persian women, Jasmine was based on a real person.
She's a babe!
A real baby.
A real child.
About 15.
How old is Jasmine?
15 years old, Jasmine was.
He keeps sneaking this in.
This is maybe the third time he's snuck this in and we finally did a little slizzen, dear listener.
What did we find?
We found that Jasmine, she's 15.
She's 15 freaking years old.
Tunophilia.
Sexually attracted to cartoons.
Nice.
Did you know?
You guys don't want to see my Google, you know, Peter Griffin sex Marge Simpson.
Nice, dude.
Rule 34, baby.
Yuck, boys.
Is there a term for teenage, teenage tunes?
I don't want to talk about it.
Okay.
But yeah, what's, why?
Really?
So why did this happen though?
It does matter because Iran will claim, well actually this was not an offensive, this was a retaliatory action.
They would claim that it was in response to Israel destroying the Iranian consulate in Damascus, Syria.
That's their claim.
Iran is pledging revenge tonight, accusing Israel of attacking its embassy complex in Syria and reportedly killing at least seven Iranian military officials.
That includes a top general.
So I don't need to be defending Iran, but just because Western media doesn't report a name doesn't mean that the general wasn't significant, right?
Of course, but also think about Benghazi and about how much the US cared about Benghazi when four Americans died, right?
Sure.
Just think about how much we cared about that.
Being in the shoes of Iran when a drone and missile hits the consulate?
Yeah, and again, I want to be very clear.
I don't know much about foreign policy, but I do know that you can't just like shit on the lives of seven citizens and be like, eh, was it really worth the retaliating?
Well, you can't do that and expect to not be hit back.
I would assume something like that, but I don't know about war, man.
I don't know the best strategies for war.
The consulate is sovereign, so it's like whatever state is there in that land, that's technically that country's land inside that country.
That's how it works.
So they have to defend themselves, like they can't just let people do that and then not retaliate because it's, I don't know, it's just, that's not how war works, baby.
It was April 1st, not a good day to do that.
Airstrike on the consulate building and it killed 13 people.
Yeah, that's substantial.
Including the general, which I mean... I don't really know if we're saying like top general.
Yeah, he doesn't even have a name.
No.
So how top is he?
Yeah, I'm not that, I can't be... I think he's a bottom general to be honest.
Yeah, that's what I think.
He's a power bottom general.
Yes, powerful.
Powerful man from Iran.
Yes, powerful bottom.
No one is better.
But when it comes to power bottom, I'm tops.
Okay, that's fine.
That's all bullshit.
And this is the USC guy that he's doing again right here?
Nope, this is another accent.
You've got to listen closer because he's of course the Earl of Accents.
Brig General Mohammed Reza Zahedi.
His name has been everywhere and very easily found on all the articles that I've read.
Maybe it's just because it's like BBC and they don't like that.
Yeah, maybe.
Commander of Israel's Islamic Revolutionary Guard.
Seems like not a great guy.
Key Iranian military official in charge of relations with Hezbollah.
Whatever, but the riff on the power bottom... Well, it's just... When he was making those dumb fucking jokes, you could tell the other people are like, we don't need to be doing this.
No.
This is stupid.
And they already probably did it this morning and run through and they're like, oh, this is not gonna land.
It stinks.
Yeah, but what does our friend Jeremy the Quartering have to say about it?
This happens a lot where there's like everybody has to save face and then you know it's two weeks later.
I'm more inclined to believe that this was...
Alright, we'll give you 200, but not more.
You can fire 200 missiles, a bunch of them have to be crappy and fail, but then you can tell your people that you got them.
Yeah, you got them.
Do we have the clip here?
I know we had a clip of them, of Biden saying that there would be no retaliatory action.
I don't know if we still have that, if you guys can grab it for me.
Did I miss it?
I don't think that I did miss it.
There's a clip of him saying, don't.
No, that's a different one.
The don't clip, we're saving that for later.
Are you trying to tell me that military governments try to posture?
No.
You know, little heel kicking, little rock throwing.
I don't know if I trust the quarterings interpretation of what communication between enemy countries.
Of course.
I still see this all the time that it's minimizing the perspective of the people who are doing the attacking.
I get that you might think that those lives were not worth it to you, but there's still lives of people that are worth it to the country of whom they belong to.
To think that they had some sort of discussion about, like, hey, you can shoot, like, 200 missiles at us, but that's it.
Yeah, and who's having this conversation?
Well, all the generals are dead, so... Like, do they think they asked the supervisor of the Deep State?
Yeah, the Ayatollah is just like looking up from... This is from the quartering perspective.
He's behind his big DM curtain.
He's like, okay, roll for advancement.
I gotta say, we cannot shame anyone who plays tabletop games.
If you were to work on the most negative stereotype of a person like that, it is the quartering.
No, I'm cool with it.
You know, D&D, that's cool.
But you know it's not cool.
So this brings us to kind of where we are and why you see the instability in Iran.
Let's do a new installment of Then and Now.
Oh.
Then and Now is my least favorite segment that he does.
It's always the longest and it's always kind of the same thing.
I like it the most because they got Paid on Delivery aka P.O.D.
to do that little theme song for it.
Make me feel good, make me feel like the youth of the nation.
Yeah, it's got the energy of an entire... Is that really a P.O.D.
track?
No!
It sounded very much like them.
No, it wasn't.
Pretty cool.
Time to break this situation down president by president.
Okay, let's compare Donald Trump-Biden.
We'll throw in Barack Obama into this mix.
May 2018, then-President Trump pulled out of the Joint Comprehension Plan of Action, JCPOA for short, or just call it the Iran Deal.
There's no good acronym for it.
And he reimposed some very heavy sanctions on Iran.
The Iranian economy suffered $1 trillion in damages.
So you may not like former president Trump, if you say that.
Sorry, some people say former president, some people say sitting president.
I say sitting president.
I say sitting president.
So he's the one that's in charge of, you know, all these problems that we're going through.
Exactly.
That's what sitting president is responsible for.
Sitting president is responsible for the economy.
We'll give him the stock market, I guess.
That's looking pretty good.
Sure.
Remember when Trump pulled out of the Iran deal?
You know, I wish I remembered more, but foreign policy is so complicated to me.
And I think that for so many people, they approach foreign policy from this perspective, like their own moral compass, and it is different a bit from place to place.
Yeah, but you know, my view is like the right one.
Oh, she told me that before.
I'm American, and so everything has to go through that lens, and if you don't go through that lens, I'm gonna criticize you and I'm gonna do a funny voice for you.
Yeah, you know, so maybe maybe wise up come to America see from my side You know, I'm Steven Crowder vote for me and I approve this message JCPOA the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.
It was an international agreement reached in 2015 between Iran and What they call the p5 plus one group of world powers, which is the US UK France China Russia and Germany It was facilitated by the European Union, but it was Put in place to limit Iran's nuclear program in exchange for lifting some of the economic sanctions that were imposed by the international community before that.
So if you don't enrich uranium, we'll let you be part of the global community.
It's classic, you know, you tell the bully, hey, listen, if you set me on such a dick, we'll let you hang out with the kids.
And sometimes that works.
I'm sure it's far more complicated than that, but I know that it was something that Trump could not fucking wait to pull out of in 2018.
People didn't love it, and Iran really didn't like it.
It turned up the heat, kind of destabilized that whole region.
And in turn there started to be like takedowns of drones, ramping up of attacks, and eventually eventually a US contractor was killed.
Okay.
And you know Trump got ticked off about that and ended up killing like 50 people.
I mean like carpet bombed that like military base.
Was that the Mother of All Bombs one?
It was when he commented about that.
Yeah.
But let's compare that to now.
Biden removed the Trump-era sanctions on Iran.
You have an October 2023.
They unlocked, they unfroze $6 billion in Iranian oil revenue.
I don't know why you unfreeze any money to the largest funder of terrorism globally.
Maybe you can comment below as to why that is the case.
I know some people say, well, we can't be the world police.
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
If you are funding terrorism on a global scale more than anybody else, I think that warrants us saying, yeah, we're not going to give you your six billion dollars back on account that you keep funding terrorism.
That's a lot of faulty missiles they can buy.
Yes, exactly.
It's a lot of shitty short-range firecrackers.
I thought you were going to say something, Josh.
Yeah, I lost it.
Poor Josh.
They actually can't use that money to buy more faulty missiles.
The money that was unfrozen that they always say is going to terrorism is explicitly going to be used for humanitarian needs.
Funds for that account are overseen by the Treasury Department.
Food, medicine, medical equipment, and will never touch Iranian hands.
Okay.
Sometimes Josh is so dumb that he sounds smart.
Oh, so they got that money then?
Iran has the money.
It's in their hands?
Yeah, it's been unfrozen.
It's in process.
The wheels are in motion.
Check's in the mail.
No, it's not.
And stop talking, Josh.
You're making this difficult for everyone to lie about.
I don't know if you remember this, but back in 2016, the Obama administration, this was the big deal, right?
They sent $1.7 billion as part of the Iran deal, including $400 million in cash.
I don't know if the rest was by check.
EBT.
Why send them anything?
I think it was because it was their money.
I don't know enough about it.
The 1.7 billion was to settle a case related to the sale of military equipment prior to the Iranian Revolution.
They had a foreign... Like gold money.
Yeah, yeah.
There was a $400 million trust fund for purchases of military equipment that was frozen along with diplomatic relations in 1979.
And this was kind of settling that.
In settling the claim, which had been tied up at the Hague Tribunal since 1881, the U.S.
is returning the money in the fund along with a roughly $1.3 billion compromise on the interest.
So we took their money and kept it for a very long time and as part of the Iran deal we gave it back.
Well, I think also a lot of people they don't they think about when we talk about money between countries that it's like just cash that it's not like assets or weapons or anything else.
It's different.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was cash.
I'm sure there were some but I'm sure that it was also different in a lot of ways as well.
Yeah.
When you hear about, you know, Elon Musk being the richest man or whatever.
Well, not in cash.
It's not all cash.
It's paper.
Exactly.
It's stuff.
It's ideas.
Big ideas.
But yeah, I think it's disingenuous to make statements like these.
Your audience is smart enough, Steven, to understand this.
And they can disagree with settling these debts.
Yeah.
And unfreezing this money.
But to lie to them is kind of shitty.
Then, July 2018.
The situation was escalating with Iran.
What did Trump do, President Trump?
He issued this very specific threat to the Iranian president.
He said, and this is from, I guess I have to take a sip here.
The Iranian President Rouhani, he put this out, he said, Never ever threaten the United States again or you will suffer the consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before.
We are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death.
Be cautious!
Cuidado!
Be cautious!
That's how he ends it, like ends it with that.
Stable genius, stable world.
That's, that's how you keep us all safe is by, you know, verbally threatening and attempting to intimidate another country.
A lot of people, they think about it like you don't have, like the only option is policing the world or not policing the world, but we have to recognize that our relationships with other countries, there's a lot of moving parts in those things.
It's not just like we can just stay out of it and act like nothing.
I think you can be strong and light.
Of course you can, absolutely you can.
I think that's what I'd prefer.
Yeah.
December 2019 to January 2020.
This was, I don't know if you remember this, the Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah, right?
They killed, Hezbollah killed an American contractor, Iran-backed militias who stormed the United States Embassy in Baghdad.
In response to that, President Trump authorized the killing of the Iranian general Soleimani.
You may not remember he was an Iranian general because no one really cares about their title, but Soleimani, you remember that name, January 2020.
What does that even mean?
Last night of my direction, the United States military successfully executed a flawless precision strike that killed the number one terrorist anywhere in the world, Qasem Soleimani.
We took action last night to stop God, I miss him.
I know.
We did not take action to start a war.
God, I miss him.
So cool.
Five Iraqi nationals and four other Iranian nationals were killed alongside Soleimani.
I think I remember them saying that a janitor died.
Oh, as well.
Yeah.
So it's interesting the parallels of Well, no, I think that's not that interesting.
I was gonna see the parallels of this action that Israel did versus what we did, you know?
Yeah, well, this just proves that we understand that retaliatory strikes are something that happens.
Yeah.
It's fine if we do, but not if they do it.
And I would say that, generally, the less violence, the better, obviously.
But you can't be like, well, we defended ourselves, and you guys can't do the same.
Yeah, it's weird.
Yeah.
This brings us to now!
Biden allowed the UN sanctions on Iranian drones and missiles to expire.
It's almost like there's a direct consequence to that.
April 12th, Biden issued this compared to that threat you saw from Donald Trump.
A very harshly worded letter to Iran about Israel.
Mr. President, what is your message to Iran in this moment?
Don't.
Yeah.
What a loser!
Don't!
You remember the don't speech.
I don't.
I think he said it a couple more times.
Yeah, just don't.
I'm sure he said other things.
What's strange to me about it is how they feel like the way that Trump spoke was so much different than the way that Biden spoke.
Trump just sounded like a buffoon talking about it.
A loud guy.
Yeah.
But it's so funny.
You remember the State of the Union this year when they said that Joe Biden sounded angry?
Yeah.
As if that was a negative thing?
Of course.
They praise Trump when he shouts and yells, he died like a dog!
It's fucked up and it's inconsistent, but I guess it's not unexpected.
It's exactly what I would expect, yeah.
I hate policy thick ones.
I wish we could be dumb like Steven and make generalizations, simplifications.
Yeah, just say some stupid shit.
What do you guys feel about the Middle East?
Should we bomb it to shit?
That would help with my painful insecurity.
That makes my fucking nipples super hard.
Let's throw it to the third chair.
So just because the UN let those missile sanctions on Iran expire doesn't mean that they stopped their commitment to countering the acquiring and expanding of Iran's military.
Yeah.
It was still definitely on their mind.
It could have been that their state had a different strategy.
Yeah, it was their imperative for states to counter Iran's destabilizing ballistic missile-related activities, and they committed to, quote, take all necessary measures to prevent the supply, sale, or transfer of ballistic missile-related items.
Still beyond that.
A little bit more simplification for his dumb-dumb audience.
Well, and also, I mean, we're the dumb-dumb audience, too.
You know what I mean?
Like, we don't know what the fuck we're talking about, but Stephen just needs to be more honest in what he's discussing.
But then Stephen makes this domestically political.
Yeah, how do we bring this back to...
Bring him back home, baby.
To the place he ain't from, baby.
The way past.
Successful?
You're bad.
It's this automatic rooting for the underdog, even if the underdog is evil.
That's why I do think it's important to keep in mind, Israel has a right to defend itself based on the proportionality of the attack.
Not on the effectiveness of the attack, because they have good defenses.
I do think that's a valid point.
I don't necessarily know how effective this attack was, especially considering they gave this very long warning.
Seems like a lot of posturing.
Seems like a lot of saber-rattling.
I'm sure it doesn't matter if Israel takes any action after today, someone's going to call for a ceasefire.
You can't just launch, this is my point, 200 plus explosives and then just say,
ah, even Stevens, cease fire without retaliation.
Remember episode one?
Uh huh.
Oh my god.
you This is the Obi-Wan fight against Darth Maul.
Darth Maul!
Use the force, Obi-Wan.
Oh, who's this?
Cease fire, guys!
Cease fire!
The force runs through us all!
Cease fire!
It's one of those bullshit Lucas cuts.
Nice.
Always with the re-edit.
Won't stop.
I just hate that Stephen simplifies this so much.
He acts like it's a bar fight and like the little guy punched the big guy and the big guy like smashed the little guy's head in.
And now the little guy's mad about that?
And now the little guy has a right to be more mad because he smashed his head so hard.
Yeah, fully ignoring the fact that they attacked a consulate.
Yeah.
To what benefit is it to be this much on the side of Israel over something like this where it's like, why?
Here's what I think.
I think that Stephen is just, he knows his base loves Israel so much, so he's going that route.
But maybe just don't talk about it.
I think most Americans, I mean there's plenty of Americans who care a lot obviously about what's going on, but I think that most Americans don't feel as passionately about Israel as Stephen's viewers do.
And I think that the support is, even now, is like waning because of these seemingly chaotic and irrational choices.
Totally, yeah.
Like the leadership.
You know, like bombing of hospitals and shit in Gaza, like all that stuff.
Horrifying.
Awful.
Genocidal.
And then to try to draw in, and I know even Biden thinks this, he's aware that it seems like they're trying to draw the United States into a larger conflict with Iran.
Sure.
He's said so.
Yeah.
If it gets crazy, then more people get involved and we don't want that.
They talk a little bit about how Biden's wrong for signaling that he does not have any interest in that.
But before we get there, we've got to wrap up this whole Star Wars arc.
Oh, yeah.
By the way... That guy was cut in half right after that.
Yes, he was.
Was it by his own retarded two-sided lightsaber?
Everyone thought, wow, that's cool.
Have you ever seen someone who actually works with a bo-staff?
They have to use their body as a brace for half the strikes.
He would just immediately 360 that like a helicopter blade dead.
You're a hater, dude.
It was cool.
Uh, I am a hater.
It was cool.
It was so cool.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
All the air left that room when that fucking Bo Staff dork opened his mouth.
Shut up, Steven.
You guys know it's not how it works.
They were like, what the fuck's a Bo Staff?
Who cares how it works?
It's a red double-sided lightsaber.
And it was badass.
It was cool.
This guy's got, like, cool face paint on.
Darth Maul was the first time that I ever experienced when, like, the general public rooted for the villain.
Yeah, he's cool.
Because they were like, this guy's got some cool fucking paint on his face.
Of course Steven would be anti-Darth Maul.
Of course he would be.
I mean, the only fight I almost have gotten into in my life What comes to mind is when you and I were at the talent show and those Bo Staff boys didn't like that we were playing so loud.
They hated it.
We almost got in a fight.
With Bo Staff kids.
And if it was a lightsaber, they'd be fucking dead before we even got to them.
So they're definitely a type of guy.
It seems like it, yeah.
I know a couple Bo Staff guys, if you know what I mean.
But of course we're not done talking about Star Wars.
Star Wars, let's go!
Start Wars.
They had, like, all these stereotypical, like, the, uh, Trade Federation people.
They were fish.
Yeah.
And they had Japanese accents.
Yeah, Japanese accents.
Like, they were walking sushi.
It was... It was... What's up, dude?
It was bizarre.
This is not how we defend the republic.
That's exactly how they sound.
You say you don't like Star Wars, but you nailed it.
I don't like Star Wars, but I also have intense dislike for the Japanese people.
Aha!
Weird.
All right, guys.
I'll watch it.
All right!
Racism, stereotypes.
Yeah.
All right.
You've struck oil.
Natalie Portman.
She was a bad actor back then.
She was a bad actor always.
I don't care that she played an angry hobag in Black Swan.
Whatever it was.
Was she a lesbian in Black Swan?
She's a lesbian, right?
Great question.
Necessary question.
Also, how old was she?
Yeah, Natalie Portman.
Big pivot.
She was like 16 in Star Wars?
I think she was 16 when she started shooting episode 1.
Hmm.
Yeah, when was it, 97 or something like that?
Schwing!
Schwing.
Wow.
Yeah, big pivot though to, uh, wasn't she a lesbian in that, like, uh, black swan?
A whole bag and a lesbian.
I hope that there's not another podcast to point out the ages of all the women I'm blusting after.
And I shouldn't say women, I should say girls.
Girls, Jasmine, Natalie Portman.
Yeah, it's fucking gross, Steven.
What was the weird Japanese comment?
Oh, and I think he's kind of right about that.
I think that episode one is fairly racist.
The whole Jar Jar Binks character... Don't say anything about Watto, okay?
Because that's... I think... No, no, no.
Am I wrong that the pod racing guy is a bit of a Jewish stereotype?
He's cool.
Cool.
He's cool.
He seems like a Jewish stereotype to me.
Oh, oh, Watto, the floating guy who... He's cool.
...did the trade.
Is he cool, Jared?
You're Jewish.
Slave, junkyard.
I mean, he's like, I don't, he's learning a trade.
He's like the Jews love the trades.
Right.
That's like, that's, that's why they run Hollywood.
And then there is the fish people who do speak like Japanese.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't they?
Why would the fish aliens?
Why would the aliens not have different accents from different countries?
But I think it was written in a stereotypical way they could make up their own accents.
How so?
What do you mean?
How do the fish people have anything to do with Japan?
That's what I'm saying.
I think that the through line, the more direct line... No, drawing in the accent I think is way, way... I think he's reaching really hard to try and make it sound racist.
Sure.
There might be racial overtones in the show for sure.
But you cannot have tons of different countries and then expect them to all have the same accent.
No, I completely agree.
I just, I mean, I do think that there's Jewish stereotypes and there's like... Sure.
The Jar Jar Binks thing is pretty offensive.
He's in a boo.
The movie is horrifically racist.
I don't... I'm sure that it probably is.
I just think that tying the fish to the Japanese doesn't seem racist at all to me.
Let's check their accents real quick.
Oh, do you have them?
No.
But there is a Star Wars 1978 Japanese tuna fish ad, so maybe that's where we want to go with this instead.
In the 70s, huh?
Yeah.
So, this brings us to the United States' involvement.
Oh, this is, you know what, right here.
I see it now in the rundown, the clip.
Former Vice President Biden told Netanyahu that the U.S.
will not support, in no uncertain terms, any type of a response.
The president met with his national security team in the situation room for roughly two hours
Saturday before a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in which
a senior administration official tells NBC News the president reaffirmed his commitment to Israel's
security while making clear the U.S. will not participate in its response to Iran.
Why make that clear? Make it as murky as possible.
Keep them on their toes.
That's all Donald Trump really did.
His skill was just kept you guessing.
He was just flicking that jab out like, I don't think I'm going to do anything.
No look jab, Syria.
Oh, what happened?
I have no idea.
Your nose looks bad.
Iran, I'm watching you.
I have eyes in the back of my head.
Iraq, you're not very effective anymore.
Hamas!
Just saying your name to make sure you're paying attention.
I don't plan on doing anything.
But plans change.
Life changes.
Comes at you fast.
If you don't bomb some shitholes every now and then you could miss it.
His people are trying so hard to laugh at these jokes.
Yeah, I mean, without Gerald there.
They're terrible.
They're down one man.
Why wouldn't we be very clear with our allies and be like, hey, listen, stop fucking around, man.
We're not going to help you.
I think that's fair.
I think that's probably one of the strongest moves that you could make as well.
Yeah.
A firm commitment to saying, hey, we're not part of this.
Yeah, if you go in, you're on your own, man.
Which I know they aren't technically because they are part of NATO, but.
Of course, we understand what you're saying, right?
Of course.
And if you really would want a leader that would be more wishy-washy there?
I like it when people are... What the hell are you wishing for?
Well, he wants them scared and destabilized.
Sure.
I don't really understand why that's a good thing.
Well, it's because bombs are cool.
Bombs are cool, but the military-industrial complex is gonna love this.
It's gonna be great.
Yeah.
Biden also added in the call with Netanyahu.
He said this.
He said, you gotta win.
Take the win.
The wind is having drones and missiles and just, it's like someone's swinging and you pull back.
It's like, ah, you're ahead on the cards.
Run away!
I think it's hilarious that they say, okay, well, we stopped 99% of them.
Let's just for easy math, say it was a thousand, right?
So you have, you know, like a small percentage, but what, what, what got hit?
Well, let's say it was his family's house.
Would he have reacted the same way?
Right.
Or the one that got through if it hit, if it hit a government building.
Right.
So I think you have to respond, but Biden's losing the progressive vote.
He's worried about losing the squad vote.
Yeah, he's worried about losing the Death to America chanters.
Those are the people.
They have too much of a stranglehold on that party.
You'd like to think it's some crazy fringe, but it's not.
That's the reason he's losing support in his own party.
Well, not only just the chanters, but the unions.
These are the people teaching them the chant.
These are the people that are talking about this in their union meetings.
You don't know anything, Josh.
Let's go in reverse.
The squad vote, it's not significant.
No.
There's a lot of support for a ceasefire.
Yeah.
However, that doesn't translate to the Death to America chanting, No, I think you're right.
Yeah, I hope I'm not speaking in a turn Jared. I feel like you have your fingers more on the pulse of that than I am
No, I think you're right. There's of course an increasing amount of legislators and Congress people who are
More willing to back a ceasefire right now, but the majority of people
Seem to either not want to hear that, you know, so Democrats at large feel it feels like they're still
You know pro-israel kill Palestine basically, you know Yeah.
Like, like Fetterman, unfortunately.
Yeah, yeah, people, exactly.
And what are they saying about Fetterman right now?
The right is saying the stroke broke the woke or something like that.
That's a shirt, huh?
Yeah, it's a hell of a phrase.
It's actually like the only one that they've come up with in the last like 40 years that is worth anything, I think.
But like, of course, like conservatives, maybe there's like one or two who don't want to bomb Palestine as is, but that's a large majority of that crowd do.
And then the getting away with the win that Biden's talking about.
Why do they refuse to recognize or talk about pulling off a strike on a consulate and assassinating a top general?
Yeah.
Why do they not recognize this?
That was literally Trump's speech they were just, like, getting all horny for him for.
Yeah!
But when it's Israel doing it to Iran, they're ignoring it entirely.
They're ignoring it.
They're acting like it's a nothing burger.
Compared to this other situation, which no one got killed, a seven-year-old girl got significantly injured.
But that's the only casualty.
Shrapnel, I think.
Yeah, and, I mean, that is a win.
I think she got, like, really messed up.
Yeah, I don't think she died.
I think shrapnel fell down on her head.
My favorite part about this clip you just played was when Jeremy was saying, 99% of missiles didn't go through.
So for easy math, let's say 1,000.
And then he stopped doing math.
He never returned to that number.
And then there's the big problem, kind of the thesis of what Stephen's episode is today.
Is this really World War III?
And he's got beef with that.
And here's the other problem.
People talk about World War III.
It's not lost on me that this could be a problem with Russia-China, right?
Unlikely alliances.
For example, Russia-China hated each other.
Now with this sort of conflict, they've become strange bedfellows to a degree.
I wouldn't go as far as to call them allies necessarily, but they've certainly moved closer together.
If you have this trifecta of Russia-Iran-China, right?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
That could be a problem.
That definitely could create some global instability, and I think will certainly result in a conflict in the Middle East.
The leap from that to World War III is a little bit tough.
Listening to this, it's almost like Stephen would be surprised they didn't call World War I World War I when it was going on.
Sure.
Yeah.
I don't think anyone is saying it's begun.
I'm saying when you get destabilizing, you're saying, hey, the Jenga thing might fall.
You know, the tower might fall.
We need to watch out for it.
This is the minutes to midnight clock.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No one is saying, well, it started.
World War III is here now.
Well, someone might.
I definitely am concerned, but I think that for people to go out and say World War 3 is starting is irresponsible.
And you do see a lot of people on both the left and the right.
At a certain point, it's just about clicks.
You're not going to get through the algorithm if you say, well, you know what, hold on a second.
There was a lot of warning beforehand.
It seems like a lot of people knew about this.
If they wanted to cause more damage, they could have.
This seems like a little bit of saber rattling.
Israel does have the right to defend itself.
We have to be concerned about these different alliances.
That doesn't get you a lot of clicks.
What does is World War 3 is about to pop off!
Great, now I have to change the title of my first video today.
I apologize.
You shamed me into it.
I forgot.
It's all caps, too.
Is it all caps?
Yeah.
Well, World War III has to be caps, but is the rest caps?
Everything.
All of it.
Would you believe that he might not be joking?
I would definitely believe that.
It looks like in the last year, Jeremy has released episodes with titles like, World War Three is Coming.
Also, I Broke the Mainstream Media, Woke, Virtue Signaling, Backfires, and More.
That was all one episode.
Nice.
The other one is Elon Musk Just Prevented World War Three Between Russia and Ukraine.
Jesus fucking Christ.
And then another episode, World War Three Live Updates, Online Censorship, The State of the USA, and A Huge Guillotine.
Great.
Do you think he was like, yeah I'm here at World War 3 like he's like at like Coachella?
Probably a tabletop convention.
Underground tabletop.
Underground, yeah.
Because he's not welcoming to everyone.
I can't even W. He's throwing his own.
Yeah, I kind of agree with Steven on this.
I don't like the clickbaity, fear-mongering of the media.
What's his title called?
Is This Really World War 3?
Yeah, he does say that, huh?
Interesting.
He still wants the clickbaity.
Of course.
He still wants the algorithm to feed him.
He wants to sound better.
He wants to sound better about it.
The answer is no.
It's not.
Not yet, at least.
Of course.
It'd be irresponsible to be like, World War III has begun.
Of course.
Yes.
Especially since it has to do with two people in the same region.
Sure, yeah.
It's okay to have real conversations around it.
Sure.
Why not?
I don't know.
After this discussion, they bring in their conflict specialist.
What was his name, Jared?
Ginger Snap.
Ginger Snap.
What the fuck was that?
Yeah, he's just a guy that they think knows a lot about war and he kind of says a lot of the same stuff that we've said that most of this is posturing.
It's retaliatory without intent of escalation, which seems to be what's going on.
Out there within Israel saying that they are going to retaliate for this retaliation.
Sure, yeah.
Who knows what that's gonna look like or when it'll happen.
There was a pre-taliate, then a retaliate.
Yeah, that's true.
They did a pre-taliation.
Yeah, exactly.
Fuck.
You know that's the episode title, right?
Pre-taliation, dude.
Yeah, but I don't want to talk to Ginger Snap.
Our new fourth chair friend here.
No, thanks.
Did you have a good theme song, at least?
Nope, just another one.
If it hadn't been forgotten, I'd you know.
Nah, they did...
That one.
Oh, nice.
Don't care about it, but the last clip of the day, they go out like this.
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And if you're watching on YouTube, you know how this goes.
We're going to continue with Gingersnap and play Pokemon or Racial Slur.
My favorite.
YouTube piss off.
Great.
So you can sign up now for Mug Club and you can watch the rest of the episode, the extended interview with Gingersnap, as well as play Pokemon or Racial Slur.
Should we get in on that or?
You know, I'm going to consider it.
Actually, I'm not.
Sounds bad.
Sounds terrible.
What did we learn, guys?
Uh, you guys can learn this about me.
One of the last songs I learned how to play on the little six string guitar, the Pokemon Blue and Red theme.
Hey, Pokemon Yellow, guys.
See, that's nice.
And that's all that really matters.
It's also all that I can handle.
That's it, yeah.
For this week.
If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
Again, really nice reviews.
Good.
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DJ Danarchy, of course.
Pity the subject of the podcast is a complete arse.
Refresh my player in anticipation of new episodes.
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