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EPISODE 16: WHITE WALSH (DECEMBER 21ST, 2023)

While Steven is on holiday hiatus, Dennis takes the reigns, shifting the shithead spotlight towards the Daily Wire-verse. A man hellbent on figuring out what a woman is...only if he agrees with the answer. Winner of New Republic's 2022 “Transphobe of the Year Award”. Matt Walsh. This episode proves they all have the same stale, racist, misogynistic, anti-LGBTQ+ outline. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	🎵 Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast typically about the podcast, Louder With Crowder.
	My name's Byron.
	I'm joined today by Jared.
	Hello.
	And Dennis.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	And New Year's, boys.
	Excited?
	I'm excited.
	I am so pumped.
	Is this gonna drop after the New Year's?
	Yeah, it should.
	Maybe on New Year's Day even.
	How about at midnight?
	Sure, I don't know.
	Maybe.
	I might be doing something.
	I guess I could schedule it.
	No, don't, don't, don't.
	Uh, any resolutions?
	I don't have any New Year's resolutions.
	I tend to not make them, because every day is a new year, Byron.
	That's interesting.
	That's very cool.
	Actually, it isn't, though.
	Every day is a new year, yeah.
	Every day is a new year.
	Yeah, not every day is a new day, new year, new minute, new hour.
	Every minute, every second is a new year.
	Time is just two numbers separated by a colon, Byron.
	I'm gonna spend more time in the gym with my boys.
	Okay.
	Lefty and righty.
	No running out of Traeger pellets.
	Let's start bench pressing.
	And I vow to have one car only.
	Great.
	Yes.
	Do you have more than one car?
	No, it's a joke.
	It's a Stevenson.
	Oh, yeah, okay.
	Yeah, I get it all now.
	I'm dumb.
	Mm-hmm.
	My resolution is to understand your references better.
	That's my New Year's resolution.
	Do you want to get a new car?
	Like, is that what you want?
	Like a Ford Raptor or something?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, like something like that.
	Do you know what car Steven drives?
	Probably a Ford Raptor.
	Well, he was given one away, but I think it was because it was a tax thing, would be my guess.
	Oh, man.
	I wonder what he actually drives.
	No other resolutions, huh?
	I mean, I don't like making resolutions.
	It feels weird to put that on a pedestal.
	This last year, I lost 45 pounds this year.
	So that was my resolution.
	My resolution is that I was about to say exactly the opposite of that, was to eat more curry one year.
	Oh fuck, curry is so gross.
	And so I, what?
	Come on.
	Yeah.
	Come on.
	Oh my God.
	So I just wanted to eat more curry.
	That was, I felt like that was obtainable.
	So I, I started working at this food trailer spot and, uh, about like a month later, this Thai trailer comes in and every single day the chef Eddie, he would come over and he'd say, Hey man, do you want to eat some of this curry?
	Every day.
	And so every day I started eating curry and it like green, red, yellow, it didn't matter.
	He's just hooking it up and he's like, here's some for the weekend.
	This is like the best year of his life.
	Really came, it was excellent.
	It was like 2015, I want to say.
	I'm just saying sometimes these things work and all you got to do is set your intentions.
	All right.
	I respect that.
	Set your intentions, listeners.
	This week we're trying something a little bit different.
	Steven's on holiday break because he deserves it.
	He worked really hard the last few weeks, months even.
	Shooting jingle all the way through.
	And while he's gone, we thought it might be a good idea, a good opportunity to check in with a different dumbass.
	Different dumbass?
	Yeah, a man hell-bent on figuring out what a woman is only if he agrees with the answer.
	The winner of New Republic's 2022 Transphobe of the Year Award.
	That's an honor.
	Matt Walsh.
	Yay, Matt.
	And leading this and future White Walsh episodes, it's going to be Dennis.
	Yeah, yeah.
	When I listen to my podcast this year, Matt Walsh was one of my top listened to podcasts.
	Really?
	Yes.
	And that's, I just don't listen to that many.
	And you've really zeroed in on Matt Walsh.
	I don't know why it is.
	I think it's because he's so immediately disgusting when I tune in that I'm always like, the fuck is this?
	In every episode, he always gets outraged about trans issues.
	Always.
	And I don't even know what's going on in the trans community.
	And so I tune in to hear what he's upset about, to hear what I'm outraged about.
	He thinks about it more than most trans people.
	He does.
	It's really wild.
	And this episode is not without that.
	Oh, there's going to be a little bit of that?
	A little bit.
	Yeah, for sure.
	So I'm excited to go through it.
	I'm excited, too, because I've never really connected with Matt Walsh.
	Jesus Christ, this dog.
	I've listened to a lot of these folks.
	Ben Shapiro was one of my doors.
	Sure.
	Skipped right past most of the other Daily Wire folks.
	Yeah, I don't know that many of them.
	What's interesting about Matt's show is that it's how quick he just tunes in and he's like, I hate this.
	I'm just gonna like focus on this primarily.
	Women, slavery was good for black people.
	That kind of a vibe.
	But he also, he really loves this kind of criticism.
	Oh, he feeds on people.
	He's like the king troll.
	He's like a troll.
	Yeah, so he he loves he always has this like sarcastic stuff They'll do and I think it's just this like defense mechanism to not be upset about anything He's the bullied that leans into it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah for sure.
	And I yeah, I mean whatever, you know He's welcome to use dismissal and trolling as like a means to like say that his points are correct and also to make our show get more attention exactly, so yeah if If you want to share this, please.
	Thank you so much, Matt.
	I appreciate it.
	Thanks, Matt.
	If you want to have a comment about this, feel free to, you know, do your thing.
	This episode we're talking about is his last one of the year.
	It was just before Christmas, I believe.
	It's got everything.
	It's got racism disguised as like protecting us.
	Sure.
	It's got demonizing groups.
	Wait, us being white men?
	Yeah, white men generally.
	Yeah, of course, because we're the only ones at risk of it.
	Someone's gotta do it!
	It has some demonizing of group, because some people do bad things, and then he just demonizes the whole thing.
	He learns about nuance, so that's really fun.
	He learns that nuance exists.
	Does he look it up in a dictionary?
	I'll say that he experiences nuance, but he ignores it, so he doesn't really...
	And then it also has, you know, a little bit of things designed in it to help us learn how marginalized we are as white men in the United States.
	It's good to know.
	I didn't know I was marginalized, and I'm glad that he opened my eyes to it.
	It sounds like an adventure we're about to go on.
	It is, yeah, but I think our best place to start, I would say, is that Matt learning that sometimes when you lose, it's not because you lost, but because the game is rigged, I think.
	At the start of the show, he opens up talking about how the state of Texas, it did this thing where it allows the state to rule on immigration issues, and it's being hotly contested, and it's probably going to go to the Supreme Court.
	So that's what we open up with, discussing the legal ramifications of that kind of decision.
	Not to sound too defeatist, but the Biden administration is probably going to win the case, and that's what happens every time conservatives try to use the legal system to defend this country's borders.
	It happened when Donald Trump tried to reverse DACA, which was de facto amnesty for hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens.
	Even though DACA was just invented on the spot, out of thin air by Barack Obama
	to help Democrats in the election year, the federal courts determined
	that the Trump administration wasn't allowed to get rid of it.
	And along the same lines, when Arizona passed a law allowing police officers
	to inspect the immigration status of suspected illegal aliens,
	the Supreme Court struck that one down too.
	So.
	Yeah, so he just, he dives right in.
	How racist can we be?
	He already starts there.
	But I love that he starts this with, yeah, whenever we talk about the legality of this, it always gets struck down.
	Of course.
	Yeah, that's the entire fucking point of the Supreme Court.
	Doesn't he love the Supreme Court, though, too?
	Right now, it seems like they do.
	He'll love the Supreme Court when they rule on the Trump thing.
	Exactly.
	And also, you know, things just come out of thin air.
	They do.
	Just out of thin air.
	But I mean, things have to come from somewhere.
	Yeah, they do.
	DACA wasn't just like... It's DACA, okay?
	Yes, pardon me.
	And Dari from Finding Nemo.
	Yeah, Dari from Finding Nemo.
	But no, it's, of all the things to talk about, DACA is one of those things that's like almost universally accepted as like, these were children who came here, you know, without their, out of their own control.
	He implies that for some reason, the whole point of DACA was to help Barack Obama get elected.
	Yeah, keep him in there.
	Veiled great replacement theories. Yeah, right exactly and then at the end he talks a bit about how like there was
	this decision Where like in Arizona you can't just like stop any brown
	person and ask if they're there legally Yeah, you should be able to stop and frisk. The court
	ruling I think he's talking about that court ruling Allowed them to stop and ask for papers, but there were
	other components of it that said you can't detain them indefinitely while you wait
	Basic human rights stuff that apparently, I mean, that's what happens when Republicans try and use the legal system.
	Of course.
	A bunch of bullshit.
	I mean, they loved it when it was called stop and frisk, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, why not?
	Same thing, right?
	Round two.
	Yeah, of course.
	V2.
	V2, exactly.
	Stop and frisk V2.
	But that's also an old ruling.
	He's just drumming up some old shit because he's pissed about it.
	This is just the intro, right?
	He begins talking about the huge problem of immigration, and then he just has this clip kind of exploring how it's only beginning now.
	And for the most part, the organizations providing this help have escaped almost all scrutiny until very recently.
	And that began to change this week rather quickly when Ashley St.
	Clair, who's a conservative commentator, uploaded a video to social media... Can you pause real quick?
	She's a commentator now, but she writes for the Babylon Bee, the satire site.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She uploaded a video to social media as she waited to board a Delta flight at Phoenix's Sky Harbor International Airport.
	And while she was boarding this flight, here's what she saw.
	Watch.
	I'm at the Phoenix Airport right now.
	I'm waiting to board my flight to New York to JFK.
	And it looks like we have a whole lot of migrants who are also boarding this flight that the U.S.
	taxpayers are paying for.
	This is what the U.S.
	taxpayers are paying for right here.
	Premium seats.
	On Delta, that they have people coming here, we're paying for this, shipping them out to New York City, because guess what?
	Everywhere else is at capacity.
	So they have these sanctuary cities, like New York, that they're now shipping these migrants to, that we're all paying for.
	I've seen this clip, but Jared, I don't know if he has.
	So the clip is just her filming.
	I did happen to see this.
	Yeah, just filming people of color in an airport.
	And there are people who are migrants.
	There are, for sure.
	She thinks that all of them have these like bags that are like, I just, like it's like a, I got processed and all I got was a stupid bag kind of a shirt.
	In my mind, this woman has like, is she 23 or 63 face?
	I know.
	Yeah.
	And I also, I love, I love confusing.
	This is unrelated to all of it, but I love the way she said premium seats, like the most New York person.
	The fuck is she talking about?
	How does she know what seats they have?
	She knows.
	Later on, I found another clip after this, but she was sitting in like premium select or whatever and saw somebody with one of those processing bags next to her.
	We're going to talk a lot more about what these processing bags are, but it's a local group, a non-government organization, NGOs they call them, that helps people seeking asylum get to places in the United States, right?
	That's what they do.
	Yeah, I mean there was one of those that was actually a religious- This one is, yeah.
	Okay, yeah.
	It happens very often.
	It's like a Catholic something of Arizona, and he'll talk about it because he'll talk shit about it later.
	Alex Jones went to one of those, tried to kind of do some ambush journalism to get it shut down.
	And the only thing that he could find was that they weren't using seatbelts in the van when they were moving children.
	It was just like, come on, man.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, leave these people alone.
	He's just there to make people uncomfortable.
	And it seems like that's what her intention is as well.
	Yeah.
	I mean, at the end of the day, the thing that you're going to find in this episode is that Matt just thinks that asylum seeking is never honest.
	That it's always a lie.
	And that a big influx of people coming here is solely because they like went on Reddit and were like, if you want to sneak into the U.S., do this.
	Just take 12 days walking across Mexico and then say that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Right?
	We're talking about Reddit real quick.
	We had a great listener set up a subreddit for us.
	What?
	We had a subreddit?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Subreddit.
	Hell yeah, what is it?
	r slash louder underscore than underscore Crowder.
	Hell yeah, look at that.
	Nice work.
	I like that.
	Thanks Big Daddy Teacher.
	Big Daddy Teacher?
	Great.
	Very cool.
	You'll hear so much more about this stance on immigration.
	There's tons coming to it.
	But I think what he does when he, he does this all the time too.
	He does this thing where he'll ask these questions and leave it up to the listener to prove them right.
	What that means is that because of the blackout from the airlines, we don't have clarity on who's paying for these migrants' premium seats.
	We also don't know why these migrants are in this country.
	Did they submit a fraudulent asylum claim and get waved in by the Biden administration?
	He does this shit all the time.
	Pure assumption?
	Straight up an assumption, but he phrases it like a question.
	Well, that's a Tucker Carlson original.
	Yeah, so he doesn't feel bad about it.
	That's a Tucker Carlson original.
	Yeah, he's like, I don't know.
	Could they be murderers?
	Could you be?
	I don't know.
	What do you say?
	Could you be lying about stuff?
	Yeah, yeah.
	What are you talking about?
	The other thing we jumped over is saying that everywhere else is at capacity other than New York City.
	Everywhere.
	New York City is the most at capacity place in the United States.
	What are we talking about?
	Yeah, I mean, look at, like, the fucking Dakotas, man.
	Yeah, plenty of room for people to live there.
	There's plenty of room.
	When she talked about sanctuary cities, as if that's what they're for?
	Yeah, I don't know what the fuck she's talking about.
	But anyways, the problem I see with this and, like, her getting this attention is that it's gonna cause these other people to start following suit, right?
	He talked about some other journalists who, like, followed a couple families around, and he said that he saw migrants everywhere.
	Everyone in the airport was migrants.
	And he's, like, following around this family with, like, children.
	He's, like, following them around.
	It's just disgusting.
	It's disgusting, yeah.
	And it makes me so mad because you're going to see more of that now.
	Of course.
	It's a tension economy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I will say, though, that I fly Delta a lot and I hope that conservatives start boycotting Delta.
	Sick.
	Get some good deals on seats.
	Get upgraded to Delta 1.
	I wouldn't mind that at all.
	That'd be the best sit in the lounge with all the other migrants.
	At least, you know, we talked about trans rights and all that stuff earlier, too.
	Matt uses this opportunity to kind of like make a kind of a one-two punch joke.
	So let's see what he says.
	Now, Current Revolt also reported that some migrants had to be escorted out of women's bathrooms at the airport after they barged right in, so at least they've already been Americanized in that respect, I guess.
	I mean, did you find this story?
	No.
	Does it exist?
	You can look it up, I don't know.
	I didn't look for this particular, but what I love is that he describes, for one, he loves obviously talking about people going into opposite bathrooms or whatever.
	But does he know you can't barge into a bathroom without doors?
	That's a good point.
	Does he know that you have to... You can walk briskly.
	You can aggressively walk.
	With confidence, I suppose.
	Yeah.
	I don't see a new story.
	I bet there is some... I mean, honestly, I went into the wrong locker room at a gym once.
	Very embarrassing.
	You did, and you barged in, right?
	Well, I'm just saying that it happens sometimes.
	So I would imagine there is an account of someone going into the wrong bathroom.
	Especially someone who might not be from a country.
	Sure.
	And they get confused.
	You know, I'm not seeing anything.
	I saw a couple other clips, but it was usually just that, but he showed some other clips like proving his point, but then he said the quiet part out loud.
	I just want to play this and see if you guys can pick up on what he implies.
	Nobody's ever explained why the federal government should be in the business of quote reuniting people in the first place.
	If you as an American citizen are separated from your family because you commit a crime, then guess what?
	The government's not going to pay for your family to visit you in prison, nor should they.
	The whole premise is absurd.
	What I hate about this is he just implies that every person in our country who's not born in this country is a criminal.
	Yeah, with leaps like this, he should really be on American Ninja Warrior.
	Right.
	Because this is incredible.
	Yes, it's such this like huge thing to imply that like they're all criminals, right?
	Everyone's criminals.
	One sentence, and then he tapes over everything.
	Totally.
	They're a criminal.
	What I love about this is he's like, he says that the federal government isn't in the business of uniting families, right?
	Sure.
	You know, because you're criminals, right?
	Uh-huh.
	Does he know that the federal prisons are funded with federal money?
	Like, we literally pay for them to be in prison, and when those visits happen, when people visit their family, we pay for that.
	We do pay for that.
	We pay for conjugal visits, honestly.
	Yeah.
	We pay for people to have sex with each other.
	Does he not know this?
	America is pretty sex positive in a cool way.
	We were founded on, you know, the morals of one Benjamin Franklin.
	Of course.
	That dude was stinking it up.
	He was freaky.
	All over the place.
	He was.
	God bless him, honestly.
	Just smell him.
	Yuck.
	So, yes, you're not wrong at all, Jared.
	So a lot of these clips that he plays, people just confronting people in the airport, right?
	And it's like, it's this, like, ambush journalism.
	And the thing that makes this really, like, extra, like, gross is that a lot of these people don't speak English very well.
	Yeah.
	Conversations in these, like, broken languages.
	What Matt implies here is that the only way that you can get the right information, right?
	The government's lying to you.
	Everyone's lying to you.
	Who's funding this, right?
	That you have to ask the migrants themselves is his stance that he takes.
	The only way to get any clear answers is to speak directly to the migrants themselves, and often they're willing to open up about what's going on and talk about it because they also don't know what they're supposed to be secretive about.
	That's why the other day the commentator using the name Nuance Bro decided to speak to some of these migrants.
	Again, he was at Phoenix Airport waiting for his flight.
	That's when he encountered several African migrants from Guinea who were on their way to New York City, and here's how that played out.
	Okay, so I'm not going to play this clip, right?
	Because a lot of it's in French and you need subtitles.
	What makes me so upset about this, he implies that the best source is to go there because these people don't know they have to hide things.
	Or what they're supposed to hide, because it's all a conspiracy, of course.
	Of course.
	I wish that he understood that there's so much language barrier here.
	In this clip, this guy goes and talks to these people and is like, hey, where are you from?
	And he asked to see their documents.
	And then they show them.
	Because these people don't know that they can be like, fuck off man, leave me alone.
	Well, what a scary situation.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like if I was in some other country.
	What an intimidating situation.
	So intimidating and so intense.
	There's someone with a camera in the ear.
	These people have those same Catholic ministries that we'll talk about later.
	I had a bunch of those, but it makes me upset.
	It's just so taking advantage.
	Word of the day is disgusting.
	Imagine being a refugee where your life is so hard that you would like to be a safer place.
	Uh-huh.
	And you get there, and you're treated like this.
	Yeah, you're just like... Immediately.
	Yeah, it's heartbreaking.
	You know, it reminds me, when I was in Japan, I was at a basketball game.
	Show me your papers.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I was at a basketball game, and I was taking pictures of the basketball game.
	Yeah.
	And the family of one of the players, like, hey, can you go take pictures of so-and-so, blah, blah, blah.
	And I got told to leave.
	Like, hey, you can't be here, show me your ticket, da da da.
	Sure.
	We were trying to have a conversation.
	I don't know what this guy was asking me.
	I know that he told me no, because he was making a motion of no, but that was it.
	Even that interaction, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	And like, I was allowed to be there.
	And that's a far safer situation.
	It was still very uncomfortable.
	Of course, yeah.
	I mean, it's not even close what these people are going through, but it's just an example of the language barrier can make it really hard.
	And I had to go to my friend who speaks Japanese to be like, hey, can you clarify?
	And that's the thing is that when they're in these situations, they don't have like a liaison to help them with that interaction.
	No, I wish that they did.
	And the thing is, is that when they have those liaisons, then those people get like accused of, you're just helping the system.
	You're just, you know, you're funneling these people in, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Thankfully, Matt decides to explore a little bit about who's actually getting these people in the country, but he forgets a key part of it.
	Okay, so that's interesting.
	Why are these migrants from Guinea carrying paperwork from Catholic Community Service of Southern Arizona?
	Go to the organization's website, you'll find that they claim to help, quote, families who have legally entered the United States and have escaped persecution in their home countries.
	They say that they, quote, serve migrant families who have left their home countries to escape violence and poverty.
	So essentially they're adopting the Biden administration's approach.
	They're treating all asylum claims as valid, no matter how fraudulent they may be.
	He said, why do they have this?
	So that I went and looked, and it turns out that this is something that these people apparently do?
	He does waste a lot of time.
	What the fuck is that?
	What is this analysis?
	It's so dumb.
	And it's so funny because he ignores it.
	It's like, they help people who legally enter the country.
	And then he goes on this weird rant that it's like, okay, so we have to just assume they aren't lying all the time?
	What, that there's maybe like a paper trail for these guys to come and go out of this place?
	Like, apparently legally?
	These are the people who are like, we should have Trump on the ballot because he's presumed innocent.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's none of that here.
	Later on in this, so I didn't have a clip for it, but he like implies that he's like, where's all this money coming from?
	Right.
	I think it's donated.
	There's a big donate button.
	There are 501c3.
	You can look up all of their funding.
	Yeah, Catholic Community Services of Southern Arizona, Incorporated.
	Yes, you can look it up.
	They've been around since 1933.
	It's not like they're part of the Biden administration.
	No.
	And a lot of their money comes from federal grants.
	Sure.
	Like it's part of Homeland Security.
	Of course.
	Well, they probably know Joe Biden.
	They do, actually.
	Joe Biden works there.
	Hunter Biden actually works for this place.
	That's cool.
	That's the real secret, dude.
	Dude, that's wild.
	Okay.
	It describes the whole program right here.
	I don't know if you get into this later.
	No, I mean I'll explore a little bit.
	Families receive travel bags before they leave.
	Bags including food, water, toiletries, hygiene items, diapers, baby food if necessary.
	So we're funding that?
	We're funding basic necessities for people who are hurting?
	I guess it seems that way.
	This is disgusting.
	Yeah, it's so gross.
	But then he goes into this weird rant about the Catholic Church and how the Catholic Church wouldn't... He's Catholic.
	Is he?
	Yeah.
	But he talks about how the old Catholic Church would never have went for this kind of a thing.
	No Pope of mine.
	And he compares it to theological something.
	I don't remember the term he used.
	But he basically compared it to going in and liberating people who don't want liberation.
	But he forgets that these people are coming to us for help.
	These are people coming to our house saying, I need help.
	And yes, of course, there may be people who are going to try and sneak in.
	Sure.
	That's going to happen.
	The vast majority.
	I do not believe that's the case.
	These are the same people that believe everyone is exploiting the welfare system.
	Yeah.
	Food stamps.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	And because some people exploit that, we should just cancel it for everyone?
	Yeah.
	That's just not how that works.
	That's just, that's not how anything should work in regards to like welfare in that class.
	Although Matt would disagree.
	Of course.
	But I think that the problem isn't necessarily just that it's the legality of it.
	According to some estimates, Joe Biden has imported 250 years worth of Hispanic migrants into this country in three years.
	That's not compassionate.
	That is cruelty.
	That's indifference.
	What?
	That endangers millions of Americans who have done nothing wrong.
	It destroys our sovereignty and our way of life.
	Right?
	It's 250 years worth?
	What does that even mean?
	Are they a finite resource that you like use up Hispanic people?
	Of course, yeah.
	It's like Cobalt.
	You gotta get all these small other migrant children to be digging these things out of the... Oh my God!
	These rocks, they're going to crush their little fingers.
	Years worth, this fucking idiot says.
	250 years worth.
	What is that?
	I don't know.
	I don't even know where to begin.
	I had to listen to it a couple of times.
	I was like, does he mean like there's been a huge uptick?
	I think that's what he meant, obviously.
	Sure, but how many generations?
	But notice how he mentioned that it wasn't the legality of it that's ruining our country or putting us at risk.
	It's just... Oh my god, that's almost 14 generations, you guys.
	It's just like the classic Americans don't want to measure anything with anything but the imperial system.
	It's the sands of times, but it's just a bunch of migrants flowing through the hourglass there.
	These are the days of our lives.
	Just like Hispanics of the hourglass.
	I mean, I'm just flipping through charts.
	There's no way 250 years worth is a ridiculous stat.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	It's nonsense.
	Scientists are saying, Byron.
	What would the year's equivalent be under Trump?
	That's like the confusing thing.
	Well, is that implying that his were four years worth?
	I have no idea.
	Well, that's, it's so strange because it, I mean, yes, immigration is increasing.
	Yeah.
	Trump was the bottleneck that we needed in that hourglass.
	The fighter in the middle.
	If I'm being honest, it was COVID, but yeah.
	The fact that he didn't even mention the legality of the immigration.
	You could get like really big numbers like this, you guys.
	Just it's exponential.
	And I think that because we figured out his math equation here, I think that we can make our own statistics now too.
	That's great.
	We have permission.
	We have permission.
	We got it.
	What's crazy is he says this and this is where he raps.
	That was it?
	He's done with it.
	Wow.
	I was hoping he was going to have like a rap like he was gonna... No, he wouldn't rap.
	No.
	What do you think he might talk about next?
	Oh, so we have kind of a racist topic.
	So let's jump to trans.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do it.
	Yeah, why not?
	Okay.
	Here's a story to start with, Delia Wire.
	A prominent Philadelphia LGBTQ activist was arrested Monday and charged with the rape of two minors younger than 13.
	Kendall Stevens, a 37-year-old man who identifies as a woman, had a preliminary arraignment in a Philadelphia court on Monday and was charged with rape, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse, unlawful contact with minors, corruption of minors.
	Unlawful contact with minors, indecent assault against people less than 13 years of age, obscenity to minors, and endangering the welfare of children.
	So, obviously a disgusting story.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Disgusting story about a person who abused, allegedly abused children.
	But what Matt likes to do is he likes to demonize by association.
	Of course.
	Hey, this person did that thing.
	And then he'll like talk about somebody else, a whole bunch, imply that this person had to do with the entire story.
	Yeah, he does that a lot.
	And in this one, he doesn't have a ton of info on this case in particular, so he moves on to a different case that's related, but he spends a bunch of time on that.
	Tricky.
	Yeah.
	The connection here is that Kendall Stevens, the person who's accused of doing this thing, was a friend of somebody who was murdered named Josh Kruger.
	And so he shows this clip of her on the news expressing disgust over how somebody could do this to Josh before Kendall was arrested, right?
	So Josh murdered, Kendall upset.
	Josh has some allegations that are obviously very bad against him as well, but Matt really digs into it.
	So there you see Kendall Stevens, who is allegedly a child rapist, appearing weepy about this other, so that's one LGBT activist in the city, allegedly a child rapist, appearing to testify to what a great guy this Josh Krueger was, saying that he didn't deserve what happened to him.
	Well guess what?
	Turns out that allegedly, well he actually did deserve what happened to him, because allegedly Josh Krueger was also sexually abusing minors, which is what led to his death.
	The Post Millennial reported recently, the family of Robert Davis, 19, was accused of killing Philadelphia activist Josh Krueger.
	...claims that Kruger started a drug-fueled sexual relationship with Davis when he was just 15 years old.
	Before Davis allegedly shot Kruger, according to police, Davis told them that Kruger was threatening to post sexually explicit videos of him online.
	The Davis family made the claims during a recent interview with the Enquirer, which they alleged that Davis, who's still at large, struggled to keep the sexual relationship hidden, which ultimately caused his life to unravel.
	Detectives reportedly discovered sexually explicit photos and messages on Kruger's phone during an investigation into his death.
	Authorities did not reveal if the images and messages involved Davis, but did call the images, quote, disturbing.
	Authorities gave the evidence to Special Victims Unit, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.
	Again, obviously disgusting.
	The thing that drives me crazy about the way he approaches this is that the things that need to be addressed here, right?
	Children being around adults who are inappropriate.
	Sure.
	Right?
	Revenge porn.
	Drug use amongst teens.
	Instead of focusing on those things, Matt finds a different pattern.
	The allegations, I mean, there are obviously intense allegations.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	I don't know the current status on this.
	I know that the person who allegedly murdered him turned himself in.
	He's now in jail and awaiting trial, I believe.
	And so obviously it's all fucked up, right?
	The reason it's fucked up is because of the child abuse allegations, because of the murder.
	That's what's fucked up about it.
	What we need to look at is, like, the things that actually caused this kind of stuff, and that's where we should focus our efforts, right?
	But this charge for Stevens was... I mean, their next hearing was yesterday, so we won't know much about this for a long time.
	But I think that the problem is that this is not being used in any productive way on this show, right?
	He's not using it as a means to further a conversation around keeping children safe directly, or helping people stay away from drugs or homelessness, or anything like that.
	He's attempting to demonize all LGBTQ plus people?
	He might, let's see, yeah.
	And if the allegations are true, then we're starting to see a whole network I mean, what are the chances of that?
	You've got one prominent LGBT activist who's killed.
	Allegedly he was a child predator.
	And then they pull in another prominent LGBT activist in the news report to talk about that other guy.
	Now he's arrested for being a child predator.
	It's like you start to see a pattern form, almost.
	Doesn't this happen in every city and there are like halfway houses for predators?
	They like just house them everywhere and they don't necessarily, uh, are, you know, on the queer spectrum or anything.
	This is a pretty common thing that cities do is group all their like offenders together.
	I think beyond that, at the end of the day, if these people truly are doing these things, right, which I'm not saying they aren't, I just don't know.
	It's all alleged.
	Yeah.
	People who do gross things generally associate with other people who do gross things.
	So that's no different than being like, hey, this guy who was a murderer found out
	he hung out with other murderers.
	The connection is that gross people hang out with other gross people.
	I'm trying to think of what Walsh's Google or Bing search He's a big man.
	We know he is.
	Duck, duck, go kind of guy.
	But just the amount of this type of shit that he has to be just searching out on the frequent, it's got to send some kind of vibe to, like, your, you know, your Internet provider, right?
	Cause you're constantly talking about like LGBT, like pedophilia housing.
	What are the statistics?
	Yeah, it's like the stuff that must be coming over this guy's screen.
	Like I'm like thinking about how do you even go about like searching what he's talking about?
	I don't know.
	But then also that if you had to try a few things, now you're just searching a bunch of Wild ass shit that you probably don't want on your computer.
	He's probably using Tor.
	You think he's a Tor guy?
	No, he's not a Tor guy.
	I'm sure that his, I'm sure that his producers are.
	They're definitely like, we can't be on the hook for this shit, Matt.
	So we, I mean, we have two allegations.
	One's a fresh allegation and he's implying that this is a grand pedophilic.
	It's a network.
	Yeah.
	Which, I mean, this is satanic panic Franklin prostitution ring.
	This is, this is, this is satanic panic stuff.
	Yes, that's it.
	He's not even addressing the allegations at all.
	He's just saying, hey, listen, watch out for trans activists because they're going to rape your kids.
	Like, that's what he's saying.
	And it's it's it's not a fucking network, man.
	Do you do you think that they think about?
	What the cover of Ghoulies?
	It's just a trans person coming out of the toilet.
	They're hiding down there.
	1985's Ghoulies and 1988's Ghoulies 2.
	I see this all the time on folks who are like so deeply offended by trans folks or drag.
	They don't understand how Venn diagrams work.
	Of course.
	Every group of people, in men, in women, less women than men, but in men, in women, in people who wear blue shirts, in people who listen to country music, there are people who do shitty things.
	There's not this fully enveloped circle inside of the trans community that is perverts.
	Pedophiles.
	Exactly.
	It's just not like that.
	But I mean, not surprisingly, Matt corrected the wrong dots.
	It happens all the time.
	How common it might be For these kinds of activists to also be sexual abusers.
	That is a question.
	That the people capable of answering it are not interested in answering.
	And that's where he ends this part of the story.
	Wow.
	He does this all the fucking time.
	Like I said, he just goes, well, that's because so-and-so did X, Y, Z. Is it because they're trans?
	I'll let you decide.
	Yeah.
	Oh, impressionable listener.
	They won't talk to me about it.
	And who's able to answer these questions in a way that will satisfy him?
	I reached out to the entire community to no response.
	Next!
	I have a lot of questions for the President of the United States and he won't talk to me.
	He won't talk to you because he's hiding something, bro!
	Of course, that's exactly it.
	He's fucking hiding something.
	It's not that your questions aren't important and they're wrong.
	Earlier in the show when they were talking about the racism, they interviewed this guy who ran a limousine.
	Limousine was the company, but he ran like a shuttle bus.
	But they're like, oh, a limo company moving these migrants?
	Of course, luxury.
	But they're talking to the guy and they're like, who contracted you for this job?
	And he's like, I don't fucking know, man.
	I don't know who hired my company that I work for to drive me here.
	More secrets being kept by the limo company.
	Like it's just that's what they do.
	It's like, yeah, in this example, he didn't ask anybody.
	There's nobody who can be like, yeah, actually, I know all of the perverts in the country.
	I know all the pedophiles in the country and they all know each other.
	Yeah.
	The undiscovered one's weird.
	It's all a network.
	Hmm.
	And that's that, and so he's like, alright cool, let's move on.
	He checks that big box off.
	Exactly, he's like, done talking about trans people, let's move on to white male privilege.
	Daily Wire has this, about 1 million fewer young men were attending college last year than about a decade ago according to a data analysis by the Pew Research Center.
	Last year there were about 1.2 million fewer young people ages 18 to 24 enrolled in college compared to 11 years earlier in 2011.
	Men drove the vast majority of that decline, especially men opting not to attend four-year schools.
	This story is interesting, right?
	So he's talking about how just fewer men are going to college.
	It's confusing because it seems like something that they would be for, because they oftentimes are pushing people to get into trades.
	Yeah, wasn't Mike Rowe just yelling at us last year about this?
	Of course, the dirty jobs guy.
	You're not wrong because he doesn't know how to approach this at first.
	You can tell that while he's doing this, he's trying to pick the appropriate level of outrage to talk about it.
	Sure.
	And it's really funny, but not surprisingly, we know the angle that he goes for, right?
	You know, you will see this cited as an example of the struggles that men are facing in our culture.
	It's generally seen as a bad thing that we've got fewer and fewer young men who are going to college.
	And I get that.
	You know, in many ways, it is, of course, a sign of those struggles.
	It's perfectly fair interpretation.
	It's also fair to point out that You know, again, like, where's this male privilege we're told about?
	We're told about white privilege.
	It's hard to find where that's happening exactly.
	Like, where can you cash in your whiteness chips to get some sort of benefit?
	What prize counter can you go to to cash in your chips and get your prize?
	I've never found it.
	Um, and male privilege is supposed to be the same thing.
	I mean, that's even harder to find.
	That's right, guys.
	White male privilege is a myth.
	Doesn't exist.
	Oh man, they were feminizing college all these years and it was not manly to go to college any longer.
	You're not a man if you go to college.
	That's for girls.
	Girls do STEM now, boys.
	You're supposed to get into dropshipping, and you're supposed to tell these women... You're one of the OnlyFans camgirl network, and you do dropshipping.
	That's what you do.
	It's not hustling to go to college.
	Come on.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's not that hustle culture.
	Oh, you want to look at brains all day?
	He sounded like he didn't know where to go with it, right?
	He's like, should I talk shit on it or should I?
	This is a stat about enrollment, not acceptance.
	It's not- Or completion.
	It's guys not enrolling, guys not applying, right?
	But I mean, women have outnumbered men in college since like the late 70s.
	It's been a long time.
	And of course, like it's going down, but his mention of the privilege of it, if men aren't applying for school, There's no discussion of the privilege there.
	It's fairly unrelated.
	Maybe, I mean, maybe that's a cultural thing.
	It could be.
	And actually, I tried to check and see enrollment states, the status by state, and compare that to like red versus blue states.
	I didn't see a trend.
	I think that we need to not worry so much about the college part of it.
	I think we need to talk more about the male privilege myth.
	There are all the other things that we talk about all the time on the show.
	Men are more likely to end up homeless.
	Men are more likely to end up addicted to drugs.
	Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	Men are more likely to It's so hard.
	commit suicide, men are more likely to drop out of high school, men are more likely to
	end up in prison, like on and on and on.
	By pretty much any metric you can name, men are on the short end of the stick, whichever
	measuring stick we're looking at, men are on the short end of it.
	And half of the time, these are things that he would be arguing personal responsibility.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Drug addiction, dropping out of school, ending up in prison.
	These are all things he doesn't want to address.
	I hate criminals, except when they're white men.
	Let me ask you guys if this resonates with you guys like it did me, okay?
	You sound different.
	Hard times create strong men.
	Strong men create good times, and good times create weak men.
	And weak men create hard times.
	Yes, yes.
	By hard times you mean low college enrollment for men, right?
	Of course.
	Yeah, of course, of course.
	For the forced feminization of men, Dennis.
	Where have all the Van Wilders gone?
	Yeah, where have all the seven-year college guys gone?
	They have podcasts now.
	That's true.
	And so we're actually at the top of the crest then, boys.
	Uh-oh, it's about to get weak.
	But you mentioned this earlier, Byron, that you thought they would spin it with guys going to college is actually a good thing, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And you're not wrong.
	It's easy to see why men are less likely to go.
	I mean, for one thing, they're noticing all of these things.
	And it's not like university systems are going out of their way to bring men on board, quite the opposite.
	And why would a young man want to go into an environment like that where he's going to be demonized and all that for four years?
	Why would you want to do it?
	Universities tend to be a very hostile environment for young men in a lot of different ways.
	They just canceled ass honking class.
	They installed more emergency phones on campus.
	Dennis, you've been listening to a lot of this Mr. Walsh here.
	Can you ever talk about the Supreme Court's decision about ending affirmative action?
	I believe he has.
	I haven't heard him talk about it personally, but I also don't know it that well.
	I generally turn it off after about 10 minutes.
	Sure, it's really hard to keep those things.
	This was one of the first episodes that I endured of the whole thing, and my wife, she came in and she was like, how can you handle this?
	It was so painful.
	College is such a hostile environment for young men, for young white men specifically.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I don't even know what he's talking about, but I went to one semester of art school, so I have no real experience.
	Yeah, you dropped out because society doesn't support you.
	That's true.
	I went to street college.
	But then he goes on to talk about things that many people probably agree with, all of us included probably, that there's lots of these jobs that just require degrees for bullshit reasons, right?
	That you don't need this degree for whatever job, but they're like, you need a degree.
	But he has the thing that will solve all the problems for us.
	I think that this is a good take.
	But what do we do about it?
	The only way to stop it, the only way to change it, is for fewer and fewer people to attend college, which means more and more people, more and more young people, more and more like the next crop of young workers who are going out into the world, for them to not have a college education.
	And then things have to change at that point.
	Things have to start to change.
	That's right.
	His strategy is just boycott college out of protest, man.
	Hold though, during COVID, elementary school kids basically got dumber, right?
	Because they had to wear masks.
	Yeah.
	Correct.
	But it's totally fine to sacrifice the education of a couple years worth of adult men.
	Yeah, of course.
	Well, I mean, the thing is, is that you have to do that because that makes it so that these companies don't demand degrees for stupid reasons.
	If you remove all the education, then their only option left is to hire dumb people.
	Okay.
	Checkmate.
	Well, great.
	Checkmate hospital.
	Thank you.
	I mean, he talked about, like, obviously there's things that require college education.
	There's plenty of stuff that doesn't.
	And he's not wrong, right?
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, the barrier to entry is... It's high.
	And I can say that as none of us have college degrees, I don't think.
	You have one, Jared?
	Well, I do from SCU, Street College University.
	Okay, cool, cool, cool.
	And I have one from Hustlers University, from Andrew Tate.
	Good, good, good.
	The thing is that we all agree that there's plenty of jobs that ask for degrees that are required.
	But at the end of the day, education is not a bad thing.
	It's just another conspiracy, you know?
	It's big college out here to try and hustle men and make the men dumber so that women can then overtake the men.
	Well, why are we fucking talking about this?
	Because you're a white man, Byron.
	You need to understand that you're marginalized.
	You need to take the sciences back.
	You need to do better math like Matt Walsh.
	That Matt math.
	We gotta read better these days.
	STEM was after my My time in street college, I don't... Science, technology, engineering, mathematics, so it's not even English.
	Oh, okay, okay, okay.
	Yeah, reading is boring anyways, so, like, don't do that, and start working with your hands with electricity.
	But this is another story where he wraps it up.
	He gets upset, he gets people riled up, and then he's like, moving on, right?
	I just don't think he needs to be upset, because this is what they wanted.
	Yes, of course.
	Well, the thing is that he wants the listeners because he says these points that they agree with and then they tune back in because they get that dopamine rush of getting agreed with.
	The next thing that he talks about is this clip from a show, a guy named The Saint and the Sinner.
	Have you heard of this guy?
	No, I haven't.
	He went to Romania to see Andrew Tate and Andrew Tate couldn't talk to him or something.
	Wait, why?
	One of the guys from Event Sevenfold.
	No, no, they should be, right?
	I've never heard about the show until I saw it on Matt Walsh's show.
	Sure.
	And I think we'll see more of him if you and I explore it.
	Is this two folks?
	Sean and Andy?
	I don't know.
	Oh.
	It could be.
	Yeah.
	The Saint, maybe one of them, and the Sinner's the other.
	Yeah.
	Saint and Sinner type of names.
	Sean and Andy.
	So Matt shows a clip from their show that's talking about sex workers, and they're interviewing a couple, I think, OnlyFans models on it.
	I want to be clear that on this one, I cut up his clip a little bit, and kind of pieced it together, which, funny thing for Matt Walsh's show, he has so many pauses and ums, it's so easy to just string shit together.
	Yeah, dude, it's hard.
	I cut it up and I pieced it together, not to take anything out of context, but just to remove some repetition, because he repeated stuff a whole bunch, the same kind of points.
	Though, what he was repeating was like the shittiest parts of what he was saying, so I'll let that be clear.
	Wait, so these guys are just Maniverse guyses?
	Is that right?
	Yeah, and I did have the wrong saint and sinner, by the way.
	This is Marquette Devon.
	Okay, I don't know who that is.
	Different guy.
	Oh, that's who I found, too.
	Not Sean and Andy.
	Okay.
	And also, one thing I did here is I flip-flopped this.
	In the show, he played the clip and then he reacted to it.
	I want to play the reaction first for you guys.
	Great.
	So that you guys can maybe think about what this guy might actually be saying, right?
	Kind of anticipate what you think he's responding to.
	So here's his take first.
	There could be some real value to it because the most interesting thing about that clip is what he was saying and then you look at the girl sitting right next to the girl that he was talking to.
	A look of utter and total shock on her face.
	She's shocked to hear this.
	And all he's basically saying is that this is degrading, you're selling your body, you're turning your body into an object for sale.
	But you look at their reaction, it's like they've never even heard anyone say that.
	And now just like this basic reality is shocking to people.
	So you can have these girls that get into quote-unquote sex work And apparently it's like they've never even heard anyone tell them that, hey, you know, this is, you actually shouldn't do this.
	Okay.
	You're, you're worth more than that.
	Just selling off your body parts is a bad thing.
	You're worth more than that.
	You shouldn't do this.
	And you can only sell them once because you only have like one arm.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You can only sell one kidney.
	It sounds like this person was being chivalrous and being like, hey listen, you know, you should respect yourself, you should understand that you have a lot of value to bring to the world, and you shouldn't be doing things that's hurting you.
	That's kind of like what he's implying, right?
	Okay.
	Let's hear what the actual clip said.
	A lot of things will be hard for you to comprehend, that's why you're in sex work, because you can't offer value in the marketplace.
	Don't worry, I'm not really talking to you.
	I'm speaking against you as a symbol.
	A symbol of what?
	A symbol of a declining society where people lack values.
	So the point is this.
	If you had IQ and skills to offer to the marketplace, you can earn a good income.
	Being that the most valuable thing about you is something that you never earned.
	You didn't earn knowledge.
	You didn't earn skills.
	It's your breasts that you paid for and your butthole.
	So you market that To earn money.
	Which is to say, if I took your brain and placed your brain into a man's body, you would be in poverty.
	I'm just good for nothing.
	Yep, you comment.
	No, you are good for something.
	That's why you have OnlyFans.
	And that's my point.
	Is that that's what you're good?
	When that music goes straight Joker mode, oh, it's so Sigma that was crazy. Oh my god
	That was his reaction to that clip.
	That guy was just being a fucking asshole.
	The saint and the sinner was like being kind to her about the thing he disagreed on?
	That's how Matt was implying it.
	Like he was like, like this girl's too fucking stupid to realize she has value.
	That guy was telling her she was stupid.
	He was telling her that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he was saying, listen, the only thing that matters about you is your body.
	That's all he was saying about that person.
	Yeah, he's slaying butthole.
	It's the most mind blowing thing that that's his take on it.
	It's just such this like, you know, oh, you know, women need to be saved by men and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	But then this guy just is demeaning.
	Can you even believe that no one, no one ever told her that she didn't have to do this?
	Brother.
	The whole thing about showing your toddies in your b-hole for money is that you're showing your toddies in your b-hole for money.
	Yeah, you're in control.
	It's the autonomy of it.
	Yeah, it's like you're not... No one needs to be told that that's what they're doing when that's what they're doing.
	And if it's your... Well, you didn't know that that's like illegal in my traditional values?
	You didn't know that you didn't have to do that?
	It's like a very like...
	What the fuck do you think I've been doing for the last... I have more money than you, Matt Walsh!
	You fucking pencil-neck prick!
	I'm doing well and entirely autonomously.
	Totally.
	I can buy your kids out on Christmas.
	You know what I mean?
	Totally.
	There are people I know who do full-time OnlyFans, and they just travel the world, and then they just film it, and then they make money to travel the world and do whatever the fuck they want.
	Sex work is the oldest profession.
	Isn't that what's said about it?
	That's what Matt Walsh said earlier, too.
	Right, so he says he understands this, but this guy that he's Andy or whoever the fuck, this clown with his... It's Marquee.
	It's not Sean and Andy.
	It is Marquee.
	It is Marquee.
	Okay, all right.
	So I was looking at the right guy.
	So Marquee is, you know, just turned 21, had his first beer, and then realized that sometimes women... It honestly just sounds like he's mad that he can't be doing this.
	You know, he even says it himself on the back end of that clip, if you were a man, you would be impoverished for doing this.
	And it's like, that's actually like not true either, because like, there's a lot of dudes that show their buttholes all day.
	Straight dudes too, you know, you can make money doing this.
	There is a market for everybody.
	Just to have figured that out or thinking that this is somehow, I don't know, new.
	It's very funny to me.
	I think what I hate most about this is that Matt Walsh has this like, I need to save this woman, right?
	Yeah.
	Hey, listen, if only you had the right guidance, you wouldn't do this.
	You would be in STEM, right?
	But that's bad.
	That's bad.
	So don't go to college.
	Let the men go to college.
	But then he does the opposite.
	He like reduces a woman's worth to just her body.
	I was hoping you were going to say that he does the opposite and he's like, dudes, we need to start showing our buttholes more on the internet.
	And at college.
	Not at all.
	Buttholes at college.
	He talks about Jennifer Love Hewitt.
	She was recently interviewed and she said on this interview, I was told I was sexy before I even knew what sexy was.
	I was 17 years old on the cover of Maxim.
	I know I'm supposed to be this thing for people, but I don't know what that means.
	Right?
	So he should be proud of her that she recognized that she had worth beyond her body.
	You would think.
	Right?
	Does he?
	Of course not.
	As for the rest of it, you know, we see a lot of this kind of thing these days.
	You've got these actresses.
	It seems like every month there's another one.
	Another actress.
	Go off, man.
	Who was popular in the 90s or early 2000s or before that.
	Now in their 40s and 50s and 60s, turning around and claiming that they feel violated because they were quote-unquote sexualized when they were in their 20s.
	Like, they're going back and complaining about everything that made them a star.
	Ah, the good old days.
	Yeah, right?
	Yeah, the things that we're trying to get back to, right?
	Yeah, right?
	It's like, it's obviously a shit take, but he continues on.
	She says that she was 17 years old on the cover of Maxim.
	Well, that's not right.
	There should be 17-year-olds on the cover of Maxim.
	But then she's talking about being a full-grown adult, being like 23 and 25, and complaining about the fact that people appreciated her good looks.
	It's kind of ridiculous, and it does have the feeling of someone who's maybe a little bit bitter about the fact that they've lost some of those looks, I guess, and they've lost some of their youth.
	Now, Jennifer Love Hewitt, still a very attractive woman.
	Women in their 40s can be very attractive, obviously.
	Not that I'm into that kind of thing.
	Wait, what?
	First of all, I do want to say the late 90s early 2000s extremely exploited an industry with music in film.
	Yes, her point is not that people found her attractive and that bothered her.
	No, it was the industry was marketing and that she was advertised as that was her worth.
	Yeah, that's her issue and not that she had any control exactly It's it's that and it's like he equates Jennifer Love Hewitt to the sex workers that Women aren't allowed to say I don't want to be treated in a certain way And that's kind of like he elaborates more on that But what does it mean for an adult woman in her 20s to be quote-unquote sexualized?
	What does that mean exactly?
	Now I think usually it's used like interchangeably With objectified and so they say sexualized and really what they mean is kind of like objectified and again that is something that does happen.
	Women who are prostitutes as we just saw are being objectified and objectifying themselves.
	If you're in pornography you are being objectified and you're objectifying yourself.
	He can't fathom that the autonomy of it is what matters.
	Yeah.
	The consent of it is what matters.
	He doesn't get that.
	Hey, I had sex with you yesterday.
	Why can't I have sex with you today?
	Yeah.
	Also that he's like going in on people like Jane Fonda, you know what I mean?
	Like for doing, uh, what was the movie?
	Barbarella.
	This was like a big gripe that I remember from that is that she was like, you know, it was like one of the first movies that she had done.
	And they were like, we're going to show your toddies off in this Jane.
	And then like later on in her career, she was like, it was pretty unnecessary.
	And then you go watch the movie and it's like, why are her tits out?
	This is a very valid thing that people of that generation have come to call out for current actresses and actors and stuff.
	Let's not do this unnecessary shit if we don't have to, to make a whole meal out of this as your segment.
	Women in their 40s are not that attractive.
	I mean, I think she's attractive, though.
	All he went on is he went on this weird rant about how women shouldn't be able to make their own decisions about their bodies.
	Yeah, the Saint and the Sinner said some really gross shit, and he wanted to air that.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I don't even know why he played that.
	It's so strange.
	And then he went on this crazy rant trying to compare, you know, Jennifer Love Hewitt saying, I don't want to be sexualized just because I was an attractive teenager, to sex work is bad.
	I don't know what the fuck he goes on this rant about, but it's derogatory towards women, so he's into it.
	Yeah, he's a fan.
	I don't think that he's meant to have people listen to it and then...
	This is not meant for us to be talking about a thing.
	It's supposed to be like one ear out the other.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	This isn't fair.
	What are you guys doing breaking this down?
	So he wraps up a little bit talking about Jennifer Love Hewitt, his thoughts around this.
	And that is not sexualizing.
	And that is also not objectifying.
	You're not turning someone into an object.
	Like if Jennifer Love Hewitt was in a movie when she was 25, people watched it and said, well, she's an attractive woman.
	It's not sexualizing.
	No one is denying your humanity.
	They're just simply noticing that fact.
	Wait, isn't that sexualizing?
	And now it's kind of retroactively going back and saying, this is a terrible thing and you should feel guilty for it.
	It's all, while at the same time, again, praising sex workers.
	It's all, it's just a whole jumbled mess of confusion.
	It's not.
	This is who we're referring to, that she was 17 on there?
	Yeah, no, he's saying that when she was 17, that's inappropriate, but a couple days later, when she's 18, abuse is fine.
	Totally fine.
	Totally good.
	Because she's an adult.
	She can say no when she's 18, but she can't when she's 17, according to the rules of Walsh.
	Walsh's rules.
	But it's just a classic like, yeah, mad fact.
	It's not, it's not confusing at all.
	Let women make their own decisions.
	Yeah.
	Put women and people in an environment that they feel comfortable enough to speak out against mistreatment.
	Period.
	That's simple.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	I'm going to do you guys a little bit of favor and skip over a part of his show where he just responds to YouTube comments about Trump in Colorado.
	Oh, cool.
	Cool.
	I just don't feel like breaking it down because we got too much shit to worry about.
	Of course.
	But we gotta get back to the anti-feminism shit he's talking about.
	Right, I'm sick of all these women.
	Sick of all these women, period.
	He has this thing called Daily Cancellations.
	I don't even know how to describe it, but he plays videos of people who like will cancel somebody or somebody getting cancelled.
	Sure.
	First he talks about this video, and in this video it's a girl who went on a date with a guy that she normally wouldn't go on a date with.
	The conservatives seem to find it quite encouraging.
	They see it as a sign, perhaps, of good things ahead for the culture as we enter the year 2024.
	My take, as you might expect, is not quite that optimistic.
	I'll explain, but first let's watch the video.
	Here it is.
	Guys, I went on a date this week, and I felt the feminism leaving my body.
	I live on the east side of LA, and if you don't know what that means, it's sort of like the artsier part of LA, you know?
	People say it's like Brooklyn and New York.
	So I go on dates with a lot of men and women who, you know, live over here.
	There's always a negotiation about who pays, and that's great.
	I like to pay for people, all that.
	He loves it.
	But what I will say...
	Is that I sort of fell into going on a date with the most guys guy I've ever been on a date with and he's from West West, you know, Santa Monica.
	He's a bro, right?
	A guys guy is usually not my type.
	Like I cannot remember the last time that I went on a date with like a straight bros bro, you know what I'm saying?
	But it befell me, it befell me in an organic fashion.
	So I'm on this date with this guy and the thing about a guys guy is he's putting his card
	down he's paying for everything and I really just,
	it sort of activated something feral in me, I'm not gonna lie.
	We went to like another bar and he went, he was gonna go to the bathroom
	so I was getting prepared to pay for our drinks he's been paying all night of course I'm gonna pay for the
	next round But as he's going to leave for the bathroom He turns to me and he hands me his credit card and he goes here's my card get us whatever
	It might be time for me to get away from all these, you know, liberal snowflakes on the east side.
	Right, so that's the video.
	Okay.
	And obviously it's a long clip.
	Sorry for the long clip.
	No, I don't care.
	That was a journey I was into.
	We were having fun.
	You know, it's just a girl sharing that... My take from that clip is that she's kind of realizing that when people like dote on her and pay for her, that feels good.
	It feels good.
	You know what I did today, this morning?
	Saturday morning, I went grocery shopping with my partner.
	Yeah?
	You know who paid?
	Who?
	She did.
	Dude, really?
	Sometimes it feels good.
	I got two jumbo Hass avocados in there I didn't pay for.
	Nice, nice.
	What are you going to do with them?
	Put a little cream cheese down or what?
	I don't know, maybe.
	I don't like avocados.
	A little toast?
	Yeah, I was going to just have it with a pinch of sea salt for breakfast, honestly.
	I love that.
	Very good.
	It feels nice to have people pay for you sometimes.
	Of course it does.
	That's it.
	Absolutely.
	Well, that's a pretty beta take on it.
	When she says, When he popped his card out and she was feeling a little feral, I was like, girl, I get it.
	I'm down bad too.
	Matt focuses on the most important part of it first, I think.
	We definitely should address this right away.
	As this can be for me, I'm not going to get hung up on minutiae here.
	The phrase, it befell me in an organic fashion is Not really English and doesn't make any grammatical sense.
	And if I was single and someone uttered that sentence on a date in my presence, I would leave and never call again.
	And I also wouldn't pay, but... What a fucking loser.
	Yeah, a complete fucking loser take.
	And it befell me in an organic fashion is grammatically correct.
	A thousand percent.
	That's very funny to me.
	It's so funny because it is absolutely grammatically correct.
	He's like confidently incorrect here.
	It just means the interaction happened naturally.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	It felt comfortable.
	It happened without resistance.
	It fucking means something.
	It's not grammatically incorrect.
	And I just love how he started off with being like, uh, actually, you didn't use those words correctly, man.
	Sounds like a guy who went to college, if I'm being honest.
	Yeah, right?
	Sounds like a guy with a degree, maybe.
	Yeah, he didn't do the E in STEM, it sounds like.
	You know, obviously, like, whatever.
	It's just, it's, he didn't want to make a deal out of it, but he obviously did.
	That's why he made a deal out of it.
	Of course.
	He wanted to make a deal out of it.
	But let's hear his take on the video.
	If I must be the guy who always finds the dark cloud inside the silver lining.
	What the fuck does that mean, man?
	It's hard not to notice that right now she only appears to be excited about the fact that the guy paid for everything.
	That's what she said.
	Yeah, she's discovered a strange new respect for a guy's guy, as she calls him.
	At this point, all of that respect is based around the fact that she didn't have to pay for her own food or drinks.
	That's all she's talking about.
	If she is awakening to the bleak realities of feminism, so far she has only noticed that feminism is expensive for women.
	And indeed, it is, in just about every imaginable way.
	Right, a little, nice little jab, you know?
	A little button on that.
	Yeah, yeah, of course, but it's... Feminism isn't just about who pays for shit, Matt.
	No.
	Like, it's definitely not.
	Yeah, but let's be clear, like, only the man's man is gonna be out here throwing down the card, you know?
	Yeah, of course.
	Only the bro is gonna be doing that.
	Like, I don't think... These weak soy boys trying to pay for, what, a tofu meal?
	I doubt it.
	Yeah, right, exactly.
	Matt thinks that the only way to be a man is to pay for shit.
	Yeah.
	Like that's not, that's not what being a man even is.
	But it also like feels kind of nice when you can pay for something too, you know what I mean?
	No, you know what?
	I'm glad you mentioned that.
	All that is just showing that you care about someone enough that you want to take care of them.
	That's it.
	Okay, you're like, I'm sure we can all relate to this at some point.
	We're like, you're out on a date, like a first date with somebody and you're just like, Maybe, maybe not.
	Maybe not everyone's had this, but you're out and you're like, money is no object.
	Let's just like, have fun, do the thing.
	You're going to hang out with somebody.
	You don't need to spend like gobs and gobs of cash, but you can throw down $100 or $200 on a date or something like that.
	That's like, because you can, like, that's fun.
	And it's, I don't, you know, if you can't do that either, you can also do a very easy day, throw very little, like, you know, 20 or less, like, hanging out with people is not expensive and it's not expensive to get to know somebody so that it's like the whole concept is like what what are you comfortable doing and if you're uncomfortable spending this money you're soy and if you are comfortable for it you're the man's man and like Matt Walsh wants to
	Also be taken out on a date by you.
	Honestly.
	Well, that's the, that's the whole point is that when you equate the concept of care to spending money, it's materializing the concept of care for somebody.
	Yes.
	And in this video, she's just saying, Hey, it feels nice when someone takes care of you.
	Who do you think created this segment first?
	Steven Crowder's taking TikTok too seriously or Matt Walsh?
	Because this doesn't matter.
	This is just someone did a TikTok after a date and he's extrapolating so much from And she's not truly saying, I'm going to abandon feminism.
	She's not saying that at all.
	That was as snarky as half the things we say.
	She's just being sarcastic about it.
	She said, listen up lib boys, if you want to take me out, I know someone just kind of raised the bar a little bit on you.
	I was getting too comfortable with you art school nerds.
	You guys are cool, but...
	Here's what I'll say.
	Jared, you mentioned earlier that it feels good to pay for somebody.
	Yeah.
	I think that's a bunch of bullshit, and I think Matt might disagree.
	Darn it.
	She says at the beginning of the video that usually there's a negotiation about who pays, and she says, that's great.
	I like to pay for people.
	That's obviously nonsense.
	She doesn't like to pay.
	Not on behalf of a man, anyway.
	No woman does.
	None.
	Okay, I mean, it's one thing if it's like a gift, if it's a present, to take him out for his birthday, but generally speaking, women don't, they don't like paying for a man as a general principle on a date.
	But it's different for men.
	I actually do like paying whenever I'm out with my wife.
	I like buying her nice things.
	I like the feeling of providing for my wife and kids.
	That's a masculine thing.
	Men feel better about themselves when they're being masculine.
	So, you know, that makes sense.
	Women don't enjoy the masculine role, even if they pretend they do.
	What?
	Yeah, so here's the thing.
	As a man, women don't.
	Yeah.
	He knows so much.
	His take is that clearly she's lying because she's a woman, right?
	She would never want to provide for her partner, ever.
	And any woman that would, yeah.
	And it's just, the problem here is that Matt is equating masculinity to being a provider, implying that only men can be providers.
	That's just patently wrong.
	It's incorrect.
	And I can tell you right now that when my wife pays for our dates, she feels really good about it.
	And she's probably lying about it too because she's a woman.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But it's fine because, I mean, I make the rules anyway.
	King of the castle.
	King of the castle.
	It's just, it's such a shitty take.
	I don't know how many people he dated on eHarmony before he landed with his wife.
	He was a plenty of fish guy for fucking sure.
	Actually did meet his wife on eHarmony.
	Oh, he's dated folks.
	Oh, man.
	One star review for eHarmony.
	Obviously not enough women.
	Digital age.
	Well, maybe a lot, because he seems to know a lot about how women feel.
	Yeah, you know, I think that we should probably explore what it means to be a man and what it means to be a woman.
	I think that he'll help us with that, I think.
	Good.
	To put the question more bluntly for her, You want a man who pays, fine.
	But, are you also willing to drop the feminist girlboss **** and be the kind of woman that the man who pays actually wants?
	So, staying in the realm of meals here for a second.
	You can think about this one.
	You like how it feels when he pays for your dinner at a restaurant.
	Yum yum.
	Okay.
	But how would it feel if you made him dinner at home?
	If the thought of him paying for dinner makes you all warm and fuzzy, but the thought of you preparing him a plate fills you with feminist rage... I'm gonna leave.
	Well then, the feminism really hasn't left your body at all.
	Like in that case, you're just cheap, but you're still a feminist.
	The reason why your clock is going off and it's pissing you because that's your place is in the kitchen.
	Not his.
	I think the take on this really pisses me off because he equates a man buying a woman a meal with a woman making a man a meal.
	In a kitchen.
	In a kitchen.
	When in reality, the equivalent is a woman buying a man a fucking meal.
	Or a man making a meal in a kitchen.
	Yes, exactly.
	You can't draw some false equivalence of women belong in the kitchen making food and men belong buying you shit.
	That is the most shitty take.
	He doesn't mention at all that like the man could make the dinner as well.
	I love cooking.
	I'm terrible at it.
	I'm so bad at it.
	I'm thankful my wife is a chef.
	At the end of the day, it's all about consent in the relationship.
	Balance and preference.
	Yes!
	There's no more you need to say about it.
	Gender roles, they're just this arbitrary social construct that we've made up.
	Let's hear his take on it though.
	And it does demonstrate a fundamental truth, which is that gender roles are not arbitrary social constructs.
	They are embedded deeply in our human nature.
	It's how we are made.
	Modern history in the West is nothing but the story of people trying desperately to escape their own nature, trying to suppress and hide from the deepest, most inescapable truths of who they are.
	It's the story of us looking at how the world was worked for millennia, how men and women have related to each other since time immemorial, and saying, no, all that is wrong.
	We know better.
	We'll show you guys how it's done.
	I mean, honestly, I remember in 100 BC when men bought women drinks.
	Exactly.
	It's been like this ever since.
	The creation of Amex.
	I hate it so much because if you think about like, compare us to plenty of other animals.
	There's plenty of animals where like the women are strong and the men are looking pretty to try and court the women.
	Like it's just a bunch of bullshit.
	If somebody wants to provide for somebody else, regardless of their gender, Do that if you want to do it and if it will make you feel
	good.
	We're not just animals, right?
	We're not.
	We're divinely put here by the creator.
	Yeah, no, no, no, no.
	Well, I'm just saying.
	The reason I like finishing up with this clip of Matt is that it shows
	that he takes these little things and just balloons them into these huge things.
	He's talking about the history of our species.
	Because somebody said, I like when men buy me dinner.
	Modern Western history.
	That's true.
	Western history specifically.
	Gotta make sure that that's very important.
	I mean, that's kind of like where he wraps up the show and he talks about fucking Rough Greens or whatever.
	What?
	His sponsors.
	Oh, Rough Greens?
	I hate it.
	He couldn't get the AG one.
	He got, he had rough grains, which is like some hilarious, like you like sprinkle some stuff on dog food.
	It's like vitamins for your dogs.
	But I've been eating it too, folks.
	But I don't know if I can listen to another episode of his show.
	I usually turn it off so quickly.
	I'll hit play and then I'll get to the time that the intro music starts and I'm like, I'm done.
	I can't deal with this shit.
	And this was really hard because obviously he's a misogynist, terrible racist Yeah, one of the most transphobic people world-renowned transphobe.
	I don't know who won 2023 yet But that's as far as I could get in this fucking show It was obviously we were at the end But I couldn't I couldn't bear to listen to another minute of it And I'm thankful that he decided to end it with this hyper focused rant on what it means to be a man at fucking Applebee's or whatever Damn, dude.
	I want my baby back, Rips.
	Why did I come all the way to tell the police?
	I want my baby back in the kitchen.
	Yes.
	That's what I have for today.
	I wish that I could end it on a more positive note, but... Dude, welcome to my fucking life.
	Yeah, Jesus, man.
	This is terrible.
	Interesting.
	I welcome your break from Matt Walsh, but... We'll have more.
	We'll have more of these for sure.
	I'm thinking this won't be the last White Walsh.
	No, I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	I'll hear a show that really makes you mad and I'll get riled up about it.
	Dennis, thanks for telling us who this mad guy is.
	I really appreciate it.
	Thanks for allowing me the opportunity to endure.
	And do we have any workman's comp to cover my medical bills from slamming my head on the desk?
	No, it hurts.
	Welcome to the pain.
	And welcome to 2024.
	Yeah, 2024, we're here.
	Hopefully it's less shitty than the last year.
	I think it's gonna be a good year.
	I think so too.
	Thanks so much for all the ratings and reviews on iTunes.
	We really appreciate that.
	Find us on X, at Dan Crowder.
	I think we might be trying to get a Blue Sky because it seems that Blue Sky is a Twitter X alternative.
	Oh a lot of people have been you know enjoying.
	What about Threads?
	Threads is dead.
	Threads is the weirdest most transphobic place I've ever been on the internet.
	It's so bizarre like I held out for so long to like look at it but they kept pulling me in with they give you the little blurb on Instagram now so I clicked on it and I was finally just like Fine.
	I'll sign up for Threads.
	I'll do it.
	And then, so the first thing I saw was just people being like, being a man is okay.
	Being white is even better.
	Nice.
	LGBTQ is a brain disease.
	Trans is a brain disease.
	And I was like, what?
	I have not interacted with a single person on here.
	Why is this the mode of operandi over here?
	I'm just like, okay, well, I think I'm done with Threads.
	Well, the worst is you can't delete it without deleting your Instagram.
	Perfect.
	So I'm there forever.
	Welcome to Threads, Jaren.
	Louder than Crowder.com.
	Louder with Crowder.net.
	And until next time, folks, for Jaren.
	Hey, take it easy.
	And Dennis.
	I hated this.
	I bet.
	I'm Byron.
	Take care.
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