Sept. 16, 2019 - Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett
06:30
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Can you tell me how many lives maybe are killed due to firearms?
Three million a year.
That's how many people die every year?
Three million.
Yeah.
What is it about guns that you think is legal to have on this state?
Hi sir, how are you?
I'm great.
I know you were begging for my fiance's attention here with your sign.
Tell me about it.
Tell me about it.
No, I'm great.
You want to tell my fiance about it?
Why don't you tell the camera about it?
Oh no, I'm doing pretty good actually.
I'm actually just like trying to like just talk to people about the fact that gun laws do save lives.
Like the guy in Maryland, right?
The red flag gun law.
Actually, we don't like using the term red flag gun laws.
We prefer the term extreme risk protection orders.
That didn't save his life.
See, I'm actually here on behalf of the people, um, the Latinx community, especially in El Paso.
Um here's the thing.
So I know who you are.
I'm cool with it.
I know we disagree on some certain issues.
Even if you weren't cool with it, I guess I don't care.
Oh no, no, it's totally cool.
I mean, I know we disagree fundamentally on issues, but like I don't really want to start anything.
So why not?
You want to convince me you don't want to change my mind?
Not your mind.
Why don't you want to try to change my mind?
Um just not worth it.
Thank you.
It's not worth it.
Thank you.
Not worth it.
Why?
I'm one of the biggest advocates for gun rights in the country, and you don't want to change my mind?
You don't want to change my mind?
I'm good.
How old are you?
I am 19.
That's sad.
I'm one of the biggest advocates for gun rights in this country.
I'm known as the gun girl.
So why wouldn't you want to try to change my mind?
That's very interesting because it's somebody that got shot.
Well, I'm sorry.
I got shot, so I'm just trying to figure out like why are you so good about guns?
Like, what is it about guns that you think is legal to have on this state?
What is it about guns that you think is legal to have on this state?
Is it about guns that you think is legal to have on this state?
Well, the second amendment and my God given right to defend myself says that I have that right.
So what about so what about the kids that got killed last year because somebody had a gun and they got shot?
Wasn't supposed to have it, illegally was sold to them, and I gotta say that you can defend themselves a little bit.
You were really defend you're really defending I am a victim of getting shot as well.
Are you gonna let me talk?
So you just absolutely dismantled the gun law argument that we need gun laws.
You just sat there and said that he got it illegally, he wasn't supposed to have it.
So what's your argument?
No, I didn't say all of that.
You wouldn't even let me talk.
So when you're done talking, let me know that I can talk, and then we can go ahead and swap.
So every year up to three million lives are saved due to defensive use of firearms.
That is found by the CDC.
Obama actually ordered the CDC to do an investigation and they found that three million lives are saved every year due to defensive use of firearms.
Can you tell me how many lives maybe are killed due to firearms?
Three million a year.
That's how many people die every year?
Three million.
Yeah.
I'm gonna give you one more chance because think about like how many people are in the country and then three million every year are dying.
I'm being sarcastic, sweetheart.
Okay.
I'm being sarcastic if you didn't realize it, but okay.
Next question.
Well, uh that was the question.
Do you have an answer?
Next question.
I said I gave you an answer.
I asked you, did you have another question?
Do you have a real answer?
Like I just gave you a real answer.
Okay, so it wasn't sarcasm.
I just gone back and forth.
I saw you how you disrespecting one of my colleagues and I'm just like, are you serious right now?
Like, do you know?
No, you got mad about firearms.
Do you know how many people die every year due to firearms?
When it's illegally used?
No.
Firearm homicides, deaths.
How many are used?
Are we done here?
Do you have an do you have an answer?
I don't have nothing to say because I just told you that I see too many kids getting shot, and you can't even ask that tell me how you feel about that.
I think it's terrible.
No kids should be shot.
I've never said that.
I've never advocated for that sentence.
That's a question that I asked you, and you completely ignored it.
I did actually.
I said, what about the kids that get killed every year due to gun violence?
And you're not gonna violence.
That is gun violence.
It's violence.
So when someone gets stabbed, do you call it knife violence?
It was a gun that was used to kill another kid who couldn't even graduate, let alone get married, let alone see his mom.
And that's a terrible situation that I would never advocate for.
So when someone stabs someone else, is it knife violence?
It doesn't matter what type of whatever kind of kind of violence it is, whatever that is done.
Oh, it's just violence.
It's very disingenuous to your argument to call it gun violence when it's just violence.
If you don't call people hanging themselves with rope from suicide, rope violence or stabbings, knife violence, or car accidents, car violence, it's disingenuous and you're insulting my intelligence to think that I was like, sweetheart.
So you never answered my question.
And you never asked me.
No, you didn't.
And we're done here.
Have a good day.
You don't have an answer.
Okay, so I'll go ahead and answer it.
About 13,000 people are killed due to gun homicides, and that includes self-defense, justified shootings, stuff like that.
She's over there saying that I'm insulting her intelligence, but she couldn't answer my question.
I just want to maybe change your mind.
Do I care about change your mind?
Really, no.
Um, but I do like to give my audience here, you guys, a little knowledge about what to say or what to do when you come out here and try to face these people that run on emotions.
So you know the the right to self-defense is my right, it's your right, it's her right, it's her right, it's his rights, everybody's right here.
Emotions don't dictate that.
Emotions don't dictate my right to defend my life.
And they never will, and I will never fall for the emotional argument because it's disingenuous, and what a shame to the kids who lost their lives for her to go out there and use their deaths and walk on their graves to try to push an agenda that she knows nothing about.
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