The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1375 critiques BBC and Telegraph narratives on motherhood as anti-natalist propaganda, contrasting modern isolation with historical communal support. Hosts analyze Mark Levin's extreme rhetoric regarding Judaism and America, while debating the Republican Party's ideological DNA between evangelicals and Christian nationalists. The episode examines the Iran crisis through a Christian Zionist lens, discusses the Trump administration's pivot to H-2A visas suppressing wages, and proposes $20 billion in automation grants. Ultimately, the discussion links rising gas prices, agricultural labor shortages, and demographic shifts to broader cultural and political fractures. [Automatically generated summary]
It's been a while since we've done a live event, isn't it?
I think we should probably do a live event.
So I persuaded the team, guys, we need to do a big live event.
And they were like, that's a great idea.
And why don't we do it at Swindon Mecca, which is where I am right now?
And it's huge.
This is going to be the biggest live event that we have ever actually done.
And I'm really excited about it.
This is actually massive, this haul, but we're going to make it amazing.
So first things first, we're going to have an hour live podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
Then we're going to do a debate on the Star Wars prequels because this has kicked up a lot of controversy.
And I'm sorry.
I'm just not happy.
And I want to put this to bed in a formal debate where I'm going to crush Harry and the forces of subversion.
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If you have a VIP ticket, you'll be able to come and spend a couple of hours after the show hanging out and drinking with us.
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Like I said, all your favorite presenters will be there and it should be great.
And we will also have back issues of Islander on sale because a lot of people have asked us, can we start selling and reprinting Islander?
To which I've always insisted the answer is no.
We cannot reprint Islander.
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Good afternoon, folks.
Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Easters for Monday the 16th of March 2026.
I'm joined by the Forces of Subversion.
I was completely blindsided by that.
This is the first I have learned of it.
You've got my backup, sir.
Hey, I'm going to have to.
I'm going to have to bring it.
We're going to have to invite AA in as the special guest on our side.
He can zip line in like Sean Michaels at Wasser 12.
Special guest star.
All I'm saying is we're having out.
It's going to be going down.
And of course, I'm joined by Ferris.
And today we're going to be talking about the wonderful anti-Mother's Day demoralization propaganda that for some reason, I mean, you understand it when the BBC does it, but when the Telegraph does it, like, what's your endgame?
Then we're going to be talking about the great Zionist panic, which has been just hilarious.
Wild, though, like, the meltdown.
A bit extreme.
And then we're going to be discussing one easy trick to save America, which is more simple than you think.
Honestly, it is.
Anyway, so let's begin.
It was Mothering Sunday on Sunday in Britain.
If you're not in Britain, then it probably wasn't, which is always happy Mother's Day to any mothers watching, of course.
And I hope you all said, you know, that you told your mothers that you appreciate them, you love them, and send them the card and some flowers and stuff like that.
Like I have to do for my mum and my wife for my kids, and you know how it is.
But yeah, so I was just scrolling my timeline.
It's like, oh yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
And then I saw BBC article.
Why mothers regret being mothers?
I was like, yep, typical BBC.
Put that aside.
And I was scrolling, scrolling.
Oh, there's another one.
Why mothers are slaves?
The Telegraph.
So, sorry.
Hello?
Hello?
Is this the Tory Graph is publishing anti-natalist anti-marriage propaganda now?
Checks out.
Yeah, well, yeah, checks out, right?
So we'll have a look at these because it's just quite remarkable.
But before we begin, of course, we have the live event.
If you are watching on YouTube, there will be a link in the description.
It's going to be amazing.
It's in Swindon.
So sorry about that.
But at the end of the day, it's an event.
It's worth it for us.
It's at a venue that I'm reasonably sure we won't get cancelled from.
So that's important.
So that'll be on the 11th of April.
It's going to be huge.
It's going to be amazing.
I'm going to destroy Harry in a debate over the Souls prequels.
It's going to be incredible.
No, he's just going to do Gen X vetching.
Mike from Red Letter Media is going to make a special.
He's not actually going to make a special.
He's going to be.
He's going to be there with you in spirit.
I will be carrying the same old tires.
I will be carrying the Plinket Standard.
I love the way you're underestimating me.
As if I wouldn't go above and beyond.
Oh, I'm sure you'll have some kind of like, I don't know, obloviating, rambling, non-sequitur arguments.
Moving on, let's.
Oh, this is the wrong one, Samson.
Moving on, let's get the right one up and then see what we can talk about.
Right, so here's the BBC article.
I mean, what a headline that is.
Like a trap you can't escape.
The women who regret being mothers.
I would hate for my kids to read something like that that I'd written in the future.
It is clearly intentional demoralization.
Yeah.
And this was published the day before Mother's Day, so you know, thanks, BBC.
You knew that was coming.
How many are single mothers?
How many are interviewed in this article are single mothers?
Because I know that if my missus went and interviewed for an article like this, I would be furious on my behalf and the kids' behalf.
So this suggests either weak and permissive fathers or absentee.
The woman that they're focusing the article around is a woman called Carmen.
I can't actually.
I didn't find that she had any mention of a husband in there.
So I don't know, to be honest.
It's not explicitly stated as far as I can remember.
I was reading it this morning.
But I thought we'd just go through it a bit because you've got here, of course, Carmen loves her 10-year-old son, but if she could turn back the clock, she says she would never have become a mum.
I love him that much, then.
That's horrible, isn't it?
Like, I mean, when you're younger, it's like, oh, what period of time would you like to travel back to?
And my answer always used to be, well, I don't know, you know, like ancient Rome or something, right?
But now I'm like, well, I don't want to travel back in time because I won't have my kids.
So I don't actually want that.
And, you know, it's like, she hasn't changed her perspective on becoming a parent, it seems.
But notice that it's sort of linked to a film that's up for an Oscar nomination, I think.
Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that in a minute.
She says, Motherhood has taken my health, my time, my money, my strength, and my body.
The price is too high, and the cost is forever.
I mean, the whole point of life is to sacrifice yourself for the next generation.
Even without any Christian morality, just every generation does that for the next one.
Literally, every society all throughout history, regardless of their religion, has been focused around raising the next generation.
Because that's literally what humanity is.
That's a prerequisite for survival.
So it's wired into pretty much all mammals.
Yes.
And that's what you're meant to do.
And to go against nature in this way.
But we'll get so you've got the layer of obviously leftist subversion destroying family, which BBC, obviously that's what we'd expect.
But there is actually an authentic issue that comes out through this that we'll go through that I think is actually worth talking about.
And it's the way that our society is geared towards you being an office worker, basically.
And actually, maybe women shouldn't have lives that are geared towards them being office workers with families stapled on the side.
Anyway, like I said, that's the opening of the article.
What a horrible opening.
So Carmen is a teacher.
She's in her 40s and she's part of a hidden community of women who regret being mothers.
This regret is rarely voiced out loud.
The women who contact me would only talk about it on the condition of anonymity, fear of harsh judgment, because their families don't know.
So at least Carmen's 10-year-old son probably won't find out that was her, because obviously that's not a real name.
But she...
I somehow doubt that this is the sort of...
If you're willing to go out of your way to be interviewed for a BBC article about this, I doubt that this is some kind of feeling that won't express itself one way or another in a day-to-day life with her children.
I'm being very judgmental here, but frankly, Carmen, whoever you are, you deserve to be judged for saying something so horrible.
So you know what?
I am actually going to be more sympathetic than this, right?
And that was my first instinct when I first started reading this article.
I was quite angry at Carmen for like being selfish about this.
But I'm actually a bit more sympathetic because, I mean, you know, me and my wife have four kids and it's stressful and you have problems and you know, stuff happens a lot.
It is exhausting.
It is exhausting.
And you're, you, you know, you are constantly thinking in this sort of not, you know, not regretting kids, obviously, but like you're constantly thinking of the family and how everything is and whether they're safe and whether this has happened and bills have been paid and all this sort of stuff.
And it's, you know, it's fine.
It's just what being an adult is.
But I'm quite sympathetic because she doesn't seem to have any support from her husband, right?
And okay, well, that's not great, but maybe, I mean, let's assume she's married.
Maybe he works a lot.
But society itself provides her no support either.
And in fact, we'll get into the Telegraph one where the boomers are expressly called out on this.
Oh, right.
Okay.
So, yeah.
So anyway, as you said, it's focused around an Oscars film.
Now, I didn't even know the Oscars were going on.
You were thinking about covering it, weren't you?
For the podcast today.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't think I've actually seen any of the films.
I didn't even know it was on.
Like, it just made no impact on any of my social media feeds at all.
The most I know is that some film where a black guy murders a lot of white guys.
Oh, yeah.
One best actor for Michael P. Jordan.
And a film that I heard described as anti-further movie swept the Oscars as well.
Well, apparently there was an anti-mother film.
If I had legs, I'd kick you, which is a mother who can't carry on with her family life.
And again, I think that it's important to remember that women are living in the wreckage of feminism at this point, right?
Yes.
Because remember, in the 70s, the feminists, the propaganda from the feminists was literally like, you can have it all, right?
You can be a mother, a successful career woman, a happily married wife.
You can do everything and you should do everything.
You can look gorgeous and sexy with your cigarettes and your makeup.
And you can be going out and doing everything that you think you should be doing because we're telling you that's what you should be doing.
And actually, what women are finding now is, no, this is ridiculous.
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Like, this is such a burden.
And I'm not able to live the life that I'm supposed to be living as an office drone and, you know, sex in the city woman living in that kind of life.
And then also being a parent, which is what, of course, my biological imperatives have dragged me towards.
So I'm finding it really, really difficult.
And of course, Carmen identifies with this film, saying, look, it feels like a trap you can't escape.
It's like, well, yes, I suppose it would if you think you should be doing something else.
That's the thing.
If you don't see it as a generational commitment, it doesn't make sense.
But it is a generational commitment and you're wired to do it.
And I think that there's a line in there that she says, the responsibility to raise a good citizen and a good and happy person.
Yes.
I'm sorry, but the good citizen thing is so abstract, as though the primary loyalty was to the state and to the existing order, as opposed to society that produces the state.
There is something wrong with that framing.
There is.
And also, the level of expectation, again, really, what you want is just to raise healthy and happy children, right?
And so, if your children are well-fed, if they're loved and they're just running around causing trouble, yeah, they're healthy and happy.
And, you know, you're going to be shouting at them for breaking something in the next room, right?
Don't worry.
Like, you know, that's that's the bedrock upon which citizenship can be built.
Exactly.
Right?
If you don't have people who are healthy and happy and feel like they belong where they are because they're loved and they're well taken care of, then all of the rest is irrelevant and you'll never achieve it anyway.
And so this, but look at the level of burden that's been put on Carmen here.
So, oh, no, you alone are responsible for essentially all of society, is what's being pumped into her mind.
It's like, no, that's that's that's crazy, and that's unfair, right?
It's unfair to have done to her optimization on steroids, exactly.
The atomic society only has atomic people in it, and so she's like, God, I feel like I'm on my own and I just can't cope.
And it's like, yeah, I bet you do.
Because the thing is, society these days is very different to how society used to be.
For example, McDonald's is a great example of this.
McDonald's used to be a child's restaurant.
Like McDonald's used to be, literally, every single one would have a big area with like a you know plastic play, like there's trees or something.
I can't remember, you know, Ronald McDonald and all that sort of stuff.
There was a play area in every McDonald's, right?
And the point of it was that your parents would take you to McDonald's and like, right, go play.
Someone else will cook you some food, go play, and I can just relax for a bit, right?
And so you'd have all these kids playing McDonald's, and then, oh, the food's here, great.
You go and eat the food, and the kids would eat, you know, they'd actually eat the food.
And it was a couple of hours where your parents just didn't have this, you know, the burden of making sure that everything was, you know, something they had to worry about.
But that's not what McDonald's is now.
McDonald's now is the most dystopian, grey, soulless thing you've ever seen.
And it's literally, you are a consumer.
Get in, buy your thing, get out.
You know, there's nothing the world is organic about it.
Exactly.
There's nothing organic about it.
But there's also no space for family lives in public life anymore.
Public life is not family focused.
Even in the pubs that are around me, there are less and less pubs with a little playground.
Lots of pubs, you know, we go there because there's a slide and there's some swings, and there's, and that means that we can sit outdoors and I can have a beer and they can run around.
And you can relax, they can have some fun.
Exactly.
And then socialize, talk to people, and the kids are taken care of because you can watch them play.
Exactly.
And that's it.
And this is being slowly taken away.
And it is effectively antinatalist because there are less places that you can take your children to and relax with them.
Well, it's completely antinatalist because the point of this was to take burden off of the mother's shoulders and also provide a communal area where mothers can socialize.
Well, if you take that away, unsurprisingly, mothers are like, oh, right, so I'm just on my own in the house with my kids now.
And what am I supposed to do?
You know, where do I go?
Who do I hang out with?
How do I, you know, how do I share advice and stories and just have sympathy from other mothers who are like, oh, yeah, that happened to me when mine was, she was a bit younger, but you need to do this or whatever.
You know, all of those connections, the social life that was actually involved in it has disappeared.
And what one thing.
And sorry, the less mothers there are, the harder it is for women who are mothers.
Yes.
They need each other.
They need us as their husbands, but they need each other as well.
And so having a smaller pool actually affects them.
Yes.
But now the primary purpose of these women is office drone with a mother attached to it.
Like I saw leftists on Twitter yesterday, arguing, well, why isn't the right arguing for parental leave?
And it's like, because I just think this entire structure is wrong.
I think the entire structure of women expected to be office drones with a family attached is the wrong perspective.
In fact, psychotherapist Anna there says, well, often women feel safe enough to talk about maternal regret.
It isn't a lack of love, but a sense of isolation, exhaustion, or lost identity.
As in, you're trying to be the sex in the city woman with a child.
And that means you're on your own, you're exhausted, and you don't know who you're supposed to be.
It's like, no, when you have children, you aren't that atomic individual who was like going clubbing or whatever.
What you are is part of a family, and that's your identity now.
Your identity is that you are ensconced in this web of relationships, and that's with you forever, and that's the benefit of the family.
And you grow into that identity, and it grows stronger, and it sort of becomes more rewarding as you see your children grow.
And the own, and another thing I want to be clear about here as well.
They speak to a bunch of women in these articles, and the women are not saying they don't love their kids, right?
That's the thing.
It sounds like it, and the BBC kind of frames it that way.
I was going to say, you've made me more sympathetic from how I started, because this is just a dishonesty of framing.
Exactly, right?
The framing is deliberately designed to scare women and not to make them think, well, hang on a second, why isn't our civilization serving us, the people who birth the next generation?
Well, presumably, it's not only to scare women, but it's also to frustrate men like me, except men who would be single who would potentially look at something like this and go, oh, what's the point?
They're not going to appreciate any of it anyway.
If I try and get a woman to start a family with it, she's just going to end up hating it down the line.
That's the other cutting edge of the frame, isn't it?
Whereas the correct thinking process for all of this is that you exist in a network of obligations and service, that you are there to serve others, and in a sense, others are there to serve you, but there is this web of mutual expectations that you're at.
Duties and entitlements.
Everyone has them.
And our civilization used to think we had a duty to mothers to help them raise their children by providing clean and safe social areas.
It is true, though.
One of the things that helps my missus the most raising our daughter is the fact that she does have friends who are mums.
Absolutely.
Who she can speak to and go and spend time with.
One of them's moving closer to us sooner, so that would be really nice.
And hopefully some of our other friends will start having families soon as well.
So with that expectation in mind in the future, I know that she's got something to fall back on when I'm not there.
But if she didn't have that, I can completely understand how the isolation and exhaustion would just completely overwhelm you.
I mean, even with all of the support that we get, I mean, I'm exhausted right now.
Literally, right now, I'm exhausted because, of course, being Mother's Day weekend, I decided to take on a little bit more of the house chores than I normally do and a little bit less of the sleep than I normally do as well.
And this is essentially the perennial problem that underpins all of this sort of messaging that's never actually addressed in the articles.
You know, anyway, she says, and this is another thing as well.
There's a kind of absurd burden of expectation on these poor women that I'm just like, after reading this, I was just like, well, where was your husband say, look, stop worrying about so much, right?
She says here, at first, being a mother was a joy.
Her son was a good sleeper, and she enjoyed spending the days caring for her baby son while on maternity leave.
But then things changed when her son began to display serious developmental delays and every simple moment turned into observation and concern.
I felt so guilty.
I worried that his life would become a fight.
Ultimately, her son was fine and is doing well, but she says the stress and constant worry caused her to develop an autoimmune disease.
Right?
So what happened here?
The answer is nothing.
Nothing has happened.
But because she doesn't have the sort of social structures that you're talking about to reassure her, and again, I don't know whether she's married or not.
Where's her husband to reassure her in all of this?
Was this during lockdown?
As a bloke, you do have to pick up the slack every now and again.
You have to make sure your wife understands everything's fine.
Yeah.
You have to do this.
And so she's shouldering all of this on her own.
Society just isn't set up to help her.
So she's decided, well, it would have been better if I just hadn't done this.
Even though she says she loves her son more than anything.
So it's like, no, we have got the entire civilization back to front here.
We are serving corporate interests and the GDP at the expense of these women.
And they don't realize that this is what feminism has done to them.
It's made you into an office drone.
And you are sat there going, well, I just can't understand why I personally am falling apart and being crushed by this.
It's like because the people who have done this to you are just exploiting you.
Like, you shouldn't be on maternity leave.
You are a mother.
You shouldn't be on the office.
You shouldn't be the 95 office drone anymore.
That's just not your job in life now.
Chesterton had a beautiful line saying that feminism is the illusion that women are liberated by serving their employer rather than helping their husbands.
Yes.
Which strikes it absolutely perfectly.
And it's also the delusion that, you know, biological differences between men and women shouldn't have social implications.
Yes.
Which they obviously do.
It would be very peculiar if they didn't.
Anyway, so this is focused around Carmen joining a Facebook group called I Regret Having Children, which has 96,000 members from around the world, because she found that having a child means finances are tight and all of her goals and ambitions, traveling, setting up a business, building an investment portfolio have been pushed aside.
It's like, who, really, you, when you were a young girl, were like, God, I can't wait to have an investment portfolio.
Like, someone has put that in your mind that you should be doing that.
I don't think it's organic.
And what's your husband doing in all of this?
Anyway, there's not that much data to suggest how many women actually feel this way.
5 to 14%, says one study conducted in Poland.
So actually, not very many women feel this way.
Actually, it could be the 95% of women who have children do not feel this way about their children.
Yeah, the 5-14% of parents in Poland, according to a 2023 study, regret their decision to have children, would opt to be child-free if they had their time again.
Now, I'm going to go out on a limb here, right?
Okay.
I'm sure you've both had this with your wives, where you just go, oh, God, if only we could just have a few days without the kids, we'd get so much done.
We'd be so happy.
We'd have a great time.
We'd be re-energized.
And you get maybe a day or two without them.
Maybe they go off with the grandparents for a weekend or something.
And yeah, you get the energy back, but then by like halfway through the next day, you're like, I wish the kids were here.
You miss them.
Because again, it's all like unfulfilled, idealized expectations.
There's the unfulfilled, idealized expectations of what being a mum and being a parent will be like versus the reality of it.
And then there's the unrealized and unrealistic expectations of what single life will be like if you don't end up having kids as well.
This is all just a matter of expectations and setting them properly.
That's the thing.
The number of women who regret not having children is probably much, much bigger.
Well, we know that's true.
We'll get to the data.
These are all relatively young people as well.
Yeah.
So younger adults, as one psychotherapist from Ireland finds, are approaching the question of having children very differently to older generations.
And I think that's just a natural response to the kind of society they find themselves in.
They find a society that is not in any way geared towards dealing with people who have children.
So what are they supposed to do?
She cautions against buying too readily into the village idea that everyone will pitch in.
The message we generally get is: we'll all be here to mind the baby, but people aren't.
It's your baby and you'll be responsible for them.
So, what she's saying is the atomic civilization has atomic people, and it's exactly the problem that we were talking about.
This is just it would be better if there were mothers' groups under, you know, like again, when I was younger, just it was just normal that everything was completely organic, it was just normal that okay, yeah, there are going to be a bunch of screaming kids in this corner or you know, in the center of the wherever you are, and you just have to plan around that, right?
Yes, you know, at one point, I was one of the screaming kids, and as you grow up, you just write, yeah, no, that's completely normal, and now that just doesn't exist, yeah.
And the other support they're talking about as well is we're very lucky to have very supportive grandparents as well.
If you don't have that, I mean, that's going to be so much extra work on you as well.
Yeah, that's going to be a major problem.
We'll get to that in a minute if that's all right.
Sorry, there's been going a bit longer than I expected, but there's so much here.
Um, anyway, yeah, so uh, it's a lot of these women, uh, as she says a bit further down, uh, she had to go to therapy because she was feeling bitter, right?
And she seeing now that again, I'm very sympathetic to this, right?
She's like, Well, she thinks this feeling of is permanent because the sacrifice is forever.
She's misidentifying the problem, right?
The problem isn't that you have children and that it's difficult, obviously, it's difficult, but the problem is that the society itself, as we've said, is not set up to help you have your children, and so now you feel bitter and you're incorrectly identifying that it's the motherhood part that is the problem.
It's like, no, it's the society itself that has betrayed you, essentially, that is the problem here.
And again, look at the expectation she puts on herself.
She makes time to go to the gym, see friends, and is trying to give herself permission not to strive for perfection.
I'm finally able to say, No, sorry, I'm tired.
I'm going to have an early night.
Have whatever you want.
Oh, daddy's so right.
Okay, so her dad is husband is there.
She has learned that when she does this, the world doesn't implode.
Her son sees that I'm a human being that's not perfect, and he's okay with that.
Of course, he is.
Of course, he's like, Where did she get this idea that she had to be, you know, like tiger mumming it and making it perfect and all this sort of stuff, right?
That's just not something that, again, when I was a kid, any of the women or men around me like seemed to have in their minds.
They were just go outside and play, be happy.
That might have just been something as well that you didn't see from your own perspective.
Because I, I mean, I know women who become mothers and they do kind of have their own expectation.
And I think it's just setting a certain standard for themselves as well, where it's like, I'm going to be able to do this, this, this, and this.
I'm going to have the house the particular way that I like it.
I'm going to do all of these other things as well.
Sometimes people set standards a bit too high for themselves in that way.
Whereas with parenting, it always does have to come down to compromise.
Yes, everything's compromised.
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Anyway, the article ends by her saying, look, when are you happiest?
And she says, it's when she's having a cuddle in bed with her son at the end of the day, is when she's happiest.
And it's like, yeah, normal.
Yeah, exactly.
Completely normal.
So it's not that she doesn't love her child.
It's not that she doesn't love being a mum.
It's that the civilization she lives in doesn't respect and nurture that.
That's what the complaint is here.
Which is a correct complaint, but it's complete misidentification.
And then you've got this one that was published by The Telegraph, which we'll go through a bit more quickly.
But as you can see, I'm fed up of being a slave, the women who regret becoming mothers.
Like, what a genuinely horrible thing.
So this one cites a YouGov poll that found 8 to 17% of respondents wish they hadn't become parents.
But now it's a movement that's growing around this movement.
Okay, well, let's talk about it as a movement.
You're not going to unparent yourself.
So what must you do?
Right?
So yeah, okay, let's say that this is a movement to make, what, civilization more conformable to mothers.
I'm totally up for that.
I am totally up for our civilization being more interested in actually mothers being mothers rather than being office drones.
Because that's what's happening here.
Anyway, there's one interesting bit about Mumsnet in here that I thought was really fascinating.
Mumsnet is also peppered with posts by mums.
Ashamed to be feeling this way.
I'm a single parent of four kids.
I hate it.
Yeah, that can't be easy.
Even though I've helped from my family, I dread the thought of them returning.
is just so fed up being a slave, blah, blah.
But there was...
Not being free, having no identity.
The no-identity thing should be focused on, I think.
Well, exactly.
She's a single mum, though, so, right?
You should be a wife, a mother, a member of your community, and things like that.
And this, I mean, this is a perennial problem where they're just like, well, I wasn't prepared to kind of let myself become a parent.
And then you've got what they call here the rise of intensive parenting, where they have to essentially helicopter parent their kids.
and the thing is I don't know anyone who thinks this way so I don't know who I mean you can just ignore your kids sometimes Yeah.
Go play in the garden.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But yeah, it's totally fine.
But as you can see, feelings of being burnt out, feelings being under pressure, feelings of, you know, whatever.
Yeah, these are all things that are real and matter and need to be addressed.
But I'm looking for the particular bit at the bottom.
They talk about women earning less money as mothers.
Yes.
But here's one interesting bit.
One reason why young mums and dads seem to be finding their experience of parenthood so hard, they say, is because of a lack of support from the boomer generation of grandparents.
As one mother on Reddit writes, many of these grandparents had a lot of help but refused to acknowledge that they had a support system that just isn't there today.
That's the problem.
There we go.
Absolutely nails the point there, that it is literally our society is set up for everyone to be an atomic individual who works in an office and who doesn't think that they have community commitments to their own family, let alone to people in the wide community.
But I've labored that point enough.
Just to be clear though, basically we know that married women with children are actually the happiest women.
These are various studies that have been done.
The numbers are all in, frankly.
Not only are, as you can see there, unmarried and childless, liberal women the least happy people in society, but also conservative women who are unmarried and childless are unhappy.
But weirdly, liberal married mothers are the happiest people in society.
And this is something that has been well known for a while now.
That one's previously.
But I mean, you've seen the subversion.
Here's one for 2019.
Oh, women were happy without children or spouse.
No, they're not.
The data's in.
know what's what the case is uh and as they say in this one from the funny thing go back to that guardian article right the The image that they're using there is of that television program.
It's Lena Dunham, yeah.
Or whatever it was called that if you've ever I've not watched girls But I watched part of that one is my uni flatmate thought it was brilliant I watched, what was it, dirtbag?
Fleabag.
Fleabag, that was what it was called, right?
All of these programs which get plastered on articles like this, if you watch any of them as well, it's about these single women drifting through life with no future, no goals, nothing to work or strive for, no real attachment to the people around them.
And they are constantly miserable.
So even the fictions that they tell themselves about singledom is about how awful everything is, how it makes them feel terrible and behave terrible around them.
So even the propaganda actually is surprisingly honest that you will be miserable.
And just to be clear.
But you'll be independent and free.
But look at the timings on this, right?
So women generally are fairly happy in the 90s and early 2000s, right?
But then look at this weird spike where in 2014, liberal women who are single and childless, unmarried and childless, for a brief period of time thought of themselves as being really happy.
But look at the plummet.
How that plummets down.
But then look at here.
Conservative women suddenly became super unhappy and then super happy at the same time.
So I think that what happened in around the sort of 2012 to 2016 area, I mean, there was, I mean, this is a sort of later edition of it, but there was this kind of left-wing jihad to tell women that, no, you should be happy on your own and completely, you know, you're a girl boss, you know, blah, blah, blah.
That was very prevalent in the culture.
And it seems that women were deeply affected by it, frankly.
But anyway, just to be clear, 40% of married women with children say they are very happy compared to 25% of married childless women, 22% of married childless women, and 17% of unmarried women with children.
So basically, the happiest cohort in society are married women with children.
40% of them say that they are very happy.
That's the best odds you're going to get, just to be clear.
So anyway, we'll leave that there.
Unfortunately, for the sake of time, we're just going to have to move straight on.
Anti-Semitism and Power Politics00:15:28
Let's go.
Yep.
So just a quick reminder, we are having the live event at the Mecca in Swindon on the 11th of April between 7 and 10.
And there's going to be a bunch of fun stuff and then drinks and then more fun stuff.
So please make sure you're there.
It's going to be great.
It is going to be very good.
It seems that there's a bit of a meltdown in Zionist circles, but you wouldn't get that impression from just sort of looking at this tweet here.
Here is Mark Levin celebrating after Trump wrote a great piece of praise for him about him being a true American patriot who's under siege by people with far less intellect, capability, and love for our country.
Mark Levin only just here.
Just quickly remind me who Mark Levin is.
Okay.
Because I'm under the impression that he's a hardcore Zionist podcaster.
So he's a very extreme Zionist podcaster who will accuse anybody who disagrees with some things that the state of Israel does of being planning a Kristallnacht, essentially.
Right, being a Nazi.
So here he is denying that people should have free speech if they disagree with his ideology.
There's a particular quote of his where he says, yes, we do cancel people.
Yes, I think this is the one here where he goes on about this.
We have a president who's leading on the fight against anti-Semitism.
He's got the whole federal government focused on it.
We have federal judges who are undermining us.
We have local and state politicians who are undermining us.
We have a media that's undermining us.
No, never again.
We're going to be heard and we are going to fight this.
Let me be clear about what his priorities are.
No.
About where the priorities of the federal government should be.
You do not have the due process to chase Jewish kids back into their dorm rooms.
Period.
You do not have free speech to try and incite crystalls all over this country, period.
That constitution, those Bill of Rights.
I know who those framers were and those founders were, and they wouldn't put up with this for a damn second.
So he's been losing it for quite some time.
I knew this guy was pretty hardcore, but that is just...
Yeah.
This government is...
Entire government is focused on anti-Semitism.
Entire government is focused on anti-Semitism.
Well, there wouldn't be other problems that one might consider.
When you mentioned that he had said that, yes, we do cancel people...
That was in a famous speech, I think it was last September, where he was talking about Nick Fuentes at the time and Tucker Carlson, where he advocated.
Obviously, you can have your contentions with Nick Fuentes, but Tucker Carlson, he basically said not only should he not have a career, he shouldn't have family and friends, he should get all of the personal people that want to ruin his reputation so much to destroy his family and friendship life, his social life, and also went on to brag that, yeah, we do cancel people and then named people, including Pat Buchanan, Joseph Sobran, and a number of other people.
Basically going back to the- You're absolutely right about everything.
Well, yeah, basically for saying perhaps the foreign lobby that Israel represents has too much power in Washington.
It goes all the way back to, you know, like 92 with William Buckley's In Search of Anti-Semitism.
He basically just listed all of the people that Bookley attacked in that book.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
And here you have him saying that if you reject Judaism, you're rejecting our country.
On America.
Yes.
I mean, if he was saying if you reject Judaism, you reject Israel.
Yeah, okay, obviously.
Yeah. That makes sense.
No, he's got the American flag behind him, and he's saying that it's a rejection of pretty much all of America if you reject Judaism.
And he drones on.
Might be worth listening to him.
We're celebrating our country.
Every July 4th, we're celebrating the principles that undergird our country.
If you reject Judaism and you reject Christianity and you reject the link of the two, you reject the Bible.
If you reject Judaism and Christianity and the brotherhood and the sisterhood of the two, not only are you rejecting our founding, you're rejecting our country.
Just an elementary point on this.
From a Christian perspective, Christianity is the continuation of Judaism, and it's Judaism that rejected Christ.
And you can't have Judaism unless it rejects Christ.
So you can't accept both at the same time.
That's literally why it still exists.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The two are making mutually exclusive truth claims.
And this framing is deeply dishonest, but this is who Mark Levin is.
He's a bit extreme on some things.
How does he feel about the Palestinians?
Well, yes.
He's mentioned that they are Amalek and things of that nature.
Just a quick reminder, who's Amalek again?
Amalek are people in the Bible that the ancient Hebrews were commanded to destroy because of their engagement in human sacrifice.
And the command was to completely destroy them and take nothing from them because part of the lesson there was you are not allowed to fight for material gain.
You should not profit from them in any way and therefore you should destroy them all.
Right.
So being called Amalek isn't exactly what you want.
If you're called Amalek, that's it.
It's kind of over.
And Netanyahu has used this language and a bunch of Israeli officials have used this language and a bunch of Israeli rabbis have used this language to justify what's happening in Gaza.
And one of them went as far as wanting to nuke Gaza and then others said that Gaza should be nuked, but only that would affect southern Israel, so maybe it shouldn't.
So there's that kind of mindset that comes with Mark Levin.
His stepson is an advisor of Mike Huckabee.
And his stepson and Mike Huckabee, Mike Huckabee being the ambassador to Israel, who triggered a bit of a diplomatic crisis by saying that the Israelis can have all of the Middle East as far as he's concerned.
They met Scrup.
Through our other allies over there, I suppose.
Exactly.
Is there anyone else in the Middle East who has an objection to that?
Well, a bunch of them did, actually, quite strongly.
Really?
He said it triggered a bit of a diplomatic crisis.
But he was meeting with a convicted spy, Jonathan Pollard, who sort of sold all kinds of secrets, and these ended up being passed on to the Soviets.
So it was a bit of a major issue, shall we say?
Quite a famous case from the 80s, if I remember correctly.
Not that I was there.
Yes, but he ends up getting allowed to travel back to Israel instead of sort of spending his entire term.
And, you know, his adoptive son or his stepson basically makes sure that there is absolutely no balance in the American embassy in Israel, that they don't listen to anybody who might say this is bad for any kind of peace process.
Not that I firmly believe in the peace process.
But Levin says things like, they need to be afraid of us in the Republican Jewish Coalition summit in Vegas.
So let's listen to that.
How about little Ada Fuentes?
What did his family do for this country?
What did he do?
How about Tucker Katarlson?
What did he do for the country?
He interviews the Qatari, interviews Putin, he interviews the lowest of scum genocidal maniacs from the face of the earth.
Now he's attacking Christian Zionists.
He's literally attacking the Bible.
I'm going to get a little bit into Bible literacy in a second, but let's listen.
Our evangelical Christian brothers and sisters, and it's not just them.
He's Catholics.
Ted Cruz is a Catholic.
He's a great man.
He's out there fighting.
He's attacked.
They're attacking Christianity.
Why?
Because Christianity rejects what they're spewing to.
Judaism rejects it.
Christianity rejects it.
Atheists reject it.
Agnostics reject it.
Gay people, straight people, women, men.
We all reject it.
I think a traditional conservative Jew would have some objections to homosexuality.
Sure, but that's a different story.
But the point is, if Tucker Carlson is so irrelevant, why do you sound so afraid?
Well, exactly.
Why are you so stressed out about all of this?
And why is it?
So why is it so hard for people in my business or people in leading positions in government to do the same thing?
What are they afraid of?
They need to be afraid of regular Americans like you and me.
They need to be afraid of us.
So when they hear stuff like that, they say, what?
What are we going to say?
And Lovi tried to frame himself as just another Joe Schmo regular American.
Exactly.
One of the most powerful voices in the current administration.
I mean, when we say, why is he so afraid of Tucker Carlson?
I think it's always worth remembering that Carlson, of course, has his own deep connections within the CIA with his father being part of the CIA.
Yeah, regular Jews.
I mean, what we're viewing is interfactional fighting within the American government right now.
And just to sort of highlight, just sort of end the discussion about Mark Levin, because there's a couple of other things that are worth mentioning.
Mark Levin was of the view that the Biden administration was deeply anti-Semitic.
The Biden administration had more Jews in its top planks than pretty much any other administration.
That's a fomented take.
Well, quite.
And his view is that Biden and Hamas supporting media are anti-Semites doing a hit job on Israel and Netanyahu.
Meanwhile, Biden Blinken never ever treated the Islamo-Nazi leader in Iran like this, or even like it's always the same thing.
Just a quick thing.
You're absolutely right.
What we are clearly being shown here is networks of power within the administration and various areas of the government.
Yeah, not just elements of the state, but also elements of other states.
And these are clearly in conflict.
Leading up to the election, there were multiple factions who had all joined the coalition supporting Trump, who presumably were hoping that once Trump got in, that they would be able to direct American policy in their preferred direction.
Trump has decided overwhelmingly, and we see in that recent tweet, that recent Truth Social post, overwhelmingly to side with the Mark Levin faction.
They've clearly won this argument.
Whereas Tucker Carlson has been sidelined, Elon Musk was sidelined.
As such, they're kind of a fringe faction now.
The cavalier nature of his use of this.
Nancy Pelosi.
Nancy Pelosi is anti-Semitic.
I want to go through this list.
Nancy Pelosi is anti-Semitic.
The Democratic senators are anti-Semitic, including Bernie Sanders.
Why is Bernie Sanders such a disgusting anti-Semite?
Didn't Bernie Sanders go to work on a kibbutz in Israel when he was a...
He is Jewish, yeah.
Yeah, in his late 30s or something.
Yeah.
David Cameron is anti-Semitic.
I suspect is news to site.
And some people's anti-Semitism is in their family's DNA.
Yeah.
According to nice Mr. Mark Levin.
So this is who we're dealing with, and he's clearly on a rampage.
And Trump feels that he's enough under pressure to want to go out and defend him and to essentially say that I am MAGA.
And whoever disagrees.
This is MAGA.
Apparently, this is MAGA.
Right.
So the government being entirely focused on anti-Semitism, that's MAGA.
What have I been saying?
It's not for you.
Yeah, I guess.
And then Ted Cruz boosts this post from somebody called Insurrection Barbie.
Now, she may or may not be a convicted fraudster who's also Jewish.
We don't know.
She uses a pseudonym.
But let's go through some of her critiques of what the problem is with the United States.
And I think this is particularly important and interesting because the point that she's making is that there is a theological battle going on, which is really important.
And she's saying that the people who are involved aren't primarily interested in the midterms or any particular election.
Their question is who controls the ideological and theological DNA of the Republican Party's base.
And the only correct answer is Mark Levin.
Just in case you had any doubts.
They're not concerned about the midterms.
Well, is launching just a random attack on Iran concerned about the midterms?
Well, exactly.
Exactly.
For 70 years, the answer to who controls the ideological and theological DNA of the Republican Party has been evangelical Protestant Christians.
30% of the American electorate, 80% of whom vote Republican, motivated by deep biblical conviction, organized through tens of thousands of local churches and bound together by a theological commitment to the Bible, have been the drivers of the conservative movements.
And she argues that this new wave that is coming from Catholics and from Protestant Christian nationalists and others is foreign because it's important.
America does not have a native anti-Semitism rooted in 2,000 years of living in close proximity to Jewish communities in a Catholic or Orthodox Christian organization.
Because I've been only tangentially following this, but Tucker Carlson is being held up as sort of like an icon of this dissident movement because he came out and said, should America's foreign policy be for Israel?
Right?
Exactly.
And that framing, oh, this anti-Semitism is new and important to America.
It's like, I don't even agree that this is anti-Semitism, right?
I actually think this is a national interest issue of the nation of America, the United States, and who it should serve first.
Now, as Mark Levin was quite crystal clear about, the primary concern should be anti-Semitism and Israel first policy.
Tucker Carlson's great crime seems to have been like, and in his way, going, ha, ha, ha, I'm actually not sure that it should be for a foreign country.
Exactly.
Maybe it should be for America first.
I don't know.
I'm mad.
You know, like, kind of Tucker Carlson impression, but you know, you know what I mean, right?
That just seems to be his great crime because I don't think anyone's going to say, oh, Tuck Carlson, emblematic of anti-Semitism.
Theological Window Dressing00:06:59
This is what the average anti-Semite is like.
It's like, if it is, you should be so lucky.
Exactly.
Because he's not a lunatic or an evil, like, horrible person.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But the other side of it is that Europeans, because of their interaction with Judaism, are by their nature anti-Semitic.
We're not.
That's the education here.
It is.
It absolutely is.
The other side of that coin is everyone in Europe is just a Jew hater.
Which is why Mark Levin would say something like, it's in your family's DNA.
David Cameron is an anti-Semite.
This is absolutely.
No one in Britain says David Cameron is anti-Semite.
But at the same time, there's a fundamental contradiction by them saying that Judaism and Christianity are just the same thing or so deeply connected and aligned with one another, as Mark Levin was suggesting in the other clip that you showed us.
There's a contradiction.
They want to use either argument when it suits them best.
Notice that it isn't true.
Well, there's that too.
Jews were excluded from pretty much all of the top institutions in the United States up until the 1920s and 30s.
They weren't allowed into Harvard.
They weren't allowed into all kinds of social clubs.
So the idea that the idea that there was this sort of instant paradise for Jewish people in the United States wasn't even true on the face of it.
Yeah, there was also differing levels of immigration of groups into the country.
There had been a Jewish population within America from the founding, but there was a huge explosion in the early 20th century of them immigrating over from Eastern Europe.
And because of the behavior of them, because they were used to living in the pale of settlement, they had very different manners because they were very Eastern European as well as being just very different.
They all spoke Yiddish, etc.
But also they come in and then, yeah, like the Italians as well, are excluded and then they start organizing for themselves.
Exactly.
But I mean, this is like a holdover from essentially living in the Russian Empire.
Because, like with all empires, and we've talked about this before, you have different settlements and dispensations for different groups.
Exactly.
So it's not like living in an Anglo, you know, open frontier country.
It is different.
Yeah.
And then she attacks these people who are trying to sort of change American foreign policy by saying that their operation must convert rather than persuade.
And I find that a bit weird because you can only convert people if you persuade them.
And if you persuade them, they do convert in the sense that they change their minds.
I suppose she's using the language.
Hold on.
She's using the language of replacement, essentially.
She's using the language claiming, essentially, that evangelicals are being replaced in the same way that they're being replaced by immigration.
She's kind of accusing...
Which is not true.
She's kind of accusing them of being Muslims, right?
As in, we're displacing your religious convictions.
Yes, exactly.
And that's really interesting because Mark Levin was saying, we're going to fucking crush you.
Exactly.
We're going to destroy you.
We are going to eradicate you.
You're going to be afraid of us.
Exactly.
And the opposition, I mean, honestly, sounds very much like how Christianity proliferated through the Roman Empire, actually, by converting and persuading while the emperor was trying to crush them and persecute them.
Just saying that one side is using state power here and the other isn't.
Exactly.
So, you know.
And then she accuses Palestinian Christians of being somehow evil because they're being interviewed by Tucker Carlson and saying that actually Christians in the West Bank are suffering enormously because of what the Israelis are doing.
The latest of which is to plant gates all over the entrances of Bethlehem, essentially turning it into a mini-prison, meaning that there is no freedom of movement in Bethlehem.
Now, unfortunately, Bethlehem has become majority Muslim, but there are no exceptions for the Christians.
And the Christian village of Taibbe, which is the last full-on Christian village in the West Bank, they're getting attacked every week by Jewish settlers backed by the Israeli government.
So it just seems a bit weird.
Then she goes on to say that this is coming from Alexander Dugan.
Why do they talk about Alexander Dugan?
I don't know.
He cares about him.
I don't know.
And she claims that Dugin is this great intellectual influence on the Russians, even though he never has senior meetings.
Yeah.
Putin has never endorsed him.
No.
He's never really accepted him.
But she claims because Dugin met with Steve Bannon one time in 2018, that makes Steve Bannon tainted by Duganism and Eurasian geopolitics.
Honestly, I think Bannon's friendship with Erchstein was way worse.
Right?
I'd say so.
I genuinely say so.
I'd say so.
And I say this to someone who's disappointed because I like Bannon.
And then she continues with a strange attack on Catholics and Protestants.
The theological bedrock of Protestantism is sola scriptura, the doctrine that scripture alone is the supreme authority for Christian faith and practice.
Every Protestant denomination, including every evangelical tradition, traces itself back to this principle.
The Catholic Church considers sola scriptura a heresy.
The Orthodox churches consider it contrary to tradition.
Both hold that scripture must be interpreted through the church as an authoritative teaching, which means individual Christians cannot simply read the Bible and conclude that God made a covenant with the Jewish people that remains operative today.
Now, here's where I want to insist on getting into the Bible first.
Unfortunately, for the sake of time, we're going to have to be very quick.
I am going to do it extremely quickly, and I am going To refer you to Matthew 21 and the story where Jesus basically condemns the fig tree for not bearing fruit.
And this is universally interpreted as kind of a breaking of the covenant and saying that the Jews of the time did not adhere to the covenant and did not bear fruit, and therefore they were essentially punished by Christ.
And then later on in Matthew 21, Jesus says, you know, he cleanses the temple, throws out the moneylenders, and has the parable about the people who had taken over a vineyard and killed the servants who had come to collect the fruit of the vineyard that was their right, and eventually killing the son of the owner of the vineyard.
And Jesus says, well, what do you think the owner of the vineyard is now going to do?
And the Pharisees and the doctors at the time said, well, obviously they're going to receive enormous punishment.
And Jesus says, essentially, that's what applies to you.
Now, if people want to read that on their own, they can reach that conclusion.
And if you're going to quote the Bible, at least know something about it.
Sure, but this is not real.
I feel like the theological discussion is honestly kind of window dressing for the power politics under David.
Jesus on Vineyard Punishment00:05:28
Exactly.
I'm not saying they're not directly related, obviously.
What they're acknowledging is that this change in theological view that previously held Israel to be absolutely holy and a fulfillment of prophecy has a real political impact.
That's what they're acknowledging.
That this debate is fundamentally theological because power flows from beliefs about power.
And power flows from beliefs about right and wrong.
If the interpretation that is provided by the Christian Zionists is in fact false, which it is, then they have a massive problem with their voters.
And this coalition cannot survive.
And what's bringing this to a head, what's driving Donald Trump to defend a lunatic like Levin, what's driving Insurrection Barbie to write about things that she does not understand is how badly the Iran war is going.
Yeah.
And for whom the Iran war is being waged.
And for whom the Iran is waged.
I mean, they literally came out and said, oh, Israel was going to attack, and we had to preempt this.
And so Trump is saying the kinds of things that would sort of demonstrate that the war is going quite badly by declaring victory repeatedly.
By declaring victory.
What victories do you need over Iran?
If you're winning all the time, why is Hormuz not over?
Are we tired of winning yet, boys?
I think I'm tired of winning this.
I mean, just this statement that we've got on screen, so contradictory in itself.
You could make the case that maybe we shouldn't even be there at all.
I will.
It's almost like we do it for habit.
We just have a habit of going into wars, but we also do it for some very good allies that we have in the Middle East.
Which one is it?
Like, there's three separate premises put there.
Sorry, carry on, Carol.
Hurry up.
So basically, this is what I wanted to say.
What I wanted to say is that the consequence of the Iran crisis is massive.
And that one of these consequences is the realization that American theology about Israel has been fundamentally wrong.
And they're really panicked about it to the extent that Ted Cruz, who's supposedly a Catholic, is endorsing a full-throated attack against Catholics by what could be a Jewish lady who calls herself Insurrection Barbie.
Someone with zero respect for scripture, zero respect for theology, zero respect for reality, honestly.
And it's a good thing that this crisis is happening.
It's a good thing that this panic is breaking out.
And it's a good thing that now we're stuck.
Trump is stuck defending people like Mark Levin, who thinks that David Cameron is an anti-Semite.
Is there a more laughable man than that?
And if this is what you have on your side, you have a disastrous problem.
And that's why they're panicking.
And they have no idea what to do about it because they got roped into this war.
They don't know how to end it.
Let's move on.
Sorry for people who have sent in a bunch of super chats.
I took up fast.
We will go through them as quickly as we can at the end.
So can we get mine up, please?
Thank you very much.
So just to start off by reminding everybody that we do have the live event on the 11th of April in Swindon, sadly, but you will get to see all this person.
So which God?
The Christian God.
I look out the window and I don't see much Christianity going on out there.
You take a walk in the Wiltshire countryside, though, and you realize Swindon ain't the Wiltshire countryside.
Keep coping, please.
It's totally true.
Yeah, come to visit us in Swindon on the 11th of April, 7 till 10.
You'll get to see a live podcast.
You'll get to see me absolutely demolish Carl and his Gen X copes, his Gen X copes and nitpicking, talking about the Star Wars prequels.
I'm going to have to watch.
Why didn't they do that?
He doesn't know how badly he's going to get destroyed.
I'm going to be watching a marathon of Plinkett videos before.
Yeah, that's right.
One after the other.
Carly's going to go through 15 years of red letter media content in preparation for this.
I'm just going to watch the films and make my own mind up.
And then you get to see a live lad's hour as well.
So all that to look forward to.
Make sure to be there.
So moving on to the actual segment.
The box doesn't seem to want to work, which is absolutely fine.
I have my box.
I've got, in fact, the screen itself, the overwhelming power of my prequel defense has short-circuited the computer and is now not working.
There we go.
Here we go.
Thank you very much, Samson.
Another base prequel defender.
You can see how it's all coming up.
You can see how this version has seeped in, guys, can't you?
No, no.
You can see how the young people, we just have minds of our own.
This is Protestantism on steroids.
Now I know which side I'm on.
Sorry, was it done?
Settled.
Was it handed down in Vatican 2 that you have to dislike the prequels?
You are against the church of Plinket and the tradition?
All right, that's pretty cringe, bro.
Pretty cringe.
Either way, so I want to start off with something that actually quite connects to the previous segment, but then we'll get on to the good news, which is all of this can be solved.
It's actually one quick, simple fix to save all of America.
But first, let's look at some of the problems with America.
Saving America with Simple Fixes00:15:46
And part of that is the reorientation of MAGA's goals.
As we've seen with the war in Iran and the military strikes in the Middle East, Venezuela, the warmongering around Greenland in January.
MAGA seems to have set itself off of the course that it set back in 2016.
When the point was it was essentially partially a workers' movement that you could argue in favor of immigration restrictionism.
Deeply nativist movement.
Yeah, for the sake of American workers and American industry, which there seems to still be some of that last year with the tariffs and everything, which is trying to get industry back into America.
But part of it seems to have lost its way.
And you recently have Donald Trump making statements like this about illegals.
Many countries opened up their prisons and dropped them into the United States.
Those are the people we're getting out.
And we have a lot of heart.
And I said, you got to lighten up on this.
We have a lot of heart for people.
They came in illegally, but they're good people and they're working now on farms and they're working in luncheonettes and hotels and all.
And we're not looking, we're looking to get the criminals out right now.
Yeah.
Well, hang on.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
Just the criminals now.
But that's obviously the complete opposite of what he wrote of this entire purpose of MAGA.
he's going to sign up to some kind of amnesty.
Well, that is...
Not another bloody Reagan amnesty.
Yeah, that's what this is sounding like then.
There are bills in the works right now to open up immigration for legal farm work and other sectors of agriculture and other parts of American industry for legal workers coming in, which would themselves include an amnesty bundled in with it.
That is something to really worry about.
And you can see it coming elsewhere as well from the speaker, House Speaker Johnson, saying that the Trump administration is in cost correction mode on immigration after earlier this year.
And this is after the immigration detention and riots and such in Minnesota, which was heavily down to just the non-cooperation of the officials and the local state.
Should have sent in the National Guard.
Yeah, they should have done that.
This is where he should have spent a lot more.
This is where he should have spent his bloody political capital, not on a boondoggle invasion of Iran.
Yeah, and it is a shame because he said we had a little hiccup with some Latino and Hispanic voters for certain.
Some of the immigration enforcement was viewed to be overzealous, which is why we're on course correction mode, which is worrying because that just means everything that we were promising, everything that we were campaigning on, is going to be pulled back.
And it's a big shame because not only did the crackdown in Minnesota overshadow the original story, which was that there were huge communities of Somalians committing overwhelming fraud.
The estimates on how much fraud they were committing is still in the billions of dollars.
I think the upper limits were $9 to $11 billion worth of fraud over the daycares.
And that got really overshadowed by the fact that everybody focused really hard on the crackdown, which was handled in some ways quite poorly by the administration, as well as having all of the pushback from the local state administration.
The message here is that if you're somebody like Tim Walt, you can loot your own state and the federal government, use that to finance proxies who will go and attack law enforcement, and that this behavior will be rewarded.
The consequence of that is that mob rule works.
Essentially.
Mob rule works for one side.
It is eventually going to be adopted as a tactic by the other side.
Which is what you don't want.
It's the only tactic.
That's what your politics is at this point.
And that's where we get on to this, the H-2A temporary agricultural worker visa.
There has been a lot of talk over the past few years about the H-1B visa, which is, of course, a big problem.
Brings a lot of foreigners into America who shouldn't be there, filling up jobs that should be reserved for American workers, American university graduates.
But H-2A is more of a low-skilled visa for agricultural workers.
And this is going to cause some huge problems by itself, which is why I've got this article here, which came out the other day from the New York Times, to address farm labor shortages Trump administration turns to migrant workers.
And again, this seems to be a backtracking on everything that he had been talking about regarding immigration.
Unless, of course, you remember all of those times leading up to the November 2024 elections when he was talking about stapling green cards to people's university degrees, bringing in more legal workers than ever before, because this is that pivot.
This is one of the reasons that you get a lot of focus on illegal versus legal immigration, which is relevant in America because of the amount of illegal immigration, but still, this is a legal path for those same people taking those same American jobs to push down wages, to push people out of these industries that really should be filled by American workers.
Let me just pause there.
I hate the fact that the frame has changed.
Because if we're capitalists, yes, this is the creative destruction of capitalism, right?
If you can creatively destroy your country.
No, no, no, no.
If you've got a business and you can't hire people for that business, then you have to change, right?
It's not that the government is like, right, okay, well, we'll just allow, we'll just cram in a billion foreign slaves then in order to make your business work.
No, no, no.
No, if your business isn't viable, if that doesn't work for whatever reason, then it doesn't exist, right?
That's how this should work.
And what that does is actually gears the economy in favor of the people working in it.
That means that the country, the economy, the entire thing is focused not around supporting a layer of industry, because I mean, industries are always temporary anyway.
You know, things change and evolve over time.
It's about making sure that the people are just free to actually do things.
And okay, let's say, okay, we don't have enough farm workers.
Well, then you raise the prices.
Well, what's that mean?
Well, it means that the price of this is going to be raised in the price.
That's fine.
That's what happens.
Price rises are basically untenable at the moment, though, for this administration, which had promised the golden age, which has promised prices going down, which at the same time, if the prices of everything, including food, were to start going up at the same time as the Iran war is causing prices and gas to go up because gas has gone up to over the weekend about, was it $369 per gallon, which is up from $2.97 or something last month, that's a huge jump in one month, then that would spell disaster.
That's true, but this is why you don't just start random wars with primary oil-producing countries.
That could be an answer.
That could be partly fixed.
I mean, I just saying.
But the point is, like, yeah, there's going to be a bit of pain initially, but once you actually set an economy that's based around what's good for your workers rather than what's good for a business, then things start changing naturally on their own.
I mean, this is like, this is not even new economic theory.
Either way, I've got a lot of information to get through.
Sorry, sorry.
So carry on.
So regarding the tight labor market, as it says here, because there are farm workers and fewer new immigrants and younger Americans willing to toil the fields, we get that argument, by the way, that just young people are not willing.
They're just not willing to actually do these jobs.
So we need to bring all of these people in.
It says here, the administration has quietly acknowledged in recent months that its immigration raids and crackdown on the border have aggravated the issue.
So it is instead turned to an alternative source, making it far cheaper for farmers to hire immigrant workers on temporary visas.
Many farmers have celebrated these changes, made to an increasingly popular visa program known as H2A, noting the difficulty in hiring American workers and tough economic conditions for the industry.
But immigration hawks and labor unions are opposed, saying that this will increase the share of foreign workers, hurt native workers, and suppress their wages.
Because of course, most of these workers in agriculture are going to be Mexican as well.
Only 0.4% of farmers in California reported losing workers directly to farm raids in the Trump administration's raids last year, according to a new survey by the California Farm Bureau and Michigan State University.
But more than 14% said that the raids and general anxiety surrounding enhanced immigration enforcement caused worker shortages, which just goes to show how dependent a lot of these farms and these more marginal farms are on illegal workers.
And they'll be overt in saying so.
You have them come out to Republican rallies and basically say, Listen, I need illegal workers because otherwise I can't manage my business and my business will collapse if I don't have these illegal workers.
Among labor-intensive crops like fruit and vegetables, that number was nearly 20%.
The Labor Department, in a regulatory filing revamp, filing revamping the H2A program in October, acknowledged the challenges finding workers.
The near-total cessation of the inflow of illegal aliens, combined with the lack of an available legal workforce, it said, results in significant disruptions to production costs and threatening the stability of domestic food production and prices for US consumers.
Now, all of this is building up a picture of, okay, I guess we need these people then.
I guess we desperately need these people.
If the industry is so difficult and so marginal that you need illegal workers, then I guess we're just going to have to open up these routes.
But there is more information in this article down the line that directly contradicts all of this.
So we'll get to that in a few minutes.
Under the new changes, the agency adjusted how wages paid to H2A farm workers are calculated, effectively lowering hourly rates by between $1 and $7, depending on the state.
According to some estimates, farm owners can also now include housing as part of the compensation package they provide to guest farm workers.
So it's literally you're battery farming migrants whilst suppressing the wages as part of this bill.
It is suppressing wages as just part of the text of the bill.
It's just about creating and preserving an underclass.
I also don't believe this.
Young people won't work on farms nonsense.
I mean, if you pay them enough, they will.
Well, that's the funny thing, but we'll carry on.
So the reduction in wages has prompted a lawsuit from the United Farm Workers of America, which represents thousands of field workers.
It argues that the rule will adversely harm American farm workers by lowering their wages as well or pushing them out of the labor pool entirely, which obviously it is.
The bill is lowering the wages these people need to be paid, which essentially shows that this is, it could be characterized as a huge government-backed subsidy for farms and agriculture.
Okay, and you can say, you know, we're massively supportive of farms in this country.
We're supportive of people who work the fields.
We're supportive of people producing their own food and being self-sufficient.
But perhaps there are better ways to subsidize these industries without destroying your country's demographics at the same time.
It's whether this administration is willing to take the steps to not only save its industries while preserving them for the future, and also, as part of the one easy trick, actually cutting the knees off, cutting the legs off of the next potential Democrat administration having an extra excuse to flood the country with more immigrants.
But I'll carry on.
But for Bruce Talbot, who operates a peach orchard and vineyard in Colorado, the move will reduce his wage bill and allow him to hire more workers, making the economics of farming far more viable.
Mr. Talbot has tapped into the H2A program for more than a decade as the pool of locally available labor so slow to a trickle.
Now, if we take that at face value, that is a genuine problem.
Yeah.
It needs to be tackled.
But then the question is, why has the problem arisen and how do you tackle it?
So is it that people don't choose these jobs because of low pay?
Is it because of more wide societal problems like falling birth rates, meaning less natives who are of the age to fill these positions in the first place?
Is it cultural?
Is it a lack of motivation?
People being overly socialized in a technological environment, so they don't want to go out and work the fields, which could also even be connected to falling testosterone.
All of these things, which, I mean, falling testosterone, make America healthy again.
Cyclical thing.
Let's see if testosterone goes up.
All of this is linked.
Is it too many immigrants already in the sector pushing people out?
Is it young people being pushed to do white-collar jobs instead of blue-collar jobs?
Is it welfare dependency or other factors?
And we'll find out below.
And similarly, there are other factors.
We can't just take it on face value that Mr. Talbot is forced to do this or he'd go out of business.
He is an interested party in all of this.
So there are other factors at play that make immigrants a desirable workforce.
Not only is it now subsidized by the government.
It's just slavery.
Yeah.
By another.
Also, there are the other aspects of it, which is the same with H1P.
You are dependent on the employer to remain in the country, which means that you are going to be more compliant.
You're not going to ask for your rights because he could just say, well, I'll ship you off and get somebody else here.
There is the lack of connection to native workers alongside that employer dependency.
And it's the same thing we see with Amazon, equals no unions.
And finally, there's no social or cultural attachment to the local area, meaning these people are not distracted by going out and drinking or having a social life.
They have more time to work, more time to focus on work.
So we have to take all of that into account.
But if we do take all of that into account, the question becomes: if the government can subsidize farms to the tune, not only alongside this bill, but to the tune of an estimated $44 billion in 2026, and there are other estimates that I'll get to which are higher, why can it not use some or all of that money to instead help automate these farms instead of flood the country with foreign labor?
We have the technology.
We have more than enough technology that's getting better at being produced quickly.
It's becoming cheaper because of the availability of it.
Why can the American government, instead of subsidizing these farms by getting them to bring in more foreign workers, in this case from Mexico, why can't you just give them, pay for them to have better technology?
Which is a solution I'll get onto.
But just to destroy some of the other arguments that this article has presented so far, they say here, Mr. Talbot's farm employs four to five dozen guest farm workers annually, the vast majority of whom are returning workers and from Mexico, with just half a dozen local workers, six.
Six local workers.
He says, other hardworking Americans, of course, but they're in construction and they're in oil and gas and they're in career jobs.
They're not in seasonal farming.
Mr. Talbot's point about the lack of domestic workers is reflected in the data.
Under the H2A program, employers must also demonstrate an inability to hire US-based workers.
In 2025, only 182 of more than 415,000 advertised positions received a domestic applicant.
But that will be contradicted in the very next portion of the article, where they say, in the past two decades, the number of certified H-2A visa positions has risen sharply to nearly 400,000 in 2025, up from 50,000 in 2005.
That is exponential growth.
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These temporary workers now make up 15% of all crop workers, and about 40% of crop workers are also illegal immigrants as well.
And a third and only a third are American citizens, according to latest government estimates.
Maria, they speak to here, a farm worker of nearly three decades in Idaho, who declined to share her last name because she's not authorized to work in the United States.
They've literally found an illegal immigrant farm worker.
It seems like they can't not find one.
Yeah, exactly.
It's easier to find an American.
Sorry, more difficult to find an American.
Said in an interview that she had witnessed the program's growth firsthand.
Over the past four years, she spent fewer and fewer weeks planting and harvesting onions, beans, alfalfa, and wheat as more and more H-2A workers arrive.
To make up for the lost hours, she's resorted to selling to Malis while other local workers have taken on second jobs.
And her American-born 17-year-old son was unable to find a job in the fields and was told that teenagers were no longer wanted given the availability of H2A workers.
They are literally pushing the illegal immigrants out of work.
And that poor 17-year-old, like being born in America means he does get American citizenship.
So he can say, no, I'm an American.
Why can't I get a job?
Well, apparently because we've got too many Mexicans, sorry, bro.
It's not even illegals because your mum can't get work here anymore, actually.
Sorry, you're going to have to apply for somewhere else.
But doesn't this just prove the point of those unions, though?
This kid has literally been denied to be able to apply because of all of these workers, which just tells the lie when they cite these statistics of only 182 people applied for these jobs who were domestic workers.
Well, yeah, they're not accepting domestics for applications because they've got too many Mexicans that they want to come in on the cheap anyway.
And it just carries on to say this year as a result of wage cuts to the H2A workers as a result of this October bill, Maria, the illegals, may also see her hourly earnings drop to $11 from $17.
We need to save our illegals.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Even the illegals are having their wages cut by foreign workers coming in.
This is insane.
This is an insane slush of money.
It's ridiculous.
The Economic Policy Institute, left-leaning think tank, even the left-leaning think tanks are getting in on it as well, estimated the methodological changes would result in a $2 billion cut to annual wages of guest farm workers and a $3 billion cut for U.S.-based farms.
We're getting to literal slave wages here.
And here you go, what you were saying earlier about the amnesty.
Congress, too, is considering more sweeping changes to the program.
Bipartisan bill introduced last year would streamline the application process, reduce costs and expand it to year-long employers that currently do not qualify like dairy farmers.
Because so far, this is about seasonal workers.
But now, the rest of the agricultural and farming industry could be subsidized in the same way.
So if you work on a dairy farm in America, the administration, the regime, might screw you next.
And as well as that, the bill would establish a pathway to legal status for unauthorized farm workers already in the United States.
So an amnesty.
That's what we're getting here.
And let's not pretend as well that it's not a problem that a lot of these people, like so many others, overstay their visas.
This is from 2019 and 2021, but these figures probably worse now.
Overstayers represented about 46% of the 10.7 million undocumented immigrants in the United States.
And one of the big achievements of Donald Trump's presidency so far has been his ability to close the southern border.
But let's not pretend that with that route closed off to them, a lot of Mexicans and people who would normally be passing through the southern border are instead going to seek other routes.
And while they say that at the moment, H2A does not have much fraud with the route through the southern border being closed, you might see a massive spike in fraud as those same people apply for temporary seasonal worker visas and then skip out on them.
That might be something that is about that.
They do this all the time with student visas in Britain.
Exactly.
They have 450,000 student visas and only a fraction of those actually going to be students.
And again, all of this is completely unnecessary.
And there are policy institutions that have been talking about this for a while, like White Papers Policy Institute.
I recently spoke in an interview to their director, Cyan Quinn.
You should check that out on the website.
But they have done articles like this talking about robots and remigration, saying that the amount of technology that is being developed to do this kind of menial labor will make this kind of illegal or cheap foreign labor completely irrelevant.
Is the one simple fix to not only fix the current labor shortages, to fix the current problem of needing foreign labor or saying that you need foreign labor, but could also, again, cut off at the legs any future Democratic administration who would want to use this as an excuse to flood the market, the labor market with foreign labor and therefore change the demographics even more.
You can say we don't need them.
We have automation.
So they talk about in here: the United States is spending $150 billion to host 18 to 20 million illegal aliens, probably more, but they say they like to use estimates from reputable organizations.
A part of these funds should be taken up to deporting every last illegal alien, but then we must help our farmers catch up to the modern era and encourage more young men to take up farming as it becomes more high-tech.
Creating a program of $20 billion in grants to go to small and medium-sized farms for a period of eight years would effectively automate the entire agricultural industry and massively boost yields and lower costs.
This would be a complete positive.
There are basically no downsides to this.
And when you have administrations that multiple admins in a row, green light bills that are up to $2.2 trillion at a time, $20 billion to modernize your entire agricultural industry is a drop in the ocean.
Why would you not?
Exactly.
Why would you not?
And they say that's just in one sector.
Tax incentives and grants for young people to start businesses that reply on robotic rather than cheap labor.
I hate to say what they did.
They could go on.
But essentially, just do that.
Because Donald Trump has made some good strides with immigration in America so far over the past year.
It's net negative for the first time in years.
But that could all be wiped out by one Democrat administration.
And this could be a silver bullet to destroy the excuse of agricultural farm labor and other such industries bringing in these foreign laborers.
Because instead, you could just get the candidates based off a number of components.
It's looking simple.
One easy fix, and you're saved.
Let's go to the video comments.
The Labour government did this back in the 50s and 60s, spent money keeping people in work, even important workers, rather than investing in new tech.
That's why we end up so far behind the Japanese in the 70s.
I live in a rural area, tons of farms around.
I drive past cows and I'll end up eating every day.
Want to know how many migrants work around here?
Zero.
Trump is benefiting industrial agro corpse, North America.
Yeah, this is the thing, right?
Like, I am actually convinced that I could, Edward Bernay style, sell farm work to young people.
Yeah.
I'm absolutely convinced you can do it.
Because frankly, I think a lot of young men don't realize that they're kind of weedy and low-tee because they're not doing manual work, right?
You're not out in the sun all day, sunning your balls and physically moving.
They don't have to be naked in the fields, do they?
Because that might turn them off.
Selling Farm Work to Youth00:05:30
Listen, man, I've been reading Roared Nationalist book.
I'm Jack.
I like Reddit.
I'm just teasing.
But the point is, it's your unhealthy office lifestyle that's doing this to you.
I think it's an easy sell to be like, actually, you can make money and be healthy and get a wife.
And anyway, let's go on to the video comments.
Patriot.
Vampire.
Nationalist.
Menel Retard.
Eugenicist.
A scary man.
Really?
Retard.
Retard.
Vampire.
Vampire.
Next lol.
Moses.
That's a great edit.
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
We got all the answers now.
That was the one.
And yeah, also, sounds like you've got dairy farms around as well with all the cows and such.
With this bill that they're going to put through to make it so it's not just seasonal workers, that thing that I've been talking about, H2A, could be opened up for your local farms as well.
So pray that they don't pass it.
Mad.
Dwight says, you picked a challenging venue for the live event, lads.
How do you expect to top the raw visceral energy on display from that sea of silver-headed boomers at the latest reform event there?
Well, I mean, you're just going to have to help us out, aren't you?
Anyway, the links will all be in the description, so come and join 11th of April.
Where is it?
There was a question about that, actually, that I wanted to address because it's First Keeper Orland says, Will there be a live stream of the live event for those who can't make it to Swindon?
Well, no, but we will record it and put it up on the website behind the paywall afterwards, so you can come watch it afterwards.
And Cumbrian Kulak says, great podcast today, gents, thought-provoking stuff.
Well, thank you very much.
Doing our best.
Omar says, they can put out as much propaganda as they want, but the maternal reset switch in most women is one cuddled baby away.
Yeah, and a lot, like, I see the opposite problem in not just my wife, but other women, where they're complaining that, oh, this will be my last baby, and they feel like this deep thing and it like just pull in them.
And it's like, you know, what can you do?
You know, Doug says, my wife is currently pregnant with the first of our children.
Congratulations.
I agree that the anti-natal with the anti-natalism sentiment, nowhere has anywhere for families to spend time, particularly the cities.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Bring back daddism.
Well, that's the thing.
Just, it doesn't make sense that our societies aren't geared towards our children, and we're going to regret it in the future.
Dred Nort Logan says, someone who wants a wife with plenty of children, I found this anti-mother stuff, the work of the devil himself.
Well, it's very much presented that way.
But if you actually look under the surface, it's actually a cry for help.
It's actually a cry for, please, we need some help.
And actually, I'm totally in favor of us helping these women.
Yeah, I jumped to conclusions because of the framing to blame the women.
And I think that's part of the reason they frame it that way for young men to go, oh, what's the point of getting with a woman anyway?
Whereas by the end of it, it's like, yeah, I can understand where these women are coming from.
BBC have just presented it evilly.
Yes.
Yeah, no, that's exactly it.
It's present.
And similarly.
And it is deliberate.
You know, it was deliberate.
Yeah, it's very subversive.
Lena says, I believe sometimes the opportunity for women to have it all also eventually puts the pressure on them to be it all.
That's why being a mother is so difficult these days.
It's just difficult to do on the side, especially if you're not wealthy, like the women in Sex and the City or whatever.
It's like, yeah, no, I completely agree.
It's completely unfair.
And it really annoys me as well.
That's why I covered it today.
Iad Softik has something really nice to say.
Well, do you want to read it out because I'm a really beautiful tradition in Timcast IRL of writing a live comment while waiting for the birth of children?
Do you guys think that we could start it here too?
Writing from the clinic, waiting for my firstborn, Adam.
Greetings from Germany.
Well, congratulations, Lish.
I'm very, very happy for you.
You guys can feel free to do that in the chat if you'd like.
I think that's really nice.
I'll tell you what, man, there's nothing more stressful than waiting for your wife to give birth.
Jesus Christ.
Basically, right?
It's kind of harrowing.
No one ever talks about what it's like for the husband because, of course, the wife's currently going through something.
But you're sat there.
You can't do anything.
And something titanic is happening.
There's screaming, there's panic.
The midwives are doing stuff.
And you're just sat there, like, oh, God, I hope everything comes out alright.
And then suddenly you're holding a crying baby.
And it's just like you end up.
Honestly, there's such a build-up of tension.
The only time I ever cry is at the birth of my kids.
It just washes out of you.
Anyway, it's tough, man.
I just remember my missus getting a massive needle in her spine.
Yeah, to help get.
Oh, God.
I'm bad with needles, but I had to just get over it.
It's a brilliant needle.
I mean, because it was her, it was the one who was dealing with it.
So I was like, well, I was just.
Just look me in the eye, sweetheart.
Yeah, the needle is huge as well.
Anyway, that's a random name says, there's a limit to the fear people have of these Zionist subversives.
Morgoth is right.
The Israelis are burning up every last bit of goodwill the world has towards them.
Yeah, I know.
And the strident attack on people who are sort of putting their heads up and saying, well, I'm not really in favor of this, like from Mark Levin and that sort of type.
So this is not helping your case.
If Nancy Pelosi and Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are all anti-Semitic, then like, okay.
Bernie Sanders is one of the most Jewish people in public politics in America.
And even he is an anti-Semite, apparently.
Yeah, but it's like...
It's laughable.
Year-Round Refinery Bills00:03:04
Tucker Carlson is not some frothing foam-at-the-mouth hater, right?
That's the thing.
Like, you've picked the wrong target there.
I'm not even saying that you can't disagree with him.
Of course, you can disagree with him.
You know, I'm not even saying he's not being funded by Qatar.
Maybe he is.
I don't bloody know.
It's entirely likely, right?
But he's not just a rabid hater.
And framing him like that just doesn't work.
Yep, absolutely.
Alex says, Ted Cruz and other neocons believe they need to support Israel because it'll bring about the end of days and the second coming.
They're theological lunatics.
Yeah, honestly, a lot of people don't realize just how bonkers this entire conversation is.
The Third Temple movement at Red Hat.
There's that old clip of Hegseth saying it back in, what, 2017 when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem and he was saying, like, I see that we can rebuild the third temple or something.
It's like, oh, okay, this is just like mad theologians running foreign policy right now.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's evil scientists, but for theologians, really.
Yes.
Yeah.
And Arizona Desert Rat says, a refinery in, I believe, Saudi Arabia was hit by Iran impacting oil supply.
And Trump announced that a new refinery would be built in Texas about 10 years too late.
Gas in Arizona is $4.35 to $4.65 a gallon right now.
Well, listen.
Jesus.
You don't want to know what the price of our petrol in Britain is, right?
You don't want to know.
Because unironically, something like two-thirds of it is government taxation.
It's ridiculous.
So we are.
We also have the whole North Sea thing that we just don't do anything with.
No, yeah, yeah.
It's insane.
Yeah.
And we're over time, but I'll read out Maria's here.
Regarding agricultural labor, one constant is that it is seasonal.
Add to the issue with the capital cost of harvesting equipment and profit per season.
There is no simple or easy solution, and there is a place for surging seasonal workers during harvesting, but they have to return home between seasons and have no right of citizenry.
Yeah, I mean, there's all sorts of answers, but I mean, I genuinely think them.
Well, the thing is, I do agree that it's seasonal right now, but these new bills that are going through Congress seem to want to open it up to being non-seasonal as well, just like dairy farming is.
All year round.
No.
All year round.
And even then, there will be a lot of spillover from people overstaying visas, and there is still a better way to do it.
And the government is subsidizing it and spending taxpayer money on it anyway.
Why not just shore up all of these seasonal farms all year round so they don't have to rely on foreign labor instead?
Right.
It's literally just Edward Bernays things, right?
Just persuade young women that what they want is some buff, handsome Chad farmer husband, and literally they'll be like, oh, look, you know, put up, you know, make an adverts, TV show, whatever.
Like, where all these women, it becomes, I want a big, handsome stud guy on the farm.
And young men were like, well, I have to become a farmer then.
It will literally, you know, just Edward Bernays gave us the template for all of this.
Everyone knows how to do this.
Just get it done.
Anyway, that's all we've got time for today, folks.
So thanks for joining us.
Go and get the links, the tickets to the live event in the description, and we'll see you tomorrow.