Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters.
It is the 17th of April in the year of our Lord, 2025, and it's number 1145, if you can believe that.
Crazy. I'm joined by Harry.
Hello. Big Harry.
Big Harry, not little Harry.
We do have a little Harry in the office.
There's another guy in the office called Harry, and he's not little.
He's like, what, 6'1"?
I mean, he is little.
But compared to you.
Yeah, he's little.
Yeah, just like you're little.
Totally average height.
Harry's a giant.
You've got a problem with your thyroid or something.
No, my thyroid's perfectly fine.
Thank you very much.
You don't actually suffer from gigantism.
No, no, no.
Thankfully, I'm not going to be dead by like 45 or however old Andre was.
Fingers crossed.
I bloody hope so.
I hope it's sooner than that.
Don't count your chickens.
Anyway, weird, dark place we went there.
Okay, so today we're going to talk about the big win for women's...
In Britain, the Supreme Court.
I'm going to do a space science-y segment about possible life found somewhere else in our galaxy.
And then you're going to talk about iDubs.
Yeah, who you thought was KSI.
Yeah. But is in fact a white American and not an African.
Who's the other guy?
Speed. I Show Speed.
I Show Speed.
I've got I Show Speed and KSI and iDubbbz all mixed up in my mind because I've never watched any iDubbbz.
I've never ever...
I googled him for the first time this morning and I was like, oh, it's a white dude.
Oh, okay, so it's not who I thought it was.
So, okay, anyway, a thing about iDubbbz.
Yeah, yeah, it should be interesting.
Spoiler. I was never huge into iDubes in the first place, so I'll give you a rundown explanation of what the whole thing is when we get to it.
Alright, and that's the third segment.
So for the first one, let's kick off then.
We're going to talk about that big victory for women in the Supreme Court.
Yeah. Bad news, folks.
A man's right to dress as a woman and do whatever he wants has been stolen from us.
We've lost.
One of our core fundamental rights in this country.
Are we on the wrong side of history now?
I ask, well, certainly the Supreme Court is, I ask if we, as British men in dresses, are going to stand by and watch as our rights are further eroded.
If it stops men not being able to get changed in rooms with little girls, where does it end?
Where does it end?
This is obviously just another case of fascism.
Eddie Izzard is going to be pissed.
He probably is.
He's definitely very angry right now.
He's looking at the changing rooms and the swimming baths that he's at right now and just looking at the men's symbol.
Seething! Seething!
And from being just a transvestite to claiming you're an actual woman.
Yeah, that always seemed very strange to me.
And because I remember back in the day, I mean, mainly what I remember Eddie Izzard for is his role as the disco guy in Mystery Men.
You know the Ben Stiller film?
Have you ever watched that?
It's kind of a deep cut going back a good few decades at this point.
That's what I mostly know him for, but I remember that he used to do his stand-up shows fully in drag, and it was the joke, right?
It was a joke.
Look at this man in drag.
And then, what, like 10 years ago, it's like, actually, it's because I am a woman.
Well, I remember early Eddie Izzard's stand-up, and it was reasonably funny.
Quite often he'd come out wearing just sort of more or less normal clothes, but with a bit of makeup on, like a bit of lipstick on.
And his shtick was, I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
So he's not even gay.
That's my dad's joke.
That is the ultimate boomer dad joke.
He just liked wearing a bit of lippy.
But now, yeah, in the last few years...
I mean, so did David Bowie.
Right, yeah.
If it's good enough for Ziggy Stardust, don't knock it.
That's the standard I hold myself to.
Yeah, but in the last few years, he's started claiming he was transgender, right?
Isn't he an MP for Labour now?
No, no, he tried.
Yeah, I was going to say, he tried to stand as an MP.
I think he failed to get selected.
Oh, really?
I think that's right.
I don't follow his political career all that closely.
But actually, thinking about it, this segment isn't about Eddie Insider.
As funny as his response to this may be when he makes one.
So what's happened is that the UK Supreme Court, because for some reason we have one of those, Tony Blair's, well, Blair's Labour, I think in 2000, was it in 2009 that the Supreme Court was imposed on the UK?
Around there.
Yeah, it was when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister, but it was the Blairite project, right?
Completely... Useless institution.
We got on for a thousand years without a Supreme Court, but now all of a sudden apparently we needed one.
Simply a vehicle for taking sovereignty away from Parliament.
As far as I can tell.
Yes, as was much of the reforms that Labour did at that time.
Take as much power away from Parliament so that it could be put into quangos and other outside institutions to ensure that Blairism would be able to hold its power for as long as possible.
Which it has, but now it's done this decision where it's ruled that the legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex.
And I know that loads of people...
Have been celebrating this.
And yes, in a certain sense, it's a, oh, we got common sense through the door.
Finally, something useful has happened, but it is being codified by a useless institution that shouldn't exist in the first place.
What's being used to justify it is the Equality Act, which is a subversive document that was the collection of lots of other civil rights legislation that had been passed since the 1970s or so, which basically eroded freedom of association and men's rights in this country,
particularly white British men, eroded their rights.
That's the document that codifies things like...
Quotas, fair representation and parity within hiring processes.
I've looked into it before, and in fact, you can see the segment I did on it a few years ago called Abolish the Equality Act.
So what we're actually seeing here is a victory for civil rights still.
It's a...
Slightly older version of leftism than the leftism that we had for the past five years.
But this is still ultimately a victory for leftism.
The kind of women who are going to be celebrating this are still the kind of women that don't want men to be able to have men's clubs, boys only boy scouts, and things like that.
If we're frank and honest with ourselves.
So yes, there's a victory for common sense.
But nowhere near enough of a step forward as far as I'm concerned.
So a slightly less pernicious version of gender politics.
Slightly. Slightly.
Basically, yes.
It's still feminism, right?
It's all still being done in the name of feminism in a way that will still, because the Equality Act was designed to, negatively affect men and...
British men in particular.
Everything you've said there, I completely agree with 100%, but I'd still take it, right?
You still take it.
It's like if we close the borders, okay, it's not reversing demographic change, but you'll take it.
Well, of course, I'm going to take it.
Like I said, it's a victory for common sense, but I always try to couch these things in a greater context and to make sure that everybody knows that the work is not done.
This is a victory in one sense, but it's wrapped up in all of these other things that further legitimize a system that I do not agree with.
I do not want to celebrate the UK court telling me that something that I already knew is the case.
Congratulations. Tomorrow, UK Supreme Court decides gravity keeps you on the ground.
Oh, fantastic.
Oh, thank God.
Now that it's been legally codified, I can be sure that it was true.
It's a bit of a slow, ironic hand clap type situation.
Well done.
I can't believe we had to get to this point in the first place.
But, of course, it will have some positive effects going forward, some of which are being felt immediately already.
For instance, there were some reports going on that trans police officers in the London Metropolitan Police will no longer be able to perform pat-downs of women.
Which I think is a positive thing.
So take everything that I've said there and still realise that in terms of a day-to-day basic comfort and safety for British women, this will improve that somewhat in some of these fringe cases where you'd have a trans police officer trying to pat down someone.
So some haggard 60-year-old transvestite.
Walks into a women's changing room or toilet and the women call the police, they're not going to be arrested now.
They won't be the ones arrested.
That seems to be one of the major effects that this is going to push forward.
So I'll go through what's happened, why this case was put forward, and then we can all make up our own minds on this.
So the Scottish Government...
Because this all was based around the Scottish government to begin with, and it was put forward to the UK Supreme Court because of complications with the case and disagreements with this women's group, which was for Women's Scotland.
So the Scottish government had argued that transgender people with a gender recognition certificate...
Also legitimized by the Equality Act.
As part of the Equality Act, one of the protected characteristics is gender reassignment, and you can clarify that you have had gender reassignment with a gender recognition certificate.
So all of that is still somewhat legitimized, but there's questions of whether...
The recognition certificate is going to provide any actual legal status to these people anymore, whereas before the rulings had been in the Scottish government that if you had that, you had the same rights as women under the Equality Act.
Whereas now, now you just have the same rights as any other sexual minority.
So, I don't see what the big deal is there.
It's still illegal to discriminate against them.
You still can't just have someone come into your workplace For a job interview, see that they're a transvestite and say,"That's not the kind of person I want working for this business," and disqualify them as such.
Many would consider that unfair.
I think that should be a right of the person who's doing the hiring and the business themselves.
Equality Act says that you can't do that.
Reality is, they can still do it.
Just don't say that's why you've not selected the person.
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, Bo.
Come on.
Well, I'm not employing anyone, nor have I ever, so I can't be prosecuted for anything.
I'm just saying, the reality is...
That's the reality.
But you've always got to consider, in that situation, if you were in that situation, even if I choose not to hire this person for a legitimate reason...
Are they going to decide to make my life a living hell by inferring that I've chosen to do it off of the basis of some discrimination and try and take me to court over it?
These are the sorts of landmines that some think like the Equality Act produces, lays for people.
And that's one of the reasons why I think it's just an awful piece of subversive legislation which is only intended to try to legalistically hold multiculturalism and progressivism together.
In our society.
I think in the future, if we've got a government with some spine that was going to sort of undo a lot of the Blair era stuff, some sort of great repeal act, yeah, one of them would be that.
You'd have to sort of repeal it.
Yeah. What you really want to do is change repeal most.
Of everything that's been done since the end of the Second World War.
Since Attlee?
Yeah, basically since Attlee.
Maybe with some changes the NHS can be salvaged.
Beyond that, not much.
Let's go back to Lloyd George.
Everything post-Lloyd George.
There you go.
What I've always said, I want to return to, you may know the famous AJP Taylor quote, where he's saying that in 1914, on the eve of war, a sensible Englishman could go his entire life without ever encountering the government, save for the postman.
I think that sounds like a very ideal situation to aim to get back to.
Personally, I want as little government.
It's my English yearning to just not have to deal with the government, but I'm forced to every single day.
You might starve to death or die of a tiny infection, but...
Why would I starve to death?
Well, if you didn't have enough money to feed yourself, for whatever reason.
Again, there are things...
You can quibble over some of the reforms.
I'm playing devil's advocate.
And the welfare state, that was an early 20th century thing anyway.
I'm playing devil's advocate.
So, let's go through here.
So, yeah, they argued that the gender recognition certificate entitled to sex-based protections, while four women in Scotland argued they only applied to people that are born female, that being women.
Four women in Scotland said they're grateful for the decision after a long road of legal battles while Scottish charity Scottish Trans urges people, don't panic!
Don't panic!
They're coming to put your penis back on, but don't panic!
Oh, God.
I mean, it was all written down in a full 88-page judgment, which, if you go to the links below, you can go through.
I've not read the full thing.
I'm not going to read the full thing.
You can read the full thing if you want.
So it's not the case that people that have had the surgery, the full chop, that they're actually going to have to have it sewn back on.
As funny as that would be.
That Starmer is extending the Stasi around to sew your penis back on.
No, that's not what's happening, no.
So, Lord Hodge, Lady Rose, and Lady Simler said that the definition of sex in the Equality Act 2010 makes it clear that the concept of sex is binary.
A person is either a woman or a man.
Persons who share that protected characteristic for the purposes of the group-based rights and protections are persons of the same sex and provisions that refer to protection for women necessarily exclude men.
Although the word biological does not appear in this definition, the ordinary meaning of those plain and unambiguous words corresponds with the biological characteristics that make an individual a man or a woman.
So, all very plain.
They point out that the legislation that had been folded into the Equality Act of 2010 was actually from 1975.
It was some kind of women's rights legislation that had been put through, and they pointed out that, listen, in 1975, obviously they meant biological women.
They didn't have a conception.
Or only a very, very early conception of anybody calling themselves a woman who was a man.
Clearly, this was not what the legislation was intended for.
They do also point out as well, again, that it still requires protections for people who are transgender, or call themselves transgender, whatever you want to say, under the protected characteristics that are already still in the Equality Act.
It just means that women...
Are a distinct category that aren't overlapping with those people.
So, recognising reality.
Yes. Put simply, it should never have got this far in the first place.
Won't anyone think of the absolutely tiny number, the vanishingly small amount of true hermaphrodites?
Yeah. Won't anyone think of them?
But the thing is, when it comes to actual hermaphrodites who are born that way, I think everybody knows that they're their own thing anyway.
Everybody knows that that's actually just a medical issue that you kind of need to treat distinctly.
But again, what this seems to me also, it seems to be with a lot of the other stuff that I was discussing with Carl on the podcast the other day, that woke, again, slowly, slowly but surely, by these larger institutions, in many cases the Blairite institutions,
being swept back under the rug.
Not put away entirely.
There's always the chance that, God forbid, if the Tories get back in, we know what they're like.
They'd turn around and say, real wokeism has never been tried!
And they'd pull it all back out and reinstitute all of the worst excesses of woke.
But the Blairite technocrat paradigm requires that society...
Kind of work?
And have a certain set of rules that we all know the definition of and can stick to.
So they didn't want things to go anywhere near as extreme as things got under the Tories between 2010 and 2024.
So they're kind of reversing a lot of that right now so that we can make sure that Blair's real aim, that being digital ID, face scanning technology, everything that makes China what China is right now, can get pushed through.
Because all of this stuff is just a distraction.
To the Blairite paradigm, at least.
But, co-founder of Four Women Scotland says, Again, you can see the celebrations that they had here.
I'm not actually going to play the video because The audio is clipping like hell in this video, so I don't want to blow your eardrums out.
But everybody's very happy.
They're all very thrilled about this.
Who was it that AA was arguing with, ongoingly, about Woke being put away?
Or on McIntyre.
That's right.
So this is a win for the AA column?
Yes. Absolutely, this is a win for the AA column.
Again, I don't think it's quite as simple as woke will just be put away and can never return, but certainly, for the purposes of a paradigm that they're trying to push through right now...
The technocrat stuff, the globalist stuff, they want to have as few distractions as possible.
And this stuff all serves as a distraction.
They've had the over-politicized society for a very, very long time.
And when you have over-politicization, everybody's paying attention to it, right?
And you get lots of people complaining, you get women like Four Women Scotland forming their own organizations and trying to affect change.
That's all very annoying if you're just like, I just want my...
My digital IDs.
Come on, I just want digital IDs.
Come on.
So, they want to sweep all of this under the rug.
This is my read of the situation.
Sweep all of it under the rug.
Depoliticize society just in very easy ways, in simple ways, so not as many people are paying attention as they push through the technocrat stuff.
That makes sense to me.
Keir Starmer did a terrible job of that for a very long time when he first became Prime Minister because, you know, within his first month he had protests and riots on the streets, but they seem to have been...
Getting a bit of a hold of the situation since then, which is actually quite worrying.
You should be worried if people are going to stop paying attention to Starmer and the ways that he is going to try to destroy this country.
And again, there's the thing.
There is a summary of what the case was going into this.
So again, they say that the judgment was all...
Entirely based on the Equality Act, they say about the appeal arising back in 2018 due to the gender representation on public boards of Scotland Act 2018 and associated statutory guidance.
So again, once again, just to remind everybody, all of this is based around what spats over who gets to hit the quotas.
Really. Obviously there's all of the women's safety stuff that can be taken into account as well, which is important.
You shouldn't have potentially predatory men being able to go into women's bathrooms, women's changing rooms and such.
But the actual legislation this was based on was all based around gender quotas.
It was saying, well, if you have to have a quota for this many women, you can also include men in dresses in those quotas as well.
Whereas again, for me, my thing is that I think that there shouldn't be quotas.
Employers should be able to choose whoever they think is the best fit for their business and for their team and whoever can do the best job.
So, anyway, I just wanted to highlight that again.
BBC did some five key takeaways from the Supreme Court rulings.
The main ones here are that public bodies are going to be reviewing the evidence and they will be reviewing their gender policies, but how much day-to-day change we'll see is going to take time to find out.
I already highlighted the London Metropolitan Police situation with the trans officers patting down women.
There's already Equality Act guidance which allows for women-only spaces such as toilets, changing rooms and hospital wards in certain circumstances now that it's clarified that it's biological women.
That makes things simpler for these guidelines.
Wednesday's ruling is straightforward.
Statement that a woman is a biological woman provides a much clearer framework for a lot of debates and a lot of these guidelines will be going forward with these businesses and could see rules changed in various sports as well as a result because one of the things that they wanted to really highlight was the women's sports aspect of this.
Men coming in, outperforming women because...
Obviously they're going through.
Men that usually actually are not competitive in the men's version of that thing, that will kind of easily dominate the women's event of it.
Yeah, it's horrible, isn't it?
What about women's prisons?
Because, I mean...
I think, given that it was all based in Scotland to begin with, I would imagine that the definition being clarified as biological women only means that, yes.
Men will not be able to go into women's prisons because there is a genuine risk there.
And let's be honest, women in women's prisons are not going to be there for the same crimes that men are going to be put away for.
It's going to be a lot less sexual crime, a lot less violent crime, a lot more white-collar crime and non-violent crime.
I've got a little less sympathy for female prisoners, convicted prisoners, than your average girl trying to...
Get on in athletics.
But still, not much less sympathy.
Yeah. I still think it's crazy that a man can just, sometimes even during their trial or after their conviction, say, actually, I'm transgender, so you've got to put me in a women's prison.
That was always ridiculous that anybody went around with that.
And that was, wasn't that, what's the face?
The old SNP hag.
I don't know.
The former first minister, the one before.
Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy Cranky.
No, the one before Yusuf.
The woman?
Yeah, the woman.
Yeah, what was her name?
Sturgeon. Yes, Nicola Sturgeon.
A.K.A.
We Jimmy Cranky.
Oh, was that your nickname?
Yeah. That's fantastic.
There was probably before your time, there was a show in the 80s, a kid's show, and there was a really little Scottish woman, played a schoolboy, but it was actually a woman.
She was like five foot nothing.
She looked a little bit like...
Nicola Sturgeon.
Anyway, with Nicola Sturgeon, it was partially the controversy regarding men in women's prisons was one of the things, and her support for that was one of the things that helped get the media storm around her to take her down.
They also say that trans rights campaigners have said they'll be examining the judgment closely to decide on their next steps.
It's possible that they could attempt to put pressure on the government to change the Equality Act.
Now, wouldn't that be something?
Now, wouldn't that be something?
Again, as long as that piece of legislation is in place, it will always be politicized.
It is a political document.
People will try to shift its definitions and shift what's in it for their own purposes.
But either way, again, we can take a little bit of a win with this as J.K. Rowling has done.
Deal with it.
It's a deal-with-it picture.
I'm shocked to see her smoking a cigar as well.
I saw a lot of people mistaking that it is a blunt, which would have been very funny.
It might be?
No, she's clarified it's a cigar.
Sure it is.
I don't think she'd be posting a picture of her just smoking a big boof with Snoop Dogg just out of frame on Twitter.
But I don't know what she gets up to in her free time.
She's an independently wealthy...
Good on her.
I mean, she's still the feminist type.
Yes. But good on her for sticking by her guns, if nothing else.
Next she just needs to protest the new casting of Snape.
Right. But important to highlight as well, there are other women's organisations fighting for important things in the country, and the most important thing, let's be honest, for women's safety...
Much more of a problem than men in dresses invading women's spaces, as much as that was a problem, is immigration.
So always bring it back to this, importing violent people with different cultural standards and different views of women into the country, and so that's the next big thing that we really need to harp down on.
If women highlighting their safety is actually a good way of getting things done, then let's not forget that the more...
The more violent foreigners we import into the country, the more at-risk our women are.
Every single day.
So I just wanted to end on that note.
There we go.
My screen isn't on.
Have we got any rumble rants?
Yeah, there's a few.
Where is it?
Josh turned them off.
What a bastard.
Lord of Nothing says, I quit my job yesterday.
No more warehouse job.
We are headlong to opening my own tabletop game store.
Oh, fantastic.
That's great.
Good luck with that.
Yeah, yeah.
Hewitt76 and vulnerable girls being transed into boys?
I think that must have been in response to something that we've said.
But I think...
It seems to me...
You don't hear as much about that anymore.
Perhaps that was, as often happens in schools, a trend that's passed by now.
There's probably new fads.
Sadly, those girls who have already taken the procedures are stuck with their decisions, which is pretty horrible.
I just feel like, in a general sense, the male to female transition is just way, way, way more prevalent.
Well, yes.
Autogynophilia. I didn't know if I could actually mention autogynophilia.
Clearly that's what happened with Eddie Izzard, right?
He got dressed up as a woman for ages and then started to fancy himself as a woman and decided, oh, I'm trans now.
Happens to quite a few men, sadly.
Just the perversion that men like to think of themselves as feminine or female in some way.
Okay, that's not...
But the other way around, women insisting that they're a man or want to be a man, in real life, it's not as common, is it?
Yeah, it's kind of an opposite phenomenon as well, whereas the men are overly sexualised and decide to do that.
It's like the Wachowski brothers, the Matrix dudes, one of them said in an interview that basically he got obsessed with tranny porn.
And all of a sudden realised that he was trans himself.
So it's a fetish.
Whereas with women, just look at Ellen Page, just look at the fact that a lot of the girls who did it when they were younger are going through puberty, starting to get attraction from men.
It seems to be a way of desexualising yourself.
I feel like with women as well, once they hit the age where they get really broody, all the other shit goes out the window.
You must have known loads of girls or young women in your time that say they're never going to have kids.
They're not interested in it.
They hit a certain age and it's like, no, I need a baby yesterday.
Well, listen.
It's not a cliche.
I mean, it's a cliche, but it's true.
It's true.
Since I've had my daughter, right?
So last year when we were going back home, introducing her to all of our friends.
All of the girls who were all, you know, alternative, feminist, oh, I'm progressive.
The second they met Lily, they started squeeing.
One of my friends, oh my god, her little hands move!
I bloody hope so.
But then you literally see them instinctually reach for their stomach.
I've seen it happen a few times where they're like, where's my baby?
And now my friends are telling me...
Who are going out with these girls like, mate, what have you done?
What have you done?
She's brooding for it now, man.
You've ruined me.
You've broke the seal, opened the floodgates.
That also often happens in friendship groups.
Everyone sort of gets married and has kids sort of the same time when the wind over just a few years.
Well, it starts the trend because we were the first one in our friendship group to become parents and now it seems to have started the trend of the rest of them or at least the women wanting to become parents.
All the other men are just like, how much does it cost them?
Yeah. I don't know if I can afford that, bro.
How much of my life is dead now?
It's worth it.
It's worth it.
I always just say to them, just like, make sure she's the right one.
Make sure she's the right one if you're going to go all the way.
Get a prenup if you've got any money.
Yeah. Some more rumble rants.
As Carla said, this also means that girls shouldn't be allowed into boys' spaces either.
Make the Boy Scouts...
Boy Scouts again.
That's why I wanted to highlight the Equality Act prevents that sort of thing from happening.
I do think that girls should be able to have whatever imaginary unicorn frivolous nonsense that they want, and we boys and men should be able to get on with serious business, and we're not.
At the Garrick, or men's clubs in general.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, a lot of the, like, things that used to be men's clubs that are still about, I see still mainly have men in them.
But the fact that you can't just outright say it because of laws is stupid, as far as I'm concerned.
Expat Cayman.
Here in the Cayman Islands, I am perfectly within my rights to tell a tranny who turns up for a job interview to F off, with no consequences other than feeling of righteous justification.
Fair play.
I mean, that must be nice.
That must be nice.
And that's a random name.
Say it with me.
Gen Z Boss and No Tranny.
Gen Z Boss and No Tranny.
Seriously though, I once worked with one of those freaks and it made me...
I can't read that next part.
I can't read...
You always send in those kinds of comments, don't you?
But fair play.
It was funny.
Let's hear about space!
Okay, everyone knows I love my science and space segments.
Love my history segments.
Big nerd.
Love my space and science sections.
I feel like talking about the present and just earthly politics is sort of my least favourite of the three, past, present and future.
So, okay, today it's been in the news cycle today that some discoveries of a possible...
A habitable, well certainly habitable, but habitated exoplanet.
So a planet found outside of our solar system which may harbour life.
Now you have to be careful when you do these sorts of things because there's so many fedora tippers.
If you're not very careful with what you say, people will jump on it.
So it's not 100% proven.
So let's start there.
Has anyone named it yet?
I don't want to get carried away.
Yeah, it's called K218b.
I've got something catchier.
Yeah? New Albion.
New Albion.
Oh, I like it.
New Albion, and we can all escape there.
Or perhaps just water world, because they think maybe, again, even this isn't proven, but maybe it's an ocean world where the whole surface is covered in water.
Oh, okay.
We can make it work.
Did you ever see the Kevin Kuzner 90s movie, Waterworld?
No, but it does remind me of the world they visit in Interstellar, which is entirely made up of water and has waves crashing on it, and I think the gravity is so heavy there that it causes a time...
Some kind of time distortion for how long they're on there compared to when they get back to their ship.
Dilation, that's the word.
I've only seen Interstellar once and I really liked it.
I'd quite like to rewatch it.
I've only watched it the once as well.
Yeah. Okay, so this discovery was found by the James Webb Space Telescope.
And anyone that follows this podcast closely will know that I love the James Webb Space Telescope.
In fact, I've written and made content about it a few times before.
There's an article back in 2022.
I called it The Best Thing Ever.
And I'm referring to JWST there.
And that was shortly after it launched from Earth.
It goes to the next one.
I wrote another thing about The Edge of Forever.
I think that's among my better articles, actually.
Where, again, I'm talking about James Webb.
And then I made, with Josh, a couple of pieces of content about...
Yeah, about James Webb.
Two different ones.
His content pleasure is number 83 and number 150.
So you'd have to go over to the website, the lotusseaters.com website for that content.
It's behind the paywall still, I believe, right?
Yes, yes it is.
And if you've not subbed yet, what are you doing?
Beau's going to cry if you don't subscribe.
Josh will cry.
No, Josh won't.
Josh will find you.
He's a bruiser, our Josh.
So it's been in the news cycle.
It's all over the place.
Scientists find strongest evidence yet of life on distant planet is the BBC.
Sky News.
Sky News goes with it.
What have we got?
Retters. We've got a whole number of them.
The Telegraph, The Mail, The Sun, The New York Times, Independent, a whole bunch of...
So just to make the point that it's in the news cycle at the moment, that this is what's going on.
So this isn't new, this planet.
We've known about it since 2015.
The Kepler Space Telescope found it in 2015.
Just to say, we didn't know, even in the early 2000s, we'd never seen any...
Exoplanets, i.e.
planets outside our solar system.
But over the years, because of space telescopes and other things, we now have been able to prove that there's over 5,000, maybe 6,000 exoplanets.
In other words, not only are there other planets around other stars, but they're quite common.
They're really quite common, it seems.
Whether they can hold life, whether they can host any sort of life is something else, but there you go.
So this one we've known for a while, and in fact, when James Webb was brand new up there, starting to operate in 2023, they had a look at this straight away, and it was a very, very interesting one.
At that point, already, some scientists were saying there was a 60%, 65%, 70% chance it might hold life.
We'll talk about why they think that in a moment.
But now, the news today is that those odds have gone up to something like 99%, or 99.7%.
So I want to go through why some scientists are saying that and go through some of the counter-arguments why it's not 100% or why it would be foolish to say it's 100% or anything like that.
Go through some of the arguments where people say, come on, wait, calm down a bit.
Pump the brakes a bit on this.
Let's be realistic and just go through what it is and all the discussion points around it.
So, okay.
We know what we can say for sure about it is that it's about 124 light years away, which is obviously a really long way.
But in the scheme of things, in the scheme of the cosmos, I mean, even in the scheme of the galaxy, it's not all that far away.
Something like 700 trillion miles or 1.14 quadrillion kilometers.
Anyway, it's far enough away to say that if there was any sort of blooming of life there, It couldn't be connected to Earth.
Because if they find life, even microbial life on, say, Mars, or even on Enceladus or Europa or something, you could make the argument that, the transpermia argument, that it came from Earth in some way, somehow, in the early bombardment phase.
Anyway, it's far enough away to say, if it is shown that there's life.
This is life independent of Earth.
Yeah, completely independent.
But so far away that we can't ever get there.
Well, maybe not ever.
Let's never say never.
If we can...
Stuck on this planet with these people still.
Forever. If we can make craft that go close to the speed of light, maybe one day...
Elon, get on.
Yeah. Dear Uncle Elon.
Make it happen.
Forget Mars.
That's far too close.
So, things we can say that we know about it is that it orbits a red dwarf.
Star. So a lot smaller, a lot cooler than our sun, but it's a lot closer to it.
So, well, they think that it's probably liquid water on.
There's certainly water vapour in the atmosphere.
100% water vapour in the atmosphere.
It's in the...
The habitable zone, or the Goldilocks zone, as some people call it.
So, you know, not too close, not too far away.
One thing people have said, oh no, it can't have life on it, even sort of microbial or simple life, like algae or phytoplankton, because red dwarf stars are actually, in terms of radiation, much more violent than our stars,
and they would strip away any sort of atmosphere on a planet that's close to them.
Well... That just isn't the case because it definitely has this planet, K2-18b, definitely has got an atmosphere, in fact, a thick atmosphere, like definitely.
Some people are saying that these solar flares or solar activity that would strip away any atmosphere from a planet, nearby planet, actually, from most red dwarfs, probably only shoot out of the poles of the star.
And so if there's a planet on the plane of the ecliptic, you'll probably be safe from it.
Just telling you the arguments here.
I think, in fact, it's fair to say at this point, isn't it, that we are still really in the infancy of our understanding of the cosmos.
I think that's fair to say.
So nearly everything I say here, and nearly everything scientists say, there are caveats, or there are counter-arguments to say, well, no, that's not a firm conclusion.
So it's all still sort of, well, more than speculation, but there's some things you can say for sure.
There's some things that are just still up for debate.
Okay, it's in the constellation of Leo.
Let's see what other...
We know from spectroscopy, which is the spectrum of the light coming from it.
So when it transits its star, from our point of view, when it passes between us and its star, it's transiting its star, just like we have the transit of Venus.
When Venus passes in front of the Sun, from our point of view, that's the transit of Venus.
So, same thing with this.
When this planet transits its star, the James Webb Space Telescope, with a couple of different instruments on it, MIRI is one of them, I think in infrared, they can see the light from the star skips through its atmosphere and then hits the instruments on James Webb,
124 light-years away.
The instruments are so fantastically sensitive that they can then split out that light, that spectrum, and tell what it's made up of.
What an incredible thing, right?
Spectroscopy. Amazing.
And so they can say for sure, basically say for sure, that it's got lots of CO2 and lots of methane.
Methane's usually a fingerprint for life.
Because otherwise it would dissipate.
So it has to keep being renewed, suggesting that there's some process, might not be life, but some process creating methane.
I mean, at the Blue Lagoon in Iceland, you get lots of methane because of the hot springs and everything.
Right, yeah.
So there's some process going on there.
Lots and lots of CO2.
So it's a smelly plant.
Which is good.
Yeah, it may well be.
Very little carbon monoxide.
Which is poisonous to most life.
Its atmosphere is thick and it's got hydrogen in it.
No oxygen, hardly any oxygen.
So it's probably not photosynthesis going on, which suggests it's either a gas giant or gas planet or an ocean world.
Probably not sort of terrestrial rocky with plants.
It's probably not photosynthesis going on.
So it's still there, but having said all of that...
You can make the argument that there may just be completely different chemistry going on there.
It may be that all these things that to us point to life or suggest life, it's just not the case there.
That is an argument to be made.
There's just a whole different set of chemistry is happening there.
But a couple of the key things...
That suggests that there's life is that it detected two particular chemicals called DMS, dimethanol sulfide, and DMDS, dimethanol disulfide.
I was hoping you were going to say DMT.
Send Joe Rogan there to scope it out for us.
The atmosphere is 99% DMT.
Hell of a way to go.
So on Earth, those chemicals are only really generated by life, and a particular type of life, largely algae and phytoplankton, marine phytoplankton.
So if it's an ocean planet, I would expect that if there is life there, this is all pointing towards some kind of potentially primitive marine life.
Yeah, exactly.
The counter-argument is, well, just because that's the case on Earth, it doesn't necessarily mean that the oceans on K2-18b are filled with phytoplankton.
Because we know, for example, they have found trace elements of those chemicals on asteroids that are certainly lifeless.
We know for a fact that it is possible in lab conditions to create those chemicals.
They've done it since the 1970s without creating actual life.
Make of that what you will.
But on this planet, those chemicals are in a massive abundance.
Something like 10 parts per million, which sounds like a tiny amount, but that's thousands of times higher than on the Earth.
So again, make of that what you will.
It doesn't say it's 100% there's life on this planet, that there's marine phytoplanks on this planet, but it does suggest that it's fairly likely.
As I say, some of the people that have got a vested interest because it's their research saying it's like 99.7% true.
So anyway, when I hear these things, see these things in the news cycle, my first thing is to think, well, this may well be just mainstream media hyperbole.
This may just be, you know, grabbing for clicks and sensationalist headlines.
So I go to a few of my go-to people on YouTube.
So I go to my Dr. Beckys.
I go to my John Michael Godier's.
Yeah, I go to Astrum.
Anton Petrov.
Love Anton Petrov.
There he is.
Hello, wonderful people.
And these are like, just because they've got a YouTube channel, doesn't mean they're not legit scientists, because they are.
So I go to these people to check what they think, because I'm no scientist, right?
My undergrad is history and my postgrad is politics.
So I go to these people.
And this planet came up before.
As I say, we've known about its existence since 2015.
We know it's been interesting, certainly interesting, since 2023.
And about a year ago, 11 months ago, it was all these people, it was in the news at that point, and all these people made content about it.
And they were quite sceptical about it, people like Anton Petrov.
We're quite sceptical about it, saying, look, it's interesting, and it could be that there's life there, but let's not get carried away.
It could well not be.
And they make all sorts of decent arguments, saying the data isn't clear, and another team used the same data and came to a different conclusion, and, as I say, these particular chemicals don't necessarily mean it's an ocean of phytoplankton, and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
But with these new revelations on the new data, same team from Cambridge, I believe it is, saying, no, it's much more likely now than we thought.
And the first person I saw to make a video on it today was John Michael Godier, and he's quite upbeat about it.
He's saying this could be it.
This could be...
It'll take maybe another year or two for the picture to become sort of entirely clear, for the vast majority of scientists to accept that it's...
To all intents and purposes, 100% or 99.999% likely.
It'll still take a while before they can say something like that.
But nonetheless, it's looking kind of pretty good, if you're hoping for that to be the case.
I don't think we can ever really say, or ever in any sort of near future scenario, that it's 100%.
I think we will need to go to Europa or Enceladus and actually find Real creatures before we can say.
But even then, people will probably argue that it's possible that life came from Earth.
I mean, I've written about Europa before.
It's promise.
I've even made a direct appeal to Elon before, haven't I?
Please build a probe and go to Anceladus and Europa, please.
That's one of maybe half a dozen appeals to Elon you've made?
Yeah. One of these days he'll pick up your calls.
I also want to be ship's poet on the first Mars shot, don't I, as well?
Well, of course.
I mean, that only makes sense, doesn't it?
I'm the obvious choice, Elon.
Come on, let's do this.
Old Gil needs this.
Yeah, and I've also...
Somebody cut old Boa break.
Yeah. So I've written about Europa and I've made content as well.
Was it the next one?
Yeah, I did a bit a while ago, just talking about possibly going to Europa and or Anceladus.
So, okay, I suppose the last real talking point to say is that if it does turn out that this planet has got...
Even if it's only primitive, simplistic life, like algae.
That will sort of change the game in terms of our view of the galaxy or the whole universe, really.
We will be able to say that at least primitive life is probably quite common.
Because the building blocks of life, the actual atoms that you need for life, the universe is filled with them.
Just a case of how they're put together.
But if we find something akin, analogous to algae on this planet, then we could say that probably simple life is quite common.
Now, that doesn't mean that complex life or even technological civilizations are common.
It still looks like they are extremely rare.
Well, it's unique, as far as we know, at the moment.
Because we look out into the galaxy and beyond, And find no evidence of, you know, any sort of radio transmissions.
There's no hot blue aliens for Captain Kirk to get off with.
Right, yeah.
Not yet.
Yeah. Let's not mention the Tic Tac incident here, but nonetheless, there's no sort of firm slam dunk evidence.
Certainly our galaxy isn't filled with civilizations beaming things around and building dice and spheres.
Death stars.
But I think a fair few scientists say this, and I go along with it.
I would suspect that the universe is filled, not filled, but it's relatively common, simple life.
So red dwarf stars are the most common type of star.
Something like 70 plus percent of all stars, at least in our galaxy, are red dwarfs.
And something like 80% of those have Planets in the habitable zone.
So we talk about billions and billions of stars.
And even if some of them are able to, even a small percentage of those can support something like phytoplankton, then it will be really common, effectively.
So we'll see, watch the space, if and when more data comes out or more research is done, say something with a bit more certitude, that there is...
Albeit primitive on this planet.
I'll keep you up to date.
So, okay.
There's that.
I hope you enjoyed that segment.
Thank you very much.
And don't forget to keep us up to date on what's going on with the columns under the pyramids.
I'm still very interested to find out what we've been keeping down there and what they've been keeping from us.
So we got some rumble rants from that one.
Alex Trusk get Elon Musk to build the Red Dwarf spaceship with his upcoming generation of robots.
As in the actual...
Ship from the show Red Dwarf.
I'm sure there's a star bug in it as well.
They're all still alive, aren't they?
From Red Dwarf.
Yeah, yeah.
So we can send them all off in it.
You finally get the opportunity.
Hey, I'm just an actor, eh?
No, no, Lister.
Stop complaining.
Get on the ship.
Actually put Chris Barry on the first Marsha.
That would be funny.
Cat. It would be quite...
Dress him up as the cat as well, yeah.
I mean, they still do it every so often.
One of the most recent series, at least in the past, what, 15 years?
I don't know.
The last two seasons.
I love Red Dwarf.
It was a big part of my childhood.
Yeah, it was great.
But the last two seasons, I didn't watch any of them.
I watched a bit of...
I think they did the 10th series in, what, like 2010?
It was okay.
Yeah, I watched a couple of those actually, so maybe it's not the last two seasons.
It was okay, but it was nowhere near the peak.
It was one of the writers quit.
Was it Doug Naylor?
One of the writers...
I think one of the writers quit back in the later series, and then I think...
Not as funny.
I think they all came back for the later ones, but...
For the revival.
Anyway, BaldEagle1787, you guys do realise we've found the natural habitat of the blue-haired, screeching feminist whale.
It's only right that we send them back to where they came from.
I think that's a great idea.
Scanlines, due to the distance of what we've detected, doesn't it mean that currently, that if it is life, it would be much further on from what we're currently detecting?
Well no, only 124 years.
It's 124 light years away.
And the light that we've detected is then that old.
That makes sense.
By the time we ever got there, it would be thousands and thousands of years later.
But no, the light itself is 124 years old.
Skittenhund says, Please drop Harry's skincare routine.
Man is looking very healthy and glassy today.
Nails emoji Thank you for your curiosity.
I shower.
I use men's face wash.
And men's moisturiser, because if I don't, I get very, very dry skin, and it's gross and flaky, so I kind of have to.
Beyond that, working out and sweating a lot while you're working out actually does wonders as well.
Clears the pores.
Yeah, it really does work, and I did, because I wasn't doing weightlifting yesterday, I did an hour of cardio on the Stairmaster, because I'm in a cup right now.
That might also be part of what it is.
I have lost five to six kg.
In the past few months?
Well, I was fat, you see.
I was quite tubby, and now I'm getting back to my prime.
Going to get that 8-pack back.
Yes. Unironically, yes.
Oh, cool.
Yes, I will.
Thank you very much.
It's already starting to come back through.
Anyway, enough of me bragging.
On to some bad news, folks, which is after my recent cancer diagnosis from having to watch, well, see clips of and quotes from the Devil May Cry series that came out on Netflix, I've got another bit of bad news.
Health-wise, which is I've now got AIDS from watching the latest iDubbbz content cop.
I can't catch a break.
I just can't catch a break.
For the record, just for true transparency, you've got neither cancer nor AIDS, let's speak.
No, I do.
I do.
It's a tragedy.
I've not got much longer left, so if you could please subscribe to the website Lotus Eaters to make sure that my legacy will at least have some meaning.
I'd be very, very grateful.
Thank you very much.
In the next state of hate, they're going to say that you're genuinely claiming to have, falsely claiming to have cancer.
Known grifter, Harry Robinson, made an appeal to fans by faking a cancer diet.
Cancer liar, Harry.
Cancer and AIDS, both at the same time.
Nick lols, you know, like, you're just going to have to trust me on this one, bro.
Anyway, so the actual story is that Content Cop is back.
Yay! Is everybody excited?
You don't even know who iDubes is.
I said at the top of the show, I've never ever watched any iDubes.
I wasn't even really sure who he was.
So I don't know what content...
Was it Content Cop?
Content Cop.
Is that his thing, where he goes through other people's content?
That was his thing.
I think the last one before this came out eight years ago.
Self-appointed cop.
Well, yeah, it was a big event back in the day.
So iDubes used to make...
Edgy jokes, edgy content.
He was friends with people like Max Mofo.
He was friends with people like Filthy Frank.
He would appear in their videos as kind of a side character doing really gross things like making a cake out of hair and eating it.
Silly... The dirty senches.
Silly, puerile, jackass-adjacent gross stuff.
Okay. Right?
And that, if I'm honest, is when iDubbbz was at his best.
As a side character.
He's called Ian.
I forget what his original surname was because he took his wife's surname when they got married.
He is now Ian Joma.
And he has become, since the glory days, quite the lol cow.
He is very obviously long-housed to hell.
He has humiliated himself in too many ways to count.
First off, his wife started an OnlyFans.
And then he went on the public record protecting her, defending her from all of these people making fun of the both of them because she started in OnlyFans.
He has...
Someone else do that?
Wasn't one of the other lefty libtard comments?
He was the most famous one to do that.
He tried to do a big takedown documentary on Sam Hyde, which ended up backfiring, ended up restarting Sam Hyde's career in the public, to be perfectly honest.
I think that's the only reason I even have heard of the name is from Sam Hyde.
Dunking on him loads.
Yeah, he tried to do this big thing where he was going to expose Sam Hyde.
Sam Hyde turned it into a big prank.
Tried to convince iDubbbz that he had a crackhead girlfriend.
And that his...
What was it they did?
He goes into this office, which is an old dentist's office that they were working out of.
Not actually where Sam Hyde works.
But he got a load of people to pretend to be his staff and crew.
And they came up with goofy video ideas on a whiteboard.
And then what...
What was it?
He got them all to chant as if it was their mantra.
Think it, dream it, do it.
Think it, dream it, do it.
And iDubbbz is there looking really confused the whole time, wondering what the hell is going on.
And the whole thing turned into a big prank against iDubbbz.
It's all an elaborate ruse by Sam Hyde.
Yes. iDubbbz clearly wanted to do a hit piece documentary on him.
The evil, anti-semitic, far-right Nazi Sam Hyde.
Let's see how he's fallen and what...
He's doing now.
And Sam Hyde turned it into a big prank that completely changed his fortunes and boosted his public profile.
So iDubbbz got the worst of that.
I just wish that Sam Hyde had been able to do the sorts of things that he'd originally been planning on doing, because he only got to do a few of the pranks he was planning on.
They'd come up with some great ideas, like the best one that I've heard was...
Drive Idubs to a bad part of town where loads of gangbangers were and say he would be back in a minute and lock him in the car and leave him there for four hours.
That might have been dangerous, but it would have been funny.
I mean, he did go, like...
Put Idubs in the passenger seat while he was reckless driving.
They went to the underpass of a bridge and started boxing one another.
And Sam was like, come on, join in, Idubs.
Join in, Ian.
Don't worry about it.
And Idubs was just very confused the whole time.
It was great.
It was great.
You should watch it.
What I'm getting from this is don't tangle with Sam Hyde.
Don't try to...
Disingenuously tell Sam Hyde you want to do a documentary when obviously you want to do a hit piece on him.
Because I haven't watched a great deal of Sam Hyde, but I've watched a bit, probably in total two or three hours worth of Sam Hyde content.
He seems based on funny.
He is.
Is that fair enough?
Also, if you see clips from Sam's live streams that he does where he switches the character off a little bit and he gives genuine advice to people, he seems like a genuine...
Smart and insightful guy as well.
All-round good guy.
Big Sam Hyde appreciator right here.
Ian, not so much.
He was humiliated by the whole experience.
Also, it seemed to be part of this larger apology tour that he was going on, apologizing for the fact that he used to do things like, say, the N-word.
In his videos, because he was an edgy boy back in the day.
Back onto Content Cop.
So Content Cop was his prime series for a few years, and it was a huge event whenever one would come out, where he would take on, if we're honest, low-hanging fruit.
Low-hanging fruit.
People like Leafy, people like Keemstar, people like Ricegum.
People like Ricegum was scumbags who were actively pulling scams on their audience, and he would tell them off for it.
Keemstar. There's a lot to criticise with Keemstar.
Easy, low-hanging fruit.
Yeah, I know Keemstar.
I know Leafy.
I've not heard of that other one.
Probably for the best.
Either way, low-hanging fruit, yeah, they're not really steeped in political philosophy or anything.
Leafy, he was mainly making fun of because he had a small chin.
And as part of the video, I think Leafy had accused iDubbbz of having a receding hairline at one point, so Ian decides as part of the video to shave the front of his hairline off and say, now this is a receding hairline.
And I was never huge into it, to be honest, because as much as it was a huge event at the time when they were coming out like 2015 to 2017...
I was late to the party.
I watched them all in 2018 and 2019 with some friends who told me how amazing they were.
And by that point, without all of the hype and context around them, all I saw was a skinny nerd shaving his head in his bedroom, making fun of some low-hanging fruit that I'd never heard of.
Like, another skinny nerd who nobody cared about at the time.
So I was never huge into them.
They had their moments, but they weren't like this big...
Cultural paradigm shift for me.
They were old news by that point.
I was already sort of in my 30s with a job and a mortgage.
And there's also the part that is all based around old drama.
Old drama that didn't matter anymore by the time that I was watching it.
And let's be honest, internet drama has a ridiculously high pace of turnaround.
So by the time the drama's over, it's not that it doesn't matter anymore, it's literally that it basically may as well have never happened.
But, again, as part of it, the biggest one really actually thinking about it was the Tana Mojo one, where he filmed himself going to one of her meetups, put his arm around her, this is quite a famous clip, and said to the camera, And said the N-word.
And it really freaked her out.
So he's since apologised for that.
And he's done the big apology tour.
He went on Hassan Piker and talked about how regretful he was.
That he did all that offensive stuff.
He did this video.
Which came out, when's that?
About two years ago now, called I Miss the Old Idubs, where he's talking about how apologetic he was, how offensive he was back then.
He's quite big.
I can see seven million subs.
Most of those from back in the day.
He built that audience back in the day when he was doing the Edgy Boys stuff.
Quick question.
Is this someone that you should just feel sorry for?
Yeah, kind of.
I feel bad for him because I think, along with a lot of people, Sam Hyde said the same thing.
His wife has ruined him.
I mean, he took a surname.
He's been humiliated as a cuckold through the whole OnlyFans debacle.
The man is a shell of his former self.
He's a shadow on the wall.
And now he's doing these apology tours.
He took on this...
Disgusting rat tail and mustache combo for a long while.
He organized the content, what was it, the Creator Clash boxing events.
The first one was a minor success.
The second one was mired in controversy because Sam Hyde was training one of the people who was going to be appearing on it.
And so iDubbbz decided to get rid of the person that Sam Hyde was training because he didn't want any association with Sam.
Sam tried to buy front row tickets to the event, got barred from it.
And there was all the controversy to do with that that made him look like a coward, because he was a coward, because he didn't want to be confronted by Sam Hyde.
And it was such a disaster, it didn't make the money back that they spent on it.
So it didn't make the money that they'd promised to donate to charity, so instead they did charity streams to try and make that money back and donated, I think, like 250 grand of their own money to give to the charities because it was such a failure.
Because they paid for...
No expenses spared for the people who were taking part in it.
Right. Okay.
So, humiliation from top to bottom.
Somebody well past the prime of their career.
Somebody that you kind of just look on with pity.
It's a classic thing, I think.
Good advice for anyone out there.
If you're trying to make it in the world, you're trying to make a name for yourself, whatever it is, in whatever field you're doing.
Don't hitch yourself to Yoko Ono.
And you think that a quick way to do it is by being a baddie.
Or humiliating yourself.
Resist that.
Don't do that.
It might take longer or you might never get there.
But don't do that.
Well, this isn't necessarily a case of that.
This is a case of a guy like many who was edgy back in the day who has since turned into a massive leftist.
Is that what he is?
His shtick now is being a lefty.
He's a massive leftist.
I mean, he's associated with Hassan Piker and loads of people like that.
But don't feel that sorry for him.
No, well, I feel sorry for him because...
I've said before I worry that it'll end up with a Benoit situation.
He doesn't have kids.
He doesn't have kids.
But I worry because you can only push a man so far.
You can only humiliate a man so much.
I've got very, very, very little sympathy for people that used to be centrist or right-leaning that choose to go left.
Like H3H3.
He was funny back in the day.
Yeah, the really early stuff is quite funny and he was reasonably based.
He certainly wasn't a wokest.
I mean, he was a centrist.
Yeah, a centrist.
He was an anti-SJW centre-left.
Right, at least that.
It was anti-SJW.
Let's say that, at least.
So anyone that chooses then to go left, it's like anyone born and raised in the Western tradition that chooses to convert to Islam.
I've got no sympathy, really, for you.
Yeah, well, I think they call it...
There's a term that they've deemed it now, which is troll's regret.
Trolls regret.
They were trolled back in the day.
Now they feel bad about it, mainly because they've got a nagging woman telling them about how terrible it was.
I can't believe you said that.
That kind of nagging attitude.
And so they get the regret and they like to pull the ladder back up behind them.
Of course, I got big doing this back in the day, but I would never condone people doing it now.
That kind of attitude.
It's insufferable.
But, in the mire of all of this and everything that I've just said, a few days ago, literally five days ago, he suddenly announces, Content Cop returns.
And I...
Sorry, is it Content Cop or Content Chop?
He put Chop for some reason.
I don't know why.
It is Content Cop.
Okay. And I, along with a lot of other people, went, Are you sure you want to do that, Ian?
Are you sure you want to do that?
And everybody was saying, Well, who's it going to be?
Who's it going to be?
Some were...
Even suggesting he might do it on his old stuff.
On the old content cops.
Some were saying he might do...
It would be meta, wouldn't it?
It would be meta.
Some were saying it could be anybody.
Some suggested it would be on H3H3.
Now, I, along with a lot of other people, saw that and went, well, but they're friends.
They're friends.
They've been friends for years.
iDubbbz appeared on Ethan's channel back in the day, back in, like, 2018.
So why would he do it on a friend?
Well, the video came out yesterday.
It was on H3.
It was on H3.
Given that he's friends now with Hassan Piker, and he is a full-blown leftist, whereas Ethan is a...
Well, I mean, he's Jewish, he's married to an Israeli, and he's a Zionist.
Can you guess what the big blow-up is over?
It's Israel-Palestine.
Oh, okay.
It's Israel-Palestine.
So is Idub's pro-Palestinian?
By the sounds of it, yeah.
If you'd told me back in, you know, if I'd known about this content cop back when it was 2015, 2016, 2017, when it was huge, I was too busy seeing friends, going out drinking, to pay attention to random internet drama.
But if you told me that the reason that H3 and iDubbbz would blow up is because of a conflict in the Middle East...
And divisions like that, I would have said that you're absolutely crazy.
But that's just where we are right now.
Do you think Idubs goes into ancient history?
I don't think Idubs knows that much about the conflict somehow.
Theology and the 20th century fallout of World War I. I don't think he's watching Daryl Cooper's 30-hour series on the subject.
No, I don't think he is.
Just to give you an idea of the content of this content cop and the style of humour, the quality of joke that we've got.
So it opens up with a little section where Hasan Piker is there, along with all of these other people who I've never heard of, who are all pro-Palestine.
One of them's wearing a hijab, so I assume they're all a bunch of Islamists.
And this is the quality of joke that we get.
And for those of you watching at home, I'm sorry to put you through this.
I have a very important announcement.
I've finally done it.
I watched Ethan Klein's content nuke.
And I'm not going to call it context.
I am an Islamist, fundamentalist, radical, everything.
How? Wake up, Ethan.
Wake up, Ethan.
Ethan, wake up.
Wakey, wakey, Ethan.
Wake up, Ethan.
Wake up.
Time to be awake, Ethan.
Wake up, Ethan.
I'm sure he's cracking himself.
I think that's about enough of that.
Funny? Get a chuckle out of you?
Oh, was that supposed to be funny?
That was supposed to be funny.
Alright, okay.
This seems to be the overriding image that people got from this.
Right now, which is, um, I can't skip to it, but it's the bit where they're all doing the, like, L and the Fortnite dance behind him.
It's really just not funny.
And then, I watched the full thing, I don't need to play clips from it, because really what this is, this isn't a content cop, it's not going over really anything other than a difference of opinion and personal feuds that Ian...
Well, that Ethan has with all of these extra people that Ian is friends with, like Hassan, who used to do a show with Ethan back in the day, and all of these other people are people that Ethan has insulted over personal differences to do with Israel-Palestine by the looks of it.
So this isn't really even like, okay, Ethan is lying to people, Ethan is misinforming people, Ethan is doing this and that and this and that.
It's personal issues.
It's just a big personal beef that he's made an hour-long video about with a lot of concern trolling and a lot of fake empathy.
Again, iDubbbz is not the kind of guy who would say to Ethan these days, uh, you're being retarded and then throw a load of slurs at him.
Which would at least be entertaining and funny, right?
Now he's going, I really think...
I really think that, you know, Ethan's not feeling well in his mental state.
I think he's not right in the head.
Maybe he should go to therapy.
Maybe he should do this.
And it's all concern trolling, big fake empathy hug box of pure therapy.
I even found myself agreeing with clips that I saw on Twitter being shared of Destiny and XQC where Destiny was saying, just insult him.
Call him a slur.
And we would be better off if you did that.
And XQC saying things like"this isn't content cop, this is content therapy".
This is not what people signed up for when you said"content cop's back", but everybody knew it was going to happen.
Destiny was the other one you got.
Yes, Destiny, by his wife.
But, yeah, this seems like worthless content.
I mean, one of the things I try and do, and I'm not always capable of doing it, but on my own channel and at Lotus Eaters, I try and make content that is at least of some value for a small amount of time, at least.
I try and make evergreen content as much as possible, really, that might, just might.
Standard tested.
Yeah, and or be informative or interesting to people.
But this seems like, this does seem like, Absolutely throwaway nonsense.
It's an hour of nothing.
It's an hour of Ian airing his personal grievances alongside all these other people.
When really the more tactful thing to do, I would have thought, would be to try and have a personal conversation and iron things out that way.
This didn't need to be a video that was made.
But then just to show what's going on is this video, at the end of it, ends with, again, the big fake...
Empathy. Oh, we care so much about you.
We're concerned so much about you.
After you've spent an hour insulting him, defending people who have insulted him, defending people like Hassan who said that 9-11 deserved to happen, defending people.
Like, all of these nobodies.
One of them, I think, Samson, you might know the name, which was the Frog?
Frenko? Frogan.
Frogan. Said that US veterans deserve to get PTSD.
These are the sorts of people that you're defending.
Okay, these are the sorts of people that you're associating with.
But no, Ian...
Ethan... He's got mental problems, that's why he's doing the things, which is just gaslighting.
Not that I'm a huge fan of Ethan or a big defender anymore.
I was just going to say, he's a douchebag himself pretty badly as well, so this is a bum fight between a-holes.
There's two retards fighting.
But somehow, Ian has done such a good job of making himself look like a fake, empathetic arse that I'm rooting for Ethan.
In the retard fight.
You've got to go, Sam, to be more obnoxious.
But he ends it with this big thing where he's like, I'm going to try and be fair.
And so all these people that you've had beefs with, I want them to say something nice about you.
Like you're on the playground and the teacher's saying, you've got to say something nice to one another after you've got into a fight with a bully or something.
And so it ends with this.
And just watch where...
Ian comes completely out of nowhere, with no context, the clip he inserts of himself.
Check this out, okay?
I think that's a big reason why people were drawn to your content in the first place.
I think that's a lot of the reason why your employees chose to work with you over anyone else.
Ethan, I think it's respectable that you even began this journey to leave behind the anti-SGW crowd and step into a more empathetic worldview.
I know it's not easy.
Ethan Klein, I think that when you are being goofy, when you're being silly...
When you are being lighthearted and just having fun with your friends, I think that is when you're at your best.
So I'd love to see more of that.
That'd be sick.
I will be reading my letter off because I don't want to sound robotic.
H3 used to be the sports figure that I used to watch.
I hope that one day gets back to what I remember.
You were one of the inspirations for me to start creating concepts for all of this stuff.
I don't want to sound robotic, so I'm reading.
I hope you really hear this and I wish you the best.
I think Ethan Klein rocks a buzz kind of pretty good.
And I think...
He looks, he's got a good choice of facial hair.
I think it's really cool what he did eight years ago fighting that frivolous lawsuit.
That was pretty fucked up.
And fighting it, you know, he changed YouTube for the better.
And I thought that was cool because I thought it was like, he's fighting for free speech.
You know, I also see the dynamic of Ethan and Neil.
I'm like, fuck.
Like, it's really hard to be a couple online and see people attacking your partner.
And it's like, okay, like if you come to their defense.
That doesn't always help them, right?
Sometimes that makes it worse for them.
And I have been.
So... What's he crying about?
That's the question.
I saw that clip going around on Twitter, and I thought, wait, does he dedicate the last ten minutes of the video to a therapy session or something?
No! It's cut in with no context.
iDubbbz crying to a therapist about how difficult it is to try and defend your prostitute wife.
On the internet.
And it's like, what the hell has happened to you, Ethan?
What's going on, you little bitch?
Like, I'm sorry, all of these problems seem to come from your wife, dude.
You're humiliating yourself by putting that clip in this video.
You didn't need to do that, man.
It's so strange.
Of course, I was going to say, oh, look at how the dislike to like ratio is going.
You can see it here.
Not going great.
People didn't like this video.
It's a terrible, terrible video.
Seemed worse, but that's pretty bad.
Yeah. The people involved in it were posting stuff like this.
Nobody cares about these people.
This is really embarrassing.
See, that image, to me, is the type of thing where if I was trying to be obnoxious...
As uncool as possible.
If I was, for ironic purposes, trying to look like a twat...
I would create an image along those lines.
Yeah. And yet why would any normal self-respecting man do such a thing anyway?
These people are posting it themselves.
This isn't somebody hacking their account and going, what's the most humiliating thing I can post?
Why do they care so much about H3H3, of all things you could pick to make content about?
It seems like you really care loads about it.
It's just petty.
Funnily enough, at the beginning of this video, of his video, he makes a joke saying that people, now that Content Cop is back, are going to want him to do Content Cops on this person or that person, and he name-checks Carl.
So I clipped it, and I put it out on Twitter and just said, do it.
Do it, please.
I want to see you try to take Carl down now.
I want to see what kind of arguments that you're going to make when this whole thing was a personal airing of grievance.
Have they got an old beef then?
No. Oh, okay.
No, but I just want to see...
But, I mean, he's a massive leftist now, so I'd love to see what he would say.
There are, like, people just sharing screenshots, like, what is going on?
Oh, so intimidating.
The dead-eyed...
I mean, Ian, who didn't used to have a lazy eye, but rather like Shawn Michaels, took a blow to the face that gave him a lazy eye.
Yeah, it's part of the most recent creator clash.
Yeah, he got punched in the face so hard that it's given him a permanent lazy eye now.
Shit, that's bad.
Have you seen Shawn Michaels these days?
His lazy eye is basically all the way out because it's got worse and worse and worse over time since it happened to him back in 2004.
So I wonder if 20 years from now Ian's going to be looking a little bit like Sartre.
Oh god, that's terrible.
Sartre's one of the worst ones of all time, right?
It would be funny though.
It would be funny.
People have been...
Posting that clip saying, I can't believe that you would do this.
Here's an artist's rendition.
I think you're doing a bit too much credit to the broadness of Hassan's shoulders, but I've not met him in person.
So Ethan Klein actually found out about this live on air as he was streaming.
The video dropped while he was streaming.
So there's a few videos of him finding it.
The best one is where he's like, yeah, Sam Hyde, he and I have...
Very different politically, but congrats for breaking iDubbbz's mind.
Because I think that you've driven him over the cliff.
That was Ethan's real-time reaction?
Ethan, after he started reacting to the video over the stream.
And yeah, he said at one point, he was like, I mean, you know, congrats to Sam Hyde.
He's a really funny guy.
I think you broke Ian's mind.
And this is the overwhelming picture.
This is what people are going to remember from this video.
It's not going to be the epic dunks and takedowns that you did on H3.
It's going to be you crying like a bitch for no reason about how people make fun of your relationship.
And they should!
They should!
Because if there's going to be another content cop, I've got the perfect person for you to do it on, Ian.
Your own wife.
She needs taking down a peg, buddy.
Reclaim your surname, at least.
For God's sake, this is a notorious clip now from a livestream from a few years ago, and the voice of the woman that you can hear off-camera is his wife.
And watch this.
Well, I want to ask Radjor a question first.
Okay. Radjor...
Wait, we should get Radjor in here.
Okay. Yeah, I mean, if he can.
Well, if he can.
I just want to ask him if you've always been shitting your pants.
No. Because since I've known you, you've always had, like, IBS.
You've always been shitting yourself.
Yeah, well...
Actively humiliating him on stream to the whole world by telling everybody that he regularly shits himself.
Nice. Thanks for that, love.
Yeah. Cheers.
Yeah, so maybe your next content cop, there's an idea for you, buddy.
There we go.
So, rumble rants.
We've got a few.
Bobo Bad, a meager donation for Harry's double cancer AIDS fund.
I will contact a tranny posing as Sarah McLachlan to sing at your funeral.
Thank you very much.
It's double cancer now.
It's double cancer and double AIDS.
Dragon Lady Chris, thanks for showing that clip, Harry.
Now I have cancer and AIDS.
I'm sorry, they're contagious at this time of year.
Alex Trusk, get Donald Trump to promote the Sam Hyde versus Hassan Piker fight.
I would love to see that.
Hassan Piker needs to man up and actually fight.
Sam Hyde.
Hewitt says...
It'd actually be probably about the same weight class, right?
I mean...
Yeah, but Sam...
I feel like Sam Hyde v Idubs is not fair because Sam Hyde's a much bigger man.
But... Yeah.
But maybe with Hasan Piker that might actually work.
I think...
Isn't Hasan Piker literally...
I think he's about my side.
Scared of...
Yeah, I think...
Hasn't people...
Painting him into a corner saying, are you going to fight Sam Hyde?
He just refuses to acknowledge it these days.
I think Hasan's about my size and I think I think Sam's a bit bigger than me.
I think he's like 6'5 or something.
He's a massive guy.
He's a very big guy.
Hewitt says, Harry, you've made me feel like a boomer.
I don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
I tried to fill in the context for Bo.
Hopefully that helps you at home as well.
And Bobobad, check out iDubbbz's brand new series, Content Cook.
That's right, see iDubbbz as he roasts monogamous happy couples.
See him Bargain Hunt for the best observation share.
Pretty sure that was Destiny on Twitch for a while.
But there we go.
It looks like we do actually have some video comments.
Go on, Miles.
See, we play this game of we sniff everything.
When we're gassed out from running, so this is gonna be it now for like 10 minutes till he's comfortable enough starting again.
I love dogs.
Yeah, lovely creatures.
I love dogs so much.
Face recognition software isn't particularly difficult.
I myself have a program that runs on a 15 watt computer the size of a credit card.
Which reminds me, I need to start work on my autogun security system.
Who's that guy on the bottom?
Is that that long-haired hippie who works for Tim Pool?
That's like one of the Tim Pool dudes, doesn't he?
Yeah. Autogun?
What is that?
Just like some automated...
I assume it's an auto-turret system.
I'm imagining twin-linked miniguns that just link onto things and blow them away.
I mean, good luck, but be careful.
Please be careful with that.
So yeah, remember a couple of months ago I offered to help Beau get his books published?
Well, I'm still waiting for you, man.
But in the meantime, if there's any other Lotus Eater viewer who's written a book and doesn't know how to get it published, doesn't know how to format it, doesn't know how to do the cover art, please reach out to me on the website cscooper.com.au and I will happily help you get started.
I'm trying to diversify my revenue stream too.
Well, so first of all, thanks Coop.
Really, really appreciate it.
Second of all, the picture he had in the background there, the Great Wave of Candy Hour, he's got a man of good taste.
Happens to be wearing cufflinks with the same thing on.
Oh, there you go.
So a man of impeccable taste.
Fancy. And as for the novel, I actually did quite a lot of work on it over the weekend just gone.
And I've done a fair bit of work on it over the last six weeks, two months.
And I'm still a long way off.
I mean, months and months off.
Someone asked me on Twitter, actually, over the weekend.
They said, how about that novel?
That novel you've been working on?
How about that novel?
Yeah, the reality of it is it's brutal.
I can't imagine what it's like.
To write something that's 80,000 words long, 150,000 words long.
200,000 words long.
To bring it out of the ether as well, purely from your imagination.
And to make it not complete crap as well.
That's the hardest part.
That's the hardest part.
There's all sorts of skills you need to be able to do it.
One of the things you need in your toolbox is...
Sort of almost an insane self-belief that the characters you're creating and the dialogue you're writing and the narrative you're crafting is any good that anyone would ever want to read it or even pay for it.
You have to have a sort of, to me it feels like, a sort of an insane self-confidence.
I mean, I've got a fair amount of confidence where I've written novels before where I can just keep ploughing through, but you do second-guess yourself a lot.
And it's...
It's difficult.
It's actually difficult.
And for me, it's time consuming because lots of novelists, lots of writers, someone like Stephen King or various writers, they say, oh, I just write every day.
Not a fantastic amount, sometimes only a few paragraphs, but more or less every day I write.
Well, I can't do that.
I need to have inspiration.
I need to be in the right frame of mind.
I need ideas.
I can't just force a couple of pages of...
Fiction. It doesn't really work like that for me.
So I feel like realistically, thanks Cooper, and I will be hitting you up on it.
It will be months yet.
Months and months yet.
Fair play.
As long as you get it done, right?
Take the time to make it what you want, and then it'll have to go through editing.
Well, I don't want to release anything that's embarrassingly crap, right?
And that's actually a bit of an ask.
Too many people in the online spheres have done that kind of thing.
But yeah, when you mentioned Stephen King, I was going to mention him.
Are we not able to...
Oh, we've got Common Sense Crusade.
I forgot that it was Thursday.
Alright, let's go through the next video comment in that case.
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thought I'd give a tip of the hat to the justices of His Britannic Majesty Charles III's Supreme Court, recognizing under the Commonwealth,
Yeah. I'm not having a liberal meltdown.
You're right, Tom.
You're having a socialist meltdown.
On a daily basis, in fact.
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Boom. And it had a Bandicam logo at the top as well.
Not seen that watermark in a while.
So I've just finished doing the calculations on how much is owed to the minority community.
And when factoring in crime, freebies, welfare benefits, etc.
We figure out that the minority community actually owes $4.7 trillion.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Yeah, I think that number is perfectly accurate.
Maybe double it, actually.
Yeah, sure.
Just to be on the safe side.
However much Indy is asking for that, plus change.
Yeah. Anyway, I don't think we've got time for written comments.
If Samson wants to shoo us off the studio...
Oh, right, okay.
Brian Tomlinson, it's ironic that men wearing wigs have decreed what women are.
Fuzzy pirates.
Is there scope to now joining forces with the outraged lefty lunatics and push to removing the Supreme Court?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
No. Don't ally with leftists, because they will stab you in the back the soonest opportunity they get.
Master of Parsnips says, Harry, it's a massive kick in the balls for trans women, but probably not the end of woke.
I'm not saying it's the end of woke, I'm saying it's part of a shift to try to downplay woke and sweep it under the carpet, parts of it, the most egregious aspects of it, for the time being.
It can always be revived later.
Do you want me to read through some of yours?
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, sure.
Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex says, Bo, love your passion for this.
Now tell me more about this thick atmosphere.
Colin P says, yes.
I've always thought that, given the maths, the most unlikely number of instances of extrasolar life is two.
If it happens twice here and out there, it will happen many more times.
Also, Bo, is the Drake equation still considered a viable idea?
I think the concept, yeah, I think that as we know more and more, you have to plug in different values.
But yeah, I mean, sure.
Okay. Kent Pittsburgh says, we should nuke that exoplanet just in case they've got oil.
Yep. Makes sense.
Makes perfect sense to me.
We'll get George W. straight on that.
Russian Garbage Human says, took me a moment to remember the boxing training thing between Sam Hyde and iDubs.
Look it up.
It's quite funny.
He made up this entire training routine, etc.
It's great.
slop content though be warned Sophie Liv reminder when a woman starts trying to push you a man around like that she is testing you if to see if you will stand up to her and if metaphorically you are out in the wild
Yeah, he failed the test.
She's going to leave him when something better comes along.
Probably. And Alex Ptolemy.
Make Bo watch the iDubbed Sam Hyde videos.
Some of the best content ever.
Even just the list of ideas at the start that Sam and co come up with are great.
Dead wasps everywhere.
Talk to him about Pokemon cards like they're some new thing.
Keep asking him for money.
Etc. Those are some great ideas.
I like just keep asking him for money.
Or just talk about the Pokemon cards.
They're great.
I need to rewatch those videos.
Nilarious. I've got all of Sharp to re-watch first, I'm afraid.
Ah, okay, fair play.
I mean, you've got to watch them all so we can do a content.
Yeah, I do also have to.
I've got a lot to do with Root, man.
There's only so much time in the day, man.
Okay, well, so we need to bring it to an end there because we've got more content coming up a bit later in the afternoon.