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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1146

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1146 on Friday, the best day of the week, the 18th of April 2025.
	I'm Harry, joined by Josh, and special returning guests, Voice of Wales.
	Now one of you...
	Looking a bit different than usual.
	What's going on here then?
	Stan's on some changes.
	Yes, he has.
	His trip to Morocco is changing forever.
	So we've got...
	I was actually going to introduce it at the start of the segment, but we was going to give our more attractive host the opportunity to present today, but he's obviously in Spain, so we're going to give it to Steph instead.
	Great start there.
	Great start.
	And on what we'll be presenting today, it'll be talking about foreign doctors scamming us.
	That's a fun subject to return to.
	It is the politicians, but they're also not doing a very good job as doctors.
	They're using the doctors as a scam for us.
	We're also going to be talking about the complete shamelessness of the Carmelo Anthony family.
	Samson is pointing to me.
	Apparently one of the links seems to be down, and if it's the link that it appears to be, I can only say good.
	But I'll get onto that when we get onto the actual segment.
	And we're also going to be talking about the Bimbo Sex Olympics, is how we've put it in the description.
	So that should be interesting.
	Is this going to be one where, you know, it's going to be difficult for me to hold my dinner down?
	Yes. For a long time.
	Fantastic. I only ate relatively recently.
	Brilliant. Well, we'll look forward to that.
	And also we've got Lads Hour coming up after this at 3 o'clock as usual where we'll be talking about movies.
	So please stay tuned for that.
	I think it's the first one that Dan has hosted as well.
	Yeah, possibly.
	I think so.
	It's nice having Dan on last week.
	Oh, he hosted it last week.
	Oh, right.
	I wasn't here then.
	Never mind.
	I was.
	Was I?
	It all blurs.
	It all blurs together.
	Anyway, so, yeah, get a membership, you cheapskates.
	Watch us talk about films on Lads Hour.
	Talk about the news, Josh.
	News. There you go.
	Done. Good Friday.
	Oh, yeah, also happy Good Friday to everybody.
	It's more than a Good Friday.
	Yes. Terrible.
	So, anyway, I wanted to go over something that has perhaps not received as much focus as it should, and that is that we've heard...
	Many times that we need immigration for our NHS.
	Yes, yes.
	Worship the NHS.
	It's our new idol.
	It's our cargo cult.
	It is, yeah.
	Except it's a load of nonsense.
	And, in fact, we've been turning away loads of our own domestic doctors, which, of course, quite often the taxpayer covers the loans that they take out to study, and they're there for, what, five to seven years sometimes.
	We're paying a lot of money for these people to be trained, only for them to move abroad and then we import foreign people.
	And the reason they're moving abroad is because we're passing over them for jobs and we're like, you know what we need?
	We need a witch doctor from Africa.
	We need someone from India who has used ChatGPT to cheat their way through their qualifications.
	That's what we need for our doctors.
	So this is the country of qualification 2023 recruitment data.
	I think this is the most recent data we can get.
	And it has breakdowns of applications made.
	Appointable applicants and then offers made.
	And I think offers made or accepted offers is probably the best way to go.
	Let's see who the NHS is actually seeking out first.
	So you can see that for some of these disciplines, because it breaks it down by specialisation, there is a significant number of UK applicants to the rest of the world and the EU.
	So you would perhaps expect this.
	It's not too bad.
	But the problem is the frontline medical staff that most people come across are GPs, general practitioners.
	If we scroll all the way down to G, because you can see for some of them, you know, foreign people outside of the EU, significantly outnumber it.
	It's very discipline dependent.
	Here you see dermatologists very much UK, rest of the world less so.
	But then you start going down to general practitioner and it's not so much...
	Outside of, within the EU, sorry, it's more so outside of it, which is unfortunate, because with medicine, with things like that, you want the best in the world, right?
	You don't want a doctor that is a diversity hire, because it doesn't matter where in the world they come from, you want the best treatment, right?
	And it seems that it's almost now parallel between doctors that are being recruited.
	Domestically, and this of course doesn't necessarily mean they're British either, and doctors that come from the rest of the world outside of Europe.
	And that of course could mean, you know, North America, Australia, South Africa, places like that.
	But it can also mean people from countries that don't have the same infrastructure as us.
	We could get, you know...
	A doctor from Ethiopia who's not even been in a medical facility as advanced as ours and they will be considered just as much so.
	And of course the way we recruit doctors, we tend to value foreign qualifications as equal as our own and that's not the case most of the time.
	And this has been shared in lots of different places to do with doctors and they've gone through and they've tried to figure out why they can't get jobs.
	And they've been talking about this.
	Lots of people have been saying how, you know, it's unfair, things like that.
	And then you see rhetoric like this.
	This is from the BBC.
	This was only last month.
	They're saying how migrant workers are saving the NHS from crisis.
	And that's not exactly true, because actually many of our domestic doctors can't get jobs.
	And as we saw...
	They're going to the rest of the world.
	They're not even seeking out European doctors.
	They're seeking out doctors from anywhere, really, which explains why there are lots of problems, and we're going to be looking at some of those as well.
	You can also see it from The Guardian here.
	In an NHS ward, I saw how Britain relies on immigrants, yet still we tell them they're not wanted, when in fact, as the data here shows, it's more that they're being sought out.
	These are all of the offers given to foreign doctors.
	It's about 50-50 from domestic doctors to outside of Europe doctors.
	I mean, if we were going to hire them from anywhere abroad, I'd sort of want them from Europe, North America, Australia, somewhere like that.
	You can even see that things like general surgery, they're outside of Europe.
	And so that comes with all of the problems of basically coming from the third world.
	Yes, they have...
	Potentially very, very corrupt standards over there where you can pay for degrees, they'll have degree mills in some countries, and they will not even necessarily, even if it is a legitimate degree, have the same Educational standards as us, passing through these things.
	And even domestically within the UK, we've seen a number of people who are of foreign extraction bragging about the fact that they have been helping their own relatives to get these kinds of qualifications for their degrees, where they've been filling in results for them,
	filling in answers on exams and such, to make sure that they can get these degrees.
	And then were complaining about it when people started to point this out.
	They were talking about how, oh no, Cracker's going to try and keep a brother down.
	They're saying those exact words?
	Something to that effect, because we were pointing out, hey, maybe you shouldn't be basically forging your own qualifications here.
	And there's also the aspect of understanding one's culture and language, in that if you're communicating something as important as...
	Yeah. You know, communicating to people of varying levels of intelligence in the general public, you probably want relatively good English language communication skills.
	You're not going to have that from abroad.
	It's just not the case.
	And there's this thing called bedside manner, which is very important, which is part of communication skills as well.
	It is, yeah.
	And also, you'd imagine, you know, if it is to do with medicine, what the information they have to relay is going to be of importance.
	So whoever they speak to, to pass the information on, they have to be able to understand it clearly.
	And we know that that's not, you know, there's a lot of, I know a lot of people in the NHS in Wales, in Swansea, and they say, you know, the biggest problem is a lot of staff, they don't even speak English.
	They don't attempt to.
	So there is a huge gap, you know, in the hospitals of people who speak in English and people who aren't.
	Well, that just means that they can't do their job properly, really.
	Exactly, yeah.
	And this is being actively sought out because, as we'll get onto in a minute...
	The white native doctors are being actively discriminated against and deliberately.
	We can see that there are some publications talking about this sort of thing.
	The NHS can survive without mass immigration.
	This one is titled.
	This is from last month as well.
	It's sort of come up a little bit.
	I like the fact that in the tags there they've got Boris Wave.
	That is the perfect thing.
	I mean, I would argue it would improve.
	Without mass immigration?
	Yeah, it would, of course it would.
	The standards of the doctors, the fact that they can actually communicate with us, the actual demand for the services.
	I think what it does for the whole of the UK as well, the amount of people who are skilled and qualified, that can't get jobs, who would be in work.
	How many thousands of people would that be that would be in work that now aren't?
	That's obviously going to be a benefit outside of the NHS for the whole of the UK as well.
	Yeah, I think it would survive without mass immigration.
	It would do, yeah, a lot better.
	And we've got this.
	And this was a bit of a surprise when I first heard about this sort of thing.
	So this is a story of a lady who's graduated and she basically won't be able to have a job next year.
	And I'm going to read a little bit from it.
	Not very much, though.
	So it says, resident doctors have said they're going through a really awful time of decreasing job security with an estimated 20,000 expected to miss out on an NHS specialty training place this year due to sharp increase in competition for posts.
	I wonder where that sharp increase has come from.
	Is it just that everyone in Britain is really keen to be a doctor?
	Maybe people have got really good grades and they've got into university.
	No, it's not, obviously.
	it's foreign doctors and we're deliberately competing with our own homegrown doctors who are better for the sake of looking good on paper to bureaucrats.
	And it carries on to say, partly due to a rise in the number of UK medical school graduates and also the removal of a test which previously required foreign qualified doctors to demonstrate they were needed in the UK, which
	Which, if you were to have immigration, I think that demonstrating that someone is needed would be one of the base things you would want to do.
	Because you don't want to bring in people that are redundant.
	But apparently they do.
	Because, of course, they are foreign and therefore better than us.
	And here's another one which I couldn't believe.
	GP's working as Uber drivers because they can't find jobs as medics, one of unprecedented crisis.
	So yes, there are people we've trained, sunk, you know, hundreds of thousands of pounds in training them because, of course, they've spent all that time at university, funded by the taxpayer, and now they're working as...
	Basically taxi drivers, which is a massive waste of their qualifications.
	They could be doing things.
	People talk about NHS wait times all the time.
	Forget about it.
	Apparently, this is according to the British Medical Association, one in five GPs in England are already planning a career change because they can't find enough work.
	Which is, given the amount of...
	Problems we have with the NHS, you'd think that they would have abundant work, but apparently not.
	And I'm going to skip over that because I've been over it already.
	So I'm going to read this.
	So it says, this means that whilst 9,702 applicants were allocated to a foundation school, applicants blah blah blah blah blah, Where is it?
	Okay, so consistently top 10 to 20% of my year and won two prizes in the fourth year to be randomly allocated to the bottom of the entire UK.
	Okay, I remember what this was now.
	I prepared this a little while ago.
	So doctors used to be allocated to their desired profession and desired location based on merit.
	So those who did the best got to pick and usually got what they picked because you want the best people going to the places that...
	They want to go to because you want them to be satisfied because you want them to be, you know, a practicing doctor for as well as possible because you want to benefit from their expertise.
	But now this is explicitly because of diversity and we can see this.
	I'm going to read this exactly.
	Medical students have also had to cope with a change in the way their regions are allocated.
	As part of the process, they have to list each foundation school in order of preference.
	Previously, people were allocated according to merit, with each student ranked according to how they had performed during their studies in an application test, but this year that has changed and has been done randomly.
	The logic behind it...
	I feel like I'm about to sneeze.
	Is that the previous system was stressful for students and was particularly unfair on those from deprived backgrounds and ethnic minorities.
	So that means that basically people who are poor and not white did worse on the tests and therefore that's somehow racism rather than just a real world difference that...
	Would have been unavoidable no matter what.
	It must have been purely socioeconomic factors.
	Exactly. They tended to perform less well and therefore were more likely to be posted to regions they did not favour.
	Which, in my opinion, if you do less well, you should have less say.
	That seems like a perfectly good system.
	But what this does incentivise is that people don't need to do well in their exams anymore.
	They don't need to be good doctors anymore because it doesn't matter.
	You just need to pass, you get stuck on a list, and you get randomly allocated.
	So there's no incentive anymore to actually be good at your job other than perhaps to avoid being taken to court for malpractice or, you know, going to prison, which is awful.
	I mean, the second-order effects of this are catastrophic because it's basically putting a ceiling on how competent people want to be because it doesn't matter anymore.
	This is all just so beneficial for everyone, given that we're talking about medical practice.
	It's so frustrating.
	Quite an important topic.
	You'd want your best doctors to be happy, job-satisfaction, and comfortable in doing what they do.
	You want to incentivize them as much as you can to stay and keep doing the good work that they're doing, not treat them like this, because it's just going to turn them away.
	The best doctors...
	Well, exactly.
	I very much agree.
	It's been pointed out as well.
	And be like, oh, are you here because you're the best for the job?
	Nope, picked out of a hat.
	Oh, fantastic.
	Can I go see someone else, please?
	I don't even have a doctor's surgery.
	It's just a waste of time.
	Never get an appointment.
	Josh lets nature heal him.
	That's right.
	Bit of natural selection.
	It's been pointed out by many people that...
	People will just do the bare minimum and also it disincentivises people from staying in the profession in the first place.
	And we're actually seeing this as well.
	Here someone had spoke to a bunch of doctors and apparently loads of them had gone from being very in demand to either considering changing profession or leaving the country entirely.
	I think a lot of people go to the US and Australia.
	Yeah, it's just a terrible thing.
	And so I wanted to look at some of the other consequences of hiring lots of foreign doctors.
	And unfortunately, some of the news is from a period of 2013 to 2019, because that was the last time it was in the news cycle, which raises another sort of concerning question of, well, over the past six years, why has no one been looking at malpractice?
	But that's by the by, unfortunately.
	Foreign doctors are 13 times more likely to be investigated for incompetence because of problems grasping English.
	And so out of all of the nationalities, only South African doctors were less likely than British GPs to face investigation.
	And I imagine that's a very specific kind of South African doctor.
	I was going to say, what kind of South African?
	I don't think it's the Zulu witch doctors, to be honest.
	I mean, we do have an increasing gin problem.
	That's true.
	As the NHS is highlighted.
	That's not the spirit, that's the genie.
	The NHS actually has a witchcraft division now because of our lovely Islamic neighbours and their beliefs.
	So yes, that's actually something the NHS staff are now being consulted on, is if people believe they've been possessed by a genie.
	And that's apparently actually a real problem.
	I've never met one.
	Not yet.
	That's how they get you.
	If you think they don't exist, then they sneak in.
	No tax money at work, folks.
	So if I scroll down and talking about a competency crisis, this table is terrible.
	Horrible colour.
	And all in caps.
	But it's also difficult to read the numbers.
	But enough about me being slightly autistic.
	It's not even in line with it.
	I know, exactly.
	Well, is that...
	Bangladesh, incompetent.
	Is that the...
	13 times for Bangladesh, 8 times for Egypt, 8 times for Nigeria, 7 times for Iraq, 6 times for Germany.
	I wonder which kind of Germans.
	6 times for India, 5 times for Eastern Europe, 4 times for Greece, sorry Stelios, 3 times for Ireland, and 2 times for the rest of the world.
	So it seems like actually we've got some very competent doctors based on this because...
	You've got lots of European countries there that are still three, four times, five times worse than our doctors.
	So why are we getting rid of them?
	And this is eight years ago, before the Boris wave.
	That's true.
	So it's going to be even worse, which is just frustrating.
	And here's the Telegraph.
	This, I think, was two months ago.
	The NHS is being flooded with doctors from poor countries.
	We have no idea if they're competent.
	And finally, people are actually picking up on this.
	This has been going on for a very long time, actually.
	But it's finally sort of pervaded the mainstream somewhat, at least in the Telegraph, that the qualifications they've got, you can just pay someone off to get those.
	And, you know, the way things are, standards are so low these days, they can probably just about get by.
	And they're talking about them fleeing to Australia as well because, spoiler alert, Australia treats their doctors better than we do and is actually mostly British these days.
	In fact, doesn't Australia...
	You'll know this, Harry, I think.
	Doesn't Australia have a higher percentage of ethnic British people than Britain does now?
	I heard that going around.
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't be surprised, but I consider Australian people...
	Actual Australian people, British in the first place.
	That's a term of endearment, by the way.
	Yeah, I know that they've got a big problem with a lot of Chinese and Indian immigration, though, so that might shift.
	So, I wanted to go through some of the concerns, and this is just going through the last time this was in the news cycle, and you might notice a little bit of a pattern.
	Yes, this is his real name.
	His name is Devinder Jeet.
	This is from 2013.
	Yes, I know.
	He magic strikes again.
	He was jailed for filming his abuse of patients.
	That's not funny anymore.
	No. Why you would film a criminal act, I do not know.
	I think it was for some sort of strange sexual gratification.
	And yes, this is not the only one.
	Here is Lamho Yo.
	I don't know whether I'm pronouncing that right.
	He's a doctor who in 2014 spied on patients as well.
	And here's another one.
	Married Pakistani A&E doctor faces being struck off and deported.
	Don't think he actually got deported.
	For repeatedly groping patients' breasts and putting his hands in her pyjama shorts before telling her they'd be friends forever.
	Dear me.
	There he is, look.
	And coincidentally, a guy with the exactly same name as him, Saeed Bakari, was also caught out in Ireland.
	He was jailed for drug driving.
	I just thought that was a weird coincidence that another doctor of the same name.
	Around the same time was jailed.
	Not the same guy, though.
	He looks very different.
	But here's another one.
	April 2018.
	Cyprian Okoro.
	He is Nigerian, I believe.
	He was struck off after sending a picture of himself to a patient naked, which is a bit strange.
	And apparently he was pestering the woman.
	To try and hook up with him, basically.
	And apparently he kept on sending her nuisance calls and messages.
	And when she said she would report him, he said no one would believe her due to her mental health problems.
	He's taking advantage over a mentally ill lady.
	But apparently they did believe her and I think he was struck off.
	Should have been imprisoned as well, really, for that sort of thing.
	She'd have the picture.
	I know.
	It's pretty easy to prove if you've got messages.
	And then here's another one as well.
	This is from 2018.
	I don't even know how to say his name.
	He's an Iraqi doctor.
	There he is.
	He took 19,000 secret images of women over six years in his surgery.
	And they caught him after all that time.
	Very creepy.
	And then the final thing I wanted to end on here.
	Foreign doctors are revealed to be behind 60% of all sex assaults on patients, but NHS wants fewer of them taken to disciplinary hearings.
	Because of course they do, because the NHS is a socialist enterprise, and they're looking out for their own, which isn't the native population.
	So yes, native doctors are being overlooked, and we're importing people who are multiple times more incompetent, and also...
	Disproportionately more likely to sexually assault you.
	So, yes.
	I suppose that's a warning.
	Sorry, Harry.
	Have we got any rumble rents?
	We've got a fair few, yes.
	Yeah, we do, actually.
	Harry, can you move to the left, please?
	You want me to move?
	You're too far to the right, Harry.
	You need to move.
	You're trying to keep Josh and I even more separate.
	What's going on?
	He's trying to break us apart.
	I can't find the mouse.
	Where is it?
	Oh, it's over there.
	Are you happy now?
	My leg is brushing up against the desk.
	Is that okay now, Samson?
	Do you want to crack the whip anymore?
	Come back again.
	Would you like some tea and a back rub while you're at it?
	Oh, yes, please.
	No, not you.
	Oh, why not?
	Well... Harry, we do that all the time.
	Not on camera.
	Not these cameras.
	That's true.
	That's foreshadowing for the last segment, I think.
	OPH UK says, it all makes sense when you realise the British government hates the people for whom Britain was built.
	Those people are in the way of globalist paradise, so they can't be castigated and humiliated enough.
	Spinner Pete says, a certain nurse doing life in prison to hide the incompetence of diverse doctors and staff.
	I imagine you're referring to Lucy Letby.
	I've not actually heard that angle before.
	That's interesting.
	There's a rumble of it, isn't there?
	There is, yeah.
	One thing that did strike me as a psychologist is that she wrote in her journal, just for herself, just like, have I done this deliberately and I don't know?
	Am I evil and I just don't realise it?
	Which... If you're an evil person, you don't ask yourself those questions.
	You could be mentally ill in some way that's not been detected.
	I don't know.
	I've not looked into it.
	But there are certainly questions there.
	And that's a random name.
	Twice says...
	Can I read this first?
	I think so.
	Lipsmack. Whitey don't need to axe me if I gots my credentials.
	Fingersnap. This black queen don't need no creds.
	All y'all white people racist and she starts twerking.
	I gave it something, alright?
	You got your value for that dollar.
	Josh is not a theatre kid, so you've only got to expect so much from him.
	Yeah, I feel like a cheap...
	Performing monkey?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Throw me a dollar, I do impressions of black people, apparently.
	That's a random name again.
	All jokes aside, my sister is a doctor here in Montreal.
	During COVID, they accepted a blind guy in the doctor's programme in uni, and when they realised and tried to kick him out, he sued them.
	That's unfortunate.
	When they realised what?
	When they realised he was blind, or when they realised he was naff at the job?
	I'd imagine one has something to do with the other.
	There is a bit of correlation there, I reckon.
	The passing of the mouse.
	Thank you very much, Josh.
	So after that fun segment, it's time for another...
	Fun segment.
	This is a follow-up to the segment I did on Wednesday, talking about the Austin Metcalf, Carmelo Anthony case.
	Have either of you looked into that?
	Yeah. What's going on in America right now?
	I watched the segment.
	It was a good segment.
	Oh, fantastic.
	Well, just to very quickly go over some of the details, if you want the full story, watch that segment.
	I was quite happy with it.
	But basically, Austin Metcalf, Carmelo Anthony, never met each other before, going to different schools.
	The schools were doing a joint track meet or something.
	Carmelo Anthony, a young black kid, 17 years old, comes to sit under the tent of the opposing school.
	Austin Metcalfe, 17-year-old white kid, goes to tell him to go under his own school's tent.
	Carmelo Anthony basically provokes him into an altercation, pulls a knife on him and stabs him once in the heart, runs off, leaving him to die in his twin brother Hunter Metcalfe's arms.
	Horrible, tragic situation.
	Some were trying to argue that this was self-defense, some were making up stories that Austin Metcalfe was a bully who had priors with this guy, and then it came out that they'd never met each other before, and the witness reports that you can read in the police report, which has been released online due to a Freedom of Information request,
	shows you the witness reports are saying that, yeah, he just came over, he sat there, he was asked to leave, and then provoked the situation.
	it seemed that given that he was carrying a knife and provoked the situation that he was either doing something wrong in the first place by going under the tent, this is pure speculation but some are speculating that he may have been
	That's what I think probably happens.
	It wouldn't surprise me at all.
	Or he just went over there to try and provoke a confrontation in the first place.
	Either way, open and shut self-defense case.
	Obviously there's going to be complications when it goes to trial because we know...
	How people in the juries behave, we have the experience of the OJ trial, we have the experience of the Derek Chauvin trial, where activists will try to get into the jury so that they can influence the case for the purpose of racial grievance mongering.
	But taken on its own, analysing the facts of it, clearly this was not self-defence.
	Clearly this was a murder.
	There was no excuse for it.
	Even if there was a confrontation between some school kids, you know, I went to school.
	There were confrontations in school.
	I never stabbed anyone.
	In fact, most of the time people didn't really actually want to hurt each other.
	You might be annoyed at someone.
	It was a shoving match at the end of the day.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	There was many incidents in my school where all the kids would gather around chanting fight, fight, fight, and you'd look and it was two guys who didn't know how to fight.
	Violently hugging one another and giving each other pats on the back.
	That's all it ever ended up being.
	Forced into the situation by the hundreds of people around and screaming fight.
	What we wanted is gladiatorial combat.
	Apparently they could have got gladiatorial combat with these kinds of students.
	But there's been development since then which is that As we kind of got a hint of, the broader community who have rallied around Carmelo Anthony and his family have shown themselves as being completely tribal and utterly shameless and they're trying to turn him into some kind of...
	PR win civil rights icon.
	One of the first things that they've done now is release POV footage recorded on somebody's Ray-Ban meta glasses of...
	People actually wear those?
	Yes. Of Carmelo Anthony.
	I'll just play this.
	You don't need to hear the audio.
	Of him with his handlers walking out after he was released on bail.
	If you want the story regarding the bail, go to the segment I did on Wednesday.
	I like how he murders a white person and black people treat him like he's a celebrity now.
	Is that how much contempt they've got for white people in America?
	I mean, they've donated all that money.
	There's a significant enough portion of them who are happy and...
	Eager to rally around this guy as a cause, as a signifier of their oppression.
	All he did was murder someone.
	All he did was murder someone for no reason.
	I can't believe he's up on bail.
	Well, again, there were some patterns I noticed in the judge who lowered his bail and all of the people that were supporting him, but I have a non-functioning frontal cortex, so I can't notice patterns,
	sadly. There was also developments of, you know, if it was my family member who had clearly murdered somebody, I would maybe, you know, as a family member, you'd want to...
	Do something, but I wouldn't just, without any reservations, support them and treat them as if they'd done a good thing.
	Anthony's family, on the other hand, here's him with his grandmother, posting my grandbaby.
	Very young.
	Yeah, very young grandmother.
	She's got less wrinkles than I do, blimey.
	Yeah, but she's posting my grandbaby with this lovely picture of her and him together.
	Now, again, you love your family unconditionally, but you do not support everything that they do unconditionally, especially if they've murdered somebody.
	The Anthony family, on the other side...
	The normal thing to do, at least in Britain, is if someone murders someone else unprovoked in your family, you disown them.
	I mean, I don't think there's...
	You've brought shame upon the family, I can't believe you've done this, our name is going to live in infamy forever because of you, etc, etc.
	There are ways of treating this situation.
	But this is how the Anthony family are treating the situation.
	They're going along with this, they're treating him like he didn't do nothing.
	He didn't do nothing wrong.
	It's only because of Whitey being an oppressor that he's even considered to have done anything wrong, because really, Austin Metcalfe, from this perspective...
	Was asking for it, which is what we'll see has been part of the reaction from a significant portion of the black community in America who've rallied around this.
	One of the most disgusting things was there was the footage that came out originally after this of Austin Metcalfe's father saying, listen, I don't want this to be a racial thing.
	I don't want this to be politicized.
	I'm trying to keep the fort down.
	I've already forgiven him.
	And Anthony's handlers decided to run a press conference.
	Where they gave the opportunity for Anthony's parents to speak about the situation and kind of give a message to the broader community who are interested in this and paying attention to developments.
	Austin Metcalf's father decided to show up there.
	Presumably because this is a situation he's obviously very interested in, right?
	He wants to see how things are developing.
	He wants to see what they have to say for themselves on their son's behalf.
	Well, he got kicked out.
	He got kicked out.
	Dominique Alexander, who is the main handler of this situation for the Carmelo Anthony family, got the authorities, got the police to escort him out.
	I would have thought that if he was in a place where he didn't belong, that would mean they're justified to stab him in the heart, right?
	No, that's right.
	He would be justified to stab them.
	In the heart.
	And then we would all rally around him and say he didn't do anything wrong.
	It was self-defence.
	No, but he gets kicked out.
	So he preaches forgiveness.
	He preaches that there shouldn't be a politicised issue.
	That you should see the events as they develop and not rush to any major conclusions.
	They, on the other hand, get him kicked out.
	And then go out of their way to say it was disrespectful for him to come here.
	This is Dominique Alexander.
	Father of the murdered boy.
	Yep. Now, this was Dominique Alexander.
	Don't be fooled by the fact that he's wearing a full suit here.
	I've seen the pictures.
	He's wearing trainers with this suit.
	In fact, you can see here.
	Look, there he is.
	He's got his full suit on and presumably his Air Jordans as well because stereotypes are...
	They don't miss sometimes, do they?
	But here's what he had to say.
	I apologize for putting you through listening to this man because it does sound like he has a mental handicap, but this is just the way that some people in America speak.
	And all I'm going to say, so it don't be asked later, is that was disrespectful and just shows you all the character who is not invited,
	he knows.
	That is inappropriate to be near this family.
	But he did it.
	And so I say to people, actions speak louder than words.
	Okay? What he has failed into is the political operatives that want to make this thing a political thing of hate, yet bigotry, and yet racism.
	We have Conservative operatives that have been posting non-stop about this case.
	Now, reminder that this guy is a black racial grievance grifter and activist who has organized many protests in Dallas, Texas against evil racist police brutality, and one of those in 2016 actually descended into activists on his side shooting five police officers.
	And now he's the one preaching that this shouldn't be racialized, that this shouldn't be politicized, that it's disrespectful of the father of the murder victim to show up to this press conference, while also barely being able to speak English.
	I mean, remember on Wednesday, as one of the clips that I played, showed that instead of claiming self-defense, he was claiming self-deflence, which didn't seem to be a slip-up because he said it numerous times in that exact way.
	But this is the kind of guy they're getting to represent.
	And a reminder of who this scumbag is, is that he has been arrested countless times.
	Almost like a dozen mugshots of him over the years where you can track his aging and his progress and the different styles he's tried out.
	Yeah, he shook a two-year-old in 2009 until the child suffered a brain hemorrhage and until his retinas detached.
	He suffered retinal hemorrhages.
	This guy?
	Did he go to prison for this?
	He spent eight days in jail.
	Eight days?
	Eight days in jail.
	Here's the judge who made that decision.
	Now, it's a shame, again, that I'm retarded and can't recognise patterns right now, or else I might be coming to some pretty worrying conclusions.
	There's more from this press conference as well, which is that Sarah Fields, who I referred to on Wednesday, had made a number of posts talking about this guy's background.
	She was the one who put in the Freedom of Information request to get the police arrest report, which had some of the eyewitness statements that were taken down.
	She also made some allegations that his organization, I think Next Generation Action Network, keep changing their name every few years whenever it's time to start filing tax reports to the IRS, which may be an allegation that they
	might be trying to avoid having to pay any tax.
	Um... He decided to target her and complain about her posting freely available information from the internet about him.
	Sarah Fields.
	Never heard of this woman.
	This is the kind of despicable thing that led to the father being here.
	motivating this family with hate.
	Information really.
	Carmelo Anthony posted on something...
	Remember, he's the victim here.
	Posted here.
	These are the type of lies that are threatening this family.
	Posting the family's picture.
	See?
	She's getting millions of views on this.
	Sarah. She's even came after me.
	She's even said all of those things.
	And now that the public knows exactly what is going on.
	Reminder that this is freely available, factual information that you can find easily through a Google search of this guy's name with the keyword"Arrest." So he's being held to account and doesn't like it and that is somehow a problem that is political and racially motivated even though it's entirely obvious that all of the people On his side of things.
	I'm just motivated by hating white people.
	And financial gain that they can get from him.
	It's my sort of old rule of thumb that most of politics is just resource extraction.
	It's so very obvious when it's this.
	Yeah, and it makes sense as to why he would try and play this game, because he's been winning this game for most of his adult life, given that he has done repeated, heinous things.
	As far as I'm concerned, if you have been so violent towards a two-year-old that you've caused a brain and retina hemorrhage to that two-year-old, you shouldn't ever see daylight again, as far as I'm concerned.
	He got eight days in jail for it.
	So he has spent his entire life, adult life and career, doing terrible, awful things, criminal behavior his entire life and being rewarded for it, getting off with it, being allowed to walk
	free.
	So, despite the fact that he's protesting against a racist system of oppression that is filled with injustices, his experience of the system has always been that it lets him get away with it.
	So why wouldn't he?
	No, sorry, Samson, there is more to this clip that I just want to play as well.
	So he's talking about lies.
	He's talking about how people are lying about him.
	He decides to bring Kyle Rittenhouse and his case into this.
	Do we expect that he's going to represent the Kyle Rittenhouse case fairly or honestly?
	No. No.
	Let's hear.
	I ask, because these racist bigots...
	Try to prevent us from standing up for our baby, our boy.
	He should be afforded the same rights that Cal Rittenhouse had.
	Daniel Pender and all of the people who have claimed whatever their defense was, he should be afforded the same right.
	Nobody in the public media has one video camera, but we got the video of Cal Rittenhouse.
	With an AK-47 shooting three people in the back.
	It wasn't.
	We got that.
	He raised more than two million dollars publicly.
	In the back.
	He's in the back.
	So since they tried to come for us, I call for the community's overwhelming support for this fund.
	That is a good question.
	I really do think with people like this, they really just think if you...
	Talk slowly and softly and wear a suit that somehow makes you smart.
	It's like the magic soil.
	They think that people who are smart that wear suits are only smart because they're wearing the suit.
	They'll get the same effect.
	Like it's a magic buff you get from armor in an RPG or something.
	But no, you still sound like a retard.
	Dominique. And again, so he's going on about how people are lying about him, people are lying about the circumstances of the case, while also telling us that Kyle Rittenhouse was running around with an AK-47.
	It wasn't an AK-47.
	It was a form of assault rifle, wasn't it?
	I think it was an AR.
	I think it was an AR-15, because loads of the leftists were complaining about it.
	Like, see?
	He's killed people with an AR-15.
	That's why we need to ban AR-15s.
	That was the argument that they were going for.
	Saved his life.
	So he doesn't know even one of the most...
	Basic controversies around Kyle Rittenhouse.
	Also saying we have the video footage of him shooting people in the back.
	Actually, it's video footage of him shooting people in the front as they're trying to take the gun off of him, assault him, beat him with a skateboard, and shoot him in the face with a pistol.
	So that's the kind of honesty that we can expect from these people.
	Also, again, he mentions the Rittenhouse crowdfunding situation.
	Well, Rittenhouse had multiple fundraisers taken down.
	By organisations like GoFundMe.
	So, that's again dishonesty.
	People were actively trying, or organisations, institutions were actively trying to prevent Kyle Rittenhouse from being able to fund his own defence.
	Whereas, these guys, already lived in a massive $900,000 house, have recently bought a new car, and it's in a gated community, they were able to raise over $400,000...
	For their defence expenses, which a lot of people at first thought, well, this must be the bail fund, right?
	This has to be the bail fund.
	No, it's to help them survive.
	It's to help them survive, because they're going to have to take some time off for all of this, because they need to rally around their poor little innocent boy who didn't do nothing.
	And when we talk about this fund, I already highlighted some of the comments that were left on it the other day, but Keith Woods actually...
	Got a few up as himself here which are quite telling so we have these ones like Amaka That's one of the least egregious.
	So they're lifting up the murderer.
	Interesting. Interesting behaviour.
	They hate to see us unified.
	No, it's just very interesting to see what you're unifying around.
	To think that we would sit quietly and let y'all enjoy a modern day lynching is wild.
	That's what it is when you arrest somebody for murdering someone.
	Is lynching.
	They're not in the real world, are they?
	They're not in the real world.
	The West Africa brothers say, We your brothers in Liberia.
	West Africa, pray for your freedom in that bondage land.
	Adding up each day from the motherland.
	Small, small, as we say.
	From $85 before brother, we finally reach $100.
	Thank your blessing.
	Interesting behaviour.
	I don't even know what, halfway through I forgot I didn't know what it meant.
	Yeah, Roe Marie Griffiths, let's run it up like they ran it up for their dear George Zimmerman.
	Again, that was clear, open and shut.
	Self-defence for George Zimmerman because he was being assaulted by Trayvon Martin when he opened fired on him.
	But they think this is the exact same situation.
	An anonymous giver, again, hang in there, family.
	Well, they don't see...
	Fascinating behaviour.
	They don't see the nuance of the situation.
	They don't see aggressors and defence.
	They just see our guy versus their guy.
	That's all that really matters to them.
	Not only do they protect him, they're celebrating him.
	They're praising him because they see this as an attack against white supremacy.
	It's very, very interesting.
	Sadly, it seems that this next link was taken down, this was the last thing I was going to end on, which was there was a website called justiceforcamaloanthony.org that some were attributing to the parents, but it was saying that it was just by Camalo Justice,
	and it was selling actual merchandise, a t-shirt for Free Carmelo.
	I also wouldn't be surprised if this isn't a similar thing to Black Lives Matter.
	You know how many of the people raising money for Black Lives Matter secretly just had a fund?
	You mean buy large mansions?
	Yes. Not only did the official organisation spend the money on themselves, but also many of the people raising money just didn't give it to the organisation and took it.
	There was that girl in Bristol, wasn't there, that spent like £20,000 just on Ubers, which I don't know where she's going.
	I don't know how you even do that.
	Very, very interesting.
	Presumably to McDonald's and back.
	I think the thing is with this whole thing, it stinks of the George Floyd, where I don't think, you know, they weren't bothered about the situation with George Floyd.
	It was, right, the next black man that gets killed by a cop, we're rioting.
	And this is the next, this is the same thing, right, the next case we've got where we can defend someone, we're all getting behind him.
	No matter what, you know, because when everything came out about George Floyd, even now, when everybody knows the type of man he was, these people will never say a bad word about St. George.
	You know?
	They will not.
	And this just seems exactly the same sort of thing.
	They'll ignore all common sense and all the questioning, why was he there in the first place?
	It's purely tribal thinking.
	Yeah. And where did he get the knife?
	Why, you know, is it Amazon?
	Do we have more, you know, is it Amazon's fault again?
	Don't tell Keir Starmer that.
	Yeah. Well, it's in America, so I'm sure that I've got no issue necessarily with somebody just carrying a weapon for their own self-defense in America.
	Again, I'm not one of those, have you got a license for that types?
	But the question is, why bring it to the track meet for the school?
	When you're a 17-year-old, especially when, as far as I'm aware, schools in America don't want their students bringing weapons into school.
	There are rules against that in these schools.
	And surely given that he provoked the situation, it seems to show some kind of intent to cause.
	Major harm to somebody.
	So there are a lot of questions, and I think that's going to be a big problem for the defense.
	But again, the actual arguments don't really matter if they manage to get an activist on the jury, as has happened a number of times before in these kinds of politically motivated trials.
	So that's just a little update, and so far it's completely shameless.
	The family have been able to get a nice 400 plus grand out of it, and I don't see any justice right now.
	Alright, what I do see is a lot of rumble rants.
	Is there a date for a trial on that one yet?
	Not as of yet, from what I've seen.
	Probably be dragged out.
	Is it normal that they get bail on suspicion of murder?
	Obviously, if the price is right, they suppose.
	Well, I mean, the judge, no comment on the background of the judge, decided to lower the bail from a million dollars to $250,000, and they only had to pay 10% of it in the first place.
	Here's an idea.
	If someone is potentially going to be convicted of murder, maybe it's best that they're not out in the wider world.
	Just an idea.
	Also, if somebody who is potentially going to be convicted of murder immediately chooses to surround himself with the kind of people who cause babies to have brain hemorrhages, that's an interesting choice of company.
	Anhedonism says, Yeah.
	Anhedonism again says, Very disrespectful.
	Yeah. Not that I would ever encourage such a thing.
	That's a random name.
	Grifter, all y'all white people just trying to keep a brother down.
	Now I'm saying, me.
	Hey, that's my bike.
	Grifter, shut up, why did I kill you?
	Peaceful rioting ensues.
	Yeah, that's pretty much...
	Painting quite the scene there.
	Pretty much how it goes in these situations.
	And hedonism again.
	White Americans aren't tearing down their own neighbourhoods over this amazing discipline.
	I know.
	Bobo bad.
	I can't believe Rittenhouse got away with shooting 35 black orphans with a grenade launcher and Daniel Penny got away with killing George Floyd while this scholar was simply being pro-choice.
	Yeah, I noticed that on Wednesday, that between the time of me looking at the fundraiser page to presenting it on the podcast, they'd changed the description because they're trying to make it clearer and clearer and clearer.
	This isn't for the bail fund, but they only really did that after they'd already had the bail lowered and paid, so...
	That's interesting.
	Not that it stops people from donating, because as we saw from the replies in the comments, it's not about justice for these people.
	Well, this could potentially lead, if there is actual proper justice, to the family also being arrested, which would be a wonderful turn of events.
	Yes, it certainly would.
	But what will happen following that if he is found guilty?
	Are we going to see more riots like we saw?
	In that summer of Black Lives Matter.
	Maybe. It's difficult to tell, isn't it?
	Because Black Lives Matter had sort of petered out a little bit because everyone exposed for basically it being a grift.
	Yeah, massive.
	Not that it won't stop them coming back up again if this ends up in a guilty charge and people will need to riot.
	Well, most of the rioting was just people going out because they wanted new trainers and to steal stuff.
	It was an excuse for most of them.
	I've seen loads of footage from it.
	They need the right trainers to go with their suits, right?
	That's right, yeah.
	I've seen loads of footage from those 2020 Floyd riots and almost all of them are just there to loot.
	It's just stealing.
	It's just stealing.
	I think there's equality like free TVs.
	That's true.
	A. Miller says, Rittenhouse didn't use an assault rifle, not a valid rifle classification.
	AR stands for Armour Light.
	It's the company name.
	Thank you for clearing that up.
	OPH UK, Kyle randomly and violently shot at peaceful protesters who didn't do nothing and hit three pedos.
	If his look is really that good, we should just hand him an AR at every...
	No, no, no.
	Skittenhund says, Austin Metcalf's memorial fund is up to $415,000 now.
	P.S. I love hearing you guys try to pronounce southern accents.
	Y'all.
	With a laugh.
	That's good that there's money going to the actual victim's family, but it doesn't bring their son back, sadly.
	Absolutely. Now you've got your segment.
	I did say it at the start, I'll say it again, but we was going to change it up and give our attractive Voice of Wales person the segment, but stands in Spain, so Steph, you've been doing a lot of work on...
	Yeah. Are you going to be...
	Samson's got a good job with that, I think.
	He's on it.
	So, I've covered this with our voice whales, done a few segments, so I'll start with welcoming you to the age of only shame, which is what I like to call it, where the more dignity you lose,
	the more views you gain.
	So, surgical scars are just part of the clout package.
	The content, viral and vile.
	And somehow still called empowering.
	This isn't just a trend.
	It's a train wreck.
	So they say Gen Z is breaking taboos.
	But what if the taboo is common sense?
	Today's viral stars are cooing for fame by the body count.
	Only shame creators like Lily Phillips and Bonnie Blue.
	They continue to push the limits of what's acceptable online in a disturbing race for clicks, clout and controversy.
	So their promos like...
	Lily's sleeping with a hundred men in 24 hours.
	Our bonnie blues spring break trips targeting barely legal boys and girls.
	They aren't just shocking.
	They're becoming normalized and young people are fooling it, praising it and seeing it as an easy way to get attention.
	But my question around it all is how far does it go?
	So if we look at the first link.
	We're calling for it to be banned.
	This is just really gross.
	What's happened?
	This is just the Mirror's website being annoying.
	If you refresh the page, you should be fine.
	To be fair, I'm glad to have a reprieve from...
	Oh no, there we go.
	There it is.
	So yeah, this was just...
	There's a thing gone.
	You know, the usual uproar.
	I'd say after 101 men in a day, she did a documentary and by the end of it she broke down in tears and everyone was kind of like, oh yeah, I think that's...
	And no one was surprised.
	Yeah, no one was surprised that it ended there.
	But she wasn't in tears because she was, you know, she regretted it.
	No, she was upset because she felt like she didn't please everybody enough.
	That they didn't have a good time and they didn't enjoy it.
	And... I just think the whole thing was garbage, to be honest.
	And in my eyes, between her and these other women that are doing the same, they just seem locked into a race to the bottom, competing like it's the Sex Olympics and fooling bimbofication nation.
	One extreme challenge after another.
	So it's the second link.
	I've seen some people speculate that this story has been boosted so much by the media and there's been so much attention on it, almost as a way of trying to...
	I don't know, denigrate British girls.
	Yeah. To suggest that they're all like this.
	They're all whores.
	And if you're coming from a culture that sees British girls as whores, well, this is just proving you right.
	Well, it's similar to how those people trafficking Instagram accounts that I think have started getting shut down now would show footage of British women on nights out as if it was like, you know, showing...
	The predators, their prey.
	It's really kind of sick in that aspect of it.
	And also these media outlets, quite often they'll talk about it in very neutral language.
	I think it's okay to talk about these things if you're condemning them and saying no one should be involved in this.
	This is a terrible idea.
	It's ruining people's lives.
	I think that's fine because you can't just allow this to carry on without criticising it.
	But I think a lot of places, like the Mail and lots of other...
	Outlets are just sharing these stories and it acts as free publicity.
	And I think people are cottoning on to gaming this system.
	It doesn't help as well that when you scroll through these kinds of pictures, these articles, they always use pictures of them.
	Oh, here's basically pictures of them all in lingerie.
	So we'll talk about it very neutrally or in a mildly condemning tone.
	But then also, here's pictures of them looking super sexy.
	The Daily Mail's terrible for it.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, just the Daily Mail sidebar.
	After that 101 man challenge, whatever you want to call it, gangbang.
	Yeah, we're off the screen.
	Her latest one now is the backdoor challenge.
	And I just think of it, it's not even about sex work, it's the aggressive normalisation of extreme degrading behaviour packages, content.
	She hypes it up like it's this big, amazing achievement.
	And it's...
	It's disgusting.
	Well, she's basically just being used.
	And also, it's worth pointing out as well, I saw not too long ago a picture of the kinds of people that turn up to these events where there are masses of men.
	And it's an interesting collection of people.
	A lot of...
	How do I put it?
	New British.
	Yeah. Her DEI score is fantastic.
	Again, it plays into these stereotypes that are being broadcast to the rest of the world.
	They're only a British girl's whores, but they're whores for you, stranger who wants to come to this country.
	People that you want to check their hard drives because they all just look like wrong ones, to be honest.
	Personally, this may not be very classical liberal of me, but I think John Locke would approve when I say that everybody involved in these stunts deserves prison time.
	I think that's generous.
	Well, I know what John Locke would actually say about it, but I can't say it on here.
	And this is off the back of the thing about adolescence.
	Everyone's talking about adolescence at the moment.
	The support for boys is needed because of toxic masculinity.
	Yeah, what about the toxic women that are literally pushing out the same kind of content?
	Kids aren't being warned about this, aren't they?
	They're being pushed at.
	And 13-year-old boys need to know that they're massive incels, which you're kind of supposed to be.
	Ah, yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, that's obviously normal at that age, isn't it?
	So she's promoted this...
	Backdoor challenge, but just before this one, because you sent it to me, didn't you?
	If we go on to the next link, link three.
	She decided to do a tour of nursing homes as she was going through America and decided to give them all a very good time.
	She could kill someone doing this.
	Yeah, considering you were dreading the videos or whatever I'd be showing, you definitely didn't want to be seeing that.
	To be fair, nursing homes are already kind of...
	They spread a lot of diseases in there already, so she's just a...
	Not that different for them, really.
	At which point is she just a health hazard?
	She's like a walking pandemic, isn't she?
	Exactly. You go near her and there's a toxic air, you get a toxic status ailment.
	I've said this off-air before, but I have described them as the Norwegian seed bank of sexually transmitted diseases.
	They've just got every single one stored up in case they get eradicated.
	The thing is, seeing something like that, my instant reaction is that can't be true.
	So I've had to dive deep.
	And it is true.
	That's some Nick Buckley level dedication.
	It's right there.
	You've committed yourself to this.
	I have, yeah.
	I've got to give you the credit you deserve.
	I wouldn't.
	I'm too scared to go on her X account because all of a sudden your algorithm starts to push stuff up on your news feed and I don't want that.
	So you've sacrificed your form.
	I have, yeah.
	X. Sorry.
	So then, the nursing home stunt may have given her the idea for her next stunt of the backdoor challenge.
	If you can link four.
	So she did a 50 men in her backdoor challenge with another creator, Wisconsin Tiff.
	Why do I have to know all of these people's names now?
	Why do I have to learn this information?
	I can't imagine the ending of it being good anyway.
	But if we look at video one, and you can just sort of see...
	Video one?
	What? Yeah, we're going to see it live.
	No, no, it's not.
	I get the impression these are PG.
	Come with me today to have reconstructive surgery on my back door.
	You see, I thought it would be a fun idea to let 50 guys in my back door.
	Along with my friend Lily Phillips because, you know, we like to do things that are crazy.
	And with this line of work that I'm in, it needs to look perfect.
	And, you know, here I am at the surgery place taking a urine test to make sure I'm not pregnant, which I am not because, you know, I only do the back door.
	I really do think that this might become a trend and I'm just putting this out there.
	Unless you're wanting to pay thousands of dollars, don't try this at home.
	Would I do this again?
	Probably. But that's because I'm a professional.
	This was one of the most painful recoveries I've ever been through.
	So you can see the pain.
	It was so bad because I had stitches in there.
	It was so hard to push and every moment hurt.
	But yeah, hopefully I can share this experience and bring awareness to this.
	Raise awareness for what?
	Yeah. This is not a good idea that it's degrading and that...
	Technology has enabled, you know, prostitution on a scale unheard of in history.
	Right. I just, I feel like, how can you not have any shame?
	Like, she literally said she's going to have reconstructive surgery because it needs to look nice because she only does it in her back door.
	So she's ultimately gaining...
	Attention for, feel sorry for me, I'm going to have surgery, but it's so that I can stay in my line of work of what I do being an absolute tramp, basically.
	Yeah, it's not something she's going to learn from.
	Yeah. There's well-earned consequences, in my opinion.
	And then it's like, she has to put that little warning in, as in like, oh, I wouldn't recommend this, I wouldn't try it.
	Clearly not.
	I don't think too many people are jumping to replicate that, to be honest.
	So yeah, if we play video two, which is, I have edited it to...
	Give you a little snippet of what this challenge kind of looked like, as mild as I could.
	Oh my god, look how big this bed is.
	We're gonna be on here.
	Tiff, you look stunning.
	Thank you, study you.
	People are actually here with you.
	It's so nice to meet you.
	I feel like we're like soul sisters.
	You're so crazy.
	I've never met anybody who's crazy as me.
	Yeah, there aren't many girls that agree to this.
	But we're excited.
	Woah, this bed is huge.
	I bet as well we're not- we're probably gonna fill the room.
	It's interesting how it's presented as not shameful, yet all of the men pretty much cover their faces.
	At least the men vote on number 50. He's the last man in.
	Sorry, I'm sorry, you're proud I'm at the back of the queue.
	Oh yeah.
	At least some of those men had the wherewithal to be ashamed of themselves.
	My faith in humanity is at rock bottom.
	This is bad for my soul.
	Learning about this.
	I'm becoming a darker person.
	I didn't look at the notes or anything.
	So I just, you know...
	Went in blind.
	Yeah, went in blind.
	And it traumatised me, you know.
	And so this is your topic now, isn't it?
	So anytime something like this happens...
	This is just gross.
	Also, it's worth mentioning that these people must have a fair amount of money and therefore a large enough audience to host these sorts of things.
	So there are men out there...
	They don't pay to go and do it, though.
	It's free because she makes money from the content.
	But the people that she's producing it for are paying.
	And I think that it's about time we also shame them.
	Don't watch this nonsense.
	Just be normal.
	Have a normal relationship and be healthy.
	There's a reason that people do that.
	It's psychologically best for you.
	Watching this kind of thing just ruins your brain and makes people basically maladapted to normal life.
	Yeah. Well, I know you noticed Guy 50. So he did do a little interview with her.
	So if we can watch it and then...
	Oh no.
	Why are you so happy about this, you freaks?
	It's quite a DEI audience.
	Are you ready?
	Oh yes.
	How many times do you reckon you've winked to us?
	I mean, I haven't really done it much.
	I'm still a virgin.
	Sorry, how old is this kid?
	But I'm over that crap now.
	My entire job, they all know this.
	My family knows this shit, so.
	Hell yeah.
	Making the mum and dad proud.
	No. Oh, fuck yeah.
	I love it.
	Making your mum and dad proud.
	And...
	So this guy was an incel.
	So this guy was an actual incel and she's like, oh yeah, baby, first time, number 50. So the moral of the story is actually incels are good.
	Well, did she save him from doing something silly?
	You know, what could have happened the next day if this didn't matter?
	I said to you yesterday.
	I don't know if I could...
	If I was that...
	No, I'm going to stop before I say something.
	I said to you yesterday, when she did her 100 men challenge, it was quite secretive.
	I don't know whether that was because they were doing a documentary, but there wasn't much filming going on outside.
	You didn't really see who was doing it.
	It was just their feet you could see.
	And this now more seems like a mainstream program, isn't it?
	It's progressed.
	It's progressed now.
	And all these videos are just easily available to watch on a TikTok.
	We say all the time, 13-year-olds...
	I find that really concerning, to be honest.
	Well, yeah, I think that parents need to have far more supervision over their children's...
	Internet usage in their phones.
	They should be checking what they're looking at and paying attention to it.
	Not only just because it's good to prevent them from looking at inappropriate things, but you should also take an interest in your children's lives and what they're interested in as well.
	So it's sort of a two-pronged thing.
	And I think that this should be common practice.
	And people say, oh, the government should do something.
	You know, whenever something happens to someone's kids, it's the government's responsibility.
	And it's like, I'm sorry, but...
	I think usually it's the parent's responsibility to look after their children.
	You can't just defer that to the government.
	Or an iPad.
	And it doesn't take much.
	You watch one or two of them videos and then they applaud you continuously.
	That's meant to be a pun.
	So yeah, this kind of content, it doesn't just degrade women.
	It paints a toxic, unrealistic picture for young men too.
	It warps ideas of sex, relationships and respect while glorifying recklessness, stripping away boundaries and turning what should be personal and meaningful into a public spectacle for profit.
	So like we said, the Netflix series Adolescence was being shown to boys in school.
	You know, they want to show it to boys in school or whatever.
	What about, you know, toxic femininity and exploitive online behaviour?
	Like, what's there for girls to be warned of this kind of lifestyle?
	Also, this kind of behaviour encourages people like, if they're so worried about Andrew Tate, this is the kind of thing that an Andrew Tate would be pulling the strings of, given what he was doing with his cam industry business and everything.
	But apparently when it's a man exploiting women, obviously terrible in the first place, that's terrible.
	We need to condemn that from top to bottom.
	When it's women exploiting themselves, it's empowering, it's beautiful, it's women taking back power.
	It's a complete double-step.
	And I'd probably argue that she is...
	So much more dangerous than Andrew Tate.
	And it's not even her, it's the fact that she's been allowed to do it.
	This shouldn't be allowed, this should be illegal, as far as I'm concerned.
	I do think there's a...
	Maybe this is a bit too conspiratorial.
	I think that those in power like the ease of access that young boys have to pornography.
	Because there's been a number of studies showing that it does things like overexposure to that kind of material, lowers testosterone, it reduces the amount of grey matter and white matter, I think, in the brain.
	So it basically neutralizes young men who might otherwise be doing something useful or productive with their time instead of gooning 24-7.
	So one thing I think is important here is that I feel like...
	To allow this to happen, there's a failure of education in the consequences of this sort of thing.
	Not only that sexually transmitted diseases can ruin people's lives and sometimes even kill them, and also the fact that you can ruin your pair bonding.
	So you can find someone who you think will be the love of your life, and it feels hollow because you've ruined the part of your brain responsible for that by overexposure to things.
	So you will forever be dissatisfied in life by doing these sort of things.
	Tell young people that.
	Just the realities of it.
	You don't have to gloss it up.
	You don't have to scare them.
	Just say, this is the evidence and it suggests you shouldn't do this because it's terrible.
	The fact that these sorts of people exist and they're paraded around, this is from the BBC, right?
	Yeah, I was just doing one time.
	The Daily Mail and the Mirror are talking about all these things.
	I don't think they're going to introduce that sort of thing where it's actual evidence-based.
	You can basically inform people that this is a terrible idea.
	You shouldn't be doing this.
	It's not happening.
	So yeah, as you can see, she was on the Newsnight BBC.
	So if we play this video, it's only short and don't worry.
	I probably watched pornography first when I was maybe 11. And so I've always known about it.
	I've always knew it was a thing.
	And I always thought it was very normal to watch.
	And I personally don't think pornography is a bad thing in moderation.
	I just think it's when younger adults have a lot of access to it, that's when it does become a problem.
	But as we know, what we see in pornography online can be extreme.
	It's not normal.
	It depends what type of pornography you're watching.
	That's what I would say.
	And when you look back and reflect on the fact that you had access to this pornography, and we're looking at it from the age of 11, and not just you, any Gen Z, Who's got a smartphone.
	Yeah. Does that suggest to you that maybe your generation has been let down by politicians or the tech companies or even parents?
	I think it's hard because sex is a part of life.
	But not when you're 11. Well, I think you should be learning from that age.
	I do believe that.
	Because that's when you start to think about things like that.
	But learning...
	Edo, isn't it?
	Maybe not learning from pornography, but I do think understanding it more from that age would be helpful.
	Billie Eilish is the same age as you.
	She says she started watching pornography at 11. You've just told us the same age.
	She says it destroyed her brain.
	Could it have destroyed yours?
	I think it really depends on how frequent you're watching it.
	I see people nowadays who watch too much too soon and they become very desensitised to it and that means then they have to watch more and more extreme stuff.
	I personally wasn't like that.
	I didn't watch it often enough at all.
	So I don't think it's destroyed me personally, but I do believe it's destroyed people my age 100%.
	It didn't destroy me.
	I just ended up an online porn star sleeping with old men in nursing homes.
	If you watch too much, you might go extreme.
	I never did that.
	Hello? Clearly what that is, is a very, very damaged person.
	The fact that she didn't say anything to the idea that people shouldn't be having sex at 11, she just kind of brushed over that, suggests to me that there might be something dodgy that's gone on at that age for her.
	Clearly a very, very damaged person who is trying to rationalise to herself.
	She came from a normal, from what we know, isn't it?
	It's just a normal upbringing.
	Issues, you know, no daddy issues.
	Daddy's there.
	They're actually very supportive.
	You know, the mother goes in and cleans up.
	That's not normal, though, is it?
	That's not normal.
	If you find out that, oh, my daughter's a whore.
	My daughter's a whore that does a 100-man backdoor challenge.
	No, you don't be supportive of that.
	I don't care how she's paying you off.
	You disown her.
	Yeah, the father's friends in work watch her videos.
	You know, you go to work and your mates are watching your daughter get him.
	You disown her.
	I feel like I need a shower.
	She repents, takes it all back, and comes to you after the fact, wanting you to be able to support her in recovery or whatever.
	That's when you take her back.
	But as long as she is doing that, you completely disown her.
	You cut all contact.
	No redemption.
	Is it this one that's married?
	Is it her that's married?
	One of them's married, and they did a video.
	They're laying in bed together, and it's like, oh, you know, her heart is all mine.
	And then she's like, yeah, but mine is for everybody else.
	And he's like, ha ha ha.
	That's a Steel Panther song.
	Ironically, a Steel Panther song.
	And that was a joke.
	It was mocking.
	It's called Community Prophecy.
	You can read between the lines out of that title.
	I looked at that as in she's basically explaining her business plan.
	She's saying, yeah, kids are watching porn from Eleven, and then they'll go on chasing something more extreme, so I'll make extreme content.
	More than people to be.
	Paying for my videos, basically.
	That's ultimately how she's explaining it.
	Sex is supposed to be fun.
	It doesn't look fun.
	It looks very corporate.
	The proliferation and the over-access to sexual content, but not sex itself, I think is ruining young people.
	At this rate, I've been so exposed to this sort of thing that I'm...
	Being one round to the argument that unless you're making a baby, just don't do it.
	You're basically an ascetic at this point, aren't you?
	I am.
	I'm sort of going the monk route.
	I respect it.
	I understand why.
	Sounds exciting.
	Not to say anything about you and your relationship.
	So obviously I mentioned Bonnie Blue, who is a rival by the looks of it.
	And she's done a spring break.
	This seems like a very pro-wrestling rivalry.
	I think they're friends, aren't they?
	I think this one's worse, to be honest.
	You know, it's absolutely dripping in disgrace her going around here targeting barely legal boys for her content.
	You know, she's calling out for...
	When I did a piece with her, it was shocking that she targets students.
	Like, I want to sleep with boys I've just turned 18. And now she's doing the same, asking for girls to come and join in.
	On her challenge.
	Virgins. Yeah.
	18-year-old virgin girls.
	It's just gross.
	It's just gross.
	If you're going to have your first time, if you're 18 and still a virgin, don't go with, like Josh says, the walking STD cooler.
	She advertised it like a competition.
	Like, I want an 18-year-old that turns 18 in the stroke of midnight to find me on spring break so I can be the first one to...
	It's just...
	Why? Even Satan isn't that ambitious.
	I mean, how evil can you be?
	When you said that about targeting young virgin girls, I said she's the devil.
	She is quite literally the devil.
	We're starting to...
	Brush up against time here.
	We've not got that much time left.
	So do we have to watch this video or have we got the gist of it?
	I feel like we've got the gist of it.
	I feel like we've got the gist of it.
	Posing with people for photos.
	I found it a bit mad that there was young women being like, oh my god, it's Bonnie Blue.
	Oh, you're my idol.
	This is why these people should be arrested because they encourage this and they propagate this behaviour.
	They should all be in prison, including the people who take part in the videos.
	Just arrest all of them.
	I'll arrange a honey trap.
	Bonnie Blue 50-man challenge!
	And then I just arrest all of them.
	Everyone. Harry's dark arc is coming to fruition now.
	Do you disagree, Josh?
	I wouldn't protest.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly. They also both fake pregnancies.
	One was for content for a video, and then Bonnie's one, she tried to justify it by saying the extra money that she's earned from the media of it going viral, she wants to use to fund for IVF for a couple who can't have a baby.
	So she wants to do good with her money.
	She's turning to philanthropy.
	Like she's seeking forgiveness.
	Yeah. And then...
	Oh wait, police opened...
	Oh, human trafficking.
	Oh, bloody hell.
	Oh yeah, so this is...
	Yeah, so this is obviously, you know, this is the real consequences of this lifestyle.
	This woman was invited to a, you know, party in Dubai.
	We all know how they go down.
	She was missing and then found on the side of the road with a broken spine, battered ribs, and then left suffering for her life in hospital.
	Wasn't she missing for, like, weeks as well?
	Yeah, a long time, yeah.
	But they sold that lifestyle, didn't they?
	Like you were saying...
	Girls chase the dream, don't they?
	And then they see, oh, I want to go up to Dubai, you know?
	Let me check that yesterday, didn't we?
	The average OnlyFans model, like, the average earns about $100 a month.
	There's no price to put on your dignity, though, is there?
	No, there's not.
	No, no, no, no.
	But what, you know, they're seeing, like, oh, look at her.
	She's driving, you know, £50,000 cars.
	She's going on, you know, hundreds of thousand pounds trips.
	She's on this yacht, this, that, whatever.
	I want a bit of that.
	And then you sell your soul.
	And that's the danger of it, because kids are going to do it.
	Yeah, and there was that one I covered with you, the virgin one, remember?
	Sophie Raine, she's an 18-year-old virgin, Christian, and she tries to justify it by saying, I only do things with myself on camera, you know, waiting for the right one to find a husband, and all this, and you were shocked by that one.
	I don't think the right one's going to come along.
	No, exactly.
	I don't know if God is watching, at least.
	But she's like 18. That's like one of those tricks that certain people try and pull on their holy days.
	They're like, well, it doesn't count because we've got this thing that makes it okay.
	If you really believe in God, he knows you're trying to trick him.
	He's kind of omnipotent.
	That's the whole point of God.
	All-powerful, all-knowing.
	I mean, Jesus Christ.
	Yeah, so that's only shame.
	Is that intentional?
	Sorry. Let's say it was.
	That's my little snippet of only shame, where self-worth is sold for screen time and so-called viral fame.
	It's built on degrading challenges.
	It isn't just content.
	It's a cultural warning sign.
	And I like to, you know, after that, not very nice.
	I'd like to, you know, end on a little bit of humour.
	So if we play the last video, this is...
	Well, I'll let her speak for a second.
	Look at this Kea.
	She's on heat.
	Jumped in with 30 bulls.
	Loved it for the first minute.
	And now she's like, oh god, no, they're all chasing me.
	Come on, come through this gate.
	Come on.
	Get out of it!
	Get out of it!
	Okay, so I got her out by herself.
	I want you to picture a cow running through a gate, 30 bulls chasing after her, and those bulls have never been with a cow before, and they are not ready to let her go.
	They've enjoyed their 30 minutes.
	They want another 30 more.
	She just walked back to the other girls.
	Oh, hi, girls.
	I'm back.
	Yeah, I slept with all of them.
	Got her tail up.
	I would too.
	I'm going to call you Bonnie Blue.
	Who are you?
	T4. T4 the whore.
	Look at you.
	You're covered in slobber.
	Look at you.
	That's the joys of farming, eh?
	At least it's a cow.
	Well, we won't do that again.
	I've got the thousand yard stare.
	Even that cow feels more shame than these girls you've been talking about.
	He's named her Body Blue.
	That's right.
	He said, I'm going to call you Body Blue.
	At least he had the chipper Aussie attitude about the whole thing.
	Right, I think that's enough of all that.
	What video comments have we got?
	Please tell me we've got cute video comments of animals and things.
	Do we also have any rumble rants for that segment?
	We do, yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Alright. Right.
	Give me the mouse.
	Give me the mouse.
	Where is it?
	It's there.
	Oh, there it is.
	Yeah, cheers.
	Right, so...
	A. Miller, race to the bottom, sounds like her next.
	That's a random name.
	Look on the bright side.
	It's never been easier to distinguish the degenerates from the normal people in soy-ciety, and yes, the boomers are the worst degens.
	I think, I don't know, they were pretty degenerate in their time, but I think they've got to run for their money there.
	That is one of the silver linings, is that people, because society's so accepting, people advertise their depravity far more now.
	You can just tell.
	Dragon Lady Chris, to quote my fellow Rumblet Skittenhund, where is she going to go next?
	An effing orphanage?
	Lady Wanderer says, at the very worst, if her career bottoms out, she'll make a fine weather vane atop a barn and she'll talk too.
	Hewitt76, Harry's checked out like Sam Lowry at the end of Brazil.
	I did go to my happy place for part of that.
	The Habsification, actually it was more like fire and brimstone crusades, but Lily Phillips is effectively pushing the boundaries of what she can get away with.
	Inevitably, she'll push the extreme just for clicks and I suspect barely legal turning to underage.
	I mean, it might have already happened.
	Who knows who's showing up at these meets anyway?
	Especially if they're in balaclavas.
	Bald Eagle, 1787.
	Josh, it's hollow because of how many trains have been through the tunnel.
	Very clever.
	And that's a random name again.
	Porn didn't destroy her brain, it destroyed her back door through which what passes as her brain leaked out of.
	Well, that was very vulgar.
	Thank you very much for that one.
	What vivid imagery you painted for us.
	Let's watch the video comments.
	Please be something nice and innocent.
	I'm glad I'm drinking in Lanzo now.
	Technology is a wonderful thing.
	So I built a device to send a clear message to any aliens from yesterday's segment who may be watching It's a power
	fist Yes!
	I like that.
	Very nice.
	"Coming soon in iMechworks YouTube channel." Build your own mech hand.
	Oh, there's going to be an instruction tutorial, so you can check that out soon.
	I might have to watch that myself.
	Fine. Interesting about the COVID era is the fact that Azerbaijan broke quarantine as a country to go and invade its neighbor of Armenia.
	And yet, you look at the death toll of both countries combined, and it's less than 20,000 people.
	That's like a lower rate than Albania and Croatia and whatnot.
	This is even better than American rate of death tolls, which kind of calls into question how calculations were even being made by the experts back then.
	I think we got an idea of how the calculations were being made, which was that if they died, it was probably of COVID, so mark it down that way to pump the numbers.
	That was basically it.
	As Waterworld was one of my favourite movies as a kid, I thought I'd share the love, Harry.
	Here's a ten-second clip.
	Tell me if you're sold.
	For it!
	For it!
	Yeah, I'm sold.
	I'm sold.
	I quite enjoyed it, actually.
	I haven't seen Waterworld, have you?
	No, I've not seen it.
	I'm aware that it was a massive flop point that came out and kind of damaged Kevin Costner's career for a little while.
	It's a quintessential example of a Hollywood flop, isn't it?
	Yeah, but...
	But also, when you go back to the 90s, the films that were considered bad and flops back then have nothing in comparison to how bad our bad films are these days.
	They're basically classics now.
	We have no films now.
	So I don't watch iDubes, but I just watched this recent segment, and personally, I think anybody that chooses an OnlyFans model, or a sex worker, or a porn star, what do you expect is going to happen to you?
	Men choose these people, thinking that they're sexually libertine, and that they're going to be attractive, and that other men desire them, or covet them, so it's going to up their status somehow, and then are aghast when they've been cup-holded, and they show sympathy towards the guy.
	I just don't understand it.
	Well, one correction I'm going to have to say there, which is that iDubbbz did not get with her when she was an OnlyFans girl.
	She decided midway through the relationship to do that, and he went along with it happily.
	Which, if anything, is almost worse.
	Yeah, I would say so, because it's just like, you know what, I'm bored of this fidelity.
	Let's make some money.
	Time to be a massive whore, and iDubbbz, Ian Joma...
	He took his wife's surname at the marriage.
	Decided that that was a-okay with him and that he would publicly humiliate himself by defending her decisions with such amazing cope arguments as"Yeah, well, people pay to see her tits.
	I get to actually touch them." Okay.
	And then he got into the big thing with Sam Hyde and Sam Hyde posted a clip on his YouTube channel of him and the rest of his office in-stream looking up her nudes.
	And you know you've won in life when your greatest enemy can just look at your wife's nudes on stream for free!
	Because they got leaked.
	Oh, what a winner.
	What an absolute winner Idubs is.
	But that's all we've got time for before Lad's Hour.
	So on that cheery note, I hope you've all enjoyed yourselves.
	Thank you for joining us, Voice of Wales.
	You'll be joining us for Lad's Hour as well, won't we?
	So you're an honorary lad.
	For the afternoon.
	Are you able to identify as that now?
	I don't know.
	I'd need to ask the Supreme Court.
	I'd need to ask the Supreme Court.
	But thanks very much for watching.
	I hope, like me, that you find some way of recovery after this.
	So take care.
	We'll see you very soon.
	Enjoy your weekend.

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