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April 16, 2025 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1144

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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Loot Seaters for Wednesday, the 16th of April, 2025.
	I'm Jonathan Harry and Lewis Prattpool.
	Hello. Hello.
	Join us again to tell us about the Austin Metcalfe Carmelo Anthony case, which I know something about.
	I've been trying to avoid because it's just thoroughly depressing.
	Thanks, Harry.
	No, I'm joking.
	Tony Blair's push for digital ID because the Dark Lord is never far away.
	And I wanted to talk about the sort of ineffable vibe shift that everyone thinks they've got their finger on.
	Because it seems that vibes are shifting all over the place, frankly.
	And it's a bit, well, not confusing, but frustrating.
	Anyway, if you're a gold tier subscriber, remember, you can send us a video comment, question, or just a nice picture of your cat.
	Video of your cat or something.
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	Or dogs.
	Because we realise that we've been a bit heavy with the segments recently and we've kind of not left enough space for them.
	So we're going to try and make sure that we do leave enough space for them in the future.
	So our apologies there.
	And without further ado, let's get into it.
	Yes, so we covered a little bit of this story last week when Rorek Nationalist was on the podcast and he was discussing some of the government agency operations that were going on behind the scenes that led to, that we assume, led to this man, the father of the victim,
	Austin Metcalf, who was recently murdered at the beginning of the month, going out and giving a public statement speaking about how this has nothing to do with race, he doesn't want people online hijacking this story to make it about race.
	And also stating that he'd already forgiven the man who killed his son or the boy who killed his son.
	Now, I watched the full interview, barring the small clips that had been posted around online, and I do think that...
	I and other people have been a little bit unfair to this man.
	He does seem like he's trying to be genuinely Christian in his response to this.
	He says explicitly at the beginning that he's in shock with this whole ordeal and he's trying to hold himself up as the rock for the rest of his family in what is obviously an absolutely awful time.
	His son died and his son was murdered and then died in the arms of his twin brother.
	So, absolutely...
	Horrible story.
	I can't imagine how I would react in a situation like this if I was the father.
	So his reaction is somewhat understandable, being in complete shock, trying to hold the family down.
	The statement to do with don't make it about race, I've forgiven him, I would assume has something to do with the government.
	...agency that we spoke about last Friday.
	So if you want more information on that, watch Rorog Nationalist's segment that he did for us last week.
	But I wanted to go over this again so that we could get the actual details of the case down for clarity's sake, because this is a very controversial case.
	It will carry on.
	It is quite revealing in the reactions that have been going on.
	And there are some centrists and some on the centre-right who have tried to make a case for this being self-defence on the part of Carmelo Anthony, who...
	Who's the alleged murderer in this situation?
	I do not think so.
	I think it's pretty open and shut.
	There is simultaneously a lot to talk about with this case, and not much, because when you follow the chain of cause and effect and the events, it's incredibly simple what has happened.
	If we hear it straight from the horse's mouth, we have here Hunter Metcalf, the brother of Austin, his twin brother, describing what actually happened.
	At the day when his brother was murdered, let's hear what he had to say about this.
	What happened if you don't mind what happened?
	There was this kid, before I knew his name now, this kid was sitting under our tent at track.
	We asked him to move.
	He started getting aggressive and talking, reckless.
	And my brother stepped in and said he needed to move.
	He's like,"Make me move." Austin grabbed his backpack.
	This kid.
	I tried to whip around as fast as I could, but I didn't see the stab.
	But then I looked at my brother and I'm not going to talk about the rest.
	That's just what I saw.
	Yeah, pretty horrible chain of events right there.
	Completely pointless, happened in a split second.
	He was murdered.
	Yeah, he was murdered.
	And what he is saying here also seems to corroborate with a lot of the reports which have been taken from the arrest warrant affidavit and the witness reports from the scene.
	So according to that, according to the arrest warrant, Anthony, a centennial student, was waiting out on a weather delay under a tent designated for Frisco Memorial Hyde.
	Now, initially there was a narrative going around trying to say that they had a history with one another and that Metcalf was some kind of bully and this was retaliation for bullying or he was just pushed too far.
	They'd never met one another.
	That has been confirmed.
	They were going to two completely different schools.
	One was going to Frisco Centennial.
	Metcalf was going to Frisco Memorial.
	Two different high schools never met one another.
	So there was...
	No prior history between these two kids.
	Complete strangers.
	And this ended up happening anyway.
	Anthony allegedly reached inside his bag and said, Touch me and see what happens.
	Metcalf then touched him, to which Anthony replied, Punch me and see what happens.
	According to the report, Metcalf grabbed Anthony and again told him to move when Anthony pulled out a knife, stabbed Metcalf once in the chest, So,
	this is confirmed by the...
	Affidavit, as they say.
	You can see the full arrest report, which has been posted by Sarah Fields on Twitter.
	I've read through the whole thing.
	It corroborates with everything that Hunter Metcalfe said and everything that's being reported by outlets like the ones that I was quoting right there.
	So a horrible situation, and as far as I'm concerned, what it sounds like is that this teenager, Carmelo Anthony...
	For some reason had a knife on him at a school sporting event, an inter-school sporting event, and decided to try to provoke a situation in which he could stab somebody and try and get away with it as self-defense.
	Now that is...
	My opinion, it's based on the reports that I've read, and it's based on the arrest warrant and the witness reports held in it, but that's what I believe has gone on here.
	He brought a knife to a school event, provoked a situation, stabbed somebody, and thought he could get away with it by saying that this was self-defense.
	The events have progressed since then.
	So here's a report from the time.
	These kinds of tents right here are the ones that they're talking about.
	These are the ones that...
	I don't know if we have similar things in the UK, but in the US they have these tents at the sporting events.
	I don't remember seeing one, to be honest.
	Here we go.
	Anthony, who told Frisco police he stabbed 17-year-old Austin Metcalf at a track meet in self-defense after an altercation, sat in a jail jumpsuit and shackles, while prosecutors challenged how the father could not afford the 10% needed for a million-dollar bond with an online donation fund that's up to $400,000
	and growing.
	With access to over $400,000, why haven't you bonded him out yet, asked the prosecutor.
	We don't have access to that money, replied the father.
	It's hard for everybody to...
	To be level-headed at a time like this.
	So that's where we come in.
	It's our job to be level-headed, to be fact-based, and to follow the truth wherever it leads.
	And prosecutors revealed today that Carmelo Anthony was involved in an assault-type altercation at his school on February 4th that was handled internally by the school district.
	Other than that, he has an unblemished record, which is probably one of the reasons why the judge agreed to lower his bomb.
	Well, that sounds like a reasonable judgment from the judge, doesn't it?
	Well, other than this one case where he was violent towards a...
	Another student in his school two months ago.
	He's got an unblemished record, so we'll reduce...
	So other than the blemishes.
	Yeah, so other than the blemishes and the fact that he's just killed someone, he's basically a straight-A perfect student, so we'll lower his bond from $1 million, which you only have to pay 10% of, which is $100,000, and they already had more than enough to pay for it,
	to $250,000.
	Which means 25 grand instead.
	So much cheaper for the Bond right there.
	So he was being held in jail.
	He's now out.
	Why would the father not have access to the money raised for the hymn?
	Good question.
	We don't know.
	Okay, I suppose that's a good question.
	Good question.
	There's no answer.
	It's just a good question.
	Here's the judge that reduced the bond.
	He was a good boy, didn't do nothing.
	I will say no more on that.
	Here's some of the statements made by Carmelo Anthony's lawyer, and this is the really important question that they're going to have to answer if they're going to make any kind of self-defense case relating to this, which is, why did he have a knife in school in the first place?
	The big question that a lot of people have is why was this young man armed on school property?
	That's an understandable question, but it's not something that, frankly, we're prepared to even go into.
	This is something that I know the police and the prosecution want to get it right and want to have a full and fair investigation, and so do we.
	So it would be irresponsible for me or them at this point to start saying, this is what happened, this is why.
	Anything. So I understand that's a big question.
	It's going to be a big question.
	And it's something that we will find out.
	And we ask that the public, as hard as it is, withhold judgment and let both of these families have justice.
	That let both of these young men...
	You know, the Metcalf family and the memory of who they've lost, but also Carmelo, have a fair and full justice process.
	Floundering. Why is he acting as if there is an equal amount of victimhood on both sides here?
	Well, because he's the defence lawyer, so he's got to represent his clients and he's got to present this to the public in a way that means that he's trying to get a fair trial.
	I didn't really mean to phrase it that way, but just...
	I just hate the fact that he's trying to imply that...
	Because, I mean, he...
	That there is some kind of justice for Carmelo Anthony that doesn't end up with him in prison.
	Yeah, that he's the victim of this circumstance is the implication here, and I really despise this.
	Again, I think this is why it's such an open and shut case, which is I don't know what kind of argument the defence are going to be able to pull out of their rear end to be able to explain why it is that he brought a knife to school and managed to provoke an altercation with a student that he'd never met before from a completely different school.
	There's no getting around that.
	That's open and shut.
	He sounds like he was looking for an excuse.
	Yeah, he said, touch me and see what happens.
	I brought a knife, I'm just going to pull it out and stab you in the chest and then run off.
	He goes under the wrong tent.
	No, maybe that's just a nothing situation, but they ask him to leave, and then he starts on them, and then escalates the situation, and he knew the entire time he had it.
	If you weren't looking for trouble, why didn't you just go, oh, I'm in the wrong tent, sorry.
	Come on.
	But we have the reports now from this.
	Minister Dominique Alexander.
	Carmelo is safe at home.
	Now, this is after, obviously, he was walked out of the jail, and the news reporters were following along behind him, asking questions, very reasonable questions like, why did you have a knife on you?
	How are you going to explain that as self-defense?
	He refused to say anything.
	Something that we always notice about these kinds of killers is the dead eyes.
	They always share this same expression when you see them in photographs.
	And this statement was, this moment is a reminder that a community united can never be divided.
	Interesting the kinds of figures that they unite around.
	The journey ahead is long, but today we celebrate a victory for justice, for family, and for the power of people coming together to protect our youth.
	Nobody came around to protect Anthony Metcalfe.
	Nobody except his brother stuck around to protect him.
	I hate to do it, but if the shoe was on the other foot, there wouldn't be the same community coming around Austin Metcalf if the roles had been reversed here.
	It's interesting how it's always that a particular community rallies around murderers.
	So, do you know anything about this?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, I'll let you...
	Don't worry.
	I decided to do a little bit of looking into this Dominique Alexander guy, and he has got...
	Quite the background on him.
	Obviously, you can tell just straight away.
	Minister of Justice, Political, Civil and Human Rights.
	Activist. President and founder of the Next Gen Action hashtag Black Lives Matter.
	So you can tell straight away that this guy is a race grifter of the highest order.
	But then I saw other people underneath.
	Remarking on his background and decided to do a little digging of myself.
	And man, this guy's history goes back quite far.
	So, first of all, in 2021, he had a family violence charge dismissed against him.
	So, you would assume that he didn't do nothing.
	He didn't do nothing, obviously.
	but according to the report he was arrested in 2019 when connection to two family assault family violence assault charges in April 2019 he was charged with one felony and one misdemeanor after he was accused of shoving and attempting to strangle his former partner and
	according to the Dallas Morning News his former partner signed an affidavit saying she would not testify or participate in the case adding she felt betrayed by the way the Dallas Police Department handled
	Which does not mean that he did not do it, it just means that their case fell apart when she said she wouldn't testify.
	And as an activist in Dallas, 31-year-old Alexander speaks on behalf of families of victims of violence and has been a leader of protests in the city.
	Alexander organized protests denouncing the shooting of Botham Jean by Amber Geiger, and he participated in protests in Dallas over police brutality in summer 2020.
	So he's obviously got a background to him, he's organized a lot of protests.
	What else has he done?
	Well, he's been arrested on felony theft charges back in 2017, where they say in here, the deputies arrested...
	Next Generation Action Network.
	Wait, let me just double check that name because I want to just double check something.
	So now he's Next Generation Action.
	Let's just double check that.
	Next Generation Action Network.
	I just want to make sure that the name's always...
	Yeah, Next Generation Action Network because he's known to...
	Shift the names of his organisation every so often as soon as people start to ask him for his tax returns.
	That's how you know he's honest.
	Oh, yeah.
	But he was arrested at his home in North Dallas on theft charges stemming from a 2016 dispute from a lawyer.
	Police took Alexander to County Jail, where he was booked and released in $1,500 bail.
	Alexander is best known for organizing the July 7th, 2016 police brutality protest, where a gunman opened fire on law enforcement personnel.
	He told the Dallas Observer that he was being charged in that case because of his notoriety on Dallas's protests.
	So that ended up getting five police officers shot.
	Oh, that's that one.
	Someone killed.
	Yeah. Oh, I remember this.
	Yeah, this guy organised that protest.
	Not that I would judge him for the actions of a crazed gunman at a protest.
	Yeah, the gunman apparently had watched a lot of the Young Turks.
	And so a lot of people were saying, well, Cenk, this is your guy.
	But I think that's a really unfair thing to do.
	Jenk isn't arguing for that.
	Let's see what else he's been up to in his time on the public scene.
	So according to court records, Next Generation Action Network leader Dominique Alexander pleaded guilty in a felony theft case and was given two days credit for time already served.
	He faced up to 20 years in prison for the theftage.
	So one thing you'll notice with this guy is he keeps getting arrested for crimes and then basically given no time in prison for it.
	According to a Facebook post made by the 32-year-old, he claimed he was innocent and pleaded guilty to charges to avoid going to court because he would not have faced a fair trial.
	Isn't that convenient?
	After four years of this hanging over my head, I decided to avoid a jury trial in Trump County that wouldn't have given me a fair shot at all.
	The Dallas Observer revealed that Alexander was charged with theft of property between two and a half grand and 30 grand.
	According to an August indictment, the theft stemmed from a credit card processing company deal that went bad.
	The punishment for the offense officially includes a fine and six months to two years in prison.
	However, penalties were enhanced because Alexander had been previously convicted, another one, of felony forgery charges in January 2013 in Dallas County.
	This is the one I saw.
	Apparently he gave a child brain damage or something.
	It doesn't go into any more detail on what happened to the child, but...
	I saw people posting other things about this guy.
	Apparently the kid had detached retinas and brain damage.
	Jesus Christ.
	Well, for that, he received probation.
	Jesus Christ.
	According to the Dallas Observer, he violated the probation several times.
	What a surprise.
	But nothing ever happened.
	When eventually he...
	Ignore all those blemishes on his record.
	He's got a clear record.
	Yeah, when eventually he was...
	Uh, convicted of a number of things that was supposed to get him two years in prison because he'd already spent two years on probation.
	That was counted as time served, even though he violated his probation numerous times.
	This guy's such an easy ride.
	That's a good question.
	Perhaps it's, uh, judges like this one who decided to lower the bail for Carmelo Anthony.
	What were you going to say, Lewis?
	I don't actually know what to say, if I'm totally honest.
	It's funny that this guy ends up in this case and designates himself as a spokesperson for the defence and decides to start trying to help with the legal case as well.
	Birds of a feather.
	Yeah, birds of a feather, but if you ask me, this is not the kind of guy I'd want backing me up.
	Doesn't exactly make you look particularly innocent.
	Honestly, I'm kind of thinking there might be a kind of ethnic interest network that's operating in this area.
	I have to agree.
	That's kind of what it looks like.
	Also, there are allegations of corruption within his foundation.
	What a shock!
	I can't believe that!
	Numerous statements from this woman Sarah Fields saying that he has done this thing quite a few times where he will continually subtly change the name of the organization whenever they start having to file with the IRS.
	They've only filed twice with the particular foundation that they're using now.
	When they get the status revoked a new one is started
	Basically, Black Saul Goodman.
	Well, yeah, okay, fine.
	Charming. I mean, the sleaziness is there.
	The sleaziness is there, but also Saul Goodman, if I'm rewatching at the moment, never beats a child.
	That's true.
	He does support a man who poisons children, but, you know, that's one degree of separation.
	He personally doesn't.
	Render a child unconscious with brain damage.
	Yes. But Carmelo Anthony's newly hired attorney, Kim T. Cole, also is Dominique's attorney as well.
	In a recent press conference, he spoke as Carmelo's advocate, stating that the bond was too damn high.
	Can I not have someone else as my advocate?
	Like, this guy, do I have to have this guy?
	Well, I mean...
	I don't know, because he seems to have done a lot of shady stuff in the past, been convicted for it, and still got off with basically no prison time.
	So maybe you do want this guy in your corner.
	This thing, you remember the Jussie Smollett stuff?
	And how nothing really came of that for Jussie Smollett, even though he should have gone to jail and stuff like that.
	This kind of ethnic advocacy network that is embedded in the legal system and has this kind of closed circle where Kamala Harris is related to it and stuff like this.
	This is what it feels like.
	I don't know that that's the case, but It's definitely a network of people who all share the same interests looking out for each other's backs.
	I suspect they might be personally involved.
	I mean, like I said, I can't prove anything, but this is what it smells like to me.
	But he's already started lying about the case and trying to distort the details of it, so he said that Carmelo Anthony said to Austin Metcalfe, don't put your hands on me, when we all know from the police report what actually happened was he said...
	Excuse me.
	Put your hands on me and see what happens.
	Two very different statements with two very different meanings to them.
	Because what he actually said was an invitation to start trouble.
	He said, come try me, is essentially what he said.
	Let's see him talk, eh, and see what a charming speaker he is.
	Mello Anthony, from the beginning, has continued to display.
	His self-deflints claim.
	And I believe that in America, I always tell this, and I'm just going to speak truth to power in this situation.
	It is crazy that America tells us to accept the self-deflints claim of George Zimmerman, Kyle Rittenhouse, and so many other people.
	But when the shoe is on the other foot, that claim is absurd.
	And I just got to call a spade a spade.
	No matter what my personal views of a case may be, it is quite contradicting for America to come back and say, oh, Cal Rittenhouse can have it.
	George Zimmerman can have it.
	All of these individuals that don't look like the color of my skin can't have it.
	In the state of Texas.
	Yeah, I think that's about enough of that.
	Eye rolling, sighing.
	I mean, he's clearly a race grifter.
	He sounds actually mentally handicapped.
	I don't know if I'd want him speaking on my deflents, but this is the kind of narrative that they're trying to push that, well, Kyle Rittenhouse got self-defense, George Zimmerman got self-defense.
	It's only because of the color of his skin that he's not getting the same fair treatment, even though the circumstances are completely different.
	We had footage of Kyle Rittenhouse that showed him clearly defending himself.
	The actual reports of what happened with George Zimmerman show that he was clearly defending himself.
	Also, the loads of wounds that he was covered in.
	Because he was assaulted before he shot...
	I forget the name of the one that he shot, but either way...
	Which one?
	Rittenhouse or George Zimmerman.
	All of these cases end up being the same, and now they're trying to flip the script and trying to make it, again, a race grifter narrative.
	Also, some more background information on him.
	Hang on, Martin.
	Yeah, yeah, thank you.
	I'd forgotten as well.
	So, this was interesting.
	So, he was detained back in 2020, by the looks of it, at a county jail, and then all of a sudden, a load of his supporters started to march at the county jail and start protesting and such.
	Criminal race grifters.
	If you associate with a criminal race grifter, I'm going to assume you are a criminal race grifter.
	Speaking of associations with criminal race grifters, here's Kim T. Cole, who's his attorney, hanging out with that annoying senator or congresswoman, Jasmine Crockett, that you see the clips of.
	Just like Jussie Smollett and...
	Kamala Harris.
	I swear to God, these are kind of like ethnic interest networks that go from the activist to the legal system to the political system.
	So what we're finding is that this woman who is elected in the United States government, who has many, many clips of her going all sassy against her Republican opponents for being racist...
	And other such accusations is directly associated, or at least has photographs with these people, which is very, very interesting when you talk about the ethnic interest networks that are being set up.
	Speaking of which, his defense attorneys are going to be joined by Carmelo's two best friends, Dindu and Nothing.
	And that is the entire community, or at least a large community, All ganging around him to defend him and try to continue this argument of self-defense.
	Like this one.
	This post by Mike Baggs.
	That's got 13,000 likes, 2.2 million views, trying to quote penal code from Texas, saying that, oh, he had the right to use force to protect himself when he reasonably believed it was necessary to prevent imminent harm.
	There is such a thing as reasonable force in a case like this.
	Proportionality. He brought a knife.
	There's the mitigating circumstances of the fact that he seemed to provoke the incident in the first place.
	Hey, go back up a sec.
	Yep. So he says it there.
	He was within his rights to feel that a knife might be necessary means of self-defense.
	He brought the knife.
	To protect himself from the use of deadly force of serious harm.
	There was just no reason to think that there was the threat of deadly force of serious harm.
	But they're going to make this argument anyway when you start to point out all of the holes in it.
	They don't care.
	They will continue to regroup and rally around this case because they have seen that one of their own is in trouble and they do not care about any of the circumstances.
	A large group of these people do not care about any of the circumstances.
	They just see, one of my own is being arrested.
	I must protect him.
	I have to get him off because he didn't do nothing wrong.
	And if he did, Whitey deserved it because they be racist.
	It's not just that.
	He's a payday.
	They raise money on the back of this.
	Also, this one was particularly interesting because immediately underneath he shares this picture of a knife saying, honestly, right now is a perfect time to get one of these.
	And if you ask me, that looks like incitement to violence.
	Personally, that's what I take from this.
	Absolutely tasteless at best.
	Yes. And he also leaves a link further down, a link to the Help Carmelo Official Fund.
	Let's see what it's up to now.
	$442,000, where they state that, by they say, they've had to change the description since yesterday.
	So yesterday...
	Yesterday it said, And now they are trying to change it again to specify this is not the bail fund.
	This is not the bail fund.
	This is to help us with the legal defense and everything else.
	You can also see here all of the comments left by the recent donations.
	So, black excellence, 100 US dollars, nothing, just donating again.
	The more these hateful whites show their insecurities and fragilities of losing dominance, sending love, light, and justice to King Carmelo, speaking full exonerated...
	So when they see a case of someone clearly provoking a situation where they get to stab and murder a white kid, when you arrest them and try and bring them to justice over it, they say that this is injustice.
	This is oppression.
	This is us being fragile, insecure of losing our dominance.
	Not being murdered.
	I don't want my kids murdered.
	Anonymous giver, praying for you at this time.
	May God provide all the strength that you need.
	No weapon formed against you shall pass.
	People leaving Bible quotes.
	God, please shower this young man and his family with blessings and favor.
	He's a murderer.
	He's a murderer.
	I'm donating it again after seeing the need for additional protection and expenses.
	These crackers need to understand that we are not our ancestors, and they will reap what they sow.
	So it's the same narrative.
	You were made as slaves, so this is payback.
	This is revenge.
	Fantastic. Towards housing and security.
	You've got other ones as well.
	So, first of all, interestingly enough, I double-checked this.
	This judge, Angela Tucker, she's Republican.
	Oh, is she?
	She's Republican.
	And then you get comments like this from Raheem saying, everyone around me is surprised that I support this fund because I'm a black conservative, but look at what word came first.
	Black. I'm black first.
	Thanks, Raheem.
	That's a fantastic example of tribalism.
	Unthinking tribalism right there.
	Although, like you say, there's also a payday in it.
	And if you're going to talk about a payday, let's talk about the Anthony family getting their $400,000 legal defense fund, more than enough to pay the 10%, $100,000 bail to get him out of jail.
	But no, they needed that reduced even more, because what they're actually going to do...
	They're going to say the prosecutors asked his father, Andrew Anthony, why he couldn't use the more than $415,000 in donated funds for his son's defense to pay the original million dollar bond.
	Just 10% of that amount had to be paid.
	Andrew Anthony said instead the fund was to be used for his legal defense, but he also disclosed that the cash would be used for security and to help the family move homes after the threats they've allegedly faced since the killing, because supposedly they've been doxxed.
	The revelation comes after a spokesperson said the family can't leave their home after the address was leaked online, leading to graphic and racist threats.
	But also, again, you have to wonder why they need all of this financial help in the first place, given that they were already living in a $900,000 gated community home.
	Jesus. They already had plenty of money.
	$3,500 per month was the rent for this.
	Look at that.
	They live in a McMansion already.
	And now they're getting another McMansion with the money that people keep sending to them.
	So it really does just seem like, to me, what's happened is their son, for no reason, provoked a situation, murdered a white kid, and now the family, through massive support from black race grifters online, is being funded to get a huge payday from it.
	Yeah, it kind of looks that way.
	Can you live in a civilization where this is acceptable?
	No. Can you live around people that think that this kind of behavior is not only acceptable, but justifiable?
	No. They will literally fund and reward this behavior.
	We'd better put a pin in that.
	Because I feel where you're going.
	No, that was where I was going to end, because I don't think there's anything else to say on that.
	I understand, man, because this is an infuriating thing to cover.
	Matt says, Carl, would Jenk give you the same benefit of the doubt if a Lotus Eaters viewer did something terrible?
	Well, all of our viewers are made of sunshine and rainbows and do nothing but good things and charity.
	So such a thing could never happen.
	But no, he wouldn't, of course.
	But that's why we're better than him.
	I don't know.
	Cenk seems like he can actually be rational.
	I don't think he's that bad.
	I mean, Vorsch definitely would never give you the benefit of the doubt.
	Destiny would never.
	Yeah, obviously.
	Cenk is ironically better than both of them.
	Yeah, he actually is.
	And I don't use him as a metric of anything.
	I think it would be the wrong thing to do.
	And a drunk changeling says, you don't want a criminal lawyer, you want a criminal lawyer.
	Well, that's what he's got.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	Cool. Well, I don't think I could top the...
	Well, the depression from that segment, but we are delving more and more into that.
	Tony Blair is back.
	Oh, God.
	I'm sorry.
	Once again.
	I'm sorry to say he never actually left.
	He never left, exactly.
	The meme is true.
	Fresh from the pits of hell, a whiff of sulfur appears.
	Indeed. This was posted yesterday by the Tony Blair Institute.
	He seems to crop up every time a crisis, quote-unquote, occurs, and is now pushing once again for digital IDs.
	This is nothing new.
	Do you want to watch this?
	If we could, I'm sorry to put everyone through it.
	We cannot continue with business as usual, and change is inevitable.
	This is where technology like digital ID becomes critical.
	institute's own analysis shows that introducing this in the UK would save at least $2 billion a year and likely more by reducing losses to fraud, improving tax collection and better targeting of state support.
	Indeed. It looks like skeletal.
	And Tony Blair's own institute would never produce studies supporting the thing that he already wants, right?
	By the way, the Lotus Eaters Institute has realised actually lowering immigration would be very good on all sorts of things.
	The Lotus Eaters Institute also said that if you subscribe to Lotus Eaters, you'll actually be saving money in the long run.
	It's scientifically proven.
	Indeed. Do you mind if I borrow the...
	Oh, no, yeah.
	Is that all right?
	Thank you very much.
	Just quickly.
	Sorry, borrow the what?
	The house cat?
	I couldn't think for a second then.
	But obviously we've all been following Blair for quite a long time and trying to...
	Makes sense, really, of what he's up to.
	And he seems to crop up every single time, like we've mentioned, every time a particular crisis or something has happened.
	And he's trying to use this as a justification for things such as digital identification, setting up an infrastructure for other things such as facial recognition, which is becoming not, well...
	Transitioning from a conspiracy, quote, theory to reality now.
	Well, you already see it in supermarkets.
	I went into an Asda recently where I looked up and they had the security screen that you can see yourself in and the first thing that happened was a big green box highlighted my face.
	So I can only assume that that was some kind of facial recognition scanning going on.
	I had to do it going onto the plane coming back from America.
	Yeah. And in terms of what Tony Blair is after, I think it's pretty clear that what he's after is the technocratic state.
	Indeed. China-style facial recognition network, so you're never not monitored.
	Exactly. Tony Blair said in this article, well, it says, bring in digital IDs to get tough on populism.
	The former Labour Prime Minister, who backs identity technology systems and facial recognition, believes the public will gladly sacrifice privacy for efficiency.
	Probably right.
	I was going to say, for a significant enough portion of the population, he is right.
	Probably right.
	He says, quote, What the populists do is they take a real grievance and they exploit it, but they very often don't want to have a solution because solutions are much tougher than talking about problems, Blair.
	Shots fired at Farage right there.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Farage is like, well, I'm not going to do mass deportations.
	He's going to talk about illegal immigration forever.
	Says the grievance would be on immigration.
	That the thing is out of control.
	The grievance would be on crime.
	That we're not doing enough on it.
	So you say, okay, here's what you do.
	And then you have a big political fight.
	The populist is forced to choose.
	You've got to create an agenda that the other side has to respond to.
	Yes, this has been the complete failing of Nigel Farage, actually.
	I agree.
	Totally agree.
	Tony Blair is literally calling him out here, exactly as you say.
	Tony Blair is laying out, he's not even being subtle about it, he's like, okay, you want to be an effective political operator, here's what you do, and so many people on the populist right, just because it's coming from Tony Blair, will stick their fingers in their ears and say, la la la la, I can't hear you, instead of actually taking what is effective advice.
	He's a modern day Saul Alinsky, he knows what he's doing.
	It seems the goalpost with this seems to move quite a lot.
	I think we all remember this particular speech when he was at the World Economic Forum talking about a digital infrastructure.
	If we just play that just briefly.
	You need to know who's been vaccinated and who hasn't been.
	Some of the vaccines that will come on down the line will be multiple shots.
	So you've got to have, for reasons to do with the healthcare more generally, but certainly for a pandemic or for...
	For vaccines, you've got to have a proper digital infrastructure, and many countries don't have that.
	In fact, most countries don't have that.
	So, it's very clear.
	He's very, very keen on it, and has been for a long time.
	It's been a bugbear of his for decades now.
	He's wanted to push this through.
	Coincidentally, recently...
	A friend of mine posted this, and you were mentioning air travel as well.
	AirFrat done a really great thread on the recent news that there'll be no boarding passes, no privacy, and it'll be the new face of travel.
	Big changes are coming to global air travel.
	The UN's aviation body plans to eliminate boarding passes, check-ins, and even physical passports, replacing them with facial recognition and digital credentials.
	There is a part of me that hates.
	Travelling because of the check-ins, boarding passes, and all of the hassle of that.
	Facial recognition is going to win over the normies by just being convenient.
	It will.
	I know.
	It's genuinely going to do it.
	It's scary as well, to put it mildly.
	And you can see it.
	With the infrastructure, it doesn't just start with convenience.
	It then expands and expands.
	And this happens with a lot of legislation.
	It's like...
	It's like building a tank, right?
	You take Parliament as a state, as like a tank.
	You're putting all these weapons and stuff onto it to use as self-defence, and then it just aims at its own citizens.
	So I already see, I mean, we can already see it, that this can be completely abused in the long term.
	No, no, no, it can.
	Will. Will be completely abused.
	I mean, imagine how quickly.
	Keir Starmer is going to find those people who posted something that he doesn't like on Facebook.
	Like, my God.
	But there's obviously plenty of evidence.
	The UK government website, if you really want to bore yourself with, has all the frameworks, has everything that you need to know.
	You don't even need to pull it off of random sites of Google.
	It's all there.
	Enabling the use of digital identities in the UK.
	Secure connected places.
	This is another thing it ties into.
	Secure connected places, otherwise known as smart cities.
	Yes, unfortunately, the infrastructure is actually already here and we are paying for it.
	Things such as the behavioural insights.
	Sorry, forgive me.
	Yeah, the nudge units, the behavioural insight teams, such as the nudge units that push narratives using various technologies and, of course, using mass media control.
	But here's another thing.
	As you know, I've been doing some Freedom of Information requests on lots of different subjects, and one of them I found and I had a reply to, and I didn't know what to do with it.
	I put in an FOI request into...
	And how much are we paying or the state is paying to bring in things such as flexible microchips to be used for these frameworks?
	And last month I actually received a response.
	And £60 million of public money went to a thing called Pragmatic Semiconductor, who makes flexible microchips used in Radio Frequency Identification, or RFID, smart ID cards and track and trace systems.
	The DSIT is funding AI infrastructure, security frameworks and AI assurance programs.
	These enable digital ID enforcement, biometric surveillance, smart city monitoring, and centralised behavioural tracking.
	And to me, like I've mentioned at the bottom, it just looks like a foundation of a social control grid.
	It is.
	Yeah. That's the reason that they're doing it.
	If it didn't give them extra control over society, what would be the point of it?
	Exactly. And I looked up...
	It's a UK-based flexible microchip maker with its headquarters located in Cambridge.
	It recently received £128 million in total.
	And it's the largest ever financing for a European chip company.
	And it was founded in 2010.
	It's been going on for quite a while, and it's an ultra-low-cost, flexible, integrated circuits technology.
	They're thinner than a human hair, can be bent, and are able to be embedded inside objects like product packaging, and they are then assessed through radio interference technology.
	And I didn't quite know what that was.
	I'd never heard of it before.
	The RFID?
	Yeah, I'd never really looked into it as much.
	These are the chips in your...
	Passports and stuff, right?
	Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
	And whilst I was looking through that, there were some things that I was reading that I thought was a little bit scary.
	It says, RFID uses electromagnetic fields to automatically identify and track tags attached to objects.
	An RFID system consists of a tiny radio transponder called a tag, a radio receiver and a transmitter.
	When triggered by an electromagnetic interrogation pulse from a nearby RFID reader device, the tag transmits digital data, usually an identifying inventory number, back to a reader.
	A primary RFID security concern is the illicit tracking of RFID tags, tags which are world readable, pose a risk to both personal location privacy and corporate slash military
	security.
	So they're all already talking about how it's a bit dodgy.
	It's going to be used to track you across the world, potentially.
	Essentially. The readers can potentially use RFID information to identify or track packages, persons, carriers, or the contents of a package.
	Several prototype systems are being developed to combat unauthorized reading, including RFID signal interruption, as well as the possibility of legislation, and 700 scientific papers have been published on this matter since 2002.
	So... There's plenty, well, you've got plenty of reading out there to look into what's being done, but I thought it was interesting to bring up the 60 million funding.
	Some of that was exempt, I must say, from that.
	Freedom of Information request.
	Because we're competing with the likes of China, the EU, and America, they didn't release some of the information because it was commercial interests.
	So there's some conflict there.
	Essentially, Digital ID is basically already here, and unfortunately, we are all funding it.
	So one thing I find interesting about this is the fact that they're so flexible, right?
	They can be put in anything.
	Essentially, what this is going to be an attempt to do is to identify everything.
	Yes. So literally everything, every object will be tracked.
	The point being a massive data harvesting operation.
	So whatever the central power that is operating all of this is, we'll basically be able to create a kind of 3D map.
	Yeah. Of everything in the world is the purpose of it.
	Which is, I mean, you've got to admire the scope of what they're asking for.
	Pretty sure that's the end of The Dark Knight, isn't it?
	I don't know.
	I haven't seen it.
	I'm not a comic guy.
	They hack into loads of basically everybody in the city's phones to create a 3D digital real-time map of the city by sending out radio frequencies.
	And that's basically what they're going to be able to do with all of this.
	And even in the film, the guy who sets it up turns to Batman and he's like, this is way too much power for one man.
	You can't do this.
	Because they use it to track down the villains.
	And he's like, the second that we're done with this...
	I'm switching this off.
	You're never using this again.
	This is exactly the justification, like you say.
	It's going to be, well, you know, you've got to worry about crime and immigrants and this, you know, we'll bring it all in.
	And then suddenly the government literally has a virtual but accurate map of everything in the country.
	And this is why a lot of people are theorizing that it's the reason why...
	Politicians are allowing stuff like this to happen, to usher in something else.
	I hate the future so much.
	I know.
	And I was reading some of the comments after posting the infrastructure and the 60 million funding, and people were just there like, what do we do?
	What can be done?
	We can't.
	There's nothing.
	It's already here.
	And I'm sorry to say it.
	I don't know.
	I don't really have a solution for opting out of that sort of thing unless you want to go off-grid.
	I mean, how long are they going to let that happen?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Homeschooling's gone.
	What does that even look like?
	Yeah. In England.
	You move to the middle of a tiny woodland.
	Live like a savage.
	And then the government knocks it down for new builds.
	You can only have nine chickens as well before they rest you for that.
	It's literally going to end up being the end of Brave New World, where John the Savage runs off into the woods in England somewhere, and he's used as a kind of carnival spectacle, where the people from the civilization come and look at the savage man living in nature until he eventually just hangs himself.
	He doesn't want to be a spectacle for these people.
	Well, that's fun.
	Yeah. So, I know, unfortunately, yeah, after finding out that we're, well, it's not a surprise, really, that we're already funding the infrastructure, and it's out of our pocket, not anything else.
	Yeah. Mental.
	Yeah. So, Rumble Rants, Dog Breath of Third, while I appreciate- We're not reading that one.
	No, I was going to say, while I appreciate that you sent the $2 in, thank you very much.
	We definitely can't read that one, but thank you for your support anyway.
	And Hewitt says the Dark Knight thing can already be done with 5G.
	Yeah, that's true, but at least with my phone I can turn it off or I can put it down.
	I can move away from it.
	Like, if it's every single item of clothing that you have has one of these, you know, every object.
	So even if you personally can walk off, okay, but they still have a map of everything in my house.
	Like, oh god, I hate it.
	It's genuinely a cyberpunk dystopia that we're creating.
	Anyway, so I thought we would talk about the vibe shift, because I hear the word vibe shift, well, two words I suppose, being used a lot, and it's never in a consistent way, and I thought it was just an interesting thing to talk about, because it is true that we are in some sort of transformative position at this point.
	Things are changing, but the world is full of moving pieces, and it's hard to see exactly where things end up.
	I mean, you've got like this just post that I found on the internet, no views or anything, but this, this kind of summarize it like Easter, 2024, join the white house.
	As we celebrate transgender day of visibility Easter, 2025, the white house honors the death of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of
	For anyone who is in the UK, you can look at the number 10 Downing Street Twitter page and find, you know, Indian, Muslim, Jewish, Jain.
	Jane, yes.
	Buddhist, but no Christian celebrations are there.
	So you can see how the division has been drawn between the multiculti and the native, I suppose.
	And in America, the native has at least won out on this.
	So, yeah, that is a vibe shift, and that is true, but this isn't like...
	People are treating these like tidal forces, and in a way they kind of are, but it's not one way or...
	Permanent or anything like that.
	And this, I mean, you know, this is a good example.
	And also, there's a kind of time delay on all of these things.
	For example, a bunch of video games recently put out video games that awoke.
	Video game producers put out video games that awoke.
	And they tanked.
	Because the vibe was not, we want woke video games.
	In fact, the vibe was, we don't want woke video games.
	But they were like, yeah, but this took us five years to make.
	So five years ago, you're all for woke.
	What's happened there?
	And it's like, yeah, well, the vibe changed.
	And fair, okay.
	Is vibe shift not just another term for woke being put away?
	That's a form of vibe shift.
	The vibe shift is...
	And if it's coming from SNL.
	Well, that's...
	Well, yeah, that's...
	That's about as establishment as you can get.
	Absolutely. That's the description of the vibe shift.
	So you could have a vibe shift back in the 10th century, which was away from Anglo-Saxonism and towards Normanism in England.
	That's the Anglo-Saxons being put away.
	The 10th century or 11th century, commentators may have said.
	So the vibe shift is just the general change in feeling and the sort of moral atmosphere of what is appropriate and what is not appropriate.
	And as you pointed out there, Harry, Saturday Night Live put out a video.
	I'm not going to play it just because I don't want to get copyright struck.
	But in it, a gay couple come along and they have a baby.
	And all of the straight couples...
	Oh, the surrogacy thing.
	All of the straight couples are like, where did you get the baby?
	How did you produce a baby?
	Wow. Yeah.
	Yeah. And so, as Helen Joyce here points out, well, the vibe shift is real.
	And yes, but it's also moving in several different directions, because there's no one direction in which it can move.
	So yeah, the gay dad sketch.
	Everyone pointed out, oh my god, you know, how did this get made?
	This suggests that the libs are kind of walking all of this back.
	And I saw this on...
	LBC today, Tom Swarwick was laughing at some guy who said that, like, you know, I can't remember what he was calling white supremacy, but he was calling some nonsense white supremacy.
	And Tom's like, oh yeah, here we go.
	It's like, dude, you've courted this in the last 10 years?
	What are you talking about?
	You know, you believe this stuff, or at least you did until five minutes ago.
	Because, like I said, the vibe has shifted.
	So another vibe shift coming up to the UK is that actually more young people are going to church.
	Of adults surveyed, 12% reported that they attended a church of any denomination at least once a month in the last year, compared with only 8% in 2020.
	Not including weddings, baptisms, christenings, and funerals.
	But just because they felt like going to church.
	And so this would suggest a growth from 3.7 million in 2018 to 5.8 million in 2024, a 56% increase.
	And it is owed largely to younger generations.
	The Zoomers are now the second most likely age group to attend church, of course, the other being Boomers.
	And that's very interesting.
	So things are changing, and it is a vibe shift.
	And you can see this in some quite stark places.
	Anything about that that raises eyebrows?
	Excuse me, I never would have expected somebody to post that.
	Is that a lightning bolt behind?
	Okay. Who is posting it?
	Retired. RN and business owner speaker.
	She's a woman who got famous for accusing Bill Clinton of molesting her.
	Oh. She has 1.7 million followers and is part of, like, BoomerCon American media, right?
	What? And so she's posting...
	And then she's posting...
	Yeah. Is that the...
	Wasn't the lightning bolt?
	Wasn't that Mosley?
	I was going to say that was Mosley, wasn't it?
	Yeah. White Lives Matter with the fascist symbol.
	That... White nationalism, quite blatantly, and that has 102,000 likes.
	And 19,000 retweets.
	Well, again, referring back to the first segment of today's podcast, I think people can see the way in which other communities rally around their own.
	And this has become more and more clear as social media has allowed these incidents to be broadcast, and especially more and more clear as body cam footage from police incidents has been broadcast online as well.
	So people are getting the feeling that maybe it's time that we rally around our own as well, and I think that's what's motivating this show.
	Well, as Tom London, or Tim London here, sorry, he represents the kind of previous paradigm, doesn't he?
	I fully understand this place.
	We need to play their games however it should read.
	All lives matter.
	That's the commitment to not playing their game.
	That's the commitment to playing the colourblind liberal.
	Fresh Prince paradigm.
	And, well, it seems that a lot of people, 102,000 likes on 1.5 million views, so that's a very high proportion.
	And we're absolutely sure she manages her own account and this wasn't some Zoomer trying to get himself fired.
	I don't know, man.
	I mean, it's a popular post.
	Yeah, I don't know whether she managed her account, but, like, the point is it's under her name, so you've got to suggest that you've got to have it that she's the ultimate...
	Author of it, whether she agrees, you know, if she doesn't agree with it, she should take it down and render an apology or something.
	But I'm not trying to say she has to or anything like that.
	I'm just saying...
	It's not the sort of thing that you'd expected to see even last year.
	Exactly. So this is a...
	We do appear to be going into a very different place now.
	But one of the things about going to this different place is this, right?
	So this is a teacher.
	Who is reprimanding her students for bullying a kid with a MAGA hat?
	The kid with a MAGA hat is crying, right?
	I'm gonna...
	What? She spends the entire minute berating the lib students for bullying this kid with a MAGA hat.
	He's there just on his desk crying.
	And it's like, right, so now Maga is the crying wimp who gets defended by the angry black teacher.
	Are we sure that wasn't some kind of sketch or something?
	Because it comes across like one.
	Especially with it ending with her saying, put your hat back on!
	Yeah, I'm not joking.
	It's not a shift.
	It's not a sketch.
	And so that is very weird, and I can...
	I think there is a distinct vibe shift to the right.
	There seems to be a lot of just evidence for it.
	And again, like you said, even a year ago, none of this sort of stuff would have been present anywhere.
	And I think Twitter has had a lot to do with this.
	As much as I appreciate Elon Musk allowing the right to express itself on Twitter, I think there is a kind of grimy side to the right that maybe he could have just cleaned up a little bit.
	But anyway.
	So then you've got people saying, well, look, I actually think that this is going too far and too fast because the great vibe shift towards right-wing politics is actually fading, at least on the outer fringes of it,
	not due to the left but due to the right itself.
	This is clearly stupid, off-putting and incoherent to normal people, just for vibes and edgelordism, which can be fun but isn't serious and is unstable for politics.
	And so this is then...
	A lot of these things are a response to various silly things that people in positions of power on the right have been saying, which of course turn off a lot of normies.
	The apex point of this is Trump suggesting that he's going to annex Canada.
	Not very diplomatic and not very wise.
	But you've got here...
	Nick Fuentes, acolyte running for governor of California on a platform of deporting all male undocumented immigrants, which I agree with, and then giving all the females one year to marry a Californian incel to avoid deportation.
	Deportation, even.
	And is that...
	It just feels like a laugh, though.
	I mean, that is a feminist.
	But the point is, it's the entire thing, right?
	It's like...
	Right-wing politics is not being treated as cocktail party politics now.
	It's being treated as lowbrow and unappealing, and it's having effects.
	The tariffs, for example, should have been done very surgically, and gradually as well.
	If Trump has said, look, I'm not going to do too much, I'm just going to put a 10% tariff on China, and then 20% next year, or next month, and then 30%, then by the end of the year it's 60%.
	Like, if you're a businessman, you're like, look, I think he's going to keep doing this.
	I'm just going to get out of China, right?
	And so if your point was to immiserate China, it would be more sensible to do it in a slower and more controlled way.
	But instead, the Trump administration went in by bulls in a China shop and just started smashing stuff, right?
	Well, I agree on the tariff stuff.
	Yeah. But with this, I mean, let me just see here.
	Like, who the hell is this?
	Kyle Langford guy.
	Who's this woman interviewing?
	Nobody's right.
	Who cares about this guy and some joke platform that he's running on that's never going to get any more than 100 votes?
	2.1 million people and 9,000 people have liked it.
	It's not that...
	He himself is important.
	I don't think it's of interest to the right to be highlighting this sort of stuff themselves when you see that the left for the past five years, it's not like every time some Antifa scumbag came out and did or said something terrible, the whole of the mainstream or online left came out and felt the need to denounce him.
	They just ignored it because it's obviously just some fringe weirdo.
	That's kind of part of the reason they lost, right?
	I think it is.
	I would say it's because of their absolute...
	That's absolutely part of it.
	But we were very easily able to tie the extremities of the left to moderate centrist left-wingers because they failed constantly to denounce the craziness in their own party, in their own platform.
	I mean, most of those stories really didn't last more than a week or two anyway, except for the George Floyd riots.
	I think there have been quite a few over the years.
	Point being is, and I'm not saying the right has to do anything or anything like that, I'm just saying I think that a major problem with the left is that it looked crazier than it actually was, especially for people like Obama and things like that, right?
	They get tarred with the extremist association because he never does anything about the extremists, and the left completely courts their own extremists.
	I'm not saying that we should or shouldn't do anything, but the right-wing media was able to amplify these things beyond What their actual impact is.
	And that's what left-wing media is doing with things like this.
	Yeah, I just don't think it's productive for the right to go broadcasting this and pearl clutching over some joke that some random nobody has said.
	I'm not saying that we should.
	I'm saying that we should just be aware of what is happening outside of our usual sphere of vision, right?
	And this is the sort of thing that's happening, and this is just an example.
	But like I say, you get other ones and whatnot.
	And so you get a bunch of elites who kind of threw their hat in with the Magosphere.
	Oh no, Nathan Koffner.
	Yeah, I'm not saying that these are people I necessarily care about.
	He's one of the HBD centrists, isn't he?
	Yes, he's very much one of those.
	Along with everybody's favourite Richard Hanania.
	We will get to...
	Oh no, you've not got Hanania in there, do you?
	I personally don't have him in there because I have him blocked because I don't see why anyone would hear from him.
	But the point being is that they're trying to lead a vibe shift away from the right and they do have arguments that can be persuasive to people who are not already invested.
	And so, I mean, he makes a...
	If I'd known that MAGA would become a poverty cult obsessed with bringing Chinese sweatshops to the US, I would have supported DEI Kamala.
	So, all of the bad things that the left would have done don't matter.
	However, as far as I'm aware, no one anticipated Trump would declare war on every other country on Earth and tank the economy for no reason.
	The problem isn't Trump, it's that the American so-called right has become a coalition of stupid people from across the political spectrum.
	It's not just that either.
	It's that the American right, and just the right more broadly with its victories, has been less restrained than it ought to have been.
	It ought to have...
	Come in and said, right, now we are in charge.
	We're going to fix problems.
	Instead, there's been a lot of fury and noise about how we're going to dunk on people.
	And, okay, that's fun, but it also has consequences.
	And one of the consequences is it turns off those people who were sort of fair-weather coalition members.
	And you might think, well, why do we need them?
	It's like, well, you needed them to win.
	And if you expect this movement to have a legacy...
	You'll need them to be the ones writing the legacy.
	I will say, there are parts of this analysis, actually, reading through it, that I don't disagree with.
	However, I will say, I really dislike this whole intellectual peacocking that people like Kofnus do, where they constantly like to try to signal that I'm high IQ, I'm high IQ, I'm high IQ.
	Because you know that...
	The people who are the smartest in the room are the ones that constantly have to reaffirm to you and themselves that they have the highest IQ in the room.
	I don't necessarily disagree that parts of MAGA has become a coalition of stupid people.
	No offence to the MAGA people watching this right now.
	I'm saying there are parts of the coalition.
	Just a quick thing.
	I've got Cat Turd blocked as well.
	I've got Richard Hanania and Cat Turd blocked.
	They're both net deficits to the MAGA movement.
	But here, at the lowest IQ levels, the left and right converge on fascism.
	What you're revealing to me there, Nathan, is that you are just a boilerplate shitlib who's read some biology.
	And likes to read into IQ literature so that you can make yourself feel smart.
	Because MAGA, sorry, is about the furthest thing from fascism apart from personality cult.
	Apart from, if you want to call it the gayest, most liberal, fascist personality cult that history has ever seen, maybe then, but it's not fascism.
	I mean, come on, you are revealing your own blind spots and stupidity by making a statement like that, by trying to imply that MAGA is fascist.
	But one thing that he's pointing out, and he points out at the end, is that MAGA won without being culturally mature, right?
	And so this kind of cultural effervescence we see coming out of MAGA, which is doing damage to America's soft power, if nothing else, and its cultural influence and relevance, is...
	It is definitely a critique worth hearing, even if it's from someone you don't like.
	Because he is making a good point.
	I absolutely agree that the way that the administration has been dealing rhetorically with its own allies, particularly those in Europe, the past few months, has been openly antagonistic.
	They're treating us like enemies.
	And you can say what you want about the actual governments of Europe.
	I have plenty of problems with them.
	Treat the governments of Europe like enemies?
	Sure, I consider them enemies.
	But even then, Even then, if you can recognize that the governance of Europe is not great right now, you do still, as part of a Western coalition, need to treat them responsibly if you want to be able to make any reasonable change with them.
	If you put them on the back foot straight away and treat them like enemies, you're going to do a very poor job of convincing them around to your side.
	I mean, they literally did all of this back to front, right?
	Like, if you want to go on a full-scale tariff war against China, I'm completely for it.
	Don't attack all of your allies first and they'll be like, right guys, we're going to get around and have a trade war with China.
	They don't want to have a trade war with China now.
	They want to have a trade war with America and they're looking at China as being the place of stability.
	So you did this exactly the wrong way.
	You should have been like, right guys, we're in charge.
	We love Europe.
	We love you guys.
	We're going to have a trade war with China.
	We're going to win it.
	Make everyone commit to you and not China while they're in your good books and while you're in their good books.
	You've got to kill them with kindness.
	Exactly. You know, butter them up, bring them over, and then engage the trade war.
	And then after they're committed, they're like, yep, no, we're definitely working with America and not China.
	Then be like, right, now you all have to change.
	I want those hate speech laws repealed.
	I want this.
	I want that.
	Because they're already committed and they've got nowhere else to go.
	They've just declared China an end.
	But instead, MAGA did this the other way around.
	And so now it's put itself in a position of profound weakness and Trump had to...
	Back down from his trade war on China, which it didn't have to be this way.
	I think the tariffs against China are still in place.
	Trump's asked China for negotiations.
	China also did ask Trump to lift tariffs on certain other products as well.
	So it's not that China are just in some unassailable position.
	It's just who can play chicken the most securely, right?
	Who's bravest?
	With regards to the cultural shift...
	Do you guys see it downstreaming towards Europe at all?
	Because I know with X and everything being opened up and we're seeing a lot of this stuff on our timelines now, like you've been pointing out, do you see in the foreseeable future that that might actually transition to over here?
	I think it's just undamaged here.
	I think MAGA's explosive power has just made it more difficult to be right-wing in Europe and Canada.
	On the ground for me, being younger than both of you, I will say...
	How old are you?
	I'm 31. Oh, really?
	He's an old man.
	Hi, Grandad.
	Sorry, go on.
	I'm whippersnapper.
	I personally see the Gen Z split by gender the same way that you see reported.
	Connor has done a lot of work reporting on this, where all of my male friends are...
	Far more right-wing than all of the women.
	Even my male friends who come from leftist family backgrounds have all shifted to the right because it's become impossible not to see the problems that we're facing and they accept all of that.
	A lot of the women are still...
	Remaining committed leftists, and some of them are going further to the left in response to MAGA and what they see as the rise of fascism, etc., etc., which they've had drummed into their heads.
	I've seen that exactly the same with my friendship groups and old friendship groups that I used to hang around with.
	I think it's because the establishment and the Westminster class, the bubble, have all adopted Progressivism.
	And then when you have the outsider bubble say, actually, I don't like that, it's seen as like a threat almost.
	So it's purposely pushing people to a more Paul Embry-style politics, where it's like blue labour almost.
	The problem, though, is that if Trump has to climb down from the trade war and essentially scare all the hoes all around the world that the global economy is going to collapse, Yeah.
	That weakens our argument.
	So if we say, look, we would like to go into a more patriotic direction, they'll just run to the end of this line and say, right, you want to crash the economy, you want to do this, which of course is not what I would like.
	But it hasn't helped.
	Do you think, though, the rhetoric in Europe is slightly different to America and, let's say, North America, well, Canada, sorry, is what I mean.
	Do you find that the rhetoric involving with...
	Topics such as immigration and, you know, the idea of obviously re-migration or, you know, talking about replacement migration has shifted a lot more in Europe than it has in America, despite this vibe shift.
	The Americans are still very fixated on legal and illegal immigration, whereas in Europe I think people are just immigration.
	Yeah. Yeah, I think on the continent you can see even the social democratic countries of Scandinavia, that they want them out.
	Germany is really struggling to prevent the AFD rising because they want them out.
	In France, they've been subject, the same as Germany, subject to so many terror attacks that there is a sizable base of people who want them out.
	And the continent...
	If it weren't for the fact that there's been the post-war firewall against right-wing parties, which is still trying to keep itself together, if there were real right-wing parties allowed into Germany or France into the positions of power, I think we would see that the feeling on the continent is...
	Pretty extreme.
	It would be a lot more hardcore than it is now.
	Yes. But the reason I bring this up is because Michelle Goldberg at the New York Times wrote this article, The Vibe Shifts Against the Right.
	And I think this is something to be sensitive towards.
	Because, remember, the left, up until about two or three months ago, had completely collapsed.
	The moral legitimacy of the left had collapsed.
	But what the...
	Trump administration's sort of mishandling of the first couple of months of their own premiership does is give the left time to recover and time to find their footing, find to lay Legitimate criticisms on them, which isn't actually helping anyone and is actually just helping the left.
	I think it's important to point out as well that the mishandling that you're talking about has mainly been on the geopolitical stage.
	It's been very, very recent stuff as well.
	I mean, there's lots about the Trump administration that I praise.
	I love Stephen Miller.
	I love Tom Homan.
	I love the, no, we're just going to catapult every illegal over the border.
	Southern border crossings being reduced to such a ridiculous extent as we looked at last week is only a positive thing.
	Yeah, and there are a bunch of other things that the Trump administration plans to do as well.
	But for some reason, coming in with such an aggressive diplomatic posture, I think, has really hurt them.
	And it's hurt us too.
	So it's not been great, I have to say.
	And one thing that it's important to be sensitive to is the kind of...
	Consensus politics of the left and, as you were saying, Harry, women, which is feeling the vibes.
	What are people feeling?
	And you've got people like Alex Castucha.
	I can't pronounce that properly, but I've been on her podcast.
	It was apparently a right-wing podcast, but she's decided, actually, I do want the left to trans my kids.
	She's decided that, quote, the vibe is shifting yet again.
	The cumulative IQ of the right is looking worse than the market.
	Yeah, it seems to be the tariffs that pushed her over the edge back into transitioning kids.
	I would imagine that people...
	I'm just joking.
	I'm just joking.
	The swings, I would imagine.
	The swing voter types, I imagine, they're just going back to a kind of milquetoaster.
	She's not a swing voter.
	She's become disillusioned with the right-wing movement because to her, and the sort of the Curtis Yarvin sort of wing of the right, is being right-wing is a kind of status signal.
	To say, I'm not just a plebeian, shit-lib leftist.
	And actually, I'm cool, I'm edgy, I'm part of something really avant-garde and cutting-edge.
	And what the MAGA movement has done is because the MAGA movement is so plebeian in its fundamental constitution, it looks that way.
	It's very belligerent, it's very cat-turned.
	And they're like, oh wait.
	These sorts of people are now culturally dominant, but they're cringe and low IQ and embarrassing to be around, and so I actually don't want to be associated with them, so I'm not going to be right-wing anymore, or I'm going to leave the right, or I'm going to do whatever.
	And there are lots of people who feel this way, and that is a...
	A real issue, because there are a lot of people who are concerned about this kind of consensus mechanism, as feminine as it is, rather than with what is right and wrong.
	And this has alienated a bunch of tech bros that supported Trump.
	It's alienating sort of the cool kids club that supported MAGA.
	It does alienate a lot of people.
	These are people that you could keep on side with just a bit more finesse in the messaging and the actions.
	Because fundamentally, if Magra come in and not been hyper-aggressive and just said, right, okay, thanks for electing us.
	We're going to fix the country like we said we would, and then just start deporting millions, changing a bunch of the laws so kids can't be trans, do whatever things are.
	Without making a big song and dance about it, the win would have gone on their side and the loss would have gone on the other side.
	But as it stands now, because of the kind of belligerence of the right, the left is clawing back.
	I do think to connect it as well, I'm sure you lads agree with this as well, the consistent slop posting as well on the right has definitely contributed towards this gigantic shift.
	100%. Elon posting slop.
	Yeah, I'm so bored of it.
	Don't post this stuff.
	It's for money.
	It's for monetary gains.
	It's not for anything substantial anymore.
	I get a bit disillusioned with it, especially scrolling through my feed.
	There are things that pop up that I just...
	I get that.
	You look for other content and it broadens it.
	But when it's just like, oh, this person said this at a whatever.
	How awful.
	And then loads of emojis.
	I don't know.
	I don't really know.
	One of the things that we've been trying to do at Lotus Eaters is up our game.
	This is why we dress nicely and get good guests on.
	The problem I think a lot of people have with Twitter at the moment is that it is just lowest common denominator content churning mill, right?
	Twitter used to be a kind of aristocratic platform that was kept clean of this kind of stuff.
	Now, it had lots of other detriments, but Elon kind of reducing it to lowest common denominator.
	I mean, I like the fact you can get paid to post on Twitter, but there should be some kind of barrier to entry just to prevent Indian scammers.
	From forming cabals on there and just, you know, taking hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the advertising revenue, right?
	Like, there shouldn't be loads of Nazi stuff all over Twitter.
	That's very low class.
	That's very low brow.
	You know, the constant antisemitism, the constant, like, just gross posting that you see on there.
	It's like, this didn't happen before.
	I'm not saying censor people because of political opinions.
	Let people write an essay on why you should be a Nazi or whatever, right?
	I don't care.
	That's fine.
	It's the tenor of the discourse.
	There's no standards.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, there's no standards anymore.
	It's all monetary.
	It's all driven by that.
	Yeah, and it's driven by just vulgarism, and I think that is to Twitter's detriment.
	But it's also, because Twitter is viewed as a right-wing platform now, which would be good if it was still kind of classy and sophisticated, but because it's not, it's putting off a lot of the cool kids who go to the New York Times, and you see how the narratives get filtered and things end up, like,
	things that weren't true become true.
	This is a kind of journalistic alchemy that they're doing, and the only way to prevent this is to kind of heighten up the ship a bit.
	And so that's my thoughts on the vibe shift.
	J.M. Denton says, alienating the tech bros was inevitable.
	They are the Infinity H1B crowd.
	I would never have principled MAGA commitments.
	Yeah, the thing is, it doesn't really matter about that as long as you make them feel that they're part of a cool club.
	Well, yeah, you've got to appeal to the coastal elites' biases.
	Yep, you do.
	Matt says, regarding dealing with trade issues, Trump tried to handle this in the way Carl described in the first term.
	Allies said they were not changing anything about the trade tariffs barrister US goods.
	Yeah, but that's why you should have...
	Incrementally raise them on China, I think.
	But I'm no expert, so don't listen to me.
	That's a random name, says, The solution to this gender divide is fairly simple.
	Restructure society in a way that recognizes that voting is not a right but a privilege.
	One vote per land-owning household.
	Thoughts? It's never going to happen.
	I like the idea, though.
	I hope the vibe shift is a principle's last and not just a trendy thing to do at the moment.
	Well, a lot of it is about trends, frankly.
	Yeah, human nature.
	Love trends.
	Habsification says, the world of the anime Psycho Pass is becoming more real.
	Harry, if you haven't watched it, it's really good and pertinent.
	Have you watched it?
	I haven't watched it.
	I looked it up.
	It looks interesting, so I will maybe give it a try at some point.
	No promises.
	And that is not true, Drunk Changeling.
	My love pillow has nothing to do with it.
	Let's go for video comments.
	They're still out there somewhere in the wild.
	So glad I made this.
	Carl, I'm just watching your Owning the Libs video, and you've got a good heart, man.
	I see where you're coming from, but there's no two-sides with this.
	When one side wants to destroy the other, you can't give them an inch, right?
	You've been giving them inches for years.
	They've been taking miles.
	It's time to start taking miles back, man.
	Oh, I'm totally in favour of taking everything that they have.
	The question is, once you've taken everything that they have, what do you do with them then?
	And essentially what you need to do is give them a little playpen, right?
	So MAGA should...
	Weird about Curtis Yarvin praise this segment.
	Curtis Yarvin did a speech in Miami a while ago that I was present at.
	It was a really good point.
	He said, look, you need a plan to own the libs because what are you going to do with them when you win?
	And nobody had a plan, obviously.
	But basically, they need a kind of little play plan or plantation or something to sit on and be like, right, so we're going to save the climate, guys, blah, blah, blah, while the real business of governance gets done by the right and actually fixing things.
	So it's not that you don't...
	You know, you don't win.
	Obviously, you have to win.
	But what do you do with them after you've won?
	And if the answer is, we don't know, well, then they're going to do what they want, right?
	They're not going to be doing what you want them to do.
	They're going to be doing what they want to do.
	And so they will begin clawing their way back in.
	And that's not good.
	So a plan does need to be had, I'm afraid.
	Create the Matrix.
	Hook them into the matrix.
	Because that's literally what they want.
	24-7 non-stop goon machine.
	Have a plan.
	And that's all they want.
	And the thing is, I bet if Trump had come out and gone, right, I'm going to create these goon machines in San Francisco.
	You made eye contact.
	We know it's true.
	The thing is, if Trump had come out and gone, no, we're going to create a giant goon matrix for San Francisco.
	For New Yorkers.
	You're going to live forever in constant ecstasy and bliss.
	And 90% of leftists go for it.
	Well, there we go.
	Libs owned.
	The problem of the people who want to kill you removed forever.
	And then we can use them as batteries so it's also clean for the environment.
	Exactly. That would have been fine.
	That would have been a plan.
	But as it is at the moment, there has been no plans.
	And the technocrats like Blair get one over it as well.
	Oh, they'd love it.
	Yeah. They'd love it.
	I think I've just solved all of our problems.
	Soylent goon.
	We put the libs into the Goon Matrix and used them like the computers did in the film.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Have you been to Overgoon?
	I have.
	The place is laced with prostitution.
	Well, it isn't, but talking with my mother this weekend, she mentioned how fresh housing developments in Devon are heavily invested by cities from elsewhere in the country.
	She mentioned Birmingham and Liverpool.
	The trouble is, as Ilfracom found out some years ago, when the developments are completed and the fresh influx takes place, crime and drugs become rampant and the local police struggle to get control.
	No kidding.
	William Shatner was my hero, actually, when I was a teenager.
	I used to love him.
	I thought he was awesome.
	He's still quite based to me.
	Yeah, he's quite based.
	Is there another one?
	I'm still shocked he's alive.
	Yeah, I know.
	So am I. Furious Dan says, I recall that Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't even allowed to crowdfund his defense, despite all exculpatory video evidence being available within 24 hours of the event.
	Yeah, that's an interesting thing, isn't it?
	You've got all this crowdfunders taken down.
	It was such an obvious case of self-defense the day after even...
	Destiny was defending him.
	Yeah. That's how you know it's a bad case for the libs.
	Destiny-Vorsh debate on it.
	So funny.
	Yeah. But Destiny's just like, I can't even shoot someone who's coming at me with a gun.
	And Vorsh's like, no.
	What? Have you asked the mob?
	Yeah. That was his actual argument as well.
	I mean, if the mob's coming after you, they must want to get you for a reason, so you should just let them.
	That's so good.
	Oh my god, Vorsh.
	What happened to that guy?
	Is he still out there?
	I think he's still out there.
	Baron from Warhawk says, I never want to hear the term white privilege ever again.
	Someone online says, in the father's defense, the stabbing itself was probably not racially motivated.
	You don't know.
	That's the thing.
	To be fair, I think there's an argument to be made that, yeah, he probably was just trying to provoke a fight with anybody.
	But the response...
	He does say, the racist part is the insane reaction from the community.
	Deciding the death of the white kid is okay because it's a recompense for injustice like OJ Simpson.
	Yeah, that was the same thing that got OJ Simpson off.
	And at that point, you have to say, okay, well, if this is revenge, if this is...
	Us being paid back for what we did to your ancestors, or at least the American whites, for what they did to your ancestors, when is the debt repaid?
	How many times does it have to happen until you say, okay, we're even now?
	Or is it just a blank check?
	Give us a number so we can tally up the crime statistics.
	Incorrigable Frog says, if only we judge these people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.
	If only.
	Jimbo says...
	Remember, the American guy got stabbed to death in front of his girlfriend because she was woke and far-type and refused to cooperate with the police.
	That's how much a white man's life was worth.
	Yeah, I do remember that.
	Just walking, there's a camera of it, and some guy clips him or something.
	He turns around and stabs him.
	There was a few cases like that, one after the other, that people were putting into little picture compilations.
	Leftists getting stabbed by diversity in left-wing areas that they supported it.
	It's like, well...
	You get what you ask for.
	You get what you vote for, yeah.
	Fuzzy Toaster says, an honest legal system would simply look at the facts and render judgment, but nope.
	You can guarantee we're going to see some indirect jury intimidation.
	Yes. Well, I mean, Dominique Alexander already seemed to have had people coming outside of the county jails that he's been held in.
	Protesting. Definitely not intimidating anybody.
	So it's not like he's got priors on this.
	Well, exactly.
	And the sort of ethnic interest loop through the system is going to make sure that this kid, this murderer, doesn't face justice.
	Frankly. Henry says, who knew that slapping someone on the wrist constantly for multiple crimes leads to repeated re-offending?
	Imagine my shock.
	Yeah, and it's the same with Carmelo Anthony himself, where they're like, oh, he's got an unblemished record, except for this one incident two months ago that was swept under the rug by the school.
	Yeah. Yeah,
	and that's another thing.
	There are going to be times where the system just says no.
	What was the show that had the system says no?
	Oh, was that Little Britain?
	That was.
	Computer says no.
	There are going to be times where it's just computer says no and then some just retard who's just going to be like, well, the computer says.
	And you're just going to be like, okay, but that's not true.
	But the computer says it is, so now jail.
	Whatever it is.
	Five months in prison.
	Yeah, just...
	I hate the future so much.
	It's just the removing of all human element.
	From everything.
	Tony Blair's ideas for what's going to happen with these super GPs that will be looking after 250,000 patients at a time and it'll all be conducted with GP chatbots.
	How is that going to help?
	How is that not just going to be a disaster?
	We've all dealt with chatbots when you're going onto a website where you've ordered something and it's not arrived yet.
	So you go onto the little chatbot and say, where's my order?
	Which order is that?
	You put it in.
	Oh, we can't find that order for you.
	The system is hardly foolproof.
	Henry says, Data Protection Act...
	It's going to be like 2001 or something.
	UK... A lot of references to 2018.
	There was the Data Protection Act 2018.
	You carry on.
	You carry on.
	Thomas says, today, digital ID to protect you from terrorism.
	Tomorrow, did you sort your rubbish properly?
	Oh wait, replaces the Data Protection Act 1998, yeah.
	There we go.
	The year after.
	Brilliant. Yeah, it's introduced by Matt Hancock, but that was the 2018 one.
	Yeah, thanks, Matt.
	Yeah, thanks.
	The Unbreakable Litany says, Darth Blair will never leave.
	Tony Palpatine does many works, a lot of them the shadows of our politics.
	Totally true.
	DLV says, one of the chances that the UK state allows for immigrants and crime, for immigration and crime to increase in order to have a mandate to introduce more surveillance measures.
	Well, it's going to be an inevitable...
	Tony Blair has been pitching it as the right-wing thing to do, bringing this ID to track the illegals.
	Amazing. Don't fall for it.
	Omar says, I think the right needs time to find equilibrium as we'd...
	This is a great point that I wanted to make, but I didn't have time.
	And that's absolutely true.
	There was definitely a kind of eugenic effect on the right while it was locked out of, or at least, you know, I've made this point before.
	People weren't happy at the time when I said that Elon has opened it up to make Twitter worse.
	Not in terms of persecution of right-wing voices, just that opening it up to such an extent has really lowered the quality.
	And it's incentivized the slot.
	Yes. It's very frustrating because it would be nice to have a high quality place to do this.
	There are also just lots of problems that I find where I'll mute a particular name, still pops up.
	Say, I'm not interested in these ads, they'll still pop up.
	Not interested in this account, they'll still pop up.
	There are lots of glitches where no matter how much...
	Okay, I'm not interested in this type of content, get it off my feed.
	It'll still find a way to get back on there.
	It's very strange.
	I've done that as well, yeah.
	And finally, we'll go for Chase.
	Carl, your point about the Trump administration making it difficult to be conservative is spot on.
	I've been a Trump enjoyer since 2016, same as you.
	And even in Canada, it was beginning to look like a much more reasonable position.
	We were winning since the tariffs and annexation threats...
	A Canadian being MAGA is such an oxymoronic position that you simply can't explain it without a 15-minute nuanced conversation that isn't realistic in everyday small talk.
	It's left us high and try, and it truly sucks bigly.
	Yeah, it's made being a shit-lib the patriotic position in Europe and Canada, which is not good, actually.
	You know, that should be for the patriots, not the shit-libs.
	But anyway.
	We are out of time on that, so thank you very much for joining us, folks.
	Lewis, thanks for joining us.
	Thank you.
	If people want more from you, where can they find you?
	They can find me on x, lewis underscore Brackpool, Instagram as well, occasionally post on there, and YouTube, just my name.
	Thanks for joining us, folks.

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