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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 995 on today, Friday the 6th of September 2024.
I am your host Connor, joined by Harry.
Hello.
And Luca Johnson.
Hi.
Who last time was on the show was on our election night.
Have you recovered yet?
It was kind of worse than the jet lag back from Japan.
Not gonna lie, it was pretty severe.
Well I hope all this gets flushed out of your system.
Time for us to discuss today how men have struck again over in Germany, the Tenet media Russian disinformation story, obviously we've got friends involved so we wanted to get into that, and the colonisation of the proms.
But one thing that is British culture that has not been corrupted we will be discussing today at three o'clock.
Finally we are doing the Hot Fuzz Roundtable that internally we have promised since establishing this large studio.
Harry, you want to say something?
I've only just seen this thumbnail.
One, this was my idea, so why is Josh in the middle?
Two, why that picture of me?
Why that one specifically?
Samson, you've got a lot of answering to do, my friend.
It's actually the laughing boomer face, but like young Harry.
That was me!
That was me trying to pass a mouse to Josh.
It was turned into a, you know, Adam and God moment.
This is revenge for all the time you've been hitting the desk, basically.
Far too animated for your own good, my friend.
Anyway, if you're a premium subscriber, you'll be able to watch that live.
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Without further ado...
Turns out men have struck again!
If you remember a few weeks ago we discussed how men from the nation of No Fixed Abode, very violent country that one, have been committing lots of crimes across Europe and they're all men of a particular demographic that we cannot notice.
Well today we're going to be going through three new and updated case studies about how these indiscriminate men seem to have For no apparent reason, uh, committed Islamic terror attacks.
Shock.
But before we do that, Islander merch is on the website.
I believe today is the last day that you can get the Islander merch from the first issue.
Maybe because there's another issue on the horizon.
Who knows?
Ooh.
But Rory designed all this merch, and this t-shirt in particular is a very good looking one.
He's put a lot of effort into it, so... We all love this t-shirt.
It's an amazing t-shirt.
I love sort of classic 8-bit Orcs and Elves games, so it's... I don't wear graphic tees, but if you are inclined to wear graphic tees, remember, this is like the only way to support us other than donating on the website or subscribing to the website, which you should also do, so please consider it, and this will be limited edition, so you can boast to all your friends if you have those.
Don't know why you'd want them.
Anyway, on to an update.
What's happening in Germany?
Why was everyone voting AFD?
Could it have been that the 15% migrant population are committing 41% of the crimes?
What crimes, you ask?
How about a terror attack?
So, yesterday was the anniversary of the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre.
If you don't know what that is, basically a Palestinian terror group called Black September When he killed 12 people, I think it was about 5 or 6 members of the Israeli Olympic team and a bunch of other hostages.
And then the fight, then there were 7 of those that died as well.
There was a shootout, none of the hostages got rescued.
One of the police officers died.
This caused the establishment of the GSG9, German Police Service.
It was a massive event.
I think it was commemorated at the 2020 Olympics with a minute of silence.
On this anniversary, a bloke turned up outside the Israel Foreign Ministry, in the Munich consulate, and decided to discharge a World War II rifle 30 or 40 times.
Problem is, there was basically no one inside the building, so he wasn't the brightest terrorist of the bunch.
A bit useless.
When Josh told me that this had happened, I asked him, oh, was this one of those new Germans?
And he said, well, it was either them or one of the old Germans.
He used old German weaponry, but he's not even German.
As DW tell us, right, this is an Austrian man.
An Austrian man.
He's back.
Why would Austrian men do this?
Police say, a few hours after the incident, they shot him, by the way, an 18-year-old Austrian, an 18-year-old with Austrian citizenship, but they didn't comment on potential motives.
Currently, this is according to DW, This is a quote from the Munich Police and Public Prosecutions Office in a joint statement.
Currently, we're working on the assumption that it's an attempted terrorist attack, also in connection with the Consulate General of Israel, although the focal point of the running investigations is the motivation of the suspect.
Now, what wasn't mentioned in here about the Austrian man, as revealed by Bild, Lord Almighty, I don't know what button to press for that, But anyway, you can see that in the description.
The attacker's name is, uh, Emrah I. So they've condensed that down.
And he does- Emrah.
Emrah.
E-M-R-A-H-I.
Emrah I.
Typical German name, right?
According to Bild, and Bild, bear in mind, was the outlet that first published the photos and information that the stabber at the Solingen Diversity Festival was a Syrian national, and they got that right, so they're pretty authoritative out there.
According to Bild, the man was born in Austria.
He has an Austrian passport, so we know that makes him Austrian.
Ignore the fact he has Bosnian roots.
Ignore the fact that he's a second-generation immigrant.
This is all just exactly the same as the Welsh man from Southport.
Yep.
Well, there's a slight difference, because obviously we don't know the motivation of the Welsh man from Southport, but I think we can guess here, because the thing that was left out, in 2023, he was reported on suspicion of membership of a terrorist organisation, because the Austrian authorities found ISIS propaganda on his phone.
Conveniently left out of the prior articles.
I looked at a bunch of other articles, by the way, to present to you that were in English, because this one's in German.
You can translate it, but I thought it'd be easier.
Wasn't mentioned in Reuters, wasn't mentioned by the BBC, wasn't mentioned by DW.
I wonder why they conspicuously left that motivation out.
I'm sure it's just men.
I wonder why the AFD are rising.
Yeah, I wonder why the promise of mass deportations is appealing to so many young Germans.
I mean, the point being, totally avoidable accidents.
Incident, not accident.
Don't let foreign criminals into your country.
Would be a fantastic idea.
Same thing's happening in the UK.
Really glad this is not an isolated incident.
We had this come out yesterday.
So the Home Office were meant to be having an inquest about this aspirational marine.
Being stabbed to death by an Afghan.
And they now don't have to do the inquest because the coroner, and this is Rachel Griffin, senior coroner for Dorset, ruled yesterday when- no, sorry, Wednesday, on the 5th of September, there was no need for a full inquest into this murder because she said there was a system of checks in place when this chap, Lawangin Abdul Raham- Abdul Rahim Azi- I can't pronounce his name.
Abdul Rahimzai.
Abdul Rahimzai, that's it, thank you.
There was apparently a whole system of checks in place when he entered the country to check his identity and undertake an age assessment so it's not a systemic failure that he slipped through the net.
We're going to go through the details of this case because I happen to think this hasn't been labelled a systemic failure and hasn't been investigated because it looks so bad for the authorities that led him through the net that the entire immigration and asylum system would fall apart if they admitted fault here.
She said, although there was an emerging pattern of violent behavior and a risk to others of harm at the time of the incident, that the illegal immigrant had used a knife in an act of violence, apparently he hadn't made any threats to kill anyone since arriving in the UK in December 2019.
She said, it's too speculative and remote to state that there was a causal link between these missed opportunities to detect him and Tommy's death.
chap who was killed.
Let me see what you think.
So the details of the case are, Tom Roberts, 21, stabbed to death by this chap, the Afghan guy, who had previously shot two migrants with a Kalashnikov in Serbia while travelling to the UK.
Might have been able to detect that.
So while he was escaping persecution, I assume?
Persecution, sure.
Not one of the interpreters.
Why would he be fleeing from the Taliban?
Why would he know how to use a Kalashnikov?
Is it possible he was a militant?
We can never know.
We can never know these things.
It's not that they admitted that they were using the asylum thing to, you know, literally infiltrate us.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, so, this chap, Abdul Rahim Azi, arrived in the UK on December 26th, 2019, hidden in a vehicle, back of a lorry, on a ferry from Cherbourg, and told the Border Force officials he was 14.
At the time, no assessment was carried out.
Thank God, you're illegally entering the country, but you're 14.
Come right in.
And we're not going to check it at all.
No documents, we're just going to take your word for it, right?
His fingerprints were taken a few weeks later and revealed he had links with Norway and Italy, so he'd passed through other safe countries.
Noted war zones, Norway and Italy.
The fingerprints were then sent to both countries, but with no request for further information, for some reason.
So, they just sent the documents and didn't request follow-up.
If this had been done, it would have revealed that his age was in question, because he's actually 19.
Yeah.
So, full-grown adult posing as a child.
On January 29th, 2020, his foster carer reported that a dentist said Abdul Rahimazi was older than he had indicated, and while it was felt an age assessment was needed, it wasn't done because the authorities felt a mental health assessment was needed first.
They needed to check if he would be upset by being asked his age.
We are not a serious country.
He was placed in a secondary school in Bournemouth, Dorset, so just stuck in a school without the need for an age check, even though lots of people were questioning his age, including his own foster family.
This is literally a George Alexopoulos cartoon.
Yes.
Yeah.
For context, there's one where, you know, there's a school, and they're in the class, and one of the girls gets stabbed, and then it's a full-grown Afghan man with a big beard, and the teacher says, don't worry, it's just his culture.
Well funny you say that, he was expelled for carrying a knife and then immediately enrolled in another school nearby.
Why is he in the country?
You could have just sent him home.
You could have checked his age and deported him, but no.
Then, from December the 21st, 2020, and throughout 2021, there were several incidents and concerns raised around Abdul Rahim Azi, carrying knives, including allegedly chasing another pupil at his school with a knife, which he denied.
In May 2021, he hurt another student at the school, causing an injury.
In July that year, he tried to headbutt his foster carer, who managed to move out the way.
Oh, that's alright then, is it?
In September, when he'd been placed somewhere else, he was accused of assaulting another child.
So just a repeat criminal offender who lies about his age.
Also, let's stop for a moment and consider what we're hearing here.
Is a 19 year old, presumably as time goes on, you know, he's getting to 20, 21 years old.
Here he is.
He's gone.
Yes.
He comes to this country, lies about his age, and then they put him in a school immediately, and he, as a full-grown adult, who should at least, at the very least, be interested in doing other things than hanging around a school that he's too old for, decides to hang around a school, bring knives, and chase other kids around.
How is it not humiliating for him to consider that that's what he's having to go through to try to stay in this country?
So there's no dignity, there's no shame in this person.
Not that I would expect it of someone like him.
And then he goes around terrorizing school children, and this is just...
Normal.
Part and parcel.
This is something that he presumably is fine with.
Obviously I'm not surprised that he was going around terrorizing children, but the entire situation is ridiculous.
If I had to break into a country and do something like this, I don't know if I could look myself in the mirror.
It's only ridiculous because he knows that he's going to be allowed to get away with it.
Because the system somehow operates on the presumption that everyone is just telling the truth, and that everyone is going to be free, equal, and peaceful as soon as they make contact with British soil, so he can one, possibly be lying, and two, he therefore knows that he can do anything, such as acting like the exact barbarian he was back in his homeland and in various countries along the way, and not get kicked out of the country.
Yeah.
Because if we had, I don't know, gone to Japan and claimed to be asylum seekers from our government and then claimed to be 12 and then into the Japanese school and started chasing people around with the machetes, as is a British pastime these days, we'd expect to be sent home!
No.
I'd expect a bit more of a brutal beating than being sent home for doing something like that.
It really is so.
The trail of events that led there that I just find so inconceivable as well that, you know, obviously it's all come to tragedy for, you know, this victim involved, you know, here in Britain, but the risk put on All these citizens in all these other European countries as well, like, you know, it could have been some random Swede, it could have been a Norwegian, right?
Their governments are just as complicit in this as ours because all of them on a European scale are working with such duplicity, such, you know, to all these Uh, people that they're putting at risk in their own countries.
It's monstrous.
They fundamentally believe that it's just a product of education and economics that savages like this are insane, murderous liars.
No, some people are fundamentally morally bankrupt.
And the whole way through, he must be thinking to himself, I can't believe I've got away with all of this.
Obviously, you know, it was good for him that he was able to get away with it all for so long.
Are you laughing at us?
And rightfully bloody so the whole time!
I mean, why- I wouldn't say rightfully so, but- Rightfully so at the systems that allowed it to happen, because they are a bloody joke!
Yes.
So there's some more details here that they might have been able to catch on before we decided to murder this poor young chap, who's actually a massive credit to our country, and this guy is a net drain on Culture, resources and morality.
In January 2022, the authorities held a meeting confirming an age assessment would be carried out because Abdul Rahimazi had been, quote, bringing females back to his placement and was refusing to attend school or engage in education.
Okay.
So, you might think an age assessment might be needed there.
You might think a few eyebrows would be raised, but no, nothing happened.
I'm sure the teachers didn't want to be racist.
In just a normal structure, right, in that school, like, if you'd not turn- take away who he is, right, just a normal child, if you're in that situation, like, you'd be kicked from the school, or you'd be, you know, Excluded or something, because you've not been turning up.
And that didn't happen to him either.
But the problem you have, and I've spoken to people who work in schools like this, problem schools will shift students around, especially if they are non-white or immigrants, because they don't want to be seen as being racist, despite the criminal behaviour of the school pupils themselves.
And what'll end up happening is they'll send them from one failing school to a slightly more successful school, On the premise that the more successful environment will recondition the student, because fundamentally, we're all equal.
But instead, it just makes life harder for all of the better students at the more successful school.
Because the only thing that makes the school better is the character of the students and the staff.
So then, two months pass by, right?
From when an age assessment is needed, because he's bringing young girls back to his flat, to March.
March the 10th, in the evening, 30 hours before Tom Roberts was stabbed, the police received a call about a youth carrying a machete-style knife in public.
The coroner's report, the same woman that says we don't need to look into this any further, right, states that when the police attended his address to speak to the chap, the gates were locked and they could see a member of staff asleep at his desk and couldn't gain access.
So they just gave up.
Great.
Abdul Rahimazi then went on to kill Tom Roberts.
He was jailed for 29 years for Robertson's murder in March 2022 following a trial at Salisbury Crown Court.
It later emerged he was flagged as quote susceptible to terrorism by the Home Officers Prevent Task Group in 2021.
So he was known to the authorities for over a year.
Say the line, Bart.
I wish that had booze in it.
Yeah, I know.
I wish I was still drinking.
Abdul Rahimazi's fingerprints were not shared with Interpol until after Roberts' death, which revealed in September 2022 he had been convicted of double homicide in Serbia.
So he'd killed two people in Serbia.
Right.
On the night of the 31st of July, 2018, Abdul Rahimazi walked into a shed in the farmland on the edge of Don Brinkie, where a group of refugees—refugees—were staying, and gunned down two Afghan men with an AK-47.
So if they would have just gone through the process of actually checking his age with his fingerprints, they would have found out he was already a murderer.
If they would have done any of the age checks after he'd chased students around with a knife, or Presumably, sexually assaulted women.
They would have found out it was a murderer.
But no, Tom Roberts had to die because the government voluntarily chose not to do their job.
And yet, yet, Miss Griffin, the coroner, says that the inquest did not meet the criteria for Article 2 of the European Convention of Human Rights.
Article 2 states, if the state knew or ought to have known of an immediate risk to an individual's life, it must take responsible steps to deal with that risk.
Of course she didn't rule it.
Because if this implies that the state knew ahead of time this guy could have been a murderer and they could have done things to stop it, then the entire immigration and asylum system is culpable.
It is remarkable, isn't it, that the European Convention on Human Rights seems to protect the rights exclusively of everyone but Europeans.
Curious, that, isn't it?
It's almost like the purpose of a system is what it does.
So, they call everything.
Systemic failure, but the entire point of this was to say it wasn't a systemic failure.
So they spoke to his mum on the telegraphs.
This is Dolores Wallace Roberts, Paul Grieving Woman.
She said, "Home office don't want to engage with us.
They are accountable and there is negligence here, but they just block any attempts to find out more.
They're basically saying it's okay for someone to walk around with a machete in public.
They're supposed to be helping the public and protecting their safety, but instead the coroner is protecting the Home Office, Dorset Police and the BCP Council.
Everything is wrong in this country and it will continue to happen again." I mean, a couple of weeks ago, I covered the Raikou unit that oversees preventing the Home Office, and they spend billions of pounds, man-hour, Even pay actors to gaslight people after terror attacks.
So, your children will be killed, and you'll be told, don't look back in anger.
But then, when these criminals are allowed into the country, preventable measures can be taken to detect whether they're criminals ahead of time, and they can be sent back.
They won't.
They'll overlook it, they won't admit fault, and it will happen again.
And it has happened again.
This time, a woman.
So this woman, didn't have a driving license, ran a man down.
Oghenevwari Shitu, I'm not making that up.
Was driving a green BMW on Nantwich Road, with Stanson, near Nantwich, Cheshire, so close to home, Harry, when her car hit Stephen Ray on the night of February.
You can't notice whether or not the names of the perpetrators and whether or not the names of the victims are any different, because we're all equal after all.
It's not like foreigners are killing the indigenous population.
Shitu, 39, of Roskin Road, Crewe.
Ah, Crewe woman.
Clearly, Crewe woman.
Not from anywhere else.
Right, I'm...
I'm from, crew.
Yeah.
All of these names and all of these place names are very, very familiar to me.
Now, whenever I return home, I've noticed that all of a sudden, I've mentioned this before, all of the old folks around the local town and the town surrounding as well are no longer being escorted around by the usual care workers from, say, 2019 and beforehand.
All of a sudden, it's all being replaced by men and women like Shitu.
Same in my area.
providing shittu service to these people.
And then doing this to locals.
Poor Stephen Wray.
And we wonder why the abuse rates are through the roof.
Reminder, the World Health Organization found recently that two in three care workers have admitted to abusing their patients.
And a UK provisional license with driving without insurance.
Fantastic.
Driving like a typical third-worlder, actually.
She's only been jailed for four years and two months for killing this man.
Why is she here?
Why has she not been deported?
So only a little bit more time than if she'd sent a nasty tweet.
Don't worry, she's been banned from driving as well.
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We've been paying since she's been here, and now we're paying to keep her here, and presumably when she's let out, probably early release, she'll stay here and be a net drain.
And also, this poor man paid with his life for her to be here.
Yeah, quite.
So at this point, immigration is obviously a threat to the indigenous populations of Europe, but they won't admit it because the government can stop all of these tragedies happening.
Their policies are complicit in them happening, and so whenever you try and get transparency from it, they'll never admit fault, and this will sadly just keep continuing.
Anyway, we've got Rumble Rant.
You had to bloody find one that's literally where I'm from, didn't you?
Yeah.
Sorry, genuinely, mate.
I did scour for any other names.
No, no, no.
It's always awful when it hits close to home, and thank you for confirming that I am in the right to...
Give a bit of side-eye to some of the new care workers in the local town.
Yes.
The Last Russian, with $2 on Rumble, says something pertinent to our next topic, actually.
Yeah, this is to the next subject.
He says, how many right-wing channels rely on donations and superchats?
Uh, pretty much all of them because we get demonetised for telling the truth.
If you cover news and receive any foreign money, you're now guilty of the same crime as Tenet Media.
I vote for full transparency there.
No, no, it only matters if the money is from one country.
Yeah, Russian garbage human, we're gonna have to cancel that subscription.
Sorry, mate.
Anyway, take it away Harry.
Anyway, yeah.
Thought I needed to burp and I didn't.
It might just take me by surprise, so we'll see.
Always exciting when you've got a little bit of unexpectedness in the podcast.
Anyway, so foreign money is a big problem in America, being donated to political causes and being used to influence political causes and swing elections one way or another, but only if it's from one country.
only if it's from one country and that's what we'll talk about right now which is that lauren chen friend of the show friend of the show who appeared on here yeah a couple of weeks ago might be in big trouble with the u.s government as has been revealed by an indictment that has been released uh i think it was on wednesday it got released that suggests that her company tenet
Disclaimer that all of this is speculation and allegations at the moment, both because it's being looked into and because the indictment itself doesn't explicitly name anybody, but this does give all of the information needed to identify the people that it is speaking about.
She might have been accepting money from Russian donors involved with Russia Today News.
So this is very interesting.
Let's take a look.
But before we do, we don't accept any foreign money from anybody.
Nobody has approached us that I'm aware of.
If they had, we probably... I would not be... I'd be living in a much nicer house.
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Television show, take money from the Russian government.
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There's some of the other ones that are available.
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Thank you.
Yeah, so let's get into it.
So the NBC News have a quite thorough breaking down of all of this information, so I'll read through some of this and we'll add our comments as we go through.
So, employees of the Russia-backed media network RT funded and directed a scheme that sent millions of dollars to prominent right-wing commentators through a media company that appears to match the description of Tenet Media, a leading platform for pro-Trump voices, according to a review of the charging documents, business records, and social media profiles.
It is worth saying that all of the people, the big names that are employed by Tenet have since come out with statements saying they didn't know anything happened, so it is worth saying that it's Tenet.
Yeah, we will make this very clear as we go through, but you are right to point that out.
And again, it is all allegations, it's being looked into right now, so no need to make any conclusions from this, although I will say, having looked through the indictment documents,
Whatever you want to say about the morality of accepting money from Russia, I would say the intelligence of accepting money from Russia when you're in a basically proxy war situation with them at the moment, and when you know that Russia is always the scapegoat for any political situations in America that don't go the regime's way, I wouldn't say it's a very intelligent move.
But there seems to be no indication whatsoever in the indictment documents that accepting Russian money influenced the views or opinions that were being expressed by Lauren Chen or anybody else associated with it in any way.
It seems that whether or not you think this is a good thing, they were giving money to Lauren because she was already saying things that they were agreeing with, potentially.
Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way: if a congressman believes in gun rights, the NRA will donate to them.
And that doesn't necessarily mean that then their pro-gun positions are influenced by the NRA, it means they've already got pro-gun positions and someone like the NRA is like, we like that you're saying pro-gun positions, we're happy for you to stay there.
Now, on the morality point, I wouldn't see it as any different, morally, from taking money from an outside source if you're just saying the things that you already believe.
But it is dumb, and I say this with Lauren as a friend, and we hope she's doing okay, it is dumb to have accepted Russian money when they are in a de facto proxy war with Russia.
Yes.
I will say the only morally bad part of this whole thing is, I can understand why they would do it, is that it doesn't seem to have been, well, it wasn't made clear to any of the people who were partnering or associating with Tenet, and I do think that that is immoral, because especially when it can get them So I would say, you're playing with their reputations.
We don't know whether or not this was intentional, to obfuscate the names.
As far as I understand, and I'm sure we'll go into the details in a moment, the Russian individuals in question gave pseudonyms that sounded less Russian, and these were probably included on the documents.
Well, I've got the clip of him saying that, so we'll be able to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
But I'll go through this, so it goes through the details.
with them and they were just contractors it's like tim's show tim licensed his show culture war that carl and i were on to tenet he's still going to run the show now it's just not going to be broadcast on tenet anymore well i've got the clip of him saying that we'll be it so we'll be able to hear it straight from the horse's mouth but i'll go through this so it goes through the details the indictment of two rt employees konstantin kalashnikov one of the most russian names i've ever heard in my life That's not a parody.
Yep.
And Elena Afanasyeva, I sounded like a Twin Peaks character talking backwards then, includes allegations that the duo implemented a nearly 10 million dollar plan to fund an unnamed Tennessee-based company as one of their covert projects to influence American politics by posting videos to TikTok, Instagram, X, and YouTube.
The company's description matches that of Tenet Media, according to the NBC review that they had done.
Prosecutors said that the website of Company One describes itself as a network of heterodox commentators that focus on Western political and cultural issues, and that is the exact wording taken off of the Tenet website.
I think that says it all right there.
That gives away the game.
The indictment also states that Company One is registered in Tennessee and has changed its name on or about May 22nd, 2023.
Tennessee Secretary of State records found by NBC News show that Tenet Media entered its new assumed name on that same date.
Tenet has partnered with six commentators, Lauren Southern, Tim Poole, Taylor Hanson, Matt Christensen, Uh, Dave Rubin and Benny Johnson.
The indictment refers to six commentators who are also not named.
So again, you can see how the evidence is all piling up.
It's pretty clear that this is who they're speaking about.
And there were other details included that match those of two Tenet personalities.
They're the ones spoken about quite a lot in The report which is commentator 1 and commentator 2.
Commentator 1 probably Dave Rubin.
They mention in the indictment, oh it's got 2.4 million YouTube subscribers and a person with 1.3 million YouTube subscribers is referred to as commentator 2.
Paul's got 1.37 million subscribers.
Rubin's got 2.44 million subscribers at the time that this report came out.
So it's all adding up.
The indictment also refers to three other commentators including one with female pronouns but lacked any information that could directly identify their channels.
It's unclear from the indictment the extent to which each of the commentators realized where the money was coming from, though it stated that commentator one and two were unaware they were being paid by Russian efforts and had been deceived about the source of funding.
You found that $8.7 million was eventually sent to the production companies of Commentator 1, Commentator 2, and 3 alone.
Payments allegedly made up 90% of the deposits made to the company's account between October 2023 and August 2024.
So yeah, about 10 million dollars to be able to put all of this information out.
But again, it doesn't seem that there's any indication that the money was used to influence these people's opinions at all.
It's just money to help people get opinions that they already believed in out.
We've mentioned this before the show came on, it seems that this was a very, very purposeful release of this information at this very specific time, when you're two months before the election is coming up, to try to discredit a lot of very- you could see how many of those people had huge subscriber counts on YouTube to try to discredit these commentators, because even though they were potentially deceived, even though they weren't influenced to change their opinions in any way,
Best case scenario is that the media is trying to make them look like idiotic fall guys who fell for a scam.
Two things on that.
So first of all, I can say as having been a guest on a Tenet Media show, which was the Culture War when Karl and I were flown out to discuss liberalism with Tim, we never had any of our opinions directed at any point whatsoever.
We just spoke our minds exactly off the cuff without any script.
And the other thing that's important to notice is that Tim Pool, about two days before this came out, announced that he would be suing the Kamala Harris campaign for defamation because she had accused him of promoting genocide.
Very coincidental timing.
Very interesting.
There is one little bit I wanted to mention at the end here, which it says, Tenet Media did not immediately respond to a request for comment from NBC News.
Now, Lauren Chen herself has not made any comments.
She's not posted since this report came out, which is probably that you mentioned they might have taken her phones.
Also, just from a pure political standpoint and legal standpoint, yeah, it's good not to make comments immediately after something like this has gone down.
A representative from RT did respond, though, with a series of text messages, including, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, and we gotta earn our Kremlin paycheck somehow.
So NBC got trolled on by an RT correspondent.
That's kind of funny.
Come on!
For legal reasons I can say nothing that is pro-Russian today.
Yes, this is true.
And while announcing the indictment, Attorney General Merrick Garland, that trustworthy figure who we all know in our heart of hearts has only the best intentions for America's sovereignty and for its citizens.
Spiteful little gnome.
Yes.
said the Justice Department will not tolerate attempts by an authoritarian regime to exploit our country's free exchange of ideas in order to covertly further its own propaganda efforts and our investigation into this matter remains ongoing.
So Merrick Garland has finally found it in himself to defend the free exchange of ideas within America.
Even though Kamala Harris just the other day came out and said she'd basically do what they're doing in Brazil and that, yeah, Elon Musk is off the chain and we need to severely crack down on X. It's for the protection of the free exchange of ideas.
They put parents who are protesting school board meetings over sexually explicit materials in the library on terror watch lists.
For the protection of the free exchange of ideas in school libraries.
What about listing the rosary as a hate symbol under an FBI directive?
The exchange of free ideas in the... Listen, mate, I don't think you get it.
I don't think... Right, there's a dichotomy here.
If the government does it good...
If citizens or the Russian government does it, bad.
So if the American government does the exact same thing as they accuse the Russian government of, it's good.
What about the Ukrainian government when they ban other political parties and close down- It's for democracy.
It's for democracy, clearly.
There is a bit of a...
You can feel though as well that, I mean it's just obviously my opinion, but I think that these mad dashes to clamp down as well, they can feel the pincer movement sort of coming for them, the scythe, just because obviously on the one hand you've got sort of Magrun, the populist right, who is now combined with RFK and that more populist left-wing faction, but they both kind of
Understand fundamentally that America has betrayed its core principles and it's not just clear to America but obvious internationally to the entire world now that this is not the America of old and it's not the America that obviously Even pretends to care about these values, they're just lip service.
It's not even the 60s America where it faked liking free speech, it's not like the 1960s left where they're like, we're totally about free speech man as long as it's about my free speech about how I need an abortion right now.
Right.
But they, you know, so I just, I do feel that there is some panic in this.
Potentially, well...
Yeah, as you mentioned as well, people were starting to try and line up lawsuits against Kamala Harris and then all of a sudden this all gets released.
Obviously this was an investigation that they were already looking into, but releasing the documents at this particular time seems coordinated.
Very interesting as well that the Biden-Harris campaign have been paying social media influencers to put their message out.
So that's not an issue.
Again, Connor.
Free exchange of ideas.
What did I have to say?
If the American government does it, it's fine.
If AIPAC do something, you know, who knows where that money is coming from, that's perfectly fine.
If Hollywood panders to Chinese investors, that's perfectly fine.
But if you accept money from Russia, Just to help with your company?
No.
No way is that acceptable.
So let's look at the statements that have been made by the various- by the six commentators who are involved in all of this.
My box has stopped working every damn time.
Try again.
There we go.
Thank you very much.
Tim Paul's statement says, should these allegations prove true... Sorry, the flag's in his name now.
Tim is a man of principle and honour.
Should these allegations... Well... It's obviously a joke.
Yes, it's obviously a joke.
Or, being the true fence-sitter he is, he's playing every side at the same time.
That way, he always comes out on top.
The guy in the mummy with all the different religious symbols or something.
Yeah, that guy as well!
So he says, should these allegations prove true, because again, these are allegations, I as well as the other personalities and commentators were deceived and are victims.
I cannot speak for anyone else at the company as to what they do or to what they are instructed.
Culture War Podcast was licensed by Tenet Media and existed well before any license agreement with Tenet and it will continue to exist After any such agreement expires.
The only change with the agreement was that the location of the live broadcast moved to Tenet's YouTube channel.
I and the Culture War never produced any content for Tenet Media.
Never at any point did anyone other than I have full editorial control of the show, and the contents of the show are often apolitical.
Examples include discussing spirituality, dating, and video games, good man.
Show is produced in its entirety by a local team without input from anyone external to the company.
Culture war is shared, yada, yada, yada.
And then he goes, Putin's a scumbag, Russia sucks donkey balls.
To the journalists who wish to jump the gun, create their own narrative, you can eat my Irish ass.
So, conducted with class.
Tim is a good laugh.
Yeah, Tim is a good lad.
And, uh, may I have the mouse, please?
So, uh, if we go to the next link as well, you can see that he actually spoke about this and put it out as a quick short on his YouTube channel.
Let's hear it from the donkey- uh, from the horse's mouth.
I didn't say from the time you said that there's this RT employees were covertly funding a US company publishing thousands of videos and furtherance of Russian interests.
And it is presumed that company is Tenet Media.
For those that aren't familiar, this is a new media company.
And we license one of our shows, Culture War, to them.
and And now I'm getting hit up by like everybody in the media.
They're emailing me and they're tweeting at me and sending me DMs being like, what's going on with this?
Well, I'll make clear immediately at the start of the show.
Did you read the indictment?
It clearly says that I, as well as the other personalities, were victims.
We were deceived by people intentionally to trick us into licensing our content to them.
I will add, I have a statement about this, which, you know, we'll launch the full segment, but we never produced anything for them.
We had an existing show that was already in production that they licensed distribution for, which meant that the show that we already produced appeared on their network.
Now news broke the DOJ- And there you go.
Pretty simple, and if you look at the other statements that have been made by the other people who've been caught up in all of this, it's very very similar.
People saying these are allegations, we had a contract associated with them, negotiated I should say, that meant that as he says, Benny Johnson, Got an arm-length deal.
It wasn't influencing any of my opinions.
It was just getting money for the opinions I already hold.
Taylor Hansen said very much the same.
Had complete freedom to cover what I choose at Tenet, unlike any other media company I've ever worked for.
Certainly more so than left-wing and mainstream media outlets that are directed to cover certain stories and get punished that if they don't.
I have not had the opportunity to speak with Tenet founders or anyone at the DOJ, and like you, are awaiting additional information.
Same thing with Dave Rubin.
He points out that if you actually read the document, it includes the screenshot here.
It'll show that he was deceived in all of this.
On that as well...
When I spoke to Lauren when we went to dinner a few weeks ago, there was the impression that I got that not even all of the commentators themselves agreed on everything.
Especially concerning Dave Rubin's use of surrogacy to have a family.
I mean, not all of his other co-hosts on Tenet that didn't even cross over on each other's shows liked that lifestyle choice.
So it doesn't mean that everyone was on the same page either.
So clearly they weren't being given a script if there was internal discord between the shows.
Of course, as you would hope and expect, given that the outlet is supposed to be supporting a wide variety of views.
We do the same here.
Yeah.
We don't all agree with each other here, and we don't need foreign money to be paying us to vehemently disagree with one another, fight constantly, throw slurs at one another.
It's ridiculous.
Honestly, this... ugh.
Terrible.
Terrible.
Not me, though.
Or the monkey.
We don't use the n-word.
Not the n-word, not in this office.
Thank you very much.
Matt Christensen says the exact same thing.
So again, whatever the case is, the point is, even if they weren't influenced to change their opinions, this information is being released as a way to try and discredit these people by making them seem like lackeys who didn't even realize what was going on.
Now, I say that you don't need to be an idiot to be deceived by people, especially when they say, hey, we'll pay you however many hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.
If you're already doing the thing that they're paying you money for, I'd take the money.
I mean, I don't know who wouldn't.
If you at home watching right now were on Twitter and somebody said, I don't want you to change anything about what you're already doing, but here's 10 million dollars to keep doing it.
It might not be wise to accept it from the Russians.
No, of course!
But... I'm not shocked that anyone would take that money if there were no strings attached to the actual content of the commentary.
Exactly.
And again, it's the taking it from the Russians part, which is the really stupid, and then the immoral part is at least not making these people aware that at the very least there is some difficulty attached to this money.
But if it's the Qataris, all A-OK.
Or the Chinese.
Or the Chinese, or anybody else for that matter.
So what has been the mainstream reaction?
Obviously, we saw the article to begin with.
Well, YouTube has just deleted all of the channels of Lauren Chen and of Tenet Media.
Despite the fact that this is still allegations, still being looked into, despite the fact they weren't even actually named in the indictment, YouTube has taken the forward step of... get rid of all of them.
You can still get mine on Carl's Culture War and Rumble.
Yeah, so...
There you go, and the YouTube reporting on this, I took a look to see what most of the reporting is, and most of it is a lot of left-wing media outlets going, Can you believe it?
Confirmed that they're Russian spies!
To the surprise of no one, that's a slant.
Yeah.
Can you believe that?
Can you believe that?
Obviously that's also mixed in with Tim Pool and other people himself, but the left-wing or mainstream coverage of this is more like the Young Turks, where they're saying, see, they were Russian propagandists this whole time, despite the fact that most of them were also very critical of Donald Trump's most recent campaign, which I thought the Russians were in favor of Trump.
No, no, Kamala endorsed Harris the other day.
Putin endorsed Biden.
Sorry, Putin, back in 2020.
Also, just a thing, the Young Turks, what are they named after again?
I don't know what you're on about.
The Armenian Genocide.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fantastic.
Not under the influence of any foreign powers whatsoever.
You sent me something very funny as well, Connor.
Timpool's become the new Sam Hyde.
Something very funny.
Yeah, which is that the Guardian... I don't think they know what Timpool looks like.
Now this has changed, so I looked at the Guardian webpage for this, and they have taken that out, but just to confirm, there's a desktop, so you know this isn't just some photoshop.
They've not actually put the actual picture of Tim Pool in it, they've just removed the picture of Whoever this guy is!
Do you remember when the BBC ran an article on, I think it was a Texas shooter, and Bellingcat had found some obscure Russian social media site that had taken a couple of clips from a debate that Tim had had with Elijah Schaefer about the Ukraine war, and so the BBC article on the Texas shooter just used Tim's face.
You can't keep getting away with this!
For God's sake!
What's going on with Tim?
Like, literally, I know Tim's... Isn't Tim a bit mixed Asian?
Uh, he's, uh, quarter or half Korean, I think.
Quarter or half Korean, yeah.
It doesn't look that Asian!
They just found an Asian guy in a beanie!
It's not even the right beanie!
He doesn't even wear glasses!
Yeah, he doesn't, you're right!
So, that's the kind of reporting that you can expect from The Guardian and other mainstream outlets.
This poor guy, whoever he is... Bear in mind, The Guardian gets tons of money from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, so that's fine.
Taking all that money is fine.
That money's fine.
The Guardian's a British newspaper, so does that count as foreign money?
Um, not sure.
I mean, they do get a lot of money from the British taxpayer, because the BBC basically prop them up by buying physical copies of their newspaper every year.
Oh yeah.
This is true, but still, let's not look into the morality of that or any of the other foreign countries.
Russia bad, got it.
Yeah, Russia bad.
And that's about everything.
If you want to look at the indictment, it's in the links below on the podcast, so you can check it out.
It's 32 pages long.
It lays everything out.
But again, in this, you're not going to find any sort of allegations that they were ...actively influencing the opinions being presented by the people who are associated with Tenet Media.
So, there you go.
We'll see how all of this goes.
Right, so we've got a couple of rumble rants.
We've got quite a few, actually.
That's quite nice.
Scott CY Guy for $5 says, although I'm originally from Scotland, I now live in Cyprus contributing some foreign money.
Limassol is very Russian conspiracy theory confirmed.
I don't know what Limassol is.
It's the capital of Cyprus.
Ah, wonderful.
There you go.
Learn something new every day.
Thank you, sir.
Buka, $5.
How did Tenet Media is being sponsored by Russian money?
If Russian and her oligarchs are successfully sanctioned.
And this donation is from Serbia, so you guys are certified war criminals now.
Damn it!
I knew!
My mum said getting involved in this job would lead me down a dark path.
Hey, it can't be foreign influence if it's not even a real country.
Anyway, Mason Royce, $5.
Do you still believe in the glorious state of Yugoslavia?
I want those big Belgian donors.
I think Tenet appeared on my subscriptions.
It must have been a rebranded dead channel, explains the 300k subs.
My theory, they paid existing content creators to boost the channel before leading on it.
That's an allegation.
Yeah, either be supported or whatever.
So we don't see much.
I don't see much evidence for it It was it was sad that it was deleted because I mean despite any allegations of interference it does some good content on there So did you say yourself?
Yeah, we had a really good episode.
We were the most popular episode Hey, there you go.
And it was also for very fancy Lauren Chen throughout Pearl Davis.
So that was good fun Bald Eagle, 1787, 2 laws.
Funny how all of this suddenly comes to light after Tim Paul and other commentators were going to sue the Harris campaign for slander, libel, defamation and endangering their lives.
Also after Tim did a lengthy segment on Ukraine.
So, they're going to try and co-opt that when it's just patently true that Ukraine's corrupt.
Well, yeah, a lot of the reporting that I saw was pointing to Tim Pool saying a lot of negative things about Ukraine, but you don't have to be accepting foreign money to look at Ukraine and say, mm, we do it for free.
Basically, yeah.
The shadow ban for $2.
This shows the DOJ can get channels that they don't like deleted over allegations.
Quite.
That is a dangerous precedent.
This sets.
Threadnal.
Everyone's very generous today.
Thank you very much.
$2.
I remember Tim bringing up being half Korean and half Puerto Rican almost endlessly.
I don't remember him saying he was half Puerto Rican.
I listen to his show quite frequently.
I know he's mentioned- He said he had an Irish ass, so unless his ass is the only Irish bit of him, I would assume it's more half and half.
But he said he took a DNA test- Unless it's like one half cheek and the other one's Korean.
He said he took a DNA test and found he's part Japanese, but then he realized the reason why.
Oh.
Ah.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Well, yes, average homosexual opinion.
And $5.
Bobo Bad.
Both Chen and Fuentes often featured are both critical of Trump.
So it's baffling to say that Trump propaganda of Fuentes praising Kamala Harris' mommy energy.
Truly a catboy lover moment.
Well, yes, average homosexual opinion.
Yeah.
I don't see how Fuentes has any sort of context that can make that okay when he's on camera going, OMG, she's so brat with his incredibly effeminate mannerisms.
Look.
I'm not a Nick fan.
I don't necessarily want to start a flame war on Twitter, but I did find Milo's tweet very funny, where he said that Nick Fuentes is not a glamorous homosexual, a jubilant homosexual, he's the kind of closet homosexual who you'll find in five years going to prison having shot a tranny hooker in a motel seat.
Five years.
Okay.
Keep a count down on that one.
Anyway, Luke, do you fancy digging us out of this hole?
No.
He's gonna let us simmer down here for a bit.
Yeah, sure, okay.
I'll do my duty.
So, yeah, I wanted to take the opportunity to talk about the proms, because actually, as of a week tomorrow, it's the last night at the proms, which is one of those great British The Proms has been going since 1895, and it was founded by one of the great English composers, Sir Henry Wood.
And it was just such a fantastic way of bringing together, every single night, a different piece from one of the great European composers, from whether it's Mendelssohn or Brahms or Bach or Beethoven or some of our great English composers such as Elgar.
and Rayfawn Williams.
And so I'm going to talk a little bit about that and how, to the surprise of absolutely no one, the BBC just couldn't let well enough alone.
But before I- - Would they Russell T. Davis it?
Uh, yeah.
Yeah, they did.
They literally had the Doctor Who night at the prom, so yeah, they did.
He was literally involved in one of them, so you jest, but no, literally.
I mean, it's a jest, but at the same time, obviously that's what the BBC is going to be doing.
Right, right.
Make it fake, make it gay, put a woman in it!
But before we go to that, I'm informed that you should really buy a shirt.
Not because you don't have one, but because the Islander shirts, they're just so good.
Although if you don't have any shirts, you should probably buy some.
To all of us watching from the Amazon rainforest, hello tribe, here are shirts.
Because it's the last final day and the last final for the Islander merchandise from the first issue of Islander, which went really, really successfully and we had loads of great contributors to it.
And yeah, Rory designed a lot of the images, didn't he, for the Merchants really good and as these guys have commented many times before this is how they make their money This is how Harry is going to eventually live when the Russians don't come to give him the money So he needs he needs the shirt money So look please buy a shirt and if not just move on with tremendous guilt, but now We'll get you to do all our ad-raising for you
I thought I shamed people into buying stuff from us You can tell I've never done this before.
Seamless.
Or shamed them in every way possible.
Right, you really want to hide that torso.
Buy our shirts.
They come in three extra large for all you fatties out there.
If you ever find yourself falling out of a plane, buy one of our shirts.
So, uh, if you guys don't mind sticking me out of this one.
Okay, anyway.
Let's carry on.
We'll keep the focus on you, Harry, because if you go to the next one... Alright.
Must we?
Yes.
Uh, the next, um... If we... Oh, yeah, how... Dead button.
Oh, it stopped.
Oh.
It's dead button.
Dead internet theory.
There we go.
Oh, uh, back one.
Wrong one.
No!
The one... It's fine, I'll do it with the mouse.
Oh, thank you.
It's okay, there's nothing... The link is broken.
Do you want me to... The mouse is dead as well.
Oh, there we go.
So this absolute pearl, I know you posted this a while but it stuck with me.
Decolonize your mind and obviously it's good to have you here to elaborate on all of this but I think in particular the one where you say resist against hip-hop and jazz and embrace classical and metal and obviously it's the classical that I really... Some people took I took against the metal part of it, but I do genuinely believe that metal speaks to the spirit of ancient European man.
Right.
And I think that classical music speaks to the Renaissance European man.
And you've got all sorts of wonderful periods of Western music, from the Baroque era, to the classical, to the romantic, and even into the 20th century, believe it or not.
I don't want to be that cringe guy, because there are some who say, if you think about it, metal's just like the new classical, bro.
No, it's not.
But there is a lot of heavy metal music which is explicitly influenced and cribbed from classical music, including bands like Children of Bodom, whose early material has a lot of neoclassical, where they literally play Mozart with, you know, a four-band, four-piece lineup with it.
But it really translates quite well.
It's really good.
Um, so if you could, uh, oh yeah, you've got it.
It's okay.
I can... Unlimited power.
If the mouse wants to work.
For some reason the mouse isn't... working.
Samsung.
I got nothing here.
No, it's dead.
Swifties have no power here.
Hey, look, we don't need to insult my music taste.
So, this is a piece that I actually wrote last year.
I've been hovering over this proms issue for a while now.
Let me just speak another moment about that tweet.
What I was saying there is not that...
You can't like those styles of music that I was talking about.
I actually have enjoyed a lot of hip-hop and jazz music.
You like jazz?
I do, I do quite like it.
The problem is that it is a foreign export that came to this country from America.
and that if we want to really reconnect with our heritage and our roots and disconnect ourselves from the globalist world order that we exist in we have to recognize something for when it is foreign and for when sadly hip-hop and jazz have negative influences as pieces of culture jazz is explicitly meant to be a deconstruction of typical styles of harmony
Which is one of the reasons so many people find it difficult to listen to because of the fact that it's kind of anti-harmony, anti-melody in many ways.
And hip-hop, I wouldn't go quite as far as Ben Shapiro who says it isn't music at all, but it's pure focus on rhythmic elements and its combination with jazz in the first place.
Um, do mean that it appeals far more to, um, basically a black American, uh, style of music than it would to myself or anybody else.
And I really hate seeing younger people, English people, European peoples who become really obsessed with hip hop, who then start to try and act like ghetto blacks in America.
I agree, yes.
And start adopting that language, adopting the slang, adopting the mannerisms.
Because one, it looks terrible on you.
You look like a weirdo and an idiot and people laugh at you for doing that.
And two, you are further disconnecting yourself from your local traditions, your local culture, and becoming more of a global citizen, which I hate to see.
Same in every commercial gym, the sort of gutter pop that has now fallen back to being Jafakin grime, American rap, and actual Jamaican dancehall music, which is constant.
Like, you'd hear it at Notting Hill Carnival, and I'm trying to get a few reps of Bench out, and I'm just hearing about grinding, and my earphones are not loud enough.
I just drown it out with ridiculously heavy metal.
Which honestly really helps to get those extra reps out.
It really does, honestly.
So what I was talking about, though, was actually something else.
So I moved, I don't live there anymore, thank God, but I moved to London about four years ago and lived there, tolerated it for about four years.
And whilst I was there, one of the things that I thought, well, I'm here, I should go to the proms, right?
I should go to the Royal Albert Hall, Which is a gorgeous, eloquent building from the Victorian era.
I've been there.
It's wonderful.
I saw Stephen Wilson play there in 2015.
A wonderful gig.
Amazing venue.
And the acoustics are phenomenal as well.
It's just so perfectly tailored to... But I'd never... I'd always heard the odd classical piece and I thought, oh, that's really nice.
Oh, I know that one.
You know, those sorts of things that you say.
But then, actually, there was a genuine...
Part of principle that, no, I'm actually going to go.
Yeah, I don't know this piece, but I'm going to go.
I'm going to listen.
I'm going to step into that unknown.
And I just, because also on, if you book on the morning, you can get, it's more accessible than theater or even cinema these days.
You can get a prom ticket for £7.50.
Yeah.
So, um, if you book on the day, so they, it's really accessible to, to anyone.
And so yeah, this piece, I won't go through it really because it's there for people to view and I don't want to just regurgitate all the talking points I've already written, but one of the, I just have some musings about it in terms of the etiquette, the social, sort of social customs of it, because it's actually, it's one of those things that people take it really seriously.
And in a society where everything is just constantly made flippant and it's it was actually a really refreshing experience to go there and people no we're not just you know you know you're not having your phone out or no how to shush you know or any of that right everybody gets it everybody gets it.
You pay respect The music has an experience in itself that has a value as the experience.
And it's a perfect cauldron of social shame if you diverge from it.
So I got this because it's a banger.
But also because I just, I actually want to specifically go back to this because this is a 2009, right?
So we're coming to the end of the Blair era and everything.
So, yeah, if we could just play two minutes of that, because more for the visuals and the song, which everyone knows, but I really want to get this across.
Thank you.
Thank you.
A rose from out the earth you made me.
A rose, a rose from out the earth you made me.
The road you'll know be as your face This was the charter The charter of the land And guardian angels Come this rain Through Britannia Britannia who waits They just never, never shall we say
We can leave it there I happen, I'm not sure I happen to notice something about the crowd.
Do tell.
They're all English.
They're curious, that.
It puts you in good spirits, though, doesn't it?
Yeah, it did, back in 2009, and when we had, you know, actual displays of Englishness.
It's curious how the crowd isn't very diverse.
I will note, though, you're absolutely right, it gets me in the mood to blast this on all of the boats.
Right.
Right.
As they're turned back.
I will actually counter you on one point, though, which is that you say how English it is, and it's a tragedy, obviously, but actually, you'll find that if you go to the proms today, that's not changed.
Oh, no, I know that!
Oh, right, yeah.
Do you want to know something funny?
It's the same with metal gigs as well, which is that, and a lot of rock and punk gigs, I went to see John Lydon, otherwise known as Johnny Rotten, play with Public Image on their last ever tour last year.
Oh, cool!
And there is no whiter environment you can be in in modern English than a punk or a metal gig because as much as people would like to deny it specific types of music appeal to specific types of people right that's just the way it is and there's nothing value judgment in that that's how it is but this is my point we should own this we should really own this and defend it because and honestly it's an open field because then no one else is interested in it
Same with the stately home.
I occasionally go around free parks.
I went to an owl and a butterfly enclosure local heritage site recently.
And me and my mistress were walking around going, curious lack of diversity here.
Well, there was something interesting that I've just been reminded of through this conversation is I saw a report that had been going from an American news report where there had been Um, it wasn't a Walmart, but it was a similar chain store in America, um, where they had been in- been being victimized by the local diversity, shall we say, and it'd been happening again and again and again.
And you know what they found had been the number one deterrent for the diversity coming and breaking into the shop and nicking things.
Oh, Beethoven!
Father's Day cards?
Maybe, but yes, you are right.
They started to play classical music for speakers.
They did this in the McDonald's in Wales.
They played Beethoven in the McDonald's and it kept all the people away that they didn't want around there.
Well yeah, it's music that fundamentally, generally only really applies, appeals to Europeans and East Asians.
Right.
Yeah, no, actually, that was something.
The East Asians really... I mean, you could see in the orchestra there, there were a few Chinese people playing the violin as well.
They like that kind of music.
Same thing with any time there's a royal pageantry event.
It's usually the British that will turn out en masse, and Asian tourists who really admire the royal family, and a few Americans.
They're basically English.
But I had my own classical experience when I was in secondary school for year 10 in our music class.
There was a school trip so that we could go see the Manchester Philharmonic and this would have been in maybe 2010.
And I decided, you know, I don't really listen to classical music.
It's not heavy enough for me because I was still wearing spiked wristbands because I was really cool at that time.
But I decided to go because why not?
It was an experience and it really was one of those moments I get there skeptical and I come out a true believer because it was a magical experience.
Not Harry like Danny DeVito.
I get it now.
Taking the music seriously, it was something that was serious business that spoke to a part of me that I hadn't really encountered yet.
It can open and expand your mind.
And that was my discovery as well.
But you're absolutely right, Conor, that the demographics of the proms have not changed.
But as you will see with this clip from last year's Night of the Proms, if I dare you to hit play, On it.
Just for, uh, five seconds.
Am I going to be upset by this?
Go on, Samson.
Um, yes.
Yes.
Yeah, okay, that would go.
Thanks.
So, a lot of EU flags in there.
Yeah, yeah, I thought that's what I was seeing.
Never mind the just sheer dissonance, right?
So I'm hearing Rule Britannia, which is a song founded by Thomas Arne in 1740 and came out of the reaction to the Barbary pirates going over to Cornwall and Devon and taking English people as slaves.
And so that's what it's referring to.
So before even the sort of imperialist slant comes in, it's actually about defiance against an external threat.
And yet these people are saying, waving their EU flags and saying, yeah, rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves.
And by the way, we want to tie you to a foreign power indissolubly.
It is really funny though that this is kind of the middle class bubble put into picture though, isn't it?
All of these people who go out of their way to enjoy striving higher class forms of music and environments like the Royal Albert Hall, Also support all of the policies that would destroy that and take it from them forever because they are too stupid and insulated to realize that there are consequences to their beliefs and actions.
They're also the let's think of the food people when it comes to immigration but exclusively shop at waitrose.
Yes.
But the other thing to mention with this as well is the fact that the people in there, of course, it is in London.
And London is, as I call in one of the later articles, London is the capital citadel of the Anglophobes, right?
That really is just where they all hang out.
And because, yes, it is a very middle-class friendship, that's what they do.
But yeah, I'll move on to this.
So the BBC must improve diversity as near-snow-white proms.
According to campaigners.
Yes, according to those.
People that don't go.
Campaigners with no vested interests in diversifying the proms.
Whatsoever.
If they actually tried this, this would turn into a modern audiences video game situation where we diversified it and no one bought it.
Why is this?
I thought you meant they were all like in FIFA where they're all 2D going... What, they put cardboard cuts out, black people in here?
Yeah, because after two years when the music goes to rubbish, no one will show up.
Well, I mean, if you're trying to attract the audiences, then you will have to change the music to do that.
And, again, this isn't the sort of music that appeals to an audience beyond Europe and Asia.
Because they don't apply colour swatches to who can buy the ticket, so if they're not already organically showing up... Not yet.
But I have to admit, right, I do admit, the guy's got a point.
I can appreciate the logical consistency.
...of a random fentanyl-addicted drug dealer dying in Minnesota and that logically concluding that we have to diversify British concert halls.
I get that.
That just obviously makes sense.
However, it still comes to...
I'm loving the delivery.
This is great.
You've got a great deadpan.
However, the fact of the matter is that it still comes... they're not buying the tickets, right?
They can diversify and diversify, but the fact of the matter is, as you're saying, because they don't see their roots in it, right?
It doesn't matter how many Diverse people they put in the orchestras.
They just don't feel it's their music.
Again, another analogy.
It doesn't matter how fat, black, and gay you make the comic book characters, fat, black, gay people don't buy the comic books.
And neither will I, if you keep- Yeah, neither will I!
Yeah, we can go to the next one.
Yeah, oh it's fine, I won't scroll down on it, but there's a point in that where it just sort of says that they're also striving for equity in a 50-50 split of male to female composers as well, which is of course absurd because it's mostly men who want to become Musical composers.
Well, the same with... So... This is something that's happened in metal as well.
Where are all of the women playing metal?
Listen, there is about maybe 10% of metal bands with female vocalists and other musicians.
That's all you're gonna get.
And those ones that do it are generally very good at it.
So just...
Leave it alone!
The same thing happens.
I was having a chat to my dad, because he just said, I'm not going to donate to charities anymore, because they've all got some sort of charter.
And so we went through the most innocuous charities you'd expect.
And I usually do, because I'm a nerd in this way, the annual RSPB bird watch, because I like birds.
I went on their web page.
That's a very wholesome comment.
Yeah, that's very sweet.
I have a soft side.
When I went on their website, they have a diversity, equity and inclusion coordinator page.
Like, they go, we are striving for equity in bird watching.
Okay, one, it's only done by autistic men.
Two, you're a bird charity, why are you talking about black people?
But it's everywhere.
It's just constantly everywhere.
Everywhere the English are trying to be English.
Maybe they're like, hey, you've heard one chirp.
Now try out a few others.
Ceiling bird watching.
The problem is, Harry, they won't be able to do it because they just don't hear it.
Anyway, we'll move on.
Yeah, go on then.
Right, so this was actually something.
So after this is going back, actually, to 2020, because you'll remember when COVID started, that the BBC decided that they'd use that as an excuse to sort of try and slide Royal Britannia out the back door.
And this is something that's been happening for a long time, and it actually comes back to Carl's point about, you know, his speech at the Witton about anti-meta-vov versus meta-thor, right?
It's like, oh, why can't we get rid of it?
It's just a song.
You know why we can't get rid of it, and you know why we love it.
And the fact of the matter is that generations upon generations of Brits have sung this song boisterously in the face of the Barbary pirates, in the face of Napoleon, in the face of, you know, the two world wars, and now in the face of whinging EU, you know... Middle class midwits.
Yeah, exactly.
And so, yeah, the Remainers are actually making it more relevant than it's been in quite a few decades, to be honest, so God bless them.
But I have a- yeah, next one please.
Okay, cheers.
I have a particular animus.
towards this guy.
So this guy...
Patriotic song makes people feel uncomfortable.
No, you were right the first time.
Yeah, yeah.
Makes you feel uncomfortable.
And good on you for being a sellist, as long as you're good.
Who cares?
The music isn't only meant to appeal to you.
Right.
But the thing is as well, right, I'm not- Narcissism.
I'm not just picking the random opinion of some, you know, as you say, there's a celloist at Prince Harry's wedding, right, which is worse than the opinion, to be honest with you, but nonetheless- Feels like a Meghan decision.
Yeah, Prince Philip was just there cringing in the background.
God bless him.
But the thing is as well with this, that he is the absolute darling of the classical music scene that has been taken over by the progressives, right, and who want to use classical music as a vehicle to, as always, Promote their own agendas, right.
So he's always in interviews, he always gets put everywhere, he's always on stage, he's always got something going on.
Like that bloody George the Poet that they always wheel out every New Year's celebration.
Exactly.
Which is the art of poetry.
Yes, exactly that, exactly that.
So we'll go along another one.
This is my second article that I actually wrote in reaction To what happened in the prior video from Isabelle Oakeshott's Twitter account, where I just sort of went through it and I was saying that, look, at the end of the day, they're doing this to demoralize us, obviously.
That's all it's about.
It's about demoralization.
And towards the end of the article, at the time, Peter Whittle from the New Culture Forum... Good lad.
Yeah, he is a good lad.
And I say as much in the article, but he was sort of saying that the proms is best avoided, right?
It's like, no, actually, I don't think we should give up the territory.
I agree.
I don't think we should give up the territory.
We're just going to let them have it that easy, right?
It's like, no, it's literally our turf.
We're the ones with the genuine passion for it.
We're the ones who are just trying to wave the union flag as has traditionally been done for over a century now.
We're not just going to give that up.
And so, but I regret to announce that far from my sort of calls to reinvigorate the cause, if we go to the final one, the BBC have beat me to it, unfortunately.
Because last night, the Promise ticket holders are told protest flags will be removed so the union jack and saint george's cross of course of course but obviously what scottish flag question mark um probably not the thing is as well right you have to talk the last last night at the proms back in 2023 happened a month before the uh israel uh palestine i was gonna say it's all gonna be palestine flags
So I don't, I'm still pretty sure that we're going to see a sea of blue EU flags, but it's very, I just think it's a great tragedy that it's come to this point where it should be a place, this just great coliseum of national patriotism, but obviously to them, more than COVID, patriotism is the real virus that they wish to eradicate.
And frankly, we can't allow it.
And so I will just sort of say to those listening that no matter whether you attend the proms or don't attend the proms, because I can totally respect, even if it is £7.50, that you just wouldn't want to give the BBC a quid, which I totally respect as a valid opinion.
I would just say to you that on your own terms then it's something worth looking into buy some vinyls buy some you know go to another one there are so many wonderful sort of town um orchestras right all up and down the country you can support your local orchestras furthermore uh on the sort of Point that I was trying to make with my tweet that we referred to at the beginning of this.
Take involvement in all of your local culture as well.
In parts of the country they've got really quaint funny things like pie rolling contests where you go to a hill and people of the local community bake pies and whoever gets theirs down the hill first wins.
There's lots of local battle reenactments because of course Britain is a country filled with battleground sites where every single inch of this country has so much history in it.
Go and attend those, maybe even take part in them yourself.
There's so much that you can still do to really get hold of and keep a hold of your local culture.
Yeah, for sure.
So yeah, that's my sort of overall thoughts on it.
Excellent.
Right, have we got any video comments today, Samson?
None due to technical difficulties.
Rumble Rants.
We do have Rumble Rants.
There's gremlins in the wires.
Sorry, everyone.
So, Rumble Rants.
Scott comes back for $2 with a geography announcement.
Come on, lads.
Limassol isn't the capital of Cyprus.
Nicosia is.
But you got an extra $2, so maybe you're the one outsmarting me.
Aha!
Yeah, it was totally on purpose.
Yes.
FONK.
That's P-H-O-N-K.
Growing type of music for teens and young adults usually of more bass listeners.
I have never heard of FONK.
It sounds like clown music.
Honestly, yeah.
It sounds like it should be clown music, but I might check it out.
It's not going to be some weird Eastern European techno dance music.
No, no, no.
I'm more talking about the kind of stuff that is a constant migraine bass drop for three minutes at the loudest possible volume.
It's nothing like that, is it?
Because if so, Rory's probably already shown it to you.
That's probably true.
The Last Russian.
I am a huge lover of classical music.
Okay, classical music being funded by the Russians.
First they stopped playing the 1812 Overture at the Royal Albert Hall because ma-Russia war, and now this.
It truly breaks my heart.
Look it up, it's truly great.
Oh wait, is funk some kind of neon synthwave style music?
Because all of these bands that I'm looking at right now, they've got big 80s style neon aesthetics and there's bands called things like, what was it, Aggressive Drift Funk, Neon Blade, Murder In My Mind by Chord Hell.
Oh, wait, wait, no.
Wikipedia.
Subgenre of hip-hop and trap music.
Not interested.
Okay, yeah, sorry.
No, definitely not interested.
No, I'm good.
Like, my music tastes notoriously terrible, and even I think that's dreadful.
I would actually just say on that what he's talking about there with the loss of the Russian overture.
Yeah, that is one thing that I neglected to mention as well.
Just keep up the bloody pressure on keeping Royal Britannia in.
Because it's that thing.
We can save it year after year, but we only have to lose it once.
And they will never put it back until we win.
But nonetheless... Right, right.
Samson, do you mind scrolling down slightly on my screen, please?
Thank you.
Comments!
Rue the day!
Someone tell Rory his passion for graphic design is very good.
Oh yeah, we need to get him a mug with that on.
Graphic design is my passion.
Yeah.
Rue also says, Luca's cool and his contributions are always interesting.
Do you come again?
Yes, sir.
I like your articles very much.
Thanks.
That Texas gal, Luca should be a weekly host.
Well, he lives far away from Swindon because he's intelligent that way.
So it's only when he's in the area.
From my segment, Scott Boyd, those pesky men.
Yes.
Obviously, we can't give any further details about those men.
Warlord Wutai.
What exactly would the coroner consider a systemic failure if the system not- if the system allowing violent Afghans refusing to investigate despite repeated warning signs and then failing to prevent him committing a murder not a systemic failure?
The victim wasn't black.
There you go!
Captain Charlie the Beagle.
Yes, there's been another terror attack in Germany by a Muslim.
But haven't you heard?
Vishaf and Das.
And people wonder why the AFD are doing so well.
See my segment on Wednesday.
Omar Awad.
Imported murderers and rapists are like forever homeless.
Giving them resources won't help them off the streets and turn them into model citizens because they like it.
Likewise, invaders only accept freebies because there's no requirements to change.
Well, quite, but that's a sensible opinion held by someone who doesn't believe.
In the false anthropology of fundamental human sameness.
Because we're all equal underneath.
I guess.
Calm Rob!
Final one for me.
When I was in primary school around 12, we had an Afghan who was about 30 years old during my year.
During the start of the Middle Eastern Wars.
The parents were in uproar, and yet the school maintained he was 12 years old.
Absolute madness looking back on it.
Also, when in high school, there were various students in my year who admitted they were over 18 from Iraq and Afghanistan.
If you have any actual details about that being published, that'd be very interesting to hear about.
As a teacher at a school like that, you've got to know the absurdity of what you're trying to tell the children.
At which point I have to ask, how do you sleep at night?
Because you are putting those children in danger.
Lots of them are crippling university-miseducated midwits, and also many of them are cowardly because they've got the board of governors who are institutionally captured and have the sort of gun barrel of local council towards their head telling them what to do.
Still disgusting and immoral.
I'm not disagreeing with it.
Yep.
Sven Mills for my segment says just bought the forest path t-shirt from behind a VPN so foreign money scandal will be coming your way.
Damn you!
Damn you!
I don't think he has an unhinged take on Ukraine.
I think he shouts sometimes a little bit for effect, which I don't necessarily do, but Tim's very well researched in the Ukraine war, and I would consider Tim a friend, so I don't think that's necessary.
Yeah, I will say, if he swallowed that recent story about the Nord Stream pipeline being entirely coordinated purely by a few drunk Ukrainians... No, he didn't.
Okay, good.
Because if he'd swallowed that one immediately, then I'd be questioning... He's always said the US government's been involved.
oh yeah obviously um roman observer subscriber from southern europe bribing the le staff with 8 euro 67 cent each month vat and fees included well thank you very much we'll see you in the court case omar awad this applies to the first segment as well but it feels like there's a language barrier between native english and tyrant english everything they say is duplicitous and the definitions rarely apply to the words that they use in any meaningful way
but if you're fluent in establishment media, you can learn more from what they don't say than what This is something I've learned to do, and I think we've all learned to do, which is read past what is being said explicitly and understanding the implicit of what is being said.
Same with when you read, say, mainstream history or textbooks or philosophy.
You can kind of read past what is being said and figure out what is actually going on.
It's a skill that you need to develop, but it's not actually that hard once you have.
I do the same thing of where basically I look for the blank slate in every single press release a government puts out and you just find it everywhere.
Oh, every single time.
I'm gonna do an episode basically on this of my show breaking down the ideology of the state shortly soon which should hopefully be helpful.
Yeah, and Bleach Demon says this Tenet media scandal is a reflection of the US government's desire to form its own Ofcom information suppression system, but that pesky First Amendment keeps getting in the way.
Always amuses me that while evil Ruski interference is the absolute destruction of our democracy, meanwhile the US State Department ties to the colour revolutions of the Arab String and Maiden is okie dokie.
Well yeah, of course, the State Department, the CIA, they can get away with literally anything.
The CIA is basically a black hole of accountability in the U.S.
and, as a result, geopolitics.
So, good luck trying to hold them responsible or accountable for anything.
I'll also point out there is one rumble rant come through from Keith Kaiser again for another two dollars.
Thank you very much, sir.
Saying, regardless of my bad music tastes, I also really love heavy metal and rock.
Thank you for Separating them out for bad music taste.
Have you seen In Flames?
I do like In Flames.
I have not seen them live.
I want to, because ever since Sounds of a Playground fading, that was their last good album, and then they released a whole load of stinkers up until the most recent one that they put out, which was actually okay.
Chris Broderick is not being used as he should be in that band.
This is complete gibberish to these two, but Yeah, Samson gets me.
Samson understands.
You understand too, Keith.
But it's a step in the right direction.
I would like to see them go back in a more Clayman direction again, but we always have those early albums.
I will see them live eventually.
Through the Fire and the Flames is a Dragonforce song.
It has nothing to do with In Flames, although they were both featured on- Samson, don't encourage him.
What is going on?
Have you not heard Through the Fire and the Flames?
Oh, I haven't.
Have you actually not?
Did you never play Guitar Hero 3?
I didn't play Guitar Hero 1.
Or 2?
Or World Tour?
Or 5?
There was a difference?
Not really.
There were different songs on each of them, but not really, no.
Someone else had a Wii and I think I played it once, that's it.
Do you want to go see your ones?
Oh, sure.
Oh, man.
Might want to read it into the microphone.
Oh, yeah.
So California Refugee says, Oh, man, I just woke up in time.
That's such a Californian thing to do.
Feluka and his segment.
His article on the site about The Hobbit is an excellent one, a favourite of mine.
Oh, yeah, thank you.
I really enjoyed writing that one.
It was one of my favourites to write, too.
Thank you.
Average Ceiling Bird Watch.
Says, uh...
I swear, in my road right now, there is a Ceiling Bird echoing down the road now.
I don't know if it's because somebody, like, because there's a few unoccupied houses, if some builder or something has left uncharged batteries in it, or if this means that my neighborhood is diversified and this is the way I'm finding out.
Did you hear- Because I get home, get out of the car, step outside and there's a I'm like that Spongebob meme of him as a grug.
I thought you were the Skyrim NPC.
It's like, what's that?
Must have been the wind.
The one that made me laugh.
If anyone hasn't listened to it, there was a recent X Spaces debate between Steve Laws and Lawrence Fox.
Oh, there was a chirp.
And Carl texted in to say, who's got that chirp in the background?
Wasn't it Lawrence?
We don't know.
But I don't think it was Steve.
No, I don't think it was.
God bless Lawrence.
Average ceiling builder says, uh, the problem's from a Yank perspective.
It's perhaps one of the greatest expressions of British identity.
It's a beautiful thing to see.
Never give an inch or centimetre.
If you must use French units, we must not.
Michael Drabelis.
Thank you.
To Belbis.
To Belbis.
Harry geeking out on metal.
Glorious metal does sing to the Western man's soul.
Yeah, as a recent Blind Guardian convert, I'm getting there.
I'm getting there.
Yes, good man.
Furious Dan says, I'm not even British, but that Royal Britannia gave me chills.
Based.
Sophie Lives says, actually when it comes to songwriting and composing in current time, men and women are split pretty evenly.
I do speak from experience, though those who get really technical and make the best, most advanced compositions, yeah, they are mostly men.
I do like, we love Sophie Liv, I like how men made general statement, women go, but from my personal experience, here's an exception.
This is true.
I haven't seen what she's talking about myself, and I will agree with the end of your statement and say, yeah, Frank Zappa's compositions could not have been written by a woman.
Sorry, and do either of you know who that is?
I know who Frank Zappa is.
Oh, okay, good.
That's honestly shocking.
I know a bit of music history, it's just not necessarily much.
That's so shocking to me.
Fuck you.
Treat it like a 12A.
You get one F word.
Make sure it counts.
I'm basically a walking version of X-Men Apocalypse.
Anyway, we will be back in about half an hour for Lads Hour discussing Hot Fuzz.
Thank you very much, Luca, for joining us today.
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