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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #994

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 5th of September and I'm joined by Harry and also Calvin Robinson for your final podcast appearance before you move to America.
	The last one before I flee.
	Yes I am moving to West Michigan in America and I'm gonna go and join the horde of people still fighting for freedom out there.
	But you're still gonna be doing your show?
	Still have my Common Sense Crusade 3 p.m.
	every Thursday only on LotusEaters.com You just won't be able to be persecuted by the British state.
	And or stabbed by a wild Mohammedan.
	Exactly.
	I'm kind of jealous to be honest.
	I think I'll be freer to say what I need to say.
	I'll have my first and second amendment to back me up.
	Exactly.
	And anything that you say on the website, only we can be prosecuted for.
	That's true.
	That's quite handy actually.
	So he hadn't thought that far ahead yet, had he?
	No!
	So if you take a sudden dislike to us, you can really throw us under the bus.
	Twist the knife.
	I would never.
	Also, we've got a fly in the office again, in the studio, so if we at any point look like we're trying to grab at demonic spirits, while there are some around, it's a fly.
	It's mainly a fly.
	Josh, do not shock your nose.
	I am going to miss this though, coming into the studio with you crazy people.
	There's something mad going on around here.
	We try to be sensible.
	We try to be calm.
	We just can't.
	They appear calm on camera.
	They're not calm at all in real life.
	We're actually crazy.
	That is true.
	But today we are talking about Winston Churchill and his legacy.
	Ledge.
	I have some personal gripes.
	And I'm going to talk about Europe needing to stand up for itself.
	And Harry is going to scar you all.
	Yes.
	Apologies in advance, by the way.
	It's quite messed up.
	Also, Josh said that yesterday, I think, or Tuesday, you thanked someone.
	I've only just got in the office, so to the person who sent in Amazon gift cards for us, thank you very much.
	It was very, very kind of you.
	We really appreciate it.
	Yeah, thank you again.
	I thanked you on Monday.
	You're getting double thanks.
	Was it Monday?
	It was, yeah.
	But anyway, take it away.
	Okay, before I do, the Islander merch is going out of stock very, very soon, so if you'd like any, head over to shop.lotuseaters.com, and on that note, my Common Sense Crusade pipe, it really is limited edition.
	I posted it out myself, and I'm leaving the country this weekend, so if you want one, you've got to get one by tomorrow, which is the last time I go to the post office.
	And I understand there's less than a handful remaining on the site, so you might not even have an opportunity, but if you do, go ahead and check it out now, shop.lotuseaters.com.
	Now Churchill, Winston Churchill, is clearly the greatest British hero of all time.
	I want to get into why.
	He is the British Bulldog.
	His name is all over social media this week for reasons pertaining to Tucker Carlson, who had an interview that a lot of people disliked, but I think his interviews are important because he kind of, he'll interview anybody.
	That's how journalism used to be.
	You don't have to agree with the people you're interviewing.
	Yes, he does just sit there and nod through quite a lot of it, but I'm not here to critique his interviewing style.
	I think it's important that we're able to have a conversation, otherwise we enter the realm of censorship and mainstream media.
	So his independent journalism is great.
	However, someone he interviewed recently...
	Stepped on the path of maybe Hitler was misunderstood.
	Maybe we didn't win World War II and maybe Churchill was the bad guy all along.
	Some people would say that's quite a dangerous path to go down.
	I think it's a mistaken path to go down because when we destroy our heroes, what do we have left but the villains?
	And so I'd like to go into why Winston Churchill is an imperfect and fraud national hero, if not a global hero.
	If I can add something to begin with, I have not watched the full interview.
	The interview that Tucker Carlson conducted was with a historian called Daryl Cooper, I believe his surname is, who goes under the handle of Martyr Made.
	He has a podcast which is very popular where he speaks about history.
	For instance, he's spoken at length about the Israel-Palestine conflict.
	I think that's his most popular series.
	It's something ridiculous like a 26-hour long history, so it's almost like a novel length if you were to listen to an audiobook.
	Um, the clips that I have seen of it, it does not appear that Daryl is trying to lean into Hitler-Apologia, especially regarding the Eastern Front, which I've seen a lot of people acting as though he was saying that nothing bad ever happened over there.
	The clips that I have seen seem to have been Daryl saying that most of, a lot of the hardships that went on over there, a lot of the suffering that went on, was as a result of a lack of forward planning
	and resources allocated to that area of the European conflict and he has not been saying that that immediately means there is no culpability to Hitler or any of the other German command and people have had this reaction which I think has been absolutely hysterical of trying to point to him and say that he was apologizing for the holocaust that he was saying Hitler never did anything wrong whereas for me it seems that he's just trying to portray a slightly more
	I wouldn't even say nuanced, I would say full historical take of the Second World War.
	Now when it comes to things like saying that Churchill was an outright villain, he I believe has said that that's basically just hyperbole on his own side.
	Because to get such takes listened to in the first place and probably to be able to speak to somebody like Tucker Carlson, you do need to engage in a bit of the old rhetoric so that you can have your voice amplified And heard.
	But I do think that the reaction from many conservatives in the centre-right has been massively overblown and very disingenuous in how it's been portraying what Darrell was saying.
	Darrell was not trying to say to Tucker, listen, Hitler was the good guy.
	That is not what he was saying at all.
	The conversation isn't the conversation.
	The conversation that started on Tucker has evolved into something else, which it always does.
	The centre-right has reacted to it in a way that I'm probably going to do and say, no, he was clearly a hero.
	And I think the far right have reacted in a way that they're saying, well, Churchill lost us Europe and he was the downfall of what we know and love.
	So I think... I was going to say that.
	Really?
	I don't think it's quite so simple as either of those, because I think that since the Second World War, especially since the time of large Hollywood films, it has been turned into a Disney Marvel cartoon narrative.
	That people are really afraid to try to even look into it because this is not something... I wouldn't agree with that.
	I would say since Brexit we've had doubling down on Churchill.
	The true Churchill and how he was actually a racist and how he actually killed a million Indians.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	Of course there's all of that.
	I think it's flipped around.
	I do think that people ignore that the conflict happened within a broader geopolitical context, where it wasn't just as simple as Hitler was a bad guy who wanted to kill Jews and we went into Europe to save all of them.
	There was a lot of behind-the-scenes political maneuvering going on, particularly, and I think that this is one of For me, one of Churchill's big mistakes, particularly with FDR, whose cabinet, whose administration was full of communist infiltrators who are working behind the scenes for the Soviet Union, who were able to deftly maneuver the situation to be able to leave at the end of World War II.
	half of Europe, the Eastern Front, under Stalin's Soviet Union.
	So I think there is a discussion to be had there that I think is most often papered over, especially the fact, again, that there was a lot of communist infiltration into FDR, and FDR, when he entered the war after Pearl Harbor, really seems to have taken command of most of the effort on the Western Front.
	To clarify what I said, I think that all of Europe lost in World War II No one really won from what happened.
	Well, Stalin won.
	Not in the end.
	Well, not in the end, but for his own lifetime.
	America certainly did.
	America was the only country that really came out of it successful.
	Which raises the question, did we really win?
	Of course, the answer is no, but that doesn't mean that the Nazis won, or that we should have lost to the Nazis.
	Yeah, well, my position is that most of the leaders involved, FDR, Churchill and Adolf, were all bad people.
	But we're cutting you off before you've got to... No, it's fine.
	There's going to be some nuance to that.
	I do not believe Churchill was a bad person.
	I do think categorically Hitler was a bad person.
	I do think there is a bit of, there is nuance in between, but there's also on the extremities.
	And I think Hitler was on the extremity of that.
	But let's start with Churchill's background.
	So before World War II, obviously before World War I, there was the Boer War.
	and he was a kind of a military reporter he was out there writing about events but he got caught up in it and he got caught in a prison of war camp and he escaped through the swamps through the mines through the trenches and kind of got out so he had before he'd even fought in a war he'd had that kind of wartime experience that most people today would not have any kind of relation to we wouldn't be able to relate to that kind of trauma And so he was shaped by it before it began.
	So when World War I came up, he could have chosen to go, actually, I'm going to find a way out of this.
	But straight away, he's like, I want to jump in.
	And he was in the inventory.
	He was on the front lines, in the trenches, in World War I, in the hardships and dangers amongst everyone else.
	Bear in mind, this is someone who was born in Blenheim Castle.
	This is a palace.
	This is someone who is part of the establishment, part of the elite, did not have to contribute in the way that he did, but chose to.
	I wasn't aware of this.
	I thought he was just the First Lord of the Admiralty at the time.
	In World War I?
	In the First World War, yes.
	No, he went to the front lines.
	Yeah, he went to the Western Front.
	Oh, in what capacity?
	Was he a soldier?
	He was... I believe he was infantryman, wasn't he?
	Again, I thought he was already part of the cabinet government and was First Lord of the Admiralty.
	He did fight his way up in the 20s, but I think prior to that he was out there himself.
	Well, I certainly respect him getting stuck in Was it?
	Yes, because by the time of the First World War he was already First Lord of the Admiralty, and one of the things that led to Germany's ultimate defeat was that there was a starvation blockade across the North Sea preventing them from getting food and rations, and that was initiated, I think either in 1914 or 1915, by Churchill.
	Right, I might be crossing my lines there so I'll accept that correction.
	So let's start off with BBC's perspective on who Churchill was because if you want a neutral perspective you head to the BBC, don't you?
	Why was Churchill important?
	So before World War II started in 1939, Hitler was one of the few people warning, sorry, Churchill was one of the few people warning about Hitler and the rise of the Nazis in Germany.
	Why is this important?
	Well, because most of our establishment, most of our politicians at the time were talking of peace, peace, peace, and the language of appeasement.
	The controversial side of this argument from the BBC is that Churchill believed that some races and some countries were naturally superior to others.
	This is today seen as anathema.
	But up until very recently, it was kind of seen as common sense.
	But it's a conversation you're no longer allowed to have.
	Is it possible that some countries are superior to others?
	Is it possible that some races are superior to others?
	In what regard?
	In what aspect?
	Well, I would say Kenyans are probably better at running than, say, for example, the Chinese.
	The Chinese are less smelly because they don't have that body odour instinct that the Indians have.
	There are different elements to different races that we are distinctive.
	But again, it's post-World War II and post-eugenics.
	It's a conversation we're no longer allowed to have for good reason.
	Do you want to zap that?
	There's the fly.
	We found it.
	There's the fly.
	It's right there.
	It's right above Calvin.
	Come on!
	We're so close!
	Feeble!
	I was quick as I could be!
	What you're saying there though, to carry on that point that you're making, well this was during the time of Empire and in the 1930s prior to the dissolution of it, this was very close to the height of Empire in terms of the actual sheer amount of land that we were in control of, the nations that we were in control of.
	So I think if you're living in that situation, Especially if you're a member of the government or certainly a member of the media as he was during his wilderness years when he was a journalist.
	It's perfectly understandable for you to go, well, listen, we've colonized more of the world than anybody else has ever been able to.
	We control most of the world and we do a damn fine job at doing it.
	So I think it's understandable why in that situation you would go, yeah, maybe we're better than most other people, at least at doing this.
	Which links into what he said in 1937 when he said he admits, for instance, that a great wrong was done to the red Indians of America and the black people of Australia, but he doesn't admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race, a more worldly wise race, to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.
	Which actually speaks of the very popular meme that goes around that says, you know, we should not apologize for being stronger or we shouldn't apologize for you guys being So you were conquered by another empire?
	Well if the roles were reversed we wouldn't be getting an apology, would we?
	And also these days you don't learn about what it was that we came across, especially when we got to somewhere like Australia where the aboriginals, the way it's sensitive to modern ideas of how you should treat women, the aboriginals when we first got there We were shocked by the way that they treated their women, for instance.
	They couldn't find a single woman of any of the aboriginal tribes who wasn't absolutely covered in scars because their husbands or the men of the tribes were absolutely brutalizing them with the primitive axes that they had because they would just... any infraction from the women, they would beat them, they would stab them.
	Awful, awful things.
	So yes, we get to a very, very primitive society like that, where they've not developed technology beyond maybe a Stone Age capacity.
	And we get there, we say, no you don't do that, we're going to put civilization on this land.
	Of course I think we have every right to say that we improved Australia with our presence.
	Yes, and that's on a global scale.
	He was very against Indian self-rule as well, and history has proven him right in that when the British were invited into India, India was a successful country, a successful part of the empire.
	And now look at India post-Britain.
	It's dire.
	It's an absolute mess.
	And I think if you ask most Indian people today, I think they'd probably have preferred to remain under British rule.
	A great example is South Africa as well.
	Sparks the first war that he was involved in.
	That fight there.
	But the British Empire spread more good, including civilization around the world.
	And it's another conversation that people aren't able to have today without painting people like Churchill as villains for wanting to spread charity, hospitals, schools, the Christian faith, the English language, roads, infrastructure, as well as just civility and etiquette and good manners.
	So I think overall that was a good argument that he was making but perhaps not in language that we'd make in today but that goes with the change of the times.
	Now moving over to the British government's perspective of Churchill which I find interesting that they actually have one up.
	Yeah I didn't know this existed to be fair.
	So their argument is that Gallipoli was a mistake and he acknowledges that it was a mistake but he learned from that mistake and because he was heavily criticized for the error of that campaign he resigned from his position in government which is quite a rarity these days but something that people used to do and therefore traveled to the Western Front himself and I think oh there we go this kind of nobility It's something that I would love to see in our politicians today.
	If you make a mistake, look, Tony Blair.
	The Iraq War.
	Send him to Iraq.
	Go to the front line yourselves, mate, if you and your henchmen think it's a good idea.
	But of course they wouldn't even resign, never mind go to the Western Front.
	I'd like to see modern politicians resign and go to fight in Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	They're willing to send all of our weapons over there.
	Boris Johnson, get over to the Ukraine.
	Yeah, what are you doing, Boris?
	Get in the trenches.
	I've seen him with his body armour on in the Ukraine, but I haven't seen him on the front lines.
	And so, British policy during World War II was to try everything, but to try it on a scale where... I'm so sorry, it's so distracting!
	It's going away again, I think it's flying above our lights.
	Apologies, everybody.
	World War II, we tried everything, but on a scale where we were able to fail.
	And I think that's a sign of great leadership in that, look at the campaigns, like the SOE that failed, Special Operations Executive.
	So Set Europa Blaze wasn't very successful, but Bletchley Park was massively successful.
	So he had these little kind of units, and he said, give that a go, give that a go, whatever works, we doubled down on.
	We didn't put all our eggs in one basket.
	Exactly.
	But what didn't work, he was able to say, no, that's a failure.
	And I think again, many modern politicians will say, well, they would double down on their own initiatives, whether they failed or not.
	And so that's, that's a sign of a change in the style of politics that we've got today.
	My mouse is broken by the way.
	So says mine.
	Churchill became synonymous with successful campaigns like Dunkirk, like the battle of Britain.
	This is just chaos today.
	And the blitz spirit.
	Just ignore it, pretend it's not there.
	Just imagine we're in India.
	His warnings against the appeasement of Nazi Germany were proven correct when the Second World War, of course, broke out.
	But he was warning about this, obviously in 1939, before the war broke out.
	So in 1940 he gets voted in because he's one of the few people that says, this is wrong, Hitler's wrong, this is bad.
	And Chamberlain and everyone else is like, well, let's settle, let's settle.
	Oh, thank you, great work.
	I've got it.
	It should be working.
	- There we go, I've got it.
	It should be working. - Excellent.
	There we go.
	So of course he was one of the greatest orators we've ever had, not just statesman.
	So statesman in terms of getting things done, making the country work, he managed to get the civil service to be efficient, which again is something I think we're lacking from modern politicians.
	He had this sense of Urgency.
	Telephone switchboards quadrupled their efficiency.
	The chief of staff and the joint planning staff were in almost constant sessions.
	Like, he managed to change what didn't work under Chamberlain, where everyone just thought, you know, wartime's the same as peacetime, and managed to make an attitude that I think only Boris Johnson could accomplish in modern terms of getting everyone to realize that there is a national state of emergency.
	And so, he did not permit an attitude of defeatism.
	Nor would he entertain talk of reasonable terms with Adolf Hitler.
	But his famous speech, or one of his most famous speeches, in 1940 was, We shall go to the end.
	We shall fight in France.
	We shall fight on the seas and the oceans.
	We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air.
	We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
	We shall fight on beaches.
	We shall fight on the landing grounds.
	We shall fight in the fields and in the streets.
	We shall fight in the hills.
	We shall never surrender.
	Going back to an age of Britain never ever shall be slaves.
	Going back to Royal Britannia.
	Going back to people actually believing in patriotism.
	We shall defend our island.
	That one part of that sentence I would love to see any of our politicians saying publicly these days when we're being invaded every single day.
	Did you guys cover Callum Smiles by the way?
	Oh, him stopping the migrant boat.
	No, we haven't actually.
	I was waiting until there were some more examples and I was going to put it into one big segment.
	Not to go off on a tangent, but I just think it's fantastic that he's gone out there in France and pointed out the smugglers and said, look, stop them.
	And the police have actually managed to stop them.
	I think it shows that if there is the will to do it, it can be done.
	And our politicians clearly don't have the political will.
	And we've frozen again, by the way, Samson, sorry about this.
	I have a fiddle with the thing here.
	Thank you.
	I will say, I do think that Chamberlain is somewhat unfairly maligned for the Munich decision.
	Would you like some context regarding that?
	There's an excellent, wonderful compilation of essays edited by a man called Harry Elmer Barnes called Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace, which looks more at the American side of the foreign policy during FDR's time.
	And in that is an essay by Frederick R. Sanborn called Roosevelt is Frustrated in Europe, which discusses how around the time of the Munich conference, around late September 1938 leading up to the Munich conference and the Czechoslovakia crisis as it was going on, in fact
	Britain and France had built up enough armaments, or at least had enough available to them at the time, that they were thinking about, in fact planning on, potentially attacking Germany over the Czechoslovakian crisis.
	And Germany itself, the public were devoid of enthusiasm for any sort of conflict that was likely to spring up because of all of this.
	And the general staff as well, all of Hitler's generals, were not happy with it, and were in fact planning a putsch against Hitler.
	at the time and it was the intervention of Franklin Roosevelt coming to the Allies side and saying well we can work all of this out we can get a peace deal with them that led to them actually coming to the table.
	Now we know from a lot of reports and private communications and letters that we have access to now that Roosevelt even by the late 1930s was basically itching to enter into a European He made the promise when he was doing his 1940 campaign to his re-election that he wouldn't involve himself in any conflict that happened in Europe, but he was actually planning behind the scenes on doing so.
	Anyway, and it seems from the reports that I've read and these essays in the history that I've read that Roosevelt was essentially trying to maneuver a better situation later on so that America would be better prepared to enter into a war, because by 1938 they were beginning to try to get armaments ready, but they weren't quite prepared in the same way that they were by, say, 1941.
	Because Roosevelt, through Lend-Lease, for instance, really put Britain under his own thumb.
	And if you read Stalin's War by Sean McMeekin, which is a remarkable book, which is shockingly available in places like Waterstones, it's published by Penguin, it seems very, very clear that Roosevelt had in his own aims a breaking up of British power.
	He saw America as a new and emerging empire.
	Seems to have worked.
	Yes, and thought that by maneuvering England and Britain into a situation where it couldn't defend itself and would have to rely on American aid as we did with Lend-Lease, that he would be able to extend American power across Europe.
	contend as well with, as I mentioned, there were communist infiltrators in his administration.
	When you look at how they treated Britain, where we had Lend-Lease, versus how they treated Russia after 1941 Operation Barbossa.
	We got Lend-Lease, they got unconditional aid.
	Anything that they wanted, with no obligation to pay it back.
	Which ended up, of course, blowing up in their face afterwards, because then you descend the Iron Curtain and the Cold War begins.
	So I just wanted to clear up some historical context.
	It's interesting to hear that FDR was working on that preparatory stuff because this is what I understand Churchill was doing as well before he got into office.
	He was, with his strategic foresight, he was kind of setting, thoroughly preparing for Britain's fleet for war and monitoring Germans' progress, their strength, their manoeuvres and figuring out a scheme, a plan, which I think is what both sides should have been doing.
	Well, I mean England and America should have been doing.
	So, as we've got a technical problem and we can't use the mouse anymore, I've not been able to fix it.
	It's alright.
	Okay, we can go ahead without any special things.
	So, as you were alluding to, that special relationship between the UK and the US was started in that period.
	It was certainly FDR, Massive Loop and also Churchill.
	Some like Carol Quigley would contend that it began earlier than that with Cecil Rhodes, but I've not actually read his work and I know it's quite controversial and contentious, so I'm not going to carry on with that.
	Sorry?
	Wasn't Cecil Rhodes in South Africa?
	Yes, but he was also involved with Milner's Kindergarten, Alfred Milner, who had ideas for basically an Anglo-American world system, but I can't really go into it.
	I mean, I'm sure many people had the idea, but I think between that period, Churchill and FDL were certainly two of the biggest enhancers of that idea and fostered that relationship and of course the Iron Curtain speech really helped with that but I think it was that's probably an area that was seen as an advantage at the time but has turned out to be detrimental in that we we gave up a lot of what we had or military might or soft powers and America was encouraged and strengthened by
	Well, I think it ended up being much more beneficial to America than it did to us in the long term.
	I think as a nation, Britain lost more than anyone.
	Even Germany gained more out of World War II with the Americans investing a lot of money in... Well, America gained from Germany as well, given NASA Operation Paperclip.
	Yeah.
	So the point being that Churchill, of course, was not perfect.
	He was a flawed human being like the rest of us, and previous to this he was a eugenicist.
	I think many were at the time, but the whole point of, well, coming out of World War II was it changed that conversation for good.
	In the early 20th century there was a department of eugenics in the UK.
	And I don't think we could ever go back there now because of World War II, so it's a thankful consequence.
	But he was also the man whose failure to act during the Bengal famine in 1943 ended up in a million Indians dying.
	So, of course, you have some gripes with him yourself.
	I have a personal gripe, yeah.
	So my grandfather was on the HMS Repulse and in 1941, in December of 1941, I think it was
	Zero Squadron or something like that was sent out towards the sort of east to fight against the Japanese and off of the coast of Singapore on the 10th of December 1941 the HMS Repulse and the HMS Prince of Wales were set upon by the Japanese Air Force and Navy.
	And of course these were two boats, one I think was a destroyer.
	against a large section of Japanese military might.
	And Churchill's intention was to send, you know, basically a small squadron to set up a defense of the East and our assets in the East.
	And, you know, Singapore, of course, was under the control of Britain.
	It wasn't known as Singapore at the time.
	Yes, and it just wasn't a very good strategy.
	There was the sinking of the HMS Hood in, I think it was in the Straits of Denmark, which illustrated that these large ships can be sunk.
	And so there was precedent set that these sorts of things can happen no matter how good our ships are.
	And sending two of them out without any air support, and that's the key thing here, is that the Japanese planes were able to do bombing runs and things like that upon the ships, as well as there being naval attacks as well.
	And even though the Repulse was able to dodge 19 missiles before getting hit by four or five simultaneously, which you can't dodge, Yeah, it was obvious that no matter what happened to the people on those ships, they were doomed.
	And they were doomed because they were sent out there with insufficient support.
	It was stupid to think that The Japanese were just going to allow them to go about the ocean, because of course they had the might to sink them, and they did.
	And luckily my grandfather survived, but 500 of his other crewmen died.
	Also, because sinking was obviously a very brutal thing, he breathed in lots of engine oil which gave him health problems for the rest of his life.
	Not to mention the fact he never talked about it because he saw many people he knew well were his friends die and that happened because of Churchill.
	And there's no denying that it was his call because he was the one that pushed to do this.
	It was foolish, there were lessons already learnt from the war that could have been done differently and, you know, had things gone slightly different that day, my grandfather died, well obviously I wouldn't be here.
	So I came that close to not existing thanks to Winston Churchill.
	So I have my personal gripes with him.
	I think there are many other examples throughout the war where Churchill ordered something that was pig-headed and didn't have enough regard for the cost on the people that he was sending out to do so.
	I think anyone that's going to stick their head above the parapet to the point of leading a war campaign is going to make mistakes and it's unfortunate because lives are always at stake but it's part of being a leader isn't it?
	Part of being a politician.
	You've got to deal with those sorts of things but I think there's also a responsibility to be better than he was.
	Fair enough.
	I don't want to spend too much time on Hitler because this is a segment on Churchill but I just want to put a reminder out there that Hitler was not misunderstood.
	The reason we went into World War II was because there was an invasion of Poland.
	It wasn't the other way around.
	It seems to be online in certain far-right circles at the moment that people are suggesting that Hitler that Churchill caused World War II and because he was a warmonger but the reason we entered was because Poland had already been invaded with a formal declaration of war sorry before a formal declaration of war during the period of 1st of September to the 25th of October 1939.
	So during that occupation of Poland 16,000 Polish people were murdered and that's just in that first year there were another 20,000 I believe in the following year and of course thousands more after that but At the same time in 1939 Italy, another Axis power obviously, invaded Albania.
	Prior to that they'd already invaded the Horn of Africa and later Yugoslavia and Greece.
	So there were very little resistance to the Axis powers and I think Winston Churchill is one of the few that were bold enough to say no we as Britain can put a stop to this.
	And what began in Germany with the ghettos and the concentration camps did end with the final solution.
	And I think we've reached a point online now where we don't even all agree that the Holocaust happened, you know, the genocide of the European Jews and the Roman Egyptians when we have so many first-hand, well not so many first-hand anymore, but lots of second-hand witnesses of the atrocities and not to mention the Japanese war crimes and their attack on the US which ultimately dragged America into World War II as well.
	Just to say really that Churchill was in the right time at the right place, he was needed I think he probably went on to do a bit of a Joe Biden in his second term in 51 to 55.
	Probably shouldn't have been Prime Minister again.
	He was too old and frail and making too many mistakes by then.
	Should have probably retired when he got ousted in 45.
	But he still went on to be voted as Britain's greatest hero of all time in a BBC poll.
	And I found this lovely little anecdote to end on with one of the greatest actors of all time.
	Of course I was immensely.
	One of the greatest politicians of all time.
	Impressed with Churchill.
	But he was quite another thing, you know.
	He had great humor and great irony.
	He went to see me when I played Othello on the stage in London, and I heard a low murmuring in the front row.
	I thought he was talking to himself.
	Then he came backstage afterwards and sat down in the dressing room and said, Most potent grave and reverence in yours, my most approved good masters, and began the whole of Othello's part, which he had memorized, including the cuts which I had made, which he read with a good deal of extra emphasis.
	And then a few years afterwards, I happened to be in Venice trying to get some money for a movie.
	during the festival and poor Churchill had been right after the war at this you know crest of the greatest victory that any single man had ever presided over in modern history was voted out of office quite properly probably but it was a tragic blow for him and there he was in the hotel at the Lido with Clemmie his wife alone and he'd go swimming out on the beach One day at lunch, I came in with a Russian businessman.
	I was trying to hustle for some money for this picture.
	And as we passed Mr. Churchill's table, Mr. Churchill saw me and made that little gesture, and the Russian went out of his mind.
	This is a white Russian, not a red Russian.
	This is a, you know, a hustling semi-Armenian Russian.
	When he saw that Mr. Churchill not only knew me, but gave a rather special acknowledgement, it was clear to me that I had the money for my picture.
	So the next morning I was out swimming in the beach, and I found myself paddling in the water right next to Mr. Churchill.
	And I hadn't gone up to speak to him, but there we were in the water, and I had I'd known him on and off during the war, in a humble capacity, and he had come backstage to see me, and I said, Mr. Churchill, I think you ought to know what you did for me.
	And I told him about how this acknowledgment had meant so much to me with my financier.
	And that day at lunch, I came in with a financier again, and Mr. Churchill rose from his chair and bowed.
	That is good.
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	I think the most stunning part of that story for me was Orson Welles playing Othello.
	Wouldn't see that these days, would you?
	No, you wouldn't.
	What another era that was.
	Well, on the topic of Churchill.
	Oh, okay.
	Europe needs to stand up for itself, I think, and I've seen for too long too many things that are intolerable be tolerated.
	And I think that tolerance is not a virtue, it is a vice.
	It is how you become weak, it is how you become a subject of ridicule, it's how you get taken advantage of.
	And I wanted to go over some recent stories just in the past couple of weeks, just to illustrate what is going on in Europe.
	And I'm also, because people say, oh, You tell us all of the problems, you don't give us any solutions.
	Well, I'm going to give you a list of the policies I think that can solve this.
	So, there you go.
	To those people, shut up.
	But, here we have a story here.
	Two Afghan refugees shine at Coward Cricket Club in Selby.
	Anyone guess?
	I've seen these guys' pictures already.
	Yeah, go on.
	Alvin, have you seen this?
	No.
	What do you reckon these gentlemen might have done?
	Rape.
	You're good at this.
	It's like you've been doing this for a while.
	Just the woman who was looking after him, or a different one?
	praised as humble and admirable, charged with gang-raping York woman.
	Just the woman who was looking after him, or a different one?
	I don't know, to be honest.
	I remember I saw some reports saying that these two had been housed by a local York woman.
	So that man on the right, he didn't do anything.
	He didn't do anything, but this one did.
	This guy did, yes.
	Afghanistan or Pakistan, you can take a guess, nine times out of ten it'll be gang rape.
	And this reminds me of something else, where the media writes puff pieces, aren't these wonderful refugees great?
	Did one about this guy, I think he was called Moise Lahombo.
	The article that said how he was so good, the first one.
	Yeah.
	What outlet is this on?
	I wonder if the same publication, how they handled after he... Well most of the, there were lots of articles sharing this thing, most of them have been taken down.
	Okay.
	So this is local press, and I've looked at the Swindon Advertiser before as well, and they do puff pieces about, look at this local migrant who showed up yesterday, and we've already- They're not all bad.
	Yeah, we've already given him a business, and look, he's got- here's a picture of him smiling!
	Like him!
	Like him, he's just like you and me!
	Yeah, except you want to rape your wife and your daughter.
	I've also covered this as well.
	This was an example in Germany of this Kongyo man and they were saying how... He looks like a Welshman to me.
	Yeah, he's definitely Welsh.
	And they're talking about how he does boxing and baking and how he's basically a model for integration.
	And then he went on to do this.
	He beat and sexually assaulted his own mother.
	He had to remind me of this one.
	I know.
	This is what we're importing into Europe.
	These are the people that are rubbed in our noses saying, look at these model immigrants, aren't they so integrated?
	No, they're not.
	We don't do this.
	This is just insane.
	This is clinically insane.
	Yeah, and we've got this as well.
	Asylum seeker posed as child before murdering aspired marine.
	This was in the news today.
	There he is.
	He pretended to be a child as an asylum seeker when he arrived into the UK.
	Said he was 14 but he's actually 19 and then went on to murder... Oh, my thing stopped working.
	He went on to murder an aspiring Royal Marine.
	And if we go over to France, of course, we have this there are all of these church burnings and There's a case here.
	So this guy that did this had been convicted in eight previous cases for church arson and he posted things about anti-racism and Islam and here's his social media of course in Arabic and posting pictures of Islam.
	This is the one who was already a repeat offender?
	Yeah.
	It's ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	At what point do you say no you're just staying in prison?
	Yeah, and I don't know whether this guy is actually French, but the fact that he's converted to Islam, there's a large Islamic presence, shows that it's not even just the people that come to our country that we need to worry about, because they're also having an influence on the lunatics already here.
	They're radicalising.
	Exactly.
	Oh, I don't know what that's doing there.
	Samson, can you get rid of that?
	Oh, there we go.
	Okay.
	So this is France again.
	This is recent, illegal Nigerian migrant, sexually assaults woman, and then the mayor announces women's parking spots and more surveillance.
	Big brother.
	Great.
	That's not how you solve this.
	How you solve it is you don't have the illegal Nigerian migrant.
	Right, exactly.
	They can't do that if they're not there, can they?
	That is how you solve this.
	You know, having special parking spots and increasing surveillance is unnecessary if you don't have these people here in the first place.
	And let's go to Germany.
	This was this morning.
	There were shots fired outside the Israeli consulate.
	I would imagine this is someone upset about Palestine, which I imagine it wouldn't be a native German.
	The Germans had their period of history where they weren't too big fans of those people, but it's not so much anymore.
	And in fact that police officers had to shoot this person dead.
	We don't know much about it.
	Interesting that they mentioned that museum as well, a mid-century German era museum, but I don't think that that's necessarily related, it's just that the consulate is near it.
	But yes, they had to shoot someone dead this morning, and here's another example.
	This is from just the end of August.
	Libyan migrant arrested after assaulting 89 year old woman in her own home.
	Kind of evil, does that?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Apparently Libyans.
	Here's another one.
	Somali migrant stabs German man in the neck in small town.
	He said, I will kill you and your families.
	This is what we're inviting into Europe.
	Number one, Iraqi migrant murders asylum home operator.
	So this was someone who offered shelter to migrants and then they were stabbed by the Iraqi.
	And this was only a day ago.
	So there are multiple examples every day.
	You can just look at Germany, for example.
	This isn't working for anyone.
	The liberals keep saying if you're nicer to them, they'll be nicer back.
	Schizophrenic Somalian who beheaded his roommate will not be deported from Germany because prosecutors worry he'll just come back.
	Is that tautology?
	Why don't you just ban him from the country or close the borders or something then?
	If we, you know, if European countries had the death penalty, there would be no coming back.
	Well, I mean, what are they gonna do?
	Are they just gonna walk him to the border?
	He can't be rehabilitated, can he?
	Like, push him across the border, and then if he turns around and walks straight back in, they go, shrug their shoulders, well, nothing we can do now.
	I'm of the opinion that this humanitarian argument against the death penalty is actually more inhumane than the reality of it, right?
	This schizophrenic Somalian who beheaded someone, he can never exist in society safely.
	It's better for everyone.
	It's probably better for him as well if he were dead.
	We can't even deport people.
	We're never going to have them, are we?
	I know.
	Well, that's where we need to get to.
	We need to push things in that direction.
	Here's another one.
	German police reportedly cover up sexual assault of 12-year-old girl by Syrian refugee who was allowed to walk free after arrest.
	It's infuriating.
	This is going to end up in people taking the matter into their own hands.
	You're going to have vigilantes.
	Yes.
	Continue to have 12 year old girls raped by these refugees.
	Well, that's the thing is that that was essentially what the beginning of last month was here.
	People going to migrant hotels and trying to enact a form of vigilante preemptive justice.
	And, um, all it ends up with is, uh, is, uh, native people in prison.
	Because the state actively seem to be pushing this kind of thing, and then when people understandably get annoyed and they say, well the state's not doing anything to help me, I'll take it into my own hand, then they get punished for doing such a thing.
	Well you only need to point out that there's a problem, and you'll have your life ruined, like this soldier in Germany.
	Who has tripped over his rank over his past support for anti-Islam and anti-multiculturalism movements.
	Sounds like a good man.
	Yeah, well... K-shirts.
	Yeah, he's serving for the military and he's not a fan of Islam.
	Right.
	That should be everyone who's serving in the military.
	Yeah, well... Well, remember that the German press doxxed people, I think it was the Bild newspaper, went out of their way to doxx a bunch of Germans because they've been caught on camera and shared on Twitter singing Auschlander Raus.
	Yeah, it was ridiculous.
	They tried to get them arrested, didn't they?
	Yeah.
	And then, here's another one as well.
	Berlin police have withdrawn their advice to sing loudly if you are confronted with a knife attacker after being widely mocked.
	They claimed the advice was designed to catch an attacker off guard, but in their experience... Trying to get them into the Macarena with you, then they won't stab you.
	Yeah, just sing while you're being stabbed.
	What is wrong with this world?
	If you start singing the big part of the middle of Bohemian Rhapsody, they can't resist.
	How about this idea?
	If someone pulls a knife on you, you should be able to pull a gun on them and shoot them.
	Amen.
	Yeah.
	That is justice right there.
	It works.
	Yeah, it does.
	And, you know, it's a good disincentive to go around stabbing innocent people and mugging them and doing all sorts of horrible things.
	And also another German-speaking country as well.
	Actually, a minor anecdote that reminds me of a story about, you know the old mad record producer Phil Spector?
	Of course, yeah.
	He once pulled a gun on Johnny Ramone in the middle of New York, so Johnny Ramone pulled a gun on him, and you know what?
	Neither of them shot each other.
	It was a good deterrent, actually.
	If Johnny Ramone had shot him in retaliation, he wouldn't have gone on to kill that woman.
	To be fair, if someone pulls a gun on you, you should shoot them.
	Not just pull a gun on them, you should shoot them if they pull a gun on you.
	Josh is right, Phil Spector did end up going and murdering a woman.
	Yeah, he's a scumbag.
	No matter how good the Wall of Sound production method is, he is a scumbag.
	So here's an article about Austria, talking about how non-Muslim girls wear headscarves out of fear because Islam has reached such a point.
	So there are some pretty worrying figures.
	Primary school pupils in Vienna Muslims are now 35% and it's now larger than Catholicism as the largest religious group in Austria.
	And if we look at this, so this is talking about Austria's education system, around 70% of school-aged children in Vienna do not speak German in their everyday life.
	39% or nearly 80,000 children do not have Austrian citizenship.
	A large minority don't have a citizenship and a large majority don't even speak German.
	So, lots of teachers are actually quitting because it's impossible to teach these children.
	20 quitting on peak days, apparently.
	What?
	This is crazy.
	The country can't survive like this.
	Yeah, exactly.
	8 out of 10 reported school crimes in Austria occur in Vienna, with 90% of these incidents committed by immigrant children.
	If you scroll down, I want to see refugee... Oh my gosh, they are the problem.
	Yeah, exactly.
	These people are enabling... I just want to say, rape us.
	Rape us.
	Stab us.
	There's no excuse for people like this now.
	They are just facilitating the sexual assault, murder, and destruction of our civilization.
	As far as I'm concerned, refugees welcome signs are signaling you're a traitor to this country.
	100%.
	Those migrants need deporting, and these women holding this refugees welcome sign need to be locked up.
	We've had mental asylums for a reason, right?
	If people are attacking you and you're like, we want more of this, you're mentally ill.
	There's nothing good about that.
	You're not virtuous.
	You're just pathetic.
	So here's another example.
	At least the polls are slightly more stringent.
	So this is a Senegalese migrant who went into a popular swimming spot to defecate.
	And he just stripped off naked and went to the toilet where people swim.
	I thought that's what the Indians do.
	I didn't know the Senegalese are doing it too.
	Apparently so.
	Disgusting!
	What's wrong with these uncivilised people?
	I know, yeah.
	It's a place that people go to swim and he just strips off naked in front of everyone and goes to the toilet.
	I honestly don't know.
	I'm not asking a stupid question, but for the sake of it, I genuinely don't understand why they do this.
	I don't know much about Senegal.
	I wonder, do they have many toilets over there?
	Is it normalized over there that you just do that?
	At least they deported him.
	That's true.
	The Poles at least have some fighting spirit in them, which a lot of the rest of Europe do not anymore.
	In my ideal society, after Stelios showed me Freddy, we all know what I'm talking about there, do you know what it was?
	He had named a human turd that he'd found on the street in Swindon, Freddy, and tried to, well he did show it.
	He didn't show everybody.
	Because it's Stelios.
	He's a very strange man.
	There are so many around Swindon as well that you could exhaust the British name dictionary.
	But in my ideal society we would then track down the person who did it and deport them.
	Yeah, we've got enough CCTV.
	We don't need people literally crapping on the streets in our society.
	You see videos from back in the day of say the 1960s, a lot cleaner.
	A lot cleaner back then.
	So, we know we've got the data, it's not just anecdotes, right?
	Here's the Danish data, some of the best data in Europe, but it's mirrored across, you know, all of Europe.
	I've looked at the UK data, I've looked at Swedish data recently, I've looked at France, Italy, the whole works all mirrors this trend that people from the Middle East and Africa commit more crimes than elsewhere, and Europe and parts of Asia commit That is just how it works.
	It's enough to make you racist, isn't it?
	You could say that, yeah.
	This, to my mind... I'm so tolerant.
	To my mind, this sort of thing should inform these policies.
	I said I'd give you solutions.
	Here they are.
	Capital punishment for murderers, sex criminals and nonces.
	Give people the legal right to defend themselves.
	Mass re-migration of criminals and financial negatives.
	No welfare for foreigners or ideally anyone except maybe people with disabilities.
	Accept no asylum applications whatsoever.
	Find the illegals already here and deport them.
	Get the legal migration figures to net re-migration.
	And Nuremberg-style trials of those who imposed this on us in the first place.
	How can I vote for you?
	Well, I'm not affiliated with any political party.
	In fact, I was lukewarm on reform because I thought they were... Come and join UKIP.
	I like what you've got to say.
	Well, thank you.
	This needs to be done.
	It's serious.
	Our country is going to be dead if we don't turn things around.
	The current directory shows that this is going to be the way.
	There's no real appetite for this, really, is there?
	Well, there is in the public, but not in politics.
	This should be on everyone's mouth.
	These policies.
	This should be hammered home.
	We want this, and anything less than that is betraying the native British people.
	Let's get rid of the traitors.
	Exactly.
	And if you want to, you know, save your country, you can go to the Lotus Eaters merch store and buy yourself a really nice t-shirt um it is a good shirt i've got that shirt i like that shirt i've got i've got that shirt as well and i imagine josh has ever worn a t-shirt can you wears them all the time actually it's off-putting i don't understand that it's basically being naked um but yes these these t-shirts are very good we're
	We also have all the other Islander stuff that's going off of the merch store at the end of the week, so by the time this goes out, you're not going to have very long to get these limited edition t-shirts, posters and mugs with all of the Islander stuff, because eventually there will be some new stuff there.
	The good news is, the Common Sense Crusade stuff will still be there, so if you want to get a nice t-shirt or a mug, grab one of those instead.
	And yes, to sort of close out, obviously there is a policy solution to this problem.
	We just don't sell our country off to foreigners.
	I'm going to stand on this.
	Everything you just said, apart from one thing, I'm going to stand on all those things in the next election.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Go for it.
	So out of curiosity, what was the one thing you objected to?
	No asylum acts whatsoever.
	If we are going to take in refugees, they should be Christians from Southern Sudan, Northern Nigeria, Artsakh, Armenia.
	Christians that are genuinely persecuted around the world.
	Because if we're going to take people on, that's an argument to be had, then they should be people that share our values.
	Fair enough.
	I mean, it was more of a sort of temporary measure, right?
	Moratorium on asylum in general for a while, yeah.
	I think also the notion of asylum being a temporary thing, not just a route to settlement, because that's what's being taken advantage of.
	So we do have some rumble chats, and I think there was some... Yeah, for the Calvin segment as well.
	Yes, there are.
	Would you like to read your own ones?
	Yeah, sure.
	I'll start from the bottom right.
	Goodbye, Calvin.
	We're all going to miss your good-natured podcast appearances.
	Thank you very much.
	God bless you, and it's been great being on the podcast.
	$50 as well.
	That's really kind.
	Very generous.
	Thank you, The Shadow Band.
	The Last Russian says, interesting how the idea of the Commonwealth is still around for Britain.
	I don't see the colonies of Spain, France, Portugal still having good terms with their former owners.
	In fact, the opposite.
	Yes, because the British Empire was a good thing.
	Aoife Nave, Aoife Nave says, Australian here.
	In Tasmania, the church goes hunted.
	The churchgoers hunted aboriginals for sport, wiped them out.
	Churchill used our soldiers as shock troops.
	He didn't care that we were in danger from Japan.
	Total P word.
	That's a very narrow perspective of history.
	I'm not aware of any actual hunting of aboriginals for sport.
	I would need to see some pretty hefty evidence to believe that it was done so brutally.
	Interesting Irish name there for an Australian too.
	Keith Kaiser says, where I work, I kid you not, we have three incidents of people taking impromptu bathroom trips in the showers while travelling and we are tired of having to clean this up.
	You just know who are doing it.
	I don't know if we covered it on the podcast, but you know the way there's that massive influx of Indians in Canada at the moment?
	Have we covered the problems that have happened with the lorries and the trucks because of a lot of Indians taking those jobs recently?
	Because, uh, the- Oh, have we not?
	Okay, I'll just mention it- Brown wave.
	I'll mention it briefly.
	Well, on the roads, yes.
	Uh, because what they do is they want to get those jobs and they want to work them more than anybody other el- uh, anybody else.
	So they'll take it in shifts to drive the lorry without ever really having to stop to sleep at the side of the road like you do, or...
	Take bathroom breaks.
	So there's been a trend recently of people who actually own the lorries that these people are using finding that there is just, it's caked underneath and they break.
	They don't work properly anymore because they're absolutely caked because they are cutting holes in the bottom of the cabins and using those for bathroom breaks so they don't have to stop at the side of the road or something.
	Absolute animals.
	Yeah.
	Who would even think of that?
	Yeah, Canada, for being such a tolerant and liberal country, I've seen a lot of just outright anti-Indian stuff coming from there, even from some of the more left-wing areas, because of the fact that they've been just flooded with them all at once.
	And of course, these will be mainly of the lower castes, because in India, they've got the caste system.
	And those on the lower castes are probably the ones who are committing a lot of this disgusting behaviour.
	Well, that explains Swindon because it's got a large Indian population and it drives me mad to live here.
	But anyway, let's go on to my cheery segment.
	May I?
	Of course.
	May I have this?
	I'm worried that it's going to stop working.
	Yeah, let's see.
	Is it working?
	It is working.
	Excellent.
	I watched a horrible video on YouTube, and so I thought I'd subject all of you to bits and pieces of the information that's held within it, because it's really one of those bits where it exposes that side of the internet that we all know exists.
	and is very, very dark and seedy and perverted, but we don't often want to look into.
	But it's important to be aware of this stuff, not only because it's an acknowledgement of the darker sides of human nature and the fact that the internet has unleashed a lot of this onto a much more public platform than these people ever had before, but also for the well-being and safeguarding of children.
	Harry really said I browse the dark web so you don't have to.
	No I did not, this was a YouTube video.
	I've seen the same YouTube video that Harry has actually.
	You were telling me about it yesterday.
	I actually had to stop and come back to it because it was so bad.
	I have quite a strong stomach and for something to be that disturbing it takes a lot.
	Yeah, but the internet has become a place where people can platform to the public their own disgusting fetishes and I think it needs to be Highlighted here because if you've got children, you should be aware that this stuff is out there and you need to try to make Definitive steps to prevent your own children from being exposed to this or God forbid being victimized by it first You should buy some merch on the website.
	Bit of a tangent, but we've got the merch available still.
	The Islander merch that we have right now is becoming very limited.
	I think we're nearing the end of our stocks of it, so get it while you still can.
	That's my favorite t-shirt of the lot, by the way.
	I wear that a lot.
	It reminds me of a skate brand t-shirt and reminds me of being a teenager.
	Brings me back to my youth.
	Very long time ago now.
	We're almost the same age, Harry.
	Exactly, you're ancient.
	Almost is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, Josh.
	A year apart.
	Yeah, I can hear your back creaking.
	Anyway, so one of the problems of the internet is that you don't always know who you're speaking to on the other side, and this is a problem for a long time.
	Now, there is a more innocent side of adults pretending to be kids which is highlighted in this vice article from 10 years ago where there's the habit of adults to try and say look my kids said this wacky thing or my kids said this inspirational thing and everybody clapped so that they can try and get likes and try and pretend that ah the wisdom of youth springs eternal gosh i remember danny wallace yeah i know It's a while back now, isn't it?
	But, of course, there is the very dark side of this, which is people trying to groom your children online.
	Groom in the more traditional sense of it.
	They pretend to be children, they get in touch with other children online so that they can try and get that relationship started, and then they can try and exchange images or, God forbid, meet up in person, and it's disgusting, and it is a thing that happens.
	So I saw something on this recently.
	They created an AI profile.
	I think it was on Instagram.
	The amount of groomers and pedophiles that were just straight in the DMs of this profile.
	I think it was like a 12 year old girl or something that they created on AI.
	Just everyone was launching on, but Meta doesn't do anything to kind of protect or censor or filter it.
	It's just almost becomes a promoter for these people.
	Yeah, so there's a YouTube channel which I've been introduced to because some of these videos went a bit viral recently called Nick Crowley who looks into this darker side of the internet and it's really shocking to me as somebody who, you know, I never went on any of those gore sites when I was a child, I never looked at live leaks or any of those websites personally because I knew that I wouldn't
	like what was on there so i avoided it but it's always part of that knowledge in the back of my head that this sort of stuff is out there and people do really really horrible and messed up things so one of the videos that i became aware of through this was piper gate which has almost six million views and to give a brief description of this and what was going on
	here was that there were multiple youtube channels called things like piper rocks isabel piper that were all connected and presenting the same very strange very disturbing edits that featured images of children which had been taken from very small youtube channels being run by children that had very few subscribers and
	And, uh, the person running these channels was pretending to be an 11-year-old, 10, 11-year-old girl called Piper.
	And, uh, and, uh, let me see if I can get some of the footage up here.
	And it's, it's very messed up.
	Let me just mute this.
	So some of these weird, the weird footage.
	Very strange.
	Very abstract.
	This is a real girl.
	This is a real girl that somebody has taken images of from their own YouTube channel or from videos that were already available online and decided to start editing them into strange and disturbing scenarios.
	I see.
	Some of them very sexual.
	Some of them very creepy, lots of zombie stuff.
	And again, This was all while pretending to be a 11-year-old girl themselves, whoever was running this.
	So you can see kids playing pat-a-cake in dilapidated buildings, use of footage from I think that's a kid's TV show, weird edits like this, where the Joker is there, and you can see that they were also eventually putting on a voice and saying, oh this is my voice, here's me editing in the woods, let me see if I can...
	Get the time here, 7 minutes and 46.
	Let me play this for you.
	...my video, which was the first time that Piper would reveal her voice. Hi guys. Well, I was editing some of my videos and I forgot and left the camera on, so thought I'd upload it and show you guys.
	Hope you like it.
	That's equal parts creepy, equal parts lame.
	That does not sound like a young girl.
	Well, yes, exactly.
	And it looked as though he might, the man who was doing this, might have pitched the voice up using an audio filter by two octaves or something.
	So people started to investigate this because it turned out there was about six or eight other channels posting the same kind of content, some which had been made as recent as 2021.
	One channel had been going back to 2011 posting the same thing, and the person behind this had been interacting with a lot of people in the comments as well, sort of role-playing the idea that it was an 11-year-old.
	People were theorizing that it was a possible catfish From pedophiles trying to get little girls or little boys online, or best case scenario, a catfish from feds trying to catch people interacting inappropriately because the comments of all of these videos were filled with people inappropriately trying to get in touch with this Piper person.
	So 4chan decided to start investigating it.
	...the most honest and integrity-fuelled investigators online, and I'm saying that only half-ironically, sadly.
	Better than the FBI.
	They called in an airstrike on Syria.
	On Syria?
	On ISIS in Syria, not on Syria generally.
	So they ended up doing something called Pipergate and they published in August 2020 a 33-page report and found that these channels were being run by a 65-year-old man called William Whittaker who had been arrested previously in 2002 for possession of child sexual exploitation material.
	He was a registered sex offender.
	He had started after this a child modeling agency called Wizard Productions where he tricked parents into thinking that if you get me to film videos of your children dancing then I'll send them off to my connections he didn't have any connections in Hollywood and they'll become big stars and nobody knows what he did with that footage he ended up getting shut down in 2005 but the police didn't actually do anything to him despite the fact he was running an illegal fraudulent business
	Of course, he never went to prison over it.
	So people theorized that he probably either used them for personal purposes or was selling them off.
	And people were theorizing that these videos were being used as some kind of front to sell images or videos of people.
	Young people.
	And shockingly enough, some of these videos got caught by the YouTube algorithm and picked up and put on YouTube kids.
	So this was actually being put in front of children.
	So YouTube demonetised us, but they'll promote that.
	Yes.
	And he has since died, William Whitaker, in 2021.
	We don't know of what, but it may have been natural causes.
	But the records that 4chan were able to get access to Show that he had been classified as deceased.
	So thankfully the freak running this sort of stuff was, he's gone.
	He is gone forever.
	And that's when I move on to somebody who isn't gone, who is still out there.
	And it is a video that I became aware of as many people did over the past few weeks.
	A video by Nick Crowley looking into Smart Schoolboy 9.
	I was aware of it because people like Juice were posting it.
	And let's take a look at what is going on in here.
	So it turns out that this person is somebody who has been running multiple Instagram accounts, all claiming to be small children.
	Again, 10, 11, 12 school children being administered and looked over by their parents as well.
	Sorry for the creepy imagery on the screen, by the way.
	And he was also claiming to try to highlight pedophilic activity that was taking place on Instagram.
	Some people theorize that this may have been because he's trying to give them a cover, a legitimate cover.
	You can trust me, look, I wouldn't be an adult pretending to be a child online because I'm trying to highlight other people doing that.
	There are a few different accounts that were all interacting with one another, and one of them, truthsticks11, Uh, initially started as supposedly the mother posting pictures of a particular child on the Instagram.
	And it looked relatively normal until of course you begin to get some very strange and disturbing edits of children being put on there.
	So let me, I don't want to see.
	Some of these are very creepy.
	So warning to you.
	Very strange and disturbing edits, many of which ended up being photoshopped onto the bodies of adults or young people in, shall we say, inappropriate positions.
	So it seemed that this guy was trying to create his own CP.
	Weird.
	Yeah.
	It's very, very disturbing.
	and there were a few videos where you can hear his voice because he's pretending to be the child and he's putting on a child voice there was also an obsession with this red lipstick these eyes this particular haircut and also in every single one of them high-heeled mini boots and this was across multiple different instagram accounts that were all posting the same kind of content just pretending to be different children so it'd be a different face but always the same obsession with particular things like briefcase and like the mini boots
	until, of course, everybody found that they connected back to one particular account called Smart Schoolboy9, where the person behind this was posting pictures of himself in this kind of dress, pretending to be a schoolboy with the mini boots pretending to be a schoolboy with the mini boots that were all interacting with one another.
	So he'd created a miniature ecosystem for himself to play out his own fetish.
	And there were some videos where it seemed that he was pleasuring himself to his own reflection.
	So he's obviously getting off on all of this.
	And this was on Instagram.
	These were profiles that were accessible to anybody and everybody.
	You might end up, if you were a child going through Instagram, coming across something like this.
	And who knows if he would have been trying to get in touch with you himself.
	Now, I would say it all...
	To be a bit hyperbolic, it seems almost like demonic possession.
	Some of the disturbing videos that he was posting on here seemed to show him out and about in public, as you can see here.
	And one of the videos in particular...
	Seem to show him chasing after an actual school child and some of the photos that he was posting were very clearly taken in school in playgrounds of children that he must have just gone and taken photos of and put onto his Instagram and started producing videos of.
	People took a load of notice of this
	people started to try and investigate into what this was on reddit for instance people started to conduct investigations and they found out that his real name was david alter who was a 59 year old man who had done things in the past like writing articles for the local paper talking about the importance of school children's school uniforms for children obviously he had his own reasons for liking that and um there was rumors that he was also
	Being investigated by the police.
	Because he lives in England, he lives in London, I believe.
	He formerly, supposedly, lived in Doncaster, and now there's a big load of rumors swirling around about the guy, and what's going on with him, and whether there is an investigation.
	And it's all being collected in this Dextero article here.
	So they say the first biggest rumor is that Smart School Boy 9 was either driven out of Doncaster for his behavior or arrested by South Yorkshire City in the 90s.
	Now, they have actually spoken to the Yorkshire Police, the South Yorkshire Police, and they say that there's no investigation that they can make anybody aware of.
	And that they said that nothing went on.
	Initially, Redditors on the subreddit for Doncaster shared what they claimed to have happened to Alter, but questions about him are now being monitored and deleted since the case went viral.
	Somebody shared a screenshot of one of the threads on the Smart Schoolboy9 page stating some more information about the supposed arrest of David.
	Initially, I found a Facebook post from a Doncaster local claiming that David Alter had been arrested.
	I assumed it was recent, but today I found some other stuff saying that it was happening in the 90s.
	Screenshots show a post from August 13 asking the residents of Doncaster if they remember the man nicknamed by locals as David Walter Alter.
	It says that he got jailed for stalking a teenage pupil attending the local Hall Cross Academy School.
	Now again, these are all rumours being posted by people online.
	But one of the interesting things was that supposedly there's an archive of a Usenet post from 1999 where a writer from Doncaster describes him going to a local Tesco supermarket.
	So this would have been maybe when he was in his mid-thirties.
	dressed in a schoolboy's uniform, wearing high-platform girls' shoes.
	And according to their account, when the cashier asked if they had a Tesco club card, he replied, Of course not, I'm only 13.
	And the person added, This guy's about 30 years old and over 6 feet tall.
	So apparently, if you were to see him in public, as people did back then, it was a laughing stock.
	It was worthy of laughing.
	It's when it gets transposed online and you begin to start seeing the truly depraved nature of this guy's fantasies that it becomes clear this isn't just some eccentric that you laugh at, this is a guy with some very, very serious abnormalities mentally who needs to be investigated, especially seeing as some of the footage that he has shared seems to be him chasing school children.
	Very disturbing.
	Also, David Firth, the man who was the creator of Salad Fingers, has responded to somebody messaging him saying, well, you're from Doncaster, do you remember this guy?
	And he said, yeah, I think I remember him walking around town in the late 90s or early 2000s when I was at Horse Cross School.
	So that's interesting that there seems to be different corroborating reports, even from somebody as high profile as David Firth, saying that, yeah, this guy used to be out and about We just don't know exactly what's going on with him.
	But given the fact that this guy is posting essentially illegal material online, some of it created by himself, and that we've seen how deep some of these rabbit holes go, like with the Pipergate situation, where there is a dis- thinked possibility that it might be a front these profiles for much more sinister activity going on beyond just the surface level fetishism and disgusting nature of the content that's being posted yeah i hope that this guy is being looked into
	people say that there is an investigation going on but it doesn't seem that anything is being confirmed as of yet he's still actively posting um i don't know actually if he's actively posting still Because I don't think the accounts exist anymore.
	After this went viral, I looked on Instagram to find the accounts that it was referring to, and I couldn't find any of them.
	So I assume, now that he's more well-known, that he's decided to delete all of them.
	But who knows if he's going to stop doing what he's done, because he might just move on to create some more accounts that people don't find immediately.
	But yeah, that's the dark side of the internet people don't like to think about.
	I don't like thinking about it, but it's always worth knowing about because, yeah, there are creeps online who do very disturbing and very deranged things that children should be kept away from.
	Children don't need to be on the internet.
	Certainly not.
	Wow, that was horrifying.
	It was grim.
	I already knew about the Schoolboy Nine stuff, but I didn't know about the other case as well, and it's just even more depressing.
	Ugh.
	There's a comment there for you, Calvin, by the way.
	That's a random name.
	Doing a drive-by goodbye to Calvin.
	Keep up the great work, and I hope you'll use your American freedom to tell the truth to powers, to the orcs who have infested the UK.
	Also, the web is dark and full of groipers.
	The web is dark and full of groipers, unfortunately.
	The web is not always a good place, but thank you for the shoutout.
	What you've just said is the web is dark and full of Mexicans.
	I don't know if you've seen the typical Gruyper.
	Are they all Mexicans?
	They're shockingly over-indexed in the movement.
	Really?
	Is Fuentes a Mexican?
	He's a gay Mexican, yeah.
	That's liable.
	I don't think he's out, is he?
	He's allegedly.
	I've only heard rumours.
	He does say having sex with women is gay.
	By default, yeah.
	Can we have something a bit more entertaining now?
	Yeah, sorry, sorry.
	I had to watch that video, so I thought I might as well put it to good use.
	Well, I've watched it again now.
	I mean, I didn't tell you you had to do that.
	I know, but I already watched it.
	Anyway, Samson, take it away.
	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	A very short one here.
	Is that the emblem for the Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield I spy on that laptop?
	It's too blurry to make out.
	In other news, I have discovered that the leader of the so-called Far-Right Riots was neither Nigel Carl or Tommy Robinson.
	Here's some secret footage identifying the single greatest threat to multiculturalism.
	We hold the world ransom for one million dollars.
	I knew it.
	I knew it.
	Rose Eyebrow Game is too good.
	Yeah, we're gonna need a bit more than that.
	We're breaking out the kitchen towels, ladies and gentlemen.
	Oh, it's got the big guns now.
	What a way to sing out Calvin.
	You know how people pop a bottle of champagne and that's the Lotus Eaters' equivalent?
	Some water.
	We're in working hours.
	Give the desk a nice clean, look at that.
	Oh, it's my mouse mat, it's all soggy now.
	It's your mouse mat?
	It is, yeah.
	Let's pull up some comments while you're cleaning.
	Oh, it's on mine!
	Ah!
	Sorry.
	It dripped on me as well!
	It travelled.
	Of course, it's not got here.
	Thank god.
	Now I can say I didn't wet myself, it just dripped on me.
	It went towards Harry.
	It was the goblins that did it.
	Russian garbage human said I wish you nothing but the best, Calvin.
	You've been a great host and contributor and it is a huge loss to our country to see you leave, but I understand your speech and mere presence will land you in danger from the peaceful community of peace soon or later.
	Thank you for everything.
	Thank you, Russian garbage human.
	And if you guys want to get the inside story or the full story of why I'm going and where I'm going, I did an interview with Dan Wooten on Dan Wooten Outspoken yesterday.
	Essentially, it's a calling.
	I'm going to perish, but also I do need to get out of here because it's not safe.
	Calm Rob said, what an absolute shame that we are losing.
	Although these are all about me.
	This is embarrassing.
	This is the first part of the comment section that we've got here, all comments about you wishing you well.
	Okay, well that's lovely.
	Thank you.
	Calm Rob says it's an absolute shame that we are losing Father Calvin.
	I completely support his decision and fear we will continue to lose our greatest talents and defenders of free speech.
	Unfortunately, this tyrannical government is only just getting started.
	I fear you may be right.
	We've got five years till we can do anything about it, but let's hope more people wake up in the next five years so that we can vote our way out of this mess.
	Otherwise, we're doomed!
	Tom Gordon, while I wish you all the best, Calvin, very saddened to lose such a great voice for Christendom in this country.
	Thank you.
	And Biggy Bigfoot, delighted to hear you're still continuing the common sense crusade.
	Someone needs to keep reminding the boys at Lotus Eaters that Christ is truly king.
	Good luck with your new venture, father.
	I wish you all the best.
	Absolutely.
	We're getting close.
	I think Carl is so close to conversion.
	And Andrew Norag said, your presence on the podcast will be missed, Calvin.
	Praying you have a safe journey to the States and glad to hear that you'll still be contributing to the Lotus Eaters from afar.
	Thank you very much for all of those wonderful, lovely, heartwarming comments.
	So we got some about Winston Churchill as well.
	Oh, great.
	We've got some more video comments.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	Yeah, of course.
	North Devon is an area of outstanding natural beauty, but is facing irreversible change.
	Fresh residential developments are springing up, but with access being limited to a few winding and narrow roads.
	The narrowness of the roads is part of the historic charm of the area, including driving through towns like Holsworthy, where the main A388 will suddenly narrow to barely wider than a lorry.
	The driving experience is fraught with danger as the traffic increases.
	I've noticed a far greater reliance on the air ambulance to collect those in need, which highlights the strain in the system.
	I actually went up there in July because that's where my mum's side of the family are from and I saw how Ilfacombe had changed because that's where my family had a hotel and it's very very different.
	It's a bit dilapidated and yet loads of people from London and that sort of surrounding area are moving to North Devon and Cornwall to buy houses and so it's pushing up the cost of living for the people that already live there.
	I'm terribly sorry to have to do this.
	I always do end up doing it.
	No way.
	We're nearly finished.
	What is wrong with you?
	We've got nine minutes, Harry.
	This has been a very eventful podcast.
	I can't believe he's just walked out.
	I've spilled water.
	We've got, you know, flies in here.
	Harry's gone to the toilet.
	Anyway, let's carry on business as usual.
	I hope to see a part two of the history of money.
	And something I'd realized recently was brought up in this video, and that's war is hell of expensive.
	Why did Nixon lift the gold standard?
	We ran out of money to fight in Vietnam.
	The war would have necessarily ended without funds.
	Then I realized that this happened before.
	The Romans diluted silver coins to increase the currency supply, and they fought a lot of foreign wars.
	I'm no historian, so I ask, how common was inflation, and how commonly did it correlate to war?
	I know this was a question for Beau, but I spoke to Beau about this because I was told about it, but also I agree with Beau's answer that inflation is very much correlated with war, to a significant degree in fact, and that Wars are expensive, and if you can tax your population by other means, by inflating the currency, it causes less disruption.
	You know, of course, the population's already at war, they're already facing the risk of potentially dying, or someone they know dying, and then you're saying, oh yeah, by the way, we're increasing your taxes.
	Right.
	Then, you know, if you do it via inflation, it's a bit more stealthy, you can get away with it.
	So if we had fewer wars, we'd be better off.
	Yeah, it's funny that, isn't it?
	Same time the US is funneling money to BlackRock for the war in the Ukraine as well as for rebuilding the Ukraine and all that money.
	Where's that money from?
	BlackRock going?
	Well, probably back to the Biden family.
	Allegedly back to the Biden family.
	It's almost like there's some sort of military-industrial complex.
	Send the taxpayers' monies to these big corporate entities and then back to the politicians and then everyone's happy except for the taxpayers.
	It's a money laundering operation really, isn't it?
	It's just a way to steal from the taxpayer.
	So we have some comments here for yours.
	Would you like me to read them or show you?
	Sure, go for it.
	So Thomas Howell says, Churchill was a hero and heroes can be flawed.
	Amen.
	Baron Von Wargoose says, those criticising Churchill are usually the ones who praise Lenin, Mao, Castro and Klaus Schwab.
	I refuse to be lectured about morality by people who owe allegiance to genocidal maniacs who are willing to create a hell on earth in the name of revolution.
	Hey Baron.
	That is true, although I don't like any of those people.
	Who do you like?
	Who is a hero of yours?
	Good question.
	To be fair, we shouldn't have idols, but heroes are slightly different.
	Apologies, gents.
	I think that Josh spilling that water pushed me over the edge.
	I was holding onto it just fine until then.
	I quite like Ray Mears.
	I wouldn't say he's a hero.
	I just enjoyed his bushcraft shows and teaching an appreciation of nature to the British public, I think is important.
	Harry, do you have any heroes?
	You'd be a musician, isn't it?
	Devon Townsend.
	Probably someone like Devon, actually, yeah.
	There you go.
	He's a Canadian heavy metal musician who has experimented with lots of different genres.
	Generally speaking, like guitarists.
	Because I'm a guitarist, so... So, A Very Hairy Harry says, Winston Churchill is often criticised for losing the Empire, but in this regard, not only did he serve as Secretary of State for the colonies, but he did everything he reasonably could to save it.
	Despite what many say about the Bengal famine, Churchill deeply cared and even asked Roosevelt for help in relieving India, but ultimately losing the empire was not necessarily a bad thing for Britain.
	As the 19th century British Foreign Secretary Canning said, the empire should serve us, not us serve it.
	Yeah there's certainly a good argument for that.
	I do agree it should serve us, but I do think it was a bad thing that we lost the empire.
	Yeah, I mean, bad thing for the other countries because it costed us more money to administrate it and to, you know, import our technological innovations abroad than we got in return.
	And also our military might was spread across the empire.
	Now we have no military might, so now we're relying entirely on the Americans.
	Yeah, I was going to say, I think as a position of world power and dominance that it put us in a much better position than the one we're in today, certainly.
	So I'll read one more.
	Matthew Hammond, wasn't the downfall of Britain as the military superpower related to the creation of the NHS?
	And backing away from their responsibilities of the British Commonwealth, Churchill supported the creation of the NHS, which could be a legitimate criticism.
	Yes.
	That was a massive problem for us, spending all of that money, and that was at least government, yes.
	Although, yeah, I didn't know that Churchill supported it though.
	I will say that, again, Roosevelt was scheming behind the scenes to basically grab India from us during the Second World War as well.
	He was saying that he would support Indian independence.
	So Roosevelt, despite being our ally in the war front, in terms of actual political aims on the grander scale, was working against us.
	We should have just given her India, to be honest.
	You can have it.
	You'll waste all your money building toilets that they won't use.
	Hey, the UN already does.
	That's true, yeah.
	In the end, we did win.
	Chase Ball says, this is for the Europe segment.
	In Canada, we have many churches miraculously burning down, mosques and synagogues untouched, governments just blames it on climate change, the pesky Christophobic climate change.
	Why was that a tongue twister for me?
	Kevin Falk says only 50% of homes in Senegal have toilets.
	Well, that explains it.
	It's on the edge of the Sahara, isn't it?
	So it's quite a deserty and they just they sort of cover it with sand.
	What, like cats?
	Yeah, they just have a litter tray.
	Omar Awad says they must be getting their model migrants from the same place experts get their model climates.
	Unerringly accurate.
	Inaccurate.
	Inaccurate, that's the one, yeah.
	I can't read anymore.
	Ever since I spilt that water I've been beside myself.
	Charles says, make hanging great again.
	That sounds really bad out of context, but yes, I agree.
	Sorry, did I just give that thumbs up?
	I meant, oh no.
	Oh no, that's terrible, but also it's a perfectly legitimate policy proposal.
	And Lord Nerevar says, Europe actually does seem to be fighting back now.
	They've been inflicted with one too many migrant stabbings and that's just it.
	I wouldn't be surprised to see a big swing in pretty much every upcoming election.
	I think that's already going on, to be honest.
	Look at France, look at Germany, look at Britain, to a lesser extent.
	There are movements now.
	I don't have the impact yet, so hopefully it will continue.
	Momentum will build.
	Harry.
	I'll read through a few of mine.
	Andrew Narog, in regards to Harry's segment, I only have one thing to say.
	Demons!
	They're all possessed by demons.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Honestly, maybe.
	It wouldn't shock me at this point.
	I just think people are evil.
	Not all people, but people have a tendency to be horrifically bad.
	Not saying that you have a tendency to sin, but that stuff, what Harry was going over, is just evil.
	That is demonic influence there for sure.
	And not to say that that would absolve him of responsibility or anything, certainly not.
	not edward longshanks well done harry for highlighting these issues when i have children i'll watch over the internet activity as much as possible yet um you have to draw a fine line with children because of course they are going to try and push back against you if you go far too hard on it um you might end up alienating them making them feel like they want to you know go behind your back to do things because Kids will push back and rebel, but there is definitely a fine line where you do need to keep your kids away from this stuff.
	Absolutely.
	It's just very difficult, especially nowadays when kids are going to be exposed to it at schools as well.
	If you go to great lengths to stop your kids from having access to phones in the home, And maybe only get them a flip phone that they can use when they're going out and about so they can stay in contact with you.
	Perfectly reasonable thing to do.
	I was only on a flip phone for a very, very long time when I was a young boy and a teenager.
	When you get to school, sadly, it's a race to the bottom.
	All bets are off.
	And that's a terrible thing.
	Schools should really be going about confiscating the phones.
	I was amazed.
	Went on.
	There's a new policy like no phones in schools.
	A lot of schools have this.
	You can either hand in your phone at the start of term and get it back at the end of term or just if you get caught with a phone in school you get punished.
	I remember being in school and my phone broke and so my mum said oh I've got a spare phone the only problem is it's hot pink and it's like a hot pink flip phone and I was almost disappointed that no one bullied me for it.
	I'm just like don't don't just accept it.
	That's even worse!
	Oh, it's just Josh with his pink flip phone.
	I know, I was just like, yeah, my phone broke and I've got my mum's old phone and they're like, alright, fair enough.
	Clearly, Josh, they saw the pink phone in your hand and just went, eh, makes sense.
	Yeah, tracks, yeah.
	Yeah, makes sense there.
	I was compensating for my masculinity, that's what I was doing.
	I'll read one more comment.
	Poods B says, this whole segment.
	Thanks.
	I hate it.
	Yeah, me too.
	But anyway, I think that's all we've got time for.
	And first and foremost, thank you very much, Father Calvin, for everything you've done.
	I mean, you're not leaving us.
	I'm not leaving.
	I'm not dying.
	I'll still be here.
	I just won't be in the studio, unfortunately.
	That's true.
	But it's been a pleasure working with you.
	And make sure everyone to send your best wishes Calvin's way.
	And of course, you know, he's not disappearing.
	He'll still be doing the same thing.
	And thank you very much for watching and goodbye.
	Thank you.
	God bless.
	Half an hour.

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