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Sept. 4, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #993
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*Music* Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seasons.
It's today, Wednesday the 4th of September 2024.
I'm your host Connor, joined by Dan.
Hello.
And Professor Ed Dutton.
Hello!
Well thank you very much for joining us Ed, appreciate it.
Today we're going to be discussing Dan's unpopular opinion why boomers are now friends, how the German zoomers are incredibly based, and how Ed thinks physiognomy is a legitimate science.
That's going to be a very fun one.
Final reminders Samson has just put up on screen at the moment the Islander merch for the first issue is going to be not sold anymore.
When's the date that you can get it by, Samson?
I think it's the end of this week.
End of this week!
So you've still got till the end of the week, got about three, four days to go and pick up these wonderful t-shirts that Rory has designed himself and then, well, you have to see what comes in stock with issue two, won't you?
But they are limited edition and you can go and enjoy them if you are so inclined to wear graphic tees.
But Without further ado, Dan, why don't you take it away for today?
Yes, well, I wanted to tell everybody that the boomers, they are friends now.
I want to sort of clearly, you know, get that message across because there has been a little bit of... there was a little bit of boomer bashing.
Not unwarranted in some places.
Yeah, over the Zero Seats campaign.
But I wanted to make that point via a sort of a bit of a weird swerve.
Rod Liddle does this a lot in his articles.
He'll start off talking about one thing.
And then he'll sort of swerve into the thing that he actually wants to talk about.
And it's a bit irritating, but I've always wanted to do it.
So I'm going to do it in this one.
And I'm going to start off by pointing out the unpopular opinion.
Hopefully most of you know what it is, but lots of you won't.
But that is, that was sort of the premier Tuesday night sort of pub hangout for people in our sort of sphere.
You say premier because you were on it.
Yes, yes, a fair bit.
I was on the last one as well.
And then that's the thing, is the last one.
So it stopped and, you know, Dr Parveen, I mean, he's not a professor like you, but he's a proper academic, a proper academic.
He was, you know, a Shakespearean scholar, a highly regarded one, you know, quite clever.
And, you know, he turned his mind to sort of doing political theory type stuff and it ended up as a sort of, you know, chat amongst friends on the right.
I think it was Karl who sort of first gave it a bit of a big boost.
And it's sort of been a sort of incubator for right-wing personalities who have emerged and it set the tone on quite a number of things.
So I just think it's worth noting that it's ended, end of an era, very sad but it was the essential sort of Tuesday night viewing.
There have been rumours that Academic Agent is going to join the Tony Blair Institute.
I don't know.
I think they might just be rumours.
Yes.
Well, given Tony Blair's recent interview where he said he doesn't want to bring over any more families from Asia and Africa, I think the good Doctor Parvini might be excluded from Tony Blair's favour at this point.
Well, they have got a job posting up for, was it, Head of Emergent Phenomena and Populist Support and something like that, so that could be him.
Also, the other reason he's notable, and this hasn't been officially confirmed, but he's got this very sort of erudite, witty co-host who joins him on this, and a lot of people have been saying that it's Douglas Murray, a non-account.
What, John Dee?
Yes.
I don't know if that is true, but I mean, there are clues.
Like, several times an episode, he will just blurt out, I love the nation of Israel.
So, I mean, there are things that you can pick up on.
Didn't we meet John Dee?
No, we never met him.
The, uh... No?
No.
Who are you thinking of?
I'm sure I met somebody, unless I'm... He's never been seen.
It's like being in a nursing home, innit, people?
Well, look, you'll get there.
I'm sure I met someone that said, I'm John Dee, I'm him.
Is it?
No?
Oh well.
Oh no, more goth I met.
That's it.
Sorry.
No, very different.
Very different.
But the reason I mention this is because he's quite good at sort of coining phrases that have cut through on the right and then end up being sort of picked up and he was the originator of many terms on the online right.
So for example, instead of before we used to have to say things like post-war liberal consensus paradigm, which it doesn't trip off the tongue, he sort of nailed that down to boomer truth.
um which which which you know you can you can use that you can you can sort of use it in a sentence and you can you you know what sort of goes along with it um and it is influenced all sorts of um writers such as this on European Conservative um which um you know they play boomer politics get zero seats and i'll just read you a a segment from it that cuts through this quite well Let's appropriate the pejorative label for the paradigm, boomer truth.
Under boomer truth, a country, a culture, a people cannot act on their own particular interests, only on behalf of those not yet basking in the light of liberal imperialism.
This mindset as a paralyzing agent isn't confined to boomers alone, but it passes permeable barriers between generations of diminishing returns.
The European Union has said as much in their attempt to establish a shared European history.
They insisted on the importance of acknowledging crimes committed by Nazis, fascists, communists, totalitarian regimes, as well as under colonialism.
So basically they're wrapping everything from the third right to Britain into one sort of package under this.
So I mean who wrote this?
Let's have a look.
Oh, it was you?
Yeah, in my defence, I didn't choose the title.
But yes, he also originated the term zero seats, which set the tone for the last election and our very successful streak.
Oh, I'm coming to that, I'm coming to that.
Quite, but yeah, so you can easily... But give us the reason why you picked it, because you picked up on a whole bunch of his terms there, and you've... Oh, because...
The conservatives are going to lose their voting bloc from the boomers that they essentially bought off by saying we're going to quadruple lock your pension and send all those woke snowflakes off to die for Ukraine but all the subsequent generations upon whose conscience the second world war doesn't rest like a dead hand they don't buy into the post-war narrative which is that every single country has to act to prove their anti-racist bona fides to ensure they don't become ...Adolf Hitler.
And so, for them, they're like, no, I'd rather act in my own interest, actually, if I'm going to be right-wing.
So, if the Conservatives keep leaning on Boomer Truth, they're going to keep losing elections.
Exactly right.
Do you want to come in on that, or...?
No, okay.
He came up with other good terms such as the gay, global American empire, which is quite fun using because people will always assume that you're talking about something else and get upset and then you can correct them and say no it's actually this very clever term.
Just like global homo.
Yes.
Global homogeneity.
Yes.
But perhaps his crowning achievement was...
Can we play this?
This is the one that really had cut through and was being talked about by everyone.
Mainstream media Zero seats We can cut the sound on that.
But, you know, that was sort of the big cut-through for him.
So, the only other thing I'll say about this is he did have the occasional grumble about... Well, that, I think, is his main achievement, is the way that he combines this slightly lyrical Welsh accent with an irredeemable level of Peter Hitchens-esque grumpiness.
And he uses this Welsh grumpiness to present based ideas to people.
That's more of an achievement than Zero Seats or whatever.
It's that unique, grumpy, Welsh, half-Iranian-ness.
Which is only embodied in Nima.
The Zero Seats really do have cutthroat.
I really like the fake commercial where they use AI or something to do Rishi Sunak's voice.
Oh yeah, that was Toyin Fowl.
Inspired by Zero Seats.
We do hate you.
I'm sorry, we do hate you.
It just perfectly encapsulated the...
And on his sort of general theme of grumpiness, he did have the occasional grumble about his takes being pinched and used in places like Lotus Eaters.
So as the ultimate tribute to the man, now that it's all ended, I'm going to do exactly that.
I'm going to steal one of his takes.
So here we go.
um he's talking there about how you know uh when it was zero seats the boomers were an enemy client group who could do no right and now we're zero seats for labors so they are a friend client group and i i just wanted to sort of you know really reinforce that point This is where we are.
The boomers are now friends.
And I want to try and get into this because it is an important decision.
Because we have bashed on them a bit over the last couple of years.
But first of all, anyone want to have a go at defining a client group?
Well, it's a group that is used, an extra-parliamentary group that is used to reinforce the regime, to prop up the regime.
Yes.
So, are boomers there to prop up the current regime?
And if they are, they are a client group and they have special privileges.
Well, they were with the last one anyway, under the Tories.
But yeah, you can think of a client group as any group where there's that sort of connection between the regime and the group.
They kind of feed energy off each other, you know.
The regime, you know, gives them benefits and the group kind of keeps the regime in place.
So you can think of, for example, the Orcs in Lord of the Rings.
They are Sauron's client group.
Um, and under Rishi Sunak it was, well under the Tories it was boomers.
I think there's a reason for this and the reason they've been lost by Labour is because they both buy into boomer truth but what is the exoteric messaging of each group?
So why did the Tories want mass immigration?
Well the reason was always We want to keep increasing the GDP exponentially.
Or to pay the boomer's pension.
Quite, exactly, right?
And the, we're not racist, we have a brown prime minister, was always the defence.
But the advanced position by Labour is, we want to establish Britain as a multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-cultural, come-by-our-nation.
Yes.
And they aren't even pretending that they're trying to, like...
Pay the boomers pensions, because they're saying, we're going to scrap your winter fuel allowance, while not cutting foreign aid.
Oh, you can see the shift, can't you?
The shift is very, very clear, yeah.
They are no longer clients of the state, they vote, which is a problem, and they vote Conservative disproportionately, because people become more conscientious and less mentally ill with age, and that's why they vote Conservative.
And so, immediately, but it's so strange though, I just think Tony Blair Satan bless him, would have been far more subtle about this attack on the boomers than just immediately getting the people who are very likely to vote and taking money away from them.
Well, yes, let me follow this thought through about the client groups a little bit, because of course the client group for the Labour Party used to be...
The white working class.
And they have very visibly jettisoned that over the past few weeks with the sort of riots and the killing of the children and so on.
So their client group is now expressly immigrants to this country.
Well Ash Sarkar after the 2019 election when Jeremy Corbyn actually won more votes than Starmer but lost, redefined working class as ethnic minorities, students and people that basically have no capital.
Well it was John Prescott who asserted that we're all working class now.
Sorry, we're all middle class now.
And there was this case in the 2000s of this guy and his land had been left to the city council as long as it was used to house the working class.
And then they started wanting to sell these houses to middle class people and he took them to court.
And won!
And the argument was, we're all middle class now, what does middle class mean?
And he countered, no, this is what middle class means, this is what working class means, and you either give me the land back, or you put houses for the working class on it.
So, I think you've actually covered this topic, haven't you?
You've tried to explain why Labour went from a position of their client group being the working class to being immigrants, because it seems like a weird shift in the Labour past.
I'm not 100% sure what happened.
Um, but I think the, the most reasonable argument that I've found is that there is, if you are, um, Machiavellian in that way, if you are basically a born traitor, then you, you collaborate with a group that is genetically further from you in order to gain power over the group of which you are part, i.e.
the upper class.
Um, so, that group, in a mono-ethnic society, that group that you collaborate with is the working class, that's the group that you convert your signal with, that's the marginalised.
So early Labour was upper-class people who basically did... It was two, it was three key groups of people.
It was basically upper-class traitors to their own class, like Tony Benn and people like that.
It was Quakers, who were basically sort of lower-middle class, and it was the trade unionist working class.
So the trade unions working class, and particularly, they were just working class people that were acting in their own interests, in their interests, their class.
So someone like Jim Callaghan.
His father was a sailor, he's reasonably intelligent, he goes to grammar school, whatever, he ends up working as a civil servant.
That's someone like that.
Then you have someone like Harold Wilson.
I don't know for sure if his background was Quaker, but it was more lower middle class, parents were teachers, similar thing.
He's operating in the interests of basically his own sort of class.
Yeah.
And then you get the very different kind of person, like Clement Attlee, or Hugh Gaitskell, and these people are upper class, or Michael Foot, and they identify with a class that is a group that is a step away from them, and thus you virtue signal with that, and you get into power.
Now once you have a multi-ethnic society, and the same things happened in America, exactly the same thing once this occurred, then of course there's a new group that's even more marginal than the working class, in a sense, because they're new to the society.
And you then move on and you virtue signal with them, and that group is the immigrant.
And then of course then you start to feel, in general you would expect upper class people to hate the working class, They'd be distant from them, to see them as, sort of, as almost disgusting, as almost bad genetics, almost.
And so they would, then, their revulsion of them could no longer be suppressed, as they use the ethnic minorities to virtue-signal with.
So you see that shift.
So is there something inherent in left-wing people, that they kind of have to be betrayers to their own group?
Well let's distinguish between two, yeah, but let's distinguish between two kinds of left-wing people.
There's the left-wing people that are left-wing because it is in their actual interest to be left-wing because they're poor.
Oh they're low on welfare?
Right, well that kind of people, or Muslims in the UK or whatever.
And then there's the general, and there was a study on this, I think it was Dwight Zeddow, W-A-Y-T-Z, and he finds that the moral circle of Conservatives is a series of concentric, we looked at this in my video on woke eugenics, It's a series of concentric circles around self.
You like your family more than you like your kin.
You like your kin more than you like your class.
You like your class more than you like your ethnic group.
You're ethnically more than race.
Race more than species.
And so on.
And with left-wing people, the moral circle is different.
It's a few steps removed.
So you identify with a different class over your own.
A different ethnic group over your own.
A different race over your own.
And this allows you to gain status in a different way.
It allows you to collaborate with outsiders in order to gain power over your own group.
And leftists tend to be individually oriented.
They tend to be focused on... They tend to be mentally unstable.
They tend to be neurotic.
They tend to... The world is swirling chaos.
They're Machiavellian.
They want to take control of it.
And they're often, if they're low down in the group, will see themselves as low down in the group.
They're not group oriented.
They hate the group.
They hate the symbols of power.
They hate all this because they feel they should have power and they are resentful and they feel disempowered.
And so in that sense, you play for status.
How do you play for status if you're tough and you're powerful?
You've made a fair fight.
That's how you play for sex.
But you can't do that if you're a bit manly.
Yes, masculine right-wing way.
Right.
So you virtue-signal, you purity-signal, and you virtue-signal about quality and harm-avoidance, you collaborate with an outsider group, a different class, different race, whatever, and get power that way.
So I saw an extract from a paper that looked at this, and I think it was doing brain scans of some type.
This is the same paper.
Wait, sit up.
Oh right okay and it literally showed the heat map of a brain as to which bit lights up and you can see when they're asking about self and family and stuff like that people very close to you the right wingers that part of the brain was hot it was glowing red and then when you're asking about you know like the Bantu or something you know that part of the brain was cold they literally empathized with their own Yes, but Left Ringers, it was startling, it was the direct opposite.
The heat map for their own family and the people around them was basically blue, cold, and then the people that were as far removed as possible, like the aliens in Starship Troopers, basically whatever was the furthest removed from themselves, that bit of the brain was glowing red hot.
Exactly, because you're in a situation where there is room for different strategies in order to survive in an ecology.
And the main strategy, of course, is the ethnocentric strategy, that you look after basically yourself first, and then your children first, and then other people in a series of concentric circles.
That's basically the norm that we've been selected for over a very long time.
Obviously, as selection breaks down, as it has done from 50% child mortality to 1,800 to less than 1% today, you're going to get a movement away from that to all kinds of other weird strategies.
And this is the selfish strategy.
This is the person who is mentally unstable.
How do I want to gain power?
Because in prehistory, you have to have power to get women and so forth.
How can I gain power?
I can't do it in a fair fight.
Because only right-wing people can do that.
In a fair fight.
Because right-wing people are bigger, physically bigger, physically tougher, mentally more stable and whatever.
If you're the opposite of that, you're a short, ugly, mentally unstable man, A spiteful mutant.
A mutant, anyway.
You see the world as this swirling chaos.
You want to control it.
You want to gain power.
How do you do so?
Well, one method you can use is to covertly play for status.
How do you do that?
You either purity signal about how morally pure or religious you are, or you collaborate with outsiders.
You're like a Quisling.
You collaborate with outsiders to gain power over So the way I'm understanding this is Labour started off as sort of upper class chaps who cooperated with an outside group, the working class, to gain power over other upper class people, but now Labour Party is basically working class people like Angela Rayner and Jess Phillips and so on, and because of course they can't cooperate with their own group, they can't cooperate with the working class anymore, they have to then reach out to the immigrants.
I think it's a slightly better way of understanding it because if you distinguish Angela Rayner, Yvette Cooper, all that from the aristocrats who lent a cap to the working class in the past is how we say masculine and feminine coded, the same plays for the Republicans and the Democrats, and it's the... if you have compassion for those concentric circles, that sort of Russian nesting doll of your...
evolved in group you are masculine coded because you're rationing your compassion according to resources whereas the present situation of material abundance and technological advancements that keep people alive well beyond when they would have otherwise expired from illness or the like it's very feminine coded so they treat every single out group like they are infants even if it's completely inappropriate yes yes i mean i i will move on from this point about sort of client groups but you know that's an interesting point though you make there calum because i i did a -
We'll do a video while it is.
Well, occasionally, it can happen.
But the way that these women seem to talk about- there's a case in Italy of this, that they talk about these male, you know, refugees that are going around doing all kinds of unspeakable things, is as though they are children.
It's extremely maternal, the language they use.
Right, and I think- I wonder if part of that is that they- It's precisely because they are different, precisely because they are genetically so different, it messes up with the brain's wiring somehow and therefore they see them in these childlike terms.
There was a study which found that we are less able to assess a person's physical fitness from their face if they are a different race from us.
Yes.
And that's because we're not used to, coetzee as Alan was, we're not used to the subtle signals And so you can see that there might be something in that with regard to foreigners?
That is good but I must quickly bring this back on track because just to finish off the point on client groups.
So obviously for the Tories the boomers were the client group.
I mean they were the only people who were sort of voting Tory at the end.
Labour used to have the white working class whereas now they've just got welfare recipients and immigrants and obviously those Venn diagrams sort of overlap quite a bit.
Reform are moving to the position of having the white working class as their client group, although Zoomers might come into that in quite a big way, and Lib Dem client group.
A middle-class... Sandal-wearing... Spreadsheets and chinos.
Yeah, people who block roads, kind of stuff like that, yes.
So anyway, so, look, we don't want high-taxes, infinity Africans and woke nonsense, but the Tories did want those things, and the boomers wanted the Tories, so they had to come under fire.
That's why we've had to be mean to the boomers in the past, and it got to absurd levels.
I mean, you mentioned this, where the Tories were advocating conscription.
The young people to basically wipe all people's bums and die in Ukraine.
It just got absurd in the end.
But anyway, but now we've got Labour and they want everything the Tories wanted plus crushing our will and they have to go now.
You know, they need to gone.
But they want it on behalf of foreigners not boomers.
Yes.
Yes, well they've shrunk their client base to insufferable metropolitans and colonists, effectively.
So now they have to go.
So, you know, what we need to do is we need to expand our circle of friends from, you know, it's got to be the white working class that have been abandoned,
And then if we can get the insufferable Millennials who are currently going through their 20 phase of oh, I'll look at me I'm in London I'm earning lots of money and I have fashionable opinions if we can get them in a pincer movement between boomers and zoomers With the white working-class coming up the middle like the cavalry then then we can we can take 2029 probably in favor of reform if they can actually sort their act out I don't know if they can but
They see my recent interview with Ben Habeeb on why they've got to build a lot of infrastructure and actually recruit some half-decent candidates next time around as well.
We know what we want.
We don't want infinity Africans, we don't want the woke stuff, we don't want high taxes, and we don't want, you know, the state stamping on our face all the time.
So if we can build some sort of coalition, and the boomers are in it, they are our friends now.
So this was expressed nicely by Morgoth, yes.
So for those of you who are listening, on the left we have A sort of insufferable laughing boomer because he's busy voting for Infinity Africans.
Has a holiday home in Cornwall that he turns into an Airbnb.
Yes.
Blowing the inheritance as fast as he can on cruises.
Telling you to pull yourself up by the bootstraps.
That was the old image of the boomer.
The new one... Oh, isn't she sweet?
It's very Soviet, even.
Lovely little old lady who had her fuel turned off in the winter.
In order to fund more migrant hotels.
Yes.
No, these people are our friends now.
So as Morgoth said, how we frame the Boomers under the Tories and how we frame the Boomers under Starma.
So this is good.
Because whenever I've mentioned Boomers in the past...
And obviously we're not talking about all boomers, we're talking about client groups.
The majority of boomers wanted the Tories and therefore... With regard to zero seats though, it was very interesting that Peter Hitchens on the one hand, okay, it's perfectly acceptable to just dismiss him as a perpetually grumpy contrarian.
Yeah, and told you to go goon.
Just whatever.
But he, they were, they were... No, he actually did.
He actually did.
Check out his tweets.
He said do goon.
But he and other people that commented on this, like David Starkey, did turn out to be correct that what has happened so quickly is that the Labour government are so much worse than the Conservatives.
Okay, yes, the Conservatives didn't make any change in terms of immigration or whatever, but they are so obviously authoritarian, nasty, hateful, wicked people, and all it took was one mini-crisis to cause this soulless robot to start stamping.
to start stamping on our faces forever.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
And that's all it's...
So they were right about that.
In campaigning for zero seats, we have helped to bring about something much, much worse.
Yeah, but what they didn't understand is, yes, they were right about that, and that was kind of the point of zero seats.
Well, accelerationists.
Well, it's not just accelerationists, Because the Conservative Party have been doing this under RICO.
I mean, remember, the Conservative government in 2011 put the Home Office gaslighting body on steroids and developed Don't Look Back on Anger as a targeted strategy to obfuscate from their immigration policy.
Well, the Tories had to be destroyed so that a proper right-wing party can emerge.
But no, I'm very happy about this change because in the past I would mention BOOM as the client group.
Um, and then, and then boomers in our audience would think that I was talking about all of them, including them personally, and they would do that thing where they activate their caps locks and then sort of angrily sort of rant out, uh, you know, a whole block paragraph, no grammar, which I don't think is acceptable because you went to school at a time when you actually taught grammar, so don't do the bloody caps lock.
When they did English Language at School, it wasn't writing stories and stuff like we did English Language at School, it was actually linguistics.
So there really is no excuse for turning the caps locks on and just angrily ranting at me because I was talking about the client group, not the individuals.
But anyway, it doesn't matter now because you're all friends.
So if you're booming, I'm giving you a virtual hug because you're one of us now.
You are now a friend-client group as we go after Labour.
So, you know, you're all excellent.
Thank you very much.
And everyone else, remember to be kind to the old people because they're lovely and look at them and they're freezing in the cold because they haven't got any heating.
Excellent.
Right, we've got some rumble rants.
Um, I have been informed by our producer, Ed, that you've got your jacket tag on the... Oh yeah.
Very stylish.
Uh, so we've got $10 from the Shadow Band.
Always good to see Ed on the show.
Excellent.
$5 from the Last Russian.
Was great to meet you at Skildings, Professor Dutton, even if you disapproved of my Russian genetics and mutant status.
Hello, Herman!
And he says, says the left-hander.
Great speech, very entertaining and memorable.
Thank you.
I presume that's going to be up on Jolly Heretic soon, the speech.
Um, if they send it to- I think they're doing the 2023 ones first, they haven't even put those out yet.
Right, okay.
And then, you know, I'm sure.
And then, uh, O-F-P-H-U-K, that study about different parts of the brain lighting up has to be a lie unless they just don't have brains.
Um, that's just not true, is it?
Leftists are more intelligent than rightists on average, so this is- Really?
Yeah, because obviously intelligence is associated with conformity and social conformity.
You look around the world, you notice the way of the world and you imbibe it and force yourself to believe it and then competitively signal it.
And so therefore intelligent people will be more leftist in a leftist society and more right-wing in a more right-wing society.
What does this bell curve mean?
No, that's a different thing.
That's the idea that working class people, like the low IQ people and the very high IQ people are based.
Which is probably true, but that doesn't militate against the general sort of weak line.
Oh, I see.
Whereby the... I always thought lefties were a bit thick, but I see what you're saying.
They're using their intelligence.
Midwits are the majority.
The midwit, the midwit.
You've got to remember the midwit as opposed to the very, very clever autistic person who...
Anyway, tell us about Zoomers.
Excellent.
Well, Germany's had some problems in the last, well, nearly 100 years or so, but let's narrow it down to the last 10 ever since Mother Merkel said Vishuffendus and opened the world up to the benefits of diversity like gang rapes and stabbing.
So now the German Zoomers, who have basically grown up with this, and that's all they ever know, are sick to death of it and decided, as we found out on Monday, to vote en masse for the AFD and the establishment right-wing media, or at least nominally right-wing in this country, I'm talking about the Times, the Telegraph, the Spectator, who really want to contain I'm talking about the Times, the Telegraph, the Spectator, who really want to contain the existing order that the likes of the Tory party So I'm going to take you through some of the reasons why the Zoomers are engaging in a rebellion.
It kind of connects to your previous segment on Boomer Truth, Dan.
Why they don't essentially feel the insistence on proving your anti-racist credentials.
Oh, that spell doesn't work on them.
It's waned over time.
Yes.
Yes.
So, cast your minds back about two weeks now.
There was a diversity festival, great irony, and a Syrian chap showed up from the local asylum centre and got a bit stabby, and so he decided to stab, I think, killed three people and stabbed about eight more.
A 26-year-old Syrian man identified as Issa al-Haith, German police, decided to storm the asylum centre and he decided to confess to the crime.
So, diversity at a diversity festival, doing very diverse things.
Islamic State did claim- Literally, I mean, it was just, you couldn't meme it.
Yeah, you didn't need to.
Cut the throats of eight people, I believe, eight people, and feel them die.
Yes.
Yeah.
Islamic State claimed credit for this, but at this point, I mean, they don't need a sort of centrally organised nexus to do so.
They've got so many of their ideologically aligned, low-impulse control allies dispersed across Europe.
It doesn't even matter.
They don't even need to centrally plan it.
You've just got these nutcases.
Well, when you say low-impulse control, hang on.
I think doing something like that involves high-impulse control.
It involves biding your time, waiting until it's the right time, and then going for it and cutting people's throats.
It involves planning.
It involves basically being a psychopath.
That, but also there are so many stabbings happening...
Oh, just random ones.
Exactly.
So it just becomes white noise.
Like, they don't even need to centrally plan this anymore.
They can just let diversity play out, centrally.
Which is a sad state of affairs, but that's something that's been inflicted on Germany.
So, the German government, the Greens, under Olaf Scholz, decided to do Afghan deportations.
So this is, this was last Friday.
There was a flight from Leipzig, and it was carrying 28 Afghan men, just 28, on board a Boeing 787 to Kabul.
What the BBC didn't report is that each of these men were paid £1,000 to sweeten the deal, to stop them from actually protesting their own deportation.
So the flights were paid for by the German taxpayer, all of their benefits while they were here was paid for by the German taxpayer, and they got £1,000 spending money at duty free.
To be fair, it's still probably a good deal, but... Yeah, but the thing is they're just gonna come straight back.
Well, yes.
Because they always blooming do, because they can't keep them out the country permanently.
And bear in mind, some of these people had committed heinous crimes, as detailed in here.
So, most of them were sexual offenders, including a man who had raped an 11-year-old girl at a park, and another man who took part in a gang rape of a 14-year-old girl in 2019.
He's been there for five years.
Why?
Why did you pay him?
In a more civilised age, we just used to hang these people.
Yeah, quite.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Anyway, can't do that anymore, apparently.
Also, another thing that annoyed everyone in Germany, which is why they might vote AFD, it turns out all of these so-called refugees were taking holidays back in Afghanistan.
So they were going on their jollies.
Thousands of them, apparently, this is according to a German television station, the Afghans mentioned in their report have been able to return to Afghanistan with the help of blue passports handed out by German authorities to refugees who don't hold any form of identification from their home country.
Because they destroyed it, in a way.
Well, yeah, quite.
I've joked before that, obviously, underneath the channel there's like a coral reef of discarded documents.
I think that's the reason why people's loods get blocked sometimes, it's just so many passports.
Yes, either Greek plumbing or faulty passports.
About 60,000 Afghans in Germany have received such passports already, and also of the 250,000 people eligible for deportation, only 16,000 were sent back last year.
Why are they just stockpiling Afghan rapists?
For a rainy day?
I'd love to know.
I'd love for the Germans to be able to tell me.
Well, for a sunny day, where there's a long night and women will walk home alone, as happens in Oulu in Northern Finland, where I live.
Especially if there's a festival.
A festival, something like that, and then they can be stockpiled.
Or for a New Year's celebration.
In perhaps Cologne.
And then they can be sent out on that occasion to frighten the ladies.
Yes.
Sort of a new patriarchy, really.
Patriarchy, the traditional German or English patriarchy is broken down and therefore women are able to be sexually free and so forth and so it's as if we've decided to institute, or certain kinds of women, like Angela Merkel, some peculiar women that don't have children, have decided to institute a new system of control.
Well in certain areas of Paris, women, I've been seeing articles, women have been coming to the realisation, if I want to go out alone, I'm going to have to put a headscarf on.
Is that or stay home?
Well, Tom Holland's Dominion's quite good on this.
It's that, predating the Christian patriarchy, where service was mutual, and you had marriage to protect women, the interests of children, and the most vulnerable in society, you had Roman patriarchy, where the most victorious soldier just decided to rape the daughters of noblemen in the middle of the street.
And so, I think you're going to get male domination, whether you like it or not, just whether or not the man himself is considerate of women and children, or if he, at his Power and pleasure just takes what he likes, and I think that's what's being imported.
Well, that's it.
There's two kinds of- there's the patriarchy that's developed in the West, which is, yeah, women will say- the man will say, I want sex.
The woman will say, I want investment.
And you have, then, this quid pro quo.
But that also- patriarchy also involves chivalry.
It involves deference.
It involves things like going down on one knee to propose.
Or holding the door open.
Or holding the door open.
It involves women being looked after, seen as weaker, a kind of kindly chauvinism if you will.
And that's not really what you have with the earlier kinds of patriarchy, with the Islamic kind of patriarchy.
I think that it lacks the going down on one knee deference element.
I'm sure there's variations with different kinds of Islam.
Yeah, yeah.
More sort of what the right hand owns.
It's very much immigration becoming a women's safety issue, as one would say.
Anyway, please don't move things with the... I've lost my script.
Wait.
Similar things happening in Britain.
Over here.
So, we got these stats in Britain the other day.
Record numbers of migrants who are actually living in Britain are jobless.
More than 1.6 million are unemployed or economically inactive, and it's costing us about £8 billion.
So that's 1,689,000 non-UK nationals, either unemployed or classed as economically inactive, and currently aren't looking for jobs.
The figure is only for the second quarter of 2024.
2024 surpasses the previous highs of 1,676,000 at the start of last year and the 1,628,000 from early 2012, according to the ONS.
So Infinity Africans doesn't actually make GDP go up, it just makes unemployment benefits Well, considering the GDP of African countries where these people came from, turns out they just import the same work ethic.
It's not just economic and educational circumstances that make human beings, it's human beings that make those circumstances.
And also, even when they argue that, oh, we need these people to help run the National Health Service or whatever, even if that's true, one of the things that is noticed is that these Immigrants are highly over-represented in terms of NHS investigations for malpractice.
The 2.5 times.
And such like, okay.
And also we know that the standards of a medical school in the University of the Congo is, I'm afraid, or whatever it's called, is not going to be the same as even the standards at a dreadful medical school here.
So you're importing basically bad doctors and bad nurses who are more likely to be investigated for malpractice.
So even your justification for it, putting aside the fact that it's clearly costing a lot of money and pushing up house prices so it's unaffordable for Generation Z, people that want to have a reasonable lifestyle with their parents or whatever, they're not even very good on average.
So I was sat next to somebody at dinner at the Witton who does HR for a very large organisation, so they've got thousands and thousands of employees.
And they got sold on this sort of big data process and they decided to take it into HR and what they wanted to do is look for patterns in the people who give them problems at work.
You know, people who cause sexual harassment claims and don't work particularly well and all that kind of stuff.
So anyway, they ran the numbers and they got some very clear signals on basically who was causing the problem in this organisation and it got buried so fast under such a tonne of concrete because, well, basically it said what you think it's going to say.
Well, even The Guardian found that 700 Nigerian nurses have committed qualifications fraud this year.
That's just a drop in the bucket.
Bear in mind, only 3% of migrants in the last year came even on a health and social care visa, and they were dwarfed by the number of dependents they brought as well, so no, not particularly beneficial.
I think I read that, is it something like 40% or 30% of Indian doctors are not actually qualified doctors?
And that goes up to even doctors that are working in quite prestigious private hospitals in India.
Significant proportions of them are medical school dropouts or people that are qualified nurses that tend to be doctors and things like this.
Well another depressing thing about these stats by the way is that these stats Only cover 16 to 64 year olds who were born overseas, who have the right to live in the UK, so it doesn't count, students obviously come over on the student visa and disappear into the Deliveroo economy, or asylum seekers.
So we've got an extra 130,000 of those costing us upwards of 14 billion a year as well.
And this Deliveroo economy, as a person who doesn't live in this country, and I don't see it as much where I live, I mean, how lazy are you people that you can't be bothered to go to the Indian takeaway, pick up your food, and take it home?
Don't buy from them anyway.
At this point, don't buy from any businesses from the subcontinent, because you don't know who they're hiring.
You just don't.
Just abstain from it.
Don't use Uber, don't use Deliveroo, don't use any foreign restaurant.
Why don't you just cook your own food?
Yes.
Quite.
Exactly.
I did a sort of summary on this in a recent article I did that's a useful compendium.
For example, did you know that 74% of all the jobs that have been created in this country since 2011 have gone to foreign workers?
Things like that.
So you can look at the sort of economics of immigration over in the UK as a test case for what's happening in Germany as well.
But anyway, back to Germany.
So the Zoomers have clocked onto this and the Spectator, which confusing at this point, literally Douglas' columns are the only thing worth reading in there, are complaining about the far-right winning in Germany.
They've got some stats here on how the Zoomers particularly voted.
Yes.
We'll see some headlines shortly, but this is the breakdown for the actual Zoomers, right?
So the AFD got 33% in Thuringia, and up 10% for the last five years, and 30% in Saxony.
I think they came second place in Saxony, only up 3%.
But still, good gains.
According to the data published by Pollsters, 38% of those between 18 to 24 voted for the AFD in Thuringia.
In neighbouring Saxony, 31% did the same.
In both states, the party was able to increase its vote share among this age group by at least 11% to become the most popular party with young Germans.
Vibes with how Reform UK was the most popular party among young men in the last election.
Labour still being the most popular party.
I mean, 30% is a big number.
I know there's a different system over here, but if you were to get 30% of the population in this country, you'd win by a landslide.
Well, Sama only had 34% of the total, didn't he?
Yeah.
Yes.
So, you'd easily win.
The problem in this country is sofa voters.
I mean, the majority of people just don't bother.
You'd certainly be able to come second.
Hmm.
So, I mean, it's an interesting thing, though, that these young people who are your kind of age, whatever, they've never really known their own society as a relatively homogenous society.
I mean, when we were kids, there were basically no non-English people on TV.
There was occasionally Lenny Henry or Frank Bruno, but that was about it.
And your life has been just constantly being bombarded with this unreality that the world is... England is multicultural.
What is it that makes these Generation Z people that have never known England Want to bring it about?
Because we look at something like love actually and it looks almost nostalgic, basically.
Right.
And we feel that we've been deprived of the opportunity to have the same living standards of our parents despite doing everything right, despite getting married, wanting to have families, wanting to save up for deposits and the like.
We've had that taken away from us and we also, because we grew up in very multicultural schools, we can recognise cultural differences.
so as soon as we're demanded to say that oh all people are equal and everyone's exactly the same it's just racism causing crime we're like no like i went to the school with the african kids who didn't like other african kids and the like so you can't tell me and i'm looking at tick tock all the time and seeing the exact same perpetrator every time i scroll so you can't tell me yeah you're less controlled in the information that you imbibe as well because we used to have the telly and the radio and that's it you know and you've you've a very young age
you're computer literate and you're able to look at this stuff and just it must must be weird though to sit at school well i would trust my teachers to a certain extent and trust authorities and even trust the Yeah, we used to think that they knew what they were talking about.
Yeah, yeah, auntie Beeb, you know.
Yes, but there was no counter-narrative at all.
But he's brought up to very quickly think, my teachers are lying to me.
Well loads of them as well, like fresh out of uni graduates who aren't particularly smart.
So if you're a young, disagreeable, slightly autistic male, then you're just gonna say, well that's bollocks isn't it?
And then you get sent out of the class a lot.
Sorry everyone who ever taught me, I suppose.
But anyway, so we have a visual representation of this, how the AFD are doing.
I mean that's just quite nice isn't it?
That's pretty thundering.
Well done, German Zoomers.
Is the light blue girls?
The light blue is AFD for all Zoomers.
No, no, no, there's two.
There's two, look.
Oh.
Last year.
Is that last year?
No, that must be the last five years.
Oh, yeah.
So the five years.
The important thing is you say girls.
This is also a winning strategy.
Why has this happened among Zoomers?
Well, it's because there are two trends going on among the German youth.
The first is this song that everyone has heard.
This was a very recent one after the election.
We got a talking to on the opening speech of the Witten, do not sing Auslander Rouse, because we're on a university campus.
Well it's 100% going to happen at the Conservative Party Conference this year, and I'm calling it now, and every Tory Party leadership candidate, other than maybe Gemma, will fall over themselves to condemn it, but that's going to happen at a fringe event.
Yeah.
Without doubt.
And the interesting thing about that... Do you know which one?
I'll go to it.
Well, I'm banned.
If you noticed, gents, that wasn't loads of boisterous blokes singing that, as it usually is.
Lots of female voices.
Even Angela Rayner's getting in on the fun.
- Getting in on the phone.
- Oh yeah, there she is. - That's a mashup, surely.
It's obviously an edit, don't worry.
Don't throw me in prison for misinformation, Keir Starmer.
It is a fantastic edit though, I love it.
There are lots of other women that are actually in on this, and the reason is there's a TikTok trend going round.
My favourite independent journalist, Kimi Drucker, has enlightened me to this.
Basically, the same guy that did Ausländer Raus, the original song for that, has done a song called Blah Blah Blah in the 90s.
There's a guy called Gigi D'Costino.
He's Italian, but it's sort of taken off in Germany because it's all Europop, isn't it?
And there are a bunch of women on TikTok changing the lyrics to AFD Deutschland Party AFD.
Right.
I won't pretend to understand the sort of female attention economy, but I think she is very fetching. .
She's also... She's young enough to be your daughter.
She's coordinated her fingernails with her bra.
Oh, lovely.
Again, female attention economy.
Won't understand it, but... She's thought it through.
But the fact that this is now high status signalling for women to essentially get attention online means that the cultural currents are going towards the right in Germany.
Oh yeah, who was it you kept on saying that culture is downstream of whatever hot chicks want?
Mary Harrington.
Right, okay, there we go.
She was right.
It's also, look, not all the critical theories are right off the stamp on the personality matters.
That's fascinating, because with the church ladies and whatever in Victorian England... Yes.
A culture became really Christian and right-wing and conservative and anti-sex and all the hot chicks in their bodices and whatever they were wearing wanted that.
The little frumpy hats.
Yeah, yeah, they wanted that because of course there was the problem of syphilis and God knows what and that's what they wanted and that's what they got.
So if we can just get the hot young chicks with their bra-coordinated fingernails to, um... We could save Western civilisation.
Which would mean promoting immigration as a feminist issue to do with women's safety.
That's what's happening in France.
This is why there's a 13-point swing among young women for Bardella and Le Pen.
It's because all the French feminists are going, yeah, there is a rape culture.
It's among imported Afghans and Africans.
It's like, yeah, that's kind of true.
And there's multiple examples of this.
I'm not going to go through all of them because, again, I'm not Peter Hitchens.
Don't goon.
But there's just endless... She's got a tattoo.
She's mental.
Yeah, I don't like the tattoo.
No, no, no.
And there's too much eye line.
And her lips might be fake.
Yeah.
Yes.
I mean, I think she could be pretty if she made different lifestyle choices.
But, number one, alt girls do appeal to a certain subset of men.
Number two, they also, as an aesthetic, appeal to a certain subset of women.
Has she got a septum ring?
Has she got a septum ring?
I think she does, yeah.
Oh, for God's sake!
Again, not my, not my thing, but it does show the cultural currents are going in a particular way, and I think that's encouraging, at least.
Do you get to hear her sing?
Uh, you know, she doesn't sing, it's all lip-syncing.
Oh.
It's TikTok, Dan.
It used to be, what was it, Musical.ly, where it was just a lip-syncing app?
Again, I don't understand any of this.
Oh, I've got a TikTok.
I've got a Ti- I only follow one account, though.
Who is it?
It's this lovely Spanish girl, and she tries to say English words, but she can't quite do it, so she says things like, Hippopotamus!
And it's like, it's, oh, I'll show you it, like, it's brilliant.
Dirty old man!
No, no, no.
She's just trying to learn English.
Come on, mate.
We're in our mid-forties.
I mean, you know, this is... No, no, no.
It's... Anyway, before Dan's half of the desk raises up...
We should look at all the other media that really hates this stuff because this is a sort of organic groundswell of particularly young Gen Z women noticing that their life is under threat or young Gen Z men looking at, I don't know, the economy and their ability to own a house and realizing, oh I'm getting taxed to high heaven to pay for Tom Dick and Abdul's dependents, no thank you very much.
Well the Spectator and the like don't really like that people are noticing that and the same author that wrote about Gen Z's recent election results had written an article ahead of the election Saying, is Germany's far-right about to go mainstream?
Now, if any, let's say, ostensibly right-wing publication uses the term far-right, they're enemies.
Because they can't actually define it.
Because the AFD are not even remotely far-right.
Mass deportations is not a Nazi policy.
Also, the AFD are remarkably market liberals.
So they're just sort of, I don't know, Bill Clinton from the 90s, really.
They're rather tepid.
But she's writing in here.
In Berlin alone, right?
And she scratches her head as to why the AfD are being voted for.
In Berlin alone, burglaries are up a third in a year, serious bodily harm is at an all-time high, and police say 40% of all crime suspects are foreign nationals.
Police are calling for extra tools to handle a new wave of knife crime from a new type of criminal.
There is plenty to point to for those arguing that Germany's economic and political models are broken.
Where could this new type of criminal have come from?
I wonder if far-right conspiracy outlet Politico might be able to help us.
Number of criminal acts in Germany rose 6% last year compared to 2022.
The authorities attribute this increase to higher levels of migration.
While foreigners make up 15% of Germany's population, they accounted for a record 41% of all crimes in 2023.
That's only born abroad people.
That's born abroad.
Not even second generation migrants which commit crimes at comparable levels to their forebears if you look at studies from Denmark and the Netherlands and the like.
Crime that authorities attributed to foreign suspects rose by 23% in 2022 and 18% in 2023 according to government statistics.
That's obviously the only thing to get recorded as well and we know that a lot of the time as for that recent gang rape article, gang rape case where an article said that the lawyer had gotten multiple of the perpetrators off because she argued they were poor and therefore just had to gang rape some young girl um so they didn't receive prison time so that's wonderful also the number of violent incidents involving a knife like the one in syria or the one in uh what was the one in may where an afghan went and stabbed a policeman there's hundreds of them now isn't there yeah it was horrific and on video um
the number of violent incidents involving a knife rose 40 percent from 2021 to 2023 hitting 14 000 So, line go up, I suppose.
But anyway, back to the Spectator to solve this complete mystery of why the young people would vote for the AFD.
The success the AFD is having in Germany with youth is striking.
It was the second most popular party with under-25s in June's European parliamentary election.
Its parliamentary party has 456,000 followers on TikTok.
The Saxony branch has 220,000.
The AFD's main competition in the state, the Christian Democratic Union, has 1,530 followers on their regional account.
And the Greens nearly very well didn't make it past the 5% threshold in multiple areas that actually got them back into Parliament, despite being the governing party.
So, you see that overweight woman that was their leader, with her lip quivering and crying?
The lip quiver was edited in, but the actual crying was real.
Oh, was it?
Yeah.
In either way, it's hilarious.
I mean, I... Yeah, I just... It really does validate your theory of these fat, ugly, insecure people all voting left-wing, doesn't it?
I mean, considering the sort of women we were seeing promoting the AFD, there you go.
They're also very upset about the fact that social media has been ablaze with the hashtag, Quote, either Hocker or Solingen.
Um, this is the chap- I never saw Solingen.
What's that again?
That was the Diversity Festival.
Oh.
Yes.
It's some kind of vitamin that you have when you're a child.
That's Sanatogen.
Yes, that could be that.
Uh, this is the chap that was elected in Thuringia.
His slogan is deport, deport, deport.
And they're complaining, this runs the argument, and he's saying it's the only way of preventing more Islamist attacks.
Oh, how horrible.
The far right wants to deport foreign criminals who commit sex offences and stab people at festivals.
Yes.
Oh dear, how could this be allowed to happen?
Women and children can be safe when they go outside.
Yeah, how dare you protect women from foreign criminals?
The Times was really upset as well.
Here was their front page on Monday.
Germany's far right has first big win since the Nazis.
Yeah, that's annoying.
What a disgraceful headline.
Yeah.
Well, they obviously can't call them Nazis because they'd be sued for defamation, so they're just making the insinuation.
They're hoping that you smuggle it in if they make the sort of semantical... It's not much of an insinuation.
It's not much of an insinuation, is it?
It's a direct statement that the far right are the same as the Nazi party.
Yeah, quite.
Also the Telegraph wrote this, the far-right's victory may tear Germany apart again.
Right, okay, it's the far-right response to the migrant thefts, rapes and stabbings.
What the hell does that mean?
Does that mean that the far-right victory will cause the undoing of Germany, the undoing of Bismarck?
What, the pre-1870s 32 states?
They'll re-organise them.
Is that what it means?
Or does it mean post-war East and West?
Is that what it means?
It means that basically all the other parties, like in France against the National Rally, are going to team up against the AFD to stop them from getting in.
So the AFD still existing will prevent that overarching agreed-upon consensus who want infinity immigrants from remaining in power.
The left's desperation to destroy their own nation.
Yeah, but tear Germany apart again implies it's previously been torn apart.
Oh, so we went to Poland at the end of World War I, didn't it?
Well, with that corridor.
I think they're probably referring to a period in the late 30s, maybe the 1940s.
No, but the journey wasn't torn apart.
No, the journey's been torn apart in the sense of post-war East and West Germany.
Or, as you say, post-World War I, that Russian bit that was over here.
I think we need to get the green pen out and mark his article because he's made a lot of errors.
He's made a lot of errors here, this Michael Mosbacher.
Yes.
Yeah, not exactly the best piece.
Again, remember, Telegraph.
Usually completely okay with this stuff in the UK.
Completely beyond the pale in Germany.
If you have a beard like that, you should probably dye those white bits.
Anyway, because the media behave like this, the AFD just banned them from their election party, so they can sing Auslander Raus in peace.
And I don't blame them.
As my good friend Harrison Pitt recently said, why is there no quote-unquote far-right figure like Tommy Robinson in Hungary?
Why isn't there one?
Isn't that funny?
Isn't that all there is?
There's a Prime Minister.
Yeah, but it's not exactly the... Okay, let's put it this way.
Victor Orban is not a Luton fan, right?
There's no need for... He's not a Luton fan, he's Wolves.
There's no need for, like, street-level football activism.
And the reason is, in that country, they don't import stabby, rapey, tax-feeding foreigners.
So they don't actually have a quote-unquote far-right.
So if you would have dealt with these problems, the AFD wouldn't even be necessary.
But Hungary knows what happens if...
You have a left-wing government.
So there was this guy just after World War One or whatever, Hayley something or other, and he just basically declared, okay, I'm a pacifist, I'm going to abolish the army.
And he abolished the army, so then he was invaded in all directions, from Czechoslovakia, from Romania, from God knows what.
So then the communists, he was overthrown, and the communists came in to try to fight this off, and then they were overthrown, and then you had a fascist dictatorship.
So, Hungary knows what happens if you have insane left-wing people in charge.
Um, which is that you get invaded.
Yeah, and the two areas that voted AFD, turns out, they were under East Germany.
So, almost like they- And we are definitely being invaded.
Yeah, so, um, good luck to the German Zoomers for reclaiming your country.
Um, you might not necessarily have another five years to completely right the ship, but hopefully you can exert enough pressure on the government to actually deport people rather than just paying them to go back to Afghanistan for a holiday.
Right, and come on, British Zoomers, get with the programme.
But, um, Afghanistan, I'm given the impression by a certain person that used to be on this, um, on one of the lotus eaters, is a reasonably safe place where you can just go on holiday.
And that being the case, is there really... No, Afghanistan.
So, is it really, do they really need to be in the UK?
I mean, basically it's now safe there.
In fact, I was talking to an Uber driver the other night, who is from Afghanistan, and he came here in 1979, and now, and only now, he's saying, yeah, I'm gonna go back there, it's safe.
Taliban made it safe.
Right, before we move on to the next one we've got a couple of rumble rants.
Keith Kaiser for $5.
According to Politico, Reform UK were polled on the 29th of August at 21%.
Conservatives were polled at 20%.
Reform UK are now polling as the actual opposition party, not the Tories.
Yes, unfortunately because of Ofcom rules they don't get as much media coverage and also they're not going to get as many questions in the Commons.
What they need really is effective spokesmen from outside the parliamentary party, like Ben Habib has served as a good role doing so, even though he's not endorsed by the party anymore, and to form a kind of shadow cabinet of king's courtly advisers to Nigel to make sure they've got all their bases covered and they aren't just...
I mean, it's fine to be a single issue party on migration, but to actually table legislation, Nigel can't do it all himself.
And the last Russian says, Professor Dutton, I have a very funny Indian doctor headline compilation video with a fun soundtrack here.
He said he'll tweet it at you or something, so... Thank you very much, I shall look forward to looking at that.
Anyway, onward with physiognomy.
Ed Dutton, you're going to give us a 20 minute lesson on why you can judge people by what they look like.
Am I?
Yes.
I wish I'd been told it'd be 20 minutes.
I mean, feel free to ask questions.
Ask me a stimulating question.
I'll do.
Why don't we get a, you know, a very short... Because you wrote a book about it, didn't you?
I did.
I mean, I... This whole idea seems... This idea that you shouldn't judge people by what they look like.
You can't judge a book by its cover.
No, you can judge people by what they look like, because what people's personalities and intelligence are like, the brain is about 84% of the genome.
People's personalities are affected by things like various hormones and mutational load and all kinds of different factors.
And this will obviously be reflected, then, in what they look like, and it indeed is.
And also, even with something as simple as intelligence, you can say, well, what is an example of someone who's not particularly intelligent?
Well, that would be, let's say, somebody who has Down Syndrome.
They look a particular way.
Why?
Because the normal developmental pathways have been interfered with, and so you can see, then, this relationship, or alcohol, whatever, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, same thing.
the developmental pathways have been interfered with at a certain point, leading to a lost intelligence and certain physical manifestations.
Now, similarly, intelligence is weakly associated with basically looking more similar to, let's say, a person that has Down syndrome, i.e. small eyes, sort of wide face, small nose, than a person that is more intelligent.
But in the normal range, it's just in a more subtle kind of a way.
So it makes, of course, the ancients tend to be right about these things.
The ancients, if Chaucer can't retails, looks into physiognomy, and they are correct.
You can't, obviously, it's difficult to go up to someone and just totally judge them by appearance, but if they are an extreme case of lots of different markers, then you can probably be within a reasonable chance.
And that makes evolutionary sense, because of course we had to be able to do that.
So women, for example, it is more easy to judge a man's intelligence from what he looks like than a woman's.
Why?
Because women had to be able to judge a man's intelligence from what he looked like, because they have to be able to assess whether this person is a suitable mate.
I particularly like that the reading age on this book is 12 to 18 so you can- I didn't put that in!
That's a new stupid thing that Amazon- because I self-published this because it's a short book.
That's a new thing they've put in, this weird reading.
I did not put that in.
I published this like years ago, 2018 or something.
Just to make the point that it isn't just- this isn't just Ed things, this is widely accepted science.
So here's a new scientist article basically going into physiognomy and about how it's really a thing but we don't want their takes because- You can certainly judge these things with greater accuracy than would be predicted by chance.
So if you want to look at something like masculinization, then being high in testosterone is associated with a number of markers.
It's associated with a darker Darker pigment, within race I mean, darker pigment, darker skin, because that's reflective of high testosterone.
It's associated with narrow eyes, so whereas women tend to have big eyes, wide eyes, that's oestrogen that is, they tend to have narrow eyes, they will tend to have sort of small noses, wider face, and so someone like Donald Trump, and also testosterone is associated with losing your hair, so men that go bald young will probably be higher in testosterone.
I'll tell you what, I'm gonna give you a quiz.
So, watch the screen.
Right, what is that telling us?
Well, I mean, all of these things are comparative, and you found that earlier because we wanted a comparison.
But this would be a relatively low T man.
For those who are listening, this is David Tennant.
Right, and you can see that he has, so he has a relatively long face.
He doesn't have a wide face, he has a long face.
Interestingly, a long face has been found to be weakly associated with intelligence, as has a long nose.
But he has a long face look.
He has quite large eyes, which is a marker of low testosterone.
I don't know how old he is, but he's got a full head of hair.
That's a marker, controlling for age, of low testosterone.
His face shape is not particularly... So if your hair starts to recede a bit, that means you've got high testosterone?
Well, on average it is associated with it.
So, men will, men like our friend Bo.
Yes.
You know, Pooch Bo.
Yes.
Um, Heighty Bo.
Pooper Chad.
Yeah, Pooper Chad Bo.
Yeah, lost his hair at a very young age.
based right so so um but then on the other hand he's got dark hair so dark hair is weakly associated with higher t and dark eyes but you can see that the fate the shape of the chin it's slightly masculinizes that square bit of the bottom it's like a completely feminine chin but it's quite small unpronounced sort of chin but circular it's it's it's a it's a low t that is a low t um um face um
Um, and also he's got his button showing under his tie, which is particularly ridiculous.
Um, but, but, um, yeah, that's, that's that.
Whereas you're now going to show me the opposite.
Challenge two.
Right, now this is exactly the opposite.
So you can see that he- this is a very- For those who are listening, this is Wayne Rooney on the screen.
He's- right, so what have we got with this guy?
So he's got a wide face, right?
High testosterone.
He's got narrow eyes.
Narrow lips as well.
Now, women tend to have bigger lips than- than- than men.
Narrow- narrow lips.
He's got this small little nose.
It's also like a- like a not particularly high IQ face as well.
Um, and he's very- And that's a high IQ factor?
No, it's not.
It's the opposite.
Oh, right.
Okay.
He's got a small, uh, little sort of button nose, whatever you call it.
Um, and he's got this very- It's English.
And it's very, very manly chin.
And you can see he's got a receding hairline.
And as my understanding was that he had a hair transplant, that guy.
Um, because he was going bald.
Why?
Because he was high T.
So that is a stereotypical.
I think also it's quite short.
And there's some evidence that people that are high T tend to be shorter.
Because in high T, you grow up in a fast ecology, like live fast, die young.
So then you grow up quickly, you reach your peak quickly, and you stop growing.
You put more energy into sex than growth.
In evolutionary terms, among animals and plants, it's sex or growth.
Which one?
This would explain his very arselective mating habits, then, with people other than his wife.
So why do women respond so well to tall men, then, if it's a counter-indicator?
Because the other thing that height is an indicator of is genetic health.
It's a bit like a peacock's tail.
It's saying, my genes are so good that even all of the diseases and whatever that life has thrown at me, I have bioenergetic resources left over to grow tall.
So it's an honesty signal of genetic health to be tall.
I see.
OK, right.
Now, I'm now going to throw up and you can tell us what you see here.
This is, for those who are listening, Mike Philpott, the lifelong criminal who actually burnt some of his kids to try and get a bigger house.
Well, he had 17 kids and he burnt six of them.
So he's still got 11 left.
He's still going to pass on a lot of his genes.
So again, you see the evidence of a heighty and therefore impulsive and aggressive and so on male.
He's bald, obviously.
I think he's in his mid-50s there.
But he's still pretty bald.
He's got, again, you see the narrow eyes, right?
His face is quite wide.
It's not like as wide as Rooney's.
But it's not a particularly horsey-type long face.
The nose is incongruous.
So he's got quite a long nose.
So you're not always going to get a template example.
He's got quite a long nose there.
So that would indicate aspects of some higher intelligence?
Yeah, on average.
I mean, these are only small correlations.
But what you can get in some people, and I think Rooney is an example of that, is all of these markers kind of coming together.
And then you can just say.
In the same way, why is it adaptive?
Well imagine you're walking home at night or you're walking in the forest and you see some person.
You've got to react.
What do you do?
You've got to make a split second judgement.
What do I do?
Do I cross the road?
And we've got to be evolved to do that and we are evolved to do that.
It's like a hypersensitive smoke alarm.
Maybe a lot of the time you'll get it wrong, but if you get it right more than 50% of the time, then it's adaptive.
And the studies indicate that people can look at faces and they can judge things like personality and intelligence, and they can get it right more than 50% of the time.
And AI gets it right a lot more than 50% of the time.
Oh yes, I'm coming to that.
Are you seeing any markers for criminality in that?
Well, there was a Chinese study that I saw, it was very subtle, so it made a composite of the criminals versus the non-criminals, and it found that basically the criminal face was more genetically diverse, which makes sense, because you'd expect the genetically healthy person, who is not a criminal, to be closely, like the pre-industrial norm, closely involved environment, small gene pool, and then any deviation from that would be associated with criminality, so you'd have more diversity among the faces.
They found things like markers of mutational load, like eyes being closer together, little things that indicated a dysmorphic face.
Because when I was growing up, I mean I can't do it anymore because politics has gone so weird and so all over the place, but when I was growing up and there was a very clear left-right distinction, I could always tell how somebody voted just by looking at them.
Almost without fail, you could get that distinction.
It seems to me fairly, I remember people commenting on it at the time, that the new Labour government that replaced the Conservative government, a lot of those men were like less manly.
Yes.
They looked less manly.
There was something effeminate about Tony Blair.
Yes.
In a way that there wasn't about John Major.
I also wanted to throw up a picture of somebody who I think is quite smart, so I picked Freeman Dyson.
I think he's a very smart man.
Does he fit the stereotypes?
Absolutely fits the stereotypes.
So what you're seeing, he looks like he's relatively low-T, and you can see he has a very long face.
And that long, narrow face, that is associated with intelligence.
Weekly.
Weekly.
But it is.
The long nose.
Again, associated.
The opposite.
I mean, basically the opposite of a person with Down Syndrome.
Oh yes, yeah, yeah.
Large eyes allowing him, large pupils probably permitting him to take in more information and thus solve problems better.
So everything about that is saying an intelligent person and not particularly high tea person either, but certainly an intelligent person.
So then I tried to find a counter example because this one is a little bit confusing.
So this is Alan Turing.
Yeah that's again as a display people want to say this is this is pseudoscience or whatever but all I've ever said and all the studies ever say is that you will be right if you give people a large number of pictures they'll be right more times than chance would predict.
Okay.
And of course in many cases you're going to get people that therefore you'll be wrong about and also you're going to get people that are mixtures of different traits.
That's much less stereotypical.
Because he's sort of halfway between Freeman Dyson and Wayne Rooney but obviously considerably smarter.
Yeah, exactly, so he doesn't fit with it.
But as I said, these are only weak correlations, and it's just that in some people you will obviously get all of the markers together, and in some people you just won't.
But I mean, these are things that, you know, I've noticed throughout my life, you can literally sort of make these judgments.
And so, I mean, your book was interesting to me, because literally you can judge people by what they look like.
It is a remarkable thing.
This is an old Guardian article.
This is six years old before AI got really good.
But this is saying AI can guess whether you're gay or not from a photograph and it's got 91% accuracy.
Like I say, that's six years ago before AI, you know, went up a level.
Because if you are... there's a number of things involved here.
First of all, if you... homosexuality has a clear birth order effect.
So, the more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be gay.
And if you are male.
And the reason for this is that we have the first child and the male releases masculinizing hormones into the female's immune system.
And the female then counters this with these feminizing hormones.
And some of these can get through the amniotic sac.
Um, into the child.
And this will happen, like any reaction like that, it will happen in a more extreme way on the part of the woman, with each child.
So eventually, the more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be feminised, and the even more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be a homosexual paedophile.
Um, and so, and so, then what this is going to do is it's going to feminize your brain, so it's going to mean that you have higher linguistic intelligence, higher female profile, um, but it's also going to feminize your face, um, um, and so you're going to have, and the other thing is that there is an association between, uh, homosexuality and elevated mutational load, um, so like the more likely, like let's say your mother is, has a mutational load and she just releases far too much feminizing hormones,
But you will also inherit high rotational load, so you'll have this slightly asymmetrical or whatever face that deviates from the normal.
You can see that they've noted that exactly in the ratios that you've got there.
And so it would make sense that if you were given enough samples, then AI, hundreds and hundreds of samples, then AI would eventually be able to work out the very subtle...
Yes.
Differences.
Because, I mean, we were being thrown by Alan Turing, but AI is sophisticated enough to notice the tiny, tiny stuff.
The tiniest thing which we can't notice.
You know what this made me think of?
Have you ever seen Predator?
Yes.
Right, and you know he can filter through his visions.
He's like the heat map and then the, you know, whatever.
All the different visions that Predator can use.
Gay vision.
Well, that's one thing.
So, if you've got Google Glasses, right, and with AI on it, you could, like, click through it, and you could go to gay vision, to, you know, chicks who are likely to put out, or, you know, smart people.
At a Tory party conference, it's just going to be completely globby.
Autists, yeah.
But, you know, that's the point.
If you've got a pair of Google Glasses, you could do the predator vision and cycle through.
You know, you could put it on criminal vision if you're in a rough area.
You could put it on those who are likely to put out if you're at a nightclub, you know, gay if you're at a Tory conference, or, you know, whatever it is.
Or if you're the Ayatollah of Iran.
Yeah, yes.
But we could be only a few years away from being able to walk down the street and just assess with like 90% plus probability whether somebody's a good'un or a bad'un.
Yes.
This is correct.
And other subtle things as well.
For example, people that are autistic.
There's studies that have indicated that basically people that are autistic are... Normal people are like domesticated animals, and autistics are like wild animals.
And there are certain features of a domestic animal as against a non-domestic animal.
Like the ears of a domesticated animal are subtly different from a non-domesticated animal.
Thanks for looking straight at me, Ed.
And the various other things, parts of the face or whatever, are slightly different.
And you can see this difference between autistics and controls.
They are more wild, which makes sense because they're less socially skilled, they're less involved living groups, they're more on edge.
Yes.
So moving swiftly on from the Guardian article about telling if you're gay, let's go back to another physiognomy example.
I've gone with Jeffrey Dahmer.
No, hang on, that's, no, is, is that, yeah, that is Dom.
Yeah, that doesn't, I mean, that doesn't, I mean, he's, he's a psychopath.
Yes.
Um, and, as, and you would expect a psychopath to be elevated in, in testosterone markers and, and things like that, and that was what would make him impulsive.
Chin.
He, he's got this, he's got very masculinised chin.
Right.
And, you know, he was gay, but was he gay because of the birth order effect or whatever, or was he gay because he just liked dominating men for peculiar psychological reasons?
Yeah, I suppose we don't have a big data sample with people like that.
No, that's a small data sample, so there's not much you can say.
But, I mean, certainly I would say he's peculiar-looking.
Which I suppose would be probably consistent with him being a psychopathic, but there's not much you can say about that.
You also made the interesting point about, um, sort of 1940s film stars.
Yes, I wish I could find it!
There was some sort of anthropology evolutionary psychology blog about 10 or 15 years ago.
I just can't find it.
And they got a composite of the ten most famous women who were actresses in about 1940, and then a composite of the ten most famous actresses, women actresses in 2005 or something like that, including this Hegel, what was her name, that was in Knocked Up.
Oh, yes.
Her, right?
And what you notice is that the females of 1940, the composite, that's like, she's like a mother.
She's like wife material, right?
She looks more feminine, uh, and more innocent, and it's a different kind of beauty to the, the, the, the Composite Actress in 05, and she's like, you know, she's, she's the mistress, she's the lover, she's the, she's very different, and she, her, she's more masculinized in some ways.
She's got narrower eyes, she's got a smaller nose, she, she's, she's, um, yeah, but, but, she's, she's got a, some sort of more masculinized jaw, things like that, Hollywood is actively selected for the more sort of sexually available look.
We've moved from, it implies perhaps, that we've moved from finding women who are the mothering type the most sexually attractive, which is what you'd expect of a slow life history ecology, to finding women who are the the mistress type, as it were, the socio-sexual type.
Which appeals more to the fast life strategy.
Right, right.
And so there's certain socio-sexual markers in the face, and these are what you see in the 05 award.
And what about the chaps?
I mean, we've got Bogart here.
Same thing.
They noted the same thing, which is that the male actor in 1940, the composite, was less masculinised.
um than okay than the case now so it's we're going for chads and whatever the final the female of them that is uh so there's this there's this change so both of them have become more more faster more fast life history strategist yeah okay which means more masculine uh high t in the men and more sort of you know well yeah basically it's a degree more masculine in the women right Right, okay, okay.
And I wanted to try and find an example of a spiteful mutant, and I did a quick poll... Remember, I call them altruistic mutants these days because of... Yes, you do, because of Woke.
In fact, I did an episode with Ed which went up yesterday on Broconomics, so go and check out Woke Eugenics, which is also a book.
Anyway, it's on Broconomics.
So, yes, Spiteful Mutant.
I did a quick poll in the office.
We could not think of anyone better than Trotsky.
There are certain things that complicate that, but if you... Because that's a very odd-looking man.
It is an odd-looking man, for reasons I... are difficult, perhaps, to articulate.
But I think a better example would be someone like Andrea Dworkin.
That would make it easier because he's at a funny angle and whatever.
But he certainly doesn't look particularly symmetrical, that's for sure.
His eyes are close together, you can see that for a start, that's obvious.
Yes, but very mutant-ish.
Going back to Boomer Truth, what are we getting out of this?
This is Winston Churchill.
Winston Churchill is a bit odd-looking, but I think part of that is he's something like, is it one-eighth Native American?
Is he?
Yeah.
And so he looks a bit peculiar.
So does his father.
And I think that's probably just a product of that.
So it's difficult, but it's definitely, I would think, a high tea He's lost his hair.
Even though he's fat, even taking that away, if you look at him when he's younger, he's got a wide face look, he's got this small pug sort of nose, and he looks like a bulldog.
And that is implying that he's a relatively high testosterone man, which would be consistent with his aggressiveness, his poor impulse control, his alcoholism, he's also a short, very short guy, about 5'6".
Um, and whatever.
So, you can see how different he looks from someone like Neville Chamberlain or Stanley Baldwin.
He's much more masculine looking than either of those.
Was Chamberlain quite tall, was he?
I don't know how tall Chamberlain was, but Churchill was like known for being short.
He was notably short, 5'6".
Okay, one quick one.
Ted Bundy.
Because he's a good looking man.
He is a good-looking man, and he's quite a high tea man.
I mean, look at the chin.
Yes.
The nose is a bit feminine.
But look at the chin, the shape of the eyes, the... You can see why that would appeal to women.
Yeah, yeah.
It didn't work out for them.
No, no, no.
It didn't work out for them very well.
The other thing I wanted to highlight, and you made an excellent point, is I was talking to you about examples... Oh, how do I get over there?
Examples of US presidents, because we've got to throw something in there for the Americans who watch this.
But you said, no, don't look at the presidential winners.
Well, look at both.
Look at who wins and who loses.
Well, yes.
I couldn't find them side by side, but this is a list of presidential losers.
Right.
So, I mean, Dewey, for example, the guy who prosecuted Al Capone.
I mean, that is... Look at Stevenson.
Go down, add my Stevenson, OK, and compare him to Eisenhower, who's more masculine.
It's obviously Eisenhower.
Yes.
Okay, and then, so that would be, you're not always going to work like this, but I mean, when Nixon came back, I think Decarcus, look at Goldwater and compare him to LBJ, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Right?
Hugely, clearly, Hubert Humphrey, and compare him to Nixon, he's clearly less, look, he's less good looking.
They're on the same page though, aren't I?
You can see them there, right?
Look at Nixon compared to Humphrey.
And then McGovern, that would be Nixon again.
I don't know about that, maybe that doesn't work.
He was never really elected, so he doesn't count.
I would think surely Reagan is more masculine than Carter.
Oh, yes.
Right?
And then Walter Mondale, again, less than Reagan.
And then, but Dukakis, look at this guy.
I mean, he was tiny.
The other thing to take into account is height.
So people will vote for taller men.
And Dukakis was basically far too short to be President of America.
I mean, there was no way.
He was a tiny little man.
Right.
So Rubio shouldn't have made an effort.
Well, he wasn't that short, though.
He was probably about 5'9 or 5'10.
Well, that's a bit short.
Well, not really.
It's the average height, isn't it?
But someone like Dukakis is clearly just too short.
Then they put up... What was his name?
They put up against Obama, who was really short.
Was it McCain?
McCain, there's no way.
Also you notice as well, most of the candidates that win or lose are full heads of hair.
It's very rare that they are bald.
If they are, then like Joe, they have operations.
It seems to me that they don't really, bald men don't seem to get elected.
No, that's fascinating.
It's not considered attractive.
Well that's fascinating.
So, look, if you can't wait for your Predator Vision Google Glasses that, you know, gives you your gay dar and your whatever dar, then read Ed's book, right at the beginning there, on how to judge people, what they look like, because that was fascinating.
Wonderful!
Right, let's go to some comments.
Right, do we have any video comments or is it just website?
Okay, it's just website and rumble rants then.
Someone for $1, Connor Smugmug, nice name, says, the Tennessee Christian School Shooters Manifesto was released.
Look into it, 27 year old girl reads like a teenager with a fetish for brown girls.
I saw Steven Crowder's stream on it yesterday, but I haven't looked into it yet.
From the leaked pages that were already there, it seemed like the schizo posting of the exact kind of progressive activist that would go and shoot a bunch of children.
No wonder the authorities didn't want it out!
Threadnaughts says, Trotsky looks like his head is a cube with a bad wig on it, or one of those disguise kits from cartoons for a face.
Yeah, you know the glasses with the nose and the moustache?
Oh yeah.
Get from a joke shop?
Yeah, that's how Trotsky looks, definitely.
That's a random name.
Says, growing up, teachers told me never to judge a book by its cover, yet without fail, all the worst interactions I've ever had were with weird dysgenic freaks.
That's one thing I would ask.
How much of this is driven by genetic factors and how much of it is driven by lifestyle habits?
Because obviously, you know, you see big fat women that vote left.
They're not all genetically predisposed to be big fat women, are they?
Well, I mean, all else being equal, there are people that are big fat women that are going to be genetically, are going to be fat because of genetic factors relating to, I mean, what is it predicts being fat?
High extroversion predicts being fat, that's about 50% genetic.
Low conscientiousness predicts being fat.
Low agreeableness predicts being fat.
And then there are certain kinds, neuroticism predicts oscillating between different extremes of weight.
Um, and then people who are, um, there's a certain kind of woman that we're getting more and more of, because it used to be that if you had a propensity to be genetically fat, then you were also more likely to die in childbirth, and with the rise of, so you'd only have one child, wait for that, and then with the rise of obstetrics since the 1930s, we've seen this massive rise in obesity, and it's been argued that a big part of that is just genetic, it's just these people that have a proneness to obesity not dying in childbirth anymore, and so then we just have more fat people.
So, um, a big part of the- of being fat is, um, is genetic.
Um, probably at least half.
Right.
Interesting.
There we go.
Uh, comments.
Ollie.
Always great to see Professor Ed Dutton on the show.
His appearance on the live stream talking about the tin legs was hilarious.
In regards to his analysis of explaining the difference between right-wing and left-wing people, it starts to make sense why these people are the way they are, subverting themselves To an ideology that essentially promises everything is proof in the pudding.
They're failed individuals, hence why they're obsessed with envious primates like Marx, good show chaps.
That about right?
Um, there's certainly one of the motivations of being left wing has been found to be resentment, anti-hierarchical aggression and basically that they feel, even if it's not the case, they feel that they are failures and they feel inadequate and this makes them want to get power and want to tear down what's there and bring about a vacuum and a centre power in that context.
And that's interesting, that's the problem with Conservatives.
Conservatives tend to have a positive world view, like they feel that they're reasonably successful even if they're not.
Whereas people, you know, they just want to grill and stuff.
Whereas people with the left wing will feel, always feel, that they are failures.
Always feel that they are persecuted.
Always feel that the big bad, you know, the Tsar could come back and take over.
And in many ways that's adaptive, because it means they never ever rest on their laurels.
Are these politics heritable?
Politics is, yeah, depends on what aspect of it, but that's the point.
So I'm not advocating this, but if there was a massive purge, then it would take a long time for the left wingers to come back with it.
Well yeah, because we've been select- as I look at it in Woke Eugenics, we were selecting for a very long- we know this because these things are associated genetically with health and genetically with mental and physical health.
We were selecting for a long time to be essentially conservative and religious and ethnocentric.
And therefore these things are being- are bundled together with being, on average, with being genetically, mentally and physically healthy.
And then with the collapse of half-directional selection you get a build-up of mutation and that's going to be in the direction of away from what we were selecting for and therefore it's associated with leftism.
So if there was, well they are purging themselves, that's what they're doing, that's what eugenics is.
They are bringing about a culture which induces, which the only people that are going to be resistant to being drawn into this death ...are those that are genetically right-wing, conservative and liberal.
See Brokeronomics for more detail on that with Ed.
Matherin says, thank you Dan for that definition of boomer truth.
I think that was Conor's.
But that was not one for one with what I thought it meant.
Contextually on the show it always seemed a bit more generationally focused.
Well, I mean, yeah, the boomers are the strongest adherents to boomer truth, but it's not directly them.
It resonates more there.
Justin B. If someone is cold on people that are close to them, and hot for people that are far away, it sounds extreme self-loathing.
The closer something is to themselves, the less they like it, it suggests that fixing the self-loathing would deprogram them.
Can these people be deprogrammed, or is it hardwired into their brain?
Um, so you're going to get some people that are like they are for strongly genetic reasons.
So you're going to imagine a society that's very different from society now.
You're going to get some people that are Christian, religious, whatever the society is throwing at them.
So those are the people now that even though we have this left-wing society are still religious.
And then you're going to get some people...
that are like it because they're culturally conformist or a bit non-conformist or whatever it happens to be.
Some people would be more to do with environmental reasons or an interaction between, and then some people would be just, you know, if we were a right-wing conservative society, then there'd be lots of people that would just be religious for purely environmental reasons because they conform.
Right.
It varies, so there would be a degree to which you're going to get lots of people when things move back towards being right-wing.
Some of them can be saved.
Yeah.
Okay.
Chase Ball says, the left indeed does have an in-group preference, it just happens to be with fellow parasites.
Do spiteful mutants like other spiteful mutants?
Yeah, they assortatively may.
Right, okay, fine.
Uh, we have some Zumba comments.
Yes, uh, SuitsTheRedCoat, what exactly is stopping us, I presume he means like the German government and the like, from taking DNA samples and putting them on database?
Uh, simple, you cannot acknowledge that group differences exist unless you're trying to actively extract resources from the more productive group.
Like, anarcho-tyranny is basically the tacit admission that the blank slate doesn't exist.
Because if you can acknowledge that one group is more likely to behave in one way, and then you inflict them on another part of the population, you're admitting there are group differences, but they still try and use it to get to the multicultural utopia anyway.
You've been via learninism, don't you?
What do you mean?
Biolism would show you that you have to over-promote certain groups.
Yeah, but anarcho-tyranny works in the same way.
Because if with anarcho-tyranny you acknowledge there is always going to be a criminal underclass...
Oh, I see.
...you have to acknowledge there are certain types of people predisposed to be...
I see, I see.
Yeah, even though the exact same people that inflict anarcho-tyranny on us insist that the blank slate is real.
Kevin Fox: Amnesty International were up in arms about Germany breaking international law by deporting 28.
No such complaint from them when Pakistan deports 500,000 Afghans and are about to deport a million more.
Why does international law, which Amnesty International seems to think overrides national laws, apply to white countries?
Simple, because they're not signed up to those treaties.
The ECHR is only for Europe and the Europeans bound themselves in that to prevent them from ever becoming the 1930s moustache man ever again.
The Pakistanis just don't care.
This is why race communism doesn't take hold in any non-liberal country.
Not gonna happen.
Michael Brooks.
My Slovakian father-in-law once stated to me, we were born in communism, so we know what it looks like, and we see it in the West, we will not let that poison back here, but I feel for your country as you've never had a taste of it, so you can't feel the bitterness, only the sweet.
He now fears that it is already back in his country because of the American Alphabet Brigade.
We're tasting it now.
Yeah, quite.
Not wrong.
Do you want to do some for the audience?
Yes, but first of all, I'm going to pick on Dave in the live chat, who was complaining about Ed's previous point there, saying that, you know, the only way you can be fat is to eat more calories than you burn, it's not rocket science.
I mean...
Yes, obviously, but I'm pretty sure the point that you're making is people with a genetic disposition for this stuff are more likely to go out and consume those.
So if you look at the North Korean famine, then the people that died first were the athletic types because they burn food off quickly, they therefore don't get, they don't accrue fat very easily, so then they died.
Whereas the people that were able to store fat very easily, i.e.
the endomorph body types, they would survive for longer because they have slower metabolisms.
Right.
Yes.
Okay.
Right.
Anyway, so you have been told, Dave.
Because obviously.
Yeah, Dave.
We do have a Super Chat, by the way.
Do we?
Asking for Ed to assess mine and yours' physiognomy.
Well, it's very dull because, again, it's... No, no, go for it.
It's like when I was on the Deading Pole show.
Well, obviously, you can see that our friend down here has quite a masculine brow.
Face is quite long, consistent with intelligence.
Nose is quite long, consistent with intelligence.
He's got one of these silly beards, but I'm sure if he shaved it off, it's a reasonably masculine chin.
Conor, similarly, very...
He has, clearly, Neanderthal genetics.
So, I bet, I bet, I bet if you had the, the brow is very, if you, if you did the, like, the average European has about two percent Neanderthal genetics, with you maybe it's four.
Uh, again... That'll be the Irishman, I think.
...reasonably, uh, reasonably, again, reasonably long face, so it's, it's, it's, it's a intelligent face, neither particularly high T, uh, but, um, and, and, and, yeah, so that's, uh, that's it.
And you're, what are you, Test, are you, you're sort of, what, uh, Horwood stage one, both of you?
Horwood Stage 1?
Horwood Stage 1.
I'm Horwood Stage 1.
So when you go bald, you go bald but it's the least bald level of the Horwood Stage 1 to I think it's 8.
So I went like this at about 26.
And then stopped.
So basically full head of hair.
You're about Horwood Stage 1 or 2 I think.
But basically what you're saying is high marks on physiognomy?
Yeah, I suppose.
It's not like I'm sitting here with some kind of ugly bastard, is it?
Yes, yes.
Very good.
Very good.
Physiognomy.
Is that Eloise?
I need to read the book.
I feel I've been going through a transformation and been trying... Oh, there's a very long bracket there.
"Over the last few years, Dan and Ed's commentary eyeliner also made me rethink my personal lifestyle choices." Yes, very good.
"All this time I thought being creative with eye makeup men can interpret you as being crazy." What's the physiognomy of crazy eyes?
You mean like mad staring eyes?
Yeah, particularly on women.
Um, well the brain is, um, the eyes are the window to the soul in a very real sense because the eyes are literally made of the same material as the brain.
I mean they're connected to it.
It's the same material.
So if something goes wrong with the brain, let's say for example a child has flu, a very bad flu, then it can cause brain damage and you get a child with a squint or something like that.
So I would imagine that the eyes being close to connect to the brain, if it was something odd like too much blood being pumped to the eyes or something strange like that, and that would be itself a marker of something that's wrong with the individual and that you have crazy eyes.
Or another possibility is if they have sort of autistic traits, I don't know, and they just sort of stare, I don't know, but there is reason to think that you can assess with above average, above chance accuracy, information from people's eyes, even if you're not conscious of what you're doing.
An example of this is that intelligence is associated with having larger pupils at rest.
And that makes sense, because intelligence, you've got to take in information and assess it.
So the more information you can take in, then the better you can solve a problem.
So if the interface between the world and the brain is bigger, you can take in more information.
I just want to come back to Eloise on the make-up comment, because you're sort of asking about what men like there, and I don't know what men like, but I know what I like.
Right, so what I want is makeup, but to the minimum level that you can just about tell that you're wearing some, and no more.
Stop.
Sometimes you see women who put makeup on, and they've got enough, and then they just do it another five or six times.
That's ridiculous.
And if you're gonna go for eye stuff, the only thing I do like, as a special occasion, is that thing where you get the black stuff and you go round.
That looks very striking.
You know what I don't like, is when they put on fake lashes.
No, I don't like that, but the round and round thing, that's quite good.
The little flick's okay as well.
It's alright.
Not sure about that.
Works sometimes.
Anyway, we're running up against time.
Well, okay, let's quickly do some more then.
North FC says, clearly I ought to win ball 27.
Nick Taylor says, uh, poor Connor looks like his life is flashing before his eyes while the low T characteristics are listed.
Didn't this man die?
Yes, but he's got Neanderthals, so that, that makes up for it, doesn't it?
I'm also in very good shape, so... Right, right.
Don't care.
Um, Sam Weston's... Ooh, cope!
that was brutal no he's a lovely man He is, he's lovely.
He's very masculine.
Um, Sam Weston says, Professor, um, Dutton, uh, with being able to judge certain people by certain features and traits that they have, uh, which are more likely to signify that they have lower testosterone, for example, can that be compared in any way, uh, like... Apo-semitism.
What is that?
And wasps, like, the opposite of camouflage, that you tell people, stay away, stay away.
You're telling people to stay away, so you're conveying that you're dangerous via your body, like bright colours, bright colours and frogs, things like that.
So hang on, so is good physiognomy that then, the opposite of stay away, it's come in?
Well yeah, it's attractive.
Isn't it?
It's attractive.
But on the other hand, if you are a sort of a fast-life history strategist, then there could be something attractive, as it were, about stay-away physiognomy, or stay-away clothes anyway, because it's saying that I'm dangerous and I'm unstable, and what that means is that is associated with being socio-sexual, and that means easy sexual opportunity, and for a certain kind of person, that itself can be attractive.
So, most of what we do, like a man growing tall or a woman growing large breasts or big buttocks or something like this, or even a symmetrical face, is a way of saying, I have good genes, it's attractive.
But then within that, there are interesting differences.
So, men will vary in the kind of breast size.
Men who are attracted to large breasts and large buttocks are faster life history strategists than men that are attracted to small but pert.
Breasts and buttocks.
Oh!
Why?
Because if you're a fast life history strategist, you live fast, die young, you have to advertise your sexual quality quickly and conspicuously.
And if you are a man, then you will be attracted to, who is a fast life history strategist, you will want women that are like that, that are genetically like you, that are fast life history strategists, who advertise their genetic quality quickly and conspicuously.
So people with large... women with large buttocks and large breasts are attracted to these chav... fast-lifing, stretchy men, and vice-versa.
Whereas men that are slower-lifing, stretchy, tend to be attracted to women that have smaller breasts and smaller bottoms.
Oh!
That's me.
I like the perp breasts and the small bum.
Preferably either Nordic or Asian.
And also, we also found that slower-lifing, stretchies are more attracted to face over body.
Right, because face is a very... So hang on, which way round?
Face over body.
No, no, for who?
Faster.
Slow.
Because face is a marker of genetic similarity, and if you're a slow-lifing strategist, then you have a smaller number of children, with a smaller number of women, and you invest more in them, so you'll want to have someone that's more genetically similar to you, because then you'll have a smaller number of children.
If you have someone just any distance from you, you've got to have more children to pass on the same number of genes.
Yes.
So therefore, they're face over body.
They're not interested in Bob Fox.
Okay.
Whereas the butter-body sort of a person, you know, they're that.
Oh, I don't like that, no.
No, you'll see, that's what you do.
Face is more important than body.
Okay, and what's the difference between men who like blondes and men who like Asians?
Um, I don't know if there have been specific studies into this.
I mean, you would expect people that would out-breed to be faster like history strategists because you're breeding with someone that's less similar to you and thus passing on fewer of your genes and thus need to have more children to make up for it.
So you would think that perhaps they would be faster if they were blonde, like blondes, or men who just like people of their own group.
But that comes down to the number of partners, does it?
It comes down to the fact that you're trading genetic similarity for, in the case of Asians, or East Asians, beauty, oestrogen, high femininity, a paedomorphic face.
Yes.
Um, and so you're making that trade-off.
And the trade-off you've chosen is genetic difference to get genetic quality.
And that would be a fast thing to do.
Well, Ed, thank you for going to Dan's Sexual Proclivities.
Uh, we have to wrap up.
We've got time.
Can we go on?
We don't, unfortunately.
I've got to do my show in 20 minutes.
So, thank you very much for joining us, Ed.
Cheers.
Cheers, Dan.
As ever, we will be back tomorrow at 1 o'clock.
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