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🔴Is Trump Confirmed To Be on the Epstein List - What the Hell Is Going On? 2025-07-24 18:08
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All right.
Somebody got spicy.
By the way, that's not my junk.
Somebody's commenting they missed seeing my junk.
I was wearing a cup because Stephen was kicking me all day.
Well, that's true.
You like it.
And by the way, you can refer to that, glorious, as anything but junk.
Yeah.
Another man's trash is another man's jewels, baby.
It's one man's trash is another man's trash.
If I said one man's trash, another man's trash is another man's treasure.
And we're not going to have it.
In fact, when I'm done with it, I'm going to go bury it on an island in the Caribbean.
Imagine if you buried it and then it grew more penises.
Whoa.
That'd be cool.
And one of them ended up Bridget McGroe now.
Just like fruit, because it wants you to spread its seed.
That's what God meant.
So, okay.
So she says, provide pictures.
Now, to be clear, in their filing, they said, we sent many letters.
Yes.
Many emails.
And then when she never responded to the emails, they sent it, I believe, through Courier to make sure that she knew.
Singing Telegram?
Yeah, exactly.
I heard that you were feeling ill.
So they reached out to her many times to correct the record, asked her to she had access to the information that they provided.
Again, some of the information, they provided pictures.
They provided news clippings.
They provided more pictures.
They provided what amounted to sworn testimony.
They provide evidence of motherhood.
Now, that's not to say that all of it, let's say you believe she's a man, that it's enough proof, but it is more than enough proof that her claims, there are no pictures, are unsubstantiated.
Then she just, she switched it and said, well, that's actually not a picture of her.
It's a picture of her brother.
And then it was verified that that was not the case.
And this is verified in court.
So what evidence this comes down to, again, compare it to the Trump cases as far as defamation, right?
Knowingly lying when you have knowledge that it will cause damage, right?
That is different.
You can say whatever you want.
You can't knowingly weaponize words and information, especially if you know the information to be false, to damage someone publicly.
You will be held responsible for that.
And that is different from making a mistake.
So it's going to come down to proof.
I want to be very, very clear.
What proof, what evidence does Candace have?
Her sources include a couple of journalists who had released this publicly a very long time ago.
She probably saw some of the videos on YouTube.
And Amandine Roy, a spiritual medium who floated the theory that Bridget is really her brother who transitioned into Bridget and isn't a man.
Or sorry, isn't a woman.
So these are her sources.
I know you're thinking, there must be more.
She must have medical records, but hasn't presented any.
She must have evidence beyond hearsay, like the Nashville story, like Donald Trump calling her, doesn't appear to be any.
So the information that she did have at the time when she released this to you, if you watched her series, a multi-part series, where she said, there are no pictures out there of Bridget.
It's like she didn't exist.
It's like her former husband, her first husband, didn't exist.
Okay, at the time, according to this filing, she had childhood pictures of Bridget.
She had the evidence of Bridget being a biological mother to three children.
They had the newspaper birth announcements as to when she was born.
They had documentation of Bridget's first marriage, including, by the way, pictures.
They also had photos and videos of Bridget's brother in public with Bridget.
Jeez.
Who Candace Owens claimed Bridget to be together in the same room?
Pre-split screen technology.
Chacle-et-blue.
And here's the thing.
I don't know if it's the medium.
You guys can confirm her sources because it's, again, it's a 200-page filing.
Basically, as I understand it, there are two journalists, more or less, and one spiritual medium.
There might be one journalist and one spiritual medium.
I think it's one-in-one, and they're combined in the two people.
I don't believe that's the case.
I believe that it's separate.
The journalists who had these sort of, what was it called?
Drois et affaire, something like, I'm trying to remember.
It was a French publication.
I don't know if it's online or not.
But her references are people who haven't provided any other references, to be clear.
And some of them were already found liable for defamation.
Now, to be clear, they appealed it, and the appeal was granted, but not on the grounds that it wasn't defamation.
it was another technicality.
So in this, Yes, I believe right now.
So it's still working its way through.
It's still working its way through.
But the first ruling that you had is, yeah, this is defamation.
So in other words, her references have already at one point been found responsible for committing acts of defamation.
And those are her references while she had these mountains of evidence.
Is Bridget Macrone a dude or is she just, and by the way, I do mean this, like, I don't like Macrone.
I don't like his politics.
I don't like his policies.
And I probably wouldn't like Bridget at all.
And by the way, she was a teacher and it was really creepy and he was young and I think that it's probably an inappropriate relationship, of course.
But if this woman is not a man and just a very unfortunate looking broad, you know, don't you guys, like, don't you feel a little bad for her?
But who knows these days?
With her appearance on Ellen, you know, that's the most evidence I've seen.
Didn't help.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, wow, wow.
Oh, wow.
She must have picked one up from where you planted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's a seasonal worker.
And so, yeah, that's what it's going to come down to.
And I will tell you this.
Look, with Candace and the Nashville thing, I was, at first, I was going, she doesn't have anything.
I'm going, I hope she has some information.
In other words, I'm hoping that our source and all of our legwork has led to other people being able to open up.
And instead, I will say in the Nashville case, it was either completely incorrect or fraudulent.
It is one of those two because her information was verifiably false.
And I tend to believe fraudulent because she never followed up.
She said, tune in, click, click, click, give me clicks, and then had nothing else to provide.
But you've seen this many times.
There's no evidence, no proof.
And when you combine with no evidence, no proof, and a gut feeling based on what a spiritual medium told you and what a sort of journalist, I guess, told you who has already been found in one capacity or another to be liable for defamation, contrasted with photographic and historical and sworn testimony evidence.
I don't really think it's going to be that hard to prove that she knowingly was dishonest.
It's going to come down to the damages, the jurisdiction.
I really think that's the only thing that remains to be seen.
I think we should expect better.
I think we should expect better from our people.
And I know working in this industry, I tell you that most people don't start off with, hey, is this correct?
It's sure, you need to be correct.
You need to provide information.
You need to provide insight, add value for you watching, and then go and then go, okay, how do we do this so that it's at least palatable, entertaining, so that people want to watch it?
But you do have to start with, is this true?
Is it accurate?
And that's why we make all the references available.
And that's why we don't have a business that operates on investigative journalism because the moment you do that, you have to look for the next big scoop.
And then you start trying to find it in places that it doesn't exist.
We can do it when we think there's something there.
And that's by design.
At best, I'm disappointed with the way Candace is handling this if she's a journalist or a broadcaster.
At worst, I'm disgusted with someone potentially knowingly lying to you to try and get your clicks, your money, and support with no mindfulness as to your reputation, your credibility.
If you go out and say, I know for a fact that Bridget McCrone is a man, and then it's so verifiably proven false that your friends and your circle never trust you again, your credibility matters too.
I try and think sitting right there, wherever you are, in your truck, in your living room, in your dorm, I don't want to hang you out to dry.
She did that to you.
That's my opinion.
Yeah.
And look, this is just another in a long series of these kinds of questionable events.
Like we talked about, you can make a mistake.
You can come back and go, hey, admonish me.
I've been admonished a million times.
I understand.
Right.
Or you can come back and issue a correction or you can say, hey, we got that.
We got that.
Oh, come on.
You can say, we got that wrong.
But there's no two cops are going to be fired.
And Steven Crowder maybe or somebody connected with him paid for this.
There's, and tune into my show later on so that you can see what's really going on.
There was nothing that was really going on.
Two cops weren't fired.
Like that's what she was claiming, that people were going to lose their job.
And then she goes, you can take from that what you will on Steven putting this out there.
Like, obviously, she's saying you were reckless and you just got people fired, Stephen.
That's exactly what she was saying right there.
Also, that influencers were paid to do stories about her.
I think the only thing that was ever, the only thing that ever even came of that was some random email from a Jewish group, I guess, to Protestant churches or churches in America to preach sermons on some of these things that might happen from Candace's show.
There's probably some truth to that.
That then came out and literally said, no, we never did that.
There's no evidence of it is what I'm saying.
There's no evidence.
She didn't say these Jewish groups went to churches to get them to preach sermons about me.
She said influencers are paid to do hit pieces.
Right.
That's a different thing.
There's probably some truth to the fact that sermons, right, they all talk about like, yeah, there's a growing wave of anti-Semitism.
Are you concerned about it?
Yeah, you are.
Are you?
Do we all agree that maybe we need to do that?
That kind of stuff happens.
But this group came out and said, no, we didn't actually do any of that.
Of course, look, it could turn out that that's true, but that's not what she claimed.
And it's not this widespread problem.
And so you do have to start at some point going, like, why are you making these claims that you can't really verify?
Trump called me and told me, listen to this, listen to this, that France is the key to peace between Ukraine and Russia?
France is not the key to peace to anybody right now.
Thank you very much.
And even if that was the case, I don't think France would go, you know, I could make a phone call right now and I could end the human suffering that's going on by the tens of thousands every single week being either killed or maimed in this war.
But that Candace Owens called my wife a man.
So no, I'm not going to do it.
Right.
Like, do you think that's really what's happening right now, that you're that self-important?
And also you make a claim that nobody's going to bother to verify because Trump's not going to come out and say anything about it.
He doesn't care.
And you can't possibly prove that it happened.
What I do know, though, is that you said in the middle of that, you had the foresight to go, ah, I need to say something funny because I'm going to write a book later about this.
Very telling, Candace.
Right.
Interesting stuff.
I'm just saying it fits away.
And then tell everyone you stand nothing to gain by being brave and standing up for the truth.
Buy my book.
Nothing.
Hey, why would I release a free chapter with salacious rumors of rape if I stand nothing to gain?
By the way, buy my book if you want to read the rest of it.
I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous.
It's silly.
By the way, when I didn't write a children's book, I read it on air.
I said, ah, if you want to buy it to your children, I'll tell you this.
Stand to gain.
I'm going to make from that book.
I'm going to put, you know, it's going to be invested for my kids.
And it's like, hey, but there you go.
No, no.
It's just the whole thing is I'm just doing this out of bravery.
I stand nothing to gain.
Well, let's just ignore clicks and traffic, which amounts to dollars.
Okay, are you selling a book?
Are you selling any wares?
I will tell you this.
When I tell you, hey, look, we are actually being sensed.
We are actively being suppressed.
We have been demonetized.
Diageo has told Rumble that they won't run any ads there if they continue to host us.
I'll tell you what I stand again.
Being able to continue doing this show and employing everyone here that you watch, it requires you to join.
Hopefully, and you guys can't, I'm very straightforward about it.
We are actually funded by you and a very small percentage comparatively of a single sponsor a day.
Sometimes no sponsors.
Don't forget the Jew money and the caliphate money.
You have to get both sides.
But you'll never hear me say, I stand nothing to gain by mug club slash rumble premium.
Well, of course I do.
It's what keeps us here gainfully employed.
I'm not making 15 million.
I'm not making anywhere Near, not making a tenth of that.
Stephen Colbert is making none of it, not even close.
But we get to live comfortable lives and work really hard to present you with this information.
Of course, we stand something to gain.
And if it's mutually beneficial, great.
When people say, I stand nothing to gain, aren't you married to a lord?
Like, let's just be honest about this.
Does she call him my lord?
My lord.
So, hey, let me give a couple of clarifying points, and then I have a bit of sad news.
Not terribly sad, but sad enough.
I already know Ozzy died.
No, no, no.
Look, it's not that.
Not that, not that, not that, not that.
I said, let me give an update.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Do the update first.
You want to do this?
All right.
So the lawsuit is against the two podcasters.
That was the only lawsuit.
The medium is included with those is what they're saying.
So the other part of it that we want to make sure people understand where this story came from, what is Fates at Documents.
It's a paper that sort of re-earthed the story.
The editor is Xavier.
He wrote a book, Becoming Bridget, and has interviewed with Candace, but he's never been sued specifically, not that person who wrote that book.
So just to clarify kind of where this thing comes from and how it gets out there.
So we'll see where all this goes.
Listen, if I'm wrong, then we'll do the admonishment.
Here's another thing.
Here's the thing.
If it's your wife, if it's your husband, whatever it is, the claims being made, they go, and someone publicly says, and by the way, on a campaign says there's no proof of his birth and there are no childhood pictures.
And then you go, birth certificate, birth announcement, many, many pictures of childhood, including weddings.
And with her children, and with the brother you claim this person to be.
You provided it, and that person knowingly omitted and continued to lie about it.
Now, knowingly omitting it is different.
You don't have to include all information that you've been given.
I understand that.
Every single piece that you read or video that you watch includes edits.
If there's an in and an out point, there are edits.
But if you omit it and knowingly continue to say there are no childhood photographs, there is no evidence of this person's birth when you have been sent that.
I'm going to tell you legally this doesn't end well for Candace no matter what she does as far as grandstanding.
It ends poorly.
It ends poorly.
And just like you personalize it when you're betrayed by people you voted for, I would say I've felt that way in the past when I've had people who I've supported who were orders or they were broadcasters and sometimes even comedians who then sort of stabbed me in the, I guess I should say, ideological back.
Just know that you've been hung out.
If you actually believed before today that there was no evidence of the birth, you were lied to.
If you actually believe there were no childhood pictures, you were lied to.
If you actually believe that there was no evidence that Bridget McCrone was seen photographed with the brother who people have claimed her to be, you were lied to.
You still may think she's a man.
I honestly don't know.
I don't really give a shit.
But I do care about, you know, the truth.
Now, what do I stand to gain by covering this story?
Honestly, in this case, very little because it's going to split people.
People go, oh, I like it.
Well, fine.
You can like it.
She's wrong on this.
Sometimes I'm wrong.
Sometimes she's wrong.
You know, like Nashville, she was wrong.
She was completely wrong.
On this, it seems like she was completely wrong.
Maybe she didn't read her emails and maybe she didn't open the letter that was sent to her with all these photographs.
I don't know.
But at a certain point, you do have to be responsible if you're holding yourself out there as a beacon of truth.
The update, I think I know.
Yes, Hulk Hogan is dead at 71.
Oh, brother.
Unfortunately, seeing him govern it right now, showing some footage.
And that guy had a hard last few years with Gawker and the case and everything.
And I know a lot of people didn't like him for other reasons, but he still was an American icon.
And seems like he, you know, I hope that he's up there at the Pearly Gates saying, let me tell you something, brother.
Do you think his glorified body is better than when he was at his peak in wrestling?
I don't know.
I hope he gained back his hearing so he's not up there with St. Peter going, what was that?
Is he the one that had the theme song?
I am a real American.
Real American.
Ready.
I am the rights of every man.
Every man.
Yeah.
I like it.
Well, not every just man, I meant in general.
What was the name of that?
It was Thunder in Paradise, right?
Thunder in Paradise.
was one.
Yeah, I remember.
None of his movies were necessarily great.
It was.
He had that.
He had, was it something Nanny?
Wasn't there always been Nanny?
I think Mr. Nanny?
None of his movies were any good at all.
If he made an appearance or something, then it was cool, but he was the same character and do that really quickly and then be done.
But yeah, otherwise it just sucked.
Well, he was definitely, and you get some real wrestling fans who don't like it, but he brought in the theatrics.
He wasn't a great technical wrestler.
He was the one who really connected with the audience.
And okay, I'm going to be the good guy.
And that being said, he did actually pick up Andre the Giant over his head and throw him.
If we can bring up that story.
The story is really interesting.
If you saw the documentary on that, kind of the passing of the torch between he's like, this guy's my hero, essentially, or some degree, he had a lot of respect.
And apparently Andre called for it middle of the match and he wasn't wasn't not middle of the match, but right before it he like called for it like to do it.
And I don't think it was planned.
And I was like, if I was, if I was Hulk Holder, I'd be like, holy crap, I hope I can do this.
Well, no, I think he had already done it in small shows because they'll do shows that aren't televised, that aren't pay-per-views.
But I don't, as I remember, they weren't supposed to do it on that televised broadcast.
And so even got to be.
Andre called for it.
It's something you got to warm up for.
Yeah, I was about to say.
That was a massive, massive man.
And by the way, the heaviest drinker ever.
Oh, yeah.
Ever.
Who's ever walked the face of the earth?
Andre the Giant because he was in constant, constant pain.
Yeah.
And used to throw his beer together.
Maybe Wade Boggs.
What was that?
No.
Nobody can compare to Andre the Giant.
Oh, no, no, no.
Andre the Giant.
No, no.
Andre the Giant said a record.
83.
He drank 83 in an hour.
Wade Boggs.
Whoa.
No, he drank 83.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I think Andre the Giant.
No, no, hold on a second, guys.
Everyone, stop.
I think Andre the Giant drank like 100 something in an hour.
There's a record that he set with beer, and they said that he would regularly drink like 40, 50 on a bus ride and toss his cans at the back of Hulk's head.
And also have two bottles of wine after.
Holy shit.
They said that he had to be able to get it.
Is that why he talked like that?
I thought it was just his condition.
No, it was his condition.
And part of it was he was self-medicating because the guy was in constant pain.
And also, he didn't get drunk nearly as quickly as no, no, it required a lot.
Yeah, exactly.
A lot, a lot.
So give me, hold on.
The Wade Boggs thing?
You don't know about Wade Boggs?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, on a flight.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
An eight-hour flight, he drank 82 beers.
No way.
So, okay, let's see.
Legendia Urban Legend.
Okay, let's have the picture first of him lifting under the giant, right?
Yeah, I've got that video real quick.
Oh, we've got the video.
Awesome.
Okay.
We're seeing what this guy is really made of.
What he is.
What made his picture?
He looked old then.
Yeah, I know.
Look at this.
Wow.
I think there's one where he lifted him over his head, though, didn't he?
I don't know about that.
Press him?
Maybe not.
I thought there was.
I'm picturing him.
He's 400 pounds, right?
Yeah.
Andre 390, something like that?
No, no, no.
He was over 500.
They listed him like well over 500, but he was over four.
From what?
Especially as he got older.
He was definitely over four.
What else did you have for us, Noodles?
So let's see.
Andre the Giant, one of the most famous stories involves Andre consuming 119 beers in a single sitting.
Other accounts from fellow wrestlers even suggest he drank 156 beers in one night.
Those feats, even exaggerated, are far more extreme than the stories about Boggs, which was 70 in a cross-country trip.
Or it says, or 107 beers on a flight.
There's no way.
There's just no way for like a guy like Wade Boggs.
Come on, there's just no Andre the Giant.
Andre, different.
Wade the Foggs didn't have a condition.
I believe it because they said that he would drink several cases of beer before going out for a match.
Yeah, yeah.
No, for Andre, again, I'm talking about Wade Boggs.
That makes no sense to me at all.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, what are they like?
Water, 0.01% alcohol?
That's American beer, yeah.
I mean, yeah, they're like lagers or light beers or whatever.
Okay, so 3% beers just with the mass and the bubbles.
Like after I drink two, I feel full.
Well, just drunk, full.
There might be a picture of Andre the Giant's hand with a beer can from what I believe.
And it's like, so you're like, oh, okay, that makes toys.
It looks like a mid.
Yeah, I think it might actually be out there.
I feel like I've seen it.
I mean, there's someone who has like a bottle of wine and it looks like a 12-ounce beer bottle.
The guy had massive, massive mitts.
Now, he's nothing compared to like the giant strongmen of today who also know how to lift properly and stuff.
He just was a giant guy who was a farmer.
He was a circus freak, essentially.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh, my gosh, that's hilarious.
That's real.
Yeah, so you could easily see, like, in other words, 10 of those is nothing.
That's quite terrifying, actually.
If he offered me a handshake, I would not.
He may not.
I mean, like, respectfully, respectfully, I can't.
He was also a grumpy dude, but loved children, they say.
Just adored, like, he was the.
Eating them?
Wait.
No, they say that he adored kids.
He's on the Epstein list.
That's why they won't release it.
That'd be a scary, scary.
Couldn't fit on the plane.
Oh, you'd have to plan to meet the flight envelope.
What were you going to say, New York?
So they say the AI things is probably from forums, so not to exactly be, you know, go by that.
But they say that he confirmed to Letterman that he drank 117 beers in one sitting.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's him confirming it.
And again, there's so many other wrestlers saying I've never seen anyone drink like him ever, ever in my life.
When you have many people saying like, yeah, I saw him drink probably at least 40, 60 beers sitting next to him.
And by the way, none of this is to glorify to say that you should.
No.
I'm just saying that.
It's a bad idea.
It was a rough life back then.
He couldn't fit on the planes.
He couldn't fit into the plane.
He used to have to wear a diaper because he couldn't fit in the plane bathrooms in transit.
Oh, no, there's just going to be transatlantic flights.
He couldn't get in.
So imagine that.
You're just going to be able to get it.
Did he buy two seats?
Or did he just screw the person next to you?
No, I think he would buy two seats and he'd have to wear like a diaper.
I think they said something like one of those things like racers use this like a tube, kind of a condom that goes into a pouch.
It's almost like a bag.
Blossoming bag almost.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he was constant pain, constant pain.
And Vince McMahon requested that he come back out.
I think for the Hulk thing, he had retired, didn't want to do it because he just could barely move anymore.
Yeah.
That's sad.
And Hulk, you know, Hulk did a lot.
He was an American icon.
Everyone makes mistakes.
Good for you.
And say your prayers.
Yeah, I do that too.
Yeah.
Told kids to say their prayers, eat their vegetables, don't do drugs.
Yeah, I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to Hulk when I was a kid.
Yeah, you didn't?
No, I just did drugs, didn't eat my vegetables.
Yeah, that's true.
Played with flashing cups.
Well, Hogan didn't.
I don't think he followed his own advice.
No, he was injecting a lot of stuff.
Eat your vegetables, say your prayers, and juice all day, every day.
I think later on, though, he was pretty.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
They have Brian Stelter commenting on this wife.
I just loved his cacks.
Let's see what he says.
Bring it up, bring it up.
He looks erect.
He had a great leotard collection.
When you think about the WWE, there's that word, entertainment.
And Hulk Hogan, more than any other wrestler in the 80s and 90s, knew how to put on a show.
He knew how to entertain.
And he really helped build the WWE into the worldwide franchise that it is today.
It has become such a huge business.
And that was partly on Hulk Hogan's literal back.
When I think about Hogan's legacy, I also think about his legal legacy.
You were talking before the break about Hogan's politics.
We know, of course, how President Trump has been very litigious lately.
Well, who was it that kind of usher in this era of celebrity lawsuits against media outlets?
I would say Hulk Hogan's person that gets that billing.
Hulk Hogan was, he decided to sue a blog called Gawker about 10 years ago at this point because Gawker published a sex tape that he was in.
This lawsuit worked its way through the courts for years.
It eventually bankrupted Gawker.
It was a very big trial in Florida at the time.
It bankrupted the blog, kicked it out of business.
And what we later learned was that the entire lawsuit was bankrolled by billionaire tech entrepreneur Peter Thiel.
He was angry at another Gawker-affiliated blog for outing him a number of years earlier.
So Hulk Hogan's identity.
Yeah, Gawker also smeared me.
I didn't have the firepower that Hulk Hogan did.
They would do that all the time, and there were no consequences.
Imagine, look, this is the thing.
Well, let's listen to him a little bit.
That famous ball.
Yeah.
He's getting the sights, now he's dying.
He ain't strange.
Return of the shots.
Oh, my God.
Return up the socks.
Okay, I'm not going to lie.
I was in a bad mood because Hulk Hogan died, and now I feel a little better.
Had to hit it.
And remember, he also had faked a presidential run appearing on the Tonight Show in a bit of a gag and pretending he was going for president.
He didn't do it then.
But Trump later said in 2024, He'd give him a position as a president's counsel on physical.
This is why legacy media hates shows like this and Joe Rogan.
There couldn't be anyone less appropriate to comment on Hulk Hogan than Brian Stelter and this asshole.
They don't seem like anyone who would have an interest or should be discussing professional wrestling or athletics or masculine activities with you.
That's the best they could find.
They got cliff notes during a commercial break.
Well, and basically what they were doing is saying like, this guy ushered in this bad wave of stuff that bankrupted these poor people over there, and now Trump's doing the same.
It's like, wait a minute, the guy just died, and that's what you're bringing up?
Right.
You're making, by the way, he had a legitimate case against these guys.
Fine, you may not like it.
They stole a sex tape.
Yeah, but you may also not like that it was funded by somebody.
None of that matters if he won in court, by the way.
It's a big deal.
And then to say it's like, well, see, and he started this kind of litigious process.
And by the way, all you pious, disingenuous pricks.
I'm not saying that we should condone degeneracy and we shouldn't have an ideal for our society.
Of course we should.
But I also don't think it's that perverse or twisted for a consenting couple.
I don't remember if it was a couple, if they were a couple, I don't remember if it was one I stand.
I don't remember if it was a prostitute, but consenting adults to have pictures or videos of them having sex.
It's not that crazy uncommon, especially if it's a married couple.
It's not perverse.
Maybe they want it for their private collection so they can watch it and have a romantic evening in.
Everyone's like, I can't believe it.
What?
Like, are we supposed to act now like sex isn't a thing that everybody likes?
Also, he's an athlete.
What if he was doing it like, you know, like Tony Gwynn was doing it?
Yes, you know.
Maybe he was watching it.
He goes, oh, I got to, okay.
All right.
See my hips?
I got to pull my hips over a little bit.
I'm not being very effective with my thrusting.
That's right.
That's right.
I'm losing leverage because you see my right foot right here.
It needs to be about three or four inches closer in and then back.
You got to get a better launch angle.
My launch angle's all off.
But if he's an athlete, if he's a real athlete, he shouldn't be doing that anyway because women weaken likes.
All right.
That's what I mean.
Well, obviously prayers with the family.
I'm sure those affect people who love them, who are close to them.
And this is one thing, too, I will say, this is the problem with, it's all a feminism thing, this idea that a man is imperfect, so it erases his accomplishments.
Like, we all know that Lauren Southern was very likely not raped by Andrew Tate, right?
To start.
But she talks about Tommy Robinson, who's been on this show and how they did drugs together and he was having an affair.
I don't know if she slept with him or not.
We don't know that that's true.
We do know that Lauren Southern did those things because she admitted to them.
Let's assume for a second that Tommy Robinson did.
Let's assume so.
He's also actually accomplished something.
Agree with him or not.
Lauren Southern really hasn't.
And so what they try and do is go, look, Tommy Robinson, who's drawn attention to Muslim raping gangs, who's done time in prison to stand up for his beliefs.
Look, he did something bad.
Therefore, all of his accomplishments are gone.
Meanwhile, you live like a monster, cheating on your husband, doing all the things that you accuse other people of doing, tarnishing his reputation.
And you want to perpetually be the victim.
And that's what happens.
Oh, Churchill, I'm sure, wasn't a great husband.
Doesn't change the fact that he did some great things.
You can say the same thing about Michael Jordan.
Was he still the greatest basketball player who ever lived?
So we got to get out of this habit of erasing a man's accomplishments because of mistakes.
And the big difference, funny enough, it was the first tweet that I just put out myself because I just try and avoid it.
And usually the tweets are taken from this show.
I'm like, yeah, if I say it, it can be transcribed.
Is when you look at the big difference between men's advocates right now, and I don't mean red pill.
I mean, we've had Andrew Wilson on the show.
He's not a red pill guy.
He's an Orthodox Christian who advocates for traditional marriage and monogamy and the raising of children.
Okay.
Now, you may not like him.
You may not agree with him.
Whatever.
But what he does and what you see from these men's advocates out there is they say, hey, look, women, when they talk to women, they go, this is what men want and what men expect of you.
This is what men want in a woman.
So if you want to get the kind of man that you think you should marry, do these things or be single.
Feminists out there tell men how to be men.
If you follow the advice of men's advocates, if you're a woman, if you just follow the advice of, oh, wait, this is what men want?
Okay, that's probably what I should, you'll probably find the guy that you want.
If you follow women's advice, you'll be unhappy for the rest of your life.
That's the big difference.
Men don't tell women how to be.
It's, well, this is how we expect you to be with us.
Women are constantly trying to define what a man is.
It's, oh, he's not a man.
He cheated on his wife.
Churchill, well, I guess what?
He's still a man, whether you like it or not.
Oh, Hulkov.
That was a big thing.
Women were like, this is deplorable.
I remember I can't sex tape, which is degrading to women.
Really, is it?
Did he really do anything wrong to the person who worked for the liberal rag site Gawker that peddled in smear campaigns, taking without permission, without consent, a sex tape and profiting off of it by disseminating it to the public?
Are they the piece of shit?
You don't allow the other gender to define what it is that you should be, because then they just redefine gender and now there's countless genders.
So Hulk Hogan, I'm sure a lot of people have bad things to say about him, doesn't erase what he did.
It doesn't erase who he was and it doesn't erase the impact that he had.
And that goes for George Washington.
It goes for Abraham Lincoln.
It goes for Churchill.
It goes for Donald Trump.
It goes for everybody.
Okay?
Do we have anything else we want to just get some chats?
All right.
Chat Thursday.
We don't have a lot of time.
Oh, it's Chat Thursday.
Shit.
Yeah.
Go.
Chat.
I'm sorry.
I'm still getting into the swing of things getting back and I forgot it was Thursday.
All right.
Well, we'll take it to the end.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah.
All right.
First chat for Chat Thursday from Doso Klakos.
Why would Trump release the Epstein list now?
No political timing, return on investment, and give up your leverage on the most powerful people while investigations are ongoing seems like a dumb move.
What investigations are ongoing?
Yeah, Jelaine.
I don't even, I never know how to pronounce her.
Maxwell.
Yeah.
She's in jail.
Why?
Yeah.
Why is she in jail?
Yeah, also.
There should be other people in that pipeline and process.
If she's in jail for doing something.
It's like, hey, you're in jail for selling 200 kilos of crack.
Yes.
Oh, who'd you sell it to?
Right.
Or I'm a distributor and I have dealers all over the place.
Who are the dealers?
Also, I don't want you to promise me something that you're going to give me something.
I know.
As your voter, or as people call supporter, I don't like the word supporter because I'm not a supporter.
I vote.
I'm not supporters.
I'm not going to your fucking little league games.
Or your open mic.
I'm not going to Trump's open mic.
Yeah.
So he told his voters that he was going to release his stuff and then didn't.
And then you're saying, leverage?
I don't want you using leverage against me.
I voted for you, dude.
I voted for you to do this, not for you to keep it as leverage.
I think they mean leverage against the political opponents who might be in the.
No, I know that's what they mean, but yes, I know that's what they mean.
That's how I feel about it.
No, you say leverage.
I don't want you to use it.
Put it out.
You said you're going to put it out.
I want you to wait till the fourth year.
Right.
Yeah.
He's look, I'm, I'm.
Or, you know, I'm not the like political rocket scientist or anything over here, but if he saw this play coming, he handled it the exact opposite way of what he should do.
If he saw the Democrats trying to use this to kind of bog down his administration because of Epstein files and everything else, he should have come out immediately and said, you know what?
Listen, you guys have known for a very long time that Jeff Epstein was in social circles that sometimes crossed with mine.
This guy was never a close confidant or a friend of mine.
I kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago.
I cooperated with the authorities.
But guess what the Democrats are going to try to do?
They're going to try to show you some footage from a wedding back in the early 90s where he happened to be in the same room.
I may have had a conversation with him for a minute or two, and they're going to try to make you think that I, along with Epstein and everybody else that supposedly is on that list, did things wrong.
That don't buy it.
You can find the files.
If someone had a video camera, you could find videos or pictures of me at banquets with people I can't stand.
That's why I don't go to any of them anymore.
That's why I didn't go to the presidential, the inaugural ball, which I received a formal invite.
I was like, I just, you know why?
Because some of these people are going to do something that I don't agree with, and I don't want to be on the hook for it.
And I'm definitely going to do some shit that they don't agree with.
And I don't want them to be on the hook for it either.
They do the same thing to comedians.
A comedian gets accused of some kind of sexual misbehavior, not even rape or something, just some kind of sexual deviance or whatever.
And they go, oh, look, look, look, look, look, you were on a show with them.
Right.
I'm not best buddies with them.
I wanted $25 in chicken tenders.
What do you want from me?
Yeah, exactly.
That's what they try and do.
I wanted to tell my stupid poop joke.
Right.
It's not stupid.
It's a brilliant poop joke.
Thank you.
It takes a lot of practice.
Eight minutes, but I think it's pretty good.
Yeah.
Eight minutes.
Which, by the way, is the minimum amount of time it takes me to do a poop.
Next chat.
Next chat from Revolution.
You're going to do it.
Do it right.
Next chat from Revan.
All out.
All right, next chat.
You've got to commit.
You got to commit.
Next chat from Revan's Padawan.
Has anyone noticed that everyone who came out against Crowder is crashing?
Oh.
Oh, interesting.
Apparently you said that.
I did see somebody right now.
There's a lot of them.
Southern, a little bit.
Ashley St. Clair, let's not forget her.
Who else is on this list of people that have come out?
Oh, Candace.
Well, no, I said that one to start with.
Yeah, there's just, it seems.
Let's not go on at Candace.
Lauren Chen.
That's right.
I forgot the tenant thing with Lauren Chen.
Let's not go on a vendetta.
Jeremy's a little on the outside.
It's been very interesting to see kind of the look.
I will tell you this.
I'm the same guy.
I believe the same things.
I have the same close inner circle that I've had for a very long time.
And I've not made promises that I can't keep.
That's what I try.
I try to not make promises that I can't.
Of course I'm not perfect.
Of course I've made mistakes.
And of course I made even more mistakes when I was a young 20-something year old in the spotlight.
But I've been in the spotlight to whatever degree now for a longer, probably double the amount of time of the next closest person.
And we've had to weather some storms.
And when you get to a certain point, you see it coming.
You're like, oh, okay, this is going to be what New York Post says an employee sell my balls.
But that was the thing.
I saw a comment on one of your posts the other day.
It was, isn't this the guy that, isn't this the guy that was abusing his employees?
And I was like, first I'm hearing of it.
Yeah.
Well, I also had a custom cappuccino machine and the thing like every, it's like all these things where it's just so you just go, okay, all right, fine.
But you know what?
Haven't had a scandal of being sued and being wrong.
Haven't had a scandal of making a claim that is verifiably false as far as fidelity, as far as drug use.
You can read rumors that I'm a man whore, which of course is very, I'm one of the few people who you can prove that's not the case through court records for at least nine years.
And then rumors that I'm gay.
You can read.
Rumors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you can just like, you can go either way.
Take a pick.
It's going to go both ways.
And people, that I'm an Israeli shell and that I'm a Nazi.
Whatever.
I don't know that everyone's crashing.
I do know that, yeah, the people you mentioned, Lauren Southern, Lauren Chen, Candace Owens.
I think there's definitely a point to be made that a lot of people who made accusations or a lot of people who made claims about you are now showing that they have a pattern of behavior that shows that they don't always have the right facts or they don't always have the exclusive scoop or that they will lie about something.
Well, this wasn't covering behavior.
Yeah, it wasn't just covering the situation, which is understandable.
Like if you're covering a situation, you're trying to understand what's going on and you may have an opinion that, you know, but this was like, this was outright attacking.
This was outright coming out and trying to try to destroy.
And look, I'll just say it, this is obviously a strategy going on.
We all know who was behind that strategy to try to destroy you.
Sure.
To extort you.
I talked about this on the show.
That was extortion.
Yep.
That was the whole plan behind this.
And I'm going to dangle your career in front of your face and say, if you want to keep this, you'll do exactly what we say.
And that is evil.
I'm sorry.
And we didn't talk about it until we had to talk about it.
I still have never talked about it beyond acknowledging that it was happening.
And I don't.
No more.
But I will say this.
I will say this.
You talked about projection.
It's not for you because you can't talk about it and defend yourself.
I can.
I choose not to.
I know.
Yeah, but you're doing all right.
I will say this.
It Was clearly projection on the grounds of those three that you mentioned.
So, Candace Owens, he's actually lying, and these people are going to get fired.
No, Candace Owens has been found to be someone who lies and puts other people on the hook.
Okay, that is projection.
Lauren Southern, what a horrible husband.
Okay, we now know that you were doing drugs, out gallivanting, and I believe confirmed cheating on your husband, the man who you claimed was an absolute monster and you had to get your kids away from.
Talk about projection.
Lauren Chen, at one point, she was with the Nick Fuentes thing.
And oh, look at all big conservatives.
They're the ones taking money and they're the ones who are bought and paid for, was literally taking money knowingly, in her case, knowingly from a foreign asset and lying to people who she was paying about it.
So in those cases, those specific examples is they were accusing me of doing something.
And even in their accusations, they were much, much milder than what they were actually doing.
Okay, let me do this.
Lauren Chen, you're right.
I get money from Muggs.
You get money from Russia.
Okay, Lauren Southern, you're right.
Okay, imperfect husband, everyone, things, even the edited stuff taken completely out of context with no infidelity and no ability, according to long-standing court records.
You were doing MDMA and cocaine in England with other men.
Yeah, but she wasn't smoking a cigar.
Right, yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Okay, Candace Owens, liar about Nashville.
Okay, but all of that was right.
You just make shit up.
And sometimes it's proven verifiably false, and you're going to be on the hook for it.
I can't marry a lord.
You can.
I mean, I technically could.
You could.
Yeah, you can.
Yeah, I technically could.
It is 2025.
So I have to be prudent.
And it's not like we don't, it's not like we're ever walking on eggshells.
Like, can we say this?
Can we not?
Because we just start off and go, okay, well, what's the story?
What's true?
And then we base our comedy or whatever we do around that.
But we make sure that the points we just start off with, of course, we're trying to be correct.
Right.
Well, look, perfect example from this show.
Commenting on Trump's handling of the Epstein case is not going to win us any friends.
Some people will be happy that we talked about it, but a lot of people that are just like, anything bad about Trump, anything negative should just be kept to yourself.
There's a lot of people like that.
We're not trying to hurt the guy.
We're trying to make sure he avoids these missteps because he's doing such a phenomenal job.
Even at that, you know.
Yeah.
Hurt the guy or not hurt the guy.
You know, right is right.
Wrong is wrong.
Yeah.
And also what they're getting.
Yeah.
He handles it wrong.
That's wrong.
Them saying, and look at this private birthday letter, which is false, is wrong.
Just like Candace saying, there's no photographic evidence.
There is.
Next chat.
All right.
Well, next chat from Sleazy Banana Slug.
Uh-oh.
Question for the crew.
Should Trump fire Pam Bondi for this giant flop?
Yes, yes.
If so, who would be a better person for Abbott?
I don't know who would be anyone.
For this giant flop, no, for a lot of reasons, yes.
There was somebody that they floated recently that would be really good.
I can't remember the name.
Crap.
Never mind.
That doesn't matter.
I thought it was going to come to Columbo.
Not Matt Gates.
Matt Locke.
Nash Bridges.
Matt Locke.
If it was Matt Locke, not the new one with Kathy Bates, the original Matt Lock.
Oh, the original.
Yeah, if it was Matt Locke, it'd just be Donald Trump every day getting on your phone call like, what in the holy hell?
Matt Locke's in another car, Chase.
Oh, no.
So I genuinely would sooner put anyone in this room in that position, and I believe they could do a better job than Pam Bondi.
Just because I don't believe she's very capable, and she has too many intertwined interests, if you look at her background.
Also, you know the integrity of the people in this room.
Yes.
There's that.
Somebody who's incompetent is sometimes more desirable than somebody who is.
Yeah.
And I don't think that any of you would give up competency to Pam Bondi, but I think she gives up integrity to anyone in this room.
And I just also, I don't, no one in this room is compromised to the degree that she is.
So I would sooner pick anybody.
She should have been fired.
She never should have been given this position.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from Mariano Alvarez.
Question for Crowder.
I understand why you're not willing at this point to assume Trump was slash is in on the Epstein files cover-up.
What would slash should be needed to convince you otherwise?
Okay, if the files were released and it showed that Donald Trump still maintained a friendly relationship with receipts for a long period of time with Epstein after he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago, post-conviction, I would go, okay, well then this isn't necessarily, and it seems like there might be something there.
There would have to be a significant ongoing relationship after the conviction and after Donald Trump coordinated with authorities.
I mean, for example, it'd be like coming out and someone, someone who, let's say, got involved with criminal activity because they were raised in a bad neighborhood and didn't quite know and got pulled in, you know, and then them going, oh my gosh, I don't want to be involved with this, and then went and alerted the authorities and worked with them.
And for the rest of their life, someone going like, yeah, but you were in a gang.
It's like, well, yeah, hold on a second, though.
Like, they did change, right?
That does matter, especially if you, I guarantee you, people did not know right off the bat that Epstein had a sex island, right?
Like, you kind of have to ease people into the sex island thing.
That's not in the brochure.
Yeah, you don't lead with that.
No, I guess for most people, I mean, it seems like there was a moment from what we know now, and again, that's what would, hopefully that answers your question, that's what would change it, that Trump was around with it because he was around everywhere where people were wealthy.
Probably like, oh, yeah, hey, do you like golf?
I love golf.
Yeah, and do you like, do you like private jets?
Love private jets.
Can't get enough of them.
You like 14-year-old girls?
The fuck?
That's what seems to have happened.
Next chapter.
We all want the information released, but I really don't like this whole idea of guilty until proven innocent has kind of taken over.
It has, but again, it's part of the missteps.
The missteps have led people to run down every conspiracy theory trail that is out there because they're not handling this the right way.
So that's the problem that I have.
Like we've made jokes, it's a very weird combination, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Bill Clinton.
Yes.
But you never heard me say they were going to Sex Island.
It seems like they were doing some kind of thing, you know, like kind of like a live aid type thing, speaking for some sort of philanthropy organizations.
I don't know what it is.
You never heard me say, oh, Chris Tucker was banging chicks on the island or Kevin Spacey.
I mean, if anything, we know that Kevin Spacey was not banging chicks on the island.
Or if he was, it was part of his coverage.
His flavor.
What?
She's 14?
Call me when you get a boy.
Stop it.
I didn't write these rules.
I just call them.
Stop it.
All right, next chat.
Next chat from Warman10.
Question for crew.
With a great trade deal being made with Japan, which country do you hope is next to make similar deals?
Canada.
No.
No.
Well, actually, you know what?
I hope they do or they should be.
I do want Canada to have a great deal with us.
Yeah.
They're great neighbors to the North or whatever.
They were.
They were.
They suck right now.
I know Lane the Brain was definitely holding out for this one.
This one was the biggest for him.
I think.
I don't think I'm misspeaking.
They're one of our best partners in the world.
So this deal getting done, I think, made a lot of sense.
He's also very biased towards Asian countries, but I don't know if there's anything.
Pan seems good at business.
They seem like good at making compromise for business.
Good at immigration, good at business.
Yep.
Good at riddar cars over there.
When it comes to racism, they're tops.
They're actually aces.
They're aces.
It's one of those things that want to be worse at racism, but they're very good at racism.
Yeah.
Now I get why you stand up so often.
My butt cheek has fallen asleep.
It does.
Does that ever happen to you?
It's like what do you think?
Where my butt cheek meets my butt streak.
My butt streak?
My butt streak.
Stop it.
Like Andre the Giant.
I wear a diaper dinner shirt.
That's true.
Boxers are briefs.
That depends.
I does for fun.
I could hold it, but.
They were briefly boxers, but now.
Next chat.
You just make that kid face where you're like.
Yeah, white boxers was a bad choice for yesterday's sketch.
All right.
All right.
Next chat from Ibrahim Asmadeus.
Asmadeus, Asmadeus.
Question: Do you think the deportations are affecting the blue-collar job market the way the Dems are crying?
It is.
Ginger Snap, one of them there.
We had a source, and I didn't think it was necessarily super relevant.
I might have been wrong about that.
But, you know, under Biden, there were no native-born American jobs created, but many, many millions of foreign-born workers.
And it's switched now, where I believe a million new native-born jobs have been added.
And I don't remember the number of foreign-born workers.
Those jobs have actually decreased.
So it suggests that it's actually just rebalancing.
I've never bought into the idea that these people are doing jobs that Americans refuse to do.
Nope.
I'm sorry.
It's just there's no evidence of that.
People try and point at them and it's like, well, if that was the case, why would they hire them?
Because they can get cheap labor.
They can pay them under the table.
They can control them more easily.
It's indentured servitude.
So I don't know.
What are the Democrats trying to say right now that, oh, people aren't able to do these jobs?
Because we're not seeing it through inflation.
No.
We're not seeing it.
We're not seeing it in all the other economic indicators as far as labor force participation.
The one metric that we're going to be able to do is under Trump so far.
If that was, I mean, you would just call that a rebalancing of anything else.
You'd be balancing the scales.
So to me, I see that as a win.
It's crazy that people see that as a loss.
It's crazy that people see that as a bad thing.
Listen, it's wild to me.
Yeah, I couldn't.
We could disagree on so many other social issues, but that right there, it's crazy to me that people are like, that's a bad thing that more Americans are getting jobs.
And it's also a net job gain if it's 1.5 versus 1 million loss.
Yes.
Which means there's a rebalancing where it's going to people who absolutely verifiably have a right to be here.
Not that all foreign-born workers are here illegally, but priority should be placed on people who are here, not visiting, and a net gain of jobs overall.
Great.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from Amanda D. Nice1.
Question for the crew.
I'm neutral on Candace, but why should someone from another country be allowed to sue someone in our country?
We don't even share all the same laws, and he doesn't live in Delaware.
Yeah, I understand that.
I mean, this is where we have to, we want to get Bill in on here because he understands sort of the jurisdiction issues.
I don't know if she has a dual citizenship because she's married to a lord.
As I understand it.
I thought it was claimed in the filing.
I know it was claimed in the filing.
So it's kind of a complicated issue, I guess.
She's had some strong opinions on that.
So if that turns out to be the case.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, I was automatically granted dual citizenship because my mom is, even though I was born in Detroit, my mom's Canadian.
And I've been on air saying, how do I renounce it?
I just, I mean, I just don't have any, I don't have any evidence of a Canadian citizenship at this point because my birth certificate is American.
I don't have a Canadian passport.
I don't have my social maladie, my socialized health care card.
There's no proof that I have that automatic Canadian citizenship and I've just never sought it.
But if I need to, if there's a way for me to publicly renounce it, I would love to do that.
I don't think you could even convince Canadians that you were a Canadian citizen.
I mean, I lived there.
What did you present to the authorities?
I lived there?
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I lived there from three to 18.
It doesn't matter.
They're not going to give you citizenship for that.
We kick people out for that here in this case.
No, no, no, but I automatically have it.
No, I'm saying, I know.
I'm just saying, like, if you walked up as John Doe off the street and said, hey, yeah, I don't have any paperwork.
How do you prove you're a citizen?
Well, I can't.
Right.
So I guess it solved itself.
Yeah.
I agree with you, I understand, as far as suing because we have different, here's the thing.
We do have different freedom of speech laws, right?
The First Amendment.
But just look at the Donald Trump case.
Look at the, not Cal Rittenhouse, but Nick Sandman case, these defamation cases that have, look at the Gawker case, those occur domestically.
So that's not a First Amendment issue.
In other words, people can be liable for defamation, for slander, for libel here in the States, even within the same state, certainly within the same country.
So I would imagine that there's a case to be made that we still all have a pretty similar standard of defamation and libel.
So it's not like the courts that they're suing Candace through are the American courts.
Yes.
So that's where it would because you don't have to be a citizen of America to sue somebody in America.
No, that's exactly right.
No, and I think this is honestly a good thing they sent in a note.
Like, we do want to make sure that, you know, because if that was the case and we couldn't sue somebody over there, they couldn't sue over here.
They could just spew blatant lies about us.
It doesn't matter where it's coming from.
It can still be disseminated in that country.
Right.
And I would have no recourse.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
So I think that.
But it goes both ways, too.
Like, if the tables are turned and they're saying Candace is a hammerhead shark.
Yeah.
Would Candace be able to go use the French courts?
She'd have an uphill climb with that one.
Yeah.
But she'd be able to do it.
She'd have to subject herself to violence.
But our country, you know, our country is different.
Yeah.
I will say this.
It would be very different, for example, if they were suing her on the grounds of something, you know, like English law.
Like you said something offensive that is hate speech, that should immediately be thrown out.
It's like, well, that doesn't apply here in this country.
But the civil liabilities of defamation absolutely apply.
They still apply either way.
Yeah, just like, let's say you're on vacation here in the States and you get raped in Miami and you go, but of course you're allowed to come back and press charges because you're still a human being.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's a great comparison.
It's not real.
Romania, like when you leave, you can call the police and file a police report there.
Are you talking about Southern?
Oh, yeah, the non-rape of Lauren Southern and Andrew Tape.
And I'm not a hunting chicken.
It's Romania, right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Okay, final chat.
And then what's the clock with Rumble Live lineup right now?
Who goes on at 1 Eastern?
So it switched back and forth for a minute, but I think it's back to Russell Brand, right?
Social Brand?
Okay.
All right.
So final chat, and then we are going to send the rest of you on to Russell Brand.
All right.
Final chat from Deepati.
Praise God, the crowderless July is over.
With so many wins, despite Epsom.
Hold on a second.
It wasn't a crowderless July.
And it wasn't even two weeks because we released two very labor-intensive super videos.
Technically, we did our last show July 2nd.
It's still July.
Our last live show.
Listen, last live show, but then it was holiday for July 4th every year.
Yeah, basically off for them.
We released something on Monday, and then we released something the following Monday, and then the following Wednesday we came back.
Yeah.
So it would have been three weeks minus two episodes minus the July 4th holiday.
Yeah, so less than two weeks overall.
Yeah, so you're Julying right now.
We're still July.
Well, to give you an idea, when we do a super video like that, we'll often miss at least one show, sometimes two, because it just takes so much time to do.
So, you know, it's the best we can do, and none of us get a full two weeks off when we do it.
But anyway, that's it.
We did a vacation.
I needed a reason to go almost get kicked out of Legoland.
I need a reason to almost get into a fist fight at Great Wolf Lodge with a douche lifeguard.
I told that story on Aaron.
We both almost got into fist fights a different.
I don't think I did.
I'll tell it tomorrow.
Give you guys a reason to tune in.
There you go.
What's the chat again?
All right.
With so many wins, despite Epstein nonsense, what is your thoughts on what should be the next policy focus?
Josh, thank you for your service.
And I'm guessing Rangers lead the way.
All the way.
Yeah.
I assume that's correct.
What would be the next focus?
Gosh.
Focus should always obviously be the economy.
The focus should be, I just heard that they're now offering incentives to bring back ICE agents who retired, including like signing bonuses, because I think 10,000 quit, if I'm not mistaken, under Biden.
So bringing them in, so actually making sure that those funds are appropriated so that ICE can step up the deportations.
Because I will tell you this, that is something that We can't forget that we need to keep our foot on the gas before the next election because you're not going to actually see the positive change until we hit the right number of deportations, and we've already largely solved the border being secure.
So that's still important.
Of course, it's still important to focus on these trade deals.
It's important to always try and foster the best economy possible.
I'd like to see some specific policies that help small or medium-sized businesses.
What were we about to say?
Section 230 stuff.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah, of course.
I knew there was something hanging out there that was still unresolved.
He's touched on a lot of different topics, but that's one right now that is still out there.
And look, from what I've seen and what I've heard, it seems like some of these sites are actually loosening their guidelines a little bit, but that's it ebbs and flows.
They're never really fully.
It needs to be codified into law.
Exactly.
And you need recourse.
Yeah.
As somebody who's out here creating content, you know, like if you're on YouTube and that's your platform and they just shut you down for no reason, like one, why are you just on YouTube?
But two, like that, there has to be some kind of way to fix that.
Yeah.
With 230 in place, there's never going to be a way.
Right.
No, you're absolutely right.
And like we've said, it really is an easy first step.
And the fact that no one has been doing it yet is remarkable.
It's one of those, it's kind of like Epstein, it becomes political football and people don't really do what they kind of all agree should be done.
So Section 230 gives them safe harbor protections, which means that Facebook, you know, Meta, YouTube, Google, Twitter, TikTok, they're given these safe harbor laws where they're treated like a, and I've talked about this quite a bit, but it's always good to have a refresher, they're treated like a digital town square, where basically, or they're treated like a utility, just like Verizon isn't liable.
If you call and say, hey, neo-Nazi meeting at 4 p.m., okay, great.
No one can sue Verizon and say, hey, you're supporting neo-Nazis, right?
Because at that point, it's treated as a utility.
Now, the problem is these social media platforms are treated, they're given protection as a utility so that they are not liable for what's on there.
If someone posts a horrible comment, of course, they shouldn't be.
As opposed to a publisher like New York Times or Wall Street Journal, they're going to find out very soon that if you publish something that you chose to publish knowingly, you are held responsible for that because you're a publisher.
Not just anyone can post there.
The problem is these platforms claim that anyone can post there, and they have very egregiously been removing people because of points of view, not just demonetizing, but removing and censoring, in some cases at the behest of the government, as we saw with the Biden administration.
So it's a really, really easy first step.
You just need to sit them down and go, okay, so are you a utility or are you a publisher?
For a utility, you have to follow speech laws.
You have to follow consent laws as far as states, meaning investigative journalism.
You have to follow the state laws.
You can't make them up.
If it's a single-party consent state, you can't remove investigative journalism.
You cannot remove people because they do something that you deem offensive.
And you can't strip people of their ability to make a living.
And that's either removal, ban, shadow banning.
You cannot favor certain people based on point of view.
Otherwise, you will be treated as a publisher like the Wall Street Journal, like the New York Times, which is how you're acting right now in selecting and modifying content.
And if you do that, enjoy your lawsuits.
We're going to see you tomorrow.
That Lifeguard was a real dick.
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