#411 WHAT THE POLLS GET WRONG! | Daniel Cormier and Eric Nimmer Guest | Louder With Crowder
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That was my Bozo the Clown inflatable boxing bag when I was a kid.
It used to kick the crap out of me.
I had no idea.
It took me about four times.
Boom!
Snap!
What the hell just happened?
Speaking of which, I was 14.
I was 14.
After I got my butt kicked in the male's locker room, in Jim's locker room.
Daniel Cormier is on the show today.
Light heavyweight champion, heavyweight champion.
Probably his last fight coming up on Saturday.
Really?
And his manager is a fan.
He's just a decent guy.
We'll be talking a little bit more in general about fear, about life, about strength.
You're probably a fan.
I don't know.
That's actually, for those who don't know, Third Chair, Nim the Great on Twitter, and it's just Eric Nimmer on Instagram, right?
Yeah!
Comedian, he tours a lot with Owen.
Very funny gentleman.
What's the wine of the day, G. Morgan Jr.?
We have a little Taylor Flatgate Late Bottle Vintage Port.
Taylor Flatgate.
Oh, by the way, I had an old bottle of Port that turned out it was good.
It was great!
We tried it.
You praised it.
Quarter Black, show Nimmer your hood pass.
Yeah, what's up?
Follow me on Black Twitter.
I'm very uncomfortable.
Black Twitter.
I want to see some black-on-black violence erupt right now.
Right now.
Go.
Nimmer, you have my full and complete authority.
We're talking about the election, by the way, everyone.
We're talking about the election, the polls.
So question of the day, before we get to other stories, right around the corner, what do you think about the polls?
Do you trust the polls?
Do you think the pollsters get it right?
How valid are they, if at all?
Are you expecting a blue wave?
I think we're probably going to... It's going to be more of a pond ripple at this point.
But what are you thinking with polls?
I hear a lot of people going, well, the polls got it completely wrong before, so polls are completely invalid.
I don't think that's necessarily the case.
And I don't think that they're the end all, be all.
Don't let it manipulate your voting behavior, however.
That's what's most important.
And of course, subscribe on iTunes, and let's get Instagram to verify me.
Our top story today, Kanye West, well, not really even today, but people are still talking about it because he won't go away.
He announced on Twitter that he's distancing himself from politics.
Yeah.
From the BBC.
My eyes are now wide open and I now realize I've been used to spread messages I don't believe in.
I'm completely focusing on the creative.
Also, I'm Jesus.
He really is.
I'm being crazy.
This is what you do.
We'll run a clip at some point, probably the audio only version if you're not on iTunes because that can't go out live.
Remember when the Kanye thing happened?
I think he might have been here.
And I said, hold on a second.
This is the guy.
He's going to change back.
Let's stop with the hero work.
Yeah, exactly.
He was kind of crazy to begin with, a little bit.
He's a little crazy.
Well, actually, yeah, you know, we have exclusive of his new single, and I mean, if you listen closely, even according to his, if you look at where he is lyrically, he seems a little confused.
La, la, la, la, wait till I get my opinions right.
I had a dream I could get with Owens Candace.
Said the sun revolved around the Earthses.
I was my guy for about a second.
Man, it's so hard not to change positions.
Don't know what, I think I kinda guessed it.
Hard to know the truth when you were just the bestest.
Liberal then MAGA, then again a liberal.
George Bush, still don't care about black people.
Lied to keep escaping me, even as a baby mama couldn't get through to me.
My sneakers, pay less screwing me.
I'm on Twitter begging you just to buy them please.
I'm just telling you the truth man, I ain't completely literate, I don't know how to read man.
I was pro-Trump till I changed him.
I guess I didn't get the acronym.
La, la, la, la.
Wait till I get my opinions right.
La, la, la, la.
Then you're gonna buy my sneakers, right?
Excuse me, did you buy my sneakers?
Nuh-uh, you didn't buy my sneakers.
We just wanted half of you to walk out right away.
And mission accomplished.
Right away.
That didn't really take a long time for that to come around.
No, it didn't take long for me to be confused.
Somebody had to be in his ear like, just, are you insane?
By the way, apparently Lionel didn't realize.
You must know this, Eric, right?
His sneakers tanked.
Yeah, the Yeezys.
I just want to be the one on the record saying that all of his opinions aren't wrong.
Taylor Swift is terrible.
Yeah, I knew!
You did not know.
Before the show, Edwin, he wasn't here yet, and they were all like, what are you talking
about sneakers?
Yeah, no, the Yeezys.
Yeah, they were terrible.
I just want to be the one on the record saying that all of his opinions aren't wrong.
Taylor Swift is terrible.
I agree with that.
She remade Earth, Wind & Fire September, and I've never hated something so much.
I'll tell you what, Brodigan, who works with us, is a huge Taylor Swift fan, and he's the
kind of face that black people see in their nightmares.
Not long ago, he would've been the Hell's Angel with the beard showing up, like, we heard that you kissed a white girl.
That's so true.
It's so true.
He's the sweetest guy.
But if you were to see him and just put a leather three-piece rocker on him, you'd be like, oh my god.
We'll let him know how you feel about Taylor.
Oh, she's terrible.
I agree with that.
I love Brodigan.
Really?
I don't think she's terrible.
I love Brodigan.
I think it's weird that he likes Pitch Perfect.
In tech news!
No engineers are organizing a walkout over an alleged sexual harassment.
This comes from BuzzFeed.
The, quote, women's walk is to protest recent revelations about Google's protection of employees that had allegedly engaged in sexual misconduct.
The walkout will occur, it seems like, this week, while the remaining engineers at Google are planning, quote, the best casual Friday ever.
Yeah, they seem pretty happy about this.
Yeah, I'd be happy with that one.
I think that's a female on the poll.
No love lost.
You're not even JavaScript.
They didn't all walk out.
We're going to get letters.
But send us your comments about the polls.
That's what really matters here, folks.
Not the racist Asian jokes.
They can take it.
We were actually able to obtain an official copy of the women's walks, I think is the kind of group it's been called, complaints, including some of the alleged, of course, the comments and questions that were made at Google.
So we've actually collected our favorites for this week's 7 Plus 1!
You forgot Stefan in the chamber!
Never forget the one in the chamber as everyone here well knows.
7 plus 1 this week.
Top sexual assault comments from Google employees.
We didn't know what to title it.
Number 7.
Do you know the difference between software and hardware?
DOS titties.
Actually, the bullet makes sense.
Let's have Nim the Great give us number 6.
There you go.
You so fine, I never ban you for dead naming trannies.
Boom!
Oh, there you go.
It sounded so much nicer when he says it.
It did, yeah.
He really does sound like it.
You need more of like a militant black voice for that.
Yeah, exactly.
Maybe next time.
Like Kanye, like Kanye pre-Trump.
Maybe he'll go back to that, you know?
I don't know.
It's kind of like Mike Tyson.
He was like, well, first I want to say I'm very glad for my sponsorship with Wheaties.
I want to thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Fast forward two years.
I want to make orphans of his children.
Praise be to Allah.
Don't talk to me unless I've fornicated with you, bitch.
It was a fast turnaround.
It was a very fast turnaround.
Do you know what the common denominator was?
It's long.
Number five.
Top seven sexual assault comments at Google.
Number five.
Your Google ass looks great in my Google Glass.
It is definitely not a thing.
Remember Google Glass was going to be the next big thing?
I thought that was going to be like the thing.
And I'm like, eh.
Do you remember that?
Do you remember the Google Glass?
No, I don't at all.
Was that the thing that they want to flip down and have like your everything?
No, you're thinking of LeVar Burton in Star Trek, which is understandable.
That's actually what I thought of when you said it, I was like, ah.
That was the most, like, they designed something that couldn't possibly, imagine being on set with LeVar Burton.
Oh yeah.
He must have had an assistant, just a seeing eye dog assistant, basically.
That would suck.
It's like, all right, am I on the spaceship?
No, you're at craft services.
Well, I don't have to take your word for it, that's.
All right.
Number four, for people who don't know Reading Rainbow, I don't care.
We'll give Nim, Nim number four.
Hey, you wanna go Star Wars prequel and chill?
I think they hate the prequels.
Which ones are the good ones?
That seems a little bit on the nose, a little derivative.
I love how Engineer Abby is like, it's okay to laugh at this.
Your mother already knows that you work on this show, Abby.
It's okay, you can laugh.
I'm taking number two because I won.
Number two sexual assault comments overheard at Google.
This is actually the women's walk women's walk.
It's because it was March Number two you should see the Yelp reviews on my cock.
It's mostly four stars, but one girl was a bitch By the way, I don't like the- It's always that one review.
After we wrote this, I was like, it should be Google Place Reviews or something.
Or what's, uh, they bought Zagat?
Something Under the Google Umbrella, Rodigan.
Were you too busy watching Pitch Perfect 19?
Wait, what was the name of that?
He's quite a fan.
What was the other thing?
Zagat.
Wow!
That's a very common thing.
It's like, it was before all... Zagat was restaurant review, Meg.
Really?
What kind of childhood... There really are some cultural differences.
Man, you white people have strange things.
Well, I'm just saying, that's ballsy in the internet area.
Be like, hey, did you check the Zagats?
Like, how did the Zagat report on it?
Like, ew.
You can never trust a zagging score.
It's pretentious.
Actually, we're going to have G. Morgan Jr.
read the number one comment overheard at Google that spurred the women's walk.
I've got a Google map straight to your heart.
No, say number one.
Give it enthusiasm.
He needs to give it enthusiasm.
Number one.
I've got a Google map.
Split the difference.
Damn you!
Number one, I've got a Google map straight to your heart and c**ks.
Yeah, by the way, I told you I was going to bleep that.
We're not.
Oh, come on!
And the top Google sexual assault comments ever heard at the office that led to the women's walk.
The plus one, did you fall out of heaven?
Because I'm an autistic atheist who really wants to have sex with you.
That's been this week's 7 Plus 1.
You forgot to turn in the chamber!
Oh Google, when will they get it right?
I'm really scared, though, that this could backfire for all the women.
Like, it's like, they walk out, and then it's like, oh, wait, this is the greatest work experience.
Like, their stock just skyrockets, and now you have an office full of sexists now.
Turns out sex offenders are incredibly productive.
Look at our bottom line!
Look!
Profits up, bitching down!
Yeah, well look, they're actually pissed off about something that happened four years ago.
The guy who invented Android got a big buyout and the claims were never even substantiated.
He was supposedly somebody, he had sex with somebody in a hotel room, right?
Or got him to give him a bulls**t, right?
But it was never proven at all.
Gerald is just throwing all different kinds of heat today.
That's the word that gets used in this case, right?
No, don't repeat it.
Wow.
Because you're outing me here.
Censor button.
Censor button.
What are you talking about?
They're pissed off over that.
It happened in 2014.
The buyout that he got $90 million.
Back off from the mic a little bit.
You're giving everyone a heart attack because it's like... This is the thing with Gerald.
Before the show, he tests it and then he starts... What the hell are you doing?
He gets too excited.
It's like when he gets around a black guy.
Lottie, Lottie, Lottie!
I haven't used black voice once.
No, he hasn't done it with you because we read him the riot act with the Hodge twins.
Oh, he did it with me the first time.
I actually told him right before the show.
I was like, I'm proud of you for yesterday.
You went the whole episode.
You didn't do it because I was waiting for you.
But it comes from a place of love.
Yeah, but there's more than just the Android thing now.
This isn't just about the Android guy.
There was three total guys, but he was the one.
They were pissed off because he got a buyout.
Yeah.
So anyway, whatever.
Also because he raped them.
Never happened.
Before we get to polls, before we get to the election, the final story of the day, a St.
Louis daycare has now been running a fight club ring, which was caught on camera.
It's not exactly UFC 230, which Daniel Cormie will talk about next, but watch the clip.
A disturbing sight.
A class of preschoolers watching as two kids rain punches on each other.
It's being called a fight club for kids.
Epic.
Boom.
By the way, if you continue watching that, that mom there is one, she's like an inch away
from yelling out World Star Hip Hop.
She's jumping, she's like, oh damn, oh damn.
Like it's 2 o'clock in the morning at a Whataburger.
Wait, are we offended by this?
Because I got at least 60 on the kid in blue.
Like he kept his elbow in and I think he got him.
I think, yeah, I got you.
Yeah, let's do it.
Here's the deal.
This has become viral because too many people have the problem with the obvious.
Kids beating each other up.
Having watched the video, I'm actually more concerned with some of the mental health of the children in question.
You don't know where I've been, Lou!
You don't know where I've been!
You don't know where I've been!
Where's my juice box, Lou?
Where's my juice box, Lou?
Where's the juice box man?
Juice box or fighting where Gerald is incredibly confused because he's I don't think Gerald's ever seen fight club. I
love fight club Are you kidding me? Oh, he's just Benny was just disturbed.
I was very disturbed. He was watching like this clip why would he do that all right
Anyone have anything else they want to move on here, or is this all going to be rested on me today?
Okay, good, I guess.
I'm glad I took some caffeine pills.
Listen, listen, it's following the script.
Gerald writes, Android guy!
They were upset because of Bio, and then, like, you're like, okay, Joe, that's a good idea, and then it's like, that's all, that's it, that's all they're mad about, the Android guy.
That's all they're mad about.
Oh, right, that's why it's not Lionel West G. Morgan Jr.
Or Nimmer.
Or Nimmer.
Don't be the toadium laughing for me.
None of you.
None of you.
Band of brothers.
No, I'm kidding.
Although, did you see the fan that he had the Minnie Mouse at U of M?
Yeah, she was like, I'm Gerald's fangirl.
I never knew that.
She's excited.
See, that was actually a test.
It did happen.
But it tells me that Gene Morgan Jr.
doesn't watch the show.
Which is why he's incredibly ill-prepared.
It was on yesterday's show.
For those who are Mug Club members, please tweet him that he does not watch the show.
OK, so let's look at the election.
I think beforehand, I'm not really a political guy.
I think actually you probably are more than I am.
I know Ben Shapiro, Brodigan, is brilliant with this stuff.
So what are the odds saying right now?
For Republicans to keep control of the Senate, it's about a 6 in 7 chance.
And then there's a 1 in 7 chance that Republicans keep control of the House.
OK?
So very likely that Democrats Take control now.
It's kind of a flip.
That being said, I think Democrats are going to be surprised.
I don't know if anyone else has any opinions on this or if I'm going to be resting here by myself.
I hope so.
Jerk.
I definitely have opinions on this.
I think because of the Kavanaugh thing that we're probably going to see a lot more people that are Republicans do better or win, but I'm worried that it happened so long ago in political time, right?
For some reason we forget stuff after about a week.
And so something usually has to happen within the last week of the election to get people out to the polls.
And I don't know if that carryover is going to happen.
Putting a get-her-done flag on a bomb outside of an envelope doesn't do it?
Is that not a needle mover?
Maybe something else.
I think they're probably going to win the house.
I do think they're probably.
But by a very, very slim margin.
I think the blue wave, if you're expecting a giant blue wave, I think they'll be surprised.
That's entirely conjecture.
Eric, what's your take?
Oh, they'll be like bipartisan movements and working and Congress will become effective.
Like, you know?
I don't know.
It's far easier to be a cynic than to tell us how you really feel.
Exactly.
It's just like, ugh, this lunch sucks, rather than tell everyone in a school cafeteria that you're hurting inside.
Sorry I didn't go to the Zaggit's before I ate lunch.
No, Zaggit is a grading system.
He really doesn't know much.
He doesn't realize it's not a restaurant, it's a system of ratings.
It was Yelp before Yelp was a thing.
I just feel like it's a slur that you guys got away with.
It is a biracial gay.
A zebra f***ed Zaggit.
No, it's a real thing.
So wait, I'm... I would be... And by the way, also, Zagat's have to be incredibly unfunny, apparently.
Oh, seriously!
Have you ever seen Trevor Noah be funny?
Accidentally?
There was... His first special wasn't horrible.
Okay.
Soon as he got money, it just sucked.
It destroyed him.
I think all the political stuff he does sucks.
I just think he's not funny.
I thought Jon Stewart was brilliant and very funny.
Yeah, yeah.
And I disagreed with both of what he said, but I really... I also don't find Chris Rock funny.
I think Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy... I just don't find Chris... I feel like I'm told to like Chris Rock.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I don't know.
It's not fair to say that polls are always wrong.
Neither of those positions are correct.
But, and I think this is very important because the left wants you to do this, you certainly shouldn't base your voting habits on polls.
We'll talk about mental strength, mental fortitude with Daniel Cormier who had to overcome some serious adversity in his life.
It's the World War II propaganda, you know?
You have already lost the war!
The Judens are all dead!
Give up hope!
They did that!
They used to do it in private, right?
That's what the left is trying to do, and I think they tried to do it with Trump, and all of a sudden the national polls closed quite a bit with Trump nationally, right before he won.
They gave him a 99% chance that Hillary Clinton would win the national election.
Well, you were with me that night, remember?
Our entire election stream was just tuning into The Young Turks and watching the New York Times odds numbers.
It was great.
It was one of the best nights ever.
So I have a legitimate question for you.
Why do we even have polls in the first place?
Let me frame the question a little bit.
Polls affect how you vote, like you just said.
If you're in a place where you're voting for somebody who's going to win, running away, then you're probably not going to go vote.
Or maybe you're on the fence and you're not going to go out, right?
And so if the poll says they're going to run away, you're going to stay home.
So, I don't know that I even like polls before the election anyway.
See, I disagree.
I don't know what their purpose is.
Their purpose is for people, obviously, there should be polls for people who are running for office.
I understand that these are valuable... Well, yeah, but that's internal polling they do all the time.
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
I don't care.
Because if someone is that easily influenced, then they're an idiot who's probably not going to vote.
I know, but that's the majority of the electorate, unfortunately.
No, it's not.
That's the thing.
And that's actually why polls are inaccurate.
No, no, the truth is that's why polls are inaccurate very often, is that they don't necessarily, they're not, there isn't a good mechanism, there aren't effective metrics in place to measure voter enthusiasm.
Right.
So, I mean we'll talk, I think we have a source later from Fox, young people lean overwhelmingly left, they don't vote.
It's the same thing with black people, except for Obama.
It's the same thing.
It's why they weren't able to measure Donald Trump.
They don't have a metric to sort of test enthusiastic voting bases who really are a quiet majority sometimes.
So that is why they get it wrong.
And I think that's important.
And I do think that they try to manipulate that by putting out these polls, this doomsday scenario, because they actually want to manipulate public opinion.
But I want them to try, because and it's even sweeter.
I'm not actually mad at black people not voting this time around.
Like at first I used to be like, what?
We should get out there.
And then I was on Twitter.
I was like, wait, so if you come out as a Republican, CNN calls you a coon.
If you come out as a Democrat, they say you're on a plantation.
Either way, it's done.
I don't know what CNN... No, I mean, like Twitter.
They'll be like, oh, you're just a slave on a plantation.
Are you talking about, like, two people who say that stuff?
No, that's the argument.
Candace Owen says that.
She says, like, if you vote Democrat, you're just on the plantation.
I was like, wait, so I'm a coon?
Candace Owen says that.
The difference is, the Democratic Party tells you that you're a traitor and not black enough if you are a Republican.
The Republican Party doesn't say you're on the plantation.
One person does.
No, the Democratic Party, actually, you know, they've always said, not black enough.
Apparently Hillary Clinton's more black than them or because she says, hot sauce, before they stab her with a dazzle pen.
Let's go through just a few polling debacles that come to mind.
There are three, but two will just kind of set them up as a clout.
Brexit, they were way off.
Unless they just override the people's vote, which they're trying to do right now.
Yeah, which is what they do.
But they could override in retrospect.
Our entirely polling numbers seem to have been incorrect.
Well, let's screw them against the wall, shall we?
Bernie Sanders, as much as I don't like him, I think he's crazy.
I'm not talking about winning the primary against Hillary Clinton because she had more money than God.
Sometimes I'm pretty sure that God calls up Clinton and is like, ring ring!
You know, I don't like making this call.
But I have a Tesla to pay for.
She's paying for it, too, man.
She was absolutely going to be the president, and then Barack Obama, and then absolutely going to be the president, then Donald Trump.
So she didn't win the primary and national polls, but they were very, very inaccurate with Bernie Sanders in a lot of states.
For example, Michigan, where Jean-Guy went.
You saw Journey for Bernie.
I think Clinton had a 99% chance of winning.
It's a 90-something percent chance of winning in Michigan, and Bernie won handily.
So they got that completely wrong, and Bernie was like, Yes!
Score one for all chromagony Jews!
Socialists.
I thought our time had passed!
Um... It really is blooming late.
Thank God for Cortez!
Nina Pinter, Santa Maria!
I love that filthy bitch!
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No idea why!
No idea why!
And then, of course, the number one polling, this is the obvious, Trump's election.
Almost all of the polls got this completely wrong.
And I will say this, I thought that he was going to lose.
Remember before this I said the election?
I said, listen, don't ask me because if someone like Thomas Sowell of Charles Krauthammer, rest in peace at that point, and even Dick Morris, I mean between foot massages, got it wrong.
I'm not the guy who's going to get elections right.
So I'll offer you my opinion on what I think regarding certain candidates.
When it came to the election, I said, I think it's probably a 60-40 chance Hillary wins.
I didn't say 99% like the New York Times, but I did put more trust in the polls, and I learned a lesson.
Yeah, so when we were doing that show, I was actually preparing myself to talk about Hillary Clinton in some kind of light as the winner.
Like, I knew she was going to win.
You're like the person who prepared an Oscars acceptance speech, and you're like, what?
Meryl Streep won?
How did that happen?
Exactly.
Grace!
Grace!
Go ahead.
It's my favorite scene.
And then we're over there and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is actually happening.
I can't believe this.
And the best part, and I'm sorry, I know this makes me a bad person to some degree, is when they showed people at her campaign celebration headquarters, whatever, crying.
I'm like, yes!
I'm so sorry, but this has sucked for the last eight years.
No apologies.
No apologies.
By the way, you're eating the mic a little bit there, quarter black guy.
But yes, not only that, he came in really close.
I was like, what the hell?
He's like LeVar Burton, he's got the visor on.
Where's my microphone?
As he says, no apologies.
No apologies.
Like, what are you doing?
Still no apologies.
You're not that bold.
The worst part I held a grudge against you back then, we were talking about strength and strength of character, we've been talking about that quite a bit.
Trotted someone else out for the concession speech, remember?
Didn't even show up.
She's like, how did this happen?
Again?
I know.
Well, she was passed out because she was like, just, just take the pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan.
She was just backstage in her cot.
I think she's that crazy.
So it comes down to why were all the polls wrong?
And then we'll get into what they're doing with these polls now because the blue wave isn't going to be as big of a blue wave as they thought.
I hate that they have to get, I hate micro, this is actually that we were thinking of doing a live election stream.
We might, let me know if you want us to do it.
It's just going to be so boring.
Like national elections are interesting because of the cultural ramifications, but like Ted Cruz is going to absolutely just murk Beto O'Rourke.
I really hope.
It's not even going to be close.
So outside of that, there isn't really a whole lot that interests me.
How did they get it wrong?
Again, They were right about general opinions, these polls.
It's hard to predict who actually votes on election day.
The likely voters thing.
Romney, actually, I think they had him winning, or it was really close up until election day.
But fewer people, the cavalry didn't come over the hill for Romney, less so than even McCain, if you can believe it.
Well, it's because Romney shut it down in the second debate after he killed Obama in the first one.
He didn't energize his base after that.
No!
He was the only one who went after Obama in the first debate.
Destroyed him in the first one.
He just stepped back because he wanted to play a nice guy.
And then you have people like Bernie or Trump who can energize a voting base, like we said, who typically wouldn't vote.
And that's true.
I don't know if it culturally as a black person if you have most of your family members and friends voted
Oh, yeah, my mother well most black women black women Oh good, it's kind of like going to church like they'll be
the ones like you better do it and everybody else like So it's kind of emblematic it's like the women are like hey
Let's do this is the right thing and then when it comes time to actually do it the black man out there. Oh
What the oh?
Oh, come on.
It's not as bad as your voice.
I was just about to be proud of you for using the word merc.
I was like, oh, he used it.
Like, it's like you have black friends.
I was proud of you.
That's a gaming term, I thought.
It came from gaming merc.
Is that a black term?
Yes, it's a black term.
Why?
How so?
To merc someone?
Like to murder out something?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a gaming term.
No, it's a hip hop thing.
No, no, no.
We stole it.
We appropriated it.
Sorry.
All right.
So this is what I was talking about.
Like, for example, black people often don't vote.
They came out and they voted quite a bit for Barack Obama.
Yeah.
Young people typically lean very left.
It's a lock.
Generation Z, like I've talked about, you can search on this channel, not so much.
They're still more liberal, but you can count on them getting very conservative as they get older, because they're more conservative at this point in their life than even Gen Xers, or certainly millennials.
But they just don't vote.
We have a source, I think, here from Vox.
So the question is, how do you get them to turn out young people specifically, right?
This is what happens from the left.
They're kind of, remember that?
Remember, actually, it was P. Diddy.
Was he P. Diddy, or was he Puff Daddy at that point?
I don't know if he did.
No, he was Diddy.
Is he Diddy?
He was Diddy.
Is he Diddy now?
He's Brother Love now.
Really?
No, I swear.
Are you screwing with me?
No, I'm serious.
He's Brother Love now.
When did this happen?
Like a year ago.
Yeah, about a year, year and a half, something like that.
Isn't that from The Nutty Professor?
That's Buddy Love.
That's Buddy Love, but thanks for playing.
You know what though?
I bet you he probably sat... He was watching The Nutty Professor.
He was like, man, I wish I had a name like Buddy Love.
I actually know it.
I know.
Brother Love.
Did you see the story that made him do it?
Did he shoot someone in a nightclub?
It's worse, actually.
He went to his kid plays football for UCLA, and the coach was yelling at his kid too much, so he took a cowbell and smacked the coach inside the head.
Really?
And he was getting charged, and all these things came out, and he was like, call me brother love.
I'm actually peace, love, and happiness.
Oh, is that kind of like Metta World Peace, where he wants to punch out fans?
He just wanted some more cowbell.
I don't think he was that clever.
I think he was like, I'm just gonna grab any bill I possibly can and hit him and didn't change my name.
That's a great skit.
Look, I changed it on my license.
See?
Can't get me.
They're like, no, he still can.
I don't think that's how it works.
So they're trying to get the youth vote.
P. Diddy did the Rock the Vote campaign and Cameron Diaz.
I remember back then it was, I think it was George Bush versus John Kerry and Cameron Diaz was on Oprah and she said, if you don't vote guys, it's like saying you want rape to be legal.
Even Oprah was like...
I don't know what's going to happen here.
I'm going to start my own network.
If it's going to fail, then hire Tyler Perry.
Enter beta or work.
They're pulling out every single stop in the book right now to try and get young people to vote.
Like literally putting him on a skateboard, kids!
I wish he would fall off right there.
Bam!
I'm going to kickflip my way into office!
But you don't have to take my word for it.
Where's the mic?
Oh, I don't know.
Here's one that's really, really shame.
Beto's... Have you seen this?
Again, they're trying to make it really cool.
The YMCA dance.
Uh-oh, here we go.
Filming.
This is the thing like, that's like Hillary Clinton with hot sauce.
The pandering doesn't even work.
Like, what are kids like?
I know, a washed up gay cover band in the village people.
That's what they like.
They don't listen to you.
Hey, I don't know, should it be something like, should it be something like Drake or something?
Nah, I'm pretty sure we're gonna go with the village people.
Hey, what's the deal with that gay S&M Folsom street village person?
That one doesn't really make sense.
That's for us more so.
That's for after party.
There was not even one person accidentally on beat.
Like, that's the most mayonnaise video I've ever seen in my life.
Oh, really?
No?
Really?
You think so?
Is that what you think so?
All right.
Hold your tongue, sir, because let's go to the next clip.
Hey, Jamie.
Is that Ben?
Yard?
Uh-huh.
It must be great volunteering at his phone bank.
Is he ahead of Ted Cruz yet?
Uh-uh.
Once you go better, you're never going back.
Oh.
Can we get them internships at Google?
Um.
This is like killing me.
Is that not worse than the earlier clip?
I was so glad that you said it.
Wait, that's not real.
That's real.
You are just out of touch with the youth.
Don't be fooled because black don't crack.
This man is not, he's not young enough to know what the kids are into.
They're into this.
Wait, that was, that's not real.
Ted Cruz bought that.
That was brilliant on his part, but Ted Cruz is hiring all of his campaigners.
All right, now it's very important.
It's very important that she misses the high note.
And I want this to appear to, I want it to take place in a subdivision with no trees, so it's very clear that they had no budget.
Not ironically, but truthfully.
And all white people.
I really think, I'm really, like, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I think Ted Cruz's campaign has been texting my phone under Beato's name, and doing, like, and shooting all of these commercials, like, all of this is, because nobody would do that to themselves.
Uh, well, they wouldn't.
They think it's gonna work.
Because here, look, elections, unfortunately, have become a beauty contest in the United States, right?
Instead of looking at the skills that somebody has or their abilities... Come on, you're so... No, I'm pissed off at that!
What beauty contest is Donald Trump winning?
He's judging them through a one-way mirror.
It's not a chewing gum.
I think that's a born club, okay?
No!
That was Miss America.
I don't think they're a beauty contest.
I think they are a beauty contest.
Let me just say it this way.
Donald Trump rallied a base of people that was mad.
15 years ago, 20 years ago, Donald Trump stood no chance.
You had to rile up an entire base of people first for that to happen.
Barack Obama did the exact same thing.
Basically went out and said what everybody wanted to hear.
I'm going to heal the nation.
I'm going to take us in the right direction.
didn't have the ability to do any of it and screwed it up.
We are not looking for the best qualified candidate. We're looking for somebody that makes
us feel good. And that sucks because politicians will always make you feel good. They're always
going to say what you want to hear.
I think that's true to a large degree, but not entirely.
Wait, you don't, you don't feel better after the village people in Greece?
No, no, here's why. I'm going to make a prediction right now. Stephen, you're right. Beto's going to
lose. And right after that, they're going to try to get him to run for 2020. Not only is he going
to lose this race and suck at it royally. And I can guarantee you won't win in 2020.
You know why?
Because I'm going to interview him as a tranny.
Like Wendy Davis.
Yes, you have to!
But that's exactly what they're going to do.
They're like, this guy's got it.
We watched your video in the suburb.
It was great.
By the way, for people who haven't seen the Women's March video where Stephanie interviewed Wendy Davis, I never expected that to happen.
Oh, it was awesome.
We just go ask Wendy Davis if she'll give an interview.
And then they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, really?
And then my wig blows off with the wind.
Mid-interview.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so embarrassing.
She's like, it's totally fine.
It's totally fine.
Oh my gosh, you are never going to make it in our office again!
This is wonderful.
I'm glad she went away.
And by the way, I'm very familiar with the pandering, not just for the youth vote, but as we know from my... Here's the thing, I hate to just bash Canada.
I wish I were more proud of Canada than I am.
But you want to talk about pandering?
It's a niche vote, but it's an important vote.
The Indian vote.
vote. Let's look at the prime minister of my former home country.
It's like... I mean you thought a black... you thought a white guy trying to do a black dance is embarrassing?
He somehow made it even whiter to do the Indian dance.
The bar's pretty low though, come on.
Watching that made me want to put on a diaper and go on a starvation diet.
We gotta get white people out of Indian culture again.
You don't need a diaper if you're on a starvation diet.
Tell that to Gandhi.
I don't think Gandhi thought ahead.
Really.
I just think Gandhi had a lot of followers.
It was unwarranted.
He would have worn a vest if he thought ahead.
Alright, so here's the point.
We have to get to Daniel Kermey.
Polls are often wrong.
More importantly, they're not the end-all, they're not the be-all.
They're seeing this big blue wave.
Here's the thing.
It could be true, but it's certainly what the media wants you to think.
They could have believed beforehand that Donald Trump was going to win What was it, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania?
Pennsylvania, all of them.
I actually said, I think he wins Pennsylvania and Ohio, I remember, and I was like, I think there's no way he wins Michigan.
And that's just because in Michigan, yeah, I knew too many people in Michigan, but the truth is he appealed to a lot of the union voters who probably might want to support Trump this next go-around.
So, I said, no Michigan, but I think he wins Pennsylvania and Ohio if you go back and look at it.
They said, there's no way he wins Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
They said he doesn't win anything in the Midwest.
So, they could have actually thought that, but we know for certain that it is what they wanted.
And it's what they wanted you to believe.
And it's what they wanted everyone in Michigan to believe.
And in Pennsylvania to believe.
And right now, they may believe that there's this big blue wave coming, or they may not.
What we do know is that they want you to believe it to stay home and not vote.
And that's why you see the desperate pandering for votes.
And by the way, here's one thing too in a very unpopular position that I hold.
Tweet me if you disagree.
I really don't care.
I hate get-out-to-vote campaigns.
I hate them!
I can't stand them.
If Kanye West is at home and someone makes it through the gates and says, excuse me, sir, have you thought about voting this election?
Now you see I'm Jesus.
They're like, well, have you looked at the issues?
I'm gonna vote now because you rang my doorbell.
If that's what, if that's the struggle, I don't want you voting.
Stay home.
People who are uninformed to vote.
I don't understand.
There's nothing virtuous in voting.
Voting is not the end all be all itself.
It's a means to an end.
And the left just wants any person they can load up onto a bus and give a free sandwich to vote to vote.
I don't want you voting.
People who do not understand the Constitution, you probably shouldn't vote.
People who do not.
It'd be like playing fantasy football and you have no eye.
It'd be like me playing fantasy football.
I don't play it because I know I'd lose.
Sure, I might roll the dice and get it right, but that's not how you're supposed to play it with a constitutional republic, regardless of what Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Kanye West, or Drake, the butter-soft bitch from Toronto who I don't even think can legally vote.
but tries to act like he's from Memphis, tells you if you don't keep yourself abreast
of all the issues, if you're not informed, stay home, don't vote.
I don't want you determining the fate of our country.
We have Daniel Kermit coming up next.
Hopefully he does.
He was late, he missed last time.
I have a bone to pick with him.
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Too Cute Maddie is standing in the corner there.
She walks in the middle.
Just go to your post, Too Cute Maddie.
Our next guest, I'm really happy to have.
Who's that there on your TV?
DC.
It's still a horrible nickname I maintain, but you can follow him, of course, at DC underscore MMA.
He is fighting against Derek Lewis, whose nickname I'm not allowed to say.
No, you're not.
No, I'm not.
Do you think that's just a guess?
Okay, well, Daniel Cormier, for people who don't know, thanks for being back, sir.
Thank you for having me again, man.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, especially after you stiffed us the last time.
If you were not the baddest man on the planet, I would be upset.
You could be upset, but instead of Crowder Confronts, it would be Cormier Confronts.
Crowder!
Pleasant!
It'd be more like, Cormier beats Crowder's ass as he curls up into fetal position.
No, you know, mine is ideologically confronting, and yours is, you know, you beat people up.
But you're a sharp guy, so maybe you can answer this.
Derek Lewis, well, he calls himself the Black Beast.
Is that just a gag on white people so that if we say it, like, in the wrong restaurant, we get our asses kicked?
See, it's like if Derrick Lewis walked in and you guys are going, the Black Beast, the Black Beast, the Black Beast, it just kind of gives him an out to just start beating people's ass.
It's like Derrick wants to reserve the right to just beat people up, and so he gave himself that nickname.
But it is a nickname where it's almost like, Should I say it?
Should I not say it?
It's one of those deals, you know?
Yeah, and if you're Papa John, you just scream out the N-word on a conference call.
You're like, I don't know what happened there.
Why would you do that, Papa John?
Actually, by the way, he was quoting someone else who said it, and still he's no longer Papa John.
No more Papa John.
Can't do it.
Just can't do it.
You don't eat Papa John's anymore?
I never really was a big fan of it.
The dough's a little bit too thick.
If there's a food that I don't like, you know you've got some problems.
You're more of a New York-style pizza guy, not a deep dish.
Yes, I like it a little thinner.
Your nickname is DC, like we said, which is really just an initial.
Are you upset at all that you didn't take the Black Beast beforehand?
You know, sometimes guys just aren't creative.
You know, I'm not the most creative guy.
I'm going to go ahead and stick my headphones in, Steve, just so I can hear you a little bit better.
Well, I can't tell you any differently because you're you.
There we go.
Now I can really hear you.
OK.
I wish I would have...
Did a better job of picking my nickname, but here's the deal.
I went to school at Oklahoma State, and at Oklahoma State, they don't do the best job of choosing nicknames.
They're not very creative.
Right.
So they're the ones that started calling me DC first, and then it just kind of stuck.
I had never been called DC until I was in Oklahoma, because Coach Smith started saying it all the time, and then everybody else just kind of picked up on it.
Yeah.
And this is, by the way, an opponent I want to say for people, and we'll get into more kind of macro issues as well, everyone, here's one thing, everyone else on the planet would be terrified to fight Derek Lewis, right?
You're strongly favored.
You're expected to beat him.
And I know you've talked about before how being an underdog really drives you.
You know, for example, going back in with Jon Jones, that was just a legendary rivalry.
Does it ever worry you a little bit that people are kind of expecting this to be just a walkthrough for you?
You know, I just, I think it's on me to make sure that I prepare myself to the best of my ability.
I can't let the odds dictate how I approach the fight.
I've been a favorite before.
I mean, I was minus 1100 versus Patrick Cummins.
I was minus 900 against Dan Henderson, who's one of the greatest mixed martial artists of all time.
And I was still able to implement my game plan and fight him in the way that I wanted to.
Well, hold on a second, hold on a second.
For people who didn't see those fights, you ragdolled both of them.
It wasn't even close.
That's why I wonder if you're like, oh man, sooner or later, I'm rolling.
Time's up, because you did.
Dan Henderson, no disrespect to any of them.
It wasn't even close.
You know it.
I know it.
So there's that little bit of, you know, as a victor, where you're a little worried, like, oh man, I don't want to get overconfident.
At some point, he worried that, is it going to be me at some point with a guy throwing me around like that?
I'll never say, I will never say I ragdolled him.
I leave that for you to say.
You ragdolled him.
You literally picked up, and I love Dan Anderson.
For those who don't know, he picked him up, watched that, and he went, It was bad.
It was one of my better performances.
But my whole deal is this, right?
Dan Henderson's not a guy you truly want to mess with.
I messed with him in the confines of the octagon.
I would prefer him to approach you Just in random environment instead of me.
So I'm not going to sit here and say, Dan's an avid hunter.
He knows how to shoot a bow and arrow.
This guy is a true, true bad man.
He has no teeth.
Dan, hey Dan, I love you, bro.
I know.
Listen, like I said.
Even the one over here talking crazy.
No, I'm not!
I would love to have Dan Anderson on the show.
I would love to have Dan Henderson on the show!
You like both of them.
I remember back in the day when he was in Pride, I was like, man, I would love to see those superfights.
Everyone was talking about Vanderlei Chuck.
I was like, no, no, I really want to see Dan Henderson come over.
He was the man, Steve.
At that point, Rich Franklin.
Remember?
And I was like, I think Dan Henderson, really?
And I like Rich Franklin.
Dan was the man.
He was, yeah.
But, you know.
He was the man.
You ragdolled him.
Okay, so someone who obviously everyone else would be afraid of.
Did you do anything, speaking of which, spooky for Halloween?
What did you do for Halloween?
We I have my kids and my wife here so we went to uh one of my friends has a nice apartment in town where he had like I don't know 600 apartments but they listed all the ones that were giving out trick-or-treats and uh We went to these doors, up and down floors.
My kids wanted to hit every one, which was absolutely impossible.
So we went to a few, and then we went to the gym, and the guy that was working the gym was kind of like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, DC, DC, DC.
So then he just stuck his hand in the candy bin, grabbed as much candy as he can grab, and just threw it in my kid's bag.
And I was like, OK, guys.
Halloween's over now.
That's plenty of candy.
What are we going to do with all that?
What I really learned from that story is that the person at the front desk of the gym was gay.
Treat me like Dan Henderson!
That's what I learned from that.
You might not even realize it.
You know what it's like actually my friend Gerald who's in here he doesn't realize when he talks with black people he does a black guy voice.
Have you ever encountered those people where someone's like, oh man, don't, don't even mention it, bro.
He's like, what the hell are you doing?
You're from Schenectady.
Uh, so yeah.
Okay.
Gay Jim Renner.
Okay.
So we're talking.
He wasn't gay.
Stop that.
Let me ask you, let me ask you this.
Any plan, I believe in a closed ballot box, are you planning on voting coming up this, uh, these, uh, elections?
Uh, just say yes.
I honestly, honestly, There are some elections coming up very, very soon, but I've been so busy worrying about the fight that I haven't really paid attention to much.
My wife is all about it.
That's good to not say.
Whereas a lot of people are like, man, I haven't been paying attention.
I'm going to be first in line to vote.
It's like, OK, you know what?
Hold back a little bit.
I did have this question because, obviously, Khabib recently had his scuffles, to put it that way.
And you worked with a company, the UFC, Dana White.
I don't touch it.
I just don't touch it.
and Khabib obviously not a big fan.
You've managed to really stay out of the fray as a, someone who's on TV constantly as a commentator.
Are you ever put in the middle of that at all?
Or is it just something you just carte blanche, don't?
I don't touch it.
You know, I just don't touch it.
Because the reality is there is no winning, right?
There really is no winning.
Either you're here or you're there.
And I just would rather not be involved because then it doesn't isolate me from here
or it doesn't isolate me from here.
And so I just kind of stay away from it.
Like, I really don't.
Like, my views and my thoughts are my views and my thoughts, and I don't need to, uh...
I don't need to really share them, you know?
And if you express one, you could have Dana White mad at you, and if you express the other, Khabib's entire troop of Dagestanis will stomp you into the ground.
Everybody, I mean, it's just, there's no winning.
There's no winning with that.
No, never.
Let me ask this.
We've been talking about this kind of as it relates to the current climate.
A lot of people talk about being afraid on all sides, like you said.
Let me ask you this.
As the baddest man on the planet, you know, it's kind of, this is what's obviously bestowed upon the heavyweight champion and light heavyweight champion.
What is Daniel Cormier?
What do you fear?
Like, genuinely, what scares you the most?
Like, Brazilian Wandering Spider notwithstanding, that's at the top of all our lists.
You know, I mean, I think my fears are the same as everybody.
I mean, honestly, we came to New York City on Sunday for the fight, and I was just Halloween, you know?
There's a reason we went to my friend Jimmy's apartment, because it's terrifying to be out on the street nowadays with your children.
And I think that's my biggest fear.
My wife was talking to me about going to a parade.
And I was just like, man, I don't know if I want my children in a very densely populated place and crowded, because that seems to be the time that people want to do the craziest things.
Yeah.
And I was like, man, let's try to do something safer.
Like my biggest fear is that something happens with my children.
I mean, all these Horrible, horrible things that are going on almost daily now.
I just want to try to shield them, uh, my kids and my wife from as much as possible.
So that's what scares me.
And that's honestly, I'm, I'm very safe, Steve.
Like I don't, I don't really go many places with big crowds at all.
Concerts, basketball games, football games, as much as I would love to go watch the saints play every week or Oklahoma state.
I really don't because there's always that, that underlying fear that, uh, Things are so crazy right now in the world.
You know what?
That's something I've had to deal with a lot, obviously.
I'm not as famous as Daniel Cormier, but especially with what I do, you know, listen, sometimes it can be more polarizing.
And I'm curious as to how you balance the idea of sort of either paranoia or anxiety in public places versus a legitimate healthy fear.
I had tickets to Tom Jones.
I know Tom Jones and Alice Cooper.
And I missed both concerts because I got to a certain point where I said, you know what?
I just don't want it to be a powder keg with my Yeah.
And to everyone else who doesn't really understand it, it's a different kind of problem that you run into.
Like, oh, stop being paranoid.
How do you balance, okay, this is a healthy fear versus maybe I'm blowing this out of proportion?
I think safer is better.
Like, that's just kind of my idea.
Like, I'd rather err on the side of safety than take a chance at risking it.
And then ultimately it costs you something that's so terrible that you really can't bounce back from.
Right.
You know, when you, when you say you missed the Tom Jones concert, well, you missed the concert, but at the end of the day, you still have your wife and you guys didn't run into any issues.
And those are the things that really matter, man.
It's like, you just can't, it's like you just, when you live in the public eye, especially as you are, right?
Because you're very, uh, vocal about your beliefs.
Whereas I just kind of stayed, stayed to stay clear.
Right.
You're vocal.
So, I mean, there are going to be a certain, there will be certain people that truly even want to hurt you or people that truly support you.
And sometimes your supporters are very dangerous because they kind of crowd you.
Have you ever been hurt by fans?
I actually had a finger jammed really badly once by a guy.
I reached out and it jammed my ring finger like hard.
You ever had something like that happen?
Well, just grabbing, right?
Like people will grab you, right?
You'll be walking somewhere and people will grab you and they'll grab you.
And I mean, it's just scary, especially my kids.
They're on TV a lot.
And even the other day, we're in New York City and my wife is walking down the street with my children, holding them each on one side, took them to Dave and Buster's.
And she said, as she's walking down the street, a guy starts walking towards him, gets down on his knees and starts to open his arms like he's going to hug my son.
And I always make fun of my wife about Uh, when I'm at home, I kind of hide in crevices, and she walks out and I just go, wah!
And it scares her, and she freezes every single time.
And I say, well, what happens if you're in public and somebody does that?
She goes, I'll probably freeze up.
So when she told me the story, I laughed.
She goes, did you laugh?
I said, yes.
Because when the guy went down to hug my son... It wasn't the gym manager, right?
No, it was just some guy walking the street.
He went to hug my kid, and she yelled, don't you touch him.
And she kind of kicked him.
And I go, I laughed because you did not freeze.
You instantly protected our kid.
And she was like, don't you ever touch him.
And she told Daniel, don't let anyone touch you.
Because people see them in the public too.
And for her, she didn't really choose a public life.
She married someone.
that has a public life, it's her and our kids have to kind of live that way, too.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's a real thing, and it's scary.
Good for her, though.
You know what?
I think you do get a little more lice.
I don't know if you feel this way.
For example, we did this big show at U of M, you know, and thousands of people showed up, and there was this after-party afterward, and there was a guy from Michigan State sitting down who just started really trying to start a fight.
To be fair, my friend was Liberace for Halloween, Owen Benjamin.
He's a pianist, Six foot seven, two eight.
He's a giant, so he stands out.
He's got a big pink rhinestone cape.
And I'm in assless chaps and short shorts.
And he's like, so what, you like an effing gay cowboy?
I said, yeah, man, I guess so.
And he kept trying to go on for a fight.
And I have to say, he was an African-American gentleman.
And obviously, people right now with their attentions, I was like, I don't want to get into a fight with this guy because of the liability.
Now, that being said, if this guy were shoving someone like my wife, because he did get a little bit pushy physically, I think I'd probably go berserk.
And it's probably- Well, you would have to.
Like, your wife maybe freezes when it's her, but with her children, that mama bear thing kicks in.
It kicks in.
And I'm happy it did, you know?
And she told my son, even, don't let anybody hug you.
Like, you don't have to take pictures if you don't want to.
You don't have to let anyone hug you, you know, just because that's not that's not part of the deal, you know, they're just.
Two kids with their mom trying to enjoy New York City.
Yeah, that is creepy.
That's really creepy.
Very creepy, man.
I mean, I get awkward with kids I know, like my friends when their kids are there.
Like my friend Johnny Boy, my producer, his daughter has a major crush on me.
She's like, I want to marry you!
I'm like, oh, that's sweet.
She's like, no, look at me.
Look at me.
You're everything I've ever dreamed of.
To make it more awkward, I turn to Johnny Boy and I go, John?
I would never take advantage, bro, just so you know.
And you can make us even more available.
Get your daughter, John.
Get your daughter, yeah.
She is very, very aggressive at a young age.
So, you did, last time I think even with us you spoke about this, that you were planning on hanging up your gloves, I think your birthday in March, your 40th birthday.
Yes.
And you're not only broadcasting with MMA, but I know you've talked about branching out into other sports.
You're just a good commentator in general.
I think you break the mold of what a lot of people think of.
What a lot of people think of MMA fighters, they think of something in their mind's eye that is the Black Beast, let's be honest.
Even though he's not that way, but the nickname.
So you have a career afoot in broadcasting.
Are you hanging up the gloves still, March?
Is that set in stone?
Yeah, the data's still the same.
I'm not, I'm looking to fight this time and then hopefully fight Brock Lesnar beginning the next year and then that'll probably be it.
I mean, I just don't want to be that guy that goes out on his back, man.
We've seen so many of our great champions, uh, that had all these shining examples, these moments that are etched in our minds forever, but they stay too long.
And by the time it's over, they're getting beat by people they never would have gotten beat before.
So, um, it's, I don't want to be that guy.
I want to leave people with the memories that I have had up to this point.
You know, case in point right now, we've got Chuck Liddell fighting Tito Ortiz.
I mean, those guys aren't broke.
They're not broke guys.
People think these guys are fighting for money.
They're not broke.
They want to fight because they still think they can fight.
I just wish my memories of Chuck would stay him in the octagon, just going crazy.
Or Tito Ortiz doing the gravedigger thing, you know?
But it's like they're fighting each other and one of them has to lose.
Right.
And that will be something that will be stuck in your mind.
Imagine if you're Chuck Liddell and you lose this fight.
You're up 2-0.
Yeah.
One of the greatest rivalries in the sports history.
You go and give this guy the last one?
It's like... It doesn't make any sense to me.
It's, it's, it's... No, it doesn't.
It's no reason.
Chuck Liddell's peak and he won two fights.
And then, you know, who knows what Tito's doing over there?
Who knows what anyone's doing over there in Bellator?
Let's be honest.
They could be walking... They're not even fighting Bellator.
They're fighting for Golden Boy promotions.
Oscar De La Hoya is promoting the fight on pay-per-view.
And I mean, I love Chuck.
You know, I think Tito's a great guy too.
I just... I just...
I worry about what happens on that night.
Yeah.
No, I think you're right.
Let me ask you this.
You were really tense at one point in your career.
I think kind of in that period where you've talked about how you really felt you had something to prove, and you really didn't like John Jones, then you couldn't get back at him because of all the drug controversies.
We seem to see a relaxed, really happy Daniel Cormier.
I know you're generally seen as an affable guy, but to me it's noticeable.
Let me ask you, is there some kind of a A corner you've turned, or is it just because you keep winning?
Like, do you think that you can maintain this demeanor?
I know we have to get going soon.
Do you think you can maintain this demeanor and this calmness if you were to lose?
Or do you think it's just victory makes you so... No, it's just who I am.
And also, Steve, me not having to cut all the weight.
Yeah.
And I wasn't saying... I was just telling... There.
Stop.
That's better, right?
Does that take off some of that light off of my face?
You look gorgeous either way.
Yeah, you look good.
I'm gym managering out here.
Stop, man!
No, go ahead.
You looked right in the way.
Thank you, faceless man, for helping.
That's Bob.
Thank you, Bob.
That's Bob.
I'm sure it helps, but you do seem much more relaxed.
It's not cutting all the weight, Steve.
What was that?
Oh, wait.
It's not cutting all the weight.
I'm fighting up at heavyweight now, so I'm not losing 45 pounds to get to the fight, you know what I mean?
And also, just really, Being content with everything that I've accomplished in this sport.
I mean, win or lose this weekend, which I won't, you can't take away what happened in July, right?
Those images of me with two belts will always remain the same.
And I think there's a comfort in that.
There's a comfort in the accomplishment.
And I know that even though I'm comfortable in the accomplishment, I'm not ready to let it go.
But I am who I am, and that'll never change.
People can't take anything away from me anymore.
Well, I'm really glad to hear that, and I'm sad to hear that you're hanging them up.
Just make sure two things, promise me two things.
You're not just going to gain a ton of weight and be a walking coronary like a lot of previous O-line men in football, that, you know, you're going to stay healthy.
And don't get in a propeller plane.
We saw how that ended with Rocky Marciano.
We don't want to lose you to an Elm tree.
Never.
Those are two things you don't have to worry about.
I gotta be careful with eating too much.
That's one thing I gotta be careful with, but I gotta be on TV for the rest of my life, so I gotta maintain at least some sort of You know, this beauty that I have on my face.
Look at that.
I even got my teeth fixed, Steve.
Look at that.
Now, did you wait?
Because, you know, hockey players don't get their teeth fixed because we talk about crazy fighting.
As hockey players back in the day, enforcers would have 40 fights in a season.
They have to get right back on the ice.
So they just never fixed their teeth until the end of their careers.
Was that a conscious decision for you?
Yeah, it was time.
You know, I started to do more things like your show and more like more national things outside of mixed martial arts.
And there was an idea or a way you need to present yourself when you're doing
that.
And it was time.
I could have done it a long time ago.
And I also knew that, you know, as I get closer, you know, it's time to get it done.
I put it off, put it off, put it off, because if this thing gets knocked out Saturday,
I just go get it fixed again.
Right.
I only have one more fight.
But five, six years ago, I had 13 more fights.
And if it was getting knocked out every single time, it really didn't benefit me.
So, it was just time to get it done.
But was it tough?
Like, were you ever self-conscious about it during that time?
Like... Not really.
I mean, it kind of became who I was, you know?
I've always had, like, partials that I could stick in.
Oh, that's right.
I just chose not to.
I always had things that I could, like, put on my... put, like, a retainer and all this, but I just chose not to.
I was always comfortable with who I am.
Well, you're a bold man and you're braver than I am because I get really pissed about all these gray hairs that I have at 31.
I'm like, what's going on, Kim?
This is Captain Fantastic.
This is bullcrap.
And then my wife's like, you should just for a minute.
I'm like, you're supposed to support me as I become a silver fox.
You are.
I'll tell you one thing, man.
The guy that has glorious hair like you and it's all silver.
I think that's a winner.
Make sure to distinguish.
Exactly.
Well, thank you.
But it's... No.
No.
I don't care that you can kick my ass.
You can grab me by my still brown hair.
No, I'm going to let it go gray.
I'm not going to do the... The worst is when someone goes gray, and then they dye it, and they don't do the gradual dye.
We had a pastor come in one day, and it was bright blonde.
November 3rd.
November 3rd.
That's Friday.
Friday the second starter wins.
I saw you yesterday at the State.
Yeah, come on, dude.
Come on.
Final question.
Obviously, the fight, I want to make sure it's a Black Beast.
Derek Lewis, it is happening November 2nd, UFC 230.
Let me ask you this.
We were talking about this.
We had Bosh around 9 years ago.
November 3rd.
Did I say 2nd?
Sorry, I might have said November.
You said 2nd.
That's Friday.
Friday, the 2nd starter wins.
The 3rd is the actual fight for Madison Square Garden.
I am terrible with numbers.
Fights are always Saturday, unless, I think sometimes if they're in different countries' time zones.
Let's not get technical.
It's November 3rd, UFC 230.
We had Basri on the show the other day, and I was talking about his serious neck injury that he had had at one point.
I don't know how familiar you are with it, but for him it was a real struggle to start even moving five pounds.
And now he's back to basically full ability.
We talk a lot on this show about strength, and there's this idea, I think, this false idea of machismo, and it's often associated with fighters.
And I use Boss Rutan as an example because, for him, he was weak as a kitten with one arm after the neck injury.
But he was strong because he said, okay, I'm going to get past, I'm going to push past this, and eventually he got back to where he was, whereas a lot of people just don't push past that discomfort.
To Daniel Cormier, best fighter on the face of the planet right now, before you leave, How do you define strength?
What do you think matters most, particularly for a lot of young men listening?
I like the mental, you know?
Honestly, man.
And I think, and this might be like, oh, we don't want to hear this about fight promotion.
But I think strength to me, honestly, is defined by a guy like Derrick Lewis, you know?
When Derrick Lewis was a teen, he left Louisiana down to Texas.
And got in a ton of trouble, ended up in prison.
Now you know that when you go to prison, there are guys in there every night saying what they're gonna do when they get out, and how they're gonna be better when they get out, and they'll never go back, and I'm gonna make a life for my family, and they write these notes, and they do all these things as to how life is going to improve.
But then they end up back in prison.
Recidivism rate is through the roof.
Derrick Lewis never went back.
Derrick Lewis became a millionaire.
Derek Lewis is fighting for the heavyweight championship of the world.
That's why when people say, how do you knock that guy out with 10 seconds?
I'm like, 10 seconds?
That doesn't surprise me because this man fought from the pits of hell to build himself back up to this point.
To me, that's strength, right?
When you are dealt with unbelievable adversity, and in the face of that adversity, you don't crumble.
You try to build back.
When I lost my daughter and life tried to knock me down and put me out for the count, I tried to rebuild myself.
When a person goes through these terrible tragedies that are going on today, the families of these people that are dying in these mass shootings are dying.
When someone decides to drive their car into a crowd of people, these families that Scrape themselves off the ground and rebuild that strength.
Yeah.
When you're dealt unbelievable adversity and you come through it and become better for it.
That is what defines strength to me.
It's not about lifting something up.
It's not about, uh, when everything's going good, you're, you're a champion and everything.
It's about when stuff gets bad.
How do you change it?
That's why, that's what I feel strength is.
And that's why I respect the guy that I'm fighting on Saturday.
Well, I think that's a very gracious answer.
I think it's very accurate of the black piece.
But I would add one to it, because I'll give you a pat on the back.
I also think equally as important is when someone does have great power.
It doesn't mean there isn't adversity.
But when someone has made it through the adversity, how they wield it, what they do with it,
you've been a class act as a champion, and that means a lot as well.
That fight is happening November 2nd.
Uh, 3rd! I was just...
Don't say second, don't say second, don't say second.
And I said second, he's gonna kick my ass.
And I said Black Beast and it's gonna be a hate crime.
UFC 230, remember second.
Daniel Cormier, thank you so much, sir, be safe.
Thank you.
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That was a variation on an older version that I'd done of that.
That was a Greg, that was a Louganis drowning dance.
Hit my head in the back of the diving board, put AIDS all over the Olympic pool.
You okay?
Yeah, a little, I hit it there.
You know that story?
Greg Louganis.
You don't know that story?
Diver?
Famous diver?
He hit his head in the back board, blood all over the pool, turns out I think he had HIV.
Yeah, that's one way to transmit.
I think there was a made-for-TV film, and I think it was Mario Lopez who played him.
Couldn't even get Louis Diamond Phillips.
Poor guy.
That's the worst way to go.
That really is terrible.
Couldn't we get, like, John Leguizamo or something?
I don't know why I'm doing the Steven Seagal voice.
Owen Benjamin and I, before we left for U of M, were just watching Steven Seagal films.
And one thing, he never gets hit.
And I was doing research after, and I was like, how does this happen?
And he's like, there's an actual quote.
My audience would never believe such a monumental occasion.
I'm awesome!
He really believes his own hype.
So he wrote it into the scripts?
No punches?
By the way, thank you to Daniel Cormier.
I was this close to asking you, Daniel, who would win in a fight, you or Steven Seagal, just because I wanted to piss him off and see if we could get him to storm off the show.
He's so nice, though, Daniel Cormier.
He's super nice.
He's a super nice dude.
And I'm really sad it's going to be his last fight, and a really good guy.
And you know what?
I think his worldviews might surprise you.
Just a really good guy.
He's a hard worker, he's a family man, and he's a good guy.
What was I talking about?
Steven Seagal.
Yeah, yeah.
No, there was a film.
I don't know the name of the film.
I would love it if people just let me know.
Send in your tweets.
And also, by the way, your questions, lifeadvice at ladderwithcrowder.com.
We're doing a segment next week, and a Devil's Advocate next week with Stephan Molyneux.
He... John Leguizamo... I don't know the film with Steven Seagal and John Leguizamo, but apparently he was supposed to die.
They were supposed to shoot it at 6 a.m.
and they only shot it at 8 p.m.
that day because he just refused to die.
He was like, my... my... my viewers would never accept this.
It is highly unrealistic.
All right, hold on a second.
I gotta drink some water.
Say something, Quarterblack.
I don't know something.
What's up, bros?
You really need to get out of that rhythm.
Okay, so let me take off the clown mask now.
It's been, I'm not gonna lie to you, it's been a tough spell.
It's been a tough spell for a while for me, and I'm incredibly appreciative.
When we do these live shows, so U of M is an example, it was really, really hard.
Required getting a lot of people out there.
It's a 17-hour drive.
Most of us flew one way, drove the other way to try and kind of pass it off.
And, you know, some things could have gone better that we had issued.
We've talked about it.
If you remember Mug Club with the union members at U of M who didn't let us get in when we were supposed to get in so that we're aligning everything.
It takes a crew of 12 people.
It was very hard and very draining physically.
And listen, not cancer, nothing like that, but I'm not a guy who likes to necessarily get into...
Yeah, my health isn't—it's not in the best of sorts right now.
These are things that can be corrected, but serious enough to warrant—you know, I've taken really a couple—two sick days in the history of this company.
A lot of the time when people see we're not doing it, they don't realize that we're actually rebuilding something or we're actually pre-taping something, like a change of my mind.
We just can't do a show the day we do a change of my mind or doing U of M. That was days and days of prep and getting out, several days of travel.
There might be some more, and you know what?
Let me know who you would like to see as a fill-in host.
Not right now, but probably around Christmas break.
And one thing I will say, though, doing these live shows, which can be really exhausting, and they really can, the reaction, the interactions with the fans, the people, are really incredible.
The people who support the show, Mug Club members, I mean, it was crazy to me, it was at least 60, 70% of people at that theater, and by the way, thousands of people were Mug Club members.
Oh yeah, there was a lot.
So that's not even just non-MUG Club members, because the MUG Club members get there hours
in advance.
So that's always nice.
It really is a team of people.
We really do feel like it's familial and we're overwhelmed by the support.
But I also do notice an ongoing theme, and you've probably seen this in the Q&A, particularly
with the upcoming election.
Fear.
A theme of people being afraid.
And a lot of different people, they find different ways to get over them.
A lot of people find that this show helps them.
I had some people say, listen, man, I just, I am so tired of news and politics.
This was a veteran who talked about how he had been suicidal.
I actually have a Navy cross there.
We haven't figured the perfect place to put it yet, so it's just safe.
So thank you, sir, again for sending it.
But we're going to put it right next to the, it would be fitting the Ultimate Warriors action figure that Mike Ward gave us.
That next to a Navy cross.
That crystallizes this show.
Some people say this show helps them.
It's really important, though.
This isn't obviously the only one.
Therapy is probably better than this show, because everyone on the show needs therapy.
It's important that you understand the difference between being afraid—and I don't always get the chance to answer people this way—and being afraid of something and being fearful.
There are two different things.
And on this last segment of the week, you know, it often ends up, I think it ended up being branded Crowder Closes because people were uploading it anyway.
Like, I want those dollar-dollar bills.
So I try to be vulnerable.
I try to be earnest.
Because I don't think lies help.
I don't think being completely disingenuous helps.
I don't think false ego helps.
Because I know a lot of you out there might be experiencing some of the same pain and fears that I've gone through or that I'm going through or people even hear sometimes in the studio.
So if it helps you, It'd be wrong for me to keep it to myself.
And I think a lot of people often go, you know, don't be afraid.
Oh, listen, be brave.
But they don't really tell you how.
And if you have someone, let's say it's, you know, The Rock or someone like Daniel Cormier.
That's why I really appreciate the interviews with Daniel Cormier.
Because Daniel Cormier is a world-level ass kicker.
And on this show, not always, but on this show, he's been very vulnerable about what it is that scares him, about the fact that he's nervous before every fight.
Very specific.
And I tell you what, for me, that inspired me.
I don't know about you, but hearing Daniel Cormier say, I get nervous before every fight, I didn't feel so bad about, you know, throwing up or painting the porcelain before every single live show.
Corey Black knows this.
I don't enjoy speaking live.
I get very, very nervous.
But when you get up there, you look really good.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate the lies.
Check's in the mail.
It will clear.
You needn't say this.
It's going to clear anyway.
Just like a black belt from Steven Seagal.
Your check cleared.
So if it does help you the way Daniel Cormier, Brian Scharr, George St.
Pierre, Thomas O, we've had a lot of great people here who've actually talked specifically about things that either scare them or difficulties they've overcome, that's been something that's been inspiring to me.
And so, I'm just going to be honest with you, there are a lot of things that scare me, but I don't live my life.
Let me go through it.
And I'd like to hear you guys tell me what it is that most scares you.
Going out on a limb here, and I know it'll be used against me eventually, but I also know that there's someone else out there who probably feels like they're alone, might think that they're at the end of their rope, and maybe this will help.
So, it's one person that's worth it.
I'm afraid of being alone.
That's something I'm really afraid of.
This idea, you know, people talk about being alone in a crowded room.
We often hear it in sound lyrics.
That often happens.
I can be surrounded by a lot of people and not really know who a friend is or know who necessarily cares about me.
And especially when you have so many supporters, and I'm grateful for them, you're always afraid that that goes away.
And that there's this sort of dead still of quiet.
I've always been very afraid.
I'm afraid of being alone.
I'm afraid of burning out.
It's one of my worst fears.
I'm afraid of burning out like after a University of Michigan and again when you have kind of health struggles
nothing serious You just it's hard. It's sometimes it's hard
I can always get up and do the work that I need to do as far as okay show up hit that mark do
The sketch fine write the joke, but when you don't have anything to aim for
Sometimes it's really hard just to think up right now. Okay.
Where are we gonna do the next change?
What's the next super video?
Where are we going to go on location?
Because so much needs to be planned and it's just like, you know, a lion tamer.
It's the different legs of the stool that keeps the lion completely confused.
That's the only reason that this person, this circus clown is not getting eaten.
I get overwhelmed sometimes.
I'm afraid of burning out.
I am afraid of not being deserving of this platform.
Frankly, I'm afraid of that, something I've always been afraid of.
I see the faces, I see people who come up when they tell me their personal stories and
how much this program means to them.
I really am grateful, but I think I often feel undeserving.
I work really hard.
I try to be honest with people.
I probably work harder than anyone.
I know that's kind of a reputation in the industry if you ask other people.
I'm a Clydesdale.
Not a show horse, clearly.
Not an Arabian prancer, dancer, whatever it is.
All you equestrians, I don't care.
Go do your dressage.
But I'm afraid, I often feel undeserving of the platform.
I'm afraid of mistakes that I've made which have harmed others and I don't necessarily know what they are.
Sometimes when you're in a leadership position, this keeps me up at night.
I'm afraid that I've made mistakes that have caused ripple effects and they were mistakes that I could have avoided, especially when you have employees and you're in your mid-twenties.
You make mistakes.
Mistakes are okay, but I have trouble sleeping sometimes when I think about, oh, I could have done this better.
I could have done that better.
That's something that bothers me a lot.
I'm afraid of the Brazilian wandering spider.
That goes without saying.
I'm afraid of not knowing when I've done the right thing.
That's something that's hard.
Afraid of the mistakes and sometimes not knowing if you've made a mistake or done the right thing because sometimes you make a decision that you have to make for someone else in the team or someone else in your life that negatively affects one other person.
Sometimes it's just like we don't have that much room in the lifeboats.
Sometimes you have to make hard decisions, and sometimes you think you have to make hard decisions, and it's just wrong.
I'm afraid of that.
I'm afraid of... I'm afraid, frankly, I used to have a bad temper.
I'm afraid of it coming back.
I'm afraid of Mr. Hyde rearing his ugly bisexual head.
That was a short phase.
No, I'm afraid.
Afraid of getting angry.
Afraid of being too emotional.
Afraid of being obsessive.
Because of that, I'm afraid of alienating friends, family, people who I care about most.
That's something I think about a lot.
Sometimes a lot of pressure.
Sometimes a lot of compression.
Comes hyper-volatility emotionally.
And I'm afraid of pushing people away.
Especially when you have people who you love who either work with you or in close proximity.
I'm afraid of... And this is why you might have seen that there was a pause at U of M. I'm afraid of having children.
I'm really afraid of having children.
I said I don't like kids.
That's not true.
I like kids.
That's a smokescreen.
I kind of don't like sticky kids.
But I'm afraid of having children.
Definitely afraid, because of thrusting them into a life that they didn't choose.
I've had a lot of close calls.
I've had even just not close calls.
I've had very unpleasant encounters.
We've had people who just work for this show, who've been spat on.
We've had people get violent with them.
Even at U of M, we had people trying to start a bar fight for people who weren't even on stage, but they knew worked with the crew.
I'm really afraid of having children and bringing them into that.
It's always been something that bothers me, and because of that, something else.
I'm afraid of the fact that my fear of having children could cause irreparable damage with a wife who I know deserves them.
I'm not saying I'm never going to have kids, by the way.
I'm just saying it's a fear that I struggle with.
I know a lot of people struggle with these fears.
We talked about the church groups often when people aren't honest.
I need to be forgiven for being a workaholic.
I spend too much on Facebook.
You know what?
No.
I'm telling you exactly what I'm afraid of.
I'm telling you what my weaknesses are because I know, and some of these are actually things that I feel as though I should have expressed a long time ago because I constantly encounter these at live performances where people say, you know what?
I really struggle with this and you help me with it.
I'm going, you know what?
I should just tell people.
I should just tell people that I struggle with that.
I should just tell people that I struggle with burnout and fear of that.
Or I should just tell people that I'm afraid of having children.
Because it might help them to not feel so alone.
We hear that so much from the left.
Oh, don't be alone!
Only they try to tell you you shouldn't feel alone in your depravity.
I'm telling you, you shouldn't feel alone in being afraid of things, but hopefully there's a solution that we'll get to after this.
I'm afraid of all of this going away and 15 people being out of a job.
That's one thing that really scares me.
If I'm undeserving and it all goes away, or you say the wrong thing, that can happen to anyone these days.
We've been really blessed.
There's 15 other people who rely on Mug Club and your support, not just myself.
That's something that's really scary.
Let me end on this.
I'm afraid of not being able to discern the things that I can control and the things that I can't and wasting energy trying to fix things or trying to contain things that I can't control.
I'm really afraid of not having discernment or not having perfect discernment.
I think that's what a lot of these fears stem from and even more I think I'm afraid of not fixing the issues that I can control.
And that would be even harder to live with.
So it's vicious.
It's just this never ending cycle of what can I control?
What can I not?
And if you can control it, you better do something about it because people are relying on you to fix this.
And if it's out of your control, you're spinning your wheels and the people who are relying on you, they're just going to see you burn out and then you can't help them.
It's, it's a really difficult thing to break.
It's a really difficult cycle to break.
Uh, I'm afraid of all of these things.
And Snake Island.
But don't live in fear.
And neither should you.
And I hear this a lot, particularly with this election.
You shouldn't live in fear.
It's okay to be afraid of things.
Everyone is afraid.
Bravery is doing the right thing in the face of being afraid.
But living in perpetual fear is different.
Just like people tell lies.
But lying to yourself consistently is corrosive to your soul in a way that is very different from telling somebody they don't look fat in a dress.
Living in a state of fear is different from being afraid.
You do not have to live in fear, regardless of the election, because you're not alone.
And not only are you not alone because of whether you believe in Him or not, God says that you're not alone.
But let's get out of, you know, what people may see as corny, sort of metaphysical bumper stickers.
If you're watching this live right now, okay, look at how many people are watching live with you.
If you're watching the show afterward, just look at how many subscribers, mug clubbers, there are next to you.
It takes all of us in knowing that there are millions upon millions of people right now in arms with you.
And you know why those people have hit the subscribe button?
You know why those people have bought this?
It's awesome.
It's hand etched, it's girthy, it's hand painted.
This is just a symbol.
You know why millions of people have supported this program?
It's not because it's funny.
Every now and then we get a few right.
It's not because people feel as though this is the only place they can go for political information or insight.
Millions of people have signed up because they have been through something similar to what you are going through or to what you have been through.
Look at that subscriber count.
That's the ceiling right now on YouTube.
I just lost my pen.
The ceiling for conservatives on YouTube is our channel.
Right?
And that's also a burden that scares us because we're going, man, we're changing the blueprint every single week and we're trying to do right by you.
Elections fluctuate.
And we get so many emails, especially in the life advice, but what do I do with the election?
I feel that our country's done.
I hear that every single election.
Elections change.
Parties change.
And it goes back and forth.
But win, lose, or draw, whether it's this go-around or the next go-around, you're not alone.
You don't need to live in fear.
Do you feel better at all?
Does that help you feel better?
I know sometimes these are supposed to be feel-good segments, but it doesn't really matter, okay?
Because whether you feel better or not, that's the truth.
So, take it.
If you feel better, good.
Now it's your obligation to help the next guy.
Go make sure today, right now, if you're listening, if you're watching this show, immediately, pause this.
There's only going to be a few seconds of music afterward anyway.
You don't even need to hear it.
You've probably heard the song a million times with Pogo.
Pause it right after this phrase and immediately go ensure that somebody else out there doesn't feel alone and doesn't need to live in perpetual fear.
If all of us do that, that's what changes this country, and that's what creates a team, and that's what gives people not only self-belief, but belief in their values and belief in real change.
Make sure today, right now, this is the last phrase, I'm getting near the end of this now, name that movie line, That you go out and ensure someone else doesn't feel alone and doesn't have to live in fear because that's why we do this.