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#346 WAR FOR TOMMY ROBINSON! Derek Smalls, Dean Cain and Sargon of Akkad! | Louder With Crowder

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	He arrived in America.
	He conquered Austin.
	He was promptly banned from Austin.
	And YouTube.
	They tried to stop him.
	But now he's back.
	Yeah, at this point they forced my hand, BB.
	You look like you had a few too many bites in your last update.
	I'm not leaving, Beep Beep.
	Are you lesbian, Beep Beep?
	Beep Beep.
	F*** you, Beep Beep.
	Monday, June 11th.
	Just when you thought it was safe to go back to the LGBTQAAIP number 2 festival.
	I couldn't pick you guys from a rooftop full of queers, Beep Beep.
	I'm going into sleep mode.
	Beep Beep Beep Boop Boop Boop.
	Louder with Crowder Studios.
	protected exclusively by Walther.
	It's June, which marks Loud Or With Crowder's third annual Cultural Appropriation Month,
	where we take you across the globe, learning and appreciating all the great cultures this world has to offer.
	This week, allow us to be your sherpa to the talented, tough, and fantastic country of North Korea!
	I've got you right where I want you.
	I can't hold that for the entire episode.
	Cultural Appropriation Month continues.
	Last week, I can't remember the costume winner, but we're going to have at the end of the month all the costume contest winners.
	Send in your costumes.
	Tweet me at S. Crowder.
	And of course, producing me in video studio, as always, you can tweet him at NotGayJared with your photoshops, your comments, or your costumes for Cultural Appropriation Month.
	Winner gets, obviously, a free t-shirt, ranger panties, and a lock of NotGayJared's hair.
	And I inadvertently fulfilled all my legal obligations, drawing conclusions.
	Are we good?
	Yeah, you can call me not gay daddy.
	Okay.
	For some reason that sounds like a very gay daddy.
	We have great guests.
	We have Sargon of Akkad, we have Dean Cain, and we have Derek Smalls of Spinal Tap on the show.
	The basis for Spinal Tap, one of my greatest accomplishments actually ever.
	Really, there have been only a few people who have really, really, really, really wanted to have on the show.
	You know, Alice Cooper is amongst them.
	Yeah.
	And Derek Smalls, bassist of Spinal Tap, is also.
	Hey, question of the day before we move on is, what sucks more today?
	What do you think, genuinely?
	The state of free speech across our country, or even across the world, Europe, and we're going to talk about the Tommy Robinson situation, particularly as it relates to social media.
	I'm just so happy.
	I brought a beer because it's got bubbles and all, and that's celebratory.
	I could go home for a while.
	Is that a 40?
	Not quite.
	which means he knows a lot about wine.
	At G. Morgan Jr., how are you?
	Oh, geez.
	I'm just so happy.
	I just want to celebrate.
	I brought a beer because it's got bubbles and all.
	And that's celebratory.
	I could go home for a while.
	Is that a 40?
	Not quite.
	I could have gone a 40.
	It's a 24.
	They're illegal in Missouri because too many people were getting a pans labyrinth in the face on work sites.
	And then once they broke the bottle, they were stabbing people with it.
	That's not happening.
	That ain't happening!
	I'm so loyal!
	I'm so loyal to Coke 45!
	And of course, Fen, computer, are you ready with overlays?
	I should strike Washington, D.C.
	Apparently your rocket works better than your microphone.
	It's not working perfectly, but maybe I'll just make it to Hawaii.
	Or crash into the ocean.
	But you can track my flight path on Twitter.
	Almost!
	North Korea is making everyone sneaky.
	Hey, so we actually have an official statement from Kim Jong-un later.
	He's been relatively quiet and it's a little conflicted, but we have news of the day to get to first.
	So, Jim Acosta is an insufferable prick.
	Let's leave with that.
	Here he is caught in a hot microphone justifying shouting questions at the whole Trump-Kim summit.
	Listen to the smugness.
	Yeah, that's what I have a shot to ask him.
	All day long, man.
	All day long.
	I certainly have a shot to ask him, but that's all day long.
	That's the way it goes, man.
	All day long.
	All day, every day.
	All day, baby.
	All day.
	All day.
	All day long.
	What an entitled ass.
	Which is ironic, though, actually, because All Night Long is actually now Donald and Kim's song.
	All night long.
	All day.
	All day.
	All night long.
	All day.
	All day.
	Donald, will you be my daddy?
	What?
	You heard me.
	Fiesta.
	Lorraine.com.
	I'm looking forward to it a lot. I just...
	Are you just forgetting to turn on your microphone?
	So you're a retarded missile?
	Yeah, but I don't want to make too many noises.
	She's a North Korean missile.
	Come on, that's it.
	I wouldn't launch you from a carrier if my life depended on it.
	I'm just gonna fail on the ramp.
	I think you just chase around the children with a piece of cheese and you pretty much get whoever you want.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	I think they chase you around for the cheese.
	Huh?
	No!
	I didn't think negative thoughts!
	I think you just chase them around with a piece of cheese and you pretty much get whoever you want.
	Yeah, pretty much. I think they chase you around for the cheese.
	Until their leader speaks directly into their mind like Charles Xavier.
	Huh? No! I didn't think negative thoughts.
	He's so happy!
	Other news of the day, the UN has officially blamed and condemned Israel for the recent violence in Gaza.
	This comes to us from Washington Post.
	Of course.
	They approved a Palestinian-backed resolution on Wednesday, blaming Israel for violence in Gaza and deploring its, quote, excessive use of force, with no mention of the fact that Hamas, who had the destruction of all Jews, was in their charter until very recently.
	Yeah.
	You would also demand that the 36 accusers be charged with, quote, stealing all of Cosby's pills.
	So they're in... yeah.
	I'm increasingly convinced that if Hitler were around today, the left would ensure him a victory.
	The U.N.
	and the left.
	I mean, come on.
	And why not?
	They always side with the wrong people.
	Winston Churchill's a dick!
	Always!
	I feel like if they went back and looked at the Holocaust, they'd be like, yeah, you guys kind of had it coming.
	Yeah, Hitler was fine in that.
	Well, you know what?
	You don't think that Hamas would carry out the Holocaust if they could tomorrow?
	Absolutely.
	They're just Holocaust deniers who beat their wives.
	Yeah.
	The fun fact is that the Palestinian leader just said that like a few weeks ago, that it was due to the Jews' social behavior that the Holocaust happened.
	That's still a position that they hold.
	Due to their social behavior of dying from inhaled toxic fumes.
	Can you believe that?
	Those Jews... How dare they?
	Gosh, we're so beyond the brink of... Even if you think that Israel is an occupied... Put it this way.
	In any other situation, if you thought someone was occupying a land, but the land consisted of people who wanted to wipe out an entire race of people, you'd be like, oh thank God they're occupied.
	Thank God they're no longer running the show!
	Stop them from doing that.
	Speaking of running the show, Netflix film crew, they're now banned from staring, flirting, or hugging under the new rule.
	I'm so happy.
	I'm just so happy.
	It's a great day.
	I'm just happy.
	Till Whoopi Goldberg strolls on set there.
	I have the actual coin.
	That sounded really like Dennis Rodman.
	I'm so loyal!
	I'm good to go home!
	Sell Rodman coin.
	I think he had weed coin or something.
	So Netflix, they've banned film crews from looking at anyone for over five seconds.
	Other rules include not asking work pals' phone numbers, and they're urging staff feeling pestered to yell, quote, stop, don't do that again.
	So this is a response to Me Too, and it's not necessarily a bad response, but it's led to some changes.
	Sweeping changes for Netflix prompted them to actually halt production on Bill O'Reilly's highly anticipated directorial debut, the biographical Roger Ailes picture, The Chronicles of Crotch Cam.
	Oh boy.
	Also the production of the highly anticipated sequel to Spacey Jam.
	That was one.
	Fun fact about that one, Spacey was not supposed to be a cameo, but in his audition he blew everyone.
	He blew everyone out of the water.
	Flew everyone away.
	Here's your chance.
	Do your dance at the Space Jam.
	Stop.
	I didn't write it.
	Also no longer available is the notorious Bill Nye Saves the World episode, dry-tumping the craft services table.
	That one almost seemed like it was... It almost seemed as though he was toxifying the world.
	Bill Nye.
	But he taught you how to make your own ketchup afterwards.
	I am not happy.
	He taught you that honey was bee barf.
	You're like, really?
	I didn't know that.
	Well, I guess it's okay that you humped the Quiznos catering.
	Made a lot of excuses.
	Hey, Elon Musk's Boring Company reportedly just won a bid to build a high-speed underground rail in Chicago.
	Elon Musk, you love the Elon Musk, there's Fenn computer.
	So this is actually a quote.
	We're really excited to work with the mayor and the city to bring this new high-speed public transportation system to Chicago, the boring company said.
	Hopefully it's faster than a speeding bullet, said all of Chicago.
	That's awesome.
	I think those trains should go everywhere.
	If they went everywhere, Detroit would be calling the Chicago PD for all their problems.
	Is it faster than a speeding bullet?
	No, but it's more powerful than a gun confiscation.
	I take it.
	I take it.
	That's good.
	I'll go.
	I just so happen.
	15 minutes.
	Still 15 minutes.
	Respond time.
	Detroit.
	Still a 15 minute response.
	Is it still?
	58.
	58?
	Response time in Detroit?
	Yeah, average is 11.
	I think Chicago is actually good on them.
	It's like 6.
	I think they just don't believe it.
	They're like, yeah, there's no one left to kill in this city.
	Hey, we got crazy online too!
	I was a little hyper.
	A little hyper.
	The U.S. House just approved a ban on Wednesday, by the way, on the importation—it almost
	sounded like it was going to say importase—the importation and trafficking of—this is an
	actual— Sven Computer, this is an actual story, right?
	This is an actual story.
	Yeah, okay.
	I want to make sure, because people say, you're just making these up for jokes.
	Like the Anne Frank... No, it was a real story.
	Trafficking of anatomically correct child sex dolls and robots that quote, normalize sex between adult and minors.
	The proposal was approved in the House, and now it moves on to the Senate.
	But, if you make child sex robots illegal, people will be forced to build their own sex dolls in back alleys, argued NAMBLA.
	Aw, that's unfortunate.
	Then only the child sex robots will have them!
	The first models, by the way, were nicknamed R2D2 Year Old and C3 This Many!
	You had a rough go.
	Can you imagine being the senator who votes no on this?
	I know.
	There will be one.
	I'm convinced though in a decade from now they'd just be considered forward thinking.
	Ahead of their time.
	Salons are already on board.
	It's gangbusters over there.
	Senator Sanders, you're running for president but it says here that you voted no on banning anatomically correct child sex robots.
	I have evolved on the issue.
	In my defense!
	I'm just so happy.
	Nonetheless!
	All right.
	I'm just very happy.
	Okay, so we do have to get to a story here.
	We had this guy's manager on not long ago.
	And if you've been following the news, this is, not to get serious, but it is pretty serious.
	So let's just set this up.
	Okay, Marley was at the beginning of this.
	The UK no longer has free speech.
	We'll talk with Sargon of Achaia.
	It doesn't exist.
	We've heard us say it time and time again.
	Completely gone.
	There's no, I don't even think anyone is trying to argue it anymore.
	They're trying to argue to what degree they limit speech.
	It's like, okay, are we going full authoritarian or kind of authoritarian?
	So before we get to Tommy Robinson, what were you going to say?
	I was going full.
	Oh, going full.
	I'm just answering the question.
	You're just so happy.
	I've been so loyal.
	I couldn't go home.
	I've been so loyal to this government for so long.
	And to hell if I'd go to the UK though, those fools are crazy.
	They're crazy.
	I can't speak even though I can't speak.
	Do you know how hard it is to talk with one of these liberals?
	I can imagine.
	That's why you gotta have a grill, so you don't chip things.
	So people like Lauren Southern, that's not how they work, and Brittany Pettibone, they've been banned from entering the country.
	Count Dankula, of course, you remember, fined for making the Pug do a Nazi salute, which sounds worse than it actually is when you see the video.
	Meanwhile, though, flying the ISIS flag in London, you're aces.
	Yeah, apparently that's not a problem.
	And obviously, Tommy Robinson is still in prison.
	We talked about this.
	We had Tommy Robinson's manager on.
	Was it two weeks ago now?
	I think it was two weeks ago.
	Two weeks ago.
	And the concern is now, when he talked about this, he's been moved to a new prison that's Allegedly.
	Significantly more dangerous with a higher Muslim population.
	Now, there's been some confusion over the exact details, so I don't want to spread any misinformation.
	Here's the most recent update from his manager, Kalen Robertson, himself.
	There was some confusion circulating on Twitter.
	Some people try to say it was 70% Muslim.
	Yeah, some huge number.
	Yeah, and it turns out that that is not correct at all.
	And they may have just flipped it and gotten a mistake, but then there were a lot of other sites that ran with it who didn't fact check.
	And I want to make this clear before we get to Tom Robinson.
	This is why I absolutely despise the conspiratorial right.
	It's true.
	Fake news exists, not just exclusively on the left.
	And it makes it much harder for us to do our job.
	Or for you to go out there and be properly armed with information when people are more interested in clicks than they are in telling the truth.
	Inflating the number to an increased number of Muslims that is not the accurate number, which had to be... I believe it was... I believe they took it back, if I'm not mistaken.
	I believe they retracted it.
	Yeah, I think they put it down, what, at like 14?
	They moved him to a prison with a higher Muslim population where it's more dangerous.
	That's enough!
	When we get to what's happened on YouTube and social media tenders, it's enough.
	The truth is enough.
	The truth is always enough!
	And that's the double-edged sword of the new age of digital media, is that it comes with an extra set of responsibilities.
	Because once upon a time, I feel like even riots were a little more genuine, because people were all on board with this more singular narrative of news.
	Now anybody can, from any blog, or from anywhere in the world, can throw their own spin on things and be taken as legitimate.
	So you've got to be vigilant no matter which site you're on, no matter where you're at.
	Here's the thing, you want to know what's crazy?
	We just had Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump singing all night long, okay?
	This is not the epitome of journalism.
	And we do the work.
	And we've come out and issued retractions.
	We've gotten some things wrong when new news has come in.
	These people who are out there trying to convince you that they are real news.
	By the way, don't watch us as your only news source.
	We're a late-night show, okay?
	But we are meticulous in trying to be correct.
	So it's not by accident that a news organization or a right-wing blog that employs three, four, five times as many people as on this show gets it wrong.
	That's by design.
	Yeah, it's Fenn Computer.
	Yeah, I mean, it really just hurts your cause, BB, because now the left-wing media and leftists, they can just point at this and go like, look, they're lying.
	Right.
	They're just trying to inflate this, and that makes people like us look bad, too, because we're going to be associated with those people as well.
	Like they're going to do with the alt-right.
	Exactly.
	They're going to associate everyone with the alt-right.
	It's like, yeah, Ben Shapiro was a notorious Jewish... Shut up!
	It's just really dumb.
	Yeah, they're handing out tiki torches at the RNC convention.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that's what they're trying to do now.
	And that being said, here's something we do know, OK?
	And it's just as disconcerting.
	A video that Tommy Robinson made, it was titled, I Won't Be Around For Much Longer, was taken down from YouTube because it violated community guidelines.
	So the fact that this coincides is bone chillingly scary.
	The good news is a lot of people did their due diligence and downloaded the clip before it was taken down.
	So we have a montage of some of it here.
	They want to remove me, to silence me, to discredit me.
	They have tried to stop me in every possible way.
	Now they want to take away the final thing I have, my voice.
	I don't doubt one day they will wipe me off social media completely, forever.
	The media will be able to tell you whatever they want about me and I'll have no way of responding.
	If they can do it to me, they can do it to you.
	What did they do?
	They removed it immediately!
	Exactly.
	It almost seems like he was a prophet.
	He is foreshadowing.
	Acts of violence and censorship committed against him, and he's the one in violation!
	That video predicting that he would be found in violations for non-violations was removed as a violation!
	Get your head around that!
	These people... It's scary because they're at the point where they don't care that you're watching.
	Yeah.
	They're not trying to hide anymore, and that's what's scary.
	Well, people aren't really stepping up and fighting stuff like this, I think.
	Or they're trying to, but they don't really have much of a mechanism.
	What do you do?
	If Twitter bans you... You get a half-Asian lawyer named Bill Richmond.
	Yeah, exactly!
	You hear his name in the hallways of Google, and they f*** themselves, and you know what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, but how many people can do that?
	Right?
	And so it comes down to people like you having the ability to go do that for everybody else.
	A lot of people can.
	You just have to be the pig who builds his house out of straw.
	Builds his house out of brick, as opposed to the brothers who did, was it straw and wood?
	Wood sticks?
	Straw and wood sticks?
	Which you know must have pissed off that one pig.
	Did I crash with you?
	You built your house!
	It was out of straw!
	You didn't see this coming?
	The bricks were right next to it!
	Don't you care about the environment?
	It's not that expensive!
	It's right down the block.
	You know, some of these organizations that went out with this myth of the 70% Muslim population,
	they have far more money than we do.
	And what do they typically do?
	They often just tend to bitch of what's happening on YouTube.
	Listen, we bitch and we try and make it funny.
	That's why we created Mug Club.
	It's what allows us to be sustainable.
	And we try and do sketches to draw awareness to it.
	But we have Bill Richmond on retainer.
	We have also his firm on retainer.
	And we are a thorn in the side of social media.
	Believe you me, we've planned for this.
	And you will know about it if we end up having to fight to a higher degree than we are right now.
	So here's the thing.
	The UK courts and social media, they're working together.
	And not just to silence Tommy and to put him in prison, but to silence any reports of their actions against him.
	That's what's crazy right now.
	And this is how the left operates.
	Yeah, I am making the gross generalization, because this is exclusive to the left.
	They portray the aggressors as the victims.
	And there's no one who can call them out.
	So they paint Tommy as the villain and his reporting as a crime against the poor Muslim rape gangs.
	The poor migrant rapist, all he did was rape a kid.
	They technically are a minority, so they do have the moral upper hand.
	That is true.
	Tommy Robinson might have terminated the jury by reporting about how this man raped a kid.
	Don't you under- No, we don't understand.
	No, we don't.
	Can't we find common ground?
	Probably not!
	You wrote common ground with that.
	By the way, here's something.
	Same things happened to us before.
	So a good example is very recently.
	A lot of people don't know this.
	And actually, Sven Computer, you did some research with Reg the Beast here.
	We found some things out just today, right before the show, right before doing this.
	We did a civil, non-violation Change My Mind video last week in Austin, right?
	Waiter Tranny, sit down with us.
	There you go, there's a violation for you.
	Just find a reason.
	So Antifa and the like, they actively and repeatedly called to firebomb us.
	To firebomb us, to firebomb our table.
	You can see these pictures, okay?
	So I actually posted this to Instagram.
	Saying like, hey guys, keep an eye out.
	And it was removed as a violation!
	We're saying this person wants to firebomb us, so make sure we don't get firebombed.
	This is a violation.
	Here's the crazy thing.
	You remember Charles Hermes, a professor at UT Arlington, who's still there, who said I was a Nazi, who posted fake memes of me saying gas to Jews?
	I never took it back.
	This person, who wanted us to be firebombed in Austin, is a co-chair of the Democratic Socialists, works at UT Austin, and ran Bernie's Austin campaign.
	No way.
	These aren't crazy fringe extremists.
	It's like being arrested for rape for calling to report rape.
	Right, exactly.
	But you said the rape word.
	We have to take you in.
	You said the R word.
	It's not our fault.
	But I didn't do the R word.
	He's still doing it now.
	Sir, calm down.
	We are sending the police to you.
	Hyper online too.
	We posted it to protect our team and the fans.
	We had fans showing up.
	It changed my mind.
	People walking by going, oh you're here.
	And there's no way to stop the spread of information.
	Illinois was the only time we all agreed we're not going to do that again because it was just, it was too massive of a crowd and we promoted it and we did a live show.
	Change My Mind is meant to be something where you set up and random passers-by, they convocate.
	Um, with you, because it's meant to mimic more so what occurs in real life, but right away, we were in Austin, firebombed them, so we're trying to protect our fans and our team, and we were in violation of what guidelines?
	This is insane.
	Here's what, I don't know about you, but what's so crazy to me is in order to create a safe space for professional online victims, they're literally creating unsafe spaces in the physical world from acts of serious violence and brutality coming from the left.
	I think it just got gout from the irony.
	So rich.
	The irony is so rich, I forgot to remove my left toe.
	These are the people that are teaching in colleges, right?
	They're the professors and the administrators that are in colleges teaching your kids that you're paying money to go to.
	Come on!
	All you need to create a safe space is out of brown shirts on the street.
	That's all you need.
	Listen, I think you don't understand.
	Okay, we all want a safe space.
	Alright, hold on, let me try and follow you.
	We all want a safe space online, right?
	We don't want people to be offended online.
	Right.
	Right.
	So, on Instagram, Twitter, like, people's feelings get really hurt.
	We don't want to say it.
	Okay.
	So, the only way that we can create a safe space online where people don't get hurt, yeah, is by hurting people in real life.
	That's true.
	Follow me, follow me.
	Online safe space.
	Real life firebomb.
	You understand?
	Violence is a spear.
	By the way, penis is a figment of your imagination.
	Okay, carry on.
	If you want an A in my course, check yes to agree with all of these.
	Otherwise, we're sending you back to community college.
	I hate all the things.
	And this is why we sent Sven Computer in to act.
	This is why we've become disruptive assholes sometimes.
	Look, we do change my mind.
	We do it because it's meant to be civil, it's meant to have a dialogue.
	But every now and then we send in Sven, it wasn't very productive.
	The whole point was to point out, the only point was to showcase the absurdity of the left.
	Yes, to publicly embarrass these people.
	Why?
	Because even when we're as civil as humanly possible, Even when we play by every single one of the contradictory, sometimes illegal, borderline illegal, like party consent state laws as far as filming, arbitrary rules, they get changed to screw us anyway.
	So why does it seem like we're becoming increasingly hostile?
	Why does it feel like on sometimes this show we go too far?
	Why are we sending Sven back in for a super video you're going to see on money that's Pee yourself laughing?
	Why is it that we're doing this where it's sometimes unnecessary and there's no point other than to irritate the left?
	Because f*** you!
	That's why.
	And here's the other thing.
	We have an official statement though from the Trump... He's been quiet.
	We have to do this before we... Actually, we have to get going.
	I've run over time.
	He's been pretty quiet.
	Seems a little conflicted.
	Kim Jong-un has released an official statement regarding the meeting with Trump and how he feels about it.
	And after that, Sargant of Akkad.
	I met the president last night.
	Donald Trump gave me a fright.
	He said I'm kind of a dick, he's right.
	I'm tired of faking, I'm tired of rights.
	It's Rory in NK Just cause I star
	Are my citizens And I think it's gonna be a wrong, wrong time
	Till Donald Trump begins to really find I'm not the tyrant that he thinks I am
	Oh no, no, no I'm just a Rocket Man
	Rocket Man Bullshitting the world up here alone
	Rocket Man Bullshitting the world up here alone
	Rocket Man Rocketman, bullshit ain't no world up here or off.
	Rocketman, I love you Donald.
	I love you so much Donald.
	Rockin' bad, though shit ain't no world up here or wrong.
	It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
	Come cheer up my lads, come cheer up my lads.
	It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
	That's like a Big Brother program.
	If they spanked you.
	We haven't had him on in a while.
	We were supposed to have him on last week.
	It's been a while.
	And he's been stateside.
	And now he's no longer stateside.
	So I'm kind of sorry that we missed him.
	But you can follow him on YouTube because I don't think you can follow him much anywhere else anymore.
	Sargon of Akkad.
	Mr. Akkad, how are you, sir?
	I'm very well.
	You can actually follow me on Facebook still.
	Facebook haven't banned me yet.
	Well, you know what?
	I noticed that Instagram is way worse than Facebook, and it's obviously owned by Facebook.
	We had someone from, not from Antifa, but actually we just talked about it, someone who works at UT.
	We just talked about this earlier on the show.
	Demand that people firebomb us while we were doing a Change My Mind, you know, highly controversial segment, and tweeted it all out.
	And then I posted a picture saying, hey, watch out for this person because they want to firebomb us, and I apparently violated policies by posting their exact tweet.
	Right.
	So, very difficult to follow.
	Yeah.
	But you're still on Facebook, so that's good.
	Hey, you were in the States for a while.
	What was that like for you?
	Was it your first long visit stateside?
	No, no, I've been to the States a few times before.
	It was really good.
	I went to the University of Portland, Portland State University, where I was invited to talk with Professor Peter Boghossian, who's a philosophy professor there, and he's been harassed endlessly by the SJWs, and we were talking about bias response teams at the university, which are basically I mean, I'm not being hyperbolic when I say they're kind of like a progressive version of the police of vice and virtue Okay, if you if you're doing something that falls outside of progressive orthodoxy You can be reported to them and it doesn't have to be a crime You know as in I mean, obviously they've got no legal power it's just if you're doing something that can be considered offensive and
	And this, I mean, this could, this could be down to obviously using a language that is deemed
	inappropriate by the university, not swear words. No, like biologically proper pronouns can be
	considered. Yes. Yes. It's amazing how there are science deniers on the left and the right.
	And everyone wants to believe it's just the opposite team that has the science deniers.
	But, um, but yeah, and so we, we were obviously interrupted by someone from Antifa pulling the
	But luckily, we managed to pack the hall out.
	I mean, I think the hall had about 800 seats, and about 700 of them were filled.
	Nice!
	So... Oh yeah, it was... And then they had to leave because... Did the fire thing have the ink so you could spot the SJW?
	I would imagine the SJWs at that school are just covered in ink if they do.
	Like someone who tried to rip off some, you know, Neiman Marcus in the 90s.
	Remember those?
	They used to have ink.
	They don't use it anymore.
	So I'm still stuck on packing the halls.
	We didn't have that, but the fire alarm issue was settled really quickly, and so we went back in, and in the heart of the SJW menace, we got to take a nice big dump all over their bias response teams.
	And they did nothing about it.
	Very nice.
	These are terms in philosophy I'd imagine you'd use with a professor.
	Take a nice big dump.
	Let me ask you this.
	Did you notice a very different sensibility with Americans than in the UK now, being here now in 2018?
	Because I will say it's changed a lot since I've been in the States.
	And when I first came from Canada, it was culture shock.
	I can only imagine now in the sense that there's a real divide of people who support things like the First Amendment and absolute truth and the people who pull the fire alarms.
	Well yeah, there's a massive ideological divide between those two people, and it's not getting any smaller.
	And it's because one side positively refuses dialogue.
	I mean, I think one of the reasons that your Change My Mind series has been so popular is because people want to see the conversations happening that, frankly, the left have been shutting down for the last decade at least.
	And it's got to the point now where the problems are so bad and they're so obviously in people's
	faces that you can't just pretend that the person who's bringing up an issue is a bigot.
	Because there are so many people with real issues that you can't just assume that.
	I mean, what was it?
	Dan Harmon said that a third of your country are Nazis.
	It's like, Dan, are you listening to yourself?
	Yeah.
	Do you really think that a third of America has been taken over by Nazis?
	Or is it your perception has gone so far radically to the left that you're basically a communist at this point?
	A third?
	What percentage of Germans were Nazis?
	I think that's a good question.
	I think a third is more.
	I mean, the Nazi party won with something like 37% of the votes.
	Right.
	But that doesn't obviously make 37% of the Germans Nazis, it's just the party that voted.
	So more Americans are Nazis than Nazis were Nazis.
	Where's the Nazi sleeping giant?
	Waiting.
	Maybe if he met on campus, a third of people on campus, like this lady who worked at UT.
	She wanted to firebomb us for the Change My Mind.
	It was the, there are two genders, change my mind.
	By the way, here's the crazy thing.
	The lady who sat down was a man, was a transgender man to woman.
	That was the one conversation that was civil.
	It was the feminist who claimed to be intersex, which I read up afterward, I think is BS.
	Who, uh, screamed and screeched.
	It was the UT Asian Registrar's Office who wanted to firebomb us.
	The transgender person, uh, him, herself, ze self, wasn't that upset?
	No.
	Pretty, pretty reasonable.
	So I- It's weird, isn't it?
	It is!
	It's really weird, but have you noticed there's a distinct, um, supply and demand problem when it comes to Nazis?
	There's a massive demand for Nazis right now.
	They want Nazis to be everywhere, but the market just isn't filling this, so I'm basically thinking if I opened a Nazi university, I could fill that niche in the market.
	Yes, you could!
	If for nothing else, the Hugo Boss uniforms.
	You could start a storefront.
	Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not really much of a Nazi myself, but I'm sure I could probably dig up one or two.
	We could learn, you know.
	I mean, for crying out loud, we could make a lot of money off Etsy.
	You know, just sew some patches on there, sell some soap, make it a package.
	So, what was the most bizarre thing you encountered?
	We saw some of the Antifa videos, but at a certain point it becomes white noise.
	I hate to say it, because they're committing acts of violence and pulling so many fire alarms.
	What would you say was your weirdest encounter in the States?
	Um, actually, you've seen the show Portlandia, haven't you?
	Yes.
	I went to the bookstore that the show's based around and it was really, I mean, it was like Tumblr had come to life.
	Everything in it was, everything in it was like the most cliched SJW feminist nonsense.
	Like, I mean, obviously had Black Lives Matter and all this, you know, pasted across the walls.
	And I went in there and I got some buttons.
	My favorite one, the button unironically said, riots, not diets.
	What?
	What?
	I'm not kidding.
	It's an anti-fat shaming thing.
	If you say we should lose weight, we're going to riots?
	And it's like, that's not going to last very long.
	No, it's not going to last very long.
	Pretty much for stamina you would have to riots if you just lost a few pounds.
	I just, I can't.
	I don't know.
	Put down the Cheetos!
	They not only do they think that it's more productive to riot instead of live a healthy lifestyle, they believe that it is so much more productive, in fact, that it deserves real estate on a button in the take-a-penny-leave-a-penny jar.
	I paid $1.50 for this button because I was like, I'm never going to find anything like this anywhere else.
	And do you know what the really unfortunate thing about this is?
	I was one of the last people to purchase something from that shop because it's shut down.
	Yeah.
	Because the evil capitalist patriarchy for some reason won't sustain it.
	Well, they don't want to buy that many Birkenstocks.
	I understand.
	It's a problem.
	And you could fill that market again.
	You could fill a market with fat pimps.
	See, and this is the thing.
	They're basically messing up because eventually it's gonna be me having the Nazi University, the feminist bookstore.
	I'll probably start a communist commune as well.
	Anything that I can make profitable, I think I'm gonna go for.
	Because I am a capitalist.
	Yes.
	It's like playing Harvest Moon at this point in RPG, only you end up making a lot of money off of stupid people.
	Communist cafeteria.
	It's always empty.
	It's always empty.
	Final question.
	Have you been following the Tommy Robinson controversy?
	Yes.
	I mean, there are some things that I've talked about in this where I'm like, man, I really do feel shame sometimes for some actions on behalf of my country.
	This is one thing I've got to imagine.
	Even some leftist Brits have come out and said, I can't believe this.
	This has gone really far.
	And I'm praying that the guy doesn't, I know you're an atheist, but I'm just praying and hoping the guy doesn't get hurt.
	This could end really badly.
	Well, yeah, I mean, OK, so the Tommy Robinson situation is interesting and complicated.
	When, something like three months ago, he was arrested for doing the same thing, which is filming and broadcasting outside or on court property when that's prohibited, because the worry is that it will prejudice the jury.
	And so there's a law to prohibit you doing this.
	And he was caught doing this.
	He was given a suspended sentence of three months, I think it was.
	and obviously told not to do that within that time.
	And within that time, he went and did the same thing.
	Right. And that was arrested and charged with potentially prejudicing a jury.
	And so the suspended sentence was just recalled.
	And so this is why he's gone to jail. But on the face of it, it.
	It looks like this one incident isn't really it looks like it's Tommy's fault and to be fair in this case It is Tommy's fault, but this isn't this isn't an isolated incident of the police being Frankly prejudiced and heavy-handed with Tommy, right?
	I mean there this is this is one bad example really because there are dozens of other examples where on film you will see leftist protesters attacking Tommy and his friends and and the police will arrest Tommy and not the attackers.
	And I see that regularly.
	And the question becomes here, the law isn't worth the papers printed on if it's not applied
	equally.
	And I searched high and low.
	It's very hard to find somebody else who got this kind of a sentence for for filming effectively
	a child rapist.
	You know, I mean, we're talking about let's be clear here.
	Yeah, listen.
	There's a law.
	I understand it.
	That's why we have single-party consent laws in the States.
	I think it's very important.
	But putting someone in a prison for effectively berating the worst of the worst among humanity, who get lesser sentences, that's the issue here.
	And then transferring him to a prison, which we're still waiting on some information.
	It sounds like... It sounds like... Do you think that... This final question and we have to go.
	Do you think that YouTube, social media, and governments are in cahoots because they removed this video where he talked about this happening?
	You know, it just got removed this week.
	Do you think there's some...
	It's not so much that they're in cahoots.
	It's more that governments are, especially European governments, which are...
	Even when they're not left-wing, they're quite left-wing, and they're quite progressive.
	Yeah, no, I understand.
	You know what I mean?
	For example, my prime minister claims to be a conservative but then she claims to be a feminist and that doesn't make sense.
	So it's not that they're in cahoots.
	It's really that the governments are chasing after the social media platforms because they're
	tired of people saying things that the governments don't like because we don't have free speech in Europe.
	Playing ball.
	Yeah.
	That is.
	Well, you said it.
	I mean, whenever I say it, a lot of people go, you don't know anything.
	You think America's the only place that's free speech.
	Yes.
	Yes, I do.
	Yes, I do, because of the Dreyfus Constitution.
	You're right.
	That's why.
	Yeah.
	You actually have a constitutional amendment that guarantees your freedom of speech.
	We don't have that.
	That's why I do not go back to Canada.
	Ireland and Poland?
	Maybe.
	They seem like they're a little bit more lenient.
	All right.
	Best place to find you is on YouTube.
	I know you're on Facebook now, but it's still Sargon of Akkad, right?
	You didn't have to change it?
	Okay.
	Sargon of Akkad.
	We'll have to get you back on sooner and get you back stateside sooner because I know people here are loving it.
	Well, I'm actually planning a trip to Texas at some point because I've got a lot of subscribers there and I have a lot of requests.
	So I think I have to bow to market demands in that regard and do my duty.
	I'll be sure to let the firebombers in Austin, Texas know.
	Sargon, thank you very much.
	Dean K next.
	Thank you.
	So first time, what were your thoughts?
	Yeah.
	If you were to buy one for yourself, what would you get?
	The 9mm PPQ?
	shoot the gun. It's fine. If you were to buy one for yourself what would you get?
	Probably the 9mm PPQ. Yeah. That's actually my mom just started
	shooting a few months ago and she bought a PPQ. There you go.
	What was it like, first time ever shooting a firearm?
	Well, I came in, I was very relaxed at the beginning.
	I picked up the Walther and was very good with it.
	You were very good?
	Yeah, right away.
	Off the bat, you were good.
	So, are you going to be buying a firearm?
	Absolutely.
	You know what you're going to be buying?
	Yeah, I'm going to be buying the Walther.
	You think you're going to buy the Walther?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I had something that was in my wallet.
	I don't know what.
	Maybe it's a tobacco beetle from all the pipes.
	I don't know.
	It could be a loose roofie.
	We have those hanging around the studio.
	But it's disgusting.
	By the way, very glad to have our next guest.
	I still don't get used to looking at you.
	I can't figure out if you're Kim Jong-un or Al Pacino's paterno in the HBO film.
	It's kind of a find your own truth on that one.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's a choose your own path.
	Either way, it ends up to someone being sexually accosted against their will.
	Next guest, big fan, at real Dean Cain.
	And I do have to plug it.
	He just sent it to me before the program.
	Masters of Illusion begins season five here in late June.
	He's filming another documentary on Holocaust deniers.
	A whole bunch of info.
	Dean Cain, did I miss anything up there?
	No, you didn't miss any of that up at all.
	The only thing you neglected to add was that on Tuesday I'll be being sworn in as a reserve police officer in St.
	Anthony's, Idaho.
	Wow!
	How did that come about?
	It's actually a task force that Eric Estrada is on, and he's a friend of mine for a long time.
	Eric Estrada is an actual police officer?
	He actually is an actual police officer, as I will be in less than a week.
	Did you have to go through training?
	Did you have to go through deployment?
	Oh yeah, all kinds of goodies.
	Okay, well then, congratulations.
	Seems like a long way to get your concealed carry permit out there.
	Yes it does.
	A lot of work.
	to get your character to show up.
	It may seem that way, but I do live in California.
	This is true.
	Let me just put that out there.
	That's the short path.
	I would pay to see Dean Cain and Steven Seagal come to Fisticuffs,
	because I know he had that show Law Man for a while.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That was tough to watch, Dean.
	I would run around him until he got tired, and I would claim victory after a heart attack.
	And then you...
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
	That's exactly what I want you to say.
	But I have to go to Russia to see him, and I don't want to go there.
	When Dean Cain and I get in a room...
	Bad things happen.
	You ever notice that he just always tries to allude to this stuff, but you're like, well, hold on a second, have you ever actually fought?
	Well, what I can say is you'd rather not find out.
	But have you?
	No, no, I've never fought.
	So, okay, speaking of which, you know, we never want to get, when we have celebrities who often find themselves opposite some of these other actors in films, we never want to get you guys in trouble or cause drama where there needn't be any.
	But Robert De Niro, I guess you're kind of at your wit's end with the guy.
	Well, I mean, to get up on stage at the Tonys and just say those two words?
	Uh, you know, about the current president.
	Fine if you don't agree with him, say something like that, but to just say that and then getting a standing ovation and doing the... So brave.
	Yeah.
	It's so not brave.
	That's the whole point.
	And I know that's what you meant, but I mean, it's, it's incredible to me.
	I do, it's embarrassing.
	It's so lemming-like.
	It's ridiculous.
	So I just don't understand, you know, yeah.
	Okay.
	So yes, the president has used press language in the past.
	Yeah.
	Wonderful.
	I've never supported it.
	I don't support it now.
	But that's just ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	And two wrongs don't make a right.
	And you can't blame Trump for his, you know, what he has said in the past.
	Honestly, this is getting, this is sounding very dad-like.
	Two wrongs don't make a right, Buster.
	I haven't!
	My son just turned 18, by the way.
	He graduated from high school.
	My wings are no longer clipped.
	I can go anywhere and do anything and he can come with me.
	Did you give him the boot out of the house right away so he could get a job?
	I told him, you know, you got three or four days.
	You gave him some lead time?
	He should have a picture notice on his bedroom door.
	And I'm keeping the gaming chair.
	Good.
	Do you find that the Robert De Niro stuff, for me, like I was able to put it on my mind for a while, now it's just I can't even go back and watch the movies I liked with him.
	It makes it hard.
	Yeah, I see that.
	I can make that distinction just because it's easy because I know too many actors as it is that would really pretty much ruin every movie I ever watched.
	True.
	So I can make that distinction.
	I think he's a fine actor.
	Obviously, he's got a great career.
	He does great work.
	It's just that sort of stuff.
	It just That was beyond the pale for me.
	And I'm really embarrassed for the people who stood up and applauded that because they're such hypocrites.
	Were it to happen, you know, I didn't love President Obama and his policies.
	But I wouldn't have ever stood up and done that.
	I probably would have.
	I'm not going to lie.
	But I wouldn't have expected a standing ovation from Hollywood.
	And here's also something else.
	I would say doing that in an awards ceremony would be much more brave than doing it toward Trump.
	That's why I remember Johnny Ramone when he said, I love the United States.
	I love George W. Bush.
	And you heard...
	Bill Maher?
	What a recession!
	Yeah, if you just compare it, it's not the same thing either because if you just compare
	Unemployment alone across the board you would have had a reasonable
	Excuse to chance and chance and you know denounce Obama because of his policies that led to those numbers
	But Trump is doing really well. So when you do when you boo Trump right now, it just kind of looks like you hate
	America Well, that's a good point Dean
	That's what Oprah was doing She was talking.
	She was like, now I know it's really hard for everyone out there right now.
	Are they so enclosed that they don't understand that most Americans, including people, by the way, in the bottom percentile as far as earnings, are keeping more of their check, that taxes are going down, that employment is going up.
	Are they not aware of this?
	Do they think everyone's going, yeah, the economy sucks right now?
	They are not aware of it.
	They think everyone is saying, yeah, the economy sucks right now.
	It's unbelievable because, you know, if you watch five different news channels, that's what you're going to hear.
	You're going to hear all the terrible things.
	President Trump and Kim Jong Il sat down, or Kim Jong Un.
	I can't tell because you guys, you all look alike.
	There's the dead one and the fat one.
	We get it all the time.
	Yeah.
	I'm Asian, I can say it, right?
	You're really stretching the limits of that yellow pass right there.
	Tanaka?
	That's my given name!
	Which I was accused of changing as I became a Hollywood guy.
	Even though I got adopted and that was the name I was given.
	Yeah, I know.
	Sorry about that.
	Asian-ness.
	Thank you for that!
	So you think it's just they have no idea?
	I think they have no idea.
	I really think they have no concept.
	Because they sit down, they have this historic summit, and this wonderful stuff happens, and they hear how it's terrible that he's sitting down and legitimizing a dictator.
	It's like, what?
	And just two weeks ago they were complaining about how we're pulling out of the Iran deal.
	I'm like, hold this thing and pick a lane!
	Pick a lane!
	We're used to the diamond lane, the HOV lane, I call it the carpool lane.
	And also I lane split on my motorcycle down the 405.
	I just blow up a doll in the next seat.
	Let me ask you this, Dean.
	I would put that Trump one, that Trump that's riding you, I'll put him in my passenger seat.
	He my daddy.
	He my daddy.
	Let me ask you this, as people who, a lot of people haven't seen this, although I will say there's been a definitive increase in plays on your Princeton Highlight since we've talked about it.
	Yes!
	It really is, people don't realize, people who don't know.
	Yes, so much they're actually flagging as hate speech.
	It's flagging as hate speech, it's really weird.
	And his name is fake.
	As someone who is a real athlete, a high-level athlete, what do you think, like we just kind of talked about Steven Seagal, but same thing with kind of Robert De Niro, you've heard him do this, what really bothers me more, so it's not that they say, oh, F Trump, okay, I understand, it sucks, but when they play this tough guy thing because they did four weeks of training to do fighting for the stage, you know, boxing for the camera, which is very different from boxing in real life, as someone who is a real athlete, people go watch American Gladiator back in the, I think it was the early 90s, Dean Cain won.
	Smoked.
	It was you and actually another good athlete, the guy from Scrubs.
	I forgot the actor's name.
	Yeah, that's McGinley.
	McGinley.
	Yeah, he was a great guy.
	Good athlete.
	But it wasn't even close at the finals.
	You smoked him.
	What do you think when you see these guys who play tough guy who, you know, they were part of the high school drama club?
	Yeah, it's...
	That doesn't bother me.
	I mean, they play tough guys.
	That's it.
	But it's all rhetoric.
	It's all baloney.
	You know, I listen when Chris Kyle says something.
	I listen to that.
	Yeah.
	You know, when somebody who was a former Ranger, if it's Sean Parnell that says it, I listen.
	You go, okay, this is a guy who's been right through it.
	Sure.
	But you never see them use that sort of language or that sort of a tone.
	Yeah.
	Because they know what it is.
	So, you know, De Niro going, oh, yeah, it's tough.
	I mean, I don't know what that was.
	Plus, you're 70-something years old.
	You guys are going to fight?
	I mean, what is that?
	I just don't get it.
	He did.
	Didn't he say he wanted to punch Donald Trump?
	Or was that Alec Baldwin?
	One of them said they actually wanted to fight him.
	I mean, that might have been De Niro.
	Are we in the playground in elementary school?
	I mean, that's what it is.
	They don't think about it before they speak.
	Because I've said this.
	Donald Trump was a guy, when he was running, for example, when he said Ted Cruz's dad assassinated JFK.
	I said, the problem with President Donald Trump, at this point, Donald Trump.
	He wasn't president.
	I said he's never gotten his ass kicked and it's not because there's nothing nothing wrong with being raised wealthy or silver spoon But there is something to be said for being a guy who's gotten your ass kicked or called on your BS at some point And I don't think President Trump has that's why he doesn't understand in the real world You call someone's wife ugly and say his dad assassinated JFK.
	You're probably gonna get your ass kicked, right?
	See that's a point but just saying I want to punch Donald Trump is It's at the point of being nonsensical, but the beauty of this is, this is happening at the same time we've talked about this.
	Everyone's sort of bemoaned that there will never be the big numbers of Johnny Carson again, or the numbers of the big three.
	But Cobra Kai is.
	Cobra Kai is getting 35, 40 million plays.
	Yeah, we had Ralph Macchio on the show.
	You've gone back to the big three with Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, and maybe HBO.
	A lot of these additional superfluous cable channels I sure hope so.
	I really hope you're right.
	Baby, want a bottle?
	You're gonna give me my bottle?
	the American public have more access to information. I really do think that
	people like De Niro are losing their stranglehold and they're like a baby
	being put to sleep right now. I sure hope so. I really hope you're right.
	Shh. Baby, want a bottle? You're gonna give me my bottle.
	No?
	Shh. Shh.
	Not giving me Biddy!
	Not giving me, not giving me bitty.
	You're gonna give me bitty.
	Stand in front of my face and say that.
	You know what I mean?
	It's one of those things.
	And if he did, I think I would probably just look at it as pathetic.
	I mean like, what the hell?
	But let me say this.
	All right, there you go.
	Because you said that, which made me very excited.
	Cause I finished, I have to work today Then my son and I are going to watch the first Karate Kid because he's never seen the first one.
	He's only seen the Jaden Smith one.
	Oh gosh, that's your fault as a parent.
	You've dropped it.
	It is.
	I take that one.
	You own that.
	Yeah, that's completely my fault.
	But we're going to watch the original one and then we're going to sit down and just rip through Cobra Kai.
	I'm so excited for that.
	It's a good, have you yet?
	You haven't seen it yet?
	Haven't seen it.
	Dying to see it.
	Very good.
	It's really worth watching.
	Very good show.
	And it really, it writes for what it is, the show.
	You know what I mean?
	It doesn't try to be more than it is, but there is, the characters are very empathetic.
	I've already talked about it on this show, but I would say it's one of the best shows to come out in a while.
	Unfortunately for YouTube, I think the numbers are showing that a bunch of people opened a YouTube Red account, watched Cobra Kai, and then closed it back up.
	Because, you know, you can binge watch right now.
	But I do recommend it.
	And then you can teach your son the lesson when he watches the original Karate Kid.
	See, that's very different from the Jaden Smith version, which is the only parallel universe where the black kid gets bullied by a bunch of smaller Asian kids.
	That's the only place that happens.
	Well, I'm my son's a jiu-jitsu guy, so he's gonna love it.
	Oh my gosh.
	I watched that Jaden Smith thing, and I just went in like, Oh!
	Like a kid!
	First instinct is to bully, even though he's a foot taller!
	What movie am I watching?
	That's pretty good.
	Oh my gosh.
	I have a friend, well, you know, I have friends actually.
	Well, he's been, I don't think if he's been on the show, but I spoke with him, Bob Sapp.
	Japanese people are terrified of black people.
	Do you realize this?
	Bob Sapp, everybody should be a little bit terrified of Bob.
	Everybody's terrified of Bob Sapp.
	Let me throw that out there.
	He can back it up.
	Yeah, and I know that the one was Chinese and I'm mixing Asians right now,
	but you don't care because you have a yellow pass.
	All right, that is at Real Dean Cain And it's Masters of Illusion Season 5, and where can people
	find that?
	It's local.
	So for us, it's the CW.
	So whatever that is, or whatever you are, whichever part of this lovely great earth of ours, I don't know where it is in, say, Dallas, Texas.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe where it could be in Austin.
	It could be Channel 3.
	It could be Channel 7.
	But you're going to see that wonderful punim on there.
	I think we have to get going.
	We have Derek Smalls.
	Derek Smalls from Spinal Tap on After This.
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	Closed but neither open. Alright, one of my, uh, I have to say this is probably the guest I'm most excited about ever
	having on our program.
	Very, very few accomplishments on this show that I'm proud of, genuinely speaking.
	And there are two musical artists who I've talked about wanting on this show.
	Alice Cooper, who we wanted to get on because of his fascinating biography, and our next guest, you know him, of course, from the band Spinal Tap, then known as Tap, and you know him, of course, you can follow him on Twitter at Smalls Life.
	His newest album is actually a solo album right now, Smalls Change, Meditations Upon Aging.
	You know who he is at this point, but I have Mr. Derek Smalls.
	Thank you, sir, for being here.
	Thank you, Steven.
	It's a pleasure.
	I am so glad to have you.
	Obviously, I know your work with the band quite a bit, and now you're going solo.
	Later in your career, what was the inspiration for doing this?
	When did you just say, you know what, did you wake up one day and say, this is for me?
	I wake up every day.
	When did I make this decision?
	The band, you know, has a history of breaking up.
	We don't break up.
	I shouldn't say breaking up because we don't do that.
	We don't, you know, yell and curse each other and throw things because we never had that many things to throw.
	But we would we would dissolve.
	Right.
	You know, you know, do you know that the the the old super kind of Pangea Do you remember that?
	No, I don't.
	It was like the big, it was the big supercontinent that they realized was before all the continents split off, there was one continent called Pangea.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And then, you know, it's like 300 million years ago, and then you turn around three million years later, and there's Africa, and there's South America, and there's Australia.
	Right.
	And that's what it was like.
	I turned around, and there was no more Pangea.
	Right.
	Well, it's almost like, you know, the West Indies Trading Company employed, I think, about a fifth of population Earth.
	And then, you know, even they had to change and evolve, and people went their own separate ways.
	And I'd say that the band would be certainly comparable in scope to that.
	So you don't break up, you more dissolve.
	So does this mean it's on amicable terms?
	Are you still good friends with people in the band?
	Are you saying there's no more West India Trading Company?
	Unfortunately, yeah.
	It's been a while.
	They might be in a new name.
	That's why they don't deliver anymore, probably.
	Probably.
	Not next day.
	Yeah.
	Well, Nigel and I are on good terms.
	He's got his hands full.
	I should say it's a hobby, but for him it's full-time because he's breeding miniature livestock down on the farm in Berkshire.
	Okay.
	And you know... What would that include, miniature livestock?
	I know Nubian goats, but what else is there?
	Well, he started with horses, because horses, as you may recall, again at the time of Pangea, probably not earlier or later, were smaller to begin with.
	We've bred them up.
	He's trying to breed them back down to where they came from.
	So if it reforms, they'll know where they are.
	But he's an extreme kind of personality.
	He's a guitar player.
	These are the Icaruses, rock and roll.
	They fly to the sun and get their wings burned.
	And then they've got to come and get sunscreen on their wings.
	So he's pushed it too far.
	The horses are now too small.
	He can't find truckies small enough to ride them.
	So he's got his hands full.
	And he does do goats now, as you mentioned.
	But those, again, now they're too small to milk.
	So, you know, he keeps hitting the wall.
	David, I have no idea.
	I get letters from him because I don't use the internet.
	I really shouldn't be doing this today.
	I appreciate you taking the time.
	Yeah, I would say about the goats, if he staggers, you know, that's a big thing.
	He may not have a lot of experience farming.
	If he staggers the goats with the milking, he might be a little bit more successful.
	So if they drink some alcohol, do they stagger?
	That can happen, yeah.
	When you stagger them, time-wise, you know, you milk one and you allow the other to sort of recharge.
	You can speak to me.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I see, I see.
	If you ask me, I will tell them.
	Yeah, I wouldn't feed the goats alcohol, but you never know, you could create a new thing.
	Let me ask you this, though, since, like you said, you don't use the internet a whole lot, what's it like, you know, going on the road now at your, respectfully, your age?
	You're older.
	You're much older.
	I'm older, yeah.
	But what does the internet have to... I mean, the internet didn't make me old.
	No, but being on the road now, is that hard?
	A lot harder, you know, at your age than when you were, you know, younger?
	I'd imagine it to be.
	Well, no, really.
	No, it's still fun.
	I mean, one of the cycles is called Rock and Roll Transplant, and it's about how rock and roll will keep you young.
	And there's another tune on the record.
	These songs all deal with the questions you're asking, Stephen, conveniently enough.
	And so one of them is called Don't Get Old.
	And it's about the rock and roll lifestyle.
	And it's about, basically, if you're at the top of, if you're at the pinnacle of anything, it's, you know, private jets and the best champagne and the best women with the best men, if that's what you're into.
	No judgment.
	And that's how you're touring?
	No.
	But if you're a few rungs down, like me, then it's, you know, can look a little seedy and a little dodgy.
	And you think, No.
	But you get up there and it don't go.
	That's the point of the song.
	No, it don't go.
	Because you think, what could I be doing otherwise?
	I'd be sitting in a bed sit, you know, waiting for the telly to burn out.
	Well, I'm curious because you say that, you know, there seems to be this duality to the album.
	I know the songs that you've talked about, but then you also have,
	She Puts the Bitch in the Obituary is one of your songs.
	She Puts the Bitch in the Obituary, yes.
	Yes, and then, and Hell's Toupee, where Satan is actually concerned about his aging appearance.
	So you kind of talk about sort of staying young, but there's also this,
	I noticed an underlying theme that it almost seems as though
	you have some fear of coming to terms maybe with the aging process.
	Well, yin has its own yang, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	For every yin, there's a yang.
	I think that's the way the Chinese put it.
	So, yeah, there's songs on the record like Memo to Willie, which Donald Fagan is a guest vocalist on, and Snarky Puppy Horns are on it.
	I mean, we've got great guests on the record.
	I know you have David Crosby, Keith Richards, right?
	I know Frampton, I think.
	Am I missing anyone?
	No, Frampton's out.
	Frampton's out.
	Oh, I'll probably miss him.
	Steve Vai, Joe Satriani.
	Steve Lukather, Richard Thompson, Paul Schaeffer, Rick Wakeman.
	It's a song about people, men, who think that there's a little problem downstairs.
	I come to your country and I see these adverts, you know, which have these blokes in their thirties, maybe early forties, nice looking geezers, you know, who are out in the lake.
	Very active.
	I understand the theme.
	and piece of carpet or, you know, hiking or bicycling in a nice part of the city.
	Very active. I understand the theme. Very active.
	Looks like they're getting it on. And all of a sudden a voice comes on. When the time comes,
	will you be ready? And I'm thinking, is this some kind of epidemic that I've missed? So
	the point of the song is you need to take a pill, you know, just give a stern talking to.
	Get it up!
	Get it up!
	That's the song.
	So it's not a negative, it's not a positive, it just is.
	It's just sort of an isolated motivational speech for Willie.
	For the willy, yeah.
	Everybody needs a pep talk.
	You talk a lot about meditation, I know, in a lot of interviews.
	Is this something, do you do specific meditations for that anatomy?
	For willy, it sounds like maybe you do.
	No.
	No, no, no, no.
	Meditation would slacken you up a bit, I think.
	Yeah.
	I haven't tested it myself, but I believe that to be the case.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I think that's why the monks do it.
	Yes.
	Well, at the very least, the monks do it, and they do the Mongolian throat singing.
	That's something that also I've seen people do.
	You'd be amazed at the amount of, as a musician, the amount of wind that can be moved.
	Final question, let me ask you this.
	You seem, obviously, you're sharp, you're with it, you're doing a solo career now.
	What keeps you going, what keeps you so fresh compared to, it seems like there's a real steep drop off with rockers.
	Either you have people like yourself or Alice Cooper, if people like Mick Jagger,
	and then you have people kind of like, you know, go the route of Ozzy Osbourne.
	How do you do it, what's the secret?
	Well, I do have a physical detriment that I maintain, which is I like to run, resistance run against water.
	And, you know, you're supposed to do it in a pool.
	It's great for your lungs, it's great for your heart, it's great for your legs.
	I don't have a pool.
	I do it in a tub.
	So you get some of the same effect.
	More to the point, Stephen, bass players are not like guitar players.
	We're not those excessive, fly to the sun and get your wings burned type people.
	With the glue of the band, with the foundation of the building, you know, with the lukewarm water, as I say.
	So, I think that gives us a little bit of staying power that the High Flyers may not have.
	I'm just a guess.
	I may be right.
	It sounds like the bass line keeps the whole tune together, so it makes sense that you keep the whole band together.
	You're the glue that holds it together.
	I would imagine, though, listen, I mean, I would... Yeah, go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	I was just going to say, you know, drummers come and go.
	The bass player is always there.
	That's a history with you.
	I didn't want to touch it.
	I didn't know if it was a sore spot.
	In your history of touring, your drummers with your band, they have not fared very well.
	Yes.
	When you're going solo now, how do you deal with the backup instruments?
	Who do you use as a drummer, and has it been going a little less rocky?
	Well, it goes rocky in the sense that we rock, but I know what you mean.
	Here's the thing.
	I'm not a satanist per se, but I do understand a few things about the old supreme one, and he's having up with the number three.
	OK, his final tap was David, Nigel and me.
	And we were a threesome, but we had people with us, you know, a drummer.
	So Satan was hung up with that.
	And he thought, no, no, no, no, no.
	You're turning a three into four.
	I can't have that.
	Can't have that.
	Yeah.
	Freaked out a bit, the old Lucifer.
	Now I'm a one.
	I'm a solo artist.
	OK.
	Every drummer's played on this record.
	Chad Smith, Taylor Hawkins, Todd Sukumudan.
	I'm glad to hear that, but that doesn't necessarily... I don't know if that proves your theory, because as long as you have a guitarist and a drummer, you still have at least three members in the band, so someone's got to be number three.
	But they're not the band.
	They're just my side man.
	We're not a band.
	It doesn't hit Satan in the same way, in the same part of his Yeah, I'm not exactly sure on the biology of the underworld.
	You say you're not a Satanist per se.
	What does that mean?
	LeVayian Satanist?
	Yeah, I mean, I don't, you know, I don't engage in rituals and things like that.
	I just, you know, I realize that this is an important character in the scheme of the earth and it's good to pay attention to and keep in good terms, you know.
	It's like Trump in North Korea, you know, why piss him off?
	Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
	That makes a lot of sense, and it seems as though, you know, sometimes you just gotta out-crazy the other crazy guy, and then everyone's crazy!
	The album, we do have to get going, thank you so much, is Smalls Change Meditations Upon Aging, and people can find that where, Mr. Smalls?
	Where's the best place for people to find it?
	Everywhere records are either sold or rented.
	It's extremely available right now, but Apple Music, iTunes, Spotify, the strange chap at the corner who still sells physical records over there.
	Yeah.
	Well, I wouldn't want to plug him.
	He's probably bootlegging.
	You're not making much profit off of that, but I appreciate the spirit.
	That is Derek Smalls.
	Thank you so much, and we have to wrap this show up.
	Thank you very much, Mr. Smalls.
	You be well and we'll look forward to seeing how this works.
	Once you go to it, John's like, wow, what was that panel?
	Breaking down the binary.
	Yeah, that was it.
	Jeff goes, that's so good.
	It was the best.
	Yeah.
	I talked to the guy, one of my friends, who kicked out the robot.
	I showed up a little late, I guess.
	Really?
	Like, oh, the robot, what was that about?
	Oh you must have missed that.
	Ha ha ha ha.
	Oh you fucked it up.
	Don't start without me, Tom. Wait until I get back.
	Wait up!
	Wait up!
	I'm moving a heavy-ass rowboat!
	You ever seen a really fat guy float on his back?
	Yeah.
	It's one of the funniest things.
	We've all been to pools.
	Looks like Mr. Ratburn in Arthur when it was like a shark thing, only it's a gut.
	Thank you so much to Sargon of Akkad, Dean Cain, Derek Smalls.
	Fantastic show.
	We have an unbelievable lineup next.
	One thing I'm really excited about, Brian Shaw, World's Strongest Man, is going to be on.
	I'm not sure if we have Lacey Green on for a long form.
	And we're going to have, obviously, the big video Monday.
	Sven Computer, who invaded... And listen, just in case you're wondering, is this going to be the video debunking democratic socialism that I send along?
	No.
	This is not the place for that.
	Hopefully you just really get a huge laugh out of it, because you realize that they do operate behind closed doors.
	They claim they want one thing, and then we go behind closed doors, and they're trying to teach you how to get taxpayer-funded puberty blockers for six-year-olds.
	Yeah, what more of a safe space can you get when it's one against how many in a single room on their terms?
	You almost messed him up.
	Yeah, I almost messed him up good.
	Motherboards are expensive.
	I think continuing, too, with this line.
	We have Anthony Camilla, I know, next week.
	We haven't had her in a while.
	I'm really excited about that.
	I actually, at one point, didn't know if we were on the outs because he hadn't been on in a while, and because some people who were at his network are now at CRT.
	No.
	So he's a great guy.
	A lot of people actually were asking me that, and I never answered.
	So just so you know, Anthony Comey is going to be on.
	I'm really excited.
	He's an encyclopedia of comedy.
	Yeah, he is.
	Encyclopedia Britannica of comedy.
	Even though he never did stand-up, very, very funny, very sharp guy.
	Has his demons.
	You know, we were just talking about Tommy Robinson, and follow me on Twitter, and NotGayJared on Twitter, and we'll do everything, because we can't always post videos about Tommy Robinson, but on Facebook, on Twitter, on Instagram, we're going to try and keep you guys updated.
	I really am just, you know, I know thoughts and prayers sound like they don't mean much anymore, but I really do feel bad for the guy.
	And you know what, you do realize, you get to this point now, you know, the left cannot complain about civility.
	When they push you this far.
	I was like, hold on a second.
	Well, someone wanted to firebomb me.
	And I posted saying, hey, if you see these people trying to firebomb us, stop.
	And you ban my post?
	Well, can we just find some common ground?
	No!
	Can we just have some civility?
	No!
	You have a child rapist, and then you have Tommy Robinson calling out the child rapist.
	Maybe he skirted the law.
	I understand.
	Maybe some gray area there.
	I understand.
	Maybe he broke... But he gets a harsher sentence?
	Then he says, listen, can you see our point of view?
	No!
	No, we can't.
	We are Mr. and Mrs. Civility here.
	We're the ones who started the Change My Mind segment.
	We had Christopher Titus on when he came on and told me, you don't care about dead children?
	We had him back!
	But you cannot push people this far and then bitch about the divide, bitch about the ideological divide in this country.
	That's why I'm okay with it.
	We have to fight back so hard at this point.
	Put it this way, if Tommy Robinson gets killed in prison, I will personally be advocating for a revolution.
	And I don't mean just some words.
	If that man gets killed in prison, if that happens, that's about as bad as it gets, right?
	That's to sound the alarm.
	And I'm not being conspiratorial here.
	We've reached this point where just today it cascaded.
	How did we violate?
	We don't even know how we're violating policies.
	And it's almost like they're not explaining.
	Yeah, for example, it's like, well, hold on a second.
	They hosted a town hall.
	Yes.
	Was open.
	Yes.
	Invitation.
	Yes.
	Single-party consent state.
	Yes.
	The man was handing out his card, Dr. Rex Butt.
	Actual name.
	Yes.
	We videotaped it where they were talking about putting kids on puberty blockers.
	Yes.
	Why is it removed?
	He didn't like it.
	Can you find common ground?
	Here's something that I think is really important for our audience, is to understand that we're not just complaining because, oh, it hurt our channel or hurt our... What we're going up against is the entire mechanism for which you receive information.
	Yeah.
	It's being curated by people behind closed doors to see exactly what they want you to see, day in and day out, and it goes well beyond our channel.
	And they try to feed you that, along with that information, hey, let's have a dialogue.
	You don't want a dialogue!
	And this is one thing they often say, too.
	Oh, the situation's a little bit more nuanced than that.
	Conservatives are so reductive.
	That's why we're divided.
	No, it's not more nuanced.
	Sometimes there is no more nuance.
	They said firebomb.
	Loud North Crowder changed my mind.
	We said, hey guys, be aware they might try to firebomb ya!
	Where's the nuance in that?
	And you banned our post.
	One person is a child rapist.
	One person reports on someone being a child rapist.
	Where's the nuance in that?
	One person obeys the law to create content and employs people.
	One person flagrantly disregards it.
	Where's the nuance in that?
	And you can't just keep asking for nuance while you push people further and further.
	When you push them to a cliff, they're gonna do some crazy, desperate, desperate things.
	Listen, we're having a meeting with half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond on Friday, because there's some things behind the scenes, that when I think about, and I try to focus on the positive, and I talk about this a lot, and I know usually this final segment is somewhat inspirational, but here's the truth.
	When I think about it, if I spend more than 45 seconds, I get really pissed off!
	Because we've been playing by the rules, and all of the people that you see in this studio, not to mention everyone in the edit suites and people who write at ladderwithcrowder.com, people like Courtney and Brodigan and Corey, they depend On us knowing the rules to make a living.
	What are the rules?
	Okay, here's the rule sheet.
	Alright, we're following the rules.
	We're gonna ban you anyway.
	But it's more nuanced.
	Can you tell me the nuance?
	Nope!
	But can you just be civil about it?
	Piss off!
	I'm not gonna be civil about it.
	Of course I'm not going to be civil about it.
	This term all the time, you know, we could do with being a little bit more reductive.
	I was talking with someone about this the other day.
	I think it might actually be a debate that hasn't been uploaded yet that might be uploaded to the channel.
	I'm not entirely sure, but they say reductive.
	Reductive.
	What's wrong with being reductive?
	You've heard me say this, but I just watched The Darkest Hour again recently.
	Gary Oldman, big conservative in Hollywood, for those who don't know.
	Google search Gary Oldman, Nancy Pelosi.
	You will not be disappointed by the quote.
	But Winston Churchill was absolutely reductive.
	We will never, ever, ever, ever, ever surrender.
	Doesn't get much more reductive than that.
	But what's wrong with it?
	What's wrong with it?
	What's wrong with never, ever, ever surrendering to Hitler?
	That you'll fight with everything you have?
	It is absolutist.
	It is black and white.
	It is reductive.
	It is your job to prove to me why it's wrong.
	Just saying it's reductive doesn't mean anything.
	Just when people say, well, can't we have an honest conversation?
	When people just say something, or they say something so emphatically they want you to skim over it, that's reductive.
	A lot of people get scared.
	Oh, oh, oh, what is that?
	Say, OK, how so?
	What's wrong with that?
	What's wrong with my statement?
	When people say things like, oh, biology is a social constant, we all know that.
	Why?
	You just made a reductive statement in trying to claim that I was reductive.
	See how that works?
	Why is it wrong?
	And this is also why I have a problem with the right when people say that Tommy Robinson was sent to a 70% Muslim population prison.
	This was reported widely by several different sources.
	We had an article almost printed up on the website, and we said, hold on, hold on.
	Reg the Beast, our researcher, and Sven Computer, we said, let's make sure, because I'm seeing these sources, but they're actually just constantly being licked back to the same sources.
	And it turned out it wasn't true.
	Thank God we didn't publish it.
	The truth should be enough!
	This is why I have such a problem to grind with the conspiratorial right who say, by any means necessary, and they just want to lie.
	No!
	No, that doesn't help at all either.
	Because then you give them some ammo.
	It's not the truth will set you free like some stupid trope that people are like, the truth will set you free!
	That's not what I'm saying.
	But the truth, in this case, is enough.
	And then when you state the truth and they tell you it's reductive, well guess what the burden is on them to prove to you why it's wrong?
	Sometimes the truth, by its very nature, is reductive.
	That's why it's the truth.
	Certainly absolute truth.
	Absolute truth is the definition of reductive.
	Let me give you some other truths that are absolute truths that are reductive.
	I'm getting tired.
	My brain's getting reductive.
	Firebomb them!
	That's pretty absolute!
	Please don't firebomb me!
	That's pretty absolute!
	I raped a kid!
	That's pretty absolute!
	Don't rape that kid!
	That's pretty absolute!
	This is YouTube policy!
	That's pretty absolute!
	We're following YouTube policy!
	That's pretty absolute!
	We changed our policy.
	We're gonna unemploy all of your staff.
	That seems pretty absolute.
	So when people try to tell you there's no absolute truth, they're usually doing so in telling you through some form of absolute truth, which, surprise, is reductive.
	We're at the point right now where you cannot allow them to push you off a cliff.
	So prepare.
	Be the pig who builds his house out of brick.
	If you need a half-Asian or you need a lawyer with a lot of consonants in his last name, get ready, because it's coming.
	Do not allow them to push you off that cliff.
	Because sometimes you can predict that they're going to push you off the cliff, like Tommy Robinson.
	Guess what they do?
	They push you off the cliff.
	Stop.
	Get your heels.
	Get your Mexican-style cowboy heels ready if you need to.
	Think of it as an acne cartoon before the end of that cliff, because once you're off, you are gone.
	And then start pushing back as hard as you possibly can because the scary part is now they're not even trying to hide it.
	They just say, that's reductive.
	They just make a statement and assume you're gonna skim over it.
	Don't skim over it.
	Right now is the time to dig your heels and look at what they're doing.
	It is terrifying.
	I wish I could be inspiring.
	I wish I could tell you that I wake up in a cold sweat when I see stuff like this.
	It's that bad out there.
	You've got to do something.
	That's why I say I've changed my mind.
	Keep quiet.
	Keep your head down.
	Keep yourself safe.
	No.
	There is not going to be a tomorrow as far as freedom of speech.
	There will not be a tomorrow as far as you being able to fight back.
	You are going to go off the cliff if you don't fight right now.
	Hopefully you had fun though.
	It's going to be a really funny show on Monday where Sven goes into the LGBTQAA pay festival.
	They almost kick his ass.

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