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It's June, which marks Louder With Crowder's third annual Cultural Appropriation Month, where we appreciate and appropriate all the great cultures that this world has to offer.
This week, we whisk you away to the ancient and reigning world champions in violations of human rights undefeated...
EGYPT!
It's like a pointer but very unwieldy.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Hopper's fine.
Hopper's fine.
A to the death took all your first parts.
Mike's totally fine.
He's not even a person.
Mike's fine, too.
He's just sleepy.
Yeah.
Very sleepy.
Couldn't think about a whole lot for Egypt.
Before we get to anything else, some fun Egypt facts.
Of course, this is the second to last week in Cultural Appropriation Month.
You send in, you win a costume contest every single week, whoever has the best costume.
Before we get to anything, Egypt facts.
Number one, parasites actually caused men to urinate blood.
They were so common that the Egyptians thought that men had menstrual cycles.
That is a true fact.
Number two, the second, always kept several naked slaves nearby whose bodies were smeared in honey in order to keep the flies from getting too close to him.
So, ladies, man.
Chivalry is not dead.
Also, women aren't granted citizenship.
At all.
At all.
Oh, wow.
That's disappointing.
You can beat the hell out of them.
So, we have great guest, we have Ben Shapiro on the show today.
We have Anthony Kumiya on the show today, whom I'm happy to have back, and we have Richard Painter on the show today, and the coach of the South Korean soccer team, whose name escapes me because I can't pronounce it.
Yeah, Yong.
Producing with me in video studio as always is Jared, who is not gay.
Follow him on Twitter at notgayjared.
Meet us, crowd her with your comments, your thoughts, your photoshops, your costumes this week's I Fulfill My Legal Obligations, Jared.
Conclusion?
SOMEBODY HELP ME!
Are we good?
We're good now.
We'll fix that in post.
At G. Morgan Jr., what's the wine of the day?
Pharaoh Moans.
Pharaoh Moans.
Oh, I see.
I thought you were going to have, yeah, Manischewitz, but you actually thought of Egypt.
Are those boils on your face, or is that like zit cream?
I just had a rough day.
Zit cream boils.
You look like Linus if he did an ad for Clearasil.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I think it's supposed to be some kind of skin disease.
Sven Computer, are you ready with the overlays?
I'm ready with the overlays, BB.
I'm a little sad the Angel of Death killed both my babies, but they gave me the opportunity to learn how to juggle, so that's good.
At least they were designed for a purpose.
Terrible start.
I'm so sad.
What would cheer me up, though, is if people find their way to my social media and follow me at Sven Computer.
See what happened there?
Question of the day before we get to any of the topics.
Listen, with the situation with the deportation of the families at the border and Trump being blamed for it, and Facebook and Twitter, the outrage of politicians, are we supposed to assume that nobody now has Google anymore to actually know from where this policy stems?
We'll talk about this with Ben Shapiro.
We'll give you a brief timeline after this.
I am amazed.
Tell me, I want to hear from you guys what you think.
A lot of people started off the week going, I can't believe President Donald Trump did this, and then said, oh, this has effectively been in effect since 97.
What's happened?
These pictures are from 2014.
What's going on?
Also, second question, do all Asians look alike?
I contend that not all, but most.
Yep.
The vast majority.
We actually covered a story that said that.
I'll talk to you about it in a minute.
Yeah, we're going to talk to you about it in a minute.
It's probably the funniest story I've seen all week, aside from Dumpster Fire.
So, to start off with a little good news.
A lot of people say sometimes it's a little bit dark when you start the show, so a sliver of light.
Today, Peter Fonda was ripped from his Beverly Hills home and shipped to a timeshare with Kevin Spacey.
So that's a good way to start the day.
There we go.
Spacey looks a little too happy there.
Spacey's probably disappointed.
It's not good for him.
Well, I think at a certain point you're so old that you're young again.
Oh, that's true.
It's like high-waisted jeans.
You're right.
You start to lose your eyesight.
Only with consent.
So this video's gone viral this week.
Democratic U.S.
Senate-it.
This is really hard to speak, guys.
I'm gonna do this for a little bit.
I can't pronounce my words.
Democratic U.S.
Senate.
A candidate for the U.S.
Senate who's a Democrat.
Minnesota.
Son of a bitch!
Say my name!
Say my name!
It's not that one.
Minnesota.
This is not a joke.
Richard Painter.
This was his ad.
In its entirety.
Take a look.
Some people see a dumpster fire and do nothing but watch the spectacle.
Some are too scared to face the danger, or they think it will benefit them if they just let it keep on burning.
Others shrug and say, oh, all this talk of a dumpster fire, it's just fake news.
There is an inferno raging in Washington.
But here in the land of 10,000 lakes, we know how to put out a fire.
I am Richard Pater, and I approve of this message.
So, before you get mad at us for smearing him, we saw- he has not had a stroke.
He has not had- no.
No, he's definitely not had a stroke.
There was an interview where he said he had.
He may have, but he personally denied it.
He personally denied it.
Okay, clear.
That's what the article said.
That's what he said in the interview.
He said it.
I wasn't going to bring it up.
I wasn't going to bring it up.
So we can say he looks like a retarded Clint Eastwood screwed a retarded Ron Perlman, then had a stroke.
Yes, exactly.
I'm trying to think of... Retards in the Senate.
It's time.
I've done the math.
You are definitely going out.
By the way, as bad as that ad is, apparently the taping of the ad was actually way worse.
And you know we got our hands on exclusive footage.
We have a lot of plants here at Lighthouse Crowder, and we actually have some reels, some B-roll, some outtakes, some exclusive footage from that ad.
Some people see a dumpster fire and do nothing but watch the spectacle.
Some are too scared to face record low unemployment, record high job participation, a booming stock market, energy independence.
You'd think they'd never seen a dumpster fire!
Cut!
Three out of four major American cities are plagued by dumpster fires.
Cut!
Only you can prevent dumpster fires by voting for me.
Dumpster fire!
So dumpster fire is a term that all the kids are using now.
It's a term like Yeah, that's the one.
Okay, it's cool dirt, yeah.
Yeah, it's really cool.
F***ing hard to see.
I took a dump in the fire!
No!
Donald Trump took a dump in the fire!
Dumpster fire!
I didn't start the fire!
No.
It was always burning when Trump started turning!
Cut!
Cut!
Dumpster fire.
Can we say garbage fire?
It's easier for me to see than dumpster fire.
No, no, dumpster fire is a colloquialism, so yeah, just...
I can't say that either.
Here in the land of a thousand lakes.
Here in the land of a million lakes.
We have a lot of lakes here in Minnesota.
At least we used to.
Before all the dumpster fires.
Is it as simple as that America?
I think so.
When you think Richard Painter, think dumpster fire!
Richard Painter for U.S.
Senate.
Because only he can prevent dumpster fires!
That's why I always change my mind.
I've talked about this.
I am the least objective person at watching anything that we do that isn't character driven.
I have to trust you guys.
I'm like, listen, I can't watch myself.
Please let me know how this turns out.
He had no one around him to say, this is a disaster.
This is a dumpster fire.
They just got done SNL and they just got done capitalizing on embarrassing conservative ads.
And then their own team goes and they do that.
The leftist blogs just never show the video.
They just put on quotes.
Yeah, they do.
It's only in quotes.
They don't want to show you.
Yeah, it's just quotes and screenshots.
Because they've cast the film before they've had a live read.
Speaking of flaming, the BBC has a new report on the Arab world's only gay radio station.
The station plays music and issues are discussed in depth, but LGBTQ contributors LGBT. They haven't added the queue
Wow a little on the They don't identify themselves as sexually active on air
sounds like a trap I am the only gay radio station!
Everyone sign up here, get a guestbook, and you'll never see it again.
Come to the roof.
No, really, if you actually listen to the radio, it's just gay karaoke with the lyrics changed.
They say we gay, that it's not alright, they want us dead to burn us all alive.
I don't care if all that's true, Cause you do me and baby I beg you.
GIFT I am so GIFT
you We are so gay.
Like Supergay.
Well, I'll just have to take your word for it, because I'm not tuning in.
I'm not falling for it.
Not getting my hands on it.
We're on iHeartRadio!
I don't care.
They've gayed everything now.
I don't want none of your mailings.
Somebody else come in the bagels.
By the way, pooping is dangerous and creates the same pain as childbirth for sloths.
I knew it.
This was just discovered.
It says sloths only release their bobbles once a week.
The act of pooping occurs in the forest floor, which can be a dangerous place for sloths as predators lurk there.
And matters are made even worse when they read Sloth's Digest.
About half of the sloth fatalities occur when they are doing this ritual.
I don't know how they refer to it as a ritual.
I just thought, I don't know, like, this just goes to tell that the endangered species list is bullshit.
It is.
It's complete and utter crap.
If we stopped hunt, I don't know if anyone's hunting sloths, but if we stopped all of it tomorrow, half of them would still die.
From pooping.
50% chance of dying they say at the toilet, or actually 100% if you're famed rock star Sloth.
Sloth Presley.
Or Elvis Slothly, to the uninitiated.
He's still alive.
But unlike with childbirth, you don't have to hear the sloth complain about constipation for nine months.
Oh!
Ooh, it's true, though.
It is true.
It is true.
Lots of constipation that I read about.
By the way, the annual Pony Festival just happened.
It's not what you think.
Real quick.
Where people compete in events and classes just the same as real horses do.
Not just the same.
This is Brand X. These events are very competitive.
Just like a regular horse show event, we end up with some clashes and wrecks.
People go down over the jumps.
You failed at a pony festival, sir.
This is just, that's what, when I watched that clip, look, you failed at a human, meaning, okay, let me put this into context.
There's normal society, okay?
Superior, by the way, to pony fetishists in every way.
I'm okay saying it.
Then there's a loooong layer of sh**, including ventriloquists, social justice warriors, and Xbox News hosts, soccer players.
Then, finally, there's pony fetishists, and then there's you!
David Caridy is looking down from heaven, saying, that's kind of embarrassing.
Even Macaulay Culkin was like, what are you doing with your life?
What are you doing with your life?
This comes from the only kid Michael Jackson didn't fondle.
I think it was just a genius move.
I love how Gerald isn't saying anything today.
Completely quiet.
Well, he's grieving.
This next one's right down center plate for you.
Two people were arrested in Oklahoma City for having drunken sex in the middle of an intersection.
So that's a real thing.
Why is that down the middle of the street?
Well, nothing would sound out of the ordinary.
Until you see their mug shots.
Look at the mug shots.
The woman pleaded not guilty to charges of bestiality.
Which, by the way, in the great state of Oklahoma includes, but is not limited to, the rock eater from The NeverEnding Story.
We found that out.
When your face looks like a cliff, you know you must have a huge d*** to get laid in an intersection.
I don't care how drunk she was.
But your honor, in my defense, I was so wasted, I thought he was the nothing.
I was buzzed.
He looked like a treyou.
We made some bad decisions.
What a good movie.
I regret all the things.
Mostly living in Oklahoma though.
But I'm fortunate to have this child in my life.
Oh my gosh, giving birth is going to be painful.
It's going to be like passing the biggest kidney stone ever.
So, Dale Altman, a marijuana farmer.
Was cut off by the erupting Koloa volcano.
He refused to give up on his dream claiming that it's his main source of income and that quote, we are not stupid, we thought this out.
He says if you look at that image with the lava, there's nothing left by the way, he has no power left.
You let it out.
We're all sitting here laughing, but he actually comes from a long line of experienced narcotic creators and distributors.
Like his brother, actually, who grows opium poppies in the Tornado Valley.
Here you go.
And his uncle, who built a meth lab next to the lair of Godzilla.
So there's that.
Godzilla dies, yeah.
Einstein's 20-20 on that one.
Einstein is always 20-20, and pick better spots.
I mean, there's Walmart parking lots everywhere.
I will not leave my pod plants, even though literally molten lava has obliterated my entire existence, creating acid rain that singes the skin and air that burns your lung cavity.
But I'm not addicted.
I can quit anytime I want.
What you don't realize, David, is Big Pharma suppresses the fact that marijuana cures melted arms.
Yes, yes.
It stops lava.
It's the only non-substance.
Big Pharma created the volcano, which, by the way, doesn't exist because the Earth is flat, and it would go like this.
I've seen the video.
Either way, I'm just asking questions.
He has no house.
He's gone.
We're going to end on this?
Okay.
That's awesome.
We're going to end on he has no house.
By the way, let's just go through this real quick because really quickly we'll speak with Ben Shapiro about it.
Trump, by the way, didn't separate families.
This is a whole bunch of misdirected outrage.
Let's just do a quick timeline to clear this up, okay?
Sometimes actual journalism happens, first off.
Even at CNN.
Case in point, Brooke Baldwin called out I'm liking her more and more.
...consul general Tammy Baldwin over the blatant hypocrisy.
Look at the clip.
So many people in this country are certainly outraged by the cages and the thermal blankets
and the facilities housing these kids.
You know, they were all there in 2014 under President Obama and my question to you, Senator Baldwin, is did you speak up against them then?
You know, on this issue that we I'm trying to... I was just... I'm liking that broad more and more.
That's a bold question, actually.
Every day, I'm not joking, in my prayers, I ask that he'll come on the show.
2018, that's a bold question?
Are you serious?
For CNN, I mean... I know, I'm just saying, come on, that's not cool.
She knew she didn't have the answer.
It takes zero balls to ask that question.
She has no balls.
Well, you didn't have to say it.
This is a dumpster fire!
So, the Florida's consent policy, by the way, it was signed into law under Clinton, okay, in 1997.
Direct quota prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention, even if they are with their parents, for more than 20 days.
Okay?
That's from the New York Times.
It's not fake news, okay, Republican, alt-right, Facebook page.
It's from the New York Times.
These are your own sources.
Yes, these are your own sources.
The Obama administration violated this policy.
Of course, they angered immigration advocates, saying you detain mothers and refuse to release—blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so this week, agencies began enforcing the immigration law with a zero-tolerance policy.
There's been an increase, yes, in parents being detained, of course, and children being released into these what they call tender care facilities.
I know, I'm not a big fan of the name either.
It's amazing what happens with statistics when you go from 0% enforcement to 100%.
Yeah, exactly.
Not even 100%.
If you go from 0% to 1%.
To any, to any percent!
And yesterday, of course, Donald Trump signed an executive order to end all of this because you can't, you know, the polls.
By the way, the photos of children in cages, a lot of them from 2014, just so you know.
So that's the, we'll talk about more, anything else that I've missed?
I just think we've lost our ability to have rational thought with this.
This is crazy.
It's a no-win situation on both sides.
14, Obama's crazy for doing it.
Now, Trump's crazy for doing it.
It's like, you just can't win.
Can we just build a wall, please, and be done?
Do something.
Something!
Start a little soccer team on the border?
I don't know.
You want to punch them?
That is not what you misconstrued by words!
You're supposed to be the nice one, what were you saying?
What is just so stupid about this, BP, is that the executive in the Trump administration is blamed for executing the law.
I know.
So it's the legislative's job to change it, but we're acting like Trump is a god and he just decides what is being done.
Well, they did decide to enforce it.
These agencies decided to enforce it.
That's the law.
But exactly!
It is the law.
That's the issue.
Now, if you have someone who doesn't respect rule of law, it doesn't mean that the rule of law is not a thing, that it's a figment of your imagination.
And it doesn't mean that it's a human right to be a citizen of the United States.
That was the big thing we did that changed my mind to build the wall.
People said, why did you pick this?
It was like a strop.
It was awesome.
There were professors.
There was no one who had any kind of a coherent argument.
It was just, the wall's kind of mean.
So we're going to do it again and hopefully get something a little bit more substantive from people.
But it was really tough.
It was hard to pick which ones to run because no one made a really competitive argument.
No!
Nothing convincing.
We can paint some cartoons on it.
We gave you the best.
We gave you the cream of the crop.
Yeah.
What'd you get?
Backpack Man.
Alright, so another story that I think is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.
This is a true story.
And we're going to be asking, do all Asians look alike, or is it racist to think that a lot of them do?
So South Korean coach of the soccer team, Shin Tae-yong?
Shin Tae-yong?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Pretty good.
He admitted to pulling an old switcheroo, mixing around the jersey numbers.
recent training sessions and warm-up games because he believes Westerners find it difficult quote to distinguish
between Asian Yeah, she did it more specifically to confuse the Swedes
during practice By the way Snopes refused
refuses it to not play that one.
This is fact check true.
Yeah, zero Pinocchios.
Will, all right, I do have to be careful with this.
Maybe I'm going to pull it back a little bit.
So here to comment, actually, on the controversy now is South Korean soccer coach, I think we have him, right?
Shin Tae-hyung, thanks for being here.
Thanks for having me.
Me so happy.
Yeah, there's no way this is going to go well.
So, Mr. Young, explain to us why you're at the center right now of this controversy, if you can.
Ah, people have no sense of humor no more.
During practice, I had my players switch jerseys around.
Just play, no danger.
Okay, right.
So you had players exchange jerseys, but why?
I do it to mess with the Swedes.
Just a little joke so the bastards mix up players.
No danger.
So you thought they wouldn't be able to tell your players apart if they switched jerseys?
You tell them apart?
Well, I...
See, that's my point!
If you can't, it's certainly not some filthy Swede.
Just playing on white guilt.
Joke!
No danger!
I don't think anyone's insinuating danger here.
Listen, listen.
White people are afraid now to say all Asians look alike, but let me let you in on a secret.
Listen.
We all look alike!
No, I don't think.
I don't think that's true.
Okay, let me show you.
Let me show you.
If you were to take our Ford, some young man, and describe him to a police sketch artist, what would you say?
I don't know.
Black hair.
Brown eyes.
Relatively short.
Oval face.
Yeah, okay, okay. Now, if you look at Hwang Young Hee Chan, our striker, how do you describe him to police?
How you, what would you say?
Black hair, brown eyes, relatively.
And if you took our midfielder, Kim Sung Young player, he knocked up whole knickers door. How you describe him?
Probably black hair, brown eyes, and relatively.
You racist son of a bitch!
No, listen, here's the thing, I didn't mean... No, I'm joking.
I'm just joking.
No danger.
Half the time I can't tell my own kids apart, Steven.
I have to look at their test scores.
Really?
Yes, I don't beat the wrong one with the violin rock.
Wait, what?
See, here's my point.
If the World Cup, the stupid cow of the Swedes can't even tell South Korea's most famous successful soccer players when it comes to the Chinaman running your local bodegas, you don't got a snowball's chance in hell, Steven.
I'm just very uncomfortable with all of this.
I don't think that this is going very well.
Oh, you whites are so uptight.
It's just a joke.
You squirm like little white girl.
Why are you so uncomfortable?
What you're expressing here, frankly, it sounds a little racist.
Even for this show, I would say, Oh, it's racist.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't know it was racist, but let me tell you.
Did it work?
Did it work?
It actually does seem to have worked, according to the article.
Oh dear!
So racist!
It worked!
Also, I'm not even the coach.
What's that?
Nothing, nothing.
Pointing is racist at work.
No, no, that can't be the lesson here.
You're going to have to go.
I have to prepare for Ladies World Cup and dress Kim Young-sun like a girl.
What?
Bye Stephen.
South Korean soccer coach Shin Tae-yong.
No, no more, no more.
I hope he finds one.
Go coach, go coach.
Okay, but you know what?
He opened the door for me.
I felt I had to pull back.
Now we can put our foot on the gas.
Here we go.
Here's the thing.
If it is an actual strategy, For the South Korean soccer coach to take the most famous South Koreans on Earth, by the way.
If a South Korean actor is famous, he's only famous in South Korea.
A South Korean soccer player is probably the closest thing to an international celebrity that exists from South Korea, right?
Probably, yeah.
Unless you work for Samsung.
So the most famous South Koreans on Earth, all they had to do was switch the numbers.
And their chief opposition, the Swedes, watching them practice, could not tell the difference!
That was all it took!
Was a jersey swap, and you know they didn't even need to change sizes!
There was no tailoring going on!
Not even a little bit.
One size fits every Asian.
He really does kick the door open.
People are going to get mad, but here's the truth.
I think we need to delineate between Racism, which is hate, which is believing that someone is inferior because of their race, and this faux colorblindness, acting as though it's somehow virtuous to not acknowledge the differences between races.
Doesn't mean we make up!
Differences between you.
What?
I'm trying to think of how to tread.
I'm trying to pick my words carefully, but I'm not.
So what I was going to say is we actually covered this on Morning Grinders, may it rest in peace.
There was an F to a cell phone.
They were doing the facial recognition feature for the iPhone.
Yeah.
And there was two Asian ladies and it couldn't decipher.
One lady was able to open it every time.
They took it back three times.
Right.
It's scientific proof.
Well, you know, it's already documented, actually, that most people have difficulty differentiating faces from other races.
And it's not just white people.
It's called other race or the cross-race effect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's an actual psychological... They've studied this pretty... I think you brought up the overlay, right?
Yeah.
It's from Psychology Today.
But that'll be turned into hate speech tomorrow.
Well, basically, no matter what race you're talking about, if you're a member of one race, you'll have an easier job deciding who looks different, right?
But yeah, that's the same for Asians and Blacks and everyone, and pretty much it also said in one of the studies that it has nothing to do with racism or preconceived notions.
I think that's a speech.
So, by the way, in studies on the cross-race effect, some have noted that participants had the most difficulty telling surprised Asian faces apart.
So the quote is, in particular, the most mistakes happen to take in the face of a male Chinese 68%, Indian 58%, female Indian, and then female Chinese.
That's a walk-away win.
Here's the honest trend.
There's just very little variance between people within those races.
It's just a fact.
Physical appearance is very little variance.
Everyone here, right, there's a foot of height difference between you and Sven Computer, almost.
Uh, and then there's different eye colors, different hair on all, everyone here.
Different facial hair abilities.
Different body types.
I can't do none.
Different skin tone.
You can't go in the sun.
Nope.
I can.
Sven Computer probably can't just because Angela Merkel won't allow him to.
I'm not saying all Asians look alike, but there is statistically less variation.
And by the way, you can also say the same thing, not just about Asians.
This is, again, why it's so important.
This isn't racism.
As the study said, it's not about hate.
It's about recognizing that people of different races look different.
You can say the same thing about Icelandic people right now.
Picture an Icelandic person in your head, okay?
What do you think?
Probably taller, more fair-skinned, blonde hair.
When you think of a Viking, think of someone from a Scandinavian country.
More likely to look similar?
Probably a socialist, right?
It's Vince thinking of the master race over here.
Easy.
Same thing if you picture a black person right now on your head.
You're probably picturing someone.
Are there black people with blue eyes?
Yes, absolutely.
You have the Hodge twins.
But most of them have black hair, brown eyes, dark skin, you know.
More proclivities, sickle cell.
That's the thing.
Disproportional rates.
Racist.
I love hearing that from a German.
They're also cooler, by the way.
Yeah, they're very much cooler.
And this is something I think that's important.
Is that racist to note that?
The story was so funny to me because when the rubber hit the road, the South Korean soccer coach They don't care at all about race at that point.
Not at all.
It's like the parent trap, but with a whole race.
Well, that's the thing, too.
Think of it like cultural appropriation.
Mexicans are the first ones to sell street tacos and sombreros.
Yeah, I know.
They're the first ones to make money off of it and be like, yep, this is what we do.
This is the Mexican.
They're at least offended by it.
My mother is French-Canadian, God bless her, and she didn't encounter many black people.
And I remember she walked up one time to someone and said, hey you did a great job, loved you playing the piano.
Well you know actually this church, you know the church was the church we both used to go to.
And here's the thing, it was a different guy and it was a different black guy.
My mom, that's a good example, she went up to compliment him and they were the same height, same build, same hair color, same eye color, and that day they were both wearing a maroon sweater.
I know she's going to be mad at me for telling this story, but come on, I couldn't blame her!
It's a compliment.
She didn't say, hey, you're the guy who stole my radio.
No, exactly.
This is not hateful.
You want to see how much cultures care about this kind of stuff?
Watch the World Cup.
I'm sorry I have to work this in.
The Egyptian fans were wearing what he is wearing, what Nage Jared's wearing.
They were wearing that.
Yeah.
They don't care!
Really?
I swear to you, there were some that had not the whole thing.
They were wearing the Yule Brenner?
They were wearing the headdress kind of thing.
I swear to you.
Look it up.
You'll have to watch soccer for it, though.
I don't believe you.
Come on.
I think you're lying.
I think you're being racist.
I don't participate in soccer.
You should.
No, I don't think it's racist.
The whole world is.
Case in point is this, exactly.
It's racist.
It's racist because of the South Korean soccer team.
This is one thing I think people have been made so afraid of having, not even necessarily of having opinions, but also of observing statistical realities.
Listen, these are the same people, by the way, who are offended if you say, On average, Asian people have higher IQs.
More of them get into college in the United States.
It's not even close.
They go, how could you say that?
By the way, we have to have an op.
We have to have a reverse quota for Asians in college.
That's a thing.
We can only take so many.
And it actually exists because of far left policy.
Right?
They get upset about that.
But then when a South Korean soccer coach does the old switcheroo, we say, hey, you can only do that because You know, they all have black hair, brown eyes, and oval faces.
All of a sudden, it's a thing.
No, we're going to say it.
We're totally fine with it.
And by the way, go watch the documentary.
We're going to have Ben Shapiro.
Go watch the documentary, Too Funny to Fail.
And there's a funny sketch in that where Stephen Colbert, Steve Carell, Dana Carvey, Robert Schmeichel, they were all talking about this.
And there's people in the crowd who were kind of these stereotypes.
One was a Saudi person.
I think one was Asian.
And Steve Carell said, today it would be career-endingly racist.
But back then, it was OK.
It was a joke.
And it wasn't at all meant to be mean-spirited, and I watched it, and maybe we'll talk about this with Anthony Camille, I was thinking, my gosh, you absolute pansy.
The fact that you consider that racist, you consider that off-limits for jokes, what is comedy going to be in five years from now, Mr. Colbert?
I can't get my head around it.
So, thank you, South Korea, for swapping the jerseys and letting this joke go on a little longer.
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When our next guest was in Egypt land, let my Shapiro go.
I think you can guess who it is.
You know his show.
You love his show at The Daily Wire.
At Ben Shapiro, as long as they allow him.
And apparently he's talking to someone else who's not me right now, but that's just Ben.
Yeah, I can't hear you, dude.
I mean, it's just, there we go.
There you go.
You can hear me?
Gotta pipe in the volume louder.
There you go.
How are you, Mr. Shapiro?
Well, I'm good.
I mean, I have to tell you, I'm a little uncomfortable.
Your prom dress is not my, my culture is not your prom dress, my friend.
No, it's not your culture, it's Egypt's culture.
You appropriated the Jews, the Jews were appropriated by Egypt, and now we're appropriating it from Egypt so that we give it back to you, the Jews!
Didn't see the Bane reference.
Bane Moses, apparently.
He was effectively the original Bane.
He liberated the Jews.
And then they complained in the desert when they had manna.
Spent my life in darkness.
I was raised on manna!
Fueled by it!
Alright, Ben, we were just talking about this before with a timeline, and I know I've been following you as well with this immigration fiasco this week as far as the media and its handling of it.
Here's the deal, like we talked about, Donald Trump makes some mistakes, but do people think that we can't Google this and see which policy this was, when it was signed, how it's being enforced?
Explain for people who don't believe me, because I don't have that much credibility today, the timeline.
So the timeline is that in 1997, the Clinton administration signed an agreement called the Flores Agreement with a bunch of advocates for illegal immigrants.
And the Flores Agreement, the settlement agreement, basically suggested that unaccompanied minors who come to the southern border could not be held in custody for longer than 20 days.
Right.
In 2014-2015, there's this big wave of migrants that comes up To the border with kids, as parents with kids.
And the Obama administration decides they want to hold the parents and the kids there together.
And they actually called it a deterrence at the time.
Jay Johnson, who is the head of DHS, he said at the time this is a deterrent policy designed to keep people from coming to the United States.
There's a lawsuit filed against that policy of keeping the children with the parents together in detention.
On the basis of the Flores settlement, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rules that if you arrest the parents, you cannot keep the kids in custody longer than 20 days.
The kids have to be released out of custody.
They cannot be held with the parents.
So Trump comes along and he says, listen, we're not going to just catch and release these people anymore.
So what Obama did in response was he basically said, OK, we're not going to arrest anyone.
People are going to come across the border with their kids.
We're just going to hold them for a second, then we'll release them, and then we will trust them to come back.
Well, this resulted in a very high rate of people not showing up for court, as you would imagine.
Something like four in ten people not showing up for court.
They just disappear into the interior.
Yeah, I know.
It's like Los Angeles traffic tickets, only with felonies.
That's exactly right.
So, in 2017-2018, the Trump administration makes clear they are now going to put into place The no-tolerance policy, the zero-tolerance policy, where everybody who comes across the border illegally will now be prosecuted as an illegal immigrant.
If you want to apply for asylum, you go to a point of entry, no problem.
You want to try and immigrate legally, you go to a point of entry, no problem.
You try to cross the border where there is no border patrol, and they will arrest you and they will charge you criminally.
What that means is that thanks to that reenactment of the Flores Settlement under 2016 Ninth Circuit law, Once you arrest the parents, you cannot keep the kids in custody with the parents.
They must be separated by policy.
So it wasn't that Trump was like, you know what?
Let's grab these families and then separate out the kids because I hate children.
They're the worst.
And I want to murder them.
No, what it really was- Specifically brown children.
Specifically brown children, as we've been told.
Exactly.
When, when it's just like the Nazis.
Instead, what it really was, was it was going to be President Trump arresting everyone who comes across the border.
And if the natural after effect of that is the kids can't be held in custody, then they're separated for a given period of time.
Until they are deported as a family.
If they apply for asylum, that time is a little bit longer.
And if they don't apply for asylum, then the court process moves pretty quickly for deportation.
The kids get deported alongside the parents.
The media instead proclaim, this is Japanese internment, this is Nazi policy, it's brand new.
Now, the way that you know this was absolute crap, the way that you know this was absolute crap is not only because the Obama administration did it, but also because when the Trump administration does it, Then the suggestion is if they separate the families, this is the worst thing ever, right?
You got Rachel Maddow weeping openly on television.
Yeah.
But if they bring the families back together in detention, then the suggestion is that this is inhumane.
So if you separate the families, it's inhumane and Nazi-esque.
If you bring the families together, it's like the Japanese internment camps.
Right.
Which is when I ask myself, what would Kevin Spacey do?
I'd probably just enter the cages.
Here's the thing.
I just said all of the things that Ben Shapiro said in the earlier segment.
I just wanted to make sure that you heard it from someone who people believed.
Source people trust.
Source people knows your trust.
No, that's exactly right.
And this is a good example of where I've talked about this, where we do the Change My Mind.
A lot of people go, well, I didn't like this one because you're usually civil.
No, I'm not going to be civil based on a lie.
And when we talked about Build the Wall, people started talking about dreamers.
People started talking about anchormen.
What about the kids who were here?
I go, okay, everyone obviously is compassionate.
But you don't want to deport felons.
You want open borders.
So before we get that far down the trail to try and find common ground... Not Ben, by the way.
I'm talking about the people at Change My Mind.
Before we try and act as though we can find common ground on what to do with children, let's figure out what we do with the bulk of illegal immigration.
And there is no common ground.
And that's what you see right now.
It's appeasing crocodiles.
Donald Trump separates them.
He's a monster.
Puts them back together.
He's a monster.
The only solution is, again, where we have no common ground.
Open borders completely.
Now, I will say that the Trump administration did botch the rollout of this policy in magnificent fashion, as per our usual arrangement.
The Trump administration has a policy, and the policy is perfectly defensible on the merits, and instead of just rolling out the policy saying, listen, we have a zero-tolerance policy, we'd prefer to change the law so kids can stay with their parents in detention facilities, Before they are removed en masse.
Instead of doing that, he has a bunch of people tried out there to say that he wants to use the separation of the children as a deterrent in and of itself, which is idiotic.
And then say, well, we didn't really mean that.
What we really meant is we like to keep everybody together.
And then say, but we can't keep everybody together because the legislature has to solve that, which is correct.
But we, the executive branch, can't just sign an executive order getting rid of this.
And then after about a week of blowback, say, well, you know, we'll sign an executive order and we'll
sort of get rid of it and we'll sort of not get rid of it.
Therefore undercutting the entire legal basis for what you've been claiming for two weeks and making you look malicious
and stupid.
Like there's no reason that it had to be rolled out this way.
It's the worst rollout of any policy that they've had since the travel ban.
And again, there is there's no rationale for it because again, it is perfectly defensible on the legal merits, you
know, as a lawyer on the legal merits.
This is a perfectly defensible policy.
It is just not defensible to switch in time all the time.
I forgot that you were a lawyer.
I thought you were touring with the Russian Opera playing violin for a while.
But then I remember you were a lawyer.
You were my lawyer!
That's right.
I was your lawyer.
I was the ultimate Jew's lawyer.
It's amazing.
No, I'm uncomfortable.
I feel like, I don't know, I don't know what's going on here.
But one thing I've definitely noticed with you, you find yourself defending the policies of the Trump administration more and more, while of course, listen, the PR debacle.
So here's the deal, when we talked about this, there are the polls as well, where people don't support, well, until he signed the executive order, people did not support the separation of families.
But people over, well, a plurality of people, I think it was 46 to 37, you probably remember the stat from earlier this week, do support strict immigration laws and enforcement of borders.
So that shows you there's a disconnect between what Americans want and what they perceive is happening according to the media.
And yes, Donald Trump gives them a little bit of a gift.
That being said, you can't use it, and this is what the left is doing, taking this debacle and using it to argue for the fact that, well, the laws haven't been enforced, therefore it's a human right to be in the United States of America.
Yeah, exactly right.
And again, the tell is pretty obvious here.
Ted Cruz says, OK, well, here's a fix.
And Chuck Schumer, who five seconds ago was saying this is Japanese interment in Nazism, is saying, well, you know, we're not going to work with you on that fix.
We prefer to hold Trump's feet to the fire.
I was like, well, either it's Nazism and you should try to stop it or it's not Nazism and you're just lying about it.
And it turns out that it's the second.
And of course, now that the Trump administration has signed this executive order, which, by the way, is legally vacuous.
I mean, it really is an empty executive order.
It either reinstitutes catch-and-release, or it doesn't change policy at all from what the Trump administration was already doing.
It just kind of puts a nicer face on it.
But like you're saying, that's kind of what's needed right now.
That is what's needed, is a nicer face on it, because something needs to be done.
I disagree with the executive order to the extent that I think it's foolish, because he's not going to win any points with people who hate him.
They're just going to suggest that he is an inhumane monster.
And I also think that it's not operative.
It's just legally not operative.
What he should have done is he should have said, here's a piece of draft legislation I came up with
with Ted Cruz and whomever else is gonna propose this.
If Democrats don't support it, it's because they obviously don't want to fix the problem.
Right, exactly.
That I think would have been a better PR tactic as opposed to saying,
it's too weak. And it is putting a nice face on it, is what I'm saying,
because you know the Democrats wouldn't get behind it.
Either way, you're putting a nice face on something that has to be done.
That would have been a more effective way to do it.
Right.
I just don't think that the nice face is going to succeed, because you're going to have Samantha Bee out there immediately suggesting that the executive order is now about ripping children away from freedom and putting them in jail.
Right?
This is what she did on her Exscribble show last night.
She officially won.
You know, I've had this running tally for years, this four-way running gun battle for the least funny human being in America.
And it was always between Samantha Bee, Trevor Noah, Lena Dunham, and Amy Schumer.
And in the last several weeks, I mean, Samantha Bee is like secretariat.
She is just bolted away from the pack.
It is astonishing.
Yeah, no, exactly.
If you could combine her with the face of Sarah Jessica Parker, she would be secretariat.
I think you're mostly correct here.
Like I said, I think either way there needs to be a band-aid put on as far as the PR issue.
That's what I'm talking about.
The Americans perceive... Most Americans want enforcement of the law.
That was one thing we noticed that changed my mind where we did the build the wall.
People come up and said, Yeah, they agreed with everything except they said, I think a wall is mean.
And they go, a wall's not going to do anything.
We go, hold on a second.
What if it were to do something?
It's a piece of the puzzle.
Americans are definitely tired of nothing being done with illegal immigration.
And politicians are using this for football right now.
So it's a quagmire.
It's absolutely a quagmire.
But, you know, it took our jobs.
Let me ask you.
This is why I've never been a fan of the whole idea of comprehensive immigration control and comprehensive immigration bills and all this nonsense.
Because if you take each one of these policies in a vacuum, people know what the right thing to do is.
If you just say, a wall alone, people are like, yeah, makes perfect sense.
If you say, okay, we got to enforce the border, people are like, makes perfect sense.
If you say, families should stay together, people say, makes perfect sense.
And then you wrap it all up into one giant piece of crappy legislation and pass it, and then none of it makes any sense anymore.
Right, that's exactly right.
Oh, we had a guy who said they should have x-ray lasers at the borders with people with tags.
And I was like, you want to tag and bag illegal immigrants?
Use your McDonald's taxes for that.
Yes!
I would say it was uploaded online.
Hey, so we were talking about this not too long ago, and I know you mentioned this, Tommy Robinson, who's been on the show quite a bit.
You said that you might have had a misimpression of him a little bit, and obviously it's gotten worse since you've talked about him, now that he's been moved to another jail.
Yeah, I corrected it on my show as well.
So my original impression of him when I first talked about him, is I use the descriptor far-right, which always seemed to be somewhere between alt-right and not quite alt-right.
And I shouldn't have known better than that, obviously, because there are so many people on the left who will call anyone alt-right.
I'd seen some of Zolder's quotes as well, right?
There were some of Zolder's quotes after the 7-7 London subway bombings, where he sort of impugned all Muslims as being responsible for that.
I looked at that and I said, well, that's pretty radical stuff, obviously.
He's apologized for that.
He's moved away from that.
And so I did read on air a piece by, I'm trying to remember who it was, Douglas Murray.
Uh, about Tommy Robinson, sort of his background, and it gave me a fuller picture of who Tommy Robinson is.
A guy who certainly has his troubles, but I think in many ways is trying to do the right thing.
So, I wanted to be a little more accurate than my original depiction of him, which was kind of cursory and using descriptors that are too vague.
Well, I appreciate that, Ben.
I think that goes a long way, because we've done that too on this show, where this is the difference with what we do.
People can't really go after our sponsors or get us fired, but it also means that we have to have a system of self-accounting.
Kind of like hockey.
We have to be our own enforcers.
And especially now with what you see what's happening with Tommy.
Tommy's been a good friend of the show, and he's a self-professed Zionist as well.
So I know a lot of people have labeled him an alt-right Nazi.
Whenever I see that, I go, well, hold on a second.
Okay.
Maybe he's alt, but is he a Nazi?
And I go, wait, hold on a second.
He's a huge supporter of Israel.
He's not doing it very well.
No, he's not doing it very well.
But someone who's doing it better is probably Chuck Schumer.
If he believes this is like Auschwitz, imagine that.
Well, we could close Auschwitz, but let's use it as leverage.
That's what's going on now.
It really does belittle the history of the Holocaust when all of this is compared to
the Holocaust and then they, well, effectively...
Everything is stupid.
Apparently the only things that anyone knows in America is they once read part of a Harry Potter book and they heard of these bad people called the Nazis.
And so everything has to fit into one of these two frameworks.
Either it's a reference to Hogwarts, or if I don't like it, then it's a Nazi.
These are the only, if it's great, it's Harry Potter.
If it's bad, it's a Nazi.
So it's just, I'm so glad that our political conversations have boiled down to Harry Potter, Nazis, and Kim Kardashian's ass somehow achieving pardons for drug dealers.
I would love to see your Google search history.
This is our policy.
That's great.
Wait, they mentioned the Nazis in Harry Potter?
I don't know.
I mean, are there Nazis?
It would make the whole thing much more threatening.
I mean, one of the big problems with Harry Potter is how competent is Voldemort if he can't even take over a high school?
Yeah, I know.
He's really having a rough time with this high school.
Exactly.
You're telling me he's the worst character in this entire universe and he can't take over a high school.
He'd probably have more success with a paneled van labeled Free Puppies.
When you frame it all this way, it does sound kind of silly.
It does sound kind of silly.
He's not a formidable foe, now that I think about it.
You just had low aspirations, that's all.
One thing I will say about Harry Potter, my wife actually, because I was like, this is unwatchable.
I can't watch this.
And I was like, I know how it ends, because Harry Potter, and she lied to me.
And she told me that Neville, what his name is, Long, Neville, I don't know, Neville Longbottom?
Longbutt?
I don't know.
But she's like, he's the real Harry Potter!
Ha ha ha!
So now I have to find out how they tie this all together.
Harry Potter's not, and I was like, really?
And I watched, it turns out she lied!
And I watched the whole series!
Wow.
I'm having an annulment.
You're a loving husband.
I mean, that's pretty brutal right there.
All of them, Ben.
That's a hell of a prank.
I hope you had a hell of a piss, Arnold!
And then after that, I took her to Harry Potter World, and I got violently ill.
So, not the biggest fan.
That's why I do wonder... I don't remember the Nazis being mentioned in the films, but again, I'm not one of those people with Harry Potter who says, the books were better, because...
I don't hate myself.
Ben, so you are at Daily Wire, and of course you have a show coming up, if I'm not mistaken, in Dallas on August 15th, Ben Shapiro Live.
Tickets are available at LiveNation.com, right?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And you can go over to dailywire.com slash events as well if you want to check out the tickets there.
So yeah, we're almost sold out, and it should be a blast.
We've got about 3,000 people who are showing up.
Nice.
And we're looking forward to it.
We're doing one in Dallas.
We're doing one in Phoenix, I think, the next night.
So our first live podcast, our first live show.
So that should be fun.
Oh, so you're doing like what we did at SMU.
You're taking the Ben Shapiro—I didn't know you were taking the Ben Shapiro show on the road.
I thought you were doing just a speaking engagement, but it's the show live.
Yeah, no, it's not like a formal speech.
It's going to be me kind of riffing, and then we'll do Q&A for a while.
Man, that'll be fun.
Well, I will tell you too, when we did it at SMU, it was, you know, same size and the protesters were, it was paltry and it wasn't even their signs.
So they're not very invigorated in Dallas.
I think you'll be mostly fine.
I'm definitely, I'm definitely looking forward to it.
So yeah, I'll see you there.
I'll stop by or I'll just say I'll stop by right now on your show and I actually won't stop by and I'll just ignore you when I come.
Yeah, that's absolutely fine.
And then I'll just find some angry, angry leftist in Austin and tweet your address and I'll make sure to get them through security.
And then I'll have Sven Computer, like, storming the stage for me.
Right before you deported.
Yes, haven't you heard?
We're just as bad as the left.
Okay, that is the Ben Shapiro show at Daily Wire.
Thank you, Ben, very much.
I appreciate it, brother.
You look like you're working too much.
Get some rest.
Hard to see, my friend.
Great day in America.
Hopper here.
I just want to tell you how touched I've been.
And so too for all the people who joined my club, I've been getting more cheeses and blueberries
and I just hope that I can earn all the cheeses and blueberries and I don't know why I have
them but...
Somewhere in my youth or childhood I must have done something good...
Oh blueberry!
This is why we're not on television.
Also, we don't want to.
Our next guest, I'm very happy to have him back.
It's been a while.
I thought he was cross with us.
See?
I did.
Because most people are, and also apparently I use terms from the 1930s that are entirely unnecessary.
Yeah, we'll arbitrate that later.
Dumpster fire!
I love being back.
I haven't seen you in a while.
kids are using. But you know him at the Kumiya Show on Twitter. See, whenever you have several
plugs people know exactly who it is already. And of course at Compound Media, the Anthony
Kumiya Show. Kumiya, Kumiya Show. I always get the stuff wrong. Sorry, I was saying it
wrong. It's fine. Anthony Kumiya, thanks for being back, sir. Love being back. I haven't
seen you in a while. No, we don't have a beef. We're not crossed with each other. Nothing
It's just, yeah, running these kind of, you know this, like running a show and a network thing in this day and age is a full-time job.
Yes, well you look good though, you got the haircut now and you look younger.
Yeah, a little civilized.
I figured I had to do it.
I ask people to contribute money to me for HD video.
You don't want it to be too gruesome for them, so I figured I better clean up a little bit.
You're not making the move to 4K yet.
No, no, no.
We won't be doing that.
I want that Vaseline lens like the women on old Star Trek episodes used to get.
Yeah, we're Cammy Diaz's pockmarks hideout, so that way we never know.
Exactly, yes!
There were a couple people who you see in HD for the first- Cameron Diaz was the first one where I saw and I said, oh, that's not the woman who had a crush on on the mask when I was young.
Same one.
No, not at all.
Yeah, bad skin and facial hair really show up in 4K.
It's crazy.
And you know, actually, my father makes an audible sound.
Every time Maggie Gyllenhaal is on the screen at a movie theater, he makes sure to go... so the people around him can hear her go...
Which is so unfortunate, because her brother is so gorgeous, even as a straight man.
Like, Jake Gyllenhaal.
I noticed that's a trend.
I very rarely see, like, a really chocked man.
The sister's almost always kind of butch-looking.
Yeah.
Kind of like, looks like the man.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, it probably worked that way, where the guy gets a little bit of that femme hormone in the womb, and the girl has to, you know, take the butch, more butch form.
Replace Katie Holmes.
Right.
Or, like Billy Joel, you marry Christie Brinkley, you have a child and she looks like you.
Ugh.
Shame.
Every time I see it.
Alright, Anthony, so I know you have some strong opinions on what's been going on.
We just talked about this, what's been going on with immigration and ripping babies from their mother's arms and Peter Fonda.
So much has happened this week.
First off, is that a real cigarette holder or is that a prank cigarette holder?
Well, it is a cigarette holder.
I imitate my father with it.
My father, it has to go like this.
Son of a bitch, Anthony.
Simple common sense.
And it puts me back there and tames me down a bit.
Yeah, and just make sure you don't hug anyone else for a couple of weeks and create a conflict.
That's right.
We'd do a little bit better.
So what's your read on this whole thing this week?
We just talked about how obviously these compounds existed with Obama, and I know you're pretty media savvy.
It's so, uh, it's politically motivated.
It's, uh, I can't.
I can't believe anybody watches anyone on the left talk about this and actually goes, yeah, yeah, they do care.
They care about the children.
Because it's so obvious when they use words like torn, ripped from their parents' arms.
Yes.
No one's being like, I haven't seen one video of give me that kid.
You want you like I haven't seen one video like that.
But it's just Kevin Spacey.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, I haven't seen one of those.
All I've seen are kids in new sneakers.
I think it's a version of America they settle for.
where there's arts and crafts and PlayStation and food, plenty of food.
And then it's of course the liberals have to take it to that umpteenth level.
It looks like Auschwitz filtering in cages.
I think it's a version of America they settle for. I think they're okay with it.
Yeah.
And it's getting very difficult for people on the left to lie to people because we have such availability to actually see and feel things.
Like when they talk about the tax cuts being a terrible thing.
And Pelosi will be like, oh, it's crumbs and it's a bad thing.
And then somebody actually gets their paycheck and goes, wait, there's more money in here.
How much does someone have to lie to you for you to go, yeah, and that's bad, more, more of my money.
Like it's getting very difficult for them to lie.
So when they say children in cages and you see these bunks and food and arts and crafts and things, you really start going, is that like Auschwitz?
Is that really like a concentration Nazi death camp?
They have a lot of empanadas at Auschwitz.
That's because we totally overblown the whole Auschwitz thing.
Yeah.
History's a lie.
They just don't know that we can see it, we understand what's going on, and no matter what they say, and it's politically motivated, it is just to get Trump out, or in trouble, or impeached.
Because what we're seeing now, there's so many tweets today that I've just been laughing at.
Well, he signed some order so families could be together, but now families are incarcerated together?
They literally want, Oh, welcome, Matt!
Go, come on in!
Come on in, everyone!
I know, I know.
Feel free, make yourselves at home!
And that's the thing, I'm through trying to find common ground when they want open borders.
It's like, well, listen, you don't even believe in deporting felons, so let's not talk about babies and dreamers, okay?
They want our border to look like the red carpet at the Chinese theater.
Yes, like Thomas Chinese, with just as many pedophiles.
You know, one thing I will say, just right now when I just heard you say this, so you just said something, About it looking, you know, camp-like.
And we've talked about that.
And here's one thing that it points out to me.
The right has played along with us, unfortunately, because the left plays in the outrage string.
And the right acts like they don't kowtow, but they often do.
Like, Laura Ingraham got into a bunch of trouble for saying something very similar to what you just said.
People went after her sponsors.
But we've done that on this show, and you can say it.
What are they going to do?
Like Walther Firearms, they're not going to drop us.
They knew the show when they signed up that we're able now to just say, no, we're not playing along.
But even the old right guard sometimes bends to it.
And that's why I think we lost for so long.
Yeah, it is difficult.
And thank God there are a few platforms out there where people could actually speak for me to be fired.
This is how difficult it is for me to be fired from here.
I have to get in a time machine.
Go like five minutes into the future.
Come in and fire myself.
It's the only way it could be done.
I can't be fired.
So I love it.
I could say whatever I want.
But there's so many people that have to tiptoe and walk on those eggshells.
Less, you know, we've seen it.
People get Exiled from the planet at this point.
Right.
Unless, of course, you're Peter Fonda.
Then Sony Pictures just keeps your film and you just go along your merry way after... Wait, he has a film?
Yeah, he has a film coming out.
Oh.
Film is coming out.
It's still greenlit.
Where's the outrage?
Where is that outrage that tosses him aside, cancels the film?
We've seen this happen with Roseanne, her show is cancelled, for saying something that was a lot easier to handle than, Barron Trump should be put in a cage with pedophiles, like Peter Phan said.
When you say it out loud like that, it almost sounds off-putting.
You know, it almost does.
Read it in a transcript, it's a lot easier.
Yeah, exactly.
When you say it out loud like that, it almost seems in poor taste.
Here's the thing, I'm not outraged by it at all.
I really couldn't care less.
It's just that they, you know, this is one thing when the week before that, or this same week, people were outraged that we sent Sven Computer into an LGBTQAIP panel to crash it, and they're like, you're just as bad as the left.
I'm still laughing.
I'm like, wait, hold on, just as bad?
We sent him into a panel of professionally unemployed intersexers.
He teased them.
He left with security.
He didn't say he wants a kid of a sitting president to be raped by a pedophile.
Liberals, let's just give up past anything they deem as righteous anger.
Same thing that happened with Samantha Bee.
She kind of half-assed apologized because she didn't want to really back down from her statements.
It was deserved.
When I hear, well, they're all the same.
It's the biggest cop-out.
Both sides are the same.
It's like, no, they're not.
The left is dangerous.
They're dangerous.
If you do something or say something that doesn't go along with their line and agenda, you can lose your job, your reputation, your career, everything you've worked for, and it's gone.
When you do something that the right doesn't like, wow, you're open to lively debate.
Yes.
Like there's none of these, and I don't even call them boycotts, it's extortion.
When you see someone like this David Hogg piece of crap and he goes and he's trying to get sponsors pulled from...
Laura Ingraham's show, that's not a boycott.
They go, let the marketplace decide.
If you go to sponsors and threaten them, lest they pull their ads from a show, that's not a boycott.
A boycott is when you stop watching something, the ratings go down, and the sponsors go, well, we're not going to pay for a low-rated show, so let's pull the sponsors.
You can't eliminate the boycott.
Yes.
And just threaten the sponsors like the mafia.
It's like a Sopranos episode.
Yeah.
They're walking into businesses, shaking them down, or they get beaten.
Yeah.
Well, good contrast there.
We did a whole segment on this show celebrating that he was 18 and we could call him a dick.
And we just ran through the top 10 insults to David Hogg.
Wow.
Awesome.
And I think the number one rater was he looked like Frankie Minaj had sex with a soybean.
Guess what?
No one's fired us!
Nope.
We're still here!
You never got us down, Hogg!
That moves me to the realm of comedy.
We have to get going.
It's been too long.
I have to have you back much sooner.
Yes.
When I turn into Netflix and it suggests stand-up specials, I immediately skip it.
I don't know if you saw this.
I can't remember the name.
Maybe someone can tweet me at Ask Crowder and help me out, because now I can't find it.
But it was the front, you know, the display image on Netflix, you know, on the app.
And it was this Australian lesbian fat comedian.
And it was The whole thing is she sits there and she tells one joke and then she goes, but I have to retire from comedy because my story needs to be told.
And self-deprecation is not humility, it's humiliation.
And then it flashes across the screen, New York Times says, a comedy special taking aim at comedy.
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, why is this a good thing?
The whole point to being a good comedian is dealing with pain through humor, but now there's like, it's not funny.
And it's filed under comedy specials!
Anthony, you're a comedy savant, as Nick DiPaolo put it.
What do you do?
I agree wholeheartedly, by the way.
Patton Oswalt just put a tweet out last night about, as comedian, we have a duty to talk about things that, we can't just do airplane jokes anymore.
Oh, so the comedians, the ones that were supposed to be irreverent, against the system, make people uncomfortable, they're the ones now that are supposed to be the voice of reason?
You chubby little douche.
I cannot stand this guy.
What'd you say?
I'm still stuck on duty.
Yeah, exactly!
That would have been better as a comedian!
And I hate watch Netflix, not the specials, I scroll through the beginning, like the It's kind of like a teaser, but it's automatic.
Yes, a teaser, and it's got text on the bottom.
And it's like, a hilarious take on love, political correctness, and her job.
And I cringe at just the text.
And I've done that for hours, like a psychopath.
That was this one.
It says she retires from comedy and takes on toxic culture.
What a Netflix ad.
The real rape culture.
Boy, that's just like watching Eddie Murphy delirious.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I know you know that Patton Oswalt is funny.
He's been funny.
Yes, yes.
That's why it's so disappointing.
It's like when Mike Myers did the Love Guru.
Is it Mike Myers or Michael Myers?
Which one's the Halloween killer?
Michael Myers.
Michael Myers is Halloween killer.
I always get them confused.
When he did the Love Guru, it was so bad, it forced me to go back and go, hold on a second.
Was Austin Powers ever funny?
Because I thought it was funny growing up.
It's kind of like Ninja Turtles.
Then you realize Ninja Turtles was all bad.
But this isn't through bad humor, it's just they've gotten so political, you're going, wait a second.
Was this person ever funny?
And it forces you to revisit their catalog, and that's not how it should be!
No, I really don't like when somebody's political affiliation or philosophy gets me to the point where I don't like them as a performer anymore.
I try not to do that, but when you're saying that you're gonna Like, stop doing what you do comedically to make it more relevant for politics and the time and to help the children at the border and stuff.
Then I can't bother.
I can't bother with you anymore.
I know.
It really is tough.
There really are only a handful now.
You got, I mean, Nick DiPaolo, Bill Burr is still unbelievably funny.
Yeah, absolutely.
Who else would you put on your list now who you really watch regularly?
I know.
It's tough.
Jim Norton.
I love Jimmy.
Yeah, but Nick DiPaolo, just the other day at Levity Live in New York, got punched in the eye by a little woman, this woman in Birkenstocks and, you know, and punched him right in the face.
He's got a big black eye and everything because she didn't like his brand of humor.
But that's the liberal, tolerant Lev.
Oh, we have to have him on.
He's gonna hear about this and be like, Oh, get Nick.
He's great.
Crowder, I hear you, uh, I hear you, uh, you f***ing laughed at me getting punched in the eye.
That's great.
I want to do your program again.
Be like, hold on, Nick, Nick, Nick.
It's funny when you hear it by a lady in Birkenstocks.
Yeah, it was.
A girl in Birkenstocks and a little, you know, the vagina hat and everything.
Well, no, they can't do that anymore because not all women have vaginas.
Haven't you heard?
Yeah, yeah.
Haven't we heard that?
The insanity, the absolute insanity going on.
We think, like, I think back a year ago or even six months ago and go, it can't possibly get worse than this.
And then the mental institution throws another set of doors open and more maniacs come flying out.
I know, I know.
But, you know, as comedians, there's nothing funny here.
It's a dumpster fire!
There's nothing funny about people protesting the pussy hats because not all women have vaginas.
You couldn't possibly come up with a premise from that, says Poutinak.
No, no, no.
All right, we gotta get going, brother.
But that is, of course, The Anthony Cumia Show on Compound Media.
Did I just say it wrong again?
Son of a- No, that's perfect.
Okay, all right.
And at The Cumia Show on the Twitter.
And what's the YouTube channel as well?
Uh, I don't know.
Just look up Compound Media.
I'm all over it.
He is.
He's all over it.
He runs it and some other great shows there.
Hey, Anthony, thank you so much, brother.
We'll have you back soon.
Thank you, Steven.
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I think the leader of God's chosen people to death is going to be taken up by a little
Nope.
It won't happen by the permission of the Lord my God.
Red Sea just had its way with... Well, that's pretty much everyone, as it relates to you.
Hey, Anthony Cumia, thank you so much.
And Ben Shapiro, thank you very much.
Charlton Essin, terrible actor.
Not a fan.
That's something else we'll also get in the comments section.
I've gotten more hate for saying that I didn't think Harold Burnett was funny.
Really?
Thank anything else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can... That.
And that Hitler was a liberal socialist.
I still think so.
And Bruce Lee.
Oh my gosh, Bruce Lee!
It's confirmed!
It's confirmed.
And everything we said was true.
Which, by the way, speaking of which, we have Vos Rooten on the show.
Really?
Come on up.
Next week, and Andrew Klavan and Sebastian Gorka.
And we have a bunch of great people coming on the show.
We have some more Change My Minds coming up.
Cultural appropriation again next week.
Send in your ideas.
Cultural appropriation next week.
And I'll be doing another costume contest.
First costume contest.
Lost tonight, sorry.
And we're doing some hidden camera work here.
Pretty soon.
Some stuff that we're predicting could go... You have to mischief, see.
Yes.
Well, not really mischief, actually.
There's something we're really seeking to accomplish, and it's kind of dangerous.
We're not gonna lie to you.
We might come in with some black eyes here at some point.
Very soon.
And here's the thing.
I don't want to...
We usually don't tell you about this, and that's because hidden cameras can go either
way.
You never know.
If there's no story, we don't really create a story.
I remember when I used to be at other news networks, they would do that.
Make the footage work.
Yeah, make the footage work.
So you never know.
But...
Advocate.
Yeah.
You had a point, you were...
Here we go.
I fixed it and now it's bad again.
You had a point before that we were talking about during the break.
Yeah, something that's really bothering me this week is the whole Peter Fonda thing.
And I'm not mad that he, you know, there is a blatant hypocrisy that he's like, his movie is alive and well, unlike Roseanne, who is, you know, removed from society for much less, in my opinion.
Yeah.
But what's bothering?
It's not really an opinion.
Yeah, it's just kind of a fantasy.
I think saying someone looked like someone from Planet of the Apes, as far as a haircut, I think is definitively less severe than saying you hope someone's child gets raped by pedophiles.
When you say it that way, I... Yeah, I don't think it's... But I guess it's opinion.
I guess we have to hedge our bets.
It's like, allegedly, opinion.
Raped by pedophiles?
Bad haircut!
You decide!
What pisses me off is this idea of righteous anger and how the love gives a pass to people who they deem have righteous anger, which is fine.
There are instances of righteous anger, but it has to be based on truth.
And if it's not based on truth, you don't earn the righteous anger pass.
It shouldn't be conceded that moral high ground just because you scream.
No, there are places in life where righteous anger is well-warranted.
You know, if your daughter's getting beat to hell by a trainee in the Texas State Wrestling Championship... Demonetized.
Yeah, demonetized.
But, you know, that's righteous anger.
You know, the dad who wanted to beat the crap out of the Olympic coach in the trial hearing?
That's a righteous anger.
Like, okay, I get it.
Yes.
But it's not based on a lie.
It's based on truth.
And I think we kind of like to blur the lines and pretend, okay, you know, actually, Be as may, Samantha Bee had a point.
Right.
And it's also based on some framework of morality that the left despises.
That's why they despised Dirty Harry as a character.
Death Wish, right?
This is racist.
This is jingoist.
This is vigilante.
This is bad.
This is toxic masculinity.
Because they don't have a foundation.
They don't have a moral framework.
And yeah, I think that's a good point.
That said, I do think Peter Fonda had a much better apology than Samantha Bee offered.
I will give him that much.
I don't watch apologies.
He didn't really...
Yeah, I guess so.
I appreciate what Ben Shapiro said earlier about Tommy Robinson.
Like, we do that all the time on this show, and I've seen him do it before.
And I know, listen, Ben can be a little bit of a know-it-all, because usually he does know it all.
But I appreciate that, like I said, we have to kind of self-regulate with that.
So we do have to hold ourselves to a bit of a higher standard than, say, Samantha Bee or Peter Fonda.
Speaking of foundation, you know, that's a really important thing, and I'm letting the cat out of the bag here.
We pre-taped Brian Shaw this week, and again, the reason for that is because we're going to be doing some hidden camera stuff on location, and so every now and then we have to pre-tape a guest because it's just... We're doing this on a staff of very... We're doing this on a staff that's less than half of just the writers for the Dana Carvey sketch show, to give you an idea.
Go again and watch that.
And their stuff was pure sh**.
No, their stuff was, some of it was pretty bad, but some really talented people.
It's funny, actually, my dad said, do you need to watch this?
I said, what are you saying, we're going to fail?
He said, no, I'm just saying that comedians, look, they used to be these great people, and I was like, that's not what I see at all.
He said, no, no, I'm saying that now they're cowardly, and they used to go up against the networks, and this is a great opportunity for a lot of us.
I said, I watch it, and I see that.
Hard work and great talent aren't enough sometimes.
But speaking of foundation, you've gained some weight here.
We talked about this with Brian Shaw.
You've put on 15 pounds-ish?
15 to 20.
And you've been lifting weights and eating more, and that's been a struggle for you.
It's been a really hard struggle, and for the first time ever, I've been really committed to consistency, and I'm seeing some results.
It's small and you have to pace yourself.
I noticed that.
It's definitely noticeable to me, and several people have talked about it.
Several people in the comments section, actually.
Now watch, I'm going to call you a fat son of a bitch.
Speaking of foundation, that's an important thing.
What are you doing to put on weight?
You're eating?
What am I doing?
I am eating a ridiculous amount of calories and working out three times a week.
Right.
Doing... Lifting heavy stuff.
Heavy compound lifts.
Heavy compound lifts.
And I really do have this unbelievable privilege, and it's funny that it's turned into a dirty word, but I use this term as it's meant to be used.
A privilege to interview Excellent people.
Often people who are the best at what they do, period, in the world.
So Brian Shaw is the world's strongest man, four times, I think, four or five times Arnold Strongman Classic winner, which is another competition.
So he's basically eight times.
It's disgusting how strong he is.
And one of my favorite interviews I've ever done.
And we'll have that, I think, here either next week or the week after.
And Boss Rudin, going to be next week, was a UFC champion, King of Pancrase.
And so I've had the ability, I've had the luxury, the privilege of picking some of these people's brains.
and asking them questions. That to me is what fascinates me.
I hope that it's something you enjoy as a viewer as opposed to just saying, so you eat a
lot of food, we ask those questions too.
But there are some really personal questions that I try to ask of these people because I think people
want to know. I mean, getting into the mind of someone who's the best at anything, even if it
were a soccer player, is fascinating to me. I use that term loosely in that instance.
But the foundation Brian Shaw talked about, he said, He said, listen, there's no magic bullet.
It's eating an insane amount.
I think he eats 12,000 calories a day and lifting heavy things.
Crazy.
It's the same thing for him, effectively, as it is for you.
Now, you're never going to be 6 foot 8, 440 pounds, but you're still bigger than you were before.
With a 1,000 pound deadlift.
And your squat is like 960 something.
And asking a lot of these people, this is one thing, and we get a lot of emails to this effect, hey, I want to go into either Comedy or I want to go into podcasting.
How do we do this?
And listen, there are plenty of other people who are more successful who could give you great advice as well.
But I can say this and speaking with people who are the best.
So Brian Shaw is a great example.
It just echoed what we've always heard.
It starts with a moment.
Where he said, you know what, I realized I can do this when I competed in my first.
He was a very small, 330 pounds back then.
I said, I realized that I could do it.
And I thought, OK, I can compete with the best of them.
And then it comes down to, and then it comes down to all the other stuff.
So there's a really, there's the same trend.
Same thing with Boss Rutan.
Boss Rutan started out doing karate.
He was bullied as a kid.
And then he had a few competitions.
And he's talked about that.
We've got George St-Pierre on the show, where they had a moment, that flash of genius moment, Where you realize, okay, you believe in yourself.
That you think you can do this.
And that's what I've talked about in the past.
You can go back to previous shows.
Find what you're good at.
Everyone is excellent at something.
You just need to find what it is.
In Brian Shaw's case, it's pretty clear.
It's plain to see.
It might take you a little while.
But everyone who's very successful at a high level, I've noticed on this show, the trend is there's that moment of they believe in themselves.
And that's an exciting moment.
I can say that we've had that with this show.
We're like, you know what, we can do this, and we can do this really well, and people will really enjoy this.
Remember we set out, we didn't know if we were going to make a show that anyone wanted.
So there's a moment, and that's exciting, that's a really exciting moment.
And a lot of people aren't fortunate enough to experience that.
But then, what's not so exciting is what comes after that.
And it's the same thing with every successful person you see.
It's the unsuccessful in-betweens.
It is the flash of genius moment, the I-believe-in-myself moment, which is earned, followed by long, unsexy, grueling work.
So Brian Shaw had a moment where he said, I think I could legitimately, if I do my best here, become the world's strongest man.
And then, the answer to that question is, Eating 12,000 calories a day, lifting heavy weights, monitoring my progress, resting, not once, every single day, even when I'm sick, when I travel, being disciplined, bringing the right food.
George St.
Pierre, when he was on the show, same thing.
I realized I could really do this, and then it was...
Conditioning.
It was doing neurological training.
It was doing game planning that I knew my opponents weren't doing.
It was learning how to live with my fear.
It was lifting weights.
It was fighting.
It was sparring every day, even when I was injured.
Same thing with Boss Rutan.
Same thing even if you talk with Ben Shapiro about academic achievements.
It could be anything.
It could be intellectual.
It could be physical.
But every single one of them has an answer.
Like, this is what I realized about I could do it.
And then all of this stuff.
And if you're lucky enough to have that moment where you actually believe in yourself, not the lie of self-esteem, but you believe in yourself, you find out what you're great at doing, and that's why I say that's the most important thing you can do to live a life of purpose, if you're fortunate enough to experience that, It could be really discouraging to think.
For me, I know it could be years.
It'll probably be years before I really reach some of my goals.
That's not overnight.
That's the opposite of overnight.
But here's what I started realizing.
between the start and success. It could be really discouraging to think for me
I know it could be years, probably years before I really reach some of my
goals. That's not overnight, that's the opposite of overnight. But here's what I
started realizing, the time's gonna pass anyways. Might as well have something to
show for it.
Might as well Count of Monte Cristo have a few lines on the wall to show for it!
Brian Shaw, I think, has more runner-up titles at World's Strongest Man than anyone in history, I believe.
I believe three or four times he was number two.
Eddie still, imagine that, right?
If you go, I don't get the glory.
If you haven't accepted the unsexy in-betweens, if you haven't accepted the grueling stuff that sucks between your, I can do this, and success, you're never going to achieve that success.
If he's chasing the glory, if he's chasing the fame, he's going to stop it.
His first number two, let alone his third, his fourth, and then rattled off some wins as the world's strongest freaking man.
And I use this as an example because such a great guy, we'll probably do some work on him in the future, and it's so absolute.
It's such a world's strongest man, period.
Well, do you mean he's got, nope, he's the strongest man, period.
Well, do you mean that this person is kind of the best power for, nope, he's the strongest man, period.
Okay, how did that happen?
With every single successful person I have noticed, and I've interviewed a lot of them, and it was dawning on me this week, it is a flash of genius moment, I believe in myself, which is earned, and then doing the, actually not just doing the in-betweens, but then there's a decision after that, the acceptance of this is going to suck.
The acceptance of the in-betweens, because when those glories, when that glory fades, it's a transit gloria, right?
I mean, let's watch Rushmore.
When that glory fades, you accepting the grueling work is the most important thing, because then you're gonna do it day in and day out, it's just part of your job.
It's just part of your calling.
And then it becomes a part of something that you almost enjoy.
People talk about the grind, and you have all these stupid motivational speakers on Twitter, and so, embrace the grind, man!
Go out and crush it!
But, again, they're doing it for the glory, so everyone thinks it's that beautiful snapshot.
It's not!
It sucks!
And accepting that, accepting suckiness, accepting pain, I've noticed, once you've figured out what you do well, ironically, accepting crap and pain is that first step towards success.
I wish you were more inspirational, but guess what?
If you want to be good at anything, this is going to hurt.
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