#256 STEPHEN COLBERT IS A COMMUNIST! Gavin McInnes, Dean Cain and Gary Sinise | Louder With Crowder
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Dean Cain.
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Gavin McInnes, Dean Cain, Gary Sinise.
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Question of the day, by the way.
We'll get to the trick-or-treating socialism, Donald Trump Jr.
tweet, J.K. Rowling, Stephen Colbert.
Obviously people know that you tend to get more conservative as you grow older.
And sometimes it's because you have more skin in the game.
But I want to ask you, if you're watching, we have a lot of young people in the audience.
As you've grown older, right after Halloween...
Do you find yourself caring more about merit and less about fairness?
Is that a big part of it?
I think that is for me.
I think when you get out of college and everything is about fairness, everything is about equality of outcomes, and once you've earned something unique to you, something that nobody else can earn, all of a sudden you're going, wow, this isn't just a merit.
This isn't just a trophy everybody gets.
This merit thing really means something.
You didn't do this.
Yes, you did.
You didn't do all those things.
I either make rent or I don't now.
Right.
This is weird.
Well, it's about using your own value, your own skill sets, what you bring to the table.
So do you feel that as you get older, that's a natural progression?
That has definitely been for me.
When I was a kid, I wanted everything to be fair.
Yeah.
And I progressed a little earlier because I just, you know, I was a grumpy old man at 12.
You're an old man.
What's fair changes a lot, too, because what's fair when you're younger is not the same thing, because me getting what I earned, that is fair.
That's a good point.
That is fairness.
Yeah, a meritocracy is fairness.
But as a kid, you want to look at the surface fairness.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we'll talk about that more.
In the news, four women from an Idaho credit union were forced to apologize after this photo of a woman in blackface surfaced.
The fact that Gerald laughs right away, he's like them.
I haven't seen the video.
He'd be there at the credit union like, go for it, ladies!
No one can touch you.
So I was posted to Facebook on Halloween by one of the workers at the Six Four Women who work at the P1FCU Credit Union in Lewiston, who were apparently dressed as the 1988 Olympic Jamaican bobsled team, made famous by that film.
I guess I can see that.
So that was how they tried to defend it.
People were attacking, and actually matters were made worse when the creator of the costumes clarified, we actually weren't the bobsled team, just subprime borrowers.
Oh!
It's the very first one of the show.
If you're hoping for a smoother ride?
We are in it now.
No, and the live audience is gone.
Yeah, exactly.
We wanted to aim that flare gun right at your face.
Donna Brazile, of course, we have to talk about this.
She's in the news.
This comes from Mediaite.
She's been making the top trends everywhere where she was...
She's issued a scathing report on Hillary, Debbie Wasserman, the DNC at large.
Essentially, she's just gone rogue.
She's been attempting...
Why are you laughing?
Why are you laughing?
Her whole thing is like defending Bernie.
It's like she's just feeling the burns way so late.
She doesn't realize.
It's done.
It's done, Donna.
What are the kids doing now?
Feeling the burn?
Okay.
But it's November.
I have to make my point.
Last November.
Last.
Oh, damn.
But it does burn when I pee, though.
So she's basically trying to burn the DNC to the ground.
Of course, this is actually, as we know, her second stab this week at Relevancy after quickly deleting her ill-fated and widely met with skepticism hashtag MeToo tweet.
You don't want to victim blame, but in some instances...
Friday, the Louisiana Supreme Court actually refused to hear a suspect's case.
So they claimed there was no violation of his rights occurring when he asked for, I quote, a lawyer dog, with the cops claiming he asked for a lawyer dog.
In response to the suspect claiming that his demand for a lawyer should have resulted in the immediate suspension of interrogation, Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring with the court's decision not to hear the case.
He wrote, the defendant's ambiguous and equivocal reference to a lawyer dog does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants immediate termination of the interview.
And this actually came to us from Salon, so of course there have been cries of racism right off the bat, judicial malpractice, with one opposing Disney producer actually claiming there ain't Nothing in the rule books that say golden retrievers can't practice law.
Black people do have it harder.
I will give it to them.
They do.
They can't communicate any rights.
I will say, like, I don't buy into that black, you know, black guys matter, hands up, don't shoot.
But when a guy's like, man, I want a lawyer dog.
He asked for a lawyer dog.
He asked for a lawyer dog.
He clearly swans.
Is that like a hot dog?
Wilder with a gavel.
Yeah.
If that's what I'm talking about, I get it.
I'll give you that one.
Just put a comma in there.
Lawyer, comma dog.
No, he was speaking.
I know.
That's what I mean.
Pause for a comma.
And it burns when I pee.
Turns out Osama bin Laden was a huge gamer in anime things.
Insane.
So today, the CIA publicly released nearly half a million files from his hard drive, and it revealed that he actually had a passion for things like Resident Evil, I think it was Mario, and loads of Japanese anime.
So people are really happy about that.
So weird.
It's not, when you remember Saddam Hussein, they found him, he loved The Avengers and Raisin Bran Crunch.
Oh, that's true.
I forgot about that.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
He was crazy for Raisin Bran Crunch.
They hate America.
Wait, Raisin Bran Crunch?
That's not even a thing.
Yeah, it is.
It's a totally different cereal from Raisin Bran.
Really?
Yeah.
Where have you been with the Raisin Bran Crunch?
I thought you were just making it up.
You are paying this person!
Raisin Bran Crunch is candy cereal.
Yeah, totally different.
Ah, okay.
But Osamblan apparently was also an artist himself.
As documents reveal, he was trying to get his comic series published, Taliban, Gotta Kill Them All.
Yeah.
I don't know why that one didn't take off.
That one didn't take off, and his venture into the young adult franchise even less so.
Hardcore terrorist tentacle pornography just didn't...
Japanese appreciate straightforward marketing.
There's no BSing around the titles there.
No, no, no, no.
There's a market for that, and they appreciate it, and they love them for it.
Imagine the plan in multiplayer with Osama Bin Laden and not knowing it.
I got you!
I got you!
He's in a clan.
Exactly.
Taliban number one.
I thought that was just a stupid name.
Gosh.
Yeah, I guess, well, apparently he also pirated a lot of his games, so who would have thought terrorists would also be involved with piracy?
It's like, Osama, it's not released yet.
I'm not going to pay for the game!
No!
I didn't think!
You see, I also like Pixar movies.
It just seems like those childish things for a terrorist to have.
Why would he like anime?
Like, that's ridiculous.
No, it's because the Japanese are also a deeply disturbed dark people.
There you go.
Kindred spirits.
Russian women stripped naked in front of the U.S. Embassy.
In Russia to show their support for Harvey Weinstein?
I know.
At first of all, am I reading that right?
So, these are the feminist protests.
What do they have to say?
They said, we came here to support the producer who offered women sex.
Sex is right.
Sex is cool.
We're here to say that when a man offers women sex, it is awesome.
It means you think we are beautiful and sexy, said another girl.
And this comes off, obviously, on the heels of that girl who was lifting up her skirt.
Yeah.
A feminist.
I know.
To protest groping in a Russian train station.
Their feminists are different.
Their feminists are very different from feminists in the United States.
And so to that we say, we defect.
All right, let's talk about Stephen Colbert. let's talk about Stephen Colbert.
I feel like I was on The Hunt for Red October just then.
Yeah, well, you weren't.
It's a good movie.
It's a good movie.
Don't rest easy.
We still have a course for the show to get through.
It's The Hunt for.
What?
Whoa.
Alright, you gave yourself some work there with a censor button.
There we go.
So, Donald Trump Jr.
tweeted something, J.K. Rowling retweeted it, and then Stephen Colbert decided to make it a part of his monologue because that's what entertainment is now on television.
There you go.
It is on here, but listen, soft expectations.
Let's set it up.
This is Stephen Colbert responding.
Last night, Don Jr.
tweeted a picture of his young daughter holding her candy bucket and said, I'm going to take half of her candy tonight and give it to some kid who sat at home.
It's never too early to teach her about socialism.
Yes, it's never too early to teach kids the danger of sharing.
Yeah.
Well, litany of things that are incorrect there.
The dangers of sharing.
It's the old adage, but there's nothing compassionate about sharing somebody else's stuff.
So if that didn't set it up for you where you can hear that the rest of Stephen Colbert's monologue will be misled, if not misleading, let's go into clip B. On Halloween, kids literally go door to door to get free candy from the neighbors because the kids don't have it, and the neighbors do.
That's socialism.
No, it's not.
No, it's not that.
Why?
The kids create or purchase costumes, and for an entire evening they walk door to door tirelessly, and they're rewarded for their activity with candy.
That's called...
Work.
Yeah, and the only way this actually works is if that fat kid sits at home, does nothing, no costume, and makes everybody come and bring candy to him.
That's the only way that's actually socialism.
This other stuff looks like a little bit of work.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And that fat kid, by the way, was Bernie Sanders.
Candy is...
I can't do it.
Candy is...
You better write.
Now, then Bernie changed.
He started counting points after his couch surfing days were done.
Next clip.
No child in the history of childing has ever voluntarily missed Halloween unless...
I'm worried that kid didn't go out.
Why?
Is he okay?
Is that child caring for a sick parent?
You know what would be a nice thing to do?
Give him half your Halloween candy.
So this is the quintessential leftist argument right away.
They care and you don't, right?
They're compassionate and you're not.
Which statistically, let's just get this out, it couldn't be further from the truth.
Okay, Republicans give more to charity, they volunteer more of their time, and they give more blood.
Not only that, Republicans are better tippers, which we've written about, of course.
Bernie Sanders never tips above 18% on the dot.
Was it 18 or was it 15?
I thought it was 15.
I think it was 18%.
It might have been 15%.
I think you're giving too much credit.
I think it's 15%.
But it's very much like Ebenezer Scrooge with the prisons and poor houses.
I'm going to give the bare minimum and not a penny more.
Yes, exactly.
He says no child has willingly ever stayed home on Halloween, which, this is another thing, it completely echoes, again, the liberal idea of socialism.
And this is an overarching theme that no one could possibly be in poverty.
No one would ever forego trick-or-treating, right, if...
If it were within their control.
It's clearly not something they wanted to do.
These are, they're a victim of societal circumstance.
Where do they get this from?
Well, let's go to Obama.
He said the same thing all the time.
What we've long understood, though, is that some communities have consistently had the odds stacked against them.
Yeah, not all of them.
No.
Not all of them.
That's not necessarily the thing that's always why people are poor.
We also know some kids who didn't do that, right?
We know kids who didn't want to wear a costume, or they forgot to make a costume or buy a costume until it was too late.
And there were always the kids who were too cool.
I knew a lot of those.
For Trick or Treat, remember?
Oh, yeah.
All the time.
Like, I'm dressed as...
I trick-or-treated in college.
Well, what's the matter with that?
I trick-or-treated until I was 22 years old, and that's not even a joke.
Really?
22?
You just have to get a full body costume and mask, and they don't know.
Well, you like to dress up, so it's cool.
You just say you have a pituitary disorder.
No one cares.
I'm big for my age.
Now, if we get rid of the kid who's going through chemo, who has leukemia, let's get rid of the extreme examples, it's far more likely that a kid isn't out trick-or-treating because he chose not to.
Either because he chose not to through inaction, through not being prepared, or he just decided he wasn't going to go trick-or-treating, he was going to rely on somebody else to do it.
The same can be said for adults benefiting from socialism.
Good example, Sweden, where only 0.3% of refugees work.
Had to get that dig in there.
That's a small number.
A National Bureau of Economic Research study concluded that in the mid-90s, the welfare reforms actually could explain about 50% of the decline in desire to work among non-participants, meaning people who are not in the workforce.
So here's the thing.
When you just give somebody stuff, I know it sounds like a logical reach.
They just rely on you giving them stuff.
Next clip, and it's disturbing.
We need to be talking about things like universal Heathcare, which would be a lifesaver for working people.
Socialist ideas outlined by the authors of Dots Capital, Karl Mars, and Frederick Skittles.
Or as you dum-dums like to call them, nerds.
Oh my god.
No, we don't call them nerds, we call them communists.
Yes.
Communists.
Hardcore, original communists.
He literally uses Karl Marx as a positive example.
You don't want to do that.
And I was kind of confused with Frederick.
I think he means Frederick Engels.
Engels.
Who was the guy who helped, obviously, found Marxist theory.
He tried to sneak that in on skills.
I'm like, who is this Frederick guy?
And then I realized, oh, this is like...
This is like someone who's really in the know of Communists knows Frederick.
Well, no, no.
It's no, but it was bad because Skittles.
Skittles, yeah.
Carl, Mars, you kind of get it, but Skittles didn't necessarily go to Angles.
But what was that?
Greek candy bar, by the way.
Mars bar.
Oh, fantastic.
Yeah, it's okay.
We get ripped off in the U.S. We can't find them very easily.
Really?
Yeah, it's a true story.
Is that true?
They replace them with Snickers all of them, which suck!
We have a slightly bigger Cadbury egg in Canada, so you do get the short end of the candy stick.
But it's crazy.
I mean, he uses Karl Marx.
And the fact that then we found out, I think he means Frederick Engels.
Like, if we ever made a joke about Hitler that seemed to be praising him, we'd be pretty clear you would realize if it's satire.
This is not satire.
And the fact that he says, you dum-dums, in other words, you have to be a dum-dum to not like the founders of communism?
Yeah.
You dum-dums who don't like chocolate Himmler.
It'd be like if someone said Hitler.
Gummy.
And then starts praising the generals.
Yeah, Hitler.
Hitler.
Did he just say Hitler?
And Himmler.
I think he just said N-V-S-S. No, I think he's definitely pro-Nazi.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure Stephen Colbert is pro-communism.
Why would you like these guys?
They almost destroyed the world a couple of times over.
And they never worked.
Just move past it, please?
They also never worked.
No, no, ever.
Get beyond the horrible ideology that resulted in the hundreds of millions of people killed.
They were the douche who couch-surfed, who never actually paid taxes or worked a job.
So just on a personal level, like, Carl, could you just leave your stiff socks in your own drawer?
All right?
Would you starch them?
We know what's happening because when I go to work, you have time by yourself.
I know, you're writing your latest novella.
I mean, like, they are total losers.
This is crazy to me that people have skimmed past Karl Marx.
Yeah.
This is what the left does.
They just want to claim the moral high ground and give people stuff.
But they fight.
They consistently fight any policies that would actually help the chronically, the perpetually poor people.
So they'll fight for 15.
You signed up for a fight for 15, which isn't a real thing, by the way.
It's really hard to get involved, turns out, because they never actually tell you where they're going to be and what they're doing.
And you're like, where did they get these pictures?
It's right down the block for me.
It's right down the block, yeah.
It's like 12 people, and they claim it was 35.
I get emails all the time, and you can tell they reach out for the really black names to sign off on the letters.
It's really obvious to me.
They go out of their way to make themselves really sad.
The left will fight for 15.
They'll fight for a bigger welfare state.
More money for schools.
Health care to fight poverty.
Michelle Obama wants you to get moving, right?
To be healthy.
Move it.
But they oppose drug testing for welfare.
They oppose working for welfare.
If you even live an active, healthy lifestyle, guess what?
You're still going to have to pay the skyrocketing premiums for someone who lives on a diet of Snickers and funnel cakes.
Hashtag no fashion.
If you actually look at it, you want to help people get out of poverty, consistently fight the tools that would do so.
If we really want to help solve poverty, which is what the whole Colbert thing is, this whole premise is you don't care about the poor.
Avoiding poverty is pretty simple.
Ben Shapiro's talked about this.
We've talked about this for years.
Finish high school, don't do drugs, get married, and stay married.
Not only will you not be poor, but the statistical likelihood of your kids being poor is next to now.
The statistical likelihood of your kid finishing school, going to college, getting a job, getting married, where he ends up in prison is, are mommy and daddy married, and is daddy still in the house?
Okay?
How dare you make sense.
That requires a moral judgment.
People are perpetually poor because rather than tell the truth, the left gives a handout.
The truth is, if that kid didn't go out door-to-door, again, let's disregard the extreme examples, right?
The kid who looks like Charlie Brown, Progeria, okay?
Fine.
We'll give him anything he wants.
Okay?
He's going to get a make-a-wish.
We're going to fix that one.
But it's going to be charity.
You're not going to steal it from me to give it to him.
Right.
That's a good point.
It's voluntary.
Yes.
But most kids just didn't go door-to-door for that candy, okay?
The fact is, he doesn't deserve it.
Your virtue signaling, compassion doesn't change it.
Let's give you two scenarios, okay?
Scenario one.
All right.
That kid who didn't get the candy, right?
Stephen Colbert says, just give him the candy.
Kid's bummed that he didn't get any candy.
And he turns it around for next year.
Scenario one says, you know, I really, I really, this was bummed.
This was a bummer.
I should, I should go door to door.
I missed a lot of fun and candy.
Next year, gets a costume, hits the road.
Big year.
Two trash bags full of candy.
Scenario two.
That kid's bummed that he didn't get his candy.
Okay?
So he stays home.
Instead, a parent steals it from some other kid and gives it to him because compassion.
And that parent promises him that he'll do the same thing next year and the next year and the year after that.
What do you think happens to that kid?
Worse.
What do you think happens to the kid who actually went door to door and hit the pavement only to have half of his stuff taken?
And he knows that you're going to take half that stuff next year and the next year and the next.
Eventually, that kid is going to give up.
And that's this issue with this fake victim culture.
How about the nice thing is just give the kid the candy?
It's free!
When I was a kid, I remember someone said, you know, if you want to donate candy for kids who are less fortunate.
Now, if someone said you want to donate candy to kids in other countries because they don't have Halloween fun.
I remember as a kid, I turned to my father.
I said, you know, kids in neighborhoods who are less fortunate.
I turned to my dad and I said, it's free!
Anyone can go out and get the candy.
All you have to do is walk.
You just have to walk.
Even if you don't have a costume, put a bed sheet over your head.
Not if you're in a really bad neighborhood of Detroit.
Maybe that's a bad idea.
A ghost.
Okay, you meant a ghost.
Okay, got it.
But I'm just saying, you know, put a hula hoop on.
Yeah.
Find some of your dad's clothes.
Dress up as an old man.
It's free.
There couldn't be a more perfect example.
This is a great example.
When a leftist says, well, you know what?
The right thing is just to take it and just share that candy.
What do you think when they're taking something that's earned for free, right?
And they're willing to do it with something that's earned for free.
What do you think they're willing to do with something that's actually earned that isn't free?
Meaning payment for work, your goods or services, or your business.
How far are they willing to go in that instance?
Because when it's free and available to everyone, they still feel the need to redistribute.
You'd think you'd be like, okay, listen, guys, all right, yeah, we'll take this stuff because these are the easiest ones.
But listen, come on, this is like, it's free, just go out, bag in a few doors.
You don't need us to do that for you, do you?
But they don't.
They still say the right thing is to steal from this guy and gift you.
And that's the question of the day.
Do you find that as you get older, yeah, you were going to...
Here's what strikes me about this video the most.
I get the metaphor of kids.
Kids understand candy.
They don't understand money.
They don't understand wealth.
I thought my parents had unlimited dollars and cents when I grew up.
Just go to the money machine.
In fact, when they'd ring up stuff at the grocery store, and you'd ring up one candy bar for $1.19, and they'd ring up another one for it, and it said $1.19.
I thought this was calculating the total.
I'm like, if it still says $1.19, let's just keep scanning candy bars all day.
What the hell are we doing?
This was last week.
It's a metaphor about candy, and kids understand candy.
But I also understand metaphors can break down at some point.
To me, when I look at this and think, okay, Colbert went after a tweet from Donald Trump Jr.
about a metaphor that we all know can break down at some point.
This tells me he really has socialism on the brain and really wanted to get just an opportunity.
He's been looking for it.
Hey, writers, any opportunity to pluck socialism?
Have you got any opportunity?
Is there an open door there?
Yeah.
It's presented itself because I really want to get to socialism.
He's passionate about socialism.
This just happened to be his avenue.
I'm really hoping there are Halloween specials where I finally get to fit in my love for Karl Marx and Fabric Ginnis.
And use candy to do it.
But I'll play coy.
I don't want to.
But we know I really mean it.
I really want to.
All right, we've got to get going.
Gavin McInnes is coming up next.
And guys, he's in Dean Cain, I think.
That'd be good.
- What day next year for you? - I love the world.
- Come on. - You should leave him his dignity.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
Homo?
Homo?
He said homo?
He said homo?
Can't you understand English?
He said homo!
Now.
Home.
Yeah, the closet.
That's Jared's home.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jared.
Oh, no, no.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Jared, homo!
No!
Jared, homo!
No!
Jared's a homo!
No!
He's just a homo!
No!
No homo.
Oh, hell am I.
All right.
That was called...
I was going to dance, but Hopper decided he wanted to come in a friend.
He decided he had better things to do.
You know what he did today?
We took him to the vet to get a bath.
He walked right in.
I'm not joking.
Picked his leash up in his mouth and walked himself right out the door.
Like a man.
Just walked out.
What a statement.
He could have just walked out.
He picked it up in his mouth and walked out to make a statement.
All right.
Glad to have our next guest.
We've had him on...
It hasn't been actually that long.
He'll probably be on more frequently...
Now that he is also available to Mug Club members in the CRTV, get off my lawn, Gavin underscore McInnes, McInnes on the Twitters.
How are you, Gavin?
I'm good.
How are you, Steve?
I'm doing...
I don't know.
Steve Crowder.
Is this your uniform now with this?
Is this like what you wear for the show always?
Yeah, I have about seven of these ties and about ten of these shirts.
And it's my new look.
It's my new thing.
Dad.
Was that the decision?
Is this in your mind?
This is how most dads dress?
All my decisions happen in my mind.
That's one of my prerequisites for personal decisions.
They have to involve my mind at some point down the chain.
Do you picture dads like this?
Yeah, this is my ideal dad, NASA. Also Michael Douglas and falling down, but these are the kind of dads who...
I remember my dad.
I'm actually going to have him on my podcast tomorrow.
Remember in the 70s, dads would do things like set up a wall with bricks and stuff in the back garden wearing this.
Like they'd have their slacks on, maybe an undershirt, but still they'd get cement on their dress shoes because that's the only shoes they had.
Actually, I've talked about this a lot.
My grandfather, French-Canadian grandfather, he used to get suits from the guy who owned the properties.
He was a super.
The guy was Mr.
Mongeau.
He was like a millionaire, which is unheard of in Montreal.
So he would give hand-me-down suits to my grandfather.
He would be walking up three stories with two cans of tar, three-piece suit, brill cream, Clark Gable mustache.
And he'd also be elbow deep in s*** in a coil because he was doing plumbing.
But he would still have the three-piece suit.
He'd keep the vest on.
And, you know, we try to find comfortable clothes for traveling.
Now dads can't wait to get into their pee-pee jam-jams.
The second they get home, the suit comes off like it's Superman in reverse.
No, no, Superman in normal.
And then they've got their basketball shorts on, their bare feet, like they're going to their kid's game in flip-flops and some undershirt with their armpit hairs everywhere.
Everyone looks like they're in a pajama party these days.
It's true.
They look pretty gross.
By the way, do you know who directed Falling Down with Michael Douglas?
A lot of people won't guess this.
Do you know?
I believe it was Drew Barrymore's mom.
What?
No, I just made that up.
I have no idea.
I was like, wait, is there something...
No.
Surprising, because he's never made another good film, Joel Schumacher directed that.
No.
Oh, really?
Yeah, Rubber Nipple Batman.
No.
Joel Schumacher, he directed Falling Down.
You lost yourself, Joel.
Yeah, number 23, Lost Boys, super gay undertone to every film, but he did Falling Down, and it's great.
I don't know how...
It doesn't compute.
Okay.
Wait, you want to know some more juicy gossip?
Yes, I do.
You know who wrote Falling Down?
Drew Barrymore's mom.
The strange bald pervert in Portlandia who has an obese wife and they get up to all kinds of polyamorous lovemaking.
He's portrayed as a hippie pervert in Portlandia.
Bald guy.
Can we get a name?
I guess I can get you.
That's okay.
All right, speaking of dads, listen, you're a New York guy.
It almost seems like years ago at this point, the New York terrorist attack that occurred.
It seems forever ago.
What was that like for you?
Were you in New York when 9-11 occurred?
E.B. Rose Smith.
E-B-B-E is his first name.
Yes, I was here for 9-11.
I was in the Lower East Side, watched it happen live, watched it collapse, became an Islamophobe that minute.
Right.
Still passionately phobic to this day.
But I was also in New York when the other terror attack happened just two days ago now.
Right.
Eight people were killed.
But you weren't a dad in 9-11.
So did it change your perspective when this happened, now that you're a dad and you're seeing it unfold?
Totally.
Totally.
Because I think a lot of the childless, no offense, Jared and Stevie, but they have less skin in the game and they tend to sort of go, well, this is a bad week or this is a bad month.
But if Islam gets to, say, over 10% of your population, You become a Sweden, and you become a Luton England, and you become a country that has a predilection, or an area, that has a predilection to terror, which is dangerous and horrible and scary, and is even worse for the next generation.
Mohammed's the number one baby name in England right now, because they weren't paying attention to it.
And I don't want that for my kids or my grandkids.
What was it like having to explain this to your children?
Because obviously there's a lot of misinformation when it came out.
How did you just come out right and say, listen, Muslim guy killed people because he doesn't like people who aren't Muslim.
There are people out there who just hate you because you don't share their religion and it's evil.
Like I said, I don't have kids.
How do you explain it to them?
I know.
Why don't you have kids?
The second you have that kid, that dog you have is going to become a stuffed animal.
I look at my dog and I just think, die.
Go ahead and die.
Or don't die.
I don't care.
Just don't defecate on my rug.
I feel nothing for him.
That's probably because you haven't trained the dog to not defecate on your rug.
I'm not saying it's up to children value.
Hopper's more like a piece of furniture at this point.
Yeah, at this point, really.
He's positively inert, so he's easier to handle.
Now, how old are your little ones?
Ten, nine, and four.
And here's the deal when you have kids.
You say, how do you explain 9-11?
You avoid 9-11 for as much as possible.
It's like sex.
It's like Santa.
It's like race.
You don't want to discuss that.
You want the kids to be kids for as long as possible.
So the only time I bring up any of this stuff is when they get told the opposite by some blabbermouth.
Yeah.
At church or something, like when they were told on Martin Luther King's birthday that he was killed by a gun, and if only we could pile up all the guns in the country and have a big bonfire.
That's dangerous.
Actually, Marty loved guns.
Yeah, that is a lot of guns, isn't it?
I also don't think they understand the general concept of flammability.
It wouldn't be a very easy fire to start.
There'll be a few wooden buttstocks, but for the most part, you're just going to have a lot of hot guns.
Exactly.
A lot of hot guns and some melting lacquer.
I had a friend who beat a bullet to smithereens as a kid and it blew up on him.
Yeah, with a hammer?
With a hammer.
Everyone knows a kid who has that kind of story.
So you haven't talked about this with any of your kids yet?
Because basically the media is a blabbermouth.
They lie about all of it.
I know, but kids shouldn't be reading the New York Post.
I mean, they said that during the election.
They go, how am I supposed to tell my kids what the president says when he says grab your pussy or whatever?
And I go, don't let your kids hear what the president says.
Don't let them read the paper.
I hit the newspaper when we had the terror attack two days ago and today.
I don't want them seeing that.
That's folded face down on the kitchen table.
No.
Well, either A, they can physically reach at the kitchen table, or they have an iPad.
That doesn't worry you at all, but they just open it.
Apple News!
Oh, gosh, it's such a tougher.
Kids don't have a news show on CRTV. They're not interested in news of the day.
They're interested in FGTV. My son's interested in the Mets.
My daughter's interested in making videos on Musical.ly and chatting with her friends.
I mean, we keep politicizing the apolitical, and that includes children, and it's a plague because only the very well-informed should be dabbling in this area.
It's dangerous for the naive to get involved, and the naive is...
Heavily involved, boy.
That's true.
Although in Montreal, we were just talking about this.
I took Jared for the first time there.
Remember they used to have the porno tabloids next to the Skittles in Montreal.
It would be like a dead body, porn, and ring pop.
This is how they would lay it out.
Allopolis, it was called.
Yes, allopolis!
That's what it was!
And they'd have a stripper with her throat slit just like that on the cover.
Right.
It was like Mexican tabloids.
And you'd walk by it as a kid and go, oh, I didn't know that an open throat looked like that.
You can really see the esophagus.
Right.
I'm now 31 years old, even though I'm 10.
It just struck me as a hyper-sexualized city.
Like, you'd have, like, your KB toys right next to a massage parlor.
And it's like, jeez!
Yeah.
Dear Lord.
It is real.
It was populated by sluts.
I mean, the soldiers went down there to kill all the Indians who killed the Jesuits.
And then they said, all right, we won this time.
The Indians didn't beat us up.
But now we need chicks.
So Louis XIV sent a fille de roi.
Which were all the prostitutes.
And you end up with a pretty slutty city.
But it's so slutty and sex positive that you go to a strip club and there's no seediness.
It's just like, bonjour, I'm a woman who's very libidinous and I like to show my genitalia to strangers.
And then the strangers are like, and I like to look at genitalia so we have a fair exchange.
And you're like, what is this, a hippie cult?
You're supposed to feel dirty in here.
This is not fun anymore.
It's a hippie cult where the prerequisite is sounding like Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast, apparently.
It sounds like, yeah.
Otherwise, you're out!
Okay, so this happened.
Is it just me, or did the media move on in record time?
Once we got out, the guy was a man.
Yeah.
Look at Charlottesville or look at Vegas and how it dominated 100% of the show for at least a week.
I was supposed to be on Tucker, actually, when Vegas happened, and it delayed us like eight days, and then they said, oh, we've moved on to other things.
Sorry.
That could have just been an excuse, but the point is that both of those things were seen as weak swallowers.
This, we feel like we're doing ancient history now, and it was two days ago.
Yeah, because Dustin Hoffman grabbed an ass.
That was a surprise.
I was stunned to discover that Brett Ratner was a jerk.
Who knew?
Who knew that Kevin Spacey, a millionaire homosexual in the arts, groped buns?
Yes, I know.
That was one, I will say, in tandem, together.
We don't know.
Could be a lone wolf.
One they did know.
The guy yelled out Allahu Akbar as Usager.
Nothing good happens after that.
We don't know.
Combined with, hey, breaking news, Kevin Spacey's gay.
As though they didn't know this all along.
It completely destroyed any shred of integrity I felt that the media had left.
I mean, you know, you've been in the entertainment, everyone knew he was gay.
I'm gonna get on a plane.
I'm going to open the window, the emergency window, I'm gonna get on top of the plane with a bullhorn, and I'm going to announce to all of North America The difference between these white lunatics who kill people and Muslims is the Muslims are following a book.
It says it in the book.
There's a pattern with one and no pattern with the other.
Yeah, I was going to say, oh jeez.
You might want to nail that down in a second.
Feels like a blazing saddle town.
It's like that Kim Jong-un village where it's just on the side.
Yeah, you get some bread, right?
We need a three-prong.
Yeah, it is remarkable.
I understand it, right?
You're trying to look for a correlation.
Okay, mass shooting, is there something?
Instead, they ultimately come back to an inanimate object.
I don't know how else to explain it.
We talked about this yesterday.
Book says, kill gays.
Women are second-class citizens.
Kill non-Muslims or treat them as second-class citizens.
Every Muslim country in the history of ever, that's what they do.
Case in point, why is this still an issue?
There's no other way to explain it.
It gets so repetitive, you wonder if that's why they move on.
But they don't move on.
They move on because they want to say, hashtag not all Muslims, and I want to blow my brains out.
Well, they also, they hate white people, right?
So they go, okay, to criticize Islam feels like I'm making fun of brown people.
I don't like that.
I want to focus on the Charlottesville, the Vegas ones.
You go, okay, I get that.
But the guy who did this was white.
He was part of when Russia sort of got encroached by Islam, and now you have these all Ezekistans that have white dudes with big funny beards.
You can hate him.
He's all there for the hating.
You still don't care?
No, I don't.
I don't like it.
They always say, I've talked to liberals about this, and they always go, that's not my area of expertise.
And that happens in the other part of the world.
And I go, no, it actually happened in the West Side Highway bike path in lower Manhattan, right next to you.
So what is your issue?
And then you had liberal journalists saying, I know I live in New York, but the odds of that happening to me are a fraction of a tenth of one percent.
And you go, okay, good.
Okay, so we'll wait until the odds are one in three that you're going to have your head blown off before we care about Islam in the West.
I live in Alphabet City.
I don't go that high.
I don't go that far north.
I'm safe.
It sounds like you do have to wait for Islam to conquer the entire United States and become the man before liberals have a problem with them.
That's the thing.
People say, well, look at Plenty of peaceful Muslims in the United States.
It's like saying, hey, listen, I really have a problem with Denmark's socialized health.
What about the people from Denmark in the United States?
I don't care about them.
Let's talk about the ones in Denmark.
Let's talk about where they have power in every Muslim country ever.
If they want to talk about cis-white patriarchy, let's take the most moderate Muslim country in existence.
They still flog you in Indonesia for dressing immodestly.
And you're blocking for these s***.
All right, Gavin, where's the best place for people to find you and watch this show?
We're going to have a promo here later today as well.
Okay, there's a website called CRTV.com.
You go on there and you'll see my face.
I'm the one that has a beard.
Just click on that and then I will come out of your machines.
Shade Throne.
That's at Gavin underscore McInnes.
Another couple months before we have him back.
We have Gary Sinise.
Gary Sinise.
He's a nice man.
man.
It'll get better.
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That explains the trouble that I'm always in.
That explains the trouble that I'm always in.
All right.
Next guest, love to have him.
But we always have some trouble figuring out questions because he's possibly the nicest guy I've met.
And so usually in this show, we're dealing with news, there's controversy, and we're like, hey, can we ask him about...
Oh, no, he's too nice to ask that question.
It's like asking a really nice uncle where you're like, I don't know that he knows about that story because he's just...
I don't have those uncles.
They're all the guys who are behind the shed.
They're in jail.
All right, you can follow him on Facebook.com slash Gary Sinise.
So in case you hadn't guessed who it is yet, Mr.
Sinise, how are you, sir?
How are you, Stephen?
Very nice.
Thank you for the introduction.
Very nice.
Now, were you always this kind of a man or did society pummel you into submission?
That's my question.
Is someone like you born or were you made later on?
What do you mean by this kind of man?
So you're like, well, this is exactly it.
Like, well, what are you...
So nice.
I don't think I've ever seen you raise your voice.
You've always been so welcoming to people who...
I've seen you interact with fans.
That's not typical of everyone I've met in Hollywood.
So is that just your nature?
Well, I've got a lot to be thankful for.
Things have gone pretty well.
Got a great three kids.
You know, been married to...
Same woman since 1981.
You know, things have gone well.
The career has gone well.
You know, I've been blessed.
Still have both my parents.
I haven't had any major tragedies personally in my life that have, you know, really taken our family into...
Difficult situations like so many families that I actually work with through my foundation and through the support work that I'm with I'm seeing people constantly that are You know, going through some very, very difficult challenges.
So I just feel kind of blessed and thankful for the good fortune I've had.
See, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
He lists like 20 things that he's grateful for and compliments to everyone.
And none of it was like the kind of Trump or Hollywood, like, and I'm the best at none of that.
Okay, that's actually an interesting question.
How?
Only you and Alice Cooper have been married that long of anyone I know in the entertainment industry.
It's incredibly rare.
What's the secret to that?
Because I've got to imagine even you get mad every now and then, right?
You're married, it happens.
My wife is very, very funny.
She's kind of an eccentric person.
So even after 40 years, I'm baffled at some of the things that she says and comes up with.
And they're very, very entertaining and very amusing.
So I think your sense of humor...
It's something that can carry the day.
Look, like any couple who've been together a long time, you've had your challenges, and we've certainly had ours.
But, you know, I'm blessed we're still together.
We've had some issues.
You know, she's suffered with some...
Terrible spine issues.
She's had six back surgeries and survived those.
And, you know, we've been through our challenges ourselves.
But you know what?
We've come out on top.
We have faith and belief.
And it's helped carry us through a lot of good things and a lot of tough things as well.
Well, there you go.
Hopefully some people listen.
I don't think there are many people in the industry who will not.
But him, and it's very similar to actually Alice Cooper's answer.
He said, you know, my wife has a great sense of humor.
And, you know, you have to be able to work through these issues.
He did go through rehab, though, serious issues.
And just said, you know, my wife is the ultimate.
So Alice Cooper, of all people.
He's the nicest guy.
No one has a bad word to say about him.
How about this, Gary?
Because this week, obviously, listen, your industry has taken kind of a pummeling, right?
It's been in the entertainment industry.
It's been on the radar of a lot of folks.
She could use a little cleaning up.
Everyone needs to improve.
I have nothing to do with any of that.
I doubt anyone's going, Gary!
In hockey, we have some friends.
A good friend of our family for a while was Stu Grimson.
He was an enforcer.
They called him the Grim Reaper.
Nicest guy.
A lawyer.
A lot of the time, the really most aggressive players would surprise you and be the nicest guys.
Who are some people in the industry who you would say most people would be surprised?
Just a great all-around family person.
You're never going to hear a scandal about them.
Oh, I have a lot of good friends.
I mean, one of my oldest, dearest friends is Jeff Perry, who's on that show.
Ironically, he's on a show called Scandal.
Yeah, that's right.
Jeff and I went to high school together.
We started Steppenwolf Theater together with our buddy Terry Kinney.
Jeff, you know, he's the father of Zoe Perry, who is now on that new show, Young Sheldon.
She plays his mother.
Right.
And her mother is Laurie Metcalf.
You know, they've been through their challenges and things like that.
But Jeff is just one of the most wonderful guys.
He's been like my brother for over 40 years, going back to the early 70s.
Wonderful guy.
You know, his head's on right.
Joe Montaigne is another great buddy of mine who really is just, you know, wonderful guy, very charitable, giving person, very, you know, these are two guys that grew up in Chicago.
I mean, we all grew up in Chicago together, so, you know, we have a history there.
How do you avoid the accent, though?
How do you avoid the Chicago sound?
Like, did you have to work on it when you moved out there?
I didn't grow up in the city.
Joe has a little bit more of that because he grew up in Cicero.
But Jeff and I grew up about 25 miles north of the city in a town called Highland Park, which is upper middle class.
There's a big Jewish community there.
I didn't know anybody who talked like that.
You know, because everybody was...
You didn't grow up next to Dennis Farina.
Yeah, got it.
Hey, oh, here's something because I know you've worked...
Dennis was a good pal of mine.
Yeah, I got the note back in the 80s.
Yeah, I've heard really good things about him.
Something that surprised me, obviously these allegations came out about Dustin Hoffman, but when I was reading the journals, this lady was talking about, not just Dustin, but all these things that went on, but she talked about, she said, I am in love with John Malkovich.
She said, I love the way he orders lunch.
It would surprise me because John Malkovich is an actor who is kind of known for that subdued rage, right?
And when you see this coming, it's a perfect example of...
I know you've worked with him.
Would you corroborate?
Super nice guy.
This lady was in love with him.
She said he was just a consummate gentleman.
Yeah, John, you know, he's very eccentric and funny.
And I think he plays, you know, he plays a character a little bit because it's entertaining and people are used to that.
And they expect him to say bizarre and entertaining things and stuff.
But John's a very nice guy.
We've known each other back then.
Since the 70s.
He's a member of Steppenwolf Theatre going back to the mid-70s.
Yeah, I remember that.
I remember finding it so telling where this lady was writing and she went out of her way to say, I love the way I could listen to John Malkovich order lunch all day.
And I'm going like...
Well, I felt awkward for a second because you could have been teeing Mr.
Sneeze up for like a...
No, he made me know something we don't know.
He was like, no, no.
Anybody else.
Talk about anybody else.
Talk about anybody else.
No, not John.
Let me ask this, Gary.
Someone who's a stand-up guy...
Sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, don't talk about John anymore.
I'm done with it.
Okay, we'll avoid it.
Otherwise, you get a phone call.
Gary, I told you never to let my name leave your lips!
And you're like, alright, he's gonna throw a coke at me.
You know, you work with, you just got back from your Soaring Valor flight, I think it is, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So you do a lot of work with the troops and go over and help.
And you build these smart houses, and people haven't checked it out.
You know, like I said, go follow them on Facebook.
You can see everything.
So you fix a lot of Concrete, real-world problems.
You don't just do a photo op and...
He stays busy doing good things.
Busy doing really good things.
When I was a kid and I was a troubled youth a little bit and I went to a counselor, he said, you know, if you're busy, you don't get into trouble.
Do you think maybe that's a part of it?
You're busy focusing on helping other people that, eh, okay, it's tougher to get into some riffraff.
Well, look, service is a great healer.
I remember many times being heartbroken over different things, meeting lots of our wounded service members back in the 90s, working with Vietnam veterans in the 80s who had been shamed when they came home from war and feeling very compassionate for them.
After September 11th, feeling that I needed to do something to reach out to the men and women who were deploying in reaction to that and getting hurt and, you know, the families who were losing loved ones and everything.
So I just started to serve and to use this blessing of good, you know, this good fortune I've had in the movie business and television business to try to do something positive.
And it's grown into a full-time relationship.
It's an ongoing life mission to give back to the men and women who serve our country.
I get a great reward from being able to do that, and I've had some great success in the television business.
Not only being well-known around the world for CSI New York or whatever it is, the TV shows and movies, The financial rewards have been good.
And I've been able to take some of that, do some good with it, start a foundation, the Gary Sinise Foundation, do some good.
And I know I get a lot of good feeling out of that.
So I'm spending all my time trying to do that.
I know there are people in the business who have made...
You know, made a good living.
And I would recommend, you know, using some of that good fortune to do something positive for somebody else.
It's a good feeling to be able to do that.
I feel like I'm Bill Murray in Rushmore.
What's the secret, Max?
And I think that's it.
We were just talking about it.
We were talking off air going, you know, it's a lot of actors, a lot of people in the industry just don't age gracefully.
They're trying to recapture something or be someone they're not.
I think that's what it is.
The way to age gracefully in all aspects is just, okay, this is my chapter where I'm going to esteem others first.
I have the ability to.
And Gary does that.
That's the Gary Sinise Foundation.
We do have to get going.
It's facebook.com slash Gary Sinise.
A lot of guy who does a lot of great work and will keep shouting it from the rooftops because Gary often does it in quiet.
So we can do it for you.
I know you won't say it, but thanks so much for being here, brother.
I appreciate you spreading the word.
Also, garysonagefoundation.org.
That's the foundation website.
We're doing some good.
I'm leaving next week to go down to Texas.
We're doing a big concert in Houston to support first responders that were affected by the hurricane.
There's a hurricane relief fund on the website.
There's all kinds of good things there.
Many good things come to the Gary Sinise Foundation.
I hate to cut you off, but that's the sound of a bump coming to GarySiniseFoundation.org.
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Dean Cain, how are you, sir?
I am great.
Good morning, guys.
Jared, what's up, buddy?
What's up, buddy?
Yes.
It's morning for Dean because he lives by night.
So we were just on during the break about the Wendy Williams pass out, and I know we all feel terrible, but oh my God.
Once I found out that she was okay, that is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
If you want to make sure they're okay first, then it's good to laugh.
It's like if something happens to your friend, you're like, oh, no, no, no.
And then afterwards, you can laugh about it.
But yeah, there were a lot of moments in that very short period of time.
Yes!
There's the initial, the wave, wait, something's going on.
And then she thinks, I got it.
And then the terror of knowing she doesn't.
And then the absolute, all the bones fell out of her body, complete drop.
Yeah, she looked like the skin when Tom and Jerry, when Jerry jumped out of his skin.
Absolutely, that's all it was.
I'm glad she's okay, but it was pretty funny, and I would be a liar if I said I didn't watch it at least three times and called people over to look at it.
Now, is she competitive with the Today Show in that time slot?
I don't think so.
Oh, I sense an opportunity.
I don't think she is.
She's a little bit later in the afternoon, I think.
Oh, okay.
But, you know, that Today Show's a juggernaut.
It is.
Today Show's a juggernaut.
When's the next time you're going to be on there?
People need to know when you watch.
I don't know.
The last thing I did actually was host Fox& Friends weekend.
That was kind of interesting.
Oh!
Did you make it out?
You weren't sexually harassed.
Nope.
Nope.
I was waiting for it, hoping for it.
Well, that's kind of your annual bonus.
Bonus is a good word for that.
And the bonus of if Trump didn't know who you were before, he does now.
There we go.
Well, actually, I know Mr.
Trump, the president.
I know him because I judged the Miss Universe contest for him years ago.
That's right.
We talked about that.
You should know this.
I should know these things.
Hey, speaking of which, do any of these sexual harassment things surprise you right now going on?
I mean, obviously, this is the main story.
To me, what really bothered me about the news with the Kevin Spacey deal was the media acting as though they were shocked that he was gay.
Everyone in the industry has known this for years.
It just makes me not trust.
You know, New York Times are like, breaking!
Kevin Spacey's gay!
You just now are not trusting the New York Times?
Well, yeah.
I had to pick one at that point.
Well, yeah.
It's one of those things.
I said it's the worst kept secret in Hollywood.
That's something that you hear all the time.
Like the Weinstein bit you hear all the time.
Kevin Spacey being gay.
I've never seen Weinstein do his thing.
I've never seen Kevin do his thing.
I did go to a premiere.
Way back, 25 years ago, and it was great.
I forget what the film was, but Kevin Spacey talked to me all night.
I was like, he's the nicest guy in the world.
I was like, yeah, let me talk to you about Kevin.
No, I didn't.
Nothing.
Dean, do you want to see it?
Go ahead.
Touch it.
Touch it.
Play with it.
Tell me you love me.
Let me tell you how it works, Dean.
I'm not the guy that would fall prey to that, I don't think.
No, and we were talking about this before you came on.
I can't imagine you sexually harassing anyone because you're Dean Cain.
You can walk into a room and say, sex with me, and six hands will go up immediately.
I was accused of groping someone on Fox News on air in a lawsuit, which was the most frivolous thing I've ever seen in my life.
Unfortunately, it was on air.
So nothing has ever...
It's the most ridiculous thing.
That's a scary thing.
Can we not say the name?
Because it is on air.
People know if they run a search.
It was...
I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but it's very obvious.
I'm running Google search Dean Cain.
It was okay.
I won't say it, but there was a co-host, and he was saying goodbye.
He was saying goodbye.
Was this outnumbered?
Was it the female one?
Yeah, so it's outnumbered.
So by the way, first off, Fox News sets it up, right?
They're all in the leg chair.
There's a lot of that that went on at Fox News.
I'm not defending all of it, so I don't want to lump everything in the same category here.
But in this instance, Dean said goodbye to one of the outnumbered co-hosts and gave her a kiss on the cheek.
She reached out, and that was it.
What you do in Europe all the time, it's what I've done with that same person 50 times.
Yeah.
Not even a thought process, but that was called groping by an attorney and I thought that was hysterical.
But there's something about that too, that people will, because somebody on Twitter is like, well, what about your alleged...
I'm like...
Really?
Thank God it's on camera.
I'm not saying that anybody who accuses anybody of anything is lying by any stretch of imagination, but it's a two-way street sometimes.
With today's culture, it's like you're going to get the public turn on you really quickly and everyone's going to jump in.
You've been allegedly accused, and that's a scary thing.
For someone like me, I was stunned.
You could have thrown a brick at me.
I could have passed out on the Wendy Williams show.
It's a lose for her, too, the girl, too, because now all the angry bitches are mad that she got a kiss from when you came.
This is true.
No one wins.
They're all pissed at her.
You can go watch it.
I remember I read it and I watched it.
I can't believe that this woman would pick something that was so clear on air.
Just say it happened behind a closed door and people will believe you because that's what happens.
But it was like, this is on air!
It's a peck in the cheek.
So that's a concern for me, too, because Weinstein is everyone kind of new in the industry.
I've never seen it, but I've known people who've worked with him.
It's pretty well known.
On the flip side, there's the Me Too campaign, where now it also is trendy, and you're going, hold on a second.
Nine out of ten of these cases now have no evidence.
It was different with Weinstein and Spacey, and they admitted to it.
But now it's just like, this guy, too, and James Woods.
And he shut that down really quickly.
But, I mean, how do you handle it?
It is a tough balancing act.
That's a tough one.
And right now, certainly the current trend is toward whoever's – if you're blamed for it, you're horrifically guilty.
But there are a lot of people – there are a tremendous number of people in Hollywood especially that are tremendously guilty of it.
People in power have been doing this for – Ever.
And there's no question about that.
But I'm glad it's come to the forefront.
I'm glad there's not these...
You don't have to see the jokes on South Park and go, oh, is that the truth?
And, you know, they do mention some of that stuff on South Park and things.
And they have fun with it.
Or Seth MacFarlane saying it, the Oscars.
And there's things that we all know, in effect.
But I'm glad it's finally come out.
It's just shocking that it's...
You know, suddenly now, House of Cards is canceled.
And this and that.
And the other thing, it's like...
But you've known these things.
This is no surprise.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what bothers me.
For you now, I mean, rocking the black, the V-neck there, if someone comes out accusing you again, just say, it wasn't me.
It was Simon Cowell.
Clearly.
Yeah, exactly.
He's probably been accused of that, too.
Oh, I guarantee you he has.
Yeah.
There's hordes of men saying the same thing.
He seems like the kind of guy who would just look at you and rub his nipples slowly in the green room or something.
You'd read the work log.
You'd be like, yeah, it sounds like something you would do.
Just cut him a wide swath at what he's in the trailer.
Absolutely.
Yeah, it is.
One thing, we were talking about this yesterday.
I know you're more conservative fiscally and socially liberal.
Now, that being said, personally, you're not a guy who's like socially no construct, no boundaries.
I know that about you.
Because Hollywood, though, has for a long time just reviled middle America.
And if someone shows up who is a Christian in the film or is abstinent or is actually loyal to their wife, they're secretly the serial killer, right?
So Hollywood has found themselves so open-minded and sexually progressive.
I'm going...
How is this any surprise that this is an entire segment of society that prides itself on immorality and chastises those who criticize them?
It couldn't go any other way.
No.
You know who's looking real good right about now?
Mike Pence.
Yeah, exactly.
I will not have dinner with a woman who's not my wife, just one-on-one, and you cannot get accused of all the things that he may or someone else may be accused of.
Right.
And shouldn't feminists be on board with that?
Because A, they're like, well, what, he can't control himself?
No.
But he knows if drinks are had, inhibitions sometimes are removed, there can be other accusations.
So to remove any liability and to also ensure that there's no scenario in which he could sexually...
So even if you think he's a germ, he's a germ who's removed any opportunity to act germ-like...
And the guy just got run through the ringer.
You can't win.
Feminists want to have their cake and eat it too, and by that I mean they like lots of cake.
By that you mean they're fat bitches who are mad that Team Cake gets someone out of here.
Unless they're Russian feminists.
Endless amounts of cake.
I'll tell you this, and this is an exclusive here, I have definitely been sexually harassed and gone after, but it doesn't, I don't go at home at night and cry in my pillow and like, oh my god, I'm so dirty.
Okay, come on, you gotta give us a name now.
No, god, the list, I mean, I mean, it goes on and on and on.
Stormo came on this week, he was like, ah, Versace, yeah, Versace, tried to touch my pecker.
Versace?
Was it Versace?
I would imagine Versace.
No.
No, I never had a gay man do it.
That just wouldn't, that probably wouldn't go over.
So, I mean, I'm not gay.
Oh, poor Dean Gay.
He was sexually harassed by the models he worked with on set.
He was sexually harassed by females.
Exactly why I never reported it.
It wouldn't look good.
You'll never drive a car again, all those slash tires.
A part of me wonders, this is entirely a hypothesis.
You can tell me there's something to this.
Now, you were a very successful athlete.
Princeton, obviously, go watch his highlight reel.
Now, you compare that...
Someone who's always been a good-looking guy.
Compare that with someone like Dustin Hoffman.
The recent accusations came out.
The reason I use that example is because it's pretty in-depth and no one involved has denied any of it thus far.
Or Kevin Spacey.
So these are people who probably had great difficulty achieving attention from members of the opposite sex until they became a part of the Cool Kids Club, which was Hollywood.
And so they come into it and now all of a sudden they've been given this platform and this power that they never had.
And do you think that maybe they're the ones who are more likely to abuse it?
Whereas for you, you've probably had to, since college, be aware if you're at a party, anyone could accuse you because it's like, that's Dean Cain on campus.
You know, you get a sexual harassment suit on that guy and you're set for life.
Right.
There's no question.
So that only doesn't just apply to Hollywood.
That applies to politicians.
Right.
I think it really applies to politicians.
Because have you hung around with a lot of those guys?
Wow.
Like, Mike Pence would not have a hard time, you know, getting any punani in Indiana if he wanted to.
So he's had training in saying no, just like you had training in saying no, whereas the other one's just going, give me, give me, give me, I need, I need.
Absolute truth.
And it's men of power who are allowed to abuse their position.
And it's women of power.
It doesn't just happen to just men.
I mean, it happens on both ways.
I'd say it's much more prevalent for a man to do it.
But it certainly happens on the other end.
You see this with teachers all the time.
Teachers all the time.
Fine, yeah.
Yeah, it happens with teachers, female teachers a lot.
And that's a horrible thing.
It never happened to me.
I see Stephen's mind.
He's like, that's a horror.
I just can't imagine.
I would imagine every single teacher, Dean Cain put an apple on their desk.
They're like, thank you.
Let's talk about this after class.
Every teacher tried to put Dean Cain on layaway.
I've never had any problem with that sort of situation, but it is pretty damn prevalent, and it has touched my family to some degree.
Not myself, but it's an unfortunate thing.
So that certainly does exist.
But I think with most of the other guys, it's the guys you talk about, the guys who maybe wouldn't be so socially popular and wouldn't have maybe the luck with the ladies that I've seen.
Right.
People that I know who are in this business and who do that, they'll just call in an actress because they think she's beautiful.
She has no chance to get the part.
They just want to meet her.
Yeah.
I've seen that happen plenty.
I have seen that happen as well.
As a matter of fact, in Montreal, there's one who, I won't name a name, but it wouldn't be that hard for people to figure out.
And it was kind of well known.
Listen.
In the realm of actors, I'm like, I would be like a five.
In the realm of stand-up comedians, I'm beyond a ten.
When you're talking about on the road in Schenectady or Poughkeepsie or out in Hackensack, New Jersey.
So true.
And so this happened a lot when I was 18, 19, and I'd be doing stand-up all the time.
Opportunity was there all the time, right?
You have five shows that weekend, a room of 200 people, okay?
All the time, either trying to follow me.
Often the hotel room is right next to the club.
And I'm like, no, listen, especially when I had a girlfriend, no.
And the next guy, the guy who would be the headliner, would literally be like, hey, I'm having a party over at my place, and invite them into their room.
And so it was really different.
This was a guy.
I remember a guy, bald, old, fat, typical comedian, unhappy.
I remember a very specific instance of me saying, hey...
I had a bit about not being boyfriend material.
She wrote me a note on a receipt and said, hey, I think your boyfriend material.
And I thought, like, that's kind of sweet.
Like, you know what?
I have a girlfriend.
Thank you.
But then she followed me.
She was pretty aggressive.
And she was attractive, mind you.
So it wasn't very easy for me to say no as a 19-year-old male at this point.
And this guy was very creepy.
And he pursued her.
I don't think he was successful.
But I just thought that was like, oh, wow.
This guy's never learned how to be like, no, not right now.
That's a muscle you kind of have to exercise self-control.
No question about it.
You can get in an awful lot of trouble and you see that with a lot of people.
There's no question.
I have stayed pretty scot-free and I've certainly dated in my day.
You have lived a full life.
For a young man.
I'm still very young.
Very, very young.
And we'll see.
I'm sure at some point, if I ever run for office, I'm sure someone will say I did something awful, terrible.
I cut their hair back in grade school or I dated somebody's sister or friend or whatever.
I'm sure that'll all be...
You make a horrible criminal.
I know.
I'm a bad guy.
I'm not a good criminal.
He's trying to soften what he's actually done.
What he really means is he slept with someone's sister while his friend was in the house, and that's going to come out, and then it's going to be like, I'm running for Senate, and I have to apologize for this.
I think we're past that, though.
I think we're past it.
Yeah, I think we're past the era of like...
I mean, a guy who's going to run for president in 15 years is going to have a Yahoo Messenger screen name.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Of course.
There's no way around it now.
It's true.
Oh, yeah.
I can't...
People find my Zynga.
We're toast.
So program's going down.
Crazy, because you're the only non-Asian on Zynga.
But it is true.
Listen to our reaction.
Bobby Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, you're like, sure.
If someone came out and said, yeah, Dean Cain had a casting couch, they would go...
I don't think Dean Cain needed a casting cast.
That would be the reaction.
All right, Dean Cain, where's the best place for people to find you and follow you?
At my house.
Oh, wait, don't do that.
Don't do that.
ActRealDeanCain on Twitter.
I'm most active on Twitter.
And I have an Instagram account, but I almost never use it.
It's true, because all the ladies chase him too much on the Instagram account, and then he has to fend them off and say, no Weinsteins here!
No.
We'll be back after this.
Wrap this up.
There it is again, so strong.
*music* No.
You have to go.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'll be right here.
No.
I'll be right...
Stop.
I'll be...
Stop.
I'll be right with this.
Ouch.
The End
I let them die while I made a makeshift snorkel.
Clever.
You jerk.
You are clever.
Drowning dance.
Capitalist.
Cut you guys off.
It's a pass.
Wow, your IQ. Dean Cain, always fun.
Really smart guy.
Very good guy.
Did you ever watch his highlight reel, Gerald?
The highlight reel of Dean Cain?
At Princeton?
No, no.
I heard he was a good football player.
You never watched it?
No.
Oh, wow.
I think he pulled it up one time, and it was pretty impressive.
I don't think I watched all of it, though.
He's like an angry little jumping bean.
For a football player, he's not that big.
But he played for Stanford.
Or no, I'm sorry.
Princeton.
Princeton.
It's not...
Well, I think he was on the bench for the Raiders or something, wasn't he?
Bills.
For the Bills, right.
Buffalo Bills.
I take it all back.
He didn't play for a long time, though.
I think he was kind of like an...
It doesn't matter.
You get in, you're an NFL guy, that's a big deal.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh, gosh.
Because it would mean you must be at a certain level.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Everybody else is packing it up and you're keeping going.
Right.
That's cool.
He was also at 5-11, you know, 2-0-5.
5-11?
Make it to the Bills, yeah.
Not a big guy.
Well, the Bills, you know.
I don't know anything about the Bills.
Losers of four Super Bowls in a row.
I did just watch sounds like I'm not exactly where you want to be.
No, what that means is they always get the first couple drafts.
No, if they lose the Super Bowl, like, you know, you get the second draft pick, but you just suck.
Have you lost a Super Bowl?
Four times in a row?
The Bills?
Are you kidding me?
I don't watch the Bills.
You didn't know that?
The Bills are stupid.
The point is he was a good football player.
We derailed a point.
So going back to what we were talking about.
I played tight end for Notre Dame.
Thank you very much.
Where's your Terry Hatcher, bitch?
Dang it!
I traded it in for a wine business.
I made a bad deal.
No, look, I mean, we were talking about with the trick-or-treating and the socialism.
Like, civilizations forever have known that if you don't work, you don't eat.
Right.
It's just, it's built in.
It's like, you don't have to tell a child to say no.
You don't have to tell them to be selfish.
You don't have to tell a civilization that people have to work to survive.
Right.
Why are we all of a sudden trying to change that?
It's like parenting.
A lot of parents, they're just chasing their kids.
It's like, listen, your kid's not going to run into the fireplace unless he's really stupid, in which case he should probably run in there anyway.
You know what I mean?
Like parents are like, oh no, I feel like kids inherently, parents since the beginning of time, they didn't just watch their kids every second.
They're inherent things that kids know.
There's information that's just innate.
I think it's funny too, because liberals probably, I think they see working less in socialism as That's the evolution, right?
That's the evolvement from working so hard.
But you don't realize people were dying before they realized they needed to work.
That was what evolution was working to eat.
And I don't want to seem Darwinian at all in the sense that, well, it's just if you didn't eat...
Because we had villages, but we had villages in the sense that it provided some level of protection, some level, of course, of a safety net where you realized there was strength in numbers.
But if other people were out hunting and foraging and then you just ate it, And sat in your ass all day?
No, there was no Stephen Colbert with a late night, you know, teepee monologue saying, oh, just give him the boysenberries.
Right.
Were you going to say something?
That was a clever punchline back in the day.
It's old-fashioned, but it's clever.
You don't even know.
I'll bring up my book of Algonquin punchlines.
Name a civilization that sat around and did nothing and survived.
If you can't.
Okay, well, but they're committing suicide in an alarming rate.
The Muppet Chef's been carrying them for years.
No, you're absolutely right.
And I don't want to just say, like, listen, let's just be Darwinian and just think about the natural laws.
But here's the thing.
Conservatives, we talk about this a lot when we did the Change My Mind.
We believe in not only natural laws, but natural rights.
Because natural rights are often found in some form of natural law.
Natural rights mean it's a birthright.
And constitutionally, that means it's recognized by God.
You may not believe in God, but hey, thank God your rights aren't given to you by government.
They're given to you by God.
And the government's only job is to protect your natural rights.
So the thing about, obviously as a Christian what we believe, the morals that we put in place, but also the free enterprise system, it's a way to guide natural rights to be as effective as it can be.
That is, we recognize that, listen, people inherently, they're going to fend for themselves.
People who forage and hunt, if you let them reap what they sow, they're going to go out and they're going to benefit everyone in the village.
They're going to bring back that woolly mammoth.
They're going to bring back that bison.
And everyone else gets to eat.
He might charge you or he might have you working for him, but that guy went out and he led.
And so the way we create a system, the free enterprise system, the capitalist system, is a way to harness the best of human nature through natural laws.
Whereas you look at the left, and I do mean today the regressive left, the left like Stephen Colbert who quotes Karl Marx bar, really Karl Marx and Frederick Engels.
You look at communism, what's it trying to do?
It's trying to fly in the face of natural law, which is why they don't believe in natural rights.
They don't believe in your God-given right to freedom of speech.
They don't believe in your natural right, your God-given right to self-preservation, the Second Amendment.
And so they don't really have a lot of respect for natural law.
They say, no, no, we know that every civilization is in the beginning of time.
You eat what you kill.
So we're going to change that.
We're going to force people to be charitable.
Never has that happened successfully.
We're going to force people to ensure equal outcomes.
Never has that happened successfully in a way that's benefited the entire village.
It's maybe benefited the committees.
Those people who are sitting down talking about the village.
But socialism, Marxism, communism has never benefited the globe as a whole as capitalism, free enterprise, a constitutional republic like the United States has.
No society ever has.
And it really does come down to, this is what I was talking about, and I hope to see a lot of answers to the question of the day.
I'll try and talk with you guys on YouTube about it.
The idea of merit over fairness, because for a long time when you're young you think about fairness of outcomes, equality of outcomes, and the left is still stuck there.
Bernie Sanders, who's never worked a day in the private sector in his life, that's why he still believes it.
You're hard-pressed to find a single business owner who believes that.
And anyone out there, and I know we have some people who watch the show, like I just had someone recently who was a world powerlifting champion, like, hey, this is what I do, I can't really talk about it publicly, but yeah, I really appreciate the show.
We have some people who are really elite in their field.
Anyone who's ever achieved something great in any realm of the human condition, whether it could be athletic, it could be physical, it could be emotional, it could be spiritual, it could be financial.
Anyone who's achieved a level of greatness understands the amount of work that went into that, understands that the big difference is the follow through.
Following through, if you've gotten really good at a sport, think of a hobby, darts, right?
The big I found in my life where I've been somewhat successful has been, all right, committing to something and following through it.
That's how you probably get good at guitar.
That's probably how you get good at golf.
The thing is, people tend to follow through on things that are hobbies because it's fun.
It's easy to follow through on something that's still fun.
But following through on something when it's no longer fun?
Well, see, that's where free enterprise actually encourages you to go against the worst part of the natural human condition.
Yep.
Natural law is you eat what you kill.
Yeah, natural law is okay.
We're on our own.
But if you follow through, if you innovate, if you create something, you're going to be rewarded by the village because that's something that they need.
The big differentiating factor, and we don't like to acknowledge this often, is the follow through when things aren't fun.
Running a business.
Creating a cure for polio.
Finding new treatments for cancer, creating the internet.
I guarantee you there are points with every great technological advancement, medical advancement, or every great contribution to American society that we can think of, there was a point where it was no longer fun.
Just like your sorry little ass didn't want to get out when you were 12 years old and go trick-or-treating, but you realize it was one of your last prime years and you felt bad and you tried to get it back.
You didn't feel like doing it, so you didn't follow through.
Well, free enterprise, a capitalist system unlike socialism, unlike the Karl Marx who Stephen Colbert praises, acknowledges and validates and rewards the follow-through, which is what makes great people.
So do it in your personal life.
Look at areas where maybe you put something off.
Maybe, you know, I could do really well at this if I only finished that follow-through.
And I want to be a part of a society that actually rewards the follow-through.
I want to be a part of the society of the United States that has made every other country better for it.
It's like Wayne Gretzky.
Wayne Gretzky's great skill, I'll leave you with this.
I know, Canadian.
Wayne Gretzky's great skill was he wasn't the best shooter.
He wasn't the best puck handler.
He certainly wasn't the toughest guy.
But he made everybody on the ice better for having been on there.
The United States is the Wayne Gretzky of the globe.
No country comes close.
Every other country has benefited for us being here and finishing the follow through.