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Oct. 27, 2017 - Louder with Crowder

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#252 DNC TRUMP/RUSSIA DOSSIER BACKFIRES BIGLY! Lauren Southern, Phil Robertson & Kevin Sorbo | LwC

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	Welcome to the Halloween Spooktacular.
	We're glad you're here.
	We hope your costumes are ready and fantastic.
	But first, we have a little special treat for you.
	A lot of people have been asking, how did Steven and I meet?
	When did this all come together for Lotter with Crowder?
	And we have a little something special for you.
	Now, tune in next week because we will be telling more of the origin story through video, and you'll want to see that.
	But first, this goes back to the first night Steven and I ever met.
	Hope you enjoy.
	Yeah, I gotta get you.
	Yeah. - Yeah.
	You're gonna get the me!
	Spooktacular special!
	Who's open for a casting call?
	Alright, great show for you today.
	If you can't guess...
	I can't do this all.
	Remember when I do, like, Michael Morris and people are like, Steven really gained weight.
	No, I'm just literally doing this.
	This is the way I do a double chin.
	You have to find a collar, make it too tight, press it up, and then do that.
	You are disgusting.
	Says the man covered in Elmer's glue.
	We have, today, we have Lauren Southern, because she was in the recent Vox video.
	Beautiful.
	She's calling internationally.
	We have Kevin Sorbo.
	Kevin Sorbo!
	Hercules himself.
	And we have Phil Robertson.
	And, by the way, for people watching, we also, your costumes, you can still, we've had a couple, but you can still submit some more costumes.
	A lot of the crowd are themed costumes.
	Winner gets an autographed t-shirt from Not Gay Jared.
	Just so you know, Kevin Sorbo had to be pre-taped.
	That's why it looks different, because we had to tape him this morning.
	He had a flight to catch.
	Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay.
	Follow him on Twitter at notgayjared.
	You can get us crowded with your thoughts, your comments, your photoshops, which are always fun.
	I fulfill my legal obligations, drawing conclusions.
	Are we good?
	We are good.
	At G Morgan Jr., the wine man, the sommelier in chief.
	What's the wine of the day, Mr.
	Snow?
	Wine of the day, Jacobs Creek, finished in a whiskey barrel, actually.
	Something for you, right?
	Finished in a whiskey barrel.
	Really?
	Do you like whiskey?
	No.
	That's so embarrassing for him.
	No, I prefer vodka cranberry.
	From a whiskey barrel.
	Off air, he sounds like Hermie, the elf who wants to be a dentist for people who don't know.
	We're going to be talking about the Trump dossier and what's been going on with the DNC in Russia this week.
	We'll be talking about Corey Feldman.
	What else are we going to be talking about?
	We're going to be talking about...
	What's the question of the day, by the way?
	I forgot to, because usually when we do a segment, I guess the question of the day, we're going to be talking more so about Trump and Russia.
	How deafening would you say, in contrast, the media's coverage of it has been?
	It's crazy.
	Honestly.
	It's the week of gifts, too, with Uranium-1, we've got JFK files coming out like it's...
	But it has been the slowest news week when it really shouldn't.
	So, okay, we'll get to that.
	Comment down below if you notice the contrast between the treatment of Donald Trump in Russia, supposedly, and the DNC in Russia, actually.
	Okay.
	In other news, Californians will soon have non-binary as a gender option on birth certificates.
	Now, here's what's important.
	A lot of people will skim through this.
	This isn't a driver's license.
	These are birth certificates, meaning parents are making these decisions for their children.
	Most affected by this, of course, will be medical practitioners.
	Congratulations, Mrs.
	Smith.
	You have a beautiful baby.
	Boy!
	No, sorry.
	Dr.
	Nakia, Jared was not made aware of your desire to have a non-gendered child.
	I apologize.
	No, that's a penis.
	I'm looking at it right there.
	Non-binary!
	Non-binary is what this baby is.
	This baby is free from any and all societal constructs.
	That's a boy.
	Nope.
	Malpractice.
	Sued.
	Bill O'Reilly said this week, there's just no way to move on, that he was mad at God, quote, over not providing more protection for him from the recent sexual harassment allegations.
	Which actually, it makes a lot of sense.
	It explains his latest book release, Killing God.
	That's a tough one.
	Which, of course, is part two to his wildly popular Killing Human Resources.
	He really does, yeah.
	He's not a fan.
	Why?!
	Why would you throw me the lion's den?
	Watch me as lady anchors.
	I can't help myself.
	Why did I block caller ID? Why would you give me a penis and no self-control?
	Turns out the no spin zone meant rape.
	Speaking of which, about...
	It's a terrible transition.
	A Vaseline-covered man in a thong was pulled over by police in Oklahoma.
	This is actually according to the police report.
	Was Jared in Oklahoma?
	Beeb noticed the man was trembling and appeared nervous.
	More unusually, he also noticed a nearly empty container of Vaseline in the car and a pornography magazine in the seat next to Kellerman.
	After Beeb asked for identification, Kellerman handed over an Oklahoma ID card with his name on it.
	The deputy then asked if Kellerman had been masturbating.
	Kellerman said that yes...
	He had indeed been.
	He had indeed been.
	I mean, this is one of those stories where you read the headline and it's the opposite of clickbait.
	It's pretty much what you expect.
	Hello, sir.
	License and registration, please Were you back?
	Yes, I was masturbating.
	Furiously.
	He didn't read you your rights.
	You don't have to say yes to say.
	It's in the Constitution.
	You don't have to admit to masturbatorial activity.
	You have a right to an attorney.
	What did this guy think he was going to get away with this?
	I don't even know what to say to this.
	I'm speechless.
	Well, there's no need to say anything.
	Speaking of sweet nothings, Corey Feldman launched a campaign to expose Hollywood pedophilia.
	First off, before we set this up, because there are critics and it's not that we think anyone should be a pedophile in Hollywood, and I do feel bad for Corey Feldman, but this is his video that he released on Twitter.
	Here, let's watch this.
	But I need to...
	Protect myself.
	Oh boy.
	And I need to protect my family.
	I need to show security.
	And I need a legal team to help represent me so that I can fulfill this mission.
	What I'm proposing is a plan that I believe can literally change the entertainment system as we know it.
	And by tiger blood.
	And I believe that I can also bring down potentially a pedophile ring that I've been aware of since I was a child.
	He's acting right now.
	Right off the bat, I can name six names.
	One of them who is still very powerful today.
	And a story that links all the way up to a studio.
	A studio.
	I'm not going to say which one.
	Invest below.
	The only hang-up, he wants $10 million.
	Holy cow!
	For his Indiegogo.
	Corey, $10 million.
	That's a lot.
	Who molested you, Scrooge McDuck?
	$10 million.
	You only need $600 worth of heroin to die.
	Ouch.
	We're going with the Halloween thing.
	Start.
	Insensitive.
	Insensitive.
	I just, it's one of those, like, I understand, and I do feel bad for him.
	The guy never, this is clearly someone, he dresses like Michael Jackson.
	Yes.
	He does.
	He does.
	He has no identity.
	He has no identity.
	Didn't he have a porn star wife, too?
	Not a porn star, I'm sorry.
	She posed in Playboy.
	Well, the thing, maybe in, I saw the wife swap, he was trying to act like Hugh Hefner in it, he had these, you know, these love angels, he called them.
	It was clearly a Hugh Hefner ripoff.
	He doesn't know who he is.
	It is kind of like.
	Who are you, Corey?
	It is kind of like indentured servitude.
	He didn't choose to be an actor.
	And he got thrust into an industry of the Weinsteins of the world.
	I am sympathetic to him.
	But the thing is, it seems like he's treating it more like an award for turning these people in than, say, just doing the right thing.
	Could you imagine if one of the disciples knew Judas was the betrayer?
	And he was like, I'll tell you, but I need some sheep and some shekels.
	I'll let you in on a little secret.
	But I'm going to need you to pay up first.
	I'm going to need you to pay up first.
	And like, oh, no, he already hung himself.
	That was dark.
	You already knew Jesus?
	Okay.
	Dang it.
	By the way, just to clear this up, though, hopefully we can clear it up, because here to discuss this issue is...
	We have him?
	We have him!
	No way!
	Corey Feldman himself.
	Corey, are you there?
	Thanks for being here.
	I'm very glad to be here, Stephen.
	Thank you.
	Sure.
	Now, obviously, you've heard your critics.
	Why not just release the names of these predators so that they can't attack again?
	See, you misunderstand the sensitivity of the issue, Stephen.
	That's why I need you to go immediately now to my IndiegogoCampaign.com.
	Okay, Corey, but $10 million, you can see how one might think it seems a little opportunistic.
	You can just say...
	Who molested you?
	No, no, it's not that simple, Stephen.
	This is all part of a very careful plan, you see?
	Well, it may be that simple, because we have the man here who admits to the crime himself.
	Yeah, uh, hey Stephen, you actually don't need to pay a dime for that information.
	It was me.
	I did it.
	Dick Molesterson, thanks for taking the time.
	Yeah, Stephen, listen, there's no need to pay him $10 million.
	I am the one, Dick Molesterson, who molested Corey Feldman.
	Okay, that is not true, and that's why you need to go to my Indiegogo campaign.
	It is absolutely true, Stephen, and I have the VHS tapes to prove it, okay?
	Mystery solved.
	I molested Corey Feldman.
	Hard.
	Okay, see, that seems pretty cut and dropped.
	No, it's not.
	And actually, I'm going to release all of the evidence, as well as my personal account, my upcoming memoir, which people can support at my GoFundMe, gofundme.com slash weekend and Corey's.
	No, no, I'm the only one here who needs the funding.
	And I'm looking to raise about $10 million, Stephen.
	No, no, this is absolutely untrue.
	If $12 million are raised, I guarantee a bonus chapter on Macaulay Culkin.
	Corey Feldman and Dick Molesterson, everybody.
	Oh!
	Oh, God!
	No!
	No!
	And that went about pretty much as I expected.
	All right.
	Moving on down the trail.
	This is, I think, the biggest story from the week.
	Also, probably the one that's gotten the least coverage from CNN. Can you believe it?
	Well, okay.
	First, let's set this up, because you've been following this as well.
	The most central proof, for those who don't know, and this is where the question was, if you watch CNN, if you still have cable, have you heard about the Trump-Russia dossier and its relation to the DNC? And how much?
	Comment below.
	I'm not a big pollster, but I'm curious.
	According to polls.
	Because we dig for the news and we're going, why is this not front page?
	So, to set the context, the most central proof of the Trump-Russia collusion is backfiring on the left.
	It was the dossier, they called it, right?
	So this is the one that alleged Trump had directly colluded with the Russians to defeat Clinton.
	And it's also where the more ubiquitous rumors from which they stemmed, like the Russian prostitutes and the golden showers.
	The golden showers!
	At least I was creative.
	Yeah, they were creative.
	That's exactly it.
	It was creative out of thin air.
	Real estate deals that were intended to be bribes.
	This is the one that BuzzFeed obtained, I think, somewhere in January 2017.
	Now, ever since then, the media has nonstop bombarded...
	I mean, listen, I don't need to tell you this, that Russia influenced the United States election.
	They're still interfering in U.S. politics.
	Here, you know this.
	It's the question of whether Russian intervention into U.S. politics, into high-level, top-level U.S. politics, whether it stopped during the campaign.
	Or whether it is still happening right now inside our government.
	I think she has a Russian hairstylist.
	Yes, Mada, this is new trend!
	We will laugh!
	Score one for Mada!
	Also, root for Drago!
	I mean, do you think they, like, fly people over and had them vote in the elections the way they frame it?
	Like, they actually voted in your place.
	Well, it's funny that you say that, because it turns out, then the Washington Post broke the story, this just broke this week, that the Clinton campaign and the DNC had actually funded the Trump dossier.
	The Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC. What exactly did they do?
	Well, I mean, they have a lawyer, and that lawyer went about looking to hire research firms.
	One of the firms that they hired was this company in Washington called Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS, in turn, subcontracted out to Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence officer, to help get information about Trump's relationships in Russia.
	Those reports that Chris Steele produced...
	We're then passed back to the lawyer who was representing the Clinton campaign.
	What we don't really know is how that information was then relayed to the campaign.
	Our understanding from talking to people who are close to the matter is that those actual steel reports were not directly handed to the campaign.
	So we don't really quite understand how the information was passed, who got the information, and obviously we want to know what they did with that information after they received it.
	I can take a wild cast!
	It's not really that difficult, is it?
	But before we get to it, it's important to note that DNC officials have repeatedly, now, for over a year...
	Over and over and over and over and over.
	Denied!
	They funded the report!
	Never happened!
	The only thing they like talking about more than Trump and Russia is daka daka daka.
	And they continue to deny any knowledge of it.
	Take, for instance, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, demon-in-chief right here.
	When did you learn the DNC and the Clinton campaign were behind the dossier?
	I wasn't aware of the Iranians at all.
	And then how could you have learned the DNC and be in the dark about the dossier?
	I wasn't aware of the arrangement.
	Or maybe some aware of the arrangement.
	Otherwise, you're not really in any position of authority with the DNC. Or you're really stupid.
	But that would be sexist, so it wouldn't be presumptuous.
	Stop it.
	Send your sexist complaints, too.
	No, it's fine.
	At G. Morgan Jr.
	He's the wine man.
	For those who don't know, Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele, were heavily connected with the Kremlin.
	Russians participated in creating the dossier.
	Now, to be fair, the Russian lawyer who Trump Jr.
	met with was connected directly with this organization, Fusion GPS. Okay?
	So let's give that.
	Yeah.
	Anybody else bothered that we used a British special agent guy, a spy, to go do this?
	We couldn't even keep it made in America on this dossier?
	Good point.
	I mean, come on.
	Yeah.
	It's crazy.
	America first.
	Let's have our own American spies break the law and violate our own civil rights.
	Hire Ollie North.
	I'm sure he's available.
	So now there are lawsuits, by the way, being brought against Steele.
	Like I said, secret agent man himself.
	Court documents have revealed that Fusion GPS was feeding the Trump-Russia narrative to The Washington Post, Yahoo News, New York Times, New Yorker, and CNN even before the election in, get this, face-to-face meetings with journalists.
	It wasn't just like an email that might have been hacked with WikiLeaks and Podesta talking about meeting behind a pizza parlor.
	It was actually face-to-face.
	This happened.
	Even the New York Times admitted.
	They noted this as of yesterday.
	There has been no public corroboration of the salacious allegations against Mr.
	Trump.
	Nor of the specific claims about coordination between his associates and the Russians.
	None.
	No corroboration of the rumors with President Donald Trump.
	My only problem is they put that at the bottom of the article.
	That should have been the lead.
	You put this whole paragraph in the bibliography.
	Why is it that small, fine print?
	So, now, we can't say there's definitive proof to put anyone behind bars in this case, but no corroboration at all as far as Mr.
	Trump's involvement, but we have tons of evidence that directly refutes the allegations against President Donald Trump, and that is important considering how the media has taken the ball.
	The New York Times even went on to admit some of the dossier's claims have been challenged with supporting evidence.
	That means bullsh**.
	For instance, Mr.
	Trump's longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, produced to rebut the dossier's claim that had secret meetings in Prague with a Russian official last year.
	So, what does all this mean?
	Why does it matter?
	What are you laughing about?
	I don't know.
	I just...
	I love this story.
	He's a potted plant.
	He doesn't need a reason.
	It's like the little shop of horrors over here.
	Were you going to say something?
	I mean, once you prove one of these things false in this article, doesn't that pretty much call into question everything else that they're claiming, especially the golden shower?
	Well, that's what's interesting.
	Proven false.
	Proven.
	Yes, that's what's interesting.
	And if we're going to play by the left's own rules, they've been claiming all year that Trump worked on a professional level.
	He exchanged monies with the Russians to directly interfere in the election.
	But he didn't.
	Only one person did that.
	Or one group, I should say.
	The DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign lawyer directly hired a research firm with ties to Putin in Russia to create a falsified report full of information obtained from the Kremlin to influence the 2016 election and to subsequently delegitimize President Trump.
	You know, their god and hero, Saul Alinsky, would be like, you know, I told you to accuse your putt of doing exactly what you're doing.
	But dear lord, dear lord.
	I didn't know you would actually do it.
	That's what we did.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Hillary Clinton, you're peeing on Russian prostitutes?
	What?
	No!
	They had to get the story from somewhere.
	Don't be more erotic if Trump turned out to be an illegal Mexican immigrant himself.
	That would be great.
	We should dress up for us.
	It's Halloween.
	You know, all kidding aside, they're actually in some pretty big trouble with how they handle the payments for this.
	They actually paid the lawyers.
	Don't use PayPal.
	They actually paid the law firm and didn't, with the FEC, they actually didn't claim it.
	And so there's some big time legal ramifications to that.
	Because it was like 12 point something million that they paid for this.
	So they're in hot water, not just in kind of a PR sense, but they could legally have some big problems.
	Yeah, I know.
	This is what's incredible to me.
	And again, more important is the media is...
	They're nowhere!
	Again, this is an actual, if you're looking for some kind of a red flag, this is it.
	This is it right here.
	If this had happened with President Trump, you're talking about actual, just financial ramifications.
	This is a red flag that stained all your other laundry.
	Did you wash a red flag with the wipes again?
	No.
	I didn't know!
	My fingerprint with Apple Pay wasn't encrypted!
	I had a different server for it.
	I had no idea Ivan Draco was going to kill that nice black man.
	When I paid him $18 billion.
	And you know what's trending on Twitter right now?
	Trump paid $1.75 million or $250,000 more than the past couple of presidents to remodel his Oval Office or the White House.
	That's what's trending and not this.
	I could not give less of a crap.
	But that just shows you what they're doing.
	This should be front page everywhere and it's not.
	Do you realize that Donald Trump blows his nose with that amount of money?
	No, it's our money that he spent doing it.
	It was taxpayer money that he spent doing it.
	Yeah, I know.
	But every headline is almost $2 million.
	He spent $1.5 million, and they give you the Obama stat, like, at the bottom.
	All right, well, you have three guests.
	We have to get going, but I do want you to come, and I want to see how many of you knew about all of this.
	Go check out the sources.
	Read up on these articles.
	How many of you knew before this?
	We have Lauren Southern coming up, and then, of course, a pre-tape with Kevin Sorbo and Phil Robertson.
	This is a Tumblr.
	Some people might try to tell you it's a mug.
	They might scream that it's just as good as a hand-etched mug, over and over and over again.
	They may fill it to the brim with shekels.
	You might even start to believe that this is a mug.
	But it's not.
	This is just a tumbler.
	and asbestos-laden tumbler.
	Bernard Sanders, a man of humble beginnings from Brooklyn, New York.
	A University of Chicago graduate, noted communist, and perennial unemployed couch surfer until his early 40s.
	You know him today as a champion for human rights, income equality, and as the esteemed Senator Sanders.
	But Senator Sanders holds a dark secret.
	For when he consumes his devious transformation potion, he turns into...
	Mr.
	Bernie.
	Unimpeded by logic, critical thinking, or basic impulse control, Mr. Bernie.
	Bernie is an animal of pure instinct, privy to his most primal, carnal, and selfish urges.
	Human right.
	I'm the one percent!
	Fair share!
	Income equality!
	And this month, Mr.
	Bernie has but one mission.
	One fixation.
	Crying out loud!
	It's 2017!
	Why are so many living so high on the hog when others are left clearly without mud club?
	Try Mug Club completely free of charge for the entire month of October at louderwithcrowder.com slash mugclub.
	That's a full three-month trial of Mug Club at louderwithcrowder.com slash mugclub, because anything else would be a violation of human rights.
	All right, a horrible intro, but for a very lovely lady.
	She deserves better than this.
	She deserves better than Hollywood propagandists and Elmer's glue.
	You can follow her at Lauren underscore Southern.
	Thank you so much for being here, Lauren.
	We appreciate it.
	Thank you for having me.
	You two are looking very handsome.
	I mean, creepy, but still good.
	Well, that's how Harvey Weinstein self-described...
	That's how he described himself when he checked out of rehab.
	Creepy, but I don't think they were that opposed to it.
	Come on.
	Let's be real.
	Three day rehab for sex addiction.
	So I reached out to you, it was the last minute.
	I know you've been traveling all over Japan.
	We did a video this week that did pretty well based on Vox and their sort of soft encouragement of censorship on YouTube.
	I didn't realize until halfway through the video that you were actually giving an interview to Vox exclusively.
	I thought they had just pulled from your YouTube video.
	You said, oh, there's more of a story to that.
	So do tell.
	Right, so I first of all find it, I'm such an idiot because I should always record these things on my end, and I always forget, it was a few months ago actually or something that I did this interview, and I was just like, oh whatever, I'll just do a fun interview.
	He mentions at the beginning of the video that he put on this queer shirt to try and trigger me.
	I don't think I could even see it in the interview we were doing.
	You could see the queer, just not the shirt, right.
	Yeah.
	But there's one part particularly in that interview, it was all cut up completely.
	It was like an hour long of talking.
	One part where I talk about Jared Taylor.
	And he had asked me what I think the limit is for censorship on YouTube.
	And I was telling him, well, you know what, sometimes you see videos where it's just people yelling racial slurs, just yelling the N-word or anything.
	And that's kind of That's like graffiti.
	Why even have that?
	I don't see a point to that.
	It's not an argument.
	It's not someone trying to portray something.
	And it's not really censorship to get rid of graffiti.
	I still think it should be allowed, but I'd understand if YouTube got rid of it.
	However, instead of those videos being taken down, what you're seeing is YouTube sandboxing people like Jared Taylor, who...
	Hate him, disagree with him, whatever, fine, but he's actually making an argument and not just screaming racial slurs.
	So he just cut that part of me saying, Jared Taylor is just making an argument.
	I can't believe YouTube's censoring him instead of putting it in contrast with me saying this whole other stuff about it.
	He made me look pretty stupid in a few of those parts.
	I wondered why you would do it because the one thing is we know, and this isn't an insult to your intelligence, but I was like, oh, I wish you hadn't done it because I could have told you that was going to happen.
	This is a guy who refuses to debate ever.
	If it were someone who had a track record of debating, someone you disagree with, and you show up live in real time, but do you think looking back now, you probably won't do that in the future where they have all of the control?
	Looking back, I'm going to record the entire thing from my end and upload it because I made, honestly, I think I did a really good job representing us, but if you're cutting out every second word I say, well, you're going to be able to make it look like I'm saying anything, just like they did in this video.
	Yeah.
	That's what I thought they were going to do, too.
	Because we've repeatedly...
	I mean, we've racked up millions and millions of plays rebutting the Vox videos.
	Particularly this guy.
	Was it Carlos Mendeza?
	Mazza?
	Mazza?
	I don't know.
	Something like that.
	Gabe Cuban who gives his parents heart palpitations.
	That guy.
	And just blocks everybody.
	And so that's why I was sitting there going, oh man.
	You know, Andrew Breitbart was a guy, as a good example, was always willing to get in and stand and bang and trade.
	But he always said, listen, if you have no control over the medium at all, don't put yourself in a position where they can make your argument for you.
	And I could see them doing that with you when I watched this.
	I didn't realize until halfway through the video.
	I was going, well, that's odd.
	I don't remember Lauren doing a video on that.
	Oh, she gave this guy an interview and he butchered it.
	My mindset was they're actually giving a platform for us to present an argument for free speech.
	And if they're doing that, I can't just say no and not present our side.
	But you're totally right.
	They boxed it up.
	They boxed it up hardcore.
	What I did find interesting about this video, though, is I think they're getting smarter.
	He kind of portrayed it in a very sneaky way, where he was trying to be super reasonable, but the end conclusion was still, all of these people are far right and they need to be censored.
	But he made it more reasonable, so usually those kind of videos have extreme dislikes on them.
	They've gotten a lot more sneaky and smart about how they're implementing or promoting their censorship.
	Well, I think they probably see, like you've talked about, Jared, the like-to-dislike ratio, and they have to try and be less bleak.
	I think Vox has always been very sneaky.
	I think they've always been very good at hiding their arguments and manipulating statistical information and manipulating data to present their arguments.
	Like the gun control video we debunked.
	They've always been good at that.
	I can't see the buttons.
	Here we go.
	I know.
	You can't.
	I guess.
	Sorry, you walked into a disaster, Lorne.
	You wouldn't feel so uncomfortable if you had a wildly inappropriate costume yourself.
	Yeah, I understand exactly.
	And I used to be that way.
	I'm just going to go on anywhere that will provide a platform.
	And then you realize, as you become more popular, I don't have enough time in the day to do it.
	And you have to make sure it's a platform where they can't totally manipulate what it is that you say.
	As long as you have a platform to present your ideas...
	Win, lose, or draw, you know, you can sleep at night.
	Unfortunately, Vox has no interest in doing that, which is so funny because in that video, he says, you know, they have no duty to fact check independent bloggers or face up to debate.
	I'm like, what?
	That's you!
	That's you!
	Did you ask him to debate you?
	Oh, many times, yeah, on Twitter, just like, hey, this is incorrect.
	You know, I think I'm blocked.
	Everyone's blocked by this guy.
	He's known for blocking people.
	Okay, well, he sent me an email thanking me for doing the interview with him.
	So I think I'm going to send him an email back and ask him if he'll do a debate with you.
	Yeah, sure.
	You can come on the show.
	Because that would be very fun to see.
	I would love to have him on here.
	I think the reason he conducted an interview, you know, Vox has $300 million in backing.
	People need to understand this.
	It's not like, okay, Lauren Southern versus, you know, bisexual Cuban who happens to speak at Vox.
	It's Lauren Southern versus $300 million in backing from NBC and other corporate sponsors.
	Not sponsors, people who are actual investors, actual equity stakeholders in the company.
	And they're sneaking, presenting it as though it's an independent guy, and it's not.
	And just so people know, I literally forgot about this interview because it was so long ago.
	That's how much cutting they did in this interview.
	That's how much time they put into stringing together this narrative.
	Unlike us, where you'll make a video every day, just your honest thoughts, here's what happened, here's the facts.
	They have to spend months stringing together the narrative perfectly because they know their ideas aren't quite right.
	They know censorship isn't exactly moral.
	So in order to convince the public it is, It's going to take a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of cutting up people's actual words.
	Yes, that's a good point.
	And I think it's especially important with the left because, you know, we see this all the time, whether it's Bernie Sanders or the Young Turks, they see, or we saw this with Bernie exactly, where he said, here are the facts, a majority of, as though a poll is a fact.
	And so the left believes that if a majority of people want something, It is therefore democracy, ergo it is the right argument.
	And right now, their arguments as it relates to free speech, as it relates to open speech online, I should say, I hate to use the term free speech because First Amendment businesses, it gets complicated.
	It is a losing argument.
	It's an unpopular argument.
	And that's the first time for them when their whole worldview is based on this pseudo-populism, it's tough to realize that most people don't agree with you.
	Yeah, and one thing I would like to bring up with you, because they say independent vloggers have no incentive to fact check.
	I actually think it's different because you've apologized, and I know I've apologized sometimes for getting things wrong, and the reason is because your audience calls you on it, so you have more of an incentive than anyone.
	Absolutely.
	Well, we don't have these one individual with an agenda that's just backing us with whatever amount of millions of dollars like Vox has.
	They really don't have an incentive to back check when the public don't have to hold them accountable.
	The public can scream and whine as much as they want and they can get as much dislikes as they want and they'll still have their millions backing them.
	I completely agree.
	It's the opposite.
	The internet will reject you if you repeatedly give them false information.
	The internet will throw you out.
	You will no longer get the views you did.
	4chan, whoever it is, will just tear you a new one.
	You'll have a million skeptic channels that'll just rip you to shreds.
	And you are way more connected with the people as an independent blogger than a lot of these personalities like Rachel Maddow on the news.
	It's almost like an above-you thing where people can't go and really send Rachel Maddow emails.
	She doesn't have Patreon backers.
	She doesn't really reply to any small critics on Twitter.
	It's a totally different world.
	It is a different role.
	As a matter of fact, you'll have all those skeptic channels and people who hate you even if you do try and fact check yourself.
	So it happens no matter what.
	Were you going to say something, Jake?
	I was going to say the big issue is that the people who find you on the internet also know how to use the internet.
	This is true.
	I'm like, Grandpa, watch the CNN. I knew it!
	I knew it!
	Trump did it all!
	I knew it!
	I don't like that Kirsten Powers on Fox News.
	I'm going to email the man who sells the gold.
	I think he's the one.
	They know they can reach you right away.
	But listen, I don't need you to set up a debate for me.
	That's several steps removed.
	If it happens, great.
	People are always welcome on this show.
	I would love to see you and him actually have a conversation in real time because I think that would be really interesting where you could maybe ask him about the things that he didn't include with your interview.
	I wouldn't bet on it, but I'd love to see that.
	Where's the best place for people to find you so they can actually watch your independent content, Lauren?
	Absolutely.
	I'll try that for sure.
	And they can find me at Lauren underscore Southern on Twitter or just look up my YouTube channel, Lauren Southern.
	Lauren Southern.
	We have next, I believe we have, oh, do we have, who do we have next?
	Ooh.
	Ah.
	Ooh.
	Ah.
	It's done.
	And now for Barely Legal with Bill Richmond, sponsored by Mug Club. .
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	We have a question this week from Dan from Mississippi.
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	By comparison, libel is the written communication of false statements that harm the reputation of another.
	It falls under the umbrella of defamation.
	The other version of defamation is spoken or oral, and it's called slander.
	So, if I were to come to your house and tell your family that you have the same amount of IQ points as you do teeth in your head, and if that weren't true, that might be slander.
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	He's all over the place right now.
	But probably not for the reasons that he would like to be, but I grew up watching him.
	You can follow him at KSorbs.
	I've met him a couple times.
	I don't think he remembers me because everyone's coming up and always fawning over him.
	That's what happens when you are Mr.
	Kevin Sorbo.
	Thank you for being here, sir.
	Thank you.
	I hope you love my little lovely hotel background that I'm at right here in New York City right now.
	I do love the hotel background.
	Your background's a little cooler.
	It looks like a cool little man cave going there.
	It is a little cooler.
	I wouldn't use the term man cave just because legally we're not supposed to say that, apparently.
	Sexual harassment suits, you know, behind the scenes.
	Yeah, Z. Yes, exactly.
	Speaking of men and not men, I grew up, I watched you as Hercules, and I don't know if you remember, I don't know if it was a spinoff or had anything to do with your show, but in Canada, then there was young Hercules, and it was Ryan Gosling.
	It was.
	But he's tiny.
	And so, as a kid, I remember being sorely disappointed.
	Did you ever visit that set and think, like, this kid?
	Well, he came on the show...
	As...
	A cadet at the school that I grew up on, that Hercules was trained on as a youth.
	And so I worked with him.
	And I remember going home to my wife and said, I just worked with this kid.
	He's only like 20 years old.
	He's really, he's good.
	There was something about him.
	He's got a charismatic thing about him.
	And then when they picked up the show, I didn't really think about it.
	You're right, back then, because he's in good shape now.
	But back then, he was a skinny little kid.
	But I remember when the show got canceled, we went out to dinner before he was coming back to America.
	And I would...
	I said, Ryan, you're 20 years old.
	You're a good actor.
	You'll do fine.
	And now look at this guy today.
	He's all over the place.
	Just advise him to put on some Timberlands, give himself a few inches of height, and then he can do Hercules.
	I just remember, like, you know, you're lean.
	I remember meeting you.
	You're about 6'3".
	I had a friend who dated him in Cornwall, Ontario.
	I just remember as a kid going like, Hercules, come on.
	Come on.
	I wasn't so much concerned with performance so much as the guy wanted to be Hercules.
	Speaking of Herculean ability, the sexual harassment in Hollywood.
	You weren't coming on for this originally, but you just told the story.
	I was reading it this morning about Versace sexually harassing you.
	It's pretty blatant, the story.
	Can you explain it for people who don't know?
	I've got to tell the story because it's funny how it wasn't a Hollywood reporter.
	What was it in?
	Variety?
	I can't remember now.
	It's everywhere now.
	I did them on the Adam Carolla show, and they want to talk about it.
	To me, it's in my book.
	And the way they write it, they make it look like, oh my god, it was so traumatic to me.
	I had three and a half years in Europe when I was doing the modeling thing.
	So I'm living in Europe.
	I meet with Versace.
	He liked me.
	He puts me in his fashion shows, men and women, because of my height.
	I'm in the women's shows because they're 6'1", and they're heels, and I'm 6'3".
	They look like a midget guy walking with these tall women.
	And then I get invited to this dinner.
	Huge party.
	Big party.
	And there's like 80 people there.
	And I meet Versace.
	And I meet Pavarotti.
	I meet Richard Gere.
	I meet all these people.
	And I get called to another dinner later on.
	I said, what the heck?
	I'm going to go.
	And my girlfriend at the time said...
	You know he's probably going to hit on you.
	And I said, you know what?
	The guy's already mentioned he likes me from my – possibly do his campaign.
	Why not?
	That's what we're out there for anyway.
	Get these big campaigns, B and GQ. So I go to that party.
	Then I go to another dinner party.
	It's about 12.
	Then the fourth time, it's just him and myself.
	Yeah, that's not a party.
	That's just – That's just a date.
	Well, we're sitting at this restaurant.
	We weren't in some, like, private room.
	There were people all around.
	And all of a sudden, his hand goes on my thigh.
	And I said, Johnny, come on, give me a break.
	You know that I'm straight.
	You know.
	He goes, I know.
	That's why I like you in life.
	He goes, what a girl you have.
	He thought you were about to get.
	That's it.
	I'm attractive to that, he said.
	And then he said, he goes, in life you must make love to the dog and to the cat and to the girl and to the boy.
	You must make love to everything.
	It's all about life.
	And I just laughed as he's saying this to me.
	I said, you know, buddy, all my life I've been on this road and you're on this road.
	Without missing a beat, he says, I build a bridge.
	And the bridge is my wiener.
	I never got his campaign, but he still remained friends.
	Is that sexual harassment?
	I guess it is, but I knew what it was.
	No, that is sexual harassment, Kevin.
	There's no doubt about it.
	So I'm not going to worry about it and think, oh my gosh, my career is over.
	Because I knew I wanted to be an actor anyway.
	The whole modeling thing, only because I was dating a model at the time.
	I was going to move to L.A. from Minnesota, but this was a sidetrack to my life, which I don't regret, because I've got to spend three and a half years in Europe.
	And it was kind of cool to see how socialism can destroy countries.
	I was raised in Montreal, and Nat KJ was just there for the first time recently.
	He was like, I had no idea.
	No, no, Montreal, a beautiful city to visit.
	A beautiful city.
	Just a spirit of brokenness in socialism.
	And taxes are up even more, the sales taxes, from when I last left, because Harper was still Prime Minister when I lived there.
	But I do find it interesting...
	It was like the Pepe Le Pew.
	You're like, I'm straight.
	And he's like, yes!
	Talk dirty to me!
	And here's one thing I will say that I really respect about this.
	Because if you...
	Okay, just so you know, that's sexual harassment.
	Alright, I appreciate your playing code with it.
	I'm a big enough guy not to let it...
	I mean, I wasn't distraught.
	No, no, and that's what I appreciate about you.
	Because you have these other celebrities out now who talk about the sexual harassment, but they talk about it as though it's traumatic, and then they don't name names.
	Whereas you, you were very nonchalant about it.
	You're like, yeah, listen, this happened.
	Versace, if I'd have let him, would have reached up, grabbed my balls.
	I told him not to.
	I didn't get the gig.
	But you named the name, and you didn't play the victim.
	Have you noticed that's a stark contrast to everyone else coming out?
	Like, nobody ever says...
	I did it!
	Whether it's wine themed...
	It's 20 years later, it became really...
	It's just drawn over it.
	20 years later, all of a sudden they're having PTSD flashbacks.
	This is very unique in the way you presented this story.
	Have you noticed that?
	Well, I think, yeah, I think it's, I just think it's funny how, I mean, I'm sure that I'm going to get people coming at me now and I'm going to laugh at it because it's a joke.
	It's in my book, True Strength.
	It's in the book.
	Check it out.
	I'm not blasting.
	I'm not being mean to him.
	To me, it's like, I respected his talent.
	I loved his suits.
	Are you kidding me?
	The best suits around are Versace's.
	So it was, it was, I just thought, I just think it's kind of funny, but you know, they're going to take anything.
	If you have a different point of view, if you're a conservative, and they're going to blow it up and make it look like, even though they'll do the same thing, but it's okay if they do it.
	But I do wonder why now they bring it up.
	Like you said, if it's in your book, why didn't anyone care back then?
	Was it just because, you know, straight, white, tall male, you think?
	Well, they didn't read my book.
	Except for Satya, he had it by his nightstand.
	Oh, yes.
	I remember.
	I built a bridge.
	Hey, final question before I want to move on to the other projects.
	I've heard this, you know, having been an actor for a good portion of my life before I started doing stand-up, that more male models are straight than actors.
	It's actually rare for male models to be gay.
	It's usually actors who are gay.
	I have no experience, clearly, in the male modeling world.
	Was that your experience?
	It's just an aside.
	Um...
	I don't know what the stats are, but I don't disagree with that because almost pretty much every single guy that I met over in Europe, in Italy, in France, in London, wherever, as far as I knew, they were straight.
	There was only one guy that told me after about a year, he goes, by the way, I'm gay.
	I went, what?
	Really?
	I had no idea.
	And then he reached up your leg and said, I'll build a bridge.
	Yeah, you know what?
	I can't disagree with that.
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	It's like male cheerleaders.
	They're the straightest of them all.
	They're the smartest of them all.
	So smart.
	Those guys are brilliant.
	When people used to mock George W. Bush, like, he was a male cheerleader.
	I'm like, did you see where he went to school?
	Such a player.
	Did you see the ladies?
	Okay, so we can move on from this.
	I'm glad there's no post-traumatic stress with Versace.
	I'm doing okay.
	You can send him my way.
	I'll build a bridge if he gives me some suits.
	Okay.
	Look, I grew up watching I Dream of Jeannie, and I met Barb Reardon years ago, and I told her I was only like seven when I watched his show, and I knew I'd have no problem with my sexual identities.
	Yes, yes, very quickly.
	Okay, I'm done.
	Yes, exactly, as opposed to Naki Jarrett, who was just looking at the red Power Ranger thinking, okay...
	This is my kind of, this is my bag.
	Tell us about your, we don't have a ton of time, but your latest project, you know, Let There Be Light.
	A lot of people now who are younger, who maybe weren't introduced to you with your previous work like Hercules, this is kind of how they've come to know you in a lot of faith-based works.
	What was the transition like?
	And then of course that leads into Let There Be Light.
	Well, you know, it wasn't really a transition.
	I mean, I did Hercules Seven Years, which was certainly a family-friendly show.
	Then I did Andromeda Five Years up there in Vancouver.
	I lived in the B.C. for five years, loved it.
	And then since then, I've shot over 50 movies.
	There's probably 15 I wish I didn't do.
	But I did a movie back in 2011 called What If?
	And it was by the Pure Flix guys, the same guys that did a really successful movie with them called God's Not Dead.
	Right.
	Soul Surfer, the Bethany Hamilton story.
	So that's kind of a road I wasn't planning on going down.
	I am a Christian.
	I am a conservative.
	But I wasn't on purpose saying, okay, now I'm just going to do Christian movies.
	But once...
	Once I came out of the conservative closet, the tolerant world of Hollywood stopped calling me.
	You know, the ones who stand for tolerance.
	And so I've stayed alive doing, you know, independent movies.
	This movie, Left Every Light, is just an amazing movie.
	My wife wrote it, co-wrote it with Dan Gordon.
	Dan Gordon is a big Hollywood writer.
	He wrote The Hurricane with Denzel Washington.
	He wrote The Passenger 57, which he sniped White Earp with Kevin Costner.
	They came in, wrote this.
	About less than two weeks after I read the script, I get a call from Sean Hannity.
	And Sean says, Kevin, I want to do a movie with you.
	I like your faith-based movies.
	Do you have one?
	Yep, we got one.
	Flew to New York.
	We pitched him.
	He wrote a check right then and there.
	Less than six months later, we're filming this movie, and now it's done, and it opens this weekend.
	He's not starring in it, correct, Sean Hannity?
	He's in the movie a little bit, as himself.
	Okay, I was going to say, that might be a little rough, because I've done some bits with Sean.
	No, I'm the lead in it.
	My wife is the female lead in it.
	Actually, my two boys, who I'm going to call to come in here because you have huge fans with my two sons.
	Oh, jeez.
	They've got to poke their heads in and say hi here.
	Get them watching somebody else, Kevin.
	Get them in a room with Versace for all I care.
	Build some bridges, for the love of God.
	Turn the dial.
	This is a great movie.
	People have got to go to lettherebelightmovie.com.
	Lettherebelightmovie.com.
	We're an independent film.
	We're a $3 million movie.
	That's like catering on Pirates of the Caribbean.
	We don't have $150 million to throw out there for all these promotion stuff.
	People stop me all the time.
	It used to be because of Hercules.
	Now they stop me all the time because of my faith-based movies.
	Please make more.
	And I said, well, then you have to support them.
	So please go to LetThereBeLightMovie.com, support the movie.
	If it's not in your town, you can go to the theater and say, we'll fill this sucker up, and they'll bring it there, I promise.
	Yeah, and a lot of people are doing that.
	Again, it's Let There Be Light.
	It comes to theaters, or if it's not in your theater, this Friday.
	And, yeah, but we'll have you back and talk about that, because we have Phil Robertson on today's show as well.
	He wants to go.
	And he knows this all too well, coming out in The Tolerant Left.
	They went after him.
	So it just so happens that you're a two-story correspondent.
	That's Let There Be Light film at KSORBS. LetThereBeLightMovie.com.
	Damn it, I ruined the plug.
	I'm trying to build bridges.
	I'm not as good.
	Let There Be Light.
	He's going to poke his head in here right now.
	Oh, there we go.
	Okay, before the break, the music's coming in.
	Look at him.
	And Brayden's in the movie playing my son.
	There you go.
	You make good-looking children.
	That's another skill.
	You're just full of male modeling and acting and making humans.
	We'll be right back after this.
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	Hey there, handsome.
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	I'm talking about that snazzy t-shirt.
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	Let the world see.
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	There we go.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Oh, now.
	Someone's trying to be a sneaky fellow.
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	Wear that bad boy loud and proud.
	Nothing to be ashamed of here.
	Say, what's the big idea?
	Stop kidding around and show everybody your swag.
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	All right.
	Very glad to have our next guest.
	Now, before I bring him on, I want to run a clip.
	This is for people out there.
	If you're a mug club or if you're a subscriber to CRTV, it's the latest show announced.
	You guys know him, of course, as Happy, Happy, Happy from Duck Dynasty.
	Notorious or just famous, depending on where you line up.
	Let's see a clip of this now available for people at CRTV.
	Let me tell you a story.
	I'm driving home and I see a dark object in the middle of the road.
	you It was a grizzly bear just stalking him.
	All I saw was a white flash come at my face.
	Huh?
	And then I blacked out.
	The woods, they're always quiet.
	There's no one here but me That looks intense Looks like Breaking Bad-esque.
	Looks like Breaking Bad with beards.
	Maybe Phil Robertson goes on a drug spree.
	You don't know.
	I highly doubt it.
	You can follow him on the Twitter at DuckCommanderPR.
	The leader of the Robertson family, Mr.
	Robertson, Phil Robertson, how are you, sir?
	Doing well.
	Well, we're glad to have you here.
	So this show, like I said, looks intense.
	Now, you obviously kind of took a hiatus from sort of, I guess, broadcast your own program after Duck Dynasty.
	What made you want to come out and do this?
	And how is it different?
	Like, what are we going to see from Phil Robertson that people haven't seen before that it's now unfiltered?
	Well, my oldest son said, Dad, he said, when someone catches you on a cell phone, And you say a few words or offer a little advice.
	We noticed that usually there are a lot of people who respond to that, as in millions.
	Yeah.
	He then said, therefore, Dad, you need to talk more.
	And I said, well...
	Figure out how I can do that and show it to me and we'll talk it over.
	You have to remember, I'm not computer savvy.
	I've never been on the internet.
	Me knowingly clicked on to it.
	I don't fool with that, nor cell phones.
	I'm sort of illiterate when it comes to cell phones or computers.
	Well, there probably aren't a ton of them out in the woods, but that's got to feel good.
	Most kids are not telling their dad, like, hey, dad, I need you to talk more.
	Shut up, dad, stop!
	So that's got to feel good.
	A little unusual, but I said, okay, let's talk more.
	I said, hey, figure out if we're going to do this, figure out how you get a little revenue stream, and we'll try to get a few words out to America.
	I think they need a few.
	So they took it from there.
	That's an important point because a lot of people want to hear what you have to say.
	Duck Dynasty sort of...
	I will tell you this.
	I don't have cable, okay?
	So kind of like you with television.
	I was not a viewer of Duck Dynasty because I haven't had cable my entire adult life.
	I stumbled on it.
	Actually, the day after my wedding.
	So we were waiting before we left for our honeymoon.
	We were in a hotel and it was raining.
	There wasn't much to do.
	And I watched it and I said, huh, it's just a reality show where people are decent.
	And then it hit me.
	This is very bizarre.
	It's a reality show where people are decent.
	And that's where it registered with a lot of people.
	And then you were run out on the rails from the entertainment industry, I'm putting this in quotes here, simply for being decent.
	Do you feel like you were kind of a landmark there?
	Because it was really striking how most of America reacted to your comments versus the publications and media.
	Well, the guy walks up to me in a magazine interview on how that got started.
	And he asked me, did I believe homosexual behavior was a sin?
	And I quoted 1 Corinthians 6, 9, and 10.
	Don't be deceived.
	Neither the sexual immoral, the idolaters, the adulterers, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, thieves, greedy, drunkards, slanderers, or swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
	And I just let that...
	That was my answer.
	I just quoted a Bible verse.
	Amazingly, it hit the news media that I was a low-down, sorry, good-for-nothing.
	And I basically was thinking, well, they're arguing with God here.
	I just gave them a Bible verse.
	But the news media didn't know it was a Bible verse.
	So two weeks later, they finally find out it's a Bible verse.
	By that time, the public...
	When I got fired, they told me later, they said, Mr.
	Robinson, we didn't actually fire you.
	We put you on what we call an indefinite hiatus.
	I said, yeah, I read that.
	I said, I looked up hiatus and it said a gap in the proceedings.
	I said, I think you sent me down the road.
	Yeah.
	Only in Hollywood is 2,000-year-old information shocking.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I think the Weinsteins could get on that and be like, hey, listen, it seems he was quoting a blogger named Corinthian.
	I believe the second.
	I'm not sure.
	Can someone get a fact checker on this?
	And they didn't.
	All I have to say is be careful when you quote Bible verses in America because you can hit the road in a heartbeat.
	What surprises me is this wasn't...
	This wasn't news in the sense like anybody who knew about Duck Dynasty, you're a Christian conservative family.
	I mean, it's pretty obvious, if not from the beard.
	Let's be real here, by the way.
	Congratulations, I can't grow one.
	I look like a freak.
	But it's pretty obvious.
	It just seems as though this was, again, selective outrage.
	The magazine writer, I think it was GQ, it might have been Esquire, I don't know, decided, oh, this is, I'm going to avoid swindlers and thieves.
	And regardless of people even watching right now, whether they agree or not, said, Oh, I'm going to pick the outrage today that Phil Robertson has a problem with homosexuals.
	No one who would have watched the show, this is why I think it's so important for people to see your show and subscribe there at CRTV, no one who watched Duck Dynasty was offended by it.
	That's what's so weird to me.
	Not at all.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, not at all.
	You have to remember, what's amazing is everyone was shocked after all the smoke cleared because they said, Mr.
	Robertson, did you hear from any group The other nine groups, ten sins, but only the homosexuals hollered, and I was thinking, well, it looked like Washington D.C. would have called me swindlers, slanderers, but they didn't call, so I'm thinking, well, maybe I didn't hit them all.
	Yes, exactly.
	I think they're going, hold on a second.
	The Clintons have that in a dossier.
	Let's just do the homosexuals.
	That's politically expedient today.
	Let me ask you this.
	So now you have the show, Into the Woods.
	What can people expect with this?
	How is it different from Duck Dynasty?
	Because obviously that's this major network where whether you guys want to say things or not, it's pretty apparent now there were things that they didn't want to be broadcast.
	What can people expect when you just go into the woods?
	Are you just going to shoot stuff and say things?
	No, this could be a little more intense.
	You have to remember...
	In our culture today, there's so many divorces, there's so many broken homes.
	Miss Kay and I, every day, deal with people that I noticed Trump today is declaring war on people on opioids.
	Well, Miss Kay and I, we deal, we go to the rehabs, to the prisons, and to all the people who come from All over the nation, they drive down, they hitchhike down, they get on a bus and come down.
	We counsel them and we try to get them to where they turn away from drug use, OPRs, heroin, crystal meth.
	So on an ongoing basis, these are the people we work with.
	We point them to Jesus and say, look, You can be forgiven.
	I know you're in the rehab.
	What you need is to be redeemed along with rehabilitation.
	There's a difference.
	No, that's important.
	And you can only do it, right?
	The people you're dealing with are, again, the people you would list from that Corinthians verse.
	Swindlers, stealers, drunkards, all of these people.
	And you can only help them.
	You can only help them.
	Let's get rid of even the spiritual side for people who watch who are atheists.
	Let's just talk rehabilitation.
	If you're recognizing, first step, acknowledging a problem.
	That would mean, I'm a thief.
	I should probably get on that.
	I'm a drunk.
	I should get on that.
	You need to judge.
	That's the chill.
	That's the chill, dude.
	That's it.
	And boy, we had plenty of listeners and plenty of water.
	Get out of me.
	Salt water made us.
	I'm like, salt water?
	So we begin there, and we just morph out.
	Are you liable to see a guy like an astrophysicist?
	He'll be riding along with me, you know?
	And we'll let the astrophysicist.
	I know some.
	So you've got to remember, I'm a C-plus man.
	But every once in a while, I run with A-plus men.
	Just to hear what they have to say.
	Well, you're selling yourself short because I've heard some stories about you.
	I mean, even football, people have to pull that out of you.
	It was a monster.
	A monster.
	For people who don't know, a lot of our audience, they're very young.
	They don't know how you, you know, Terry Bradshaw ended up afterward only being fortunate enough because of your spot that was vacant.
	You're very humble in this.
	You're much, much smarter and also a much better athlete than most people know.
	Remember, I just concluded that it would be much safer to chase ducks than to have large, violent men chasing me.
	You understand what I'm saying?
	I do understand, but I know the coach was none too happy about it because he had an arm.
	The chase is not the problem.
	It's when they catch you, that's when the problem comes up.
	Yes, I can imagine.
	And then you can't be an astrophysicist because you've been clocked in the head one too many times.
	There you go.
	Maybe they had leather helmets.
	None too protective.
	You would think about that, Jared.
	You'd think they got on that quicker.
	Like, ah, this leather's not really protecting him from that 300-pound man.
	Really?
	All right.
	Mr.
	Robertson, we do have to get going here and wrap this program up today.
	Where is the best place for people to watch and follow this new show?
	I know some folks are excited.
	CRTV.com.
	That's what they told me to say.
	Remember, I'm a computer illiterate.
	I'm trying to get these words down,.com and all this kind of stuff.
	Somebody asked me, by the way, how do you function without operating a cell phone or a computer?
	My answer is...
	Very peacefully.
	Yes, I can imagine.
	When people say, ah, you know, Phil can't be reached right now.
	Oh, what, he has it on airplane mode?
	No, no, he is airplane mode.
	He doesn't have a cell phone.
	I'm jealous.
	So jealous.
	That's it.
	Well, you know what?
	It probably comes with a lot less complications.
	That is at Duck Commander PR. You can watch it on CRTV for multiple members and subscribers.
	Mr.
	Robertson, thank you so much.
	We appreciate it, brother.
	And we're going to wrap this show up because there's some music.
	There we go.
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	Phil Robertson, Kevin Sorbo, Lauren Southern.
	Great show.
	I can't get my headphones dropped in my bucket.
	Your headphones dropped in your bucket?
	By the way, who is Soundguy Edward?
	Soundguy Edward.
	No, get back there.
	Get this guy.
	Dear Lord, Soundguy Edward is an unnamed Hollywood pedophile.
	Yeah, of course he is.
	Okay.
	That's pretty much what I thought.
	It just reminded me, you know, being as fat as Harvey Weinstein and the floating problem, when I was a kid, you remember those, like, floaty belts?
	You remember those?
	Yeah, yeah, they were awesome.
	You can talk, Gerald.
	I said just don't interrupt my closing set.
	You can talk now.
	I was told not to say.
	I was told to sit here quietly and look like a gay middle-aged guy.
	Did you remember those floaty belts when you were a kid?
	Yeah.
	Like, they were the most dangerous thing I can think of.
	I remember as a kid, you'd have to kind of swing yourself, tip over, and then you're upside down with your legs kicking, and there's no way to get back.
	I lost six friends that way.
	That's true.
	Jared's the guy tipping them over under the water.
	Two Venus flytraps and a fern.
	The fern gully mascot should not have gone that way.
	It's hilarious.
	You deserved more.
	Oh, okay.
	This is a story people have been asking me about.
	And by the way, we tweeted out who was the winner for the costume contest.
	We're disappointed.
	You can do more.
	No, um...
	Bernie Sanders was on my flight.
	We went to Burlington, Vermont to shoot a video.
	It's not out yet.
	And Bernie Sanders was on my flight.
	You can see here, this is him.
	And it's just so iconic.
	He was sitting right at, he was priority boarding and seated right at the, look at the drape, the dividing line between first class and him.
	And you know that's a point of pride for him.
	He's basically in first class without the snacks.
	Right.
	And every time they came by with the free drinks, he was on his iPad and he did this.
	He was like...
	And he tried to go back nonchalantly.
	I picture this guy who can't resist tipping his feet over the line a little bit like...
	What was that?
	He had no carry-on.
	No carry-on.
	No check back.
	But he also didn't have a briefcase, so no work was being done.
	He was flying back from Burlington to D.C., I should say.
	I had a layover in D.C. That's normal.
	And, you know, I texted you guys, and I'm like, hey, he's on the plane.
	I'm like, oh my gosh, you have to do something.
	You have to mess up.
	I'm like, I'm not going to mess with him.
	You have to get a selfie.
	So I changed into my Socialisms for Figs shirt, naturally, in the airport.
	By the way, if you've never changed in an airplane bathroom...
	Guaranteed way to end up like...
	I just left out on a plane.
	Tommy gun.
	You have it just at the...
	But it was in my carry-on.
	So I put it on, and I was planning on just getting a selfie with him.
	This was the night after the Ted Cruz debate.
	And I just...
	I couldn't...
	He walked off the plane.
	And I tell you, it was like a painting.
	It was so sad.
	Everyone walked one way, and he walked down this hallway.
	And it wasn't like it was a hallway that, you know, there were no guards around him.
	He just was walking alone.
	And the guy was walking alone down a hallway, barely able to move...
	And I just said, I can't.
	I can't.
	So you go go trigger shirt for nothing.
	Yeah, I know.
	I put it on and I told you something I can't do it.
	It's like finding your fiercest rival and you have the dagger and he's just sleeping.
	You're like, I can't.
	It was midnight.
	He was tired.
	And here's the thing.
	I don't hate Bernie Sanders.
	I really don't.
	I think his ideas are wrong.
	I think his ideas stem from an evil ideology.
	They suck!
	But I would much rather host him on the show or have some kind of a debate.
	It doesn't matter who it is.
	I wouldn't go up and just harass somebody.
	Unless it had been somebody who would harass me first.
	But anyways, so Bernie Sanders was on my flight.
	I know a lot of people think missed opportunity.
	I think, you know, I'd probably be upset if someone just came up to me and sandbagged me.
	But then I go back and forth like, you know, he also wants to take all my stuff!
	I love your honesty.
	I was so conflicted.
	I don't know what to do.
	Can you tell me what you thought if I should have done something?
	I think it's hilarious that he was there.
	I just felt so bad for him.
	If Kim Jong-un were here, I wouldn't like him, but I wouldn't be like...
	Piss off Kim Jong and kick him down a cliff.
	I still probably feel bad because he's so little.
	I think Cenk's the only guy that you would do that to.
	Well, Cenk, he forced my hand.
	And as I talked about on Joe Rogan, I'm never going to do that again.
	I felt bad doing it.
	Jared knows that.
	But he had called me out before and then offered no recourse with debate.
	I thought it was so cowardly.
	This was the only way it could ever happen.
	So that was a very special situation and people know it.
	Anyway, this also ties me to something really sad.
	We were in Montreal recently.
	Yeah, we were.
	My first time.
	This was your first time there.
	First off, were you surprised at all when you went?
	Because this was your first time, and you did seem surprised.
	I was surprised.
	I mean, just aesthetically, it felt so much more like Europe.
	Just even aesthetically...
	You know, much less culturally speaking.
	Yeah.
	So I thought that was really interesting.
	I mean, they're so close to the, you know, what, like 40 minutes into the border?
	Yeah.
	And it's like, wow, we're in Europe.
	And like you said, 10 minutes from the, less than 10 minutes when we stopped at that place to exchange, you know, exchange monies, they didn't speak a word of English.
	Not a word of English.
	10 minutes from the Vermont border.
	In a really crappy gas station.
	Now I know why you're so fixated on, like, nice gas stations.
	Because this was sad as F. Imagine how small your world must be.
	And that's why when people say, oh, but they love their healthcare more.
	Yeah, but these are people who live 10 minutes from the United States and have never learned the language.
	If you were to ask them, they would say, I'm happier only speaking French.
	And not French that even people in France can understand, mind you.
	Only in rural Quebec.
	That's what they had to understand.
	People who live like 10 miles into the border, I'm like, why wouldn't you just like...
	Why are you here?
	I don't understand.
	We clocked it on the way back.
	It was four miles from the border.
	It makes no sense to me.
	You don't speak a word of English and you're paying half your minimum wage salary in taxes.
	I don't know how they do it.
	I can tell you exactly what it is.
	And that's kind of what I've been deliberating over this week.
	Enough, good enough is good enough.
	And that's the big difference between, you know, when people talk about, I just watched a debate recently, I can't remember who it was, they were talking about conservatism versus liberalism.
	You know, going back to Quebec, to Montreal, great food, some beautiful areas, but you would probably say, being there, I would have much more in common being raised with someone from Europe than most kids in the United States.
	Oh yeah, by far.
	Certainly more than anyone in the U.S. Yeah, yeah.
	And I definitely, when I moved to the States, it was much more of a culture shock than I would even say.
	I would say where I was raised is much more similar to Ireland when we visited than it would be to, say, Texas or California.
	Yeah, certainly the culture of people.
	But it's a culture of good enough is good enough.
	And these people don't learn English.
	They're living right beyond the border.
	I had friends there who just seemed so broken over being in this place.
	Taxes have gone up.
	Sales taxes.
	It's one of those issues, these people have never thought of it.
	And that's why I always say, it goes back to any time people get in debates, whether it's Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders or recently, I can't remember who it was, some kind of a YouTube debate, saying, well, actually, people in these countries, when asked, much prefer their health care.
	Well, yeah, but these people also are paying 16% sales tax, and they're still paying for 70% of the drugs they want.
	If you ask anyone, if you ask someone in Quebec saying, hey, are you happy you're not speaking English?
	Are you happy that you've never been to the United States of America?
	A majority of them are going to say yes.
	That's a subjective question.
	It's about giving an opinion.
	The fact that a majority of people give a specific opinion doesn't mean that it's good.
	It doesn't mean that it's right.
	And also, we talk about this with some of your friends, you know, it's...
	There's a big difference between the people who know and the people who don't know.
	People who have kind of been red-pilled, and it's like, you know what?
	They're broken because they know this doesn't have to be this way.
	They know there's a different world out there, and they've seen it, and they've tasted it.
	That's why, you know, Sven Computer's here.
	Sven Computer.
	I can't even say his name, but it's here.
	Yeah, I'm not surprised.
	The plant is heavy.
	It wears on you.
	This is a tiring-ass costume.
	When a guy came up when we were there, a few people who came up who were fans, we thought, oh no, Montreal, this is for sure they're going to be trying to punch us or something.
	And they were the most passionate fans.
	They were like, man, listen, I know, man, I know.
	I mean, no one here, my family doesn't get it.
	And that's what we say, too.
	Typically, our average viewer is a male, 18 to 35.
	But when we get a woman who comes up They are very, very passionate.
	Like at the Gosnell play, still going on in New York City, by the way.
	I highly recommend you go check it out.
	Also, Owen Benjamin's recent stand-up special.
	I promise them I'll get their plugs in.
	Or when we were in New York, every single person who came up was either black, Latino, female, one was gay.
	They tend to be the most passionate.
	And a reason for it is, like we've talked about this, they go against the grain.
	And with Montreal, essentially you use the term red pill.
	Again, they will go through their entire lives.
	It's a culture of leisure, not a culture of productivity at all.
	It's why everything just gets a little more worn down.
	We think it's quaint.
	We think there's more history.
	We think there's more culture.
	It's just that their old crap looks just like their new crap.
	That's the thing.
	Everything is old crap.
	I sat and I spoke with the lady at our hotel in Old Port, Montreal.
	And she was from France.
	And I asked her what the tax is.
	I think it's 16% in Quebec, if I'm not mistaken.
	When I left, it was lower because of Stephen Harper, and now it's back up.
	She said, yeah, you know, it's kind of expensive, but it's not that bad.
	I said, what's your income tax like?
	And it was somewhere around 52%, something like that.
	I said, do you know in Texas there's no state tax?
	There's no state tax at all?
	She's like, oh, really?
	When you buy something?
	I said, no, no, there's no state income tax.
	She said, what?
	I said, there's no state income tax in Texas.
	I have a lot of family in Texas.
	None.
	You mean on your income, like when you get your paycheck?
	Yep.
	None.
	I said, nope.
	And they have a surplus.
	How is that?
	I'm like, how is that?
	How do you think that is?
	And she actually said, I don't know.
	I would think they have, like, bankrupt.
	You know, I hear of the debt.
	I go, yeah, well, think about it.
	People have more money to spend.
	We have nearly non-existent unemployment.
	And there's more disposable income.
	And so actually, the government makes more revenue in taxes when you give people the freedom to choose what they can do with their own dollars.
	She's like, oh, I never think of it like that.
	You know, I want to travel so much, but I never think.
	I have to go to Texas now.
	And that's the thing.
	It is really important for you.
	This is why I say the prism through which you look at the world determines, first off, what is right and wrong.
	Because it's effectively an act of force, 52% income tax, right?
	It's nice that you want things paid for.
	But it's not an actual realistic, it's not an actual legitimate role of government.
	It can only be done through force.
	We've talked about that.
	But people who don't think of these issues, once they start thinking about them, their minds will begin to change.
	That's where you see, you know, we talked about this, the Change My Mind, that segment that went up.
	We were so surprised, and I'm so...
	Happy and proud, not of me, but of the fans who watch this show, that that is edging up on a million plays.
	It was me sitting down for 20 minutes, if you haven't watched it, letting people come up and change my mind.
	It is the opposite.
	It is antithetical to cable news.
	It is the opposite of sound bites.
	It is, speak, and let me hear you out, and let me get you to question your own position.
	And people start changing their own minds.
	And it's very different from when we had a debate this week.
	Constein came on from TechCrunch, where he came on hostile and he was ready to defend his worldview because this is what I've got.
	I've got to be glued to this.
	I've got to stick with this because my paycheck is beholden to it.
	But those people changed my mind.
	They've never thought of these issues, these kids in college.
	They've never thought of where a right comes from.
	People in Quebec have never thought about the fact that when you give people more freedom, you can actually make more taxes and revenue.
	People in Quebec have never thought of the fact that it is absolutely, here is something, morally reprehensible for Canada to rely on the United States for its national defense.
	When we talk about North Korea and if they could have a missile hit United States mainland, well, before that, Canada.
	Does Canada have a defense system?
	No.
	Who do they rely on?
	The United States.
	So they literally rely on...
	They can have socialized healthcare at 52% income tax and paying for 70% of the drugs that you want, because they, which is morally completely repugnant, depend on the United States for their national security, and no one thinks of it.
	No one thinks of it.
	I was talking with people in Canada saying, hey...
	What do you think would change if you had to pay for your own national security?
	This person said, well, you know, I can't believe the United States spends so much on its military and they can't spend on health care.
	It's just, it's absurd.
	I said, what do you think would happen if there were to be some kind of a war to break out with Canada?
	So what do you mean?
	I said, let's just use North Korea as an example.
	I know they're not really a threat, but if they're talking about sending a missile over, right, let's get past Guam.
	How would Canada defend itself?
	Well, the United States are our allies.
	Right.
	So do you think it might change your country's economic outlook if you had to pay for your own sh** when it comes to protecting yourself?
	Can you see how maybe it irks people in the United States?
	They think we're arrogant?
	No.
	I think it is so arrogant.
	And that is the one thing I could not get past.
	Bernie Sanders, the arrogance of wanting to take my stuff.
	I was looking at him, just seething over this on the plane, then landing in Canada, in a land of people who think they're entitled to take your stuff.
	And if you say, hold on, hold on, hold on, don't take my stuff, they call the United States arrogant.
	And you don't need to feel guilty about that.
	We get people all the time, well, you know, I travel abroad and I'm afraid because they don't like Americans.
	You know why they don't like Americans?
	Because they rely on us for everything.
	For medical innovations, for national security.
	And then we say, you know what?
	Hey, maybe it's time to start paying for your own stuff.
	Maybe it's time for you to start innovating.
	Maybe it's time for you to start benefiting us, the rest of the world, instead of us entirely subsidizing you.
	Maybe it's time to defend yourself.
	Can you believe how arrogant the Americans are?
	Yeah, in that sense, I am so proud of American arrogance because I've seen the arrogance from Quebec and Montreal.
	I hadn't been there in a decade.
	I went back and it broke my heart because socialism creates an entirely soulless people.
	It's so Sucks the life out of you.
	And I saw broken shells of men and women who I used to know.
	And you can just see it beats them down.
	The United States is the only place where that doesn't happen anymore.
	There still is some hope.
	Thank God for it.
	Guess that's arrogant.
	See you next week.

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